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Sports => Football => Topic started by: jose on June 02, 2006, 04:56:10 AM
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who do you think is the best goal keeper and i mean all round,not jus shot stopper,free kicks, corners,confident
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Gordon Banks.
there will never be another keeper with his allround solidarity.
he practicallly carriede Englands hopes to keep them in the World Cup a few times.
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if we speaking about currently, i wil say peter cech,he has all the right attributes,right height yet he gets down pretty fast,best for me
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Peter Cech probably followed by Cudicini.
I hate Chelsea ;)
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Jose, you're asking a very hard question of people here as there are currently a "whole 'eap" of world class goalkeepers in the world today that can seriosly challenge for the top spot: Kameni, Buffon, Cassillas, Reina, Van der Saar, etc. Â But I will have to agree with both of you that Petr Cech currently MY No.1, while Gordon Banks may arguably be the best of all time.........with Peter Schmeichel laying a serios challenge to that crown.
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Buffon, peter Chec, Coupet & in present form Lehman
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Buffon, peter Chec, Coupet & in present form Lehman
ANC2 has the line up there self with 2 crucial additions,; Iker Casillas (don't get tie up by Real's Ish Defence) followed by an in present form Jose Reina
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Buffon, peter Chec, Coupet & in present form Lehman
I just wouln't include Jens Lehmann in that small fraternity. He and Kahn shouldn't even be on this World Cup squad, I eh know WHAT Klinsmann and Kopke lookin' at.
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Gordon Banks.
there will never be another keeper with his allround solidarity.
he practicallly carriede Englands hopes to keep them in the World Cup a few times.
couldnt agree more
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I like the old guys, Bruce Grobbelaar and Neville Southall (de man didn't look good but he got the job done)
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Iker Casillas is the best. Peter Chec dont get test enough
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Gordon Banks.
there will never be another keeper with his allround solidarity.
he practicallly carriede Englands hopes to keep them in the World Cup a few times.
allyuh not easy...horse u probably see some highlight clips or some videos of the 1966 world cup just like me, but u weren't even born at that time.
talk about men you see on ah regular...not about men you hear about.
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how nobody ent call schmeichel, zenga, preudhomme, nkono??
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Pat Jennings.
Talk done
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Rene Higuita... The self acclaimed best goalkeeper in the world in his time.
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Rene Higuita... The self acclaimed best goalkeeper in the world in his time.
I wouldn't say he was the best omar, rather flambuoyant and unorthodox
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JOey Gonzales, Lincoln Phillips- Clive Burnett.
It is a pity they did not make it to the big stage- Born a generation too early.
Had Ince been given a break with a Premiership side , he would have been right there with the best, when he was voted MVP at the shell cup .
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currently..the best all round goalkeeper is Edwin Van Dar Saar
he's excellent with both feet, sweeps very well, great shot stopper, very experienced, and good on crosses.........the best presently
second is Cech, den Cassias, Coupet dey also..........
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michael 'Brow' maurice.....udder dan de lob, aka 'de sun was in meh eye' incident in '89, he was not half bad..... :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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Right now all them names aint mean nothing to me! The only name of significance is Kelvin Jack. Ask me again after July 9. To hell with everybody else.
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My top two Victor Valdez
& Lens Lehman
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Gordon Banks.
there will never be another keeper with his allround solidarity.
he practicallly carriede Englands hopes to keep them in the World Cup a few times.
allyuh not easy...horse u probably see some highlight clips or some videos of the 1966 world cup just like me, but u weren't even born at that time.
talk about men you see on ah regular...not about men you hear about.
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my step cousin is his nephew and he had videos of him playing in all kinda matches... i saw them the last time i went to london which was a while back... but i spent plenty vacant days soaking up the images of him saving numerous balls and the man was clear cut the most solid overall keeper ever... he was good at judging the flight of the ball, the player himself, crossed balls, low high however they came... if he didnt hold the ball it was only becuase it was a near impossible save and he always parried the ball away from the goal line and the popposing strikers.
the man was simply the best.
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Lehman gets my vote he not only a goalkeeper but he ah badman
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On current form I go say Casillas, the man save Real from getting about a million goals. Doh study the 3 or 4 goals he get, study the 8 or 9 he save after men jes rip Real defense to shreds.
Last year I would ah say Buffon though the man is one of the best shot stoppers I see. He eh really play to much this season due to injury.
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lehmen...
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My top two Victor Valdez
& Lens Lehman
I know Barca is u team eh, but Valdez is NOT A world class keeper.
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My top two Victor Valdez
& Lens Lehman
I know Barca is u team eh, but Valdez is NOT A world class keeper.
let da man know nuh........he cyar even make he own national team..............being fair to him, dats a very hard spanish keeping lineup to break..........
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My top two Victor Valdez
& Lens Lehman
I know Barca is u team eh, but Valdez is NOT A world class keeper.
let da man know nuh........he cyar even make he own national team..............being fair to him, dats a very hard spanish keeping lineup to break..........
I would say he IS a world-class 'keeper. I would put him on the Spanish team ahead of Canizares. We cyah always use making the National team as a standard for determining whether a man is one of the best in his position or not. Politics does play a role in a man's inclusion in a team sometimes, not true?
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Interesting Thread & Interesting Responses
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Desayev from the Soviet Union in the 80s was a serious ass Keeper.
Had he come around 10 years later, he woulld have made some serious money.
VB
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Now fellas leweh en play the if game
it seems like every time one ah these topics come up men does say if
this one had a chance to play here or was born 10yrs later...whatever
Look leh we jus talk about men who have been tested at the highest levels of club/international football because I doh believe none ah we here is God to determine who would or would not have made due to pressure to play, injuries etc.
However talking from keepers who I have seen Ilker Cassilas is a boss, Givens is a decent young player too and ah rate Buffon as well
if a play the if game ah go ha to go wid the man that start the thread
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My top two Victor Valdez
& Lens Lehman
I know Barca is u team eh, but Valdez is NOT A world class keeper.
let da man know nuh........he cyar even make he own national team..............being fair to him, dats a very hard spanish keeping lineup to break..........
I would say he IS a world-class 'keeper. I would put him on the Spanish team ahead of Canizares. We cyah always use making the National team as a standard for determining whether a man is one of the best in his position or not. Politics does play a role in a man's inclusion in a team sometimes, not true?
I rate 1st and 2nd place keepers, 3rd string I don't even consider. You tink anyone know who is Clayton Ince ? And ok, national teams aside, put Valdes on another team, say Real with their aging Defence and if he's able to hold his own like Casillas, i'll take back what i've said. ::)
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i doh kno who fool alya
valdes rel gud yuh cud hole yuh mudda c**t
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My top two Victor Valdez
& Lens Lehman
I know Barca is u team eh, but Valdez is NOT A world class keeper.
let da man know nuh........he cyar even make he own national team..............being fair to him, dats a very hard spanish keeping lineup to break..........
  I would say he IS a world-class 'keeper. I would put him on the Spanish team ahead of Canizares. We cyah always use making the National team as a standard for determining whether a man is one of the best in his position or not. Politics does play a role in a man's inclusion in a team sometimes, not true?
I rate 1st and 2nd place keepers, 3rd string I don't even consider. You tink anyone know who is Clayton Ince ? And ok, national teams aside, put Valdes on another team, say Real with their aging Defence and if he's able to hold his own like Casillas, i'll take back what i've said. ::)
Ah find yuh being a little harsh on my boy, Valdes there, Padna. How could you not rate third string keepers on an International level when most third stringers are better than any of our first-stringers?. Valdes is the first string 'keeper for the top club in Europe and arguably one of the top clubs in the world, and he erned that position by displacing Turkey's "first string" international. He is one of the top 4 or 5 Keepers in Spain, doesn't that make him world class?.........I also think it is a bit unfair to use the notion that he couldn't do the same job with Real Madrid's defence that Casillas has done. There aren't too many goalkeepers in the world that can, Casillas is probably in the top three in the world. In an earlier post, you agreed with someone that rated Lehmann as "one of the best" keepers. Do you seriously think that Lehmann's psycho ass, could perform behind Real Madrid's defence at the level that Casillas has?!? If you believe dat, you smokin something.
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LEV YASHIN
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Here's my list fellas:
Buffon, Casillas, Cech, Van der Sar (showed his class at Man U), Reina (yes; two Spaniards), Coupet, Keller, Friedel, Given, Lehman (finally back to his Dortmond days)
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Shay Given of newcastle is v.v.v.good
2 Bad he play for Ireland
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Here's my list fellas:
Buffon, Casillas, Cech, Van der Sar (showed his class at Man U), Reina (yes; two Spaniards), Coupet, Keller, Friedel, Given, Lehman (finally back to his Dortmond days)
The only man on dat list I could say I have a problem with is (again) Lehmann, Padna. Ah really think that he spends way too much time allowing himself to get caught up in unnecessary drama with opponents and he can be very easily distracted from his and the team's objectives and he sometimes makes some very poor fundamental errors that he should NOT be making for a man of his experience. Smart players would be wise to start capitalizing on that (his mental flaws, that is). I see yuh is a Liverpool fan and even though ah cyah stand yuh team or yuh coach, I have to admit that Reina is definitely one of the most talented GK's I have seen in a while. He has made some ENORMOUS saves for Liverpool.
Is Barthez really still playing at a level to displace Coupet from the first team shirt? Somebody answer dat one fuh meh nuh.
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My list is Schmeicel, Zenga, Seaman, Canizares and Antii Niemi
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schmichel
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Yashin and Banks
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Grande MAn.....either one u old...or 2..u jus goin on wha ya hear...cause they doh have much clips of Yashin out....
ya mus benever see him...
but no doubt he was one of the bestbut ya never see him jed...
but morgz call a keeper that doh get enuff pips----shay given...tink he got the best keeper vote in england this yr. he should ride from newcastle....
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Rene Higuita... The self acclaimed best goalkeeper in the world in his time.
I wouldn't say he was the best omar, rather flambuoyant and unorthodox
He's back ... AGAIN! De man even make ah highlights reel for flubbing a free kick this weekend ... ah clean fuhget buh de Merlene Ottey refusing to retire thing reminded me ...
He's playing with Deportivo Pereira in the Dimayor (Colombia's top flight) ... a team coached by Luis Fernando Suarez, Ecuador's World Cup coach.
To be fair to him, the team he played with previously in the Primera B did well - and, his presence with Dep. Pereira was by special request. He still wants in on the national team! Who knows??
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Zoff, Teffarel, Spiderman, Van Der Sar (did not need to go to United to show his class, always been there) Petr not Kasper, Buffon.
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Yashin...by miles and den yuh hah to turn a corner to reach him
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Right now the best goalkeepers Buffon, Cech and Casillas. Overall I will go with these two Yashin and Banks from the watching clips and reading about them.
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I would have to say Casillas based on current form, well... if you consider six excellent seasons current, since 01-02 he has been outstanding
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1. Buffon (Mr. Consistent; even with a poot Italy)
2. Casillas (right behind, but something bout Buffon; seems to be harder to score on, in my opinion)
3. Van Der Sar (aging like wine)
4. Cech (has not been quite the same since the injury, but still better than the rest)
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YASHIN ...... then Gorden Banks ..... straight 1-2 (don't reverse)
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Allyuh ever see Yashin play to make that assessment?
Put Casillas and Buffon back in Yashin days and they would have been the most legendary goalkeepers of all time.
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YASHIN ...... then Gorden Banks ..... straight 1-2 (don't reverse)
yuh ratin best Saves or best Goalie
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Just going by the facts .....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lev_Yashin
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The facts can't seem to find Earl 'Spiderman' Carter, so ah guess he wasn't good at all, cause IFFHS never even hear bout him, farless award him. Yet, he was prbably one ah the best and entertaining goalie I see....no facts to back it up doh....so maybe the facts might just be relative and/or opinionated -someone else's
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Iker Casillas....no contest- If he played for a more romanticized team aka Barcelona/Brazil, no one would argue it for a second....
Buffon is also great. He's more polished and possibly technically better than Casillas but yuh Casillas' reflexes are out of this world.....Casillas is the kinda keeper that will keep you in a lop sided game, and be responsible for a team winning games they should have lost- true definition of the last line of defence.
Cech kinda gone through in my opinion- since the head injury he just hasn't been the same.
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Iker Casillas....no contest- If he played for a more romanticized team aka Barcelona/Brazil, no one would argue it for a second....
Buffon is also great. He's more polished and possibly technically better than Casillas but yuh Casillas' reflexes are out of this world.....Casillas is the kinda keeper that will keep you in a lop sided game, and be responsible for a team winning games they should have lost- true definition of the last line of defence.
Cech kinda gone through in my opinion- since the head injury he just hasn't been the same.
I eh know boy kicker....Casillas gets more props than any keeper that has ever played for Barca or Brazil by just about every segment of the press. Few teams on the planet are as romanticized as Real Madrid. They could be bankrupt and fighting off relegation..big players would still want to go there.
Men who picking their best off a highlights hadda be joking. A highlight reel could make Paulo Di Canio look better than Maradona :devil:.
But in all honesty, everyone entitled to their opinion no matter how they form it :beermug:
To me the best keepers in the world are Casillas, Buffon, Friedel...in that order. cech made way too many mistakes this past season. Real high profile errors. If Dida play like Cech last season he woulda get lambasted. Cech reputation and sympathy for his head injury earn him a bligh..
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Iker Casillas....no contest- If he played for a more romanticized team aka Barcelona/Brazil, no one would argue it for a second....
Buffon is also great. He's more polished and possibly technically better than Casillas but yuh Casillas' reflexes are out of this world.....Casillas is the kinda keeper that will keep you in a lop sided game, and be responsible for a team winning games they should have lost- true definition of the last line of defence.
Cech kinda gone through in my opinion- since the head injury he just hasn't been the same.
I eh know boy kicker....Casillas gets more props than any keeper that has ever played for Barca or Brazil by just about every segment of the press. Few teams on the planet are as romanticized as Real Madrid. They could be bankrupt and fighting off relegation..big players would still want to go there.
I was just talking about props in this thread.....I know he's widely considered the best (or one of) in the footballing world....just chookin' some fire in the thread ;D
Madrid is a big prestigious institution- almost every European player's dream, but it appears that they are still commonly perceived as the big bad wolf.....unlike Barcelona who probably aren't that much different as an organization but are painted in a totally different public light (or so it seems)... That's what I mean't by the romanticism comment.
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Pat Jennings.
Talk done
Ron La forest go like dis..as he once scored a hattrick against him .
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two men virtually carried argentina to a WC final in 1990 ...one was Maradona the other was the goalkeeper Sergio Goycochea ...the penalty shot stopper. ...( it was just get us to the penalty shootout and we win ) man even get the german specialist penalty kicker to doubt himself and give the task to another in ah World cup final ... such was the fear he instilled in seasoned professionals at the highest level of the geme...however I believe is not a best performance we looking for but a sustained one ...in that case Gordon banks gets my vote.
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...and after Yashin is Banks den ah placing 'De Black Panther", All yuh know who dat is. juss in case you in de dark dais big Lincoln Phillips.
Oh lard oww Lincoln dah man uses to leap from one end ah de goal to the next b4 you blink Carter? Ha!HA! Loooooouuuuudddd HA HA HA !!!
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And now, my legendary picks:
1. Yashin
2. Jean Marie Paff (real big time 'keeper)
3. Peter Shilton
4. Pat Jennings
5. Dasayev
6. Shumacher
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wha happen to schmiechel?
dat italian keep Z sumthing from world cup 90 Zenga?
pat jennings
peter shilton
gordon banks
schumacher
but seriously to figure out the best keeper look at the;
game winning saves to game/points droppin saves
positioning ability to make it it look so easy they are underrated (david seaman)
athleticism vs acrobatics (mexico keeper who was like 5'6)
technical soundness vs unorthodox arrpoach
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this forum is called socawarriors.net yet everytime some post a question you was the best foward best defender and now best goal keeper men always start thinking foreign players what happen to we locals To me the best goalkeeper I have even seen not what people tell me is Earl spiderman carter, he had good positional sense, he althletic had good command of the defense and knew how to start the offense with acurate distribution. where is coops I need his input on this one and yes Grande lev yashin was a boss I think he saved with russia he kept his team in the game but i rate him second to spiderman, and no people spiderman is not my famaily personelly I taught was a show off but he was good goal keeper, kelvin barclay was also great
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this forum is called socawarriors.net yet everytime some post a question you was the best foward best defender and now best goal keeper men always start thinking foreign players what happen to we locals
::)
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German goalkeeper arrested after conceding 43 goals in one game
By Ryan Bailey,FC Yahoo
Sometimes, a performance on the field is so bad that it’s criminal. That may quite literally be the case for a goalkeeper in the lower leagues of Germany.
In a recent league game, SV Vonderort broke an undesirable record when it lost 43-0 to rival PSV Oberhausen.
According to German newspaper Express, SV Vonderort was down 35-0 at halftime – that must have been a fun team talk in the interval! – and at one point it was only able to field eight players. PSV Oberhausen was so embarrassed by its lead that it made the sporting gesture of removing three of its own players to even up the numbers.
After conceding a goal nearly every two minutes, goalkeeper Marco Kwiotek may have wanted to completely forget about the performance.
However, five days later at a training session, two police cars arrived at Vonderort’s training ground in Bottrop (around 30 miles west of Dortmund). The 25-year-old keeper was escorted from the training field by armed officers and brought to the local police station for questioning.
The circumstances of the police inquiry are unclear and Kwiotek has since failed to answer his phone.
Club managing director Christian Schröer told Express that he hopes the shot stopper will be available for selection in Vonderort’s next game. Hopefully, he won’t have to reach into the net quite so often in that one.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsuDE6gWgAADcEg.jpg)
Kwiotek called out to players as he was led from pitch by cops at the club’s base in Bottrop, western Germany: “They just want to clear some things up.”
He has not been seen since and police have refused to comment on why he was taken into custody.
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