Our biggest challenges during this world cup was getting into an attacking mode, and secondly the team only has one quality striker - Stern John.
All of the other teams knew this and so they shut down our lone striker and we couldn't score a single goal. Carlos, Yorke, Dwight, Birchall, Glenn, and Latapy all had clear shots on goal and none scored - some even failed to trouble the goal keeper. I really think that the shot that Yorke had in this last game would have hit the back of the net if Stern had taken it, but again Paraguay like everyone else relentlessly crowded Stern and rendered him ineffective.
I really hope that we start developing new strikers so that no team could pull off what they did to us in this world cup again. Right now, I think that Glenn is looking very good, but besides him we have nobody.
Not a worry though, because there will definitey be new talent coming up especially after our excellent showing in this tournament.My name is 1989 and I am a Soca Warrior!
r u some ah de talent coming up??/ lord help us if u play like u reason
Our biggest challenges during this world cup was getting into an attacking mode, and secondly the team only has one quality striker - Stern John.
All of the other teams knew this and so they shut down our lone striker and we couldn't score a single goal. Carlos, Yorke, Dwight, Birchall, Glenn, and Latapy all had clear shots on goal and none scored - some even failed to trouble the goal keeper. I really think that the shot that Yorke had in this last game would have hit the back of the net if Stern had taken it, but again Paraguay like everyone else relentlessly crowded Stern and rendered him ineffective.
I really hope that we start developing new strikers so that no team could pull off what they did to us in this world cup again. Right now, I think that Glenn is looking very good, but besides him we have nobody.
Not a worry though, because there will definitey be new talent coming up especially after our excellent showing in this tournament.My name is 1989 and I am a Soca Warrior!
u obviously ddont know shit bout football nah...and also ent see our game against Paraguay!
U didnt see how much attacks we put forward???
u gots to be joking!
Our only problem u could say is converting those attacks into goals...we just needed the strikers to put the ball in the back of the net....full stop
Our biggest challenges during this world cup was getting into an attacking mode, and secondly the team only has one quality striker - Stern John.
All of the other teams knew this and so they shut down our lone striker and we couldn't score a single goal. Carlos, Yorke, Dwight, Birchall, Glenn, and Latapy all had clear shots on goal and none scored - some even failed to trouble the goal keeper. I really think that the shot that Yorke had in this last game would have hit the back of the net if Stern had taken it, but again Paraguay like everyone else relentlessly crowded Stern and rendered him ineffective.
I really hope that we start developing new strikers so that no team could pull off what they did to us in this world cup again. Right now, I think that Glenn is looking very good, but besides him we have nobody.
Not a worry though, because there will definitey be new talent coming up especially after our excellent showing in this tournament.My name is 1989 and I am a Soca Warrior!
u obviously ddont know shit bout football nah...and also ent see our game against Paraguay!
U didnt see how much attacks we put forward???
u gots to be joking!
Our only problem u could say is converting those attacks into goals...we just needed the strikers to put the ball in the back of the net....full stop
WTD just be careful with your words... >:(
I am commenting on our overall performance. Everyone has agreed that we were primarily defensive in our playing, just read a few articles on FIFA. Paraguay was different - and it was different because it was do or die at that time. The reality is, attacking wins games. You don't normally score by defending.
But I'm not going to get off on some tangent that I never intended. I support the team 100% and I would like to see them win as many games as they can.
Our biggest challenges during this world cup was getting into an attacking mode, and secondly the team only has one quality striker - Stern John.
All of the other teams knew this and so they shut down our lone striker and we couldn't score a single goal. Carlos, Yorke, Dwight, Birchall, Glenn, and Latapy all had clear shots on goal and none scored - some even failed to trouble the goal keeper. I really think that the shot that Yorke had in this last game would have hit the back of the net if Stern had taken it, but again Paraguay like everyone else relentlessly crowded Stern and rendered him ineffective.
I really hope that we start developing new strikers so that no team could pull off what they did to us in this world cup again. Right now, I think that Glenn is looking very good, but besides him we have nobody.
Not a worry though, because there will definitey be new talent coming up especially after our excellent showing in this tournament.My name is 1989 and I am a Soca Warrior!
u obviously ddont know shit bout football nah...and also ent see our game against Paraguay!
U didnt see how much attacks we put forward???
u gots to be joking!
Our only problem u could say is converting those attacks into goals...we just needed the strikers to put the ball in the back of the net....full stop
WTD just be careful with your words... >:(
I am commenting on our overall performance. Everyone has agreed that we were primarily defensive in our playing, just read a few articles on FIFA. Paraguay was different - and it was different because it was do or die at that time. The reality is, attacking wins games. You don't normally score by defending.
But I'm not going to get off on some tangent that I never intended. I support the team 100% and I would like to see them win as many games as they can.
You ent see the second half?? we put rell atacks forward
obviously there were times when we had to defend! ::)
After that performance..i am convinced that we are just as strong on the attack as we are in defence!
the only problem is finishing..thaz where stern comes in ... :-\
1989 yuh have no brain awat?
like yuh eh see Jones or Glen play... are you so completely oblivious to the amount of talent we have in the two... including also Collin Samuels AND Jason Scotland...
stewpssssssssssssssss how f**kin one dimensional can you get man.
We had no problem transitioning from midfield to the forward line. But come on people!!! How could your main striker not have one meaningful shot in de World Cup in three games. Everybody else in the midfield and forward line got at least one shot. That is terrible!!!
Maybe Beenie wanted de man to hold up de ball but ....Jeeezzz an ages.... de man is de top scorer for dis country and he cyar make de opposing keeper make one save. Poor positioning, lack of talent, who knows....but I have heard from friends and family in England and they say Stern is way too lazy for an international striker at this level. Cornell have the skills and speed required. No World Cup team will allow a striker to just stand up in the box and wait for ball to come to him....Yuh have to run at defenders and find space!!!!
I am commenting on our overall performance. Everyone has agreed that we were primarily defensive in our playing, just read a few articles on FIFA. Paraguay was different - and it was different because it was do or die at that time. The reality is, attacking wins games. You don't normally score by defending.
We had no problem transitioning from midfield to the forward line. But come on people!!! How could your main striker not have one meaningful shot in de World Cup in three games. Everybody else in the midfield and forward line got at least one shot. That is terrible!!!
Maybe Beenie wanted de man to hold up de ball but ....Jeeezzz an ages.... de man is de top scorer for dis country and he cyar make de opposing keeper make one save. Poor positioning, lack of talent, who knows....but I have heard from friends and family in England and they say Stern is way too lazy for an international striker at this level. Cornell have the skills and speed required. No World Cup team will allow a striker to just stand up in the box and wait for ball to come to him....Yuh have to run at defenders and find space!!!!
Like you eh see Terry clearing Sterns header off the line,or de header he miss from de corner or de pass he give Glenn to hit de cross bar ...Stern did many other things,he held the line well and brought the midfield into play,all de time being properly roughed up by some ah de best defenders in de world....'We had no problem transitioning from midfield to the foward line' ..are you serious ? what games were you watching ? when Stern distrubutes that ball to the midfield he cyar get it back, doh blame him for that.De only shot that hit de woodwork, is Stern give de pass,how come he eh get one ah dem passes from anyone.l Yuh talking bout 'yuh have to run at defenders and find space'...it easy for yuh to sit down behind yuh computer ah type dat ,buh go out on the pitch and do it nah, all yuh cyar even make de bench far less geh ah invitation tuh practice wid ah small goal side, buh you know exactly what TnT leading goal scorer shudda do in de WC tuh geh shots at goals....Until somebody on the TnT team show dey cud score like Stern(and for anybodys information 12 goals in de concacaf wasn't 10years ago it was just de odda day, for we to qualify) he is still we best goal scoring striker in TnT .
Paps! What is the deal with you and Stern John? No one is saying that he's not good or he can't play he was not doing a good job which should have resulted to him sitting on the bench. And you start talking about who could da or can't play small goal crap! You are starting to get on my nerves! Like Stern John is yuh man or what... stop riding his dick! He was a no show in the worldcup and that is that.Quote
wehitis ....HYMC BOY.....it hah no deal wid Stern and me ...me eh even know him, buh de sme way people voicing dey opinion bout Latas or Glenn or who ever,I hah de same right to voice mine and becuz ah dat I getting on yuh nerves ..or ' riding his dick' you vex becuz I,just like others recognize Stern contribution to this team getting to de WC..and de same way you eh want to hear me talk bout Stern is de same wey I eh want to hear your BULLSHIT ....BITCH....
p.s since yuh inquiring 1. Stern eh meh man and 2.yuh sound like ah hurt jealous gyul when yuh tell meh ..''stop riding his dick''
Paps! What is the deal with you and Stern John? No one is saying that he's not good or he can't play he was not doing a good job which should have resulted to him sitting on the bench. And you start talking about who could da or can't play small goal crap! You are starting to get on my nerves! Like Stern John is yuh man or what... stop riding his dick! He was a no show in the worldcup and that is that.Quote
wehitis ....HYMC BOY.....it hah no deal wid Stern and me ...me eh even know him, buh de sme way people voicing dey opinion bout Latas or Glenn or who ever,I hah de same right to voice mine and becuz ah dat I getting on yuh nerves ..or ' riding his dick' you vex becuz I,just like others recognize Stern contribution to this team getting to de WC..and de same way you eh want to hear me talk bout Stern is de same wey I eh want to hear your BULLSHIT ....BITCH....
p.s since yuh inquiring 1. Stern eh meh man and 2.yuh sound like ah hurt jealous gyul when yuh tell meh ..''stop riding his dick''
So you're actually are a dick riding dude which makes you a fag right! So sad! No wonder why you're flaming like that… you’re a buller! ;D
Paps! What is the deal with you and Stern John? No one is saying that he's not good or he can't play he was not doing a good job which should have resulted to him sitting on the bench. And you start talking about who could da or can't play small goal crap! You are starting to get on my nerves! Like Stern John is yuh man or what... stop riding his dick! He was a no show in the worldcup and that is that.Quote
wehitis ....HYMC BOY.....it hah no deal wid Stern and me ...me eh even know him, buh de sme way people voicing dey opinion bout Latas or Glenn or who ever,I hah de same right to voice mine and becuz ah dat I getting on yuh nerves ..or ' riding his dick' you vex becuz I,just like others recognize Stern contribution to this team getting to de WC..and de same way you eh want to hear me talk bout Stern is de same wey I eh want to hear your BULLSHIT ....BITCH....
p.s since yuh inquiring 1. Stern eh meh man and 2.yuh sound like ah hurt jealous gyul when yuh tell meh ..''stop riding his dick''
So you're actually are a dick riding dude which makes you a fag right! So sad! No wonder why you're flaming like that… you’re a buller! ;D
How old are you bitch 10,11 15 at the most,you sound like ah little asshole ,why yuh eh crawl back into yuh hole and continue playing wid yuh self.....if yuh is ah dunce bout football yuh on de wrong site ...sound like you looking for date and putting yuh profile out dey...is you wey bring up de mako-mey-man talk so it hah to be on yuh mind ...good try buh sorry me eh in dat take yuh man by yuh self yuh $#@%ING PILLOW BITER.
We had no problem transitioning from midfield to the forward line. But come on people!!! How could your main striker not have one meaningful shot in de World Cup in three games. Everybody else in the midfield and forward line got at least one shot. That is terrible!!!
Maybe Beenie wanted de man to hold up de ball but ....Jeeezzz an ages.... de man is de top scorer for dis country and he cyar make de opposing keeper make one save. Poor positioning, lack of talent, who knows....but I have heard from friends and family in England and they say Stern is way too lazy for an international striker at this level. Cornell have the skills and speed required. No World Cup team will allow a striker to just stand up in the box and wait for ball to come to him....Yuh have to run at defenders and find space!!!!
Like you eh see Terry clearing Sterns header off the line,or de header he miss from de corner or de pass he give Glenn to hit de cross bar ...Stern did many other things,he held the line well and brought the midfield into play,all de time being properly roughed up by some ah de best defenders in de world....'We had no problem transitioning from midfield to the foward line' ..are you serious ? what games were you watching ? when Stern distrubutes that ball to the midfield he cyar get it back, doh blame him for that.De only shot that hit de woodwork, is Stern give de pass,how come he eh get one ah dem passes from anyone.l Yuh talking bout 'yuh have to run at defenders and find space'...it easy for yuh to sit down behind yuh computer ah type dat ,buh go out on the pitch and do it nah, all yuh cyar even make de bench far less geh ah invitation tuh practice wid ah small goal side, buh you know exactly what TnT leading goal scorer shudda do in de WC tuh geh shots at goals....Until somebody on the TnT team show dey cud score like Stern(and for anybodys information 12 goals in de concacaf wasn't 10years ago it was just de odda day, for we to qualify) he is still we best goal scoring striker in TnT .
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:We had no problem transitioning from midfield to the forward line. But come on people!!! How could your main striker not have one meaningful shot in de World Cup in three games. Everybody else in the midfield and forward line got at least one shot. That is terrible!!!
Maybe Beenie wanted de man to hold up de ball but ....Jeeezzz an ages.... de man is de top scorer for dis country and he cyar make de opposing keeper make one save. Poor positioning, lack of talent, who knows....but I have heard from friends and family in England and they say Stern is way too lazy for an international striker at this level. Cornell have the skills and speed required. No World Cup team will allow a striker to just stand up in the box and wait for ball to come to him....Yuh have to run at defenders and find space!!!!
Like you eh see Terry clearing Sterns header off the line,or de header he miss from de corner or de pass he give Glenn to hit de cross bar ...Stern did many other things,he held the line well and brought the midfield into play,all de time being properly roughed up by some ah de best defenders in de world....'We had no problem transitioning from midfield to the foward line' ..are you serious ? what games were you watching ? when Stern distrubutes that ball to the midfield he cyar get it back, doh blame him for that.De only shot that hit de woodwork, is Stern give de pass,how come he eh get one ah dem passes from anyone.l Yuh talking bout 'yuh have to run at defenders and find space'...it easy for yuh to sit down behind yuh computer ah type dat ,buh go out on the pitch and do it nah, all yuh cyar even make de bench far less geh ah invitation tuh practice wid ah small goal side, buh you know exactly what TnT leading goal scorer shudda do in de WC tuh geh shots at goals....Until somebody on the TnT team show dey cud score like Stern(and for anybodys information 12 goals in de concacaf wasn't 10years ago it was just de odda day, for we to qualify) he is still we best goal scoring striker in TnT .
Paps! What is the deal with you and Stern John? No one is saying that he's not good or he can't play he was not doing a good job which should have resulted to him sitting on the bench. And you start talking about who could da or can't play small goal crap! You are starting to get on my nerves! Like Stern John is yuh man or what... stop riding his dick! He was a no show in the worldcup and that is that.
hear nah man if Stern 'the statue' John woulda learn to run off the ball and stop running down the middle like an idiot he might have gotten more chances, how come other players when they advance or other strikers were able to get quality shots on goals and not him. The man have to learn to play to top international standards.
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Like you eh see Terry clearing Sterns header off the line,or de header he miss from de corner or de pass he give Glenn to hit de cross bar ...Stern did many other things,he held the line well and brought the midfield into play,all de time being properly roughed up by some ah de best defenders in de world....'We had no problem transitioning from midfield to the foward line' ..are you serious ? what games were you watching ? when Stern distrubutes that ball to the midfield he cyar get it back, doh blame him for that.De only shot that hit de woodwork, is Stern give de pass,how come he eh get one ah dem passes from anyone.l Yuh talking bout 'yuh have to run at defenders and find space'...it easy for yuh to sit down behind yuh computer ah type dat ,buh go out on the pitch and do it nah, all yuh cyar even make de bench far less geh ah invitation tuh practice wid ah small goal side, buh you know exactly what TnT leading goal scorer shudda do in de WC tuh geh shots at goals....Until somebody on the TnT team show dey cud score like Stern(and for anybodys information 12 goals in de concacaf wasn't 10years ago it was just de odda day, for we to qualify) he is still we best goal scoring striker in TnT .Quote
Boss!!! What HOT SH#T you talkin dread.....De bottom line is yuh main striker is suppose to get shots at goal...That is his main purpose. Even if Beenie want de man to hold up de ball sometimes, as the pointman for scoring goals yuh have to take shots at some point. Yuh see the mess Ronaldo playin right now...but yet still he still taking shots even if dey eh score. That goal Terry clear off de line was a BUBBLED header, (I watch it over about 3 times) if Stern had connected to it properly it would have scored (country's top scorer....put head on ball....GOAL). I agree with yuh though.... I cyar make de bench.....and how does dat change de fact that he EH TAKE NO SHOTS!!!! I thankful to de man for scoring de goals in CONCACAF qualifying but what I am saying is "AT WORLD CUP LEVEL YUH CANNOT STAND UP WHOLE GAME AND EXPECT QUALITY TEAMS TO LET YUH SHOOT AT DE GOAL. Yuh sometimes have to create your own chances.
MOVEMENT!!!MOVEMENT!!!MOVEMENT. If dey was having problems finding LAZY MAN dey should have brought Latas into de mix alot earlier to make the final pass!!!Quote
Well Boss I give you my reasons/opinion for Stern not getting many shots on goal and you say I talking 'HOT SHIT'...so you know better right you know what he was surppose to do,becuz it look easy from wey you see it ...right? you is dis expert to know I talking shit and you right.Yuh eh see how doetish yuh is ..if yuh want to ignore what ah point why Stern did not any set ah shots at goal,that's fine ,buh doe tell me ah talking 'HOT SHIT' BECUZ YOU TINK YOU IS AH EXPERT AND KNOW BETTER becuz de bullshit you just post ONLY DESCRIBE YUH BOWEL MOVEMENT !!!MOVEMENT!!!MOVEMENT!!!
p.s If yuh eh like Stern John say so buh until yuh cud do better for TnT ,yuh only bumpin.
Everybody is a 4 King coach....
You can argue all you want, he strolled around not doing very much. He kept complaining to the ref the defender jumping on him, how un-smart is he? If the defender goes straight up then he can come down almost anywhere. Now to get the foul you have to jump to.
The only way to fixa problem is to first admit there is a problem.
Stern is mih boy and I can say that I was a bit disappointed about his performance in the WC.
The general attacking plan seemed get the ball to Stern (from edwards, yorke or theo), let him hold it up (most often back to goal), the time the midfield (yorke, birch, whitley, samuel) get into position to blast or to play a one two with him.
That said, I notice something. Stern almost NEVER get a free ball for the whole tournament. He had men all over his back on almost every single play. Even his two best chances, England defenders was breathing down he neck at every occassion. It would sem that the WC teams had more respect for Stern than half of this board becaus they didn't just stand up and let him shoot (you know the man who does miss sitter after sitter after sitter!)
That said, something else i noticed in the paraguay game that nobody seem to bring up is how fast we revert to that BSC long ball kick and rush over the top as soon as we take the goal. I was screaming at men in the defensive midfield to put the fing ball down on the ground. 3/4 of the time when we put the ball down we would get it back immediately if PAraguay ever managed to intecept it.
I don't believe that that systematic long ball over the top was Beenie idea and for that matter, it doesn't fit Stern game. It look like the players panic and got desperate for long stretches,, because when they came out of the dressing room, they put the ball back down. It boiled down to a lack of patience when the buildups were broken up too frequently by the PAra defensive/mid. The long ball is great for counterattacks because it gets the ball up the field fast, but in a game where we're supposed to bring the attack to the other team, thats not what we needed to do...
I think for stern to be more effective he would have had to fall back way too deep into mf but for that you need a second striker with speed...and you need to have the ball. We saw what happened with Glenn on the counter against Sweden and then it might have worked if Glenn didn't get injured against Para.
From what I saw of Kenwyne, that just wouldn't have worked with him, the only other man to do that would have been a Samuel.
Stern is neither a speed merchant nor a dribbler. In open play his strength lies in his doggedness and determination because he seems to have lost the Stern Turn irremediably. It basically means that he either has to receive the ball perfectly over the top or that he has to drop back and try to shoot like the one he buss from outside the box against the Mexico keeper on the break. His other option is to provide screens for his teammates attack, which he did all tournament. the problem is that there weren't that many attacks...
Where he really disappointed imo was on set pieces, but I don't think the quality of the corners and free kicks were good enough (for that matter, i would like to know why me mum wasn't our designated set piece taker) to justify railing on him for not scoring given the defensive cover he had all tournament
Stern is mih boy and I can say that I was a bit disappointed about his performance in the WC.this is a damn good post... alot of people wouldn't see this tho....
The general attacking plan seemed get the ball to Stern (from edwards, yorke or theo), let him hold it up (most often back to goal), the time the midfield (yorke, birch, whitley, samuel) get into position to blast or to play a one two with him.
That said, I notice something. Stern almost NEVER get a free ball for the whole tournament. He had men all over his back on almost every single play. Even his two best chances, England defenders was breathing down he neck at every occassion. It would sem that the WC teams had more respect for Stern than half of this board becaus they didn't just stand up and let him shoot (you know the man who does miss sitter after sitter after sitter!)
That said, something else i noticed in the paraguay game that nobody seem to bring up is how fast we revert to that BSC long ball kick and rush over the top as soon as we take the goal. I was screaming at men in the defensive midfield to put the fing ball down on the ground. 3/4 of the time when we put the ball down we would get it back immediately if PAraguay ever managed to intecept it.
I don't believe that that systematic long ball over the top was Beenie idea and for that matter, it doesn't fit Stern game. It look like the players panic and got desperate for long stretches,, because when they came out of the dressing room, they put the ball back down. It boiled down to a lack of patience when the buildups were broken up too frequently by the PAra defensive/mid. The long ball is great for counterattacks because it gets the ball up the field fast, but in a game where we're supposed to bring the attack to the other team, thats not what we needed to do...
I think for stern to be more effective he would have had to fall back way too deep into mf but for that you need a second striker with speed...and you need to have the ball. We saw what happened with Glenn on the counter against Sweden and then it might have worked if Glenn didn't get injured against Para.
From what I saw of Kenwyne, that just wouldn't have worked with him, the only other man to do that would have been a Samuel.
Stern is neither a speed merchant nor a dribbler. In open play his strength lies in his doggedness and determination because he seems to have lost the Stern Turn irremediably. It basically means that he either has to receive the ball perfectly over the top or that he has to drop back and try to shoot like the one he buss from outside the box against the Mexico keeper on the break. His other option is to provide screens for his teammates attack, which he did all tournament. the problem is that there weren't that many attacks...
Where he really disappointed imo was on set pieces, but I don't think the quality of the corners and free kicks were good enough (for that matter, i would like to know why me mum wasn't our designated set piece taker) to justify railing on him for not scoring given the defensive cover he had all tournament
''think that Glenn is looking very good, but besides him we have nobody''
but tell me have you ever seen Kenwyne Jones, Jason Scotland or Collin Samuel play!?
stewps... imps we have plenty strikers with lots of talent other than Stern John... infact I think almost all of our strikers down to Anthony Wolfe might not be as polished as Stern but have much more talent than he ever did.
Even fellahs like Scott Sealy will be continueing to develope in the next four years so im not worried atol...
but dont come with this setta f**kery that other than John and Glenn we doh have no quality strikers... you need to go to the Gols galore section and watch all de Kenwyne Jones goals... then, tell me if deman is not a quality striker...
The problem with the team is not quality striker its the lack of an attacking chemistry between our attacking midfeild players and the forwards... Look at Real Madrid... chok full of talented players and yet they cah score... 1989 sometimes its not all about the quality... i may look like a simple equation but its not.... like Beenie said himself... ''in football 1+1 doesnt always =2''
I already said all that I had to say on the Stern topic, since when...Mexico in Mexico..ah think it was....and man boff meh and show meh stats, show meh Guat. show meh Mexico, show lack of proper service to Stern....everything, improve for the WC...Organization, Team, all the players, barring the injuries of course.....everything, except service to Stern, only Latapy could do that and he was ready...the type of plan most of usl suspected BeenE would play, he did..I spelled out why Stern would be less than effective if BeenE used such ah system, that we guessin he may have to use, and unfortunately, due to circumstances he did...and yet he still played Stern, and with all the improvements we saw...Stern still no service , and de only person Stern willin to give it for is Latas....nah, ah doh blame Stern, ah doh blame the servers, who managed to do fairly well for the country, for Glen, for Jones, for each other, (they reepresent well didn't they ?)...nah ah pulling up BeenE not for what he did at the world cup, situation played out and he had to make the tuff decisions, and ah fine he did ah hell of ah job dey...buh if he did listen to his real support staff - ah tink dah mighta been Touches an meyself -Stern would have been ready for the role he is most suited for given the pace and energy of our other forwards, who may have had the opposition defense well prepped (tired) and ready for Stern coming off the bench to string ppl up.....buh he didn't listen...funny ting doh dah is wha ah like bout BeenE, he doh listen to nobody, he does wha he feel is best...so I go hold that, and say well done to all still...cause now we will never know...we could talk it till we dead..and nuthen will change...
So job well done everybody...enjoy the Lime tomorro