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Title: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: sub1 on January 05, 2006, 09:24:18 AM
All this talk about hardest is simply the strong drink of the sick and dying. Hardest at best will not be able to cope with the rigors of international football. He is slow and a defensive liability. Had he been playing at least in div 1 in england I would say that he would be an asset but barely playing at home in the PFL and then hoping that his "natural" ability will pull him through is wishful thinking at best, utter stupidity at worst.

This guy has not even been a regular in domestic competition, in caribbean competition but will, through some perceived genius, light up the world stage. Yeah Right!!

What T&T need right now is a leftsided, defensive midfielder. Hardest does not fit that mold. The only player i would like to see coming into the team is Jlloyd Samuel. A comitted and fit Dwarika i would not refuse. Otherwise leave your Zamoras, Hardests and all the suddenly brilliant but flawed geniuses right where they are, out in the cold looking in.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: futbolfan on January 05, 2006, 09:32:11 AM
oh gosh look what yuh gone and do now....if trinifinite could only reach tru de monitor he would choke yuh rite now  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Trini _2026 on January 05, 2006, 09:41:11 AM
dont let infinite hear you sub1

and  sub1what yuh think about bertille getting a share in the spoils o our qualification.  i bet you flip when you read this




It was also announced that Bertille St Clair, former national senior team football coach and David Nakhid, an assistant, were among members of the Soca Warriors technical staff in line to share in the US$1,461,421.38 bonus to be distributed by the T&T Football Federation.

St Clair was axed as team coach after only three matches in the final round of the World Cup campaign and replaced by Dutch-man Leo Beenhakker while Nakhid was dismissed as an assistant coach just ahead of T&T’s World Cup play-off matches with Bahrain.

But despite not being part of the team when it actually qualified both men will be among those to benefit after playing a part in the successful campaign.








Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: sub1 on January 05, 2006, 09:51:20 AM
dont let infinite hear you sub1

and  sub1what yuh think about bertille getting a share in the spoils o our qualification.  i bet you flip when you read this

It was also announced that Bertille St Clair, former national senior team football coach and David Nakhid, an assistant, were among members of the Soca Warriors technical staff in line to share in the US$1,461,421.38 bonus to be distributed by the T&T Football Federation.

St Clair was axed as team coach after only three matches in the final round of the World Cup campaign and replaced by Dutch-man Leo Beenhakker while Nakhid was dismissed as an assistant coach just ahead of T&T’s World Cup play-off matches with Bahrain.

But despite not being part of the team when it actually qualified both men will be among those to benefit after playing a part in the successful campaign.


It is all part of JW's plan to eke out as much money from the govt as possible. Bertille and those in the coaching staff who almost saw us get knocked out should not be rewarded for incompetence. It means that less money would be available for the true champions, the players.

But Jack wants to appear magnanimous. Let him be and let this be Bertille's rolex.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: samo on January 05, 2006, 10:04:28 AM
I have no, problem with BSC getting money. The man try he best, but unfortunately his best was not good enough.
He did not go out their to pursoely lose. Give de man something nah... Now I ent saying he should get 10000.00US, but a little something .
Sub I agree with what you said, but if they show up o practice and impress Beenie enough to warrant a spot on his team, then I cool with whatever Beenie decide
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Jayerson on January 05, 2006, 10:19:35 AM
Everyone that contributed to the effort should be rewarded. Obviously every cannot get the same size piece of the pie. But BSC, Tiger and Eve and a host of other players helped in the effort. Who knows, we may need some of them again.

I agree that I can't envision Hardest making the squad. It's not just about getting fit all of a sudden and being blessed with talent, international football and more so WC football is much more complicated.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: football king on January 05, 2006, 10:22:54 AM
Come to think of itI really don't see a good reason for giving BSC any money.  The man was paid when he had the job and was then fired.  Does a terminated employee get a bonus for the good performance that occured after he left?  I say no

1 pt out of 9 and get fired.  He gets a bonus for that.

regarding the points about hardest, pick the best men but he facing an uphill battle. wish him luck though.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: College on January 05, 2006, 10:35:39 AM
Good point footballking, you beat me to it. This is the type of attitute that killing T&T, why should we give the ex-coach a BONUS???  Do we understand what the word bonus means?? why are we rewarding failure and bad performances??? We have to get away from the " he was dey in the beginning so leh ee give him a lil something" attitude... only in T&T.

I know some men on this forum will say , "oh, he contribute to the cause" but the fact is, anybody who ever represented T&T contributed to where the team is today, so where do you draw the line.  BSC had the squad playing like a savanna side, it ws embarassing to watch at times.. but yet we reward him?? wasn't he getting a salary??? what kind of message we sending??? steeeeups!!!
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: sub1 on January 05, 2006, 10:37:33 AM
Come to think of itI really don't see a good reason for giving BSC any money.  The man was paid when he had the job and was then fired.  Does a terminated employee get a bonus for the good performance that occured after he left?  I say no

1 pt out of 9 and get fired.  He gets a bonus for that.

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Exactly!!!!
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Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: MickeyRat on January 05, 2006, 10:39:08 AM
I agree that I can't envision Hardest making the squad. It's not just about getting fit all of a sudden and being blessed with talent, international football and more so WC football is much more complicated.
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Thank you! 
Trinis feel we need to continue to re-cycle players. 
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: College on January 05, 2006, 10:43:02 AM
That is just common sense.  Mickey Rat, did you play in the Sunshine Snacks tournament in '84 with Jablotheh when both teams u-16 adn u-14 reaach the finals???
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: MickeyRat on January 05, 2006, 10:44:23 AM
Yuh know it!  Me, larry, Sheldon, Charlo.  Bomb squad.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: dcs on January 05, 2006, 10:46:00 AM
1 pt out of 9 and get fired.  He gets a bonus for that.

At the very leasy he got the team to the HEX.
He also got Dwight to come back and he got some discipline back into the team that was sorely missing for a long time(at least I think so).  Plus he had the respect of most of the players even if they knew he had shortcomings.....and some old school ideas that rub some the wrong way. 
Ask the players if he should be included and I'm sure the majority would say YES and that is good enough for me.

As for Jemmot....I hope whatever hard work he doing now continue afterward regardless of the WC.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: College on January 05, 2006, 10:46:06 AM
yeah i know.. sadly i was on the bench...for the whole tourney.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: MickeyRat on January 05, 2006, 10:48:45 AM
yeah i know.. sadly i was on the bench...for the whole tourney.

College:

Did you attend St. Georges when Oliver (Andrew) was there?
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: College on January 05, 2006, 10:51:17 AM
yeah, but i was a couple years ahead of him... good player. he lil borther was ok too.

aye, but don't let he original mickey rat see you using he name.. lol
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: MickeyRat on January 05, 2006, 10:54:47 AM
yeah, but i was a couple years ahead of him... good player. he lil borther was ok too.

aye, but don't let he original mickey rat see you using he name.. lol

Yeah, ah done get some pressure fuh that one.  But say wha.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Jayerson on January 05, 2006, 10:58:14 AM
Good point footballking, you beat me to it. This is the type of attitute that killing T&T, why should we give the ex-coach a BONUS???  Do we understand what the word bonus means?? why are we rewarding failure and bad performances??? We have to get away from the " he was dey in the beginning so leh ee give him a lil something" attitude... only in T&T.

I know some men on this forum will say , "oh, he contribute to the cause" but the fact is, anybody who ever represented T&T contributed to where the team is today, so where do you draw the line.  BSC had the squad playing like a savanna side, it ws embarassing to watch at times.. but yet we reward him?? wasn't he getting a salary??? what kind of message we sending??? steeeeups!!!

Good point fellahs, I didn't look at it this way.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: sub1 on January 05, 2006, 11:01:49 AM
1 pt out of 9 and get fired.  He gets a bonus for that.


As for Jemmot....I hope whatever hard work he doing now continue afterward regardless of the WC.


At the very leasy he got the team to the HEX.
Looking at our opposition that should not be mentioned. It is something that ANY coach or administrator would have been able to achieve.

He also got Dwight to come back and he got some discipline back into the team that was sorely missing for a long time(at least I think so).  
Yes but we were still losing and looking shitty with Dwight. Dwight's real value never showed until Beenie took over. If we needed the type of discipline he brought any army cpl would have done.

Plus he had the respect of most of the players even if they knew he had shortcomings.....and some old school ideas that rub some the wrong way.That is a myth. The majority of good players did not want him there. The majority thought he was clueless. Derrick King may have respected him as a coach and Nakhid but see if you can figure out why.


Ask the players if he should be included and I'm sure the majority would say YES and that is good enough for me.

I will bet you otherwise. The majority would say no.

Be that as it may Bertille will get his money. Just another chapter in the milking of T&T.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: College on January 05, 2006, 11:06:00 AM
thanks.. sub1
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: TrinInfinite on January 05, 2006, 11:10:04 AM
All this talk about hardest is simply the strong drink of the sick and dying. Hardest at best will not be able to cope with the rigors of international football. He is slow and a defensive liability. Had he been playing at least in div 1 in england I would say that he would be an asset but barely playing at home in the PFL and then hoping that his "natural" ability will pull him through is wishful thinking at best, utter stupidity at worst.

This guy has not even been a regular in domestic competition, in caribbean competition but will, through some perceived genius, light up the world stage. Yeah Right!!

What T&T need right now is a leftsided, defensive midfielder. Hardest does not fit that mold. The only player i would like to see coming into the team is Jlloyd Samuel. A comitted and fit Dwarika i would not refuse. Otherwise leave your Zamoras, Hardests and all the suddenly brilliant but flawed geniuses right where they are, out in the cold looking in.

hardest slow and cant make it in int'l ball, lemme ask u a question, can u run for 90 minutes, can u even trap and ball or pass it?

U KNOW BETTER THAN LATAS? ARE U A COACH, HAVE U EVER MADE A NAT'L TEAM? ARE U CONNECTED 2 DE TEAM?

LEMME TELL YUH SOMETHING SUB, DE REASON WHY U HAVE DAT NAME IZ BC U NEVA START IN YUH LIFE, DIZ WHY YUH NAME SUB..

SECONDLY, WHEN HARDEST MAKE THE TEAM, AH WANT FLEX 2 PUT HIS PIC ON DE SITE AND I WANT U 2 PUT IT UP AS UR PIC AND IN DE HEADING U SHOULD WRITE, DE NEXT ZIDANE

AFTER THAT U SHOUDLNT COMMENT ABOUT FOOTBALL AGAIN

VIBES IT UP
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: football king on January 05, 2006, 11:16:00 AM
paying bonus to a coach u fred makes no sense at all.  fire him then turn around and reward him.  
i can't understand that.  Why cause without the 1 pt he got we would not be in the WC?


I am not attacking the man, just hard to see how we reward a fired person.
Shoot i should go back 8yrs to my old employer and ask for all bonuses given since they cut me loose.

YOu would think it have some clause in his contract stating what happens if fired as far as compensation,bonus, what is forfeited etc.

with TTFF one never knows.  probably did not even have a formal contract
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: ballfever on January 05, 2006, 11:24:08 AM
oh gosh look what yuh gone and do now....if trinifinite could only reach tru de monitor he would choke yuh rite now :rotfl: :rotfl:
yuh feel sub ain't know wha he do? :devil:  :devil: :devil: dah is wah yuh call a real trini chain up, an as expected infinite go bite.....buh all dat in forum life eh?  :beermug:
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: TrinInfinite on January 05, 2006, 11:30:54 AM
i adding 2 de fiah  :devil: sub1 doh know wat he talkin about, he juss out tuh raise meh blood pressuh, but he will regret he ever say dat when hardest get selected
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: dcs on January 05, 2006, 11:37:08 AM
BSC was not hired to take us to the WC.
He did what he was hired to do......carry the team as far as he could during hard times when there was little to no support for the team.

He did his part as did players like McFarlane who played for us before the Dwight and Latas decided to come back on the scene.
He lost his place just like Eve lost his place to people better suited.

The impression I got was that most had some respect for the man.....unlike the reaction Najar got.


Too many times we use someone, discard them then forget about them. 

He deserve to be included.
Is the very least they could do.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Jumbie on January 05, 2006, 12:09:29 PM
All this talk about hardest is simply the strong drink of the sick and dying. Hardest at best will not be able to cope with the rigors of international football. He is slow and a defensive liability. Had he been playing at least in div 1 in england I would say that he would be an asset but barely playing at home in the PFL and then hoping that his "natural" ability will pull him through is wishful thinking at best, utter stupidity at worst.

This guy has not even been a regular in domestic competition, in caribbean competition but will, through some perceived genius, light up the world stage. Yeah Right!!

What T&T need right now is a leftsided, defensive midfielder. Hardest does not fit that mold. The only player i would like to see coming into the team is Jlloyd Samuel. A comitted and fit Dwarika i would not refuse. Otherwise leave your Zamoras, Hardests and all the suddenly brilliant but flawed geniuses right where they are, out in the cold looking in.

what was you true intention wid dat post sub? To break up a marriage? To cause woman to commit suicide?

Is ah good thing ah acted fast... as we speak Trininfinite Mrs Hardest is on gramaxone watch. It seems that since there was rumors that Mr.Hardest was trying to make the team Trininfinite Mrs Hardest went house shopping in Richmond Hill Toronto, expecting a widfall from bonuses from possible new contracts. It was also public knowledge that Trininfinite Mrs Hardest was seen visiting a local fertility clinic here in Toronto.. a close source to Trininfinite Mrs Hardest revealed to her that Trininfinite Mrs Hardest was trying deperately to get pregnant to..as she put it..hook the f**ka before he get rich and famous.

Trininfinite Mrs Hardest, if this post gets to you..please note that all of us here know the sacrifice you made by standing behind Hardest during the dark days..you could have easily gone into the arms of RF, Bim Blast or the host of other;s that have come from afar calling on you. You deserve some time in the spotlight, next to hardest. Continue showing support for your man and good things will cum your way.


Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: futbolfan on January 05, 2006, 12:23:38 PM
All this talk about hardest is simply the strong drink of the sick and dying. Hardest at best will not be able to cope with the rigors of international football. He is slow and a defensive liability. Had he been playing at least in div 1 in england I would say that he would be an asset but barely playing at home in the PFL and then hoping that his "natural" ability will pull him through is wishful thinking at best, utter stupidity at worst.

This guy has not even been a regular in domestic competition, in caribbean competition but will, through some perceived genius, light up the world stage. Yeah Right!!

What T&T need right now is a leftsided, defensive midfielder. Hardest does not fit that mold. The only player i would like to see coming into the team is Jlloyd Samuel. A comitted and fit Dwarika i would not refuse. Otherwise leave your Zamoras, Hardests and all the suddenly brilliant but flawed geniuses right where they are, out in the cold looking in.

what was you true intention wid dat post sub? To break up a marriage? To cause woman to commit suicide?

Is ah good thing ah acted fast... as we speak Trininfinite Mrs Hardest is on gramaxone watch. It seems that since there was rumors that Mr.Hardest was trying to make the team Trininfinite Mrs Hardest went house shopping in Richmond Hill Toronto, expecting a widfall from bonuses from possible new contracts. It was also public knowledge that Trininfinite Mrs Hardest was seen visiting a local fertility clinic here in Toronto.. a close source to Trininfinite Mrs Hardest revealed to her that Trininfinite Mrs Hardest was trying deperately to get pregnant to..as she put it..hook the f**ka before he get rich and famous.

Trininfinite Mrs Hardest, if this post gets to you..please note that all of us here know the sacrifice you made by standing behind Hardest during the dark days..you could have easily gone into the arms of RF, Bim Blast or the host of other;s that have come from afar calling on you. You deserve some time in the spotlight, next to hardest. Continue showing support for your man and good things will cum your way.




and to make matters worse he feel  he gettin horn...since  hardest and dwarika spendin so much time together now. :-X :-X :beermug:
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Jefferz on January 05, 2006, 12:37:21 PM
TriniInfinite

as i have given you the title "Mrs.Hardest" i believe you must take the responsiblility of putting sub1 in he f**kin place.

(is one ting if yuh say de man indisiplin buh if yuh denieing his talent then you are an idiot or you have simply never seen him play)

sub1 musta bin de gyul hardest horn wit TI 

Jumbie ah like dis  "and to make matters worse he feel  he gettin horn...since  hardest and dwarika spendin so much time together now."  however its bad enough da de man only have time for given men STICK and playing wit BALLS.

Leave Mrs. Hardest alone!
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: RGarcia on January 05, 2006, 01:23:09 PM
Sub yuh sound like yuh know something bout football. nobody doh have to be coach to know anything about foootball it have men who neva kick a ball either and knows about the game.HARDEST or KERWYN JEMMOT is not going to make that team fuh de best a bench but who on teh field that they will drop fuh him or put in deh place?
                                                                                Respect due!
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: TrinInfinite on January 05, 2006, 01:26:50 PM
i jealous, i am a supporter of dwarika, but if it came down 2 who making the team instead of the other, i picking hardest bc he will bring more to the overall team, allyuh like talk, but when ah give it back, allyuh does bawl and cry like a fat woman who gettin she pie taken away from she, alyuh hush nah and wait and see de results

vibes it up
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Big Magician on January 05, 2006, 01:35:01 PM
you keep going hardest.....doh take dem on son...god bless
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: ballfever on January 05, 2006, 01:46:25 PM
All this talk about hardest is simply the strong drink of the sick and dying. Hardest at best will not be able to cope with the rigors of international football. He is slow and a defensive liability. Had he been playing at least in div 1 in england I would say that he would be an asset but barely playing at home in the PFL and then hoping that his "natural" ability will pull him through is wishful thinking at best, utter stupidity at worst.

This guy has not even been a regular in domestic competition, in caribbean competition but will, through some perceived genius, light up the world stage. Yeah Right!!

What T&T need right now is a leftsided, defensive midfielder. Hardest does not fit that mold. The only player i would like to see coming into the team is Jlloyd Samuel. A comitted and fit Dwarika i would not refuse. Otherwise leave your Zamoras, Hardests and all the suddenly brilliant but flawed geniuses right where they are, out in the cold looking in.

what was you true intention wid dat post sub? To break up a marriage? To cause woman to commit suicide?

Is ah good thing ah acted fast... as we speak Trininfinite Mrs Hardest is on gramaxone watch. It seems that since there was rumors that Mr.Hardest was trying to make the team Trininfinite Mrs Hardest went house shopping in Richmond Hill Toronto, expecting a widfall from bonuses from possible new contracts. It was also public knowledge that Trininfinite Mrs Hardest was seen visiting a local fertility clinic here in Toronto.. a close source to Trininfinite Mrs Hardest revealed to her that Trininfinite Mrs Hardest was trying deperately to get pregnant to..as she put it..hook the f**ka before he get rich and famous.

Trininfinite Mrs Hardest, if this post gets to you..please note that all of us here know the sacrifice you made by standing behind Hardest during the dark days..you could have easily gone into the arms of RF, Bim Blast or the host of other;s that have come from afar calling on you. You deserve some time in the spotlight, next to hardest. Continue showing support for your man and good things will cum your way.




and to make matters worse he feel he gettin horn...since hardest and dwarika spendin so much time together now. :-X :-X :beermug:
more chain up!!! :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: duscam on January 05, 2006, 02:20:01 PM
come infintie let we bet some money nah.....100 US hardest not making the final 16 !!!!! i put my bet dey..respond if you dare...
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Jumbie on January 05, 2006, 02:23:09 PM
BTW.. hardest, dougla, etc.. whoever trying to make the team, best of luck..if me mum could make the team, the least we could do is support we home born sons..
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: dombasil on January 05, 2006, 03:12:32 PM
Yuh know dis is de tiredest topic I ever see. I doh think he will make it because of his lack of quality competion and training over the last year. But he is going to get his chance so why don't we wait and see. Now is the time for him to walk the talk. For him and TNT I wish him the best but I doubt it. He have de talent Nakhid and Latas both say that.But talent ent all.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: behind-de-bridge on January 05, 2006, 04:20:10 PM
Everyone that contributed to the effort should be rewarded. Obviously every cannot get the same size piece of the pie. But BSC, Tiger and Eve and a host of other players helped in the effort. Who knows, we may need some of them again.

I agree that I can't envision Hardest making the squad. It's not just about getting fit all of a sudden and being blessed with talent, international football and more so WC football is much more complicated.

Why we like mediocrasy so! I do not know BSC personally, but as the coach of the national side, the man was the worse! I disagree with paying him any bonus. The man should be told he was a categoric failure! Why we fraid to let people know when dey cyah make de grade. What next:
-Award Abu Bakr the Trinity Cross?
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: dcs on January 05, 2006, 04:38:19 PM

If this pay-out was based on performance maybe but that is not the criteria.
Is whoever was directly part of the effort whether they was shit or not.

Maybe the amount will be based on some performance measure but most likely it will be based on number of games at the different stages.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: vb on January 05, 2006, 04:53:46 PM
Leave no stone unturned...give Hardest a run..if he make he make..if not...not.

Bennie will know after watching him train with the boys.

VB
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: truetrini on January 05, 2006, 06:09:51 PM
Everyone that contributed to the effort should be rewarded. Obviously every cannot get the same size piece of the pie. But BSC, Tiger and Eve and a host of other players helped in the effort. Who knows, we may need some of them again.

I agree that I can't envision Hardest making the squad. It's not just about getting fit all of a sudden and being blessed with talent, international football and more so WC football is much more complicated.

You shouldn't agree with nutten!  Yuh feel dat de UNC Books and private organizations like de TTFF doh have to make dey books public..or yuh change yuh mind?
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: cm103 on January 05, 2006, 06:33:14 PM
For all the men saying BSC should get a bonus for d one point...lemme ask yuh this

If it was a foreign coach that did the same thing in BSC place we would still be having this conversation?
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Jefferz on January 05, 2006, 07:08:13 PM
well CMC das a good point dred but yuh also have to concider it was BSC who convinced Yorke having bin the biggest influence in his youth, Yorke then with BSC convinced Latapy to come back to play for T&T and considering that they were both undoubtfully pivotal factors in our qualification.

So in that case dont we really owe him...

I dont believe he'd be such a good international coach. Maybe it's the modernization of football. I'm not too sure, but he certainly did help, just not in the way that Beenhakker could.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: palos on January 05, 2006, 07:09:19 PM
For all the men saying BSC should get a bonus for d one point...lemme ask yuh this

If it was a foreign coach that did the same thing in BSC place we would still be having this conversation?

Great question.  Interesting to see the responses.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: kounty on January 05, 2006, 07:25:40 PM
For all the men saying BSC should get a bonus for d one point...lemme ask yuh this

If it was a foreign coach that did the same thing in BSC place we would still be having this conversation?

Great question. Interesting to see the responses.

I say yes, just based on the fact that we make it to the final round.  You cyah go to no world cup if you don't make it to the final round of the hex right?  How many times in our illustrious career we make it to the final round? Take Jamaica for example.  To me getting us that far is an achievement, you know, I jjus feel Bertille didn't have the extra umph to push us to the next level; yet he worthy of praise and thanks for his contribution.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Baygo Boy on January 05, 2006, 07:31:16 PM
For all the men saying BSC should get a bonus for d one point...lemme ask yuh this

If it was a foreign coach that did the same thing in BSC place we would still be having this conversation?

BSC is a Trinbagonian - I believe in rewarding meh own. When a local coach take the job to coach our national team they bring a level of patriotism with them, when the foreign coach take the job - they only bringing a suitcase and a return ticket. Beenie is saying - I am taking T&T to the WC - A local coach would have said - a taking meh country to the WC - big difference. BSC, and some of the players that got us to the final 6 should be rewarded, if only as a token. Remember, the journey/battle to the 2006 WC did not beginning with Beenie's arrival, we had Warriors in the trenches when he arrived.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: truetrini on January 05, 2006, 07:56:50 PM
TrinInfinite tell dem tuh leave yuh alone!

Sing dis song loud and clear..let dem know yuh standing by yuh man HArdest!

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You'll have bad times
And he'll have good times
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But if you love him you'll forgive him
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And if you love him
Oh be proud of him
'Cause after all he's just a man
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Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
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Stand by your man
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Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Trini _2026 on January 05, 2006, 07:58:37 PM
For all the men saying BSC should get a bonus for d one point...lemme ask yuh this

If it was a foreign coach that did the same thing in BSC place we would still be having this conversation?

BSC is a Trinbagonian - I believe in rewarding meh own. When a local coach take the job to coach our national team they bring a level of patriotism with them, when the foreign coach take the job - they only bringing a suitcase and a return ticket. Beenie is saying - I am taking T&T to the WC - A local coach would have said - a taking meh country to the WC - big difference. BSC, and some of the players that got us to the final 6 should be rewarded, if only as a token. Remember, the journey/battle to the 2006 WC did not beginning with Beenie's arrival, we had Warriors in the trenches when he arrived.

Boss ah primary school coach could have taken us to the final hex and tnt  would have had a better showing in that semifinal round. we was playing like a small goal side under BSC

aye like yuh foget st vincent nearly buss we ass in the final game with out dey star striker rodney jack.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Jefferz on January 05, 2006, 08:03:07 PM
TrinInfinite tell dem tuh leave yuh alone!

Sing dis song loud and clear..let dem know yuh standing by yuh man HArdest!

Artist: Wynette, Tammy Lyrics
Song: Stand by Your Man Lyrics
http://www.mp3.com/tracks/1248362/dl_streams.html


Sometimes its hard to be a woman
Giving all your love to just one man
You'll have bad times
And he'll have good times
Doing things that you don't understand
But if you love him you'll forgive him
Even though he's hard to understand
And if you love him
Oh be proud of him
'Cause after all he's just a man
Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
When nights are cold and lonely
Stand by your man
And tell the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man
Stand by your man
And show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man
aaaaahhhhhhhh TT boy.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :devil: :devil: :devil: :rotfl: :devil: :rotfl: :devil: :rotfl: :devil: :devil:

MRS.HARDEST!!

RUN DE SHOW!

the battle begins:
 
:cursing: :shameonyou:  :arguing: :bringiton: :challenge: :duel: :flamethrower:  :busshead:


then after the battle is won Mr.Hardest calls the Mrs back intime to right a ANOTHER (#18 so far)
flattering hopeful article about his world cup chances.

ah must say hardest have de Mrs like  :whip:


I  :salute: thee TriniInfinite
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: dcs on January 05, 2006, 08:23:27 PM
For all the men saying BSC should get a bonus for d one point...lemme ask yuh this

If it was a foreign coach that did the same thing in BSC place we would still be having this conversation?

Great question.  Interesting to see the responses.

I doubt Theo De Jong getting any bonus.  As a matter of fact I don't know if Leo or Whim getting any bonus either.
If it was Fervier he would probably get it considering he likely to be around and working in T&T for years now.
Contract foreign coaches get their pay and dat is dat......they getting paid QUITE ENOUGH.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Baygo Boy on January 05, 2006, 08:26:22 PM
For all the men saying BSC should get a bonus for d one point...lemme ask yuh this

If it was a foreign coach that did the same thing in BSC place we would still be having this conversation?

BSC is a Trinbagonian - I believe in rewarding meh own. When a local coach take the job to coach our national team they bring a level of patriotism with them, when the foreign coach take the job - they only bringing a suitcase and a return ticket. Beenie is saying - I am taking T&T to the WC - A local coach would have said - a taking meh country to the WC - big difference. BSC, and some of the players that got us to the final 6 should be rewarded, if only as a token. Remember, the journey/battle to the 2006 WC did not beginning with Beenie's arrival, we had Warriors in the trenches when he arrived.

Boss ah primary school coach could have taken us to the final hex and tnt  would have had a better showing in that semifinal round. we was playing like a small goal side under BSC

aye like yuh foget st vincent nearly buss we ass in the final game with out dey star striker rodney jack.

A primary school coach didn't - BSC did. The implcation here is that Beenie turned things around - I would like to believe that the experience of Russell, Dwight, Dog, Stern and others help, coupled with OUR team's desire to advance allowed our players to give that extra %. From what I have heard - beenie is not a very inspirational coach - if what I am hearing is true, then we have to give credit to the players for stepping up.

The fact that St. Vincent almost beat us is nothing - the English FA has proven that on any given day, any team can win - the question is - "who wants it the most." If you looked at the away game (Bahrain) you would have noticed that we weren't doing anything different (technically), we were playing with heart - like true "socawarriors" ( something that beenie will never understand).
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: Savannah boy on January 06, 2006, 01:51:01 AM
SUB1 eh no waggonist...he been here long, long time...de man could say wha de hell he want!!!  Man doh have to agree with him.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: cm103 on January 06, 2006, 01:58:28 AM
I not saying BSC doh deserve something for his past efforts with the team, especially getting dem into the semis in d Gold Cup. Money is not the answer though, especially for this world cup when he didn't live up to the expectations.

BSC ent running he football school for free and the fact he discovered and helped develop Yorke is part of his job. If yuh want to ride that point then Gally should get a bligh also for picking dem men to sweat for d strike squad and subsequently getting noticed.

BSC did his job and was paid for it. Honor d man in some other way for his contributions in general with the 1974 and 1989 teams. Reward the players who helped us get this far in d campaign.

D TTFF always saying dey broke and now that we getting a lil money dey want to give everybody a piece. Save some and put it towards that 2014 plan.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: dombasil on January 06, 2006, 06:33:38 AM
BayGo
What you mean that it is implyed that Beenie turned around the team. It een implyed. Is true. We actually had structure and a plan in both attack and defense. Something that was  not apparent with BSC.You saw the evolution of the possesion game from when they could only possess the ball but go nowhere to where we could maintain possesion going forward. And all this talk about inspirationalcoach. The man do he stuff on the practice field and does not feel that he have to tell the fellas to remember the Alamo. Yes, the fellas stepped up because in the end is the players who play but to imply that Beenie did not have a big hand in the turnaround is to be very insular and taking the tobago homeboy tabanca to far.
Title: Re: Hardest would NOT make it!!!
Post by: samo on January 06, 2006, 08:53:24 AM
To be devils advocate, then let me ask this.
If a player playe real sh!te and score an own goal. Should he be compensated also???
BSC did not go out and deliberatley sabotage T&T. The man try he best but he was not good enough, his shortcomings were so obvious that Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles woulda see it. His reward is not for his failure, but for taking us as far we did. It is not about how de team was playing sh!t under him, yes maybe  a SSFL coach could have taken us their, but they did not, he did not ask for the job but was appointed.. If you want to leave anybody out of the Bonus scheme it should be the TTFF.
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