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Sports => Football => Topic started by: saga pinto on May 01, 2006, 08:47:20 AM
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I chose these three countries for obvious reasons because outside of trinidad combined they make up a population close to the one back home,now I was recently invited to a party at a friends home here in miami which was mainly trinis and it so happens the topic was the world cup,well to my surprise myself and maybe 3 other guys was supporting the warriors and this encounter had at least 20 trinis involved,the rest was backing the u.s. or england.
There reasons followed:Here's comments from one guy: I ent living in trinidad no more and when I was there well yuh no I had no other choice but to back them,so I always wanted to live in the U.S. and now that I here is team u.s.a. all the way.
Well you guys might be wondering if I challenged this guy on his point,no I kept silent all through the bashing.
A second person happened to be a young woman:I doh no why allyuh dus waste time with anything trinidad pushing yuh no dem get there by luck and it stops in the first round,so why bother.
Look I could go on and on for hours,but it's reality that we do have people who hate for there own reasons,and it's pervasive especially in our culture,listen you could back whatever team you like it's your right,but take a page from the country you so longed to live in the united states they have people who talk about italy,france,germany,brazil,all tough sides but as one american says whether I was living in germany I'm backing my united states.
I posted this because I was saddened and troubled,This is definitely a reflection of our ongoing struggle as a nation to separate politics from patriotism.
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sellouts! why some trinis so?
i haven't been to miami since dec. but i remember back in 98 when jamaica qualified, all them yardie in miami was proudly flying jamaican falg from their cars - 1st & 2nd generation. i feel like some people is jump off the boat, quickly acquire a freshwater accent, and then think they american...but only in front of the rest of we.
you shoulda ask them how things going with they papers.
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Sounds like yuh limin with some refugees boy
And dey eh want to talk too hard in case somebody in de room is homeland security ;)
I could see how that would get irritating........ whey yuh go do
I meet trinis with horrible suicide blond dye jobs and green contact lenses.....sometimes yuh hadda shake yuh head and move on oui
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saga you is a real sorf man for true. you shoulda rest a proper cuss on them
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Dat ain't no suprise to me at all. Jus dis weekend I was at a little get together and run into a Trini and the man is 27years and leave TNT in 90 and he legal and everyting eh, but ain't been back home since then although his all family that over here does go every year he say and the man didn't even know that We qualify fuh world cup. I had to ask him why he even tell me he is a Trini. ???
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saga you is a real sorf man for true. you shoulda rest a proper cuss on them
:rotfl: ah woulda love to see you in action dey boy Arrow.
But Saga there will always be that element among the ppl...yuh cyar study dem, dey go "come back home" sooner or later. 8)
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I've lived in the US for over 30 years now, I love it there, I'm not moving back, but I still back Germany before the USA. Though that may only be because Germany is better than the US :devil: If the US had been the historically better team I may have switched my loyalties over by now. That said I'm also backing T&T over the US as well.
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I've lived in the US for over 30 years now, I love it there, I'm not moving back, but I still back Germany before the USA. Though that may only be because Germany is better than the US :devil: If the US had been the historically better team I may have switched my loyalties over by now. That said I'm also backing T&T over the US as well.
e-man what's your Trini affiliation(sp) is it that your wife is Trini or other family members?
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I followed our team all my life home and here in the US and as long as i am here in MD the Warriors will always be #1, US soccer will have my respect but no love (bad mind from 89).
Yeah I have met a few trinis here that have either no clue or think we there by fluke, sad to say some of my relatives who have been here since the 70's are not up to date or even care, ah well I have to represent for all, "with boundless faith in our destiny"
GO WARRIORS GO!!
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I've lived in the US for over 30 years now, I love it there, I'm not moving back, but I still back Germany before the USA. Though that may only be because Germany is better than the US :devil: If the US had been the historically better team I may have switched my loyalties over by now. That said I'm also backing T&T over the US as well.
I'm not sure if Germany is better than the US. But i will back TnT over both of them reguardless.
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I've lived in the US for over 30 years now, I love it there, I'm not moving back, but I still back Germany before the USA. Though that may only be because Germany is better than the US :devil: If the US had been the historically better team I may have switched my loyalties over by now. That said I'm also backing T&T over the US as well.
e-man what's your Trini affiliation(sp) is it that your wife is Trini or other family members?
Yes it's by marriage.
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saga you is a real sorf man for true. you shoulda rest a proper cuff on them
Fixed ^
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somebody hook e-man up with a trini green card.
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Why hurt yuh head over something yuh have no control over.
Put the person in a certain drawer in yuh mental file cabinet.
Look and appreciate them for something else other than being Trini or backing a football side....and then move on.
Study you!
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I've lived in the US for over 30 years now, I love it there, I'm not moving back, but I still back Germany before the USA. Though that may only be because Germany is better than the US :devil: If the US had been the historically better team I may have switched my loyalties over by now. That said I'm also backing T&T over the US as well.
I'm not sure if Germany is better than the US. But i will back TnT over both of them reguardless.
??? ??? are you serious??
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I've lived in the US for over 30 years now, I love it there, I'm not moving back, but I still back Germany before the USA. Though that may only be because Germany is better than the US :devil: If the US had been the historically better team I may have switched my loyalties over by now. That said I'm also backing T&T over the US as well.
I'm not sure if Germany is better than the US. But i will back TnT over both of them reguardless.
??? ??? are you serious??
absolutely ... like e-man there is a war in my house as my spouse is german ... and its a major battle to see what t-shirt my 2 yr old will be wearing at the WC. but i am stickin to my guns. i'm not neccessarily saying that we can down right beat them ... but why play or support if you don't believe.
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Sorry to say folks but that is human nature !!!!!!!!!!
Yuh doh have to go abroad to take a poll to see who trinis supporting....Yuh could be home in Trinidad and a lot of people backin ah next team !!!
Aside from the real supporters or more rightly called "Warrior-philes".....plenty people still dont know we qualify for Germany, and if they do know they have NO CONCEPT of the scale of this achievement.
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Saga, I want to believe that such people whom you encountered are in the minority. Unfortunately folks who are the most conspicuous and boisterous on issues such as this (football), politics, economics oftentimes tend to be those that are least informed. (Empty vessels nah).
All I can say is, when you encounter folks such as those, if you see that they may have an open mind and you know to yourself that you are more informed than them on various issues, try to impart some knowledge.
Warriors all the way.....
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T&T HOPES TO SCORE BIG WITH WORLD CUP SHOT
BY DOMINIC BASCOMBE
Twin islands hope football glory will give tourism a much needed fillip and even curb gun crime problem
Never before has so much rested on a game of football.
On November 16, the Trinidad and Tobago footballers beat Bahrain1-0 to snatch a spot in the 2006 World Cup tournament in Germany.
The ‘Soca Warriors’ will be representing the smallest country at this year’s World Cup and are carrying the dreams of the 1.5 million strong population along with them.
But this, it seems, is no ordinary game of football as the qualification for the World Cup tournament, and indeed the route to getting there, has been ascribed with the power to change almost every area of life in the tiny twin island republic.
A massive boost to the country’s renowned Carnival and the tourism sector is widely expected as well as positive contributions in terms of international energy investments. But even plans to tackle rising crime in the island have been promised as a result of the team qualification.
TOURISM
When it comes to idyllic tourist destinations, Trinidad is not traditionally top of the list for many international visitors.
Smaller island Tobago, with its tranquil beaches, enjoys the benefit of tourism while bigger Trinidad relies more on oil and gas to drive its economy.
Controversial broadcaster Darcus Howe believes that the economic potential for the energy industry will be boosted by the country’s World Cup appearance.
“Trinidad is an oil emirate!” he boasted. They are floating on oil and natural gas – what else do they want? This will just add to their grand place in the world.”
However, he doesn’t believe the tourism sector will benefit greatly.
“I don’t think it will have any impact on tourism. Tobago has already almost been saturated with hotels. Trinidad has its carnivals, but there is nowhere to go in Trinidad of much significance. Barbados is the place to go for tourism."
But Forde thinks differently: “The government has been putting a lot of emphasis on tourism and has made an increase in terms of funding and marketing of the tourism industry. We have already had an increase in tourism from the European sector, so now we have a chance to brand the country globally. We expect there will be an increase in hotel accommodation, increase in people selling goods, and developing more in Tobago. It will have a phenomenal influence on the tourism sector.”
Forde believes that the position of soca music could also be improved.
Trinidadian soca has traditionally struggled to achieve the same level of recognition as reggae in neighbouring Jamaica.
While the country is hoping to boost its tourist sector, concerns remain about the impact of local crime on the islands’ image internationally.
There were over 300 murders in Trinidad last year.
A recent crime plan has used the buzz surrounding the team’s success to encourage local criminals to participate in a national gun amnesty.
The Football Gun Amnesty Plan aims to use the victory of the team to encourage gang members to change their lifestyle.
“This Gun Amnesty Plan will use whatever leverage and influence the national football side has with some of these misguided individuals. If the effort produces one positively altered life, or just a few guns, it would still have been worth it," said Jack Warner, FIFA vice president and advisor to the Trinidad and Tobago football federation.
The gun amnesty plan is based on existing plans in places such as Brazil, Canada and Iraq.
“That plan is based on the fact that many of our footballers have emerged from downtrodden neighbourhoods where drug dealers are as commonplace as vendors, and where crime is seen as a career choice," he said.
“The recent victory of our national football team has touched even the gang leaders because these gang leaders identify with the success of the players. Members of the team are quite ready to make an impassioned plea to these gangs to put down their guns, to give themselves, communities, and this country a chance."
However, there has some controversy in the local press and political circles regarding FIFA vice president, Warner, who is also the deputy political leader of the opposition United National Congress.
As head of the local football federation, Warner has been instrumental in promoting the Trinidad and Tobago football team. When the team qualified for the World Cup, he was rightly feted.
In recent weeks concerns have been raised about a possible conflict of interests.
Local newspapers have recently highlighted an agreement struck between the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation and Simpaul Travel. The travel agents has been chosen as the official ticket distributor for the T&T matches.
Warner is a company director of Simpaul Travel.
Local newspapers have also printed letters of complaint, and some argue that local fans interested in purchasing World Cup tickets at a street value ranging between TT$780 (£78) and TT$2,254 (£225) were told to pay TT$30,000 (£3,000).
Warner has adamently denied any conflict of interest.
He insisted that he would not apologise for “the business interests of the Warner Group of Companies".
He made it quite clear that he was acting properly.
At a recent press conference, he pleaded innocent to any wrongdoing.
“The FIFA of which I am proud to be an official has a membership of 207 countries with a cumulative population of over three billion people. Of this number, 24 persons have been selected to be on the FIFA Executive Committee of which Trinidad & Tobago has a member and a vice-president at that!
“In each of the other 23 countries, being a member on the FIFA Executive Committee is considered an honour. In Trinidad & Tobago, however, such a membership seems to be a curse! And why? It is because, in some ways, some people of this country, our country, are cruel and unkind, always bent on belittling persons who are successful, particularly persons like me."
He added that since he had “given selflessly to the cause of football", no one should “attempt to impute improper business practices and conflicts of interest to me."
In a recent press conference, he said that Simpaul Travel, a company owned by his family, held exclusive rights to Trinidad and Tobago’s 2006 World Cup tickets.
ASSASSINATION
The CONCACAF president charged that the allegations were “part of a well-timed, carefully-orchestrated character assassination, designed to devalue any political currency which opponents of the UNC feel I might have been developing as a result of the Soca Warriors' World Cup qualification."
Warner also revealed that the TTFF owed some TT$827,000 (£82,700) to Simpaul Travel, as well as over TT$500,000 (£50,000) to two other Warner family-owned companies – D Coal Pot, and the Emerald Plaza hotel.
That controversy may continue to dominate local media but it will do little to remove the patriotic fervour felt by Trinbagonians in the UK.
In a recent commentary, Trevor McDonald wrote of his support for the Trinidad and Tobago team:
“Make no mistake about it: to my fellow Trinidadians the World Cup draw which puts them in the same group as England is the stuff of dreams. Trinidad and Tobago football, for so long sport’s poor relation in a country that loves cricket, has arrived. And, begging the pardon of Messrs Eriksson and Beckham and at the risk of incurring the wrath of Lord Tebbit and his famous sporting ‘test’, I shall be rooting for Trinidad."
However controversial broadcaster Darcus Howe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darcus_Howe) adopts a different view: “I’m not allowing my head to rule my heart in terms of support. I feel as much a part of the England team with all the black boys they’ve got on the team."
Published: 11 January 2006
Issue: 1200
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That shouldn't come as a big surprise to anybody. Trinidadians are not very patriotic people in the first place. I could remember there were a few assholes who wanted Mexico to beat us. It's something we just have to deal with. While it's beautiful country with great talent and potential like all people from all cultures there part of our attitude that are rotten to the core. Just think about where this "waggonist" thing came about from. A bunch of fair weather fans who a mere few months before were bad mouthing our team. These are the same people who making all the noise for paying $300 TT to see THEIR NATIONAL TEAM play for the last time before our World Cup debut.In fact this is the first time the country will see the entire team since Nov 12. I we making noise for that In reality Trinis don't care about anything but Carnival. If trinis in T&T could do it what can we say for some "trinis" abroad ? Some of them only return home for Carnival.Take dey wine and jam and go back to the cold.
I'm sorry to sound like this but it's how I feel. At the same time I want to acknowledge that there are a lot of Trinis who try their best out there and have never forgotten home. But its fresh water yankee,prodigal son attitude that I can't handle. When will we learn to love our own ?
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Trinidadians are not very patriotic people in the first place.
At the same time I want to acknowledge that there are a lot of Trinis who try their best out there and have never forgotten home.
make up yuh mind....if there are alot of Trinis who try their best and have never forgotten home....how are Trinidadians not patriotic ?
moral of the story: stop generalizing people
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I lived in Canada and now live in the US. I have Canadian and US residency, and I am extremely grateful to both countries for the opportunities, great memories etc: But the day I back them over T&T , is de day, I want to somebody to shoot mih in mih head...
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I lived in Canada and now live in the US. I have Canadian and US residency, and I am extremely grateful to both countries for the opportunities, great memories etc: But the day I back them over T&T , is de day, I want to somebody to shoot mih in mih head...
LMAO
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I'm not sure if Germany is better than the US. But i will back TnT over both of them reguardless.
Germany just ress ah set ah goals (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/93914/germany_vs_usa_4_0/) (<-- click here) on the USA football team ;)
maybe you mean in something else ;D
i saw the game and know the final score ... forget the rankings USA 4th Germany 19th. the US used that game to look at other players and for Arena to evaluate options. Anyways, this US team are ranked outsiders and like Holland will make significant headway at the WC. If the US and GErmany meet in the WC ... the US will win.
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There is not a single Trini in London that I know that is not supporting Trinidad not one dam one.
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sago pinto, as soon as i read your post i thought of my brother-in-law who lives by you in Pembroke Pines. Perhaps you know him? his name is Bobby Singh originally from Chaguanas and he's a deputy Sheriff in Dade County. Anyways, Bobby emigrated to USA when he was 16 or 17 and applied for citizenship and thing and even joined the US Marines. He's about 30 years old now and is a full Yank with American accent, Stars and Stripes flying outside his bungalow, Silverado pickup with a US Marine licence number holder and so on and so forth. And yeah, he rooting for USA over T&T in World Cup. Don't understand it myself but that's just the way it is ???
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From the day I came back to Canada I realized there were three types of West Indians. The first group are people who believe that where they came from is the greatest thing since sliced bread and tore down there country where they lived.
The next group was those who never looked backed when they left. The essentially shit over there former country and had nothing good to say abouth the place and will never return. Those are the ones who live for bad news coming out there countries so they can feel better about the decesion they made and are marvelled when they go back after years to find the place has changed.
The last group are people who realise there are good and bad aspects to the country where they live and the country where they came from and are willing to accept that.
At my old job I had to ladies from Guyana working side by side. One who went home at least once a year sometimes even twice. The other saying she will never go back and hated the place. It is not only T&T people.
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sago pinto, as soon as i read your post i thought of my brother-in-law who lives by you in Pembroke Pines. Perhaps you know him? his name is Bobby Singh originally from Chaguanas and he's a deputy Sheriff in Dade County. Anyways, Bobby emigrated to USA when he was 16 or 17 and applied for citizenship and thing and even joined the US Marines. He's about 30 years old now and is a full Yank with American accent, Stars and Stripes flying outside his bungalow, Silverado pickup with a US Marine licence number holder and so on and so forth. And yeah, he rooting for USA over T&T in World Cup. Don't understand it myself but that's just the way it is ???
so much for maintaining some anonymity........
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sago pinto, as soon as i read your post i thought of my brother-in-law who lives by you in Pembroke Pines. Perhaps you know him? his name is Bobby Singh originally from Chaguanas and he's a deputy Sheriff in Dade County. Anyways, Bobby emigrated to USA when he was 16 or 17 and applied for citizenship and thing and even joined the US Marines. He's about 30 years old now and is a full Yank with American accent, Stars and Stripes flying outside his bungalow, Silverado pickup with a US Marine licence number holder and so on and so forth. And yeah, he rooting for USA over T&T in World Cup. Don't understand it myself but that's just the way it is ???
so much for maintaining some anonymity........
:rotfl: :applause: :joker: :banginghead:
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sago pinto, as soon as i read your post i thought of my brother-in-law who lives by you in Pembroke Pines. Perhaps you know him? his name is Bobby Singh originally from Chaguanas and he's a deputy Sheriff in Dade County. Anyways, Bobby emigrated to USA when he was 16 or 17 and applied for citizenship and thing and even joined the US Marines. He's about 30 years old now and is a full Yank with American accent, Stars and Stripes flying outside his bungalow, Silverado pickup with a US Marine licence number holder and so on and so forth. And yeah, he rooting for USA over T&T in World Cup. Don't understand it myself but that's just the way it is ???
so much for maintaining some anonymity........
;D :rotfl:
Jay boy yuh brother in law just reflecting he initials :bs:
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sago pinto, as soon as i read your post i thought of my brother-in-law who lives by you in Pembroke Pines. Perhaps you know him? his name is Bobby Singh originally from Chaguanas and he's a deputy Sheriff in Dade County. Anyways, Bobby emigrated to USA when he was 16 or 17 and applied for citizenship and thing and even joined the US Marines. He's about 30 years old now and is a full Yank with American accent, Stars and Stripes flying outside his bungalow, Silverado pickup with a US Marine licence number holder and so on and so forth. And yeah, he rooting for USA over T&T in World Cup. Don't understand it myself but that's just the way it is ???
so much for maintaining some anonymity........
you saying i shouldn't have posted my brother-in-law's name and thing on the internet because he might get stalked and shit by some internet pervert?
no worries on that score, remember my bro-in-law is a Deputy Sheriff and and former US Marine and i'm sure i speak for him when i say [american accent]"BRING IT ON!! ;D[/american accent]
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sago pinto, as soon as i read your post i thought of my brother-in-law who lives by you in Pembroke Pines. Perhaps you know him? his name is Bobby Singh originally from Chaguanas and he's a deputy Sheriff in Dade County. Anyways, Bobby emigrated to USA when he was 16 or 17 and applied for citizenship and thing and even joined the US Marines. He's about 30 years old now and is a full Yank with American accent, Stars and Stripes flying outside his bungalow, Silverado pickup with a US Marine licence number holder and so on and so forth. And yeah, he rooting for USA over T&T in World Cup. Don't understand it myself but that's just the way it is ???
so much for maintaining some anonymity........
;D :rotfl:
Jay boy yuh brother in law just reflecting he initials :bs:
:rotfl:
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sago pinto, as soon as i read your post i thought of my brother-in-law who lives by you in Pembroke Pines. Perhaps you know him? his name is Bobby Singh originally from Chaguanas and he's a deputy Sheriff in Dade County. Anyways, Bobby emigrated to USA when he was 16 or 17 and applied for citizenship and thing and even joined the US Marines. He's about 30 years old now and is a full Yank with American accent, Stars and Stripes flying outside his bungalow, Silverado pickup with a US Marine licence number holder and so on and so forth. And yeah, he rooting for USA over T&T in World Cup. Don't understand it myself but that's just the way it is ???
so much for maintaining some anonymity........
you saying i shouldn't have posted my brother-in-law's name and thing on the internet because he might get stalked and shit by some internet pervert?
no worries on that score, remember my bro-in-law is a Deputy Sheriff and and former US Marine and i'm sure i speak for him when i say [american accent]"BRING IT ON!! ;D[/american accent]
hahaha....yuh wicked....poor fella.
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sago pinto, as soon as i read your post i thought of my brother-in-law who lives by you in Pembroke Pines. Perhaps you know him? his name is Bobby Singh originally from Chaguanas and he's a deputy Sheriff in Dade County. Anyways, Bobby emigrated to USA when he was 16 or 17 and applied for citizenship and thing and even joined the US Marines. He's about 30 years old now and is a full Yank with American accent, Stars and Stripes flying outside his bungalow, Silverado pickup with a US Marine licence number holder and so on and so forth. And yeah, he rooting for USA over T&T in World Cup. Don't understand it myself but that's just the way it is ???
bobby sound like one of them dopey indian who used to get beat up in school plenty. now he is a fricking OREO COOKIE SELLOUT!
he must be feel like he is a "good old boy" but in the end somebody will put him in his place and make him realize that he is just another n*****.
working for broward sheriff? THE MOST FRICKING RACIST LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT in so fla? he must be one of them who is plant drugs in people car if they look like they from dade.
SELLOUT!
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sago pinto, as soon as i read your post i thought of my brother-in-law who lives by you in Pembroke Pines. Perhaps you know him? his name is Bobby Singh originally from Chaguanas and he's a deputy Sheriff in Dade County. Anyways, Bobby emigrated to USA when he was 16 or 17 and applied for citizenship and thing and even joined the US Marines. He's about 30 years old now and is a full Yank with American accent, Stars and Stripes flying outside his bungalow, Silverado pickup with a US Marine licence number holder and so on and so forth. And yeah, he rooting for USA over T&T in World Cup. Don't understand it myself but that's just the way it is ???
bobby sound like one of them dopey indian who used to get beat up in school plenty. now he is a fricking OREO COOKIE SELLOUT!
he must be feel like he is a "good old boy" but in the end somebody will put him in his place and make him realize that he is just another n*****.
working for broward sheriff? THE MOST FRICKING RACIST LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT in so fla? he must be one of them who is plant drugs in people car if they look like they from dade.
SELLOUT!
That is not fair to Bobby and I don't know him.
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nah Andre, when he stop car he don't plant no drugs or anything. But i wouldn't put it past him to exercise some police brutality on anyone who talks shit to him :rotfl:
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sago pinto, as soon as i read your post i thought of my brother-in-law who lives by you in Pembroke Pines. Perhaps you know him? his name is Bobby Singh originally from Chaguanas and he's a deputy Sheriff in Dade County. Anyways, Bobby emigrated to USA when he was 16 or 17 and applied for citizenship and thing and even joined the US Marines. He's about 30 years old now and is a full Yank with American accent, Stars and Stripes flying outside his bungalow, Silverado pickup with a US Marine licence number holder and so on and so forth. And yeah, he rooting for USA over T&T in World Cup. Don't understand it myself but that's just the way it is ???
bobby sound like one of them dopey indian who used to get beat up in school plenty. now he is a fricking OREO COOKIE SELLOUT!
he must be feel like he is a "good old boy" but in the end somebody will put him in his place and make him realize that he is just another n*****.
working for broward sheriff? THE MOST FRICKING RACIST LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT in so fla? he must be one of them who is plant drugs in people car if they look like they from dade.
SELLOUT!
:o ??? how you inferring all that from wha Jay said. ???
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pointz,
is true i generalizing but i used to live in so fla. it have a whole set of people like that down there. they is make mih absolutely sick. i think they ashamed of who they are and strive to be something "foreign".
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pointz,
is true i generalizing but i used to live in so fla. it have a whole set of people like that down there. they is make mih absolutely sick. i think they ashamed of who they are and strive to be something "foreign".
Andre as much as it irks me to say this I understand with what yuh saying,and I also agree with the ever articulate Kicker" we must stop generalising" but unfortunately it is what it is there's no identity no self pride.
Now I've asked many trinis this question how do you measure your success since living in united states:Here's the answer from about 50% of them:If you see 5 bedroom house I have,also I drive a bmw sport and my wife a escalade,we have three dogs a mastiff, golden retriver and a pit bull.
Notice how you did'nt hear anything about education or success as it relates to helping out other trinis,only there own self interest........
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pointz,
is true i generalizing but i used to live in so fla. it have a whole set of people like that down there. they is make mih absolutely sick. i think they ashamed of who they are and strive to be something "foreign".
Andre as much as it irks me to say this I understand with what yuh saying,and I also agree with the ever articulate Kicker" we must stop generalising" but unfortunately it is what it is there's no identity no self pride.
Now I've asked many trinis this question how do you measure your success since living in united states:Here's the answer from about 50% of them:If you see 5 bedroom house I have,also I drive a bmw sport and my wife a escalade,we have three dogs a mastiff, golden retriver and a pit bull.
Notice how you did'nt hear anything about education or success as it relates to helping out other trinis,only there own self interest........
I don't think observing a trend is generalising.
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I don't think observing a trend is generalising.
observing a trend is not generalizing....but making a general, all-inclusive statement based on a limited observation, without qualifying it.......is generalizing....no horrors though, because we are all guilty of it from time to time....
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There is not a single Trini in London that I know that is not supporting Trinidad not one dam one.
Same with me. All teh Trinis I know are supporting the Warriors.
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do trinis abroad support the warriors?? umm yeah. anybodyyou encoutered that says otherwise is a smal small minority
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The motivation for the question is a familair refrain and begs one to explore the sesnse of national identity and patriotic well being for ones native land.
The question itself is a little absurb to use an inclusive term like 'all'' gives rise to a simple answer No.
Is like saying do allTNT nationals drink Solo? do all eat Roti? do all Trinis go to the beach? Of course not 'all who live abroad are supporters.
Look we have two TNT organizations in Calgary and not one of these organizations organized a lime for any of the qulayfying games. I would have loved to be among TNT nationals watching the game; instead I ended up in a pub with soem people who could not care one bit!!!!!
Another question might be "DO MOST TNT nationals abroad support?
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I know of a lot of Americans, Panamanians, Belizians, etc who are supporting T&T.
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Well, you can count on one Englishman's support (with the exception of one game).
Will there be a "Lime" for the game in Slough?
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There is not a single Trini in London that I know that is not supporting Trinidad not one dam one.
Same with me. All teh Trinis I know are supporting the Warriors.
Yes they all do now....but how many are waggonists...!!!!!
Spoke to a guy last week htat didn't know we qualified...
Of course I introdused him to socawarriors.net...
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If the US and GErmany meet in the WC ... the US will win.
hole orn
i hav to chat wid ma pardner Jay to see the odds of that an i go get back to you about a friendly wager ;D ;D ;D ;D
kicker ... ah go take yuh up on dat one ... as a friendly wager .... :beermug:
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If the US and GErmany meet in the WC ... the US will win.
hole orn
i hav to chat wid ma pardner Jay to see the odds of that an i go get back to you about a friendly wager ;D ;D ;D ;D
kicker ... by the way watch the US win de WC in 2010 ... first prediction for 2010 ... alll yuh rite it down an rememba de date
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all the trinis that i know personally in columbia, sc support the warriors. i also talk to them regularly about the warrior nation and about this site.
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im a trini who lives in england and im backing the warriors, i've been backing them since i was small and ma friends would laugh when i go around saying dat i scoring like yorke and stern running the mifield like lats! but i'll have the last laugh come the final whistle and TNT beat england! ;D
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Westcoast leh meh know some names I out in these parts since; well over 18 years.
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De start of de World Cup will make it 22 years since I leave home. I'm now a Canadian citizen and I doubt I will ever move back but I will be backing T&T in de World Cup.
Mih aunt who leave home 40 years ago, she go be backing T&T.
Mih mother who leave home 30 years ago and eh really know nutten about football go be backing T&T.
Mih uncle who leave home about 50 years now and barely ever look back often doh have much good to say about T&T go be backing T&T in de World Cup.
Mih wife cousin, who born here from a Vincy father and a Trini mother, he backing T&T.
De caterer fuh mih wedding, he backing T&T. BTW he is a trini too.
And de Indian fellah who own de roti shop around de corner, he backing T&T too.
Dem is just a sampling of some of de people ah could vouch for. Now ah sure it have dem who could care less or who would prefer to back other countries. Like Marc say it have 3 kinds, but I know where I stand.
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There is not a single Trini in London that I know that is not supporting Trinidad not one dam one.
Same with me. All teh Trinis I know are supporting the Warriors.
Unfortunately I must disagree...I know at least three that know T&T in the WC but supporting OTHER teams....and another four who doh even know T&T in Germany, mind yuh I doh think them four even know what happening in Germany, so technically I suppose they would support T&T if they cared about football but currently they seem totally disinterested!. Of the three who actively supporting other teams they all married to Europeans and supporting their adopted homelands. I aint brave like some people who calling out man by name so you go have to take my word fuh this. I know quite a few Trini's who sever all links with T&T once they lef the country and dey accent change in about they time it take fuh the plane to taxi out to Piacro runway fuh takeoff....these are the sort of individuals I am talking about sadly! Yet dey does still comeback fuh Carnival >:(
Generally the majority of Trini's I know in the UK supporting T&T and while they being fairly realistic about our teams performance in the tournament still quite excited about the whole thing.
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If the US and GErmany meet in the WC ... the US will win.
hole orn
i hav to chat wid ma pardner Jay to see the odds of that an i go get back to you about a friendly wager ;D ;D ;D ;D
kicker ... by the way watch the US win de WC in 2010 ... first prediction for 2010 ... alll yuh rite it down an rememba de date
kappy yuh going from bad to worse boy!! ::)
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De start of de World Cup will make it 22 years since I leave home. I'm now a Canadian citizen and I doubt I will ever move back but I will be backing T&T in de World Cup.
Mih aunt who leave home 40 years ago, she go be backing T&T.
Mih mother who leave home 30 years ago and eh really know nutten about football go be backing T&T.
Mih uncle who leave home about 50 years now and barely ever look back often doh have much good to say about T&T go be backing T&T in de World Cup.
Mih wife cousin, who born here from a Vincy father and a Trini mother, he backing T&T.
De caterer fuh mih wedding, he backing T&T. BTW he is a trini too.
And de Indian fellah who own de roti shop around de corner, he backing T&T too.
Dem is just a sampling of some of de people ah could vouch for. Now ah sure it have dem who could care less or who would prefer to back other countries. Like Marc say it have 3 kinds, but I know where I stand.
Mose, I know yuh caterer quite well, and he does back and support anything or anybody Trini....Cricket, swimming, somebody chile studying, carnival....buh ah could tell yuh for a fact, if T&T didn't make it, he and many TTians in this city would jus be backing another team, dah's all...Dey don't really care to get stress over why, cause given the whole situation of T&T, they feel they can't change much, or change enough to affect T&T football, which they know in reality is a very small part in the critical aspects of mant T&Tians lives.....
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well sometimes it have some ah dem just not interested in sports, i have some cus dere, dem eh know de how much men does be on a field. an dem eh concern about dat either, ask dem bout car and music and dem know it all, bot that they don`t love trini, they r here every year.
but my mom iz in long is and she representin to de fullest, she have a flag on she car, and since befor de playoff i have she playin fighter loud in her office ;D
;D ;D
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Well Trinibago people...i'm Trini to my heart...i have been backing my country for year on end...that why went they lose ...ah get vex...but it's all good.... ah really don't care about other team's around the Caribbean, south, central and north America and even European team...(what i meant... other country national football team) ah care only about my country men and that it....well you could say i'm very patriotic....................................SOCAWARRIORS...FOREVER............................
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De start of de World Cup will make it 22 years since I leave home. I'm now a Canadian citizen and I doubt I will ever move back but I will be backing T&T in de World Cup.
Mih aunt who leave home 40 years ago, she go be backing T&T.
Mih mother who leave home 30 years ago and eh really know nutten about football go be backing T&T.
Mih uncle who leave home about 50 years now and barely ever look back often doh have much good to say about T&T go be backing T&T in de World Cup.
Mih wife cousin, who born here from a Vincy father and a Trini mother, he backing T&T.
De caterer fuh mih wedding, he backing T&T. BTW he is a trini too.
And de Indian fellah who own de roti shop around de corner, he backing T&T too.
Dem is just a sampling of some of de people ah could vouch for. Now ah sure it have dem who could care less or who would prefer to back other countries. Like Marc say it have 3 kinds, but I know where I stand.
Mose, I know yuh caterer quite well, and he does back and support anything or anybody Trini....Cricket, swimming, somebody chile studying, carnival....buh ah could tell yuh for a fact, if T&T didn't make it, he and many TTians in this city would jus be backing another team, dah's all...Dey don't really care to get stress over why, cause given the whole situation of T&T, they feel they can't change much, or change enough to affect T&T football, which they know in reality is a very small part in the critical aspects of mant T&Tians lives.....
Ah have to agree with yuh dey!!
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If the US and GErmany meet in the WC ... the US will win.
hole orn
i hav to chat wid ma pardner Jay to see the odds of that an i go get back to you about a friendly wager ;D ;D ;D ;D
kicker ... ah go take yuh up on dat one ... as a friendly wager .... :beermug: WestCoast says: COOL
kicker ... by the way watch the US win de WC in 2010 ... first prediction for 2010 ... alll yuh rite it down an rememba de date: WestCoast says: whey, if ya goin, GO STRONG ;D ;D
an kicker is a nickname for ???
haha...I was wondering how I was gettin' mixed up in that....
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If the US and GErmany meet in the WC ... the US will win.
hole orn
i hav to chat wid ma pardner Jay to see the odds of that an i go get back to you about a friendly wager ;D ;D ;D ;D
kicker ... by the way watch the US win de WC in 2010 ... first prediction for 2010 ... alll yuh rite it down an rememba de date
kappy yuh going from bad to worse boy!! ::)
madness is gladness ... ah stickin wit dat prediction ... the headlines will read USA wins World Cup in 2010