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Sports => Football => Topic started by: big dawg on March 15, 2006, 05:33:56 PM

Title: Mexico
Post by: big dawg on March 15, 2006, 05:33:56 PM
Some Critics has expressed that Mexico just MIGHT be the "dark horse" to win everything..

What do you think.. especially since they sent their under 21 team to Port-Of Spain..

Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: R45 on March 15, 2006, 05:36:51 PM
I highly doubt it

And it wasn't an U-21 side, a mixed B team.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: Toppa on March 15, 2006, 05:37:40 PM
 ??? ??? ??? They sent their Under-21 team to Portof Spain to play TnT that time? This is this first I'm hearing of that.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: Auburn Trini on March 15, 2006, 05:46:05 PM
That was no under 21 team breds.... The coach was tryin new players....I wouldn't even go as far as to call it the B team... thay had good players like Franco  (score recently versus Ghana) who the coach was lookin at...
They were missin a few big names like Marques and Borgetti but it was far from a u-21 side in Port of Spain..

Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: FF on March 15, 2006, 05:47:45 PM
That was no under 21 team breds.... The coach was tryin new players....I wouldn't even go as far as to call it the B team... thay had good players like Franco  (score recently versus Ghana) who the coach was lookin at...
They were missin a few big names like Marques and Borgetti but it was far from a u-21 side in Port of Spain..



Marques, Borgetti, Torrado and de keeper.. tha was it...
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: breezers on March 15, 2006, 05:52:29 PM
Ah believe dey go do well cuz dey have ah good team..buh ah wouldn't go as far an say de go win de World Cup.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: freakazoid on March 15, 2006, 06:00:32 PM
they did beat brazil in the confed cup
 once some luck go with them and they stay away from teams with big tall guys whose game is air ball ( square and head) they could go fa,r even win it
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: Auburn Trini on March 15, 2006, 06:02:33 PM
Mexico is ah solid team but lackin that little creativity yuh need to win out the tournament...
I think they should make it out of the group but would find it hard commin up against Argentina, Holland or even Ivory Coast

This is one of the best Mexico teams we've seen for a while especially when you look at how much depth they have but to win out the tournament ... that tough
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: Trinimassive on March 15, 2006, 06:26:31 PM
How yuh go say we play they U21 team ???  In other words yuh saying we lucky they ent send down they full team.

What yuh really saying ???

Yuh jokin ent?
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on March 15, 2006, 06:57:49 PM
WHEY so that same so called U-21 team that Mexico send to POS, is the same team that put 5 on Guatemala about five days earlier ent?
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: SHOTTA on March 15, 2006, 07:06:03 PM
propaganda thread

lookin fo trouble from d first line

mexico aint winning jack

talk done shotta
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: skins on March 15, 2006, 07:14:56 PM
I lost one this one. What winning the world cup have to do with Mexico sending an under 21 team to Port of Spain. By the way Mexico have a solid side and they capable of beating any team on a given day.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: Jah Gol on March 15, 2006, 07:18:30 PM
Mexico did not send a B team. In any case many of the "new" players are currently starters in the friendly games. So obviously they weren't "pick up side" players

With respect to the question of Mexico winning it all I think it is highly unlikely. As a team, Mexico is solid in attack and defense. From an individual level I don't' think they have a single player who can lift the performance of the team. This is very important in these types of tournaments. I would welcome the surprise though.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: morvant on March 15, 2006, 08:23:45 PM
they might win ah coin toss not the WC
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: g on March 15, 2006, 09:36:53 PM
A dark horse probably and they have a decent chance cause when you look at it this will be their second successive summer playing in germany with basically the same squad so their chance is as good as any. They not short on experience, we need to have somebody from CONCACAF to start challenging consistently  for the cup to give more creditability to our federation and i agree, they could compete with the best on any given day. Remember part of success in the world up is the ability to go on a streak getting good results. Its the reason why every WC there are one or two teams that were never expected to reach the quarters and semis every tournament. In my opinion is a combination of quality of squad and hitting form at the right time.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: ZionYouth on March 15, 2006, 09:46:33 PM
Italy....Italy is de country tuh look for..dey go surprise ah lot ah people..
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: marcel on March 16, 2006, 03:20:59 AM

italy played quite well the last few games
but the opposition was experimentating (holland,germany)
if you relate that games to the real thing the outcome might be different.
for example,i dont think holland put a 19 year old boy as centre defender against argentina,what they did against italy.
but italy is playing quite well
even a sort of positive,while they were quite boring before.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: Blue on March 16, 2006, 05:26:07 AM
Physically, Mexico are way too small to win a World Cup. Harsh, but true.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: Jayerson on March 16, 2006, 08:34:30 AM
Physically, Mexico are way too small to win a World Cup. Harsh, but true.

Now I used to say that before but their players are taller and bigger than previously. And the naturalised Mexicans from Brazil & Argentina that the coach bringing in have physical presence. Borgetti is big and Marquez can handle his stories, Zihno also is pretty big. They may struggle against some of the more physical teams.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: kicker on March 16, 2006, 08:36:30 AM
On their day Mexico can play with anyone because they move the ball very very imaginatively......so they will always create sufficient scoring chances.

Defensively I don't know if they are strong enough.......

U-21 team to P.O.S..........not sure about that......
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: Observer on March 16, 2006, 09:37:19 AM
Mexicans are impressive footballers with excellent technique, good work rate and imaginative play. I will agree they lack the physical element that may be required but they are improving in that area as well. Where they may fall short in the WC is that they depend on 1-2 players for their goals and that may hurt them in the long run.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 16, 2006, 11:02:58 AM
as i said b4 and will say again NO CONCACAF TEAM can win de wc right now.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: morvant on March 16, 2006, 11:13:33 AM
costa rica iz the next option
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: Big Magician on March 16, 2006, 11:19:10 AM
should i say something to big dog on this crap....u-21....should i ??....or save it ???....whatch breds
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: kounty on March 16, 2006, 11:21:14 AM
as i said b4 and will say again NO CONCACAF TEAM can win de wc right now.
I have a feeling about MExico this year - their toughset challenge till the finals look like a possible Italy and dey beat them last WC with a team not as strong and deep as this one.
Also, one of the few teams that has any sort of consistent success against Brazil.
nice betting odds too http://www.gambling911.com/2006-World-Cup-Betting-Odds.html
good for a $20.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 16, 2006, 11:35:59 AM
as i said b4 and will say again NO CONCACAF TEAM can win de wc right now.
I have a feeling about MExico this year - their toughset challenge till the finals look like a possible Italy and dey beat them last WC with a team not as strong and deep as this one.
Also, one of the few teams that has any sort of consistent success against Brazil.
nice betting odds too http://www.gambling911.com/2006-World-Cup-Betting-Odds.html
good for a $20.
bounty yuh better off bettin on de warriors to reach 2nd rd.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: 1989 on March 16, 2006, 11:50:45 AM
as i said b4 and will say again NO CONCACAF TEAM can win de wc right now.

...Except USA who have a way of upsetting the flow of things.  Just think last world cup they almost reach the semis, last year they won the Gold Cup, they beat T&T twice  :devil:, they walked over Norway, they are now #1 in Concacaf.... Their confidence is really high right now and that could translate into Czech getting licks followed by a freak win over Brazil in the second round...
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: Green Beret on March 16, 2006, 11:55:07 AM
Sure they could win... provided they don't have to play the US to do it.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: 100% Barataria on March 16, 2006, 12:03:16 PM
How old is Fonseca?
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: kounty on March 16, 2006, 12:32:41 PM
as i said b4 and will say again NO CONCACAF TEAM can win de wc right now.
I have a feeling about MExico this year - their toughset challenge till the finals look like a possible Italy and dey beat them last WC with a team not as strong and deep as this one.
Also, one of the few teams that has any sort of consistent success against Brazil.
nice betting odds too http://www.gambling911.com/2006-World-Cup-Betting-Odds.html
good for a $20.
bounty yuh better off bettin on de warriors to reach 2nd rd.

show me where to place that bet, and I puttin dat too.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: Storeboy on March 16, 2006, 12:40:08 PM
When they beat our depleted side 7:0, it was our Mexico vT&T.  We beat them in POS, it was Mexico v T&T.  Forget this U21 stupidness.  We need to beat them whenever we play them; no excuses.  They are very good, technically gifted, good attacking instincts, and make few errors.  In one game they could surprise anybody.  To win a series of knockout games down the stretch after the first round, it might be difficult. But as they say it is always 11 v 11, no timeouts.  I would be happy to see any CONCACAF team win but I think we still behind Europe and S. America.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: 100% Barataria on March 16, 2006, 12:50:09 PM
True talk Storeboy.....
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 16, 2006, 04:49:08 PM
as i said b4 and will say again NO CONCACAF TEAM can win de wc right now.

...Except USA who have a way of upsetting the flow of things.  Just think last world cup they almost reach the semis, last year they won the Gold Cup, they beat T&T twice  :devil:, they walked over Norway, they are now #1 in Concacaf.... Their confidence is really high right now and that could translate into Czech getting licks followed by a freak win over Brazil in the second round...
yuh better wipe dat dribble from yuh mouth cause yuh dreamin.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: #4 on March 17, 2006, 07:57:00 AM
Mexico may not win it all, but they have a good chance of going into the semis and then possibly the finals. People forget- no team has seen a full strength side from Mexico since the USA played against them Easter Sunday at Azteca, and Mexico has been playing without possibly their best finisher, since Blanco had that falling out with their coach, Ricardo LaVolpe. If the two reconcile, you will see a complete squad, because Bravo lacks the experience and mind for finishing that Blanco has.

As for their players that are playing in the friendlies right now and were playing in the late qualifying stages, those are all rising stars in the Meican League who will be playing a key part in future qualifying- so look for them to go all the way in 2010. With Ochoa in goal, Marquez and a more experienced Bravo (and possibly) Dos Santos leading the attack, and Marquez holding it down on D, that will be an excellent team, thats my word.
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: andre samuel on March 17, 2006, 09:03:56 AM
Physically, Mexico are way too small to win a World Cup. Harsh, but true.

I dont quite agree!!

I beieve they can match up with those bigger players cause they have been doing that for years. 

Big team rough up tactics dont really help u win games, it just prevents u from losing, and in some cases, losing badly. 

Mexico and Spain are outside bets that just might suprise the world, along with Trinidad and Tobago.

ah love it!!

I am ah soca warrior, ah say win or lose i am a fighter!!
Title: Re: Mexico
Post by: Pasdah Beatz on March 17, 2006, 10:17:21 AM
Physically, Mexico are way too small to win a World Cup. Harsh, but true.

I dont quite agree!!

I beieve they can match up with those bigger players cause they have been doing that for years. 

Big team rough up tactics dont really help u win games, it just prevents u from losing, and in some cases, losing badly. 

Mexico and Spain are outside bets that just might suprise the world, along with Trinidad and Tobago.

ah love it!!

I am ah soca warrior, ah say win or lose i am a fighter!!

Very true Samuel
But i will go further tuh say in this day football could swing any way the underdog or de Superpower
Just keep supposing till alyuh see Trinbago in de Final!!!

As A. Samuel does say... ah love it


fat boi out
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