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Archived Boards => 2006 World Cup - Germany => Topic started by: palos on June 18, 2006, 02:05:50 PM
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Source: Soccernet.com
Beenhakker set to drop in-form Hislop
ROTENBURG, Germany, June 18 (Reuters) - Kelvin Jack looks set to start in goal for Trinidad & Tobago against Paraguay on Tuesday, with Shaka Hislop dropping to the bench, sources within the camp said on Sunday.
Jack was picked ahead of Hislop for his country's opening Group B game against Sweden, but injured himself in the warm-up and was replaced by the West Ham keeper.
A man-of-the-match performance by Hislop in the scoreless draw against the Swedes meant he kept his place between the posts for the 2-0 defeat to England. But Trinidad coach, Leo Beenhakker is set to return to his original number one.
'Leo likes Kelvin a lot and would probably like to give him a run out in the tournament,' a source told Reuters.
Victory for the Caribbean country over Paraguay combined with a win for England over Sweden, could earn Trinidad a place in the second round at their first ever finals, but only if their goal difference is better than the Scandinavians.
'The problem is that nobody outside has seen what form Kelvin is in, only Leo knows that. But if he is sharp, then he will probably play,' another source said.
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Aye...
I would much prefer if you leave Shaka alone...
Kelvin don't have to get a sweat...
But then again..Shaka will save against Ecuador ;D
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Aye...
I would much prefer if you leave Shaka alone...
Kelvin don't have to get a sweat...
But then again..Shaka will save against Ecuador ;D
Beenie been playin psyhcological games whole tournament.
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i hope so cause to bench shaka will be a mistake
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wow, bench Shaka?? I can understand given jack a sweat for de tournament, but maybe if we 3-0 up with 15 mins left. :-\
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nah, 5-0 up with 5 minutes
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Why now ??
Ah know all dey games important, but this one is REAL important. Why put Jack (meh boy eh) dey when Shaka doing he stuff already ?
Ah getting ah headache thinking bout Tuesday already....
Somebody say put Jack in for a little sweat in dey 89th minute...I AGREE
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only beenhakker knows wat he is doin,have faith in de man,1 draw and 2 nil loss(to de mighty english).not too bad.
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i rather jack dan clayton
any other words on the line up??
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Aye...
I would much prefer if you leave Shaka alone...
Kelvin don't have to get a sweat...
But then again..Shaka will save against Ecuador ;D
Beenie been playin psyhcological games whole tournament.
lol i like how u post this thread and then say beenie been playing psycological games whole tournament. are you ah willing conduit?
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lol i like how u post this thread and then say beenie been playing psycological games whole tournament. are you ah willing conduit?
I eh know wha dat mean...but I is simply palos. A trinbagonian.
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lol i like how u post this thread and then say beenie been playing psycological games whole tournament. are you ah willing conduit?
I eh know wha dat mean...but I is simply palos. A trinbagonian.
yeah boss :beermug:
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Shaka have to save unless injured.Beenie balls ain't so big.Shaka get over de nerves after two big games.
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nah, 5-0 up with 5 minutes
Spoken like a man who see plenty shit shot beat Jack..
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All you all come on you know Shaka has not much spring in his legs like younger Jack. You all have short term memory and forgot which goalie got us to the world cup in the first place.
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Aye...
I would much prefer if you leave Shaka alone...
Kelvin don't have to get a sweat...
But then again..Shaka will save against Ecuador ;D
u mean Germany
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I think if Jack was in goal he would have stop both shots from Crouch and Gerard. but in all honesty he would have let in some other stuff. I would take my chances with Shaka any day. The way the team playing now. If something not break don't fix it. Jack lost he spot....that's the game.
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we doh know what Jack wouldah do...cause he eh play
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I can't believe that is a reliable story but you have to keep Shaka unless he lose form or get injured and neither has yet occurred.
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palos always bring reliable sources
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Well, the old saying is true. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! We need to stay the course, but attack more.
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I have to say I dont agree with this one, with Shaka doing as good as he did you just dont sub him thats just stupid.
Shaka is in the top 4 for the most saves as well: http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/stats/index.html
Goalkeeper - Individual Saves
Player SV
KINGSON Richard (GHA) 14
BOBADILLA Aldo (PAR) 13
HISLOP Shaka (TRI) 12
JOAO RICARDO (ANG) 11
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I've studied him. Although he is a great goalkeeper, Hislop has one weakness which is lethal.
When shots are fired towards him from within or out of the area, to keep the ball out, he usually (many many times) punches the ball inwards towards the attacking players, giving them a chance of winning an attacking rebound. This might be the reason Beenehaker wants to make such a change at such a time to mix up Paraguays cards. I think he knows what he's doing.
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While that may be true TSB .Jack is coming off being injured and he may not be strong enough to repel any goals from a determined Paraguay side. Shaka has really shone in this tournament and has proved himself a strong goalie. Does Beenhaaker think this will be our last game in the tournament and thinks by playing jack he will at least have a game in this WC campaign? If he wanted to win i'm sure he would have just pick Hislop.
Anyhow we go see if Jack can go beyond what Shaka done in this WC.
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I agree with you. Shaka did a great job in the last 2 games. Lets wait and see what happens. I wasn't suggesting that Jack is better. I don't believe he is.
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Shaka should start man, i hope they stick with him.
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nah, 5-0 up with 5 minutes
Allyuh goo oui :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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i ahve studied jack and he is weak on corners, and other set plays,he does not set his wall properly against free kicks either,suspect on one on one break aways as well,what he has is good shoot stopping ability
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I have to say I dont agree with this one, with Shaka doing as good as he did you just dont sub him thats just stupid.
Shaka is in the top 4 for the most saves as well: http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/stats/index.html
Goalkeeper - Individual Saves
Player SV
KINGSON Richard (GHA) 14
BOBADILLA Aldo (PAR) 13
HISLOP Shaka (TRI) 12
JOAO RICARDO (ANG) 11
I see the same FIFA source has Dwight as the top tackler: http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/player/60183_YORKE_Dwight.html
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punches the ball inwards towards the attacking players, giving them a chance of winning an attacking rebound
Interesting. That's a vintage Kelvin Jack weakness. Just look at the last two away qualification games against Mexico and the USA. In those games, all goals scored against Kelvin Jack were due to rebound opportunities that he created.
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I actually agree with Beenhakker on bringing in Jack. In the England and Sweden games Shaka used his experience agianst European style of plays with long balls and crosses and his positioning was excellent. However Jack is a much better shotstopper at this stage in his career and though he is weak at crosses, I dont expect Paraguay to exploit this as this is not their style and they will already be at a height disadvantage with tallest and dog. Paraguay is probably gonna knock direct ball and shot just like Colombia in the Gold Cup remember and Jack put in a fine performance. I love Shaka to death and he is one of my favourite players but he hadda step aside for Jack
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I would keep Shaka for this match given the good form that he is in. Then again I have faith in Beenhakker in that he knows what he is doing.
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look where the article come from... soccernet.com and not from a proper trini source where all our major news would come from so until we get some news of that kinda from a locally based source shaka keeping... i aint going with jack when we already have shaka fit and playing extremely well... u dont see shaka making mistakes every game like jack... especially with giving away the ball with clearances... it would be good yet for jack to get some of the added experience of the WC since next campaign he most likely would be our #1 keeper... but i trust beenie... whatever his decision may be it is what is best for the team
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nah, 5-0 up with 5 minutes
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:...well riteeee, alyuh is rhel jones up in here... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :beermug:
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Point is Shaka did what Jack did before....
Made the most of the opportunity when it was presented to him.
This is WC, not no charity sweat.
The amount of bullet and save Shaka make more than qualifies him for the job between the post.
Remember Jack was injured.......he simply lost his place at a bad time.
Lastly If you compare jack to Shaka in all aspects of goalkeeping he comes second...Communication, Crosses, Command of area, throws, kicking, , movement off the line, Clean takes, reading of the game etc.
He is only better at shot stopping....and Shaka has shown us in the past two games he is more than adequate.
Jack also punches the ball directly to the opposition or gives away needless corners. He very rarely makes a clean catch or save.
Leave Shaka in the post....Besides is only Classic he does collect.
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Point is Shaka did what Jack did before....
Made the most of the opportunity when it was presented to him.
This is WC, not no charity sweat.
The amount of bullet and save Shaka make more than qualifies him for the job between the post.
Remember Jack was injured.......he simply lost his place at a bad time.
Lastly If you compare jack to Shaka in all aspects of goalkeeping he comes second...Communication, Crosses, Command of area, throws, kicking, , movement off the line, Clean takes, reading of the game etc.
He is only better at shot stopping....and Shaka has shown us in the past two games he is more than adequate.
Jack also punches the ball directly to the opposition or gives away needless corners. He very rarely makes a clean catch or save.
Leave Shaka in the post....Besides is only Classic he does collect.
well said man but at the end beenie is de coach. and he liek jack for what ever reason. so no matter who inde posts let hope no mistakes and a godo game
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if I was Bennie....i would put Jack in (ah be scared no ass but) if he only let ah ball pass him in 3 minutes OUT
Shaka where ya...
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Men really good yes..........hmmm.