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Title: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: sin on April 26, 2006, 11:49:15 AM
This interview was conducted by a dude named Pratyush Khaitan over at his Sportolysis (http://www.sportolysis.com) blog.

It real long, at various points factually inaccurate, but interesting to read.

Onward:

For part 7 of the series, I caught up with Trinidad and Tobago’s Liam Camps. Camps, 18, is a huge sports fan and follows cricket religiously like most from T and T do. Liam got hooked to football when Dwight Yorke signed with Manchester United. From then on, he began to take great interest in football. He followed the team with passion during the ill-fated campaign for the last World Cup. Yorke was one of many who delighted in the inspirational triumph this time around, Camps says.

I thank Camps for agreeing to the interview.

Tell us a bit about the T and T football history and the football culture which exists

Football and cricket are the two major sports in Trinidad and Tobago. The support for the Warriors is typically overwhelming, and hopefully that will be seen in Germany with a sea of red. Twice in our footballing history has the country been in a position to qualify for the World Cup.

The first time was in 1989, but the USA won 1-0 on that occasion. T&T got another life in this campaign, and under the astute leadership of Leo Beenhakker, and as they say, the rest is history.

Full Interview. (http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/04/26/part-7-of-32-the-soca-warriors-interview/)
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Rastaman on April 26, 2006, 07:09:17 PM
Was that Disgruntled... ?
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: morvant on April 26, 2006, 07:24:23 PM
take ah ticket
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: SHOTTA on April 26, 2006, 09:45:21 PM
allyuh sure dis person trini??

oh gorm just point meh in he direction......talkin bout dropping a striker the like of that could rival pele

oh gorm man
ah cross

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Grande on April 26, 2006, 09:52:50 PM
This is Disgruntled in disguise , allyuh eh figure that out yet
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: ndookie on April 26, 2006, 10:26:56 PM
Liam Camps ? check up camps in the directory ....

nex thing you know liam camps is a anti-stern bajan who giving we stik on the net ?
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Bitter on April 27, 2006, 07:58:29 AM
The man name Camps and had to wait in line for a ticket? He uncle Oliver didn't hook him up? Or is it that Jack tell him to blank the man or calling Stern a poacher.
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Mr Mxyzptlk on April 27, 2006, 08:49:42 AM
Right folks. Direct all hate mail here. I, Liam Camps, am indeed Trinidadian, but obviously not with the same "Trinidadian" mentality. All those who think that Stern John is a quality striker clearly have not been following his time at Coventry, in the Premiership, or most of his T&T career. Yes, he's a goalscorer, but he's still a poacher - like Ronaldo.
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Mr Mxyzptlk on April 27, 2006, 09:07:30 AM
The man name Camps and had to wait in line for a ticket? He uncle Oliver didn't hook him up? Or is it that Jack tell him to blank the man or calling Stern a poacher.
Typical Trini mentality - "pull strings to get places... then after you pull the strings, I will criticize you for it." Catch 22.

Even if I had the Oliver strings to pull, I wasn't about to touch them.
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Bitter on April 27, 2006, 10:52:21 AM
The man name Camps and had to wait in line for a ticket? He uncle Oliver didn't hook him up? Or is it that Jack tell him to blank the man or calling Stern a poacher.
Typical Trini mentality - "pull strings to get places... then after you pull the strings, I will criticize you for it." Catch 22.

Even if I had the Oliver strings to pull, I wasn't about to touch them.

So yuh get blank then...
Typical Trini mentality - that is called piccong. If yuh cyah take it, you in the wrong forum.
Ask Trini Infinite  ;)
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Jah Gol on April 27, 2006, 11:06:40 AM
Right folks. Direct all hate mail here. I, Liam Camps, am indeed Trinidadian, but obviously not with the same "Trinidadian" mentality. All those who think that Stern John is a quality striker clearly have not been following his time at Coventry, in the Premiership, or most of his T&T career. Yes, he's a goalscorer, but he's still a poacher - like Ronaldo.

So you're saying a poacher is not a not a good striker? What is your point ? Define what is a good striker,please I need tutelage.
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Rastaman on April 27, 2006, 12:09:54 PM
WoW..that man register just to defend heslef yes...
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Pointman on April 27, 2006, 12:11:37 PM
Ah was feeling yuh up until the Stern John comment. >:(  who else go score goals if Stern ent dey?
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Dutty on April 27, 2006, 12:28:18 PM
WoW..that man register just to defend heslef yes...

 :rotfl: :rotfl:

Dais to tell yuh how much lurkers does really be checkin dis site

I sure stern an dem in dey downtime mus be does pass troo here and want to tell some man HDMC
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: SHOTTA on April 27, 2006, 12:45:05 PM
mr mxyzptlk

yuh frggin mad

i following the man all over

when derby do him ting

when he throw way d sitter in close season for birmingham

whenhe damage he knee

i was dey

i not saying u have to like d amn but to say drop him from d team is a a$$hole statement dat cant be backed up

ah cross >:( >:(

PRESIDENT OF THE STERN FOR GOALS COMITTEE
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: morvant on April 27, 2006, 12:47:42 PM
co-sign all shotta just say

VICE PRESIDENT OF STERN FOR GOALS COMMITTEE
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Rastaman on April 27, 2006, 12:58:35 PM
My grandmother always say "If you have nothing good to say, doh say nothing".....especially nowadays when it have internet an ting...... the whole world read the tata he talk and they also reading all the piccong he getting too.... You feel he go know better next time..?
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Midknight on April 27, 2006, 04:00:45 PM
All those who think that Stern John is a quality striker clearly have not been following his time at Coventry, in the Premiership, or most of his T&T career. Yes, he's a goalscorer, but he's still a poacher - like Ronaldo.

Here's the good news. Congrats to a fairly good article.
Here's the bad news:

1. Ronaldo is NOT a poacher, at least not for the better part of his career (before 2002), and even that is disputable. Does the phrase 'explosive runs' mean anything to you?

2. That Poacher happened to win the Golden Ball for the last WC, win the trophy and has been named World Player of the year 3 times. He must have been doing something right...

3. Stern John's quality is not up for debate. What is is him meriting his place on the Trini team as a striker. You find anyone that has produced as much (and yes include Dwight in that) per match appearances in a TT jersey this last 15 years and eligible and fit to play, and you may have a point. But you won't. You won't find anyone.

4: Ruud Van Nistelrooj IS a poacher. His NT coach has assured him of his place on the Dutch (definitely more talented) NT. Ever wonder why?

5: Who would you put in Stern's place?

 ???
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: samo on April 27, 2006, 07:14:31 PM
 I am NOT a brazil fan, but to make fun of Ronaldo, as midknnight say, the man has won every accolade dey have an you want to drop men like him and Stern??? When Beenie leave ah begging, doh apply for the coaching job...
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: dcs on April 27, 2006, 07:39:51 PM

A few months ago many would have agreed with those statements about Stern.
Allyuh wasn't here when Stern was getting bash left, right and center?

He has turned things around since then.
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: samo on April 27, 2006, 08:11:26 PM
I know men call for Stern to be on de bench, but doh remember men calling for him to get drop.
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Mose on April 28, 2006, 05:05:11 AM
Hmmmm.....
Stern John = goal poacher = Paolo Rossi = clinical finisher = good striker!!
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Coop's on April 28, 2006, 06:54:18 AM
I think guys are trying to relate Strikers to players that play other positions,have other responsibilities,different roles in a game etc

A Striker's role is mainly to get that ball in the back of the net,how they do it varies from player to player,you want to tell me we going to drop someone because they "loafing" and scoring Goals?for someone to have the ability to do that it requires special skills and must be considered very important to any team,every team want guys like that.

Yorke for example,why you think he is not scoring the amount of goals he used to score at Man U? it's because of the roles he plays,with Man U it was put their for him to score,now it's a lot more work where by he is not that close to the Goal on a regular basis.

The thing with forwards is that they are on and off,we see them different when they are on and obviously when they are off,which is the time ppl often find they are no good but remember it's the same guy who have been scoring all the time,i have been through this many times in my career and when i was experiencing down times in my game i would often pass on the responsibility to someone else in that way i still look good with an assist,luckily i had Ron,Len,KJ,Archibald around.

      Again all i want to say is Stern John is the best we have,at this stage we can't IF is what we know we have to go with.
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Mose on April 28, 2006, 07:24:14 AM
Thank you Coop's!
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: samo on April 28, 2006, 10:25:06 AM
agreeed Coops 100%
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 28, 2006, 10:34:55 AM

Again all i want to say is Stern John is the best we have,at this stage we can't IF is what we know we have to go with.


From what I can infer from that last statement yuh saying if better can't be done let the Stern continue.
Am I right or wrong??
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Coop's on April 28, 2006, 10:40:30 AM

Again all i want to say is Stern John is the best we have,at this stage we can't IF is what we know we have to go with.


From what I can infer from that last statement yuh saying if better can't be done let the Stern continue.
Am I right or wrong??

    E X A C T L Y!
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 28, 2006, 10:49:53 AM

Again all i want to say is Stern John is the best we have,at this stage we can't IF is what we know we have to go with.


From what I can infer from that last statement yuh saying if better can't be done let the Stern continue.
Am I right or wrong??

    E X A C T L Y!


I didn't want to get into this argument eh!! But if that is the best Trinidad have to offer then woe be on to us.
And honestly I think better can be done.
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Coop's on April 28, 2006, 11:50:32 AM

Again all i want to say is Stern John is the best we have,at this stage we can't IF is what we know we have to go with.


From what I can infer from that last statement yuh saying if better can't be done let the Stern continue.
Am I right or wrong??

    E X A C T L Y!


I didn't want to get into this argument eh!! But if that is the best Trinidad have to offer then woe be on to us.
And honestly I think better can be done.
I understand what you are saying,but we have to face reality it's what we got take it or leave it.
     My argument is.why are we playing with one forward?can you name me a handfull of good forwards in T&T and their records this season.The thing is I'm away from T&Ta while now and i have not and don't really know a lot of these forwards that T&T have,i base my judgements on the reports and statistics of players,may be too the little i've seen of them on TV which is not much.My senses tells me go with who getting the Goals.
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: rippin on April 28, 2006, 09:58:53 PM
Goals win matches. Let me say it again, Goals win matches. I was one of them men who was calling for Stern head. Stern proved many people on this forum worng. Ruud is a poacher and he was leading the Scoreres in EPL. If Stern get service he will score. If he not getting service he might as well not be on the field.
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Peong on April 28, 2006, 11:08:36 PM
All Stern had was a bad patch.  He was excellent before, and he is excellent now.  Disgruntled haul yuh cyat.
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: trinidad badboy on April 28, 2006, 11:34:00 PM


well said ' goals win matches' so matter how they scored once they get in the back of the net



and thats what stern does welll put the ball in the back of the net



bless
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Big Magician on April 29, 2006, 01:43:04 PM
yuh know i take a few days to read this thread.....man...haul yuh stinking mudder c#nt eh....and give disgruntled that same message too...woe fuh tnt...real woe boy...we in de friggin cup....
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 29, 2006, 01:58:00 PM

man...haul yuh stinking mudder c#nt eh....and give disgruntled that same message too...



look meh here
doh send no message
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: Big Magician on April 29, 2006, 04:23:24 PM
oh ok...ah now see yuh...wha woe you talking bout man??....
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: rippin on April 29, 2006, 11:31:39 PM
Now I know it wasn't only disgruntled fighting down Stern. Stern is very good at what he does. Is just sometimes what he does, does not complement what the rest of the team is doing..

That being said I think the man has shown more mobility and a higher work rate as of recent.

He just need to sharpen up the finishing and we set.
Title: Re: "Stern John: Just a poacher" (and other interesting interview snippets)
Post by: dcs on April 30, 2006, 08:20:30 AM

We in the World Cup in no small part because his form picked up.

Can't remember who but they know themselves....it had people here who say we not going Germany unless Stern catch form....so said so done.

If he didn't come back in a big way we wasn't going nowhere.

Take a look at the goals he scores....to me is some damn good goals.  Alot of them he is just straight up beating the defender to the ball or over powering them.  That is why his form so closely related to his fitness and confidence....is getting his toe that extra half inch in front the defender to poke the ball home that makes the difference...or being a step in front them for a header. 
When he not in shape guess what....he on his ass complaining to the ref with the defender winning the battle.

The man is goal hungry and all he want to do is buss de net...when dat happening he is a big threat for us against the best we've faced.
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