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Title: Managers & Coaches Thread !
Post by: Bally on March 14, 2005, 11:59:36 AM
Dundee United part company with manager McCall
 
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By Kenny MacDonald

GLASGOW, March 14 (Reuters) - Dundee United manager Ian McCall left the club by mutual consent on Monday after they slumped to the bottom of the Scottish Premier League.


Assistant Gordon Chisholm has been installed as caretaker manager, United said in a statement.

United lost 3-0 at Kilmarnock on Saturday and have only 22 points from 29 games, although they have reached the semi-finals of the Scottish Cup where they play Hibernian.

Chairman Eddie Thompson said: "I find this an extremely sad day as Ian McCall was well respected at this club.

"I and my board wish him well for the future. We will now draw up a list of suitable managerial candidates, including Gordon Chisholm, for consideration.

"Meanwhile, Gordon Chisholm will take charge of the team in the interim and will continue to be assisted by (coach) Tony Docherty.

"I am sure all United fans will get behind him and the players during this difficult period."

McCall, 40, played for Queen's Park, Dunfermline, Rangers, Bradford, Dundee, Falkirk and Clydebank. He moved into management with the now-defunct Clydebank before taking charge at Morton.

He then became boss at first division Falkirk before being appointed Dundee United manager on February 1, 2003.



Updated on Monday
 
Title: Re: Dundee United part company with manager McCall
Post by: Tallman on March 14, 2005, 12:17:49 PM
Dog looking like ah prophet now. Remember when he say dat God tell him not tuh join Dundee United. Now look at dem. Dey in de cellar position in de SPL and dey jes leggo dey manager.
Title: Managers Thread !
Post by: Sam on February 02, 2006, 08:09:32 AM
Would you say Jose Mourinho is the best manager in England knowing that the fact that he has an all star team (Chelsea), for example, Leo Beenhakker took an average team (T&T) and in six months he made them qualify for the World Cup. Who do you think will lead England if Sven-Goran Eriksson retires best... Beenhakker, Rafael Benitez, Ferguson, Martin Jol, Mark Hughes or Mourinho...
Title: Re: Managers !
Post by: Jumbie on February 02, 2006, 08:29:35 AM
From england I like what Rafael Benitez Martin Jol, Mark Hughes and especially Paul Jewell - promoted team just below the top 4 are doing.
Title: Re: Managers !
Post by: FF on February 02, 2006, 09:39:45 AM
From england I like what Rafael Benitez Martin Jol, Mark Hughes and especially Paul Jewell - promoted team just below the top 4 are doing.

Add Alan Pardew to that mix... West Ham is doing well....

and playing good football as well..... Its no mean feat to beat Arsenal at Highbury... (well maybe not so much nowadays  ;D )
Title: Re: Managers !
Post by: Cantona007 on February 02, 2006, 09:45:53 AM
Add to that list "Psycho" Pearce at Man City who has taken the team forward this year after suffering under people like Keegan. A simple man with a simple style, working with real limitations.
Title: Re: Managers !
Post by: spideybuff on February 02, 2006, 10:09:00 AM
I agree with the rating the other managers but I think Mourinho is the best. This Chelsea side is not that much better than the one under Ranieri...maybe even worse because Jimmy Floyd, Veron and Desailly (+ Crespo) were there together and by name they probably have more rank than Essien, Drogba and Carvalho. Plus, Ranieri couldn't bring out the performances from Lampard and Joe Cole like Mourinho has.
Apart from this, he take Porto to back to back european championships (UEFA + Champions league) without any huge stars and he broke records for points in winning the portuguese championship and the premier league last year. It probably had managers in the past with teams with as many stars in the past but didn't do these feats so I have to rate ''the special one''.

This Chelsea team is no better than Lazio's star studded team of yesteryear, barca's dream team of the early 90's, Milan during that period and Real Madrid's galacticos..but they not winning like Chelsea is, even if they entertained more.
Title: Re: Managers !
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 02, 2006, 10:23:31 AM
Mourinho has to get his props cause he did the job in Portugal with players that were not high profile.  My list of top managers in the PFL:  Benitez (best tactician of the lot), Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho, Jol.  Of the up and coming, Pardew, Jewell, Stuart Pierce, and Mark Hughes show great potential, but they need to show that they can do it longterm before they can get such a label.
Title: Re: Managers !
Post by: spideybuff on February 02, 2006, 10:28:02 AM
Honestly, allyuh men rate Fergie as a manager? I think he did a good job with grooming players through the years to play his style but I don't think he can adjust according to game situations and other teams. it took him about 7 years to adapt ManU to cope with European teams. I think if we took him out of the ManU bubble and put him at any other high profile team he would be a huge failure. But he was given time to grow into the role and establish his personality and style on ManU, a luxury that younger managers entering the game now don't have anymore.

From 86- 91 he was ManU manager and they didn't win a trophy...can u imagine that happening in today's game?
Title: Re: Managers !
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 02, 2006, 10:31:59 AM
Honestly, allyuh men rate Fergie as a manager? I think he did a good job with grooming players through the years to play his style but I don't think he can adjust according to game situations and other teams. it took him about 7 years to adapt ManU to cope with European teams. I think if we took him out of the ManU bubble and put him at any other high profile team he would be a huge failure. But he was given time to grow into the role and establish his personality and style on ManU, a luxury that younger managers entering the game now don't have anymore.

From 86- 91 he was ManU manager and they didn't win a trophy...can u imagine that happening in today's game?

Total jibberish.  That is why teams kie Newcastle and REal Madrid in the situation they are in today.  They want instant gratification, and it does not always happen like that.  If you decided to develop players and reap the rewards, it takes time, and the board room members and fans need to understand this.
Title: Re: Managers !
Post by: spideybuff on February 02, 2006, 10:35:27 AM
I agree totally with that managers need time...which is why Mourinho so good, because he start from day 1. Even Benitez ,who I agree is the best tactician in the league, and Wenger took a while before the teams started to perform under them.
Title: Re: Managers !
Post by: KND2 on February 02, 2006, 10:46:56 AM
Bennie man did good for TnT but lets keep things in perspective.

We were always in the running for 4th even before Bennie cause it was basically US Gautemala and Panama battling for that position.

If we did finish 3rd under bennie by beating the likes of Mexico away, USA, or CR then I will give him total props.

But the games we won under bennie we have won in the past.

Panama we always should have beat.
We beat Mexico at home already
and Guatemala win at home has already been done.

If under bennie we did beat the US or mexico away or CR away then he could be rated as a world class manager.

Lets keep results in perspective.
Title: Re: Managers !
Post by: palos on February 02, 2006, 10:54:58 AM
De Wigan manager, fuh what de player personnel he have, and what he accomplish so far (top 10 in de league, carling cup final etc) to me show he belong among de best DIS SEASON.

Bolton's Allardyce is a nex decent manager too given what he has brought Bolton from
Title: Paraguay soccer manager to travel to Argentina to watch matches
Post by: E-man on April 17, 2006, 06:41:30 PM
Paraguay soccer manager to travel to Argentina to watch matches
(People's Daily Online)


07:57, April 18, 2006       

Anibal Ruiz, the manager of Paraguay's national squad, will travel to Argentina this weekend, to watch games where key Paraguayan players are due to feature in the Argentina league, local media said on Monday.

On Saturday, he will watch Estudiantes de la Plata and Olimpo, to watch defenders Juan Daniel Caceres and Jorge Nunez. Also on Saturday Newell's Old Boys will play San Lorenzo, where one team might employ goal-keeper Justo Villar and mid-fielder Diego Gavilan, while the other could deploy forward Jose Saturnino Cardoso.

On Sunday he will go to the Monumental Stadium to watch River Plate versus Argentinos Junniors, where Julio Cesar Caceres, who plays for the Plate "millionaires" might play.

Ruiz has said that he will publish his shortlist of 23 footballers on May 15, the deadline day set by FIFA.

"We have a base, but there is no reason to hurry. We have to respect the timetable, and although we have everything set, we won't publish until the day," he said.

On Thursday, he will visit Montevideo, Uruguay, to receive the best South American manager award for 2005, sponsored by Uruguay's El Pais daily.

After this weekend's visit to Argentina, he hopes to visit Brazil to watch Carlos Gamarra, who plays for Palmeiras; Julio Manzur, for Santos; and Cesar Ramirez who plays for Flamengo.

Paraguay is part of Group B in the World Cup, which begins in Germany in June. Its rivals in the Group are Trinidad and Tobago, England and Sweden.

Paraguay's first game is on June 10 against England in Frankfurt. On June 15 it meets Sweden in Berlin and on June 20 it will meet Trinidad and Tobago in Kaiserlauten.

Source: Xinhua
Title: Reading manager has no problem with signing int'l players
Post by: andre samuel on July 16, 2006, 06:30:26 PM
it would be nice if more managers adopted this approach!!

www.soccer365.com

Reading manager Steve Coppell would be happy to see his players rack up plenty of air miles if it means they are also making their mark on the Premiership.

The Madejski Stadium has become a more cosmopolitan venue now Coppell has signed South Korea international Seol Ki-Hyeon and Sam Sodje, who is on the fringes of the Nigeria squad.

Coppell insisted: "It is an issue but if you sign good players then international recognition will come. We had a couple away in the World Cup, which was pleasing for us, a proud moment for the club."

He added: "Bobby Convey represented America and was the first Reading player to appear in the World Cup final stages.

"If Sam goes on to represent his country we would be delighted for him. We obviously wouldn't be happy with a month away at the African Nations Cup and those kind of things but we have to accept it is part of the baggage. It is what happens these days.

"He will be trying to get into a very competitive team. Nigeria are a top outfit so if he does get into the side he will have to have been playing really well."

Club-versus-country friction are becoming more and more commonplace in the modern game, especially if Premiership places are at stake.

Sodje, who cost £350,000 from Brentford, admitted he was still an international novice but declared he was hungry for more caps.

He said: "I have one cap. It was good to play for my country and hopefully I can get more.

"The game was last year against Romania but please don't ask me the score!"

Title: englishmen Help... manager or coach?
Post by: freakazoid on September 04, 2006, 05:03:50 PM
i was reading an article about roy keane recently where he  was saying he could have either been a coach or a manager. now as far as my limited knowledge went in my americanized world manager and coach can be used interchangeably . but aparently in britain its different can som1 please xplain whats d difference between  d two
Title: Re: englishmen Help... manager or coach?
Post by: palos on September 04, 2006, 05:14:11 PM
i was reading an article about roy keane recently where he  was saying he could have either been a coach or a manager. now as far as my limited knowledge went in my americanized world manager and coach can be used interchangeably . but aparently in britain its different can som1 please xplain whats d difference between  d two

I'll try my best...

Example - Tottenham Hotspur

Chris Houghton - Coach
Martin Jol - Manager 

Example - T&T senior men's National team - 05/06

Wim Rijsbergen - Coach  (Assistant Coach)
Leo Beenhakker - Manager  (Head Coach)

De Coach in de terminology u referrin to is de man who does carry out de actual trainin sessions.  Prepare drills, exercises, sessions etc.

De Manager usin dat terminology is de man who does oversee de team.  Responsible for tactics, team selection, who to sell, who to buy, etc with input from the Coach among others.

Daz my understanding anyway.
Title: Re: englishmen Help... manager or coach?
Post by: freakazoid on September 04, 2006, 05:26:25 PM
so in essence its similar to a coach and a trainer relationship
Title: Re: englishmen Help... manager or coach?
Post by: JDB on September 04, 2006, 05:32:26 PM
That is about right but it gets complicated when you move to continental clubs.

The traditional English manager really is a coach who does everything, transfers, training, contracts, recruiting. The job is so big now that the Manager doesn't do but manage all these tasks and assistant managers, coaches etc have more responsibility.

In Europe though they usually have a coach who handles the first team and a manager who handles transfers, contracts, scouting, yout team development in a big big way. This manager is sometimes called a technical director or director of football.

Chelsea and Spurs now have this kind of model Chelsea has Arnesen who they took from Spurs and Spurs had Pleat before they hired Arnesen (don't know who is doing the work now). West ham also had Brooking as a director of football a couple of years ago.

United, Arsenal and most of the other English clubs just have a single manager handle everything football related with a prominent businessman in the mix (Dein, Gill etc.).

Keane was probably referring to the fact that with coaching he will mainly work with players on the fireld but with management he has to deal with a lot more political situations that require patience and diplomacy.
Title: Re: englishmen Help... manager or coach?
Post by: Cantona007 on September 04, 2006, 11:41:46 PM
i was reading an article about roy keane recently where he  was saying he could have either been a coach or a manager. now as far as my limited knowledge went in my americanized world manager and coach can be used interchangeably . but aparently in britain its different can som1 please xplain whats d difference between  d two

I'll try my best...

Example - Tottenham Hotspur

Chris Houghton - Coach
Martin Jol - Manager 

Example - T&T senior men's National team - 05/06

Wim Rijsbergen - Coach  (Assistant Coach)
Leo Beenhakker - Manager  (Head Coach)

De Coach in de terminology u referrin to is de man who does carry out de actual trainin sessions.  Prepare drills, exercises, sessions etc.

De Manager usin dat terminology is de man who does oversee de team.  Responsible for tactics, team selection, who to sell, who to buy, etc with input from the Coach among others.

Daz my understanding anyway.

correctamundo...
Title: Re: englishmen Help... manager or coach?
Post by: PantherX on September 05, 2006, 10:57:27 AM
The Coach conducts training sessions, determines team tactics, picks the team on game day and other football aspects relating directly to the team the Manager on the other hand also handles off-field activities such player transfers and in the lower leagues negotiates kit deals

A classic example on an English Football Manager is Alex Ferguson.

In Europe there is a Director of Football who handles transfer matters and other off the field activities leaving the Coach to focus on-field footballing matters.  This style has been adopted by Spurs who have a Director of Football Damien Comolli and a Head Coach Martin Jol.


Title: Re: englishmen Help... manager or coach?
Post by: Cantona007 on September 05, 2006, 11:42:12 AM
The Coach conducts training sessions, determines team tactics, picks the team on game day and other football aspects relating directly to the team the Manager on the other hand also handles off-field activities such player transfers and in the lower leagues negotiates kit deals

A classic example on an English Football Manager is Alex Ferguson.

In Europe there is a Director of Football who handles transfer matters and other off the field activities leaving the Coach to focus on-field footballing matters.  This style has been adopted by Spurs who have a Director of Football Damien Comolli and a Head Coach Martin Jol.



Not to be overly pedantic, but  believe you me, Fergie picks the team on "game day" after input from the coaching staff and formation/tactical considerations. There is another aspect to the running of the club, and that is the financial side. You mentioned in the lower leages that the manager does kit deals... interesting.... at the bigger clubs there is a whole commercial organization that handles that sort of thing.  :beermug:
Title: Re: englishmen Help... manager or coach?
Post by: PantherX on September 05, 2006, 08:05:43 PM
I'm sure that he gets input from others but he is present at the training sessions so he would have first hand knowledge of his players.

The bigger clubs definitely have a large support system around their managers but the final say(and responsiblity) rests with him.
Title: Levein appointed Dundee United manager
Post by: Bally on October 30, 2006, 05:08:08 PM
Levein appointed Dundee United manager
 
 
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GLASGOW, Oct 30 (Reuters) - Former Hearts and Leicester City coach Craig Levein was appointed manager of Scottish Premier League strugglers Dundee United on Monday.

Levein signed a 2 1/2 year contract and replaces player manager Craig Brewster who was axed on Sunday following a dismal time in charge with just two wins from United's last 28 league matches.

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"Craig Levein not only comes highly recommended in every category of the criteria set by the board, but has a proven track record and an excellent reputation for man management," Dundee United chairman Eddie Thompson said on the club's Web site.

"He also has extensive contacts in England and abroad and these will be important as we look to strengthen the squad in the next transfer window," Thompson added.

Levein, a former Scotland defender, had been manager of third division Raith Rovers on a non-contract basis after he was sacked by Leicester last season.

United are bottom of the standings with eight points from 12 matches and Levein is their sixth manager in the past four years.

"I fully appreciate the scale of the task before me but I am confident that I can help Dundee United to climb the league," Levein said.

"I am under no illusions that there will be an easy quick fix, but I would not have taken the job if I did not believe I could make a difference nor would I have considered coming to Tannadice if I did not believe that there was a determination to succeed within the club."



Updated on Monday, Oct 30, 2006 11:39 am EST

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Title: Wrexham sack manager
Post by: boss on January 11, 2007, 10:38:18 AM
Smith and Russell depart Wrexham 
bbc.co.uk

League Two side Wrexham have sacked manager Denis Smith and his assistant Kevin Russell.

The club said in a statement on their website: "Nobody has wanted Denis and Kevin to succeed more than the Directors of the club.

"However, we feel we have no option at this time but to make a change to allow us time to turn things around."

Brian Carey has been installed to take over first-team duties as Wrexham aim to pull clear of the relegation zone.

The statement went on to say: "This is a club that is making good progress off the field. We are extremely ambitious and want and need to be in a position to challenge in the league.

"We hope that a dawn of a new era will bring just that."
Title: Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill has resigned with immediate effect
Post by: Red Mango on August 09, 2010, 09:32:56 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/aston_villa/8898993.stm

Martin O'Neill has resigned as Aston Villa manager with immediate effect.

Kevin MacDonald has been appointed caretaker boss while no reason has been given for O'Neill's decision to leave after four years in the job.

MacDonald will prepare the side for their Premier League opener against West Ham on Saturday.

O'Neill, appointed in 2006, said: "I have enjoyed my time at Aston Villa immensely. It's obviously a wrench to be leaving such a magnificent club."
Title: Re: Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill has resigned with immediate effect
Post by: Red Mango on August 09, 2010, 09:38:16 AM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11677_6303051,00.html

Martin O'Neill has stunned Aston Villa by resigning as manager with immediate effect ahead of the new Premier League season.

Reports emerged earlier on Monday that the former Leicester and Celtic boss was set to quit Villa Park over frustration at the club's transfer policy and the expected sale of James Milner to Manchester City.

Villa have now confirmed the news and that Kevin MacDonald, reserve team manager, has assumed the role of caretaker boss ahead of the start of the new Premier League season against West Ham on Saturday.

O'Neill told Villa's official website: "I have enjoyed my time at Aston Villa immensely.

"It's obviously a wrench to be leaving such a magnificent club. I would like to pay tribute to the Villa players, my coaching staff and the Villa supporters for all the support and encouragement they have given both the club and me personally during my time as manager.
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"I wish them all the best for the future. I will obviously be assisting the club in the immediate short-term with regard to the handover of my duties."

Paul Faulkner, chief executive of Aston Villa, said: "The club would like to thank Martin for the great work he has done at Aston Villa over the past four years.

"He has helped to establish the club in the upper echelons of the Premier League, has taken us to Wembley and we have also qualified for European competition for the past three seasons under his management. We wish him the best in the future."

An additional statement from Villa read: "No further comment will be made by either Aston Villa or Martin O'Neill until further notice."

It was speculated at the end of last season that O'Neill was set to resign because Villa did not match his ambition to force a place into the top four of the Premier League.

The earlier sale of Gareth Barry to City and a reluctance from club owner Randy Lerner has also been rumoured to have played a part in O'Neill's decision.
Title: Re: Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill has resigned with immediate effect
Post by: royal on August 09, 2010, 10:55:23 AM
good manager,worked with little at both Leicester and Aston Villa and turn those clubs around
Title: Re: Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill has resigned with immediate effect
Post by: Red Mango on August 09, 2010, 02:10:45 PM
Stunned to see him go... Celtic beckons...
Title: Re: Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill has resigned with immediate effect
Post by: davidephraim on August 09, 2010, 07:57:44 PM
Big Manager, wont be without a club for long.  Martin O'neill once said about Rangers. It only has 2 players I would consider buying from rangers and that is First and foremost Russell Latapy and Amoruso. NO one else. Not Claudio Reyna, Not Arteta, Barry Ferguson none other than de Magician and Big Amo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill has resigned with immediate effect
Post by: spideybuff on August 10, 2010, 05:52:35 AM
Liverpool probably pissed cause they were trying to get him...


I wonder if Yorkie throw in his hat yet?

Villa in trouble now, but whoever he go to will become a good team. I not sure which decent club available though. I hope he stay in the EPL and not back to Celtic, it too easy up north for him.

Of course, i wouldn't mind if Newcastle get him but I want to give the black man a chance...he only buying black players too :-)
Title: Re: Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill has resigned with immediate effect
Post by: Bourbon on August 15, 2010, 08:06:19 PM
 Guess who want to take de wuk  (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=814660&sec=england&cc=3888)









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Diego Maradona has set his sights on a sensational switch to Aston Villa in the wake of Martin O'Neill's departure.



Maradona left his post as Argentina coach after the World Cup and his European representative Walter Soriano claims the 49-year-old is now targeting a job in England.

Argentina were thrashed by Germany in the quarter final of the tournament, which led to the termination of Maradona's contract, but he could be set for a swift return to management.

Maradona's reputation in England will be forever tarnished by his 'Hand of God' goal against the Three Lions at the 1986 World Cup, but Soriano insists his client would be open to an approach from Villa owner Randy Lerner.

He told the Sunday Mercury: "I think Diego would be very open to the idea of coming to England and managing Aston Villa. He is very attracted to English football and the way of life in your country and I know he would be very willing to move there.

"He loves the English countryside and your respect for privacy, so he would be very happy there, especially at a big club like Aston Villa. If the owner Randy Lerner wants to make him a serious offer, I am sure he would get a very positive response.

"Diego is currently talking with a number of clubs in Europe - including another one in England - about a management role and is looking at his options carefully.''

Lerner is seeking a new permanent manager at Villa Park after Martin O'Neill quit just days before the start of the new Premier League season. Kevin MacDonald was in caretaker charge as Villa began the new campaign with a convincing 3-0 win against West Ham on Saturday.
Title: Re: Managers Thread !
Post by: Flex on December 18, 2018, 04:43:18 AM
Manchester United sack Mourinho.
ESPN - Rob Dawson & Mark Ogden


Manchester United have sacked Jose Mourinho after Saturday's defeat at Liverpool left the club 11 points adrift of the Premier League top four.

The 55-year-old departs Old Trafford after two-and-a-half years with United sixth in the table, 19 points off the top, with one win in the league since Nov. 3..

United's players and staff were given the day off on Monday following the 3-1 loss at Anfield. Sources have told ESPN FC that Mourinho was informed of the decision on Tuesday morning. Executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward and the board, according to sources, decided to act after becoming concerned at a run of results that has left United facing a battle to qualify for next season's Champions League.

A caretaker manager will be appointed until the end of the current campaign with a permanent manager put in place ahead of next season. Sources have revealed that the caretaker is likely to be an outside appointment -- although sources say he already has links with United with former players Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and Laurent Blanc discussed internally in recent weeks.

Assistant Michael Carrick and academy chief Nicky Butt will take over in the immediate interim.

Sources have told ESPN FC that Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino is the preferred choice as permanent boss, although there is an acceptance that Spurs chairman Daniel Levy will fight to keep a coach who has guided the club to three consecutive top-three finishes.

United are next in action against Cardiff on Saturday.

A statement issued on Tuesday morning read: "Manchester United announces that manager Jose Mourinho has left the club with immediate effect. The club would like to thank Jose for his work during his time at Manchester United and to wish him success in the future.

"A new caretaker manager will be appointed until the end of the current season, while the club conducts a thorough recruitment process for a new, full-time manager."

Mourinho took charge of United in the summer of 2016 following the departure of Louis van Gaal, winning the Europa League and EFL Cup in his first season.

But although United finished second in the Premier League last season, they were a distant 19 points behind champions Manchester City, lost to Chelsea in the FA Cup final and were knocked out by Sevilla in the round of 16 of the Champions League.

Mourinho signed an extension to his contract in January that could have kept him at Old Trafford until 2021 but there were always growing concerns at board level that no one should feel "they are bigger than the club."

He has cut an increasingly frustrated figure -- particularly after the failure to sign a centre-back in the summer.

Mourinho has had high-profile spats with key players, most notably Paul Pogba, throughout 2018 culminating with the France international being stripped of the vice-captaincy in September. Pogba has not been in the United team for the last four Premier League fixtures.

Title: Re: Managers & Coaches Thread !
Post by: asylumseeker on December 18, 2018, 06:03:33 AM
I would like to see Spurs commit to its ambition. Pochettino to United is to be viewed as subtracting from that ambition.

Since United is the supposed flagship of English football, I dare them to appoint an indigenous manager.
Title: Re: Managers & Coaches Thread !
Post by: Tallman on December 18, 2018, 06:16:14 AM
Since United is the supposed flagship of English football, I dare them to appoint an indigenous manager.

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or

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Title: Re: Managers & Coaches Thread !
Post by: Deeks on December 18, 2018, 08:05:56 AM
Tallman, winning means everything in today's football. ManU maybe the "flagship", but that ship in drydock. It needs some major overhaul, especially in the midfield.
Title: Re: Managers & Coaches Thread !
Post by: Tallman on December 18, 2018, 10:15:59 AM
Tallman, winning means everything in today's football. ManU maybe the "flagship", but that ship in drydock. It needs some major overhaul, especially in the midfield.

Midfield and defence.
Title: Re: Managers & Coaches Thread !
Post by: lefty on December 18, 2018, 01:29:00 PM
Tallman, winning means everything in today's football. ManU maybe the "flagship", but that ship in drydock. It needs some major overhaul, especially in the midfield.

winning may mean everything.....but how you win is now considered to be of greater importance.....Jose was always on thin ice at united with he nega-football.....as ah chelsea fan I only gained greater access to EPL round about 2008 or 2009 so my fondest chelsea memories will always be Ancellotti....still consider how dat end to be ah travesty....but back to mou even I didn' like d negaball I remember when dey hire him back, dat title winning season was weird we started out beating teams left right and center playing good football den round about december or january he start to lock up shop on 1-0 and 2-0 with 65 minutes to go and all kinda shit.... me and flickin killa even exchange choice words over my complaining about dat approach, tink he was ah strong mou supporter.....

mih point is man like mou and conte not really suited to "sexy" football so if yuh desirous of dat or dat is yuh culture stay way from dem, Manu learn dat d hard way and then too, mou seems to be in some kinda midlife crisis or some shit, he was always sulky and grumpy looking in dat second chelsea stint....remember d episode with d doctor and dat eh improve from what I seeing at man u

but anyway mou and man u was never a good fit
Title: Re: Managers & Coaches Thread !
Post by: soccerman on December 18, 2018, 06:46:44 PM
Zidane should be the coach Man U hires permenantly after this season.
Title: Re: Managers & Coaches Thread !
Post by: rotatopoti3 on December 19, 2018, 01:38:02 AM
My Christmas wish.

OGS & Giggs in the Interim.

See ManU relegated to Division 1.

Both Sacked and Roy Keane to manage.

Bring in Yorke to co manage.and play.in Division 1

Get them back into the Premier League after 3 seasons.

Yorke new manager
Title: Re: Managers & Coaches Thread !
Post by: spideybuff on December 19, 2018, 06:25:20 AM
Tallman, winning means everything in today's football. ManU maybe the "flagship", but that ship in drydock. It needs some major overhaul, especially in the midfield.

Midfield and defence.

Pogba, Herrera, Fred, Perreria, Matic, Lingard, Mata for 3 spots...and I am sure they have one or two youths who could make the side if Fergie was in charge. That midfield nowhere close to being bad.

Jones and Smalling were international defenders before Mourinho and Bailly is a good player.Dalot, Shaw are excellent wingbacks and Fosu-Menshah would have been ahead of Trent Alexander if his development was allowed to continue after Van Gaal gave him his debut.

Young and Valencia could cover for both midfield and defence when experience needed.

A new manager have sufficient tools to work with. Mourinho was just making good players play poor with his attitude since pre-season that they not good enough
Title: Re: Managers & Coaches Thread !
Post by: Tallman on December 19, 2018, 06:45:22 AM
Tallman, winning means everything in today's football. ManU maybe the "flagship", but that ship in drydock. It needs some major overhaul, especially in the midfield.

Midfield and defence.

Pogba, Herrera, Fred, Perreria, Matic, Lingard, Mata for 3 spots...and I am sure they have one or two youths who could make the side if Fergie was in charge. That midfield nowhere close to being bad.

Jones and Smalling were international defenders before Mourinho and Bailly is a good player.Dalot, Shaw are excellent wingbacks and Fosu-Menshah would have been ahead of Trent Alexander if his development was allowed to continue after Van Gaal gave him his debut.

Young and Valencia could cover for both midfield and defence when experience needed.

A new manager have sufficient tools to work with. Mourinho was just making good players play poor with his attitude since pre-season that they not good enough

Matic is slow no ass and ah find he has become a liability. Too many instances of opposing players coming from behind and teefing de ball.

I doh know if Pogba could be de lynchpin unless he have similar caliber of players around.

Smalling has been on the decline for the last two years.

Just because Jones is/was an international player means he should be. I never rate him, since he was with Blackburn.

Bailly have potential, but he hasn't made the necessary progress.

I liked Fosu-Mensah. Dalot looks promising. Shaw need to watch his weight.

Valencia and Young are converted wingbacks and it shows. Plus their deliveries from the wing are sub-par, and dey getting on in age.

The side is unbalanced and slow (probably de slowest in de top six).

No leadership in defence, no leadership in midfield, no leadership on de field at all.

For all Mourinho's faults, de players collectively have to raise their hands as well.
Title: Re: Managers & Coaches Thread !
Post by: spideybuff on December 19, 2018, 12:57:26 PM
No leadership. I totally agree with that. Yorke say Keane call him right away cause he needed "characters" in the dressing room. ManU only have Pogba who is the wrong kind of character. If a Roy Keane was next to them in midfield, you would see them all pulling their weight though.