From Man U team perspective, a bad move, for Christiano Ronaldo, it would be a great move. Spanish football more suits his style of play. Dribble, dribble, dribble, get touched, Fall. He will also get more time to do his multiple step-overs that take him no where and nobody will be trying to break his legs. Tho i am a Chelski fan, I also think Robben aka The flying Dutchman, would also flourish in the Spanish league. The EPL is simply not patented for players who adore the ball at their feet. best of Luck Ronaldo...
i going to soon have a cermony for the burning of my ronaldo poster...flippin twit..
i going to soon have a cermony for the burning of my ronaldo poster...flippin twit..
my own is down a shreded suince july 1st
go and ruin yuh carrer yuh money hungry f**ker
This has all played right into his hands.
He has clearly being talking to a potential president of Real Madrid and he now has the perfect chance to request a transfer and not look like it was his fault.
He gets abuse from opposing fans all the time, this will be no different. If he was a man, he would stay and show his class, but my guess he will demonstrate what a snivelling spoilt little child he really is.
come to Liverpool, that way Crouch stay on the benchNah... let him go some were else l-pool dont want him...doh say dat..please..
This has all played right into his hands.
He has clearly being talking to a potential president of Real Madrid and he now has the perfect chance to request a transfer and not look like it was his fault.
He gets abuse from opposing fans all the time, this will be no different. If he was a man, he would stay and show his class, but my guess he will demonstrate what a snivelling spoilt little child he really is.
That's why you could sit back and make them comments pompey because you doh have to face the taunts,but he's his own man making his own choices. Â
come to Liverpool, that way Crouch stay on the benchNah... let him go some were else l-pool dont want him...doh say dat..please..
Cristiano for Carlos....
Sounds good to me
Cristiano for Carlos....
Sounds good to me
sounds good to you!  replace cristiano with carlos lol
i dont mindf carlos coming to utd but NOT to replace cristiano
He should Go! That Fake Flake Fkuker, make room for Carlos and de extra money bring back Yorkie.
2 beautiful goals i may add
2 beautiful goals i may add
yuh still want rooney to break he foot?
2 beautiful goals i may add
2 beautiful goals i may add
yuh still want rooney to break he foot?
oh shite :frustrated: this news sucks. i sure all man u fans crying now :(
I wouldn't be surprised if he moves.
La Liga is de best.
I wouldn't be surprised if he moves.
La Liga is de best.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
La Liga is bull shit, Spain always exits the world cup earlier than England. Most Spanish starts won't make it in England!
I doubt very much he'll be going anywhere.
This is a common tactic for Madrid, unsettle the players they want to sign by having their propaganda machine shit out a couple articles which are based on nothing more than hearsay.
He was supposed to go there last summer no?
Peong, where does most of the Spanish national team select from, which league. Plus which league does most of England's national team come from? Whose national team is more successful?
Your name is Peong so you like to see man hold de ball for long periods. Sometimes all that is what you see in La Liga, while they have great attacking dey have poor defenders! Sorry, too many high scoring games. Not enough physicality, not enough speed in La Liga! Only two teams really attract the world's best players in Spain. I watched Real Madrid last 2 games and was bored the hell outa my mind, Bayer should have not made such easy mistakes. Plus you rely on Beckham to win games for you? Come on....!
Peong, where does most of the Spanish national team select from, which league. Plus which league does most of England's national team come from? Whose national team is more successful?
Your name is Peong so you like to see man hold de ball for long periods. Sometimes all that is what you see in La Liga, while they have great attacking dey have poor defenders! Sorry, too many high scoring games. Not enough physicality, not enough speed in La Liga! Only two teams really attract the world's best players in Spain. I watched Real Madrid last 2 games and was bored the hell outa my mind, Bayer should have not made such easy mistakes. Plus you rely on Beckham to win games for you? Come on....!
Is down to what yuh like. There are too many different factors you can look at for each respective "Big Three" league, and if yuh biased, you can easily twist these factors to suit your agenda.
Example, dctrini yuh say La Liga doh have enough speed and physicality thus it inferior to EPL. What if you looked at creativity, improvisation, player technique, and flowing football revolving around a midfield and skilful wingers? EPL have nothing on La Liga in this aspect. Or if you looked at defensive prowess, individual-centered and more structure, Serie A taking that...
All are legitimate aspects and each league is different. Some ppl does take de joy out of football when they constantly comparing the different leagues, playing on stereotypes and consistently categorizing, as if to from a hierarchy or something. Just because yuh team playing dey doh make it the best.
Even if you look at recent CL results you will see that a team from a different league wins it every year: Bayern Munich (2000), Madrid (2001), AC Milan (2002), FC Porto (2003), Liverpool (2005), Barcelona (2006)
Past history doh count, because it have teams like Nottingham Forest, and all kinda Hamburger and Red Star Belgrade winning the CL...where those teams at now?
Peong, where does most of the Spanish national team select from, which league. Plus which league does most of England's national team come from? Whose national team is more successful?
Your name is Peong so you like to see man hold de ball for long periods. Sometimes all that is what you see in La Liga, while they have great attacking dey have poor defenders! Sorry, too many high scoring games. Not enough physicality, not enough speed in La Liga! Only two teams really attract the world's best players in Spain. I watched Real Madrid last 2 games and was bored the hell outa my mind, Bayer should have not made such easy mistakes. Plus you rely on Beckham to win games for you? Come on....!
Is down to what yuh like. There are too many different factors you can look at for each respective "Big Three" league, and if yuh biased, you can easily twist these factors to suit your agenda.
Example, dctrini yuh say La Liga doh have enough speed and physicality thus it inferior to EPL. What if you looked at creativity, improvisation, player technique, and flowing football revolving around a midfield and skilful wingers? EPL have nothing on La Liga in this aspect. Or if you looked at defensive prowess, individual-centered and more structure, Serie A taking that...
All are legitimate aspects and each league is different. Some ppl does take de joy out of football when they constantly comparing the different leagues, playing on stereotypes and consistently categorizing, as if to from a hierarchy or something. Just because yuh team playing dey doh make it the best.
Even if you look at recent CL results you will see that a team from a different league wins it every year: Bayern Munich (2000), Madrid (2001), AC Milan (2002), FC Porto (2003), Liverpool (2005), Barcelona (2006)
Past history doh count, because it have teams like Nottingham Forest, and all kinda Hamburger and Red Star Belgrade winning the CL...where those teams at now?
Grande Man yuh bring up good points, but I am not afraid to say that i am narrow minded. When I played intercol I played like the English, when I reach the states, I beat up enough man skillfully and physically playing the English style, cause i grow up watching de English league. I must be biased. I following Man U since I was a boy. So I factor in all that I like about that league in it for it to be de best. Plus who say what, De Socawarriors is primarily an English team because we players plying their trade where else but there. So I must prefer de league over all!
Peong, where does most of the Spanish national team select from, which league. Plus which league does most of England's national team come from? Whose national team is more successful?
Your name is Peong so you like to see man hold de ball for long periods. Sometimes all that is what you see in La Liga, while they have great attacking dey have poor defenders! Sorry, too many high scoring games. Not enough physicality, not enough speed in La Liga! Only two teams really attract the world's best players in Spain. I watched Real Madrid last 2 games and was bored the hell outa my mind, Bayer should have not made such easy mistakes. Plus you rely on Beckham to win games for you? Come on....!
Is down to what yuh like. There are too many different factors you can look at for each respective "Big Three" league, and if yuh biased, you can easily twist these factors to suit your agenda.
Example, dctrini yuh say La Liga doh have enough speed and physicality thus it inferior to EPL. What if you looked at creativity, improvisation, player technique, and flowing football revolving around a midfield and skilful wingers? EPL have nothing on La Liga in this aspect. Or if you looked at defensive prowess, individual-centered and more structure, Serie A taking that...
All are legitimate aspects and each league is different. Some ppl does take de joy out of football when they constantly comparing the different leagues, playing on stereotypes and consistently categorizing, as if to from a hierarchy or something. Just because yuh team playing dey doh make it the best.
Even if you look at recent CL results you will see that a team from a different league wins it every year: Bayern Munich (2000), Madrid (2001), AC Milan (2002), FC Porto (2003), Liverpool (2005), Barcelona (2006)
Past history doh count, because it have teams like Nottingham Forest, and all kinda Hamburger and Red Star Belgrade winning the CL...where those teams at now?
Grande Man yuh bring up good points, but I am not afraid to say that i am narrow minded. When I played intercol I played like the English, when I reach the states, I beat up enough man skillfully and physically playing the English style, cause i grow up watching de English league. I must be biased. I following Man U since I was a boy. So I factor in all that I like about that league in it for it to be de best. Plus who say what, De Socawarriors is primarily an English team because we players plying their trade where else but there. So I must prefer de league over all!
Dctrini if the English style and English league is all yuh know, then it not fair to compare it to others in order to proclaim it as the best in the world...just say yuh like it and leave it so :beermug:
Peong, where does most of the Spanish national team select from, which league. Plus which league does most of England's national team come from? Whose national team is more successful?
Your name is Peong so you like to see man hold de ball for long periods. Sometimes all that is what you see in La Liga, while they have great attacking dey have poor defenders! Sorry, too many high scoring games. Not enough physicality, not enough speed in La Liga! Only two teams really attract the world's best players in Spain. I watched Real Madrid last 2 games and was bored the hell outa my mind, Bayer should have not made such easy mistakes. Plus you rely on Beckham to win games for you? Come on....!
Peong, where does most of the Spanish national team select from, which league. Plus which league does most of England's national team come from? Whose national team is more successful?
Your name is Peong so you like to see man hold de ball for long periods. Sometimes all that is what you see in La Liga, while they have great attacking dey have poor defenders! Sorry, too many high scoring games. Not enough physicality, not enough speed in La Liga! Only two teams really attract the world's best players in Spain. I watched Real Madrid last 2 games and was bored the hell outa my mind, Bayer should have not made such easy mistakes. Plus you rely on Beckham to win games for you? Come on....!
Let me start by saying that I am a big fan of the English League and used to be a big fan of England.
That being said nothing that you say there makes sense.
Saying that England is better than Spain is like saying that 7th place is better than 8th place. Both of them are disappointments when tournament time comes around. Spain win a European championship at home, England win a WC at home. Both over 40 years ago and have done nothing since.
Only two teams draw big players in Spain? Even if you believe that incorrect statement, which team in England drawing the likes of Maradona, Zidane, Figo, Stoichkov, Hagi, Romario, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo in their prime? You can't even compare players unless you really believe that Lampard and Co. are the world's best.
Just because you like something doesn't make it the best.
Did we not establish my narrow mindedness of my love for the EPL.
EPL is de best in my opinion, I doh care about la liga and all de names!
You were the one who tried to compare the two national teams and the quality of players in the respective Leagues. I just pointed out the flaws in both of those comparisons.
quaresma better than cristiano
No problem. In return we'll take Robinho and a cool 10mil.
Dat sound about right. ;D
quaresma better than cristiano
Goals does not mean the best. I think the best overall player (or perhaps the best) is Michael Essien. Essien he can do everything. Can you tell me a player who plays in the top leagues or teams, that goes from center midlfield, to center back to right back etc.. Essien is overlooked. He plays all those positions like he is accustomed to. Next time you watch a Chelsea game just look keep your eye on him.
CR needed some CL goals so that Man U would get even bigger money for him from Real Madrid this summer.
Goals does not mean the best. I think the best overall player (or perhaps the best) is Michael Essien. Essien he can do everything. Can you tell me a player who plays in the top leagues or teams, that goes from center midlfield, to center back to right back etc.. Essien is overlooked. He plays all those positions like he is accustomed to. Next time you watch a Chelsea game just look keep your eye on him.
He is not even the best at Man Utd allyuh go proclaim he is the best in the world
when I hear these things I does shake meh head and pray for de sake of football oui
He is not even the best at Man Utd allyuh go proclaim he is the best in the world
when I hear these things I does shake meh head and pray for de sake of football oui
I'd like to ask everyone... if you had your last $10 (or whatever) to spend and see a player play, which one would you pay to see?
I personally think that Micheal Essien is the best player in England hands down. He is more of an asset to Chelsea than C.Ronaldo is to Man U. He carry Chelsea from Centre back, midfield and right back. Setup and score goals from each position... Works hard every game...C.Ronaldo doesn't do well against big teams ...I see somebody say C.Ronaldo is a clutch player...wha clutch player?! steups behave yuh dam self eh boy...Once the man realize he can't beat yuh he diving in the box ...just like against middlesborough when he leave is foot behind for woodgate to touch...Ronaldinho is a clutch player, Kaka is a clutch player, Drogba is a clutch player, Messi is clutch player, Eto'o is a clutch player...These fellas raise their games against big teams not Watford and West Ham and bottom half teams....How much penalties C.Ronaldo take for the season? Umpteen....And While I am at it I find he should change his name to Cristiano like before because he really not worthy to don that name...The Legend like Brazilian Ronaldo don't deserve to be disgraced by having his name spread across an over-hyped, probably in form but not against the opposition, diving scumbag like Cristiano... Man U is a good team but they have been lucky with refs and certain calls this year....Kaka is the best in the World and Essien is the best in ENgland
I personally think that Micheal Essien is the best player in England hands down. He is more of an asset to Chelsea than C.Ronaldo is to Man U. He carry Chelsea from Centre back, midfield and right back. Setup and score goals from each position... Works hard every game...C.Ronaldo doesn't do well against big teams ...I see somebody say C.Ronaldo is a clutch player...wha clutch player?! steups behave yuh dam self eh boy...Once the man realize he can't beat yuh he diving in the box ...just like against middlesborough when he leave is foot behind for woodgate to touch...Ronaldinho is a clutch player, Kaka is a clutch player, Drogba is a clutch player, Messi is clutch player, Eto'o is a clutch player...These fellas raise their games against big teams not Watford and West Ham and bottom half teams....How much penalties C.Ronaldo take for the season? Umpteen....And While I am at it I find he should change his name to Cristiano like before because he really not worthy to don that name...The Legend like Brazilian Ronaldo don't deserve to be disgraced by having his name spread across an over-hyped, probably in form but not against the opposition, diving scumbag like Cristiano... Man U is a good team but they have been lucky with refs and certain calls this year....Kaka is the best in the World and Essien is the best in ENgland
I hear yuh point, but next time try putting it across like a grown man nah... you are so passionate in your disdain for CR, that I will dismiss your comments as you just being a CR hater, because like or not, anyone with fairly rational mind, will see that CR is quality, maybe not the best in world, but certainly his form at present will put his name in the conversation, you have to give him credit! And if you don't see that point, then we really can't have a conversation.
CR has 16 goals and 14 assist this season
Drogba has 18 goals and 3 assisit
Essien has 1 goal and 3 assist
Lampard has 11 goals and 11 assist
Now these numbers are somewhat arbitary, but I have seen most of Manu's and Chelsea's games this season, I can say that CR deserves his accolades.... even if I was not a Manu fan or CR fan, I would still be intelligent enough to recognize his great season!
Is Liverpool a big team? If all you say is true, why teams like Roma try to double team him? Why people have it so hard paying the youth his dues?
Is Liverpool a big team? If all you say is true, why teams like Roma try to double team him? Why people have it so hard paying the youth his dues?
Having watched as much of the Seria A as Premier. i would say Kaka has carried Milan on his back. he has not only been their most creative, but has contributed with big goals at crucial moments.
i know people will say lets wait until they meet in CL and being a Milan fan I cannot wait. However, I will admit that i think ManU will overcome Milan since I think Milan are struggling for form and consistency and are too dependent on one or two players. This makes them predictable and easy to shut down.
Is Liverpool a big team? If all you say is true, why teams like Roma try to double team him? Why people have it so hard paying the youth his dues?
Lazie, Ronaldo is a wonderful talent but what people having a hard time with is the blind type of "best in the World label" I enjoy watching Ronaldo and I think he has been a big part of ManU, all of which you have described. But if I was objective and say ok using all your discriptions of a player's contribution, then Kaka should definately be in the running. Having watched as much of the Seria A as Premier. i would say Kaka has carried Milan on his back. he has not only been their most creative, but has contributed with big goals at crucial moments.
i know people will say lets wait until they meet in CL and being a Milan fan I cannot wait. However, I will admit that i think ManU will overcome Milan since I think Milan are struggling for form and consistency and are too dependent on one or two players. This makes them predictable and easy to shut down.
Okay.....I have had it up to eyeballs with this C. Ronaldo best in the world
YES he is playing the BEST football of his career so far. The MOST exciting footballer in the EPL...............is FAST and extremely SKILlFULL. Ever since his first year ....I knew he has immense talent with the BALL at his feet and is a menance when running with the ball..............however there is a huge BUT
He is too selfish.........however he hs improved this season whihc to me is the reason he is doing well...........He holds on to the ball way too long when he should have made the first pass......then passes when the chance is gone......For example MAN utd trounced ROMA due to superior ball movement.......quick passes killed them. He sooooooooo needs to work on his footballing "sense" also he is pure offence no defence......I am sorry I look for a more rounded player.......I know I will get flack but DROGS or ESSIEN or ROONEY has better FOOTBALL SENSE than C. Ronaldo.
C. Ronaldo is not even the best player @ his club ..........how can he be the best in the world ??.......see my other post for more clarification
Okay.....I have had it up to eyeballs with this C. Ronaldo best in the world
YES he is playing the BEST football of his career so far. The MOST exciting footballer in the EPL...............is FAST and extremely SKILlFULL. Ever since his first year ....I knew he has immense talent with the BALL at his feet and is a menance when running with the ball..............however there is a huge BUT
He is too selfish.........however he hs improved this season whihc to me is the reason he is doing well...........He holds on to the ball way too long when he should have made the first pass......then passes when the chance is gone......For example MAN utd trounced ROMA due to superior ball movement.......quick passes killed them. He sooooooooo needs to work on his footballing "sense" also he is pure offence no defence......I am sorry I look for a more rounded player.......I know I will get flack but DROGS or ESSIEN or ROONEY has better FOOTBALL SENSE than C. Ronaldo.
RasIred, if a youth thats too selfish, who has the most assist for his club? Better yet, who has more assists than Ronaldo in the EPL? Since he is selffish etc, how come he is tied with 2 players for the most assist in the Champions League?
The youth has no football sense but he played in the World Cup semis, has been an instrumental factor with Manu, The Empire being in the semis of the CL, finals of the FA Cup and still on top of the EPL. If he has no football sense, then football sense is overrated.
So he get to the world cup semis by himself lazie or he had a good team around him? So he singlehandedly take manu to the semis? Seems like you not watching the man game properly you just on he make semis and all that shit last time I check it was 11 men out there so doh be disrespectful to the teams....the fact is he is skillful nobody deny that but he is a freaing ball ho he holds the ball much longer than he needs to and he is selfish I'd like to think he'll improve as he gets older....and the fact is if he gets smarter as a player he could be able to turn semis into gold in the finals.......
DOHA, April 19 (Reuters) - Cristiano Ronaldo needs to stay at his peak for another two years before he can be called one of the world's greatest players, according to Pele.I totally agree
The great Brazilian, who won three World Cups, said the Portugal winger, who has been in inspired form for Manchester United this season, was 'one of the good players' but it was too soon to call him one of the best in the world.
In a wide-ranging interview, Pele said: 'To mention him as one of the best players in the world is very soon... We have Kaka, who plays very well, too...
'Four or five years ago, we had Ronaldinho in good shape. We have to wait a little bit. Let's see, in one or two more years, if they keep at the same level.'
United manager Alex Ferguson recently compared Ronaldo's skills to those of Pele and Diego Maradona, whose individual talent inspired Argentina to win the World Cup in 1986.
Ferguson said Ronaldo, who last week agreed a new five-year contract with the Premier League leaders, should try to emulate the two South Americans.
Pele was speaking at the launch of Doha's Aspire Academy, a programme to give talented African students a chance to study, and train at one of the world's most advanced sports academies.
Turning to the World Cup, Pele sounded a note of caution about Brazil's bid to host the 2014 finals, now unopposed since the withdrawal of Colombia.
He cited the problems South Africa has faced since winning the right to stage the 2010 tournament.
'Africa has a little problem because everybody fights - and everybody worked hard to see the World Cup in Africa - and then it's a little complicated, the situation there,' he said.
'I hope Brazil will be prepared because today to organise a World Cup is very expensive. It's very difficult because it's 32 countries, it's not so easy.'
Asked about former England captain David Beckham's transfer from Real Madrid to LA Galaxy at the end of the season, Pele said he was not sure if it was a good move for the player but it was good for soccer in the United States.
'I don't know if it's a good choice but for America it's a fantastic promotion,' said Pele, who starred for New York Cosmos in the North American Soccer League in the 1970s.
'He could help the same as myself, (Franz) Beckenbauer, Carlos Alberto and Georgio Chinaglia - when we were all at the end of our career we promoted football in the United States.
'Then I think George Best was in LA... where Beckham is going to play... I hope he can help a lot though'.
Pele also spoke in support of Maradona, recently readmitted to hospital in Buenos Aires with alcohol-related problems.
'It's a shame because two years ago Maradona opened a programme, a talk show, and I was there to help him with the first programme,' said Pele.
'At that time, he was very well. He had recovered. Unfortunately, now he's back in hospital.
'It's difficult to say exactly what happened because before it was drugs and now the doctors say it's alcohol... but I feel very sorry for him being in hospital.'
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=423127&cc=5901
Okay.....I have had it up to eyeballs with this C. Ronaldo best in the world
YES he is playing the BEST football of his career so far. The MOST exciting footballer in the EPL...............is FAST and extremely SKILlFULL. Ever since his first year ....I knew he has immense talent with the BALL at his feet and is a menance when running with the ball..............however there is a huge BUT
He is too selfish.........however he hs improved this season whihc to me is the reason he is doing well...........He holds on to the ball way too long when he should have made the first pass......then passes when the chance is gone......For example MAN utd trounced ROMA due to superior ball movement.......quick passes killed them. He sooooooooo needs to work on his footballing "sense" also he is pure offence no defence......I am sorry I look for a more rounded player.......I know I will get flack but DROGS or ESSIEN or ROONEY has better FOOTBALL SENSE than C. Ronaldo.
RasIred, if a youth thats too selfish, who has the most assist for his club? Better yet, who has more assists than Ronaldo in the EPL? Since he is selffish etc, how come he is tied with 2 players for the most assist in the Champions League?
The youth has no football sense but he played in the World Cup semis, has been an instrumental factor with Manu, The Empire being in the semis of the CL, finals of the FA Cup and still on top of the EPL. If he has no football sense, then football sense is overrated.
So he get to the world cup semis by himself lazie or he had a good team around him? So he singlehandedly take manu to the semis? Seems like you not watching the man game properly you just on he make semis and all that shit last time I check it was 11 men out there so doh be disrespectful to the teams....the fact is he is skillful nobody deny that but he is a freaing ball ho he holds the ball much longer than he needs to and he is selfish I'd like to think he'll improve as he gets older....and the fact is if he gets smarter as a player he could be able to turn semis into gold in the finals.......
Okay.....I have had it up to eyeballs with this C. Ronaldo best in the world
YES he is playing the BEST football of his career so far. The MOST exciting footballer in the EPL...............is FAST and extremely SKILlFULL. Ever since his first year ....I knew he has immense talent with the BALL at his feet and is a menance when running with the ball..............however there is a huge BUT
He is too selfish.........however he hs improved this season whihc to me is the reason he is doing well...........He holds on to the ball way too long when he should have made the first pass......then passes when the chance is gone......For example MAN utd trounced ROMA due to superior ball movement.......quick passes killed them. He sooooooooo needs to work on his footballing "sense" also he is pure offence no defence......I am sorry I look for a more rounded player.......I know I will get flack but DROGS or ESSIEN or ROONEY has better FOOTBALL SENSE than C. Ronaldo.
RasIred, if a youth thats too selfish, who has the most assist for his club? Better yet, who has more assists than Ronaldo in the EPL? Since he is selffish etc, how come he is tied with 2 players for the most assist in the Champions League?
The youth has no football sense but he played in the World Cup semis, has been an instrumental factor with Manu, The Empire being in the semis of the CL, finals of the FA Cup and still on top of the EPL. If he has no football sense, then football sense is overrated.
Allyuh need tuh take allyuh time, Pele is known to pull down men and talk alot of shit sometimes.
On this occasion, Pele is making some sense but i think that most of alyuh misinterpret the article.
No-one said that Ronaldo is one of the all time greats, they were just alluding to the fact that he may be the best player at present and quite frankly, he is!!
I think Pele shows his 'hating' by stating that C. Ronaldo is just "one of the good players" and we all know that he is much more than that!
ps: Essien is ah borse, de most valuable player at Chelsea!!
ah love it!!
Small Mag I not suprised he win it, the way he was getting hyped up all this time:
young, good-looking, at Man Utd (most mainstream, marketed team), flashy with bags of skill (although with little end use), part of the 'great white hype' as well
call him the best player in the world, give him dem two PFA (Predictable Footballer Award?) awards and that is the icing on the C. Ronaldo cake...happened to Becks a few years ago as well.
but you take away all that...and all that is left is a youth who still needs to get wise to the game.
But if his approach to the game working and geting all these kinda praise and accolades...I mighta stay in my comfort zone and continue doing it too. But then again I like to challenge myself. Let we hope he continues to learn and broaden his game. I won't deny his potential to do this.
Right now de way de hype is, yuh go swear the man is a genius.
Ultimately though, this doh say much about what the EPL's emphasis on true QUALITY is.
Ronaldo has led Man Utd's chase for trophies this season
Manchester United's Cristiano Ronaldo has been named the PFA Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year at a gala dinner in London.
The 22-year-old winger is the first player to win both awards in the same season since Andy Gray in 1977.
The Portuguese has recovered from the controversy of last year's World Cup to help United battle for three trophies.
Chelsea striker Didier Drogba was second and Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes third in the senior award.
Manchester United veteran Ryan Giggs, last year's winner Steven Gerrard of Liverpool and 19-year-old Arsenal midfielder Cesc Fabregas also made ths shortlist.
Ronaldo, who has scored 16 Premiership goals so far this season to fire United to the top of the table, said it was a big honour to be singled out by his peers.
He said: "It is a special night. It is amazing and a big honour for me to win trophies like this in the English Premier League. I am very proud.
I think he is the best player in the world and his season has been incredible
Sir Alex Ferguson
"My colleagues have voted for me and that is fantastic because the players know the qualities of players.
"I want to keep working hard and getting better because these trophies have now given me more motivation.
"This great team has helped me because when the team wins it is easier for us all to play with more confidence."
Fabregas was second and Tottenham's Aaron Lennon, 20, third in the voting for the young player award.
Ronaldo's team-mate Wayne Rooney (21) was also shortlisted, as were Reading striker Kevin Doyle, 23, and 18-year-old defender Micah Richards of Manchester City.
Eight Manchester United players made it into the team of the year while manager Sir Alex Ferguson was honoured with the PFA Special Merit Award.
Ferguson paid tribute to Ronaldo, who joined United from Sporting Lisbon in a £12.2m deal in August 2003.
"At this moment in time, I think he is the best player in the world and his season has been incredible," he said.
This is for Grande
ask Boateng if he thought CR7 was predictable after this move:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q64aqQKTUEA
This is for Grande
ask Boateng if he thought CR7 was predictable after this move:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q64aqQKTUEA
SM the sex woulda look good if it worked...but otherwise that is vintage C. Ronaldo. The replays show that Boateng barely or didn't at all touch C. Ronaldo and when he see he can't get de ball (because he weight it too hard), he fall down. Even nicer dat he get the foul. Vintage C. Ronaldo.
I coming to assume that allyuh Utd fans does just see the skill and speed, not what results from it.
This is for Grande
ask Boateng if he thought CR7 was predictable after this move:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q64aqQKTUEA
SM the sex woulda look good if it worked...but otherwise that is vintage C. Ronaldo. The replays show that Boateng barely or didn't at all touch C. Ronaldo and when he see he can't get de ball (because he weight it too hard), he fall down. Even nicer dat he get the foul. Vintage C. Ronaldo.
I coming to assume that allyuh Utd fans does just see the skill and speed, not what results from it.
Wayzzzzzzzzzzz fada...
you just rell blinded boy
D man has the most goals this season for Utd most assists for Utd
but you say there is no end product
Be seriious and stop talking out ur ass
you starting to sound like Mourinho
"Barely or did not get touch" d man get hack down Boateng Knee clearly hits Ronaldo..... and he woulda get the ball
And asshole the end product here was getting the free kick in a dangerous position he bought the foul
If dat Happen yuh have to put all the ManU fan boys here on suicide alert.doh worry he eh going no where
The kinda tabanca certain men go experience.
Is Ronaldo really worth $75,000,000? I can't see it, honestly. I don't even believe that he is the best player in the world ever was or ever will be. He is good but that's it.
LOL... i guess that guarantee's he's not gay like allyuh claim....
and secondly why is this on the forum page? should'nt it be in General Discussion
LOL... i guess that guarantee's he's not gay like allyuh claim....
and secondly why is this on the forum page? should'nt it be in General Discussion
this is football news it may affect his manu form....
"One was Spanish-looking, very curvy and with long dark hair. I'd estimate the girls were up there about two hours so they must have had some fun.
He have taste :beermug: :beermug:
to quote a bredren on de forum, "Bull dem".:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: oh lawd....
why he paying for what he could get for free?
me eh understand celebs yes.
why he paying for what he could get for free?
me eh understand celebs yes.
Is better he pay a few Grand up front than have to pay a few million on the back slide. :devil:
Is better he pay a few Grand up front than have to pay a few million on the back slide. :devil:
Mick Jagger found out this the hard way, lost a wife and 50 mil all because could not spend a shilling on a condom. The brazilian swim suit model 9mts later and a dna test sued him.....
CR7 know what he doing....
Is better he pay a few Grand up front than have to pay a few million on the back slide. :devil:
Mick Jagger found out this the hard way, lost a wife and 50 mil all because could not spend a shilling on a condom. The brazilian swim suit model 9mts later and a dna test sued him.....
CR7 know what he doing....
Same way he could use a condom with a non-prostitute.
How you even know if he use a condom?
CR will pick up an STD just now.Jah Gol, how yuh goh call dat on de man dread....hmm.....All yuh aint like nobody nah. Yuh have to be a friend to de STDs and yuh wouldn't get it, when yuh study it too much den yuh does get it. :rotfl:
CR will pick up an STD just now.Jah Gol, how yuh goh call dat on de man dread....hmm.....All yuh aint like nobody nah. Yuh have to be a friend to de STDs and yuh wouldn't get it, when yuh study it too much den yuh does get it. :rotfl:
nutten rong wid hoes.them need to make money too. ;D
to quote a bredren on de forum, "Bull dem".could easily be the FUNNIEST thing i have ever heard......i read it and den buss out that laugh and choke at de same time where yuh is get real serious .4 seconds into yuh laugh cause you choke so hard you fear fuh yuh life.........i nearly dead people........and i eh hear dat phrase in a real long time to add insult to injury!
I agree...dem does lessesn de rape rate
I agree...dem does lessesn de rape rate
???
I agree...dem does lessesn de rape rate
???
i was ting de same ting .. how so? Rape is about power and control and domination, nutting to do with consensual sex.
Anyway, CR playing Russian Roulette any time he have sex with some one whose sexual history he doh know.
I wonder how de Manager can effectively handle this? More fines? ... his behavior may have consequences for the team at large.
I guess if it is his daughter... :rotfl:I agree...dem does lessesn de rape rate
???
i was ting de same ting .. how so? Rape is about power and control and domination, nutting to do with consensual sex.
Anyway, CR playing Russian Roulette any time he have sex with some one whose sexual history he doh know.
I wonder how de Manager can effectively handle this? More fines? ... his behavior may have consequences for the team at large.
who the man smash is he personal business, as long as he aint rape or beat up the thing. what dat hadda do with sir alex? could your boss tell you who you should and shouldn't bull?
I agree...dem does lessesn de rape rate
???
i was ting de same ting .. how so? Rape is about power and control and domination, nutting to do with consensual sex.
Anyway, CR playing Russian Roulette any time he have sex with some one whose sexual history he doh know.
I wonder how de Manager can effectively handle this? More fines? ... his behavior may have consequences for the team at large.
who the man smash is he personal business, as long as he aint rape or beat up the thing. what dat hadda do with sir alex? could your boss tell you who you should and shouldn't bull?
who the man smash is he personal business, as long as he aint rape or beat up the thing. what dat hadda do with sir alex? could your boss tell you who you should and shouldn't bull?Barca :whistling:
"If he goes to Madrid then I will go over to live with him. It is a city that I love.
"If he goes to Madrid then I will go over to live with him. It is a city that I love.
He go be brushin hoes with he mums in de next room yes :o
the original post is a very interesting study
ok but do they turn off the boards when he is taking a penalty at Old Trafford.....(spits) ;Dthe original post is a very interesting study
not so sure about the theory relating to the penalty miss. Old Trafford was one of the first grounds in the UK to have electronic advertising. It has never seemed to bother CR7 before
It have too many threads about this overrated hoe-runner
Anybody see the jose puppet on setanta? He have this show call 'I am on Setanta sport'. Funny no arse, he makin fun off Arsene, Alex and Rafa among others. It have some great impersonations too!
It have too many threads about this overrated hoe-runner
The man score 25 so far for the season and he still overrated... Wah football yuh kno bout...steups
hate to admit it, but on current form he's the best player in the world
and if was the Glazers i would give him the pay rise asap otherwise a certain Russian might try and tempt him with an offer that would be hard to refuse
It have too many threads about this overrated hoe-runner
The man score 25 so far for the season and he still overrated... Wah football yuh kno bout...steups
make that 27 after today ;D
What a player
and Grande..go suck Kaka dick
is robinho the best player on his team?? ummm... maybe, maybe not.. ruud, sneijder, guti are all having impressive seasons..
has robinho given me any memorable big game performances... ummm no, not really...
is robinho more indispensable than a Kaka, Messi, Cristiano, Drogba (why is his name not in this poll) or Zlatan?? NO, NO, NO!!
anyway like i said.. the best time for this discussion is at the critical phase of the season.. not now when certain men hogging de glory by constantly boring dem shitty EPL sides..
lets wait for the latter stages of the champions league and see who steps up like Kaka did last year..
Grande ...Thank You...Finally a man with some sense...Cristiano never prove himself against big opposition or had that magical moment when Man U needed him to step it up and bring everybody behind him....Kaka ...well Kaka master do this when Milan need him....Kaka is like a superhero..in fact he is the superhero of Milan....Ronaldinho do it for the past three seasons for Barca...Robinho doing it for Real now although others playing well...Cristiano never had that...Rooney is actually more of a clutch player than him....Cristiano, although a great player is not the best because he cannot decide a game when faced with true top class opposition and the odds against his team....All he doing is scoring goals more often...his free kick was though...And you know what will fret me ...he will have one good game against a top team and the Man U bottom lickers will say he is the best...One swallow doh make a summer....Kaka do it over and over againis robinho the best player on his team?? ummm... maybe, maybe not.. ruud, sneijder, guti are all having impressive seasons..
has robinho given me any memorable big game performances... ummm no, not really...
is robinho more indispensable than a Kaka, Messi, Cristiano, Drogba (why is his name not in this poll) or Zlatan?? NO, NO, NO!!
anyway like i said.. the best time for this discussion is at the critical phase of the season.. not now when certain men hogging de glory by constantly boring dem shitty EPL sides..
lets wait for the latter stages of the champions league and see who steps up like Kaka did last year..
I hear dat. Men watching C. Ronaldo scoring against these same weak EPL defenses who backing-back from the ball, get excited because he score two against mighty Portsmouth's Calamity James and ready to proclaim him the best in the world. Look de poster child for fellatio so sure about it dat he recommending his lifestyle choice to me.
I was never a fan of C. Ronaldo but I also never denied his potential. The free-kick today was real nice. He is significantly better and smarter than past seasons - but what has he proven against the great club teams of the world? Call him the 'greatest' in the WORLD ... has he outwitted and outshone the greatest on said planet? The hype dat characterizes the EPL and our exposure to FSC, BBC and Skysports making ppl believe C. Ronaldo is the best, as he scores against Reading, Birmingham, Spurs and Portsmouth. Meanwhile someone like Clarence Seedorf or Xavi doing it on every stage but we doh hear half as much
hate to admit it, but on current form he's the best player in the world
and if was the Glazers i would give him the pay rise asap otherwise a certain Russian might try and tempt him with an offer that would be hard to refuse
Oh please, with all due respects! Wishful thinkin on your part. Why would he leave a team like United to play with a team like Chelski? Chelski plays the most borin football for a team with all dat money. If he leaves he would live for another league not team in England.
No doubt KaKa is good, but tell me where is the KaKa you mention that do it over and over again? He does not look like a super hero right now. As far as I know AC Milan not doing to good in their league right now. They might not be in Champions league next season. For the last 3 seasons Ronaldo has shown that he is getting better at his game. People on here does want to fight down the BPL, It better than that corrupted Italian league and the racist Spanish league. I bet if Ronaldinho, Robinho, KaKa and a few more big names was playing here, they would stay quiet. I would also go as far as saying Ronaldo will be the next Fifa player of the year, mark my words.Grande ...Thank You...Finally a man with some sense...Cristiano never prove himself against big opposition or had that magical moment when Man U needed him to step it up and bring everybody behind him....Kaka ...well Kaka master do this when Milan need him....Kaka is like a superhero..in fact he is the superhero of Milan....Ronaldinho do it for the past three seasons for Barca...Robinho doing it for Real now although others playing well...Cristiano never had that...Rooney is actually more of a clutch player than him....Cristiano, although a great player is not the best because he cannot decide a game when faced with true top class opposition and the odds against his team....All he doing is scoring goals more often...his free kick was though...And you know what will fret me ...he will have one good game against a top team and the Man U bottom lickers will say he is the best...One swallow doh make a summer....Kaka do it over and over againis robinho the best player on his team?? ummm... maybe, maybe not.. ruud, sneijder, guti are all having impressive seasons..
has robinho given me any memorable big game performances... ummm no, not really...
is robinho more indispensable than a Kaka, Messi, Cristiano, Drogba (why is his name not in this poll) or Zlatan?? NO, NO, NO!!
anyway like i said.. the best time for this discussion is at the critical phase of the season.. not now when certain men hogging de glory by constantly boring dem shitty EPL sides..
lets wait for the latter stages of the champions league and see who steps up like Kaka did last year..
I hear dat. Men watching C. Ronaldo scoring against these same weak EPL defenses who backing-back from the ball, get excited because he score two against mighty Portsmouth's Calamity James and ready to proclaim him the best in the world. Look de poster child for fellatio so sure about it dat he recommending his lifestyle choice to me.
I was never a fan of C. Ronaldo but I also never denied his potential. The free-kick today was real nice. He is significantly better and smarter than past seasons - but what has he proven against the great club teams of the world? Call him the 'greatest' in the WORLD ... has he outwitted and outshone the greatest on said planet? The hype dat characterizes the EPL and our exposure to FSC, BBC and Skysports making ppl believe C. Ronaldo is the best, as he scores against Reading, Birmingham, Spurs and Portsmouth. Meanwhile someone like Clarence Seedorf or Xavi doing it on every stage but we doh hear half as much
Grande like you and Ponnox does buy from the same pusher man ah wah? Allyuh men go really fight down this man ability. When allyuh saying he aint prove himself against big opposition; define big oppositions? The man now has 27 goals for the season bredrens; 5 in the Champions League, 3 in the cup competitions and 19 in the Premier League. How can you really deny this man's talent. Listen I woulda agree with allyuh 2 years ago but this youth has shown drastic improvement especially in his decision making. He no longer dribbles unneccessarily but more direct with intent to do damage to the opposing team. When defenders come up against this man I see the kinda fear and uncertainty that players used to have coming up against Ronaldinho during his reign over world football. They dont kno what to expect from him when he is running at them with such lightening pace bc now he uses his trickery more efficiently. Under all the talk the man is one of the best running at players, he now brings other players into play well, and he socring at will as a wing midfielder. He has socred every type of goals thus far; porcher goals, headers and magnificnet strikes from either open play or dead ball situations. The man simply clutch right now. I bet if Robinho or Kaka was asked who dey think is the best in the world RIGHT NOW, the only words that would come out dey mouth are CHRISTIANO RONALDO...is robinho the best player on his team?? ummm... maybe, maybe not.. ruud, sneijder, guti are all having impressive seasons..
has robinho given me any memorable big game performances... ummm no, not really...
is robinho more indispensable than a Kaka, Messi, Cristiano, Drogba (why is his name not in this poll) or Zlatan?? NO, NO, NO!!
anyway like i said.. the best time for this discussion is at the critical phase of the season.. not now when certain men hogging de glory by constantly boring dem shitty EPL sides..
lets wait for the latter stages of the champions league and see who steps up like Kaka did last year..
I hear dat. Men watching C. Ronaldo scoring against these same weak EPL defenses who backing-back from the ball, get excited because he score two against mighty Portsmouth's Calamity James and ready to proclaim him the best in the world. Look de poster child for fellatio so sure about it dat he recommending his lifestyle choice to me.
I was never a fan of C. Ronaldo but I also never denied his potential. The free-kick today was real nice. He is significantly better and smarter than past seasons - but what has he proven against the great club teams of the world? Call him the 'greatest' in the WORLD ... has he outwitted and outshone the greatest on said planet? The hype dat characterizes the EPL and our exposure to FSC, BBC and Skysports making ppl believe C. Ronaldo is the best, as he scores against Reading, Birmingham, Spurs and Portsmouth. Meanwhile someone like Clarence Seedorf or Xavi doing it on every stage but we doh hear half as much
hate to admit it, but on current form he's the best player in the world
and if was the Glazers i would give him the pay rise asap otherwise a certain Russian might try and tempt him with an offer that would be hard to refuse
Oh please, with all due respects! Wishful thinkin on your part. Why would he leave a team like United to play with a team like Chelski? Chelski plays the most borin football for a team with all dat money. If he leaves he would live for another league not team in England.
if Abramovich offered Man Utd 200 million pounds they would sell
and if he offered Ronaldo £1 million pounds a week in wages he would sign in a heartbeat regardless of how boring he might think the football is at Chelsea
do you dispute this?
Good. Then we have established the principle that somewhere between the range of say 50,000 and 1 million there is a number that would tempt Ronaldo into signing for Chelsea
what that number is we can only speculate, but it exists, that is a fact
every player in every club in the world is for sale. It's only a question of determining how much
is robinho the best player on his team?? ummm... maybe, maybe not.. ruud, sneijder, guti are all having impressive seasons..
has robinho given me any memorable big game performances... ummm no, not really...
is robinho more indispensable than a Kaka, Messi, Cristiano, Drogba (why is his name not in this poll) or Zlatan?? NO, NO, NO!!
anyway like i said.. the best time for this discussion is at the critical phase of the season.. not now when certain men hogging de glory by constantly boring dem shitty EPL sides..
lets wait for the latter stages of the champions league and see who steps up like Kaka did last year..
I hear dat. Men watching C. Ronaldo scoring against these same weak EPL defenses who backing-back from the ball, get excited because he score two against mighty Portsmouth's Calamity James and ready to proclaim him the best in the world. Look de poster child for fellatio so sure about it dat he recommending his lifestyle choice to me.
I was never a fan of C. Ronaldo but I also never denied his potential. The free-kick today was real nice. He is significantly better and smarter than past seasons - but what has he proven against the great club teams of the world? Call him the 'greatest' in the WORLD ... has he outwitted and outshone the greatest on said planet? The hype dat characterizes the EPL and our exposure to FSC, BBC and Skysports making ppl believe C. Ronaldo is the best, as he scores against Reading, Birmingham, Spurs and Portsmouth. Meanwhile someone like Clarence Seedorf or Xavi doing it on every stage but we doh hear half as much
is robinho the best player on his team?? ummm... maybe, maybe not.. ruud, sneijder, guti are all having impressive seasons..
has robinho given me any memorable big game performances... ummm no, not really...
is robinho more indispensable than a Kaka, Messi, Cristiano, Drogba (why is his name not in this poll) or Zlatan?? NO, NO, NO!!
anyway like i said.. the best time for this discussion is at the critical phase of the season.. not now when certain men hogging de glory by constantly boring dem shitty EPL sides..
lets wait for the latter stages of the champions league and see who steps up like Kaka did last year..
I hear dat. Men watching C. Ronaldo scoring against these same weak EPL defenses who backing-back from the ball, get excited because he score two against mighty Portsmouth's Calamity James and ready to proclaim him the best in the world. Look de poster child for fellatio so sure about it dat he recommending his lifestyle choice to me.
I was never a fan of C. Ronaldo but I also never denied his potential. The free-kick today was real nice. He is significantly better and smarter than past seasons - but what has he proven against the great club teams of the world? Call him the 'greatest' in the WORLD ... has he outwitted and outshone the greatest on said planet? The hype dat characterizes the EPL and our exposure to FSC, BBC and Skysports making ppl believe C. Ronaldo is the best, as he scores against Reading, Birmingham, Spurs and Portsmouth. Meanwhile someone like Clarence Seedorf or Xavi doing it on every stage but we doh hear half as much
Nobody christian Ronaldo as the greatest or the best ever, all some men sayin is he has been the best during this season! Nobody talkin about last season we talkin about THIS season and THIS season he bringing it every game in all competitions! What so f^ckin hard to understand about that?! Dem players yuh mentioned aint havin a better year than Ronaldo!
is robinho the best player on his team?? ummm... maybe, maybe not.. ruud, sneijder, guti are all having impressive seasons..
has robinho given me any memorable big game performances... ummm no, not really...
is robinho more indispensable than a Kaka, Messi, Cristiano, Drogba (why is his name not in this poll) or Zlatan?? NO, NO, NO!!
anyway like i said.. the best time for this discussion is at the critical phase of the season.. not now when certain men hogging de glory by constantly boring dem shitty EPL sides..
lets wait for the latter stages of the champions league and see who steps up like Kaka did last year..
I hear dat. Men watching C. Ronaldo scoring against these same weak EPL defenses who backing-back from the ball, get excited because he score two against mighty Portsmouth's Calamity James and ready to proclaim him the best in the world. Look de poster child for fellatio so sure about it dat he recommending his lifestyle choice to me.
I was never a fan of C. Ronaldo but I also never denied his potential. The free-kick today was real nice. He is significantly better and smarter than past seasons - but what has he proven against the great club teams of the world? Call him the 'greatest' in the WORLD ... has he outwitted and outshone the greatest on said planet? The hype dat characterizes the EPL and our exposure to FSC, BBC and Skysports making ppl believe C. Ronaldo is the best, as he scores against Reading, Birmingham, Spurs and Portsmouth. Meanwhile someone like Clarence Seedorf or Xavi doing it on every stage but we doh hear half as much
Nobody christian Ronaldo as the greatest or the best ever, all some men sayin is he has been the best during this season! Nobody talkin about last season we talkin about THIS season and THIS season he bringing it every game in all competitions! What so f^ckin hard to understand about that?! Dem players yuh mentioned aint havin a better year than Ronaldo!
When I see Ronaldo score or at least put in a man-of-the-match performance against Chelsea (with Ashley cole marking him), Liverpool or Arsenal, or against the UEFA powerhouses, then I will substantiate that assessment..
Right now for me, he ent there as yet..
Almost... but not quite.
How it is people cold be making so much money?
How it is people cold be making so much money?
Sports is about marketing just not talent anymore... [\b]exponential greed, causes exponential growth sometimes. As a 25 year Man U fan now... I think that Ronaldo is not worth that fee.. :-\
How it is people cold be making so much money?
Sports is about marketing just not talent anymore... [\b]exponential greed, causes exponential growth sometimes. As a 25 year Man U fan now... I think that Ronaldo is not worth that fee.. :-\
Exactly! Dey say LA Galaxy already make back dey money on Beckham just on merchandising (jersey sales, etc.) alone.
I look at this man for the Italy game...The man is not even close to the best...Pirlo better than that at the moment...He could never be the best...Because he score some goals in England , most of which is a direct result of Rooney and Tevez hard work....people rate him...The man good but he is not even the best on the Portuguese sideGood one,somebody try that already with Adebayo,you just looking for old talk.
I look at this man for the Italy game...The man is not even close to the best...Pirlo better than that at the moment...He could never be the best...Because he score some goals in England , most of which is a direct result of Rooney and Tevez hard work....people rate him...The man good but he is not even the best on the Portuguese sideJust so ??? There have been many threads about his ability, you should look it up and post your comments on it, no need for a new thread on his ability. I know it's your opinion, but there will be many on here who will disagree, maybe he had a bad game just like Theobald and Spann. I change meh mind Theobald and Spann just ain't ready for national games.
I look at this man for the Italy game...The man is not even close to the best...Pirlo better than that at the moment...He could never be the best...Because he score some goals in England , most of which is a direct result of Rooney and Tevez hard work....people rate him...The man good but he is not even the best on the Portuguese side
I look at this man for the Italy game...The man is not even close to the best...Pirlo better than that at the moment...He could never be the best...Because he score some goals in England , most of which is a direct result of Rooney and Tevez hard work....people rate him...The man good but he is not even the best on the Portuguese side
I look at this man for the Italy game...The man is not even close to the best...Pirlo better than that at the moment...He could never be the best...Because he score some goals in England , most of which is a direct result of Rooney and Tevez hard work....people rate him...The man good but he is not even the best on the Portuguese side
u would prefer to mark ronaldo as opposed to rooney....lol
u ever played against ah man who could dribble wind, it can be very embarrasing
i believe ronaldo is harder 2 defend, jus my take
eh hehI look at this man for the Italy game...The man is not even close to the best...Pirlo better than that at the moment...He could never be the best...Because he score some goals in England , most of which is a direct result of Rooney and Tevez hard work....people rate him...The man good but he is not even the best on the Portuguese sideGood one,somebody try that already with Adebayo,you just looking for old talk.
I look at this man for the Italy game...The man is not even close to the best...Pirlo better than that at the moment...He could never be the best...Because he score some goals in England , most of which is a direct result of Rooney and Tevez hard work....people rate him...The man good but he is not even the best on the Portuguese side
Well kicker...what you go say about Messi? Messi is a man does show up against big teams...He doh have the "Ronaldinho" effect just yet on Barca but he does always play well against good teams...Cristiano influence on Man U and his country is not as the best player...He can't put a team on his back with moments of magic against good teams...Messi seem to be developing that...Messi is a big big player....Kaka is a big big player...Cristiano is a good player but not near those two in terms of influence
I look at this man for the Italy game...The man is not even close to the best...Pirlo better than that at the moment...He could never be the best...Because he score some goals in England , most of which is a direct result of Rooney and Tevez hard work....people rate him...The man good but he is not even the best on the Portuguese side
He won't win a World Cup, and he'll be hard pressed to win a
C-League, but he'll keep scoring goals against Derby and Wigan
en masse.
Then again, what did Best win?
yuh eh find it too early for Small Mag to start cussin???
who is Xavi??? :rotfl:
Dais de first time ah evah hear anybody say dat yuh does get more space and time on the ball in the EPL dan on de continent!
Dais de first time ah evah hear anybody say dat yuh does get more space and time on the ball in the EPL dan on de continent!ent... he obviously not paying attention
However, Xavi has also insinuated that Ronaldo has it easy in England as he given more time and space to showcase his talent,
"Fernando Torres is a better player over in England, with all the space he finds in front of him; here defences place themselves in their own box," he said,
Dais de first time ah evah hear anybody say dat yuh does get more space and time on the ball in the EPL dan on de continent!Well said Breds.
who is Xavi??? :rotfl:
Dais de first time ah evah hear anybody say dat yuh does get more space and time on the ball in the EPL dan on de continent!
Dais de first time ah evah hear anybody say dat yuh does get more space and time on the ball in the EPL dan on de continent!Well said Breds.
I feel they should interview diego forlan and ask him how come he aint score plenty goals at manutd with all dat space!!
ah love it!!
Dais de first time ah evah hear anybody say dat yuh does get more space and time on the ball in the EPL dan on de continent!Well said Breds.
I feel they should interview diego forlan and ask him how come he aint score plenty goals at manutd with all dat space!!
ah love it!!
is that why there is only one Spanish team in the semis ?
Dais de first time ah evah hear anybody say dat yuh does get more space and time on the ball in the EPL dan on de continent!Well said Breds.
I feel they should interview diego forlan and ask him how come he aint score plenty goals at manutd with all dat space!!
ah love it!!
who is Xavi??? :rotfl:
WHO IS YOU?!?!?
yuh eh find it too early for Small Mag to start cussin???
Why would i need to cuss... De man going nowhere for at least 4 seasons..He about to sign a new improved Contract..
Personally..I think it would be ridiculous to move away from Man Utd where it is stable..(boardroom..manager...fans)
Unless he is just about the money and goes over to Spain where the fans give up on you and destroy you if your not adapting ie Henry ...Such loyal fans who pull out white handkerchiefs when results dont go their way
I am so proud to be a Man Utd fan... Win Lose or Draw..We'll never die We'll never Die..We'll keep the Red Flag Flying High!
Dais de first time ah evah hear anybody say dat yuh does get more space and time on the ball in the EPL dan on de continent!ent... he obviously not paying attention
Xavi talkin about how high the defense plays.
When the defense high there is lots of space to run into.
He say in Spain defenders stay in their own penalty area.
In England a defender will rush in, in Spain (and Italy) they will hold back and wait for the attacker to sell themselves.
Please note what is a direct quote and what is the reporter's take on what Xavi is saying.QuoteHowever, Xavi has also insinuated that Ronaldo has it easy in England as he given more time and space to showcase his talent,Quote"Fernando Torres is a better player over in England, with all the space he finds in front of him; here defences place themselves in their own box," he said,
yuh eh find it too early for Small Mag to start cussin???
Why would i need to cuss... De man going nowhere for at least 4 seasons..He about to sign a new improved Contract..
Personally..I think it would be ridiculous to move away from Man Utd where it is stable..(boardroom..manager...fans)
Unless he is just about the money and goes over to Spain where the fans give up on you and destroy you if your not adapting ie Henry ...Such loyal fans who pull out white handkerchiefs when results dont go their way
I am so proud to be a Man Utd fan... Win Lose or Draw..We'll never die We'll never Die..We'll keep the Red Flag Flying High!
careful Small mag. Forlan, Veron, Bartez, Heinze, Yorke and others all suffered from fans at ManU. Trust me I heard it myself
yuh eh find it too early for Small Mag to start cussin???
Why would i need to cuss... De man going nowhere for at least 4 seasons..He about to sign a new improved Contract..
Personally..I think it would be ridiculous to move away from Man Utd where it is stable..(boardroom..manager...fans)
Unless he is just about the money and goes over to Spain where the fans give up on you and destroy you if your not adapting ie Henry ...Such loyal fans who pull out white handkerchiefs when results dont go their way
I am so proud to be a Man Utd fan... Win Lose or Draw..We'll never die We'll never Die..We'll keep the Red Flag Flying High!
careful Small mag. Forlan, Veron, Bartez, Heinze, Yorke and others all suffered from fans at ManU. Trust me I heard it myself
yeah they get a bit of stick to wake them up... but We wouldnt go to the extremities Real and Barca do..
I still backing Spurs, Newcastle and Villa to beat Villareall, Atletico and anybody else Spain have to offer outside Real and Barca.
I still backing Spurs, Newcastle and Villa to beat Villareall, Atletico and anybody else Spain have to offer outside Real and Barca.
I still backing Spurs, Newcastle and Villa to beat Villareall, Atletico and anybody else Spain have to offer outside Real and Barca.
You joking....Same Spurs who couldn't beat Wigan this last weekend? Same Newcastle that battle toe to toe with Sunderland? .....You joking....
You just callin' names because if you ever saw Villarreal or Atletico play you'd take that back.....Esp Villarreal this season- they are tops....Both Villarreal & Atletico have beaten Barca this year.....
It's all speculation, but it's difficult to imagine Spurs or Villa finishing 3rd in the Spainsh table this season....
I still backing Spurs, Newcastle and Villa to beat Villareall, Atletico and anybody else Spain have to offer outside Real and Barca.
You joking....Same Spurs who couldn't beat Wigan this last weekend? Same Newcastle that battle toe to toe with Sunderland? .....You joking....
You just callin' names because if you ever saw Villarreal or Atletico play you'd take that back.....Esp Villarreal this season- they are tops....Both Villarreal & Atletico have beaten Barca this year.....
It's all speculation, but it's difficult to imagine Spurs or Villa finishing 3rd in the Spainsh table this season....
this reminds me of when i was in london a couple years back and there was a champions league qualifier between everton and villareal..
no matter how much i try to tell men that villareal will handle everton, nobody was hearing me on that. Needless to say, villareal easily dealt with everton to progress to the champs league and go on to reach the semi finals.
When you look at the teams outside the top 4 this year in the EPL; everton, spurs, villa, portsmouth, man city.. I'm sorry but them sides cannot touch Atletico madrid, valencia, sevilla... and would get trouble with teams like getafe and real zaragoza..
the quality of the EPL is saturated in their top 4.
I just find it funny that Xavi coming out with that comment in the year that only one spainsh team make it to semi
PFA Premier League Team of the Year:
David James (Portsmouth), Bacary Sagna (Arsenal), Rio Ferdinand (Man Utd), Nemanja Vidic (Man Utd), Gael Clichy (Arsenal), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal), Cristiano Ronaldo (Man Utd), Ashley Young (Aston Villa), Emmanuel Adebayor (Arsenal), Fernando Torres (Liverpool).
The boy was always going to win this title as he is the "World Best" title, so, good for him and his fans. Still ain't the best player in the world IMO, but in a world where flash, pizzaz, numbers and results carries more weight than actual substance, it's impossible to argue against his achievements this year. Can't agree with Jose that manboo have to be champions to validate his title, though.........wouldn'ta pick sagna before Michael Essien either.
The boy was always going to win this title as he is the "World Best" title, so, good for him and his fans. Still ain't the best player in the world IMO, but in a world where flash, pizzaz, numbers and results carries more weight than actual substance, it's impossible to argue against his achievements this year. Can't agree with Jose that manboo have to be champions to validate his title, though.........wouldn'ta pick sagna before Michael Essien either.  Â
what you mean by that?
PFA Premier League Team of the Year:
David James (Portsmouth), Bacary Sagna (Arsenal), Rio Ferdinand (Man Utd), Nemanja Vidic (Man Utd), Gael Clichy (Arsenal), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal), Cristiano Ronaldo (Man Utd), Ashley Young (Aston Villa), Emmanuel Adebayor (Arsenal), Fernando Torres (Liverpool).
My XI would have been
Van Der Sar
Sagna
Rio
Vidic
Evra
Ronaldo
Fabregas
Gerrard
J.Cole
Torres
Adebayor
The boy was always going to win this title as he is the "World Best" title, so, good for him and his fans. Still ain't the best player in the world IMO, but in a world where flash, pizzaz, numbers and results carries more weight than actual substance, it's impossible to argue against his achievements this year. Can't agree with Jose that manboo have to be champions to validate his title, though.........wouldn'ta pick sagna before Michael Essien either.  Â
what you mean by that?
most manu fans (not necessarily on the forum, either) of cronaldo point to his high goal tally "for a winger" as the main thesis for labeling him as the best, as well as the fact that manu wins so many games and are reigning epl champs.
I can appreciate his obvious talent, ball control and speed all of which fits very well into manu's mainly counterattacking style that works so well for them. That style of play and his freedom to roam wherever he wants also helps his goalscoring, but I'm not trying to take that away from him. I find his overall style of play to be predictible and thoughtless most of the time (except when he's "thinking" "free kick" or "penalty") and he is not as creative as the likes of Kaka or Ro_Ro or Messi.
I still don't think he's covering all the bases that make him the best football player in the world. He has gotten the best/most results or had the best season. But he isnmt the best IMO.
The boy was always going to win this title as he is the "World Best" title, so, good for him and his fans. Still ain't the best player in the world IMO, but in a world where flash, pizzaz, numbers and results carries more weight than actual substance, it's impossible to argue against his achievements this year. Can't agree with Jose that manboo have to be champions to validate his title, though.........wouldn'ta pick sagna before Michael Essien either.  Â
what you mean by that?
most manu fans (not necessarily on the forum, either) of cronaldo point to his high goal tally "for a winger" as the main thesis for labeling him as the best, as well as the fact that manu wins so many games and are reigning epl champs.
I can appreciate his obvious talent, ball control and speed all of which fits very well into manu's mainly counterattacking style that works so well for them. That style of play and his freedom to roam wherever he wants also helps his goalscoring, but I'm not trying to take that away from him. I find his overall style of play to be predictible and thoughtless most of the time (except when he's "thinking" "free kick" or "penalty") and he is not as creative as the likes of Kaka or Ro_Ro or Messi.
I still don't think he's covering all the bases that make him the best football player in the world. He has gotten the best/most results or had the best season. But he isnmt the best IMO.
He has been the best player in the world this year. and i REAL hate him. this is a RESULTS world. Kaka or Messi? if you basing "the best player of the year (this year)" on reputation, career or previous seasons, they would win it every year. this award isn't based on "predictibility and thoughtfulness" its based on how important you are to your team and where you take them, ala TITLES. just curious as to who you would give the award to Mango and what your justification would be?
Remember that these awards are voted on by the players, so its not all about ability. They play against these guys and their personalities become part of the judgement process.............
Remember that these awards are voted on by the players, so its not all about ability. They play against these guys and their personalities become part of the judgement process.............
persona will always be part of the judgement process, but I can't see how journalists and fans could have a better grip on ability than fellow players? awards given by those who actually play the game and see things on a more technical level...who know what it is like to lose sleep cuz they have to face you tomorrow, or who studying if to move on to a next club cuz they have no idea how they could displace you from the starting 11...those are the ones whose votes carry most weight imo. journalist and fans will tell you Riquelme slow..players will tell you they can't get near him. there will always be a measure of subjectivity, and personal awards are just a big pappy show. but i can't believe you watering down the award cuz it was given by players..if anything, that gives it more cred
Remember that these awards are voted on by the players, so its not all about ability. They play against these guys and their personalities become part of the judgement process.............
persona will always be part of the judgement process, but I can't see how journalists and fans could have a better grip on ability than fellow players? awards given by those who actually play the game and see things on a more technical level...who know what it is like to lose sleep cuz they have to face you tomorrow, or who studying if to move on to a next club cuz they have no idea how they could displace you from the starting 11...those are the ones whose votes carry most weight imo. journalist and fans will tell you Riquelme slow..players will tell you they can't get near him. there will always be a measure of subjectivity, and personal awards are just a big pappy show. but i can't believe you watering down the award cuz it was given by players..if anything, that gives it more cred
Let's not forget that Stern John has more goals than Ricardo Buller, and with less support around him.
Prime example: Cannavaro won the award in '06 when clearly he didn't deserve it.
Prime example: Cannavaro won the award in '06 when clearly he didn't deserve it.
May I ask who did, in your opinion?
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Ronaldo: I Don't Know If I'll Stay
Cristiano Ronaldo has remained evasive about his future with Manchester United, sparking speculation that he could leave as early as this summer.
http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=679032
Ummm...yeah...how many of your players have left ManU to come to Real?
Uh huh.
From United fans blog:To go to a bigger team that also wins.
1. Why leave a winning team?
United look set to win
2. No.1 fansSo Madrid fans expect a higher standard of play than Man U fans expect, that's a good thing.
English supporters are far less fickle that our Spanish counterparts .... you can guarantee one bad game at the Bernabeau and the white handkerchiefs will be out.
3. Sense of stabilityYet players still go there and Madrid are still successful.
While Fergie has been in control of the club for 28 years, Real tend to change managers by the season. They've sacked managers that have won them the league title and Champions League during the season and this constant upheaval often leaves players feeling confused and uncertain.
4. Making historyBlah blah George Best blah blah blah.
5. Premier League is the place to beBy tempo that suits Ronaldo's game they mean the crappy defenders who sell their souls at the drop of a shoulder.
The Premier League is the greatest league in the world. It's played at a tempo that suits Ronaldo's game, attracts the best young players
From United fans blog:To go to a bigger team that also wins.
1. Why leave a winning team?
United look set to winQuote2. No.1 fansSo Madrid fans expect a higher standard of play than Man U fans expect, that's a good thing.
English supporters are far less fickle that our Spanish counterparts .... you can guarantee one bad game at the Bernabeau and the white handkerchiefs will be out.Quote3. Sense of stabilityYet players still go there and Madrid are still successful.
While Fergie has been in control of the club for 28 years, Real tend to change managers by the season. They've sacked managers that have won them the league title and Champions League during the season and this constant upheaval often leaves players feeling confused and uncertain.
Again, it's a higher standard than Man U are accustomed to.Quote4. Making historyBlah blah George Best blah blah blah.
Making history at the club that possesses the greatest football history would be the pinnacle of any player's careerQuote5. Premier League is the place to beBy tempo that suits Ronaldo's game they mean the crappy defenders who sell their souls at the drop of a shoulder.
The Premier League is the greatest league in the world. It's played at a tempo that suits Ronaldo's game, attracts the best young players
Best young players????
Like who?
leave Toppa and that goal.com website nuh
let him post articles left and right
I eh know when he go realise is ah tabloid site and it is not to be trusted
Ummm...yeah...how many of your players have left ManU to come to Real?
Uh huh.
Firstly i wouldn't trade any player on United for a Madrid player..Maybe Saha for Ruud thats it...
Ruud- Discarded: Still claims EPL and Utd(club and fans)are better
Becks- Discarded and Money: Always says United Fans and Club are better and his time there(Utd) was his most enjoyable of his footballing career
Heinze- Discarded..Was going to Liverpool..but due to arbitration ruling Went to Madrid..expect him to leave This Summer...also talks about Utd fans and EPL being better...
I will post my facts when i gather the articles of all 3 claims...so dont think is just talk...Only yall do that
All had better stints at United... and all were in their Prime...
Hopefully if CR7 ever comes to yall he will be past his prime... Cuz yall dont deserve his talent...That goes for every other Footballing genius out there...Real Madrid do not deserve the creme de la creme any more.
leave Toppa and that goal.com website nuh
let him post articles left and right
I eh know when he go realise is ah tabloid site and it is not to be trusted
leave Toppa and that goal.com website nuh
let him post articles left and right
I eh know when he go realise is ah tabloid site and it is not to be trusted
She..apparently...I would say Him is a bit more accurate though
Ummm...yeah...how many of your players have left ManU to come to Real?
Uh huh.
leave Toppa and that goal.com website nuh
let him post articles left and right
I eh know when he go realise is ah tabloid site and it is not to be trusted
leave Toppa and that goal.com website nuh
let him post articles left and right
I eh know when he go realise is ah tabloid site and it is not to be trusted
She..apparently...I would say Him is a bit more accurate though
leave Toppa and that goal.com website nuh
let him post articles left and right
I eh know when he go realise is ah tabloid site and it is not to be trusted
She..apparently...I would say Him is a bit more accurate though
Are you intimidated?
leave Toppa and that goal.com website nuh
let him post articles left and right
I eh know when he go realise is ah tabloid site and it is not to be trusted
She..apparently...I would say Him is a bit more accurate though
Are you intimidated?
:-* pssst :devil:
leave Toppa and that goal.com website nuh
let him post articles left and right
I eh know when he go realise is ah tabloid site and it is not to be trusted
She..apparently...I would say Him is a bit more accurate though
Are you intimidated?
Real has yet to pull a United player away from the club, they just good to pay big money for United's hand-me-downs.
leave Toppa and that goal.com website nuh
let him post articles left and right
I eh know when he go realise is ah tabloid site and it is not to be trusted
I resent that. Goal.com is as credible as they come, thank you very much!
If Ronaldo plays his entire career at United he will break every individual playing record. He will be more than a legend.
Games, league goals, total goals, wins.
For trophies and titles it will be hard to match Giggs but if United win the CL this year he would probably be the youngest player to have a EPL, FA Cup, League Cup and CL title.Ummm...yeah...how many of your players have left ManU to come to Real?
Uh huh.
The ones that Ferguson was ready to get rid of i.e. Ruud and Beckham. Madrid wasn't even Heinze first choice.
Real has yet to pull a United player away from the club, they just good to pay big money for United's hand-me-downs.
Real has yet to pull a United player away from the club, they just good to pay big money for United's hand-me-downs.
Because Man U does hardly ever have players that Real want.
JDB yuh's meh boy....let's not start that talk nuh.... :D Especially since it's not like Madrid players go flocking to Old Trafford either....so tell meh where we going with this one ;D
Real has yet to pull a United player away from the club, they just good to pay big money for United's hand-me-downs.
Because Man U does hardly ever have players that Real want.
Yet they take 3 in the last 6 years. hhmmmnn?JDB yuh's meh boy....let's not start that talk nuh.... :D Especially since it's not like Madrid players go flocking to Old Trafford either....so tell meh where we going with this one ;D
Well I could say that United not interested in any Real players but I just on talk don't study it.
Suppose Sneijder dont want to go? are they going to force him?
what is ungrateful about wanting to move on. people change employers for all types of reasons just as employers change staff as and when they want.
Yorke, Beckham, Van Nistelroy. They were all culled by Fergie.
Payback is a biatch.........
what is ungrateful about wanting to move on. people change employers for all types of reasons just as employers change staff as and when they want.
Yorke, Beckham, Van Nistelroy. They were all culled by Fergie.
Payback is a biatch.........
sssssshhhhhhhh!!!!! Hush, dred, doh say dat!! Dize blasphemy!!! It have some rel company men and apex predators on dis forum who go rel come and tell yuh 'bout yuh johnny-come-lately self. You eh supposed to comeon here wit yuh lil' nine posts and have a divergent opinion. Hurry up and toe the line before yuh get cuss-up rel bad. :devil:
what is ungrateful about wanting to move on. people change employers for all types of reasons just as employers change staff as and when they want.
Yorke, Beckham, Van Nistelroy. They were all culled by Fergie.
Payback is a biatch.........
what is ungrateful about wanting to move on. people change employers for all types of reasons just as employers change staff as and when they want.
Yorke, Beckham, Van Nistelroy. They were all culled by Fergie.
Payback is a biatch.........
sssssshhhhhhhh!!!!! Hush, dred, doh say dat!! Dize blasphemy!!! It have some rel company men and apex predators on dis forum who go rel come and tell yuh 'bout yuh johnny-come-lately self. You eh supposed to comeon here wit yuh lil' nine posts and have a divergent opinion. Hurry up and toe the line before yuh get cuss-up rel bad. :devil:MU HA HA ;D
for those who dont know: MU HA HA = MAN U HATERS ASSOCIATION of HOME and AWAY
of which, Mango Chow is the CHOW and President.
CHOW=chief heckling officer of the world ;D :D
what is ungrateful about wanting to move on. people change employers for all types of reasons just as employers change staff as and when they want.
Yorke, Beckham, Van Nistelroy. They were all culled by Fergie.
Payback is a biatch.........
what is ungrateful about wanting to move on. people change employers for all types of reasons just as employers change staff as and when they want.
Yorke, Beckham, Van Nistelroy. They were all culled by Fergie.
Payback is a biatch.........
but what d cudders month :devil: Payback what payback . doh rile meh up eh ;D :devil:
what is ungrateful about wanting to move on. people change employers for all types of reasons just as employers change staff as and when they want.
Yorke, Beckham, Van Nistelroy. They were all culled by Fergie.
Payback is a biatch.........
but what d cudders month :devil: Payback what payback . doh rile meh up eh ;D :devil:
f**k Ronaldo.... how much winners medals has he achieved outside Manchester United.....
what is ungrateful about wanting to move on. people change employers for all types of reasons just as employers change staff as and when they want.
Yorke, Beckham, Van Nistelroy. They were all culled by Fergie.
Payback is a biatch.........
but what d cudders month :devil: Payback what payback . doh rile meh up eh ;D :devil:
f**k Ronaldo.... how much winners medals has he achieved outside Manchester United.....
exactly
what is ungrateful about wanting to move on. people change employers for all types of reasons just as employers change staff as and when they want.
Yorke, Beckham, Van Nistelroy. They were all culled by Fergie.
Payback is a biatch.........
but what d cudders month :devil: Payback what payback . doh rile meh up eh ;D :devil:
f**k Ronaldo.... how much winners medals has he achieved outside Manchester United.....
exactly
Well done Scolari, encouraging the boy to realize his dreams..
Chelsea should give him a bonus. :D
what is ungrateful about wanting to move on. people change employers for all types of reasons just as employers change staff as and when they want.
Yorke, Beckham, Van Nistelroy. They were all culled by Fergie.
Payback is a biatch.........
but what d cudders month :devil: Payback what payback . doh rile meh up eh ;D :devil:
f**k Ronaldo.... how much winners medals has he achieved outside Manchester United.....
How allyuh could care about these flicking men when we state of football in a crisis situation?You can care and have in interest in two things or more at the same time brother.
Wish Ronaldo the best,
How allyuh could care about these flicking men when we state of football in a crisis situation?
How allyuh could care about these flicking men when we state of football in a crisis situation?You can care and have in interest in two things or more at the same time brother.
lol if he goes i wanna see united retain the titles
lol if he goes i wanna see united retain the titlesstudy wuh goin on in yuh own backyard fuss.doh look in de neighbour yard.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9RsQg1dnwiY
check it out
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9RsQg1dnwiY
check it out
LOL, Funny enough my friend in de UK say how CR7 afarid of de Gaffer and he only playing games...The thing is dat de gaffer say dat if he want to go he could go......No BOY BIGGER DAN DE TEAM
MANU 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
LOL, Funny enough my friend in de UK say how CR7 afarid of de Gaffer and he only playing games...The thing is dat de gaffer say dat if he want to go he could go......No BOY BIGGER DAN DE TEAM
MANU 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
I doubt very much that Ferguson said 'if he wants to go, let him go' or else he would have been gone already.
Part of me thinks that Ronaldo is using this situation to get a pay increase from United and its rumor that is becoming more and more persistent by the day....
The only thing is, he's the highest paid player at the club and got a salary increase less than a year ago. I doubt he'll get another.
Real Madrid are only showing themselves up for the classless outfit they always have been.
- United say Ronaldo not for sale
- Calderon does not want to damage relationship with United and it would be 'impossible' to sign him at the moment
- Schuster says that he wants Ronaldo
- Calderon says 'We'll buy him for 75 million'
- United get upset and insist he's not for sale
- Calderon says 'United can't stop him from leaving'
- United complain to FIFA
- FIFA do nothing
- Calderon says he will 'not get involved'
- Calderon, in an amazing u-turn says that Ronaldo will sign for Madrid
- United rebuff any approach
- No formal negotiations have taken place between United or Ronaldo. No contract is on the table.
- Calderon says Ronaldo will be unveiled as Madrids new signing on July 7th...even though no negotiations have taken place with United or Ronaldo.
Real Madrid. They're a circus, its no wonder they are hated throughout Spain.
Small Mag and the rest of dem in a couple of weeks.
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When I stated in another thread that Real Madrid are making some serious illegal 'tapping', I was shouted down.
Now, Real Madrid are saying that they will UNVEIL Ronaldo on July 7th as their new signing despite the fact that they have not formally entered negotiations with the club or the player nor have they any deal in place.
But FIFA says that all of this is ok.
Additionally, Madrid are now saying that they would be UNWILLING to pay 75 million.
This is all going to blow up in someones face and it won't be United's.
Steups. From the time he with he psuedo drama queen self start being coy...i was selling he ass and milkin that transfer for all the money i could get. Let he and ruud lime lil bit and see how it goes. 100 mil? you know wha i could do with that on the transfer market?
Steups. From the time he with he psuedo drama queen self start being coy...i was selling he ass and milkin that transfer for all the money i could get. Let he and ruud lime lil bit and see how it goes. 100 mil? you know wha i could do with that on the transfer market?
Are you Fergie in disguise?
Steups. From the time he with he psuedo drama queen self start being coy...i was selling he ass and milkin that transfer for all the money i could get. Let he and ruud lime lil bit and see how it goes. 100 mil? you know wha i could do with that on the transfer market?
Are you Fergie in disguise?
Actually....when i arguing football in school...men does call me fergie. This was the stance i actually expected him to take at the beginning of this whole saga. I wouldnt have said a word when he dropping hints....but before he leave the team hadda authorise it..and a player like that not going for less than 100 mil....give me robinho to sweeten the deal......and i done.
When I stated in another thread that Real Madrid are making some serious illegal 'tapping', I was shouted down.
Now, Real Madrid are saying that they will UNVEIL Ronaldo on July 7th as their new signing despite the fact that they have not formally entered negotiations with the club or the player nor have they any deal in place.
But FIFA says that all of this is ok.
Additionally, Madrid are now saying that they would be UNWILLING to pay 75 million.
This is all going to blow up in someones face and it won't be United's.
You are perfectly right. Thats why I cannot respect those 2 clowns Sepp Blabber the "Michelle" Platini. They continuously attack EPL teams for how they go about things, but remains silent as Real Madrid, Barca and the Milans do the same thing.
As an Empire representative (Manu don't have fans ... those are for lower tier teams, Arsenal, Liverpool Real MAdrid), I say take the money along with Robinho and Sneijer and let Ronaldo go. The system that the Empire uses fits his style, Real doesn't play that way. He is in for a Ruud awakening.
how f**king sad are they, let the man go and keep yuh dignity...
i could never stoop as low as to beg that arrogant asshole to stay at my club.
if it's what he want yuh cyah really stop him.
Man U need to forget Cristiano and concentrate on grooming more players for Real Madrid to buy.
Man U need to forget Cristiano and concentrate on grooming more players for Real Madrid to buy.
Man U need to forget Cristiano and concentrate on grooming more players for Real Madrid to buy.
Real Madrid need to forget Ronaldo and concentrate on how they are going to get further than than the quarter final stage of the Champions League next season.
Millions of Euros spunked away over the last four years and they still haven't figured out how...
Man U need to forget Cristiano and concentrate on grooming more players for Real Madrid to buy.
Real Madrid need to forget Ronaldo and concentrate on how they are going to get further than than the quarter final stage of the Champions League next season.
Millions of Euros spunked away over the last four years and they still haven't figured out how...
Man U need to forget Cristiano and concentrate on grooming more players for Real Madrid to buy.
Real Madrid need to forget Ronaldo and concentrate on how they are going to get further than than the quarter final stage of the Champions League next season.
Millions of Euros spunked away over the last four years and they still haven't figured out how...
:rotfl:
Aaaaaahhhhh boy..............war START!! doh worry, oh Venerable One. Allyuh go have to be figuring out de same ting fuh de next.............FIVE years!! (ent, Giggsy?)
:yawning:
Man U need to forget Cristiano and concentrate on grooming more players for Real Madrid to buy.
Real Madrid need to forget Ronaldo and concentrate on how they are going to get further than than the quarter final stage of the Champions League next season.
Millions of Euros spunked away over the last four years and they still haven't figured out how...
they'll do that by signing Ronaldo.
:yawning:
Doh worry, a certain Chelski fan stated that United would not win another Champions League in the next 5 years.
:yawning:
Doh worry, a certain Chelski fan stated that United would not win another Champions League in the next 5 years.
In the same way that Chelsea have never won it at all?
:yawning:
Doh worry, a certain Chelski fan stated that United would not win another Champions League in the next 5 years.
In the same way that Chelsea have never won it at all?
:yawning:
Doh worry, a certain Chelski fan stated that United would not win another Champions League in the next 5 years.
In the same way that Chelsea have never won it at all?
good one :devil:
:yawning:
Doh worry, a certain Chelski fan stated that United would not win another Champions League in the next 5 years.
In the same way that Chelsea have never won it at all?
Chelsea time coming.....Big Phil will see to that.
nah.....i go feel real hate for he dread....i doh really want to see him play for ManUtd anymore.
Even if its the press just spreading propaganda....he coulda still come out and say he staying. So salts for he.
nah.....i go feel real hate for he dread....i doh really want to see him play for ManUtd anymore.
Even if its the press just spreading propaganda....he coulda still come out and say he staying. So salts for he.
nah.....i go feel real hate for he dread....i doh really want to see him play for ManUtd anymore.
Even if its the press just spreading propaganda....he coulda still come out and say he staying. So salts for he.
Well said, he played to many damn games! So ah hope Fergie make him sweat. Giggsy for life is the name that will be always be on the back of my jersey and only the Umbro/Sharp one. No Nike or AIG for me.
thats exactly how i feel right now.......if he stays i think he'll be a distraction an we dont need that going into
training camp, i have ah feeling some of d players already feels betrayed by him
nah.....i go feel real hate for he dread....i doh really want to see him play for ManUtd anymore.
Even if its the press just spreading propaganda....he coulda still come out and say he staying. So salts for he.Well said, he played to many damn games! So ah hope Fergie make him sweat. Giggsy for life is the name that will be always be on the back of my jersey and only the Umbro/Sharp one. No Nike or AIG for me.thats exactly how i feel right now.......if he stays i think he'll be a distraction an we dont need that going into
training camp, i have ah feeling some of d players already feels betrayed by him
chow, before yuh take yuh break do meh ah favor please..
just catalogue these comments listed above for future reference..
i'll need to be retrieving these sentiments when ronaldo score 5 goals on the trot and giggsy, reddevils and sammy start wining low like dem clothespin gyul and dem..
oh and don't forget to pick up the cones too eh... ;D
Terry talking sense...
Ronaldo out for ah next month and then it go take him a next month or so to kick back into top gear.. Plus this is her swansong year and she studying Real Madrid next season.
Nani is a goat and would be better put to use for entertainment as a human halftime show.
If allyuh dont sign berbatov, then allyuh going with 2 forwards for the whole season, none of whom showing they could give yuh a 20 goal season despite all their remarkable qualities.
Fergie will want to sweat his boy Neville over Wes Brown (who prove himself last season) and it go hurt allyuh mark meh words.
Allyuh had Superman in allyuh side for the whole of last season and still scrape allyuh titles on the last day of the season and on 1 penalty kick slip. This time chelsea had to deal with losing Mourinho, African Nations and injuries across the board.
If allyuh feel Man. United repeating this year then I have land in Florida to sell.
This is Chelsea season!! :devil:
I feel Nani will definitely do better this year....and next year may be as good as CRonaldo.At what paying for hoes????
Keane's gut says Chelsea will pip Man Utd to title
By Soccernet
Roy Keane, the former Manchester United skipper and Old Trafford folk hero, has tipped Chelsea to prevent United from securing back-to-back Premier League titles.
On the eve of the new season the Sunderland manager has revealed his 'gut feeling' that Chelsea will prove to be too strong this term, not least because of the addition of new coach Luis Felipe Scolari, but also because United are lacking a striker.
United fans may wish to dismiss Keane's prophecy, but be warned: he got it right last year. Keane said: 'For me, it's Chelsea this year. I always felt that United would do it last year but I fancy Chelsea this time.'
Explaining his theory Keane added: 'There's no African Cup of Nations in January, they've got a new manager, they've bought one or two players and, for all the ups and downs, last year they still nearly nicked it.'
Last season Chelsea's title push was undermined by the departure of key squad players to the month-long African competition, including Michael Essien and Didier Drogba, while uncertainty over the future of then coach Avram Grant did not help.
'If United get a top striker in then they've got a chance. But my gut feeling this year would still be Chelsea,' says Keane who won seven Premier League titles with United between 1994 and 2003.
Manchester United do start the new season a little light in the striker department with Wayne Rooney only just ready to return after contracting a virus he picked up on a pre-season tour in Nigeria, Louis Saha still injured and last season's 42-goal hero Cristiano Ronaldo recovering from ankle surgery; leaving Carlos Tevez and youngster Frazier Campbell as the club's only fit forwards.
Over the summer United have been labouring to prise Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham Hotspur and a deal finally looked to be nearing this week after both side's appeared to have compromised over the 27-year-old Bulgarian's transfer fee.
However, reports of renewed interest from Barcelona could yet scupper United's approach, with Spurs boss Juande Ramos thought to be unwilling to sell Berbatov to a Premier League rival.
Just another ex United player who is bitter because he will no longer experience the type of success he experienced with United! LOL!Giggsy11, ya Kicksy no arse :rotfl: :rotfl:
Just another ex United player who is bitter because he will no longer experience the type of success he experienced with United! LOL!
Just another ex United player who is bitter because he will no longer experience the type of success he experienced with United! LOL!
Men quakin... 8)
Madness.. lol
at least Chelsea does pretend they have a youth system and a long term plan for self sufficiency..
these fellahs eh rampin nice at all!
oh what it must be like to be an upcoming youth player in the Man City youth system now. Move aside Michael Johnson and Stephen Ireland!
The man wrap he arm round the Sanchez gyul waist yes.
I wonder hwt going on behind Demi Noore back there.
The man wrap he arm round the Sanchez gyul waist yes.
I wonder hwt going on behind Demi Noore back there.
FIFPro World XI:
Goalkeeper – Iker Casillas (Spain/ Real Madrid)
Defenders – Sergio Ramos (Spain/ Real Madrid), John Terry (England/ Chelsea), Carles Puyol (Spain/ Barcelona) and Rio Ferdinand (England/ Manchester United)
Midfielders - Steven Gerrard (England/ Liverpool), Xavi (Spain/ Barcelona) and Ricardo Kaká (Brazil/AC Milan).
Forwards – Lionel Messi (Argentina/ Barcelona), Fernando Torres (Spain/ Liverpool), and Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/ Manchester United).
FIFPro World XI:
Goalkeeper – Iker Casillas (Spain/ Real Madrid)
Defenders – Sergio Ramos (Spain/ Real Madrid), John Terry (England/ Chelsea), Carles Puyol (Spain/ Barcelona) and Rio Ferdinand (England/ Manchester United)
Midfielders - Steven Gerrard (England/ Liverpool), Xavi (Spain/ Barcelona) and Ricardo Kaká (Brazil/AC Milan).
Forwards – Lionel Messi (Argentina/ Barcelona), Fernando Torres (Spain/ Liverpool), and Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/ Manchester United).
Well Deserved for Ronaldo
but my changes in that XI would be : Van der Sar for Casillas....Evra for Pulyol and Lampard for Kaka
FIFPro World XI:
Goalkeeper – Iker Casillas (Spain/ Real Madrid)
Defenders – Sergio Ramos (Spain/ Real Madrid), John Terry (England/ Chelsea), Carles Puyol (Spain/ Barcelona) and Rio Ferdinand (England/ Manchester United)
Midfielders - Steven Gerrard (England/ Liverpool), Xavi (Spain/ Barcelona) and Ricardo Kaká (Brazil/AC Milan).
Forwards – Lionel Messi (Argentina/ Barcelona), Fernando Torres (Spain/ Liverpool), and Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/ Manchester United).
Well Deserved for Ronaldo
but my changes in that XI would be : Van der Sar for Casillas....Evra for Pulyol and Lampard for Kaka
Lampard for Kaka? You on drugs.
FIFPro World XI:
Goalkeeper – Iker Casillas (Spain/ Real Madrid)
Defenders – Sergio Ramos (Spain/ Real Madrid), John Terry (England/ Chelsea), Carles Puyol (Spain/ Barcelona) and Rio Ferdinand (England/ Manchester United)
Midfielders - Steven Gerrard (England/ Liverpool), Xavi (Spain/ Barcelona) and Ricardo Kaká (Brazil/AC Milan).
Forwards – Lionel Messi (Argentina/ Barcelona), Fernando Torres (Spain/ Liverpool), and Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/ Manchester United).
Well Deserved for Ronaldo
but my changes in that XI would be : Van der Sar for Casillas....Evra for Pulyol and Lampard for Kaka
Rio Ferdinand ??? ??? you have to be joking.
When did Ronaldo become a forward? That alone show they eh know what they doing.
What did Kaka do to deserve that spot on the team?....he was awful during the 07-08 season
FIFPro World XI:
Goalkeeper – Iker Casillas (Spain/ Real Madrid)
Defenders – Sergio Ramos (Spain/ Real Madrid), John Terry (England/ Chelsea), Carles Puyol (Spain/ Barcelona) and Rio Ferdinand (England/ Manchester United)
Midfielders - Steven Gerrard (England/ Liverpool), Xavi (Spain/ Barcelona) and Ricardo Kaká (Brazil/AC Milan).
Forwards – Lionel Messi (Argentina/ Barcelona), Fernando Torres (Spain/ Liverpool), and Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/ Manchester United).
Well Deserved for Ronaldo
but my changes in that XI would be : Van der Sar for Casillas....Evra for Pulyol and Lampard for Kaka
Congratulations Ronaldo..you did very well last season...Its definately speaks volumes in that the English Premier League is finally receiving accolades and this award is one of them. Not too long ago, players only based in Europe were getting the award..so well done I say....
Come on Liverpool.....
FIFPro World XI:
Goalkeeper – Iker Casillas (Spain/ Real Madrid)
Defenders – Sergio Ramos (Spain/ Real Madrid), John Terry (England/ Chelsea), Carles Puyol (Spain/ Barcelona) and Rio Ferdinand (England/ Manchester United)
Midfielders - Steven Gerrard (England/ Liverpool), Xavi (Spain/ Barcelona) and Ricardo Kaká (Brazil/AC Milan).
Forwards – Lionel Messi (Argentina/ Barcelona), Fernando Torres (Spain/ Liverpool), and Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/ Manchester United).
Well Deserved for Ronaldo
but my changes in that XI would be : Van der Sar for Casillas....Evra for Pulyol and Lampard for Kaka
Lampard for kaka...art thou mad?
FIFPro World XI:
Goalkeeper – Iker Casillas (Spain/ Real Madrid)
Defenders – Sergio Ramos (Spain/ Real Madrid), John Terry (England/ Chelsea), Carles Puyol (Spain/ Barcelona) and Rio Ferdinand (England/ Manchester United)
Midfielders - Steven Gerrard (England/ Liverpool), Xavi (Spain/ Barcelona) and Ricardo Kaká (Brazil/AC Milan).
Forwards – Lionel Messi (Argentina/ Barcelona), Fernando Torres (Spain/ Liverpool), and Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/ Manchester United).
Well Deserved for Ronaldo
but my changes in that XI would be : Van der Sar for Casillas....Evra for Pulyol and Lampard for Kaka
Kaka is a mid fielder???
I late to this but here's my take.
Lampard had a stop start season last year as did John Terry.
The Question to ask is why John Terry there, not Rio. Rio had his best season ever last year, he was a rock throughout.
Lampard for Kaka? Really now. I don't believe that Kaka was that good last year but allyuh really saying that 4 Englishmen should be there when England couldn't even qualify for a Tournament.
The list obvioulsy take Euro Championships and CL into account but Lampard...no way. Fabregas deserve a spot before him, although Arsenal not making the CL semis probably hurt him he was a Euro winner too.
Congrats to Ronaldo, well deserved.
What a waste of an award.
What a waste of an award.
When do they announce the FIFA World Player of the Year ?
I suppose he'll win that as well, but just curious as to when that gets announced.
When do they announce the FIFA World Player of the Year ?
I suppose he'll win that as well, but just curious as to when that gets announced.
I was thinking about that myself. I have a feeling he will also get that award. Even though, with the Euro in 08 and Ronaldo not being at his best in that competition, maybe Xavi might get the nod
When do they announce the FIFA World Player of the Year ?
I suppose he'll win that as well, but just curious as to when that gets announced.
I was thinking about that myself. I have a feeling he will also get that award. Even though, with the Euro in 08 and Ronaldo not being at his best in that competition, maybe Xavi might get the nod
it would be absolute robbery if Ronaldo doesnt win it
FIFA would look like alot of jokers
yea...but how want senna....senna pod ??/
who casts the votes for FIFA World Player of the Year?
When do they announce the FIFA World Player of the Year ?
I suppose he'll win that as well, but just curious as to when that gets announced.
I was thinking about that myself. I have a feeling he will also get that award. Even though, with the Euro in 08 and Ronaldo not being at his best in that competition, maybe Xavi might get the nod
who casts the votes for FIFA World Player of the Year?
National team coaches and captains.
who casts the votes for FIFA World Player of the Year?
National team coaches and captains.
Well then he's definitely not going to get it.
who casts the votes for FIFA World Player of the Year?
National team coaches and captains.
Well then he's definitely not going to get it.
Toppa, yuh would be surprised. He will get it.......but he don't deserve it. He had the best results in epl and Champions' League, but he is by no means the best footballer in the world this past year.
who casts the votes for FIFA World Player of the Year?
National team coaches and captains.
Well then he's definitely not going to get it.
Toppa, yuh would be surprised. He will get it.......but he don't deserve it. He had the best results in epl and Champions' League, but he is by no means the best footballer in the world this past year.
then who is?
who casts the votes for FIFA World Player of the Year?
National team coaches and captains.
Well then he's definitely not going to get it.
Toppa, yuh would be surprised. He will get it.......but he don't deserve it. He had the best results in epl and Champions' League, but he is by no means the best footballer in the world this past year.
then who is?
Read the thread again, Sammy. I done cough up my nominee long time.
How was Messi better than C. Ronaldo last year?
Did he score more goals?- nope
More assists?- don't know but I doubt it.
More trophies?- nope (though it's a kinda bogus measure...it influences the perception)
Was he a better dead ball specialist? nope
A better header of the ball? nope
Works harder on tracking back? nope
I'm a bigger fan of Messi than I am of Ronaldo, but I would have a hard time arguing that he was a better player than Ronaldo over the past year....Ronaldo had a dream season...Messi didn't...he even struggled with injuries in patches.
I'd honestly like to hear your take.
Well then he's definitely not going to get it.
who casts the votes for FIFA World Player of the Year?
National team coaches and captains.
Well then he's definitely not going to get it.
Toppa, yuh would be surprised. He will get it.......but he don't deserve it. He had the best results in epl and Champions' League, but he is by no means the best footballer in the world this past year.
then who is?
Read the thread again, Sammy. I done cough up my nominee long time.
How was Messi better than C. Ronaldo last year?
Did he score more goals?- nope
More assists?- don't know but I doubt it.
More trophies?- nope (though it's a kinda bogus measure...it influences the perception)
Was he a better dead ball specialist? nope
A better header of the ball? nope
Works harder on tracking back? nope
I'm a bigger fan of Messi than I am of Ronaldo, but I would have a hard time arguing that he was a better player than Ronaldo over the past year....Ronaldo had a dream season...Messi didn't...he even struggled with injuries in patches.
I'd honestly like to hear your take.
It's grating hearing that word 'assist' used in football. What hapened to 'set up'? Anyway...
Messi only missing out because of all the injury problems but no one is a game-changing like Messi.
How many games did he single-handedly win for Barca will C Ronaldo continues to disappear against quality opponents?
He might win the awards this yr but he's not a great of the sport.
It's grating hearing that word 'assist' used in football. What hapened to 'set up'? Anyway...
Messi only missing out because of all the injury problems but no one is a game-changing like Messi.
How many games did he single-handedly win for Barca will C Ronaldo continues to disappear against quality opponents?
He might win the awards this yr but he's not a great of the sport.
Nothing is wrong in rewarding a cheater.
nothing.
Messi win Champions League last year ????
Congrats CR7...
Messi win Champions League last year ????
Congrats CR7...
It's grating hearing that word 'assist' used in football. What hapened to 'set up'? Anyway...
Messi only missing out because of all the injury problems but no one is a game-changing like Messi.
How many games did he single-handedly win for Barca will C Ronaldo continues to disappear against quality opponents?
He might win the awards this yr but he's not a great of the sport.
I not getting into that nebulous "great of the sport" that will always be subjective.
As for Ronaldo disappearing, again people will see what they want to see. Last year he scored against Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea in big games. I am sure that Messi didn't score or even play well in every big game. And once yuh start that discussion people always decide which games are big or important to suit their own arguments.
The fact that Messi was missing also can't be ignored in deciding who was the best performer last year. If he was fit it might have been a different story but we will never know.
Nothing wrong with not liking Ronaldo, he is not a likable fella but the award is based on achievement during a given year and he achieved. All the hand wringing about who "woulda, coulda, shoulda" be better than him last year is just bitter nonsense and reluctance to give the man credit.
In general I think people either do not understand what this award is or they conveniently ignore it so that they could dig Ronaldo. It is an annual award, like so many other annual accoldes it does not crown the winner GREATEST EVER or even great for that matter. A player's entire body of work will be used to judge that.
Papin win this (or a similar award) as did Michael Owen. Nobody for a second thought that they were the best in the world or felt the need to bring them down and promote Baggio or Zidane who were clearly better players at the time. So why the big fuss now?
It does not mean that a player is the best in the world just that they did they best in a particular year. The greats will win it several times and since people are so convinced that Ronaldo is a snake then they wouldn't have to worry because he can't fool all the people all the time right?
Nothing is wrong in rewarding a cheater.
nothing.
Nothing is wrong in rewarding a cheater.
nothing.
u bitter he cheat on u?
Nothing is wrong in rewarding a cheater.
nothing.
u bitter he cheat on u?
Get over it.
Cronaldo is a cheater.
Am I lying?
As I knew you would be. I am not one to just take "statistics" to use as what I deem to make one player a better player than another. I am one of those football fans that prefers class over form. Messi is a far better individual player than cronaldo is. That cronaldo has achieved the success he has, is very much influenced by the team he plays for and the league he plays in. Please! Fernando Torres is a better player than cronaldo is. What success has cronaldo brought for Portugal? At ANY level? I mean, if he is such a superman that can take corners/free kicks and run and head them into the net by himself then Portugal shoulda done qualified for South Africa already, no? When was the last time you saw cronaldo beat a whole defense (from midfield) and score? As a matter of fact, how often does he stay on his feet if he have to work past any TWO defenders? I'm sure if Messi always threw himself on the ground in the 18 and took the resulting penalties as often as cry-baby does his goal statistics would go up as well. I've NEVER seen Messi shrink in a big game, though, regardless of the end result. The English game FOR YEARS has been known to be a game of long balls and crosses, hence why so many goalkeepers have to be able to handle crosses to fair well there. The Spanish game plays more of the ball at their feet. It stands to reason that cronaldo would have greater heading statistics than probably ANY player in Spain. You act as if you know for a fact that Messi can't or don't know how to head a damned ball. Hardly likely to either. So because he does stand up like the Incredible Hulk to take a free kick, that make him a better deadball "specialist"? 7 times out of 10 his free kicks hit the wall or are off target. Frank Lampard is, statistically, some kinda record-breaking midfielder in the epl. Can he call himself a better midfielder than Patrick Vieira? I don't think so. I can accept that the fifa world player of the year award is a popular and politically-correct award, but you can take all them stats and shove it, jed. Kaka and Ronaldinho are STILL better footballers than cronaldo.
As far as the voting goes, I'm not sure that a national team coach can vote for any players from his or her own country. I will have to pull out some of my old WS magazines, too, to verify that. They will publish the voting records sometime in March or maybe April, and you will see some of the ridiculous voting that goes on.
Messi win Champions League last year ????
Congrats CR7...
to add to your question - what barca win last year?
Nothing is wrong in rewarding a cheater.
nothing.
u bitter he cheat on u?
Get over it.
Cronaldo is a cheater.
Am I lying?
u mean the diving? yeah daiz crap. however, daiz a skill in itself. Ask drogba.
Messi win Champions League last year ????
Congrats CR7...
to add to your question - what barca win last year?
Where was Ronaldo during the CL 2nd leg game vs Barcelona?
Remeber these stats
Match Stats
Barcelona Manchester United
Shots (on Goal) 20(6) 7(1)
Fouls 12 20
Corner Kicks 8 3
Offsides 0 3
Time of Possession 73% 27%
Yellow Cards 1 1
Red Cards 0 0
Saves 1 6
Messi win Champions League last year ????
Congrats CR7...
to add to your question - what barca win last year?
Where was Ronaldo during the CL 2nd leg game vs Barcelona?
Remeber these stats
Match Stats
Barcelona Manchester United
Shots (on Goal) 20(6) 7(1)
Fouls 12 20
Corner Kicks 8 3
Offsides 0 3
Time of Possession 73% 27%
Yellow Cards 1 1
Red Cards 0 0
Saves 1 6
so u saying murinhno never brakes for him?
Does Drogba dive? Absolutely.
Was Drogba idiotic enough to say that he deserve 1st, 2nd and 3rd place?
Drogba was brutally honest when he said he wanted to leave Chelsea ... circa Mourinho.
Drogba doesn't have a hypocritic coach making excuses for him either.
Take away nothing from it, though.
This is about Cronaldo ... and he is a cheater.
It's grating hearing that word 'assist' used in football. What hapened to 'set up'? Anyway...
Messi only missing out because of all the injury problems but no one is a game-changing like Messi.
How many games did he single-handedly win for Barca will C Ronaldo continues to disappear against quality opponents?
He might win the awards this yr but he's not a great of the sport.
Thank you, Toppa. Before the usa started becoming more............prominentever present in world football, that word "assist" was never heard of, nor was it so used as some sort of standard for excellence. Tevez could do all the back-tracking, win the ball, run at the defence, lay the ball off for cronaldo who was loafing, who then takes a bad shot that Tevez (continuing his run) knocks in for a goal, and cry-baby gets credited with, yeah, you guessed it, an "assist." Dem men and dem could kiss myass wid all dem stats, eh!
so u saying murinhno never brakes for him?
If cronaldo feel he so good to be first second and 3rd, well thats him.
the fact is that his great form that season did help utd to win the double, whether u can admit it or not.
Quoteso u saying murinhno never brakes for him?
Mourinho has called Drogba on diving. That is a documented fact.QuoteIf cronaldo feel he so good to be first second and 3rd, well thats him.
He doesn't trip over defenders tackles. He trips over his big ego.Quotethe fact is that his great form that season did help utd to win the double, whether u can admit it or not.
swan dive to perfection.
That's just petty. Toppa what makes "set up" a better term than "assist"?? It's the same sh*t. Allyuh just like to complain....
In that hypothetical case you bring up Chow, sure someone can get a lucky assist- so what? People score lucky goals too.... but let's be honest, the assist concept very often does give credit to someone (other than the goal scorer) who played a crucial part in the goal- no one said it's perfect, but I think it's worthwhile. If the concept was originated by Brazilian football, I bet you wouldn't be complaining.
Cyah please allyuh at all.
did mourinho called him on diving while he was his coach?Mourinho defended all his players, and he was brutally honest about it.
so u saying that he dont get fouled, and every time he goes to ground is because he dived?I don't recall saying this. Anytime. Anywhere.
and u saying that he didnt help utd beat allyuh to 2 tittles last season and one title the season before last?I must have a ghostwriter ... didn't say that either - but see response above.
Maybe allyuh should try to buy him ?Funny how ManUre fans are hypocritical of Chelsea's spending ways.
Is not just about scoring JDB, is about influencing the game and helping your team achieve something. How many goals did Senna score in the Euros? Yet almost everyone was on about his contribution, something you don't see in the big tournaments from Ronaldo. I don't think anyone could dispute club form last year, but International, he far down the list.
In the last WC vs Germany it took Figo coming of the bench to show what class is, while dude on the field whole game.
Is not just about scoring JDB, is about influencing the game and helping your team achieve something. How many goals did Senna score in the Euros? Yet almost everyone was on about his contribution, something you don't see in the big tournaments from Ronaldo. I don't think anyone could dispute club form last year, but International, he far down the list.
In the last WC vs Germany it took Figo coming of the bench to show what class is, while dude on the field whole game.
Are you saying that Ronaldo didn't influence Manchester United last year and help them achieve the double? For all this talk about Ronaldo being a loafer and benefitting from the hard work of others peopel seem to be ignoring the fact that Ronaldo commands attention in everygame and teams never ignore him.
Now for club vs international achievements I could list a long list of players who have won this award without having international achievements. Again nobody was complaining when Figo, playing for the same Portugal win based on his club achievements, or Owen. I am scratching my head to think of the player who won this award having won Domestic, European and Internationational awards in the same year.
Zidane win it in 1998. World Cup winner but lost in CL final
Nedved win in 2003. What the Czech Republic win?
Fat Ronaldo win in 97 without even playing in the CL and they didn't win the league, they win a Cup Winners Cup
Stoichkov win in 1994. Didn't win a World CUp and Brcelona get 4 from AC Milan in the CL final.
So what is your standard for winning this thing now? Is it that you have to win everything in the same year or not?
Is not just about scoring JDB, is about influencing the game and helping your team achieve something...
I don't think anyone could dispute club form last year, but International, he far down the list.
It's grating hearing that word 'assist' used in football. What hapened to 'set up'? Anyway...
Messi only missing out because of all the injury problems but no one is a game-changing like Messi.
How many games did he single-handedly win for Barca will C Ronaldo continues to disappear against quality opponents?
He might win the awards this yr but he's not a great of the sport.
Thank you, Toppa. Before the usa started becoming more............prominentever present in world football, that word "assist" was never heard of, nor was it so used as some sort of standard for excellence. Tevez could do all the back-tracking, win the ball, run at the defence, lay the ball off for cronaldo who was loafing, who then takes a bad shot that Tevez (continuing his run) knocks in for a goal, and cry-baby gets credited with, yeah, you guessed it, an "assist." Dem men and dem could kiss myass wid all dem stats, eh!
That's just petty. Toppa what makes "set up" a better term than "assist"?? It's the same sh*t. Allyuh just like to complain....
I realize men here, feel that a player only needs to show up for probably 6 games per season against the "big" sides. The rest of games against lesser sides don't count nah. Those games are only friendlies that dont carry points. - lemme hear allyuh. If messi was more effective last season, then y he eh help win a tittle for his side?
It's grating hearing that word 'assist' used in football. What hapened to 'set up'? Anyway...
Messi only missing out because of all the injury problems but no one is a game-changing like Messi.
How many games did he single-handedly win for Barca will C Ronaldo continues to disappear against quality opponents?
He might win the awards this yr but he's not a great of the sport.
Thank you, Toppa. Before the usa started becoming more............prominentever present in world football, that word "assist" was never heard of, nor was it so used as some sort of standard for excellence. Tevez could do all the back-tracking, win the ball, run at the defence, lay the ball off for cronaldo who was loafing, who then takes a bad shot that Tevez (continuing his run) knocks in for a goal, and cry-baby gets credited with, yeah, you guessed it, an "assist." Dem men and dem could kiss myass wid all dem stats, eh!
That's just petty. Toppa what makes "set up" a better term than "assist"?? It's the same sh*t. Allyuh just like to complain....
I don't care if you think it's petty. The term 'assist' still sounds very out of place. Will you say a match ended '1 - love' instead of 1 -nil?
It's grating hearing that word 'assist' used in football. What hapened to 'set up'? Anyway...
Messi only missing out because of all the injury problems but no one is a game-changing like Messi.
How many games did he single-handedly win for Barca will C Ronaldo continues to disappear against quality opponents?
He might win the awards this yr but he's not a great of the sport.
Thank you, Toppa. Before the usa started becoming more............prominentever present in world football, that word "assist" was never heard of, nor was it so used as some sort of standard for excellence. Tevez could do all the back-tracking, win the ball, run at the defence, lay the ball off for cronaldo who was loafing, who then takes a bad shot that Tevez (continuing his run) knocks in for a goal, and cry-baby gets credited with, yeah, you guessed it, an "assist." Dem men and dem could kiss myass wid all dem stats, eh!
That's just petty. Toppa what makes "set up" a better term than "assist"?? It's the same sh*t. Allyuh just like to complain....
I don't care if you think it's petty. The term 'assist' still sounds very out of place. Will you say a match ended '1 - love' instead of 1 -nil?
The use of love to represent "nothing" is unique to tennis (I believe).
Assist is a generic word, and I'm pretty sure its meaning as it relates to football/soccer is as widely known, and used as "set up"...(unless your world is limited to Trinidad)
Next you're gonna try to convince me that soccer is an American word (even though it's not)....and that word gets you all hot & bothered too...
It's grating hearing that word 'assist' used in football. What hapened to 'set up'? Anyway...
Messi only missing out because of all the injury problems but no one is a game-changing like Messi.
How many games did he single-handedly win for Barca will C Ronaldo continues to disappear against quality opponents?
He might win the awards this yr but he's not a great of the sport.
Thank you, Toppa. Before the usa started becoming more............prominentever present in world football, that word "assist" was never heard of, nor was it so used as some sort of standard for excellence. Tevez could do all the back-tracking, win the ball, run at the defence, lay the ball off for cronaldo who was loafing, who then takes a bad shot that Tevez (continuing his run) knocks in for a goal, and cry-baby gets credited with, yeah, you guessed it, an "assist." Dem men and dem could kiss myass wid all dem stats, eh!
That's just petty. Toppa what makes "set up" a better term than "assist"?? It's the same sh*t. Allyuh just like to complain....
I don't care if you think it's petty. The term 'assist' still sounds very out of place. Will you say a match ended '1 - love' instead of 1 -nil?
The use of love to represent "nothing" is unique to tennis (I believe).
Assist is a generic word, and I'm pretty sure its meaning as it relates to football/soccer is as widely known, and used as "set up"...(unless your world is limited to Trinidad)
Next you're gonna try to convince me that soccer is an American word (even though it's not)....and that word gets you all hot & bothered too...
'Assist' is as generic as saying '1-love'.
It's called being sarcastic.It's grating hearing that word 'assist' used in football. What hapened to 'set up'? Anyway...
Messi only missing out because of all the injury problems but no one is a game-changing like Messi.
How many games did he single-handedly win for Barca will C Ronaldo continues to disappear against quality opponents?
He might win the awards this yr but he's not a great of the sport.
Thank you, Toppa. Before the usa started becoming more............prominentever present in world football, that word "assist" was never heard of, nor was it so used as some sort of standard for excellence. Tevez could do all the back-tracking, win the ball, run at the defence, lay the ball off for cronaldo who was loafing, who then takes a bad shot that Tevez (continuing his run) knocks in for a goal, and cry-baby gets credited with, yeah, you guessed it, an "assist." Dem men and dem could kiss myass wid all dem stats, eh!
That's just petty. Toppa what makes "set up" a better term than "assist"?? It's the same sh*t. Allyuh just like to complain....
I don't care if you think it's petty. The term 'assist' still sounds very out of place. Will you say a match ended '1 - love' instead of 1 -nil?
The use of love to represent "nothing" is unique to tennis (I believe).
Assist is a generic word, and I'm pretty sure its meaning as it relates to football/soccer is as widely known, and used as "set up"...(unless your world is limited to Trinidad)
Next you're gonna try to convince me that soccer is an American word (even though it's not)....and that word gets you all hot & bothered too...
'Assist' is as generic as saying '1-love'.
You don't know what generic means.
i not begrudging the chi chi man his award, because he was head and shoulders above everyone over the last year. However its important to remember that the award is meant to recognize the best player in a calendar year; not the best player.
I think this is what Toppa and others are trying to get at.
i not begrudging the chi chi man his award, because he was head and shoulders above everyone over the last year. However its important to remember that the award is meant to recognize the best player in a calendar year; not the best player.
I think this is what Toppa and others are trying to get at.
That's obvious and everyone knows that...Toppa & dem just hating.
Dey just like too see Jack freezin' in the winter and Jim barefoot on the bench press.
i not begrudging the chi chi man his award, because he was head and shoulders above everyone over the last year. However its important to remember that the award is meant to recognize the best player in a calendar year; not the best player.
I think this is what Toppa and others are trying to get at.
That's obvious and everyone knows that...Toppa & dem just hating.
Dey just like too see Jack freezin' in the winter and Jim barefoot on the bench press.
???
I not getting into that nebulous "great of the sport" that will always be subjective.
As for Ronaldo disappearing, again people will see what they want to see. Last year he scored against Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea in big games. I am sure that Messi didn't score or even play well in every big game. And once yuh start that discussion people always decide which games are big or important to suit their own arguments.
What a waste of an award.
Agreed give it to Torres
However its important to remember that the award is meant to recognize the best player in a calendar year; not the best player.
However its important to remember that the award is meant to recognize the best player in a calendar year; not the best player.
me personally, I find that a calendar year is a sufficiently long time that there is no difference between the two.
the best player won't necessarily be the best player in a given game and people does go in and out of form but if a man is better than everybody else over the course of a whole year then he's the best player in the world. that's not to say that Messi/Kaka/whoever else can't overtake him.
Quotedid mourinho called him on diving while he was his coach?Mourinho defended all his players, and he was brutally honest about it.
He has admitted luck in getting a penalty. He has not made claims of phantom trips occuring.
He made it all about him, and took the focus off his players. When there was no more Mourinho at the epi-center of the storm, the frenzy shifted elsewhere ... to the players.Quoteso u saying that he dont get fouled, and every time he goes to ground is because he dived?I don't recall saying this. Anytime. Anywhere.
What I said was that he dives. He dives to influence the referee to give freekicks. He dives to influence the referee to give penalties. He dives to get players cautioned or sent off. All decisions which influence the outcome of the game and gives his team an UNFAIR advantage over the opponent. The sad this is that he is SHAMELESS in his pursuit.
u should be saying this for all divers. If u want to criticize, then start from home on your side.Quoteand u saying that he didnt help utd beat allyuh to 2 tittles last season and one title the season before last?I must have a ghostwriter ... didn't say that either - but see response above.QuoteMaybe allyuh should try to buy him ?Funny how ManUre fans are hypocritical of Chelsea's spending ways.
What does ManUre do with a player who doesn't want to play for them anymore? THROW MORE MONEY at him.
Make it rain Pacman. MAKE IT RAIN!!!
Man Utd is/ was a big side even before offering him a new contract. where/what chelsea was before the big bucks?
However its important to remember that the award is meant to recognize the best player in a calendar year; not the best player.
me personally, I find that a calendar year is a sufficiently long time that there is no difference between the two.
the best player won't necessarily be the best player in a given game and people does go in and out of form but if a man is better than everybody else over the course of a whole year then he's the best player in the world. that's not to say that Messi/Kaka/whoever else can't overtake him.
daryn..
hypothetically, lets say that Barcelona had no dressing room turmoil and Deco, Ronaldinho, Eto'o et al were playing to their full potentials. Also Messi remained injury free and Barcelona won alot of stuff...
On the other hand, Tevez, Rio and Van Der Sar was hitting de night clubs, the team suffered injuries and had a below par season. Ronaldo had some injuries throughout the year, and despite being excellent when available, his achievements were sub par.
you would still think that the award should go to CR7 being the better player?
However its important to remember that the award is meant to recognize the best player in a calendar year; not the best player.
me personally, I find that a calendar year is a sufficiently long time that there is no difference between the two.
the best player won't necessarily be the best player in a given game and people does go in and out of form but if a man is better than everybody else over the course of a whole year then he's the best player in the world. that's not to say that Messi/Kaka/whoever else can't overtake him.
daryn..
hypothetically, lets say that Barcelona had no dressing room turmoil and Deco, Ronaldinho, Eto'o et al were playing to their full potentials. Also Messi remained injury free and Barcelona won alot of stuff...
On the other hand, Tevez, Rio and Van Der Sar was hitting de night clubs, the team suffered injuries and had a below par season. Ronaldo had some injuries throughout the year, and despite being excellent when available, his achievements were sub par.
you would still think that the award should go to CR7 being the better player?
However its important to remember that the award is meant to recognize the best player in a calendar year; not the best player.
me personally, I find that a calendar year is a sufficiently long time that there is no difference between the two.
the best player won't necessarily be the best player in a given game and people does go in and out of form but if a man is better than everybody else over the course of a whole year then he's the best player in the world. that's not to say that Messi/Kaka/whoever else can't overtake him.
daryn..
hypothetically, lets say that Barcelona had no dressing room turmoil and Deco, Ronaldinho, Eto'o et al were playing to their full potentials. Also Messi remained injury free and Barcelona won alot of stuff...
On the other hand, Tevez, Rio and Van Der Sar was hitting de night clubs, the team suffered injuries and had a below par season. Ronaldo had some injuries throughout the year, and despite being excellent when available, his achievements were sub par.
you would still think that the award should go to CR7 being the better player?
ok yeah. Ronaldo is a cheater. He secretly changed ballots for him to win the award. He bribed people to vote for him. Real wanna spend big bucks to buy him cause they think he can cheat for them to win. Your boss scolari use to drop him from portugal side cause he is a cheat. He cheat on he gf, he cheat on BPL he cheat on you, but most of all he cheat on you.
Feeling better?
For the record, i even said it other threads, i dont like the fella, however, if he help Utd win again, then i glad.
Whether i like the fella or not, he had an exceptional year regardless. If u cyah admit/ realize that, then there's nothing more i can say.
However its important to remember that the award is meant to recognize the best player in a calendar year; not the best player.
me personally, I find that a calendar year is a sufficiently long time that there is no difference between the two.
the best player won't necessarily be the best player in a given game and people does go in and out of form but if a man is better than everybody else over the course of a whole year then he's the best player in the world. that's not to say that Messi/Kaka/whoever else can't overtake him.
daryn..
hypothetically, lets say that Barcelona had no dressing room turmoil and Deco, Ronaldinho, Eto'o et al were playing to their full potentials. Also Messi remained injury free and Barcelona won alot of stuff...
On the other hand, Tevez, Rio and Van Der Sar was hitting de night clubs, the team suffered injuries and had a below par season. Ronaldo had some injuries throughout the year, and despite being excellent when available, his achievements were sub par.
you would still think that the award should go to CR7 being the better player?
What's your point?
I don't think anyone claimed (or would dare to claim) that Ronaldo would have won if he and his team had a sub-par season due to injury and turmoil, and Messi had the perfect season.....That hypothetical scenario proves nothing.
If you want to make the point that Messi is better than C.Ronaldo regardless of the surrounding factors you have to create a hypothetical which puts them on even footing...
either they both suffered from injury/turmoil or both didn't...
However its important to remember that the award is meant to recognize the best player in a calendar year; not the best player.
me personally, I find that a calendar year is a sufficiently long time that there is no difference between the two.
the best player won't necessarily be the best player in a given game and people does go in and out of form but if a man is better than everybody else over the course of a whole year then he's the best player in the world. that's not to say that Messi/Kaka/whoever else can't overtake him.
daryn..
hypothetically, lets say that Barcelona had no dressing room turmoil and Deco, Ronaldinho, Eto'o et al were playing to their full potentials. Also Messi remained injury free and Barcelona won alot of stuff...
On the other hand, Tevez, Rio and Van Der Sar was hitting de night clubs, the team suffered injuries and had a below par season. Ronaldo had some injuries throughout the year, and despite being excellent when available, his achievements were sub par.
you would still think that the award should go to CR7 being the better player?
What's your point?
I don't think anyone claimed (or would dare to claim) that Ronaldo would have won if he and his team had a sub-par season due to injury and turmoil, and Messi had the perfect season.....That hypothetical scenario proves nothing.
If you want to make the point that Messi is better than C.Ronaldo regardless of the surrounding factors you have to create a hypothetical which puts them on even footing...
either they both suffered from injury/turmoil or both didn't...
i think my point flew over your head..
i was addressing daryn who said that he believes being better in a calendar year is a sufficient enough time to adjudge a player as being the better player overall.. My point was that in any given season, there can be many factors that could push even the best player down the ladder temporarily. But that doesn't impact someone's assessment of who is better overall.
How many world cups has he won...... :devil:.......you have be there at the biggest dance
Great player as he is,I think he has to perform on that level before being placed on the throne,just my two cents
How many world cups has he won...... :devil:.......you have be there at the biggest dance
Great player as he is,I think he has to perform on that level before being placed on the throne,just my two cents
how much world cups george best win? yet play in?
stop talking shit...a world cup winners medal doesnt define a player...yes it helps but is not his fault portugal shitty lol
How many world cups has he won...... :devil:.......you have be there at the biggest dance
Great player as he is,I think he has to perform on that level before being placed on the throne,just my two cents
how much world cups george best win? yet play in?
stop talking shit...a world cup winners medal doesnt define a player...yes it helps but is not his fault portugal shitty lol
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George Best is not a legend like Pele or Maradona.
How many world cups has he won...... :devil:.......you have be there at the biggest dance
Great player as he is,I think he has to perform on that level before being placed on the throne,just my two cents
how much world cups george best win? yet play in?
stop talking shit...a world cup winners medal doesnt define a player...yes it helps but is not his fault portugal shitty lol
::)
George Best is not a legend like Pele or Maradona.
maybe you should read around... he right amongst them
legend 7
How many world cups has he won...... :devil:.......you have be there at the biggest dance
Great player as he is,I think he has to perform on that level before being placed on the throne,just my two cents
how much world cups george best win? yet play in?
stop talking shit...a world cup winners medal doesnt define a player...yes it helps but is not his fault portugal shitty lol
::)
George Best is not a legend like Pele or Maradona.
maybe you should read around... he right amongst them
legend 7
In any literature published outside of England, he probably not cutting a top 10 world's greatest players.
if i didn't know better i'd think you're englishHow many world cups has he won...... :devil:.......you have be there at the biggest dance
Great player as he is,I think he has to perform on that level before being placed on the throne,just my two cents
how much world cups george best win? yet play in?
stop talking shit...a world cup winners medal doesnt define a player...yes it helps but is not his fault portugal shitty lol
::)
George Best is not a legend like Pele or Maradona.
maybe you should read around... he right amongst them
legend 7
How many world cups has he won...... :devil:.......you have be there at the biggest dance
Great player as he is,I think he has to perform on that level before being placed on the throne,just my two cents
how much world cups george best win? yet play in?
stop talking shit...a world cup winners medal doesnt define a player...yes it helps but is not his fault portugal shitty lol
::)
George Best is not a legend like Pele or Maradona.
maybe you should read around... he right amongst them
legend 7
In any literature published outside of England, he probably not cutting a top 10 world's greatest players.
ok..go drink yuh manutd flavoured haterade
How many world cups has he won...... :devil:.......you have be there at the biggest dance
Great player as he is,I think he has to perform on that level before being placed on the throne,just my two cents
How many world cups has he won...... :devil:.......you have be there at the biggest dance
Great player as he is,I think he has to perform on that level before being placed on the throne,just my two cents
I should hope not. No individual actual wins a world cup..and you don't have to be great to shine in one. It's the greatest misconception (imo) that people use the world cup as a barometer for greatness..especially when it's all about getting a million different things right in 7 games every four years. Luck more than anything dictates whether the stars are aligned in a player's favor. I'd like to think people don't actually think Maradona was the greatest of his generation (and possibly greatest of all time) because he won a World Cup. You mean, if Germany happened to win that final, people would actually think of Diego differently? That would be sad and perhaps a sign of valuing hype over substance. If you look at it objectively the 86 World Cup final was actually the worst of Diego's 7 performances that WC. He played a major role in getting them to the final..but then you saw the true strength of Argentine team to win it in the game that mattered most.
As for C ronaldo. Who knows. I'd imagine, anything is possible when you have that kind of talent and potential at 23
The minute he put on a Real Madrid uniform..Sir Alex would be singing a different tune...
p.s I used to hear that "greatest" talk with the other Ronaldo...look where that end up..
How many world cups has he won...... :devil:.......you have be there at the biggest dance
Great player as he is,I think he has to perform on that level before being placed on the throne,just my two cents
I should hope not. No individual actual wins a world cup..and you don't have to be great to shine in one. It's the greatest misconception (imo) that people use the world cup as a barometer for greatness..especially when it's all about getting a million different things right in 7 games every four years. Luck more than anything dictates whether the stars are aligned in a player's favor. I'd like to think people don't actually think Maradona was the greatest of his generation (and possibly greatest of all time) because he won a World Cup. You mean, if Germany happened to win that final, people would actually think of Diego differently? That would be sad and perhaps a sign of valuing hype over substance. If you look at it objectively the 86 World Cup final was actually the worst of Diego's 7 performances that WC. He played a major role in getting them to the final..but then you saw the true strength of Argentine team to win it in the game that mattered most.
As for C ronaldo. Who knows. I'd imagine, anything is possible when you have that kind of talent and potential at 23
So how do you come up with a best player then?
He have to win more than 1 world cup to be in these guys books.
If you cannot perform on the biggest stage then you cannot be the biggest player in the world. There is no way club form alone could propel you to greatness like those players mentioned. We lowering the bar for this guy. Yes he is a great player, but by no means in the equation to Pele or Maradonna (not even the real Ronaldo).
I believe that right now football struggling for a consistently great footballer (we EPL supporters), but having said that if Barcelona were to be transplanted to the EPL supporters will be asking Ronaldo who?
So how do you come up with a best player then?
He have to win more than 1 world cup to be in these guys books.
If you cannot perform on the biggest stage then you cannot be the biggest player in the world. There is no way club form alone could propel you to greatness like those players mentioned. We lowering the bar for this guy. Yes he is a great player, but by no means in the equation to Pele or Maradonna (not even the real Ronaldo).
I believe that right now football struggling for a consistently great footballer (we EPL supporters), but having said that if Barcelona were to be transplanted to the EPL supporters will be asking Ronaldo who?
The minute he put on a Real Madrid uniform..Sir Alex would be singing a different tune...
p.s I used to hear that "greatest" talk with the other Ronaldo...look where that end up..
lol, more of Ferguson BS before he offload a player.:praying:
Ronaldo ent half as good as Scholes or Giggs , 1 more season for him at Manu.
The minute he put on a Real Madrid uniform..Sir Alex would be singing a different tune...
p.s I used to hear that "greatest" talk with the other Ronaldo...look where that end up..
Don't understand this statement. Ronaldo Luis Nazário de Lima is the greatest player of his generation & will be considered as one of the greatest footballers of all time.
The minute he put on a Real Madrid uniform..Sir Alex would be singing a different tune...
p.s I used to hear that "greatest" talk with the other Ronaldo...look where that end up..
I'm a man u fan but I doh believe in blind support for anyone though matter how seemingly great they're,as for cristiano ronaldo not even close to becoming a legend.
What has he done to be so exalted, won some championships listen everytime he plays any ball for his country he fails to impress,in my book he's got to mirror everything in his own way of course that those players mentioned did.
Get real folks he ent no pele or maradona......
Chupss...
To mention C. Ronaldo's name along with Pele and Maradonna in the same sentence and also include the
word(s) world best/greatest, is to commit football blasphemy....
Chupss...
To mention C. Ronaldo's name along with Pele and Maradonna in the same sentence and also include the
word(s) world best/greatest, is to commit football blasphemy....
I don't even think C. Ronaldo is the world's best right now, but I real curious as to where some people get this untouchable deference for Pele and Maradona. Sure we have some knowledge of them at their peak, and what they did over their entire careers. But can you honestly say that you saw Pele and Maradona play week in and week out when they were 23 years old? Neither Pele nor Maradona were always considered the best players the world has ever seen. At one point they were just potential. C. Ronaldo is only 23 and that's what he is..potential. The most we could do is say we doh think he have the potential to get there. It's really not a discussion of whether he ther now or not. And come nah man..let's stop sipping the haterade for one second. If a 23 year-old trini, played the exact same way, scored 42 goals in one season, helped his team win the League and CL he'd be the best thing in a tugs. We woulda ball murder if he didn't win world and european player of the year. normal normal ;D
Chupss...
To mention C. Ronaldo's name along with Pele and Maradonna in the same sentence and also include the
word(s) world best/greatest, is to commit football blasphemy....
I don't even think C. Ronaldo is the world's best right now, but I real curious as to where some people get this untouchable deference for Pele and Maradona. Sure we have some knowledge of them at their peak, and what they did over their entire careers. But can you honestly say that you saw Pele and Maradona play week in and week out when they were 23 years old? Neither Pele nor Maradona were always considered the best players the world has ever seen. At one point they were just potential. C. Ronaldo is only 23 and that's what he is..potential. The most we could do is say we doh think he have the potential to get there. It's really not a discussion of whether he ther now or not. And come nah man..let's stop sipping the haterade for one second. If a 23 year-old trini, played the exact same way, scored 42 goals in one season, helped his team win the League and CL he'd be the best thing in a tugs. We woulda ball murder if he didn't win world and european player of the year. normal normal ;D
Nah Filho, yuh talkin' shit now. Merry Christmas.
Who say Messi?
Xavi...class
I've always thought that individual awards in a team sport are kind of a joke and should be taken for what they are worth. If C. Ronaldo played the exact same way but the rest of the ManU squad were not up to it and the squad didn't win anything, he would be less likely to have won any awards. Same player, same performance. Also, if you don't play in Italy, Spain or England..good luck. Not impossible..but take Deco. He led Porto to European and domestic glory two years in a row. In 2004 he was voted the best player at Porto, who won the UEFA Champion's League and domestic title. He was voted the Champion's League MVP and UEFA Midfield player of the year and helped Portugal finish runner's up in the European Championships and de man couldn't even finish top 3 in World Player of the year and he didn't win the Ballon D'or. I doh care either way, but I'm guessing you cyah do that with a La Liga/ Serie A/or EPL squad and not take home at least one major individual honor. sorry boss..wrong league.
But it is what it is..and like him or not, C. Ronaldo is a boss and one of the real standout players of 2008. Hard to say who would 'deserve' individual honors more than him.
Xavi...class
I've always thought that individual awards in a team sport are kind of a joke and should be taken for what they are worth. If C. Ronaldo played the exact same way but the rest of the ManU squad were not up to it and the squad didn't win anything, he would be less likely to have won any awards. Same player, same performance. Also, if you don't play in Italy, Spain or England..good luck. Not impossible..but take Deco. He led Porto to European and domestic glory two years in a row. In 2004 he was voted the best player at Porto, who won the UEFA Champion's League and domestic title. He was voted the Champion's League MVP and UEFA Midfield player of the year and helped Portugal finish runner's up in the European Championships and de man couldn't even finish top 3 in World Player of the year and he didn't win the Ballon D'or. I doh care either way, but I'm guessing you cyah do that with a La Liga/ Serie A/or EPL squad and not take home at least one major individual honor. sorry boss..wrong league.
But it is what it is..and like him or not, C. Ronaldo is a boss and one of the real standout players of 2008. Hard to say who would 'deserve' individual honors more than him.
well deserved. but if messi avoid injury for the rest of this season he looking good for the award next year
Xavi...class
I've always thought that individual awards in a team sport are kind of a joke and should be taken for what they are worth. If C. Ronaldo played the exact same way but the rest of the ManU squad were not up to it and the squad didn't win anything, he would be less likely to have won any awards. Same player, same performance. Also, if you don't play in Italy, Spain or England..good luck. Not impossible..but take Deco. He led Porto to European and domestic glory two years in a row. In 2004 he was voted the best player at Porto, who won the UEFA Champion's League and domestic title. He was voted the Champion's League MVP and UEFA Midfield player of the year and helped Portugal finish runner's up in the European Championships and de man couldn't even finish top 3 in World Player of the year and he didn't win the Ballon D'or. I doh care either way, but I'm guessing you cyah do that with a La Liga/ Serie A/or EPL squad and not take home at least one major individual honor. sorry boss..wrong league.
But it is what it is..and like him or not, C. Ronaldo is a boss and one of the real standout players of 2008. Hard to say who would 'deserve' individual honors more than him.
Yep.. and to follow up on that it is infinitely harder for a goalkeeper or defender to win an individual award in any given season.
Xavi...class
I've always thought that individual awards in a team sport are kind of a joke and should be taken for what they are worth. If C. Ronaldo played the exact same way but the rest of the ManU squad were not up to it and the squad didn't win anything, he would be less likely to have won any awards. Same player, same performance. Also, if you don't play in Italy, Spain or England..good luck. Not impossible..but take Deco. He led Porto to European and domestic glory two years in a row. In 2004 he was voted the best player at Porto, who won the UEFA Champion's League and domestic title. He was voted the Champion's League MVP and UEFA Midfield player of the year and helped Portugal finish runner's up in the European Championships and de man couldn't even finish top 3 in World Player of the year and he didn't win the Ballon D'or. I doh care either way, but I'm guessing you cyah do that with a La Liga/ Serie A/or EPL squad and not take home at least one major individual honor. sorry boss..wrong league.
But it is what it is..and like him or not, C. Ronaldo is a boss and one of the real standout players of 2008. Hard to say who would 'deserve' individual honors more than him.
Yep.. and to follow up on that it is infinitely harder for a goalkeeper or defender to win an individual award in any given season.
Or even harder for a player outside of UEFA to win it no matter the position, so is it REALLY a legitimate award, giving legitimate consideration to all players?
cronaldo wants to win awards, Messi wins tournaments and medals.
There was never a doubt as to who would win this award, but there is no doubt in my mind who is really the best footballer in the world. I can accept the current reality.
cronaldo wants to win awards, Messi wins tournaments and medals.
cronaldo wants to win awards, Messi wins tournaments and medals.
oh oh, i feel u pull a "rafa" on we there.
unless he win a medal for a spitting contest? :o
CR has nothing to prove to anyone. United should say thanks that they had a player of his caliber. I will be sorry to see him go, but say wha....., if it is time to end the relationship so be it....according to to the kaiso by Mighty Power "..... man gone... man dey....". Thanks CR, for the fancy footworks, they all jealous that they can't do it also.
CR has nothing to prove to anyone. United should say thanks that they had a player of his caliber. I will be sorry to see him go, but say wha....., if it is time to end the relationship so be it....according to to the kaiso by Mighty Power "..... man gone... man dey....". Thanks CR, for the fancy footworks, they all jealous that they can't do it also.
Ronaldo should say thanks that Utd took him in and groomed his talents. He was real shitty and frustrating in first couple of years - kinda like how nani is now.
Anyways, USE him this season and run he tail in the summer transfer.
Terry is an arse!
John Terry snubs Cristiano Ronaldo in Fifa World Player of the Year vote
When Cristiano Ronaldo claimed his latest award, Fifa World Player of the Year in Zurich, it was without the help of a number of his Premier League adversaries, principal among them Chelsea and England captain John Terry.
By Steve Wilson
Last Updated: 8:47PM GMT 13 Jan 2009
Thanks but no thanks: Manchester united's Cristiano Ronaldo wins the Fifa World Player of the Year award won with little support from Chelsea's John Terry Photo: GETTY IMAGES
Terry ranked Ronaldo only third best in the world, behind Xavi of Barcelona and Fernando Torres, with Michael Ballack, Craig Bellamy, Sami Hyypia, Yossi Benayoun and Shay Given also overlooking the Portuguese for top spot.
England's present and former managers, Fabio Capello and Sven Goran Eriksson, however, did place Ronaldo first with their vote, as did Javier Mascherano, Lucas Neill, Dimitar Berbatov, Didier Drogba and Park Ji-Sung.
The award saw the captains and managers of international sides pick their top three players of 2008, with five points awarded for a first preference, three for second and one for third.
Ronaldo accumulated 935 points, a clear victor over Lionel Messi (678) and Torres (203) in third.
Steven Gerrard was the highest placed Englishman, in sixth place, behind Kaka and Xavi.
That Terry placed Ronaldo down his choice is indication that painful memories of Moscow, in which both players missed a penalty in the shoot-out at the end of an epic Champions League final, may still be raw in the Chelsea captain's mind.
And in a season where Manchester United won the domestic title as well as the Champions League, that Ronaldo was the only representative from Sir Alex Ferguson's all conquering side to feature adds further to the sense of voting on personality as much as achievement and talent.
Two Arsenal players – Cesc Fabregas and Emmanuel Adebayor – and five from Chelsea featured on the 23 man list.
Given, as captain of Ireland, backed a goalkeeping peer in Iker Casillas while Benayoun of Israel and Hyypia of Finland rated club team-mate Torres above Ronaldo.
In Eastern Europe there was the kind of local favouritism that forced Terry Wogan to hand in his cards as compere of the Eurovision song contest last year.
Of Russian playmaker and Arsenal target Andrei Arshavin's four nominations, two were from the coach and manager of Tajikistan, one from Kyrgyzstan and the final from Bosnia Herzegovina.
Showing no discernible bias, only a confusing lonely path, was French coach Raymond Domenech who was the only man to select the combination of Samuel Eto'o, Messi and Arshavin.
And Peter Scudamore's ambitious aim of selling the Premier League product to the east appears to be working if Chinese Taipei's voting pattern is any evidence – Frank Lampard, Gerrard and Terry the three best players on the planet, according to Tsai Hsien-Tang.
Selected votes:
Country
Name -Captain of the country or manager of the country
First
Second
Third
England
John Terry
Xavi
Fernando Torres
Cristiano Ronaldo
England
Fabio Capello
Cristiano Ronaldo
Lionel Messi
Fernando Torres
Germany
Michael Ballack
Fernando Torres
Cristiano Ronaldo
John Terry
Argentina
Javier Mascherano
Cristiano Ronaldo
Fernando Torres
Steven Gerrard
Israel
Yossi Benayoun
Fernando Torres
Steven Gerrard
Cristiano Ronaldo
Portugal
Nuno Gomes
Ruud van Nistelrooy
Didier Drogba
Samuel Eto'o
Republic of Ireland
Shay Given
Iker Casillas
Cristiano Ronaldo
Lionel Messi
Togo
Emmanuel Adebayor
Cristiano Ronaldo
Lionel Messi
Steven Gerrard
Portugal
Carlos Queiroz
Xavi
Kaka
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Ukraine
Andriy Shevchenko
Cristiano Ronaldo
Fernando Torres
Steven Gerrard
Wales
Craig Bellamy
Lionel Messi
Cristiano Ronaldo
Fernando Torres
Mexico
Sven-Goran Eriksson
Cristiano Ronaldo
Lionel Messi
Fernando Torres
France
Raymond Domenech
Samuel Eto'o
Lionel Messi
Andrei Arshavin
Chinese Taipei
Tsai Hsien-Tang
Frank Lampard
Steven Gerrard
John Terry
CR has nothing to prove to anyone. United should say thanks that they had a player of his caliber. I will be sorry to see him go, but say wha....., if it is time to end the relationship so be it....according to to the kaiso by Mighty Power "..... man gone... man dey....". Thanks CR, for the fancy footworks, they all jealous that they can't do it also.
Ronaldo should say thanks that Utd took him in and groomed his talents. He was real shitty and frustrating in first couple of years - kinda like how nani is now.
Anyways, USE him this season and run he tail in the summer transfer.
Go be a classic case of all brawn no brains. Why in de world would you ask for a transfer to a shyte/has been side like de real Madrid.....?
well if a respected pundit and man-in-the-know like Guillerme Balague could come out and say it, then it have to be true...
Balague: Ronaldo has Real deal
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9070082/Balague:-Ronaldo-has-Real-deal (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9070082/Balague:-Ronaldo-has-Real-deal)
Balague claims on his website that Ronaldo and his agent Jorge Mendes have struck a deal with Calderon and not with Florentino Perez, the former Real Madrid president.
That enabled Ronaldo to announce on Monday night: "My agent does not have an agreement with Florentino Perez."
But Balague - and Spanish newspaper AS - say the newly-crowned FIFA World Player of the Year has agreed in principle to go to Madrid in the summer and may request a transfer from Manchester United.
The journalist admits, though, that 'In spite of Ronaldo's agreement with Ramon Calderon, the refusal of Sir Alex Ferguson to sell his best player remains a significant obstacle to the transfer to Madrid going ahead. And, if United refuse to sell, then the secret agreement with Calderon remains nothing more than that.'
CR has nothing to prove to anyone. United should say thanks that they had a player of his caliber. I will be sorry to see him go, but say wha....., if it is time to end the relationship so be it....according to to the kaiso by Mighty Power "..... man gone... man dey....". Thanks CR, for the fancy footworks, they all jealous that they can't do it also.
Ronaldo should say thanks that Utd took him in and groomed his talents. He was real shitty and frustrating in first couple of years - kinda like how nani is now.
Anyways, USE him this season and run he tail in the summer transfer.
Go be a classic case of all brawn no brains. Why in de world would you ask for a transfer to a shyte/has been side like de real Madrid.....?
Money?
CR has nothing to prove to anyone. United should say thanks that they had a player of his caliber. I will be sorry to see him go, but say wha....., if it is time to end the relationship so be it....according to to the kaiso by Mighty Power "..... man gone... man dey....". Thanks CR, for the fancy footworks, they all jealous that they can't do it also.
Ronaldo should say thanks that Utd took him in and groomed his talents. He was real shitty and frustrating in first couple of years - kinda like how nani is now.
Anyways, USE him this season and run he tail in the summer transfer.
Go be a classic case of all brawn no brains. Why in de world would you ask for a transfer to a shyte/has been side like de real Madrid.....?
Money?
Ok who is the most successful EPL player.... not Giggs.... so sometimes money is not everything... take the money and what will you get no trophies and smelling Barca's ass for all these years...??? Come on... I know he doh have shyte for brains..! Look at Rudd.... whey he dey now... when is de last time he win something...?
CR has nothing to prove to anyone. United should say thanks that they had a player of his caliber. I will be sorry to see him go, but say wha....., if it is time to end the relationship so be it....according to to the kaiso by Mighty Power "..... man gone... man dey....". Thanks CR, for the fancy footworks, they all jealous that they can't do it also.
Ronaldo should say thanks that Utd took him in and groomed his talents. He was real shitty and frustrating in first couple of years - kinda like how nani is now.
Anyways, USE him this season and run he tail in the summer transfer.
Go be a classic case of all brawn no brains. Why in de world would you ask for a transfer to a shyte/has been side like de real Madrid.....?
Money?
Ok who is the most successful EPL player.... not Giggs.... so sometimes money is not everything... take the money and what will you get no trophies and smelling Barca's ass for all these years...??? Come on... I know he doh have shyte for brains..! Look at Rudd.... whey he dey now... when is de last time he win something...?
??? you that ignorant? no trophies? Since Ruud moved to Spain all he's done is win trophies. he hasn't smelled Barca's ass yeat. He actually won no league trophies and had no European success at United. When he left, United won 2 back to back EPL titles and Real madrid won 2 back to back La Liga Titles. So it was a mutually beneficial parting. ManU had a great season in Europe last year and won the CL. So Ruud has not tasted European success with RM..but only a complete ignoramus would ask what he's won lately. And these things go in cycles..last time ManU tasted European success prior to last year was 1999. Real madrid won the CL the year before that and won two after ManU's..that was 3 CL wins in the space that manU won one. Only an idiot would have called ManU a has-been squad while RM was winning everything under the sun...only an idiot would call RM a has-been squad now. ha. One CL victory in 9 years and man talking like ManU is the only big side on the planet. These things go in cycles...
CR has nothing to prove to anyone. United should say thanks that they had a player of his caliber. I will be sorry to see him go, but say wha....., if it is time to end the relationship so be it....according to to the kaiso by Mighty Power "..... man gone... man dey....". Thanks CR, for the fancy footworks, they all jealous that they can't do it also.
Ronaldo should say thanks that Utd took him in and groomed his talents. He was real shitty and frustrating in first couple of years - kinda like how nani is now.
Anyways, USE him this season and run he tail in the summer transfer.
Go be a classic case of all brawn no brains. Why in de world would you ask for a transfer to a shyte/has been side like de real Madrid.....?
Money?
Ok who is the most successful EPL player.... not Giggs.... so sometimes money is not everything... take the money and what will you get no trophies and smelling Barca's ass for all these years...??? Come on... I know he doh have shyte for brains..! Look at Rudd.... whey he dey now... when is de last time he win something...?
??? you that ignorant? no trophies? Since Ruud moved to Spain all he's done is win trophies. he hasn't smelled Barca's ass yeat. He actually won no league trophies and had no European success at United. When he left, United won 2 back to back EPL titles and Real madrid won 2 back to back La Liga Titles. So it was a mutually beneficial parting. ManU had a great season in Europe last year and won the CL. So Ruud has not tasted European success with RM..but only a complete ignoramus would ask what he's won lately. And these things go in cycles..last time ManU tasted European success prior to last year was 1999. Real madrid won the CL the year before that and won two after ManU's..that was 3 CL wins in the space that manU won one. Only an idiot would have called ManU a has-been squad while RM was winning everything under the sun...only an idiot would call RM a has-been squad now. ha. One CL victory in 9 years and man talking like ManU is the only big side on the planet. These things go in cycles...
Ruud won the PL with UTD in 02/03
I still wish he was at Utd ... my favourite player ever.... unfornuately he's at madrid but he's tearing it up there
After the CL final i really felt it for him...he should have been there...he said he wanted to retire at Utd but things happen for a reason
RUUD LEGEND 10 VAN NISTELROOY
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CR has nothing to prove to anyone. United should say thanks that they had a player of his caliber. I will be sorry to see him go, but say wha....., if it is time to end the relationship so be it....according to to the kaiso by Mighty Power "..... man gone... man dey....". Thanks CR, for the fancy footworks, they all jealous that they can't do it also.
It amazes me how much so many people put the emphasis on any one person "winning" something to quantify him as a being great or "the greatest" player or not. During RvN's last years at manu, they were going through a goalkeeping crisis between the Barthez and VdS eras (caused by fergie, if you ask me) that very much contributed to their barren run. What would have manu accomplished the last two seasons without VdS? What would Spain an/or RM won the last few years without Casillas' consistency? I'm sure if manu hadn't won anything but cronaldo had put in the same "performance" he did last season, all the manu fans would still be hailing him as "the best......"
It amazes me how much so many people put the emphasis on any one person "winning" something to quantify him as a being great or "the greatest" player or not. During RvN's last years at manu, they were going through a goalkeeping crisis between the Barthez and VdS eras (caused by fergie, if you ask me) that very much contributed to their barren run. What would have manu accomplished the last two seasons without VdS? What would Spain an/or RM won the last few years without Casillas' consistency? I'm sure if manu hadn't won anything but cronaldo had put in the same "performance" he did last season, all the manu fans would still be hailing him as "the best......"
Mango I on kicks... de truth is I rate F. Torres and L. Messi higher than Ronaldo....! I doh even feel he beats all that... either...! But is funny to see how people opinion is.... is like who is the greatest baller ever debate...!
Money talks.....Good move for ManU, more money to buy other good players.....Maybe they can keep tev now
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8094720.stm
:o
wow.....kaka, ronaldo and messi in the same league.... ;D
where does real madrid get all dis money from to finance these signings....loans?
General Franco's team will always have money, from the Government or King or whoever. Madrid will not sit back and see Barca win everything. That hurt them alot.
General Franco's team will always have money, from the Government or King or whoever. Madrid will not sit back and see Barca win everything. That hurt them alot.
I hear that the last time Madrid needed money, the Government buy the training ground for 200 Million, and rent it out to Real for $1/day.
General Franco's team will always have money, from the Government or King or whoever. Madrid will not sit back and see Barca win everything. That hurt them alot.
I hear that the last time Madrid needed money, the Government buy the training ground for 200 Million, and rent it out to Real for $1/day.
Steups keep yuh arse quiet if you ent know what you talking bout...
Real was in debt and owned prime property in Madrid (training ground)... in a master stroke of business they sold the property in the city and built a training ground on the outskirts of Madrid cheaper and got themselves out of debt at the same time
Steups keep yuh arse quiet if you ent know what you talking bout...
Real was in debt and owned prime property in Madrid (training ground)... in a master stroke of business they sold the property in the city and built a training ground on the outskirts of Madrid cheaper and got themselves out of debt at the same time
but FF, the statement wasn't entirely untrue..
yeah the training ground was on prime Madrid property, but everyone knows it wasn't 200 million prime.
master stroke of business my ass.. dat is what yuh call the quintessential bly!
imagine all them Man U men feeling - especially the ones who pre-order the new kit with Ronaldo name and number on it.
:rotfl:
biggest club in the world. lol.
imagine all them Man U men feeling - especially the ones who pre-order the new kit with Ronaldo name and number on it.
:rotfl:
biggest club in the world. lol.
what i rubbing my hands and waiting for is all his staunch defenders to jump ship and turn haters..
just wait... it coming.
imagine all them Man U men feeling - especially the ones who pre-order the new kit with Ronaldo name and number on it.
:rotfl:
biggest club in the world. lol.
what i rubbing my hands and waiting for is all his staunch defenders to jump ship and turn haters..
just wait... it coming.
imagine all them Man U men feeling - especially the ones who pre-order the new kit with Ronaldo name and number on it.
:rotfl:
biggest club in the world. lol.
what i rubbing my hands and waiting for is all his staunch defenders to jump ship and turn haters..
just wait... it coming.
Most of them already turn haters last summer. They know he was on borrowed time for a year
General Franco's team will always have money, from the Government or King or whoever. Madrid will not sit back and see Barca win everything. That hurt them alot.
I hear that the last time Madrid needed money, the Government buy the training ground for 200 Million, and rent it out to Real for $1/day.
Steups keep yuh arse quiet if you ent know what you talking bout...
Real was in debt and owned prime property in Madrid (training ground)... in a master stroke of business they sold the property in the city and built a training ground on the outskirts of Madrid cheaper and got themselves out of debt at the same time
but FF, the statement wasn't entirely untrue..
yeah the training ground was on prime Madrid property, but everyone knows it wasn't 200 million prime.
master stroke of business my ass.. dat is what yuh call the quintessential bly!
Robben
Sneijder
Van Der Vaart
Kaka
Ronaldo
Huntelaar
RVN
Raul
Guti
Higuain
De la Red
Gago
Saviola
....and they not done yet
Robben
Sneijder
Van Der Vaart
Kaka
Ronaldo
Huntelaar
RVN
Raul
Guti
Higuain
De la Red
Gago
Saviola
....and they not done yet
ammmm..a few a dem gonna be riding soon
Ruud, Saviola, de la red(we eh know wha goin on with his health situation)
Huntelaar vex and might ride worse yet if Villa reach
would love to know where these sides gettin all this money from jus so in this present economy??
and the majority of these sides in debt before anyway!!
side like Madrid and Chelsea reporting losses...i tink down to Man Utd and all!
'000's a millions toowtf!
but big up Real...like yaself
i wanna see all d bandwaggonists flock to La Liga now..Barca and now Real with all these signings...and possibly David Villa next!!
we gonna see REAL plenty Madrid and Barca shirts in trini
LOL
would love to know where these sides gettin all this money from jus so in this present economy??
and the majority of these sides in debt before anyway!!
side like Madrid and Chelsea reporting losses...i tink down to Man Utd and all!
'000's a millions too
wtf!
but big up Real...like yaself
i wanna see all d bandwaggonists flock to La Liga now..Barca and now Real with all these signings...and possibly David Villa next!!
we gonna see REAL plenty Madrid and Barca shirts in trini
LOL
Does that mean Tevez stayin?
Does that mean Tevez stayin?
Tevez and he agent done have one setta badmind towards Man U hierarchy, since they didn't want to pay him the money, and tell him he could ride if he want.
Imagine if Man U come back and say, "ok - now we willing to pay what allyuh was asking in the first place" - If I was Tevez and Kia, I would ask for 20M more, a bronze statue of Tevez for SAF to kiss everytime he walk in the stadium, a curfew 4 hours after everybody else, strip steak on request, and four front row cushioned stadium seats to every event at Old Trafford.
Small Mag .... how dat "foursome" signature at the bottom of yuh profile doing? LOL.
Does that mean Tevez stayin?
Tevez and he agent done have one setta badmind towards Man U hierarchy, since they didn't want to pay him the money, and tell him he could ride if he want.
Real Madrid making a serious leap forward. When yuh have a squad like dat, it eh hard for de club to attract other players. Is real people go want to play for dem now. Man U supporters cyah be happy about this at all.yuh mad or wha...what star will go there and want to be on de bench?????????
Real Madrid making a serious leap forward. When yuh have a squad like dat, it eh hard for de club to attract other players. Is real people go want to play for dem now. Man U supporters cyah be happy about this at all.yuh mad or wha...what star will go there and want to be on de bench?????????
well it doesn't matter who they sign.. whether or not they go and buy ribery, villa, terry, gerrard, eto'o and messi...
IMO, their signing of the season is actually Manuel Pellegrini.
Very confident that Pellegrini will bring a nice flowing and balanced brand of football back to the Bernabeu- of the three major signings so far, that's the one I'm most excited about.
Thanks for the great years at the club.... massive 3 seasons from 06-09...got us back to the top
but we cant deny him his dream any longer.. thanks for the 80 million and good luck at Madrid
Viva Ronaldo
Thanks for the great years at the club.... massive 3 seasons from 06-09...got us back to the top
but we cant deny him his dream any longer.. thanks for the 80 million and good luck at Madrid
Viva Ronaldo
Wait forgive my naivety, don't top players dream of playing at the top clubs? So if the "top" player dreaming of playing at Real Madrid then Real is a bigger club than Man United?
Told y'all as long as Man United did not win CL, he gone.
Manchester United = Feeder club for bigger and better teams ;)(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/thankyouronaldosig.jpg)
If you move from Utd to a circus club like Real it is a step down.. actually from United to any club is a step down...
Thanks for the great years at the club.... massive 3 seasons from 06-09...got us back to the top
but we cant deny him his dream any longer.. thanks for the 80 million and good luck at Madrid
Viva Ronaldo
Wait forgive my naivety, don't top players dream of playing at the top clubs? So if the "top" player dreaming of playing at Real Madrid then Real is a bigger club than Man United?
Told y'all as long as Man United did not win CL, he gone.
If you move from Utd to a circus club like Real it is a step down.. actually from United to any club is a step down...
But he's always wanted this move.. he's portugese..Spain is very similar..his family is closer and his Family are huge madrid fans
I'm not upset because I knew it was coming...I'm just angry because Madrid are buying all the f**king replacements
Also Elan...why arent Madrid targeting your (Chelski's) players? oh .. cuz they are shite
Manchester United = Feeder club for bigger and better teams ;)
Manchester United = Feeder club for bigger and better teams ;)Hows things at Chelsea btw? I hear Deco has spoken about his desire to leave and Bayern are weighing up a bid for Bosingwa.
Anybody notice that C. Homoaldo not in any of the celebratory pictures?
edit: I now make him out dey, but even on TV Sat he look like he was dey begrudgingly.
Are you f**king serious? When the trophy was about to be lifted he was behind Gary Neville ready to explode with happiness.. I was a little surprised by how up for it he was... and as soon as the trophy was lifted he grabbed nev and they all started celebrating
Here asshole
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/ronnyandfam.jpg)
Doe study our players... Study Messi saying he willing to talk to Perez
I wouldnt say he's the world's best..I think he and Xavi are the World's most dangerous partnership...they compliment each other unbelievably
As for World's best...its between the young Argentine and Cristiano... Both had good games yesterday but IMO Cristiano was more involved
But Messi deserves his world player of the year award as CR7 was not as consistent as last year... watch out next season though ;)
Seriously, what game you was watching?
I found Messi was good last night...but not that involved as he normally is... Cristiano imo was very good...
I could understand their reasons for preferring the La Liga.. weather and language have a major influence..
Perez is an embarrassment.. Real as well.. they have no respect to any club.. you ever hear any clubs announcing their targets and publicly boasting that they will sign.. but i guess he has to do it to win over the fans but it's a little embarrassing
I hope he continues to talk about Cristiano and get a big f**k off from Fergie...again
From The Times
June 11, 2009
Sir Alex Ferguson in fight to halt exodus after record £80m Cristiano Ronaldo deal
Sir Alex Ferguson could lose two more of his Manchester United stars in the wake of Cristiano Ronaldo’s £80 million world-record transfer to Real Madrid.
Despite Ronaldo’s impending exit from Old Trafford, Carlos Tévez, the Argentina striker, still wants to leave the club and United are bracing themselves for offers from Barcelona, and possibly Real, for Nemanja Vidic.
Vidic’s wife, Ana, is growing increasingly unsettled in Manchester and wants to move to a warmer climate. Pep Guardiola, the Barcelona coach, is hoping to exploit the situation by making a £25 million bid for the Serbia defender.
Ferguson will fight tooth and nail to keep Vidic, who has three years left on his contract, but despite telephoning Tévez to urge him to stay, the United manager appears to be chasing a lost cause. Manchester City lead the pursuit of the striker’s signature, ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea.
United have lined up Antonio Valencia, the Wigan Athletic and Ecuador winger, as a replacement for Ronaldo, but in the event that Tévez leaves, Ferguson will be forced, reluctantly, to go back into the transfer market for another player.
Ferguson admires Franck Ribéry, the Bayern Munich winger, and Karim Benzema, the Lyons striker, but the United manager may be reluctant to do business given the prices being quoted by their respective clubs.
Bayern want €75 million (£64 million) for Ribéry and Lyons €50 million for Benzema, who is only 21 and remains largely unproven outside of his native France.
“We have said we will only deal under certain conditions,” Uli Hoeness, the Bayern general manager, said. “Namely, if the others want to do really crazy things.”
Remarkably, it took United only two hours to agree to Real’s offer for Ronaldo. David Gill, the United chief executive, was making his way to Geneva for a meeting with Fifa officials when his office received a fax from the Spanish club at about 6pm on Wednesday. Sources close to Gill insist that there was no warning from Real that a bid would be forthcoming.
Gill telephoned Ferguson first, then contacted Ronaldo’s camp, before the matter was taken to the Glazer family, the club’s owners, who insisted that the ultimate decision rested with Ferguson, at which point the manager gave the green light to sell the Portugal forward.
The news brought to an end a bitter three-year tug-of-war between the clubs, although it was greeted with an angry reaction by Michel Platini, the Uefa president. He described the fee as a “serious challenge to the idea of fair play” and vowed to establish new rules governing transfers in an effort to “clean up the system”.
It is understood that United will receive the fee in four annual instalments of £20 million. Sources close to the Glazer family insist that Ferguson will be free to reinvest the money on players, despite the club being faced with an interest bill of £69 million last year on their £699 million of debt.
In financial terms, though, the real winner is Ronaldo, 24, who is expected to sign a six-year contract before being formally confirmed as a Real player on July 1.
His salary will start at £9.5 million a year, rising 25 per cent annually to a staggering £29 million — or just over £557,500 a week — in the final year. He stands to earn up to £107 million.
Real’s outlay on Ronaldo and Kaká, who joined for £56 million this week, could total £330 million, with the club paying more than £1 million a week in wages for the pair come the 2014-2015 season.
ronaldo bought for 12 Mil sold for 80 mil, good piece of business, Nani time to step up now......
ronaldo bought for 12 Mil sold for 80 mil, good piece of business, Nani time to step up now......
Discount that over 6 seasons by the rate at which he's actually gotten better (i.e. Madrid isn't buying the same merchandise that Man U bought six seasons ago) plus the rate of inflation (i.e what cost 12M six seasons ago costs ALOT more than 12M today)...... and that "piece of business" is not as good as you might actually think.
ronaldo bought for 12 Mil sold for 80 mil, good piece of business, Nani time to step up now......
Discount that over 6 seasons by the rate at which he's actually gotten better (i.e. Madrid isn't buying the same merchandise that Man U bought six seasons ago) plus the rate of inflation (i.e what cost 12M six seasons ago costs ALOT more than 12M today)...... and that "piece of business" is not as good as you might actually think.
Still real dam good by any standards. Still nearly a 40% IRR. Any investor will snatch that
ronaldo bought for 12 Mil sold for 80 mil, good piece of business, Nani time to step up now......
Discount that over 6 seasons by the rate at which he's actually gotten better (i.e. Madrid isn't buying the same merchandise that Man U bought six seasons ago) plus the rate of inflation (i.e what cost 12M six seasons ago costs ALOT more than 12M today)...... and that "piece of business" is not as good as you might actually think.
Still real dam good by any standards. Still nearly a 40% IRR. Any investor will snatch that
No way them two players worth that...... and they still wont win the league again next season
cristiano ronaldo is more complete bs than messi, thats what should be said..
Current Ballon d'or and FIFA world player of the year, enough said.
Marca is a madrid mouthpiece lets not forget that.
Total madness trying to compare a general ala messi with a private ala ronaldo.....not even close.....
Total madness trying to compare a general ala messi with a private ala ronaldo.....not even close.....;D
I've said it before, (time and time again) and I'll say it again.....there's a market for the razzle-dazzle, glittery, shiny football that is cronaldo just like there is a market for ugly shoes. If bata make a cheap, ugly pair ah bullets, SOMEbody go buy dem! But that's all good and well for the people that like them. Messi, on the other hand, is more like a pair of Bally's. Soft leather, excellent craftsmanship, very comfortable, classy, stylish classic finish. More people like Bally's than like the Bata bullets.lol point taken but lil harsh to imply cronaldo to a bata bullets tho
I will not deride a Real Madrid player. Omar, Ronaldo has been plaing very well for Real Madrid. The Clasico was his first game back after a two month injury and he still was not poor or irrelevant. He actually had the best chance of the game and if it hadn't been his first game back after injury, he would have scored and that Clasico would have been a different story. He's also playing well in the CL. He has 13 goals in 12 games and those weren't against shittong teams either.
He and Messi can't be compared because they are very different players but most coaches would give a lot to have either one on their teams. But now that Messi has won FIFA World Player of the Year, he is now good enough to come and play for Madrid. ;D
I've said it before, (time and time again) and I'll say it again.....there's a market for the razzle-dazzle, glittery, shiny football that is cronaldo just like there is a market for ugly shoes. If bata make a cheap, ugly pair ah bullets, SOMEbody go buy dem! But that's all good and well for the people that like them. Messi, on the other hand, is more like a pair of Bally's. Soft leather, excellent craftsmanship, very comfortable, classy, stylish classic finish. More people like Bally's than like the Bata bullets.
That is some :bs:
Messi = big player in big games = superior mental capabilities
Messi = central player with high pass success rate = better passer than wing player.
Messi = constantly leading his team to silverware = greater leadership qualities.
Messi = dominant central player = more complete player.
Ronaldo have ALL the tools...Messi know how to use the ones he have effectively.
Messi CANNOT take a freekick better than Ronaldo, neither can he do it consistently....Yuh have to give the hen he pips he have a dipping toe-pee that unstoppable from 40 yards.
Messi not heading better than him either.
Is a arguement because now is 2 rival Spanish teams. When Manu was winning Ronaldo was the man. Now Barca winning and Messi is a part of that is his turn.
Besides the beat and dribbling...Ronaldo have the edge on Messi.
Messi is very good,good enough to be FIFA player of the year ,but until he start scoring with both feet ,Ronaldo will always be a more complete player than him .
Messi is very good,good enough to be FIFA player of the year ,but until he start scoring with both feet ,Ronaldo will always be a more complete player than him .
Ronaldo have ALL the tools...Messi know how to use the ones he have effectively.
Messi CANNOT take a freekick better than Ronaldo, neither can he do it consistently....Yuh have to give the hen he pips he have a dipping toe-pee that unstoppable from 40 yards.
Messi not heading better than him either.
Is a arguement because now is 2 rival Spanish teams. When Manu was winning Ronaldo was the man. Now Barca winning and Messi is a part of that is his turn.
Besides the beat and dribbling...Ronaldo have the edge on Messi.
Yeah Kicker it sould be taken down :rotfl:
He was the best player in the World...Madrid wanted him..he wanted them... would we keep an unhappy player and risk dressing room unrest? No way..If you want to go..then go.
Yes we've suffered this season because we've missed him but that's not his fault..that's the Glazers and Fergie's fault..with their shallow pockets and Fergs old school thinking...somebody needs to give him a lesson on inflation and remind him we live in 2010 and it's not the 90's where we can get good deals for big experienced players who will give us the impact we need...
Hopefully he realises that now as United have hit the Empty sign on their fuel in the most important period of the season...something we never do
Pathetic end to the season...
He was the best player in the World...Madrid wanted him..he wanted them... would we keep an unhappy player and risk dressing room unrest? No way..If you want to go..then go.
Yes we've suffered this season because we've missed him but that's not his fault..that's the Glazers and Fergie's fault..with their shallow pockets and Fergs old school thinking...somebody needs to give him a lesson on inflation and remind him we live in 2010 and it's not the 90's where we can get good deals for big experienced players who will give us the impact we need...
Hopefully he realises that now as United have hit the Empty sign on their fuel in the most important period of the season...something we never do
Pathetic end to the season...
He was the best player in the World...Madrid wanted him..he wanted them... would we keep an unhappy player and risk dressing room unrest? No way..If you want to go..then go.
Yes we've suffered this season because we've missed him but that's not his fault..that's the Glazers and Fergie's fault..with their shallow pockets and Fergs old school thinking...somebody needs to give him a lesson on inflation and remind him we live in 2010 and it's not the 90's where we can get good deals for big experienced players who will give us the impact we need...
Hopefully he realises that now as United have hit the Empty sign on their fuel in the most important period of the season...something we never do
Pathetic end to the season...
Small Mag i really think that Manu made the right move in selling Ronaldo. At the time, they were in massive debt, and Ronaldo was becoming (or became if you read some other reports) a problem in the locker room. The mistake Manu made was not finding an adequate strike partner for Rooney. Mind you, I never said find a replacement for Ronaldo because truth be told, you cannot replace his talent. Because of his departure, Rooney has flourished into the world class player he has destined to be, Nani has shown glimpses of being the outstanding talent he is, and several youth players were able to get a chance that may not have developed if CR9 was there causing problems. Outside of finding a goal scorer I think Manu did the right thing. On d other hand, Real did the wrong thing thinking that he was going to be the player to carry them to the promise land. Real have bigger problems than there attack. There midfield isnt strong at all, especially on the defensive front, and there defense is quite suspect. Hopefully they will address those in the off season, but Manu did the right thing at that time in selling him IMO. :beermug:
But Real playing better than they have in years. They say Pelligrini concede less at this stage of the season(at least prior to the Barca game) than his last four predecessors and the team not playing a defensive brand. I think they just suffering cause they being compared to what is proving to be the greatest Barca side ever (which is a real big pips, cause Barca have had some great sides).[/b]
People just doh like Pelligrini cause he doh have the name. Real win 12 in a row before this weekend. The game against Lyon when they get knockout, they play all over than side...up and own the pitch without scoring a goal.
Barca just out of this world right now so Real looking poor in comparison.
ManU prove to be a one man side though. But that is Berbatov fault moreso than Fergie cause I find he get his chances to shine and he has shown that he can't be a match winner. He could probably play when there is no pressure on him to produce.
He was the best player in the World...Madrid wanted him..he wanted them... would we keep an unhappy player and risk dressing room unrest? No way..If you want to go..then go.
Yes we've suffered this season because we've missed him but that's not his fault..that's the Glazers and Fergie's fault..with their shallow pockets and Fergs old school thinking...somebody needs to give him a lesson on inflation and remind him we live in 2010 and it's not the 90's where we can get good deals for big experienced players who will give us the impact we need...
Hopefully he realises that now as United have hit the Empty sign on their fuel in the most important period of the season...something we never do
Pathetic end to the season...
Small Mag i really think that Manu made the right move in selling Ronaldo. At the time, they were in massive debt, and Ronaldo was becoming (or became if you read some other reports) a problem in the locker room. The mistake Manu made was not finding an adequate strike partner for Rooney. Mind you, I never said find a replacement for Ronaldo because truth be told, you cannot replace his talent. Because of his departure, Rooney has flourished into the world class player he has destined to be, Nani has shown glimpses of being the outstanding talent he is, and several youth players were able to get a chance that may not have developed if CR9 was there causing problems. Outside of finding a goal scorer I think Manu did the right thing. On d other hand, Real did the wrong thing thinking that he was going to be the player to carry them to the promise land. Real have bigger problems than there attack. There midfield isnt strong at all, especially on the defensive front, and there defense is quite suspect. Hopefully they will address those in the off season, but Manu did the right thing at that time in selling him IMO. :beermug:
Yea United did the right thing..Fergie always boasts we got 6 years out of him..which he found an amazing achievement due to Cristiano's desire to go Madrid.. He had to go
As for strike partner for Rooney...4-4-2 seems to be dead at United...which is a shame because Berbatov's creativity really shows in a 4-4-2 when we use 2 natural wingers and Wazza as the his strike partner...watch the highlights..Berba is always involved in either a goal or any chance we create.. be it assist or assisting the assist or the rare goal....For the life of me I dont understand why we dont use it more often..We keep the ball more..we look better and we score more...when we play the 4-5-1 we rely heavily on Rooney and we seem to always be second best..the only time i've seen it work to perfection this season is Arsenal away... every other time we had likwe 30-40% of possession and Rooney would score... but Rooney also scored 4 in a game due to Berbatov's brilliance in a 4-4-2
If we play 4-4-2 next season Berba will stay...If we play 4-5-1 we might as well sell him because he cannot play up top alone(he drops too deep as he wants the ball alot) and he's too good to be on the bench
I still think Rooney plays betetr alongside a mobile striker such as Saha or Tevez but I think the fans have been robbed by Fergie to see the Berba Rooney partnership that I believe can work...
Anyway who am I to question Fergie but I think he needs to trust his record signing a bit more
Viva Berbatov
De big problem is de centre of de park for the 4-4-2. Carrick playing mess.....fletcher decent...anderson either injured or playing de ass.....scholes is a card waiting to happen...giggs age showing....haregraves eh have the confidence. Oshea now come back. Dat essentially was the problem in my view..and things might have gone differently. In addition...berbatov eh facing up to the pressure....and putting himself under more. Owen always injured. Tevez mighta be good..just his impatience do him in...cuz...if ronaldo didnt get sold...dey wouldnt have had any money to make him an offer..and by the time that came through.....he already made up his mind to leave.
All in all....fergie did a good piece of business letting ronaldo go. In fact he only let him go because he knew he could get through without him...and he almost did. Yuh hadda remember nobody gave them ANY chance of being in contention for anything...and they still performed creditably.
De big problem is de centre of de park for the 4-4-2. Carrick playing mess.....fletcher decent...anderson either injured or playing de ass.....scholes is a card waiting to happen...giggs age showing....haregraves eh have the confidence. Oshea now come back. Dat essentially was the problem in my view..and things might have gone differently. In addition...berbatov eh facing up to the pressure....and putting himself under more. Owen always injured. Tevez mighta be good..just his impatience do him in...cuz...if ronaldo didnt get sold...dey wouldnt have had any money to make him an offer..and by the time that came through.....he already made up his mind to leave.
All in all....fergie did a good piece of business letting ronaldo go. In fact he only let him go because he knew he could get through without him...and he almost did. Yuh hadda remember nobody gave them ANY chance of being in contention for anything...and they still performed creditably.
De big problem is de centre of de park for the 4-4-2. Carrick playing mess.....fletcher decent...anderson either injured or playing de ass.....scholes is a card waiting to happen...giggs age showing....haregraves eh have the confidence. Oshea now come back. Dat essentially was the problem in my view..and things might have gone differently. In addition...berbatov eh facing up to the pressure....and putting himself under more. Owen always injured. Tevez mighta be good..just his impatience do him in...cuz...if ronaldo didnt get sold...dey wouldnt have had any money to make him an offer..and by the time that came through.....he already made up his mind to leave.
All in all....fergie did a good piece of business letting ronaldo go. In fact he only let him go because he knew he could get through without him...and he almost did. Yuh hadda remember nobody gave them ANY chance of being in contention for anything...and they still performed creditably.
Midfield would have always been the problem this season... our CM's are either deep lying playmakers or defensive minded CM'S... not one is a goalscoring midfielder or very attack minded....we play 4-5-1 with no attacking link between midfield and strikers.. we depend on Rooney Nani Valencia... we need a player to link the play..the final piece of the jigsaw... Fergie's major blunder was not getting Sneijder as part of the Ronaldo deal..
Modric is the player United fans want..and Xavi but he isnt going anywhere
But Real playing better than they have in years. They say Pelligrini concede less at this stage of the season(at least prior to the Barca game) than his last four predecessors and the team not playing a defensive brand. I think they just suffering cause they being compared to what is proving to be the greatest Barca side ever (which is a real big pips, cause Barca have had some great sides).
People just doh like Pelligrini cause he doh have the name. Real win 12 in a row before this weekend. The game against Lyon when they get knockout, they play all over than side...up and own the pitch without scoring a goal.
Barca just out of this world right now so Real looking poor in comparison.
ManU prove to be a one man side though. But that is Berbatov fault moreso than Fergie cause I find he get his chances to shine and he has shown that he can't be a match winner. He could probably play when there is no pressure on him to produce.
He was the best player in the World...Madrid wanted him..he wanted them... would we keep an unhappy player and risk dressing room unrest? No way..If you want to go..then go.
Yes we've suffered this season because we've missed him but that's not his fault..that's the Glazers and Fergie's fault..with their shallow pockets and Fergs old school thinking...somebody needs to give him a lesson on inflation and remind him we live in 2010 and it's not the 90's where we can get good deals for big experienced players who will give us the impact we need...
Hopefully he realises that now as United have hit the Empty sign on their fuel in the most important period of the season...something we never do
Pathetic end to the season...
The article should be titled Kaka transfer costly to Milan, madrid.
The article should be titled Kaka transfer costly to Milan, madrid.clearly
The article should be titled Kaka transfer costly to Milan, madrid.
He was the best player in the World...Madrid wanted him..he wanted them... would we keep an unhappy player and risk dressing room unrest? No way..If you want to go..then go.
Yes we've suffered this season because we've missed him but that's not his fault..that's the Glazers and Fergie's fault..with their shallow pockets and Fergs old school thinking...somebody needs to give him a lesson on inflation and remind him we live in 2010 and it's not the 90's where we can get good deals for big experienced players who will give us the impact we need...
Hopefully he realises that now as United have hit the Empty sign on their fuel in the most important period of the season...something we never do
Pathetic end to the season...
This is the most level-headed cuss free post I ever read from you.
Sadly, I know this post is the exception and not the rule.
He was the best player in the World...Madrid wanted him..he wanted them... would we keep an unhappy player and risk dressing room unrest? No way..If you want to go..then go.
Yes we've suffered this season because we've missed him but that's not his fault..that's the Glazers and Fergie's fault..with their shallow pockets and Fergs old school thinking...somebody needs to give him a lesson on inflation and remind him we live in 2010 and it's not the 90's where we can get good deals for big experienced players who will give us the impact we need...
Hopefully he realises that now as United have hit the Empty sign on their fuel in the most important period of the season...something we never do
Pathetic end to the season...
He was the best player in the World...Madrid wanted him..he wanted them... would we keep an unhappy player and risk dressing room unrest? No way..If you want to go..then go.
Yes we've suffered this season because we've missed him but that's not his fault..that's the Glazers and Fergie's fault..with their shallow pockets and Fergs old school thinking...somebody needs to give him a lesson on inflation and remind him we live in 2010 and it's not the 90's where we can get good deals for big experienced players who will give us the impact we need...
Hopefully he realises that now as United have hit the Empty sign on their fuel in the most important period of the season...something we never do
Pathetic end to the season...
As contradictory a statement as ever there was... unless it is your argument that the latter gave rise to the former.
He was the best player in the World...Madrid wanted him..he wanted them... would we keep an unhappy player and risk dressing room unrest? No way..If you want to go..then go.
Yes we've suffered this season because we've missed him but that's not his fault..that's the Glazers and Fergie's fault..with their shallow pockets and Fergs old school thinking...somebody needs to give him a lesson on inflation and remind him we live in 2010 and it's not the 90's where we can get good deals for big experienced players who will give us the impact we need...
Hopefully he realises that now as United have hit the Empty sign on their fuel in the most important period of the season...something we never do
Pathetic end to the season...
As contradictory a statement as ever there was... unless it is your argument that the latter gave rise to the former.
The article should be titled Kaka transfer costly to Milan, madrid.
De big problem is de centre of de park for the 4-4-2. Carrick playing mess.....fletcher decent...anderson either injured or playing de ass.....scholes is a card waiting to happen...giggs age showing....haregraves eh have the confidence. Oshea now come back. Dat essentially was the problem in my view..and things might have gone differently. In addition...berbatov eh facing up to the pressure....and putting himself under more. Owen always injured. Tevez mighta be good..just his impatience do him in...cuz...if ronaldo didnt get sold...dey wouldnt have had any money to make him an offer..and by the time that came through.....he already made up his mind to leave.
All in all....fergie did a good piece of business letting ronaldo go. In fact he only let him go because he knew he could get through without him...and he almost did. Yuh hadda remember nobody gave them ANY chance of being in contention for anything...and they still performed creditably.
Midfield would have always been the problem this season... our CM's are either deep lying playmakers or defensive minded CM'S... not one is a goalscoring midfielder or very attack minded....we play 4-5-1 with no attacking link between midfield and strikers.. we depend on Rooney Nani Valencia... we need a player to link the play..the final piece of the jigsaw... Fergie's major blunder was not getting Sneijder as part of the Ronaldo deal..
Modric is the player United fans want..and Xavi but he isnt going anywhere
I think Sir Alex expected alot more from Nani this season, otherwise he wud have spent more heavily last summer. Personally I still think Nani will turn out to be world class, hopefully not at United, lol.
But apart from him and Rooney, yall dont have any other offensive players with world class ability or potential.
And the Tevez affair was most likely out of Sir Alex's hands - no matter how much he offered, Man City cud have topped it. So he called his price and stuck to it. It was the right thing to do.
na I didnt mean it as it was their fault Ronaldo left..I meant it is their fault we didnt try to replace the quality Tevez and Ronaldo contributed
What was contradictory here? They suffered because they missed his goal-scoring ability and management was too cheap to buy a suitable replacement.
na I didnt mean it as it was their fault Ronaldo left..I meant it is their fault we didnt try to replace the quality Tevez and Ronaldo contributedWhat was contradictory here? They suffered because they missed his goal-scoring ability and management was too cheap to buy a suitable replacement.
As written the statement was open to different interpretations... Small Mag elaborated on his point above and I understand what it is he was trying to say now. Before it seemed to imply that the fault for his departure could be laid at the feet of management.
He was the best player in the World...Madrid wanted him..he wanted them... would we keep an unhappy player and risk dressing room unrest? No way..If you want to go..then go.
Yes we've suffered this season because we've missed him but that's not his fault..that's the Glazers and Fergie's fault..with their shallow pockets and Fergs old school thinking...somebody needs to give him a lesson on inflation and remind him we live in 2010 and it's not the 90's where we can get good deals for big experienced players who will give us the impact we need...
Hopefully he realises that now as United have hit the Empty sign on their fuel in the most important period of the season...something we never do
Pathetic end to the season...
This is the most level-headed cuss free post I ever read from you.
Sadly, I know this post is the exception and not the rule.
I cant be level headed in response to you and men like elan and dinho... that is the rule
The article should be titled Kaka transfer costly to Milan, madrid.
Could be tilted even more...
Xabi Alonso transfer costly for Liverpool, Madrid
;D
Scored 2 and set up 2 to take his grand total to 40 league goals(a new record) in 34 la liga games and his overall tally:
53 goals in 54 games this season and his 86th goal in 89 games for Real Madrid overall
Messi is the best overall player in the world but even If you hate the man swag etc he is a living legend and he and Messi are on another planet
It would be foolish to ignore his accomplishments ... It saddens me he is doing it with another team and not United but he is a legend at Old Trafford in my eyes and many others and I still enjoy watching any game with him as he is pure class.
Fergie sign him up..again ;) ;D
:beermug: :beermug:
Scored 2 and set up 2 to take his grand total to 40 league goals(a new record) in 34 la liga games and his overall tally:
53 goals in 54 games this season and his 86th goal in 89 games for Real Madrid overall
Messi is the best overall player in the world but even If you hate the man swag etc he is a living legend and he and Messi are on another planet
It would be foolish to ignore his accomplishments ... It saddens me he is doing it with another team and not United but he is a legend at Old Trafford in my eyes and many others and I still enjoy watching any game with him as he is pure class.
Fergie sign him up..again ;) ;D
:beermug: :beermug:
Yeah, we all know how much you loved him after a certain game in WC 2006 eh ;) :devil:
But class is class, big up to CRonaldo! :beermug: He did it in England and now in Spain! If only he can stop the bitching and whining! :thumbsup:
Big Up!
Scored 2 and set up 2 to take his grand total to 40 league goals(a new record) in 34 la liga games and his overall tally:
53 goals in 54 games this season and his 86th goal in 89 games for Real Madrid overall
Messi is the best overall player in the world but even If you hate the man swag etc he is a living legend and he and Messi are on another planet
It would be foolish to ignore his accomplishments ... It saddens me he is doing it with another team and not United but he is a legend at Old Trafford in my eyes and many others and I still enjoy watching any game with him as he is pure class.
Fergie sign him up..again ;) ;D
:beermug: :beermug:
Yeah, we all know how much you loved him after a certain game in WC 2006 eh ;) :devil:
But class is class, big up to CRonaldo! :beermug: He did it in England and now in Spain! If only he can stop the bitching and whining! :thumbsup:
Big Up!
De man just score in the last minute of injury time to give Portugal de win yes
I picked up the game from about the 75th min, the Danes from what I saw had the better of the exchanges and CR7 wasn't really relevant. Near the end he started to come on strong with effort, hustle and speed. The Danes almost converted a free kick in injury time but CR7 made them pay for not executing. The guy just has the will to win in his veins bc I said to myself that's it, tied game and then.....De man just score in the last minute of injury time to give Portugal de win yes
I had to step away from this game in the 74' ... picked it up from about 30'. The Danes were very enterprising and arguably deserved a reward for their tenacity and attacking verve, but I always held the sense that Portugal would reap the points. The Danes played like the home team. They will feel this result.
This Portugal looked to possess more balanced qualities than the one I saw in the run up to Brazil. CR7 didn't seem particularly relevant to the outcome during the portion of the game I viewed, but he forced Schmeichel to commit to a ball that proved Denmark's undoing. All in a day's work?