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Title: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: Bally on May 13, 2005, 02:50:23 PM
 
Adu selected to national team roster
 
May 12, 2005
BLAINE, Minn. (AP) -- Teenage sensation Freddy Adu of D.C. United was among 24 players selected Thursday for the U.S. Under-20 national team that will face Canada on Wednesday.

Coach Sigi Schmid chose eight professional players, seven from MLS teams and one from Europe, and 16 nonprofessionals currently in camp at The Home Depot Center in Carson, Calif.

Adu, at 15 the youngest member of the squad, will be joined by Chad Barrett (Chicago Fire), Hunter Freeman (Colorado Rapids), Eddie Gaven (MetroStars), Will John (Chicago Fire), Danny Szetela (Columbus Crew) and Tim Ward (MetroStars) from the MLS. The lone overseas professional is goalkeeper Quentin Westberg, who plays for ESTAC Troyes in the French second division.

The match will be a tuneup for the Americans, who will compete next month in the FIFA World Youth Championship in the Netherlands. They are in Group D with Argentina, Germany and Egypt.

``This match against Canada is crucial to our preparations for the World Youth Championship,'' Schmid said. ``Going up against a quality opponent who has also qualified for Holland will provide us with a measuring stick in terms of how we are progressing and what we will need to work on before our first match of the tournament.''

 
 
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: Brej on May 13, 2005, 04:05:31 PM
oh i thought it was the full nt 
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: SHOTTA on May 13, 2005, 11:33:09 PM
he was always on the u20's he score against we in miami

doh hype up the board for nuttin nah!!!
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: Sam on May 14, 2005, 02:36:01 AM
Bally, like yuh smoke ah piece. ?

Abu has been on the US under 20 team a while now, de man play against we in LA boy.

I believe once he reach adult he will even out, he will not be anything special, de US does hype him up to much, that over age clown.
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: Strip on May 14, 2005, 09:54:11 AM
he eh have no birth certificate - he could be 25 not 15

seriously though, ah go agree with sam, he eh nothing special and he go be decent but no phenom.
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: Bally on May 14, 2005, 12:00:22 PM
Yah boy Sam I post it before reading but even if he is 17 teen and let me note they did a bone marrow test to confirm his age he is special don’t hate because he’s not playing for Trinidad because if he was a trini you guys would off been all over him. They guy is good very good. 
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: maxg on May 14, 2005, 12:18:08 PM
yea, buh he ent US either, so...an he playing for dem....so wha wrong with we, we have equally good youths, always had... buh yuh doesn/t know, improper attitude & future training/development, regressive sport environment, disruptive friends and peers, ignorant and selfish parents,abusive & insulting SUpporters...make every potential pearl, just want to stay in dey shell....thankfully few stepup...
Hurrah all T&T representatives...dah includes you Dwight,please doh mess we up again
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: Bally on May 14, 2005, 12:29:35 PM
I’m not saying we don’t have talented players I’m just saying if Adu was a Trini every body would be hailing the new king the kid is good even if he 17 his vision ball control and his ability to use both feet put him in a different class it don’t matter where he was born or who he plays for the kid is good 
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 14, 2005, 12:40:00 PM
he is good for 15 turning 16 look cornell glen does struggle in the mls this youth is running with big men
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: maxg on May 14, 2005, 12:52:51 PM
I’m not saying we don’t have talented players I’m just saying if Adu was a Trini every body would be hailing the new king the kid is good even if he 17 his vision ball control and his ability to use both feet put him in a different class it don’t matter where he was born or who he plays for the kid is good 

I hear yuh...buh what I saying is ..yes Adu is good (special even)...I saying if we had equal oppurtunities , or more direct, equal attitudes towards development, we could most likely produce a few Adus (or Adues ???)...Our bigest problem is us, we can eventually produce the individuals as training and nuturing awareness improve, and I think it is in that process now...football is a team game though....and that has been our major obstacle...that is where attitudes, and exchanging respect with team-mates, opposing players, coaches, confidants, supporters, a mix, as opposed to an individual, plays what may be as far as we and team sports are concerned , a major role....like some fellas say...dah's is wha make WE we...Our individuality, our uniqueness, our ability to stand alone, and withstand any environment, our ability to achieve as individuals...our society preps us for it....
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: Bally on May 14, 2005, 01:09:46 PM
I know exactly what yah saying I used to talk about  a fella call Josh Belgrave this guy is good but his head get big and he stop training and school so he fall of the raider now he’s a star in St Ann’s and that’s it this guy had a trial with Porto at age 10 but his mom felt he was to young but maybe if he had gone to Portugal he would off gotten the right training to be a professional 
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: Coop's on May 14, 2005, 06:27:28 PM
I have had the oppertunity to see this kid play many times and like some of you had the same feelings about him,but lets forget where he from and all that,lets look at football he has proven himself,he plays in the same league some of our best players are struggleing to play in and does well,if T&T could do what the US does with players we could be able to produce a few guys like that,look back a bit we had guys like Anton,Marcelle etc     
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: davidephraim on May 14, 2005, 08:51:24 PM
i hope yuh aint talkin bout anton corneal. Oh no, the fruit did fall far from de tree. Marcelle is something else though.
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: Coop's on May 15, 2005, 05:30:37 AM
I was more or less refering to youth players getting on senior teams or senior national teams.
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: futbolfan on May 15, 2005, 08:17:10 AM
I know exactly what yah saying I used to talk about  a fella call Josh Belgrave this guy is good but his head get big and he stop training and school so he fall of the raider now he’s a star in St Ann’s and that’s it this guy had a trial with Porto at age 10 but his mom felt he was to young but maybe if he had gone to Portugal he would off gotten the right training to be a professional 

Bally is dis  Josimar Belgrave yuh talkin bout? jus curious.
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: Bally on May 15, 2005, 09:40:39 AM
yes
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: futbolfan on May 15, 2005, 11:46:44 AM
yes

Sorry to hear dat man. ah remember yuh used to talk about his potential alot. hope he could jus get his life in order now.
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: NC on May 15, 2005, 05:30:03 PM
Freddie is being to pushed too fast into a situation that is designed to benefit only the MSL.  If they are not careful he may turn out to be an average player in the next two or three years.  He should of taken the opportunity to go to Europe when it was available, he would have been playing in the reserve league for the next two years and would have been well developed by 17 to enter the full league.  The MSL needed a Hero.
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: dcs on May 15, 2005, 05:33:08 PM

I doh get why Landon Donovon run back to MLS.
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: FF on May 15, 2005, 06:05:34 PM

I doh get why Landon Donovon run back to MLS.


cuz he snake it up in germany....

de last game leverkusen play in the Champions League, they say never a worse game was played by anyone... two different sources to boot... on de other hand Beasley doing ok over dey
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: SHOTTA on May 15, 2005, 09:04:49 PM
LANDUMB LIKE THE SLOW BORING PACE OF MLS HE RECOGNIZE IT GO BE TO MUCH THINKIN IN EVEN SECOND DEVISION EUROPEAN FOOTBALL FOR HIM TO HANDLE
Title: Re: Adu selected to national team roster its happening already
Post by: doc on May 16, 2005, 06:26:19 AM

I doh get why Landon Donovon run back to MLS.


WC qualifications going on, and he needs to be playing regularly.
Title: Freddy Adu
Post by: Marcos on June 21, 2005, 05:30:17 PM
I watched Freddy play in the youth championship today and have seen him in MLS games.
The youngster clearly has skill and is very good for his age. But I think he is just overrated since the US is searhcing for a "Soccer" hero to fit into their marketing machine.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Savannah boy on June 21, 2005, 06:15:16 PM
Too early to tell.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Trini _2026 on June 21, 2005, 06:29:05 PM
What you mean by overated the mls i will say level above our own pro league.How much 16 years old in trinidad can play at the level freddy adu is playing.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: truetrini on June 21, 2005, 06:33:23 PM
How many from Canada can? ::)
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Trinimassive on June 21, 2005, 06:43:11 PM
In my opinion I find it hard to call Adu overrated when he is still a boy playing among men. He holds his own against others. Even if he looks ordinary against the other MLS players...that says a lot about his skills and ability.

Now is the US trying to make him out to be a superstar. YES
Should they....YES.
They should be applauded for that....if only T&T had the foresight to mold young players to be that "star" it would do well for many in the PFL and school leagues. Look at when Jones start playing for the National Team.

The coaches in T&T prefer to bring back fellas like Dwarika and Rougier (no offense to either player) and others who while maybe better than most young players in T&T are NOT going to improve.

A full year with the National Team with the right coach would easily get players like J. Johnson and others to their level and higher.

Yuh think Beasley and Donovan were better than players on the US team when they were first drafted on the National Team....NO but the US prepare for the future well and those players were groomed to be where most of our players aren't because we keep going back to the same "names." over and over.

If Adu continues he would be at "Worst" on the same level as Beasley and Donovan and at Best...who knows ???
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: arrow on June 21, 2005, 06:48:27 PM
One thing is certain, Adu right now is nowhere near as good as Rooney was at 16
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Trini _2026 on June 21, 2005, 06:59:23 PM
yuh want to be smart treutrini and talk carp aye  well dont study who from cananda "can" that talk is about trinidad and tobago dumb azz>:(
Title: Media Hype
Post by: Jah Gol on June 21, 2005, 09:52:43 PM
Adu is good player. I think he will be able to play consistently well enough in Champions League eventually. The MLS is using his ability to generate publicity for the league as product and soccer as a sport. The youth is good but I must say that he is overrated.

If you saw the South american U17 qualifying tournament and Saw Brazil and Uruguay play you be saying Adu Who? There is a youth name Kerlon (a few months older than Adu) who is much better than him. That Brazil team of mainly 16 year olds  and even a 15 year old had at least 3 players at a higher level than Adu. I hope he does well.

PS
The MLS is a shit league. Its superior to the local league because of the greater physical intensity. Their players and not better than ours. They have the benefit of much more foreigners, and you know yankie could organise. The Management of their league is much better
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: NC on June 22, 2005, 06:39:27 AM
Adu is a very talented player.  However, the decision to have him play in the MLS at such an early age will not serve him well and will ultimately lead to him developing into an average player.  He should have taken the offer to go to italy, or sought one out in England, Spain, or  Holland, where he would have gain experience playing reserve football until 17.  He would have developed into a huge star then.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: football king on June 22, 2005, 07:07:48 AM
adu is very damn good the man only 16 ,well claim to be never know with them africans. excellent basics and speed ,body must be still developing.  the mls move was a good one to start he get to actually play and not sit on the pine get homesick and come back home-man didn't wanna leave his family i can't knock that.  he should go to europe now or a year at the max.
could he play u-20 cup again or some fifa rule that says no? US know what they doing with their promising youths unlike tt.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Observer on June 22, 2005, 07:09:06 AM
No one can tell how a young talent will develop. History is full of very talented youth who simply did not make it. While others who were discarded as not good enough came through in the end. Adu is young and talented, he is in a good environment and given the right guidance should blossom. the trick is to be patient with him and not expect him to carry the franchise at 16-17.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Jayerson on June 22, 2005, 07:27:13 AM
Adu is a very talented player.  However, the decision to have him play in the MLS at such an early age will not serve him well and will ultimately lead to him developing into an average player.  He should have taken the offer to go to italy, or sought one out in England, Spain, or  Holland, where he would have gain experience playing reserve football until 17.  He would have developed into a huge star then.

NC, I have to agree with you hands down, ADU has great potential but MLS in a way sees him as a cash cow and marketting gimmick. When Rooney was at Everton, David Moyes gradually brought Rooney into the team after playing with the youth team and in the reserves, Cesc Farbregas was the same with Wenger. Exposing Adu to players much his senior I think will hinder his development and the systems employed by European clubs WRT youth players would have assisted Adu's development. Holland, France, Italy and England also have great youth systems at their clubs where they can nurture raw talent (which Adu has an abundance) into world class players.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Touches on June 22, 2005, 07:47:43 AM
Right now Freddy ent no 16

The Man is 18, but the US cover up the thing good.

Also he good, but he is more hype and marketing than anything else.

MLS keep him as a gimmick to draw crowd.

In Europe and other parts of the world they have better than him.

MlS Stuntin the boy potential.

e.g Look at Fabregas from Arsenal..sign at 16, playing first team at 17 and he rippin the EPL midfield and holding it down for Vieria.

I sure they have plenty of he in France, Spain, Holland, England etc.

Freddy go get exposed just now.............potential that get wasted.

Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Jahyouth on June 22, 2005, 07:53:40 AM
Adu should have gone to Europe two years ago.  Full-stop.

The MLS is doing absolutely nothing for him for two reasons:

1 - As a young player 85% of what you learn on the training ground comes from emulation of the more experienced players.  Who is Adu looking up to on DC United?  He would have been far advanced as a player had he been training day in day out with Real Madrid, Man. Utd., Arsenal, or PSV.

2 - The MLS is a shit league.  No other way to say it.  Apart from being at home in Potomac, MD with his family, I see no real advantage to playing in this league.  A few years abroad in the reserves would have been a better standard of football still, especially as being who he is, he would have played fo the club senior team every now and again.

Not overrated really, but he need to get to Europe quickly before he loses more ground.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: real madness on June 22, 2005, 07:55:11 AM
I think Adu is a good player but too much hype by US media.  They always looking for some "star" so they can market him/her, it is all about money.  I don't think Adu will be a great player like Zidane, Ronaldinho, etc.  He will not be able to be in the class of guys like Cesc and Robinho.  He might be the next Landon Donovan(no further than that if he stays in the MLS for a long period of time).

But personally I don't care about how good he becomes.  He is not playing for TnT.  I care about Noray, keon Daniel, Jagdeosingh,Jones,Marvin Phillips,Abu Bakr, etc.

Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: football king on June 22, 2005, 08:05:39 AM
the man mother said no stay home stay in high school and apparently in the end he ultimately wanted to be around his family and support group in MD. i 30 and i does find it hard to leave my parents.
he needs to go now for sure not too late

as far as our youths, man talk about losing ground and doing them no good.  Is should be a felony what we doing to we promising youths.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Observer on June 22, 2005, 08:31:37 AM
Adu should have gone to Europe two years ago.  Full-stop.

The MLS is doing absolutely nothing for him for two reasons:

1 - As a young player 85% of what you learn on the training ground comes from emulation of the more experienced players.  Who is Adu looking up to on DC United?  He would have been far advanced as a player had he been training day in day out with Real Madrid, Man. Utd., Arsenal, or PSV.

No one will deny that but how many players can actually play for those teams. As a matter of fact young players develop better with smaller clubs and then progress to those bigger clubs.

2 - The MLS is a shit league.  No other way to say it.  Apart from being at home in Potomac, MD with his family, I see no real advantage to playing in this league.  A few years abroad in the reserves would have been a better standard of football still, especially as being who he is, he would have played fo the club senior team every now and again.

I disagree that the MLS is a shit league. It is certainly as good as some of the leagues I have seen in Europe (live). Without the top 3 teams in Holland, Belgium, Scotland and Portugal their leagues are very mediocre and some even have poor crowds to show for it. I saw Twenty Enchcede (spelling?) of the Dutch 1st Div. get absolutly hammered in Holland by an MLS Team. Most of te criticism levelled on the MLS is only because it is a US League. Consider this is the same league that producing players that dominating CONCACAF at an International Level.

Not overrated really, but he need to get to Europe quickly before he loses more ground.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Trini _2026 on June 22, 2005, 08:46:44 AM
Agreed observer,I thinkthis should be adu last season in the mls..

Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: football king on June 22, 2005, 08:58:39 AM
same mls that have 5 of our players and did not harm stern john development too much.
not the best but for a league less than 15 years old i'd say they ok.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Sanchez on June 22, 2005, 10:00:51 AM
Personally I think that Freddy Adu has a bright future whether it is in the MLS or another League. You have to remember that the MLS is trying to keep as much players that sell tickets as possible, so I don't blame them for doing as much as possible to keep Freddy on US soil.  The youth has nuff skill and is very trainable at his age, so which ever league he goes to, he will adapt to that league's style.
Keeping him in the MLS will no doubt limit his ability as the MLS does not have the same quality as the other leagues, but the MLS cannot be considered a shit-league.  Remember some of the other leagues have been in existence for nearly a century.  Anyway, the boy's talent will grow with him playing a lot of international matches.  I say give him his props.  Trinidad have players of his age with the same natural skill and caliber, or even better, but the lack of training and exposure is what holds them back.  Hopefully the Trinidad PFL will continue to become better over time and eventually surpass the MLS league's quality.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Coop's on June 22, 2005, 10:12:40 AM
It's amazeing how we all can look at an individual and make delicate decisions as to what direction their future in the game should be,we have to look at life during and after Football,no one knows where one going to end up,i think this kid is good the kind of things he's already doing is something to admire,the level he's playing,the exposure he's getting at his age,how many World Cups he has been too,the resposibility he undertakes,almost every Corner, Freekick and Penalty he takes for that US team,that alone says something about the kid,we can't get away from it sports is big business,once you are playing sport you like merchandise people pay for you,what we not seeing is the kind of money he making already endorsements etc you are as good as people are willing to pay for you.  
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Jah Gol on June 22, 2005, 10:26:38 AM
Pro league teams have beaten MLS teams in the past. MLS teams have struggled against Trini teams.
Does that mean that the Pro league is better than MLS? That agument is flawed. The MLS as compared to even the Turkish or Serbian league is many levels lower. It is developing well though. The Latin American and Caribbean players make it much better.

If the Pro league could retain the players who go to American colleges and attract the best players from the Caribbean we would be well on course to developing an league. Management is the solution. Americans are not more talented than Caribbean players.
Title: PFL teams vs MLS Teams
Post by: Tallman on June 22, 2005, 11:17:28 AM
Pro league teams have beaten MLS teams in the past. MLS teams have struggled against Trini teams.

The results do not support those statements. As far as I can tell, a PFL team has only beaten an MLS team once. We have scored in only 2 of 7 matches, scoring 7 while conceding 24.

DatePFL TeamMLS TeamVenueResult
March 18, 2005W-ConnectionNY/NJ MetrostarsTrinidad0-1
March 15, 2005San Juan JablotehNY/NJ MetrostarsTrinidad2-3
March 24, 2004San Juan JablotehChicago FireChicago0-4
March 17, 2004San Juan JablotehChicago FireTrinidad5-2
March 16, 2002W-ConnectionKansas City WizardsTrinidad0-1
March 3, 2002W-ConnectionKansas City WizardsKansas City0-2
September 28, 1999Joe PublicChicago FireLas Vegas0-2
August 11, 1998Joe PublicDC UnitedWashington, DC0-8
August 12, 1997United PetrotrinDC UnitedWashington, DC0-1
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Jahyouth on June 22, 2005, 11:52:23 AM
Doh sleep when Tallman around yuh know!   ;D  Yuh statements must be on point.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Jayerson on June 22, 2005, 12:29:14 PM
No one is as anti-American as I can be, last night on FSC they were showing the boot that scored 'The shot heard around the world' scored by Paul Caliguiri that propelled the Americans into the 1990 WC. I almost kicked the TV, putting that aside though we have to admit MLS is improving year after year, of course it cannot compete with EPL, La Liga, Serie A or Bundesliga but it is a descent and improving league, barring Rangers & Celtic they will beat most MLS teams and outside the big guns in Holland & Portugal the same will apply. We also can learn a lot from the Americans, remember the were the best CONCACAF team last WC and were unlucky to loose against Germany, who eventually made the finals. When it comes to tactics and strategy the Americans have excellent thinkers and can overcome more skilled teams with great individuals. Something T&T must learn. As we on the topic of leagues, I get a lot of Mexican football here and I think it is a very under-rated league, they have real talent in Mexico and exciting and the 4 - 0 thrashing Chivas gave Boca Juniors is a testament to that. 
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: NC on June 22, 2005, 01:05:11 PM
Pro league teams have beaten MLS teams in the past. MLS teams have struggled against Trini teams.

The results do not support those statements. As far as I can tell, a PFL team has only beaten an MLS team once. We have scored in only 2 of 7 matches, scoring 7 while conceding 24.

DatePFL TeamMLS TeamVenueResult
March 18, 2005W-ConnectionNY/NJ MetrostarsTrinidad0-1
March 15, 2005San Juan JablotehNY/NJ MetrostarsTrinidad2-3
March 24, 2004San Juan JablotehChicago FireChicago0-4
March 17, 2004San Juan JablotehChicago FireTrinidad5-2
March 16, 2002W-ConnectionKansas City WizardsTrinidad0-1
March 3, 2002W-ConnectionKansas City WizardsKansas City0-2
September 28, 1999Joe PublicChicago FireLas Vegas0-2
August 11, 1998Joe PublicDC UnitedWashington, DC0-8
August 12, 1997United PetrotrinDC UnitedWashington, DC0-1

Taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllman!
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: real madness on June 22, 2005, 01:15:10 PM
I like dat Tallman...man like to talk without facts or wrong facts.  Keep us on our toes.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: real madness on June 22, 2005, 02:01:12 PM
From foxsports.com

ENSCHEDE, Netherlands (AP) - If Freddy Adu is lucky, nobody will remember his appearance at the World Youth Championship. If not, it will be for two missed penalties. Nothing less, and nothing more.
 
Adu, hyped as a world-class rising talent for the past two years, flies back home with the U.S. team on Wednesday, eliminated by a classy Italy which peaked at the right moment to beat the Americans 3-1 in the second round.

At 16, Adu was the youngest player in the under-20 tournament. But his precocious talent already made him a veteran, and it was supposed to turn him into a leader.

"Freddy Adu is the new Pele," read one banner at his opening game in the championship.

But the so-called new Pele will be trying to pick up his form in Major League Soccer in the United States while other emerging stars like Argentina's Lionel Messi and Spain's Juanfran continue to spearhead their teams to hoped-for under-20 glory.

Adu will also face tough questions, and those commercial endorsements might start to weigh heavier around his neck.

To his credit, he was willing to confront the repercussions of a poor campaign.

"It is a huge disappointment," Adu said after Tuesday's game. "The worst tournament I ever played personally."

U.S. coach Sigi Schmid put it even more bluntly: "I didn't think he showed up today."

Adu did force Tuesday's penalty, but when he stepped up to take it, his attempt was saved. Until the opening tournament game against Argentina, when he also squandered a penalty kick, Adu had never missed a penalty for national teams.

Luckily on Tuesday, the referee ruled Italy goalkeeper Emiliano Viviano was too far off his line and ordered the shot retaken. This time, Schmid made Adu step back and let Hunter Freeman convert.

But after that, Adu and the U.S. team disintegrated in the second half and allowed the Italians through.

Adu admitted he fooled himself into thinking the Italians weren't that good after they qualified only as the lucky third-finishers in their four-team group.

"The guys, including myself, we relaxed a little bit," he said.


"We figured Italy was not going to be as good as they really were. But they were much, much better than that, and they took it to us. That was a bummer on our part," he said.

Adu goes back to MLS chastened in the knowledge that making the World Cup team for Germany next year has turned into a longshot.

"Right now I need a lot of work. I got to go back, work, and hopefully do real well with D.C. United and get my confidence back up," he said.

He also needs add bulk. On Tuesday, he was again the lightest and smallest player on the pitch.

"He needs to step up to the physical nature of the game," Schmid said. "Italy is a physical team and I think it took him out of his game."

Internationally, too, Adu was given more perspective on his development. "He is a good player," said Italy coach Paolo Berrettini. "He can only improve with age.
Title: I maintain my statement
Post by: Jah Gol on June 22, 2005, 03:10:42 PM
The MLS is older than the Pro league and even the PFL and better organised. If you look at your stats,you'll see that the goal deficit has decreased with time. They have a much larger pool of players from which to choose. If as some people say MLS teams beat European teams badly what is 1 nil and 3-2 against a Trinidadian club.

The MLS is a shit league. They have very good Goal keepers though. They rush the game and tackle hard and call that soccer. England beat USA 2-1 (USA scored a fluke goal) with a second or third string team.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Coop's on June 22, 2005, 03:28:47 PM
What i can't understand is we can't even get to play any English team much less to be beaten by one.
Title: Re: I maintain my statement
Post by: arrow on June 22, 2005, 03:44:18 PM
England beat USA 2-1 (USA scored a fluke goal) with a second or third string team.

The US had a mix of MLS and European players in that match.  And the US made it to quarterfinals of the last world cup, beating Portugal and barely losing to runner up Germany with a similar mix.   ???
Title: Re: I maintain my statement
Post by: Trinimassive on June 22, 2005, 05:59:28 PM
The MLS is older than the Pro league and even the PFL and better organised. If you look at your stats,you'll see that the goal deficit has decreased with time. They have a much larger pool of players from which to choose. If as some people say MLS teams beat European teams badly what is 1 nil and 3-2 against a Trinidadian club.

The MLS is a shit league. They have very good Goal keepers though. They rush the game and tackle hard and call that soccer. England beat USA 2-1 (USA scored a fluke goal) with a second or third string team.

I cracking up here yes. ;D ;D

Tallman throw the stats that seemed at the time to be indisputable. But in True Trini Fashion a way was found to nullify the facts. Well Yes. Allyuh good we.

T&T sweet oh yes T&T sweet.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Maradona7 on June 22, 2005, 06:35:32 PM
freddy adu is shit...plain and simple!!he should get booed for playing for the US.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Trini _2026 on June 22, 2005, 07:20:23 PM
Maradona7 i repeat how much players 16 years old  in trinidad can rub shoulder in  freddy adu.Wait nuh freddy  did not run all over our under 20 players and had them 5-1 at half steeeps.If he was ah trini yuh would ah hear talk
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Feliziano on June 22, 2005, 07:36:21 PM
I ent understand why allyuh so concerned bout Adu...he's overated cause they don't have another up and coming star right now...as soon as the new blonde hair blue eyed boy get discovered in a timing...people go say "Freddy who?"
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Jah Gol on June 22, 2005, 09:31:04 PM
Adu could become an outstanding player if he went to one of the top European leagues and went the youth system of one of the Elite clubs. Remember Inter wanted him real bad. Italy has a very good youth system called the Primavera.

If the US wants him to really become a great player he must leave the MLS. The US National team plays a lot of games and within the las 5 years they've produced flattering results. They are now ranked 10th in the world. While the FIFA ranking is not a 100% accurate method of measuring of the quality of teams It does give You general Idea of the football landscape. Any judgement on the quality of leagues around the world would be subjective but I would venture to say that nobody on this forum would put the MLS in the top 20.In this respect I maintain that the MLS is a shit league. 


The point I'm trying to make is that I think Adu can only reach so far in the MLS. If he is as good as the yanks say he is then he must play at a higher level.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Peong on June 22, 2005, 11:23:51 PM
e.g Look at Fabregas from Arsenal..sign at 16, playing first team at 17 and he rippin the EPL midfield and holding it down for Vieria.

I sure they have plenty of he in France, Spain, Holland, England etc.

Also Cesc beat Adu for  MVP at last year's  World Youth Cup (I think it was u-16??).

Personally I thin kAdu has potential but needs to move to Europe.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Coop's on June 23, 2005, 08:10:27 AM
Jah Gol where would you rate our Pro League in the top 20 leagues in the World.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: football king on June 23, 2005, 08:21:21 AM
i not a big fan of mls watch when a trini playing i would actually rank the league lower half of top 20 in the world
seriously around 17-20
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: NC on June 23, 2005, 08:23:33 AM
the man mother said no stay home stay in high school and apparently in the end he ultimately wanted to be around his family and support group in MD. i 30 and i does find it hard to leave my parents.
he needs to go now for sure not too late

as far as our youths, man talk about losing ground and doing them no good. Is should be a felony what we doing to we promising youths.

Hope you are not still living off your parents, it is time to start your own family and live like a real man would.  Adu is sixteen I do not see the comparison.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: football king on June 23, 2005, 08:29:19 AM
just saying family is important and when you far away you miss them every now and then and worry.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Trini _2026 on June 23, 2005, 09:30:44 AM
I wonder if these posters would be saying the same thing if freddy adu was a trini
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Jah Gol on June 23, 2005, 10:24:09 AM
We aren't talking about the Pro League .We are probably not even in the first 100.

I've seen lower division teams in Spain and Italy play at a level that seems even higher than the MLS. MLS teams are probably on the same level with leagues like Qatar and Lebanon.
Title: Re: What y'all think of Freddy Adu
Post by: Coop's on June 23, 2005, 06:23:28 PM
We aren't talking about the Pro League .We are probably not even in the first 100.
 
We are not talking about our Pro League because there is nothing to talk about,we should try and avoid talking about other peoples league before we talk about ours.The only league i don't know much about is ours,i'm not at home and very eager to know what's going on. 
Title: freddy adu stats
Post by: morvant on October 10, 2005, 01:32:27 PM
ah know i seriously off de main topic here but i went and see freddy adu play on many occasions and i doh find he so good. i just wanna know if i'm the only one that thinke like this
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: NC on October 10, 2005, 01:33:54 PM
Just for information, why it is do you think he is not good?
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: morvant on October 10, 2005, 01:42:39 PM
de man get millions all knida contracts and thing and he aint producing in my eyes :beermug:
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: KND2 on October 10, 2005, 01:43:19 PM
freddy is a good player.

He has speed, can trap, pass and kick with both feet.
He can also share beat like peas

once he get a little older he will dominate concacaf, he reminds me of latapy and if he could be more hard running and get more goals in will be dominant

Dont sleep on him

The US just bringing him along slowly they are limiting his exposure to allow him time to grow.

he is a boy playing amoung men.

Put Freedy against other youths his age and you can see how good he is.
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: NC on October 10, 2005, 01:44:17 PM
That is kind of vague ... taking his age and everything into consideration could you be more specific?
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: KND2 on October 10, 2005, 01:44:47 PM
Freddy gets limited playing time

They are using him off the bench so his goals are limited but with time he will score many goals in time
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: Andre on October 10, 2005, 01:45:07 PM
stats this year similar to last year. next couple of years will tell if he is the US "Messiah". remember is is still16 playing with big man.

stats:
http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/MLS/players/bio.jsp?team=dcu&player=adu_f&playerId=adu029662&statType=current
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: JDB on October 10, 2005, 01:47:04 PM
Yuh forgetting the boy's age Morvantman.

The money he getting now is for his potential and marketability.

He is one of the best in the world in his age group and could one day be the worlds best. That is where the money comes from.

As for his play. He is a boy playing against men and holding his own. In football physique and strength has a big influence at that age, that is why age (size) has been such an issue at youth tournaments. Once he matures them MLS men will not be able to run with him.
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: NC on October 10, 2005, 01:48:19 PM
freddy is a good player.

He has speed, can trap, pass and kick with both feet.
He can also share beat like peas

once he get a little older he will dominate concacaf, he reminds me of latapy and if he could be more hard running and get more goals in will be dominant

Dont sleep on him

The US just bringing him along slowly they are limiting his exposure to allow him time to grow.

he is a boy playing amoung men.

Put Freedy against other youths his age and you can see how good he is.

I agree with the first part of what you said except "once he get a little older he will dominate concacaf, he reminds me of latapy and if he could be more hard running and get more goals in will be dominant

Dont sleep on him

The US just bringing him along slowly they are limiting his exposure to allow him time to grow."  I think they are spoiling him and could lead to him becomming an average player if he does not leave the MLS soon.  He need to develop and under study someone before throwing him into a league like they did.  And my arguement is he would have been better served learning the game overseas, playing in the reserve league and training with some of todays best players.
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: football king on October 10, 2005, 01:49:26 PM
fella only 16.  playing vs men at least 7 yrs older.  i think he doing ok.  He ain't no 17yr old ronaldo, pele, diego, owen or rooney but he is good.  Still young and will need time.
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: morvant on October 10, 2005, 01:50:36 PM
i just ask a question dont cuss meh ;D :beermug:
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: trinibug on October 10, 2005, 02:14:48 PM
The problem is that everybody hyping freddy as the next pele - a goal scorer. But freddy real game is the passing - the man sick. unless a team rough him up, if he get the ball at his feet he will make a good pass, 4-5 times a game he will make a great pass.

I think he already outgrow the MLS (in terms of how much he can learn from the league) and should move on to europe to learn from them.

And as for his age - Fabregas and Rooney and them not exactly collecting pensions.
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: KND2 on October 10, 2005, 02:20:44 PM
I think it is important for Freddy to stay in the US. He may be better off football wise in europe but from a US point of View they will want him to stay state side for the game development as a poster child.

As long as the man comfortable he will continue to develop, he wanted to be close to home, it is not easy to live in a foreign country as a 15 , 16 year old.

just look at Dwight and how misguided he turned out, not to mention how tough he said it was living in england on his own.

The US is doing the right thing of Developing him locally because how would you know if you are capable of developing world class players if you do not at least try.

The solution to world class players for your country cannot be to send them foreign.

That is Trinidad number 1 problem.

These men coming trough the US Youth system is very good.

they are competing on a world stage
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: football king on October 10, 2005, 02:22:17 PM
Question Would freddy have made the same money in Europe that he is now?  
If not then he made the a decent choice- and seem like he wanted to stay near to his family.  

He could still go europe later on and be effective.
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: trinibug on October 10, 2005, 02:45:01 PM
I not saying no to him being able to develop if he stay in the US. But to be the best, you have to play with/against the best and that is definitely not the US. Yeah he a little young to leave home, but them tennis players do it all the time - and at a younger age. Forget sports, men sometimes have to grow up quick in every walk of life.

The balance is between development of the game in the US and the development of the player. I think he should have started here, but in another year or so he will need to move on.

As for problems in T&T - There is a long way to go before we can keep our best players at home. Including being able to pay them.
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: duscam on October 10, 2005, 03:00:42 PM
freddy is a boss..and could make our national team..on the left
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: kicker on October 10, 2005, 03:21:24 PM
Freddy gets limited playing time

They are using him off the bench so his goals are limited but with time he will score many goals in time

Freddie Adu started 16 out of  the 24 games that he played this season.....10th highest amount of minutes on the team this year so far..........I wouldn't really call that "limited" time.
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: Coop's on October 10, 2005, 03:59:13 PM
Freddy is a kid and the decisions being made by him all have to do with his parents,he got offers to play in Europe and his parents said no,they want their son to get a college eduaction,by staying in the US he is killing two birds with one stone.
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: SHOTTA on October 10, 2005, 04:01:45 PM
freedy isnt all da to me either but he will be a force to be reckoned with in concacaf 20 10 the us jus better be happy he mum win da lottery or else he wuda be death for gahana or whereever he cum from
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: Filho on October 10, 2005, 04:35:11 PM
Freddy was probably better off staying in the US. He will eventually move to Europe..it is his dream to play for Chelsea he says. Most promising youths who go to Europe too young get lost in the shuffle and never really make it. Homesickness, culural adaptation, language issues, natural growing pains...sometimes lead to a loss of form that they never recover. And in the end they get sold to lesser leagues or loaned out to a number of lesser teams in the same league....because the clubs usually aren't too sympathetic after a while. THis is especally the case with young southa americans and africans who are absolute prodigees at 12, 13, 14 years old and doh ever make a note. There are hundreds of Obafemi Martins' and Lionel Messis out there and you will only hear of a dozen or so each generation. Freddi is a fairly special player at his age but not entirely original...there are a few africans, brazilians and argentines his age who will outperform him right now in the MLS. He is getting to play pro ball and gain confidence and experience rather than languishing in the reserves in Europe somehwere....I think this is the safer path to success for him...all the hype is just to push ball in the USA, which we in Concacf should be happy for...let's up de man turns into something great...so long as TnT is his blight team  ;D
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: Touches on October 10, 2005, 04:40:36 PM
Coops............This is for you Read Carefully!
Quote
the US he is killing two birds with one stone.

ONE STONE (http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=1854.0)
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: Coop's on October 10, 2005, 05:08:54 PM
Coops............This is for you Read Carefully!
Quote
the US he is killing two birds with one stone.

ONE STONE (http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=1854.0)

I like that you make me laugh Breds.
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: Peong on October 10, 2005, 06:40:56 PM
How come Adu didn't play in the U-17 world cup this year?
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: doublet750 on October 10, 2005, 07:44:36 PM
he training with the under 20's......in the olympic development program if you reach close to 17 then you go to the under 20 residency its liek they build you from their for when u reach that age.......and the players all 16 and younger play in the under 17 team.....freddy played with the under 20's in holland so he wouldnt get called up to the udner 17 team and the next team he shall playy for his olympic under 23 team
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: Rotato Poti on October 10, 2005, 07:48:27 PM
cuz he "loss" he birth certificate.
16 meh tail.
He is probably 21 already.
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: morvant on October 10, 2005, 08:33:04 PM
cuz he "loss" he birth certificate.
16 meh tail.
He is probably 21 already.

you go have to change yuh name or somthing cause when i read it i does cyar stop laughing :beermug:
Title: Re: freddy adu stats
Post by: Preacher on October 10, 2005, 09:09:17 PM
Not because you playing like ah big man at 16 mean that when you is really a big man you'll be supernatural.  It have plently players that played ahead of there age but then their age catch up with them and they were regular.

If Freddy that good he shouldn't be playing in a nation that not really interested in football and like a set a propaganda.  He should be out dey getting the serious kinda development......15 yr old for Barcelona then you could talk star talk.........Plus America ent really want no black man being their leading face in soccer.

He could end up sitting on the shelf as a guarantee that nobody else get him...
Title: Prodigy Adu says no to Ghana, wants US World Cup spot: report
Post by: Bally on October 11, 2005, 03:21:29 PM
Prodigy Adu says no to Ghana, wants US World Cup spot: report
 
October 11, 2005
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Freddy Adu, the Ghana-born teen prodigy who became a US citizen in 2003, has no interest in playing for his African homeland in the 2006 World Cup.

Adu was overjoyed to learn Saturday that Ghana had qualified for its first World Cup, but the 16-year-old reserve forward for reigning Major League Soccer champion DC United told the Washington Post he intends to play only for US national teams.

"If they asked me, I would have to say no," Adu said. "I made up my mind to play for the United States some day and I'm sticking to it. I'm very happy. It makes me feel great that Ghana made it. But this is where I play now."

Adu has dual citizenship and would have the option, if approved by FIFA, of playing for Ghana in Germany next year because he is under 21 and has never played for the US senior national squad.

Once Adu played for Ghana, however, he could never play for the US team.

"It's definitely tempting because I want to be at this World Cup so bad," Adu told the Post. "But I am going to stay with the United States."

Adu has a longshot hope of making next year's US World Cup squad, a veteran-laden team looking to improve upon a 2002 quarter-final run, but he would be a strong contender for a 2010 World Cup debut in South Africa.

Adu was born in 1989 and moved to suburban Washington eight years later, playing on the US under-17 team at the 2003 World Championships in Finland.
Title: Re: Prodigy Adu says no to Ghana, wants US World Cup spot: report
Post by: JDB on October 11, 2005, 03:29:01 PM
I would be surprised if the US doesn't take Adu along as a non-playing squad memeber or just to train with th eteam and attend matches.

If they plan to build their programm around this youth then they shoudl do it.

It didn't work out badly for other prodigious players like Ronaldo, Ferdinand and Cole who all went on to develop well (for the most part).
Title: Re: Prodigy Adu says no to Ghana, wants US World Cup spot: report
Post by: dumpalewie on October 11, 2005, 03:37:54 PM
Shitsnake
Title: Re: Prodigy Adu says no to Ghana, wants US World Cup spot: report
Post by: Mose on October 11, 2005, 04:00:04 PM
We could probably use that "shitsnake" on de left.
Title: Re: Prodigy Adu says no to Ghana, wants US World Cup spot: report
Post by: Preacher on October 11, 2005, 04:50:52 PM
Dem ent plan to use he boy....!!!!!! they just holding he so nobody else can't get him....THis world cup in donovan own.........And the powers that be would see to that......Adu could end up a sad story....
Title: Re: Prodigy Adu says no to Ghana, wants US World Cup spot: report
Post by: Coop's on October 11, 2005, 08:33:50 PM
Shitsnake
Look at Freddy Adu's goal in goals of the week on Fox Sports,it's real class.
Title: Re: Prodigy Adu says no to Ghana, wants US World Cup spot: report
Post by: truthseeker on October 11, 2005, 08:38:03 PM
Freddy is a work in progress pardner. Wait until his body catch up with his brain... Pressure!!!
Title: Re: Prodigy Adu says no to Ghana, wants US World Cup spot: report
Post by: Peong on October 11, 2005, 08:48:20 PM
AP should give this reporter a prize for most dotish question for de year.
Title: Re: Prodigy Adu says no to Ghana, wants US World Cup spot: report
Post by: Solo on October 11, 2005, 09:55:14 PM
That goal from Freddy is one of the best individual efforts I have seen for de year by any player in any competition. Dat was some Maradona strokes dat Freddy pull on dem fellas deh starting wid de flick ova de playa head. For a moment I thought I was looking at a new Nike ad. then I realised it was a real match breds.
Title: Re: Prodigy Adu says no to Ghana, wants US World Cup spot: report
Post by: behind-de-bridge on October 12, 2005, 05:36:11 AM
Some Ghanaians will burn his family house down just for spite! Dey don't make joke.
Title: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: trinibug on October 19, 2005, 07:32:01 AM
Adu Speaks Of Playing Elsewhere
He Complains Again About Role With United

By Steven Goff
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 19, 2005; E01
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/18/AR2005101800918_pf.html

D.C. United's Freddy Adu had grumbled about his playing time periodically since signing with MLS almost two years ago. But yesterday, during a startling interview session three days before the club's playoff opener, the 16-year-old forward's frustration with Coach Peter Nowak boiled over, and he suggested that he might be better off playing elsewhere next season.

"It's funny because I've been playing so well in practice," he said. "I felt so good at training, but come game time, I'm sitting on the bench. I'm just like, 'Man, it [stinks].' That's the kind of thing that is out of your hands. You can't really do anything about it. It's out of your control. All you can control is you and what you do. It [stinks] that I'm in this situation."

Adu, who attracted worldwide attention by signing with MLS at age 14 before the 2004 season, played in every regular season game for which he was available this year (25) and started most of them (16).

He is tied for fourth on the team in goals with four and is fourth in assists with six. Of the 22 field players who have appeared in a league game for United this year, he ranks ninth in minutes played.

But after scoring a spectacular goal at Salt Lake City on Oct. 5 and starting again three days later against the MetroStars, he came off the bench at the beginning of the second half this past weekend in the regular season finale against Columbus and didn't have much impact.

"I got [MLS] player of the week, and the next week I'm sitting on the bench," Adu said. "I'm like, 'What is going on here?'

"It's frustrating at times when you think you've earned a chance to play on the field and you're over there sitting on the bench. That's not the kind of player I am. I'm the kind of player who wants to be out there on the field and needs to contribute every minute of every game. I'm not saying I should play 90 minutes every single game, but I am saying that I should definitely play a lot more than I've gotten to play."

Told of Adu's comments, Nowak said: "We give everybody a fair chance. We have players who play on the U.S. national team who sometimes don't play on our team. This is not a surprise for anybody; this is what we've been doing for two years.

"He is not playing for me. He is playing for the team and this organization. We're not going to put anyone above the team."

Adu, born in Ghana and raised in Montgomery County after his family immigrated in 1997, is the third highest-paid player in the league with total compensation at $550,000. Endorsement deals have pushed his earnings to more than $1 million per year.

Last season, in which he became the centerpiece of the fledgling league and drew big crowds to almost every United road game, Adu played in all 30 matches. He started 14 times and finished with five goals and three assists. However, after a midseason game in Dallas, he voiced frustration about playing time; he quickly apologized.

Early this season, he again expressed disappointment about his situation -- but not with as much intensity as yesterday's remarks.

United President Kevin Payne said he fully supports Nowak and the way the second-year coach has handled the club's young star.

"The issue with Freddy is that he's on a good team and he's competing for playing time with very good players," Payne said. "There are not enough starting positions to go around. I don't think his situation would be any different if he were playing for one of his dream clubs like Chelsea or Manchester United. They happen to have some good players, too."

Adu's ambition is to play for a major European club, but international rules forbid him from signing a contract overseas until he turns 18 (in June 2007). However, he said yesterday that he has thought about playing for another MLS team.

"It becomes very, very, very, very tempting to look ahead and, as a matter of fact, I'm doing that right now," he said. "I always have to make the best decision for myself first, and I'm just looking into things right now. . . . I've been in this league for two years and it's just been the same. I love the guys on this team. I don't want to leave. I'm not saying I am going to leave -- I'm not -- but you always have to look ahead and see what the best situation is for yourself first."

Asked about her son's comments, Emelia Adu said: "He couldn't hold back any longer. It's been hard for him. The family doesn't want to rush into anything, so we're waiting until the end of the season and we'll talk to the agents. They're working on it. Freddy told me he can't be in this situation another season."

Richard Motzkin, Adu's Los Angeles-based agent, did not return phone calls.

Adu also believes his hopes of making the 2006 U.S. World Cup squad have been jeopardized by his situation with United.

"That has definitely killed my chances," he said. U.S. Coach Bruce Arena "has said it a million times -- that he's not going to bring anybody in that's not playing regularly for his club team. I'm screwed in that sense, I'm definitely screwed. That was definitely a goal of mine, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen now, does it?"
© 2005 The Washington Post Company
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: trinibug on October 19, 2005, 07:33:42 AM
You see how the youths is? The man can't make DC team, but want to play for Chelsea and Man United.
He have to watch the tapes of his games and see that Nowak doing him a favour. He good eh, but he begninng to believe the hype.
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: Coop's on October 19, 2005, 07:52:34 AM
You see how the youths is? The man can't make DC team, but want to play for Chelsea and Man United.
He have to watch the tapes of his games and see that Nowak doing him a favour. He good eh, but he begninng to believe the hype.
This kid is right in his views,Soccer in the US stinks, it's big time politics and race you have to deal with,that league makes big money with that kid and that's all they care about,nobody used to go and see DC Utd play until Freddy came on board,if you want to know what goes on here talk to Lincoln it's pressure once you black.
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: trinibug on October 19, 2005, 07:57:49 AM
Dude, I will have to disagree with you there.
1. DC consistently is at the top of the league in attendance since long before freddy.
2. Freddy wasn't physically ready to play with the big boys, in fact he didn't do that well in the u21 world cup.
3. If Freddy vex now because he have to come off the bench, what he go do if a man like Sir Alex start to mess with him?
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: UPRISING on October 19, 2005, 08:17:15 AM
I agree that the youth could play, but that DC team is hard for him  to start regularly, he is too inconsistent.. He had a horrible U20 tournament and from watching some of those U17 stars the other day..I find they better than him too...maybe because of the fact that he is playing in MLS ..Freddy should go England TODAY..and play in the Reserves league for a yr or 2 and then...he might be a force....MLS just milkin him! 

As far as international play...he should consider Ghana.. no way he making the 06 US team...what he smokin...even if he was starting for DC ..
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: football king on October 19, 2005, 08:30:06 AM
Thought they said have to wait till 18 to make the european move less complicated. Less red tape or whatever.  Maybe wrong.

The youth man frustrated ain't the 1st and last time that happen, plenty men vex when they warming bench.  he a competitive youth and want to play.  He had a good week, scored thought he should have start.

and yeah DC and MLS make good money off the man, they paying him good, but they making way more then before he come around.

Just another learning experience for freddy.  But to heck with freddy and the other US youths-what are our youths doing where are our young stars. 
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: futbolfan on October 19, 2005, 08:30:48 AM
Yeah Coop's ah have to disagree with you also. DC has a loyal fan base and has been tops in attendance since the inception of the MLS. 4 titles in 10 years is not that shabby.
I agree with the fact that the league is using Freddy as a pure marketing ploy, but as far as him playing on the field, there is no race or politics involved.
He is a good player, but I am starting to believe that the people around him are starting to blow up his ego.
First of all, he struggled at an u-20 tournament and now he actually believes that he would have made the US senior team.
He is on a competitive, winning team where starting spots are contested and not a given. He is 16 and still has time to grow. The coach is a proven winner and he has Freddy's best interest in mind.
Eddie Johnson was in a similar situation and after a few years of paying his dues, he is one the best players in the MLS, 2nd highest paid player and he is also on the senior national team. (he is also black) ;D. Freddy's time will come he just needs to relax, pay his dues and he will be sucessful. Respect

You see how the youths is? The man can't make DC team, but want to play for Chelsea and Man United.
He have to watch the tapes of his games and see that Nowak doing him a favour. He good eh, but he begninng to believe the hype.
This kid is right in his views,Soccer in the US stinks, it's big time politics and race you have to deal with,that league makes big money with that kid and that's all they care about,nobody used to go and see DC Utd play until Freddy came on board,if you want to know what goes on here talk to Lincoln it's pressure once you black.
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: Coop's on October 19, 2005, 08:35:18 AM
Points well taken,but i will still say he is the reason ppl come out to see DC Utd,he is marketed more than any other player on the team but he is not good enough and you benching him,i agree with him to go somewhere else,you can't improve on any bench. 
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: grskywalker on October 19, 2005, 08:48:04 AM
Let Freddy cool his little ass. He is good no doubt but he is still too young and has a lot to learn, Maturity for starters.

I once again blame the American media for hyping him up to be this celebrity and now his head is too big to see the bigger picture.

Do you really think he would be a starting player for any of the big European clubs HELL NO!
He has the touch no doubt but he does hold the ball too long and get the wind knocked out of him from a tackle when he could have played it off. When United played against Chelsea over the summer, he was an eager beaver coming off the bench, but could not get past their defenders not even once.

With time he would be great but not for another 5 yrs...
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: Ponnoxx on October 19, 2005, 08:55:09 AM
 Freddy Adu is right..He would want to be at Manchester or Chelsea but he can't go...I sure if he was at a big team like Man U or Chelsea and Sir Alex or Mourinho had him on the bench, and bringing him on he would not be angry because if, when does get to play he plays well ppl will recognize him(in Europe). But in a MLS team... and he on the bench still ?and he could start..That go hurt him because he knows that no one cares what you win in America, and yuh doh attain no Greatness in America (although USA is beginning to embrace football)..He have a right to be vex..I sure he make plenty money for DC since he go there..
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: Coop's on October 19, 2005, 09:01:48 AM
Let Freddy cool his little ass. He is good no doubt but he is still too young and has a lot to learn, Maturity for starters.

I once again blame the American media for hyping him up to be this celebrity and now his head is too big to see the bigger picture.

Do you really think he would be a starting player for any of the big European clubs HELL NO!
He has the touch no doubt but he does hold the ball too long and get the wind knocked out of him from a tackle when he could have played it off. When United played against Chelsea over the summer, he was an eager beaver coming off the bench, but could not get past their defenders not even once.

With time he would be great but not for another 5 yrs...
All i'm saying is sitting on a bench will not help him,when will he get the chance to do the things you stated,we had guys like Marcelle,Anton etc that got opportunities at very young ages and no one asked the questions we ask today,no one knows where any one can play or will end up,even the great Yorke will struggle to make a division 1 EPL team and we all know why (one is Race).
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: futbolfan on October 19, 2005, 09:12:54 AM
The US and NIKE on a whole are just marketing machines. Hence Freddy is being pushed as the next best thing. Yes he is being marketed more than any other player,but he is not the best player on his team. One example of this that comes to mind is Beckham at Real. He is the most marketed player, but he is not the best player on his own team.
Freddy practices, plays in the reserve league and also has started for DC. The coach is seeing him everyday in practice, he knows how the player is developing.
Freddy can go to another team like Chivas,  play 90 mins every game and loose. Will this improve his development or will it be better for him to play for a championship team, compete with good players in practice,  be brought along slowly and eventually he will be a sucessful pro. Even if he goes to Europe he will be in the same predicament. I think he believes that is much better than he actually is.


Points well taken,but i will still say he is the reason ppl come out to see DC Utd,he is marketed more than any other player on the team but he is not good enough and you benching him,i agree with him to go somewhere else,you can't improve on any bench. 
Title: Frustrated Adu hints at leaving United
Post by: Socaman on October 19, 2005, 09:16:55 AM
Frustrated Adu hints at leaving United

 

Associated Press

 

WASHINGTON (AP) - Freddy Adu vented his frustration over lack of playing time Tuesday, saying it has wrecked his chances of making the U.S. World Cup team and has him thinking about leaving D.C. United.

 

United coach Peter Nowak fired back, saying tersely that the 16-year-old Adu has had his chances to play and that "nobody is going to be above this team."

The tension between disciplinarian coach and teenage player resurfaced as United prepared to open the MLS playoffs Friday night at Chicago. Adu was particularly upset he didn't start the regular-season finale Saturday against Columbus, one week after winning league honors for player of the week and goal of the week for a highlight-reel score against Real Salt Lake.

"I got player of the week that week, and the next week I'm sitting on the bench," Adu said. "And I'm just like, 'What is going on here?' It's one of those things where you don't understand what's going on, but you've got to swallow your pride and be a team player."

Nowak pointed out that Adu played the second half of the Columbus game.

"If he wants to score a goal, he would score it in the second half against Columbus. ... This is about the team, and always was," Nowak said. "And I don't care who's going to be there - because nobody is going to be above this team. This is our principle from the beginning."

The Ghanian-born Adu entered the league last year amid much hype at age 14, the youngest and highest-paid player in MLS history - with a goal of representing his new country in the World Cup in 2006.

But Nowak isn't about to showcase a budding phenom unless it means winning more games. Adu voiced his frustration over playing time several times last year, even though he started 14 of 30 games and scored five goals with three assists - while Nowak took United to its fourth MLS title.

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Freddy Adu: From prodigy to pro



 
This year, Adu has started 16 of 25 games - he missed some games with a knee injury and while he was away at the World Youth Championship. He has four goals and six assists and has to vie for playing time on a deep roster that includes forwards and midfielders Christian Gomez, Dema Kovalenko, Jaime Moreno, Ben Olsen, Santino Quaranta and emerging scorer Jamil Walker.

"It's hard to find minutes on the field," Adu said. "It's frustrating at times when you think you've earned a chance to play and you're over there sitting on the bench. That's not the kind of player I am. I'm the kind of player who wants to be out there. I'm not saying I should play 90 minutes every single game, but I'm saying I should definitely play a lot more than I've gotten to play."

Thus, on the brink of the MLS playoffs, Adu is already thinking about next year.

"It becomes very, very, very, very tempting to look ahead, and as a matter of fact I am doing that right now," Adu said. "I always have to make the best decision for myself first, and, you know, I'm just looking into things right now, so we'll see what happens at the end of this season and we'll see where my family and myself are headed."

Adu's goal always has been to play for a top club team in Europe, but the sport's complicated rules essentially prevent such a move until he is 18. If he's not with United next season, he would likely be playing with another MLS team.

Team president Kevin Payne said he "absolutely" expects Adu back next season.

"Our position is unchanged," Payne said. "I think one of the things that Freddy and the people around him need to understand is that, when it comes to playing time, Freddy is on a very good team. ... I'm not sure how this would be any different if Freddy were with Chelsea or Manchester United. They've got some pretty good players."

Adu's frustration is compounded by his desire to play in the 2006 World Cup in Germany. With every minute on the bench, Adu sees his chances to impress U.S. coach Bruce Arena slipping away.

"That's definitely killed my chances," Adu said. "Bruce has said it a million times that he's not going to bring anybody in that's not playing regularly for his club team."

Adu wouldn't have been a lock for the U.S. team, anyway. Nowak, Payne and Adu's teammates all make the same point: The kid shows flashes of talent, but it's not there all the time.

"He's still young," goalkeeper Nick Rimando said. "Sometimes you see him do so well in games and turn games around - and the next time you see him not do as well. You know what the kid has and what he can bring, and I think sometimes the coaches might get frustrated with that. I think he gets frustrated himself."

 
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: trinibug on October 19, 2005, 09:30:56 AM
I like Freddy eh, the man have potential. But we all know he not ready for prime time. Plus, you know when Pele call you the next pele, that is the kiss of death.

Freddy need to earn a regular start in DC, then eh could start talking about moving up. Stern Start off in the MLS scoring 26 goals in 27 games, and buss in the EPL. (the injury had a lot to do with it though) Freddy? 5 goals. I still think he is a (kinda lazy) midfielder, but they hyping you as a forward, then you have to score.

become top-scorer in the league, then yuh will never scrub the bench and Sam Allerdyce might give you a call.
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: Touches on October 19, 2005, 09:42:02 AM
Freddy just have to cool it.

He have skill yes, but he is overhyped by the media.

I also think the media and fans does put pressure on Nowak for him to play Freddy.

Nowak must be fed up and doing what good for the team.

Also Freddy shoulda ride and go Europe. Mls stunt him and as he gettin older we seeing how his potential is being wasted.

At 16 he is nowhere as good as Owen, Rooney, Fabregas, Ronaldo......both of them. Kaka, Diego, robinho  etc were at that age.

He will pan out to be Fluff and U.S hype in the next few years..........something like a Donovan.
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: Tongue on October 19, 2005, 09:46:53 AM
people come to see Freddy maybe....but before Freddy came DC has always have a strong following....go back to the days in Moreno's first stint, Marco, Joh Harkes, and de oddah Spanish fella....very good crowds.

Freddy eh tinkin bout no Ghana...he tinkin US...he even say dat in the interview. If he doh play for DC it will lessen his chances of makin the US team for next year.
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: Coop's on October 19, 2005, 10:12:25 AM
people come to see Freddy maybe....but before Freddy came DC has always have a strong following....go back to the days in Moreno's first stint, Marco, Joh Harkes, and de oddah Spanish fella....very good crowds.

Freddy eh tinkin bout no Ghana...he tinkin US...he even say dat in the interview. If he doh play for DC it will lessen his chances of makin the US team for next year.
I live in Northern Va,it is true there were a time when DC was it but that died and it's Freddy's image that brought this team back to life wheather he plays or not,i've been to a couple games and the Coach is under pressure to play him because that is what the ppl come to see(it's America)they don't care about Football they care about money,Donavan and all these guys in the same situation. 
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: Marcos on October 19, 2005, 10:18:57 AM
Let Freddy cool his little ass. He is good no doubt but he is still too young and has a lot to learn, Maturity for starters.

I once again blame the American media for hyping him up to be this celebrity and now his head is too big to see the bigger picture.

Do you really think he would be a starting player for any of the big European clubs HELL NO!
He has the touch no doubt but he does hold the ball too long and get the wind knocked out of him from a tackle when he could have played it off. When United played against Chelsea over the summer, he was an eager beaver coming off the bench, but could not get past their defenders not even once.

With time he would be great but not for another 5 yrs...
All i'm saying is sitting on a bench will not help him,when will he get the chance to do the things you stated,we had guys like Marcelle,Anton etc that got opportunities at very young ages and no one asked the questions we ask today,no one knows where any one can play or will end up,even the great Yorke will struggle to make a division 1 EPL team and we all know why (one is Race).

You talkin $h*t
Yorke can easily make any FIrst Div Team, and can still contribute a lot to a Premier Leage team.
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 19, 2005, 01:49:03 PM
All ah hah to say is that de youth need to stay grounded.  He shoudda go to Europe in the first place; signing for the MLS was a big mistake.  Ah ain't think he realize that the academies over in Europe does prepare yuh for playing in the big leagues.  He still go have to make ah big adjustment when he does decide to go to Europe.  He shoudda go to Holland, a good league for young players and hone he skill, then jump to ah bigger league, a la Ronaldo and Beasley.  Dem agents just looking for money.  He know he would not have gotten anything if Adu went over to Europe early, so he stick him in the MLS so he could get he signing fee.  Bout Germany:  He wasn't going in the first place.  U. S. is too deep right now, and he needs to be a little more consistent in his play.  Taking him along would be more as a learning exercise, more of a future investment, as against present ability to make the squad.
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: grskywalker on October 19, 2005, 03:51:11 PM
Marcos is right. Yorke can still play in the EPL, but you cannot compare the two. If Yorke was brought into Aston Villia at that age he ain't seeing no start on the first team for a long time.
What Freddy needs to do is use this time to sharpen his skills, and parctice a little humility, because he is so good men would target him and injure him. Man they would maul his backside in the EPL

Take time Freddy your time will come
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: trinibug on October 21, 2005, 08:30:55 PM
yuh see, look now DC suspend yuh ass.
Hard luck dey Freddy.

Ay! I hear Arsene looking for a replacement for Viera, go and check him while yuh suspended nah, see if he will give you a sweat
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: grskywalker on October 25, 2005, 12:16:34 PM
Too much mouth for a 16 yr old.
That's what happens Freddy, hey nah hear Bahrain looking for players!, jus sen your resume addressed to
 David Nakhid of the Bahrain Football Association he go give yuh a run
 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 25, 2005, 12:42:41 PM
People remember freddy is only 16 and is far from the finished product he will total dominate that league at 18.Basical i think he is as good as or a bit better than the average player.
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: grskywalker on October 25, 2005, 02:33:42 PM
And it is because he is far from the finished product it's all the more reason he needs to be a little more humble in his approach to this issue.
If he has a bad attitude from now coaches will be apprehensive about hiring him no matter how good he is
Title: Re: Freddy Boy, go and play for Ghana!
Post by: Pointman on October 25, 2005, 02:44:04 PM
In Freddy's defence though, he has always played with older fellas and done well so he probably sees this as no different, especially since scoring 4 goals for his team and getting MVP honors.
Title: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Andre on December 12, 2005, 08:57:30 AM
what allyuh think? he should play for the black stars or hold out for a US call up?

i bet arena field him in a freindly real soon.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/4521118.stm

Ghana plan Adu swoop 
Piers Edwards
BBC Sport 

Ghana-born Freddy Adu has played for the USA at junior level

Ghana are going to make a dramatic bid to lure teenage star Freddy Adu into representing them at next year's World Cup.

The 16-year-old currently plays for the United States at youth level but is Ghanaian by birth.

Yet he can switch nationalities because Fifa allow a player to play for one team at youth level and another at senior level as long as he makes the change before the age of 21.

Now the Black Stars aim to convince the teenager to play for them at not only the World Cup but next month's Nations Cup as well.

"We have decided to contact Adu to ask him to decide whether he would like to play for Ghana or the United States," Black Stars coach Ratomir Dujkovic told BBC Sport....

 
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: palos on December 12, 2005, 08:59:26 AM
Similar situation with striker Salomon Kalou.

He born in the Ivory Coast, lives and plays in Holland with Eindhoven and has been invited by Van Basten to play with the Dutch National team.  Of course, both Holland and Ivory Coast in the same group.  He applyin fuh Dutch citizenship right now.

Funny eh?
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Mr Mc on December 12, 2005, 09:14:26 AM
Freddy boy go and play for Ghana, and beat the US, cause if your MLS career continues to do downhill, you will soon no longer be the US poster child for Soccer, and you may no even see the pitch during the WC.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Coop's on December 12, 2005, 09:22:31 AM
Funny how posters here don't rate this kid and look at what's happening,not only the US sees it but Ghana also,DC Utd still giving him pressure to play and when he talks he should not(because he black).
   I will repeat what i've always said all along that kid is good.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Andre on December 12, 2005, 09:26:52 AM
Funny how posters here don't rate this kid and look at what's happening,not only the US sees it but Ghana also,DC Utd still giving him pressure to play and when he talks he should not(because he black).
   I will repeat what i've always said all along that kid is good.

coops,

no doubt. the boy have skill. that is undisputed.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: kicker on December 12, 2005, 09:37:53 AM
I think Freddy feels well assimilated into the U.S. culture, and considers himself American. He's represented the U.S. at the youth level, and might soon transition to the senior team.....he seems to have developed full loyalty to the States. At the end of the day, he should play wherever his heart tells him...and I think his heart is in the States.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: spideybuff on December 12, 2005, 09:40:41 AM
Nah...i feel he realise the states could give him a better life, him and his family. But he have that now...
He grow up in Ghana..u always rememeber ur roots, go back and play for the africans, boy !
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Andre on December 12, 2005, 09:42:49 AM
...u always rememeber ur roots...

true dat.

if i were given a choice of playing for the US or T&T, representing the red, white, and black is without question.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Trini Madness on December 12, 2005, 09:47:01 AM
i think adu was invited to de US camp,  but i not sure if he'll get a starting job dey. if he go ghana he'll most likely get a starting job.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: palos on December 12, 2005, 10:06:31 AM
Freddy Adu will not make the US World Cup team.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: spideybuff on December 12, 2005, 10:21:49 AM
I eh know about starting with Ghana but he will get a sweat...remember a certain Jay Jay oKacha playing at 17 years old in 94?
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: doh_stick on December 12, 2005, 10:26:37 AM
Adu is a "yankee" yes.. his chances of playing for the US will increase as he gets older and hones his game..I think he will stick it out and wait to be called by Arena..
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Coop's on December 12, 2005, 10:31:17 AM
Freddy Adu will not make the US World Cup team.
I agree with you i personally don't think he can,but being around a team like that and ppl taking notice of you is good for a 16 yr old.
What i'm trying to reason with is if he plays for Ghana in the WC what would be his situation afterwards,contracts etc at the moment he has a million dollar contract plus endorsement capabilities.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: daryn on December 12, 2005, 10:37:34 AM
From a sentimental standpoint, I would like to see Freddy go back to play for Ghana, but he will probably experience a great backlash if he does.  US Soccer and Nike have invested a lot of time/energy into developing his game and promoting him as the great American hope.  He still has to go back home to Maryland at the end of the cup.  Whether we like to admit it or not, the US is probably a safer bet to qualify consistently for future world cups than Ghana is.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Israel on December 12, 2005, 10:39:12 AM
Allyuh tink he could start for ghana if he intends to play for d blaack stars?
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: kicker on December 12, 2005, 10:42:22 AM
Nah...i feel he realise the states could give him a better life, him and his family. But he have that now...
He grow up in Ghana..u always rememeber ur roots, go back and play for the africans, boy !

Grew up in Ghana ? I thought he moved to the States as a young kid.....I barely consider him grown up now.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: football king on December 12, 2005, 10:49:31 AM
He is a very good player,i would be shocked if he went to ghana,  freddy is 1 for the future and Arena, USA knows that.  he should throw some flames on a rumor and make USA fork over even more money cause they would be foolish to lose him.  also i don't know under what circumstances his family left ghana in the 1st place, apparently his old lady is the boss so she may say heck no.

it will be hard to make US team for germany if he start ripping up he could be in.  Arena should consider taking a young prospect on the trip.  if he could spare that 1 spot.  even give him a small 5-10 mins run. Me i would definitely bring him into the training camp.

Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Grande on December 12, 2005, 11:11:11 AM
Freddy boy go and play for Ghana, and beat the US, cause if your MLS career continues to do downhill, you will soon no longer be the US poster child for Soccer, and you may no even see the pitch during the WC.


Ah doh think Adu was ever the poster child for US soccer; that was and still is Landon Bullaman...ah mean Donovan. There was all dis hype about him, callin him de next Pele and everything, and now he just phase out. Doh get me wrong, ah see him play, he REAL skilled, but there hadda be a reason Arena eh pick him in this current US squad. Not even as ah sub. He should play fuh Ghana, fuh me that is more prestige, but I agree with kicker, he is a Yank.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: jusme on December 12, 2005, 11:23:01 AM
Similar situation with striker Salomon Kalou.

He born in the Ivory Coast, lives and plays in Holland with Eindhoven and has been invited by Van Basten to play with the Dutch National team.  Of course, both Holland and Ivory Coast in the same group.  He applyin fuh Dutch citizenship right now.

Funny eh?

not only that but his older brother is the captain of the Ivory Coast team.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Jahyouth on December 12, 2005, 11:29:50 AM
Adu has already said that he is not interested in playing for Ghana.  This came up a few months ago as well.  I would say play for your land of birth and heritage, but as people have said Freddy feels as American as the kid next door. 

Don't expect him to line up for the Black Stars at all.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 12, 2005, 11:42:12 AM
Freddie stands to lose a lot, if he commits to playing to Ghana.  He'll be seen as the the guy who turned his back on the US, as he is seen as the future of American soccer.  All these endorsements he gets are spurred on by his positioning as the next American superstar.  He'll lose all that if he signs for plays for Ghana.  Besides, I think that Adu embraces America more than Ghana because of the opportunity that he and his family have been presented with in America.  He remembers his childhood in Ghana, but I thnk he really wants to play for the US.  His time will come in 2010.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: 100% Barataria on December 12, 2005, 11:47:52 AM
On a similar tip, did Damarcus Beasely ever consider playing for JA?  Maybe this was raised before, but he too seems to have his heart here with the US....
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on December 12, 2005, 11:50:56 AM
me eh seeing all this skill all yuh talking bout nuh
I remember the last national torunament he play the man look regular nothing outstanding at all
where Freddy went wrong is that he should of gone Europe to play instead of MLS where this so called talent could of been nutured because sitting on the bench not playing in the MLS eh helping the man

having said that maybe Arena should carry him and let him get the experience jes like Brasil and Ronaldo in 94

I eh seeing Freddy going Ghana at all cause is best he stay in Germany after because he eh go get one sweat in that MLS
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: jusme on December 12, 2005, 12:09:27 PM
me eh seeing all this skill all yuh talking bout nuh
I remember the last national torunament he play the man look regular nothing outstanding at all
where Freddy went wrong is that he should of gone Europe to play instead of MLS where this so called talent could of been nutured because sitting on the bench not playing in the MLS eh helping the man

having said that maybe Arena should carry him and let him get the experience jes like Brasil and Ronaldo in 94

I eh seeing Freddy going Ghana at all cause is best he stay in Germany after because he eh go get one sweat in that MLS

Brazil didn't carry Ronaldo just for experience.  they carried him because he was mashing up the Brazilian league and was one of their top 5 forwards (with Romario, Bebeto, Edmundo and Viola).  If I remember correctly he was playing with Cruzeiro and scoring lots of goals.  Right after the cup he went PSV and was scoring lots of goals.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: spideybuff on December 12, 2005, 12:24:57 PM
Adu has already said that he is not interested in playing for Ghana.  This came up a few months ago as well.  I would say play for your land of birth and heritage, but as people have said Freddy feels as American as the kid next door. 

Don't expect him to line up for the Black Stars at all.

Since then he complain about benchin at DC because he was not getting a chance to showcase his wares to make the World Cup squad...
In other words, the man state that his goal is to make the WC teamand he not getting that chance in the US. Freddy know that all big players go to a world cup at 16/17...if he hadda wait tile he's 21, more likely than not...he will never be the best player in the world that ppl expect him to become.

Grew up in Ghana ? I thought he moved to the States as a young kid.....I barely consider him grown up now.

He move to the states after he was noticed for his football...which would have to be after age 10
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: daryn on December 12, 2005, 12:33:59 PM
according to this bio  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddy_Adu) he came in 1997 when he would have been either 7 or 8.  His family won the green card lottery.


Quote from wikipedia bio:

Adu learned to kick a ball at the age of two; soon after he was hitting rocks and refreshment bottles barefooted like many African soccer stars before him. Adu left Ghana with his family in 1997 after winning a lottery for a United States visa. At age 13, Adu joined the Bradenton Academy, US soccer's premier youth residency program. At the age of 14, he signed a professional contract with the D.C. United Major League Soccer and is now a resident of Potomac, Maryland in the United States and a U.S. citizen.




Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on December 12, 2005, 12:36:26 PM

Brazil didn't carry Ronaldo just for experience.  they carried him because he was mashing up the Brazilian league and was one of their top 5 forwards (with Romario, Bebeto, Edmundo and Viola).  If I remember correctly he was playing with Cruzeiro and scoring lots of goals.  Right after the cup he went PSV and was scoring lots of goals.


yuh just contradict yuh self they
the man at 17 really think he was going to start infront of Romario come on man
they carry the man cause they saw the talent and wanted to expose him not like he was ever going to get a call with he skiny self
so is experience they carry the man for

now is Freddy Adu going to get that call........doubtfull
is playing for Ghana the best decision in the longrun........ doubtfull
is staying in the US to play in the MLS and benching the best decision when ManUre and Inter wanted yuh...... doubtfull
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Preacher on December 12, 2005, 12:37:20 PM
Freddy real stupid if he don't go and play for them......
1. Is the World Cup you getting ask to play in.
2. Teams around the world ready to pay you big moneyfor you right now after the world cup that increasing.
3. THe USA not making as big a splash as they think they will.
4. You don't owe them anything.
5. You benching in the weakest league in the world
6. No black player becoming the face of american soccer
7. They just using you to draw fans but the committed to white players....
8. Your life would be worth more if it inspires other youth from your country...Ghana.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Pointman on December 12, 2005, 12:40:02 PM
i think adu was invited to de US camp,  but i not sure if he'll get a starting job dey. if he go ghana he'll most likely get a starting job.

are you sure about that?
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Pointman on December 12, 2005, 12:46:33 PM
Freddy real stupid if he don't go and play for them......
1. Is the World Cup you getting ask to play in.
2. Teams around the world ready to pay you big moneyfor you right now after the world cup that increasing.
3. THe USA not making as big a splash as they think they will.
4. You don't owe them anything.
5. You benching in the weakest league in the world
6. No black player becoming the face of american soccer
7. They just using you to draw fans but the committed to white players....
8. Your life would be worth more if it inspires other youth from your country...Ghana.

the real question is: If he commits to play for Ghana, will he start or even get any playing time?
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: USgalWARRIORbf on December 12, 2005, 12:47:09 PM
 I think Arena should carry him to the WC because it would help him mature into a world class player.  no, i dont want him playing in anything but the last 3 minutes of any world cup game cause hes too lightweight for me, but he has alot of potential.

 I wouldnt go so far as to say "no black player becoming the face of american soccer" because they put up unprecendented sums to get him here and if he lives up to the hype then he will definitely be the posterboy.  when people come to DC united games its him the young fans are cheering for because hes an apsiration. It would kinda be a slap in the face if he played for ghana (especially when they are in our group)  and hes definitely not going to because he is our largest investment.  
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on December 12, 2005, 01:00:37 PM
boy
Adu is ah set ah hype
and is jes the American marketing machine that have we even talking about him

you could go Brasil, Mexico, Argentina, Portugal or the park up by Morvantman and get any youth with comparible skill, leh we doh get caught up in the hype

how much all yuh hear about Messi before he start for Barca and look where he reach at 17

Adu like plenty of them fellas in the NBA they get too much before they actually earn it. What has Adu really done to earn that hype beside making a good story to reach on NBC.

if Adu really want to do something he need to head Europe and play somewhere like Holland that does nuture players and forget all the nike and Mountain Dew for now. Them thing go come in time.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: morvant on December 12, 2005, 01:07:48 PM
i agree with disgruntled

he score one good goal and thats all he has to show for a whole season

yes i know he score others but one was nice

when conrad was he age he was a million times better than adu

tinto or tiny go have he spinning any day
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: jusme on December 12, 2005, 01:08:45 PM

Brazil didn't carry Ronaldo just for experience.  they carried him because he was mashing up the Brazilian league and was one of their top 5 forwards (with Romario, Bebeto, Edmundo and Viola).  If I remember correctly he was playing with Cruzeiro and scoring lots of goals.  Right after the cup he went PSV and was scoring lots of goals.


yuh just contradict yuh self they
the man at 17 really think he was going to start infront of Romario come on man
they carry the man cause they saw the talent and wanted to expose him not like he was ever going to get a call with he skiny self
so is experience they carry the man for

now is Freddy Adu going to get that call........doubtfull
is playing for Ghana the best decision in the longrun........ doubtfull
is staying in the US to play in the MLS and benching the best decision when ManUre and Inter wanted yuh...... doubtfull

disgruntled, you really miss the point.  I am not saying he had a realistic chance of starting over Romario.  I am saying that he earn his spot on the 23 man roster because he was one of their 5 best strikers and that is how about how many strikers people usually carry in their squad.  When you select a squad you have to cater for potential injuries, suspensions or even the chance that a man might not be having a good game some time.  The man was one of the leading forwards in Brazil at a time when not as many Brazilians were playing in Europe as there are today.  In fact right after the World Cup he went to Holland and was probably best forward there ahead of the men who had caps for holland (Kluivert was now coming on the scene himself and people used to compare them a lot in the earlies, the 2 teenage prodigies in the dutch league).  You could be sure that Parreira woulda be ready to put him in the game if the circumstances had call for it.  This is world cup we talking bout, yuh doh carry men to be tourists.  Every man on the squad have to be prepared for the eventuality that he might actually end up on the field.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on December 12, 2005, 01:18:04 PM

disgruntled, you really miss the point.  I am not saying he had a realistic chance of starting over Romario.  I am saying that he earn his spot on the 23 man roster because he was one of their 5 best strikers and that is how about how many strikers people usually carry in their squad.  When you select a squad you have to cater for potential injuries, suspensions or even the chance that a man might not be having a good game some time.  The man was one of the leading forwards in Brazil at a time when not as many Brazilians were playing in Europe as there are today.  In fact right after the World Cup he went to PSV and was best forward there ahead of the men who had caps for holland.  You could be sure that Parreira woulda be ready to put him in the game if the circumstances had call for it.  This is world cup we talking bout, yuh doh carry men to be tourists.  Every man on the squad have to be prepared for the eventuality that he might actually end up on the field.


horse the man had no chance of starting barring something ridiculous like everybody break they leg
but the experience gained from being on the bench on the big stage was invaluable experience that yuh cyah pay for
Adu on the other hand not even playing so he cyah even make the bench cause the coach eh have nothing to go but hype


Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Rodney on December 12, 2005, 01:21:00 PM
The man go lose serious cash if he opt fuh Ghana. Part of his appeal (financial appeal) in the USA is the fact that he is considered an American. If he opts to play for Ghana I'm sure his financial representatives will be warning him about all the lost revenue. It will surely be a case of Heart overuling Head, not necessarily a bad thing but certainly a Brave move....especially as he is less certain of going back to a World Cup if he opts for his homeland.

In a nutshell.....I don't think he would do it, Freddy enjoys his current financial situation.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: jusme on December 12, 2005, 01:36:36 PM
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horse the man had no chance of starting barring something ridiculous like everybody break they leg
but the experience gained from being on the bench on the big stage was invaluable experience that yuh cyah pay for
Adu on the other hand not even playing so he cyah even make the bench cause the coach eh have nothing to go but hype




I'll give you one thing: you very consistent.  Yuh still mising the point.  So what if he had no realistic hope of breaking into the starting 11?  It is very realistic that he would have been called upon if they found themselves chasing the game and Parreira thought his style of play would have been more advantageous than Edmundo or Viola (the other striking options off the bench).    You doh think that by the time WC reach around Beenie will more or less be settled on his starting lineup? Further, he woulda done figure out which 3 or 4 subs he using on a regular basis.  Does that mean that the other men on the squad will just be men who come to check out the scene?  Everyone of them will have to be prepared to see action.
I not saying it wouldn't be a valuable experience for him, but that is really secondary to the needs of the team.  Argentina leave Maradona off their squad at the same age in 78 and they win the whole thing and he still manage to be a great player when his time to be the man.

anyhow, I gone to work with dat one.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Socapro on December 12, 2005, 01:41:28 PM
I think Arena should carry him to the WC because it would help him mature into a world class player.  no, i dont want him playing in anything but the last 3 minutes of any world cup game cause hes too lightweight for me, but he has alot of potential.

 I wouldnt go so far as to say "no black player becoming the face of american soccer" because they put up unprecendented sums to get him here and if he lives up to the hype then he will definitely be the posterboy.  when people come to DC united games its him the young fans are cheering for because hes an apsiration. It would kinda be a slap in the face if he played for ghana (especially when they are in our group)  and hes definitely not going to because he is our largest investment.  

Hold on there USgalWARRIOR!! Why all this "OUR" when refering to the USA? The only team that is referred to as "OUR" here is OUR Soca Warriors! I think you may need to drop the WARRIOR from your handle if you keep going on like that!  ;) 8) :chilling:
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Trinimassive on December 12, 2005, 01:57:14 PM
Rodney hit the nail or rather the post on the head before I could type it. It is my thoughts also that he eh stupid and eh want to lose that money.

The man (or boy) know how to spell NIKE.  Longterm it is a better option financially.

He has also proven in his age group that he is a great player...the problem is that he want to wear boots that too big for him right now. We've seen what he can do when he played with his age group. I think MLS was too big of a jump for him not because it is all that great of a league but it is decent and playing against men will not allow him to perfect the stuff he was doing with his peers. He has had to adapt his game and play differently and in the end it may make him ordinary.

Messi is benefiting from coming up the ranks of Barca since age 12 and I doubt MLS could groom Adu like that. But yuh never know maybe just maybe he could rise above that.
But as of now no way no how Arena taking him Germany on that team...the Americans not that smart to do that they have gotten cocky and would think he taking up valuable space. Since ah watch on ESPN during the draw they rating the team as one of the ones to watch to win the cup :rotfl: Yes they actually said that.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Jefferz on December 12, 2005, 02:16:27 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Coop's on December 12, 2005, 02:27:37 PM
i agree with disgruntled

he score one good goal and thats all he has to show for a whole season

yes i know he score others but one was nice

when conrad was he age he was a million times better than adu

tinto or tiny go have he spinning any day
That is not the point,the guy is in a very good position, weather he does well or not is erelavant,Tinto and these guys have nothing, they can spin Adu how much they want,life is a gamble you never know how things going to work out for you,he and his family have an opportunity presented to them,if things work out he set for life,what he going back to Ghana for.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Cantona007 on December 12, 2005, 02:32:27 PM
i agree with disgruntled

he score one good goal and thats all he has to show for a whole season

yes i know he score others but one was nice

when conrad was he age he was a million times better than adu

tinto or tiny go have he spinning any day
Ditto; his biggest mistake was taking the money from Nike and them. He was 14 at the time; he should be learning ball, not appearing in ads. He make a big out by not landing in Europe. I was having this discussion with a Yank pardner of mine and he did not get it... they just think he should grab the money/fame. Academies like Ajax etc would have hime bitin hard as a mature baller... If Fergie and Inter want to develop you as a youth, you have to be crazy to turn it down (despite the total sh!t Fergie doing these days eh).
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: truthseeker on December 12, 2005, 02:39:30 PM
Yes: Adu was called to the US camp by Bruce but so were a number of players and Bruce said that they will have to earn their spots.

Unlike Messi and the others who moved to Europe at an early age, there are some specific FIFA Laws  (and EU Labor laws) that prohibit minors moving to Europe before a certain age. I cannot remember the exact specification but I remember Adu did not meet any of the required loopholes so he has to wait until he is 18. Bear in mind that English laws regulating the movement of child labor tends to be a bit more strict than say Spain or Holland.

Hell NO!!! Freddie cannot make the Ghana squad. This is arguably the best African team in this year's Cup. Essien, Muntari (Udinese) Appiah (formerly of Juventus) and are the three stalwarts if that team's midfield. These players are experienced, strong fast skillful and physically imposing... Feddie cannot start with this team... Cannot!!!

Nike has too much invested in Freddie for him to play for Ghana. he is one of the USSF poster boys, plus the financial incentives for him playing for the USA are too significant to ignore.

Freddie's progress has been hampered by DC United. He would have been much further ahead at a bigh European club... the quality of training is just not the same and cannot be compared at all.

When looking at a young player like Freddie, all you want to see is whether or not he has a developed sense of game awareness, foresight, technique and skill. He is not overrated but the MLS is not a skill driven league, it thrives on physicality and muscle bound play, and in many ways Freddie is made to look mediocre by his teammates. When his physique catches up to the other excellent aspects of his game, he will blossom.

PS: look at Beasley before and look at the improvement since his arrival at PSV... Freddie would do well to follow his example.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: football king on December 12, 2005, 02:53:25 PM
that sounds true, i think there is some rule where he had to wait until 18 to go europe.  So all the talk about he should have gone Europe and not mls may be a mute point.   he can still make that jump.
look this fella rip up u-17 WC, was a leader on his U-20 team,  the man taking penalty, set pieces etc. and he still only 16.  the will not give any unskilled clown those responsibilities.  he could play another U-20 cup although i doubt he is allowed to. (fifa rules).
as for making ghana squad i don't know and i doubt he is interested anyway.  don't take the money- come on, hell yeah if nike, sprite or whoever giving it i taking it, unless it is a shady company.
and i can't see how u could compare him to our guys as coops said where are our players of that age? maybe we need to find a few like him or better.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Jah Gol on December 12, 2005, 02:57:51 PM
I've seen the youth play on several occasions and I think he's over hyped and overrated. I want to draw reference to the recent U-17 tournament in Peru where a great proportion of the players where 16 and included a few 15 year olds. There are at least 3 players on the Brazillian team with a better first touch and tactical awareness than Adu. They all read the game well . The Mexican who is now with Arsenal ,Dos Santos is a better player than Adu.  I know somebody will say that was U17 and MLS is a higher standard. My response to that would be The quality of that tournament is higher than an average MLS league match.
No rushed,overly physical crap that you see in the MLS.  If Adu wants to live up to the hype let him go to Europe and play with the big boys. MLS will kill him even further.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 12, 2005, 03:02:33 PM
Adu has already said that he is not interested in playing for Ghana. This came up a few months ago as well. I would say play for your land of birth and heritage, but as people have said Freddy feels as American as the kid next door.

Don't expect him to line up for the Black Stars at all.

Since then he complain about benchin at DC because he was not getting a chance to showcase his wares to make the World Cup squad...
In other words, the man state that his goal is to make the WC teamand he not getting that chance in the US. Freddy know that all big players go to a world cup at 16/17...if he hadda wait tile he's 21, more likely than not...he will never be the best player in the world that ppl expect him to become.

Grew up in Ghana ? I thought he moved to the States as a young kid.....I barely consider him grown up now.

He move to the states after he was noticed for his football...which would have to be after age 10

If I recall correctly, Maradona was not selected in 1978, because the coach though he was too young, even though he might have had the skills to do well.  That did not deter him from becoming the world's best.  If Adu doesn't go to Germany, which seems highly likely, it won't deter his development.  His time is 2010, in my opinion.  Not every player that is gifted has to play in the World Cup at age 16/17.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Cantona007 on December 12, 2005, 03:06:44 PM
that sounds true, i think there is some rule where he had to wait until 18 to go europe.  So all the talk about he should have gone Europe and not mls may be a mute point.   he can still make that jump.
look this fella rip up u-17 WC, was a leader on his U-20 team,  the man taking penalty, set pieces etc. and he still only 16.  the will not give any unskilled clown those responsibilities.  he could play another U-20 cup although i doubt he is allowed to. (fifa rules).
as for making ghana squad i don't know and i doubt he is interested anyway.  don't take the money- come on, hell yeah if nike, sprite or whoever giving it i taking it, unless it is a shady company.
and i can't see how u could compare him to our guys as coops said where are our players of that age? maybe we need to find a few like him or better.
The thing about going to Europe is nt that he goes as a full professional, but to an Academy (like Landon Bullerman... as someone here called him  ;D )
The MLS is doing nothing for his development... it's just $-signs in Nike's eyes.... not that I really give that much of a shyte anyway...
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: kicker on December 12, 2005, 03:20:08 PM
I don't think Freddy needs to be concerned about playing at this world cup. He'll be 20 next world cup...and that's still young. I think the world has realized that Freddy is not in a class by himself even for his age, and we should all just get over it. I personally think that there are 16 year old Brazilians and Argentinians as good as Freddy. He is very talented and is the best at his age here in the U.S. The U.S. has all right to market him. Young American kids need a Freddy adu to look up to. If there was a Trini Freddy it would be good for our youth football.........People keep knocking Freddy and Donovan for staying in the U.S. to play football. While there is a good point, you have to realize that some players need to be pioneers, even if it's to the detriment/sacrifice of personal development and finances. If all young players ran to Europe, that status quo of World Football would be static.....and that's not good for global development of the game. If the MLS ever becomes one of the World's most prominent leagues, players like Adu and Donovan would be credited for such......If Freddy plays for Ghana, it would be a very commendable and noble move......if he stays dedicated to the U.S......he deserves the same respect.

GO UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND- NCAA Men's SOCCER CHAMPS 2005 !!!!!!!! -4th consecutive final four appearance- totally besides the point, but I had to stick that in there.

Fatima, U.Maryland........Trinidad next ?? (aiming for the treble)
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Filho on December 12, 2005, 03:24:50 PM
me eh seeing all this skill all yuh talking bout nuh
I remember the last national torunament he play the man look regular nothing outstanding at all
where Freddy went wrong is that he should of gone Europe to play instead of MLS where this so called talent could of been nutured because sitting on the bench not playing in the MLS eh helping the man

having said that maybe Arena should carry him and let him get the experience jes like Brasil and Ronaldo in 94

I eh seeing Freddy going Ghana at all cause is best he stay in Germany after because he eh go get one sweat in that MLS

Brazil didn't carry Ronaldo just for experience.  they carried him because he was mashing up the Brazilian league and was one of their top 5 forwards (with Romario, Bebeto, Edmundo and Viola).  If I remember correctly he was playing with Cruzeiro and scoring lots of goals.  Right after the cup he went PSV and was scoring lots of goals.

almost...it was Romario, Bebeto, Muller and Viola
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Filho on December 12, 2005, 03:30:40 PM
He move to the states after he was noticed for his football...which would have to be after age 10

noone ever heard fo Fredi when he first moved to the States. His mom won de green card lottery and moved her family there for a better life in 1997. He was 8 years old. He was then discovered by the US Olympic Development program when  he  tried out for a spot for youth prospects at a US Seoccer Federation Camp in 1998. Get the facts..men like to start too much rumors
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: truetrini on December 12, 2005, 03:43:31 PM
Adu or ah Dont me eh care one way.

Zamora and Samuel dem playing fuh we?
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Preacher on December 12, 2005, 03:44:33 PM
If some men feel he cyah make the Ghana team...well he might as well stay in the USA...The story continues.......2010 for he....
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Coop's on December 12, 2005, 04:22:08 PM
i agree with disgruntled

he score one good goal and thats all he has to show for a whole season

yes i know he score others but one was nice

when conrad was he age he was a million times better than adu

tinto or tiny go have he spinning any day
Ditto; his biggest mistake was taking the money from Nike and them. He was 14 at the time; he should be learning ball, not appearing in ads. He make a big out by not landing in Europe. I was having this discussion with a Yank pardner of mine and he did not get it... they just think he should grab the money/fame. Academies like Ajax etc would have hime bitin hard as a mature baller... If Fergie and Inter want to develop you as a youth, you have to be crazy to turn it down (despite the total sh!t Fergie doing these days eh).

Breds there is no guarantee anybody going to make it anywhere,all we talk about are the few that make it but there are hundreds that don't,everybody in this business for personal gains so don't get fooled by some ppl success,everything going on today is chances ppl taking.Only time will tell weather the decisions that Adu make is right or wrong.   
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Carib-Briton on December 12, 2005, 04:51:52 PM
On a similar tip, did Damarcus Beasely ever consider playing for JA?  Maybe this was raised before, but he too seems to have his heart here with the US....

Good Thread btw

but where was DaMarcus Beasely come into this? He was born in Indiana.
Is his parents Jamaican? can anyone confirm with a link or something?
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: trinibug on December 12, 2005, 04:55:16 PM
It would be interesting to see if some of the people saying Freddy should play for Ghana, are also amongst those saying that Zamora and Jlloyd should get blank.

Part of the appeal of the world cup is that is it your national team that is playing. The different styles, the different types of players. The team on the field in your colours represents your culture as it applies to football (less so now with players all over the world, than before)

Every coach would like to be able to field a World XII side, but what would that mean really? I don't think the tournament would be the same if every side was a bunch of mercenaries wearing your colours. Who want to see that? If Jar-Jar.. er... Ronaldinho jump in to sweat for T&T would that make the world cup better for you? or would you wonder what could be with your own home-grown talent?

Does Merlene Ottey running for Slovenia bring joy to Jamaica? to Slovenia?

I am a man who has always felt that if you are going to lose, lose your own way, with your own squad, go down fighting. At least you have your dignity, If you embarassed, prepare better the next time.

If Freddy sign on to play for Ghana now,after he blank them for qualifying,  he will be exactly what people claim to dislike on this board - a waggonist! Though at least freddy was born and live a little in Ghana. In that regard, he ahead of Birchall, and we know we love Birchie.



Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Rymizx on December 12, 2005, 05:03:36 PM
Adu better than the best current USA members.
But is he better than the average Brazillian player ? I thinks not.

It is a tough decision. Does Ghana want him for any other reason than what we want Samuel for ? I thinks not also.

Is Adu blanking Ghana for qualifying by a vaps choice or due to other commitments ?

Tough decisoins...
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: dumpalewie on December 12, 2005, 05:24:10 PM
Yes: Adu was called to the US camp by Bruce but so were a number of players and Bruce said that they will have to earn their spots.

Unlike Messi and the others who moved to Europe at an early age, there are some specific FIFA Laws  (and EU Labor laws) that prohibit minors moving to Europe before a certain age. I cannot remember the exact specification but I remember Adu did not meet any of the required loopholes so he has to wait until he is 18. Bear in mind that English laws regulating the movement of child labor tends to be a bit more strict than say Spain or Holland.

Hell NO!!! Freddie cannot make the Ghana squad. This is arguably the best African team in this year's Cup. Essien, Muntari (Udinese) Appiah (formerly of Juventus) and are the three stalwarts if that team's midfield. These players are experienced, strong fast skillful and physically imposing... Feddie cannot start with this team... Cannot!!!

Nike has too much invested in Freddie for him to play for Ghana. he is one of the USSF poster boys, plus the financial incentives for him playing for the USA are too significant to ignore.

Freddie's progress has been hampered by DC United. He would have been much further ahead at a bigh European club... the quality of training is just not the same and cannot be compared at all.

When looking at a young player like Freddie, all you want to see is whether or not he has a developed sense of game awareness, foresight, technique and skill. He is not overrated but the MLS is not a skill driven league, it thrives on physicality and muscle bound play, and in many ways Freddie is made to look mediocre by his teammates. When his physique catches up to the other excellent aspects of his game, he will blossom.

PS: look at Beasley before and look at the improvement since his arrival at PSV... Freddie would do well to follow his example.
The best post on this topic.

The MLS is a physical league. Freddie can't shine because they beat him up all the time. The problem is that he is being coached to fit into the team at DC United while neglecting the developement of his individual game. Watch the man he really has outstanding footskills. However, he is too light and he clearly doesn't understand the game yet.

Add to that, he all caught up in his own hype. He need to realize that they have men like Messi, and Fabergas who are his age and much further along. For his sake I hope that the U20 tournament was a wakeup call, for him and the USSF, that he is not keeping up with his peers. He really should go to Europe where he can get better competition and guidance.

Having said all that. He IS going to Germany with the US. Especially with Ghana chasing him now. Just like Ronaldo 1994.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: morvant on December 12, 2005, 07:54:09 PM
allyuh men blinded by money

fact is in america he will never be a star
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: ribbit on December 12, 2005, 08:04:23 PM
allyuh men blinded by money

fact is in america he will never be a star

morvantman speak trute.

landon donovan is more of "the star" of usa soccer. he turn his back on germany to come back to MLS - that's a real american (chupid too but that someting else).

adu cyah outshine landon donovan in america.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: cm103 on December 13, 2005, 02:02:24 AM
allyuh men blinded by money

fact is in america he will never be a star

morvantman speak trute.

landon donovan is more of "the star" of usa soccer. he turn his back on germany to come back to MLS - that's a real american (chupid too but that someting else).

adu cyah outshine landon donovan in america.

Well it not so much dat he chupid in this regard but more that he couldn't adjust to the European game and couldn't make it there. Leverkusen had him like how Stern is now, out of favor and expendable. He had to go back home or risk playing for reserve teams or riding d bench.

It amazing how when yuh cyah make it outside yuh is a star at home...only in America yes
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: marcovbasten on December 13, 2005, 02:09:10 AM
why such a big thing about this adu guy?

like he makes a difference....pfff.not
 
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: spideybuff on December 13, 2005, 06:07:08 AM
I doh feel Nike will turn his back on him just because he gone to Ghana...the man is still a potential world beater and Nike not that patriotic, especially because Addidas still giving them real stress in the football market. The man face big enough that he doh have to worry about endorsments just yet. That time will come when he turn 18 and people no wonder waiting on potential, if he not performing by then.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: marcovbasten on December 13, 2005, 07:26:17 AM

doesnt matter if and where he plays
he doesnt make an impression
maybe in american standards
but then.....
paris hilton is a star by being a nono
so its logical that adu is a BIG star
pffff....usa losers
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Cantona007 on December 13, 2005, 08:45:52 AM
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Breds there is no guarantee anybody going to make it anywhere,all we talk about are the few that make it but there are hundreds that don't,everybody in this business for personal gains so don't get fooled by some ppl success,everything going on today is chances ppl taking.Only time will tell weather the decisions that Adu make is right or wrong.   
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true there are  no guarantees, but that's life... if you are  thinking of a player's developpment (and not looking for the quick gains), you have to consider and Academy upbringing... the evidence is there of Academy success... if Americans want an example, they need to look at Donovan. You could also argue that a national Association owes their younger players proper Academy-style training, not just quick "monetisation of assets", which is the American way...
Anyway... Adu/American fooball development: not our problem really...
Bless.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: jaden on December 13, 2005, 08:47:42 AM
so bruce arena response is to give adu his first USA senior cap in January......ah read that on skysports
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Filho on December 13, 2005, 09:31:26 AM
Quote from: cm103 link=topic=9191.msg80075#msg80075 date=1134460944

It amazing how when yuh cyah make it outside yuh is a star at home...only in America yes
[quote

Only in America?
Martin Palermo, big star for Boca in Argentina...failed at Villareal, Spain

Edmundo...star in Brazil...failed at Fiorentina

Nuno Gomes...Benfica hero...failed at Fiorentina

Jared Borgetti, biggest striker in Mexico, riding the pine at Bolton

Palencia, Hernandez and Cuatehmoc Blanco...all Mexican superstars who had to return home after failing abroad.

Gary Lineker...never quite shone at Barcelona...Tottenham legend

Paul gascoigne...didn't make it at Lazio...another Tottenham legend

lots more where that came from. happens a lot in football......definitley not an American thing



Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Coop's on December 13, 2005, 09:41:12 AM
Quote from: cm103 link=topic=9191.msg80075#msg80075 date=1134460944

It amazing how when yuh cyah make it outside yuh is a star at home...only in America yes
[quote

Only in America?
Martin Palermo, big star for Boca in Argentina...failed at Villareal, Spain

Edmundo...star in Brazil...failed at Fiorentina

Nuno Gomes...Benfica hero...failed at Fiorentina

Jared Borgetti, biggest striker in Mexico, riding the pine at Bolton

Palencia, Hernandez and Cuatehmoc Blanco...all Mexican superstars who had to return home after failing abroad.

Gary Lineker...never quite shone at Barcelona...Tottenham legend

Paul gascoigne...didn't make it at Lazio...another Tottenham legend

lots more where that came from. happens a lot in football......definitley not an American thing




WELL SAID.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: kicker on December 13, 2005, 10:15:14 AM

It amazing how when yuh cyah make it outside yuh is a star at home...only in America yes

Only in America huh ?

Such strong anti-American senitment from Trinis living in the States is something I just can't understand.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Cantona007 on December 13, 2005, 10:19:19 AM

It amazing how when yuh cyah make it outside yuh is a star at home...only in America yes

Only in America huh ?

Such strong anti-American senitment from Trinis living in the States is something I just can't understand.
It's actualy quite easy to understand....  :beermug:  ;)
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: kicker on December 13, 2005, 10:43:10 AM

It's actualy quite easy to understand....  :beermug:  ;)

A lil' football grudge- fine....I hold a little competitive grudge againt USsoccer myself, but the way I's see some men talkin', is like pure hate.......some of it comin' from men who livin' right here in the U.S..........it lil hypocritical.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: morvant on December 13, 2005, 10:49:01 AM
fire bun america i hate this place

just let meh finish save up and ah goneeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on December 13, 2005, 10:59:18 AM

Only in America?
Martin Palermo, big star for Boca in Argentina...failed at Villareal, Spain

Edmundo...star in Brazil...failed at Fiorentina

Nuno Gomes...Benfica hero...failed at Fiorentina

Jared Borgetti, biggest striker in Mexico, riding the pine at Bolton

Palencia, Hernandez and Cuatehmoc Blanco...all Mexican superstars who had to return home after failing abroad.

Gary Lineker...never quite shone at Barcelona...Tottenham legend

Paul gascoigne...didn't make it at Lazio...another Tottenham legend

lots more where that came from. happens a lot in football......definitley not an American thing


NONSENSE!!
them fellas was already big hardback man when they leave to go to them club, Not to mention the league they leave was bigger leagues that MLS.
Adu is 16 therefore he should be playing with 16 year olds, school boy football. He cyah be fighting up with big men who making they living playing football it eh go work.

The man and he handlers should ah look down the road.
Make ah grap ah money now or humble for ah few years and have endless money and success down the road. I see he chose the former. Cause he eh going nowhere in MLS he had not improved much and though he may be good in practice he have match sharpness cause he on the bench right through.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: ribbit on December 13, 2005, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: cm103 link=topic=9191.msg80075#msg80075 date=1134460944

It amazing how when yuh cyah make it outside yuh is a star at home...only in America yes
[quote

Only in America?
Martin Palermo, big star for Boca in Argentina...failed at Villareal, Spain

Edmundo...star in Brazil...failed at Fiorentina

Nuno Gomes...Benfica hero...failed at Fiorentina

Jared Borgetti, biggest striker in Mexico, riding the pine at Bolton

Palencia, Hernandez and Cuatehmoc Blanco...all Mexican superstars who had to return home after failing abroad.

Gary Lineker...never quite shone at Barcelona...Tottenham legend

Paul gascoigne...didn't make it at Lazio...another Tottenham legend

lots more where that came from. happens a lot in football......definitley not an American thing

Filho, let me understand you comparing going back to Tottenham/Boca Juniors/Benfica and teams in the Brazilian and Mexican Leagues to a return to the ... LA Galaxy? the difference in football standard has to mean something right?
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: kicker on December 13, 2005, 12:39:25 PM

Only in America?
Martin Palermo, big star for Boca in Argentina...failed at Villareal, Spain

Edmundo...star in Brazil...failed at Fiorentina

Nuno Gomes...Benfica hero...failed at Fiorentina

Jared Borgetti, biggest striker in Mexico, riding the pine at Bolton

Palencia, Hernandez and Cuatehmoc Blanco...all Mexican superstars who had to return home after failing abroad.

Gary Lineker...never quite shone at Barcelona...Tottenham legend

Paul gascoigne...didn't make it at Lazio...another Tottenham legend

lots more where that came from. happens a lot in football......definitley not an American thing


NONSENSE!!
them fellas was already big hardback man when they leave to go to them club, Not to mention the league they leave was bigger leagues that MLS.
Adu is 16 therefore he should be playing with 16 year olds, school boy football. He cyah be fighting up with big men who making they living playing football it eh go work.

The man and he handlers should ah look down the road.
Make ah grap ah money now or humble for ah few years and have endless money and success down the road. I see he chose the former. Cause he eh going nowhere in MLS he had not improved much and though he may be good in practice he have match sharpness cause he on the bench right through.


that's not the point disgruntled.....the point is that it's not strictly an "American" thing or "American" mindset, that when you can't make it abroad, you are still a star at home....because all of the above examples are examples of people who are non-American hometown heroes but struggled abroad.......

It's not a comparison to Adu, it's a response to cm103's statement.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on December 13, 2005, 12:46:07 PM

that's not the point disgruntled.....the point is that it's not strictly an "American" thing or "American" mindset, that when you can't make it abroad, you are still a star at home....because all of the above examples are examples of people who are non-American hometown heroes but struggled abroad.......

It's not a comparison to Adu, it's a response to cm103's statement.

all yuh calling ah set ah men who went after they time or to a league not suited to them

Paul gascoigne went after a string of injuries and making an ass of himself in England

Jared Borgetti went to England at he age from the Mexican League to the English league come nuh man

how he really expect that to work
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: kicker on December 13, 2005, 12:48:30 PM

all yuh calling ah set ah men who went after they time or to a league not suited to them

Paul gascoigne went after a string of injuries and making an ass of himself in England

Jared Borgetti went to England at he age from the Mexican League to the English league come nuh man

how he really expect that to work


Whatever the reason, they didn't succeed, they still were considered heroes at home...before and after.....so iz not an American thing..........I think that's what he was trying to say..........
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on December 13, 2005, 01:00:13 PM
but what has Adu done to be considered a hero
the man eh even born they

so that argument holds no water
all he have is potential
and if potential does make yuh ah hero then something wrong

as much as them name all yuh call didnt make it in another league they were good in their own league which is higher than MLS
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Filho on December 13, 2005, 01:02:43 PM

Only in America?
Martin Palermo, big star for Boca in Argentina...failed at Villareal, Spain

Edmundo...star in Brazil...failed at Fiorentina

Nuno Gomes...Benfica hero...failed at Fiorentina

Jared Borgetti, biggest striker in Mexico, riding the pine at Bolton

Palencia, Hernandez and Cuatehmoc Blanco...all Mexican superstars who had to return home after failing abroad.

Gary Lineker...never quite shone at Barcelona...Tottenham legend

Paul gascoigne...didn't make it at Lazio...another Tottenham legend

lots more where that came from. happens a lot in football......definitley not an American thing


NONSENSE!!
them fellas was already big hardback man when they leave to go to them club, Not to mention the league they leave was bigger leagues that MLS.
Adu is 16 therefore he should be playing with 16 year olds, school boy football. He cyah be fighting up with big men who making they living playing football it eh go work.

The man and he handlers should ah look down the road.
Make ah grap ah money now or humble for ah few years and have endless money and success down the road. I see he chose the former. Cause he eh going nowhere in MLS he had not improved much and though he may be good in practice he have match sharpness cause he on the bench right through.


that is not the point I'm making. please take your time and read. i am not comparing these men to Adu nor am I comparing their domestic leagues to MLS. Just saying that many hometown stars are huge in their home countries and do not make an impression abroad. really simple. the phenomenon is not strictly an american one
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Filho on December 13, 2005, 01:08:44 PM
but what has Adu done to be considered a hero
the man eh even born they

so that argument holds no water
all he have is potential
and if potential does make yuh ah hero then something wrong

as much as them name all yuh call didnt make it in another league they were good in their own league which is higher than MLS

i never called him a hero.  and to be honest...the discussion was not even about ADU.  i am replying to someone who likened Landon Donavon to a local soccer hero in the US who failed abroad. Donavon is considered good in his own league.....no? Do you understand it has nothing to do with how good the MLS is or how good Donavon is?.....it has to do with the perception that you could not make it outside of your own league...how good that league is is not relevant to this particular point. I am NOT saying Donavan is as good as the guys on my list. Anyway, you seem more interested in winning an argument than actually having a discussion. I also suggest you get hooked on phonics
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: kicker on December 13, 2005, 01:13:18 PM
but what has Adu done to be considered a hero
the man eh even born they

so that argument holds no water
all he have is potential
and if potential does make yuh ah hero then something wrong

as much as them name all yuh call didnt make it in another league they were good in their own league which is higher than MLS

I think cm103 was making reference to Donovan being a local hero although he didn't do well in Germany............not Adu......and the response was just to point out that it's typical for such a thing to happen.....not just American. There's no justification argument, about whether or not Donovan or Adu should be considered heros..........it's more "even if they are considered heroes, it's typical world wide and not just American"....If you think they shouldn't be heros because they haven't done anything yet, that's another point altogether.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: kicker on December 13, 2005, 01:15:19 PM
but what has Adu done to be considered a hero
the man eh even born they

so that argument holds no water
all he have is potential
and if potential does make yuh ah hero then something wrong

as much as them name all yuh call didnt make it in another league they were good in their own league which is higher than MLS

i never called him a hero.  and to be honest...the discussion was not even about ADU.  i am replying to someone who likened Landon Donavon to a local soccer hero in the US who failed abroad. Donavon is considered good in his own league.....no? Do you understand it has nothing to do with how good the MLS is or how good Donavon is?.....it has to do with the perception that you could not make it outside of your own league...how good that league is is not relevant to this particular point. I am NOT saying Donavan is as good as the guys on my list. Anyway, you seem more interested in winning an argument than actually having a discussion. I also suggest you get hooked on phonics

Ouch....no need for that.....ease up meh boy. The point was lil unclear........
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Filho on December 13, 2005, 01:17:53 PM
but what has Adu done to be considered a hero
the man eh even born they

so that argument holds no water
all he have is potential
and if potential does make yuh ah hero then something wrong

as much as them name all yuh call didnt make it in another league they were good in their own league which is higher than MLS

i never called him a hero.  and to be honest...the discussion was not even about ADU.  i am replying to someone who likened Landon Donavon to a local soccer hero in the US who failed abroad. Donavon is considered good in his own league.....no? Do you understand it has nothing to do with how good the MLS is or how good Donavon is?.....it has to do with the perception that you could not make it outside of your own league...how good that league is is not relevant to this particular point. I am NOT saying Donavan is as good as the guys on my list. Anyway, you seem more interested in winning an argument than actually having a discussion. I also suggest you get hooked on phonics

Ouch....no need for that.....ease up meh boy. The point was lil unclear........

jes' giving him a reason to remain disgruntled
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on December 13, 2005, 01:18:25 PM

I think cm103 was making reference to Donovan being a local hero although he didn't do well in Germany............not Adu......and the response was just to point out that it's typical for such a thing to happen.....not just American. There's no justification argument, about whether or not Donovan or Adu should be considered heros..........it's more "even if they are considered heroes, it's typical world wide and not just American"....If you think they shouldn't be heros because they haven't done anything yet, that's another point altogether.


Donovan to an extent
the man rather be the big fish in ah little pond that try in a big league, talking shit bout he homesick

Adu eh do nothing yet to have any hero status, all the man have is ah good background story

Filho boy.......... a man now play Kofi Annan dey, hard luck
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Filho on December 13, 2005, 02:01:33 PM

I think cm103 was making reference to Donovan being a local hero although he didn't do well in Germany............not Adu......and the response was just to point out that it's typical for such a thing to happen.....not just American. There's no justification argument, about whether or not Donovan or Adu should be considered heros..........it's more "even if they are considered heroes, it's typical world wide and not just American"....If you think they shouldn't be heros because they haven't done anything yet, that's another point altogether.


Donovan to an extent
the man rather be the big fish in ah little pond that try in a big league, talking shit bout he homesick

Adu eh do nothing yet to have any hero status, all the man have is ah good background story

Filho boy.......... a man now play Kofi Annan dey, hard luck

Doh study nuttin'. I does only pelt blade on de site for kix  :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: Marcos on December 13, 2005, 06:27:16 PM
I eh understand dis whole argument nah.
Good Ballers fail at home and abroad.
Donovan shitty so lewwe not talk bout him. Adu is a dece lil yute but not changing the world so lewwe overs him too.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: cm103 on December 13, 2005, 07:46:44 PM
Filho...I stand corrected sir...thank you. I still attribute Donovon's fame to the media hype and the state of the game here rather dan raw talent and skill....but hey, d MLS is what Americans know so leave them to it.

kicker, ah living here for a lil bit cause I now finish school and going back to do a masters after ah work a lil bit. I ent sell meh soul, still fly meh flag so I doh have to agree with everything that go on up here. Even if i back home and it doh sit right ah go say d same ting, it have a word called bobol fuh dat. When ah done here is back home ah going, regardless of d situation cause is there my heart lies.

It have some men who was born here and used to run ball ah was talking to before ah made dat post. Is dem who say dat is only in America yuh could turn a international failure into a local hero as we was talking about d US team. Filho corrected me on dat point...calling me a hypocrite cause ah really doh rate d US game and their stars that high ent really called for.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: kicker on December 13, 2005, 07:54:46 PM
...calling me a hypocrite cause ah really doh rate d US game and their stars that high ent really called for.

I wouldn't call you a hypocrite for not rating Donovan. In fact I wouldn't and didn't call you a hypocrite at all because I don't know you and therefore can't make such a judge of overall character or make a personal attack like that. I made a statement about an attitude in general that I've observed on here....the attitude is what I consider a "little" hypocritical.... re-read:

A lil' football grudge- fine....I hold a little competitive grudge againt USsoccer myself, but the way I's see some men talkin', is like pure hate.......some of it comin' from men who livin' right here in the U.S..........it lil hypocritical.

see the difference ?

respect
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: cm103 on December 13, 2005, 08:05:23 PM
...calling me a hypocrite cause ah really doh rate d US game and their stars that high ent really called for.

I wouldn't call you a hypocrite for not rating Donovan. In fact I wouldn't and didn't call you a hypocrite at all because I don't know you and therefore can't make such a judge of overall character or make a personal attack like that. I made a statement about an attitude in general that I've observed on here....the attitude is what I consider a "little" hypocritical.... re-read:

A lil' football grudge- fine....I hold a little competitive grudge againt USsoccer myself, but the way I's see some men talkin', is like pure hate.......some of it comin' from men who livin' right here in the U.S..........it lil hypocritical.

see the difference ?

respect

Point taken, but i still doh see my attitude as hypocritical as living up here and dis-agreeing with some of the situations up here is pretty democratic. My location has no bearing on my decisions. I didn't rate the MLS or hype over "soccer" up here as anything more than a followup of WC '94 and attempted dominance to boost ratings in another sport, and thats before I came here. I still maintain that stand so my location really has no bearing on this.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: kicker on December 13, 2005, 08:13:11 PM
...calling me a hypocrite cause ah really doh rate d US game and their stars that high ent really called for.

I wouldn't call you a hypocrite for not rating Donovan. In fact I wouldn't and didn't call you a hypocrite at all because I don't know you and therefore can't make such a judge of overall character or make a personal attack like that. I made a statement about an attitude in general that I've observed on here....the attitude is what I consider a "little" hypocritical.... re-read:

A lil' football grudge- fine....I hold a little competitive grudge againt USsoccer myself, but the way I's see some men talkin', is like pure hate.......some of it comin' from men who livin' right here in the U.S..........it lil hypocritical.

see the difference ?

respect

Point taken, but i still doh see my attitude as hypocritical as living up here and dis-agreeing with some of the situations up here is pretty democratic. My location has no bearing on my decisions. I didn't rate the MLS or hype over "soccer" up here as anything more than a followup of WC '94 and attempted dominance to boost ratings in another sport, and thats before I came here. I still maintain that stand so my location really has no bearing on this.

my bad. You are correct.
Title: Re: Ghana Wants Freddy Adu to Play for Them in Germany - Should He?
Post by: cm103 on December 13, 2005, 09:06:11 PM
...calling me a hypocrite cause ah really doh rate d US game and their stars that high ent really called for.

I wouldn't call you a hypocrite for not rating Donovan. In fact I wouldn't and didn't call you a hypocrite at all because I don't know you and therefore can't make such a judge of overall character or make a personal attack like that. I made a statement about an attitude in general that I've observed on here....the attitude is what I consider a "little" hypocritical.... re-read:

A lil' football grudge- fine....I hold a little competitive grudge againt USsoccer myself, but the way I's see some men talkin', is like pure hate.......some of it comin' from men who livin' right here in the U.S..........it lil hypocritical.

see the difference ?

respect

Point taken, but i still doh see my attitude as hypocritical as living up here and dis-agreeing with some of the situations up here is pretty democratic. My location has no bearing on my decisions. I didn't rate the MLS or hype over "soccer" up here as anything more than a followup of WC '94 and attempted dominance to boost ratings in another sport, and thats before I came here. I still maintain that stand so my location really has no bearing on this.

my bad. You are correct.


no scene man.

happy holidays
Title: Freddy Adu chooses the u.s.a.
Post by: saga pinto on December 15, 2005, 11:09:36 AM
Just saw on fsc that bruce arena included him in the training camp,but he insisted is just to look at him it does not automatically give him the green light to play in the world cup with the squad.Yuh know this sound so suspicious it aint funny,because ghana wanted him,they want to shut the door on ghana and like a little shepard he take the bate insisting it was never about ghana.Remember the old saying what goes around comes around,This thing about patriotism to yuh country is amazing to watch when fame and money come into play.   
Title: Re: Freddy Adu chooses the u.s.a.
Post by: Carib-Briton on December 15, 2005, 11:12:04 AM
erm. I think it was obvious that he was gonna choose. U.S.A. If i did go towards Ghana he standard to lose so much and recieve so much(abuse)
Title: Re: Freddy Adu chooses the u.s.a.
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 15, 2005, 11:18:24 AM
Boss that invitation was extended weeks ago.  Besides, Adu was shaped in the US.  Is here where he first played organized soccer.  It have no guarantee that he would have been the same player if he had remained in Ghana. 
Title: Re: Freddy Adu chooses the u.s.a.
Post by: Ponnoxx on December 15, 2005, 12:40:37 PM
 Adu have to leave America now because he will turn out to be a shithound...The best place for him to is Holland or maybe Man U if they want him(they might buy him now becuase the owner Is American) because he could be developed at these places...As for National teams ...He should stick with America because if he was in Ghana ha might not have made it as the star he is today...bUT THEN Again he could have been better ;D
Title: Re: Freddy Adu chooses the u.s.a.
Post by: Filho on December 15, 2005, 01:01:49 PM
Just saw on fsc that bruce arena included him in the training camp,but he insisted is just to look at him it does not automatically give him the green light to play in the world cup with the squad.Yuh know this sound so suspicious it aint funny,because ghana wanted him,they want to shut the door on ghana and like a little shepard he take the bate insisting it was never about ghana.Remember the old saying what goes around comes around,This thing about patriotism to yuh country is amazing to watch when fame and money come into play.   

dread...patriotism?.....you talking like the man leave Ghana volunteerily when he was an adult or something. the man was 8 years old when his mother won the green card Lotto and moved to the US with the family.
Title: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: trinibug on January 23, 2006, 07:51:27 AM

Adu Makes Debut For National Team

By Ridge Mahoney
Special to The Washington Post
Monday, January 23, 2006; E05
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/22/AR2006012201362.html

SAN DIEGO, Jan. 22 -- The debut of Freddy Adu with the U.S. national team will be remembered mostly for his presence, as not much else about a 0-0 tie with Canada was all that noteworthy.

D.C. United's 16-year-old midfielder entered as a substitute for the final 10 minutes, becoming the youngest player in U.S. history to play for the national team. He received a yellow card a few minutes later for diving as he tried to spark a U.S. attack.

"I'm glad to get this first game out of the way," said Adu, whose chances of making the 2006 World Cup team are extremely remote, although this appearance binds him to the U.S. team even though as a native of Ghana he is also eligible to play for that country. "Even though I didn't win the game, I felt I personally made something happen. I tried to get the guys going. It didn't work out to my liking but it was worth a shot. I worked hard and hopefully I can build on it."

Out of competitive action for more than two months -- since playing Scotland to a 1-1 tie in mid-November -- the U.S. team has been training in Southern California since Jan. 4 with more than two dozen players. All but one of them -- defender Heath Pearce, who plays in Denmark -- are employed by MLS. The match is the first of 2006 for the United States leading up to the World Cup, to be held in Germany starting June 9.

Both teams generated numerous chances and the United States finished with a 10-9 edge in shots. Only two from each team required goalkeeper saves, reflecting a lack of polish that belied the hard work many players generated. Canada, one of the U.S. rivals in the CONCACAF region, did not qualify for the World Cup.

Goalkeeper Matt Reis, who was also making his U.S. debut, made two superb saves to deny Canada, which -- like the U.S. -- was lacking most of its players who play for clubs in Europe. Reis rushed out of the penalty area to kick clear a dangerous pass threaded through the U.S. defense by Dwayne De Rosario and later saved a clean shot by De Rosario, one of two Canadian participants in this game who also play in MLS.

Good scoring chances fell to several U.S. players in the first half but the only player to put his attempt on target was Frankie Hejduk, who pounced on a clearance and drilled a low shot that goalie Greg Sutton pushed aside.

Coach Bruce Arena used several substitutes in the second half, and after coming on, Adu received a pass from Chris Klein in the Canadian penalty area with only defender Adam Braz to beat. He cut the ball past Braz and tripped as he burst past him. Rather than call for a penalty kick, referee Bruno Archundia ruled there was no foul by the defender and instead issued Adu a yellow card.

"Probably anywhere else on the field that's a foul," said Adu. "There was contact, I was off-balance and I went down. The ref's in a tough spot. Either he calls for a penalty kick or gives me a yellow card. But at that point, why not?"
© 2006 The Washington Post Company
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: Trini _2026 on January 23, 2006, 08:04:36 AM
Player to Watch: Much ado about Freddy
23 January 2006
by FIFAworldcup.com




It seems Freddy Adu is living life in fast-forward.
In 2003, aged barely 13 and just three weeks after receiving full US citizenship, the youngster was inspiring gasps of disbelief at the FIFA U-17 World Championship in Finland. In the shadow of a giant ski jump in Lahti, Adu's first contribution of the USA's opening match against Korea Republic was to round four defenders and the goalkeeper before tapping home.

Now, at the ripe old age of 16 - and still eligible for the U-17, U-20 and U-23 national teams - the young dribbling wizard from DC United finds himself pressing hard for a spot in Bruce Arena's senior national team for the FIFA World Cup™ in Germany.

Adu turns 17 one week before the USA's opening finals game against the Czech Republic in Gelsenkirchen, meaning that he could become the youngest player in FIFA World Cup finals history. And with 23 spots up for grabs, Adu – who honed his sumptuous skills playing barefoot against grown men in the streets of Tema in his native Ghana – is desperate to somehow force his way into Arena's plans.

Adu made his international debut as a substitute in the USA's goalless draw with Canada on 22 January, having been selected for the start-of-year training camp in California. Prior to handing Adu his first cap, however, US head coach Arena – not known for extravagant flights of fancy or unnecessary risk taking – tried to put the situation into perspective.

"He's not a starter on his club team," Arena told reporters. "And you're asking where he stands on making a World Cup roster. Without me giving you a prognosis, I'll let you figure that out. Is he a long shot? Is he a definite? I'll let you figure it out."




Fair enough. The player – who only two years ago featured in FIFA World Championships at both Junior (U-17) and Youth (U-20) level – has had his share of difficulties making the transition to the professional game. Expectations surrounding the youngster have always been incongruously high; he was long touted as the saviour of football in the USA, even drawing careless comparisons to Pele.
Coming into Major League Soccer at just 14 years old - thus becoming the youngest pro athlete in the US for over a century - Adu was expected to produce immediately. Not only was he the youngest player in the fledgling league, he was also its highest-paid – MLS having negotiated a 500,000 USD per year deal in order to stop him heading to one of the high-profile European clubs who were said to be monitoring this precocious talent.

Once installed at DC United, MLS began to use Adu's grinning image to sell tickets all over the US. Everyone had heard of this remarkable young phenom and many came out to see him play when DC United came to their town. But with a highly professional coach in former Poland captain Peter Nowak, Adu still had some lessons to learn and was used largely as a substitute in his first season.

Still, he scored five goals and was named in the league's all-star team as DC United claimed their fourth MLS championship in 2004. Adu's form improved in his second season and he looked to have found a home playing behind the strikers – although he was still used largely as a back-up.



Dreaming of Germany
Adu may have not matched some of the unrealistic expectations placed on his shoulders in his first two seasons as a pro but the player is keen to haul himself into Arena's squad for this summer's finals and maintain his meteoric development. "Half the team is already sorted out with the European-based guys," Adu told reporters at the start of the January camp. "Realistically, there are maybe two of three spots left on the team. It's definitely a long way to make this team, but you know what? I'm not worried. I'm not going to try to compete with other players. I'm going to focus on doing what I need to do to help the team that I'm on."
Arena has described Adu as "a player who can go around a defender by himself" – a rarity in the team according to the coach - yet a place in the USA's final 23 could still prove a stretch for the teenage sensation.

However, he is at least in with a shout. Having declined the chance to switch allegiances to Ghana, Adu's debut appearance as a late substitute against Canada confirmed him as the youngest international in US football history at 16 years and 234 days of age. Now his target is to set a similar record at the FIFA World Cup but whether or not June brings a trip to Germany, he looks set to be inspiring headlines and heavy interest for a long time to come
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: Carib-Briton on January 23, 2006, 08:11:26 AM
Oh well Ghana. I hope you do well later on today. 1hour exact.
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: skins on January 23, 2006, 08:47:57 AM
Oh well. US cap Adu now. I guess that should kill the speculation and but it to bed that he might play for ghana in world cup
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: MickeyRat on January 23, 2006, 10:38:47 AM
Looking at Canada's uniform (Adidas), the red looks quite similar to ours.
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: Andre on January 23, 2006, 10:40:25 AM
i know the USSF was going to do this. see mih old posts. they want to trap freddy. also, why we not playing friendlies with our locally-based warriors. some of them will feature in germany.
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: Peong on January 23, 2006, 11:37:57 AM
Trap Freddie?  You feel he wanted to play for Ghana?
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: Grande on January 23, 2006, 11:41:01 AM
Looking at Canada's uniform (Adidas), the red looks quite similar to ours.

is pretty much de same ting except for the TTFF logo
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: skins on January 23, 2006, 11:45:50 AM
Trap Freddie? You feel he wanted to play for Ghana?

You could never tell. I sure Zamora and Samuel would laugh and tell you four years ago they ain't kicking a ball for trini. Look at them now they realise they can't make england world cup squad so they want to play for trini. In Adu case next four to eight years if for some reason he can't make US team and he could play on Ghana world cup team he might then want to switch federation but it might be too late beause the USA cap him.
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: Tenorsaw on January 23, 2006, 12:24:31 PM
Now he lock up. American ball ho for life.
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: TrinInfinite on January 23, 2006, 12:36:21 PM
oh gosh, dat is terrible news, de man sell out he nation and where he born, he shoulda play for ghana, ghana is a rising football power in africa
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: weary1969 on January 23, 2006, 08:44:41 PM
The under 21 rule he has some time to change his mind
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: weary1969 on January 23, 2006, 09:28:59 PM
He could make the yankee $ and play for Ghana. I cyah see them cancelling the contract if he plays for Ghana. If he as good as they want to make out some EPL team will take in the near future.
Title: Re: Adu Makes Debut For National Team
Post by: Jumbie on January 24, 2006, 06:40:32 AM
couple things... ah sure Freddy's Mom had a reason for coming to north america, so if he can give back to his new home and wants to..so be it. 2nd.. did freddy make improvements to his game/ability in the US or in Ghana? If the fella making he coins in the US, they nuturing his development, his family living well etc..then let the man paly for who he choose to.

Title: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: truthseeker on February 06, 2006, 08:32:46 PM
Much Adu about £5m as Chelsea close the net on teenage prodigy
By Oliver Kay
 
 
 
CHELSEA are about to send more shock waves through the football world by beating Manchester United to secure the services of Freddy Adu, the American teenager widely regarded as the most exciting young player on the planet.
United and several top clubs in Italy and Spain have been tracking Adu for four years, but Chelsea’s negotiations are at an advanced stage. Agreements are imminent with the player and Major League Soccer (MLS), which owns his registration. The 16-year-old forward is expected to move to London in the summer, by which time he hopes to have become the youngest player to feature in a World Cup tournament, a record set by Norman Whiteside when he played for Northern Ireland in 1982.

 
 
It is a deal that will underline Chelsea’s continuing bid for global domination by signing the stars of tomorrow as well as today. They are also hoping to beat United in a bitter wrangle over John Obi Mikel, the outstanding young Nigeria midfield player, and the news that they are close to securing the services of Adu, who made his debut for DC United aged 14 and won his first full cap for the US last month at 16 years 234 days, will cause consternation in Milan and Madrid but above all in Manchester, where Sir Alex Ferguson had dreams of adding the Ghanaian-born prodigy to his legacy.

Sources at Stamford Bridge say that the initial outlay will be about £5 million for a player who, if successful, could bring Chelsea enormous commercial benefits in Africa as well as the US. It is possible that José Mourinho, the Chelsea manager, would send him on loan to pick up first-team experience, but the club want him to move immediately after the World Cup and are hopeful that a work permit will be granted on appeal, even if the first application is likely to be rejected on grounds of inexperience.

Neither Chelsea nor MLS would comment last night, while one of Adu’s agents, Dan Segal, of SportsNet LLC, declined to confirm that the youngster was heading for England. “All I would like to say at this stage is that Freddy has obviously attracted a lot of interest internationally,” Segal said. “We are mindful of the fact that he will turn 17 in the summer. At this stage, nothing has truly been decided.”

Chelsea, though, believe that the deal is all but done, even if they are prepared to allow MLS to dictate the timing of any announcement. The new MLS campaign starts soon and the loss of Adu, the country’s most celebrated player, may come as an even bigger blow to the league than to DC United, although his departure to one of Europe’s biggest clubs should enhance the sport’s profile in America, particularly if he has an impact on this summer’s World Cup.

MLS has long been resigned to losing Adu. Chelsea’s management team met him for the first time during a pre-season tour of the US in July 2004 and invited him and his mother to their game against AC Milan in New York. Last summer he played against Chelsea for DC United in a friendly in Washington and said that “hopefully one day I can end up playing with those guys rather than against them. They’re my favourite team in the world.”

Should Adu get his wish, it would be another remarkable development in the life of a boy who moved to the US from Ghana at the age of 8 after his mother won a Green Card lottery. His talents came to the attention of the US Olympic Development Programme and the MLS as well as to Nike, the sportswear company, which made him its youngest blue-chip client.

Manchester United hoped that their links with Nike might give them the upper hand in negotiations, but Chelsea, not for the first time, appear to have beaten them to the punch.
 
 
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: Feliziano on February 06, 2006, 09:06:24 PM
yeah stick his arse in the reserves till 2010..hopefully everybody go forget bout he..steups
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: skins on February 06, 2006, 09:07:48 PM
I wonder who best player now born in 1989. Fredy Adu, Theo Walcott or Giovanni Dos Santos
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: truthseeker on February 06, 2006, 09:30:12 PM
All dem fellas real good and wiill be real tears in time. if the report is true ah real disappointed in Adu. Man Utd or Assnal would have been better teams to go to to help with his development. They have a proven track record at bringing youngsters into the squad. But ah guess dollars talk and everything else suck salt...
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: Mr Mc on February 06, 2006, 09:52:18 PM
The US cap his ass and send him back to DC United, they lucky, otherwise some of them africans in Europe might have convinced him to play for Ghana after he get a taste of real football.
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: Preacher on February 06, 2006, 09:52:27 PM
Any way better than the MLS for he.  First ticket pass he should grab it.  He young he could afford to spend two years at a bad club...
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: skins on February 06, 2006, 10:02:20 PM
I was looking for a link where i saw a comp of these three players.

http://www.soccerfanatics.net/soccervideo/misc_2765809l.wmv.html

I find Santos style resemble those of Ronaldinhno. He like a clone
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: SHOTTA on February 06, 2006, 10:21:19 PM
SOURCE PLEASE?????
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 07, 2006, 04:26:46 AM
anybody man ut d wants chelsea suddenly wants them too


 assholes
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: rastafari on February 07, 2006, 07:02:59 AM
He wants to play for Chelsea, but he is not playing much international football.

This youth probably has some greedy, foolish people around him.

You cannot play in England without getting a work permit and 75% international caps.

So it would have made sense to represent Ghana and forget about the USA if he wants a work permit.


JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: JDB on February 07, 2006, 07:22:24 AM
He wants to play for Chelsea, but he is not playing much international football.

This youth probably has some greedy, foolish people around him.

You cannot play in England without getting a work permit and 75% international caps.

So it would have made sense to represent Ghana and forget about the USA if he wants a work permit.


JAH BLESS RASTAFARI

Work permit rules do not apply to U-21 players I believe, certainly not academy and youth players.
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: Ponnoxx on February 07, 2006, 07:56:10 AM
He wants to play for Chelsea, but he is not playing much international football.

This youth probably has some greedy, foolish people around him.

You cannot play in England without getting a work permit and 75% international caps.

So it would have made sense to represent Ghana and forget about the USA if he wants a work permit.


JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
Those work permit restrictions does hinge on what place yuh country rank too..So I think Adu is safe...He should leave MLS...It is about time..MLS was making him complacent... What Adu needs to do is take the contract and go to Chelsea and work hard to get into the Starting line up...
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: rastafari on February 07, 2006, 07:57:37 AM
It is possible that José Mourinho, the Chelsea manager, would send him on loan to pick up first-team experience, but the club want him to move immediately after the World Cup and are hopeful that a work permit will be granted on appeal, even if the first application is likely to be rejected on grounds of inexperience.

Read my friend.

JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: Cantona007 on February 07, 2006, 08:31:46 AM
Fire Bun Chelski. Bad move, Freddy boy... compete on the reserve team with the 100 other Chelski hopefuls. A move to Sc**thorpe United is in  your future.
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 07, 2006, 09:46:27 AM
Greedy mother f**ks.  They want every body and they mother.  Cyar leave the youths in peace.
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: Andre on February 07, 2006, 10:10:48 AM
business move.

chelski need to sell a heap of $80 US jersey in america to overcome the mega losses they incur last year.

i wish de youth the best though. he need to leave america and get away from the pressure and unreasonable expectations.
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: Observer on February 07, 2006, 10:27:25 AM
Right now I woud say Walcott better than Adu and DeSantos, but only time will tell.
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: Coop's on February 07, 2006, 10:55:27 AM
Is this the same Freddy Adu that people saying are no good,all i want to say is that who handleing this kids future have his best interest at heart.
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: Andre on February 07, 2006, 10:56:42 AM
Is this the same Freddy Adu that people saying are no good,all i want to say is that who handleing this kids future have his best interest at heart.

no sports agent/agency have any concern other than maximizing profit. is all business.
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: Coop's on February 07, 2006, 11:00:00 AM
Is this the same Freddy Adu that people saying are no good,all i want to say is that who handleing this kids future have his best interest at heart.

no sports agent/agency have any concern other than maximizing profit. is all business.
Agreed you are absolutely correct it's all part of the deal,business as usual.
Title: Re: London Times: Adu to Chelski
Post by: spideybuff on February 08, 2006, 08:28:34 AM
All dem fellas real good and wiill be real tears in time. if the report is true ah real disappointed in Adu. Man Utd or Assnal would have been better teams to go to to help with his development. They have a proven track record at bringing youngsters into the squad. But ah guess dollars talk and everything else suck salt...

Frank Arnesen is considered the best in the world at locating and developing young talent. he was at PSV for Van Nisterooy and found Ronaldo as well...that is why Cheski stole him from Spurs, to concentrate on that part of the organisation while Mourinho focuses on the senior team.
In other words...Chelski plan to be the best at everything at every level so we cah say that manu and arsenal better at producing young talent until chelsea first batch of youths come through in the next couple of years...
Title: No Adu deal in offering for Manchester United
Post by: Andre on February 13, 2006, 11:13:36 AM
well MLS UK/Fulham FFC could be an option.
 
February 13, 2006
MANCHESTER, England (Ticker) - Sir Alex Ferguson has insisted Manchester United is not attempting to sign American teenager Freddy Adu.

The 16-year-old long has been tipped for stardom and is hoping to force his way into the United States' World Cup squad this summer before making a move to one of the major European leagues in time for next season.

Chelsea is believed to be monitoring Adu's progress in Major League Soccer with D.C. United, while the teenager's agent, Richard Motzkin, claimed on Sunday that United was interested in luring him to the Premiership as well.
 
Ferguson admits Red Devils officials have watched Adu but he declared there is no immediate chance of the youngster joining United.

"We are not interested in Freddie Adu," the Scot told MUTV. "We have watched him as a youngster, but there is no interest in him at the moment."

Any attempt to sign Adu would have to go through MLS, which owns Adu's contract - and there would be an obvious difficulty in securing a U.K. work permit for a player who only recently has been capped by his country.
 
Title: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: triniairman on June 23, 2006, 11:54:52 PM
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American teenage sensation Freddy Adu has hinted he may play his international football for Ghana instead of USA.

The DC United midfielder is still eligible to play for both countries, despite appearing for United States against Canada in a friendly in January.

However, as the match was not sanctioned by Fifa, he has still yet to officially make his international debut and therefore could choose to play for Ghana instead of USA.

Speaking after The Black Stars' win over USA on Thursday, Adu admitted he was supporting both nations during the game as he has aspirations to be taking part in the 2010 finals for one of the two countries.

"I really honestly didn't lean one way. I was born and raised in Ghana, I moved here and am an American citizen," Adu told ESPN's Pardon the Interruption.

"I had said in several interviews that I was gonna play for USA but I haven't got the chance to do that yet so when you really think about it, I can't go against either team.

"Hopefully in 2010 I will be on the World Cup team, I don't know if it will be for the US or Ghana because I haven't got a chance to play for either team.

"I love Ghana and I love the United States and I'm torn right down the middle so we'll see and hopefully in the near future I get a chance to play for either the US or Ghana and hopefully I make the right decision."

Adu was pencilled in by USA coach Bruce Arena as an outside possibility to go to the World Cup finals after participating in a training camp with the entire squad earlier this year.

After seeing Arena's men first-hand, the 17-year-old admits he was surprised at their failure to reach the second round, but believes Ghana's progress will give a huge boost to his native land.

"I went to camp with the team for a couple of weeks and this team was good, I actually thought the US team was going to be one of the fittest teams at the tournament, the guys were fit and ready to go," he continued.

"I was really surprised that we didn't get a better outcome but like I said, I was born and raised in Ghana so I'm glad that Ghana are going through.

"I don't know if I can put it into words how important it is [to the people of Ghana].

"It's so important on so many levels, for the whole country. Thursday was pretty much a national holiday in Ghana. The whole country was watching and it seems we weren't just doing it for Ghana, we were doing it for the whole of Africa."

Meanwhile, Adu has confirmed he could leave the United States to join a club abroad as soon as the end of the current MLS season.

"I will be going overseas," he added. "That's my goal, I will be going overseas."

All of Europe's top clubs have been linked with signing Adu, with Chelsea and Manchester United among the favourites to capture the starlet.

With the current MLS season well underway, Adu could be available to move to Europe during next year's January transfer window.

THEY SHOULD BLANK HIM CAUSE HE WANTED TO PLAY FOR THE U.S AND DID NOT GET PICK FOR THE WC NOW HE WANT TO PLAY FOR GHANA CAUSE THEY DOING GOOD.                                                           http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=397717&CPID=219&clid=1219&lid=2&title=Adu+hints+at+Ghana+option
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Trinimassive on June 24, 2006, 02:11:59 AM
What ah two faced bastard

He totally blank Ghana when they tell him he WILL be on the World Cup team if he chooses Ghana. He say NO he want to make the US National Team. He had ah chance to play with Essien and refuse.
That is just selfish. No loyalty. Now he pretending that he care about Ghana. They woulda roll out the red carpet fuh he ass now he should get shot with the shit gun.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: E-man on June 24, 2006, 05:08:57 AM
That's the biggest piece of fence sitting I've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: marcpurcell on June 24, 2006, 05:15:50 AM
Ghana:"f**k off!"
USA:"f**k off!"
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Dinner Mints on June 24, 2006, 05:41:21 AM
Ahm... allyuh realize he a teenager, right? And he was a even younger teenager when he make his decision. God forbid somebody gain insight and wisdom as they age. God forbid they reevaluate the choices they made at 16. Lord knows Shaka shouldn't be keepin for we den.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Filho on June 24, 2006, 05:56:02 AM
Only an idiot will jump on a 17 year old for changing his mind. People...he's a youth who getting pressure from both sides. At his age, we couldn't make up our mind which party to go to Saturday night...like we forget how many mistakes and bad decisions we made as teenagers. How often we changed our minds about things and how we learned from our mistakes without the scrutiny of the press. Come on man. PLUS....To try and guess what his real feelings and loyalties , just because we read some edited articles is real BS. We read stuff in the press and act all judgemental. I have been interviewd before and was completely stunned how what I thought I said and what as broadcast were unbeleivable different. The context in which certain things were said were almost completely removed due to editing...so let us get off our high horses and chill. I laugh everytime we jump on a player for a line in an intervierw...not knowing that what he said could easily have been an entire paragraph from which one line was pulled out and published. Adu has dual nationality, he is young and he getting real pressure form both sides. Right now he sounds like USA is still is first choice, but if they blank him in 2010, he will exercise his option to play for Ghana...if they still want him. We don't know the boy...we don't know who is advising him...we don't know what it is like to be in his shoes.....He seems like a decent youth to me who still not sure what he is about. Remember he has been completely Americanized by his upbringing...but seeing Ghana in the WC may have been the right tonic to bring him back some pride in his roots. Let's just wait and see where he takes it from there.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Filho on June 24, 2006, 05:58:39 AM
Ahm... allyuh realize he a teenager, right? And he was a even younger teenager when he make his decision. God forbid somebody gain insight and wisdom as they age. God forbid they reevaluate the choices they made at 16. Lord knows Shaka shouldn't be keepin for we den.

Lord have mercy..some common sense. 
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Cocorite on June 24, 2006, 07:08:50 AM
Alright fellas we jumping on man back for "criticizing" Adu's ambivalence. And while it is true that there should be a call for "understanding", do we have innsinuate that man stupit or lack sense. Why we Trinis so?

I would not like to be in Adu's shoes. On the one hand the US is probably bribing him with all kinda ting. But home is home. Pressure from parents, coach, big clubs etc.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Coop's on June 24, 2006, 07:21:04 AM
I just have a question for some of the posters here,how many of you feel that Adu could have made that Ghana team?  

      The consensus of most is that he not ready for the MLS,DC United have him on the bench and he should not complain.In my opinion that Utd Coach is a dunce.

       This kid is in a unique position,he has lots of options,lets hope who ever is advising his family does a good job and do what's best for him,nobody knows what the future holds.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Dinner Mints on June 24, 2006, 07:26:16 AM
The consensus of most is that he not ready for the MLS,DC United have him on the bench and he should not complain.In my opinion that Utd Coach is a dunce.
He not on de bench no more. He's a definite starter for DC United now. In fact, he's one of de key players in midfield.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Coop's on June 24, 2006, 07:38:08 AM
The consensus of most is that he not ready for the MLS,DC United have him on the bench and he should not complain.In my opinion that Utd Coach is a dunce.
He not on de bench no more. He's a definite starter for DC United now. In fact, he's one of de key players in midfield.
        Breds thanks for updating me,is time that Coach stop playing the fool with that kid,the boy have talent he will not improve on the bench,he should be starting long time,on a lighter note he is the drawing card for all who goes to see DC Utd.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Trinimassive on June 24, 2006, 08:33:56 AM
Oh please....save the 16 yr old BS

Jlloyd Samuel is ah hard back man. Zamora is ah hard back man.  Kalou ent 16 yrs old.

Freddy making the same decision as men, playing with men, thinking like men, sounding like ah man...but when he talkin like that people say he is ah child. Well the list is long of hard back men who make choices that are selfish. It has nothing to do with being a child.

The fella and he "advisors" been making grown up decisions all along BUT  when they say wow look at the publicity that Ghana getting and the love they getting he want to jump ship...not as a kid...but as a MAN.  Yuh doh need to be no child to realize that. 

Allyuh ent read the papers in America and in T&T. 16 yr old fellas raping, killing, robbing, thiefing and some even going to medical school.  Guess what MEN do the same thing.

He ent thinking as no child He thinking as ah man. And the fact remains that he turn them down...for the World Cup and the Nation's Cup just like we get turn down too.


Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Coop's on June 24, 2006, 08:55:13 AM
Oh please....save the 16 yr old BS

Jlloyd Samuel is ah hard back man. Zamora is ah hard back man.  Kalou ent 16 yrs old.

Freddy making the same decision as men, playing with men, thinking like men, sounding like ah man...but when he talkin like that people say he is ah child. Well the list is long of hard back men who make choices that are selfish. It has nothing to do with being a child.

The fella and he "advisors" been making grown up decisions all along BUT  when they say wow look at the publicity that Ghana getting and the love they getting he want to jump ship...not as a kid...but as a MAN.  Yuh doh need to be no child to realize that. 

Allyuh ent read the papers in America and in T&T. 16 yr old fellas raping, killing, robbing, thiefing and some even going to medical school.  Guess what MEN do the same thing.

He ent thinking as no child He thinking as ah man. And the fact remains that he turn them down...for the World Cup and the Nation's Cup just like we get turn down too.



         Do sixteen year olds drive?do they hang or give them the electric chair?
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Trinimassive on June 24, 2006, 09:03:08 AM
Oh please....save the 16 yr old BS

Jlloyd Samuel is ah hard back man. Zamora is ah hard back man.  Kalou ent 16 yrs old.

Freddy making the same decision as men, playing with men, thinking like men, sounding like ah man...but when he talkin like that people say he is ah child. Well the list is long of hard back men who make choices that are selfish. It has nothing to do with being a child.

The fella and he "advisors" been making grown up decisions all along BUT  when they say wow look at the publicity that Ghana getting and the love they getting he want to jump ship...not as a kid...but as a MAN.  Yuh doh need to be no child to realize that. 

Allyuh ent read the papers in America and in T&T. 16 yr old fellas raping, killing, robbing, thiefing and some even going to medical school.  Guess what MEN do the same thing.

He ent thinking as no child He thinking as ah man. And the fact remains that he turn them down...for the World Cup and the Nation's Cup just like we get turn down too.



         Do sixteen year olds drive?do they hang or give them the electric chair?

Coops ah doh know when last yuh been to Trini eh but I driving "ON THE ROAD" since ah was 14.

In America yuh could divorce yuh parents even before 16. 

Hanging and electric chair have nothing to do with it...matter of fact MOST countries don't legalize killing they own people...no matter the age 
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Dinner Mints on June 24, 2006, 09:41:26 AM
Oh please....save the 16 yr old BS

Jlloyd Samuel is ah hard back man. Zamora is ah hard back man.  Kalou ent 16 yrs old.

Freddy making the same decision as men, playing with men, thinking like men, sounding like ah man...but when he talkin like that people say he is ah child. Well the list is long of hard back men who make choices that are selfish. It has nothing to do with being a child.

The fella and he "advisors" been making grown up decisions all along BUT  when they say wow look at the publicity that Ghana getting and the love they getting he want to jump ship...not as a kid...but as a MAN.  Yuh doh need to be no child to realize that. 

Allyuh ent read the papers in America and in T&T. 16 yr old fellas raping, killing, robbing, thiefing and some even going to medical school.  Guess what MEN do the same thing.

He ent thinking as no child He thinking as ah man. And the fact remains that he turn them down...for the World Cup and the Nation's Cup just like we get turn down too.




I a man. I doh think bout rape and murder. Neither do any ah de men I know. Young people killing and rapin mean dey thinkin like men? Nah. Seem to me dey thinkin like young people makin stupid choices without wisdom. Say what yuh want, but the fact remains dat de teenage brain is not yet fully-developed.

There's a reason de FIFA deadline is age 21. FIFA (unlike you) realize dat young people don't often make decisions wit insight. FIFA (unlike you) is willing to let youngsters mature and live and develop as people.

Maybe you was a exceptional youth, but I didn't know what de hell I wanted at 17. Most ah we eh even know at 20. Even when we thought we did. So if de youth confuse about two different countries pullin him. If he have difficulty dealin with being under pressure and scrutiny since 14. If he say one ting yesterday and change he mine tomorrow. I willin to give him some room to grow.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: trini supporter on June 24, 2006, 10:05:41 AM
Adu just see that playing for the U.S.A is not making any sense so the man want to try Ghana
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Trinimassive on June 24, 2006, 10:09:42 AM
Oh please....save the 16 yr old BS

Jlloyd Samuel is ah hard back man. Zamora is ah hard back man.  Kalou ent 16 yrs old.

Freddy making the same decision as men, playing with men, thinking like men, sounding like ah man...but when he talkin like that people say he is ah child. Well the list is long of hard back men who make choices that are selfish. It has nothing to do with being a child.

The fella and he "advisors" been making grown up decisions all along BUT  when they say wow look at the publicity that Ghana getting and the love they getting he want to jump ship...not as a kid...but as a MAN.  Yuh doh need to be no child to realize that. 

Allyuh ent read the papers in America and in T&T. 16 yr old fellas raping, killing, robbing, thiefing and some even going to medical school.  Guess what MEN do the same thing.

He ent thinking as no child He thinking as ah man. And the fact remains that he turn them down...for the World Cup and the Nation's Cup just like we get turn down too.




I a man. I doh think bout rape and murder. Neither do any ah de men I know. Young people killing and rapin mean dey thinkin like men? Nah. Seem to me dey thinkin like young people makin stupid choices without wisdom. Say what yuh want, but the fact remains dat de teenage brain is not yet fully-developed.

There's a reason de FIFA deadline is age 21. FIFA (unlike you) realize dat young people don't often make decisions wit insight. FIFA (unlike you) is willing to let youngsters mature and live and develop as people.

Maybe you was a exceptional youth, but I didn't know what de hell I wanted at 17. Most ah we eh even know at 20. Even when we thought we did. So if de youth confuse about two different countries pullin him. If he have difficulty dealin with being under pressure and scrutiny since 14. If he say one ting yesterday and change he mine tomorrow. I willin to give him some room to grow.

Age is relative breds. FIFA say 21....most states say yuh cyah drink until 21 BUT yuh could KILL people at 17 legally.

Go to the Army to be all yuh could be at 17 or 18 and see if they ent grab yuh and put ah gun in yuh hand.

My point is that whether 16 or 26 or 36 or more.....people are people. The brain develops based on many factors and age has the least to do with it.

Ah 30 year old couldn't survive in the Amazon if they from the city....BUT ah bet ah 16 year old from the Amazon could. And vice versa.  

He doing the same thing that adults before him and after him will do.  His age has nothing to do with it.  He IS thinking like a MAN....that fella use to talk like he more American than Apple Pie.  Wouldn't be surprised if he start wearing Dashiki and beating drum :devil:
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: saga pinto on June 24, 2006, 10:19:13 AM
Oh please....save the 16 yr old BS

Jlloyd Samuel is ah hard back man. Zamora is ah hard back man.  Kalou ent 16 yrs old.

Freddy making the same decision as men, playing with men, thinking like men, sounding like ah man...but when he talkin like that people say he is ah child. Well the list is long of hard back men who make choices that are selfish. It has nothing to do with being a child.

The fella and he "advisors" been making grown up decisions all along BUT  when they say wow look at the publicity that Ghana getting and the love they getting he want to jump ship...not as a kid...but as a MAN.  Yuh doh need to be no child to realize that. 

Allyuh ent read the papers in America and in T&T. 16 yr old fellas raping, killing, robbing, thiefing and some even going to medical school.  Guess what MEN do the same thing.

He ent thinking as no child He thinking as ah man. And the fact remains that he turn them down...for the World Cup and the Nation's Cup just like we get turn down too.



         Do sixteen year olds drive?do they hang or give them the electric chair?

But within 2 years they could enlist in the army to fight wars,and that's in america for other countries it's even younger,yet still in america they cyah drink alcohol,What's your point? 
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Ngozi on June 24, 2006, 10:21:08 AM
if I was ghana i would have blanked his ass he sounding like a waggonist...he made his choise he just didnt make the team...ghana was giving him all the options
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Coop's on June 24, 2006, 10:37:56 AM
Oh please....save the 16 yr old BS

Jlloyd Samuel is ah hard back man. Zamora is ah hard back man.  Kalou ent 16 yrs old.

Freddy making the same decision as men, playing with men, thinking like men, sounding like ah man...but when he talkin like that people say he is ah child. Well the list is long of hard back men who make choices that are selfish. It has nothing to do with being a child.

The fella and he "advisors" been making grown up decisions all along BUT  when they say wow look at the publicity that Ghana getting and the love they getting he want to jump ship...not as a kid...but as a MAN.  Yuh doh need to be no child to realize that. 

Allyuh ent read the papers in America and in T&T. 16 yr old fellas raping, killing, robbing, thiefing and some even going to medical school.  Guess what MEN do the same thing.

He ent thinking as no child He thinking as ah man. And the fact remains that he turn them down...for the World Cup and the Nation's Cup just like we get turn down too.



         Do sixteen year olds drive?do they hang or give them the electric chair?

Coops ah doh know when last yuh been to Trini eh but I driving "ON THE ROAD" since ah was 14.

In America yuh could divorce yuh parents even before 16. 

Hanging and electric chair have nothing to do with it...matter of fact MOST countries don't legalize killing they own people...no matter the age 
        In America it have six year old driving is it legal,does that make it right,are they mature enough to do so,does that make them men/women.   
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Trinimassive on June 24, 2006, 10:52:39 AM
Oh please....save the 16 yr old BS

Jlloyd Samuel is ah hard back man. Zamora is ah hard back man.  Kalou ent 16 yrs old.

Freddy making the same decision as men, playing with men, thinking like men, sounding like ah man...but when he talkin like that people say he is ah child. Well the list is long of hard back men who make choices that are selfish. It has nothing to do with being a child.

The fella and he "advisors" been making grown up decisions all along BUT  when they say wow look at the publicity that Ghana getting and the love they getting he want to jump ship...not as a kid...but as a MAN.  Yuh doh need to be no child to realize that. 

Allyuh ent read the papers in America and in T&T. 16 yr old fellas raping, killing, robbing, thiefing and some even going to medical school.  Guess what MEN do the same thing.

He ent thinking as no child He thinking as ah man. And the fact remains that he turn them down...for the World Cup and the Nation's Cup just like we get turn down too.



         Do sixteen year olds drive?do they hang or give them the electric chair?

Coops ah doh know when last yuh been to Trini eh but I driving "ON THE ROAD" since ah was 14.

In America yuh could divorce yuh parents even before 16. 

Hanging and electric chair have nothing to do with it...matter of fact MOST countries don't legalize killing they own people...no matter the age 
        In America it have six year old driving is it legal,does that make it right,are they mature enough to do so,does that make them men/women.   

Coops yuh grasping at anything now.  We not talking about anything to do with legality or right/wrong issue.  This is a GAME and at 16 in a GAME yuh could more than make MAN decisions. It have 14 year olds that right now that are game programmers.  They are more than capable of making decisions that they deem "GOOD FOR THE GAME" and adults will not only respect their decisions BUT implement them.  Give the fella credit...we not talking about whether he should press the NUKE Button.

We talking about a GAME in which he is contemplating doing just as Jlloyd Samuel, Zamora, Kalou, and many others. Why is his age an excuse ???

Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: andre samuel on June 24, 2006, 11:00:22 AM
Ahm... allyuh realize he a teenager, right? And he was a even younger teenager when he make his decision. God forbid somebody gain insight and wisdom as they age. God forbid they reevaluate the choices they made at 16. Lord knows Shaka shouldn't be keepin for we den.

this is such a good post, well said pal!!
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: marcpurcell on June 24, 2006, 11:03:58 AM
My bad. I forgot how old Adu is rightnow. I would be torn myself. I hope he considers his decision very carefully.

Marc
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Coop's on June 24, 2006, 11:05:25 AM
Oh please....save the 16 yr old BS

Jlloyd Samuel is ah hard back man. Zamora is ah hard back man.  Kalou ent 16 yrs old.

Freddy making the same decision as men, playing with men, thinking like men, sounding like ah man...but when he talkin like that people say he is ah child. Well the list is long of hard back men who make choices that are selfish. It has nothing to do with being a child.

The fella and he "advisors" been making grown up decisions all along BUT  when they say wow look at the publicity that Ghana getting and the love they getting he want to jump ship...not as a kid...but as a MAN.  Yuh doh need to be no child to realize that. 

Allyuh ent read the papers in America and in T&T. 16 yr old fellas raping, killing, robbing, thiefing and some even going to medical school.  Guess what MEN do the same thing.

He ent thinking as no child He thinking as ah man. And the fact remains that he turn them down...for the World Cup and the Nation's Cup just like we get turn down too.



         Do sixteen year olds drive?do they hang or give them the electric chair?

Coops ah doh know when last yuh been to Trini eh but I driving "ON THE ROAD" since ah was 14.

In America yuh could divorce yuh parents even before 16. 

Hanging and electric chair have nothing to do with it...matter of fact MOST countries don't legalize killing they own people...no matter the age 
        In America it have six year old driving is it legal,does that make it right,are they mature enough to do so,does that make them men/women.   

Coops yuh grasping at anything now.  We not talking about anything to do with legality or right/wrong issue.  This is a GAME and at 16 in a GAME yuh could more than make MAN decisions. It have 14 year olds that right now that are game programmers.  They are more than capable of making decisions that they deem "GOOD FOR THE GAME" and adults will not only respect their decisions BUT implement them.  Give the fella credit...we not talking about whether he should press the NUKE Button.

We talking about a GAME in which he is contemplating doing just as Jlloyd Samuel, Zamora, Kalou, and many others. Why is his age an excuse ???


Breds i think you getting me wrong,if you look at my earlier post i'm with you on this,age is not an issue for me in this sport,that's why i said the DC Utd Coach is a dunce,a lot of people here have been saying Adu should not be playing and should wait his turn,i was one who always stood up for that kid,just read carefully what Coop's had to say,i don't argue or fight i just give views,there is nothing to win here.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: grskywalker on June 24, 2006, 11:06:05 AM
Let's be srious do you really see Freddie running against them big horse from Europe? PLEASE in 2010 he would be or should be ready, I don't know why he thought he could have made this team, he would not have made a difference
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Trinimassive on June 24, 2006, 11:20:47 AM
Oh please....save the 16 yr old BS

Jlloyd Samuel is ah hard back man. Zamora is ah hard back man.  Kalou ent 16 yrs old.

Freddy making the same decision as men, playing with men, thinking like men, sounding like ah man...but when he talkin like that people say he is ah child. Well the list is long of hard back men who make choices that are selfish. It has nothing to do with being a child.

The fella and he "advisors" been making grown up decisions all along BUT  when they say wow look at the publicity that Ghana getting and the love they getting he want to jump ship...not as a kid...but as a MAN.  Yuh doh need to be no child to realize that. 

Allyuh ent read the papers in America and in T&T. 16 yr old fellas raping, killing, robbing, thiefing and some even going to medical school.  Guess what MEN do the same thing.

He ent thinking as no child He thinking as ah man. And the fact remains that he turn them down...for the World Cup and the Nation's Cup just like we get turn down too.



         Do sixteen year olds drive?do they hang or give them the electric chair?

Coops ah doh know when last yuh been to Trini eh but I driving "ON THE ROAD" since ah was 14.

In America yuh could divorce yuh parents even before 16. 

Hanging and electric chair have nothing to do with it...matter of fact MOST countries don't legalize killing they own people...no matter the age 
        In America it have six year old driving is it legal,does that make it right,are they mature enough to do so,does that make them men/women.   

Coops yuh grasping at anything now.  We not talking about anything to do with legality or right/wrong issue.  This is a GAME and at 16 in a GAME yuh could more than make MAN decisions. It have 14 year olds that right now that are game programmers.  They are more than capable of making decisions that they deem "GOOD FOR THE GAME" and adults will not only respect their decisions BUT implement them.  Give the fella credit...we not talking about whether he should press the NUKE Button.

We talking about a GAME in which he is contemplating doing just as Jlloyd Samuel, Zamora, Kalou, and many others. Why is his age an excuse ???


Breds i think you getting me wrong,if you look at my earlier post i'm with you on this,age is not an issue for me in this sport,that's why i said the DC Utd Coach is a dunce,a lot of people here have been saying Adu should not be playing and should wait his turn,i was one who always stood up for that kid,just read carefully what Coop's had to say,i don't argue or fight i just give views,there is nothing to win here.

Ok Mr Coop's Comprende :chilling:
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Coop's on June 24, 2006, 11:22:45 AM
Let's be srious do you really see Freddie running against them big horse from Europe? PLEASE in 2010 he would be or should be ready, I don't know why he thought he could have made this team, he would not have made a difference
      I don't think he thought he can make any team but getting the experience of training with and being around the team will serve him well for his future development,if he don't start preparing himself in 2010 he still will not be ready,look at how England took a 17 yr old with them,a lot of countries do it.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Carib-Briton on June 24, 2006, 11:50:18 AM
Its funny that this thread was about adu and the words driving, rape & murder end up in it.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Trini Madness on June 24, 2006, 11:59:26 AM
i doh think ghana will want him back cuz he turn them down already. adu gonna have to wait to get on de US squad. he wouldve made de ghana squad...de oldest player on ghana is 25 years old.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Bally on June 24, 2006, 12:48:12 PM
Remember Adu picked the US because he thought he was going to the world cup with them but he get dis by the coach also he was the poster child for the MLS, and we all know that MLS don’t promote foreign stars now that he said he’s going to Europe he done need the Mls or nike, so if he choose Ghana its no big deal.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Fyzoman on June 24, 2006, 02:26:20 PM
great post! but, comparing ah lil boy to hard back men? totally different situations, won't even go into details about adu being actually BORN in ghana.....anyway it really amazes me how big men??? would bun fire on a lil boy and talk bout how he selfish he is and he's a bastard and all kinda stuipidness....personally i find arena shoulda carry de man to ride the bench(a la Ronaldo in wc 94)....oh and by de way, how de arse does a 16 old who is some stupid game-programmer fit into this whole discussion bout Adu making a huge decsion like which country to represent in the biggest sport in de world???
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Dumplingdinho on June 24, 2006, 03:37:30 PM
i doh think ghana will want him back cuz he turn them down already. adu gonna have to wait to get on de US squad. he wouldve made de ghana squad...de oldest player on ghana is 25 years old.

the average of the team is 25, there are a few players between 28-30 in de squad.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Trinimassive on June 24, 2006, 03:49:28 PM
great post! but, comparing ah lil boy to hard back men? totally different situations, won't even go into details about adu being actually BORN in ghana.....anyway it really amazes me how big men??? would bun fire on a lil boy and talk bout how he selfish he is and he's a bastard and all kinda stuipidness....personally i find arena shoulda carry de man to ride the bench(a la Ronaldo in wc 94)....oh and by de way, how de arse does a 16 old who is some stupid game-programmer fit into this whole discussion bout Adu making a huge decsion like which country to represent in the biggest sport in de world???


How is this a HUGE decision. This is NOT the Nuke button we talking about...is ah GAME. Besides is ONLY ONE country he was going to get to represent at the 2006 World Cup and that was Ghana. They said he has a place in the team....US blank him so what yuh talkin bout Willis ???

This have nothing to do with age...is about Love for country and where yuh heart is.  I doh expect most Trinis to understand that. So yes for most young and old whether to play for America or Ghana'/Trinidad and Tobago would indeed be a tough decision.  After all why play for a poor third world country when you could hold out and play for the Mighty US where yuh become ah citizen through ah lottery :devil:

But I do understand...everybody look at their homeland in different ways....especially Trinis :chilling:
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Dinner Mints on June 24, 2006, 04:05:30 PM
great post! but, comparing ah lil boy to hard back men? totally different situations, won't even go into details about adu being actually BORN in ghana.....anyway it really amazes me how big men??? would bun fire on a lil boy and talk bout how he selfish he is and he's a bastard and all kinda stuipidness....personally i find arena shoulda carry de man to ride the bench(a la Ronaldo in wc 94)....oh and by de way, how de arse does a 16 old who is some stupid game-programmer fit into this whole discussion bout Adu making a huge decsion like which country to represent in the biggest sport in de world???


How is this a HUGE decision. This is NOT the Nuke button we talking about...is ah GAME. Besides is ONLY ONE country he was going to get to represent at the 2006 World Cup and that was Ghana. They said he has a place in the team....US blank him so what yuh talkin bout Willis ???

This have nothing to do with age...is about Love for country and where yuh heart is.  I doh expect most Trinis to understand that. So yes for most young and old whether to play for America or Ghana'/Trinidad and Tobago would indeed be a tough decision.  After all why play for a poor third world country when you could hold out and play for the Mighty US where yuh become ah citizen through ah lottery :devil:

But I do understand...everybody look at their homeland in different ways....especially Trinis :chilling:
Pardnah. In the original article he tells you exactly how he feels about his homeland. If you choose not to believe him, that's you.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Filho on June 24, 2006, 04:23:53 PM
great post! but, comparing ah lil boy to hard back men? totally different situations, won't even go into details about adu being actually BORN in ghana.....anyway it really amazes me how big men??? would bun fire on a lil boy and talk bout how he selfish he is and he's a bastard and all kinda stuipidness....personally i find arena shoulda carry de man to ride the bench(a la Ronaldo in wc 94)....oh and by de way, how de arse does a 16 old who is some stupid game-programmer fit into this whole discussion bout Adu making a huge decsion like which country to represent in the biggest sport in de world???


How is this a HUGE decision. This is NOT the Nuke button we talking about...is ah GAME. Besides is ONLY ONE country he was going to get to represent at the 2006 World Cup and that was Ghana. They said he has a place in the team....US blank him so what yuh talkin bout Willis ???

This have nothing to do with age...is about Love for country and where yuh heart is.  I doh expect most Trinis to understand that. So yes for most young and old whether to play for America or Ghana'/Trinidad and Tobago would indeed be a tough decision.  After all why play for a poor third world country when you could hold out and play for the Mighty US where yuh become ah citizen through ah lottery :devil:

But I do understand...everybody look at their homeland in different ways....especially Trinis :chilling:

...just becasue he has to make adult decisions does not mean he is an adult. He is still a kid and for many this is a very serious decision. You don't seem to understand that you can identify with different cultures and love them equally regardless of where you are born. He was born in Ghana but moved to the US at a very young age and it is his home. It is where he will become a man, and learn about life. Why are you so narrow minded about this situation. Have you ever faced it? maybe yo are right about Fredi...but none of us can really be sure ..
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Trinimassive on June 24, 2006, 04:30:16 PM
great post! but, comparing ah lil boy to hard back men? totally different situations, won't even go into details about adu being actually BORN in ghana.....anyway it really amazes me how big men??? would bun fire on a lil boy and talk bout how he selfish he is and he's a bastard and all kinda stuipidness....personally i find arena shoulda carry de man to ride the bench(a la Ronaldo in wc 94)....oh and by de way, how de arse does a 16 old who is some stupid game-programmer fit into this whole discussion bout Adu making a huge decsion like which country to represent in the biggest sport in de world???


How is this a HUGE decision. This is NOT the Nuke button we talking about...is ah GAME. Besides is ONLY ONE country he was going to get to represent at the 2006 World Cup and that was Ghana. They said he has a place in the team....US blank him so what yuh talkin bout Willis ???

This have nothing to do with age...is about Love for country and where yuh heart is.  I doh expect most Trinis to understand that. So yes for most young and old whether to play for America or Ghana'/Trinidad and Tobago would indeed be a tough decision.  After all why play for a poor third world country when you could hold out and play for the Mighty US where yuh become ah citizen through ah lottery :devil:

But I do understand...everybody look at their homeland in different ways....especially Trinis :chilling:

...just becasue he has to make adult decisions does not mean he is an adult. He is still a kid and for many this is a very serious decision. You don't seem to understand that you can identify with different cultures and love them equally regardless of where you are born. He was born in Ghana but moved to the US at a very young age and it is his home. It is where he will become a man, and learn about life. Why are you so narrow minded about this situation. Have you ever faced it? maybe yo are right about Fredi...but none of us can really be sure ..

I am right :devil:

No don't get me wrong eh I actually like the fella..I think he is talented but this situation reeks of Waggonism.

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Prodigy Adu says no to Ghana, wants US World Cup spot: report

October 11, 2005
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Freddy Adu, the Ghana-born teen prodigy who became a US citizen in 2003, has no interest in playing for his African homeland in the 2006 World Cup.

Adu was overjoyed to learn Saturday that Ghana had qualified for its first World Cup, but the 16-year-old reserve forward for reigning Major League Soccer champion DC United told the Washington Post he intends to play only for US national teams.

"If they asked me, I would have to say no," Adu said. "I made up my mind to play for the United States some day and I'm sticking to it. I'm very happy. It makes me feel great that Ghana made it. But this is where I play now."

Adu has dual citizenship and would have the option, if approved by FIFA, of playing for Ghana in Germany next year because he is under 21 and has never played for the US senior national squad.

Once Adu played for Ghana, however, he could never play for the US team.

"It's definitely tempting because I want to be at this World Cup so bad," Adu told the Post. "But I am going to stay with the United States."

Adu has a longshot hope of making next year's US World Cup squad, a veteran-laden team looking to improve upon a 2002 quarter-final run, but he would be a strong contender for a 2010 World Cup debut in South Africa.

Adu was born in 1989 and moved to suburban Washington eight years later, playing on the US under-17 team at the 2003 World Championships in Finland.

Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Carib-Briton on June 24, 2006, 04:42:13 PM
great post! but, comparing ah lil boy to hard back men? totally different situations, won't even go into details about adu being actually BORN in ghana.....anyway it really amazes me how big men??? would bun fire on a lil boy and talk bout how he selfish he is and he's a bastard and all kinda stuipidness....personally i find arena shoulda carry de man to ride the bench(a la Ronaldo in wc 94)....oh and by de way, how de arse does a 16 old who is some stupid game-programmer fit into this whole discussion bout Adu making a huge decsion like which country to represent in the biggest sport in de world???


How is this a HUGE decision. This is NOT the Nuke button we talking about...is ah GAME. Besides is ONLY ONE country he was going to get to represent at the 2006 World Cup and that was Ghana. They said he has a place in the team....US blank him so what yuh talkin bout Willis ???

This have nothing to do with age...is about Love for country and where yuh heart is.  I doh expect most Trinis to understand that. So yes for most young and old whether to play for America or Ghana'/Trinidad and Tobago would indeed be a tough decision.  After all why play for a poor third world country when you could hold out and play for the Mighty US where yuh become ah citizen through ah lottery :devil:

But I do understand...everybody look at their homeland in different ways....especially Trinis :chilling:

...just becasue he has to make adult decisions does not mean he is an adult. He is still a kid and for many this is a very serious decision. You don't seem to understand that you can identify with different cultures and love them equally regardless of where you are born. He was born in Ghana but moved to the US at a very young age and it is his home. It is where he will become a man, and learn about life. Why are you so narrow minded about this situation. Have you ever faced it? maybe yo are right about Fredi...but none of us can really be sure ..
Good post Filho. That makes alot of sense.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Fantastic on June 25, 2006, 08:13:09 AM
Somebody mentioned de MLS marketing machine earlier and ah doh believe we understand dat enough. Sports is big money business. Ghana football has little money. Adu is de youngest and de  highest paid player in MLS.He had to make decisions to keep options open and de money flowing constantly. At a young age, playing for ghana does nothing but give him points for loyalty and allow him to play with more talent around him. He doesn't need de exposure, and no money is coming from it. Go to Europe and show yuh stuff, make de money there, take all de marketing money de americans throw at yuh or play couple games with ghana and risk underperforming and gettin lost in de mix and playing div 3 in germany. make de money freddie!!!!!! when yuh get older yuh could think bout ghana if de us never work out. until then........make sure yuh family eating boss
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 25, 2006, 06:25:19 PM
Adu need to hold he corner.  He was approached by Ghana to be a part of the team, but said that he is an American and this is where he really learned the game.  He sounding like Zamora now.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: saga pinto on June 25, 2006, 09:23:53 PM
It may happen like it has to many talented young rising stars,novelties that fade into oblivion,2010 he might still be on the inside looking out...................
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: marcel on June 28, 2006, 02:09:05 AM

i dont think mister adu is good enough for a european topteam.
He might go to chelsea,right.
chelsea has got 34 forwards ,dont think ady can make the difference
maybe a team in belgium or something will suit him for start
if he survives that then there might be a chance he can make it to the big guys.
not many usa  players can make it abroad

Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: triniairman on July 02, 2006, 09:12:34 PM
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Michael Essien has urged Freddy Adu to join him in playing for both Ghana and Chelsea.

The DC United striker has been one of the most talked about starlets of recent years, with the future of the 17-year-old, both domestically and internationally, remaining in some doubt.

Adu has represented USA at various levels but has not made his senior bow and he is now mulling over an offer to represent his native Ghana.

The African's impressive World Cup campaign could convince Adu to make the switch and Essien, the Black Stars' key player, has spoken of his admiration for the hugely promising hit-man and in the process, pleaded with him to join Chelsea.

It has been widely speculated that Manchester United and Chelsea will be at the forefront of the queue if, and when, DC United decide to cash in, with Essien urging a switch to West London.

''Freddy is a really good young player,'' Essien told the Star on Sunday.

''I hope he joins me at Chelsea. It would make me very happy.

''It's now up to him to decide which country he wants to play for - and he would be more than welcome in our team.

''He's a good player, who has more to learn.''


Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: AB.Trini on July 02, 2006, 09:51:09 PM
African proverb: "It takes a whole village to raise a child"

American Proverb: " It takes all the money we have to buy anything we want"
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Tenorsaw on July 03, 2006, 07:55:04 AM
Adu should feel very loved that man like Essien calling him out.  After his years in the MLS, which in my opinion, he has not lived up to the inflated expectations, he should feel good that his name is still on the lips of major players.  He needs to make a move quick.  The MLS has done what it could for him.  He is still malleable, so the time to move is NOW.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: spideybuff on July 03, 2006, 08:08:16 AM
I could be wrong but I swear Adu said he might play for Ghana before the World Cup and that was when the US call him out for that friendly game and into the training camp to ''fool'' him into thinking he had a chance with them. The man didn't come out and turn his back on Ghana...the States called him , Ghana didn't. But maybe I missed something inbetween the way men talking about how he turn his back on Ghana...
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Trinimassive on July 03, 2006, 11:29:03 AM
I could be wrong but I swear Adu said he might play for Ghana before the World Cup and that was when the US call him out for that friendly game and into the training camp to ''fool'' him into thinking he had a chance with them. The man didn't come out and turn his back on Ghana...the States called him , Ghana didn't. But maybe I missed something inbetween the way men talking about how he turn his back on Ghana...


Yeah yuh migha miss something.

They wanted him for the African Nations Cup AND the World Cup. 

Ghana plan Adu swoop 
Piers Edwards
BBC Sport 


 
Ghana-born Freddy Adu has played for the USA at junior level

Ghana are going to make a dramatic bid to lure teenage star Freddy Adu into representing them at next year's World Cup.

The 16-year-old currently plays for the United States at youth level but is Ghanaian by birth.

Yet he can switch nationalities because Fifa allow a player to play for one team at youth level and another at senior level as long as he makes the change before the age of 21.

Now the Black Stars aim to convince the teenager to play for them at not only the World Cup but next month's Nations Cup as well.

"We have decided to contact Adu to ask him to decide whether he would like to play for Ghana or the United States," Black Stars coach Ratomir Dujkovic told BBC Sport.

"In the coming days, he will be contacted by the football association."

The Ghana Football Association is planning their raid despite the fact that Adu is reportedly unwilling to play for anyone other than the United States.

Earlier this year, the DC United star told the Washington Post newspaper that he would turn down a proposal from Ghana if they asked him to play at the World Cup.

"We have just over a month to persuade him to come," Dujkovic explained.

"I believe that if has sentiment for Ghana, he will play for the Black Stars."

"And playing at the World Cup would be a big opportunity for him to show the rest of the world, not just America, that he is a great footballer."

Ghana's bid to snatch Adu from America is audacious because the Americans are going to be one of their opponents at Germany 2006.

At last Friday's draw in Leipzig, the two teams were paired together in Group E along with Italy and the Czech Republic.

Adu's motherland will take on his adopted country on 22 June in Nuremberg.

The teenage prodigy was born in Ghana but left at the age of eight when his mother won an immigrant visa to America in the Green Card lottery.

Within a few years, he was playing for America's Under-17 team, helping them reach the quarter-finals of the World Championships in 2003.

Should Adu choose to play for Ghana at senior level, Fifa rules state that he would not be allowed to turn out for the U.S. ever again.



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Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Jefferz on July 03, 2006, 11:39:52 AM
steeeeeeeeeewpsssssssss. I said it reeeel long time ago.


Adu eh gettin on de team A.) and B.) Ghana is going to give USA major cut ass anyway...

I done said long days he shoulda find back he roots when Ghana Qualified as appose to stick with the seemingly stronger US.

Tuh ras with Adu.
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Pointman on July 03, 2006, 11:59:23 AM
Ahm... allyuh realize he a teenager, right? And he was a even younger teenager when he make his decision. God forbid somebody gain insight and wisdom as they age. God forbid they reevaluate the choices they made at 16. Lord knows Shaka shouldn't be keepin for we den.
.

 :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Pointman on July 03, 2006, 12:15:07 PM
Let's be srious do you really see Freddie running against them big horse from Europe? PLEASE in 2010 he would be or should be ready, I don't know why he thought he could have made this team, he would not have made a difference
      I don't think he thought he can make any team but getting the experience of training with and being around the team will serve him well for his future development,if he don't start preparing himself in 2010 he still will not be ready,look at how England took a 17 yr old with them,a lot of countries do it.

Who did we take? :-[
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: Pointman on July 03, 2006, 12:23:11 PM
Somebody mentioned de MLS marketing machine earlier and ah doh believe we understand dat enough. Sports is big money business. Ghana football has little money. Adu is de youngest and de  highest paid player in MLS.He had to make decisions to keep options open and de money flowing constantly. At a young age, playing for ghana does nothing but give him points for loyalty and allow him to play with more talent around him. He doesn't need de exposure, and no money is coming from it. Go to Europe and show yuh stuff, make de money there, take all de marketing money de americans throw at yuh or play couple games with ghana and risk underperforming and gettin lost in de mix and playing div 3 in germany. make de money freddie!!!!!! when yuh get older yuh could think bout ghana if de us never work out. until then........make sure yuh family eating boss

Best post EVER!!
At the end of the day it's about maximizing your earning potential in a very short lived arena...professional sports. MAKE THAT MONEY!!!!
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: AB.Trini on July 03, 2006, 12:25:08 PM
ent ah say so:?

http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=18106.msg189250#msg189250

Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: sprog on July 03, 2006, 12:30:41 PM
The best thing he said is that he going abroad to ply his trade cause it has now been confimed that the mls can only develop a player that much, the rest of the world is still running away
Title: Re: Adu hints at Ghana option
Post by: triniairman on July 16, 2006, 12:01:53 PM
Adu in Bhoys admission
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DC United's teenage sensation Freddy Adu has not ruled out playing for SPL giants Celtic in his career.

The 17-year-old is currently one of the world's hottest properties and has been linked with some of Europe's finest.

However, Adu has been sold on Celtic and has conceded he would be interested in playing for The Bhoys.

The Ghana-born USA youth player regards Gordon Strachan's side as being bigger than arch-rivals Rangers.

"To be honest, I regard them (Celtic) as the biggest club in Scotland," Adu told the Daily Record.

"Celtic are bigger than Rangers and they are in the Champions League pretty much every season.

"I have been dreaming about playing in England or Spain and maybe Germany. But Scotland might be good, too. So no, I wouldn't count Celtic out.

"It's not every day you get to play against a team like Celtic and I wanted to make the most of the opportunity."

Adu is likely to have impressed against Celtic after netting DCU's opening goal in their 4-0 win over the SPL champions last Wednesday.

The teenager heard all about The Bhoys from ex-player Steve Guppy, who had a spell with the MLS side after leaving Parkhead.

"Steve came here bragging about his time with Celtic and because no one here had played for one of Europe's top ones," Adu added.

"He was always going on to websites and showing us clips of him playing for them.

"He told me all about them and that was one of the reasons it was such an honour to play against them the other night."
Title: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: Andre on September 27, 2006, 06:58:15 AM
not exactly chelsea but...

Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu   
AFP
September 27, 2006

LONDON (AFP) - English Premiership newcomers Reading are set to swoop for Ghana-born US footballing prodigy Freddy Adu.

Reading boss Steve Coppell, who already has Americans Bobby Convey and Marcus Hahnemann on the books, wants the 17-year-old midfielder, who has been in outstanding form for US Major League Soccer's DC United, on a six-month loan from January with a view to a five-million-pound permament deal next summer.

Major League Soccer (MLS) owns the contracts of all their players and see Adu's move as a boost to their world standing.

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The Sun tabloid quoted an MLS source as saying: "If an offer comes in for Freddy it will be considered.

"The players wishes and desires would be involved in the process," he told the daily on Wednesday.

Adu has been touted as a hot property since his MLS debut in 2004 aged just 14, making him the youngest-ever professional in American sport history.

He also became USAs youngest international earlier this year and ran rings round Celtic in a summer friendly, scoring in DC Uniteds 4-0 romp.
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: Trini _2026 on September 27, 2006, 07:03:43 AM

Great news he should go where he gets playing time. and not to chelsea

Major League Soccer (MLS) owns the contracts of all their players and see Adu's move as a boost to their world standing.

Should our pro league make this move
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: Socapro on September 27, 2006, 08:21:07 AM
I remember Freddy Adu saying after the World Cup that he is now interested in playing for Ghana.

Ah wonder if he is still eligible to play for his country of birth?

Can anyone clarify?
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: duscam on September 27, 2006, 08:49:21 AM
I might be wrong but being under 21 I think he can switch allegiances.......tallman?
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: Jah Gol on September 27, 2006, 09:06:51 AM
I might be wrong but being under 21 I think he can switch allegiances.......tallman?
I think so too. I can't remember if the law has any restrictions against players who participated in copetitive international youth football. But in the last African Nation's Cup a good few players defected after playing U21 football for France mainly.
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: Rastaman on September 27, 2006, 09:28:04 AM
I might be wrong but being under 21 I think he can switch allegiances.......tallman?
I think so too. I can't remember if the law has any restrictions against players who participated in copetitive international youth football. But in the last African Nation's Cup a good few players defected after playing U21 football for France mainly.
The thing was that if you play youth internationals you have to apply to FIFA in a certain amount of time before you can change country.....Zamora and them wait too late to apply that is why they get blank. Freddie Kanoute went through the correct process that is how he was able to play on the African nations Cup...........That is if you cross 21, not too sure how it goes under that.
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: Jahyouth on September 27, 2006, 10:03:47 AM
it have a hundred Freddy Adu's in Brazil and Argentina.

Marketing, hype and more hype is all this youth man is.
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: Coop's on September 27, 2006, 10:09:00 AM
All who still say Freddy Adu is a shithound i hope you following this,this kid got options and is for who ever manageing him to make the right choices,they all have to try and do what's best for him.

I thought that DC Coach was trying to keep him back when he complained about playing time,people are now seeing the ability that kid has and this is an opportunity for him to prove he is better than some think.This is definitely a good move/step in the right direction where his development as a player will continue.
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: futbolfan on September 27, 2006, 11:11:37 AM
All who still say Freddy Adu is a shithound i hope you following this,this kid got options and is for who ever manageing him to make the right choices,they all have to try and do what's best for him.

I thought that DC Coach was trying to keep him back when he complained about playing time,people are now seeing the ability that kid has and this is an opportunity for him to prove he is better than some think.This is definitely a good move/step in the right direction where his development as a player will continue. 

coop's I won't necessarily say that he is a shytsnake...but there are many players around the globe his age who are light years ahead of him with regards to speed, skill and tactical awareness. I believe that the coach from DC did not hold him back, but contributed immensely in  his  transition from being a 16 year old kid to a professional footballer.

 In his first few seasons, he  was very individualistic player as opposed to this year where he is more team oriented. Because of this he is getting consistent playing time, his level of play has increased (unfortunately he cannot develop into a top flight player in the MLS...different topic for another day) and DC united has the best record in the league.

NIKE + ADU = $$.....I am actually glad that he is moving to Europe so that he can continue his overall development as a professional footballer.
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: Jumbie on September 27, 2006, 11:16:50 AM
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wants the 17-year-old midfielder

this fella stil 17? Lawd, like is in metric they calculating he age. At this rate he may be playing in the same league as he gran chiren!


Good luck Mr. Adu.
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: Tongue on September 27, 2006, 11:46:12 AM
all the best to him....buuuuuuuuut I doh see him lasting
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: Coop's on September 27, 2006, 11:50:04 AM
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wants the 17-year-old midfielder

this fella stil 17? Lawd, like is in metric they calculating he age. At this rate he may be playing in the same league as he gran chiren!


Good luck Mr. Adu.
Weather he is 17 or what ever age they say he is is irelivant at this stage,could the guy play or not,at the moment he is playing in a league with guys twice his age,is not like he playing U18 Football.
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: andre samuel on September 28, 2006, 09:55:24 AM
Haul de MLS mudda kant!!

If they send him to Reading FC i will never watch another MLS game again.

Because this is de same MLS that blank Shalrie Joseph form going to Celtic!!!

Too much ah double standard. 

Fire for de MLS  :flamethrower:

ah love it!!
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 28, 2006, 10:37:45 AM
Haul de MLS mudda kant!!

If they send him to Reading FC i will never watch another MLS game again.

Because this is de same MLS that blank Shalrie Joseph form going to Celtic!!!

Too much ah double standard.

Fire for de MLS :flamethrower:

   I second dat!! the structure of these mls msl misled is part of the problem when it comes to the development of these young (dare I say black?) players.  Wasn't it Benfica or Sporting Lisbon that offered them $ 5M for Eddie Johnson last year and they said "no"?

ah love it!!
Title: Re: The Saga Continues: Reading set to swoop for US prodigy Adu
Post by: Trini _2026 on September 28, 2006, 10:52:53 AM
Quote
wants the 17-year-old midfielder

this fella stil 17? Lawd, like is in metric they calculating he age. At this rate he may be playing in the same league as he gran chiren!


Good luck Mr. Adu.
Weather he is 17 or what ever age they say he is is irelivant at this stage,could the guy play or not,at the moment he is playing in a league with guys twice his age,is not like he playing U18 Football.

Yuh right he  Coop and freddy adu is not the finish product he holding his own against guys in thier prime
Title: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: DeSoWa on November 08, 2006, 06:19:41 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6151398?FSO1&ATT=HMA

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WASHINGTON (AP) - Freddy Adu will get his long-awaited first taste of European club soccer when he practices with Manchester United for two weeks later this month.

D.C. United and MLS have given the teen star permission to join the famous English team starting Nov. 18, three days after he is expected to play in a U.S. Under-20 national team game against Guatemala in Florida.

D.C. United spokesman Doug Hicks said the practices with Manchester United will not a tryout and that Adu's rights remain with MLS.

"This is a great opportunity for Freddy," Hicks said Wednesday. "We support his decision to seek additional training opportunities in the offseason."

Adu, who became the youngest player in MLS history three years ago when he was drafted at age 14, has often stated his desire to play for a European club. Such a move will be easier under international transfer rules when he turns 18 in June.

Adu is under contract to United for one more season, but he said after Sunday's season-ending playoff loss to New England that there have been "some serious talks" that could lead to him playing elsewhere next year.

Adu's workouts with Manchester United were first reported by The Washington Post on its Web site.


Big Up!
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Lower St. John on November 08, 2006, 06:23:07 PM
MLS continues to do a great job in marketing the US player. 

Best of luck Adu, although I am of the belief that you are not up to ManU standard.

Blessings
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: weary1969 on November 08, 2006, 06:50:34 PM
Adu goin on trial with man U what our under 20's doin. Under rubbbish
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Trini _2026 on November 08, 2006, 06:56:30 PM
MLS continues to do a great job in marketing the US player.

Best of luck Adu, although I am of the belief that you are not up to ManU standard.

Blessings

Yes he is not ready for mau united first team just as yet  i am sure he is good enough for the reserve level
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: palos on November 08, 2006, 06:57:39 PM
Adu goin on trial with man U what our under 20's doin. Under rubbbish

Keon Daniel went to Man U on a trial either last year or year before....very similar to what Freddy Adu is doing now. Apparently he was deemed to have good skills but plays too slowly and laidback for Man U. I believe BSC arranged that trial and not the TTFF but I'm not sure about that.



Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: WestCoast on November 08, 2006, 07:00:49 PM
if Martins can make it, i say, GO FREDDY GO
he an Martins same shape. ;)
(http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/52000969.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE4316D70568F4BF9F)(http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71910365.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6935732D2FB08E290591E7EC1A351FC8B)
Birthdate 1989-06-02, Height 5-8, Weight 140 Date of Birth: 1984-10-28, Height: 5'8 ft. Weight: 11st 0lbs= 154 pound

allya check how MANY ways to weight something there are :o :o
http://www.onlineconversion.com/weight_all.htm
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: kounty on November 08, 2006, 07:03:44 PM
naturally left footed players hard to come by... with a lot of hard work who knows.
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Tongue on November 08, 2006, 07:33:40 PM
if Martins can make it, i say, GO FREDDY GO
he an Martins same shape.  ;)
(http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/52000969.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE4316D70568F4BF9F)(http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71910365.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6935732D2FB08E290591E7EC1A351FC8B)
Birthdate 1989-06-02, Height 5-8, Weight 140                                                Date of Birth: 1984-10-28, Height: 5'8 ft. Weight: 11st 0lbs= 154 pound

allya check how MANY ways to weight something there are :o :o
http://www.onlineconversion.com/weight_all.htm


who born 84 and who born in 89?  ::)
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: WestCoast on November 08, 2006, 07:37:55 PM
ok Freddy is 17 and Obafemi is 22

Sorry, I arranged the text to be just below each picture for my screen only ;) ;D
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Trini _2026 on November 08, 2006, 07:53:26 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6151398?FSO1&ATT=HMA

D.C. United and MLS have given the teen star permission to join the famous English team starting Nov. 18, three days after he is expected to play in a U.S. Under-20 national team game against Guatemala in Florida.


Are we playing anybody is the question ... i hope the ttff eh stick and bring st vincent or grenada    fuh we to play ...
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: WestCoast on November 08, 2006, 08:02:13 PM
Keon Daniel went to Man U on a trial either last year or year before....very similar to what Freddy Adu is doing now. Apparently he was deemed to have good skills but plays too slowly and laidback for Man U. I believe BSC arranged that trial and not the TTFF but I'm not sure about that.
So why people does say ting bout BSC so ??? Obviously he must have some level of respect in England for him to arrange a trial for Keon and people ent cuttin he no slack atall.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=15022.msg154732#msg154732
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Quags on November 08, 2006, 08:15:56 PM
He ein't go make it .,Man U should bring Carlos ,after all the last time they bring ah Trinbagonian in all they do wAs win the treble  ::) He's we best and nobody respecting that  >:(
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Trini _2026 on November 08, 2006, 08:37:11 PM
dat workout will do adu good  say what allyuh want which 17 year old in trinidad could play like him ... i bet he could make our national team bench
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on November 08, 2006, 09:42:59 PM
dat workout will do adu good say what allyuh want which 17 year old in trinidad could play like him ... i bet he could make our national team bench

Bench?  I think that he would definately make Trinidad left wing man.  Tell who going and keep him out?
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: grskywalker on November 08, 2006, 10:25:13 PM
good news for freddy, finally he will get some real coaching
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Jumbie on November 09, 2006, 06:28:16 AM
Just read this...

United rubbish reports of trial for US starlet Adu

Manchester United have rejected talk that teenage American wonderkid Freddy Adu is to join the club on trial later this month.

Reports had suggested the DC United player, who has been touted for super stardom since his early teens, would fulfil a lifetime ambition by joining the Old Trafford club for a fortnight in the hope of securing a permanent contract.

Chelsea have also been linked with the 17-year-old, whose Major League Soccer season has been brought to an end by DC United's failure to qualify for the end of year play-offs.

However, the Red Devils have reacted quickly to dismiss talk of Adu coming to the club, insisting they are not interested in the player.

'Major League Soccer's Freddy Adu will not be attending a trial with Manchester United as has been reported on both sides of the Atlantic,' said United in a statement.

'The Washington Post ran a story this week, which was picked up by English papers with quotes from Adu claiming the Reds are still monitoring the teenage striker's progress and that he is due to travel to Manchester on November 18 for a two-week trial.

'The reports contradict statements released last season in which United expressly pointed out that a Adu was not a player they are currently interested in.

'Despite the recent bout of speculation, United's stance has not changed and Adu will not be attending a trial.'

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=390650&cc=5901
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Lower St. John on November 09, 2006, 06:57:29 AM
Okay, so ManU doh want him!!  Sad to hear but with the proper training the kid could be a good one!!

Bu how does this work?  Let say Adu was deemed good enough to make ManU first team, how does he get a Work Permit?  He has not played regularly on the US Senior team.

Blessings
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Andre on November 09, 2006, 07:51:03 AM
adu still need to put on a lil size.

he too smallie to play in europe.
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: boss on November 09, 2006, 08:23:28 AM
Yes he is not ready for mau united first team just as yet i am sure he is good enough for the reserve level

I think he would be better off signing and going on loan, rather than playing in the reserves. This is provided he gets a contract, which is a big IF...
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: congo on November 09, 2006, 08:30:52 AM
What so wrong about him playing in the reserves and then moving up...He aint all that anyway....Granted he could even make the reserves by displacing some bright young prospect who could someday play for ENGLAND...Rossi couldn't even make the first team this year..Far less for ADU....
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: grskywalker on November 09, 2006, 09:12:11 AM
Talk about bad reporting, all the sports news across America was talking about this, wow how embarrassing. Freddy mus be feeling lower than the white line in the road :rotfl:
Title: Utd confirm Adu interest
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 09, 2006, 09:43:44 AM
Manchester United are attempting to negotiate a two-week trial for American teenager Freddy Adu in November.

The club initially rejected reports that the 17-year-old striker, who plays Major League Soccer for DC United, would visit Old Trafford.

However, it has now emerged that negotiations are under way.

Adu has also been linked with Chelsea and could be available for transfer in January, providing a fee can be agreed with MLS, who own his registration.

DC United's domestic season ended at the weekend after they lost a play-off at the hands of New England Revolution.

After the game Adu said there had been "some serious talks" that could lead to him playing elsewhere next year and his comments heightened speculation over his future.

   
"I'd like to be back but my ultimate goal is to go overseas and if it comes sooner rather than later, I'll take it," he added.

Adu has played three seasons for DC United, having joined them at the age of 14.

Although there is only one year remaining on his contract with MLS, there is an option for two more for the Ghana-born player, who has been hailed as the great hope of American soccer.

Any potential move to Europe will be permissible under international transfer rules when he turns 18 in June 2007.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6131062.stm

Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: congo on November 09, 2006, 09:48:40 AM
Let him go Chelsea
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 09, 2006, 09:59:34 AM
Let him go Chelsea

only if he wants to ruin his career...     he will not get any playing time there...

prime example: Obi Mikel...   left Utd for chelsea  and his ass flatnow cuz of d amount of bench he getting
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: congo on November 09, 2006, 10:10:02 AM
You do know that I don't really like ADU right...
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: congo on November 09, 2006, 10:11:11 AM
Jon Obi is just an ass...WHere is he now? Chelsea who is he going and displace?? WHo did he think he was going and displace??
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: SOBRIQUET on November 09, 2006, 04:12:36 PM
Jon Obi is just an ass...WHere is he now? Chelsea who is he going and displace?? WHo did he think he was going and displace??

he will displace Makalele.  And lets not forget the man age.
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Trini _2026 on November 09, 2006, 04:30:58 PM
Jon Obi is just an ass...WHere is he now? Chelsea who is he going and displace?? WHo did he think he was going and displace??

jon obi is playiong the ass in englnd they say
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: SUPA on November 09, 2006, 06:52:37 PM
What so wrong about him playing in the reserves and then moving up...He aint all that anyway....Granted he could even make the reserves by displacing some bright young prospect who could someday play for ENGLAND...Rossi couldn't even make the first team this year..Far less for ADU....

Yuh trying tuh tell we dat Rossi in de same class as Adu, well ah doh see dat nah. Yuh either joking or is something personal wid you and Adu. Adu just not in Europe yet, but trust meh, wid what he is already gifted wid, and ah lil guidance from de right manager, is pure drama when he take de stage. Bless.
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: congo on November 10, 2006, 03:28:49 AM
All I saying is that for every one Adu America produce...England have 7
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: congo on November 10, 2006, 03:30:30 AM
jon obi is playiong the ass in englnd they say
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I still think he shoulda go Man U or Arsenal somewhere he woulda gotten time to improve...Cyah really say develop cause he's a big man...But I guess money talks...
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: congo on November 10, 2006, 03:32:12 AM
Yuh trying tuh tell we dat Rossi in de same class as Adu, well ah doh see dat nah. Yuh either joking or is something personal wid you and Adu. Adu just not in Europe yet, but trust meh, wid what he is already gifted wid, and ah lil guidance from de right manager, is pure drama when he take de stage. Bless.
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Never really watch the fella except in ads but if what uh saying is tru, then we'll see..
Title: Utd confirm Adu Triial
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 10, 2006, 04:34:10 AM

 Manchester United have confirmed to Sky Sports News that American teenager Freddy Adu will link up with the club for a two-week trial.

The Washington Post reported on Wednesday that the DC United ace was to spend two weeks with the Premiership giants later this month.

United earlier moved to reject the report but have now made a U-turn on their previous stance.

The 17-year-old is expected to train with the Premiership giants towards the end of the month to allow him to get a taste of English football.

If he impresses manager Sir Alex Ferguson, The Red Devils could step up their bid to land the Ghana-born striker in January.

Adu turns 18 next June and would therefore be eligible to move to Europe ahead of next season, but United may look to wrap up a deal as soon as possible.

However, they are likely to face stiff competition from across Europe with clubs such as Chelsea and Real Madrid also linked with the teenage sensation.

But United appear to have stolen a march on their rivals by luring him to Old Trafford for a short trial.

Adu still has a year remaining on his contract with DC United but is known to be a fan of The Premiership and could look to quit Major League Soccer for England next year.


http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=427732&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=&title=United+confirm+Adu+arrival
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: doc on November 10, 2006, 07:50:10 AM
I saw his mom last night and she also confirmed the Man.U stint.
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Tongue on November 10, 2006, 08:07:11 AM
wha boy Doc yuh real good oui, all dat come out after breakfast! wha else she tell yuh or yuh kyah share.... :devil:
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Peong on November 10, 2006, 08:17:05 AM
I saw his mom last night and she also confirmed the Man.U stint.

 :rotfl: doc
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: SUPA on November 10, 2006, 10:13:50 AM
All I saying is that for every one Adu America produce...England have 7

Yeah respect dey, ah get yuh point. However, ah doh consider him tuh be an American doh, dat is an African talent we looking at dey. He is like me, ah belong tuh de US presently, but I is ah Trini. If yuh get meh point, ah not trying tuh be difficult. Bless.
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Mr Fix-it on November 10, 2006, 10:19:40 AM
All I saying is that for every one Adu America produce...England have 7

Yeah respect dey, ah get yuh point. However, ah doh consider him tuh be an American doh, dat is an African talent we looking at dey. He is like me, ah belong tuh de US presently, but I is ah Trini. If yuh get meh point, ah not trying tuh be difficult. Bless.

But isn't that the entire of the Amreican team nowah days??  Back in de day, de America team was mostly made up of Americans, now dey get smart and start buying or giving dem men papers to play for dey team.
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: SUPA on November 10, 2006, 01:15:46 PM
All I saying is that for every one Adu America produce...England have 7

Yeah respect dey, ah get yuh point. However, ah doh consider him tuh be an American doh, dat is an African talent we looking at dey. He is like me, ah belong tuh de US presently, but I is ah Trini. If yuh get meh point, ah not trying tuh be difficult. Bless.

But isn't that the entire of the Amreican team nowah days?? Back in de day, de America team was mostly made up of Americans, now dey get smart and start buying or giving dem men papers to play for dey team.


Ah would not be dat bad mouth tuh say de entire team, but tuh my estimate, ah would say about half de team. Bless.
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: congo on November 10, 2006, 03:36:02 PM
All I saying is that for every one Adu America produce...England have 7

Yeah respect dey, ah get yuh point. However, ah doh consider him tuh be an American doh, dat is an African talent we looking at dey. He is like me, ah belong tuh de US presently, but I is ah Trini. If yuh get meh point, ah not trying tuh be difficult. Bless.

Yeh No scene...I didn't really mean it like he being american...I just meant that Adu is the only underage kid u hear the US bigging up...Europe always have some yute man knocking down the door...While in the US is only Adu, Adu uh keep hearing abt...In Europe it have men like rossi, Theo walcott....
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: congo on November 10, 2006, 03:42:22 PM
Yuh trying tuh tell we dat Rossi in de same class as Adu, well ah doh see dat nah. Yuh either joking or is something personal wid you and Adu. Adu just not in Europe yet, but trust meh, wid what he is already gifted wid, and ah lil guidance from de right manager, is pure drama when he take de stage. Bless.
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U compare.......Rossi--------->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26THxmFqevw
                   
                      Adu---------->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6-XV3UVm60

PS.......Watch Rossi movement and flow in his games.
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 10, 2006, 03:55:56 PM
Freddy Adu is good.....   but Rossi is exceptional... all he need is a lil more size  but his movement is my god... unbelievable..

Rooney also said he is the best finisher at the club... he said what he likes about rossi is that he is so calm...

he will be a big hit at Utd...all he needs is experience
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Lower St. John on November 10, 2006, 03:58:08 PM
Back in de day, de America team was mostly made up of Americans, now dey get smart and start buying or giving dem men papers to play for dey team.

Most of the US players on the Senior Squad are US grown players, coming through the college and MLS ranks.
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: congo on November 10, 2006, 04:24:17 PM
Small Mag...U talking my language...U seeing what I seeing and saying....Rossi is exceptional and come with a fraction of the hype that Adu goes with in the States....He was trying to tell me that Rossi not in the same class as Adu..... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Rossi gone on loan to Newcastle to come back to United a even better and more experienced professional..
Title: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: Trini _2026 on November 22, 2006, 08:30:26 AM
Doubts raised in US over Adu move 
By Matt Slater 
 

 
A wonderfully balanced dribbler, Adu has match-winning potential
Los Angeles Galaxy boss Alexi Lalas has warned Freddy Adu about the risks of making "the wrong move" overseas.

Adu, 17, is training with Manchester United but Lalas is worried the Premiership might not be right for him.

"He is a wonderful talent but I worry about his size. He needs to go to the appropriate team," said Lalas.

"If he goes to the wrong team he will get swallowed up on and off the pitch - it will be a waste of time. He's not a player that can adapt to anything."

Adu, who plays for American team DC United, started a two-week stint with the Premiership leaders' Academy team on Monday, and Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has already expressed a desire to sign the teenager if he proves himself.

"I think we would be interested, he's only young but we have known of him for a long time," said Ferguson earlier this month.


"We tried to get him here some years ago but he signed for DC United and that stopped the progress of us keeping tabs on him."

Adu, who will be available for transfer when he turns 18 next June, has made clear his wish to leave Major League Soccer for a bigger challenge and a number of top European teams have been linked with the Ghanaian-born sensation.

"My ultimate goal is to go overseas and if it comes sooner rather than later I'll take it," said Adu after DC United's season-ending defeat to New England two weeks ago.

But former US star Lalas, the only American to play in Italy's Serie A, is concerned a move to a club of Manchester United's size is too much too soon for Adu.

This is a view supported by Adu's current manager, former Polish international Peter Nowak.

"I think he'd like to go to somewhere he's not only going to play but also develop in the right way," said Nowak, who was teenage sensation himself in Poland before moving to teams in Germany, Switzerland, Turkey and ultimately America.

"(But) I don't think the clubs with the highest budget in the world will wait for Freddy to develop - they can buy another player for $20m or $30m.

"The guys who really develop kids in the right way are the Dutch league and some of the Spanish league, because it is more technical.

"But the English league is very hard. And there are guys that cost $20m just sitting on the bench."

Adu, who is listed as being 5ft 8in, has been the subject of hype and speculation ever since he made a series of eye-catching performances in the US as a boy.

Born in the Ghanaian port of Tema, he moved to America aged eight when his mother won an immigration lottery. His family settled in the Washington DC area and word of his prodigious ability soon spread.

At 13 he joined US Soccer's full-time programme in Bradenton, Florida, and then at 14 he became the first player taken in the 2004 Major League Soccer draft.

Adu, still 14, became the youngest player to appear in US professional sports since 1887 when he made his debut for DC United on 3 April, 2004. Two weeks later he scored his first professional goal.

He was quickly signed up by Nike - Manchester United's shirt supplier - and featured in numerous advertising campaigns and computer games.

His arrival on the MLS scene prompted an unprecedented amount of interest in the sport in the US but the subsequent two years have been more mixed.

The left-footed teenager has enjoyed plenty of highs - 11 MLS goals, appearances for the MLS All-Star team and a first international cap - but there have been a few lows too.

There has been criticism that he is too young, too small and too attack-minded - some have even suggested he is older than his official age and has stopped growing - and he has clashed with his club over playing time and his position.

In three seasons with DC United, Adu has made 87 appearances, 59 as a starter, but has been largely used as a winger, not the more central, attacking midfielder role he craves.

Even his international future is not settled as his substitute appearance for the US in January has not ruled out a switch to his native Ghana.

But whatever doubts still surround Adu, there is no arguing with the fact that he is an exciting prospect on the pitch and eminently marketable off it.

It is perhaps the latter that will be most persuasive come next summer, particularly to an American-owned Premiership football team.
 
Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: congo on November 22, 2006, 09:07:19 AM
I still feel Nike had alot to do with this move than football itself...
Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: Trini _2026 on November 22, 2006, 09:12:21 AM
I still feel Nike had alot to do with this move than football itself...

lord yuh saying he shitty ah wah
Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: congo on November 22, 2006, 09:18:39 AM
Definitely Not...I just doesn't rule out the power of marketing in the sports industry...Nike and these brands does have a huge say on things like these...Ask Ronaldo when he swallow he tongue in 98 and still hadda play..
Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: TRUwarrior on November 22, 2006, 08:28:42 PM
Lalas is a hater...if d youth was blonde with blue eyes he woulda congratulate,
if he get thru , the first thing Sir Alex doin is sendin him out on loan.
Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 22, 2006, 10:38:33 PM
Lalas is a hater...if d youth was blonde with blue eyes he woulda congratulate,
if he get thru , the first thing Sir Alex doin is sendin him out on loan.

:applause: My Sentiment exactly. Adu shoulda been playin for some team OUTSIDE the US a lllllllllllllong time ago. If his mother knew anything about football, or was getting good advice from someone that did, she woulda let the boy go to one of them European teams that was knockin' on she door. Whatever Freddy age is, regardless of how much of him is hype as opposed to substance, I applaud him for wanting more out of his own talent at this point than he has been getting. He is finally seeing that the mls msl misled is not a place for young, burgeoning talent such as his. 
Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: spideybuff on November 23, 2006, 07:58:25 AM
Yeah the states always have a issue with size...don't they know that the most used adjective to describe a playmaker is ''dimunitive''?

Messi look big? Steups...Adu, leave as soon as possible...then go play for Ghana and tell the States to haul they so and so.
Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: Filho on November 23, 2006, 09:08:46 AM
Lalas is a hater...if d youth was blonde with blue eyes he woulda congratulate,

And what? If Lalas was black with brown eyes you woulda say he talking sense? Steeups. Look how you hatin' the same way with nothing to back it up. Lalas may be wrong in the end, but he seems to have a point. He not saying Adu shouldn't move abroad, he just wondering if ManU is the right move at this stage of his development. Even the great Ronaldo and Ronaldinho made moves to more modest teams before making the big jump. They were carefully managed. Lalas saying he wants Adu to be managed the same way. He just wants him to be playng instead of becoming lost on a huge team before he was ready. Say wha'...when ManU call it hard to resist, but Lalas has a valid point and he seems to be looking out for American ball...not hating
Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: trinidad badboy on November 23, 2006, 09:35:18 AM

if adu was supposed to be one of the best young players in the world he should have never even been in mls. the reason they dont want him to go europe is beacuse he will not make and will embarass american soccer. he cah make in europe. dem just make him big in america to attract attention.
Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 23, 2006, 10:36:09 AM

if adu was supposed to be one of the best young players in the world he should have never even been in mls. the reason they dont want him to go europe is beacuse he will not make and will embarass american soccer. he cah make in europe. dem just make him big in america to attract attention.

If Freddy Adou cyah make it in Europe, let us find out by him going there and trying and being humled......Like the golden boy landon donovan did. I give the boy credit for finally coming to his senses and seeing where he can better develop his game: ANYWHERE BUT THE MLS MSL MISLED!! I think that Freddy really has come to a realization that, in spite of the US having a decent system of developing their youth players, there is only developing he is going to do here. I don't think that ANYBODY expects Freddy to break into manboo's first team, not even Freddy himself. But I wonder how many of us that are finding fault with Adu (or calling him shit), if one or more of our so-called prodigious children had a chance to watch our children develop in the mls msl misled or ANY CLUB IN EUROPE........which would we choose?
   There are probably many players in the misled that want to go and play overseas, but the way the misled structure their contracts is more restrictive to the players and beneficial to the misled than the players can enjoy.  If Freddy getting a break, then more power to him.   

Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: andre samuel on November 23, 2006, 11:04:23 AM

if adu was supposed to be one of the best young players in the world he should have never even been in mls. the reason they dont want him to go europe is beacuse he will not make and will embarass american soccer. he cah make in europe. dem just make him big in america to attract attention.

I wont say that he cant make it in europe, but i would say that he aint going and be the big star that they are making him out to be.

Just like landon "golden boy" donavan.  Imagine he want to go to the premiership real bad but nobody taking he on atall, especially after what he do in germany.

ah love it!!
Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: Toppa on November 23, 2006, 11:59:09 AM

if adu was supposed to be one of the best young players in the world he should have never even been in mls. the reason they dont want him to go europe is beacuse he will not make and will embarass american soccer. he cah make in europe. dem just make him big in america to attract attention.

As if it could go any lower.  ::)
Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: weary1969 on November 23, 2006, 09:28:49 PM
Ado should just say thanks for the green card and play for Ghana.
Title: Re: Doubts raised in US over Adu move
Post by: congo on November 24, 2006, 03:48:58 AM
The man is just over hyped in America...he eh impress me as yet...
Title: Adu Must Play Waiting Game
Post by: E-man on December 01, 2006, 02:15:10 PM
Adu Must Play Waiting Game
By: Soccer265


01/12/06
 
 Teenage prodigy Freddy Adu must wait until next June to learn whether Manchester United will try to sign him.

The young United States international has just completed a two-week trial with the Old Trafford outfit, during which time he trained with United's academy team.

Adu's stint with United has captured the attention of soccer observers across the Atlantic.

Although Chelsea had also previously expressed an interest in the 17-year-old, who failed to make the Major Soccer League play-offs with DC United this season, his club coach Peter Nowak believes, if the player is set on furthering his career in Europe, he would be better advised moving to Holland.

However, while Adu - the youngest player to be capped by the USA - impressed Ferguson during his time in England, under UK employment legislation, the Red Devils boss cannot even consider whether to offer him a contract until he reaches his 18th birthday on June 2.

"Freddy has done all right," confirmed Ferguson.

"He is a good talented young boy but there is nothing we can do about him.

"What we did was to bring him here to give him an idea of what United was like so he could see the place and see how comfortable he was with it.

"He is a very confident and talented boy but nothing can be done just yet.

"He will go back to the United States and we will keep a check on him. Then, when he is 18, we will have to assess what we can do next."

 
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Filho on December 01, 2006, 02:58:50 PM
All I saying is that for every one Adu America produce...England have 7

Yeah respect dey, ah get yuh point. However, ah doh consider him tuh be an American doh, dat is an African talent we looking at dey. He is like me, ah belong tuh de US presently, but I is ah Trini. If yuh get meh point, ah not trying tuh be difficult. Bless.

Yeh No scene...I didn't really mean it like he being american...I just meant that Adu is the only underage kid u hear the US bigging up...Europe always have some yute man knocking down the door...While in the US is only Adu, Adu uh keep hearing abt...In Europe it have men like rossi, Theo walcott....

Congo...Rossi is an AMERICAN. Born and raised in New Jersey. Italian parents...moved to Italy when he was 16 to join Parma youth team. As much as he will owe his professional development to Parma, manU and newcastle..he is also a product of American 'soccer'...
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Filho on December 01, 2006, 03:09:17 PM
Back in de day, de America team was mostly made up of Americans, now dey get smart and start buying or giving dem men papers to play for dey team.

Most of the US players on the Senior Squad are US grown players, coming through the college and MLS ranks.

Exactly...US 'recruited' a lot more in the past. Players like Roy Wegerle (South Africa), Ernie Stewart (Holland), Thomas Dooley (Germany), Regis (France) don't play for the US anymore. At least Ernie Stewart father was American. Mostly homegrown players now. The US roster at the last world cup probably had more homegrown players than the T&T roster :-[...and doh even start to talk about France, Holland, Angola..even the proud Mexicans. Hargreaves is a Canadian (whose parents are English). You have teams like Germany with Podolski, Klose, Borowski...sons of Polish immigrants...One of Brazil's best midfielders playing for Portugal. Welcome to the age of globalization. The US has one of the most 'local' squads in the global game
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Tongue on December 01, 2006, 08:03:35 PM
Filos, yuh have tuh put Dooley in the gropup with Stewart, as he ole man from wha ah hear is also American...he drop it and left it in Deutschland.  :)
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: Filho on December 01, 2006, 08:06:21 PM
Filos, yuh have tuh put Dooley in the gropup with Stewart, as he ole man from wha ah hear is also American...he drop it and left it in Deutschland. :)

true dat..true dat
Title: Re: Adu heads to ManU
Post by: College on December 01, 2006, 10:00:30 PM
I would hold my judgement as to whether Adu could fit in the Man U scheme of things..allyuh remember Giggs, Man U followed him for years before they decided to bring him on board. Giggsy was lil smally back in the day too. The  two scenarios are remarkably similar..I go jus wait and see, the youth have a strong desire to succeed and although he prefers to operate in the center as opposed to the wing, a good left foot is a good left foot, not many good ones around...bless
Title: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: Cantona007 on December 14, 2006, 11:21:11 AM
Not sure if this was posted...

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,1970806,00.html



Manchester United have effectively ended their interest in Freddy Adu, the 17-year-old touted as the brightest young footballer in the United States. The club say they will continue to monitor the teenager's progress but there are no plans to offer him a move. This has been made clear to Adu, who swapped clubs yesterday in the Major League Soccer.

Adu, who recently had a two-week trial at Old Trafford, has left DC United to join Real Salt Lake, where the general manager Steve Pastorino said the intention was "to keep him here for several years". Adu will be eligible to join a European club when he turns 18 on June 2, but Sir Alex Ferguson is known to have reservations over the teenager's temperament.
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: andre samuel on December 14, 2006, 12:00:19 PM
his temperment? steups!!

Alex knows that he could control Adu if he wants to.

He just not good enough yet!!
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: Bitter on December 14, 2006, 12:07:41 PM
Nooooo!!!!

Im shocked! Shocked!

 ::)
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: trinfax on December 14, 2006, 01:05:55 PM
This shows his advisors probably made an error in letting him sign for an MLS club instead of going to a youth program in Europe. His development there would have helped him better e.g Lionel Messi..
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: Cantona007 on December 14, 2006, 01:10:29 PM
This shows his advisors probably made an error in letting him sign for an MLS club instead of going to a youth program in Europe. His development there would have helped him better e.g Lionel Messi..
Yeah.. they were more interested in chasing the money... oh well...
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: Lightning on December 14, 2006, 02:59:18 PM
Nooooo!!!!

Im shocked! Shocked!

 ::)
Man, take a phensic and relax. Real Madrid and Real Salt lake entering into a partnership. Freddy go be alright. ;D
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 14, 2006, 03:05:48 PM
his temperment? steups!!

Alex knows that he could control Adu if he wants to.

He just not good enough yet!!

Big lie.  That cyar be the real issue when yuh have man like Rooney on yuh roster.  Something ain't click.  Adu's agent is ah greedy man.  Instead of allowing the youth to go to a top academy in Europe and bide his time, he sign him to the MLS so he could collect he agant fee.  Dem agents too damn greedy.
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: duscam on December 14, 2006, 03:59:23 PM
so if you collecting 1 mill plus @ 14 years you go turn it down? steups....
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: Lightning on December 14, 2006, 04:22:01 PM
his temperment? steups!!

Alex knows that he could control Adu if he wants to.

He just not good enough yet!!

Big lie. That cyar be the real issue when yuh have man like Rooney on yuh roster. Something ain't click. Adu's agent is ah greedy man. Instead of allowing the youth to go to a top academy in Europe and bide his time, he sign him to the MLS so he could collect he agant fee. Dem agents too damn greedy.

The temparament issue is not so much if he's a wild man like Rooney. Its more about can he handle being away from home in an environmnet that adult forneigners with proven track records (Shevchenko?) have  a hard enough time adjusting to.  "Talent" isn't everything
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: Observer on December 14, 2006, 07:53:41 PM
ManU can buy whom ever they wish. They do not wish Adu at the moment. Many youths in football at present, as good as or better than Adu and more importantly at a better price.
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: dotless007 on December 14, 2006, 08:09:05 PM
i sure man utd have some youngsters in the youth system probably will be better than adu
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: big dawg on December 14, 2006, 08:11:44 PM
not sure if Real Salt Lake going and make much of a difference in his career.. D.C United has for the most part been a marketable team in the MLS.

Somehow I get the feeling that Adu would stay in the MLS as a mediocre player throughout his career. Even though he might see about 2 or 3 World Cups with the U.S
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: Israel on December 15, 2006, 11:23:47 AM
I think he gone to RSL so he cud be the star on dat team, where everything going through him. He cyah be the star on DCU cuz Jamie Moreno, Escandarian, and the other latin american star ( no. 10) are the 'big players' on the team.
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: Lower St. John on December 15, 2006, 01:16:57 PM
This shows his advisors probably made an error in letting him sign for an MLS club instead of going to a youth program in Europe. His development there would have helped him better e.g Lionel Messi..
His advisors may have been ((and continue to be) more concerned about the MLS product than Adu's development!!!

Blessings
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: Lazie on December 15, 2006, 02:27:46 PM


 Bottom line, Adu is over rated.  Compared to other 17 year olds ... Adu is ordinary.  He is not as good as Walcott, not to mention the young Dos Santos sitting in Barca's reserves.

Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: Trini _2026 on December 15, 2006, 02:43:00 PM


 Bottom line, Adu is over rated. Compared to other 17 year olds ... Adu is ordinary. He is not as good as Walcott, not to mention the young Dos Santos sitting in Barca's reserves.


Adu fell back in the MLS he may end up like donavon
Title: Re: Manchester United End Interest in Adu
Post by: Observer on December 15, 2006, 03:30:09 PM
First to begin Adu going to Real Salt Lake to hook up with his old U17 National Team coach. This may allow him more playing time.

I disagree about Donavon, because he is making big money in LA, more than he would in Germany. At an International level he has been a force for the US squad and one of its most consistent players.
Why go to Germany and be a bit player when you can be a star at home, be comfortable and add some creditability to you home league.
Title: Adu heads U.S. under-20 roster
Post by: Bally on January 08, 2007, 03:23:23 PM
Adu heads U.S. under-20 roster
 
January 8, 2007

CHICAGO (AP) -- Freddy Adu headed the list of 20 players selected Monday for the U.S. roster in qualifying for the FIFA U-20 World Cup.

Michael Bradley, son of interim U.S. national team coach Bob Bradley, was not made available for the qualifying tournament by his Dutch club, Heerenveen, the U.S. Soccer Federation said. Heerenveen did allow forward Robbie Rogers to take part in qualifiers, which will take place from Jan. 17-21 at Panama City, Panama.

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Adu played in the tournament in 2003 and 2005, when it was known as the FIFA World Youth Championship.

Nine of the players selected by under-20 coach Thomas Rongen are professionals, including six from Major League Soccer. Among the pros are forwards Preston Zimmerman of Hamburg in Germany and Johann Smith of Bolton in England.

The Americans gather in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., on Wednesday, leave Saturday for Panama and play Haiti on Jan. 17, Guatemala on Jan. 19 and Panama on Jan. 21. The top two teams in the group advance to the U-20 World Cup, to be played in Canada from June 30-July 22. Two more teams will qualify when Costa Rica, Jamaica, Mexico and St. Kitts and Nevis compete in the other group, from Feb. 21-25 at Culiacan, Mexico.

The roster:

Goalkeepers: Brian Perk (UCLA), Chris Seitz (Maryland)

Defenders: Quavas Kirk (L.A. Galaxy), Ofori Sarkodie (Indiana), Nathan Sturgis (Los Angeles Galaxy), Julian Valentin (Wake Forest), Anthony Wallace (South Florida), Tim Ward (Columbus Crew)

Midfielders: Freddy Adu (Real Salt Lake), Bryan Arguez (West Kendal Optimists), Tony Beltran (UCLA), Amaechi Igwe (Santa Clara), Danny Szetela (Columbus Crew), Jonathan Villanueva (Virginia)

Forwards: Andre Akpan (Harvard), Josmer Altidore (N.Y. Red Bulls), Robbie Rogers (Heerenveen, Netherlands), Johann Smith (Bolton, England), Preston Zimmerman (Hamburg SV, Germany), Sal Zizzo (UCLA).


Defenders: Quavas Kirk (L.A. Galaxy), he was a forward what happen



 
Title: Re: Adu heads U.S. under-20 roster
Post by: Andre on January 09, 2007, 08:30:57 AM
that is a real immigrant side. look at them names.
Title: Re: Adu heads U.S. under-20 roster
Post by: dwolfman on January 09, 2007, 08:37:32 AM
I thought Adu was a striker.
Title: Re: Adu heads U.S. under-20 roster
Post by: Flex on January 09, 2007, 09:01:39 AM
I thought Adu was a striker.

What about Quavas Kirk ? I taught he was one too.... 8)
Title: Adu Goes to College
Post by: elan on February 16, 2007, 10:13:22 AM
Fro Adu steps out from under his brother's shadow

It's rare that Fro Adu has the opportunity to achieve a soccer first in his family. Such is life when one's older brother is one of the biggest stars ever to emerge on the U.S. soccer scene.

"Some people would think I would be jealous and stuff like that, but that's just not the type of people that we are," Adu said of being the younger brother of Freddy Adu. "If he was in my shoes, he would be the exact same way. I know it's because of the way my mom raised us. I'm just happy because it's like, 'Wow, he's doing his thing and I'm his brother.'"


Now, it's Fro's turn to do "his thing." He has committed to play at George Mason University next fall.


"First of all, it's great because I'm going to college," Adu said. "That makes my mom happy because Freddy didn't go to college. He did the soccer thing."


By "doing the soccer thing," Adu was referring to how his older brother became the youngest player to sign an MLS contract when he joined D.C. United at 14.


While playing at the Division I level might not stack up in many people's minds to playing in the pros, it should be noted that Fro Adu is a 15-year-old high school senior.


"I can't even drive next year when I go to college," Adu said. "How messed up is that? My whole high school years I couldn't even drive."


He might not be able to drive, but he can play. His current club coach, Pete Mehlert, has no qualms about his young player's readiness.


"His experience, maybe it rubbed off from Freddy, maybe from the national team and all that, I think bodes well for his readiness for the next level," said Mehlert, coach of the Potomac Cougars U-17 team.


Previously the men's soccer coach at American University, Mehlert knows a thing or two when it comes to determining a player's ability to compete at the collegiate level. A number of coaches from top college programs agreed with Mehlert's assessment. Adu's skills drew interest from schools across the nation, including North Carolina, Wake Forest and Virginia. Proximity to home, the chance to help build the program and the Patriots' coaching staff led Adu to choose Mason -- against Freddy's urging.


"He was always like, 'Fro, go to an ACC school," Adu said. "He's big time. ... But my brother didn't really have a big influence on me. It was all my mom because I honestly was not going to listen to him about college. I was like, 'Don't you tell me about college. You didn't go to college.' But he was happy. It's very close, too, so he can come watch games if he's home."


Adu's current coach is also looking forward to getting a chance to watch him play at Mason.


"George Mason is very lucky to be getting his service as a player," Mehlert said. "He's a born leader. He makes our team play more like a team. He's a two-way player on the field. He helps out on the attack and defends. He organizes his teammates. ... He's more than ready [to play at the next level] because he's physically very gifted."


Mehlert isn't the only person that recognizes Fro Adu's ability. Will Nord, who coaches the FC DELCO U-17 club team out of Eastern Pennsylvania, faces Adu's Cougars at least once a year.


"Fro Adu is a very nice player," Nord said. "His technical skill is solid and he has a good understanding of the game. I have always thought it must be very tough for him to basically be in the shadow of his brother. It looks as if Fro is in a nice situation at Potomac though."


While Fro has spent most of his soccer career having to deal with being "Freddy Adu's younger brother,'' he's been able to escape that when playing on his own team.


"It was never an issue," Mehlert said. "For me as a coach, he's on our team. Freddy is a nonentity. [Having Fro has] been a blessing for our team."


Not that Fro minds being Freddy's little brother.


"All you can do is be happy and just watch him be successful because no matter what, it's going to be like, 'Hey, you're Freddy's brother,'" Fro Adu said. "I'm just like, 'Yeah, I'm Freddy's brother.' It's all positive to me, no negative. I definitely look up to him. That's your brother. He's always going to be your brother regardless."


Of course, when Freddy Adu is one's brother, the thrill of him being Freddy Adu wears off quite quickly. Having a chance to play one-on-one with the young phenom is an opportunity most amateur soccer players would love to have. Growing up, Fro usually took a pass.


"Surprisingly, him and I have never really played together," the younger Adu said. "He was always like, 'Fro, let's go outside,' but I was lazy back in the day."


Of course, at 15, back in the day refers to second grade, Adu clarified. By the end of grammar school, Fro started to buckle down when it came to soccer, in part inspired by his older brother's success.


"I was like, 'You know what? I can see myself doing this in the future,'" Adu recalled. "Which is what I'm doing now."


But Fro Adu credits his work ethic to another family member.


"That mentality came from my mom," he said.


His mother, Emelia, moved her two sons to the United States from Ghana when Freddy was 8 and Fro was 6. She worked double shifts at McDonald's, Target and Home Depot to provide a better life for her children. With Freddy's success as a professional player, their mother no longer needs to work. Fro is looking to contribute in his own way.


"It's like my brother's helping out [financially], and I kind of look at it as, 'OK, Fro, now it's your turn to do something,'" he said. "Being able to see [my mother] see me and be like, 'Both of my sons are doing something really big.' Those are one of the goals and one of the things that drive me to go to college and become better educated and become a better soccer player."


That means a lot to his mother.


"She's very big on education," Fro explained. "That's why we came over here, to get a better life, especially an education. She really couldn't do anything about the Freddy thing because he's a diamond in the rough, but I guess she was kind of looking to me to bring that to the family -- the whole college thing."


It's a role Fro Adu is proud to tackle. Unlike many highly talented players currently entering college, he plans to get his degree.


"I'm not going to say that I'm not going to look at a possibility if anything happens, but right now, I'm focusing on graduating college," he said. "And regardless, even if I left early, I would definitely finish college."


He qualified that by saying it would be a four-year degree, as opposed to the major his mother is hoping he'll pursue.


"She keeps telling me, 'Fro, you've got to be a doctor,'" Adu said. "I'm like, 'Mom, I'm not going to school for eight years.'"


The midfielder is still uncertain what he'll study when he starts school, but he's sure of one thing.


"Honestly, I don't know exactly what I'm going to be," Adu said. "All I know is I'm going to be someone."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=408372&root=ncaa&cc=5901

Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: Filho on February 16, 2007, 12:39:54 PM
small man is a genius...college at 15? maybe I didn't read that right. Anyhow..Fredi was on an accelerated program and graduated from high scholl at 14. Not bad
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: kingman on February 16, 2007, 12:44:04 PM
He is "15" You know how them Africans does operate? If you see him you would know he is not "15"

Anyways, he is a defensive player...unlike his brother. He plays wing back or defensive mid.

Kingman
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: slates on February 16, 2007, 02:04:09 PM
But if he is Freddy's younger brother, how old could he be?
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: kounty on February 16, 2007, 02:08:33 PM
He is "15" You know how them Africans does operate? If you see him you would know he is not "15"

Anyways, he is a defensive player...unlike his brother. He plays wing back or defensive mid.

Kingman

in case anybody was wondering, this is the prototype of "STEREOTYPING". Anybody who wishes for more lessons on how to do this more efficiently, see Kingman.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: elan on February 16, 2007, 02:12:21 PM
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Quote from: kingman on Today at 01:44:04 PM
He is "15" You know how them Africans does operate? If you see him you would know he is not "15"

Anyways, he is a defensive player...unlike his brother. He plays wing back or defensive mid.

Kingman


in case anybody was wondering, this is the prototype of "STEREOTYPING". Anybody who wishes for more lessons on how to do this more efficiently, see Kingman.   


Nah man, look at the man on that photo they have alongside the story. He look like he wuk ah good few ten days.
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: Fyzoman on February 16, 2007, 04:24:47 PM
yo! i have experience wid dem african and dey lying bout dey age dread, now, not to say that adu and he lil brother lying eh, BUT!! ah know a lil bit bout dem african and dey lying ways
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: kounty on February 16, 2007, 05:16:32 PM
yo! i have experience wid dem african and dey lying bout dey age dread, now, not to say that adu and he lil brother lying eh, BUT!! ah know a lil bit bout dem african and dey lying ways

cool, well while you at it you could tell everybody bout yuh experiences with dem indian and dey corrupt tiefin ways, or dem chiney and dem stingey ways, dem black people with dey lazy ways, and dem white people ....somebody help me out here....
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: doc on February 16, 2007, 05:25:04 PM
From my interaction with the young man over the past 2 season, i can say that his social interactions are consistant with his quoted age. He was good enough to be named the captain of G Perp High School for those two seasons as well.
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: kingman on February 16, 2007, 07:02:56 PM
He is "15" You know how them Africans does operate? If you see him you would know he is not "15"

Anyways, he is a defensive player...unlike his brother. He plays wing back or defensive mid.

Kingman

in case anybody was wondering, this is the prototype of "STEREOTYPING". Anybody who wishes for more lessons on how to do this more efficiently, see Kingman.  :beermug:

 ::) Hear John Kant.

I know Fro.....seen him personally.....spoke to him......spoke to his closes American teammates and they to had a lot of doubt about his age. I know after seeing him and his features that he aint no 15. Why you think his parents did not feel comfortable having them take bone marrow test a couple years ago to identify their real age? Steups!!

Let me tell you something. I played with a young man from Somalia and we was having a conversation after a game. I asked him his age....he said his real age is 18 but his American age is 16. He was not even shame or nervous while telling me.

I also had a another close friend from Nigeria who was "19" and his real age was 21. He too was open about his real age. He even went as far as saying that the Ghanians are the ones who are known for changing their age.

I not saying ALL of them does do it...a very large percentage of them change their age before leaving for other countries.

Sterotyping? Ok John....

Kingman
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: Ponnoxx on February 16, 2007, 07:14:22 PM
 Fabien Lewis I believe went to that school and had a great season...Anyhow on the issue of Africans changing their age...I can't say every African change his age but over there it is quite prevalent...Some guys just have a hard face(doh mean they old)..like Obafemi Martins ...I never really see the guy in real life so I can't say...but 15 years is very young to playing College ball(kinda strange)....Freddy Adu needs to leave America now in my opinion...
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 16, 2007, 07:17:24 PM
From my interaction with the young man over the past 2 season, i can say that his social interactions are consistant with his quoted age. He was good enough to be named the captain of G Perp High School for those two seasons as well.

so doc how come he eh get call up fuh the US on the under 17 team he could play in the ncaa and cyar make the us under 17....
 
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: kingman on February 16, 2007, 07:27:59 PM
From my interaction with the young man over the past 2 season, i can say that his social interactions are consistant with his quoted age. He was good enough to be named the captain of G Perp High School for those two seasons as well.

so doc how come he eh get call up fuh the US on the under 17 team he could play in the ncaa and cyar make the us under 17....
 


He was called up for the US under 17 pool. Between me and you Triniman, he not as good as his brother. As I mentioned before, he plays a more defensive role. He is technical though....plays simple...control and passes well.

Kingman
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: asylumseeker on February 16, 2007, 09:47:38 PM
Congrats to Fro. I saw some footage of him on FSC several weeks back. The coverage detailed his club team and there was a one on one interview with him as well as perspectives about him provided by his teammates. Everything was in plain view and one could only come away with the impression that the youngster has the pedigree to be not only a solid contributor on the field but a solid human being.

I agree with doc that his behavior seems consistent with his peer group. I also believe that Bounty is dead on (regardless of Kingman's assertions) and I applaud his principles.

It may be difficult for us to fathom, but age manipulations sometimes stem from the need to meet certain criteria when trying to migrate or fulfill refugee or similar status.

I am familiar with the case of a Kurdish girl born in Turkey, who, upon her parents emigration to Germany found that she carried her sister's name. Later, because of benefits offered by the German state, her mother revised her age downwards or upwards (can't recall right now). 

Some of these decisons are bred out of practicality and survival. At the same time, there are certain hereditary factors that may challenge our understanding of what 15 is or is not.
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: asylumseeker on February 16, 2007, 10:13:06 PM
Incidentally, Mehlert is Nakhid's former college coach.
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 16, 2007, 11:15:37 PM
But if he is Freddy's younger brother, how old could he be?

   About 20  ;D
Title: Re: Adu Goes to College
Post by: asylumseeker on February 19, 2007, 03:48:58 PM
Adu's FIFA recognized birthdate is June 02, 1989.

I guess he's 17 until further notice.
Title: Adu For Europe
Post by: royal on July 23, 2007, 07:52:39 AM
Coach Jason Kreis watched from a suite high above the field to assess the way his newest players were getting acquainted for Real Salt Lake in its 2-0 exhibition victory over Everton of the English Premier League in front of 12,221 at Rice-Eccles Stadium on Saturday night.
    But the real drama involved the players who weren't there.
    Midfielder Freddy Adu did not attend the game as expected, amid his agent's intensifying efforts to arrange a transfer for RSL's highest-profile and highest-paid player to a prominent European team - a move that could occur within days.
    Sources confirmed media reports that Adu is most likely headed to Benfica in Portugal, in part because of how difficult it would be for him to obtain a work permit to play for either of the other two teams most interested in him, Celtic FC in Scotland or Tottenham Hotspur in England.
    However, Adu and his agent still must work out a transfer fee with Major League Soccer - the league owns the contracts of all its players - in addition to the details of a personal contract with any potential employer. Media reports have said the league wants $7.5 million for the rights to Adu, a price that might be viewed as too steep for a player who, despite his star turn at the recent Under-20 World Cup, has done little for RSL.
   


Source:cnnsi
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: AB.Trini on July 23, 2007, 08:16:52 AM
In the recent u20 tournament, I noticed that Adu, lacked a certain strength on the ball. It appears that many times he was easily  pushed off when he had possession. The talent is obviously there but the dominance was not overpowering as say a Capel.
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: truetrini on July 23, 2007, 08:30:58 AM
In the recent u20 tournament, I noticed that Adu, lacked a certain strength on the ball. It appears that many times he was easily pushed off when he had possession. The talent is obviously there but the dominance was not overpowering as say a Capel.

Your TV needs a new anttena
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: Andre on July 23, 2007, 09:31:07 AM
now for the real test. leh we see what freddy do in europe...he need some size though.

i bet altidore next.
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: weary1969 on July 23, 2007, 11:55:27 AM
That Under 20 is the best I ever see Adu look. He can only improve in Europe
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: Bakes on July 23, 2007, 01:06:36 PM
In the recent u20 tournament, I noticed that Adu, lacked a certain strength on the ball. It appears that many times he was easily pushed off when he had possession. The talent is obviously there but the dominance was not overpowering as say a Capel.

Your TV needs a new anttena
:rotfl: :rotfl:

Oh gawd...doh kill we.  But yeah, Freddy did very well playing advanced mid-field and I remember making the comment that the US may have found an answer to replace the retired Claudio Reyna.  Freddy is still only 5'7 150 lbs...so of course he could do with getting a little stronger.
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: Baygo Boy on July 23, 2007, 01:09:35 PM
Yuh mean he going Europe on vacation, ah envy him  ;D :rotfl:
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: fari on July 23, 2007, 01:22:46 PM
to add a new dimension to the debate, here is an article i found today about what the Ghanaian FA is doing to try to get the best players to play for them.  supposedly some 16 year old is now in inter milan's first team and is eligible to play for the black stars although he grew up in italy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/africa/6912366.stm
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: futbolfan on July 23, 2007, 01:32:57 PM
In the recent u20 tournament, I noticed that Adu, lacked a certain strength on the ball. It appears that many times he was easily  pushed off when he had possession. The talent is obviously there but the dominance was not overpowering as say a Capel.

Your TV needs a new anttena
:rotfl: :rotfl:

Oh gawd...doh kill we.  But yeah, Freddy did very well playing advanced mid-field and I remember making the comment that the US may have found an answer to replace the retired Claudio Reyna.  Freddy is still only 5'7 150 lbs...so of course he could do with getting a little stronger.

ah don't really think he could replace Reyna or play that position at the senior level.... most of his forays are made down the flanks, and he is most effective when he is isolated on the wings...added to that his crossing ability has improved tremendously...He wants to play the attacking midfield role, but like Peter Nowak stated this is not his natural position..... :beermug:
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: Bakes on July 23, 2007, 01:51:52 PM
In the recent u20 tournament, I noticed that Adu, lacked a certain strength on the ball. It appears that many times he was easily pushed off when he had possession. The talent is obviously there but the dominance was not overpowering as say a Capel.

Your TV needs a new anttena
:rotfl: :rotfl:

Oh gawd...doh kill we. But yeah, Freddy did very well playing advanced mid-field and I remember making the comment that the US may have found an answer to replace the retired Claudio Reyna. Freddy is still only 5'7 150 lbs...so of course he could do with getting a little stronger.

ah don't really think he could replace Reyna or play that position at the senior level.... most of his forays are made down the flanks, and he is most effective when he is isolated on the wings...added to that his crossing ability has improved tremendously...He wants to play the attacking midfield role, but like Peter Nowak stated this is not his natural position..... :beermug:

I can't disagree, and indeed attacking mostly down the left flank is what we have come to know him for.  I was real impressed though that he seemed hungry to step into the leadership role...especially given the void in mid-field for that squad.  As for whether he can fill the role higher up, who knows...we won't know for sure until he's put in that position...but I'm happy for him and the fact that he's seemingly jump-started his career.  Never a fan, but always a supporter of the yute.
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: futbolfan on July 25, 2007, 11:09:53 AM

Real Salt Lake midfielder Freddy Adu will be playing in MLS for at least a little while longer.

The league and Benfica reached an agreement on a $2 million transfer fee for the 18-year-old American, but Adu and the Portuguese club could not work out contract terms, a person familiar with the negotiations said.

FIFA's transfer deadline is Aug. 31, meaning a deal still could be resurrected.

courtesy of the Washingtonpost
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: 2cents on July 25, 2007, 11:19:36 AM
Something tells me Real Salt Lake don't really mind lose Adu, I get the feelin he will surely leave b4 d window close. He really impressed in d world cup along wid Altidore, Szetela, d keepa (cyar remember his name) and finally Zizzo who I jus read has signed in Germany. It will be good for US game in the next 5 yrs if all these youngsters develop abroad (although as NY Red Bulls season ticket holder Altidore could stay a next 2 yrs selfishly). bless

HANOVER, Germany (AP) - Sal Zizzo, a U.S. under-20 midfielder, has signed a three-year contract with Hannover 96, the Bundesliga club said Wednesday.

Zizzo, who joined on a free transfer, played for UCLA and Orange County Blue Star.
Hannover finished 11th in the German first division last season.         
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: Bakes on July 25, 2007, 06:12:40 PM
Something tells me Real Salt Lake don't really mind lose Adu, I get the feelin he will surely leave b4 d window close. He really impressed in d world cup along wid Altidore, Szetela, d keepa (cyar remember his name) and finally Zizzo who I jus read has signed in Germany. It will be good for US game in the next 5 yrs if all these youngsters develop abroad (although as NY Red Bulls season ticket holder Altidore could stay a next 2 yrs selfishly). bless

HANOVER, Germany (AP) - Sal Zizzo, a U.S. under-20 midfielder, has signed a three-year contract with Hannover 96, the Bundesliga club said Wednesday.

Zizzo, who joined on a free transfer, played for UCLA and Orange County Blue Star.
Hannover finished 11th in the German first division last season.


Keeper name was Seitz...he real impressed me as well, though he gave up a bad rebound that allowed Brazil to equalize late in their game (and got hurt on the play, missing the subsequent game against Chile, I believe it was).
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: kicker on July 26, 2007, 06:19:32 AM
Something tells me Real Salt Lake don't really mind lose Adu, I get the feelin he will surely leave b4 d window close. He really impressed in d world cup along wid Altidore, Szetela, d keepa (cyar remember his name) and finally Zizzo who I jus read has signed in Germany. It will be good for US game in the next 5 yrs if all these youngsters develop abroad (although as NY Red Bulls season ticket holder Altidore could stay a next 2 yrs selfishly). bless

HANOVER, Germany (AP) - Sal Zizzo, a U.S. under-20 midfielder, has signed a three-year contract with Hannover 96, the Bundesliga club said Wednesday.

Zizzo, who joined on a free transfer, played for UCLA and Orange County Blue Star.
Hannover finished 11th in the German first division last season.


Keeper name was Seitz...he real impressed me as well, though he gave up a bad rebound that allowed Brazil to equalize late in their game (and got hurt on the play, missing the subsequent game against Chile, I believe it was).

Yeah he shoulda parried it off to the side instead of attempting to drop and hold on to it -in the end up basically coughin' it up dead center in the 6yrd box- the shot had some fire on it, even a senior level keeper would have opted to parry...inexperience I guess. Def showed good reflexes throughout the game though...U.S. keepers have always seemed to be athletic, brave shot stoppers (to the ignorant eye at least)......even when their team was deficient in other parts of the field...
Title: Re: Adu For Europe
Post by: Bakes on July 26, 2007, 09:40:01 AM

Yeah he shoulda parried it off to the side instead of attempting to drop and hold on to it -in the end up basically coughin' it up dead center in the 6yrd box- the shot had some fire on it, even a senior level keeper would have opted to parry...inexperience I guess. Def showed good reflexes throughout the game though...U.S. keepers have always seemed to be athletic, brave shot stoppers (to the ignorant eye at least)......even when their team was deficient in other parts of the field...

I actually thought that that was his solitary mistake all tournament (from what I saw at least). His 17-year old understudy started out shaky in the follow-up game but finished strong as well. I dunno what it is about American keepers, but from Meola (who I never really rated...starting with de ponytail), and more convincingly, Keller, Friedel, Hahnemann and Howard...yanqui keepers were the first to really impress and stamp their names on an international level.

Everything you say about Seitz on that play reflects my own sentiment...exact same criticism I had of Jan Michael in the Digicel game against Haiti. But I cyah get into specifics and thing me eh no goalie...last time I play goalie it was we Lower Six v. de Upper Six and ah ketch 8 in mih ass...by halftime.

So whenever goalkeeping talk come arung I duz juss siddung and occasionally pull out Peter Shilton (mih boyhood idol...along with Jorge) name and smile.
Title: RSL gives Adu permission to go to Portugal
Post by: Mr Mc on July 29, 2007, 10:32:47 AM
RSL gives Adu permission to go to Portugal
/ Associated Press
Posted: 7 hours ago

United States international Freddy Adu was allowed by his Major League Soccer team to go to Portugal in an attempt to complete transfer negotiations with Benfica.
Real Salt Lake gave permission Saturday, team spokesman Trey Fitz-Gerald said.

"It's my understanding Freddy wants to go and visit and meet with their management, see their facilities, before making his final decision," MLS spokesman Dan Courtmanche said.


MLS and Benfica already have agreed to a US $2 million (1.46 million) transfer fee for the 18-year-old forward and midfielder, who captained the U.S. team at this year's FIFA Under-20 World Cup. Under FIFA's rules, the sides have until Aug. 31 to work out a contract and complete a transfer.

"To my knowledge, they're still continuing their discussions," Courtmanche said.

Adu's agent, Richard Motzkin, did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment.

Adu left Salt Lake City on Saturday bound for his family home in Washington and will be headed to Lisbon on Sunday, according to Fitz-Gerald.

Benfica will start play in the European Champions League in the third qualifying round on Aug. 14 or 15. Benfica finished third in the Portuguese League last season after Porto and Sporting Lisbon.
 

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Title: Re: RSL gives Adu permission to go to Portugal
Post by: Andre on July 30, 2007, 08:16:39 AM
l8tr freddy. take some creatine & hit the weights.
Title: Adu debuts for Benfica as Rui Costa shines
Post by: Zeppo on August 15, 2007, 12:12:06 PM
Adu debuts as Rui Costa shines

American starlet Freddie Adu made his European debut for Benfica in the third qualifying round of the Champions League on Tuesday, but it was Rui Costa who stole the show in a 2-1 home win over Copenhagen.

The veteran playmaker, who returned to the Lisbon club last season after 12 years in Italy, scored twice, sandwiching an equalizer from Canada International Atiba Hutchinson.

And with Copenhagen holding an away goal going into next week's second leg, Rui Costa insists Benfica have only got the job half-done, and will have to stick to their attacking principles.

(continue) (http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=txbenficaadu&prov=st&type=lgns)
Title: Re: Adu debuts for Benfica as Rui Costa shines
Post by: KND2 on August 15, 2007, 01:47:07 PM
I guess Adu did not do nothing they aint even mention a lil beats self
Title: Re: Adu debuts for Benfica as Rui Costa shines
Post by: Jah Gol on August 15, 2007, 05:25:18 PM
Rui Costa is a boss. One of my all time favorite players.
Title: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Zeppo on October 21, 2007, 09:12:25 AM
Adu Hits Late Leveler

Fresh off of a much heralded performance with the US National Team in Switzerland, Freddy Adu returned to Benfica to score a stoppage time equalizer in Portuguese Carlsberg Cup play.

The match-up with Vitria Setbal was the first quarterfinal leg, and Adu's goal saved Benfica from the setback of losing the opener at home.

(continue) (http://www.americansoccerdaily.com/news/benvsc201007.htm)
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Zeppo on October 21, 2007, 09:16:58 AM
(http://bp0.blogger.com/_h0wJwR7EfzI/RxqVvxblKvI/AAAAAAAAAHw/E4zkkmzMC5Q/s320/getimage.asp.jpg)
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: WestCoast on October 21, 2007, 10:18:58 AM
Go Freddy
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: asylumseeker on October 21, 2007, 01:39:48 PM
Good news.

Meantime I see that Zeppo remains insistent on force-feeding the medication.

Incidentally, isn't Adu's 'much heralded performance in Switzerland' an exaggeration?
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Zeppo on October 22, 2007, 03:43:46 AM
Video of the goal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVUBt84pNI0)
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: palos on October 22, 2007, 04:04:54 AM
Incidentally, isn't Adu's 'much heralded performance in Switzerland' an exaggeration?

As long as Adu in tugs, daz a much heralded performance fuh Zeppo...AKA "Desperation"   ;)
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 22, 2007, 05:05:52 AM
Good news.

Meantime I see that Zeppo remains insistent on force-feeding the medication.
Incidentally, isn't Adu's 'much heralded performance in Switzerland' an exaggeration?


Allyuh, leave de man, let 'im promote his americans and american "soccer" on de forum, nuh.  ::) De man have a right to do dat. Iz a free world. 
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Bakes on October 22, 2007, 10:29:59 AM
Incidentally, isn't Adu's 'much heralded performance in Switzerland' an exaggeration?

As long as Adu in tugs, daz a much heralded performance fuh Zeppo...AKA "Desperation" ;)
Zeppo didn't write the article...


As for the goal itself...pretty unspectacular goal, but it counts the same.  Good work Freddy.
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: kiffysmooth on October 22, 2007, 12:53:22 PM
If Freddy Adu was really de age dey say he is...den ah might ah give dat goal ah lil props.  Odderwise, is ah ordinary stale goal.  Sorry Zeppo
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Filho on October 22, 2007, 02:02:23 PM
Nice goal

Good for his confidence too. Might see him get a little more time in the Superliga. Benfica is strugglin for goals now that Simao has left and Nuno Gomes is really out of form / consistently injured
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: kicker on October 22, 2007, 02:44:16 PM
If Freddy Adu was really de age dey say he is...den ah might ah give dat goal ah lil props. Odderwise, is ah ordinary stale goal. Sorry Zeppo

Stale goal? Oh boy...

If KJ scored that goal, there'd be 5 threads about it... and all man jack on the forum woulda be voting goal of the week on BBC...
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Bakes on October 22, 2007, 03:08:53 PM
If Freddy Adu was really de age dey say he is...den ah might ah give dat goal ah lil props. Odderwise, is ah ordinary stale goal. Sorry Zeppo

Stale goal? Oh boy...

If KJ scored that goal, there'd be 5 threads about it... and all man jack on the forum woulda be voting goal of the week on BBC...
Lol true talk...

poor Freddy cyah ketch ah break on SW.net
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: asylumseeker on October 22, 2007, 06:41:29 PM
Incidentally, isn't Adu's 'much heralded performance in Switzerland' an exaggeration?

As long as Adu in tugs, daz a much heralded performance fuh Zeppo...AKA "Desperation"   ;)
Zeppo didn't write the article...


As for the goal itself...pretty unspectacular goal, but it counts the same. Good work Freddy.

Just to be clear. I was referring to his minutes and 'near goal' v. the Swiss. In the few minutes he ran he looked decent. I think 'much heralded' is a bit of hyperbole.

Re: the equalizer for Benfica I agree. Good work Freddy. No Freddy hate here.
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Bakes on October 23, 2007, 01:09:23 AM
Incidentally, isn't Adu's 'much heralded performance in Switzerland' an exaggeration?

As long as Adu in tugs, daz a much heralded performance fuh Zeppo...AKA "Desperation" ;)
Zeppo didn't write the article...


As for the goal itself...pretty unspectacular goal, but it counts the same. Good work Freddy.

Just to be clear. I was referring to his minutes and 'near goal' v. the Swiss. In the few minutes he ran he looked decent. I think 'much heralded' is a bit of hyperbole.

Re: the equalizer for Benfica I agree. Good work Freddy. No Freddy hate here.

Nah I really wasn't referencing you there...I too think "much heralded" is a bit much...since nobody was talking about it (casting at least the "much" part into doubt). Folks just start beating on Zeppo as though he was expressing his own opinion, rather than quoting his source. That and Spliffy questioning Freddy's Age...like age has anything to do with his accomplishments. Freddy is talented...and growing, whether he's 18 or 28, he's not getting much run with the Benfica first team since his patron got the axe. So in that light it good to see him making the most of it...you recognize that, but some still want to begrudge him god-knows-what.
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Zeppo on October 23, 2007, 05:08:12 AM
That and Spliffy questioning Freddy's Age...like age has anything to do with his accomplishments.

And strangely no on can seem to offer any kind of possible motive for why he would have faked his age.
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Peong on October 23, 2007, 06:37:27 AM
  That and Spliffy questioning Freddy's Age...like age has anything to do with his accomplishments.

And strangely no on can seem to offer any kind of possible motive for why he would have faked his age.

It should be pretty obvious Zeppo.
And this topic has been mulled on this forum before.
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Zeppo on October 23, 2007, 09:17:44 AM

It should be pretty obvious Zeppo.
And this topic has been mulled on this forum before.

If "mulled" means spouting off crackpot theories and baseless accusations, then yes, it has been.
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Peong on October 23, 2007, 09:22:55 AM
We don't care what you say, so why do you care so much about what we say?
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: asylumseeker on October 23, 2007, 10:53:33 AM
Even if Freddy 'was' older how much older would he be anyway?
Title: Re: Adu scores equalizer in Portuguese Cup
Post by: Midknight on October 23, 2007, 05:14:12 PM
Even if Freddy 'was' older how much older would he be anyway?

old enough to be uneligible for a under 17 tournament (not saying I believe he is)
Title: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: Zeppo on November 25, 2007, 05:07:38 AM
Adu caps Benfica win

Visiting Benfica scored twice in the final four minutes to top Acadmica 3-1 and close to within a point of first place Porto.

Freddy Adu worked the final 27 minutes and fired the insurance goal in the final minute.

The hosts opened the scoring on 24 minutes, with Lito banging home his fifth of the season after Lus Filipe failed to clear a mis-hit Ousmane N'Doye long shot.

(continue) (http://www.americansoccerdaily.com/news/acaben241107.htm)
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: Zeppo on November 25, 2007, 05:27:08 AM
Video of the goal. (http://futebol.videos.sapo.pt/bWwMWKvi89pecr0OGBNZ)
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: Bakes on November 25, 2007, 05:44:14 AM
Adu caps Benfica win

Visiting Benfica scored twice in the final four minutes to top Acadmica 3-1 and close to within a point of first place Porto.

Freddy Adu worked the final 27 minutes and fired the insurance goal in the final minute.

The hosts opened the scoring on 24 minutes, with Lito banging home his fifth of the season after Lus Filipe failed to clear a mis-hit Ousmane N'Doye long shot.

(continue) (http://www.americansoccerdaily.com/news/acaben241107.htm)

There goes that insidious American contrivance again...the "insurance goal", lol. Good going Freddy...give them hell.

Nice turn around to for Benfica...coincidence or not the managerial changes seemingly has worked wonders.

Freddy scoring some weak goals...but say what, all that matters is that you keep the opposing keeper busy retrieving balls out the back of his own net  :beermug:
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: freakazoid on November 25, 2007, 07:40:22 AM
that was ah googly..........the ball hit the post come back nfront d line then spin behind it
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: Midknight on November 25, 2007, 08:33:22 AM
Adu caps Benfica win

Visiting Benfica scored twice in the final four minutes to top Acadmica 3-1 and close to within a point of first place Porto.

Freddy Adu worked the final 27 minutes and fired the insurance goal in the final minute.

The hosts opened the scoring on 24 minutes, with Lito banging home his fifth of the season after Lus Filipe failed to clear a mis-hit Ousmane N'Doye long shot.

(continue) (http://www.americansoccerdaily.com/news/acaben241107.htm)

There goes that insidious American contrivance again...the "insurance goal", lol. 

You're the one that brought it up so don't blame me for following it up - The fact that its a site called americansoccerdaily.com has nothing to do with the choice of the term I'll assume...but any thoughts on the word 'netminder' ?
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: Zeppo on November 25, 2007, 09:13:27 AM
(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/76/fullj.0996a6451e0889aa1c6f97ad8f0267fd/0996a6451e0889aa1c6f97ad8f0267fd-getty-fbl-port-academica-sl-benfica.jpg)
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: asylumseeker on November 25, 2007, 09:24:08 AM
Bakes, nah man, doh call that 'weak' so fass nuh.

Look at the decision in execution and timing. Arguably, a second later and he may have been in the keeper's timing. He hit it when Ricardo had probably the least chance of getting set. Furthermore, I think the goal has to be evaluated on Adu's movement off the ball as well.

Am, Zeppo ... are you Freddy's cousin or agent?

 
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: fatimarima on November 25, 2007, 11:08:26 AM
There was nothing "weak" about that goal.  Very good execution. 
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: Bakes on November 25, 2007, 12:04:32 PM


You're the one that brought it up so don't blame me for following it up - The fact that its a site called americansoccerdaily.com has nothing to do with the choice of the term I'll assume...but any thoughts on the word 'netminder' ?
Lol...nah, I deliberately say dat with you in mind, so no scenes  :beermug:

"netminder"...I hear dat on FSC too...lol.  Nah...dat one they clearly borrow from Hockey.
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: Bakes on November 25, 2007, 12:11:04 PM
Bakes, nah man, doh call that 'weak' so fass nuh.

Look at the decision in execution and timing. Arguably, a second later and he may have been in the keeper's timing. He hit it when Ricardo had probably the least chance of getting set. Furthermore, I think the goal has to be evaluated on Adu's movement off the ball as well.

Am, Zeppo ... are you Freddy's cousin or agent?

 
doh get mih wrong pardna...I not disparaging neither Freddy nor his goals, in fact I want the yute to light it up.  I use the term 'weak' to describe neither Freddy's ability nor the execution of the shot/s...but rather to say that the shots lack power in the last two goals I've seen from him.  They kinda end up dribbling over the goal. 
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: elan on November 25, 2007, 03:12:21 PM
NIce goal, good strike.
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: KND2 on November 26, 2007, 05:45:42 AM
That is the second powder puff goal i see freedy score.

Take care the CIA paying goal keepers to let them go in.

American interest come first anything is possible.
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: Midknight on November 26, 2007, 05:50:51 AM
That is the second powder puff goal i see freedy score.

Take care the CIA paying goal keepers to let them go in.

American interest come first anything is possible.

If that was the case, they would've win the world cup in 94 man...yuh doh think?
you have to admit that was some serious backspin on that ball though
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: Bakes on November 26, 2007, 09:44:27 PM
That is the second powder puff goal i see freedy score.

Take care the CIA paying goal keepers to let them go in.

American interest come first anything is possible.

If that was the case, they would've win the world cup in 94 man...yuh doh think?
you have to admit that was some serious backspin on that ball though

Front-spin yuh mean.  De result of de touch on both the keeper and de near-post obviously.
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: Bakes on November 26, 2007, 09:45:18 PM
That is the second powder puff goal i see freedy score.

Take care the CIA paying goal keepers to let them go in.

American interest come first anything is possible.

If that was the case, they would've win the world cup in 94 man...yuh doh think?
you have to admit that was some serious backspin on that ball though

Forward-spin yuh mean. De result of de touch on both the keeper and de near-post obviously.
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: asylumseeker on December 10, 2007, 02:15:00 AM
Zeppo, wha'happen, you on a break this weekend?

**
The education of an American soccer player, Freddy Adu, continues in Portugal.

The first thing about being in Europe is that you would not survive at a place like this unless you pay attention to every single detail and work hard every day, Adu said last week in a telephone interview from Lisbon, where he plays for Benfica. It is a very competitive environment, and everyone is a good player. No ones place is guaranteed. You have to come to work every day, and thats what makes you a better player constant competition.

Adu left the relative comfort and security of Real Salt Lake and Major League Soccer in August on a $2 million transfer to Benfica, perhaps the most successful club in Portugal. But he has played sporadically. He became the youngest American to play in the European Champions League on Oct. 24, against visiting Glasgow Celtic. Benfica has been eliminated from the Champions League and is in second place in the Portuguese league.

It doesnt matter whether I play 2, 5, 30 or 90 minutes, Im still going to go out there with the same mentality, Adu said. Hopefully Ill get in the starting 11 sooner rather than later. But right now, Im happy with my development.


Adu, who turned 18 in June, said his adjustment to a new country had not been without pitfalls. At first, I was not sure about it, he said. But I realized that I have to grow up sometime. I made the jump to Europe, something I wanted to do, and now I couldnt be happier.

Ive had to grow up out of necessity. I live here by myself. In America, it was like I was in a bubble everything was there for me. Now its just about being a man.

Adu was with the United States national team recently, starting in a 1-0 victory against South Africa on Nov. 17 in Johannesburg. He said he hoped to remain an integral part of Coach Bob Bradleys plans for next years World Cup qualifying matches and, ultimately, take another trip to South Africa for the 2010 tournament.

I would be disappointed if Im not on that team, he said. I really, really want to achieve that goal and will do whatever it takes. Im going to work hard and do whatever Bob asks me to do.

(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/12/04/sports/04soccer2.190.jpg)
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: Zeppo on December 10, 2007, 04:07:32 AM
Uh oh! I've been slipping!

Thanks for getting my back, asylumseeker!

 ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Adu caps Benfica win
Post by: asylumseeker on December 10, 2007, 04:49:52 AM
Quote
Uh oh! I've been slipping!

Thanks for getting my back, asylumseeker!

;) ;D


Zep, try not to make it a habit. :-X ;D
Title: Adu scores twice; U.S. secures Olympic berth
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 20, 2008, 10:11:35 PM
Adu scores twice; U.S. secures Olympic berthAssociated Press
Updated: March 20, 2008, 10:16 PM EST add this RSS blog email print NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - Freddy Adu scored twice on free kicks, and the U.S. Under-23 team earned an Olympic berth Thursday night by beating Canada 3-0 in the CONCACAF qualifying semifinals.

 Sacha Klejstan also scored in a victory that gives the Americans their seventh berth in eight Olympics dating to 1980, with 2004 the lone miss in that stretch.

Honduras took the other berth in Beijing in the earlier semifinal in a 0-0 tie decided 6-5 on penalty kicks.

The Canadians missed qualifying for the Olympics again in a drought that stretches to 1984. They earned a spot in the semifinal by beating Guatemala 5-0 last weekend in Group B qualifying, but had trouble generating any offense against the Americans.

The United States, which had allowed only one goal in Group A qualifying, took the first four shots with most of the Americans' offense set up by fouls on Jozy Altidore.

Nikolas Ledgerwood tripped Altidore, and Adu scored on a free kick in the 27th minute for a 1-0 lead.

Goalie Joshua Wagenaar caught the ball on another free kick by Adu in the 42nd minute. But he couldn't stop Adu on another free kick opportunity in the 47th minute when Andrew Hainault was given a yellow card for a collision when he stuck out his leg and collided with Altidore's knee.

Adu's kick cleared a line of defenders and bent away from the goalie into the right corner of the goal for a 2-0 lead. He ran over to the end line and was smothered by his teammates in celebration.

Altidore picked up a yellow card himself in the 66th minute for tripping Dejan Jakovic. But a few seconds later, he gave the U.S. the chance at another goal as he dribbled the ball down the right side and passed to Adu in front of the goal only to see Adu's kick go just wide.

Adu also set up the third goal with a long pass from midfield to Stuart Holden, and he passed over to Kljestan who scored from just in front in the 78th minute.

U.S. coach Peter Nowak substituted in the 76th minute, pulling Altidore for Charlie Davies. Adu, the tournament's leading scorer with four goals, went to the bench himself in the 82nd minute, replaced by Eddie Gaven.

Canada's best scoring chance came on a pass by Will Johnson, who came in with three goals in this tournament, to Andrazes Ornoch. But Ornoch's header didn't come close to the goal in the 68th minute. Tosaint Ricketts got around defender Jonathan Spector only to have Marvell Wynne clear the ball from him near the goal.

The U.S. improved to 4-2-1 against Canada in Olympic qualifying.
Title: Re: Adu scores twice; U.S. secures Olympic berth
Post by: palos on March 20, 2008, 10:32:30 PM
I would have sworn Winnipeg Fury would have been the first to post this result and report on this site.  8)
Title: Re: Adu scores twice; U.S. secures Olympic berth
Post by: elan on March 20, 2008, 11:32:50 PM
The 2 games was shite......was not worth the trip. If that is the future of CONCACAF then we in trouble and in no way deserve to have 4 WC spots.
Title: Re: Adu scores twice; U.S. secures Olympic berth
Post by: asylumseeker on March 21, 2008, 03:20:24 AM
The 2 games was shite......was not worth the trip. If that is the future of CONCACAF then we in trouble and in no way deserve to have 4 WC spots.

Elan it seems yuh was dey in the flesh ...

Yuh not going to get fully open play with so much @ stake. I didn't see a lot of negative tactics employed during the Canada v US match and - although I didn't see regulation play or most of extra time - my sense is that the approach was similar during the other semi-final.

Buh doh be so pessimistic, both teams will supplement their squads with 3 senior players and perhaps other personnel and some present contributors won't make the final Olympic squads.

***
One of the things I thought about during this tourney concerns how hamstrung our effort to make it to Beijing was. Someone correct me if my recollection is off, but I don't recall a player like Julius James being involved in the process. I remember making the comment in relation to the US college season and player availability. I'm hoping dahis what it boiled down to, and not something more insidious.

When one considers the ability/foresight/communication of the US to be able to secure the services of Johnathan Spector from West Ham for this stage of the tournament it makes some of our logistical handicaps look like self-inflicted wounds.

***
Looking at individual players, my observation is that there were several eye-catching players and talents that are going to come along the CONCACAF conveyor belt. Whether 4 WC spots or three, improvement seems to be the order of the day. Right now iz 2 Olympic spots and ah really feel the best 2 have come through on all the info available ... Cuba didn't provide a full dossier buh still ...
Title: Re: Adu scores twice; U.S. secures Olympic berth
Post by: Zeppo on March 21, 2008, 03:31:08 AM
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080321/capt.e020c43726f941639ea7e9210fe51d59.concacaf_canada_us_soccer_tnbw117.jpg)

(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080321/capt.6e840cc7ce1140f68816ca2e6484e6ca.concacaf_canada_us_soccer_tnbw115.jpg)

(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080321/capt.ff5f42adb5a94f7a8ec48f656a01e77b.concacaf_canada_us_soccer_tnbw116.jpg)
Title: Re: Adu scores twice; U.S. secures Olympic berth
Post by: asylumseeker on March 21, 2008, 03:39:38 AM
Zeppo 3 - Winnipeg Fury 0
Title: Re: Adu scores twice; U.S. secures Olympic berth
Post by: Zeppo on March 21, 2008, 07:10:12 AM
Adu headlines a dominating team effort

Following the United States' 3-0 semifinal defeat of Canada in the men's Olympic qualifying tournament, Canadian head coach Nick Dasovic was asked what he thought of Freddy Adu's ability on free kicks. He responded with a wry smile, "I hate it!" The Americans love it, however, as Adu tallied twice from set pieces to help them punch their ticket to the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing.

That Adu donned the hero's cape was nothing new. Ever since the tournament began the Benfica attacker has been the Americans' steadiest and highest performing player. What was different about this match was that almost every one of Adu's teammates performed at a similar level, dominating the Canadians from the outset, and winning the high-stakes match in a walk.

(continue) (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=518451&root=us&cc=5739)
Title: Re: Adu scores twice; U.S. secures Olympic berth
Post by: che on March 21, 2008, 08:21:57 AM
I would have sworn Winnipeg Fury would have been the first to post this result and report on this site.  8)

Peggy only comes around when times are good, for  the semi's de man post about 20 times in one min. Now nothing ???
I know peggy it hurts but this is life, you must be Strong my frozen brother . deep down inside I know that you wish that you were Trini thats why you love to post here. You want to be part of a real football family so all I can say to you is learn the words of Forge from the love of liberty  :salute: and also I am ah Soca Warrior  :wavetowel: and you will feel better.
Title: Re: Adu scores twice; U.S. secures Olympic berth
Post by: Filho on March 21, 2008, 12:25:45 PM
US national soccer team pool is increasingly deep. Many on that Under 23 team seeing decent time on the senior national team
Title: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Flex on January 07, 2010, 07:55:41 PM
Counterattack: Should Eddie Johnson and/or Freddy Adu Have Come Back To MLS Instead Of Joining Aris?

The moves of the two Americans is up for debate in the latest "Counterattack."

This week, Fulham and Benfica, respectively, loaned out-of-sorts Americans Eddie Johnson and Freddy Adu to Aris. Each one has earned caps on the United States National Team but have since fallen out of favor.

Johnson and Adu will attempt to find their form at the Greek Club in hopes of making the U.S.'s World Cup roster. Goal.com's Greg Lalas and Noah Davis debate whether the loans were a good move.

Greg Lalas: I say yes and no, if that's allowed here. Adu should've come back; Johnson made a good move.

Noah Davis: I like that they both stayed abroad. Whether it's true or not, returning to MLS looks like they've been defeated by Europe.

Lalas: That's true, it does look that way, but it doesn't mean that's the case.

Here's my thinking on EJ: He needs to play somewhere out of the limelight for a little while, get kicked around in a difficult environment, where he is very far out of his comfort zone. A place where he doesn't speak the local language or his manager's language. He will have to do all his talking with his play.

It reminds me of when he was shipped off to Kansas City by Dallas. That move seemed to ignite him.

Davis: Do they not speak English in Kansas City?

Lalas: Not when their mouths are full of barbecue from Arthur Bryant's.

Davis: It's not as though he found a comfort zone in England, either.

Lalas: In northern Greece, he will have prove himself in a way he's not accustomed to. The league is not glamorous. It's just football. Just a job.

Davis: Playing Devil's advocate -- I agree this is a good move -- but what makes you think he won't crumble under the pressure in Greece?

Lalas: Because there is less pressure. Less pressure to become the next Clint Dempsey. Less pressure to become the next Dwight Yorke. Less pressure to be anything except a soccer player. Score goals, learn the game. And that's why the specific move to Aris is such a good one.

Davis: At 25, he's running out of time to learn the game. And if this league is so rough and tumble as you say, where exactly is he going to learn?

Lalas: In some ways, yes. In some ways, no. I don't think he ever took the time to learn the game when he was younger. He relied on his natural abilities.

It's a rough league, but Aris still tries to play football. They won 3-0 away to Atromitos this week, by the way. It's the most international team in Greece, with loads of South Americans.

Davis: And an Argentine manager.

Lalas: Hector Cuper has lots of experience and lots of sway. He wouldn't say yes to a player -- let alone, an American -- unless he felt like he could use him.

Saying that, Johnson's going to have to be very good to unseat Javier Campora up top.

Basically, I think that Aris, in particular, is a good landing place for him, where he can learn the game from an experienced manager Cuper who knows how to mesh many nationalities in one squad.

And I think the out-of-the-spotlight nature of the Greek League -- though still a decent level -- will relieve some of the pressure he felt after moving to the EPL.

Davis: Fair enough. So we're agreed that Aris is good for Eddie.

Here's why I think it's also a good move for Freddy: He needs two things: 1) Improved skills. 2) A new level of maturity. (And possibly a mute button on that Twitter feed, but we'll get there another time.)

We've established that he can improve his skills at Aris. It's not a stretch to think that the presence of EJ will help him develop into a more mature player as well

Lalas: I think it is. How is Johnson, a guy who needs to mature and learn the game himself, going to help Adu do that?

Davis: Because he's been through this before. He's basically been run out of England.

Lalas: Who was run out of England? Freddy?

Davis: EJ.

Lalas: Not really. He was just deemed surplus goods. Sure, if he were performing better, they wouldn't have shipped him down to Greece, but at the same time, he just didn't fit. And when EJ went on loan last year at Cardiff, he did pretty well.

Davis: And then came back and couldn't find the field.

Lalas: Right. But Freddy hasn't found the field with the mother team or when on loan. Essentially, three teams have now said he doesn't have anything they're interested in.

Davis: But he and EJ should be able to help each other out.

Lalas: Sure, if only because they speak English together. And there's a random Irish teenager on Aris's squad, too.

Davis: They can focus on football.

Lalas: I'm not sure Freddy can focus on the game.

Davis: Well, if he can't focus on it in Greece, he sure as hell won't be able to focus on it in the U.S.

Lalas: I disagree. He's proven before that he can succeed here. In some way, he actually does better when he feels like he's at the center of things. At Benfica, at Monaco, at Belenenses, he was never a focal point for the team.

Davis: But no one in MLS was going to build a team around him.

Lalas: When the spotlight is on him, he performs. It's why he always seems to do well for the youth national teams.

No one will do build a team around him, true. But the (uninformed) public still know him and think he's something. You know as well as I do that non-soccer geeks ask about him all the time.

Davis: Well, a lot of soccer geeks still think he deserves a chance on the National Team.

I see what you're saying about focus, but I think returning to the U.S. would shatter whatever confidence he has left.

Lalas: If his confidence isn't shattered already by his lack of playing time and his continual jettisoning, then the kid is even more oblivious and self-absorbed than we all imagined.

I think at team like Dallas or, even better, Philly, he'd do great. Yes, I said Philly, because no one got Freddy to play better than Peter Nowak. Not that Nowak would choose to go through the circus again.

Davis: How would the Sons of Ben feel?

Lalas: The SOBs might have an issue with it. But imagine if Peter Nowak took him by the scruff of the neck and got him playing the way we all believe he can.

Davis: Well, now we'll never have that chance.

Lalas: Seriously, I think I'm going to start a Freddy-to-Philly campaign.

Davis: You're a couple weeks too late. He's already in a fine spot in Greece. (But it would be fun.)

Lalas: True. Maybe Cuper can play the Nowak role. Personally, I hope so, because I still believe Adu has the natural talent to be very good. Now he needs to stop twittering and just play.

Counterattack runs every Thursday on Goal.com.

SOURCE: GOAL.COM
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: MEP on January 07, 2010, 07:59:26 PM
yuh post ah interview with La Ass? the middle L in his name should be silent something he doesn't know how to do.....
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Sando on January 08, 2010, 05:25:46 AM
yuh post ah interview with La Ass? the middle L in his name should be silent something he doesn't know how to do.....

At least Lalas big up Yorke in the article...

I remember he was the man who man marked Yorke out of the game in Virginia.
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Andre on January 08, 2010, 07:24:49 AM
freddy reach greece to a hero welcome.

wha they woulda do if it was a world cup harden soca warrior or darius vassell?

http://www.youtube.com/v/wI7mX5hL6T8

http://www.youtube.com/v/nXCtsxzXBKg
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Bitter on January 08, 2010, 09:24:47 AM
yuh post ah interview with La Ass? the middle L in his name should be silent something he doesn't know how to do.....

At least Lalas big up Yorke in the article...

I remember he was the man who man marked Yorke out of the game in Virginia.

I was at that game.
The only ppl shutting down T&t was T&T them men look cold and uninterested.
I see a youth from South Africa run rings around Alexi until he chop the man down. He is a s***snake
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: MEP on January 08, 2010, 11:49:25 AM
yuh post ah interview with La Ass? the middle L in his name should be silent something he doesn't know how to do.....

At least Lalas big up Yorke in the article...

I remember he was the man who man marked Yorke out of the game in Virginia.
I remember that game well..Yorke didn't want to play because there was insurance coverage issues with the TTFF so he virtually took himself out of the game....
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Bakes on January 08, 2010, 12:24:05 PM
I was at that game.
The only ppl shutting down T&t was T&T them men look cold and uninterested.
I see a youth from South Africa run rings around Alexi until he chop the man down. He is a s***snake

You ain't never lie... Lalas is one overrated shithong know-nothing.  Only way he ever mark Yorke out of any game was to hack him and grab him into frustration.  Real caveman tactics that were usually rewarded by the equally shithong Central American officials that invariably ended up working our games.

-----------------------

Separately... I happy to see Freddy get that kinda reception.  If he feel he was struggling to learn Portuguese before, lol...
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: fari on January 08, 2010, 12:30:46 PM
waay boy, freddy real small...man looking like a lil boy oui
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Lightning on January 08, 2010, 12:42:48 PM
yuh post ah interview with La Ass? the middle L in his name should be silent something he doesn't know how to do.....

At least Lalas big up Yorke in the article...

I remember he was the man who man marked Yorke out of the game in Virginia.

I was at that game.
The only ppl shutting down T&t was T&T them men look cold and uninterested.
I see a youth from South Africa run rings around Alexi until he chop the man down. He is a s***snake

Some people are blinded by hate. You sure you see Greg Lalas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Lalas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Lalas) in that game
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on January 08, 2010, 12:54:17 PM
Some people are blinded by hate. You sure you see Greg Lalas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Lalas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Lalas) in that game

Man see Lalas an gone off, up to now dem eh even watch de fus name to kno is Alexi dat contributing to the article :rotfl:
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Andre on January 08, 2010, 01:54:20 PM
waay boy, freddy real small...man looking like a lil boy oui

us soccer have him listed as 5' 8" and 140.

dem greeks must be real tall.

http://www.ussoccer.com/Teams/US-Men/Player-Pool/2009-Player-Pool.aspx
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Bakes on January 08, 2010, 01:58:42 PM
Some people are blinded by hate. You sure you see Greg Lalas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Lalas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Lalas) in that game

How are "people" blinded by hate... the comments are directed at Alexi Lalas.  "Blinded by hate" implies an irrational hate... there is nothing irrational about the comments directed at Alexi Lalas... unless you care to argue otherwise.

Admittedly I didn't pay close enough attention to who the speaker was... I took one look at the Lalas name and that it was a Goal.com article and dismissed it without wasting my time reading it.  That's not blind hate that's the odds against reading anything worthwhile from Goal.com or Alexi Lalas working against them.

Man see Lalas an gone off, up to now dem eh even watch de fus name to kno is Alexi dat contributing to the article :rotfl:

Killa youself off yuh meds or what... yuh think is really "Greg" Lalas men talking about?  Greg Lalas never defended Yorke.
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Bitter on January 08, 2010, 03:16:05 PM
yuh post ah interview with La Ass? the middle L in his name should be silent something he doesn't know how to do.....

At least Lalas big up Yorke in the article...

I remember he was the man who man marked Yorke out of the game in Virginia.

I was at that game.
The only ppl shutting down T&t was T&T them men look cold and uninterested.
I see a youth from South Africa run rings around Alexi until he chop the man down. He is a s***snake

Some people are blinded by hate. You sure you see Greg Lalas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Lalas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Lalas) in that game

I was referring to the quoted post, not the article.
Sando say Lalas shut down Yorke in a game in Virginia. The only Lalas he could be referring to is the red-headed goat Alexi. A man who was playing a friendly vs U23s and went in hard with studs showing.
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Bitter on January 08, 2010, 03:20:51 PM
Some people are blinded by hate. You sure you see Greg Lalas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Lalas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Lalas) in that game

How are "people" blinded by hate... the comments are directed at Alexi Lalas.  "Blinded by hate" implies an irrational hate... there is nothing irrational about the comments directed at Alexi Lalas... unless you care to argue otherwise.

Admittedly I didn't pay close enough attention to who the speaker was... I took one look at the Lalas name and that it was a Goal.com article and dismissed it without wasting my time reading it.  That's not blind hate that's the odds against reading anything worthwhile from Goal.com or Alexi Lalas working against them.

Man see Lalas an gone off, up to now dem eh even watch de fus name to kno is Alexi dat contributing to the article :rotfl:

Killa youself off yuh meds or what... yuh think is really "Greg" Lalas men talking about?  Greg Lalas never defended Yorke.

Actually I am blinded by hate. When I see that red head fool I does froth at the mouth.  He, Jack and Charlie Weis does make me get so. ;D
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Lightning on January 08, 2010, 03:33:17 PM
Some people are blinded by hate. You sure you see Greg Lalas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Lalas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Lalas) in that game

How are "people" blinded by hate... the comments are directed at Alexi Lalas.  "Blinded by hate" implies an irrational hate... there is nothing irrational about the comments directed at Alexi Lalas... unless you care to argue otherwise.

Admittedly I didn't pay close enough attention to who the speaker was... I took one look at the Lalas name and that it was a Goal.com article and dismissed it without wasting my time reading it.  That's not blind hate that's the odds against reading anything worthwhile from Goal.com or Alexi Lalas working against them.

Man see Lalas an gone off, up to now dem eh even watch de fus name to kno is Alexi dat contributing to the article :rotfl:

Killa youself off yuh meds or what... yuh think is really "Greg" Lalas men talking about?  Greg Lalas never defended Yorke.

Actually I am blinded by hate. When I see that red head fool I does froth at the mouth.  He, Jack and Charlie Weis does make me get so. ;D
The defense rests....(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:wLVsGq5m1pPVWM%3Ahttp://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42299000/gif/_42299852_six_416x300.gif)
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Bakes on January 08, 2010, 05:49:37 PM
Actually I am blinded by hate. When I see that red head fool I does froth at the mouth.  He, Jack and Charlie Weis does make me get so. ;D

Lol@ Charlie Weiss... yeah I never hate on ND so much as when they fire Ty Willingham and made Weiss head coach.
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Zeppo on January 31, 2010, 10:21:15 AM

The Freddy to Eddie connection!

EJ scores his first goal for Aris on an assist from Adu.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/23ivvra.gif)
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Zeppo on January 31, 2010, 10:23:50 AM
From another angle:

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Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Zeppo on February 14, 2010, 11:10:35 AM
Freddy scored the winner for Aris today in their 2-1 victory over Ergotelis.


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Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: elan on February 14, 2010, 12:47:32 PM
Yuh think MLS fans woulda welcome Adu like that if he had returned to the US?  I still maintain that the US don't know how to use Freddy effectively in their set up.
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Arimaman on February 14, 2010, 08:32:59 PM
Yuh think MLS fans woulda welcome Adu like that if he had returned to the US?  I still maintain that the US don't know how to use Freddy effectively in their set up.
I agree to a point, however, yuh could say that for every team. Why only the US don't know how to use him effectively?
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Pointman on February 16, 2010, 05:55:35 PM
Alexi Lalas ::)  loooorrdd have mercy...the BIGGEST, most overrated shytesnake to ever lace up and take the pitch...ask Carlos Wanchope.
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Zeppo on February 20, 2010, 08:48:42 PM
(http://super3.gr/gallery/photos/%D0%CF%C4%CF%D3%D6%C1%C9%D1%CF/%C5%CD%D4%CF%D3%20%C5%C4%D1%C1%D3/ARIS-XANTHI/ARIS-XANTHI_09-10_KYPELLO_3-0//ARIS-XANTHI_09-10_KYPELLO_3-0_23.jpg)

Adu scores second goal in Greece

Freddy Adu scored his second goal in two games, sending his new club Aris Thessaloniki to the semifinals of the Greek Cup.

Adu scored off a pass from Toni Calvo in the 23rd minute as Aris beat Xanthi 3-0 win Wednesday. Javier Campora and Sergio Koke got the other goals. 

(continue) (http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/usa/story/021710-adu-scores-second-goal-in-greece)
Title: Inside Report: What went wrong with Freddy Adu?
Post by: Trini _2026 on April 27, 2010, 08:13:09 AM
Inside Report: What went wrong with Freddy Adu?

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/swf/4.1/global/cvp/si_embed.swf?context=embed&videoId=042610.ir_wahl_adu
Title: Re: Inside Report: What went wrong with Freddy Adu?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 27, 2010, 08:25:31 AM
A hard time with tactics and defence ... hmm.
Title: Adu on trial with German club
Post by: Trini _2026 on January 07, 2011, 02:56:50 PM
Adu on trial with German club
www.breitbart.com

(AFP) - Former youth prodigy Freddy Adu is undergoing trials with German second division side Ingolstadt in a bid to revive his flagging career.

The 21-year-old, Ghana-born midfielder looked headed for stardom when he took US citizenship in 2003 and made his senior debut a year later.

But after spells with DC United and Real Salt Lake he moved to Benfica in Portugal in July, 2007 and he has struggled to make his mark there.

Subsequently he has been on loan to Monaco in France, Belenenses in Portugal and Aris Salonika in Greece, with little success.

Ingolstadt have called him up and will take a decision on whether to keep him on loan until the end of the season during the winter break in Germany.

"We know all about his past and that he has failed to live up to all the expectations that were placed on him when he was 15 and 16 years old," said Ingolstadt manager Benno Mohlmann.

"On the other hand what we need are established players who can help us out at this stage of the season, not players who have a lot of potential."

Ingolstadt, based near Munich, are currently one place from bottom in the second division and facing a battle against relegation.
Title: Re: Adu on trial with German club
Post by: kicker on January 07, 2011, 02:58:47 PM
What a flop this kid has been...

Upside is that he's still only 21. 
Title: Re: Adu on trial with German club
Post by: Observer on January 07, 2011, 03:43:25 PM
What a flop this kid has been...

Upside is that he's still only 21. 

That is what happens when you read and believe the press, especially uneducated
football press. Then he enters the real football world and realizes that after you make it, that is when the work actually starts. I feel for him, so I hope he can find a place that will nurture his talents.
Title: Re: Adu on trial with German club
Post by: Bakes on January 07, 2011, 04:49:09 PM
What a flop this kid has been...

Upside is that he's still only 21. 

That is what happens when you read and believe the press, especially uneducated
football press. Then he enters the real football world and realizes that after you make it, that is when the work actually starts. I feel for him, so I hope he can find a place that will nurture his talents.

I still say Novak retarded his career at United.  But the flip side fo that is that maybe Novak was seeing in practice and behind the scenes exactly what playing out now  :-\
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: giggsy11 on January 10, 2011, 07:08:09 PM
Adu real age just catch up to him like Kanu.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Ngozi on January 10, 2011, 11:21:59 PM
Personally I think this kid has talent ... it has to be something else .. maybe  its his attitude how can he fall so far down and so quickly ... he's much better than that something else is going on.
Title: Re: Should Johnson & Adu have come back to MLS instead of joining Aris ?
Post by: Die_Hard on January 10, 2011, 11:41:42 PM
Alexi Lalas ::)  loooorrdd have mercy...the BIGGEST, most overrated shytesnake to ever lace up and take the pitch...ask Carlos Wanchope.

Ask Dwight Yorke.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Big Magician on January 11, 2011, 01:24:28 AM
 TULLA TULLA TUILLA
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: dwn on January 11, 2011, 01:53:51 AM
what happened with adu is not uncommon. the best performers at age 14/15 aren't always the players to reach the highest level later in their career.

also didn't he start his pro career at dc united? you really expect him to reach the level of youth players who were playing at better clubs, training among better players and being developed by better coaches (probably)?

or maybe his drive/work ethic wasn't high enough to make him one of the worlds best. or maybe it just means that ripping at youth level doesn't translate into being able to rip senior professionals. the possibilities are plenty!

but the fact that he isn't one of the best players in the world now isn't surprising at all when you think about it.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: kicker on January 11, 2011, 08:43:04 AM
what happened with adu is not uncommon. the best performers at age 14/15 aren't always the players to reach the highest level later in their career.

also didn't he start his pro career at dc united? you really expect him to reach the level of youth players who were playing at better clubs, training among better players and being developed by better coaches (probably)?

or maybe his drive/work ethic wasn't high enough to make him one of the worlds best. or maybe it just means that ripping at youth level doesn't translate into being able to rip senior professionals. the possibilities are plenty!

but the fact that he isn't one of the best players in the world now isn't surprising at all when you think about it.


I don't think that people (on this thread) were necessarily expecting him to be one of the best players in the world, but based on his hype, most figured he'd be having a comfortable professional career at a recognized team...as opposed to loaned out consistently and bouncing around in obscurity from team to team...


That said, he's still only 21...there is still a world of opportunity ahead of him if he can find a good run of form. 
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Blue on January 11, 2011, 03:34:55 PM
what happened with adu is not uncommon. the best performers at age 14/15 aren't always the players to reach the highest level later in their career.

also didn't he start his pro career at dc united? you really expect him to reach the level of youth players who were playing at better clubs, training among better players and being developed by better coaches (probably)?

or maybe his drive/work ethic wasn't high enough to make him one of the worlds best. or maybe it just means that ripping at youth level doesn't translate into being able to rip senior professionals. the possibilities are plenty!

but the fact that he isn't one of the best players in the world now isn't surprising at all when you think about it.


I don't think that people (on this thread) were necessarily expecting him to be one of the best players in the world, but based on his hype, most figured he'd be having a comfortable professional career at a recognized team...as opposed to loaned out consistently and bouncing around in obscurity from team to team...


That said, he's still only 21...there is still a world of opportunity ahead of him if he can find a good run of form. 

He's been playing pro football how long now? 6, 7 years? It doesn't matter what age you start at, the number of seasons your body can take is limited. I bet he will retire by 30, and I think he's already past the "he's got potential" stage of his career.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: kicker on January 11, 2011, 03:54:42 PM
He's been playing pro football how long now? 6, 7 years? It doesn't matter what age you start at, the number of seasons your body can take is limited. I bet he will retire by 30, and I think he's already past the "he's got potential" stage of his career.

He might burn out mentally because I get the impression that he faced alot of scrutiny and pressure before he was mature enough for it, but physicaly I don't think that Fredy hasn't been playing that much more, if any more high level football than the rest of his peers- he's just been in the spot light from earlier.  He got some early exposure to the MLS at age 14.... But his appearances at the international senior level, and at the first team level in Europe have been few and far between since he left the U.S.....Messi is only 2 years older than Adu and has probably played more than 2 years worth of serious football more than Adu has if you consider the level, and the different club and int'l competitions...Is Messi destined for retirement before age 30?

His developmental learning curve may have hit a plateau currently, I dunno....but I still think at age 21 as a footballer, you have to assume that his best years are ahead of him..
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: dwn on January 11, 2011, 10:12:06 PM
what happened with adu is not uncommon. the best performers at age 14/15 aren't always the players to reach the highest level later in their career.

also didn't he start his pro career at dc united? you really expect him to reach the level of youth players who were playing at better clubs, training among better players and being developed by better coaches (probably)?

or maybe his drive/work ethic wasn't high enough to make him one of the worlds best. or maybe it just means that ripping at youth level doesn't translate into being able to rip senior professionals. the possibilities are plenty!

but the fact that he isn't one of the best players in the world now isn't surprising at all when you think about it.


I don't think that people (on this thread) were necessarily expecting him to be one of the best players in the world, but based on his hype, most figured he'd be having a comfortable professional career at a recognized team...as opposed to loaned out consistently and bouncing around in obscurity from team to team...


That said, he's still only 21...there is still a world of opportunity ahead of him if he can find a good run of form. 

i just get the feeling that because at age 14 he was so much better than other 14 year olds, that we tend to expect him to be a top player at an older age. and i really don't think it works like that - that assumes that all other things are equal.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: kicker on January 12, 2011, 08:34:01 AM
i just get the feeling that because at age 14 he was so much better than other 14 year olds, that we tend to expect him to be a top player at an older age. and i really don't think it works like that - that assumes that all other things are equal.

Yeah plus the degree to which people were led to believe that he was so much better than other 14 year olds was inflated by hype...
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Jah Gol on January 12, 2011, 08:45:01 AM
i just get the feeling that because at age 14 he was so much better than other 14 year olds, that we tend to expect him to be a top player at an older age. and i really don't think it works like that - that assumes that all other things are equal.

Yeah plus the degree to which people were led to believe that he was so much better than other 14 year olds was inflated by hype...
I remember watching a South American youth qualification tournament around the time Adu was 14/15. Brazil fielded about 4 15 year olds on an U17 team. I don't recall their names but they all had better technique and tactical awareness than Adu. They were not as fast as him though.
Title: Freddy Adu gets surprise call-up to U.S. mens soccer team
Post by: Bitter on May 26, 2011, 09:52:54 AM
Freddy Adu gets surprise call-up to U.S. mens soccer team

By Steven Goff, Published: May 23
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/united/freddy-adu-gets-surprise-call-up-to-us-mens-soccer-team/2011/05/23/AFhlX59G_story.html

Freddy Adu had faded from the American soccer scene, a one-time prodigy who was failing to fulfill his vast promise while bouncing between clubs across Europe. But over the past four months, while playing for a second-division team in a Turkish provincial capital nestled along a bay on the Black Sea, Adu re-emerged.

On Monday, the former D.C. United midfielder-forward was rewarded for his progress and remembered for his potential by being named to the U.S. national team. The Americans will play World Cup champion Spain in a June 4 friendly in Foxborough, Mass., before entering the CONCACAF Gold Cup, the 12-nation championship for North and Central America and the Caribbean.

It seems like its a good opportunity to get him back in with us, where we have a good month together, challenge him and hope that he has continued to grow and mature, and can play a bigger role with the national team, U.S. Coach Bob Bradley said of Adu, an immigrant from Ghana who grew up in Montgomery County, and amid global fanfare, signed with MLS at age 14.

Its an opportunity that has been earned, Bradley added.

Adu, who turns 22 next week, was among six players with Washington ties to make the 23-man roster. He joined defenders Oguchi Onyewu (Olney) and Clarence Goodson (Springfield), former University of Maryland midfielders Maurice Edu and Robbie Rogers, and ex-United goalkeeper Nick Rimando.

Adus inclusion was the biggest surprise. He hadnt received a U.S. call-up since the 2009 Gold Cup, and despite making progress this year with Turkish club Rizespor, most observers pegged him in the second tier of U.S. candidates.

However, Bradley and his coaching staff have been watching Adus matches online they werent able to see him in person and came away impressed enough to consider him for selection.

Its not that weve seen anything specific playing for his new club that shows how he has improved; its a package of things, Bradley said. We certainly know that at different times he has shown some abilities that are special. He hasnt always been able to make them count in different situations at different levels.

In the past, Adus attitude and work ethic were called into question, but the move to Rizespor seemed to ground him. His play, albeit in a modest league, has also attracted attention: four goals and multiple assists in 11 appearances.

Rizespor, which is in the city of Rize in northeast Turkey, finished third in the regular season, gaining a place in a playoff for promotion to the prestigious first division. To advance to the final stage, the club will need to win by at least four goals Thursday after losing at Orduspor, 4-0, in Mondays first leg.

For Freddy, he made a very conscious decision to go somewhere he would play and have everything be about Freddy the soccer player and nothing else, said Richard Motzkin, Adus agent.

Added Bradley: We respect the fact that he made this move to go to a smaller club because he had to show people he had to do whatever to keep going. Were looking forward to seeing how hes handling things, a maturity, a way that tells us that his experiences along the way have been measured and now he understands all of it needs to come together to move along.

The U.S. roster also includes World Cup veterans Tim Howard, Carlos Bocanegra, Clint Dempsey, Michael Bradley, Landon Donovan and Jozy Altidore. Training camp opens this week in Cary, N.C.

As expected, United forward Charlie Davies (six goals) was not selected. Seeking to return to the national team for the first time since a 2009 car accident, Davies has yet to regain his international form and is also sidelined with a strained hamstring.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: injunchile on May 26, 2011, 10:16:35 AM
USA playing Spain- Who we playing- Well at least Guyana will give us a sweat.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Bitter on November 07, 2013, 05:09:46 PM
Bahia won't renew Freddy Adu
November 7, 2013
By Alex Labidou | ESPNFC.com

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1609033/bahia-renew-freddy-adu-contract-december?cc=5901

Brazilian league club Bahia said it won't renew the contract of a struggling Freddy Adu in December and Adu's agent, Richard Motzkin, confirmed Thursday Adu's contract is up in December.

"He hasnt played because we understand that there are other players who are superior to him and he has had so many opportunities," Bahia sporting director Anderson Barros told Lance!Net. "When his contract is ended he can go on with his life. He will be free to procure another club."

The 24-year-old midfielder has seen little playing time with Bahia since moving to Brazil in an April transfer with the Philadelphia Union for Jose Kleberson.

Bahia is Adu's ninth club since he burst onto the soccer scene as a 15-year-old prodigy. He has seen limited playing time with Bahia.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Bakes on November 07, 2013, 08:18:35 PM
Whither Freddy?
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: vb on November 10, 2013, 03:40:37 PM
It really that hard for him to get a good MLS contract?
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Tiresais on November 10, 2013, 03:45:31 PM
MLS doesn't pay well sadly. Great shame what happened to Adu's career
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Toppa on November 10, 2013, 07:54:03 PM
MLS doesn't pay well sadly. Great shame what happened to Adu's career

Wasn't he all American marketing hype? Did he ever have genuine talent? Just asking...
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Tallman on November 10, 2013, 09:12:21 PM
MLS doesn't pay well sadly. Great shame what happened to Adu's career

Wasn't he all American marketing hype? Did he ever have genuine talent? Just asking...

Yes he had/has talent. But his advisors and de MLS mess him up. Dat whole marketing ting was also a negative ting for him. Instead of letting de youth develop at one of de academy's/clubs in Europe dat wanted him at de time, dem was studying tuh get some hype by playing ah 14-year old in de MLS.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Toppa on November 10, 2013, 11:19:22 PM
MLS doesn't pay well sadly. Great shame what happened to Adu's career

Wasn't he all American marketing hype? Did he ever have genuine talent? Just asking...

Yes he had/has talent. But his advisors and de MLS mess him up. Dat whole marketing ting was also a negative ting for him. Instead of letting de youth develop at one of de academy's/clubs in Europe dat wanted him at de time, dem was studying tuh get some hype by playing ah 14-year old in de MLS.

True, true.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Coop's on November 11, 2013, 06:41:56 AM
MLS doesn't pay well sadly. Great shame what happened to Adu's career

Wasn't he all American marketing hype? Did he ever have genuine talent? Just asking...

Yes he had/has talent. But his advisors and de MLS mess him up. Dat whole marketing ting was also a negative ting for him. Instead of letting de youth develop at one of de academy's/clubs in Europe dat wanted him at de time, dem was studying tuh get some hype by playing ah 14-year old in de MLS.
     Tallman is correct,his agent and who ever was advising the family i guess made some money off ah the deals they made with him,the only thing is i hope he benefited form the education part of it so he has something now to fall back on. 
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: asylumseeker on November 11, 2013, 08:06:52 AM
... His mother was also influential (or influenced) in the decision to stay US-based. I gather there was some measure of gratitude to the US for the opportunities the family had access to, merely by being in the States. However, in a footballing context, we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that Adu brought some great moments to the table, and that he enjoyed several highs.

Aside from that, focus is often placed on Freddy not having become a staple at a top tier, world class club, but what mention is there regarding his work ethic?
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Fantastic on November 11, 2013, 09:48:00 AM
Freddy is a very good player technically, but his physical attributes didn't support continued dominance past youth soccer. Very few let's say less than powerful, tiny, not fast players have succeeded in high level pro ball. Suspicion of his true age at younger levels can also be a factor. I think his handlers have done a good job of masking his deficiencies while making as much money as possible.
Title: Freddy Adu still holding out hope that he can make US World Cup camp
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 16, 2014, 06:26:59 AM
Freddy Adu still holding out hope that he can make US World Cup camp: "You never know"
FEBRUARY 15, 2014
Simon Borg
MLSsoccer.com


http://www.youtube.com/v/XXab7AFIS5I

Freddy Adu hasn't appeared for the US national team since the 2011 CONCACAF Gold Cup final, but he's hoping deep down to join a new club that will give him the chance to make one last run at the 2014 World Cup roster.

"You never know," the free agent Adu told the official site of Blackpool FC, the English second-tier side where he is currently training. "You play well for the next couple of months and you're in camp for the World Cup. You just never know.

"You have to make the right decision and you have to do what you have to do to get on the field and play and when you get on the field, you have to make a difference on the field and stay there."

And that's what comes first for Adu, who has been without a club since terminating his contract with Brazilian side Bahia. He landed the Blackpool training opportunity through his agent's personal contact at the club.

"I've loved it," Adu said of his time with Blackpool, currently in 16th place in the 24-team English Championship. "They've all welcomed me. I'm happy here. I'm learning a lot. The training here is very intense. It's different to what I'm used to and I absolutely love it because that's what I need as a player.

"I love football in England," he continued. "It would be a dream come true to play here some day. I don't know when that will be. But it would definitely be a dream come true and I'll do whatever it takes to make that happen."

Will it be at Blackpool?

"Right now, I'm really not in a rush to really get anything done right this second," he said. "I need to make the right decision for my career, as well. I haven't always made the right decisions as far as choices of teams I've gone to in the past. I have to make the right decision this time."

This coming March will mark the 10-year anniversary as a professional player for the 24-year-old Adu, who says he's "still young enough to correct some of the mistakes I've made." Adu turned pro in 2004 at the age of 14 and was picked No. 1 in the SuperDraft by D.C. United. Since then, he's played for nine clubs in six different countries.

"What most people don't know is that I decided to go pro because my family was real poor," Adu said. "At that point my mom was a single mother working 2-3 jobs and what am I going to do? Say 'no' to millions of dollars at that age while my family is struggling? No. ... When Nike gives you a multimillion-dollar contract, what are you going to say? I was like, 'yeah, I'm in.'

"As a 14-, 15-, 16-year-old, you're young, you're immature and you kind of get caught up in that a little bit ... There was a point where honestly I did get caught up in it. And maybe I wasn't training as hard as I should have. And it hurt me. It hurt my development as well. At that point you just have to be real with yourself."

Being real these days for Adu means coming to grips with a new reality compared to those early days. Adu has gone from being the biggest name in American soccer to a journeyman player, hoping to latch onto a new opportunity to prove himself.

"That's all I want to do," Adu says. "Be a professional football player. Not a star off the field."
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: elan on February 16, 2014, 09:57:20 PM
Freddy is a perfect example of how USSoccer for all the strides they have made and ll the success they have had, they still cannot develop a WC player even when that player is filled with Potential.
Title: What Happened to America's Pele? The Rise and Fall of Freddy Adu
Post by: Tallman on May 23, 2014, 11:37:55 AM
What Happened to America's Pele? The Rise and Fall of Freddy Adu
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2070622-what-happened-to-americas-pele-the-rise-and-fall-of-freddy-adu
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: maxg on May 23, 2014, 11:51:07 AM
I saw him play a couple games in a Youth WC in this city. I swear he was the most dangerous & outstanding player on the field for US. I think he had to have been misused, mismanaged or overlooked for some other reason than his ability. He wouldn't be the 1st I know got that.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu
Post by: Sando on May 29, 2014, 04:37:00 PM
From being called the next Pele to now being clueless and still only 24.

What happened?

Did his real age catch up with him?

Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: elan on May 29, 2014, 09:01:37 PM
From being called the next Pele to now being clueless and still only 24.

What happened?

Did his real age catch up with him?



US Soccer happened to him. MLS. Have you ever seen DC United develop a world class player?
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: Tiresais on May 30, 2014, 09:46:50 AM
From being called the next Pele to now being clueless and still only 24.

What happened?

Did his real age catch up with him?



US Soccer happened to him. MLS. Have you ever seen DC United develop a world class player?

If anything it all went wrong when he left :p That's teh thing with people in general - talent at a young age doesn't always translate to talent when you get older, the competition change, the conditions change, the motivations change, and of course the body changes
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 30, 2014, 03:02:12 PM
and of course the body changes
The problem might be that his didn't.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: frico on May 31, 2014, 10:51:01 AM
His age may have caught up with him,he so easily could have been 20 when they said 14.It is a fact of life,in Africa,and the sub-continent where,parents give their children's age much younger than they are.
My little brother played football for his Primary school,all 11 year old,there was this Afganistan and South Africa boy...well yuh cudda knock me dong wid a feather when I saw them playing on the team,they looked like 15.If there was any doubt about their age,then seeing them play would leave you in no doubt.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: elan on May 31, 2014, 09:07:27 PM
His age may have caught up with him,he so easily could have been 20 when they said 14.It is a fact of life,in Africa,and the sub-continent where,parents give their children's age much younger than they are.
My little brother played football for his Primary school,all 11 year old,there was this Afganistan and South Africa boy...well yuh cudda knock me dong wid a feather when I saw them playing on the team,they looked like 15.If there was any doubt about their age,then seeing them play would leave you in no doubt.

It's funny how this stereotype is attached to Africans when this is seen in many Spanish speaking countries also.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: frico on June 02, 2014, 10:17:05 AM
elanI wasn't being stereotypical about Africa,I also pointed out the Sub-Continent,which happens to be India,Pakistan,Bangladesh and the rest.I don't know much about South America,but I sure they are up to the same trick.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: Flex on December 22, 2014, 06:35:08 AM
Paid Their Dues: Freddy Adu cut by FK Jagodina
By RohnJossi


After signing with them in the summer, Freddy Adu has been cut by FK Jagodina, Aca Stojanović reports. Adu failed to make a single appearance for the Serbian SuperLeague side.

If you follow Freddy Adu on Instagram (you should), you know that he has been back in The States for the past few days. Now you know why.

Adu has only played 59 competitive minutes since the end of the 2012 Major League Soccer season, all of those coming with EC Bahia of Brazil. For the second time this year, he will be looking for a new club. How long this search will last, though, is entirely up to him.

Adu, once deemed the future of American soccer, is now a mediocre journeyman in the minds of all but his. In February, the Atlanta Silverbacks publicly courted the former DCU and Union player. He did not reciprocate, opting instead to continue training with Blackpool. Signing with Jagodina was a desperate attempt to prove that he is still a player worthy of the top flight, no matter where that may be.

Adu's ego has always been a problem, but never like this. By moving to Serbia, he seemed to indicate that the NASL is below him. Now, it may be his only chance to show that he can still ball. If Freddy Adu can accept a move to a lower side where he will actually get minutes, he may put himself on the long road back to American soccer relevancy.

Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: Flex on March 06, 2015, 01:46:47 PM
Seriously, What the Heck Happened With Freddy Adu?
By NOAH DAVIS


Pretend for a second that by the time you turned 25 years old, you had accomplished the following:

Played for your country at every youth level and were captain of one of the most successful squads in recent memory.

Appeared nearly 20 times for your countrys senior national team.

Made millions of dollars more money than the vast majority of your countrymen who play your chosen sport.

Had your relationship with a pop star covered by Ryan Seacrest.

Without a doubt, the general public would consider you, my friend, a success.

Unless, of course, your name happens to be Freddy Adu. Then, youd be an immense and overwhelming failure, and wed be debating whether your career had sunk so low that you were moving from the business of footballing to the business of nightclub ownership. Adu is not making any such career pivot, but as the league he famously began his career with as a 14-year-old is set to begin its 20th season tomorrow, hes currently teamless, adrift in the wide world of international club soccer after an unsuccessful six-month stint with FK Jagodina in the Serbian SuperLiga.

The Turkeys were Adus 10th team since being drafted no. 1 by D.C. United in the 2004 MLS SuperDraft, and his eighth squad since 2009, a six-year span over which hes played fewer than 70 games. Thats not good, but its hardly the end of the world as some American soccer fans make it out to be. Its a low point for sure, but there have been some impressive highs and, perhaps, even more to come.

After scoring four goals as a 14-year-old at the 2003 FIFA U-17 World Championship, Adu by then already anointed the Next Pel tallied 11 goals and 17 assists in MLS between 2004 and 2006. He was 16; that is nuts. Then, at the 2007 FIFA U-20 World Cup, Adu captained a U.S. group that included Michael Bradley and Jozy Altidore. They beat a Brazil team with Marcelo and Willian in the group stage and a Uruguay side led by Luis Surez and Edinson Cavani in the round of 16 before falling to Austria in extra time in the quarterfinals. Adu scored a hat trick against Poland in the group stages and frequently did things like this:

He was probably better than [Bradley and Altidore], said then-U-20 coach Thomas Rongen, who also had Adu on earlier U-20 teams along with Clint Dempsey, Eddie Johnson, and teenage star Bobby Convey. He was coachable. He was a good kid. He had a great sense of humor. He was driven at that time to succeed in the right ways.

Following that tournament, Adu, who declined an interview request through his agent, signed with Portugals Benfica on a $2 million transfer and began his still-unfinished journey to find a stable home. If you believe the standard Adu narrative, this was the beginning of The Great Unraveling.

I dont think he had an understanding to know what it was like in the locker room at the next level with the older guys and to live up to earning that kind of money, Rongen said. Its a dog-eat-dog world out there, and players arent necessarily very nice when a guy who hasnt kicked a ball walks in and is earning more than the other guy in the locker room.

Adu ended up playing just 11 games for the Lisbon power while going on four loan stints between 2008 and 2011. He earned some caps for the U.S. senior team during that period including nine in 2008 but struggled for consistent time at any stop.

Each new team followed a predictable pattern: excitement from the American fan base, the slow realization that playing time wasnt going to magically appear, a handful of articles that he failed again, silence, then the end of the loan and the search for a new club. Adu quickly tumbled down the UEFA league coefficient chart: AS Monaco (Frances Ligue 1), Belenenses (Portugals Primeira Liga), Aris (Greeces second division), then finally Caykur Rizespor (Turkeys second division).

He wasnt the same player, either: That trademark (and marketable) megawatt smile was gone. I think somewhere between [U-17] residency and when he and I parted ways [in Philly], his main priority in life wasnt solely How can I be the best footballer I can be? said John Hackworth, who coached Adu while he was an assistant at the U-17 level, an assistant with the senior team, and again when Adu returned to the Philadelphia Union between 2011 and 2013. Adu visited Hackworths house enough during his U-17 years that the coach says his kids fell in love with the budding superstar.

Hackworth remembers a teenager who could dazzle, the creativity and imagination married to his first touch something rare. The coach saw it at the U-17 level, with the Union, and on the senior team, where Adu would turn defenders inside out and then deliver the perfect ball. To me, the sweeping, left-footed pass Adu hit in the 76th minute of a 0-0 tie against Panama in the 2011 Gold Cup semifinals epitomizes what he and not many others whove worn the U.S. shirt could do:

If the U-20 World Cup in 2007 was the peak of Adus career, the 2011 Gold Cup is a close second. He didnt figure in the first four matches but played an integral role in winning the semifinal, then tore up Mexico in the final setting up the second goal and nearly scoring on a 25-yard free kick before the entire U.S. team collapsed under El Tris withering pressure. That game marked the end of Bob Bradleys tenure and also the last time Adu wore the red, white, and blue.

It was clear he still had the physical talent, but, according to Rongen, the mental side didnt match: The one area that separates him and a Michael Bradley is that Michael had a mental edge that is still stronger than Freddys.

But he probably never had a chance. As Adu told the BBC a few years ago:

My family was really poor. My mum was working two or three jobs to take care of my brother and me. So if Nike come to you and say they want to give you a million-dollar contract and the MLS wants to make you the highest-paid player at 14, you cant say no. You just cant. I said yes to everything that was asked of me and ended up doing a lot of appearances, a lot of promotion, a lot of interviews, and it took away from the football on the field. People saw me more as a marketing tool.

A marketing tool who was also supposed to save soccer in the U.S., who had breathless features written about him at 14, who was the savior when he was too young to drive (even though he didnt want to be), whose two-week training stint at Manchester United was covered even though he had no chance to sign, who was getting kissed by Pel at every turn. Considering all of that, what did we expect to happen?

Adu played a part in his own downfall, as his hunger for celebrity outweighed his desire on the field, but he was pushed down that path. The American fan base was desperate for a soccer star causing Adu to be anointed too young and desperate for someone to blame once things went wrong. He served that dual role perfectly. Google Freddy Adu lazy and youll find diatribes based, at best, on anecdotal observation and little actual fact. More than a decade later, were still ravenous for updates about Americas failed hero, even when theres nothing to report:

Steven Goff @SoccerInsider - Freddy Adu update: There is none. No one aware of any imminent trial or signing.

Fortunately, if you get started earlier than everyone else, you remain in your potential prime for a long time. At 25, Adu, who is supposedly now in talks with two Swedish teams, has a chance to be an impactful player for someone for a sustained period of time. Hes still young enough that he could be a good footballer and still have a long and healthy career, Hackworth said.

Rongen, who burned out on high-level soccer only to refind his love while coaching American Samoa, sees a parallel with where Adu is in his career: He needs to play, enjoy the game, and smile, which he used to do when he played. Ill take him tomorrow at the [Tampa Bay] Rowdies [where Rongen is the head coach]. Maybe hell look at it like a step down, but if he does well with the right coach, he can flourish and still make a second career on a high level.'

Adu will always be a strange contradiction, a reservoir of potential only partially tapped, a player who has done more than most but never enough. He might have burned out, but hes refused to fade away as hard as weve refused to let him. Heres an article about Adu headlined One Last Chance at Glory?

It was published on January 4, 2010, six months before he turned 21.


Noah Davis (@noahedavis) is Grantlands United States mens national team columnist and deputy editor at American Soccer Now.

Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 06, 2015, 02:33:08 PM
Thank you, Noah Davis.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: Tallman on March 28, 2015, 02:34:47 PM
Once dubbed the next Pele, Freddy Adu today joined Finnish side Kuopion Palloseura
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FREDDY ADUS NOMADIC career has now taken him to Finland, after the player once dubbed the next Pele signed for Veikkausliiga side Kuopion Palloseura.

Adu, 25, was touted as a wonderkid of the world game when he burst onto the scene at 14, becoming the youngest athlete ever to sign a professional contract in the US.

On Saturday, he signed for his 11th club in as many years since turning professional when Finnish top-flight side Kuopion Palloseura announced the American had agreed to join them on a one-year deal.

Since signing professional terms with DC United in 2004, Adu went on to play for Real Salt Lake, Benfica, Monaco, Belenenses, Greek side Aris and Turkish Super Lig club Rizespor.

In 2011, he returned to the US to join Philadelphia Union, before stints at Bahia in Brazil and Serbian side Jagodina, who released him in December.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on April 22, 2015, 03:29:12 AM
... at least he's in the Finnish top flight.
Title: Adu set to sign with NASL's Tampa Bay Rowdies
Post by: Tallman on July 12, 2015, 12:53:49 PM
Adu set to sign with NASL's Tampa Bay Rowdies
By Ives Galarcep (goal.com)


Sources have confirmed to Goal USA that Freddy Adu is set to sign with NASL side Tampa Bay Rowdies.

Freddy Adu has returned to the United States after another failed stint in Europe, and this time it appears he is ready to stay home for a while as he looks to rebuild his career.

Sources have confirmed to Goal USA that Adu is set to sign with the Tampa Bay Rowdies of the North American Soccer League after weighing offers from multiple NASL teams. He is expected to complete his signing this weekend.

Adu left Finnish side KuPS after three months and stated on social media that he was pursuing new opportunities. His quest for playing time has brought him back to the U.S., though not MLS, where he has had two previous stints.

Instead, Adu will be moving to the NASL, a growing league that has seen increased investment improve its overall quality, and make it a more attractive option for international players.

Sources close to Adu confirmed he will join the Rowdies and be reunited with coach Thomas Rongen, who coached him with the U.S. Under-20 national team at the 2007 Under-20 World Cup, where Adu starred for the Americans.

Adu returns to the U.S. for the first time since 2012, when he played for the Philadelphia Union. He spent one and a half seasons with the Union, but after a battle with the club over his contract (which the Union wanted him to restructure) the team eventually sold him to Brazilian club Bahia.

After a year with Bahia that saw him receive little playing time amid a series of coaching changes, Adu endured disappointing stints with Serbian side FK Jagodina and KuPS, where he enjoyed a strong four-match start before being sidelined by injuries.

He joins a Rowdies side that has shown considerable improvement under Rongen. The Rowdies finished just one point behind the New York Cosmos in the NASL spring season and are now considered one of the favorites to capture the crown of the fall season, which started last week.

Adu's career has been a roller coaster ride since he first burst onto the scene a decade ago as a child sensation who turned pro at age 14. After starting his career with D.C. United, and Real Salt Lake, Adu eventually made a multimillion-dollar move to Portuguese power Benfica. His initial stint in Europe saw him go on a series of loans that led to time in leagues in France, Portugal, Greece and Turkey before a return to the U.S. national team in 2011 at the CONCACAF Gold Cup helped him land a seven-figure contract with MLS as a signing by the Philadelphia Union.

If Adu finalizes his contract with the Rowdies this weekend, he could make his NASL debut July 18 at home against FC Edmonton.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on July 12, 2015, 03:21:59 PM
Rongen and Adu ... if that can't work, not much else will.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: grimm01 on July 12, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
Can't believe that Freddy is already 26. Hope this works out for him; he's running out of leagues.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: Flex on February 08, 2017, 07:01:07 PM
Freddy Adu's Portland Timbers trial ends without a contract offer
ESPN


Freddy Adu's trial with the Portland Timbers has ended without an offer of an MLS contract.

Adu, 27, was invited to preseason camp with the Timbers by his former U.S. under-23 coach Caleb Porter, but the former teenage phenom will not be joining the team.

"Freddy is no longer with us," Porter told The Oregonian. "He had two weeks and we were up front and honest with him about where we're at. More than anything, you look at the depth, there's just not going to be a spot."
Adu was the youngest American to sign a professional contract in a major team sport when D.C. United signed him at 14 in 2003, a record he still holds.

He's also still the youngest player to appear for the U.S., having debuted in 2006 at 16 years, 234 days. The last of his 17 U.S. caps came in the 2011 Gold Cup final.

Adu has played for 13 different clubs in less than 14 years as a pro, traveling from world famous clubs like Benfica and Monaco to obscure sides in places like Serbia and Finland.

He hasn't played in MLS since 2013, the last of two and a half seasons with the Philadelphia Union and was most recently a reserve with the second-tier Tampa Bay Rowdies, making just 12 league appearances the past two seasons.

Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: soccerman on February 08, 2017, 11:00:20 PM
Sad to see how things turned out for Freddy after so much promise....best he go play with Central, he'll at least get to play in the Champions league.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on February 09, 2017, 07:50:05 AM
Sad to see how things turned out for Freddy after so much promise....best he go play with Central, he'll at least get to play in the Champions league.
The way it looking, he eh sure to make Central either.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: lefty on February 09, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Sad to see how things turned out for Freddy after so much promise....best he go play with Central, he'll at least get to play in the Champions league.
The way it looking, he eh sure to make Central either.
What cause his issues anyway,  strings of injuries or just an overhyped quantity dat get found out

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Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: Deeks on February 09, 2017, 04:50:17 PM
What cause his issues anyway,  strings of injuries or just an overhyped quantity dat get found out

All of the above.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: lefty on February 09, 2017, 04:54:23 PM
What cause his issues anyway,  strings of injuries or just an overhyped quantity dat get found out

All of the above.
thanks.....could remember d media buzz lil bit, but never pay it no mind
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: Deeks on February 09, 2017, 05:21:53 PM
What cause his issues anyway,  strings of injuries or just an overhyped quantity dat get found out

All of the above.
thanks.....could remember d media buzz lil bit, but never pay it no mind

I living in DC. Yes, he was the buzz around the metro area at the time. He did have all the potential, etc at the time. The coach at DC U wanted to bring him up gradually. But there were those who were pressuring him to let him loose. They felt, in their wisdom, he was the bright new face of the MLS. There was the potential moneys involved. There were Euro teams trying to woo him. Plus the Ghanian national were also trying to woo him. All the whirlwind was spinning him, his fans, agent and mother in one way, his "opponents" and 'naysayers" the other way. In the long run it did not work out. My thought was, for his size,  he still needed to work on his physique, speed and stamina. He had very good first touch and skills. But he was not as wilely as a Messi or even Latapy. He used to get some good jamming. In the end it did not work out, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: vb on February 10, 2017, 11:57:22 PM
I saw him in 2010 playing for the US vs TT in a WC qualifier.

The US had already qualified and were letting fellows on the periphery of the team get a run.

Freddy did not look out of place. I am surprised he can't even get a regular MSL contract.

Tough luck indeed.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on February 11, 2017, 06:20:06 AM
I have no basis for this, but when I see such a rapid personal decline...when even the people who like yuh won't give you a bligh, I always suspect some manner of substance abuse.

Even if he was overhyped, the player that he was shouldn't have trouble finding a decent level of club. All them short stints at clubs of decreasing pedigree, he was obviously good enough to sign. But, once he sign, something turn out to be rotten.

Me eh know. Sound like drink, drogas or mental unwellness to me. Not talent.

Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: FF on February 11, 2017, 08:35:10 AM
Freddy Adu is 35. Allyuh really believe he was 14 when he get sign?
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: maxg on February 11, 2017, 03:37:57 PM
Freddy Adu is 35. Allyuh really believe he was 14 when he get sign?
saw him with the US team in the U20 World Cup in 2007. This guy definitely was NOT overhyped on a football level. On the day he scored a hat trick, and then next game, wuk-up Brazil, btw, Altidore scored twice, wiki say Adu assisted on both, but I don't remember that, I just remember he had the Brazilians in ah mess.
 Adu was real good, so up to this day, Like Dinner Mints, I baffled as per the professional club career.
nb: Argentina won with then young men Ageuro and Di Maria, I ddidn't get to see them then, but heard about them a lot, and even more now.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: raj on February 12, 2017, 04:32:17 PM
http://www.byfarthegreatestteam.com/posts/much-adu-nothing/

Posted By: Lee Spencer February 12, 2017
Back in 2004 there was a lot of noise from America, as D.C. United had signed an unknown 14-year-old in the MLS Super Draft. Fast forward three months and the same young player made his debut, becoming the youngest ever to play in the MLS. Two weeks later, another record broken as he became the youngest ever player to score in the MLS.
Here was a player who was already being touted as a United States future star. Mentions of being the next Pele seemed farfetched, but for those that had watched him he seemed the real deal.
Yet for a player that had the world at his feet, young Fredua Koranteng Adu became a journeyman of the footballing world. For those with a Football Manager background this name will mean a lot. For those who havent played the game, this is the story of potential super star and his dramatic fall. The young American was Freddy Adu.
In his first season, he appeared in all 30 games for D.C. United, although many were as a substitute, but as first seasons go it was a decent start. His second season he was even invited over for a trial with Manchester United, although they decided not to take on the young American.
That season however, Adu started in majority of the games for D.C. United with Adu now playing in midfield. At the end of the season he was traded to Real Salt Lake. Then, after three seasons in the MLS and having scored 11 in 87 appearances for D.C. United and 1 goal in 11 for Real Salt Lake, Benfica secured the rights from the MLS for a fee of 2 million dollars in 2007.
Finally, Adu had his big money move to Europe, albeit in the Portuguese league. Benfica were playing Champions League football, which was Adus dream. and he made his debut against Copenhagen in the qualifying match.
The move soon turned sour as the following season Adu was loaned out to Monaco, the French Ligue 1 club. Monaco had the option to buy him at the end of the season long loan, but Monaco turned down the chance to sign him.
Next came another season loan to Portuguese club Belenenses. Adu got injured on his first league start they quickly ended his season long loan. In 2010 another season loan came about, this time to Greek side Aris. Adu played 5 times and scored once during his time in Greece but the season didnt work out well.
His final year with Benfica was again spent on loan, this time with Turkish second division club Caykur Rizespor where Adu played between the first team and the second team. Again, he returned to Benfica, who had seen enough.
In August 2011 he was back playing in the MLS, as he signed for Philadelphia Union. After two season,s having scored only 7 times in 35 matches, he found himself in a swap deal. Kleberson moved to Philadelphia Union and Adu moved to Brazilian club Bahia. He lasted 7 months before being released by the club.
Then came trials all over Europe for Freddy. In 2014 he even started training with Blackpool, however he failed to impress the club and they decided against offering him a contract.
Adu finally signed for Jagodina on a 6 month contract. After one appearance, the Serbian club decided not to renew his contract. Next came KuPS in 2015, he lasted 4 months before leaving the club.
His final club was Tampa Bay Rowdies. Adu played for the Rowdies for two seasons in the North American Soccer League. His contract expired in December 2016 with Adu citing to be sorting things out and hoping to take the next step soon.
More recently however he had a trial with Portland Timbers in 2017 but once again a contract failed to materialize, apparently he had not done enough to warrant a contract.
Adu is the first to admit he never dedicated his time to the sport. He openly admits his career failing is down to him.
Yes, he has had some bumps along the way. Not being paid by Serbian club Jagodina and Bahia in Brazil has not helped. Yet even earning a move to Philadelphia Union, with a large contract, Adu still was unable to stay focused with too many distractions.
Of course at 27 time is still on his side, just. But he needs to find his way soon as well as a new club.
Freddy Adu always had the talent just unfortunately not the commitment to make it to the top. Maybe someone, somewhere, will take one final gamble at the player people dubbed the next Pele.
For Freddy Adu it would really be last chance saloon.
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: maxg on February 12, 2017, 04:55:32 PM
thanks raj

sound like a boat-ride specialist  ;D
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 01, 2017, 06:28:14 AM
Freddy Adu joins Polish club Sandecja Nowy Sacz on trial against manager's wishes
By James Kilpatrick (Sky Sports)


Former USA international Freddy Adu has joined newly-promoted Polish club Sandecja Nowy Sacz on trial, despite the manager not wanting him there.

Adu was once regarded as one of the world's brightest young talents; aged 14, he was dubbed "the next Pele" by the Brazilian legend. Now 28, he is continuing his globe-trotting career in eastern Europe and was announced as a trialist by Sandecja on Twitter.

Should he join the Ekstraklasa side on a permanent basis, it will be the 14th club he has turned out for, and in a ninth different country.

Adu was most recently on trial with Portland Timbers earlier this year, but failed to earn a contract with the MLS outfit. He has not been attached to a club since he was released by NASL side Tampa Bay Rowdies at the end of 2016.

Despite Adu's vast experience, Sandecja manager Radoslaw Mroczkowski is far from happy that he is on trial with his squad.

"It's a joke," Mroczkowski told Polish website Sportowefakty.pl.

"I read in the media about his trial. I asked the sporting director, [Arkadiusz Alexander] why he did not tell me anything [about Adu]. After all, he sent me a text message that there "will be a player on trial" and that they all knew.

"Marketing knew, the staff at the club knew... only the coach did not know who the trialist was."

Adu has already landed in Poland ready for a trial, but Mroczkowski insists he does not want anything to do with the American.

He added: "Whoever invited him, let him trial him. What is the point of having such a player?

"The CEO says that it's marketing. We may as well have Janusz Chomontek [a Polish football freestyler]."
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: soccerman on August 01, 2017, 09:24:42 AM
Just now Freddy might end up in the Pro League
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: vb on August 01, 2017, 11:27:04 AM
Sad how this man end up and I can't understand why.

I saw him around 210 playing for a US A team after they had already qualified for the WC - vs TT.

He was around 20 and held his own easilly.

The man not that shtty. Even if people chose to overhype him, the man like he just CAN'T get a contract at any level.

VB
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: FF on August 01, 2017, 12:06:03 PM
Because he is really 35 and over the hill
Title: Re: Freddy Adu Thread
Post by: raj on August 01, 2017, 08:30:24 PM
FROM ESPN:
Freddy Adu rules out Polish club move after manager labels transfer 'a joke'

Freddy Adu
Freddy Adu has been without a club since being released by Tampa Bay Rowdies in 2016.
Former U.S. international Freddy Adu has pulled out of a move to Polish team Sandecja Nowy Sacz, after their manager called the transfer "a joke."

Adu, 28, was regarded as one of the game's brightest talents as a teenager but has since struggled to establish himself, playing for 13 different clubs in eight different countries.

Sandecja, however, will not be added to that list, with Adu taking to Twitter in a series of tweets to explain his situation.

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"Just wanted to let everyone know that I will not be signing with Sandecja. I have been in a situation like this before in Monaco and it ended badly," he said.

"I havnt had a chance to train or do anything with the team but I have to find the best situation for my career.

"It is important to have everyone on board before signing and that's not the case here so I've decided to wait for a better situation!

"Thanks for the continued support!

"In the past I would sign and never get a chance to play. I do not want to make that mistake again!

"Some people might try and spin this as a bad thing but I see it as a good decision because I do not want to be in the middle of this!

"Definition of insanity is when you keep doing the same thing and expecting different results. At some point you gotta learn from mistakes!

"Just when you think you have seen it all!!! Man lol it feels like I can't catch a break! Was excited about the opportunity but it wasn't meant to be. Hopefully a better opp comes!

"I've been used by too many people over the years for publicity and exposure and I am determined not to let that happen anymore!"

Earlier on Tuesday, manager Radoslaw Mroczkowski said he was not happy about the prospect of Adu joining the club.

"It's a joke," Mroczkowski told Polish website Sportowefakty.pl. "I read in the media about his trial. I asked the sporting director [Arkadiusz Alexander] why he did not tell me anything [about Adu]. After all, he sent me a text message that there 'will be a player on trial' and that they all knew. Marketing knew, the staff at the club knew... Only the coach did not know who the trialist was."

But Mroczkowski added: "Whoever invited him, let him trial him. What is the point of having such a player? The CEO says that it's marketing. We may as well have Janusz Chomontek [a Polish football freestyler]."

According to Sportowefakty.pl, Sandecja had wanted to sign Adu in the winter, but Mroczkowski did not approve of the move.

Adu, who has been without a club since being released by NASL side Tampa Bay Rowdies in 2016, was on trial with Portland Timbers earlier this year but failed to win a contract with the MLS club.
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