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Title: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Feliziano on July 26, 2006, 09:13:26 PM
alright people..season going to start soon.
I did see someone start a La Liga thread therefore let we see if we could keep all English football discussion under one thread so Tallman, Flex and dem other boy will have an easier time moderating.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: SUPA on July 26, 2006, 09:32:09 PM
Ah like de teams de boss (Yorkie) and Edwards going 2. Talk done.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on July 26, 2006, 10:46:31 PM
Dis EPL season go have little drama.  Arsenal go reduce it to a one horse race wit de ress fightin fuh de crumbs. 

Wit dat....is really only individuals go be gettin my interest.

Who Carlos Edwards end up playin wit

Obi Mikel wit Chelsea and how he do...if he get playin time

Theo Walcott and how much run he go get and wha kinda impact he go have.

How Ronaldo respond to de English fans and media

Oddah dan dat....ho hum.

Predictions....

EPL winners - Arsenal

Player of the Year - Thierry Henry

Young player of the year - Obi Mikel or Theo Walcott (dependin of course on how much run dem get)

Leading goalscorer - Craig Bellamy / Thierry Henry - tie



Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Tongue on July 26, 2006, 11:01:57 PM
good ting is only predicting yuh doing eh!...steupes
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on July 26, 2006, 11:08:24 PM
good ting is only predicting yuh doing eh!...steupes

Have to do it now.  Ah go be beezee nex 3 weeks... ;)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on July 26, 2006, 11:54:17 PM

Bellamy and Crouch go make a good attack.



season eh good start and you done talking shit already
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on July 27, 2006, 02:32:18 AM
I Can't see anyone other than Chelsea winning it, if they don't then possibly Arsenal. Top four in my opinion will be the same as this year.

The three teams that came up are the most likely to go down again, although watch out for an Aston Villa implosion, they are a club in crisis at the moment.

Top Scorer, Thierry Henry or Schevenko.

FA cup Winners the mighty PORTSMOUTH ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: dinho on July 27, 2006, 02:39:49 AM
Dis EPL season go have little drama.  Arsenal go reduce it to a one horse race wit de ress fightin fuh de crumbs. 

Wit dat....is really only individuals go be gettin my interest.

Who Carlos Edwards end up playin wit

Obi Mikel wit Chelsea and how he do...if he get playin time

Theo Walcott and how much run he go get and wha kinda impact he go have.

How Ronaldo respond to de English fans and media

Oddah dan dat....ho hum.

Predictions....

EPL winners - Arsenal

Player of the Year - Thierry Henry

Young player of the year - Obi Mikel or Theo Walcott (dependin of course on how much run dem get)

Leading goalscorer - Craig Bellamy / Thierry Henry - tie





Carlos going Watford...

Limited sweat for mikel, he go get some carling cup and fa cup sweat.. i feel lampard could see some bench this year too... essien and makelele rotating on the defensive mid position..

No sweat for theo walcott.. maybe a lil carling cup/fa cup here and there... english talent does rot at arsenal under wenger... pennant, jeffers, hoyte, bentley and the list goes on

Ronaldo go handle it fergie go protect him.. he handled it well in the world cup so he'll let his performances do the talking

Predictions....

Winners: Will come down to last 2 wks of season with Chelsea and Liverpool fighting for it...
Champs League: Arsenal and Spurs if they dont lose Carrick.. but arsenal need central defenders, senderos still shaky...

Leading Goalscorer: Henry or Sheva

Young player: Rooney if eligible, Van Persie
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 02:43:23 AM
I Can't see anyone other than Chelsea winning it, if they don't then possibly Arsenal. Top four in my opinion will be the same as this year.

The three teams that came up are the most likely to go down again, although watch out for an Aston Villa implosion, they are a club in crisis at the moment.

Top Scorer, Thierry Henry or Schevenko.

FA cup Winners the mighty PORTSMOUTH ;D
That must be the F**k All (FA) Cup Right? not the one Liverpool won last year :rotfl: just kidding.

Arsenal need some defenders(at least 2 centre backs) before they can compete for the top spot and one central midfield (yaya please ;D)

Seriously Cygan must be Wenger's Nephew or son from a one-night stand from back in they day because I don't why he has kept that man at the club.  :-[
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: redtrinigirl on July 27, 2006, 04:16:08 AM
Ok, in typical girl fashion, I talking bout clothes. Allyuh get any new kits yet?

What yuh think of the new Arsenal kit? Somehow it has a slightly 80's feel to it, don't yuh think? Still buying it though. Nike Town here I come.

And the Man U tops looking odd, not feeling like a Man U shirt. Dunno why.

Anyways, carry on. ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on July 27, 2006, 04:54:23 AM

Bellamy and Crouch go make a good attack.



season eh good start and you done talking shit already

well tell me which of the top 6 teams going to actually play with 2 out and out strikers and forwards?
Arsenal have only one forward who guranteed of starting; Man U going to play Rooney alone and maybe bring Saha on as sub; and Spurs will be picking their 2 starters out of Berbatov, Keane and Defoe, they might even play with all 3 with Keane deeper.
So tell me where i talking shit bout Bellamy and Crouch isnt a good attack..sorry but i ent consider a one man show an 'attack'.
maybe i shoulda say they would make an effective combination.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 05:06:41 AM
I feelin Arsenal..
But gotta be chelsea init..liverpool cud give em a good run for a bit
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: JDB on July 27, 2006, 05:12:06 AM
Man U going to play Rooney alone and maybe bring Saha on as sub;

How you making that prediction? You ever see United line up with Rooney alone up front?

As for the season, Palos is kinda right it is likely to be ho hum unless Chelsea implodes or somebody other than Umited steps up to challenge them. If they start off with ten straight wins or soemthig so and open a 8 or 9 point gap the league will be over.

It would be nice to see somebody give them a run and United could well do it but the  midfield still needs strengthening. Arsenal, Liverpool and United all in the same position right now, waiting for Chelsea to collapse before they could take advantage.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 05:16:34 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: dinho on July 27, 2006, 05:53:12 AM

Bellamy and Crouch go make a good attack.



season eh good start and you done talking shit already

well tell me which of the top 6 teams going to actually play with 2 out and out strikers and forwards?
Arsenal have only one forward who guranteed of starting; Man U going to play Rooney alone and maybe bring Saha on as sub; and Spurs will be picking their 2 starters out of Berbatov, Keane and Defoe, they might even play with all 3 with Keane deeper.
So tell me where i talking shit bout Bellamy and Crouch isnt a good attack..sorry but i ent consider a one man show an 'attack'.
maybe i shoulda say they would make an effective combination.

Chelsea going to 4-4-2 this year, sheva and drogba on top, salt for de wingers this year
Arsenal playing 4-4-2, henry and adebayor/van persie, 4-5-1 in champs league
Man utd playing 4-4-2 as always, rooney and saha/ruud??
Liverpool playing 4-4-2 for easy games, bellamy and crouch (i pray they buy another forward), and 4-5-1 for hard games with bellamy on de wing where cisse used to fill in...
Tottenham playing 4-4-2, Jol not brave enough to go 4-3-3 in de league so it go be Berbatov/Keane and more salt for Defoe on de bench
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on July 27, 2006, 05:57:07 AM
Ok, in typical girl fashion, I talking bout clothes. Allyuh get any new kits yet?

What yuh think of the new Arsenal kit? Somehow it has a slightly 80's feel to it, don't yuh think? Still buying it though. Nike Town here I come.

And the Man U tops looking odd, not feeling like a Man U shirt. Dunno why.

Anyways, carry on. ;D

take a look at Spurs new third kit

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com

not too sure about that ???
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 06:01:23 AM
Ok, in typical girl fashion, I talking bout clothes. Allyuh get any new kits yet?

What yuh think of the new Arsenal kit? Somehow it has a slightly 80's feel to it, don't yuh think? Still buying it though. Nike Town here I come.

And the Man U tops looking odd, not feeling like a Man U shirt. Dunno why.

Anyways, carry on. ;D

take a look at Spurs new third kit

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com

not too sure about that ???
It looks very plain but ok.... not a traditional tottenham kit

well I brought my new arsenal shirt last week  ;D

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h164/Garratnut/DSC00004.jpg)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 27, 2006, 06:23:59 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 06:28:23 AM
its alright i suppose.
i like the newcastle european strip :
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41918000/jpg/_41918972_ameobi203x152.jpg
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 06:29:03 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 06:32:29 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 06:33:54 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
lol

  :loser:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 06:37:28 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
lol

I am a loser
  :loser:

I know you are Jub02

Man U Fans! (Small Magician and others)

Do your really care if Van Nistelrooy leaves and if he leaves do you think you need a replacement?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 06:41:37 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
lol

I, Carib-briton(aka Fatass) am a loser
  :loser:

I know you are Jub02

Man U Fans! (Small Magician and others)

Do your really care if Van Nistelrooy leaves and if he leaves do you think you need a replacement?


Man U..my ass :rotfl:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: grskywalker on July 27, 2006, 06:45:16 AM
ALL yuh forgetting men like Dafoe, Davids and Lennon for Tottenham. Chelsea have a ridiculous line up of forwards boy pressure for everybody DROGBA AND SHEVCHENKO
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on July 27, 2006, 06:45:55 AM
Ok, in typical girl fashion, I talking bout clothes. Allyuh get any new kits yet?

What yuh think of the new Arsenal kit? Somehow it has a slightly 80's feel to it, don't yuh think? Still buying it though. Nike Town here I come.

And the Man U tops looking odd, not feeling like a Man U shirt. Dunno why.

Anyways, carry on. ;D

take a look at Spurs new third kit

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com

not too sure about that ???
It looks very plain but ok.... not a traditional tottenham kit

well I brought my new arsenal shirt last week  ;D

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h164/Garratnut/DSC00004.jpg)

will we be seeing that shirt at Fratton Park this season? Rain permitting of course ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 06:53:27 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
lol

I, Carib-briton(aka Fatass) am a loser
  :loser:

I know you are Jub02

Man U Fans! (Small Magician and others)

Do your really care if Van Nistelrooy leaves and if he leaves do you think you need a replacement?


Man U..my ass :rotfl:

Your an Idiot for real this time because you can't take a joke(in the other thread) and you do realise you typed the part where I'm ''meant'' speaking in your post section with is carib-brition loser business
You try but you just fail.
I'm done wid you my yute.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 06:56:49 AM


will we be seeing that shirt at Fratton Park this season? Rain permitting of course ;D

Maybe! Arsenal tickets have gone up this year so it maybe be worth it making more away trips to see the country a bit more!

Don't you just love the away pompey treat the away fans, uncovered terracing  ;D Rain or shine if I have the money I'll probably go. As long as the pompey mad men dont attack me  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on July 27, 2006, 07:02:11 AM


will we be seeing that shirt at Fratton Park this season? Rain permitting of course ;D

Maybe! Arsenal tickets have gone up this year so it maybe be worth it making more away trips to see the country a bit more!

Don't you just love the away pompey treat the away fans, uncovered terracing  ;D Rain or shine if I have the money I'll probably go. As long as the pompey mad men dont attack me  ;D

a lot of the home fans are in the Milton end as well, although hopefully the following season we will have the new ground and you Arsenal fans will be able to get all the prawn sandwiches need ;)

Always a good atmosphere when Arsenal are in town, Since Henry praised our fans there is always a big "We Love Thierry" feel to the game.

Just as well, cos we f**king hate Pires  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 27, 2006, 07:04:28 AM
Carib-Brighton...... um i am probably the biggest van nistelrooy fan..and it is hurting me inside that he is leaving..but i wish him the best and he will always be a united legend

and i was always thinking toress toress toress  but obviously he likes athletico and is staying put...  now we have rooney, saha, alan smith, solksjaer, and rossi...   they all sound like an excellent strike force... but i dont think that is a good enough strike force to win the league and challenge for CL....

but we will see...    looks like we are getting to Center mids    and thats what we need right now... Carrick and Javier Mascherano....   both play DM for their clubs but carrick could be used as a pure CM or AM... Mascherano... i think is very effitent  gets the job done but in a english style hard hitting way....  i think if man utd gets him  that will be a great buy...  carrick also....

its time to spend some of glazers money...

i want three players  Carrick..Mascherano... and i always wanted owen bt he is injured so i guess i would like to bring... defoe...  maybe man u could give spurs 25 mil pounds for both players  15 for carrick 10 for defoe

we will have to wait and see
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 07:05:53 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
lol

I, Carib-briton(aka Fatass) am a loser
  :loser:

I know you are Jub02

Man U Fans! (Small Magician and others)

Do your really care if Van Nistelrooy leaves and if he leaves do you think you need a replacement?


Man U..my ass :rotfl:

Your an Idiot for real this time because you can't take a joke(in the other thread) and you do realise you typed the part where I'm ''meant'' speaking in your post section with is carib-brition loser business
You try but you just fail.
I'm done wid you my yute.

I know.....but i didnt no this was serious buisness. God man wen u got vex u serch thru every little thing and comment about it so u can win some sort of notorious battle..it a message board!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 07:10:01 AM
Carib-Brighton...... um i am probably the biggest van nistelrooy fan..and it is hurting me inside that he is leaving..but i wish him the best and he will always be a united legend

and i was always thinking toress toress toress  but obviously he likes athletico and is staying put...  now we have rooney, saha, alan smith, solksjaer, and rossi...   they all sound like an excellent strike force... but i dont think that is a good enough strike force to win the league and challenge for CL....

but we will see...    looks like we are getting to Center mids    and thats what we need right now... Carrick and Javier Mascherano....   both play DM for their clubs but carrick could be used as a pure CM or AM... Mascherano... i think is very effitent  gets the job done but in a english style hard hitting way....  i think if man utd gets him  that will be a great buy...  carrick also....

its time to spend some of glazes money...

i want three players  Carrick..Mascherano... and i always wanted owen bt he is injured so i guess i would like to bring... defoe...  maybe man u could give spurs 25 mil pounds for both players  15 for carrick 10 for defoe

we will have to wait and see

See I what you would like that red devils and Big up Carib-Brighton I've always loved that poster. ;)

Someone needs to get Anelka I would say Man U but I dont see that happening, Arsenal might be sorting out their Defensive problem soon hopefully
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 07:11:31 AM


I know.....but i didnt no this was serious buisness. God man wen u got vex u serch thru every little thing and comment about it so u can win some sort of notorious battle..it a message board!
Jub02 be quiet now on this topic please, you were getting upset about because you were complaing in the other and you tell me his message board crap. As I've said before you real naive. Done It.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 27, 2006, 07:25:24 AM

well tell me which of the top 6 teams going to actually play with 2 out and out strikers and forwards?
Arsenal have only one forward who guranteed of starting; Man U going to play Rooney alone and maybe bring Saha on as sub; and Spurs will be picking their 2 starters out of Berbatov, Keane and Defoe, they might even play with all 3 with Keane deeper.
So tell me where i talking shit bout Bellamy and Crouch isnt a good attack..sorry but i ent consider a one man show an 'attack'.
maybe i shoulda say they would make an effective combination.

ManU playing with 2 strikers, Rooney and one other : Rooney already prove he cah play as a lone striker. Unless they playing the 3-3-4 still, with Ronaldo and Roony on the flanks and Saha (or some new striker they might buy) going through the middle.

Spurs playing 2 strikers, Liverpool playing 2 strikers, Chelsea SAY they playing 2 strikers, but that will change once they realise they not running away with the title this year. Is only Arsenal who might play with Henry alone and have men running in from midfield, but with Pires gone I feel Walcott and Adebayor will be lining up a lot more to give Henry support. Not to mention van Persie looking like the real deal now!

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 27, 2006, 07:26:45 AM
The EPL this year...
Liverpool will be the team to unseat Chelsea, but only if Fowler and Bellamy get to play together regularly but both are injury prone so we will see. Benitez is a master tactician and now they have the wingers he crying for since he reach.

Spurs cracking into the top 4, possibly 3, Martin Jol is a good coach and man manager, once he could juggle his midfiel properly. Carrick leaving might actually help them cause he have real other midfielders there with talent and Carrick was the only man guaranteed every game.

I not writing off Man U cause when they under stress and duress, is when they like to prove people wrong.

Arsenal...well it depends on how much of a dffernce Walcott make cause Henry carry them on his back last year. That have to take a toll on a player sometime,but Wenger is a boss at finding young players and turning them into world beaters so u never know which one of them players might be a match winner this year for Arsenal.

Beloved Newcastle to come 6th and make a run in Europe and grab the League Cup.

City and Everton to have good seasons and West Ham to have a difficult one after last year.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 07:30:23 AM

well tell me which of the top 6 teams going to actually play with 2 out and out strikers and forwards?
Arsenal have only one forward who guranteed of starting; Man U going to play Rooney alone and maybe bring Saha on as sub; and Spurs will be picking their 2 starters out of Berbatov, Keane and Defoe, they might even play with all 3 with Keane deeper.
So tell me where i talking shit bout Bellamy and Crouch isnt a good attack..sorry but i ent consider a one man show an 'attack'.
maybe i shoulda say they would make an effective combination.

ManU playing with 2 strikers, Rooney and one other : Rooney already prove he cah play as a lone striker. Unless they playing the 3-3-4 still, with Ronaldo and Roony on the flanks and Saha (or some new striker they might buy) going through the middle.

Spurs playing 2 strikers, Liverpool playing 2 strikers, Chelsea SAY they playing 2 strikers, but that will change once they realise they not running away with the title this year. Is only Arsenal who might play with Henry alone and have men running in from midfield, but with Pires gone I feel Walcott and Adebayor will be lining up a lot more to give Henry support. Not to mention van Persie looking like the real deal now!


That post just shows how good the prem is going to be next year, very good. I have my worries about Arsenal though.

West Ham (England C team ;D) will causes teams problems and Spurs (Yidos/Scum/england A/B team  ;D) are building their team well buy every single english player that shows a bit of potential, soon we will be seeing 8 year olds lining up for tottenham because they scored with their rear end against bunch of big ole men.

Liverpool just signed Pennant and have got gonalzes, nuff competition in their side expect for up front.

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 07:42:49 AM
The EPL this year...
Liverpool will be the team to unseat Chelsea, but only if Fowler and Bellamy get to play together regularly but both are injury prone so we will see. Benitez is a master tactician and now they have the wingers he crying for since he reach.

Spurs cracking into the top 4, possibly 3, Martin Jol is a good coach and man manager, once he could juggle his midfiel properly. Carrick leaving might actually help them cause he have re
I not writing off Man U cause when they under stress and duress, is when they like to prove people wrong.

Arsenal...well it depends on how much of a dffernce Walcott make cause Henry carry them on his back last year. That have to take a toll on a player sometime,but Wenger is a boss at finding young players and turning them into world beaters so u never know which one of them players might be a match winner this year for Arsenal.

Beloved Newcastle to come 6th and make a run in Europe and grab the League Cup.  ;D ;D

City and Everton to have good seasons and West Ham to have a difficult one after last year.

here here :beermug:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on July 27, 2006, 07:45:28 AM
Carib-Brighton...... um i am probably the biggest van nistelrooy fan..and it is hurting me inside that he is leaving..but i wish him the best and he will always be a united legend

and i was always thinking toress toress toress  but obviously he likes athletico and is staying put...  now we have rooney, saha, alan smith, solksjaer, and rossi...   they all sound like an excellent strike force... but i dont think that is a good enough strike force to win the league and challenge for CL....

but we will see...    looks like we are getting to Center mids    and thats what we need right now... Carrick and Javier Mascherano....   both play DM for their clubs but carrick could be used as a pure CM or AM... Mascherano... i think is very effitent  gets the job done but in a english style hard hitting way....  i think if man utd gets him  that will be a great buy...  carrick also....

its time to spend some of glazes money...

i want three players  Carrick..Mascherano... and i always wanted owen bt he is injured so i guess i would like to bring... defoe...  maybe man u could give spurs 25 mil pounds for both players  15 for carrick 10 for defoe

we will have to wait and see

See I what you would like that red devils and Big up Carib-Brighton I've always loved that poster. ;)

Someone needs to get Anelka I would say Man U but I dont see that happening, Arsenal might be sorting out their Defensive problem soon hopefully

Maybe he thinks you spend a lot of time in Brighton :whistling:

Liverpool have now signed Bellamy and Pennant. I guess that means the magistrates in Liverpool will be even busier next season  ;D

I think Bellamy will really set the EPL alight now he is there and if he stays fit, Liverpool will be Chelsea's main rival.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Remie on July 27, 2006, 07:47:04 AM
Carib-Brighton...... um i am probably the biggest van nistelrooy fan..and it is hurting me inside that he is leaving..but i wish him the best and he will always be a united legend

and i was always thinking toress toress toress  but obviously he likes athletico and is staying put...  now we have rooney, saha, alan smith, solksjaer, and rossi...   they all sound like an excellent strike force... but i dont think that is a good enough strike force to win the league and challenge for CL....

but we will see...    looks like we are getting to Center mids    and thats what we need right now... Carrick and Javier Mascherano....   both play DM for their clubs but carrick could be used as a pure CM or AM... Mascherano... i think is very effitent  gets the job done but in a english style hard hitting way....  i think if man utd gets him  that will be a great buy...  carrick also....

its time to spend some of glazers money...

i want three players  Carrick..Mascherano... and i always wanted owen bt he is injured so i guess i would like to bring... defoe...  maybe man u could give spurs 25 mil pounds for both players  15 for carrick 10 for defoe

we will have to wait and see

Small Magician I agree with you about not playing Carrick as a defensive/holding midfielder.

As a Spurs supporter having had the whole season to judge him, I can tell you he is a special talent. Players like him do not come along very often. The range of passing, the vision, the time on the ball he seems to have shows his class. The problem Carrick may have if that his current and future managers may play him out of position- i.e. and a defensive/holding midfielder. That is not his best position. He is not a natural ball winner, he is a creative player. Carrick’s ideal position is the role in which Pirlo played for Italy just in front of Gattuso. That is why I would love him to stay at Spurs to play just in front of Zokora. That would be a boss central midfield. Zokora pace and athleticism and Carrick’s creativity would be perfect. If he does go to Man U I just hope Fergie doesn’t waste his talent.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 27, 2006, 08:32:49 AM
i hear ya.....  but if fergie is trying to get both Carrick and Javier Mascherano  obviously Carrick will be used as the playmaker...    Scholes Carrick and Mascherano will all rotate throughout the season in CM
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 27, 2006, 08:40:03 AM
Doh let Fergie fool allyuh...it have no rotation policy at ManU. I sure everybody here could name the starting 4-4-2 for the treble winning season. Rotation is just a excuse to bench men when they start to figure they irreplaceable and to give the youngsters a rest.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: lickslikefire on July 27, 2006, 09:32:13 AM
The EPL this year...
Liverpool will be the team to unseat Chelsea, but only if Fowler and Bellamy get to play together regularly but both are injury prone so we will see. Benitez is a master tactician and now they have the wingers he crying for since he reach.

Spurs cracking into the top 4, possibly 3, Martin Jol is a good coach and man manager, once he could juggle his midfiel properly. Carrick leaving might actually help them cause he have real other midfielders there with talent and Carrick was the only man guaranteed every game.

I not writing off Man U cause when they under stress and duress, is when they like to prove people wrong.

Arsenal...well it depends on how much of a dffernce Walcott make cause Henry carry them on his back last year. That have to take a toll on a player sometime,but Wenger is a boss at finding young players and turning them into world beaters so u never know which one of them players might be a match winner this year for Arsenal.

Beloved Newcastle to come 6th and make a run in Europe and grab the League Cup.

City and Everton to have good seasons and West Ham to have a difficult one after last year.

Ah ain't know boy....yuh post confuse meh....I hope Walcott get playing time this season, so we could see the yute play...but ah cah see him making any "big difference" in Arsenal, since de man NEVER get a sweat in EPL yet....

I also doh agree with fowler and bellamy playing together...I feel fowler will be on de bench for sure, and be more effective coming off de bench.....and crouch and bellamy go start as Feliz stated earlier....and they will be a formidable strike duo as much as we trinis hate crouch....

IMHO it's Chelsea league again by a stretch, unless dey royally srew up....look for meh boy shevchenko to light up de EPL....

I feel Liverpool and Arsenal go fight up for 2nd and maybe try to challenge Chelsea at some point in the season, but to no avail....

and Man U and Tottenham fighting for that last Champion's League spot
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 27, 2006, 09:55:21 AM
I hope Walcott get playing time this season, so we could see the yute play...but ah cah see him making any "big difference" in Arsenal, since de man NEVER get a sweat in EPL yet....
Tthe man is a 12m pound player and an England international...so obviously he have something. Rooney made a difference his first EPL season, as did Owen. So if Walcott don't produce something and be that somethign that ups Arsenal as compared to last year, then their challenge will fall flat.

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I also doh agree with fowler and bellamy playing together...I feel fowler will be on de bench for sure, and be more effective coming off de bench
Bellamy say Fowler is his hero and he would love to play alongside him, Plus , according to reports Fowler set up most of the chances on goals in the pre-season they play together. IMHO, Robbie needs more time on the field in order to really make an impact. But...I not the coach, it is just a hope for me.
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IMHO it's Chelsea league again by a stretch, unless dey royally srew up....look for meh boy shevchenko to light up de EPL....
This is Chelsea's year to self destruct...because they wil make the mistake of dropping Makelele in order to accommodate Ballack, Lampard and Essien. Obi Mikel is already a drama-maker, so he will complain for time saying he coulda go ManU and sweat and he didn't fight to come to Chelsea to bench. Drogba ask to leave as soon as he hear Shevchenko coming and i highly doubt Mourinho changing a winning formula for Drogba's sake, so he will also bench and grumble. Too many cooks...one bad run of form and u will hear about unrest in the dressing room.

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 27, 2006, 10:03:23 AM
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This is Chelsea's year to self destruct...because they wil make the mistake of dropping Makelele in order to accommodate Ballack, Lampard and Essien. Obi Mikel is already a drama-maker, so he will complain for time saying he coulda go ManU and sweat and he didn't fight to come to Chelsea to bench. Drogba ask to leave as soon as he hear Shevchenko coming and i highly doubt Mourinho changing a winning formula for Drogba's sake, so he will also bench and grumble. Too many cooks...one bad run of form and u will hear about unrest in the dressing room.


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that little money hungry bitch... i hope all he sees is carling cup....  he cudda start at man utd... buh u pick to go to a club with ballack lampard makalele and essien.....     wa dey does teach in nigeria boy? obviously not common sense
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: lickslikefire on July 27, 2006, 10:30:56 AM
The man is a 12m pound player and an England international...so obviously he have something. Rooney made a difference his first EPL season, as did Owen. So if Walcott don't produce something and be that somethign that ups Arsenal as compared to last year, then their challenge will fall flat.

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I also doh agree with fowler and bellamy playing together...I feel fowler will be on de bench for sure, and be more effective coming off de bench
Bellamy say Fowler is his hero and he would love to play alongside him, Plus , according to reports Fowler set up most of the chances on goals in the pre-season they play together. IMHO, Robbie needs more time on the field in order to really make an impact. But...I not the coach, it is just a hope for me.
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IMHO it's Chelsea league again by a stretch, unless dey royally srew up....look for meh boy shevchenko to light up de EPL....
This is Chelsea's year to self destruct...because they wil make the mistake of dropping Makelele in order to accommodate Ballack, Lampard and Essien. Obi Mikel is already a drama-maker, so he will complain for time saying he coulda go ManU and sweat and he didn't fight to come to Chelsea to bench. Drogba ask to leave as soon as he hear Shevchenko coming and i highly doubt Mourinho changing a winning formula for Drogba's sake, so he will also bench and grumble. Too many cooks...one bad run of form and u will hear about unrest in the dressing room.


Last year men was saying de same ting..."Chelsea have an international reserve team...they doh have a team with heart.....they will have real men whining on de bench..."..but de fact is they still cut everybody arse......doh get me wrong....I HATE CHELSEA with a passion....I just saying how I seeing it....

Regarding Walcott.....you comparing that small man to Rooney and Owen....you ever see dat man play against "quality players"...I haven't, so I cah really make an informed opinion and I doh find yuh could justify a player's impact for a team based on how much money he making and if he is an english international....

I hear what yuh saying about Bellamy and fowler though, and hope that partnership materializes :beermug:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on July 27, 2006, 10:41:44 AM
The EPL this year...
Liverpool will be the team to unseat Chelsea, but only if Fowler and Bellamy get to play together regularly but both are injury prone so we will see. Benitez is a master tactician and now they have the wingers he crying for since he reach.

Spurs cracking into the top 4, possibly 3, Martin Jol is a good coach and man manager, once he could juggle his midfiel properly. Carrick leaving might actually help them cause he have real other midfielders there with talent and Carrick was the only man guaranteed every game.

I not writing off Man U cause when they under stress and duress, is when they like to prove people wrong.

Arsenal...well it depends on how much of a dffernce Walcott make cause Henry carry them on his back last year. That have to take a toll on a player sometime,but Wenger is a boss at finding young players and turning them into world beaters so u never know which one of them players might be a match winner this year for Arsenal.

Beloved Newcastle to come 6th and make a run in Europe and grab the League Cup.

City and Everton to have good seasons and West Ham to have a difficult one after last year.
Spidey ah have to agree to everything yuh say there..let we hope Newcastle produce also fuh real  :)

concernign Man U..is Rooney alone up top with Scholes behind..like allyuh did forget Scholes coming back or what?..that was for you specifically JDB lol..Sir ent go play Rooney and Saha at the same time unless he have to chase a game...right now Nistelrooy looking out de picture.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: davidephraim on July 27, 2006, 11:03:30 AM
Dis EPL season go have little drama.  Arsenal go reduce it to a one horse race wit de ress fightin fuh de crumbs. 

Wit dat....is really only individuals go be gettin my interest.

Who Carlos Edwards end up playin wit

Obi Mikel wit Chelsea and how he do...if he get playin time

Theo Walcott and how much run he go get and wha kinda impact he go have.

How Ronaldo respond to de English fans and media

Oddah dan dat....ho hum.

Predictions....

EPL winners - Arsenal

Player of the Year - Thierry Henry

Young player of the year - Obi Mikel or Theo Walcott (dependin of course on how much run dem get)

Leading goalscorer - Craig Bellamy / Thierry Henry - tie





Wid dem kind a predictions ah hope Martha Stewart give you some insider info  because yuh risky dread!!!

Doh take no odds on dem predictions ah beggin yuh..... :D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Jumbie on July 27, 2006, 12:01:15 PM
SPURS!.. no need to say more.


BTW..it would be nice to have Carlos in the prem.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on July 27, 2006, 04:00:21 PM
anybody know if the Van Nistelrooy deal will just be cash?
maybe they shoulda tell Real to throw in Gravesen in the deal
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 28, 2006, 05:22:43 AM
Well when one great player goes out... one great player comes in

Man Utd Confirm Carrick Capture

Tottenham are expected to confirm the sale of their England midfielder Michael Carrick to Manchester United in an £18million deal later on Friday.

 
Spurs, who rejected a bid of £10million from United earlier this summer, are understood to have accepted their increased offer for the player.


Reports suggest the deal to take Carrick to Old Trafford was finally completed early this morning and he is expected to be unveiled as a United player later today.

The deal came just hours after Real Madrid claimed they had clinched the signing of United's Dutch striker Ruud van Nistelrooy for a fee in the region of £10million.

The striker is believed to have signed a three-year deal with the Spanish giants after quitting United in the wake of his end-of-season bust-up with Sir Alex Ferguson.

However, while United allowed the player to travel to Madrid for a medical, the Premiership club insisted no deal had been finalised.

Carrick's move to Old Trafford will land Spurs a handsome profit on a player they signed from West Ham for just £2.75million two years ago.

Ferguson has been a long-time admirer of the midfielder who will help fill the void left by the departed Roy Keane. Although he will not be a direct replacement for the Irishman, Carrick's passing skills will provide them with an outlet they have lacked since Keane left the club.

Carrick's loss will still be a major blow for Spurs coach Martin Jol who helped the 25-year-old force his way into Sven-Goran Eriksson's World Cup squad.

The Dutch coach had hoped that Carrick would repay the club's loyalty by staying at White Hart Lane but Spurs would not agree to the player's wage demands - reported to be around £50,000-a-week.

Carrick had two years left on his Tottenham deal but had rejected a new contract offer in the wake of United's persistent interest.

Tottenham's determination to hold out for a fee which closely matched their £20million valuation of the player means has given them more transfer cash to spend but Jol will not need to buy a replacement for Carrick.

Tottenham have already signed 22-year-old Benoit Assou-Ekotto from Lens and spent £10.9m on Bulgarian striker Dimitar Berbatov but missed out on Chelsea's left-winger Damien Duff.

But the summer signing of Ivory Coast international Didier Zokora will make Carrick's departure somewhat less painful for Jol, who can now continue his search for a left-sided midfielder in earnest.

Carrick will become United's fifth most expensive signing behind Rio Ferdinand, Juan Sebastian Veron, Wayne Rooney and Van Nistelrooy.

United visit Amsterdam next week where they are due to play both Porto and Ajax and Carrick is expected to be part of the squad.


Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Sam on July 28, 2006, 05:51:27 AM
This would be my team if I was an EPL manager and could not afford the BIG stars. I find some of these no name or under rated EPL players are good.

GK - Antti Niemi (Middlesbrough)

RB - Alberto Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
CB - Anton Ferdinand (West Ham)
CB - Ledley King (Tottenham)
LB - Wayne Bridge (Fulham)

RW - Jermaine Pennant (Liverpool)
CM - Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham)
DM - Lassana Diarra (Chelsea)
LW - Stelios Giannakopoulos (Bolton)

RF - Juan Pablo Angel (Aston Villa)
LF - Jose Antonio Reyes (Arsenal)

My Subs.

RF - Jason Roberts (Blackburn)
LF - Marlon Harewood (West Ham)
CF - Mohamed Sissoko (Liverpool)
CM - Joey Barton (Man-City)
LW - Nigel Reo-Coker (West Ham)
CB - Brett Emerton (Blackburn)
CB - Radhi Jaidi (Bolton)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 28, 2006, 06:35:40 AM
Ey Sam...I eh know bout them men being underrated. Ledley King, Jenas, Joey Barton and Reyes all going to cost you more than 10million each. But I know what u mean...
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: andre samuel on July 28, 2006, 07:16:25 AM
18 million for carrick? dat is madness!!

de man is ah good player, but 18 million? dat is real madness

ah love it!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on July 28, 2006, 09:19:01 AM
Chelsea will be hard to crack, but if 'Pool could get off to a good start, it could be a nice race.  That defence was trouble last year, and I don't expect anything different from 'Pool this year.  Rafa has made some very good additions, but we need a 15-20 goal striker (Kuyt).  Arsenal will compete, but I think their back line will be bullied and ganstered again by powerful forwards like Drogba.  They too young in the back. Man U will be OK, but I think that that they need another central defender (not sold on Silvestre and Vidic).  They need another striker, cause Solskajer not going to cut it.  Teams to watch:  Spurs (can't understand how the Big Four let Berbatov slip from below their noses), Newcastle (Yes. Look for Roeder to redeem himself), Blackburn (will spoil the party of the Big Four by shaving points), West Ham, Bolton (Big Sam and his consistency)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on July 28, 2006, 09:43:28 AM
SPURS!.. no need to say more.


BTW..it would be nice to have Carlos in the prem.

Oh Lord...poor Spurs.  Jumbie backin dem.  Mind dem get relegated.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on July 28, 2006, 09:44:46 AM
This would be my team if I was an EPL manager and could not afford the BIG stars. I find some of these no name or under rated players are good.

GK - Antti Niemi (Middlesbrough)

RB - Alberto Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
CB - Anton Ferdinand (West Ham)
CB - Ledley King (Tottenham)
LB - Wayne Bridge (Fulham)

RW - Jermaine Pennant (Liverpool)
CM - Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham)
DM - Lassana Diarra (Chelsea)
LW - Stelios Giannakopoulos (Bolton)

RF - Juan Pablo Angel (Aston Villa)
LF - Jose Antonio Reyes (Arsenal)

My Subs.

RF - Jason Roberts (Blackburn)
LF - Marlon Harewood (West Ham)
CF - Mohamed Sissoko (Liverpool)
CM - Joey Barton (Man-City)
LW - Nigel Reo-Coker (West Ham)
CB - Brett Emerton (Blackburn)
CB - Radhi Jaidi (Bolton)

No room fuh Carlos Edwards in yuh no name / underrated squad?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on July 28, 2006, 10:13:29 AM
This would be my team if I was an EPL manager and could not afford the BIG stars. I find some of these no name or under rated players are good.

GK - Antti Niemi (Middlesbrough)

RB - Alberto Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
CB - Anton Ferdinand (West Ham)
CB - Ledley King (Tottenham)
LB - Wayne Bridge (Fulham)

RW - Jermaine Pennant (Liverpool)
CM - Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham)
DM - Lassana Diarra (Chelsea)
LW - Stelios Giannakopoulos (Bolton)

RF - Juan Pablo Angel (Aston Villa)
LF - Jose Antonio Reyes (Arsenal)

My Subs.

RF - Jason Roberts (Blackburn)
LF - Marlon Harewood (West Ham)
CF - Mohamed Sissoko (Liverpool)
CM - Joey Barton (Man-City)
LW - Nigel Reo-Coker (West Ham)
CB - Brett Emerton (Blackburn)
CB - Radhi Jaidi (Bolton)

No room fuh Carlos Edwards in yuh no name / underrated squad?

Palos, ah throwing in Dawson from Spurs (real potential as a center back), Benayoun (Hatters).  Sissoko is a holding midfielder (DM); ah see yuh have him as ah CF. 
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mr Fix-it on July 28, 2006, 11:36:12 AM
I think if Man U has a good opening season the might pull off the upset.  Historically, ManU always have a strong second half to the EPL so I am hoping that they can win there first 10 to 12 games and that way make the lions pay in the end.

The Gunners always looked good but I am not sure about this season.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mose on July 28, 2006, 03:29:07 PM
I'm expecting Chelsea to win the EPL again this season but in a much closer race than the last couple of seasons. From position 2 to 5, I figure it go be de usual suspects, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs and Arsenal. Hard to pick who in dat group go finish where but I think Man U is most likely to drop down from dey 2nd place last year. Also I'm looking for Newcastle to make a comeback and show some improvement this year.

Most likely to unseat Chelsea? I figure Liverpool or Arsenal this year.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 29, 2006, 11:51:49 AM
I'm expecting Chelsea to win the EPL again this season but in a much closer race than the last couple of seasons. From position 2 to 5, I figure it go be de usual suspects, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs and Arsenal. Hard to pick who in dat group go finish where but I think Man U is most likely to drop down from dey 2nd place last year. Also I'm looking for Newcastle to make a comeback and show some improvement this year.

Most likely to unseat Chelsea? I figure Liverpool or Arsenal this year.


U tink newcastle cud get higher than 7th..coz that wher they finish last year..they was at 6th at one point
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on July 29, 2006, 07:25:10 PM
I'm expecting Chelsea to win the EPL again this season but in a much closer race than the last couple of seasons. From position 2 to 5, I figure it go be de usual suspects, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs and Arsenal. Hard to pick who in dat group go finish where but I think Man U is most likely to drop down from dey 2nd place last year. Also I'm looking for Newcastle to make a comeback and show some improvement this year.

Most likely to unseat Chelsea? I figure Liverpool or Arsenal this year.


U tink newcastle cud get higher than 7th..coz that wher they finish last year..they was at 6th at one point
ah have to say that was  real good comebck to end de season after that Souness crap.
that team always had potential..if they get a good start..they making top5 easily
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 30, 2006, 11:31:37 AM
I'm expecting Chelsea to win the EPL again this season but in a much closer race than the last couple of seasons. From position 2 to 5, I figure it go be de usual suspects, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs and Arsenal. Hard to pick who in dat group go finish where but I think Man U is most likely to drop down from dey 2nd place last year. Also I'm looking for Newcastle to make a comeback and show some improvement this year.

Most likely to unseat Chelsea? I figure Liverpool or Arsenal this year.


U tink newcastle cud get higher than 7th..coz that wher they finish last year..they was at 6th at one point
ah have to say that was  real good comebck to end de season after that Souness crap.
that team always had potential..if they get a good start..they making top5 easily

top 5 ? i hope so. i thinkin about 8th
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on July 30, 2006, 11:00:11 PM
This would be my team if I was an EPL manager and could not afford the BIG stars. I find some of these no name or under rated EPL players are good.

GK - Antti Niemi (Middlesbrough)

RB - Alberto Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
CB - Anton Ferdinand (West Ham)
CB - Ledley King (Tottenham)
LB - Wayne Bridge (Fulham)

RW - Jermaine Pennant (Liverpool)
CM - Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham)
DM - Lassana Diarra (Chelsea)
LW - Stelios Giannakopoulos (Bolton)

RF - Juan Pablo Angel (Aston Villa)
LF - Jose Antonio Reyes (Arsenal)

My Subs.

RF - Jason Roberts (Blackburn)
LF - Marlon Harewood (West Ham)
CF - Mohamed Sissoko (Liverpool)
CM - Joey Barton (Man-City)
LW - Nigel Reo-Coker (West Ham)
CB - Brett Emerton (Blackburn)
CB - Radhi Jaidi (Bolton)

  I Really like your pick for starting 'keeper and since yuh didn't name one to the bench, I will nominate Carlo Cudicini for that role and maybe even split time between the posts.
    Even if John Obi Mikel doesn't get much playing time (Chelsea's lineup, especially their midfield is downright FRIGHTENING!!......but I wish they would have gotten or still WOULD get rid of Arjen Robben) I at least think that he will leave a big impression on the premiership fans.  I won't say much more about him, but barring possibly a bad attitude, he WILL impress!!  I really don't see that chelsea's competition is going to come from the primiership this year.......but, football, as any sport , is a funny thing.  What we see on paper, might not turn out to be so on grass.


     Where the fashion is concerned, the only nike product you will see me wearin' is a Barcelona or Brazil (in alphabetical order).  Adidas RIGHT THROUGH!!
   Even though I is a Mourinho fan, and ah cyah stand Benitez and Liverpool.......their kit this season is NICE, too!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jose on July 31, 2006, 06:47:37 AM
chelsea all the way,sheva is exactly what chelsea were missing,a 20 goal a season striker.look out for chelsea.they are jus so consistent
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 31, 2006, 06:55:11 AM
I figure Sheva could be the spark they missing in Europe but I not seeing 3 in a row for Chelsea...not in the EPL. This is not the French League. When last a side win 3 straight in Italy, Spain or England? I not seeign that happening...
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 31, 2006, 07:51:15 AM
spurs revealed the fee agreed for carrick

18.6 million pounds  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: lickslikefire on July 31, 2006, 08:10:28 AM
I figure Sheva could be the spark they missing in Europe but I not seeing 3 in a row for Chelsea...not in the EPL. This is not the French League. When last a side win 3 straight in Italy, Spain or England? I not seeign that happening...

I have a question: When last did a team spend the amount of money that Chelsea has and when last did a team boast a roster of players like chelsea that can play and beat teams consistently.  

I not saying they winning for sure cause it's football and anything could happen....but they definitely are the favourites in my book

Also, who's yuh pick for La Liga this year?  Since Barcelona win it in the last 2 yrs, I guess it's not dem?

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: JDB on July 31, 2006, 09:37:58 AM
I figure Sheva could be the spark they missing in Europe but I not seeing 3 in a row for Chelsea...not in the EPL. This is not the French League. When last a side win 3 straight in Italy, Spain or England? I not seeign that happening...

United win 3 straight just a few years ago 2000-2002.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 31, 2006, 09:50:24 AM
I figure Sheva could be the spark they missing in Europe but I not seeing 3 in a row for Chelsea...not in the EPL. This is not the French League. When last a side win 3 straight in Italy, Spain or England? I not seeign that happening...

United win 3 straight just a few years ago 2000-2002.

jdb    yeh utd won 98-99 99-00 00-01 .... arsenal won in 01-02 and utd won 02-03

4 outta 5
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: FF on July 31, 2006, 11:04:48 AM
Man U ppl have a read here

How Ferguson is destroying his legacy!!

Thoughts... comments

http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1827876,00.html
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 31, 2006, 11:22:36 AM

Also, who's yuh pick for La Liga this year?  Since Barcelona win it in the last 2 yrs, I guess it's not dem?


Real...Capello is a born winner and Real not going emptyhanded for so long.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 31, 2006, 11:23:26 AM

United win 3 straight just a few years ago 2000-2002.

jdb    yeh utd won 98-99 99-00 00-01 .... arsenal won in 01-02 and utd won 02-03

4 outta 5
Quote
That differnt...ManU had Yorkie then  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Jay10 on July 31, 2006, 01:00:00 PM
The team to beat is Chelsea

Liverpool, and Arsenal............possibly Man u may be the ones to upset them this year

As much as chelsea hav a world class squad, and as much as I luv dem................dis just mite be d year we handin ova our crown......................

NOT

                             Cech
ferreria      carvallo          terry           gallas
                      maka
       lampard           essien
         ballack           robben
                  sheva

back 4 not so sure but a damn good team anyway............
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 31, 2006, 03:42:04 PM
Manchester United have completed the signing of Michael Carrick from Tottenham Hotspur.

The England midfielder put pen-to-paper for The Red Devils on Monday after he finalised personal terms and passed a medical.

The Red Devils have agreed to pay Spurs up to £18.6 million for Carrick, although part of the fee is dependant on appearances and other factors.

Carrick will be unveiled by United on Wednesday as the club's first signing of the summer.

Sir Alex Ferguson has already confirmed that Carrick will be wearing number 16 for United next season - Roy Keane's old shirt.

 
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: FF on July 31, 2006, 03:46:24 PM
ah see nobody ent comment... ah feel allyuh ent see it lemmeh post it in all its glory!!

Thoughts... comments?

Shredding his legacy at every turn  

Sir Alex Ferguson's brilliance famously knocked Liverpool off their perch. Now his incompetence is doing the same to Manchester United. How did it come to this, wonders Rob Smyth

Monday July 31, 2006
Guardian Unlimited

 
Winding down: Ferguson no longer has the stomach or the wit for the fight. Photograph: Getty.
 
It was John Cleese, in Clockwise, who said: "I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." Manchester United fans would beg to differ. Usually, the best thing about pre-season is the hope: reality's incisors have yet to pierce the gums of optimism, and fans can live off the balmy, often barmy belief that this is their year. For supporters of most of the other 91 English clubs, that's the mood right now. For United fans? Forget it. After three seasons of papering over the cracks, it seems most United fans are awaiting the moment that the fault lines tracing a veiny path across Old Trafford are exposed.

Almost everything about the club reeks of disarray. Owned by the Glazers, who push buttons from a remote hideaway like Dr Evil; run by a manager who shreds his legacy at every turn; almost exclusively represented by the inadequate (Darren Fletcher and Kieran Richardson) and the odious (Rio Ferdinand); unable to close a deal for West Brom's reserve keeper, never mind the new Roy Keane. The signing of Michael Carrick, a Pirlo when a Gattuso was needed, is a band aid for a bullet wound, and a ludicrously expensive one at that.
If anything, it's a surprise that United have bought anyone at all. This summer, they have been like a pathetic drunk lumbering across a dancefloor at 1.45am, trying to get off with everything that moves. No matter how many people they move in for - and if reports are to be believed, United have made offers for dozens of players - nobody wants to go near them. And the one person who surely would, Damien Duff, was allowed to slip into the arms of Newcastle for less than United paid for Patrice Evra. You couldn't make it up. You don't have to.

United finished second last season, but that said more about the deficiency of the Premiership than their own. Arsenal will not have a four-month blind spot this season, while all evidence suggests that Liverpool's gradient will continue on its upward trajectory. With Tottenham getting stronger, even with the loss of Carrick, it is entirely conceivable that, if they start slowly, United could finish fifth; in today's environment, that would be disastrous.

The problems are so obvious, so fundamental, as to be beggar belief that they have not been addressed. Just as the glory years of 1992 to 2001 will only fully be appreciated in 20 years' time, so will Ferguson's subsequent failure. It is particularly bewildering that a man who once exerted such an unyielding grip on every single aspect of the club that he had to be virtually coerced into delegating has let things slip to this extent. Take the Cristiano Ronaldo situation: Ferguson said recently that he had not even spoken to Ronaldo since the World Cup, a staggering dereliction of duty that is in total contrast to the us-against-the-world protection that he gave to David Beckham - and for which, for a time, he was so thrillingly rewarded - in 1998.

Once upon a time Ferguson could play 'who blinks first' with fate and win every time, his iron will shaping his destiny exactly as he wanted. Now he is reduced to uttering garbage like "it's like having a new signing" of Paul Scholes, Ole Solskjaer, Gabriel Heinze and Alan Smith, the irrational if-I-say-it-enough-it-might-happen gibberish you'd associate with a serial loser like Kevin Keegan. These days, the man they call The Hairdryer is full of nothing but hot air.

Ferguson's squad, once so taut, is a baggy mess of has-beens, never-will-bes and Liam Miller. The simple repetition of 4-4-2, of Giggs, Scholes, Keane, Beckham, Cole and Yorke, has given way to myriad tactical and personnel changes, to a ruinous obsession with utility players and tinkering. It's a truly appalling fact that, with Ruud van Nistelrooy gone, none of United's outfield players have played in only one position at the club. A nadir was reached in the FA Cup game at Wolves last season, when nearly £60m of defensive and attacking talent (Ferdinand and Wayne Rooney) was used in the centre of midfield.

It is an increasingly inescapable conclusion that, unwittingly or otherwise, Ferguson is winding down, a prizefighter who no longer has the stomach or the wit for an admittedly enormous challenge which, once upon a time, he would have fervently inhaled. Like he did with Liverpool. Ferguson's almost maniacal yearning to "knock Liverpool off their f**king perch" was arguably the single most important factor in United's 1990s renaissance. It makes it all the more vicious an irony that, 10 years later, he should knock United off the perch he had made for them through increasingly rank mismanagement.

Indeed, it must irk him beyond belief that United are making exactly the same mistakes that Liverpool did: lack of pheromones in the transfer market; laughable, fall-back signings at suspicious and ridiculous prices; deluded ramblings ("we are as good as Chelsea, no question") - and, worst of all, a dressing-room where playing the field seems as important as playing the game. Liverpool's Spice Boys were bad, but they have nothing on Merk Berks like Ferdinand, Richardson and Wes Brown.

Ferguson has taken this end-of-an-empire template and, incredibly, managed to develop it: he's added a sprawling, outsized squad chock-full of obscenely well-paid deadwood; insultingly obvious spin that a two-year-old could see through (the Van Nistelrooy saga); economy with the truth (Ferguson ridiculed a journalist for saying that Paul Scholes had been scouting for United; a few days later Scholes confirmed the story); a coaching set-up that had Wayne Rooney playing wide for a season and turned Ronaldo from the world's most thrilling off-the-wall talent into a run-of-the-mill winger.

Ferguson, an essentially honourable man, is partly suffering because of the impossibly high standards he set, and he carries the fatigued incomprehension of a man who is out of time. When he cites his favourite United team it is not the Treble-winners of 1999, but the Double-winners of 1994: Schmeichel, Bruce, Pallister, Ince, Keane, Hughes, Cantona, Robson - a team that dripped masculinity, who bonded over blockbusting Saturday-night sessions, who embodied the old-school values to which Ferguson can relate. Real men. The gentrification generation - sarong-wearing, pink champagne-swigging metrosexuals - are entirely beyond his comprehension. He could handle one, David Beckham, for a time before eventually giving up on him. Now he has a pack of them, for whom the hairdryer means only one thing - a trip to Toni & Guy. It is a different world. Ferguson probably doesn't even know what 'merk' means.

Everywhere, principles are being sacrificed. In years gone by Ferdinand - who for all his irrefutable ability is the type of character whose presence in a United shirt symbolises everything that has gone wrong with the club - would've been out the door faster than Paul Ince could say 'big-time Charlie', but now Ferguson can't afford to lose his only world-class defender. In years gone by he wouldn't have considered signing someone like Patrick Vieira, on grounds of age or character, but now he is left looking for someone, anyone, to appease the fans. In years gone by he would never have given a game to someone like John O'Shea, whose sole use is to put the podge in a hodgepodge midfield. In years gone by, he would never have sanctioned the mediocre football that, except for a few giddy weeks in the spring of 2003, United have played ever since Carlos Queiroz arrived in 2002 masquerading gobbledygook as continental sophistication.

And the thing is, it is only going to get worse: Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham have all made shrewd, cheap signings and are on an upward trajectory. United are going the other way: they are hugely dependent on Ferdinand and Rooney, but no amount of Carling Cup medals is going to sate their ambition. Then there is the Glazer factor, the full, inevitable horror of which is only just beginning to emerge. United fans think this season is going to be bad. It hasn't even started.

rob.smyth@guardian.co.uk
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 31, 2006, 04:17:49 PM
ok number 1.....f**k you FF

number 2..... f**k you whoever wrote that backward thinking third world article

number 3 f**k all the manchester united haters.... allyuh trinis dat just hate man utd is because a rich spoilt brat showoff named dwight yorke f**ked up himself at united and allyuh wanna blame fergie...so f**k allyuh

yorke is a boss player but his attitude killed him there .... the new dwight yorke..the leader..is a much better yorke



may 2007 we will see... i am not saying we are winning the league.. but 5th yuh stupid english c**t?...no way
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 01, 2006, 01:11:50 AM
ok number 1.....f**k you FF

number 2..... f**k you whoever wrote that backward thinking third world article

number 3 f**k all the manchester united haters.... allyuh trinis dat just hate man utd is because a rich spoilt brat showoff named dwight yorke f**ked up himself at united and allyuh wanna blame fergie...so f**k allyuh

yorke is a boss player but his attitude killed him there .... the new dwight yorke..the leader..is a much better yorke



may 2007 we will see... i am not saying we are winning the league.. but 5th yuh stupid english c**t?...no way

Calm down fella.  I have been backing Liverpool since the 80s.  I never jump on no Man U wagon.  Reality is that Man U are not the team that brought trepidation to the opposition like in the 90s.  Sir Alex is being matched by great tacticians at the other big English clubs, and his team is no longer the automatic choice of non-English big names that wish to play in the prem.  The tide is changing, whether you like it or not.  Truth is, Man U signing Carrick still does not give them "steel" in the middle.  Carrick is more about artistry, if you ask me.  Hargreaves might have been closer in the mold of a Keene.  Graveson would have been a good man too.  If he really wanted another Keene, he shoudda tempt Milan with that type of money for Gattuso.  Dem Italian teams does sell amongst themselves, if the price is right, so they might have bitten the bait.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: FF on August 01, 2006, 06:14:41 AM
ok number 1.....f**k you FF

number 2..... f**k you whoever wrote that backward thinking third world article

number 3 f**k all the manchester united haters.... allyuh trinis dat just hate man utd is because a rich spoilt brat showoff named dwight yorke f**ked up himself at united and allyuh wanna blame fergie...so f**k allyuh

yorke is a boss player but his attitude killed him there .... the new dwight yorke..the leader..is a much better yorke



may 2007 we will see... i am not saying we are winning the league.. but 5th yuh stupid english c**t?...no way

I ask for thoughts and comments and this is all you was capable of? ???

I know you young but show a little more maturity nah! The man never say dey finishing 5th he say it could be possible....

The man back up he argument with his reasoning... if you disagree let us see your points so we could get some good clean debate! Instead of all dis internet posturing and e-thuggery.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: superoli on August 01, 2006, 06:36:57 AM
I know you dont like what you read but I think a lot of it has basis in fact.
It is well known that Man U dressing room is in dissaray with players trying to leave. You have to wonder why players are refusing to sign for them, back in times you had to form a queue !
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 01, 2006, 06:52:51 AM
I can't see what the problem is. Man United have been accused of being in a crisis for the last ten years and they always come up trumps.

Remember Alan Hansen's comments "You can't win anything with kids", well they did, in fact they won the treble so I would not write them off yet.

Fergie knows what he is doing and I fully expect them to be there or there abouts come the end of the season.
Title: English Football League Form Guides
Post by: Andre on August 01, 2006, 10:38:34 AM
championship: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_div_1/5175924.stm
league 1: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_div_2/5175922.stm
league 2: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_div_3/5176388.stm

LUTON TOWN


Latest club news

Nickname: The Hatters
Ground: Kenilworth Road
Capacity: 9,975
Last season: 10th
Manager: Mike Newell (June 2003)

In: Adam Boyd (Hartlepool, £500,000), Richard Langley (QPR), Lewis Emanuel (Bradford)

Out: Steve Howard (Derby, £1m), Kevin Nicholls (Leeds, £750,000), Enoch Showunmi (Bristol City)

BBC Sport verdict: The loss of Kevin Nicholls and Steve Howard makes life more difficult for Luton after they impressed last season.

But the Hatters got £1.7m for the duo and there is plenty left from the £3m sale of Curtis Davies last summer too.

Any improvement on last season will depend on how Newell spends his money but they should survive comfortably.

Key man: Carlos Edwards. Had a great World Cup for Trinidad & Tobago

PORT VALE


Latest club news

Nickname: The Valiants
Ground: Vale Park
Capacity: 22,356
Last season: 13th
Manager: Martin Foyle (February 2004)


In: Paul Harsley (Macclesfield), Colin Miles (Yeovil), Akpo Sodje (Darlington), Jason Talbot (Mansfield), Richard Walker (Crewe), Danny Whitaker (Macclesfield)

Out: Jonny Brain (Macclesfield), Michael Cummins (Darlington), Tony Dinning (Stockport), Craig James (Darlington), Steve Rowland, Hector Sam (Walsall)

BBC Sport verdict: Port Vale have hung on to most of last year's squad, but look unlikely to better last season's half-way finish.

Boss Martin Foyle will hope his side can continue to make steady progress.

But not even Robbie Williams' recent investment is likely to bring anything other than another season in mid-table.

Key man: Chris Birchall. Midfielder is bound to attract transfer speculation after returning from the World Cup.

WREXHAM


Latest club news

Nickname: Red Dragons
Ground: Racecourse Ground
Capacity: 15,500
Last season: 13th
Manager: Denis Smith (October 2001)

In: Steve Evans (TNS), Chris Llewellyn (Hartlepool), Neil Roberts (Doncaster), Juan Ugarte (Crewe), Ryan Valentine (Darlington)

Out: Dave Bayliss (Lancaster City), Dean Bennett (Chester), Andy Holt (Northampton), Alex Smith, Jon Walters (Chester), Jim Whitley

BBC Sport verdict: Denis Smith has brought old favourites Juan Ugarte, Chris Llewellyn and Neil Roberts back to their old stomping ground.

This sleeping Welsh dragon threatens to breathe fire before all too often drifting back into a doze.

After flirting with promotion, expect a mid-table finish.

Key man: Dennis Lawrence. Giant defender fresh from bigging it up in the World Cup in Germany.

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 02, 2006, 11:37:25 AM
something to make utd fans smile

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/carrickfergie.jpg)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mose on August 02, 2006, 12:23:45 PM
I'm expecting Chelsea to win the EPL again this season but in a much closer race than the last couple of seasons. From position 2 to 5, I figure it go be de usual suspects, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs and Arsenal. Hard to pick who in dat group go finish where but I think Man U is most likely to drop down from dey 2nd place last year. Also I'm looking for Newcastle to make a comeback and show some improvement this year.

Most likely to unseat Chelsea? I figure Liverpool or Arsenal this year.


U tink newcastle cud get higher than 7th..coz that wher they finish last year..they was at 6th at one point

Good point. I thought they finished lower than that. The best I see them doing is a maybe 5th place. I think they more likely to end up right back around where they finish last year. 6/7/8.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mose on August 02, 2006, 12:38:19 PM
BTW, I've been a Man U fan for almost 30 yrs and I definitely don't see them beating Chelsea this year. As a matter of fact I would be happy with 5th or better. Something is missing in this team. They don't dominate games like they used to a couple of years ago. And I think their 2 biggest stars at the moment (Rooney and Ronaldo) are fragile mentally.

Their strike force (although, they can score goals) is not exactly awe inspiring. Defence? Who knows what we'll get this year. At least Heinze is back, but if anything happens to him... Father put a hand fuh Evra.

I think the team lacks chemistry and cohesion. Hopefully Fergie can find something/someone to hold them together.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 02, 2006, 01:26:41 PM
something to make utd fans smile

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/carrickfergie.jpg)

ey..carrick is a newcastle boy at heart.. ( hes from the toon )
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on August 03, 2006, 06:43:48 AM
BTW, I've been a Man U fan for almost 30 yrs and I definitely don't see them beating Chelsea this year. As a matter of fact I would be happy with 5th or better. Something is missing in this team. They don't dominate games like they used to a couple of years ago. 

The thing that missing is the intimidation factor from a couple years ago. Teams used to show up looking to minimise the amount of licks they getting from ManU, now teams believe they can beat them. Chelsea and Arsenal mash up their aura, now they 'just another big team', not the 'great ManU'.
The swagger of Eric Cantona has finally worn off...
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 03, 2006, 10:20:25 AM
Not enough Englishmen, with the exception of Arsenal, I strongly believe that a core of good English talent is the key.

I'm not suggesting English players are better, but I do believe that english players want to win the English league more than overseas players. If you look at the treble winning side, it had a core of young English players who came up through the youth system together and would sweat blood for each other. This, along with the passion and drive of Roy Keane gave them this belief that, even if they were 2-0 down with 5 minutes to go, they could still win.

Man U have still got a very strong side, but they seem to miss some passion, Something that Mourinho has developed in the Chelsea team.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 03, 2006, 10:42:47 AM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/priceless.jpg)

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 03, 2006, 02:36:54 PM
Actually, it's £48 plus a £2 booking fee to get into the Bridge.

£50 to watch a game of football, outrageous.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 09, 2006, 07:55:11 PM
who allyuh think go be the first managerial casualty for this season?
ah picking Chris Coleman
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Remie on August 10, 2006, 04:13:55 AM
who allyuh think go be the first managerial casualty for this season?
ah picking Chris Coleman

That is a very good choice. I'l go for Warnock of Sheffield United.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on August 10, 2006, 07:21:13 AM
Sir Alex  :devil:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: takenoprisoners on August 10, 2006, 02:32:40 PM
BBC Sport

Man Utd capture Kuszczak on loan

Manchester United have signed Polish goalkeeper Tomasz Kuszczak on a season-long loan from West Brom, with a view to a possible permanent move.
In exchange, the Baggies will get defender Paul McShane and goalkeeper Luke Steele on a permanent basis.

Kuszczak, 24, will act as understudy to United's first-choice goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar, with youngster Ben Foster staying a second season at Watford.

Kuszczak can stake a claim to be United number one when Van der Sar retires.

The Dutchman is expected to call time on his own career after Euro 2008.

Kuszczak, who has won four caps for Poland, spent three years in Germany with Hertha Berlin before arriving at West Brom two years ago.

Sir Alex Ferguson's attempts to land the keeper had been frustrated throughout the summer, with an initial £2.5m bid rejected.

But with Kuszczak now at Old Trafford, Foster getting Premiership experience with Watford and Tim Howard on loan at Everton, United are hopeful they have enough strength in the goalkeeping department to maintain healthy competition for the next five years at least.

The transfer of Steele is unlikely to go down well with Coventry, who signed the youngster on loan from United.

But the player was recalled, then immediately sold to one of their local Coca-Cola Championship rivals.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 10, 2006, 02:49:50 PM
BBC Sport

Man Utd capture Kuszczak on loan

Manchester United have signed Polish goalkeeper Tomasz Kuszczak on a season-long loan from West Brom, with a view to a possible permanent move.
In exchange, the Baggies will get defender Paul McShane and goalkeeper Luke Steele on a permanent basis.

Kuszczak, 24, will act as understudy to United's first-choice goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar, with youngster Ben Foster staying a second season at Watford.

Kuszczak can stake a claim to be United number one when Van der Sar retires.

The Dutchman is expected to call time on his own career after Euro 2008.

Kuszczak, who has won four caps for Poland, spent three years in Germany with Hertha Berlin before arriving at West Brom two years ago.

Sir Alex Ferguson's attempts to land the keeper had been frustrated throughout the summer, with an initial £2.5m bid rejected.

But with Kuszczak now at Old Trafford, Foster getting Premiership experience with Watford and Tim Howard on loan at Everton, United are hopeful they have enough strength in the goalkeeping department to maintain healthy competition for the next five years at least.

The transfer of Steele is unlikely to go down well with Coventry, who signed the youngster on loan from United.

But the player was recalled, then immediately sold to one of their local Coca-Cola Championship rivals.


United are also leading the race to sign Diarra from Lyon  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:

that is why the Senna move is being put on hold
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: takenoprisoners on August 10, 2006, 03:50:14 PM
Distin in limbo

Sky Sports

Trabelsi seals City move

Manchester City boss Stuart Pearce has continued his squad strengthening at Eastlands with the capture of Tunisian defender Hatem Trabelsi.

The rampaging full back has moved to Manchester on a free transfer from Dutch titans Ajax and has linked up with a squad which has already been swelled by the arrivals of Paul Dickov, Ousmane Dabo, Bernardo Corradi, Dietmar Hamann and Joe Hart.

Trabelsi, who had fitness problems earlier in his career, came through a rigorous medical before committing his future to City and Pearce is happy with his latest recruit.

"He is one of the best Bosmans of the summer," Pearce told the club's website.

"He has played at the highest level for Ajax, and been to three World Cups. He captains his country as well, so it is a good CV."

Trabelsi will increase competition for places at Eastlands, but Pearce will not be forced into underselling his players.

Sylvain Distin is believed to be ready to leave the club, but Pearce will not entertain taking less than market value for the French defender.

"Until people meet our valuation of Sylvain, he will stay where he is, which will only benefit me because he is a good player," said Pearce.

"It would be no skin off my nose if he enters the final year of his contract. I am a football manager, a year is a hell of a long time in football management."
Title: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: ballpiyong on August 15, 2006, 02:00:27 PM
Yeah Fellas its that time, let me hear what allyuh think about the top four finshers & relegated clubs.

My Picks:

Top Four in order 1st to 4th : Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U...

Relegated : Watford, Sheffield Utd, Wigan..

Note: I believe chelsea will do it again this year. Everyone concerned with pre season form but i glad they getting licks now to wake them up and protect against complacency

Liverpool may just miss out again this year, they are building a great squad but they need to fill another quality striking position for this to be a reality.

Arsenal are building a great young team but i think they need another striker to take the load off henry especially if reyes leaves.

I think this is the time that Alex Ferguson really bounce he head by selling off Ruud. He has been the top scorer every year for the team. It seems Alex may really pay this time around, he got away slighty with the falling out with others like Yorkie, Beckham, Stam, Keane.

Let me see what you all think????????
P.S. Dont reply after Bobby Mc Mahon gives predictions on friday night on Fox Sports.!!!
Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: morvant on August 15, 2006, 02:07:00 PM
arsenal beat villa in their last 5 games so i say 2-0
Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 15, 2006, 02:20:01 PM
1st to 4th......... Man Utd...Chelsea...Arsenal...Liverpool

relegated: Watford..Sheffield Utd and Fulham

Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: morvant on August 15, 2006, 02:21:19 PM
1st to 4th......... Man Utd...Chelsea...Arsenal...Liverpool

relegated: Watford..Sheffield Utd and Fulham



meh boy shotta feel sheffield go mash up

i feel dey go pull ah wigan
Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: kicker on August 15, 2006, 02:26:51 PM
Yeah Fellas its that time, let me hear what allyuh think about the top four finshers & relegated clubs.

My Picks:

Top Four in order 1st to 4th : Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U...


What a risk taker you are....those are the most outrageous picks I could imagine in the top 4  :P
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2006, 08:08:18 AM
updating the thread



United offer for Hargreaves

 England midfielder Owen Hargreaves says he is weighing up a lucrative offer for his services from Manchester United.

The Bayern Munich man is expected to team up with Frank Lampard at the heart of The Three Lions' midfield for the friendly against Greece on Wednesday, but has domestic concerns to consider as well.

He has only just signed a contract extension with the Bundesliga giants, but has always wanted to prove himself in England.

It has now emerged that Sir Alex Ferguson has made a concrete offer for the Canadian-born player and Hargreaves is mulling over whether to make a long-awaited move to The Premiership.

"The offer from Manchester United is fantastic," Hargreaves told Sport Bild.

"Particularly as an England international, it is of interest and you never know if such an opportunity will arise again.

"Now is the time to take the next step to develop even further."

With the transfer deadline at the end of the month fast approaching, Ferguson had been tipped to bring in Villarreal's Marcos Senna, but the deal is thought to have stalled on the £8 million asking price for the midfielder.

The Red Devils have therefore turned to Hargreaves to join injured £18.6 million man Michael Carrick at the club.

Munich meanwhile, insist that the 25-year-old will remain at the Allianz Arena for the remainder of his contract.

"I have just spoken with [general manager] Uli Hoeness and he is absolutely clear that selling Owen Hargreaves is not an issue," Bayern press officer Markus Horwick stated.

"I think what Mr Hoeness says is enough to end any speculation.

"Owen Hargreaves will be staying with us for the remaining four years on his contract."

Having lost Michael Ballack already this summer, the German champions seem prepared to dig their heels in to hang on to the key central midfielder and United may now have to concentrate their search for a midfielder further afield.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 16, 2006, 09:04:09 AM
I hope Hargreaves does go to United. Carrick and Hargreaves could well form a formidable partnership for Man U and England.
Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: dwn on August 16, 2006, 09:10:38 AM
I think Tottenham will upset that top 4.

I dont think Chelsea is going to win again.



Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2006, 09:24:42 AM
yeh it will help england  because they will get experience club wise and that could only enhance england's team
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: ndookie on August 16, 2006, 10:30:20 AM
It will help Manchester United too , give a strong midfield that win and keep possesion a bit more than last years midfield does , because that is really the key for united .. because overall , the team is a winner , always was and always will be , so expect good things this season..

Speaking of Man Utd , anyone know the cost to buy the games on PPV from Columbus Communications ?

Ah fed up waiting to see replay ah match..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2006, 10:32:10 AM
It will help Manchester United too , give a strong midfield that win and keep possesion a bit more than last years midfield does , because that is really the key for united .. because overall , the team is a winner , always was and always will be , so expect good things this season..

Speaking of Man Utd , anyone know the cost to buy the games on PPV from Columbus Communications ?

Ah fed up waiting to see replay ah match..

it doesnt matter....setanta sports got all the games now... ppv doesnt make a difference....   
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: ndookie on August 16, 2006, 10:41:56 AM
Setanta Sports ?

Tell me more..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2006, 10:47:42 AM
Direct TV    ...... channel 615....  dont think dey have it in TnT   ......  if dey do i will buy Direct TV 2day  das nah a lie
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: ndookie on August 16, 2006, 10:58:12 AM
If that really on Direct tell meh eh , because Direct en that expensive , and ah mean , IS ALL THE MAN U games , thas priceles..

Anybody here working Direct TV ?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2006, 11:10:13 AM
If that really on Direct tell meh eh , because Direct en that expensive , and ah mean , IS ALL THE MAN U games , thas priceles..

Anybody here working Direct TV ?

yeh if yuh cud get Setanta Sports in tnt  on direct tv   i for one willllll buy direct tv.....   
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: ndookie on August 16, 2006, 11:45:22 AM
Wednesday, August 16, 2006
   Channel #   Channel Name    13:30-14:00   14:00-14:30   14:30-15:00   
15:00-15:30   
varied..
   217   FX    .   FX Fuel Deportes Extremos    FX Speed
deportes
   606   FOXS     Fútbol para todos   .
   612   ESPI     Tenis - A.T.P. Masters Series
   614   ESP2     Mexican Football Weekly Show   ATV Racing    Fútbol amistoso Internacional
   616   GOLF     European Tour: KLM Open
   652   BEIS     Today Chicago Cubs v Houston Astros    Chicago Cubs v Houston Astros
mundos
   766   RAI    .    Italia - Croazia
   776   GLBO    .    Futebol Amistoso

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

No setanta.. Anyone else does carry it ?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2006, 04:46:53 PM
Setanta is on Direct TV....   but u have to order it... it doesnt come with Direct TV....  but i dont think you cud get Setanta in TnT ....     why u doe give dem a call 2moro
Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: ndookie on August 16, 2006, 10:52:08 PM
Man Utd winning .. everything else doh matter..

And Man Utd 2 - Fulham - 0.
Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: andre samuel on August 17, 2006, 06:07:47 AM
1. Chelsea
2. Liverpool
3. Arsenal
4. Tottenham
5. Man United

18. Fulham
19. Watford
20. Reading

Sheffield going make ah big run............dey coach good!!

ah love it!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Remie on August 17, 2006, 08:05:58 AM
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Portsmouth
6. Spurs (my team)

18. Man City
19. Fulham
20. Sheff Utd
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 17, 2006, 08:47:30 AM
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Portsmouth
6. Spurs (my team)

18. Man City
19. Fulham
20. Sheff Utd

I like that, wish I was as optimistic as you are ;D

I predict

1 Liverpool
2 Chelsea
3 Man U
4 Tottenham
5 Arsenal

8 Portsmouth

17 Reading
18 Watford
19 Fulham
20 Sheffield United
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 17, 2006, 08:47:59 AM
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Portsmouth
6. Spurs (my team)

18. Man City 
19. Fulham
20. Sheff Utd

wud i love to see that!!!........   


 man utd second   :-[     first biatch  ;)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Remie on August 17, 2006, 09:00:26 AM
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Portsmouth
6. Spurs (my team)

18. Man City
19. Fulham
20. Sheff Utd

I like that, wish I was as optimistic as you are ;D

I predict

1 Liverpool
2 Chelsea
3 Man U
4 Tottenham
5 Arsenal

8 Portsmouth

17 Reading
18 Watford
19 Fulham
20 Sheffield United

Harry is a top class boss with plenty money at his disposal. Now that players of the calibre of Campbell have signed i can see more players being attracted to Pompey. If Harry can get another striker in like Yakubu then i can definately see them being up there. Spurs need to sign a left mid quickly. We played Davids left mid for the whole of last season!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 17, 2006, 09:54:52 AM
If we can get Obafemi Martins, Sully Muntari and Manuel Fernandes then a EUFA spot is a definate possibility.

we have made the best offer for Martins, it is just a case of persuading him he doesn't want to play CL football for a couple of seasons.

hopefully he is greedy and will take our offer.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: ribbit on August 17, 2006, 08:17:30 PM
If we can get Obafemi Martins, Sully Muntari and Manuel Fernandes then a EUFA spot is a definate possibility.

we have made the best offer for Martins, it is just a case of persuading him he doesn't want to play CL football for a couple of seasons.

hopefully he is greedy and will take our offer.

looks like they signed kanu.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 18, 2006, 02:18:00 AM
If we can get Obafemi Martins, Sully Muntari and Manuel Fernandes then a EUFA spot is a definate possibility.

we have made the best offer for Martins, it is just a case of persuading him he doesn't want to play CL football for a couple of seasons.

hopefully he is greedy and will take our offer.

looks like they signed kanu.

Kanu is very well respected in Nigeria. hopefully that will help persuade Martins to jon us.

Beers are on me if we do :cheers:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 18, 2006, 07:56:11 PM
here's my predictions for this weekend games

Arsenal vs Aston Villa = 3-1
Blackburn vs Pompey = 1-1
Bolton vs Hotspurs = 0-3
Charlton vs West Ham = 2-1
Chelsea vs Man City = 4-1
Everton vs Watford = 2-2
Fulham vs Man U = 0-3
Liverpool vs Sheffield = 4-0
Middlesborough vs Reading = 1-0
Newcastle vs Wigan = 3-0
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 18, 2006, 08:38:01 PM
WE NEED LIVE STREAMS FOR THIS WEEKEND


especially Utd vs Fulham......    TnT gets no games now cuz of Setanta.....   in tnt 2moro   games dat showing

Saturday

10 am live   Newcastle v Wigan

12 15 live   Bolton v Spurs

2 15 Delayed   Reading v Boro

Sunday

11 00 Live  Chelsea v Mancity







I would like to wake up an see live streams for

1) Liverpool v Sheffield Utd    7 30 am live  setanta

2) Arsenal v Aston Villa     10 am live  setanta

sunday

3) Utd v Fulham.... 8 30 am live   setanta....PLESE HELP SMALL MAG!!!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 19, 2006, 05:18:57 AM
If we can get Obafemi Martins, Sully Muntari and Manuel Fernandes then a EUFA spot is a definate possibility.

we have made the best offer for Martins, it is just a case of persuading him he doesn't want to play CL football for a couple of seasons.

hopefully he is greedy and will take our offer.

looks like they signed kanu.



Kanu is very well respected in Nigeria. hopefully that will help persuade Martins to jon us.

Beers are on me if we do :cheers:


i wanted martins 2 come 2 newcastle..he looks a good player. But then all this stuff about him being 6 years older than he actually is?..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 19, 2006, 05:23:19 AM
Season starting in bout 15 mintues and ah still have yampee in meh eye lol
ah ent able with this tgetting up too early on Saturday morning nah lol

Jub whats Newcastle starting team today?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 19, 2006, 05:33:59 AM
http://www.footballstreamslive.com/



nice thing dere man.....    i have sopcast so i just connecting d channel which playing d games......


looks like guandong showing d sheffield v liverpool  :beermug:   and dey supposed to show arsenal v villa
 
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 19, 2006, 05:37:58 AM
Setanta not even showing facking Liverpool vs Sheffield as they supposed to..must be technical difficulties or some shit..steups
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 19, 2006, 05:41:33 AM
stewps   what f**king FSC posers lol


neway if you live abroad and experience fast broadband well sopcast will be a dream come true for you.....   i have normal dsl and guandong running good good....   espn taking a while to start  but i trying it cuz i rather hear english dan whang dong whang chan dip lee suzuki lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 19, 2006, 05:51:50 AM
ok game start on Setanta now..ah guees ah had meh times mixed up  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: freakazoid on August 19, 2006, 06:07:22 AM
look out 4  a playa name tonge from shefield utd
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 19, 2006, 07:44:58 AM
SHEFFIELD!!!  :beermug:

1-1 FT....
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 19, 2006, 08:31:02 AM
Season starting in bout 15 mintues and ah still have yampee in meh eye lol
ah ent able with this tgetting up too early on Saturday morning nah lol

Jub whats Newcastle starting team today?

Given

Bramble
Moore
Carr
Babayaro

Butt
Solano
Emre
Parker

Duff
Ameobi

..N'zogbia come on for Duff 16 mins in. N zog shud be starting anyway.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 19, 2006, 08:31:39 AM
Sorry Bout that..
I mean N'zogbia came on for BUTT 16 mins in..not duff (confusing)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 19, 2006, 10:00:18 AM
Some confusing results so far..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Midknight on August 19, 2006, 10:03:31 AM
If we can get Obafemi Martins, Sully Muntari and Manuel Fernandes then a EUFA spot is a definate possibility.

we have made the best offer for Martins, it is just a case of persuading him he doesn't want to play CL football for a couple of seasons.

hopefully he is greedy and will take our offer.

looks like they signed kanu.

looks like they made a good decision. he just failed to get a hatrick by missing a penalty he earned himself  :o

I sure wish i could have seen that reading match though...
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: triniairman on August 19, 2006, 12:35:14 PM
The game between Bolton and Tottenham was ah surprise to me,with all them big players Tottenham got they could not beat Bolton who got two good goals,and on top of that Diouf hitting man drag through out the game.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: FF on August 19, 2006, 01:44:59 PM
The game between Bolton and Tottenham was ah surprise to me,with all them big players Tottenham got they could not beat Bolton who got two good goals,and on top of that Diouf hitting man drag through out the game.

No surprise... they dont call it Fortress Reebock for nothing....

tottenham havent beaten bolton there for five seasons straight now!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: andre samuel on August 20, 2006, 06:45:31 AM
here's my predictions for this weekend games

1. Arsenal vs Aston Villa = 3-1
2. Blackburn vs Pompey = 1-1
3. Bolton vs Hotspurs = 0-3
4.Charlton vs West Ham = 2-1
5. Chelsea vs Man City = 4-1
6. Everton vs Watford = 2-2
7. Fulham vs Man U = 0-3
8. Liverpool vs Sheffield = 4-0
9. Middlesborough vs Reading = 1-0
10. Newcastle vs Wigan = 3-0

Spanish.........let meh see how yuh looking so far....

Wrong Predictions - 7 (ah just checking results, not de score)

Correct Predictions - 1

Pending Games - 2

ah watching yuh predicitons and ah seeing yuh last in de league, tings ent looking so good with you this year or what??.......lol

ah love it!!

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 20, 2006, 06:51:12 AM
here's my predictions for this weekend games

1. Arsenal vs Aston Villa = 3-1
2. Blackburn vs Pompey = 1-1
3. Bolton vs Hotspurs = 0-3
4.Charlton vs West Ham = 2-1
5. Chelsea vs Man City = 4-1
6. Everton vs Watford = 2-2
7. Fulham vs Man U = 0-3
8. Liverpool vs Sheffield = 4-0
9. Middlesborough vs Reading = 1-0
10. Newcastle vs Wigan = 3-0

Spanish.........let meh see how yuh looking so far....

Wrong Predictions - 7 (ah just checking results, not de score)

Correct Predictions - 1

Pending Games - 2

ah watching yuh predicitons and ah seeing yuh last in de league, tings ent looking so good with you this year or what??.......lol

ah love it!!

well yes  ;D
ah trying tuh throw allyuh off meh back lol

but look at it.. Arsenal shoulda hit Villa bout 4 lol
Liverpool, Spurs and Blackburn just didnt show up.
i sure a lot of us was surpised by Pompey.
Everton get a theif penalty too lol
them excuses good enough? ;D

well ah sure ah getting the Man U result fuh sure after that start they have 4-0 already lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: troy piloy on August 20, 2006, 06:58:26 AM
Man U score 4 goals in the 1st 20mins.

Like Alex aint taking any prisoners this season.

Man U ain't want to end up like Liverpool and Arsenal yesterday

Troy 8)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Blue on August 20, 2006, 07:00:01 AM
Man U score 4 goals in the 1st 20mins.

Like Alex aint taking any prisoners this season.

Man U ain't want to end up like Liverpool and Arsenal yesterday

Troy 8)

Looks like they'll be taking the precious runner-up spot this season.  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: daryn on August 22, 2006, 06:09:18 AM
If we can get Obafemi Martins, Sully Muntari and Manuel Fernandes then a EUFA spot is a definate possibility.

we have made the best offer for Martins, it is just a case of persuading him he doesn't want to play CL football for a couple of seasons.

hopefully he is greedy and will take our offer.

looks like they signed kanu.

Kanu is very well respected in Nigeria. hopefully that will help persuade Martins to jon us.

Beers are on me if we do :cheers:

Newcastle agree £10 million fee for Inter's Martins
soccernet.com

Newcastle are understood to have agreed a £10million fee with Inter Milan for Nigerian striker Obafemi Martins.

(http://soccernet-att.espn.go.com/design05/images/JonMC/Martins-205-Nigeria.jpg)


The player's representative has been on Tyneside and has now returned to Italy to discuss the offer with his client.

'I can confirm we have agreed a fee with Inter Milan for Obafemi Martins,' Newcastle chairman Freddy Shepherd told the club's website.

'It is now up to the player and the agent to agree terms on the offer.'

Martins yesterday revealed that a deal was 80% done, and Magpies chairman Freddy Shepherd and manager Glenn Roeder will hope to finalise the transfer as they attempt to find a replacement for retired captain Alan Shearer.

Roeder has turned to the Inter Milan striker after being warned off Germany forward Miroslav Klose.

Martins himself seems keen to head for England, with the 21-year-old saying yesterday: 'I'm close to moving to Newcastle despite all the initial setbacks. Eighty per cent of the deal with Newcastle is completed.

'Playing in the Premiership has been a long-term ambition and I am extremely delighted with the prospect of concluding that in the next couple of days.'

Shepherd may have more cash to play with should misfit Jean-Alain Boumsong complete a proposed £4.5million move to Juventus.

The north-east club are desperate for a top-drawer striker. Alan Shearer has retired while England forward Michael Owen is not expected back until 2007 after his World Cup knee injury.

The 21-year-old Martins, who joined Inter in 2002, is a powerfully built forward who can run at defences.

In December last year he extended his Inter contract until 2010 but the close-season acquisitions of Argentina striker Hernan Crespo from English champions Chelsea and Sweden frontman Zlatan Ibrahimovic from Juventus, in the wake of Italy's match-fixing scandal, have pushed him down the pecking order.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 22, 2006, 07:05:07 AM
BIG TWIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Pompey Renew Bid to Snatch away Martins

 Skysports.com understand that Portsmouth have made a renewed bid to snatch Obafemi Martins from under the noses of Newcastle.

We revealed on Sunday that a €16 million (£10.9 million) deal had been struck between Newcastle and Internazionale for the Nigerian striker.

"I can confirm we have agreed a fee with Inter Milan for Obafemi Martins," chairman Freddy Shepherd told the club's website.

"It is now up to the player and the agent to agree terms on offer."

However, it can now be revealed that Pompey have not given up hope of landing Martins and have now made a fresh bid - with an increased offer of personal terms.

It is now believed that Martins is seriously considering making the move to Fratton Park rather than St James' Park.

Newcastle held lengthy discussions over the weekend with Martins's representatives and progress was made. But nothing was signed and that has given Portsmouth the opportunity they needed to make their move.

While Newcastle can offer Martins big wages, they cannot live with the new found financial power of Pompey - who are now bankrolled by Alexandre Gaydamak.


source- skysports.com



Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 22, 2006, 07:20:27 AM
 :praying: :nailbiting:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: supporter on August 22, 2006, 07:27:30 AM
portsmouth really trying to pretend to be a big club since their new russian daddy came in. but they did look really good last weekend and have made some good moves, especially on the backline. adding martins will be huge if they could pull it off.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 22, 2006, 08:36:04 AM
 :praying:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Peong on August 22, 2006, 01:58:29 PM
I see Juve sign Boumsong.  Is he really worth 5 million Euros?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Midknight on August 22, 2006, 02:18:28 PM
I see Juve sign Boumsong.  Is he really worth 5 million Euros?

hell no...
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 22, 2006, 02:46:36 PM
I see Juve sign Boumsong.  Is he really worth 5 million Euros?

hell no...

hell hell hell no
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 22, 2006, 05:22:55 PM
I see Juve sign Boumsong.  Is he really worth 5 million Euros?

hell no...

hell hell hell no

all ah could say is..GOOD RIDDANCE!!!
and ah woulda like tuh see him join Arsenal though  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: daryn on August 23, 2006, 03:00:04 PM
yeah well chelsea just get licks.  give up 2 late goals to boro
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 23, 2006, 03:11:47 PM
yeah well chelsea just get licks.  give up 2 late goals to boro

chelsea comin bak quarter way thru league big time i feel give a shock to man u .
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 23, 2006, 03:29:24 PM
HAHAHA GLORY GLORY BORO BORO BORO BORO BORO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MAN UTD 3   CHARLTON 0

CHELSKI 1      BORO 2


UTD 8 GOALS 2 GAMES!!!   6 PTS!!   1ST!!

GLORY GLORY
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 23, 2006, 04:03:28 PM
some piks

by the way  that away kit is so flikin dread  :D :D

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705490.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705452.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705729.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705246.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705236.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705171.jpg)




 ;)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/nice.jpg)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on August 23, 2006, 04:19:03 PM
Plenty pics a Ronaldo dey smallie.  All forgiven or wha?  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Grande on August 23, 2006, 04:30:00 PM
yeah the kit bad in truth. Small mag yuh eh realize de AIG stand for "Arsenal Is Great" or what
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 23, 2006, 04:36:44 PM
yeah the kit bad in truth. Small mag yuh eh realize de AIG stand for "Arsenal Is Great" or what

yuh mean Arsenal is GAY!!!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: supporter on August 24, 2006, 06:32:48 AM
Ben Thatcher should be banned from football for weeks after his tackle on Pedro Mendes.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Remie on August 24, 2006, 07:24:52 AM
Every season Thatcher never lets us down with his 'thugery'. And to think Spurs actually paid £5m for him.

PS Pompey, do believe me now when i said Portsmouth were gonna finish 5th?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Cantona007 on August 24, 2006, 08:59:58 AM
Thanks for the pics, Small Mag. It is good to see 20Legend scoring again... fire for all this season.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 24, 2006, 09:55:30 AM
Obafemi Martins arrive at Newcastle for a medical  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 24, 2006, 03:37:23 PM
Every season Thatcher never lets us down with his 'thugery'. And to think Spurs actually paid £5m for him.

PS Pompey, do believe me now when i said Portsmouth were gonna finish 5th?

I'm starting to believe, although it will be harder without our play maker for a few games. Every time I see the incident it looks worse, apparantly Man City fans have reported seeing an assault and teh police are obliged to follow it up so Ben Thatcher may be looking at a lot more than a telling off from the FA.

Mind you, he did the same to Nicky Sommerbee when he was at Wimbledon, he managed to puncture someones lung in a pre-season friendly in Korea and that his third attempt at elbowing someone last night.

Nice bloke Ben Thatcher ::)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 24, 2006, 03:48:13 PM
For any who intrested..  ;D
Obafemi Martins was unveiled at the Newcastle United v Fk Ventspils match ( he jus walk around n stuff ) . Damn im happy now..if he get injured i am cursed.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 24, 2006, 06:12:50 PM
For any who intrested..  ;D
Obafemi Martins was unveiled at the Newcastle United v Fk Ventspils match ( he jus walk around n stuff ) . Damn im happy now..if he get injured i am cursed.
what number he goiing to wear?
ah ent think he good enought tuh wear Shearer No.9 at the moment..but we go see
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on August 24, 2006, 06:14:35 PM
[what number he goiing to wear?
ah ent think he good enought tuh wear Shearer No.9 at the moment..but we go see

So they should perhaps play with 10 men?  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 24, 2006, 06:47:10 PM
[what number he goiing to wear?
ah ent think he good enought tuh wear Shearer No.9 at the moment..but we go see

So they should perhaps play with 10 men?  ;D
doh worry..we go know who is de second coming of Shearer when we see him lol
but then again there is only one Alan Shearer right  ;D

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 26, 2006, 08:56:03 AM
For any who intrested..  ;D
Obafemi Martins was unveiled at the Newcastle United v Fk Ventspils match ( he jus walk around n stuff ) . Damn im happy now..if he get injured i am cursed.
what number he goiing to wear?
ah ent think he good enought tuh wear Shearer No.9 at the moment..but we go see

he got de 9 shirt.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 26, 2006, 10:01:29 AM
Watford 1    UTD 2.... FT

3 in 3......  Silvestre 12' Giggs 52'  .... nice preformance... after the second goal we locked up the defence


We're Gonna Win The League...We're Gonna Win The League.... UTD UTD UTD!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: dumpalewie on August 26, 2006, 10:09:08 AM
Plenty pics a Ronaldo dey smallie.  All forgiven or wha?  ;D
Small Mag I ent see you answer this yet!!! ::)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 26, 2006, 10:18:56 AM
Watford 1    UTD 2.... FT

3 in 3......  Silvestre 12' Giggs 52'  .... nice preformance... after the second goal we locked up the defence


We're Gonna Win The League...We're Gonna Win The League.... Newcastle UTD UTD UTD!!

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Ponnoxx on August 26, 2006, 11:09:23 AM
 I backing Newcastle for EPL success this season
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: supporter on August 26, 2006, 04:19:07 PM
Manchester United will WIN the EPL this season. Mark my words

Also, Andrew Johnson is the best pickup of any English club this year. Everton look good.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 26, 2006, 04:37:59 PM
For any who intrested..  ;D
Obafemi Martins was unveiled at the Newcastle United v Fk Ventspils match ( he jus walk around n stuff ) . Damn im happy now..if he get injured i am cursed.
what number he goiing to wear?
ah ent think he good enought tuh wear Shearer No.9 at the moment..but we go see

he got de 9 shirt.
steups..i ent think he is a good enough finisher..just another real fast player who does get lucky most of the times.
he better start with some goals tomorrow yes
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 26, 2006, 05:40:32 PM
For any who intrested..  ;D
Obafemi Martins was unveiled at the Newcastle United v Fk Ventspils match ( he jus walk around n stuff ) . Damn im happy now..if he get injured i am cursed.
what number he goiing to wear?
ah ent think he good enought tuh wear Shearer No.9 at the moment..but we go see

he got de 9 shirt.
steups..i ent think he is a good enough finisher..just another real fast player who does get lucky most of the times.
he better start with some goals tomorrow yes
if he jus another fast player den i vex.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 26, 2006, 05:56:06 PM
Manchester United will WIN the EPL this season. Mark my words

Also, Andrew Johnson is the best pickup of any English club this year. Everton look good.

a wise man...


yes andrew johnson is the buy of the premier league so far....  ps merseyside blue are looking dangerous   far more potent dan chelski and assanal
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on August 26, 2006, 06:17:26 PM
Manchester United will WIN the EPL this season. Mark my words

Also, Andrew Johnson is the best pickup of any English club this year. Everton look good.

a wise man...


yes andrew johnson is the buy of the premier league so far....  ps merseyside blue are looking dangerous   far more potent dan chelski and assanal
Wow they beat Tottenham & Watford.
 ::)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 26, 2006, 06:20:11 PM
Wow dey also went Blackburn and got a point ...   7 pts from 3 games is fantastic.....

y dont you hush yuh f**king mouth you assanal gunnar fag!..  1 pt from 2 games       17th in the table   can you speak ....?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 26, 2006, 06:24:02 PM
Wow dey also went Blackburn and got a point ...   7 pts from 3 games is fantastic.....

y dont you hush yuh f**king mouth you assanal gunnar fag!..  1 pt from 2 games       17th in the table   can you speak ....?
at dis rate..Arsenal might not even be in contention for de Intertoto  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 26, 2006, 06:32:35 PM
ok man...  great great... .....but unlike utd  we have the class to lose a opening day game and win the league    arsenal doesnt....

great talking with you fag bag...    enjoy your uefa cup 6th placed season

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 26, 2006, 06:48:15 PM
ok man...  great great... .....but unlike utd  we have the class to lose a opening day game and win the league    arsenal doesnt....

great talking with you fag bag...    enjoy your uefa cup 6th placed season


You know what I don't need to bother wid because your a waggonist. You wish you were born in England like me, thats why you always going England 4 Lyfe You NF. You Can't Have Yuh Shoe In Two Places Like Me. Begger I got pain proof of ur foolishness, you have Jack Shit.

I was born & raised in North London, Arsenal Manor

Where were you? (Btw this is not a shot at Everyone, Just Eediat bwoy and his nonsense)
Support Your Local League Boi, I hardly see you talk about that in the PFL threads.

Wasteman :rotfl:


nah i will support my club in england....     secondly i glad i am a trini  but i lov england...   the passion is what excites me about the place....   2006 has been great in tnt... because we finnaly felt a hint of passion....

as you can tell i am passionate about the teams i like.....     

call me a waggonist if you like... but tnt is my home and if you realy know me  you no i just rite england 4 life to annoy palos....   


but let me tell you something i am not a waggonman....    anyway i will continue to support england and UTD to the upmost because i am very passionate towarsds patriotism.......and you being english should be proud of that


i done discussion now....   i'll be the bigger man and end the feud

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 26, 2006, 06:58:47 PM
Wow dey also went Blackburn and got a point ...   7 pts from 3 games is fantastic.....

y dont you hush yuh f**king mouth you assanal gunnar fag!..  1 pt from 2 games       17th in the table   can you speak ....?

u sound like a man u thug. did u learn how to be one from supportin de team?  ???
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on August 26, 2006, 07:00:47 PM
Wow dey also went Blackburn and got a point ...   7 pts from 3 games is fantastic.....

y dont you hush yuh f**king mouth you assanal gunnar fag!..  1 pt from 2 games       17th in the table   can you speak ....?

u sound like a man u thug. did u learn how to be one from supportin de team?  ???
Jub02 Dead It Please :rotfl: Yuh Nah See Me Delete my posts to stop this chupidness :rotfl:

You Got Martins? How Do You Feel? All That Pace He Gonna Run The Ball off The Pitch ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 26, 2006, 07:03:52 PM
nah i will support my club in england....     secondly i glad i am a trini  but i lov england...   the passion is what excites me about the place....   2006 has been great in tnt... because we finnaly felt a hint of passion....

as you can tell i am passionate about the teams i like.....     

call me a waggonist if you like... but tnt is my home and if you realy know me  you no i just rite england 4 life to annoy palos....   


but let me tell you something i am not a waggonman....    anyway i will continue to support england and UTD to the upmost because i am very passionate towarsds patriotism.......and you being english should be proud of that


i done discussion now....   i'll be the bigger man and end the feud



Bruv, Same Reason I said this To You, You Don't Know Jack. My Nick Name Is ''British-Wadadlian-Nutmegger A.K.A BGN'' So I know I Who I Repping my screen name is Carib-BRITON for goodness sake. You Repping England you not from there or have roots here (So I Assume By Man Dem Response on here). That England 4 Lyfe Chant is a chant used by RACISTS, I educating you and you ent listening but you carry on and stay like them ediats, thats why I laughing at you not because I particular wanted to pop shots at you (You brought the stupidness first remember that, Mainly I was WINDIN YOU UP! ;D I believe it worked ;D)

I have no time for arguement, My girl calling me, I just come back from Panaroma and Notting Hill 2 moro and Monday for me so I want my rest.

Just to Stay On Topic, If Not Arsenal(As Im an Arsenal Supporter and must believe in my team) Liverpool for the Title.

ok cool man..... thanks for educating me lol.....   i still learning.. i young and passionate....   



and jub   i am just a trini hoo supports utd...  with a mouth and trini inside  i guess i mite seem like a utd thug lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on August 26, 2006, 07:08:00 PM
nah i will support my club in england....     secondly i glad i am a trini  but i lov england...   the passion is what excites me about the place....   2006 has been great in tnt... because we finnaly felt a hint of passion....

as you can tell i am passionate about the teams i like.....     

call me a waggonist if you like... but tnt is my home and if you realy know me  you no i just rite england 4 life to annoy palos....   


but let me tell you something i am not a waggonman....    anyway i will continue to support england and UTD to the upmost because i am very passionate towarsds patriotism.......and you being english should be proud of that


i done discussion now....   i'll be the bigger man and end the feud



Bruv, Same Reason I said this To You, You Don't Know Jack. My Nick Name Is ''British-Wadadlian-Nutmegger A.K.A BGN'' So I know I Who I Repping my screen name is Carib-BRITON for goodness sake. You Repping England you not from there or have roots here (So I Assume By Man Dem Response on here). That England 4 Lyfe Chant is a chant used by RACISTS, I educating you and you ent listening but you carry on and stay like them ediats, thats why I laughing at you not because I particular wanted to pop shots at you (You brought the stupidness first remember that, Mainly I was WINDIN YOU UP! ;D I believe it worked ;D)

I have no time for arguement, My girl calling me, I just come back from Panaroma and Notting Hill 2 moro and Monday for me so I want my rest.

Just to Stay On Topic, If Not Arsenal(As Im an Arsenal Supporter and must believe in my team) Liverpool for the Title.

ok cool man..... thanks for educating me lol.....   i still learning.. i young and passionate....   



and jub   i am just a trini hoo supports utd...  with a mouth and trini inside  i guess i mite seem like a utd thug lol

I still young too and people on here have educated me too, I do stupid things as well, Even Triniman has helped me out when I was being silly (He Probably Would of Told Me Off Just For Now), and hes a Canadian ;D (Sorry I Couldn't Help It)
Hes My On-Site Uncle ;D

I was windin you up with that supporting crap, if that was the true I would be a waggonist of the SocaWarriors and plus Man U & England wouldnt make so much money from shirt sells ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 26, 2006, 07:24:19 PM
Wow dey also went Blackburn and got a point ...   7 pts from 3 games is fantastic.....

y dont you hush yuh f**king mouth you assanal gunnar fag!..  1 pt from 2 games       17th in the table   can you speak ....?

u sound like a man u thug. did u learn how to be one from supportin de team?  ???
Jub02 Dead It Please :rotfl: Yuh Nah See Me Delete my posts to stop this chupidness :rotfl:

You Got Martins? How Do You Feel? All That Pace He Gonna Run The Ball off The Pitch ;D

Lol . i happy bout dat. but jus sometime i get vex coz ppl start chattin crazy ...i understand yuh small mag..yuh very passionate  ;) lol

but i do love arsenal aswell as newcastle . i hope dey do well. i ent too bothered if man u do well..jus de fans pee me off sometime. chelsea fans aint so bad..i noe some is glory supporters but dey dont act so arrogant....sooner or later dey will and dey will be the most hated team in england ( currently its still man  u ).

this is wot i wud LIKE to see : ( i be realistic i noe newcastle aint gon win de league)
1. Arsenal
2. Liverpool
3.Chelsea
4.Man U

Dis wot i THINK it be like

1.Chelsea
2.Man U
3.Liverpool
4.Arsenal


Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: supporter on August 27, 2006, 05:30:41 AM
Wow dey also went Blackburn and got a point ...   7 pts from 3 games is fantastic.....

y dont you hush yuh f**king mouth you assanal gunnar fag!..  1 pt from 2 games       17th in the table   can you speak ....?
at dis rate..Arsenal might not even be in contention for de Intertoto  ;D

right now arsenal go hadda settle for de intertotey
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 27, 2006, 07:41:56 AM
Newcastle 2 0 down almost half time  :'( dey hav all de possession and villa had like 2 shots...which lead to the 2 goals....bit like arsneal game yesterday..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 27, 2006, 08:28:23 AM
Martins gone off on a stretcher...i am cursed. :o >:(
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 27, 2006, 08:32:11 AM
For any who intrested..  ;D
Obafemi Martins was unveiled at the Newcastle United v Fk Ventspils match ( he jus walk around n stuff ) . Damn im happy now..if he get injured i am cursed.


YOU BLIGHT THE MAN......  ONLY YOURSELF TO BLAME LOL
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 27, 2006, 08:36:25 AM
Martins gone off on a stretcher...i am cursed. :o >:(
yeah..but what he do so far in this game?..NOUGHT!!!..steups..waste of money
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 27, 2006, 09:08:45 AM
Chelsea vs Blackburn

all ah want is goals by Lampard, Shevchenko and another Bridge cross lol
is bout time Gamst-Pedersen start doing something this season too lol..good thing ah didnt buy him at dat price lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 27, 2006, 03:19:54 PM
Chelsea vs Blackburn

all ah want is goals by Lampard, Shevchenko and another Bridge cross lol
is bout time Gamst-Pedersen start doing something this season too lol..good thing ah didnt buy him at dat price lol

Lampard n Drogba..chelsea luk gd.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on August 27, 2006, 03:22:15 PM
In the Chelsea vs Blackburn match today, I was quite impressed by a player called David Bentley....right back for Blackburn.  Excellent crossing....some of the best crosses I've seen in the English game since Beckham....have a good engine.....and his overall technique on the ball is very good.  One to look at.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 27, 2006, 03:25:45 PM
I dissapointed with newcastle performance..dey keep playing like dis..good passing, good movement..but dey jus aint scorin.. dey got good widemen with nobody to finish..i think martins wil get better but he aint doin so good  jus yet.. ( his injury aint so bad he shud be good for next game it was a " dead leg "...the man went off on a stretcher for dat? :-\) .. anyway i still gd about it coz we only a lil way in the season and de team look good ..jus need someone to finish..
chelsea look good today doe
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 27, 2006, 04:01:41 PM
In the Chelsea vs Blackburn match today, I was quite impressed by a player called David Bentley....right back for Blackburn.  Excellent crossing....some of the best crosses I've seen in the English game since Beckham....have a good engine.....and his overall technique on the ball is very good.  One to look at.

yuh just saying that cause he's ex-Assanal  ;D
Emerton was right back btw..same man who tell Bobby Robson he ent coing England to play right back lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 27, 2006, 04:44:12 PM
nah i will support my club in england....     secondly i glad i am a trini  but i lov england...   the passion is what excites me about the place....   2006 has been great in tnt... because we finnaly felt a hint of passion....

as you can tell i am passionate about the teams i like.....     

call me a waggonist if you like... but tnt is my home and if you realy know me  you no i just rite england 4 life to annoy palos....   


but let me tell you something i am not a waggonman....    anyway i will continue to support england and UTD to the upmost because i am very passionate towarsds patriotism.......and you being english should be proud of that


i done discussion now....   i'll be the bigger man and end the feud



Bruv, Same Reason I said this To You, You Don't Know Jack. My Nick Name Is ''British-Wadadlian-Nutmegger A.K.A BGN'' So I know I Who I Repping my screen name is Carib-BRITON for goodness sake. You Repping England you not from there or have roots here (So I Assume By Man Dem Response on here). That England 4 Lyfe Chant is a chant used by RACISTS, I educating you and you ent listening but you carry on and stay like them ediats, thats why I laughing at you not because I particular wanted to pop shots at you (You brought the stupidness first remember that, Mainly I was WINDIN YOU UP! ;D I believe it worked ;D)

I have no time for arguement, My girl calling me, I just come back from Panaroma and Notting Hill 2 moro and Monday for me so I want my rest.

Just to Stay On Topic, If Not Arsenal(As Im an Arsenal Supporter and must believe in my team) Liverpool for the Title.

Try evening primrose oil, it helps with the PMT ;) :rotfl:

I chant england 4 Life and I aint no racist, Patriotic yes, but not racist. You surprise me, you are quenching Small Mag's passion and you are the most passionate poster on this forum :peace:

Anyway, the also rans have all played their games today, the big boys kick off Monday night ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on August 27, 2006, 04:58:04 PM
In the Chelsea vs Blackburn match today, I was quite impressed by a player called David Bentley....right back for Blackburn.  Excellent crossing....some of the best crosses I've seen in the English game since Beckham....have a good engine.....and his overall technique on the ball is very good.  One to look at.

yuh just saying that cause he's ex-Assanal  ;D
Emerton was right back btw..same man who tell Bobby Robson he ent coing England to play right back lol

Had no idea he was once an Arsenal player.  That explains why he's such a decent player. 
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 27, 2006, 05:58:59 PM
In the Chelsea vs Blackburn match today, I was quite impressed by a player called David Bentley....right back for Blackburn.  Excellent crossing....some of the best crosses I've seen in the English game since Beckham....have a good engine.....and his overall technique on the ball is very good.  One to look at.

yuh just saying that cause he's ex-Assanal  ;D
Emerton was right back btw..same man who tell Bobby Robson he ent coing England to play right back lol

Had no idea he was once an Arsenal player.  That explains why he's such a decent player. 

Palos..whaz dah one?? ;D
lawd..yuh is ah waggonist or what?  :rotfl:
Bentley only leave Assanal year before..was on a season loan at Norwich then went to Blackburn permanently at the start of this year.
he's the man who hit the hattrick against Man U the other day too lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 27, 2006, 06:13:48 PM
In the Chelsea vs Blackburn match today, I was quite impressed by a player called David Bentley....right back for Blackburn.  Excellent crossing....some of the best crosses I've seen in the English game since Beckham....have a good engine.....and his overall technique on the ball is very good.  One to look at.

  If i'm not mistaken I think the commentators had him pegged for the Man-of-the-Match award. He played a clean, solid game. 
    Also, despite his OBVIOUS flaws, (too much semantics, sometimes, diving, etc.) I am glad to see that the Chelsea fans (at least so it appears on tv) are beginning to appreciate Drogba for what he brings to this team.  The goal he scored was a remarkable effort and if he would work on his finishing, he can easily be a perennial top scorer in this league.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: JDB on August 27, 2006, 06:53:52 PM
It easy for Palos to miss Bentley.

If he ent pay plenty money for a youth, they ent playing.

Seriously thogh Palos... Bently was in the same crop as Aliadere who was supposed to be the future of Arsenal, now is Lupoli and Walcott. We will see whwre they end up.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 27, 2006, 07:02:16 PM
It easy for Palos to miss Bentley.

If he ent pay plenty money for a youth, they ent playing.

Seriously thogh Palos... Bently was in the same crop as Aliadere who was supposed to be the future of Arsenal, now is Lupoli and Walcott. We will see whwre they end up.


Bentley is an excellent player  ....  he is really a future star


and yes he scored a hat trick against utd..... the only person to ever do it in the premier league
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: FF on August 27, 2006, 07:40:51 PM
It easy for Palos to miss Bentley.

If he ent pay plenty money for a youth, they ent playing.

Seriously thogh Palos... Bently was in the same crop as Aliadere who was supposed to be the future of Arsenal, now is Lupoli and Walcott. We will see whwre they end up.

Palos go bawl "who is Aliadiere?" ???   ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: SUPA on August 27, 2006, 08:33:34 PM
some piks

by the way  that away kit is so flikin dread  :D :D

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705490.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705452.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705729.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705246.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705236.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705171.jpg)




 ;)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/nice.jpg)

Small Mag, ah not on yuh Man U wagon, but ah must admit, they are some good soccer pics.  :beermug:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 28, 2006, 06:55:19 AM
Van Bommel Signs For Bayern......Claims he is here to replace both Ballack and Hargreaves!! ; ;) ;)


source-skysports.com
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 28, 2006, 08:12:20 AM
i Wud like it if Hargreaves went to Man u
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 28, 2006, 08:31:44 AM
i Wud like it if Hargreaves went to Man u

yeh it would help england....
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 28, 2006, 09:05:50 AM
i Wud like it if Hargreaves went to Man u

yeh it would help england....
i jus think he deserves it, he was great at de world cup and proved everyone wrong, he had said he had wanted to play in the premiership before, but now i think that people know how hardworking and what a good player he is.. he has finally thought..i can play there now
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 29, 2006, 06:33:35 AM
I'd just like to ask a question of all the Chelsea fans on here.

WERE YOU WATCHING YESTERDAY  ;D

Middlesbrough 0 - Portsmouth 4  :rotfl:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Cantona007 on August 29, 2006, 07:10:30 AM
I'd just like to ask a question of all the Chelsea fans on here.

WERE YOU WATCHING YESTERDAY  ;D

Middlesbrough 0 - Portsmouth 4  :rotfl:
Congrats, Pompey!! You all looking like a big team this year, but hopefully the momentum continues. Gotta give it to 'arry eh?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 29, 2006, 07:20:10 AM
Dis must be the worst lie the paper come up with..but still.. " Ronaldinho row  sparks alert " - They say he and Rijkaard had an argument and dat why he didnt travel to the game.. And now AC Milan and Chelsea are on Red alert.. :rotfl:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2006400073,00.html
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: dinho on August 29, 2006, 08:36:57 AM
I'd just like to ask a question of all the Chelsea fans on here.

WERE YOU WATCHING YESTERDAY  ;D

Middlesbrough 0 - Portsmouth 4  :rotfl:

impressive performance... too bad you'll fall swiftly back down to earth at stamford bridge..

if you're a real fan, why didnt you make the long monday night trip to go to the game like john portsmouth football club wilson?? (thats his name right?)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 29, 2006, 09:06:02 AM
I'd just like to ask a question of all the Chelsea fans on here.

WERE YOU WATCHING YESTERDAY  ;D

Middlesbrough 0 - Portsmouth 4  :rotfl:

impressive performance... too bad you'll fall swiftly back down to earth at stamford bridge..

if you're a real fan, why didnt you make the long monday night trip to go to the game like john portsmouth football club wilson?? (thats his name right?)

I'm in the process of moving house (Emigrating actually), so I didn't even get the chance to watch it on TV as we have cancelled our Sky subscirption :'(

mind you, 600 mile round trip or 12 hours on a train, on a Monday night, no thanks. There's being a fan and theres being mad, John PFC Westwood falls into the latter ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on August 29, 2006, 09:11:14 AM
I chant england 4 Life and I aint no racist, Patriotic yes, but not racist. You surprise me, you are quenching Small Mag's passion and you are the most passionate poster on this forum :peace:

Pompey: My experience is defo different to urs also my apologises if I've got the wrong end of the stick, my experince what I said would seem so anyway. You would be english for life if you moved the planet G-Zebo when u were 10 anyway,lol (Another reason I think the chant is silly)
I would give the crowd to most passionate support to Small Mag's, sometimes too over passionate,lol.
Moving On


I missed the Highlights but saw them yesterday before I went Carnival
Giggs Is Playing Like It's 1992, Andy Johnson's Finish was nice, Darren Bent Has got a good start hopefully he stays in the England squad, Defoe is doing jack doodoo hopefully that changes, I can't diss crouch no more which isnt fun (lol) and from last night's game its obviously Harry Redknapp's team is on drugs, just kidding  ;)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 29, 2006, 12:46:24 PM

I missed the Highlights but saw them yesterday before I went Carnival
Giggs Is Playing Like It's 1992, Andy Johnson's Finish was nice, Darren Bent Has got a good start hopefully he stays in the England squad, Defoe is doing jack doodoo hopefully that changes, I can't diss crouch no more which isnt fun (lol) and from last night's game its obviously Harry Redknapp's team is on drugs, just kidding  ;)


I'm sure there will be a drugs bust at our training ground the way we're playing :o

Spuds have just signed Mido so Defoe is further down the pecking order, about time he joined his old boss I think ;)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: supporter on August 29, 2006, 03:44:25 PM
Sol still has gas left in the tank, and getting him away from his boyfriends in london have done him good. Not a bad backline at portsmouth. Good start for them but i cant say i like em. Harry abadoning Southampton after doing the same to portsmouth, how can you root for a guy like that? plus kenwyne is a saint, so we have to hope their rivals dont do well. But im happy for you pompey  ;D
Title: Mido coming back to spurs
Post by: daryn on August 29, 2006, 05:00:49 PM
Mido returns to Spurs



Tottenham Hotspur have agreed a deal to bring Mido back to the club on a permanent deal from Roma.


MatthewLewis/GettyImages
Mido: Already had loan spell

The 23-year-old striker was at White Hart Lane last season on loan and scored 11 goals before returning to the Italian club.

Spurs boss Martin Jol had been attempting to bring the Egypt international back after his departure, and has now has Mido back to bolster an attacking line-up at White Hart Lane including Dimitar Berbatov, Jermain Defoe and Robbie Keane.

Jol said: 'We've been tracking Mido since his loan ended and we were always keen to bring him back.

'Roma took some persuading and I'm delighted to have him in the squad.

'He knows I like him as a player, his strength in the air and his mentality. It's an excellent addition to the squad and our striking options are now complete.'

The striker told official website: 'I'm very happy to be back.

'It was, and it always will be a great honour for me to play for Tottenham.

'I always knew in my heart I would be coming back. It is a fantastic move for me, I have some good friends here and it will be good to be back with the lads. I saw them training today and I'm looking forward to working with Martin and Chris (Hughton) again.

'I can't wait to pull on a Tottenham shirt, to play at the Lane and score some goals.'


original article on soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=377464&cc=5901)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Daft Trini on August 29, 2006, 07:49:47 PM
Please don't bring Ronaldhino to England, dey go break him in two.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 30, 2006, 05:22:54 AM
Please don't bring Ronaldhino to England, dey go break him in two.
....dat why he play so bad in the wc..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 30, 2006, 04:24:32 PM
Breaking News.....United Loan Rossi to Magpies....  (Jub yuh must be hapy  yuh get a boss  dere ;))          i wonder if we making room for   say...Tevez? lol    hopefully



 Newcastle United have agreed a shock loan swoop for Manchester United's young striker Giuseppe Rossi.

The Italian youth international is highly-rated at Old Trafford and had been expected to make an impact on the United first team during the coming campaign after the sale of Ruud van Nistelrooy to Real Madrid.

Indeed Ferguson refused to allow the New Jersey-born Rossi to move to West Brom as part of the deal that saw Tomasz Kuszczak join The Red Devils.

However Glenn Roeder's Magpies have now managed to convince Ferguson that Rossi's interests will be best served at St James' Park in a loan move until January.

skysports.com
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 30, 2006, 08:58:33 PM
Breaking News.....United Loan Rossi to Magpies....  (Jub yuh must be hapy  yuh get a boss  dere ;))          i wonder if we making room for   say...Tevez? lol    hopefully



 Newcastle United have agreed a shock loan swoop for Manchester United's young striker Giuseppe Rossi.

The Italian youth international is highly-rated at Old Trafford and had been expected to make an impact on the United first team during the coming campaign after the sale of Ruud van Nistelrooy to Real Madrid.

Indeed Ferguson refused to allow the New Jersey-born Rossi to move to West Brom as part of the deal that saw Tomasz Kuszczak join The Red Devils.

However Glenn Roeder's Magpies have now managed to convince Ferguson that Rossi's interests will be best served at St James' Park in a loan move until January.

skysports.com
ah woulda like to see we get Woodgate instead
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Rastaman on August 30, 2006, 09:15:57 PM
Woodgate & £6m Huth sign for Boro  
www.bbc.co.uk

Middlesbrough have completed the double signing of defenders Jonathan Woodgate and Robert Huth.
Real Madrid and England centre-half Woodgate, 26, has moved to the Riverside on a season's loan with the option of making the deal permanent.

German international Huth, 22, has signed a five-year contract after completing a £6m switch from Chelsea.

Boro boss Gareth Southgate told the club website: "This is a significant coup and a big boost."

He added: "Both players have a point to prove - and the great thing is that they want to do that with Middlesbrough. I'm absolutely delighted."

Woodgate, capped five times by England, was also a target for Newcastle as well as Bolton.

But the lure of getting his career back on track playing for his hometown club proved too strong.

The former Leeds and Newcastle defender has been plagued by injuries since moving to Spain in a £13.4m move in August 2004 and has only played 14 games for Real Madrid.

Southgate has been tracking Huth for most of the close season but the towering defender's move fell through because of an ankle injury picked up while on World Cup duty.

Huth failed a medical in July but Southgate maintained his interest and promised to monitor the situation.

 
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 31, 2006, 06:51:28 AM
Breaking News.....United Loan Rossi to Magpies....  (Jub yuh must be hapy  yuh get a boss  dere ;))          i wonder if we making room for   say...Tevez? lol    hopefully



 Newcastle United have agreed a shock loan swoop for Manchester United's young striker Giuseppe Rossi.

The Italian youth international is highly-rated at Old Trafford and had been expected to make an impact on the United first team during the coming campaign after the sale of Ruud van Nistelrooy to Real Madrid.

Indeed Ferguson refused to allow the New Jersey-born Rossi to move to West Brom as part of the deal that saw Tomasz Kuszczak join The Red Devils.

However Glenn Roeder's Magpies have now managed to convince Ferguson that Rossi's interests will be best served at St James' Park in a loan move until January.

skysports.com

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  :'( Thank you lord.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on September 09, 2006, 09:15:58 AM
not much goals so far today
just 7 so far

Arsenal losing 1-0..if that stays..they going to be bottom of the league  ;D
btw..Woodgate loking lke the boss player he was in the old days..Henry can't make a note
ah think Drogba is the new Andy Cole..scoring 1 in 20 chances lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on September 09, 2006, 10:35:44 AM
Final scores

Chelsea 2 - 1 Charlton - Drogba, Carvalho & Hasselbank [ Lampard hadda pen saved ]
Arsenal 1 - 1  Boro - Morisson, Henry - Pen
Newcastle 1 - 2 Fulham  >:( Parker, Mcbride, Bocanegra [as soon as parker go off newcastle big mess ]
Bolton 1 - 0 Watford , Speed - Pen - las minute
Liverpool 0 - Everton 3 - Cahill, Johnson x 2
Sheffield Utd 0 - 0 Blackburn rovers [ nt sure but ah think ther was 3 pens savd in this match]
Portsmouth 1 - 0 Wigan , Mwaruwari [ bullard injured ]

nd rite now..
Man U 1 - Tottenham 0 , Giggs
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on September 09, 2006, 10:37:54 AM
not much goals so far today
just 7 so far

Arsenal losing 1-0..if that stays..they going to be bottom of the league  ;D
btw..Woodgate loking lke the boss player he was in the old days..Henry can't make a note
ah think Drogba is the new Andy Cole..scoring 1 in 20 chances lol

Woodgate IS a boss player.  Always has been.  He jes injury prone to put it mildly.

He and Terry together at the heart of England defence would give them 2 TRULY World Class players in the position.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 09, 2006, 11:17:34 AM
Final scores

Chelsea 2 - 1 Charlton - Drogba, Carvalho & Hasselbank [ Lampard hadda pen saved ]
Arsenal 1 - 1  Boro - Morisson, Henry - Pen
Newcastle 1 - 2 Fulham  >:( Parker, Mcbride, Bocanegra [as soon as parker go off newcastle big mess ]
Bolton 1 - 0 Watford , Speed - Pen - las minute
Liverpool 0 - Everton 3 - Cahill, Johnson x 2
Sheffield Utd 0 - 0 Blackburn rovers [ nt sure but ah think ther was 3 pens savd in this match]
Portsmouth 1 - 0 Wigan , Mwaruwari [ bullard injured ]

nd rite now..
Man U 1 - Tottenham 0 , Giggs

Fat Man...   2 pts from 3 games lol.....   hmmmmmmmm    wa going on boy?

Utd 1   Spurs 0 HT
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on September 09, 2006, 01:12:56 PM
Palos..the only way ah see Arsenal getting into Europe next year is by the Fair Play route
so tell yuh boy and them to behave themselves this year
ah think Intertoto out ah allyuh reach now too  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 09, 2006, 02:26:08 PM
not much goals so far today
just 7 so far

Arsenal losing 1-0..if that stays..they going to be bottom of the league  ;D
btw..Woodgate loking lke the boss player he was in the old days..Henry can't make a note
ah think Drogba is the new Andy Cole..scoring 1 in 20 chances lol

Woodgate IS a boss player. Always has been. He jes injury prone to put it mildly.

He and Terry together at the heart of England defence would give them 2 TRULY World Class players in the position.

De man tackling was superb today.  he had Henry in check.  Ah eh know if Real go want to sell he if he keeps playing this way.  Than again, Capello have he own ideas.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 09, 2006, 06:00:46 PM
Ternoshaw  i see you very quiet over how ur side geh ass raped over at goodision today....


allyuh and arsenal real overrated dis season.....  4 from 3 for allyuh  and fat man squad coasting 2 from 3  lol 

AH LOVE IT...copyright A.S
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 09, 2006, 07:43:33 PM
Ternoshaw i see you very quiet over how ur side geh ass raped over at goodision today....


allyuh and arsenal real overrated dis season..... 4 from 3 for allyuh and fat man squad coasting 2 from 3 lol

AH LOVE IT...copyright A.S

Boss ah was dumbfounded when ah woke up and checked the score on the computer.  But say what, that is how derbies go.  Plus, dem fellas tired after returning from international duty.  Only Aurelio and Pennant trained at Melwood this week, everyone else was either injured or on international duty.  I think Everton capitalized on a tired team that didn't get the time to prepare for a tough opponent.  We will overcome.  Don't get carried away with yuh swift start.  There is a long way to go. ;)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Grande on September 10, 2006, 01:34:39 AM
Ternoshaw i see you very quiet over how ur side geh ass raped over at goodision today....


allyuh and arsenal real overrated dis season..... 4 from 3 for allyuh and fat man squad coasting 2 from 3 lol

AH LOVE IT...copyright A.S

Boss ah was dumbfounded when ah woke up and checked the score on the computer.  But say what, that is how derbies go.  Plus, dem fellas tired after returning from international duty.  Only Aurelio and Pennant trained at Melwood this week, everyone else was either injured or on international duty.  I think Everton capitalized on a tired team that didn't get the time to prepare for a tough opponent.  We will overcome.  Don't get carried away with yuh swift start.  There is a long way to go. ;)

how Theo Walcott get de call-up before Andy Johnson is beyond me.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: JDB on September 10, 2006, 11:16:35 AM
Boss ah was dumbfounded when ah woke up and checked the score on the computer.  But say what, that is how derbies go.  Plus, dem fellas tired after returning from international duty.   Only Aurelio and Pennant trained at Melwood this week, everyone else was either injured or on international duty.  I think Everton capitalized on a tired team that didn't get the time to prepare for a tough opponent.  We will overcome.  Don't get carried away with yuh swift start.  There is a long way to go. ;)

This is such BS.

So is only Liverpool players that play international football last week.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on September 10, 2006, 03:49:47 PM
Boss ah was dumbfounded when ah woke up and checked the score on the computer.  But say what, that is how derbies go.  Plus, dem fellas tired after returning from international duty.   Only Aurelio and Pennant trained at Melwood this week, everyone else was either injured or on international duty.  I think Everton capitalized on a tired team that didn't get the time to prepare for a tough opponent.  We will overcome.  Don't get carried away with yuh swift start.  There is a long way to go. ;)

This is such BS.

So is only Liverpool players that play international football last week.

Phil Neville was superb, best player in my opinon, and he was playin for england along with gerrard etc the other day..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on September 10, 2006, 03:59:35 PM
Ternoshaw i see you very quiet over how ur side geh ass raped over at goodision today....


allyuh and arsenal real overrated dis season..... 4 from 3 for allyuh and fat man squad coasting 2 from 3 lol

AH LOVE IT...copyright A.S

Boss ah was dumbfounded when ah woke up and checked the score on the computer.  But say what, that is how derbies go.  Plus, dem fellas tired after returning from international duty.  Only Aurelio and Pennant trained at Melwood this week, everyone else was either injured or on international duty.  I think Everton capitalized on a tired team that didn't get the time to prepare for a tough opponent.  We will overcome.  Don't get carried away with yuh swift start.  There is a long way to go. ;)

how Theo Walcott get de call-up before Andy Johnson is beyond me.

What are you talking about? Theo Walcott never got called up before Andrew Johnson, Johnson made his debut in the tour of the US in 2005.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Peong on September 30, 2006, 12:31:31 PM
Who see Van Persie's 2nd goal today?  Dat is de kinda goal daz mash up stadium yes.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Bitter on September 30, 2006, 03:01:02 PM
Who see Van Persie's 2nd goal today?  Dat is de kinda goal daz mash up stadium yes.

That was a Goal with a captial G. Wow!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on September 30, 2006, 05:20:56 PM
what a goal. that all i cud say.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 30, 2006, 07:07:17 PM
Who see Van Persie's 2nd goal today?  Dat is de kinda goal daz mash up stadium yes.

That was a Goal with a captial G. Wow!


WWWWWWWWWWWWWWicked!!! Dat is all I could say!
Title: United on Top after 2-0 win
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 01, 2006, 12:18:00 PM
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's double moved Manchester United to the top of the Premiership table on goal difference.

Sir Alex Ferguson's side were always on top and struck the woodwork four times.

Darren Fletcher hit the post early on, as did Cristiano Ronaldo just before the break, but this time Solskjaer was on hand to sidefoot past Steve Harper.

Solskjaer's second goal had an element of luck about it when Nemanja Vidic's shot richocheted off the Norwegian and past Harper early in the second half.


Ronaldo, who had a superb game, seemed to have a particular affinity with the woodwork, hitting the bar and then the post in the space of six minutes after the second goal.

Throughout the game Manchester United's attacking play was a rich mixture of individual trickery and fluid passing movements, with Ronaldo invariably involved.

Newcastle deployed five men in midfield in a bid to stifle Manchester United, but the tactic had no effect, as the home side laid siege to the visitors' goal.

Newcastle were under pressure from the start, with Harper saving from Vidic and Steven Taylor bravely blocking Rio Ferdinand's shot.

Manchester United finally went ahead just before the interval when a powerful run from Ronaldo from a short corner ended with the Portuguese winger unleashing a shot that hit the base of the post.

The ball rebounded to Solskjaer, who had the simplest of tasks to beat Harper to score for the first time at Old Trafford since April 2003.

Newcastle's tactic of deploying five men in midfield also ensured Shola Ameobi was always isolated in attack.

Just after Solskjaer's first goal James Milner did manage to make inroads into the Manchester United defence, only to undo that good work by overhitting his cross.

As a contest the game was over when Solskjaer scored his second on 49 minutes.

After a Ronaldo corner Newcastle never really cleared their lines allowing Vidic to shot.

It is debatable whether the Serbian defender's shot would have beaten Harper but the Newcastle goalkeeper was left stranded as the ball hit Solskjaer.

Just past the hour the Newcastle manager Glenn Roeder introduced Obafemi Martins to support Ameobi but by then the game had slipped too far beyond the visitors' control.

So poor were Newcastle in attack that Edwin van der Sar did not have to make a serious save until the 75th minute, when he parried an effort from Peter Ramage.

That Manchester United did not score more was down to luck and Harper's goalkeeping.

Steven Taylor was fortunate referee Mike Dean missed his deliberate handball as he tried to block a Fletcher shot in the area, while Harper did well to tip over a Paul Scholes shot.

The only downside for Manchester United in this game was the sight of the injury-plagued Gabriel Heinze limping off to be replaced by Patrice Evra in the first-half.

Man Utd: Van der Sar, Neville, Ferdinand, Vidic, Heinze (Evra 31), Fletcher, Carrick, Scholes, Ronaldo, Rooney, Solskjaer.
Subs Not Used: Kuszczak, Brown, Saha, O'Shea.

Booked: Scholes.

Goals: Solskjaer 41, 49.

Newcastle: Harper, Carr, Ramage, Moore, Taylor, Milner (N'Zogbia 45), Butt (Martins 62), Emre (Pattison 69), Parker, Duff, Ameobi.
Subs Not Used: Krul, Luque.

Booked: Parker, Carr, Taylor.

Att: 75,664

Ref: M Dean (Wirral).









United were absolutely brilliant today   .......    newcastle were very very lucky to only concede 2 today

Were Gunnar win the league!....Ole Gunnar!
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Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on October 01, 2006, 03:59:53 PM
yeh we were lucky.  ithink glen made a mistake he didnt play 2 strikers..because when ameobi got the ball it was only for a really small amount of time and he couldnt do anything with it.
man u have played better.. still think chelsea winnin it..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: che on October 01, 2006, 07:01:57 PM
Well done ManU  :applause:
Title: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 18, 2007, 11:27:30 PM
LONDON – Alexi Lalas helped humiliate English soccer 14 years ago. It looks like he's trying to do it again.
The Los Angeles Galaxy president, who scored when the United States beat England 2-0 in a friendly match in 1993, told British newspapers that Major League Soccer is on a par with the Premier League.

Irked by suggestions that David Beckham is going into semiretirement by joining the Galaxy, Lalas said the only reason the English league is popular is because of American-style marketing.
“The fact that a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business,” Lalas said in an interview with The Guardian published Tuesday.

“In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.”

Brian McBride and Clint Dempsey are among the American players in the Premier League, although they play for modest Fulham. None of the American players in England are stars of the caliber of those at teams such as Manchester United and Chelsea.

McBride – the third highest scorer in U.S. national team history with 30 goals – scored nine times last season for Fulham, which finished 16th in the Premier League. His tally was 12 short of Didier Drogba's league-high 21 for Chelsea, and the same as Wigan's Emile Heskey and Aston Villa's Gabriel Agbonlahor.

Despite criticizing the Premier League for sloganeering and over-marketing, Lalas claimed that, when he arrives, Beckham will have a higher profile in the United States than Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan.

“The U.S. will never have dealt with an athlete who has had this kind of international impact,” Lalas told The Mirror. “Tiger Woods has that international appeal but, with due respect to Woods and Michael Jordan, David Beckham is at an entirely different level.”

Lalas, a 37-year-old former United States defender, said his country's record at the past four World Cups compared favorably with that of England – England has two underwhelming quarterfinal appearances to one for the U.S. – and suggested almost all those who criticize the MLS have yet to see the league.

However, several British papers were unimpressed by the Galaxy's 3-2 win over Real Salt Lake on Sunday.

“The game was not without moments of quality ... (but) some of the defending from both sides was the type of stuff you watch through your fingers,” according to The Mirror. “It was the football equivalent of a demolition derby.

“The use of possession was alarmingly careless and the concept of marking appeared not to have found its way across the Atlantic.”

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html




Alexi Lalas, the president of LA Galaxy and the man responsible for taking David Beckham to Major League Soccer in the United States next month, has suggested that the Premiership is an "inferior product" whose global success is largely down to American marketing techniques.
"There's no accounting for bad taste," Lalas said in an exclusive interview with the Guardian. "That a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business. English football now has the haves and the have-nots. It's just that the Premiership have become so skilled in presentation. They took a page out of American football and so now they have Saturday Showdowns and Super Sundays. I love it. This is high-calibre marketing - taking an inferior product and improving it through packaging."

Lalas hit out at English criticism of football in America. "The experts in England talk about David Beckham as if he's going into semi-retirement. It's insulting to say Beckham is on his way to Hollywood when he's coming to play in one of the most competitive leagues in the world. There are a lot of stars who would struggle here.
"There's this delusion that if it's English then it's great. But a whole world exists outside of England. That's reflected in the difficulties they had when everyone ran to the Premiership. Maybe it's OK for the fan but, for the average development of the players, their game is struggling."

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2106111,00.html

The Guardian letf out the funniest part of the interview.
Lalas:
“In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.”
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: prodigy23 on June 19, 2007, 02:00:23 AM
hmmmmmmmmm.........ok.......no comment!  :devil:
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: #4 on June 19, 2007, 02:51:43 AM
Alexi Lalas' mouth deserves to be immortalized in a sports talking head hall of fame right next to Jim Rome, Mohammed Ali, Bill Walton and Jack Warner. Just like the rest of them, I'll admit that what he says may be true from time to time, but especially like the rest of them, d Man can talk some real shit!!!

you know how they say... "as my locks get longer, so does my wisdom grow...", well here is living proof, because his intelligence has obviously decreased since he did away with all that hair. ;D
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 04:50:31 AM
makes 2 very decent points.

has an axe to grind..so he uses poor wording. definitely sounds angry and that takes away from his credibility. but he is correct about the power of marketing and the EPL, and he is correct that they borrowed from the Yanks in that regard. It is a league that is not as quality (inferior) as it is marketed to be and the have nots are just not quality. In England some teams just don't even attempt to play technical football. It is hard to say that of La Liga and Serie A. Lalas is not saying the top teams are not great. He is just looking at the league as a whole and even though it exciting as he infers (it's OK for the fan), there are some teams that really come out and just hoof ball. But the EPL markets the whole league as quality..the best in the wrold. It is good for the fans but the English game is struggling. Tae a look at the current English national team. Take a look at how few youngsters are coming through the ranks compared to Spain, Italy, Germany etc..

he may be coming on strong about what he is saying about the MLS but it is more competitive than people seem to think. Too bad he exaggerates a bit, using strong words like inferior etc. cuz the underlying points have merit. I love the EPL..it is exciting because of the speed and physical nature of the game and the attitude of the players. But if I am honest..a very large group of teams don't relly come out and play at the same technical level as mid and lower level teams in other leagues I watch.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: truetrini on June 19, 2007, 05:30:57 AM
point is...he eh lying!  THE EPL is the best marketed league and it is adertied using de american model...take it or leave it.

he eh lying..de epl is not de best in de world, nor is de most excitig, it is de most hyped doh!
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Ponnoxx on June 19, 2007, 06:18:27 AM
 I was watching SkySPorts a time and a man say David Beckham going to join a Mickey Mouse League...Lalas crazy or wha...The only how players stuggling over there is during preseason or if the player is done 30 something and doh fight it again...MLS is a retirement league for Europe...No MLS team could ramp with an EPL team when they in full flight...EPL is properly marketed...Their MLS stars struggle in EPL badly...Beckham had some good years left in him and he made that decision because Real Madrid was playing stupid and not settling his contract...That was kind of a bad mind decision...he shoulda go there when he reach all 35-36 so...Who he will cross to? Landon Donavon... :rotfl: ....Beckham is a great..although he unbalanced Madrid for a while(not his fault but the club's inability to get better defenders)....Beckham on a balanced team is a deadly player...Finally everybody see how good he is.....Lalas please, hush yuh mouth and stop talking crap
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Andre on June 19, 2007, 06:51:39 AM
lalas talking some truth there:

1. EPL is the best marketed and uses the NFL model. look at how they is get some people to wake up early on a sunday morning to watch bullshit like fulham vs. wigan.

2. apart from the top, it like any other euro league. look at how the 2nd tier and below team is get knock out by fc unknowns from eastern europe in the UEFA cup.

i think he on a hype mission to stir interest in MLS though. hence the harsh words.

i done see sky sports news listing MLS standings and leading scorers on their right side.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: injunchile on June 19, 2007, 06:53:20 AM
Lalas made some good points about marketing. He forgot to mention the salaries of MLS players. Money is the bottom line. How can he justify most of the national players plying their trade overseas- especially the EPL.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2007, 07:34:47 AM
Their MLS stars struggle in EPL badly..

Not true.....

From the time an AMERICAN begins making critical comments about the EPL, yuh know such will be taken with a pound of salt on a TRINI message board because:

For some strange reason, Trinis fail to respect the U.S. acheivement in football and hence disregard any American perspective about football (pure bad mind)

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Plenty Trinis like they own shares in the EPL.... and for some reason respond very insecurely about any criticism about it...

At the end of the day, the only thing Lalas screwed up with was the word "inferior". The EPL is arguably not "inferior" to any of the major leagues in Europe- On the flip side, it is not really "Superior" either- contrary to the opinion of its fans and advocates.....why is their opinion of it so high? - Great Marketing....convincing the consumer that Pepsi for eg. is of way way better quality than the store brand (when the truth is, if you ever took a marketing class, you would know that the store brand, is often manufactured using pretty much the same ingredients and process as their premier product, but is cheaper only because yuh not paying for branding & certain patents etc.....)...Lalas hit the nail on the head, but "inferior" was a poor choice of adjective. In terms of success and quality of football, the EPL is on par with the best in the world.

His comments about the MLS were typically defensive- an understandably so...He is an American, he believes in and supports his local league and he is an advocate for it.....It have men on this board who draws is get wet when Beenie and Wim dis the PFL (a truly inferior league), and we's give them a bligh- so ease up Lalas nuh.....
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 08:02:28 AM
First off let me start by saying that Alexi Lalas is the biggest, overrated, shitsnake ever to lace up a football boots >:( . He more than anyone else should know the power of marketing an "inferior" product because he, Alexi lalas, benefitted from such marketing.

Secondly these leagues are BUSINESSES and marketing is an essential part of running a successful business. The PFL needs to learn this(I can't stress that enough). The EPL is the absolute, best at marketing itself. The EPL is far better than the MLS, where many foreign star players, past their prime, go to stud. I am a staunch defender of the EPL and an avid fan and I suggest that if one were to compare the top, middle and lower tier teams in the Prem to their counterparts in La Liga or Serie A etc the prem would probably produce better results.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 19, 2007, 08:26:53 AM
point is...he eh lying!  THE EPL is the best marketed league and it is adertied using de american model...take it or leave it.

he eh lying..de epl is not de best in de world, nor is de most excitig, it is de most hyped doh!


come on that is like the owner of a Geo Metro saying people only think the Lexus is better because they have better commercials!

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English football now has the haves and the have-nots.

Is the MLS trying to say that the EPL is made up of has been players/teams? really the MLS is making this claim!  We all know Becks was jus vex, and thought his club and country careers were over when he signed on to the Galaxy.

I know Lalas vex, but oh gosh man yuh have to come better than that.
Its not a foregone conclusion that the EPL is not the top league, Chelsea's Liverpool's and Utd's run in the CL this year give strong evidence that they are right up there with anybody else, so to claim it an inferior product is quite debatable, and not a discussion the MLS would even be invited to.


Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bianconeri on June 19, 2007, 09:05:46 AM
i hadda agree with Lalas on the point of EPL and its marketing strategies...
they have that down cooolllllllldddd!

EPL marketed in such a way that it makes u think it is the best league out there...especially now since we doh get much football here with Spanish, gErman and French football all gettin d axe cause of them chupid ppls at FLOW(i eh wanna get started on them this mornin nah!!)
steups...

but he hadda back up his product which is the MLS ya could say....they bad talkin his investment..so he gonna put up his fists and fight back...

i eh blame him in a way...he vex but say wha...
EPL aint the best anyway ya take it...maybe 3rd with italy...but since thas all we get we hadda cool it

i say Spain first of course and then Germany and italy 2nd then england and france...
the other leagues jus doh have as much financial clout as the EPL...

money talks...
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 09:08:12 AM
i hadda agree with Lalas on the point of EPL and its marketing strategies...
they have that down cooolllllllldddd!

EPL marketed in such a way that it makes u think it is the best league out there...especially now since we doh get much football here with Spanish, gErman and French football all gettin d axe cause of them chupid ppls at FLOW(i eh wanna get started on them this mornin nah!!)
steups...

but he hadda back up his product which is the MLS ya could say....they bad talkin his investment..so he gonna put up his fists and fight back...

i eh blame him in a way...he vex but say wha...
EPL aint the best anyway ya take it...maybe 3rd with italy...but since thas all we get we hadda cool it

i say Spain first of course and then Germany and italy 2nd then england and france...
the other leagues jus doh have as much financial clout as the EPL...

money talks...

steeeuuuppps  ::) that is a ridiculous statement!!
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 19, 2007, 09:11:11 AM
The drugs he on real good.  He not in reality mode.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 09:17:12 AM
Their MLS stars struggle in EPL badly..

Not true.....

From the time an AMERICAN begins making critical comments about the EPL, yuh know such will be taken with a pound of salt on a TRINI message board because:

For some strange reason, Trinis fail to respect the U.S. acheivement in football and hence disregard any American perspective about football (pure bad mind)

   
There's a lot of truth in what you write here...but I don't think you address Ponnoxx' point...MLS/American players struggle badly in England.  John Harkes had a decent career at Sheffield Wednesday, and Keller, Friedel, Hahnemann and Howard have had stellar GK careers.  Outside of Brian McBride who is an absolute stud...no other American position player has really distinguished himself.  Reyna...please.  Beasely likely won't be back with Man. City, Onweyu was supposed to be the next best thing at defender....he's out of a club right now...Bobby Convey is playing so-so ball...Bocanegra, Dempsey (Fullham) and Corey Gibbs (Charlton), DeMerit (Watford) are all up and down.  The list goes on.


Now...

That said, it's a credit to the direction in which the USSF has been going, and to MLS itself that they have so many young players with an opportunity to play in the EPL.  Contrast that with TnT...we now will have three in one fell swoop as of August.  Yet Trinis love cry down the Americans as you say.  Obviously they're doing something right.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 09:21:36 AM
point is...he eh lying!  THE EPL is the best marketed league and it is adertied using de american model...take it or leave it.

he eh lying..de epl is not de best in de world, nor is de most excitig, it is de most hyped doh!


come on that is like the owner of a Geo Metro saying people only think the Lexus is better because they have better commercials!

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English football now has the haves and the have-nots.

Is the MLS trying to say that the EPL is made up of has been players/teams? really the MLS is making this claim!  We all know Becks was jus vex, and thought his club and country careers were over when he signed on to the Galaxy.

"haves and have nots" simply mean there's a lack of competitive parity...which is spot on.  You have a cluster of rich teams near the top followed by game, but largely inferior teams in the middle...followed by a perennially moribund lot struggling at the bottom.  But this is also true of many other leagues....MLS no different.  Ask Lalas how many titles Phillip Anschultz' teams won...

That said, Lalas' claim to fame is that he signed Becks.  That and his hair (at one point).  The guy was an overrated foul-machine as a player, and he's an overrated media starlet masquerading as a GM.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 09:23:17 AM
i hadda agree with Lalas on the point of EPL and its marketing strategies...
they have that down cooolllllllldddd!

EPL marketed in such a way that it makes u think it is the best league out there...especially now since we doh get much football here with Spanish, gErman and French football all gettin d axe cause of them chupid ppls at FLOW(i eh wanna get started on them this mornin nah!!)
steups...

but he hadda back up his product which is the MLS ya could say....they bad talkin his investment..so he gonna put up his fists and fight back...

i eh blame him in a way...he vex but say wha...
EPL aint the best anyway ya take it...maybe 3rd with italy...but since thas all we get we hadda cool it

i say Spain first of course and then Germany and italy 2nd then england and france...
the other leagues jus doh have as much financial clout as the EPL...

money talks...

Nonsense.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Peong on June 19, 2007, 09:41:41 AM
EPL aint the best anyway ya take it...maybe 3rd with italy...but since thas all we get we hadda cool it

i say Spain first of course and then Germany and italy 2nd then england and france...

EPL might have to further split that 3rd place tie with Portugal.
Maybe get pushed down to 4th.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: grskywalker on June 19, 2007, 10:25:57 AM
This coming from the first and last American to play in Italy (dropped on account of being shitty) :rotfl: He would have never made it in the EPL. Marketing aside the MLS standard sucks, shelling out big buck for 17 yr FREDDIE ADU WHO? Bringing in retiring players does not raise the standard of the MLS, it is used only as a means to sell tickets.

When you come down right to it the EPL is about the high level of professional football on that field, and that LALAS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 10:31:50 AM
EPL aint the best anyway ya take it...maybe 3rd with italy...but since thas all we get we hadda cool it

i say Spain first of course and then Germany and italy 2nd then england and france...

EPL might have to further split that 3rd place tie with Portugal.
Maybe get pushed down to 4th
.

Like Miami men have first dibbs on all de good weed coming into de US from JA and dem places boy ::)
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: capodetutticapi on June 19, 2007, 10:38:38 AM
so why spend so much money on beckham,did he not acquire his skills from someting inferior.i tink that lalas should invite any epl team to play his galaxy.see what happens.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 10:51:09 AM
This coming from the first and last American to play in Italy (dropped on account of being shitty) :rotfl: He would have never made it in the EPL. Marketing aside the MLS standard sucks, shelling out big buck for 17 yr FREDDIE ADU WHO?

Locking up Freddy was a good bet on the part of MLS...obviously the man showed enough potential for Inter to want to throw 3/4 mil at him at age 12, and marketable enough that Nike also locked him up to a long-term deal.  MLS locked him up two years later when his star was still shining high in the sky.  He was exactly what the league needed, young (to appeal to the US sport's growth base), remarkably poised, confident and articulate for his age (marketable), and American (what better way to market the game to young Americans...specifically teens who will badger their suburban parents to take them to the games).

 Bringing in retiring players does not raise the standard of the MLS, it is used only as a means to sell tickets.

When you come down right to it the EPL is about the high level of professional football on that field, and that LALAS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT


Uhmmm, excuse me perfesser...but isn't "sell[ing] tickets" what marketing is all about?  Selling the brand too of course...but you just unwittingly conceded that they're employing sound marketing.  Unfortunately the public has been slow to buy it...but the tide seems to be turning.

As ah man who grow up watching "FA Cup" and "Road To Wembley" every Sunday...I'm one of the biggest proponents of the EPL and would rate it above both Serie A and La Liga...but the lack of parity, or should I say the DISparity in the league kinda undermines that argument.  That said, in our haste to attack the red-headed idiots, let's not get too carried away and start making our own selves sound too much like that babbling retard.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Ponnoxx on June 19, 2007, 11:03:51 AM
It had a list or something on this forum a time...Anyhow...Toppa...MLS seperating itself from PFL in my book because of fitness and a better marketing plan(understandable)...The skill of the league that distinguishable in my opinion...If you look at the Mexican league or the Argentine league you could see that all the players are at a higher level...I get vex when Beenie and Wim bad talk the PFL because , I mean what they expect ...PFL big issue is to get people out their houses to go to games....Generally Trinbagonians very polar and (this is not a word eh what the hell) waggonistical that they don't support anything until other people take notice...America has made tremendous strides in football but they remain stagnant for all the progress they gained...I say this simply because Football from top to bottom is the same...Good basic Football...I mean you can't ask for anything more but I think that is the reason why they are not respected as much...You go to MLS, USL, PDL and Super-Y and they all play alike....Just who more athletic makes it to the top...This is a good thing because it shows that all American players  on a decent technical level...Until you see an American player born in AMerica with American grandparents hitting man body dancie-like fakes, cheeky shots, no look pass, executing serious control  and even just beating for the hell of it, They will never be respected....Well I guess you could say unless you see PFL players develop the kind of fitness needed at the highest level they will never be respected either...which is true....Football is cultural....We too lazy to emphasize superior fitness and them to methodical to step out the square that they are in...Technique and Athleticism alone can't win World Cups...African players grow up with less resources than our players but they are not lazy and push their athletic potential to the max....Why you think Foreign clubs does take our players? Cheap, something different because a man with good technique could always be found(think about it), and does usually look athletic(not always the case)...They does think if they get the player fit enough...with his skill he would be a big player and plus he cheap....We players lazy and don't usually push themselves....Football is cultural...tell a Trini reach 1'oclock and he reaching 15 minutes pass....Go T&T
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: royal on June 19, 2007, 11:06:09 AM
Mailbag: Is MLS really as good as the EPL?


Bigger than MJ and Tiger?Alexi Lalas has always been known for using his head, whether clearing balls out of danger on defense or using it as a canvas for the goatee and long hair that made him a marketing success, but some people may start to wonder if the Los Angeles Galaxy president took a few too many knocks to the noggin after he claimed the talent in MLS "wouldn't miss a beat" if placed in England's famed Premier League.
Lalas made his comments in response to opinion coming out of Europe, and especially David Beckham's native land, that the England international and recent Real Madrid star is heading to the United States to enjoy a glorified retirement tour with the Galaxy. For the coup de grace, Lalas added that Beckham will have a higher profile in the United States than the likes of Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods.

So what's your take, SportsNation? Is Lalas crazy? Will Beckham be the biggest celebrity in American sports? And has MLS really improved to the point that it's at least comparable with some of the best soccer Europe has to offer? We'll post selected responses.


VOTE: How would the best MLS team fare in England?


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Ryan (Solon, OH): Alexi Lalas is going to kill American soccer. I've lived in America my entire life. I watch the EPL, along with the leagues in Italy, Spain, and Germany ... to compare the MLS to the EPL is like saying there is no difference between college and pro BASEBALL. The best MLS teams MIGHT be able to get by in the Championship over in England, but in the EPL they'd be in the bottom 5 easily. The MLS is starting to get better, but people like Lalas are going to keep it as a joke.


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Ben (Oklahoma City): Are you kidding me? Let's not kid ourselves. This is like saying the European basketball league is on par with the NBA. It just isn't. The soccer clubs in Europe have been around since before the Red Sox were playing the Yankees. I think the MLS has enormous potential, but if you think the MLS cup is anything like the UEFA Champions League, then you are clearly deluding yourself.


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Josh (Santa Clara): I think that MLS teams could compete in the Premier League. They certainly wouldn't be on par with teams like Chelsea, Man U, Liverpool or Arsenal. But I could see them beating West Ham or Fulham. The way Newcastle's been playing, FC Dallas might be able to take them. Unfortunately, Beckham won't be the biggest celebrity in American sports IN the U.S. He might be the biggest American sports celebrity outside the U.S. Perhaps unfairly, the MLS lacks credibility; they need to sign a few guys like Fowler and Zidane who can give the league some instant credibility in terms of talent. Getting the most marketable player in the world--although does things for popularity of the sport, which is huge, does not do anything for perceived credibility.


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Matt (Avon): Alexi Lalas has always been a huge proponent for American soccer and he?s also been known to say stupid things. This is one of those stupid things. The quality of the MLS is increasing drastically as can be seen with teams like Kansas City not really hurting horribly from the loss of a player such as Eddie Johnson and his amazing hot streak. While you hear players like Juan Pablo Angel be surprised at the quality of football we play here in America. But we are not on par with EPL it just isn't the fact yet. Beckham is the biggest global celebrity there is. Micheal Jordan gives him a run but I think Beckham wins out whether its people loving him or hating him he is known everywhere. But He won't be the Biggest Sports Celebrity in the US. Soccer is still a 2nd or 3rd tier sport to most of the American public. So even the greatest celebrity in the world probably won't be the #1 name just do to the access to the sport. Lalas is speaking out for his love of the American game and out of frustration from all those people claiming Beckham is to good to go to America. He may have gone a little to far but his point is Beckham won't be wasting his talents coming here and that is true.


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Ken (NYC): The existence of this 'forum' is proof that Lalas got exactly what he wanted, publicity. My advice is to ignore him and perhaps he'll go away.


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Rob (New York): You can not even say that MLS is even close to the EPL. A MLS all-star team could probably not even beat a mid-level team like Everton or Tottenham. If Cristiano Ronaldo played in the MLS he would score 100 goals. The real test for MLS teams is to play in the Champions League or UEFA tournaments to see how they far against the best football clubs in the world. EPL is equal to the Major League Baseball. MLS is equal to Double A Minor League Baseball.


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JD (Washington DC): I'm all for supporting the US and the MLS, but Alexi Lalas has no clue what he's talking about. He's just trying to hype up the MLS and Beck's move. In reality, if ANY MLS team had to play a typical schedule of an EPL team, they'd be dead by week 10. FA Cup, EPL League, possibly a CL or UEFA Cup game.... Please. The best team in the MLS can't compare with a good EPL team. A bottom dweller, maybe. But even then ... those lads are way more physical than ours.


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Glen (Aurora): Not a chance, not even close. The Premiership is FAR superior to MLS. I'd probably put MLS on par with League One in England, with a couple of the top teams maybe in the Championship. I think Alexi has taken one to may crosses off the noggin here.


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Mike (San Diego): Some of the best MLS players could compete in the EPL, but not a lot of them. The EPL is much much better than the MLS. However, Lalas might have something right about Beckham, he is already a world-wide figure, and his popularity in the US (the world's largest celebrity market) will continue to grow.


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Jon (Darien, CT): David Beckham in no way will ever compare to Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan in terms of profile and international impact. He is a washed up, ever-overrated player who will garner some hype for a short period of time upon arrival. The largest spotlight on Beckham will undoubtedly come in form of a reality TV show of he and his wife on E! before the ratings force it to be shelved and he is benched on another team soccer team.


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Mike (New York): Lalas is a little delusional here. The best MLS teams could handle the bottom half of the Premiership, but would have great difficulty with the top half. Look no further than Juan Pablo Angel scoring at will in MLS while being benched at Aston Villa.


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Chicago: Lalas isn't far off. There is no doubt that world class clubs such as ManU, Chelsea, and Arsenal are far ahead of any team in the MLS. However, there is not only a big gap at the top of the premier league (can anyone remember the last time Wigan won the Premiership?) but also, these three are far ahead of most teams anywhere in the world. When examining the overall composite of MLS teams to the entire composite of Premier League teams, including teams like Newcastle, Boro, Charlton, and Pompey, the MLS is about as good as the EPL. The MLS needs to take a lesson from the EPL, and allow promotion and relegation, as well as to do away with salary caps. Don't restrict the money coming in; at least wait until you have it to restrict it.


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Manuel (Houston): I keep up with all of the European soccer leagues and the MLS, and I would have to say that the MLS cannot even come close to compare with the Premier League. Watching the MLS is frustrating because of how bad the players are and how sorry their inability to execute simple tactics is. Sometimes the games get so frustrating that I flat-out change the channel because I'm yelling at the television because of the dumb mistakes they make all the time and how they never shoot from outside of the penalty box. Almost all of the goals are either headers or really close to the goal. They pass it too much inside of the penalty area. If you are that close you have to shoot!


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Matthew (Peoria, IL): Hey, his point is that the English media are the joke, not the MLS. They all puff their chests about how good the EPL is and how good England is, but England hasn't done much better than the U.S. over the past 20 years of soccer on the International Level. EPL has 4 good teams, the rest are just average, that?s what he's saying. Better Competition Top to Bottom in MLS.


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Mark (Cincinnati): "Lalas added that Beckham will have a higher profile in the United States than the likes of Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods." This is the one that made me spit my drink on the monitor. A sport has to be relatively popular before a star of Tiger or MJ's caliber can then elevate it to greatness. Beckham playing for the galaxy will be grabbing all the headlines on page 8 of the sports section.


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Daniel (Cincinnati): Lalas has no business comparing David Beckham to Tiger Woods. The individual achievements of these two legends far outweigh any collection of accomplishments by David Beckham. David Beckham is a worldwide superstar and may be just as popular as those two icons, but he never transformed his profession the way that Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan have done for their respective sports. If we want to compare a Futbol player, let?s talk about the likes of Pele, not a spice girl.


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mehul (Dallas, TX): David Beckham will clearly be the best player in the MLS and is paving the way for many other internationals as a viable option for a league to play in. With that said, the English Premier League is on a class of its own, where the world's best go to play. Alexi's comments are the equivalent of saying European basketball leagues are on par with the NBA. There is a reason why Dirk Nowitzki and Tony Parker play in the NBA, because it is the best league in the world. There is a reason why America's best soccer players including Clint Dempsey, Tim Howard, Demarcus Beasley, Brian McBride, and others try to make it in the EPL. Alexi Lalas is simply trying to make a shocking comment to seek more attention for his club. Beckham has come to the U.S. because of the Hollywood lifestyle and because he is not the same player he once was. Although he can still strike the ball on corners and free kicks better than anyone, he is not the great all around player that many perceive him to be. He will be a huge attraction for soccer in the U.S., but Alexi Lalas is clearly way off on this one.


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Franco (Miami): Lalas, may be trying to help Beckham keep his place in the national team and also refusing Real Madrid the ability buy out the contract of Becks. But he's insane. The EPL is much stronger, the MLS is more comparable to the Scottish one.


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Steve (NYC): Juan Pablo Angel has a MLS record 9 goals in his first 7 games. This is a guy who was on the Aston Villa reserve side at the end of his EPL league. I wonder if all the people that are working their butts off to grow the league just cringe everytime this idiot opens his mouth.


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Jose (Wallingford): Michael Jordan 6 Time NBA Champion & Finals MVP 5 Time NBA MVP 2 Gold Medals NCAA National Champion Winner of the Naismith and Wooden Awards. Tiger Woods 12 Majors (second all time) David Beckham Married to a Spice Girl.


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Luis (Washington, DC): Anyone who thinks Tiger Woods has a greater international profile than David Beckham has no clue what they're talking about and should just be ignored. Beckham, and other international stars like Ronaldinho, are on another stratosphere compared to US sports stars. I do agree that Beckham won't be the biggest star in the US from an American perspective. As for Lalas, he is an idiot. I think a top MLS side, plus some added depth (the biggest shortcoming in MLS right now) could survive in the EPL, but would be near the bottom of the table. MLS compares very favorably to the Championship.


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Toby (Baltimore): How many MLS players have moved to the EPL and achieved even a modest level of success? Three or four? The fact that EPL teams aren't scouring the MLS for young talent, and the fact that the MLS is scouring the EPL and other Euro leagues for old talent speaks volumes. MLS players lack the class, pace, and talent of their counterparts in Europe. It's not a knock on them, but rather a testament to the superiority of the EPL. Lalas is the PT Barnum of the MLS and I commend his efforts. However, a dumb statement made with best intentions is still a dumb statement.


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Ben (Dener): Lalas' comparison of the two national teams is in disregard of so many other factors. USA has an incredibly easy route to the World Cup every fourth year, competing against teams like Guatemala and Canada. Qualifying in Europe is far more grueling and the top English players often play 70-80 games in a World Cup year. Half of the team is either hurt or physically drained. Also, England don't lose to teams like Iran in the World Cup. USA got to the quarterfinals once after playing a very favorable schedule. Let's not put them up there with England just yet.


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Kyle (Chicago): If the MLS could compete w/ the EPL than why are the best American players overseas? Not only the EPL, but the leagues in Spain, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, etc. are superior to the MLS in talent and quality of play. The challenge for the MLS is to keep the best American players here, but personally I'd rather see our MNT players in England and throughout Europe playing in an international environment against better competition. The more Americans playing in Europe, the better our national team will be.


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Mike (Virginia): First off I think most everyone on this board who are saying that MLS teams could not compete the EPL are Delusional. I don?t agree with Alexi, not every MLS team could compete in Europe (Columbus Crew for example) But I certainly do believe that teams like N.Y. RedBulls, DC United and a few others would do very well over there. Man U, Chelsea, whoever, doesn?t matter, we can beat them on any given day. You saw Chelsea barely beat DC United when they came on their American tour. So people open your eyes American soccer and the MLS are on par and we are no longer the underdogs we can beat anyone in the world period.....and I?m not even an American.


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Johnathan(New York): Lalas isn't far off the mark. Obviously MLS teams don't compare to the premier league giants, but it isn't a stretch to say they are close to a lot of the table.


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Mark (Chicago): The EPL may be a bit overrated for the bottom 10, but that certainly does not mean that MLS is on par with the EPL. There might be one or two MLS teams every year that would survive EPL relegation (which puts me amongst the kindest poster on this thread), but none of those squads would ever compete for Europe. The standard is far better than most give credit for (ask the players and coaches who have played in both leagues or Chelsea who was downed by an MLS All-star squad that never played together before) and the league is more competitive as far as being less black and white between the haves and have nots, but Lalas rambling speech is nothing more than headline grabbing. His comment about the helicopter is accurate, but a far greater percentage of EPL players could handle MLS than vice versa! Lalas? most accurate comments involved the evolving global nature of club football, which in time will lead to a cross-continental Champions League. While the EPL teams to play a ton of games, it is not uncommon for top MLS sides to add up to 15 more games to their slate a season between US Open Cup, MLS Cup Playoffs, CONCACAF Champions League, and friendlies of all kinds versus European and A-league squads.


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Daniel (New York): I think Lalas is a brilliant marketing guru. This should spark some interest in the MLS at a crucial time of growth for the league. Outlandish - Yes, but his comments will definitely make some people watch. We are embarking upon a remarkable time in world football where parity will reign supreme.


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Bill (Boston,MA): Lalas is incredibly far off in comparing the quality of play in the MLS to that of the EPL. While the MLS has clearly improved recently, there is NO way that any team in the MLS could stay in the Premiership. However, if the MLS continues to improve at the rate it is, there is a chance that some of the teams could reach a level to compete in the Premiership in a few years. While a player the quality of Beckham certainly improves the image of the MLS, this announcement is incredibly premature, and insults many of the teams in the Premiership.


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Nate (Santa Barbara): Why is anybody listening to Alexi? Anyone who knows anything about soccer in this country knows he's the "Don King of US Soccer." He runs his mouth cause he's smart and wants to keep the attention on his sport. Good talk or bad talk, he just wants you talking about MLS.


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Clifton (Washington, DC): I somewhat agree with most of the posts here that Lalas is overstating the quality of soccer in the MLS compared to the EPL. However, I feel that is just what the MLS needs to boost the value. If comments by Lalas keep appearing on the main page of ESPN, maybe your typical fan will start to listen and check out a game. I think this league has come very far since its inception after the 1994 World Cup and will only continue to grow. I don't know if Beckham will be bigger than Tiger or Jordan, but his face will be MLS Soccer for the next 5 years. If he comes over and is successful in the MLS, I think this is the snowball that turns the MLS into an avalanche of popularity. At the games he plays in, he will sell out most stadiums. Getting the new fans to the game will exponentially increase, and that is how you grow a sport the quickest. While some may disagree that soccer will never be as popular as baseball or football in America, I think twenty years down the road they will be biting their tongue. Soccer will take over those sports when the money is there in the MLS to compete with the big sports. That is when America's best athletes will lace up the soccer cleats rather than baseball or football shoes, and Americans will dominate Soccer on an international level just as they dominate every other sport that pays well. Beckham is going revolutionize American soccer. Just you wait and see.


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Bort (Liverpool): I think that if Lalas means that a good MLS team would hold their own in the EPL as a whole I think he is correct. If he means that a good MLS team is as good as the top 4 EPL teams or would beat them I think he is crazy. However, after the top 4 or so teams there is a huge dropoff in quality in the EPL and there are MLS teams who are as good or better than the weak EPL teams.


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David (Cleveland): I have to agree that the Lalas isn't being too wild in his comparison of MLS and EPL. Look at some of the basement teams in the EPL, they are filled with the same retreads and slobs that are in the MLS. Now I don't think that Lalas was really comparing any American club to ManU or Arsenal, but we need to remember that those are world wide teams that have a fan base larger than the population of England. It?s just like comparing some of the MLB cellar dwellers to a top team in Japan, not far off/


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Alex (Los Angeles): Why does Alexi Lalas have to say such a ridiculous thing just when the US was starting to gain momentum for the Beckham coming? Unfortunately, Lalas has no credibility as his Galaxy is struggling in the table right now. It's a shame Beckham will have to put this issue right next time he speaks to the media. Although Beckham is extremely popular at the moment, I don't think it overrides Jordan's popularity while he was playing his career. Hopefully Lalas thinks before he speaks next time.


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Matt (NYC): The English national team and U.S. national team have very little to do with the competition level of the MLS and EPL. The fact that the majority of the best players in the world play in either La Liga, Seria A, or the EPL shows that these are the elite leagues in the world. The Bundasliga is also top flight. Yes, there are the big four in the EPL, (Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal) but even Everton, Spurs, Pompey, or Newcastle, would wipe the floor with the best teams in the MLS. These players are playing 40-60 games over a 10 month season. The MLS elite players are average players in the EPL and stars in the MLS. If Chelsea can win all but three or four game in the EPL, They would run off amazing streaks in the MLS. The highest paid American in the MLS is Donovan who makes just around $1 million. Meanwhile, Ronaldo on MAN U is banking 10-15 times that. That is elite. The sport is huge there which is why ratings and support is huge, which creates need for top flight competition. The MLS doesn't have any of those things the way the EPL has them. One day, maybe the MLS will be the 5th or 6th most popular sport but it will never compete with the EPL.


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Kyle (Boston): April 24 MLS Columbus vs Los Angeles: 5,424 Attendance May 19 EPL Manchester United vs Chelsea: 89,826 Attendance Sure, MLS is on par.


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Logan: I understand why Lalas reacted the way he did, however inaccurate his assertions may be. As a huge Liverpool supporter, I watch a lot of EPL games. MLS, while it has improved, is simply not on par technically. Possession is inconsistent and, I must agree, the defending largely suspect. I would say it is on par with the Championship League in England, with maybe one or two teams able to compete in the bottom half of the EPL.


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James (Austin, TX): I have to agree somewhat with what Alexi actually said, that MLS players could move to the EPL and fit right in. Of course an entire MLS team would have trouble not being relegated if they were to move into the EPL, but I don't think our better teams (Houston, New England) would necessarily be automatic drops; I think they could hang with the Charltons, Watfords, West Hams of the EPL. Just look at how easily Dempsey has begun to make his mark for Fulham. After he was able to crack the line up for some playing time, it took about 4 games for Fulham fans to start wanting to see him in the starting XI.


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Toronto: I can't believe what i've read on some of the responses. Exhibition games are completely pointless for crying out loud, these European teams come out for show and not compete, this is their off season so why should they really care if they win or not? The MLS is far from being the same level with the EPL. I grew up in Singapore being an Aston Villa fan and i'm happy for Angel to be doing well for New York. But go figure, a lot of these former European guys were not that great in Europe and now excel because the pace is far more slower than that of the EPL. To think a MLS team could compete in the EPL is a total misunderstanding of the game. Yes maybe one of these teams can beat an EPL team once out of 10 tries. But there isn't any team in MLS that can actually compete for a Champs League or UEFA Cup spot. I suggest a lot of these posters and viewers who think the MLS is on par need to review their comment and situation, its like saying College Basketball teams can play with the NBA teams. There is a huge gap in terms of skills, natural talent and coaching.


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Troy (Denver): Does this latest Lalas incident and the attitude of the English press perhaps hint at another issue here... the English's deep-seeded prejudice and disdain for the idea that American soccer might actually be capable of producing some exceptional talent? Clearly, at this point, MLS's overall quality just doesn't compare with the Premier League's. It doesn't come close to the Premier League's popularity, spending power and ability to develop young players. It is making strides, however, and I wonder if the English press will ever be able to admit that. Not sure Lalas is the best spokesman for American soccer, but kudos to him for sticking up for it.


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Peter (Pittsburgh PA): To compare the FA Cup Final attendance to a regular season match is flat out ridiculous. Lalas was trying to make a point that outside of the top 4 teams, the EPL is not that great and the MLS teams could compete. MLS will never be on par with the big leagues of Europe, but the quality is getting to the point where they can compete.


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Eric (West Deptford, NJ): In regard to Mark's comment about Lalas being wrong about Beckham being bigger than Woods and Jordan, I must say you did not understand what Lalas was saying. You are comparing the three at the U.S. level, while Lalas is talking about internationally. And internationally Beckham is regarded right up there if not above those two. As far as the MLS, while it is gaining ground it is not yet up there with the EPL.


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Jeff (Macon, GA): What's even more delusional is the comments made by the idiots who believe the 300 million Americans are the only people on the planet. The other 5.7 billion people slobber all over photos of David Beckham. Also, anyone who thinks golf is a sport, is an idiot. If you want to talk overrated, let's talk Tiger Woods. The guy is on the same par as a player who won 12 majors on the pro bowling tour. Is David Beckham equal or better than Michael Jordan? Nope. Will he add something to the game that will make it better than before. Yep. And that's how he is equal to Jordan. The American soccer game will be better because of him. As for MLS being on par with the EPL, this emphasizes the need for mandatory drug testing in MLS.


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Junior (Temecula): Lalas is totally ignoring the fact that MLS teams have trouble beating Mexican clubs in the CONCACAF Champion's Cup. Before he starts comparing the MLS with the EPL, the MLS needs to start playing in the Copa Libertadores (Sth America's version of the UEFA Champion's League). See if they can handle the level that the Argentine & Brazilian clubs play. I doubt it. Mexican clubs consistently perform well in that tournament and they're not anywhere on level with clubs from England, Italy, or Spain. There's no comparison between MLS and Europe. MLS is the minor leagues...nothing more, nothing less.


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Dave (Edmonton, Alberta): That?s like saying the CFL is on par with the NFL. The MLS is attracting players at the end of their careers; which is why you hear many European/South American stars saying they would like to finish their career in the MLS. Ronaldo has said he would like to do so as has a few other aging stars.


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Johannes(Greenville, SC): People who say that the MLS is on par with the EPL need to travel across the pond and actually attend an EPL game. This has to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard. I lived in Germany for 19 years and I would not even think of saying that the German Bundesliga is on par with the EPL. Come on now people lets keep it real here. The MLS is a minor league compared to the EPL. Let me know when the MLS has an average attendance of 60,000 and not 6,000. This should not even be a discussion


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Mike (Houston): I'm an MLS and Houston Dynamo fan from Texas. I also lived in London and had a Chelsea season ticket for 3 years from 2002-2005. I also spent 6 months in Vienna and watched a good bit of bad Austrian Soccer. I think the MLS could put its top in the Champions league, lose but score in the qualifying round, go to the UEFA, win a game or two in the group stages but likely not get past them. This makes about as good as the Austrian league, the Hungarian league, the Bulgarian league... you get the idea. Our best would challenge for the a top 15 spot in the Premiereship. Our second best gets relegated.


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Joseph (Los Angles, CA): I grew up in Spain and have friends from there who visit from time to time. We'll watch an MLS match and they'll actually giggle if not laugh outright at some of the defending and passing! The EPL league is greatly over-rated here in the US, but it still stands that the best MLS team would be one of the worst in the Premier League. (In the same way that Man U, Chelsea or Arsenal would hardly make the UEFA places in the Spanish league.)


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Is this a marketing ploy by Lalas ? because it is getting a lot of airplay
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: RGarcia on June 19, 2007, 11:13:33 AM
First off let me start by saying that Alexi Lalas is the biggest, overrated, shitsnake ever to lace up a football boots >:( . He more than anyone else should know the power of marketing an "inferior" product because he, Alexi lalas, benefitted from such marketing.

I second yuh too that... Lalas could not kick a ball with a srting tied on to it. thats does not make him a bad person in making decions on football. But sometime he is talk some shitt that i do not knwo if he does realize what he saying until he done F%(kin talking.... another one is Eric Wynalda that does talk some mess too 

Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: grskywalker on June 19, 2007, 11:30:13 AM
This coming from the first and last American to play in Italy (dropped on account of being shitty) :rotfl: He would have never made it in the EPL. Marketing aside the MLS standard sucks, shelling out big buck for 17 yr FREDDIE ADU WHO?

Locking up Freddy was a good bet on the part of MLS...obviously the man showed enough potential for Inter to want to throw 3/4 mil at him at age 12, and marketable enough that Nike also locked him up to a long-term deal.  MLS locked him up two years later when his star was still shining high in the sky.  He was exactly what the league needed, young (to appeal to the US sport's growth base), remarkably poised, confident and articulate for his age (marketable), and American (what better way to market the game to young Americans...specifically teens who will badger their suburban parents to take them to the games).

 Bringing in retiring players does not raise the standard of the MLS, it is used only as a means to sell tickets.

When you come down right to it the EPL is about the high level of professional football on that field, and that LALAS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT


Uhmmm, excuse me perfesser...but isn't "sell[ing] tickets" what marketing is all about?  Selling the brand too of course...but you just unwittingly conceded that they're employing sound marketing.  Unfortunately the public has been slow to buy it...but the tide seems to be turning.

As ah man who grow up watching "FA Cup" and "Road To Wembley" every Sunday...I'm one of the biggest proponents of the EPL and would rate it above both Serie A and La Liga...but the lack of parity, or should I say the DISparity in the league kinda undermines that argument.  That said, in our haste to attack the red-headed idiots, let's not get too carried away and start making our own selves sound too much like that babbling retard.

Way boy BAKE, YUH ON MEH CASE TODAY BOY! Question? When last did Freddy make the news since the season start? Where is he anyway?. At least in the EPL they wait till you have accomplished on the field before throwing out the big bucks.
Again my point is the quality of the product being sold/marketed, you remember them teams in England were born out of the communities they represented, not by any big shot company. Back in the day when liverpool and them use to come out it was just the red jersey and red pants and the number on the back and club crest no visible sponsors and the stadiums packed to capacity. They came to see good competitive football, now fast foward to MLS and it is clear everything else is in place and the football is mediocre.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 19, 2007, 11:41:26 AM
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Rob (New York): You can not even say that MLS is even close to the EPL. A MLS all-star team could probably not even beat a mid-level team like Everton or Tottenham. If Cristiano Ronaldo played in the MLS he would score 100 goals. The real test for MLS teams is to play in the Champions League or UEFA tournaments to see how they far against the best football clubs in the world. EPL is equal to the Major League Baseball. MLS is equal to Double A Minor League Baseball.

Lalas dam fast and out of place, and by his own logic the EPL is beating the MLS at their own marketing game if their product is so inferior.
You dont have much going for yourself if the only way to make yourself look better, is to bad talk the other guy.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 11:47:16 AM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Tongue on June 19, 2007, 11:49:31 AM
this article is being discussed here http://worldsoccerdaily.myownsiteonline.com/ and Lalas is going to be on to address some of what he tork bout.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 19, 2007, 11:51:27 AM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

This may be true that was not holding up the MLS to the EPL, but my point as a representative of the MLS he is the last person to talk.
Leave them kinda aruguments for men from Spain and Italy.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: grskywalker on June 19, 2007, 11:57:31 AM
I don't think Beckham would appreciate LALASS  saying his EPL is inferior
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 12:26:45 PM

Way boy BAKE, YUH ON MEH CASE TODAY BOY!

Nah fella...it ent that serious and no offense, bu you ent dat important, lol.  I actually posted this waayy before I read yuh post in de other thread...the two are independent of each other.

Question? When last did Freddy make the news since the season start? Where is he anyway?. At least in the EPL they wait till you have accomplished on the field before throwing out the big bucks.

Yeah because the EPL already has marketable stars and don't really have to worry about young talent being poached away overseas...because they have plenty.  Also the EPL has a much better way of guaging talent than MLS...via the Coca Cola League, Division One etc.   

Again my point is the quality of the product being sold/marketed, you remember them teams in England were born out of the communities they represented, not by any big shot company. Back in the day when liverpool and them use to come out it was just the red jersey and red pants and the number on the back and club crest no visible sponsors and the stadiums packed to capacity. They came to see good competitive football, now fast foward to MLS and it is clear everything else is in place and the football is mediocre.

My argument has never been about the quality of the game...my arguments are specific to your assault on MLS for paying Freddy something arung $1M to keep him here.  Americans aren't going to rally around a marketing campaign based on a foreigner (David Beckham being the exception)...so that is why the deal to lock up Freddy was smart.  It didn't pan out the way anybody hoped...but hindsight is always 20/20...doesn't mean that they were silly for signing him...unless you claim to know more than the good marketing folks at Nike and Inter Milan as well.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 12:28:35 PM
Some very good comments from whatever that forum is that Royal post...but these two really stand out in my mind:

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Steve (NYC): Juan Pablo Angel has a MLS record 9 goals in his first 7 games. This is a guy who was on the Aston Villa reserve side at the end of his EPL league. I wonder if all the people that are working their butts off to grow the league just cringe everytime this idiot opens his mouth.


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Toby (Baltimore): How many MLS players have moved to the EPL and achieved even a modest level of success? Three or four? The fact that EPL teams aren't scouring the MLS for young talent, and the fact that the MLS is scouring the EPL and other Euro leagues for old talent speaks volumes. MLS players lack the class, pace, and talent of their counterparts in Europe. It's not a knock on them, but rather a testament to the superiority of the EPL. Lalas is the PT Barnum of the MLS and I commend his efforts. However, a dumb statement made with best intentions is still a dumb statement.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 12:31:35 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop
I know he ent schupid enough to compare MLS to the EPL...but he did say that it is an inferior product...not 'disappointing'...inferior.

The question then becomes...inferior compared to what?
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Tongue on June 19, 2007, 12:31:55 PM
Lalas was a no show on the program..hmmmmmm ah wonda why....but Ray Hudson(sp) will be on tomorrow.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: ribbit on June 19, 2007, 12:35:20 PM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 19, 2007, 12:38:26 PM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".

 ???  ???
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2007, 12:58:21 PM
Their MLS stars struggle in EPL badly..

Not true.....

From the time an AMERICAN begins making critical comments about the EPL, yuh know such will be taken with a pound of salt on a TRINI message board because:

For some strange reason, Trinis fail to respect the U.S. acheivement in football and hence disregard any American perspective about football (pure bad mind)

   
There's a lot of truth in what you write here...but I don't think you address Ponnoxx' point...MLS/American players struggle badly in England.  John Harkes had a decent career at Sheffield Wednesday, and Keller, Friedel, Hahnemann and Howard have had stellar GK careers.  Outside of Brian McBride who is an absolute stud...no other American position player has really distinguished himself.  Reyna...please.  Beasely likely won't be back with Man. City, Onweyu was supposed to be the next best thing at defender....he's out of a club right now...Bobby Convey is playing so-so ball...Bocanegra, Dempsey (Fullham) and Corey Gibbs (Charlton), DeMerit (Watford) are all up and down.  The list goes on.


Now...

That said, it's a credit to the direction in which the USSF has been going, and to MLS itself that they have so many young players with an opportunity to play in the EPL.  Contrast that with TnT...we now will have three in one fell swoop as of August.  Yet Trinis love cry down the Americans as you say.  Obviously they're doing something right.

Only the first line of that post was in response to Ponnoxx's point- the rest was just my take on it.....and I wouldn't yet generalize that MLS stars struggle badly in the EPL.....not proven over a long enough time period to be branded as a trend in my opinion. 
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 12:59:38 PM
Their MLS stars struggle in EPL badly..

Not true.....

From the time an AMERICAN begins making critical comments about the EPL, yuh know such will be taken with a pound of salt on a TRINI message board because:

For some strange reason, Trinis fail to respect the U.S. acheivement in football and hence disregard any American perspective about football (pure bad mind)

   
There's a lot of truth in what you write here...but I don't think you address Ponnoxx' point...MLS/American players struggle badly in England.  John Harkes had a decent career at Sheffield Wednesday, and Keller, Friedel, Hahnemann and Howard have had stellar GK careers.  Outside of Brian McBride who is an absolute stud...no other American position player has really distinguished himself.  Reyna...please.  Beasely likely won't be back with Man. City, Onweyu was supposed to be the next best thing at defender....he's out of a club right now...Bobby Convey is playing so-so ball...Bocanegra, Dempsey (Fullham) and Corey Gibbs (Charlton), DeMerit (Watford) are all up and down.  The list goes on.


Now...

That said, it's a credit to the direction in which the USSF has been going, and to MLS itself that they have so many young players with an opportunity to play in the EPL.  Contrast that with TnT...we now will have three in one fell swoop as of August.  Yet Trinis love cry down the Americans as you say.  Obviously they're doing something right.

Only the first line of that post was in response to Ponnoxx's point- the rest was just my take on it...

which is why I disagreed on the first line...and concurred on the rest that I quoted...
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 01:03:21 PM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".

 ???  ???
I think he means that Lalas isn't so much criticizing the quality of the EPL game, but moreso the quality of the EPL as a marketable entity.

Six on one hand...half dozen on the other if you ask me though.  The EPL is in great financial shape...so obviously they're doing a bang up job with marketing to sponsors and fans.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2007, 01:03:30 PM
Their MLS stars struggle in EPL badly..

Not true.....

From the time an AMERICAN begins making critical comments about the EPL, yuh know such will be taken with a pound of salt on a TRINI message board because:

For some strange reason, Trinis fail to respect the U.S. acheivement in football and hence disregard any American perspective about football (pure bad mind)

   
There's a lot of truth in what you write here...but I don't think you address Ponnoxx' point...MLS/American players struggle badly in England.  John Harkes had a decent career at Sheffield Wednesday, and Keller, Friedel, Hahnemann and Howard have had stellar GK careers.  Outside of Brian McBride who is an absolute stud...no other American position player has really distinguished himself.  Reyna...please.  Beasely likely won't be back with Man. City, Onweyu was supposed to be the next best thing at defender....he's out of a club right now...Bobby Convey is playing so-so ball...Bocanegra, Dempsey (Fullham) and Corey Gibbs (Charlton), DeMerit (Watford) are all up and down.  The list goes on.


Now...

That said, it's a credit to the direction in which the USSF has been going, and to MLS itself that they have so many young players with an opportunity to play in the EPL.  Contrast that with TnT...we now will have three in one fell swoop as of August.  Yet Trinis love cry down the Americans as you say.  Obviously they're doing something right.

Only the first line of that post was in response to Ponnoxx's point- the rest was just my take on it...

which is why I disagreed on the first line...and concurred on the rest that I quoted...

hard luck boy Bakes....laawwd yuh quick on the draw...I was just expanding on meh point, (prematurely hit "send")...and yuh hit meh b4 ah could modify.....hear meh out again- above... :beermug:
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 01:06:03 PM


hard luck boy Bakes....laawwd yuh quick on the draw...I was just expanding on meh point, (prematurely hit "send")...and yuh hit meh b4 ah could modify.....hear meh out again- above... :beermug:
lol...ah juss doing ah quick run thru before ah breeze out...


If they cyah stick long enuf to prove theyself what that tell yuh  8)
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2007, 01:11:57 PM


hard luck boy Bakes....laawwd yuh quick on the draw...I was just expanding on meh point, (prematurely hit "send")...and yuh hit meh b4 ah could modify.....hear meh out again- above... :beermug:
lol...ah juss doing ah quick run thru before ah breeze out...


If they cyah stick long enuf to prove theyself what that tell yuh  8)

Point taken...IMHO though for a country that only got its act together (football-wise) in the last decade and a half, their players have done their cause no major harm in England (and Europe in general)- Now if yuh want to talk about players who traditionally (long enough to call a trend) struggle badly outside of their home------ Mexico !!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: elan on June 19, 2007, 01:22:25 PM
The commentators during T&T game vs USA, one of them (Caliguiri I believe)  said that not even the Mexicans in the Mexican league is playing at a high standard; that the MLS was better then the Mexican League. I could not understand how he come up with that, but now here is another "great" American saying that the EPL is inferior.


Look at the standings. The supposedly best team is just that supposedly.
http://web.mlsnet.com/standings/index.jsp

http://web.mlsnet.com/stats/index.jsp

All this amount to is nothing.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: ribbit on June 19, 2007, 01:46:51 PM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".

 ???  ???
I think he means that Lalas isn't so much criticizing the quality of the EPL game, but moreso the quality of the EPL as a marketable entity.

Six on one hand...half dozen on the other if you ask me though.  The EPL is in great financial shape...so obviously they're doing a bang up job with marketing to sponsors and fans.

thanks bake n' shark - that's exactly what i meant.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 01:48:22 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop
I know he ent schupid enough to compare MLS to the EPL...but he did say that it is an inferior product...not 'disappointing'...inferior.

The question then becomes...inferior compared to what?

As I said in my first post....he used some poor words and definitely has an axe to grind. His words came across as defensive and a lil' bit angry. He lost his credibility even more so when he used the word inferior. Now most people are losing their heads and comparing MLS to EPL and saying Lalas is insane (well..OK..he insane, but for entirely different reasons). He should take some speech writing lessons from Shaka. Anyhow..when I read Lalas comments, what I got is someone saying that the product is inferior to perception. The EPL has sold itself successfully as the best league in Europe, and Lalas believes that it isn't. He is not alone. His way of expressing that though is unfortunate. ironically, I am 100% sure that MLS wishes it could do the same thing. They not chasing fellas like Becks purely for sporting reasons..marketing and hype are part of the mix. He is just vex that the English call the MLS a mickey mouse league..so he's taking a shot back at the EPL as an overrated, overhyped league. That's my take.

This may be true that was not holding up the MLS to the EPL, but my point as a representative of the MLS he is the last person to talk.
Leave them kinda aruguments for men from Spain and Italy.

Sorry boss..but if the man want to call it how he sees it, he free to do so. Doh matter what we think of MLS. No matter if he wrong. The man patriotic and standing behind his league after a set of outsiders decide to denigrate it. If the English press come round PFL and start to talk shite..I want Skeene to stand up behind it and pelt some hand too. Even if he know he out of his weight class. That kinda 'know yuh place' attitude done. When T&T play England in the World Cup, we was bullish..we talk about all the weaknesses England had, how we go take them. By your logic, we shoulda hush and take we licks lying down. Lalas didn't pull it off right..he lacking the skills. But I like him for standing up for his. We should take note.


Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 02:00:52 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Don't you think that his saying that if MLS players were put into the Premeireship they wouldn't miss a beat...isn't that insinuating that the MLS is at least on par with the EPL? That seems to be a comparison to me.

Lalas:
“In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.”
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2007, 02:09:34 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Maybe not directly, but he did refer to the MLS as "one of the world's most competitive leagues". Yes it was made in a different point, but if in the same discussion you refer to the EPL as inferior (relatively or absolutely), and then refer to the MLS as one of the world most competitive leagues- there might be some sorta indirect comparison there...either that or some sort of self-contradiction

Like you say, he has an axe to grind, and he's on a bit of a pro-American tirade.....understandably so...and oh well....

I stand by the notion that the majority of fuss on this thread is about Trinis fighting down the U.S./MLS & at the same time worshipping the EPL.....if Rafa Benitez came out and said that there are a handful of PFL players that could walk on to Liverpool and not miss a beat, we woulda quote it as the gospel, even though the absurdity of such a statement is exponentially greater than anything that Lalas said....plain talk eh no bad manners....
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 02:11:00 PM
A more comprehensive article. Sorry bout the Guardian one.

LONDON – Alexi Lalas helped humiliate English soccer 14 years ago. It looks like he's trying to do it again.
The Los Angeles Galaxy president, who scored when the United States beat England 2-0 in a friendly match in 1993, told British newspapers that Major League Soccer is on a par with the Premier League.

Irked by suggestions that David Beckham is going into semiretirement by joining the Galaxy, Lalas said the only reason the English league is popular is because of American-style marketing.
“The fact that a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business,” Lalas said in an interview with The Guardian published Tuesday.

“In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.”
Brian McBride and Clint Dempsey are among the American players in the Premier League, although they play for modest Fulham. None of the American players in England are stars of the caliber of those at teams such as Manchester United and Chelsea.

McBride – the third highest scorer in U.S. national team history with 30 goals – scored nine times last season for Fulham, which finished 16th in the Premier League. His tally was 12 short of Didier Drogba's league-high 21 for Chelsea, and the same as Wigan's Emile Heskey and Aston Villa's Gabriel Agbonlahor.

Despite criticizing the Premier League for sloganeering and over-marketing, Lalas claimed that, when he arrives, Beckham will have a higher profile in the United States than Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan.

“The U.S. will never have dealt with an athlete who has had this kind of international impact,” Lalas told The Mirror. “Tiger Woods has that international appeal but, with due respect to Woods and Michael Jordan, David Beckham is at an entirely different level.”

Lalas, a 37-year-old former United States defender, said his country's record at the past four World Cups compared favorably with that of England – England has two underwhelming quarterfinal appearances to one for the U.S. – and suggested almost all those who criticize the MLS have yet to see the league.

However, several British papers were unimpressed by the Galaxy's 3-2 win over Real Salt Lake on Sunday.

“The game was not without moments of quality ... (but) some of the defending from both sides was the type of stuff you watch through your fingers,” according to The Mirror. “It was the football equivalent of a demolition derby.

“The use of possession was alarmingly careless and the concept of marking appeared not to have found its way across the Atlantic.”

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: daryn on June 19, 2007, 02:17:40 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Maybe not directly, but he did refer to the MLS as "one of the world's most competitive leagues".

competitiveness and quality are not the same thing.  I think he was comparing the competitiveness of the two leagues as opposed to their quality.
 
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 02:20:31 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Maybe not directly, but he did refer to the MLS as "one of the world's most competitive leagues".

competitiveness and quality are not the same thing.  I think he was comparing the competitiveness of the two leagues as opposed to their quality.
 

No, he was comparing quality. He actually said that if MLS players were taken to the Premeireship, the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality. Dis man mad oui. I doh even rate the EPL out of rivalry buh he have to be on some serious drugs.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 02:27:44 PM
It had a list or something on this forum a time...Anyhow...Toppa...MLS seperating itself from PFL in my book because of fitness and a better marketing plan(understandable)...The skill of the league that distinguishable in my opinion...If you look at the Mexican league or the Argentine league you could see that all the players are at a higher level...I get vex when Beenie and Wim bad talk the PFL because , I mean what they expect ...PFL big issue is to get people out their houses to go to games....Generally Trinbagonians very polar and (this is not a word eh what the hell) waggonistical that they don't support anything until other people take notice...America has made tremendous strides in football but they remain stagnant for all the progress they gained...I say this simply because Football from top to bottom is the same...Good basic Football...I mean you can't ask for anything more but I think that is the reason why they are not respected as much...You go to MLS, USL, PDL and Super-Y and they all play alike....Just who more athletic makes it to the top...This is a good thing because it shows that all American players  on a decent technical level...Until you see an American player born in AMerica with American grandparents hitting man body dancie-like fakes, cheeky shots, no look pass, executing serious control  and even just beating for the hell of it, They will never be respected....Well I guess you could say unless you see PFL players develop the kind of fitness needed at the highest level they will never be respected either...which is true....Football is cultural....We too lazy to emphasize superior fitness and them to methodical to step out the square that they are in...Technique and Athleticism alone can't win World Cups...African players grow up with less resources than our players but they are not lazy and push their athletic potential to the max....Why you think Foreign clubs does take our players? Cheap, something different because a man with good technique could always be found(think about it), and does usually look athletic(not always the case)...They does think if they get the player fit enough...with his skill he would be a big player and plus he cheap....We players lazy and don't usually push themselves....Football is cultural...tell a Trini reach 1'oclock and he reaching 15 minutes pass....Go T&T

Both true statements, fortunately these can be corrected in the PFL. That correction has to start from the top down and the clubs have to establish a club specific culture. Professionalism must be established at the clubs, if they let players know that playing football is their"jobs" and that they can be replaced or benched and that there are expectations that come with playing for the various clubs the whole business of fitness levels, fighting to the end, leaving everything on the pitch etc would be passe.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: daryn on June 19, 2007, 02:29:28 PM

No, he was comparing quality. He actually said that if MLS players were taken to the Premeireship, the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality. Dis man mad oui. I doh even rate the EPL out of rivalry buh he have to be on some serious drugs.

I'm just referring to the one line "one of the world's most competitive leagues".  Kicker was right to point out that by using that line he was implicitly making a comparison.  In fact he is implicitly comparing the mls to every other league in the world with that statement.  However, at least in that statement, he is comparing competitiveness as opposed to quality.

apparently he is of the mindset that a competitive football is a better "product" than good football (not that the two are mutually exclusive).  maybe there is some merit in that.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 02:37:29 PM

No, he was comparing quality. He actually said that if MLS players were taken to the Premeireship, the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality. Dis man mad oui. I doh even rate the EPL out of rivalry buh he have to be on some serious drugs.

I'm just referring to the one line "one of the world's most competitive leagues".  Kicker was right to point out that by using that line he was implicitly making a comparison.  In fact he is implicitly comparing the mls to every other league in the world with that statement.  However, at least in that statement, he is comparing competitiveness as opposed to quality.

apparently he is of the mindset that a competitive football is a better "product" than good football (not that the two are mutually exclusive).  maybe there is some merit in that.

Yeah but he's not only comparing competitiveness. He also compared sheer quality by his other statements. Sorry for not posting a better article initially.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: MEP on June 19, 2007, 02:42:38 PM
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: and allyuh chupid enough to listen to lalas when stray dog barking ah good big stone go usually shut it up....
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 02:43:28 PM
A more comprehensive article. Sorry bout the Guardian one.

LONDON – Alexi Lalas helped humiliate English soccer 14 years ago. It looks like he's trying to do it again.
The Los Angeles Galaxy president, who scored when the United States beat England 2-0 in a friendly match in 1993, told British newspapers that Major League Soccer is on a par with the Premier League.

Irked by suggestions that David Beckham is going into semiretirement by joining the Galaxy, Lalas said the only reason the English league is popular is because of American-style marketing.
“The fact that a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business,” Lalas said in an interview with The Guardian published Tuesday.

“In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.”
Brian McBride and Clint Dempsey are among the American players in the Premier League, although they play for modest Fulham. None of the American players in England are stars of the caliber of those at teams such as Manchester United and Chelsea.

McBride – the third highest scorer in U.S. national team history with 30 goals – scored nine times last season for Fulham, which finished 16th in the Premier League. His tally was 12 short of Didier Drogba's league-high 21 for Chelsea, and the same as Wigan's Emile Heskey and Aston Villa's Gabriel Agbonlahor.

Despite criticizing the Premier League for sloganeering and over-marketing, Lalas claimed that, when he arrives, Beckham will have a higher profile in the United States than Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan. “The U.S. will never have dealt with an athlete who has had this kind of international impact,” Lalas told The Mirror. “Tiger Woods has that international appeal but, with due respect to Woods and Michael Jordan, David Beckham is at an entirely different level.”

Lalas, a 37-year-old former United States defender, said his country's record at the past four World Cups compared favorably with that of England – England has two underwhelming quarterfinal appearances to one for the U.S. – and suggested almost all those who criticize the MLS have yet to see the league.

However, several British papers were unimpressed by the Galaxy's 3-2 win over Real Salt Lake on Sunday.

“The game was not without moments of quality ... (but) some of the defending from both sides was the type of stuff you watch through your fingers,” according to The Mirror. “It was the football equivalent of a demolition derby.

“The use of possession was alarmingly careless and the concept of marking appeared not to have found its way across the Atlantic.”

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html


Talk about using some good old American marketing ::)
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 02:44:21 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Maybe not directly, but he did refer to the MLS as "one of the world's most competitive leagues".

competitiveness and quality are not the same thing.  I think he was comparing the competitiveness of the two leagues as opposed to their quality.
 

what's the difference?
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: daryn on June 19, 2007, 02:57:24 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Maybe not directly, but he did refer to the MLS as "one of the world's most competitive leagues".

competitiveness and quality are not the same thing.  I think he was comparing the competitiveness of the two leagues as opposed to their quality.
 

what's the difference?

competitiveness is a measure of how evenly matched the teams in the league are.  It's not as big of a surprise for a team at/near the bottom of the table of the mls to beat a team at/near the top of the table.  there is a bigger sense of uncertainty going into such a game in the mls.  this is why he also used the "haves and have-nots" when referring to the EPL.

as for the claim that you could carry a bunch of mls players to england, the question is: how would an average mls team do against fulham or reading or wigan.  more than a few mls players have moved to the EPL with relatively smooth transitions.  Of course these guys were above average in the mls and none of them is playing for the top handful of teams.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 19, 2007, 03:06:42 PM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".

 ???  ???
I think he means that Lalas isn't so much criticizing the quality of the EPL game, but moreso the quality of the EPL as a marketable entity.

Six on one hand...half dozen on the other if you ask me though.  The EPL is in great financial shape...so obviously they're doing a bang up job with marketing to sponsors and fans.

thanks bake n' shark - that's exactly what i meant.

Forgive me if I am putting words in your mouth but i dont think that is what you meant to say at all, just that BnS put a good spin on it so you like that.

Quote
Alexi Lalas, the president of LA Galaxy and the man responsible for taking David Beckham to Major League Soccer in the United States next month, has suggested that the Premiership is an "inferior product" whose global success is largely down to American marketing techniques.
"There's no accounting for bad taste," Lalas said in an exclusive interview with the Guardian. "That a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business. English football now has the haves and the have-nots. It's just that the Premiership have become so skilled in presentation. They took a page out of American football and so now they have Saturday Showdowns and Super Sundays. I love it. This is high-calibre marketing - taking an inferior product and improving it through packaging."

yuh see all them bolded lines, is the football the man talking about, the so called quality of the EPL as a marketable entity is the quality of its football.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 03:13:31 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Maybe not directly, but he did refer to the MLS as "one of the world's most competitive leagues".

competitiveness and quality are not the same thing.  I think he was comparing the competitiveness of the two leagues as opposed to their quality.
 

what's the difference?

competitiveness is a measure of how evenly matched the teams in the league are.  It's not as big of a surprise for a team at/near the bottom of the table of the mls to beat a team at/near the top of the table.  there is a bigger sense of uncertainty going into such a game in the mls.  this is why he also used the "haves and have-nots" when referring to the EPL.

as for the claim that you could carry a bunch of mls players to england, the question is: how would an average mls team do against fulham or reading or wigan.  more than a few mls players have moved to the EPL with relatively smooth transitions.  Of course these guys were above average in the mls and none of them is playing for the top handful of teams.

What about quality?
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 03:25:14 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Don't you think that his saying that if MLS players were put into the Premeireship they wouldn't miss a beat...isn't that insinuating that the MLS is at least on par with the EPL? That seems to be a comparison to me.

Lalas:
“In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.”
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html

I am referring specifically to the comment about inferior product. He is not inferring that EPL is inferior to MLS imo. Even his comment about MLS players being able to hold their own in the EPL is not a direct comparison of the 2 leagues. For a league to be on par with another, your players can't just be capable of making the grade..even Lalas knows that. He did not say they would light it up or excel in the EPL. He just said they would make the grade. I agree completely with him. Many MLS players could do a decent job in the EPL and EPL managers beginning to realize. Forget the top 6. Lewwe talk about Man City, Reading and Fulham etc...Many MLS players could go to the EPL and do a decent job. Lalas never said they would dominate. They would just get the job done like most of their English counterparts. You wouldn't even notice they were American if you didn't already know. All the American players in the MLS filling in like the majority of English players..they not stars, but you not saying..'he look at them stale Yanks'. AND most of them even came out of the US college system, so they were at a disadvantage in their development. Even fellas like Onyewu (ok..he never played MLS) and Beasly who did not earn contracts were no worse than the majority of their teammates. Lalas eh lie at all. Shitsnake Jay De Meritt and all  ;D  starting right through..doh mind his side get relegated, the man play in the EPL and didn't stink no more than his teammates. heheh.... I know Lalas went overboard..but the man lose his cool or his brain lil loose. Underneath it all I see some truth to man statements
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: daryn on June 19, 2007, 03:27:49 PM
competitiveness is a measure of how evenly matched the teams in the league are.  It's not as big of a surprise for a team at/near the bottom of the table of the mls to beat a team at/near the top of the table.  there is a bigger sense of uncertainty going into such a game in the mls.  this is why he also used the "haves and have-nots" when referring to the EPL.

as for the claim that you could carry a bunch of mls players to england, the question is: how would an average mls team do against fulham or reading or wigan.  more than a few mls players have moved to the EPL with relatively smooth transitions.  Of course these guys were above average in the mls and none of them is playing for the top handful of teams.

What about quality?

sorry, I thought that competitiveness was the problematic term.  by quality I just mean how good the teams, and by extension the game, are.

for example, even if we assume that the worst EPL team is better than the best MLS team it doesn't mean that Man U v Watford is more evenly poised than Red Bulls v Real Salt Lake.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 03:31:46 PM
competitiveness is a measure of how evenly matched the teams in the league are.  It's not as big of a surprise for a team at/near the bottom of the table of the mls to beat a team at/near the top of the table.  there is a bigger sense of uncertainty going into such a game in the mls.  this is why he also used the "haves and have-nots" when referring to the EPL.

as for the claim that you could carry a bunch of mls players to england, the question is: how would an average mls team do against fulham or reading or wigan.  more than a few mls players have moved to the EPL with relatively smooth transitions.  Of course these guys were above average in the mls and none of them is playing for the top handful of teams.

What about quality?

sorry, I thought that competitiveness was the problematic term.  by quality I just mean how good the teams, and by extension the game, are.

for example, even if we assume that the worst EPL team is better than the best MLS team it doesn't mean that Man U v Watford is more evenly poised than Red Bulls v Real Salt Lake.

thanks
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 03:45:52 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Don't you think that his saying that if MLS players were put into the Premeireship they wouldn't miss a beat...isn't that insinuating that the MLS is at least on par with the EPL? That seems to be a comparison to me.

Lalas:
“In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.”
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html

I am referring specifically to the comment about inferior product. He is not inferring that EPL is inferior to MLS imo. Even his comment about MLS players being able to hold their own in the EPL is not a direct comparison of the 2 leagues. For a league to be on par with another, your players can't just be capable of making the grade..even Lalas knows that. He did not say they would light it up or excel in the EPL. He just said they would make the grade. I agree completely with him. Many MLS players could do a decent job in the EPL and EPL managers beginning to realize. Forget the top 6. Lewwe talk about Man City, Reading and Fulham etc...Many MLS players could go to the EPL and do a decent job. Lalas never said they would dominate. They would just get the job done like most of their English counterparts. You wouldn't even notice they were American if you didn't already know. All the American players in the MLS filling in like the majority of English players..they not stars, but you not saying..'he look at them stale Yanks'. AND most of them even came out of the US college system, so they were at a disadvantage in their development. Even fellas like Onyewu (ok..he never played MLS) and Beasly who did not earn contracts were no worse than the majority of their teammates. Lalas eh lie at all. Shitsnake Jay De Meritt and all  ;D  starting right through..doh mind his side get relegated, the man play in the EPL and didn't stink no more than his teammates. heheh.... I know Lalas went overboard..but the man lose his cool or his brain lil loose. Underneath it all I see some truth to man statements

Excuse me, but by saying that the MLS players wouldn't "miss a beat" and that there would be no "difference in quality" he is obviously saying that they are on par/at the same level as their Englsih counter-parts...that there is a comparison. And he didn't even say whether he was talking about the mid-tier clubs, leaving us to assume that he meant the league in general, which would obviously include the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2007, 04:03:26 PM
THat is why the MLS is total crap and would NEVER reach.  That's why american sports fans think that football is for gays.  In addition to the way that them the men's team does run. (very strange technique  ;))  these arrogant statements is why American Soccer will never be taken seriously.  This think is not just Lalas all the commentators does say the same duncy things.

Anyways I think we league as good as la liga.  And from the way we perform at the Gold Cup you could sub in we fellas and we ent go miss a beat neither.   ;D
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 04:10:49 PM
THat is why the MLS is total crap and would NEVER reach.  That's why american sports fans think that football is for gays.  In addition to the way that them the men's team does run. (very strange technique  ;))  these arrogant statements is why American Soccer will never be taken seriously.  This think is not just Lalas all the commentators does say the same duncy things.

Anyways I think we league as good as la liga.  And from the way we perform at the Gold Cup you could sub in we fellas and we ent go miss a beat neither.    ;D

Come nah man!  :D
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 04:49:50 PM
Excuse me, but by saying that the MLS players wouldn't "miss a beat" and that there would be no "difference in quality" he is obviously saying that they are on par/at the same level as their Englsih counter-parts...that there is a comparison. And he didn't even say whether he was talking about the mid-tier clubs, leaving us to assume that he meant the league in general, which would obviously include the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Nope. There is no real comparison of leagues there. He just inferring you wouldn't notice any difference from the average. He is not using those exact words, but to me, that is what he is inferring.  Now the man taking a shot..so he pushing the boundaries a little..and on purpose. But did he say any MLS players would be stars in the EPL? NOPE. That to me says he not really saying they are equal, cuz for MLS to be on par with the EPL, its not good enough to just handle your stories. YTou have to have a few who could more than ride with the very best and he is careful not go so far. Right now he saying that he feels many of his boys could play in the EPL without looking out of place..and more and more of them doing it. So I cah hate on the man.

Besides..I look at it this way. Them English snobs writing some real poor reviews about your product and most of them just elitist snobs who never even watch a game. steeuups. When the English belittle our warriors..what we say. OH the EPL overrated..them fellas not good. Oh we could beat them. This one and that one good enough for EPL..blah blah blah. Same setta ah allyuh come back now and crying down Lalas. The English belittling the Americans and we vex cuz Lalas come back swinging. So what if you disagree..the man doing the right thing (and is good kix too). So what if he need some lessons in subtelty. Hit them boy Alexi...Let the establishment know that when they want to get nasty, you go fight back. Is only US hate on this board..steups. In principal I standing with Alexi.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 05:11:31 PM
Excuse me, but by saying that the MLS players wouldn't "miss a beat" and that there would be no "difference in quality" he is obviously saying that they are on par/at the same level as their Englsih counter-parts...that there is a comparison. And he didn't even say whether he was talking about the mid-tier clubs, leaving us to assume that he meant the league in general, which would obviously include the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Nope. There is no real comparison of leagues there. He just inferring you wouldn't notice any difference from the average. He is not using those exact words, but to me, that is what he is inferring.  Now the man taking a shot..so he pushing the boundaries a little..and on purpose. But did he say any MLS players would be stars in the EPL? NOPE. That to me says he not really saying they are equal, cuz for MLS to be on par with the EPL, its not good enough to just handle your stories. YTou have to have a few who could more than ride with the very best and he is careful not go so far. Right now he saying that he feels many of his boys could play in the EPL without looking out of place..and more and more of them doing it. So I cah hate on the man.

Besides..I look at it this way. Them English snobs writing some real poor reviews about your product and most of them just elitist snobs who never even watch a game. steeuups. When the English belittle our warriors..what we say. OH the EPL overrated..them fellas not good. Oh we could beat them. This one and that one good enough for EPL..blah blah blah. Same setta ah allyuh come back now and crying down Lalas. The English belittling the Americans and we vex cuz Lalas come back swinging. So what if you disagree..the man doing the right thing (and is good kix too). So what if he need some lessons in subtelty. Hit them boy Alexi...Let the establishment know that when they want to get nasty, you go fight back. Is only US hate on this board..steups. In principal I standing with Alexi.

And in order to infer anything between the MLS and the EPL a comparison has to be made. Yuh real stubborn horse.  :D

Compare: v. 1 estimate, measure or note the similarity between; point out or describe the resemblances of something with; liken to.

So umm...yeah, Lalas was comparing the MLS to the EPL and his assessment was that MLS players would be able to hold their own and perform on par with players in the EPL. Whether you agree with him or not is beside the point.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: trinikev on June 19, 2007, 05:29:23 PM
Excuse me, but by saying that the MLS players wouldn't "miss a beat" and that there would be no "difference in quality" he is obviously saying that they are on par/at the same level as their Englsih counter-parts...that there is a comparison. And he didn't even say whether he was talking about the mid-tier clubs, leaving us to assume that he meant the league in general, which would obviously include the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Nope. There is no real comparison of leagues there. He just inferring you wouldn't notice any difference from the average. He is not using those exact words, but to me, that is what he is inferring.  Now the man taking a shot..so he pushing the boundaries a little..and on purpose. But did he say any MLS players would be stars in the EPL? NOPE. That to me says he not really saying they are equal, cuz for MLS to be on par with the EPL, its not good enough to just handle your stories. YTou have to have a few who could more than ride with the very best and he is careful not go so far. Right now he saying that he feels many of his boys could play in the EPL without looking out of place..and more and more of them doing it. So I cah hate on the man.

Besides..I look at it this way. Them English snobs writing some real poor reviews about your product and most of them just elitist snobs who never even watch a game. steeuups. When the English belittle our warriors..what we say. OH the EPL overrated..them fellas not good. Oh we could beat them. This one and that one good enough for EPL..blah blah blah. Same setta ah allyuh come back now and crying down Lalas. The English belittling the Americans and we vex cuz Lalas come back swinging. So what if you disagree..the man doing the right thing (and is good kix too). So what if he need some lessons in subtelty. Hit them boy Alexi...Let the establishment know that when they want to get nasty, you go fight back. Is only US hate on this board..steups. In principal I standing with Alexi.

I agreed with almost everything u been saying so far Filho, but i think Toppa have a point there. While u right that his comment did not explicitly compare the leagues, by saying that taking a handful of MLS players and putting it in the EPL wudn't change anything, I see that as him saying that the players in the MLS are just as good as those in the EPL. And i doh think he referring to Beckham and Pablo Angel there. Thats the only point where i agree that he making a comparison, whether he realise that or not. Daz jus MHO tho  :beermug:
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: weary1969 on June 19, 2007, 05:43:31 PM
I eh no lover of the EPl. That being said dem fellas doin marketing b4 man hear bout the 4 P's of marketing.

So Lalas why not learn from dem and see how u can market that jokey league call the MLS.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: triniairman on June 19, 2007, 07:45:04 PM
All of you who talking about LalAss MAKING SENSE is just ah bunch ah EPL haters stueps.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 08:02:45 PM
All of you who talking about LalAss MAKING SENSE is just ah bunch ah EPL haters stueps.

nope.. I love the EPL. And although I disagree with how Lalas expressed his point, I think I understand and agree with a lot of what he is saying. The EPL is a very well promoted, well marketed product. It is miles ahead of La Liga and Serie A in terms of global viewership, profiability and commercial viability. If you believe that is all down to what is going on on the pitch (that part is dam good and exciting)..well, you're wrong. You don't have to be an EPL hater to recognize what a good job they have done promoting the product. Would I use the term inferior...never..but as I said before, I doh mind that Lalas come out swinging  ;D
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: jai john on June 19, 2007, 08:20:29 PM
All of you who talking about LalAss MAKING SENSE is just ah bunch ah EPL haters stueps.

nope.. I love the EPL. And although I disagree with how Lalas expressed his point, I think I understand and agree with a lot of what he is saying. The EPL is a very well promoted, well marketed product. It is miles ahead of La Liga and Serie A in terms of global viewership, profiability and commercial viability. If you believe that is all down to what is going on on the pitch (that part is dam good and exciting)..well, you're wrong. You don't have to be an EPL hater to recognize what a good job they have done promoting the product. Would I use the term inferior...never..but as I said before, I doh mind that Lalas come out swinging  ;D


you think the strength of the english currency also helps this process along ? After all evryone wants to play for chelsea in the premiership ......because of the quality of their football right ?
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 09:08:22 PM
And in order to infer anything between the MLS and the EPL a comparison has to be made. Yuh real stubborn horse.  :D

Compare: v. 1 estimate, measure or note the similarity between; point out or describe the resemblances of something with; liken to.

So umm...yeah, Lalas was comparing the MLS to the EPL and his assessment was that MLS players would be able to hold their own and perform on par with players in the EPL. Whether you agree with him or not is beside the point.

Toppa..I am a subborn fella :devil: :devil:. But I not stubborn for stubborness sake. Yeah..he is indirectly comparing the 2 leagues. No doubt. When I first said he was not comparing them, I did not see the part about the MLS players being able to hold their own in the EPL. My first 2 responses were to the original post which I think did not have that part. I think that was added later..no? Like I said, I was really referring to the 'inferior' comment. I was saying he is not calling it an inferior product compared to the MLS. Of course, in typical fashion, I couldn't leave it at that. I wanted to say that Lalas had not said anything to indicate he thought the two leagues wer on par and mistakenly argued that he was not comparing them. But you're correct. It is an indirect comparison of the leagues. Does he really think every MLS player could make it in the EPL? I doubt that. Could anyone be that deluded? His statement reads a lot like hyperbole. He is exaggerating to make a point. I think you could take any number of players from the portuguese league and they would do a decent job in the EPL, same for Holland or France...yet it is widely accepted that these are inferior leagues to the EPL. So I just was not reading to much into that statement other than 'we produce a decent number of good players'.

Watch and see tomorrow he will say the MLS better than the EPL and I will have to flicking hit him a lash after a defend him whole day on de forum ;D
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 09:16:13 PM
And in order to infer anything between the MLS and the EPL a comparison has to be made. Yuh real stubborn horse.  :D

Compare: v. 1 estimate, measure or note the similarity between; point out or describe the resemblances of something with; liken to.

So umm...yeah, Lalas was comparing the MLS to the EPL and his assessment was that MLS players would be able to hold their own and perform on par with players in the EPL. Whether you agree with him or not is beside the point.

Toppa..I am a subborn fella :devil: :devil:. But I not stubborn for stubborness sake. Yeah..he is indirectly comparing the 2 leagues. No doubt. When I first said he was not comparing them, I did not see the part about the MLS players being able to hold their own in the EPL. My first 2 responses were to the original post which I think did not have that part. I think that was added later..no? Then even when I saw that, I was confusing the idea that he really was not saying the leagues are equal...with not comparing them. But you're correct. It is an indirect comparison of the leagues. Does he really think every MLS player could make it in the EPL. I doubt that. Could anyone be that deluded? His statement reads a lot like hyperbole. He is exaggerating to make a point. I am looking at it like that, so I really don't get a clear picture of how he feels about MLS as a league compared to the EPL. And I don't think that is his intention. At best I can say I don't think he really believes they are comparable, but you're right, in doing so he has compared them.

Watch and see tomorrow he will say the MLS better than the EPL and I will have to flicking hit him a lash after a defend him whole day on de forum ;D

Yeah, no scene. Maybe he really did just want to lash out, buh he just make it harder for people to take him or the MLS seriously. But at least he made my facebook quotes, so that's a plus for him.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 09:18:24 PM
And in order to infer anything between the MLS and the EPL a comparison has to be made. Yuh real stubborn horse.  :D

Compare: v. 1 estimate, measure or note the similarity between; point out or describe the resemblances of something with; liken to.

So umm...yeah, Lalas was comparing the MLS to the EPL and his assessment was that MLS players would be able to hold their own and perform on par with players in the EPL. Whether you agree with him or not is beside the point.

Toppa..I am a subborn fella :devil: :devil:. But I not stubborn for stubborness sake. Yeah..he is indirectly comparing the 2 leagues. No doubt. When I first said he was not comparing them, I did not see the part about the MLS players being able to hold their own in the EPL. My first 2 responses were to the original post which I think did not have that part. I think that was added later..no? Then even when I saw that, I was confusing the idea that he really was not saying the leagues are equal...with not comparing them. But you're correct. It is an indirect comparison of the leagues. Does he really think every MLS player could make it in the EPL. I doubt that. Could anyone be that deluded? His statement reads a lot like hyperbole. He is exaggerating to make a point. I am looking at it like that, so I really don't get a clear picture of how he feels about MLS as a league compared to the EPL. And I don't think that is his intention. At best I can say I don't think he really believes they are comparable, but you're right, in doing so he has compared them.

Watch and see tomorrow he will say the MLS better than the EPL and I will have to flicking hit him a lash after a defend him whole day on de forum ;D

Yeah, no scene. Maybe he really did just want to lash out, buh he just make it harder for people to take him or the MLS seriously. But at least he made my facebook quotes, so that's a plus for him.

Yeah..just so you know. I made some edits to the post. I didn't change the gist, but it will read differently from what you quoted. THought I could change it up a bit before anyone replied..Allyuh too swift ;D

Lalas knows what he is doing. People all over the world discussing his statements. This is probably all a carefully planned publicity stunt by MLS. Every football chatroom, blog etc...is talking about Alexi Lalas. More people will be inclined to tune it to MLS to see what this 'idiot' is talking about
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2007, 09:19:20 PM
Excuse me, but by saying that the MLS players wouldn't "miss a beat" and that there would be no "difference in quality" he is obviously saying that they are on par/at the same level as their Englsih counter-parts...that there is a comparison. And he didn't even say whether he was talking about the mid-tier clubs, leaving us to assume that he meant the league in general, which would obviously include the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Nope. There is no real comparison of leagues there.

Like I said b4, even though there is no direct comparison (in the first article), yuh hadda be a real technical man relying on semantics & splitting hairs to deny that Lalas is not implying that the MLS is on par with the EPL (even if he doesn't believe it deep down inside himself) based on his statements.....Technically what he expressing is that MLS players are somewhat technically on par with EPL players in general...Deducing a similar comparison of leagues by extrapolation is not that far of stretch- give Toppa a bligh....

It is true that saying MLS players wouldn't miss a beat if dropped in the middle of a EPL game is not necessarily a comparison of the leagues- just because players are technically on par doesn't make the league on par, because the EPL consists of more teams, more competitions, more games, more global exposure, greater pressure from the press, more passionate fans, bigger prize money, bigger salaries, more endorsement opportunities etc............................so there are many factors that set the leagues apart other than the technical ability of the players (which Lalas is speaking more directly too)....but I eh go dis Toppa for drawing the deduction that she did....Lalas was taking a jab at the EPL, and in some form or the other comparing it to the MLS.....
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 09:26:35 PM
Excuse me, but by saying that the MLS players wouldn't "miss a beat" and that there would be no "difference in quality" he is obviously saying that they are on par/at the same level as their Englsih counter-parts...that there is a comparison. And he didn't even say whether he was talking about the mid-tier clubs, leaving us to assume that he meant the league in general, which would obviously include the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Nope. There is no real comparison of leagues there.

Like I said b4, even though there is no direct comparison (in the first article), yuh hadda be a real technical man relying on semantics & splitting hairs to deny that Lalas is not implying that the MLS is on par with the EPL (even if he doesn't believe it deep down inside himself) based on his statements.....Technically what he expressing is that MLS players are somewhat technically on par with EPL players in general...Deducing a similar comparison of leagues by extrapolation is not that far of stretch- give Toppa a bligh....

It is true that saying MLS players wouldn't miss a beat if dropped in the middle of a EPL game is not necessarily a comparison of the leagues- just because players are technically on par doesn't make the league on par, because the EPL consists of more teams, more competitions, more games, more global exposure, greater pressure from the press, more passionate fans, bigger prize money, bigger salaries, more endorsement opportunities etc............................so there are many factors that set the leagues apart other than the technical ability of the players (which Lalas is speaking more directly too)....but I eh go dis Toppa for drawing the deduction that she did....Lalas was taking a jab at the EPL, and in some form or the other comparing it to the MLS.....

Real Madrid fans  ::)

kix  :beermug:
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Post by: Jah Gol on June 20, 2007, 05:55:26 AM
The commentators during T&T game vs USA, one of them (Caliguiri I believe)  said that not even the Mexicans in the Mexican league is playing at a high standard; that the MLS was better then the Mexican League. I could not understand how he come up with that, but now here is another "great" American saying that the EPL is inferior.


Look at the standings. The supposedly best team is just that supposedly.
http://web.mlsnet.com/standings/index.jsp

http://web.mlsnet.com/stats/index.jsp


All this amount to is nothing.
If Caliguiri really said that he is backside. The MLS players are probably physically stronger and could possibly give you a better sprint but in terms of tactics and technique it's no comparison. In Mexican football defenders know how to move the ball out of defense better. The average level of ball control they have is remarkable. And front the strikers have much higher skill level and are better finishers. Their solution in a tight situation is thought and not always speed. It's not the first time I've said this but the Mexican league from what I've seen is only behind Brazil and Argentina in terms on this side of the world. If they were able to attract high quality South African and African players the league would improve even more.

As a spectacle is superior to the MLS by far.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 20, 2007, 07:17:11 AM


hard luck boy Bakes....laawwd yuh quick on the draw...I was just expanding on meh point, (prematurely hit "send")...and yuh hit meh b4 ah could modify.....hear meh out again- above... :beermug:
lol...ah juss doing ah quick run thru before ah breeze out...


If they cyah stick long enuf to prove theyself what that tell yuh  8)

Point taken...IMHO though for a country that only got its act together (football-wise) in the last decade and a half, their players have done their cause no major harm in England (and Europe in general)- Now if yuh want to talk about players who traditionally (long enough to call a trend) struggle badly outside of their home------ Mexico !!!!!!!!!!!!




Total agreement...the Yanks have improved by leaps and bounds.  By my own unofficial count there were approximately 13 US players on EPL rosters this past season...pretty decent haul in my mind.

The Mexicans...agreed as well and don't even know what the reason for that might be.
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Post by: Bakes on June 20, 2007, 07:22:36 AM


I stand by the notion that the majority of fuss on this thread is about Trinis fighting down the U.S./MLS & at the same time worshipping the EPL.....if Rafa Benitez came out and said that there are a handful of PFL players that could walk on to Liverpool and not miss a beat, we woulda quote it as the gospel, even though the absurdity of such a statement is exponentially greater than anything that Lalas said....plain talk eh no bad manners....
I agree that far too often people on this board love to jump on the anti-US bandwagon...but in this regard I think the opinions about the perceived comparison are on point.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 20, 2007, 07:28:31 AM


thanks bake n' shark - that's exactly what i meant.

Forgive me if I am putting words in your mouth but i dont think that is what you meant to say at all, just that BnS put a good spin on it so you like that.

Quote
Alexi Lalas, the president of LA Galaxy and the man responsible for taking David Beckham to Major League Soccer in the United States next month, has suggested that the Premiership is an "inferior product" whose global success is largely down to American marketing techniques.
"There's no accounting for bad taste," Lalas said in an exclusive interview with the Guardian. "That a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business. English football now has the haves and the have-nots. It's just that the Premiership have become so skilled in presentation. They took a page out of American football and so now they have Saturday Showdowns and Super Sundays. I love it. This is high-calibre marketing - taking an inferior product and improving it through packaging."

yuh see all them bolded lines, is the football the man talking about, the so called quality of the EPL as a marketable entity is the quality of its football.
I put no particular 'spin' on it...the comment is there for all with understanding to see.  The fact that you can't decipher the message in the statement is not itself an indictment of the statement.
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Post by: ribbit on June 20, 2007, 08:49:57 AM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".

 ???  ???
I think he means that Lalas isn't so much criticizing the quality of the EPL game, but moreso the quality of the EPL as a marketable entity.

Six on one hand...half dozen on the other if you ask me though.  The EPL is in great financial shape...so obviously they're doing a bang up job with marketing to sponsors and fans.

thanks bake n' shark - that's exactly what i meant.

Forgive me if I am putting words in your mouth but i dont think that is what you meant to say at all, just that BnS put a good spin on it so you like that.

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Alexi Lalas, the president of LA Galaxy and the man responsible for taking David Beckham to Major League Soccer in the United States next month, has suggested that the Premiership is an "inferior product" whose global success is largely down to American marketing techniques.
"There's no accounting for bad taste," Lalas said in an exclusive interview with the Guardian. "That a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business. English football now has the haves and the have-nots. It's just that the Premiership have become so skilled in presentation. They took a page out of American football and so now they have Saturday Showdowns and Super Sundays. I love it. This is high-calibre marketing - taking an inferior product and improving it through packaging."

yuh see all them bolded lines, is the football the man talking about, the so called quality of the EPL as a marketable entity is the quality of its football.

mc, yes you are putting words in my mouth and you are not forgiven. i meant it as i said it.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 20, 2007, 09:30:13 AM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".

 ???  ???
I think he means that Lalas isn't so much criticizing the quality of the EPL game, but moreso the quality of the EPL as a marketable entity.

Six on one hand...half dozen on the other if you ask me though.  The EPL is in great financial shape...so obviously they're doing a bang up job with marketing to sponsors and fans.

thanks bake n' shark - that's exactly what i meant.

Forgive me if I am putting words in your mouth but i dont think that is what you meant to say at all, just that BnS put a good spin on it so you like that.

Quote
Alexi Lalas, the president of LA Galaxy and the man responsible for taking David Beckham to Major League Soccer in the United States next month, has suggested that the Premiership is an "inferior product" whose global success is largely down to American marketing techniques.
"There's no accounting for bad taste," Lalas said in an exclusive interview with the Guardian. "That a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business. English football now has the haves and the have-nots. It's just that the Premiership have become so skilled in presentation. They took a page out of American football and so now they have Saturday Showdowns and Super Sundays. I love it. This is high-calibre marketing - taking an inferior product and improving it through packaging."

yuh see all them bolded lines, is the football the man talking about, the so called quality of the EPL as a marketable entity is the quality of its football.

mc, yes you are putting words in my mouth and you are not forgiven. i meant it as i said it.

You mean you meant it as Bake n Shark said it.

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put no particular 'spin' on it...the comment is there for all with understanding to see.  The fact that you can't decipher the message in the statement is not itself an indictment of the statement.

My initial response of  ??? was less about me not understanding the statement and more about me not agreeing with what was being said.
and you are wrong, the fact that I, cant 'decipher' the message in the statement says alot about the statement. 

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Post by: Bakes on June 20, 2007, 09:58:28 AM

My initial response of  ??? was less about me not understanding the statement and more about me not agreeing with what was being said.
and you are wrong, the fact that I, cant 'decipher' the message in the statement says alot about the statement. 



That's how you express disagreement...with a sign of confusion/puzzlement??


De subtle approach ent work so I might as well be blunt...you just damn dotish.
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Post by: Mr Mc on June 20, 2007, 10:05:41 AM

My initial response of  ??? was less about me not understanding the statement and more about me not agreeing with what was being said.
and you are wrong, the fact that I, cant 'decipher' the message in the statement says alot about the statement. 



That's how you express disagreement...with a sign of confusion/puzzlement??


De subtle approach ent work so I might as well be blunt...you just damn dotish.

daiz yuh big response...stueeps!
Boo!
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 20, 2007, 11:06:45 AM


daiz yuh big response...stueeps!
Boo!

^^^^^ in search of a daddy
Title: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: Midknight on August 14, 2009, 06:23:47 PM
Here's a modified version of a little game from the BBC Match of the Day Team:

1) Place the 20 Premier League clubs in the order in which you think they will finish the season. You will get 5 points for each club correctly placed and 3 points if you are 1 or 2 places out either way. But beware, you lose 5 points for being wrong by more than 5 places either way;

2) Select the Premier League manager you think will be first to leave their current job for whatever reason. 5 points on offer;

3) Select your Premier League top scorer. 5 points;

Here are my selections:

For the purposes of our game on the board here, you will have up until the end of the month to modify any predictions at which point the thread will be locked. Should be interesting to see who comes out on top at the end of the season

If we have a tie then, the two leaders will make a prediction regarding the identity of the World Cup semifinalists as a tiebreaker

Here are mine (I haven't given this much real though, so expect them to change)

Premier League table:

1 Chelsea
2 Man Utd
3 Liverpool
4 Man City
5 Arsenal
6 Spurs
7 Aston Villa
8 Everton
9 West Ham
10 Fulham
11 Blackburn
12 Stoke
13 Sunderland
14 Wigan
15 Bolton
16 Portsmouth
17 Wolves
18 Hull
19 Birmingham
20 Burnley

First Premier League manager to leave his job: Paul Hart (Portsmouth)
Premier League top scorer: Wayne Rooney
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: MEP on August 14, 2009, 09:43:57 PM
I actually have we coming in second too.....

Champions League Final will be Man U v Inter...

Altidore will score on debut....

Scotland will score 14 goals in de EPL

Real Madrid will implode and come in second

I will end up in the top 10 in the Andre Samuel League

Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: giggsy11 on August 15, 2009, 09:23:22 AM
United to win and everybody after. Rio's continued back problems is a worry and I still feel the team is not strong enough in midfield. I don't want too hear any sh!te from Fergie later in the season about underestimating the need to strengthen the mid.

City have serious licks to get, they can't defend, when Toure is your best defender, you are in trouble.

Tevez will start moaning about not starting by round 5 of the fixtures.

Ade will quit playing hard before the game against Blackburn ends.

Wigan will surprise teams and will play some attractive football. Like the new coach Martinez.

Aston Villa will fall back to the pack; their defence is not strong.

The league will continue to feature some of the most unskilled labourours you will ever find in a top league. Cringe factor will still be very high every weekend.

Everton will continue to be the biggest threat for a top 4 place. Love how they play their game and the manager manages.

All the fringe players for Spurs will be charged with drink driving at some time this season.






Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: davidephraim on August 15, 2009, 12:30:58 PM
United to win and everybody after. Rio's continued back problems is a worry and I still feel the team is not strong enough in midfield. I don't want too hear any sh!te from Fergie later in the season about underestimating the need to strengthen the mid.

City have serious licks to get, they can't defend, when Toure is your best defender, you are in trouble.

Tevez will start moaning about not starting by round 5 of the fixtures.

Ade will quit playing hard before the game against Blackburn ends.

Wigan will surprise teams and will play some attractive football. Like the new coach Martinez.

Aston Villa will fall back to the pack; their defence is not strong.

The league will continue to feature some of the most unskilled labourours you will ever find in a top league. Cringe factor will still be very high every weekend.

Everton will continue to be the biggest threat for a top 4 place. Love how they play their game and the manager manages.

All the fringe players for Spurs will be charged with drink driving at some time this season.







So gigsy, yuh think coach Martinez attractive? :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: giggsy11 on August 15, 2009, 02:32:12 PM
United to win and everybody after. Rio's continued back problems is a worry and I still feel the team is not strong enough in midfield. I don't want too hear any sh!te from Fergie later in the season about underestimating the need to strengthen the mid.

City have serious licks to get, they can't defend, when Toure is your best defender, you are in trouble.

Tevez will start moaning about not starting by round 5 of the fixtures.

Ade will quit playing hard before the game against Blackburn ends.

Wigan will surprise teams and will play some attractive football. Like the new coach Martinez.

Aston Villa will fall back to the pack; their defence is not strong.

The league will continue to feature some of the most unskilled labourours you will ever find in a top league. Cringe factor will still be very high every weekend.

Everton will continue to be the biggest threat for a top 4 place. Love how they play their game and the manager manages.

All the fringe players for Spurs will be charged with drink driving at some time this season.







So gigsy, yuh think coach Martinez attractive? :devil: :devil:

Would you still consider it devilish if I told you that I am a female?  :devil: :devil: :beermug:
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: ckhan on August 16, 2009, 08:40:46 AM
Sunderland in de top half - Wigan will play football and surprise ppl - Gunners, Man U, Chelsea and Man City Liverpool ( that was a typo).. ::)...in dat order..  :beermug:
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: DeSoWa on August 16, 2009, 09:13:54 AM
Premier League table:

1 Arsenal
2 Chelsea
3 Liverpool
4 Man City
5 Man Utd
6 Spurs
7 Aston Villa
8 Wigan
9 West Ham
10 Sunderland
11 Everton
12 Stoke
13 Fulham
14 Blackburn
15 Bolton
16 Birmingham
17 Wolves
18 Hull
19 Portsmouth
20 Burnley

First Premier League manager to leave his job: Gary Megson (Bolton)
Premier League top scorer: Drogba


Big Up!
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: capodetutticapi on August 16, 2009, 08:42:24 PM
KJ will score more than scotty.
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: jaden on August 17, 2009, 03:52:42 PM
1 Man U
2 Chelsea
3 Arsenal
4 Man City
5 Liverpool
6 Spurs
7 Fulham
8 Sunderland
9 West Ham
10 Aston Villa
11 Everton
12 Wigan
13 Stoke
14 Blackburn
15 Hull
16 Portsmouth
17 Birmingham
18 Wolves
19 Bolton
20 Burnley

Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: Midknight on August 21, 2009, 06:07:46 AM
So post alyuh predictions properly nah dread...
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: Ngozi on August 21, 2009, 06:11:13 AM
Arsenal to win it   .....Sunderland to finish in the top half Wigan bottom half both should stay up!
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: injunchile on August 21, 2009, 06:47:33 AM
Chelsea

Manunited

Arsenal

Liverpool

ManCity

Spurs

Fulham

Westham

Sunderland

Astonvilla

Everton

Wigan

Blackburn

Stoke

Portsmoth

Hull

Birmingham

Bolton

Wolves
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: MarylandTrini on August 21, 2009, 10:50:29 AM
1. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
3. Man Utd
4. Liverpool
5. Man City
6. Everton
7. Aston Villa
8. Spurs
9. Fulham
10. Wigan
11. West ham
12. Sunderland
13. Stoke
14. Blackburn
15. Bolton
16. Birmingham
17. Wolves
18. Hull
19. Portsmouth
20. Burnley
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on August 21, 2009, 02:16:05 PM
1. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
3. Man Utd
4. Liverpool
5. Man City
6. Everton
7. Aston Villa
8. Spurs
9. Fulham
10. Wigan
11. West ham
12. Sunderland
13. Stoke
14. Blackburn
15. Bolton
16. Birmingham
17. Wolves
18. Hull
19. Portsmouth
20. Burnley


BRUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Arsenal 1st meh boy, yuh serious?
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: MEP on August 23, 2009, 01:59:48 PM
I actually have we coming in second too.....

Champions League Final will be Man U v Inter...

Altidore will score on debut....

Scotland will score 14 goals in de EPL

Real Madrid will implode and come in second

I will end up in the top 10 in the Andre Samuel League



 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: DeSoWa on May 09, 2010, 12:30:34 PM
Premier League table:

1 Arsenal
2 Chelsea
3 Liverpool
4 Man City
5 Man Utd
6 Spurs
7 Aston Villa
8 Wigan
9 West Ham
10 Sunderland
11 Everton
12 Stoke
13 Fulham
14 Blackburn
15 Bolton
16 Birmingham
17 Wolves
18 Hull
19 Portsmouth
20 Burnley

First Premier League manager to leave his job: Gary Megson (Bolton)
Premier League top scorer: Drogba  :beermug:


Big Up!


1   Chelsea 38 27 5 6 103 32  17 1 1 68 14  10 4 5 35 18  71 86
2   Manchester United 38 27 4 7 86 28  16 1 2 52 12  11 3 5 34 16  58 85
3   Arsenal 38 23 6 9 83 41  15 2 2 48 15  8 4 7 35 26  42 75
4   Tottenham Hotspur 38 21 7 10 67 41  14 2 3 40 12  7 5 7 27 29  26 70
5   Manchester City 38 18 13 7 73 45  12 4 3 41 20  6 9 4 32 25  28 67
6   Aston Villa 38 17 13 8 52 39  8 8 3 29 16  9 5 5 23 23  13 64
7   Liverpool 38 18 9 11 61 35  13 3 3 43 15  5 6 8 18 20  26 63
8   Everton 38 16 13 9 60 49  11 6 2 35 21  5 7 7 25 28  11 61
9   Birmingham 38 13 11 14 38 47  8 9 2 19 13  5 2 12 19 34  -9 50
10   Blackburn Rovers 38 13 11 14 41 55  10 6 3 28 18  3 5 11 13 37  -14 50
11   Stoke City 38 11 14 13 34 48  7 6 6 24 21  4 8 7 10 27  -14 47
12   Fulham 38 12 10 16 39 46  11 3 5 27 15  1 7 11 12 31  -7 46
13   Sunderland 38 11 11 16 48 56  9 7 3 32 19  2 4 13 16 37  -8 44
14   Bolton Wanderers 38 10 9 19 42 67  6 6 7 26 31  4 3 12 16 36  -25 39
15   Wolverhampton Wanderers 38 9 11 18 32 56  5 6 8 13 22  4 5 10 19 34  -24 38
16   Wigan Athletic 38 9 9 20 37 79  6 7 6 19 24  3 2 14 18 55  -42 36
17   West Ham United 38 8 11 19 47 66  7 5 7 30 29  1 6 12 17 37  -19 35
18  Burnley 38 8 6 24 42 82  7 5 7 25 30  1 1 17 17 52  -40 30
19  Hull City 38 6 12 20 34 75  6 6 7 22 29  0 6 13 12 46  -41 30
20   Portsmouth 38 7 7 24 34 66  5 3 11 24 32  2 4 13 10 34  -32 28

Not too shappy...top was a little off  :D but bottom 3 was on point more or less  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: EPL Season prediction thread
Post by: D.H.W on May 09, 2010, 12:31:35 PM
1. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
3. Man Utd
4. Liverpool
5. Man City
6. Everton
7. Aston Villa
8. Spurs
9. Fulham
10. Wigan
11. West ham
12. Sunderland
13. Stoke
14. Blackburn
15. Bolton
16. Birmingham
17. Wolves
18. Hull
19. Portsmouth
20. Burnley

lol good joke  :devil:
Title: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 12, 2010, 12:04:33 PM
Mods if there's already another feel free to merge.   Fixtures... game discussions... highlights... scores.

The new season kicks off with great news for fans here in the US (and Canada, but they doh really count  :D ) as FOX has finally kicked off it's HD broadcasts in full with the launch of the FSC HD channel (619 on DirecTV as of August 11, 2010) to compliment their regular FSC Channel and new Fox Sports Premium (FSP) Channel.

In addition, ESPN has officially confirmed that they have reached an agreement with Fox Sports International to license a number of Premier League games on US television and multimedia for the next three seasons (2010-11 through 2012-13). This three-year sublicense includes up to 74 live matches each season on ESPN2, ESPN Deportes, ESPN3.com and ESPN Mobile TV.

Both of these developments come as great news to North American fans of the beautiful game, and along with GolTV launch this summer of their own HD broadcasts of La Liga and Serie A games, this promises to be and exciting season for fans watching at home or on the net.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 12, 2010, 12:29:14 PM
This week's TV schedule:


Saturday, August 14th


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif) Aston Villa vs. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7a/f3/0,,12306~3339130,00.gif) West Ham United at 10 am

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif) Chelsea vs. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/77/92/0,,12306~8819319,00.gif) West Bromwich Albion at 12:30 pm

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/67/f3/0,,12306~3339111,00.gif) Bolton Wanderers vs. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6c/f3/0,,12306~3339116,00.gif) Fulham at 2:30 pm




Sunday, August 15th


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif) Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif) Arsenal at 11 am
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: truetrini on August 12, 2010, 12:34:18 PM
nice...thanks
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 12, 2010, 12:48:30 PM
nice...thanks

 :beermug:


Forgot to mention that all the games above are on FSC... ESPN hasn't rolled out their TV schedule yet, but games can be streamed online at ESPN3.com beginning on Saturday with:


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/79/f3/0,,12306~3339129,00.gif) Tottenham Hotspurs vs. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif) Manchester City at 7:30 am
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Andre on August 12, 2010, 01:44:42 PM
espn august tv schedule release.

games on espn3.com so we could check them from work if we dare.

http://footballfashion.org/wordpress/2010/08/12/espn-english-premier-league-u-s-august-2010-broadcast-schedule/

Date   Time (ET)   Network   Fixture
Sat., Aug. 14   7:30 a.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Tottenham Hotspur vs. Manchester City
Mon., Aug. 16   3 p.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Manchester United vs. Newcastle United
Sat., Aug. 21   10 a.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Arsenal vs. Blackpool
Mon., Aug. 23   3 p.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Manchester City vs. Liverpool
Sat., Aug. 28   7:30 a.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Blackburn vs. Arsenal
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 12, 2010, 02:01:19 PM
espn august tv schedule release.

games on espn3.com so we could check them from work if we dare.

http://footballfashion.org/wordpress/2010/08/12/espn-english-premier-league-u-s-august-2010-broadcast-schedule/

Date   Time (ET)   Network   Fixture
Sat., Aug. 14   7:30 a.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Tottenham Hotspur vs. Manchester CityMon., Aug. 16   3 p.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Manchester United vs. Newcastle United
Sat., Aug. 21   10 a.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Arsenal vs. Blackpool
Mon., Aug. 23   3 p.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Manchester City vs. Liverpool
Sat., Aug. 28   7:30 a.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Blackburn vs. Arsenal

Nice... ah thought I heard them say last night the game woulda be on ESPN2 as well, but when I checked the site today I didn't see it scheduled, only on ESPN3.com. 

Looks like it's shaping up to be yet another lazy football weekend  :beermug:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Sam on August 14, 2010, 06:06:29 AM
Man City have a big side, lets see how well they will do.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on August 14, 2010, 06:30:36 AM
Man City have a big side, lets see how well they will do.

They being peppered by Spurs. No attack for City.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on August 14, 2010, 06:36:09 AM
Spurs run them rugged in the first 30 min...City finally settled down and evened the game out...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: MEP on August 14, 2010, 06:52:28 AM
Bakes yuh sound like a PR man dey breds....bess yuh start throwin in some green verbs an yuh could be in line for a TTFF job :)
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: 2cents on August 14, 2010, 06:54:43 AM
Highly suprised Joe Hart get pick over Given...i rate Given top 5 in the world. Hart did pull off some great saves i must say, but wow...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 07:08:38 AM
Bakes yuh sound like a PR man dey breds....bess yuh start throwin in some green verbs an yuh could be in line for a TTFF job :)

Lol@ 'green verbs'... ent?


Heckuva start to the season though... Spurs played absolutely out of their minds in the first half.  Gareth Bale was giving Micah Richards and everybody else who tried to cover him fits.  Assou-Ekotto was doing everything else on that left side for Spurs... tracking back, winning balls, starting the attack.  He made some nice distributive passes in the first half.  Even fatboy Tom look like he slim down some, or toned up instead.

All that said and they have nutten to show for it, in part due to excellent keeping from Hart, in part just from pure hard luck. Everywhere this man has been he's been an incredible shot-stopper, not sure what's been holding him back from becoming a Number One.  City still in it though and come back out with a purpose in the second... could only imagine what this team will look like now that Balotelli finally signed his contract with them.

Kompany and DeJong have to be the most rugged tandem in the EPL boy... everything is a hard kick or ah shoulder pong off de ball.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 07:24:42 AM
'arry bringing out the big guns for the second half...

Pavlyuchenko on for Defoe

Keane replaces Crouch

Gio on for Aaron Lennon

... let's see if any of that will make a difference for Spurs.

Adam Johnson replaced Wright-Phillips for City and had a 5-minute burst of activity but he's kinda disappeared the last 10 mins or so.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: MEP on August 14, 2010, 07:31:32 AM
City is ah lucky team don't know how Spurs eh score yet....I can't see all those big names for City sitting on the bench and being happy...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on August 14, 2010, 07:35:17 AM
Spurs can't buy a goal today...

They are good side on the run- They look as good as any team in England (I imagine) going forward....not sure if they have the defensive depth to win titles though

Glad to see Dos Santos back in the top flight. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on August 14, 2010, 07:36:52 AM

Kompany and DeJong have to be the most rugged tandem in the EPL boy... everything is a hard kick or ah shoulder pong off de ball.

Yeah dem two red men eh business at all...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 07:43:49 AM
Have to be a disappointing draw for Spurs... Bale showed that his right foot juss dey tuh help keep him upright.  To be fair he was Spurs most dangerous player today and should have been awarded a first half penalty when Richards shoved him in the box.  EPL refs really need to clean up the English game because it becomes an absolute liability to the national squad in international play... and perhaps more importantly, for all EPL players, it really affects their ability to stay healthy over the 9-month English season.

City lucky... did well... to escape with a point, they didn't really play any kind of inspired ball and the only man really earning he keep today was Hart, with high honorable mention to DeJong and Kompany in that order.  David Silva was an absolute waste in my opinion... and MEP I agree, how the hell Mancini supposed to keep all dem men happy?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: mukumsplau on August 14, 2010, 08:01:22 AM
i hope scotty get ah run an buss like 2 goals...i relly wanna see him in prem dis year
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dinho on August 14, 2010, 08:14:57 AM
Hart is a beast.. Shoulda been starting in South Africa.

Kolarov and Silva... Welcome to the EPL with all them hard tackle and jam allyuh collect today.

This Man City side will take some time to get up to speed as most of their players don't have enough EPL pedigree. Spurs looking good though and playing with pace and invention.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 08:19:42 AM
Meanwhile, when did Avram Grant morph into an EPL manager??  De man get ah bligh at Chelsea and all ah sudden he part of the old boys club.  I somehow missed him replacing Zola at West Ham at the end of the season.  I liked Zola's brand of attacking football, but apparently the higher ups didn't and decided tuh take a flyer on Grant... who in all fairness had Portsmouth playing good ball right up thru relegation.

As for today's game... West Ham looking lost up at Villa Park, Villa playing all over them and not surprisingly have the early lead thanks to Stuart Downing, and shaky keeping by Robert Green.  Dis man go soon be known as Calamity Bob for some of his gaffes... this one maybe not that glaring though.

--------------

EDIT:  As I say that off course he pulls off a superb save off Ashley Young's lob attempt.

He keeping we on we toes, apparently.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 14, 2010, 08:44:13 AM
Blackpool beating the hell out of Wigan.

3-0 in the 43rd
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 08:49:34 AM
Blackpool beating the hell out of Wigan.

3-0 in the 43rd

Damn... you serious??

wth



Meanwhile not much going on in the Claret and Blue derby... a Stilian Petrov header has Villa up 2-0 on a hapless and clueless West Ham side.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 14, 2010, 08:53:20 AM
Blackpool beating the hell out of Wigan.

3-0 in the 43rd

Damn... you serious??

Nah, I joking. they ent beating them down, they beating them up!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: nunu on August 14, 2010, 08:55:24 AM
stoke city fc in di relegation zone already lol ! dem will lucky fi finish 17th , ah bouy !  :frustrated:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 09:03:21 AM
stoke city fc in di relegation zone already lol ! dem will lucky fi finish 17th , ah bouy !  :frustrated:

In now checking de scenes in dah one... Wolves are decent defensive squad though.  Hard luck injury for KJ.  How allyuh boy Fuller doing so far?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: nunu on August 14, 2010, 09:21:03 AM
stoke city fc in di relegation zone already lol ! dem will lucky fi finish 17th , ah bouy !  :frustrated:

In now checking de scenes in dah one... Wolves are decent defensive squad though.  Hard luck injury for KJ.  How allyuh boy Fuller doing so far?

we need to give fuller more ratings , if it was'nt for fuller strong performance maybe tp would'nt
look at kj , I try not to give an opinion on kj because to me he has two left foot .
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 14, 2010, 09:35:54 AM
4-0 Blackpool

Top of the table!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: PantherX on August 14, 2010, 09:46:55 AM
 Martinez will be lucky to have a job by Christmas.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: triniairman on August 14, 2010, 10:07:21 AM
Martinez will be lucky to have a job by Christmas.
I was just telling meh cousin that he would be the first manager to get the axe this season.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: chelsealife on August 14, 2010, 10:12:27 AM
Martinez will be lucky to have a job by Christmas.
I was just telling meh cousin that he would be the first manager to get the axe this season.
Wigan will be relegated by Christmas. If Marlon Harewood could get two goals against Wigan then something seriously wrong.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on August 14, 2010, 10:13:31 AM
Have to be a disappointing draw for Spurs... Bale showed that his right foot juss dey tuh help keep him upright.  To be fair he was Spurs most dangerous player today and should have been awarded a first half penalty when Richards shoved him in the box.  EPL refs really need to clean up the English game because it becomes an absolute liability to the national squad in international play... and perhaps more importantly, for all EPL players, it really affects their ability to stay healthy over the 9-month English season.

City lucky... did well... to escape with a point, they didn't really play any kind of inspired ball and the only man really earning he keep today was Hart, with high honorable mention to DeJong and Kompany in that order.  David Silva was an absolute waste in my opinion... and MEP I agree, how the hell Mancini supposed to keep all dem men happy?

Huddlestone was MOM in my opinion...amazing technique and distribution. 

Hart MOM for City. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 11:55:21 AM
Huddlestone was MOM in my opinion...amazing technique and distribution. 

Hart MOM for City. 

Maybe I was too transfixed by all the activity along the left side... but I didn't see Huddlestone having much of a role in the game, and I'm a huge fan too  :-\.




Meanwhile... Chelsea raping WBA 4-0 Malouda, Drogba with a brace and Lampard.

Yossi on in his debut... yuck.


----------------------


EDIT: 5-0 Chelsea

Drogba with the hat trick.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 15, 2010, 09:15:40 AM
Liverpool vs. Arsenal live on FSC right now, in glorious HD of course, lol.


0-0 after 10'.  Very entertaining game even though neither team has teally settled down yet.  The new Liverpool players look good so far, especially Jovanovic.  The ugly "Standard Chartered" across the front of the Liverpool strip actually starting to grow on mih.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on August 15, 2010, 09:51:43 AM
red card for joe cole
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 15, 2010, 09:53:43 AM
Final minute drama... Martin Atkinson shows Joe Cole a harsh red after letting all kinda wildness go in the first half.  It was a rash tackle by Cole, probably deserving of a yellow and not a straight red, but either way, not the way that Hodgson would have wanted to start the season, down a man to a top-class opponent with a whole half still to be played.  Even worse for Cole, it an ignominous start to his Anfield tenure as not only the team penalized by having to play a man down... but he faces an immediate 3-match ban to start the season.

As a Liverpool fan I can't complain too much, but still think the straight red was harsh.

Still scoreless at the half.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Touches on August 15, 2010, 09:59:12 AM
Bakes,

Yuh see d rip diaby hit a man tru he leg...and eboue rip on the line.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 15, 2010, 10:16:31 AM
Bakes,

Yuh see d rip diaby hit a man tru he leg...and eboue rip on the line.



First half?  Nah ah miss it.  Eboue looking real nice fuh allyuh doh, not really threatening, but good skill and composure in possession.

Ah also miss the goal... decide to use the break to go take a quick shower after the gym this morning, come back and Liverpool up 1-0 in the 53'

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Just saw the goal, Arsenal disposessed in their own third after trying to make one too many passes rather than clearing.  Ngog picked it up and beat Almunia short-side top corner... almost Landon Donovan-esque, I hate to say.


Touches, how yuh like dat breed Kuyt rest on Clichy? lol
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Touches on August 15, 2010, 10:33:46 AM
it was stink>>>plus he hit him a cyap before
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 15, 2010, 10:43:51 AM
Liverpool down to 9 men for now... Agger looks like he suffered a concussion.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 15, 2010, 10:52:12 AM
Liverpool scrambling for the final few minutes... Agger in a mess.  Liverpool send him back in, but he actually just taking up space on the field... they have Maxi playing left back.  Arsenal threatening with every possession.  First Reina had to make an incredible fingertip save off a nice play by Rosicky.

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As I type Arsenal equalized.... own goal off Reina.  Hard luck play... he fumbled it into the goal but his momentum going back into goal made him think more about the play that he probably should have.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: rotatopoti3 on August 15, 2010, 11:01:42 AM
i goe settle for d 1-1 draw...Liverpool show alot of character today.... :applause:

keep it up fellas...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Ngozi on August 15, 2010, 11:26:25 AM
Phew Arsenal came back and grabbed the draw not less than they deserved ... despite having better possession offensively they didn't assert themselves enough.
Despite the goal conceded I felt they looked solid defensively although Clichy get "seductively abused"  on a few.
Diaby continues to boggle the mind ... nice touches then gives away the ball with his next pass almost methodically.
Rosicky came on and did some nice things always liked him as a player glad he is finally fit.

Walcott ... walcott, walcott lol one of these days his game will come in sync with his speed and on that fateful day it will be hell to pay against him ....Arsene will bring him along well.

The new defender Koschelsky .. (couldn't spell it)  ... I thought he looked good he was unlucky to be sent off I felt that handball was more accidental more a reflex and it end up hitting his hand but the truth be told I always measure defenders in this league when they had a dose of Drogba in they ass for 90 mins or Rooney before I grade em..... can't rate him against a half fit Torres ... inconclusive.

Nasri looked sharp!

Almunia maintains his crappy disdain for cross balls and goalkeeping in general .... hope they get Shwarzer


Lots of optimism especially since this was definitely not Arsenal's strongest team ... with the exception of Torres this Liverpool team won't get much stronger but they're battling ...pleased to see that kinda spirit.
Arsenal  still have Fabregas, RVP, Song to start and although I'm saying this tentatively I feel they will get the Fulham keeper  Shwarzer and alsooooo I feel Clichy could end up losing his place to Gibbs.

That's it in a nutshell por ahora!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 15, 2010, 05:28:10 PM
Game Week 1 closes with League runners-up (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/72/f3/0,,12306~3339122,00.gif) Manchester United welcoming newly-promoted (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/76/92/0,,12306~8819318,00.gif)New Castle United back to the top-flight.

The game kicks off tomorrow (Monday, August 16th) at 3 pm ESTon ESPN2.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Midknight on August 15, 2010, 07:45:21 PM
anyone know why Fabregas miss the match  ???
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 15, 2010, 08:11:30 PM
anyone know why Fabregas miss the match  ???

Supposedly lacking match-fitness.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Ngozi on August 15, 2010, 08:24:32 PM
Fabregas had a chest infection as well.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on August 15, 2010, 10:18:37 PM
Liverpool's kit look like it made from polyester! Arshavin already declared him self unfit and hurt before the season started.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Marcos on August 16, 2010, 09:28:19 AM
David Silva was an absolute waste in my opinion...

Nah boy. He was one of the hardest workers on the field and he run non-stop. He just seemed to be on a diff wavelength from everybody else.
I still eh know what shape Mancini was using. The team could benefit from a little bit more structure
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 16, 2010, 03:55:12 PM
Chris Hughton will have a very hard time getting positive results out of this New Castle squad... they were totally outclassed by ManU today.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 11:43:48 AM
Chris Hughton will have a very hard time getting positive results out of this New Castle squad... they were totally outclassed by ManU today.

I say that and they rebound nicely with a shocking 6-0 romp over top 4 aspirants, Villa.


Today- ESPN2 at 3pm

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif) Liverpool takes on high-flying (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif) Manchester City in a key early match for both clubs.

James Milner is likely to make his debut for City, and new boy Mario Balotelli is likely to feature prominently as well.

For Liverpool, Joe Cole begins his three-match ban for picking up a red last week versus Arsenal, while Christian Poulsen will be pushing for his debut.  Daniel Agger (concussion) is also unlikely to feature, though he has not been ruled out, and Javier Mascherano (calf) is also questionable.  Fernando Torres and a rested Steven Gerrard are likely to take the field for the Reds however.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 01:20:23 PM
Barry from Milner, 1-0 City in the 13'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on August 23, 2010, 01:33:46 PM
city looking good
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dinho on August 23, 2010, 01:35:54 PM
city looking good

the smallie sitting down in the stands next to balotelli too..
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on August 23, 2010, 01:41:49 PM
city looking good

the smallie sitting down in the stands next to balotelli too..

 :devil: ent
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 01:52:15 PM
Very poor, uninspired play by Liverpool in the first half... lucky to be only down 1-0.  Not because City has threatened but more because Liverpool just hasn't shown up.  Torres looks a shell of himself, Gerrard is playing too deep to make a difference, I'm sure covering for the missing Javier Mascherano ("not in the right frame of mind" to play says Hodgson, read into that what you will).  Ngog hasn't done anything, nor has Jovanovic... but singling any one player out will be misleading since the entire squad has been poor.

Meanwhile on defense they giving City all kinda space... Adam Johnson in particular, good player, but he's always going to cut inside on his left foot.  If he surprises you and takes the flank on his weaker right then so be it.  Nobody seems to have figured him out yet.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 02:18:33 PM
2-0 City... Micah Richards in the 53'... even though Tevez trying to claim the goal.  Unassertive keeping by Reina.


Meanwhile Joe Hart just push Given further down on the bench... three terrific close up saves against Kuyt, Gerrard and then Torres in rapid succession.


EDIT:

3-0 Tevez with a 68' minute penalty after Adam Johnson sold a penalty dive on the witless and absolutely inept Phil Dowd.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on August 23, 2010, 02:29:46 PM
3-0
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 23, 2010, 02:34:02 PM
Whey sah! Torres had Richards breakdancing yes.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 03:00:43 PM
Whey sah! Torres had Richards breakdancing yes.  :rotfl:

...about the only highlight in the game coming from Liverpool.  They might as well have saved the match fees and juss send the kit man and ballboys to play City today.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on August 23, 2010, 09:03:16 PM
Citeh will continue to pull stones wit all dem  overrated Englishmen gettin run! Johnson, Barry, Milner, Richards. Lescott. Only Hart decent. If Ballotelli and he ugly arse could pull dat well yuh know is not about the looks!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Midknight on August 23, 2010, 10:03:32 PM
Citeh will continue to pull stones wit all dem  overrated Englishmen gettin run! Johnson, Barry, Milner, Richards. Lescott. Only Hart decent. If Ballotelli and he ugly arse could pull dat well yuh know is not about the looks!

all of a sudden having englishmen in a english side is a crime...
lol
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Midknight on August 23, 2010, 10:05:16 PM
2-0 City... Micah Richards in the 53'... even though Tevez trying to claim the goal.  Unassertive keeping by Reina.


Meanwhile Joe Hart just push Given further down on the bench... three terrific close up saves against Kuyt, Gerrard and then Torres in rapid succession.


EDIT:

3-0 Tevez with a 68' minute penalty after Adam Johnson sold a penalty dive on the witless and absolutely inept Phil Dowd.

He was already off balance after riding the first tackle and the second liverpool defender cleared his leg out from under him. Not saying Dowd is the best referee in the Prem, but straightforward penalty for me.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 10:51:19 PM
2-0 City... Micah Richards in the 53'... even though Tevez trying to claim the goal.  Unassertive keeping by Reina.


Meanwhile Joe Hart just push Given further down on the bench... three terrific close up saves against Kuyt, Gerrard and then Torres in rapid succession.


EDIT:

3-0 Tevez with a 68' minute penalty after Adam Johnson sold a penalty dive on the witless and absolutely inept Phil Dowd.

He was already off balance after riding the first tackle and the second liverpool defender cleared his leg out from under him. Not saying Dowd is the best referee in the Prem, but straightforward penalty for me.

If you watch again as Skrtel challenged, Johnson dragged both feet to initiate the contact with skrtel's right foot.  Not saying that he had an obligation to hurdle him (which would not have been difficult), but he definitely took advantage of the opportunity to win a penalty for his club... aka he sold the dive well.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dinho on August 24, 2010, 08:06:26 AM
Lol, that was a stonewall penalty.. You have to be the only man arguing that.

In a play like that is who get the first toe to the ball win.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 24, 2010, 08:24:03 AM
Lol, that was a stonewall penalty.. You have to be the only man arguing that.

In a play like that is who get the first toe to the ball win.

I must be "the only man arguing" what? 

Do you see me arguing that it was not a penalty? My only contention is that it was a dive, which is to say the contact isn't what made him go down, but rather that he initiated contact and dove.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: spideybuff on August 24, 2010, 08:33:31 AM
Chris Hughton will have a very hard time getting positive results out of this New Castle squad... they were totally outclassed by ManU today.

U act like ManU at Old Trafford is an easy game for any side in the world. Only Chelsea, Barca, Real and Inter will probably not get outclassed there. Every other side in the world will have to be at their best and still hope
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on August 24, 2010, 01:22:29 PM
Citeh will continue to pull stones wit all dem  overrated Englishmen gettin run! Johnson, Barry, Milner, Richards. Lescott. Only Hart decent. If Ballotelli and he ugly arse could pull dat well yuh know is not about the looks!

all of a sudden having englishmen in a english side is a crime...
lol

All of a sudden for whom?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 28, 2010, 09:54:13 AM
Incredible game between Wigan and Spurs... Wigan just went ahead 1-0 in the 81', but really should have scored two more goals.  In the 11' Gohouri received a nodded down ball in the box and took it on the half volley, hitting the underside of the bar and out.  Really unfortunate not to score from essentially point blank on what would have been a difficult, yet superb strike.

Then in the latter stages of the game Rodallega served up Alcaraz on a platter... and STUNNINGLY de man miss from point blank range with Cudicini and the Spurs defense completely at sea.  Literally seconds later Rodallega from the right side again set the table on a sweet cross to Gomez I think it was.  It would have been a tough finish under any circumstances, but Gomez to his credit stretched every inch of his frame to put a left footed touch on the ball towards goal.  He just couldn't keep it down.

Literally seconds after that... at this point 45 seconds to a minute after Alcaraz throw' way, Wigan had a third bite of the apple, this time Rodellaga decide to dispense with passing to the shithongs in the box, lol... and kept it for himself, placing a low shot from the right side, across the face of the defense and into the far left side netting.  Cudicini should have saved it though (no doubt Gomes starting next week), allowing it to slip under his hand.

Al-Habsi (never even heard of him before) pull off a stunning set of saves to help preserve the clean sheet. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Midknight on August 28, 2010, 10:11:27 AM
Citeh will continue to pull stones wit all dem  overrated Englishmen gettin run! Johnson, Barry, Milner, Richards. Lescott. Only Hart decent. If Ballotelli and he ugly arse could pull dat well yuh know is not about the looks!

all of a sudden having englishmen in a english side is a crime...
lol

All of a sudden for whom?

nah...i just remember when many people used to be on Wenger case for his Francenal policy....doh mind me
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on August 29, 2010, 07:10:40 PM
It doesn't look like Silva will be eatin a lot of bench this seasont; mancini favors defensive football  and will chose a midfield to suit.
 
I don't think Hughes is a Dempsey fan and he may be gettin subbed a lot.

Howard's gaffe appeared to set the table for Everton.

I could have told Lord Wrigley that Nani likes the right side and Valencia can only play on the right side. And we still don't have a natural left winger besides Giggsy.

Arsenal will once again fade tuh black due to injuries to their brittle little men.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on August 30, 2010, 08:32:54 AM
I see Jussi went mad and hit Johnson from Birmingham a slap.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Q-Toa3USgyw
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Andre on August 30, 2010, 12:51:07 PM
must see video. harry rednapp cuss up journalists.

http://www.youtube.com/v/xJBsI7RAuvk
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 17, 2010, 10:29:19 AM
(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/73/92/0,,12306~8819315,00.gif) Blackpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif) Manchester City on FSC right now... 0-0 in the 64'. 

Blackpool playing terrific football so far, seeing them for the first time it is understandable why they've achieved the results they have, the 4 goals at Chelsea notwithstanding.  They've conceded the most away goals in the EPL (15 from what the commentators state), but at home they are terrific.  Hardly a note from City and its bloated payroll.


Lol... and as I type, Tevez with a neat touch to put City up 1-0, TOTALLY against the run of play.


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EDIT:  Turn mih back for 5 mins and two more goal score.  Blackpool equalized (don't know the goalscorer) and then Tevez on the spot again to put City back up.

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2-1 City in the 83'

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3-2 City is the final.  Tevez (69', 84'), Silva (90') for City

Harewood (83'), Taylor-Fletcher (90') for Blackpool
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on October 17, 2010, 05:53:03 PM
Why did neither Toure make the team sheet for Man Shitty today?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on October 30, 2010, 12:24:07 PM
Like the Man United thread deleted.


Tell me the refs don't cheat for Man United. Blatant, blatant, the ref tell the lines mans to put he flag down is ah goal. Nani dive first off, and then sit down and holding the ball with he hand. There is no way the ref and the lines man could have missed it.

Cheats, thats the only way Man United winning. So much for the respect of the game from Fergusson. That is blatant cheating.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dinho on October 30, 2010, 12:27:48 PM
Like the Man United thread deleted.


Tell me the refs don't cheat for Man United. Blatant, blatant, the ref tell the lines mans to put he flag down is ah goal. Nani dive first off, and then sit down and holding the ball with he hand. There is no way the ref and the lines man could have missed it.

Cheats, thats the only way Man United winning. So much for the respect of the game from Fergusson. That is blatant cheating.

Blatant as it comes.

The linesman raise his flag. The ref was supposed to call back the play for the hands. He missed it but the linesman raised his flag to call for it and the ref overruled. Utter madness.

I could understand if the lines had not called for it and the ref decided to play advantage and no whistle blow but that is not what happened.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 30, 2010, 12:53:23 PM
Like the Man United thread deleted.


Tell me the refs don't cheat for Man United. Blatant, blatant, the ref tell the lines mans to put he flag down is ah goal. Nani dive first off, and then sit down and holding the ball with he hand. There is no way the ref and the lines man could have missed it.

Cheats, thats the only way Man United winning. So much for the respect of the game from Fergusson. That is blatant cheating.

Blatant as it comes.

The linesman raise his flag. The ref was supposed to call back the play for the hands. He missed it but the linesman raised his flag to call for it and the ref overruled. Utter madness.

I could understand if the lines had not called for it and the ref decided to play advantage and no whistle blow but that is not what happened.



BOTH OF ALLYUH COULD TAKE A BIG f**k YOU


Firstly Nani was fouled...should have been a penalty...He handled the ball to stop play thinking he had won a penalty, looked up realised he didnt get it and lay on the floor...Gomes saw him handle the ball and picked up the ball then dropped it a few yards where the handled ball happened... The lino and the ref NEVER raised a flag or blew a whistle indicating a hand ball... Gomes drop the ball while play was ongoing..Nani quickly scored

GOMES is a c**t...The Referee and Linesman did shit... Nani score

BOOM f**kING BANG

Besides that made it 2-0... we would have still won

f**k BOTH OF YOU..Study your own side... lucky to win at Blackburn today... allyuh pay the ref too?  ::) ::) do you realise how stupid yall sound when you say shit like we paying refs and they blatantly cheating for us... f**kING SHITHONGS

allyuh 5 points ahead and so scared of us??  you see me crying everytime Chelsea get a shit goal and win? 

you better be scared..cuz we f**king coming
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dinho on October 30, 2010, 12:58:08 PM
small man, check yuhself with that language it is not necessary.

i will only say that once.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 30, 2010, 01:11:40 PM
small man, check yuhself with that language it is not necessary.

i will only say that once.

check yourself with the shit you talking then....

I only saying that once

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 30, 2010, 01:59:31 PM
BOTH OF ALLYUH COULD TAKE A BIG f**k YOU


Firstly Nani was fouled...should have been a penalty...He handled the ball to stop play thinking he had won a penalty, looked up realised he didnt get it and lay on the floor...Gomes saw him handle the ball and picked up the ball then dropped it a few yards where the handled ball happened... The lino and the ref NEVER raised a flag or blew a whistle indicating a hand ball... Gomes drop the ball while play was ongoing..Nani quickly scored

GOMES is a c**t...The Referee and Linesman did shit... Nani score

BOOM f**kING BANG

Besides that made it 2-0... we would have still won

f**k BOTH OF YOU..Study your own side... lucky to win at Blackburn today... allyuh pay the ref too?  ::) ::) do you realise how stupid yall sound when you say shit like we paying refs and they blatantly cheating for us... f**kING SHITHONGS

allyuh 5 points ahead and so scared of us??  you see me crying everytime Chelsea get a shit goal and win? 

you better be scared..cuz we f**king coming


The linesman DID raise his flag... which is why Clattenburg went over to him.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on October 30, 2010, 02:13:55 PM
Like the Man United thread deleted.


Tell me the refs don't cheat for Man United. Blatant, blatant, the ref tell the lines mans to put he flag down is ah goal. Nani dive first off, and then sit down and holding the ball with he hand. There is no way the ref and the lines man could have missed it.

Cheats, thats the only way Man United winning. So much for the respect of the game from Fergusson. That is blatant cheating.

Blatant as it comes.

The linesman raise his flag. The ref was supposed to call back the play for the hands. He missed it but the linesman raised his flag to call for it and the ref overruled. Utter madness.

I could understand if the lines had not called for it and the ref decided to play advantage and no whistle blow but that is not what happened.



BOTH OF ALLYUH COULD TAKE A BIG f**k YOU


Firstly Nani was fouled...should have been a penalty...He handled the ball to stop play thinking he had won a penalty, looked up realised he didnt get it and lay on the floor...Gomes saw him handle the ball and picked up the ball then dropped it a few yards where the handled ball happened... The lino and the ref NEVER raised a flag or blew a whistle indicating a hand ball... Gomes drop the ball while play was ongoing..Nani quickly scored

GOMES is a c**t...The Referee and Linesman did shit... Nani score

BOOM f**kING BANG

Besides that made it 2-0... we would have still won

f**k BOTH OF YOU..Study your own side... lucky to win at Blackburn today... allyuh pay the ref too?  ::) ::) do you realise how stupid yall sound when you say shit like we paying refs and they blatantly cheating for us... f**kING SHITHONGS

allyuh 5 points ahead and so scared of us??  you see me crying everytime Chelsea get a shit goal and win? 

you better be scared..cuz we f**king coming


The lines man was in utter suprise when the ref told him that the goal stand. You could have seen it on the face of the lines face. Initially the lineman did not raise his flage because he and all was on the same page as the keeper and everyone else. That the hand ball was the call. When low-lifer Nani (who just tried to sell a dive) kick the ball into the net th elinesman immediately raise his flag. He then informed the ref what had transpired. From here what I would like to believe happen was that the ref told the lines that he did not blow his whistle. However, this is where discretion (something sorely lacking from Man United players and fans) comes in on the part of the ref. Once the lines man tell the ref that Nani handle the ball and that is was blatant then the ref should have said are you sure? Then proceed on the linesman decision. The advantage should have gone to the keeper.

To claim that Gomes is an idot is very disungenious and in very poor taste. The keeper knew Nani was behind him. Not all the time the ref blow to stop a game. It is understood in a situation like that that it is a free kick. If Nani had not stop the ball with his hand it was an easy pick up for the keeper or he could have let it out for a Goal kick. It amazes me that many of you can argue this. As been honest and within the fair play rules. Now Nani move smart and put the ref in a tough spot, but to say it was not cheating - I have to question y'all morals.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 30, 2010, 02:20:21 PM
BOTH OF ALLYUH COULD TAKE A BIG f**k YOU


Firstly Nani was fouled...should have been a penalty...He handled the ball to stop play thinking he had won a penalty, looked up realised he didnt get it and lay on the floor...Gomes saw him handle the ball and picked up the ball then dropped it a few yards where the handled ball happened... The lino and the ref NEVER raised a flag or blew a whistle indicating a hand ball... Gomes drop the ball while play was ongoing..Nani quickly scored

GOMES is a c**t...The Referee and Linesman did shit... Nani score

BOOM f**kING BANG

Besides that made it 2-0... we would have still won

f**k BOTH OF YOU..Study your own side... lucky to win at Blackburn today... allyuh pay the ref too?  ::) ::) do you realise how stupid yall sound when you say shit like we paying refs and they blatantly cheating for us... f**kING SHITHONGS

allyuh 5 points ahead and so scared of us??  you see me crying everytime Chelsea get a shit goal and win? 

you better be scared..cuz we f**king coming


The linesman DID raise his flag... which is why Clattenburg went over to him.

he raise his flag about 5 seconds into the celebration.... he only do that because 10 Spurs players raced towards him... too little too late... he didnt see the handball... He probably told Clatteburg what the Spurs players were saying

Only Gomes saw the hand ball
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on October 30, 2010, 02:25:55 PM
BOTH OF ALLYUH COULD TAKE A BIG f**k YOU


Firstly Nani was fouled...should have been a penalty...He handled the ball to stop play thinking he had won a penalty, looked up realised he didnt get it and lay on the floor...Gomes saw him handle the ball and picked up the ball then dropped it a few yards where the handled ball happened... The lino and the ref NEVER raised a flag or blew a whistle indicating a hand ball... Gomes drop the ball while play was ongoing..Nani quickly scored

GOMES is a c**t...The Referee and Linesman did shit... Nani score

BOOM f**kING BANG

Besides that made it 2-0... we would have still won

f**k BOTH OF YOU..Study your own side... lucky to win at Blackburn today... allyuh pay the ref too?  ::) ::) do you realise how stupid yall sound when you say shit like we paying refs and they blatantly cheating for us... f**kING SHITHONGS

allyuh 5 points ahead and so scared of us??  you see me crying everytime Chelsea get a shit goal and win? 

you better be scared..cuz we f**king coming


The linesman DID raise his flag... which is why Clattenburg went over to him.

he raise his flag about 5 seconds into the celebration.... he only do that because 10 Spurs players raced towards him... too little too late... he didnt see the handball... He probably told Clatteburg what the Spurs players were saying

Only Gomes saw the hand ball

everyone saw the hand ball except for Man United. I watched the game on Deportes and the commentator for once had no words. they were in total shock that the goal stood. They show the replay for 5 minutes after.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on October 31, 2010, 11:45:07 AM
Maximilliano Rodriquez finally break the deadlock in the 86'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 31, 2010, 12:13:10 PM
Maximilliano Rodriquez finally break the deadlock in the 86'

I just check the scores and see he score... I clean fuhget he on dat squad, dai'z how dreadful we've been.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on October 31, 2010, 01:16:33 PM
Maximilliano Rodriquez finally break the deadlock in the 86'

I just check the scores and see he score... I clean fuhget he on dat squad, dai'z how dreadful we've been.

The football itself not bad, is the deadliness in front the goal that lacking. Is like no one want to take the responsibility of scoring. Men just keep hand the ball to the next player in front the goal. No one stepping up and saying I will have a go consistently.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 06, 2010, 08:44:07 AM
Spurs and Bolton went at it.


Bolton 4 vs Tottenham 2  FT



Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 06, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
Spurs and Bolton went at it.


Bolton 4 vs Tottenham 2  FT





Good game... Bolton nearly throw it away in the end but they absolutely took Spurs to the woodshed.  Bale musta been tired b/c he eh make ah note all game.  Kevin Davies on the other hand for Bolton... 2 goals and an assist.

Pavyluchencko with an early goal of the year candidate.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on November 06, 2010, 09:57:44 AM
Spurs and Bolton went at it.


Bolton 4 vs Tottenham 2  FT




        Bale eh tired,Bolton was well prepared for him,he not going to have his way with every team.

Good game... Bolton nearly throw it away in the end but they absolutely took Spurs to the woodshed.  Bale musta been tired b/c he eh make ah note all game.  Kevin Davies on the other hand for Bolton... 2 goals and an assist.

Pavyluchencko with an early goal of the year candidate.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 06, 2010, 11:04:20 AM
        Bale eh tired,Bolton was well prepared for him,he not going to have his way with every team.

I was juss being facetious.  I forget what the Bolton RB name is, but for ever move Bale made down that side they had the Korean fella inside providing cover.  People want to skewer Rafa for leaving Maicon "exposed"... ah tort he was de best RB in de world?  All dat and he cyah mark ah no name Welshman?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: PantherX on November 06, 2010, 06:04:50 PM
Spurs and Bolton went at it.


Bolton 4 vs Tottenham 2  FT

I'm not surprised by this result at all.  I think Harry went to defensive at the beginning playing 2 defensive midfielders plus Krancjar on the right wing was out of his element so we lacked balance.  Our defense was incredibly poor today as well.

I felt that when we pulled it back to 3-2 we were going to get a point because they got nervy at that point but that stamp by Huddlestone incensed them and brought them right back at us.

Overall Bolton deserved the 3 points offside first goal notwithstanding.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on November 07, 2010, 09:27:30 AM
Newcastle poison Arsenal.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 07, 2010, 09:40:15 AM
Newcastle were class today...They didnt give Arsenal any room..played 2 lines of 4 and Ameobi and Carroll up with Carroll doing realllll work... he merit an England call up today

Great discipline from Newcastle..Concentration levels were well on

Wenger dont cry! haha
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 07, 2010, 10:49:54 AM
Fantastic Fernando

2-0 Liverpool at the half.....Chelsea look like a pub team
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 07, 2010, 10:53:31 AM
 :heehee: where alyuh Chelsea men now ?  :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 10:53:59 AM
Fantastic Fernando

2-0 Liverpool at the half.....Chelsea look like a pub team


Shhhh, come back in 55mins when dem chelski fans rell feelin it. Plus dey still have poison in the form of Drogba on the bench.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 10:55:28 AM
:heehee: where alyuh Chelsea men now ?  :devil:

Studyin United nah!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 07, 2010, 11:06:06 AM
Torres finally looking healthy.

I say ah running out to reach back in time fuh de game and get hold in some long talk... reach back just in time to see the second strike beore the half.  He make Ivanovic look normal, and Cech like ah backside.  Thanks to Ashley Cole for imitating ah midfield and coughing up de rock.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on November 07, 2010, 11:37:15 AM
Is dem two blight we get rid of.  We finally start to see we way.  And they look like they are getting accustomed to Hudgson's coaching style. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 11:42:09 AM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 07, 2010, 11:47:06 AM
Rena is kicks yes :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 07, 2010, 11:55:16 AM
where d chelsea men? ??? :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: rotatopoti3 on November 07, 2010, 12:02:11 PM
Best game of the season...up to 9th now boys....lets keep rolling

Lucas ah apologize.....yuh prove meh wrong today...boss game


Torres..what can I say.....yuh in ah different league.. top class finish
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 07, 2010, 12:12:26 PM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?

Yeah that's why he's a master of creating chances in tight spaces.


Tenor... I agree, I dunno what Roy plan was but it finally seems to be taking hold.  
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 07, 2010, 12:32:03 PM
We eh hiding like alyuh. I went to church, couldn't be bothered really. See I have faith in my team, don't have to hide during the game and then after 95 minutes  :devil: of playing come out and gloat.

We lose a game, we expect that to be big news as we are not accustomed to losing.

:beermug:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 12:32:58 PM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?

Yeah that's why he's a master of creating chances in tight spaces.


Tenor... I agree, I dunno what Roy plan was but it finally seems to be taking hold.  

In your dreams I am sure. The guy is good at shifting the ball to the side tuh create space but  his way tuh get by a defender is tuh push the ball past them and chase it. He is not good at beatsin a man or two by dribbling past or tru them.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: fari on November 07, 2010, 12:42:17 PM
vex arsenal lost but at least chelsea still within touching distance.   season shaping up nice, no team pulling away yet.

bolton vs spurs was a good game yesterday and all...davies play like a man posessed.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 07, 2010, 12:45:37 PM
We eh hiding like alyuh. I went to church, couldn't be bothered really. See I have faith in my team, don't have to hide during the game and then after 95 minutes  :devil: of playing come out and gloat.

We lose a game, we expect that to be big news as we are not accustomed to losing.

:beermug:

look how talk change  ::)
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 07, 2010, 01:02:48 PM
We eh hiding like alyuh. I went to church, couldn't be bothered really. See I have faith in my team, don't have to hide during the game and then after 95 minutes  :devil: of playing come out and gloat.

We lose a game, we expect that to be big news as we are not accustomed to losing.

:beermug:

look how talk change  ::)

What you mean talk change? I went to church. When I see the team we field I  was like whatever with that. A Chelsea lost is not a big deal to me I expect us to lose. I could take my talk, I eh see the game, but we get we arse buss.  :-*
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on November 07, 2010, 01:10:25 PM
We eh hiding like alyuh. I went to church, couldn't be bothered really. See I have faith in my team, don't have to hide during the game and then after 95 minutes  :devil: of playing come out and gloat.

We lose a game, we expect that to be big news as we are not accustomed to losing.

:beermug:

look how talk change  ::)

he does only stay away from church to watch utd  ;D
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 07, 2010, 01:13:23 PM
oh gord hhahahaha  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:  :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on November 07, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?

Yeah that's why he's a master of creating chances in tight spaces.


Tenor... I agree, I dunno what Roy plan was but it finally seems to be taking hold.  

Torres was never much of an imaginative dribbler, but he has the legs and the muscle to get past his marker- which is really all you need unless yuh from Trinindad and hence labeled a shittong if yuh cyah "beat"....

That said, Torres is a different player in the EPL than he was in the Spanish league....In the Spanish league he was alot more mobile but a poor finisher....In the EPL, he is less mobile but a way better finisher....one of the few players that I've seen adjust to a new league almost instantaneously...looks to be finding back some fitness and confidence. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 07, 2010, 01:36:00 PM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?

Yeah that's why he's a master of creating chances in tight spaces.


Tenor... I agree, I dunno what Roy plan was but it finally seems to be taking hold.  

Torres was never much of an imaginative dribbler, but he has the legs and the muscle to get past his marker- which is really all you need unless yuh from Trinindad and hence labeled a shittong if yuh cyah "beat"....

That said, Torres is a different player in the EPL than he was in the Spanish league....In the Spanish league he was alot more mobile but a poor finisher....In the EPL, he is less mobile but a way better finisher....one of the few players that I've seen adjust to a new league almost instantaneously...looks to be finding back some fitness and confidence. 

YOu will never confuse Torres with a Brazilian, but to say he "can't dribble tuh save he life" is pure shit talk.  He have all kinda deft touches with the ball at his feet to pick it up and run at defenders or to create the slightest of openings to get his shot off.  If the definition of "dribble" is to hit man spanner and roly poly nutmeg then yeah.. he can't dribble  ::)
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on November 07, 2010, 02:33:43 PM
In all fairness bout Torres and he dribbling skills.  When he picked up the ball around Chelsea's box today, there were usually about 3-4 men around him.  He ain't that type of a player.  He is much more dangerous 1 v 1.  I've seen him destroy men on the dribble in those situations.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 07, 2010, 02:37:04 PM
In all fairness bout Torres and he dribbling skills.  When he picked up the ball around Chelsea's box today, there were usually about 3-4 men around him.  He ain't that type of a player.  He is much more dangerous 1 v 1.  I've seen him destroy men on the dribble in those situations.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Qq5aro_BVqA&feature=related

Doh worry... all the sequences in this vid exist only in dreams.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 02:47:08 PM
In all fairness bout Torres and he dribbling skills.  When he picked up the ball around Chelsea's box today, there were usually about 3-4 men around him.  He ain't that type of a player.  He is much more dangerous 1 v 1.  I've seen him destroy men on the dribble in those situations.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Qq5aro_BVqA&feature=related



Glad ah give yuh something tuh do today! And I didn't know you and Torres so close!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Jay10 on November 07, 2010, 02:47:47 PM
Missin lamps alot...Ramires still not up to speed...To be fair...we didnt pass any of our major tests this season ...hope things change when everyone fit.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 07, 2010, 02:53:49 PM
We eh hiding like alyuh. I went to church, couldn't be bothered really. See I have faith in my team, don't have to hide during the game and then after 95 minutes  :devil: of playing come out and gloat.

We lose a game, we expect that to be big news as we are not accustomed to losing.

:beermug:

look how talk change  ::)

he does only stay away from church to watch utd  ;D

Good  one.     :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on November 07, 2010, 05:02:22 PM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?

Yeah that's why he's a master of creating chances in tight spaces.


Tenor... I agree, I dunno what Roy plan was but it finally seems to be taking hold.  

In your dreams I am sure. The guy is good at shifting the ball to the side tuh create space but  his way tuh get by a defender is tuh push the ball past them and chase it. He is not good at beatsin a man or two by dribbling past or tru them.
          What is it you really trying to say,if a man don't have to beats and could develope other ways of scoreing his goals all credit to him,Torres is a boss.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 05:21:14 PM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?

Yeah that's why he's a master of creating chances in tight spaces.


Tenor... I agree, I dunno what Roy plan was but it finally seems to be taking hold.  

In your dreams I am sure. The guy is good at shifting the ball to the side tuh create space but  his way tuh get by a defender is tuh push the ball past them and chase it. He is not good at beatsin a man or two by dribbling past or tru them.
          What is it you really trying to say,if a man don't have to beats and could develope other ways of scoreing his goals all credit to him,Torres is a boss.

I say the man is a great goal scorer but in my opinion he can dribble tuh save his life,others beg tuh differ which is fine but yuh swear i said the man was a shitsnake! But that is expected when it comes tuh this forum.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: rotatopoti3 on November 07, 2010, 08:35:00 PM

I say the man is a great goal scorer but in my opinion he can dribble tuh save his life,others beg tuh differ which is fine but yuh swear i said the man was a shitsnake! But that is expected when it comes tuh this forum


Fella yuh drowing in tis argument....let we put things in ah simpler form..none of your present ManU strikers in Torres class....yuh really analyze how this fella does take he goals....
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on November 07, 2010, 08:58:18 PM

I say the man is a great goal scorer but in my opinion he can dribble tuh save his life,others beg tuh differ which is fine but yuh swear i said the man was a shitsnake! But that is expected when it comes tuh this forum


Fella yuh drowing in tis argument....let we put things in ah simpler form..none of your present ManU strikers in Torres class....yuh really analyze how this fella does take he goals....

allyuh like to use utd name loose loose eh.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 07, 2010, 09:13:56 PM
allyuh like to use utd name loose loose eh.

Loose my ass... is ah Utd fan in here talking shit about thing she obviously doh know nutten about.  Leh she go ask Ferdinand and Vidic if Torres could dribble nah.. see what they say.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: just cool on November 07, 2010, 09:22:10 PM
Super Mario Ballotelli got out the blocks with ah brace, but short lived after ah real small infraction where he received a straight red. ah mean it was ah foul, but a yellow card @ best, in spite that he poison then all the same. say what.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on November 07, 2010, 09:25:11 PM
allyuh like to use utd name loose loose eh.

Loose my ass... is ah Utd fan in here talking shit about thing she obviously doh know nutten about.  Leh she go ask Ferdinand and Vidic if Torres could dribble nah.. see what they say.

steups...... u pray hard that torres stay after this year
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 07, 2010, 11:03:32 PM
Super Mario Ballotelli got out the blocks with ah brace, but short lived after ah real small infraction where he received a straight red. ah mean it was ah foul, but a yellow card @ best, in spite that he poison then all the same. say what.

Is Man Utd, Man City playing next, so as per script the FA on point with Ballotelli red card. However, they appeal so he most likely will play. An appeal takes about 7 days.

Vidic and Ferdinand better prepare well.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on November 08, 2010, 05:12:03 AM
Super Mario Ballotelli got out the blocks with ah brace, but short lived after ah real small infraction where he received a straight red. ah mean it was ah foul, but a yellow card @ best, in spite that he poison then all the same. say what.

Is Man Utd, Man City playing next, so as per script the FA on point with Ballotelli red card. However, they appeal so he most likely will play. An appeal takes about 7 days.

Vidic and Ferdinand better prepare well.

Ize a Mario Ballotelli fan...buh......take yuh bias out yuh eyes for a lil bit. He get two yellows. Dis man real fustrating. Two unnecessary cards.

http://www.premierleague.com/page/MatchReports/0,,12306~51757,00.html

Quote
The scoreline did not flatter City and they almost increased their advantage when Tevez sent a free-kick on to the roof of Carson's net.

Balotelli then caused uproar by bundling over Nicky Shorey, although Probert did not deem the incident worthy of a yellow card.

The City striker might have been presented with a chance to complete his hat-trick just before the break but Yaya Toure's cross was cleared away.

City continued to press as the second half got under way, with Jerome Boateng finding himself in an unusually advanced position and just beaten to the ball by Carson.

Simon Cox almost pulled one back for Albion in spectacular fashion, though, with a swerving effort that cracked against the post.

Having no doubt impressed watching Italy boss Cesare Prandelli with his finishing prowess, Balotelli then received his marching orders after being shown yellow and then red cards in quick succession.

http://www.easy-share.com/1912897179/Day11_WestBromwich_vs_ManCity_BalotelliYellowCard.avi

http://www.easy-share.com/1912897177/Day11_WestBromwich_vs_ManCity_BalotelliRedCard.avi

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on November 08, 2010, 06:26:44 AM
Super Mario Ballotelli got out the blocks with ah brace, but short lived after ah real small infraction where he received a straight red. ah mean it was ah foul, but a yellow card @ best, in spite that he poison then all the same. say what.

Is Man Utd, Man City playing next, so as per script the FA on point with Ballotelli red card. However, they appeal so he most likely will play. An appeal takes about 7 days.

Vidic and Ferdinand better prepare well.
:rotfl:

u good yes...conspiracy theory right?

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 08, 2010, 08:30:27 AM
Super Mario Ballotelli got out the blocks with ah brace, but short lived after ah real small infraction where he received a straight red. ah mean it was ah foul, but a yellow card @ best, in spite that he poison then all the same. say what.

Is Man Utd, Man City playing next, so as per script the FA on point with Ballotelli red card. However, they appeal so he most likely will play. An appeal takes about 7 days.

Vidic and Ferdinand better prepare well.

Ize a Mario Ballotelli fan...buh......take yuh bias out yuh eyes for a lil bit. He get two yellows. Dis man real fustrating. Two unnecessary cards.

http://www.premierleague.com/page/MatchReports/0,,12306~51757,00.html

Quote
The scoreline did not flatter City and they almost increased their advantage when Tevez sent a free-kick on to the roof of Carson's net.

Balotelli then caused uproar by bundling over Nicky Shorey, although Probert did not deem the incident worthy of a yellow card.

The City striker might have been presented with a chance to complete his hat-trick just before the break but Yaya Toure's cross was cleared away.

City continued to press as the second half got under way, with Jerome Boateng finding himself in an unusually advanced position and just beaten to the ball by Carson.

Simon Cox almost pulled one back for Albion in spectacular fashion, though, with a swerving effort that cracked against the post.

Having no doubt impressed watching Italy boss Cesare Prandelli with his finishing prowess, Balotelli then received his marching orders after being shown yellow and then red cards in quick succession.

http://www.easy-share.com/1912897179/Day11_WestBromwich_vs_ManCity_BalotelliYellowCard.avi

http://www.easy-share.com/1912897177/Day11_WestBromwich_vs_ManCity_BalotelliRedCard.avi




That 1st card is a :bs: card. That is no where a yellow. Ballotelli will have lleh to ketch with refs in this league. He got nothing in this game. A couple time the RB hold on to him, literally wrap him up and the ref just play on. Then the LB just shove him to the ground from behind and nothing.


Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on November 08, 2010, 08:43:46 AM
Arhmm.....given that he tackle a man hard before and got away.....and then going in so hard from behind....I not surprised.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 08, 2010, 09:00:48 AM
Arhmm.....given that he tackle a man hard before and got away.....and then going in so hard from behind....I not surprised.



I guess everyone is closing their eyes to the defender arm wrapped around Ballotelli leg. The defender held on to Ballotelli and would not let him go. WTH. Because is Ballotelli and he know that everything he do is scrutinized he should just stop try get the ball?  :bs: utter :bs:

The defender was the only one on that play that should be carded.

Explain to me what Ballotelli should have done on that play with the defender arm around his leg?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 08, 2010, 09:02:44 AM
Arhmm.....given that he tackle a man hard before and got away.....and then going in so hard from behind....I not surprised.




He did not go in from behind, he made a concerted effort to get around. The tackle was late, but is was not from behind


2nd Card
I guess everyone is closing their eyes to the defender arm wrapped around Ballotelli leg. The defender held on to Ballotelli and would not let him go. WTH. Because is Ballotelli and he know that everything he do is scrutinized he should just stop try get the ball?  :bs: utter :bs:

The defender was the only one on that play that should be carded.

Explain to me what Ballotelli should have done on that play with the defender arm around his leg?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on November 08, 2010, 09:05:00 AM
Arhmm.....given that he tackle a man hard before and got away.....and then going in so hard from behind....I not surprised.



I guess everyone is closing their eyes to the defender arm wrapped around Ballotelli leg. The defender held on to Ballotelli and would not let him go. WTH. Because is Ballotelli and he know that everything he do is scrutinized he should just stop try get the ball?  :bs: utter :bs:

The defender was the only one on that play that should be carded.

Explain to me what Ballotelli should have done on that play with the defender arm around his leg?

Nobody saying no. But.....de fact is....a man going in from de back...very likely to get a card.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 08, 2010, 09:23:21 AM
I bet that If City's next game was not vs United you wouldnt hear a word about Ignorant Ballo's red card from mr I'm A Chelsea fan but all I do is study United Elan

I never see a man so scared of a next team that he watching the fixture list and making sure the next team have their main players and crying about if they dont with conspiracy theories .... paranoid much?

I hope you in the bridge when we burn it down on the 19th..
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 08, 2010, 09:43:35 AM
I bet that If City's next game was not vs United you wouldnt hear a word about Ignorant Ballo's red card from mr I'm A Chelsea fan but all I do is study United Elan

I never see a man so scared of a next team that he watching the fixture list and making sure the next team have their main players and crying about if they dont with conspiracy theories .... paranoid much?

I hope you in the bridge when we burn it down on the 19th..

pish
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 08, 2010, 11:43:12 AM
Missin lamps alot...Ramires still not up to speed...To be fair...we didnt pass any of our major tests this season ...hope things change when everyone fit.

Nah doh say dat because we level de same WBA who buss Arsenal ass and take ah draw from ManUre. :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on November 08, 2010, 04:29:41 PM
Missin lamps alot...Ramires still not up to speed...To be fair...we didnt pass any of our major tests this season ...hope things change when everyone fit.

Nah doh say dat because we level de same WBA who buss Arsenal ass and take ah draw from ManUre. :rotfl:

u using arsenal as a comparison side? allyuh standards real drop boy
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 09, 2010, 02:31:45 PM
Stoke City 1 vs Birmingham 0  Huth 40'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 09, 2010, 03:20:15 PM
Stoke City 2 vs Birmingham 0 Fuller
 Huth 40" 
 Fuller 71"
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 09, 2010, 03:22:14 PM
Stoke City 2 vs Birmingham 2

Huth 40'
Fuller 71'
                       Fahey 74'
                       Jerome 76'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 09, 2010, 03:30:49 PM
Stoke City 3 vs Birmingham 2

Huth 40'
Fuller 71'
                       Fahey 74'
                       Jerome 76'
Whitehead 85'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 09, 2010, 04:23:56 PM
Missin lamps alot...Ramires still not up to speed...To be fair...we didnt pass any of our major tests this season ...hope things change when everyone fit.

Nah doh say dat because we level de same WBA who buss Arsenal ass and take ah draw from ManUre. :rotfl:

u using arsenal as a comparison side? allyuh standards real drop boy

If daiz de bess yuh get from my statement den good fuh you.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 10, 2010, 03:50:21 PM
Ok so where did they get 4 minutes in this game?   :o
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: chelsealife on November 13, 2010, 09:52:45 AM
Bolton will be my team of the year if the keep playing the way the are currently playing. They a flying under d radar. Blackpool and West Brom getting hyped in d UK for their play but Bolton has been very consistent. Hope Jlloyd returns soon and contributes positively in some way
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Preacher on November 13, 2010, 12:15:21 PM
Stoke holding Liverpool.  Jones' touch is a hard one boy.  Great in the Air and and positioning.  That touch would help he goal rate.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Socafan on November 13, 2010, 12:25:12 PM
Stoke holding Liverpool.  Jones' touch is a hard one boy.  Great in the Air and and positioning.  That touch would help he goal rate.

Finally seeing what people does be talking about. He actually IS a handful. Not sure why this game more than others. He wins most of the aerial challenges(when he challenges) and almost always manages to make an accurate pass with them. His support running needs to improve plenty though, but sometimes I think thats because he's playing to instruction (find yuh ass in the middle when ball coming down). He needs to tangleup with goalkeepers more, me eh know if he 'fraid since the injury.

Fuh sure, fuh sure Concacaf cyar handle he, if he on a good team :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Preacher on November 13, 2010, 12:43:49 PM
If he on a good team is right...:)
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 13, 2010, 01:24:12 PM
Walters is ah real imps yuh kno.  2x de man ha KJ open an do shit!!  Big up KJ, Pennant ha yuh back!!!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: mukumsplau on November 13, 2010, 01:25:03 PM
ay ay..kj score a footer
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Socafan on November 13, 2010, 01:30:56 PM
2-0 Stoke.They didn't look too bad. Decent game KJ. Whappen to Liverpool though?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: FF on November 13, 2010, 01:31:58 PM
Walters is ah real imps yuh kno.  2x de man ha KJ open an do shit!!  Big up KJ, Pennant ha yuh back!!!

ah was real cussing he, real greedy man ting.. if i was de coach he ent seeing de field for a while
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: theworm2345 on November 13, 2010, 01:40:50 PM
Walters is ah real imps yuh kno.  2x de man ha KJ open an do shit!!  Big up KJ, Pennant ha yuh back!!!

ah was real cussing he, real greedy man ting.. if i was de coach he ent seeing de field for a while
Walters is an Irish guy so I have been following him for a long time.  To be honest I don't think he's really good enough for the EPL though I hope he'll prove me wrong.  He probably realizes he needs to make a mark with Gudjohnsen and Tuncay also there.

In the first half Fuller picked out Jones in a similar position though Jones took a bad touch and still made something of it and crossed for Etherington.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 13, 2010, 01:41:27 PM
As well as we played against Chelsea last week we came out real uninspired this game.  Also thought the ref let the game get away from him there was a lot of physical play all over the field and I think that worked to Stokes' advantage... although they didn't really capitalize.  Delap is such a great additional weapon to have on those long throws... time after time Stoke threatened and that scramble shit goal Fuller score had been in the works for some time.  

Kudos to Pennant... he was certainly fired up, and continues a nice revival of  his career.  Was one of my faves while at Anfield but he got crowded out.  Today he made us pay. Jones had a very up and down game for me, his touches are ridiculously bad at times... but as with any striker, give him enough chances to get it right and chances are that he will.  The commentators real rate him up, even the Fox studio crew.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on November 13, 2010, 02:32:04 PM
As well as we played against Chelsea last week we came out real uninspired this game.  Also thought the ref let the game get away from him there was a lot of physical play all over the field and I think that worked to Stokes' advantage... although they didn't really capitalize.  Delap is such a great additional weapon to have on those long throws... time after time Stoke threatened and that scramble shit goal Fuller score had been in the works for some time.  

Kudos to Pennant... he was certainly fired up, and continues a nice revival of  his career.  Was one of my faves while at Anfield but he got crowded out.  Today he made us pay. Jones had a very up and down game for me, his touches are ridiculously bad at times... but as with any striker, give him enough chances to get it right and chances are that he will.  The commentators real rate him up, even the Fox studio crew.

yea horrible game by liverpool today. though still happy that jones got a goal. pennant....what can i say i always had a respect for the guy. he's playing some real ball now.

i think after meireles and maxi came off that left the middle vulnerable to stoke's counter attacks. i have to mention babel, he came out to play today and had some good runs. hope to see more from him.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 13, 2010, 05:03:53 PM
yea horrible game by liverpool today. though still happy that jones got a goal. pennant....what can i say i always had a respect for the guy. he's playing some real ball now.

i think after meireles and maxi came off that left the middle vulnerable to stoke's counter attacks. i have to mention babel, he came out to play today and had some good runs. hope to see more from him.

I was real surprised when Roy left Torres (who completely disappeared in the second half) in there along with Kuyt up front, then brought in both Ngog and Babel.  Babel eh play in like 5 yrs so he was fresh like baby milk when he come on... he made some nice threatening runs, but credit to Stokes, they just di'n allow we to get anything started today.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: just cool on November 13, 2010, 08:57:05 PM
As well as we played against Chelsea last week we came out real uninspired this game.  Also thought the ref let the game get away from him there was a lot of physical play all over the field and I think that worked to Stokes' advantage... although they didn't really capitalize.  Delap is such a great additional weapon to have on those long throws... time after time Stoke threatened and that scramble shit goal Fuller score had been in the works for some time.  

Kudos to Pennant... he was certainly fired up, and continues a nice revival of  his career.  Was one of my faves while at Anfield but he got crowded out.  Today he made us pay. Jones had a very up and down game for me, his touches are ridiculously bad at times... but as with any striker, give him enough chances to get it right and chances are that he will.  The commentators real rate him up, even the Fox studio crew.
Shaggy really help poison allyuh today,  to me it seems like he had something to prove and he did.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 13, 2010, 09:20:48 PM
I love Ian Holloway

"To put it in gentleman's terms, if you've been out for a night and you're looking for a young lady and you pull one, you've done what you set out to do. We didn't look our best today but we've pulled. Some weeks the lady is good looking and some weeks they're not. Our performance today would have been not the best looking bird but at least we got her in the taxi. She may not have been the best looking lady we ended up taking home but it was still very pleasant and very nice, so thanks very much and let's have coffee." Ian Holloway

 :rotfl: :rotfl: LEGEND
 :beermug:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on November 14, 2010, 08:40:57 AM
Sagna now hit a nice one.

On the feed I watchin here the man change the channel to a live camera of a ting in lingerie writhing around on a bed lol.
Now he channel surfin.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 14, 2010, 10:56:08 AM
Chelsea 0-0 Sunderland 44'

Ivanovic just get away with one dey... he should be reaching fuh he soap and towel all now.  Welbeck terrorizing dat Chelsea backline.

--------------------------

Er... check dat

Chelsea 0-1 Sunderland halftime.... Onuoha just moonwalk thru de Chelsea defense and slip one past Cech.

-----------------------

Henderson and Gyan juss rape dem again... Chelsea 0-2 Sunderland 52'

Gyan with the finish after he and Henderson play one-touch triangulation on de practice field.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Socafan on November 14, 2010, 11:35:58 AM
Whey sah.....Sunderland actually have ah knocking ball brand yes. Things change fuh them boy. They looking like they could rest more on Cheasea too. Meanwhile, Chelsea looking uninspired, and not looking like they scoring anytime soon. They shoulda be on 10 men too.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Boodsy on November 14, 2010, 11:39:54 AM
Chelsea fans deserves a refund...
I couldn't have imagine this scoreline @ Stamford Bridge  :-[
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 14, 2010, 11:45:49 AM
Whey sah.....Sunderland actually have ah knocking ball brand yes. Things change fuh them boy. They looking like they could rest more on Cheasea too. Meanwhile, Chelsea looking uninspired, and not looking like they scoring anytime soon. They shoulda be on 10 men too.


Just when I thought at kickoff that Ferreira would be the weak link in the back it turn out to be Zhirkoff in midfield. The man having his worst game in a a Chelsea shirt.....and Carlo refuse to take him off.   Sunderland deserve to win this game.  My side looking even less inspired than they did against liverpool last week.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on November 14, 2010, 11:49:45 AM
Ah tell alyu Bruce is a boss.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 14, 2010, 11:53:28 AM
Ah tell alyu Bruce is a boss.

He never win against Chelsea until today....what really make him a boss?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Preacher on November 14, 2010, 11:54:25 AM
What The....I jess see Sund. 2 -Chel 0    ::)     Gyan score again?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on November 14, 2010, 11:59:10 AM
Ah tell alyu Bruce is a boss.

He never win against Chelsea until today....what really make him a boss?
      He made some harsh/unpopular decisions and it's paying off.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 14, 2010, 12:00:24 PM
Ah tell alyu Bruce is a boss.

He never win against Chelsea until today....what really make him a boss?
      He made some harsh/unpopular decisions and it's paying off.

  Arright, ok.....I hear yuh.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 14, 2010, 12:01:16 PM
What The....I jess see Sund. 2 -Chel 0    ::)     Gyan score again?

3-0... Gyah score, but Welbeck is de man who propel Sunderland throughout.  Fittingly Cashley served him up one on ah platter for a well-deserved score.

Score could easily have been 5-0... Zenden throw'way in de dregs and Welbeck forced a diving left-handed save from Cech off a sweet header.  Only real Chelsea chance I could remember was Ramires' header early in the second half.

      He made some harsh/unpopular decisions and it's paying off.

I won't be so quick to credit Bruce... Gyan has made all the difference.  Today is the first time all season a Sunderland player other than him or Bent score.  Not sure how Welbeck has played up to now though, and defensively they've looked much better (considering they gave up 7 to Chelsea the last time).
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: fari on November 14, 2010, 12:03:57 PM
Ah tell alyu Bruce is a boss.

the man have realll good tactics...and with an inspired gyan and welbeck (that man deserved his goal)...chelsea were never going to have an easy day
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on November 14, 2010, 12:08:05 PM
What The....I jess see Sund. 2 -Chel 0    ::)     Gyan score again?

3-0... Gyah score, but Welbeck is de man who propel Sunderland throughout.  Fittingly Cashley served him up one on ah platter for a well-deserved score.

Score could easily have been 5-0... Zenden throw'way in de dregs and Welbeck forced a diving left-handed save from Cech off a sweet header.  Only real Chelsea chance I could remember was Ramires' header early in the second half.

      He made some harsh/unpopular decisions and it's paying off.

I won't be so quick to credit Bruce... Gyan has made all the difference.  Today is the first time all season a Sunderland player other than him or Bent score.  Not sure how Welbeck has played up to now though, and defensively they've looked much better (considering they gave up 7 to Chelsea the last time).
      The thing is he got rid of Kenwyne and pick up Gyan,he got a lot of stick for that on here.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 14, 2010, 12:22:51 PM
      The thing is he got rid of Kenwyne and pick up Gyan,he got a lot of stick for that on here.

lol, yuh harsh.


But right... funny enough I was thinking about that comparison watching the game. Perhaps unfair to Kenwyne to compare him to Gyan, who clearly brings a different skillset. Gyan is a player who can create for himself, whereas KJ need table service... KJ was more active yesterday than I've seen him in quite some time, but we shouldn't mistake activity for achievement.  Gyan (today at least) was not only active, but threatening with his runs... and doing it against a better defense than KJ faced yesterday.  Gyan only has one more goal than Kenwyne so far, but you have to like his chances of beating him in that deparment this season.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 14, 2010, 12:27:11 PM
Is 3 we get in we arse from Sunderland?   :o :o :o    :rotfl: :rotfl:   WTH I seeing here boy. We handing Man United the title jes so. Daiz licks  :whip: :whip:   
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on November 14, 2010, 12:33:12 PM
      The thing is he got rid of Kenwyne and pick up Gyan,he got a lot of stick for that on here.

lol, yuh harsh.


But right... funny enough I was thinking about that comparison watching the game. Perhaps unfair to Kenwyne to compare him to Gyan, who clearly brings a different skillset. Gyan is a player who can create for himself, whereas KJ need table service... KJ was more active yesterday than I've seen him in quite some time, but we shouldn't mistake activity for achievement.  Gyan (today at least) was not only active, but threatening with his runs... and doing it against a better defense than KJ faced yesterday.  Gyan only has one more goal than Kenwyne so far, but you have to like his chances of beating him in that deparment this season.

      I eh mean to be harsh but i like/agree your thoughts.
Title: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: Zeppo on November 14, 2010, 01:25:19 PM
Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton

U.S. midfielder Stuart Holden scored his first Bolton goal Saturday to clinch a 3-2 victory over Wolverhampton in the Premier League on Saturday, while compatriot Brad Friedel conceded twice in four minutes as Aston Villa threw away a two-goal lead for a 2-2 draw with Manchester United.

Bolton is turning out to be this season's surprise, closing the gap on fourth-place Manchester City in the final Champions League qualification spot to three points with a third of the season gone.

Bolton went ahead at Wolves after just 45 seconds, with defender Richard Stearman heading into his own net.

(continue) (http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5801365/stuart-holden-nets-first-premier-league-goal-bolton-wanderers)
Title: Re: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: Quags on November 14, 2010, 01:44:59 PM
Who the hell is Stuart Holden  ???
Title: Re: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: MEP on November 14, 2010, 03:31:58 PM
de shithong who does give we some problems when we play de US
Title: Re: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: fish on November 14, 2010, 08:35:16 PM
Used to play for Houston Dynamo. Started in attackin mid after De Rosario left. Then got a transfer last season to Bolton.

Like is only one shit player on USA dat does give we side problems...  ::)
Title: Re: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: Storeboy on November 14, 2010, 09:12:03 PM
 ???So why are we talking about Stuart Holden on this site?  Does he have T&T eligibility?  Steeeeuuuppppps!
Title: Re: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: Socapro on November 14, 2010, 10:27:38 PM
de shithong who does give we some problems when we play de US

What does that say about us then when it comes to playing the USA?  :-[
Title: Re: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: MEP on November 16, 2010, 11:27:02 AM
de shithong who does give we some problems when we play de US

What does that say about us then when it comes to playing the USA?  :-[
my point exactly
Title: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: futbolfan on November 17, 2010, 12:36:36 PM
Me eh know eh, but de man try to show up Mourinho but instead he make Redknapp look like ah real jokey coach.  ::)   ::)  ::)

Van der Vaart hails Redknapp's relaxed style
By ESPNsoccernet staff

Rafael van der Vaart has praised Harry Redknapp's relaxed style of management, claiming Tottenham's lack of focus on tactics has brought out the best in him.
Van der Vaart has quickly stamped himself as a goalscoring midfielder to be feared since his deadline-day move from Real Madrid to north London in the summer.

Van der Vaart has scored seven times for Spurs already and, after admitting he found football "boring'' under new Madrid boss Jose Mourinho, claims Redknapp's more laid-back approach is working wonders for him and the team.

"Harry is a very special man, that's why I already feel at home at Spurs. It feels like I'm back on the street,'' he was quoted as saying in the Sun. "There are no long and boring speeches about tactics, like I was used to at Real Madrid. There is a board in our dressing room but Harry doesn't write anything on it.''
Van der Vaart said that training sessions under Redknapp were also a low-key affair, claiming that their recent successes, such as the memorable win over Champions League holders Inter Milan, were more about about team work than tactics.

"It's not that we do nothing - but it's close to that,'' he added. "For instance, last weekend Gareth Bale scored a header against Blackburn from my corner. But we didn't train one minute on it, it was pure luck. Good kicking, good heading, nothing more. And our win at home over Champions League winners Inter Milan was a clear example of playing on intuition. You can't train the goal I scored in that game.''

Title: Re: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: Bourbon on November 17, 2010, 12:38:12 PM
Harry for TT Manager!

Title: Re: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: dinho on November 17, 2010, 12:44:01 PM
study Van Der Vaart only train under Mourinho for what.. a 2 months?
Title: Re: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: Lower St. John on November 17, 2010, 12:51:59 PM
Tactics??  Who needs Tactics?  So what if there is nothing written on the board! Just go out and play street football.  It is more important that we gel as a team and have fun.  Harry for Trinbago Coach.

Blessings
Title: Re: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: Ngozi on November 17, 2010, 01:05:55 PM
I think he was misquoted ... and the press making it appear as though it's lack of tactics when its really a laid back approach to dealing with his players .. anyway won't change the price of sugarcane.
Title: Re: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: kicker on November 17, 2010, 01:35:47 PM
Some coaches aren't as big on tactics as others.

Rijkaard was known to be one who gave his players alot of freedom to play without restraining tactics.

I eh no coach but if I were I believe I'd be of the philosophy that no amount of tactics can beat hard work, organization, team chemistry and imagination...(and of course quality players)
Title: Re: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: KND2 on November 17, 2010, 01:44:21 PM
It helps when you have good players
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2010, 07:15:03 AM
Lots on games on TV this weekend... home team listed first, all times are Eastern Daylight Time:

Saturday November 20th

Starting with the North London Derby- interesting subplot as former Arsenal captain William Gallas returns to the Emirates Stadium for the first time since his controversial departure from the Gunners.  Supposedly Sami Al-Nasri refused to shake his hand before the game.

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif)  Arsenal-2 (Nasri 9', Chamakh 27') v  0- (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/79/f3/0,,12306~3339129,00.gif)  Spurs - (on now)



(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/be/9f/0,,12306~6004670,00.gif)  Birmingham v  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif)  Chelsea- FSP 9:55 am


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/72/f3/0,,12306~3339122,00.gif)  Manchester United v  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7b/f3/0,,12306~3339131,00.gif)  Wigan Athletic- FSC 10:00 am


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7a/f3/0,,12306~3339130,00.gif)  West Ham United v  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool- FSC 12:00 noon



Sunday November 21st


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Villa v  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/65/f3/0,,12306~3339109,00.gif)  Blackburn Rovers- FSP 8:30 am


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6c/f3/0,,12306~3339116,00.gif)  Fulham v  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif)  Manchester City- FSC 11:00 am

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: DeSoWa on November 20, 2010, 07:47:25 AM
Arshavin defending  :rotfl: and looking good too  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Feliziano on November 20, 2010, 07:48:41 AM
ah know they could only show so much of the matches Live but it really obvious the bigger clubs get the best airtime.
I woulda liked to see Newcastle v Bolton live instead of Chelsea v Birmingham
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2010, 07:56:59 AM
Spurs pull one back (Bale 50') 1-2 Arsenal

EDIT:


Spurs have pulled even (Van Der Vaart 66' pen) 2-2 Arsenal


Fabregas with one of the dumbest penalties I've seen in a while... lined up in a wall inside his own box he raised his hand to block Van Der Vaart's free kick.  Then had the nerve to try and claim he was shielding his face.  I guess he doh know where his own face is... seeing that the ball was a good foot to his left and going away from him.

Game on.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: TdotTrini on November 20, 2010, 08:14:36 AM
shit, Arsene took too long to replace Chamakh. To me Chamakh was breaksin from the ball and pull Fabregas hand with his.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2010, 08:22:47 AM
shit, Arsene took too long to replace Chamakh. To me Chamakh was breaksin from the ball and pull Fabregas hand with his.

Fabregas hand was superglue tuh Chamakh forearm? lol

Both ah dem raise dey hand but the ball was heading towards Chamakh so at least he had a valid excuse.  Same backside move Fabregas pull against Liverpool last time we play dem and Howard Webb didn't give the call.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on November 20, 2010, 08:30:05 AM
Spurs!!!

3-2
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: TdotTrini on November 20, 2010, 08:30:56 AM
lol, I was just being pissed off at Chamahk long before the penalty, he was not insinct with the offence going forward, not running into space.

f**k 3-2 Spurs.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2010, 08:31:36 AM
Spurs!!!

3-2

Fantastic delivery by Van Der Vaart... acquisition of the season thus far.  Sweet flick on by Kaboul for the goal.  Kosczielny musse feeling like ah real tun tun for his cynical foul on Bale knowing he couldn't match him for pace.

Good fight and character shown by Spurs.


Tdot I actually find he earn he pay today... but I agree that he squandered at least two threatening touches.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on November 20, 2010, 08:40:37 AM
They could play Hotspurs - Arsenal every week. Always entertaining.

I guess Harry "go out and sweat" halftime speech does work.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2010, 08:44:45 AM
They could play Hotspurs - Arsenal every week. Always entertaining.

I guess Harry "go out and sweat" halftime speech does work.

Lol.. ent!

It was interesting listening to the commentary at the half when Arsenal was up 2-0... Darke and Ekoku were saying how premature the talk was that Spurs had closed the gap on Arsenal, and how this Derby is often celebrated among Arsenal fans as "Totteringham Day", b/c usually by the time this game comes around Spurs have already been mathematically eliminated from passing Arsenal in the table. 

They even talk about how much of a non-factor Bale and Van Der Vaart was.   Funny how quickly things can change... Bale with the opener for Spurs (assisted by Van Der Vaart), Van Der Vaart earns and takes the penalty, then Kaboul scores off his free kick for the winner.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on November 20, 2010, 08:46:39 AM
Want to beat Arsenal! Force set plays.
Well done Spurs.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: College on November 20, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
 Spurs ... :wavetowel:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dinho on November 20, 2010, 08:56:59 AM
They could play Hotspurs - Arsenal every week. Always entertaining.

I guess Harry "go out and sweat" halftime speech does work.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Bess game to wake up early on a Saturday morning for..

Chamakh is a goat. Had that been a Torres or any top 4 EPL striker this game wouldve been done and dusted a long time ago. If Van Persie get back to 100% though, Arsenal will do some serious damage because they have real men loading the gun.

Koscielney is a goat too but Bale is a smart player. In both challenges he sell Denilson and Koscielney into the yellow cards, purposely overpush and then accelerate at the last second.

I thought Modric was the player of the game for me.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: College on November 20, 2010, 09:01:46 AM
They could play Hotspurs - Arsenal every week. Always entertaining.

I guess Harry "go out and sweat" halftime speech does work.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Bess game to wake up early on a Saturday morning for..

Chamakh is a goat. Had that been a Torres or any top 4 EPL striker this game wouldve been done and dusted a long time ago. If Van Persie get back to 100% though, Arsenal will do some serious damage because they have real men loading the gun.

Koscielney is a goat too but Bale is a smart player. In both challenges he sell Denilson and Koscielney into the yellow cards, purposely overpush and then accelerate at the last second.

I thought Modric was the player of the game for me.

Modric had a great second half, but Galas was the player of the game for me.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2010, 09:17:22 AM
Modric had a great second half, but Galas was the player of the game for me.

Gallas had a very good, bordering on great game for me.  Assou-Ekotto and Kaboul were at fault on the Arsenal goals, but other than that they were solid at stifling anything up the middle and much of that had to do with Gallas' play.

Still... Van Der Vaart had a direct hand in all three Spurs goals, I dunno how he could NOT be atop anybody MOM list.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 20, 2010, 10:23:42 AM
Two red cards. As soon as Wigan players touch a player in red is a yellow card. A Rafael push down a player in blue from behind and not a card.    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:  This thing is a joke. Nani slam Figueroa to the floor and then kick at, when he get up the shove him and ref let them shake hands.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 20, 2010, 10:27:21 AM
 :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 20, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
Another cutarse    :'( :'(   How come we does cyah get to play against 8.   
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 27, 2010, 12:32:23 AM
Saturday November 27

Away team listed first, all times EDT:

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif)  Arsenal v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Vill - 7:30 am ESPN

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/65/f3/0,,12306~3339109,00.gif)  Blackburn United v.  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/72/f3/0,,12306~3339122,00.gif)  Manchester United - 9:55 am FSC

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif)  Manchester City v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c1/46/0,,12306~3688129,00.gif)  Stoke City - 10 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/be/9f/0,,12306~6004670,00.gif)  Birmingham City v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6c/f3/0,,12306~3339116,00.gif)  Fulham - 12 noon FSC


Sunday November 28


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif)  Chelsea v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/76/92/0,,12306~8819318,00.gif)  Newcastle United - 8:30 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/79/f3/0,,12306~3339129,00.gif)  Tottenham Hotspurs - 11 am FSC
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 27, 2010, 10:24:51 AM
Blackburn getting rape on national TV... 0-6 down to Man U.  Berba with a beaver trick.


EDIT:  Berba with his fifth... and still 20+ minutes to play.


Blackburn in absolute shambles.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on November 27, 2010, 10:34:52 AM
Steups I sold Berba long time.  4 points a goal plus bonuses, he makin about 30 pts.  If anyone have him as their captain they makin mas all now.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 27, 2010, 10:43:51 AM
Steups I sold Berba long time.  4 points a goal plus bonuses, he makin about 30 pts.  If anyone have him as their captain they makin mas all now.

I just coming to say whoever have Berba as captain real cleaning up today.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on November 27, 2010, 10:45:18 AM
Jeezus, Balotelli with a beauty!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: FF on November 27, 2010, 10:55:32 AM
Jeezus, Balotelli with a beauty!

is micah richards boss... stoke with ah almost better one though
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on November 27, 2010, 11:03:06 AM
Jeezus, Balotelli with a beauty!

is micah richards boss... stoke with ah almost better one though

Yeh I see it now.
Tuncay heel pass was exquisite.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 27, 2010, 11:56:05 AM
Steups I sold Berba long time.  4 points a goal plus bonuses, he makin about 30 pts.  If anyone have him as their captain they makin mas all now.

that would be me  ;D ;D

I real forget to change up the team... i doe play it serious but I now realise I had him as captain... I will try a ting now lol.. I get a big boost
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 03, 2010, 06:47:02 PM
Lots of games on TV this weekend...


Saturday December 4 Home team listed first, all times EDT:


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif)  Arsenal v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6c/f3/0,,12306~3339116,00.gif)  Fulham - 10 am FSC/Fox Deportes

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif)  Chelsea v.  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6b/f3/0,,12306~3339115,00.gif)  Everton - 10 am ESPN2/ESPN3.com

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif)  Manchester City v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/67/f3/0,,12306~3339111,00.gif)  Bolton - 10 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/73/92/0,,12306~8819315,00.gif)  Blackpool United v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/72/f3/0,,12306~3339122,00.gif)  Manchester United- 12 noon FSC/Fox Deportes Game postponed due to cold weather

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/65/f3/0,,12306~3339109,00.gif)  Blackburn Rovers v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c6/9f/0,,12306~6004678,00.gif)  Wolverhampton- 2 pm FSP


Sunday December 5


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/77/92/0,,12306~8819319,00.gif)  West Bromwich Albion v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/76/92/0,,12306~8819318,00.gif)  Newcastle United - 8:30 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7b/f3/0,,12306~3339131,00.gif)  Wigan Athletic v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c1/46/0,,12306~3688129,00.gif)  Stoke City - 10:30 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/78/f3/0,,12306~3339128,00.gif)  Sunderland v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7a/f3/0,,12306~3339130,00.gif)  West Ham United - 11 am FSC/Fox Deportes


Monday December 6


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Villa - 2:55 pm ESPN2/ESPN3.com
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 04, 2010, 10:48:19 AM
Chelsea looking ordinary... Ancellotti coaching like a Big Phil redux.


Baines run pass Mikel, Kalou and Fereira like some Hollywood extras on de field... cross to Cahill on the far right post, back across to Jermaine Beckford... back of the net... equalizer.  Chelsea get ah early penalty and seemed content to sit on they 1-goal lead.  They really should be down 1-2 after Rodwell headed one off the inside of the post (better chance than Terry's lob onto the crossbar in the first half).

Talking point will be whether Howard should have been sent off for obstructing Anelka in the box... resulting in Drogba's penalty.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 04, 2010, 11:01:26 AM
Chelsea sit back on a 1-1 and get 7 minutes extra time and barely went forward...Everton should have won it in the end

WTF going on there?

I was watching that game confused... from the 60th them men sit back and stop playing
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 04, 2010, 11:08:53 AM
Chelsea looking ordinary... Ancellotti coaching like a Big Phil redux.


Baines run pass Mikel, Kalou and Fereira like some Hollywood extras on de field... cross to Cahill on the far right post, back across to Jermaine Beckford... back of the net... equalizer.  Chelsea get ah early penalty and seemed content to sit on they 1-goal lead.  They really should be down 1-2 after Rodwell headed one off the inside of the post (better chance than Terry's lob onto the crossbar in the first half).

Talking point will be whether Howard should have been sent off for obstructing Anelka in the box... resulting in Drogba's penalty.


Seriously Bake and Shark Howard did not move Anelka just ran into him. Watch the slow mo Anelka even stumble.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 04, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
Chelsea looking ordinary... Ancellotti coaching like a Big Phil redux.


Baines run pass Mikel, Kalou and Fereira like some Hollywood extras on de field... cross to Cahill on the far right post, back across to Jermaine Beckford... back of the net... equalizer.  Chelsea get ah early penalty and seemed content to sit on they 1-goal lead.  They really should be down 1-2 after Rodwell headed one off the inside of the post (better chance than Terry's lob onto the crossbar in the first half).

Talking point will be whether Howard should have been sent off for obstructing Anelka in the box... resulting in Drogba's penalty.


Seriously Bake and Shark Howard did not move Anelka just ran into him. Watch the slow mo Anelka even stumble.

agreed that was one shit call... Anelka ran into Howard.. of course Elan and etc will fight it down but that was a shit call
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 04, 2010, 11:13:22 AM

Seriously Bake and Shark Howard did not move Anelka just ran into him. Watch the slow mo Anelka even stumble.

Doh get me wrong... I agree.  Anelka kinda tie up heself... he push de ball right, across the face of goal, start to go left than try to cut back righ... all with some chippy steps.  His momentum take him straight into the on-coming Howard.  But I imagine Chelsea fans will point to that and say Everton shoulda been down to 10 men.


---------------------------------

Nasri with a nice brace against Fulham... two of the sweetest solo efforts you're likely to see anytime soon.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 04, 2010, 11:15:02 AM
Chelsea sit back on a 1-1 and get 7 minutes extra time and barely went forward...Everton should have won it in the end

WTF going on there?

I was watching that game confused... from the 60th them men sit back and stop playing

Fellaini is ah goat... he get ah sweet ball floated into de box with two men on him... and nobody on Beckford.  De facker try to control it off he chest to keep it, rather than knock it down into Beckford path.  Macca say he hair musse was in he eyes  :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 04, 2010, 11:19:58 AM
Chelsea sit back on a 1-1 and get 7 minutes extra time and barely went forward...Everton should have won it in the end

WTF going on there?

I was watching that game confused... from the 60th them men sit back and stop playing

Fellaini is ah goat... he get ah sweet ball floated into de box with two men on him... and nobody on Beckford.  De facker try to control it off he chest to keep it, rather than knock it down into Beckford path.  Macca say he hair musse was in he eyes  :rotfl:

that was a shocker... man was rell open.. simple nod down

everyone was trying to be the hero...Chelsea were on the ropes
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 06, 2010, 08:45:05 AM
Newcastle United have parted company with manager Chris Hughton following a recent dip in the team's fortunes.

The Magpies were beaten 3-1 at West Brom on Saturday, a week after holding Chelsea to a 1-1 draw, although that result followed a 5-1 defeat at Bolton.

Hughton guided Newcastle back into the Premier League in May after their relegation in the 2009-10 campaign.

Newcastle are currently 11th in the top flight, with five wins from 16 games - only two of those coming at home.

Rumours that the ex-Spurs defender was set to leave the club began circulating several weeks ago.

A statement on the club website said: "the board would like to place on record their thanks to Chris for his considerable efforts during the club's transition from Championship to Premier League club.

"Chris has shown exceptional character and commitment since being appointed manager in October 2009. The club wishes him well in the future.

"Regrettably the board now feels that an individual with more managerial experience is needed to take the club forward.

"The task of appointing a new manager now begins. An announcement will be made shortly regarding transitional arrangements pending the appointment of a successor."

More to follow.


WOWZERS... This seems a bit unfair... Mike Ashley is going to burn in hell
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 06, 2010, 09:07:34 AM
Very unfair indeed. Hughton stabilized the club after much turmoil. Newcastle is a prime example of a club that keeps changing coaches and simply cannot make any progresss. What the club needs is to get stable and then build, but nah! Another successful business man who brains turns to shit, once he enters the football world.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 06, 2010, 09:09:11 AM
That is real messed up! He was good enough to bring them back to the EPL but not good enough to be allowed a full season to manage the team in the EPL. I am waiting to see which recycled loser manager they are going to appoint!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 06, 2010, 09:20:03 AM
On another EPL note. I am very impressed with the work of Roberto DiMatteo. Wes Brom playing some composed and effective football. Not only are the players encouraged to play with confidence, but some genuine talent is emerging. For me Di Matteo is showing great quality here, simply because this is no cheque book team and he is patiently building for success.  :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mose on December 06, 2010, 09:31:31 AM
Very unfair indeed. Hughton stabilized the club after much turmoil. Newcastle is a prime example of a club that keeps changing coaches and simply cannot make any progresss. What the club needs is to get stable and then build, but nah! Another successful business man who brains turns to shit, once he enters the football world.
Agreed. Ah cyah support dat side anymore after dis.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 06, 2010, 10:03:38 AM
On another EPL note. I am very impressed with the work of Roberto DiMatteo. Wes Brom playing some composed and effective football. Not only are the players encouraged to play with confidence, but some genuine talent is emerging. For me Di Matteo is showing great quality here, simply because this is no cheque book team and he is patiently building for success.  :applause: :applause:

Dey actully knock the ball with positive effect!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Andre on December 06, 2010, 11:06:32 AM
Newcastle United have parted company with manager Chris Hughton following a recent dip in the team's fortunes.

The Magpies were beaten 3-1 at West Brom on Saturday, a week after holding Chelsea to a 1-1 draw, although that result followed a 5-1 defeat at Bolton.

Hughton guided Newcastle back into the Premier League in May after their relegation in the 2009-10 campaign.

Newcastle are currently 11th in the top flight, with five wins from 16 games - only two of those coming at home.

Rumours that the ex-Spurs defender was set to leave the club began circulating several weeks ago.

A statement on the club website said: "the board would like to place on record their thanks to Chris for his considerable efforts during the club's transition from Championship to Premier League club.

"Chris has shown exceptional character and commitment since being appointed manager in October 2009. The club wishes him well in the future.

"Regrettably the board now feels that an individual with more managerial experience is needed to take the club forward.

"The task of appointing a new manager now begins. An announcement will be made shortly regarding transitional arrangements pending the appointment of a successor."

More to follow.


WOWZERS... This seems a bit unfair... Mike Ashley is going to burn in hell


ABSOLUTE BULLSH*IT!

The Toon fans up in arms today for good reason.

he'll probably bring in somebody like relegation specialist ian dowie.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A78022208
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 06, 2010, 11:10:44 AM
Yes boy...I was shocked to see the headlines.  Been in the rumor mill for weeks,. but if you ask me, Newcastle has done well this season for a newly-promoted side.  Problem with this club is that they think they are a "big club".  Drawing 50,000 fans for each home game does not automatically mnake you a big team.  The trophy does not support that self perception.  The board and owner have got this one wrong.  Lets see them slide down the table now.  You could tell that the players enjoyed playing for Houghton.  They were quick to take responsibility for underperformance, as if to protect the coach.  At least he has proven himself capable of managing in the EPL.  There were seriouis doubts about whether he had the pedigree to be a manager.  When he was caretaker at Spurs, he had a torrid time, and that left people questioning whether he was just a first team coach, as against a manager.
Title: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: 1-868 on December 06, 2010, 11:20:13 AM
Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9261212.stm



Newcastle United have sacked Chris Hughton from his position as manager.

The announcement came a day after Newcastle lost 3-1 at West Brom, a result which left them 11th in the Premier League table.

Hughton, 51, guided Newcastle back into the top flight last season after their relegation in the 2008-09 campaign.

However, the club said on their official website they are seeking "an individual with more managerial experience" to take them forward.

"The board would like to place on record their thanks to Chris for his considerable efforts during the club's transition from Championship to Premier League club," said Newcastle in a statement.
   

"Chris has shown exceptional character and commitment since being appointed manager in October 2009. The club wishes him well in the future.

"The task of appointing a new manager now begins. An announcement will be made shortly regarding transitional arrangements pending the appointment of a successor."

Speculation has been growing for weeks regarding Hughton's future, although the club stated in October they would be looking to extend his contract in the new year.

The defeat at the Hawthorns, after which Hughton kept his players in the dressing room for an hour, was the Magpies' seventh of a season in a campaign in which they have won only two games at home.

However, these were a 5-1 victory over local rivals Sunderland in October and a 6-0 triumph against Aston Villa back in August.

They have registered wins at Everton and Arsenal this season under Hughton, but have picked up only two points from a possible 15 since the victory at the Emirates on 7 November.

Those results have led to Hughton becoming the first Premier League manager to be sacked this season.

Hughton, who has been working without an assistant manager since Colin Calderwood joined Hibernian in October, is followed out of St James' Park by goalkeeping coach Paul Barron.
Chris Hughton


Former Tottenham player and assistant manager Hughton arrived at Newcastle from White Hart Lane in February 2008 as coach to then Magpies boss Kevin Keegan.

He served as caretaker manager when Keegan left in September 2008, before reverting to assistant boss when Joe Kinnear was appointed manager on a temporary basis.

When Kinnear fell ill the following February, Hughton again stepped in, before assisting Iain Dowie and Alan Shearer as Newcastle were relegated.

Hughton was once again placed in caretaker charge in the summer of 2009, as owner Mike Ashley sought to sell the club, but the team started the Championship season so well he was given the role on a permanent basis in October 2009.

He went on to guide Newcastle to the Championship title with two games to spare.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: palos on December 06, 2010, 11:33:53 AM
It was only a matter of time.  He was never really in the running to manage Newcastle over the long term no matter what how the team performed.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Trinimassive on December 06, 2010, 11:52:10 AM
He's been doing a good job. He took them from Championship to currently 11th position presently.

It seems premature. Well that is unless they have a very experienced manager in mind.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Bally on December 06, 2010, 11:57:44 AM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: giggsy11 on December 06, 2010, 12:07:35 PM
I bet Shearer will be appointed or I wouldn't be surprised if he were to be appointed!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: DeSoWa on December 06, 2010, 12:11:26 PM
Newcastle United have parted company with manager Chris Hughton following a recent dip in the team's fortunes.

The Magpies were beaten 3-1 at West Brom on Saturday, a week after holding Chelsea to a 1-1 draw, although that result followed a 5-1 defeat at Bolton.

Hughton guided Newcastle back into the Premier League in May after their relegation in the 2009-10 campaign.

Newcastle are currently 11th in the top flight, with five wins from 16 games - only two of those coming at home.

Rumours that the ex-Spurs defender was set to leave the club began circulating several weeks ago.

A statement on the club website said: "the board would like to place on record their thanks to Chris for his considerable efforts during the club's transition from Championship to Premier League club.

"Chris has shown exceptional character and commitment since being appointed manager in October 2009. The club wishes him well in the future.

"Regrettably the board now feels that an individual with more managerial experience is needed to take the club forward.

"The task of appointing a new manager now begins. An announcement will be made shortly regarding transitional arrangements pending the appointment of a successor."

More to follow.


WOWZERS... This seems a bit unfair... Mike Ashley is going to burn in hell

This is ah real dotish move...steupss. This is one team I silently support from way back, and I think they were doing well up to a couple weeks ago. Real real bad move dey!  :(

Big Up!
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Andre on December 06, 2010, 12:16:24 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex

is not coz he black
is because mike ashley is a twat
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 06, 2010, 12:20:29 PM
Very unfair indeed. Hughton stabilized the club after much turmoil. Newcastle is a prime example of a club that keeps changing coaches and simply cannot make any progresss. What the club needs is to get stable and then build, but nah! Another successful business man who brains turns to shit, once he enters the football world.

Hughton good enough to stabilize the club, good enough to be the number two man at Spurs for years, good enough to get them back into the Prem and get quality results against the top-flite clubs on the road... good enough to get them to 11th in the table their first year back... but not good enough to lead them forward.  Nonsense... especially since the rumored "more experienced" manager they have in mind is Alan Pardew.

The Guardian is similarly unimpressed and unconvinced (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/06/the-fiver-chris-hughton-sacked).
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: MEP on December 06, 2010, 12:23:19 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex
Black and Irish double whammy
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Bakes on December 06, 2010, 12:25:18 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex

is not coz he black
is because mike ashley is a twat

Thank you... they didn't have to give him the job.  If his race was an issue they they wouldn't have hired him in the first place.  Is like Tenorsaw (ah think it was) say in the EPL thread, they fancy theyself to be a 'big club' so they letting their deluded assessment of their worth affect their sound judgment.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: CK1 on December 06, 2010, 12:55:53 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex

is not coz he black
is because mike ashley is a twat

Thank you... they didn't have to give him the job.  If his race was an issue they they wouldn't have hired him in the first place.  Is like Tenorsaw (ah think it was) say in the EPL thread, they fancy theyself to be a 'big club' so they letting their deluded assessment of their worth affect their sound judgment.

Please don't take that sentiment for granted. We only good enough to do the bull**** work, then they will replace us and bring some old recycled trash. What the hell they mean by looking for a more experienced manager ??? If he could get the axe for this reason then Latas could get axe too ???
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: giggsy11 on December 06, 2010, 01:17:22 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex

is not coz he black
is because mike ashley is a twat

Thank you... they didn't have to give him the job.  If his race was an issue they they wouldn't have hired him in the first place.  Is like Tenorsaw (ah think it was) say in the EPL thread, they fancy theyself to be a 'big club' so they letting their deluded assessment of their worth affect their sound judgment.

Please don't take that sentiment for granted. We only good enough to do the bull**** work, then they will replace us and bring some old recycled trash. What the hell they mean by looking for a more experienced manager ??? If he could get the axe for this reason then Latas could get axe too ???


It appears the trend when giving minorities a chance to manage or be in charge is when the team or situation is lower than low.  Even with the USA's president elect after Bush left a mess! I also think it is an easy way to say hey we gave them a chance but the question is would you give them the same chance and trust them with the opportunity if the team was at the top and in a position to go from strength to strength?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on December 06, 2010, 01:18:52 PM
Liked Hughton's demeanor....sad news

Don't know much about his managerial skills but I get the sense that Newcastle fans loved him...

He has a decent resume- I'm sure he will bounce back well. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 06, 2010, 01:20:40 PM
Very unfair indeed. Hughton stabilized the club after much turmoil. Newcastle is a prime example of a club that keeps changing coaches and simply cannot make any progresss. What the club needs is to get stable and then build, but nah! Another successful business man who brains turns to shit, once he enters the football world.

Hughton good enough to stabilize the club, good enough to be the number two man at Spurs for years, good enough to get them back into the Prem and get quality results against the top-flite clubs on the road... good enough to get them to 11th in the table their first year back... but not good enough to lead them forward.  Nonsense... especially since the rumored "more experienced" manager they have in mind is Alan Pardew.

The Guardian is similarly unimpressed and unconvinced (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/06/the-fiver-chris-hughton-sacked).

Pardew!!??? The same man who say Tevez and Macherano can't play in the EPL  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: kicker on December 06, 2010, 01:22:29 PM

Black and Irish double whammy

He represented Ireland as a player but he's English.  Listen to his accent. 
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Observer on December 06, 2010, 01:29:59 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex

is not coz he black
is because mike ashley is a twat

Thank you... they didn't have to give him the job.  If his race was an issue they they wouldn't have hired him in the first place.  Is like Tenorsaw (ah think it was) say in the EPL thread, they fancy theyself to be a 'big club' so they letting their deluded assessment of their worth affect their sound judgment.

Please don't take that sentiment for granted. We only good enough to do the bull**** work, then they will replace us and bring some old recycled trash. What the hell they mean by looking for a more experienced manager ??? If he could get the axe for this reason then Latas could get axe too ???


It appears the trend when giving minorities a chance to manage or be in charge is when the team or situation is lower than low.  Even with the USA's president elect after Bush left a mess! I also think it is an easy way to say hey we gave them a chance but the question is would you give them the same chance and trust them with the opportunity if the team was at the top and in a position to go from strength to strength?

We will disagree on this one. Newcastle is a club with a history of fack ups when it comes to managers. From 2000 to present they have had Robson, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, keegan, Kinnear, Shearer, Hughton
Shearer, was not confident to take charge in  the Championship. Houghton stepped up and proved his worth. My bet is Newcastle will take some abuse by the media for this move.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Bakes on December 06, 2010, 01:31:35 PM

We will disagree on this one. Newcastle is a club with a history of fack ups when it comes to managers. From 2000 to present they have had Robson, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, keegan, Kinnear, Shearer, Hughton
Shearer, was not confident to take charge in  the Championship. Houghton stepped up and proved his worth. My bet is Newcastle will take some abuse by the media for this move.

They done getting pounded by fans and press alike.

EDIT: Ian Darke providing commentary on ESPN's broadcast of the Liverpool v. Villa match:

" 'Staggering' is how you'd describe the sacking of Chris Hughton... I don't think anyone can comprehend how a man who has done so well could be fired by Mike Ashley".
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: giggsy11 on December 06, 2010, 02:05:43 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex

is not coz he black
is because mike ashley is a twat

Thank you... they didn't have to give him the job.  If his race was an issue they they wouldn't have hired him in the first place.  Is like Tenorsaw (ah think it was) say in the EPL thread, they fancy theyself to be a 'big club' so they letting their deluded assessment of their worth affect their sound judgment.

Please don't take that sentiment for granted. We only good enough to do the bull**** work, then they will replace us and bring some old recycled trash. What the hell they mean by looking for a more experienced manager ??? If he could get the axe for this reason then Latas could get axe too ???


It appears the trend when giving minorities a chance to manage or be in charge is when the team or situation is lower than low.  Even with the USA's president elect after Bush left a mess! I also think it is an easy way to say hey we gave them a chance but the question is would you give them the same chance and trust them with the opportunity if the team was at the top and in a position to go from strength to strength?

We will disagree on this one. Newcastle is a club with a history of fack ups when it comes to managers. From 2000 to present they have had Robson, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, keegan, Kinnear, Shearer, Hughton
Shearer, was not confident to take charge in  the Championship. Houghton stepped up and proved his worth. My bet is Newcastle will take some abuse by the media for this move.

Observer my stated opinon were geared toward him being hired for the position in the first place and how it appears that minorities get their chances when situations are lower than low or by default.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 06, 2010, 02:19:44 PM
Babel was francoment offside!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 06, 2010, 02:22:54 PM

Monday December 6


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Villa - 2:55 pm ESPN2/ESPN3.com


Great positive start by Liverpool... 2-0 18'

Skrtel with the header off the corner, back into the penalty area where David N'gog put it away with a flying close-range header 15'.  Two minutes later Ryan Babel took a chipped pass over the Villa backline from Lucas... looked to be a step offside but the flag stayed down and Brad Friedel was beaten for the second time to start the game.

No Sidwell, no Reo-Coker, no Carew for Villa... but Liverpool are also playing without Gerard, Torres (birth of his child) and Carragher.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: trinikev on December 06, 2010, 02:36:09 PM
Looking like Martin Jol might be next in line. He just resigned from Ajax...
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: fish on December 06, 2010, 02:40:40 PM
Jol will be a good manager, however, Newcastle have a knack for flickin changin managers too quick.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: injunchile on December 06, 2010, 03:24:23 PM
Jack get the man quick and if he say no - Jol from Ajax
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on December 06, 2010, 03:28:33 PM

Monday December 6


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Villa - 2:55 pm ESPN2/ESPN3.com


Great positive start by Liverpool... 2-0 18'

Skrtel with the header off the corner, back into the penalty area where David N'gog put it away with a flying close-range header 15'.  Two minutes later Ryan Babel took a chipped pass over the Villa backline from Lucas... looked to be a step offside but the flag stayed down and Brad Friedel was beaten for the second time to start the game.

No Sidwell, no Reo-Coker, no Carew for Villa... but Liverpool are also playing without Gerard, Torres (birth of his child) and Carragher.

3-0 nice shot by maxi! seems to be a cakewalk for liverpool today. xaibi alonso has been spotted in the stands.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: KND2 on December 06, 2010, 03:38:33 PM
they should have keep him.

He was doing a great job with a mostly shit squad.

They fire him because he black and they do not want to risk a black man doing well as a manager in england.

look for them to get back into a relegation battle.

Because the players they have were over performing which is most likely due to coach motivation.

Now that he gone they will be disappointed and performances will drop.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 06, 2010, 03:54:39 PM
3-0 nice shot by maxi! seems to be a cakewalk for liverpool today. xaibi alonso has been spotted in the stands.

Macca was giving Xabi a little bit of good-natured stick... he said he finally got a little 4-day holiday and instead of going to the beach he comes to Liverpool, lol.  Nice touch by Xabi though, as noted by Ian Darke, it shows that he still has high regards for the club and the area.

As for Maxi's goal... sweet release by Reina to Maxi who made a nice early pass to N'gog before getting it back.  Nice counter by Liverpool... great composed finishing by Maxi. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on December 06, 2010, 04:12:45 PM
3-0 nice shot by maxi! seems to be a cakewalk for liverpool today. xaibi alonso has been spotted in the stands.

Macca was giving Xabi a little bit of good-natured stick... he said he finally got a little 4-day holiday and instead of going to the beach he comes to Liverpool, lol.  Nice touch by Xabi though, as noted by Ian Darke, it shows that he still has high regards for the club and the area.

As for Maxi's goal... sweet release by Reina to Maxi who made a nice early pass to N'gog before getting it back.  Nice counter by Liverpool... great composed finishing by Maxi. 

Lol you can tell he misses Liverpool. We miss him as well. Great game though by Liverpool minus our three key players in Carragher, Gerrard and Torres. I think it's Reina's 100th clean sheet for Liverpool also right?

For Aston Villa what can i say. They were over-matched. I like how that kid delalphonso (don't know how you spell it) plays. Still a bit raw but has great potential.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: theworm2345 on December 06, 2010, 05:03:30 PM
they should have keep him.

He was doing a great job with a mostly shit squad.

They fire him because he black and they do not want to risk a black man doing well as a manager in england.

look for them to get back into a relegation battle.

Because the players they have were over performing which is most likely due to coach motivation.

Now that he gone they will be disappointed and performances will drop.
More likely because he's Irish
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 06, 2010, 05:09:22 PM
3-0 nice shot by maxi! seems to be a cakewalk for liverpool today. xaibi alonso has been spotted in the stands.

Macca was giving Xabi a little bit of good-natured stick... he said he finally got a little 4-day holiday and instead of going to the beach he comes to Liverpool, lol.  Nice touch by Xabi though, as noted by Ian Darke, it shows that he still has high regards for the club and the area.

As for Maxi's goal... sweet release by Reina to Maxi who made a nice early pass to N'gog before getting it back.  Nice counter by Liverpool... great composed finishing by Maxi. 

Lol you can tell he misses Liverpool. We miss him as well. Great game though by Liverpool minus our three key players in Carragher, Gerrard and Torres. I think it's Reina's 100th clean sheet for Liverpool also right?

For Aston Villa what can i say. They were over-matched. I like how that kid delalphonso (don't know how you spell it) plays. Still a bit raw but has great potential.

Yeah I took the talk of Reina's clean sheet over to the Liverpool thread, but yeah... fantastic accomplishment. 

Delfouneso looks the real deal.  First time I've ever seen him play to be honest but I was real impressed.  England have a promising young player on they hands if he continues to improve.  He's only 19, but given the rate at which some of the top-flight players develop... time for him to start getting more first-team run.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Red Mango on December 06, 2010, 06:08:36 PM
SHOCKER!!!

102 points...

Straight back into the Prem after one year in the Championship...

11 points clear of their nearest rival...

taken points off of Arsenal, at the Emerates(!)

stick 5 past Sunderland who arguably have a world beater in Asamoah Gyan in their unit...

I was stunned by (the harshness of) Ashley's decision..

Good luck to the fella...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 09, 2010, 08:05:43 AM
Pardew hired  ??? Ashley wanted a more experienced coach, so he goes for Pardew, who has a grand total of 17 months experience in the Premier League  :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 09, 2010, 08:43:57 AM
My newcastle partner now send me this message:

If Alan Pardew is the answer - What the f**k's the question?

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 09, 2010, 08:54:17 AM
My newcastle partner now send me this message:

If Alan Pardew is the answer - What the f**k's the question?



The question may be-how can you f^ck up stable situation because the owner getting itchy?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2010, 12:30:55 PM
Pardew hired  ??? Ashley wanted a more experienced coach, so he goes for Pardew, who has a grand total of 17 months experience in the Premier League  :devil:

Ah tell allyuh dem jokers was going with Pardew... the same imps who park Tevez and Mascherano on de bench and refuse to gih dem run.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 09, 2010, 01:28:34 PM
Pardew hired  ??? Ashley wanted a more experienced coach, so he goes for Pardew, who has a grand total of 17 months experience in the Premier League  :devil:

Ah tell allyuh dem jokers was going with Pardew... the same imps who park Tevez and Mascherano on de bench and refuse to gih dem run.

I thought yuh fart and say Pardon I eh realize is Pardew yuh say  ;D
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 09, 2010, 01:37:44 PM
Pardew loves his English players; watch how he f*cks with the African midfielder who has been holding in down for Newcastle. The simpleton will probably try to build the team around Joey Barton!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 11, 2010, 04:59:56 PM
Breaking News

Carlos Tevez hands in Transfer Request

"Carlos Tevez story is true . . written transfer request, considering quitting football altogether, homesick and unhappy #mcfc"

and

Liverpool lost again... haha
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on December 11, 2010, 06:18:27 PM
Yes dread I was just reading that Tevez scenario just now. I noticed he didn't even dress for today's game, plus he might be considering retirement since he's not getting along with Mancini and is missing his daughters back home. I thought he was having an excellent season, I even had him as captain for my fantasy team so now that's no points from him for the week :cursing:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 11, 2010, 06:22:04 PM
Yes dread I was just reading that Tevez scenario just now. I noticed he didn't even dress for today's game, plus he might be considering retirement since he's not getting along with Mancini and is missing his daughters back home. I thought he was having an excellent season, I even had him as captain for my fantasy team so now that's no points from him for the week :cursing:

apparently he was banned today..I guess he picked up a 5th yellow card

What a idiot though... thank god we got rid of him in the end.. he's a f**king circus... quality player but too much negative press

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on December 11, 2010, 07:12:11 PM
So he want a transfer but to where?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 11, 2010, 08:17:36 PM
So he want a transfer but to where?

maybe he will go back argentina to be closer to his family.
Cyah vex with a man for that.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2010, 08:34:49 PM
apparently he was banned today..I guess he picked up a 5th yellow card

What a idiot though... thank god we got rid of him in the end.. he's a f**king circus... quality player but too much negative press


Sorta like Wayne Rooney... wouldn't you say?

The hypocrisy never ends... you ManU fans still acting like jilted lovers just because Tevez tell allyuh squad tuh fack off, lol
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dumpalewie on December 11, 2010, 09:25:02 PM
I have nothing but ill-will towards Newcastle. I do believe that being black worked against him in addition to them being delusional about themselves.

The EPL is worse than the NFL when it comes to minorities in management. Secondly, minority managers are never given time to prove themselves. Ask John Barnes, Paul Ince and now Chris Houghton.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 11, 2010, 09:51:30 PM
apparently he was banned today..I guess he picked up a 5th yellow card

What a idiot though... thank god we got rid of him in the end.. he's a f**king circus... quality player but too much negative press


Sorta like Wayne Rooney... wouldn't you say?

The hypocrisy never ends... you ManU fans still acting like jilted lovers just because Tevez tell allyuh squad tuh fack off, lol

I know u guys are experts on that, just ask Owen next time he steps on Anfield .  ;D
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2010, 10:33:13 PM
apparently he was banned today..I guess he picked up a 5th yellow card

What a idiot though... thank god we got rid of him in the end.. he's a f**king circus... quality player but too much negative press


Sorta like Wayne Rooney... wouldn't you say?

The hypocrisy never ends... you ManU fans still acting like jilted lovers just because Tevez tell allyuh squad tuh fack off, lol

I know u guys are experts on that, just ask Owen next time he steps on Anfield .  ;D


Owen always got love from Liverpool fans... I dunno what you talking about.  If he get booed because he wearing a ManU shirt how dat compares to the outright hate allyuh harboring all over messageboards for Tevez?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 12, 2010, 08:27:24 AM
I have nothing but ill-will towards Newcastle. I do believe that being black worked against him in addition to them being delusional about themselves.

The EPL is worse than the NFL when it comes to minorities in management. Secondly, minority managers are never given time to prove themselves. Ask John Barnes, Paul Ince and now Chris Houghton.

I have a lot of respect for Houghton and what he achieved and do believe he was unfairly treated. Ince and Barnes well I am not sure. Barnes was way out of his depth at Celtic, jumping straight into management at that level and after losing streak and then in the Scottish Cup to  Inverness Caledonia Thistle 3-1, the writing was on the wall. As for Ince he won 3 games out of 17 and the fans began a campaign to get rid of him. Most managers would get the sack under those circumstances. Just take your mind back the Ramos at Spurs, takes Spurs out of relegation battle, bring their first trophy since the 90's and qualification to UEFA. Then the following season was sacked after 8 games.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kev on December 12, 2010, 09:15:00 AM
I have nothing but ill-will towards Newcastle. I do believe that being black worked against him in addition to them being delusional about themselves.

The EPL is worse than the NFL when it comes to minorities in management. Secondly, minority managers are never given time to prove themselves. Ask John Barnes, Paul Ince and now Chris Houghton.

Think your reading too much into it tbh.  I don't know Ashley but it has been obvious for a long time he didn't want Hughton, He also didn't want Alladyce. Pardew is something like the 9th manager is just over 5 years (not counting stand ins), its worse than even money Pardew will be the manager this time next year. 

I think Barnes desrved the sack and Ince was in danger of relegation which most teams sack their manager.  He wasn't handling it very well and got himself a bit pananoid, heard him since and seems to be much more sane about it. 

I am sure I read somewhere that there aren't that many black/coloured (not sure what is PC anymore so sorry if I offended anybody) people taking coaching badges but could be wrong so don't quote me on it. 

When it comes to replacing managers the top clubs tend to go foriegn, and the rest seem to just get on the same old merrygoround with the same old names switching seats. 

The normal complaint is that young British managers (not white) don't get a chance, the truth is the clubs more likely to take a chance are also the clubs that can with a bad run get themselves into relegation trouble.  I jsut don't think its a "colour / ethnic" problem, its a game problem imho.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 12, 2010, 09:47:59 AM
apparently he was banned today..I guess he picked up a 5th yellow card

What a idiot though... thank god we got rid of him in the end.. he's a f**king circus... quality player but too much negative press


Sorta like Wayne Rooney... wouldn't you say?

The hypocrisy never ends... you ManU fans still acting like jilted lovers just because Tevez tell allyuh squad tuh fack off, lol


Owen always got love from Liverpool fans... I dunno what you talking about.  If he get booed because he wearing a ManU shirt how dat compares to the outright hate allyuh harboring all over messageboards for Tevez?
I know u guys are experts on that, just ask Owen next time he steps on Anfield .  ;D

he was at new castle b4 he came to Utd. Check back at his receptions.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on December 12, 2010, 10:01:17 AM
Well.....i eh suprised by Tevez...somebody telling me he always said he wanted to retire around 28. And as that person also said....."He's won virtually everything except a World Cup and a Copa America"

Quote
Individual:
Silver Olimpia (Argentine Footballer of the Year): 2003, 2004
Golden Olimpia (Argentine Sportsperson of the Year): 2004
Placar Bola de Ouro: 2005
South American Footballer of the Year: 2003, 2004, 2005

Argentina:
Olympics (Also won the Olympic Golden Boot)
U20 World Cup

Boca:
Apertura (league title)
Copa Libertadores (Champions League of South America, also won MVP of the tournament)
Copa Sudamericana (Europa League of South America)
Intercontinental Cup

Corinthians:
Brasileiro League title (Also won the Brasileiro Best Player award)

Manchester United:
Two premier league titles
Champions League
Club World Cup

But i hear his agent was trying for an improved contract..so he could be doing a rooney.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 10:01:46 AM
Drogba on the bench as is Fat Frank!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 10:16:31 AM
Well.....i eh suprised by Tevez...somebody telling me he always said he wanted to retire around 28. And as that person also said....."He's won virtually everything except a World Cup and a Copa America"

Quote
Individual:
Silver Olimpia (Argentine Footballer of the Year): 2003, 2004
Golden Olimpia (Argentine Sportsperson of the Year): 2004
Placar Bola de Ouro: 2005
South American Footballer of the Year: 2003, 2004, 2005

Argentina:
Olympics (Also won the Olympic Golden Boot)
U20 World Cup

Boca:
Apertura (league title)
Copa Libertadores (Champions League of South America, also won MVP of the tournament)
Copa Sudamericana (Europa League of South America)
Intercontinental Cup

Corinthians:
Brasileiro League title (Also won the Brasileiro Best Player award)

Manchester United:
Two premier league titles
Champions League
Club World Cup

But i hear his agent was trying for an improved contract..so he could be doing a rooney.

And or trying to force Mancini out.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: 100% Barataria on December 12, 2010, 10:18:14 AM
Terry look like a statue dey boy, goal spurs
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 10:18:45 AM
Chelski have statues plying in the middle of defense or wat or dey wearing heavy tugs today?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 10:25:41 AM
It seems like obi mikel does be in every shot when a goal score against chelski
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 12, 2010, 10:30:10 AM

he was at new castle b4 he came to Utd. Check back at his receptions.

Oh he was at Newcastle after he left Liverpool?  Well look I never knew that.  ::)

-----------------------------------------------


Spurs up on Chelsea 1-0 (Pavlyuchenko 16') after 25'


Essien is a fantastic player... but he either has a very nasty streak, or is extremely careless with his challenges.  I surprise he eh break somebody foot by now.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 12, 2010, 10:56:33 AM
Well.....i eh suprised by Tevez...somebody telling me he always said he wanted to retire around 28. And as that person also said....."He's won virtually everything except a World Cup and a Copa America"

Quote
Individual:
Silver Olimpia (Argentine Footballer of the Year): 2003, 2004
Golden Olimpia (Argentine Sportsperson of the Year): 2004
Placar Bola de Ouro: 2005
South American Footballer of the Year: 2003, 2004, 2005

Argentina:
Olympics (Also won the Olympic Golden Boot)
U20 World Cup

Boca:
Apertura (league title)
Copa Libertadores (Champions League of South America, also won MVP of the tournament)
Copa Sudamericana (Europa League of South America)
Intercontinental Cup

Corinthians:
Brasileiro League title (Also won the Brasileiro Best Player award)

Manchester United:
Two premier league titles
Champions League
Club World Cup

But i hear his agent was trying for an improved contract..so he could be doing a rooney.

And or trying to force Mancini out.

seems sir alex knew what he was doing when he was reluctant to buy him.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 12, 2010, 11:29:37 AM
Spurs very profligate with their chances... still up 1-0 in the 69', but Ancellotti desperate, Chelsea going all out to get the equalizer and leaving theyself vulnerable at the back.  Spurs could have them on the counter at any time but just can't seem to get it together in the final third.

... well, as I type Drogba equalizes.

Right thru Gomes... 1-1 70'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 11:31:27 AM
Crouch is a shithound, the man is a momentun killer! Why Spurs want tuh play tuh Chelski's strength of playin balls in the air versus keep it on the ground against the lead feet of Chelski's d men!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 12, 2010, 11:52:46 AM
Penalty!

Gomes redemption!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 12, 2010, 11:57:33 AM
I thought it was a harsh penalty... or at least the result would have been really harsh to Spurs.  Nonetheless I was full prepared to laugh at Harry, he got it real wrong by taking off Defoe to sub on Crouch.  Nothing against Crouch, but Harry was hoping that some of the hurried clearances from the back would reach Crouch.  He essentially conceded the attack to Chelsea there, rather than taking it to them as they had been all game.

Happy that Gomes got a chance to redeem himself.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 12, 2010, 11:58:24 AM
I said on another thread that Essien struggled mainly due to match fitness. And Chelski midfield looked always outnumbered.

Anelka pull stones

Not the best football game, but it was packed with excitement

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 12, 2010, 12:50:24 PM
I said on another thread that Essien struggled mainly due to match fitness. And Chelski midfield looked always outnumbered.

Anelka pull stones

Not the best football game, but it was packed with excitement



Your eye sharper than mine... but I thought Essien had a good game.  Palacios and Modric struggled against Essien, Mikel and Ramires in the middle, Essien in particular seemed everywhere.  His yellow for the foul on Modric was harsh, but considering what he got away with on Bale... deserved in the end.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 01:26:45 PM
This guy is serious drama oui!


Manchester City news-Tevez to lift lid on reasons for quitting.

- December 12, 2010 By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent

Carlos Tevez is so adamant he wants to quit Manchester City that he will go public with his reasons which will surely make any decision to force him to stay untenable.


Tevez is now also livid at the club's statement insinuating that he has been manipulated into this decision by his representatives. The Argentine is set to issue a statement indicating the reasons behind his personal decision to quit Eastlands.


And it will open up enormous wounds, when he reveals information about how the club is run, alleged promises made to him, and claims that such promises have been broken.

Tevez rejected a one-off bonus to stay for the season, the biggest ever offered to a single player, but he turned it down because nearly six months ago, he had virtually made up his mind he wanted to quit the club.

Bitter resentment that has been bubbling just below the surface is about to explode and the ramifications could be immense for City. Tevez paints a picture of disarray behind the scenes at one of the wealthiest clubs in the world, if not the richest.

It likely to make Tevez ever playing again for the club virtually impossible, and certainly unthinkable beyond the January transfer window and will intensify the pressure on manager Roberto Mancini and also the senior management team behind the scenes.

ESPNsoccernet has been given a full insight into the reasons why Tevez, the team's captain and talisman, wants to leave.

Tevez has shocked the title challengers by submitting a formal transfer request, which has brought a reaction from City in turning it down, and now Tevez will react by going public on his reasons for wanting to leave.


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Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on December 12, 2010, 01:46:59 PM
Real Drama queen ting. Fergie looking more and more like he was right.

Although the real ting is....de money to buy him outright was only available after Ronaldo got sold. When an offer was made to him...he done make up he mind he wasnt staying cuz dey take too long. So......dis kinda keeping in character.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Daft Trini on December 12, 2010, 03:59:50 PM
Real Drama queen ting. Fergie looking more and more like he was right.

Although the real ting is....de money to buy him outright was only available after Ronaldo got sold. When an offer was made to him...he done make up he mind he wasnt staying cuz dey take too long. So......dis kinda keeping in character.



Factor in his inability to speak english and add that to the equation....
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on December 12, 2010, 04:44:09 PM
Real Drama queen ting. Fergie looking more and more like he was right.

Although the real ting is....de money to buy him outright was only available after Ronaldo got sold. When an offer was made to him...he done make up he mind he wasnt staying cuz dey take too long. So......dis kinda keeping in character.



Factor in his inability to speak english and add that to the equation....

Yep. Buh still...i think he Evra and Park used to get along. Dunno how. I reading somewhere that he STILL eh know dat much english.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 05:03:24 PM
  Home U.K. Home News  Carlos Tevez explains his reasons for wanting to leave Manchester City after club reject written transfer request

By Ian Ladyman and Lee Clayton
Last updated at 9:32 PM on 12th December 2010

Carlos Tevez turned his fire on Manchester City Executive chairman Garry Cook on Sunday night as he outlined his reasons for wanting to leave the club.
Speaking for the first time since his dramatic decision to ask for a transfer last week, Tevez - on a club-approved holiday in Tenerife - issued a statement in which he revealed he has no problem with manager Roberto Mancini.

In the statement, Tevez:

Repeated his desire to leave
Revealed his relationship with the club is 'beyond repair'
Insisted the decision to go is his alone and that he has not been influenced to ask to leave.

Tevez, who could walk away from football if City insist on holding him to his three and a half year contract, said he had spent 'many hours thinking it through' and admitted he had wanted to go last summer. He said that he has rejected a new contract and insisted his desire to leave is 'not about money.'

On Sunday night, Chelsea, with a new transfer budget for manager Carlos Ancelotti, were believed to be monitoring the situation. 

City had earlier attacked Tevez's mentor Kia Joorabchian. They say Tevez is the highest paid player at the club and claim he is being influenced to leave. That provoked an angry reaction from Tevez.
‘I have not been influenced by anyone else in making this decision,' he said. 'It is something I have felt for some time and have spent many hours thinking this through. I wanted to leave in the summer, but was influenced then and convinced to return to the club. Sadly, my feelings have not changed. I hugely resent the management's suggestions that I have been unduly influenced by others.
'I am disappointed that the management should now see fit to try to portray the situation in another light. My relationship with certain executives and individuals at the club  has broken down and is now beyond repair. I do not wish to expand on this at this stage. They know, because I have told them.'
 Happier times: Tevez is all smiles upon his arrival at Eastlands in July 2009
Tevez thanked the fans for their support during his time at the club, adding: 'Since signing for Manchester city, I have enjoyed playing for the supporters. They have welcomed me to the club and I regret that it has come to this. They deserve success as reward for their passionate and patient support. The club is very fortunate to have supporters like this

'Anybody who has watched me play for Manchester City, cannot question my commitment and passion for the club whenever I have worn the shirt.'
Tevez, who informed the club of his decision last Wednesday, continued: 'I can confirm I have handed a transfer request to the chairman of Manchester City Football Club, And now I need to clear my head and think because this is an important part of my career. My feelings have not changed and it is regrettable we have reached this situation.
‘I could have signed an improved contract, offered by the club for this season, however this decision is not about money. I have made that clear to both the board and the management on several occasions.' City deny his version of events relating to his contract offer.
 Leading by example? Tevez was handed the captaincy at the start of the season - but has revealed he wanted to leave the club back in the summer
He continued: 'The owner has been very generous with what he has offered to me. I would like to thank the owner Sheik Mansour for his understanding and support.'
In a surprising move, Tevez supported manager Roberto Mancini and said: 'I wish to clarify that I have no personal issue with the manager Roberto Mancini.'

With Mancini in Italy to visit his father and undergo some minor medical treatment on his eye, the City manager was being kept informed of developments by his coaching staff.
One of the things he is considering in the short-term is whether to relieve Tevez of the captaincy. In the longer term, City have rejected Tevez's request and insist he won't be sold when the transfer window opens in January.

The club feel it is Joorabchian who is driving the matter, though, and came out fighting on Sunday by revealing that Tevez is already the club's highest paid player.

A City statement said: 'The club remain disappointed and particularly with the actions of Carlos' representative.
'The written transfer request is in stark contrast to Carlos' stated position in public.
'Significantly, over recent months, the club has also received numerous requests from Carlos' representative to renegotiate and improve his playing contract as well as more recently a request to extend that contract by another year.
'This has not been granted. He is the highest paid player at the club.'

Tevez was initially due to be included in the City squad that travels to Italy for a Europa League dead rubber against Juventus on Thursday. It is now thought that he will not go, nor will any of the team that won at West Ham on Saturday.

 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Cantona007 on December 13, 2010, 01:19:35 AM
apparently he was banned today..I guess he picked up a 5th yellow card

What a idiot though... thank god we got rid of him in the end.. he's a f**king circus... quality player but too much negative press


Sorta like Wayne Rooney... wouldn't you say?

The hypocrisy never ends... you ManU fans still acting like jilted lovers just because Tevez tell allyuh squad tuh fack off, lol

I thought the story was that the evil Ferguson showed him no love and told Teveth to fack off?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Big Magician on December 13, 2010, 05:51:46 AM
Modric rocks..
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Touches on December 13, 2010, 11:27:43 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/blackburn_rovers/9283395.stm


Sam Allardyce leaves Blackburn with immediate effect

Allardyce took over at Ewood Park in December 2008

Blackburn announced they have sacked manager Sam Allardyce.

Allardyce was relieved of his duties along with his assistant Neil McDonald by the club's new owners, the Venky's Group from India.

Blackburn have lost three out of their last five games, including a 2-1 defeat by his former club Bolton on Sunday.

"We have taken this decision as part of our wider plans and ambitions for the club," Rovers said in a statement on their website on Monday.

Rovers are currently 13th in the Premier League, five points above the relegation zone.

Current first-team coach Steve Kean will take temporary charge of the club.

Allardyce joined Blackburn in December 2008 and guided the Lancashire club to a respectable 10th place in the Premier League last season.

Former Blackburn midfielder Robbie Savage said he was "shocked" to learn of Allardyce's departure from Ewood Park.

"I know the chairman John Williams well but it's obviously the owners who have made this decision," the former Wales international told BBC Radio 5 live.

"Big Sam has a big ego and maybe they clashed.

"He was doing a good job, what do people expect? He will be very disappointed."

The Rao family completed their £43m takeover of Rovers through their newly formed company, Venky's London Limited, on 19 October.

And Venky's chairwoman Anuradha Desai had told the BBC last month that the group had "promised manager Allardyce funds to spend in the January transfer window".

But in a statement on Monday, the club said: "We would like to put on record our thanks to Mr Allardyce for his contribution to Blackburn Rovers Football Club."
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: College on December 13, 2010, 11:57:03 AM
Tis the season...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 13, 2010, 12:52:52 PM
I am sure dey looking for dey shitty and ugly side tuh play sexy football!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Change on December 13, 2010, 12:53:08 PM
ANY LIVE ONLINE LINKS FOR TODAY'S GAME ARSENAL VS MAN U???
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on December 13, 2010, 02:07:13 PM
atdhe.net

Men vs boys today, maybe the boys can win this time.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 13, 2010, 02:55:24 PM
Pretty even first half.
Much like the Arsenal- Chelsea game. arsenal don't look outmatched. Another class goal though. This rounds they might just be badlucky.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on December 13, 2010, 02:56:36 PM
Arsenal kinda scrambling at the back.  They not sure of themselves.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2010, 02:58:15 PM
arsenal resorting to kicking  and fouling we players to stop we knock.
 
Webb tolerate it as much as he could.


Apart from that, everyone seems to be slipping.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on December 13, 2010, 03:29:13 PM
Wha Rio was doin with his foot extended like that?
Nasty play.

That is a harsh way to concede a penalty.

ROONEY HITS IT INTO ORBIT!!!!! lol that was a bad miss.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 13, 2010, 03:32:27 PM
Shit Penalty!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 13, 2010, 03:33:08 PM
arsenal resorting to kicking  and fouling we players to stop we knock.
 
Webb tolerate it as much as he could.


Apart from that, everyone seems to be slipping.


As I said elsewhere... you does only see what yuh want to see.  At one point some years ago I made the argument that Howard Webb is the best referee in the EPL.  Well is either things real change or I was wrong, because Webb is horrible, and worse, prone to being influenced, particularly at Old Trafford.  I won't even bring up the Derby against City last year when he fish the extra 6 mins out he ass to favor Utd.  Now Rio come in with ah de Jong specialty and rip ah 8-inch hole in Sagna shirt as the studs connect tuh mid-riff.  Webb wave play on like nutten happen.  How de ass ah man jump to head ah ball and lead with ah high foot and you ent blow nutten?


--------------------

Now he award a shit penalty against Clichy.  Ball kicked tuh hand while the man on de ground... what he supposed to do... disappear?

Justice... God doh like ugly.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 13, 2010, 03:33:23 PM
Karma!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 13, 2010, 04:03:20 PM
Webb is a weak referee even though he is FIFA and UEFA blue eye boy.

That being said ManU deserve the result today. Stay compact challenge Arsenal to pick you apart with passing & Arsenal could not not do it. Arsenal were too slow.

Well taken goal by Park
Best Roonie game to date
Best Anderson game to date


Two central defenders and Sagna looked solid.
Good night for the young keeper.


As I said in an earlier thread Clichy allow way too many crosses to enter the box.
The Clichy back back like he sword fighting, till Nani enter the penalty area and its now difficult to challenge.

Arshavin needs to be dropped! Does nno help defend and looked off the pace.
Young Wilshire looked off the pace
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 13, 2010, 04:04:56 PM
Not the greatest game. United score first and then play like Bolton for the rest of the game.
Arsenal had no ideas and never seriously troubled Van Der Sar.

Arshavin pressing too much. Chamakh was out of it. Nasri too, out on the wing and out of the game.

Wenger should have put in Walcott earlier. I think and Van-Persie/Fabregas subs was just just hoping they produce some magic.

Solid defensive effort by United. Getting back to the Ferdinand + Vidic + Van Der Sar = Clean Sheet formula.

In the end, the real talisman for United - Park did the job.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 13, 2010, 04:08:54 PM
I only saw the second half, but for me Clichy was boss... every time Nani challenge he shut him dong.  The only wrong foot was ah hand... and he really couldn't do nutten about that.

Arshavin juss steady Arse-shaving deez days... he star in nova.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2010, 04:34:55 PM
arsenal resorting to kicking  and fouling we players to stop we knock.
 
Webb tolerate it as much as he could.


Apart from that, everyone seems to be slipping.


As I said elsewhere... you does only see what yuh want to see.  At one point some years ago I made the argument that Howard Webb is the best referee in the EPL.  Well is either things real change or I was wrong, because Webb is horrible, and worse, prone to being influenced, particularly at Old Trafford.  I won't even bring up the Derby against City last year when he fish the extra 6 mins out he ass to favor Utd.  Now Rio come in with ah de Jong specialty and rip ah 8-inch hole in Sagna shirt as the studs connect tuh mid-riff.  Webb wave play on like nutten happen.  How de ass ah man jump to head ah ball and lead with ah high foot and you ent blow nutten?


--------------------

Now he award a shit penalty against Clichy.  Ball kicked tuh hand while the man on de ground... what he supposed to do... disappear?

Justice... God doh like ugly.

True that ...just look at liverpool.
anyhow, my post above was at half time b4 rio made that challenge, but u wouldnt know cause u didnt see the first half right?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 13, 2010, 04:37:08 PM
Desreved win.

Shyte call on the PK. Clichy got better in the 2nd half.

Arsenal looked like they forget you have to score in the game.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 13, 2010, 04:43:15 PM
True that ...just look at liverpool.
anyhow, my post above was at half time b4 rio made that challenge, but u wouldnt know cause u didnt see the first half right?

If you want to be funny go look in the mirror... although knowing you yuh'd probably probably try to ride the jackass staring back at yuh.

You making that post befor the Rio challenge doesn't hide the fact you are biased and incapable of offering anything objective when it comes to ManU.  I just finished watching the first half and it only proves what I was saying.  There's no way Webb could call some of them soft fouls, especially on Song, and let hatchetman Fletcher get away without a talking-to.  Oh, wait... they play at Old Trafford, so no real surprise.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Sando prince on December 13, 2010, 04:44:22 PM
Boy Man U looking good right now  ;D
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Fantastic on December 13, 2010, 04:49:11 PM
Aresenal look like dey coach does end dey practice after de possession drills. 5 pass get a point, first to 10 go home, de rest stay and work on juggling and looking pretty on de ball.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 13, 2010, 04:55:21 PM
Men vs Boys..again

We were quite good today..sharp,fast and hungry... we were unlucky not to score more..Nani's volley which passed by an inch..Nani's miss..Anderson's little chip(which was excellently saved) and Rooney's penalty and his chip in the end all could have been goals...Arsenal only had the one chance when Vidic blocked the Chamakh effort

Hopefully we can play at that level at the bridge...once we dont lose there we have a great chance of winning the title

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 13, 2010, 05:32:25 PM
Desreved win.

Shyte call on the PK. Clichy got better in the 2nd half.

Arsenal looked like they forget you have to score in the game.

Have to agree that Clichy did do better in the second half.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2010, 06:55:18 PM
Desreved win.

Shyte call on the PK. Clichy got better in the 2nd half.

Arsenal looked like they forget you have to score in the game.

Have to agree that Clichy did do better in the second half.

allyuh keeper play real good too.......
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2010, 06:56:16 PM
True that ...just look at liverpool.
anyhow, my post above was at half time b4 rio made that challenge, but u wouldnt know cause u didnt see the first half right?

If you want to be funny go look in the mirror... although knowing you yuh'd probably probably try to ride the jackass staring back at yuh.

You making that post befor the Rio challenge doesn't hide the fact you are biased and incapable of offering anything objective when it comes to ManU.  I just finished watching the first half and it only proves what I was saying.  There's no way Webb could call some of them soft fouls, especially on Song, and let hatchetman Fletcher get away without a talking-to.  Oh, wait... they play at Old Trafford, so no real surprise.
ouch.....i guess u done told me off......boohoo  :'( :'( :'(

Someone please chalk another victory for BnS.....
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 18, 2010, 04:18:34 AM
Lots of games on TV this weekend... as usual.

Home team listed first, all times EDT:


Saturday December 18

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/78/f3/0,,12306~3339128,00.gif)  Sunderland v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/67/f3/0,,12306~3339111,00.gif)  Bolton Wanderers- 7:30 am ESPN2/ESPN3.com

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/be/9f/0,,12306~6004670,00.gif)  Birmingham v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/76/92/0,,12306~8819318,00.gif)  Newcastle United- 9:55 am FSP

Birmingham has had LA Galaxy Edson Buddle on trial all of this past week and Manager, Alex McLeish has indicated that interest is strong enough that the trial has been extended to another week.  Remains to be seen if an agreement will be reached and whether Buddle will prove the talisman that Donovan was las winter for Everton, but still a very positive statement on Buddle's growth as a player the past couple seasons.  Certainly can't argue with 19 goals in 28 games for the Galaxy.

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif)  Arsenal v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c1/46/0,,12306~3688129,00.gif)  Stoke City- 10 am FSC/Fox Deportes

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6c/f3/0,,12306~3339116,00.gif)  Fulham - 12:30 pm FSC/Fox Deportes


Sunday December 19

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/73/92/0,,12306~8819315,00.gif)  Blackpool United v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/79/f3/0,,12306~3339129,00.gif)  Tottenham Hotspurs- 8:30 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/77/92/0,,12306~8819319,00.gif)  West Bromwich Albion v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c6/9f/0,,12306~6004678,00.gif)  Wolverhampton 10:30 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif)  Chelsea v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/72/f3/0,,12306~3339122,00.gif)  Manchester United- 11 am FSC/Fox Deportes


Monday December 20

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif)  Manchester City v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6b/f3/0,,12306~3339115,00.gif)  Everton- 2:55 pm ESPN2/ESPN3.com
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on December 18, 2010, 07:44:56 AM
Sunderland and Bolten Wanderers is quite a good game so far (half time) but i'm hearing from the comentators the ManU v Chelsea game tomorrow is cancelled due to weather. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Daft Trini on December 18, 2010, 09:58:22 AM
Sunderland and Bolten Wanderers is quite a good game so far (half time) but i'm hearing from the comentators the ManU v Chelsea game tomorrow is cancelled due to weather. 

yeah both london airports are closed... no flights in so I'm guessing the game is canceled also
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 18, 2010, 11:10:21 AM
Sunderland and Bolten Wanderers is quite a good game so far (half time) but i'm hearing from the comentators the ManU v Chelsea game tomorrow is cancelled due to weather. 

yeah both london airports are closed... no flights in so I'm guessing the game is canceled also

That might probably explain why I tune in expecting to see the Arsenal v. Stoke game and was seeing the Spurs v. Chelsea replay instead.

EDIT:

Just seeing this...

Heavy snow has forced the postponement of seven Barclays Premier League matches this weekend.  First to go was Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa, quickly followed by Liverpool v Fulham, Birmingham City v Newcastle, and Arsenal v Stoke- all on safety grounds.  This was followed by Sunday's fixture between Chelsea and Manchester United and later by the postponement of the Black Country derby between West Bromwich Albion and Wolverhampton Wanderers and Blackpool v Tottenham Hotspur.

http://www.premierleague.com/page/Headlines/0,,12306~2247283,00.html
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 18, 2010, 07:52:32 PM
Chelsea get away....
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dotless007 on December 19, 2010, 02:20:05 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg6o8w_same-old-arse_webcam#from=embed&start=202

same old arsenal always cheating.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 20, 2010, 02:09:51 PM
City's defense in early shambles.... 1-0 Everton (Cahill 5')


Tevez in the lineup... and supposedly he withdraw he transfer request.



EDIT: 

2-0 Toffees... Lleyton Baines curls in a right-footer from 20 yards.   Mancini apoplectic.


City have a lot of questions to be answered, and not only on the field.  41 players on the first team and only 11 can start at any one time.  Big name players like Adebayor, Lescott, Shea Givens, SWP, Roque Santa Cruz... cyah sniff the pitch.  Much agitation amongst the ranks.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 20, 2010, 02:20:31 PM
City's defense in early shambles.... 1-0 Everton (Cahill 5')


Tevez in the lineup... and supposedly he withdraw he transfer request.

Yuh mean 2-0. Baines in the 19th
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 20, 2010, 04:02:21 PM
Hahaha what a joke City are...they made sure the game went ahead..pulled out everything to have it on because if they won they would be top ahead of United by Christmas for the 1st time in 81 years

hahahahaha
This is how it feels to be Cityyyy
This is how it feels to be Smalllll
This is how it feels for your team to win nothing at allllll

Great stuff by Everton today..10 men from the 60th and City played with a 4 man defense till the 90th lollll
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 20, 2010, 05:18:28 PM
What a second goal by Everton  :applause:

City for all that money !!!!! Only three points different from when they fired Mark Hughes. The fact remains is that they did not buy to build a squad, they just bought. Like a child in a candy store. They still have potential though.

PS: For all the talk of Tevez, no one could ever accuse him of not doing everthing possible to win. That man is a beast
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 02:50:10 PM
Arsenal v. Chelsea on now on ESPN2/ESPN3.com


Arsenal up 1-0 at the half (Song 44') and playing all over Chelsea.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on December 27, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
Arsenal keepin possession well. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:03:06 PM
Van Persie and Fabregas have a bigger influence on the game than their last outing.  Walcott making a difference and Djourou is doing ok so far.  Is Squillaci the new Senderos?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:03:48 PM
hopin arsenal do what they usually do and pop down in the second half
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:07:02 PM
Mikel off, Ramires on
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on December 27, 2010, 03:09:23 PM
hopin arsenal do what they usually do and pop down in the second half

 :devil: 2 nil
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:10:17 PM
Chelsea in a Mess!
Fire Ancelotti Now!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:11:09 PM
A Fine Mess!

Licks like fire!

3-0 Walcott!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on December 27, 2010, 03:11:16 PM
3 nil  :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 03:11:55 PM
hopin arsenal do what they usually do and pop down in the second half

If yuh eh look sharp they go pop Chelsea net down... 3-0.  Walcott with the assist to Fabregas on the second goal, then they switch roles on the third.

Chelsea still in de locker room.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:12:24 PM
We getting shredded   :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:12:31 PM
WDMC!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:13:10 PM
Is this the moment when Arsenal come of age? or is this the decline of Chelsea.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:13:34 PM
time for Roman to spend some forkin money  >:(
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:14:07 PM
Malouda off, Kalkuta on.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: AirMan on December 27, 2010, 03:14:56 PM
ah surprise nobody bump the Chelsea forever thread yet  :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:15:25 PM
The comeback begins!

3-1
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:15:48 PM
3 MOREEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:15:56 PM
time for Roman to spend some forkin money  >:(

Money for what?  Poor tactics and personnel choices.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:17:06 PM
ah surprise nobody bump the Chelsea forever thread yet  :devil:

We doh hide badman, we does take we cutarse big and bold. We doh use the excuse "we doh post when we watching the game". We getting we arse cut.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on December 27, 2010, 03:18:26 PM
ah surprise nobody bump the Chelsea forever thread yet  :devil:

We doh hide badman, we does take we cutarse big and bold. We doh use the excuse "we doh post when we watching the game". We getting we arse cut.

no alyuh does be at church  :devil:

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:19:58 PM
Final change
Bosingwa on for Ferreira
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 03:22:36 PM
time for Roman to spend some forkin money  >:(

Money for what?  Poor tactics and personnel choices.

That, plus Roman tired losing money.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:22:57 PM
Final change
Bosingwa on for Ferreira

That should have been in the first 5 minutes
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:31:39 PM
Walcott off, Diaby on.

Can they close up shop?  Is it even possible for an Arsenal side to do that?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:35:12 PM
Van Persie off, Chamakh on.

I eh go lie, you would never use Van Persie and speed in the same sentence eh.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:39:23 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:39:41 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

most definitely
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 03:40:50 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on December 27, 2010, 03:44:34 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
        I don't think he is a bad player is just that Chelsea is not the team for him,he not fitting in with those guys.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:46:01 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
        I don't think he is a bad player is just that Chelsea is not the team for him,he not fitting in with those guys.

The man decision making rel poor. He don't exude any Braziliam attributes whatsoever.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:46:52 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
        I don't think he is a bad player is just that Chelsea is not the team for him,he not fitting in with those guys.

I don't think so either. We know South Americans tend to take time to settle in the EPL. (if ever). But that shot get me blasted vex!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:48:56 PM
I think Djourou has done a decent job on Drogba in this game. I wonder if Anelka and his badmind would make a difference.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 27, 2010, 03:49:33 PM
Walcott off, Diaby on.

Can they close up shop?  Is it even possible for an Arsenal side to do that?

Why not.  Chelsea looking toothless right now. Just putting in that ball into the box and hoping.  No combination play around the box at all.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 27, 2010, 03:51:26 PM
Kakuta way off pace.  Not making the runs for ball played into box.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 03:52:57 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
        I don't think he is a bad player is just that Chelsea is not the team for him,he not fitting in with those guys.

Agreed... is just a poor signing.  Look Aquilani tearing it up for Juventus when he couldn't even come off the bench at Liverpool.  Too much expectations coupled with a poor fit= recipe for failure, true of both situations.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
        I don't think he is a bad player is just that Chelsea is not the team for him,he not fitting in with those guys.

he is a shithong coops. enough chance he get to show himself and fit in with the team. he not sayin anything. he is still playin like its his first game with chelsea
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Touches on December 27, 2010, 04:01:06 PM
Where Omar?

Is wood Chelsea collect and it coulda be 5...nasri chip and diaby looking for foot.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 27, 2010, 04:04:41 PM
aye boy..Arsenal didnt f**k it up, surprise surprise...  still going to be out the race by March

the further Chelsea are, the better
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on December 27, 2010, 04:40:41 PM
Leh me ask a question....what did chelsea buy ramieres to be really?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 05:11:44 PM
Leh me ask a question....what did chelsea buy ramieres to be really?

De token Brazilian mantle piece... in which case they were highly successful.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: fari on December 27, 2010, 05:24:51 PM
Leh me ask a question....what did chelsea buy ramieres to be really?

when i see he coming on 2nd half i say nah this cyah be the big comeback.  i sorry de epl have a bidone de oro b/c he is a prime candidate
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on December 27, 2010, 05:36:53 PM
Leh me ask a question....what did chelsea buy ramieres to be really?

when i see he coming on 2nd half i say nah this cyah be the big comeback.  i sorry de epl have a bidone de oro b/c he is a prime candidate


Now me eh dogging the man eh. Cuz the EPL learning curve steep. And i find people should have a degree of patience for him. Not dat i mind eh....buh still.....I find people being over harsh. I trying to find out what people want from him that he not doing. Ting is..what was he bought to be? A goal scoring midfielder when he never was that? Come on.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 27, 2010, 05:38:21 PM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 27, 2010, 05:42:20 PM
Roman going to spend spend spend in Jan

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 27, 2010, 06:10:58 PM
Allyuh harsh we, the man now come into the league and he has played some decent games to date. It is always difficult to come into a new league, think of how quality players struggle in their first season.

Arsenal did very well today especially by defending high up the pitch. Walcott and Nasri kept the fullbacks honest and Sagna and Clichy did well. Djourou makes a big difference, at least today anyway.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 27, 2010, 07:12:57 PM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 27, 2010, 07:43:15 PM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 27, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kev on December 28, 2010, 05:45:34 AM
Roman going to spend spend spend in Jan



Is he though???

Upto a season or two ago he had pumped into Chelsea £2 Million a week, don't know what it is lately.  Seems to be going the buy all decent youth route.  Aging squad with mostly untried / unproven / potential youngsters. 

Is he more interested in Russia World Cup / team than Chelski atm.  A lot of 30ish players.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: andre samuel on December 28, 2010, 06:22:07 AM
All i can say is that this is a deliberate ploy by Chelsea to weed out the waggonists!!

lol

We are an aging squad and we are in a really bad patch.  We are also a woefully shallow squad.  One look at the Chelsea bench and you would have realised that.

There is no way u can challenge for a title with a bench of Kakuta, Ramirez, Bosingwa, McEarchren, Van Anholt and Bruma.

When i looked on the arsenal bench, I saw, Arshavin, Diaby, Rosicky, Bentner, Chamakh....mismatch by a mile!!

Now we have to look over our shoulder for Tottenham.

Pressha!!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Touches on December 28, 2010, 06:30:36 AM
Andre

who yuh fooling with that post and talking bout bench...alyuh put out the strongest Chelsea 11...barring Anelka.

Just admit yuh side get wash nah. Dey play shit and men did not step up.

Walcott deal with Cashley, obi Mikel shit down heself, Lampard try but had no support and Drogba still have malaria.

Maluda and Kalou did ZERO.

Terry, Ivanovic and Chec keep alyuh in it.

This game was not determined by the bench...it was lost when alyuh look to play on the counter. You all did not run at us and the men who does always hurt us...Essien and Drogba get dealt with.

Chelsea is a now come up waggonist side...once paper stop spending alyuh gorn tru.



Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 28, 2010, 07:28:03 AM
Roman has a new toy called the world cup.


P.S i can see tottenham and maybe Man City getting a lot of new "supporters" in the near future.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on December 28, 2010, 07:32:21 AM
Chelsea is a now come up waggonist side...once paper stop spending alyuh gorn tru.

so true, Chelsea was nothing before the paper start, once that gone, is right back to zero.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 28, 2010, 08:07:08 AM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
        I don't think he is a bad player is just that Chelsea is not the team for him,he not fitting in with those guys.

Agreed... is just a poor signing.  Look Aquilani tearing it up for Juventus when he couldn't even come off the bench at Liverpool.  Too much expectations coupled with a poor fit= recipe for failure, true of both situations.


 I agree, Chelsea may not be the right team for him. And to say that he does not show Brazilian attributes is a joke. What Brazilian attributes had Dunga shown as  player. He was workhorse all the way.  But he won and WC and coached. Chelsea with all their fantastic play at times has been mercurial this season. Injuries has unsettled the team also. And then the Ray Wilkins affair appeared to be an omen of some sorts. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 28, 2010, 08:24:39 AM
All i can say is that this is a deliberate ploy by Chelsea to weed out the waggonists!!

lol

We are an aging squad and we are in a really bad patch.  We are also a woefully shallow squad.  One look at the Chelsea bench and you would have realised that.

There is no way u can challenge for a title with a bench of Kakuta, Ramirez, Bosingwa, McEarchren, Van Anholt and Bruma.

When i looked on the arsenal bench, I saw, Arshavin, Diaby, Rosicky, Bentner, Chamakh....mismatch by a mile!!

Now we have to look over our shoulder for Tottenham.

Pressha!!

Allyuh wasnt saying that when teams were getting hit for 6 in the first few games ....

all of a sudden is a old man team

haha allyuh good

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 08:49:19 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 09:00:40 AM
Newcastle's keeper is one shitsnake!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 28, 2010, 09:51:32 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?

Since yuh wanna play yuh don't know, let meh remind yuh that JOM plays an attaking midfield for Nigeria since the U-17 World Cup in finland, 2003.   Chelsea has made it their business to use him as a defensive mid (and who knows what position manu was lookin' to use him as) and I don't give a shit what you want to try to reason as "what Chelsea does see in practice" because the whole world saw what he did in Holland in 2005, particulalrly what he did to them Argentinians in the final.  Yes, that was 5 years ago, but it was then and always has been the basis for my continued contention of WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.   Argentina was absolutely outplayed by Nigeria and JOM was the man pulling all the strings for Nigeria and I have the tape if you want to review/dispute it.  Maybe you can see for yourself "what Chelsea does see in practice" and scratch yuh head like me.

  Allyuh does want to have debate issues so hypocritically it ain't funny.  You want to use a team's tactics as a basis for singling out one player as not being good.  YOU know all too well that Chelsea had TWO, no, make dat THREE good wingers in SWP and Arjen Robben (that divin' bitch!) and Joe Cole and showed no commitment to playing on the wings.  Now the team want to use the fullbacks as overlapping "wingers" and we doh have no established wingers in the squad.  Go figure.  Look how long it has been takin' Chelsea to establish an attacking partnership between Drogba and Anelka.  You think arsene9 or alex wasn't going to done forcefully apply all the necessary permutations of that combination (and Kalou) to whatever advantage the team can garner from it?  Gimme a break, giggsy.  As I said before, when MY team came out hot and sweaty out the starting blocks, JOM was getting accolades all around (even from some non-believers on this forum) as being one of the best players on the team.  Now, during the team's 8-game slide, I agree he hasn't played his best, but it hasn't been all his fault.  But you constantly singling him out (and I know why) and everybody else singling out Ramires....rather unfairly.  the man get two terrible passes yesterday in the heart of the defence and did the best he could with them and men talkin' shit.  Allyuh good oui!  I ask you to account for some of the other players on my team doing and all you using is flawed logic to digress.  Lampard was absolutely ineffective for the entire game yesterday as we all would agree.  Did Ancelotti take him off?  No.  So "substitutions" don't always have to do with any one player playin' more shit than anybody else like you infer.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 10:06:16 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?

Since yuh wanna play yuh don't know, let meh remind yuh that JOM plays an attaking midfield for Nigeria since the U-17 World Cup in finland, 2003.   Chelsea has made it their business to use him as a defensive mid (and who knows what position manu was lookin' to use him as) and I don't give a shit what you want to try to reason as "what Chelsea does see in practice" because the whole world saw what he did in Holland in 2005, particulalrly what he did to them Argentinians in the final.  Yes, that was 5 years ago, but it was then and always has been the basis for my continued contention of WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.   Argentina was absolutely outplayed by Nigeria and JOM was the man pulling all the strings for Nigeria and I have the tape if you want to review/dispute it.  Maybe you can see for yourself "what Chelsea does see in practice" and scratch yuh head like me.

  Allyuh does want to have debate issues so hypocritically it ain't funny.  You want to use a team's tactics as a basis for singling out one player as not being good.  YOU know all too well that Chelsea had TWO, no, make dat THREE good wingers in SWP and Arjen Robben (that divin' bitch!) and Joe Cole and showed no commitment to playing on the wings.  Now the team want to use the fullbacks as overlapping "wingers" and we doh have no established wingers in the squad.  Go figure.  Look how long it has been takin' Chelsea to establish an attacking partnership between Drogba and Anelka.  You think arsene9 or alex wasn't going to done forcefully apply all the necessary permutations of that combination (and Kalou) to whatever advantage the team can garner from it?  Gimme a break, giggsy.  As I said before, when MY team came out hot and sweaty out the starting blocks, JOM was getting accolades all around (even from some non-believers on this forum) as being one of the best players on the team.  Now, during the team's 8-game slide, I agree he hasn't played his best, but it hasn't been all his fault.  But you constantly singling him out (and I know why) and everybody else singling out Ramires....rather unfairly.  the man get two terrible passes yesterday in the heart of the defence and did the best he could with them and men talkin' shit.  Allyuh good oui!  I ask you to account for some of the other players on my team doing and all you using is flawed logic to digress.  Lampard was absolutely ineffective for the entire game yesterday as we all would agree.  Did Ancelotti take him off?  No.  So "substitutions" don't always have to do with any one player playin' more shit than anybody else like you infer.

Why am I singling him  out like you say?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 28, 2010, 10:17:09 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?

Since yuh wanna play yuh don't know, let meh remind yuh that JOM plays an attaking midfield for Nigeria since the U-17 World Cup in finland, 2003.   Chelsea has made it their business to use him as a defensive mid (and who knows what position manu was lookin' to use him as) and I don't give a shit what you want to try to reason as "what Chelsea does see in practice" because the whole world saw what he did in Holland in 2005, particulalrly what he did to them Argentinians in the final.  Yes, that was 5 years ago, but it was then and always has been the basis for my continued contention of WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.   Argentina was absolutely outplayed by Nigeria and JOM was the man pulling all the strings for Nigeria and I have the tape if you want to review/dispute it.  Maybe you can see for yourself "what Chelsea does see in practice" and scratch yuh head like me.

  Allyuh does want to have debate issues so hypocritically it ain't funny.  You want to use a team's tactics as a basis for singling out one player as not being good.  YOU know all too well that Chelsea had TWO, no, make dat THREE good wingers in SWP and Arjen Robben (that divin' bitch!) and Joe Cole and showed no commitment to playing on the wings.  Now the team want to use the fullbacks as overlapping "wingers" and we doh have no established wingers in the squad.  Go figure.  Look how long it has been takin' Chelsea to establish an attacking partnership between Drogba and Anelka.  You think arsene9 or alex wasn't going to done forcefully apply all the necessary permutations of that combination (and Kalou) to whatever advantage the team can garner from it?  Gimme a break, giggsy.  As I said before, when MY team came out hot and sweaty out the starting blocks, JOM was getting accolades all around (even from some non-believers on this forum) as being one of the best players on the team.  Now, during the team's 8-game slide, I agree he hasn't played his best, but it hasn't been all his fault.  But you constantly singling him out (and I know why) and everybody else singling out Ramires....rather unfairly.  the man get two terrible passes yesterday in the heart of the defence and did the best he could with them and men talkin' shit.  Allyuh good oui!  I ask you to account for some of the other players on my team doing and all you using is flawed logic to digress.  Lampard was absolutely ineffective for the entire game yesterday as we all would agree.  Did Ancelotti take him off?  No.  So "substitutions" don't always have to do with any one player playin' more shit than anybody else like you infer.

Why am I singling him  out like you say?

You know why, giggsy.  I doh have to spell it out fuh yuh. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 10:30:30 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?

Since yuh wanna play yuh don't know, let meh remind yuh that JOM plays an attaking midfield for Nigeria since the U-17 World Cup in finland, 2003.   Chelsea has made it their business to use him as a defensive mid (and who knows what position manu was lookin' to use him as) and I don't give a shit what you want to try to reason as "what Chelsea does see in practice" because the whole world saw what he did in Holland in 2005, particulalrly what he did to them Argentinians in the final.  Yes, that was 5 years ago, but it was then and always has been the basis for my continued contention of WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.   Argentina was absolutely outplayed by Nigeria and JOM was the man pulling all the strings for Nigeria and I have the tape if you want to review/dispute it.  Maybe you can see for yourself "what Chelsea does see in practice" and scratch yuh head like me.

  Allyuh does want to have debate issues so hypocritically it ain't funny.  You want to use a team's tactics as a basis for singling out one player as not being good.  YOU know all too well that Chelsea had TWO, no, make dat THREE good wingers in SWP and Arjen Robben (that divin' bitch!) and Joe Cole and showed no commitment to playing on the wings.  Now the team want to use the fullbacks as overlapping "wingers" and we doh have no established wingers in the squad.  Go figure.  Look how long it has been takin' Chelsea to establish an attacking partnership between Drogba and Anelka.  You think arsene9 or alex wasn't going to done forcefully apply all the necessary permutations of that combination (and Kalou) to whatever advantage the team can garner from it?  Gimme a break, giggsy.  As I said before, when MY team came out hot and sweaty out the starting blocks, JOM was getting accolades all around (even from some non-believers on this forum) as being one of the best players on the team.  Now, during the team's 8-game slide, I agree he hasn't played his best, but it hasn't been all his fault.  But you constantly singling him out (and I know why) and everybody else singling out Ramires....rather unfairly.  the man get two terrible passes yesterday in the heart of the defence and did the best he could with them and men talkin' shit.  Allyuh good oui!  I ask you to account for some of the other players on my team doing and all you using is flawed logic to digress.  Lampard was absolutely ineffective for the entire game yesterday as we all would agree.  Did Ancelotti take him off?  No.  So "substitutions" don't always have to do with any one player playin' more shit than anybody else like you infer.

Why am I singling him  out like you say?

You know why, giggsy.  I doh have to spell it out fuh yuh. 

Cause you are a chelski fan and that is yuh boi?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 28, 2010, 10:43:09 AM
Lots of games on TV today and tomorrow...

Home team listed first, all times EDT:


Tuesday December 28

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif)  Manchester City v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Villa- 10 am FSC/Fox Deportes

On now City up 4-0, Balotelli with the hat trick (pen 8', 27', pen 54') and Lescott with another (27')
Balotelli seems to be hitting his stride with 7 goals in the last 8 games.  The second penalty today was just ridiculous... he completely undressed Brad Friedel with a hesitation move.


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/76/92/0,,12306~8819318,00.gif)  Newcastle United v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/79/f3/0,,12306~3339129,00.gif)  Tottenham Hotspurs- 9:55 am FSP

On now Lennon has Spurs up 1-0 early in the second half


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/77/92/0,,12306~8819319,00.gif)  West Bromwich Albion v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/65/f3/0,,12306~3339109,00.gif)  Blackburn Rovers- 12:00 Noon FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7a/f3/0,,12306~3339130,00.gif)  West Ham v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6b/f3/0,,12306~3339115,00.gif)  Everton- 12:30 pm FSC/Fox Deportes

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/be/9f/0,,12306~6004670,00.gif)  Birmingham v. Manchester United- 2:55 pm ESPN2/ESPN3.com


Wednesday December 29

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif)  Chelsea v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/67/f3/0,,12306~3339111,00.gif)  Bolton Wanderers- 2:30 pm FSC/Fox Deportes

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7b/f3/0,,12306~3339131,00.gif)  Wigan v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif)  Arsenal- 2:40 pm FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c6/9f/0,,12306~6004678,00.gif)  Wolverhampton Wolves- 5:00 pm FSC/Fox Deportes
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 28, 2010, 10:48:53 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?

Since yuh wanna play yuh don't know, let meh remind yuh that JOM plays an attaking midfield for Nigeria since the U-17 World Cup in finland, 2003.   Chelsea has made it their business to use him as a defensive mid (and who knows what position manu was lookin' to use him as) and I don't give a shit what you want to try to reason as "what Chelsea does see in practice" because the whole world saw what he did in Holland in 2005, particulalrly what he did to them Argentinians in the final.  Yes, that was 5 years ago, but it was then and always has been the basis for my continued contention of WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.   Argentina was absolutely outplayed by Nigeria and JOM was the man pulling all the strings for Nigeria and I have the tape if you want to review/dispute it.  Maybe you can see for yourself "what Chelsea does see in practice" and scratch yuh head like me.

  Allyuh does want to have debate issues so hypocritically it ain't funny.  You want to use a team's tactics as a basis for singling out one player as not being good.  YOU know all too well that Chelsea had TWO, no, make dat THREE good wingers in SWP and Arjen Robben (that divin' bitch!) and Joe Cole and showed no commitment to playing on the wings.  Now the team want to use the fullbacks as overlapping "wingers" and we doh have no established wingers in the squad.  Go figure.  Look how long it has been takin' Chelsea to establish an attacking partnership between Drogba and Anelka.  You think arsene9 or alex wasn't going to done forcefully apply all the necessary permutations of that combination (and Kalou) to whatever advantage the team can garner from it?  Gimme a break, giggsy.  As I said before, when MY team came out hot and sweaty out the starting blocks, JOM was getting accolades all around (even from some non-believers on this forum) as being one of the best players on the team.  Now, during the team's 8-game slide, I agree he hasn't played his best, but it hasn't been all his fault.  But you constantly singling him out (and I know why) and everybody else singling out Ramires....rather unfairly.  the man get two terrible passes yesterday in the heart of the defence and did the best he could with them and men talkin' shit.  Allyuh good oui!  I ask you to account for some of the other players on my team doing and all you using is flawed logic to digress.  Lampard was absolutely ineffective for the entire game yesterday as we all would agree.  Did Ancelotti take him off?  No.  So "substitutions" don't always have to do with any one player playin' more shit than anybody else like you infer.

Why am I singling him  out like you say?

You know why, giggsy.  I doh have to spell it out fuh yuh. 

Cause you are a chelski fan and that is yuh boi?


OK. Yeah, dize your motive.  Arright.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 10:56:27 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?

Since yuh wanna play yuh don't know, let meh remind yuh that JOM plays an attaking midfield for Nigeria since the U-17 World Cup in finland, 2003.   Chelsea has made it their business to use him as a defensive mid (and who knows what position manu was lookin' to use him as) and I don't give a shit what you want to try to reason as "what Chelsea does see in practice" because the whole world saw what he did in Holland in 2005, particulalrly what he did to them Argentinians in the final.  Yes, that was 5 years ago, but it was then and always has been the basis for my continued contention of WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.   Argentina was absolutely outplayed by Nigeria and JOM was the man pulling all the strings for Nigeria and I have the tape if you want to review/dispute it.  Maybe you can see for yourself "what Chelsea does see in practice" and scratch yuh head like me.

  Allyuh does want to have debate issues so hypocritically it ain't funny.  You want to use a team's tactics as a basis for singling out one player as not being good.  YOU know all too well that Chelsea had TWO, no, make dat THREE good wingers in SWP and Arjen Robben (that divin' bitch!) and Joe Cole and showed no commitment to playing on the wings.  Now the team want to use the fullbacks as overlapping "wingers" and we doh have no established wingers in the squad.  Go figure.  Look how long it has been takin' Chelsea to establish an attacking partnership between Drogba and Anelka.  You think arsene9 or alex wasn't going to done forcefully apply all the necessary permutations of that combination (and Kalou) to whatever advantage the team can garner from it?  Gimme a break, giggsy.  As I said before, when MY team came out hot and sweaty out the starting blocks, JOM was getting accolades all around (even from some non-believers on this forum) as being one of the best players on the team.  Now, during the team's 8-game slide, I agree he hasn't played his best, but it hasn't been all his fault.  But you constantly singling him out (and I know why) and everybody else singling out Ramires....rather unfairly.  the man get two terrible passes yesterday in the heart of the defence and did the best he could with them and men talkin' shit.  Allyuh good oui!  I ask you to account for some of the other players on my team doing and all you using is flawed logic to digress.  Lampard was absolutely ineffective for the entire game yesterday as we all would agree.  Did Ancelotti take him off?  No.  So "substitutions" don't always have to do with any one player playin' more shit than anybody else like you infer.

Why am I singling him  out like you say?

You know why, giggsy.  I doh have to spell it out fuh yuh. 

Cause you are a chelski fan and that is yuh boi?


OK. Yeah, dize your motive.  Arright.

You funny yes!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 28, 2010, 12:15:25 PM
Silva was magic today for Man City, seems to be settling and showing good relationship with team mates.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 28, 2010, 03:11:23 PM
This Man U side playing a scintillating brand vs Birmingham.
It's a wonder the pitch could contain all this excitement.  :yawning:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on December 28, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
This Man U side playing a scintillating brand vs Birmingham.
It's a wonder the pitch could contain all this excitement.  :yawning:

GOAL! berba  :angel: ,wow sweet touch  :o
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 03:20:22 PM
This Man U side playing a scintillating brand vs Birmingham.
It's a wonder the pitch could contain all this excitement.  :yawning:

GOAL! berba  :angel: ,wow sweet touch  :o

Yep, yep!-It seems like Rooney has forgotten how to use his left foot! That guy has regressed big time!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 28, 2010, 03:27:50 PM
Just last year man on this site was calling Berba a shithound / shitsnake. Now he is getting an extended run, all his qualities blossoming. He showing touches, vision and world class finishing.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 03:31:11 PM
Just last year man on this site was calling Berba a shithound / shitsnake. Now he is getting an extended run, all his qualities blossoming. He showing touches, vision and world class finishing.

You must admit he was playin like a shithound! Not saying he didn't have the skills but he was playin like a shithound!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 03:33:35 PM
Steve McManaman is the worse! He givin that American commentator the homer from the world cup a run for his money!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on December 28, 2010, 03:49:13 PM
nice handball from Birmingham lol
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 28, 2010, 03:54:49 PM
offside and handball!
But we go take it!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 28, 2010, 04:01:23 PM
offside and handball!
But we go take it!

only way Birmingham could have stopped us

what a shit goal... to be fair it would have been tough to see the handball... I thought it was more offside .. but when I saw the replay it was more handball and less offside

f**k that would have been a massive 3 points.... still top of the league and playing well... missing Nani and Scholes.. hopefully they will be back soon... If we played like that in our previous away games we would have been running away with the title...desperately unlucky to draw today
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 28, 2010, 04:02:43 PM
Newcastle's keeper is one shitsnake!

 How so?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 28, 2010, 04:11:14 PM
Oh gosh ah reach.....that is some dutty dutty tackle boy whey sah. Like the ref yellow card was frozen in he back pocket.

Great equalizer by City, you could have seen it coming after Man United decided to defend the 1 goal. City really worked hard and deserved to take away a point.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 28, 2010, 04:14:22 PM
nice handball from Birmingham lol

Ball to hand... good non-call.  And no Bitter... look at when Bowyer started his run, didn't look off-side to me, the protest was over the 'handball'.

ManU fans have no business complaining b/c as per usual, every 50-50 call was given in their favor but this one (which the ref probably didn't see clear enough to call, if the linesman didn't call that, he couldn't call it either).  I love Giggs but that is a straight up yellow card, two-footed, studs up tackle he put on that Brum player.  Not to mention the foul by Fletcher right before that on the pass leading up to that challenge.  

Then there was Ferdinand studs up header, in which Jerome somehow ended up getting pegged on his shin.  No call was given.  Mind you Ferdiand did THE SAME EXACT THING against Arsenal last week... and studded Sagna across his stomach.  Sagna even ended up with his shirt in tatters, prompting Ferdinand to offer an apology to him (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/853566?cc=5901) afterwards.  Ref di'n see nutten wrong with that.  But let one call go against allyuh and allyuh crying more than anybody.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 28, 2010, 04:16:58 PM
nice handball from Birmingham lol

Ball to hand... good non-call.  

I stopped after that LOL

you real good yes...

3 things went down..Phillips pushed Rio.. Zigic rose above and handled it to Bowyer who was in a possible Offside position....  that's no ball to hand..especially when it led to a goal

50/50..yea..normal... ::)

If United scored a goal like that we wouldnt hear the end of it

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 28, 2010, 04:22:31 PM
nice handball from Birmingham lol

Ball to hand... good non-call.  

I stopped after that LOL

you real good yes...

3 things went down..Phillips pushed Rio.. Zigic rose above and handled it to Bowyer who was in a possible Offside position....  that's no ball to hand..especially when it led to a goal

50/50..yea..normal... ::)

If United scored a goal like that we wouldnt hear the end of it



How Zigic could "handle" the ball when his hand never left his side?  Take yuh blinders off son... and yeah, doh bother read the rest, it too damning to yuh persecution cause.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 28, 2010, 05:37:09 PM
nice handball from Birmingham lol

Ball to hand... good non-call.  And no Bitter... look at when Bowyer started his run, didn't look off-side to me, the protest was over the 'handball'.

ManU fans have no business complaining b/c as per usual, every 50-50 call was given in their favor but this one (which the ref probably didn't see clear enough to call, if the linesman didn't call that, he couldn't call it either).  I love Giggs but that is a straight up yellow card, two-footed, studs up tackle he put on that Brum player.  Not to mention the foul by Fletcher right before that on the pass leading up to that challenge.  

Then there was Ferdinand studs up header, in which Jerome somehow ended up getting pegged on his shin.  No call was given.  Mind you Ferdiand did THE SAME EXACT THING against Arsenal last week... and studded Sagna across his stomach.  Sagna even ended up with his shirt in tatters, prompting Ferdinand to offer an apology to him (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/853566?cc=5901) afterwards.  Ref di'n see nutten wrong with that.  But let one call go against allyuh and allyuh crying more than anybody.

Thought was only me had an issue with that.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: fari on December 29, 2010, 09:46:44 AM
dzeko about to go man city

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/858651?cc=5901


thais real firepower they have now....but go be hard to keep all them big name strikers happy.   
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 02:12:57 PM
Ivanovic should have Elmander do a paternity test.


EDIT:

I having less and less respect for Essien... not only is he reckless with the majority of his challenges, but now the desperation starting to show as he's resorting to gamesmanship to try and win fouls and get man booked.  Poor.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 29, 2010, 02:16:41 PM
You see what Ivanovic get a card for? Then look at the tackles Bolton getting away with, especially Davies.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 29, 2010, 02:17:52 PM
That is blatant cheating by the ref, give Chelsea players cards and talk to Bolton's.   :bs:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 02:18:48 PM
That is blatant cheating by the ref, give Chelsea players cards and talk to Bolton's.   :bs:

What he was supposed to give a card for... that dive by Essien?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2010, 02:26:11 PM
Arshavin playing crap whole game and then turn up to score.
Maybe the goal will snap him out of his funk.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 02:37:33 PM
Arshavin playing crap whole game and then turn up to score.
Maybe the goal will snap him out of his funk.

Ah doh have FSP so ah missing dat game... keep we posted, either here or in de Arsenal thread.


Very evenly matched game between Bolton and Chelsea.  Seeing Bolton for the first time in a year, I'm really impressed.  I remember how they were struggle to stave off relegation under Gary Megson... now Coyle have them challenge for top 4.  Paul Robinson playing very well across the the entire Bolton backline.  I could see why he keeping Jlloyd on the bench.  Elmander and Davies winning everything in the air up front, Ivanovic getting take fuh he lunch on every header.

Meanwhile in the Chelsea middle, Essien, Ramires and Malouda cyah make ah note.  Ramires playing better though, but still nervous.  Rodrigo had a nice battle going with Cole early... but like he fade close to de half.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2010, 02:53:36 PM
Arshavin playing crap whole game and then turn up to score.
Maybe the goal will snap him out of his funk.

Ah doh have FSP so ah missing dat game... keep we posted, either here or in de Arsenal thread.

If yuh could watch tv and post, yuh could watch both games same time. If yuh at work, tell them watching football on dec 29th is part of your cultural tradition and you don't want to compromise yuh beliefs.  ;D

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=99749&part=sports

In any case, Wigan score first on a suspect penalty. I surprised the Arsenal defense eh complain more, but I doubt N'zogbia even feel a breeze when he went down from Koscielny "challenge". Ref call it though, watson score.

Whole time Arsenal looking like they ent really taking it seriously, and Arshavin already have he name on the 1/2 time substitute list. But Bendtner get a 1/2 chance, Arshavin clean up the rebound with a nice volley and Arsenal flip the switch. Wigan cyah touch the ball, is only a matter of time, Ashavin to Bendtner a bit of luck and a nice finish: 2-1.

Diably had to go off and Wilshire come on, which might have made a difference in the passing. Wenger make 8 changes from the chelsea squad though.

Out:
Djourou
Clichy
Song
Wilshere
Fábregas
Nasri
Walcott
Van Persie

In:
Squillaci
Eboué
Diaby
Denilson
Arshavin
Bendtner
Chamakh
Rosicky



Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tallman on December 29, 2010, 02:53:57 PM
Arshavin playing crap whole game and then turn up to score.
Maybe the goal will snap him out of his funk.

Ah doh have FSP so ah missing dat game... keep we posted, either here or in de Arsenal thread.


Very evenly matched game between Bolton and Chelsea.  Seeing Bolton for the first time in a year, I'm really impressed.  I remember how they were struggle to stave off relegation under Gary Megson... now Coyle have them challenge for top 4.  Paul Robinson playing very well across the the entire Bolton backline.  I could see why he keeping Jlloyd on the bench.  Elmander and Davies winning everything in the air up front, Ivanovic getting take fuh he lunch on every header.

Meanwhile in the Chelsea middle, Essien, Ramires and Malouda cyah make ah note.  Ramires playing better though, but still nervous.  Rodrigo had a nice battle going with Cole early... but like he fade close to de half.

Jlloyd not on de bench. He been injured practically all season.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: theworm2345 on December 29, 2010, 02:59:46 PM
Arshavin playing crap whole game and then turn up to score.
Maybe the goal will snap him out of his funk.

Ah doh have FSP so ah missing dat game... keep we posted, either here or in de Arsenal thread.


Very evenly matched game between Bolton and Chelsea.  Seeing Bolton for the first time in a year, I'm really impressed.  I remember how they were struggle to stave off relegation under Gary Megson... now Coyle have them challenge for top 4.  Paul Robinson playing very well across the the entire Bolton backline.  I could see why he keeping Jlloyd on the bench.  Elmander and Davies winning everything in the air up front, Ivanovic getting take fuh he lunch on every header.

Meanwhile in the Chelsea middle, Essien, Ramires and Malouda cyah make ah note.  Ramires playing better though, but still nervous.  Rodrigo had a nice battle going with Cole early... but like he fade close to de half.

Jlloyd not on de bench. He been injured practically all season.
Bolton were only able to name 6 subs (out of 7 allowed) today, if Jlloyd was fit I'm sure he'd at least make the bench.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 29, 2010, 03:04:39 PM
Bakes what yuh say about the tackle on Essien just before he play the ball? That's a yellow after the play dead. Two footed lunge. If Essien had done that or Mikel or D'Jong that's a straight red.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 03:05:43 PM
Bitter... thanks for the link and update... Tallman, thanks for the update, really meant that he was keeping Jlloyd out of the starting lineup, which was the case since Coyle took over, but ah di'n know that Jlloyd was injured.  Worm, I did hear earlier in the broadcast that there were only 7 on the bench... crazy.


Meanwhile, Chelsea came out the second half with a vengeance... and it's paid off.  Drogba to Malouda, 1-0 Chelsea in teh 60'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 03:06:50 PM
Bakes what yuh say about the tackle on Essien just before he play the ball? That's a yellow after the play dead. Two footed lunge. If Essien had done that or Mikel or D'Jong that's a straight red.

Can't remember that one to be honest, I probably missed it.  I thought ref did a good job maintaining control of the game though.  Admittedly he giving Taylor a long leash.


-------------------------

Chelsea get away with a penalty... clear handball by Terry.  It was really ball-to-hand, but the hand was away from the body enough to merit the call imo.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2010, 03:23:37 PM
Stupid red card for N'zogbia. The ONLY player giving Arsenal problems.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2010, 03:25:49 PM
10-man Wigan equalize
Nice own-goal by Squillaci
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 29, 2010, 03:46:52 PM
Arsenal are a joke..cant beat a 10 man Wigan
Chelsea are a shit side ... what a joke .. offside goal and Bolton penalty dismissed

but yet United gets all the calls  ::)...when they had 3 things went down in Birmingham's equaliser yesterday..a foul, handball and offside.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 03:49:55 PM
Arsenal are a joke..cant beat a 10 man Wigan
Chelsea are a shit side ... what a joke .. offside goal and Bolton penalty dismissed

but yet United gets all the calls  ::)...when they had 3 things went down in Birmingham's equaliser yesterday..a foul, handball and offside.

Dred you still bitching over that supposed "handball"??  Again I ask you... how can it be handball if the arm was at his side?  Secondly it wasn't a foul on Ferdinand, at least not by EPL standards, Ferdinand just got beat to the jump and by then couldn't get off his feet. 

The final grumble about offside is really too silly to even merit discussion.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2010, 03:51:59 PM
Arsenal had a bogus penalty against as well as a no-penalty call for the same handball in the wall that got Hotspurs a penalty against them. They didn't get 6 minutes of extra time though... So it does go.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 29, 2010, 03:57:20 PM
Arsenal are a joke..cant beat a 10 man Wigan
Chelsea are a shit side ... what a joke .. offside goal and Bolton penalty dismissed

but yet United gets all the calls  ::)...when they had 3 things went down in Birmingham's equaliser yesterday..a foul, handball and offside.

Dred you still bitching over that supposed "handball"??  Again I ask you... how can it be handball if the arm was at his side?  Secondly it wasn't a foul on Ferdinand, at least not by EPL standards, Ferdinand just got beat to the jump and by then couldn't get off his feet. 

The final grumble about offside is really too silly to even merit discussion.

that was a handball my boy... it resulted in a goal...

anyway I would have taken a draw at Brum before the game because how hard it is to win there but the way the goal went down made it feel like a loss..and we dominated play created the best chances hit the post twice..so i am still pissed

BTW....Wolves at home dog? WOLVES AT HOME DOG???

1-0 FT.. Roy has got to go ..surely that is the final straw
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 04:07:09 PM
BTW....Wolves at home dog? WOLVES AT HOME DOG???

1-0 FT.. Roy has got to go ..surely that is the final straw

Yeah... thanks for spoiling the game for me, I just sat down to watch it on delay.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 29, 2010, 04:15:39 PM
BTW....Wolves at home dog? WOLVES AT HOME DOG???

1-0 FT.. Roy has got to go ..surely that is the final straw

Yeah... thanks for spoiling the game for me, I just sat down to watch it on delay.

Roy looks like he in too deep.  Has not won over the Anfield faithful, tactics are highly questionable, players seem uninspired, and they keep chanting "Bring back Rafa".  NESV, please pull the plug on Roy before January.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 04:30:13 PM
Roy looks like he in too deep.  Has not won over the Anfield faithful, tactics are highly questionable, players seem uninspired, and they keep chanting "Bring back Rafa".  NESV, please pull the plug on Roy before January.

Yeah I turn off the TV.. nutten to watch if we lost 1-0.  I've seen this movie before. 

I've tried to be generous in giving him time but it's not happening.  I don't want Rafa back, frankly... he did nothing his last couple of years.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 29, 2010, 04:37:52 PM
BTW....Wolves at home dog? WOLVES AT HOME DOG???

1-0 FT.. Roy has got to go ..surely that is the final straw

Yeah... thanks for spoiling the game for me, I just sat down to watch it on delay.

this is an open EPL thread with spoilers all around the place

you should have stated something saying please dont post spoilers(to everyone) or stay off the thread... I have not one ounce of sympathy.. when I watch delayed games is cell off no internet... take a lesson

I think I actually helped you by spoiling the score
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: just cool on December 29, 2010, 06:29:04 PM
BTW....Wolves at home dog? WOLVES AT HOME DOG???

1-0 FT.. Roy has got to go ..surely that is the final straw

Yeah... thanks for spoiling the game for me, I just sat down to watch it on delay.

this is an open EPL thread with spoilers all around the place

you should have stated something saying please dont post spoilers(to everyone) or stay off the thread... I have not one ounce of sympathy.. when I watch delayed games is cell off no internet... take a lesson

I think I actually helped you by spoiling the score
You are cold!  :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 29, 2010, 06:32:10 PM
BTW....Wolves at home dog? WOLVES AT HOME DOG???

1-0 FT.. Roy has got to go ..surely that is the final straw

Yeah... thanks for spoiling the game for me, I just sat down to watch it on delay.

this is an open EPL thread with spoilers all around the place

you should have stated something saying please dont post spoilers(to everyone) or stay off the thread... I have not one ounce of sympathy.. when I watch delayed games is cell off no internet... take a lesson

I think I actually helped you by spoiling the score

Damn spoiler! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 06:56:08 PM
this is an open EPL thread with spoilers all around the place

you should have stated something saying please dont post spoilers(to everyone) or stay off the thread... I have not one ounce of sympathy.. when I watch delayed games is cell off no internet... take a lesson

I think I actually helped you by spoiling the score

You on yuh f**king period or what small man?  Some of us have lives beyond football, it really not that serious.  How about you try and take yuh head out Fergie's ass for a second and make something productive of yuhself.  Living the life of a full-time fanboy doesn't count.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 29, 2010, 07:12:56 PM
Arsenal are a joke..cant beat a 10 man Wigan
Chelsea are a shit side ... what a joke .. offside goal and Bolton penalty dismissed

but yet United gets all the calls  ::)...when they had 3 things went down in Birmingham's equaliser yesterday..a foul, handball and offside.

Dred you still bitching over that supposed "handball"??  Again I ask you... how can it be handball if the arm was at his side?  Secondly it wasn't a foul on Ferdinand, at least not by EPL standards, Ferdinand just got beat to the jump and by then couldn't get off his feet. 

The final grumble about offside is really too silly to even merit discussion.

The guy's arms were in front of him and he redirected the ball the same way a volleyballer cushions the ball on the forearms to set it up. And he admitted to the United players after that handes the ball.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 08:39:34 PM
The guy's arms were in front of him and he redirected the ball the same way a volleyballer cushions the ball on the forearms to set it up. And he admitted to the United players after that handes the ball.

I'm sure he did... and you heard that from he himself, right?  You have a direct quote where he says that himself, right?


Doh worry... ah not holding mih breath.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dotless007 on December 30, 2010, 04:48:00 PM
men sour
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 30, 2010, 07:58:31 PM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dotless007 on December 31, 2010, 12:43:28 AM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.

talk to blatter
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on December 31, 2010, 05:54:00 AM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.
       I've been observing for sometime now Referees can't keep up with the pace of the game,i can't understand why they don't get younger guys to Ref,if you notice they are never in position to see anything,players run into them,they get in the way of the ball etc how conditioned can these guys get at their ages. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kev on December 31, 2010, 07:45:41 AM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.
       I've been observing for sometime now Referees can't keep up with the pace of the game,i can't understand why they don't get younger guys to Ref,if you notice they are never in position to see anything,players run into them,they get in the way of the ball etc how conditioned can these guys get at their ages. 

Tried that with the likes of Atwell, simply not good enough, too inexperienced and in awe.

Don't know why anybody is surprised by ref decisions it has always been the case that certain teams / players get a lot less punishment for the same (an in some cases worse) offences than the rest. Manu, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool & Spurs are the usual beneficiaries, will very quickly be joined by Man City if not already.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 31, 2010, 08:04:36 AM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.
       I've been observing for sometime now Referees can't keep up with the pace of the game,i can't understand why they don't get younger guys to Ref,if you notice they are never in position to see anything,players run into them,they get in the way of the ball etc how conditioned can these guys get at their ages. 


At the Interational level Refs have to retire at 44, so that has been addressed. But I agree the game has become too quick. Maybe they should give more responsibility to the assistant referees.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on December 31, 2010, 08:41:20 AM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.
       I've been observing for sometime now Referees can't keep up with the pace of the game,i can't understand why they don't get younger guys to Ref,if you notice they are never in position to see anything,players run into them,they get in the way of the ball etc how conditioned can these guys get at their ages. 


At the Interational level Refs have to retire at 44, so that has been addressed. But I agree the game has become too quick. Maybe they should give more responsibility to the assistant referees.
      What are your thoughts on a two Ref system?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Touches on December 31, 2010, 08:49:56 AM
Man Utd boss Sir Alex Ferguson rules out January buys
Sir Alex Ferguson
Ferguson's side are top of the Premier League on goal difference

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson says he will not buy any new players in the January transfer window.

When asked about possible purchases the 69-year-old Scot stated there would "definitely not" be any new arrivals.

But Ferguson hopes to loan out Federico Macheda for the rest of the season to increase the striker's experience.

The 19-year-old Italian, who has made seven appearances in the Premier League this season, has been linked with former club Lazio, Roma and Bolton.

Ferguson confirmed that Macheda's fellow forwards, Danny Welbeck and Mame Biram Diouf, will remain on loan at Sunderland and Blackburn respectively.

Welbeck has enjoyed success on Wearside and Ferguson is hopeful Macheda could have a similarly productive time away from Old Trafford.
   
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Don't see us having any real money to chase the big players.

diamondcementhead

England Under-21 international Welbeck has made 18 league appearances for Sunderland, scoring five goals, despite being in competition with expensive recruits Darren Bent and Asamoah Gyan for a place in the Black Cats' strike force.

"I had a chat with Federico and explained the Welbeck situation," said Ferguson.

"It can pan out exactly the same for him. It would be the same thing, going to a club, getting that experience for six months and coming back to us a better player."

Macheda made an immediate impact on his Red Devils debut with a superb injury-time winner against Aston Villa in April 2009 and a four-year deal followed in December to extend his stay at Old Trafford until June 2014.

However, the success of summer signing Javier Hernandez and the return to fitness of Michael Owen look set to limit Macheda's chances up front for Manchester United.

Ferguson has concentrated his spending on the summer break in recent years and did not sign any players in January 2010.

He did sign two players in the January window the year before but Serbian winger Zoran Tosic left for CSKA Moscow in June after five first-team appearances while Belgian defender Richie de Laet only returned from a loan spell with Preston on Thursday.

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De Laet and forward Joshua King's loans at Deepdale were due to expire after the match against Crystal Palace on 3 January, but they have returned to Old Trafford early in the wake of Ferguson's son, Darren, being sacked as Preston manager.

United agreed a deal for Danish goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard with Aalesund in November and the 26-year-old will be available for selection from January.

Ferguson conceded that he may have to reinforce his squad by recalling midfielder Tom Cleverley from his loan spell with Wigan.

Cleverley has been away from Old Trafford for almost two years, impressing on loan spells at Leicester and Watford before taking up the option of a temporary spell at the DW Stadium.

"Tom has done excellently as well but the agreement with him was always that we would review it in January," said Ferguson.

"I have a fantastic relationship with Wigan so I have not discussed it any further than that.

"The only problem is that we have lost Park Ji-sung to the Asia Cup for the whole of January and I don't have Antonio Valencia back until the end of February, so we are a bit light in that respect in terms of wide positions."

Ferguson expects Paul Scholes to return to training next week in a further boost to his midfield options.

The 35-year-old has not played since injuring his groin in the Champions League win over Rangers on 24 November.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 31, 2010, 09:31:31 AM
Cleverley will return... Kiko will go out on loan

With Scholes, Nani and Owen coming back to fitness the squad will be strong in January... also Park(Jan 31st) and Valencia(mid feb) will be back soon enough too

I would love to see us bring Becks back on a Henrik Larsson type deal..3 months with the option of 6... Role Model, Shirt Sales, Proper exit from the club, United Legend...and he could still f**king play... ENTER THE BECKS  :D.... I know it wont happen but I think that can be a master stroke
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 31, 2010, 10:40:07 AM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.
       I've been observing for sometime now Referees can't keep up with the pace of the game,i can't understand why they don't get younger guys to Ref,if you notice they are never in position to see anything,players run into them,they get in the way of the ball etc how conditioned can these guys get at their ages. 


At the Interational level Refs have to retire at 44, so that has been addressed. But I agree the game has become too quick. Maybe they should give more responsibility to the assistant referees.
      What are your thoughts on a two Ref system?

I would like to see it  at least attempted> Each responsible for one half of the field. Assisted by the assistant referees
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on January 01, 2011, 07:20:49 AM
Is how many different ways they go find to tief for ManU?
Clear penalty and red card against Neville, ref ent even stop to think about it. Steups!
 :bs:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on January 01, 2011, 08:07:22 AM
WBA finally get a penalty and f*** it up royally!
Game loss right there.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 01, 2011, 08:19:14 AM
WBA finally get a penalty and f*** it up royally!
Game loss right there.

:heehee: hernandez score
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on January 01, 2011, 08:24:47 AM
WBA finally get a penalty and f*** it up royally!
Game loss right there.

Shocking! ???
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 01, 2011, 08:40:11 AM
we grind out a win there , whew !
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 01, 2011, 08:45:43 AM
Hallmark of Champions

and before everyone talks about WBA penalty claim I hope they bring up the clear handball before Chicharito scored

WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT


Massive 3 points... expecting Arsenal to f**k up at Birmingham
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on January 01, 2011, 09:26:12 AM
Hallmark of Champions

and before everyone talks about WBA penalty claim I hope they bring up the clear handball before Chicharito scored

WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT


Massive 3 points... expecting Arsenal to f**k up at Birmingham

One is directly related to the other. If he had the balls to make the first call (plus the sending off), he would not have had to make the "make up call."
That being said WesB only have themself to blame
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on January 01, 2011, 10:30:03 AM
Hallmark of Champions

and before everyone talks about WBA penalty claim I hope they bring up the clear handball before Chicharito scored

WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT


Massive 3 points... expecting Arsenal to f**k up at Birmingham

One is directly related to the other. If he had the balls to make the first call (plus the sending off), he would not have had to make the "make up call."
That being said WesB only have themself to blame

We done know Small Mag doh care how. As long as they win.
That said, WBA have theyself to blame.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 01, 2011, 10:34:10 AM
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Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on January 01, 2011, 01:42:16 PM
HE'S BACK, HE'S BACK
HE FLEW OVER THE MOON AND AROUND THE WORLD
HE'S BACK, HE'S BACK
THE BEST STORY TO BE TOLD
HE'S BACK, HE'S BACK
THE GREATEST GOAL SCORER IN THE WORLD
ROONEY, ROONEY
THE BOY OF OLD

 :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 08:35:09 AM
Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 08:42:51 AM
Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 09:01:14 AM
Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on January 02, 2011, 09:19:13 AM
HE'S BACK, HE'S BACK
HE FLEW OVER THE MOON AND AROUND THE WORLD
HE'S BACK, HE'S BACK
THE BEST STORY TO BE TOLD
HE'S BACK, HE'S BACK
THE GREATEST GOAL SCORER IN THE WORLD
ROONEY, ROONEY
THE BOY OF OLD

 :devil:

You have a chant for John Terry?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on January 02, 2011, 09:21:39 AM
WDMC!!!

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 09:27:18 AM
WDMC!!!



The look on the Chelski players faces was priceless!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 02, 2011, 09:30:17 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 02, 2011, 09:30:39 AM
 :devil: epic game. 2 points dropped for chelsea. Villa buss alyuh bubble HA!  :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 09:34:02 AM
Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 09:35:42 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 02, 2011, 09:37:09 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 09:39:24 AM

Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 09:40:58 AM
Jose must be laughing his arse off, especially when Terry led the posse to hug the manager to show support!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 09:52:28 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit

You are the oooooooooooooonly person, amongst ANYBODY watchin' the game that call that ball coming off his shoulder to be a hand ball.


Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.

I never see none of my players jump in mid fackin air and drop-kick nobody on they chest, (jonny evans on Drogba), they belly (ferdinand on Sagna, then on somebody ELSE the following week) or perform the kinda pugilistic surgery on people like vidic does, week in, week out.  But yuh know what.....allyuh manager doh show it, so askin' the ress ah allyuh to show some honesty and class is askin' a lot much.  
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 10:08:37 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit

You are the oooooooooooooonly person, amongst ANYBODY watchin' the game that call that ball coming off his shoulder to be a hand ball.


Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.

I never see none of my players jump in mid fackin air and drop-kick nobody on they chest, (jonny evans on Drogba), they belly (ferdinand on Sagna, then on somebody ELSE the following week) or perform the kinda pugilistic surgery on people like vidic does, week in, week out.  But yuh know what.....allyuh manager doh show it, so askin' the ress ah allyuh to show some honesty and class is askin' a lot much.  

That is rich coming from a person who supports Chelski and also has a team with a thug like Terry in it who has committe worse and similar fouls. But take win cause I know yuh hurtin and you drinking extra helpings of Haterade!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 02, 2011, 10:22:17 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit

You are the oooooooooooooonly person, amongst ANYBODY watchin' the game that call that ball coming off his shoulder to be a hand ball.


Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.

I never see none of my players jump in mid fackin air and drop-kick nobody on they chest, (jonny evans on Drogba), they belly (ferdinand on Sagna, then on somebody ELSE the following week) or perform the kinda pugilistic surgery on people like vidic does, week in, week out.  But yuh know what.....allyuh manager doh show it, so askin' the ress ah allyuh to show some honesty and class is askin' a lot much.  


I said below his shoulder idiot... which is a handball... I know Chelsea fans are retarded but read properly
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 10:40:31 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit

You are the oooooooooooooonly person, amongst ANYBODY watchin' the game that call that ball coming off his shoulder to be a hand ball.


Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.

I never see none of my players jump in mid fackin air and drop-kick nobody on they chest, (jonny evans on Drogba), they belly (ferdinand on Sagna, then on somebody ELSE the following week) or perform the kinda pugilistic surgery on people like vidic does, week in, week out.  But yuh know what.....allyuh manager doh show it, so askin' the ress ah allyuh to show some honesty and class is askin' a lot much.  

That is rich coming from a person who supports Chelski and also has a team with a thug like Terry in it who has committe worse and similar fouls. But take win cause I know yuh hurtin and you drinking extra helpings of Haterade!


  Listen, the closest I ever see a Chelsea player come to committing the kinda tackle I described was when Bosingwa shove a man wit he foot by de corner flag a couple seasons ago..  NO Chelsea fan I know, condoned that shit!   The thing is, Terry is not as much a "thug" as some of y'all try to make him out....his style of play is very typical of the English style of football that uses physicality to compensate for the lack of flair that you see in other leagues and it is par for the course in English football.  manu does it, liverpool does it.  All the teams do it in all the english leagues.  But when players and teams go a little (if not a lot) above and beyond the "typical" like the kinds of tactics I described in the previous posts.....that does kill me.  IMO, Ballack was a much bigger thug than Terry and I always called him out on it.  manu players does get away wit murder ALL DE TIME and allyuh does just plead the fith.  Please, please, please....be a little more honest and a little less biased when allyuh drop allyuh comments nuh.  It goes a long way in being viewd as more than just your "typical" irrational manu fan.   :beermug:  
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 02, 2011, 10:46:18 AM

  Listen, the closest I ever see a Chelsea player come to committing the kinda tackle I described was when Bosingwa shove a man wit he foot by de corner flag a couple seasons ago..  NO Chelsea fan I know, condoned that shit!  

hmmmmn... dat musse why dinho have it in he signature, because he eh cononing de foul (that wasn't called) on Benayoun. 

Also, me eh getting in allyuh li'l lovers' spat, but Terry is a very good defender, prone to getting frustrated and making some very cynical tackles.  He gets away with it b/c he's "England's captain" and all that nonesense.  It is ridiculous to say that what he does is par for the course in English football.  That said, on balance ManU fans have no business talking about cynical (or even reckless) tackles, not while Fletcher and Scholes still running out fuh dem.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 10:51:55 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit

You are the oooooooooooooonly person, amongst ANYBODY watchin' the game that call that ball coming off his shoulder to be a hand ball.


Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.

I never see none of my players jump in mid fackin air and drop-kick nobody on they chest, (jonny evans on Drogba), they belly (ferdinand on Sagna, then on somebody ELSE the following week) or perform the kinda pugilistic surgery on people like vidic does, week in, week out.  But yuh know what.....allyuh manager doh show it, so askin' the ress ah allyuh to show some honesty and class is askin' a lot much.  


I said below his shoulder idiot... which is a handball... I know Chelsea fans are retarded but read properly


  I know what you said, little c**t.  You can't help but to be dogmatic.   I am telling you that YOU are the only one who seemed to  have "seen" it to be below the shoulder and not at his shoulder as it seems that most reasonable people are waiting to see a more definitive view before making a false claim.  Neither of the commentators mad a mention about it coming off his "bicep"and they have the advantage of their own monitor and a production crew to assist in bringing that to the fore.   Maybe I should resort to comic book art  instead of  making inferences just for you.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Arazi on January 02, 2011, 10:52:39 AM
Chow i dunno why you even bothering to argue with them Man U men, you better off watching Fox News to get objectivity than from them...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 02, 2011, 10:58:52 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit

You are the oooooooooooooonly person, amongst ANYBODY watchin' the game that call that ball coming off his shoulder to be a hand ball.


Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.

I never see none of my players jump in mid fackin air and drop-kick nobody on they chest, (jonny evans on Drogba), they belly (ferdinand on Sagna, then on somebody ELSE the following week) or perform the kinda pugilistic surgery on people like vidic does, week in, week out.  But yuh know what.....allyuh manager doh show it, so askin' the ress ah allyuh to show some honesty and class is askin' a lot much.  


I said below his shoulder idiot... which is a handball... I know Chelsea fans are retarded but read properly


  I know what you said, little c**t.  You can't help but to be dogmatic.   I am telling you that YOU are the only one who seemed to  have "seen" it to be below the shoulder and not at his shoulder as it seems that most reasonable people are waiting to see a more definitive view before making a false claim.  Neither of the commentators mad a mention about it coming off his "bicep"and they have the advantage of their own monitor and a production crew to assist in bringing that to the fore.   Maybe I should resort to comic book art  instead of  making inferences just for you.

really?  Because I didnt know the commentator's opinion is law... and I've seen alot of complaints about it being a possible handball on many forums by all fans, not just United fans..

Cracking up are we?  I'm Fergie..your Rafa

FACT..Chelsea 3-3.. FACT..5TH... FACT..SHIT SIDEEEEE

 :rotfl:

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 11:15:08 AM

  Listen, the closest I ever see a Chelsea player come to committing the kinda tackle I described was when Bosingwa shove a man wit he foot by de corner flag a couple seasons ago..  NO Chelsea fan I know, condoned that shit!  

hmmmmn... dat musse why dinho have it in he signature, because he eh cononing de foul (that wasn't called) on Benayoun. 

Also, me eh getting in allyuh li'l lovers' spat, but Terry is a very good defender, prone to getting frustrated and making some very cynical tackles.  He gets away with it b/c he's "England's captain" and all that nonesense.  It is ridiculous to say that what he does is par for the course in English football.  That said, on balance ManU fans have no business talking about cynical (or even reckless) tackles, not while Fletcher and Scholes still running out fuh dem.


   You would have to ask dinho why he had it but obviously my point is that, had the damned foul been called, no Chelsea fan was going to be defending Bosingwa or defering from what he did.   
 Secondly, there is a whole lot of physicality that goes on in the English game that players get away with and John Terry is one of them.  To deny that is where the actual rediculousness comes in.  What you calling to be cynical wit your 2 cents is what is above and beyond the typical play of English football.   The FA is slowly trying to stamp out some of the lunging tackles, stud-showing challenges and overall brutish style of play that has been typical to the English game for many years.  .  But, even with some of the so-called "shoulder to shoulder" challenges that I see get a pass, then you can't be serious.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 11:40:10 AM
Chow i dunno why you even bothering to argue with them Man U men, you better off watching Fox News to get objectivity than from them...

Ah know, right?  Ah quicker get blood out a stone in trute!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on January 02, 2011, 12:54:41 PM
I will say again 7 yellow card Aston Villa get and not one sending off. That alone will tell you something. Say what is We (Chelsea) fault for being in such a position.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on January 02, 2011, 07:50:25 PM
 :rotfl:

i done see next couple of years man city gone get a lot of defecting chelsea fans. :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 03, 2011, 08:20:07 AM
:rotfl:

i done see next couple of years man city gone get a lot of defecting chelsea fans. :devil:

Yep, yep-that is how the ABUs work!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: mukumsplau on January 03, 2011, 09:32:22 AM
manchester city is upsetting me.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 03, 2011, 02:02:46 PM
manchester city is upsetting me.

Blackpool is the definition of 'spirited'... the 2010 version of 2008's Hull, at least the first half of the season Hull. They play even more positive football than some of the more established clubs like Wigan and Blackburn, and the results underscore that.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 04, 2011, 04:19:13 PM
9 points clear of Chelsea, 5 points clear of Arsenal and 3 clear of City with a game in hand...boom bang  :D

Hoping for a shock Wolves result vs the rent boys tomorrow and a draw at the Emirates between the Pedo and his little boys vs the noisy trophyless neighbours
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on January 05, 2011, 07:15:50 AM
Dzeko to Man City! Dam! I think this is one of the best buys. He is a complete striker. Now let's see how he settles.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: mukumsplau on January 05, 2011, 07:20:57 AM
Dzeko to Man City! Dam! I think this is one of the best buys. He is a complete striker. Now let's see how he settles.

this rel sour me. rel sour me. only because of the politics in italian football we didnt get him...dzeko is an absolute beast..
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 05, 2011, 07:26:23 AM
Great game today, City vs gunners , DANCE PUPPETS DANCE !  :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 05, 2011, 11:10:09 AM
Dzeko to Man City! Dam! I think this is one of the best buys. He is a complete striker. Now let's see how he settles.

this hurting me real bad.. I'm a massive fan of his.... He will be an absolute nightmare.. he has everything to be great in the prem.... City's best buy and he hasnt touched a ball
Title: January 2011 Football Transfers
Post by: Andre on January 05, 2011, 11:12:48 AM
the big ones so far

- julio baptista and demechelis to malaga
- Simao Sabrosa, Hugo Almedia and Manuel Fernandes to Besiktas
- leonardo as inter milan manager
- aron winter as toronto fc manager

in the works

- ronaldinho to gremio, palmeiras, flamengo or blackburn
- dzeko to man city on $300K as week

rumour

- luca toni to LA Galaxy

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: mukumsplau on January 05, 2011, 12:36:21 PM
Dzeko to Man City! Dam! I think this is one of the best buys. He is a complete striker. Now let's see how he settles.

this hurting me real bad.. I'm a massive fan of his.... He will be an absolute nightmare.. he has everything to be great in the prem.... City's best buy and he hasnt touched a ball

hurting you...imagine what it doin me...dzeko was suppposed to be the flagship of juve renaissance...sigh..lawd..
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 05, 2011, 02:13:51 PM
City getting shagged, lucky it still nil nil
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 05, 2011, 02:25:15 PM
wolves leading chelsea  :heehee:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 05, 2011, 02:31:37 PM
wolves leading chelsea  :heehee:

Any links?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 05, 2011, 02:41:56 PM
Chelsea losing, Scousers losing and City,Arsenal drawing

PERFECT SO FAR
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 05, 2011, 02:43:18 PM
wolves leading chelsea  :heehee:

Any links?

http://atdhe.net/31970/watch-wolverhampton-vs-chelsea

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=100196&part=sports
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 05, 2011, 02:44:28 PM
wolves leading chelsea  :heehee:

Any links?

http://atdhe.net/31970/watch-wolverhampton-vs-chelsea

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=100196&part=sports


Thanks  :beermug:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Cantona007 on January 05, 2011, 02:53:38 PM
wolves leading chelsea  :heehee:

Liverpool...  :devil:

City look useless...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on January 05, 2011, 03:24:39 PM
anybody knows if it does have church on wednesday evenings? 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Andre on January 05, 2011, 03:31:02 PM
Goodbye Roy Hodgson.

At least yuh try brudda.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 05, 2011, 03:38:34 PM
anybody knows if it does have church on wednesday evenings? 

HAHAHA!  :rotfl:  :devil:

Chelsea lorse !

edit: City and Arsenal draw  :beermug:
 
;D
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 05, 2011, 03:38:48 PM
Damn Europa league for Chelski and Liverstool!  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 05, 2011, 03:40:37 PM
anybody knows if it does have church on wednesday evenings? 

Wherever it is they have found it!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 05, 2011, 03:52:45 PM
Winner today: MANCHESTER UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!

GLORY GLORY
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on January 05, 2011, 03:58:13 PM
How long before Ancelotti gets the axe?

Not saying that he's a bad manager- in fact I think he's one of the best around, but the team needs a breath of fresh air, and sometimes a change of coach is the required injection....
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on January 05, 2011, 04:04:08 PM
Goodbye Roy Hodgson.

At least yuh try brudda.

he has to go.....horrific game today...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on January 05, 2011, 04:27:53 PM
The EPL is pretty mediocre this season.  Imagine Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool all havin below par seasons.  Big yawn.  The bright light has been Spurs.  Man City doin better than before but they inconsistent like the rest of them.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 05, 2011, 04:54:13 PM
The EPL is pretty mediocre this season.  Imagine Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool all havin below par seasons.  Big yawn.  The bright light has been Spurs.  Man City doin better than before but they inconsistent like the rest of them.

The competitiveness of the league is there for all to see...the last place team beat the current Champions today... it's the best league in the world at the moment... United Arsenal Chelsea are all beign tested by everyone... it's not a run away league like La Liga where every weekend its a real or barca win .. only weekend I look forward to in La Liga is when Real and Barca square off

FORZA EPL!!!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on January 05, 2011, 05:05:59 PM
The EPL is pretty mediocre this season.  Imagine Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool all havin below par seasons.  Big yawn.  The bright light has been Spurs.  Man City doin better than before but they inconsistent like the rest of them.

The competitiveness of the league is there for all to see...the last place team beat the current Champions today... it's the best league in the world at the moment... United Arsenal Chelsea are all beign tested by everyone... it's not a run away league like La Liga where every weekend its a real or barca win .. only weekend I look forward to in La Liga is when Real and Barca square off

FORZA EPL!!!

Some of the other Spanish clubs need an injection of funds to get some more parity.  Madrid and Barca have the monopoly of star quality players, unlike in England where the top players are a bit more spread out...

Teams like Villarreal, Valencia and Sevilla would be serious title contenders if they had a few bigger names players...

In all honesty though, in the past 2 seasons (and so far this season as well) the gulf between Barca and Madrid, not in the standings but on the field of play itself has been as large as the gulf between Madrid and the rest of the pack... It has really become a lopsided league....and it hasn't always been like that, but money is playing a bigger and bigger role in football today, as seen with teams like Man City and Chelsea...and in Spain the money doesn't seem to be spread evenly. 

Give Valencia and Villareal an open checkbook like Man City and Chelsea and the battle at the top of the table would be alot more interesting. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 05, 2011, 05:07:20 PM
The EPL is pretty mediocre this season.  Imagine Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool all havin below par seasons.  Big yawn.  The bright light has been Spurs.  Man City doin better than before but they inconsistent like the rest of them.

The competitiveness of the league is there for all to see...the last place team beat the current Champions today... it's the best league in the world at the moment... United Arsenal Chelsea are all beign tested by everyone... it's not a run away league like La Liga where every weekend its a real or barca win .. only weekend I look forward to in La Liga is when Real and Barca square off

FORZA EPL!!!

Some of the other Spanish clubs need an injection of funds to get some more parity.  Madrid and Barca have the monopoly of star quality players, unlike in England where the top players are a bit more spread out...

Teams like Villarreal, Valencia and Sevilla would be serious title contenders if they had a few bigger names players...

In all honesty though, in the past 2 seasons (and so far this season as well) the gulf between Barca and Madrid has been as large as than the gulf between Madrid and the rest of the pack... It has really become a lopsided league....and it hasn't always been like that, but money is playing a bigger and bigger role in football today, as seen with teams like Man City and Chelsea...and in Spain the money doesn't seem to be spread evenly. 

Give Valencia and Villareal an open checkbook like Man City and Chelsea and the battle at the top of the table would be alot more interesting. 

yea no doubt

the market in England is better for investment it seems... better TV Rights..attendances ... so the owner makes more money... and now with the success of the EPL it will only get more investment

 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 05, 2011, 05:44:02 PM
How long before Ancelotti gets the axe?

Not saying that he's a bad manager- in fact I think he's one of the best around, but the team needs a breath of fresh air, and sometimes a change of coach is the required injection....



I think Ancelotti doing the best he can with the players he has at his disposal; I think they need new players to help freshen up the side. I doubt a new manager would be able to get better results with the same tired over worked players; you might as well ask him to get blood from a stone. Plus not even God could teach #21 to troway less or Anelka to play like he has a pulse.If they are going to get players they might as well keep Ancelotti.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 05, 2011, 05:47:21 PM
Chelsea's way to solve a problem  ::)

1) Throw money at it
2) Fire the coach

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on January 05, 2011, 05:56:10 PM
How long before Ancelotti gets the axe?

Not saying that he's a bad manager- in fact I think he's one of the best around, but the team needs a breath of fresh air, and sometimes a change of coach is the required injection....

but last year this team was ah <hyperbole>marauding harbinger of death and destruction<hyperbole> to nearly all comers, how it could be all d coaches fault now ??? , men gettin fired jus so, man leave, man leavin at d end off d season ,all kinda ting, d back room in ah straight mess, money alone does not good workin conditions make :(
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 05, 2011, 06:15:18 PM
Roy Hogdson looking like he suffering from culture shock and he like he is in over his head as the manager of Liverpool. Pressure!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on January 05, 2011, 06:24:19 PM
The EPL is pretty mediocre this season.  Imagine Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool all havin below par seasons.  Big yawn.  The bright light has been Spurs.  Man City doin better than before but they inconsistent like the rest of them.

The competitiveness of the league is there for all to see...the last place team beat the current Champions today... it's the best league in the world at the moment... United Arsenal Chelsea are all beign tested by everyone... it's not a run away league like La Liga where every weekend its a real or barca win .. only weekend I look forward to in La Liga is when Real and Barca square off

FORZA EPL!!!

Some of the other Spanish clubs need an injection of funds to get some more parity.  Madrid and Barca have the monopoly of star quality players, unlike in England where the top players are a bit more spread out...

Teams like Villarreal, Valencia and Sevilla would be serious title contenders if they had a few bigger names players...

In all honesty though, in the past 2 seasons (and so far this season as well) the gulf between Barca and Madrid, not in the standings but on the field of play itself has been as large as the gulf between Madrid and the rest of the pack... It has really become a lopsided league....and it hasn't always been like that, but money is playing a bigger and bigger role in football today, as seen with teams like Man City and Chelsea...and in Spain the money doesn't seem to be spread evenly. 

Give Valencia and Villareal an open checkbook like Man City and Chelsea and the battle at the top of the table would be alot more interesting. 

Kicker I see what you are saying, but Barcelona could turn around and say well we are doing it on talent developed at their club.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Daft Trini on January 05, 2011, 08:00:16 PM
chelsea...sea....sea.... how....oww.owwwww's the....eeeehhh...ehh....eeeehhh view....eeeeehhhh from....ommmm....ommmm down....nnnnnneeehh eeeeh threeeeeee  :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on January 05, 2011, 09:42:12 PM
The EPL is pretty mediocre this season.  Imagine Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool all havin below par seasons.  Big yawn.  The bright light has been Spurs.  Man City doin better than before but they inconsistent like the rest of them.

The competitiveness of the league is there for all to see...the last place team beat the current Champions today... it's the best league in the world at the moment... United Arsenal Chelsea are all beign tested by everyone... it's not a run away league like La Liga where every weekend its a real or barca win .. only weekend I look forward to in La Liga is when Real and Barca square off

FORZA EPL!!!

Some of the other Spanish clubs need an injection of funds to get some more parity.  Madrid and Barca have the monopoly of star quality players, unlike in England where the top players are a bit more spread out...

Teams like Villarreal, Valencia and Sevilla would be serious title contenders if they had a few bigger names players...

In all honesty though, in the past 2 seasons (and so far this season as well) the gulf between Barca and Madrid, not in the standings but on the field of play itself has been as large as the gulf between Madrid and the rest of the pack... It has really become a lopsided league....and it hasn't always been like that, but money is playing a bigger and bigger role in football today, as seen with teams like Man City and Chelsea...and in Spain the money doesn't seem to be spread evenly. 

Give Valencia and Villareal an open checkbook like Man City and Chelsea and the battle at the top of the table would be alot more interesting. 

Kicker I see what you are saying, but Barcelona could turn around and say well we are doing it on talent developed at their club.

Yeah but Barca still spends a lot on players when they feel the need...Ibra wasn't cheap, Villa wasn't cheap, D. Alves wasn't cheap...they spent big money on a defender (don't remember his name now) who barely even played..not sure if he's even still in the roster.  Barca is definitely a model for player development but they also have deep wallets that give them the extra cutting edge when they need it. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on January 06, 2011, 05:39:57 PM
Some times I don't really get these arguments. Since the Premier League started in 1992 only four teams have won the league with Blackburn  being a one time winner. Really its no different than in Spain, or Italy in the same time period. This season Hercules beat Barca & Levante beat Real Madrid. really when you look at it, it's the same
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: theworm2345 on January 08, 2011, 12:05:59 AM
Quote from: Owen Coyle
However, Coyle is optimistic Ricardo Gardner (knee) and Jlloyd Samuel (calf) may be back in action soon.

"I would hope that Ricardo Gardner and Jlloyd Samuel will be fit by the middle of January,'' Coyle said. "They are doing little bits and pieces at the moment and they are certainly on their way back. It's been a long time for those lads so we will have to make sure that we tread warily.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/861198/coyle-claims-16-ref-errors-have-cost-bolton?cc=5901
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kev on January 08, 2011, 12:57:32 AM
There is a difference in the league this year due to a number of factors imho. 

Money has and always will play a massive part in it, however Man City are the exceptions rather than the rule now, Manu are really spending and their squad isn't as frightening as it used to be, Ambramovich has pumped £100's Million into Chelsea and has an aging squad and new rules next year, Arsenal with the Emirates haven't been spending and Liverpool haven't really been spending.  Spurs needed to spend heavily as they were in big trouble season before last.  I think owners are starting to realise spending is a bit like being a hard man, eventually you come across someone harder or you get old, with money its someone with deeper pockets (ala City) or you go skint (ala Liverpool). 

On top of that teams have changed their attitude to the top 4 and no longer go and lie down but have a go as they have nothing to lose, this has helped in some of the results.  This has helped changed the attitude of other teams going to these grounds.

As for teams making a profit in the EPL, just look at Manu, Liverpool, Chelsea most are not. 

The EPL has been like a runaway merrygoround with ever increasing transfer fees and wages with the result of clubs just losing money, eventually everyone bar the very few exceptions will be thrown off if it is not slowed down. 

In the old division pre EPL better players were spread about a bit more, although Manu, Liverpool always bought the best, imho its much better for all fans and the league if we see a return towards that.  Squad sizes and financial rules will help, its nit just a problem in the EPL but all the leagues across Europe. 

As an example if you look at City's recent purchase, most mid table teams could improve their sides significant by adding 2/3 players for what City have shelled out, but all of them can't afford to do that.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 08, 2011, 07:52:19 AM
Hodgson Sacked, Dalglish in charge till end of season.....

they trying anything to beat United this weekend.... 

I must admit..I'm a bit worried now, I think we are too good and too strong for them but they will be up for this game big time... say wa.. may the best team win yes
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 11, 2011, 06:19:59 PM
City's strikers cost a 137mil plus. The new striker cost 27m, Tevez 25m, Ade 25m, Ballotelli 25m, Santa Cruz 20m plus and then Jo. Santa Cruz and Ade riding pine and Jo dose sometimes get run on the wing! This is what contributes to managers ( Erickson and Hughes) getting fired!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on January 12, 2011, 02:14:22 PM
Sweet goal from Torres 3 minutes in, only to be nullified by an equalizer that was helped by very poor defending.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on January 12, 2011, 03:27:09 PM
Blackpool 2 - 1 Liverpool 69'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: mukumsplau on January 12, 2011, 03:32:04 PM
i heart blackpool's heart
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 12, 2011, 04:09:47 PM
King Kenny boy... I wonder if they lose 3 in a row on the weekend if the fans will still be like NEVER FEAR KING KENNY IS HERE!!

SHIT SIDE
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 14, 2011, 09:07:33 PM
I want a Blackpool scarf-dig the colours and design!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 15, 2011, 09:56:10 AM
Like they replace Chelsea with Man City on Tv or wat? The Chelsea game not even on TV, I thought it may have been on ESPN but not even. It on ESPN home but not in the states.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 30, 2011, 06:14:20 PM
Fabregas is an elitist little twit! He can't get tackled, always trying to ref the game, seems to think Arsenal invented football and continually disrespects his opponents by questioning the way they choose to play the game. Arsene9 has taught him well! I hope if he does go to Barca he eats bench like Kleb. Decent player but very hard to like unless you are an Arsenal fan. Spoil and classless brat!
.
.Fabregas branded a "tit" on Twitter by Hudds midfielder

Mirror Football-Published 23:00 30/01/11 By John Cross
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Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas was last night accused of telling Huddersfield players to “f*** off” after their bad tempered FA Cup clash.

Huddersfield midfielder Anthony Pilkington claimed Fabregas refused to swap shirts and swore at Lee Pielter and Gary Roberts.

Pilkington said on his Twitter site: “2 lads asked him for his shirt and he told them to f*ck off!! Sick player but what a tit!”

Pilkington later apologised for his Twitter outburst and claimed it was in the heat of the moment.

Huddersfield players were unhappy with Fabregas for waving an imaginary card to try and get Jamie McCombe sent off before the Arsenal captain fired home a late winner from the penalty spot.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Andre on January 31, 2011, 08:02:15 AM
hmmmmmm....

Torres leaves training ground in helicopterReports say Liverpool striker Fernando Torres has left the club's training ground in a helicopter, adding to speculation that the Spaniard could be on his way to Premier League rival Chelsea. British newspapers say Chelsea is prepared to pay 50 million pounds ($79.5 million) for the Spain striker, but Liverpool has so far denied a deal is in the works.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on February 02, 2011, 02:31:52 PM
Tevez is a real player. The fella work rate is out of this world. I think you will be hard pressed to find a player with such a work rate.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on February 02, 2011, 06:11:10 PM
Come on Spurs make the push for fourth!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on February 02, 2011, 07:14:12 PM
Tevez is a real player. The fella work rate is out of this world. I think you will be hard pressed to find a player with such a work rate.

 :thumbsup: leggo beast
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on February 02, 2011, 08:06:35 PM
They runnin this nice little feature on Shaka during half time of EPL matches on Foxsoccer Plus. Hope people get to scope it.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on February 02, 2011, 08:51:34 PM
Tevez is a real player. The fella work rate is out of this world. I think you will be hard pressed to find a player with such a work rate.

Dirk Kuyt.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 02, 2011, 10:47:42 PM
Tevez is a real player. The fella work rate is out of this world. I think you will be hard pressed to find a player with such a work rate.

Tevez in a league all by he self....the man is a PEST!!  I swear he does do two lines and some crystal meth before each game.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: fish on February 02, 2011, 10:57:50 PM
Tevez is and will always be top 5 of my players. Since Boca days
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on February 04, 2011, 11:17:19 PM
As usual, home team listed first.  All times EDT:


Saturday February 5

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c1/46/0,,12306~3688129,00.gif)  Stoke City v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/78/f3/0,,12306~3339128,00.gif)  Sunderland - 7:30 am ESPN2/ESPN3.com

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif)  Manchester City v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/77/92/0,,12306~8819319,00.gif) West Bromwich Albion- 9:55 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/76/92/0,,12306~8819318,00.gif)  Newcastle United v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif)  Arsenal- 10 am FSC/Fox Deportes

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c6/9f/0,,12306~6004678,00.gif)  Wolverhampton Wolves v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/72/f3/0,,12306~3339122,00.gif)  Manchester United - 12 pm FSC/Fox Deportes


Sunday February 6

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7a/f3/0,,12306~3339130,00.gif)  West Ham v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/be/9f/0,,12306~6004670,00.gif)  Birmingham v. - 8:30 am FSP

big game!!  big game!!  big game!!  big game!!

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif)  Chelsea v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool- 11 am FSC/Fox Deportes

big game!!  big game!!  big game!!  big game!!


Manday February 7

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6c/f3/0,,12306~3339116,00.gif)  Fulham v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Villa 3 pm FSC/Fox Deportes
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 05, 2011, 11:11:31 AM
GOAL CRAZY PREM

1705: I can tell you, by the way, that today is officially a record Saturday for Premier League goals, beating the 36 goals scored on 27 November. Breathtaking.

1702: And we've still got Wolves v Man Utd to come. Just... wow.

1700: A total of 33 goals we saw from our six 1500 Premier League matches. That's nearly an average of six a match. Added to our early kick-off, that makes a grand total of 38 goals in seven games. I can't get my head around it.

1658: What on earth? I mean, seriously people, what on earth have we just witnessed? Extraordinary afternoon. Utterly extraordinary.


1656: FULL-TIME Newcastle 4-4 Arsenal

1654: FULL-TIME Wigan 4-3 Blackburn

1654: FULL-TIME Tottenham 2-1 Bolton

1653: FULL-TIME Man City 3-0 West Brom

1653: FULL-TIME Everton 5-3 Blackpool

1652: FULL-TIME Aston Villa 2-2 Fulham

FT Stoke 3- 2 Sunderland
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2011, 11:20:39 AM
GOAL CRAZY PREM

1705: I can tell you, by the way, that today is officially a record Saturday for Premier League goals, beating the 36 goals scored on 27 November. Breathtaking.

1702: And we've still got Wolves v Man Utd to come. Just... wow.

1700: A total of 33 goals we saw from our six 1500 Premier League matches. That's nearly an average of six a match. Added to our early kick-off, that makes a grand total of 38 goals in seven games. I can't get my head around it.

1658: What on earth? I mean, seriously people, what on earth have we just witnessed? Extraordinary afternoon. Utterly extraordinary.


1656: FULL-TIME Newcastle 4-4 Arsenal

1654: FULL-TIME Wigan 4-3 Blackburn

1654: FULL-TIME Tottenham 2-1 Bolton

1653: FULL-TIME Man City 3-0 West Brom

1653: FULL-TIME Everton 5-3 Blackpool

1652: FULL-TIME Aston Villa 2-2 Fulham

FT Stoke 3- 2 Sunderland


 West Brom and Bolton rel pull stones.  Dey spoil it!



**manUre like dey wanted in on de pullstones action, too...and get it. Well done, Wolves. :beermug:**
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on February 06, 2011, 09:12:22 AM
any link available for the chelsea - livers game.????

atdhe doh have it on their lineup
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on February 06, 2011, 09:14:16 AM
any link available for the chelsea - livers game.????

atdhe doh have it on their lineup

um yuh not home or yuh doh have FSC ah tink dey showing it dere........
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on February 06, 2011, 09:17:53 AM
any link available for the chelsea - livers game.????

atdhe doh have it on their lineup

um yuh not home or yuh doh have FSC ah tink dey showing it dere........

i watching d pre game show rite now on fsc, but wud they block the game? sportsmax dont have the rights?
i dont have sportsmax
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on February 06, 2011, 10:16:59 AM
any link available for the chelsea - livers game.????

atdhe doh have it on their lineup

um yuh not home or yuh doh have FSC ah tink dey showing it dere........

i watching d pre game show rite now on fsc, but wud they block the game? sportsmax dont have the rights?
i dont have sportsmax

http://www.atdhe.fm/index.php?option=com_lsh&view=

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=103740&part=sports
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on February 06, 2011, 11:18:18 AM
This game is f**king lullabys.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 06, 2011, 11:27:53 AM
This game is f**king lullabys.

liverpool come to play to not lose and Chelsea playin' like dey eh want to win....bullshit in de back, boom, bang, 1-0 liverpool! steups!!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: fari on February 06, 2011, 11:35:10 AM
what a snore fest...chelsea players play around torres, me ent see like they try to look for him or include him


look pool now score
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: fari on February 06, 2011, 11:53:39 AM
stamford bridge ent no fortress no more...i like luiz though, he will be immense for chelski.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on February 06, 2011, 11:54:54 AM
f**k u Chelsea :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kaliman2006 on February 06, 2011, 11:55:39 AM
Big win for Liverpool, albeit a bit lucky. Chelsea should definitely have had at least one penalty given in the 2nd half, especially that handball.

But given what Liverpool has been through this season, I will take all the luck my side can get.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 06, 2011, 12:00:38 PM
stamford bridge ent no fortress no more...i like luiz though, he will be immense for chelski.

Nice composed defender. Good touches and very comfortable on the ball.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on February 06, 2011, 12:03:22 PM
Big win for Liverpool, albeit a bit lucky. Chelsea should definitely have had at least one penalty given in the 2nd half, especially that handball.

But given what Liverpool has been through this season, I will take all the luck my side can get.

That was never a penalty for me... the ball came at Lucas at pace from a short range and he attempted to get his arm away from its path.  The ball actually grazed off his stomach before making contact with the arm... would have been very harsh to give that in my opinion.  The stupid foul by Johnson is another matter.... but that's Karma, for both Padriguez' miss and for Torres' defection.


Proud of my team today... this is the kind of fight, composure and spirit that's been missing the past 18 months.  Torres want to play Champions League ball, let him go chase it.  We want players who want to be with the club, the rats who want to jump ship at the first sign of water over the gunwales are free to leave.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 06, 2011, 12:12:07 PM
Big win for Liverpool, albeit a bit lucky. Chelsea should definitely have had at least one penalty given in the 2nd half, especially that handball.

But given what Liverpool has been through this season, I will take all the luck my side can get.

That was never a penalty for me... the ball came at Lucas at pace from a short range and he attempted to get his arm away from its path.  The ball actually grazed off his stomach before making contact with the arm... would have been very harsh to give that in my opinion.  The stupid foul by Johnson is another matter.... but that's Karma, for both Padriguez' miss and for Torres' defection.


Proud of my team today... this is the kind of fight, composure and spirit that's been missing the past 18 months.  Torres want to play Champions League ball, let him go chase it.  We want players who want to be with the club, the rats who want to jump ship at the first sign of water over the gunwales are free to leave.

Preach brother.  No one man is Liverpool.  Start dreaming about Suarez and Carroll together, plus Meireles.  Best thing Hodgson do.  This Meireles fella could really sniff out a goal.  How and where will Joe Cole play?  I still believe he has something left in him.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on February 06, 2011, 12:22:39 PM
Big win for Pool...big loss for Chelsea- not a great game for the neutrals...pretty dull and scrappy.

Chelsea seems clueless with the ball, and Liverpool plays to a plan full stop. 

Never thought that the Liverpool - Chelsea match up ever really provided good spectator football.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 06, 2011, 12:35:56 PM
Big win for Pool...big loss for Chelsea- not a great game for the neutrals...pretty dull and scrappy.

Chelsea seems clueless with the ball, and Liverpool plays to a plan full stop. 

Never thought that the Liverpool - Chelsea match up ever really provided good spectator football.

Agree.  With the coaching history (Mourinho vs. Benitez) over the last four years, it has often proven to be a match oftactical acumen.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 06, 2011, 12:42:28 PM
Big win for Pool...big loss for Chelsea- not a great game for the neutrals...pretty dull and scrappy.

Chelsea seems clueless with the ball, and Liverpool plays to a plan full stop. 

Never thought that the Liverpool - Chelsea match up ever really provided good spectator football.

Agree.  With the coaching history (Mourinho vs. Benitez) over the last four years, it has often proven to be a match oftactical acumen.



...the so-called "boring" football that Mourinho was so often criticised for implimenting, seems to still be the overall philosophy.  Very frustrating to watch at times...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on February 06, 2011, 12:53:44 PM
I thought the game was fairly even. Scrappy at times but good. I enjoyed it. The goal was well taken by meirles. But I blamed Cech to an extent. I thought Ivanovic could have cut the ball off but he left it for Cech, seeing he(Cech) had blasted him for a cross ball in the first half. I remember Philbert Prince saying, boom it out when in doubt.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 06, 2011, 01:01:00 PM
I thought the game was fairly even. Scrappy at times but good. I enjoyed it. The goal was well taken by meirles. But I blamed Cech to an extent. I thought Ivanovic could have cut the ball off but he left it for Cech, seeing he(Cech) had blasted him for a cross ball in the first half. I remember Philbert Prince saying, boom it out when in doubt.

Doh forget the two men that were ball-watching on the weak side as Meireles stormed in. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 06, 2011, 01:04:15 PM
I thought the game was fairly even. Scrappy at times but good. I enjoyed it. The goal was well taken by meirles. But I blamed Cech to an extent. I thought Ivanovic could have cut the ball off but he left it for Cech, seeing he(Cech) had blasted him for a cross ball in the first half. I remember Philbert Prince saying, boom it out when in doubt.

Doh forget the two men that were ball-watching on the weak side as Meireles stormed in. 

...they were probably left flat-footed by Cech's half attempt at claiming for the ball....I thought he was going to come for it and he ended up just falling back....
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on February 06, 2011, 01:10:40 PM
I just knew that spat with Ivanovic would cause problems for them... just didn't think it would be so immediate in proving me right.  Cech overreacted at a very understandable play by Ivanovic... after he fell he had no way of seeing Cech diving for the ball as he attempted to clear the second time and Cech showed him up unnecessarily. 

On the goal you could see it clearly affected him as he deferred, perhaps too much to Cech... except Cechken wanted no part of the contact and was himself unsure what Ivanovic was going to do... he waiting to see what Ivanovic will do rather than asserting himself.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on February 06, 2011, 03:14:58 PM
Well done Liverpool; knocking Chelski back in their place and shutting up Terry! Chelski do not appear to have a plan B on or off the field. Very easy to defend when they depend on their backs to provide width  and they not playing players in position of strength. Very reliant on the 3 in midfield and only one of the three can be considered creative. Off the field plan appears to be throw money at any player that may take the bait. Chelski needed a winger more than they needed Torres. Spending more than they are bringing in. Interested in seeing how it all turns out.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on February 11, 2011, 05:04:31 PM
Not as full a TV slate as we've become used to.... but a big Manchester Derby sets the table.


As usual, home team listed first.  All times EDT:


Saturday February 12


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/72/f3/0,,12306~3339122,00.gif) Manchester United v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif) Manchester City- 7:30 am FSC/Fox Deportes

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7b/f3/0,,12306~3339131,00.gif)  Wigan Athletic- 9:55 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif)  Arsenal v.  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c6/9f/0,,12306~6004678,00.gif)  Wolverhampton Wolves - 9:55 am ESPN2/ESPN3.com

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/78/f3/0,,12306~3339128,00.gif)  Sunderland v.  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/79/f3/0,,12306~3339129,00.gif) Tottenham Hotspurs - 10 am FSC/Fox Deportes


Sunday February 13


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/67/f3/0,,12306~3339111,00.gif)  Bolton Wanderers v.  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6b/f3/0,,12306~3339115,00.gif)  Everton- 10 am FSC/Fox Deportes


Monday February 14


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6c/f3/0,,12306~3339116,00.gif)  Fulham v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif) Chelsea- 2:55 am ESPN2/ESPN3.com

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on February 12, 2011, 09:08:15 AM
Fox jiggered the schedule... Liverpool v. Wigan on FSC now.  My guess is that the Sunderland game was switched to FSP instead.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: DeSoWa on February 13, 2011, 12:00:12 AM
Why do the people on ESPN always have to talk about other games and scores during their live game?  >:( That does really piss me off...they don't do that on FSC.

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on February 13, 2011, 08:46:23 AM
Why do the people on ESPN always have to talk about other games and scores during their live game?  >:( That does really piss me off...they don't do that on FSC.

Big Up!

I thought it was only me it was bothering. I agree, always flashing scores, if you happen to be taping any of those games or waiting to watch them they done ruin it for you.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on February 14, 2011, 05:13:56 PM
Torres playing like he jus realize he not playing for a bigger side! It would be poetic justice if Chelski finish outside of the top four! To quote Kevin Keegan "I would luv it"! Men like to critiszie Fergie but he got it right when he said that Chelski as a team could not improve anymore due to the age of their players and were on the down side. Only it took a year later to happen.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on February 14, 2011, 05:30:50 PM
 :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 14, 2011, 05:56:35 PM
Torres playing like he jus realize he not playing for a bigger side! It would be poetic justice if Chelski finish outside of the top four! To quote Kevin Keegan "I would luv it"! Men like to critiszie Fergie but he got it right when he said that Chelski as a team could not improve anymore due to the age of their players and were on the down side. Only it took a year later to happen.

Men does criticize fergie because he is an arrogant, hypocritical, dog of a human being with very few redeeming qualities outside of the niche he found in english football.  The criticism have nothing to do with what he said or didn't say about Chelsea so whether he got it right or wrong a year later or not, it wouldn't change people's general view of him.  This year will just be another of the usual for allyuh side: win th league, get knocked out of the CL.  Not the best thing for y'all self-proclaimed legacy but something to please the haters (like me) all the same. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on February 14, 2011, 06:05:05 PM
Torres playing like he jus realize he not playing for a bigger side! It would be poetic justice if Chelski finish outside of the top four! To quote Kevin Keegan "I would luv it"! Men like to critiszie Fergie but he got it right when he said that Chelski as a team could not improve anymore due to the age of their players and were on the down side. Only it took a year later to happen.

Men does criticize fergie because he is an arrogant, hypocritical, dog of a human being with very few redeeming qualities outside of the niche he found in english football.  The criticism have nothing to do with what he said or didn't say about Chelsea so whether he got it right or wrong a year later or not, it wouldn't change people's general view of him.  This year will just be another of the usual for allyuh side: win th league, get knocked out of the CL.  Not the best thing for y'all self-proclaimed legacy but something to please the haters (like me) all the same. 


 :nailbiting: :drool: Smooches!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 14, 2011, 06:12:19 PM
Torres playing like he jus realize he not playing for a bigger side! It would be poetic justice if Chelski finish outside of the top four! To quote Kevin Keegan "I would luv it"! Men like to critiszie Fergie but he got it right when he said that Chelski as a team could not improve anymore due to the age of their players and were on the down side. Only it took a year later to happen.

Men does criticize fergie because he is an arrogant, hypocritical, dog of a human being with very few redeeming qualities outside of the niche he found in english football.  The criticism have nothing to do with what he said or didn't say about Chelsea so whether he got it right or wrong a year later or not, it wouldn't change people's general view of him.  This year will just be another of the usual for allyuh side: win th league, get knocked out of the CL.  Not the best thing for y'all self-proclaimed legacy but something to please the haters (like me) all the same. 


 :nailbiting: :drool: Smooches!

  You, DieHard, Sammy, fergie....all ah allyuh manUre could kiss it for all I care!  :D
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 26, 2011, 01:03:32 PM
How this thread so far? rotting on page 3

United 4-0 away to Wigan.. 4 points clear.. 2 massive games ahead in the prem, Chelsea and Liverpool away.. want 6, expecting 4.

17 goals in 6 games today.. 3.4 goals average a game today

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kev on February 26, 2011, 03:19:05 PM
Thought I would put this in here for anybody that remembers him.

No age at all. RIP

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/9408254.stm

Former Wolves and Spurs defender Dean Richards dies

Dean Richards, the former Wolves, Southampton, Bradford and Tottenham defender, has died at the age of 36.

Richards passed away on Saturday morning after losing his long-term battle with illness.

During his spell at Spurs, Richards began to suffer from dizzy spells and headaches and he was forced to retire in 2005 after taking medical advice.

In 2007 Richards was made youth-team coach at Bradford City, his hometown club and where he started his career.

A statement on the Bantams' website read: "The club are truly devastated to hear of the death of former Bradford City fans' favourite Dean Richards."

Richards' biggest transfer was his £8.1m move from Saints to Spurs in 2001 but he was to make only 73 league appearances in his four years with the north Londoners.

At that time Richards was diagnosed with an inner ear infection and also underwent a scan for a brain tumour but the results of the scan proved negative.

He was, however, advised it would be harmful to his health to continue playing and hung up his boots in March 2005.

He said at the time: "I am obviously deeply disappointed to be giving up the sport I love, but it's the only choice."

Richards began his career at Bradford, before joining Wolves, where he became a firm favourite.

The Black Country club said in statement on Saturday: "Everyone at Wolves is saddened to hear of the death of Dean Richards.

"Remembered for his trademark skilful breaks out of defence as well as his ability in the air, Richards will always be fondly remembered by Wolves fans who continued to follow his career closely when he moved on to Southampton and Tottenham.

"There will be a tribute paid to the defender ahead of next Sunday's game with his former club Spurs."

Wolves boss Mick McCarthy said following his side's 4-0 win over Blackpool: "I can't tell you how sad I feel for him and his family - 36 years of age. It is just devastating for them.

"He was a nice fella, and he is well remembered here because he scored a goal against West Bromwich Albion, so he will always be fondly remembered.

"I didn't know him, but he has played against my teams and he was a very good footballer."

Opposite number Ian Holloway added: "Dean lived a couple of doors down for me when I lived in St Albans. He was a wonderful fella, my love goes out to his family."

After four years at Molineux, Richards moved to then-Premiership side Southampton, who were managed by current Cardiff boss Dave Jones.

Richards also impressed under Jones's successor Glenn Hoddle, who took the centre-back with him to White Hart Lane in 2001. The fee was the highest for a player with no senior international caps.

But Richards, who played for England's Under-21s on four occasions, was unable to overcome injuries and illness and his career was cut short at the age of 31.

Tottenham said in a statement: "Everyone at Tottenham Hotspur was saddened to hear of the death of our former player Dean Richards.

"We extend our sincere condolences to the family of Dean Richards at this very sad time."
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on May 07, 2011, 09:37:55 AM
Everton may play a very basic game but no team is better at getting the most out of their players' talents. I have great respect for that team and their coach. Cahil does scare center backs just by his presence; he came on against City and all of a sudden City were scrabbling in the box to clear the ball. Pity the fools who have to play them at the end of the season! ;D
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on May 07, 2011, 09:39:21 AM
Blackburn vs West ham looking like the game of the day. 10 minutes to go, tied 1-1
Gotta love a relegation battle.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on May 07, 2011, 09:50:21 AM
Keane now throw away the season.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on May 07, 2011, 10:00:11 AM
Blackburn vs West ham looking like the game of the day. 10 minutes to go, tied 1-1
Gotta love a relegation battle.


West Ham dodged going down a the season the had Tevez and get away with playing him for that season. So I hope they go down this season. The FA ruled in their favor only because they felt they were to good a club with big history to go down, while Shefield Wednesday or United, I forgot which one, ended up going down. Any side who decide Wayne Bridge is the answer deserves to go down anyway!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on May 07, 2011, 10:28:14 AM
Everton may play a very basic game but no team is better at getting the most out of their players' talents. I have great respect for that team and their coach. Cahil does scare center backs just by his presence; he came on against City and all of a sudden City were scrabbling in the box to clear the ball. Pity the fools who have to play them at the end of the season! ;D

Just saw the highlights... incredible header by old man Osman to win it.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on May 08, 2011, 06:34:26 AM
Torres playing like he jus realize he not playing for a bigger side! It would be poetic justice if Chelski finish outside of the top four! To quote Kevin Keegan "I would luv it"! Men like to critiszie Fergie but he got it right when he said that Chelski as a team could not improve anymore due to the age of their players and were on the down side. Only it took a year later to happen.

Men does criticize fergie because he is an arrogant, hypocritical, dog of a human being with very few redeeming qualities outside of the niche he found in english football.  The criticism have nothing to do with what he said or didn't say about Chelsea so whether he got it right or wrong a year later or not, it wouldn't change people's general view of him.  This year will just be another of the usual for allyuh side: win th league, get knocked out of the CL.  Not the best thing for y'all self-proclaimed legacy but something to please the haters (like me) all the same. 
      What is it you guys does gain from hateing another person,someone you never met or know personally,someone who can care less how you or anyone else feels,you all does just be eating up yourselves for no reason,the thing is life goes on regardless of how anyone feels.
Title: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 18, 2012, 05:38:57 AM
2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.

Premier League fixtures announced.

(PA) - Manchester City will begin their defence of the Premier League with a home match against Southampton.

Roberto Mancini's men, who edged Manchester United to the title last month, face Nigel Adkins' newly-promoted side on 18 August at the Etihad Stadium.

United, pipped on the final day of 2011/12 by their city rivals, open with a match at Everton before taking on Fulham at Old Trafford the following weekend.

Arsenal, who finished third in 2011/12, kick-off with a home game against Sunderland, before taking to the road with trips to Stoke and Liverpool.

Two UEFA Europa League rivals meet on the opening day at the Sports Direct Arena, with Newcastle United taking on Tottenham Hotspur, currently managerless after the departure of Harry Redknapp.

Roberto di Matteo's career as permanent Chelsea coach starts with a game at Wigan. The Blues' first home game of 2012/13 is against Newcastle.

Brendan Rodgers' Liverpool open at West Bromwich Albion - although the first three Anfield fixtures are more eye-catching, with Manchester City, Arsenal and Manchester United the visitors.

The team Rodgers left, Swansea, now managed by Michael Laudrup, begin at QPR.

West Ham United's return to the Premier League starts with a home match against Aston Villa, now under the leadership of Paul Lambert.

Fellow newcomers Reading will also have home advantage in their first top flight game for four years - with Stoke the opening-day opponents at the Madejski Stadium.

The other first-day match sees Fulham and Norwich meet at Craven Cottage in Chris Hughton's first competitive game since replacing Lambert as Canaries boss.

Boxing Day sees Manchester United face Newcastle, while Sunderland and City meet at the Stadium of Light.

Newcastle against Arsenal is the most eye-catching of the 19 May fixtures, when newly-promoted West Ham and Reading play for what could be three priceless final day points at Upton Park.

Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Errol on June 18, 2012, 05:49:36 AM
A tune for the haters.

Pump up your speakers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKNtLwycn0I&feature=BFa&list=PL56D877FB6381C20E

Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 18, 2012, 07:51:35 AM
Tough 1st month schedule for 'Pool, but we seem to play up to the big boys, so that may work in our favor.  Hopefully, we can turn around that dismal home from of last year.
Title: The Premiership, 2012-2013 Edition
Post by: Blue on August 18, 2012, 10:37:39 AM
Is there a thread for this yet?

Beautiful day here in England and the goals have already been flying in.

Now settling down to watch Spurs v Newcastle. Expecting Newcastle to blowout any team managed by AVB. Anyone notice AVB has gone for a change of image? He swapped the swanky suits at Chelsea to a t-shirt and track pants at Spurs. Still gonna lose.
Title: Re: The Premiership, 2012-2013 Edition
Post by: Cocorite on August 18, 2012, 12:51:01 PM
Will miss seeing the puppet master, Song in the midfield for Arsenal. NOW that team is really not the same.

Demba Ba's goal. . .what a beauty
Title: Re: The Premiership, 2012-2013 Edition
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 18, 2012, 12:55:39 PM
Will miss seeing the puppet master, Song in the midfield for Arsenal. NOW that team is really not the same.

Demba Ba's goal. . .what a beauty

Beautiful goal!  Between he and Cisse, their instincts for goal is terribly impressive boy, dem men seem to have a knack for coming up eith the incredible......and Brad Friedel made it look rel nice, too.  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on August 19, 2012, 10:35:01 AM
City is looking very flat and complacent so far. The newly promoted Southampton are leading the champions 2-1 to some very well taken goals.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: lefty on August 19, 2012, 10:36:34 AM
City is looking very flat and complacent so far. The newly promoted Southampton are leading the champions 2-1 to some very well taken goals.
boy SH eh come to lay dong everybody need to take note
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Observer on August 19, 2012, 10:49:22 AM
Game have a nice tempo. SH defender make a school boy error to give City the go ahead
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: fari on August 19, 2012, 11:06:27 AM
southhampton learn some hard lessons today.  i admire their pluckiness tho
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Cocorite on August 19, 2012, 11:54:47 AM
It hard to be a City supporter jed. Dey like tuh do tings "D" hard way.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: lefty on August 19, 2012, 12:24:53 PM
It hard to be a City supporter jed. Dey like tuh do tings "D" hard way.
me eh cater bout dem but dey brand nice...ent goh shed a tear when loss doh especially if it help my team........goh always want dem to bore manu doh...dat goes without sayin
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on August 19, 2012, 01:34:17 PM
City not winning it this year.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: lefty on August 19, 2012, 01:45:01 PM
City not winning it this year.

yeah ah is chelsea ;) :beermug:
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 19, 2012, 01:53:45 PM
City not winning it this year.

van persie is de only trophy allyuh takin' home dis season, so polish him up real nice and keep orff all de duss.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on August 19, 2012, 01:58:59 PM
Underestimate us at your own risk. The title is ours this season.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: lefty on August 19, 2012, 02:50:06 PM
Underestimate us at your own risk. The title is ours this season.
nobody underestimatin atleast not me...I jus like to throw jabs :angel: :angel:
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Peong on August 19, 2012, 06:00:17 PM
Nasri was playin some smart ball today.  All dem goals and Balo yet to be unleashed.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: mukumsplau on August 21, 2012, 08:59:46 AM
mad props to de rossi..anyone who knows italian ball would have been extremely surprised if he'd have gone to manchester city..he stood to make a huge huge huuge amount...im sure this would hurt mancini as de rossi is one of the best out there...he loves roma, roma loves him, the fans love him...true true bandiera
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Cocorite on August 22, 2012, 03:23:45 PM
Ok meh two teams start out good . . . Let's go Chelsea

Although Man City like tuh give yuh heart attack
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: JRtheWriter on August 25, 2012, 06:58:39 AM
EDU to Stoke, Cameron joined the other week, and they already have Jones...as an American Trini,  I guess I found a 2nd EPL club to support!  :beermug:
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 25, 2012, 10:54:36 AM
Once again Chelsea (and Torres) benefit from a dubious call. Phil f**king Dowd again... king of the soft penalty decisions.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 25, 2012, 10:59:54 AM
Once again Chelsea (and Torres) benefit from a dubious call. Phil f**king Dowd again... king of the soft penalty decisions.

replays showed that the penalty wasn't soft and dunious at all.  Why yuh doh huch yuh mudda c**t fuh a change?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on September 01, 2012, 11:49:24 AM
City vs QPR.

It is amazing to me that Sean Wright Phillips still is in the EPL and starts games. He stilll does the same shite he has been doing a good 6 years now. He hasn't grown any, has lost speed, still dribbling the ball out of bounds and losing the ball tryin the same lame dribbles. Still frustrating tuh watch. What does he bring to a side? His father must have pictures of Mark Hughes or something.

Lord knows also how Rob Greene still have a job.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 01, 2012, 01:07:36 PM
City vs QPR.

It is amazing to me that Sean Wright Phillips still is in the EPL and starts games. He stilll does the same shite he has been doing a good 6 years now. He hasn't grown any, has lost speed, still dribbling the ball out of bounds and losing the ball tryin the same lame dribbles. Still frustrating tuh watch. What does he bring to a side? His father must have pictures of Mark Hughes or something.

Lord knows also how Rob Greene still have a job.

Listen, the neville brothers had us y'all all fooled for YEARS passin' themselves orff as "footballers".....and STILL do....neither one ah dem have SWP skills....so if dem coulda play in this league, who is he?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on September 01, 2012, 01:32:22 PM
City vs QPR.

It is amazing to me that Sean Wright Phillips still is in the EPL and starts games. He stilll does the same shite he has been doing a good 6 years now. He hasn't grown any, has lost speed, still dribbling the ball out of bounds and losing the ball tryin the same lame dribbles. Still frustrating tuh watch. What does he bring to a side? His father must have pictures of Mark Hughes or something.

Lord knows also how Rob Greene still have a job.

Listen, the neville brothers had us y'all all fooled for YEARS passin' themselves orff as "footballers".....and STILL do....neither one ah dem have SWP skills....so if dem coulda play in this league, who is he?

SWP just waiting tuh be trampled since he just taking up space and he way down there gettin in people's way.  Next time he attempt a cross that get by the defender let me know. Midget! ;D
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Banter Banton on September 02, 2012, 06:42:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZkHENGoTGRQ
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on September 02, 2012, 08:58:05 AM
Newcastle vs Villa on FSC Plus-11am est. Cisse and BA duo on show!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: dinho on September 02, 2012, 11:00:18 AM
Saw this on Yahoo live text of the Newcastle v Aston Villa game today:

" Ciaran Clark scores Villa's 46th Premier League goal by an Irishman, overtaking Wales's 45 goals for the club. Of all non-English nationalities scoring for Villa only Trinidad & Tobago have more - 62.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on September 02, 2012, 11:24:43 AM
Geez anages! because Dempsey now at Spurs, FSC is now going tuh kill we with their "expertise" on Spurs. Leave dem and AVB alone. If f@ckin Dempsey wasn't there they wouldn't have been so vested!
Title: Re: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 12:08:03 PM
Saw this on Yahoo live text of the Newcastle v Aston Villa game today:

" Ciaran Clark scores Villa's 46th Premier League goal by an Irishman, overtaking Wales's 45 goals for the club. Of all non-English nationalities scoring for Villa only Trinidad & Tobago have more - 62.

Yorke! Legend
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on September 15, 2012, 08:56:39 AM
Nice tuh see Julio Caesar in the EPL, he will save them some points. I was shocked for a minute when I realize it was him then I remembered he had made the switch. I doh even remember who was QPR's previous goalie!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2012, 10:33:46 AM
No shake hand for Terry, Anton leaves him hanging
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: elan on September 17, 2012, 02:40:45 PM
Ref is having a mightmare, in this Everton vs NUFC game.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: JRtheWriter on September 17, 2012, 02:50:15 PM
Just as I was about to say Justice served for Everton, Ba puts another in... smh
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: elan on September 17, 2012, 02:52:26 PM
Daiz bacchanal in this game........pace for so.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 17, 2012, 02:52:41 PM
Game of the week.
It have everything. Drama, goals, missed calls, bad fouls... and Demba Ba
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on September 17, 2012, 04:39:25 PM
Ref is having a mightmare, in this Everton vs NUFC game.

Assistant ref you mean.  Ref had one bad call when he failed to play the advantage on a Newcastle counter.  That near side AR probably will be in the Championship by next week.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 06:30:17 AM
Come on United!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on September 23, 2012, 02:10:55 PM
Just read that Terry retired from International football.His reasons for doing it reminds me of Lance Armstrong! Loser!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on October 07, 2012, 08:55:33 AM
WTF wrong these Americans on FSC? So Fredel eh start the match and the man asking the next American "what bothers you most about that decision?" Really? No wonder yuh still cah take dem serious! Ah notice he aint ask Warren the Englishman!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: mukumsplau on October 07, 2012, 09:15:58 AM
allyuh really allow fsc amateurs to raise allyuh blood pressure...
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 07, 2012, 08:58:53 PM
WTF wrong these Americans on FSC? So Fredel eh start the match and the man asking the next American "what bothers you most about that decision?" Really? No wonder yuh still cah take dem serious! Ah notice he aint ask Warren the Englishman!

I dunno, this is one time (and probably the ONLY time) I will ever "agree" with them....AVB has his reasons, he watchin' the team train, day in, day out, but I think Brad Friedel had a whole lot more top-class performances left in him and has been way too much of a professional (throughout his career) than to have been so unceremoniously cast to the bench like he was.  I think that whatever success spurs is going to see under AVB this season, they coulda still see it with Friedel finishing out the season as their starter and THEN bring in Hugo Lloris or whichever else No.1 international they coulda get for next season......but is AVB we talkin' 'bout here, the same man who did banish men like Anelka and Alex from Chelsea like convicted felons....
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on October 20, 2012, 06:31:32 AM
Dempsey is a slow, plodding, deleberate footballer, who seems tuh need a lot of time tuh make a play. The man kill a nice fast break by taking the ball and start spinning like ah top instead of heading for goal.

Gallas look like he on his last legs-surprise he aint buss it yet tuh Italy.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on October 20, 2012, 06:59:22 AM
De Foe deadly!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on October 20, 2012, 07:14:25 AM
Mata shows what true class is.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on October 20, 2012, 07:37:38 AM
Kyle Walker is another overrated English shithoung! What a f@ckin goat! Ade stopped playing football ah doh know why he decide tuh even get on the pitch.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Blue on October 20, 2012, 07:40:01 AM
Yall know we run dis town :beermug:
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Peong on October 20, 2012, 09:53:55 AM
Man City score in injury time.

Dzeko is the best Man City striker.  The man simply scores.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: lefty on October 28, 2012, 10:51:46 AM
game boy manu had we pegged back but we comin on stronger game on

DHW musbe startin to shit bricks either way good game..............still tink we need ah battering ram for these games torres still ent quite cuttin it he doin ok but............
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 10:53:51 AM
Waiting till game Done to comment. Have to keep the goat away
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 11:13:48 AM
Was waiting to see how long it take before the defence start struggling against pace attack. Need Scholes or someone to settle the midfield.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 11:21:24 AM
Bad tackle by Ivan, he knew what was up. Take one for the team.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 11:27:07 AM
Lol @ torres soft drop. Referee angle looked like a dive. Look 50/50 to me.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 28, 2012, 11:37:34 AM
Lol @ torres soft drop. Referee angle looked like a dive. Look 50/50 to me.

   50/50 is when two players make equal attempts and get equal leverage or footing at a ball....not one man makin' contact with the other.
Title: Re: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 11:40:56 AM
Lol @ torres soft drop. Referee angle looked like a dive. Look 50/50 to me.

   50/50 is when two players make equal attempts and get equal leverage or footing at a ball....not one man makin' contact with the other.

Didn't mean contact, I meant the decision. It Could of gone either way. From the ref angle it looked like dive. But it was a brave call to make. I would have kept my whistle in my hand.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 28, 2012, 11:44:51 AM
Lol @ torres soft drop. Referee angle looked like a dive. Look 50/50 to me.

   50/50 is when two players make equal attempts and get equal leverage or footing at a ball....not one man makin' contact with the other.

Didn't mean contact, I meant the decision. It Could of gone either way. From the ref angle it looked like dive. But it was a brave call to make. I would have kept my whistle in my hand.

I hear yuh, I kinda agree....I could see how he may have seen it as a dive if he didn't hear or see the contact.  Quite frankly, I don't think Torres helps himself in this league, either....I find he does go down a little easy and he have a quitter's heart.  This happen to be one time the contact made against him was of a hinderance to his progress but the ref didn't see it that way......the linesman shoulda see it though....
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 11:54:12 AM
Crazy game.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 02, 2012, 08:07:22 PM
 All the top sides show they can score, but each backline suspect. So ah think the winner of the league will be the side who's defense improves the most by the end of the season.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: lefty on November 02, 2012, 08:48:27 PM
All the top sides show they can score, but each backline suspect. So ah think the winner of the league will be the side who's defense improves the most by the end of the season.

1+ chelsea started good but leak some serious goals in dem lass three games manu eh backward either eh pay to much attention to city or arsenal doh so eh know but dem
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 03, 2012, 10:54:54 AM
EPL top teams have been shite this season! I would be very surprise if any progress far this year, including my beloved United.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Observer on November 03, 2012, 12:06:19 PM
EPL top teams have been shite this season! I would be very surprise if any progress far this year, including my beloved United.

Funny you say that. I just done talking to some people who expressed the same sentiments.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 03, 2012, 04:16:18 PM
EPL top teams have been shite this season! I would be very surprise if any progress far this year, including my beloved United.

Funny you say that. I just done talking to some people who expressed the same sentiments.

Funny you say that-I was there for that conversation! ;D
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on November 05, 2012, 03:58:45 PM
Kenwyne Jones, Theo Walcott, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gareth Bale, Alan Shearer... can anyone guess what these players all have in common?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: FF on November 05, 2012, 04:08:57 PM
Kenwyne Jones, Theo Walcott, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gareth Bale, Alan Shearer... can anyone guess what these players all have in common?

Southampton products
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on November 05, 2012, 08:31:35 PM
Kenwyne Jones, Theo Walcott, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gareth Bale, Alan Shearer... can anyone guess what these players all have in common?

Southampton products

 :beermug: Tell him what he's won, Johnny.


Watching that Soton v. WBA game today and I can't help but feel for them.  Adkins have them playing pretty (if somewhat direct) ball, and Lambert has proved me a liar as to his qualities... man just suffering for good service.  I also like their RB, Clyne... and winger, Lallana.  Their problem is in the back... they letting in far too many goals, and in just Game Week 9, Adkins on he 4th keeper already. 

All that to say that it would be nice if they could stay up (doesn't look like it) because they play attractive, positive football, and have a very good developmental and academy system... judging just from the talent they've produced over the years.  Would be nice for them to get a chance to grow into a nice PL squad with all the money that comes with it... rather than to have them drop again and have to sell current players (like Ramirez), and young players down the line.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 10, 2012, 10:33:15 AM
As much as I appreaciate Berbatov's talent. The way he is performing for Fulham, taking cool penalties and all; different than the player who played for United most of the time he was there. Except for that one season when he won the golden boot, he lacked the nerve to take his chances when they were presented to him. I can't remember how many times he fell down or flubbed his shot when you think he was going to score. He took real meek penalties and didn't fill the void when United need him to do so when Rooney was out. It seems like he couldn't handle the expectations of performing game in and game out as a United player. Now it appears that there is less pressure or expectations at Fulham and he back to being the Berbatov he was at Spurs.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 10, 2012, 11:05:57 AM
Fellaini is playing borse football this year! Scoring and settin up goals.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: elan on November 10, 2012, 11:08:08 AM
Arsenal is level toots, that fella Ramsey is horrible and where did the real Arteta go? Is it written in to players contract that when you sign for Arsenal you become a puss?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 10, 2012, 11:26:50 AM
Arsenal is level toots, that fella Ramsey is horrible and where did the real Arteta go? Is it written in to players contract that when you sign for Arsenal you become a puss?

Arteta has always been limited in his abilities and now he getting more exposed playing for Arsenal. Moyes did a nice piece of business selling him.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on November 10, 2012, 12:46:25 PM
Hernandez does walk that offside line like a boss dread. No margin for error
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on November 10, 2012, 12:50:35 PM
That Mexican dread, nice goals
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on November 10, 2012, 12:53:44 PM
Well Villa, if yuh trying to keep it narrow, at least be able to defend the crosses when they come in.  Looking vulnerable and flat-footed against the give-and-go, as they not tracking the runners.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on November 10, 2012, 01:15:07 PM
Hernandez! Like I said, he walks that line. Amazing
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on November 10, 2012, 01:16:35 PM
Absolutely poor defending from Villa.  So, yuh keeping it narrow and cyar even defend when the ball reach the middle. 
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on November 10, 2012, 01:24:04 PM
United!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 11, 2012, 08:33:31 AM
Spurs! Oh jah, could Kyle Walker be more useless? Can't pass or defend consistently to save his life.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 11, 2012, 09:05:00 AM
Wow! Zabaleta is such a faker! Nevermind- his nose busted up.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on November 11, 2012, 09:25:25 AM
f**k u city
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on November 11, 2012, 09:27:58 AM
Looks like that Man Utd spirit has caught on at the Etihad. Tottenham turned in a solid defensive performance, but City had enough quality up front to get the three points. Aguero's and Silva's ball control abilities are amazing and Edin Dzeko's substitution looks to have done the trick.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 11, 2012, 09:34:55 AM
Did Bale play?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on November 11, 2012, 09:39:07 AM
what happen to balotelli ?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 11, 2012, 09:52:26 AM
what happen to balotelli ?

He got drop
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on November 11, 2012, 10:41:01 AM
Eva has a nice ass.

Terry Out again with Injury
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on November 11, 2012, 10:41:24 AM
what happen to balotelli ?

He got drop

Hmmm he in the go house
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 17, 2012, 07:42:28 AM
This is why Adebayor doesn't get no consistent run! Can't be trusted to put the team first. Is not like yuh could miss his big ole size 16s making that tackle. It look like two boat paddles commin at Carzola.

Spurs was well takin it tuh Arsenal. Arsenal may be winnin but they lack any guts, and was not even in the game before that sending off, now dey can play dey nice football.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on November 17, 2012, 07:52:55 AM
By the way, how many goals has Gallas set up for the opposition this year? Either he playing them onside or the ball hitting him before it enter the goal.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on November 17, 2012, 10:52:50 AM
Chelsea loss
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: g on November 17, 2012, 11:05:45 AM
Massive Fantasy Points weekend, plenty big names amongst the goals
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Cocorite on November 17, 2012, 01:22:18 PM
Chelsea loss

United Loss
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on November 17, 2012, 01:24:06 PM
Uni
Chelsea loss

United Loss

Glory, Glory.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Observer on November 23, 2012, 07:17:27 AM
What is Man City's solution to the potential problem??? Buy another player of course! Now they after Zaha.
ManCity come like a Technical College, they making nuff man bench fitter.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2012, 09:54:25 AM
The ref in this Man City - Norwich game tiefin for Man United!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on December 29, 2012, 06:55:31 PM
EPl is shite this season!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on December 30, 2012, 07:28:43 PM
you have to love these characters eh...

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Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 02, 2013, 11:00:22 AM
Sissoko for Newcastle was very enjoyable to watch. Hope he keeps it up. Cisse was just weak. Terry and Cahil are slower than molasses and shows why Luis is valuable when paired with either.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 03, 2013, 12:43:35 PM
Watching the top six sides this year, I am not sure what type of side and style teams like Citeh, Chelski, Arsenal have or are trying tuh build. They seem to lack balance and depth, which appears to hinder their abilities to vary their tactics. Wasting money on players who either don't fit or who do not contribute to the team's success on a regualr basis.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 09, 2013, 10:04:14 AM
Tioti has to be the most dotish and undiscipline player in the EPL. Don't want him at United ever.
Along with Lee Cattermoe.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Observer on February 09, 2013, 11:00:36 AM
Arsenal show some bottle today, in a very physical game. Arguably Sagna best game of the season, and he did it as a central defender (which he played before in France). Cazzola was magnifique and if it were not for poor finishing from Cazzola, Diaby, Giroud and Walcott, it could have been a bigger score. Plenty of drama as, Wilshire got injured & Jenkinson got a red card. Sunderland started launching skuds and Matasaka & Sagna battle for everything in the air.

Still find Diaby and Ramsey give the ball away, way too often in crucial areas of the field.

Good match from two very contrasting styles
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 09, 2013, 11:09:02 AM
Arsenal show some bottle today, in a very physical game. Arguably Sagna best game of the season, and he did it as a central defender (which he played before in France). Cazzola was magnifique and if it were not for poor finishing from Cazzola, Diaby, Giroud and Walcott, it could have been a bigger score. Plenty of drama as, Wilshire got injured & Jenkinson got a red card. Sunderland started launching skuds and Matasaka & Sagna battle for everything in the air.

Still find Diaby and Ramsey give the ball away, way too often in crucial areas of the field.

Good match from two very contrasting styles

I didn't watch the game How did he get injured; was it self inflicted? 
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Observer on February 09, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
Arsenal show some bottle today, in a very physical game. Arguably Sagna best game of the season, and he did it as a central defender (which he played before in France). Cazzola was magnifique and if it were not for poor finishing from Cazzola, Diaby, Giroud and Walcott, it could have been a bigger score. Plenty of drama as, Wilshire got injured & Jenkinson got a red card. Sunderland started launching skuds and Matasaka & Sagna battle for everything in the air.

Still find Diaby and Ramsey give the ball away, way too often in crucial areas of the field.

Good match from two very contrasting styles

I didn't watch the game How did he get injured; was it self inflicted? 

Nah he get some hard jam & one in particular first half from Bramble, he was never comfortable after that, possible an accumulation.

 
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on February 09, 2013, 11:38:03 AM
come on southhampton !
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on February 09, 2013, 11:53:05 AM
Oh mi god Joe Hart. What a blunder 2 nil SH
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on February 09, 2013, 12:20:42 PM
City doh have it this year, and I cyah see Utd slipping up like it did last year. Also Mancini is not fit to tie Ferguson's shoes as far as managerial capabilities are concerned.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on February 09, 2013, 12:39:02 PM
Hahahah sweet own goal city. 3-1
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on February 09, 2013, 12:40:06 PM

Time for Fergie et al. to bring out the bubbly unless City can turn this around..
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on February 09, 2013, 12:41:21 PM
City has completely lost the plot.  I don't see Mancini retaining his job at the end of this season.  Shambolic.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on February 09, 2013, 01:27:12 PM
Yesssss!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Observer on February 09, 2013, 01:30:43 PM
I really felt for the sacked Southampton Manager. However, the game has to go on and this new Managers have them knocking some sweet ball. Dam! Which team cost a Billion again? Mancini made some questionable subs, but who am I to say so. Well done Saints.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on February 09, 2013, 02:30:37 PM
I really felt for the sacked Southampton Manager. However, the game has to go on and this new Managers have them knocking some sweet ball. Dam! Which team cost a Billion again? Mancini made some questionable subs, but who am I to say so. Well done Saints.

Nigel Adkins had them playing positive ball from the start... the defending was just questionable, and the goalkeeping atrocious.  They were shipping more than they were creating.  Fans were not at all happy with the sacking, but Pochettino getting results.  I was surprised to see that Boruc (who Arsenal fans might remember from the Eduardo diving controversy) is now their starting keeper.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 09, 2013, 03:46:50 PM
Citeh have to many passengers and dogs on that side-Nasir-driving that bus. Plus Silva, Yaya, Augero, Kompany. Hart, are all playing below the level they played last year. In addition, they didn't buy players who could contribute to them playing beyond the level the team played last year. They do rell shite after the season ended, instead of trying to build on their success last year. Balo no longer their to blamed.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 09, 2013, 03:48:03 PM
Arsenal show some bottle today, in a very physical game. Arguably Sagna best game of the season, and he did it as a central defender (which he played before in France). Cazzola was magnifique and if it were not for poor finishing from Cazzola, Diaby, Giroud and Walcott, it could have been a bigger score. Plenty of drama as, Wilshire got injured & Jenkinson got a red card. Sunderland started launching skuds and Matasaka & Sagna battle for everything in the air.

Still find Diaby and Ramsey give the ball away, way too often in crucial areas of the field.

Good match from two very contrasting styles

I didn't watch the game How did he get injured; was it self inflicted? 

Nah he get some hard jam & one in particular first half from Bramble, he was never comfortable after that, possible an accumulation.

 

He needs to learn how to defend himself and pick his spots, espcially since sides gunning for him now. I hope he stays healthy enough to fullfil his vast potential.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 09, 2013, 03:54:40 PM
That was not a rare mistake by Hart, like the annoucer called it, Hart has made a lot of errors this year. Want to see what the papers have tuh say about Englund's #1. Wonder if Citeh plan to replace him with Stoke's number 1?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Observer on February 09, 2013, 06:08:40 PM
I think Man Shitty suffering from far too much chopping and changing. Players like Nasri etc. are not at their best because they don't play (their own fault). Quite frankly as the old saying goes "be careful what you wish for." Yaya was feeling the pace and leaving him on played in SouthH hands.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on February 09, 2013, 06:31:14 PM
What happen to tevez? He was on the bench?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 09, 2013, 07:40:25 PM
What happen to tevez? He was on the bench?

Didnt make bench-dealing with family issues.
Title: Alex Ferguson talks Man City, Van Persie and Ronaldo
Post by: truetrini on February 09, 2013, 08:33:35 PM
Alex Ferguson talks Man City, Van Persie and Ronaldo

In a candid interview with Football Focus, Sir Alex Ferguson talks about Manchester United's £25m capture of Robin van Persie, the threat posed by Manchester City, and Wednesday's Champions League clash against a Real Madrid side inspired by former Old Trafford favourite Cristiano Ronaldo.

The Scot, who turned 71 on 31 December, also discusses retirement, mind games with managerial rival Jose Mourinho and some of the many myths that have grown around him over the years.
On Manchester City:

"They are a danger, there is no doubt about that. Whether it's the semi-finals of the FA Cup, the Charity Shield or challenging for the league, we are going to meet each other in big games now. For many years, we had Arsenal. For quite a few years, we had Chelsea. Now we've got City."
On signing Robin van Persie:

"I never thought we had a chance of getting Robin van Persie because I didn't think Arsenal would sell to us.

"My discussions with Arsene were good but long, probably a couple of months. They realised that the lad wanted to leave. It was a matter of negotiating a price with Arsene."
On Van Persie the player:

"His first season with us has been phenomenal and he has given everybody a lift, in terms of his knowledge of the game and his ability."
On the importance of attending training:

"I never miss a training session. My observation is the most important part now."

On loyalty in football:

"There are members of my staff who have been with me for 20 years or more. That creates a loyalty for both sides - from me to them and from them to me."
On the myths:

"There are a lot of myths surrounding people who are successful. The great one is I'm a former shipyard worker. I've never worked in a shipyard. My dad and my brothers and my uncles all worked there but not me. I was too intelligent.
"There are a lot of little things like that but there are too many things to worry about in our game. The industry is cut-throat."

On his use of mind games:

"That mind games thing is definitely overrated. It's a bit of a myth."
On Jose Mourinho:

"I think he plays games, too, and enjoys that part. He is brilliant at it. There is that mischievous part about him. You are never quite sure what he is up to. I don't go down that road and contest that because he is clever [and] I let him get on with it. As long as he keeps bringing me a decent bottle of wine, I'll let him off."

On Real Madrid:

"I watch Real Madrid every week. I watched them on Saturday night when they played Granada. I thought Ronaldo scored a great goal again, only it was for the other team..."
On Wednesday's game at the Bernabeu:

"I've got to make sure I pick the right team. That's the biggest challenge. We know their obvious strengths. The atmosphere will be absolutely fantastic. They don't lose many games at the Bernabeu."

On players becoming managers:

"There have been situations when a guy has been a player one day and then a manager the next. You tell me how that works? I read a lot of nonsense about fast-tracking players because they were internationals. Whether you have been an international or a non-league player, to be able to be successful in management, you have to have a long apprenticeship."


On retirement:

"This question comes up more and more simply because, as each year goes on, I get older. It's a fact of life. I can't avoid that. The issue is how I feel within myself.
"As you get older, you are not guaranteed your health. No-one is when you get into your 70s. Touch wood, my health remains for a long time yet. At the moment, everything is hunky dory, but you never know."
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 24, 2013, 07:42:54 AM
Gus, at it again. Chicharito and Giggs scored for United yesterday and Hazard is French! is like he just started watching anything that is not MLS! Go call some more MLS games Gus.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 24, 2013, 07:51:23 AM
Ah draw would be good. When did Ivanovic become such a liability in defense? He gettin beat like ah drum whether he playin rb or cb.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Fyzoman on February 24, 2013, 08:25:57 AM
“Over the past 20 years Gus has cemented himself as an iconic American sports broadcaster, and we’re thrilled to welcome his style to the world soccer stage,” said David Nathanson, Executive Vice President and General Manager of FOX Soccer. “Gus has spent the last year-and-a-half getting ready to call what is a new sport for him, and I applaud the work, study and time he’s devoted to his preparation. He respects how passionate and knowledgeable the soccer fan is, and while his education continues, he’s ready to lend his classic American voice to the world’s biggest sport.”

Since accepting this new challenge, Johnson has tapped several resources in his effort to learn as much as possible in such a short period of time. He called over a dozen MLS games on radio, mostly those of the San Jose Earthquakes; he has played pick-up soccer games in a park near his Manhattan home; spent several weeks in Europe last season attending games and conversing at length with Sky Sports executives and world-class football play-by-play announcer Martin Tyler. In Madrid, Johnson is partnering with FOX Soccer analyst Warren Barton, who in his playing days appeared in more than 300 Premier League matches. Barton, along with former players Eric Wynalda and Cobi Jones have aided Johnson tremendously in his soccer broadcasting education, collaborating with him on numerous practice telecasts under the tutelage of FOX Soccer Executive Producer Jonty Whitehead.

“No doubt that the followers of this sport are among the most passionate, knowledgeable fans in the world, and I’m a newcomer,” said Johnson. “The effort to learn the sport and absorb its nuance has been a humbling experience. While I’ve put a lot of time into my preparation thus far, it’s definitely going to take a lot of reps before I’ve mastered soccer’s rhythm and pace, but I am determined to do so, and with all the support I’m receiving I have no doubt that I will.”

Foxsoccer.com Feb 13, 2013
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 24, 2013, 08:31:26 AM
“Over the past 20 years Gus has cemented himself as an iconic American sports broadcaster, and we’re thrilled to welcome his style to the world soccer stage,” said David Nathanson, Executive Vice President and General Manager of FOX Soccer. “Gus has spent the last year-and-a-half getting ready to call what is a new sport for him, and I applaud the work, study and time he’s devoted to his preparation. He respects how passionate and knowledgeable the soccer fan is, and while his education continues, he’s ready to lend his classic American voice to the world’s biggest sport.”

Since accepting this new challenge, Johnson has tapped several resources in his effort to learn as much as possible in such a short period of time. He called over a dozen MLS games on radio, mostly those of the San Jose Earthquakes; he has played pick-up soccer games in a park near his Manhattan home; spent several weeks in Europe last season attending games and conversing at length with Sky Sports executives and world-class football play-by-play announcer Martin Tyler. In Madrid, Johnson is partnering with FOX Soccer analyst Warren Barton, who in his playing days appeared in more than 300 Premier League matches. Barton, along with former players Eric Wynalda and Cobi Jones have aided Johnson tremendously in his soccer broadcasting education, collaborating with him on numerous practice telecasts under the tutelage of FOX Soccer Executive Producer Jonty Whitehead.

“No doubt that the followers of this sport are among the most passionate, knowledgeable fans in the world, and I’m a newcomer,” said Johnson. “The effort to learn the sport and absorb its nuance has been a humbling experience. While I’ve put a lot of time into my preparation thus far, it’s definitely going to take a lot of reps before I’ve mastered soccer’s rhythm and pace, but I am determined to do so, and with all the support I’m receiving I have no doubt that I will.”

Foxsoccer.com Feb 13, 2013

Big forkin steueps! All dat and he still aint ready! He need tuh goh study some more. I guess he is catering to your American taste, since yuh highlighting American as much as you did.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on February 24, 2013, 08:51:37 AM
Stueps man Chelsea
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on February 24, 2013, 09:45:01 AM
Yaya Toure is such an important part of the Man City team. He is not easily pushed off the ball and has great vision. I was reminded of the important part he played in Man City's title run last year.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 24, 2013, 10:55:18 AM
Swansea easily beating Bradford 2-0 in the League cup final. Halftime. Swansea knocking the ball nice. How long will they able to hold on to Ladrup?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on February 24, 2013, 11:01:06 AM
Ladrup. I remember buying he had some Adidas boots when I was younger. Everybody wanted one
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Observer on February 24, 2013, 11:01:44 AM
Swansea easily beating Bradford 2-0 in the League cup final. Halftime. Swansea knocking the ball nice. How long will they able to hold on to Ladrup?

What Laudrup has done outside of the product on the field, is he has bought well. The mix of players are excellent and he deserves to get something for it. Good to see two teams outside the circle getting something
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Observer on February 24, 2013, 11:04:51 AM
Ladrup. I remember buying he had some Adidas boots when I was younger. Everybody wanted one


Adidas or Patrick???  Laudrup is one of the most under rated players of all time. Genius
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 24, 2013, 11:06:44 AM
3-0 Swans. Dyer beaut!!!!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 24, 2013, 11:20:48 AM
4- 0. Dyer dissing Deguzman for a penalty. He wants to take so he can get a hat trick. Deguzman adamant he should take it. And he scored. Dyer cussin' the man. I understand competitiveness. But he bordering on being unprofessional. Other than that Dyer is having a fantastic game.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 24, 2013, 11:28:20 AM
It's a shame when sides like Bradford play well enough to pull off upset after upset to get to the finals and then can't raise their game enough to finish the job. Great job by Swansea to win a trophy after changing managers and improving their play as a team under the new manager. Eat yuh heart out Arsenal and Arsene9! This is how you do it, play good football and get results.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 24, 2013, 11:31:26 AM
Swansea easily beating Bradford 2-0 in the League cup final. Halftime. Swansea knocking the ball nice. How long will they able to hold on to Ladrup?

Laudrap say he doesn't want to manage a big team because they to quick tuh fire managers. He doesn't want to invest a lot of time and effort into doing the job and just like that get fired. To be seen if his actions support those words.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 24, 2013, 11:50:58 AM
Swansea easily beating Bradford 2-0 in the League cup final. Halftime. Swansea knocking the ball nice. How long will they able to hold on to Ladrup?

Laudrap say he doesn't want to manage a big team because they to quick tuh fire managers. He doesn't want to invest a lot of time and effort into doing the job and just like that get fired. To be seen if his actions support those words.

You right about that. If Madrid or Barca come calling, the competitive nature in you will make it hard to refuse their call. Deguzman makes it 5 zip.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on February 24, 2013, 12:43:09 PM
“Over the past 20 years Gus has cemented himself as an iconic American sports broadcaster, and we’re thrilled to welcome his style to the world soccer stage,” said David Nathanson, Executive Vice President and General Manager of FOX Soccer. “Gus has spent the last year-and-a-half getting ready to call what is a new sport for him, and I applaud the work, study and time he’s devoted to his preparation. He respects how passionate and knowledgeable the soccer fan is, and while his education continues, he’s ready to lend his classic American voice to the world’s biggest sport.”

Since accepting this new challenge, Johnson has tapped several resources in his effort to learn as much as possible in such a short period of time. He called over a dozen MLS games on radio, mostly those of the San Jose Earthquakes; he has played pick-up soccer games in a park near his Manhattan home; spent several weeks in Europe last season attending games and conversing at length with Sky Sports executives and world-class football play-by-play announcer Martin Tyler. In Madrid, Johnson is partnering with FOX Soccer analyst Warren Barton, who in his playing days appeared in more than 300 Premier League matches. Barton, along with former players Eric Wynalda and Cobi Jones have aided Johnson tremendously in his soccer broadcasting education, collaborating with him on numerous practice telecasts under the tutelage of FOX Soccer Executive Producer Jonty Whitehead.

“No doubt that the followers of this sport are among the most passionate, knowledgeable fans in the world, and I’m a newcomer,” said Johnson. “The effort to learn the sport and absorb its nuance has been a humbling experience. While I’ve put a lot of time into my preparation thus far, it’s definitely going to take a lot of reps before I’ve mastered soccer’s rhythm and pace, but I am determined to do so, and with all the support I’m receiving I have no doubt that I will.”

Foxsoccer.com Feb 13, 2013

He did immediately correct himself to say that Hazard was in fact Belgian.  If was Shaka woulda be "hard luck dey Shaka... little slip ah de tongue dey, but yuh getting better."

...

Anyways... terrific display of football today by City, Yaya Toure is world class.  He has a deceptively languid way of playing but his vision is unbelievable.  Early in the first half he hit Aguero with a perfectly weighted diagonal ball from the right side of midfield, a good 40-45 meters across, not only switching play, but putting Aguero in position in on goal behind the Chelsea line.  Aguero was ah absolute waste not only on that play (tried to round Cech but ran the ball out of bounds instead), but every time he got in the box he was looking to do too much...either dribbling or passing, rather than shooting as he did last season.

Clichy and Zabaleta also had terrific games and Hart did very well when called upon.  Ba went down under minimal (if any) contact, but Hart proved more than up for Lampard's penalty.  Any other outcome would have been harsh.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on February 24, 2013, 12:45:41 PM
4- 0. Dyer dissing Deguzman for a penalty. He wants to take so he can get a hat trick. Deguzman adamant he should take it. And he scored. Dyer cussin' the man. I understand competitiveness. But he bordering on being unprofessional. Other than that Dyer is having a fantastic game.

DeGuzman should defer to him on that... Dyer nearly single-handedly carry Swans midfield last season, so on seniority alone he should defer.  A hat trick is relatively rare... especially for a midfielder like Dyer, DeGuzman coulda let him take it to no ill effect.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Fyzoman on February 24, 2013, 03:55:43 PM
“Over the past 20 years Gus has cemented himself as an iconic American sports broadcaster, and we’re thrilled to welcome his style to the world soccer stage,” said David Nathanson, Executive Vice President and General Manager of FOX Soccer. “Gus has spent the last year-and-a-half getting ready to call what is a new sport for him, and I applaud the work, study and time he’s devoted to his preparation. He respects how passionate and knowledgeable the soccer fan is, and while his education continues, he’s ready to lend his classic American voice to the world’s biggest sport.”

Since accepting this new challenge, Johnson has tapped several resources in his effort to learn as much as possible in such a short period of time. He called over a dozen MLS games on radio, mostly those of the San Jose Earthquakes; he has played pick-up soccer games in a park near his Manhattan home; spent several weeks in Europe last season attending games and conversing at length with Sky Sports executives and world-class football play-by-play announcer Martin Tyler. In Madrid, Johnson is partnering with FOX Soccer analyst Warren Barton, who in his playing days appeared in more than 300 Premier League matches. Barton, along with former players Eric Wynalda and Cobi Jones have aided Johnson tremendously in his soccer broadcasting education, collaborating with him on numerous practice telecasts under the tutelage of FOX Soccer Executive Producer Jonty Whitehead.

“No doubt that the followers of this sport are among the most passionate, knowledgeable fans in the world, and I’m a newcomer,” said Johnson. “The effort to learn the sport and absorb its nuance has been a humbling experience. While I’ve put a lot of time into my preparation thus far, it’s definitely going to take a lot of reps before I’ve mastered soccer’s rhythm and pace, but I am determined to do so, and with all the support I’m receiving I have no doubt that I will.”

Foxsoccer.com Feb 13, 2013

Big forkin steueps! All dat and he still aint ready! He need tuh goh study some more. I guess he is catering to your American taste, since yuh highlighting American as much as you did.

Doh worry I make my point...go MANU!!!!!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on February 24, 2013, 04:14:29 PM
“Over the past 20 years Gus has cemented himself as an iconic American sports broadcaster, and we’re thrilled to welcome his style to the world soccer stage,” said David Nathanson, Executive Vice President and General Manager of FOX Soccer. “Gus has spent the last year-and-a-half getting ready to call what is a new sport for him, and I applaud the work, study and time he’s devoted to his preparation. He respects how passionate and knowledgeable the soccer fan is, and while his education continues, he’s ready to lend his classic American voice to the world’s biggest sport.”

Since accepting this new challenge, Johnson has tapped several resources in his effort to learn as much as possible in such a short period of time. He called over a dozen MLS games on radio, mostly those of the San Jose Earthquakes; he has played pick-up soccer games in a park near his Manhattan home; spent several weeks in Europe last season attending games and conversing at length with Sky Sports executives and world-class football play-by-play announcer Martin Tyler. In Madrid, Johnson is partnering with FOX Soccer analyst Warren Barton, who in his playing days appeared in more than 300 Premier League matches. Barton, along with former players Eric Wynalda and Cobi Jones have aided Johnson tremendously in his soccer broadcasting education, collaborating with him on numerous practice telecasts under the tutelage of FOX Soccer Executive Producer Jonty Whitehead.

“No doubt that the followers of this sport are among the most passionate, knowledgeable fans in the world, and I’m a newcomer,” said Johnson. “The effort to learn the sport and absorb its nuance has been a humbling experience. While I’ve put a lot of time into my preparation thus far, it’s definitely going to take a lot of reps before I’ve mastered soccer’s rhythm and pace, but I am determined to do so, and with all the support I’m receiving I have no doubt that I will.”

Foxsoccer.com Feb 13, 2013

Big forkin steueps! All dat and he still aint ready! He need tuh goh study some more. I guess he is catering to your American taste, since yuh highlighting American as much as you did.

Doh worry I make my point...go MANU!!!!!

That you are captain America junior and clueless? Then you succeded. :applause:

PS: When yuh write yuh fan letter tuh Gus-ask him why he miss so many calls when he calling these matches, is the game moving to fast fuh him? Or he just lorse fuh words? And if he realize that as a commentator, he need tuh actually describe the play as it playing out instead of trailing off. Oh and please remind him that the majority if his audience not deaf!  ;)
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Cocorite on February 24, 2013, 05:32:45 PM
How that Man City keeper, Joe Hart, save dat Lampard Penalty boy? I still trying tuh figure dat out, oui!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Fyzoman on February 24, 2013, 06:30:02 PM
“Over the past 20 years Gus has cemented himself as an iconic American sports broadcaster, and we’re thrilled to welcome his style to the world soccer stage,” said David Nathanson, Executive Vice President and General Manager of FOX Soccer. “Gus has spent the last year-and-a-half getting ready to call what is a new sport for him, and I applaud the work, study and time he’s devoted to his preparation. He respects how passionate and knowledgeable the soccer fan is, and while his education continues, he’s ready to lend his classic American voice to the world’s biggest sport.”

Since accepting this new challenge, Johnson has tapped several resources in his effort to learn as much as possible in such a short period of time. He called over a dozen MLS games on radio, mostly those of the San Jose Earthquakes; he has played pick-up soccer games in a park near his Manhattan home; spent several weeks in Europe last season attending games and conversing at length with Sky Sports executives and world-class football play-by-play announcer Martin Tyler. In Madrid, Johnson is partnering with FOX Soccer analyst Warren Barton, who in his playing days appeared in more than 300 Premier League matches. Barton, along with former players Eric Wynalda and Cobi Jones have aided Johnson tremendously in his soccer broadcasting education, collaborating with him on numerous practice telecasts under the tutelage of FOX Soccer Executive Producer Jonty Whitehead.

“No doubt that the followers of this sport are among the most passionate, knowledgeable fans in the world, and I’m a newcomer,” said Johnson. “The effort to learn the sport and absorb its nuance has been a humbling experience. While I’ve put a lot of time into my preparation thus far, it’s definitely going to take a lot of reps before I’ve mastered soccer’s rhythm and pace, but I am determined to do so, and with all the support I’m receiving I have no doubt that I will.”

Foxsoccer.com Feb 13, 2013

Big forkin steueps! All dat and he still aint ready! He need tuh goh study some more. I guess he is catering to your American taste, since yuh highlighting American as much as you did.

Doh worry I make my point...go MANU!!!!!

That you are captain America junior and clueless? Then you succeded. :applause:

PS: When yuh write yuh fan letter tuh Gus-ask him why he miss so many calls when he calling these matches, is the game moving to fast fuh him? Or he just lorse fuh words? And if he realize that as a commentator, he need tuh actually describe the play as it playing out instead of trailing off. Oh and please remind him that the majority if his audience not deaf!  ;)
Thats Captain America Senior thank you very much, and take win girl, whatever you say ok?

I will write Gus and tell him not to do all things you said he did, ok baby;) Go Manu;)
Title: Will QPR survive the drop??
Post by: rotatopoti3 on March 03, 2013, 01:08:47 AM
Can QPR pull of THE GREAT ESCAPE??

20 points and still 4 points adrift off relegation  .... with 10 games to GO!


QPR v Sunderland    Sat 9 Mar       

Aston Villa v QPR    Sat 16 Mar       

Fulham v QPR    Mon 1 Apr      

QPR v Wigan    Sun 7 Apr   

Everton v QPR    Sat 13 Apr   

QPR v Stoke    Sat 20 Apr   
   
Reading v QPR    Sun 28 Apr       
   
QPR v Arsenal    Sat 4 May   
   
QPR v Newcastle    Sun 12 May   

Liverpool v QPR    Sun 19 May       

Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: sammy on March 03, 2013, 10:36:55 AM
poor football on display with Ars - Tot
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 03, 2013, 10:37:48 AM
QPR should go down just fuh giving men like Hughes and Arry a blank cheque book!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 03, 2013, 10:39:03 AM
Can the annoucers give the teammate some credit for threading that pass tuh Bale? Damn boy! Arsenal will never win a trophy until the learn how tuh defend properly.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on March 03, 2013, 10:40:45 AM
Tottenham boy. Dread knock. Arsenal get caught twice with the same behind the back pass.
Title: Re: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on March 03, 2013, 10:41:27 AM
Can the annoucers give the teammate some credit for threading that pass tuh Bale? Damn boy! Arsenal will never win a trophy until the learn how tuh defend properly.


Nice weighted pass. Good angle too
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 03, 2013, 10:42:55 AM
Deserved lead for Tottenham. Arsenal for all its good midfield play has been let down in the final third.
Tottenham has been more clinical.

However, given the recent history of this fixture, this match is far from over.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 03, 2013, 10:46:28 AM
Tottenham boy. Dread knock. Arsenal get caught twice with the same behind the back pass.

They lack lateral movement, as well as quickness. In fact Arsenal as team is very slow.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 03, 2013, 10:50:22 AM
Ah boy, ah see the Fox Soccer invited lifelong Arsenal fan, Piers Morgan to the party. He does seem knowledgeable, so I will give him a chance.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Observer on March 03, 2013, 11:01:11 AM
Tottenham boy. Dread knock. Arsenal get caught twice with the same behind the back pass.

They lack lateral movement, as well as quickness. In fact Arsenal as team is very slow.

dam slow CBs and CMF. I love the fact that Arsenal gurantee attacking football, home or away. But oh shit man, sit take an take a break and then come again. Is like they just want the game to be wiide open, end to end, lets go!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 03, 2013, 11:11:15 AM
Tottenham boy. Dread knock. Arsenal get caught twice with the same behind the back pass.

They lack lateral movement, as well as quickness. In fact Arsenal as team is very slow.

dam slow CBs and CMF. I love the fact that Arsenal gurantee attacking football, home or away. But oh shit man, sit take an take a break and then come again. Is like they just want the game to be wiide open, end to end, lets go!


Wenger's doing. No way Ateta shoud part of your starting 11 game in and game out. He his not an athletic enough tuh cover dey slow arse defense.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 03, 2013, 11:22:48 AM
Ah woulda keep playing! Shite commit ah foul if yuh want play tuh stop. ade is a faker!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on March 03, 2013, 11:55:48 AM
So where is Chelsea in the table?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 03, 2013, 11:58:51 AM
Piers Morgan is an ass.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 03, 2013, 12:12:22 PM
It seems like the only teams with a chance at CL football, who have plan for how dey want tuh build dey side, and buy players that work short term and long term are United, Liverpool, Spurs. Citeh going backwards, Arsenal seem stuck in mediocrity, Chelski continuing tuh buy talent for midfield while leaving the cupboard bare everywhere else.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 03, 2013, 12:12:53 PM
So where is Chelsea in the table?

4th behind Spurs.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on March 04, 2013, 07:04:47 PM
Fulham does the harlem shake. Embed for me please

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irXLQtXEHts&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 10, 2013, 09:48:16 AM
This is not an EPL comment, but I not creating a new thread.

This Millwall - Blackburn game reminds me why I never used to watch "Road to Wembley" long time.
This game is terrible. I've seen more entertaining football in Bourg Mulatresse on a Sunday evening.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 10, 2013, 10:14:54 AM
Damn, I should have gotten Fox Soccer Plus. Any reliable streams for the Liverpool-Tottenham game?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 10, 2013, 11:41:49 AM
This Liverpool - Spurs game have all the action.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 10, 2013, 11:43:28 AM
This Liverpool - Spurs game have all the action.

I hadda be on a conference call anyway, steups.

Dem work ppl acting up!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 10, 2013, 11:48:33 AM
Beautiful goal by Hazard there.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 10, 2013, 11:55:47 AM
Caught the last few minutes of Liverpool-Tottenham. This is an excellent result for the reds and it is a bright spot in a season filled with difficult losses and squandered opportunities, (Losing leads vs Man City twice and Arsenal).

Nice result.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 10, 2013, 11:56:36 AM
Is Shaka commentating in the Utd/Chelsea game?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 10, 2013, 11:57:39 AM
Bim, bam

My day is starting to get better.

Come on Chelsea!

 ;D
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 10, 2013, 11:57:49 AM
 :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 10, 2013, 11:58:54 AM
Is Shaka commentating in the Utd/Chelsea game?

It's Ian Wright
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 10, 2013, 12:00:06 PM
Is Shaka commentating in the Utd/Chelsea game?

It's Ian Wright

Thanks; I thought it was Shaka until I heard the pronunciation of certain words
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 10, 2013, 12:15:34 PM
Wright sounding like he really want to be in a rumshop shouting at the tv.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 10, 2013, 12:18:09 PM
Is Shaka commentating in the Utd/Chelsea game?

It's Ian Wright

Thanks; I thought it was Shaka until I heard the pronunciation of certain words

Shaka doh talk wit no British in he accent......
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 10, 2013, 12:20:20 PM
De Gea earning his keep.

Brilliant save!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 10, 2013, 12:21:08 PM
Is Shaka commentating in the Utd/Chelsea game?

It's Ian Wright

Thanks; I thought it was Shaka until I heard the pronunciation of certain words

Shaka doh talk wit no British in he accent......

He also doesn't say things like "He done the right thing"
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 10, 2013, 12:21:26 PM
Is Shaka commentating in the Utd/Chelsea game?

It's Ian Wright

Thanks; I thought it was Shaka until I heard the pronunciation of certain words

Shaka doh talk wit no British in he accent......

He doesn't. But the beginning of sentences sound somewhat similar. Of course, the end of sentences is something different
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 10, 2013, 12:21:30 PM
De Gea earning his keep.

Brilliant save!

Ent!

I was already jumping out my seat.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 10, 2013, 12:22:30 PM
Wright sounding like he really want to be in a rumshop shouting at the tv.

  Gus Johnson sound like he actually IN a rumshop....he need to smoke a joint before he do these games....
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 10, 2013, 12:24:29 PM
No Fergie time?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 10, 2013, 12:24:51 PM
Utd need to give De Gea ah nice bonus there, cause Utd's arse was dead in the water, oui.

Lucky, lucky Utd
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 10, 2013, 12:34:19 PM
Wright sounding like he really want to be in a rumshop shouting at the tv.

  Gus Johnson sound like he actually IN a rumshop....he need to smoke a joint before he do these games....
The forker callin basketball, hockey, NFL, baseball-anything but football when he commentating. Like he doh nothing about the sport he actually callin.
Title: Which 3 teams staying up in d EPL?
Post by: rotatopoti3 on March 16, 2013, 03:58:13 AM
My picks

Southampton
Wigan
QPR
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on March 16, 2013, 06:31:02 AM
Everton vs City should be interesting.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on March 16, 2013, 07:18:55 AM
Who see that Everton goal.? My god.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 16, 2013, 07:19:27 AM
Osman-Not ah man move!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 16, 2013, 07:20:01 AM
Who see that Everton goal.? My god.

Should ah been 2nil.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on March 16, 2013, 08:37:44 AM
Everton is a real heavy hitter boy. Respect.

Bye Bye City thanks for the trophy.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on March 16, 2013, 08:40:55 AM
We would have to lose 5 games out of the 9 left for City to come back.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on March 16, 2013, 08:41:57 AM
Everton is the last side yuh want tuh play this time of the season when yuh need points! when dey on dey are enjoyable tuh watch, except if dey playing against yuh side.

The goalie was outstanding :applause: Timmy back tuh the MLS!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on March 17, 2013, 08:30:37 AM
Norwich getting raped by the officials up at the Stadium of Light.  Sunderland is utter shit.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on March 17, 2013, 09:06:44 AM
...and the robbery continues.  30' minute... goalie comes out and blocks the ball with his torso, his arms were up and the ball may have nestled into his arm pit.  Ref rules hand ball and straight red, Norwich down to 10 men.  Ten mins later Bassong chests a ball in the area... it may have then rolled onto his left bicep... may have.  Didn't seem like it did.  Penalty for Sunderland.  Fast forward to the 70' and Danny Rose clearly (though inadvertently) handles inside the box on the defensive left side.  It was near the edge of the box, but inside.  Ref bizarrely rules free kick outside the box.  Not one of Chris Foy's better days.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 17, 2013, 03:31:05 PM
.....anybody see the tackle that a Wigan player ress on a Newcastle man today.....and only get away with a yellow card?! Really?!  I always say, for what the English league purports itself to be (the best league in the world...allegedly) relatively, the officiating has to be among the worst in Europe......I eh go even get into the penalty that vidic was supposed to have conceded when he CLEARLY sove a man to the ground in the 18 yesterday.  SMDH.....
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on March 17, 2013, 04:33:45 PM
.....anybody see the tackle that a Wigan player ress on a Newcastle man today.....and only get away with a yellow card?! Really?!  I always say, for what the English league purports itself to be (the best league in the world...allegedly) relatively, the officiating has to be among the worst in Europe
He didn't get a yellow card. A Newcastle player run across the ref line of sight, so he didn't even see it. So the fact that no call was made leaves it open for the FA to review it and issue a retrospective ban.

Was watching that game. It wasn't intentional. Just a over-excited youthman in his first ever Prem game going for the ball like a wildman.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 17, 2013, 04:50:46 PM
.....anybody see the tackle that a Wigan player ress on a Newcastle man today.....and only get away with a yellow card?! Really?!  I always say, for what the English league purports itself to be (the best league in the world...allegedly) relatively, the officiating has to be among the worst in Europe
He didn't get a yellow card. A Newcastle player run across the ref line of sight, so he didn't even see it. So the fact that no call was made leaves it open for the FA to review it and issue a retrospective ban.

Was watching that game. It wasn't intentional. Just a over-excited youthman in his first ever Prem game going for the ball like a wildman.

  OK, I thought he had gotten a yellow for it....needless to say, I expect a serious ban....but I would argue that, even though "intent" is not a criteria for receiving a red card, this young man had to know going in that executing a tackle like that could seriously hurt a man even to the point of ending a career.  Excitement or not.  I also have a problem with this bad officiating where we only seem to blame the referee with these incidents.  So the referee, both linesmen and (realistically) the fourth official ALL missed that tackle (yet again)?!  WTF do these people be watching?!  ???
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Observer on March 17, 2013, 05:47:49 PM
...and the robbery continues.  30' minute... goalie comes out and blocks the ball with his torso, his arms were up and the ball may have nestled into his arm pit.  Ref rules hand ball and straight red, Norwich down to 10 men.  Ten mins later Bassong chests a ball in the area... it may have then rolled onto his left bicep... may have.  Didn't seem like it did.  Penalty for Sunderland.  Fast forward to the 70' and Danny Rose clearly (though inadvertently) handles inside the box on the defensive left side.  It was near the edge of the box, but inside.  Ref bizarrely rules free kick outside the box.  Not one of Chris Foy's better days.

bakes that was hard for anyone to see in real time. My first thought was hand ball & slow motion indicates that the ball did make contact under his arm. The second one on Bassong was harsh.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on March 17, 2013, 07:19:09 PM
bakes that was hard for anyone to see in real time. My first thought was hand ball & slow motion indicates that the ball did make contact under his arm. The second one on Bassong was harsh.

Bunn come out like a jackass... more worried about contact than handball so he kinda brought it on himself. That said, Foy was right there and was so sure that he never even check with the linesman.  Needless to say he got it wrong.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 14, 2013, 08:26:48 AM
Stoke even trying to score?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 14, 2013, 09:12:30 AM
shit team jones aint play any better
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 21, 2013, 08:15:59 AM
3 goals in 6 minutes.
Man U will clinch tomorrow. Serious drama for 4th now.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 21, 2013, 10:14:54 AM
Suarez is a born cheater who also likes the taste of human meat! Ah wonder if he was premature?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 21, 2013, 10:32:16 AM
Suarez is a born cheater! Ah wonder if he was premature?

I missed it what did he do?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 21, 2013, 10:34:44 AM
Suarez is a born cheater! Ah wonder if he was premature?

I missed it what did he do?

He reached up an flicked a the ball away from Torres using his hand on a corner, to give Chelsea a penalty and then bite Ivanovic on his arm while they were fighting for a ball.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 21, 2013, 10:35:31 AM
Red card?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 21, 2013, 10:37:10 AM
People need tuh start getting rabies shots before they play against  Suarez! Buckteeth savage!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 28, 2013, 09:10:55 AM
I was looking forward to a feisty relegation battle this morning, instead we get a relegation fete match.
Two terrible sides playing terrible football. Both get relegated. Good riddance.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 28, 2013, 09:41:22 AM
Arsenal keeper gets a ball in his face falls to the ground.

Commentator - " That's not a reason to drop to the floor" WTF?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 28, 2013, 09:44:46 AM
WTF Sagna?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2013, 10:03:40 AM
I was looking forward to a feisty relegation battle this morning, instead we get a relegation fete match.
Two terrible sides playing terrible football. Both get relegated. Good riddance.

Stoke need tuh follow dem too. It would be a shame if a side like Wigan who tries tuh play football and a boom kick side, full of unskilled labourers like Stoke stay up! Shite side!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: elan on April 28, 2013, 11:42:27 AM
That  Arsenal vs Man United game 2nd half was terrible.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on April 28, 2013, 07:14:42 PM
Strange vote by the player reps... Van Persie was more deserving, even if they didn't want to give it to Suarez.  Strange headline too, to say that he bet Van Persie for the award when Suarez finished second in the voting...


Sunday, April 28, 2013

Bale beats van Persie to PFA award

Associated Press

(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0428/soc_a_bale_200.jpg)

Still to win any trophies with Tottenham, Gareth Bale collected the top two awards in English football on Sunday to cement his status as one of the sport's most talented players.

Gareth Bale became the first player to win both of the PFA's main awards since then-Man United star Cristiano Ronaldo in 2007. (AP Photo)

The Wales forward was voted player of the year and the young player of the year by his fellow professionals in English football.


"It's a massive honor," said Bale, who was also voted player of the year in 2011. "To be voted by your peers is one of the biggest things in the game. It's great to win it and I am delighted."

The 23-year-old Bale beat off competition from Luis Suarez, Robin van Persie, Juan Mata, Eden Hazard and Michael Carrick to win the main Professional Footballers' Association award.

Only two other players have done the PFA double: former Aston Villa striker Andy Gray in 1977 and Cristiano Ronaldo in 2007 when he was with Manchester United.

Bale's ability to bamboozle defenses and score from set-pieces has led to inevitable comparisons with Ronaldo, who is now starring for Real Madrid.

"Both are extremely technical, powerful and pacey," Tottenham manager Andre Villas-Boas said. "They grew up as strikers but became wingers. Gareth is now playing a more advanced role. Ronaldo is also able to play that role up front."


Bale's scintillating displays have produced 24 goals and been crucial to Tottenham sitting fifth in the Premier League to remain in the hunt for the four Champions League places in the closing weeks of the season.

Bale's career has witnessed a remarkable turnaround since he joined Tottenham at 17 in 2007 for 5 million pounds (then $8 million) and endured a frustrating start.

A series of injuries stymied his progress and he played 24 league games across two years before finally featuring on a winning side.

Harry Redknapp, who was then in charge of Tottenham, pushed Bale forward onto the left wing, allowing him to attack without having to think so much about the defensive aspect of his game.

Bale has kept his searing pace despite developing a more robust physique that allows him to shrug off opponents, while often now playing in a more central attacking position.

"I have been shooting a lot more and I have been coming inside a lot more, too," he said at the awards' ceremony in London. "I have a few less assists this year, but I am in more scoring positions these days and that has obviously helped my scoring tally."

Bale was also selected in the Premier League team of the year along with Liverpool striker Luis Suarez, who is currently serving a 10-game ban for biting an opponent. The voting took place before Suarez sank his teeth into Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanovic last Sunday, and his name was booed when it was read out at the ceremony.

In the team of the year, Manchester United's David De Gea was picked as goalkeeper, while the defenders are Pablo Zabaleta (Manchester City), Jan Vertonghen (Tottenham), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United) and Leighton Baines (Everton).

Chelsea duo Juan Mata and Eden Hazard, Manchester United's Michael Carrick are in midfield, while Manchester United striker Robin van Persie also features with Bale and Suarez.

PFA chief executive Gordon Taylor wishes Suarez followed the lead of Bale and Van Persie in setting a better example to youngsters. "Everyone knows Suarez is a great footballer. I just wish at times he could fall into line because footballers are role models and Gareth and Robin van Persie are really good examples for the younger generation," Taylor said.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1429263/spurs-bale-wins-2nd-pfa-player-year-award?cc=5901
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 07, 2013, 01:58:38 PM
Wigan like a tough weed, yuh can't kill them.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 07, 2013, 02:01:27 PM
Wigan like a tough weed, yuh can't kill them.

Swansea trying hard though.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: FF on May 07, 2013, 02:21:17 PM
Like yuh blighting dem boy Bitter
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 07, 2013, 02:42:14 PM
Like yuh blighting dem boy Bitter

Ent! They should have gone up by 2. That fella mess he pants on that one.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 08, 2013, 02:42:19 PM
Arsene Wenger cracks a smile...
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 11, 2013, 06:33:06 AM
Is about time Ramirez geh send off! Dise fuh all the break foot tackles he getts away with.  ;D
Shush Elan and Chow!  ;D Benteke is ah beast.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 11, 2013, 07:00:28 AM
Benteke has been said (statistically supported) to be the most useful player to his team across the EPL.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 11, 2013, 07:02:12 AM
Benteke has been said (statistically supported) to be the most useful player to his team across the EPL.

Will no longer be useful cause he just got red. Shite now ey give Chelski a life line!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Blue on May 11, 2013, 07:05:37 AM
Frank Lampard - Chelsea's all time leading scorer  :beermug:
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 11, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
It good fuh mancini ass. He gone!!  ;D





It good fuh joe hart, too!  :D
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 11, 2013, 12:11:46 PM
Yes Wigan-nothing fuh Citeh!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: MEP on May 11, 2013, 12:17:50 PM
well done Mr. Lawrence.....ah hope allyuh stay up now.....he go be de second best coach from TnT now..
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 11, 2013, 12:22:33 PM
Martinez gone: relegation or not.  Everton coming in for him.  Mancini could be gone too, although not by choice.  Pellegrini or Rafa is the rumor.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 11, 2013, 12:28:19 PM
Somebody need tuh tell Gus the match over when the ref blow the whistle 3 times! The man space out oui and aint even know match done!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: triniairman on May 11, 2013, 12:50:48 PM
Does winning the FA cup puts Wigan in the Europa cup?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on May 11, 2013, 01:22:48 PM
Martinez gone: relegation or not.  Everton coming in for him.  Mancini could be gone too, although not by choice.  Pellegrini or Rafa is the rumor.

Imagine what Martinez could do with the resources of a Man. City?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 11, 2013, 01:38:42 PM
Ah don't think Man City would take that kind of risk with Martinez.  They basically going after big names, hoping that big name players will follow.  Right now, they willing to buy their way to top.  Martinez would be a good fit for Everton, as they have a patient chairman.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on May 11, 2013, 01:51:21 PM
City cah even buy a cup. Trophy less c**ts.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on May 11, 2013, 02:03:54 PM
Ah don't think Man City would take that kind of risk with Martinez.  They basically going after big names, hoping that big name players will follow.  Right now, they willing to buy their way to top.  Martinez would be a good fit for Everton, as they have a patient chairman.

Pellegrini name ent dat much bigger... yet they throwing dey panty at him.  Fans supporting Mancini still doh... says a lot.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 11, 2013, 02:44:30 PM
Remember, Pellegrini was at Real...didn't really get a fair shot there, as he was fired after 1 season, finishing second to Barca.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Peong on May 11, 2013, 03:03:21 PM
More significantly Pellegrini was the one who raised Villareal to all kinda unprecedented heights a few years back.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: sammy on May 11, 2013, 03:41:28 PM
Frank Lampard - Chelsea's all time leading scorer  :beermug:



  Who cares?!  ::)   LMAO!!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on May 11, 2013, 03:54:41 PM
 :beermug:
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 11, 2013, 03:55:31 PM
Frank Lampard - Chelsea's all time leading scorer  :beermug:



  Who cares?!  ::)   LMAO!!

 :rotfl: :beermug:
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Reaper2004 on May 11, 2013, 04:08:52 PM
Frank Lampard - Chelsea's all time leading scorer  :beermug:



  Who cares?!  ::)   LMAO!!

Post of the day!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 11, 2013, 04:14:15 PM
Frank Lampard - Chelsea's all time leading scorer  :beermug:



  Who cares?!  ::)   LMAO!!

   Wha yuh showin' ME dat for?!  ??? Show Ryan dat, not me.   What de mudder c**t is dis, dem bitches feel I is Ryan ah wha?! LMAO!!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on May 11, 2013, 05:23:55 PM
Hush yuh mouth. And take it.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 11, 2013, 06:02:49 PM
Hush yuh mouth. And take it.

    Allyuh lucky it eh have no middle finger smiley on dis forum oui! Hyere, ah hope this suffice:  :loser:























 ;D
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on May 12, 2013, 09:10:24 AM
Man City are poised to sack Roberto Mancini & replace him with Malaga's Manuel Pellegrini, reports @philmcnulty http://bbc.in/ZSavmI 
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 12, 2013, 09:12:53 AM
Man City are poised to sack Roberto Mancini & replace him with Malaga's Manuel Pellegrini, reports @philmcnulty http://bbc.in/ZSavmI 

   Yuh tink Balo feelin' a how fuh him?  :D
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bourbon on May 12, 2013, 10:39:43 AM
Man City are poised to sack Roberto Mancini & replace him with Malaga's Manuel Pellegrini, reports @philmcnulty http://bbc.in/ZSavmI 

Good move doh.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Fyzoman on May 12, 2013, 08:38:49 PM
Sorry for de small hijack...just saw this, my goodness...the beautiful game at it's best!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/JgUevnYJOvI
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on May 12, 2013, 08:55:16 PM
Hard loss to swallow. Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: FF on May 14, 2013, 01:53:34 PM
Wigan has equalized against Arsenal and have them on the ropes early in the second half.

Can the Never Ending Great Escape keep going?
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: FF on May 14, 2013, 02:07:59 PM
Arsenal up 2-1

Welp.... 3-1 not too long after... Wigan going down as FA Cup champions.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: grimm01 on May 14, 2013, 02:19:31 PM
Arsenal up 2-1

Welp.... 3-1 not too long after... Wigan going down as FA Cup champions.


4-1
I like Wigan and Roberto but the longest rope have an end. For the life of me I can't understand how these fellas can't put in this kind of effort more consistently during the campaign (same for Arsenal). The Swansea game was de last papercut.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 14, 2013, 02:42:28 PM
For the life of me I can't understand how these fellas can't put in this kind of effort more consistently during the campaign.
They've been having injury problems and their squad ain't deep with talent.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 14, 2013, 03:16:14 PM
Hard luck dey Wigan.
at least you could drink now.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 14, 2013, 04:07:49 PM
For the life of me I can't understand how these fellas can't put in this kind of effort more consistently during the campaign.
They've been having injury problems and their squad ain't deep with talent.

Emmerson Boyce is the first name that comes to mind.

Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Banter Banton on May 14, 2013, 04:50:53 PM
also the 3-5-2 formation didnt really help them especially with men like Boyce etc.. Luckily for them City dont use width and couldnt exploit their gaps

United used a 4-2-4 against them twice this season and beat them 4-0 twice.. adjusted the tactics after losing away 1-0 in 2012 when the 3-5-2 beat us tactically.. 

Gutted for their chairman Whelan.. genuine nice guy.. Martinez could do no more with that squad and budget..its amazing how long he's kept them in the prem and at least they have a nice Cup to always remember

Martinez to Everton for me.. as well as Callum McManaman
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 14, 2013, 05:06:21 PM
... as well as Callum McManaman
Flash in the pan for now. De youth to take with him is James McCarthy.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 18, 2013, 04:36:28 PM
Ah hope Arsenal beats Spurs to the CL spot. Spurs had dey opportunities, lost tuh Chelski and drawin all over the place. Arsenal has handle dey business by winning when dey needed to. Spurs aint ready for CL, to inconsistent in dey efforts. Go get yours Arsenal!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 18, 2013, 05:21:56 PM
watch allyuh waggonist nuh boy.  :thinking:
Title: Re: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on May 18, 2013, 05:24:18 PM
watch allyuh waggonist nuh boy.  :thinking:

We suppose to be talking about Gold Cup.










Lol
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 18, 2013, 06:31:43 PM
watch allyuh waggonist nuh boy.  :thinking:

We suppose to be talking about Gold Cup.










Lol



 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 18, 2013, 06:45:30 PM
watch allyuh waggonist nuh boy.  :thinking:

We suppose to be talking about Gold Cup.










Lol


Buh Gold Cup aint start yet! Yuh mean we should be startin the negative talk early! ;D
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 19, 2013, 10:34:58 AM
I was hoping for fireworks like last year, but relegation settled, title settled,

Newcastle playing like the season already done, Sunderland playing like they will get relegated if they loss.

Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 19, 2013, 10:48:58 AM
Bale is having a stupendous season. What a goal.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 19, 2013, 10:57:07 AM
It good fuh Spurs and Bale! Bale was a no show against Chelski when dey needed him tuh step forward! PFA player of the year my arse! Congrats Arsenal!
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on May 19, 2013, 11:00:57 AM
Bale is having a stupendous season. What a goal.

Tremendous goal.  O'Neil send on the youngster Mitchell, on the wings and not a good minute later he end up isolated against Bale, allowed him onto his left... and well, it became a teaching moment, lol
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 19, 2013, 11:39:29 AM
Tremendous goal.  O'Neil send on the youngster Mitchell, on the wings and not a good minute later he end up isolated against Bale, allowed him onto his left... and well, it became a teaching moment, lol

(http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/resources/images/2431532.jpg?type=articlePortrait)
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on May 19, 2013, 12:18:47 PM
 FINAL PREMIER LEAGUE TABLE - TOP 5:
1. Robin Van Persie
2. Arab Money
3. Russian Money
4. Piers Morgan
5. Gareth Bale
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on May 19, 2013, 12:42:33 PM
Tremendous goal.  O'Neil send on the youngster Mitchell, on the wings and not a good minute later he end up isolated against Bale, allowed him onto his left... and well, it became a teaching moment, lol

(http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/resources/images/2431532.jpg?type=articlePortrait)

Ah yes... fuhget dey hired de Fascist last month.
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Fyzoman on May 19, 2013, 10:55:22 PM
Ok a few things after watching only the highlights today...so is THREE penalty de ref dem deny Tottenham, I would say blatant too!!!!

It really is amazing the comprehensive way in which Manu win de EPL!!

Granted Tottenham failed to make it, but Bale had to score such a Golazo...again???

Watching the highlights, I was thinking I hope Bale get sold to ah Champion League team, cause he come like Ronaldo and Messi and Ribery and Super Mario dem...I want to see dem fellahs playing against the best!!

Ent yuh know later on Lloydie Barker break it down and say de same thing...why would you-as ah football fan-not want to see Bale play in Champions League...my fingers are crossed.

Well here's hoping next season Manu gets more of a challenge, it was kinda boring running away with it sooooo easy this year ;)
Title: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 24, 2013, 07:53:26 AM
17 August 2013

Arsenal v Aston Villa
Chelsea v Hull City
Crystal Palace v Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool v Stoke City
Manchester City v Newcastle United
Norwich City v Everton
Sunderland v Fulham
Swansea City v Manchester United
West Bromwich Albion v Southampton
West Ham United v Cardiff City

24 August 2013

Aston Villa v Liverpool
Cardiff City v Manchester City
Everton v West Bromwich Albion
Fulham v Arsenal
Hull City v Norwich City
Manchester United v Chelsea
Newcastle United v West Ham United
Southampton v Sunderland
Stoke City v Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur v Swansea City

31 August 2013

Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur
Cardiff City v Everton
Chelsea v Aston Villa
Crystal Palace v Sunderland
Liverpool v Manchester United
Manchester City v Hull City
Newcastle United v Fulham
Norwich City v Southampton
West Bromwich Albion v Swansea City
West Ham United v Stoke City

14 September 2013

Aston Villa v Newcastle United
Everton v Chelsea
Fulham v West Bromwich Albion
Hull City v Cardiff City
Manchester United v Crystal Palace
Southampton v West Ham United
Stoke City v Manchester City
Sunderland v Arsenal
Swansea City v Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur v Norwich City

21 September 2013

Arsenal v Stoke City
Cardiff City v Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea v Fulham
Crystal Palace v Swansea City
Liverpool v Southampton
Manchester City v Manchester United
Newcastle United v Hull City
Norwich City v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v Sunderland
West Ham United v Everton

28 September 2013

Aston Villa v Manchester City
Everton v Newcastle United
Fulham v Cardiff City
Hull City v West Ham United
Manchester United v West Bromwich Albion
Southampton v Crystal Palace
Stoke City v Norwich City
Sunderland v Liverpool
Swansea City v Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea

5 October 2013

Cardiff City v Newcastle United
Fulham v Stoke City
Hull City v Aston Villa
Liverpool v Crystal Palace
Manchester City v Everton
Norwich City v Chelsea
Southampton v Swansea City
Sunderland v Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham United
West Bromwich Albion v Arsenal

19 October 2013

Arsenal v Norwich City
Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea v Cardiff City
Crystal Palace v Fulham
Everton v Hull City
Manchester United v Southampton
Newcastle United v Liverpool
Stoke City v West Bromwich Albion
Swansea City v Sunderland
West Ham United v Manchester City

26 October 2013

Aston Villa v Everton
Chelsea v Manchester City
Crystal Palace v Arsenal
Liverpool v West Bromwich Albion
Manchester United v Stoke City
Norwich City v Cardiff City
Southampton v Fulham
Sunderland v Newcastle United
Swansea City v West Ham United
Tottenham Hotspur v Hull City

2 November 2013

Arsenal v Liverpool
Cardiff City v Swansea City
Everton v Tottenham Hotspur
Fulham v Manchester United
Hull City v Sunderland
Manchester City v Norwich City
Newcastle United v Chelsea
Stoke City v Southampton
West Bromwich Albion v Crystal Palace
West Ham United v Aston Villa

9 November 2013

Aston Villa v Cardiff City
Chelsea v West Bromwich Albion
Crystal Palace v Everton
Liverpool v Fulham
Manchester United v Arsenal
Norwich City v West Ham United
Southampton v Hull City
Sunderland v Manchester City
Swansea City v Stoke City
Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United

23 November 2013

Arsenal v Southampton
Cardiff City v Manchester United
Everton v Liverpool
Fulham v Swansea City
Hull City v Crystal Palace
Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur
Newcastle United v Norwich City
Stoke City v Sunderland
West Bromwich Albion v Aston Villa
West Ham United v Chelsea

30 November 2013

Aston Villa v Sunderland
Cardiff City v Arsenal
Chelsea v Southampton
Everton v Stoke City
Hull City v Liverpool
Manchester City v Swansea City
Newcastle United v West Bromwich Albion
Norwich City v Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United
West Ham United v Fulham

3 December 2013

Arsenal v Hull City, 7.45pm
Crystal Palace v West Ham United, 8pm
Liverpool v Norwich City, 8pm
Manchester United v Everton, 7.45pm
Southampton v Aston Villa, 7.45pm
Stoke City v Cardiff City, 7.45pm
Sunderland v Chelsea, 7.45pm
Swansea City v Newcastle United, 7.45pm
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester City, 8pm

4 December 2013

Fulham v Tottenham Hotspur, 8pm

7 December 2013

Arsenal v Everton
Crystal Palace v Cardiff City
Fulham v Aston Villa
Liverpool v West Ham United
Manchester United v Newcastle United
Southampton v Manchester City
Stoke City v Chelsea
Sunderland v Tottenham Hotspur
Swansea City v Hull City
West Bromwich Albion v Norwich City

14 December 2013

Aston Villa v Manchester United
Cardiff City v West Bromwich Albion
Chelsea v Crystal Palace
Everton v Fulham
Hull City v Stoke City
Manchester City v Arsenal
Newcastle United v Southampton
Norwich City v Swansea City
Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool
West Ham United v Sunderland

21 December 2013

Arsenal v Chelsea
Crystal Palace v Newcastle United
Fulham v Manchester City
Liverpool v Cardiff City
Manchester United v West Ham United
Southampton v Tottenham Hotspur
Stoke City v Aston Villa
Sunderland v Norwich City
Swansea City v Everton
West Bromwich Albion v Hull City

26 December 2013

Aston Villa v Crystal Palace
Cardiff City v Southampton
Chelsea v Swansea City
Everton v Sunderland
Hull City v Manchester United
Manchester City v Liverpool
Newcastle United v Stoke City
Norwich City v Fulham
Tottenham Hotspur v West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United v Arsenal

28 December 2013

Aston Villa v Swansea City
Cardiff City v Sunderland
Chelsea v Liverpool
Everton v Southampton
Hull City v Fulham
Manchester City v Crystal Palace
Newcastle United v Arsenal
Norwich City v Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur v Stoke City
West Ham United v West Bromwich Albion

1 January 2014

Arsenal v Cardiff City
Crystal Palace v Norwich City
Fulham v West Ham United
Liverpool v Hull City
Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton v Chelsea
Stoke City v Everton
Sunderland v Aston Villa
Swansea City v Manchester City
West Bromwich Albion v Newcastle United

11 January 2014

Aston Villa v Arsenal
Cardiff City v West Ham United
Everton v Norwich City
Fulham v Sunderland
Hull City v Chelsea
Manchester United v Swansea City
Newcastle United v Manchester City
Southampton v West Bromwich Albion
Stoke City v Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur v Crystal Palace

18 January 2014

Arsenal v Fulham
Chelsea v Manchester United
Crystal Palace v Stoke City
Liverpool v Aston Villa
Manchester City v Cardiff City
Norwich City v Hull City
Sunderland v Southampton
Swansea City v Tottenham Hotspur
West Bromwich Albion v Everton
West Ham United v Newcastle United

28 January 2014

Aston Villa v West Bromwich Albion, 7.45pm
Crystal Palace v Hull City, 8pm
Liverpool v Everton, 8pm
Manchester United v Cardiff City, 7.45pm
Norwich City v Newcastle United, 7.45pm
Southampton v Arsenal, 7.45pm
Sunderland v Stoke City, 7.45pm
Swansea City v Fulham, 7.45pm

29 January 2014

Chelsea v West Ham United, 7.45pm
Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City, 7.45pm

1 February 2014

Arsenal v Crystal Palace
Cardiff City v Norwich City
Everton v Aston Villa
Fulham v Southampton
Hull City v Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester City v Chelsea
Newcastle United v Sunderland
Stoke City v Manchester United
West Bromwich Albion v Liverpool
West Ham United v Swansea City

8 February 2014

Aston Villa v West Ham United
Chelsea v Newcastle United
Crystal Palace v West Bromwich Albion
Liverpool v Arsenal
Manchester United v Fulham
Norwich City v Manchester City
Southampton v Stoke City
Sunderland v Hull City
Swansea City v Cardiff City
Tottenham Hotspur v Everton

11 February 2014

Arsenal v Manchester United, 7.45pm
Cardiff City v Aston Villa, 7.45pm
Hull City v Southampton, 7.45pm
Stoke City v Swansea City, 7.45pm
West Bromwich Albion v Chelsea, 8pm
West Ham United v Norwich City, 7.45pm

12 February 2014

Everton v Crystal Palace, 7.45pm
Fulham v Liverpool, 8pm
Manchester City v Sunderland, 7.45pm
Newcastle United v Tottenham Hotspur, 7.45pm

22 February 2014

Arsenal v Sunderland
Cardiff City v Hull City
Chelsea v Everton
Crystal Palace v Manchester United
Liverpool v Swansea City
Manchester City v Stoke City
Newcastle United v Aston Villa
Norwich City v Tottenham Hotspur
West Bromwich Albion v Fulham
West Ham United v Southampton

1 March 2014

Aston Villa v Norwich City
Everton v West Ham United
Fulham v Chelsea
Hull City v Newcastle United
Manchester United v Manchester City
Southampton v Liverpool
Stoke City v Arsenal
Sunderland v West Bromwich Albion
Swansea City v Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur v Cardiff City

8 March 2014

Arsenal v Swansea City
Cardiff City v Fulham
Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur
Crystal Palace v Southampton
Liverpool v Sunderland
Manchester City v Aston Villa
Newcastle United v Everton
Norwich City v Stoke City
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester United
West Ham United v Hull City

15 March 2014

Aston Villa v Chelsea
Everton v Cardiff City
Fulham v Newcastle United
Hull City v Manchester City
Manchester United v Liverpool
Southampton v Norwich City
Stoke City v West Ham United
Sunderland v Crystal Palace
Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion
Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal

22 March 2014

Aston Villa v Stoke City
Cardiff City v Liverpool
Chelsea v Arsenal
Everton v Swansea City
Hull City v West Bromwich Albion
Manchester City v Fulham
Newcastle United v Crystal Palace
Norwich City v Sunderland
Tottenham Hotspur v Southampton
West Ham United v Manchester United

29 March 2014

Arsenal v Manchester City
Crystal Palace v Chelsea
Fulham v Everton
Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester United v Aston Villa
Southampton v Newcastle United
Stoke City v Hull City
Sunderland v West Ham United
Swansea City v Norwich City
West Bromwich Albion v Cardiff City

5 April 2014

Aston Villa v Fulham
Cardiff City v Crystal Palace
Chelsea v Stoke City
Everton v Arsenal
Hull City v Swansea City
Manchester City v Southampton
Newcastle United v Manchester United
Norwich City v West Bromwich Albion
Tottenham Hotspur v Sunderland
West Ham United v Liverpool

12 April 2014

Arsenal v West Ham United
Crystal Palace v Aston Villa
Fulham v Norwich City
Liverpool v Manchester City
Manchester United v Hull City
Southampton v Cardiff City
Stoke City v Newcastle United
Sunderland v Everton
Swansea City v Chelsea
West Bromwich Albion v Tottenham Hotspur

19 April 2014

Aston Villa v Southampton
Cardiff City v Stoke City
Chelsea v Sunderland
Everton v Manchester United
Hull City v Arsenal
Manchester City v West Bromwich Albion
Newcastle United v Swansea City
Norwich City v Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur v Fulham
West Ham United v Crystal Palace

26 April 2014

Arsenal v Newcastle United
Crystal Palace v Manchester City
Fulham v Hull City
Liverpool v Chelsea
Manchester United v Norwich City
Southampton v Everton
Stoke City v Tottenham Hotspur
Sunderland v Cardiff City
Swansea City v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v West Ham United

3 May 2014

Arsenal v West Bromwich Albion
Aston Villa v Hull City
Chelsea v Norwich City
Crystal Palace v Liverpool
Everton v Manchester City
Manchester United v Sunderland
Newcastle United v Cardiff City
Stoke City v Fulham
Swansea City v Southampton
West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur

11 May 2014

Cardiff City v Chelsea
Fulham v Crystal Palace
Hull City v Everton
Liverpool v Newcastle United
Manchester City v West Ham United
Norwich City v Arsenal
Southampton v Manchester United
Sunderland v Swansea City
Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v Stoke City

Please find below the fixtures. All kick-off times are 3pm, unless stated. Please note these fixtures are subject to change.

Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 24, 2013, 08:00:16 AM
A Premier League ticket price revolution is underway
Posted by Kristian Walsh (soccernet)


In London's Regent's Park on Wednesday, it was the afternoon after the morning before. While millions of football fans perused through next season's fixture list hot off the Premier League press, a tiny fraction -- tiny, no more than 750, significant -- congregated near Baker Street Station.

The Premier League was firmly on their agenda and the target of their fledging voices, but this had nothing to do with whom would play whom and on what date. That was not the worry of those who represented Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United and Tottenham, among others. It was not whom they would meet, but how: How can football fans continue to afford ticket prices which keep rising despite a new television deal worth £5.5billion?

The expertly crafted banners that were unfurled marked the first time the question had been asked so publicly, so emphatically. The patchwork of football shirts heralded the end of tribalism, if only for one day.

As those who held the banners marched towards the Premier League's headquarters in Gloucester Place, unity was achieved. Unity from those who sang, shouted, played music through gigantic speakers in the name of disruption; unity from members of the public -- supporters and detractors alike -- who couldn't fail to hear their message, written in black lettering on a large, white sheet: Football without fans is nothing.

But before glimpsing into the dystopian future of a desolate, barren sport, a nod to the not-so-utopian here and now.

The fans who walked and talked together on Wednesday in protest did not want to do so; they have jobs, families and other things more important than football to contend with in their everyday lives. But, as one banner proclaimed, enough is enough. Enough was enough for Liverpool supporters union Spirit of Shankly, which coordinated the demonstration in the aftermath of meetings in both the northwest of England and London.

This is not a Liverpool thing, although ticket prices have risen 1108 percent at Anfield since 1989. They, and many others, regard it far more seriously than that, with support coming from other groups and organisations including Manchester United Supporters' Trust, the Blue Union of Everton, Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust and Arsenal's Black Scarf Movement.

Football was always supposed to be an affordable form of escapism; its supporters were always supposed to be treated as the lifeblood of the club. No longer is it affordable for many, the blood supply quelled by a tourniquet of money.

Ticket prices have increased -- and with them, the disconnect between clubs and fans -- by an average of 716 percent since 1989; in the same period, supporters' wages have only risen by an average of 186 percent, while the Bank of England's inflation is at 77 percent.
Such razor-blade figures would cut the throat a little less deep if not for the income generated by television deals alone, by which the latest three-year package, worth £5.5billion, would allow clubs to lower every ticket by £51.30 and still enjoy the same revenue as last year. But there is also the expenditure on transfer fees and player wages, the latter of which has increased over 1500 percent in 15 years.

It is that expenditure on players' fees and wages that see clubs hang supporters by the purse strings. This, some say, is the extortionate price of success. If there was no extraordinary television deal, then English clubs could not attract the players they do. Because they attract these players, prices can be justified more. It is a vicious, dizzying circle for supporters -- one few are reluctant to break.

It is an audience not just captive, but bound and shackled by the routines of their ancestors and memories of their childhoods. Try to escape escapism.

Only Norwich City have reduced last year's prices of both their cheapest and most expensive season ticket, while a further eight others have frozen them. It becomes clearer that fans are regarded as a commodity, a collective tool for brazen marketing, a consumer -- and there's little they can do about it. Indeed, there were few people wanted to do about it.
Until now, it seems. James McKenna, chairperson of SOS, believes it is just the beginning of a wider movement that will look to gather momentum.

"There is a captive audience. That's because they have monetised loyalty," McKenna said. "In football, you don't just pick and choose your football club, so free market rules shouldn't apply. They only do because the football cartel is greedy."

He added: "The intention of the demonstration was the show that supporters aren't happy and use it as a catalyst for future action and a bigger campaign. That has happened, and the coverage in the media was not only large but favourable.

"The message is out there -- supporters are not happy, and understandably so."

The message that is now out there began, in part, when Manchester City returned over 900 tickets back to Arsenal before their visit to the Emirates, a response to the £62 price set by the north London club. The coverage the gesture received was unprecedented in the British media.

But that was just one club and, although others followed, there was no cohesion. That is partly due to the pricing band of many Premier League clubs: The more successful the team has been, the more the support suffers, with clubs like Liverpool and Manchester United paying £19 more to watch their team away at Fulham than Wigan Athletic do.

The scattergun of support at Wednesday's protest, however, including some championship representation, demonstrates that cohesion now exists.

"Supporters standing together on such a large scale is a first, and it's only the beginning," McKenna said. "At the meetings we had, I kept saying to people that what unites us is much bigger than what divides us all. It would seem people agree.

"The reports are that there were over 40 different clubs represented, which shows that the campaign isn't just about "big" clubs, or Premier League clubs, or a north and south thing -- it's all supporters of all clubs, angry and wanting change."

These supporters stood together behind the banner, and belief, that football without fans is nothing, a chilling threat to those who think the game will continue without them. Of all the artwork, this was the one emblazoned across the minds of everybody who saw it, a juggernaut of realism to the sternum.

Nobody anticipates empty stadiums, of course. The Premier League will never play to a gallery of stewards and pitch-side announcers alone. But the operative word is fan; not consumer or customer, but a supporter, somebody who reflects the culture of what the club used to believe in and the city it is based in; a person who will still support their team irrespective of form or league position.

The seats might not be empty, but they might as well be. Football would be nothing if stadiums were filled with people who have no real attachment to what was being played before them, thoughts more concentrated on the postmatch traffic that awaits them rather than the game itself. Football would be nothing if the only investment those watching truly cared about was financial rather than emotional, the concept of entertainment and value for money far greater than anything else.

It has already begun. And while clubs might still receive revenue from these football consumers, the Premier League's major selling point -- the passionate, unwavering support -- will eventually dwindle; with it, revenue from television companies and overseas audience viewing figures.

Still, the sight of some stadiums still packed full will dishearten those so steadfast, especially while those priced out watch it at home or in a pub near the stadium, their capacity ever increasing. But if this is to lead to change, it will not be instantaneous. Borussia Dortmund's Kein Zwanni für nen Steher campaign -- translated as 20 euros for standing, no way -- will frequently be cited after the Bundesliga club returned 1500 tickets in 2010 following a ticket price increase for their trip to local rivals Schalke.

Their English counterparts would no doubt acknowledge how far from reality it is for them. Manchester City's trip to Arsenal is one thing, but a local derby a more gruesome beast to cross. Sport often reflects society -- British society is divided and immersed in selfishness. Derbies from the Northeast to the South Coast are still tickets hotly sought after; few tickets would remain unsold.

Yet the first step is the most significant, and here were several hundred of them. The march to Premier League headquarters was only a 30-minute walk and just over a mile and a half in distance, but it was far more meaningful given who were side by side. In a football world consumed by the banal and the banter, in which club loyalty blinds all and nothing but oneupmanship matters, to find common ground over this should deliver the message loudly.

It would be in the Premier League's best interests to listen it seems. Richard Scudamore, Premier League CEO, arranged an impromptu meeting with some of the groups' members; the organisation also released a statement, heralding the protest, though suspicion abounds over whether they are words of conviction.

"We knew what they would say -- the talk about average attendances, it being for clubs to decide pricing, expressing sympathy," McKenna added. "What they will have had to listen to, and would be wise to take heed of, is that supporters are angry; we won't be patted on the head and ignored, and we won't play by the Premier League rules of divide and conquer.

"They are all in it together -- the Premier League, the clubs, the players, agents, sponsors. All of them are responsible. All of them are targets."

As the sun began to take solace behind the clouds and the music faded into the summer smog, the banners were rolled back into their canvas bags. They will be rolled out again. One lingered a little bit longer than the others, a play on a Manic Street Preachers song: If you tolerate this, then your children will be next. It is a reminder that these supporters' actions are also with the intention of safeguarding the future. And what of the immediate future, what of those who congregated in central London with no real idea of what lay ahead?

"We need all supporters at all clubs to be out talking to fellow supporters about it, getting together, making sure they speak to their clubs about it, making sure they plan actions and demonstrations," McKenna said.

"This is just the start. The hard work starts now. Football, one way or another, will look very different in the next few seasons."

If football is to look different in the next few seasons, decades, generations, then history will dictate it started at Regent's Park. The writing might have been solely reserved for banners on Wednesday, but these supporters hope the writing will be on the wall soon enough for those who dictate ticket prices. It is hard to shake the feeling that the battle has just begun.

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Supporters from clubs all over England convened in London's Regent's Park last Wednesday to protest high ticket prices.

Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: chelsealife on July 01, 2013, 06:12:21 AM
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/martinez-close-finalising-everton-backroom-team-3966364#.UdFtcthXpus
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bourbon on July 01, 2013, 11:23:02 AM
Check this infographic out. It kinda big....sorry...but I just sharing it as I got it.

http://i.imgur.com/Lthg3tI.jpg

Edit: really not getting it to resize properly. Click on the link and you'd be able to scroll accordingly I guess.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on July 01, 2013, 11:35:29 AM
bourbon put "width=800" inside the image tag

edit dat image difficult to scale effectively boy reaches for calculator
Title: 2013-2014 BPL Season
Post by: triniairman on August 16, 2013, 11:50:31 PM
Please merge if a thread like this already exist. I could not find it.

New season, New managers, New players, New challengers... Its going to be a great season. Good luck to all the fans and their respective teams.

Title: Re: 2013-2014 BPL Season
Post by: Bakes on August 17, 2013, 12:22:37 AM
Yuh ha' tuh post the weekly schedule man  ;D
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 17, 2013, 05:58:04 AM
Liverpool almost get ketch there.

The words "Mark Hughes", "Manager" and your club name should strike fear into the hearts of Stoke supporters. Besides the one breakaway so far, this is Liverpool sitting in front of Stoke's area trying to score.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 17, 2013, 06:15:28 AM
Liverpool almost get ketch there.

The words "Mark Hughes", "Manager" and your club name should strike fear into the hearts of Stoke supporters. Besides the one breakaway so far, this is Liverpool sitting in front of Stoke's area trying to score.

Stoke nearly get ketch two or three times deyself... especially when Kolo rock the crossbar.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 17, 2013, 06:22:18 AM
Liverpool almost get ketch there.

The words "Mark Hughes", "Manager" and your club name should strike fear into the hearts of Stoke supporters. Besides the one breakaway so far, this is Liverpool sitting in front of Stoke's area trying to score.

Stoke nearly get ketch two or three times deyself... especially when Kolo rock the crossbar.

Begovic vs Liverpool
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 17, 2013, 06:27:22 AM
Yeah... he real keeping.  Some incredible kick saves.  As I type Mignolet showing he eh no slouch either.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 17, 2013, 08:12:58 AM
For those in the states,

NBC sports live extra is working out very nicely.  I had to use IE though, wouldn't show a picture on chrome for me.

http://stream.nbcsports.com/liveextra/
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 17, 2013, 08:39:05 AM
For those in the states,

NBC sports live extra is working out very nicely.  I had to use IE though, wouldn't show a picture on chrome for me.

http://stream.nbcsports.com/liveextra/

Took a few seconds for the feed to initialize, but working fine for me on Chrome.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 17, 2013, 08:48:14 AM
For those in the states,

NBC sports live extra is working out very nicely.  I had to use IE though, wouldn't show a picture on chrome for me.

http://stream.nbcsports.com/liveextra/

Took a few seconds for the feed to initialize, but working fine for me on Chrome.

Can't get past the login, keeps going back to the login page.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 17, 2013, 09:38:09 AM
For those in the states,

NBC sports live extra is working out very nicely.  I had to use IE though, wouldn't show a picture on chrome for me.

http://stream.nbcsports.com/liveextra/

Took a few seconds for the feed to initialize, but working fine for me on Chrome.

Can't get past the login, keeps going back to the login page.

Try clearing yuh cookies... and maybe restarting if necessary.  I was good this week, but had to make sure for future matches.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 17, 2013, 09:52:13 AM
For those in the states,

NBC sports live extra is working out very nicely.  I had to use IE though, wouldn't show a picture on chrome for me.

http://stream.nbcsports.com/liveextra/

Took a few seconds for the feed to initialize, but working fine for me on Chrome.

Can't get past the login, keeps going back to the login page.

Try clearing yuh cookies... and maybe restarting if necessary.  I was good this week, but had to make sure for future matches.

I know all that - too much other things running - football, cricket.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: triniairman on August 17, 2013, 11:35:14 AM
Arsenal... What happened today? :-\  ;D
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: triniairman on August 17, 2013, 12:12:35 PM
Wellbeck f@!k up my fantasy clean sheet!!!  :cursing:
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Banter Banton on August 17, 2013, 01:07:57 PM
United... New Season, Old Habit

Winning, its what we do

Dont choke Haters
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on August 18, 2013, 12:30:33 AM
Arsenal... What happened today? :-\  ;D

Bad day at the office. Still need an alternative to Arteta and the attack wasted some very, very good chances. The ref really killed us but we will get our lucky calls over the course of the season. 16 days to address the problems of the squad.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 18, 2013, 06:50:22 AM
Palace looking decent. Not just sitting back and hoping Spurs don't score.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 18, 2013, 08:13:16 AM
This game is wide open. Spurs looking like the promoted side.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 18, 2013, 09:03:45 AM
Hull should get relegated just for them uniforms.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on August 18, 2013, 09:55:04 AM
Hull should get relegated just for them uniforms.
:rotfl:
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 21, 2013, 02:46:12 PM
Chelsea get all kinda help from the ref to beat Villa 2-1.  First Ivanovich get away with a clean elbow to Benteke's jaw... only to score the go-ahead goal 3 mins later... on an offside goal at that LOL. 

Then in added time, Terry clearly handled the ball in the area with Kevin Friend posted not a good 5 yards away.  Every Villa hand in the vicinity immediately went up... ref turn he back and run upfield like he ent see nothing. 
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 21, 2013, 03:03:12 PM
Dude allyuh bias as fack oui!  So Gabby pinnin dong Terry while he trying to get lift din ha nutten to do wid he hand goin up ent?!  Steups is like allyuh does watch football from behind ah wall we caw da was clear as day.  And Iva did not hit Benteke in he jaw, if he ketch him in he Jaw da sucka woulda spit out some blood.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 21, 2013, 03:57:37 PM
Dude allyuh bias as fack oui!  So Gabby pinnin dong Terry while he trying to get lift din ha nutten to do wid he hand goin up ent?!  Steups is like allyuh does watch football from behind ah wall we caw da was clear as day.  And Iva did not hit Benteke in he jaw, if he ketch him in he Jaw da sucka woulda spit out some blood.

I bias?  On Saturday Agger went up to clear a ball in the Liverpool area and get jostle just as he was about to head the ball.  Ball hit he hand instead, hand was lower than the level of his head so wasn't raised in "an unnatural position"... penalty for Stoke.  But I bias? lol.  Just admit that allyuh get away and doh come talking shit nah.  As for Ivanovic, yuh arguing that the elbow didn't land on he jaw...  ::)  The elbow was intentional and clearly connected above the shoulders... if you want to split hairs whether it was he jaw, cheek or neck be my guest.  At least yuh not arguing de fact that he was offside(s).  Them call tend to even out over the season, but Villa should feel rightly aggrieved.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 25, 2013, 10:39:28 AM
Cardiff is giving Man City fits...

Much better game than Spurs-Swansea

as I type, they score again to go ahead!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 25, 2013, 10:47:20 AM
3-1!

Frazier Campbell will be partying hard tonight.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 25, 2013, 10:53:58 AM
3-2!

3 minutes of hell for Cardiff now. Can they hang on?

I don't know where the ref get 6 minutes of stoppage time from.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 25, 2013, 10:59:58 AM
Cardiff fans celebrating like they win the league oui.
First top-flight win in 51 years.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on August 25, 2013, 11:44:58 AM
Good
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 25, 2013, 02:18:09 PM
Good

Doh worry, the special one will deal with allyuh tomorrow.
Title: Re: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on August 25, 2013, 03:06:13 PM
Good

Doh worry, the special one will deal with allyuh tomorrow.

He will get a special cutt ass
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 25, 2013, 07:47:32 PM
Cardiff fans celebrating like they win the league oui.
First top-flight win in 51 years.

Hearing them sing Bob Marley's "One Love" at the end was pretty special.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 25, 2013, 07:49:27 PM
Cardiff is giving Man City fits...

Much better game than Spurs-Swansea

as I type, they score again to go ahead!

The thing that frustrated me with Shelvey when he was at Liverpool was that he had a bit of a madman streak with some of his tackles.  Today he gave away a penalty that wasn't called, and later got called for a penalty that wasn't.  Swansea will feel aggrieved.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 14, 2013, 06:33:06 AM
Palace get tief, red card, penalty, game done.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: triniairman on September 14, 2013, 07:55:56 AM
Palace get tief, red card, penalty, game done.
you acting rell bitter. That result must ave hurt you bad huh? Lol
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 14, 2013, 08:22:31 AM
Palace get tief, red card, penalty, game done.
you acting rell bitter. That result must ave hurt you bad huh? Lol

I expected Man U to win easily. I thought they made hard work of it. But the diving, soft penalty and red card guaranteed the result.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 14, 2013, 08:46:25 AM
Stoke is pushing Man City hard. Hughes, like he still vex he get fired.
They have had some good looks at goal.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 14, 2013, 08:48:57 AM
Stoke is pushing Man City hard. Hughes, like he still vex he get fired.
They have had some good looks at goal.
I ain't watching, but I read that KJ had a miss. Was it bad or just a 'could've done better'?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 14, 2013, 08:53:54 AM
Stoke is pushing Man City hard. Hughes, like he still vex he get fired.
They have had some good looks at goal.
I ain't watching, but I read that KJ had a miss. Was it bad or just a 'could've done better'?

He nip the ball off Nasri who was dawdling in the back but then put his shot too close to Joe Hart trying to go far post.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 14, 2013, 09:01:49 AM
Stoke is pushing Man City hard. Hughes, like he still vex he get fired.
They have had some good looks at goal.
I ain't watching, but I read that KJ had a miss. Was it bad or just a 'could've done better'?

He nip the ball off Nasri who was dawdling in the back but then put his shot too close to Joe Hart trying to go far post.
Ah ok. Thanks.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: chelsealife on September 14, 2013, 09:18:39 AM
KJ having a time with that Man City defence, rell rough  up. First touch en looking too bad, just needs a goal which will come soon if Stoke continue dominating (yea Stoke dominating)  :beermug:. Crouch on d bench biting he lip
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 14, 2013, 09:27:08 AM
KJ having a time with that Man City defence, rell rough  up. First touch en looking too bad, just needs a goal which will come soon if Stoke continue dominating (yea Stoke dominating)  :beermug:. Crouch on d bench biting he lip

I didn't want to say Stoke dominating for fear of jinxing them, but as the 2nd half continues, Man City not looking like the side with supposedly the better talent.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: chelsealife on September 14, 2013, 09:33:35 AM
KJ injured, hopefully he's just coming off as pre caution. Had a really good game *claps*
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on September 14, 2013, 09:35:35 AM
KJ reborn, whatever he do to himself it working
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 14, 2013, 09:54:48 AM
Ah backing Arsenal but, objectively, Sunderland get tief.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: chelsealife on September 14, 2013, 10:24:34 AM
Ah backing Arsenal but, objectively, Sunderland get tief.
Especially with d Altidore goal which was "cleared". What about goal line technology with the vibrating watch when the ball crosses the line. I am sure it was over
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: FF on September 14, 2013, 10:57:02 AM
Ah backing Arsenal but, objectively, Sunderland get tief.
Especially with d Altidore goal which was "cleared". What about goal line technology with the vibrating watch when the ball crosses the line. I am sure it was over

It was over the line but the referee had already blown the play dead. He did not extend he advantage which was a shame
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: grimm01 on September 14, 2013, 01:36:30 PM
Ah backing Arsenal but, objectively, Sunderland get tief.
Especially with d Altidore goal which was "cleared". What about goal line technology with the vibrating watch when the ball crosses the line. I am sure it was over

It was over the line but the referee had already blown the play dead. He did not extend he advantage which was a shame

In the replay it seems to me that he blow a couple for an extended time for them to stop. Also, in one of the alternate angles yuh could see the ref put the whistle to mouth while they still tussling and when Altidore break free the was already running to the spot signalling for a free kick. This is not American football where the ref could flag a play and then cancel the infraction if yuh score on the same play.

If he going to play advantage, he has to signal that so everyone is aware and playing to that. However once he blow the whistle play supposed to stop. In this case the ref didn't call advantage, he blow the whistle.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on September 14, 2013, 03:35:08 PM
In the replay it seems to me that he blow a couple for an extended time for them to stop. Also, in one of the alternate angles yuh could see the ref put the whistle to mouth while they still tussling and when Altidore break free the was already running to the spot signalling for a free kick. This is not American football where the ref could flag a play and then cancel the infraction if yuh score on the same play.

If he going to play advantage, he has to signal that so everyone is aware and playing to that. However once he blow the whistle play supposed to stop. In this case the ref didn't call advantage, he blow the whistle.

Not only that, the instant Jozy break free you could kinda see Sagna stop playing and turn back towards the ref... seeming to confirm that the foul had been called.

--------------

Meanwhile, Gareth Barry paying early and immediate dividends at Everton.  Not a dominant performance, the opposition was too good... but a masterclass in passing and defending.  Everton are immediately more organized and dangerous going forward, and he'll prove a tremendous partner for Ross Barkley, who terrorized Chelsea every time he ventured forward.  He was a little bit of a greedy bitch though, trying to do too much at times.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 15, 2013, 07:52:59 AM
Palace played too many voluntary/needless/unambitious negative passes during the course of the game. They fell on the sword they sharpened. There was a way out of that specific situation (in the lead up to the goal) defensively other than playing the ball negatively.

Dikagcoi was forced into remedying a bad situation and unsurprisingly suffered for it.

(How is this situation different from a basketballer drawing a foul?)
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on September 15, 2013, 11:13:57 AM
Palace played too many voluntary/needless/unambitious negative passes during the course of the game. They fell on the sword they sharpened. There was a way out of that specific situation (in the lead up to the goal) defensively other than playing the ball negatively.

Dikagcoi was forced into remedying a bad situation and unsurprisingly suffered for it.

(How is this situation different from a basketballer drawing a foul?)

There is no equivalent play in basketball.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: triniairman on September 15, 2013, 01:01:31 PM
Ashley young = LeBron James  ;D
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on September 21, 2013, 11:31:47 AM
Ah wonder if d Chelsea faithful still still glad dey run Rafa...........Ryan whey yuh ???
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on September 21, 2013, 12:13:36 PM
What Mourinho doin boy. He will take the win but Chelsea look unimpressive in this game.  Fulham defending well for the most part though.

That's really Mikel's first Prem goal? Wow
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on September 21, 2013, 12:17:45 PM
What Mourinho doin boy. He will take the win but Chelsea look unimpressive in this game.  Fulham defending well for the most part though.
for d life of me i can't see how mata cyah start ....even if he doh press
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on September 21, 2013, 12:19:31 PM
What Mourinho doin boy. He will take the win but Chelsea look unimpressive in this game.  Fulham defending well for the most part though.
for d life of me i can't see how mata cyah start ....even if he doh press

How come he wasn't even selected?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on September 21, 2013, 12:30:51 PM
What Mourinho doin boy. He will take the win but Chelsea look unimpressive in this game.  Fulham defending well for the most part though.
for d life of me i can't see how mata cyah start ....even if he doh press

How come he wasn't even selected?

possible transfer to come and jose alienating him and luiz too............ryan scarce..... wonder what he would say.....rafa would have been good for this team.........I losing interest.................I doh even check d fixture list with fervor anymore.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: triniairman on September 21, 2013, 12:57:14 PM
What Mourinho doin boy. He will take the win but Chelsea look unimpressive in this game.  Fulham defending well for the most part though.
for d life of me i can't see how mata cyah start ....even if he doh press

How come he wasn't even selected?
if allyuh don't want him, we will be glad to take him lol. We know quality players.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 22, 2013, 08:08:51 AM
I don't know why Hughes take of KJ. He was presenting a credible threat. Right now, Arsenal just looking to see out the rest of the game.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: maxg on September 22, 2013, 08:17:36 AM
I think Stoke gone to far left, with the knock. Now they ain't bringing no air cross at all.not playing to KJ strength...not that he not strong in the knock, but the knock is not where he will dominate opposing defenders. Walters have shares in this team?

Almost gone from a one dimensional team to a different one dimensional team
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 22, 2013, 08:21:03 AM
So far Stoke hasn't done poorly with the knock. In the 2nd half they have more of the ball. But they lacking that final ball.

So far this season is making me re-assess Hughes as a manager. I guess the secret is to not give him any money to spend. 
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: maxg on September 22, 2013, 08:31:10 AM
Exactly, the final 3 rd knock wasn't causing any doors to open..so instead of sending some grapple or kicking the door down, they stand outside knocking, KJ an all had to come back in midfield to participate in the knock...needed a change up, to adjust to the team yuh playing and just try something else, instead of  the knock with knock masters.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 22, 2013, 08:34:26 AM
Charlie Adam is de biggest problem, to me. He supposed to be the advanced creative midfielder and his decision-making is a mess.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 22, 2013, 09:16:13 AM
Good Goal in Manchester, by Manchester!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 22, 2013, 09:25:20 AM
Man City knock right now is a thing of beauty.

Meanwhile, you figure is only a matter of time before Spurs score on Cardiff.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on September 22, 2013, 09:37:04 AM
f**k
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 22, 2013, 09:46:19 AM
Game done?

What is Fellaini purpose?
Smalling is just barely above water.
Ashley Young needs to move further up the field, you can't dive for a penalty if you not in the box.
Rooney is dropping too deep, and city isn't at all concerned about wellbeck.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: TdotTrini on September 22, 2013, 09:46:58 AM
Goal! Manchester.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: maxg on September 22, 2013, 09:47:36 AM
f**k
some ppl does be glad to get one..you now get 2... Niiccceee
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: triniairman on September 22, 2013, 09:49:53 AM
Fellaini fault on that second goal, everybody too busy swinging on his nuts to see it. He started making him then left him free..Anderson over him anyday
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: triniairman on September 22, 2013, 09:51:27 AM
Game done?

What is Fellaini purpose?
Smalling is just barely above water.
Ashley Young needs to move further up the field, you can't dive for a penalty if you not in the box.
Rooney is dropping too deep, and city isn't at all concerned about wellbeck.
same thing I asked when we bought him, this is in regards to the Fellaini question.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 22, 2013, 10:04:32 AM
Game Done!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: triniairman on September 22, 2013, 10:08:36 AM
Weak ass Moyes!! Bring on cleverly, when we got Kagawa and Nani. This is not F@$ing Everton!!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on September 22, 2013, 10:14:37 AM
wtf i just turn to watch cricket and come back  :(
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: triniairman on September 22, 2013, 10:39:27 AM
Good win city, we deserved that ass wash. Moyes was a goat tonight, go buy the rest of Everton now!!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: triniairman on September 22, 2013, 10:45:26 AM
Damn you Rooney!! I was hoping for a clean sheet for Zaballetta
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 22, 2013, 10:55:12 AM
Hard luck dey Cardiff.
That was an epic defensive stand, undone by a bit of quality in stoppage time.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on September 22, 2013, 10:57:44 AM
David Moyes is in an unenviable position. It was always going to be difficult making the transition from Everton to a club with the history and level of media scrutiny such as Manchester United. Of course, there is the additional fact that he is going to struggle to come out of Alex Ferguson's shadow.

I hope the United fans give him time to adjust.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: futbolfan on September 22, 2013, 11:02:22 AM
Good win city, we deserved that ass wash. Moyes was a goat tonight, go buy the rest of Everton now!!

I am also skeptical of Moyes, but we have to give him time to adapt. It was a bad game overall, but the season is still early and some inconsistent play should be expected.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 28, 2013, 09:44:25 AM
City fell asleep at the wheel and let Villa steal this one.
Man U is being outplayed by West Brom. Sessegnon is abusing the center-backs.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: FF on September 28, 2013, 09:52:27 AM
de commentator say he ent have a clue where Villa get that victory from
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: triniairman on September 28, 2013, 10:14:49 AM
Good win city, we deserved that ass wash. Moyes was a goat tonight, go buy the rest of Everton now!!

I am also skeptical of Moyes, but we have to give him time to adapt. It was a bad game overall, but the season is still early and some inconsistent play should be expected.

We were outplayed by WBA at home. Unacceptable!! This club is too big for a mediocre manager!!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 28, 2013, 11:24:01 AM
Good win city, we deserved that ass wash. Moyes was a goat tonight, go buy the rest of Everton now!!

I am also skeptical of Moyes, but we have to give him time to adapt. It was a bad game overall, but the season is still early and some inconsistent play should be expected.

We were outplayed by WBA at home. Unacceptable!! This club is too big for a mediocre manager!!

That is Ferguson's hand-picked successor.  Deal with it:  back de man and be patient. 
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tallman on September 28, 2013, 11:33:55 AM
de commentator say he ent have a clue where Villa get that victory from

I like de part after Villa score dey 3rd goal where he say how de two center backs From Man City should get lock up.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 28, 2013, 12:09:43 PM
de commentator say he ent have a clue where Villa get that victory from

I like de part after Villa score dey 3rd goal where he say how de two center backs From Man City should get lock up.

lol...criminal defending
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on September 28, 2013, 12:34:08 PM
Sweet free kick from Bacuna... Hart was wearing he fancy cement boots this game.

http://www.youtube.com/v/KiZrHQWIjmA
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on September 28, 2013, 02:44:54 PM
Nice work Arsenal. Imagine Cazorla, Walcott, Podolski and Rosicky still to come back.

BRING ON NAPOLI!  :challenge:
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 29, 2013, 06:58:25 AM
Stoke have me cussing the tv for the past 25 minutes.
Allyuh men is EPL players? Oh gosh man, all I want is a decent pass - to your own teammate!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on September 29, 2013, 08:00:36 AM
Stoke have me cussing the tv for the past 25 minutes.
Allyuh men is EPL players? Oh gosh man, all I want is a decent pass - to your own teammate!

seems KJ was poor gain today too
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: g on September 29, 2013, 08:20:24 AM
Stoke have me cussing the tv for the past 25 minutes.
Allyuh men is EPL players? Oh gosh man, all I want is a decent pass - to your own teammate!

seems KJ was poor gain today too

The whole team was poor. This on the back of players talking in the media all week about their love for Hughes playing style etc.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 29, 2013, 08:21:44 AM
Stoke have me cussing the tv for the past 25 minutes.
Allyuh men is EPL players? Oh gosh man, all I want is a decent pass - to your own teammate!

seems KJ was poor gain today too
I thought he was alright. The midfield wasn't getting him the ball. Whole side playing like they drink last night.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 29, 2013, 08:22:38 AM
Stoke have me cussing the tv for the past 25 minutes.
Allyuh men is EPL players? Oh gosh man, all I want is a decent pass - to your own teammate!

seems KJ was poor gain today too

The whole team was poor. This on the back of players talking in the media all week about their love for Hughes playing style etc.
KJ dissing Pulis on Twitter last night turn a lot of fans against him too.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: ckhan on September 29, 2013, 09:17:24 AM
It's almost as though he's talking himself out of stoke. He had an alright game today but the folks are afterward him regardless.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 30, 2013, 09:28:53 AM
KJ wasn't bad at all.  the team was hapless.  Defenders making all kinda shit passes, midfield grossly ineffective.  Pennant provided a spark and may have put something where KJ could head it if KJ wasn't taken off.  That was one of those games where the defenders needed to launch it up to KJ so he could knock down for a teamate and build in their opponent half because the seem to have no clue how to build from the back in that game.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: maxg on September 30, 2013, 09:59:00 AM
KJ wasn't bad at all.  the team was hapless.  Defenders making all kinda shit passes, midfield grossly ineffective.  Pennant provided a spark and may have put something where KJ could head it if KJ wasn't taken off.  That was one of those games where the defenders needed to launch it up to KJ so he could knock down for a teamate and build in their opponent half because the seem to have no clue how to build from the back in that game.
Did see it in the previous games..what surprised me was how well Norwich planned and excuted based on that observation...

I think Stoke gone to far left, with the knock. Now they ain't bringing no air cross at all.not playing to KJ strength...not that he not strong in the knock, but the knock is not where he will dominate opposing defenders. Walters have shares in this team?

Almost gone from a one dimensional team to a different one dimensional team

And Hughes just stuck with it right thru, could have changed it up at the half..
On the positive side, they will get very good at it eventually, if they don't fall into the relegation zone before..
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on September 30, 2013, 10:49:41 AM
KJ wasn't bad at all.  the team was hapless.  Defenders making all kinda shit passes, midfield grossly ineffective.  Pennant provided a spark and may have put something where KJ could head it if KJ wasn't taken off.  That was one of those games where the defenders needed to launch it up to KJ so he could knock down for a teamate and build in their opponent half because the seem to have no clue how to build from the back in that game.
Did see it in the previous games..what surprised me was how well Norwich planned and excuted based on that observation...

I think Stoke gone to far left, with the knock. Now they ain't bringing no air cross at all.not playing to KJ strength...not that he not strong in the knock, but the knock is not where he will dominate opposing defenders. Walters have shares in this team?

Almost gone from a one dimensional team to a different one dimensional team

And Hughes just stuck with it right thru, could have changed it up at the half..
On the positive side, they will get very good at it eventually, if they don't fall into the relegation zone before..

Agreed. Norwich force them to be hapless. The high pressure meant that they had to pass quickly and they just weren't up for it. If you give them time, they can knock it around. I expect they will see the same thing a lot over the next few weeks until they figure out how to overcome it (or get relegated)

I was surprised that Hughes didn't go more direct to try to get the result, but I'm sure he had his reasons.

Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 30, 2013, 11:01:50 AM
I think Hughes just hates that type of ball and doesn't ever want to have to resort to it.  They will learn by force to be quicker becauseother teams will try and execute the same game plan as Norwich did.  Have to hand it to Norwich doh because they really made it extra difficult for Stoke to do anything with the ball.
Title: Crystal Palace v Fulham
Post by: Blue on October 21, 2013, 01:22:34 PM
Anyone just see that golaso by Kasami?  :o :o :o

Wilshere Kasami for goal of the season  :beermug:

BBC's description of the goal on Live Text:

"My word...."
Title: Re: Crystal Palace v Fulham
Post by: Bitter on October 21, 2013, 01:58:36 PM
Two great strikes by Fulham, but I still have to give Wilshere goal the edge. So many things happen there.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1660yw_arsenal-vs-norwich-4-1-goals-highlights_sport
Title: Re: Crystal Palace v Fulham
Post by: Blue on October 21, 2013, 02:38:40 PM
Two great strikes by Fulham, but I still have to give Wilshere goal the edge. So many things happen there.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1660yw_arsenal-vs-norwich-4-1-goals-highlights_sport


Tweet from Jack Wilshere after Kasami's goal:

Jack Wilshere ‏@JackWilshere: Well there's my 'goal of the month' prize gone!!!! Take a bow! #Player #MNF

The goal:
http://www.youtube.com/v/7KbICzi78no
Title: Re: Crystal Palace v Fulham
Post by: Bakes on October 21, 2013, 03:08:45 PM
Maxi-esque...
Title: Re: 2012/13 Premier League (EPL) Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on October 21, 2013, 04:34:47 PM
Two great strikes by Fulham, but I still have to give Wilshere goal the edge. So many things happen there.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1660yw_arsenal-vs-norwich-4-1-goals-highlights_sport


Tweet from Jack Wilshere after Kasami's goal:

Jack Wilshere ‏@JackWilshere: Well there's my 'goal of the month' prize gone!!!! Take a bow! #Player #MNF

The goal:
http://www.youtube.com/v/7KbICzi78no


Respect Jackie boy! Ramsey have a horse in this race too.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on October 21, 2013, 10:32:42 PM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/10/21/Fulham.gif)
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on October 27, 2013, 11:41:06 AM
Spurs just get a gift from the Ref.

That was no penalty!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on November 02, 2013, 09:19:30 AM
14 seconds

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x16pq1t_goal-stoke-1-0-southampton-02-11-2013-highlights_sport?start=30
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on November 02, 2013, 11:02:19 AM
Man City have no pity out there boy
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on November 10, 2013, 07:19:32 AM
Krul is having a hell of a game today.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on November 10, 2013, 10:41:04 AM
Van Persie poisons his old club again.

1-0 Man Utd.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on November 25, 2013, 04:33:48 PM
AVB getting make out faster than Reshmi...

http://www.youtube.com/v/lC-XxeMal2c
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on November 25, 2013, 05:01:51 PM
Moyes real handle he boy Fellaini yes! Man is the same rank sh*thong he was at Everton, except with a bigger contract. Best United stick to Jones at defensive midfield oui!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on November 25, 2013, 10:24:53 PM
Allyuh see Soldado's heat map from that game? All over the center circle, real kicks.

Tootsenham real disappoint meh so far, they have some nice players but AVB like he not up to it.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on December 01, 2013, 07:16:33 AM
Every time Spurs get a goal, they decide to give it back to United.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Fyzoman on December 01, 2013, 07:46:17 PM
Golazo from Sandro today.

Ah like Defoe but how pulling rank come een dat, Walker score ah bess goal yet he come on with some out-ah-timing freekick and hit de damn wall.

Before Walker take he free kick, when Howard and the other announcer talking bout setting up the wall I thinking bout the 'ol Ronanldhino and how he score the free when the wall jump...sure enough Manu wall jump and Walker score yes:)

I didn't know Tim Howard use to announce games, kinda cool to get insights/views from ah man who currently plays against the men commenting on.

What de hell Ashley Young does do for Manu jed?? Steups!!!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on December 14, 2013, 04:58:56 PM
This is a bit of a shocker...

   
West Bromwich Albion sack manager Steve Clarke after defeat at Cardiff

• Defeat at Cardiff was the Baggies' fourth loss in a row
• 1-0 reverse left West Brom 16th in the league


West Brom sacked their head coach, Steve Clarke, on Saturday night after a 1-0 defeat at Cardiff that was the Premier League club's fourth loss in a row and left them in 16th place.

Clarke's side had won only one of their last 10 games. They are just two points above the relegation zone.

A statement on the West Brom website said the club had "this evening relieved head coach Steve Clarke of his duties and placed him on gardening leave with immediate effect". It continued: "This was the unanimous decision of the club's board of directors following a disappointing performance throughout 2013.

"Albion have won only seven of their 34 Premier League games during the calendar year – a 20% win rate yielding a total of only 31 points – despite a substantial investment in the first-team squad."

If Clarke had an inkling he was about to be sacked, he did not let on in the immediate aftermath of the match in Cardiff. "We created some chances as we normally do," said Clarke. "At the moment things aren't quite going for us.

"We have to work harder and hope we get a lucky break or that somebody does something fantastic. There is no magic formula or wand."

It will be a new manager in charge for West Brom's game against Hull next weekend, however, with joint-assistant head coach Keith Downing installed to lead the team on a caretaker basis. The club said that Downing will assume control of first-team affairs while the club "considers all available options for a new head coach".

The sporting and technical director, Richard Garlick, said: "We have reluctantly come to the decision to relieve Steve of his duties after very careful consideration.

"It has been well documented that we have not had the rub of the green in certain games this season but that does not cloud the generally disappointing points return during this calendar year, culminating in today's fourth successive defeat at Cardiff.

"This club's track record proves we do not take such decisions lightly, having only enforced a change in this position three times in approximately 14 years.

"But with key games coming thick and fast, we felt it was important we acted now to give the club the best possible chance of a successful outcome this season. Our player wage bill is the highest in the club's history and we feel we have built a squad capable of being very competitive in the Premier League."

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/14/west-bromwich-albion-sack-steve-clarke
Title: Andre Villas-Boas: Tottenham sack manager
Post by: Tallman on December 16, 2013, 06:37:02 AM
Andre Villas-Boas: Tottenham sack manager
BBC Sport


Tottenham have sacked manager Andre Villas-Boas in the wake of Sunday's 5-0 thrashing by Liverpool.

The defeat was the club's worst at White Hart Lane in 16 years and left Spurs seventh in the Premier League - eight points behind leaders Arsenal.

Villas-Boas, 36, took over at Tottenham in July 2012.

"The club can announce that agreement has been reached with head coach Andre Villas-Boas for the termination of his services," said a Spurs statement.

"The decision was by mutual consent and in the interests of all parties."

Villas-Boas was dismissed by Chelsea in March 2012 after just over eight months in charge at Stamford Bridge, and he was hoping to rebuild his reputation at Tottenham,

But he had come under increasing pressure in recent weeks as his side struggled to keep pace with the top four in the league.

His side lost 6-0 to Manchester City on 24 November and, despite a draw against Manchester United and wins at Fulham and Sunderland, the defeat by Liverpool proved the final straw for the Spurs hierarchy.

Villas-Boas said he would not "resign" as he was not a "quitter" after the loss to the Reds but, after being summoned to a meeting with Spurs chairman Daniel Levy on Sunday, his future was taken out of his hands.

"We wish Andre well for the future," added the Spurs statement. "We shall make a further announcement in due course."

The early names being linked with replacing the Portuguese include current Russia boss and former England manager Fabio Capello, ex-Chelsea boss Roberto Di Matteo, Swansea boss Michael Laudrup and
Tottenham's current technical director Franco Baldini.

Former Tottenham playmaker and ex-England boss Glenn Hoddle has also been mentioned as a contender.

Former Spurs striker and BBC presenter Gary Lineker tweeted:  "Would love to see Glenn Hoddle given another chance at this level. Has a brilliant football mind."

Italian Baldini, 53, helped oversee the club's transfer dealings during last summer when the club had to contend with the sale of Gareth Bale to Real Madrid for a world record £85.3m.

Bale scored 21 goals last season as Spurs finished a point behind fourth-placed Arsenal to miss out on Champions League qualification.

Tottenham recruited Paulinho, Roberto Soldado, Nacer Chadli, Etienne Capoue, Christian Eriksen, Vlad Chiriches and Erik Lamela with the money from the sale of the Wales international but the team has been unconvincing so far this season.

Villas-Boas had only managed one win from his previous six home league games, with his side scoring just 15 goals in 16 top-flight matches.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 16, 2013, 10:29:29 AM
No surprise with AVB axing.  Just last night me and a bredrin was saying it was imminent.  That high defensive line bs did him in again.  Not sure why he sticks with it even when he lacks ultra speedy defensive players to execute it effectively.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on December 16, 2013, 11:59:07 AM
Feel kinda bad for him, reputation in tatters now.  There'll still be room for him in the Prem but I don't see him getting another top-flight opportunity anytime soon.  One also has to wonder whether his age and lack of playing experience costing him any respect in the locker room.  On a veteran team like Chelsea I could see that, but Spurs not that old and more importantly, haven't won shit.  It begs the question though.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 16, 2013, 01:31:38 PM
Feel kinda bad for him, reputation in tatters now.  There'll still be room for him in the Prem but I don't see him getting another top-flight opportunity anytime soon.  One also has to wonder whether his age and lack of playing experience costing him any respect in the locker room.  On a veteran team like Chelsea I could see that, but Spurs not that old and more importantly, haven't won shit.  It begs the question though.

Well his interpersonal skills and general man management off the pitch is questionable.  At Chelsea he polarized himself by ostracizing Nico who was one of the players everyone on the team loved as well as Alex even banning them from attending the Christmas party.  After that his fate was sealed because not only was his tactics not suited to the personnel on the pitch but he was a total asshole off it.  This ensured that the players would not give their all for him which naturally affects results.  Don't know what happened at Spurs but I find it hard to understand their poor play and goal ratio.  I doh ever feel sorry fuh millionaires that get fired nah lol.  He will get another job at lower level clubs for sure if he decide to take it, but that big club scenes dead now.  He might be on the shelf like DiMateo for a bit.  Imagine if they offer DiMateo the job and he rights the ship (for a second time).  Not only would that give RDM much more credibility and clout to attract big jobs but it would totally relegate AVB to the role of posturer and would likely destroy whatever shred of benefit his time at Porto helped to achieve.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on December 16, 2013, 04:42:25 PM
Well his interpersonal skills and general man management off the pitch is questionable.  At Chelsea he polarized himself by ostracizing Nico who was one of the players everyone on the team loved as well as Alex even banning them from attending the Christmas party.  After that his fate was sealed because not only was his tactics not suited to the personnel on the pitch but he was a total asshole off it.  This ensured that the players would not give their all for him which naturally affects results.  Don't know what happened at Spurs but I find it hard to understand their poor play and goal ratio.  I doh ever feel sorry fuh millionaires that get fired nah lol.  He will get another job at lower level clubs for sure if he decide to take it, but that big club scenes dead now.  He might be on the shelf like DiMateo for a bit.  Imagine if they offer DiMateo the job and he rights the ship (for a second time).  Not only would that give RDM much more credibility and clout to attract big jobs but it would totally relegate AVB to the role of posturer and would likely destroy whatever shred of benefit his time at Porto helped to achieve.

Ah forget about that whole Alex/Anelka Christmas party thing... I too thought that was some bullshit... definitely questionable.  And yeah, I liked DiMatteo, would love to see him come to Spurs and succeed... if only to spit in Roman eye lol
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on December 16, 2013, 05:05:22 PM
would love to see him come to Spurs and succeed... if only to spit in Roman eye lol

I second this....and I'sa chelsea fan ......Roman too f**kup
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: g on December 16, 2013, 05:05:55 PM
From what i've read Villas-Boas is an excellent tactician but a poor man manager and if so, he will continue to struggle with top tier teams. Will make an excellent assistant coach though.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 17, 2013, 11:07:32 AM
From what i've read Villas-Boas is an excellent tactician but a poor man manager and if so, he will continue to struggle with top tier teams. Will make an excellent assistant coach though.

He need to realize that despite being manager some players command more attention from both the players as well as upper management than he ever will because of their skill level and relevant importance to the franchises.  Not saying no man bigger than the team but if yuh illtreat popular locker room players then yuh settin up fuh disaster!

BnS I always felt RDM get a real raw deal, I would love to see him come in and succeed as well.  For the life of me I can't remember any other EUFA CL winning coach not getting looks the way it happens with him.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on December 19, 2013, 04:28:14 PM
Including Wenger, the longevity average for managers in the BPL is 1.91 years. Heard this figure on the BBC.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on December 19, 2013, 09:23:55 PM

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December 19, 2013
Some of Hottest Seats in Sports Belong to Premier League Coaches

By JOHN F. BURNS

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LONDON — After André Villas-Boas became the fifth soccer manager to lose his job in the 20-team Premier League this season, The Daily Mail offered a salutation to Tim Sherwood, who was named this week to replace him at Tottenham Hotspur on an interim basis as the club hunts for a big-name successor.

“Welcome to the madhouse,” the newspaper said.

The admonition was not only for Spurs, who have fired eight managers in the past 12 years. A total of 195 managers have been fired or hastened into resignation since the Premier League began play in 1992, on the way to becoming the financial juggernaut of European sports, with nearly $5 billion in total club revenue in the past three playing seasons alone.

What has become known in Britain as the managerial carousel extends even further, across the 92 clubs that make up the top four divisions of English soccer, including the Premier League. According to organizations that track the firings, those clubs have since 1996 racked up more than 800 firings among head coaches and managers. (In Britain, the terms are interchangeable, referring to posts whose occupants run a team’s on-field operations.)

For soccer fans, 1996 has become a benchmark for the type of hand-wringing that has accompanied the Villas-Boas firing. That was the year Arsène Wenger arrived in England. Now 64, Wenger, with 17 years at the helm of another London club, Arsenal, is the longest-serving manager in the Premier League and a counterpoint to the revolving door of management that prevails at many other clubs. After several lean years, Arsenal is at the top of the Premier League standings, followed closely by Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester City.

The frequency with which clubs dismiss managers has been enough to prompt British betting companies to offer odds on who is likely to be gone next. There are websites, too, dedicated to the topic, including one, the Sack Race, that collects and posts odds offered by various betting organizations.

Wenger, at 100-1, is a joint favorite to survive in his job. He shared that position with Roberto Martínez, a Spaniard who is in his first, highly successful year as manager of Everton. David Moyes, the longtime previous manager of Everton, which is based in Liverpool, left to take over for Alex Ferguson, the longest-serving manager in the history of top-flight soccer in Britain, when he stepped down after more than 26 years at Manchester United.

Since the Villas-Boas firing, the sports pages of British newspapers have been rife with speculation on other likely Premier League dismissals, with subjects including the managers of at least six other clubs that are fighting to avoid a bottom-three finish in the league and relegation to the second tier of English soccer, known as the Championship. With relegation comes the loss of $150 million to $200 million a year, the share of television revenue that goes to each Premier League club.

Tracking the fortunes of managers has become almost as much of a pastime among soccer fans as the game itself. In the case of Villas-Boas, and other recent firings, television cameras have focused on the often haunted looks on the faces of managers thought to be doomed. Supporters of opposing teams fill the role of Madame Defarge at the guillotine, improvising mocking chants that foreshadow a manager’s dismissal. One common component is a warning to expect a P45 form, the equivalent of a pink slip in the United States.

In lamenting the dismissals, managers and soccer commentators often blame the culture of impatience that has blossomed as the financial stakes in top-flight soccer have grown. The new generation of billionaire club owners, many of them foreigners who have supplanted community-based owners, is another easy target, though on that issue there have been opposing opinions.

Owners like Roman Abramovich, a Russian, and Sheik Mansour bin Zayed al-Nahyan, of Abu Dhabi, have invested billion-dollar sums in Chelsea and Manchester City, turning the clubs into title chasers in English and European competition while gaining notoriety for firing managers who falter. Roberto Mancini of Manchester City was fired last season, a year after the club won the Premier League and two years after it won the F.A. Cup; Roberto Di Matteo got his P45 within months of winning the European Champions League title with Chelsea.

But other owners have stuck with managers through meager times. The American Stan Kroenke, the majority shareholder of Arsenal, has backed Wenger strongly even as the club has not won a trophy of any kind since 2005. Members of the American Glazer family, who have owned Manchester United since 2005, were stolid supporters of Ferguson and have backed Moyes, even though the club has slipped to eighth in the Premier League, 10 points behind Arsenal, after Moyes’s first few months.

Moyes was one of many prominent people in soccer who sympathized with Villas-Boas.

“The best clubs have had stability over the years,” he said, citing Wenger, Ferguson and his own 11 years at Everton. Grasping that, he said, might mean that clubs would not be “hiring and firing managers so often.”

Mark Hughes, fired at Manchester City and Fulham, and now manager at Stoke City, which is struggling in the Premier League this year, concurred.

“It just seems now that it’s all too easy to change coaches and managers, and it’s a shame,” he said.

Gary Neville, a former Manchester United captain who has built a career as a television analyst, was scathing. Referring to Villas-Boas’s problems in forming a coherent performance out of $175 million in new signings for the 2013 season, he wrote on Twitter: “Had to incorporate seven new players, which takes time! Rubbish! Let him finish his work! Prime ministers and presidents get 4/5 years for a reason.”

A former protégé of José Mourinho’s during his first stint as Chelsea manager, from 2004 to 2007, Villas-Boas had a Tottenham record that was statistically unmatched, winning more than 50 percent of all games in the 18 months he was in charge. When he was fired, the club was seventh in the Premier League, 2 points ahead of Manchester United. But a run of crushing defeats against the top clubs, including a 5-0 drubbing by Liverpool at Spurs’ White Hart Lane last Saturday, proved his undoing.

It seemed unlikely that Villas-Boas’s plight would stir much chagrin from the 2.4 million Britons who are unemployed. Villas-Boas is reported to have received a $6.5 million payoff from Spurs, on top of a $20 million payoff when he was fired by Chelsea in 2012. That, too, might be viewed by many soccer fans as something fit for the madhouse.

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Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on December 22, 2013, 01:01:58 AM
This AVB sacking did not rest on man management issues.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 23, 2013, 01:31:46 PM
This AVB sacking did not rest on man management issues.

I don't think anyone said it did.  there is the possiblity however, that it may have played an inderect role as it would have the consequence of affecting team performance.  Despite that high defensive line he loves and how it exposes the defense, the lack of scoring was glaring. 
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on December 23, 2013, 01:53:05 PM
Beginning with this past weekend... 4 games in 10 days... murder!  This is the championship right here in a nutshell.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Cocorite on December 26, 2013, 12:18:27 PM
What a half between Man City & Liverpool

Ooh Guude

End tuh end ball

Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on December 28, 2013, 10:02:54 AM
Why Tottenham didn't bring Chris Hughton back? Anyone know if they consider him?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: MEP on December 28, 2013, 11:45:41 AM
Why Tottenham didn't bring Chris Hughton back? Anyone know if they consider him?

Bring him back to ensure relegation????

Malky Makay should have been given at least a season he had the right plan and right ideas but a Tun Tun for an owner
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on December 28, 2013, 12:04:47 PM
Why Tottenham didn't bring Chris Hughton back? Anyone know if they consider him?

Bring him back to ensure relegation????

Malky Makay should have been given at least a season he had the right plan and right ideas but a Tun Tun for an owner

Makay might end up at West Brom before long.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on December 28, 2013, 03:40:53 PM
Why Tottenham didn't bring Chris Hughton back? Anyone know if they consider him?

Bring him back to ensure relegation????

Malky Makay should have been given at least a season he had the right plan and right ideas but a Tun Tun for an owner

Nah, With the quality of players at Tottenham, I am sure he will prosper. Looking at Norwich against Man United this morning, it's amazing what he can do with that bunch of laborers. Norwich build up and creativity to enter the penalty area was superb. They even forced Man united to settle for arbitrary crosses into the box.

Really like this guy. Reminds me of Martinez.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on January 06, 2014, 03:22:45 PM
This AVB sacking did not rest on man management issues.

I don't think anyone said it did.  there is the possiblity however, that it may have played an inderect role as it would have the consequence of affecting team performance.  Despite that high defensive line he loves and how it exposes the defense, the lack of scoring was glaring.

:rotfl: You certainly spent some opinion dangling on that speculative ledge.

Well his interpersonal skills and general man management off the pitch is questionable.  At Chelsea he polarized himself by ostracizing Nico who was one of the players everyone on the team loved as well as Alex even banning them from attending the Christmas party.  After that his fate was sealed because not only was his tactics not suited to the personnel on the pitch but he was a total asshole off it.  This ensured that the players would not give their all for him which naturally affects results.  Don't know what happened at Spurs but I find it hard to understand their poor play and goal ratio.  I doh ever feel sorry fuh millionaires that get fired nah lol.  He will get another job at lower level clubs for sure if he decide to take it, but that big club scenes dead now.  He might be on the shelf like DiMateo for a bit.  Imagine if they offer DiMateo the job and he rights the ship (for a second time).  Not only would that give RDM much more credibility and clout to attract big jobs but it would totally relegate AVB to the role of posturer and would likely destroy whatever shred of benefit his time at Porto helped to achieve.

There has been a lot of discussion in England on AVB's sacking ... and several parties at the center of AVB's coaching hierarchy attest to there having being a prominent level of harmony in the squad. The disgruntled exception mentioned being a Togolese baller named Emmanuel Adebayor. His contribution didn't rise to an untenable level of creating dressing room chaos.

Spot on regarding there being a tactical/results concern. Some have stated that even a less polarizing loss would have kept him in the job.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on January 06, 2014, 03:55:35 PM
asy why yuh ignore the most key sentence fella? "Don't know what happened at Spurs but I find it hard to understand their poor play and goal ratio."

This whole scenes rell funny because despite the (-1) attrotious goal differential they are only 2 points removed from a champions league spot.  Outside of that they aren't in a bad position and was not in any real jeapordy of not being able to compete for a top 4 finish at the time of AVBs dismissal.  Levy is ah asshole doh so I hope they sink to about 9th place so they doh even get Europa as a consolation lol
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on January 06, 2014, 04:24:11 PM
asy why yuh ignore the most key sentence fella? "Don't know what happened at Spurs but I find it hard to understand their poor play and goal ratio."

This whole scenes rell funny because despite the (-1) attrotious goal differential they are only 2 points removed from a champions league spot.  Outside of that they aren't in a bad position and was not in any real jeapordy of not being able to compete for a top 4 finish at the time of AVBs dismissal.  Levy is ah asshole doh so I hope they sink to about 9th place so they doh even get Europa as a consolation lol

Pardna, I eh ignore nutten.:beermug: Like yuh eh make out that sentence is highlighted in my post. And, I highlighted it in its entirety because it pointed back to you musing about man management and personnel discontent as a contributing factor to "their poor play and goal ratio".

Detaching or underlining the phrase isn't gehhin to what you were communicating in full.

Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on January 07, 2014, 11:20:22 AM
asy why yuh ignore the most key sentence fella? "Don't know what happened at Spurs but I find it hard to understand their poor play and goal ratio."

This whole scenes rell funny because despite the (-1) attrotious goal differential they are only 2 points removed from a champions league spot.  Outside of that they aren't in a bad position and was not in any real jeapordy of not being able to compete for a top 4 finish at the time of AVBs dismissal.  Levy is ah asshole doh so I hope they sink to about 9th place so they doh even get Europa as a consolation lol

Pardna, I eh ignore nutten.:beermug: Like yuh eh make out that sentence is highlighted in my post. And, I highlighted it in its entirety because it pointed back to you musing about man management and personnel discontent as a contributing factor to "their poor play and goal ratio".

Detaching or underlining the phrase isn't gehhin to what you were communicating in full.



Nah I was talking about what happened while he was with my team.  That is why I concluded that by saying "don't know....."  And I didn't connect it to Spurs because had I wanted to do that my statement would have more likely been "I sure is dat wha causing their poor play and goal ratio."  Instead I elected to show that it is confusing to me why it was happening there.  You can infer a direct connection but my wording completely negates that thought. 

Meh 5 year Jr. Sec education (as some disrespectful suckas here does class St. Anthony's) does come een handy from time to time lol
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on January 07, 2014, 12:00:28 PM
Yuh couldna gone to school wid Dutty.  :devil:
Title: Who needs a striker?
Post by: Tallman on January 07, 2014, 07:20:36 PM
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Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on January 09, 2014, 12:47:31 AM
Someone's up late writing Big Sam's resignation.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on January 12, 2014, 11:14:24 AM
Roberto Martinez ..........Everton playin some nice ball, and showin dey self to be contenders dis season..............seems like he finally found a good fit after Swansea .........to come from fightin relegation one season with one side to being in contention for a CL spot or even challengin for d prem is a hell of a feet............incredible  :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

edit: makes one wonder even harder bout moyes though
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on January 12, 2014, 12:45:08 PM
Roberto Martinez ..........Everton playin some nice ball, and showin dey self to be contenders dis season..............seems like he finally found a good fit after Swansea .........to come from fightin relegation one season with one side to being in contention for a CL spot or even challengin for d prem is a hell of a feet............incredible  :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

edit: makes one wonder even harder bout moyes though

How does that make one wonder about Moyes?  Did Moyes have Lukaku scoring goals for him last season?  James McCarthy solidifying the defense (14th starts so far) Gareth Barry bossing the midfield (15 starts so far)?  A threatening wing player like Deulofeu?


All credit to Martinez, he's more of an attack-minded manager, but it's never as simple as comparing last season's performances against this (true for both Everton and United).  Martinez has the right players to fit his system, but without Lukaku on loan their next highest scorer is Seamus Coleman in defense.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on January 12, 2014, 01:25:41 PM
nah bakes mih point is..................while everton held their own through moyes 11 or so years they were never really "up there" and even if yuh want to argue personnel, moyes had freedom to build he team same way.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on January 12, 2014, 01:54:55 PM
nah bakes mih point is..................while everton held their own through moyes 11 or so years they were never really "up there" and even if yuh want to argue personnel, moyes had freedom to build he team same way.

How could your point be about them never really being "up there" when is Moyes yuh specifically talking about?  That is a veiled, if not direct shot at his achievements compared to Martinez'.  As for him having the "freedom to build he team same way," where you get that from?  Allyuh now start to watch Everton or what?  Moyes was always working with little, yuh can't have freedom to build if yuh doh have money to buy.  Here's Everton's gross outlay in the transfer market the last five years under Moyes:

2008/09- €25.076.000
2009/10- €23.300.000
2010/11- €1.700.000
2011/12- €7.200.000
2012/13- €21.650.000

This season under Martinez they've already spent €31.800.000, and that's just half a season, not counting any activity to come here in January.

So in one summer they've spent more money for Martinez than they've spent in the last 5 years under Moyes.  I always like to read these criticism of Moyes, it just shows how unfamiliar people are with the job he did keeping Everton competitive against stacked odds.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on January 12, 2014, 02:03:02 PM
Martinez is a boss.   I hope some of that acumen rubs off on our boy DL.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on January 12, 2014, 04:35:42 PM
nah bakes mih point is..................while everton held their own through moyes 11 or so years they were never really "up there" and even if yuh want to argue personnel, moyes had freedom to build he team same way.

How could your point be about them never really being "up there" when is Moyes yuh specifically talking about?  That is a veiled, if not direct shot at his achievements compared to Martinez'.  As for him having the "freedom to build he team same way," where you get that from?  Allyuh now start to watch Everton or what?  Moyes was always working with little, yuh can't have freedom to build if yuh doh have money to buy.  Here's Everton's gross outlay in the transfer market the last five years under Moyes:

2008/09- €25.076.000
2009/10- €23.300.000
2010/11- €1.700.000
2011/12- €7.200.000
2012/13- €21.650.000

This season under Martinez they've already spent €31.800.000, and that's just half a season, not counting any activity to come here in January.

So in one summer they've spent more money for Martinez than they've spent in the last 5 years under Moyes.  I always like to read these criticism of Moyes, it just shows how unfamiliar people are with the job he did keeping Everton competitive against stacked odds.

ok.....so....everton has new owners\investors then, that came in after moyes and giving martinez more resources ??? ......and I am not trying to belittle d man achievements but the difference is amazing....really really amazing
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on January 12, 2014, 07:49:09 PM
ok.....so....everton has new owners\investors then, that came in after moyes and giving martinez more resources ??? ......and I am not trying to belittle d man achievements but the difference is amazing....really really amazing

Same owners... they just wasn't serious about spending money to improve the club.  These jokers thought getting Donovan was a coup.  I have tremendous respect for Moyes, separate from anything he's doing at United.  The man is a good tactical manager, but he knew he never had the horses for a title run, so he relied on a solide defense and a cautious approach in attack.  He still hasn't abandoned that policy, maybe due to personality... maybe because he recognizes the lack of quality in the squad.  I dunno, I'll leave that to those who have expertise in dem kinda things.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on January 12, 2014, 08:22:59 PM
ok.....so....everton has new owners\investors then, that came in after moyes and giving martinez more resources ??? ......and I am not trying to belittle d man achievements but the difference is amazing....really really amazing

Same owners... they just wasn't serious about spending money to improve the club.  These jokers thought getting Donovan was a coup.  I have tremendous respect for Moyes, separate from anything he's doing at United.  The man is a good tactical manager, but he knew he never had the horses for a title run, so he relied on a solide defense and a cautious approach in attack.  He still hasn't abandoned that policy, maybe due to personality... maybe because he recognizes the lack of quality in the squad.  I dunno, I'll leave that to those who have expertise in dem kinda things.

ah ok cool............tanks for the info........maybe we'll see what he really has once he builds his own team at Man U
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on January 18, 2014, 08:19:23 AM
This Sunderland - Southampton game turned into a good contest.
Gotta love the relegation threat to up the intensity of a match.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tiresais on January 18, 2014, 08:24:12 AM
I think Moyes is quite limited sadly; I'd love him to succeed, but it proves the cautionary tale about letting managers picking their own successors - being a Grand National-winning horse doesn't qualify you to design tracks.

Big clubs seem to need either bigger egos than the players or strict discipline, so that the manager remains the top-dog in the dressing room. Not sure Moyes has either.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on January 18, 2014, 08:31:42 AM
How does Wes Brown not even get a foul call against him on that tackle?
That was a yellow card for sure.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on January 18, 2014, 11:37:07 AM
Did anyone see Cardiff equalizer today and city 4th goal?

Quality.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tallman on January 30, 2014, 06:41:10 AM
Revealed! PL’s Top 10 highest paid players: Rooney's new deal to make him no.1?

http://talksport.com/football/revealed-pls-top-10-highest-paid-players-rooneys-new-deal-make-him-no1-14012877518
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on January 30, 2014, 12:20:20 PM
Revealed! PL’s Top 10 highest paid players: Rooney's new deal to make him no.1?

http://talksport.com/football/revealed-pls-top-10-highest-paid-players-rooneys-new-deal-make-him-no1-14012877518


How much of that money do they actually get or are those numbers only taxable?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Football supporter on January 30, 2014, 12:27:44 PM
Revealed! PL’s Top 10 highest paid players: Rooney's new deal to make him no.1?

http://talksport.com/football/revealed-pls-top-10-highest-paid-players-rooneys-new-deal-make-him-no1-14012877518


How much of that money do they actually get or are those numbers only taxable?

Usually, it's 50% tax, but there are ways to mitigate some of the tax bills.
Title: Swansea have decided to fire manager Michael Laudrup
Post by: Tallman on February 04, 2014, 02:02:09 PM
Swansea have decided to fire manager Michael Laudrup
Sky Sports


Manager Michael Laudrup has been sacked by Swansea after defeat to West Ham on Saturday left the club just two points clear of the drop zone.

A club statement read: "Swansea City and manager Michael Laudrup have tonight parted company.

"Garry Monk will take up the reigns as head coach alongside current first team coach Alan Curtis for the foreseeable future.

"The club will be making no further comment at this stage, but will endeavour to keep our supporters updated with any future development."

Chairman Huw Jenkins added: "It is a decision we have taken reluctantly.

"But it's a decision made in the best interests of Swansea City Football Club and our supporters. It is the first time in nearly 10 years that the club has parted with a manager in this way, but we had to remove the constant uncertainty surrounding the club and Michael's long-term future with us.

"I had a meeting with Michael today in a final attempt to support him and establish a way to improve the work of the backroom team to secure the results we need over the final 14 Premier League games.

"However, after thinking long and hard about the best way forward, I felt it was unlikely we would achieve a stable environment at the club to allow us to get back to basics and produce the performance levels that have served Swansea City so well over the last few years.

"Now we need to put that uncertainty behind us and move forward as a united football club on all fronts, while placing on record our gratitude to Michael for the work he has done over the last 18 months and wish him well for the future.''

"I hope all our supporters can fully understand how difficult this period has been for us and I would urge everyone connected to the football club to get behind Garry Monk, the staff and players.''
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: kev on February 04, 2014, 03:51:59 PM
Revealed! PL’s Top 10 highest paid players: Rooney's new deal to make him no.1?

http://talksport.com/football/revealed-pls-top-10-highest-paid-players-rooneys-new-deal-make-him-no1-14012877518


How much of that money do they actually get or are those numbers only taxable?


A lot is made up of "Image Rights" etc., although it puts them in the 50% tax bracket the reality is somewhat different as most will be Ltd companies and won't pay anything like that with various other ways of dodging tax, sorry meant to say reducing tax bill.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on February 04, 2014, 07:07:57 PM
Sacking Laudrup is craziness.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tiresais on February 05, 2014, 03:15:11 AM
Sacking Laudrup is craziness.

Agreed, he looked the business...
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on February 05, 2014, 08:15:58 AM
Sacking Laudrup is craziness.

Apparently he and the board fell out before the season started. I don't think it is a performance issue. Man 5 best players injured. There must be recognition of that.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on February 05, 2014, 08:35:05 AM
Swansea's position on the table is deceptive. They've managed to scramble some points here and there but they've been performing terribly ever since the second half of last season. Their general form in that period is among the worst in the league.

Laudrup has been falling out with players, falling out with the chairman. There is a serious lack of harmony behind the scenes and, from what I can tell, Laudrup might be the culprit. I guess they decided to stop the bleeding somehow and see if they could hold strain until next season.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 05, 2014, 11:50:40 AM
Swansea's position on the table is deceptive. They've managed to scramble some points here and there but they've been performing terribly ever since the second half of last season. Their general form in that period is among the worst in the league.

Laudrup has been falling out with players, falling out with the chairman. There is a serious lack of harmony behind the scenes and, from what I can tell, Laudrup might be the culprit. I guess they decided to stop the bleeding somehow and see if they could hold strain until next season.

Supposedly, the last straw that broke the camel's back was Laudrup giving the players two days off after last weekend's loss and jetting off to Paris for a holiday.  They say no rules exist at the club: man drinking for most of their summer trips, no curfew, nothing.  He look like he signed off long time, and was just waiting for the axe.  I could see him at Spurs though.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on February 05, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
Swansea's position on the table is deceptive. They've managed to scramble some points here and there but they've been performing terribly ever since the second half of last season. Their general form in that period is among the worst in the league.

Laudrup has been falling out with players, falling out with the chairman. There is a serious lack of harmony behind the scenes and, from what I can tell, Laudrup might be the culprit. I guess they decided to stop the bleeding somehow and see if they could hold strain until next season.

Supposedly, the last straw that broke the camel's back was Laudrup giving the players two days off after last weekend's loss and jetting off to Paris for a holiday.  They say no rules exist at the club: man drinking for most of their summer trips, no curfew, nothing.  He look like he signed off long time, and was just waiting for the axe.  I could see him at Spurs though.

Hope not.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tiresais on February 15, 2014, 06:48:35 AM
Fulham hire Felix Magath after 'sacking' Rene Meulensteen
BBC News


Rene Meulensteen has been replaced as Fulham manager by former Bayern Munich coach Felix Magath.

The Dutchman, who succeeded the sacked Martin Jol in December, told BBC Sport that he had been fired but he remains under contract at Fulham.

Meulensteen, who won four of 17 games in charge, told BBC Sport: "They have hit the panic button on emotion and fear - but hey ho, that's football."

He was not mentioned in a club statement  announcing Magath's arrival.

Fulham chairman Shahid Khan said: "With 12 matches remaining, we certainly can no longer post empty results. Action was required."

Magath, 60, has signed an 18-month contract at Fulham, who are bottom of the Premier League. He has won the Bundesliga three times as a manager, most recently with Wolfsburg in 2009, and is the first German to manage in the Premier League.

In a statement on his Facebook page,  he said: "This amazing club, steeped in tradition, and its owner Shahid Khan have totally convinced me and given me the managerial responsibility.
"I would like to thank the club and the owner for this faith."

Meulensteen coached at Old Trafford for 12 years under former Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson and had 16 days in charge of Russian club Anzhi Makhachkala last August.

He guided Fulham to a 2-2 draw at Old Trafford on Sunday but the Cottagers were beaten by a last-minute penalty as they lost 3-2 to Liverpool in midweek.

Speaking to BBC Radio 5 live, Meulensteen said: "I knew the owners were freaking out a little bit that there was the possibility of the club going down.

"The way forward that we have discussed with the club was about longevity and in this case it is clearly an act of fear.

"I have not had a lot of time and people who came to the Manchester United and Liverpool games could see what I was trying to put in place.

"I couldn't care less what they put in the statement, to be honest."

Meulensteen won three Premier League games and one FA Cup tie while in charge at Craven Cottage, losing 10 times. On transfer deadline day he signed five players, including Greece international striker Konstantinos Mitroglou from Olympiakos for about £11m and Tottenham midfielder Lewis Holtby on loan.

German Magath has been out of work since leaving Wolfsburg in 2012 but won the double twice with Bayern, adding a third Bundesliga title with Wolfsburg in 2009.

That Wolfsburg side featured Manchester City striker Edin Dzeko and current Fulham pair Ashkan Dejagah and Sascha Riether.

Khan added: "Felix is an accomplished manager with multiple honours in the Bundesliga and a hunger to replicate his success with Fulham in the Premier League.

"I'm especially impressed with the reputation Felix has for coming into clubs at difficult times, often late in the season, and lifting them to their potential and beyond.

"Felix knows that is precisely the task awaiting him at Fulham, and he made it abundantly clear that he wants and is ready for the opportunity.

"Our club has shown promise in recent matches, but the fact is we have not won a league match since 1 January. Given our form, we can no longer merely hope that our fortunes will finally turn."

Magath is likely to meet the backroom staff, including Alan Curbishley and Ray Wilkins, to discuss a way forward on Sunday.

Fulham, whose next game is at 17th-placed West Brom on Saturday 22 February, said that an announcement on their backroom staff will be made in the near future.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 04, 2014, 06:56:18 PM
Quote
“He was right on top of me and I wanted to just ease him away from me but obviously I put my head in a forward motion," Pardew said of jostling with Meyler. "I want to apologize to him, everyone at Hull and obviously my own fans as well. ... I don't think it was a head butt. It wasn't a motion that was quick.”

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-alan-pardew-head-butt-david-meyler-0140301,0,4358442.story#ixzz2v2rvo723

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:  ::)


Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 09, 2014, 11:14:28 AM
This is really a FA cup post, but like Wigan is Man City father.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 09, 2014, 11:39:28 AM
Now Man City is just they outside chile.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 09, 2014, 12:00:55 PM
Wigan!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on March 09, 2014, 12:29:28 PM
Uwe Rosler come in and rescue Wigan. Cause dey was in a mess with Owen Coyle. They'd likely be much closer to promotion right now if Rosler was there from the start.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 15, 2014, 08:08:58 AM
The Man City Offside trap is a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on March 15, 2014, 09:00:16 AM
The Man City Offside trap is a thing of beauty.

That and Hull look lost each time.
City gonna miss Kompany for Fulham, Man U and Arsenal.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 15, 2014, 09:09:45 AM
David Silva: top shelf pass.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on March 15, 2014, 12:22:11 PM
The Man City Offside trap is a thing of beauty.

Hull just clueless, hardly the result of any brilliance by City that they keep getting ketch 2-3 yards offside.

That and Hull look lost each time.
City gonna miss Kompany for Fulham, Man U and Arsenal.

Kompany will only miss the Fulham game... professional foul is only a one-game suspension.  Yuh cyah learn dat rule playing savannah sweat football.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on March 15, 2014, 01:04:27 PM
The Man City Offside trap is a thing of beauty.

Hull just clueless, hardly the result of any brilliance by City that they keep getting ketch 2-3 yards offside.

That and Hull look lost each time.
City gonna miss Kompany for Fulham, Man U and Arsenal.

Kompany will only miss the Fulham game... professional foul is only a one-game suspension.  Yuh cyah learn dat rule playing savannah sweat football.

Congrats on knowing something  ;D

Villa really knocking on the door......
As I typing they score.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on March 15, 2014, 01:13:59 PM

Congrats on knowing something  ;D

Villa really knocking on the door......
As I typing they score.

Hush yuh kyat, dred... hush yuh kyat!!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on March 15, 2014, 01:17:55 PM

Congrats on knowing something  ;D

Villa really knocking on the door......
As I typing they score.

Hush yuh kyat, dred... hush yuh kyat!!

Yes ah been trying but yuh keep meowing

Watch Ramires conduct now.

The table set up real nice.  Yeah City have 3 games in hand but that is plenty games to have to win, they can't count those 9 points just yet.
Pool and Arsenal still close with tough games tomorrow but Liverpool play two relegation zone teams next matchday.
Chelsea in the lead but nervously watching.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on March 15, 2014, 01:26:36 PM
Absolutely terrible decisions by the ref. Almost all his major call were delayed. This game was being called from the stands. Say what you want.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on March 15, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
Absolutely terrible decisions by the ref. Almost all his major call were delayed. This game was being called from the stands. Say what you want.

The Willian sending off was jokey but Ramires was begging for what he get.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on March 15, 2014, 01:43:37 PM
Absolutely terrible decisions by the ref. Almost all his major call were delayed. This game was being called from the stands. Say what you want.

The Willian sending off was jokey but Ramires was begging for what he get.

Agreed. Willian first yellow was very, very harsh. The second less so but still a bit harsh. Long time Ramires is a stink player tho. Good player but he love to foul.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on March 25, 2014, 02:06:15 PM
City score in the first minute.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on March 25, 2014, 02:54:10 PM
Man United should be down to 8 players. Felliani, Wellbeck and Mr. Nasty/don't care/FA boy/Rooney gets away with an absolutely stink tackle from behind and not even a card. Half time they did not even mention or show Rooney tackle in the studio. Balotelli would have been looking at a 3 game ban.

Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on March 25, 2014, 03:09:20 PM
Man United should be down to 8 players. Felliani, Wellbeck and Mr. Nasty/don't care/FA boy/Rooney gets away with an absolutely stink tackle from behind and not even a card. Half time they did not even mention or show Rooney tackle in the studio. Balotelli would have been looking at a 3 game ban.



Balotelli is yuh man or what elan... seriously?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on March 25, 2014, 03:40:55 PM
Yeah, we can double date with with you and Suarez.  :-*
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on March 25, 2014, 03:41:41 PM
Yaya Toure is easily the best all-round player in the world. :applause:
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: chelsealife on March 25, 2014, 03:48:39 PM
Yaya Toure is easily the best all-round player in the world. :applause:
Soooo that would make him the best player in the world???  :-\
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on March 25, 2014, 04:53:30 PM
Yeah, we can double date with with you and Suarez.  :-*

Nah you could date both ah dem if is so yuh swinging... especially you does bring up both ah dem name de most around here.  Doh let Sam find out nah, he go stone yuh off de site.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 29, 2014, 11:01:44 AM
So another result with huge ramifications for the top half of the table. Crystal Palace have recorded an improbable victory against Chelsea.

Thus, City can go second, Liverpool can go top, or Arsenal's faint title hope could be infused with some form of life if they beat the citizens later today.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: grimm01 on March 29, 2014, 11:14:54 AM
Like nobody want this title or wha?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on March 29, 2014, 11:16:30 AM
lol...watch city put it in their back pocket today.

Damn Chelsea   :devil:
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on March 29, 2014, 12:05:53 PM
I wanted Chelsea to keep the pressure on City.  Damn fools how yuh go destroy Arsenal then lose to Palace?
How was the game?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on March 29, 2014, 12:14:22 PM
Yaya is the absolute best. There's no two ways about it.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on March 29, 2014, 12:16:33 PM
I wanted Chelsea to keep the pressure on City.  Damn fools how yuh go destroy Arsenal then lose to Palace?
How was the game?

It was good. Chelsea weren't really committed. Palace was up for it and gave it a go. 0-0/1-1 would have been a fair result.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on March 29, 2014, 01:14:43 PM
Like nobody want this title or wha?

ENT
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: chelsealife on March 29, 2014, 01:25:10 PM
Like nobody want this title or wha?

ENT
Liverpool want it lol.... good result in d late game draw
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on March 29, 2014, 01:32:47 PM
Like nobody want this title or wha?

ENT
Liverpool want it lol.... good result in d late game draw

Tomorrow we will see.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on March 29, 2014, 03:11:26 PM
Yaya is the absolute best. There's no two ways about it.

What about Arturo Vidal?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on March 29, 2014, 06:44:01 PM
It was good. Chelsea weren't really committed. Palace was up for it and gave it a go. 0-0/1-1 would have been a fair result.

Nah, Palace deserve that win over Chelsea man elan.  They hit the post late, had two shots go just wide... not counting the fact that Cahill should have been sent off and Cardiff awarded a penalty in the first half when he take down Bolasie in the box... clear penalty.  Lee Mason keep yuh team in the game with some ah dem calls.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 30, 2014, 07:04:31 AM
Fulham don't look anything like a bottom-3 side right now. (but that is how it does go, they look decent and then let in 3 goals)

The colour commentator on tv ent giving nobody a bligh, if yuh ent make the play, he calling it.

Also, what is the likihood of 2 people named Moussa Dembele playing in the EPL? Maybe that is the equivalent of "John Smith"
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 30, 2014, 08:13:08 AM
but that is how it does go, they look decent and then let in 3 goals

Like I was saying...
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on March 30, 2014, 08:23:13 AM
but that is how it does go, they look decent and then let in 3 goals

Like I was saying...
Fulham on paper is 'too good to go down'. And yet...
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on March 30, 2014, 09:54:20 AM
It was good. Chelsea weren't really committed. Palace was up for it and gave it a go. 0-0/1-1 would have been a fair result.

Nah, Palace deserve that win over Chelsea man elan.  They hit the post late, had two shots go just wide... not counting the fact that Cahill should have been sent off and Cardiff awarded a penalty in the first half when he take down Bolasie in the box... clear penalty.  Lee Mason keep yuh team in the game with some ah dem calls.

If he give that sending off, then he would have had to give the PK on Torres at the other end, when the 2 CB drag Torres to the ground when he was in through to goal and the 2 defenders were beaten for pace.

They played well, but deserved to win? Nah.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: fari on March 30, 2014, 12:20:56 PM
Fulham don't look anything like a bottom-3 side right now. (but that is how it does go, they look decent and then let in 3 goals)

The colour commentator on tv ent giving nobody a bligh, if yuh ent make the play, he calling it.

Also, what is the likihood of 2 people named Moussa Dembele playing in the EPL? Maybe that is the equivalent of "John Smith"

very strange eh
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 05, 2014, 06:30:27 AM
Southampton giving Man City fits here.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 05, 2014, 06:30:59 AM
And as I type that, city score
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on April 06, 2014, 09:50:00 AM
wow dat WHU equalizer ??? what d ref see
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 06, 2014, 10:07:51 AM
wow dat WHU equalizer ??? what d ref see

Is a world cup year. God warming up he hand. He a lil rusty so he hit the goalie.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on April 06, 2014, 10:24:01 AM
wow dat WHU equalizer ??? what d ref see

Is a world cup year. God warming up he hand. He a lil rusty so he hit the goalie.

lol ;D
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 06, 2014, 10:28:10 AM
Ref tief back a penalty for 'pool
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on April 06, 2014, 10:35:06 AM
goh stay way from dat one :-\
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on April 06, 2014, 11:09:44 AM
on a side-note doh hope chelsea doh play d ass and sell lukaku, torres is lost money admit it and move to hell on.....doh do a nex' sturridge
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on April 06, 2014, 12:24:06 PM
Liverpool is this season Man United  ???  Always a pk when you need one. That's what 2x, 3x this season.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on April 06, 2014, 07:35:34 PM
Ref tief back a penalty for 'pool

Seriously?  Adrian wrap up Flanagan left leg with both hands (0:35) to prevent him from getting aways... and you say de ref "tief" for Liverpool?

https://www.youtube.com/v/n2DaKJDNVz8
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 15, 2014, 01:27:37 PM
Koscielny almost took off Jarvis' head on that play.
Brave header, good goal, West Ham lead.

And Arsenal equalize, right before half time too.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 15, 2014, 01:29:29 PM
Koscielny almost took off Jarvis' head on that play.
Brave header, good goal, West Ham lead.

Brave Header in truth.
Arsenal was coasting and get ketch on a quick-thinking play
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 15, 2014, 01:30:31 PM
Koscielny almost took off Jarvis' head on that play.
Brave header, good goal, West Ham lead.

Brave Header in truth.
Arsenal was coasting and get ketch on a quick-thinking play

I guess they stop coasting and mash the X a lil bit.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on April 15, 2014, 02:25:36 PM
arsenal find dey legs........but for how long
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 16, 2014, 02:17:16 PM
It is appropriate that Palace is wearing yellow, they proving to be a banana skin for Everton.

I also have to give Pulis credit for re-inventing his style of play, I didn't think it was possible.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 16, 2014, 02:23:39 PM
Wait all them goals Palace score? 

Oh shit what a goal by Sunderland!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 16, 2014, 02:29:08 PM
Wait all them goals Palace score? 

Sunderland should be wearing yellow too...
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 16, 2014, 02:30:06 PM
Frantic finishes in both these games.
Everton pull another one back!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 16, 2014, 02:33:27 PM
Goal CITY!!!!

The keeper oh god boy yuh have to do better than that.  That ball crawled over the line.

Nasri throw away.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 16, 2014, 02:35:50 PM
How Nasri miss that?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 16, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
That was fun.
Those two games were more interesting than the Copa Del Rey Classico going on now. Barca like they loss they mojo.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 16, 2014, 02:45:45 PM
Everton mess up my fantasy team.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on April 16, 2014, 02:47:46 PM
Disappointing from Everton.  Man City dropping point that they need.  I dreading Liverpool's visit to Crystal Palace.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on April 16, 2014, 04:35:49 PM
dis ting wide open again....man city eh doin nutten with games in hand.....palace can play spoiler.....sunderland look like dey go make some waves either way......chelsea and pool need to watch dey ass with sun'land and palace respectively....dis goh be ah nail biter of an end to d season. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 17, 2014, 01:20:35 PM
Lamela's absence has been one of the more disappointing things about this season to me.

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/tottenham-boss-sherwood-dismisses-rumor-of-lamela-return-041714

There is "no chance" of club-record signing Erik Lamela featuring for Tottenham before the season is out, according to head coach Tim Sherwood.

Billed as Spurs' ready-made replacement for Gareth Bale, the 22-year-old's summer arrival for £30million ($50.45million) was greeted by excitement at White Hart Lane.

However, Lamela has so far been a huge disappointment in north London, managing just three Barclays Premier League starts in a debut season blighted by injury.

A report on Thursday suggested the Argentina international will return to training next week after his latest complaint and that head coach Sherwood is under pressure to give him a run-out before the season is out.

The Spurs head coach recently stated that Lamela would not be available this season due to a back complaint and was bemused by the latest speculation.

"There'll be no chance Erik's fit," Sherwood said. "I read in the paper, or someone told me, that the hierarchy here are asking for him to get more opportunities.

"Chance would be a fine thing, he's injured."

That news will no doubt frustrate Tottenham supporters, who have not seen Lamelain action since he came off the bench against Stoke on December 29.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on April 17, 2014, 05:30:27 PM
Lamela's absence has been one of the more disappointing things about this season to me.

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/tottenham-boss-sherwood-dismisses-rumor-of-lamela-return-041714

There is "no chance" of club-record signing Erik Lamela featuring for Tottenham before the season is out, according to head coach Tim Sherwood.

Billed as Spurs' ready-made replacement for Gareth Bale, the 22-year-old's summer arrival for £30million ($50.45million) was greeted by excitement at White Hart Lane.

However, Lamela has so far been a huge disappointment in north London, managing just three Barclays Premier League starts in a debut season blighted by injury.

A report on Thursday suggested the Argentina international will return to training next week after his latest complaint and that head coach Sherwood is under pressure to give him a run-out before the season is out.

The Spurs head coach recently stated that Lamela would not be available this season due to a back complaint and was bemused by the latest speculation.

"There'll be no chance Erik's fit," Sherwood said. "I read in the paper, or someone told me, that the hierarchy here are asking for him to get more opportunities.

"Chance would be a fine thing, he's injured."

That news will no doubt frustrate Tottenham supporters, who have not seen Lamelain action since he came off the bench against Stoke on December 29.

That fella cyar wait to leave London forever.  He has not settled in. 
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on April 19, 2014, 06:49:25 AM
(Viewing Leicester v QPR ... w/ an eye on next year ... good battle in progress). 
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 19, 2014, 07:20:17 AM
I'm watching Fulham - Spurs... and wondering why.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 19, 2014, 08:03:19 AM
Cardiff - Stoke.
Jones on bench.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 19, 2014, 09:16:25 AM
All kinda ting going on in this Stoke - Cardiff game.

Penalties, bad calls, fouls, disallowed goals.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 19, 2014, 09:40:14 AM
Jones on in the 80th Minute.

Come on KJ. This is the moment.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on April 19, 2014, 11:26:10 AM
I'm watching Fulham - Spurs... and wondering why.

By the time I tuned in, Fulham were wounded and left for dead. I decided not to stick around for the administration of the last rites. It was 3-1 and Spurs weren't interested in a shallow grave.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on April 20, 2014, 06:57:29 AM
Soccer: Their Game, Now Ours (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/17/fashion/soccer-particularly-englands-premier-league-growing-in-popularity-in-new-york-creative-circles.html?WT.mc_id=D-NYT-MKTG-MOD-69483-04-20-HD&WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_c=${CAMPAIGN_ID})
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on April 27, 2014, 09:55:13 AM
how pep could find no place for yaya is behond me
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bourbon on April 27, 2014, 06:02:32 PM
how pep could find no place for yaya is behond me

If yuh think bout it...it go bother yuh. Etoo get it. Kieta almost get it.


Might be coincidental but after Rosell rant during elections I highly circumspect with Barca as compared how I was before.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on April 27, 2014, 06:53:46 PM
how pep could find no place for yaya is behond me

If yuh think bout it...it go bother yuh. Etoo get it. Kieta almost get it.


Might be coincidental but after Rosell rant during elections I highly circumspect with Barca as compared how I was before.

I had my suspicion jus chose not to go there......dropped real after makalele and couldn't be bothered to fart on barca after etoo and yaya...........dat shit jus rub me d wrong way as ah black man
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on May 03, 2014, 11:26:21 AM
everton v mci going good hopin everton could take it though but ah doubt dat goh happen based on how man city runnn d everton goal doh :o :o
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on May 03, 2014, 11:56:59 AM
if chelsea sell lukaku dey deserve licks......of course if he doh want to come back :-\ :'(...............
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: boss on May 05, 2014, 03:59:33 PM
From the BBC (after Crystal Palace 3 - Liverpool 3)

How the title can be won

Liverpool
Require City to drop points in at least one of their last two games. If City win one and draw one of their last two games, Liverpool must beat Newcastle on Sunday and vastly improve their goal difference. If City draw both games, a win on Sunday will be enough for the Reds. If City lose both games, Liverpool will already have enough points if Chelsea do not beat Cardiff.

Manchester City
Two wins will definitely secure the title, while a win and a draw is likely to be enough because of their superior goal difference. If Liverpool and Chelsea fail to win their final games, City will only need to win one of their last two.

Chelsea
Must beat Cardiff, but that will only be good enough if Liverpool fail to defeat Newcastle and if City take no more than two points from their last two games. Even then, the Londoners will require a huge swing in goal difference.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on May 05, 2014, 04:35:34 PM
chelsea lost dat against sunderland and again at palace yesterday..................dis especially irksome since even if goal difference coulda be a factor Jose kept closin shop when we coulda be padding d goal difference
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 07, 2014, 01:36:14 PM
This cat and mouse game between the City attack and the Villa defense is fascinating.

I would use this first half as training material in how to defend with discipline. No wild tackles, nobody has switched off (yet). The back four is in sync. You would still back City to score though. They have enough quality to make the difference in the end. Liverpool lives in hope for one more half.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 07, 2014, 01:57:44 PM
According to one of the studio hosts, Villa have parked the (19th century?) Bus, let the air out of the tires and set it on fire.

They need someone like Agbonlahor to provide the breakaway threat. City could do with Aguero.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 07, 2014, 02:09:27 PM
Hard luck dey Liverpool
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 07, 2014, 02:39:25 PM
0-0 at 60 minutes.
4-0 at 90.

Liverpool need a stumble and an American Samoa type scoreline to win the title.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 07, 2014, 03:13:09 PM
0-0 at 60 minutes.
4-0 at 90.

Liverpool need a stumble and an American Samoa type scoreline to win the title.

Realistically, Liverpool can only win the title if City lose its final game of the season and the Reds win.

If City wins, it will be deserving winners, as the sky blues have the better defensive record.

A Liverpool win in its final game will guarantee a second place finish.

Considering that the Reds are already 19 points better and 28 goals (in the "goals for" column), I am proud of their performance.

However, I can only imagine how devastated the Liverpool players must feel.

The manner in which Liverpool collapsed can either strengthen its resolve to mount a new challenge or result in an emotional letdown culminating in a disappointing finish next season.

Time will tell...

In the meantime, Mr. Rogers better start looking for some defenders and defensive midfielders.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on May 07, 2014, 09:07:13 PM
0-0 at 60 minutes.
4-0 at 90.

Liverpool need a stumble and an American Samoa type scoreline to win the title.

Realistically, Liverpool can only win the title if City lose its final game of the season and the Reds win.

If City wins, it will be deserving winners, as the sky blues have the better defensive record.

A Liverpool win in its final game will guarantee a second place finish.

Considering that the Reds are already 19 points better and 28 goals (in the "goals for" column), I am proud of their performance.

However, I can only imagine how devastated the Liverpool players must feel.

The manner in which Liverpool collapsed can either strengthen its resolve to mount a new challenge or result in an emotional letdown culminating in a disappointing finish next season.

Time will tell...

In the meantime, Mr. Rogers better start looking for some defenders and defensive midfielders.

...and learn some defensive tactics.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 11, 2014, 08:07:30 AM
Newcastle wearing light blue/Grey to taunt Liverpool?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 11, 2014, 08:24:52 AM
Liverpool is done.
No Jones for Cardiff.

Not even a good relegation battle, 0-0 for both Norwich vs Arsenal, and West Brom vs Stoke.

West Brom would need to give up a 17 goal advantage in goal difference to be threatened.
Maybe Man U to see if they can make Europa League?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 11, 2014, 08:37:33 AM
Maybe Man U to see if they can make Europa League?

Nope
Spurs up 2-0 and just got a penalty.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 11, 2014, 08:40:18 AM
Title is sealed.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 11, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
Well, Liverpool are still in with a chance for a second-place finish, as Cardiff has a shock lead over Chelsea; Mourinho better watch himself.

Roman is known for his quick firings...
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 11, 2014, 09:08:58 AM
Flicking Chelsea ... is Mourinho playing "the kids"?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 11, 2014, 09:12:46 AM
Right now, the only things to be decided are parade routes and holiday plans. Then you have players who trying not to get kick down before the World Cup.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 11, 2014, 09:18:29 AM
Seemed to me that Adrián should and could have done better on Nasri's goal.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 11, 2014, 09:21:13 AM
1-1 Pool
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 11, 2014, 09:22:48 AM
2-1. Liverpool wakes up after the pressure is off?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 11, 2014, 09:23:18 AM
2-1 Pool
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 11, 2014, 09:25:15 AM
Somebody need to check Ameobi's bank account. WTF was that?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 11, 2014, 09:27:44 AM
Viewing 3 games simultaneously. Mikel off; Schurrle on v. Cardiff; score unchanged.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 11, 2014, 09:29:07 AM
I have to imagine that Hull is running a long con on Arsenal ahead of the FC cup Final.

Last 3 games:

4/26   Fulham (A)   D 2-2
5/3   Aston Villa (A)   L 1-3
5/6   Man Utd (A)   L 1-3
5/11   Everton (H)    65'   L 2-0 Prem
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 11, 2014, 09:30:48 AM
An Abou Diaby sighting! That means 6 more weeks of winter.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 11, 2014, 09:31:18 AM
Somebody need to check Ameobi's bank account. WTF was that?

I cyah remember the last time I've seen a player receive two cards before play restarts.

Wow.

Very stupid by Ameobi and pointless.

I would make him ride pine for at least four games after he serves his suspension
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 11, 2014, 09:31:56 AM
Chelsea equalize. Goal by Schurrle.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 11, 2014, 09:34:47 AM
Chelsea 2 Cardiff 1. Things happening fast and furious today.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 11, 2014, 09:36:24 AM
(Goal x Torres).
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on May 11, 2014, 09:52:05 AM
Fire bun Liverpool and City
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 11, 2014, 09:53:12 AM
Fire bun Liverpool and City

Staying true to yuh values!!!  :)
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 11, 2014, 10:00:00 AM
Congratulations to City. The sky blues were better than Liverpool in both attack and defence by virtue of having scored more goals and conceded fewer.

City also showed far more composure in the run-in and taught Liverpool a thing or two keeping its nerve under pressure.

The experience of 2011-12 also told, since City dealt with pressure far better than Liverpool did.

Fair play to Liverpool though; a second-place finish, Champions League football without having to qualify.

Its ironic that City won the league with the points tally that Liverpool amassed when it finished second to Utd back in 2008-09.

Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 11, 2014, 10:01:20 AM
Fire bun Liverpool and City

Congratulations to Utd on Europa League football....

Oh wait....

 ;D

(Moyes is a football genius)
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on May 11, 2014, 10:11:41 AM
Entertaining season, world cup next. 
Actually it still have La Liga and CL next.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 11, 2014, 10:46:14 AM
Micah Richards like he eh want tuh touch de trophy.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 11, 2014, 11:17:48 AM
City also showed far more composure in the run-in and taught Liverpool a thing or two keeping its nerve under pressure.

I think that is a false narrative. The Chelsea game was always going to be tough, especially with the way Mourinho sets up for away games. Let's not forget that City also lost to Chelsea at the Etihad.

Because of the goal difference, and the games in hand, they had to go for it vs Palace. Liverpool lost the league before Christmas, or rather, they surged after Christmas, but couldn't pull ahead.

For 2014:
Man City 14W 2L 3D
Liverpool 15W 1L 3D
Chelsea  13W 3L 3D
Arsenal   11W 4L 4D

City:
   Losses: Chelsea, Liverpool.
   Ties: Norwich, Arsenal, Sunderland

Liverpool:
   Losses: Chelsea
   Ties: West Brom, Crystal Palace
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 12, 2014, 12:57:36 PM
Sam, Manchester City is the foreign W Connection of the BPL ... and they win. Thoughts? Aside from Hart, who else was homegrown and influential in this campaign?   :-\
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on May 12, 2014, 01:19:16 PM
City also showed far more composure in the run-in and taught Liverpool a thing or two keeping its nerve under pressure.

I think that is a false narrative. The Chelsea game was always going to be tough, especially with the way Mourinho sets up for away games. Let's not forget that City also lost to Chelsea at the Etihad.

Because of the goal difference, and the games in hand, they had to go for it vs Palace. Liverpool lost the league before Christmas, or rather, they surged after Christmas, but couldn't pull ahead.

For 2014:
Man City 14W 2L 3D
Liverpool 15W 1L 3D
Chelsea  13W 3L 3D
Arsenal   11W 4L 4D

City:
   Losses: Chelsea, Liverpool.
   Ties: Norwich, Arsenal, Sunderland

Liverpool:
   Losses: Chelsea
   Ties: West Brom, Crystal Palace


Bitter that's all :bs: Liverpool went about the end on a high and bought into the hype and got carried away. Rodgers showed his amateurism vs Chelsea and then again vs Palace. They had to go for it vs Palace, they did  and had it. Then they got their school boy game on.

All Liverpool had to worry about was the League and they couldn't finish that off. They had all week to plan for 1 game on the weekend and the times it mattered they got it very wrong.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on May 12, 2014, 01:45:43 PM
I think that is a false narrative. The Chelsea game was always going to be tough, especially with the way Mourinho sets up for away games. Let's not forget that City also lost to Chelsea at the Etihad.

Because of the goal difference, and the games in hand, they had to go for it vs Palace. Liverpool lost the league before Christmas, or rather, they surged after Christmas, but couldn't pull ahead.

For 2014:
Man City 14W 2L 3D
Liverpool 15W 1L 3D
Chelsea  13W 3L 3D
Arsenal   11W 4L 4D

City:
   Losses: Chelsea, Liverpool.
   Ties: Norwich, Arsenal, Sunderland

Liverpool:
   Losses: Chelsea
   Ties: West Brom, Crystal Palace


I tend to agree with this in part... we still had a chance to beat Chelsea, but Gerrard's mistake gifted Chelsea the opening they needed, once they scored it was game over.  That forced us to go for it against Palace... but the Palace game was rendered moot by the Chelsea result.  Even had we beaten Palace 3-0 we would have still lost out on the title due to City's superior goal differential. 
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on May 12, 2014, 01:47:11 PM
Bitter that's all :bs: Liverpool went about the end on a high and bought into the hype and got carried away. Rodgers showed his amateurism vs Chelsea and then again vs Palace. They had to go for it vs Palace, they did  and had it. Then they got their school boy game on.

All Liverpool had to worry about was the League and they couldn't finish that off. They had all week to plan for 1 game on the weekend and the times it mattered they got it very wrong.

What was the "amateurism" he showed against Chelsea?

Against Palace?   You said we had to go for "it" and "had it"... what is this "it"?  Because we never had the goal differential made up.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on May 12, 2014, 02:27:46 PM
Bitter that's all :bs: Liverpool went about the end on a high and bought into the hype and got carried away. Rodgers showed his amateurism vs Chelsea and then again vs Palace. They had to go for it vs Palace, they did  and had it. Then they got their school boy game on.

All Liverpool had to worry about was the League and they couldn't finish that off. They had all week to plan for 1 game on the weekend and the times it mattered they got it very wrong.

What was the "amateurism" he showed against Chelsea?

Against Palace?   You said we had to go for "it" and "had it"... what is this "it"?  Because we never had the goal differential made up.

The psychological approach to playing against Chelsea, that was amateur.  Look at the 2 goals that Chelsea scored and figure out why those goals came about the way it did.  Gerard slip was just a slip. You ever stopped to think why Ba was on spot immediately to open up the gift? What about the 2nd goal, ever stop to think why it happened the way it did?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on May 12, 2014, 04:11:48 PM
I like how pool play bakes...........but d approach to defensive position and cover was more than a little bit naive........pool could could blitz most teams in attack given d opportunity but...yuh could almost always see room for quick counter ....just check alyuh GA............ah dose ah pragmatism wouldn't hurt 'pool.....an I'sa fellas who feel jose could loosen up plenty and let chelsea express deyself lil bit.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on May 12, 2014, 09:46:41 PM
The psychological approach to playing against Chelsea, that was amateur.  Look at the 2 goals that Chelsea scored and figure out why those goals came about the way it did.  Gerard slip was just a slip. You ever stopped to think why Ba was on spot immediately to open up the gift? What about the 2nd goal, ever stop to think why it happened the way it did?

What about the "psychological approach"?  What was that psychological approach... and why was it 'amateur'?  As for the two goals... the first goal came about as the result of an error.  Ba was at midfield when he intercepted the pass... where else would a retreating striker be?  Better yet, you tell me why Ba was where he was and why his positioning and Gerrard's error reveal's Rodgers' "amateurism"?

There's no need to discuss the second goal, patently ridiculous to try to claim that is proof of "amateurism".  Willian scored the second goal in the 90+ when Liverpool was pressing for an equalizer.  Is it your position that Liverpool should NOT have thrown caution to the wind in added time?  They shoulda play more pragmatic with time running out and needing a goal?  That is "amateurism"?

How was his "amateurism" showed against Palace?  How did Liverpool get "carried away"?


I like how pool play bakes...........but d approach to defensive position and cover was more than a little bit naive........pool could could blitz most teams in attack given d opportunity but...yuh could almost always see room for quick counter ....just check alyuh GA............ah dose ah pragmatism wouldn't hurt 'pool.....an I'sa fellas who feel jose could loosen up plenty and let chelsea express deyself lil bit.

Liverpool defense needs to improve... nobody arguing with that.  Since yuh addressing me, I assume it's in response to my question... so again, how was Rodgers' "amateurism" exposed against Chelsea and Palace?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 12, 2014, 10:02:34 PM
The
Bitter that's all :bs: Liverpool went about the end on a high and bought into the hype and got carried away. Rodgers showed his amateurism vs Chelsea and then again vs Palace. They had to go for it vs Palace, they did  and had it. Then they got their school boy game on.

All Liverpool had to worry about was the League and they couldn't finish that off. They had all week to plan for 1 game on the weekend and the times it mattered they got it very wrong.

So did Man City losing to Chelsea at home also mean that Mancini showed his amateurism?

The only reason you have a problem with Rogers now is because he couldn't get 3 more points. The whole of 2014 Liverpool playing one way, it was working. If they had played conservative vs Chelsea and lose, you would say that they feel the pressure.  If they had shut up shop vs Palace after 3-0, and lose on goal difference, you would complain that they don't have a killer instinct, or some such thing. Rogers only sin is not winning the league.

1st half of the season:
Liverpool: 36 Points
Man City: 41 Points
Chelsea: 40 Points
Arsenal: 42 Points

2nd Half of the season:
Liverpool: 48 Points
Man City: 45 Points
Chelsea: 42 Points
Arsenal: 37 Points

Difference between 1st half and 2nd half of season:

Liverpool +12
Man City +4
Chelsea: +2
Arsenal: -5

Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on May 12, 2014, 10:41:40 PM
The psychological approach to playing against Chelsea, that was amateur.  Look at the 2 goals that Chelsea scored and figure out why those goals came about the way it did.  Gerard slip was just a slip. You ever stopped to think why Ba was on spot immediately to open up the gift? What about the 2nd goal, ever stop to think why it happened the way it did?

What about the "psychological approach"?  What was that psychological approach... and why was it 'amateur'?  As for the two goals... the first goal came about as the result of an error.  Ba was at midfield when he intercepted the pass... where else would a retreating striker be?  Better yet, you tell me why Ba was where he was and why his positioning and Gerrard's error reveal's Rodgers' "amateurism"?

There's no need to discuss the second goal, patently ridiculous to try to claim that is proof of "amateurism".  Willian scored the second goal in the 90+ when Liverpool was pressing for an equalizer.  Is it your position that Liverpool should NOT have thrown caution to the wind in added time?  They shoulda play more pragmatic with time running out and needing a goal?  That is "amateurism"?

How was his "amateurism" showed against Palace?  How did Liverpool get "carried away"?


I like how pool play bakes...........but d approach to defensive position and cover was more than a little bit naive........pool could could blitz most teams in attack given d opportunity but...yuh could almost always see room for quick counter ....just check alyuh GA............ah dose ah pragmatism wouldn't hurt 'pool.....an I'sa fellas who feel jose could loosen up plenty and let chelsea express deyself lil bit.

Liverpool defense needs to improve... nobody arguing with that.  Since yuh addressing me, I assume it's in response to my question... so again, how was Rodgers' "amateurism" exposed against Chelsea and Palace?

Yuh right, they were spot on. lol


The dog and the bone.  lol
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on May 12, 2014, 10:49:25 PM
The
Bitter that's all :bs: Liverpool went about the end on a high and bought into the hype and got carried away. Rodgers showed his amateurism vs Chelsea and then again vs Palace. They had to go for it vs Palace, they did  and had it. Then they got their school boy game on.

All Liverpool had to worry about was the League and they couldn't finish that off. They had all week to plan for 1 game on the weekend and the times it mattered they got it very wrong.

So did Man City losing to Chelsea at home also mean that Mancini showed his amateurism?

The only reason you have a problem with Rogers now is because he couldn't get 3 more points. The whole of 2014 Liverpool playing one way, it was working. If they had played conservative vs Chelsea and lose, you would say that they feel the pressure.  If they had shut up shop vs Palace after 3-0, and lose on goal difference, you would complain that they don't have a killer instinct, or some such thing. Rogers only sin is not winning the league.

1st half of the season:
Liverpool: 36 Points
Man City: 41 Points
Chelsea: 40 Points
Arsenal: 42 Points

2nd Half of the season:
Liverpool: 48 Points
Man City: 45 Points
Chelsea: 42 Points
Arsenal: 37 Points

Difference between 1st half and 2nd half of season:

Liverpool +12
Man City +4
Chelsea: +2
Arsenal: -5



Me? Nah, I did not get carried away with Liverpool like most people did. I just find it funny that people dissecting their last couple games conveniently. All this talk about free scoring and still short on goal difference? Gave up crazy goals, yet they were so organized? Get real. Look at the squad JM put out for Liverpool gave  ::) the game to Chelsea.

All those numbers equals to zero.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on May 13, 2014, 05:01:56 AM

Liverpool defense needs to improve... nobody arguing with that.  Since yuh addressing me, I assume it's in response to my question... so again, how was Rodgers' "amateurism" exposed against Chelsea and Palace?

bakes all I sayin is when ah crack appear deal with it or it might deal with u..........as great as they were they conceded far too many over d season and never seemed like a problem that was being solved....the deficiencies of individual players not withstanding...........chelsea, palace and "almost" city at d end and almost in d same fashion ....a few others earlier........I not goin as far as elan's pronouncements...but sometimes a step back doh hurt
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tiresais on May 13, 2014, 05:33:45 AM
Two stories for you today;

Brendan Rodgers: Liverpool boss named LMA manager of the year
BBC Sport


Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers has been named the League Managers' Association manager of the year.
The 41-year-old guided the Reds to second place in the Premier League, as well as a return to the Champions League, as they finished just two points behind Manchester City.

"I was hoping I'd be on the open top bus tonight," said Rodgers.

Crystal Palace boss Tony Pulis was named Premier League manager of the year.

Pulis led the Eagles to a comfortable 11th-place finish, having been six points from safety when he took charge towards the end of November.

Rodgers, meanwhile, is the first Liverpool boss to win the award in its 20-year history.

 Read More (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27387062)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tim Sherwood sacked as Tottenham manager
BBC Sport


Tottenham have parted company with manager Tim Sherwood after the club's sixth-placed finish in the Premier League this season.

"We agreed an 18-month contract with a break clause at the end of the season and we have now exercised that option," said Spurs chairman Daniel Levy.

Sherwood, 45, took over after the sacking of Andre Villas-Boas last December and signed a deal through to the end of the 2014-15 season.

More to follow.

Read More (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27389072)
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 13, 2014, 05:57:26 AM
Doh forget to ketch QPR and Derby's battle to make it into the top flight ...
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on May 14, 2014, 05:04:44 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnmZqCNIEAAPPoe.png:large)
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tiresais on May 15, 2014, 03:16:46 AM
Jésus that's a lot of money
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 24, 2014, 08:06:24 AM
QPR vs Derby on now in the playoff final at Wembley.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 24, 2014, 08:23:52 AM
QPR vs Derby on now in the playoff final at Wembley.

Good call!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: chelsealife on May 24, 2014, 08:45:35 AM
http://www.portugaldesportivo.com/index.php?channel=4 no lag
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 24, 2014, 09:04:57 AM
Right now, both of these sides looking like prime candidates for immediate relegation.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 24, 2014, 09:19:01 AM
Hard luck dey 'arry.

Terrible cynical play, or great professional foul?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 24, 2014, 09:54:57 AM
Wow.
He's Baaacckkk

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01799/harry-redknapp_1799507c.jpg)
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 24, 2014, 09:55:17 AM
Lol, call him up!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 24, 2014, 09:56:35 AM
Lol, call him up!

Where Big Mag?
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 24, 2014, 10:00:03 AM
The football gods wreak havoc yet again ... this time on Derby. Derby's enterprise is to be applauded. This match was theirs to seize. Tough blow to the gut inflicted by Zamora. (Was that Holiet with the assist?)

Entertaining game!!!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 24, 2014, 10:05:15 AM
Gary O'Neil's red card goes down as a brilliant professional foul.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Deeks on May 24, 2014, 10:23:03 AM
Big Mag! Bobby Zamora in yuh guitar!
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on May 24, 2014, 10:35:08 AM
F#CK ZAMORA... he good right dey....hahha
well done Bob...congrats
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: fari on May 24, 2014, 10:51:07 AM
Right now, both of these sides looking like prime candidates for immediate relegation.


if QPR persists with Traore they will leak goals like a sieve..that fella is a jokey defender boy
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 24, 2014, 11:35:00 AM
Some ah dem men who celebrating today, staying right dey in de Championship.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: chelsealife on May 24, 2014, 12:26:12 PM
Right now, both of these sides looking like prime candidates for immediate relegation.


if QPR persists with Traore they will leak goals like a sieve..that fella is a jokey defender boy
He played left back as emergency actually. Plays left wing now. QPR will be strong in the Prem next year. Lampard probably signing as a free agent. ANd Harry always like Khaleem  ;D
Title: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 18, 2014, 05:30:16 AM
2014/15 English League Fixtures

August 16, 2014

Arsenal v Crystal Palace
Burnley v Chelsea
Leicester City v Everton
Liverpool v Southampton
Manchester United v Swansea City
Newcastle United v Manchester City
Queens Park Rangers v Hull City
Stoke City v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v Sunderland
West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur

August 23, 2014

Aston Villa v Newcastle United
Chelsea v Leicester City
Crystal Palace v West Ham United
Everton v Arsenal
Hull City v Stoke City
Manchester City v Liverpool
Southampton v West Bromwich Albion
Sunderland v Manchester United
Swansea City v Burnley
Tottenham Hotspur v Queens Park Rangers

August 30, 2014

Aston Villa v Hull City
Burnley v Manchester United
Everton v Chelsea
Leicester City v Arsenal
Manchester City v Stoke City
Newcastle United v Crystal Palace
Queens Park Rangers v Sunderland
Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion
Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool
West Ham United v Southampton

September 13, 2014

Arsenal v Manchester City
Chelsea v Swansea City
Crystal Palace v Burnley
Hull City v West Ham United
Liverpool v Aston Villa
Manchester United v Queens Park Rangers
Southampton v Newcastle United
Stoke City v Leicester City
Sunderland v Tottenham Hotspur
West Bromwich Albion v Everton

September 20, 2014

Aston Villa v Arsenal
Burnley v Sunderland
Everton v Crystal Palace
Leicester City v Manchester United
Manchester City v Chelsea
Newcastle United v Hull City
Queens Park Rangers v Stoke City
Swansea City v Southampton
Tottenham Hotspur v West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United v Liverpool

September 27, 2014

Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea v Aston Villa
Crystal Palace v Leicester City
Hull City v Manchester City
Liverpool v Everton
Manchester United v West Ham United
Southampton v Queens Park Rangers
Stoke City v Newcastle United
Sunderland v Swansea City
West Bromwich Albion v Burnley

October 4, 2014

Aston Villa v Manchester City
Chelsea v Arsenal
Hull City v Crystal Palace
Leicester City v Burnley
Liverpool v West Bromwich Albion
Manchester United v Everton
Sunderland v Stoke City
Swansea City v Newcastle United
Tottenham Hotspur v Southampton
West Ham United v Queens Park Rangers

October 18, 2014

Arsenal v Hull City
Burnley v West Ham United
Crystal Palace v Chelsea
Everton v Aston Villa
Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur
Newcastle United v Leicester City
Queens Park Rangers v Liverpool
Southampton v Sunderland
Stoke City v Swansea City
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester United

October 25, 2014

Burnley v Everton
Liverpool v Hull City
Manchester United v Chelsea
Queens Park Rangers v Aston Villa
Southampton v Stoke City
Sunderland v Arsenal
Swansea City v Leicester City
Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United
West Bromwich Albion v Crystal Palace
West Ham United v Manchester City

November 1, 2014

Arsenal v Burnley
Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea v Queens Park Rangers
Crystal Palace v Sunderland
Everton v Swansea City
Hull City v Southampton
Leicester City v West Bromwich Albion
Manchester City v Manchester United
Newcastle United v Liverpool
Stoke City v West Ham United

November 8, 2014

Burnley v Hull City
Liverpool v Chelsea
Manchester United v Crystal Palace
Queens Park Rangers v Manchester City
Southampton v Leicester City
Sunderland v Everton
Swansea City v Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur v Stoke City
West Bromwich Albion v Newcastle United
West Ham United v Aston Villa

November 22, 2014

Arsenal v Manchester United
Aston Villa v Southampton
Chelsea v West Bromwich Albion
Crystal Palace v Liverpool
Everton v West Ham United
Hull City v Tottenham Hotspur
Leicester City v Sunderland
Manchester City v Swansea City
Newcastle United v Queens Park Rangers
Stoke City v Burnley

November 29, 2014

Burnley v Aston Villa
Liverpool v Stoke City
Manchester United v Hull City
Queens Park Rangers v Leicester City
Southampton v Manchester City
Sunderland v Chelsea
Swansea City v Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur v Everton
West Bromwich Albion v Arsenal
West Ham United v Newcastle United

December 2, 2014

Arsenal v Southampton
Burnley v Newcastle United
Crystal Palace v Aston Villa
Leicester City v Liverpool
Manchester United v Stoke City
Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers
West Bromwich Albion v West Ham United

December 3, 2014

Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur
Everton v Hull City
Sunderland v Manchester City

December 6, 2012

Aston Villa v Leicester City
Hull City v West Bromwich Albion
Liverpool v Sunderland
Manchester City v Everton
Newcastle United v Chelsea
Queens Park Rangers v Burnley
Southampton v Manchester United
Stoke City v Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur v Crystal Palace
West Ham United v Swansea City

December 13, 2014

Arsenal v Newcastle United
Burnley v Southampton
Chelsea v Hull City
Crystal Palace v Stoke City
Everton v Queens Park Rangers
Leicester City v Manchester City
Manchester United v Liverpool
Sunderland v West Ham United
Swansea City v Tottenham Hotspur
West Bromwich Albion v Aston Villa

December 20, 2014

Aston Villa v Manchester United
Hull City v Swansea City
Liverpool v Arsenal
Manchester City v Crystal Palace
Newcastle United v Sunderland
Queens Park Rangers v West Bromwich Albion
Southampton v Everton
Stoke City v Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspur v Burnley
West Ham United v Leicester City

December 26, 2014

Arsenal v Queens Park Rangers
Burnley v Liverpool
Chelsea v West Ham United
Crystal Palace v Southampton
Everton v Stoke City
Leicester City v Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester United v Newcastle United
Sunderland v Hull City
Swansea City v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester City

December 28, 2014

Aston Villa v Sunderland
Hull City v Leicester City
Liverpool v Swansea City
Manchester City v Burnley
Newcastle United v Everton
Queens Park Rangers v Crystal Palace
Southampton v Chelsea
Stoke City v West Bromwich Albion
Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United
West Ham United v Arsenal

January 1, 2015

Aston Villa v Crystal Palace
Hull City v Everton
Liverpool v Leicester City
Manchester City v Sunderland
Newcastle United v Burnley
Queens Park Rangers v Swansea City
Southampton v Arsenal
Stoke City v Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea
West Ham United v West Bromwich Albion

January 10, 2015

Arsenal v Stoke City
Burnley v Queens Park Rangers
Chelsea v Newcastle United
Crystal Palace v Tottenham Hotspur
Everton v Manchester City
Leicester City v Aston Villa
Manchester United v Southampton
Sunderland v Liverpool
Swansea City v West Ham United
West Bromwich Albion v Hull City

January 17, 2015

Aston Villa v Liverpool
Burnley v Crystal Palace
Everton v West Bromwich Albion
Leicester City v Stoke City
Manchester City v Arsenal
Newcastle United v Southampton
Queens Park Rangers v Manchester United
Swansea City v Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspur v Sunderland
West Ham United v Hull City

January 31, 2015

Arsenal v Aston Villa
Chelsea v Manchester City
Crystal Palace v Everton
Hull City v Newcastle United
Liverpool v West Ham United
Manchester United v Leicester City
Southampton v Swansea City
Stoke City v Queens Park Rangers
Sunderland v Burnley
West Bromwich Albion v Tottenham Hotspur

February 2, 2015

Aston Villa v Chelsea
Burnley v West Bromwich Albion
Everton v Liverpool
Leicester City v Crystal Palace
Manchester City v Hull City
Newcastle United v Stoke City
Queens Park Rangers v Southampton
Swansea City v Sunderland
Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal
West Ham United v Manchester United

February 10, 2015

Arsenal v Leicester City
Crystal Palace v Newcastle United
Hull City v Aston Villa
Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester United v Burnley
Southampton v West Ham United
West Bromwich Albion v Swansea City

February 11, 2015

Chelsea v Everton
Stoke City v Manchester City
Sunderland v Queens Park Rangers

February 21, 2015

Aston Villa v Stoke City
Chelsea v Burnley
Crystal Palace v Arsenal
Everton v Leicester City
Hull City v Queens Park Rangers
Manchester City v Newcastle United
Southampton v Liverpool
Sunderland v West Bromwich Albion
Swansea City v Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham United

February 28, 2015

Arsenal v Everton
Burnley v Swansea City
Leicester City v Chelsea
Liverpool v Manchester City
Manchester United v Sunderland
Newcastle United v Aston Villa
Queens Park Rangers v Tottenham Hotspur
Stoke City v Hull City
West Bromwich Albion v Southampton
West Ham United v Crystal Palace

March 3, 2015

Aston Villa v West Bromwich Albion
Hull City v Sunderland
Liverpool v Burnley
Queens Park Rangers v Arsenal
Southampton v Crystal Palace
West Ham United v Chelsea

March 4, 2015

Manchester City v Leicester City
Newcastle United v Manchester United
Stoke City v Everton
Tottenham Hotspur v Swansea City

March 14, 2015

Arsenal v West Ham United
Burnley v Manchester City
Chelsea v Southampton
Crystal Palace v Queens Park Rangers
Everton v Newcastle United
Leicester City v Hull City
Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur
Sunderland v Aston Villa
Swansea City v Liverpool
West Bromwich Albion v Stoke City

March 21, 2015

Aston Villa v Swansea City
Hull City v Chelsea
Liverpool v Manchester United
Manchester City v West Bromwich Albion
Newcastle United v Arsenal
Queens Park Rangers v Everton
Southampton v Burnley
Stoke City v Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur v Leicester City
West Ham United v Sunderland

April 4, 2015

Arsenal v Liverpool
Burnley v Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea v Stoke City
Crystal Palace v Manchester City
Everton v Southampton
Leicester City v West Ham United
Manchester United v Aston Villa
Sunderland v Newcastle United
Swansea City v Hull City
West Bromwich Albion v Queens Park Rangers

April 11, 2015

Burnley v Arsenal
Liverpool v Newcastle United
Manchester United v Manchester City
Queens Park Rangers v Chelsea
Southampton v Hull City
Sunderland v Crystal Palace
Swansea City v Everton
Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v Leicester City
West Ham United v Stoke City

April 18, 2015

Arsenal v Sunderland
Aston Villa v Queens Park Rangers
Chelsea v Manchester United
Crystal Palace v West Bromwich Albion
Everton v Burnley
Hull City v Liverpool
Leicester City v Swansea City
Manchester City v West Ham United
Newcastle United v Tottenham Hotspur
Stoke City v Southampton

April 25, 2015

Arsenal v Chelsea
Burnley v Leicester City
Crystal Palace v Hull City
Everton v Manchester United
Manchester City v Aston Villa
Newcastle United v Swansea City
Queens Park Rangers v West Ham United
Southampton v Tottenham Hotspur
Stoke City v Sunderland
West Bromwich Albion v Liverpool

May 2, 2015

Aston Villa v Everton
Chelsea v Crystal Palace
Hull City v Arsenal
Leicester City v Newcastle United
Liverpool v Queens Park Rangers
Manchester United v West Bromwich Albion
Sunderland v Southampton
Swansea City v Stoke City
Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City
West Ham United v Burnley

May 9, 2015

Arsenal v Swansea City
Aston Villa v West Ham United
Chelsea v Liverpool
Crystal Palace v Manchester United
Everton v Sunderland
Hull City v Burnley
Leicester City v Southampton
Manchester City v Queens Park Rangers
Newcastle United v West Bromwich Albion
Stoke City v Tottenham Hotspur

May 16, 2015

Burnley v Stoke City
Liverpool v Crystal Palace
Manchester United v Arsenal
Queens Park Rangers v Newcastle United
Southampton v Aston Villa
Sunderland v Leicester City
Swansea City v Manchester City
Tottenham Hotspur v Hull City
West Bromwich Albion v Chelsea
West Ham United v Everton

May 24, 2015

Arsenal v West Bromwich Albion
Aston Villa v Burnley
Chelsea v Sunderland
Crystal Palace v Swansea City
Everton v Tottenham Hotspur
Hull City v Manchester United
Leicester City v Queens Park Rangers
Manchester City v Southampton
Newcastle United v West Ham United
Stoke City v Liverpool

Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on July 23, 2014, 06:05:16 PM
Lamela hit two so far vs Toronto.  He's a real exciting player, I hope he has a good season.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: soccerman on August 08, 2014, 06:21:02 PM
Another season about to start in a week, hopefully this season will be another thrilling one

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2156575-coach-lasso-returns-in-nbc-special-to-tease-the-201415-premier-league
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tiresais on August 09, 2014, 01:10:00 AM
Hah awesome vid
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on August 10, 2014, 08:29:31 PM
Quote
August 16, 2014

Arsenal v Crystal Palace
Burnley v Chelsea
Leicester City v Everton
Liverpool v Southampton
Manchester United v Swansea City
Newcastle United v Manchester City
Queens Park Rangers v Hull City
Stoke City v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v Sunderland
West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur

Which one of these fixtures is supposed to be scintillating?
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: chelsealife on August 10, 2014, 10:33:12 PM
Quote
August 16, 2014

Arsenal v Crystal Palace
Burnley v Chelsea
Leicester City v Everton
Liverpool v Southampton
Manchester United v Swansea City
Newcastle United v Manchester City
Queens Park Rangers v Hull City
Stoke City v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v Sunderland
West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur

Which one of these fixtures is supposed to be scintillating?
Watch all or kill urself lol.... Burnley vs Chelsea is gonna be a treat  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 11, 2014, 09:15:45 AM
Check out this app called "Sunrise". It integrates with Google calendar and you can add your teams fixture list to it:

Liverpool - Southampton -:-  EPL
Sunday, August 17 - 8:30 AM
Anfield, Liverpool, England
(http://r.sunrise.am/Z.c.t)
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: FF on August 11, 2014, 09:33:11 AM

Which one of these fixtures is supposed to be scintillating?

Liverpool Saints vs Soton reserves   ;D
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on August 12, 2014, 10:14:58 AM
Talk is some teams are toying with playing 3-5-2 as the swag system this season.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on August 12, 2014, 10:45:59 AM
Talk is some teams are toying with playing 3-5-2 as the swag system this season.


if it work ah wonder what people reaction here would be as opposed to when pacho saw its potential as our system......I have a friend dat coach youth football a while back........that swears that 3-5-2 should be T&Ts main system..........I remember man crying it dong and callin it all kinda dead system and f**keries.....conformist and followers that we are.......would be interesting to hear dey mout' if it proves to be a hit
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mose on August 12, 2014, 10:50:49 AM
Talk is some teams are toying with playing 3-5-2 as the swag system this season.


if it work ah wonder what people reaction here would be as opposed to when pacho saw its potential as our system......I have a friend dat coach youth football a while back........that swears that 3-5-2 should be T&Ts main system..........I remember man crying it dong and callin it all kinda dead system and f**keries.....conformist and followers that we are.......would be interesting to hear dey mout' if it proves to be a hit
It's been on my mind for sometime as a possibility I'd like to see us investigate. Question is who would be the wide men in that system?
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2014, 11:14:19 AM
To me Formations are overated. Some body HAVE to DEFEND and some have to attack.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mose on August 12, 2014, 11:51:42 AM
To me Formations are overated. Some body HAVE to DEFEND and some have to attack.
I would tend to agree, however, I think you're oversimplifying things.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on August 12, 2014, 12:35:19 PM
A formation is a "thing'' on paper. A system of play is/should be more than that. Moreover, frequently terms are conflated and fans don't distinguish between 'system' and 'shape'.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on August 12, 2014, 12:43:22 PM
One of our biggest problems is lapses in concentration. Formation doh fix that.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: FF on August 12, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
Talk is some teams are toying with playing 3-5-2 as the swag system this season.


if it work ah wonder what people reaction here would be as opposed to when pacho saw its potential as our system......I have a friend dat coach youth football a while back........that swears that 3-5-2 should be T&Ts main system..........I remember man crying it dong and callin it all kinda dead system and f**keries.....conformist and followers that we are.......would be interesting to hear dey mout' if it proves to be a hit

Was pacho ahead of his time or behind de times?
Formations and tactics come and go like style and fashion.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mose on August 12, 2014, 02:28:25 PM
A formation is a "thing'' on paper. A system of play is/should be more than that. Moreover, frequently terms are conflated and fans don't distinguish between 'system' and 'shape'.

I think yuh hit de nail on de head with that one! Well put!
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on August 12, 2014, 04:12:05 PM
Talk is some teams are toying with playing 3-5-2 as the swag system this season.


if it work ah wonder what people reaction here would be as opposed to when pacho saw its potential as our system......I have a friend dat coach youth football a while back........that swears that 3-5-2 should be T&Ts main system..........I remember man crying it dong and callin it all kinda dead system and f**keries.....conformist and followers that we are.......would be interesting to hear dey mout' if it proves to be a hit

Was pacho ahead of his time or behind de times?
Formations and tactics come and go like style and fashion.

yes but like all things experimental there is most times a period of uncertainty and failure.........most were not asking why we playin dat, but "who was still playing dat".........even latapy was drillin 3-5-2 running scrimmage in 3-5-2......which looked decent by the way and then jump back in he safe 4-4-2 jeans when it mattered .........yeah d system requires discipline  and wing men with stamina......but sometimes we have to come out dat box we like to pigeon hole weself into and really try someting......we too risk averse as ah people....no balls
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: mukumsplau on August 12, 2014, 09:29:12 PM
wingmen with alot of stamina

also, well i can tell you in italy, some prefer 3 at the back as alot of defenders arent comfortable in the central 2 positions of a back 4...and as someone said above...rel rel rel stamina is needed or else you can be skinned badly...alot of discipline to make sure and come back and defend..i dont know in this age of starboy-ism if players here willing to do same...

thats y manu maybe thinking of cuadrado...excellent winger that doesnt shun his defensive duties

too bad juve and fiorentina has such a bad relationship
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on August 13, 2014, 08:11:10 AM
Quote
August 16, 2014

Arsenal v Crystal Palace
Burnley v Chelsea
Leicester City v Everton
Liverpool v Southampton
Manchester United v Swansea City
Newcastle United v Manchester City
Queens Park Rangers v Hull City
Stoke City v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v Sunderland
West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur

Which one of these fixtures is supposed to be scintillating?
Watch all or kill urself lol.... Burnley vs Chelsea is gonna be a treat  ;D ;D

I imagine yuh comforted by Chelsea 2 Real Sociedad 0 ... and the fact iz Burnley.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: chelsealife on August 13, 2014, 01:17:45 PM
Quote
August 16, 2014

Arsenal v Crystal Palace
Burnley v Chelsea
Leicester City v Everton
Liverpool v Southampton
Manchester United v Swansea City
Newcastle United v Manchester City
Queens Park Rangers v Hull City
Stoke City v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v Sunderland
West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur

Which one of these fixtures is supposed to be scintillating?
Watch all or kill urself lol.... Burnley vs Chelsea is gonna be a treat  ;D ;D

I imagine yuh comforted by Chelsea 2 Real Sociedad 0 ... and the fact iz Burnley.
Lol Burnley actually plays good football, not expecting a walkover by any means. Just relieved that the BPL is back, my weekend breakfast lol
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tiresais on August 15, 2014, 01:55:25 PM
The Premier League just released their handbook (detailing all the rules and regulations) if anyone's interested;

http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/handbooks/premier-league-handbook-2014-15.pdf
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 16, 2014, 07:40:40 AM
Gotta say that I admire how Swansea is insistent on playing attractive football.  It is in their DNA.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 16, 2014, 07:48:59 AM
Gotta say that I admire how Swansea is insistent on playing attractive football.  It is in their DNA.

They were opportunistic if nothing else.  Sigurdsson was real class, and Williams had an interesting game, he gave away a needless corner which lead to Rooney's well-taken goal.  Other than that he was brilliant.  Swansea played a solid, solid game.  I'm keeping my eye on this Ander Herrera for United, he's turning into a bit of a diver early on.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 16, 2014, 08:37:02 AM
For the Liverpool fans... we have a Paul Konchesky sighting.  Leicester giving Everton fits.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 30, 2014, 10:04:20 AM
Swansea is the class of the league?
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 30, 2014, 10:05:20 AM
Stoke's bus was well appointed.
Newcastle-Palace = Match of the day
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 30, 2014, 10:09:45 AM
Stoke's bus was well appointed.
Newcastle-Palace = Match of the day

Harsh... they took their chances as well.  Brilliant solo effort from Diouf.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: grimm01 on August 30, 2014, 10:32:11 AM
Alex Song get unveiled as the latest West Ham loan signing. How the mighty have fallen, he's only 26 and should be in his prime.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: AB.Trini on August 30, 2014, 10:55:01 AM
Bullocks to the EPL - if only people talked up and was this excited about we local league- but like true to form we always had a tendency to see foreign as better and to downgrade we local
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 30, 2014, 10:58:53 AM
Bullocks to the EPL - if only people talked up and was this excited about we local league- but like true to form we always had a tendency to see foreign as better and to downgrade we local

True! Savannah football is better quality than this crap.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: AB.Trini on August 30, 2014, 11:05:15 AM
Yuh funnier than I thought- EPL is not crap and I could smell the satirical note - my contention is that we doh give the same credence to promote our own league- we doh look and talk about our local players to the degree that we do to the foreign ballets in my opinion, we idolize the EPL like these players are 'gods' of football
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on August 30, 2014, 11:54:30 AM
Yuh funnier than I thought- EPL is not crap and I could smell the satirical note - my contention is that we doh give the same credence to promote our own league- we doh look and talk about our local players to the degree that we do to the foreign ballets in my opinion, we idolize the EPL like these players are 'gods' of football

lol. At least yuh get it and ent start to cuss meh.
I just comment on football I could watch. I used to enjoy watching local football when I was there, but you have to admit, even when we get a feed of a game, the overall quality is poor. Is not like anybody idolizing the MLS, or the A-league and that would be "local" football for me.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on September 13, 2014, 09:06:53 AM
Used to be come match day forum would be humming.  Cracker between City and Arsenal earlier... and a good match on now between Swansea and Chelsea.  Liverpool at Villa later.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on September 13, 2014, 09:37:20 AM
Used to be come match day forum would be humming.  Cracker between City and Arsenal earlier... and a good match on now between Swansea and Chelsea.  Liverpool at Villa later.

costa putting on show right now!
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: chelsealife on September 13, 2014, 09:38:10 AM
Well played Diego Costa  :beermug:  :beermug: and Leonardo Ulloa is class as well for Leicester City, scored again today vs Stoke
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on September 15, 2014, 10:10:50 AM
Check Villa schedule: just played Liverpool, then Arsenal (H), Chelsea (A), Man City (H)and Everton (A)
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 15, 2014, 12:24:03 PM
Check Villa schedule: just played Liverpool, then Arsenal (H), Chelsea (A), Man City (H)and Everton (A)

Seem like the schedule makers eh like dem lol.  On paper if they finish that stretch with 6 points (counting the 3 already in the bag) that should be a moral victory.  With the way they been playing they might even come out with 9.  This hot start will surely help them avoid any kinda relegation worries as the season progresses.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: SWF Reporter on September 22, 2014, 02:34:53 PM
Satirical shorts: Racist twit violates Balotelli AND Ebola; Watch-out: Platini reveals his Jack Warner education; and small-minded Pellegrino gets hot for Mourinho

Bashing Balotelli, timeless Platini and small-minded Pellegrino
By Mr Live Wired (Wired868.com)

Liverpool striker Mario Balotelli saw something that tickled him during Manchester United’s controversial 5-3 loss to newly promoted Leicester City yesterday and tweeted: “Man Utd... LOL.”
Naturally, it was met with an explosive response from sad, little “fans” who saw it as an excuse to abuse the 24-year-old Italian football star.
The moment of Zen was provided by @CraigSainsbury who responded: “Got eat some bananas and get ebola you dirty monkey.” It was, arguably, racist abuse and bizarre and misguided health warning in equal measure.
Even the dreaded Ebola disease might have felt violated after being exploited in that way.
Mr Live Wire thinks if doctors are still agonising over testing possible ebola vaccines, they should skip the chimpanzees and go straight to this clever twit.
Merseyside Police is investigating the abuse, which is better than Balotelli might have expected in Italy. After the selection of Carlo “Drive-out-banana-eaters” Tavecchio as Italy FA president, Serie A clubs might have at least made @CraigSainsbury an honorary FA director.
Speaking about dodgy officials, can someone ask UEFA president Michel Platini what time it is?
Platini, a former France and Juventus football hero, is either the first millionaire who can’t tell the difference between a watch of symbolic and trivial value—as permitted by FIFA’s rules for gifts—and a £16,000 Parmigiani watch. Either that or Platini felt a watch that cost as much as most Trinbagonians’ cars was just another piece of crap that he tossed in his socks’ drawer.
Regardless, the FIFA Ethics Committee declared that Platini and his fellow gift loving FIFA executive committee members would have to give the watches back.
And Platini, a man who openly supported the controversial Qatar 2022 World Cup bid, declared that FIFA president Sepp Blatter could try prising the watch from his cold, twisted corpse. We paraphrased slightly.
“I’m a well-educated person,” said Platini. “I don’t return gifts.”
Read more: http://wired868.com/2014/09/22/satirical-shorts-bashing-balotelli-timeless-platini-and-small-minded-pellegrini/
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 22, 2014, 02:42:56 PM
I find credence in Platini's position. In his broader comments, he explains why. SWF, yuh underselling Platini here.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on October 18, 2014, 07:35:06 AM
A boring, high scoring game between City and Spurs
The crowd dead and making the game dead.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on October 18, 2014, 08:07:36 AM
goal boy oscar
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 19, 2014, 09:48:01 AM
A weekend of penalties ...
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on October 19, 2014, 07:46:28 PM
Liverpool vs. QPR... good game for the neutrals, four goals in the final 5 mins, three by QPR.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 20, 2014, 08:26:31 AM
Did not see 'Pool-QPR. But it appear to be one hell of a finish. Swansea-Stoke was also a good one. End to action and great saves by the keepers. But boy, these penalties are putting the official on notice. They may have to use instant replay for these incident.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 20, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
Liverpool gotta buy Berahino...this youth been doing it the last three seasons.  Suits our style of play too.  He will be on to a bigger club by next summer at the latest.  Knowing Spurs, they might come in for him in January, cause they need a striker.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on October 20, 2014, 07:09:56 PM
So how much Sunderland got for throwing the game?
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 20, 2014, 09:44:36 PM

So how much Sunderland got for throwing the game?

lol...trying to recall the last time ah team collect 8 in the EPL.  Was it Bolton against Man U.  Allardyce get fired after that.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Trini Madness on October 20, 2014, 10:44:29 PM
Liverpool gotta buy Berahino...this youth been doing it the last three seasons.  Suits our style of play too.  He will be on to a bigger club by next summer at the latest.  Knowing Spurs, they might come in for him in January, cause they need a striker.

i cant wait to see what origi has to offer. i heard he has been ripping up ligue 1. i think we should be redefining balotelli as a striker who can hold up the ball to allow lallana/coutinho or sterling push up to score goals, instead of letting him try to score the goals. i still have faith that balotelli will find rodgers rhythm, but that faith is slowly diminishing. 
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 21, 2014, 02:18:10 AM

So how much Sunderland got for throwing the game?

lol...trying to recall the last time ah team collect 8 in the EPL.  Was it Bolton against Man U.  Allardyce get fired after that.

Last time a team collected 8 without a response was Villa on Lampard's 500th appearance in the PL. Chelsea under Benitez.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 25, 2014, 08:25:27 AM
Outta road now, so ah doh know what happened subsequently , but de Hammers were balling! for the 30 minute portion I saw during the first half. Mancini had one of Wenger's furrowed looks.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2014, 08:32:06 AM
Outta road now, so ah doh know what happened subsequently , but de Hammers were balling! for the 30 minute portion I saw during the first half. Mancini had one of Wenger's furrowed looks.

Valencia and Sakho are making all the difference for West Ham.  Valencia set up Amalfitano for the first, Sakho scored the second.  City were pegged back from the opening, and it didn't help that Yaya Toure's had an inconsistent start to the season.  Ball went thru Silva too much today, though he did eventually pull one back for City.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 26, 2014, 11:29:09 AM
Trademark Drogba! Just what I hoped would happen for him today. Next thing to charge this game will be a red card.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 26, 2014, 11:55:08 AM
Wha ah say ... red card, free kick, goal!
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on October 26, 2014, 12:06:16 PM
Not even sure how much contact there was there.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on October 26, 2014, 12:09:04 PM
mou need to stop closin shop at 1-0 when he goh learn boy steups
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on October 26, 2014, 02:02:17 PM
mou need to stop closin shop at 1-0 when he goh learn boy steups

Alyuh need a parking ticket
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on October 26, 2014, 03:42:53 PM
mou need to stop closin shop at 1-0 when he goh learn boy steups

Alyuh need a parking ticket
I would bet money dat if chelsea kept playin to score we would have won both manchester games.....ah mean come on leicester kept playin and beat alyuh.....chelsea up 20min f**kin min to go an mou lookin to luck up.....we getting bull with dat shit since last season man steups
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 26, 2014, 05:18:06 PM
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I would bet money dat if chelsea kept playin to score we would have won both manchester games.....ah mean come on leicester kept playin and beat alyuh.....chelsea up 20min f**kin min to go an mou lookin to luck up.....we getting bull with dat shit since last season man steups

Ah hear yuh, but his calculation panned out to within mere "seconds"? Shouldn't he be having a strenuous conversation with Ivanovic instead?
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on October 26, 2014, 06:15:34 PM
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I would bet money dat if chelsea kept playin to score we would have won both manchester games.....ah mean come on leicester kept playin and beat alyuh.....chelsea up 20min f**kin min to go an mou lookin to luck up.....we getting bull with dat shit since last season man steups

Ah hear yuh, but his calculation panned out to within mere "seconds"? Shouldn't he be having a strenuous conversation with Ivanovic instead?

I agree on ivan, but still he's been closing shop with all kinda 40mins to go since last season.....even against team dat eh no real match.....dat everton game woulda be d same borin drek if everton wasn't scoring.......jose need to cool d micro management,damn team wasn't tryin to counter steups.....remember wasn't like 3mins u know was 20mins+


glad for drogba doh....been takin alot of stick lately for his performances
=
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 26, 2014, 06:17:10 PM
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I would bet money dat if chelsea kept playin to score we would have won both manchester games.....ah mean come on leicester kept playin and beat alyuh.....chelsea up 20min f**kin min to go an mou lookin to luck up.....we getting bull with dat shit since last season man steups

Ah hear yuh, but his calculation panned out to within mere "seconds"? Shouldn't he be having a strenuous conversation with Ivanovic instead?

I agree on ivan, but still he's been closing shop with all kinda 40mins to go since last season.....even against team dat eh no real match.....dat everton game woulda be d same borin drek if everton wasn't scoring.......jose need to cool d micro management,damn team wasn't tryin to counter steups.....remember wasn't like 3mins u know was 20mins+


glad for drogba doh....been takin alot of stick lately for his performances
=

From the introduction of Mikel?
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on October 26, 2014, 06:28:46 PM

From the introduction of Mikel?

pretty much if not before
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 26, 2014, 06:35:17 PM

From the introduction of Mikel?

pretty much if not before

Same thought occurred to me. However, I trusted his judgement.  :devil: :)
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on October 26, 2014, 07:33:30 PM

From the introduction of Mikel?

pretty much if not before

Same thought occurred to me. However, I trusted his judgement.  :devil: :)

teams are realizing that chelsea stop playing for goals when mikel comes in......it's obvious now that the tactic is played out......and does more harm than good
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 27, 2014, 09:54:59 AM
mou need to stop closin shop at 1-0 when he goh learn boy steups

Yeah because nobody couldn't tell that the sending off is what change de game nah, steups!  I does wonder about you oui.  You sure yuh is an actual Chelsea fan?  That game was pull and tug all the way.  Despite being biased I think many will concede we were the stronger team, yet we weren't penetrating enough or getting enough shots to bury them.  They, despite getting more shots were having their own difficulties as well.  So considering how the flow was going why not add more defensive help in attempts to secure the win?  You always going on and on with this same broken record bullshit.  If JoMo style doh suit yuh find ah nex team and stop fackin b!tchin nah.  Steups
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on October 27, 2014, 10:33:46 AM
mou need to stop closin shop at 1-0 when he goh learn boy steups

Yeah because nobody couldn't tell that the sending off is what change de game nah, steups!  I does wonder about you oui.  You sure yuh is an actual Chelsea fan?  That game was pull and tug all the way.  Despite being biased I think many will concede we were the stronger team, yet we weren't penetrating enough or getting enough shots to bury them.  They, despite getting more shots were having their own difficulties as well.  So considering how the flow was going why not add more defensive help in attempts to secure the win?  You always going on and on with this same broken record bullshit.  If JoMo style doh suit yuh find ah nex team and stop fackin b!tchin nah.  Steups

so because I find he does shutdown tings to early and bring undue pressure on team, I is not ah chelsea muddac**t fan, people saying d same damn ting I sayin on chelsea fan boards all over muddac**t interf**kingnet....he shutdown to quickily.....nobody say doh be cautious but for f**k sake man not with plenty game still to play.......regardless of the fact dat ivan get d card with 2min left....d cynical ball started too early both games.....
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 28, 2014, 09:15:45 AM
mou need to stop closin shop at 1-0 when he goh learn boy steups

Yeah because nobody couldn't tell that the sending off is what change de game nah, steups!  I does wonder about you oui.  You sure yuh is an actual Chelsea fan?  That game was pull and tug all the way.  Despite being biased I think many will concede we were the stronger team, yet we weren't penetrating enough or getting enough shots to bury them.  They, despite getting more shots were having their own difficulties as well.  So considering how the flow was going why not add more defensive help in attempts to secure the win?  You always going on and on with this same broken record bullshit.  If JoMo style doh suit yuh find ah nex team and stop fackin b!tchin nah.  Steups

so because I find he does shutdown tings to early and bring undue pressure on team, I is not ah chelsea muddac**t fan, people saying d same damn ting I sayin on chelsea fan boards all over muddac**t interf**kingnet....he shutdown to quickily.....nobody say doh be cautious but for f**k sake man not with plenty game still to play.......regardless of the fact dat ivan get d card with 2min left....d cynical ball started too early both games.....

All ah allyuh who sayin de same thing is assholes in my book because contrary to allyuh claims on more than one ocassion Mikel was way past half line passing the ball.  So he wasn't in a static role as in years past.  In fact in all the games he has been inserted thus far he has had numerous forrays into areas near the 18.  Jose actually trusts Mikel to do more than sit solely in front of the back line.  If allyuh was paying attention you would notice that.  Instead allyuh feel is gloom and doom because Mikel inserted as that means close up shop.  It actually means more steel in the middle but still with an eye on attack.  You feel we losing something when Oscar comes off and Fabregas move into the number 10 position.  Stop seein things so linear, I expect non Chelsea fans to miss these subtle changes not people who claiming to be fans and supposedly always watching the team.  He bring on Mikel with 23 minutes left.  The way you carryin on you'd swear he insert Mikel at halftime or right after we score and say "awrite I good dey."  If Jose was approching this game with any caution whatsoever he would have probably started both Mikel and Matic.  This was never about being cautious as much as it was about being pragmatic.  Jose realize we gettin chances but they getting a lot more so he insert an additional obstacle to them knocking the ball around midfield.  Wha de ass so hard to understand and accept in dat?
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on October 28, 2014, 11:57:10 AM

All ah allyuh who sayin de same thing is assholes in my book because contrary to allyuh claims on more than one ocassion Mikel was way past half line passing the ball.  So he wasn't in a static role as in years past.  In fact in all the games he has been inserted thus far he has had numerous forrays into areas near the 18.  Jose actually trusts Mikel to do more than sit solely in front of the back line.  If allyuh was paying attention you would notice that.  Instead allyuh feel is gloom and doom because Mikel inserted as that means close up shop.  It actually means more steel in the middle but still with an eye on attack.  You feel we losing something when Oscar comes off and Fabregas move into the number 10 position.  Stop seein things so linear, I expect non Chelsea fans to miss these subtle changes not people who claiming to be fans and supposedly always watching the team.  He bring on Mikel with 23 minutes left.  The way you carryin on you'd swear he insert Mikel at halftime or right after we score and say "awrite I good dey."  If Jose was approching this game with any caution whatsoever he would have probably started both Mikel and Matic.  This was never about being cautious as much as it was about being pragmatic.  Jose realize we gettin chances but they getting a lot more so he insert an additional obstacle to them knocking the ball around midfield.  Wha de ass so hard to understand and accept in dat?

let's get someting clear hear, I doh tink d introduction of mikel spells doom and gloom........but d drop in tempo does be glaring.....and I understand full well that he is following instructions.........but why does chelsea's willingness to attack have drop off, d man could be solid and still keep things going forward......he did it at everton...sick assist dat....my grouse it not about mikel........it''s about protecting weak leads with cynical tactics .......off late it eh wukkin.....as simple as dat.....we coulda try harder for second goal, even when mikel come on... d man could do d job.....steups

play dead ketch corbeaux alive...not just play dead
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 28, 2014, 12:03:36 PM

All ah allyuh who sayin de same thing is assholes in my book because contrary to allyuh claims on more than one ocassion Mikel was way past half line passing the ball.  So he wasn't in a static role as in years past.  In fact in all the games he has been inserted thus far he has had numerous forrays into areas near the 18.  Jose actually trusts Mikel to do more than sit solely in front of the back line.  If allyuh was paying attention you would notice that.  Instead allyuh feel is gloom and doom because Mikel inserted as that means close up shop.  It actually means more steel in the middle but still with an eye on attack.  You feel we losing something when Oscar comes off and Fabregas move into the number 10 position.  Stop seein things so linear, I expect non Chelsea fans to miss these subtle changes not people who claiming to be fans and supposedly always watching the team.  He bring on Mikel with 23 minutes left.  The way you carryin on you'd swear he insert Mikel at halftime or right after we score and say "awrite I good dey."  If Jose was approching this game with any caution whatsoever he would have probably started both Mikel and Matic.  This was never about being cautious as much as it was about being pragmatic.  Jose realize we gettin chances but they getting a lot more so he insert an additional obstacle to them knocking the ball around midfield.  Wha de ass so hard to understand and accept in dat?

let's get someting clear hear, I doh tink d introduction of mikel spells doom and gloom........but d drop in tempo does be glaring.....and I understand full well that he is following instructions.........but why does chelsea's willingness to attack have drop off, d man could be solid and still keep things going forward......he did it at everton...sick assist dat....my grouse it not about mikel........it''s about protecting weak leads with cynical tactics .......off late it eh wukkin.....as simple as dat.....we coulda try harder for second goal, even when mikel come on... d man could do d job.....steups

play dead ketch corbeaux alive...not just play dead

I hear yuh hoss. 
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on November 01, 2014, 07:40:10 AM
Liverpool just suffered through that first half. Aside from a few trademark Gerrard passes, Balo's back heel etc. What was there? Yet a goal might come against the run of play.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on November 01, 2014, 09:51:07 AM
That tackle on Balo should gave been a straight red. He did not even try to go for the ball, just hack Balo down. Not good.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on November 01, 2014, 01:12:43 PM
The officiating in the Newcastle v. Liverpool game was an absolute joke.  Newcastle should have finished that game with 9 men, including yes... a straight red on Janmaat for that tackle.  He even had another late challenge in the middle of the pitch that was simple foul, while he was already on a yellow.  Earlier Cisse had a break leg tackle from behind on Allen that was studs mid shin, no contact on the ball... only a yellow. But say what.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on November 01, 2014, 01:13:43 PM
That tackle on Balo should gave been a straight red. He did not even try to go for the ball, just hack Balo down. Not good.

Saw the replay. Didn't see it in full flow. Was gehhin ready to bounce.

Balo wasn't any where near a danger zone, was he? ... to merit that kinda temporary insanity defending.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on November 01, 2014, 01:15:09 PM
Saw the replay. Didn't see it in full flow. Was gehhin ready to bounce.

Balo wasn't any where near a danger zone, was he? ... to merit that kinda temporary insanity defending.

Was a frustration tackle... making it even clearer that it was intentional and not an attempt to play the ball.  Ridiculous.

https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/AE472535E41140333799939416064_37806909569.0.1.16926074602776837646.mp4?versionId=Gxw_uXn4pFl6js9zb9T69m4_Ec8wk5rd
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on November 01, 2014, 01:23:53 PM
Saw the replay. Didn't see it in full flow. Was gehhin ready to bounce.

Balo wasn't any where near a danger zone, was he? ... to merit that kinda temporary insanity defending.

Was a frustration tackle... making it even clearer that it was intentional and not an attempt to play the ball.  Ridiculous.

https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/AE472535E41140333799939416064_37806909569.0.1.16926074602776837646.mp4?versionId=Gxw_uXn4pFl6js9zb9T69m4_Ec8wk5rd

One might have thought Marriner would have been influenced by the preceding foul ...
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on November 02, 2014, 08:14:32 AM
Smalling is a dumbass!
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on November 02, 2014, 09:29:21 AM
man u cyah do nutten useful atall boy steups
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on November 02, 2014, 05:00:22 PM
Southampton ??? .................beneficiaries of a lucky draw........or a real threat....wah alyuh tink, swansea was up dey too.... den kinda melt away.... demk lookin like dey up for it doh.............even if u factor in that they lost to "big sides".... :D well kinda
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bourbon on November 02, 2014, 08:25:46 PM
Southampton has always been a decent club in my view. Just like Sevilla... Always end up selling their prospects to the big clubs.. Yet still retain competitiveness and keep churning out more
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on November 02, 2014, 11:57:36 PM
Southampton is the real deal, the #2, 3 and 4 ranked defenders in fantasy are Soton players.  Can't read too much into fantasy stats, but the scores (and those of the midfield players) tell you that the team is defending extremely well as a unit.  That is always a recipe for success.  Additionally, I'm tempted to think that there's just something about their philosophy which gets the best out of their players.  Lovren, Lallana, Shaw and Chambers all look like ordinary players now.  Meanwhile Clyne, Schneiderlin, Tadic, Mane and Pelle are all having career years.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on November 03, 2014, 06:27:39 AM
Southampton is the real deal, the #2, 3 and 4 ranked defenders in fantasy are Soton players.  Can't read too much into fantasy stats, but the scores (and those of the midfield players) tell you that the team is defending extremely well as a unit.  That is always a recipe for success.  Additionally, I'm tempted to think that there's just something about their philosophy which gets the best out of their players.  Lovren, Lallana, Shaw and Chambers all look like ordinary players now.  Meanwhile Clyne, Schneiderlin, Tadic, Mane and Pelle are all having career years.
Southampton has always been a decent club in my view. Just like Sevilla... Always end up selling their prospects to the big clubs.. Yet still retain competitiveness and keep churning out more

yeah dey does look good playin dey style, solid defense with more than enough enterprise and adventure to keep yuh interested .....eh see an entire game yet though.....can't wait for dem vs chelsea........

never try to watch ah whole
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on November 08, 2014, 12:31:30 PM
Eh, that 1st half in the QPRvCity game was madness.

2 disallowed QPR goals
QPR take the lead on a debatable offside
City hit back with a debatable offside, and hand ball goal.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on November 08, 2014, 01:07:11 PM
Eh, that 1st half in the QPRvCity game was madness.

2 disallowed QPR goals
QPR take the lead on a debatable offside
City hit back with a debatable offside, and hand ball goal.

and now an own-goal!

The improvement in QPR in the last few weeks has been amazing.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on November 08, 2014, 01:10:48 PM
Eh, that 1st half in the QPRvCity game was madness.

2 disallowed QPR goals
QPR take the lead on a debatable offside
City hit back with a debatable offside, and hand ball goal.

and now an own-goal!

The improvement in QPR in the last few weeks has been amazing.


Zamora had Demichelis in knots on that cross.

Bachanal this game.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on November 08, 2014, 01:12:11 PM
Eh, that 1st half in the QPRvCity game was madness.

2 disallowed QPR goals
QPR take the lead on a debatable offside
City hit back with a debatable offside, and hand ball goal.

and now an own-goal!

The improvement in QPR in the last few weeks has been amazing.


Zamora had Demichelis in knots on that cross.

Bachanal this game.

Same ball as the first City goal, no handball this time.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on November 22, 2014, 01:37:43 PM
Hard luck dey, Arsenal. Pity allyuh eh get at least ah point.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on November 22, 2014, 01:53:04 PM
Albion and Chelsea was sleep-inducing ... probably might have been a slightly different game, but not necessarily outcome ... had Costa's goal been ruled offside. As typically happens, the good luck genie will probably tax Chelsea on a bigger stage ... perhaps the CL.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on December 14, 2014, 08:18:30 AM
Man Utd v Liverpool

Sturridge's absence being felt here. Pool cyah even buy a vowel.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Spursy on December 18, 2014, 12:31:22 PM
Balotelli handed one-match ban
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Liverpool striker Mario Balotelli has been banned for one match, fined £25,000 and ordered to attend to an education course after making racist and anti-semitic comments on social media.

The Italian international last week accepted a charge of an aggravated breach of Football Association rule E3, relating to references of ethnic origin, colour, race, nationality or religion or belief, after his posting of an image of computer game character Super Mario on Instagram.

Balotelli did not request a personal hearing but submitted written mitigation to an independent disciplinary panel. The FA said in a statement: "Following an independent regulatory commission hearing today Mario Balotelli has been fined £25,000, suspended for one-match with immediate effect, subject to any appeal, and warned as to his future conduct after he admitted breaching FA rules in relation to social media.

"The charge was that an image the Liverpool player posted on social media was abusive and/or insulting and/or improper, contrary to FA rule E3(1). Furthermore, the posting was considered to be an "aggravated breach" as defined in FA rule E3(2) in that it included a reference to ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race and/or nationality and/or religion or belief. Mr Balotelli has also been ordered to attend an education programme."

Liverpool said they were awaiting the full written verdict from the panel but did not rule out further action against the player by the club. A Liverpool spokesman said: "The club acknowledges the decision reached by the independent panel and due consideration will be given to the written judgement once we receive it from the FA.

"Any further action taken by ourselves in relation to this matter is between the club and player." The day after his posting - which he quickly deleted - Balotelli apologised by writing on Twitter: "I apologize if I've offended anyone. The post was meant to be anti-racist with humour. I now understand that out of context (it) may have the opposite effect."

Balotelli, 24, deleted the offending post as criticism began to mount but FA guidelines state that "deleting an inappropriate posting, whilst advisable, does not necessarily prevent disciplinary action being taken".

The striker will now miss Liverpool's match at home to Arsenal on Sunday, subject to any appeal.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Spursy on December 20, 2014, 02:08:27 PM
City reel Chelsea in, Falcao ends United wait
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Manchester City beat Crystal Palace 3-0 to move level with Premier League leaders Chelsea, while Radamel Falco earned Manchester United a 1-1 draw at Aston Villa.

City were missing Sergio Aguero, Edin Dzeko and Stevan Jovetic due to injury, but they secured an eighth consecutive win in all competitions thanks to David Silva's second-half brace and a late Yaya Toure strike. Victory left City level on 39 points with Chelsea, who remain top by virtue of a superior goal difference (+23 to +22) ahead of their trip to Stoke City on Monday.

"It was a very good win," City manager Manuel Pellegrini said. "A very good performance. I enjoyed the way the team worked the whole week -- to work in a different way without strikers. I did think December is a key month to be in the fight for the title, and if you want to be involved you must be very near the top of the table. I hope we continue playing like this."

United spurned a chance to close on Chelsea after dropping points for the first time in seven matches at Villa, who had Gabriel Agbonlahor sent off in the 65th minute for a foul on former team-mate Ashley Young. The draw ended United's run of six straight wins and left Louis van Gaal's side seven points off the pace in third place, while West Ham United, Southampton and Tottenham Hotspur all closed on them.

At the Etihad Stadium, City started with James Milner as an auxiliary striker and after growing into the game, the champions went ahead four minutes into the second half. From Fernandinho's pass, Pablo Zabaleta scuttled into the area before cutting the ball back for Silva, who beat Julian Speroni with the aid of a deflection off Scott Dann.

Silva claimed his second goal in the 61st minute, neatly steering home at the near post from Aleksandar Kolarov's left-wing centre. James McArthur thought he had replied for Palace moments later when he headed Yannick Bolasie's cross past Hart, but although Fernandinho appeared to have played him onside, the assistant referee's flag went up. Toure made the game safe for City in the 81st minute, collecting a square pass from Milner and slamming home left-footed at the near post.

Villa frustrate United, Austin scores hat-trick in QPR win
Christian Benteke put Villa 1-0 up in the 18th minute at home against United by chesting down a deep free-kick, stepping inside Jonny Evans and curling a fine left-foot shot inside the left-hand post.

David de Gea produced a stunning save to tip a header from Benteke over the bar early in the second half, before Falcao met Young's cross with a powerful 53rd-minute header to claim his first goal since October. United's record signing Angel di Maria made his return from a hamstring injury as a replacement for Robin van Persie, but despite Agbonlahor being shown a straight red card for catching Young, Villa held on.

Fourth-place West Ham are now just a point behind United after beating bottom club Leicester City 2-0 at Upton Park. Andy Carroll seized on West Ham old boy Paul Konchesky's disastrous back-pass to put the hosts ahead in the 24th minute and Stewart Downing made it 2-0 in the 56th minute with a stunning 25-yard effort.

Southampton are two points further back after ending a five-game losing streak by beating Everton 3-0 thanks to a Romelu Lukaku own goal and second-half efforts from Graziano Pelle and Maya Yoshida.

Tottenham leapfrogged Arsenal, who host Liverpool on Sunday, by beating Burnley 2-1. Ashley Barnes cancelled out Harry Kane's headed opener for Spurs with a blistering shot from 20 yards, but Erik Lamela gave the hosts victory with a swerving long-range effort ten minutes before half-time.

Charlie Austin took his tally for the season to 11 goals with a hat-trick as Queens Park Rangers came from 2-0 down to win 3-2 at home to West Bromwich Albion, who scored through Joleon Lescott and Silvestre Varela. The win took QPR out of the relegation zone, but Hull City remain in the bottom three after Jonjo Shelvey's shot deflected in off Ki Sung-Yueng to earn Swansea City a 1-0 victory at the KC Stadium
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Deeks on December 30, 2014, 12:28:06 PM
What!!!!!!!!!!!!! This forum have to be drunk. Liverpool beat Swansea and not an iota of comment? Pool fans, allyuh is macajuel now. All that food and liquor put allyuh to sleep!!!!
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on December 30, 2014, 02:13:14 PM
What!!!!!!!!!!!!! This forum have to be drunk. Liverpool beat Swansea and not an iota of comment? Pool fans, allyuh is macajuel now. All that food and liquor put allyuh to sleep!!!!

Daiz cause they know that "new" tactics cyah win nothing other than a few games vs middle level teams.

Swansea didn't even try to do anything. They just went through the motion.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: elan on January 17, 2015, 01:25:43 PM
Shocking o call by the Ref to deny NC a penalty on a blatant handball.

On the other side Elia made himself known.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on March 21, 2015, 07:11:43 AM
I don't know what went on with that red card, but the ref make this game real boring.
Pulis have no problems dropping everybody into the box.

Navas must have some dirt on Pellegrini, his wide play and crosses are terrible.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 21, 2015, 10:13:37 AM
Newcastle scored a beautiful goal on the Gunners. But Arsenal holding on 2-1.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bakes on March 21, 2015, 01:55:14 PM
I don't know what went on with that red card, but the ref make this game real boring.
Pulis have no problems dropping everybody into the box.

Navas must have some dirt on Pellegrini, his wide play and crosses are terrible.

His crosses are errant at times, but his pace and playmaking ability on the right are a real threat.  Not sure they have a replacement for him in bothy attack and defense on the right.

Newcastle scored a beautiful goal on the Gunners. But Arsenal holding on 2-1.

It really was a sweet goal... Ayoze Perez is a player, as is Remy Cabella.  I thought the two of them, Mousa Sissokho and Darryl Janmaat were the standout players for Newcastle and the first three combined nicely to slice Arsenal apart for the Newcastle goal.  Newcastle were unfortunate not to get anything from the game, good game for the neutral, despite the low score.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 21, 2015, 02:20:26 PM
The build up for Newcastle goal was absolutely delightful. Bakes, you are correct that Newcastle were unfortunate not to get a point from their endeavor today.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 21, 2015, 03:04:09 PM
I know this is not the Italian league thread. Just saw an equalizing goal by Cagliari against AC. AC in the Cag. area making short passes and they lost it. Cagliari took the ball from their area to Milan area with 5 passes. The Cagliari left wing put Mexes on his bottom with a wicked beat and as the keeper try to make the goal small, the Cag. forward slid the ball under the keeper for a wonderful goal. But guess what, credit to AC, the scored within 3 mins to take the lead again. Mexes, the man who was on the receiving end two mins ago, scored a wicked half volley from a corner kick. What a way to recover. Nice game.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on March 21, 2015, 04:20:11 PM
The build up for Newcastle goal was absolutely delightful. Bakes, you are correct that Newcastle were unfortunate not to get a point from their endeavor today.
Arsenal lost the midfield battle in the second half but were equally unfortunate not to be out of sight by half time, slicing through Newcastle at will late in the first.

The team couldn't get out of their half in the second period but dealt well with Newcastle's attack with strong penalty box defending and excellent goalkeeping.

Oh and Arsenal now lead the league in set piece goals. Who would have thought?
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 06, 2015, 02:11:05 PM
I repeat again. I don't know how Navas keeps getting a sweat.

Pardew for Manager of the Year?
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 06, 2015, 02:15:54 PM
Crystal Palace 2-0 up lol.  Pellegrini ask the 4th official to signal a sub for Kompany and then what happened, he changed his mind?
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Deeks on April 06, 2015, 02:56:55 PM
2-1, Palace? Was not expecting that!
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on April 06, 2015, 03:22:11 PM
 ;D chelsea need all d help dey could get....dey runnin outa steam and fast
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 07, 2015, 01:58:32 PM
I love a relegation battle.
Villa vs QPR. 2-2

Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 07, 2015, 02:25:58 PM
Benteke is a beast!

3-3!
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 07, 2015, 02:41:13 PM
Game ends QPR 3 - Benteke 3. With another great goal to cap off a weekend of great goals.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: soccerman on April 08, 2015, 09:04:28 AM
Game ends QPR 3 - Benteke 3. With another great goal to cap off a weekend of great goals.
For a team in a relegation battle, QPR don't play bad at all. It's actually surprising to see them at the bottom of the table.
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on April 26, 2015, 08:18:16 AM
man u getting ah tactical beat down from everton
Title: Re: 2014/15 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 16, 2015, 06:12:57 AM
Villa trying hard to get relegated.
4-0, 27 minutes gone.
Should have been 5-0, Pelle had a good goal disallowed.

Mane get a hat-trick in 3 minutes.  :whip:
Title: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on June 14, 2015, 09:02:02 AM
West Ham to appoint 'club legend' to help Slaven Bilic
Jason Burt (The Telegraph).


West Ham United are planning to hire at least one former player – a "club legend" – to help new manager Slaven Bilic.

Names have already been put forward with West Ham hoping to replicate the success of Teddy Sheringham who worked as an attacking coach under Sam Allardyce and is now the manager of Stevenage.

Possible candidates include: John Hartson, Tony Cottee, Don Hutchinson and Dean Ashton while another idea is to also employ someone such as Julian Dicks on the staff. Bilic is himself a former West Ham player, of course.

No-one has yet been approached and it all depends on who wants to do it – and what coaching badges they have.

A more immediate concern for Bilic, who flew into London on Friday to start his new job, and with West Ham playing their first competitive match, in the Europa League, two weeks on Thursday, is to obtain work permits for two of his trusted backroom staff.

It is a formality for one of the Croatians, Edin Terzic, as he was born in Menden, Germany, and has an EU passport but for the other two, Nikola Jurcevic, the first-team coach, and Miljenko Rak, the fitness coach, there may be a hearing this week with West Ham hoping, given their vast experience, they will be backed by the Football Association.

Slaven Bilic appointed new West Ham manager
Jeremy Wilson (The Telegraph).


Slaven Bilic has set himself the target of turning West Ham United into Champions League challengers and is today also expected to make Sampdoria midfielder Peter Obiang his first signing.

Bilic was yesterday confirmed as the successor to Sam Allardyce on a three-year contract worth around £3 million per season and the club have also provisionally agreed a £4.3 million deal for Obiang, a 23-year-old former Spain Under-21 international. They are hoping to add as many as four other players this summer, although winger Andrew Ayew, who is out of contract at Marseille, was yesterday in talks to join Marseille.

Bilic move could prove inspired but it's a big risk.

West Ham turned to Bilic after missing out on a series of other managerial targets and, although his appointment has been enthusiastically welcomed by fans, the club have inserted a clause that would mean he would leave with no compensation in the event of relegation next season. Bilic has made it clear that he is aiming for a top half finish and then steadily build towards regular European football after the move to the Olympic Stadium next year. “The ambition is to try to be top ten, definitely and then improve on that,” he said. “First season, if we can finish eighth, ninth or tenth. Then, in the space of a few seasons, with the stadium and everything, with hype, with probably a little bit more budget, with good planning and good play, nobody can stop us dreaming of European places or if we have a brilliant season to try to break into the Champions League places."

Carlo Ancelotti, Rafa Benitez, Jurgen Klopp, David Moyes, Marcelo Bielsa and Unai Emery are among the other managers that were approached either directly or indirectly for the job, with West Ham hoping that the prospect of moving into the 54,000-seat capacity Olympic Stadium next season would help them lure a high-profile replacement. They now want Bilic to take the team to what they regard as the “next level” and be challenging for trophies. The move to the

Olympic Stadium will transform the club’s potential, particularly its matchday and commercial revenues, and there will be immediate scope for significant squad investment. Bilic will begin work later this month ahead of a first Europa League match on July 2.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03335/BILIC_ARRY_3335296b.jpg)
Bilic became a cult hero at West Ham after Redknapp signed him from Karlsruher SC

Although replacing Allardcye with Bilic is clearly a risk in this final season at Upton Park before the move to the Olympic Stadium, he will begin with huge goodwill from fans after previously playing for the club in the 1990s. “It is a great place to play and I felt like I was at home,” said Bilic yesterday. “I could feel that they really wanted me so it was an easy choice. I remember West Ham as a special club. I love these kind of special clubs. My last club, Besiktas, was that kind of club. It's not about the size - there is something special about them - they are a cult club. It is not only business; it is personal, it is emotional.

"It’s impossible to have a bigger bond with a club in such a small period of time. Every day was something special and the fans at that point wanted us to not only stay up and win the game but to win in style but they wanted to see good football. It was not just about winning.”

David Sullivan and David Gold, the West Ham co-owners, have said that “there isn’t a more exciting job in the Premier League at present”.

Bilic’s past history with the club was certainly important, with Sullivan and Gold keen to appoint a manager who more in tune with the club’s fans and the so-called ‘West Ham Way’ than Allardyce. Yet while Bilic is assured a longer honeymoon, it will not be easy to immediately better Allardyce’s record. Having got West Ham promoted from the Championship in 2012, Allardyce has since established the club in the Premier League.

Although Bilic was hugely successful during six years with Croatia, peaking with the quarter-finals of Euro 2008, his club career has been more mixed. He spent one season with Lokomotiv Moscow but was sacked after leading the club to their worst league finish (ninth) since the Russian championship was formed in 1992. He then joined Besiktas in the Turkish Super Lig and they finished third in both seasons under him.

West Ham will hope that the combination of additional funds ahead of the stadium move and Bilic’s own popularity can recreate the sort of momentum, spirit and fervour that underpinned his success with Croatia. Rio Ferdinand, the former England captain, played with Bilic at West Ham previously and said that he was a personality who commanded dressing-room respect.

“He's a solid appointment,” said Ferdinand. “He had 18 months at West Ham where he was a very good player and someone I looked up to as a defender”.

Asked if he used to enjoy a “crafty cigarette” – Bilic would sometimes be seen smoking around the Croatia training base when he was manager – Ferdinand said: “You'll have to ask him that. He was a fantastic guy, a great professional.”
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Flex on June 17, 2015, 11:32:53 AM
Saturday, August 8th, 2015

AFC Bournemouth v Aston Villa
Arsenal v West Ham United
Chelsea v Swansea City
Everton v Watford
Leicester City v Sunderland
Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur
Newcastle United v Southampton
Norwich City v Crystal Palace
Stoke City v Liverpool
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester City

Saturday, August 15th, 2015

Aston Villa v Manchester United
Crystal Palace v Arsenal
Liverpool v AFC Bournemouth
Manchester City v Chelsea
Southampton v Everton
Sunderland v Norwich City
Swansea City v Newcastle United
Tottenham Hotspur v Stoke City
Watford v West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United v Leicester City

Saturday, August 22nd, 2015

Arsenal v Liverpool
Crystal Palace v Aston Villa
Everton v Manchester City
Leicester City v Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester United v Newcastle United
Norwich City v Stoke City
Sunderland v Swansea City
Watford v Southampton
West Bromwich Albion v Chelsea
West Ham United v AFC Bournemouth

Saturday, August 29th, 2015

AFC Bournemouth v Leicester City
Aston Villa v Sunderland
Chelsea v Crystal Palace
Liverpool v West Ham United
Manchester City v Watford
Newcastle United v Arsenal
Southampton v Norwich City
Stoke City v West Bromwich Albion
Swansea City v Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur v Everton

Saturday, September 12th, 2015

Arsenal v Stoke City
Crystal Palace v Manchester City
Everton v Chelsea
Leicester City v Aston Villa
Manchester United v Liverpool
Norwich City v AFC Bournemouth
Sunderland v Tottenham Hotspur
Watford v Swansea City
West Bromwich Albion v Southampton
West Ham United v Newcastle United

Saturday, September 19th, 2015

AFC Bournemouth v Sunderland
Aston Villa v West Bromwich Albion
Chelsea v Arsenal
Liverpool v Norwich City
Manchester City v West Ham United
Newcastle United v Watford
Southampton v Manchester United
Stoke City v Leicester City
Swansea City v Everton
Tottenham Hotspur v Crystal Palace

Saturday, September 26th, 2015

Leicester City v Arsenal
Liverpool v Aston Villa
Manchester United v Sunderland
Newcastle United v Chelsea
Southampton v Swansea City
Stoke City v AFC Bournemouth
Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City
Watford v Crystal Palace
West Bromwich Albion v Everton
West Ham United v Norwich City

Saturday, October 3rd, 2015

AFC Bournemouth v Watford
Arsenal v Manchester United
Aston Villa v Stoke City
Chelsea v Southampton
Crystal Palace v West Bromwich Albion
Everton v Liverpool
Manchester City v Newcastle United
Norwich City v Leicester City
Sunderland v West Ham United
Swansea City v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday, October 17th, 2015

Chelsea v Aston Villa
Crystal Palace v West Ham United
Everton v Manchester United
Manchester City v AFC Bournemouth
Newcastle United v Norwich City
Southampton v Leicester City
Swansea City v Stoke City
Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool
Watford v Arsenal
West Bromwich Albion v Sunderland

Saturday, October 24th, 2015

AFC Bournemouth v Tottenham Hotspur
Arsenal v Everton
Aston Villa v Swansea City
Leicester City v Crystal Palace
Liverpool v Southampton
Manchester United v Manchester City
Norwich City v West Bromwich Albion
Stoke City v Watford
Sunderland v Newcastle United
West Ham United v Chelsea

Saturday, October 31st, 2015

Chelsea v Liverpool
Crystal Palace v Manchester United
Everton v Sunderland
Manchester City v Norwich City
Newcastle United v Stoke City
Southampton v AFC Bournemouth
Swansea City v Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa
Watford v West Ham United
West Bromwich Albion v Leicester City

Saturday, November 7th, 2015

AFC Bournemouth v Newcastle United
Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur
Aston Villa v Manchester City
Leicester City v Watford
Liverpool v Crystal Palace
Manchester United v West Bromwich Albion
Norwich City v Swansea City
Stoke City v Chelsea
Sunderland v Southampton
West Ham United v Everton

Saturday, November 21st, 2015

Chelsea v Norwich City
Crystal Palace v Sunderland
Everton v Aston Villa
Manchester City v Liverpool
Newcastle United v Leicester City
Southampton v Stoke City
Swansea City v AFC Bournemouth
Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham United
Watford v Manchester United
West Bromwich Albion v Arsenal

Saturday, November 28th, 2015

AFC Bournemouth v Everton
Aston Villa v Watford
Crystal Palace v Newcastle United
Leicester City v Manchester United
Liverpool v Swansea City
Manchester City v Southampton
Norwich City v Arsenal
Sunderland v Stoke City
Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea
West Ham United v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday, December 5th, 2015

Arsenal v Sunderland
Chelsea v AFC Bournemouth
Everton v Crystal Palace
Manchester United v West Ham United
Newcastle United v Liverpool
Southampton v Aston Villa
Stoke City v Manchester City
Swansea City v Leicester City
Watford v Norwich City
West Bromwich Albion v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday, December 12th, 2015

AFC Bournemouth v Manchester United
Aston Villa v Arsenal
Crystal Palace v Southampton
Leicester City v Chelsea
Liverpool v West Bromwich Albion
Manchester City v Swansea City
Norwich City v Everton
Sunderland v Watford
Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United
West Ham United v Stoke City

Saturday, December 19th, 2015

Arsenal v Manchester City
Chelsea v Sunderland
Everton v Leicester City
Manchester United v Norwich City
Newcastle United v Aston Villa
Southampton v Tottenham Hotspur
Stoke City v Crystal Palace
Swansea City v West Ham United
Watford v Liverpool
West Bromwich Albion v AFC Bournemouth

Saturday, December 26th, 2015

AFC Bournemouth v Crystal Palace
Aston Villa v West Ham United
Chelsea v Watford
Liverpool v Leicester City
Manchester City v Sunderland
Newcastle United v Everton
Southampton v Arsenal
Stoke City v Manchester United
Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion
Tottenham Hotspur v Norwich City

Monday, December 28th, 2015

Arsenal v AFC Bournemouth
Crystal Palace v Swansea City
Everton v Stoke City
Leicester City v Manchester City
Manchester United v Chelsea
Norwich City v Aston Villa
Sunderland v Liverpool
Watford v Tottenham Hotspur
West Bromwich Albion v Newcastle United
West Ham United v Southampton

Saturday, January 2nd, 2016

Arsenal v Newcastle United
Crystal Palace v Chelsea
Everton v Tottenham Hotspur
Leicester City v AFC Bournemouth
Manchester United v Swansea City
Norwich City v Southampton
Sunderland v Aston Villa
Watford v Manchester City
West Bromwich Albion v Stoke City
West Ham United v Liverpool

Tuesday, January 12th, 2016

AFC Bournemouth v West Ham United
Aston Villa v Crystal Palace
Liverpool v Arsenal
Swansea City v Sunderland

Wednesday, January 13th, 2016

Chelsea v West Bromwich Albion
Manchester City v Everton
Newcastle United v Manchester United
Southampton v Watford
Stoke City v Norwich City
Tottenham Hotspur v Leicester City

Saturday, January 16th, 2016

AFC Bournemouth v Norwich City
Aston Villa v Leicester City
Chelsea v Everton
Liverpool v Manchester United
Manchester City v Crystal Palace
Newcastle United v West Ham United
Southampton v West Bromwich Albion
Stoke City v Arsenal
Swansea City v Watford
Tottenham Hotspur v Sunderland

Saturday, January 23rd, 2016

Arsenal v Chelsea
Crystal Palace v Tottenham Hotspur
Everton v Swansea City
Leicester City v Stoke City
Manchester United v Southampton
Norwich City v Liverpool
Sunderland v AFC Bournemouth
Watford v Newcastle United
West Bromwich Albion v Aston Villa
West Ham United v Manchester City

Tuesday, February 2nd, 2016

Arsenal v Southampton
Crystal Palace v AFC Bournemouth (8:00)
Leicester City v Liverpool
Manchester United v Stoke City (8:00)
Norwich City v Tottenham Hotspur
Sunderland v Manchester City
Watford v Chelsea
West Bromwich Albion v Swansea City
West Ham United v Aston Villa

Wednesday, February 3rd, 2016

Everton v Newcastle United

Saturday, February 6th, 2016

AFC Bournemouth v Arsenal
Aston Villa v Norwich City
Chelsea v Manchester United
Liverpool v Sunderland
Manchester City v Leicester City
Newcastle United v West Bromwich Albion
Southampton v West Ham United
Stoke City v Everton
Swansea City v Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur v Watford

Saturday, February 13th, 2016

AFC Bournemouth v Stoke City
Arsenal v Leicester City
Aston Villa v Liverpool
Chelsea v Newcastle United
Crystal Palace v Watford
Everton v West Bromwich Albion
Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur
Norwich City v West Ham United
Sunderland v Manchester United
Swansea City v Southampton

Saturday, February 27th, 2016

Leicester City v Norwich City
Liverpool v Everton
Manchester United v Arsenal
Newcastle United v Manchester City
Southampton v Chelsea
Stoke City v Aston Villa
Tottenham Hotspur v Swansea City
Watford v AFC Bournemouth
West Bromwich Albion v Crystal Palace
West Ham United v Sunderland

Tuesday, March 1st, 2016

AFC Bournemouth v Southampton
Arsenal v Swansea City
Aston Villa v Everton
Leicester City v West Bromwich Albion
Liverpool v Manchester City
Manchester United v Watford
Norwich City v Chelsea
Sunderland v Crystal Palace
West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur

Wednesday, March 2nd, 2016

Stoke City v Newcastle United

Saturday, March 5th, 2016

Chelsea v Stoke City
Crystal Palace v Liverpool
Everton v West Ham United
Manchester City v Aston Villa
Newcastle United v AFC Bournemouth
Southampton v Sunderland
Swansea City v Norwich City
Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal
Watford v Leicester City
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester United

Saturday, March 12th, 2016

AFC Bournemouth v Swansea City
Arsenal v West Bromwich Albion
Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur
Leicester City v Newcastle United
Liverpool v Chelsea
Manchester United v Crystal Palace
Norwich City v Manchester City
Stoke City v Southampton
Sunderland v Everton
West Ham United v Watford

Saturday, March 19th, 2016

Chelsea v West Ham United
Crystal Palace v Leicester City
Everton v Arsenal
Manchester City v Manchester United
Newcastle United v Sunderland
Southampton v Liverpool
Swansea City v Aston Villa
Tottenham Hotspur v AFC Bournemouth
Watford v Stoke City
West Bromwich Albion v Norwich City

Saturday, April 2nd, 2016

AFC Bournemouth v Manchester City
Arsenal v Watford
Aston Villa v Chelsea
Leicester City v Southampton
Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester United v Everton
Norwich City v Newcastle United
Stoke City v Swansea City
Sunderland v West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United v Crystal Palace

Saturday, April 9th, 2016

Aston Villa v AFC Bournemouth
Crystal Palace v Norwich City
Liverpool v Stoke City
Manchester City v West Bromwich Albion
Southampton v Newcastle United
Sunderland v Leicester City
Swansea City v Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United
Watford v Everton
West Ham United v Arsenal

Saturday, April 16th, 2016

AFC Bournemouth v Liverpool
Arsenal v Crystal Palace
Chelsea v Manchester City
Everton v Southampton
Leicester City v West Ham United
Manchester United v Aston Villa
Newcastle United v Swansea City
Norwich City v Sunderland
Stoke City v Tottenham Hotspur
West Bromwich Albion v Watford

Saturday, April 23rd, 2016

AFC Bournemouth v Chelsea
Aston Villa v Southampton
Crystal Palace v Everton
Leicester City v Swansea City
Liverpool v Newcastle United
Manchester City v Stoke City
Norwich City v Watford
Sunderland v Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur v West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United v Manchester United

Saturday, April 30th, 2016

Arsenal v Norwich City
Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur
Everton v AFC Bournemouth
Manchester United v Leicester City
Newcastle United v Crystal Palace
Southampton v Manchester City
Stoke City v Sunderland
Swansea City v Liverpool
Watford v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v West Ham United

Saturday, May 7th, 2016

AFC Bournemouth v West Bromwich Albion
Aston Villa v Newcastle United
Crystal Palace v Stoke City
Leicester City v Everton
Liverpool v Watford
Manchester City v Arsenal
Norwich City v Manchester United
Sunderland v Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspur v Southampton
West Ham United v Swansea City

Sunday, May 15th, 2016

Arsenal v Aston Villa
Chelsea v Leicester City
Everton v Norwich City
Manchester United v AFC Bournemouth
Newcastle United v Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton v Crystal Palace
Stoke City v West Ham United
Swansea City v Manchester City
Watford v Sunderland
West Bromwich Albion v Liverpool

Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on June 17, 2015, 11:40:38 AM
Seven more weeks!
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on June 17, 2015, 04:26:07 PM
Wow, AFC Bournemouth. What a dream!!! Then reality in 7 weeks.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on June 29, 2015, 11:16:18 AM
Cech completes Gunners move
FIFA.com


Petr Cech has completed his protracted move to Arsenal on a long-term contract for an undisclosed fee following 11 seasons and nearly 500 appearances with London rivals Chelsea. The 33-year-old has been one of the mainstays of the Roman Abramovich era at Stamford Bridge, winning nearly every club honour with the Blues along the way.

Having been a regular for ten years, he found his playing time limited last season, losing his first-team spot to Thibaut Courtois and had been expected to move on this summer, with Arsenal leading the chase for a couple of months. The Czech said: "I'm really excited about joining Arsenal Football Club and can't wait to join up for pre-season."

Cech joined Chelsea from Rennes in July 2004 for £7m and went onto establish himself as one of their greatest goalkeepers. He won four Premier League titles, four FA Cups, three League Cups and played key roles in helping them go all the way in the 2011/12 Champions League as well as the Europa League the following season.

But Cech, who was twice named in the PFA team of the year during his time at Chelsea, played understudy to Courtois last season and made just 15 appearances in all competitions, prompting his move to north London. "I have the same commitment to football, the same motivation and the same hunger for success as I had at the beginning of my career, and I love the challenges brought by the top quality players you face while playing in the Premier League," he said.

"When Arsene Wenger spoke to me about his ambitions for this club, and how he saw me as part of this team, the decision was clear."

Chelsea described the departing custodian as an "icon" on their official website, with Cech himself posting a lengthy letter to their supporters on his Twitter page. "I thought this would never happen but it is time for me to say goodbye to Chelsea Football Club," he wrote. "The club I have lived every single minute for since joining July 2004, the club in which I thought I'd hang my gloves and boots one day and finish my career. But life doesn't always turn out the way you think it will.

"Last summer, things changed and I understood I was no longer the first choice keeper but I felt it was not the right time for me to go. During the season it became clear that my situation would not improve and as I know I am not at the stage of my career where I want to be on the bench, I made my decision to move on and look for new challenges."

Cech expressed his gratitude towards Chelsea owner Abramovich for allowing him to remain in England, even though it meant selling him to a potential title rival this season. He said: "I spoke to Mr Abramovich about me staying in the Premier League and I'd like to thank him from the bottom of my heart for his support in this matter. It means so much to me because without him Chelsea Football Club would not be where it is now. He deserves huge credit for what he has done for the club and for all of us."

Cech then hailed the Blues supporters, adding: "A huge thank you to the Chelsea fans. I did everything for you and you gave me your love back. I'll never forget it. It will stay with me forever. "We will meet again but this time I will be in the other goal - I hope you will remember our history and understand it is time for me to begin a new adventure."

Cech will face competition from Wojciech Szczesny and David Ospina for the number one jersey at the Emirates Stadium. Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger revealed his delight at his latest acquisition, saying: "Petr Cech is a player that I have admired for a long time and I am very pleased that he has decided to join us. He has proven over many seasons that he is one of the outstanding keepers in the world and he will add great strength to our squad."

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIrKrXJXAAAhWsq.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on June 29, 2015, 11:22:25 AM
Class!
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on June 29, 2015, 11:52:30 AM
Liverpool acquired Milner. Isn't he somewhat of a luxury signing for a club supposedly striving to pierce the ceiling?

Thus far, in addition to Milner, Rodgers has purchased Danny Ings, Joe Gomez, Adam Bogdan and Firmino. He's also not off-loaded Kolo Toure. Nothing thus far smacks of the sort of ambition expected.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on July 01, 2015, 10:54:35 PM
Leicester and Nigel Pearson have spurned each other. Thanks for keeping us up, but no thanks ... we doh need you and your 'vision going forward'. The club's statement referred to "fundamental differences in perspective".

That places Leicester looking for a manager with roughly 35 days before kick-off. Not ideal. Nor entirely promising.

Where will Pearson resurface?
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Post by: Tiresais on July 02, 2015, 12:53:10 AM
Leicester and Nigel Pearson have spurned each other. Thanks for keeping us up, but no thanks ... we doh need you and your 'vision going forward'. The club's statement referred to "fundamental differences in perspective".

That places Leicester looking for a manager with roughly 35 days before kick-off. Not ideal. Nor entirely promising.

Where will Pearson resurface?

My money's on a brothel in Thailand ;)
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on July 02, 2015, 05:48:33 AM
Leicester and Nigel Pearson have spurned each other. Thanks for keeping us up, but no thanks ... we doh need you and your 'vision going forward'. The club's statement referred to "fundamental differences in perspective".

That places Leicester looking for a manager with roughly 35 days before kick-off. Not ideal. Nor entirely promising.

Where will Pearson resurface?

My money's on a brothel in Thailand ;)

I think he'll be avoiding Thailand under the circumstances. Reports now confirm he was fired for reasons other than his managerial stewardship. Let's call it the sins of the son haunting the father.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/leicester-city-racist-orgy-video-5794654
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on July 02, 2015, 06:23:35 AM
I speculated as much on FB yesterday.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on July 12, 2015, 12:45:48 PM
Raheem Sterling to Manchester City!
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Post by: asylumseeker on July 12, 2015, 12:57:19 PM
An open letter to Raheem Sterling from a Liverpool fan
By Jim Boardman (Mirror).


Dear Raheem,

It looks like you're finally leaving us, that your games with the media have worked out for you and that you're heading off down the East Lancs Road to play for the second most famous team in the North West's second most famous city. Good luck on your new adventure, no hard feelings, hope it works out for you.

I can't say that I speak on behalf of all Liverpool fans in wishing you good luck and especially not in saying no hard feelings - I've heard lots of things wished on you and luck certainly hasn't been the main one. But still, all good things must come to an end and you've got a new set of fans to try and make happy now. As I say, good luck with that.

Those new fans will probably disagree with the bit about theirs being the second most famous city in the North West, as of course they're entitled to, but it would be hard for them to disagree with the bit about them being the second most famous club in their city. Take money out of the picture for a second - go on, try - and you've kind of moved to Manchester's Everton.

In my experience their fans are actually great people, the vast majority of those I've known down the years have a great sense of humour - they needed one - and a massive amount of humility. No doubt there'll be a new breed of fan infiltrating the old guard, as happens at any club with new found success, those who are only there for the trophies and won't be there to help fight for more if they show any signs of drying up. I can think of a few players like that. On the whole though, you're moving to a club with a great set of fans - but leaving behind a club with a much larger set of great fans.

You probably didn't read it, but your short-lived new team mate James Milner pointed this out earlier in the week. He loved his time at Manchester City and no doubt felt a certain amount of sadness at leaving behind those fans, his friends and so many memories, but already he is talking about "the magnitude" of Liverpool FC and "globally how well that it is known". As he said, Liverpool "is that next level again."

I fully understand where you're coming from in wanting to play at a club where you can win things and play at the highest level with or against the best players in the game. Believe it or not, Liverpool fans want their club to do that too. We're not happy at only winning one trophy in nine years or dropping straight out of the Champions League (when we actually do qualify for it), but we're not about to ditch our Red shirts and scarves and raid one of Mike Ashley's shops to kit ourselves out in sky blue. We'll stay and fight. That’s what we do.

We've not forgotten the heights of the best half-season you had with us, the second half of the 2013-14 season. We'll never forget it, even if there was nothing to show for it in the end. We'll never forget lining Anfield Road as the team bus drove slowly down it through banners dripping with references to this club’s great history and thick smoke from all the pyro as fans sang their hearts out and showed everyone on that team bus exactly what this club is all about.

This club is all about its fans, even if sometimes it seems to completely forget that.

These fans fought for their club when you were still at school, at the Merseyside school you moved to so you could finish your education after Rafa Benitez and Frank McParland had brought you to Liverpool's Academy and given you your break. While you were there, we were marching on Anfield and making ourselves heard around the world and especially on Wall Street. We made sure everybody knew we wouldn't be giving our club up as easily as our then owners and the people they'd put our club in hock to hoped we would.

We fought so that there was still a club there for you to get your big chance at.

If we’d had your kind of fight there wouldn’t be a Liverpool Football Club any more.

You'll see more of our kind of fight soon if Liverpool don't start to find the success that you also claim to be leaving for. You'll see it from a distance, but you'll definitely see it if it's needed.

Of course it might not be needed, and we really hope it isn’t, because it might just be that we go into this season with a squad of players with the hearts and attitude to fight tooth and nail on the pitch for the success these fans crave, instead of a squad scattered with half-hearted types who expect it all handed to them on a plate.

You've almost certainly done us a massive favour, so thanks for that. Your interview with the BBC didn’t just get the ball rolling on you getting your big money move to that club 30 miles away, it highlighted the fact - and it is a fact - that Liverpool are falling way below expectations. It's already quite clear that Liverpool fans won't allow their expectations to be lowered any more than they already have been and the time for excuses has long since passed.

There’s also the £49million fee we’re going to get for you. For all the potential you have – and you’ve plenty of it – you’ve yet to have one good full season in the first team. It could turn out to be a lucrative deal for your new club, if you turn out to be as good as your potential suggests you can be. But it’s more of a gamble for Manchester City than it is for Liverpool. The gamble from our side is whether or not we can spend that windfall wisely.

Owners, managers, coaches and players come and go, some leave on better terms than others, some leave more of a mark than others. In five years’ time will Liverpool fans have much they remember you for in a Red shirt? Nothing you’d like to be remembered for anyway.

You’ll be remembered for holding a balloon and acting like one.

Good luck and goodbye.

Best wishes,

Jim, Liverpool fan

Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on July 15, 2015, 07:55:59 AM
Leicester's hiring of Claudio Ranieri has been more or less greeted with muted response. No one seems to be particularly excited about.

Wha else? Interesting how van Gaal slid van Persie out the door with not much fanfare. Another manager, and van Persie probably wouldn't be going anywhere.
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Post by: asylumseeker on July 20, 2015, 01:16:06 PM
Louis van Gaal planning sole striker role for Wayne Rooney at United
By Jamie Jackson (The Guardian, UK).


Wayne Rooney will be Manchester United’s main centre-forward this season, with Louis van Gaal clear there is no longer a need for the four-striker model that has brought the club so much success.

Rooney is the only proven finisher in the manager’s squad but Van Gaal is unconcerned because he wants goals to come from all areas. Radamel Falcao and Robin van Persie have left Old Trafford and though James Wilson and Javier Hernández are still in the squad they have struggled to establish themselves. Yet Van Gaal is relaxed regarding recruiting another frontline finisher because of how he hopes the side will play and his faith in Rooney, despite him scoring only 12 Premier League goals last season.

Van Gaal is targeting Barcelona’s Pedro, a forward who would be able to play across the attack of the manager’s planned 4-3-3 formation. If the Spaniard did arrive he would be expected to complement Rooney, Memphis Depay, Wilson and Hernández. The latter is to be given a chance to prove himself when he joins the club’s tour of America on 25 July after resting following the Copa América.

While Van Gaal would be open to buying a striker should he vastly increase scoring options, Rooney is to be the focal point of attack. There would be no issue with him being the only high-profile centre-forward in the squad as Van Gaal believes the rest of his side will contribute. Depay, who was the top scorer in PSV’s Eredivisie title win last season, will be tried as a central striker.

United’s previous success has been based on having four top-line finishers. Sir Alex Ferguson’s 1999 and 2008 Champions League winning teams each had a quartet of marksmen. The European Cup triumph of 16 years ago featured Dwight Yorke, Andy Cole, Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. In 2008 the trophy was claimed with Rooney, Carlos Tevez, Cristiano Ronaldo and Louis Saha available to Ferguson.

Last season Van Gaal had Rooney, Van Persie, Falcao and Wilson as his four. “We still have Rooney, he can play in the striker’s position, and all the media had written [he can] play there so I listened. Also Chicharito [Hernández] and maybe Wilson,” said Van Gaal, who hinted at a further addition. “Maybe there comes a surprise.”

Of Hernández, who was on loan at Real Madrid last season, he said: “Chicharito is coming on 25 July – he can prove himself again. Now Falcao and Van Persie are gone so his chances are better.”

In the 1-0 victory over Club América in Seattle, Depay was deployed as a No10 behind Rooney. “Wayne coached me a lot through the game and talked to me about which position I should take and when to defend,” the Dutchman told manutd.com. “We have to form a duo and I have the right feeling with him.

“The manager said congratulations on my debut; he was happy for me. He expects much more from me as well and that’s important for me to work on. I had some moments and some passes but I expect more from myself. I’ll keep focused and keep training hard.”
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Post by: asylumseeker on July 20, 2015, 01:23:34 PM
Liverpool agree £32.5m deal with Aston Villa for Christian Benteke
By Nick Ames (The Guardian, UK).


Liverpool to pay half of fee up front for 24-year-old striker
Player will not join Liverpool for remainder of pre-season tour


Christian Benteke is expected to have a medical at Liverpool on Monday after the club agreed terms for the £32.5m transfer of the Aston Villa striker.

Liverpool activated the Belgian’s release clause on Friday but the deal could proceed no further until a payment plan was agreed between their chief executive, Ian Ayre, and his opposite number at Villa, Tom Fox.

The structure of the deal, believed to involve Liverpool paying £16m up front, has been settled and Benteke is free to complete a move that would make him Brendan Rodgers’ seventh signing of the close season.

The Liverpool club doctor, Andy Massey, has flown back from the current leg of the club’s tour, in Adelaide, to conduct Benteke’s medical in London. Assuming there are no hitches, Benteke will be a Liverpool player this week but will not join his new team-mates for the final stage of their tour, in which they play a Malaysia XI in Kuala Lumpur on Friday.

It is hoped that he will join Roberto Firmino, whose £29m arrival from Hoffenheim will become Liverpool’s second-most expensive deal of the summer, in beginning pre-season training at their Melwood training ground on Wednesday.

Benteke scored 15 goals in 34 appearances for Villa last season, including the equaliser in their FA Cup semi-final win over Liverpool. He made his comeback in October after a six-month absence with a ruptured achilles, and was particularly instrumental in Villa’s late-season revival under their manager, Tim Sherwood. The striker’s three seasons at Villa Park, since joining as a relatively unheralded 22-year-old from Genk, brought 49 goals from 101 games.

Now 24, Benteke is approaching his peak years but is also a player Rodgers will feel he can improve. Liverpool have lacked a consistent presence in attack since the departure of Luis Suárez last summer, with Daniel Sturridge sidelined by injury for long periods and Mario Balotelli failing to convince since his arrival from Milan.

Benteke’s departure will be a big blow to Villa, who also lost Fabian Delph to Manchester City last week. Sherwood would like to sign the Tottenham striker Emmanuel Adebayor as a direct replacement.
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 01, 2015, 09:04:38 PM
Premier League 2015-16 preview: Chelsea
By Paul Doyle (The Guardian, UK).


The big question about Chelsea and the season ahead is whether other teams will force José Mourinho’s side to be better. The dominance of Mourinho’s men in last term’s Premier League was damning on all the pretenders whose faffing or bungling contributed to making Chelsea’s relatively seamless progress sometimes seem boring. It may transpire that the most damaging thing any so-called title rivals did to Chelsea last season was to infect the Stamford Bridge side with a complacency that could jeopardise the defence of their crown. But there is still plenty of time left this summer for Mourinho to prove the rabble did not even achieve that.

“You are speaking with the manager of the best team in England – we don’t have frailties,” said Mourinho last week, but that was probably just him making light of the pre-season friendly defeat to New York Red Bulls rather than the airing of a genuine belief his squad is perfect. After all, Chelsea have been pursuing John Stones because they know time is one opponent John Terry cannot subdue forever and interest in Pedro and other forwards suggest Mourinho wants to broaden his team’s attacking repertoire and squad. Hopefully they will need to.

How worried Mourinho is about other clubs’ reinforcing may determine how vigorously he pursues his transfer targets: he surely knows who he wants and has his eyes on players who could solve problems in the way that Nemanja Matic, Cesc Fàbregas and Diego Costa have done since the Portuguese’s second coming at Stamford Bridge, but it may be he will accept waiting until January or next summer to sign his ideal recruit if he is unconvinced the Manchester clubs, Arsenal and Liverpool have made up sufficient ground this summer. And one advantage of being scheduled to meet Manchester City in the second match of the season is that if Mourinho misjudges the levels of that team’s improvement he may still be able to respond accordingly in the summer transfer window.

Standing still would be an obvious risk and one that you suspect Mourinho would be loth to run given that he would probably be boasting two titles from two Premier League campaigns since his return to England if Chelsea had not decided to muddle through with Fernando Torres while waiting for Costa in the 2013-14 season. What is more, even if merely replacing deputies – Asmir Begovic for Petr Cech, Radamel Falcao for Didier Drogba and, it seems, Baba Rahman for Filipe Luís – turned out to be enough to stay on top in England it would hardly restore Chelsea to elite status in the Champions League, where they were found badly wanting last season. Although their elimination by PSG was more to do with Mourinho’s residual negativity rather than personnel problems and that, too, is a fact Mourinho must face.

Chelsea do not, of course, need major surgery. Their goalkeeping options are excellent and their defence looks to be still the strongest in the Premier League, with the highly promising Kurt Zouma providing solid cover if the Terry-Gary Cahill axis starts creaking. Stones would offer more security on that front if signed. Branislav Ivanovic is the best right-back in the Premier League and César Azpilicueta can deputise for him well and Rahman, if he joins, should prove sturdier backup on the left.

It is further forward where Chelsea could do with strengthening. Mourinho used fewer players than any other manager in the Premier League last season, showing both his trust in his first-choice team and, perhaps, doubts about the lack of depth. Fàbregas and Matic dovetailed beautifully at the base of Chelsea’s midfield for most of last season but there were times in the second half when they seemed jaded or vexed by the strain of having to play nearly every match. Is Ruben Loftus-Cheek ready to step in?

Eden Hazard was the one creative player who consistently delivered for Chelsea, at times being the most thrilling player in the league. But the extent to which Chelsea came to depend on him was not healthy and triggered the question as to how they would cope if the Belgian were to be sidelined by a heinous foul or the cumulative effect of constant petty ones. Willian was regularly dynamic and inventive too but still needs to embellish his game with goals while Oscar and Ramires were erratic last term. Juan Cuadrado raised concerns that the player who had looked so good for Colombia during the World Cup was secretly replaced by a Doppelgänger. Maybe one or all members of that trio will regain their best form, or maybe Mourinho should buy an upgrade or two.

Uncertainty also hovers over Chelsea’s strikers. Costa proved a wonderfully potent and belligerent Premier debutant last term (but failed to score in the Champions League), unpleasant and deadly in a way defences despise and supporters must admire. But his hamstring proved equally pesky towards the end of the season and Chelsea will hope that problem has been remedied and no other one emerges; if it does then Loic Rémy, a less abrasive but faster and cutting replacement, will have to fill the breach again or Falcao will be given a chance to show that his bluntness at United last season was not a symptom of terminal decline.

Chelsea remain the team to catch, but there are enough doubts about the champions to give other clubs hope if they can sort themselves out.

Guardian writers’ predicted position: 1st
Last season’s position: 1st
Odds to win the league (via Oddschecker): 13-8

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Post by: asylumseeker on August 01, 2015, 09:13:04 PM
Premier League 2015-16 preview: Arsenal
By Amy Lawrence (The Guardian, UK).


Stability has been the watchword at Arsenal and Arsène Wenger believes his squad has the hunger, quality and togetherness to succeed. There is, though, still room for improvement

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Premier League football is hardly a fertile habitat any more for developmental managers. The fact that Eddie Howe, newly arrived in the top flight and with two and three-quarter years at Bournemouth, shoots into third place for length of service of current Premier League bosses underlines how difficult it is for any manager to dare to think long-term.

Why would you diligently build yourself a cohesive team when the chances are someone bigger or richer will pick it apart? Why invest time nurturing a young talent when there is an inevitability that their representatives will listen to the highest bidders?

Despite all the evidence that suggests modern management depends on ruthlessness and quick fixes, Arsène Wenger still clings to this mad ideal of developing something with considerable patience and care. It wasn’t so long ago that this seemed utterly impossible. The Arsenal manager has seldom been as dejected as when he was forced to acknowledge that project youth – his mission to grow a winning team infused with loyalty on the training pitches at London Colney – floundered with the high-profile departures of players such as Cesc Fàbregas, Samir Nasri and Robin van Persie in their pomp.

This summer at Arsenal has seen Wenger revert to his belief – the hope that he could never quite bring himself to let go of – that sporting values rather than financial ones can make the difference. He saw something special in his group last season and feels no great urge to mess with it too much.

“We live in a society where people just want new,” he explained recently. Connections, understanding, and a sense of common cause don’t necessarily come packaged in a shiny parcel, however. Such attributes require far more than a click of the fingers.

Wenger thinks this squad have an unusually strong sense of togetherness that has gained depth over time. He is impressed by how the players have improved, both individually and collectively. He likes the way their hunger has been tweaked winning the FA Cup two years in a row – giving them confidence in themselves and the taste for more. He enjoys the blend that brings together the mix of luxury buys such as Alexis Sánchez and Mesut Özil, total surprises such as Héctor Bellerín and Francis Coquelin, added to the British core such as Jack Wilshere and Aaron Ramsey.

Stability has been the name of the game over this close season. Even the big addition of Petr Cech is one that underscores that. The Czech keeper has been recruited from Chelsea to bring an extra layer of stability – that mature sureness and solidity at the team’s base. Interestingly, backing up Wenger’s instincts, Cech has been particularly struck by the bond in the team he has just joined. “I’ve found the team spirit quite extraordinary,” he said, which is quite the compliment given the renowned never-say-die character at his former club.

But whether Wenger’s unshakeable faith in stability, and how that might bring the best out of his group, is enough to mount a title challenge with substance remains to be seen. Arsenal have quality and competition for places in most departments but there is still room for improvement.

If Wenger can find the pieces of the jigsaw to make another upgrade or two (and he will buy only if he can strike a deal for someone better than what he already has) he will. If not, he will hope that fortune favours his squad in terms of fitness and form, and rely on “internal solutions” if difficulties arise. That didn’t serve him too badly last time with the emergence of Bellerín and Coquelin.

There are two positions that still have a question mark over them as the season fast approaches – at the point of attack and anchoring midfield. The feelgood factor may lurch if the centre-forward stable of Olivier Giroud, Theo Walcott and Danny Welbeck fall short in the sternest tests, or if Coquelin gets an injury or suspension at an inconvenient moment, with Mikel Arteta, who has been a long-term injury victim, the main alternative. Having said that, finding world-class centre-forwards these days is easier said than done.

Arsenal will have to deal with a different kind of expectation this season. Arguably for the first time since they left Highbury they have the billing of genuine Premier League contenders. Fighting with an equally settled and stable Chelsea side who won the league by eight points last term, an emboldened, strengthened Manchester United, and a Manchester City team hoping for extra zest is still a huge challenge. But for the first time in many years, Arsenal’s players appear honestly to believe they can do it. There were a few cynical heads in the past. Not any more. The air of general confidence is quite striking.

This group has effectively been developing since 2012, when Van Persie left for Manchester United and a title medal. From that summer to this, the calibre of major player coming in, as epitomised by Cazorla, Özil, Sánchez and now Cech, has given incremental boosters. Wenger will pay big when the opportunity arises. Those developed closer to home, such as Wilshere, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Walcott, fitness permitting, look desperate to express themselves.

With the exception of Sánchez, who will be reintroduced to the team late after a post-Copa América holiday, there has been a sharpness to pre-season training that Wenger rates as critical. A good start has been drummed into the players, particularly as they began sluggishly last time, with a load of draws that had them playing catch-up.

Wenger, approaching his 19th year as Arsenal manager, remains as committed as ever to the joy of honing a team, sending them over the white line, with all that elusive possibility ahead.

Guardian writers’ predicted position: 3rd
Last season’s position: 3rd
Odds to win the league (via Oddschecker): 9-2

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Post by: asylumseeker on August 01, 2015, 09:25:50 PM
Premier League 2015-16 preview: Manchester United
By Jamie Jackson (the Guardian, UK)


On Louis van Gaal’s second summer tour as Manchester United manager “process” jostled with “philosophy” as the go-to term. The David de Gea saga, Memphis Depay requiring time to settle, the proposed new 4-3-3 shape: these and other issues were all explained away by the Dutchman’s prime P words.

He might have used two other words which have become as significant: “No excuses.” This is the culture Van Gaal has created for his players and this is now his own stark reality. As practically possible as it can be after a year in charge, the club is how the manager would want it.

Van Gaal’s total spend on strengthening the squad stands at £230m in 12 months. This has brought in 11 players while 17 senior ones have been pruned. Last year’s close-season trip to America irritated Van Gaal due to the incessant flying required to visit five states. This time travel was curtailed, his wish acceded to. The club had two week-long training bases, in Seattle and San Jose, the areas where three of the four matches were staged. So intent was the manager on the players following their bespoke regime that the club flew into Chicago late on the Tuesday evening before Wednesday’s final game, against Paris Saint-Germain at Soldier Field.

All of this adds up to the Dutchman having it his way. Now the task is to deliver. The message from the board is that no precise targets are set for Van Gaal in the coming campaign. Despite him stating a top-four finish was the requirement all that was needed in his first year was to turn the listing United tanker. The Glazers, who own United, wanted the disaster of the David Moyes term fixed and the club back pointing the right way. The message from up high remains the same; Van Gaal is to continue the momentum he has sparked.

But make no mistake – the trajectory has to be skywards, back to the rarefied air where Chelsea reside as the best club in England. Come title-showdown time in April and May United have to be a serious rival to José Mourinho’s team and have to show they can mix it again with the continental heavyweights.

If the club do not claim a 21st league crown or fail to make the business end of the Champions League, Van Gaal will not be sacked. He could, though, if United fail to contend for the Premier League, fail to enter the Champions League group stage via mid-August’s final knockout round and fail to claim a domestic cup.

Perhaps the most telling offering from Van Gaal when speaking at the team hotel in San Jose after the 3-1 defeat of Barcelona was the insistence that the creative force of his squad remains weak.

The manager was not being cruel when he stated Ashley Young is “no Neymar”. This was simply the illumination of a troubling fact: the dearth in class between individual players and between the overall XIs of United and Barça (and the other European giants).

A glance at Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, the winners of the last three European Cups, plus Chelsea shows each possess at least one world-beating attacking footballer. United have none. David de Gea is elite class but he is a goalkeeper and could still leave for Real.

There may be an argument for Wayne Rooney. He, though, is a high-end Premier League operator who falls into the “on-his-day” band of performer in the Champions League. There is a struggle to recall a major European night when the captain has shone when required against one of the big teams. Lionel Messi, Luis Suárez, Neymar, Andrés Iniesta, Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale, Thomas Müller, Arjen Robben and Eden Hazard: all have entries on the CV that prove they can destroy an opposition when it matters.

This is the challenge Van Gaal faces. The 63-year-old continues to reference last season’s 1-0 defeat at Chelsea. This remains the “near-perfect” game. Everything was how it should have been except the score, he says. The problem here is that the score is football’s bottom line.

Hazard was the man who lit up Stamford Bridge with a 38th-minute moment of magic. In arguing United were close to perfection on that April afternoon Van Gaal actually underlines the point he makes about searing attackers. The breakaway goal Hazard scored bewitched United’s defence and moved Van Gaal to bewail (yet again) in San Jose how Chelsea had only one chance. But that opportunity was taken by the world-class talent who is Hazard and Mourinho’s men stymied any United threat to Chelsea’s claiming of the championship.

In all of this Van Gaal seems to infer that with no more additions between now and 1 September, when the transfer window closes, United will struggle to compete for the Premier League and Champions League. Yet there is a suspicion he may be dampening expectation, certainly with regard to the title. Last year’s 17-point gap to Chelsea is a country-wide distance to close. There is a “could have, should have” element to Van Gaal’s view of the game at the Bridge. But he has a point when claiming if United had defeated Chelsea there would have been “another spirit”. If so, the subsequent Everton and West Bromwich Albion outings would not have been defeats too. These three defeats on the bounce were United’s poorest run and contributed to that yawning 17-point deficit.

To fill the attack gap Van Gaal continues to pursue Barça’s Pedro. But the expected departure of Ángel di María to Paris Saint-Germain is a head-scratcher. Here is a player who can illuminate the grand stage, as the Argentinian did when turning the 2014 Champions League final Real Madrid’s way. He appears exactly the type of performer Van Gaal likes. The manager wanted Di María to stay but has been powerless to stop him going, apparently. Yet Real Madrid have told Sergio Ramos he cannot leave for United and two years ago United told Wayne Rooney he could not leave for Chelsea. The message to Di María does not seem to have been as strident.

So again Van Gaal has no excuse in the coming season for United not prospering. He has signed Depay whose pace and directness may offer the scintillating play the manager craves. He has signed Bastian Schweinsteiger, the World Cup and European Cup winner, to command the centre. He has signed Morgan Schneiderlin, who showed on tour an engine that propels from midfield, an asset United have lacked. He has signed Matteo Darmian, Italy’s right-back at Brazil 2014. And the manager has signed Sergio Romero, who has 62 caps for Argentina and can provide a challenge to De Gea. The latter could offer a further boon to Van Gaal. United continue to insist he will not depart for Real unless Ramos can move to Old Trafford so the Spaniard could now stay.

Van Gaal may yet sign the stellar footballer(s) of “vision” he wants before 1 September. But if he does not there must still be a rise in United’s status, both at home and on the continent. The doomsday scenario is that the team suffer a similar stuttering start to last season when 13 points were claimed from the first 10 matches. And that United fail to make the draw for the Champions League proper. But with the club now plugged into the Van Gaal way this should not occur.

Guardian writers’ predicted position: 2nd
Last season’s position: 4th
Odds to win the league (via Oddschecker): 5-1

Related Video (http://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2015/jul/31/manchester-united-2015-16-season-preview-premier-league-video)
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 01, 2015, 10:07:22 PM
I just hope Benteke hits the ground running yes.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 02, 2015, 01:37:04 PM
José Mourinho: I would not endure winless run against me like Wenger
By David Hynter (The Guardian, UK).


• ‘I would want to try to find solutions to help my team to do it’
• Arsenal manager seeks first win against Chelsea rival


José Mourinho has suggested he would drive himself to distraction in the search for a solution if he experienced a winless run such as that which Arsène Wenger has endured against him. The Chelsea manager had another, related suggestion: it would never happen to him.

Sunday’s Community Shield pits Mourinho against Wenger for the 14th time and it is a remarkable statistic that Wenger continues to seek a victory over the man with whom he has such a difficult relationship. Mourinho’s hold over the Frenchman and Arsenal has sometimes seemed total.

“I think I would ask myself: Why?” Mourinho said when asked how he would react if the boot were on the other foot. “I would try to answer, not because of a mental block but because I would want to try to find solutions to help my team to do it – try to find a different way, try to find the reasons why it goes all the time against my team.”

Mourinho’s intolerance of defeat is a well-known part of his makeup and there were two moments during his pre-match press briefing on Friday that stood out – one humorous; the other accompanied by one of the Portuguese’s trademark icy stares.

It was put to Mourinho that he had, presumably, never been on the wrong end of a prolonged winless sequence against a rival. “No,” he replied. “I think I lost twice against Toni.” His audience began to rack their brains for the Latin maestro who had got the better of him. “I lost against Crystal Palace and against West Brom,” he continued. Ah, Tony Pulis.

Mourinho has fallen to Pulis teams at his previous two attempts – Chelsea lost 1-0 at Palace in March 2014 and 3-0 at West Bromwich Albion at the end of last season. That hardly constitutes a sequence, however, and the obvious suspicion is that this was Mourinho’s point.

The Chelsea manager went on to discuss how he sought to instil the winning mentality in his players and he gave an example. “In competitive situations in training, if one team is winning by three goals, finish,” he said.

“It means that the ones that are losing are not training well, so if you don’t train well, you don’t train. I did that once in Canada [during the pre-season tour]. I ended the training.”

Mourinho sounded keen not to attach too much importance to the result against Arsenal this weekend. He described the Community Shield as being somewhere between a pre-season friendly and a Premier League fixture and he cautioned against it being treated as a portent for the season.

“Arsenal won the Community Shield last season against the champions Manchester City and they finished third,” he said. “I don’t think it has a relation to the rest of the season.”

Mourinho’s principal selection decision involves Diego Costa. The striker felt a pain in a hamstring during the midweek friendly against Barcelona in Washington and the Spain international was taken off immediately. The squad flew back to London on Wednesday and transatlantic flights are rarely synonymous with optimising recovery from injury. Costa, however, knows his body and the 26-year-old has said it was nothing serious while Mourinho insisted that last season’s top scorer was fit and available.

Chelsea have been relatively quiet in the summer transfer market, certainly compared with their rivals, but Mourinho said the club were trying to sign a left-back following the sale of Filipe Luís back to Atlético Madrid. Baba Rahman, the 21-year-old from Augsburg in Germany, is the prime target, with his agent confirming that the Premier League champions have submitted a bid of €25m (£17.5m).

“We are trying to sign a left-back,” confirmed Mourinho. “We have only one [César Azpilicueta]. We are trying.”

Arsène Wenger’s Arsenal break duck against José Mourinho at Chelsea
By Daniel Taylor (The Guardian, UK).


It has taken 14 attempts, spread over 11 years, and in the most difficult moments Arsène Wenger has looked as if he would cheerfully throttle José Mourinho with his own tie, but finally Arsenal’s manager knows what it feels like to get one over his bete noire. It has been a long time coming and, psychologically, it should do them the power of good to break a run that has hurt Wenger far more than he would probably confess.

His team played without any sense of inferiority, which has not always been the case when these sides meet, and it was no surprise to see Mourinho tossing his medal into the crowd afterwards, even if he did direct it towards a young Arsenal fan rather than a supporter of his own team. Mourinho doesn’t even keep all his winner’s medals so there was no way he wanted a souvenir of a game when Chelsea played with so much carelessness there were only passing reminders they were here as Premier League champions.

It was a strangely subdued performance from Mourinho’s team and the Chelsea manager was stretching the truth when he said that the better side had been beaten. It was true, as he pointed out, that Wenger’s side sacrificed some of their attacking instincts during the second period. That, however, was just common sense after Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain had speared a wonderful shot into the top corner of Thibaut Courtois’ net and Arsenal, operating on the counterattack, should be commended for playing with a streetwise edge. Far too often that has been exactly what they have lacked.

They defended with great togetherness and, in the process, Petr Cech wasted little time demonstrating the improvement he can bring. Cech controlled Arsenal’s penalty area in a way that was often beyond his predecessors. It was no coincidence Arsenal suddenly looked so assured at the back and afterwards Wenger cited the moment, just after the hour, when Cesc Fàbregas released Eden Hazard and the man who swept up last season’s player-of-the-year awards put his shot over the crossbar, aiming for the top corner. Chelsea, according to Wenger, had felt the only way they could beat Cech was with the “perfect goal” and, on this evidence, Arsenal’s new goalkeeper could win them many league points this season. Roman Abramovich has been praised for letting Cech move across London but, however grand the gesture, Chelsea’s supporters could probably be forgiven for wondering whether it was wise selling a goalkeeper of this distinction to one of their main rivals.

The decisive moment arrived midway through the opening half and, to put it into context, it was the first time Arsenal had scored against these opponents in 506 minutes of play. Arsenal had not even led against Chelsea since December 2010 but they passed the ball with the greater incision and fluency in the opening 45 minutes and it was a wonderful finish from Oxlade-Chamberlain.

The move started on the left but Mesut Özil’s crossfield pass changed the direction of the attack. Theo Walcott moved it out to Oxlade-Chamberlain on the right and, turning inside César Azpilicueta, his left-foot shot was still rising as it flashed past Courtois.

Mourinho could reflect on the moment later in the first half when Loïc Rémy clipped in a beautifully weighted cross to pick out Ramires six yards from goal. Ramires overlooked the first rule in those positions to head the ball downwards, turning it over the crossbar, and on the far touchline an aggrieved Mourinho could be seen gesturing how it should have been done.

His changes at half-time, not only withdrawing Rémy but switching Ramires, Fàbregas and Willian into different positions, were another sign of his discontent but Chelsea continued to make the kind of basic errors that, if we are going to be generous, smacked of pre-season rustiness. Fàbregas had a chance late on to send a free-kick into the penalty area but did not even get it past the first man. Soon afterwards, Branislav Ivanovic played the ball back to Courtois and the goalkeeper miscontrolled it, conceding a corner.

Hazard has rarely been so ineffectual and Chelsea plainly have problems in attack if the injury issues that prematurely ended Diego Costa’s involvement last season are going to trouble him again. Costa’s fragile hamstring ruled him out here and Rémy was taken off after a first half in which he strayed into offside territory on four occasions. Radamel Falcao was given the second half to impress but if the Colombian is to reinvent himself as a grade-A centre-forward there was little evidence of it on this showing.

For Arsenal, the issue is whether Wenger persists with Walcott in attack at the expense of Olivier Giroud. Walcott was the one Arsenal player who disappointed even if it was his pass that contributed to the goal. Giroud replaced him midway through the second half and in the closing exchanges he and Santi Cazorla both had chances to extend the lead. Courtois denied them both but there was still plenty to encourage Arsenal’s followers, one of whom now carries a little red box containing a medal Mourinho does not want to see again.

Man of the match: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 06, 2015, 02:02:38 AM
Saturday, August 8th, 2015

AFC Bournemouth v Aston Villa
Arsenal v West Ham United
Chelsea v Swansea City
Everton v Watford
Leicester City v Sunderland
Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur
Newcastle United v Southampton
Norwich City v Crystal Palace
Stoke City v Liverpool
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester City

...

Some pretty good opening day match-ups, however the pick of them for me is Man Utd v Spurs.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on August 08, 2015, 08:51:47 AM
united lookin d same as last year "almost but not quite"and well martinez might be on borrowed time from early o clock everton lookin impotent against watford
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 08, 2015, 11:02:40 AM
Correct approach by Swansea in this opening game. Very unfortunate to be down 2-1 @ 33'.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on August 08, 2015, 11:41:00 AM
Tings spicy now!

Leading up to the penalty Swansea had Chelsea on the ropes since the half start.
Mourinho in disarray.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 08, 2015, 11:54:22 AM
Diego Costa's expressions after that Fernández tackle had me  :rotfl:

I see a lil bit of KJ in Gomis.
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Post by: soccerman on August 08, 2015, 06:20:21 PM
Diego Costa's expressions after that Fernández tackle had me  :rotfl:

I see a lil bit of KJ in Gomis.

Not only do they look alike but they're both powerful strikers that can be a nightmare for defenders.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 08, 2015, 08:35:12 PM
Listen to discussion of the the league's opening day of play.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b064xf1n
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on August 08, 2015, 08:52:23 PM
I know it's not the BPL but the game between Bury and Doncaster in League One and a strange turn of events with 2 very unusual goals in injury time.

http://www.espnfc.com/blog-the-toe-poke/story/2553871/doncaster-rovers-allow-bury-to-walk-the-ball-in?ex_cid=espnTW
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 08, 2015, 09:05:44 PM
I know it's not the BPL but the game between Bury and Doncaster in League One and a strange turn of events with 2 very unusual goals in injury time.

http://www.espnfc.com/blog-the-toe-poke/story/2553871/doncaster-rovers-allow-bury-to-walk-the-ball-in?ex_cid=espnTW

Listening to Dickov's comments right now. Glad you posted it. Was about to source the video and post here. Instead ah going to find ah way of introducing Miguel Herrera to Paul Dickov. :devil:
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 08, 2015, 09:17:39 PM
Arouna Koné hits late leveller to give Everton a point against Watford
By Richard Jolly (The Guardian, UK).


Everton 2 Watford 2

Watford are starting to rue late equalisers. One cost them the Championship crown on the final day of last season. Another, bookending the summer with further disappointment, deprived them of two Premier League points. Silverware was not at stake this time, but the verdict may be that Arouna Koné’s strike was a more damaging leveller, even if the early evidence is that, unlike their predecessors, this Watford team may not beat an immediate and ignominious return to the second tier.

They were five minutes from a victory that would have been extraordinary. Not so much because of their history at Goodison Park, which consisted purely of defeats, but because of the scale of the overhaul at Vicarage Road. The division’s busiest buyers have made 10 signings. Their fifth manager in a year, Quique Flores, chose six to start, including three of the back four and both defensive midfielders. The team contained 11 different nationalities, the matchday squad 16.

“So many nationalities, so many players who had not played before,” mused Roberto Martínez. “But Quique Flores is a very good manager and he structures a team very well.”

So it proved. Watford played with a level of cohesion that scarcely indicated they were strangers weeks ago. The only surprise, given their ruthlessness in looking to upgrade wherever possible, was that both of their goals came from survivors of their promotion-winning campaign.

Each was a strike to savour. Miguel Layún was making only his 15th Watford start but, considering the context, qualifies as one of the old-stagers. He opened his account for the club with their first top-flight goal since 2007. After Troy Deeney had a shot blocked, the debutant José Manuel Jurado crossed from the left, Phil Jagielka botched his attempt to clear and Layún drilled his shot past Tim Howard.

For an hour, the Mexican appeared the probable match-winner. Then that mantle passed to a colleague. After Ross Barkley levelled, Odion Ighalo had the cheek to dummy his way past John Stones, twisting and turning before defeating Howard. It was the Nigerian’s 18th goal in 20 league games but, after the summer influx and a switch in system, he had been demoted from the starting 11. “He didn’t train during the week,” Flores said. “He was injured.”

Everton have altogether more serious injury concerns. Leighton Baines had ankle surgery in May and could require another operation after he was hurt blocking a shot in training. “That has been a real disaster,” Martínez said. “He was devastated. It was a big knock. It is not going to be two or three weeks. It is going to be longer than that.” Baines is set to miss England’s Euro 2016 qualifiers against San Marino and Switzerland but, although the Everton manager wants three more signings, he has ruled out looking for another left-back.

Newcomers have been in short supply at Goodison Park. While Flores confirmed that the Italy international Alessandro Diamanti will become Watford’s 11th recruit, Everton were only able to unveil one arrival, the free transfer Tom Cleverley. Yet paragons of change were pegged back by a club with unwanted continuity. Certainly there were similarities to last season in the febrile mood. Everton were booed off at half-time and applauded an hour later. It was a soundtrack that summed up seesawing emotions.

But there is scope for improvement within Goodison. It was highlighted by their scorers, who each have a point to prove. Barkley mustered only two league goals last season but unleashed an unstoppable long-range shot. “Ross Barkley scores a goal that only he can score with that technique and that class, but with the maturity of a new Ross Barkley,” Martínez said.

Koné had struck only once before in his two-year Everton career until the substitute latched on to Romelu Lukaku’s pass and defeated Heurelho Gomes. One of Martínez’s former Wigan charges, he has not been a popular figure with the Goodison crowd. This, his mentor, hopes, will be a turning point. “When he arrived it was like a black cat crossed the road,” Martínez rued. “He got an injury and he never had any momentum or luck. Today he had to win the crowd over and I was delighted.”

He added: “We showed a performance in the second half that could be an incredible platform to become very good.” As eight of their next nine games are against last season’s top 10, they will have to be.
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 08, 2015, 09:39:49 PM
Premier League 2015-16 preview: Watford
By Simon Burnton (The Guardian, UK).


After winning promotion, Watford enter the big stage with an almost entirely fresh cast and the task facing their new manager Quique Sánchez Flores is to meld them into a team capable of staying up

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Heurelho Gomes is one of the few players in the Watford squad that won promotion considered by the club to be unequivocally ready for the top flight.

Ordinarily, this would be the place for a thorough appraisal of last season’s promotion-winning side – their strengths, weaknesses, frequently used formations, best players, weak links, etc and so forth – but, really, what’s the point? It’s not as if that team exists any more.

It is traditional for a promoted club, however impressive they looked in securing their Premier League spot, to do a fair amount of business before their season in the spotlight. They will ordinarily add a bit of top-flight experience – most commonly by picking the pockets of one of the freshly relegated trio – then look abroad for perhaps one retirement-approaching heavily garlanded international mercenary, and seal a season-long loan deal for a promising member of Chelsea’s reserve side. The core of the team who kick off the season in the top flight, however, will also have been there when the final whistle blew on the previous campaign. In last season’s Premier League, players who had also been involved in the club’s promotion made 66.75% of all league starts at QPR, 71.77% at Leicester, and 80.86% at Burnley.

For a manager, meanwhile, promotion may not secure long-term job security but it can normally be assumed the achievement will give him at the very least a chance to establish the team and his reputation in their new surroundings.

Under the ownership of Gino Pozzo, whose family have previously led Udinese in Italy and Granada in Spain to promotion and successful consolidation, Watford have not only ripped up this rule book, they have made origami monkeys with it, then set fire to them and eaten the ashes with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

First they looked at the squad who secured second place in the Championship last season – missing out on the title only because of a last-minute Sheffield Wednesday equaliser on the final day. It included three strikers who between them had scored 57 goals in the league alone, as well as a defence with the fifth-best record in the division. In all 27 players contributed to the promotion campaign and remained on the club’s books at its conclusion, and the owners made a list of those they considered good enough to be first-choice picks in the new-look, top-flight side. When they had finished, the list had two names on it.

Then they had to deal with the manager. Slavisa Jokanovic had arrived in November, famously the fourth permanent manager of the season, and had galvanised a team who had frequently underwhelmed (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/apr/25/watford-championship) into co-victors in the most closely fought promotion campaign of recent years. Although his contract expired at the end of last season, the intention was for Jokanovic to be in charge at least for the start of the new campaign – but first they had to thrash out a deal. They offered him a considerable increase on his basic salary, with a seven-figure bonus if the club’s top-flight status were secured for a second season; he demanded the proposed salary be doubled. The club called his bluff (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/26/watford-contract-talks-slavisa-jokanovic-break-down), and he now manages Maccabi Tel Aviv.

What has followed is not so much a facelift as major reconstructive surgery. So overwhelmingly different does the side now appear, if they pull this off it will make Ronald Koeman’s achievements with a thoroughly remodelled Southampton side last season appear humiliatingly ho-hum.

At the helm now is Quique Sánchez Flores (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/05/watford-set-to-confirm-appointment-of-quique-flores-as-manager), who took Valencia to the Champions League quarter-final in 2007, when they lost to Chelsea, and won the Europa League with Atlético Madrid in 2010, when they beat Fulham in the final. He has had a peripatetic career, most recently managing Al Ahli and Al Ain in the United Arab Emirates, and spending six weeks at Getafe earlier this year but his pedigree is hard to question. He will need all of his nous to fashion a group of players unfamiliar not just to him but to each other into a cohesive whole – though of course the same was said of Gianfranco Zola when he arrived with a coachload of recruits in the summer of 2012, and he immediately guided the team to third in the Championship, missing out on automatic promotion in bizarre circumstances on the final day of the season (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/04/watford-leeds-united).

The existing squad have not exactly been cast aside – several have signed new contracts and the striker Matej Vydra, previously a loanee, has made his move permanent. A few – most notably the midfielders Almen Abdi and Ben Watson, centre-backs Gabriele Angella and Craig Cathcart, the Scotland winger Ikechi Anya and strikers Odion Ighalo and Vydra – are likely to make fairly regular appearances this season. But the only ones considered unequivocally top flight ready are the goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes, who despite occasional heart-in-the-mouth moments was unrecognisable last season from the calamitous carnival of blunders Tottenham fans will no doubt remember, and the striker and captain Troy Deeney.

And so the other positions – with the team likely to start the season in a 4-2-3-1 formation – were gradually filled. The Greece left-back José Holebas arrived from Roma for £1.8m, the centre-backs Sebastian Prödl, a free-transfer from Werder Bremen, and Miguel Britos, whose transfer was part of the deal that took the Udinese midfielder Allan to his previous club, Napoli, followed, with the Cameroon right-back Allan Nyom joining from Udinese (though he never played for them, and spent the past six seasons on loan at Granada). The defensive midfield slots were filled by Valon Behrami, once of West Ham, and Étienne Capoue, a club-record £6m arrival from Tottenham. José Jurado, who flourished under Sánchez Flores at Atlético, has been reunited with his former manager after signing from Spartak Moscow, and will play off the striker, while the left-footed AZ winger Steven Berghuis turned down PSV in favour of Hertfordshire. (His father Frank, a former PSV winger, memorably said of the deal: “When it comes to Watford you don’t immediately say ‘wow’. However, you do say ‘wow’ when it comes to the money.”)

There remains space for one more wide player – the club are yet to abandon their pursuit of Genoa’s Diego Perotti, even though the Argentinian rejected their advances when a fee was agreed in June. They would also like to sign another striker, going so far as to agree personal terms with Blackburn’s Rudy Gestede earlier this summer. In the end Watford decided to complete the deal only if they could sell one of the four forwards they already employ, ideally Fernando Forestieri (though Ighalo’s 23 goals in his last 24 appearances have not been enough to guarantee him a future at Watford either), and Gestede joined Aston Villa instead.

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Valon Behrami, right, is among the many players signed by Watford this summer.

What this all adds up to is a giant swamp of uncertainty but for all that there is no lack of optimism. Promotion was no fluke: Watford had a fearsome squad in the Championship, one who, unlike Norwich and Bournemouth, flourished not because of one inspirational manager but despite a succession of fairly average ones, and they have since been massively strengthened. Given the quality of some of the teams who avoided relegation from last season’s Premier League, and of Watford’s’ fellow promotees, it seems puzzling bookmakers and journalists (including ourselves, to be fair) appear united in forecasting unmitigated failure. Still, this pessimism is yet to spread to the home support, the Pozzo family’s achievements at Udinese and Granada – and in the past three years at Watford – having led fans to accept that they probably know what they are doing.

One interesting curiosity: when Watford were first promoted to the top flight, in 1982, their first five fixtures were – in alphabetical order – against Everton, Manchester City, Southampton, Swansea and West Bromwich Albion. On their return this season, their first five fixtures will be – in alphabetical order (and you can tell where this is heading) – against Everton, Manchester City, Southampton, Swansea and West Bromwich Albion. If that run somehow ends as it did the last time they went through it – with four wins, 12 points and the club top of the league – everyone else may as well burn their rule books too.

Guardian writers’ predicted position: 20th

Last season’s position: 2nd (Championship)

Odds to win the league (via Oddschecker): 5,000-1
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 08, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Premier League 2015-16 preview: Everton
By Andy Hunter (The Guardian, UK).


Roberto Martínez faces a difficult start, and has yet to seriously strengthen his squad, as he looks to prove that his disappointing second season was a blip

There was a certain kudos for Roberto Martínez in appearing the polar opposite of his predecessor a year ago. No longer. Rightly or wrongly, David Moyes established a reputation for playing down Everton’s prospects while gradually building his team up. The image Martínez must dispel in his third season at Goodison Park is of the manager who talked up Everton while swiftly bringing the team down.

Following the enterprising, re-energising debut campaign that yielded the club’s record points tally in the Premier League era, the only spectacular aspect of Martínez’s second year was the extent of Everton’s decline.

Last summer’s pre-season preview ended with a line intended to reflect the optimism and ambition of a team who had finished fifth on 72 points, secured their best young players to long-term contracts and agreed a £28m deal with Chelsea for Romelu Lukaku. “The next step is clear; to go one better,” it read. How misplaced that proved to be as an Everton squad that Martínez insisted had improved and was equipped to pursue both the Europa League title and with it Champions League qualification tumbled to 11th and 47 points.

The club’s lowest league finish in nine years and smallest points total since 2004 was accompanied by immediate exits in the FA Cup and League Cup for the first time in their history. Only from 15 March, when an appalling Newcastle United team were beaten 3-0 at Goodison, did Everton produce the momentum of three consecutive league wins to pull clear of relegation trouble. Martínez visibly aged amid the pressure and there has been little to prevent the spread of worry lines around Liverpool 4 since. Granted, with almost five weeks before the close of the transfer window, there is scope for that to change.

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John Stones has been the subject of a £20m bid from Chelsea, which Everton turned down. The Premier League champions are expected to return with a fresh offer.

Chelsea have had a £20m bid rejected for John Stones (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/18/everton-roberto-martinez-chelsea-john-stones) and a second offer for the classy defender is imminent. Everton remain adamant that Moyes’ final signing as manager is not for sale and, in a rather quaint move, put their stance on the England international in writing to the Premier League champions. Hopefully the letter removed the need for a distracting transfer saga by simply stating: “You got £50m for David Luiz.” Manchester United’s outlay on Luke Shaw last summer, £27m rising to £31m, also demonstrates the market price for young English defensive talent. And Stones is comparatively more valuable to Chelsea than Shaw is to United if, as claimed, José Mourinho sees the 21-year-old as John Terry’s heir apparent.

Martínez ideally envisages constructing a Champions League-challenging team around the emerging core of Stones, James McCarthy – another player linked with the exit this summer in the absence of a new contract offer – Ross Barkley and Lukaku. He needs another central defender even in the event of Everton resisting Chelsea’s advances for Stones with Sylvain Distin and Antolín Alcaraz released. Another striker to ease the responsibility on Lukaku is also required, with a predictable attack one of Everton’s problems last season prior to the injection of Aaron Lennon’s pace and directness while on loan from Tottenham Hotspur.

Everton balked at Spurs’ £9m valuation of Lennon, a 28-year-old with only a year remaining on his contract at White Hart Lane, and have dismissed the idea of the winger forming part of a deal for McCarthy. They can ill-afford to lose the Republic of Ireland midfielder who needs to become more of a leader for Everton next season, though Martínez retains interest in a separate deal for Lennon.

The Everton manager has confirmed he wants two further additions before the window shuts. While he would never rock the boat with a board who stood by him during last season’s many trials, there must be concern at the minimal investment in his squad so far. Gerard Deulofeu has arrived for £4.2m from Barcelona after a belatedly effective season on loan at Goodison in 2013-14 while Martínez has also sought a reunion with Tom Cleverley, a player he managed briefly at Wigan Athletic and has acquired on a free from Manchester United. Both will have to address the lack of ingenuity and sharpness that afflicted Everton last season when a sudden vulnerability in defence increased the manager’s problems.

While the club has wisely used the current broadcasting deal to reduce overall debt there is an element of risk in improving only modestly a squad that spent the bulk of last season in the lower reaches. Swansea City, Stoke City and Crystal Palace all finished above Everton in 2014-15 and have been more active in this summer’s transfer market. Not that new faces are a cure-all by any means, but ambitious players like Lukaku, Stones and others will have noted West Ham United beating their employer to the signature of the Juventus defender Angelo Ogbonna and even Mike Ashley displaying greater intent at Newcastle.

Improvement must come from within, regardless of what materialises in the market before 1 September. The manager’s selections and tactics invited scorn from supporters – his own players even made a direct appeal for Martínez to abandon possession for possession’s sake and go more direct to Lukaku – but the under-achievement was collective. The Europa League became an excuse for Premier League toils despite Everton’s worst run of form arriving during the European winter break. Their workload is reduced this term.

Barkley struggled with heightened expectation and admitted recently to suffering a loss of confidence as the season progressed. An overdue break from football this summer, with the midfielder omitted from the European Under-21 Championship, will hopefully reignite the spark. Injuries or World Cup exertions – or both – impacted on Lukaku, Tim Howard, Phil Jagielka, who eventually recovered superbly, and Leighton Baines. He and fellow full-back Seamus Coleman were contained too easily last term yet remain a potent asset. Lukaku was at times accused of coasting but it was hard not to feel sympathy for a formidable striker whose strengths were not always utilised and occasionally wasted. He still ended the season with 20 goals in all competitions.

The squad that took Everton close to a top-four finish two seasons ago remains largely intact, for now. Martínez’s men face a demanding start with eight of their opening 10 matches against teams that finished above them last time out. It is also an opportunity to show last season was the exception, not the start of a retreat to the middle ground.

Guardian writers’ predicted position: 8th
Last season’s position: 11th
Odds to win the league (via Oddschecker): 200-1
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 09, 2015, 09:25:58 AM
Premier League 2015-16 preview: West Ham United
By Jacob Steinberg (The Guardian, UK).


The stakes are high for West Ham as they enter a season with a new manager and relegation is simply not an option.

The reaction will be like a knowing tut from your mum when you cheerfully ignore her pleas to wear a jumper before venturing outside into the cold and return home with a sore throat and an all-consuming desire for sympathy.

If West Ham find themselves shivering in the winter months, they will not be able to say that no one warned them about the consequences of letting go of Sam Allardyce (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/24/west-ham-sam-allardyce-contract-not-renewed). They have been told repeatedly and ploughed on regardless, paying little heed to the received wisdom that saying goodbye to Allardyce is asking for relegation.

The one snag in that theory is that Newcastle United were relegated not because they sacked Allardyce but because Mike Ashley was presiding over a shambles, Bolton Wanderers went down five years and three managers after his decision to leave and Blackburn Rovers, well, Venky’s were too busy concentrating on signing Ronaldinho and David Beckham to hire a proper manager. It is true that West Ham are playing a dangerous game by trusting that Slaven Bilic represents an upgrade on Allardyce a year before their move to the Olympic Stadium, and Thursday night’s defeat at Astra Giurgiu means the team go into the Premier League season having already been knocked out of Europe, but it is not guaranteed that they will struggle domestically.

West Ham needed a fresh start after four years of grumbling about Allardyce. His relationship with the board and supporters had reached the point of no return at the end of last season. Although he won promotion in his first season and established West Ham in the Premier League by instilling a tougher mentality at a club whose players have had the attention span of Homer Simpson confronted by a dog with a puffy tail in the past, there was always discontent over the style of football, which was perceived to be negative and dull. Allardyce could have sneezed on the touchline and the crowd would have taken it as a sign that he was sticking 10 men behind the ball.

The reality of the Allardyce era lay somewhere between the stereotype of constant tedium and his Allardici self-hype. His football could sometimes be invigorating if one had an open mind about it, especially when Andy Carroll’s absence forced him to think outside the lump-it-in-the-box template in the first half of last season and he hit upon a diamond formation which brought the best out of Stewart Downing. However the manner of West Ham’s plummet from the top four after Christmas sealed Allardyce’s fate and a dreadful run of results convinced the owners, David Sullivan and David Gold, not to offer him a new contract. Injuries did not help Allardyce’s cause but those who insisted he had run out of ideas pointed out that he was overseeing relegation form: West Ham’s only league wins in 2015 came against Burnley, Hull City and Sunderland.

So in comes Bilic, a charismatic former West Ham defender who enjoys the backing of the crowd for now, although anyone who recalls the rancour that followed the Croatian’s controversial move to Everton in 1997 knows that attempts to depict his appointment as an emotional homecoming are slightly wide of the mark.

Bilic is still popular in east London, however, and it has been likely that he would be West Ham’s manager one day ever since his Croatia side made an impression on people in this country by qualifying for Euro 2008 at England’s expense. He has always wanted to manage in England and, unlike Allardyce, he will endear himself to supporters by saying the right things. In Turkey he was seen as something of a politician during his time at Besiktas and that charm, his appreciation of knowing what people want to hear, should buy him more time if West Ham do not hit the ground running.

A manager’s utterances should not be that important, yet they do matter in times of adversity. Although Allardyce was abrasive and never got to grips with understanding West Ham, his immense self-confidence gave him a thick skin despite the criticism that flew his way throughout most of his tenure and ensured that his players respected him.

It is not that Bilic will be a happy-clappy cheerleader, constantly banging on about the West Ham Way and the undisputable fact that they won the World Cup in 1966, but the early impression is that he will bring a touch more glamour and excitement than Allardyce. He is the kind of person who instinctively appeals to supporters and another populist move was the addition of Julian Dicks, a West Ham legend, to Bilic’s staff. Dicks managed West Ham Ladies last season, but he does not have much coaching experience.

Whether these changes will prove enough on the pitch remains unclear and it is not immediately obvious that Bilic is a better manager than Allardyce, who, for all his faults, understands the demands of English football. Bilic had a positive impact with Croatia and they were unfortunate to lose a dramatic quarter-final on penalties to Turkey at Euro 2008. His time at Lokomotiv Moscow was a disappointment and he did not win the Turkish league with Besiktas.

Equally, however, Besiktas were unable to use their stadium because of construction work during Bilic’s two years there and their title challenge last season was held back by their Europa League campaign. They pushed Arsenal hard despite losing 1-0 on aggregate to them (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/aug/27/arsenal-besiktas-champions-league-match-report) in their Champions League play-off last August, they took four points off Tottenham Hotspur (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/11/besiktas-tottenham-hotspur-europa-league-match-report) in their Europa League group and beat Liverpool on penalties (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/feb/26/besiktas-liverpool-europa-league-match-report) in the round of 32. However a source of concern is that Bilic was not appointed in the immediate aftermath of Allardyce’s departure. It had been widely accepted that Allardyce was going by the time he left on the final day of the season but Bilic was not installed until 9 June.

West Ham were frustrated in discussions with other managers. David Moyes decided to prolong his stay at Real Sociedad, Unai Emery could not be tempted away from Sevilla after they qualified for the Champions League and Rafael Benítez surprisingly decided to accept an offer from Real Madrid instead. Marseille’s Marcelo Bielsa also featured in the club’s thinking. In the end, they plumped for Bilic.

Preparations for the new season have not been ideal, with West Ham’s unexpected entry into Europe via the Fair Play League forcing them to start their season with a qualifier against the Andorran part-timers of FC Lusitans on 2 July. They have been mixing pre-season friendlies with competitive, meaningful matches and it has not been straightforward doing so while some players have been missing, others have been getting up to speed and transfer business is still being conducted.

Reading too much into pre-season games is a waste of time, but a couple of unconvincing performances have made the mood more cautious. A side that was packed with reserves needed penalties to beat Malta’s FC Birkirkara on penalties in the second qualifying round and how very West Ham that they should qualify for Europe because of their fine disciplinary record and then pick up three stupid red cards in their first five matches. Diafra Sakho and James Tomkins reacted to provocation against Lusitans and Birkirkara respectively, and West Ham squandered a 2-0 lead against FC Astra Giurgi after James Collins was sent off for two quick bookings in the first leg last week.

Ultimately going out to Astra on Thursday night might have be a blessing in disguise. West Ham finished 12th last season, which hardly suggests that they are equipped to deal with the demands of the Europa League. Better sides than West Ham have struggled to recover after their exertions on a Thursday night and their squad lacks depth. The priority is staying up; imagine the embarrassment if West Ham’s final season at Upton Park ends with them going down and beginning the Olympic Stadium era in the Championship.

That is the worst-case scenario, although with a couple more additions in key areas, West Ham should be strong enough to finish in mid-table. They played well for an hour against Astra. Bilic used a 4-3-1-2 formation which had Dimitri Payet operating in a free role and the French winger can be expected to dazzle after his arrival from Marseille. Tempting Payet to West Ham is a sign of ambition, assuming he settles in England and that he does not turn out to be more of a Rémy Cabella than a David Ginola. Payet created plenty of goals for Marseille last season.

However the 2-2 draw with Astra was marred by Enner Valencia’s injury (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/03/west-ham-enner-valencia-not-need-surgery-knee-ankle-astra-giurgiu). Shortly after Valencia had given West Ham the lead with a powerful header from Payet’s cross, he was taken off on a stretcher. The good news is that he does not need surgery on his knee and ankle and should be out for roughly 10 weeks rather than the six months that were initially feared. The bad news is that Valencia’s absence means that with Andy Carroll not expected to return from his knee injury until October, West Ham are one Sakho injury away from having to rely on Modibo Maïga and Mauro Zárate up front.

West Ham must sign a striker, because Maïga is out of his depth and Zárate is a luxury player who hangs on to the ball for too long. They are trying to get a work permit for Atlético Madrid’s Mexican forward Raúl Jiménez and are also targeting Queens Park Rangers’ Charlie Austin. Jiménez was not prolific for Atlético; QPR will need to lower their £15m valuation of Austin.

What will Bilic have planned for Carroll when he returns? Carroll was Allardyce’s biggest signing at £15m from Liverpool two years ago but he has been blighted by injuries at Upton Park, every promising run of form scuppered by another lengthy spell on the sidelines. As likable as the big striker is, he is veering dangerously close to being written off as a dud. Yet although he may not be an automatic starter under Bilic, he can still be a hugely effective option, not least when he is paired with another striker. His lack of pace makes West Ham predictable, easy to defend against and too quick to launch the ball long when Carroll plays on his own up front.

They were at their most devastating as an attacking force last season when Sakho and Valencia started together. Sakho surely would have scored more than 12 goals after joining for £3.5m from Metz if his season had not been prematurely ended by a thigh injury in April and the pair were pivotal in West Ham’s victories over Liverpool and Manchester City during the autumn.

That was when West Ham were playing with a diamond in midfield. Downing was superb in that system and watching him link up with Payet would have been a delight – yet he was allowed to follow his heart and move back to Middlesbrough. Payet was supposed to complement Downing rather than be his replacement and his departure has left West Ham searching for another creative player.

Matt Jarvis has no end product and even less confidence, Morgan Amalfitano is too inconsistent to start regularly, Martin Samuelsen is only 18 and West Ham have taken a punt on Manuel Lanzini, a 22-year-old Argentinian forward who has joined on loan from Al Jazira Club in Qatar. For what it is worth, Lanzini’s nickname is The Jewel and will hopefully turn out to be more useful than the last South American player brought in from Qatar, Nenê. Payet will need some more assistance than just Lanzini and West Ham are targeting Barcelona’s young Croatian, Alen Halilovic.

Another Barcelona player who could join is Alex Song, who was on loan at West Ham last season. He made them tick before Christmas and although his form fizzled out, signing him on a permanent basis would undeniably be a coup. The deal was held up after Song injured an ankle.

If it goes through, he will slip into a midfield that already has a solid look to it. The versatile Cheikhou Kouyaté had an outstanding debut season in England and Mark Noble is dependable, while Pedro Obiang was highly rated at Sampdoria.

Diego Poyet, neat and tidy, will hope to be involved more and Reece Oxford, who is only 16, has been assured as a defensive midfielder in pre-season, but Kevin Nolan’s best days are behind him. The captain is too slow, although he can be a useful ally for Bilic in the dressing room if he is ready to accept a reduced role.

Leadership should not be an issue, though. West Ham’s defence will be tough to penetrate if Bilic organises the team well. In goal, Adrián has developed into a cult hero, saving more than his fair share of penalties, and will be backed up by Darren Randolph, a free transfer from Birmingham City.

The right-back will be Carl Jenkinson, who has joined on loan from Arsenal again, and the diligent Aaron Cresswell will continue on the left. Joey O’Brien will provide cover for Jenkinson, Stephen Hendrie for Cresswell after his arrival from Hamilton Academicals.

Bilic’s options at centre-back are enviable. Winston Reid’s partner is likely to be Angelo Ogbonna after the Italy international left Juventus and Tomkins and Collins are able deputies. The Canada international, Doneil Henry, will push for recognition, while Reece Burke has impressed during a few cameos. Allardyce was content with only three centre-backs, a gamble that backfired on a couple of occasions, but West Ham have competition for places now.

There are holes that need to be filled elsewhere, but many of the pieces are there for Bilic, who needs to assemble them in the right order quickly. West Ham are in a unique position, the pressure on them to stay up more extreme than it has ever been. Relegation this season would be disaster from both a financial and PR perspective. Leaving Upton Park will be enough of an emotional wrench without people queuing up to tell them how misguided they were to get rid of Allardyce come the end of the season.

Guardian writers’ predicted position: 12th
Last season’s position: 12th
Odds to win the league (via Oddschecker): 1,500-1

Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 09, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
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Interesting how van Gaal slid van Persie out the door with not much fanfare. Another manager, and van Persie probably wouldn't be going anywhere.

Didn't realize that van Persie and Nani ended up at Fenerbahce. Perhaps one will be missed more than the other.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 09, 2015, 09:39:50 AM
Premier League 2015-16 preview: Arsenal
By Amy Lawrence (The Guardian, UK).


... A good start has been drummed into the players, particularly as they began sluggishly last time, with a load of draws that had them playing catch-up.

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So much for that ...
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 09, 2015, 09:46:59 AM
Arsenal 0 West Ham 2

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Give me some old rope and I’ll find you an Arsenal season ticket. That was, as comedowns in north London go, among the most spectacular in a long list and all the more so because Petr Cech, cited by many as the finishing touch to Arsenal’s well oiled machine, did himself absolutely no favour there. Glaringly at fault for the first and complicit in a chain of errors for Zarate’s opportunistic second, his performance was a considerable factor in West Ham’s win although you have to give Slaven Bilic and his men big credit.

Yes, you do. From the first couple of minutes it was clear that they would get on the ball and get men forward when they could and, while they spent a couple of periods under the cosh, they generally played with a sense of authority that you’d have been forgiven for thinking was beyond them. Arsenal, who seemed flustered and hurried in possession, created a number of half-chances but rarely got behind a team superbly marshalled by Winston Reid and bolstered by a remarkably mature display by the 16-year-old Reece Oxford. Most of us underestimated West Ham today but the manner of their performance suggested the win was no accident.

As for Arsenal, they’ll go again at Palace next week. It’s just one defeat, just one blip in what has been a positive year, and there is plenty of time for them to go on the title charge many expect. But there will be alarm bells that, regardless of personnel, the same errors keep repeating themselves at inopportune moments. It seems systemic and needs to be cut out if they’re to get to the next level.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2015/aug/09/arsenal-v-west-ham-premier-league-live
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 09, 2015, 10:05:23 AM
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Christian Benteke, a long-standing Brendan Rodgers target, has been brought in to ensure Liverpool do not lack firepower.

Premier League 2015-16 preview: Liverpool
By Sachin Nakrani (The Guardian, UK).


After a season of disappointment that reached an anticlimax with the 6-1 defeat at the Britannia Stadium, Liverpool go back to Stoke on the opening weekend with much to prove and Brendan Rodgers feeling the pressure

Brendan Rodgers’ reaction to the release of the 2015-16 Premier League fixtures in mid-June would have made for an interesting sight. Up first for Liverpool: a trip to Stoke. Not what any club would want, but ever the optimist Rodgers may well have greeted the news with a smile. Here, after all, was the chance to make an immediate amends for arguably the lowest moment of his managerial career, to quickly right an almighty wrong.

To many Liverpool supporters it is now simply known as “the 6-1” (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/24/stoke-city-liverpool-premier-league-match-report). That scarcely believable afternoon last May when their team were humiliated at the Britannia Stadium. It was a rotten way to end what had been a rotten season and a wretched denouement to Steven Gerrard’s 17-year association with his boyhood club. Afterwards, with Liverpool having finished sixth in the Premier League and 25 points behind the champions, Chelsea, Rodgers accepted his job was on the line. “I’ve always said if the owners want me to go, then I’ll go,” he said.

But Rodgers survived and is poised to begin a fourth season in the Anfield hot seat. He is under pressure like never before and that is why a return to Stoke exactly 11 weeks after Liverpool’s biggest thumping in more than half a century may just be what the team and their manager needs. Ghosts can be laid.

Rodgers is a polarising figure and what is dividing many before the new season is the Northern Irishman’s credentials as a top-level manager. His backers will point to the 2013-14 campaign as proof that he is a forward-thinking, inspirational leader, capable of amalgamating players of varying talent and temperament into one of the most breathtaking teams English football has seen, and one that came agonisingly close to winning the club’s first league title in 24 years.

Rodgers’ critics, on the other hand, will shift attention to last season when Liverpool looked devoid of ideas and character on numerous occasions, failing to make any sort of impact in the title race as well as meekly surrendering to Aston Villa in the FA Cup semi-final and exiting the Champions League at the group stages.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle. Rodgers is neither the second coming nor the emperor’s new clothes. What he must prove, however, is that the 2013-14 campaign was not a flash in the pan and that, under his charge, Liverpool can reestablish themselves as a genuine force in English football. At the very least, they need to be contending for a top-four finish until the very last stages of the season.

What doesn’t help the manager’s cause is a second successive summer in which he has lost a key player. Raheem Sterling may not be Luis Suárez but he was an important element of Rodgers’s plans. Aged 20 and having been at the club since he was 15, Sterling was meant to be Anfield for some time. Instead he moved to Manchester City amid much acrimony.

Losing a player of Sterling’s quality and potential was a blow for Liverpool and the fear for many of their fans has been that the £49m City paid for him would not be reinvested wisely. After all, when Suárez moved to Barcelona last summer, Liverpool’s transfer committee, of which Rodgers is a part, took the £75m they has got for the Uruguayan and, alongside another £31m, signed nine players who largely ranged from the unproven to the unremarkable in order to beef up the squad and fit in line with the strategy of the owner, Fenway Sports Group, to get “maximum value for what is spent”.

A sensible long-term approach but in the short term the result was disastrous. Liverpool endured their worst start to a league campaign in 22 years, and although Suárez’s absence was an obvious factor, as was the long-term loss through injury of Daniel Sturridge (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/05/daniel-sturridge-liverpool-surgery-new-york-boston-brendan-rodgers), it was also the case that the vast majority of those who arrived in the summer simply did not come to the fore. Indeed the only one who can be deemed to have had a good season was the Germany Under-21 international Emre Can.

A lack of goals was Liverpool’s biggest problem, with the two forwards they brought in, Mario Balotelli and Rickie Lambert, scoring just three between them in the league. The team simply cannot afford to be so blunt again if they are to progress, and in that regard Sturridge’s absence until October after hip surgery and the departure of Liverpool’s two leading scorers from last season, Gerrard and Sterling, are unhelpful to say the least.

However, the purchases of Roberto Firmino and Christian Benteke suggest Rodgers and his fellow committee members have this time made the right moves to ensure the team are not short of firepower.

Firmino built a reputation during his four and a half years at Hoffenheim as being a tactically intelligent forward with an unrelenting work ethic. Remind you of anyone? OK, he’s no Suárez either, but for £29m Liverpool appear to have signed a player who, unlike Lambert and Balotelli, suits their style of play under Rodgers. And although the 23-year-old Brazil international is not a prolific goalscorer – he got just seven in 33 appearances for Hoffenheim last season – he knows how to provide opportunities for others. Indeed, no player created more goalscoring chances in the Bundesliga during the past two years (138) than Liverpool’s new No11.

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Phillipe Coutinho, here playing against Porto B in pre-season, is a player around whom Liverpool can build their attacking shape.

If Firmino’s job is to supply the ammunition then Benteke’s is to fire the bullets, and a record of 49 goals in 101 games for Aston Villa shows the 24-year-old can do just that. Despite this, the Belgian’s arrival has not gone down well with all Liverpool fans, with his £30m-plus fee and sizeable frame bringing about Andy Carroll flashbacks.

Such comparisons are somewhat unfair – Benteke is a far more mobile player than Carroll, able to drive into space and directly at opposition defenders, with and without the ball. Yes, the £32.5m fee is high, but unlike with Carroll in 2011, and indeed with Balotelli last summer, Liverpool did not make their move in a blind panic – Benteke was a long-standing Rodgers target. “He’ll fit our tactical idea of the game and he can be a huge player for us,” said the manager.

Two other forwards have arrived: Danny Ings from Burnley and Divock Origi, from Lille, who was actually one of the nine players purchased last summer but remained with the French club for an extra season. Both are raw but also have the attributes to fit into Rodgers’ style of play.

Some would suggest the signings of Firmino, Benteke and Ings, alongside those of James Milner, Nathaniel Clyne, Joe Gomez and Adam Bogdan, show that for a second successive summer Liverpool have pursued a quantity-over-proven-quality transfer strategy, but the club were simply not in a position to shop at the top end of the market having failed to qualify for the Champions League, and what they can at least be praised for is acting quickly and decisively in regards to their transfer business.

And no deal was done quicker than that for Milner, with the midfielder signing on a free transfer from Manchester City just 11 days after the end of the previous season. Aged 29 and with two Premier League titles to his name, the England international provides Liverpool with a level of experience and winning knowhow it requires in the post-Gerrard era. His appears a shrewd move.

Rodgers’ task is to fit his players into a functioning, coherent unit, something Liverpool often did not appear to be last season when the manager took his reputation for tactical flexibility to bewildering extremes. A host of different formations were deployed, sometimes in a single match, with players regularly used out of position. It all came to a head during the “battering at the Britannia” when Liverpool looked lost at sea.

What seems certain is that Rodgers will go with a four-man defence, having deployed a three centre-back system for a period last season, with Milner and the new captain, Jordan Henderson, his midfield bedrock. The top end of the pitch is less easy to call with a host of players vying for first-team places, including 19-year-old winger Jordon Ibe, who caught the eye during Liverpool’s recent tour of Australia and Asia. But one thing is for sure: the team’s attacking shape should centre around Philippe Coutinho. The Brazilian was Liverpool’s one real shining light last season and has what it takes to dazzle for years to come.

It is perhaps unfair that there is so much scrutiny on Rodgers following last season’s failings. After all, he was not wholly responsible for the players who arrived post-Suárez and the players themselves must take their share of blame for how the team performed. But as is the nature of football, it is the manager who carries the greatest burden for failure and, having kept his job while two of his backroom allies in Colin Pascoe and Mike Marsh lost theirs, Rodgers must now prove he was the right man all along.

It will not be easy given the loss of Sterling, the task of bedding in another batch of recruits and juggling a domestic campaign with the gruelling rigours of the Europa League. That’s not to mention a start to the Premier League season in which, post-Stoke, Liverpool travel to Arsenal, Manchester United, Everton, Tottenham, Chelsea and Manchester City before the end of November. But Rodgers has no choice but to rise to the challenge. His job, almost certainly, depends on it.

“I promise I’ll fight for my life and the people in this city,” Rodgers said upon becoming Liverpool manager in June 2012. Now is the time to come out swinging.

Guardian writers’ predicted position: 5th
Last season’s position: 6th
Odds to win the league (via Oddschecker): 22-1

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Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 09, 2015, 05:14:06 PM
Premier League 2015-16 preview: Stoke City
By Paul Doyle (The Guardian, UK).


Mark Hughes has assembled a talented squad and the quality of football should remain high. There’s a danger of Stoke becoming the new darlings of hipsters

For his next trick, Mark Hughes will step down and entrust the Stoke City reins to Arsène Wenger. Or maybe not, but we can’t rule it out completely because the Welshman is working some kind of magic at the Britannia Stadium, where seats risk being ripped out before the new season and replaced by bean bags. For there is a real danger of Stoke becoming the new darlings of hipsters.

That must be quite a culture shock for locals who, for most of the time since their club’s return to the top flight a decade ago, have prided themselves on their team’s ability to defy and offend bien pensant types. It must also amaze all the people who, when they heard talk of Stoke being given a makeover two years ago, couldn’t help but picture Lemmy in lipstick. Oh my, Delilah! But Hughes has made it work and now, even though they will not challenge for the title nor dice with relegation, Stoke are going to be one of the most interesting sides to look at this season.

They have already been one of the most interesting recruiters of the summer. Going from Barcelona to Stoke used to be seen as akin to regressing from man to chimp, but now it seems a sensible and exciting evolution. After luring Marc Muniesa in 2013 and, most of all, Bojan Krkic last summer, Stoke have signed Ibrahim Afellay and Moha El Ouriachi ahead of this campaign. Bojan was wonderful until he was struck down by knee ligament damage in January – his imminent return is another reason to watch Stoke keenly this season – and if either of the latest arrivals from Camp Nou have a similar impact, then Hughes will have pulled off another masterstroke.

There are doubts about both players of course – El Ouriachi is only 19 and Afellay, now 29, has struggled for years to fulfil his potential, but both clearly have rare talent and could embellish Stoke’s creativity from out wide. That is an area where the side still need to improve if they are to better last season’s Premier League goal tally of 48, which was higher than they ever achieved under Tony Pulis. Marko Arnautovic, at times brilliant, was inconsistent last season and their most regularly dangerous winger, Victor Moses, has returned to Chelsea after a quietly excellent season on loan.

The loss of Moses has not attracted as much commentary as the departures of Asmir Begovic and Steven N’Zonzi but could prove problematic if Afellay or Moha flop. But there is a still a fair chance Hughes will capture another uplifting signing before the transfer window closes, having not abandoned hope of prising Andriy Yarmolenko from Dynamo Kiev.

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Ibrahim Afellay, here playing for Holland, has the pedigree of four years with Barcelona.
 
The wingers will have a decent array of strikers to serve. Mame Birame Diouf scored 12 league goals last season and seemed to improve as the campaign progressed, his movement becoming more elusive and his finishing surer. Peter Crouch, Jon Walters (who often wreaked havoc from wide, as, indeed, did Diouf, especially when counterattacking away) and maybe even Peter Odemwingie are still potent centre-forwards and Joselu, a 25-year-old former Real Madrid reserve, signed this summer from Hannover for £5.75m, offers a different option and is another intriguing recruit.

But in midfield N’Zonzi needs to be replaced. The Frenchman earned a transfer to Sevilla with performances at Stoke that made him a strong all-round influence, negating opponents’ attacks and orchestrating his own team’s, being an influential conduit in a side who, shredding the stereotype, averaged the same amount of possession as Swansea City last season.

Marko van Ginkel, on loan from Chelsea, has been given N’Zonzi’s old jersey but although the Dutchman is highly talented, asking him to emulate N’Zonzi after two injury-hampered years is a tall order. Again, it would not be surprising if Hughes sought to strengthen his options. He’s got Charlie Adam and Stephen Ireland, of course, but what a thrill it would be if Xherdan Shaqiri had a change of heart and decided to join the Stoke style revolution after all. Or perhaps Hughes could attract someone else similar. With Krkic close to regaining full fitness, just think what frolics could be had!

Brendan Rodgers might not relish a return to the Britannia so soon after the 6-1 annihilation there on the final day of last season, but it might actually be a blessing to visit Stoke on the first day before they are fully assembled and really into their stride.

Begovic will not be badly missed if Jack Butland does as well as expected, and Shay Given could serve as a reliable stand-in at times, though whether he is still of the required standard to keep goal for months in the event of injury to Butland is questionable.

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Marco van Ginkel, here in action in a friendly against Wrexham, has joined Stoke on loan from Chelsea.

At least Stoke’s defence will likely be even more solid than last season, when frequent injuries, even to the previously indomitable Ryan Shawcross, regularly forced Hughes to improvise at the back, which made achieving the sixth best defensive record in the league all the more impressive. That also showed, of course, that while introducing more flair, Hughes has not discarded the qualities that enabled Stoke to establish themselves in the top flight under Pulis. Glen Johnson needs to embrace those qualities if he is to prove a useful acquisition.

After the fiasco at Queens Park Rangers, Hughes has restored his managerial reputation by revamping Stoke without spending fortunes and guiding them to two successive top-half finishes. If he were to make it three in a row, that would be the first time for Stoke since 1937. That season is also remembered fondly for attacking fiestas – including a 10-3 win over West Bromwich Albion, which is still a club record – and a record home attendance of 51,380 – for a visit by Arsenal, who, it seems, Stoke have always relished hosting.

Arsenal may not perform as badly at the Britannia this season as they did when losing 3-2 last term, but they are unlikely to enjoy their trip there, and nor will any other opponent. Hipsters, on the other hand, could be in for a treat.

Guardian writers’ predicted position: 7th
Last season’s position: 9th
Odds to win the league (via Oddschecker): 1,000-1

Related Video (http://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2015/aug/04/stoke-city-2015-16-season-preview-premier-league-mark-hughes-video)
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 10, 2015, 11:56:17 AM
Premier League 2015-16 preview: West Brom
By Ian McCourt (The Guardian, UK).


Rickie Lambert is a shrewd signing during a quiet summer for the Baggies, but Tony Pulis’s major goal will be making sure Saido Berahino stays at The Hawthorns

It is only a few days since the Victoria & Albert museum’s doors closed on the first major retrospective of Alexander McQueen’s art. The exhibition was adorned with those how-do-you-walk-in-them armadillo boots as well as quotes from McQueen explaining his philosophy. There was one, however, that they missed out on. “Give me time,” he once said, “and I’ll give you a revolution.” It’s a maxim that could easily be applied to the work of Tony Pulis.

Under Alan Irvine, West Bromwich Albion had lost direction and when they trooped off the pitch at Stoke last Christmas (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/28/stoke-city-west-bromwich-albion-premier-league-match-report) with nothing to show for their efforts, they had lost seven in nine games.

That meant Irvine had won only four games in 19 attempts and only one point separated the Baggies from the sticky mud of the relegation zone. In his interview after that defeat, Irvine said he would concentrate on the game against West Ham United but by the time that came around four days later, he was gone and Pulis had been parachuted in to replace him (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/dec/31/tony-pulis-west-brom-tim-sherwood). The club’s then technical director Terry Burton said of Pulis: “He made it clear that this position excited him and that he was eager to get back into the business of winning Premier League points, and there are few who know how to do it better.”

It was a prescient statement as under Pulis a team that were more ragged than a Dickensian orphan’s clothes reappeared looking suited and booted. As you would expect, most of the Pulis revolution took place at the back. Starting with the 1-0 win over Hull City on 10 January, West Brom kept 10 clean sheets in 18 games, more than any other Premier League club during that period. There were blips and glitches – see the four defeats in five league games in March and April for further details – but safety was achieved as it always is with Pulis. He is the manager who has never been relegated, a comfort-blanket fact that should give West Brom fans a warm glow inside after the boing-boing years of the 2000s.

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Rickie Lambert had an unhappy time at Liverpool but will be a threat up front for West Brom.

There will be no relegation for the Baggies this time around but the success of their season will depend on their business in the transfer market. So far this summer, players such as Chris Baird, Graham Dorrans, Youssouf Mulumbu, Georgios Samaras and more besides, have been pointed in the direction of the exit door. Not all were regular starters under Pulis – a manager whose circle of trust is a small one – but with only three signings so far, their exit leaves the squad short, a fact that alarms even the players.

“When you look around the squad and you see how many people were there on Saturday and you see the bench … we’ve not got a lot of numbers,” Darren Fletcher said after the pre-season win over Swindon Town. “Gareth McAuley came off injured and it’s a case of whenever someone feels something there’s a panic because we are low on numbers. It is not ideal. We know the manager is desperate to change that. It needs to be done before we get into the season.”

Pulis did not disagree. “We need to bring players in,” he said. “[But] the important thing is that we get the right players. Don’t throw mud at the wall and hope that things stick … I’m not going to say how many [players we need] but it is quite a few.” That hoping-the-mud-will-stick approach is a perfect summation of last season’s fairly calamitous purchases so Pulis is right to be cautious.

His first signing, James McClean from Wigan Athletic, is a good one. When McClean first strutted on to the Premier League scene for Sunderland, his direct running and old-fashioned wing play was a joy to behold. Since then he has evolved into a more well-rounded player with a significant defensive aspect to his game, all of which means he should fit snugly into Pulis’s plans.

The signing of Rickie Lambert is also a smart move by Pulis. His side were far too reliant last season on the brilliance of Saido Berahino – the 22-year old scored 20 goals in all competitions, 13 more than any of his team-mates – and on set pieces, the source of 23 of their 51 league goals (including penalties).

Lambert joins the club after an ill-spent season at Liverpool and the former Southampton striker sounded suitably fired up. “I feel as if I’ve got a point to prove to myself,” he said. “That’s always the biggest drive – yourself – and it will carry on being that way.”

The third and final signing is James Chester from Hull, whose adaptability should see him provide decent cover on the right-hand side of the backline.

McClean will add width and speed but Pulis knows that he needs more and that is why Bakary Sako, who was available on a free from Wolverhampton Wanderers, was one of his top targets. The summer-long game of kiss chase between these two failed, however, to end in an embrace as the France-born Mali international joined Crystal Palace on Wednesday.

His signature and skills would have been a boon for Pulis but now the manager must take another look at Matt Phillips. Queens Park Rangers value him at £10m but it is arguable whether West Brom should pay that much for a player reportedly eager for a swift return to the top flight.

Apart from another winger, Pulis will want another goalkeeper, given that Ben Foster is out until at least October and that there are questions around Boaz Myhill and his ability to command his box. There have been confirmed inquires as to the availability of Cardiff City’s David Marshall, but as yet nothing has come of them. The manager may also want more cover at the back and, given last season’s poor return of the club’s record signing, Brown Ideye (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/18/brown-ideye-west-brom-record-fee), another striker. Of course, the biggest signing of the season may be internal should Berahino be convinced to reject the overtures of others.

One of the recurring accusations levelled at Pulis is that watching his side can be anything but easy on the eye. That was true of his time at Stoke but not so much of his time at Crystal Palace. At Selhurst Park he added an exciting counterattacking touch to his tried and trusted approach of hard work, organisation and discipline. Keeping Berahino to play alongside Lambert (in the same way Marouane Chamakh and Cameron Jerome combined), as well as getting his hands on Phillips – or possibly Nottingham Forest’s Michail Antonio – would logically see Pulis revert to those tactics and should ease supporters’ legitimate fears about the lack of style on show at the Hawthorns.

West Brom have a tough opening to the campaign with games against Manchester City (home), Watford (away), Chelsea (home) and Stoke (away) and a run of opening defeats could dissuade intended targets from signing up. However, should these players fail to arrive, there will be no need to panic. Pulis will still be able to drive his side to safety. But his ultimate aim, of reinventing the club as a top-10 side, will surely remain unfulfilled this season. But give him time, he will get them there.

Guardian writers’ predicted position: 13th
Last season’s position: 13th
Odds to win the league (via Oddschecker): 2,000-1

Related Video (http://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2015/aug/07/west-brom-2015-16-season-premier-league-preview-video)
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 10, 2015, 12:01:25 PM
West Bromwich Albion sign Venezuela striker Salomón Rondón for £12m
By Sam Robinson (The Guardian, UK).


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West Bromwich Albion have confirmed the signing of the Venezuela international Salomón Rondón. The striker, who has signed a four-year contract at The Hawthorns, joins from Zenit St Petersburg for a club-record fee of around £12m.

The head coach Tony Pulis said: “He’s got a fantastic goalscoring record in some of the top leagues in Europe and for his country. He’s 25 years of age and still to fulfil his full potential.

“We hope he hits the ground running of course, but understand it might take him time to settle. I’m sure our fans will help him and get behind him.

” But we feel with age on his side and the prices English clubs are asking for their players, it’s a deal worth doing.”

Rondón said: “I am very happy to be here. This is a new opportunity in my career. I can’t wait to be with the other players and to play. The club showed a lot of interest in me, that’s what is important for a player, what you take into account, and there are expectations of me.”
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 10, 2015, 12:09:09 PM
What's Venezuela's position on the most recent FIFA rankings?
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 10, 2015, 12:22:40 PM
Premier League 2015-16 preview: Manchester City
By Paul Wilson (The Guardian, UK).


Manuel Pellegrini has not gone in for a full squad overhaul but that may be due to company policy in what may well be his valedictory season at the club

Manchester City are among the big spenders of European football, they have just been released from restrictions on incoming transfers based on Financial Fair Play rules (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/18/uefa-relax-financial-fair-play-michel-platini) and there is still a month of the transfer window to go. So maybe there is still some Kevin de Bruyne-shaped business to be conducted (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/23/football-transfer-rumours-manchester-city-chelsea) before the squad for the 2015-16 season is complete.

And maybe there is not. The season starts in just over a week, after all. City with Manuel Pellegrini in charge have traditionally done their trading early and decisively, eschewing the uncertainty of last-day drama.

Unlike Manchester United, who have bought themselves a whole new midfield this summer and are still bemoaning the lack of genuine creativity, City are fairly happy with what is already at the club. They were champions two seasons ago and runners-up last time out. They may need a few tweaks to remain competitive but they are not in the market for an overhaul, especially with a manager widely believed to be in his last season at the Etihad.

There, perhaps, is the explanation for the apparent stasis. If there is to be a new manager coming along in a year’s time, leaving aside the question of whether his name is Pep (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/02/manuel-pellegrini-manchester-city-pressure-pep-guardiola) and he is currently in charge of Bayern Munich, it would not make sense to let the outgoing manager spend too much money on changing the side in ways that his successor may not approve of.

Yes, City have just raised the transfer record for an English player to £49m for Raheem Sterling but that could be viewed as a declaration of intent for the future. Sterling is 20 years of age and could easily be a prize asset for the next decade or more. Pellegrini is saying warm, complimentary things about him now, as well he might, though it is on the whole unlikely that the manager went to his superiors and said there is a lad at Liverpool we ought to buy at any price.

City have people in place to do that sort of business without being asked, to identify the most promising talent at the optimum age, so that potential managers of the future, including Mr G of Bavaria, can look over the squad and see the club is in a position to compete.

It is a bit like United buying Wayne Rooney in 2004. Everyone could see he was the brightest English attacking player around, most likely a fixture in the England team for a decade or more to come, so hang the expense and buy him to ensure he gives his best years to your cause and no one else’s.

That is the theory, anyway. Of more immediate concern to City fans is whether Sterling alone can make a significant difference to the club’s chances of finishing ahead of Chelsea. The only other signings City have made to date are two more English players, neither of whom is expected to make an immediate impact. Patrick Roberts, a slight but highly promising teenage acquisition from Fulham, is one for the long term. Fabian Delph, formerly of Leeds and Aston Villa, has been given assurances he will feature in midfield, despite the fairly hefty claims of Yaya Touré, Fernandinho and the rest, although he is injured.

Of those three signings only Sterling will arouse genuine early-season excitement. He has done well against City in the past – weakening Liverpool was a not insignificant part of the attraction of the deal – and he appears to be just the sort of lively, irrepressible forward who can correct the tendency in Pellegrini’s players last season to stroke the ball around elegantly without summoning the urgency or penetration to hurt opponents.

Yet, and this is quite a big yet, a lack of incision up front was not City’s only shortcoming last season. There were also problems in central defence, where Martín Demichelis is not getting any younger, Eliaquim Mangala is not developing as quickly or as smoothly as had been anticipated, and Vincent Kompany ended the season with question marks over his decision-making and positioning.

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Fabian Delph has been given assurances he will feature in midfield but he suffered a hamstring injury on his Manchester City debut in a friendly in Australia

As Burnley’s George Boyd said after the City defeat at Turf Moor that proved an expensive low point in Pellegrini’s season, the then champions do not possess a commanding backline. “If you get in their faces they don’t like it and they have several players who don’t track back as much as they should,” Boyd said. “Liverpool noticed the same thing and exploited it. You can usually find space if you know where to look.”

That is quite a damning criticism, even if – or perhaps especially because – Burnley ended up relegated, yet little appears to have been done to shore up the defence. Perhaps Delph was bought in an effort to persuade Touré to track back more but that is about the best one can say. City are now up against a José Mourinho version of Chelsea, which inevitably comes with the most solid of backlines and a super-organised defensive screen ahead of it.

In comparison City are not as slick. They have issues in central defence and the efforts of their defensive midfielders have been haphazard. Are they going to buy a central defender before the deadline? Or perhaps another striker will be needed should Edin Dzeko follow Stevan Jovetic out of the club.

Wilfried Bony is still around and Sterling should be more than useful but once again it appears City will need an extraordinary season from Sergio Agüero to challenge for major prizes. For a club of their resources, that is a slightly deflating statement to keep making. If the model is Barcelona, then you do not just keep looking to Lionel Messi for inspiration but you add Luis Suárez and Neymar, even if it means freezing out Pedro. It could be argued Sterling is a step in that direction, though on its own it might not be enough.

Similarly, while Delph might be a decent acquisition by English standards, he would struggle to make the Barcelona midfield or even Chelsea’s or Arsenal’s. City should be good for a top-four place next season. They do not appear to be gearing up for a fully committed title challenge, even allowing for the possibility of De Bruyne joining the project. Maybe the season after, once they break free of planning blight.

Guardian writers’ predicted position: 4th
Last season’s position: 2nd
Odds to win the league (via Oddschecker): 11-4

Related Video (http://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2015/jul/31/manchester-city-2015-16-season-preview-premier-league-video)
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2015, 10:24:22 AM
Diego Costa is a pest. His playing personality adds a lot. Watching him after the elbow from Fernandinho and he's been simply that ... a pest.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Sam on August 16, 2015, 11:52:09 AM
City was just to good today, Yaya, Aguero, Silva and Kompany come out to play this season. Surprisingly Fernandinho, Kolarov and Navas did good to.

Hazard, they to reliant on him and he look like he really to mess down de season.

Costa is a boss, he wicked no ass, but he does fight, de thing is, he hoping for de call to much, just play de ball nah.

Willian does play like he need ah worm out.

Begovic might stay number one, he to good.

Terry and Cahill lame, especially Terry.

Cuadrado is a mess.

Fabregas and Matic played some good ball.

Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 19, 2015, 02:29:18 AM
TV Report: EPL buries Bundesliga and Ligue 1 on cable
by Paul Kennedy (Soccer America).


The German Bundesliga kicked off its 2015-16 season on Fox Sports, which aired six games over three networks for its first week of coverage, drawing a cumulative average audience of 268,000 viewers. The eight English Premier League games on NBC Universal networks were watched by 3,039,000 viewers, while the four French Ligue 1 games on BeIN Sports were watched by 42,000 viewers.

English Premier League Live on U.S. Cable
AVG. MATCH, NETWORK (DAY)
818,000 Man. City-Chelsea, NBCSN (Sunday)
465,000 Aston Villa-Man. United, NBCSN (Friday)
450,000 Tottenham-Southampton, NBCSN (Saturday)
417,000 Crystal Palace-Arsenal, NBCSN (Sunday)
384,000 Liverpool-Bournemouth, NBCSN (Monday)
307,000 Southampton-Everton, NBCSN (Saturday)
149,000 West Ham-Leicester City, USA Network (Saturday)
47,000 West Bromwich-Watford, NBC Universo (Saturday)
Total: 3,039,000

German Bundesliga Live on U.S. Cable
AVG. MATCH, NETWORK (DAY)
74,000 Hoffenheim-Bayer Leverkusen, Fox Sports 2 & Fox Deportes (Saturday)
Fox Sports 2: 34,000; Fox Deportes: 40,000.
54,000 Bayern Munich-Hamburg, Fox Sports 2 & Fox Deportes (Friday)
Fox Sports 2: 32,000; Fox Deportes: 22,000.
50,000 Ein. Frankfurt-Wolfsburg, Fox Sports 1 (Sunday)
42,000 Bor. M'Gladbach-Bor. Dortmund, Fox Sports 2 (Saturday)
29,000 Hertha Berlin-Augsburg, Fox Deportes (Saturday)
19,000 FC Cologne-VfB Stuttgart, Fox Deportes (Sunday)

French Ligue 1 Live on U.S. Cable
25,000 Ajaccio-Paris SG, BeIN Sports (Sunday)
6,000 Bastia-Lorient, BeIN Sports (Sunday)
6,000 Lyon-Guingamp, BeIN Sports (Saturday)
5,000 Lille-Monaco, BeIN Sports (Friday)
Note: Bein Sports en Espanol viewers unavailable.

Source: http://sportstvratings.com
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 22, 2015, 01:16:16 AM
Nicolas Otamendi and Manchester City underline Argentina influence in Prem
By Sam Kelly (ESPN).


The summer transfer window in 2014 might prove a turning point in English football's relationship with Argentine players.

Argentines were no strangers to English clubs beforehand but seemed to explode in numbers around a year ago, with the likes of Willy Caballero, Angel Di Maria and Esteban Cambiasso among others moving to English clubs.

Some of those moves turned out to be more successful than others, but with Argentina having long been seen as one of the world's biggest exporters of footballing talent, it seemed Argentine players had finally reached critical mass in the Premier League.

This season, no English club has more enthusiastically embraced the idea of an Argentine contingent than Manchester City. The signing of Nicolas Otamendi from Valencia and the return from loan of Bruno Zuculini pushes the tally up to six. Sergio Aguero's change of shirt means City can now even boast that most coveted of performers, an Argentine No. 10.

Why the sudden spike in numbers of Argentines at City? In truth, it goes beyond one club. Di Maria has moved on but two of Aguero and Zabaleta's Argentina teammates are a short drive across town at Manchester United (Marcos Rojo and Sergio Romero), while Crystal Palace, QPR, Southampton, Swansea City, Tottenham, West Brom and West Ham United all have Argentines in their first team squads. That's half of the top flight.

These increasing numbers of Argentines in England are down to the increasing numbers of Argentines in the world game. A widely cited 2010 report said Argentina had overtaken Brazil for the number of footballers plying their trade overseas and the boom seems to have continued.

It makes sense that eventually, a number of those exports would make their way to the league which sits at the top of the game's financial tree -- particularly bearing in mind that not only are Argentines found in large numbers in foreign leagues, they're also frequently among the top performers. City's new signing Otamendi was named in La Liga's Best XI of last season, for example.

Clearly, some players arrive by more roundabout routes -- Southampton's third-choice goalkeeper Paulo Gazzaniga never played in his homeland, or for that matter Valencia's first team, and spent a season with Gillingham before being picked up by Southampton. Leicester's Leonardo Ulloa made more of a dent in the Primera but has hit it big at his current club.

By and large, though, Argentines are arriving in England in greater numbers because they're impressing elsewhere and the sheer weight of numbers means they're more visible than ever. There's a clear knock-on effect helped by increased perception of their ability, too.

Everton are set to sign Ramiro Funes Mori in part because other Argentine defenders have gone to Europe recently and looked good. He's a player they feel they can get "at the ground floor," so to speak.

If a player like Funes Mori goes to Benfica or Porto, for instance, for the kind of fee Everton will pay for him (around $8 million), and does well, he could move on for far more than that in a few years.

At that stage, Everton would probably be priced out. Here, they're taking on the risk that he might not turn out to be good enough for them. It's certainly a deal that carries that risk, though having lived in the United States for a while, he speaks English already which will help him adapt.

In many ways, the Premier League's new television deal has created this situation, in which clubs of Everton's hitherto more constrained means are going to be more able to compete with regular title-winners in other leagues. If Funes Mori does well in England, other English sides might go down a similar route and choose to go straight to the source. Some already have. Again, let's return to Manchester City and consider Zuculini.

He is the younger of two brothers who came up through Racing's youth sides. He didn't impress too much for first Valencia and then Cordoba last season, but at only 22 and having been signed for around $2m, he's a very low risk.

Given the financial disparity between the economically booming Premier League and an impoverished Argentine league which nonetheless has a long track record for churning out talent, it's not hard to see why English clubs find Argentina a tempting shopping destination.

City are in the vanguard of the Argentine surge in the Premier League, but expect others to join them.

Whether it is financial big-hitters buying established stars or sides further down the table looking to help players become established, Argentines will feature prominently.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 22, 2015, 01:21:44 AM
View Shaka Hislop being put on the spot regarding whether City or Chelsea ultimately prevail in the Prem
http://www.espnfc.com/video/espn-fc-tv/86/video/2573034/hislop-i-think-city-are-the-better-squad
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 22, 2015, 01:53:33 AM
(http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/MobileSwitcher/v2/images/1626-14397532721871461939.svg)
David Silva's touches during Manchester City's 3-0 defeat of defending champs, Chelsea, on match day 2.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 22, 2015, 02:05:33 AM
Saturday, August 22nd, 2015
Manchester United v Newcastle United @ 7:45 TT time
Crystal Palace v Aston Villa @ 10:00
Leicester City v Tottenham Hotspur
Norwich City v Stoke City
Sunderland v Swansea City
West Ham v Bournemouth

Sunday, August 23
West Bromwich Albion v Chelsea @ 8:30
Everton v Manchester City @ 11:00
Watford v Southampton

Monday, August 24
Arsenal v Liverpool @ 15:00

Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 23, 2015, 08:00:25 AM
Even if Chelsea leaves West Brom with 3 points, piercing questions still have to be asked of them.

It's good to see Rondón having an influence in this game. His acquisition by WBA raised an eyebrow bc it's wasn't (and still isn't) clear how compatible he is with Pulis, but I hope he makes solid progress in the Prem.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 23, 2015, 08:14:25 AM
Even if Chelsea leaves West Brom with 3 points, piercing questions still have to be asked of them.

It's good to see Rondón having an influence in this game. His acquisition by WBA raised an eyebrow bc it's wasn't (and still isn't) clear how compatible he is with Pulis, but I hope he makes solid progress in the Prem.

Crystal Palace/West Brom Pulis is not Stoke Pulis.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 24, 2015, 02:51:45 PM
Even if Chelsea leaves West Brom with 3 points, piercing questions still have to be asked of them.

It's good to see Rondón having an influence in this game. His acquisition by WBA raised an eyebrow bc it's wasn't (and still isn't) clear how compatible he is with Pulis, but I hope he makes solid progress in the Prem.

Crystal Palace/West Brom Pulis is not Stoke Pulis.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Football supporter on August 24, 2015, 03:49:14 PM
(http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/MobileSwitcher/v2/images/1626-14397532721871461939.svg)
David Silva's touches during Manchester City's 3-0 defeat of defending champs, Chelsea, on match day 2.

I wish we could record the same movement for Pro League players. It would be a fantastic coaching tool. You'd be amazed how players think they played compared to how they actually played!
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 24, 2015, 06:16:09 PM
So FS, why can't you get a recording of the Chelsea-Man. City and edit it yourself. Or pay someone to do it.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 24, 2015, 06:20:36 PM
By the way, Arsenal Liverpool was a very entertaining game. Could have gone any way. Pool has a young left back called Gomez. I wonder if he is of Trini parentage. Good player.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on August 24, 2015, 07:15:59 PM
Pool has a young left back called Gomez. I wonder if he is of Trini parentage.
Don't matter.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 29, 2015, 06:19:24 AM
Is Alexis Sánchez Arsenal's best dead ball kicker?  His consistency on the training ground must be more productive than in matches. I think Cazorla is losing out.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 29, 2015, 06:36:59 AM
Pool has a young left back called Gomez. I wonder if he is of Trini parentage.
Don't matter.

And Why?
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 29, 2015, 09:01:53 AM
Imagine West Ham @ the half have 2 goals from 29% possession, more shots than Pool and and an even # of corners.
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Post by: Deeks on August 29, 2015, 09:10:03 AM
Imagine West Ham @ the half have 2 goals from 29% possession, more shots than Pool and and an even # of corners.

Was surprised at the score. Was expecting 'Pool to take it to WH at home, after seeing their performance at Arsenal on Monday.
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Post by: lefty on August 29, 2015, 09:34:04 AM
Like Chelsea still on vacation
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 29, 2015, 09:39:46 AM
Like Chelsea still on vacation

Lol. Just as Falcao rescued Mourinho, Bolassie slaps him in the face with that cross.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on August 29, 2015, 09:50:26 AM
Steups can't even see it live......even though I really eh want to ah Chelsea loss......all mih PC dem  down at d same time and mobile eh supported by any a dem stream site.......flash nah
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 29, 2015, 10:00:36 AM
Last year Chelsea bolted out of the block and people ketch  they nenen to catch them. This year, teams not allowing that at all.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 29, 2015, 10:03:48 AM
Meanwhile City has the baton.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 29, 2015, 10:28:47 AM
Meanwhile City has the baton.

We'll see.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 29, 2015, 03:33:30 PM
Imagine West Ham @ the half have 2 goals from 29% possession, more shots than Pool and and an even # of corners.

Was surprised at the score. Was expecting 'Pool to take it to WH at home, after seeing their performance at Arsenal on Monday.

Missed that game on Monday.

The Hammers scored 3 goals from 5 shots on target with 37% possession. Liverpool had 13 shots with only 1 "unproductively" on target. Dahis a shot more than WH's shot total. Corners: Pool had 5, WH had 7. Again, 7 corners from 37% possession. Take that and run!

Good call by Sterling to flash.

Arsenal had 22 shots today with 74% possession and converted 1. Rodgers would have been happy to occupy Wenger's body today. Or maybe Wenger occupied his.  :devil:
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 31, 2015, 11:45:57 AM
De Bruyne transfer shows the new power of the pound in football
Deutsche Welle


It was a long time in the making, and it will have a ripple effect for a long time to come. DW's Jefferson Chase examines how Kevin de Bruyne's transfer - and the money behind it - unsettles the Bundesliga.

Earlier this year, when the English Premier League signed a new television rights deal worth somewhere between 7 and 9.5 billion euros, the ramifications for the entire football world weren't immediately apparent. With the completion of Kevin de Bruyne's transfer to Manchester City, it's become clear that the EPL's windfall is going to affect clubs everywhere - and not necessarily always in a positive sense.

Wolfsburg and Man City aren't talking about the 24-year-old Belgian playmaker's official price tag, but it's rumored to be around 74 million euros. In any case, it's a huge cupcake of money with more money for frosting and money on top instead of a cherry. Wolfsburg will be spending some of that sum in an attempt to compensate for the loss of the Bundesliga's player of the year last season and all-time assists record holder.

They've already brought in defender Dante and as of this writing they're reportedly closing on in Schalke's Julian Draxler as well - which means that the Royal Blues may have a somewhat smaller pile of money that they'll spend on luring players away from putatively lesser clubs, who will then spend that money and so on and so forth.

That doesn't initially sound like a problem until you consider that the sums teams are going to have to fork out for players are exploding as well, driven by building Premier League wallets. A club like Tottenham Hotspur, which finished sixth in England's top division last season, are able to splash 30 million euros to lure Heung-Min Son away from Champions League participants Bayer Leverkusen. Even a club like Leicester City doesn't need to think twice about handing over eight million to Mainz for Shinji Okazaki.

To put things in perspective, under the Bundesliga's current TV deal, Bayern Munich will receive around 50 million euros - or a little over half of one of our new currency unit, the de Bruyne. The team that finishes last in the Premier League gets around 133 million or a little less than one-and-a half de Bruynes.

Bayern Munich are traditionally one of the richest clubs in the world. Former club potentate Uli Hoeness loved to brag that the team had 350 million euros (around four de Bruynes) stashed away in its savings account. Suddenly that doesn't sound like all that much.

As a team that ran in the black and had no need for Russian oligarchs or Arab oil sheikhs, Bayern looked set to be one of the big winners as the Financial Fair Play rules were phased in. The English windfall makes that scenario seem unlikely. Manchester City didn't need oil-money subsidies to pry de Bruyne away from Wolfsburg. So the new English TV deal means that the Citizens no longer have to worry about falling afoul of FFP regulations in the near future.

The Premier League's windfall represents the start of one of the quantum leaps that happen ever so often and send ripples throughout football - comparable to Giuseppe Savoldi becoming the first million pound player in 1969 or the Bosman ruling of 1995. The playing field may well become somewhat more level when the German Football League negotiates a new deal for the TV rights to the Bundesliga in the 2017-18 season.

But until then expect the sort of unusually frenetic Bundesliga transfer period we're witnessing right now, with players of various calibers transferring to and fro - for a whole lot of de Bruynes.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Flex on September 07, 2015, 08:13:20 AM
Upcoming Games.

Saturday, September 12 (EST)

Everton v Chelsea (07:45)

Arsenal v Stoke City (10:00)

Crystal Palace v Manchester City (10:00)

Norwich City v AFC Bournemouth (10:00)

Watford v Swansea City (10:00)

West Bromwich Albion v Southampton (10:00)

Manchester United v Liverpool (12:30)

Sunday, September 13 (EST)

Sunderland v Tottenham Hotspur (08:30)

Leicester City v Aston Villa (11:00)

Monday, September 14 (EST)

West Ham United v Newcastle United (15:00)

Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 11, 2015, 07:40:55 PM
Preview of Manchester United v Liverpool
Jamie Jackson, (The Guardian).


(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/9/11/1441984730833/ef3aafd9-ddaa-483b-bc1b-44fc8a30cbd5-653x720.png?w=620&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=5e2f4ceff22b35dd35762f857fd4c6d7)

David de Gea has signed a new four-year deal and Louis van Gaal has admitted Wayne Rooney and Michael Carrick (bravely) informed him the dressing room is “flat”. The latest seismic week at Manchester United ends with the visit of Liverpool. These firmest of enemies each have seven points and would love to end Saturday’s late game with three more and bragging rights for their supporters. Last season, Van Gaal’s team gave Liverpool a 3-0 schooling in the corresponding fixture. This time it may be closer.

Referee: Michael Oliver (This season G4, Y20, R3, 5.75 cards per game).

Manchester Utd Subs: from Romero, Johnstone, Lingard, McNair, Rojo, Carrick, Young, Fellaini, Martial

Doubtful: None
Injured: Jones (leg, 19 Sep)
Suspended: None
Form: WWDL
Discipline: Y8 R0
Leading scorer: Mata 1

Liverpool Subs: from Sturridge, Bogdan, Henderson, Lallana, Ibe, Touré, Sakho, Moreno, Teixeira, Origi, Rossiter
Doubtful: Henderson (foot), Lallana (thigh), Sturridge (thigh),
Injured: Allen (hamstring, 19 Sep) Flanagan (knee, Dec)
Suspended: Coutinho (one match)
Form: WWDL
Discipline: Y13 R1
Leading scorers: Benteke, Coutinho 1
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 11, 2015, 07:49:07 PM
Preview of Everton v Chelsea
By Andy Hunter (The Guardian).


(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/9/11/1441984916883/101ec0ef-99cf-4b49-9d57-232ddbdef3df-652x720.png?w=620&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=b9091e3e672117ef69f94c5954e9deef)

The focus will be on John Stones but not at the end of the game should Chelsea falter once more. The reigning champions are eight points adrift of Manchester City with four games gone and are still searching for the confidence, form and power that contributed to a 6-3 win here early last season. Everton’s injury problems at left-back, where the new £9.5m signing Ramiro Funes Mori may have to make his debut out of position, could be exploited.

Referee: A Marriner (This season G2, Y9, R1, 5.0 cards per game).

Everton Subs: from Funes Mori, Lennon, Robles, Browning, Osman, Oviedo, Deulofeu, Naismith, Besic, McGeady, Gibson
Doubtful Oviedo (knee)
Injured: Cleverley (ankle, Oct), Baines (ankle, Dec), Hibbert (knee, Dec), Pienaar (hamstring)
Suspended: None
Form: DWLD
Discipline: Y4 R0
Leading scorers: Barkley, Lukaku 2

Chelsea Subs: from Blackman, Beeney, Rahman, Zouma, Aina, Djilobodji, Mikel, Ramires, Loftus-Cheek, Traoré, Falcao, Kenedy, Rémy
Doubtful: Ramires (knee)
Injured: Courtois (knee, Dec), Oscar (knee, 16 Sep)
Suspended: None
Form: DLWL
Discipline: Y5 R2
Leading scorer: Five players 1
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 11, 2015, 08:06:50 PM
Preview of Crystal Palace v Manchester City
By Dominic Fifield, (The Guardian).


(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/9/11/1441986188899/062d7b91-249f-4699-a1f2-71d5e6f4346c-650x720.png?w=620&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=f33503639769be5f0e532ad44ac84d60)

Last season Crystal Palace 2 Man City 1

Referee: M Jones (This season G3, Y12, R1, 4.33 cards per game).

Crystal Palace Subs: from Speroni, Hennessey, Mariappa, Hangeland, Lee, Ledley, Jedinak, Kaikai, Zaha, Gayle, Mutch, Wickham, Campbell
Doubtful: Jedinak (hamstring), Wickham (calf), Campbell (hamstring), Ledley (hamstring)
Injured: Ward (knee, 17 Oct), Chamakh (groin, Dec) Suspended None
Form: WLWW Discipline Y5 R0
Leading scorers: Sako, Ward 2

Manchester City Subs: from Caballero, Wright, Demichelis, Bony, Nasri, Roberts, Zuculini, Iheanacho
Doubtful: None
Injured: Zabaleta (knee, 19 Sept), Clichy (ankle, Oct), Fernando (groin, 19 Sept), Delph (hamstring, Nov), Silva (ankle, 19 Sept)
Suspended: None
Form: WWWW
Discipline: Y9 R0
Leading scorers: Fernandinho, Kompany 2
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2015, 06:03:45 AM
Preview of Everton v Chelsea
By Andy Hunter (The Guardian).


(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/9/11/1441984916883/101ec0ef-99cf-4b49-9d57-232ddbdef3df-652x720.png?w=620&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=b9091e3e672117ef69f94c5954e9deef)


Chelsea: No Cahill. Matic and Mikel pairing. Fabregas rather than Willian.

Everton: No Mirallas. McCarthy instead. (However, Naismith in before 10' for Besic).
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2015, 06:08:49 AM
And as often happens when subs end up on the field unexpectedly, Naismith scores an Everton goal that would have made Andy Gray proud.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2015, 06:10:39 AM
Like Besic knows what he was doing.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2015, 08:20:46 AM
Preview of Crystal Palace v Manchester City
By Dominic Fifield, (The Guardian).


(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/9/11/1441986188899/062d7b91-249f-4699-a1f2-71d5e6f4346c-650x720.png?w=620&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=f33503639769be5f0e532ad44ac84d60)

Palace: No Bamford?

City: Nasri in. No Sterling. No De Bruyne. Bony on.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on September 12, 2015, 08:31:12 AM
Watching Man City and CP. Aguero out with  a knee problem.  He is replaced with a 54 million pound sub. Wow the top five teams have all these players. When one man goes down they are with an equally impressive player. So much for accusations of stock piling.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Sam on September 12, 2015, 09:05:13 AM
Mourinho done, his style not helping Chelsea.

Hazard playing real tutu since de season start.

Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2015, 09:13:12 AM
Great to see a club with Palace's legacy,  going toe to toe with City. Just seeing de old school dread in de stands was heartwarming.

Deeks, ent Palace is a kind of "community team" with an intimate ground that you could vibe?
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2015, 09:16:42 AM
Poor Navas! He needed a lil David Accam on that finish rather than ah El Niño Torres mishap.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2015, 10:14:06 AM
Preview of Manchester United v Liverpool
Jamie Jackson, (The Guardian).


(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/9/11/1441984730833/ef3aafd9-ddaa-483b-bc1b-44fc8a30cbd5-653x720.png?w=620&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=5e2f4ceff22b35dd35762f857fd4c6d7)

Man Utd: No Rooney. Fellaini. Going 4-2-3-1. Romero on the bench, De Gea gets the nod. No Schneiderlin. Carrick in.

Liverpool: Going 4-4-2. Ings with Benteke.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on September 12, 2015, 10:35:06 AM
Great to see a club with Palace's legacy,  going toe to toe with City. Just seeing de old school dread in de stands was heartwarming.

Deeks, ent Palace is a kind of "community team" with an intimate ground that you could vibe?

Breds, football can be cruel sometimes. Palace played great football to earn at least a point. But they had to play to the final whistle. It was a real good game. If palace can play away from home like that and get a couple wins or a point, then other teams in trouble. Congrats to City.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on September 12, 2015, 12:13:35 PM
What a cooking goal by Bentike!!!
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Post by: Deeks on September 12, 2015, 12:14:12 PM
What a sweet goal by Martial.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: grimm01 on September 12, 2015, 12:17:32 PM
What are the chances of Brendan  keeping his job thru next summer?
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Post by: boss on September 12, 2015, 12:34:01 PM
What are the chances of Brendan  keeping his job thru next summer Christmas?
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Post by: Bitter on September 13, 2015, 11:00:34 AM
Hell of a game between Villa and Leicester.

Right now, if I had to pick a home game to attend in the BPL, it would be at Leicester, they are having a good time.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Flex on September 13, 2015, 11:03:26 AM
We could do with a player like Riyad Mahrez.

 ;D

Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Flex on September 14, 2015, 06:54:53 PM
3 defender at once, broken ankles.

https://www.youtube.com/v/nVHkv-2Va5c
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Post by: Deeks on September 19, 2015, 10:38:08 AM
Moses just surprised Man. City with a brilliant shot from about 20 yards. 1-0 West Ham.
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Post by: Bitter on September 26, 2015, 07:23:11 AM
City was all over Spurs, then they concede and now is a 180 degree turnaround.
Leicester for the title?
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 04, 2015, 08:31:27 PM
Well, there it is: the Fenway boss call de shot. Prepare for Klopp. He thinks Dortmund and Liverpool have several things in common. Ah not buying Ancelotti at Liverpool, but maybe that's what's selling. Or, maybe he could repeat at Chelsea? Either way, Wenger safe. He could even linger beyond van Gaal's departure. :devil:
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 05, 2015, 06:24:41 AM
Wenger is a Teflon coach.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 08, 2015, 01:32:05 PM
Welcome Klopp to the Kop!  :applause:
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Mose on October 08, 2015, 03:14:04 PM
Well, there it is: the Fenway boss call de shot. Prepare for Klopp. He thinks Dortmund and Liverpool have several things in common. Ah not buying Ancelotti at Liverpool, but maybe that's what's selling. Or, maybe he could repeat at Chelsea? Either way, Wenger safe. He could even will linger beyond van Gaal's departure. :devil:


Fixed it for you.  ;D
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 09, 2015, 01:53:25 PM
Well, there it is: the Fenway boss call de shot. Prepare for Klopp. He thinks Dortmund and Liverpool have several things in common. Ah not buying Ancelotti at Liverpool, but maybe that's what's selling. Or, maybe he could repeat at Chelsea? Either way, Wenger safe. He could even will linger beyond van Gaal's departure. :devil:


Fixed it for you.  ;D

Well, we only hope ... since van Gaal announced a retirement date. :)
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Post by: asylumseeker on October 09, 2015, 01:57:23 PM
Klopp's press conference was sober and hilarious at the same time. Says if you want, call me "the normal one". Also told the English press "I heard a lot about you before I came here. Prove to me that they (his sources) are liars." :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 14, 2015, 08:50:16 AM
WATCH: Clip of Shaka Hislop interview with Alex Ferguson

http://www.espnfc.com/manchester-united/story/2660657/ferguson-says-rooney-can-find-form-in-open-premier-league
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 19, 2015, 01:21:29 PM
More high scoring matches this term than in recent seasons? Just this weekend City v Bournemouth and Newcastle v Norwich. Not to mention the very same City v the very same Newcastle. Plus Spurs demolished City a few weeks back. Will we witness a goal-record season? 
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 24, 2015, 07:50:31 PM
Chelsea back to losing ways - despite having more possession (55/45) and considerably more passes. In all of that the Hammers only suffered 1 yellow card to the Bridge's cynical 6. Back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: injunchile on October 25, 2015, 03:50:07 AM
In football you need a little luck. Yesterday was one of those days when the dice would not roll for Chelsea. The Off side call and the ball not fully going over the line Trust me Chelsea will be in the top four by season end.
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Post by: lefty on October 25, 2015, 05:42:50 AM
Me eh know nah, Chelsea seemed suddenly impotent since preseason, and then the d Eva episode somehow gave me a premonition that this would not be a good year for Chelsea.......similar to when d Russian did fire Ray Wilkins.
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Post by: Deeks on October 25, 2015, 06:55:39 AM
It is a combinations of many things happening. They are the champions and everybody wants to wear their crown. Unlike last year when they won about  8 straight, all teams are ready for them this time around. They were unlucky to lose some of these games this year. But last year they were lucky to win some of their games too. Some injuries. But every team has that.

 I really want to see if he will last out the season. You know when things appear to be a on a downward trend, JM does walk. Let's see if he is " man enough" to stay the course. But all of this is mere speculation that Russian will fire him. If they can't accept the "downs" in football, then they should not be into it.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 26, 2015, 09:28:12 AM
It is a combinations of many things happening. They are the champions and everybody wants to wear their crown. Unlike last year when they won about  8 straight, all teams are ready for them this time around. They were unlucky to lose some of these games this year. But last year they were lucky to win some of their games too. Some injuries. But every team has that.

 I really want to see if he will last out the season. You know when things appear to be a on a downward trend, JM does walk. Let's see if he is " man enough" to stay the course. But all of this is mere speculation that Russian will fire him. If they can't accept the "downs" in football, then they should not be into it.

It have things going on behind the scenes.  Jose had positions he wanted upgraded and the board play the ass thinking we could rally with pretty much the same squad.  Jose said it only once in an interview earlier in the season that his report was in since April.  The fact that we were in the market on deadline day is a telling sign of something not being right.  Only time we does be in there on deadline day is when we swooping in to take away a player from landing at another team.  Branna losing his form was a process that began since last season but without a player completely ready to own his or the opposite flank, he is indeed the (and I say this cringing) best choice.  The fact that Hazard cannot yet find his elite level form, Fabregas exposure in defense (not surprising he was never a defender was he?) Matic like a chicken with head cut off trying to cover for Branna, Fabs, and defensive holes left at times by the middle defenders means he too (Matic) has been off.  We have a bunch of forwards allergic to scoring goals and most importantly don't seem to have any more of those locker room glue type leaders that we have been spoiled with over the years.  Imagine we've had Drobga, Lampard, Alex, Ballack, Anelka, Eto'o and more in the last decade.  Any of them would have been able to inspire more confidence than the dregs that remain in the tank now.  Despite all this I hope Jose stays.  The knee-jerk instability of modern day football never helps anything in the long term.  Most does talk shit about Arsenal but despite not winning the league in more than a decade their fans are pretty much assured with Wenger at the helm that they will see CL football and will play attractively.  Jose takes well earned criticisms for his pragmatic approach but as evidenced early last season if things are working he can manage an attractive brand.  It hard to watch the team struggle like this but I eh holding yesterdays loss against them.  So far the Hammers have been a giant slayer and right now we eh no giants until we wake up.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 28, 2015, 03:14:08 PM
More high scoring matches this term than in recent seasons? Just this weekend City v Bournemouth and Newcastle v Norwich. Not to mention the very same City v the very same Newcastle. Plus Spurs demolished City a few weeks back. Will we witness a goal-record season? 

And again with Spurs' punishment of Bournemouth on Sunday.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 29, 2015, 08:16:08 AM
Is the Premier League the world’s most exciting? Not this season
By Paul Wilson, The Guardian


Roberto Martínez described Everton’s laboured win against Norwich in midweek as a fantastic cup tie, the sort anyone would want to pay to see, but the relentlessly positive manager was probably in a minority of one with that opinion.

Everton were jeered off at half-time – that’s how fantastic it was – and during a particularly tedious opening half-hour when spectators were practically poking each other with sharp objects in order to stay awake someone ventured the opinion that this was shaping up to be the most tedious Premier League season for some time.

Yes, of course it was a Capital One Cup tie, and as such exempt from general criticism of the Premier League. Managers make so many changes these days, and have so little desire to go all the way in that particular competition, that it is hard to believe any result counts as a shock, whether it is the holders going out at Stoke City, Arsenal coming a cropper at Sheffield Wednesday or Manchester United being beaten by Middlesbrough. If a team have pressing concerns in the league or the Champions League, and Arsenal, Chelsea and United certainly have those at the moment, Capital One obligations usually become an early casualty.

Back to Everton, though, because it was the dullness of the fare in a meeting of two Premier League sides that stood out. It was like the Manchester derby all over again, except no one apart from Gary Neville would care for the Manchester derby all over again. The wider point is that a quarter of the way into the Premier League fixture list, the top flight of English football is still waiting for take-off. Can you name any thrilling games? Great performances? Memorable European nights? It just does not seem to be happening yet, unless we are going to count Sergio Agüero’s five goals in 23 minutes against hapless Newcastle or Arsenal finally getting their European campaign going in the nick of time.

OK, fair enough, Leicester City and Jamie Vardy are a good story and they have been involved in some exciting comebacks to keep their run of results going. But does a team such as Leicester threatening the European positions indicate a healthy level of competition within the Premier League, or is it a sign that everyone else’s standards have fallen? One could almost say the same about Arsenal topping the league last week. Does this finally mean that Arsène Wenger has been on the right track all along and is now poised to make a serious challenge for the title, or are Arsenal where they are because Chelsea and Manchester United have disappointed this season?

Chelsea have been the big no-show at the Premier League party, and while that is arguably no great loss on the entertainment front, the inability of José Mourinho and his squad to keep up the expected standards implies a loss of quality at the top end of the table. Chelsea have traditionally been hard to beat and a model of consistency. With Manchester United in slow decline for the past few years and Manchester City blowing hot and cold, Chelsea have generally represented a benchmark for English quality, the one club you could always rely on to have an interest in the title and put up a respectable performance in Europe.

Take that away and it becomes harder to judge the rest. United, it is fair to say, are not leaping ahead with football of the future under Louis van Gaal. They have slowed down their game, cut out the risks and become more predictable, and so has Wayne Rooney. Anthony Martial, surely signed as an attacking spearhead, has found himself shunted to the wing to allow his captain an extraordinarily generous amount of time to find his form in the middle, while Memphis Depay, not quite as dashing and adventurous a signing as was first billed, has found himself out of the side.

Van Gaal tinkers as if he has one or two more “transitional” seasons before things start to get serious, and at this rate could still be talking of potential rather than achievement when his time at Old Trafford is up.

City, in contrast, know exactly how they want to play but have been unlucky with injuries, as has happened in the past. They have built their system around David Silva and Agüero, and inevitably suffer when both are absent at the same time. Manuel Pellegrini’s side at least have the potential to excite. When everyone is fit they can offer football of the highest quality, but even the most optimistic City supporters are becoming resigned to the fact that Agüero, in particular, rarely completes a full season.

On the injury front, however, no one has it as bad as Liverpool, where even the arrival of Jürgen Klopp has had to take a back seat to the almost daily bulletins of bad news from the treatment room. Klopp might come good in the end – with the limited resources he is working with at present it is too early to tell – though what can be said with certainty is that it will be a while before Liverpool are back in the sort of entertainment business that flourished all too briefly under Brendan Rodgers.
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Liverpool are at Chelsea on Saturday, normally a fixture filled with excitement and possibility, yet Mourinho and Klopp are so short of wins it could easily turn out to be another cautious arm wrestle along the lines of the Manchester derby. If you had been told a couple of years ago that Mourinho and Klopp would soon be facing each other in the Premier League the prospect would have appealed, yet the present reality is more mundane and compromised than might initially have been imagined.

Rather too much of the Premier League is currently like that. West Ham and Crystal Palace supporters might be happy, but taking an overall view this is not shaping up to be a classic season. It has long been said that while the absolute quality might be elsewhere, the Premier League can always be relied upon for entertainment and drama on the pitch. Someone had better have a word, in that case, with most of the title contenders. And Chelsea.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 30, 2015, 02:47:34 PM
Klopp's press conference was sober and hilarious at the same time. Says if you want, call me "the normal one". Also told the English press "I heard a lot about you before I came here. Prove to me that they (his sources) are liars." :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Q: Did Jurgen Klopp make you laugh when he called himself 'the Normal One'? (Which he didn't really as Mourinho didn't call himself The Special One all those years ago)

Mourinho: "Why should I laugh?”

Comment from October 30, 2015 press conference.

On Liverpool and Klopp

"He is not someone I know well because in football you do not have friends but he is someone I like.

"They were a good team and they are a good team. They had a good manager and have a new very good manager. Everything is the same. He changed some details obviously in their tactical approach to matches but this is the nature of the game especially when you are speaking about two top managers.

"When you change a top one to another top one the level is high."
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 31, 2015, 07:48:46 AM
Pretty sure Mourinho will be asking where the extra seconds came from for Liverpool's equalizer. Nevertheless, good end to the half from a neutral viewpoint.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 31, 2015, 04:56:12 PM
@ post-match presser Mourinho said "nothing" but said everything. Plus, before that, in the dregs of the match, his face said everything also.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on November 01, 2015, 09:53:28 AM
More high scoring matches this term than in recent seasons? Just this weekend City v Bournemouth and Newcastle v Norwich. Not to mention the very same City v the very same Newcastle. Plus Spurs demolished City a few weeks back. Will we witness a goal-record season? 

And again with Spurs' punishment of Bournemouth on Sunday.

And now Everton 6 Sunderland 2.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on November 07, 2015, 04:29:37 AM
Chelsea’s José Mourinho will not appeal against one-match stadium ban
The Guardian


• Mourinho will be absent for Saturday’s match against Stoke
• ‘I think it’s stupid to fight a fight you know you already lose’


José Mourinho has opted not to appeal against a one-match stadium ban and will be absent as Chelsea confront Stoke City on Saturday, but has stressed he will retain “every responsibility” for the way in which his players perform.

The Portuguese suggested he might simply remain on the team bus when the Premier League champions arrive at the Britannia stadium, or “sit on a street corner”, and watch the game on his iPad having gone through various scenarios to prepare his assistants, Rui Faria and Steve Holland, who will direct affairs from the dugout.

Mourinho was sent to the stands at West Ham after refusing to leave the referee’s room at the interval where he had been questioning the dismissals of Nemanja Matic and his assistant Silvino Louro. The 52-year-old is now not permitted at the ground on match day and, while the Football Association has indicated it will not police him during the game with the ban effectively designed to keep him away from the match officials, he is technically not allowed to contact his staff at any point until after the final whistle.

“I travel with the team and will be with them until the moment somebody stops me, which is, I think, when I am in the limit of the compound of the stadium,” said Mourinho. “We know when I have to stop. I don’t know (where I will watch the game). I have no plans. Maybe I sit on the street corner with my iPad. I don’t know. Maybe I don’t even watch the game. I can’t contact my staff during the game. Why? Maybe Twitter, Livescore. I don’t know.”

Asked who would be in charge of changes during the game, whether tactical tweaks or substitutions, he explained: “Me. I will be in charge. Every responsibility is my responsibility. My staff are completely free of that extra pressure. That doesn’t belong to their jobs. It’s my responsibility. If, after 10 minutes, we are playing with seven men, it’s something I didn’t prepare my assistants for. They’d have to decide themselves. But we tried to reduce (the decisions needed to be made).

“The game is unpredictable. We don’t know the direction it will go in many aspects, but we try to reduce them. That we did. The most incredible scenarios you can imagine (we prepared). Let’s go to extremes: at half-time winning or losing 4-0.

“In between this, you have 1,000 options: be dominating and controlling the game; being dominated and not controlling the game; having problems with this or that area; injuries or red cards of the goalkeeper, the right-back, the centre-half, the striker, the winger. We went through all these different scenarios. They are prepared. But what is also important is for them to feel protected by the fact that it’s my responsibility. It’s just for the players to play, and for the assistants to be with them and supportive with them.”

Mourinho, who is the first Premier League manager to suffer a stadium ban since Alan Pardew head-butted Hull’s David Meyler while in charge of Newcastle in January 2014, suggested there had been no point appealing the disciplinary commission’s decision to suspend him “because it’s stupid to fight a fight you know already you’ll lose”. He fears the sanction has now set a precedent in terms of language used by managers towards the officials.

“Well, you can imagine that is not easy,” he added, when asked how difficult the experience will be. “You can imagine how I feel. And I don’t want to speak a lot about it because, to speak about it, I have to go deeper. I have to go to the dimension of the situation. One thing is not to be on the bench. Because, against West Ham, the referee told me not to be on the bench in the second half. But nobody told me to leave the stadium.

“At this moment, I am stopped not just to do my work, but from going to a football stadium and being at something I like so much. Football. If I go to the dimension of the punishment, I think it opens a range of situations and options that I can imagine, in the future, we are going to have lots of managers with stadium bans because a stadium ban should relate to something really, really serious in terms of aggression.

“This stadium ban is connected to words. To complaints. So, I imagine, in this moment it’s open, in the future, for the stadium ban to happen many more times. But I know the situation where I am in relation to the football power in this country, and I have to adapt. I have to adapt to it.”
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on November 07, 2015, 04:58:18 AM
North London Derby

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Victory in the north London derby would be an ideal way for Arsenal to get over their midweek humiliation in the Champions League and reassert their title-wining credentials but they will have to excel to achieve such a result. Tottenham arrive in fine form and bolstered by the return of Son Heung-min, while Arsenal’s injury list remains long with seven players definitely out and three more doubtful. Paul Doyle

Venue Emirates Stadium
Last season Arsenal 1 Tottenham Hotspur 1
Referee Martin Atkinson
This season G10, Y46, R0, 4.60 cards per game

Arsenal

Subs: from Macey, Ospina, Chambers, Gibbs, Gabriel, Flamini, Arteta, Iwobi
Doubtful: Arteta (ankle), Koscielny (hip), Ospina (shoulder)
Injured: Bellerín (groin, 21 Nov), Ox-Chamberlain (hamstring, 21 Nov), Ramsey (hamstring, 21 Nov), Walcott (calf, Dec), Wilshere (fractured leg, Jan), Welbeck (knee, Feb)
Suspended: None
Form: LWWWWW
Discipline: Y13 R2
Leading scorers: Giroud, Sánchez 6

Tottenham Hotspur

Subs: Vorm, Trippier, Wimmer, Fazio, Davies, Carroll, Mason, Winks, Onomah, Son, Townsend, Bentaleb, N’Jie
Doubtful: Bentaleb (ankle), Townsend (club punishment)
Injured: Chadli (ankle, 28 Nov), Pritchard (ankle, Jan)
Suspended: None
Form: WWDDWW
Discipline: Y25 R0
Leading scorer: Kane 5

(Sourced from The Guardian, UK).

Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 21, 2015, 06:28:38 AM
Big clash today: Gunners v. City. Looking forward to it. Wenger had sensible things to say about Pelligrini in comments in anticipation of the match. Three points for Arsenal would mean some separation from City and some career irritation for Pellegrini.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 21, 2015, 03:42:18 PM
Yaya Toure just scored a beaut against MC. 2-1 in favour of the Gunners.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 21, 2015, 04:19:44 PM
Yaya Toure just scored a beaut against MC. 2-1 in favour of the Gunners.

Sublime, and from no where. He did what Navas should have done.

Is Navas a luxury baller? Put him in a T&T shirt doing some of the same things and he would be subject to critique abuse.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 21, 2015, 05:01:10 PM
City: 63% possession, 20 shots, 6 on target, 8 corners, 11 shots within the penalty area compared to Arsenal's 6 (but the Gunners had 5 on target from 8 total attempts).

I understand De Bruyne's confidence but I thought he was a step off in his fluidity with the ball and his decision-making in clutch moments.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 21, 2015, 11:19:24 PM
Watching Watford dismantle Liverpool took me back to when Watford was a First Division powerhouse. Wicked!!!
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 24, 2015, 12:24:34 AM
What is it that attracts US investors to the multi-million-pound EPL?
By David Conn, The Guardian


Everton have joined a long list of English clubs to be the subject of scrutiny by American investors

The news that Everton’s long, public search for investment is attracting interest from two US investors, following Crystal Palace’s sale of a 36% stake and Bournemouth a 25% shareholding, extends the incongruous spectacle of English football clubs becoming owned in a country still generally oblivious to soccer. When Malcolm Glazer and his six children started this historic change with their buy-up 10 years ago of that most storied of clubs, Manchester United, they declared that Joel Glazer was an “avid” fan.

Now that investors are checking out Everton following US purchases at Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa, Sunderland, Bournemouth and Palace – seven of the 20 current Premier League clubs – there is little effort to suggest the major motivator does not come down to money. The “EPL”, as the Premier League is known and marketed in the US – a key reason why the Football League is rebranding to the “EFL” - is booming and the latest £5.136bn paid by Sky and BT for the 2016‑19 UK live rights has alerted more potential buyers across the Atlantic.

Whereas Chelsea’s 2003 purchase by Roman Abramovich and the 2008 acquisition of Manchester City by Sheikh Mansour of Abu Dhabi seemed to signal English football clubs would be owned by billionaires as trophy assets, there are only so many sheikhs and oligarchs and they are anyway running their clubs to be break-even businesses. As clubs have been sold,, for a mix of reasons – English shareholders wanting to cash in, grounds and squads needing investment – principal interest has come from the US, where there are acquisitive financiers and a culture of buying sports teams as investments.

Here for a century, football’s stated culture, regulated by Football Association rules, was that shareholders and directors should be involved to serve clubs, not make money for themselves, but the FA surrendered that tradition from the 80s, just as the money was becoming huge.

Former English owners of these sporting havens, which we still call clubs, then made fortunes selling shares they held for decades. Martin Edwards and family banked £91m selling United and David Moores £90m for the heirloom of his Liverpool stake; Doug Ellis earned £20m for his Villa shares, with longstanding Arsenal owners greatly cashing in from selling to Stan Kroenke, with David Dein banking £75m from Alisher Usmanov.

The US owners’ aim is to replicate the medium-to-long term holding of US sports franchises, making money on the value of the clubs increasing, from TV, sponsorships, ticket prices and supporter-consumerism. Sports teams are cash businesses too, so owners can also make money as they go along; Arsenal now pay Kroenke’s company, KSE, £3m annually for services described as consultancy and advice.

The Glazers’ approach has famously been the most raw: they put up only £272m of their own money out of £790m paid for United, then loaded their £518m borrowings on to the club to repay. This leveraged takeover, orchestrated by Ed Woodward when he was at the merchant bank JP Morgan, has since cost the club more than £700m in interest and fees, and the debt is still £411m gross.

Woodward, since appointed by the family to run the actual football club, is still struggling with the post-Sir Alex Ferguson succession but the Glazers have made fortunes nevertheless. They made £75m selling shares when they re-registered the club in the Cayman Islands and floated it on the New York stock exchange in 2012, another $200m (£134m) from a sale in August 2014, then Edward Glazer made around £29m that December selling more. This year United announced an annual dividend which adds up to £15m a year for the family.

They remain the 90% owner of United, valued at $3.1bn in May by the US magazine Forbes, which said: “No team on the planet has figured out how to make money from its brand like the Red Devils.”

The increase in Premier League TV deals, incrementally growing awareness of soccer in the US, and the league’s cost controls aimed at stemming wages, have prompted the latest interest – yet further takeovers have been slow. The Bournemouth investment, whose details the club has not disclosed, and the Crystal Palace deal, in which 18% of new shares were issued each to Joshua Harris and David Blitzer for an initial £50m, according to Palace, were the first to complete since Shahid Khan bought Fulham in 2013. West Bromwich Albion, Villa and Everton have been publicly for sale, and others open to offers, yet not concluded deals.

Some involved say a key deterrent is relegation, the time-honoured basis of the football pyramid which does not exist in US sports. Khan, relegated with Fulham, Randy Lerner with Villa and Ellis Short at Sunderland, both struggling despite spending millions, are cautionary precedents.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 24, 2015, 12:39:59 AM
Jordanian billionaire Hasan Abdullah Ismaik considering buying Premier League or Championship club
By Jason Burt, Chief Football Correspondent, The Telegraph


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A Jordanian billionaire is considering buying a club in the Premier League or Championship. Hasan Abdullah Ismaik told Telegraph Sport that football in England was “incredible” and that he was actively looking at a number of options.

Ismaik is currently the majority shareholder of the German club 1860 Munich but has grown frustrated by the rules which, he said, prevent him from assuming full control and investing the way he wants to gain promotion to the Bundesliga.

“The difficulties we are facing in Germany means we are kind of regretting not coming to the UK and makes us think that we should now come and buy a club here and invest in a country where the football is so entertaining and so passionate,” Ismaik explained.

Regarded as the third youngest billionaire in the Middle East at just 39, Ismaik acquired a 60 per cent stake in 1860 Munich in 2011 - when he also looked at buying into English football – but despite being the chairman and pumping money in, in the form of loans, he cannot launch a complete takeover because of the statutes of the DFL (German football league) and its 50+1 rule.

It means that Ismaik, who became the first Arabic chairman in German football, can only have a maximum of 49 per cent of the voting rights with the other rights held by other shareholders and elected supporters.

1860 Munich are the second club in the German city, after Bayern Munich, of course, and also play at the Allianz Arena although they sold their stake in the stadium before Ismaik’s involvement.

They are in the German second division with Ismaik frustrated that they have not gained promotion and believing they have been held back by squabbling and internal conflict at the club.

His annoyance means that he is now considering switching his attention to English football.

“English football is full of big teams with big histories and with an incredible league,” Ismaik said.

“There are also rules that encourage and help investors and give them a hand so that they can make their clubs successful.

“It might take a month it might take three years but we are considering investing in a club in England. When you think about football you think about the emotion and the culture of football, the fans and the experience of being at the stadium and having fun - and the history also. Being somewhere that has all those things is something we want. So we are thinking about everything.”

Ismaik started his career as a property entrepreneur and is the founder and chairman of HAMG Group, an Abu Dhabi-based group of investment companies, whose portfolio covers energy, transport, construction, retail and hotels.

Ismaik added: “We want to be somewhere also where we are given more respect. We want to own a club where we can move forward, somewhere that wants to grow and improve and be successful. But, most of all, when you invest in football you want to have fun.”

Ismaik’s declared interest is bound to alert a number of clubs in the Premier League and also the Championship who are either actively up for sale or who would want to attract fresh ownership.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 26, 2015, 10:12:24 AM
van Gaal wukkin hard to prove Ed Woodward a liar. The hammer and de axe are in free fall, getting perilously close to the Dutch man's neck.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 30, 2015, 01:21:59 AM
Premier League nationalities: Watford most diverse team
By Adam Smith, SkySports


Watford have only used two English players this season - fewer than any other Premier League club.

Quique Sanchez Flores has fielded 21 players this term and a league-high 18 different nationalities but Troy Deeney and Ben Watson are the only Englishmen to feature for them. That means just 9.5 per cent of players used by Watford in this campaign have been English.

Chelsea have used the second-fewest number of Englishmen, with only John Terry, Gary Cahill and Ruben Loftus-Cheek turning out for the defending champions so far this season.

Meanwhile, Arsenal have used four Englishmen - Calum Chambers, Kieran Gibbs, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Theo Walcott - but they have accounted for just over 10 per cent of the team's total minutes played.

Most English

Bournemouth have used the highest proportion of English players (59.1 per cent) - fielding 13 Englishmen - while Norwich City (52.4 per cent) and Crystal Palace (50 per cent) are second and third on the list, having fielded 11 and 12 English players respectively.

Welsh club Swansea City have used a higher proportion of English players than 12 other Premier League clubs - 36.8 per cent of the players used by Garry Monk this term have been English. However, in terms of actual minutes played, the English Swans account for just 24 per cent of the total time clocked by Swansea players.

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League of nations

In total, 141 English players have been used in the Premier League this season, which represents nearly a third of all players used.

Players affiliated to France are the second-most used nationality (30 players in total), representing seven per cent of the Premier League's used players, followed by Spain (29), Netherlands (19), Republic of Ireland (18), Belgium (16), Argentina (15), Wales (14), Scotland (13) and Brazil (11).

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Your team's players...

Watford

As well as English duo Troy Deeney and Ben Watson, the Hornets also have a Netherlands pair in Nathan Ake and Steven Berghuis, as well as a Swiss partnership in Almen Abdi and Valon Behrami.

Every other Watford player this season has been the sole representative for his home country: Adlene Guedioura (Algeria), Sebastian Prodl (Austria), Heurelho Gomes (Brazil), Allan Nyom (Cameroon), Victor Ibarbo (Colombia), Juan Carlos Paredes (Ecuador), Etienne Capoue (France), Jose Holebas (Greece), Alessandro Diamanti (Italy), Miguel Layun (Mexico), Odion Ighalo (Nigeria), Craig Cathcart (Northern Ireland), Ikechi Anya (Scotland), Jurado (Spain) and Miguel Britos (Uruguay). 

Leicester City

Leicester have played 20 different players this season, of which six were English: Marc Albrighton, Daniel Drinkwater, Nathan Dyer, Joe Dodoo, Danny Simpson and the Premier Leage's top goalscorer Jamie Vardy.

Every other Leicester player has been affiliated to a different country - with 15 nationalities represented in total.

Southampton

Southampton have fielded 22 players this season, with 13 representing different nationalities. Ryan Bertrand, Steven Caulker, Kelvin Davis, Jay Rodriguez, Matt Targett and James Ward-Prowse comprise the Saints' English group.

Ronald Koeman has also played Netherlands trio Jordy Clasie, Maarten Stekelenburg and Virgil van Dijk.

The Saints also have a Spanish duo in Juanmi and Oriol Romeu, along with Portuguese pair Cedric Soares and Jose Fonte.

Crystal Palace

Palace have fielded 24 different players this season, along with Manchester United, Newcastle and West Ham - the highest in the Premier League so far.

Half of the Eagles' fielded players have been affiliated to different nationalities, while the other half are English: Patrick Bamford, Fraizer Campbell, Scott Dann, Dwight Gayle, Martin Kelly, Alex McCarthy, Jordon Mutch, Jason Puncheon, Joel Ward, Connor Wickham, Wilfried Zaha and the since-departed Glenn Murray.

Alan Pardew has also used two Welsh players in Wayne Hennessey and Joe Ledley.

Newcastle

The Magpies have used three nationality quintets this season, from England, France and the Netherlands. The English representation includes Rolando Aarons, Jack Colback, Jamaal Lascelles, Steven Taylor and Ivan Toney.

Gini Wijnaldum, injured goalkeeper Tim Krul, Daryl Janmaat, Siem de Jong and Vurnon Anita comprise the Dutch representation in Tyneside.

Steve McClaren's French contingent include Yoan Gouffran, Massadio Haidara, Gabriel Obertan, Moussa Sissoko and Florian Thauvin.

Sunderland

Sunderland have fielded seven English players this season - two more than their neighbours Newcastle.

The Black Cats have also played three pairs of fellow countrymen, from Sweden, the Netherlands and France - with all other players coming from different countries.

Swansea

Along with Arsenal, Swansea have only played 19 different players this season - fewer than any other Premier League club.

The Swans have given seven English players a league run-out in 2015/16: Kyle Bartley, Leon Britton, Jack Cork, Nathan Dyer, Kyle Naughton, Wayne Routledge and Jonjo Shelvey - every other player has been the sole representative for his country.

West Brom

West Brom boast a predominantly British playing squad, having fielded six English players, three Northern Irishmen, two Scotsmen and two Welshmen this season.

West Ham

West Ham have four national pairs: the in-form Manuel Lanzini and Mauro Zarate from Argentina, Irish duo Josh Cullen and Darren Randolph, Spain's Adrian and Pedro Obiang, as well as Senegal pair Cheikhou Kouyate and Diafra Sakho.

Slaven Bilic has fielded nine English players this season, comprising more than a third of all West Ham players used so far: Michail Antonio, Andy Carroll, Aaron Cresswell, Matt Jarvis - who is now on loan at Norwich City - Carl Jenkinson, Mark Noble, the since-released Kevin Nolan, Reece Oxford and James Tomkins.

Aston Villa

Seven English players have appeared for Aston Villa this season: Gabriel Agbonlahor, Joleon Lescott, Micah Richards, Kieran Richardson, Scott Sinclair, Ashley Westwood and Jack Grealish - who committed his international future to England recently.

The Villans also have three Spanish players (Carles Gil, Jose Angel Crespo and Adama Traore), along with two French players (Jordan Amavi and Jordan Veretout).

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Manchester United

Louis van Gaal has fielded eight English players so far this season, and used 24 different players - of which 11 nationalities have been represented. 

The Red Devils' English contingent includes Michael Carrick, Phil Jones, youngster Jesse Lingard, Wayne Rooney, injured Luke Shaw, Chris Smalling, James Wilson and Ashley Young.

Out of those players, excluding the since-departed Mexican Javier Hernandez, only three do not have a fellow countryman: Ecuador international Antonio Valencia, German Bastian Schweinsteiger and Italian Matteo Darmian.

Stoke City

Stoke have only played four Englishmen this season: Jack Butland, Peter Crouch, Glen Johnson and Steve Sidwell.

Mark Hughes has played an equal number of Irishmen in Stephen Ireland, Jonathan Walters, Glenn Whelan and Marc Wilson.

The Potters also have Spanish trio Bojan, Joselu and Marc Muniesa, along with Ibrahim Afellay, Erik Pieters and Marco van Ginkel from the Netherlands, and Scottish pair Charlie Adam and Phil Bardsley.

Chelsea

helsea have fielded a higher proportion of Brazilian (18.8 per cent) and Spanish (18.8 per cent) players than English (13.6 per cent) this season.

The Blues' pair of national quartets include Kenedy, Oscar, Ramires and Willian of Brazil, and Spain's Pedro, Cesc Fabregas, Diego Costa and Cesar Azpilicueta.

Gary Cahill, John Terry and youngster Ruben Loftus-Cheek are the only Englishmen to have clocked minutes on the pitch under Jose Mourhino this season.

Everton

Forty per cent of Everton's fielded players have been English this season, with eight appearing for the Toffees out of 20 different players.

Roberto Martinez has placed faith in Ross Barkley, Gareth Barry, John Stones, Aaron Lennon, Phil Jagielka, Brendan Galloway, Tom Cleverley and Tyias Browning.

Everton have also played Irish trio Seamus Coleman, Darron Gibson and James McCarthy, along with Belgian pair Romelu Lukaku and Kevin Mirallas.

Tottenham

Tottenham have given 10 Englishmen a run-out this season, suggesting that Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino is happy to build with homegrown talent.

England youngster Dele Alli, Eric Dier, Harry Kane, Tom Carroll, Ryan Mason, Alex Pritchard, Danny Rose, Andros Townsend, Kieran Trippier and Kyle Walker have all made appearances for the north London club this season.

Toby Alderweireld, Nacer Chadli, Mousa Dembele and Jan Vertonghen also comprise a Belgian quartet at White Hart Lane.

Bournemouth

Bournemouth have played a higher proportion of English players than any other Premier League club this season.

The south-coast club have fielded 13 English players this season, representing 59 per cent of all used players. Moreover, in terms of minutes played, Eddie Howe's side has been 64.7 per cent English.

The Cherries have also used French pair Sylvain Distin and Yann Kermorgant.

Liverpool

Jurgen Klopp inherited a team that has played nine Englishmen this season: Nathaniel Clyne, Jordan Henderson, Jordon Ibe, Adam Lallana, James Milner, along with an injury-hit group including Danny Ings, Jordan Rossiter, Joe Gomez and Daniel Sturridge.

The Reds also have Belgian trio Christian Benteke, Simon Mignolet and Divock Origi, along with a three-strong Brazilian group of Philippe Coutinho, Lucas Leiva and Roberto Firmino.

Manchester City

The biggest proportion of fielded players at City are Argentine (22.7 per cent) with Sergio Aguero, Martin Demichelis, Nicolas Otamendi, Pablo Zabeleta and Willy Caballero - with Brazilians Fernandinho and Fernando adding to the South American core.

Manuel Pellegrini has only used four Englishmen this season: Joe Hart, Fabian Delph, Raheem Sterling and Patrick Roberts.

City also have three French players (Samir Nasri, Bacary Sagna and Eliaquim Mangala) and two Belgians (Kevin De Bruyne and Vincent Kompany).

Arsenal

More than 26 per cent of Arsenal's used players have been French (Olivier Giroud, Laurent Koscielny, Francis Coquelin, Mathieu Debuchy and Mathieu Flamini), with English and Spanish players making up the joint second-highest proportion (both 21 per cent).

Four English players have played for the Gunners (Calum Chambers, Kieran Gibbs, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Theo Walcott), while Nacho Monreal, Santi Cazorla, Hector Bellerin and Mikel Arteta represent Arsenal's Spanish contingent.

German internationals Mesut Ozil and Per Mertesacker, along with Gabriel Paulista (Brazil), Alexis Sanchez (Chile), Petr Cech (Czech Republic) and Aaron Ramsey (Wales) complete the Gunners' list of used players in 2015/16.

In terms of nationalities used, Wenger has only fielded eight in the league, which - along with Norwich City - is the fewest used by a Premier League club so far this season.

Norwich

Having only used eight different nationalities so far this season, Alex Neil has also opted for a British core - fielding 11 Englishmen, three Scots, two Irish and one Northern Irishman.

The only other players to have appeared for Norwich City this season are Sebastien Bassong (Cameroon), Dieumerci Mbokani (Congo DR), Alexander Tettey (Norway) and Martin Olsson (Sweden).
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 23, 2016, 12:54:11 PM
A classic example of the long ball working: West Ham releasing a long ball (via Collins) to ease the barrage they were facing from City ... City concede a throw-in off that ball; Antonio's long throw-in results in Enner Valencia scoring (having bested Otamendi) and Otamendi mouthing hijo de puta ... puta madre.  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on January 23, 2016, 09:12:29 PM
Valencia read the ball before Otamendi. That was weak play.
What about delle ali's goal.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 23, 2016, 10:17:21 PM
Payet and Hart had a couple supreme moments also.

Dele Ali's goal was special. Worthy of a Spurs player. Reminds me of Heinze's WC scorcher v. Nigeria.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on February 06, 2016, 08:16:21 AM
The Blue Moon eh rising, but maybe one of the stars will come to the rescue.  Leicester running rampant at decisive moments. Not much likelihood of City rescuing a point.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on February 06, 2016, 11:31:23 AM
I can't doubt LC any more nah. Big result.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 01, 2016, 05:49:11 PM
It's March 1 and Chelsea is bearing down on a Europa spot!!!
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on March 02, 2016, 07:35:18 PM
So Leicester City slipped up yesterday and Arsneal, Tottenham and Man City all failed to close the gap....like it's meant to be for LC this year.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 02, 2016, 07:54:46 PM
So Leicester City slipped up yesterday and Arsneal, Tottenham and Man City all failed to close the gap....like it's meant to be for LC this year.

But not United.  ;D
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on March 02, 2016, 11:00:01 PM
So Leicester City slipped up yesterday and Arsneal, Tottenham and Man City all failed to close the gap....like it's meant to be for LC this year.

But not United.  ;D
Next year :devil:
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 02, 2016, 11:15:59 PM
So Leicester City slipped up yesterday and Arsneal, Tottenham and Man City all failed to close the gap....like it's meant to be for LC this year.

But not United.  ;D
Next year :devil:

Next matchday: Spurs face Arsenal at White Hart Lane (derby!!!); City have Villa (should be a foregone conclusion); Leicester battle Watford, and United have to deal with Albion who are in good nick although porous in defence. Week after WBA have Arsenal.

(Ah not a United fan doh).
Title: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: maxg on March 19, 2016, 07:26:04 AM
0 entertainment value..after 35 mins not waiting for result.. Can't even get 1 beat outta Sanchez, pure 2 touch...no good for me, when ah doh care who win.  Click
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: maxg on March 19, 2016, 10:55:18 AM
Che v Whu much more entertaining.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 20, 2016, 02:19:26 PM
Missed the Manchester derby. Good game?
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on March 20, 2016, 03:22:30 PM
Missed the Manchester derby. Good game?
To be fair City dominated most of the game controlling most of the possession having 26 shots. The sad thing was only 3 were on target as opposed to ManU having 5 shots with 4 on target. It wasn't end to end action by no means, City allowed this one to slip.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 20, 2016, 03:30:00 PM
Missed the Manchester derby. Good game?
To be fair City dominated most of the game controlling most of the possession having 26 shots. The sad thing was only 3 were on target as opposed to ManU having 5 shots with 4 on target. It wasn't end to end action by no means, City allowed this one to slip.

And goal by "we boi" Rashford!

Possession at 55/45 but the completed passes were 373 to 301.

~70 more completed passes with that 10% possession margin suggests another/additional problem.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on March 20, 2016, 06:20:27 PM
How is Rashford "we boi"?
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on March 20, 2016, 06:50:38 PM
Man city missing de bruyne bad. Silva and moreso navas are predictable nowadays. For all their possession they didn't make many good chances. They rely too much on Aguero's brilliance. Yaya struggles in attack when they crowd him.
Aguero missed a great chance and made a bad pass in the dying moments when he could have made a difference.
Bony came on and struggled.

Demichelis went in like a rookie and Rashford skipped past and finished like a veteran.
Plus Hart and sterling came off injured, and in the cl last week kompany and otamendi were injured. So problems for city in the season run in. Man u and west ham could pass them for the 4th spot.

I kinda backing west ham cuz I real like how Payet playin. West ham will have to come good to hold on to him I think
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on March 20, 2016, 10:03:02 PM
Demichells had a bad game in general. Got beaten on the first goal like a novice, should've had a penalty called on him for playing man and not the ball, sloppy back pass to Hart which led to his injury.....not surprised he was ultimately substituted.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on April 09, 2016, 10:10:11 PM
Word is West Ham v Arsenal has been the best game of the season.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on April 10, 2016, 09:29:42 AM
Word is West Ham v Arsenal has been the best game of the season.
Missed that one but judging by the the score line it looks like it was entertaining.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on April 10, 2016, 09:31:19 AM
Word is West Ham v Arsenal has been the best game of the season.
Missed that one but judging by the the score line it looks like it was entertaining.

Fantastic game.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on April 10, 2016, 09:31:53 AM
LC continues their miracle run, as it stands they're 9 points away from the title.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on April 10, 2016, 11:23:45 AM
Man u just take a beating at Tottenham.
I only see the 2nd half but they hardly do anything.  Martial had a chance he shoulda scored but hit straight to the keeper.
Spurs on the other hand looked purposeful going forward. Good passing and running.
Poch have them clicking.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on April 10, 2016, 11:31:38 AM
Manu was not bad in the first, but fell apart in the 2nd. First goal was Bland fault. He did not track fast enough. And from Spurs got the upper hand.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on April 10, 2016, 11:39:40 AM
Man city missing de bruyne bad. Silva and moreso navas are predictable nowadays. For all their possession they didn't make many good chances. They rely too much on Aguero's brilliance. Yaya struggles in attack when they crowd him.
Aguero missed a great chance and made a bad pass in the dying moments when he could have made a difference.
Bony came on and struggled.

Demichelis went in like a rookie and Rashford skipped past and finished like a veteran.
Plus Hart and sterling came off injured, and in the cl last week kompany and otamendi were injured. So problems for city in the season run in. Man u and west ham could pass them for the 4th spot.

I kinda backing west ham cuz I real like how Payet playin. West ham will have to come good to hold on to him I think

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/07/bob-wilsons-guide-to-stopping-a-dimitri-payet-free-kick/

Wenger had very complimentary things to say about him last week. Says he always had bags of exceptional talent, only recently being applied maximally ... hence his recall to NT set-up. Has known him since he was at St. Etienne.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: MEP on April 10, 2016, 02:47:20 PM
LC continues their miracle run, as it stands they're 9 points away from the title.

I think not..below i s a nice read about them

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/claudio-ranieri-leicester-city-premier-league/
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on April 10, 2016, 06:04:21 PM
LC continues their miracle run, as it stands they're 9 points away from the title.

I think not..below i s a nice read about them

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/claudio-ranieri-leicester-city-premier-league/
Nice story  :beermug:
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on April 17, 2016, 08:18:36 AM
This game is bitter drama ... and a poor moment of theatrics. What a strike from Cresswell.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on April 17, 2016, 08:20:53 AM
This game is bitter drama ... and a poor moment of theatrics. What a strike from Cresswell.

Ref tief and then tief back.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on April 17, 2016, 08:34:37 AM
This game is bitter drama ... and a poor moment of theatrics. What a strike from Cresswell.

Ref tief and then tief back.

He is definitely vulnerable to the charge. Someone must have been whispering in his earpiece.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on April 17, 2016, 10:39:54 AM
As soon as Bolasie made contact ... :whip:
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on April 24, 2016, 11:00:53 AM
Ah wonder if dat ting is Vardy bird?

Anyway back to football, LC demolish Swansea....let's see if they can hold out against Man U, Everton and Chelsea.
Title: Re: anybody watching tottenham vs. leicester city? FSC
Post by: Deeks on April 25, 2016, 04:46:31 PM
Do we have a Leicester Thread. They will be official champions if the beat Utd at Old T. But I read this article where the bookies will have to payout 10 million pounds if Leicester wins. Horray for the bookies.  ;D

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36105265

The UK's leading bookmakers face paying out more than £10m if Leicester City win the Premier League title.

At the beginning of the season, Claudio Ranieri's side were as much as 5,000-1 to finish as champions, while the odds were 1000-1 to be top at Christmas.

The Foxes lead the Premier League by five points from Tottenham and have lost just three times all season.




Leicester can guarantee themselves a shock title triumph with three wins from their remaining four games.

Betfred are the only bookmakers to have already paid out on Leicester as champions, after they beat Southampton 1-0 on 3 April.

"I've been wrong before but this time I can't see Spurs or Arsenal catching Ranieri's men," said Betfred boss Fred Done.

How much the bookies stand to lose

Ladbrokes: £3m
Coral: £2m
William Hill: £2m
Paddy Power: £2m
Betfred: £1.1m

At the start of the season, 47 people placed a bet with Ladbrokes for Leicester to win the title at 5000-1 - of which 23 have cashed out, while 24 are still awaiting their fate.

"Leicester's win would be the biggest upset in the history of betting," Alex Donohue of Ladbrokes told BBC Sport. "It would be the worst result for us financially and our biggest payout by a distance.

"If Chelsea, Manchester City or Manchester United would have won, the total payouts would have been in the few hundred thousands.

"Leicester have been upsetting the odds all season but it is a brilliant Hollywood story that we are a part of. Hats off to anyone who backed them at the start of the season."

Last month, a Leicester fan cashed out for £72,000 from a £50 bet on his team to win the title.

Betfred slip

The store manager of the Loughborough branch of Betfred, an Arsenal supporter, wrote "pigs might fly" on a betting slip when a Leicester fan put a £1 on his side to win the Premier League title
Title: Re: Re: anybody watching tottenham vs. leicester city? FSC
Post by: soccerman on April 25, 2016, 05:40:15 PM
We don't have a LC thread so we've posting stuff in regards to them on this year's EPL thread.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on April 25, 2016, 07:54:09 PM
Everton board to meet to discuss Martínez's future. Which means potential implications for DL?
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on May 02, 2016, 02:58:16 PM
Leicester champions  :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: amazing
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on May 02, 2016, 03:00:21 PM
Leicester City are BPL champs!!! The team with 5000/1 odds at the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on May 02, 2016, 03:00:57 PM
Hip Hip Hooray from a die-hard Man Boo fan!
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 02, 2016, 03:06:48 PM
Was so immersed in things, completely forgot to follow updates on Chelsea-Spurs. Also didn't even consider the match ending in a draw.

For years I've hoped to see Spurs do the business, and it had to be this season of all seasons.

Let's see how Leicester play out the remaining games.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 02, 2016, 03:08:19 PM
Leicester City are BPL champs!!! The team with 5000/1 odds at the beginning of the year.

Iz now dem ppl rushing de bookies.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on May 02, 2016, 03:11:25 PM
Leicester City are BPL champs!!! The team with 5000/1 odds at the beginning of the year.

Iz now dem ppl rushing de bookies.

Whoever placed bets on them at the beginning came out good. I'm sure a die hard granny from LC probably placed a pound or two on their chances of winning.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on May 02, 2016, 03:53:23 PM
LC deserve it. They just did everything right. This is good for the BPL, and football in general. There is always a time for the underdog. Even if it takes over 100 years. Remembered quite well when Chelsea won in 2005 after 50 years. It was a big thing. Remembered quite well when Man Boo won their league after 20 odd years of being trampled by 'Pool. I rejoiced. But LC win is in a way quite unique. Last year they were the hydrant getting soaked. This year they are on the opposite end. They soaking the hydrant. Congrats, again.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on May 02, 2016, 09:32:57 PM
Amazing yes. It must be good to be an LC fan tonight!

The transfer window will be interesting. Big clubs chelsea liverpool and man u out of the cl so they less attractive to potential players. They will have to break the bank. LC gonna have some cash and newfound glory. Spurs also in a very good position to strengthen a good side. Man City safe.
Before Pep was picked I was betting Aguero would be off to real madrid but now I don't know.
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 28, 2016, 03:43:05 AM
Warm up for the CL final with Hull and Wednesday. Kick-off at noon T&T time.

Ah hope Rafa following Steve Bruce closely. They gambling big at Newcastle fuh next year.

Anyhow ...

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11689/10295845/the-price-of-championship-play-off-promotion-the-richest-game-in-football
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 28, 2016, 10:44:49 AM
Hull looks the better of both squads with a lil left before half time.

Wednesday's keeper is keeping them in the game.

View here http://tuttosportweb.com/ch2.html
Title: Re: 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 28, 2016, 11:35:48 AM
Boss strike from Diame. Steve Bruce and Hull are minutes away. Diame had a notable moment in the first half when he froze three players in the penalty area then almost finalized what would have been one of the best goals this year.
Title: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on September 10, 2016, 07:09:07 AM
This Manchester derby is all action. Joe Hart is watching this and getting kicks.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on September 10, 2016, 07:23:53 AM
Torrid debut for Bravo. He does not inspire confidence.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on September 10, 2016, 09:50:31 AM
Ref tiefing for Arsenal
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on September 10, 2016, 11:15:03 AM
Allyuh talking about pastor and church league in the Serie A thread. Liverpool just went back to primary school.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Jumbie on September 10, 2016, 12:06:18 PM
Pogba looked every penny of the $5.36 cents they paid for him
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: maxg on September 10, 2016, 12:08:28 PM
Ref tiefing for Arsenal
well that will be ah 1st.  ;D
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Jumbie on September 18, 2016, 09:15:36 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cso8bQNWAAAciq5.jpg:large)
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 18, 2016, 10:21:00 AM
Pogba looked every penny of the $5.36 cents they paid for him
Mou playing Pogba too deep.  He is stifling the man.


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Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on September 24, 2016, 06:15:43 AM
manu puttin leicester to d sword
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on September 24, 2016, 11:29:30 AM
Plenty licks sharing today.

Man U:  4-1
Man City: 3-1
Liverpool: 5 -1
Arsenal: 3-0 at the half.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Jumbie on September 26, 2016, 01:57:22 PM
With Shrek on the bench, seeing improvements in Pogba's game
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 02, 2016, 08:31:40 AM
Spurs playing a fantastic game vs City. 2-0. City looking like Barsa in style of play and uniform.  Talking about uniforms. I watch a little of Wolves and Norwich. Norwich has a shirt that looked like pajama top or hospital attendant uniform.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 02, 2016, 08:41:34 AM
Had a sense that the penalty would not be converted. Nevertheless, that is precisely the way to play inside the box.

Regular link sticking. Anybody have a reliable alternative? Where Bitter? :devil: Ah know dahis his favourite question.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 02, 2016, 09:05:04 AM
Is John Stones for City English? Good attacking for a center back.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 02, 2016, 09:07:48 AM
Spurs looked very good.  But both sides were excellent. Best game for the season.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: davyjenny1 on October 02, 2016, 09:17:32 AM
Yes! I love it Spurs, good footbal. MC Got close down very quickly and Spurs attacked them with great authority.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 02, 2016, 09:18:00 AM
Is John Stones for City English? Good attacking for a center back.

Yeah, Deeks. Already capped. Was the subject of immense transfer interest while at Everton and ended up at City. However, never saw any action in France during the Euros, so understandable you missed him.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 02, 2016, 11:46:24 AM
Stunning that the Gunners did not drop 3 points today. Seemed the perfect occasion for them to stick to the script.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on October 02, 2016, 11:58:38 AM
Stunning that the Gunners did not drop 3 points today. Seemed the perfect occasion for them to stick to the script.

Considering the goal was both offside and a handball, I'll say they seem to have a new script these days.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on October 03, 2016, 04:27:33 PM
Swansea dismiss Francesco Guidolin, appoint former U.S. boss Bob Bradley (http://www.espnfc.us/swansea-city/story/2965022/swansea-dismiss-francesco-guidolin-and-appoint-ex-united-states-boss-bob-bradley)



Swansea City have named former United States boss Bob Bradley as their new coach after parting company with Francesco Guidolin.

Bradley, 58, had been linked with the position last week as Guidolin came under pressure following a poor run of results, and the Italian has been dismissed after Saturday's 2-1 defeat to Liverpool, which left the club 17th in the Premier League.

Swansea have now turned to Bradley, who had been in charge of French second-tier side Le Havre and becomes the first American to take charge of a club in any of Europe's top five leagues.

Bradley called the Swansea job "a unique opportunity" in a parting message on Le Havre's website.

"I also know that it is thanks to the exposure this club have given me I can now today coach in the Premier League."

Swansea chairman Huw Jenkins told the club's official website: "We are delighted Bob has agreed to join us. He is highly regarded as a coach and has a wealth of experience on the international and domestic front.

"He is well aware of the club's footballing philosophy and will provide us with strong leadership qualities and a renewed belief to compete at this level. It is never easy changing managers, but we are looking at a long-term appointment and we are confident Bob can settle us down and stabilise matters on and off the pitch."


Guidolin, who turned 61 on Monday, had taken charge at the Liberty Stadium in January and guided the club to Premier League safety, finishing in 12th position.

Jenkins said: "We are obviously disappointed to part company with Francesco. We felt he deserved his opportunity after the work he did last season.

"Unfortunately we have not been able to carry performances over from last season and we felt we needed to change things as soon as possible in order to move forward in a positive way.

"We would like to thank Francesco and his staff for their services to the club and wish them well for the future.''

In July, an American consortium led by Steve Kaplan and Jason Levien bought a controlling stake in Swansea. Landon Donovan, a U.S. international during Bradley's tenure, is also a shareholder.

Bradley was in charge of the U.S. national team from 2006 to 2011, including for the 2010 World Cup, before being replaced by Jurgen Klinsmann.

He then managed the Egypt national team and enjoyed a successful spell with Stabaek, helping the Norwegian club qualify for the Europa League for the first time.

He joined Le Havre last November and just missed out on promotion to Ligue 1 in May.

Le Havre announced the appointment of Oswald Tanchot as Bradley's replacement on Monday.

Bradley said: "On the one hand, I would have liked to see the project through by taking the team up at the end of the season. On the other hand, I thank HAC [Le Havre] and president [Vincent] Volpe for allowing me the chance to coach in the world's leading league.

"It is a unique opportunity and I will not forget HAC and the president have made it possible for me to take it at this moment during the season. I also know I can now coach in the Premier League thanks to the exposure this club has offered me.

"I have total confidence in Oswald's work. It has been a pleasure working with him and I know he is up to the set task: a Ligue 1 return. I will certainly continue to be a strong supporter of HAC."

Le Havre president Volpe said he was satisfied that Tanchot, who had been Bradley's assistant, would be a strong appointment.

"I am pleased for two reasons," he said. "Firstly, because we have helped Bob to reach the Premier League and secondly because Oswald is succeeding him as coach. When Bob Bradley arrived in November of 2015, we hoped to team them up so that this promising young coach could learn from his time in contact with the former U.S. men's national team boss.

"We also convinced Oswald to stay at the club this summer because he was wanted by others. We explained to him that he was well positioned to become coach in the medium to long term. We already anticipated the current situation and the senior side will now be led by Oswald Tanchot, holder of the BEPF [FFF coaching badge]."

Le Havre are currently 11th in Ligue 2.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 03, 2016, 06:12:27 PM
Quote
In July, an American consortium led by Steve Kaplan and Jason Levien bought a controlling stake in Swansea. Landon Donovan, a U.S. international during Bradley's tenure, is also a shareholder.

Everything you needed to know, right there.

(Also heard England is considering hiring a German coach despite the recent memory of WW II). Thomo? Comment?
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 03, 2016, 07:25:24 PM
Article in the NYT suggests Bradley was better prepared when interviewed, but I suspect he held a cultural advantage regarding anticipation of the reported key question asked.

Will post the article if no one does so in the interim.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 17, 2016, 12:12:49 PM
Liverpool v. Manchester United. Rooney not starting. Pool with a chance to top the table. Man U to go level on points with Liverpool, if Pool loses. Looking forward to a game that merits a big club clash.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on October 17, 2016, 05:43:38 PM
.......mou's typically cowar... ah mean tactical approach to "BIG" teams ::) strikes again....hopefully he will be more adventurous against his old club on Sunday....
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 17, 2016, 06:11:03 PM
You didn't identify enterprise in United's effort today?
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 23, 2016, 09:06:38 AM
Pedro: "Welcome back to the Bridge, Jose."
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on October 23, 2016, 09:07:11 AM
29.6secs 1-0 special one hadda roll away d bus  ;D
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 23, 2016, 09:22:58 AM
Cahill: "Welcome back to the Bridge, Jose."
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on October 23, 2016, 10:20:04 AM
3-0 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 23, 2016, 10:22:09 AM
Hazard: "Welcome ::) back to the Bridge, Jose."
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 23, 2016, 10:28:42 AM
Mercy!

Kante: "Welcome back to the Bridge, Jose." :P
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on October 23, 2016, 10:29:08 AM
kante my engine 4-0
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on October 23, 2016, 10:54:29 AM
 :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: g on October 24, 2016, 06:34:41 AM
Tight race so far in the PL, i think the top 5 separated by a point. Man City and Liverpool look the most impressive thus far.

Arsenal similar but they always seem to come up short over the course of a full season, will this be different?

Chelsea seems to be growing in confidence after a tough last season and Spurs will try to keep the good form from last year up as well.

Man Utd look off the pace, no real playing identity under JM, no settled first choice 11 either. Confused why some players not getting a look in at all.

The reason why the PL always makes for good viewing is that even apart from the 6 clubs  mentioned above a lot of talent up and down the league in teams like Everton, Southampton, Leicester City, West Ham, etc. Unlike in Spain, unless its Barca, RM or ATL playing i dont have much of an interest in viewing. I admit that playing FPL also encourages looking at all teams to see who the top performers are.

Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 24, 2016, 12:40:41 PM
Manu got spanked. Them guys thought that it was a Euro. game, like the one the played during the week. Chelsea jumped the gun and it was "murder she wrote".
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: injunchile on October 24, 2016, 03:14:37 PM
Chelsea has settled into a System- 3 in the Back with pace from the wing backs. Manu still looking for a style of play. The best this season is against Liverpool. Still a long way to go, but it looks as though Jose might soon  see the back door.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on November 05, 2016, 01:33:54 PM
chelsea's back  ;D ;D ;D 5-0 on everton 3-4-3 FTW, mih fav formation
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on November 05, 2016, 04:10:58 PM
Chelsea destroyed them. Hazard showed some of his exquisite talent. But the entire Chelsea was Barsaresque.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 03, 2016, 07:49:34 AM
Repent allyuh!

Navas putting in good crosses.  :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on December 03, 2016, 08:40:04 AM
Repent allyuh!

Navas putting in good crosses.  :devil: :devil:

bacchanal in end, but good comeback by chelsea
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 03, 2016, 10:04:31 AM
Best game of the season, so far, for me. Had city put away some of the early chances, the feelings for their fans would have been different.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on December 04, 2016, 09:24:12 AM
pool jus let one get away bournmouth boy!
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 04, 2016, 09:24:47 AM
I was about to turn off this game. "No way Liverpool giving up a 3-1 lead"

This is why I don't bet on sports.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on December 04, 2016, 09:35:25 AM
I was about to turn off this game. "No way Liverpool giving up a 3-1 lead"

This is why I don't bet on sports.

ent!.........but more important FOR ME chelsea now lead by "a game"
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 05, 2016, 09:27:58 AM
I was about to turn off this game. "No way Liverpool giving up a 3-1 lead"

This is why I don't bet on sports.

ent!.........but more important FOR ME chelsea now lead by "a game"

If City, et al. let da gap widen it will be extremely difficult to catch us.  City squander rell chances, but dat is football.  When yuh get chances and waste them yuh set yuhself up to be punished by your opponent.  Costa was ah beast and Fabs make some passes dey, lawd fadda!!  Yuh could see where his inclusion brought more pressure on Alonso but the vision is hard to give up.  I really torn between him and Matic starting.  Kante like bestcrete because he done cement heself in de starting lineup.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on December 05, 2016, 10:02:15 AM
I was about to turn off this game. "No way Liverpool giving up a 3-1 lead"

This is why I don't bet on sports.

ent!.........but more important FOR ME chelsea now lead by "a game"

If City, et al. let da gap widen it will be extremely difficult to catch us.  City squander rell chances, but dat is football.  When yuh get chances and waste them yuh set yuhself up to be punished by your opponent.  Costa was ah beast and Fabs make some passes dey, lawd fadda!!  Yuh could see where his inclusion brought more pressure on Alonso but the vision is hard to give up.  I really torn between him and Matic starting.  Kante like bestcrete because he done cement heself in de starting lineup.
D other contenders real drop points and lackin consistency these days, to loose to arsenal and pool and still end up 3 points clear at d top tells a story all by itself.

And as for kante......ENGINE

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Title: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 05, 2016, 10:35:07 AM
Yeah, this weekend was a bit of a letdown.  We missed Matip tremendously.  I hope we go after de Vrij or Jonathan Tah to partner with Matip.  Lovren is still rash in the tackle, and is not a calming influence in the middle of the defense.  Karius is somewhat like de Gea, in that it is taking him time to adjust to the more physical EPL.  We'll see what Klopp decides to do with the GK position.


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Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 10, 2016, 11:52:08 AM
3- something seems to be the order of the day.
Look Man City just collect 3 of the best and is only 20 minutes gone in the first half.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on December 10, 2016, 11:53:18 AM
Man City down by 3 with 20mins gone........ship sinkin and fast for pep.... ;D
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 18, 2016, 09:15:19 AM
Southhampton vs Bournemouth. Absolutely brilliant goal by Rodriguez for Southhampton. 3-1 Southies.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 18, 2016, 09:38:09 AM
Southhampton vs Bournemouth. Absolutely brilliant goal by Rodriguez for Southhampton. 3-1 Southies.

Decided not to slog through that. Dahis to preserve meh appetite for Manchester City - Arsenal. Had to neglect the BPL for a bit.

Lol @ these commentators hoping Pep fails so they could declare English dominance of the league environment. Steups.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 18, 2016, 09:43:19 AM
I was in and out watching this game. Actually these 2 teams have some good players, and good coaches also. They both lack depth, though. I would advise any top 6 EPL teams,  to neglect them is perilous.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 18, 2016, 10:06:01 AM
Gunners up 1, in the 5min. by Walcott.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 27, 2016, 08:47:18 PM
Bob Bradley fired from Swansea. Maybe TTFA can hire him after they terminate Saintfiet.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/after-yet-another-swansea-loss-bob-bradley-is-in-trouble-204617057.html
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 27, 2016, 08:54:51 PM
Bob Bradley fired from Swansea. Maybe TTFA can hire him after they terminate Saintfiet.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/after-yet-another-swansea-loss-bob-bradley-is-in-trouble-204617057.html

Ah betting Kev is not happy to see him go.   ;D
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on December 28, 2016, 12:55:32 AM
Bob Bradley's tenure at Swansea
https://www.youtube.com/v/vgqRis_czYg
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 28, 2016, 07:03:15 AM
Unfortunately for him. He took a sinking ship with the full knowledge that he must do or he will die. But that is the nature of this job. Win or walk the plank. I still think he is a good coach.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on December 29, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
man jus break down chelsea and conte for anybody who like learnin d game
https://www.youtube.com/v/X1-9UHeBsjg
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 12, 2017, 05:33:10 AM
Makalele has joined Swansea's coaching staff.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on January 15, 2017, 09:10:57 AM
Pep baptism of fire in EPL continues Everton 3-0
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on January 15, 2017, 09:13:35 AM
Pep baptism of fire in EPL continues Everton 3-0

Pep said bout 11 men could leave at end of season.  He doesn't have all the pieces to play how he wants to, but no excuses - that squad is still stacked. The EPL is a different animal; it ain't no 2-team race.


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Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on January 15, 2017, 09:21:53 AM
But still he was off like ah stallion early in season and now 10 points behind dat is ah incredible fall....even if yuh doh have d players yuh prefer.......lehwe see if he goh stay and tackle d epl challenge going forward

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Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on January 15, 2017, 09:24:19 AM
But still he was off like ah stallion early in season and now 10 points behind dat is ah incredible fall....even if yuh doh have d players yuh prefer.......lehwe see if he goh stay and tackle d epl challenge going forward

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His legend would be tainted, if he were to walk away from unfinished business. Just routed by an average Everton team!


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Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 15, 2017, 09:31:43 AM
Reality bites!
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on January 15, 2017, 09:31:44 AM
Yeah he goh definitely want to have EPL on he list of conquest simple because d EPL proponents want him to fail bad....in what is by far d most balanced league in Europe in terms of challenges..... lehwe see wah goh take place.

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Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on January 15, 2017, 10:47:44 AM
come on ManU pick alyuh game ;)
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on January 15, 2017, 10:48:52 AM
come on ManU pick alyuh game ;)

Encouraged by 'Pool's first half display, considering who they've got on the bench to unleash.


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Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on January 15, 2017, 11:20:44 AM
I want manU to get ah result.....chelsea lead is my concern want it to grow

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Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on January 15, 2017, 12:03:46 PM
thanks jose
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on February 04, 2017, 08:31:43 AM
plenty time to go but Conte is proof dat yuh could micro manage without stranglin creativity....jose should take note

harzard goal boy :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on February 04, 2017, 10:51:30 AM
Liverpool just can't get the ball in the goal. But give credit to Hull, they playing pit bull football.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on February 04, 2017, 10:54:41 AM
Everton v bournmouth was more entertaining  6-3 lukaku with ah bever

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Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 19, 2017, 12:11:58 PM
Citeh v Pool ...

Entertainment galore.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on March 19, 2017, 12:38:18 PM
Will take the point and go, but Lallana dash way


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Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on March 19, 2017, 01:26:27 PM
One of most entertaining game of the season.
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on May 08, 2017, 01:51:26 PM
barring a truly monumental meltdown .......me thinks this is over.....not countin chicken eh but..............
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on May 12, 2017, 04:19:33 PM
Congrats on your team Lefty, well deserved :beermug:

Ah know you probably drunk on de Avenue jamming on every bumper dat pass
Title: Re: 2016/17 English Premier League Thread
Post by: lefty on May 12, 2017, 05:09:46 PM
Congrats on your team Lefty, well deserved :beermug:

Ah know you probably drunk on de Avenue jamming on every bumper dat pass
Nah i home but ah enjoy it to d max. ....chelsea!!!!!!!!..special thanks to arsenal for d cutarse dat start d revolution :) ;) :)

 :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: Flex on June 14, 2017, 11:56:36 AM
Saturday, 12 August, 2017

Arsenal v Leicester City
Brighton v Manchester City Chelsea v Burnley Crystal Palace v Huddersfield Town Everton v Stoke City Manchester United v West Ham United Newcastle United v Tottenham Hotspur Southampton v Swansea City Watford v Liverpool West Bromwich Albion v AFC Bournemouth

Saturday, 19 August, 2017

AFC Bournemouth v Watford
Burnley v West Bromwich Albion Huddersfield Town v Newcastle United Leicester City v Brighton Liverpool v Crystal Palace Manchester City v Everton Stoke City v Arsenal Swansea City v Manchester United Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea West Ham United v Southampton

Saturday, 26 August, 2017

AFC Bournemouth v Manchester City
Chelsea v Everton Crystal Palace v Swansea City Huddersfield Town v Southampton Liverpool v Arsenal Manchester United v Leicester City Newcastle United v West Ham United Tottenham Hotspur v Burnley Watford v Brighton West Bromwich Albion v Stoke City

Saturday, 9 September, 2017

Arsenal v AFC Bournemouth
Brighton v West Bromwich Albion Burnley v Crystal Palace Everton v Tottenham Hotspur Leicester City v Chelsea Manchester City v Liverpool Southampton v Watford Stoke City v Manchester United Swansea City v Newcastle United West Ham United v Huddersfield Town

Saturday, 16 September, 2017

AFC Bournemouth v Brighton
Chelsea v Arsenal Crystal Palace v Southampton Huddersfield Town v Leicester City Liverpool v Burnley Manchester United v Everton Newcastle United v Stoke City Tottenham Hotspur v Swansea City Watford v Manchester City West Bromwich Albion v West Ham United

Saturday, 23 September, 2017

Arsenal v West Bromwich Albion
Brighton v Newcastle United Burnley v Huddersfield Town Everton v AFC Bournemouth Leicester City v Liverpool Manchester City v Crystal Palace Southampton v Manchester United Stoke City v Chelsea Swansea City v Watford West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday, 30 September, 2017

AFC Bournemouth v Leicester City
Arsenal v Brighton Chelsea v Manchester City Everton v Burnley Huddersfield Town v Tottenham Hotspur Manchester United v Crystal Palace Newcastle United v Liverpool Stoke City v Southampton West Bromwich Albion v Watford West Ham United v Swansea City

Saturday, 14 October, 2017

Brighton v Everton
Burnley v West Ham United Crystal Palace v Chelsea Leicester City v West Bromwich Albion Liverpool v Manchester United Manchester City v Stoke City Southampton v Newcastle United Swansea City v Huddersfield Town Tottenham Hotspur v AFC Bournemouth Watford v Arsenal

Saturday, 21 October, 2017

Chelsea v Watford
Everton v Arsenal Huddersfield Town v Manchester United Manchester City v Burnley Newcastle United v Crystal Palace Southampton v West Bromwich Albion Stoke City v AFC Bournemouth Swansea City v Leicester City Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool West Ham United v Brighton

Saturday, 28 October , 2017

AFC Bournemouth v Chelsea
Arsenal v Swansea City Brighton v Southampton Burnley v Newcastle United Crystal Palace v West Ham United Leicester City v Everton Liverpool v Huddersfield Town Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur Watford v Stoke City West Bromwich Albion v Manchester City

Saturday, 4 November, 2017

Chelsea v Manchester United
Everton v Watford Huddersfield Town v West Bromwich Albion Manchester City v Arsenal Newcastle United v AFC Bournemouth Southampton v Burnley Stoke City v Leicester City Swansea City v Brighton Tottenham Hotspur v Crystal Palace West Ham United v Liverpool

Saturday, 18 November, 2017

AFC Bournemouth v Huddersfield Town
Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur Brighton v Stoke City Burnley v Swansea City Crystal Palace v Everton Leicester City v Manchester City Liverpool v Southampton Manchester United v Newcastle United Watford v West Ham United West Bromwich Albion v Chelsea

Saturday, 25 November, 2017

Burnley v Arsenal
Crystal Palace v Stoke City Huddersfield Town v Manchester City Liverpool v Chelsea Manchester United v Brighton Newcastle United v Watford Southampton v Everton Swansea City v AFC Bournemouth Tottenham Hotspur v West Bromwich Albion West Ham United v Leicester City

Tuesday, 28 November, 2017

AFC Bournemouth v Burnley
Arsenal v Huddersfield Town Brighton v Crystal Palace Leicester City v Tottenham Hotspur Watford v Manchester United West Bromwich Albion v Newcastle United (8pm)

Wednesday, 29 November, 2017

Chelsea v Swansea City
Everton v West Ham United Manchester City v Southampton (8pm) Stoke City v Liverpool (8pm)

Saturday, 2 December, 2017

AFC Bournemouth v Southampton
Arsenal v Manchester United Brighton v Liverpool Chelsea v Newcastle United Everton v Huddersfield Town Leicester City v Burnley Manchester City v West Ham United Stoke City v Swansea City Watford v Tottenham Hotspur West Bromwich Albion v Crystal Palace

Saturday, 9 December, 2017

Burnley v Watford
Crystal Palace v AFC Bournemouth Huddersfield Town v Brighton Liverpool v Everton Manchester United v Manchester City Newcastle United v Leicester City Southampton v Arsenal Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion Tottenham Hotspur v Stoke City West Ham United v Chelsea

Tuesday, 12 December, 2017

Burnley v Stoke City
Crystal Palace v Watford (8pm) Huddersfield Town v Chelsea Manchester United v AFC Bournemouth (8pm) Swansea City v Manchester City West Ham United v Arsenal

Wednesday, 13 December, 2017

Liverpool v West Bromwich Albion (8pm)
Newcastle United v Everton Southampton v Leicester City Tottenham Hotspur v Brighton (8pm)

Saturday, 16 December, 2017

AFC Bournemouth v Liverpool
Arsenal v Newcastle United Brighton v Burnley Chelsea v Southampton Everton v Swansea City Leicester City v Crystal Palace Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur Stoke City v West Ham United Watford v Huddersfield Town West Bromwich Albion v Manchester United

Saturday, 23 December, 2017

Arsenal v Liverpool
Brighton v Watford Burnley v Tottenham Hotspur Everton v Chelsea Leicester City v Manchester United Manchester City v AFC. Bournemouth Southampton v Huddersfield Town Stoke City v West Bromwich Albion Swansea City v Crystal Palace West Ham United v Newcastle United

Tuesday, 26 December, 2017

AFC Bournemouth v West Ham United
Chelsea v Brighton Crystal Palace v Arsenal Huddersfield Town v Stoke City Liverpool v Swansea City Manchester United v Burnley Newcastle United v Manchester City Tottenham Hotspur v Southampton Watford v Leicester City West Bromwich Albion v Everton

Saturday, 30 December, 2017

AFC Bournemouth v Everton
Chelsea v Stoke City Crystal Palace v Manchester City Huddersfield Town v Burnley Liverpool v Leicester City Manchester United v Southampton Newcastle United v Brighton Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham United Watford v Swansea City West Bromwich Albion v Arsenal

Monday, 1 January, 2018

Arsenal v Chelsea
Brighton v AFC Bournemouth Burnley v Liverpool Everton v Manchester United Leicester City v Huddersfield Town Manchester City v Watford Southampton v Crystal Palace Stoke City v Newcastle United Swansea City v Tottenham Hotspur West Ham United v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday, 13 January, 2018

AFC Bournemouth v Arsenal
Chelsea v Leicester City Crystal Palace v Burnley Huddersfield Town v West Ham United Liverpool v Manchester City Manchester United v Stoke City Newcastle United v Swansea City Tottenham Hotspur v Everton Watford v Southampton West Bromwich Albion v Brighton

Saturday, 20 January, 2018

Arsenal v Crystal Palace
Brighton v Chelsea Burnley v Manchester United Everton v West Bromwich Albion Leicester City v Watford Manchester City v Newcastle United Southampton v Tottenham Hotspur Stoke City v Huddersfield Town Swansea City v Liverpool West Ham United v AFC Bournemouth

Tuesday, 30 January, 2018

Huddersfield Town v Liverpool
Swansea City v Arsenal West Ham United v Crystal Palace

Wednesday, 31 January, 2018

Chelsea v AFC Bournemouth
Everton v Leicester City Manchester City v West Bromwich Albion (8pm) Newcastle United v Burnley Southampton v Brighton Stoke City v Watford (8pm) Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United (8pm)

Saturday, 3 February, 2018

AFC Bournemouth v Stoke City
Arsenal v Everton Brighton v West Ham United Burnley v Manchester City Crystal Palace v Newcastle United Leicester City v Swansea City Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur Manchester United v Huddersfield Town Watford v Chelsea West Bromwich Albion v Southampton

Saturday, 10 February, 2018

Chelsea v West Bromwich Albion
Everton v Crystal Palace Huddersfield Town v AFC Bournemouth Manchester City v Leicester City Newcastle United v Manchester United Southampton v Liverpool Stoke City v Brighton Swansea City v Burnley Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal West Ham United v Watford

Saturday, 24 February, 2018

AFC Bournemouth v Newcastle United
Arsenal v Manchester City Brighton v Swansea City Burnley v Southampton Crystal Palace v Tottenham Hotspur Leicester City v Stoke City Liverpool v West Ham United Manchester United v Chelsea Watford v Everton West Bromwich Albion v Huddersfield Town

Saturday, 3 March, 2018

Brighton v Arsenal
Burnley v Everton Crystal Palace v Manchester United Leicester City v AFC Bournemouth Liverpool v Newcastle United Manchester City v Chelsea Southampton v Stoke City Swansea City v West Ham United Tottenham Hotspur v Huddersfield Town Watford v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday, 10 March, 2018

AFC Bournemouth v Tottenham Hotspur
Arsenal v Watford Chelsea v Crystal Palace Everton v Brighton Huddersfield Town v Swansea City Manchester United v Liverpool Newcastle United v Southampton Stoke City v Manchester City West Bromwich Albion v Leicester City West Ham United v Burnley

Saturday, 17 March, 2018

AFC Bournemouth v West Bromwich Albion
Burnley v Chelsea Huddersfield Town v Crystal Palace Leicester City v Arsenal Liverpool v Watford Manchester City v Brighton Stoke City v Everton Swansea City v Southampton Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United West Ham United v Manchester United

Saturday, 31 March, 2018

Arsenal v Stoke City
Brighton v Leicester City Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur Crystal Palace v Liverpool Everton v Manchester City Manchester United v Swansea City Newcastle United v Huddersfield Town Southampton v West Ham United Watford v AFC Bournemouth West Bromwich Albion v Burnley

Saturday, 7 April, 2018

AFC Bournemouth v Crystal Palace
Arsenal v Southampton Brighton v Huddersfield Town Chelsea v West Ham United Everton v Liverpool Leicester City v Newcastle United Manchester City v Manchester United Stoke City v Tottenham Hotspur Watford v Burnley West Bromwich Albion v Swansea City

Saturday, 14 April, 2018

Burnley v Leicester City
Crystal Palace v Brighton Huddersfield Town v Watford Liverpool v AFC Bournemouth Manchester United v West Bromwich Albion Newcastle United v Arsenal Southampton v Chelsea Swansea City v Everton Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City West Ham United v Stoke City

Saturday, 21 April, 2018

AFC Bournemouth v Manchester United
Arsenal v West Ham United Brighton v Tottenham Hotspur Chelsea v Huddersfield Town Everton v Newcastle United Leicester City v Southampton Manchester City v Swansea City Stoke City v Burnley Watford v Crystal Palace West Bromwich Albion v Liverpool

Saturday, 28 April, 2018

Burnley v Brighton
Crystal Palace v Leicester City Huddersfield Town v Everton Liverpool v Stoke City Manchester United v Arsenal Newcastle United v West Bromwich Albion Southampton v AFC Bournemouth Swansea City v Chelsea Tottenham Hotspur v Watford West Ham United v Manchester City

Saturday, 5 May, 2018

AFC Bournemouth v Swansea City
Arsenal v Burnley Brighton v Manchester United Chelsea v Liverpool Everton v Southampton Leicester City v West Ham United Manchester City v Huddersfield Town Stoke City v Crystal Palace Watford v Newcastle United West Bromwich Albion v Tottenham Hotspur

Sunday, 13 May, 2018

Burnley v AFC Bournemouth
Crystal Palace v West Bromwich Albion Huddersfield Town v Arsenal Liverpool v Brighton Manchester United v Watford Newcastle United v Chelsea Southampton v Manchester City Swansea City v Stoke City Tottenham Hotspur v Leicester City West Ham United v Everton

Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 season Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on June 14, 2017, 03:42:39 PM
Done with Fridays and Mondays.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 season Thread
Post by: Sam on July 22, 2017, 11:51:21 AM
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/Jrly0ycrj0eVG/giphy.gif)

During the game vs Chelsea today..
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 11, 2017, 11:09:13 PM
LISTEN BBC Post-match reviews of Arsenal v Leicester.

 The Leicester perspective. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05c5jsj)

 Arsenal win season opener. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05c5dtx)
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 17, 2017, 09:27:33 AM
LISTEN The way Costa is behaving is 'disgraceful'. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05cdpc5)

Ian Wright tells Mark Chapman that he's not happy with the behaviour of Diego Costa after the Chelsea striker claimed the club have treated him like a "criminal" and Antonio Conte lacks "charisma". Wright joins New York Times journalist Rory Smith and former Republic of Ireland midfielder Andy Townsend for the Monday Night Club. The panel also discuss the future of Liverpool's Philippe Coutinho, a dominant Manchester United display and a dream start for Premier League new-boys Huddersfield Town, as we hear from retired captain Mark Hudson.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 20, 2017, 10:10:20 AM
This Spurs-Chelsea game in Wembley is like a cup final.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 20, 2017, 10:47:56 AM
What a freakin' cup final.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2017, 02:15:30 PM
This Spurs-Chelsea game in Wembley is like a cup final.

Quote
They had to do it the hard way, missing key personnel against the team that chased them harder than anyone to that title success. Yet the aberration against Burnley feels almost freakish given the story of this follow-up win and the strength of personality shown by a newly assembled and experimental side. Another team might have wilted after Michy Batshuayi, one of Chelsea’s second-half substitutes, had headed in the own-goal that provided Spurs with an 82nd-minute equaliser but not Chelsea. The decisive goal, Marcos Alonso’s second of the afternoon, was a personal ordeal for Hugo Lloris in the Spurs goal but what does it say about Chelsea that they could recover from Batshuayi’s misfortune to conjure up a winner in the 88th minute?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/20/tottenham-hotspur-chelsea-premier-league-match-report

Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 27, 2017, 10:38:09 AM
We interrupt regular programming to announce the death of Arsenal.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: lefty on August 27, 2017, 12:27:18 PM
We interrupt regular programming to announce the death of Arsenal.
:-\ :-\ :-\ it was funny last year but I feel for there fans
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: soccerman on August 27, 2017, 05:55:40 PM
We interrupt regular programming to announce the death of Arsenal.
:-\ :-\ :-\ it was funny last year but I feel for there fans
We interrupt regular programming to announce the death of Arsenal.
I don't think they even had a shot on target.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 09, 2017, 06:14:16 AM
Mané was entitled to go for that ball. His eyes were entirely on the ball. Similar situations have been ruled otherwise.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: Tallman on September 09, 2017, 06:31:00 AM
Mané was entitled to go for that ball. His eyes were entirely on the ball. Similar situations have been ruled otherwise.

Yeh, but he boots de man in he face.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: Deeks on September 09, 2017, 06:44:26 AM
I seeing quite a few empty seats. This a home game for Man. City. Why is that?
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 09, 2017, 06:49:19 AM
Mané was entitled to go for that ball. His eyes were entirely on the ball. Similar situations have been ruled otherwise.

Yeh, but he boots de man in he face.

I would be more incensed if Ederson jumped up minutes after Mané was carded. No issue regarding the contact.

In my view, video intervention in situations like these would produce a different outcome. Nothing against the goalkeepers union and protecting GKs, but current arrangements place a tad more of a burden on the attacking player.

Once Ederson left the penalty area the burden also shifted because he couldn't use his hands and the ball was too high for him to kick, but not for Mané to ignore.

Perfectly good game mash up now. :devil:
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 09, 2017, 06:53:12 AM
Kun Aguero scored his 124th goal. The goal put him past Dwight Yorke as having scored more goals than any player in the league not from Europe.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: soccerman on September 09, 2017, 02:53:44 PM
Kun Aguero scored his 124th goal. The goal put him past Dwight Yorke as having scored more goals than any player in the league not from Europe.
Dwight held on to that record for about 15 yrs...not bad
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 16, 2017, 12:48:52 PM
Ben Foster and Chicharito? Another GK-attacker incident.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 03, 2018, 10:44:10 AM
City had Burnley to hang this morning. Burnley persevered and got a point. Football is a cruel sport at times. Sterling was the main culprit in a City dropping 2 points. But City is sailing pretty much safely for the championship.
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on February 04, 2018, 09:01:18 AM
deeks this thread old it have one for this season.....d board jus lil stagnant so it deep down but I doubt it deeper than dis one
Title: Re: 2013/14 English Premier League Thread.
Post by: lefty on February 04, 2018, 09:08:34 AM
look d new one here http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=65966.msg975832#msg975832
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: Deeks on February 04, 2018, 04:02:40 PM
Is it I don't know the off-side rules. Yesterday Aubameyang scored a goal, and I swore he was a mile off-side. Then today Spurs got 2 penalties. Kane missed the first. But they look kind of soft. No disrespect to the Spurs fans.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on February 04, 2018, 08:26:36 PM
Is it I don't know the off-side rules. Yesterday Aubameyang scored a goal, and I swore he was a mile off-side. Then today Spurs got 2 penalties. Kane missed the first. But they look kind of soft. No disrespect to the Spurs fans.

That game real piss me off boy. There's even a clip showing the linesman pumping his fist. Something was wrong with this game. I do admit Liverpool didn't do as well the 2nd half but should've taken the 3 points hands down. I had respect for Tottenham before, not anymore.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: Deeks on February 05, 2018, 04:04:48 PM
Chelsea got clobbered 4-1, albeit playing with 10 men. I am afraid Conte might get the axe. It will be sad if this does happens. because I think Conte is a very good coach, and the intense competition and huge money of the premier league causing impatient owners to make "rash" or business decisions. But Watford put on a goal scoring display this evening. It they play like this for the rest of the season,teams  underestimating them will be it at their own peril.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: soccerman on April 07, 2018, 12:40:02 PM
City v Man U almost turned into an episode of Spartacus Blood & Sand
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: Deeks on April 07, 2018, 09:18:40 PM
Did not see the game. Yes, Breds, Manchester Blood and Sand. Good for football in the NE. City, Liverpool, UTD and maybe Everton, they have to improve.  Although City has played the best football by far, followed by Liverpool, it as appears that they are wobbling towards the end. Last Tuesday's game against Pool was perplexing. It is not the lost so much, but the manner in which they lost that game. UTD playing for 2nd spot, which is not a given, and pride. Not to mention the rivalry and playing away. City will win the league but will have to work for it. Pepe must realized that City is not Barca, this is not LaLiga, and he does not have Messi.
Title: Re: EPL 2017-2018 Season Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 19, 2018, 10:43:46 AM
Looking for a FA Cup final live stream. Anyone have one that's of good quality?
Title: EPL 2018-2019 Season Thread
Post by: lefty on August 11, 2018, 05:54:29 PM
if it already have one please merge, but yeah interesting start, my team start shaky but den kinda kech dey self to win, Man U win, tottenham win, top 6 on script so far........wolves look like dey coming to try and play, should be interesting watchin dem dis season
Title: Re: EPL 2018-2019 Season Thread
Post by: lefty on August 12, 2018, 07:34:04 AM
pool v hammers going good....lil one sided though despite d score
Title: Re: EPL 2018-2019 Season Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 13, 2018, 02:31:19 PM
pool v hammers going good....lil one sided though despite d score

lil one sided, you say?
Title: Re: EPL 2018-2019 Season Thread
Post by: lefty on August 13, 2018, 09:48:06 PM
pool v hammers going good....lil one sided though despite d score

lil one sided, you say?
dat was early on when ah say dat...hammers was still tryin ah ting at dat point
Title: Re: EPL 2018-2019 Season Thread
Post by: lefty on August 19, 2018, 11:06:06 AM
Man U .....jose in trouble again.....
Title: Re: EPL 2018-2019 Season Thread
Post by: soccerman on August 19, 2018, 01:26:30 PM
Man U .....jose in trouble again.....
Bring in Zidane!!!
Title: Re: EPL 2018-2019 Season Thread
Post by: lefty on August 27, 2018, 02:13:29 PM
Man U .....jose in trouble again.....
x2 spur 2 up at old trafford
Title: Re: EPL 2018-2019 Season Thread
Post by: lefty on August 27, 2018, 02:53:22 PM
well lawd!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 02, 2018, 11:00:09 AM
Arsenal and Spurs was :applause: Perhaps the Liverpool derby will bubble in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 02, 2018, 11:04:34 AM
Arsenal and Spurs was :applause: Perhaps the Liverpool derby will bubble in the 2nd half.

That was a hell of a game. It would be hard for anyone to top that today.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 02, 2018, 11:09:24 AM
Arsenal and Spurs was :applause: Perhaps the Liverpool derby will bubble in the 2nd half.

That was a hell of a game. It would be hard for anyone to top that today.

Ah wonder what Arsene thinks when viewing?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 02, 2018, 12:09:21 PM
Arsenal and Spurs was :applause: Perhaps the Liverpool derby will bubble in the 2nd half.

That was a hell of a game. It would be hard for anyone to top that today.

As it turns out ... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Anyone but Pickford.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 02, 2018, 12:14:29 PM
Arsenal and Spurs was :applause: Perhaps the Liverpool derby will bubble in the 2nd half.

That was a hell of a game. It would be hard for anyone to top that today.

Ah wonder what Arsene thinks when viewing?

The last time Spurs beat Arsenal at the Emirates was 2010. Wenger mostly had problems with the away games.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on December 08, 2018, 06:19:32 PM
chelsea crack d Mancity machine.....who da thunk after d recent performances.....but I happy we did good
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on January 13, 2019, 12:36:32 PM
Spurs and Man U jus play out ah humdinger De gea musse make bout 8 save with he foot, lawd have mercy.....top 4-6 jus got very interesting :worried: ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: soccerman on January 14, 2019, 08:00:11 AM
Spurs and Man U jus play out ah humdinger De gea musse make bout 8 save with he foot, lawd have mercy.....top 4-6 jus got very interesting :worried: ;D
That game was full of excitement, Spurs had a number of chances in the 2nd half but DeGea was in top form. ManU and Arsenal on level points now.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on January 29, 2019, 04:21:11 PM
Man u and City drop points today.......arsenal win......spurs chelsea and pool tomorrow...pool long wait might be over......city lacking dat ruthlessness dis year.

selfish note.....come on Leicester!! come on Watford!! and last but not Least come on Chelsea!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on January 29, 2019, 05:32:07 PM
oh yeah fergie time is back!! now is Ole time :bs:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 30, 2019, 06:14:56 PM
If allyuh think yesterday was wild. Today was even wilder. Liverpool draw with LC. Chelsea got hammered by Bournemouth. 4-0. Spurs scraped thru 2-1 past Watford. SouthH and CP tied 1-1.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on August 09, 2019, 01:52:22 PM
Norwich getting baptised right now 4-0 pool
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 09, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
Norwich getting baptised right now 4-0 pool

Even though Norwich were well beaten by 'Pool, underestimate them at your own peril.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on August 09, 2019, 06:14:23 PM
Norwich getting baptised right now 4-0 pool

Even though Norwich were well beaten by 'Pool, underestimate them at your own peril.

NAH norwich does actually try to play, dey had good moments, d early OG didn help them though
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 10, 2019, 02:06:58 PM
Rule Changes for the 2019/20 Premier League Season

https://www.youtube.com/v/QILWgO56skc
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on August 11, 2019, 11:28:13 AM
I think Frank made a mistake by not guarantee first team football to Luiz at least til january, Loiz is suspect, but he provides leadership more so than azpi...Chelsea lacked leadership today when the chips were down....they started well enough but well away
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 14, 2019, 08:25:46 AM
They better blow off this match now. We doh want to send Palace off de edge.  :devil:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on September 14, 2019, 12:13:14 PM
They better blow off this match now. We doh want to send Palace off de edge.  :devil:

meanwhile pukki and dem have city under manners :o ::) :P
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on September 14, 2019, 12:15:57 PM
......and as I spoke 3-2 late drama
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on September 14, 2019, 12:24:18 PM
Norwich this years wolves\big six banana skin going forward....perhaps ??? ???
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on September 14, 2019, 11:29:20 PM
Teemu Pukki !!!!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 05, 2019, 05:35:55 AM
Spurs is unbelievablw. After 3 mins down 1-0. Lloris lost his balance and dropped a crossed ball in front of BHA player.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 04, 2019, 03:10:15 PM
Sissoko is not having his finest game.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: soccerman on December 04, 2019, 03:11:17 PM
Sissoko is not having his finest game.
After that spectacular goal over the weekend?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 04, 2019, 03:18:13 PM
Sissoko is not having his finest game.
After that spectacular goal over the weekend?

Yep. Imprecise passing and being a tad hesitant. And he eh no where in that area of the pitch. He's not having a horrible game (he's had some telling interventions defensively) but going forward they're out of sync.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 04, 2019, 03:20:14 PM
Ah feel if Ole Gunnar loses this one, he's going home to pack.

I should add, it's 2-1 at 90' ;D.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: soccerman on December 04, 2019, 04:44:09 PM
Ah feel if Ole Gunnar loses this one, he's going home to pack.

I should add, it's 2-1 at 90' ;D.
He scrape through. Didn't see the game but did Jose get a hearty reception from the fans?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 04, 2019, 05:01:11 PM
Ah feel if Ole Gunnar loses this one, he's going home to pack.

I should add, it's 2-1 at 90' ;D.
He scrape through. Didn't see the game but did Jose get a hearty reception from the fans?

From what I've read, it seems that the fans were respectful. I tuned in about midway into the first half.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 26, 2019, 10:32:18 AM
Boxing Day football? Chelsea losing 2-0 to Southampton. They just can’t score.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 27, 2019, 04:50:26 AM
Liverpool has the midas touch. Unless they do a self capitulation, none of the teams below will catch them. But Klopp will have them under heavy manners.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 27, 2019, 07:21:20 PM
Anybody watched Wolves Man. City. 3-2 Wolves. Great friggin game.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Peong on December 27, 2019, 10:42:52 PM
Otamendi cyatspraddle all over the field for the last goal.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 28, 2019, 12:57:32 AM
Otamendi cyatspraddle all over the field for the last goal.

Benjamin Mendy was the ultimate culprit. There is a Trini football saying. " When in doubt boom it out".
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 29, 2019, 07:25:31 AM
Was just taking in a piece of the Old Firm battle in warm up for Arsenal vs Chelsea, when de stream went down. Rangers went ahead to temporarily bring them in reach of closing the 5 pt gap between them and Celtic, but then suffered a 'flukesy' equalizer. Who taking a bet? David Luiz to light up Lampard's headache with a devastating header to tief 3 points? Either that or he gehhin a red card.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 29, 2019, 10:10:28 AM
Textbook case of a GK being the villain. Leno opened the door to mashing up Arteta's three points from an unconvincing Chelsea. Steups.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on December 29, 2019, 11:24:44 AM
Textbook case of a GK being the villain. Leno opened the door to mashing up Arteta's three points from an unconvincing Chelsea. Steups.
woohooo!!! ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 01, 2020, 08:33:22 AM
Didn't see Chelsea today. Any better?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on January 01, 2020, 10:09:59 AM
Didn't see Chelsea today. Any better?
inconsistency continues, their nerves comes and goes, but usually dais not ah issue away, not today though they faltered a bit pressed well but didn't urn it into more goals then Brighton grew into it and equalized. to be fair dat bicycle ketch everybody
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 19, 2020, 11:23:46 AM
What a blazing🔥1st. half between Liverpool and Man United!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Cocorite on January 19, 2020, 11:26:07 AM
Yeah but the ref might as well wear a Poole Jersey
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on February 02, 2020, 11:15:30 AM
The VAR protocol needs to be reviewed in the off-season.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Flex on February 10, 2020, 12:10:34 PM
Net spend for Premier League top six, European giants revealed
Joe Prince-Wright (NBC Sports).


Net spend is so often a topic debated by fans and the focus is on the Premier League’s top six and European giants when it comes to who has spent and made the most cash over the last two transfer window.

The guys over at the CIES Football Observatory have focused on just that with their wonderful graphics which look at the money spent and acquired in terms of transfer fees.

When you focus on the Premier League’s top six there is a clear winner in terms of net spend but it is slightly skewed as Chelsea weren’t allowed to spend over the 2019 summer window due to their transfer ban.

Chelsea made $223.7 million, while Liverpool were way behind in second as they made $19.6 million. None of their other traditional ‘top six’ teams made a profit over the last two windows with Man City spending $88 million, Arsenal spending $92.7 million, Tottenham spending $153 million and Man United the biggest net spenders of the English powerhouses at $164 million.

However, the biggest net spending team in the Premier League over the last 12 months is… Aston Villa. The newly-promoted side have spent $184.4 million on new players as Dean Smith has totally overhauled his squad. It makes sense when you actually think about it but to see Villa’s name ahead of Barcelona and only behind Real Madrid in the list of the biggest net-spending teams in Europe is a shock.

Below are the positive and negative balances (prices are in Euros) for teams from Europe, with Chelsea, Benfica, Ajax, Sporting Lisbon and RB Salzburg leading the way.

As for the biggest spenders, Real Madrid, Aston Villa (!), Barcelona, Man United and Tottenham are top of that category.

(https://media.zenfs.com/en-US/nbcsports.com/0a3d672f3bf774aee5880a03c179a1f5)

(https://media.zenfs.com/en-US/nbcsports.com/18c9712ea2015d56e193c8a237789a13)

Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on March 25, 2020, 01:23:30 PM
Premier League stars launch Football United campaign to help local communities
By Jim van Wijk, PA
PA Media: Sport


England striker Callum Wilson and Arsenal defender Hector Bellerin are among a group of Premier League players to launch the #FootballUnited initiative, which aims to raise money for local communities impacted by the Coronavirus pandemic.

Manchester United full-back Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Chelsea defender Reece James and Crystal Palace winger Andros Townsend have also signed up to the campaign, which has a target of at least £100,000.

The proceeds will be collected by the National Emergencies Trust, with the money used to support elderly and vulnerable people affected by Covid-19, which has brought football on the pitch to a halt.

The campaign is being coordinated by Unique Sports Management, and a joint statement on behalf of the players involved read: “Football has such a big role to play in communities and our clubs are a huge part of people’s lives.

“Without football, we want to put our rivalries aside and show togetherness at such a critical moment for the country.

“These are uncertain times for communities, but as players we want to show some recognition for the incredible work that is being done for the most vulnerable.

“There are so many people at home who are afraid, alone and without full-time care.

“With the nation’s help, we can show our support to the many volunteers and organisations who need funds to make sure vital food and medicine supplies will continue to be delivered during the crisis.

“As players we would love nothing more than to be out there playing in front of packed stadiums again, but that can wait – the most important thing right now is the future of the country and #FootballUnited is our way of showing some community spirit.”

Chelsea manager Frank Lampard, meanwhile, has donated £10,000 to the Help Them Help Us appeal fund, which is looking into coronavirus research, setting up a 24/7 national psychological support service as well as ways to boost personal protective equipment for National Health Service workers during the pandemic.

The Coronavirus pandemic continues to impact cities all over the world, with millions of sports fans, old and young, advised to stay at home.

Manchester City have launched a programme of weekly phone calls to their elderly supporters. The club said in a statement the service would provide “a point of contact and a friendly voice to speak to over the coming weeks”.

Neymar Jr. Comics, backed by the Paris St Germain and Brazil forward, announced the entire library of more than 200 individual episodes across all titles of the comic and graphic novels, which are produced in different languages, will be made available free to view for the duration of the crisis.

Closer to home, former world light-welterweight champion Amir Khan has offered his newly-refurbished wedding venue to the NHS as medics battle to deal with the pandemic across the United Kingdom.

Khan has spent a reported £5million on redeveloping the 60,000 square foot venue in his home town of Bolton ahead of its scheduled opening this summer, but is now ready to hand over the keys.

Premier League club Brighton have decided to donate 1,000 tickets for future matches to frontline NHS workers and their families, with Bournemouth also investigating an initiative to pledge match tickets to key workers during the 2020/21 season.

West Ham have launched #HammersAtHome, a new online community initiative offering “support, assistance and regular interaction with the club’s fans” during the current crisis.

Norwich goalkeeper Tim Krul would have been expecting to face Manchester United in the FA Cup quarter-finals last weekend and be helping the Canaries’ on-going battle for Premier League survival.

The Dutchman has joined many players who are supporting club efforts to keep in touch with older fans and check on their wellbeing.

“I spoke to a lovely lady yesterday, she has her 94th birthday today. She didn’t have any milk, any bread and she was scared to leave the house,” Krul said on BBC Radio Norfolk.

“(It turned out) she was living six houses down the road from me, so it ended up being an amazing call… I was able to get some stuff to her.”

UFC star Conor McGregor has purchased 1million euros (£0.91m) of personal protective equipment to be sent to hospitals in Leinster, Ireland to aid in the fight against coronavirus pandemic.

The 31-year-old Mixed Martial Arts fighter had earlier made a plea for a total lockdown to help slow the infection rate.

McGregor posted his reply to a Twitter exchange with Ireland’s Minister for Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform Paschal Donohoe.

“Where we would be without these brave men and women, I do not know,” the ‘Notorious’ wrote.

“May God bless over them and keep them safe. We need more units on the street to enforce this lockdown Paschal. It has been too lax!”

Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on April 09, 2020, 12:03:15 PM
Premier League best XI: Ronaldo, Vieira, Lampard, but no Henry
Mark Ogden
Senior Writer, ESPN FC


Selecting an all-time best Premier League XI sounds easy, right? Over 28 seasons, since the competition began in 1992-93, there have been a host of world-class players and record-breaking achievements, as well as plenty of stars who have either shone briefly or others who have performed at the top for almost two decades.

Some have amassed a huge medal collection, others have won nothing, or won everything except the Premier League itself. Six clubs have lifted the Premier League trophy -- Manchester United lead the way with 13 titles -- and within all of those teams, there have been players who made themselves indispensable and became Premier League legends.

But only 11 can make a team, and some seriously great players won't make the cut. You can be certain that everybody will end with a different all-star XI, but here goes in a 4-1-2-3 formation.

GK: PETER SCHMEICHEL

Perhaps the easiest selection of them all. The likes of Petr Cech, David Seaman and Edwin van der Sar were huge figures during the Premier League era -- providing the foundation for a series of title wins for Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United respectively -- but none of them were as influential as Schmeichel at United.

The Dane was as crucial to United's dominance of the 1990s as Eric Cantona and Roy Keane, making as many match-winning or match-saving contributions as any of his teammates. He could throw the ball with pinpoint accuracy as far as he could kick it, and he intimidated opposition forwards with his presence and agility.

Schmeichel won five Premier Leagues, three FA Cups and a Champions League with United. No other keeper comes close.

RB: GARY NEVILLE

This was a tough one. Liverpool's Trent Alexander-Arnold is developing into one of the leading right-backs in the world at Anfield and the 20-year-old could yet become the best the Premier League has seen, but in terms of reliability, durability, longevity and success, Neville has to be the selection. The former Manchester United captain made his debut as a 17-year-old in September 1992 and played his final game in January 2011, making 602 appearances for Sir Alex Ferguson's team, winning 17 major honours including eight Premier League titles.

Defensively, Neville was a classic full-back, but he could also overlap and contribute going forward, albeit without the spectacular number of assists that Alexander-Arnold produces for Liverpool. If you want a full-back to make defending a priority, Neville remains the best.

CB: RIO FERDINAND

There have been many outstanding centre-backs during the Premier League era, with Virgil van Dijk maintaining that tradition in the present day with Liverpool. So why does Ferdinand get the nod ahead of Van Dijk, Vincent Kompany, Sol Campbell, Ricardo Carvalho and the rest?

The injury problems in the final years of Ferdinand's career have perhaps clouded the true picture of the former West Ham, Leeds and Manchester United defender. He had everything: pace, athleticism, the ability to burst out of defence with the ball, leadership skills and an underestimated toughness. He also won six Premier League titles and a Champions League; ultimately his medal tally should silence any doubters.

CB: JOHN TERRY

The best centre-back partnerships require a blend of silk and steel, and Terry was as tough as they come in the mould of defensive warriors. Nemanja Vidic, Jaap Stam, Martin Keown and Tony Adams could all fill this slot, but none of them can match Terry for longevity, with the former Chelsea captain performing for 19 seasons at Stamford Bridge.

Terry was brave to the point of recklessness, putting his head and body on the line, seemingly ignorant of the risks to his physical well-being when trying to keep the ball out of the Chelsea net. But as tough as he undoubtedly was, Terry was a great defender who could read the game as well as anyone. He was rewarded for his never-say-die attitude with five Premier League titles, five FA Cups, three League Cups and a medal for winning the Champions League in 2012, despite being suspended for Chelsea's win against Bayern Munich in the final.

LB: ASHLEY COLE

There have been three great left-backs in the Premier League era -- Denis Irwin, Cole and Patrice Evra -- but the Arsenal and Chelsea defender gets the nod ahead of his two rivals from Manchester United.

Liverpool's Andy Robertson may yet join the elite left-back club, but for Cole to edge out Irwin and Evra highlights the contribution he made to two great title-winning teams at Arsenal and Chelsea.

Cole was quick, tough and as comfortable going forward as he was defensively, where he rarely lost out to a winger. Ask Cristiano Ronaldo for his toughest opponent and Cole won't be far from the top of his list. He won two Premier Leagues and three FA Cups with Arsenal before adding another title and four more FA Cups at Chelsea, plus a Champions League and Europa League.

DM: ROY KEANE

Manchester United's captain during the most successful period in the club's history, Keane was the driving force of the team that dominated the football landscape for the best part of a decade.

Keane could do everything. He could tackle, score, create, inspire and intimidate. The image of the Irishman as a snarling ball of fury is not misplaced, but it can too often overshadow the reality of Keane as a player. During the peak years of United's rivalry with Arsenal during the late-1990s and early-2000s, Keane's midfield collisions with Patrick Vieira became epic encounters, with the two men defining an era. He won 13 major honours, including seven Premier League titles, during a 12-year spell at Old Trafford in which strode the stage like a Colossus.

MF: PATRICK VIEIRA

Some might argue that you cannot combine Vieira with Keane in midfield due to their similarities, but Keane's defensive discipline and ability to control the tempo of a game would dovetail perfectly with Vieira's box-to-box energy and attacking qualities.

Admirers of Steven Gerrard may feel that the former Liverpool captain deserves to be in any best-ever Premier League team, but as inspirational as he was, he could not claim a place ahead of Keane or Vieira.

Vieira had everything, and his impact at Arsenal can be measured by their lack of success since his departure in 2005, following nine fantastic years at the club. The Frenchman was the heartbeat of Arsene Wenger's 2004 Invincibles, but he was just as influential in their title successes in 1998 and 2002. A true Premier League great.

MF: FRANK LAMPARD

Perhaps the toughest pick of them all. With one midfield slot remaining, how do you leave out Gerrard, Kevin De Bruyne, Paul Scholes, David Beckham or David Silva? All would merit selection, but if you select one of those, you would have to leave out Lampard, and that would be overlooking his importance to the great Chelsea side built by Jose Mourinho.

Aside from the 11 major honours he won at Stamford Bridge, Lampard scored an incredible 177 goals from midfield during a Premier League career with West Ham, Chelsea and Manchester City -- more than the likes of Thierry Henry, Robbie Fowler and Michael Owen, who were all strikers.

His inability to gel successfully with Gerrard on the international stage with England tends to be the defining factor when Lampard is judged, but look at his medals and goals to get a fairer reflection of his quality.

CF: ALAN SHEARER

Shearer is quite simply the greatest goal scorer the Premier League has ever seen. He sits at the top of the scoring charts with 260 Premier League goals for Blackburn and Newcastle -- Wayne Rooney is second with 208 -- despite missing the best part of two seasons with serious knee and ankle injuries during the 1990s. And if you factor in the 23 top division goals Shearer scored for Southampton prior to the start of the Premier League in 1992, his strike rate looks even more impressive.

Shearer was the complete centre-forward. Physically, he could beat any defender and his goals came from close range, outside the box, from the penalty spot, and with his head, which is why he broke the British transfer record twice when signing for Blackburn (£3.6m in 1992) and Newcastle (£15m in 1996).

He may only have won one Premier League title, with Blackburn, but nobody comes close to matching Shearer as a Premier League goal scorer.

RF: SERGIO AGUERO

If Shearer is the obvious selection up-front, sifting the best from the rest is an almost impossible task. Just consider the options: Henry, Rooney, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Andy Cole, Dennis Bergkamp, Eric Cantona, Luis Suarez.

But one striker who tops them all is Aguero. The Manchester City forward surpassed Henry as the highest-scoring foreign striker in the Premier League this season, moving onto 180 goals, and he could yet become only the third player break the 200 barrier after Shearer and Rooney.

Aguero has won more for City than Henry won for Arsenal, and has now outscored him, so how can the Argentine be left out? And to seal his selection, Aguero can also claim to have scored the most memorable goal ever scored in the Premier League, with his title decider against QPR in 2012. With Shearer deployed as the centre-forward, Aguero would have to accept a role on the right of a front three, but his evolution under Pep Guardiola at City ensures he would still be a threat, wherever he plays in the front line.

LF: CRISTIANO RONALDO

The Premier League did not see the best of Ronaldo, but in six seasons at Manchester United, the Portuguese forward still left a lasting impact on English football before taking his career into the stratosphere with Real Madrid.

During Ronaldo's final three seasons at Old Trafford, United won three successive Premier League titles and reached two Champions League final -- winning one and losing the other -- and he was Ferguson's talisman.

In 2007-08, when United won the Premier League and Champions League, Ronaldo gave a glimpse of what was to come later in his career by scoring a remarkable 42 goals in 49 games. Henry and a young Ryan Giggs could also claim the slot on the left of a front three, but not ahead of Ronaldo.

MANAGER: SIR ALEX FERGUSON

The Premier League has seen some outstanding coaches and managers, with Wenger, Mourinho and Guardiola all building winning empires while Jurgen Klopp may be on course to doing the same at Liverpool. But no manager is in the same league as Ferguson, who won 13 Premier League titles, two Champions Leagues and 13 cups during his 27-year reign as manager.

Ferguson built a series of successful teams and saw off all managerial rivals. His only challenge with this team would be picking a captain.

SUBSTITUTES: Petr Cech, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Vincent Kompany, Paul Scholes, David Beckham, Eden Hazard, Thierry Henry.

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Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Tiresais on April 09, 2020, 04:01:09 PM
That team all sorts of shit. No Gerrard even on the bench? Henry was a better player than Shearer, although they are different beasts. Gerrard was better than Lampard IMO. Ronaldo wasn't that good when he was here - I get he's a world beater now, but he was replacable when he left Man Utd
Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on April 10, 2020, 03:56:27 AM
Yeah, I'm not sold on that squad, but it sells.
Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on April 22, 2020, 01:50:31 PM
Newcastle set to become the Premier League titan they have long threatened to be
Ryan Bailey
Yahoo Sports


They have had more botched takeovers than you’ve had hot meals, but Newcastle United appear to be in the home straight in their quest for new ownership.

British retail entrepreneur Mike Ashley has owned the Magpies since 2007, but has failed to develop a rapport with the Geordie faithful, due to a lack of investment into the team that has led to more relegations than successes.

Fans feel that he cares more about his controversial retail empire, and that he does not understand the club or its people. The supporters in the North East of England even resent the fact that he, and the people he put in charge at the club, are from the South of England. (Just like the north distrusts the elite south in “Game of Thrones,” the Geordies refer to their unpopular owner and his ilk as the “cockney mafia.”)

The perennially abhorred Ashley has tried to unload the club on several occasions, coming close to sealing an agreement with the Abu Dhabi ruling family last summer.

Ashley is undoubtedly one of the least popular owners in the game, but his unpopularity is likely to be eclipsed by the majority stakeholder in the Toon’s latest $375 million takeover deal.

If the deal goes through, the Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia will hold an 80 percent stake in the club, with 10 percent ownership going to financier Amanda Staveley and multi-billionaire real estate investors David and Simon Reuben.

Due to Saudi Arabia’s poor human rights record and multiple breaches of international law, their investment in Newcastle puts the hatred of Ashley into a new perspective. (After all, for his faults, the famously reclusive businessman has never committed a genocide in Yemen or murdered a journalist with a bone saw.)

Accordingly, Amnesty International condemned the takeover, in what may be seen as the legitimization of a murderous regime. It is completely reasonable to be concerned about the slow creep of soft power and illicit wealth into top-tier soccer — but it is also important to note that we as soccer fans have long been complicit in this unedifying charade.

Manchester City, Chelsea and Paris Saint-Germain fans are among those who enjoy the spoils of a team funded by ethically dubious sources. And in all the noise around the Newcastle takeover, it seems to have been forgotten that the Premier League already has a Saudi-backed team: Sheffield United are fully owned by Saudi Prince Abdullah bin Musa’ad bin Abdulaziz Al Saud.

Italian and Spanish Super Cups are held in Saudi Arabia, along with major boxing events and proposed Formula 1 races. This does not make Newcastle’s takeover any less controversial, but it suggests that it is possible for Newcastle fans to simultaneously couple a sense of concern with excitement for the future.

The change of ownership will make Newcastle the richest team in the Premier League — the Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia is worth a reported $393 billion — which gives them the potential to become the titan they have always threatened to be.

Newcastle is a one-team town, whose fans fill the 52,000-capacity St. James’ Park rain or shine, Premier League or Championship. The stadium is frequently cited as having the best atmosphere in the Premier League, but the incredible match-day experience stands in stark contrast to the team’s success.

The Magpies have not won a major trophy since the 1955 FA Cup.

They came closest to glory in the mid-90s, when they were within touching distance of winning the Premier League. In 1995-96, Kevin Keegan’s Newcastle side held a 12-point lead over rivals Manchester United by January, but still managed to finish second. Keegan’s unravelling was famously captured in a post-match interview, in which he proclaimed: “I’d love it if we beat them!”

Newcastle responded by breaking the world transfer record for hometown hero Alan Shearer in the following summer — for a £15 million (roughly $18.4 million) fee that seems quaint by today’s standards — but only managed to finish runner-up once again in 1996-97.

The Magpies’ greatest dalliance with continental glory came in the 1997-98 season, where they defeated a Barcelona side featuring Luis Figo, Rivaldo and Luis Enrique, courtesy of a Faustino Asprilla hat trick.

In the last two decades, however, the pickings have been slim when it comes to success. In Ashley’s 13 seasons at the helm, the club has only finished in the top half of the table twice. They have also been relegated twice — an unfathomable embarrassment for a club of their size.

Given the size of their fanbase and their stature in the modern game, Newcastle are easily the biggest underachievers in soccer. Many vaunted European sides bat below their average, but none come close to the Magpies.

But that script may be destined to change in the coming seasons.

With a considerable cash injection, at a time when rivals may be struggling to balance the books, Newcastle could invest in the kind of players who could live up to the tremendous roar that emanates from the Gallowgate on match days. Think Kylian Mbappe, rather than Joelinton.

Of course, it is possible that Newcastle’s new owners will hold the purse strings as tight as Ashley. After all, Sheffield United’s Saudi owners have not flooded the club with money, while Queens Park Rangers weren’t exactly Champions League contenders when they were majority-owned by Lakshmi Mittal, one of the richest people in the world.

But it is now possible for Newcastle to fulfill their destiny as a European contender. They can finally reward their long-suffering fanbase with the level of soccer that their unwavering passion deserves.

Perhaps the Premier League Big Six could become a Big Seven. Juventus may not be the only Champions League regulars in black and white. And the Premier League trophy might be engraved with a new name.

Newcastle will continue to receive bad press for welcoming Saudi money — and perhaps rightly so. But recent history has taught us that soccer fans are willing to overlook the involvement of dubious owners, poorly behaved players or unethically sourced financial resources if it equates to success.

In the modern game, it is impossible for any team to gain a seat at the top table of European soccer, among the “heritage teams,” without a large injection of cash. Newcastle already has the fanbase and infrastructure required to dine at that table, and if the takeover goes through, they will also be able to pay the check.

Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on April 29, 2020, 09:13:05 AM
'I'm still waiting for my commission!' - Berbatov reveals part he played in Martial's transfer to Man Utd
Goal.com


Dimitar Berbatov has revealed that Manchester United asked him for his opinion on Anthony Martial before signing the striker from Monaco in the summer of 2015.

Martial arrived at Old Trafford at the start of Louis van Gaal's second season in charge, completing an initial £36 million ($45m) switch from Stade Louis II.

More than a few eyebrows were raised when United forked out such a large fee for a relatively unknown 19-year-old, but he quickly silenced all doubters to emerge as one of the most exciting young talents in European football.

Martial scored a stunning goal on his debut against Liverpool, and went on finish the 2015-16 campaign as United's top scorer.

Fast forward four years, and the France international has 208 appearances to his name for the Red Devils, along with 64 goals, and he is now the first choice frontman in Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's starting XI.

Berbatov witnessed Martial's unique abilities up close at Monaco, and says he played a key role in the deal which saw him move to Manchester.

The ex-United centre forward told Talksport: "The United head scout called me, he was like: 'Berbs, we are looking at this kid Martial and wanted to ask what you think.'

"I told him this boy is unbelievable, the things he can do. He can be a great player, he just needs someone to guide him on the pitch. Of course, I'm still waiting for my commission!"

Martial has hit 16 goals in 34 outings for United in all competitions in 2019-20, having been trusted by Solskjaer to lead the line following Romelu Lukaku's departure to Inter last summer.

The 24-year-old overcame some early-season injury problems before marking his return to the first team with the all-important winning goal against Partizan Belgrade in the Europa League back in October.

Berbatov spoke out on Martial's fitness woes and confidence issues after that match, insisting it was vital for United to make sure that the Frenchman stays fresh for the remainder of the campaign.

"In the case of Martial, to get going again and get a goal will give him even more confidence, especially for a striker," said the ex-United No.9.

"But like any other player, the most important thing now is to stay fit, know when to push hard and slowdown in training because when you have so many games you need to know when to save your energy. The last thing he and the club needs is to pick up another injury."

Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on April 29, 2020, 02:08:17 PM
Why playing the remaining Premier League games might not be the fairest solution
Ryan Bailey
Yahoo Sports


Just over six weeks ago, the COVID-19 outbreak hit the Premier League head-on when Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta tested positive for the virus. Soon after, all other English top-flight games were suspended.

The Gunners were also the first Premier League club to return to training on Monday. Despite applying strict social distancing measures, there is a fear that such an early return could jeopardize plans to finish the 2019-20 season.

France’s decision to cancel the remainder of the Ligue 1 and Ligue 2 seasons casts further uncertainty on the EPL’s intentions. If no sporting events will be held in France before September, does it make sense to resume them right across the English Channel?

Maybe not, but it remains desirable, at least. Not only will it relieve the financial concerns of failing to fulfill TV broadcast contracts, but it will provide some much-needed entertainment for the increasingly frustrated and housebound masses.

Another notion has arisen, especially amid the fallout of the Eredivise cancellation: It’s crucial to finish the Premier League campaign for the sake of the league’s integrity.

Logic dictates that the fairest way to conclude the season — to crown a champion and decide the relegation candidates — is to play out the remaining game weeks. Hence, teams are planning to return to training, and contingencies are being set for matches to be played in a centralized location, behind closed doors.

Upon first glance, finishing all 38 rounds of the Premier League season seems like the fairest solution in these circumstances. But unfortunately, it’s wrought with issues.

To borrow from American football parlance, one of the key problems pertains to “strength of schedule.” Some teams have played more difficult schedules than others — and this would be fine, under normal circumstances. However, when the remaining games are likely to be played in a neutral location with no home support, the playing field is no longer level for everyone.

Bournemouth, for example, sit in 18th place and were scheduled to have three away matches at teams currently residing in the top six. Watford, who are one place above Bournemouth and equal on points, had no more remaining away games at top six sides. Hence, Watford have already played more difficult away trips, while Bournemouth might have an unfair advantage as their daunting road matches are now held in a neutral location, without a partisan crowd willing them to fail.

Furthermore, Aston Villa, who are 19th with two fewer points than both Bournemouth and Watford, have also played one less game than both clubs. Is it fair that they must play that extra game in the strange confines of an empty stadium? On the flip side of the coin, Aston Villa’s relegation opponents have had to face Liverpool away this season, which they are unlikely to do for their presumed game against the champions-elect.

Another issue stems from player contracts. Traditionally, European contracts run until June 30 — and any Premier League conclusion will now run past that date. FIFA have expressed a desire to extend those contracts, but it doesn’t mean the players, or their representatives, will have to accept them.

Take Liverpool’s Adam Lallana, for example, who may have one big contract left in his career. Will he extend his current deal by a few months, and run the risk of an injury which could prevent him from landing his final deal? A general lack of match fitness across the returning league may increase the chances of such an injury.

If teams can’t get all their players to agree to temporary contract extensions, they will be put at an unfair disadvantage. Sports lawyers may be champing at the bit for the inevitable contract disputes, but the outlook isn’t good for sporting integrity.

So if finishing all 38 rounds of the season isn’t entirely fair, what are the other options?

Ending the season now without declaring a winner is unsatisfactory. Particularly for Liverpool, who are in touching distance of their first title in 30 years.

It’s also unacceptable to end the season and hand out rewards (or punishments) as they stand, due to the aforementioned schedule issues. Sheffield United, for example, could climb into sixth place and European qualification if they win their game in hand. And Aston Villa have the game in hand that could lift them out of the relegation zone.

A slightly fairer mechanism may be to project each team’s final point tally using their current points per game (PPG). Sheffield United have a PPG of 1.54, which would put their final point tally at 58.4 points. Wolves, currently a spot above the Blades, have a PPG of 1.48, which would put their final tally at 57.8. Therefore, Sheffield United would leapfrog Wolves into sixth. However, the Blades wouldn’t jump above Manchester United in fifth place, as the Red Devils’ PPG puts them at a final tally of 60.5 points.

The PPG system has its advantages, but it still suffers from issues with strength of schedule. Additionally, it doesn't account for the late-season push (or slide) that can happen with teams due to pressure. Leicester in 2014-15, for example, won seven of their last nine matches to stave off near-certain relegation. Norwich are rock-bottom right now with the same amount of matches remaining — with six scheduled against teams in the bottom half of the table.

Ultimately, there is no fair way to end the Premier League season. And, of course, it should be noted that there are far higher priorities in society right now than determining soccer outcomes.

However, the idea that playing all the 2019-20 games will restore the seaosn’s integrity and give us a satisfactory conclusion is, unfortunately, far from reality.

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Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on April 29, 2020, 02:28:47 PM
Gerrard, Suarez lead Premier League nearly men who never won a title
Mark Ogden
Senior Writer, ESPN FC


When football returns, Liverpool will be just two wins from sealing the club's first Premier League title -- ending a 30-year wait that stretches back to the club's last domestic championship in 1990, three years before Manchester United emerged as champions at the end of the inaugural Premier League campaign in 1992-93.

Since then, a series of iconic players have tried and failed to clinch a Premier League winners' medal, with former Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard perhaps the biggest name of all to end his career without getting his hands on the Premier League trophy. Monday marks the six-year anniversary of Gerrard's infamous slip against Chelsea, which ultimately ended the Merseysiders' 2013-14 title challenge.

But Gerrard is not alone, so ESPN has selected the Best XI of players -- not including the current Liverpool squad -- who have graced the Premier League but failed to claim a winners' medal.

Goalkeeper: Brad Friedel
A tough one. All the great goalkeepers -- Peter Schmeichel, Petr Cech, David Seaman -- won at least one Premier League title, but there have been a number of ultra-consistent, long-serving keepers who would have been worthy of a winners' medal. Nigel Martyn, with Leeds and Everton, was close, but Brad Friedel racked up 450 Premier League appearances with Liverpool, Blackburn, Aston Villa and Tottenham, and the former USMNT No. 1's longevity was a mark of his class and reliability.

Right-back: Rob Jones
Although Rob Jones made 155 Premier League appearances for Liverpool during the 1990s, his story is one of what might have been due to a succession of injuries denying him the glittering career that many had predicted when he broke into the team as a 19-year-old -- 48 hours after signing from Crewe Alexandra in 1991, Jones was named man of the match after marking Manchester United's Ryan Giggs at Old Trafford. Jones had pace, awareness, the ability to defend and break forward and Liverpool fans still regard him as one of the club's best-ever full-backs.

Centre-back: Jamie Carragher
Jamie Carragher won nine major trophies as a Liverpool player, including a Champions League in 2005, but Premier League success eluded him during his 16-year career at Anfield. Although he also performed at full-back and in defensive midfield, Carragher was ultimately a commanding centre-half who blended toughness with the ability to read the game and lead from the back. Carragher made 737 appearances for Liverpool, which sums up his ability.

Centre-back: Marcel Desailly
This slot could have gone to Newcastle's Philippe Albert or Leeds and Spurs defender Jonathan Woodgate, but even though he arrived at Chelsea after his peak years with AC Milan in 1998, Marcel Desailly was still a hugely influential figure in the Premier League during his six-year spell at Stamford Bridge. The French World Cup winner was a rock at the heart of Chelsea's back four alongside Frank Leboeuf, where his physicality and game awareness made him an outstanding performer.

Left-back: Stuart Pearce
Leighton Baines has been Mr. Consistency at left-back for over a decade with Wigan and Everton, but to select the former England defender would be to overlook the quality of Stuart Pearce, who set the mould for the modern-day full-back at Nottingham Forest before going on to play for Newcastle, West Ham and Manchester City. Pearce, who captained England, was a ferocious tackler, but he also scored goals, created them and dominated every inch of his flank of the pitch.

Midfield: Steven Gerrard
You cannot overstate Steven Gerrard's status as a legend of the Premier League era. The Liverpool captain had absolutely everything as a midfielder. He could defend, attack, tackle, burst from box to box, score crucial goals and spectacular ones and, on many occasions, he inspired Liverpool to glory, never more so than during the 2005 Champions League final against AC Milan. He had everything except a Premier League winners' medal and, even now, that is hard to believe.

Midfield: Xabi Alonso
The likes of Paul Pogba, Javier Mascherano, Gustavo Poyet and Ruud Gullit have all failed to win the Premier League, but none have made quite the same impact in the division as Xabi Alonso, whose five-year stint at Liverpool ended in 2009 with just three winners' medals in the Champions League, Super Cup and FA Cup. The Spain international, who went on to enjoy great success with Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, was one of the best long-range passers of the Premier League era and was the perfect foil for Gerrard.

Forward: Gareth Bale
Gareth Bale has won four Champions Leagues with Real Madrid and a La Liga title too, but he never came close to a Premier League medal with Southampton or Spurs. The Welshman rejected Manchester United when he signed for Spurs in 2007, so it may have been a different story had he teamed up with Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney at Old Trafford. Not yet 31, Bale may still return to England win the Premier League, but he hasn't won one yet.

Forward: Gianfranco Zola
Gianfranco Zola was 30 when he arrived at Chelsea from Parma in 1996, with his best years seemingly behind him, but the Italian proved his doubters wrong during a seven-year stint at Stamford Bridge in which he became one of the most influential players in the Premier League era. Zola's professionalism and perfectionism influenced those around him, but he was primarily a match-winner, scoring 59 goals and assisting 42 during 229 Premier League appearances.

Forward: Luis Suarez
Luis Suarez will always divide opinion. A brilliant, talismanic goal scorer on the one hand and a magnet for controversy on the other, with the Uruguayan receiving lengthy bans for racially abusing Patrice Evra and biting Branislav Ivanovic during his three and a half years at Anfield. Suarez the footballer was outstanding for Liverpool, though, with 69 goals and 23 assists in 110 Premier League games.

Forward: Harry Kane
At 26, Harry Kane still has time on his side to win the Premier League, but he may have to leave Tottenham to do so. With 136 goals in 201 league games for Spurs, the England captain could be the key signing for a club with title aspirations, but he has yet to win anything in his career and the wait goes on. The slot could have gone to Robbie Fowler or Zlatan Ibrahimovic, but Kane could end up as the league's highest-ever scorer and not win the trophy.

Manager: Kevin Keegan

Kevin Keegan is remembered for one moment, above all others, as a manager -- his finger-jabbing, "I would love it" rant in response to Sir Alex Ferguson's so-called mind games during Newcastle's title run-in with Manchester United in 1996. Newcastle blew a 12-point lead and finished second that season, but prior to that, Keegan had revived a club heading for the third tier and built a hugely exciting team that became a Premier League force. Keegan was unlucky to be up against a United side at its peak. Otherwise, Newcastle would have won the title and history would have judged him and his team differently.

Substitutes: Pepe Reina (GK), Stephen Carr (DF), Philippe Albert (DF), Ruud Gullit (MF), Paul Pogba (MF), Steve McManaman (MF), Robbie Fowler (FW)

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Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on April 29, 2020, 02:57:16 PM
Broadcasting hike enables English FA to bounce back into profit
By David Owen (insideworldfootball)


New broadcasting deals enabled the Football Association to bounce back into profit while boosting investments in the English game by almost 30% to £165.6 million during the year to end-July 2019.

Of the additional £38 million pumped into English football, however, just £2 million went into the women’s game, with nearly half of the additional funding earmarked for increased FA Cup prize money. All told, women’s football got just £11 million, or less than 7%, of the £165.6 million total, versus £51 million that went to FA competition prize funds, £19 million to facilities, £17 million to county FAs and £25 million to other football organisations.

Newly-published accounts show that turnover for the year was up by nearly a quarter, from £375.5 million to £467.2 million, with broadcasting much the largest contributor at £262.6 million.

Sponsorship and licensing income, by contrast, was down quite sharply at £63.4 million, against £79.1 million. Events income edged up to £70.6 million, in spite of the ending of the Tottenham Hotspur tenancy, reflecting a good year for rock concerts and the staging of three American football games plus a boxing bout involving Anthony Joshua.

Operating profit surged to £62.8 million, against a £1.8 million operating loss the previous year. Pre-tax profit weighed in at £57 million, against a loss of £8.5 million.

The FA’s debt was restructured during the course of the year, with a term loan replaced, in effect, by a revolving credit facility. At the 2018-19 year-end, net debt stood at £126.4 million, up from £106.7 million. Year-end cash amounted to £39.2 million. There was a £23.7 million purchase of tangible fixed assets.

A statement accompanying the accounts by FA chairman Greg Clarke was dated November 2019, predating emergence of the coronavirus pandemic.


Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 05, 2020, 10:59:48 AM
Premier League: How to watch in USA (all times EST)

Matchday 29
Wednesday, June 17: Aston Villa v. Sheffield United, 1 p.m. NBCSN
Wednesday, June 17: Man City v. Arsenal, 3:15 p.m. ET NBCSN

Matchday 30
Friday, June 19: Norwich v. Southampton, 1 p.m. NBCSN
Friday, June 19: Tottenham v. Man United, 1 p.m. NBCSN
Saturday, June 20: Watford v. Leicester, 7:30 a.m. NBCSN
Saturday, June 20: Brighton v. Arsenal, 10 a.m. NBCSN
Saturday, June 20: West Ham v. Wolves, 12:30 p.m. NBC
Saturday, June 20: Bournemouth v. Palace, 2:45 p.m. Gold/Peacock
Sunday, June 21: Newcastle v. Sheffield United, 9 a.m. NBCSN
Sunday, June 21: Aston Villa v. Chelsea, 11:15 a.m.NBCSN
Sunday, June 21: Everton v. Liverpool, 2 p.m. NBCSN * Venue TBC
Monday, June 22: Man City v. Burnley, 3 p.m. NBCSN

Matchday 31
Tuesday, June 23: Leicester v. Brighton, 1 p.m. NBCSN
Tuesday, June 23: Tottenham v. West Ham, 3:15 p.m.
Wednesday, June 24: Man United v. Sheffield United, 1 p.m. NBCSN
Wednesday, June 24: Newcastle v. Aston Villa, 1 p.m. Gold/Peacock
Wednesday, June 24: Norwich v. Everton, 1 p.m. Gold/Peacock
Wednesday, June 24: Wolves v. Bournemouth. 1 p.m. Gold/Peacock
Wednesday, June 24: Liverpool v. Palace, 1 p.m. NBCSN
Thursday, June 25: Southampton v. Arsenal, 1 p.m. NBCSN
Thursday, June 25: Burnley v. Watford, 1 p.m. Gold/Peacock
Thursday, June 25: Chelsea v. Man City, 3:15 p.m., NBCSN

Matchday 32
Saturday, June 27: Aston Villa v. Wolves, 7:30 a.m. NBCSN
Sunday, June 28: Watford v. Southampton, 11:30 a.m. NBCSN
Monday, June 29: Crystal Palace v. Burnley, 3 p.m. NBCSN
Tuesday, June 30: Brighton v. Man United, 3:15 p.m. NBCSN
Wednesday, July 1: Everton v. Leicester, 1 p.m. NBCSN
Wednesday, July 1: Bournemouth v. Newcastle, 1 p.m. Gold/Peacock
Wednesday, July 1: Arsenal v. Norwich, 1 p.m. Gold/Peacock
Wednesday, July 1: West Ham v. Chelsea,  3:15 p.m. NBCSN
Thursday, July 2: Sheffield United v. Tottenham, 1 p.m. NBCSN
Thursday, July 2: Man City v. Liverpool, 3:15 p.m. NBCSN, * Venue TBC

Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Deeks on July 12, 2020, 10:19:47 PM
This weekend had some crazy football. Arsenal losing to Spurs. and Leicester City losing(imploding) against Bournemouth. Caspar was care-free with the goal kick that lead to the penalty. And Konguclou foul in the net, when Bournemouth scored the 2nd goal, was stupid. Red card for hi and will miss the next 2 important games. In the space of 5 mins, the coasting City went 2-1 down and eventually lost 4-1. Most hilarious 5 mins of football I have seen in a long time. Football is a cruel game.
Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on July 27, 2020, 01:00:21 PM
Grades for every PL team in 2019-20
Joe Prince-Wright
NBC Sports


It is that time again, time to dish out Premier League grades for each team based on their displays in 2019-20.

The season was long, longer than any in history, and a lot has changed since the season began last August.

Based on their performances on the pitch, decisions off it and where they finished, here’s a grade for all 20 Premier League teams.

Feel free to dish out your Premier League grades in the comments below as we go through the Premier League in alphabetical order.

Arsenal: C-
Rallied after Unai Emery was fired and Mikel Arteta was hired but there is so much for the young manager to sort out. Will Aubameyang and Lacazette stay? Do they have money to spend? How will they improve defensively? What the heck is going on with Ozil? Still, an FA Cup win to seal a return to Europe would rescue a horrible season, as Arteta’s side finished in eighth, their lowest position in 25 years.

Aston Villa: D
Saved themselves on the final day but this was not pretty. Sure, they can celebrate survival but Dean Smith and Aston Villa had a lot of quality players but never really looked like a team until the final two weeks. They had a few big injuries and Jack Grealish was good, but not amazing, for most of the season. Villa have to move a lot of players in and out this summer to avoid another relegation scrap.

Bournemouth: F
Eddie Howe’s side are much-loved but this season they were woeful. They stopped creating and scoring goals midway through the season and they continued to let them in. Callum Wilson’s goals dried up, the way Ryan Fraser’s contract running out was handled was awful and even though David Brooks was injured, would he have made that much of a difference? After a five-season fairytale stay in the top-flight, Bournemouth were relegated and Howe can have no complaints. Will he stay to try and bring them straight back up? Expect Ake, Wilson, Brooks and others to be sold this summer.

Brighton: B
What a job Graham Potter has done. Brighton are now a great team to watch, play exciting soccer and Potter has done that with largely the same squad Chris Hughton had. Pretty safe from relegation for most of the season and the likes of Maupay, Trossard and Connolly should be good next season. Potter was a gamble, but he’s worked his magic on Brighton (see what I did there…).

Burnley: B+
Sean Dyche once again proved he can organize a team on a shoestring budget and Burnley finishing in 10th was an amazing achievement. Dyche was angry towards the end of thee season as players left as free agents and he may leave this summer unless the Clarets start to spend more. Has he taken them as far as he can? Whatever happens, Dyche and Burnley once again punched well above their weight.

Chelsea: A-
Frank Lampard’s youngsters delivered a top four finish nobody really thought they could and they did it with swagger and a few slip ups along the way. Defensively fragile but sumptuous in attack, the likes of Mount, James, Pulisic and Abraham took their chances and now a new host of stars are arriving with Werner, Ziyech and maybe Havertz on the way. Lampard exceeded Chelsea’s expectations and if they can sort out their defense, they could challenge for the title.

Crystal Palace: D-
Pretty meh season for Palace. Roy Hodgson did what he does and turned them into a solid outfit but one win from their final nine games of the season is worrying. Wilfried Zaha didn’t turn up all season and wants out, so that’s a big offseason problem to sort out. Palace will want to kick on and that could mean moving on from Hodgson, who has done a fine job.

Everton: F
Just not good enough. Marco Silva was fired and Carlo Ancelotti hired and despite some glimmers of hope in the second half of the season, the same problems arose for Everton. Defensive mistakes cost them dear and they need a midfield enforcer. Richarlison can’t do it all on his own up top. With the squad they have they should be in the top 10, minimum, but 12th place wasn’t good enough. Ancelotti knows that and will demand wholesale changes this summer.

Leicester City: A
So, so close to a Champions League return. For the first half of this season it looked like Leicester would challenge Liverpool for the title. Then they imploded. Jamie Vardy won the Golden Boot and they finished fifth to qualify for the Europa League, but Brendan Rodgers will be disappointed with the way they crumbled in the second half of the season. They are a young team but it seemed like arrogance crept into their play.

Liverpool: A+
What can we say that hasn’t already been said? A first Premier League title and a first league title in over 30 years, Jurgen Klopp has delivered. His players were sensational and looked like they would go the entire season unbeaten and even though they didn’t, 99 points gained is remarkable. They smashed so many records and did it in style. Deserved champions and one of the best teams in Premier League history.

Manchester City: B+
Pep Guardiola’s men had an off season but still finished second. Defensively they were shambolic at times and not signing a new center back last summer came back to haunt them. Laporte being injured was one thing but Pep needs to upgrade his full backs too. Kevin de Bruyne was majestic and they could still win the Champions League. Man City will be up there again next season and having the Champions League ban overturned was huge for their future.

Manchester United: A-
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was delighted with a third-place finish, and rightly so, but he knows United are a long way behind Liverpool and Man City. Man United were superb in the second half of the season and Bruno Fernandes’ arrival was key to that. Defensively they’ve improved and Marcus Rashford, Anthony Martial and Mason Greenwood are electric in attack. If David de Gea can regain his form and United can bring in two or three quality additions this summer, they may just be back to being title contenders. Solskjaer is at the wheel and slowly but surely he’s turning Man United back on track.

Newcastle United: C
A very average season for Newcastle. Steve Bruce probably overachieved with the players he has and the delayed and controversial sale of the club to the Saudi Arabian royal family has been hanging over the Magpies. Defensively they are tough but they must improve going forward. Allan Saint-Maximin is a gem, while Miguel Almiron found his feet and Joelinton didn’t. Plenty of ‘Brucie Bonus’ wins but all in all, Newcastle did well to stay out of the relegation scrap. Bang average.

Norwich City: D
Didn’t have a chance from the start but still a really poor finish to the season. It was like Daniel Farke’s side gave up after hearing their manager say all season long they needed a miracle to stay up. Norwich never strengthened after sealing promotion and that is their model. The Canaries will be in the top half of the Championship next season and after a great start to 2019-20, they let their Premier League status slip away so easily. Lovely to watch, at times, but not hungry enough in both boxes.

Sheffield United: A+
Chris Wilder is up there as a manager of the year candidate. The Blades were brilliant and finished ninth in their first season back in the Premier League. Their European bid came up short after a tough restart period but their overlapping center backs and general tenacity should be applauded. Great at the back, not so great in attack, Wilder needs to add more firepower. If he gets it right then the Blades can eye another top 10 finish. Next season will be really tough.

Southampton: B
Ralph Hasenhuttl and Southampton deserve huge credit for turning their season around. After THAT 9-0 loss against Leicester City, the entire mood of the club changed. They have returned to being the plucky upstarts and their form from November onwards was majestic. Danny Ings banged in 22 goals and they regained their hunger and caused plenty of shocks as Hasenhuttl’s famed 4-2-2-2 high-pressing system is working a treat. 11th place finish this season, but can they push for Europe next season?

Tottenham Hotspur: C
Mauricio Pochettino being fired was a shock but probably needed as he had taken Spurs as far as he could. Jose Mourinho coming in was an even bigger shock but it’s working, sort of. Spurs have been grinding out wins since Mourinho arrived and had so many injuries to deal with. Harry Kane is back fit and scoring goals and if Mourinho can improve this defense, they will always have a chance of winning thanks to Kane and Son. Sixth place was fine, all things considered, and Mourinho will want top four next season. Will he get the money to do that?

Watford: F
Absolutely shocking. Four managerial changes in a season says it all. The ownership and players have to take a huge amount of criticism for the way the Hornets went down. Javi Gracia was fired, so too were Quique Sanchez Flores and Nigel Pearson, the latter with two games of the season to go after he had Watford within touching distance of safety. Watford’s owners have always hired and fired coaches but this was utter nonsense. Watford’s players were in a European hunt and in the FA Cup final last season and now they’re in the Championship. A hugely disappointing season. Can they recover quickly from this?

West Ham: F
Just about stayed up and this wasn’t pretty either. Manuel Pellegrini spent a lot of money and most of the new signings have failed to impress. The jury is out on Haller and Fornals, while Declan Rice and Michail Antonio were the only major positives. David Moyes being hired to save them from relegation for a second time worked, again, but West Ham massively underachieved. Is Moyes the right man long-term? Will he be given a chance to build something this time? West Ham should be a top 10 club but they have to get their recruitment right.

Wolves: B+
Another very impressive season for Wolves who finished seventh, again. They were in the top four conversation all the way until the end and are in the Europa League knockout rounds. Nuno Espirito Santo has done a magnificent job and with Raul Jimenez banging them in up top and Adama Traore dazzling on the wing, they scare so many opponents. Can Wolves keep hold of their star duo? That will be key to mounting another top four challenge next season.

Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on July 29, 2020, 09:40:35 AM
Newcastle set to become the Premier League titan they have long threatened to be
Ryan Bailey
Yahoo Sports


They have had more botched takeovers than you’ve had hot meals, but Newcastle United appear to be in the home straight in their quest for new ownership.

British retail entrepreneur Mike Ashley has owned the Magpies since 2007, but has failed to develop a rapport with the Geordie faithful, due to a lack of investment into the team that has led to more relegations than successes.

Fans feel that he cares more about his controversial retail empire, and that he does not understand the club or its people. The supporters in the North East of England even resent the fact that he, and the people he put in charge at the club, are from the South of England. (Just like the north distrusts the elite south in “Game of Thrones,” the Geordies refer to their unpopular owner and his ilk as the “cockney mafia.”)

The perennially abhorred Ashley has tried to unload the club on several occasions, coming close to sealing an agreement with the Abu Dhabi ruling family last summer.

Ashley is undoubtedly one of the least popular owners in the game, but his unpopularity is likely to be eclipsed by the majority stakeholder in the Toon’s latest $375 million takeover deal.

If the deal goes through, the Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia will hold an 80 percent stake in the club, with 10 percent ownership going to financier Amanda Staveley and multi-billionaire real estate investors David and Simon Reuben.

Due to Saudi Arabia’s poor human rights record and multiple breaches of international law, their investment in Newcastle puts the hatred of Ashley into a new perspective. (After all, for his faults, the famously reclusive businessman has never committed a genocide in Yemen or murdered a journalist with a bone saw.)

Accordingly, Amnesty International condemned the takeover, in what may be seen as the legitimization of a murderous regime. It is completely reasonable to be concerned about the slow creep of soft power and illicit wealth into top-tier soccer — but it is also important to note that we as soccer fans have long been complicit in this unedifying charade.

Manchester City, Chelsea and Paris Saint-Germain fans are among those who enjoy the spoils of a team funded by ethically dubious sources. And in all the noise around the Newcastle takeover, it seems to have been forgotten that the Premier League already has a Saudi-backed team: Sheffield United are fully owned by Saudi Prince Abdullah bin Musa’ad bin Abdulaziz Al Saud.

Italian and Spanish Super Cups are held in Saudi Arabia, along with major boxing events and proposed Formula 1 races. This does not make Newcastle’s takeover any less controversial, but it suggests that it is possible for Newcastle fans to simultaneously couple a sense of concern with excitement for the future.

The change of ownership will make Newcastle the richest team in the Premier League — the Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia is worth a reported $393 billion — which gives them the potential to become the titan they have always threatened to be.

Newcastle is a one-team town, whose fans fill the 52,000-capacity St. James’ Park rain or shine, Premier League or Championship. The stadium is frequently cited as having the best atmosphere in the Premier League, but the incredible match-day experience stands in stark contrast to the team’s success.

The Magpies have not won a major trophy since the 1955 FA Cup.

They came closest to glory in the mid-90s, when they were within touching distance of winning the Premier League. In 1995-96, Kevin Keegan’s Newcastle side held a 12-point lead over rivals Manchester United by January, but still managed to finish second. Keegan’s unravelling was famously captured in a post-match interview, in which he proclaimed: “I’d love it if we beat them!”

Newcastle responded by breaking the world transfer record for hometown hero Alan Shearer in the following summer — for a £15 million (roughly $18.4 million) fee that seems quaint by today’s standards — but only managed to finish runner-up once again in 1996-97.

The Magpies’ greatest dalliance with continental glory came in the 1997-98 season, where they defeated a Barcelona side featuring Luis Figo, Rivaldo and Luis Enrique, courtesy of a Faustino Asprilla hat trick.

In the last two decades, however, the pickings have been slim when it comes to success. In Ashley’s 13 seasons at the helm, the club has only finished in the top half of the table twice. They have also been relegated twice — an unfathomable embarrassment for a club of their size.

Given the size of their fanbase and their stature in the modern game, Newcastle are easily the biggest underachievers in soccer. Many vaunted European sides bat below their average, but none come close to the Magpies.

But that script may be destined to change in the coming seasons.

With a considerable cash injection, at a time when rivals may be struggling to balance the books, Newcastle could invest in the kind of players who could live up to the tremendous roar that emanates from the Gallowgate on match days. Think Kylian Mbappe, rather than Joelinton.

Of course, it is possible that Newcastle’s new owners will hold the purse strings as tight as Ashley. After all, Sheffield United’s Saudi owners have not flooded the club with money, while Queens Park Rangers weren’t exactly Champions League contenders when they were majority-owned by Lakshmi Mittal, one of the richest people in the world.

But it is now possible for Newcastle to fulfill their destiny as a European contender. They can finally reward their long-suffering fanbase with the level of soccer that their unwavering passion deserves.

Perhaps the Premier League Big Six could become a Big Seven. Juventus may not be the only Champions League regulars in black and white. And the Premier League trophy might be engraved with a new name.

Newcastle will continue to receive bad press for welcoming Saudi money — and perhaps rightly so. But recent history has taught us that soccer fans are willing to overlook the involvement of dubious owners, poorly behaved players or unethically sourced financial resources if it equates to success.

In the modern game, it is impossible for any team to gain a seat at the top table of European soccer, among the “heritage teams,” without a large injection of cash. Newcastle already has the fanbase and infrastructure required to dine at that table, and if the takeover goes through, they will also be able to pay the check.



Newcastle takeover on brink of collapse as Saudi buyers fail to 'satisfy' Premier League
Newcastle's hopes of a takeover after receding.
By UCHE AMAKO


The proposed takeover of Newcastle is reportedly in fresh doubt due to the Saudi-led consortium failing to provide the Premier League with clarity over the link between the Public Investment Fund (PIF) and the Saudi government.

It is over three months since Newcastle owner Mike Ashley agreed to sell the club to PIF for £300million.

It was hoped that the buyers would smoothly pass the Premier League's owners' and directors' test but it has dragged on for several weeks.

And the apprehension felt by those at St James' Park has grown with the Telegraph claiming PIF are 'struggling to satisfy' the Premier League over who the ownership hierarchy are and who the main decision-makers will be.

The report says that as it stands the deal is “gridlocked” as the Premier League wants greater clarity over the relationship between PIF and the Saudi government.

A source told the Telegraph: "As things stand there is no chance of the takeover progressing in its current form.

“The problem is this, the Premier League wants to know who will be running the club, who will have the final say on decisions, who will negotiate sponsorship deals and so on and so on.

“The PIF has the majority stake but the management structure does not seem to recognise that.

"The more questions that have been asked, the more muddled and confused it becomes. The Premier League is not satisfied with the answers it has been given.”

Speaking after Newcastle's final game of the season on Sunday, manager Steve Bruce reiterated the need for clarity and revealed he will hold talks with Ashley this week.

He said: “I also have a call in to Mike on Wednesday.

"It is important to tell everyone: he wanted to say well done to the staff and players for their hard work. It was good to hear from him. That was basically it.

“That [the takeover] is vitally important. We need clarity. You have to go to town on the Premier League.

"How long do you want? The club needs that clarity. Let's hope we can do that in the next few days, or week.

“I'm sure there is a shared desire to keep taking the club forward – everybody wants the club to do well.

"As I keep saying, we need some clarity about the situation with regard to the takeover because, if that’s not going to happen, we need to know quickly. That way, we can make sure it is business as usual.”

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Flex on August 20, 2020, 09:00:22 AM
Premier League 2020-21 key fixtures:

September 19 - Chelsea v Liverpool
September 26 - Liverpool v Arsenal
October 3 - Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur
October 17 - Everton v Liverpool
October 17 - Manchester City v Arsenal
October 24 - Manchester United v Chelsea
October 31 - Manchester United v Arsenal
November 7 - Manchester City v Liverpool
November 21 - Tottenham v Manchester City
November 28 - Chelsea v Tottenham
December 5 - Tottenham v Arsenal
December 12 - Manchester United v Manchester City
December 19 - Manchester United v Leeds United
December 26 - Arsenal v Chelsea
January 16 - Liverpool v Manchester United
January 30 - Arsenal v Manchester United
February 3 - Tottenham v Chelsea
February 20 - Liverpool v Everton
February 27 - Chelsea v Manchester United
March 6 - Manchester City v Manchester United
March 13 - Arsenal v Tottenham
April 24 - Leeds United v Manchester United
May 1 - Manchester United v Liverpool
May 8 - Manchester City v Chelsea
May 12 - Chelsea v Arsenal
May 15 - Chelsea v Leicester City
May 23 - Leicester City v Tottenham

Full Premier League fixtures for the 2020/21 season have been announced.

Saturday 12 September
Crystal Palace v Southampton
Fulham v Arsenal
Liverpool v Leeds Utd
Spurs v Everton
West Brom v Leicester City
West Ham v Newcastle Utd

Monday 14 September
20:00 Brighton v Chelsea
20:00 Sheffield Utd v Wolves

Saturday 19 September
Arsenal v West Ham
Aston Villa v Sheffield Utd
Chelsea v Liverpool
Everton v West Brom
Leeds Utd v Fulham
Leicester City v Burnley
Man Utd v Crystal Palace
Newcastle Utd v Brighton
Southampton v Spurs
Wolves v Man City

Saturday 26 September
Brighton v Man Utd
Burnley v Southampton
Crystal Palace v Everton
Fulham v Aston Villa
Liverpool v Arsenal
Man City v Leicester City
Sheffield Utd v Leeds Utd
Spurs v Newcastle Utd
West Brom v Chelsea
West Ham v Wolves

Saturday 3 October
Arsenal v Sheffield Utd
Aston Villa v Liverpool
Chelsea v Crystal Palace
Everton v Brighton
Leeds Utd v Man City
Leicester City v West Ham
Man Utd v Spurs
Newcastle Utd v Burnley
Southampton v West Brom
Wolves v Fulham

Saturday 17 October
Chelsea v Southampton
Crystal Palace v Brighton
Everton v Liverpool
Leeds Utd v Wolves
Leicester City v Aston Villa
Man City v Arsenal
Newcastle Utd v Man Utd
Sheffield Utd v Fulham
Spurs v West Ham
West Brom v Burnley

Saturday 24 October
Arsenal v Leicester City
Aston Villa v Leeds Utd
Brighton v West Brom
Burnley v Spurs
Fulham v Crystal Palace
Liverpool v Sheffield Utd
Man Utd v Chelsea
Southampton v Everton
West Ham v Man City
Wolves v Newcastle Utd

Saturday 31 October
Aston Villa v Southampton
Burnley v Chelsea
Fulham v West Brom
Leeds Utd v Leicester City
Liverpool v West Ham
Man Utd v Arsenal
Newcastle Utd v Everton
Sheffield Utd v Man City
Spurs v Brighton
Wolves v Crystal Palace

Saturday 7 November
Arsenal v Aston Villa
Brighton v Burnley
Chelsea v Sheffield Utd
Crystal Palace v Leeds Utd
Everton v Man Utd
Leicester City v Wolves
Man City v Liverpool
Southampton v Newcastle Utd
West Brom v Spurs
West Ham v Fulham

Saturday 21 November
Aston Villa v Brighton
Burnley v Crystal Palace
Fulham v Everton
Leeds Utd v Arsenal
Liverpool v Leicester City
Man Utd v West Brom
Newcastle Utd v Chelsea
Sheffield Utd v West Ham
Spurs v Man City
Wolves v Southampton

Saturday 28 November
Arsenal v Wolves
Brighton v Liverpool
Chelsea v Spurs
Crystal Palace v Newcastle Utd
Everton v Leeds Utd
Leicester City v Fulham
Man City v Burnley
Southampton v Man Utd
West Brom v Sheffield Utd
West Ham v Aston Villa

Saturday 5 December
Aston Villa v Newcastle Utd
Brighton v Southampton
Burnley v Everton
Chelsea v Leeds Utd
Liverpool v Wolves
Man City v Fulham
Sheffield Utd v Leicester City
Spurs v Arsenal
West Brom v Crystal Palace
West Ham v Man Utd

Saturday 12 December
Arsenal v Burnley
Crystal Palace v Spurs
Everton v Chelsea
Fulham v Liverpool
Leeds Utd v West Ham
Leicester City v Brighton
Man Utd v Man City
Newcastle Utd v West Brom
Southampton v Sheffield Utd
Wolves v Aston Villa

Tuesday 15 December
19:45 Arsenal v Southampton
19:45 Aston Villa v Burnley
19:45 Fulham v Brighton
19:45 Leeds Utd v Newcastle Utd
19:45 Leicester City v Everton
19:45 Sheffield Utd v Man Utd
19:45 West Ham v Crystal Palace
19:45 Wolves v Chelsea

Wednesday 16 December
20:00 Liverpool v Spurs
20:00 Man City v West Brom

Saturday 19 December
Brighton v Sheffield Utd
Burnley v Wolves
Chelsea v West Ham
Crystal Palace v Liverpool
Everton v Arsenal
Man Utd v Leeds Utd
Newcastle Utd v Fulham
Southampton v Man City
Spurs v Leicester City
West Brom v Aston Villa

Saturday 26 December
Arsenal v Chelsea
Aston Villa v Crystal Palace
Fulham v Southampton
Leeds Utd v Burnley
Leicester City v Man Utd
Liverpool v West Brom
Man City v Newcastle Utd
Sheffield Utd v Everton
West Ham v Brighton
Wolves v Spurs

Monday 28 December
Brighton v Arsenal
Burnley v Sheffield Utd
Chelsea v Aston Villa
Crystal Palace v Leicester City
Everton v Man City
Man Utd v Wolves
Newcastle Utd v Liverpool
Southampton v West Ham
Spurs v Fulham
West Brom v Leeds Utd

Saturday 2 January
Brighton v Wolves
Burnley v Fulham
Chelsea v Man City
Crystal Palace v Sheffield Utd
Everton v West Ham
Man Utd v Aston Villa
Newcastle Utd v Leicester City
Southampton v Liverpool
Spurs v Leeds Utd
West Brom v Arsenal

Tuesday 12 January*
19:45 Arsenal v Crystal Palace
19:45 Aston Villa v Spurs
19:45 Fulham v Man Utd
19:45 Leeds Utd v Southampton
19:45 Leicester City v Chelsea
19:45 Sheffield Utd v Newcastle Utd
19:45 West Ham v West Brom
19:45 Wolves v Everton

Wednesday 13 January*
20:00 Liverpool v Burnley
20:00 Man City v Brighton

*Matchweek 18 fixtures initially allocated to 12-13 January will be played across 12-13 January and 20 January 2021. The split of matches will be determined when the broadcast selections for January are announced.

Saturday 16 January
Arsenal v Newcastle Utd
Aston Villa v Everton
Fulham v Chelsea
Leeds Utd v Brighton
Leicester City v Southampton
Liverpool v Man Utd
Man City v Crystal Palace
Sheffield Utd v Spurs
West Ham v Burnley
Wolves v West Brom

Tuesday 26 January
19:45 Brighton v Fulham
19:45 Burnley v Aston Villa
19:45 Everton v Leicester City
20:00 Man Utd v Sheffield Utd
20:00 West Brom v Man City

Wednesday 27 January
19:45 Chelsea v Wolves
19:45 Newcastle Utd v Leeds Utd
19:45 Southampton v Arsenal
19:45 Spurs v Liverpool
20:00 Crystal Palace v West Ham

Saturday 30 January
Arsenal v Man Utd
Brighton v Spurs
Chelsea v Burnley
Crystal Palace v Wolves
Everton v Newcastle Utd
Leicester City v Leeds Utd
Man City v Sheffield Utd
Southampton v Aston Villa
West Brom v Fulham
West Ham v Liverpool

Tuesday 2 February
19:45 Aston Villa v West Ham
19:45 Burnley v Man City
19:45 Fulham v Leicester City
19:45 Leeds Utd v Everton
19:45 Sheffield Utd v West Brom
19:45 Wolves v Arsenal
20:00 Man Utd v Southampton

Wednesday 3 February
19:45 Newcastle Utd v Crystal Palace
19:45 Spurs v Chelsea
20:00 Liverpool v Brighton

Saturday 6 February
Aston Villa v Arsenal
Burnley v Brighton
Fulham v West Ham
Leeds Utd v Crystal Palace
Liverpool v Man City
Man Utd v Everton
Newcastle Utd v Southampton
Sheffield Utd v Chelsea
Spurs v West Brom
Wolves v Leicester City

Saturday 13 February
Arsenal v Leeds Utd
Brighton v Aston Villa
Chelsea v Newcastle Utd
Crystal Palace v Burnley
Everton v Fulham
Leicester City v Liverpool
Man City v Spurs
Southampton v Wolves
West Brom v Man Utd
West Ham v Sheffield Utd

Saturday 20 February
Arsenal v Man City
Aston Villa v Leicester City
Brighton v Crystal Palace
Burnley v West Brom
Fulham v Sheffield Utd
Liverpool v Everton
Man Utd v Newcastle Utd
Southampton v Chelsea
West Ham v Spurs
Wolves v Leeds Utd

Saturday 27 February
Chelsea v Man Utd
Crystal Palace v Fulham
Everton v Southampton
Leeds Utd v Aston Villa
Leicester City v Arsenal
Man City v West Ham
Newcastle Utd v Wolves
Sheffield Utd v Liverpool
Spurs v Burnley
West Brom v Brighton

Saturday 6 March
Aston Villa v Wolves
Brighton v Leicester City
Burnley v Arsenal
Chelsea v Everton
Liverpool v Fulham
Man City v Man Utd
Sheffield Utd v Southampton
Spurs v Crystal Palace
West Brom v Newcastle Utd
West Ham v Leeds Utd

Saturday 13 March
Arsenal v Spurs
Crystal Palace v West Brom
Everton v Burnley
Fulham v Man City
Leeds Utd v Chelsea
Leicester City v Sheffield Utd
Man Utd v West Ham
Newcastle Utd v Aston Villa
Southampton v Brighton
Wolves v Liverpool

Saturday 20 March
Brighton v Newcastle Utd
Burnley v Leicester City
Crystal Palace v Man Utd
Fulham v Leeds Utd
Liverpool v Chelsea
Man City v Wolves
Sheffield Utd v Aston Villa
Spurs v Southampton
West Brom v Everton
West Ham v Arsenal

Saturday 3 April
Arsenal v Liverpool
Aston Villa v Fulham
Chelsea v West Brom
Everton v Crystal Palace
Leeds Utd v Sheffield Utd
Leicester City v Man City
Man Utd v Brighton
Newcastle Utd v Spurs
Southampton v Burnley
Wolves v West Ham

Saturday 10 April
Brighton v Everton
Burnley v Newcastle Utd
Crystal Palace v Chelsea
Fulham v Wolves
Liverpool v Aston Villa
Man City v Leeds Utd
Sheffield Utd v Arsenal
Spurs v Man Utd
West Brom v Southampton
West Ham v Leicester City

Saturday 17 April
Arsenal v Fulham
Aston Villa v Man City
Chelsea v Brighton
Everton v Spurs
Leeds Utd v Liverpool
Leicester City v West Brom
Man Utd v Burnley
Newcastle Utd v West Ham
Southampton v Crystal Palace
Wolves v Sheffield United

Saturday 24 April
Arsenal v Everton
Aston Villa v West Brom
Fulham v Spurs
Leeds Utd v Man Utd
Leicester City v Crystal Palace
Liverpool v Newcastle Utd
Man City v Southampton
Sheffield Utd v Brighton
West Ham v Chelsea
Wolves v Burnley

Saturday 1 May
Brighton v Leeds Utd
Burnley v West Ham
Chelsea v Fulham
Crystal Palace v Man City
Everton v Aston Villa
Man Utd v Liverpool
Newcastle Utd v Arsenal
Southampton v Leicester City
Spurs v Sheffield Utd
West Brom v Wolves

Saturday 8 May
Arsenal v West Brom
Aston Villa v Man Utd
Fulham v Burnley
Leeds Utd v Spurs
Leicester City v Newcastle Utd
Liverpool v Southampton
Man City v Chelsea
Sheffield Utd v Crystal Palace
West Ham v Everton
Wolves v Brighton

Tuesday 11 May
19:45 Brighton v West Ham
19:45 Burnley v Leeds Utd
19:45 Everton v Sheffield Utd
20:00 Man Utd v Leicester City
20:00 West Brom v Liverpool

Wednesday 12 May
19:45 Chelsea v Arsenal
19:45 Newcastle Utd v Man City
19:45 Southampton v Fulham
19:45 Spurs v Wolves
20:00 Crystal Palace v Aston Villa

Saturday 15 May
Brighton v Man City
Burnley v Liverpool
Chelsea v Leicester City
Crystal Palace v Arsenal
Everton v Wolves
Man Utd v Fulham
Newcastle Utd v Sheffield Utd
Southampton v Leeds Utd
Spurs v Aston Villa
West Brom v West Ham

Sunday 23 May
16:00 Arsenal v Brighton
16:00 Aston Villa v Chelsea
16:00 Fulham v Newcastle Utd
16:00 Leeds Utd v West Brom
16:00 Leicester City v Spurs
16:00 Liverpool v Crystal Palace
16:00 Man City v Everton
16:00 Sheffield Utd v Burnley
16:00 West Ham v Southampton
16:00 Wolves v Man Utd

Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on September 09, 2020, 03:40:03 PM
TOP VIC
thesun.co.uk


Victor Moses has donated £20,000 to struggling former side Wigan Athletic.

The cash-strapped club is in dire straits after administrators were summoned in July, resulting in a 12-point penalty and relegation from the Championship to League One.

They are desperately looking for new owners to reverse their fortunes.

But in the meantime, a Supporters’ Club Crowdfunder page has been set up to raise cash and save Wigan from going under.

Former Lactics favourites including Roberto Martinez, Reece James and James McClean have all stepped forward with donations.

And now Moses has given £20k to the fundraiser in a touching gesture.

Wigan tweeted: “Thank you Victor Moses. Victor has pledged a significant donation to Save Our Club!”

The Chelsea wing-back, 29, starred for Wigan between 2010 and 2012.

Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: soccerman on September 10, 2020, 12:11:59 PM
 :applause: :applause: :applause: Respect Moses :salute:
Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Flex on September 16, 2020, 05:35:41 PM
Premier League calls on government to raise 1,000 fan cap and save football jobs
By Andrew Warshaw (Insideworldfootball).


The English Premier League has called on the government to rethink its plans on the proposed return of fans to stadiums in the wake of increasing Covid-19 infections.

While other European countries are already allowing a phased return of fans, test events in the UK have been put on hold, derailing plans for crowds to return from October 1.

If and when the policy changes, pilot events will be capped at a capacity of 1,000.

In a strongly-worded statement, which took many observers by surprise, the Premier League condemned the prolonged absence of fans and warned of the continuing economic consequences.

“With test events now capped at 1,000 supporters, we believe they will not provide any opportunity to properly test and evaluate measures designed to maximise fan safety,” the letter said. “At 1,000 supporters, not only would there be little to learn from a test event, but each match would be heavily loss-making.”

“For each month of the season without fans, more than £100 million is lost to football across the leagues, with consequent damage to the local and national economy. It also harms the employment prospects of more than 100,000 people whose jobs depend on match-day activities.”

Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Peong on September 26, 2020, 12:10:58 PM
West Brom have a Kittitian in midfield. Romaine Sawyers, I not familiar with the youth. He almost just now against Chelsea.
Title: Re: English Premier League Thread.
Post by: Deeks on September 26, 2020, 04:36:31 PM
West Brom have a Kittitian in midfield. Romaine Sawyers, I not familiar with the youth. He almost just now against Chelsea.

Saw him play today. Not bad. Did not know he was from St. Kitts.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on October 03, 2020, 09:19:50 AM
Has anybody checked out Carlo's Everton at all this season, dat team look like dey go be dismantling real opponents this year similar to Chelsea in 2010, Never forgave the Russian for letting Carlo go and in such a disrespectful fashion, Ray Wilkins too

Add: Everton v Liverpool go be ah must watch
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 04, 2020, 10:02:49 AM
Why is Lamela unsanctioned?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 04, 2020, 10:04:23 AM
Enjoyed Poveda versus Man City.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 04, 2020, 10:08:09 AM
 :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: The purge is on at Old Trafford.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Cocorite on October 04, 2020, 12:02:07 PM
:wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: The purge is on at Old Trafford.

I actually like the MU players. The backroom needs a purge  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on October 04, 2020, 02:35:09 PM
'pool get hit for 7 how d f**k i miss dat :D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 05, 2020, 03:41:39 AM
:wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: The purge is on at Old Trafford.

I actually like the MU players. The backroom needs a purge  ;D

Couldn't have happened against a nicer guy at a worse time is what OGS must be thinking.

I agree regarding the players. On balance, given the returns and the table, plus the dynamics of this particular loss, the technical staff will be under pressure.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 05, 2020, 03:52:16 AM
'pool get hit for 7 how d f**k i miss dat :D

So many things went wrong for them, yet Salah was Salah.  That's always encouraging.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on October 05, 2020, 05:23:05 AM
'pool get hit for 7 how d f**k i miss dat :D

So many things went wrong for them, yet Salah was Salah.  That's always encouraging.
dat dangerously high line being exposed badly this season. When cogs missing dat system vulnerable
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Cocorite on October 05, 2020, 11:11:41 AM
:wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: The purge is on at Old Trafford.

I actually like the MU players. The backroom needs a purge  ;D

Couldn't have happened against a nicer guy at a worse time is what OGS must be thinking.

I agree regarding the players. On balance, given the returns and the table, plus the dynamics of this particular loss, the technical staff will be under pressure.

I wonder if Liverpool's loss will eclipse MU's in the Media and buy OGS some time?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 05, 2020, 04:01:11 PM
:wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: The purge is on at Old Trafford.

I actually like the MU players. The backroom needs a purge  ;D

Couldn't have happened against a nicer guy at a worse time is what OGS must be thinking.

I agree regarding the players. On balance, given the returns and the table, plus the dynamics of this particular loss, the technical staff will be under pressure.

I wonder if Liverpool's loss will eclipse MU's in the Media and buy OGS some time?

OGS better get his D fence in order. Sancho, Sancho!!!. A good defensive mid-field and super stopper is what they need.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: soccerman on October 07, 2020, 12:29:43 PM
:wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: The purge is on at Old Trafford.

I actually like the MU players. The backroom needs a purge  ;D

Couldn't have happened against a nicer guy at a worse time is what OGS must be thinking.

I agree regarding the players. On balance, given the returns and the table, plus the dynamics of this particular loss, the technical staff will be under pressure.

I wonder if Liverpool's loss will eclipse MU's in the Media and buy OGS some time?

OGS better get his D fence in order. Sancho, Sancho!!!. A good defensive mid-field and super stopper is what they need.
The Glazers and Woodward should not be handling transfers. They need to hire a technical director.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Flex on October 11, 2020, 12:57:59 AM
Premier League goes pay-per-view with games closed for fans
By Rob Harris (AP).


LONDON (AP) — The Premier League is going pay-per-view in Britain for the first time in 13 years to broadcast some of the matches fans cannot attend due to the pandemic and to raise additional revenue for clubs.

Only 200 of the 380 games a season are contracted to be aired domestically despite global audiences being able to watch all of them live.

With coronavirus restrictions preventing fans attending games since March, the Premier League made every game in each round available live in its home market on Sky, BT, Amazon or the BBC.

But now that the government has halted moves to bring back fans due to a spike in coronavirus infections, the clubs have decided on a new temporary system to continue making all matches available live in Britain.

For half of the 10 matches in each round, viewers will be asked to pay an additional fee of around $20 to watch them on top of their usual subscriptions for Comcast-owned Sky Sports and BT Sport.

The Premier League is already generating 5 billion pounds ($6.5 billion) domestically in the 2019-22 rights cycle and 4 billion pounds ($5 billion) from overseas deals.

Friday's move by the clubs was condemned by one of the faces of Sky Sports, Gary Neville, the former Manchester United and England defender who is now a leading pundit.

“This is a really bad move by the @premierleague to charge £14.95 for single matches that have been shown free for 6 months,” Neville tweeted.

The Premier League said it was an “interim solution” so fans can still watch their teams live.

“The agreement will be regularly reviewed in consultation with clubs and in line with any decisions made by government regarding the return of spectators to stadiums," the league said. “Football is not the same without supporters at matches. The Premier League and our clubs remain committed to the safe return of fans as soon as possible.”

The Premier League last aired some games on PPV domestically from 2001 to 2007.

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 11, 2020, 02:32:46 AM
New normal, they better deal with it. But I will not be paying any pay per view for football.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: soccerman on October 14, 2020, 10:41:34 AM
New normal, they better deal with it. But I will not be paying any pay per view for football.
You get your peacock subscription yet?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Flex on October 15, 2020, 02:00:43 PM
New normal, they better deal with it. But I will not be paying any pay per view for football.
You get your peacock subscription yet?

https://www.facebook.com/stoppeacocktv/

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: soccerman on October 16, 2020, 09:55:58 AM
New normal, they better deal with it. But I will not be paying any pay per view for football.
You get your peacock subscription yet?

https://www.facebook.com/stoppeacocktv/
Nice one Flex :beermug:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 18, 2020, 09:53:31 AM
Dear West Ham Board and Fans,

After careful consideration, I submit my resignation.

I will not be entertaining any future coaching opportunities in the Premier League.

Sincerely,
David William Moyes.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: soccerman on October 18, 2020, 01:14:20 PM
Dear West Ham Board and Fans,

After careful consideration, I submit my resignation.

I will not be entertaining any future coaching opportunities in the Premier League.

Sincerely,
David William Moyes.
Epic come back though.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: soccerman on November 28, 2020, 09:06:45 PM
Leeds have been playing some entertaining football. They haven't been backing down from any opponent either. I know most of us on here mainly watch the top 6 clubs but checkout Leeds, you'll be in for a treat.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on November 28, 2020, 11:35:02 PM
Leeds have been playing some entertaining football. They haven't been backing down from any opponent either. I know most of us on here mainly watch the top 6 clubs but checkout Leeds, you'll be in for a treat.

I saw the game. They played well. Rafhina goal was superb. I don't know why people are underestimating Leeds. As a matter of fact, underestimate any premier league team on a given at your own peril. Even the cellar dwellers.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Flex on December 03, 2020, 03:28:13 PM
Premier League agrees £250m EFL bailout
James Olley
Senior Writer, ESPN FC


The Premier League and the English Football League have agreed a £250 million rescue package to help tackle the devastating financial impact of COVID-19.

Talks have been ongoing for months, in November the Department for Culture, Media and Sport arranged a Future of Football Round Table attended by key stakeholders with various aims including breaking the deadlock in negotiations, as revealed by ESPN.

An agreement was announced on Thursday in which the 24 Championship clubs will be given access to an interest-free £200m loan facility. The Premier League will pay up to £15m to secure the loan, which will be capped at £8.33m per club and must be repaid by June 2024.

The £50m deal for Leagues One and Two is broken down into a £30m grant handed to clubs based on lost gate receipts from the 2019-20 season and 2020-21 season.

Fans returned to EFL grounds for the first time in nine months on Wednesday, which is capped in alignment with the UK's coronavirus tiering system with restrictions determined by region.

League One clubs will receive a minimum payment of £375,000 while League Two clubs get at least £250,000.

The remaining £20m is available in the form of a "Monitored Grant" on a need-only basis with clubs given the chance to apply to a joint Premier League and EFL panel for access to funds.

EFL chair, Rick Parry, said: "Our overarching aim throughout this process has been to ensure that all EFL clubs survive the financial impact of the pandemic. I am pleased that we have now reached a resolution on behalf of our clubs and as we have maintained throughout this will provide much needed support and clarity following months of uncertainty.

"I would like to thank [chief executive] Richard Masters and [chairman] Gary Hoffman for their efforts on behalf of the Premier League, and of course their shareholders, for making this welcome, tangible commitment to the professional game at a time when it has needed it most."

Masters said: "The Premier League is a huge a supporter of the football pyramid and is well aware of the important role clubs play in their communities. Our commitment is that no EFL club need go out of business due to COVID-19.

"All football clubs continue to suffer significant financial losses as a result of the pandemic, but Premier League Shareholders today unanimously agreed to provide additional funding and support for EFL clubs in real financial distress.

"We are very pleased to have reached this agreement and we stand together with the EFL in our commitment to protect all clubs in these unprecedented times."

Meanwhile, as part of the pledge to promote equality and prevent discrimination in football, the Premier League has adopted the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's (IHRA) working definition of antisemitism.

Executive director, Bill Bush said: "The Premier League is committed to tackling any form of discrimination in football. Our adoption of the IHRA's working definition will enable us to be more effective in dealing with any antisemitic behaviour targeting our clubs or personnel. The adoption of the IHRA's working definition of antisemitism is the latest step in the Premier League's continued work to ensure that football is a welcoming environment for all."

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 02, 2021, 08:10:48 AM
The points table is insane.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 03, 2021, 11:10:00 AM
That 3rd City goal ... Sterling/De Bruyne. Hmm.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 04, 2021, 01:28:22 PM
The points table is insane.

What is so insane about the points table?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 04, 2021, 01:58:22 PM
The points table is insane.

What is so insane about the points table?

Even with four teams with two matches in hand, the one obvious revelation is parity further down the table than I think is typical. Certainly if you compare it to the points accumulation of the Scottish league, there is no argument. But even a glance at the Primeira Liga, Serie A, the Eredivisie and the Championship highlight the difference.

Ligue 1, the Bundesliga (sort of) and the Belgian league are closer to the spread in England - but still.

Match congestion and injury management/prevention are going to be intriguing things to interrogate as the season progresses.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 04, 2021, 02:50:07 PM
The points table is insane.

What is so insane about the points table?

Even with four teams with two matches in hand, the one obvious revelation is parity further down the table than I think is typical. Certainly if you compare it to the points accumulation of the Scottish league, there is no argument. But even a glance at the Primeira Liga, Serie A, the Eredivisie and the Championship highlight the difference.

Ligue 1, the Bundesliga (sort of) and the Belgian league are closer to the spread in England - but still.

Match congestion and injury management/prevention are going to be intriguing things to interrogate as the season progresses.

I will agree with you on that. The thing is, underestimate a bottom team at your own peril. Right now Southampton leading Liverpool 1-0. 'pool having more possession.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 04, 2021, 04:00:06 PM
Things are shaping up such that this Southampton victory will be a big part of the story at the end of the season.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: davyjenny1 on January 04, 2021, 04:41:38 PM
Happy for the victorious Southampton squad. Love when some underdogs defeat top teams; standings shape could be interesting as the season continues.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 25, 2021, 12:53:23 PM
Lampard got the axe. In professional sport, is not that you won a trophy last year. Is what have you done for me this year. Lennon, the Celtic coach is also on the brink.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/index.html

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 25, 2021, 12:56:21 PM
Happy for the victorious Southampton squad. Love when some underdogs defeat top teams; standings shape could be interesting as the season continues.

Yes, they are playing some good football. I like Southampton red uniform with the white diagonal sash across the front. The white uniform with red sash nice too. Would like to see the national get that design.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 25, 2021, 06:14:38 PM
Has anybody checked out Carlo's Everton at all this season, dat team look like dey go be dismantling real opponents this year similar to Chelsea in 2010, Never forgave the Russian for letting Carlo go and in such a disrespectful fashion, Ray Wilkins too

Add: Everton v Liverpool go be ah must watch

With two matches in hand, Everton could play devil takes the hindmost for a CL spot.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on February 25, 2021, 07:02:14 AM

The secret to Manchester City's success? 'We have a lot of MONEY', says Pep Guardiola as boss refreshingly admits their £2BILLION spending is the main driver behind 19-game winning streak

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9298571/Pep-Guardiola-says-secret-Manchester-Citys-success-having-lot-MONEY.html#comments

At least he is being honest.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Flex on March 24, 2021, 01:39:38 AM
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Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: soccerman on April 05, 2021, 11:35:49 PM
Jesse Lingard is rejuvenated and is putting in Messi-esque contributions. Top goal and build ups to goals vs Wolves.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Tallman on April 06, 2021, 11:13:42 AM
Jesse Lingard is rejuvenated and is putting in Messi-esque contributions. Top goal and build ups to goals vs Wolves.

I relly cyah believe you mention Lingard and Messi in de same sentence.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on April 06, 2021, 11:23:03 AM
Jesse Lingard is rejuvenated and is putting in Messi-esque contributions. Top goal and build ups to goals vs Wolves.

I relly cyah believe you mention Lingard and Messi in de same sentence.

To be fair he used the hyphenated "esque".
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: soccerman on April 06, 2021, 01:41:56 PM
Jesse Lingard is rejuvenated and is putting in Messi-esque contributions. Top goal and build ups to goals vs Wolves.

I relly cyah believe you mention Lingard and Messi in de same sentence.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: True, I should've compared him to Craig Burnley.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2021, 11:29:06 AM
Kun, Kun, Kun. Tsk, Tsk, Tsk. Leave Zidane moments for Zidane.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2021, 12:13:15 PM
Timo Werner must have spent a few weeks of offside training at the Jamille Boatswain School.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Peong on May 08, 2021, 12:49:49 PM
Aguero helping Man City make the decision in the off-season.  I like how Mendy catch it with one hand.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: lefty on May 10, 2021, 12:01:36 PM
Timo Werner must have spent a few weeks of offside training at the Jamille Boatswain School.
nah he eh boatswain bad, misreading d line and mis-timing yuh runs is one ting, but appearing to not even be aware dat offside is ah actual ting to d point of annoying yuh teammates so bad dat dey literally get vex and shout at yuh like yuh is ah unruly child is ah whole other ting
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on May 11, 2021, 03:37:45 PM
Ok, Ok, the Blue side of Manchester are the champions. :salute:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 23, 2021, 10:50:02 AM
Another frenetic last day. Excitement down to the last whistles. Serie A potentially will offer more of the same.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Flex on June 23, 2021, 01:36:23 PM
2021/22 EPL Fixtures

Friday 13 August
20:00 Brentford v Arsenal

Saturday 14 August
12:30 Man Utd v Leeds
Burnley v Brighton
Chelsea v Crystal Palace
Everton v Southampton
Leicester v Wolves
Watford v Aston Villa
17:30 Norwich v Liverpool

Sunday 15 August
14:00 Newcastle v West Ham
16:30 Spurs v Man City

Saturday 21 August
12:30 Liverpool v Burnley
Aston Villa v Newcastle
Crystal Palace v Brentford
Leeds v Everton
Man City v Norwich
17:30 Brighton v Watford

Sunday 22 August
14:00 Southampton v Man Utd
14:00 Wolves v Spurs
16:30 Arsenal v Chelsea

Monday 23 August
20:00 West Ham v Leicester

Saturday 28 August
12:30 Man City v Arsenal
Aston Villa v Brentford
Brighton v Everton
Newcastle v Southampton
Norwich v Leicester
West Ham v Crystal Palace
17:30 Liverpool v Chelsea

Sunday 29 August
14:00 Burnley v Leeds
14:00 Spurs v Watford
16:30 Wolves v Man Utd

Saturday 11 September
Arsenal v Norwich
Brentford v Brighton
Chelsea v Aston Villa
Crystal Palace v Spurs
Everton v Burnley
Leeds v Liverpool
Leicester v Man City
Man Utd v Newcastle
Southampton v West Ham
Watford v Wolves

Saturday 18 September
Aston Villa v Everton
Brighton v Leicester*
Burnley v Arsenal
Liverpool v Crystal Palace
Man City v Southampton
Newcastle v Leeds
Norwich v Watford
Spurs v Chelsea*
West Ham v Man Utd*
Wolves v Brentford

Saturday 25 September
Arsenal v Spurs
Brentford v Liverpool
Chelsea v Man City
Crystal Palace v Brighton
Everton v Norwich
Leeds v West Ham
Leicester v Burnley
Man Utd v Aston Villa
Southampton v Wolves
Watford v Newcastle

Saturday 2 October
Brighton v Arsenal
Burnley v Norwich
Chelsea v Southampton
Crystal Palace v Leicester*
Leeds v Watford
Liverpool v Man City
Man Utd v Everton
Spurs v Aston Villa*
West Ham v Brentford*
Wolves v Newcastle

Saturday 16 October
Arsenal v Crystal Palace
Aston Villa v Wolves
Brentford v Chelsea
Everton v West Ham
Leicester v Man Utd
Man City v Burnley
Newcastle v Spurs
Norwich v Brighton
Southampton v Leeds
Watford v Liverpool

Saturday 23 October
Arsenal v Aston Villa
Brentford v Leicester*
Brighton v Man City
Chelsea v Norwich
Crystal Palace v Newcastle
Everton v Watford
Leeds v Wolves
Man Utd v Liverpool
Southampton v Burnley
West Ham v Spurs*

Saturday 30 October
Aston Villa v West Ham
Burnley v Brentford
Leicester v Arsenal
Liverpool v Brighton
Man City v Crystal Palace
Newcastle v Chelsea
Norwich v Leeds
Spurs v Man Utd
Watford v Southampton
Wolves v Everton

Saturday 6 November
Arsenal v Watford
Brentford v Norwich
Brighton v Newcastle
Chelsea v Burnley
Crystal Palace v Wolves
Everton v Spurs*
Leeds v Leicester*
Man Utd v Man City
Southampton v Aston Villa
West Ham v Liverpool*

Saturday 20 November
Aston Villa v Brighton
Burnley v Crystal Palace
Leicester v Chelsea
Liverpool v Arsenal
Man City v Everton
Newcastle v Brentford
Norwich v Southampton
Spurs v Leeds
Watford v Man Utd
Wolves v West Ham

Saturday 27 November
Arsenal v Newcastle
Brentford v Everton
Brighton v Leeds
Burnley v Spurs*
Chelsea v Man Utd
Crystal Palace v Aston Villa
Leicester v Watford*
Liverpool v Southampton
Man City v West Ham*
Norwich v Wolves

Tuesday 30 November
19:45 Aston Villa v Man City*
19:45 Everton v Liverpool
19:45 Leeds v Crystal Palace
19:45 Watford v Chelsea*
19:45 West Ham v Brighton*
19:45 Wolves v Burnley
20:00 Man Utd v Arsenal

Wednesday 1 December
19:45 Newcastle v Norwich
19:45 Southampton v Leicester
19:45 Spurs v Brentford

Saturday 4 December
Aston Villa v Leicester
Everton v Arsenal
Leeds v Brentford
Man Utd v Crystal Palace
Newcastle v Burnley
Southampton v Brighton
Spurs v Norwich
Watford v Man City
West Ham v Chelsea
Wolves v Liverpool

Saturday 11 December
Arsenal v Southampton
Brentford v Watford
Brighton v Spurs*
Burnley v West Ham*
Chelsea v Leeds
Crystal Palace v Everton
Leicester v Newcastle*
Liverpool v Aston Villa
Man City v Wolves
Norwich v Man Utd

Tuesday 14 December
19:45 Arsenal v West Ham*
19:45 Brentford v Man Utd
19:45 Brighton v Wolves
19:45 Burnley v Watford*
19:45 Leicester v Spurs*
19:45 Norwich v Aston Villa
20:00 Crystal Palace v Southampton

Wednesday 15 December
20:00 Chelsea v Everton
20:00 Liverpool v Newcastle
20:00 Man City v Leeds

Saturday 18 December
Aston Villa v Burnley
Everton v Leicester
Leeds v Arsenal
Man Utd v Brighton
Newcastle v Man City
Southampton v Brentford
Spurs v Liverpool
Watford v Crystal Palace
West Ham v Norwich
Wolves v Chelsea

Sunday 26 December
Aston Villa v Chelsea
Brighton v Brentford
Burnley v Everton
Liverpool v Leeds
Man City v Leicester
Newcastle v Man Utd
Norwich v Arsenal
Spurs v Crystal Palace
West Ham v Southampton
Wolves v Watford

Tuesday 28 December
Arsenal v Wolves
Brentford v Man City
Chelsea v Brighton
Crystal Palace v Norwich
Everton v Newcastle
Leeds v Aston Villa
Leicester v Liverpool
Man Utd v Burnley
Southampton v Spurs
Watford v West Ham

Saturday 1 January
Arsenal v Man City
Brentford v Aston Villa
Chelsea v Liverpool
Crystal Palace v West Ham
Everton v Brighton
Leeds v Burnley
Leicester v Norwich
Man Utd v Wolves
Southampton v Newcastle
Watford v Spurs

Saturday 15 January
Aston Villa v Man Utd
Brighton v Crystal Palace
Burnley v Leicester
Liverpool v Brentford
Man City v Chelsea
Newcastle v Watford
Norwich v Everton
Spurs v Arsenal
West Ham v Leeds
Wolves v Southampton

Saturday 22 January
Arsenal v Burnley
Brentford v Wolves
Chelsea v Spurs
Crystal Palace v Liverpool
Everton v Aston Villa
Leeds v Newcastle
Leicester v Brighton
Man Utd v West Ham
Southampton v Man City
Watford v Norwich

Tuesday 8 February
19:45 Aston Villa v Leeds
19:45 Brighton v Chelsea
19:45 Burnley v Man Utd
19:45 Norwich v Crystal Palace
19:45 West Ham v Watford
19:45 Wolves v Arsenal

Wednesday 9 February
19:45 Newcastle v Everton
19:45 Spurs v Southampton
20:00 Liverpool v Leicester
20:00 Man City v Brentford

Saturday 12 February
Brentford v Crystal Palace
Burnley v Liverpool
Chelsea v Arsenal
Everton v Leeds
Leicester v West Ham
Man Utd v Southampton
Newcastle v Aston Villa
Norwich v Man City
Spurs v Wolves
Watford v Brighton

Saturday 19 February
Arsenal v Brentford
Aston Villa v Watford
Brighton v Burnley
Crystal Palace v Chelsea
Leeds v Man Utd
Liverpool v Norwich
Man City v Spurs
Southampton v Everton
West Ham v Newcastle
Wolves v Leicester

Saturday 26 February
Arsenal v Liverpool
Brentford v Newcastle
Brighton v Aston Villa
Chelsea v Leicester
Crystal Palace v Burnley
Everton v Man City
Leeds v Spurs
Man Utd v Watford
Southampton v Norwich
West Ham v Wolves

Saturday 5 March
Aston Villa v Southampton
Burnley v Chelsea
Leicester v Leeds
Liverpool v West Ham
Man City v Man Utd
Newcastle v Brighton
Norwich v Brentford
Spurs v Everton
Watford v Arsenal
Wolves v Crystal Palace

Saturday 12 March
Arsenal v Leicester
Brentford v Burnley
Brighton v Liverpool
Chelsea v Newcastle
Crystal Palace v Man City
Everton v Wolves
Leeds v Norwich
Man Utd v Spurs
Southampton v Watford
West Ham v Aston Villa

Saturday 19 March
Aston Villa v Arsenal
Burnley v Southampton
Leicester v Brentford
Liverpool v Man Utd
Man City v Brighton
Newcastle v Crystal Palace
Norwich v Chelsea
Spurs v West Ham
Watford v Everton
Wolves v Leeds

Saturday 2 April
Brighton v Norwich
Burnley v Man City
Chelsea v Brentford
Crystal Palace v Arsenal
Leeds v Southampton
Liverpool v Watford
Man Utd v Leicester
Spurs v Newcastle
West Ham v Everton
Wolves v Aston Villa

Saturday 9 April
Arsenal v Brighton
Aston Villa v Spurs
Brentford v West Ham
Everton v Man Utd
Leicester v Crystal Palace
Man City v Liverpool
Newcastle v Wolves
Norwich v Burnley
Southampton v Chelsea
Watford v Leeds

Saturday 16 April
Aston Villa v Liverpool
Everton v Crystal Palace
Leeds v Chelsea
Man Utd v Norwich
Newcastle v Leicester
Southampton v Arsenal
Spurs v Brighton
Watford v Brentford
West Ham v Burnley
Wolves v Man City

Saturday 23 April
Arsenal v Man Utd
Brentford v Spurs
Brighton v Southampton
Burnley v Wolves
Chelsea v West Ham
Crystal Palace v Leeds
Leicester v Aston Villa
Liverpool v Everton
Man City v Watford
Norwich v Newcastle

Saturday 30 April
Aston Villa v Norwich
Everton v Chelsea
Leeds v Man City
Man Utd v Brentford
Newcastle v Liverpool
Southampton v Crystal Palace
Spurs v Leicester
Watford v Burnley
West Ham v Arsenal
Wolves v Brighton

Saturday 7 May
Arsenal v Leeds
Brentford v Southampton
Brighton v Man Utd
Burnley v Aston Villa
Chelsea v Wolves
Crystal Palace v Watford
Leicester v Everton
Liverpool v Spurs
Man City v Newcastle
Norwich v West Ham

Sunday 15 May*
Aston Villa v Crystal Palace
Everton v Brentford
Leeds v Brighton
Man Utd v Chelsea
Newcastle v Arsenal
Southampton v Liverpool
Spurs v Burnley
Watford v Leicester
West Ham v Man City
Wolves v Norwich
* to avoid a clash with the FA Cup Final on 14 May

Sunday 22 May
16:00 Arsenal v Everton
16:00 Brentford v Leeds
16:00 Brighton v West Ham
16:00 Burnley v Newcastle
16:00 Chelsea v Watford
16:00 Crystal Palace v Man Utd
16:00 Leicester v Southampton
16:00 Liverpool v Wolves
16:00 Man City v Aston Villa
16:00 Norwich v Spurs

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: soccerman on January 31, 2022, 09:22:46 AM
Mason Greenwood's career could be in jeopardy before it really had the chance to take off....let's see how this plays out.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 31, 2022, 09:40:46 AM
This is really sad. It never stops. And it could be anywhere in the world. About 10 or 15 years ago when DC United was on top in the MLS, there was a very good Salvadoran player who got caught up in a very similar situation like this. I don't think he was found guilty but his career went south after that.  I am not sure what really happened but this is a lesson for all those athletes, rappers or young "millionaires" , don't let your dick dictate your brain.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 31, 2022, 11:04:44 AM
This is really sad. It never stops. And it could be anywhere in the world. About 10 or 15 years ago when DC United was on top in the MLS, there was a very good Salvadoran player who got caught up in a very similar situation like this. I don't think he was found guilty but his career went south after that.  I am not sure what really happened but this is a lesson for all those athletes, rappers or young "millionaires" , don't let your dick dictate your brain.
Since the pandemic started, there have been many cases of football figures facing the courts or being roped into intrigues (in England, Europe and beyond). From Mendy to the PSG women to Zseremeta to Paul Riley to Hubert Busby to Avram Grant to Botezatu to the Miami FC player to the Orlando City player to Sidy Sarr (Ligue 2).

Avram Grant is breaking news.

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 22, 2022, 02:58:06 PM
What a final day. Decided to view Manchester City vs Villa and it did not fail to entertain. Could have chosen one of the other matches - especially the Spurs match, but settled on watching the league's consensus best team. The highlight might have been Pep retreating to the dressing room for privacy.

A word on Arteta:  a lil more flexibility might have seen him secure the points that he was desperate to secure, but I empathize with him. In the end it took two managers to accumulate the points that condemned him to the Europa League.
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