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Sports => Football => Topic started by: TrinInfinite on July 16, 2006, 03:00:55 PM
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Who do you think will start in this years Gold Cup for Trinidad and Tobago?
I think in all honesty it will be these players who make the 23 for the team in the Gold Cup....
keepers: jan michael williams, kelvin jack
defenders: carlos edwards, sancho, grey, atiba charles, avery john, tallman, makan hislop
midfielders: spann, samuel, theobald, whitley, birchall, jagdeosingh, touissant, Hardest ;D
strikers: glenn, scotland, jones, johnson, noray, baptiste, wolfe
vibes it up
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Have we already qualified or we hadda go thru Digicel Cup first?
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Have we already qualified or we hadda go thru Digicel Cup first?
i think we received a by, i could b wrong, but i know based on the digicel it will determine who is automatically goin thru, so maybe it is dependent on the digicel ??? tallman or flex should know de answer :beermug:
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Jack
Gray Sancho Tallest John
Edwards Birchall Whitley Samuel
Yorke
Glenn
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Jack
Gray Sancho Tallest John
Edwards Birchall Whitley Samuel
Yorke
Glenn
nice line-up but yorke will not play, i doubt it, sub jones in, and noray, wolfe and scotland off de bench :beermug:
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Stern will be there...like it or not
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Have we already qualified or we hadda go thru Digicel Cup first?
i think we received a by, i could b wrong, but i know based on the digicel it will determine who is automatically goin thru, so maybe it is dependent on the digicel ??? tallman or flex should know de answer :beermug:
yuh have to qualify fuh the gold cup aint no by into the gold cup
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Stern will be there...like it or not
NO F**KING WAY...............
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--------------------------------------Jan Michael Williams------------------------------------------------
(Jack, Ince)
-----Cyd Grey-------------------Tallest--------Atiba Charles-----------Spann---------
(Glenton Wolf) (Nigel Henry) (Thomas) (Avery John)
--Carlos Edwards----------Dwight Yorke-------------------Aurtis Whitely---------------Silvio Spann
(Collin Samuels) (Fitzpatrick)
-------------------------------------Kenwyne Jones--------Stern John---------------------------
(Anthony Wolf, Jason Scotland Gary Glasgow) (Cornell Glen, Josh Johnson)
(Scott Sealy?)
really... cyah be too sure nuh is too far away to put forward a serious team judgement right now... lots of things can happen.
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--------------------------------------Jan Michael Williams------------------------------------------------
(Jack, Ince)
-----Cyd Grey-------------------Tallest--------Atiba Charles-----------Spann---------
(Glenton Wolf) (Nigel Henry) (Thomas) (Avery John)
--Carlos Edwards----------Dwight Yorke-------------------Aurtis Whitely---------------Silvio Spann
(Collin Samuels) (Fitzpatrick)
-------------------------------------Kenwyne Jones--------Stern John---------------------------
(Anthony Wolf, Jason Scotland Gary Glasgow) (Cornell Glen, Josh Johnson)
(Scott Sealy?)
really... cyah be too sure nuh is too far away to put forward a serious team judgement right now... lots of things can happen.
Glasglow ??? he is almost 30 why not jagdeosingh
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I believe we qualify. Dog will be 30 so I do not know why everybody right him off. Yes he has been injury but I eh see why he eh go get better
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I believe we qualify. Dog will be 30 so I do not know why everybody right him off. Yes he has been injury but I eh see why he eh go get better
no body eh right him off but hey you got to look at other options
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Squad for the 2000 Gold Cup Champs:
Hirschfeld
Stalteri - McKenna - Serioux - Simpson
Bernier - Hutchinson - DeGuzman
DeRosario - Occean - Hume
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Squad for the 2000 Gold Cup Champs:
Hirschfeld
Stalteri - McKenna - Serioux - Simpson
Bernier - Hutchinson - DeGuzman
DeRosario - Occean - Hume
I see you all give up hope on jonathan deguzman
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Jonathon DeGuzman will make his decision when he is ready.
We have more depth than ever before, so I'm not too worried about it
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What about Shakes and Sealy I think they should be in that squad
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Stern will be there...like it or not
Arrow, in your opinion, what will the idea behind playing Stern for the GC next year be? To past on his experience to other upcoming strikers? As I doubt he will be in the running for WC 2010 qualifications, though one never knows....
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What about Shakes and Sealy I think they should be in that squad
the best players performing will make the squad
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Arrow, in your opinion, what will the idea behind playing Stern for the GC next year be? To past on his experience to other upcoming strikers? As I doubt he will be in the running for WC 2010 qualifications, though one never knows....
Stern is our number 1 option until someone step up and take that away from him.
They will get their chance but Stern not going and get replace just so.
UK players would be on break but might miss some pre-season.
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For all who tink Stern John eh playing for GG or 2010 all yuh waste ah tink !!!
Wham all yuh feel is just so de batton passing ,man hah tuh earn dah spot, dey hah to be able to match de performance to and score real real goals.When Stern come on de scene he eh just collect de batton he place he stamp on it like no odda striker TnT ever see,say wah yuh want #14 know how tuh put de ball in de back ah de net and daiz not no argument look at de proof ....all time leading goal scorer and counting,wham he doh score enough ? you else does score enough tuh satisfy de #14 haters ,who is all yuh big time scorer for TnT eh ?
Palos I eh want tuh hear yuh eh ;D
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Stern will be there...like it or not
Arrow, in your opinion, what will the idea behind playing Stern for the GC next year be? To past on his experience to other upcoming strikers? As I doubt he will be in the running for WC 2010 qualifications, though one never knows....
Well Wim was a member of Beenie's coaching staff that stuck with Stern throughout the qualifiers, warm-ups and world cup matches. They had seen all of our strikers playing, training etc. and believed that Stern was our number 1 striker. Unless Wim has a different opinion of him but was overruled by Beenie then I don't expect Stern to get drop jus so one year later. Even though I might want him to.
Stern is 29 now so I expect that he will at least be in the running for the 2010 qualifiers if not starting every match. If he can continue the good form he had for Coventry at the end of last season then I would expect him to get called to the national team for the major international friendlies and tournaments.
Besides Whitely is only 7 months younger than Stern, do you think he shouldn't play in the Gold Cup?
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I really doubt birchall will be available
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Stern will be there...like it or not
Arrow, in your opinion, what will the idea behind playing Stern for the GC next year be? To past on his experience to other upcoming strikers? As I doubt he will be in the running for WC 2010 qualifications, though one never knows....
Well Wim was a member of Beenie's coaching staff that stuck with Stern throughout the qualifiers, warm-ups and world cup matches. They had seen all of our strikers playing, training etc. and believed that Stern was our number 1 striker. Unless Wim has a different opinion of him but was overruled by Beenie then I don't expect Stern to get drop jus so one year later. Even though I might want him to.
Stern is 29 now so I expect that he will at least be in the running for the 2010 qualifiers if not starting every match. If he can continue the good form he had for Coventry at the end of last season then I would expect him to get called to the national team for the major international friendlies and tournaments.
Besides Whitely is only 7 months younger than Stern, do you think he shouldn't play in the Gold Cup?
Points taken. Stern has been effective for TT up to and leading into the WC. Just wonder how much of a future he has in TT football. Given the type of striker he is and the current nature of our midfield, I just wonder how much success he would achieve in the future and whether or not we (TT football) would be better served by grooming the up and coming strikers (Wolfe, Glenn, etc). That of course is my personal feeling, I hear your pts. loud and clear and suspect that you are right with respect to what may transpire next year as the GC comes up, time will of course ans these qus....
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Stern will be there...like it or not
Arrow, in your opinion, what will the idea behind playing Stern for the GC next year be? To past on his experience to other upcoming strikers? As I doubt he will be in the running for WC 2010 qualifications, though one never knows....
Well Wim was a member of Beenie's coaching staff that stuck with Stern throughout the qualifiers, warm-ups and world cup matches. They had seen all of our strikers playing, training etc. and believed that Stern was our number 1 striker. Unless Wim has a different opinion of him but was overruled by Beenie then I don't expect Stern to get drop jus so one year later. Even though I might want him to.
Stern is 29 now so I expect that he will at least be in the running for the 2010 qualifiers if not starting every match. If he can continue the good form he had for Coventry at the end of last season then I would expect him to get called to the national team for the major international friendlies and tournaments.
Besides Whitely is only 7 months younger than Stern, do you think he shouldn't play in the Gold Cup?
Points taken. Stern has been effective for TT up to and leading into the WC. Just wonder how much of a future he has in TT football. Given the type of striker he is and the current nature of our midfield, I just wonder how much success he would achieve in the future and whether or not we (TT football) would be better served by grooming the up and coming strikers (Wolfe, Glenn, etc). That of course is my personal feeling, I hear your pts. loud and clear and suspect that you are right with respect to what may transpire next year as the GC comes up, time will of course ans these qus....
Stern's proven himself. High time to experiment with another striking style. I would like to see a Glen / Jones partnership or a Glen / Wolfe partnership. Collin Samuel on de left wing, or Whitley. Edwards on the right but since he may not be able to attend cuz he gettin a big contract , try Shakes again. I saw Scotty play as a right wing forward a couple times for Dundee utd, he look good. He could be what Collin Samuel is for us on de left. Give Tallest a break, check out Noreiga. Charles or Sancho for Dog.
Theobald as our creative midfielder does make men hold their breath but I say he have potential. Hope he gets games with Falkirk this season - after all, Latas have him under his wing. Still wondering if Birchall better suited to attacking/creative midfield or defensive mid.
Give j.m williams a try and call back Tony Warner. Ince and Jack thankfully find new clubs, dey doh want to jeopardize that with int'l duty too soon.
But at de end of the day, whoever performing best should get the job.
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if stern scoring for the natl team, take him, otherwise he is a waste of our time, no latas tuh feed him de ball, so who he planning tuh score 2 and 3 goals ah game, ah doubt it, people like dey didnt watch de world cup or wha, glenn, wolfe, scotland, jones, de youth will dictate de pace :beermug:
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if stern scoring for the natl team, take him, otherwise he is a waste of our time, no latas tuh feed him de ball, so who he planning tuh score 2 and 3 goals ah game, ah doubt it, people like dey didnt watch de world cup or wha, glenn, wolfe, scotland, jones, de youth will dictate de pace :beermug:
for all de goals dat stern score fuh T&T..how many did Latas feed him jes curious.
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if stern scoring for the natl team, take him, otherwise he is a waste of our time, no latas tuh feed him de ball, so who he planning tuh score 2 and 3 goals ah game, ah doubt it, people like dey didnt watch de world cup or wha, glenn, wolfe, scotland, jones, de youth will dictate de pace :beermug:
dat is what I saying, but I realize the fact that Stern will have a place on de team for at least de next couple years. It is a matter of tactics and strategy to see now how best he can be used, since he may not be starting anymore esp with the development of the hungrier younger players who will readier make their chances. :beermug:
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Who replacing Dog ?
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no1 hadda replace dog
he go be dey
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What about Shakes and Sealy I think they should be in that squad
I agree I think they will be vital. They have a great future ahead of them.
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I somehow doubt Birchall will be there. Given how much international commitments messed up his season, he will want to dig in and prove himself at home. Unless he goes to a club that won't mind the international commitments.
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no1 hadda replace dog
he go be dey
wishfull thinking
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I somehow doubt Birchall will be there. Given how much international commitments messed up his season, he will want to dig in and prove himself at home. Unless he goes to a club that won't mind the international commitments.
His club have to release him if the federation ask for him
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Gold Cup will be during the summer when the UK leagues on break.
The most I think they would miss is maybe pre-season or time to rest for injuries.
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STERN wearing the captain's armband.
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STERN wearing the captain's armband.
Ah like how yuh thinking.
Buh wha dah mean , he go play midfield like Yorke ?
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STERN wearing the captain's armband.
Ah like how yuh thinking.
Buh wha dah mean , he go play midfield like Yorke ?
That funny... really funny.
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STERN wearing the captain's armband.
Ah like how yuh thinking.
Buh wha dah mean , he go play midfield like Yorke ?
That funny... really funny.
what so funny bout dat ?
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STERN wearing the captain's armband.
Ah like how yuh thinking.
Buh wha dah mean , he go play midfield like Yorke ?
That funny... really funny.
what so funny bout dat ?
Doh study it.. My sense of humour lil different.! :beermug:
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Well i cyar see no big settah replacement.
Sancho in fuh Dog
Spann in fuh Yorke
Other than that i see no big settah changes.
What ah will love tuh see is the Toussaint/Davis combination of W Connection get ah run.
Wolfe starting tuh play like he deserve tuh start so ah guess Stern position in limbo.
Stern fuh Captain. ... Sorry eh Small Mags but ah have tuh do like OG and laugh at this notion
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Stern's proven himself. High time to experiment with another striking style. I would like to see a Glen / Jones partnership or a Glen / Wolfe partnership. Collin Samuel on de left wing, or Whitley. Edwards on the right but since he may not be able to attend cuz he gettin a big contract , try Shakes again. I saw Scotty play as a right wing forward a couple times for Dundee utd, he look good. He could be what Collin Samuel is for us on de left. Give Tallest a break, check out Noreiga. Charles or Sancho for Dog.
Theobald as our creative midfielder does make men hold their breath but I say he have potential. Hope he gets games with Falkirk this season - after all, Latas have him under his wing. Still wondering if Birchall better suited to attacking/creative midfield or defensive mid.
Give j.m williams a try and call back Tony Warner. Ince and Jack thankfully find new clubs, dey doh want to jeopardize that with int'l duty too soon.
But at de end of the day, whoever performing best should get the job.
good post :applause:
time to diversify the attack so that when stern purge, there's another option.
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STERN wearing the captain's armband.
Ah like how yuh thinking.
Buh wha dah mean , he go play midfield like Yorke ?
That funny... really funny.
what so funny bout dat ?
Yuh could jump on meh all yuh want... but usually a captain is someone who carries the team work.
Stern is an effective opurtunist striker... he is not by any stretch of the imagination a work horse... hence... someone saying that he is going to wear the captain's armband is funny.
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Who replacing Dog ?
Sancho...easily ;)
did you even miss Dog this past WC? Sancho stepped in and did a remarkable job.
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Ah cud come up with ah team, and many different players in their respective positions. However, ah must admit, I'm very concern about who is going to take dat creative midfielder position, now dat Latapy is gone. There have been a few names out there, but I'm not impressed at all. Just look at the difference, when Latapy returned tuh de team, fuh de world cup qualifiers, yuh saw a different Stern John and team. Dat is de only area, I'm very concerned wid, all de other positions, ah think we safe.
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Ah cud come up with ah team, and many different players in their respective positions. However, ah must admit, I'm very concern about who is going to take dat creative midfielder position, now dat Latapy is gone. There have been a few names out there, but I'm not impressed at all. Just look at the difference, when Latapy returned tuh de team, fuh de world cup qualifiers, yuh saw a different Stern John and team. Dat is de only area, I'm very concerned wid, all de other positions, ah think we safe.
To play a lil devil's advocate.....de 2 games dat finally take we to de world cup i.e. de Bahrain games...Latas played terrible in de first one, and IN DE ONE WE ABSOLUTELY HAD TO MUS WIN....he eh play eedah until dong in de dregs when de goal did already score.
My personal opinion....we have to stop tryin to look fuh dis "creative midfielder" type. Italy didn't have a classic "creative midfielder", Germany didn't have one (needah Pirlo nor Ballack is wha yuh would call a classic creative midfielder), Holland didn't have one, Portugal didn't have one....yuh get meh driff.
Latas was a once in a lifetime player and he time come and gone. Instead a lookin fuh de nex Latas...my opinion is we should try and concentrate on getting effective midfielders who could do de hard work required as well as have SOME creativity.
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Latas was a once in a lifetime player and he time come and gone. Instead a lookin fuh de nex Latas...my opinion is we should try and concentrate on getting effective midfielders who could do de hard work required as well as have SOME creativity.
Sound like a next man calling for Hardest
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Latas was a once in a lifetime player and he time come and gone. Instead a lookin fuh de nex Latas...my opinion is we should try and concentrate on getting effective midfielders who could do de hard work required as well as have SOME creativity.
Sound like a next man calling for Hardest
Since when Hardest does do hard work?
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STERN wearing the captain's armband.
Ah like how yuh thinking.
Buh wha dah mean , he go play midfield like Yorke ?
That funny... really funny.
what so funny bout dat ?
Yuh could jump on meh all yuh want... but usually a captain is someone who carries the team work.
Stern is an effective opurtunist striker... he is not by any stretch of the imagination a work horse... hence... someone saying that he is going to wear the captain's armband is funny.
I eh know partner. A captain is someone who can lead the team on and off the field. Someone who all the players respect. It is has nothing to do with being a work horse...That is why many goalies and even sweepers are captains, and they are not carrying the workload of the team.....creative geniuses like Zidane and Maradona, Platini, Socrates, Cruyff, Figo...legendary skippers not really known for hard graft...but they are all leaders. Forwards are hardly ever captains for 2 reasons...
1) they need to be absolutely selfish and focused on scoring goals. stereotypically the least teamwork-oriented of all the positions..many believe that the added pressure of captaincy will blunt the ability to buss the net...maybe more superstition than fact
2) communication with the rest of players is a little difficult from the front, and it is more difficult to read how the opposing team is developing play.....
but more and more strikers are leading teams from the front...
By your reasoning players like Gattuso, Makalele, Frings and co. should be skippers. Not that they wouldn't be good ones...anyhow, maybe I just misinterpreting what yuh mean by 'work horse'
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Who do you think will start in this years Gold Cup for Trinidad and Tobago?
I think in all honesty it will be these players who make the 23 for the team in the Gold Cup....
keepers: jan michael williams, kelvin jack
defenders: carlos edwards, sancho, grey, atiba charles, avery john, tallman, makan hislop
midfielders: spann, samuel, theobald, whitley, birchall, jagdeosingh, touissant, Hardest ;D
strikers: glenn, scotland, jones, johnson, noray, baptiste, wolfe
vibes it up
Trinidad will be lining up an all local squad come gold cup trus mi...
Birchal..yorke..Jack..Ince ..lawrence will not be available trus mi.. Big question though why is williams still a top Keeper? is it because he is young?.. De man is not international caliber.. I really cya see him representing TNT National squad..
I think TNT have a decent homgrown squad dat can compete in the gold cup though and no need to bring in those guys you mention
.. warmonga..
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Ah cud come up with ah team, and many different players in their respective positions. However, ah must admit, I'm very concern about who is going to take dat creative midfielder position, now dat Latapy is gone. There have been a few names out there, but I'm not impressed at all. Just look at the difference, when Latapy returned tuh de team, fuh de world cup qualifiers, yuh saw a different Stern John and team. Dat is de only area, I'm very concerned wid, all de other positions, ah think we safe.
To play a lil devil's advocate.....de 2 games dat finally take we to de world cup i.e. de Bahrain games...Latas played terrible in de first one, and IN DE ONE WE ABSOLUTELY HAD TO MUS WIN....he eh play eedah until dong in de dregs when de goal did already score.
My personal opinion....we have to stop tryin to look fuh dis "creative midfielder" type. Italy didn't have a classic "creative midfielder", Germany didn't have one (needah Pirlo nor Ballack is wha yuh would call a classic creative midfielder), Holland didn't have one, Portugal didn't have one....yuh get meh driff.
Latas was a once in a lifetime player and he time come and gone. Instead a lookin fuh de nex Latas...my opinion is we should try and concentrate on getting effective midfielders who could do de hard work required as well as have SOME creativity.
Palos yuh know what, ah agree wid you fully on dat comment. De only answer without dat type of player, ah guess is to play as ah total team, where by attacking as ah team and defending as ah team. Which ah think Leo have already put in place.
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Palos yuh know what, ah agree wid you fully on dat comment. De only answer without dat type of player, ah guess is to play as ah total team, where by attacking as ah team and defending as ah team. Which ah think Leo have already put in place.
Ah kinda agree wit yuh statement. Except....it is a fact that prior to Latas arrival on de team...we had little offensive punch. We had little offensive punch without him in the World Cup too. I think Don Leo did lay a certain foundation in that he built from the back come forward. Offensive creativity sacrificed to some extent for discipline and organization. Necessary in my opinion given the circumstances.
I don't believe we're quite at the point where we "attack as a team". Forced to play without Carlos Edwards as an attacking force in the world cup, we lost what little thrust we had in the first place. Remember Beenie sayin that Stern, Yorke and Carlos were his offensive "powers" in the team. Playing Yorke as a holding midfielder meant we wouldn't be ding much "attacking as a team" in the world cup. But that could change with a fit again Spann and some youngesters coming through the ranks.
It would be really interesting for me to see Kenwyne Jones in the "Yorke World Cup" role. I'm still not convinced he is a striker but more a natural "Viera type". But I eh no coach.
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It would be really interesting for me to see Kenwyne Jones in the "Yorke World Cup" role. I'm still not convinced he is a striker but more a natural "Viera type". But I eh no coach.
Interesting in truth. In all de positions I consider Kenwyne to play in, I never considered that one. Someone a while back had propose him to play in defense - either as a central defender or a left back - based on the fact that Kenwyne has played in defense before.
Think of Lucio for Brazil, a player who has qualities similar to Kenwyne's - IF he played defense. Strong, lean and muscular, covers a lot of ground in a single pace. Loves to take on players and get forward. Wins aerial balls and also a good header of the ball. Good stamina and covers a lot of ground to get back in position after getting involved up front. Can't do that with Sancho or Dog.
I eh no coach either, but it is a position Kenwyne has played before and it should be considered again at least, not written off, esp since I also agree that he's not yet established as a striker.
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It would be really interesting for me to see Kenwyne Jones in the "Yorke World Cup" role. I'm still not convinced he is a striker but more a natural "Viera type". But I eh no coach.
Interesting in truth. In all de positions I consider Kenwyne to play in, I never considered that one. Someone a while back had propose him to play in defense - either as a central defender or a left back - based on the fact that Kenwyne has played in defense before.
Think of Lucio for Brazil, a player who has qualities similar to Kenwyne's - IF he played defense. Strong, lean and muscular, covers a lot of ground in a single pace. Loves to take on players and get forward. Wins aerial balls and also a good header of the ball. Good stamina and covers a lot of ground to get back in position after getting involved up front. Can't do that with Sancho or Dog.
I eh no coach either, but it is a position Kenwyne has played before and it should be considered again at least, not written off, esp since I also agree that he's not yet established as a striker.
i was de one who suggested he play defender, he should play central defender and take over for lawrence bc of his height and jumping ability, he needs more dribbling skills and passing skills and he will be a star defender, put carlos at right back, sancho and jones, then gray or atiba, hopefully samuel if we can get him on the left bc we need a natural left footer, with makan coming off the bench
in the mid, spann, whitley, birchall, jagdeo, samuel
upfront, well for me its either glenn, scotland, wolfe, johnson or noray
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i was de one who suggested he play defender, he should play central defender and take over for lawrence bc of his height and jumping ability, he needs more dribbling skills and passing skills and he will be a star defender, put carlos at right back, sancho and jones, then gray or atiba, hopefully samuel if we can get him on the left bc we need a natural left footer, with makan coming off the bench
in the mid, spann, whitley, birchall, jagdeo, samuel
upfront, well for me its either glenn, scotland, wolfe, johnson or noray
Ah tink SW.net message board history get create tonight wee.
Breds...u ok?
U call a T&T team and no mention a Hardest? ;D ;D ;D
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Palos like you eh read de man first post to start de thread? :rotfl: :rotfl: