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Title: English Premier League (EPL) Thread
Post by: Feliziano on July 26, 2006, 09:13:26 PM
alright people..season going to start soon.
I did see someone start a La Liga thread therefore let we see if we could keep all English football discussion under one thread so Tallman, Flex and dem other boy will have an easier time moderating.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: SUPA on July 26, 2006, 09:32:09 PM
Ah like de teams de boss (Yorkie) and Edwards going 2. Talk done.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on July 26, 2006, 10:46:31 PM
Dis EPL season go have little drama.  Arsenal go reduce it to a one horse race wit de ress fightin fuh de crumbs. 

Wit dat....is really only individuals go be gettin my interest.

Who Carlos Edwards end up playin wit

Obi Mikel wit Chelsea and how he do...if he get playin time

Theo Walcott and how much run he go get and wha kinda impact he go have.

How Ronaldo respond to de English fans and media

Oddah dan dat....ho hum.

Predictions....

EPL winners - Arsenal

Player of the Year - Thierry Henry

Young player of the year - Obi Mikel or Theo Walcott (dependin of course on how much run dem get)

Leading goalscorer - Craig Bellamy / Thierry Henry - tie



Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Tongue on July 26, 2006, 11:01:57 PM
good ting is only predicting yuh doing eh!...steupes
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on July 26, 2006, 11:08:24 PM
good ting is only predicting yuh doing eh!...steupes

Have to do it now.  Ah go be beezee nex 3 weeks... ;)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on July 26, 2006, 11:54:17 PM

Bellamy and Crouch go make a good attack.



season eh good start and you done talking shit already
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on July 27, 2006, 02:32:18 AM
I Can't see anyone other than Chelsea winning it, if they don't then possibly Arsenal. Top four in my opinion will be the same as this year.

The three teams that came up are the most likely to go down again, although watch out for an Aston Villa implosion, they are a club in crisis at the moment.

Top Scorer, Thierry Henry or Schevenko.

FA cup Winners the mighty PORTSMOUTH ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: dinho on July 27, 2006, 02:39:49 AM
Dis EPL season go have little drama.  Arsenal go reduce it to a one horse race wit de ress fightin fuh de crumbs. 

Wit dat....is really only individuals go be gettin my interest.

Who Carlos Edwards end up playin wit

Obi Mikel wit Chelsea and how he do...if he get playin time

Theo Walcott and how much run he go get and wha kinda impact he go have.

How Ronaldo respond to de English fans and media

Oddah dan dat....ho hum.

Predictions....

EPL winners - Arsenal

Player of the Year - Thierry Henry

Young player of the year - Obi Mikel or Theo Walcott (dependin of course on how much run dem get)

Leading goalscorer - Craig Bellamy / Thierry Henry - tie





Carlos going Watford...

Limited sweat for mikel, he go get some carling cup and fa cup sweat.. i feel lampard could see some bench this year too... essien and makelele rotating on the defensive mid position..

No sweat for theo walcott.. maybe a lil carling cup/fa cup here and there... english talent does rot at arsenal under wenger... pennant, jeffers, hoyte, bentley and the list goes on

Ronaldo go handle it fergie go protect him.. he handled it well in the world cup so he'll let his performances do the talking

Predictions....

Winners: Will come down to last 2 wks of season with Chelsea and Liverpool fighting for it...
Champs League: Arsenal and Spurs if they dont lose Carrick.. but arsenal need central defenders, senderos still shaky...

Leading Goalscorer: Henry or Sheva

Young player: Rooney if eligible, Van Persie
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 02:43:23 AM
I Can't see anyone other than Chelsea winning it, if they don't then possibly Arsenal. Top four in my opinion will be the same as this year.

The three teams that came up are the most likely to go down again, although watch out for an Aston Villa implosion, they are a club in crisis at the moment.

Top Scorer, Thierry Henry or Schevenko.

FA cup Winners the mighty PORTSMOUTH ;D
That must be the F**k All (FA) Cup Right? not the one Liverpool won last year :rotfl: just kidding.

Arsenal need some defenders(at least 2 centre backs) before they can compete for the top spot and one central midfield (yaya please ;D)

Seriously Cygan must be Wenger's Nephew or son from a one-night stand from back in they day because I don't why he has kept that man at the club.  :-[
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: redtrinigirl on July 27, 2006, 04:16:08 AM
Ok, in typical girl fashion, I talking bout clothes. Allyuh get any new kits yet?

What yuh think of the new Arsenal kit? Somehow it has a slightly 80's feel to it, don't yuh think? Still buying it though. Nike Town here I come.

And the Man U tops looking odd, not feeling like a Man U shirt. Dunno why.

Anyways, carry on. ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on July 27, 2006, 04:54:23 AM

Bellamy and Crouch go make a good attack.



season eh good start and you done talking shit already

well tell me which of the top 6 teams going to actually play with 2 out and out strikers and forwards?
Arsenal have only one forward who guranteed of starting; Man U going to play Rooney alone and maybe bring Saha on as sub; and Spurs will be picking their 2 starters out of Berbatov, Keane and Defoe, they might even play with all 3 with Keane deeper.
So tell me where i talking shit bout Bellamy and Crouch isnt a good attack..sorry but i ent consider a one man show an 'attack'.
maybe i shoulda say they would make an effective combination.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 05:06:41 AM
I feelin Arsenal..
But gotta be chelsea init..liverpool cud give em a good run for a bit
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: JDB on July 27, 2006, 05:12:06 AM
Man U going to play Rooney alone and maybe bring Saha on as sub;

How you making that prediction? You ever see United line up with Rooney alone up front?

As for the season, Palos is kinda right it is likely to be ho hum unless Chelsea implodes or somebody other than Umited steps up to challenge them. If they start off with ten straight wins or soemthig so and open a 8 or 9 point gap the league will be over.

It would be nice to see somebody give them a run and United could well do it but the  midfield still needs strengthening. Arsenal, Liverpool and United all in the same position right now, waiting for Chelsea to collapse before they could take advantage.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 05:16:34 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: dinho on July 27, 2006, 05:53:12 AM

Bellamy and Crouch go make a good attack.



season eh good start and you done talking shit already

well tell me which of the top 6 teams going to actually play with 2 out and out strikers and forwards?
Arsenal have only one forward who guranteed of starting; Man U going to play Rooney alone and maybe bring Saha on as sub; and Spurs will be picking their 2 starters out of Berbatov, Keane and Defoe, they might even play with all 3 with Keane deeper.
So tell me where i talking shit bout Bellamy and Crouch isnt a good attack..sorry but i ent consider a one man show an 'attack'.
maybe i shoulda say they would make an effective combination.

Chelsea going to 4-4-2 this year, sheva and drogba on top, salt for de wingers this year
Arsenal playing 4-4-2, henry and adebayor/van persie, 4-5-1 in champs league
Man utd playing 4-4-2 as always, rooney and saha/ruud??
Liverpool playing 4-4-2 for easy games, bellamy and crouch (i pray they buy another forward), and 4-5-1 for hard games with bellamy on de wing where cisse used to fill in...
Tottenham playing 4-4-2, Jol not brave enough to go 4-3-3 in de league so it go be Berbatov/Keane and more salt for Defoe on de bench
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on July 27, 2006, 05:57:07 AM
Ok, in typical girl fashion, I talking bout clothes. Allyuh get any new kits yet?

What yuh think of the new Arsenal kit? Somehow it has a slightly 80's feel to it, don't yuh think? Still buying it though. Nike Town here I come.

And the Man U tops looking odd, not feeling like a Man U shirt. Dunno why.

Anyways, carry on. ;D

take a look at Spurs new third kit

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com

not too sure about that ???
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 06:01:23 AM
Ok, in typical girl fashion, I talking bout clothes. Allyuh get any new kits yet?

What yuh think of the new Arsenal kit? Somehow it has a slightly 80's feel to it, don't yuh think? Still buying it though. Nike Town here I come.

And the Man U tops looking odd, not feeling like a Man U shirt. Dunno why.

Anyways, carry on. ;D

take a look at Spurs new third kit

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com

not too sure about that ???
It looks very plain but ok.... not a traditional tottenham kit

well I brought my new arsenal shirt last week  ;D

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h164/Garratnut/DSC00004.jpg)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 27, 2006, 06:23:59 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 06:28:23 AM
its alright i suppose.
i like the newcastle european strip :
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41918000/jpg/_41918972_ameobi203x152.jpg
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 06:29:03 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 06:32:29 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 06:33:54 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
lol

  :loser:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 06:37:28 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
lol

I am a loser
  :loser:

I know you are Jub02

Man U Fans! (Small Magician and others)

Do your really care if Van Nistelrooy leaves and if he leaves do you think you need a replacement?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 06:41:37 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
lol

I, Carib-briton(aka Fatass) am a loser
  :loser:

I know you are Jub02

Man U Fans! (Small Magician and others)

Do your really care if Van Nistelrooy leaves and if he leaves do you think you need a replacement?


Man U..my ass :rotfl:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: grskywalker on July 27, 2006, 06:45:16 AM
ALL yuh forgetting men like Dafoe, Davids and Lennon for Tottenham. Chelsea have a ridiculous line up of forwards boy pressure for everybody DROGBA AND SHEVCHENKO
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on July 27, 2006, 06:45:55 AM
Ok, in typical girl fashion, I talking bout clothes. Allyuh get any new kits yet?

What yuh think of the new Arsenal kit? Somehow it has a slightly 80's feel to it, don't yuh think? Still buying it though. Nike Town here I come.

And the Man U tops looking odd, not feeling like a Man U shirt. Dunno why.

Anyways, carry on. ;D

take a look at Spurs new third kit

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com

not too sure about that ???
It looks very plain but ok.... not a traditional tottenham kit

well I brought my new arsenal shirt last week  ;D

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h164/Garratnut/DSC00004.jpg)

will we be seeing that shirt at Fratton Park this season? Rain permitting of course ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 06:53:27 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
lol

I, Carib-briton(aka Fatass) am a loser
  :loser:

I know you are Jub02

Man U Fans! (Small Magician and others)

Do your really care if Van Nistelrooy leaves and if he leaves do you think you need a replacement?


Man U..my ass :rotfl:

Your an Idiot for real this time because you can't take a joke(in the other thread) and you do realise you typed the part where I'm ''meant'' speaking in your post section with is carib-brition loser business
You try but you just fail.
I'm done wid you my yute.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 06:56:49 AM


will we be seeing that shirt at Fratton Park this season? Rain permitting of course ;D

Maybe! Arsenal tickets have gone up this year so it maybe be worth it making more away trips to see the country a bit more!

Don't you just love the away pompey treat the away fans, uncovered terracing  ;D Rain or shine if I have the money I'll probably go. As long as the pompey mad men dont attack me  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on July 27, 2006, 07:02:11 AM


will we be seeing that shirt at Fratton Park this season? Rain permitting of course ;D

Maybe! Arsenal tickets have gone up this year so it maybe be worth it making more away trips to see the country a bit more!

Don't you just love the away pompey treat the away fans, uncovered terracing  ;D Rain or shine if I have the money I'll probably go. As long as the pompey mad men dont attack me  ;D

a lot of the home fans are in the Milton end as well, although hopefully the following season we will have the new ground and you Arsenal fans will be able to get all the prawn sandwiches need ;)

Always a good atmosphere when Arsenal are in town, Since Henry praised our fans there is always a big "We Love Thierry" feel to the game.

Just as well, cos we f**king hate Pires  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 27, 2006, 07:04:28 AM
Carib-Brighton...... um i am probably the biggest van nistelrooy fan..and it is hurting me inside that he is leaving..but i wish him the best and he will always be a united legend

and i was always thinking toress toress toress  but obviously he likes athletico and is staying put...  now we have rooney, saha, alan smith, solksjaer, and rossi...   they all sound like an excellent strike force... but i dont think that is a good enough strike force to win the league and challenge for CL....

but we will see...    looks like we are getting to Center mids    and thats what we need right now... Carrick and Javier Mascherano....   both play DM for their clubs but carrick could be used as a pure CM or AM... Mascherano... i think is very effitent  gets the job done but in a english style hard hitting way....  i think if man utd gets him  that will be a great buy...  carrick also....

its time to spend some of glazers money...

i want three players  Carrick..Mascherano... and i always wanted owen bt he is injured so i guess i would like to bring... defoe...  maybe man u could give spurs 25 mil pounds for both players  15 for carrick 10 for defoe

we will have to wait and see
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 07:05:53 AM
It say in the paper today Man U on the verge of getting Carrick and makin a bid for some argentinan defensive mid..
They offer 16 mil for Carrick and he alredy turn down a new contract at white heart lane


yeh jub....  looks like we are getting Carrick for 16 mil pounds and  corinthian officials are in united trying to finalize a deal for Javier Mascherano for 16 mil pounds also..


das real gud if we get both... after dat all we need is a new striker

at least u didnt mind that i didnt no the argetinians name . some ppl got vex with me for that
lol

I, Carib-briton(aka Fatass) am a loser
  :loser:

I know you are Jub02

Man U Fans! (Small Magician and others)

Do your really care if Van Nistelrooy leaves and if he leaves do you think you need a replacement?


Man U..my ass :rotfl:

Your an Idiot for real this time because you can't take a joke(in the other thread) and you do realise you typed the part where I'm ''meant'' speaking in your post section with is carib-brition loser business
You try but you just fail.
I'm done wid you my yute.

I know.....but i didnt no this was serious buisness. God man wen u got vex u serch thru every little thing and comment about it so u can win some sort of notorious battle..it a message board!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 07:10:01 AM
Carib-Brighton...... um i am probably the biggest van nistelrooy fan..and it is hurting me inside that he is leaving..but i wish him the best and he will always be a united legend

and i was always thinking toress toress toress  but obviously he likes athletico and is staying put...  now we have rooney, saha, alan smith, solksjaer, and rossi...   they all sound like an excellent strike force... but i dont think that is a good enough strike force to win the league and challenge for CL....

but we will see...    looks like we are getting to Center mids    and thats what we need right now... Carrick and Javier Mascherano....   both play DM for their clubs but carrick could be used as a pure CM or AM... Mascherano... i think is very effitent  gets the job done but in a english style hard hitting way....  i think if man utd gets him  that will be a great buy...  carrick also....

its time to spend some of glazes money...

i want three players  Carrick..Mascherano... and i always wanted owen bt he is injured so i guess i would like to bring... defoe...  maybe man u could give spurs 25 mil pounds for both players  15 for carrick 10 for defoe

we will have to wait and see

See I what you would like that red devils and Big up Carib-Brighton I've always loved that poster. ;)

Someone needs to get Anelka I would say Man U but I dont see that happening, Arsenal might be sorting out their Defensive problem soon hopefully
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 07:11:31 AM


I know.....but i didnt no this was serious buisness. God man wen u got vex u serch thru every little thing and comment about it so u can win some sort of notorious battle..it a message board!
Jub02 be quiet now on this topic please, you were getting upset about because you were complaing in the other and you tell me his message board crap. As I've said before you real naive. Done It.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 27, 2006, 07:25:24 AM

well tell me which of the top 6 teams going to actually play with 2 out and out strikers and forwards?
Arsenal have only one forward who guranteed of starting; Man U going to play Rooney alone and maybe bring Saha on as sub; and Spurs will be picking their 2 starters out of Berbatov, Keane and Defoe, they might even play with all 3 with Keane deeper.
So tell me where i talking shit bout Bellamy and Crouch isnt a good attack..sorry but i ent consider a one man show an 'attack'.
maybe i shoulda say they would make an effective combination.

ManU playing with 2 strikers, Rooney and one other : Rooney already prove he cah play as a lone striker. Unless they playing the 3-3-4 still, with Ronaldo and Roony on the flanks and Saha (or some new striker they might buy) going through the middle.

Spurs playing 2 strikers, Liverpool playing 2 strikers, Chelsea SAY they playing 2 strikers, but that will change once they realise they not running away with the title this year. Is only Arsenal who might play with Henry alone and have men running in from midfield, but with Pires gone I feel Walcott and Adebayor will be lining up a lot more to give Henry support. Not to mention van Persie looking like the real deal now!

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 27, 2006, 07:26:45 AM
The EPL this year...
Liverpool will be the team to unseat Chelsea, but only if Fowler and Bellamy get to play together regularly but both are injury prone so we will see. Benitez is a master tactician and now they have the wingers he crying for since he reach.

Spurs cracking into the top 4, possibly 3, Martin Jol is a good coach and man manager, once he could juggle his midfiel properly. Carrick leaving might actually help them cause he have real other midfielders there with talent and Carrick was the only man guaranteed every game.

I not writing off Man U cause when they under stress and duress, is when they like to prove people wrong.

Arsenal...well it depends on how much of a dffernce Walcott make cause Henry carry them on his back last year. That have to take a toll on a player sometime,but Wenger is a boss at finding young players and turning them into world beaters so u never know which one of them players might be a match winner this year for Arsenal.

Beloved Newcastle to come 6th and make a run in Europe and grab the League Cup.

City and Everton to have good seasons and West Ham to have a difficult one after last year.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 27, 2006, 07:30:23 AM

well tell me which of the top 6 teams going to actually play with 2 out and out strikers and forwards?
Arsenal have only one forward who guranteed of starting; Man U going to play Rooney alone and maybe bring Saha on as sub; and Spurs will be picking their 2 starters out of Berbatov, Keane and Defoe, they might even play with all 3 with Keane deeper.
So tell me where i talking shit bout Bellamy and Crouch isnt a good attack..sorry but i ent consider a one man show an 'attack'.
maybe i shoulda say they would make an effective combination.

ManU playing with 2 strikers, Rooney and one other : Rooney already prove he cah play as a lone striker. Unless they playing the 3-3-4 still, with Ronaldo and Roony on the flanks and Saha (or some new striker they might buy) going through the middle.

Spurs playing 2 strikers, Liverpool playing 2 strikers, Chelsea SAY they playing 2 strikers, but that will change once they realise they not running away with the title this year. Is only Arsenal who might play with Henry alone and have men running in from midfield, but with Pires gone I feel Walcott and Adebayor will be lining up a lot more to give Henry support. Not to mention van Persie looking like the real deal now!


That post just shows how good the prem is going to be next year, very good. I have my worries about Arsenal though.

West Ham (England C team ;D) will causes teams problems and Spurs (Yidos/Scum/england A/B team  ;D) are building their team well buy every single english player that shows a bit of potential, soon we will be seeing 8 year olds lining up for tottenham because they scored with their rear end against bunch of big ole men.

Liverpool just signed Pennant and have got gonalzes, nuff competition in their side expect for up front.

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 27, 2006, 07:42:49 AM
The EPL this year...
Liverpool will be the team to unseat Chelsea, but only if Fowler and Bellamy get to play together regularly but both are injury prone so we will see. Benitez is a master tactician and now they have the wingers he crying for since he reach.

Spurs cracking into the top 4, possibly 3, Martin Jol is a good coach and man manager, once he could juggle his midfiel properly. Carrick leaving might actually help them cause he have re
I not writing off Man U cause when they under stress and duress, is when they like to prove people wrong.

Arsenal...well it depends on how much of a dffernce Walcott make cause Henry carry them on his back last year. That have to take a toll on a player sometime,but Wenger is a boss at finding young players and turning them into world beaters so u never know which one of them players might be a match winner this year for Arsenal.

Beloved Newcastle to come 6th and make a run in Europe and grab the League Cup.  ;D ;D

City and Everton to have good seasons and West Ham to have a difficult one after last year.

here here :beermug:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on July 27, 2006, 07:45:28 AM
Carib-Brighton...... um i am probably the biggest van nistelrooy fan..and it is hurting me inside that he is leaving..but i wish him the best and he will always be a united legend

and i was always thinking toress toress toress  but obviously he likes athletico and is staying put...  now we have rooney, saha, alan smith, solksjaer, and rossi...   they all sound like an excellent strike force... but i dont think that is a good enough strike force to win the league and challenge for CL....

but we will see...    looks like we are getting to Center mids    and thats what we need right now... Carrick and Javier Mascherano....   both play DM for their clubs but carrick could be used as a pure CM or AM... Mascherano... i think is very effitent  gets the job done but in a english style hard hitting way....  i think if man utd gets him  that will be a great buy...  carrick also....

its time to spend some of glazes money...

i want three players  Carrick..Mascherano... and i always wanted owen bt he is injured so i guess i would like to bring... defoe...  maybe man u could give spurs 25 mil pounds for both players  15 for carrick 10 for defoe

we will have to wait and see

See I what you would like that red devils and Big up Carib-Brighton I've always loved that poster. ;)

Someone needs to get Anelka I would say Man U but I dont see that happening, Arsenal might be sorting out their Defensive problem soon hopefully

Maybe he thinks you spend a lot of time in Brighton :whistling:

Liverpool have now signed Bellamy and Pennant. I guess that means the magistrates in Liverpool will be even busier next season  ;D

I think Bellamy will really set the EPL alight now he is there and if he stays fit, Liverpool will be Chelsea's main rival.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Remie on July 27, 2006, 07:47:04 AM
Carib-Brighton...... um i am probably the biggest van nistelrooy fan..and it is hurting me inside that he is leaving..but i wish him the best and he will always be a united legend

and i was always thinking toress toress toress  but obviously he likes athletico and is staying put...  now we have rooney, saha, alan smith, solksjaer, and rossi...   they all sound like an excellent strike force... but i dont think that is a good enough strike force to win the league and challenge for CL....

but we will see...    looks like we are getting to Center mids    and thats what we need right now... Carrick and Javier Mascherano....   both play DM for their clubs but carrick could be used as a pure CM or AM... Mascherano... i think is very effitent  gets the job done but in a english style hard hitting way....  i think if man utd gets him  that will be a great buy...  carrick also....

its time to spend some of glazers money...

i want three players  Carrick..Mascherano... and i always wanted owen bt he is injured so i guess i would like to bring... defoe...  maybe man u could give spurs 25 mil pounds for both players  15 for carrick 10 for defoe

we will have to wait and see

Small Magician I agree with you about not playing Carrick as a defensive/holding midfielder.

As a Spurs supporter having had the whole season to judge him, I can tell you he is a special talent. Players like him do not come along very often. The range of passing, the vision, the time on the ball he seems to have shows his class. The problem Carrick may have if that his current and future managers may play him out of position- i.e. and a defensive/holding midfielder. That is not his best position. He is not a natural ball winner, he is a creative player. Carrick’s ideal position is the role in which Pirlo played for Italy just in front of Gattuso. That is why I would love him to stay at Spurs to play just in front of Zokora. That would be a boss central midfield. Zokora pace and athleticism and Carrick’s creativity would be perfect. If he does go to Man U I just hope Fergie doesn’t waste his talent.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 27, 2006, 08:32:49 AM
i hear ya.....  but if fergie is trying to get both Carrick and Javier Mascherano  obviously Carrick will be used as the playmaker...    Scholes Carrick and Mascherano will all rotate throughout the season in CM
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 27, 2006, 08:40:03 AM
Doh let Fergie fool allyuh...it have no rotation policy at ManU. I sure everybody here could name the starting 4-4-2 for the treble winning season. Rotation is just a excuse to bench men when they start to figure they irreplaceable and to give the youngsters a rest.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: lickslikefire on July 27, 2006, 09:32:13 AM
The EPL this year...
Liverpool will be the team to unseat Chelsea, but only if Fowler and Bellamy get to play together regularly but both are injury prone so we will see. Benitez is a master tactician and now they have the wingers he crying for since he reach.

Spurs cracking into the top 4, possibly 3, Martin Jol is a good coach and man manager, once he could juggle his midfiel properly. Carrick leaving might actually help them cause he have real other midfielders there with talent and Carrick was the only man guaranteed every game.

I not writing off Man U cause when they under stress and duress, is when they like to prove people wrong.

Arsenal...well it depends on how much of a dffernce Walcott make cause Henry carry them on his back last year. That have to take a toll on a player sometime,but Wenger is a boss at finding young players and turning them into world beaters so u never know which one of them players might be a match winner this year for Arsenal.

Beloved Newcastle to come 6th and make a run in Europe and grab the League Cup.

City and Everton to have good seasons and West Ham to have a difficult one after last year.

Ah ain't know boy....yuh post confuse meh....I hope Walcott get playing time this season, so we could see the yute play...but ah cah see him making any "big difference" in Arsenal, since de man NEVER get a sweat in EPL yet....

I also doh agree with fowler and bellamy playing together...I feel fowler will be on de bench for sure, and be more effective coming off de bench.....and crouch and bellamy go start as Feliz stated earlier....and they will be a formidable strike duo as much as we trinis hate crouch....

IMHO it's Chelsea league again by a stretch, unless dey royally srew up....look for meh boy shevchenko to light up de EPL....

I feel Liverpool and Arsenal go fight up for 2nd and maybe try to challenge Chelsea at some point in the season, but to no avail....

and Man U and Tottenham fighting for that last Champion's League spot
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 27, 2006, 09:55:21 AM
I hope Walcott get playing time this season, so we could see the yute play...but ah cah see him making any "big difference" in Arsenal, since de man NEVER get a sweat in EPL yet....
Tthe man is a 12m pound player and an England international...so obviously he have something. Rooney made a difference his first EPL season, as did Owen. So if Walcott don't produce something and be that somethign that ups Arsenal as compared to last year, then their challenge will fall flat.

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I also doh agree with fowler and bellamy playing together...I feel fowler will be on de bench for sure, and be more effective coming off de bench
Bellamy say Fowler is his hero and he would love to play alongside him, Plus , according to reports Fowler set up most of the chances on goals in the pre-season they play together. IMHO, Robbie needs more time on the field in order to really make an impact. But...I not the coach, it is just a hope for me.
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IMHO it's Chelsea league again by a stretch, unless dey royally srew up....look for meh boy shevchenko to light up de EPL....
This is Chelsea's year to self destruct...because they wil make the mistake of dropping Makelele in order to accommodate Ballack, Lampard and Essien. Obi Mikel is already a drama-maker, so he will complain for time saying he coulda go ManU and sweat and he didn't fight to come to Chelsea to bench. Drogba ask to leave as soon as he hear Shevchenko coming and i highly doubt Mourinho changing a winning formula for Drogba's sake, so he will also bench and grumble. Too many cooks...one bad run of form and u will hear about unrest in the dressing room.

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 27, 2006, 10:03:23 AM
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This is Chelsea's year to self destruct...because they wil make the mistake of dropping Makelele in order to accommodate Ballack, Lampard and Essien. Obi Mikel is already a drama-maker, so he will complain for time saying he coulda go ManU and sweat and he didn't fight to come to Chelsea to bench. Drogba ask to leave as soon as he hear Shevchenko coming and i highly doubt Mourinho changing a winning formula for Drogba's sake, so he will also bench and grumble. Too many cooks...one bad run of form and u will hear about unrest in the dressing room.


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that little money hungry bitch... i hope all he sees is carling cup....  he cudda start at man utd... buh u pick to go to a club with ballack lampard makalele and essien.....     wa dey does teach in nigeria boy? obviously not common sense
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: lickslikefire on July 27, 2006, 10:30:56 AM
The man is a 12m pound player and an England international...so obviously he have something. Rooney made a difference his first EPL season, as did Owen. So if Walcott don't produce something and be that somethign that ups Arsenal as compared to last year, then their challenge will fall flat.

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I also doh agree with fowler and bellamy playing together...I feel fowler will be on de bench for sure, and be more effective coming off de bench
Bellamy say Fowler is his hero and he would love to play alongside him, Plus , according to reports Fowler set up most of the chances on goals in the pre-season they play together. IMHO, Robbie needs more time on the field in order to really make an impact. But...I not the coach, it is just a hope for me.
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IMHO it's Chelsea league again by a stretch, unless dey royally srew up....look for meh boy shevchenko to light up de EPL....
This is Chelsea's year to self destruct...because they wil make the mistake of dropping Makelele in order to accommodate Ballack, Lampard and Essien. Obi Mikel is already a drama-maker, so he will complain for time saying he coulda go ManU and sweat and he didn't fight to come to Chelsea to bench. Drogba ask to leave as soon as he hear Shevchenko coming and i highly doubt Mourinho changing a winning formula for Drogba's sake, so he will also bench and grumble. Too many cooks...one bad run of form and u will hear about unrest in the dressing room.


Last year men was saying de same ting..."Chelsea have an international reserve team...they doh have a team with heart.....they will have real men whining on de bench..."..but de fact is they still cut everybody arse......doh get me wrong....I HATE CHELSEA with a passion....I just saying how I seeing it....

Regarding Walcott.....you comparing that small man to Rooney and Owen....you ever see dat man play against "quality players"...I haven't, so I cah really make an informed opinion and I doh find yuh could justify a player's impact for a team based on how much money he making and if he is an english international....

I hear what yuh saying about Bellamy and fowler though, and hope that partnership materializes :beermug:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on July 27, 2006, 10:41:44 AM
The EPL this year...
Liverpool will be the team to unseat Chelsea, but only if Fowler and Bellamy get to play together regularly but both are injury prone so we will see. Benitez is a master tactician and now they have the wingers he crying for since he reach.

Spurs cracking into the top 4, possibly 3, Martin Jol is a good coach and man manager, once he could juggle his midfiel properly. Carrick leaving might actually help them cause he have real other midfielders there with talent and Carrick was the only man guaranteed every game.

I not writing off Man U cause when they under stress and duress, is when they like to prove people wrong.

Arsenal...well it depends on how much of a dffernce Walcott make cause Henry carry them on his back last year. That have to take a toll on a player sometime,but Wenger is a boss at finding young players and turning them into world beaters so u never know which one of them players might be a match winner this year for Arsenal.

Beloved Newcastle to come 6th and make a run in Europe and grab the League Cup.

City and Everton to have good seasons and West Ham to have a difficult one after last year.
Spidey ah have to agree to everything yuh say there..let we hope Newcastle produce also fuh real  :)

concernign Man U..is Rooney alone up top with Scholes behind..like allyuh did forget Scholes coming back or what?..that was for you specifically JDB lol..Sir ent go play Rooney and Saha at the same time unless he have to chase a game...right now Nistelrooy looking out de picture.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: davidephraim on July 27, 2006, 11:03:30 AM
Dis EPL season go have little drama.  Arsenal go reduce it to a one horse race wit de ress fightin fuh de crumbs. 

Wit dat....is really only individuals go be gettin my interest.

Who Carlos Edwards end up playin wit

Obi Mikel wit Chelsea and how he do...if he get playin time

Theo Walcott and how much run he go get and wha kinda impact he go have.

How Ronaldo respond to de English fans and media

Oddah dan dat....ho hum.

Predictions....

EPL winners - Arsenal

Player of the Year - Thierry Henry

Young player of the year - Obi Mikel or Theo Walcott (dependin of course on how much run dem get)

Leading goalscorer - Craig Bellamy / Thierry Henry - tie





Wid dem kind a predictions ah hope Martha Stewart give you some insider info  because yuh risky dread!!!

Doh take no odds on dem predictions ah beggin yuh..... :D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Jumbie on July 27, 2006, 12:01:15 PM
SPURS!.. no need to say more.


BTW..it would be nice to have Carlos in the prem.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on July 27, 2006, 04:00:21 PM
anybody know if the Van Nistelrooy deal will just be cash?
maybe they shoulda tell Real to throw in Gravesen in the deal
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 28, 2006, 05:22:43 AM
Well when one great player goes out... one great player comes in

Man Utd Confirm Carrick Capture

Tottenham are expected to confirm the sale of their England midfielder Michael Carrick to Manchester United in an £18million deal later on Friday.

 
Spurs, who rejected a bid of £10million from United earlier this summer, are understood to have accepted their increased offer for the player.


Reports suggest the deal to take Carrick to Old Trafford was finally completed early this morning and he is expected to be unveiled as a United player later today.

The deal came just hours after Real Madrid claimed they had clinched the signing of United's Dutch striker Ruud van Nistelrooy for a fee in the region of £10million.

The striker is believed to have signed a three-year deal with the Spanish giants after quitting United in the wake of his end-of-season bust-up with Sir Alex Ferguson.

However, while United allowed the player to travel to Madrid for a medical, the Premiership club insisted no deal had been finalised.

Carrick's move to Old Trafford will land Spurs a handsome profit on a player they signed from West Ham for just £2.75million two years ago.

Ferguson has been a long-time admirer of the midfielder who will help fill the void left by the departed Roy Keane. Although he will not be a direct replacement for the Irishman, Carrick's passing skills will provide them with an outlet they have lacked since Keane left the club.

Carrick's loss will still be a major blow for Spurs coach Martin Jol who helped the 25-year-old force his way into Sven-Goran Eriksson's World Cup squad.

The Dutch coach had hoped that Carrick would repay the club's loyalty by staying at White Hart Lane but Spurs would not agree to the player's wage demands - reported to be around £50,000-a-week.

Carrick had two years left on his Tottenham deal but had rejected a new contract offer in the wake of United's persistent interest.

Tottenham's determination to hold out for a fee which closely matched their £20million valuation of the player means has given them more transfer cash to spend but Jol will not need to buy a replacement for Carrick.

Tottenham have already signed 22-year-old Benoit Assou-Ekotto from Lens and spent £10.9m on Bulgarian striker Dimitar Berbatov but missed out on Chelsea's left-winger Damien Duff.

But the summer signing of Ivory Coast international Didier Zokora will make Carrick's departure somewhat less painful for Jol, who can now continue his search for a left-sided midfielder in earnest.

Carrick will become United's fifth most expensive signing behind Rio Ferdinand, Juan Sebastian Veron, Wayne Rooney and Van Nistelrooy.

United visit Amsterdam next week where they are due to play both Porto and Ajax and Carrick is expected to be part of the squad.


Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Sam on July 28, 2006, 05:51:27 AM
This would be my team if I was an EPL manager and could not afford the BIG stars. I find some of these no name or under rated EPL players are good.

GK - Antti Niemi (Middlesbrough)

RB - Alberto Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
CB - Anton Ferdinand (West Ham)
CB - Ledley King (Tottenham)
LB - Wayne Bridge (Fulham)

RW - Jermaine Pennant (Liverpool)
CM - Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham)
DM - Lassana Diarra (Chelsea)
LW - Stelios Giannakopoulos (Bolton)

RF - Juan Pablo Angel (Aston Villa)
LF - Jose Antonio Reyes (Arsenal)

My Subs.

RF - Jason Roberts (Blackburn)
LF - Marlon Harewood (West Ham)
CF - Mohamed Sissoko (Liverpool)
CM - Joey Barton (Man-City)
LW - Nigel Reo-Coker (West Ham)
CB - Brett Emerton (Blackburn)
CB - Radhi Jaidi (Bolton)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 28, 2006, 06:35:40 AM
Ey Sam...I eh know bout them men being underrated. Ledley King, Jenas, Joey Barton and Reyes all going to cost you more than 10million each. But I know what u mean...
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: andre samuel on July 28, 2006, 07:16:25 AM
18 million for carrick? dat is madness!!

de man is ah good player, but 18 million? dat is real madness

ah love it!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on July 28, 2006, 09:19:01 AM
Chelsea will be hard to crack, but if 'Pool could get off to a good start, it could be a nice race.  That defence was trouble last year, and I don't expect anything different from 'Pool this year.  Rafa has made some very good additions, but we need a 15-20 goal striker (Kuyt).  Arsenal will compete, but I think their back line will be bullied and ganstered again by powerful forwards like Drogba.  They too young in the back. Man U will be OK, but I think that that they need another central defender (not sold on Silvestre and Vidic).  They need another striker, cause Solskajer not going to cut it.  Teams to watch:  Spurs (can't understand how the Big Four let Berbatov slip from below their noses), Newcastle (Yes. Look for Roeder to redeem himself), Blackburn (will spoil the party of the Big Four by shaving points), West Ham, Bolton (Big Sam and his consistency)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on July 28, 2006, 09:43:28 AM
SPURS!.. no need to say more.


BTW..it would be nice to have Carlos in the prem.

Oh Lord...poor Spurs.  Jumbie backin dem.  Mind dem get relegated.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on July 28, 2006, 09:44:46 AM
This would be my team if I was an EPL manager and could not afford the BIG stars. I find some of these no name or under rated players are good.

GK - Antti Niemi (Middlesbrough)

RB - Alberto Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
CB - Anton Ferdinand (West Ham)
CB - Ledley King (Tottenham)
LB - Wayne Bridge (Fulham)

RW - Jermaine Pennant (Liverpool)
CM - Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham)
DM - Lassana Diarra (Chelsea)
LW - Stelios Giannakopoulos (Bolton)

RF - Juan Pablo Angel (Aston Villa)
LF - Jose Antonio Reyes (Arsenal)

My Subs.

RF - Jason Roberts (Blackburn)
LF - Marlon Harewood (West Ham)
CF - Mohamed Sissoko (Liverpool)
CM - Joey Barton (Man-City)
LW - Nigel Reo-Coker (West Ham)
CB - Brett Emerton (Blackburn)
CB - Radhi Jaidi (Bolton)

No room fuh Carlos Edwards in yuh no name / underrated squad?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on July 28, 2006, 10:13:29 AM
This would be my team if I was an EPL manager and could not afford the BIG stars. I find some of these no name or under rated players are good.

GK - Antti Niemi (Middlesbrough)

RB - Alberto Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
CB - Anton Ferdinand (West Ham)
CB - Ledley King (Tottenham)
LB - Wayne Bridge (Fulham)

RW - Jermaine Pennant (Liverpool)
CM - Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham)
DM - Lassana Diarra (Chelsea)
LW - Stelios Giannakopoulos (Bolton)

RF - Juan Pablo Angel (Aston Villa)
LF - Jose Antonio Reyes (Arsenal)

My Subs.

RF - Jason Roberts (Blackburn)
LF - Marlon Harewood (West Ham)
CF - Mohamed Sissoko (Liverpool)
CM - Joey Barton (Man-City)
LW - Nigel Reo-Coker (West Ham)
CB - Brett Emerton (Blackburn)
CB - Radhi Jaidi (Bolton)

No room fuh Carlos Edwards in yuh no name / underrated squad?

Palos, ah throwing in Dawson from Spurs (real potential as a center back), Benayoun (Hatters).  Sissoko is a holding midfielder (DM); ah see yuh have him as ah CF. 
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mr Fix-it on July 28, 2006, 11:36:12 AM
I think if Man U has a good opening season the might pull off the upset.  Historically, ManU always have a strong second half to the EPL so I am hoping that they can win there first 10 to 12 games and that way make the lions pay in the end.

The Gunners always looked good but I am not sure about this season.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mose on July 28, 2006, 03:29:07 PM
I'm expecting Chelsea to win the EPL again this season but in a much closer race than the last couple of seasons. From position 2 to 5, I figure it go be de usual suspects, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs and Arsenal. Hard to pick who in dat group go finish where but I think Man U is most likely to drop down from dey 2nd place last year. Also I'm looking for Newcastle to make a comeback and show some improvement this year.

Most likely to unseat Chelsea? I figure Liverpool or Arsenal this year.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 29, 2006, 11:51:49 AM
I'm expecting Chelsea to win the EPL again this season but in a much closer race than the last couple of seasons. From position 2 to 5, I figure it go be de usual suspects, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs and Arsenal. Hard to pick who in dat group go finish where but I think Man U is most likely to drop down from dey 2nd place last year. Also I'm looking for Newcastle to make a comeback and show some improvement this year.

Most likely to unseat Chelsea? I figure Liverpool or Arsenal this year.


U tink newcastle cud get higher than 7th..coz that wher they finish last year..they was at 6th at one point
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on July 29, 2006, 07:25:10 PM
I'm expecting Chelsea to win the EPL again this season but in a much closer race than the last couple of seasons. From position 2 to 5, I figure it go be de usual suspects, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs and Arsenal. Hard to pick who in dat group go finish where but I think Man U is most likely to drop down from dey 2nd place last year. Also I'm looking for Newcastle to make a comeback and show some improvement this year.

Most likely to unseat Chelsea? I figure Liverpool or Arsenal this year.


U tink newcastle cud get higher than 7th..coz that wher they finish last year..they was at 6th at one point
ah have to say that was  real good comebck to end de season after that Souness crap.
that team always had potential..if they get a good start..they making top5 easily
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on July 30, 2006, 11:31:37 AM
I'm expecting Chelsea to win the EPL again this season but in a much closer race than the last couple of seasons. From position 2 to 5, I figure it go be de usual suspects, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs and Arsenal. Hard to pick who in dat group go finish where but I think Man U is most likely to drop down from dey 2nd place last year. Also I'm looking for Newcastle to make a comeback and show some improvement this year.

Most likely to unseat Chelsea? I figure Liverpool or Arsenal this year.


U tink newcastle cud get higher than 7th..coz that wher they finish last year..they was at 6th at one point
ah have to say that was  real good comebck to end de season after that Souness crap.
that team always had potential..if they get a good start..they making top5 easily

top 5 ? i hope so. i thinkin about 8th
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on July 30, 2006, 11:00:11 PM
This would be my team if I was an EPL manager and could not afford the BIG stars. I find some of these no name or under rated EPL players are good.

GK - Antti Niemi (Middlesbrough)

RB - Alberto Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
CB - Anton Ferdinand (West Ham)
CB - Ledley King (Tottenham)
LB - Wayne Bridge (Fulham)

RW - Jermaine Pennant (Liverpool)
CM - Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham)
DM - Lassana Diarra (Chelsea)
LW - Stelios Giannakopoulos (Bolton)

RF - Juan Pablo Angel (Aston Villa)
LF - Jose Antonio Reyes (Arsenal)

My Subs.

RF - Jason Roberts (Blackburn)
LF - Marlon Harewood (West Ham)
CF - Mohamed Sissoko (Liverpool)
CM - Joey Barton (Man-City)
LW - Nigel Reo-Coker (West Ham)
CB - Brett Emerton (Blackburn)
CB - Radhi Jaidi (Bolton)

  I Really like your pick for starting 'keeper and since yuh didn't name one to the bench, I will nominate Carlo Cudicini for that role and maybe even split time between the posts.
    Even if John Obi Mikel doesn't get much playing time (Chelsea's lineup, especially their midfield is downright FRIGHTENING!!......but I wish they would have gotten or still WOULD get rid of Arjen Robben) I at least think that he will leave a big impression on the premiership fans.  I won't say much more about him, but barring possibly a bad attitude, he WILL impress!!  I really don't see that chelsea's competition is going to come from the primiership this year.......but, football, as any sport , is a funny thing.  What we see on paper, might not turn out to be so on grass.


     Where the fashion is concerned, the only nike product you will see me wearin' is a Barcelona or Brazil (in alphabetical order).  Adidas RIGHT THROUGH!!
   Even though I is a Mourinho fan, and ah cyah stand Benitez and Liverpool.......their kit this season is NICE, too!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jose on July 31, 2006, 06:47:37 AM
chelsea all the way,sheva is exactly what chelsea were missing,a 20 goal a season striker.look out for chelsea.they are jus so consistent
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 31, 2006, 06:55:11 AM
I figure Sheva could be the spark they missing in Europe but I not seeing 3 in a row for Chelsea...not in the EPL. This is not the French League. When last a side win 3 straight in Italy, Spain or England? I not seeign that happening...
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 31, 2006, 07:51:15 AM
spurs revealed the fee agreed for carrick

18.6 million pounds  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: lickslikefire on July 31, 2006, 08:10:28 AM
I figure Sheva could be the spark they missing in Europe but I not seeing 3 in a row for Chelsea...not in the EPL. This is not the French League. When last a side win 3 straight in Italy, Spain or England? I not seeign that happening...

I have a question: When last did a team spend the amount of money that Chelsea has and when last did a team boast a roster of players like chelsea that can play and beat teams consistently.  

I not saying they winning for sure cause it's football and anything could happen....but they definitely are the favourites in my book

Also, who's yuh pick for La Liga this year?  Since Barcelona win it in the last 2 yrs, I guess it's not dem?

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: JDB on July 31, 2006, 09:37:58 AM
I figure Sheva could be the spark they missing in Europe but I not seeing 3 in a row for Chelsea...not in the EPL. This is not the French League. When last a side win 3 straight in Italy, Spain or England? I not seeign that happening...

United win 3 straight just a few years ago 2000-2002.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 31, 2006, 09:50:24 AM
I figure Sheva could be the spark they missing in Europe but I not seeing 3 in a row for Chelsea...not in the EPL. This is not the French League. When last a side win 3 straight in Italy, Spain or England? I not seeign that happening...

United win 3 straight just a few years ago 2000-2002.

jdb    yeh utd won 98-99 99-00 00-01 .... arsenal won in 01-02 and utd won 02-03

4 outta 5
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: FF on July 31, 2006, 11:04:48 AM
Man U ppl have a read here

How Ferguson is destroying his legacy!!

Thoughts... comments

http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1827876,00.html
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 31, 2006, 11:22:36 AM

Also, who's yuh pick for La Liga this year?  Since Barcelona win it in the last 2 yrs, I guess it's not dem?


Real...Capello is a born winner and Real not going emptyhanded for so long.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on July 31, 2006, 11:23:26 AM

United win 3 straight just a few years ago 2000-2002.

jdb    yeh utd won 98-99 99-00 00-01 .... arsenal won in 01-02 and utd won 02-03

4 outta 5
Quote
That differnt...ManU had Yorkie then  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Jay10 on July 31, 2006, 01:00:00 PM
The team to beat is Chelsea

Liverpool, and Arsenal............possibly Man u may be the ones to upset them this year

As much as chelsea hav a world class squad, and as much as I luv dem................dis just mite be d year we handin ova our crown......................

NOT

                             Cech
ferreria      carvallo          terry           gallas
                      maka
       lampard           essien
         ballack           robben
                  sheva

back 4 not so sure but a damn good team anyway............
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 31, 2006, 03:42:04 PM
Manchester United have completed the signing of Michael Carrick from Tottenham Hotspur.

The England midfielder put pen-to-paper for The Red Devils on Monday after he finalised personal terms and passed a medical.

The Red Devils have agreed to pay Spurs up to £18.6 million for Carrick, although part of the fee is dependant on appearances and other factors.

Carrick will be unveiled by United on Wednesday as the club's first signing of the summer.

Sir Alex Ferguson has already confirmed that Carrick will be wearing number 16 for United next season - Roy Keane's old shirt.

 
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: FF on July 31, 2006, 03:46:24 PM
ah see nobody ent comment... ah feel allyuh ent see it lemmeh post it in all its glory!!

Thoughts... comments?

Shredding his legacy at every turn  

Sir Alex Ferguson's brilliance famously knocked Liverpool off their perch. Now his incompetence is doing the same to Manchester United. How did it come to this, wonders Rob Smyth

Monday July 31, 2006
Guardian Unlimited

 
Winding down: Ferguson no longer has the stomach or the wit for the fight. Photograph: Getty.
 
It was John Cleese, in Clockwise, who said: "I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." Manchester United fans would beg to differ. Usually, the best thing about pre-season is the hope: reality's incisors have yet to pierce the gums of optimism, and fans can live off the balmy, often barmy belief that this is their year. For supporters of most of the other 91 English clubs, that's the mood right now. For United fans? Forget it. After three seasons of papering over the cracks, it seems most United fans are awaiting the moment that the fault lines tracing a veiny path across Old Trafford are exposed.

Almost everything about the club reeks of disarray. Owned by the Glazers, who push buttons from a remote hideaway like Dr Evil; run by a manager who shreds his legacy at every turn; almost exclusively represented by the inadequate (Darren Fletcher and Kieran Richardson) and the odious (Rio Ferdinand); unable to close a deal for West Brom's reserve keeper, never mind the new Roy Keane. The signing of Michael Carrick, a Pirlo when a Gattuso was needed, is a band aid for a bullet wound, and a ludicrously expensive one at that.
If anything, it's a surprise that United have bought anyone at all. This summer, they have been like a pathetic drunk lumbering across a dancefloor at 1.45am, trying to get off with everything that moves. No matter how many people they move in for - and if reports are to be believed, United have made offers for dozens of players - nobody wants to go near them. And the one person who surely would, Damien Duff, was allowed to slip into the arms of Newcastle for less than United paid for Patrice Evra. You couldn't make it up. You don't have to.

United finished second last season, but that said more about the deficiency of the Premiership than their own. Arsenal will not have a four-month blind spot this season, while all evidence suggests that Liverpool's gradient will continue on its upward trajectory. With Tottenham getting stronger, even with the loss of Carrick, it is entirely conceivable that, if they start slowly, United could finish fifth; in today's environment, that would be disastrous.

The problems are so obvious, so fundamental, as to be beggar belief that they have not been addressed. Just as the glory years of 1992 to 2001 will only fully be appreciated in 20 years' time, so will Ferguson's subsequent failure. It is particularly bewildering that a man who once exerted such an unyielding grip on every single aspect of the club that he had to be virtually coerced into delegating has let things slip to this extent. Take the Cristiano Ronaldo situation: Ferguson said recently that he had not even spoken to Ronaldo since the World Cup, a staggering dereliction of duty that is in total contrast to the us-against-the-world protection that he gave to David Beckham - and for which, for a time, he was so thrillingly rewarded - in 1998.

Once upon a time Ferguson could play 'who blinks first' with fate and win every time, his iron will shaping his destiny exactly as he wanted. Now he is reduced to uttering garbage like "it's like having a new signing" of Paul Scholes, Ole Solskjaer, Gabriel Heinze and Alan Smith, the irrational if-I-say-it-enough-it-might-happen gibberish you'd associate with a serial loser like Kevin Keegan. These days, the man they call The Hairdryer is full of nothing but hot air.

Ferguson's squad, once so taut, is a baggy mess of has-beens, never-will-bes and Liam Miller. The simple repetition of 4-4-2, of Giggs, Scholes, Keane, Beckham, Cole and Yorke, has given way to myriad tactical and personnel changes, to a ruinous obsession with utility players and tinkering. It's a truly appalling fact that, with Ruud van Nistelrooy gone, none of United's outfield players have played in only one position at the club. A nadir was reached in the FA Cup game at Wolves last season, when nearly £60m of defensive and attacking talent (Ferdinand and Wayne Rooney) was used in the centre of midfield.

It is an increasingly inescapable conclusion that, unwittingly or otherwise, Ferguson is winding down, a prizefighter who no longer has the stomach or the wit for an admittedly enormous challenge which, once upon a time, he would have fervently inhaled. Like he did with Liverpool. Ferguson's almost maniacal yearning to "knock Liverpool off their f**king perch" was arguably the single most important factor in United's 1990s renaissance. It makes it all the more vicious an irony that, 10 years later, he should knock United off the perch he had made for them through increasingly rank mismanagement.

Indeed, it must irk him beyond belief that United are making exactly the same mistakes that Liverpool did: lack of pheromones in the transfer market; laughable, fall-back signings at suspicious and ridiculous prices; deluded ramblings ("we are as good as Chelsea, no question") - and, worst of all, a dressing-room where playing the field seems as important as playing the game. Liverpool's Spice Boys were bad, but they have nothing on Merk Berks like Ferdinand, Richardson and Wes Brown.

Ferguson has taken this end-of-an-empire template and, incredibly, managed to develop it: he's added a sprawling, outsized squad chock-full of obscenely well-paid deadwood; insultingly obvious spin that a two-year-old could see through (the Van Nistelrooy saga); economy with the truth (Ferguson ridiculed a journalist for saying that Paul Scholes had been scouting for United; a few days later Scholes confirmed the story); a coaching set-up that had Wayne Rooney playing wide for a season and turned Ronaldo from the world's most thrilling off-the-wall talent into a run-of-the-mill winger.

Ferguson, an essentially honourable man, is partly suffering because of the impossibly high standards he set, and he carries the fatigued incomprehension of a man who is out of time. When he cites his favourite United team it is not the Treble-winners of 1999, but the Double-winners of 1994: Schmeichel, Bruce, Pallister, Ince, Keane, Hughes, Cantona, Robson - a team that dripped masculinity, who bonded over blockbusting Saturday-night sessions, who embodied the old-school values to which Ferguson can relate. Real men. The gentrification generation - sarong-wearing, pink champagne-swigging metrosexuals - are entirely beyond his comprehension. He could handle one, David Beckham, for a time before eventually giving up on him. Now he has a pack of them, for whom the hairdryer means only one thing - a trip to Toni & Guy. It is a different world. Ferguson probably doesn't even know what 'merk' means.

Everywhere, principles are being sacrificed. In years gone by Ferdinand - who for all his irrefutable ability is the type of character whose presence in a United shirt symbolises everything that has gone wrong with the club - would've been out the door faster than Paul Ince could say 'big-time Charlie', but now Ferguson can't afford to lose his only world-class defender. In years gone by he wouldn't have considered signing someone like Patrick Vieira, on grounds of age or character, but now he is left looking for someone, anyone, to appease the fans. In years gone by he would never have given a game to someone like John O'Shea, whose sole use is to put the podge in a hodgepodge midfield. In years gone by, he would never have sanctioned the mediocre football that, except for a few giddy weeks in the spring of 2003, United have played ever since Carlos Queiroz arrived in 2002 masquerading gobbledygook as continental sophistication.

And the thing is, it is only going to get worse: Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham have all made shrewd, cheap signings and are on an upward trajectory. United are going the other way: they are hugely dependent on Ferdinand and Rooney, but no amount of Carling Cup medals is going to sate their ambition. Then there is the Glazer factor, the full, inevitable horror of which is only just beginning to emerge. United fans think this season is going to be bad. It hasn't even started.

rob.smyth@guardian.co.uk
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 31, 2006, 04:17:49 PM
ok number 1.....f**k you FF

number 2..... f**k you whoever wrote that backward thinking third world article

number 3 f**k all the manchester united haters.... allyuh trinis dat just hate man utd is because a rich spoilt brat showoff named dwight yorke f**ked up himself at united and allyuh wanna blame fergie...so f**k allyuh

yorke is a boss player but his attitude killed him there .... the new dwight yorke..the leader..is a much better yorke



may 2007 we will see... i am not saying we are winning the league.. but 5th yuh stupid english c**t?...no way
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 01, 2006, 01:11:50 AM
ok number 1.....f**k you FF

number 2..... f**k you whoever wrote that backward thinking third world article

number 3 f**k all the manchester united haters.... allyuh trinis dat just hate man utd is because a rich spoilt brat showoff named dwight yorke f**ked up himself at united and allyuh wanna blame fergie...so f**k allyuh

yorke is a boss player but his attitude killed him there .... the new dwight yorke..the leader..is a much better yorke



may 2007 we will see... i am not saying we are winning the league.. but 5th yuh stupid english c**t?...no way

Calm down fella.  I have been backing Liverpool since the 80s.  I never jump on no Man U wagon.  Reality is that Man U are not the team that brought trepidation to the opposition like in the 90s.  Sir Alex is being matched by great tacticians at the other big English clubs, and his team is no longer the automatic choice of non-English big names that wish to play in the prem.  The tide is changing, whether you like it or not.  Truth is, Man U signing Carrick still does not give them "steel" in the middle.  Carrick is more about artistry, if you ask me.  Hargreaves might have been closer in the mold of a Keene.  Graveson would have been a good man too.  If he really wanted another Keene, he shoudda tempt Milan with that type of money for Gattuso.  Dem Italian teams does sell amongst themselves, if the price is right, so they might have bitten the bait.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: FF on August 01, 2006, 06:14:41 AM
ok number 1.....f**k you FF

number 2..... f**k you whoever wrote that backward thinking third world article

number 3 f**k all the manchester united haters.... allyuh trinis dat just hate man utd is because a rich spoilt brat showoff named dwight yorke f**ked up himself at united and allyuh wanna blame fergie...so f**k allyuh

yorke is a boss player but his attitude killed him there .... the new dwight yorke..the leader..is a much better yorke



may 2007 we will see... i am not saying we are winning the league.. but 5th yuh stupid english c**t?...no way

I ask for thoughts and comments and this is all you was capable of? ???

I know you young but show a little more maturity nah! The man never say dey finishing 5th he say it could be possible....

The man back up he argument with his reasoning... if you disagree let us see your points so we could get some good clean debate! Instead of all dis internet posturing and e-thuggery.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: superoli on August 01, 2006, 06:36:57 AM
I know you dont like what you read but I think a lot of it has basis in fact.
It is well known that Man U dressing room is in dissaray with players trying to leave. You have to wonder why players are refusing to sign for them, back in times you had to form a queue !
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 01, 2006, 06:52:51 AM
I can't see what the problem is. Man United have been accused of being in a crisis for the last ten years and they always come up trumps.

Remember Alan Hansen's comments "You can't win anything with kids", well they did, in fact they won the treble so I would not write them off yet.

Fergie knows what he is doing and I fully expect them to be there or there abouts come the end of the season.
Title: English Football League Form Guides
Post by: Andre on August 01, 2006, 10:38:34 AM
championship: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_div_1/5175924.stm
league 1: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_div_2/5175922.stm
league 2: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_div_3/5176388.stm

LUTON TOWN


Latest club news

Nickname: The Hatters
Ground: Kenilworth Road
Capacity: 9,975
Last season: 10th
Manager: Mike Newell (June 2003)

In: Adam Boyd (Hartlepool, £500,000), Richard Langley (QPR), Lewis Emanuel (Bradford)

Out: Steve Howard (Derby, £1m), Kevin Nicholls (Leeds, £750,000), Enoch Showunmi (Bristol City)

BBC Sport verdict: The loss of Kevin Nicholls and Steve Howard makes life more difficult for Luton after they impressed last season.

But the Hatters got £1.7m for the duo and there is plenty left from the £3m sale of Curtis Davies last summer too.

Any improvement on last season will depend on how Newell spends his money but they should survive comfortably.

Key man: Carlos Edwards. Had a great World Cup for Trinidad & Tobago

PORT VALE


Latest club news

Nickname: The Valiants
Ground: Vale Park
Capacity: 22,356
Last season: 13th
Manager: Martin Foyle (February 2004)


In: Paul Harsley (Macclesfield), Colin Miles (Yeovil), Akpo Sodje (Darlington), Jason Talbot (Mansfield), Richard Walker (Crewe), Danny Whitaker (Macclesfield)

Out: Jonny Brain (Macclesfield), Michael Cummins (Darlington), Tony Dinning (Stockport), Craig James (Darlington), Steve Rowland, Hector Sam (Walsall)

BBC Sport verdict: Port Vale have hung on to most of last year's squad, but look unlikely to better last season's half-way finish.

Boss Martin Foyle will hope his side can continue to make steady progress.

But not even Robbie Williams' recent investment is likely to bring anything other than another season in mid-table.

Key man: Chris Birchall. Midfielder is bound to attract transfer speculation after returning from the World Cup.

WREXHAM


Latest club news

Nickname: Red Dragons
Ground: Racecourse Ground
Capacity: 15,500
Last season: 13th
Manager: Denis Smith (October 2001)

In: Steve Evans (TNS), Chris Llewellyn (Hartlepool), Neil Roberts (Doncaster), Juan Ugarte (Crewe), Ryan Valentine (Darlington)

Out: Dave Bayliss (Lancaster City), Dean Bennett (Chester), Andy Holt (Northampton), Alex Smith, Jon Walters (Chester), Jim Whitley

BBC Sport verdict: Denis Smith has brought old favourites Juan Ugarte, Chris Llewellyn and Neil Roberts back to their old stomping ground.

This sleeping Welsh dragon threatens to breathe fire before all too often drifting back into a doze.

After flirting with promotion, expect a mid-table finish.

Key man: Dennis Lawrence. Giant defender fresh from bigging it up in the World Cup in Germany.

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 02, 2006, 11:37:25 AM
something to make utd fans smile

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/carrickfergie.jpg)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mose on August 02, 2006, 12:23:45 PM
I'm expecting Chelsea to win the EPL again this season but in a much closer race than the last couple of seasons. From position 2 to 5, I figure it go be de usual suspects, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs and Arsenal. Hard to pick who in dat group go finish where but I think Man U is most likely to drop down from dey 2nd place last year. Also I'm looking for Newcastle to make a comeback and show some improvement this year.

Most likely to unseat Chelsea? I figure Liverpool or Arsenal this year.


U tink newcastle cud get higher than 7th..coz that wher they finish last year..they was at 6th at one point

Good point. I thought they finished lower than that. The best I see them doing is a maybe 5th place. I think they more likely to end up right back around where they finish last year. 6/7/8.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mose on August 02, 2006, 12:38:19 PM
BTW, I've been a Man U fan for almost 30 yrs and I definitely don't see them beating Chelsea this year. As a matter of fact I would be happy with 5th or better. Something is missing in this team. They don't dominate games like they used to a couple of years ago. And I think their 2 biggest stars at the moment (Rooney and Ronaldo) are fragile mentally.

Their strike force (although, they can score goals) is not exactly awe inspiring. Defence? Who knows what we'll get this year. At least Heinze is back, but if anything happens to him... Father put a hand fuh Evra.

I think the team lacks chemistry and cohesion. Hopefully Fergie can find something/someone to hold them together.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 02, 2006, 01:26:41 PM
something to make utd fans smile

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/carrickfergie.jpg)

ey..carrick is a newcastle boy at heart.. ( hes from the toon )
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on August 03, 2006, 06:43:48 AM
BTW, I've been a Man U fan for almost 30 yrs and I definitely don't see them beating Chelsea this year. As a matter of fact I would be happy with 5th or better. Something is missing in this team. They don't dominate games like they used to a couple of years ago. 

The thing that missing is the intimidation factor from a couple years ago. Teams used to show up looking to minimise the amount of licks they getting from ManU, now teams believe they can beat them. Chelsea and Arsenal mash up their aura, now they 'just another big team', not the 'great ManU'.
The swagger of Eric Cantona has finally worn off...
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 03, 2006, 10:20:25 AM
Not enough Englishmen, with the exception of Arsenal, I strongly believe that a core of good English talent is the key.

I'm not suggesting English players are better, but I do believe that english players want to win the English league more than overseas players. If you look at the treble winning side, it had a core of young English players who came up through the youth system together and would sweat blood for each other. This, along with the passion and drive of Roy Keane gave them this belief that, even if they were 2-0 down with 5 minutes to go, they could still win.

Man U have still got a very strong side, but they seem to miss some passion, Something that Mourinho has developed in the Chelsea team.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 03, 2006, 10:42:47 AM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/priceless.jpg)

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 03, 2006, 02:36:54 PM
Actually, it's £48 plus a £2 booking fee to get into the Bridge.

£50 to watch a game of football, outrageous.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 09, 2006, 07:55:11 PM
who allyuh think go be the first managerial casualty for this season?
ah picking Chris Coleman
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Remie on August 10, 2006, 04:13:55 AM
who allyuh think go be the first managerial casualty for this season?
ah picking Chris Coleman

That is a very good choice. I'l go for Warnock of Sheffield United.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: spideybuff on August 10, 2006, 07:21:13 AM
Sir Alex  :devil:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: takenoprisoners on August 10, 2006, 02:32:40 PM
BBC Sport

Man Utd capture Kuszczak on loan

Manchester United have signed Polish goalkeeper Tomasz Kuszczak on a season-long loan from West Brom, with a view to a possible permanent move.
In exchange, the Baggies will get defender Paul McShane and goalkeeper Luke Steele on a permanent basis.

Kuszczak, 24, will act as understudy to United's first-choice goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar, with youngster Ben Foster staying a second season at Watford.

Kuszczak can stake a claim to be United number one when Van der Sar retires.

The Dutchman is expected to call time on his own career after Euro 2008.

Kuszczak, who has won four caps for Poland, spent three years in Germany with Hertha Berlin before arriving at West Brom two years ago.

Sir Alex Ferguson's attempts to land the keeper had been frustrated throughout the summer, with an initial £2.5m bid rejected.

But with Kuszczak now at Old Trafford, Foster getting Premiership experience with Watford and Tim Howard on loan at Everton, United are hopeful they have enough strength in the goalkeeping department to maintain healthy competition for the next five years at least.

The transfer of Steele is unlikely to go down well with Coventry, who signed the youngster on loan from United.

But the player was recalled, then immediately sold to one of their local Coca-Cola Championship rivals.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 10, 2006, 02:49:50 PM
BBC Sport

Man Utd capture Kuszczak on loan

Manchester United have signed Polish goalkeeper Tomasz Kuszczak on a season-long loan from West Brom, with a view to a possible permanent move.
In exchange, the Baggies will get defender Paul McShane and goalkeeper Luke Steele on a permanent basis.

Kuszczak, 24, will act as understudy to United's first-choice goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar, with youngster Ben Foster staying a second season at Watford.

Kuszczak can stake a claim to be United number one when Van der Sar retires.

The Dutchman is expected to call time on his own career after Euro 2008.

Kuszczak, who has won four caps for Poland, spent three years in Germany with Hertha Berlin before arriving at West Brom two years ago.

Sir Alex Ferguson's attempts to land the keeper had been frustrated throughout the summer, with an initial £2.5m bid rejected.

But with Kuszczak now at Old Trafford, Foster getting Premiership experience with Watford and Tim Howard on loan at Everton, United are hopeful they have enough strength in the goalkeeping department to maintain healthy competition for the next five years at least.

The transfer of Steele is unlikely to go down well with Coventry, who signed the youngster on loan from United.

But the player was recalled, then immediately sold to one of their local Coca-Cola Championship rivals.


United are also leading the race to sign Diarra from Lyon  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:

that is why the Senna move is being put on hold
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: takenoprisoners on August 10, 2006, 03:50:14 PM
Distin in limbo

Sky Sports

Trabelsi seals City move

Manchester City boss Stuart Pearce has continued his squad strengthening at Eastlands with the capture of Tunisian defender Hatem Trabelsi.

The rampaging full back has moved to Manchester on a free transfer from Dutch titans Ajax and has linked up with a squad which has already been swelled by the arrivals of Paul Dickov, Ousmane Dabo, Bernardo Corradi, Dietmar Hamann and Joe Hart.

Trabelsi, who had fitness problems earlier in his career, came through a rigorous medical before committing his future to City and Pearce is happy with his latest recruit.

"He is one of the best Bosmans of the summer," Pearce told the club's website.

"He has played at the highest level for Ajax, and been to three World Cups. He captains his country as well, so it is a good CV."

Trabelsi will increase competition for places at Eastlands, but Pearce will not be forced into underselling his players.

Sylvain Distin is believed to be ready to leave the club, but Pearce will not entertain taking less than market value for the French defender.

"Until people meet our valuation of Sylvain, he will stay where he is, which will only benefit me because he is a good player," said Pearce.

"It would be no skin off my nose if he enters the final year of his contract. I am a football manager, a year is a hell of a long time in football management."
Title: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: ballpiyong on August 15, 2006, 02:00:27 PM
Yeah Fellas its that time, let me hear what allyuh think about the top four finshers & relegated clubs.

My Picks:

Top Four in order 1st to 4th : Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U...

Relegated : Watford, Sheffield Utd, Wigan..

Note: I believe chelsea will do it again this year. Everyone concerned with pre season form but i glad they getting licks now to wake them up and protect against complacency

Liverpool may just miss out again this year, they are building a great squad but they need to fill another quality striking position for this to be a reality.

Arsenal are building a great young team but i think they need another striker to take the load off henry especially if reyes leaves.

I think this is the time that Alex Ferguson really bounce he head by selling off Ruud. He has been the top scorer every year for the team. It seems Alex may really pay this time around, he got away slighty with the falling out with others like Yorkie, Beckham, Stam, Keane.

Let me see what you all think????????
P.S. Dont reply after Bobby Mc Mahon gives predictions on friday night on Fox Sports.!!!
Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: morvant on August 15, 2006, 02:07:00 PM
arsenal beat villa in their last 5 games so i say 2-0
Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 15, 2006, 02:20:01 PM
1st to 4th......... Man Utd...Chelsea...Arsenal...Liverpool

relegated: Watford..Sheffield Utd and Fulham

Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: morvant on August 15, 2006, 02:21:19 PM
1st to 4th......... Man Utd...Chelsea...Arsenal...Liverpool

relegated: Watford..Sheffield Utd and Fulham



meh boy shotta feel sheffield go mash up

i feel dey go pull ah wigan
Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: kicker on August 15, 2006, 02:26:51 PM
Yeah Fellas its that time, let me hear what allyuh think about the top four finshers & relegated clubs.

My Picks:

Top Four in order 1st to 4th : Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U...


What a risk taker you are....those are the most outrageous picks I could imagine in the top 4  :P
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2006, 08:08:18 AM
updating the thread



United offer for Hargreaves

 England midfielder Owen Hargreaves says he is weighing up a lucrative offer for his services from Manchester United.

The Bayern Munich man is expected to team up with Frank Lampard at the heart of The Three Lions' midfield for the friendly against Greece on Wednesday, but has domestic concerns to consider as well.

He has only just signed a contract extension with the Bundesliga giants, but has always wanted to prove himself in England.

It has now emerged that Sir Alex Ferguson has made a concrete offer for the Canadian-born player and Hargreaves is mulling over whether to make a long-awaited move to The Premiership.

"The offer from Manchester United is fantastic," Hargreaves told Sport Bild.

"Particularly as an England international, it is of interest and you never know if such an opportunity will arise again.

"Now is the time to take the next step to develop even further."

With the transfer deadline at the end of the month fast approaching, Ferguson had been tipped to bring in Villarreal's Marcos Senna, but the deal is thought to have stalled on the £8 million asking price for the midfielder.

The Red Devils have therefore turned to Hargreaves to join injured £18.6 million man Michael Carrick at the club.

Munich meanwhile, insist that the 25-year-old will remain at the Allianz Arena for the remainder of his contract.

"I have just spoken with [general manager] Uli Hoeness and he is absolutely clear that selling Owen Hargreaves is not an issue," Bayern press officer Markus Horwick stated.

"I think what Mr Hoeness says is enough to end any speculation.

"Owen Hargreaves will be staying with us for the remaining four years on his contract."

Having lost Michael Ballack already this summer, the German champions seem prepared to dig their heels in to hang on to the key central midfielder and United may now have to concentrate their search for a midfielder further afield.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 16, 2006, 09:04:09 AM
I hope Hargreaves does go to United. Carrick and Hargreaves could well form a formidable partnership for Man U and England.
Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: dwn on August 16, 2006, 09:10:38 AM
I think Tottenham will upset that top 4.

I dont think Chelsea is going to win again.



Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2006, 09:24:42 AM
yeh it will help england  because they will get experience club wise and that could only enhance england's team
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: ndookie on August 16, 2006, 10:30:20 AM
It will help Manchester United too , give a strong midfield that win and keep possesion a bit more than last years midfield does , because that is really the key for united .. because overall , the team is a winner , always was and always will be , so expect good things this season..

Speaking of Man Utd , anyone know the cost to buy the games on PPV from Columbus Communications ?

Ah fed up waiting to see replay ah match..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2006, 10:32:10 AM
It will help Manchester United too , give a strong midfield that win and keep possesion a bit more than last years midfield does , because that is really the key for united .. because overall , the team is a winner , always was and always will be , so expect good things this season..

Speaking of Man Utd , anyone know the cost to buy the games on PPV from Columbus Communications ?

Ah fed up waiting to see replay ah match..

it doesnt matter....setanta sports got all the games now... ppv doesnt make a difference....   
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: ndookie on August 16, 2006, 10:41:56 AM
Setanta Sports ?

Tell me more..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2006, 10:47:42 AM
Direct TV    ...... channel 615....  dont think dey have it in TnT   ......  if dey do i will buy Direct TV 2day  das nah a lie
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: ndookie on August 16, 2006, 10:58:12 AM
If that really on Direct tell meh eh , because Direct en that expensive , and ah mean , IS ALL THE MAN U games , thas priceles..

Anybody here working Direct TV ?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2006, 11:10:13 AM
If that really on Direct tell meh eh , because Direct en that expensive , and ah mean , IS ALL THE MAN U games , thas priceles..

Anybody here working Direct TV ?

yeh if yuh cud get Setanta Sports in tnt  on direct tv   i for one willllll buy direct tv.....   
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: ndookie on August 16, 2006, 11:45:22 AM
Wednesday, August 16, 2006
   Channel #   Channel Name    13:30-14:00   14:00-14:30   14:30-15:00   
15:00-15:30   
varied..
   217   FX    .   FX Fuel Deportes Extremos    FX Speed
deportes
   606   FOXS     Fútbol para todos   .
   612   ESPI     Tenis - A.T.P. Masters Series
   614   ESP2     Mexican Football Weekly Show   ATV Racing    Fútbol amistoso Internacional
   616   GOLF     European Tour: KLM Open
   652   BEIS     Today Chicago Cubs v Houston Astros    Chicago Cubs v Houston Astros
mundos
   766   RAI    .    Italia - Croazia
   776   GLBO    .    Futebol Amistoso

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

No setanta.. Anyone else does carry it ?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2006, 04:46:53 PM
Setanta is on Direct TV....   but u have to order it... it doesnt come with Direct TV....  but i dont think you cud get Setanta in TnT ....     why u doe give dem a call 2moro
Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: ndookie on August 16, 2006, 10:52:08 PM
Man Utd winning .. everything else doh matter..

And Man Utd 2 - Fulham - 0.
Title: Re: EPL Season this weekend : Predictions Anyone?? Who knows Their Football!!
Post by: andre samuel on August 17, 2006, 06:07:47 AM
1. Chelsea
2. Liverpool
3. Arsenal
4. Tottenham
5. Man United

18. Fulham
19. Watford
20. Reading

Sheffield going make ah big run............dey coach good!!

ah love it!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Remie on August 17, 2006, 08:05:58 AM
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Portsmouth
6. Spurs (my team)

18. Man City
19. Fulham
20. Sheff Utd
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 17, 2006, 08:47:30 AM
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Portsmouth
6. Spurs (my team)

18. Man City
19. Fulham
20. Sheff Utd

I like that, wish I was as optimistic as you are ;D

I predict

1 Liverpool
2 Chelsea
3 Man U
4 Tottenham
5 Arsenal

8 Portsmouth

17 Reading
18 Watford
19 Fulham
20 Sheffield United
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 17, 2006, 08:47:59 AM
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Portsmouth
6. Spurs (my team)

18. Man City 
19. Fulham
20. Sheff Utd

wud i love to see that!!!........   


 man utd second   :-[     first biatch  ;)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Remie on August 17, 2006, 09:00:26 AM
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Portsmouth
6. Spurs (my team)

18. Man City
19. Fulham
20. Sheff Utd

I like that, wish I was as optimistic as you are ;D

I predict

1 Liverpool
2 Chelsea
3 Man U
4 Tottenham
5 Arsenal

8 Portsmouth

17 Reading
18 Watford
19 Fulham
20 Sheffield United

Harry is a top class boss with plenty money at his disposal. Now that players of the calibre of Campbell have signed i can see more players being attracted to Pompey. If Harry can get another striker in like Yakubu then i can definately see them being up there. Spurs need to sign a left mid quickly. We played Davids left mid for the whole of last season!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 17, 2006, 09:54:52 AM
If we can get Obafemi Martins, Sully Muntari and Manuel Fernandes then a EUFA spot is a definate possibility.

we have made the best offer for Martins, it is just a case of persuading him he doesn't want to play CL football for a couple of seasons.

hopefully he is greedy and will take our offer.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: ribbit on August 17, 2006, 08:17:30 PM
If we can get Obafemi Martins, Sully Muntari and Manuel Fernandes then a EUFA spot is a definate possibility.

we have made the best offer for Martins, it is just a case of persuading him he doesn't want to play CL football for a couple of seasons.

hopefully he is greedy and will take our offer.

looks like they signed kanu.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 18, 2006, 02:18:00 AM
If we can get Obafemi Martins, Sully Muntari and Manuel Fernandes then a EUFA spot is a definate possibility.

we have made the best offer for Martins, it is just a case of persuading him he doesn't want to play CL football for a couple of seasons.

hopefully he is greedy and will take our offer.

looks like they signed kanu.

Kanu is very well respected in Nigeria. hopefully that will help persuade Martins to jon us.

Beers are on me if we do :cheers:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 18, 2006, 07:56:11 PM
here's my predictions for this weekend games

Arsenal vs Aston Villa = 3-1
Blackburn vs Pompey = 1-1
Bolton vs Hotspurs = 0-3
Charlton vs West Ham = 2-1
Chelsea vs Man City = 4-1
Everton vs Watford = 2-2
Fulham vs Man U = 0-3
Liverpool vs Sheffield = 4-0
Middlesborough vs Reading = 1-0
Newcastle vs Wigan = 3-0
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 18, 2006, 08:38:01 PM
WE NEED LIVE STREAMS FOR THIS WEEKEND


especially Utd vs Fulham......    TnT gets no games now cuz of Setanta.....   in tnt 2moro   games dat showing

Saturday

10 am live   Newcastle v Wigan

12 15 live   Bolton v Spurs

2 15 Delayed   Reading v Boro

Sunday

11 00 Live  Chelsea v Mancity







I would like to wake up an see live streams for

1) Liverpool v Sheffield Utd    7 30 am live  setanta

2) Arsenal v Aston Villa     10 am live  setanta

sunday

3) Utd v Fulham.... 8 30 am live   setanta....PLESE HELP SMALL MAG!!!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 19, 2006, 05:18:57 AM
If we can get Obafemi Martins, Sully Muntari and Manuel Fernandes then a EUFA spot is a definate possibility.

we have made the best offer for Martins, it is just a case of persuading him he doesn't want to play CL football for a couple of seasons.

hopefully he is greedy and will take our offer.

looks like they signed kanu.



Kanu is very well respected in Nigeria. hopefully that will help persuade Martins to jon us.

Beers are on me if we do :cheers:


i wanted martins 2 come 2 newcastle..he looks a good player. But then all this stuff about him being 6 years older than he actually is?..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 19, 2006, 05:23:19 AM
Season starting in bout 15 mintues and ah still have yampee in meh eye lol
ah ent able with this tgetting up too early on Saturday morning nah lol

Jub whats Newcastle starting team today?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 19, 2006, 05:33:59 AM
http://www.footballstreamslive.com/



nice thing dere man.....    i have sopcast so i just connecting d channel which playing d games......


looks like guandong showing d sheffield v liverpool  :beermug:   and dey supposed to show arsenal v villa
 
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 19, 2006, 05:37:58 AM
Setanta not even showing facking Liverpool vs Sheffield as they supposed to..must be technical difficulties or some shit..steups
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 19, 2006, 05:41:33 AM
stewps   what f**king FSC posers lol


neway if you live abroad and experience fast broadband well sopcast will be a dream come true for you.....   i have normal dsl and guandong running good good....   espn taking a while to start  but i trying it cuz i rather hear english dan whang dong whang chan dip lee suzuki lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 19, 2006, 05:51:50 AM
ok game start on Setanta now..ah guees ah had meh times mixed up  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: freakazoid on August 19, 2006, 06:07:22 AM
look out 4  a playa name tonge from shefield utd
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 19, 2006, 07:44:58 AM
SHEFFIELD!!!  :beermug:

1-1 FT....
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 19, 2006, 08:31:02 AM
Season starting in bout 15 mintues and ah still have yampee in meh eye lol
ah ent able with this tgetting up too early on Saturday morning nah lol

Jub whats Newcastle starting team today?

Given

Bramble
Moore
Carr
Babayaro

Butt
Solano
Emre
Parker

Duff
Ameobi

..N'zogbia come on for Duff 16 mins in. N zog shud be starting anyway.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 19, 2006, 08:31:39 AM
Sorry Bout that..
I mean N'zogbia came on for BUTT 16 mins in..not duff (confusing)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 19, 2006, 10:00:18 AM
Some confusing results so far..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Midknight on August 19, 2006, 10:03:31 AM
If we can get Obafemi Martins, Sully Muntari and Manuel Fernandes then a EUFA spot is a definate possibility.

we have made the best offer for Martins, it is just a case of persuading him he doesn't want to play CL football for a couple of seasons.

hopefully he is greedy and will take our offer.

looks like they signed kanu.

looks like they made a good decision. he just failed to get a hatrick by missing a penalty he earned himself  :o

I sure wish i could have seen that reading match though...
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: triniairman on August 19, 2006, 12:35:14 PM
The game between Bolton and Tottenham was ah surprise to me,with all them big players Tottenham got they could not beat Bolton who got two good goals,and on top of that Diouf hitting man drag through out the game.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: FF on August 19, 2006, 01:44:59 PM
The game between Bolton and Tottenham was ah surprise to me,with all them big players Tottenham got they could not beat Bolton who got two good goals,and on top of that Diouf hitting man drag through out the game.

No surprise... they dont call it Fortress Reebock for nothing....

tottenham havent beaten bolton there for five seasons straight now!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: andre samuel on August 20, 2006, 06:45:31 AM
here's my predictions for this weekend games

1. Arsenal vs Aston Villa = 3-1
2. Blackburn vs Pompey = 1-1
3. Bolton vs Hotspurs = 0-3
4.Charlton vs West Ham = 2-1
5. Chelsea vs Man City = 4-1
6. Everton vs Watford = 2-2
7. Fulham vs Man U = 0-3
8. Liverpool vs Sheffield = 4-0
9. Middlesborough vs Reading = 1-0
10. Newcastle vs Wigan = 3-0

Spanish.........let meh see how yuh looking so far....

Wrong Predictions - 7 (ah just checking results, not de score)

Correct Predictions - 1

Pending Games - 2

ah watching yuh predicitons and ah seeing yuh last in de league, tings ent looking so good with you this year or what??.......lol

ah love it!!

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 20, 2006, 06:51:12 AM
here's my predictions for this weekend games

1. Arsenal vs Aston Villa = 3-1
2. Blackburn vs Pompey = 1-1
3. Bolton vs Hotspurs = 0-3
4.Charlton vs West Ham = 2-1
5. Chelsea vs Man City = 4-1
6. Everton vs Watford = 2-2
7. Fulham vs Man U = 0-3
8. Liverpool vs Sheffield = 4-0
9. Middlesborough vs Reading = 1-0
10. Newcastle vs Wigan = 3-0

Spanish.........let meh see how yuh looking so far....

Wrong Predictions - 7 (ah just checking results, not de score)

Correct Predictions - 1

Pending Games - 2

ah watching yuh predicitons and ah seeing yuh last in de league, tings ent looking so good with you this year or what??.......lol

ah love it!!

well yes  ;D
ah trying tuh throw allyuh off meh back lol

but look at it.. Arsenal shoulda hit Villa bout 4 lol
Liverpool, Spurs and Blackburn just didnt show up.
i sure a lot of us was surpised by Pompey.
Everton get a theif penalty too lol
them excuses good enough? ;D

well ah sure ah getting the Man U result fuh sure after that start they have 4-0 already lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: troy piloy on August 20, 2006, 06:58:26 AM
Man U score 4 goals in the 1st 20mins.

Like Alex aint taking any prisoners this season.

Man U ain't want to end up like Liverpool and Arsenal yesterday

Troy 8)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Blue on August 20, 2006, 07:00:01 AM
Man U score 4 goals in the 1st 20mins.

Like Alex aint taking any prisoners this season.

Man U ain't want to end up like Liverpool and Arsenal yesterday

Troy 8)

Looks like they'll be taking the precious runner-up spot this season.  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: daryn on August 22, 2006, 06:09:18 AM
If we can get Obafemi Martins, Sully Muntari and Manuel Fernandes then a EUFA spot is a definate possibility.

we have made the best offer for Martins, it is just a case of persuading him he doesn't want to play CL football for a couple of seasons.

hopefully he is greedy and will take our offer.

looks like they signed kanu.

Kanu is very well respected in Nigeria. hopefully that will help persuade Martins to jon us.

Beers are on me if we do :cheers:

Newcastle agree £10 million fee for Inter's Martins
soccernet.com

Newcastle are understood to have agreed a £10million fee with Inter Milan for Nigerian striker Obafemi Martins.

(http://soccernet-att.espn.go.com/design05/images/JonMC/Martins-205-Nigeria.jpg)


The player's representative has been on Tyneside and has now returned to Italy to discuss the offer with his client.

'I can confirm we have agreed a fee with Inter Milan for Obafemi Martins,' Newcastle chairman Freddy Shepherd told the club's website.

'It is now up to the player and the agent to agree terms on the offer.'

Martins yesterday revealed that a deal was 80% done, and Magpies chairman Freddy Shepherd and manager Glenn Roeder will hope to finalise the transfer as they attempt to find a replacement for retired captain Alan Shearer.

Roeder has turned to the Inter Milan striker after being warned off Germany forward Miroslav Klose.

Martins himself seems keen to head for England, with the 21-year-old saying yesterday: 'I'm close to moving to Newcastle despite all the initial setbacks. Eighty per cent of the deal with Newcastle is completed.

'Playing in the Premiership has been a long-term ambition and I am extremely delighted with the prospect of concluding that in the next couple of days.'

Shepherd may have more cash to play with should misfit Jean-Alain Boumsong complete a proposed £4.5million move to Juventus.

The north-east club are desperate for a top-drawer striker. Alan Shearer has retired while England forward Michael Owen is not expected back until 2007 after his World Cup knee injury.

The 21-year-old Martins, who joined Inter in 2002, is a powerfully built forward who can run at defences.

In December last year he extended his Inter contract until 2010 but the close-season acquisitions of Argentina striker Hernan Crespo from English champions Chelsea and Sweden frontman Zlatan Ibrahimovic from Juventus, in the wake of Italy's match-fixing scandal, have pushed him down the pecking order.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 22, 2006, 07:05:07 AM
BIG TWIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Pompey Renew Bid to Snatch away Martins

 Skysports.com understand that Portsmouth have made a renewed bid to snatch Obafemi Martins from under the noses of Newcastle.

We revealed on Sunday that a €16 million (£10.9 million) deal had been struck between Newcastle and Internazionale for the Nigerian striker.

"I can confirm we have agreed a fee with Inter Milan for Obafemi Martins," chairman Freddy Shepherd told the club's website.

"It is now up to the player and the agent to agree terms on offer."

However, it can now be revealed that Pompey have not given up hope of landing Martins and have now made a fresh bid - with an increased offer of personal terms.

It is now believed that Martins is seriously considering making the move to Fratton Park rather than St James' Park.

Newcastle held lengthy discussions over the weekend with Martins's representatives and progress was made. But nothing was signed and that has given Portsmouth the opportunity they needed to make their move.

While Newcastle can offer Martins big wages, they cannot live with the new found financial power of Pompey - who are now bankrolled by Alexandre Gaydamak.


source- skysports.com



Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 22, 2006, 07:20:27 AM
 :praying: :nailbiting:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: supporter on August 22, 2006, 07:27:30 AM
portsmouth really trying to pretend to be a big club since their new russian daddy came in. but they did look really good last weekend and have made some good moves, especially on the backline. adding martins will be huge if they could pull it off.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 22, 2006, 08:36:04 AM
 :praying:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Peong on August 22, 2006, 01:58:29 PM
I see Juve sign Boumsong.  Is he really worth 5 million Euros?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Midknight on August 22, 2006, 02:18:28 PM
I see Juve sign Boumsong.  Is he really worth 5 million Euros?

hell no...
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 22, 2006, 02:46:36 PM
I see Juve sign Boumsong.  Is he really worth 5 million Euros?

hell no...

hell hell hell no
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 22, 2006, 05:22:55 PM
I see Juve sign Boumsong.  Is he really worth 5 million Euros?

hell no...

hell hell hell no

all ah could say is..GOOD RIDDANCE!!!
and ah woulda like tuh see him join Arsenal though  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: daryn on August 23, 2006, 03:00:04 PM
yeah well chelsea just get licks.  give up 2 late goals to boro
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 23, 2006, 03:11:47 PM
yeah well chelsea just get licks.  give up 2 late goals to boro

chelsea comin bak quarter way thru league big time i feel give a shock to man u .
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 23, 2006, 03:29:24 PM
HAHAHA GLORY GLORY BORO BORO BORO BORO BORO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MAN UTD 3   CHARLTON 0

CHELSKI 1      BORO 2


UTD 8 GOALS 2 GAMES!!!   6 PTS!!   1ST!!

GLORY GLORY
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 23, 2006, 04:03:28 PM
some piks

by the way  that away kit is so flikin dread  :D :D

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705490.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705452.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705729.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705246.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705236.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705171.jpg)




 ;)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/nice.jpg)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on August 23, 2006, 04:19:03 PM
Plenty pics a Ronaldo dey smallie.  All forgiven or wha?  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Grande on August 23, 2006, 04:30:00 PM
yeah the kit bad in truth. Small mag yuh eh realize de AIG stand for "Arsenal Is Great" or what
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 23, 2006, 04:36:44 PM
yeah the kit bad in truth. Small mag yuh eh realize de AIG stand for "Arsenal Is Great" or what

yuh mean Arsenal is GAY!!!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: supporter on August 24, 2006, 06:32:48 AM
Ben Thatcher should be banned from football for weeks after his tackle on Pedro Mendes.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Remie on August 24, 2006, 07:24:52 AM
Every season Thatcher never lets us down with his 'thugery'. And to think Spurs actually paid £5m for him.

PS Pompey, do believe me now when i said Portsmouth were gonna finish 5th?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Cantona007 on August 24, 2006, 08:59:58 AM
Thanks for the pics, Small Mag. It is good to see 20Legend scoring again... fire for all this season.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 24, 2006, 09:55:30 AM
Obafemi Martins arrive at Newcastle for a medical  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 24, 2006, 03:37:23 PM
Every season Thatcher never lets us down with his 'thugery'. And to think Spurs actually paid £5m for him.

PS Pompey, do believe me now when i said Portsmouth were gonna finish 5th?

I'm starting to believe, although it will be harder without our play maker for a few games. Every time I see the incident it looks worse, apparantly Man City fans have reported seeing an assault and teh police are obliged to follow it up so Ben Thatcher may be looking at a lot more than a telling off from the FA.

Mind you, he did the same to Nicky Sommerbee when he was at Wimbledon, he managed to puncture someones lung in a pre-season friendly in Korea and that his third attempt at elbowing someone last night.

Nice bloke Ben Thatcher ::)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 24, 2006, 03:48:13 PM
For any who intrested..  ;D
Obafemi Martins was unveiled at the Newcastle United v Fk Ventspils match ( he jus walk around n stuff ) . Damn im happy now..if he get injured i am cursed.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 24, 2006, 06:12:50 PM
For any who intrested..  ;D
Obafemi Martins was unveiled at the Newcastle United v Fk Ventspils match ( he jus walk around n stuff ) . Damn im happy now..if he get injured i am cursed.
what number he goiing to wear?
ah ent think he good enought tuh wear Shearer No.9 at the moment..but we go see
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on August 24, 2006, 06:14:35 PM
[what number he goiing to wear?
ah ent think he good enought tuh wear Shearer No.9 at the moment..but we go see

So they should perhaps play with 10 men?  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 24, 2006, 06:47:10 PM
[what number he goiing to wear?
ah ent think he good enought tuh wear Shearer No.9 at the moment..but we go see

So they should perhaps play with 10 men?  ;D
doh worry..we go know who is de second coming of Shearer when we see him lol
but then again there is only one Alan Shearer right  ;D

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 26, 2006, 08:56:03 AM
For any who intrested..  ;D
Obafemi Martins was unveiled at the Newcastle United v Fk Ventspils match ( he jus walk around n stuff ) . Damn im happy now..if he get injured i am cursed.
what number he goiing to wear?
ah ent think he good enought tuh wear Shearer No.9 at the moment..but we go see

he got de 9 shirt.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 26, 2006, 10:01:29 AM
Watford 1    UTD 2.... FT

3 in 3......  Silvestre 12' Giggs 52'  .... nice preformance... after the second goal we locked up the defence


We're Gonna Win The League...We're Gonna Win The League.... UTD UTD UTD!!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: dumpalewie on August 26, 2006, 10:09:08 AM
Plenty pics a Ronaldo dey smallie.  All forgiven or wha?  ;D
Small Mag I ent see you answer this yet!!! ::)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 26, 2006, 10:18:56 AM
Watford 1    UTD 2.... FT

3 in 3......  Silvestre 12' Giggs 52'  .... nice preformance... after the second goal we locked up the defence


We're Gonna Win The League...We're Gonna Win The League.... Newcastle UTD UTD UTD!!

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Ponnoxx on August 26, 2006, 11:09:23 AM
 I backing Newcastle for EPL success this season
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: supporter on August 26, 2006, 04:19:07 PM
Manchester United will WIN the EPL this season. Mark my words

Also, Andrew Johnson is the best pickup of any English club this year. Everton look good.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 26, 2006, 04:37:59 PM
For any who intrested..  ;D
Obafemi Martins was unveiled at the Newcastle United v Fk Ventspils match ( he jus walk around n stuff ) . Damn im happy now..if he get injured i am cursed.
what number he goiing to wear?
ah ent think he good enought tuh wear Shearer No.9 at the moment..but we go see

he got de 9 shirt.
steups..i ent think he is a good enough finisher..just another real fast player who does get lucky most of the times.
he better start with some goals tomorrow yes
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 26, 2006, 05:40:32 PM
For any who intrested..  ;D
Obafemi Martins was unveiled at the Newcastle United v Fk Ventspils match ( he jus walk around n stuff ) . Damn im happy now..if he get injured i am cursed.
what number he goiing to wear?
ah ent think he good enought tuh wear Shearer No.9 at the moment..but we go see

he got de 9 shirt.
steups..i ent think he is a good enough finisher..just another real fast player who does get lucky most of the times.
he better start with some goals tomorrow yes
if he jus another fast player den i vex.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 26, 2006, 05:56:06 PM
Manchester United will WIN the EPL this season. Mark my words

Also, Andrew Johnson is the best pickup of any English club this year. Everton look good.

a wise man...


yes andrew johnson is the buy of the premier league so far....  ps merseyside blue are looking dangerous   far more potent dan chelski and assanal
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on August 26, 2006, 06:17:26 PM
Manchester United will WIN the EPL this season. Mark my words

Also, Andrew Johnson is the best pickup of any English club this year. Everton look good.

a wise man...


yes andrew johnson is the buy of the premier league so far....  ps merseyside blue are looking dangerous   far more potent dan chelski and assanal
Wow they beat Tottenham & Watford.
 ::)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 26, 2006, 06:20:11 PM
Wow dey also went Blackburn and got a point ...   7 pts from 3 games is fantastic.....

y dont you hush yuh f**king mouth you assanal gunnar fag!..  1 pt from 2 games       17th in the table   can you speak ....?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 26, 2006, 06:24:02 PM
Wow dey also went Blackburn and got a point ...   7 pts from 3 games is fantastic.....

y dont you hush yuh f**king mouth you assanal gunnar fag!..  1 pt from 2 games       17th in the table   can you speak ....?
at dis rate..Arsenal might not even be in contention for de Intertoto  ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 26, 2006, 06:32:35 PM
ok man...  great great... .....but unlike utd  we have the class to lose a opening day game and win the league    arsenal doesnt....

great talking with you fag bag...    enjoy your uefa cup 6th placed season

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 26, 2006, 06:48:15 PM
ok man...  great great... .....but unlike utd  we have the class to lose a opening day game and win the league    arsenal doesnt....

great talking with you fag bag...    enjoy your uefa cup 6th placed season


You know what I don't need to bother wid because your a waggonist. You wish you were born in England like me, thats why you always going England 4 Lyfe You NF. You Can't Have Yuh Shoe In Two Places Like Me. Begger I got pain proof of ur foolishness, you have Jack Shit.

I was born & raised in North London, Arsenal Manor

Where were you? (Btw this is not a shot at Everyone, Just Eediat bwoy and his nonsense)
Support Your Local League Boi, I hardly see you talk about that in the PFL threads.

Wasteman :rotfl:


nah i will support my club in england....     secondly i glad i am a trini  but i lov england...   the passion is what excites me about the place....   2006 has been great in tnt... because we finnaly felt a hint of passion....

as you can tell i am passionate about the teams i like.....     

call me a waggonist if you like... but tnt is my home and if you realy know me  you no i just rite england 4 life to annoy palos....   


but let me tell you something i am not a waggonman....    anyway i will continue to support england and UTD to the upmost because i am very passionate towarsds patriotism.......and you being english should be proud of that


i done discussion now....   i'll be the bigger man and end the feud

Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 26, 2006, 06:58:47 PM
Wow dey also went Blackburn and got a point ...   7 pts from 3 games is fantastic.....

y dont you hush yuh f**king mouth you assanal gunnar fag!..  1 pt from 2 games       17th in the table   can you speak ....?

u sound like a man u thug. did u learn how to be one from supportin de team?  ???
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on August 26, 2006, 07:00:47 PM
Wow dey also went Blackburn and got a point ...   7 pts from 3 games is fantastic.....

y dont you hush yuh f**king mouth you assanal gunnar fag!..  1 pt from 2 games       17th in the table   can you speak ....?

u sound like a man u thug. did u learn how to be one from supportin de team?  ???
Jub02 Dead It Please :rotfl: Yuh Nah See Me Delete my posts to stop this chupidness :rotfl:

You Got Martins? How Do You Feel? All That Pace He Gonna Run The Ball off The Pitch ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 26, 2006, 07:03:52 PM
nah i will support my club in england....     secondly i glad i am a trini  but i lov england...   the passion is what excites me about the place....   2006 has been great in tnt... because we finnaly felt a hint of passion....

as you can tell i am passionate about the teams i like.....     

call me a waggonist if you like... but tnt is my home and if you realy know me  you no i just rite england 4 life to annoy palos....   


but let me tell you something i am not a waggonman....    anyway i will continue to support england and UTD to the upmost because i am very passionate towarsds patriotism.......and you being english should be proud of that


i done discussion now....   i'll be the bigger man and end the feud



Bruv, Same Reason I said this To You, You Don't Know Jack. My Nick Name Is ''British-Wadadlian-Nutmegger A.K.A BGN'' So I know I Who I Repping my screen name is Carib-BRITON for goodness sake. You Repping England you not from there or have roots here (So I Assume By Man Dem Response on here). That England 4 Lyfe Chant is a chant used by RACISTS, I educating you and you ent listening but you carry on and stay like them ediats, thats why I laughing at you not because I particular wanted to pop shots at you (You brought the stupidness first remember that, Mainly I was WINDIN YOU UP! ;D I believe it worked ;D)

I have no time for arguement, My girl calling me, I just come back from Panaroma and Notting Hill 2 moro and Monday for me so I want my rest.

Just to Stay On Topic, If Not Arsenal(As Im an Arsenal Supporter and must believe in my team) Liverpool for the Title.

ok cool man..... thanks for educating me lol.....   i still learning.. i young and passionate....   



and jub   i am just a trini hoo supports utd...  with a mouth and trini inside  i guess i mite seem like a utd thug lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on August 26, 2006, 07:08:00 PM
nah i will support my club in england....     secondly i glad i am a trini  but i lov england...   the passion is what excites me about the place....   2006 has been great in tnt... because we finnaly felt a hint of passion....

as you can tell i am passionate about the teams i like.....     

call me a waggonist if you like... but tnt is my home and if you realy know me  you no i just rite england 4 life to annoy palos....   


but let me tell you something i am not a waggonman....    anyway i will continue to support england and UTD to the upmost because i am very passionate towarsds patriotism.......and you being english should be proud of that


i done discussion now....   i'll be the bigger man and end the feud



Bruv, Same Reason I said this To You, You Don't Know Jack. My Nick Name Is ''British-Wadadlian-Nutmegger A.K.A BGN'' So I know I Who I Repping my screen name is Carib-BRITON for goodness sake. You Repping England you not from there or have roots here (So I Assume By Man Dem Response on here). That England 4 Lyfe Chant is a chant used by RACISTS, I educating you and you ent listening but you carry on and stay like them ediats, thats why I laughing at you not because I particular wanted to pop shots at you (You brought the stupidness first remember that, Mainly I was WINDIN YOU UP! ;D I believe it worked ;D)

I have no time for arguement, My girl calling me, I just come back from Panaroma and Notting Hill 2 moro and Monday for me so I want my rest.

Just to Stay On Topic, If Not Arsenal(As Im an Arsenal Supporter and must believe in my team) Liverpool for the Title.

ok cool man..... thanks for educating me lol.....   i still learning.. i young and passionate....   



and jub   i am just a trini hoo supports utd...  with a mouth and trini inside  i guess i mite seem like a utd thug lol

I still young too and people on here have educated me too, I do stupid things as well, Even Triniman has helped me out when I was being silly (He Probably Would of Told Me Off Just For Now), and hes a Canadian ;D (Sorry I Couldn't Help It)
Hes My On-Site Uncle ;D

I was windin you up with that supporting crap, if that was the true I would be a waggonist of the SocaWarriors and plus Man U & England wouldnt make so much money from shirt sells ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 26, 2006, 07:24:19 PM
Wow dey also went Blackburn and got a point ...   7 pts from 3 games is fantastic.....

y dont you hush yuh f**king mouth you assanal gunnar fag!..  1 pt from 2 games       17th in the table   can you speak ....?

u sound like a man u thug. did u learn how to be one from supportin de team?  ???
Jub02 Dead It Please :rotfl: Yuh Nah See Me Delete my posts to stop this chupidness :rotfl:

You Got Martins? How Do You Feel? All That Pace He Gonna Run The Ball off The Pitch ;D

Lol . i happy bout dat. but jus sometime i get vex coz ppl start chattin crazy ...i understand yuh small mag..yuh very passionate  ;) lol

but i do love arsenal aswell as newcastle . i hope dey do well. i ent too bothered if man u do well..jus de fans pee me off sometime. chelsea fans aint so bad..i noe some is glory supporters but dey dont act so arrogant....sooner or later dey will and dey will be the most hated team in england ( currently its still man  u ).

this is wot i wud LIKE to see : ( i be realistic i noe newcastle aint gon win de league)
1. Arsenal
2. Liverpool
3.Chelsea
4.Man U

Dis wot i THINK it be like

1.Chelsea
2.Man U
3.Liverpool
4.Arsenal


Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: supporter on August 27, 2006, 05:30:41 AM
Wow dey also went Blackburn and got a point ...   7 pts from 3 games is fantastic.....

y dont you hush yuh f**king mouth you assanal gunnar fag!..  1 pt from 2 games       17th in the table   can you speak ....?
at dis rate..Arsenal might not even be in contention for de Intertoto  ;D

right now arsenal go hadda settle for de intertotey
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 27, 2006, 07:41:56 AM
Newcastle 2 0 down almost half time  :'( dey hav all de possession and villa had like 2 shots...which lead to the 2 goals....bit like arsneal game yesterday..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 27, 2006, 08:28:23 AM
Martins gone off on a stretcher...i am cursed. :o >:(
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 27, 2006, 08:32:11 AM
For any who intrested..  ;D
Obafemi Martins was unveiled at the Newcastle United v Fk Ventspils match ( he jus walk around n stuff ) . Damn im happy now..if he get injured i am cursed.


YOU BLIGHT THE MAN......  ONLY YOURSELF TO BLAME LOL
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 27, 2006, 08:36:25 AM
Martins gone off on a stretcher...i am cursed. :o >:(
yeah..but what he do so far in this game?..NOUGHT!!!..steups..waste of money
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 27, 2006, 09:08:45 AM
Chelsea vs Blackburn

all ah want is goals by Lampard, Shevchenko and another Bridge cross lol
is bout time Gamst-Pedersen start doing something this season too lol..good thing ah didnt buy him at dat price lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 27, 2006, 03:19:54 PM
Chelsea vs Blackburn

all ah want is goals by Lampard, Shevchenko and another Bridge cross lol
is bout time Gamst-Pedersen start doing something this season too lol..good thing ah didnt buy him at dat price lol

Lampard n Drogba..chelsea luk gd.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on August 27, 2006, 03:22:15 PM
In the Chelsea vs Blackburn match today, I was quite impressed by a player called David Bentley....right back for Blackburn.  Excellent crossing....some of the best crosses I've seen in the English game since Beckham....have a good engine.....and his overall technique on the ball is very good.  One to look at.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 27, 2006, 03:25:45 PM
I dissapointed with newcastle performance..dey keep playing like dis..good passing, good movement..but dey jus aint scorin.. dey got good widemen with nobody to finish..i think martins wil get better but he aint doin so good  jus yet.. ( his injury aint so bad he shud be good for next game it was a " dead leg "...the man went off on a stretcher for dat? :-\) .. anyway i still gd about it coz we only a lil way in the season and de team look good ..jus need someone to finish..
chelsea look good today doe
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 27, 2006, 04:01:41 PM
In the Chelsea vs Blackburn match today, I was quite impressed by a player called David Bentley....right back for Blackburn.  Excellent crossing....some of the best crosses I've seen in the English game since Beckham....have a good engine.....and his overall technique on the ball is very good.  One to look at.

yuh just saying that cause he's ex-Assanal  ;D
Emerton was right back btw..same man who tell Bobby Robson he ent coing England to play right back lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 27, 2006, 04:44:12 PM
nah i will support my club in england....     secondly i glad i am a trini  but i lov england...   the passion is what excites me about the place....   2006 has been great in tnt... because we finnaly felt a hint of passion....

as you can tell i am passionate about the teams i like.....     

call me a waggonist if you like... but tnt is my home and if you realy know me  you no i just rite england 4 life to annoy palos....   


but let me tell you something i am not a waggonman....    anyway i will continue to support england and UTD to the upmost because i am very passionate towarsds patriotism.......and you being english should be proud of that


i done discussion now....   i'll be the bigger man and end the feud



Bruv, Same Reason I said this To You, You Don't Know Jack. My Nick Name Is ''British-Wadadlian-Nutmegger A.K.A BGN'' So I know I Who I Repping my screen name is Carib-BRITON for goodness sake. You Repping England you not from there or have roots here (So I Assume By Man Dem Response on here). That England 4 Lyfe Chant is a chant used by RACISTS, I educating you and you ent listening but you carry on and stay like them ediats, thats why I laughing at you not because I particular wanted to pop shots at you (You brought the stupidness first remember that, Mainly I was WINDIN YOU UP! ;D I believe it worked ;D)

I have no time for arguement, My girl calling me, I just come back from Panaroma and Notting Hill 2 moro and Monday for me so I want my rest.

Just to Stay On Topic, If Not Arsenal(As Im an Arsenal Supporter and must believe in my team) Liverpool for the Title.

Try evening primrose oil, it helps with the PMT ;) :rotfl:

I chant england 4 Life and I aint no racist, Patriotic yes, but not racist. You surprise me, you are quenching Small Mag's passion and you are the most passionate poster on this forum :peace:

Anyway, the also rans have all played their games today, the big boys kick off Monday night ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on August 27, 2006, 04:58:04 PM
In the Chelsea vs Blackburn match today, I was quite impressed by a player called David Bentley....right back for Blackburn.  Excellent crossing....some of the best crosses I've seen in the English game since Beckham....have a good engine.....and his overall technique on the ball is very good.  One to look at.

yuh just saying that cause he's ex-Assanal  ;D
Emerton was right back btw..same man who tell Bobby Robson he ent coing England to play right back lol

Had no idea he was once an Arsenal player.  That explains why he's such a decent player. 
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 27, 2006, 05:58:59 PM
In the Chelsea vs Blackburn match today, I was quite impressed by a player called David Bentley....right back for Blackburn.  Excellent crossing....some of the best crosses I've seen in the English game since Beckham....have a good engine.....and his overall technique on the ball is very good.  One to look at.

yuh just saying that cause he's ex-Assanal  ;D
Emerton was right back btw..same man who tell Bobby Robson he ent coing England to play right back lol

Had no idea he was once an Arsenal player.  That explains why he's such a decent player. 

Palos..whaz dah one?? ;D
lawd..yuh is ah waggonist or what?  :rotfl:
Bentley only leave Assanal year before..was on a season loan at Norwich then went to Blackburn permanently at the start of this year.
he's the man who hit the hattrick against Man U the other day too lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 27, 2006, 06:13:48 PM
In the Chelsea vs Blackburn match today, I was quite impressed by a player called David Bentley....right back for Blackburn.  Excellent crossing....some of the best crosses I've seen in the English game since Beckham....have a good engine.....and his overall technique on the ball is very good.  One to look at.

  If i'm not mistaken I think the commentators had him pegged for the Man-of-the-Match award. He played a clean, solid game. 
    Also, despite his OBVIOUS flaws, (too much semantics, sometimes, diving, etc.) I am glad to see that the Chelsea fans (at least so it appears on tv) are beginning to appreciate Drogba for what he brings to this team.  The goal he scored was a remarkable effort and if he would work on his finishing, he can easily be a perennial top scorer in this league.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: JDB on August 27, 2006, 06:53:52 PM
It easy for Palos to miss Bentley.

If he ent pay plenty money for a youth, they ent playing.

Seriously thogh Palos... Bently was in the same crop as Aliadere who was supposed to be the future of Arsenal, now is Lupoli and Walcott. We will see whwre they end up.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 27, 2006, 07:02:16 PM
It easy for Palos to miss Bentley.

If he ent pay plenty money for a youth, they ent playing.

Seriously thogh Palos... Bently was in the same crop as Aliadere who was supposed to be the future of Arsenal, now is Lupoli and Walcott. We will see whwre they end up.


Bentley is an excellent player  ....  he is really a future star


and yes he scored a hat trick against utd..... the only person to ever do it in the premier league
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: FF on August 27, 2006, 07:40:51 PM
It easy for Palos to miss Bentley.

If he ent pay plenty money for a youth, they ent playing.

Seriously thogh Palos... Bently was in the same crop as Aliadere who was supposed to be the future of Arsenal, now is Lupoli and Walcott. We will see whwre they end up.

Palos go bawl "who is Aliadiere?" ???   ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: SUPA on August 27, 2006, 08:33:34 PM
some piks

by the way  that away kit is so flikin dread  :D :D

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705490.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705452.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705729.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705246.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705236.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/71705171.jpg)




 ;)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/nice.jpg)

Small Mag, ah not on yuh Man U wagon, but ah must admit, they are some good soccer pics.  :beermug:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 28, 2006, 06:55:19 AM
Van Bommel Signs For Bayern......Claims he is here to replace both Ballack and Hargreaves!! ; ;) ;)


source-skysports.com
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 28, 2006, 08:12:20 AM
i Wud like it if Hargreaves went to Man u
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 28, 2006, 08:31:44 AM
i Wud like it if Hargreaves went to Man u

yeh it would help england....
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 28, 2006, 09:05:50 AM
i Wud like it if Hargreaves went to Man u

yeh it would help england....
i jus think he deserves it, he was great at de world cup and proved everyone wrong, he had said he had wanted to play in the premiership before, but now i think that people know how hardworking and what a good player he is.. he has finally thought..i can play there now
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 29, 2006, 06:33:35 AM
I'd just like to ask a question of all the Chelsea fans on here.

WERE YOU WATCHING YESTERDAY  ;D

Middlesbrough 0 - Portsmouth 4  :rotfl:
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Cantona007 on August 29, 2006, 07:10:30 AM
I'd just like to ask a question of all the Chelsea fans on here.

WERE YOU WATCHING YESTERDAY  ;D

Middlesbrough 0 - Portsmouth 4  :rotfl:
Congrats, Pompey!! You all looking like a big team this year, but hopefully the momentum continues. Gotta give it to 'arry eh?
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 29, 2006, 07:20:10 AM
Dis must be the worst lie the paper come up with..but still.. " Ronaldinho row  sparks alert " - They say he and Rijkaard had an argument and dat why he didnt travel to the game.. And now AC Milan and Chelsea are on Red alert.. :rotfl:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2006400073,00.html
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: dinho on August 29, 2006, 08:36:57 AM
I'd just like to ask a question of all the Chelsea fans on here.

WERE YOU WATCHING YESTERDAY  ;D

Middlesbrough 0 - Portsmouth 4  :rotfl:

impressive performance... too bad you'll fall swiftly back down to earth at stamford bridge..

if you're a real fan, why didnt you make the long monday night trip to go to the game like john portsmouth football club wilson?? (thats his name right?)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 29, 2006, 09:06:02 AM
I'd just like to ask a question of all the Chelsea fans on here.

WERE YOU WATCHING YESTERDAY  ;D

Middlesbrough 0 - Portsmouth 4  :rotfl:

impressive performance... too bad you'll fall swiftly back down to earth at stamford bridge..

if you're a real fan, why didnt you make the long monday night trip to go to the game like john portsmouth football club wilson?? (thats his name right?)

I'm in the process of moving house (Emigrating actually), so I didn't even get the chance to watch it on TV as we have cancelled our Sky subscirption :'(

mind you, 600 mile round trip or 12 hours on a train, on a Monday night, no thanks. There's being a fan and theres being mad, John PFC Westwood falls into the latter ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on August 29, 2006, 09:11:14 AM
I chant england 4 Life and I aint no racist, Patriotic yes, but not racist. You surprise me, you are quenching Small Mag's passion and you are the most passionate poster on this forum :peace:

Pompey: My experience is defo different to urs also my apologises if I've got the wrong end of the stick, my experince what I said would seem so anyway. You would be english for life if you moved the planet G-Zebo when u were 10 anyway,lol (Another reason I think the chant is silly)
I would give the crowd to most passionate support to Small Mag's, sometimes too over passionate,lol.
Moving On


I missed the Highlights but saw them yesterday before I went Carnival
Giggs Is Playing Like It's 1992, Andy Johnson's Finish was nice, Darren Bent Has got a good start hopefully he stays in the England squad, Defoe is doing jack doodoo hopefully that changes, I can't diss crouch no more which isnt fun (lol) and from last night's game its obviously Harry Redknapp's team is on drugs, just kidding  ;)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Pompey on August 29, 2006, 12:46:24 PM

I missed the Highlights but saw them yesterday before I went Carnival
Giggs Is Playing Like It's 1992, Andy Johnson's Finish was nice, Darren Bent Has got a good start hopefully he stays in the England squad, Defoe is doing jack doodoo hopefully that changes, I can't diss crouch no more which isnt fun (lol) and from last night's game its obviously Harry Redknapp's team is on drugs, just kidding  ;)


I'm sure there will be a drugs bust at our training ground the way we're playing :o

Spuds have just signed Mido so Defoe is further down the pecking order, about time he joined his old boss I think ;)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: supporter on August 29, 2006, 03:44:25 PM
Sol still has gas left in the tank, and getting him away from his boyfriends in london have done him good. Not a bad backline at portsmouth. Good start for them but i cant say i like em. Harry abadoning Southampton after doing the same to portsmouth, how can you root for a guy like that? plus kenwyne is a saint, so we have to hope their rivals dont do well. But im happy for you pompey  ;D
Title: Mido coming back to spurs
Post by: daryn on August 29, 2006, 05:00:49 PM
Mido returns to Spurs



Tottenham Hotspur have agreed a deal to bring Mido back to the club on a permanent deal from Roma.


MatthewLewis/GettyImages
Mido: Already had loan spell

The 23-year-old striker was at White Hart Lane last season on loan and scored 11 goals before returning to the Italian club.

Spurs boss Martin Jol had been attempting to bring the Egypt international back after his departure, and has now has Mido back to bolster an attacking line-up at White Hart Lane including Dimitar Berbatov, Jermain Defoe and Robbie Keane.

Jol said: 'We've been tracking Mido since his loan ended and we were always keen to bring him back.

'Roma took some persuading and I'm delighted to have him in the squad.

'He knows I like him as a player, his strength in the air and his mentality. It's an excellent addition to the squad and our striking options are now complete.'

The striker told official website: 'I'm very happy to be back.

'It was, and it always will be a great honour for me to play for Tottenham.

'I always knew in my heart I would be coming back. It is a fantastic move for me, I have some good friends here and it will be good to be back with the lads. I saw them training today and I'm looking forward to working with Martin and Chris (Hughton) again.

'I can't wait to pull on a Tottenham shirt, to play at the Lane and score some goals.'


original article on soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=377464&cc=5901)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Daft Trini on August 29, 2006, 07:49:47 PM
Please don't bring Ronaldhino to England, dey go break him in two.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 30, 2006, 05:22:54 AM
Please don't bring Ronaldhino to England, dey go break him in two.
....dat why he play so bad in the wc..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 30, 2006, 04:24:32 PM
Breaking News.....United Loan Rossi to Magpies....  (Jub yuh must be hapy  yuh get a boss  dere ;))          i wonder if we making room for   say...Tevez? lol    hopefully



 Newcastle United have agreed a shock loan swoop for Manchester United's young striker Giuseppe Rossi.

The Italian youth international is highly-rated at Old Trafford and had been expected to make an impact on the United first team during the coming campaign after the sale of Ruud van Nistelrooy to Real Madrid.

Indeed Ferguson refused to allow the New Jersey-born Rossi to move to West Brom as part of the deal that saw Tomasz Kuszczak join The Red Devils.

However Glenn Roeder's Magpies have now managed to convince Ferguson that Rossi's interests will be best served at St James' Park in a loan move until January.

skysports.com
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on August 30, 2006, 08:58:33 PM
Breaking News.....United Loan Rossi to Magpies....  (Jub yuh must be hapy  yuh get a boss  dere ;))          i wonder if we making room for   say...Tevez? lol    hopefully



 Newcastle United have agreed a shock loan swoop for Manchester United's young striker Giuseppe Rossi.

The Italian youth international is highly-rated at Old Trafford and had been expected to make an impact on the United first team during the coming campaign after the sale of Ruud van Nistelrooy to Real Madrid.

Indeed Ferguson refused to allow the New Jersey-born Rossi to move to West Brom as part of the deal that saw Tomasz Kuszczak join The Red Devils.

However Glenn Roeder's Magpies have now managed to convince Ferguson that Rossi's interests will be best served at St James' Park in a loan move until January.

skysports.com
ah woulda like to see we get Woodgate instead
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Rastaman on August 30, 2006, 09:15:57 PM
Woodgate & £6m Huth sign for Boro  
www.bbc.co.uk

Middlesbrough have completed the double signing of defenders Jonathan Woodgate and Robert Huth.
Real Madrid and England centre-half Woodgate, 26, has moved to the Riverside on a season's loan with the option of making the deal permanent.

German international Huth, 22, has signed a five-year contract after completing a £6m switch from Chelsea.

Boro boss Gareth Southgate told the club website: "This is a significant coup and a big boost."

He added: "Both players have a point to prove - and the great thing is that they want to do that with Middlesbrough. I'm absolutely delighted."

Woodgate, capped five times by England, was also a target for Newcastle as well as Bolton.

But the lure of getting his career back on track playing for his hometown club proved too strong.

The former Leeds and Newcastle defender has been plagued by injuries since moving to Spain in a £13.4m move in August 2004 and has only played 14 games for Real Madrid.

Southgate has been tracking Huth for most of the close season but the towering defender's move fell through because of an ankle injury picked up while on World Cup duty.

Huth failed a medical in July but Southgate maintained his interest and promised to monitor the situation.

 
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on August 31, 2006, 06:51:28 AM
Breaking News.....United Loan Rossi to Magpies....  (Jub yuh must be hapy  yuh get a boss  dere ;))          i wonder if we making room for   say...Tevez? lol    hopefully



 Newcastle United have agreed a shock loan swoop for Manchester United's young striker Giuseppe Rossi.

The Italian youth international is highly-rated at Old Trafford and had been expected to make an impact on the United first team during the coming campaign after the sale of Ruud van Nistelrooy to Real Madrid.

Indeed Ferguson refused to allow the New Jersey-born Rossi to move to West Brom as part of the deal that saw Tomasz Kuszczak join The Red Devils.

However Glenn Roeder's Magpies have now managed to convince Ferguson that Rossi's interests will be best served at St James' Park in a loan move until January.

skysports.com

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  :'( Thank you lord.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on September 09, 2006, 09:15:58 AM
not much goals so far today
just 7 so far

Arsenal losing 1-0..if that stays..they going to be bottom of the league ;D
btw..Woodgate loking lke the boss player he was in the old days..Henry can't make a note
ah think Drogba is the new Andy Cole..scoring 1 in 20 chances lol
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on September 09, 2006, 10:35:44 AM
Final scores

Chelsea 2 - 1 Charlton - Drogba, Carvalho & Hasselbank [ Lampard hadda pen saved ]
Arsenal 1 - 1  Boro - Morisson, Henry - Pen
Newcastle 1 - 2 Fulham  >:( Parker, Mcbride, Bocanegra [as soon as parker go off newcastle big mess ]
Bolton 1 - 0 Watford , Speed - Pen - las minute
Liverpool 0 - Everton 3 - Cahill, Johnson x 2
Sheffield Utd 0 - 0 Blackburn rovers [ nt sure but ah think ther was 3 pens savd in this match]
Portsmouth 1 - 0 Wigan , Mwaruwari [ bullard injured ]

nd rite now..
Man U 1 - Tottenham 0 , Giggs
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: palos on September 09, 2006, 10:37:54 AM
not much goals so far today
just 7 so far

Arsenal losing 1-0..if that stays..they going to be bottom of the league ;D
btw..Woodgate loking lke the boss player he was in the old days..Henry can't make a note
ah think Drogba is the new Andy Cole..scoring 1 in 20 chances lol

Woodgate IS a boss player.  Always has been.  He jes injury prone to put it mildly.

He and Terry together at the heart of England defence would give them 2 TRULY World Class players in the position.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 09, 2006, 11:17:34 AM
Final scores

Chelsea 2 - 1 Charlton - Drogba, Carvalho & Hasselbank [ Lampard hadda pen saved ]
Arsenal 1 - 1  Boro - Morisson, Henry - Pen
Newcastle 1 - 2 Fulham  >:( Parker, Mcbride, Bocanegra [as soon as parker go off newcastle big mess ]
Bolton 1 - 0 Watford , Speed - Pen - las minute
Liverpool 0 - Everton 3 - Cahill, Johnson x 2
Sheffield Utd 0 - 0 Blackburn rovers [ nt sure but ah think ther was 3 pens savd in this match]
Portsmouth 1 - 0 Wigan , Mwaruwari [ bullard injured ]

nd rite now..
Man U 1 - Tottenham 0 , Giggs

Fat Man...   2 pts from 3 games lol.....   hmmmmmmmm    wa going on boy?

Utd 1   Spurs 0 HT
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Feliziano on September 09, 2006, 01:12:56 PM
Palos..the only way ah see Arsenal getting into Europe next year is by the Fair Play route
so tell yuh boy and them to behave themselves this year
ah think Intertoto out ah allyuh reach now too ;D
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 09, 2006, 02:26:08 PM
not much goals so far today
just 7 so far

Arsenal losing 1-0..if that stays..they going to be bottom of the league  ;D
btw..Woodgate loking lke the boss player he was in the old days..Henry can't make a note
ah think Drogba is the new Andy Cole..scoring 1 in 20 chances lol

Woodgate IS a boss player. Always has been. He jes injury prone to put it mildly.

He and Terry together at the heart of England defence would give them 2 TRULY World Class players in the position.

De man tackling was superb today.  he had Henry in check.  Ah eh know if Real go want to sell he if he keeps playing this way.  Than again, Capello have he own ideas.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 09, 2006, 06:00:46 PM
Ternoshaw  i see you very quiet over how ur side geh ass raped over at goodision today....


allyuh and arsenal real overrated dis season.....  4 from 3 for allyuh  and fat man squad coasting 2 from 3  lol 

AH LOVE IT...copyright A.S
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 09, 2006, 07:43:33 PM
Ternoshaw i see you very quiet over how ur side geh ass raped over at goodision today....


allyuh and arsenal real overrated dis season..... 4 from 3 for allyuh and fat man squad coasting 2 from 3 lol

AH LOVE IT...copyright A.S

Boss ah was dumbfounded when ah woke up and checked the score on the computer. But say what, that is how derbies go. Plus, dem fellas tired after returning from international duty. Only Aurelio and Pennant trained at Melwood this week, everyone else was either injured or on international duty. I think Everton capitalized on a tired team that didn't get the time to prepare for a tough opponent. We will overcome. Don't get carried away with yuh swift start. There is a long way to go. ;)
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Grande on September 10, 2006, 01:34:39 AM
Ternoshaw i see you very quiet over how ur side geh ass raped over at goodision today....


allyuh and arsenal real overrated dis season..... 4 from 3 for allyuh and fat man squad coasting 2 from 3 lol

AH LOVE IT...copyright A.S

Boss ah was dumbfounded when ah woke up and checked the score on the computer. But say what, that is how derbies go. Plus, dem fellas tired after returning from international duty. Only Aurelio and Pennant trained at Melwood this week, everyone else was either injured or on international duty. I think Everton capitalized on a tired team that didn't get the time to prepare for a tough opponent. We will overcome. Don't get carried away with yuh swift start. There is a long way to go. ;)

how Theo Walcott get de call-up before Andy Johnson is beyond me.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: JDB on September 10, 2006, 11:16:35 AM
Boss ah was dumbfounded when ah woke up and checked the score on the computer. But say what, that is how derbies go. Plus, dem fellas tired after returning from international duty.   Only Aurelio and Pennant trained at Melwood this week, everyone else was either injured or on international duty. I think Everton capitalized on a tired team that didn't get the time to prepare for a tough opponent. We will overcome. Don't get carried away with yuh swift start. There is a long way to go. ;)

This is such BS.

So is only Liverpool players that play international football last week.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on September 10, 2006, 03:49:47 PM
Boss ah was dumbfounded when ah woke up and checked the score on the computer. But say what, that is how derbies go. Plus, dem fellas tired after returning from international duty. Only Aurelio and Pennant trained at Melwood this week, everyone else was either injured or on international duty. I think Everton capitalized on a tired team that didn't get the time to prepare for a tough opponent. We will overcome. Don't get carried away with yuh swift start. There is a long way to go. ;)

This is such BS.

So is only Liverpool players that play international football last week.

Phil Neville was superb, best player in my opinon, and he was playin for england along with gerrard etc the other day..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Carib-Briton on September 10, 2006, 03:59:35 PM
Ternoshaw i see you very quiet over how ur side geh ass raped over at goodision today....


allyuh and arsenal real overrated dis season..... 4 from 3 for allyuh and fat man squad coasting 2 from 3 lol

AH LOVE IT...copyright A.S

Boss ah was dumbfounded when ah woke up and checked the score on the computer. But say what, that is how derbies go. Plus, dem fellas tired after returning from international duty. Only Aurelio and Pennant trained at Melwood this week, everyone else was either injured or on international duty. I think Everton capitalized on a tired team that didn't get the time to prepare for a tough opponent. We will overcome. Don't get carried away with yuh swift start. There is a long way to go. ;)

how Theo Walcott get de call-up before Andy Johnson is beyond me.

What are you talking about? Theo Walcott never got called up before Andrew Johnson, Johnson made his debut in the tour of the US in 2005.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Peong on September 30, 2006, 12:31:31 PM
Who see Van Persie's 2nd goal today?  Dat is de kinda goal daz mash up stadium yes.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Bitter on September 30, 2006, 03:01:02 PM
Who see Van Persie's 2nd goal today?  Dat is de kinda goal daz mash up stadium yes.

That was a Goal with a captial G. Wow!
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on September 30, 2006, 05:20:56 PM
what a goal. that all i cud say.
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 30, 2006, 07:07:17 PM
Who see Van Persie's 2nd goal today? Dat is de kinda goal daz mash up stadium yes.

That was a Goal with a captial G. Wow!


WWWWWWWWWWWWWWicked!!! Dat is all I could say!
Title: United on Top after 2-0 win
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 01, 2006, 12:18:00 PM
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's double moved Manchester United to the top of the Premiership table on goal difference.

Sir Alex Ferguson's side were always on top and struck the woodwork four times.

Darren Fletcher hit the post early on, as did Cristiano Ronaldo just before the break, but this time Solskjaer was on hand to sidefoot past Steve Harper.

Solskjaer's second goal had an element of luck about it when Nemanja Vidic's shot richocheted off the Norwegian and past Harper early in the second half.


Ronaldo, who had a superb game, seemed to have a particular affinity with the woodwork, hitting the bar and then the post in the space of six minutes after the second goal.

Throughout the game Manchester United's attacking play was a rich mixture of individual trickery and fluid passing movements, with Ronaldo invariably involved.

Newcastle deployed five men in midfield in a bid to stifle Manchester United, but the tactic had no effect, as the home side laid siege to the visitors' goal.

Newcastle were under pressure from the start, with Harper saving from Vidic and Steven Taylor bravely blocking Rio Ferdinand's shot.

Manchester United finally went ahead just before the interval when a powerful run from Ronaldo from a short corner ended with the Portuguese winger unleashing a shot that hit the base of the post.

The ball rebounded to Solskjaer, who had the simplest of tasks to beat Harper to score for the first time at Old Trafford since April 2003.

Newcastle's tactic of deploying five men in midfield also ensured Shola Ameobi was always isolated in attack.

Just after Solskjaer's first goal James Milner did manage to make inroads into the Manchester United defence, only to undo that good work by overhitting his cross.

As a contest the game was over when Solskjaer scored his second on 49 minutes.

After a Ronaldo corner Newcastle never really cleared their lines allowing Vidic to shot.

It is debatable whether the Serbian defender's shot would have beaten Harper but the Newcastle goalkeeper was left stranded as the ball hit Solskjaer.

Just past the hour the Newcastle manager Glenn Roeder introduced Obafemi Martins to support Ameobi but by then the game had slipped too far beyond the visitors' control.

So poor were Newcastle in attack that Edwin van der Sar did not have to make a serious save until the 75th minute, when he parried an effort from Peter Ramage.

That Manchester United did not score more was down to luck and Harper's goalkeeping.

Steven Taylor was fortunate referee Mike Dean missed his deliberate handball as he tried to block a Fletcher shot in the area, while Harper did well to tip over a Paul Scholes shot.

The only downside for Manchester United in this game was the sight of the injury-plagued Gabriel Heinze limping off to be replaced by Patrice Evra in the first-half.

Man Utd: Van der Sar, Neville, Ferdinand, Vidic, Heinze (Evra 31), Fletcher, Carrick, Scholes, Ronaldo, Rooney, Solskjaer.
Subs Not Used: Kuszczak, Brown, Saha, O'Shea.

Booked: Scholes.

Goals: Solskjaer 41, 49.

Newcastle: Harper, Carr, Ramage, Moore, Taylor, Milner (N'Zogbia 45), Butt (Martins 62), Emre (Pattison 69), Parker, Duff, Ameobi.
Subs Not Used: Krul, Luque.

Booked: Parker, Carr, Taylor.

Att: 75,664

Ref: M Dean (Wirral).









United were absolutely brilliant today   .......    newcastle were very very lucky to only concede 2 today

Were Gunnar win the league!....Ole Gunnar!
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Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: jub02 on October 01, 2006, 03:59:53 PM
yeh we were lucky.  ithink glen made a mistake he didnt play 2 strikers..because when ameobi got the ball it was only for a really small amount of time and he couldnt do anything with it.
man u have played better.. still think chelsea winnin it..
Title: Re: English Premier League (EPL) thread
Post by: che on October 01, 2006, 07:01:57 PM
Well done ManU  :applause:
Title: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 18, 2007, 11:27:30 PM
LONDON Alexi Lalas helped humiliate English soccer 14 years ago. It looks like he's trying to do it again.
The Los Angeles Galaxy president, who scored when the United States beat England 2-0 in a friendly match in 1993, told British newspapers that Major League Soccer is on a par with the Premier League.

Irked by suggestions that David Beckham is going into semiretirement by joining the Galaxy, Lalas said the only reason the English league is popular is because of American-style marketing.
The fact that a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business, Lalas said in an interview with The Guardian published Tuesday.

In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.

Brian McBride and Clint Dempsey are among the American players in the Premier League, although they play for modest Fulham. None of the American players in England are stars of the caliber of those at teams such as Manchester United and Chelsea.

McBride the third highest scorer in U.S. national team history with 30 goals scored nine times last season for Fulham, which finished 16th in the Premier League. His tally was 12 short of Didier Drogba's league-high 21 for Chelsea, and the same as Wigan's Emile Heskey and Aston Villa's Gabriel Agbonlahor.

Despite criticizing the Premier League for sloganeering and over-marketing, Lalas claimed that, when he arrives, Beckham will have a higher profile in the United States than Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan.

The U.S. will never have dealt with an athlete who has had this kind of international impact, Lalas told The Mirror. Tiger Woods has that international appeal but, with due respect to Woods and Michael Jordan, David Beckham is at an entirely different level.

Lalas, a 37-year-old former United States defender, said his country's record at the past four World Cups compared favorably with that of England England has two underwhelming quarterfinal appearances to one for the U.S. and suggested almost all those who criticize the MLS have yet to see the league.

However, several British papers were unimpressed by the Galaxy's 3-2 win over Real Salt Lake on Sunday.

The game was not without moments of quality ... (but) some of the defending from both sides was the type of stuff you watch through your fingers, according to The Mirror. It was the football equivalent of a demolition derby.

The use of possession was alarmingly careless and the concept of marking appeared not to have found its way across the Atlantic.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html




Alexi Lalas, the president of LA Galaxy and the man responsible for taking David Beckham to Major League Soccer in the United States next month, has suggested that the Premiership is an "inferior product" whose global success is largely down to American marketing techniques.
"There's no accounting for bad taste," Lalas said in an exclusive interview with the Guardian. "That a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business. English football now has the haves and the have-nots. It's just that the Premiership have become so skilled in presentation. They took a page out of American football and so now they have Saturday Showdowns and Super Sundays. I love it. This is high-calibre marketing - taking an inferior product and improving it through packaging."

Lalas hit out at English criticism of football in America. "The experts in England talk about David Beckham as if he's going into semi-retirement. It's insulting to say Beckham is on his way to Hollywood when he's coming to play in one of the most competitive leagues in the world. There are a lot of stars who would struggle here.
"There's this delusion that if it's English then it's great. But a whole world exists outside of England. That's reflected in the difficulties they had when everyone ran to the Premiership. Maybe it's OK for the fan but, for the average development of the players, their game is struggling."

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2106111,00.html

The Guardian letf out the funniest part of the interview.
Lalas:
In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: prodigy23 on June 19, 2007, 02:00:23 AM
hmmmmmmmmm.........ok.......no comment!  :devil:
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: #4 on June 19, 2007, 02:51:43 AM
Alexi Lalas' mouth deserves to be immortalized in a sports talking head hall of fame right next to Jim Rome, Mohammed Ali, Bill Walton and Jack Warner. Just like the rest of them, I'll admit that what he says may be true from time to time, but especially like the rest of them, d Man can talk some real shit!!!

you know how they say... "as my locks get longer, so does my wisdom grow...", well here is living proof, because his intelligence has obviously decreased since he did away with all that hair. ;D
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 04:50:31 AM
makes 2 very decent points.

has an axe to grind..so he uses poor wording. definitely sounds angry and that takes away from his credibility. but he is correct about the power of marketing and the EPL, and he is correct that they borrowed from the Yanks in that regard. It is a league that is not as quality (inferior) as it is marketed to be and the have nots are just not quality. In England some teams just don't even attempt to play technical football. It is hard to say that of La Liga and Serie A. Lalas is not saying the top teams are not great. He is just looking at the league as a whole and even though it exciting as he infers (it's OK for the fan), there are some teams that really come out and just hoof ball. But the EPL markets the whole league as quality..the best in the wrold. It is good for the fans but the English game is struggling. Tae a look at the current English national team. Take a look at how few youngsters are coming through the ranks compared to Spain, Italy, Germany etc..

he may be coming on strong about what he is saying about the MLS but it is more competitive than people seem to think. Too bad he exaggerates a bit, using strong words like inferior etc. cuz the underlying points have merit. I love the EPL..it is exciting because of the speed and physical nature of the game and the attitude of the players. But if I am honest..a very large group of teams don't relly come out and play at the same technical level as mid and lower level teams in other leagues I watch.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: truetrini on June 19, 2007, 05:30:57 AM
point is...he eh lying!  THE EPL is the best marketed league and it is adertied using de american model...take it or leave it.

he eh lying..de epl is not de best in de world, nor is de most excitig, it is de most hyped doh!
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Ponnoxx on June 19, 2007, 06:18:27 AM
 I was watching SkySPorts a time and a man say David Beckham going to join a Mickey Mouse League...Lalas crazy or wha...The only how players stuggling over there is during preseason or if the player is done 30 something and doh fight it again...MLS is a retirement league for Europe...No MLS team could ramp with an EPL team when they in full flight...EPL is properly marketed...Their MLS stars struggle in EPL badly...Beckham had some good years left in him and he made that decision because Real Madrid was playing stupid and not settling his contract...That was kind of a bad mind decision...he shoulda go there when he reach all 35-36 so...Who he will cross to? Landon Donavon... :rotfl: ....Beckham is a great..although he unbalanced Madrid for a while(not his fault but the club's inability to get better defenders)....Beckham on a balanced team is a deadly player...Finally everybody see how good he is.....Lalas please, hush yuh mouth and stop talking crap
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Andre on June 19, 2007, 06:51:39 AM
lalas talking some truth there:

1. EPL is the best marketed and uses the NFL model. look at how they is get some people to wake up early on a sunday morning to watch bullshit like fulham vs. wigan.

2. apart from the top, it like any other euro league. look at how the 2nd tier and below team is get knock out by fc unknowns from eastern europe in the UEFA cup.

i think he on a hype mission to stir interest in MLS though. hence the harsh words.

i done see sky sports news listing MLS standings and leading scorers on their right side.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: injunchile on June 19, 2007, 06:53:20 AM
Lalas made some good points about marketing. He forgot to mention the salaries of MLS players. Money is the bottom line. How can he justify most of the national players plying their trade overseas- especially the EPL.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2007, 07:34:47 AM
Their MLS stars struggle in EPL badly..

Not true.....

From the time an AMERICAN begins making critical comments about the EPL, yuh know such will be taken with a pound of salt on a TRINI message board because:

For some strange reason, Trinis fail to respect the U.S. acheivement in football and hence disregard any American perspective about football (pure bad mind)

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Plenty Trinis like they own shares in the EPL.... and for some reason respond very insecurely about any criticism about it...

At the end of the day, the only thing Lalas screwed up with was the word "inferior". The EPL is arguably not "inferior" to any of the major leagues in Europe- On the flip side, it is not really "Superior" either- contrary to the opinion of its fans and advocates.....why is their opinion of it so high? - Great Marketing....convincing the consumer that Pepsi for eg. is of way way better quality than the store brand (when the truth is, if you ever took a marketing class, you would know that the store brand, is often manufactured using pretty much the same ingredients and process as their premier product, but is cheaper only because yuh not paying for branding & certain patents etc.....)...Lalas hit the nail on the head, but "inferior" was a poor choice of adjective. In terms of success and quality of football, the EPL is on par with the best in the world.

His comments about the MLS were typically defensive- an understandably so...He is an American, he believes in and supports his local league and he is an advocate for it.....It have men on this board who draws is get wet when Beenie and Wim dis the PFL (a truly inferior league), and we's give them a bligh- so ease up Lalas nuh.....
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 08:02:28 AM
First off let me start by saying that Alexi Lalas is the biggest, overrated, shitsnake ever to lace up a football boots >:( . He more than anyone else should know the power of marketing an "inferior" product because he, Alexi lalas, benefitted from such marketing.

Secondly these leagues are BUSINESSES and marketing is an essential part of running a successful business. The PFL needs to learn this(I can't stress that enough). The EPL is the absolute, best at marketing itself. The EPL is far better than the MLS, where many foreign star players, past their prime, go to stud. I am a staunch defender of the EPL and an avid fan and I suggest that if one were to compare the top, middle and lower tier teams in the Prem to their counterparts in La Liga or Serie A etc the prem would probably produce better results.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 19, 2007, 08:26:53 AM
point is...he eh lying! THE EPL is the best marketed league and it is adertied using de american model...take it or leave it.

he eh lying..de epl is not de best in de world, nor is de most excitig, it is de most hyped doh!


come on that is like the owner of a Geo Metro saying people only think the Lexus is better because they have better commercials!

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English football now has the haves and the have-nots.

Is the MLS trying to say that the EPL is made up of has been players/teams? really the MLS is making this claim!  We all know Becks was jus vex, and thought his club and country careers were over when he signed on to the Galaxy.

I know Lalas vex, but oh gosh man yuh have to come better than that.
Its not a foregone conclusion that the EPL is not the top league, Chelsea's Liverpool's and Utd's run in the CL this year give strong evidence that they are right up there with anybody else, so to claim it an inferior product is quite debatable, and not a discussion the MLS would even be invited to.


Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: AZZURRI on June 19, 2007, 09:05:46 AM
i hadda agree with Lalas on the point of EPL and its marketing strategies...
they have that down cooolllllllldddd!

EPL marketed in such a way that it makes u think it is the best league out there...especially now since we doh get much football here with Spanish, gErman and French football all gettin d axe cause of them chupid ppls at FLOW(i eh wanna get started on them this mornin nah!!)
steups...

but he hadda back up his product which is the MLS ya could say....they bad talkin his investment..so he gonna put up his fists and fight back...

i eh blame him in a way...he vex but say wha...
EPL aint the best anyway ya take it...maybe 3rd with italy...but since thas all we get we hadda cool it

i say Spain first of course and then Germany and italy 2nd then england and france...
the other leagues jus doh have as much financial clout as the EPL...

money talks...
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 09:08:12 AM
i hadda agree with Lalas on the point of EPL and its marketing strategies...
they have that down cooolllllllldddd!

EPL marketed in such a way that it makes u think it is the best league out there...especially now since we doh get much football here with Spanish, gErman and French football all gettin d axe cause of them chupid ppls at FLOW(i eh wanna get started on them this mornin nah!!)
steups...

but he hadda back up his product which is the MLS ya could say....they bad talkin his investment..so he gonna put up his fists and fight back...

i eh blame him in a way...he vex but say wha...
EPL aint the best anyway ya take it...maybe 3rd with italy...but since thas all we get we hadda cool it

i say Spain first of course and then Germany and italy 2nd then england and france...
the other leagues jus doh have as much financial clout as the EPL...

money talks...

steeeuuuppps  ::) that is a ridiculous statement!!
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 19, 2007, 09:11:11 AM
The drugs he on real good.  He not in reality mode.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 09:17:12 AM
Their MLS stars struggle in EPL badly..

Not true.....

From the time an AMERICAN begins making critical comments about the EPL, yuh know such will be taken with a pound of salt on a TRINI message board because:

For some strange reason, Trinis fail to respect the U.S. acheivement in football and hence disregard any American perspective about football (pure bad mind)


There's a lot of truth in what you write here...but I don't think you address Ponnoxx' point...MLS/American players struggle badly in England. John Harkes had a decent career at Sheffield Wednesday, and Keller, Friedel, Hahnemann and Howard have had stellar GK careers. Outside of Brian McBride who is an absolute stud...no other American position player has really distinguished himself. Reyna...please. Beasely likely won't be back with Man. City, Onweyu was supposed to be the next best thing at defender....he's out of a club right now...Bobby Convey is playing so-so ball...Bocanegra, Dempsey (Fullham) and Corey Gibbs (Charlton), DeMerit (Watford) are all up and down. The list goes on.


Now...

That said, it's a credit to the direction in which the USSF has been going, and to MLS itself that they have so many young players with an opportunity to play in the EPL. Contrast that with TnT...we now will have three in one fell swoop as of August. Yet Trinis love cry down the Americans as you say. Obviously they're doing something right.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 09:21:36 AM
point is...he eh lying! THE EPL is the best marketed league and it is adertied using de american model...take it or leave it.

he eh lying..de epl is not de best in de world, nor is de most excitig, it is de most hyped doh!


come on that is like the owner of a Geo Metro saying people only think the Lexus is better because they have better commercials!

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English football now has the haves and the have-nots.

Is the MLS trying to say that the EPL is made up of has been players/teams? really the MLS is making this claim! We all know Becks was jus vex, and thought his club and country careers were over when he signed on to the Galaxy.

"haves and have nots" simply mean there's a lack of competitive parity...which is spot on.  You have a cluster of rich teams near the top followed by game, but largely inferior teams in the middle...followed by a perennially moribund lot struggling at the bottom.  But this is also true of many other leagues....MLS no different.  Ask Lalas how many titles Phillip Anschultz' teams won...

That said, Lalas' claim to fame is that he signed Becks.  That and his hair (at one point).  The guy was an overrated foul-machine as a player, and he's an overrated media starlet masquerading as a GM.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 09:23:17 AM
i hadda agree with Lalas on the point of EPL and its marketing strategies...
they have that down cooolllllllldddd!

EPL marketed in such a way that it makes u think it is the best league out there...especially now since we doh get much football here with Spanish, gErman and French football all gettin d axe cause of them chupid ppls at FLOW(i eh wanna get started on them this mornin nah!!)
steups...

but he hadda back up his product which is the MLS ya could say....they bad talkin his investment..so he gonna put up his fists and fight back...

i eh blame him in a way...he vex but say wha...
EPL aint the best anyway ya take it...maybe 3rd with italy...but since thas all we get we hadda cool it

i say Spain first of course and then Germany and italy 2nd then england and france...
the other leagues jus doh have as much financial clout as the EPL...

money talks...

Nonsense.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Peong on June 19, 2007, 09:41:41 AM
EPL aint the best anyway ya take it...maybe 3rd with italy...but since thas all we get we hadda cool it

i say Spain first of course and then Germany and italy 2nd then england and france...

EPL might have to further split that 3rd place tie with Portugal.
Maybe get pushed down to 4th.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: grskywalker on June 19, 2007, 10:25:57 AM
This coming from the first and last American to play in Italy (dropped on account of being shitty) :rotfl: He would have never made it in the EPL. Marketing aside the MLS standard sucks, shelling out big buck for 17 yr FREDDIE ADU WHO? Bringing in retiring players does not raise the standard of the MLS, it is used only as a means to sell tickets.

When you come down right to it the EPL is about the high level of professional football on that field, and that LALAS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 10:31:50 AM
EPL aint the best anyway ya take it...maybe 3rd with italy...but since thas all we get we hadda cool it

i say Spain first of course and then Germany and italy 2nd then england and france...

EPL might have to further split that 3rd place tie with Portugal.
Maybe get pushed down to 4th
.

Like Miami men have first dibbs on all de good weed coming into de US from JA and dem places boy ::)
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: capodetutticapi on June 19, 2007, 10:38:38 AM
so why spend so much money on beckham,did he not acquire his skills from someting inferior.i tink that lalas should invite any epl team to play his galaxy.see what happens.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 10:51:09 AM
This coming from the first and last American to play in Italy (dropped on account of being shitty) :rotfl: He would have never made it in the EPL. Marketing aside the MLS standard sucks, shelling out big buck for 17 yr FREDDIE ADU WHO?

Locking up Freddy was a good bet on the part of MLS...obviously the man showed enough potential for Inter to want to throw 3/4 mil at him at age 12, and marketable enough that Nike also locked him up to a long-term deal.  MLS locked him up two years later when his star was still shining high in the sky.  He was exactly what the league needed, young (to appeal to the US sport's growth base), remarkably poised, confident and articulate for his age (marketable), and American (what better way to market the game to young Americans...specifically teens who will badger their suburban parents to take them to the games).

 Bringing in retiring players does not raise the standard of the MLS, it is used only as a means to sell tickets.

When you come down right to it the EPL is about the high level of professional football on that field, and that LALAS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT


Uhmmm, excuse me perfesser...but isn't "sell[ing] tickets" what marketing is all about?  Selling the brand too of course...but you just unwittingly conceded that they're employing sound marketing.  Unfortunately the public has been slow to buy it...but the tide seems to be turning.

As ah man who grow up watching "FA Cup" and "Road To Wembley" every Sunday...I'm one of the biggest proponents of the EPL and would rate it above both Serie A and La Liga...but the lack of parity, or should I say the DISparity in the league kinda undermines that argument.  That said, in our haste to attack the red-headed idiots, let's not get too carried away and start making our own selves sound too much like that babbling retard.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Ponnoxx on June 19, 2007, 11:03:51 AM
It had a list or something on this forum a time...Anyhow...Toppa...MLS seperating itself from PFL in my book because of fitness and a better marketing plan(understandable)...The skill of the league that distinguishable in my opinion...If you look at the Mexican league or the Argentine league you could see that all the players are at a higher level...I get vex when Beenie and Wim bad talk the PFL because , I mean what they expect ...PFL big issue is to get people out their houses to go to games....Generally Trinbagonians very polar and (this is not a word eh what the hell) waggonistical that they don't support anything until other people take notice...America has made tremendous strides in football but they remain stagnant for all the progress they gained...I say this simply because Football from top to bottom is the same...Good basic Football...I mean you can't ask for anything more but I think that is the reason why they are not respected as much...You go to MLS, USL, PDL and Super-Y and they all play alike....Just who more athletic makes it to the top...This is a good thing because it shows that all American players on a decent technical level...Until you see an American player born in AMerica with American grandparents hitting man body dancie-like fakes, cheeky shots, no look pass, executing serious control and even just beating for the hell of it, They will never be respected....Well I guess you could say unless you see PFL players develop the kind of fitness needed at the highest level they will never be respected either...which is true....Football is cultural....We too lazy to emphasize superior fitness and them to methodical to step out the square that they are in...Technique and Athleticism alone can't win World Cups...African players grow up with less resources than our players but they are not lazy and push their athletic potential to the max....Why you think Foreign clubs does take our players? Cheap, something different because a man with good technique could always be found(think about it), and does usually look athletic(not always the case)...They does think if they get the player fit enough...with his skill he would be a big player and plus he cheap....We players lazy and don't usually push themselves....Football is cultural...tell a Trini reach 1'oclock and he reaching 15 minutes pass....Go T&T
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: royal on June 19, 2007, 11:06:09 AM
Mailbag: Is MLS really as good as the EPL?


Bigger than MJ and Tiger?Alexi Lalas has always been known for using his head, whether clearing balls out of danger on defense or using it as a canvas for the goatee and long hair that made him a marketing success, but some people may start to wonder if the Los Angeles Galaxy president took a few too many knocks to the noggin after he claimed the talent in MLS "wouldn't miss a beat" if placed in England's famed Premier League.
Lalas made his comments in response to opinion coming out of Europe, and especially David Beckham's native land, that the England international and recent Real Madrid star is heading to the United States to enjoy a glorified retirement tour with the Galaxy. For the coup de grace, Lalas added that Beckham will have a higher profile in the United States than the likes of Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods.

So what's your take, SportsNation? Is Lalas crazy? Will Beckham be the biggest celebrity in American sports? And has MLS really improved to the point that it's at least comparable with some of the best soccer Europe has to offer? We'll post selected responses.


VOTE: How would the best MLS team fare in England?


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Ryan (Solon, OH): Alexi Lalas is going to kill American soccer. I've lived in America my entire life. I watch the EPL, along with the leagues in Italy, Spain, and Germany ... to compare the MLS to the EPL is like saying there is no difference between college and pro BASEBALL. The best MLS teams MIGHT be able to get by in the Championship over in England, but in the EPL they'd be in the bottom 5 easily. The MLS is starting to get better, but people like Lalas are going to keep it as a joke.


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Ben (Oklahoma City): Are you kidding me? Let's not kid ourselves. This is like saying the European basketball league is on par with the NBA. It just isn't. The soccer clubs in Europe have been around since before the Red Sox were playing the Yankees. I think the MLS has enormous potential, but if you think the MLS cup is anything like the UEFA Champions League, then you are clearly deluding yourself.


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Josh (Santa Clara): I think that MLS teams could compete in the Premier League. They certainly wouldn't be on par with teams like Chelsea, Man U, Liverpool or Arsenal. But I could see them beating West Ham or Fulham. The way Newcastle's been playing, FC Dallas might be able to take them. Unfortunately, Beckham won't be the biggest celebrity in American sports IN the U.S. He might be the biggest American sports celebrity outside the U.S. Perhaps unfairly, the MLS lacks credibility; they need to sign a few guys like Fowler and Zidane who can give the league some instant credibility in terms of talent. Getting the most marketable player in the world--although does things for popularity of the sport, which is huge, does not do anything for perceived credibility.


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Matt (Avon): Alexi Lalas has always been a huge proponent for American soccer and he?s also been known to say stupid things. This is one of those stupid things. The quality of the MLS is increasing drastically as can be seen with teams like Kansas City not really hurting horribly from the loss of a player such as Eddie Johnson and his amazing hot streak. While you hear players like Juan Pablo Angel be surprised at the quality of football we play here in America. But we are not on par with EPL it just isn't the fact yet. Beckham is the biggest global celebrity there is. Micheal Jordan gives him a run but I think Beckham wins out whether its people loving him or hating him he is known everywhere. But He won't be the Biggest Sports Celebrity in the US. Soccer is still a 2nd or 3rd tier sport to most of the American public. So even the greatest celebrity in the world probably won't be the #1 name just do to the access to the sport. Lalas is speaking out for his love of the American game and out of frustration from all those people claiming Beckham is to good to go to America. He may have gone a little to far but his point is Beckham won't be wasting his talents coming here and that is true.


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Ken (NYC): The existence of this 'forum' is proof that Lalas got exactly what he wanted, publicity. My advice is to ignore him and perhaps he'll go away.


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Rob (New York): You can not even say that MLS is even close to the EPL. A MLS all-star team could probably not even beat a mid-level team like Everton or Tottenham. If Cristiano Ronaldo played in the MLS he would score 100 goals. The real test for MLS teams is to play in the Champions League or UEFA tournaments to see how they far against the best football clubs in the world. EPL is equal to the Major League Baseball. MLS is equal to Double A Minor League Baseball.


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JD (Washington DC): I'm all for supporting the US and the MLS, but Alexi Lalas has no clue what he's talking about. He's just trying to hype up the MLS and Beck's move. In reality, if ANY MLS team had to play a typical schedule of an EPL team, they'd be dead by week 10. FA Cup, EPL League, possibly a CL or UEFA Cup game.... Please. The best team in the MLS can't compare with a good EPL team. A bottom dweller, maybe. But even then ... those lads are way more physical than ours.


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Glen (Aurora): Not a chance, not even close. The Premiership is FAR superior to MLS. I'd probably put MLS on par with League One in England, with a couple of the top teams maybe in the Championship. I think Alexi has taken one to may crosses off the noggin here.


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Mike (San Diego): Some of the best MLS players could compete in the EPL, but not a lot of them. The EPL is much much better than the MLS. However, Lalas might have something right about Beckham, he is already a world-wide figure, and his popularity in the US (the world's largest celebrity market) will continue to grow.


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Jon (Darien, CT): David Beckham in no way will ever compare to Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan in terms of profile and international impact. He is a washed up, ever-overrated player who will garner some hype for a short period of time upon arrival. The largest spotlight on Beckham will undoubtedly come in form of a reality TV show of he and his wife on E! before the ratings force it to be shelved and he is benched on another team soccer team.


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Mike (New York): Lalas is a little delusional here. The best MLS teams could handle the bottom half of the Premiership, but would have great difficulty with the top half. Look no further than Juan Pablo Angel scoring at will in MLS while being benched at Aston Villa.


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Chicago: Lalas isn't far off. There is no doubt that world class clubs such as ManU, Chelsea, and Arsenal are far ahead of any team in the MLS. However, there is not only a big gap at the top of the premier league (can anyone remember the last time Wigan won the Premiership?) but also, these three are far ahead of most teams anywhere in the world. When examining the overall composite of MLS teams to the entire composite of Premier League teams, including teams like Newcastle, Boro, Charlton, and Pompey, the MLS is about as good as the EPL. The MLS needs to take a lesson from the EPL, and allow promotion and relegation, as well as to do away with salary caps. Don't restrict the money coming in; at least wait until you have it to restrict it.


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Manuel (Houston): I keep up with all of the European soccer leagues and the MLS, and I would have to say that the MLS cannot even come close to compare with the Premier League. Watching the MLS is frustrating because of how bad the players are and how sorry their inability to execute simple tactics is. Sometimes the games get so frustrating that I flat-out change the channel because I'm yelling at the television because of the dumb mistakes they make all the time and how they never shoot from outside of the penalty box. Almost all of the goals are either headers or really close to the goal. They pass it too much inside of the penalty area. If you are that close you have to shoot!


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Matthew (Peoria, IL): Hey, his point is that the English media are the joke, not the MLS. They all puff their chests about how good the EPL is and how good England is, but England hasn't done much better than the U.S. over the past 20 years of soccer on the International Level. EPL has 4 good teams, the rest are just average, that?s what he's saying. Better Competition Top to Bottom in MLS.


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Mark (Cincinnati): "Lalas added that Beckham will have a higher profile in the United States than the likes of Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods." This is the one that made me spit my drink on the monitor. A sport has to be relatively popular before a star of Tiger or MJ's caliber can then elevate it to greatness. Beckham playing for the galaxy will be grabbing all the headlines on page 8 of the sports section.


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Daniel (Cincinnati): Lalas has no business comparing David Beckham to Tiger Woods. The individual achievements of these two legends far outweigh any collection of accomplishments by David Beckham. David Beckham is a worldwide superstar and may be just as popular as those two icons, but he never transformed his profession the way that Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan have done for their respective sports. If we want to compare a Futbol player, let?s talk about the likes of Pele, not a spice girl.


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mehul (Dallas, TX): David Beckham will clearly be the best player in the MLS and is paving the way for many other internationals as a viable option for a league to play in. With that said, the English Premier League is on a class of its own, where the world's best go to play. Alexi's comments are the equivalent of saying European basketball leagues are on par with the NBA. There is a reason why Dirk Nowitzki and Tony Parker play in the NBA, because it is the best league in the world. There is a reason why America's best soccer players including Clint Dempsey, Tim Howard, Demarcus Beasley, Brian McBride, and others try to make it in the EPL. Alexi Lalas is simply trying to make a shocking comment to seek more attention for his club. Beckham has come to the U.S. because of the Hollywood lifestyle and because he is not the same player he once was. Although he can still strike the ball on corners and free kicks better than anyone, he is not the great all around player that many perceive him to be. He will be a huge attraction for soccer in the U.S., but Alexi Lalas is clearly way off on this one.


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Franco (Miami): Lalas, may be trying to help Beckham keep his place in the national team and also refusing Real Madrid the ability buy out the contract of Becks. But he's insane. The EPL is much stronger, the MLS is more comparable to the Scottish one.


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Steve (NYC): Juan Pablo Angel has a MLS record 9 goals in his first 7 games. This is a guy who was on the Aston Villa reserve side at the end of his EPL league. I wonder if all the people that are working their butts off to grow the league just cringe everytime this idiot opens his mouth.


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Jose (Wallingford): Michael Jordan 6 Time NBA Champion & Finals MVP 5 Time NBA MVP 2 Gold Medals NCAA National Champion Winner of the Naismith and Wooden Awards. Tiger Woods 12 Majors (second all time) David Beckham Married to a Spice Girl.


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Luis (Washington, DC): Anyone who thinks Tiger Woods has a greater international profile than David Beckham has no clue what they're talking about and should just be ignored. Beckham, and other international stars like Ronaldinho, are on another stratosphere compared to US sports stars. I do agree that Beckham won't be the biggest star in the US from an American perspective. As for Lalas, he is an idiot. I think a top MLS side, plus some added depth (the biggest shortcoming in MLS right now) could survive in the EPL, but would be near the bottom of the table. MLS compares very favorably to the Championship.


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Toby (Baltimore): How many MLS players have moved to the EPL and achieved even a modest level of success? Three or four? The fact that EPL teams aren't scouring the MLS for young talent, and the fact that the MLS is scouring the EPL and other Euro leagues for old talent speaks volumes. MLS players lack the class, pace, and talent of their counterparts in Europe. It's not a knock on them, but rather a testament to the superiority of the EPL. Lalas is the PT Barnum of the MLS and I commend his efforts. However, a dumb statement made with best intentions is still a dumb statement.


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Ben (Dener): Lalas' comparison of the two national teams is in disregard of so many other factors. USA has an incredibly easy route to the World Cup every fourth year, competing against teams like Guatemala and Canada. Qualifying in Europe is far more grueling and the top English players often play 70-80 games in a World Cup year. Half of the team is either hurt or physically drained. Also, England don't lose to teams like Iran in the World Cup. USA got to the quarterfinals once after playing a very favorable schedule. Let's not put them up there with England just yet.


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Kyle (Chicago): If the MLS could compete w/ the EPL than why are the best American players overseas? Not only the EPL, but the leagues in Spain, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, etc. are superior to the MLS in talent and quality of play. The challenge for the MLS is to keep the best American players here, but personally I'd rather see our MNT players in England and throughout Europe playing in an international environment against better competition. The more Americans playing in Europe, the better our national team will be.


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Mike (Virginia): First off I think most everyone on this board who are saying that MLS teams could not compete the EPL are Delusional. I don?t agree with Alexi, not every MLS team could compete in Europe (Columbus Crew for example) But I certainly do believe that teams like N.Y. RedBulls, DC United and a few others would do very well over there. Man U, Chelsea, whoever, doesn?t matter, we can beat them on any given day. You saw Chelsea barely beat DC United when they came on their American tour. So people open your eyes American soccer and the MLS are on par and we are no longer the underdogs we can beat anyone in the world period.....and I?m not even an American.


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Johnathan(New York): Lalas isn't far off the mark. Obviously MLS teams don't compare to the premier league giants, but it isn't a stretch to say they are close to a lot of the table.


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Mark (Chicago): The EPL may be a bit overrated for the bottom 10, but that certainly does not mean that MLS is on par with the EPL. There might be one or two MLS teams every year that would survive EPL relegation (which puts me amongst the kindest poster on this thread), but none of those squads would ever compete for Europe. The standard is far better than most give credit for (ask the players and coaches who have played in both leagues or Chelsea who was downed by an MLS All-star squad that never played together before) and the league is more competitive as far as being less black and white between the haves and have nots, but Lalas rambling speech is nothing more than headline grabbing. His comment about the helicopter is accurate, but a far greater percentage of EPL players could handle MLS than vice versa! Lalas? most accurate comments involved the evolving global nature of club football, which in time will lead to a cross-continental Champions League. While the EPL teams to play a ton of games, it is not uncommon for top MLS sides to add up to 15 more games to their slate a season between US Open Cup, MLS Cup Playoffs, CONCACAF Champions League, and friendlies of all kinds versus European and A-league squads.


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Daniel (New York): I think Lalas is a brilliant marketing guru. This should spark some interest in the MLS at a crucial time of growth for the league. Outlandish - Yes, but his comments will definitely make some people watch. We are embarking upon a remarkable time in world football where parity will reign supreme.


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Bill (Boston,MA): Lalas is incredibly far off in comparing the quality of play in the MLS to that of the EPL. While the MLS has clearly improved recently, there is NO way that any team in the MLS could stay in the Premiership. However, if the MLS continues to improve at the rate it is, there is a chance that some of the teams could reach a level to compete in the Premiership in a few years. While a player the quality of Beckham certainly improves the image of the MLS, this announcement is incredibly premature, and insults many of the teams in the Premiership.


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Nate (Santa Barbara): Why is anybody listening to Alexi? Anyone who knows anything about soccer in this country knows he's the "Don King of US Soccer." He runs his mouth cause he's smart and wants to keep the attention on his sport. Good talk or bad talk, he just wants you talking about MLS.


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Clifton (Washington, DC): I somewhat agree with most of the posts here that Lalas is overstating the quality of soccer in the MLS compared to the EPL. However, I feel that is just what the MLS needs to boost the value. If comments by Lalas keep appearing on the main page of ESPN, maybe your typical fan will start to listen and check out a game. I think this league has come very far since its inception after the 1994 World Cup and will only continue to grow. I don't know if Beckham will be bigger than Tiger or Jordan, but his face will be MLS Soccer for the next 5 years. If he comes over and is successful in the MLS, I think this is the snowball that turns the MLS into an avalanche of popularity. At the games he plays in, he will sell out most stadiums. Getting the new fans to the game will exponentially increase, and that is how you grow a sport the quickest. While some may disagree that soccer will never be as popular as baseball or football in America, I think twenty years down the road they will be biting their tongue. Soccer will take over those sports when the money is there in the MLS to compete with the big sports. That is when America's best athletes will lace up the soccer cleats rather than baseball or football shoes, and Americans will dominate Soccer on an international level just as they dominate every other sport that pays well. Beckham is going revolutionize American soccer. Just you wait and see.


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Bort (Liverpool): I think that if Lalas means that a good MLS team would hold their own in the EPL as a whole I think he is correct. If he means that a good MLS team is as good as the top 4 EPL teams or would beat them I think he is crazy. However, after the top 4 or so teams there is a huge dropoff in quality in the EPL and there are MLS teams who are as good or better than the weak EPL teams.


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David (Cleveland): I have to agree that the Lalas isn't being too wild in his comparison of MLS and EPL. Look at some of the basement teams in the EPL, they are filled with the same retreads and slobs that are in the MLS. Now I don't think that Lalas was really comparing any American club to ManU or Arsenal, but we need to remember that those are world wide teams that have a fan base larger than the population of England. It?s just like comparing some of the MLB cellar dwellers to a top team in Japan, not far off/


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Alex (Los Angeles): Why does Alexi Lalas have to say such a ridiculous thing just when the US was starting to gain momentum for the Beckham coming? Unfortunately, Lalas has no credibility as his Galaxy is struggling in the table right now. It's a shame Beckham will have to put this issue right next time he speaks to the media. Although Beckham is extremely popular at the moment, I don't think it overrides Jordan's popularity while he was playing his career. Hopefully Lalas thinks before he speaks next time.


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Matt (NYC): The English national team and U.S. national team have very little to do with the competition level of the MLS and EPL. The fact that the majority of the best players in the world play in either La Liga, Seria A, or the EPL shows that these are the elite leagues in the world. The Bundasliga is also top flight. Yes, there are the big four in the EPL, (Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal) but even Everton, Spurs, Pompey, or Newcastle, would wipe the floor with the best teams in the MLS. These players are playing 40-60 games over a 10 month season. The MLS elite players are average players in the EPL and stars in the MLS. If Chelsea can win all but three or four game in the EPL, They would run off amazing streaks in the MLS. The highest paid American in the MLS is Donovan who makes just around $1 million. Meanwhile, Ronaldo on MAN U is banking 10-15 times that. That is elite. The sport is huge there which is why ratings and support is huge, which creates need for top flight competition. The MLS doesn't have any of those things the way the EPL has them. One day, maybe the MLS will be the 5th or 6th most popular sport but it will never compete with the EPL.


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Kyle (Boston): April 24 MLS Columbus vs Los Angeles: 5,424 Attendance May 19 EPL Manchester United vs Chelsea: 89,826 Attendance Sure, MLS is on par.


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Logan: I understand why Lalas reacted the way he did, however inaccurate his assertions may be. As a huge Liverpool supporter, I watch a lot of EPL games. MLS, while it has improved, is simply not on par technically. Possession is inconsistent and, I must agree, the defending largely suspect. I would say it is on par with the Championship League in England, with maybe one or two teams able to compete in the bottom half of the EPL.


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James (Austin, TX): I have to agree somewhat with what Alexi actually said, that MLS players could move to the EPL and fit right in. Of course an entire MLS team would have trouble not being relegated if they were to move into the EPL, but I don't think our better teams (Houston, New England) would necessarily be automatic drops; I think they could hang with the Charltons, Watfords, West Hams of the EPL. Just look at how easily Dempsey has begun to make his mark for Fulham. After he was able to crack the line up for some playing time, it took about 4 games for Fulham fans to start wanting to see him in the starting XI.


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Toronto: I can't believe what i've read on some of the responses. Exhibition games are completely pointless for crying out loud, these European teams come out for show and not compete, this is their off season so why should they really care if they win or not? The MLS is far from being the same level with the EPL. I grew up in Singapore being an Aston Villa fan and i'm happy for Angel to be doing well for New York. But go figure, a lot of these former European guys were not that great in Europe and now excel because the pace is far more slower than that of the EPL. To think a MLS team could compete in the EPL is a total misunderstanding of the game. Yes maybe one of these teams can beat an EPL team once out of 10 tries. But there isn't any team in MLS that can actually compete for a Champs League or UEFA Cup spot. I suggest a lot of these posters and viewers who think the MLS is on par need to review their comment and situation, its like saying College Basketball teams can play with the NBA teams. There is a huge gap in terms of skills, natural talent and coaching.


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Troy (Denver): Does this latest Lalas incident and the attitude of the English press perhaps hint at another issue here... the English's deep-seeded prejudice and disdain for the idea that American soccer might actually be capable of producing some exceptional talent? Clearly, at this point, MLS's overall quality just doesn't compare with the Premier League's. It doesn't come close to the Premier League's popularity, spending power and ability to develop young players. It is making strides, however, and I wonder if the English press will ever be able to admit that. Not sure Lalas is the best spokesman for American soccer, but kudos to him for sticking up for it.


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Peter (Pittsburgh PA): To compare the FA Cup Final attendance to a regular season match is flat out ridiculous. Lalas was trying to make a point that outside of the top 4 teams, the EPL is not that great and the MLS teams could compete. MLS will never be on par with the big leagues of Europe, but the quality is getting to the point where they can compete.


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Eric (West Deptford, NJ): In regard to Mark's comment about Lalas being wrong about Beckham being bigger than Woods and Jordan, I must say you did not understand what Lalas was saying. You are comparing the three at the U.S. level, while Lalas is talking about internationally. And internationally Beckham is regarded right up there if not above those two. As far as the MLS, while it is gaining ground it is not yet up there with the EPL.


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Jeff (Macon, GA): What's even more delusional is the comments made by the idiots who believe the 300 million Americans are the only people on the planet. The other 5.7 billion people slobber all over photos of David Beckham. Also, anyone who thinks golf is a sport, is an idiot. If you want to talk overrated, let's talk Tiger Woods. The guy is on the same par as a player who won 12 majors on the pro bowling tour. Is David Beckham equal or better than Michael Jordan? Nope. Will he add something to the game that will make it better than before. Yep. And that's how he is equal to Jordan. The American soccer game will be better because of him. As for MLS being on par with the EPL, this emphasizes the need for mandatory drug testing in MLS.


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Junior (Temecula): Lalas is totally ignoring the fact that MLS teams have trouble beating Mexican clubs in the CONCACAF Champion's Cup. Before he starts comparing the MLS with the EPL, the MLS needs to start playing in the Copa Libertadores (Sth America's version of the UEFA Champion's League). See if they can handle the level that the Argentine & Brazilian clubs play. I doubt it. Mexican clubs consistently perform well in that tournament and they're not anywhere on level with clubs from England, Italy, or Spain. There's no comparison between MLS and Europe. MLS is the minor leagues...nothing more, nothing less.


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Dave (Edmonton, Alberta): That?s like saying the CFL is on par with the NFL. The MLS is attracting players at the end of their careers; which is why you hear many European/South American stars saying they would like to finish their career in the MLS. Ronaldo has said he would like to do so as has a few other aging stars.


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Johannes(Greenville, SC): People who say that the MLS is on par with the EPL need to travel across the pond and actually attend an EPL game. This has to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard. I lived in Germany for 19 years and I would not even think of saying that the German Bundesliga is on par with the EPL. Come on now people lets keep it real here. The MLS is a minor league compared to the EPL. Let me know when the MLS has an average attendance of 60,000 and not 6,000. This should not even be a discussion


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Mike (Houston): I'm an MLS and Houston Dynamo fan from Texas. I also lived in London and had a Chelsea season ticket for 3 years from 2002-2005. I also spent 6 months in Vienna and watched a good bit of bad Austrian Soccer. I think the MLS could put its top in the Champions league, lose but score in the qualifying round, go to the UEFA, win a game or two in the group stages but likely not get past them. This makes about as good as the Austrian league, the Hungarian league, the Bulgarian league... you get the idea. Our best would challenge for the a top 15 spot in the Premiereship. Our second best gets relegated.


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Joseph (Los Angles, CA): I grew up in Spain and have friends from there who visit from time to time. We'll watch an MLS match and they'll actually giggle if not laugh outright at some of the defending and passing! The EPL league is greatly over-rated here in the US, but it still stands that the best MLS team would be one of the worst in the Premier League. (In the same way that Man U, Chelsea or Arsenal would hardly make the UEFA places in the Spanish league.)


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Is this a marketing ploy by Lalas ? because it is getting a lot of airplay
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: RGarcia on June 19, 2007, 11:13:33 AM
First off let me start by saying that Alexi Lalas is the biggest, overrated, shitsnake ever to lace up a football boots >:( . He more than anyone else should know the power of marketing an "inferior" product because he, Alexi lalas, benefitted from such marketing.

I second yuh too that... Lalas could not kick a ball with a srting tied on to it. thats does not make him a bad person in making decions on football. But sometime he is talk some shitt that i do not knwo if he does realize what he saying until he done F%(kin talking.... another one is Eric Wynalda that does talk some mess too 

Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: grskywalker on June 19, 2007, 11:30:13 AM
This coming from the first and last American to play in Italy (dropped on account of being shitty) :rotfl: He would have never made it in the EPL. Marketing aside the MLS standard sucks, shelling out big buck for 17 yr FREDDIE ADU WHO?

Locking up Freddy was a good bet on the part of MLS...obviously the man showed enough potential for Inter to want to throw 3/4 mil at him at age 12, and marketable enough that Nike also locked him up to a long-term deal. MLS locked him up two years later when his star was still shining high in the sky. He was exactly what the league needed, young (to appeal to the US sport's growth base), remarkably poised, confident and articulate for his age (marketable), and American (what better way to market the game to young Americans...specifically teens who will badger their suburban parents to take them to the games).

 Bringing in retiring players does not raise the standard of the MLS, it is used only as a means to sell tickets.

When you come down right to it the EPL is about the high level of professional football on that field, and that LALAS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT


Uhmmm, excuse me perfesser...but isn't "sell[ing] tickets" what marketing is all about? Selling the brand too of course...but you just unwittingly conceded that they're employing sound marketing. Unfortunately the public has been slow to buy it...but the tide seems to be turning.

As ah man who grow up watching "FA Cup" and "Road To Wembley" every Sunday...I'm one of the biggest proponents of the EPL and would rate it above both Serie A and La Liga...but the lack of parity, or should I say the DISparity in the league kinda undermines that argument. That said, in our haste to attack the red-headed idiots, let's not get too carried away and start making our own selves sound too much like that babbling retard.

Way boy BAKE, YUH ON MEH CASE TODAY BOY! Question? When last did Freddy make the news since the season start? Where is he anyway?. At least in the EPL they wait till you have accomplished on the field before throwing out the big bucks.
Again my point is the quality of the product being sold/marketed, you remember them teams in England were born out of the communities they represented, not by any big shot company. Back in the day when liverpool and them use to come out it was just the red jersey and red pants and the number on the back and club crest no visible sponsors and the stadiums packed to capacity. They came to see good competitive football, now fast foward to MLS and it is clear everything else is in place and the football is mediocre.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 19, 2007, 11:41:26 AM
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Rob (New York): You can not even say that MLS is even close to the EPL. A MLS all-star team could probably not even beat a mid-level team like Everton or Tottenham. If Cristiano Ronaldo played in the MLS he would score 100 goals. The real test for MLS teams is to play in the Champions League or UEFA tournaments to see how they far against the best football clubs in the world. EPL is equal to the Major League Baseball. MLS is equal to Double A Minor League Baseball.

Lalas dam fast and out of place, and by his own logic the EPL is beating the MLS at their own marketing game if their product is so inferior.
You dont have much going for yourself if the only way to make yourself look better, is to bad talk the other guy.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 11:47:16 AM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Tongue on June 19, 2007, 11:49:31 AM
this article is being discussed here http://worldsoccerdaily.myownsiteonline.com/ and Lalas is going to be on to address some of what he tork bout.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 19, 2007, 11:51:27 AM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

This may be true that was not holding up the MLS to the EPL, but my point as a representative of the MLS he is the last person to talk.
Leave them kinda aruguments for men from Spain and Italy.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: grskywalker on June 19, 2007, 11:57:31 AM
I don't think Beckham would appreciate LALASS  saying his EPL is inferior
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 12:26:45 PM

Way boy BAKE, YUH ON MEH CASE TODAY BOY!

Nah fella...it ent that serious and no offense, bu you ent dat important, lol. I actually posted this waayy before I read yuh post in de other thread...the two are independent of each other.

Question? When last did Freddy make the news since the season start? Where is he anyway?. At least in the EPL they wait till you have accomplished on the field before throwing out the big bucks.

Yeah because the EPL already has marketable stars and don't really have to worry about young talent being poached away overseas...because they have plenty. Also the EPL has a much better way of guaging talent than MLS...via the Coca Cola League, Division One etc.  

Again my point is the quality of the product being sold/marketed, you remember them teams in England were born out of the communities they represented, not by any big shot company. Back in the day when liverpool and them use to come out it was just the red jersey and red pants and the number on the back and club crest no visible sponsors and the stadiums packed to capacity. They came to see good competitive football, now fast foward to MLS and it is clear everything else is in place and the football is mediocre.

My argument has never been about the quality of the game...my arguments are specific to your assault on MLS for paying Freddy something arung $1M to keep him here. Americans aren't going to rally around a marketing campaign based on a foreigner (David Beckham being the exception)...so that is why the deal to lock up Freddy was smart. It didn't pan out the way anybody hoped...but hindsight is always 20/20...doesn't mean that they were silly for signing him...unless you claim to know more than the good marketing folks at Nike and Inter Milan as well.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 12:28:35 PM
Some very good comments from whatever that forum is that Royal post...but these two really stand out in my mind:

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Steve (NYC): Juan Pablo Angel has a MLS record 9 goals in his first 7 games. This is a guy who was on the Aston Villa reserve side at the end of his EPL league. I wonder if all the people that are working their butts off to grow the league just cringe everytime this idiot opens his mouth.


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Toby (Baltimore): How many MLS players have moved to the EPL and achieved even a modest level of success? Three or four? The fact that EPL teams aren't scouring the MLS for young talent, and the fact that the MLS is scouring the EPL and other Euro leagues for old talent speaks volumes. MLS players lack the class, pace, and talent of their counterparts in Europe. It's not a knock on them, but rather a testament to the superiority of the EPL. Lalas is the PT Barnum of the MLS and I commend his efforts. However, a dumb statement made with best intentions is still a dumb statement.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 12:31:35 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop
I know he ent schupid enough to compare MLS to the EPL...but he did say that it is an inferior product...not 'disappointing'...inferior.

The question then becomes...inferior compared to what?
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Tongue on June 19, 2007, 12:31:55 PM
Lalas was a no show on the program..hmmmmmm ah wonda why....but Ray Hudson(sp) will be on tomorrow.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: ribbit on June 19, 2007, 12:35:20 PM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 19, 2007, 12:38:26 PM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".

 ???  ???
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2007, 12:58:21 PM
Their MLS stars struggle in EPL badly..

Not true.....

From the time an AMERICAN begins making critical comments about the EPL, yuh know such will be taken with a pound of salt on a TRINI message board because:

For some strange reason, Trinis fail to respect the U.S. acheivement in football and hence disregard any American perspective about football (pure bad mind)


There's a lot of truth in what you write here...but I don't think you address Ponnoxx' point...MLS/American players struggle badly in England. John Harkes had a decent career at Sheffield Wednesday, and Keller, Friedel, Hahnemann and Howard have had stellar GK careers. Outside of Brian McBride who is an absolute stud...no other American position player has really distinguished himself. Reyna...please. Beasely likely won't be back with Man. City, Onweyu was supposed to be the next best thing at defender....he's out of a club right now...Bobby Convey is playing so-so ball...Bocanegra, Dempsey (Fullham) and Corey Gibbs (Charlton), DeMerit (Watford) are all up and down. The list goes on.


Now...

That said, it's a credit to the direction in which the USSF has been going, and to MLS itself that they have so many young players with an opportunity to play in the EPL. Contrast that with TnT...we now will have three in one fell swoop as of August. Yet Trinis love cry down the Americans as you say. Obviously they're doing something right.

Only the first line of that post was in response to Ponnoxx's point- the rest was just my take on it.....and I wouldn't yet generalize that MLS stars struggle badly in the EPL.....not proven over a long enough time period to be branded as a trend in my opinion.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 12:59:38 PM
Their MLS stars struggle in EPL badly..

Not true.....

From the time an AMERICAN begins making critical comments about the EPL, yuh know such will be taken with a pound of salt on a TRINI message board because:

For some strange reason, Trinis fail to respect the U.S. acheivement in football and hence disregard any American perspective about football (pure bad mind)


There's a lot of truth in what you write here...but I don't think you address Ponnoxx' point...MLS/American players struggle badly in England. John Harkes had a decent career at Sheffield Wednesday, and Keller, Friedel, Hahnemann and Howard have had stellar GK careers. Outside of Brian McBride who is an absolute stud...no other American position player has really distinguished himself. Reyna...please. Beasely likely won't be back with Man. City, Onweyu was supposed to be the next best thing at defender....he's out of a club right now...Bobby Convey is playing so-so ball...Bocanegra, Dempsey (Fullham) and Corey Gibbs (Charlton), DeMerit (Watford) are all up and down. The list goes on.


Now...

That said, it's a credit to the direction in which the USSF has been going, and to MLS itself that they have so many young players with an opportunity to play in the EPL. Contrast that with TnT...we now will have three in one fell swoop as of August. Yet Trinis love cry down the Americans as you say. Obviously they're doing something right.

Only the first line of that post was in response to Ponnoxx's point- the rest was just my take on it...

which is why I disagreed on the first line...and concurred on the rest that I quoted...
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 01:03:21 PM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".

 ??? ???
I think he means that Lalas isn't so much criticizing the quality of the EPL game, but moreso the quality of the EPL as a marketable entity.

Six on one hand...half dozen on the other if you ask me though.  The EPL is in great financial shape...so obviously they're doing a bang up job with marketing to sponsors and fans.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2007, 01:03:30 PM
Their MLS stars struggle in EPL badly..

Not true.....

From the time an AMERICAN begins making critical comments about the EPL, yuh know such will be taken with a pound of salt on a TRINI message board because:

For some strange reason, Trinis fail to respect the U.S. acheivement in football and hence disregard any American perspective about football (pure bad mind)


There's a lot of truth in what you write here...but I don't think you address Ponnoxx' point...MLS/American players struggle badly in England. John Harkes had a decent career at Sheffield Wednesday, and Keller, Friedel, Hahnemann and Howard have had stellar GK careers. Outside of Brian McBride who is an absolute stud...no other American position player has really distinguished himself. Reyna...please. Beasely likely won't be back with Man. City, Onweyu was supposed to be the next best thing at defender....he's out of a club right now...Bobby Convey is playing so-so ball...Bocanegra, Dempsey (Fullham) and Corey Gibbs (Charlton), DeMerit (Watford) are all up and down. The list goes on.


Now...

That said, it's a credit to the direction in which the USSF has been going, and to MLS itself that they have so many young players with an opportunity to play in the EPL. Contrast that with TnT...we now will have three in one fell swoop as of August. Yet Trinis love cry down the Americans as you say. Obviously they're doing something right.

Only the first line of that post was in response to Ponnoxx's point- the rest was just my take on it...

which is why I disagreed on the first line...and concurred on the rest that I quoted...

hard luck boy Bakes....laawwd yuh quick on the draw...I was just expanding on meh point, (prematurely hit "send")...and yuh hit meh b4 ah could modify.....hear meh out again- above... :beermug:
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2007, 01:06:03 PM


hard luck boy Bakes....laawwd yuh quick on the draw...I was just expanding on meh point, (prematurely hit "send")...and yuh hit meh b4 ah could modify.....hear meh out again- above... :beermug:
lol...ah juss doing ah quick run thru before ah breeze out...


If they cyah stick long enuf to prove theyself what that tell yuh  8)
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2007, 01:11:57 PM


hard luck boy Bakes....laawwd yuh quick on the draw...I was just expanding on meh point, (prematurely hit "send")...and yuh hit meh b4 ah could modify.....hear meh out again- above... :beermug:
lol...ah juss doing ah quick run thru before ah breeze out...


If they cyah stick long enuf to prove theyself what that tell yuh 8)

Point taken...IMHO though for a country that only got its act together (football-wise) in the last decade and a half, their players have done their cause no major harm in England (and Europe in general)- Now if yuh want to talk about players who traditionally (long enough to call a trend) struggle badly outside of their home------ Mexico !!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: elan on June 19, 2007, 01:22:25 PM
The commentators during T&T game vs USA, one of them (Caliguiri I believe)  said that not even the Mexicans in the Mexican league is playing at a high standard; that the MLS was better then the Mexican League. I could not understand how he come up with that, but now here is another "great" American saying that the EPL is inferior.


Look at the standings. The supposedly best team is just that supposedly.
http://web.mlsnet.com/standings/index.jsp

http://web.mlsnet.com/stats/index.jsp

All this amount to is nothing.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: ribbit on June 19, 2007, 01:46:51 PM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".

 ??? ???
I think he means that Lalas isn't so much criticizing the quality of the EPL game, but moreso the quality of the EPL as a marketable entity.

Six on one hand...half dozen on the other if you ask me though. The EPL is in great financial shape...so obviously they're doing a bang up job with marketing to sponsors and fans.

thanks bake n' shark - that's exactly what i meant.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 01:48:22 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop
I know he ent schupid enough to compare MLS to the EPL...but he did say that it is an inferior product...not 'disappointing'...inferior.

The question then becomes...inferior compared to what?

As I said in my first post....he used some poor words and definitely has an axe to grind. His words came across as defensive and a lil' bit angry. He lost his credibility even more so when he used the word inferior. Now most people are losing their heads and comparing MLS to EPL and saying Lalas is insane (well..OK..he insane, but for entirely different reasons). He should take some speech writing lessons from Shaka. Anyhow..when I read Lalas comments, what I got is someone saying that the product is inferior to perception. The EPL has sold itself successfully as the best league in Europe, and Lalas believes that it isn't. He is not alone. His way of expressing that though is unfortunate. ironically, I am 100% sure that MLS wishes it could do the same thing. They not chasing fellas like Becks purely for sporting reasons..marketing and hype are part of the mix. He is just vex that the English call the MLS a mickey mouse league..so he's taking a shot back at the EPL as an overrated, overhyped league. That's my take.

This may be true that was not holding up the MLS to the EPL, but my point as a representative of the MLS he is the last person to talk.
Leave them kinda aruguments for men from Spain and Italy.

Sorry boss..but if the man want to call it how he sees it, he free to do so. Doh matter what we think of MLS. No matter if he wrong. The man patriotic and standing behind his league after a set of outsiders decide to denigrate it. If the English press come round PFL and start to talk shite..I want Skeene to stand up behind it and pelt some hand too. Even if he know he out of his weight class. That kinda 'know yuh place' attitude done. When T&T play England in the World Cup, we was bullish..we talk about all the weaknesses England had, how we go take them. By your logic, we shoulda hush and take we licks lying down. Lalas didn't pull it off right..he lacking the skills. But I like him for standing up for his. We should take note.


Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 02:00:52 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Don't you think that his saying that if MLS players were put into the Premeireship they wouldn't miss a beat...isn't that insinuating that the MLS is at least on par with the EPL? That seems to be a comparison to me.

Lalas:
In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2007, 02:09:34 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Maybe not directly, but he did refer to the MLS as "one of the world's most competitive leagues". Yes it was made in a different point, but if in the same discussion you refer to the EPL as inferior (relatively or absolutely), and then refer to the MLS as one of the world most competitive leagues- there might be some sorta indirect comparison there...either that or some sort of self-contradiction

Like you say, he has an axe to grind, and he's on a bit of a pro-American tirade.....understandably so...and oh well....

I stand by the notion that the majority of fuss on this thread is about Trinis fighting down the U.S./MLS & at the same time worshipping the EPL.....if Rafa Benitez came out and said that there are a handful of PFL players that could walk on to Liverpool and not miss a beat, we woulda quote it as the gospel, even though the absurdity of such a statement is exponentially greater than anything that Lalas said....plain talk eh no bad manners....
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 02:11:00 PM
A more comprehensive article. Sorry bout the Guardian one.

LONDON Alexi Lalas helped humiliate English soccer 14 years ago. It looks like he's trying to do it again.
The Los Angeles Galaxy president, who scored when the United States beat England 2-0 in a friendly match in 1993, told British newspapers that Major League Soccer is on a par with the Premier League.

Irked by suggestions that David Beckham is going into semiretirement by joining the Galaxy, Lalas said the only reason the English league is popular is because of American-style marketing.
The fact that a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business, Lalas said in an interview with The Guardian published Tuesday.

In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.
Brian McBride and Clint Dempsey are among the American players in the Premier League, although they play for modest Fulham. None of the American players in England are stars of the caliber of those at teams such as Manchester United and Chelsea.

McBride the third highest scorer in U.S. national team history with 30 goals scored nine times last season for Fulham, which finished 16th in the Premier League. His tally was 12 short of Didier Drogba's league-high 21 for Chelsea, and the same as Wigan's Emile Heskey and Aston Villa's Gabriel Agbonlahor.

Despite criticizing the Premier League for sloganeering and over-marketing, Lalas claimed that, when he arrives, Beckham will have a higher profile in the United States than Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan.

The U.S. will never have dealt with an athlete who has had this kind of international impact, Lalas told The Mirror. Tiger Woods has that international appeal but, with due respect to Woods and Michael Jordan, David Beckham is at an entirely different level.

Lalas, a 37-year-old former United States defender, said his country's record at the past four World Cups compared favorably with that of England England has two underwhelming quarterfinal appearances to one for the U.S. and suggested almost all those who criticize the MLS have yet to see the league.

However, several British papers were unimpressed by the Galaxy's 3-2 win over Real Salt Lake on Sunday.

The game was not without moments of quality ... (but) some of the defending from both sides was the type of stuff you watch through your fingers, according to The Mirror. It was the football equivalent of a demolition derby.

The use of possession was alarmingly careless and the concept of marking appeared not to have found its way across the Atlantic.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: daryn on June 19, 2007, 02:17:40 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Maybe not directly, but he did refer to the MLS as "one of the world's most competitive leagues".

competitiveness and quality are not the same thing.  I think he was comparing the competitiveness of the two leagues as opposed to their quality.
 
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 02:20:31 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Maybe not directly, but he did refer to the MLS as "one of the world's most competitive leagues".

competitiveness and quality are not the same thing. I think he was comparing the competitiveness of the two leagues as opposed to their quality.
 

No, he was comparing quality. He actually said that if MLS players were taken to the Premeireship, the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality. Dis man mad oui. I doh even rate the EPL out of rivalry buh he have to be on some serious drugs.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 02:27:44 PM
It had a list or something on this forum a time...Anyhow...Toppa...MLS seperating itself from PFL in my book because of fitness and a better marketing plan(understandable)...The skill of the league that distinguishable in my opinion...If you look at the Mexican league or the Argentine league you could see that all the players are at a higher level...I get vex when Beenie and Wim bad talk the PFL because , I mean what they expect ...PFL big issue is to get people out their houses to go to games....Generally Trinbagonians very polar and (this is not a word eh what the hell) waggonistical that they don't support anything until other people take notice...America has made tremendous strides in football but they remain stagnant for all the progress they gained...I say this simply because Football from top to bottom is the same...Good basic Football...I mean you can't ask for anything more but I think that is the reason why they are not respected as much...You go to MLS, USL, PDL and Super-Y and they all play alike....Just who more athletic makes it to the top...This is a good thing because it shows that all American players on a decent technical level...Until you see an American player born in AMerica with American grandparents hitting man body dancie-like fakes, cheeky shots, no look pass, executing serious control and even just beating for the hell of it, They will never be respected....Well I guess you could say unless you see PFL players develop the kind of fitness needed at the highest level they will never be respected either...which is true....Football is cultural....We too lazy to emphasize superior fitness and them to methodical to step out the square that they are in...Technique and Athleticism alone can't win World Cups...African players grow up with less resources than our players but they are not lazy and push their athletic potential to the max....Why you think Foreign clubs does take our players? Cheap, something different because a man with good technique could always be found(think about it), and does usually look athletic(not always the case)...They does think if they get the player fit enough...with his skill he would be a big player and plus he cheap....We players lazy and don't usually push themselves....Football is cultural...tell a Trini reach 1'oclock and he reaching 15 minutes pass....Go T&T

Both true statements, fortunately these can be corrected in the PFL. That correction has to start from the top down and the clubs have to establish a club specific culture. Professionalism must be established at the clubs, if they let players know that playing football is their"jobs" and that they can be replaced or benched and that there are expectations that come with playing for the various clubs the whole business of fitness levels, fighting to the end, leaving everything on the pitch etc would be passe.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: daryn on June 19, 2007, 02:29:28 PM

No, he was comparing quality. He actually said that if MLS players were taken to the Premeireship, the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality. Dis man mad oui. I doh even rate the EPL out of rivalry buh he have to be on some serious drugs.

I'm just referring to the one line "one of the world's most competitive leagues".  Kicker was right to point out that by using that line he was implicitly making a comparison.  In fact he is implicitly comparing the mls to every other league in the world with that statement.  However, at least in that statement, he is comparing competitiveness as opposed to quality.

apparently he is of the mindset that a competitive football is a better "product" than good football (not that the two are mutually exclusive).  maybe there is some merit in that.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 02:37:29 PM

No, he was comparing quality. He actually said that if MLS players were taken to the Premeireship, the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality. Dis man mad oui. I doh even rate the EPL out of rivalry buh he have to be on some serious drugs.

I'm just referring to the one line "one of the world's most competitive leagues". Kicker was right to point out that by using that line he was implicitly making a comparison. In fact he is implicitly comparing the mls to every other league in the world with that statement. However, at least in that statement, he is comparing competitiveness as opposed to quality.

apparently he is of the mindset that a competitive football is a better "product" than good football (not that the two are mutually exclusive). maybe there is some merit in that.

Yeah but he's not only comparing competitiveness. He also compared sheer quality by his other statements. Sorry for not posting a better article initially.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: MEP on June 19, 2007, 02:42:38 PM
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: and allyuh chupid enough to listen to lalas when stray dog barking ah good big stone go usually shut it up....
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 02:43:28 PM
A more comprehensive article. Sorry bout the Guardian one.

LONDON Alexi Lalas helped humiliate English soccer 14 years ago. It looks like he's trying to do it again.
The Los Angeles Galaxy president, who scored when the United States beat England 2-0 in a friendly match in 1993, told British newspapers that Major League Soccer is on a par with the Premier League.

Irked by suggestions that David Beckham is going into semiretirement by joining the Galaxy, Lalas said the only reason the English league is popular is because of American-style marketing.
The fact that a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business, Lalas said in an interview with The Guardian published Tuesday.

In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.
Brian McBride and Clint Dempsey are among the American players in the Premier League, although they play for modest Fulham. None of the American players in England are stars of the caliber of those at teams such as Manchester United and Chelsea.

McBride the third highest scorer in U.S. national team history with 30 goals scored nine times last season for Fulham, which finished 16th in the Premier League. His tally was 12 short of Didier Drogba's league-high 21 for Chelsea, and the same as Wigan's Emile Heskey and Aston Villa's Gabriel Agbonlahor.

Despite criticizing the Premier League for sloganeering and over-marketing, Lalas claimed that, when he arrives, Beckham will have a higher profile in the United States than Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan. The U.S. will never have dealt with an athlete who has had this kind of international impact, Lalas told The Mirror. Tiger Woods has that international appeal but, with due respect to Woods and Michael Jordan, David Beckham is at an entirely different level.

Lalas, a 37-year-old former United States defender, said his country's record at the past four World Cups compared favorably with that of England England has two underwhelming quarterfinal appearances to one for the U.S. and suggested almost all those who criticize the MLS have yet to see the league.

However, several British papers were unimpressed by the Galaxy's 3-2 win over Real Salt Lake on Sunday.

The game was not without moments of quality ... (but) some of the defending from both sides was the type of stuff you watch through your fingers, according to The Mirror. It was the football equivalent of a demolition derby.

The use of possession was alarmingly careless and the concept of marking appeared not to have found its way across the Atlantic.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html


Talk about using some good old American marketing ::)
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 02:44:21 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Maybe not directly, but he did refer to the MLS as "one of the world's most competitive leagues".

competitiveness and quality are not the same thing. I think he was comparing the competitiveness of the two leagues as opposed to their quality.
 

what's the difference?
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: daryn on June 19, 2007, 02:57:24 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Maybe not directly, but he did refer to the MLS as "one of the world's most competitive leagues".

competitiveness and quality are not the same thing.  I think he was comparing the competitiveness of the two leagues as opposed to their quality.
 

what's the difference?

competitiveness is a measure of how evenly matched the teams in the league are.  It's not as big of a surprise for a team at/near the bottom of the table of the mls to beat a team at/near the top of the table.  there is a bigger sense of uncertainty going into such a game in the mls.  this is why he also used the "haves and have-nots" when referring to the EPL.

as for the claim that you could carry a bunch of mls players to england, the question is: how would an average mls team do against fulham or reading or wigan.  more than a few mls players have moved to the EPL with relatively smooth transitions.  Of course these guys were above average in the mls and none of them is playing for the top handful of teams.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 19, 2007, 03:06:42 PM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".

 ??? ???
I think he means that Lalas isn't so much criticizing the quality of the EPL game, but moreso the quality of the EPL as a marketable entity.

Six on one hand...half dozen on the other if you ask me though. The EPL is in great financial shape...so obviously they're doing a bang up job with marketing to sponsors and fans.

thanks bake n' shark - that's exactly what i meant.

Forgive me if I am putting words in your mouth but i dont think that is what you meant to say at all, just that BnS put a good spin on it so you like that.

Quote
Alexi Lalas, the president of LA Galaxy and the man responsible for taking David Beckham to Major League Soccer in the United States next month, has suggested that the Premiership is an "inferior product" whose global success is largely down to American marketing techniques.
"There's no accounting for bad taste," Lalas said in an exclusive interview with the Guardian. "That a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business. English football now has the haves and the have-nots. It's just that the Premiership have become so skilled in presentation. They took a page out of American football and so now they have Saturday Showdowns and Super Sundays. I love it. This is high-calibre marketing - taking an inferior product and improving it through packaging."

yuh see all them bolded lines, is the football the man talking about, the so called quality of the EPL as a marketable entity is the quality of its football.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 03:13:31 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Maybe not directly, but he did refer to the MLS as "one of the world's most competitive leagues".

competitiveness and quality are not the same thing. I think he was comparing the competitiveness of the two leagues as opposed to their quality.
 

what's the difference?

competitiveness is a measure of how evenly matched the teams in the league are. It's not as big of a surprise for a team at/near the bottom of the table of the mls to beat a team at/near the top of the table. there is a bigger sense of uncertainty going into such a game in the mls. this is why he also used the "haves and have-nots" when referring to the EPL.

as for the claim that you could carry a bunch of mls players to england, the question is: how would an average mls team do against fulham or reading or wigan. more than a few mls players have moved to the EPL with relatively smooth transitions. Of course these guys were above average in the mls and none of them is playing for the top handful of teams.

What about quality?
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 03:25:14 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Don't you think that his saying that if MLS players were put into the Premeireship they wouldn't miss a beat...isn't that insinuating that the MLS is at least on par with the EPL? That seems to be a comparison to me.

Lalas:
In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html

I am referring specifically to the comment about inferior product. He is not inferring that EPL is inferior to MLS imo. Even his comment about MLS players being able to hold their own in the EPL is not a direct comparison of the 2 leagues. For a league to be on par with another, your players can't just be capable of making the grade..even Lalas knows that. He did not say they would light it up or excel in the EPL. He just said they would make the grade. I agree completely with him. Many MLS players could do a decent job in the EPL and EPL managers beginning to realize. Forget the top 6. Lewwe talk about Man City, Reading and Fulham etc...Many MLS players could go to the EPL and do a decent job. Lalas never said they would dominate. They would just get the job done like most of their English counterparts. You wouldn't even notice they were American if you didn't already know. All the American players in the MLS filling in like the majority of English players..they not stars, but you not saying..'he look at them stale Yanks'. AND most of them even came out of the US college system, so they were at a disadvantage in their development. Even fellas like Onyewu (ok..he never played MLS) and Beasly who did not earn contracts were no worse than the majority of their teammates. Lalas eh lie at all. Shitsnake Jay De Meritt and all ;D starting right through..doh mind his side get relegated, the man play in the EPL and didn't stink no more than his teammates. heheh.... I know Lalas went overboard..but the man lose his cool or his brain lil loose. Underneath it all I see some truth to man statements
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: daryn on June 19, 2007, 03:27:49 PM
competitiveness is a measure of how evenly matched the teams in the league are.  It's not as big of a surprise for a team at/near the bottom of the table of the mls to beat a team at/near the top of the table.  there is a bigger sense of uncertainty going into such a game in the mls.  this is why he also used the "haves and have-nots" when referring to the EPL.

as for the claim that you could carry a bunch of mls players to england, the question is: how would an average mls team do against fulham or reading or wigan.  more than a few mls players have moved to the EPL with relatively smooth transitions.  Of course these guys were above average in the mls and none of them is playing for the top handful of teams.

What about quality?

sorry, I thought that competitiveness was the problematic term.  by quality I just mean how good the teams, and by extension the game, are.

for example, even if we assume that the worst EPL team is better than the best MLS team it doesn't mean that Man U v Watford is more evenly poised than Red Bulls v Real Salt Lake.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Pointman on June 19, 2007, 03:31:46 PM
competitiveness is a measure of how evenly matched the teams in the league are. It's not as big of a surprise for a team at/near the bottom of the table of the mls to beat a team at/near the top of the table. there is a bigger sense of uncertainty going into such a game in the mls. this is why he also used the "haves and have-nots" when referring to the EPL.

as for the claim that you could carry a bunch of mls players to england, the question is: how would an average mls team do against fulham or reading or wigan. more than a few mls players have moved to the EPL with relatively smooth transitions. Of course these guys were above average in the mls and none of them is playing for the top handful of teams.

What about quality?

sorry, I thought that competitiveness was the problematic term. by quality I just mean how good the teams, and by extension the game, are.

for example, even if we assume that the worst EPL team is better than the best MLS team it doesn't mean that Man U v Watford is more evenly poised than Red Bulls v Real Salt Lake.

thanks
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 03:45:52 PM
Lalas is NOT comparing MLS to the EPL..so all who getting worked up about that just wasting their time. You might still diasgree with him..but please read and comprehend. Man saying the EPL doh live up to its own hype....fullstop

Don't you think that his saying that if MLS players were put into the Premeireship they wouldn't miss a beat...isn't that insinuating that the MLS is at least on par with the EPL? That seems to be a comparison to me.

Lalas:
In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20070619-0611-soc-galaxy-beckham.html

I am referring specifically to the comment about inferior product. He is not inferring that EPL is inferior to MLS imo. Even his comment about MLS players being able to hold their own in the EPL is not a direct comparison of the 2 leagues. For a league to be on par with another, your players can't just be capable of making the grade..even Lalas knows that. He did not say they would light it up or excel in the EPL. He just said they would make the grade. I agree completely with him. Many MLS players could do a decent job in the EPL and EPL managers beginning to realize. Forget the top 6. Lewwe talk about Man City, Reading and Fulham etc...Many MLS players could go to the EPL and do a decent job. Lalas never said they would dominate. They would just get the job done like most of their English counterparts. You wouldn't even notice they were American if you didn't already know. All the American players in the MLS filling in like the majority of English players..they not stars, but you not saying..'he look at them stale Yanks'. AND most of them even came out of the US college system, so they were at a disadvantage in their development. Even fellas like Onyewu (ok..he never played MLS) and Beasly who did not earn contracts were no worse than the majority of their teammates. Lalas eh lie at all. Shitsnake Jay De Meritt and all ;D starting right through..doh mind his side get relegated, the man play in the EPL and didn't stink no more than his teammates. heheh.... I know Lalas went overboard..but the man lose his cool or his brain lil loose. Underneath it all I see some truth to man statements

Excuse me, but by saying that the MLS players wouldn't "miss a beat" and that there would be no "difference in quality" he is obviously saying that they are on par/at the same level as their Englsih counter-parts...that there is a comparison. And he didn't even say whether he was talking about the mid-tier clubs, leaving us to assume that he meant the league in general, which would obviously include the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2007, 04:03:26 PM
THat is why the MLS is total crap and would NEVER reach.  That's why american sports fans think that football is for gays.  In addition to the way that them the men's team does run. (very strange technique  ;))  these arrogant statements is why American Soccer will never be taken seriously.  This think is not just Lalas all the commentators does say the same duncy things.

Anyways I think we league as good as la liga.  And from the way we perform at the Gold Cup you could sub in we fellas and we ent go miss a beat neither.   ;D
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 04:10:49 PM
THat is why the MLS is total crap and would NEVER reach. That's why american sports fans think that football is for gays. In addition to the way that them the men's team does run. (very strange technique ;)) these arrogant statements is why American Soccer will never be taken seriously. This think is not just Lalas all the commentators does say the same duncy things.

Anyways I think we league as good as la liga.  And from the way we perform at the Gold Cup you could sub in we fellas and we ent go miss a beat neither.   ;D

Come nah man!  :D
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 04:49:50 PM
Excuse me, but by saying that the MLS players wouldn't "miss a beat" and that there would be no "difference in quality" he is obviously saying that they are on par/at the same level as their Englsih counter-parts...that there is a comparison. And he didn't even say whether he was talking about the mid-tier clubs, leaving us to assume that he meant the league in general, which would obviously include the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Nope. There is no real comparison of leagues there. He just inferring you wouldn't notice any difference from the average. He is not using those exact words, but to me, that is what he is inferring.  Now the man taking a shot..so he pushing the boundaries a little..and on purpose. But did he say any MLS players would be stars in the EPL? NOPE. That to me says he not really saying they are equal, cuz for MLS to be on par with the EPL, its not good enough to just handle your stories. YTou have to have a few who could more than ride with the very best and he is careful not go so far. Right now he saying that he feels many of his boys could play in the EPL without looking out of place..and more and more of them doing it. So I cah hate on the man.

Besides..I look at it this way. Them English snobs writing some real poor reviews about your product and most of them just elitist snobs who never even watch a game. steeuups. When the English belittle our warriors..what we say. OH the EPL overrated..them fellas not good. Oh we could beat them. This one and that one good enough for EPL..blah blah blah. Same setta ah allyuh come back now and crying down Lalas. The English belittling the Americans and we vex cuz Lalas come back swinging. So what if you disagree..the man doing the right thing (and is good kix too). So what if he need some lessons in subtelty. Hit them boy Alexi...Let the establishment know that when they want to get nasty, you go fight back. Is only US hate on this board..steups. In principal I standing with Alexi.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 05:11:31 PM
Excuse me, but by saying that the MLS players wouldn't "miss a beat" and that there would be no "difference in quality" he is obviously saying that they are on par/at the same level as their Englsih counter-parts...that there is a comparison. And he didn't even say whether he was talking about the mid-tier clubs, leaving us to assume that he meant the league in general, which would obviously include the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Nope. There is no real comparison of leagues there. He just inferring you wouldn't notice any difference from the average. He is not using those exact words, but to me, that is what he is inferring. Now the man taking a shot..so he pushing the boundaries a little..and on purpose. But did he say any MLS players would be stars in the EPL? NOPE. That to me says he not really saying they are equal, cuz for MLS to be on par with the EPL, its not good enough to just handle your stories. YTou have to have a few who could more than ride with the very best and he is careful not go so far. Right now he saying that he feels many of his boys could play in the EPL without looking out of place..and more and more of them doing it. So I cah hate on the man.

Besides..I look at it this way. Them English snobs writing some real poor reviews about your product and most of them just elitist snobs who never even watch a game. steeuups. When the English belittle our warriors..what we say. OH the EPL overrated..them fellas not good. Oh we could beat them. This one and that one good enough for EPL..blah blah blah. Same setta ah allyuh come back now and crying down Lalas. The English belittling the Americans and we vex cuz Lalas come back swinging. So what if you disagree..the man doing the right thing (and is good kix too). So what if he need some lessons in subtelty. Hit them boy Alexi...Let the establishment know that when they want to get nasty, you go fight back. Is only US hate on this board..steups. In principal I standing with Alexi.

And in order to infer anything between the MLS and the EPL a comparison has to be made. Yuh real stubborn horse. :D

Compare: v. 1 estimate, measure or note the similarity between; point out or describe the resemblances of something with; liken to.

So umm...yeah, Lalas was comparing the MLS to the EPL and his assessment was that MLS players would be able to hold their own and perform on par with players in the EPL. Whether you agree with him or not is beside the point.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: trinikev on June 19, 2007, 05:29:23 PM
Excuse me, but by saying that the MLS players wouldn't "miss a beat" and that there would be no "difference in quality" he is obviously saying that they are on par/at the same level as their Englsih counter-parts...that there is a comparison. And he didn't even say whether he was talking about the mid-tier clubs, leaving us to assume that he meant the league in general, which would obviously include the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Nope. There is no real comparison of leagues there. He just inferring you wouldn't notice any difference from the average. He is not using those exact words, but to me, that is what he is inferring. Now the man taking a shot..so he pushing the boundaries a little..and on purpose. But did he say any MLS players would be stars in the EPL? NOPE. That to me says he not really saying they are equal, cuz for MLS to be on par with the EPL, its not good enough to just handle your stories. YTou have to have a few who could more than ride with the very best and he is careful not go so far. Right now he saying that he feels many of his boys could play in the EPL without looking out of place..and more and more of them doing it. So I cah hate on the man.

Besides..I look at it this way. Them English snobs writing some real poor reviews about your product and most of them just elitist snobs who never even watch a game. steeuups. When the English belittle our warriors..what we say. OH the EPL overrated..them fellas not good. Oh we could beat them. This one and that one good enough for EPL..blah blah blah. Same setta ah allyuh come back now and crying down Lalas. The English belittling the Americans and we vex cuz Lalas come back swinging. So what if you disagree..the man doing the right thing (and is good kix too). So what if he need some lessons in subtelty. Hit them boy Alexi...Let the establishment know that when they want to get nasty, you go fight back. Is only US hate on this board..steups. In principal I standing with Alexi.

I agreed with almost everything u been saying so far Filho, but i think Toppa have a point there. While u right that his comment did not explicitly compare the leagues, by saying that taking a handful of MLS players and putting it in the EPL wudn't change anything, I see that as him saying that the players in the MLS are just as good as those in the EPL. And i doh think he referring to Beckham and Pablo Angel there. Thats the only point where i agree that he making a comparison, whether he realise that or not. Daz jus MHO tho  :beermug:
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: weary1969 on June 19, 2007, 05:43:31 PM
I eh no lover of the EPl. That being said dem fellas doin marketing b4 man hear bout the 4 P's of marketing.

So Lalas why not learn from dem and see how u can market that jokey league call the MLS.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: triniairman on June 19, 2007, 07:45:04 PM
All of you who talking about LalAss MAKING SENSE is just ah bunch ah EPL haters stueps.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 08:02:45 PM
All of you who talking about LalAss MAKING SENSE is just ah bunch ah EPL haters stueps.

nope.. I love the EPL. And although I disagree with how Lalas expressed his point, I think I understand and agree with a lot of what he is saying. The EPL is a very well promoted, well marketed product. It is miles ahead of La Liga and Serie A in terms of global viewership, profiability and commercial viability. If you believe that is all down to what is going on on the pitch (that part is dam good and exciting)..well, you're wrong. You don't have to be an EPL hater to recognize what a good job they have done promoting the product. Would I use the term inferior...never..but as I said before, I doh mind that Lalas come out swinging  ;D
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: jai john on June 19, 2007, 08:20:29 PM
All of you who talking about LalAss MAKING SENSE is just ah bunch ah EPL haters stueps.

nope.. I love the EPL. And although I disagree with how Lalas expressed his point, I think I understand and agree with a lot of what he is saying. The EPL is a very well promoted, well marketed product. It is miles ahead of La Liga and Serie A in terms of global viewership, profiability and commercial viability. If you believe that is all down to what is going on on the pitch (that part is dam good and exciting)..well, you're wrong. You don't have to be an EPL hater to recognize what a good job they have done promoting the product. Would I use the term inferior...never..but as I said before, I doh mind that Lalas come out swinging ;D


you think the strength of the english currency also helps this process along ? After all evryone wants to play for chelsea in the premiership ......because of the quality of their football right ?
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 09:08:22 PM
And in order to infer anything between the MLS and the EPL a comparison has to be made. Yuh real stubborn horse. :D

Compare: v. 1 estimate, measure or note the similarity between; point out or describe the resemblances of something with; liken to.

So umm...yeah, Lalas was comparing the MLS to the EPL and his assessment was that MLS players would be able to hold their own and perform on par with players in the EPL. Whether you agree with him or not is beside the point.

Toppa..I am a subborn fella :devil: :devil:. But I not stubborn for stubborness sake. Yeah..he is indirectly comparing the 2 leagues. No doubt. When I first said he was not comparing them, I did not see the part about the MLS players being able to hold their own in the EPL. My first 2 responses were to the original post which I think did not have that part. I think that was added later..no? Like I said, I was really referring to the 'inferior' comment. I was saying he is not calling it an inferior product compared to the MLS. Of course, in typical fashion, I couldn't leave it at that. I wanted to say that Lalas had not said anything to indicate he thought the two leagues wer on par and mistakenly argued that he was not comparing them. But you're correct. It is an indirect comparison of the leagues. Does he really think every MLS player could make it in the EPL? I doubt that. Could anyone be that deluded? His statement reads a lot like hyperbole. He is exaggerating to make a point. I think you could take any number of players from the portuguese league and they would do a decent job in the EPL, same for Holland or France...yet it is widely accepted that these are inferior leagues to the EPL. So I just was not reading to much into that statement other than 'we produce a decent number of good players'.

Watch and see tomorrow he will say the MLS better than the EPL and I will have to flicking hit him a lash after a defend him whole day on de forum ;D
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Toppa on June 19, 2007, 09:16:13 PM
And in order to infer anything between the MLS and the EPL a comparison has to be made. Yuh real stubborn horse. :D

Compare: v. 1 estimate, measure or note the similarity between; point out or describe the resemblances of something with; liken to.

So umm...yeah, Lalas was comparing the MLS to the EPL and his assessment was that MLS players would be able to hold their own and perform on par with players in the EPL. Whether you agree with him or not is beside the point.

Toppa..I am a subborn fella :devil: :devil:. But I not stubborn for stubborness sake. Yeah..he is indirectly comparing the 2 leagues. No doubt. When I first said he was not comparing them, I did not see the part about the MLS players being able to hold their own in the EPL. My first 2 responses were to the original post which I think did not have that part. I think that was added later..no? Then even when I saw that, I was confusing the idea that he really was not saying the leagues are equal...with not comparing them. But you're correct. It is an indirect comparison of the leagues. Does he really think every MLS player could make it in the EPL. I doubt that. Could anyone be that deluded? His statement reads a lot like hyperbole. He is exaggerating to make a point. I am looking at it like that, so I really don't get a clear picture of how he feels about MLS as a league compared to the EPL. And I don't think that is his intention. At best I can say I don't think he really believes they are comparable, but you're right, in doing so he has compared them.

Watch and see tomorrow he will say the MLS better than the EPL and I will have to flicking hit him a lash after a defend him whole day on de forum ;D

Yeah, no scene. Maybe he really did just want to lash out, buh he just make it harder for people to take him or the MLS seriously. But at least he made my facebook quotes, so that's a plus for him.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 09:18:24 PM
And in order to infer anything between the MLS and the EPL a comparison has to be made. Yuh real stubborn horse. :D

Compare: v. 1 estimate, measure or note the similarity between; point out or describe the resemblances of something with; liken to.

So umm...yeah, Lalas was comparing the MLS to the EPL and his assessment was that MLS players would be able to hold their own and perform on par with players in the EPL. Whether you agree with him or not is beside the point.

Toppa..I am a subborn fella :devil: :devil:. But I not stubborn for stubborness sake. Yeah..he is indirectly comparing the 2 leagues. No doubt. When I first said he was not comparing them, I did not see the part about the MLS players being able to hold their own in the EPL. My first 2 responses were to the original post which I think did not have that part. I think that was added later..no? Then even when I saw that, I was confusing the idea that he really was not saying the leagues are equal...with not comparing them. But you're correct. It is an indirect comparison of the leagues. Does he really think every MLS player could make it in the EPL. I doubt that. Could anyone be that deluded? His statement reads a lot like hyperbole. He is exaggerating to make a point. I am looking at it like that, so I really don't get a clear picture of how he feels about MLS as a league compared to the EPL. And I don't think that is his intention. At best I can say I don't think he really believes they are comparable, but you're right, in doing so he has compared them.

Watch and see tomorrow he will say the MLS better than the EPL and I will have to flicking hit him a lash after a defend him whole day on de forum ;D

Yeah, no scene. Maybe he really did just want to lash out, buh he just make it harder for people to take him or the MLS seriously. But at least he made my facebook quotes, so that's a plus for him.

Yeah..just so you know. I made some edits to the post. I didn't change the gist, but it will read differently from what you quoted. THought I could change it up a bit before anyone replied..Allyuh too swift ;D

Lalas knows what he is doing. People all over the world discussing his statements. This is probably all a carefully planned publicity stunt by MLS. Every football chatroom, blog etc...is talking about Alexi Lalas. More people will be inclined to tune it to MLS to see what this 'idiot' is talking about
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2007, 09:19:20 PM
Excuse me, but by saying that the MLS players wouldn't "miss a beat" and that there would be no "difference in quality" he is obviously saying that they are on par/at the same level as their Englsih counter-parts...that there is a comparison. And he didn't even say whether he was talking about the mid-tier clubs, leaving us to assume that he meant the league in general, which would obviously include the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Nope. There is no real comparison of leagues there.

Like I said b4, even though there is no direct comparison (in the first article), yuh hadda be a real technical man relying on semantics & splitting hairs to deny that Lalas is not implying that the MLS is on par with the EPL (even if he doesn't believe it deep down inside himself) based on his statements.....Technically what he expressing is that MLS players are somewhat technically on par with EPL players in general...Deducing a similar comparison of leagues by extrapolation is not that far of stretch- give Toppa a bligh....

It is true that saying MLS players wouldn't miss a beat if dropped in the middle of a EPL game is not necessarily a comparison of the leagues- just because players are technically on par doesn't make the league on par, because the EPL consists of more teams, more competitions, more games, more global exposure, greater pressure from the press, more passionate fans, bigger prize money, bigger salaries, more endorsement opportunities etc............................so there are many factors that set the leagues apart other than the technical ability of the players (which Lalas is speaking more directly too)....but I eh go dis Toppa for drawing the deduction that she did....Lalas was taking a jab at the EPL, and in some form or the other comparing it to the MLS.....
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Filho on June 19, 2007, 09:26:35 PM
Excuse me, but by saying that the MLS players wouldn't "miss a beat" and that there would be no "difference in quality" he is obviously saying that they are on par/at the same level as their Englsih counter-parts...that there is a comparison. And he didn't even say whether he was talking about the mid-tier clubs, leaving us to assume that he meant the league in general, which would obviously include the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Nope. There is no real comparison of leagues there.

Like I said b4, even though there is no direct comparison (in the first article), yuh hadda be a real technical man relying on semantics & splitting hairs to deny that Lalas is not implying that the MLS is on par with the EPL (even if he doesn't believe it deep down inside himself) based on his statements.....Technically what he expressing is that MLS players are somewhat technically on par with EPL players in general...Deducing a similar comparison of leagues by extrapolation is not that far of stretch- give Toppa a bligh....

It is true that saying MLS players wouldn't miss a beat if dropped in the middle of a EPL game is not necessarily a comparison of the leagues- just because players are technically on par doesn't make the league on par, because the EPL consists of more teams, more competitions, more games, more global exposure, greater pressure from the press, more passionate fans, bigger prize money, bigger salaries, more endorsement opportunities etc............................so there are many factors that set the leagues apart other than the technical ability of the players (which Lalas is speaking more directly too)....but I eh go dis Toppa for drawing the deduction that she did....Lalas was taking a jab at the EPL, and in some form or the other comparing it to the MLS.....

Real Madrid fans  ::)

kix  :beermug:
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Jah Gol on June 20, 2007, 05:55:26 AM
The commentators during T&T game vs USA, one of them (Caliguiri I believe) said that not even the Mexicans in the Mexican league is playing at a high standard; that the MLS was better then the Mexican League. I could not understand how he come up with that, but now here is another "great" American saying that the EPL is inferior.


Look at the standings. The supposedly best team is just that supposedly.
http://web.mlsnet.com/standings/index.jsp

http://web.mlsnet.com/stats/index.jsp


All this amount to is nothing.
If Caliguiri really said that he is backside. The MLS players are probably physically stronger and could possibly give you a better sprint but in terms of tactics and technique it's no comparison. In Mexican football defenders know how to move the ball out of defense better. The average level of ball control they have is remarkable. And front the strikers have much higher skill level and are better finishers. Their solution in a tight situation is thought and not always speed. It's not the first time I've said this but the Mexican league from what I've seen is only behind Brazil and Argentina in terms on this side of the world. If they were able to attract high quality South African and African players the league would improve even more.

As a spectacle is superior to the MLS by far.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 20, 2007, 07:17:11 AM


hard luck boy Bakes....laawwd yuh quick on the draw...I was just expanding on meh point, (prematurely hit "send")...and yuh hit meh b4 ah could modify.....hear meh out again- above... :beermug:
lol...ah juss doing ah quick run thru before ah breeze out...


If they cyah stick long enuf to prove theyself what that tell yuh 8)

Point taken...IMHO though for a country that only got its act together (football-wise) in the last decade and a half, their players have done their cause no major harm in England (and Europe in general)- Now if yuh want to talk about players who traditionally (long enough to call a trend) struggle badly outside of their home------ Mexico !!!!!!!!!!!!




Total agreement...the Yanks have improved by leaps and bounds.  By my own unofficial count there were approximately 13 US players on EPL rosters this past season...pretty decent haul in my mind.

The Mexicans...agreed as well and don't even know what the reason for that might be.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 20, 2007, 07:22:36 AM


I stand by the notion that the majority of fuss on this thread is about Trinis fighting down the U.S./MLS & at the same time worshipping the EPL.....if Rafa Benitez came out and said that there are a handful of PFL players that could walk on to Liverpool and not miss a beat, we woulda quote it as the gospel, even though the absurdity of such a statement is exponentially greater than anything that Lalas said....plain talk eh no bad manners....
I agree that far too often people on this board love to jump on the anti-US bandwagon...but in this regard I think the opinions about the perceived comparison are on point.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 20, 2007, 07:28:31 AM


thanks bake n' shark - that's exactly what i meant.

Forgive me if I am putting words in your mouth but i dont think that is what you meant to say at all, just that BnS put a good spin on it so you like that.

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Alexi Lalas, the president of LA Galaxy and the man responsible for taking David Beckham to Major League Soccer in the United States next month, has suggested that the Premiership is an "inferior product" whose global success is largely down to American marketing techniques.
"There's no accounting for bad taste," Lalas said in an exclusive interview with the Guardian. "That a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business. English football now has the haves and the have-nots. It's just that the Premiership have become so skilled in presentation. They took a page out of American football and so now they have Saturday Showdowns and Super Sundays. I love it. This is high-calibre marketing - taking an inferior product and improving it through packaging."

yuh see all them bolded lines, is the football the man talking about, the so called quality of the EPL as a marketable entity is the quality of its football.
I put no particular 'spin' on it...the comment is there for all with understanding to see. The fact that you can't decipher the message in the statement is not itself an indictment of the statement.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: ribbit on June 20, 2007, 08:49:57 AM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".

 ??? ???
I think he means that Lalas isn't so much criticizing the quality of the EPL game, but moreso the quality of the EPL as a marketable entity.

Six on one hand...half dozen on the other if you ask me though. The EPL is in great financial shape...so obviously they're doing a bang up job with marketing to sponsors and fans.

thanks bake n' shark - that's exactly what i meant.

Forgive me if I am putting words in your mouth but i dont think that is what you meant to say at all, just that BnS put a good spin on it so you like that.

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Alexi Lalas, the president of LA Galaxy and the man responsible for taking David Beckham to Major League Soccer in the United States next month, has suggested that the Premiership is an "inferior product" whose global success is largely down to American marketing techniques.
"There's no accounting for bad taste," Lalas said in an exclusive interview with the Guardian. "That a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business. English football now has the haves and the have-nots. It's just that the Premiership have become so skilled in presentation. They took a page out of American football and so now they have Saturday Showdowns and Super Sundays. I love it. This is high-calibre marketing - taking an inferior product and improving it through packaging."

yuh see all them bolded lines, is the football the man talking about, the so called quality of the EPL as a marketable entity is the quality of its football.

mc, yes you are putting words in my mouth and you are not forgiven. i meant it as i said it.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 20, 2007, 09:30:13 AM
lalas is approaching this from a business point of view not a footballing point of view. the word "inferior" preceeded the word "product".

 ??? ???
I think he means that Lalas isn't so much criticizing the quality of the EPL game, but moreso the quality of the EPL as a marketable entity.

Six on one hand...half dozen on the other if you ask me though. The EPL is in great financial shape...so obviously they're doing a bang up job with marketing to sponsors and fans.

thanks bake n' shark - that's exactly what i meant.

Forgive me if I am putting words in your mouth but i dont think that is what you meant to say at all, just that BnS put a good spin on it so you like that.

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Alexi Lalas, the president of LA Galaxy and the man responsible for taking David Beckham to Major League Soccer in the United States next month, has suggested that the Premiership is an "inferior product" whose global success is largely down to American marketing techniques.
"There's no accounting for bad taste," Lalas said in an exclusive interview with the Guardian. "That a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business. English football now has the haves and the have-nots. It's just that the Premiership have become so skilled in presentation. They took a page out of American football and so now they have Saturday Showdowns and Super Sundays. I love it. This is high-calibre marketing - taking an inferior product and improving it through packaging."

yuh see all them bolded lines, is the football the man talking about, the so called quality of the EPL as a marketable entity is the quality of its football.

mc, yes you are putting words in my mouth and you are not forgiven. i meant it as i said it.

You mean you meant it as Bake n Shark said it.

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put no particular 'spin' on it...the comment is there for all with understanding to see.  The fact that you can't decipher the message in the statement is not itself an indictment of the statement.

My initial response of  ??? was less about me not understanding the statement and more about me not agreeing with what was being said.
and you are wrong, the fact that I, cant 'decipher' the message in the statement says alot about the statement. 

Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 20, 2007, 09:58:28 AM

My initial response of ??? was less about me not understanding the statement and more about me not agreeing with what was being said.
and you are wrong, the fact that I, cant 'decipher' the message in the statement says alot about the statement.



That's how you express disagreement...with a sign of confusion/puzzlement??


De subtle approach ent work so I might as well be blunt...you just damn dotish.
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Mr Mc on June 20, 2007, 10:05:41 AM

My initial response of ??? was less about me not understanding the statement and more about me not agreeing with what was being said.
and you are wrong, the fact that I, cant 'decipher' the message in the statement says alot about the statement.



That's how you express disagreement...with a sign of confusion/puzzlement??


De subtle approach ent work so I might as well be blunt...you just damn dotish.

daiz yuh big response...stueeps!
Boo!
Title: Re: Premiership (EPL) inferior, says Lalas (MUST READ You're sure to laugh.)
Post by: Bakes on June 20, 2007, 11:06:45 AM


daiz yuh big response...stueeps!
Boo!

^^^^^ in search of a daddy
Title: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 12, 2010, 12:04:33 PM
Mods if there's already another feel free to merge.   Fixtures... game discussions... highlights... scores.

The new season kicks off with great news for fans here in the US (and Canada, but they doh really count  :D ) as FOX has finally kicked off it's HD broadcasts in full with the launch of the FSC HD channel (619 on DirecTV as of August 11, 2010) to compliment their regular FSC Channel and new Fox Sports Premium (FSP) Channel.

In addition, ESPN has officially confirmed that they have reached an agreement with Fox Sports International to license a number of Premier League games on US television and multimedia for the next three seasons (2010-11 through 2012-13). This three-year sublicense includes up to 74 live matches each season on ESPN2, ESPN Deportes, ESPN3.com and ESPN Mobile TV.

Both of these developments come as great news to North American fans of the beautiful game, and along with GolTV launch this summer of their own HD broadcasts of La Liga and Serie A games, this promises to be and exciting season for fans watching at home or on the net.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 12, 2010, 12:29:14 PM
This week's TV schedule:


Saturday, August 14th


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif) Aston Villa vs. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7a/f3/0,,12306~3339130,00.gif) West Ham United at 10 am

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif) Chelsea vs. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/77/92/0,,12306~8819319,00.gif) West Bromwich Albion at 12:30 pm

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/67/f3/0,,12306~3339111,00.gif) Bolton Wanderers vs. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6c/f3/0,,12306~3339116,00.gif) Fulham at 2:30 pm




Sunday, August 15th


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif) Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif) Arsenal at 11 am
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: truetrini on August 12, 2010, 12:34:18 PM
nice...thanks
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 12, 2010, 12:48:30 PM
nice...thanks

 :beermug:


Forgot to mention that all the games above are on FSC... ESPN hasn't rolled out their TV schedule yet, but games can be streamed online at ESPN3.com beginning on Saturday with:


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/79/f3/0,,12306~3339129,00.gif) Tottenham Hotspurs vs. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif) Manchester City at 7:30 am
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Post by: Andre on August 12, 2010, 01:44:42 PM
espn august tv schedule release.

games on espn3.com so we could check them from work if we dare.

http://footballfashion.org/wordpress/2010/08/12/espn-english-premier-league-u-s-august-2010-broadcast-schedule/

Date   Time (ET)   Network   Fixture
Sat., Aug. 14   7:30 a.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Tottenham Hotspur vs. Manchester City
Mon., Aug. 16   3 p.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Manchester United vs. Newcastle United
Sat., Aug. 21   10 a.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Arsenal vs. Blackpool
Mon., Aug. 23   3 p.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Manchester City vs. Liverpool
Sat., Aug. 28   7:30 a.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Blackburn vs. Arsenal
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 12, 2010, 02:01:19 PM
espn august tv schedule release.

games on espn3.com so we could check them from work if we dare.

http://footballfashion.org/wordpress/2010/08/12/espn-english-premier-league-u-s-august-2010-broadcast-schedule/

Date   Time (ET)   Network   Fixture
Sat., Aug. 14   7:30 a.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Tottenham Hotspur vs. Manchester CityMon., Aug. 16   3 p.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Manchester United vs. Newcastle United
Sat., Aug. 21   10 a.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Arsenal vs. Blackpool
Mon., Aug. 23   3 p.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Manchester City vs. Liverpool
Sat., Aug. 28   7:30 a.m.   ESPN2/ESPN3.com/ ESPN Deportes/ESPN Mobile TV   Blackburn vs. Arsenal

Nice... ah thought I heard them say last night the game woulda be on ESPN2 as well, but when I checked the site today I didn't see it scheduled, only on ESPN3.com. 

Looks like it's shaping up to be yet another lazy football weekend  :beermug:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Sam on August 14, 2010, 06:06:29 AM
Man City have a big side, lets see how well they will do.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on August 14, 2010, 06:30:36 AM
Man City have a big side, lets see how well they will do.

They being peppered by Spurs. No attack for City.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on August 14, 2010, 06:36:09 AM
Spurs run them rugged in the first 30 min...City finally settled down and evened the game out...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: MEP on August 14, 2010, 06:52:28 AM
Bakes yuh sound like a PR man dey breds....bess yuh start throwin in some green verbs an yuh could be in line for a TTFF job :)
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: 2cents on August 14, 2010, 06:54:43 AM
Highly suprised Joe Hart get pick over Given...i rate Given top 5 in the world. Hart did pull off some great saves i must say, but wow...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 07:08:38 AM
Bakes yuh sound like a PR man dey breds....bess yuh start throwin in some green verbs an yuh could be in line for a TTFF job :)

Lol@ 'green verbs'... ent?


Heckuva start to the season though... Spurs played absolutely out of their minds in the first half.  Gareth Bale was giving Micah Richards and everybody else who tried to cover him fits.  Assou-Ekotto was doing everything else on that left side for Spurs... tracking back, winning balls, starting the attack.  He made some nice distributive passes in the first half.  Even fatboy Tom look like he slim down some, or toned up instead.

All that said and they have nutten to show for it, in part due to excellent keeping from Hart, in part just from pure hard luck. Everywhere this man has been he's been an incredible shot-stopper, not sure what's been holding him back from becoming a Number One.  City still in it though and come back out with a purpose in the second... could only imagine what this team will look like now that Balotelli finally signed his contract with them.

Kompany and DeJong have to be the most rugged tandem in the EPL boy... everything is a hard kick or ah shoulder pong off de ball.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 07:24:42 AM
'arry bringing out the big guns for the second half...

Pavlyuchenko on for Defoe

Keane replaces Crouch

Gio on for Aaron Lennon

... let's see if any of that will make a difference for Spurs.

Adam Johnson replaced Wright-Phillips for City and had a 5-minute burst of activity but he's kinda disappeared the last 10 mins or so.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: MEP on August 14, 2010, 07:31:32 AM
City is ah lucky team don't know how Spurs eh score yet....I can't see all those big names for City sitting on the bench and being happy...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on August 14, 2010, 07:35:17 AM
Spurs can't buy a goal today...

They are good side on the run- They look as good as any team in England (I imagine) going forward....not sure if they have the defensive depth to win titles though

Glad to see Dos Santos back in the top flight. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on August 14, 2010, 07:36:52 AM

Kompany and DeJong have to be the most rugged tandem in the EPL boy... everything is a hard kick or ah shoulder pong off de ball.

Yeah dem two red men eh business at all...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 07:43:49 AM
Have to be a disappointing draw for Spurs... Bale showed that his right foot juss dey tuh help keep him upright.  To be fair he was Spurs most dangerous player today and should have been awarded a first half penalty when Richards shoved him in the box.  EPL refs really need to clean up the English game because it becomes an absolute liability to the national squad in international play... and perhaps more importantly, for all EPL players, it really affects their ability to stay healthy over the 9-month English season.

City lucky... did well... to escape with a point, they didn't really play any kind of inspired ball and the only man really earning he keep today was Hart, with high honorable mention to DeJong and Kompany in that order.  David Silva was an absolute waste in my opinion... and MEP I agree, how the hell Mancini supposed to keep all dem men happy?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: mukumsplau on August 14, 2010, 08:01:22 AM
i hope scotty get ah run an buss like 2 goals...i relly wanna see him in prem dis year
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dinho on August 14, 2010, 08:14:57 AM
Hart is a beast.. Shoulda been starting in South Africa.

Kolarov and Silva... Welcome to the EPL with all them hard tackle and jam allyuh collect today.

This Man City side will take some time to get up to speed as most of their players don't have enough EPL pedigree. Spurs looking good though and playing with pace and invention.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 08:19:42 AM
Meanwhile, when did Avram Grant morph into an EPL manager??  De man get ah bligh at Chelsea and all ah sudden he part of the old boys club.  I somehow missed him replacing Zola at West Ham at the end of the season.  I liked Zola's brand of attacking football, but apparently the higher ups didn't and decided tuh take a flyer on Grant... who in all fairness had Portsmouth playing good ball right up thru relegation.

As for today's game... West Ham looking lost up at Villa Park, Villa playing all over them and not surprisingly have the early lead thanks to Stuart Downing, and shaky keeping by Robert Green.  Dis man go soon be known as Calamity Bob for some of his gaffes... this one maybe not that glaring though.

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EDIT:  As I say that off course he pulls off a superb save off Ashley Young's lob attempt.

He keeping we on we toes, apparently.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 14, 2010, 08:44:13 AM
Blackpool beating the hell out of Wigan.

3-0 in the 43rd
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 08:49:34 AM
Blackpool beating the hell out of Wigan.

3-0 in the 43rd

Damn... you serious??

wth



Meanwhile not much going on in the Claret and Blue derby... a Stilian Petrov header has Villa up 2-0 on a hapless and clueless West Ham side.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 14, 2010, 08:53:20 AM
Blackpool beating the hell out of Wigan.

3-0 in the 43rd

Damn... you serious??

Nah, I joking. they ent beating them down, they beating them up!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: nunu on August 14, 2010, 08:55:24 AM
stoke city fc in di relegation zone already lol ! dem will lucky fi finish 17th , ah bouy !  :frustrated:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 09:03:21 AM
stoke city fc in di relegation zone already lol ! dem will lucky fi finish 17th , ah bouy !  :frustrated:

In now checking de scenes in dah one... Wolves are decent defensive squad though.  Hard luck injury for KJ.  How allyuh boy Fuller doing so far?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: nunu on August 14, 2010, 09:21:03 AM
stoke city fc in di relegation zone already lol ! dem will lucky fi finish 17th , ah bouy !  :frustrated:

In now checking de scenes in dah one... Wolves are decent defensive squad though.  Hard luck injury for KJ.  How allyuh boy Fuller doing so far?

we need to give fuller more ratings , if it was'nt for fuller strong performance maybe tp would'nt
look at kj , I try not to give an opinion on kj because to me he has two left foot .
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 14, 2010, 09:35:54 AM
4-0 Blackpool

Top of the table!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: PantherX on August 14, 2010, 09:46:55 AM
 Martinez will be lucky to have a job by Christmas.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: triniairman on August 14, 2010, 10:07:21 AM
Martinez will be lucky to have a job by Christmas.
I was just telling meh cousin that he would be the first manager to get the axe this season.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: chelsealife on August 14, 2010, 10:12:27 AM
Martinez will be lucky to have a job by Christmas.
I was just telling meh cousin that he would be the first manager to get the axe this season.
Wigan will be relegated by Christmas. If Marlon Harewood could get two goals against Wigan then something seriously wrong.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on August 14, 2010, 10:13:31 AM
Have to be a disappointing draw for Spurs... Bale showed that his right foot juss dey tuh help keep him upright.  To be fair he was Spurs most dangerous player today and should have been awarded a first half penalty when Richards shoved him in the box.  EPL refs really need to clean up the English game because it becomes an absolute liability to the national squad in international play... and perhaps more importantly, for all EPL players, it really affects their ability to stay healthy over the 9-month English season.

City lucky... did well... to escape with a point, they didn't really play any kind of inspired ball and the only man really earning he keep today was Hart, with high honorable mention to DeJong and Kompany in that order.  David Silva was an absolute waste in my opinion... and MEP I agree, how the hell Mancini supposed to keep all dem men happy?

Huddlestone was MOM in my opinion...amazing technique and distribution. 

Hart MOM for City. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 14, 2010, 11:55:21 AM
Huddlestone was MOM in my opinion...amazing technique and distribution. 

Hart MOM for City. 

Maybe I was too transfixed by all the activity along the left side... but I didn't see Huddlestone having much of a role in the game, and I'm a huge fan too  :-\.




Meanwhile... Chelsea raping WBA 4-0 Malouda, Drogba with a brace and Lampard.

Yossi on in his debut... yuck.


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EDIT: 5-0 Chelsea

Drogba with the hat trick.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 15, 2010, 09:15:40 AM
Liverpool vs. Arsenal live on FSC right now, in glorious HD of course, lol.


0-0 after 10'.  Very entertaining game even though neither team has teally settled down yet.  The new Liverpool players look good so far, especially Jovanovic.  The ugly "Standard Chartered" across the front of the Liverpool strip actually starting to grow on mih.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on August 15, 2010, 09:51:43 AM
red card for joe cole
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 15, 2010, 09:53:43 AM
Final minute drama... Martin Atkinson shows Joe Cole a harsh red after letting all kinda wildness go in the first half.  It was a rash tackle by Cole, probably deserving of a yellow and not a straight red, but either way, not the way that Hodgson would have wanted to start the season, down a man to a top-class opponent with a whole half still to be played.  Even worse for Cole, it an ignominous start to his Anfield tenure as not only the team penalized by having to play a man down... but he faces an immediate 3-match ban to start the season.

As a Liverpool fan I can't complain too much, but still think the straight red was harsh.

Still scoreless at the half.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Touches on August 15, 2010, 09:59:12 AM
Bakes,

Yuh see d rip diaby hit a man tru he leg...and eboue rip on the line.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 15, 2010, 10:16:31 AM
Bakes,

Yuh see d rip diaby hit a man tru he leg...and eboue rip on the line.



First half?  Nah ah miss it.  Eboue looking real nice fuh allyuh doh, not really threatening, but good skill and composure in possession.

Ah also miss the goal... decide to use the break to go take a quick shower after the gym this morning, come back and Liverpool up 1-0 in the 53'

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Just saw the goal, Arsenal disposessed in their own third after trying to make one too many passes rather than clearing.  Ngog picked it up and beat Almunia short-side top corner... almost Landon Donovan-esque, I hate to say.


Touches, how yuh like dat breed Kuyt rest on Clichy? lol
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Touches on August 15, 2010, 10:33:46 AM
it was stink>>>plus he hit him a cyap before
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 15, 2010, 10:43:51 AM
Liverpool down to 9 men for now... Agger looks like he suffered a concussion.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 15, 2010, 10:52:12 AM
Liverpool scrambling for the final few minutes... Agger in a mess.  Liverpool send him back in, but he actually just taking up space on the field... they have Maxi playing left back.  Arsenal threatening with every possession.  First Reina had to make an incredible fingertip save off a nice play by Rosicky.

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As I type Arsenal equalized.... own goal off Reina.  Hard luck play... he fumbled it into the goal but his momentum going back into goal made him think more about the play that he probably should have.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: rotatopoti3 on August 15, 2010, 11:01:42 AM
i goe settle for d 1-1 draw...Liverpool show alot of character today.... :applause:

keep it up fellas...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Ngozi on August 15, 2010, 11:26:25 AM
Phew Arsenal came back and grabbed the draw not less than they deserved ... despite having better possession offensively they didn't assert themselves enough.
Despite the goal conceded I felt they looked solid defensively although Clichy get "seductively abused"  on a few.
Diaby continues to boggle the mind ... nice touches then gives away the ball with his next pass almost methodically.
Rosicky came on and did some nice things always liked him as a player glad he is finally fit.

Walcott ... walcott, walcott lol one of these days his game will come in sync with his speed and on that fateful day it will be hell to pay against him ....Arsene will bring him along well.

The new defender Koschelsky .. (couldn't spell it)  ... I thought he looked good he was unlucky to be sent off I felt that handball was more accidental more a reflex and it end up hitting his hand but the truth be told I always measure defenders in this league when they had a dose of Drogba in they ass for 90 mins or Rooney before I grade em..... can't rate him against a half fit Torres ... inconclusive.

Nasri looked sharp!

Almunia maintains his crappy disdain for cross balls and goalkeeping in general .... hope they get Shwarzer


Lots of optimism especially since this was definitely not Arsenal's strongest team ... with the exception of Torres this Liverpool team won't get much stronger but they're battling ...pleased to see that kinda spirit.
Arsenal  still have Fabregas, RVP, Song to start and although I'm saying this tentatively I feel they will get the Fulham keeper  Shwarzer and alsooooo I feel Clichy could end up losing his place to Gibbs.

That's it in a nutshell por ahora!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 15, 2010, 05:28:10 PM
Game Week 1 closes with League runners-up (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/72/f3/0,,12306~3339122,00.gif) Manchester United welcoming newly-promoted (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/76/92/0,,12306~8819318,00.gif)New Castle United back to the top-flight.

The game kicks off tomorrow (Monday, August 16th) at 3 pm ESTon ESPN2.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Midknight on August 15, 2010, 07:45:21 PM
anyone know why Fabregas miss the match  ???
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 15, 2010, 08:11:30 PM
anyone know why Fabregas miss the match  ???

Supposedly lacking match-fitness.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Ngozi on August 15, 2010, 08:24:32 PM
Fabregas had a chest infection as well.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on August 15, 2010, 10:18:37 PM
Liverpool's kit look like it made from polyester! Arshavin already declared him self unfit and hurt before the season started.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Marcos on August 16, 2010, 09:28:19 AM
David Silva was an absolute waste in my opinion...

Nah boy. He was one of the hardest workers on the field and he run non-stop. He just seemed to be on a diff wavelength from everybody else.
I still eh know what shape Mancini was using. The team could benefit from a little bit more structure
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 16, 2010, 03:55:12 PM
Chris Hughton will have a very hard time getting positive results out of this New Castle squad... they were totally outclassed by ManU today.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 11:43:48 AM
Chris Hughton will have a very hard time getting positive results out of this New Castle squad... they were totally outclassed by ManU today.

I say that and they rebound nicely with a shocking 6-0 romp over top 4 aspirants, Villa.


Today- ESPN2 at 3pm

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif) Liverpool takes on high-flying (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif) Manchester City in a key early match for both clubs.

James Milner is likely to make his debut for City, and new boy Mario Balotelli is likely to feature prominently as well.

For Liverpool, Joe Cole begins his three-match ban for picking up a red last week versus Arsenal, while Christian Poulsen will be pushing for his debut.  Daniel Agger (concussion) is also unlikely to feature, though he has not been ruled out, and Javier Mascherano (calf) is also questionable.  Fernando Torres and a rested Steven Gerrard are likely to take the field for the Reds however.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 01:20:23 PM
Barry from Milner, 1-0 City in the 13'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on August 23, 2010, 01:33:46 PM
city looking good
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dinho on August 23, 2010, 01:35:54 PM
city looking good

the smallie sitting down in the stands next to balotelli too..
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on August 23, 2010, 01:41:49 PM
city looking good

the smallie sitting down in the stands next to balotelli too..

 :devil: ent
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 01:52:15 PM
Very poor, uninspired play by Liverpool in the first half... lucky to be only down 1-0.  Not because City has threatened but more because Liverpool just hasn't shown up.  Torres looks a shell of himself, Gerrard is playing too deep to make a difference, I'm sure covering for the missing Javier Mascherano ("not in the right frame of mind" to play says Hodgson, read into that what you will).  Ngog hasn't done anything, nor has Jovanovic... but singling any one player out will be misleading since the entire squad has been poor.

Meanwhile on defense they giving City all kinda space... Adam Johnson in particular, good player, but he's always going to cut inside on his left foot.  If he surprises you and takes the flank on his weaker right then so be it.  Nobody seems to have figured him out yet.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 02:18:33 PM
2-0 City... Micah Richards in the 53'... even though Tevez trying to claim the goal.  Unassertive keeping by Reina.


Meanwhile Joe Hart just push Given further down on the bench... three terrific close up saves against Kuyt, Gerrard and then Torres in rapid succession.


EDIT:

3-0 Tevez with a 68' minute penalty after Adam Johnson sold a penalty dive on the witless and absolutely inept Phil Dowd.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on August 23, 2010, 02:29:46 PM
3-0
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 23, 2010, 02:34:02 PM
Whey sah! Torres had Richards breakdancing yes.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 03:00:43 PM
Whey sah! Torres had Richards breakdancing yes.  :rotfl:

...about the only highlight in the game coming from Liverpool.  They might as well have saved the match fees and juss send the kit man and ballboys to play City today.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on August 23, 2010, 09:03:16 PM
Citeh will continue to pull stones wit all dem  overrated Englishmen gettin run! Johnson, Barry, Milner, Richards. Lescott. Only Hart decent. If Ballotelli and he ugly arse could pull dat well yuh know is not about the looks!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Midknight on August 23, 2010, 10:03:32 PM
Citeh will continue to pull stones wit all dem  overrated Englishmen gettin run! Johnson, Barry, Milner, Richards. Lescott. Only Hart decent. If Ballotelli and he ugly arse could pull dat well yuh know is not about the looks!

all of a sudden having englishmen in a english side is a crime...
lol
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Midknight on August 23, 2010, 10:05:16 PM
2-0 City... Micah Richards in the 53'... even though Tevez trying to claim the goal.  Unassertive keeping by Reina.


Meanwhile Joe Hart just push Given further down on the bench... three terrific close up saves against Kuyt, Gerrard and then Torres in rapid succession.


EDIT:

3-0 Tevez with a 68' minute penalty after Adam Johnson sold a penalty dive on the witless and absolutely inept Phil Dowd.

He was already off balance after riding the first tackle and the second liverpool defender cleared his leg out from under him. Not saying Dowd is the best referee in the Prem, but straightforward penalty for me.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 10:51:19 PM
2-0 City... Micah Richards in the 53'... even though Tevez trying to claim the goal.  Unassertive keeping by Reina.


Meanwhile Joe Hart just push Given further down on the bench... three terrific close up saves against Kuyt, Gerrard and then Torres in rapid succession.


EDIT:

3-0 Tevez with a 68' minute penalty after Adam Johnson sold a penalty dive on the witless and absolutely inept Phil Dowd.

He was already off balance after riding the first tackle and the second liverpool defender cleared his leg out from under him. Not saying Dowd is the best referee in the Prem, but straightforward penalty for me.

If you watch again as Skrtel challenged, Johnson dragged both feet to initiate the contact with skrtel's right foot.  Not saying that he had an obligation to hurdle him (which would not have been difficult), but he definitely took advantage of the opportunity to win a penalty for his club... aka he sold the dive well.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dinho on August 24, 2010, 08:06:26 AM
Lol, that was a stonewall penalty.. You have to be the only man arguing that.

In a play like that is who get the first toe to the ball win.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 24, 2010, 08:24:03 AM
Lol, that was a stonewall penalty.. You have to be the only man arguing that.

In a play like that is who get the first toe to the ball win.

I must be "the only man arguing" what? 

Do you see me arguing that it was not a penalty? My only contention is that it was a dive, which is to say the contact isn't what made him go down, but rather that he initiated contact and dove.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: spideybuff on August 24, 2010, 08:33:31 AM
Chris Hughton will have a very hard time getting positive results out of this New Castle squad... they were totally outclassed by ManU today.

U act like ManU at Old Trafford is an easy game for any side in the world. Only Chelsea, Barca, Real and Inter will probably not get outclassed there. Every other side in the world will have to be at their best and still hope
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on August 24, 2010, 01:22:29 PM
Citeh will continue to pull stones wit all dem  overrated Englishmen gettin run! Johnson, Barry, Milner, Richards. Lescott. Only Hart decent. If Ballotelli and he ugly arse could pull dat well yuh know is not about the looks!

all of a sudden having englishmen in a english side is a crime...
lol

All of a sudden for whom?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on August 28, 2010, 09:54:13 AM
Incredible game between Wigan and Spurs... Wigan just went ahead 1-0 in the 81', but really should have scored two more goals.  In the 11' Gohouri received a nodded down ball in the box and took it on the half volley, hitting the underside of the bar and out.  Really unfortunate not to score from essentially point blank on what would have been a difficult, yet superb strike.

Then in the latter stages of the game Rodallega served up Alcaraz on a platter... and STUNNINGLY de man miss from point blank range with Cudicini and the Spurs defense completely at sea.  Literally seconds later Rodallega from the right side again set the table on a sweet cross to Gomez I think it was.  It would have been a tough finish under any circumstances, but Gomez to his credit stretched every inch of his frame to put a left footed touch on the ball towards goal.  He just couldn't keep it down.

Literally seconds after that... at this point 45 seconds to a minute after Alcaraz throw' way, Wigan had a third bite of the apple, this time Rodellaga decide to dispense with passing to the shithongs in the box, lol... and kept it for himself, placing a low shot from the right side, across the face of the defense and into the far left side netting.  Cudicini should have saved it though (no doubt Gomes starting next week), allowing it to slip under his hand.

Al-Habsi (never even heard of him before) pull off a stunning set of saves to help preserve the clean sheet. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Midknight on August 28, 2010, 10:11:27 AM
Citeh will continue to pull stones wit all dem  overrated Englishmen gettin run! Johnson, Barry, Milner, Richards. Lescott. Only Hart decent. If Ballotelli and he ugly arse could pull dat well yuh know is not about the looks!

all of a sudden having englishmen in a english side is a crime...
lol

All of a sudden for whom?

nah...i just remember when many people used to be on Wenger case for his Francenal policy....doh mind me
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on August 29, 2010, 07:10:40 PM
It doesn't look like Silva will be eatin a lot of bench this seasont; mancini favors defensive football  and will chose a midfield to suit.
 
I don't think Hughes is a Dempsey fan and he may be gettin subbed a lot.

Howard's gaffe appeared to set the table for Everton.

I could have told Lord Wrigley that Nani likes the right side and Valencia can only play on the right side. And we still don't have a natural left winger besides Giggsy.

Arsenal will once again fade tuh black due to injuries to their brittle little men.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on August 30, 2010, 08:32:54 AM
I see Jussi went mad and hit Johnson from Birmingham a slap.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Q-Toa3USgyw
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Andre on August 30, 2010, 12:51:07 PM
must see video. harry rednapp cuss up journalists.

http://www.youtube.com/v/xJBsI7RAuvk
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 17, 2010, 10:29:19 AM
(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/73/92/0,,12306~8819315,00.gif) Blackpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif) Manchester City on FSC right now... 0-0 in the 64'. 

Blackpool playing terrific football so far, seeing them for the first time it is understandable why they've achieved the results they have, the 4 goals at Chelsea notwithstanding.  They've conceded the most away goals in the EPL (15 from what the commentators state), but at home they are terrific.  Hardly a note from City and its bloated payroll.


Lol... and as I type, Tevez with a neat touch to put City up 1-0, TOTALLY against the run of play.


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EDIT:  Turn mih back for 5 mins and two more goal score.  Blackpool equalized (don't know the goalscorer) and then Tevez on the spot again to put City back up.

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2-1 City in the 83'

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3-2 City is the final.  Tevez (69', 84'), Silva (90') for City

Harewood (83'), Taylor-Fletcher (90') for Blackpool
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on October 17, 2010, 05:53:03 PM
Why did neither Toure make the team sheet for Man Shitty today?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on October 30, 2010, 12:24:07 PM
Like the Man United thread deleted.


Tell me the refs don't cheat for Man United. Blatant, blatant, the ref tell the lines mans to put he flag down is ah goal. Nani dive first off, and then sit down and holding the ball with he hand. There is no way the ref and the lines man could have missed it.

Cheats, thats the only way Man United winning. So much for the respect of the game from Fergusson. That is blatant cheating.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dinho on October 30, 2010, 12:27:48 PM
Like the Man United thread deleted.


Tell me the refs don't cheat for Man United. Blatant, blatant, the ref tell the lines mans to put he flag down is ah goal. Nani dive first off, and then sit down and holding the ball with he hand. There is no way the ref and the lines man could have missed it.

Cheats, thats the only way Man United winning. So much for the respect of the game from Fergusson. That is blatant cheating.

Blatant as it comes.

The linesman raise his flag. The ref was supposed to call back the play for the hands. He missed it but the linesman raised his flag to call for it and the ref overruled. Utter madness.

I could understand if the lines had not called for it and the ref decided to play advantage and no whistle blow but that is not what happened.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 30, 2010, 12:53:23 PM
Like the Man United thread deleted.


Tell me the refs don't cheat for Man United. Blatant, blatant, the ref tell the lines mans to put he flag down is ah goal. Nani dive first off, and then sit down and holding the ball with he hand. There is no way the ref and the lines man could have missed it.

Cheats, thats the only way Man United winning. So much for the respect of the game from Fergusson. That is blatant cheating.

Blatant as it comes.

The linesman raise his flag. The ref was supposed to call back the play for the hands. He missed it but the linesman raised his flag to call for it and the ref overruled. Utter madness.

I could understand if the lines had not called for it and the ref decided to play advantage and no whistle blow but that is not what happened.



BOTH OF ALLYUH COULD TAKE A BIG f**k YOU


Firstly Nani was fouled...should have been a penalty...He handled the ball to stop play thinking he had won a penalty, looked up realised he didnt get it and lay on the floor...Gomes saw him handle the ball and picked up the ball then dropped it a few yards where the handled ball happened... The lino and the ref NEVER raised a flag or blew a whistle indicating a hand ball... Gomes drop the ball while play was ongoing..Nani quickly scored

GOMES is a c**t...The Referee and Linesman did shit... Nani score

BOOM f**kING BANG

Besides that made it 2-0... we would have still won

f**k BOTH OF YOU..Study your own side... lucky to win at Blackburn today... allyuh pay the ref too?  ::) ::) do you realise how stupid yall sound when you say shit like we paying refs and they blatantly cheating for us... f**kING SHITHONGS

allyuh 5 points ahead and so scared of us??  you see me crying everytime Chelsea get a shit goal and win? 

you better be scared..cuz we f**king coming
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dinho on October 30, 2010, 12:58:08 PM
small man, check yuhself with that language it is not necessary.

i will only say that once.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 30, 2010, 01:11:40 PM
small man, check yuhself with that language it is not necessary.

i will only say that once.

check yourself with the shit you talking then....

I only saying that once

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 30, 2010, 01:59:31 PM
BOTH OF ALLYUH COULD TAKE A BIG f**k YOU


Firstly Nani was fouled...should have been a penalty...He handled the ball to stop play thinking he had won a penalty, looked up realised he didnt get it and lay on the floor...Gomes saw him handle the ball and picked up the ball then dropped it a few yards where the handled ball happened... The lino and the ref NEVER raised a flag or blew a whistle indicating a hand ball... Gomes drop the ball while play was ongoing..Nani quickly scored

GOMES is a c**t...The Referee and Linesman did shit... Nani score

BOOM f**kING BANG

Besides that made it 2-0... we would have still won

f**k BOTH OF YOU..Study your own side... lucky to win at Blackburn today... allyuh pay the ref too?  ::) ::) do you realise how stupid yall sound when you say shit like we paying refs and they blatantly cheating for us... f**kING SHITHONGS

allyuh 5 points ahead and so scared of us??  you see me crying everytime Chelsea get a shit goal and win? 

you better be scared..cuz we f**king coming


The linesman DID raise his flag... which is why Clattenburg went over to him.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on October 30, 2010, 02:13:55 PM
Like the Man United thread deleted.


Tell me the refs don't cheat for Man United. Blatant, blatant, the ref tell the lines mans to put he flag down is ah goal. Nani dive first off, and then sit down and holding the ball with he hand. There is no way the ref and the lines man could have missed it.

Cheats, thats the only way Man United winning. So much for the respect of the game from Fergusson. That is blatant cheating.

Blatant as it comes.

The linesman raise his flag. The ref was supposed to call back the play for the hands. He missed it but the linesman raised his flag to call for it and the ref overruled. Utter madness.

I could understand if the lines had not called for it and the ref decided to play advantage and no whistle blow but that is not what happened.



BOTH OF ALLYUH COULD TAKE A BIG f**k YOU


Firstly Nani was fouled...should have been a penalty...He handled the ball to stop play thinking he had won a penalty, looked up realised he didnt get it and lay on the floor...Gomes saw him handle the ball and picked up the ball then dropped it a few yards where the handled ball happened... The lino and the ref NEVER raised a flag or blew a whistle indicating a hand ball... Gomes drop the ball while play was ongoing..Nani quickly scored

GOMES is a c**t...The Referee and Linesman did shit... Nani score

BOOM f**kING BANG

Besides that made it 2-0... we would have still won

f**k BOTH OF YOU..Study your own side... lucky to win at Blackburn today... allyuh pay the ref too?  ::) ::) do you realise how stupid yall sound when you say shit like we paying refs and they blatantly cheating for us... f**kING SHITHONGS

allyuh 5 points ahead and so scared of us??  you see me crying everytime Chelsea get a shit goal and win? 

you better be scared..cuz we f**king coming


The lines man was in utter suprise when the ref told him that the goal stand. You could have seen it on the face of the lines face. Initially the lineman did not raise his flage because he and all was on the same page as the keeper and everyone else. That the hand ball was the call. When low-lifer Nani (who just tried to sell a dive) kick the ball into the net th elinesman immediately raise his flag. He then informed the ref what had transpired. From here what I would like to believe happen was that the ref told the lines that he did not blow his whistle. However, this is where discretion (something sorely lacking from Man United players and fans) comes in on the part of the ref. Once the lines man tell the ref that Nani handle the ball and that is was blatant then the ref should have said are you sure? Then proceed on the linesman decision. The advantage should have gone to the keeper.

To claim that Gomes is an idot is very disungenious and in very poor taste. The keeper knew Nani was behind him. Not all the time the ref blow to stop a game. It is understood in a situation like that that it is a free kick. If Nani had not stop the ball with his hand it was an easy pick up for the keeper or he could have let it out for a Goal kick. It amazes me that many of you can argue this. As been honest and within the fair play rules. Now Nani move smart and put the ref in a tough spot, but to say it was not cheating - I have to question y'all morals.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 30, 2010, 02:20:21 PM
BOTH OF ALLYUH COULD TAKE A BIG f**k YOU


Firstly Nani was fouled...should have been a penalty...He handled the ball to stop play thinking he had won a penalty, looked up realised he didnt get it and lay on the floor...Gomes saw him handle the ball and picked up the ball then dropped it a few yards where the handled ball happened... The lino and the ref NEVER raised a flag or blew a whistle indicating a hand ball... Gomes drop the ball while play was ongoing..Nani quickly scored

GOMES is a c**t...The Referee and Linesman did shit... Nani score

BOOM f**kING BANG

Besides that made it 2-0... we would have still won

f**k BOTH OF YOU..Study your own side... lucky to win at Blackburn today... allyuh pay the ref too?  ::) ::) do you realise how stupid yall sound when you say shit like we paying refs and they blatantly cheating for us... f**kING SHITHONGS

allyuh 5 points ahead and so scared of us??  you see me crying everytime Chelsea get a shit goal and win? 

you better be scared..cuz we f**king coming


The linesman DID raise his flag... which is why Clattenburg went over to him.

he raise his flag about 5 seconds into the celebration.... he only do that because 10 Spurs players raced towards him... too little too late... he didnt see the handball... He probably told Clatteburg what the Spurs players were saying

Only Gomes saw the hand ball
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on October 30, 2010, 02:25:55 PM
BOTH OF ALLYUH COULD TAKE A BIG f**k YOU


Firstly Nani was fouled...should have been a penalty...He handled the ball to stop play thinking he had won a penalty, looked up realised he didnt get it and lay on the floor...Gomes saw him handle the ball and picked up the ball then dropped it a few yards where the handled ball happened... The lino and the ref NEVER raised a flag or blew a whistle indicating a hand ball... Gomes drop the ball while play was ongoing..Nani quickly scored

GOMES is a c**t...The Referee and Linesman did shit... Nani score

BOOM f**kING BANG

Besides that made it 2-0... we would have still won

f**k BOTH OF YOU..Study your own side... lucky to win at Blackburn today... allyuh pay the ref too?  ::) ::) do you realise how stupid yall sound when you say shit like we paying refs and they blatantly cheating for us... f**kING SHITHONGS

allyuh 5 points ahead and so scared of us??  you see me crying everytime Chelsea get a shit goal and win? 

you better be scared..cuz we f**king coming


The linesman DID raise his flag... which is why Clattenburg went over to him.

he raise his flag about 5 seconds into the celebration.... he only do that because 10 Spurs players raced towards him... too little too late... he didnt see the handball... He probably told Clatteburg what the Spurs players were saying

Only Gomes saw the hand ball

everyone saw the hand ball except for Man United. I watched the game on Deportes and the commentator for once had no words. they were in total shock that the goal stood. They show the replay for 5 minutes after.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on October 31, 2010, 11:45:07 AM
Maximilliano Rodriquez finally break the deadlock in the 86'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 31, 2010, 12:13:10 PM
Maximilliano Rodriquez finally break the deadlock in the 86'

I just check the scores and see he score... I clean fuhget he on dat squad, dai'z how dreadful we've been.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on October 31, 2010, 01:16:33 PM
Maximilliano Rodriquez finally break the deadlock in the 86'

I just check the scores and see he score... I clean fuhget he on dat squad, dai'z how dreadful we've been.

The football itself not bad, is the deadliness in front the goal that lacking. Is like no one want to take the responsibility of scoring. Men just keep hand the ball to the next player in front the goal. No one stepping up and saying I will have a go consistently.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 06, 2010, 08:44:07 AM
Spurs and Bolton went at it.


Bolton 4 vs Tottenham 2  FT



Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 06, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
Spurs and Bolton went at it.


Bolton 4 vs Tottenham 2  FT





Good game... Bolton nearly throw it away in the end but they absolutely took Spurs to the woodshed.  Bale musta been tired b/c he eh make ah note all game.  Kevin Davies on the other hand for Bolton... 2 goals and an assist.

Pavyluchencko with an early goal of the year candidate.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on November 06, 2010, 09:57:44 AM
Spurs and Bolton went at it.


Bolton 4 vs Tottenham 2  FT




        Bale eh tired,Bolton was well prepared for him,he not going to have his way with every team.

Good game... Bolton nearly throw it away in the end but they absolutely took Spurs to the woodshed.  Bale musta been tired b/c he eh make ah note all game.  Kevin Davies on the other hand for Bolton... 2 goals and an assist.

Pavyluchencko with an early goal of the year candidate.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 06, 2010, 11:04:20 AM
        Bale eh tired,Bolton was well prepared for him,he not going to have his way with every team.

I was juss being facetious.  I forget what the Bolton RB name is, but for ever move Bale made down that side they had the Korean fella inside providing cover.  People want to skewer Rafa for leaving Maicon "exposed"... ah tort he was de best RB in de world?  All dat and he cyah mark ah no name Welshman?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: PantherX on November 06, 2010, 06:04:50 PM
Spurs and Bolton went at it.


Bolton 4 vs Tottenham 2  FT

I'm not surprised by this result at all.  I think Harry went to defensive at the beginning playing 2 defensive midfielders plus Krancjar on the right wing was out of his element so we lacked balance.  Our defense was incredibly poor today as well.

I felt that when we pulled it back to 3-2 we were going to get a point because they got nervy at that point but that stamp by Huddlestone incensed them and brought them right back at us.

Overall Bolton deserved the 3 points offside first goal notwithstanding.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on November 07, 2010, 09:27:30 AM
Newcastle poison Arsenal.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 07, 2010, 09:40:15 AM
Newcastle were class today...They didnt give Arsenal any room..played 2 lines of 4 and Ameobi and Carroll up with Carroll doing realllll work... he merit an England call up today

Great discipline from Newcastle..Concentration levels were well on

Wenger dont cry! haha
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 07, 2010, 10:49:54 AM
Fantastic Fernando

2-0 Liverpool at the half.....Chelsea look like a pub team
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 07, 2010, 10:53:31 AM
 :heehee: where alyuh Chelsea men now ?  :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 10:53:59 AM
Fantastic Fernando

2-0 Liverpool at the half.....Chelsea look like a pub team


Shhhh, come back in 55mins when dem chelski fans rell feelin it. Plus dey still have poison in the form of Drogba on the bench.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 10:55:28 AM
:heehee: where alyuh Chelsea men now ?  :devil:

Studyin United nah!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 07, 2010, 11:06:06 AM
Torres finally looking healthy.

I say ah running out to reach back in time fuh de game and get hold in some long talk... reach back just in time to see the second strike beore the half.  He make Ivanovic look normal, and Cech like ah backside.  Thanks to Ashley Cole for imitating ah midfield and coughing up de rock.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on November 07, 2010, 11:37:15 AM
Is dem two blight we get rid of.  We finally start to see we way.  And they look like they are getting accustomed to Hudgson's coaching style. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 11:42:09 AM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 07, 2010, 11:47:06 AM
Rena is kicks yes :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 07, 2010, 11:55:16 AM
where d chelsea men? ??? :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: rotatopoti3 on November 07, 2010, 12:02:11 PM
Best game of the season...up to 9th now boys....lets keep rolling

Lucas ah apologize.....yuh prove meh wrong today...boss game


Torres..what can I say.....yuh in ah different league.. top class finish
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 07, 2010, 12:12:26 PM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?

Yeah that's why he's a master of creating chances in tight spaces.


Tenor... I agree, I dunno what Roy plan was but it finally seems to be taking hold.  
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 07, 2010, 12:32:03 PM
We eh hiding like alyuh. I went to church, couldn't be bothered really. See I have faith in my team, don't have to hide during the game and then after 95 minutes  :devil: of playing come out and gloat.

We lose a game, we expect that to be big news as we are not accustomed to losing.

:beermug:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 12:32:58 PM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?

Yeah that's why he's a master of creating chances in tight spaces.


Tenor... I agree, I dunno what Roy plan was but it finally seems to be taking hold.  

In your dreams I am sure. The guy is good at shifting the ball to the side tuh create space but  his way tuh get by a defender is tuh push the ball past them and chase it. He is not good at beatsin a man or two by dribbling past or tru them.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: fari on November 07, 2010, 12:42:17 PM
vex arsenal lost but at least chelsea still within touching distance.   season shaping up nice, no team pulling away yet.

bolton vs spurs was a good game yesterday and all...davies play like a man posessed.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 07, 2010, 12:45:37 PM
We eh hiding like alyuh. I went to church, couldn't be bothered really. See I have faith in my team, don't have to hide during the game and then after 95 minutes  :devil: of playing come out and gloat.

We lose a game, we expect that to be big news as we are not accustomed to losing.

:beermug:

look how talk change  ::)
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 07, 2010, 01:02:48 PM
We eh hiding like alyuh. I went to church, couldn't be bothered really. See I have faith in my team, don't have to hide during the game and then after 95 minutes  :devil: of playing come out and gloat.

We lose a game, we expect that to be big news as we are not accustomed to losing.

:beermug:

look how talk change  ::)

What you mean talk change? I went to church. When I see the team we field I  was like whatever with that. A Chelsea lost is not a big deal to me I expect us to lose. I could take my talk, I eh see the game, but we get we arse buss.  :-*
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on November 07, 2010, 01:10:25 PM
We eh hiding like alyuh. I went to church, couldn't be bothered really. See I have faith in my team, don't have to hide during the game and then after 95 minutes  :devil: of playing come out and gloat.

We lose a game, we expect that to be big news as we are not accustomed to losing.

:beermug:

look how talk change  ::)

he does only stay away from church to watch utd  ;D
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 07, 2010, 01:13:23 PM
oh gord hhahahaha  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:  :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on November 07, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?

Yeah that's why he's a master of creating chances in tight spaces.


Tenor... I agree, I dunno what Roy plan was but it finally seems to be taking hold.  

Torres was never much of an imaginative dribbler, but he has the legs and the muscle to get past his marker- which is really all you need unless yuh from Trinindad and hence labeled a shittong if yuh cyah "beat"....

That said, Torres is a different player in the EPL than he was in the Spanish league....In the Spanish league he was alot more mobile but a poor finisher....In the EPL, he is less mobile but a way better finisher....one of the few players that I've seen adjust to a new league almost instantaneously...looks to be finding back some fitness and confidence. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 07, 2010, 01:36:00 PM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?

Yeah that's why he's a master of creating chances in tight spaces.


Tenor... I agree, I dunno what Roy plan was but it finally seems to be taking hold.  

Torres was never much of an imaginative dribbler, but he has the legs and the muscle to get past his marker- which is really all you need unless yuh from Trinindad and hence labeled a shittong if yuh cyah "beat"....

That said, Torres is a different player in the EPL than he was in the Spanish league....In the Spanish league he was alot more mobile but a poor finisher....In the EPL, he is less mobile but a way better finisher....one of the few players that I've seen adjust to a new league almost instantaneously...looks to be finding back some fitness and confidence. 

YOu will never confuse Torres with a Brazilian, but to say he "can't dribble tuh save he life" is pure shit talk.  He have all kinda deft touches with the ball at his feet to pick it up and run at defenders or to create the slightest of openings to get his shot off.  If the definition of "dribble" is to hit man spanner and roly poly nutmeg then yeah.. he can't dribble  ::)
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on November 07, 2010, 02:33:43 PM
In all fairness bout Torres and he dribbling skills.  When he picked up the ball around Chelsea's box today, there were usually about 3-4 men around him.  He ain't that type of a player.  He is much more dangerous 1 v 1.  I've seen him destroy men on the dribble in those situations.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 07, 2010, 02:37:04 PM
In all fairness bout Torres and he dribbling skills.  When he picked up the ball around Chelsea's box today, there were usually about 3-4 men around him.  He ain't that type of a player.  He is much more dangerous 1 v 1.  I've seen him destroy men on the dribble in those situations.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Qq5aro_BVqA&feature=related

Doh worry... all the sequences in this vid exist only in dreams.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 02:47:08 PM
In all fairness bout Torres and he dribbling skills.  When he picked up the ball around Chelsea's box today, there were usually about 3-4 men around him.  He ain't that type of a player.  He is much more dangerous 1 v 1.  I've seen him destroy men on the dribble in those situations.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Qq5aro_BVqA&feature=related



Glad ah give yuh something tuh do today! And I didn't know you and Torres so close!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Jay10 on November 07, 2010, 02:47:47 PM
Missin lamps alot...Ramires still not up to speed...To be fair...we didnt pass any of our major tests this season ...hope things change when everyone fit.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 07, 2010, 02:53:49 PM
We eh hiding like alyuh. I went to church, couldn't be bothered really. See I have faith in my team, don't have to hide during the game and then after 95 minutes  :devil: of playing come out and gloat.

We lose a game, we expect that to be big news as we are not accustomed to losing.

:beermug:

look how talk change  ::)

he does only stay away from church to watch utd  ;D

Good  one.     :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on November 07, 2010, 05:02:22 PM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?

Yeah that's why he's a master of creating chances in tight spaces.


Tenor... I agree, I dunno what Roy plan was but it finally seems to be taking hold.  

In your dreams I am sure. The guy is good at shifting the ball to the side tuh create space but  his way tuh get by a defender is tuh push the ball past them and chase it. He is not good at beatsin a man or two by dribbling past or tru them.
          What is it you really trying to say,if a man don't have to beats and could develope other ways of scoreing his goals all credit to him,Torres is a boss.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 05:21:14 PM
Torres great goal scorer but he can't dribble tuh save he life. chelski appears tuh be missin Fat Frank especally when Drogba aint startin or off his game. Is Essien injured?

Yeah that's why he's a master of creating chances in tight spaces.


Tenor... I agree, I dunno what Roy plan was but it finally seems to be taking hold.  

In your dreams I am sure. The guy is good at shifting the ball to the side tuh create space but  his way tuh get by a defender is tuh push the ball past them and chase it. He is not good at beatsin a man or two by dribbling past or tru them.
          What is it you really trying to say,if a man don't have to beats and could develope other ways of scoreing his goals all credit to him,Torres is a boss.

I say the man is a great goal scorer but in my opinion he can dribble tuh save his life,others beg tuh differ which is fine but yuh swear i said the man was a shitsnake! But that is expected when it comes tuh this forum.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: rotatopoti3 on November 07, 2010, 08:35:00 PM

I say the man is a great goal scorer but in my opinion he can dribble tuh save his life,others beg tuh differ which is fine but yuh swear i said the man was a shitsnake! But that is expected when it comes tuh this forum


Fella yuh drowing in tis argument....let we put things in ah simpler form..none of your present ManU strikers in Torres class....yuh really analyze how this fella does take he goals....
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on November 07, 2010, 08:58:18 PM

I say the man is a great goal scorer but in my opinion he can dribble tuh save his life,others beg tuh differ which is fine but yuh swear i said the man was a shitsnake! But that is expected when it comes tuh this forum


Fella yuh drowing in tis argument....let we put things in ah simpler form..none of your present ManU strikers in Torres class....yuh really analyze how this fella does take he goals....

allyuh like to use utd name loose loose eh.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 07, 2010, 09:13:56 PM
allyuh like to use utd name loose loose eh.

Loose my ass... is ah Utd fan in here talking shit about thing she obviously doh know nutten about.  Leh she go ask Ferdinand and Vidic if Torres could dribble nah.. see what they say.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: just cool on November 07, 2010, 09:22:10 PM
Super Mario Ballotelli got out the blocks with ah brace, but short lived after ah real small infraction where he received a straight red. ah mean it was ah foul, but a yellow card @ best, in spite that he poison then all the same. say what.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on November 07, 2010, 09:25:11 PM
allyuh like to use utd name loose loose eh.

Loose my ass... is ah Utd fan in here talking shit about thing she obviously doh know nutten about.  Leh she go ask Ferdinand and Vidic if Torres could dribble nah.. see what they say.

steups...... u pray hard that torres stay after this year
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 07, 2010, 11:03:32 PM
Super Mario Ballotelli got out the blocks with ah brace, but short lived after ah real small infraction where he received a straight red. ah mean it was ah foul, but a yellow card @ best, in spite that he poison then all the same. say what.

Is Man Utd, Man City playing next, so as per script the FA on point with Ballotelli red card. However, they appeal so he most likely will play. An appeal takes about 7 days.

Vidic and Ferdinand better prepare well.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on November 08, 2010, 05:12:03 AM
Super Mario Ballotelli got out the blocks with ah brace, but short lived after ah real small infraction where he received a straight red. ah mean it was ah foul, but a yellow card @ best, in spite that he poison then all the same. say what.

Is Man Utd, Man City playing next, so as per script the FA on point with Ballotelli red card. However, they appeal so he most likely will play. An appeal takes about 7 days.

Vidic and Ferdinand better prepare well.

Ize a Mario Ballotelli fan...buh......take yuh bias out yuh eyes for a lil bit. He get two yellows. Dis man real fustrating. Two unnecessary cards.

http://www.premierleague.com/page/MatchReports/0,,12306~51757,00.html

Quote
The scoreline did not flatter City and they almost increased their advantage when Tevez sent a free-kick on to the roof of Carson's net.

Balotelli then caused uproar by bundling over Nicky Shorey, although Probert did not deem the incident worthy of a yellow card.

The City striker might have been presented with a chance to complete his hat-trick just before the break but Yaya Toure's cross was cleared away.

City continued to press as the second half got under way, with Jerome Boateng finding himself in an unusually advanced position and just beaten to the ball by Carson.

Simon Cox almost pulled one back for Albion in spectacular fashion, though, with a swerving effort that cracked against the post.

Having no doubt impressed watching Italy boss Cesare Prandelli with his finishing prowess, Balotelli then received his marching orders after being shown yellow and then red cards in quick succession.

http://www.easy-share.com/1912897179/Day11_WestBromwich_vs_ManCity_BalotelliYellowCard.avi

http://www.easy-share.com/1912897177/Day11_WestBromwich_vs_ManCity_BalotelliRedCard.avi

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on November 08, 2010, 06:26:44 AM
Super Mario Ballotelli got out the blocks with ah brace, but short lived after ah real small infraction where he received a straight red. ah mean it was ah foul, but a yellow card @ best, in spite that he poison then all the same. say what.

Is Man Utd, Man City playing next, so as per script the FA on point with Ballotelli red card. However, they appeal so he most likely will play. An appeal takes about 7 days.

Vidic and Ferdinand better prepare well.
:rotfl:

u good yes...conspiracy theory right?

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 08, 2010, 08:30:27 AM
Super Mario Ballotelli got out the blocks with ah brace, but short lived after ah real small infraction where he received a straight red. ah mean it was ah foul, but a yellow card @ best, in spite that he poison then all the same. say what.

Is Man Utd, Man City playing next, so as per script the FA on point with Ballotelli red card. However, they appeal so he most likely will play. An appeal takes about 7 days.

Vidic and Ferdinand better prepare well.

Ize a Mario Ballotelli fan...buh......take yuh bias out yuh eyes for a lil bit. He get two yellows. Dis man real fustrating. Two unnecessary cards.

http://www.premierleague.com/page/MatchReports/0,,12306~51757,00.html

Quote
The scoreline did not flatter City and they almost increased their advantage when Tevez sent a free-kick on to the roof of Carson's net.

Balotelli then caused uproar by bundling over Nicky Shorey, although Probert did not deem the incident worthy of a yellow card.

The City striker might have been presented with a chance to complete his hat-trick just before the break but Yaya Toure's cross was cleared away.

City continued to press as the second half got under way, with Jerome Boateng finding himself in an unusually advanced position and just beaten to the ball by Carson.

Simon Cox almost pulled one back for Albion in spectacular fashion, though, with a swerving effort that cracked against the post.

Having no doubt impressed watching Italy boss Cesare Prandelli with his finishing prowess, Balotelli then received his marching orders after being shown yellow and then red cards in quick succession.

http://www.easy-share.com/1912897179/Day11_WestBromwich_vs_ManCity_BalotelliYellowCard.avi

http://www.easy-share.com/1912897177/Day11_WestBromwich_vs_ManCity_BalotelliRedCard.avi




That 1st card is a :bs: card. That is no where a yellow. Ballotelli will have lleh to ketch with refs in this league. He got nothing in this game. A couple time the RB hold on to him, literally wrap him up and the ref just play on. Then the LB just shove him to the ground from behind and nothing.


Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on November 08, 2010, 08:43:46 AM
Arhmm.....given that he tackle a man hard before and got away.....and then going in so hard from behind....I not surprised.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 08, 2010, 09:00:48 AM
Arhmm.....given that he tackle a man hard before and got away.....and then going in so hard from behind....I not surprised.



I guess everyone is closing their eyes to the defender arm wrapped around Ballotelli leg. The defender held on to Ballotelli and would not let him go. WTH. Because is Ballotelli and he know that everything he do is scrutinized he should just stop try get the ball?  :bs: utter :bs:

The defender was the only one on that play that should be carded.

Explain to me what Ballotelli should have done on that play with the defender arm around his leg?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 08, 2010, 09:02:44 AM
Arhmm.....given that he tackle a man hard before and got away.....and then going in so hard from behind....I not surprised.




He did not go in from behind, he made a concerted effort to get around. The tackle was late, but is was not from behind


2nd Card
I guess everyone is closing their eyes to the defender arm wrapped around Ballotelli leg. The defender held on to Ballotelli and would not let him go. WTH. Because is Ballotelli and he know that everything he do is scrutinized he should just stop try get the ball?  :bs: utter :bs:

The defender was the only one on that play that should be carded.

Explain to me what Ballotelli should have done on that play with the defender arm around his leg?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on November 08, 2010, 09:05:00 AM
Arhmm.....given that he tackle a man hard before and got away.....and then going in so hard from behind....I not surprised.



I guess everyone is closing their eyes to the defender arm wrapped around Ballotelli leg. The defender held on to Ballotelli and would not let him go. WTH. Because is Ballotelli and he know that everything he do is scrutinized he should just stop try get the ball?  :bs: utter :bs:

The defender was the only one on that play that should be carded.

Explain to me what Ballotelli should have done on that play with the defender arm around his leg?

Nobody saying no. But.....de fact is....a man going in from de back...very likely to get a card.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 08, 2010, 09:23:21 AM
I bet that If City's next game was not vs United you wouldnt hear a word about Ignorant Ballo's red card from mr I'm A Chelsea fan but all I do is study United Elan

I never see a man so scared of a next team that he watching the fixture list and making sure the next team have their main players and crying about if they dont with conspiracy theories .... paranoid much?

I hope you in the bridge when we burn it down on the 19th..
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 08, 2010, 09:43:35 AM
I bet that If City's next game was not vs United you wouldnt hear a word about Ignorant Ballo's red card from mr I'm A Chelsea fan but all I do is study United Elan

I never see a man so scared of a next team that he watching the fixture list and making sure the next team have their main players and crying about if they dont with conspiracy theories .... paranoid much?

I hope you in the bridge when we burn it down on the 19th..

pish
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 08, 2010, 11:43:12 AM
Missin lamps alot...Ramires still not up to speed...To be fair...we didnt pass any of our major tests this season ...hope things change when everyone fit.

Nah doh say dat because we level de same WBA who buss Arsenal ass and take ah draw from ManUre. :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on November 08, 2010, 04:29:41 PM
Missin lamps alot...Ramires still not up to speed...To be fair...we didnt pass any of our major tests this season ...hope things change when everyone fit.

Nah doh say dat because we level de same WBA who buss Arsenal ass and take ah draw from ManUre. :rotfl:

u using arsenal as a comparison side? allyuh standards real drop boy
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 09, 2010, 02:31:45 PM
Stoke City 1 vs Birmingham 0  Huth 40'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 09, 2010, 03:20:15 PM
Stoke City 2 vs Birmingham 0 Fuller
 Huth 40" 
 Fuller 71"
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 09, 2010, 03:22:14 PM
Stoke City 2 vs Birmingham 2

Huth 40'
Fuller 71'
                       Fahey 74'
                       Jerome 76'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 09, 2010, 03:30:49 PM
Stoke City 3 vs Birmingham 2

Huth 40'
Fuller 71'
                       Fahey 74'
                       Jerome 76'
Whitehead 85'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 09, 2010, 04:23:56 PM
Missin lamps alot...Ramires still not up to speed...To be fair...we didnt pass any of our major tests this season ...hope things change when everyone fit.

Nah doh say dat because we level de same WBA who buss Arsenal ass and take ah draw from ManUre. :rotfl:

u using arsenal as a comparison side? allyuh standards real drop boy

If daiz de bess yuh get from my statement den good fuh you.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 10, 2010, 03:50:21 PM
Ok so where did they get 4 minutes in this game?   :o
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: chelsealife on November 13, 2010, 09:52:45 AM
Bolton will be my team of the year if the keep playing the way the are currently playing. They a flying under d radar. Blackpool and West Brom getting hyped in d UK for their play but Bolton has been very consistent. Hope Jlloyd returns soon and contributes positively in some way
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Preacher on November 13, 2010, 12:15:21 PM
Stoke holding Liverpool.  Jones' touch is a hard one boy.  Great in the Air and and positioning.  That touch would help he goal rate.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Socafan on November 13, 2010, 12:25:12 PM
Stoke holding Liverpool.  Jones' touch is a hard one boy.  Great in the Air and and positioning.  That touch would help he goal rate.

Finally seeing what people does be talking about. He actually IS a handful. Not sure why this game more than others. He wins most of the aerial challenges(when he challenges) and almost always manages to make an accurate pass with them. His support running needs to improve plenty though, but sometimes I think thats because he's playing to instruction (find yuh ass in the middle when ball coming down). He needs to tangleup with goalkeepers more, me eh know if he 'fraid since the injury.

Fuh sure, fuh sure Concacaf cyar handle he, if he on a good team :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Preacher on November 13, 2010, 12:43:49 PM
If he on a good team is right...:)
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 13, 2010, 01:24:12 PM
Walters is ah real imps yuh kno.  2x de man ha KJ open an do shit!!  Big up KJ, Pennant ha yuh back!!!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: mukumsplau on November 13, 2010, 01:25:03 PM
ay ay..kj score a footer
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Socafan on November 13, 2010, 01:30:56 PM
2-0 Stoke.They didn't look too bad. Decent game KJ. Whappen to Liverpool though?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: FF on November 13, 2010, 01:31:58 PM
Walters is ah real imps yuh kno.  2x de man ha KJ open an do shit!!  Big up KJ, Pennant ha yuh back!!!

ah was real cussing he, real greedy man ting.. if i was de coach he ent seeing de field for a while
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: theworm2345 on November 13, 2010, 01:40:50 PM
Walters is ah real imps yuh kno.  2x de man ha KJ open an do shit!!  Big up KJ, Pennant ha yuh back!!!

ah was real cussing he, real greedy man ting.. if i was de coach he ent seeing de field for a while
Walters is an Irish guy so I have been following him for a long time.  To be honest I don't think he's really good enough for the EPL though I hope he'll prove me wrong.  He probably realizes he needs to make a mark with Gudjohnsen and Tuncay also there.

In the first half Fuller picked out Jones in a similar position though Jones took a bad touch and still made something of it and crossed for Etherington.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 13, 2010, 01:41:27 PM
As well as we played against Chelsea last week we came out real uninspired this game.  Also thought the ref let the game get away from him there was a lot of physical play all over the field and I think that worked to Stokes' advantage... although they didn't really capitalize.  Delap is such a great additional weapon to have on those long throws... time after time Stoke threatened and that scramble shit goal Fuller score had been in the works for some time.  

Kudos to Pennant... he was certainly fired up, and continues a nice revival of  his career.  Was one of my faves while at Anfield but he got crowded out.  Today he made us pay. Jones had a very up and down game for me, his touches are ridiculously bad at times... but as with any striker, give him enough chances to get it right and chances are that he will.  The commentators real rate him up, even the Fox studio crew.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on November 13, 2010, 02:32:04 PM
As well as we played against Chelsea last week we came out real uninspired this game.  Also thought the ref let the game get away from him there was a lot of physical play all over the field and I think that worked to Stokes' advantage... although they didn't really capitalize.  Delap is such a great additional weapon to have on those long throws... time after time Stoke threatened and that scramble shit goal Fuller score had been in the works for some time.  

Kudos to Pennant... he was certainly fired up, and continues a nice revival of  his career.  Was one of my faves while at Anfield but he got crowded out.  Today he made us pay. Jones had a very up and down game for me, his touches are ridiculously bad at times... but as with any striker, give him enough chances to get it right and chances are that he will.  The commentators real rate him up, even the Fox studio crew.

yea horrible game by liverpool today. though still happy that jones got a goal. pennant....what can i say i always had a respect for the guy. he's playing some real ball now.

i think after meireles and maxi came off that left the middle vulnerable to stoke's counter attacks. i have to mention babel, he came out to play today and had some good runs. hope to see more from him.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 13, 2010, 05:03:53 PM
yea horrible game by liverpool today. though still happy that jones got a goal. pennant....what can i say i always had a respect for the guy. he's playing some real ball now.

i think after meireles and maxi came off that left the middle vulnerable to stoke's counter attacks. i have to mention babel, he came out to play today and had some good runs. hope to see more from him.

I was real surprised when Roy left Torres (who completely disappeared in the second half) in there along with Kuyt up front, then brought in both Ngog and Babel.  Babel eh play in like 5 yrs so he was fresh like baby milk when he come on... he made some nice threatening runs, but credit to Stokes, they just di'n allow we to get anything started today.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: just cool on November 13, 2010, 08:57:05 PM
As well as we played against Chelsea last week we came out real uninspired this game.  Also thought the ref let the game get away from him there was a lot of physical play all over the field and I think that worked to Stokes' advantage... although they didn't really capitalize.  Delap is such a great additional weapon to have on those long throws... time after time Stoke threatened and that scramble shit goal Fuller score had been in the works for some time.  

Kudos to Pennant... he was certainly fired up, and continues a nice revival of  his career.  Was one of my faves while at Anfield but he got crowded out.  Today he made us pay. Jones had a very up and down game for me, his touches are ridiculously bad at times... but as with any striker, give him enough chances to get it right and chances are that he will.  The commentators real rate him up, even the Fox studio crew.
Shaggy really help poison allyuh today,  to me it seems like he had something to prove and he did.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 13, 2010, 09:20:48 PM
I love Ian Holloway

"To put it in gentleman's terms, if you've been out for a night and you're looking for a young lady and you pull one, you've done what you set out to do. We didn't look our best today but we've pulled. Some weeks the lady is good looking and some weeks they're not. Our performance today would have been not the best looking bird but at least we got her in the taxi. She may not have been the best looking lady we ended up taking home but it was still very pleasant and very nice, so thanks very much and let's have coffee." Ian Holloway

 :rotfl: :rotfl: LEGEND
 :beermug:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on November 14, 2010, 08:40:57 AM
Sagna now hit a nice one.

On the feed I watchin here the man change the channel to a live camera of a ting in lingerie writhing around on a bed lol.
Now he channel surfin.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 14, 2010, 10:56:08 AM
Chelsea 0-0 Sunderland 44'

Ivanovic just get away with one dey... he should be reaching fuh he soap and towel all now.  Welbeck terrorizing dat Chelsea backline.

--------------------------

Er... check dat

Chelsea 0-1 Sunderland halftime.... Onuoha just moonwalk thru de Chelsea defense and slip one past Cech.

-----------------------

Henderson and Gyan juss rape dem again... Chelsea 0-2 Sunderland 52'

Gyan with the finish after he and Henderson play one-touch triangulation on de practice field.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Socafan on November 14, 2010, 11:35:58 AM
Whey sah.....Sunderland actually have ah knocking ball brand yes. Things change fuh them boy. They looking like they could rest more on Cheasea too. Meanwhile, Chelsea looking uninspired, and not looking like they scoring anytime soon. They shoulda be on 10 men too.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Boodsy on November 14, 2010, 11:39:54 AM
Chelsea fans deserves a refund...
I couldn't have imagine this scoreline @ Stamford Bridge  :-[
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 14, 2010, 11:45:49 AM
Whey sah.....Sunderland actually have ah knocking ball brand yes. Things change fuh them boy. They looking like they could rest more on Cheasea too. Meanwhile, Chelsea looking uninspired, and not looking like they scoring anytime soon. They shoulda be on 10 men too.


Just when I thought at kickoff that Ferreira would be the weak link in the back it turn out to be Zhirkoff in midfield. The man having his worst game in a a Chelsea shirt.....and Carlo refuse to take him off.   Sunderland deserve to win this game.  My side looking even less inspired than they did against liverpool last week.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on November 14, 2010, 11:49:45 AM
Ah tell alyu Bruce is a boss.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 14, 2010, 11:53:28 AM
Ah tell alyu Bruce is a boss.

He never win against Chelsea until today....what really make him a boss?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Preacher on November 14, 2010, 11:54:25 AM
What The....I jess see Sund. 2 -Chel 0    ::)     Gyan score again?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on November 14, 2010, 11:59:10 AM
Ah tell alyu Bruce is a boss.

He never win against Chelsea until today....what really make him a boss?
      He made some harsh/unpopular decisions and it's paying off.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 14, 2010, 12:00:24 PM
Ah tell alyu Bruce is a boss.

He never win against Chelsea until today....what really make him a boss?
      He made some harsh/unpopular decisions and it's paying off.

  Arright, ok.....I hear yuh.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 14, 2010, 12:01:16 PM
What The....I jess see Sund. 2 -Chel 0    ::)     Gyan score again?

3-0... Gyah score, but Welbeck is de man who propel Sunderland throughout.  Fittingly Cashley served him up one on ah platter for a well-deserved score.

Score could easily have been 5-0... Zenden throw'way in de dregs and Welbeck forced a diving left-handed save from Cech off a sweet header.  Only real Chelsea chance I could remember was Ramires' header early in the second half.

      He made some harsh/unpopular decisions and it's paying off.

I won't be so quick to credit Bruce... Gyan has made all the difference.  Today is the first time all season a Sunderland player other than him or Bent score.  Not sure how Welbeck has played up to now though, and defensively they've looked much better (considering they gave up 7 to Chelsea the last time).
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: fari on November 14, 2010, 12:03:57 PM
Ah tell alyu Bruce is a boss.

the man have realll good tactics...and with an inspired gyan and welbeck (that man deserved his goal)...chelsea were never going to have an easy day
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on November 14, 2010, 12:08:05 PM
What The....I jess see Sund. 2 -Chel 0    ::)     Gyan score again?

3-0... Gyah score, but Welbeck is de man who propel Sunderland throughout.  Fittingly Cashley served him up one on ah platter for a well-deserved score.

Score could easily have been 5-0... Zenden throw'way in de dregs and Welbeck forced a diving left-handed save from Cech off a sweet header.  Only real Chelsea chance I could remember was Ramires' header early in the second half.

      He made some harsh/unpopular decisions and it's paying off.

I won't be so quick to credit Bruce... Gyan has made all the difference.  Today is the first time all season a Sunderland player other than him or Bent score.  Not sure how Welbeck has played up to now though, and defensively they've looked much better (considering they gave up 7 to Chelsea the last time).
      The thing is he got rid of Kenwyne and pick up Gyan,he got a lot of stick for that on here.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 14, 2010, 12:22:51 PM
      The thing is he got rid of Kenwyne and pick up Gyan,he got a lot of stick for that on here.

lol, yuh harsh.


But right... funny enough I was thinking about that comparison watching the game. Perhaps unfair to Kenwyne to compare him to Gyan, who clearly brings a different skillset. Gyan is a player who can create for himself, whereas KJ need table service... KJ was more active yesterday than I've seen him in quite some time, but we shouldn't mistake activity for achievement.  Gyan (today at least) was not only active, but threatening with his runs... and doing it against a better defense than KJ faced yesterday.  Gyan only has one more goal than Kenwyne so far, but you have to like his chances of beating him in that deparment this season.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 14, 2010, 12:27:11 PM
Is 3 we get in we arse from Sunderland?   :o :o :o    :rotfl: :rotfl:   WTH I seeing here boy. We handing Man United the title jes so. Daiz licks  :whip: :whip:   
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on November 14, 2010, 12:33:12 PM
      The thing is he got rid of Kenwyne and pick up Gyan,he got a lot of stick for that on here.

lol, yuh harsh.


But right... funny enough I was thinking about that comparison watching the game. Perhaps unfair to Kenwyne to compare him to Gyan, who clearly brings a different skillset. Gyan is a player who can create for himself, whereas KJ need table service... KJ was more active yesterday than I've seen him in quite some time, but we shouldn't mistake activity for achievement.  Gyan (today at least) was not only active, but threatening with his runs... and doing it against a better defense than KJ faced yesterday.  Gyan only has one more goal than Kenwyne so far, but you have to like his chances of beating him in that deparment this season.

      I eh mean to be harsh but i like/agree your thoughts.
Title: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: Zeppo on November 14, 2010, 01:25:19 PM
Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton

U.S. midfielder Stuart Holden scored his first Bolton goal Saturday to clinch a 3-2 victory over Wolverhampton in the Premier League on Saturday, while compatriot Brad Friedel conceded twice in four minutes as Aston Villa threw away a two-goal lead for a 2-2 draw with Manchester United.

Bolton is turning out to be this season's surprise, closing the gap on fourth-place Manchester City in the final Champions League qualification spot to three points with a third of the season gone.

Bolton went ahead at Wolves after just 45 seconds, with defender Richard Stearman heading into his own net.

(continue) (http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5801365/stuart-holden-nets-first-premier-league-goal-bolton-wanderers)
Title: Re: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: Quags on November 14, 2010, 01:44:59 PM
Who the hell is Stuart Holden  ???
Title: Re: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: MEP on November 14, 2010, 03:31:58 PM
de shithong who does give we some problems when we play de US
Title: Re: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: fish on November 14, 2010, 08:35:16 PM
Used to play for Houston Dynamo. Started in attackin mid after De Rosario left. Then got a transfer last season to Bolton.

Like is only one shit player on USA dat does give we side problems...  ::)
Title: Re: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: Storeboy on November 14, 2010, 09:12:03 PM
 ???So why are we talking about Stuart Holden on this site?  Does he have T&T eligibility?  Steeeeuuuppppps!
Title: Re: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: Socapro on November 14, 2010, 10:27:38 PM
de shithong who does give we some problems when we play de US

What does that say about us then when it comes to playing the USA?  :-[
Title: Re: Stuart Holden nets first Premier League goal for Bolton
Post by: MEP on November 16, 2010, 11:27:02 AM
de shithong who does give we some problems when we play de US

What does that say about us then when it comes to playing the USA?  :-[
my point exactly
Title: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: futbolfan on November 17, 2010, 12:36:36 PM
Me eh know eh, but de man try to show up Mourinho but instead he make Redknapp look like ah real jokey coach.  ::)   ::)  ::)

Van der Vaart hails Redknapp's relaxed style
By ESPNsoccernet staff

Rafael van der Vaart has praised Harry Redknapp's relaxed style of management, claiming Tottenham's lack of focus on tactics has brought out the best in him.
Van der Vaart has quickly stamped himself as a goalscoring midfielder to be feared since his deadline-day move from Real Madrid to north London in the summer.

Van der Vaart has scored seven times for Spurs already and, after admitting he found football "boring'' under new Madrid boss Jose Mourinho, claims Redknapp's more laid-back approach is working wonders for him and the team.

"Harry is a very special man, that's why I already feel at home at Spurs. It feels like I'm back on the street,'' he was quoted as saying in the Sun. "There are no long and boring speeches about tactics, like I was used to at Real Madrid. There is a board in our dressing room but Harry doesn't write anything on it.''
Van der Vaart said that training sessions under Redknapp were also a low-key affair, claiming that their recent successes, such as the memorable win over Champions League holders Inter Milan, were more about about team work than tactics.

"It's not that we do nothing - but it's close to that,'' he added. "For instance, last weekend Gareth Bale scored a header against Blackburn from my corner. But we didn't train one minute on it, it was pure luck. Good kicking, good heading, nothing more. And our win at home over Champions League winners Inter Milan was a clear example of playing on intuition. You can't train the goal I scored in that game.''

Title: Re: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: Bourbon on November 17, 2010, 12:38:12 PM
Harry for TT Manager!

Title: Re: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: dinho on November 17, 2010, 12:44:01 PM
study Van Der Vaart only train under Mourinho for what.. a 2 months?
Title: Re: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: Lower St. John on November 17, 2010, 12:51:59 PM
Tactics??  Who needs Tactics?  So what if there is nothing written on the board! Just go out and play street football.  It is more important that we gel as a team and have fun.  Harry for Trinbago Coach.

Blessings
Title: Re: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: Ngozi on November 17, 2010, 01:05:55 PM
I think he was misquoted ... and the press making it appear as though it's lack of tactics when its really a laid back approach to dealing with his players .. anyway won't change the price of sugarcane.
Title: Re: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: kicker on November 17, 2010, 01:35:47 PM
Some coaches aren't as big on tactics as others.

Rijkaard was known to be one who gave his players alot of freedom to play without restraining tactics.

I eh no coach but if I were I believe I'd be of the philosophy that no amount of tactics can beat hard work, organization, team chemistry and imagination...(and of course quality players)
Title: Re: Van der Vaart could fit in wid we
Post by: KND2 on November 17, 2010, 01:44:21 PM
It helps when you have good players
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2010, 07:15:03 AM
Lots on games on TV this weekend... home team listed first, all times are Eastern Daylight Time:

Saturday November 20th

Starting with the North London Derby- interesting subplot as former Arsenal captain William Gallas returns to the Emirates Stadium for the first time since his controversial departure from the Gunners.  Supposedly Sami Al-Nasri refused to shake his hand before the game.

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif)  Arsenal-2 (Nasri 9', Chamakh 27') v  0- (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/79/f3/0,,12306~3339129,00.gif)  Spurs - (on now)



(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/be/9f/0,,12306~6004670,00.gif)  Birmingham v  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif)  Chelsea- FSP 9:55 am


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/72/f3/0,,12306~3339122,00.gif)  Manchester United v  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7b/f3/0,,12306~3339131,00.gif)  Wigan Athletic- FSC 10:00 am


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7a/f3/0,,12306~3339130,00.gif)  West Ham United v  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool- FSC 12:00 noon



Sunday November 21st


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Villa v  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/65/f3/0,,12306~3339109,00.gif)  Blackburn Rovers- FSP 8:30 am


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6c/f3/0,,12306~3339116,00.gif)  Fulham v  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif)  Manchester City- FSC 11:00 am

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: DeSoWa on November 20, 2010, 07:47:25 AM
Arshavin defending  :rotfl: and looking good too  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Feliziano on November 20, 2010, 07:48:41 AM
ah know they could only show so much of the matches Live but it really obvious the bigger clubs get the best airtime.
I woulda liked to see Newcastle v Bolton live instead of Chelsea v Birmingham
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2010, 07:56:59 AM
Spurs pull one back (Bale 50') 1-2 Arsenal

EDIT:


Spurs have pulled even (Van Der Vaart 66' pen) 2-2 Arsenal


Fabregas with one of the dumbest penalties I've seen in a while... lined up in a wall inside his own box he raised his hand to block Van Der Vaart's free kick.  Then had the nerve to try and claim he was shielding his face.  I guess he doh know where his own face is... seeing that the ball was a good foot to his left and going away from him.

Game on.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: TdotTrini on November 20, 2010, 08:14:36 AM
shit, Arsene took too long to replace Chamakh. To me Chamakh was breaksin from the ball and pull Fabregas hand with his.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2010, 08:22:47 AM
shit, Arsene took too long to replace Chamakh. To me Chamakh was breaksin from the ball and pull Fabregas hand with his.

Fabregas hand was superglue tuh Chamakh forearm? lol

Both ah dem raise dey hand but the ball was heading towards Chamakh so at least he had a valid excuse.  Same backside move Fabregas pull against Liverpool last time we play dem and Howard Webb didn't give the call.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on November 20, 2010, 08:30:05 AM
Spurs!!!

3-2
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: TdotTrini on November 20, 2010, 08:30:56 AM
lol, I was just being pissed off at Chamahk long before the penalty, he was not insinct with the offence going forward, not running into space.

f**k 3-2 Spurs.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2010, 08:31:36 AM
Spurs!!!

3-2

Fantastic delivery by Van Der Vaart... acquisition of the season thus far.  Sweet flick on by Kaboul for the goal.  Kosczielny musse feeling like ah real tun tun for his cynical foul on Bale knowing he couldn't match him for pace.

Good fight and character shown by Spurs.


Tdot I actually find he earn he pay today... but I agree that he squandered at least two threatening touches.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on November 20, 2010, 08:40:37 AM
They could play Hotspurs - Arsenal every week. Always entertaining.

I guess Harry "go out and sweat" halftime speech does work.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2010, 08:44:45 AM
They could play Hotspurs - Arsenal every week. Always entertaining.

I guess Harry "go out and sweat" halftime speech does work.

Lol.. ent!

It was interesting listening to the commentary at the half when Arsenal was up 2-0... Darke and Ekoku were saying how premature the talk was that Spurs had closed the gap on Arsenal, and how this Derby is often celebrated among Arsenal fans as "Totteringham Day", b/c usually by the time this game comes around Spurs have already been mathematically eliminated from passing Arsenal in the table. 

They even talk about how much of a non-factor Bale and Van Der Vaart was.   Funny how quickly things can change... Bale with the opener for Spurs (assisted by Van Der Vaart), Van Der Vaart earns and takes the penalty, then Kaboul scores off his free kick for the winner.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on November 20, 2010, 08:46:39 AM
Want to beat Arsenal! Force set plays.
Well done Spurs.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: College on November 20, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
 Spurs ... :wavetowel:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dinho on November 20, 2010, 08:56:59 AM
They could play Hotspurs - Arsenal every week. Always entertaining.

I guess Harry "go out and sweat" halftime speech does work.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Bess game to wake up early on a Saturday morning for..

Chamakh is a goat. Had that been a Torres or any top 4 EPL striker this game wouldve been done and dusted a long time ago. If Van Persie get back to 100% though, Arsenal will do some serious damage because they have real men loading the gun.

Koscielney is a goat too but Bale is a smart player. In both challenges he sell Denilson and Koscielney into the yellow cards, purposely overpush and then accelerate at the last second.

I thought Modric was the player of the game for me.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: College on November 20, 2010, 09:01:46 AM
They could play Hotspurs - Arsenal every week. Always entertaining.

I guess Harry "go out and sweat" halftime speech does work.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Bess game to wake up early on a Saturday morning for..

Chamakh is a goat. Had that been a Torres or any top 4 EPL striker this game wouldve been done and dusted a long time ago. If Van Persie get back to 100% though, Arsenal will do some serious damage because they have real men loading the gun.

Koscielney is a goat too but Bale is a smart player. In both challenges he sell Denilson and Koscielney into the yellow cards, purposely overpush and then accelerate at the last second.

I thought Modric was the player of the game for me.

Modric had a great second half, but Galas was the player of the game for me.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 20, 2010, 09:17:22 AM
Modric had a great second half, but Galas was the player of the game for me.

Gallas had a very good, bordering on great game for me.  Assou-Ekotto and Kaboul were at fault on the Arsenal goals, but other than that they were solid at stifling anything up the middle and much of that had to do with Gallas' play.

Still... Van Der Vaart had a direct hand in all three Spurs goals, I dunno how he could NOT be atop anybody MOM list.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 20, 2010, 10:23:42 AM
Two red cards. As soon as Wigan players touch a player in red is a yellow card. A Rafael push down a player in blue from behind and not a card.    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:  This thing is a joke. Nani slam Figueroa to the floor and then kick at, when he get up the shove him and ref let them shake hands.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 20, 2010, 10:27:21 AM
 :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on November 20, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
Another cutarse    :'( :'(   How come we does cyah get to play against 8.   
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 27, 2010, 12:32:23 AM
Saturday November 27

Away team listed first, all times EDT:

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif)  Arsenal v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Vill - 7:30 am ESPN

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/65/f3/0,,12306~3339109,00.gif)  Blackburn United v.  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/72/f3/0,,12306~3339122,00.gif)  Manchester United - 9:55 am FSC

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif)  Manchester City v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c1/46/0,,12306~3688129,00.gif)  Stoke City - 10 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/be/9f/0,,12306~6004670,00.gif)  Birmingham City v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6c/f3/0,,12306~3339116,00.gif)  Fulham - 12 noon FSC


Sunday November 28


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif)  Chelsea v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/76/92/0,,12306~8819318,00.gif)  Newcastle United - 8:30 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/79/f3/0,,12306~3339129,00.gif)  Tottenham Hotspurs - 11 am FSC
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 27, 2010, 10:24:51 AM
Blackburn getting rape on national TV... 0-6 down to Man U.  Berba with a beaver trick.


EDIT:  Berba with his fifth... and still 20+ minutes to play.


Blackburn in absolute shambles.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on November 27, 2010, 10:34:52 AM
Steups I sold Berba long time.  4 points a goal plus bonuses, he makin about 30 pts.  If anyone have him as their captain they makin mas all now.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 27, 2010, 10:43:51 AM
Steups I sold Berba long time.  4 points a goal plus bonuses, he makin about 30 pts.  If anyone have him as their captain they makin mas all now.

I just coming to say whoever have Berba as captain real cleaning up today.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on November 27, 2010, 10:45:18 AM
Jeezus, Balotelli with a beauty!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: FF on November 27, 2010, 10:55:32 AM
Jeezus, Balotelli with a beauty!

is micah richards boss... stoke with ah almost better one though
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on November 27, 2010, 11:03:06 AM
Jeezus, Balotelli with a beauty!

is micah richards boss... stoke with ah almost better one though

Yeh I see it now.
Tuncay heel pass was exquisite.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 27, 2010, 11:56:05 AM
Steups I sold Berba long time.  4 points a goal plus bonuses, he makin about 30 pts.  If anyone have him as their captain they makin mas all now.

that would be me  ;D ;D

I real forget to change up the team... i doe play it serious but I now realise I had him as captain... I will try a ting now lol.. I get a big boost
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 03, 2010, 06:47:02 PM
Lots of games on TV this weekend...


Saturday December 4 Home team listed first, all times EDT:


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif)  Arsenal v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6c/f3/0,,12306~3339116,00.gif)  Fulham - 10 am FSC/Fox Deportes

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif)  Chelsea v.  (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6b/f3/0,,12306~3339115,00.gif)  Everton - 10 am ESPN2/ESPN3.com

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif)  Manchester City v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/67/f3/0,,12306~3339111,00.gif)  Bolton - 10 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/73/92/0,,12306~8819315,00.gif)  Blackpool United v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/72/f3/0,,12306~3339122,00.gif)  Manchester United- 12 noon FSC/Fox Deportes Game postponed due to cold weather

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/65/f3/0,,12306~3339109,00.gif)  Blackburn Rovers v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c6/9f/0,,12306~6004678,00.gif)  Wolverhampton- 2 pm FSP


Sunday December 5


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/77/92/0,,12306~8819319,00.gif)  West Bromwich Albion v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/76/92/0,,12306~8819318,00.gif)  Newcastle United - 8:30 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7b/f3/0,,12306~3339131,00.gif)  Wigan Athletic v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c1/46/0,,12306~3688129,00.gif)  Stoke City - 10:30 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/78/f3/0,,12306~3339128,00.gif)  Sunderland v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7a/f3/0,,12306~3339130,00.gif)  West Ham United - 11 am FSC/Fox Deportes


Monday December 6


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Villa - 2:55 pm ESPN2/ESPN3.com
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 04, 2010, 10:48:19 AM
Chelsea looking ordinary... Ancellotti coaching like a Big Phil redux.


Baines run pass Mikel, Kalou and Fereira like some Hollywood extras on de field... cross to Cahill on the far right post, back across to Jermaine Beckford... back of the net... equalizer.  Chelsea get ah early penalty and seemed content to sit on they 1-goal lead.  They really should be down 1-2 after Rodwell headed one off the inside of the post (better chance than Terry's lob onto the crossbar in the first half).

Talking point will be whether Howard should have been sent off for obstructing Anelka in the box... resulting in Drogba's penalty.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 04, 2010, 11:01:26 AM
Chelsea sit back on a 1-1 and get 7 minutes extra time and barely went forward...Everton should have won it in the end

WTF going on there?

I was watching that game confused... from the 60th them men sit back and stop playing
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 04, 2010, 11:08:53 AM
Chelsea looking ordinary... Ancellotti coaching like a Big Phil redux.


Baines run pass Mikel, Kalou and Fereira like some Hollywood extras on de field... cross to Cahill on the far right post, back across to Jermaine Beckford... back of the net... equalizer.  Chelsea get ah early penalty and seemed content to sit on they 1-goal lead.  They really should be down 1-2 after Rodwell headed one off the inside of the post (better chance than Terry's lob onto the crossbar in the first half).

Talking point will be whether Howard should have been sent off for obstructing Anelka in the box... resulting in Drogba's penalty.


Seriously Bake and Shark Howard did not move Anelka just ran into him. Watch the slow mo Anelka even stumble.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 04, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
Chelsea looking ordinary... Ancellotti coaching like a Big Phil redux.


Baines run pass Mikel, Kalou and Fereira like some Hollywood extras on de field... cross to Cahill on the far right post, back across to Jermaine Beckford... back of the net... equalizer.  Chelsea get ah early penalty and seemed content to sit on they 1-goal lead.  They really should be down 1-2 after Rodwell headed one off the inside of the post (better chance than Terry's lob onto the crossbar in the first half).

Talking point will be whether Howard should have been sent off for obstructing Anelka in the box... resulting in Drogba's penalty.


Seriously Bake and Shark Howard did not move Anelka just ran into him. Watch the slow mo Anelka even stumble.

agreed that was one shit call... Anelka ran into Howard.. of course Elan and etc will fight it down but that was a shit call
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 04, 2010, 11:13:22 AM

Seriously Bake and Shark Howard did not move Anelka just ran into him. Watch the slow mo Anelka even stumble.

Doh get me wrong... I agree.  Anelka kinda tie up heself... he push de ball right, across the face of goal, start to go left than try to cut back righ... all with some chippy steps.  His momentum take him straight into the on-coming Howard.  But I imagine Chelsea fans will point to that and say Everton shoulda been down to 10 men.


---------------------------------

Nasri with a nice brace against Fulham... two of the sweetest solo efforts you're likely to see anytime soon.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 04, 2010, 11:15:02 AM
Chelsea sit back on a 1-1 and get 7 minutes extra time and barely went forward...Everton should have won it in the end

WTF going on there?

I was watching that game confused... from the 60th them men sit back and stop playing

Fellaini is ah goat... he get ah sweet ball floated into de box with two men on him... and nobody on Beckford.  De facker try to control it off he chest to keep it, rather than knock it down into Beckford path.  Macca say he hair musse was in he eyes  :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 04, 2010, 11:19:58 AM
Chelsea sit back on a 1-1 and get 7 minutes extra time and barely went forward...Everton should have won it in the end

WTF going on there?

I was watching that game confused... from the 60th them men sit back and stop playing

Fellaini is ah goat... he get ah sweet ball floated into de box with two men on him... and nobody on Beckford.  De facker try to control it off he chest to keep it, rather than knock it down into Beckford path.  Macca say he hair musse was in he eyes  :rotfl:

that was a shocker... man was rell open.. simple nod down

everyone was trying to be the hero...Chelsea were on the ropes
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 06, 2010, 08:45:05 AM
Newcastle United have parted company with manager Chris Hughton following a recent dip in the team's fortunes.

The Magpies were beaten 3-1 at West Brom on Saturday, a week after holding Chelsea to a 1-1 draw, although that result followed a 5-1 defeat at Bolton.

Hughton guided Newcastle back into the Premier League in May after their relegation in the 2009-10 campaign.

Newcastle are currently 11th in the top flight, with five wins from 16 games - only two of those coming at home.

Rumours that the ex-Spurs defender was set to leave the club began circulating several weeks ago.

A statement on the club website said: "the board would like to place on record their thanks to Chris for his considerable efforts during the club's transition from Championship to Premier League club.

"Chris has shown exceptional character and commitment since being appointed manager in October 2009. The club wishes him well in the future.

"Regrettably the board now feels that an individual with more managerial experience is needed to take the club forward.

"The task of appointing a new manager now begins. An announcement will be made shortly regarding transitional arrangements pending the appointment of a successor."

More to follow.


WOWZERS... This seems a bit unfair... Mike Ashley is going to burn in hell
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 06, 2010, 09:07:34 AM
Very unfair indeed. Hughton stabilized the club after much turmoil. Newcastle is a prime example of a club that keeps changing coaches and simply cannot make any progresss. What the club needs is to get stable and then build, but nah! Another successful business man who brains turns to shit, once he enters the football world.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 06, 2010, 09:09:11 AM
That is real messed up! He was good enough to bring them back to the EPL but not good enough to be allowed a full season to manage the team in the EPL. I am waiting to see which recycled loser manager they are going to appoint!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 06, 2010, 09:20:03 AM
On another EPL note. I am very impressed with the work of Roberto DiMatteo. Wes Brom playing some composed and effective football. Not only are the players encouraged to play with confidence, but some genuine talent is emerging. For me Di Matteo is showing great quality here, simply because this is no cheque book team and he is patiently building for success.  :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mose on December 06, 2010, 09:31:31 AM
Very unfair indeed. Hughton stabilized the club after much turmoil. Newcastle is a prime example of a club that keeps changing coaches and simply cannot make any progresss. What the club needs is to get stable and then build, but nah! Another successful business man who brains turns to shit, once he enters the football world.
Agreed. Ah cyah support dat side anymore after dis.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 06, 2010, 10:03:38 AM
On another EPL note. I am very impressed with the work of Roberto DiMatteo. Wes Brom playing some composed and effective football. Not only are the players encouraged to play with confidence, but some genuine talent is emerging. For me Di Matteo is showing great quality here, simply because this is no cheque book team and he is patiently building for success.  :applause: :applause:

Dey actully knock the ball with positive effect!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Andre on December 06, 2010, 11:06:32 AM
Newcastle United have parted company with manager Chris Hughton following a recent dip in the team's fortunes.

The Magpies were beaten 3-1 at West Brom on Saturday, a week after holding Chelsea to a 1-1 draw, although that result followed a 5-1 defeat at Bolton.

Hughton guided Newcastle back into the Premier League in May after their relegation in the 2009-10 campaign.

Newcastle are currently 11th in the top flight, with five wins from 16 games - only two of those coming at home.

Rumours that the ex-Spurs defender was set to leave the club began circulating several weeks ago.

A statement on the club website said: "the board would like to place on record their thanks to Chris for his considerable efforts during the club's transition from Championship to Premier League club.

"Chris has shown exceptional character and commitment since being appointed manager in October 2009. The club wishes him well in the future.

"Regrettably the board now feels that an individual with more managerial experience is needed to take the club forward.

"The task of appointing a new manager now begins. An announcement will be made shortly regarding transitional arrangements pending the appointment of a successor."

More to follow.


WOWZERS... This seems a bit unfair... Mike Ashley is going to burn in hell


ABSOLUTE BULLSH*IT!

The Toon fans up in arms today for good reason.

he'll probably bring in somebody like relegation specialist ian dowie.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A78022208
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 06, 2010, 11:10:44 AM
Yes boy...I was shocked to see the headlines.  Been in the rumor mill for weeks,. but if you ask me, Newcastle has done well this season for a newly-promoted side.  Problem with this club is that they think they are a "big club".  Drawing 50,000 fans for each home game does not automatically mnake you a big team.  The trophy does not support that self perception.  The board and owner have got this one wrong.  Lets see them slide down the table now.  You could tell that the players enjoyed playing for Houghton.  They were quick to take responsibility for underperformance, as if to protect the coach.  At least he has proven himself capable of managing in the EPL.  There were seriouis doubts about whether he had the pedigree to be a manager.  When he was caretaker at Spurs, he had a torrid time, and that left people questioning whether he was just a first team coach, as against a manager.
Title: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: 1-868 on December 06, 2010, 11:20:13 AM
Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9261212.stm



Newcastle United have sacked Chris Hughton from his position as manager.

The announcement came a day after Newcastle lost 3-1 at West Brom, a result which left them 11th in the Premier League table.

Hughton, 51, guided Newcastle back into the top flight last season after their relegation in the 2008-09 campaign.

However, the club said on their official website they are seeking "an individual with more managerial experience" to take them forward.

"The board would like to place on record their thanks to Chris for his considerable efforts during the club's transition from Championship to Premier League club," said Newcastle in a statement.
   

"Chris has shown exceptional character and commitment since being appointed manager in October 2009. The club wishes him well in the future.

"The task of appointing a new manager now begins. An announcement will be made shortly regarding transitional arrangements pending the appointment of a successor."

Speculation has been growing for weeks regarding Hughton's future, although the club stated in October they would be looking to extend his contract in the new year.

The defeat at the Hawthorns, after which Hughton kept his players in the dressing room for an hour, was the Magpies' seventh of a season in a campaign in which they have won only two games at home.

However, these were a 5-1 victory over local rivals Sunderland in October and a 6-0 triumph against Aston Villa back in August.

They have registered wins at Everton and Arsenal this season under Hughton, but have picked up only two points from a possible 15 since the victory at the Emirates on 7 November.

Those results have led to Hughton becoming the first Premier League manager to be sacked this season.

Hughton, who has been working without an assistant manager since Colin Calderwood joined Hibernian in October, is followed out of St James' Park by goalkeeping coach Paul Barron.
Chris Hughton


Former Tottenham player and assistant manager Hughton arrived at Newcastle from White Hart Lane in February 2008 as coach to then Magpies boss Kevin Keegan.

He served as caretaker manager when Keegan left in September 2008, before reverting to assistant boss when Joe Kinnear was appointed manager on a temporary basis.

When Kinnear fell ill the following February, Hughton again stepped in, before assisting Iain Dowie and Alan Shearer as Newcastle were relegated.

Hughton was once again placed in caretaker charge in the summer of 2009, as owner Mike Ashley sought to sell the club, but the team started the Championship season so well he was given the role on a permanent basis in October 2009.

He went on to guide Newcastle to the Championship title with two games to spare.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: palos on December 06, 2010, 11:33:53 AM
It was only a matter of time.  He was never really in the running to manage Newcastle over the long term no matter what how the team performed.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Trinimassive on December 06, 2010, 11:52:10 AM
He's been doing a good job. He took them from Championship to currently 11th position presently.

It seems premature. Well that is unless they have a very experienced manager in mind.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Bally on December 06, 2010, 11:57:44 AM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: giggsy11 on December 06, 2010, 12:07:35 PM
I bet Shearer will be appointed or I wouldn't be surprised if he were to be appointed!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: DeSoWa on December 06, 2010, 12:11:26 PM
Newcastle United have parted company with manager Chris Hughton following a recent dip in the team's fortunes.

The Magpies were beaten 3-1 at West Brom on Saturday, a week after holding Chelsea to a 1-1 draw, although that result followed a 5-1 defeat at Bolton.

Hughton guided Newcastle back into the Premier League in May after their relegation in the 2009-10 campaign.

Newcastle are currently 11th in the top flight, with five wins from 16 games - only two of those coming at home.

Rumours that the ex-Spurs defender was set to leave the club began circulating several weeks ago.

A statement on the club website said: "the board would like to place on record their thanks to Chris for his considerable efforts during the club's transition from Championship to Premier League club.

"Chris has shown exceptional character and commitment since being appointed manager in October 2009. The club wishes him well in the future.

"Regrettably the board now feels that an individual with more managerial experience is needed to take the club forward.

"The task of appointing a new manager now begins. An announcement will be made shortly regarding transitional arrangements pending the appointment of a successor."

More to follow.


WOWZERS... This seems a bit unfair... Mike Ashley is going to burn in hell

This is ah real dotish move...steupss. This is one team I silently support from way back, and I think they were doing well up to a couple weeks ago. Real real bad move dey!  :(

Big Up!
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Andre on December 06, 2010, 12:16:24 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex

is not coz he black
is because mike ashley is a twat
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 06, 2010, 12:20:29 PM
Very unfair indeed. Hughton stabilized the club after much turmoil. Newcastle is a prime example of a club that keeps changing coaches and simply cannot make any progresss. What the club needs is to get stable and then build, but nah! Another successful business man who brains turns to shit, once he enters the football world.

Hughton good enough to stabilize the club, good enough to be the number two man at Spurs for years, good enough to get them back into the Prem and get quality results against the top-flite clubs on the road... good enough to get them to 11th in the table their first year back... but not good enough to lead them forward.  Nonsense... especially since the rumored "more experienced" manager they have in mind is Alan Pardew.

The Guardian is similarly unimpressed and unconvinced (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/06/the-fiver-chris-hughton-sacked).
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: MEP on December 06, 2010, 12:23:19 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex
Black and Irish double whammy
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Bakes on December 06, 2010, 12:25:18 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex

is not coz he black
is because mike ashley is a twat

Thank you... they didn't have to give him the job.  If his race was an issue they they wouldn't have hired him in the first place.  Is like Tenorsaw (ah think it was) say in the EPL thread, they fancy theyself to be a 'big club' so they letting their deluded assessment of their worth affect their sound judgment.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: CK1 on December 06, 2010, 12:55:53 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex

is not coz he black
is because mike ashley is a twat

Thank you... they didn't have to give him the job.  If his race was an issue they they wouldn't have hired him in the first place.  Is like Tenorsaw (ah think it was) say in the EPL thread, they fancy theyself to be a 'big club' so they letting their deluded assessment of their worth affect their sound judgment.

Please don't take that sentiment for granted. We only good enough to do the bull**** work, then they will replace us and bring some old recycled trash. What the hell they mean by looking for a more experienced manager ??? If he could get the axe for this reason then Latas could get axe too ???
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: giggsy11 on December 06, 2010, 01:17:22 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex

is not coz he black
is because mike ashley is a twat

Thank you... they didn't have to give him the job.  If his race was an issue they they wouldn't have hired him in the first place.  Is like Tenorsaw (ah think it was) say in the EPL thread, they fancy theyself to be a 'big club' so they letting their deluded assessment of their worth affect their sound judgment.

Please don't take that sentiment for granted. We only good enough to do the bull**** work, then they will replace us and bring some old recycled trash. What the hell they mean by looking for a more experienced manager ??? If he could get the axe for this reason then Latas could get axe too ???


It appears the trend when giving minorities a chance to manage or be in charge is when the team or situation is lower than low.  Even with the USA's president elect after Bush left a mess! I also think it is an easy way to say hey we gave them a chance but the question is would you give them the same chance and trust them with the opportunity if the team was at the top and in a position to go from strength to strength?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kicker on December 06, 2010, 01:18:52 PM
Liked Hughton's demeanor....sad news

Don't know much about his managerial skills but I get the sense that Newcastle fans loved him...

He has a decent resume- I'm sure he will bounce back well. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 06, 2010, 01:20:40 PM
Very unfair indeed. Hughton stabilized the club after much turmoil. Newcastle is a prime example of a club that keeps changing coaches and simply cannot make any progresss. What the club needs is to get stable and then build, but nah! Another successful business man who brains turns to shit, once he enters the football world.

Hughton good enough to stabilize the club, good enough to be the number two man at Spurs for years, good enough to get them back into the Prem and get quality results against the top-flite clubs on the road... good enough to get them to 11th in the table their first year back... but not good enough to lead them forward.  Nonsense... especially since the rumored "more experienced" manager they have in mind is Alan Pardew.

The Guardian is similarly unimpressed and unconvinced (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/06/the-fiver-chris-hughton-sacked).

Pardew!!??? The same man who say Tevez and Macherano can't play in the EPL  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: kicker on December 06, 2010, 01:22:29 PM

Black and Irish double whammy

He represented Ireland as a player but he's English.  Listen to his accent. 
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Observer on December 06, 2010, 01:29:59 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex

is not coz he black
is because mike ashley is a twat

Thank you... they didn't have to give him the job.  If his race was an issue they they wouldn't have hired him in the first place.  Is like Tenorsaw (ah think it was) say in the EPL thread, they fancy theyself to be a 'big club' so they letting their deluded assessment of their worth affect their sound judgment.

Please don't take that sentiment for granted. We only good enough to do the bull**** work, then they will replace us and bring some old recycled trash. What the hell they mean by looking for a more experienced manager ??? If he could get the axe for this reason then Latas could get axe too ???


It appears the trend when giving minorities a chance to manage or be in charge is when the team or situation is lower than low.  Even with the USA's president elect after Bush left a mess! I also think it is an easy way to say hey we gave them a chance but the question is would you give them the same chance and trust them with the opportunity if the team was at the top and in a position to go from strength to strength?

We will disagree on this one. Newcastle is a club with a history of fack ups when it comes to managers. From 2000 to present they have had Robson, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, keegan, Kinnear, Shearer, Hughton
Shearer, was not confident to take charge in  the Championship. Houghton stepped up and proved his worth. My bet is Newcastle will take some abuse by the media for this move.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Bakes on December 06, 2010, 01:31:35 PM

We will disagree on this one. Newcastle is a club with a history of fack ups when it comes to managers. From 2000 to present they have had Robson, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, keegan, Kinnear, Shearer, Hughton
Shearer, was not confident to take charge in  the Championship. Houghton stepped up and proved his worth. My bet is Newcastle will take some abuse by the media for this move.

They done getting pounded by fans and press alike.

EDIT: Ian Darke providing commentary on ESPN's broadcast of the Liverpool v. Villa match:

" 'Staggering' is how you'd describe the sacking of Chris Hughton... I don't think anyone can comprehend how a man who has done so well could be fired by Mike Ashley".
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: giggsy11 on December 06, 2010, 02:05:43 PM
I will say its because he's black that's who vex could vex

is not coz he black
is because mike ashley is a twat

Thank you... they didn't have to give him the job.  If his race was an issue they they wouldn't have hired him in the first place.  Is like Tenorsaw (ah think it was) say in the EPL thread, they fancy theyself to be a 'big club' so they letting their deluded assessment of their worth affect their sound judgment.

Please don't take that sentiment for granted. We only good enough to do the bull**** work, then they will replace us and bring some old recycled trash. What the hell they mean by looking for a more experienced manager ??? If he could get the axe for this reason then Latas could get axe too ???


It appears the trend when giving minorities a chance to manage or be in charge is when the team or situation is lower than low.  Even with the USA's president elect after Bush left a mess! I also think it is an easy way to say hey we gave them a chance but the question is would you give them the same chance and trust them with the opportunity if the team was at the top and in a position to go from strength to strength?

We will disagree on this one. Newcastle is a club with a history of fack ups when it comes to managers. From 2000 to present they have had Robson, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, keegan, Kinnear, Shearer, Hughton
Shearer, was not confident to take charge in  the Championship. Houghton stepped up and proved his worth. My bet is Newcastle will take some abuse by the media for this move.

Observer my stated opinon were geared toward him being hired for the position in the first place and how it appears that minorities get their chances when situations are lower than low or by default.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 06, 2010, 02:19:44 PM
Babel was francoment offside!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 06, 2010, 02:22:54 PM

Monday December 6


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Villa - 2:55 pm ESPN2/ESPN3.com


Great positive start by Liverpool... 2-0 18'

Skrtel with the header off the corner, back into the penalty area where David N'gog put it away with a flying close-range header 15'.  Two minutes later Ryan Babel took a chipped pass over the Villa backline from Lucas... looked to be a step offside but the flag stayed down and Brad Friedel was beaten for the second time to start the game.

No Sidwell, no Reo-Coker, no Carew for Villa... but Liverpool are also playing without Gerard, Torres (birth of his child) and Carragher.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: trinikev on December 06, 2010, 02:36:09 PM
Looking like Martin Jol might be next in line. He just resigned from Ajax...
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: fish on December 06, 2010, 02:40:40 PM
Jol will be a good manager, however, Newcastle have a knack for flickin changin managers too quick.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: injunchile on December 06, 2010, 03:24:23 PM
Jack get the man quick and if he say no - Jol from Ajax
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on December 06, 2010, 03:28:33 PM

Monday December 6


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Villa - 2:55 pm ESPN2/ESPN3.com


Great positive start by Liverpool... 2-0 18'

Skrtel with the header off the corner, back into the penalty area where David N'gog put it away with a flying close-range header 15'.  Two minutes later Ryan Babel took a chipped pass over the Villa backline from Lucas... looked to be a step offside but the flag stayed down and Brad Friedel was beaten for the second time to start the game.

No Sidwell, no Reo-Coker, no Carew for Villa... but Liverpool are also playing without Gerard, Torres (birth of his child) and Carragher.

3-0 nice shot by maxi! seems to be a cakewalk for liverpool today. xaibi alonso has been spotted in the stands.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: KND2 on December 06, 2010, 03:38:33 PM
they should have keep him.

He was doing a great job with a mostly shit squad.

They fire him because he black and they do not want to risk a black man doing well as a manager in england.

look for them to get back into a relegation battle.

Because the players they have were over performing which is most likely due to coach motivation.

Now that he gone they will be disappointed and performances will drop.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 06, 2010, 03:54:39 PM
3-0 nice shot by maxi! seems to be a cakewalk for liverpool today. xaibi alonso has been spotted in the stands.

Macca was giving Xabi a little bit of good-natured stick... he said he finally got a little 4-day holiday and instead of going to the beach he comes to Liverpool, lol.  Nice touch by Xabi though, as noted by Ian Darke, it shows that he still has high regards for the club and the area.

As for Maxi's goal... sweet release by Reina to Maxi who made a nice early pass to N'gog before getting it back.  Nice counter by Liverpool... great composed finishing by Maxi. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on December 06, 2010, 04:12:45 PM
3-0 nice shot by maxi! seems to be a cakewalk for liverpool today. xaibi alonso has been spotted in the stands.

Macca was giving Xabi a little bit of good-natured stick... he said he finally got a little 4-day holiday and instead of going to the beach he comes to Liverpool, lol.  Nice touch by Xabi though, as noted by Ian Darke, it shows that he still has high regards for the club and the area.

As for Maxi's goal... sweet release by Reina to Maxi who made a nice early pass to N'gog before getting it back.  Nice counter by Liverpool... great composed finishing by Maxi. 

Lol you can tell he misses Liverpool. We miss him as well. Great game though by Liverpool minus our three key players in Carragher, Gerrard and Torres. I think it's Reina's 100th clean sheet for Liverpool also right?

For Aston Villa what can i say. They were over-matched. I like how that kid delalphonso (don't know how you spell it) plays. Still a bit raw but has great potential.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: theworm2345 on December 06, 2010, 05:03:30 PM
they should have keep him.

He was doing a great job with a mostly shit squad.

They fire him because he black and they do not want to risk a black man doing well as a manager in england.

look for them to get back into a relegation battle.

Because the players they have were over performing which is most likely due to coach motivation.

Now that he gone they will be disappointed and performances will drop.
More likely because he's Irish
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 06, 2010, 05:09:22 PM
3-0 nice shot by maxi! seems to be a cakewalk for liverpool today. xaibi alonso has been spotted in the stands.

Macca was giving Xabi a little bit of good-natured stick... he said he finally got a little 4-day holiday and instead of going to the beach he comes to Liverpool, lol.  Nice touch by Xabi though, as noted by Ian Darke, it shows that he still has high regards for the club and the area.

As for Maxi's goal... sweet release by Reina to Maxi who made a nice early pass to N'gog before getting it back.  Nice counter by Liverpool... great composed finishing by Maxi. 

Lol you can tell he misses Liverpool. We miss him as well. Great game though by Liverpool minus our three key players in Carragher, Gerrard and Torres. I think it's Reina's 100th clean sheet for Liverpool also right?

For Aston Villa what can i say. They were over-matched. I like how that kid delalphonso (don't know how you spell it) plays. Still a bit raw but has great potential.

Yeah I took the talk of Reina's clean sheet over to the Liverpool thread, but yeah... fantastic accomplishment. 

Delfouneso looks the real deal.  First time I've ever seen him play to be honest but I was real impressed.  England have a promising young player on they hands if he continues to improve.  He's only 19, but given the rate at which some of the top-flight players develop... time for him to start getting more first-team run.
Title: Re: Boss Chris Hughton sacked by Newcastle United
Post by: Red Mango on December 06, 2010, 06:08:36 PM
SHOCKER!!!

102 points...

Straight back into the Prem after one year in the Championship...

11 points clear of their nearest rival...

taken points off of Arsenal, at the Emerates(!)

stick 5 past Sunderland who arguably have a world beater in Asamoah Gyan in their unit...

I was stunned by (the harshness of) Ashley's decision..

Good luck to the fella...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 09, 2010, 08:05:43 AM
Pardew hired  ??? Ashley wanted a more experienced coach, so he goes for Pardew, who has a grand total of 17 months experience in the Premier League  :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 09, 2010, 08:43:57 AM
My newcastle partner now send me this message:

If Alan Pardew is the answer - What the f**k's the question?

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 09, 2010, 08:54:17 AM
My newcastle partner now send me this message:

If Alan Pardew is the answer - What the f**k's the question?



The question may be-how can you f^ck up stable situation because the owner getting itchy?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2010, 12:30:55 PM
Pardew hired  ??? Ashley wanted a more experienced coach, so he goes for Pardew, who has a grand total of 17 months experience in the Premier League  :devil:

Ah tell allyuh dem jokers was going with Pardew... the same imps who park Tevez and Mascherano on de bench and refuse to gih dem run.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 09, 2010, 01:28:34 PM
Pardew hired  ??? Ashley wanted a more experienced coach, so he goes for Pardew, who has a grand total of 17 months experience in the Premier League  :devil:

Ah tell allyuh dem jokers was going with Pardew... the same imps who park Tevez and Mascherano on de bench and refuse to gih dem run.

I thought yuh fart and say Pardon I eh realize is Pardew yuh say  ;D
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 09, 2010, 01:37:44 PM
Pardew loves his English players; watch how he f*cks with the African midfielder who has been holding in down for Newcastle. The simpleton will probably try to build the team around Joey Barton!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 11, 2010, 04:59:56 PM
Breaking News

Carlos Tevez hands in Transfer Request

"Carlos Tevez story is true . . written transfer request, considering quitting football altogether, homesick and unhappy #mcfc"

and

Liverpool lost again... haha
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: soccerman on December 11, 2010, 06:18:27 PM
Yes dread I was just reading that Tevez scenario just now. I noticed he didn't even dress for today's game, plus he might be considering retirement since he's not getting along with Mancini and is missing his daughters back home. I thought he was having an excellent season, I even had him as captain for my fantasy team so now that's no points from him for the week :cursing:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 11, 2010, 06:22:04 PM
Yes dread I was just reading that Tevez scenario just now. I noticed he didn't even dress for today's game, plus he might be considering retirement since he's not getting along with Mancini and is missing his daughters back home. I thought he was having an excellent season, I even had him as captain for my fantasy team so now that's no points from him for the week :cursing:

apparently he was banned today..I guess he picked up a 5th yellow card

What a idiot though... thank god we got rid of him in the end.. he's a f**king circus... quality player but too much negative press

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on December 11, 2010, 07:12:11 PM
So he want a transfer but to where?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 11, 2010, 08:17:36 PM
So he want a transfer but to where?

maybe he will go back argentina to be closer to his family.
Cyah vex with a man for that.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2010, 08:34:49 PM
apparently he was banned today..I guess he picked up a 5th yellow card

What a idiot though... thank god we got rid of him in the end.. he's a f**king circus... quality player but too much negative press


Sorta like Wayne Rooney... wouldn't you say?

The hypocrisy never ends... you ManU fans still acting like jilted lovers just because Tevez tell allyuh squad tuh fack off, lol
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dumpalewie on December 11, 2010, 09:25:02 PM
I have nothing but ill-will towards Newcastle. I do believe that being black worked against him in addition to them being delusional about themselves.

The EPL is worse than the NFL when it comes to minorities in management. Secondly, minority managers are never given time to prove themselves. Ask John Barnes, Paul Ince and now Chris Houghton.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 11, 2010, 09:51:30 PM
apparently he was banned today..I guess he picked up a 5th yellow card

What a idiot though... thank god we got rid of him in the end.. he's a f**king circus... quality player but too much negative press


Sorta like Wayne Rooney... wouldn't you say?

The hypocrisy never ends... you ManU fans still acting like jilted lovers just because Tevez tell allyuh squad tuh fack off, lol

I know u guys are experts on that, just ask Owen next time he steps on Anfield .  ;D
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2010, 10:33:13 PM
apparently he was banned today..I guess he picked up a 5th yellow card

What a idiot though... thank god we got rid of him in the end.. he's a f**king circus... quality player but too much negative press


Sorta like Wayne Rooney... wouldn't you say?

The hypocrisy never ends... you ManU fans still acting like jilted lovers just because Tevez tell allyuh squad tuh fack off, lol

I know u guys are experts on that, just ask Owen next time he steps on Anfield .  ;D


Owen always got love from Liverpool fans... I dunno what you talking about.  If he get booed because he wearing a ManU shirt how dat compares to the outright hate allyuh harboring all over messageboards for Tevez?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 12, 2010, 08:27:24 AM
I have nothing but ill-will towards Newcastle. I do believe that being black worked against him in addition to them being delusional about themselves.

The EPL is worse than the NFL when it comes to minorities in management. Secondly, minority managers are never given time to prove themselves. Ask John Barnes, Paul Ince and now Chris Houghton.

I have a lot of respect for Houghton and what he achieved and do believe he was unfairly treated. Ince and Barnes well I am not sure. Barnes was way out of his depth at Celtic, jumping straight into management at that level and after losing streak and then in the Scottish Cup to  Inverness Caledonia Thistle 3-1, the writing was on the wall. As for Ince he won 3 games out of 17 and the fans began a campaign to get rid of him. Most managers would get the sack under those circumstances. Just take your mind back the Ramos at Spurs, takes Spurs out of relegation battle, bring their first trophy since the 90's and qualification to UEFA. Then the following season was sacked after 8 games.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kev on December 12, 2010, 09:15:00 AM
I have nothing but ill-will towards Newcastle. I do believe that being black worked against him in addition to them being delusional about themselves.

The EPL is worse than the NFL when it comes to minorities in management. Secondly, minority managers are never given time to prove themselves. Ask John Barnes, Paul Ince and now Chris Houghton.

Think your reading too much into it tbh.  I don't know Ashley but it has been obvious for a long time he didn't want Hughton, He also didn't want Alladyce. Pardew is something like the 9th manager is just over 5 years (not counting stand ins), its worse than even money Pardew will be the manager this time next year. 

I think Barnes desrved the sack and Ince was in danger of relegation which most teams sack their manager.  He wasn't handling it very well and got himself a bit pananoid, heard him since and seems to be much more sane about it. 

I am sure I read somewhere that there aren't that many black/coloured (not sure what is PC anymore so sorry if I offended anybody) people taking coaching badges but could be wrong so don't quote me on it. 

When it comes to replacing managers the top clubs tend to go foriegn, and the rest seem to just get on the same old merrygoround with the same old names switching seats. 

The normal complaint is that young British managers (not white) don't get a chance, the truth is the clubs more likely to take a chance are also the clubs that can with a bad run get themselves into relegation trouble.  I jsut don't think its a "colour / ethnic" problem, its a game problem imho.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 12, 2010, 09:47:59 AM
apparently he was banned today..I guess he picked up a 5th yellow card

What a idiot though... thank god we got rid of him in the end.. he's a f**king circus... quality player but too much negative press


Sorta like Wayne Rooney... wouldn't you say?

The hypocrisy never ends... you ManU fans still acting like jilted lovers just because Tevez tell allyuh squad tuh fack off, lol


Owen always got love from Liverpool fans... I dunno what you talking about.  If he get booed because he wearing a ManU shirt how dat compares to the outright hate allyuh harboring all over messageboards for Tevez?
I know u guys are experts on that, just ask Owen next time he steps on Anfield .  ;D

he was at new castle b4 he came to Utd. Check back at his receptions.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on December 12, 2010, 10:01:17 AM
Well.....i eh suprised by Tevez...somebody telling me he always said he wanted to retire around 28. And as that person also said....."He's won virtually everything except a World Cup and a Copa America"

Quote
Individual:
Silver Olimpia (Argentine Footballer of the Year): 2003, 2004
Golden Olimpia (Argentine Sportsperson of the Year): 2004
Placar Bola de Ouro: 2005
South American Footballer of the Year: 2003, 2004, 2005

Argentina:
Olympics (Also won the Olympic Golden Boot)
U20 World Cup

Boca:
Apertura (league title)
Copa Libertadores (Champions League of South America, also won MVP of the tournament)
Copa Sudamericana (Europa League of South America)
Intercontinental Cup

Corinthians:
Brasileiro League title (Also won the Brasileiro Best Player award)

Manchester United:
Two premier league titles
Champions League
Club World Cup

But i hear his agent was trying for an improved contract..so he could be doing a rooney.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 10:01:46 AM
Drogba on the bench as is Fat Frank!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 10:16:31 AM
Well.....i eh suprised by Tevez...somebody telling me he always said he wanted to retire around 28. And as that person also said....."He's won virtually everything except a World Cup and a Copa America"

Quote
Individual:
Silver Olimpia (Argentine Footballer of the Year): 2003, 2004
Golden Olimpia (Argentine Sportsperson of the Year): 2004
Placar Bola de Ouro: 2005
South American Footballer of the Year: 2003, 2004, 2005

Argentina:
Olympics (Also won the Olympic Golden Boot)
U20 World Cup

Boca:
Apertura (league title)
Copa Libertadores (Champions League of South America, also won MVP of the tournament)
Copa Sudamericana (Europa League of South America)
Intercontinental Cup

Corinthians:
Brasileiro League title (Also won the Brasileiro Best Player award)

Manchester United:
Two premier league titles
Champions League
Club World Cup

But i hear his agent was trying for an improved contract..so he could be doing a rooney.

And or trying to force Mancini out.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: 100% Barataria on December 12, 2010, 10:18:14 AM
Terry look like a statue dey boy, goal spurs
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 10:18:45 AM
Chelski have statues plying in the middle of defense or wat or dey wearing heavy tugs today?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 10:25:41 AM
It seems like obi mikel does be in every shot when a goal score against chelski
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 12, 2010, 10:30:10 AM

he was at new castle b4 he came to Utd. Check back at his receptions.

Oh he was at Newcastle after he left Liverpool?  Well look I never knew that.  ::)

-----------------------------------------------


Spurs up on Chelsea 1-0 (Pavlyuchenko 16') after 25'


Essien is a fantastic player... but he either has a very nasty streak, or is extremely careless with his challenges.  I surprise he eh break somebody foot by now.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 12, 2010, 10:56:33 AM
Well.....i eh suprised by Tevez...somebody telling me he always said he wanted to retire around 28. And as that person also said....."He's won virtually everything except a World Cup and a Copa America"

Quote
Individual:
Silver Olimpia (Argentine Footballer of the Year): 2003, 2004
Golden Olimpia (Argentine Sportsperson of the Year): 2004
Placar Bola de Ouro: 2005
South American Footballer of the Year: 2003, 2004, 2005

Argentina:
Olympics (Also won the Olympic Golden Boot)
U20 World Cup

Boca:
Apertura (league title)
Copa Libertadores (Champions League of South America, also won MVP of the tournament)
Copa Sudamericana (Europa League of South America)
Intercontinental Cup

Corinthians:
Brasileiro League title (Also won the Brasileiro Best Player award)

Manchester United:
Two premier league titles
Champions League
Club World Cup

But i hear his agent was trying for an improved contract..so he could be doing a rooney.

And or trying to force Mancini out.

seems sir alex knew what he was doing when he was reluctant to buy him.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 12, 2010, 11:29:37 AM
Spurs very profligate with their chances... still up 1-0 in the 69', but Ancellotti desperate, Chelsea going all out to get the equalizer and leaving theyself vulnerable at the back.  Spurs could have them on the counter at any time but just can't seem to get it together in the final third.

... well, as I type Drogba equalizes.

Right thru Gomes... 1-1 70'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 11:31:27 AM
Crouch is a shithound, the man is a momentun killer! Why Spurs want tuh play tuh Chelski's strength of playin balls in the air versus keep it on the ground against the lead feet of Chelski's d men!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 12, 2010, 11:52:46 AM
Penalty!

Gomes redemption!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 12, 2010, 11:57:33 AM
I thought it was a harsh penalty... or at least the result would have been really harsh to Spurs.  Nonetheless I was full prepared to laugh at Harry, he got it real wrong by taking off Defoe to sub on Crouch.  Nothing against Crouch, but Harry was hoping that some of the hurried clearances from the back would reach Crouch.  He essentially conceded the attack to Chelsea there, rather than taking it to them as they had been all game.

Happy that Gomes got a chance to redeem himself.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 12, 2010, 11:58:24 AM
I said on another thread that Essien struggled mainly due to match fitness. And Chelski midfield looked always outnumbered.

Anelka pull stones

Not the best football game, but it was packed with excitement

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 12, 2010, 12:50:24 PM
I said on another thread that Essien struggled mainly due to match fitness. And Chelski midfield looked always outnumbered.

Anelka pull stones

Not the best football game, but it was packed with excitement



Your eye sharper than mine... but I thought Essien had a good game.  Palacios and Modric struggled against Essien, Mikel and Ramires in the middle, Essien in particular seemed everywhere.  His yellow for the foul on Modric was harsh, but considering what he got away with on Bale... deserved in the end.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 01:26:45 PM
This guy is serious drama oui!


Manchester City news-Tevez to lift lid on reasons for quitting.

- December 12, 2010 By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent

Carlos Tevez is so adamant he wants to quit Manchester City that he will go public with his reasons which will surely make any decision to force him to stay untenable.


Tevez is now also livid at the club's statement insinuating that he has been manipulated into this decision by his representatives. The Argentine is set to issue a statement indicating the reasons behind his personal decision to quit Eastlands.


And it will open up enormous wounds, when he reveals information about how the club is run, alleged promises made to him, and claims that such promises have been broken.

Tevez rejected a one-off bonus to stay for the season, the biggest ever offered to a single player, but he turned it down because nearly six months ago, he had virtually made up his mind he wanted to quit the club.

Bitter resentment that has been bubbling just below the surface is about to explode and the ramifications could be immense for City. Tevez paints a picture of disarray behind the scenes at one of the wealthiest clubs in the world, if not the richest.

It likely to make Tevez ever playing again for the club virtually impossible, and certainly unthinkable beyond the January transfer window and will intensify the pressure on manager Roberto Mancini and also the senior management team behind the scenes.

ESPNsoccernet has been given a full insight into the reasons why Tevez, the team's captain and talisman, wants to leave.

Tevez has shocked the title challengers by submitting a formal transfer request, which has brought a reaction from City in turning it down, and now Tevez will react by going public on his reasons for wanting to leave.


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Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on December 12, 2010, 01:46:59 PM
Real Drama queen ting. Fergie looking more and more like he was right.

Although the real ting is....de money to buy him outright was only available after Ronaldo got sold. When an offer was made to him...he done make up he mind he wasnt staying cuz dey take too long. So......dis kinda keeping in character.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Daft Trini on December 12, 2010, 03:59:50 PM
Real Drama queen ting. Fergie looking more and more like he was right.

Although the real ting is....de money to buy him outright was only available after Ronaldo got sold. When an offer was made to him...he done make up he mind he wasnt staying cuz dey take too long. So......dis kinda keeping in character.



Factor in his inability to speak english and add that to the equation....
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on December 12, 2010, 04:44:09 PM
Real Drama queen ting. Fergie looking more and more like he was right.

Although the real ting is....de money to buy him outright was only available after Ronaldo got sold. When an offer was made to him...he done make up he mind he wasnt staying cuz dey take too long. So......dis kinda keeping in character.



Factor in his inability to speak english and add that to the equation....

Yep. Buh still...i think he Evra and Park used to get along. Dunno how. I reading somewhere that he STILL eh know dat much english.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 12, 2010, 05:03:24 PM
  Home U.K. Home News  Carlos Tevez explains his reasons for wanting to leave Manchester City after club reject written transfer request

By Ian Ladyman and Lee Clayton
Last updated at 9:32 PM on 12th December 2010

Carlos Tevez turned his fire on Manchester City Executive chairman Garry Cook on Sunday night as he outlined his reasons for wanting to leave the club.
Speaking for the first time since his dramatic decision to ask for a transfer last week, Tevez - on a club-approved holiday in Tenerife - issued a statement in which he revealed he has no problem with manager Roberto Mancini.

In the statement, Tevez:

Repeated his desire to leave
Revealed his relationship with the club is 'beyond repair'
Insisted the decision to go is his alone and that he has not been influenced to ask to leave.

Tevez, who could walk away from football if City insist on holding him to his three and a half year contract, said he had spent 'many hours thinking it through' and admitted he had wanted to go last summer. He said that he has rejected a new contract and insisted his desire to leave is 'not about money.'

On Sunday night, Chelsea, with a new transfer budget for manager Carlos Ancelotti, were believed to be monitoring the situation. 

City had earlier attacked Tevez's mentor Kia Joorabchian. They say Tevez is the highest paid player at the club and claim he is being influenced to leave. That provoked an angry reaction from Tevez.
I have not been influenced by anyone else in making this decision,' he said. 'It is something I have felt for some time and have spent many hours thinking this through. I wanted to leave in the summer, but was influenced then and convinced to return to the club. Sadly, my feelings have not changed. I hugely resent the management's suggestions that I have been unduly influenced by others.
'I am disappointed that the management should now see fit to try to portray the situation in another light. My relationship with certain executives and individuals at the club  has broken down and is now beyond repair. I do not wish to expand on this at this stage. They know, because I have told them.'
 Happier times: Tevez is all smiles upon his arrival at Eastlands in July 2009
Tevez thanked the fans for their support during his time at the club, adding: 'Since signing for Manchester city, I have enjoyed playing for the supporters. They have welcomed me to the club and I regret that it has come to this. They deserve success as reward for their passionate and patient support. The club is very fortunate to have supporters like this

'Anybody who has watched me play for Manchester City, cannot question my commitment and passion for the club whenever I have worn the shirt.'
Tevez, who informed the club of his decision last Wednesday, continued: 'I can confirm I have handed a transfer request to the chairman of Manchester City Football Club, And now I need to clear my head and think because this is an important part of my career. My feelings have not changed and it is regrettable we have reached this situation.
I could have signed an improved contract, offered by the club for this season, however this decision is not about money. I have made that clear to both the board and the management on several occasions.' City deny his version of events relating to his contract offer.
 Leading by example? Tevez was handed the captaincy at the start of the season - but has revealed he wanted to leave the club back in the summer
He continued: 'The owner has been very generous with what he has offered to me. I would like to thank the owner Sheik Mansour for his understanding and support.'
In a surprising move, Tevez supported manager Roberto Mancini and said: 'I wish to clarify that I have no personal issue with the manager Roberto Mancini.'

With Mancini in Italy to visit his father and undergo some minor medical treatment on his eye, the City manager was being kept informed of developments by his coaching staff.
One of the things he is considering in the short-term is whether to relieve Tevez of the captaincy. In the longer term, City have rejected Tevez's request and insist he won't be sold when the transfer window opens in January.

The club feel it is Joorabchian who is driving the matter, though, and came out fighting on Sunday by revealing that Tevez is already the club's highest paid player.

A City statement said: 'The club remain disappointed and particularly with the actions of Carlos' representative.
'The written transfer request is in stark contrast to Carlos' stated position in public.
'Significantly, over recent months, the club has also received numerous requests from Carlos' representative to renegotiate and improve his playing contract as well as more recently a request to extend that contract by another year.
'This has not been granted. He is the highest paid player at the club.'

Tevez was initially due to be included in the City squad that travels to Italy for a Europa League dead rubber against Juventus on Thursday. It is now thought that he will not go, nor will any of the team that won at West Ham on Saturday.

 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Cantona007 on December 13, 2010, 01:19:35 AM
apparently he was banned today..I guess he picked up a 5th yellow card

What a idiot though... thank god we got rid of him in the end.. he's a f**king circus... quality player but too much negative press


Sorta like Wayne Rooney... wouldn't you say?

The hypocrisy never ends... you ManU fans still acting like jilted lovers just because Tevez tell allyuh squad tuh fack off, lol

I thought the story was that the evil Ferguson showed him no love and told Teveth to fack off?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Big Magician on December 13, 2010, 05:51:46 AM
Modric rocks..
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Touches on December 13, 2010, 11:27:43 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/blackburn_rovers/9283395.stm


Sam Allardyce leaves Blackburn with immediate effect

Allardyce took over at Ewood Park in December 2008

Blackburn announced they have sacked manager Sam Allardyce.

Allardyce was relieved of his duties along with his assistant Neil McDonald by the club's new owners, the Venky's Group from India.

Blackburn have lost three out of their last five games, including a 2-1 defeat by his former club Bolton on Sunday.

"We have taken this decision as part of our wider plans and ambitions for the club," Rovers said in a statement on their website on Monday.

Rovers are currently 13th in the Premier League, five points above the relegation zone.

Current first-team coach Steve Kean will take temporary charge of the club.

Allardyce joined Blackburn in December 2008 and guided the Lancashire club to a respectable 10th place in the Premier League last season.

Former Blackburn midfielder Robbie Savage said he was "shocked" to learn of Allardyce's departure from Ewood Park.

"I know the chairman John Williams well but it's obviously the owners who have made this decision," the former Wales international told BBC Radio 5 live.

"Big Sam has a big ego and maybe they clashed.

"He was doing a good job, what do people expect? He will be very disappointed."

The Rao family completed their 43m takeover of Rovers through their newly formed company, Venky's London Limited, on 19 October.

And Venky's chairwoman Anuradha Desai had told the BBC last month that the group had "promised manager Allardyce funds to spend in the January transfer window".

But in a statement on Monday, the club said: "We would like to put on record our thanks to Mr Allardyce for his contribution to Blackburn Rovers Football Club."
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: College on December 13, 2010, 11:57:03 AM
Tis the season...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 13, 2010, 12:52:52 PM
I am sure dey looking for dey shitty and ugly side tuh play sexy football!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Change on December 13, 2010, 12:53:08 PM
ANY LIVE ONLINE LINKS FOR TODAY'S GAME ARSENAL VS MAN U???
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on December 13, 2010, 02:07:13 PM
atdhe.net

Men vs boys today, maybe the boys can win this time.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 13, 2010, 02:55:24 PM
Pretty even first half.
Much like the Arsenal- Chelsea game. arsenal don't look outmatched. Another class goal though. This rounds they might just be badlucky.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on December 13, 2010, 02:56:36 PM
Arsenal kinda scrambling at the back.  They not sure of themselves.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2010, 02:58:15 PM
arsenal resorting to kicking  and fouling we players to stop we knock.
 
Webb tolerate it as much as he could.


Apart from that, everyone seems to be slipping.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on December 13, 2010, 03:29:13 PM
Wha Rio was doin with his foot extended like that?
Nasty play.

That is a harsh way to concede a penalty.

ROONEY HITS IT INTO ORBIT!!!!! lol that was a bad miss.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 13, 2010, 03:32:27 PM
Shit Penalty!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 13, 2010, 03:33:08 PM
arsenal resorting to kicking  and fouling we players to stop we knock.
 
Webb tolerate it as much as he could.


Apart from that, everyone seems to be slipping.


As I said elsewhere... you does only see what yuh want to see.  At one point some years ago I made the argument that Howard Webb is the best referee in the EPL.  Well is either things real change or I was wrong, because Webb is horrible, and worse, prone to being influenced, particularly at Old Trafford.  I won't even bring up the Derby against City last year when he fish the extra 6 mins out he ass to favor Utd.  Now Rio come in with ah de Jong specialty and rip ah 8-inch hole in Sagna shirt as the studs connect tuh mid-riff.  Webb wave play on like nutten happen.  How de ass ah man jump to head ah ball and lead with ah high foot and you ent blow nutten?


--------------------

Now he award a shit penalty against Clichy.  Ball kicked tuh hand while the man on de ground... what he supposed to do... disappear?

Justice... God doh like ugly.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 13, 2010, 03:33:23 PM
Karma!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 13, 2010, 04:03:20 PM
Webb is a weak referee even though he is FIFA and UEFA blue eye boy.

That being said ManU deserve the result today. Stay compact challenge Arsenal to pick you apart with passing & Arsenal could not not do it. Arsenal were too slow.

Well taken goal by Park
Best Roonie game to date
Best Anderson game to date


Two central defenders and Sagna looked solid.
Good night for the young keeper.


As I said in an earlier thread Clichy allow way too many crosses to enter the box.
The Clichy back back like he sword fighting, till Nani enter the penalty area and its now difficult to challenge.

Arshavin needs to be dropped! Does nno help defend and looked off the pace.
Young Wilshire looked off the pace
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 13, 2010, 04:04:56 PM
Not the greatest game. United score first and then play like Bolton for the rest of the game.
Arsenal had no ideas and never seriously troubled Van Der Sar.

Arshavin pressing too much. Chamakh was out of it. Nasri too, out on the wing and out of the game.

Wenger should have put in Walcott earlier. I think and Van-Persie/Fabregas subs was just just hoping they produce some magic.

Solid defensive effort by United. Getting back to the Ferdinand + Vidic + Van Der Sar = Clean Sheet formula.

In the end, the real talisman for United - Park did the job.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 13, 2010, 04:08:54 PM
I only saw the second half, but for me Clichy was boss... every time Nani challenge he shut him dong.  The only wrong foot was ah hand... and he really couldn't do nutten about that.

Arshavin juss steady Arse-shaving deez days... he star in nova.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2010, 04:34:55 PM
arsenal resorting to kicking  and fouling we players to stop we knock.
 
Webb tolerate it as much as he could.


Apart from that, everyone seems to be slipping.


As I said elsewhere... you does only see what yuh want to see.  At one point some years ago I made the argument that Howard Webb is the best referee in the EPL.  Well is either things real change or I was wrong, because Webb is horrible, and worse, prone to being influenced, particularly at Old Trafford.  I won't even bring up the Derby against City last year when he fish the extra 6 mins out he ass to favor Utd.  Now Rio come in with ah de Jong specialty and rip ah 8-inch hole in Sagna shirt as the studs connect tuh mid-riff.  Webb wave play on like nutten happen.  How de ass ah man jump to head ah ball and lead with ah high foot and you ent blow nutten?


--------------------

Now he award a shit penalty against Clichy.  Ball kicked tuh hand while the man on de ground... what he supposed to do... disappear?

Justice... God doh like ugly.

True that ...just look at liverpool.
anyhow, my post above was at half time b4 rio made that challenge, but u wouldnt know cause u didnt see the first half right?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 13, 2010, 04:37:08 PM
Desreved win.

Shyte call on the PK. Clichy got better in the 2nd half.

Arsenal looked like they forget you have to score in the game.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 13, 2010, 04:43:15 PM
True that ...just look at liverpool.
anyhow, my post above was at half time b4 rio made that challenge, but u wouldnt know cause u didnt see the first half right?

If you want to be funny go look in the mirror... although knowing you yuh'd probably probably try to ride the jackass staring back at yuh.

You making that post befor the Rio challenge doesn't hide the fact you are biased and incapable of offering anything objective when it comes to ManU.  I just finished watching the first half and it only proves what I was saying.  There's no way Webb could call some of them soft fouls, especially on Song, and let hatchetman Fletcher get away without a talking-to.  Oh, wait... they play at Old Trafford, so no real surprise.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Sando prince on December 13, 2010, 04:44:22 PM
Boy Man U looking good right now  ;D
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Fantastic on December 13, 2010, 04:49:11 PM
Aresenal look like dey coach does end dey practice after de possession drills. 5 pass get a point, first to 10 go home, de rest stay and work on juggling and looking pretty on de ball.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 13, 2010, 04:55:21 PM
Men vs Boys..again

We were quite good today..sharp,fast and hungry... we were unlucky not to score more..Nani's volley which passed by an inch..Nani's miss..Anderson's little chip(which was excellently saved) and Rooney's penalty and his chip in the end all could have been goals...Arsenal only had the one chance when Vidic blocked the Chamakh effort

Hopefully we can play at that level at the bridge...once we dont lose there we have a great chance of winning the title

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 13, 2010, 05:32:25 PM
Desreved win.

Shyte call on the PK. Clichy got better in the 2nd half.

Arsenal looked like they forget you have to score in the game.

Have to agree that Clichy did do better in the second half.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2010, 06:55:18 PM
Desreved win.

Shyte call on the PK. Clichy got better in the 2nd half.

Arsenal looked like they forget you have to score in the game.

Have to agree that Clichy did do better in the second half.

allyuh keeper play real good too.......
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2010, 06:56:16 PM
True that ...just look at liverpool.
anyhow, my post above was at half time b4 rio made that challenge, but u wouldnt know cause u didnt see the first half right?

If you want to be funny go look in the mirror... although knowing you yuh'd probably probably try to ride the jackass staring back at yuh.

You making that post befor the Rio challenge doesn't hide the fact you are biased and incapable of offering anything objective when it comes to ManU.  I just finished watching the first half and it only proves what I was saying.  There's no way Webb could call some of them soft fouls, especially on Song, and let hatchetman Fletcher get away without a talking-to.  Oh, wait... they play at Old Trafford, so no real surprise.
ouch.....i guess u done told me off......boohoo  :'( :'( :'(

Someone please chalk another victory for BnS.....
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 18, 2010, 04:18:34 AM
Lots of games on TV this weekend... as usual.

Home team listed first, all times EDT:


Saturday December 18

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/78/f3/0,,12306~3339128,00.gif)  Sunderland v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/67/f3/0,,12306~3339111,00.gif)  Bolton Wanderers- 7:30 am ESPN2/ESPN3.com

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/be/9f/0,,12306~6004670,00.gif)  Birmingham v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/76/92/0,,12306~8819318,00.gif)  Newcastle United- 9:55 am FSP

Birmingham has had LA Galaxy Edson Buddle on trial all of this past week and Manager, Alex McLeish has indicated that interest is strong enough that the trial has been extended to another week.  Remains to be seen if an agreement will be reached and whether Buddle will prove the talisman that Donovan was las winter for Everton, but still a very positive statement on Buddle's growth as a player the past couple seasons.  Certainly can't argue with 19 goals in 28 games for the Galaxy.

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif)  Arsenal v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c1/46/0,,12306~3688129,00.gif)  Stoke City- 10 am FSC/Fox Deportes

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6c/f3/0,,12306~3339116,00.gif)  Fulham - 12:30 pm FSC/Fox Deportes


Sunday December 19

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/73/92/0,,12306~8819315,00.gif)  Blackpool United v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/79/f3/0,,12306~3339129,00.gif)  Tottenham Hotspurs- 8:30 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/77/92/0,,12306~8819319,00.gif)  West Bromwich Albion v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c6/9f/0,,12306~6004678,00.gif)  Wolverhampton 10:30 am FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif)  Chelsea v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/72/f3/0,,12306~3339122,00.gif)  Manchester United- 11 am FSC/Fox Deportes


Monday December 20

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif)  Manchester City v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6b/f3/0,,12306~3339115,00.gif)  Everton- 2:55 pm ESPN2/ESPN3.com
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on December 18, 2010, 07:44:56 AM
Sunderland and Bolten Wanderers is quite a good game so far (half time) but i'm hearing from the comentators the ManU v Chelsea game tomorrow is cancelled due to weather. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Daft Trini on December 18, 2010, 09:58:22 AM
Sunderland and Bolten Wanderers is quite a good game so far (half time) but i'm hearing from the comentators the ManU v Chelsea game tomorrow is cancelled due to weather. 

yeah both london airports are closed... no flights in so I'm guessing the game is canceled also
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 18, 2010, 11:10:21 AM
Sunderland and Bolten Wanderers is quite a good game so far (half time) but i'm hearing from the comentators the ManU v Chelsea game tomorrow is cancelled due to weather. 

yeah both london airports are closed... no flights in so I'm guessing the game is canceled also

That might probably explain why I tune in expecting to see the Arsenal v. Stoke game and was seeing the Spurs v. Chelsea replay instead.

EDIT:

Just seeing this...

Heavy snow has forced the postponement of seven Barclays Premier League matches this weekend.  First to go was Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa, quickly followed by Liverpool v Fulham, Birmingham City v Newcastle, and Arsenal v Stoke- all on safety grounds.  This was followed by Sunday's fixture between Chelsea and Manchester United and later by the postponement of the Black Country derby between West Bromwich Albion and Wolverhampton Wanderers and Blackpool v Tottenham Hotspur.

http://www.premierleague.com/page/Headlines/0,,12306~2247283,00.html
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 18, 2010, 07:52:32 PM
Chelsea get away....
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dotless007 on December 19, 2010, 02:20:05 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg6o8w_same-old-arse_webcam#from=embed&start=202

same old arsenal always cheating.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 20, 2010, 02:09:51 PM
City's defense in early shambles.... 1-0 Everton (Cahill 5')


Tevez in the lineup... and supposedly he withdraw he transfer request.



EDIT: 

2-0 Toffees... Lleyton Baines curls in a right-footer from 20 yards.   Mancini apoplectic.


City have a lot of questions to be answered, and not only on the field.  41 players on the first team and only 11 can start at any one time.  Big name players like Adebayor, Lescott, Shea Givens, SWP, Roque Santa Cruz... cyah sniff the pitch.  Much agitation amongst the ranks.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 20, 2010, 02:20:31 PM
City's defense in early shambles.... 1-0 Everton (Cahill 5')


Tevez in the lineup... and supposedly he withdraw he transfer request.

Yuh mean 2-0. Baines in the 19th
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 20, 2010, 04:02:21 PM
Hahaha what a joke City are...they made sure the game went ahead..pulled out everything to have it on because if they won they would be top ahead of United by Christmas for the 1st time in 81 years

hahahahaha
This is how it feels to be Cityyyy
This is how it feels to be Smalllll
This is how it feels for your team to win nothing at allllll

Great stuff by Everton today..10 men from the 60th and City played with a 4 man defense till the 90th lollll
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 20, 2010, 05:18:28 PM
What a second goal by Everton  :applause:

City for all that money !!!!! Only three points different from when they fired Mark Hughes. The fact remains is that they did not buy to build a squad, they just bought. Like a child in a candy store. They still have potential though.

PS: For all the talk of Tevez, no one could ever accuse him of not doing everthing possible to win. That man is a beast
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 02:50:10 PM
Arsenal v. Chelsea on now on ESPN2/ESPN3.com


Arsenal up 1-0 at the half (Song 44') and playing all over Chelsea.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Peong on December 27, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
Arsenal keepin possession well. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:03:06 PM
Van Persie and Fabregas have a bigger influence on the game than their last outing.  Walcott making a difference and Djourou is doing ok so far.  Is Squillaci the new Senderos?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:03:48 PM
hopin arsenal do what they usually do and pop down in the second half
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:07:02 PM
Mikel off, Ramires on
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on December 27, 2010, 03:09:23 PM
hopin arsenal do what they usually do and pop down in the second half

 :devil: 2 nil
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:10:17 PM
Chelsea in a Mess!
Fire Ancelotti Now!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:11:09 PM
A Fine Mess!

Licks like fire!

3-0 Walcott!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on December 27, 2010, 03:11:16 PM
3 nil  :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 03:11:55 PM
hopin arsenal do what they usually do and pop down in the second half

If yuh eh look sharp they go pop Chelsea net down... 3-0.  Walcott with the assist to Fabregas on the second goal, then they switch roles on the third.

Chelsea still in de locker room.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:12:24 PM
We getting shredded   :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:12:31 PM
WDMC!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:13:10 PM
Is this the moment when Arsenal come of age? or is this the decline of Chelsea.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:13:34 PM
time for Roman to spend some forkin money  >:(
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:14:07 PM
Malouda off, Kalkuta on.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: AirMan on December 27, 2010, 03:14:56 PM
ah surprise nobody bump the Chelsea forever thread yet  :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:15:25 PM
The comeback begins!

3-1
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:15:48 PM
3 MOREEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:15:56 PM
time for Roman to spend some forkin money  >:(

Money for what?  Poor tactics and personnel choices.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:17:06 PM
ah surprise nobody bump the Chelsea forever thread yet  :devil:

We doh hide badman, we does take we cutarse big and bold. We doh use the excuse "we doh post when we watching the game". We getting we arse cut.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on December 27, 2010, 03:18:26 PM
ah surprise nobody bump the Chelsea forever thread yet  :devil:

We doh hide badman, we does take we cutarse big and bold. We doh use the excuse "we doh post when we watching the game". We getting we arse cut.

no alyuh does be at church  :devil:

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:19:58 PM
Final change
Bosingwa on for Ferreira
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 03:22:36 PM
time for Roman to spend some forkin money  >:(

Money for what?  Poor tactics and personnel choices.

That, plus Roman tired losing money.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:22:57 PM
Final change
Bosingwa on for Ferreira

That should have been in the first 5 minutes
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:31:39 PM
Walcott off, Diaby on.

Can they close up shop?  Is it even possible for an Arsenal side to do that?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:35:12 PM
Van Persie off, Chamakh on.

I eh go lie, you would never use Van Persie and speed in the same sentence eh.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:39:23 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:39:41 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

most definitely
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 03:40:50 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on December 27, 2010, 03:44:34 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
        I don't think he is a bad player is just that Chelsea is not the team for him,he not fitting in with those guys.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 27, 2010, 03:46:01 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
        I don't think he is a bad player is just that Chelsea is not the team for him,he not fitting in with those guys.

The man decision making rel poor. He don't exude any Braziliam attributes whatsoever.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:46:52 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
        I don't think he is a bad player is just that Chelsea is not the team for him,he not fitting in with those guys.

I don't think so either. We know South Americans tend to take time to settle in the EPL. (if ever). But that shot get me blasted vex!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 27, 2010, 03:48:56 PM
I think Djourou has done a decent job on Drogba in this game. I wonder if Anelka and his badmind would make a difference.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 27, 2010, 03:49:33 PM
Walcott off, Diaby on.

Can they close up shop?  Is it even possible for an Arsenal side to do that?

Why not.  Chelsea looking toothless right now. Just putting in that ball into the box and hoping.  No combination play around the box at all.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 27, 2010, 03:51:26 PM
Kakuta way off pace.  Not making the runs for ball played into box.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 03:52:57 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
        I don't think he is a bad player is just that Chelsea is not the team for him,he not fitting in with those guys.

Agreed... is just a poor signing.  Look Aquilani tearing it up for Juventus when he couldn't even come off the bench at Liverpool.  Too much expectations coupled with a poor fit= recipe for failure, true of both situations.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 27, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
        I don't think he is a bad player is just that Chelsea is not the team for him,he not fitting in with those guys.

he is a shithong coops. enough chance he get to show himself and fit in with the team. he not sayin anything. he is still playin like its his first game with chelsea
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Touches on December 27, 2010, 04:01:06 PM
Where Omar?

Is wood Chelsea collect and it coulda be 5...nasri chip and diaby looking for foot.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 27, 2010, 04:04:41 PM
aye boy..Arsenal didnt f**k it up, surprise surprise...  still going to be out the race by March

the further Chelsea are, the better
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on December 27, 2010, 04:40:41 PM
Leh me ask a question....what did chelsea buy ramieres to be really?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2010, 05:11:44 PM
Leh me ask a question....what did chelsea buy ramieres to be really?

De token Brazilian mantle piece... in which case they were highly successful.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: fari on December 27, 2010, 05:24:51 PM
Leh me ask a question....what did chelsea buy ramieres to be really?

when i see he coming on 2nd half i say nah this cyah be the big comeback.  i sorry de epl have a bidone de oro b/c he is a prime candidate
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bourbon on December 27, 2010, 05:36:53 PM
Leh me ask a question....what did chelsea buy ramieres to be really?

when i see he coming on 2nd half i say nah this cyah be the big comeback.  i sorry de epl have a bidone de oro b/c he is a prime candidate


Now me eh dogging the man eh. Cuz the EPL learning curve steep. And i find people should have a degree of patience for him. Not dat i mind eh....buh still.....I find people being over harsh. I trying to find out what people want from him that he not doing. Ting is..what was he bought to be? A goal scoring midfielder when he never was that? Come on.

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 27, 2010, 05:38:21 PM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 27, 2010, 05:42:20 PM
Roman going to spend spend spend in Jan

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 27, 2010, 06:10:58 PM
Allyuh harsh we, the man now come into the league and he has played some decent games to date. It is always difficult to come into a new league, think of how quality players struggle in their first season.

Arsenal did very well today especially by defending high up the pitch. Walcott and Nasri kept the fullbacks honest and Sagna and Clichy did well. Djourou makes a big difference, at least today anyway.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 27, 2010, 07:12:57 PM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 27, 2010, 07:43:15 PM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 27, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kev on December 28, 2010, 05:45:34 AM
Roman going to spend spend spend in Jan



Is he though???

Upto a season or two ago he had pumped into Chelsea 2 Million a week, don't know what it is lately.  Seems to be going the buy all decent youth route.  Aging squad with mostly untried / unproven / potential youngsters. 

Is he more interested in Russia World Cup / team than Chelski atm.  A lot of 30ish players.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: andre samuel on December 28, 2010, 06:22:07 AM
All i can say is that this is a deliberate ploy by Chelsea to weed out the waggonists!!

lol

We are an aging squad and we are in a really bad patch.  We are also a woefully shallow squad.  One look at the Chelsea bench and you would have realised that.

There is no way u can challenge for a title with a bench of Kakuta, Ramirez, Bosingwa, McEarchren, Van Anholt and Bruma.

When i looked on the arsenal bench, I saw, Arshavin, Diaby, Rosicky, Bentner, Chamakh....mismatch by a mile!!

Now we have to look over our shoulder for Tottenham.

Pressha!!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Touches on December 28, 2010, 06:30:36 AM
Andre

who yuh fooling with that post and talking bout bench...alyuh put out the strongest Chelsea 11...barring Anelka.

Just admit yuh side get wash nah. Dey play shit and men did not step up.

Walcott deal with Cashley, obi Mikel shit down heself, Lampard try but had no support and Drogba still have malaria.

Maluda and Kalou did ZERO.

Terry, Ivanovic and Chec keep alyuh in it.

This game was not determined by the bench...it was lost when alyuh look to play on the counter. You all did not run at us and the men who does always hurt us...Essien and Drogba get dealt with.

Chelsea is a now come up waggonist side...once paper stop spending alyuh gorn tru.



Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: sammy on December 28, 2010, 07:28:03 AM
Roman has a new toy called the world cup.


P.S i can see tottenham and maybe Man City getting a lot of new "supporters" in the near future.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on December 28, 2010, 07:32:21 AM
Chelsea is a now come up waggonist side...once paper stop spending alyuh gorn tru.

so true, Chelsea was nothing before the paper start, once that gone, is right back to zero.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 28, 2010, 08:07:08 AM
You would use Ramires and shithound in the same sentence though...

I NOW now coming to say what a shithound this fella is.  DAT is what allyuh spend 20 million euros on?
        I don't think he is a bad player is just that Chelsea is not the team for him,he not fitting in with those guys.

Agreed... is just a poor signing.  Look Aquilani tearing it up for Juventus when he couldn't even come off the bench at Liverpool.  Too much expectations coupled with a poor fit= recipe for failure, true of both situations.


 I agree, Chelsea may not be the right team for him. And to say that he does not show Brazilian attributes is a joke. What Brazilian attributes had Dunga shown as  player. He was workhorse all the way.  But he won and WC and coached. Chelsea with all their fantastic play at times has been mercurial this season. Injuries has unsettled the team also. And then the Ray Wilkins affair appeared to be an omen of some sorts. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 28, 2010, 08:24:39 AM
All i can say is that this is a deliberate ploy by Chelsea to weed out the waggonists!!

lol

We are an aging squad and we are in a really bad patch.  We are also a woefully shallow squad.  One look at the Chelsea bench and you would have realised that.

There is no way u can challenge for a title with a bench of Kakuta, Ramirez, Bosingwa, McEarchren, Van Anholt and Bruma.

When i looked on the arsenal bench, I saw, Arshavin, Diaby, Rosicky, Bentner, Chamakh....mismatch by a mile!!

Now we have to look over our shoulder for Tottenham.

Pressha!!

Allyuh wasnt saying that when teams were getting hit for 6 in the first few games ....

all of a sudden is a old man team

haha allyuh good

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 08:49:19 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 09:00:40 AM
Newcastle's keeper is one shitsnake!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 28, 2010, 09:51:32 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?

Since yuh wanna play yuh don't know, let meh remind yuh that JOM plays an attaking midfield for Nigeria since the U-17 World Cup in finland, 2003.   Chelsea has made it their business to use him as a defensive mid (and who knows what position manu was lookin' to use him as) and I don't give a shit what you want to try to reason as "what Chelsea does see in practice" because the whole world saw what he did in Holland in 2005, particulalrly what he did to them Argentinians in the final.  Yes, that was 5 years ago, but it was then and always has been the basis for my continued contention of WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.   Argentina was absolutely outplayed by Nigeria and JOM was the man pulling all the strings for Nigeria and I have the tape if you want to review/dispute it.  Maybe you can see for yourself "what Chelsea does see in practice" and scratch yuh head like me.

  Allyuh does want to have debate issues so hypocritically it ain't funny.  You want to use a team's tactics as a basis for singling out one player as not being good.  YOU know all too well that Chelsea had TWO, no, make dat THREE good wingers in SWP and Arjen Robben (that divin' bitch!) and Joe Cole and showed no commitment to playing on the wings.  Now the team want to use the fullbacks as overlapping "wingers" and we doh have no established wingers in the squad.  Go figure.  Look how long it has been takin' Chelsea to establish an attacking partnership between Drogba and Anelka.  You think arsene9 or alex wasn't going to done forcefully apply all the necessary permutations of that combination (and Kalou) to whatever advantage the team can garner from it?  Gimme a break, giggsy.  As I said before, when MY team came out hot and sweaty out the starting blocks, JOM was getting accolades all around (even from some non-believers on this forum) as being one of the best players on the team.  Now, during the team's 8-game slide, I agree he hasn't played his best, but it hasn't been all his fault.  But you constantly singling him out (and I know why) and everybody else singling out Ramires....rather unfairly.  the man get two terrible passes yesterday in the heart of the defence and did the best he could with them and men talkin' shit.  Allyuh good oui!  I ask you to account for some of the other players on my team doing and all you using is flawed logic to digress.  Lampard was absolutely ineffective for the entire game yesterday as we all would agree.  Did Ancelotti take him off?  No.  So "substitutions" don't always have to do with any one player playin' more shit than anybody else like you infer.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 10:06:16 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?

Since yuh wanna play yuh don't know, let meh remind yuh that JOM plays an attaking midfield for Nigeria since the U-17 World Cup in finland, 2003.   Chelsea has made it their business to use him as a defensive mid (and who knows what position manu was lookin' to use him as) and I don't give a shit what you want to try to reason as "what Chelsea does see in practice" because the whole world saw what he did in Holland in 2005, particulalrly what he did to them Argentinians in the final.  Yes, that was 5 years ago, but it was then and always has been the basis for my continued contention of WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.   Argentina was absolutely outplayed by Nigeria and JOM was the man pulling all the strings for Nigeria and I have the tape if you want to review/dispute it.  Maybe you can see for yourself "what Chelsea does see in practice" and scratch yuh head like me.

  Allyuh does want to have debate issues so hypocritically it ain't funny.  You want to use a team's tactics as a basis for singling out one player as not being good.  YOU know all too well that Chelsea had TWO, no, make dat THREE good wingers in SWP and Arjen Robben (that divin' bitch!) and Joe Cole and showed no commitment to playing on the wings.  Now the team want to use the fullbacks as overlapping "wingers" and we doh have no established wingers in the squad.  Go figure.  Look how long it has been takin' Chelsea to establish an attacking partnership between Drogba and Anelka.  You think arsene9 or alex wasn't going to done forcefully apply all the necessary permutations of that combination (and Kalou) to whatever advantage the team can garner from it?  Gimme a break, giggsy.  As I said before, when MY team came out hot and sweaty out the starting blocks, JOM was getting accolades all around (even from some non-believers on this forum) as being one of the best players on the team.  Now, during the team's 8-game slide, I agree he hasn't played his best, but it hasn't been all his fault.  But you constantly singling him out (and I know why) and everybody else singling out Ramires....rather unfairly.  the man get two terrible passes yesterday in the heart of the defence and did the best he could with them and men talkin' shit.  Allyuh good oui!  I ask you to account for some of the other players on my team doing and all you using is flawed logic to digress.  Lampard was absolutely ineffective for the entire game yesterday as we all would agree.  Did Ancelotti take him off?  No.  So "substitutions" don't always have to do with any one player playin' more shit than anybody else like you infer.

Why am I singling him  out like you say?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 28, 2010, 10:17:09 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?

Since yuh wanna play yuh don't know, let meh remind yuh that JOM plays an attaking midfield for Nigeria since the U-17 World Cup in finland, 2003.   Chelsea has made it their business to use him as a defensive mid (and who knows what position manu was lookin' to use him as) and I don't give a shit what you want to try to reason as "what Chelsea does see in practice" because the whole world saw what he did in Holland in 2005, particulalrly what he did to them Argentinians in the final.  Yes, that was 5 years ago, but it was then and always has been the basis for my continued contention of WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.   Argentina was absolutely outplayed by Nigeria and JOM was the man pulling all the strings for Nigeria and I have the tape if you want to review/dispute it.  Maybe you can see for yourself "what Chelsea does see in practice" and scratch yuh head like me.

  Allyuh does want to have debate issues so hypocritically it ain't funny.  You want to use a team's tactics as a basis for singling out one player as not being good.  YOU know all too well that Chelsea had TWO, no, make dat THREE good wingers in SWP and Arjen Robben (that divin' bitch!) and Joe Cole and showed no commitment to playing on the wings.  Now the team want to use the fullbacks as overlapping "wingers" and we doh have no established wingers in the squad.  Go figure.  Look how long it has been takin' Chelsea to establish an attacking partnership between Drogba and Anelka.  You think arsene9 or alex wasn't going to done forcefully apply all the necessary permutations of that combination (and Kalou) to whatever advantage the team can garner from it?  Gimme a break, giggsy.  As I said before, when MY team came out hot and sweaty out the starting blocks, JOM was getting accolades all around (even from some non-believers on this forum) as being one of the best players on the team.  Now, during the team's 8-game slide, I agree he hasn't played his best, but it hasn't been all his fault.  But you constantly singling him out (and I know why) and everybody else singling out Ramires....rather unfairly.  the man get two terrible passes yesterday in the heart of the defence and did the best he could with them and men talkin' shit.  Allyuh good oui!  I ask you to account for some of the other players on my team doing and all you using is flawed logic to digress.  Lampard was absolutely ineffective for the entire game yesterday as we all would agree.  Did Ancelotti take him off?  No.  So "substitutions" don't always have to do with any one player playin' more shit than anybody else like you infer.

Why am I singling him  out like you say?

You know why, giggsy.  I doh have to spell it out fuh yuh. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 10:30:30 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?

Since yuh wanna play yuh don't know, let meh remind yuh that JOM plays an attaking midfield for Nigeria since the U-17 World Cup in finland, 2003.   Chelsea has made it their business to use him as a defensive mid (and who knows what position manu was lookin' to use him as) and I don't give a shit what you want to try to reason as "what Chelsea does see in practice" because the whole world saw what he did in Holland in 2005, particulalrly what he did to them Argentinians in the final.  Yes, that was 5 years ago, but it was then and always has been the basis for my continued contention of WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.   Argentina was absolutely outplayed by Nigeria and JOM was the man pulling all the strings for Nigeria and I have the tape if you want to review/dispute it.  Maybe you can see for yourself "what Chelsea does see in practice" and scratch yuh head like me.

  Allyuh does want to have debate issues so hypocritically it ain't funny.  You want to use a team's tactics as a basis for singling out one player as not being good.  YOU know all too well that Chelsea had TWO, no, make dat THREE good wingers in SWP and Arjen Robben (that divin' bitch!) and Joe Cole and showed no commitment to playing on the wings.  Now the team want to use the fullbacks as overlapping "wingers" and we doh have no established wingers in the squad.  Go figure.  Look how long it has been takin' Chelsea to establish an attacking partnership between Drogba and Anelka.  You think arsene9 or alex wasn't going to done forcefully apply all the necessary permutations of that combination (and Kalou) to whatever advantage the team can garner from it?  Gimme a break, giggsy.  As I said before, when MY team came out hot and sweaty out the starting blocks, JOM was getting accolades all around (even from some non-believers on this forum) as being one of the best players on the team.  Now, during the team's 8-game slide, I agree he hasn't played his best, but it hasn't been all his fault.  But you constantly singling him out (and I know why) and everybody else singling out Ramires....rather unfairly.  the man get two terrible passes yesterday in the heart of the defence and did the best he could with them and men talkin' shit.  Allyuh good oui!  I ask you to account for some of the other players on my team doing and all you using is flawed logic to digress.  Lampard was absolutely ineffective for the entire game yesterday as we all would agree.  Did Ancelotti take him off?  No.  So "substitutions" don't always have to do with any one player playin' more shit than anybody else like you infer.

Why am I singling him  out like you say?

You know why, giggsy.  I doh have to spell it out fuh yuh. 

Cause you are a chelski fan and that is yuh boi?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 28, 2010, 10:43:09 AM
Lots of games on TV today and tomorrow...

Home team listed first, all times EDT:


Tuesday December 28

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/70/f3/0,,12306~3339120,00.gif)  Manchester City v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/62/f3/0,,12306~3339106,00.gif)  Aston Villa- 10 am FSC/Fox Deportes

On now City up 4-0, Balotelli with the hat trick (pen 8', 27', pen 54') and Lescott with another (27')
Balotelli seems to be hitting his stride with 7 goals in the last 8 games.  The second penalty today was just ridiculous... he completely undressed Brad Friedel with a hesitation move.


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/76/92/0,,12306~8819318,00.gif)  Newcastle United v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/79/f3/0,,12306~3339129,00.gif)  Tottenham Hotspurs- 9:55 am FSP

On now Lennon has Spurs up 1-0 early in the second half


(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/77/92/0,,12306~8819319,00.gif)  West Bromwich Albion v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/65/f3/0,,12306~3339109,00.gif)  Blackburn Rovers- 12:00 Noon FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7a/f3/0,,12306~3339130,00.gif)  West Ham v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6b/f3/0,,12306~3339115,00.gif)  Everton- 12:30 pm FSC/Fox Deportes

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/be/9f/0,,12306~6004670,00.gif)  Birmingham v. Manchester United- 2:55 pm ESPN2/ESPN3.com


Wednesday December 29

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/68/f3/0,,12306~3339112,00.gif)  Chelsea v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/67/f3/0,,12306~3339111,00.gif)  Bolton Wanderers- 2:30 pm FSC/Fox Deportes

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/7b/f3/0,,12306~3339131,00.gif)  Wigan v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/61/f3/0,,12306~3339105,00.gif)  Arsenal- 2:40 pm FSP

(http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/6e/f3/0,,12306~3339118,00.gif)  Liverpool v. (http://www.premierleague.com/javaImages/c6/9f/0,,12306~6004678,00.gif)  Wolverhampton Wolves- 5:00 pm FSC/Fox Deportes
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 28, 2010, 10:48:53 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?

Since yuh wanna play yuh don't know, let meh remind yuh that JOM plays an attaking midfield for Nigeria since the U-17 World Cup in finland, 2003.   Chelsea has made it their business to use him as a defensive mid (and who knows what position manu was lookin' to use him as) and I don't give a shit what you want to try to reason as "what Chelsea does see in practice" because the whole world saw what he did in Holland in 2005, particulalrly what he did to them Argentinians in the final.  Yes, that was 5 years ago, but it was then and always has been the basis for my continued contention of WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.   Argentina was absolutely outplayed by Nigeria and JOM was the man pulling all the strings for Nigeria and I have the tape if you want to review/dispute it.  Maybe you can see for yourself "what Chelsea does see in practice" and scratch yuh head like me.

  Allyuh does want to have debate issues so hypocritically it ain't funny.  You want to use a team's tactics as a basis for singling out one player as not being good.  YOU know all too well that Chelsea had TWO, no, make dat THREE good wingers in SWP and Arjen Robben (that divin' bitch!) and Joe Cole and showed no commitment to playing on the wings.  Now the team want to use the fullbacks as overlapping "wingers" and we doh have no established wingers in the squad.  Go figure.  Look how long it has been takin' Chelsea to establish an attacking partnership between Drogba and Anelka.  You think arsene9 or alex wasn't going to done forcefully apply all the necessary permutations of that combination (and Kalou) to whatever advantage the team can garner from it?  Gimme a break, giggsy.  As I said before, when MY team came out hot and sweaty out the starting blocks, JOM was getting accolades all around (even from some non-believers on this forum) as being one of the best players on the team.  Now, during the team's 8-game slide, I agree he hasn't played his best, but it hasn't been all his fault.  But you constantly singling him out (and I know why) and everybody else singling out Ramires....rather unfairly.  the man get two terrible passes yesterday in the heart of the defence and did the best he could with them and men talkin' shit.  Allyuh good oui!  I ask you to account for some of the other players on my team doing and all you using is flawed logic to digress.  Lampard was absolutely ineffective for the entire game yesterday as we all would agree.  Did Ancelotti take him off?  No.  So "substitutions" don't always have to do with any one player playin' more shit than anybody else like you infer.

Why am I singling him  out like you say?

You know why, giggsy.  I doh have to spell it out fuh yuh. 

Cause you are a chelski fan and that is yuh boi?


OK. Yeah, dize your motive.  Arright.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 10:56:27 AM
Everybody focusin on ramires but what exactly obi mikel bringin to tuh table?
Giggsy, yuh really need to check yuh self.  until this 7-8 game slide, Mikel has been one of the best players on the team.  The ENTIRE TEAM has been playin shit during our bad run, save for one or two players like Cech, Terry and Ivanovic.  I know why yuh keep ridin' on my boy Mikel but yuh being overly rediculous with your criticism of him.  More often than not, he is left to cover for other men's mistakes PLUS playing his own role.  Even the commentators was gettin' on his case today when John Terry (I think) gave the man a suicidal bad pass in the defense and he STILL was able to clear the danger then he got another frantic bad pass near the right back position and they talkin' 'bout Mikel not on his game WTF?!?!  Our forwards pullin' more stones than ANYBODY on the field and yet everybody talkin' 'bout Ramires and all you talkin' 'bout is Mikel.  Gimme me a break!  PLEASE! What did Lampard do today?  What has Kalou done for the past 15 games?  What has Anelka done for the past 10? 


Yuh boy has been one of many passengers and has contributed nil as the team continues to slde hence him being first sub almost every match! If he has all these attacking skills he supposedly have how come he gets sub when Chelski need to be more creative or positive?

You are asking a question that I have answered a long time ago.  Chelsea, from the get-go has been using John Obi mikel as a defensive midfielder while his play for his national team has already proven his playmaking abilities.  If ypu want to use tactical substitutions as a basis for arguing what his worth is, then you are being very narrow.  This is the same club that insisted on making Shevchenko and Ballack key players when they were obviously past their primes and expiration dates.  Just because he is being subbed, doesn't make him the problem.  He is obviously worth being a starter.  You say he is one of many "passengers" on the team during their slide, so, what makes you constantly single him out?  What about Kalou?  How come you don't ask about HIS contribution (or lack thereof).  GAgain, I ask, gimme a break, giggsy!  Left up to your evaluation of a player, Berbatov would never make allyuh shit side (never mind how good he proved he was when he was with Spurs) but tell me, is he still a shit player to you? 

So what do you think Obi is showing them in practise that they only playing him as a dm? Your boy is part of the problem the same way Berbatov's inconsistensy has been part of United's problem since he came to the team. I am not picking on Obi but if ramires getting criticism for not performing well the hell obi has done to escape criticism? you keep saying he is asked to play dm but don't you think that based on the struggles of the team the manager would have used his hidden talents to bring something different to the team versus subbin him? Especially when Lampard was out. Or do they already know?

Since yuh wanna play yuh don't know, let meh remind yuh that JOM plays an attaking midfield for Nigeria since the U-17 World Cup in finland, 2003.   Chelsea has made it their business to use him as a defensive mid (and who knows what position manu was lookin' to use him as) and I don't give a shit what you want to try to reason as "what Chelsea does see in practice" because the whole world saw what he did in Holland in 2005, particulalrly what he did to them Argentinians in the final.  Yes, that was 5 years ago, but it was then and always has been the basis for my continued contention of WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.   Argentina was absolutely outplayed by Nigeria and JOM was the man pulling all the strings for Nigeria and I have the tape if you want to review/dispute it.  Maybe you can see for yourself "what Chelsea does see in practice" and scratch yuh head like me.

  Allyuh does want to have debate issues so hypocritically it ain't funny.  You want to use a team's tactics as a basis for singling out one player as not being good.  YOU know all too well that Chelsea had TWO, no, make dat THREE good wingers in SWP and Arjen Robben (that divin' bitch!) and Joe Cole and showed no commitment to playing on the wings.  Now the team want to use the fullbacks as overlapping "wingers" and we doh have no established wingers in the squad.  Go figure.  Look how long it has been takin' Chelsea to establish an attacking partnership between Drogba and Anelka.  You think arsene9 or alex wasn't going to done forcefully apply all the necessary permutations of that combination (and Kalou) to whatever advantage the team can garner from it?  Gimme a break, giggsy.  As I said before, when MY team came out hot and sweaty out the starting blocks, JOM was getting accolades all around (even from some non-believers on this forum) as being one of the best players on the team.  Now, during the team's 8-game slide, I agree he hasn't played his best, but it hasn't been all his fault.  But you constantly singling him out (and I know why) and everybody else singling out Ramires....rather unfairly.  the man get two terrible passes yesterday in the heart of the defence and did the best he could with them and men talkin' shit.  Allyuh good oui!  I ask you to account for some of the other players on my team doing and all you using is flawed logic to digress.  Lampard was absolutely ineffective for the entire game yesterday as we all would agree.  Did Ancelotti take him off?  No.  So "substitutions" don't always have to do with any one player playin' more shit than anybody else like you infer.

Why am I singling him  out like you say?

You know why, giggsy.  I doh have to spell it out fuh yuh. 

Cause you are a chelski fan and that is yuh boi?


OK. Yeah, dize your motive.  Arright.

You funny yes!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 28, 2010, 12:15:25 PM
Silva was magic today for Man City, seems to be settling and showing good relationship with team mates.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 28, 2010, 03:11:23 PM
This Man U side playing a scintillating brand vs Birmingham.
It's a wonder the pitch could contain all this excitement.  :yawning:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on December 28, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
This Man U side playing a scintillating brand vs Birmingham.
It's a wonder the pitch could contain all this excitement.  :yawning:

GOAL! berba  :angel: ,wow sweet touch  :o
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 03:20:22 PM
This Man U side playing a scintillating brand vs Birmingham.
It's a wonder the pitch could contain all this excitement.  :yawning:

GOAL! berba  :angel: ,wow sweet touch  :o

Yep, yep!-It seems like Rooney has forgotten how to use his left foot! That guy has regressed big time!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 28, 2010, 03:27:50 PM
Just last year man on this site was calling Berba a shithound / shitsnake. Now he is getting an extended run, all his qualities blossoming. He showing touches, vision and world class finishing.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 03:31:11 PM
Just last year man on this site was calling Berba a shithound / shitsnake. Now he is getting an extended run, all his qualities blossoming. He showing touches, vision and world class finishing.

You must admit he was playin like a shithound! Not saying he didn't have the skills but he was playin like a shithound!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 28, 2010, 03:33:35 PM
Steve McManaman is the worse! He givin that American commentator the homer from the world cup a run for his money!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on December 28, 2010, 03:49:13 PM
nice handball from Birmingham lol
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 28, 2010, 03:54:49 PM
offside and handball!
But we go take it!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 28, 2010, 04:01:23 PM
offside and handball!
But we go take it!

only way Birmingham could have stopped us

what a shit goal... to be fair it would have been tough to see the handball... I thought it was more offside .. but when I saw the replay it was more handball and less offside

f**k that would have been a massive 3 points.... still top of the league and playing well... missing Nani and Scholes.. hopefully they will be back soon... If we played like that in our previous away games we would have been running away with the title...desperately unlucky to draw today
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 28, 2010, 04:02:43 PM
Newcastle's keeper is one shitsnake!

 How so?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 28, 2010, 04:11:14 PM
Oh gosh ah reach.....that is some dutty dutty tackle boy whey sah. Like the ref yellow card was frozen in he back pocket.

Great equalizer by City, you could have seen it coming after Man United decided to defend the 1 goal. City really worked hard and deserved to take away a point.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 28, 2010, 04:14:22 PM
nice handball from Birmingham lol

Ball to hand... good non-call.  And no Bitter... look at when Bowyer started his run, didn't look off-side to me, the protest was over the 'handball'.

ManU fans have no business complaining b/c as per usual, every 50-50 call was given in their favor but this one (which the ref probably didn't see clear enough to call, if the linesman didn't call that, he couldn't call it either).  I love Giggs but that is a straight up yellow card, two-footed, studs up tackle he put on that Brum player.  Not to mention the foul by Fletcher right before that on the pass leading up to that challenge.  

Then there was Ferdinand studs up header, in which Jerome somehow ended up getting pegged on his shin.  No call was given.  Mind you Ferdiand did THE SAME EXACT THING against Arsenal last week... and studded Sagna across his stomach.  Sagna even ended up with his shirt in tatters, prompting Ferdinand to offer an apology to him (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/853566?cc=5901) afterwards.  Ref di'n see nutten wrong with that.  But let one call go against allyuh and allyuh crying more than anybody.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 28, 2010, 04:16:58 PM
nice handball from Birmingham lol

Ball to hand... good non-call.  

I stopped after that LOL

you real good yes...

3 things went down..Phillips pushed Rio.. Zigic rose above and handled it to Bowyer who was in a possible Offside position....  that's no ball to hand..especially when it led to a goal

50/50..yea..normal... ::)

If United scored a goal like that we wouldnt hear the end of it

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 28, 2010, 04:22:31 PM
nice handball from Birmingham lol

Ball to hand... good non-call.  

I stopped after that LOL

you real good yes...

3 things went down..Phillips pushed Rio.. Zigic rose above and handled it to Bowyer who was in a possible Offside position....  that's no ball to hand..especially when it led to a goal

50/50..yea..normal... ::)

If United scored a goal like that we wouldnt hear the end of it



How Zigic could "handle" the ball when his hand never left his side?  Take yuh blinders off son... and yeah, doh bother read the rest, it too damning to yuh persecution cause.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 28, 2010, 05:37:09 PM
nice handball from Birmingham lol

Ball to hand... good non-call.  And no Bitter... look at when Bowyer started his run, didn't look off-side to me, the protest was over the 'handball'.

ManU fans have no business complaining b/c as per usual, every 50-50 call was given in their favor but this one (which the ref probably didn't see clear enough to call, if the linesman didn't call that, he couldn't call it either).  I love Giggs but that is a straight up yellow card, two-footed, studs up tackle he put on that Brum player.  Not to mention the foul by Fletcher right before that on the pass leading up to that challenge.  

Then there was Ferdinand studs up header, in which Jerome somehow ended up getting pegged on his shin.  No call was given.  Mind you Ferdiand did THE SAME EXACT THING against Arsenal last week... and studded Sagna across his stomach.  Sagna even ended up with his shirt in tatters, prompting Ferdinand to offer an apology to him (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/853566?cc=5901) afterwards.  Ref di'n see nutten wrong with that.  But let one call go against allyuh and allyuh crying more than anybody.

Thought was only me had an issue with that.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: fari on December 29, 2010, 09:46:44 AM
dzeko about to go man city

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/858651?cc=5901


thais real firepower they have now....but go be hard to keep all them big name strikers happy.   
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 02:12:57 PM
Ivanovic should have Elmander do a paternity test.


EDIT:

I having less and less respect for Essien... not only is he reckless with the majority of his challenges, but now the desperation starting to show as he's resorting to gamesmanship to try and win fouls and get man booked.  Poor.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 29, 2010, 02:16:41 PM
You see what Ivanovic get a card for? Then look at the tackles Bolton getting away with, especially Davies.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 29, 2010, 02:17:52 PM
That is blatant cheating by the ref, give Chelsea players cards and talk to Bolton's.   :bs:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 02:18:48 PM
That is blatant cheating by the ref, give Chelsea players cards and talk to Bolton's.   :bs:

What he was supposed to give a card for... that dive by Essien?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2010, 02:26:11 PM
Arshavin playing crap whole game and then turn up to score.
Maybe the goal will snap him out of his funk.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 02:37:33 PM
Arshavin playing crap whole game and then turn up to score.
Maybe the goal will snap him out of his funk.

Ah doh have FSP so ah missing dat game... keep we posted, either here or in de Arsenal thread.


Very evenly matched game between Bolton and Chelsea.  Seeing Bolton for the first time in a year, I'm really impressed.  I remember how they were struggle to stave off relegation under Gary Megson... now Coyle have them challenge for top 4.  Paul Robinson playing very well across the the entire Bolton backline.  I could see why he keeping Jlloyd on the bench.  Elmander and Davies winning everything in the air up front, Ivanovic getting take fuh he lunch on every header.

Meanwhile in the Chelsea middle, Essien, Ramires and Malouda cyah make ah note.  Ramires playing better though, but still nervous.  Rodrigo had a nice battle going with Cole early... but like he fade close to de half.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2010, 02:53:36 PM
Arshavin playing crap whole game and then turn up to score.
Maybe the goal will snap him out of his funk.

Ah doh have FSP so ah missing dat game... keep we posted, either here or in de Arsenal thread.

If yuh could watch tv and post, yuh could watch both games same time. If yuh at work, tell them watching football on dec 29th is part of your cultural tradition and you don't want to compromise yuh beliefs.  ;D

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=99749&part=sports

In any case, Wigan score first on a suspect penalty. I surprised the Arsenal defense eh complain more, but I doubt N'zogbia even feel a breeze when he went down from Koscielny "challenge". Ref call it though, watson score.

Whole time Arsenal looking like they ent really taking it seriously, and Arshavin already have he name on the 1/2 time substitute list. But Bendtner get a 1/2 chance, Arshavin clean up the rebound with a nice volley and Arsenal flip the switch. Wigan cyah touch the ball, is only a matter of time, Ashavin to Bendtner a bit of luck and a nice finish: 2-1.

Diably had to go off and Wilshire come on, which might have made a difference in the passing. Wenger make 8 changes from the chelsea squad though.

Out:
Djourou
Clichy
Song
Wilshere
Fbregas
Nasri
Walcott
Van Persie

In:
Squillaci
Ebou
Diaby
Denilson
Arshavin
Bendtner
Chamakh
Rosicky



Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tallman on December 29, 2010, 02:53:57 PM
Arshavin playing crap whole game and then turn up to score.
Maybe the goal will snap him out of his funk.

Ah doh have FSP so ah missing dat game... keep we posted, either here or in de Arsenal thread.


Very evenly matched game between Bolton and Chelsea.  Seeing Bolton for the first time in a year, I'm really impressed.  I remember how they were struggle to stave off relegation under Gary Megson... now Coyle have them challenge for top 4.  Paul Robinson playing very well across the the entire Bolton backline.  I could see why he keeping Jlloyd on the bench.  Elmander and Davies winning everything in the air up front, Ivanovic getting take fuh he lunch on every header.

Meanwhile in the Chelsea middle, Essien, Ramires and Malouda cyah make ah note.  Ramires playing better though, but still nervous.  Rodrigo had a nice battle going with Cole early... but like he fade close to de half.

Jlloyd not on de bench. He been injured practically all season.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: theworm2345 on December 29, 2010, 02:59:46 PM
Arshavin playing crap whole game and then turn up to score.
Maybe the goal will snap him out of his funk.

Ah doh have FSP so ah missing dat game... keep we posted, either here or in de Arsenal thread.


Very evenly matched game between Bolton and Chelsea.  Seeing Bolton for the first time in a year, I'm really impressed.  I remember how they were struggle to stave off relegation under Gary Megson... now Coyle have them challenge for top 4.  Paul Robinson playing very well across the the entire Bolton backline.  I could see why he keeping Jlloyd on the bench.  Elmander and Davies winning everything in the air up front, Ivanovic getting take fuh he lunch on every header.

Meanwhile in the Chelsea middle, Essien, Ramires and Malouda cyah make ah note.  Ramires playing better though, but still nervous.  Rodrigo had a nice battle going with Cole early... but like he fade close to de half.

Jlloyd not on de bench. He been injured practically all season.
Bolton were only able to name 6 subs (out of 7 allowed) today, if Jlloyd was fit I'm sure he'd at least make the bench.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on December 29, 2010, 03:04:39 PM
Bakes what yuh say about the tackle on Essien just before he play the ball? That's a yellow after the play dead. Two footed lunge. If Essien had done that or Mikel or D'Jong that's a straight red.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 03:05:43 PM
Bitter... thanks for the link and update... Tallman, thanks for the update, really meant that he was keeping Jlloyd out of the starting lineup, which was the case since Coyle took over, but ah di'n know that Jlloyd was injured.  Worm, I did hear earlier in the broadcast that there were only 7 on the bench... crazy.


Meanwhile, Chelsea came out the second half with a vengeance... and it's paid off.  Drogba to Malouda, 1-0 Chelsea in teh 60'
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 03:06:50 PM
Bakes what yuh say about the tackle on Essien just before he play the ball? That's a yellow after the play dead. Two footed lunge. If Essien had done that or Mikel or D'Jong that's a straight red.

Can't remember that one to be honest, I probably missed it.  I thought ref did a good job maintaining control of the game though.  Admittedly he giving Taylor a long leash.


-------------------------

Chelsea get away with a penalty... clear handball by Terry.  It was really ball-to-hand, but the hand was away from the body enough to merit the call imo.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2010, 03:23:37 PM
Stupid red card for N'zogbia. The ONLY player giving Arsenal problems.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2010, 03:25:49 PM
10-man Wigan equalize
Nice own-goal by Squillaci
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 29, 2010, 03:46:52 PM
Arsenal are a joke..cant beat a 10 man Wigan
Chelsea are a shit side ... what a joke .. offside goal and Bolton penalty dismissed

but yet United gets all the calls  ::)...when they had 3 things went down in Birmingham's equaliser yesterday..a foul, handball and offside.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 03:49:55 PM
Arsenal are a joke..cant beat a 10 man Wigan
Chelsea are a shit side ... what a joke .. offside goal and Bolton penalty dismissed

but yet United gets all the calls  ::)...when they had 3 things went down in Birmingham's equaliser yesterday..a foul, handball and offside.

Dred you still bitching over that supposed "handball"??  Again I ask you... how can it be handball if the arm was at his side?  Secondly it wasn't a foul on Ferdinand, at least not by EPL standards, Ferdinand just got beat to the jump and by then couldn't get off his feet. 

The final grumble about offside is really too silly to even merit discussion.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2010, 03:51:59 PM
Arsenal had a bogus penalty against as well as a no-penalty call for the same handball in the wall that got Hotspurs a penalty against them. They didn't get 6 minutes of extra time though... So it does go.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 29, 2010, 03:57:20 PM
Arsenal are a joke..cant beat a 10 man Wigan
Chelsea are a shit side ... what a joke .. offside goal and Bolton penalty dismissed

but yet United gets all the calls  ::)...when they had 3 things went down in Birmingham's equaliser yesterday..a foul, handball and offside.

Dred you still bitching over that supposed "handball"??  Again I ask you... how can it be handball if the arm was at his side?  Secondly it wasn't a foul on Ferdinand, at least not by EPL standards, Ferdinand just got beat to the jump and by then couldn't get off his feet. 

The final grumble about offside is really too silly to even merit discussion.

that was a handball my boy... it resulted in a goal...

anyway I would have taken a draw at Brum before the game because how hard it is to win there but the way the goal went down made it feel like a loss..and we dominated play created the best chances hit the post twice..so i am still pissed

BTW....Wolves at home dog? WOLVES AT HOME DOG???

1-0 FT.. Roy has got to go ..surely that is the final straw
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 04:07:09 PM
BTW....Wolves at home dog? WOLVES AT HOME DOG???

1-0 FT.. Roy has got to go ..surely that is the final straw

Yeah... thanks for spoiling the game for me, I just sat down to watch it on delay.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 29, 2010, 04:15:39 PM
BTW....Wolves at home dog? WOLVES AT HOME DOG???

1-0 FT.. Roy has got to go ..surely that is the final straw

Yeah... thanks for spoiling the game for me, I just sat down to watch it on delay.

Roy looks like he in too deep.  Has not won over the Anfield faithful, tactics are highly questionable, players seem uninspired, and they keep chanting "Bring back Rafa".  NESV, please pull the plug on Roy before January.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 04:30:13 PM
Roy looks like he in too deep.  Has not won over the Anfield faithful, tactics are highly questionable, players seem uninspired, and they keep chanting "Bring back Rafa".  NESV, please pull the plug on Roy before January.

Yeah I turn off the TV.. nutten to watch if we lost 1-0.  I've seen this movie before. 

I've tried to be generous in giving him time but it's not happening.  I don't want Rafa back, frankly... he did nothing his last couple of years.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 29, 2010, 04:37:52 PM
BTW....Wolves at home dog? WOLVES AT HOME DOG???

1-0 FT.. Roy has got to go ..surely that is the final straw

Yeah... thanks for spoiling the game for me, I just sat down to watch it on delay.

this is an open EPL thread with spoilers all around the place

you should have stated something saying please dont post spoilers(to everyone) or stay off the thread... I have not one ounce of sympathy.. when I watch delayed games is cell off no internet... take a lesson

I think I actually helped you by spoiling the score
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: just cool on December 29, 2010, 06:29:04 PM
BTW....Wolves at home dog? WOLVES AT HOME DOG???

1-0 FT.. Roy has got to go ..surely that is the final straw

Yeah... thanks for spoiling the game for me, I just sat down to watch it on delay.

this is an open EPL thread with spoilers all around the place

you should have stated something saying please dont post spoilers(to everyone) or stay off the thread... I have not one ounce of sympathy.. when I watch delayed games is cell off no internet... take a lesson

I think I actually helped you by spoiling the score
You are cold!  :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 29, 2010, 06:32:10 PM
BTW....Wolves at home dog? WOLVES AT HOME DOG???

1-0 FT.. Roy has got to go ..surely that is the final straw

Yeah... thanks for spoiling the game for me, I just sat down to watch it on delay.

this is an open EPL thread with spoilers all around the place

you should have stated something saying please dont post spoilers(to everyone) or stay off the thread... I have not one ounce of sympathy.. when I watch delayed games is cell off no internet... take a lesson

I think I actually helped you by spoiling the score

Damn spoiler! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 06:56:08 PM
this is an open EPL thread with spoilers all around the place

you should have stated something saying please dont post spoilers(to everyone) or stay off the thread... I have not one ounce of sympathy.. when I watch delayed games is cell off no internet... take a lesson

I think I actually helped you by spoiling the score

You on yuh f**king period or what small man?  Some of us have lives beyond football, it really not that serious.  How about you try and take yuh head out Fergie's ass for a second and make something productive of yuhself.  Living the life of a full-time fanboy doesn't count.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on December 29, 2010, 07:12:56 PM
Arsenal are a joke..cant beat a 10 man Wigan
Chelsea are a shit side ... what a joke .. offside goal and Bolton penalty dismissed

but yet United gets all the calls  ::)...when they had 3 things went down in Birmingham's equaliser yesterday..a foul, handball and offside.

Dred you still bitching over that supposed "handball"??  Again I ask you... how can it be handball if the arm was at his side?  Secondly it wasn't a foul on Ferdinand, at least not by EPL standards, Ferdinand just got beat to the jump and by then couldn't get off his feet. 

The final grumble about offside is really too silly to even merit discussion.

The guy's arms were in front of him and he redirected the ball the same way a volleyballer cushions the ball on the forearms to set it up. And he admitted to the United players after that handes the ball.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2010, 08:39:34 PM
The guy's arms were in front of him and he redirected the ball the same way a volleyballer cushions the ball on the forearms to set it up. And he admitted to the United players after that handes the ball.

I'm sure he did... and you heard that from he himself, right?  You have a direct quote where he says that himself, right?


Doh worry... ah not holding mih breath.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dotless007 on December 30, 2010, 04:48:00 PM
men sour
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 30, 2010, 07:58:31 PM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: dotless007 on December 31, 2010, 12:43:28 AM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.

talk to blatter
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on December 31, 2010, 05:54:00 AM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.
       I've been observing for sometime now Referees can't keep up with the pace of the game,i can't understand why they don't get younger guys to Ref,if you notice they are never in position to see anything,players run into them,they get in the way of the ball etc how conditioned can these guys get at their ages. 
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: kev on December 31, 2010, 07:45:41 AM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.
       I've been observing for sometime now Referees can't keep up with the pace of the game,i can't understand why they don't get younger guys to Ref,if you notice they are never in position to see anything,players run into them,they get in the way of the ball etc how conditioned can these guys get at their ages. 

Tried that with the likes of Atwell, simply not good enough, too inexperienced and in awe.

Don't know why anybody is surprised by ref decisions it has always been the case that certain teams / players get a lot less punishment for the same (an in some cases worse) offences than the rest. Manu, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool & Spurs are the usual beneficiaries, will very quickly be joined by Man City if not already.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 31, 2010, 08:04:36 AM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.
       I've been observing for sometime now Referees can't keep up with the pace of the game,i can't understand why they don't get younger guys to Ref,if you notice they are never in position to see anything,players run into them,they get in the way of the ball etc how conditioned can these guys get at their ages. 


At the Interational level Refs have to retire at 44, so that has been addressed. But I agree the game has become too quick. Maybe they should give more responsibility to the assistant referees.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Coop's on December 31, 2010, 08:41:20 AM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.
       I've been observing for sometime now Referees can't keep up with the pace of the game,i can't understand why they don't get younger guys to Ref,if you notice they are never in position to see anything,players run into them,they get in the way of the ball etc how conditioned can these guys get at their ages. 


At the Interational level Refs have to retire at 44, so that has been addressed. But I agree the game has become too quick. Maybe they should give more responsibility to the assistant referees.
      What are your thoughts on a two Ref system?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Touches on December 31, 2010, 08:49:56 AM
Man Utd boss Sir Alex Ferguson rules out January buys
Sir Alex Ferguson
Ferguson's side are top of the Premier League on goal difference

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson says he will not buy any new players in the January transfer window.

When asked about possible purchases the 69-year-old Scot stated there would "definitely not" be any new arrivals.

But Ferguson hopes to loan out Federico Macheda for the rest of the season to increase the striker's experience.

The 19-year-old Italian, who has made seven appearances in the Premier League this season, has been linked with former club Lazio, Roma and Bolton.

Ferguson confirmed that Macheda's fellow forwards, Danny Welbeck and Mame Biram Diouf, will remain on loan at Sunderland and Blackburn respectively.

Welbeck has enjoyed success on Wearside and Ferguson is hopeful Macheda could have a similarly productive time away from Old Trafford.
   
606: DEBATE
Don't see us having any real money to chase the big players.

diamondcementhead

England Under-21 international Welbeck has made 18 league appearances for Sunderland, scoring five goals, despite being in competition with expensive recruits Darren Bent and Asamoah Gyan for a place in the Black Cats' strike force.

"I had a chat with Federico and explained the Welbeck situation," said Ferguson.

"It can pan out exactly the same for him. It would be the same thing, going to a club, getting that experience for six months and coming back to us a better player."

Macheda made an immediate impact on his Red Devils debut with a superb injury-time winner against Aston Villa in April 2009 and a four-year deal followed in December to extend his stay at Old Trafford until June 2014.

However, the success of summer signing Javier Hernandez and the return to fitness of Michael Owen look set to limit Macheda's chances up front for Manchester United.

Ferguson has concentrated his spending on the summer break in recent years and did not sign any players in January 2010.

He did sign two players in the January window the year before but Serbian winger Zoran Tosic left for CSKA Moscow in June after five first-team appearances while Belgian defender Richie de Laet only returned from a loan spell with Preston on Thursday.

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De Laet and forward Joshua King's loans at Deepdale were due to expire after the match against Crystal Palace on 3 January, but they have returned to Old Trafford early in the wake of Ferguson's son, Darren, being sacked as Preston manager.

United agreed a deal for Danish goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard with Aalesund in November and the 26-year-old will be available for selection from January.

Ferguson conceded that he may have to reinforce his squad by recalling midfielder Tom Cleverley from his loan spell with Wigan.

Cleverley has been away from Old Trafford for almost two years, impressing on loan spells at Leicester and Watford before taking up the option of a temporary spell at the DW Stadium.

"Tom has done excellently as well but the agreement with him was always that we would review it in January," said Ferguson.

"I have a fantastic relationship with Wigan so I have not discussed it any further than that.

"The only problem is that we have lost Park Ji-sung to the Asia Cup for the whole of January and I don't have Antonio Valencia back until the end of February, so we are a bit light in that respect in terms of wide positions."

Ferguson expects Paul Scholes to return to training next week in a further boost to his midfield options.

The 35-year-old has not played since injuring his groin in the Champions League win over Rangers on 24 November.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 31, 2010, 09:31:31 AM
Cleverley will return... Kiko will go out on loan

With Scholes, Nani and Owen coming back to fitness the squad will be strong in January... also Park(Jan 31st) and Valencia(mid feb) will be back soon enough too

I would love to see us bring Becks back on a Henrik Larsson type deal..3 months with the option of 6... Role Model, Shirt Sales, Proper exit from the club, United Legend...and he could still f**king play... ENTER THE BECKS  :D.... I know it wont happen but I think that can be a master stroke
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on December 31, 2010, 10:40:07 AM
Far too many games are being decided by poor referee an assistant referee decisions. So much inconsistency! From offside, to hand ball, ball over the goal line and tackling, you really don't know what is the actual interpretation anymore. Souring the dam game.
       I've been observing for sometime now Referees can't keep up with the pace of the game,i can't understand why they don't get younger guys to Ref,if you notice they are never in position to see anything,players run into them,they get in the way of the ball etc how conditioned can these guys get at their ages. 


At the Interational level Refs have to retire at 44, so that has been addressed. But I agree the game has become too quick. Maybe they should give more responsibility to the assistant referees.
      What are your thoughts on a two Ref system?

I would like to see it  at least attempted> Each responsible for one half of the field. Assisted by the assistant referees
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on January 01, 2011, 07:20:49 AM
Is how many different ways they go find to tief for ManU?
Clear penalty and red card against Neville, ref ent even stop to think about it. Steups!
 :bs:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on January 01, 2011, 08:07:22 AM
WBA finally get a penalty and f*** it up royally!
Game loss right there.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 01, 2011, 08:19:14 AM
WBA finally get a penalty and f*** it up royally!
Game loss right there.

:heehee: hernandez score
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on January 01, 2011, 08:24:47 AM
WBA finally get a penalty and f*** it up royally!
Game loss right there.

Shocking! ???
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 01, 2011, 08:40:11 AM
we grind out a win there , whew !
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 01, 2011, 08:45:43 AM
Hallmark of Champions

and before everyone talks about WBA penalty claim I hope they bring up the clear handball before Chicharito scored

WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT


Massive 3 points... expecting Arsenal to f**k up at Birmingham
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Observer on January 01, 2011, 09:26:12 AM
Hallmark of Champions

and before everyone talks about WBA penalty claim I hope they bring up the clear handball before Chicharito scored

WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT


Massive 3 points... expecting Arsenal to f**k up at Birmingham

One is directly related to the other. If he had the balls to make the first call (plus the sending off), he would not have had to make the "make up call."
That being said WesB only have themself to blame
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on January 01, 2011, 10:30:03 AM
Hallmark of Champions

and before everyone talks about WBA penalty claim I hope they bring up the clear handball before Chicharito scored

WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT


Massive 3 points... expecting Arsenal to f**k up at Birmingham

One is directly related to the other. If he had the balls to make the first call (plus the sending off), he would not have had to make the "make up call."
That being said WesB only have themself to blame

We done know Small Mag doh care how. As long as they win.
That said, WBA have theyself to blame.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 01, 2011, 10:34:10 AM
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Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: elan on January 01, 2011, 01:42:16 PM
HE'S BACK, HE'S BACK
HE FLEW OVER THE MOON AND AROUND THE WORLD
HE'S BACK, HE'S BACK
THE BEST STORY TO BE TOLD
HE'S BACK, HE'S BACK
THE GREATEST GOAL SCORER IN THE WORLD
ROONEY, ROONEY
THE BOY OF OLD

 :devil:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 08:35:09 AM
Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 08:42:51 AM
Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 09:01:14 AM
Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on January 02, 2011, 09:19:13 AM
HE'S BACK, HE'S BACK
HE FLEW OVER THE MOON AND AROUND THE WORLD
HE'S BACK, HE'S BACK
THE BEST STORY TO BE TOLD
HE'S BACK, HE'S BACK
THE GREATEST GOAL SCORER IN THE WORLD
ROONEY, ROONEY
THE BOY OF OLD

 :devil:

You have a chant for John Terry?
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bitter on January 02, 2011, 09:21:39 AM
WDMC!!!

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 09:27:18 AM
WDMC!!!



The look on the Chelski players faces was priceless!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 02, 2011, 09:30:17 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: D.H.W on January 02, 2011, 09:30:39 AM
 :devil: epic game. 2 points dropped for chelsea. Villa buss alyuh bubble HA!  :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 09:34:02 AM
Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 09:35:42 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 02, 2011, 09:37:09 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 09:39:24 AM

Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 09:40:58 AM
Jose must be laughing his arse off, especially when Terry led the posse to hug the manager to show support!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 09:52:28 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit

You are the oooooooooooooonly person, amongst ANYBODY watchin' the game that call that ball coming off his shoulder to be a hand ball.


Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.

I never see none of my players jump in mid fackin air and drop-kick nobody on they chest, (jonny evans on Drogba), they belly (ferdinand on Sagna, then on somebody ELSE the following week) or perform the kinda pugilistic surgery on people like vidic does, week in, week out.  But yuh know what.....allyuh manager doh show it, so askin' the ress ah allyuh to show some honesty and class is askin' a lot much.  
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 10:08:37 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit

You are the oooooooooooooonly person, amongst ANYBODY watchin' the game that call that ball coming off his shoulder to be a hand ball.


Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.

I never see none of my players jump in mid fackin air and drop-kick nobody on they chest, (jonny evans on Drogba), they belly (ferdinand on Sagna, then on somebody ELSE the following week) or perform the kinda pugilistic surgery on people like vidic does, week in, week out.  But yuh know what.....allyuh manager doh show it, so askin' the ress ah allyuh to show some honesty and class is askin' a lot much.  

That is rich coming from a person who supports Chelski and also has a team with a thug like Terry in it who has committe worse and similar fouls. But take win cause I know yuh hurtin and you drinking extra helpings of Haterade!
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 02, 2011, 10:22:17 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit

You are the oooooooooooooonly person, amongst ANYBODY watchin' the game that call that ball coming off his shoulder to be a hand ball.


Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.

I never see none of my players jump in mid fackin air and drop-kick nobody on they chest, (jonny evans on Drogba), they belly (ferdinand on Sagna, then on somebody ELSE the following week) or perform the kinda pugilistic surgery on people like vidic does, week in, week out.  But yuh know what.....allyuh manager doh show it, so askin' the ress ah allyuh to show some honesty and class is askin' a lot much.  


I said below his shoulder idiot... which is a handball... I know Chelsea fans are retarded but read properly
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 10:40:31 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit

You are the oooooooooooooonly person, amongst ANYBODY watchin' the game that call that ball coming off his shoulder to be a hand ball.


Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.

I never see none of my players jump in mid fackin air and drop-kick nobody on they chest, (jonny evans on Drogba), they belly (ferdinand on Sagna, then on somebody ELSE the following week) or perform the kinda pugilistic surgery on people like vidic does, week in, week out.  But yuh know what.....allyuh manager doh show it, so askin' the ress ah allyuh to show some honesty and class is askin' a lot much.  

That is rich coming from a person who supports Chelski and also has a team with a thug like Terry in it who has committe worse and similar fouls. But take win cause I know yuh hurtin and you drinking extra helpings of Haterade!


  Listen, the closest I ever see a Chelsea player come to committing the kinda tackle I described was when Bosingwa shove a man wit he foot by de corner flag a couple seasons ago..  NO Chelsea fan I know, condoned that shit!   The thing is, Terry is not as much a "thug" as some of y'all try to make him out....his style of play is very typical of the English style of football that uses physicality to compensate for the lack of flair that you see in other leagues and it is par for the course in English football.  manu does it, liverpool does it.  All the teams do it in all the english leagues.  But when players and teams go a little (if not a lot) above and beyond the "typical" like the kinds of tactics I described in the previous posts.....that does kill me.  IMO, Ballack was a much bigger thug than Terry and I always called him out on it.  manu players does get away wit murder ALL DE TIME and allyuh does just plead the fith.  Please, please, please....be a little more honest and a little less biased when allyuh drop allyuh comments nuh.  It goes a long way in being viewd as more than just your "typical" irrational manu fan.   :beermug:  
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 02, 2011, 10:46:18 AM

  Listen, the closest I ever see a Chelsea player come to committing the kinda tackle I described was when Bosingwa shove a man wit he foot by de corner flag a couple seasons ago..  NO Chelsea fan I know, condoned that shit!  

hmmmmn... dat musse why dinho have it in he signature, because he eh cononing de foul (that wasn't called) on Benayoun. 

Also, me eh getting in allyuh li'l lovers' spat, but Terry is a very good defender, prone to getting frustrated and making some very cynical tackles.  He gets away with it b/c he's "England's captain" and all that nonesense.  It is ridiculous to say that what he does is par for the course in English football.  That said, on balance ManU fans have no business talking about cynical (or even reckless) tackles, not while Fletcher and Scholes still running out fuh dem.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 10:51:55 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit

You are the oooooooooooooonly person, amongst ANYBODY watchin' the game that call that ball coming off his shoulder to be a hand ball.


Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.

I never see none of my players jump in mid fackin air and drop-kick nobody on they chest, (jonny evans on Drogba), they belly (ferdinand on Sagna, then on somebody ELSE the following week) or perform the kinda pugilistic surgery on people like vidic does, week in, week out.  But yuh know what.....allyuh manager doh show it, so askin' the ress ah allyuh to show some honesty and class is askin' a lot much.  


I said below his shoulder idiot... which is a handball... I know Chelsea fans are retarded but read properly


  I know what you said, little c**t.  You can't help but to be dogmatic.   I am telling you that YOU are the only one who seemed to  have "seen" it to be below the shoulder and not at his shoulder as it seems that most reasonable people are waiting to see a more definitive view before making a false claim.  Neither of the commentators mad a mention about it coming off his "bicep"and they have the advantage of their own monitor and a production crew to assist in bringing that to the fore.   Maybe I should resort to comic book art  instead of  making inferences just for you.
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Arazi on January 02, 2011, 10:52:39 AM
Chow i dunno why you even bothering to argue with them Man U men, you better off watching Fox News to get objectivity than from them...
Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 02, 2011, 10:58:52 AM
Chelsea are a joke.... shit penalty and handball by Drogba for the 2-2 and conceding 3 at home

Shit side is shit side... great stuff by Villa today

  .......hand ball by Drogba?!?!....dah cocaine yuh sniffin' have baking soda in it, hoss.  yuh gettin' robbed.

watch the replay..it came off his bicep...would have been tough to see from the ref's angle... but the replay showed it came off below his shoulder.. not the shot eh.. it was the leap when it got to Malouda i think then it came back to Drogba who slammed it in

anyway..the point is..your side is shit

You are the oooooooooooooonly person, amongst ANYBODY watchin' the game that call that ball coming off his shoulder to be a hand ball.


Essien is big a goat as Scholes when it comes to making stupid and dangerous tackles!


  ONE bad tackle makin' yuh put him in such........esteemed company?  How come allyuh manu fans doh be so quick to make the same kinds of comparisons when it requires the giving of credit instead?


Not about one bad tackle, he has been making stupid and dangerous tackles including him getting straight red at the end of the game. And on top of that the man now resorting to serious play acting to get players booked as well as to avoid him self getting booked.

....and dem two karate kick dat ferdinand get away wit wasn't equally stupid, if not apallingly persistent?  Yuh ever really pay attention to the nastiness of vidic? What about jonny evans?  Never mind de karate kick he ress on Drogba last season, ah does see see him STILL gettin' away wit murder out on the field THIS SEASON.........is arright to pelt big stone if yuh live in a glass house yuh know.....but yuh really hadda come outside in de yard first.  
 I mean, I admit, Essien does make some very poor tackles, but I have seen paul "screw loose" scholes jes' pelt blade behind man outta sheer frustration and start walkin' off de field without even lookin' at the ref because he done know......

You have enough players on your team who do the same thing but carry on.

I never see none of my players jump in mid fackin air and drop-kick nobody on they chest, (jonny evans on Drogba), they belly (ferdinand on Sagna, then on somebody ELSE the following week) or perform the kinda pugilistic surgery on people like vidic does, week in, week out.  But yuh know what.....allyuh manager doh show it, so askin' the ress ah allyuh to show some honesty and class is askin' a lot much.  


I said below his shoulder idiot... which is a handball... I know Chelsea fans are retarded but read properly


  I know what you said, little c**t.  You can't help but to be dogmatic.   I am telling you that YOU are the only one who seemed to  have "seen" it to be below the shoulder and not at his shoulder as it seems that most reasonable people are waiting to see a more definitive view before making a false claim.  Neither of the commentators mad a mention about it coming off his "bicep"and they have the advantage of their own monitor and a production crew to assist in bringing that to the fore.   Maybe I should resort to comic book art  instead of  making inferences just for you.

really?  Because I didnt know the commentator's opinion is law... and I've seen alot of complaints about it being a possible handball on many forums by all fans, not just United fans..

Cracking up are we?  I'm Fergie..your Rafa

FACT..Chelsea 3-3.. FACT..5TH... FACT..SHIT SIDEEEEE

 :rotfl:

Title: Re: 2010-2011 English Premier League Thread
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 11:15:08 AM

  Listen, the closest I ever see a Chelsea player come to committing the kinda tackle I described was when Bosingwa shove a man wit he foot by de corner flag a couple seasons ago..  NO Chelsea fan I know, condoned that shit!  

hmmmmn... dat musse why dinho have it in he signature, because he eh cononing de foul (that wasn't called) on Benayoun. 

Also, me eh getting in allyuh li'l lovers' spat, but Terry is a very good defender, prone to getting frustrated and making some very cynical tackles.  He gets away with it b/c he's "England's captain" and all that nonesense.  It is ridiculous to say that what he does is par for the course in English football.  That said, on balance ManU fans have no business talking about cynical (or even reckless) tackles, not while Fletcher and Scholes still running out fuh dem.


   You would have to ask dinho why he had it but obviously my point is that, had the damned foul be