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Sports => Football => Topic started by: kingman on March 26, 2006, 10:22:43 AM
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I know that we spoke about this guy more than one occasion on this site. I need to know though, is Jack Warner that bad of a person? Yes, he has been found guilty of some counts of corruption. But don't you guys think that all the good things to help Trinidad football move forward over shadowed his corrupted acts? I believe if was not for Jack we might not have even been in the World Cup. It is he that introduced that 4th team option, he got Dr Joao Havelange to help fund the Center for Excellence (now known as the Marvin Lee Stadium), he personally funded all Marvin Lee’s medical expenses, he personally supported the Trinidad and Tobago football team with his own finances, he brought the 2001 FIFA World Cup to Trinidad and Tobago, he brought the idea of a professional football league to Trinidad and Tobago and personally sponsored a team, he got involved in our players personal conflicts and helped resolved it (Nakhid in Lebanon), he helped our plays got release from their clubs when they were given problem and then hired private jets/helicopter to fly our players back to their clubs as soon as they are done with national duty. This is just touching the surface. I think he should not be bashed as much as he should. Although, I do agree that he may be some what corrupt. But who isn't in some way or the other?
Kingman
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How much did JW offer you for posting this?! ;)
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How much did JW offer you for posting this?! ;)
LOL, Nothing man. I just does watch how some people does bash the man and decide to give them some food for thought. You feel you.
Kingman
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Kingman I have to agree with yuh there.De man did a lot for T&T football.Invested many hours and millions of dollars. The ticket fiasco was Warner's attempt to get a return on his investment.I can't blame him for that, but the conflict of interest was just to glaring ...he should have know better.
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Kingman I have to agree with yuh there.De man did a lot for T&T football.Invested many hours and millions of dollars. The ticket fiasco was Warner's attempt to get a return on his investment.I can't blame him for that, but the conflict of interest was just to glaring ...he should have know better.
So true. :beermug:
Kingman
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Kingman I have to agree with yuh there.De man did a lot for T&T football.Invested many hours and millions of dollars. The ticket fiasco was Warner's attempt to get a return on his investment.I can't blame him for that, but the conflict of interest was just to glaring ...he should have know better.
I cannot agree. Are you saying that he 'deserves' to hold the monopoly on ticket sales, to the detriment of every T&T national and/or die-hard supporter? Are you saying that he should have done it in a less 'obvious' way and that would have been alright?
Yes, Mr. Warner has done alot for T&T football. He has given much to charities. That does not and cannot justify the extent of the corruption that has come to be associated with him, his family and their ventures.
This casual acceptance that we Trinis for the politricks and machinations of our so-called leaders has got to change.
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Kingman I have to agree with yuh there.De man did a lot for T&T football.Invested many hours and millions of dollars. The ticket fiasco was Warner's attempt to get a return on his investment.I can't blame him for that, but the conflict of interest was just to glaring ...he should have know better.
I cannot agree. Are you saying that he 'deserves' to hold the monopoly on ticket sales, to the detriment of every T&T national and/or die-hard supporter? Are you saying that he should have done it in a less 'obvious' way and that would have been alright?
Yes, Mr. Warner has done alot for T&T football. He has given much to charities. That does not and cannot justify the extent of the corruption that has come to be associated with him, his family and their ventures.
This casual acceptance that we Trinis for the politricks and machinations of our so-called leaders has got to change.
You have a point there too sweet heart. But i still feel he brought more good than bad to Trinidad football. Would you agree with that?
Kingman
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I've been thinking about this for awhile. We all know the platitudes - it good to have a Trini on FIFA, how else we woulda get (everything from CONCACAF seeding to the World Cup Draw). I can't deny that Jack is a brilliant administrator, someone who turned CONCACAF around and made us an international force to be reckoned with.
At the same time, no, he's not good for T&T football. We are an international laughing stock - nuff people in England is be like, oho, Jack Warner - ent he real corrupt? We are steadily losing any respect that our Warriors earned by qualifying. FIFA is institutionally corrupt, from top to bottom, but do we have to be so closely associated with that corruption? The man tried to deny Lasana accreditation - ah mean, Liburd is a damn good writer. And all of this UNC/PNM simmy dimmy - when people have to ask if the reason the TTFF not supporting the LOC cultural contingent to Germany have to do with the Jack-PNM divide - how that could be a good ting?
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Kingman this is going to be an ongoing debate.
I saw this article this morning.
Trinidad Express
Cudjoe: Warner deserves praise (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=146061976)
Sunday, March 26th 2006
Professor Selwyn Cudjoe, president of NAEAP, during his addresses at yesterday's forum.
FIFA Vice President Jack Warner, who was recently accused of "conflict of interest" in the selling of World Cup 2006 tickets through the Simpaul Travel Agency which he had owned, should be praised for his accomplishments rather than criticised.
This was the view expressed by President of the National Association for the Empowerment of African People (NAEAP) Selwyn Cudjoe while speaking yesterday NAEAP conference on the PNM 50th anniversary held at the Centre of Excellence, Macoya.
He noted that though Warner "has his problems" he should be applauded for what he has achieved, including being a Trinidadian on the executive board of FIFA and assisting the national football team in reaching the World Cup.
"Leh we give Jack his jacket," Cudjoe urged the packed audience. He said that the tendency to point out failures and shortcomings was part of the self contempt endemic to Third World countries. He related this behaviour to discussions of the PNM, noting that people complained about the negative and neglected the party's achievements.
He said that, similar to the PNM, citizens are eager to magnify the shortcomings and minimise the achievements of the first Prime Minister Eric Williams. He also chastised the present leadership of the party for not doing a "good job" in educating citizens about the party's achievements over its 50 years in existence. He said that people should begin to celebrate and reflect on the memories of the early achievements of the party.
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The man tried to deny Lasana accreditation - ah mean, Liburd is a damn good writer.
Warner real nasty fuh doing that man.8)
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"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Jack is the reason why the TTFF so incompetent. His old boys club has probably done more harm to Trinidad and Tobago football than we will ever know. The only time the TTFF does get off the a$$ is when Jack crack the whip. The only time Jack does crack the whip is when he have something to gain.
Why do we constantly praise Jack for doing his job. The man get a 4th spot for Concacaf. AND!!!
Every federation trying to get an extra spot. Jack did not personally fund or help implement Mexico's or USA's development program. Hence it is only fair to give him credit for doing his job.
The problem with us Trini's is that we all live for today. Jack is good for the short term. What is he doing to ensure continued development. I am sure that everyone on this board can name someone who they think can contribute greatly to T&T's foot ball legacy and never will because of Jack's Crooney's
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There is corruption in every aspect of life and sports. Jack has done a great deal for Trinidad and Tobago. He should of been a bit more subtle in pulling his scam so he could make a profit. He is no different than any other person of authority in Trinidad and Tobago. Just be a little smoother next time Jack.
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Kingman I have to agree with yuh there.De man did a lot for T&T football.Invested many hours and millions of dollars. The ticket fiasco was Warner's attempt to get a return on his investment.I can't blame him for that, but the conflict of interest was just to glaring ...he should have know better.
I cannot agree. Are you saying that he 'deserves' to hold the monopoly on ticket sales, to the detriment of every T&T national and/or die-hard supporter? Are you saying that he should have done it in a less 'obvious' way and that would have been alright?
Yes, Mr. Warner has done alot for T&T football. He has given much to charities. That does not and cannot justify the extent of the corruption that has come to be associated with him, his family and their ventures.
This casual acceptance that we Trinis for the politricks and machinations of our so-called leaders has got to change.
You have a point there too sweet heart. But i still feel he brought more good than bad to Trinidad football. Would you agree with that?
Kingman
I agree with you, Kingman. If we are talking about football, then I think Jack has had a positive effect on our football. Many of our players would not have had the opportunities they have had were it not for him and we would arguably not be where we are today.
As for squabbling with a football writer, or taking the profits from d tickets (as opposed to some other travel agency taking d profit) - in my view that has nothing to do with whether we win or lose games.
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"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Jack is the reason why the TTFF so incompetent. His old boys club has probably done more harm to Trinidad and Tobago football than we will ever know. The only time the TTFF does get off the a$$ is when Jack crack the whip. The only time Jack does crack the whip is when he have something to gain.
Why do we constantly praise Jack for doing his job. The man get a 4th spot for Concacaf. AND!!!
Every federation trying to get an extra spot. Jack did not personally fund or help implement Mexico's or USA's development program. Hence it is only fair to give him credit for doing his job.
The problem with us Trini's is that we all live for today. Jack is good for the short term. What is he doing to ensure continued development. I am sure that everyone on this board can name someone who they think can contribute greatly to T&T's foot ball legacy and never will because of Jack's Crooney's
Thank you. Great post.
The TTFF is a failure as an organization and if he has been running it for the past 15 years he has to be held accountable for its failure.
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JDB we are the smallest nation ever to make it to a World Cup.I am sure you will agree with me that is no small achievement, by no stretch of the imagination.Failure? I think not. You should also agree that the TTFF deserves some credit for this accomplishment and since Jack's been running it for the past 15 years he deserves some credit too.
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"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Jack is the reason why the TTFF so incompetent. His old boys club has probably done more harm to Trinidad and Tobago football than we will ever know. The only time the TTFF does get off the a$$ is when Jack crack the whip. The only time Jack does crack the whip is when he have something to gain.
Why do we constantly praise Jack for doing his job. The man get a 4th spot for Concacaf. AND!!!
Every federation trying to get an extra spot. Jack did not personally fund or help implement Mexico's or USA's development program. Hence it is only fair to give him credit for doing his job.
The problem with us Trini's is that we all live for today. Jack is good for the short term. What is he doing to ensure continued development. I am sure that everyone on this board can name someone who they think can contribute greatly to T&T's foot ball legacy and never will because of Jack's Crooney's
Thank you. Great post.
The TTFF is a failure as an organization and if he has been running it for the past 15 years he has to be held accountable for its failure.
Hi Folks
Most Times , people who achieve high positions, are driven by self interests.
So that Jack has done remarkably well to achieve these lofty positions.
FIFA also has done great things for Football, but is also very corrupt. So in such a corrupt environment, and to achieve high status , you have to be very good, and also be able to condone a lot of corruption.
So that when the opportunity arises, to benefit, it is easy to do like the others.
So we are proud to have one o' we in this "great ' association, but you have to be like them, to be among them. So YOU achieve for yourself and should be generous to those you represent.
But as we are nearing one of our greatest accomplishments in Sport, I think we should just see the best in others and be positive, and hope that the greatness of our soca-boys rub off on us.
Can we not lobby for sportsmen/entertainers who gain international status, receive some kind a pension for life.
There should be some measure to reward our " Heroes". People like Sparrow , Rudder or past greats like Gally etc, after say selling #s records or playing #s matches or winning # medals , should receive some award , which would entitle them to some kind of additional pension after 65.
Political Ambassadors and politicians get it, so why not our real ambassadors
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Can we not lobby for sportsmen/entertainers who gain international status, receive some kind a pension for life.
There should be some measure to reward our " Heroes". People like Sparrow , Rudder or past greats like Gally etc, after say selling #s records or playing #s matches or winning # medals , should receive some award , which would entitle them to some kind of additional pension after 65.
Political Ambassadors and politicians get it, so why not our real ambassadors
:applause: :applause: Now that is class. Cultural ambassadors - lord knows we need them. As Explainer said - how we does treat our heroes so!
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JDB we are the smallest nation ever to make it to a World Cup.I am sure you will agree with me that is no small achievement, by no stretch of the imagination.Failure? I think not. You should also agree that the TTFF deserves some credit for this accomplishment and since Jack's been running it for the past 15 years he deserves some credit too.
F A I L U R E
You can't even begin to defend the incompetence of the TTFF in managing local football.
What is acheived by our local footballers is, for the most part, IN SPITE OF the TTFF.
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[Can we not lobby for sportsmen/entertainers who gain international status, receive some kind a pension for life.
There should be some measure to reward our " Heroes". People like Sparrow , Rudder or past greats like Gally etc, after say selling #s records or playing #s matches or winning # medals , should receive some award , which would entitle them to some kind of additional pension after 65.
Political Ambassadors and politicians get it, so why not our real ambassadors
Licks, with regard to the pension idea for entertainers - although they might be special to us, they are not selling records for altruistic reasons - they were doing it for their own financial gain. What you're saying is that people who are successful should be awarded with even greater (financial) success. From a financial perspective, it wouldnt be sensible for a government to do this.
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Ah, you see I disagree. Whether or not men like Sparrow and Kitch was doing things to make money, they are our cultural icons, and we shoulda taken better care. Why we must build a house for Lara and have people like Chalkie living in obscurity to all but the few?
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The man tried to deny Lasana accreditation - ah mean, Liburd is a damn good writer.
Warner real nasty fuh doing that man.8)
I 2nd that
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Ah, you see I disagree. Whether or not men like Sparrow and Kitch was doing things to make money, they are our cultural icons, and we shoulda taken better care. Why we must build a house for Lara and have people like Chalkie living in obscurity to all but the few?
Lara was representing Trinidad as part of the West Indies team.
Chalkie was not representing TnT. I think National Awards are an excellent way of rewarding entertainers. If they are successful entertainers and ambassadors then they should have no need for compensation from the government. Bob Marley would be my example (but I think we are going off-topic... :D)
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eh, so Kitchener et al, our musicians, are unrepresentative of T&T because they don't belong to a team? David Rudder as an exponent of the form? I mean, there's a HUGE difference between the contempt shown by people like Naipaul and the contributions of the John La Rose's of this world, who died without anyone knowing what he'd done for the country.
....but yes, we definitely off topic.
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eh, so Kitchener et al, our musicians, are unrepresentative of T&T because they don't belong to a team? David Rudder as an exponent of the form? I mean, there's a HUGE difference between the contempt shown by people like Naipaul and the contributions of the John La Rose's of this world, who died without anyone knowing what he'd done for the country.
....but yes, we definitely off topic.
smi, I agree with you that the government should provide funding for the local entertainment and arts industries. My gripe was more to do with Licks' idea about a pension based on number of records sold - I think that idea is impractical.
But, while I agree that they are representative of TnT, I think we will have to agree to disagree on whether they are directly representing TnT.
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eh, so Kitchener et al, our musicians, are unrepresentative of T&T because they don't belong to a team? David Rudder as an exponent of the form? I mean, there's a HUGE difference between the contempt shown by people like Naipaul and the contributions of the John La Rose's of this world, who died without anyone knowing what he'd done for the country.
....but yes, we definitely off topic.
[/quot. My gripe was more to do with Licks' idea about a pension based on number of records sold - I think that idea is impractical.
All I am saying is that we should compensate our heroes/real ambassadors, whether it is sportsmen or artists, and we should find some way to measure their accomplishment whether its medals or airplay etc.
Too many of our artists, sportsmen etc ketching hell, and are forgotten after bringing recognition to their country, while politicians etc are well rewarded (perks, pensions etc) for their "paid " service.
Enough said.
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i originally thought this was a thread about kelvin jack.......then i see it was bout the other jack.......................and yes he that bad
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A corrupt man, whether they try to redeem themselves using corruption, is still corrupt. We should have a no tolerance policy on corruption, even if we benifit from it. That's the problem with T&T, how can you tell the government they should tief when you get the opportunity to benifit from it and turn a blind eye?
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stewpssssssss KINGMAN...
HE IS A CORRUPT, UNETHICAL MAN...
HE BELIEVES HE'S GOD.
YUH KNOW HOW MANY MAN GEH HOSPITALIZED BY APPOSING HIM...?
He is ah complete mafia man...
so please dun dis shit talk before we go through all dis rubbish again...
FAWK need tuh start buyin soma dem guns comin in from Venezuala oui... (sigh)
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The man tried to deny Lasana accreditation - ah mean, Liburd is a damn good writer.
Warner real nasty fuh doing that man.8)
Stewpsssssss
and you wasnt de same man saying Lisana was unreasonably attackin Warner.
Ah glad like yuh change yuh mind.
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stewpssssssss KINGMAN...
HE IS A CORRUPT, UNETHICAL MAN...
HE BELIEVES HE'S GOD.
YUH KNOW HOW MANY MAN GEH HOSPITALIZED BY APPOSING HIM...?
He is ah complete mafia man...
so please dun dis shit talk before we go through all dis rubbish again...
FAWK need tuh start buyin soma dem guns comin in from Venezuala oui... (sigh)
How much men get hospitalised? Name one....The man helped us reach WC...A move which could change the way Football is played and how it is looked at in T&T and even the Caribbean...He has made some shady moves but what he has done could change History for us....Is he that bad??? none of us could answer that correctly because his character contradicts itself....Go T&T
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stewpssssssss KINGMAN...
HE IS A CORRUPT, UNETHICAL MAN...
HE BELIEVES HE'S GOD.
YUH KNOW HOW MANY MAN GEH HOSPITALIZED BY APPOSING HIM...?
He is ah complete mafia man...
so please dun dis shit talk before we go through all dis rubbish again...
FAWK need tuh start buyin soma dem guns comin in from Venezuala oui... (sigh)
boy who is this lickle backside oui? aye donkey, yuh probbaly cah even wipe yuh assho@e properly but yuh opening yuh arse. look at yuh, monkey see, monkey do. yuh taking chain up. boy, yuh is 15 years. wah yuh know about jack. seriously? leave them things for elder heads nah yuh is ah jess cum. yuh so facking dence oui. eh eh.....oh yuh secretary of youth affairs. ::) why yuh aint gone make fares, yuh donkey yuh. sheup!!!
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stewpssssssss KINGMAN...
HE IS A CORRUPT, UNETHICAL MAN...
HE BELIEVES HE'S GOD.
YUH KNOW HOW MANY MAN GEH HOSPITALIZED BY APPOSING HIM...?
He is ah complete mafia man...
so please dun dis shit talk before we go through all dis rubbish again...
FAWK need tuh start buyin soma dem guns comin in from Venezuala oui... (sigh)
boy who is this lickle backside oui? aye donkey, yuh probbaly cah even wipe yuh assho@e properly but yuh opening yuh arse. look at yuh, monkey see, monkey do. yuh taking chain up. boy, yuh is 15 years. wah yuh know about jack. seriously? leave them things for elder heads nah yuh is ah jess cum. yuh so facking dence oui. eh eh.....oh yuh secretary of youth affairs. ::) why yuh aint gone make fares, yuh donkey yuh. sheup!!!
Yuh didn't have to kill the man so... :rotfl: allyuh good yes
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stewpssssssss KINGMAN...
HE IS A CORRUPT, UNETHICAL MAN...
HE BELIEVES HE'S GOD.
YUH KNOW HOW MANY MAN GEH HOSPITALIZED BY APPOSING HIM...?
He is ah complete mafia man...
so please dun dis shit talk before we go through all dis rubbish again...
FAWK need tuh start buyin soma dem guns comin in from Venezuala oui... (sigh)
How much men get hospitalised? Name one....The man helped us reach WC...A move which could change the way Football is played and how it is looked at in T&T and even the Caribbean...He has made some shady moves but what he has done could change History for us....Is he that bad??? none of us could answer that correctly because his character contradicts itself....Go T&T
one? aright.
Meh uncle David.
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stewpssssssss KINGMAN...
HE IS A CORRUPT, UNETHICAL MAN...
HE BELIEVES HE'S GOD.
YUH KNOW HOW MANY MAN GEH HOSPITALIZED BY APPOSING HIM...?
He is ah complete mafia man...
so please dun dis shit talk before we go through all dis rubbish again...
FAWK need tuh start buyin soma dem guns comin in from Venezuala oui... (sigh)
boy who is this lickle backside oui? aye donkey, yuh probbaly cah even wipe yuh assho@e properly but yuh opening yuh arse. look at yuh, monkey see, monkey do. yuh taking chain up. boy, yuh is 15 years. wah yuh know about jack. seriously? leave them things for elder heads nah yuh is ah jess cum. yuh so facking dence oui. eh eh.....oh yuh secretary of youth affairs. ::) why yuh aint gone make fares, yuh donkey yuh. sheup!!!
you are just another ignorant ass idiot you doh mind blatant curroption once is in yuh favor... yuh could go ahead and continue to lick Jack bamcee like Ponnix but yuh tink when results doh come and your tiny brain realizes that he's still stealing money how yuh go feel?
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Like people dont remember 1989 ?
Due to that overselling people could have died that day !
I was there in that stadium and I saw people being crushed at the turnstile, 45,000 people in a stadium built for 30,000.
People think thats acceptable ?
We are just dam lucky no one died that day, I will never forget that.
People should think about where T&T could be without him, how do you know we could'nt be even better than we were over the last 20 years ?
Ireland only has a population of 4,000,000 and look how well they have done, and having to qualify from a very difficult european group.
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I know that we spoke about this guy more than one occasion on this site. I need to know though, is Jack Warner that bad of a person? Yes, he has been found guilty of some counts of corruption. But don't you guys think that all the good things to help Trinidad football move forward over shadowed his corrupted acts? I believe if was not for Jack we might not have even been in the World Cup. It is he that introduced that 4th team option, he got Dr Joao Havelange to help fund the Center for Excellence (now known as the Marvin Lee Stadium), he personally funded all Marvin Lee’s medical expenses, he personally supported the Trinidad and Tobago football team with his own finances, he brought the 2001 FIFA World Cup to Trinidad and Tobago, he brought the idea of a professional football league to Trinidad and Tobago and personally sponsored a team, he got involved in our players personal conflicts and helped resolved it (Nakhid in Lebanon), he helped our plays got release from their clubs when they were given problem and then hired private jets/helicopter to fly our players back to their clubs as soon as they are done with national duty. This is just touching the surface. I think he should not be bashed as much as he should. Although, I do agree that he may be some what corrupt. But who isn't in some way or the other?
Kingman
There isn't much information put forward to fully comprehend the merits and or demerits of JW the football administrator. I only have a few question that I hope to get the answers to.
1. If JW could turn CONCACAF around in such a short time, why hasn't he been able to do the same with the TTFA cum TTFF?
2. Did JW fund Marvin Lee's expenses in lieu of the absent player insurance, or mere benevolence?
3. Who administered over the decline of the game in TT?
4. Why did JW stifled the initiatives of the early aspiring pro teams/League (Pro-Pioneers, Suites, etc)?
5. Why does the old TT football fraternity continue to disparage JW ??? ;D
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stewpssssssss KINGMAN...
HE IS A CORRUPT, UNETHICAL MAN...
HE BELIEVES HE'S GOD.
YUH KNOW HOW MANY MAN GEH HOSPITALIZED BY APPOSING HIM...?
He is ah complete mafia man...
so please dun dis shit talk before we go through all dis rubbish again...
FAWK need tuh start buyin soma dem guns comin in from Venezuala oui... (sigh)
Let we don't go there. Don't start! OK? Remember the rules too. No bold writing because it would be considered as shouting. Have some respect for your elders and fellow forumities. Thanks!
Kingman
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Superoli, the national stadium holds 27,000 actually. Yes, it was crazy. I remember distinctly.
Doc, interesting questions. Who knows if Jack paid Marvin expenses from his good heart? I guess only Jack will know. But good questions though.
Remember fellow forumites, i asked a question. "Is Jack really that bad"? I am not saying he is a good man. I stated some pros about him (or what i interpreted as pros) and asked if he is really that bad of a person after all. But thanks for you guys input though. It always appreciated.
Kingman
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stewpssssssss KINGMAN...
HE IS A CORRUPT, UNETHICAL MAN...
HE BELIEVES HE'S GOD.
YUH KNOW HOW MANY MAN GEH HOSPITALIZED BY APPOSING HIM...?
He is ah complete mafia man...
so please dun dis shit talk before we go through all dis rubbish again...
FAWK need tuh start buyin soma dem guns comin in from Venezuala oui... (sigh)
boy who is this lickle backside oui? aye donkey, yuh probbaly cah even wipe yuh assho@e properly but yuh opening yuh arse. look at yuh, monkey see, monkey do. yuh taking chain up. boy, yuh is 15 years. wah yuh know about jack. seriously? leave them things for elder heads nah yuh is ah jess cum. yuh so facking dence oui. eh eh.....oh yuh secretary of youth affairs. ::) why yuh aint gone make fares, yuh donkey yuh. sheup!!!
you are just another ignorant ass idiot you doh mind blatant curroption once is in yuh favor... yuh could go ahead and continue to lick Jack bamcee like Ponnix but yuh tink when results doh come and your tiny brain realizes that he's still stealing money how yuh go feel?
aye cakahole, d only man who licking arse here is you yuh toetee scrapper. watch yuh, following truetrini and he lame organization that doh even exist (FAWK). fawk my arse!! you kidding me? wah you know about jack. just list 5 things about jack, yuh doh even know d man. all ah hear yuh saying is d man corrupt he corrupt. talk facts nah, yuh lil backside. dais like me saying yuh know yuh father corrupted too? eh eh, yuh lickle fassyhole. gone tek ah trombone in yuh bloodclet!!
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Where all de FAWK officals what de tut tull bey kingman asking>>>
AWATT need tuh step in issue this man some treats oh gorm :devil: :devil:
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stewpssssssss KINGMAN...
HE IS A CORRUPT, UNETHICAL MAN...
HE BELIEVES HE'S GOD.
YUH KNOW HOW MANY MAN GEH HOSPITALIZED BY APPOSING HIM...?
He is ah complete mafia man...
so please dun dis shit talk before we go through all dis rubbish again...
FAWK need tuh start buyin soma dem guns comin in from Venezuala oui... (sigh)
boy who is this lickle backside oui? aye donkey, yuh probbaly cah even wipe yuh assho@e properly but yuh opening yuh arse. look at yuh, monkey see, monkey do. yuh taking chain up. boy, yuh is 15 years. wah yuh know about jack. seriously? leave them things for elder heads nah yuh is ah jess cum. yuh so facking dence oui. eh eh.....oh yuh secretary of youth affairs. ::) why yuh aint gone make fares, yuh donkey yuh. sheup!!!
you are just another ignorant ass idiot you doh mind blatant curroption once is in yuh favor... yuh could go ahead and continue to lick Jack bamcee like Ponnix but yuh tink when results doh come and your tiny brain realizes that he's still stealing money how yuh go feel?
First of all Jefferz aka Too-Too mouth ( because all he does talk is S H I T) I never said to support Jack but I am saying what he did for T&T could change history....Secondly....who cares about your uncle David( he probably involved anyway) or I know you just make him up like yuh does make up everything else....Thirdly let me give you an appaulse :applause: FOR spitting MORE CRAP than a Bottom...You does talk 99.9% S H I T 0.1% foolishness...kingman doh study he ...Ask you mother who bamsee i licking ;D ...Allyuh fellas could kill a forum boy...leave this thing for people with sense nah...Go T&T
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allyuh fellas does get real emotional
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I did not want to come in this discussion... but you guys need to show ah lil more class and tact... some of the discussion in here is shameful... on both sides!!
why we always have to go down to this level.... ppl worldwide reading this board.... even more so now that we have qualified for the Cup!
I only have one ting to say on de topic though.....
I find it very ironic that the men and dem who so staunchly defending Jack is de same men who was bawling South football has been and continues to be discriminated against!
Allyuh could cuss meh all allyuh want... i will not be responding in kind (or at all)
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I did not want to come in this discussion... but you guys need to show ah lil more class and tact... some of the discussion in here is shameful... on both sides!!
why we always have to go down to this level.... ppl worldwide reading this board.... even more so now that we have qualified for the Cup!
I only have one ting to say on de topic though.....
I find it very ironic that the men and dem who so staunchly defending Jack is de same men who was bawling South football has been and continues to be discriminated against!
Allyuh could cuss meh all allyuh want... i will not be responding in kind (or at all)
FF thank you. :applause:
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I did not want to come in this discussion... but you guys need to show ah lil more class and tact... some of the discussion in here is shameful... on both sides!!
why we always have to go down to this level.... ppl worldwide reading this board.... even more so now that we have qualified for the Cup!
I only have one ting to say on de topic though.....
I find it very ironic that the men and dem who so staunchly defending Jack is de same men who was bawling South football has been and continues to be discriminated against!
Allyuh could cuss meh all allyuh want... i will not be responding in kind (or at all)
Who staunchly defending Jack??? I say Jack did something that could change history in or country...simple...The PFL getting more teams...U21 playing more quality practice games, Youth Programs setting up,...What do you think that stemming from??? World Cup Qualification of course...Who get more CONCACAF teams to get in WC ??? Anyone who work with Jack Warner will tell you he is a Workaholic....I not saying the man int make some shady moves but all i saying is he make some big and substantial ones...Jefferz jump up and say I licking the man bamsee ??? ....And with regards to South Football being discriminated....IT IS...Check the coaches, the teams, the players...ask any south baller who make National or who was in screening...That is not the issue in this thread so let we forget that.......Go T&T
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I can never excuse a Jack supporter or a man who makes any excuses from him... this is blind ignorance...
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Jack Warner is a hard-working man. He work hard for T&T and the Caribbean. If he was so bad he would have never been where he is today. Jefferz , you don't know what you talking about. You rel stupid man. A foolish idiot to say Jack Warner bad. If you knew anything you would hush yuh stinking mouth. ;D
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Jack Warner is a hard-working man. He work hard for T&T and the Caribbean. If he was so bad he would have never been where he is today. Jefferz , you don't know what you talking about. You rel stupid man. A foolish idiot to say Jack Warner bad. If you knew anything you would hush yuh stinking mouth. ;D
you are a moron... plain and simple...
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Jack Warner is a hard-working man. He work hard for T&T and the Caribbean. If he was so bad he would have never been where he is today. Jefferz , you don't know what you talking about. You rel stupid man. A foolish idiot to say Jack Warner bad. If you knew anything you would hush yuh stinking mouth. ;D
you are a moron... plain and simple...
Aye man... read between de lines.... yuh cussing de man...
a lil scrutiny and thoughtful reading and analysis would go a long way in alleviating a lot of the aggression on this site