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Sports => Football => Topic started by: PEG on June 25, 2006, 04:22:17 PM
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People on this board is real kicks oui. I love it. Man see evans play a friendly against Grenada (flickin Grenada) and man insisting that we must make room for him on the squad. Cornell should stay injured, they should sacrifice WOlfe etc. This was the same evans that was tried by coach after national coach and found wanting. Fools gold you call that. Now man begrudging him he million. By the way, does anybody still favor Jack over Shaka? I say these things so that we could keep our views in perspective and that we shouldn't take ourselves too seriously. Sports at the highest level is about results and Beenie's record would show that when he took over we had 1 pt. in qualifying. The rest is history. All those who are armchair critics of the mn should bear this in mind,
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People on this board is real kicks oui. I love it. Man see evans play a friendly against Grenada (flickin Grenada) and man insisting that we must make room for him on the squad. Cornell should stay injured, they should sacrifice WOlfe etc. This was the same evans that was tried by coach after national coach and found wanting. Fools gold you call that. Now man begrudging him he million. By the way, does anybody still favor Jack over Shaka? I say these things so that we could keep our views in perspective and that we shouldn't take ourselves too seriously. Sports at the highest level is about results and Beenie's record would show that when he took over we had 1 pt. in qualifying. The rest is history. All those who are armchair critics of the mn should bear this in mind,
Well which one is it PEG? You say that sports at the highest evel is about results, and that we should take out views in perspective and not take ourselves too seriously.
Yet it is plainly clear that the same Beenie prefers Jack over Shaka.
So what exactly is your point?
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My point is simple. I have always preferred Shaka over Jack but realize that there is very little to choose between the 2 at this point of their careers so I would trust the coach's judgement. In effect, it is debatable. That was to illustrate that IMHO some of the criticisms of BEenie were totally ill-informed. Like Latapy was underutilised. I think Latapy would have served no purpose in the first 2 games as he has neither the inclination or the fitness to play a defensive game. I remain he has been the best coach of the WC for what he has done with players of limited individual talent.
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limited individual talent?? what team were you watching...Bahrain?
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Where Touches now?
:rotfl:
Evans Wise was as useful to our team as Ince.......steups...big man like he givin poor quality crosses de whole match
Samuel is a much more effective player...cuz of his speed and because of the fact the Wise cant cross that well either and Wise is not as aggressive.
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alright seriously
stop playing
what is your point
first yuh talking bout wise then shaka then latas
yuh bored ???
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evans wise. steups. make room for him because he was great against grenada!! you all got your wish. by far the worst player out there. i cant believe samuel didnt get in one game
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All I could say is Evans you play real shit and that's why you're playing in the german third division,but all the best in the future,less talk and more action is motto going into 2010................
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You all really got your wish the man play against a Grenadian Olympic team and all yuh feel the man is a real boss ,well he didn't fool all yuh alone obviously he got beenie! his place in the both games he played should have gone to Samuel!!!!!!!! NUF SAID
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i cant believe samuel didnt get in one game
??? ??? ???
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must admit wise was disappointing,great things was expected from him,but what about theobald,did he deserve to start all three games
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i cant believe samuel didnt get in one game
??? ??? ???
Samuel played against Sweden. Please PPL know what yuh'll talking or think before yuh type. Wise didnt play good that all. I believe Scottland should have gotten a play.
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At least Beenhakker like Wise and he made the call, not us, he included Wise in de team out of ALL the other standby players who also got the chance vs Grenada, secondly, as bad as Wise perform I will still pick him over Theobald and Wolfe (as of now), dont know what the future holds, but Wise did let me down as I was expecting more, he couldn't even beat his man and that was something he was good at.
Did Wolfe even play in any world cup qualifiers.
How do you rate Theobald performance in the world cup.
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I think Evans Wise came out the best out of everybody in this whole World Cup scenario,he had no pressure to undergo like the other guys,he walked in at the right time and it paid off for him,i'm sure this will be the last of the great Evans Wise(dribbler).I still feel Benie was pressured into picking that guy because you just don't pick players you don't know about,but everybody wanted him.He get a million dollars for shining against Grenada what a waste and people talking about what Denzil did.
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Alyuh just fickle and bad mind.
Go back and read the comments from the few warm up games wise played in.
Look at the crosses and plays he make then.
When we play Slovenia and he come orn he was one of the better players on the field.
Alyuh judging the man on the one performance yuh see and flapping alyuh beak.
If the man wasnt quality he would not have made the squad.....simple.
He had a bad game I would admit that, but the man can play.
I still maintain he better than Samuel and more useful.
Alyuh is hindsight champions, quiet quiet before offering no suggestions or solutions but quick to bash men. It is as if alyuh does want players to fail just to prove a chupid point on this board.
Wise had attributes to offer the team and he come out real good in the end.
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Yes we bad mind and he play twice.I have no prob with he getting pick,but after the Eng failure he should"n run against Paraguay.
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Yes we bad mind and he play twice.I have no prob with he getting pick,but after the Eng failure he should"n run against Paraguay.
Allyuh harsh boy. A man get a run for 5 minutes against England and allyuh say he fail. ::) ::)
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Life tough.....he only play 5 mins and play so much tata jah,
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Although he was only on de field for five minutes he play 20 mins worth of nonsense...
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At least Beenhakker like Wise and he made the call, not us, he included Wise in de team out of ALL the other standby players who also got the chance vs Grenada, secondly, as bad as Wise perform I will still pick him over Theobald and Wolfe (as of now), dont know what the future holds, but Wise did let me down as I was expecting more, he couldn't even beat his man and that was something he was good at.
Did Wolfe even play in any world cup qualifiers.
How do you rate Theobald performance in the world cup.
everybody talking about how bad wise play in the world cup but what I cyar understand is how ah man like thoebald get so much minutes and play in every single game and eh do shit in none ah de games
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Doing nothing and doing shit is 2 different things.Denzil might have done nothing, but Wise play real crap, his dribbling was off, his crosses were horrible.I think Samuel would have been a btter option at that point, but I am not a coach and was not there to see who performed well in training .
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Seeing that poor Wise is now rich Wise,I am wondering if the selection process could have been tainted based on the knowledge that before the squad was picked people knew that the government was going to shell out big bucks just for getting to the world cup, and choices were made based on, 'yeah you getting ah million, an yuh see you, no million fuh you'.
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Seeing that poor Wise is now rich Wise,I am wondering if the selection process could have been tainted based on the knowledge that before the squad was picked people knew that the government was going to shell out big bucks just for getting to the world cup, and choices were made based on, 'yeah you getting ah million, an yuh see you, no million fuh you'.
yes Fernandes say that if Dwarika make that team they going to get buy out in one grap...so he ent get pick... ::)
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Typical Trini reaction to ah man who shake a few Grenadians. We papa yuh have to pick he! Wise was never any good, sorry but its true. I have never seen Wise play a game for T&t where I could say yes Wise was boss
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I think Evans Wise came out the best out of everybody in this whole World Cup scenario,he had no pressure to undergo like the other guys,he walked in at the right time and it paid off for him,i'm sure this will be the last of the great Evans Wise(dribbler).I still feel Benie was pressured into picking that guy because you just don't pick players you don't know about,but everybody wanted him.He get a million dollars for shining against Grenada what a waste and people talking about what Denzil did.
Have you ever heard of something called ‘Highway robbery’! Well let’s call it a ‘Wise robbery’! ;D :rotfl:
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i cant believe samuel didnt get in one game
??? ??? ???
He played the first half against Sweden.
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Yeh Wise disappoint meh 2, but Theobald, ah doh see what he brought tuh de table tuh be starting. But dat is just my opinion, I is not ah coach.
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Alyuh just fickle and bad mind.
Go back and read the comments from the few warm up games wise played in.
Look at the crosses and plays he make then.
When we play Slovenia and he come orn he was one of the better players on the field.
Alyuh judging the man on the one performance yuh see and flapping alyuh beak.
If the man wasnt quality he would not have made the squad.....simple.
He had a bad game I would admit that, but the man can play.
I still maintain he better than Samuel and more useful.
Alyuh is hindsight champions, quiet quiet before offering no suggestions or solutions but quick to bash men. It is as if alyuh does want players to fail just to prove a chupid point on this board.
Wise had attributes to offer the team and he come out real good in the end.
Fickle and bad mind indeed...
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Yeh Wise disappoint meh 2, but Theobald, ah doh see what he brought tuh de table tuh be starting. But dat is just my opinion, I is not ah coach.
I ent like theobald either,but he played much better than wise 10 fold...............
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Yeh Wise disappoint meh 2, but Theobald, ah doh see what he brought tuh de table tuh be starting. But dat is just my opinion, I is not ah coach.
I ent like theobald either,but he played much better than wise 10 fold...............
10 fold!!!! MADDNESS!!!
Saga you need to watch them games again and again and focus on Theobald, that man play real 'too too'! The man needs a new brand of boots, made by Charmin, the 2 ply kind. He just looked lost out there.
I will admit Wise did not live up to expectations, but lawdy Denzil need to not cash his check until he has earned it, maybe in 2010. (http://www.charmin.com/en_us/images/prod_charmin_pack_over.gif)
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Wise might have performed well against Slovenia and look impressive against Grenada,and if he had reproduce half dah form ppl might ah been talking different bout him now.We all know the Wise of old cudda do some damage ( ah say cudda eh) but he just was not effective and also had ah poor showing,where he fail to cross,sometimes without any pressure and when he tried to dribble he lost the ball or fell .That being said . I find man coming down hard on de man becuz it boils down to the man had ah bad showing at the WC,it happens,many other players had bad performances also,but man maiking it sound like he deliberately went out dey to play shit....
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Why allyuh comin down on wise so,yuh have tuh remember some of dem players ent use tuh that kinda playin style, is de WC the best talent in de world is out there, it not as easy as it look.....geh de man some credit he did his best...
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People on this board is real kicks oui. I love it. Man see evans play a friendly against Grenada (flickin Grenada) and man insisting that we must make room for him on the squad. Cornell should stay injured, they should sacrifice WOlfe etc. This was the same evans that was tried by coach after national coach and found wanting. Fools gold you call that. Now man begrudging him he million. By the way, does anybody still favor Jack over Shaka? I say these things so that we could keep our views in perspective and that we shouldn't take ourselves too seriously. Sports at the highest level is about results and Beenie's record would show that when he took over we had 1 pt. in qualifying. The rest is history. All those who are armchair critics of the mn should bear this in mind,
A lot of good points there .... .
It was somewhat shocking to see the play of E.Wise with the shock mainly due to the expectations I had of him, expectations that were based on recommendations by trusted commentators in this forum. Wise should not have been on that field. How come it was so easy for him to fool the experts, especially those who were going around (this forum, Total Football show etc) singing his praises. The team needed someone on the left, but not anybody. D.Theobold also should not have been on the field but that is another story.
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Wise had every right to be on the field just as T&T had every right to be in the World Cup, the decision was made by the same man we leave everything up to...now after the fact, ppl bawling, he shoulda do this, and do that, and play he and not play he....So all of ah sudden he and all doh know...if Wise was not to be there he would not have been...I am not saying he had his best game, but isn't that obvious. the reason he was put on, is because the coach knows he is capable of doing something, the fact it didn't happen don't mean he can't do it...Why was Stern on the field, to score goal, didn't none, why was the defence on the field to stop goal, did they mess up in 2 whole games ? Is football, things doh always go right....I could find plenty shitplay any player do in the World Cup, but the more he play, the better chance he have to outweigh the bad...and now after fact, allyuh did expect Wise to run on and ghost 2/3 men, score a bullet, and set up Stern at least once...well tell meh who else do that?
Look I am certain some ppl had off days, buh doh tell meh somebody cyar have no ON day...Coaches hope that that ON day for most of their players is on the day of their WC game...Dem Swiss musbe real glad we wasn't backin dem boy...they woulda get nail to dat damn Cross on they chest
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Wise had every right to be on the field just as T&T had every right to be in the World Cup, the decision was made by the same man we leave everything up to...now after the fact, ppl bawling, he shoulda do this, and do that, and play he and not play he....So all of ah sudden he and all doh know...if Wise was not to be there he would not have been...I am not saying he had his best game, but isn't that obvious. the reason he was put on, is because the coach knows he is capable of doing something, the fact it didn't happen don't mean he can't do it...Why was Stern on the field, to score goal, didn't none, why was the defence on the field to stop goal, did they mess up in 2 whole games ? Is football, things doh always go right....I could find plenty shitplay any player do in the World Cup, but the more he play, the better chance he have to outweigh the bad...and now after fact, allyuh did expect Wise to run on and ghost 2/3 men, score a bullet, and set up Stern at least once...well tell meh who else do that?
Look I am certain some ppl had off days, buh doh tell meh somebody cyar have no ON day...Coaches hope that that ON day for most of their players is on the day of their WC game...Dem Swiss musbe real glad we wasn't backin dem boy...they woulda get nail to dat damn Cross on they chest
yuh eh lie dread .....well said !!!
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Well i won"t say after the fact,cause while d para game was still on I was bawling.......But at some point we have to stop condoning mediocrity.
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Well i won"t say after the fact,cause while d para game was still on I was bawling.......But at some point we have to stop condoning mediocrity.
Thank God, the Fifa ppl smart enuff not to overuse that word as often....on a lighter side
http://www.annabelle.net/topics/mediocrity.php
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Wise brings something to the team that Samuel was not bringing the ability to cross&pass from the left .If players like Theobold,Wolf and Charles is on this team then Wise should be on this team cause he is much better players than those 3 players.
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In short, theobald totally clueless, wise bad game, mem mum need seasoning, stern need ah bath 3 games and no goals. Everybody else just right
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he didn't cross the ball or pass like he should, but he did come on and twist up aaron lennon (lennon did recover tho) can't stand that lennon youth, he look like on of them men who like to embarrass you...he cocky with his lil short self.
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In short, theobald totally clueless, wise bad game, mem mum need seasoning, stern need ah bath 3 games and no goals. Everybody else just right
3 games and no goals.. Ronaldinho,Luca Toni etc: are all more proilfic and recognized scorers, did not score for how many games ?
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People on this board is real kicks oui. I love it. Man see evans play a friendly against Grenada (flickin Grenada) and man insisting that we must make room for him on the squad. Cornell should stay injured, they should sacrifice WOlfe etc. This was the same evans that was tried by coach after national coach and found wanting. Fools gold you call that. Now man begrudging him he million. By the way, does anybody still favor Jack over Shaka? I say these things so that we could keep our views in perspective and that we shouldn't take ourselves too seriously. Sports at the highest level is about results and Beenie's record would show that when he took over we had 1 pt. in qualifying. The rest is history. All those who are armchair critics of the mn should bear this in mind,
A lot of good points there .... .
It was somewhat shocking to see the play of E.Wise with the shock mainly due to the expectations I had of him, expectations that were based on recommendations by trusted commentators in this forum. Wise should not have been on that field. How come it was so easy for him to fool the experts, especially those who were going around (this forum, Total Football show etc) singing his praises. The team needed someone on the left, but not anybody. D.Theobold also should not have been on the field but that is another story.
So I must be the only person who thought Wise did alright ::)
I find it really hard to read 2 pages of hate about one of our own players, part of a team that made us all so proud. I was in Germany for both d England and Paraguay games, so I thought maybe I had missed something, and I ent post until I went back and watch d games on TV. And I still cyah see what everyone so vex at Wise for. Against Paraguay he ran up and down d line all night, he helped out in defence and he didnt play selfishly or waste time dribbling men 2 and 3 times as he has been prone to doing in the past. I would have liked to see Colin Samuel play against Paraguay, but dat isnt no reason to hate on Wise. It seems like some of you are implying that Wise was being dishonest by playing well against Grenada and Slovenia ??? You really can't please some people...
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Wise had every right to be on the field just as T&T had every right to be in the World Cup, the decision was made by the same man we leave everything up to...now after the fact, ppl bawling, he shoulda do this, and do that, and play he and not play he....So all of ah sudden he and all doh know...if Wise was not to be there he would not have been...I am not saying he had his best game, but isn't that obvious. the reason he was put on, is because the coach knows he is capable of doing something, the fact it didn't happen don't mean he can't do it...Why was Stern on the field, to score goal, didn't none, why was the defence on the field to stop goal, did they mess up in 2 whole games ? Is football, things doh always go right....I could find plenty shitplay any player do in the World Cup, but the more he play, the better chance he have to outweigh the bad...and now after fact, allyuh did expect Wise to run on and ghost 2/3 men, score a bullet, and set up Stern at least once...well tell meh who else do that?
Look I am certain some ppl had off days, buh doh tell meh somebody cyar have no ON day...Coaches hope that that ON day for most of their players is on the day of their WC game...Dem Swiss musbe real glad we wasn't backin dem boy...they woulda get nail to dat damn Cross on they chest
GREAT POST BREDDA!
De Puna Assassin mus be proud!
Respeck
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That is my point exactly. Is either you believe in the coach or you don't. i have never liked evans as a player but beenie picked up. My overall assessment of beenie is he is a great coach. Let him pick and run the side. the results have spoken for themselves. i just want you to understand in the same vein that when he ent pick latapy the same rationale you just cited applies. i just cited evans to show that a lot of people believe they know a lot about football but how poor we are at judging football talent.
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i was waiting for this, ha ha real kicks he was a bit out of sorts to be honest did not look that sharp.
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That is my point exactly. Is either you believe in the coach or you don't. i have never liked evans as a player but beenie picked up. My overall assessment of beenie is he is a great coach. Let him pick and run the side. the results have spoken for themselves. i just want you to understand in the same vein that when he ent pick latapy the same rationale you just cited applies. i just cited evans to show that a lot of people believe they know a lot about football but how poor we are at judging football talent.
So you're also directing your post to yourself then? Because were you not the person who said...and I quote...
Stern John - i dont really know what to say other than to be mystified how this guy played 270 minutes of our campaign. A more saga boy, lethargis striker you could not possibly find. I had a post about starting Shaka - I think my point has been conclusively proven. Why Jack started this game i dont know. Also, I would have brought latapy on earlier in this game.
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Well i won"t say after the fact,cause while d para game was still on I was bawling.......But at some point we have to stop condoning mediocrity.
Compre yuh now see why me and Disgruntled doe like #14