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Title: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: ricky on July 09, 2006, 03:51:21 PM
...different from what Ronaldo did?
Leh me hear allyuh?
you think the french go go on crying about this for 10 years? steupps
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Toppa on July 09, 2006, 04:00:34 PM
What did Buffon do?
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: mr.talented on July 09, 2006, 04:04:28 PM
you comparing rooney stamp to zidane butt? lol

then you make a thread bout it and talking bout crying for ten years?

buffon and zidane is best mates or what?

buahahahahhahahahah....
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: jub02 on July 09, 2006, 04:23:27 PM
is buffon and zidane good mates..do dey play the same club?
And i think rooney " stamp " is a lil less worse than zidane head butt..and we no this was no accident.

an intresting point tho..
The same ref from the game between england and portugal...i bet u he didnt see it..and he herd buffon but he didnt wanna be seen as the ref who listened to players ( ronaldo ) - even if he did or didnt. So he pretend to go up 2 the assistant ref ( who also didnt see it ) and then he send him off.
The ref overall did ok tho.
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Grande on July 09, 2006, 04:27:29 PM
What did Buffon do?

i wondering that myself
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: jub02 on July 09, 2006, 04:31:21 PM
What did Buffon do?

i wondering that myself

he jus shouting at the ref coz he see clear what happen and the ref was giving nothing...jus like the england portugal game..then he had to ask the assistant what happen
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Toppa on July 09, 2006, 04:33:02 PM
is buffon and zidane good mates..do dey play the same club?
And i think rooney " stamp " is a lil less worse than zidane head butt..and we no this was no accident.

an intresting point tho..
The same ref from the game between england and portugal...i bet u he didnt see it..and he herd buffon but he didnt wanna be seen as the ref who listened to players ( ronaldo ) - even if he did or didnt. So he pretend to go up 2 the assistant ref ( who also didnt see it ) and then he send him off.
The ref overall did ok tho.


How do you know that the assistant ref didn't see it either? I think the referee handle the situation very well.
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: jub02 on July 09, 2006, 04:35:35 PM
is buffon and zidane good mates..do dey play the same club?
And i think rooney " stamp " is a lil less worse than zidane head butt..and we no this was no accident.

an intresting point tho..
The same ref from the game between england and portugal...i bet u he didnt see it..and he herd buffon but he didnt wanna be seen as the ref who listened to players ( ronaldo ) - even if he did or didnt. So he pretend to go up 2 the assistant ref ( who also didnt see it ) and then he send him off.
The ref overall did ok tho.


How do you know that the assistant ref didn't see it either? I think the referee handle the situation very well.

Coz the ref had alredy check with him..i think they got something through ther microphone things or the 5th offical whatever they call em.

Yeah i think the ref dealt with it the right way..it was a red card no question
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: g on July 09, 2006, 04:38:35 PM
Question, do they show replays in the stadium?
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Toppa on July 09, 2006, 04:42:00 PM
Question, do they show replays in the stadium?

Yeah, but the ref spoke to the assitant refs before he made his decision. He didn't go by the replays.
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: g on July 09, 2006, 04:57:59 PM
Question, do they show replays in the stadium?

Yeah, but the ref spoke to the assitant refs before he made his decision. He didn't go by the replays.

Reason I asked was that on bbc they saying that only after the 4th official saw the replay he informed the referee

source

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/france/5152728.stm
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Feliziano on July 09, 2006, 04:59:11 PM
Question, do they show replays in the stadium?
no they dont show replays of contentious calls on the big screens..instead they cut to CC cameras showing shots of the fans etc
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Trinimassive on July 09, 2006, 05:15:12 PM
Yeah they showed the replays while the ref was discussing it with the officials
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 09, 2006, 05:23:33 PM
ricky dis is de stupidest thread you have ever started

zidane butt d man intentionally.... 

and yes d linesman didnt see it or the ref...  buffon literally begged de man    finnaly de peerpressured linesman agreed with him...  and buffon thanked him and brap red card..

now it was a red card  but buffon helped it

rooney own was not a red card but ronaldo demanded it
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: ricky on July 09, 2006, 05:25:47 PM
ricky dis is de stupidest thread you have ever started

zidane butt d man intentionally.... 

and yes d linesman didnt see it or the ref...  buffon literally begged de man     finnaly de peerpressured linesman agreed with him...  and buffon thanked him and brap red card..

now it was a red card  but buffon helped it
rooney own was not a red card but ronaldo demanded it

again small, how was it different??
you know exactly what ronaldo said??
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 09, 2006, 05:31:47 PM
no ricky ...  but he begged for a card...  wat yuh tink he sed foul?  obviously he sed card.... 
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: ricky on July 09, 2006, 05:33:35 PM
no ricky ...  but he begged for a card...  wat yuh tink he sed foul?  obviously he sed card.... 

right you are....just what buffon did as you yourself stated
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 09, 2006, 05:34:54 PM
yeh buffon did beg...and both he and ronaldo got through to the ref...becuz dey are argentine fags
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: ricky on July 09, 2006, 05:37:39 PM
yeh buffon did beg...and both he and ronaldo got through to the ref...becuz dey are argentine fags

 :rotfl: ok but see my point now right?
i dont think the french will jump down on Buffon like the british have ronaldo
yes ronaldo plays in dey league etc, but is d same thing buffon did...ah bet it eh even get mentioned by the press
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 09, 2006, 05:47:41 PM
lol ok cool  ...   allyuh just on a pure hate england epl rooney man utd scene  so i done

goodbye lol
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: mr.talented on July 09, 2006, 05:53:45 PM
this eh no issue...uncomparable...lol
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: ricky on July 09, 2006, 07:34:18 PM
this eh no issue...uncomparable...lol

both plays had fouls in which the fouled teammate ran to the official to appeal for a card
both plays resulted in red cards after it looked like the first call would not be a card
apart from the fact england is involved in 1 match, i ask again....what is the difference??

weather or not you feel the rooney foul was a red card or not is subjective and not an issue here, cause in both cases the teammate of the fouled player thought it was a card.
doh come with that dey teammate crap eida....cause if dey wasn't england would a still be complaining
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: real madness on July 09, 2006, 11:08:01 PM
ricky dis is de stupidest thread you have ever started

zidane butt d man intentionally.... 

and yes d linesman didnt see it or the ref...  buffon literally begged de man    finnaly de peerpressured linesman agreed with him...  and buffon thanked him and brap red card..

now it was a red card  but buffon helped it

rooney own was not a red card but ronaldo demanded it

accept the fact england lost and stop trying to blame ronaldo..de ref gave the card and rooney deserved the card..end of story.
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Savannah boy on July 09, 2006, 11:43:50 PM
and Buffon run from further to influence de ref.
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Pompey on July 10, 2006, 02:36:23 AM
The only difference I see, is the Trini's defending Zidane because of something that was said to him. If Zidane was English, or if it was Rooney who head butted someone, then there would be people on here calling for his blood.

Zidane's head butt was a hell of a lot more obvious than Rooney's stamping as well.

This just looks like another stupid attempt to have a go at the English.  ::)
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 10, 2006, 04:54:38 AM
The only difference I see, is the Trini's defending Zidane because of something that was said to him. If Zidane was English, or if it was Rooney who head butted someone, then there would be people on here calling for his blood.

Zidane's head butt was a hell of a lot more obvious than Rooney's stamping as well.

This just looks like another stupid attempt to have a go at the English.  ::)

pompey once again dont even study these backward no nothing about football trinis

Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 10, 2006, 05:04:41 AM
Question, do they show replays in the stadium?
Yes they do, BUT NOT indicents like zidanes they cut those out.
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: dinho on July 10, 2006, 05:31:42 AM
The only difference I see, is the Trini's defending Zidane because of something that was said to him. If Zidane was English, or if it was Rooney who head butted someone, then there would be people on here calling for his blood.

Zidane's head butt was a hell of a lot more obvious than Rooney's stamping as well.

This just looks like another stupid attempt to have a go at the English.  ::)

its not having a go at the english its an objective question...

what is being questioned is the act of running up to the officials and demanding action for an unsavoury incident..

what is so different in what buffon did.. both he and ronaldo ran up to the official to demand action for an attack on their teammate which is very normal and expected.. i would hate for my teammate to sit idly by while someone stamp me on my stones or headbutt me in my chest...

only difference in that in england's search for a scapegoat, they vilified ronaldo and forced the best young player of the world cup out of the premiership...

notice that "rooney accidental stamp" argument is holding no water...
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Pompey on July 10, 2006, 05:35:34 AM
The only difference I see, is the Trini's defending Zidane because of something that was said to him. If Zidane was English, or if it was Rooney who head butted someone, then there would be people on here calling for his blood.

Zidane's head butt was a hell of a lot more obvious than Rooney's stamping as well.

This just looks like another stupid attempt to have a go at the English.  ::)

its not having a go at the english its an objective question...

what is being questioned is the act of running up to the officials and demanding action for an unsavoury incident..

what is so different in what buffon did.. both he and ronaldo ran up to the official to demand action for an attack on their teammate which is very normal and expected.. i would hate for my teammate to sit idly by while someone stamp me on my stones or headbutt me in my chest...

only difference in that in england's search for a scapegoat, they vilified ronaldo and forced the best young player of the world cup out of the premiership...

notice that "rooney accidental stamp" argument is holding no water...

why not go and take a look at a few French forums and see what they are saying? maybe they are saying the same thing about Buffon as we said about Ronaldo?

Then you can have a go at them like you did us. ::)
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: ricky on July 10, 2006, 08:30:42 AM


why not go and take a look at a few French forums and see what they are saying? maybe they are saying the same thing about Buffon as we said about Ronaldo?

Then you can have a go at them like you did us. ::)

aye midknight, what they saying about buffon in france??
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: dinho on July 10, 2006, 08:38:06 AM
they not saying anything about buffon in france cause they venting their fury at materazzi..

So we can't really make that comparison because they have a culprit in this case to throw their anger at..

what buffon and ronaldo did was the natural reaction and correct thing..

to be honest boy pompey, i guess its in-bred bias which we are all guilty of that prevents us from seeing things objectively when our team is at the centre.. De french want to know what Materazzi say, its his fault he goaded zidane and cause it, gallas say he want to smash his face...

We trinis vex that crouch pull sancho hair and bawling cheat, but in truth and fact, there is no way the ref could have seen that to call it...  if anything i thought the call would have been for climbing on the defender (still cant understand how a man who is 6"7 always needs to climb on opponents for headers)..

i just felt that the english press went a bit overboard on ronaldo and directing ALL the blame his way...  i see in the papers yesterday on one page "Ronaldo the Rat", and on another page Rooney diving off a yacht frolicking and enjoying himself, how come nobody throwing no vitriol his way?

Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: sinned on July 10, 2006, 08:38:59 AM
what buffon did and what ronaldo did are very different..
what buffon did is was run to the referee to draw to his attention an off-the ball foul that the referee did not see..
what ronaldo did was try to influence the referee on a decision on a play the referee was in full view of.

 to blame buffon for anything is ridiculous..if carlos edwards had get headbutt down and shaka run to point it out to the ref it wouldnt even be an argument here ent??
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: ricky on July 10, 2006, 08:41:02 AM
what buffon did and what ronaldo did are very different..
what buffon did is was run to the referee to draw to his attention an off-the ball foul that the referee did not see..
what ronaldo did was try to influence the referee on a decision on a play the referee was in full view of.

 to blame buffon for anything is ridiculous..if carlos edwards had get headbutt down and shaka run to point it out to the ref it wouldnt even be an argument here ent??

this a good point  :beermug:, but i say i dont really agree..intent of both players was to have the other player sent off
omarldinho  post good too, thanks for answering the question guys
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: Pompey on July 10, 2006, 08:52:48 AM
they not saying anything about buffon in france cause they venting their fury at materazzi..

So we can't really make that comparison because they have a culprit in this case to throw their anger at..

what buffon and ronaldo did was the natural reaction and correct thing..

to be honest boy pompey, i guess its in-bred bias which we are all guilty of that prevents us from seeing things objectively when our team is at the centre.. De french want to know what Materazzi say, its his fault he goaded zidane and cause it, gallas say he want to smash his face...

We trinis vex that crouch pull sancho hair and bawling cheat, but in truth and fact, there is no way the ref could have seen that to call it...  if anything i thought the call would have been for climbing on the defender (still cant understand how a man who is 6"7 always needs to climb on opponents for headers)..

i just felt that the english press went a bit overboard on ronaldo and directing ALL the blame his way...  i see in the papers yesterday on one page "Ronaldo the Rat", and on another page Rooney diving off a yacht frolicking and enjoying himself, how come nobody throwing no vitriol his way?



If I was French, I would be venting my fury at Materazzi. But goading players is an age ole tactic and one which you would expect a top pro to be used to.

Not sure what has been reported on here, but I heard that Materazzi called him a Harki, which is an Algerian/French colaborator. ZZ has head butted someone before for calling him that and, apparantly, it was well known in Italy that it wound him up. If that's the case, then ZZ really should know better by now.

I do not want to defend Materazzi if that is what he said though.
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: dinho on July 10, 2006, 08:54:21 AM
what buffon did and what ronaldo did are very different..
what buffon did is was run to the referee to draw to his attention an off-the ball foul that the referee did not see..
what ronaldo did was try to influence the referee on a decision on a play the referee was in full view of.

 to blame buffon for anything is ridiculous..if carlos edwards had get headbutt down and shaka run to point it out to the ref it wouldnt even be an argument here ent??

your attempt to word this differently does not make a difference..

BOTH buffon and ronaldo were attempting to influence the referee into taking action and making a decision.

How does Ronaldo know that the ref saw the stamp on de man balls??
How does Buffon know that the lines didn't see the headbutt??

They both acted instinctively to protect their teammates. Remember.. What we are debating here is not the severity of the respective incidents, but the reaction of the victims' teammates.

If shaka had done it I would not have a problem because I don't have a problem with what Buffon or Ronaldo did either.
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: sinned on July 10, 2006, 09:26:44 AM
what buffon did and what ronaldo did are very different..
what buffon did is was run to the referee to draw to his attention an off-the ball foul that the referee did not see..
what ronaldo did was try to influence the referee on a decision on a play the referee was in full view of.

 to blame buffon for anything is ridiculous..if carlos edwards had get headbutt down and shaka run to point it out to the ref it wouldnt even be an argument here ent??

your attempt to word this differently does not make a difference..

BOTH buffon and ronaldo were attempting to influence the referee into taking action and making a decision.

How does Ronaldo know that the ref saw the stamp on de man balls??
How does Buffon know that the lines didn't see the headbutt??

They both acted instinctively to protect their teammates. Remember.. What we are debating here is not the severity of the respective incidents, but the reaction of the victims' teammates.

If shaka had done it I would not have a problem because I don't have a problem with what Buffon or Ronaldo did either.

I get your point :beermug: However it seemed Buffon was asking the ref to consult his linesmen and 4th official rather than remonstrate for a card -- I may be wrong but that's what was said on the live coverage -- that Buffon was pointing in the direction of the linesmen for the ref to go ask them
Title: Re: AYE ALLYUH ENGLISHMAN...HOW IS WHAT BUFFON DID TODAY...
Post by: jub02 on July 10, 2006, 09:31:55 AM
ricky dis is de stupidest thread you have ever started

zidane butt d man intentionally.... 

and yes d linesman didnt see it or the ref...  buffon literally begged de man    finnaly de peerpressured linesman agreed with him...  and buffon thanked him and brap red card..

now it was a red card  but buffon helped it

rooney own was not a red card but ronaldo demanded it

accept the fact england lost and stop trying to blame ronaldo..de ref gave the card and rooney deserved the card..end of story.

it aint about that we jus comparing coz it the same ref.
anyway u cant compare buffon and ronaldo bcuz buffon aint good mates with zidane is he
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