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Title: EPL Results
Post by: injunchile on August 19, 2006, 12:37:58 PM
Bolton 2-0 Tottenham

Arsenal 1-1 Villa

Newcastle 2- 1 Wigan

Sheffield United 1- 1 Liverpool

Wesham 3- 1 Charlton

Everton 2-  1Watford

Portsmouth 3- 0 Blackburn
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: jub02 on August 19, 2006, 01:13:14 PM
Suprising yet satisfying
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 19, 2006, 02:09:49 PM
Pompey must be rell excited  his team top d table for a day
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: Pompey on August 19, 2006, 05:39:38 PM
Pompey must be rell excited  his team top d table for a day

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

we are top of the league I said we are top of the league :cheers:

we were great today (and Blackburn were pretty poor). we all doubted the signing of Kanu but he looked good when he came on. Benjani though was different class, he was awesome.

look out Chelsea, here we come :beermug:

it won;t last, so I'll get excited about it while I can ;D
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: jub02 on August 19, 2006, 05:43:19 PM
Pompey must be rell excited  his team top d table for a day

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

we are top of the league I said we are top of the league :cheers:

we were great today (and Blackburn were pretty poor). we all doubted the signing of Kanu but he looked good when he came on. Benjani though was different class, he was awesome.

look out Chelsea, here we come :beermug:

it won;t last, so I'll get excited about it while I can ;D

Im thinking maybe 10th for Portsmouth. Maybe a bit higher or a bit lower.
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: Grande on August 19, 2006, 09:01:47 PM
Pompey must be rell excited  his team top d table for a day

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

we are top of the league I said we are top of the league :cheers:

we were great today (and Blackburn were pretty poor). we all doubted the signing of Kanu but he looked good when he came on. Benjani though was different class, he was awesome.

look out Chelsea, here we come :beermug:

it won;t last, so I'll get excited about it while I can ;D

Kanu is an excellent signing. Hard to believe he is only 31...seems like he has been around fuh much longer.

Liverpool get away today....that penalty should not have been called. But good work by Sheffield.
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: onlikecorn on August 19, 2006, 10:30:45 PM
although arsenal draw. . .i is seein real potential fuh big tings to happn. . .in de new emirates stadium. . .

Title: Steven Gerrard in mid-season form arready!!
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 20, 2006, 12:41:07 AM
 Gerrard done start wit he divin' nonsense already.  The man has not skipped a BEAT!!  If there was ANY contact at all on that so-called foul, I don't think even a spider would have felt it on its web!!  But little Stevie damned near broke his NECK!!   After the game the referee defended his decision......wid a straight face.........and Rafa Benitez said that after watching the replay "....it was CLEARLY a penalty...." OH-KAY, Rafa.....and went on to cry about decisions liverpool wasn't getting during the game  :whistling: wid a straight face!! 
Title: Re: Steven Gerrard in mid-season form arready!!
Post by: Ocky on August 20, 2006, 03:51:50 AM
You must be watching a different game to me, he tried to stay on his feet and even got his shot away. How could he have done that if he dived like you say??

Title: Re: Steven Gerrard in mid-season form arready!!
Post by: jub02 on August 20, 2006, 06:16:12 AM
Gerrard done start wit he divin' nonsense already.  The man has not skipped a BEAT!!  If there was ANY contact at all on that so-called foul, I don't think even a spider would have felt it on its web!!  But little Stevie damned near broke his NECK!!   After the game the referee defended his decision......wid a straight face.........and Rafa Benitez said that after watching the replay "....it was CLEARLY a penalty...." OH-KAY, Rafa.....and went on to cry about decisions liverpool wasn't getting during the game  :whistling: wid a straight face!! 

Wut u talkin bout.. Gerrard didnt dive, he was runnin at full speed and he lift he leg up to avoid the tackle..he lose his balance coz of that . but if he didnt lift he leg up he cudda jus fell over like anyone else. he even tried to get the shot in.
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: andre samuel on August 20, 2006, 06:25:38 AM
gerrard didnt dive, he tried to stay on his feet.  Contact was minimal, but Jakeilka came in kinda hard and missed the ball completely and did enough to put gerrard off his stride.

Would it have been a foul outside the box?....yes it would, so why not in the box?

Why does a man have to be severly damaged in the box for someone to say its a penalty?

A penalty is simply a foul in the penalty area, and that was a foul!

Title: Re: Steven Gerrard in mid-season form arready!!
Post by: Feliziano on August 20, 2006, 06:37:55 AM
Gerrard done start wit he divin' nonsense already.  The man has not skipped a BEAT!!  If there was ANY contact at all on that so-called foul, I don't think even a spider would have felt it on its web!!  But little Stevie damned near broke his NECK!!   After the game the referee defended his decision......wid a straight face.........and Rafa Benitez said that after watching the replay "....it was CLEARLY a penalty...." OH-KAY, Rafa.....and went on to cry about decisions liverpool wasn't getting during the game  :whistling: wid a straight face!! 
what de hell you was watching boy?lol
was a blatant penalty and de man shoulda been sent off cause he was de last man

anyway you woulda prefer Gerrard to fall down and not continue to try and score?
cause he defintely coulda gone to ground more dramitacally than dat and still get the penalty.
i'm glad he still tried to continue running with the ball and not dive and roll round like a Pires, Henry or Ronaldo..steups
Title: Manutd vs Fullham
Post by: andre samuel on August 20, 2006, 07:16:15 AM
is four nill and only 40 minutes gone.........

saha, rooney, ronaldo, own goal.......

smile small magician, smile

ah love it!!..........is chelsea turn later!!
Title: Re: Manutd vs Fullham
Post by: freakazoid on August 20, 2006, 07:30:20 AM
where small magician?  u side running ball moving off d ball and interchanging and rooney and ronaldo have no issues on d field
Title: Re: Manutd vs Fullham
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 20, 2006, 07:40:32 AM
where small magician?  u side running ball moving off d ball and interchanging and rooney and ronaldo have no issues on d field

4-1 HT   second half now starting   i watching it on guandong on sopcast

and yes i'm smiling  ;D
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 20, 2006, 07:41:45 AM
gerrard didnt dive, he tried to stay on his feet. Contact was minimal, but Jakeilka came in kinda hard and missed the ball completely and did enough to put gerrard off his stride.

Would it have been a foul outside the box?....yes it would, so why not in the box?

Why does a man have to be severly damaged in the box for someone to say its a penalty?

A penalty is simply a foul in the penalty area, and that was a foul!


Gerrard done start wit he divin' nonsense already.  The man has not skipped a BEAT!!  If there was ANY contact at all on that so-called foul, I don't think even a spider would have felt it on its web!!  But little Stevie damned near broke his NECK!!   After the game the referee defended his decision......wid a straight face.........and Rafa Benitez said that after watching the replay "....it was CLEARLY a penalty...." OH-KAY, Rafa.....and went on to cry about decisions liverpool wasn't getting during the game  :whistling: wid a straight face!! 

Wut u talkin bout.. Gerrard didnt dive, he was runnin at full speed and he lift he leg up to avoid the tackle..he lose his balance coz of that . but if he didnt lift he leg up he cudda jus fell over like anyone else. he even tried to get the shot in.
You must be watching a different game to me, he tried to stay on his feet and even got his shot away. How could he have done that if he dived like you say??


gerrard didnt dive, he tried to stay on his feet. Contact was minimal, but Jakeilka came in kinda hard and missed the ball completely and did enough to put gerrard off his stride.

Would it have been a foul outside the box?....yes it would, so why not in the box?

Why does a man have to be severly damaged in the box for someone to say its a penalty?

A penalty is simply a foul in the penalty area, and that was a foul!


  Well, I will at least say that all of you are right in the sense that he did "try to stay on his feet" and didn't "dive" in the usual sense of the word. but given the context of the meaning "diving" in the sport of football (which seems to be lost on all of you) is that he lost his balance as a result of skipping over and avoiding the tackle.........and he DID avoid the tackle, yet he started to appeal to the referee for the penalty as soon as he hit the ground.  I didn't watch the game but even the folks on Fox who showed the highlights felt that there was no contact, so, maybe I was watching the same highlights they were.     
Title: Re: Manutd vs Fullham
Post by: futbolfan on August 20, 2006, 07:50:26 AM
paging Palos ;D waiz dah one  ;D
Title: Re: Manutd vs Fullham
Post by: andre samuel on August 20, 2006, 08:24:59 AM
make dat 5-1, rooney score again!!

feliziano smiling too!!

come on chelsea..........do it!!

match de red devils
Title: Re: Manutd vs Fullham
Post by: Reaper2004 on August 20, 2006, 08:33:24 AM
HELL YEA!! LETS GO UNITED!!! TO THE TOP OF THE FRAKKING TABLE!!!!
Title: Re: Manutd vs Fullham
Post by: andre samuel on August 20, 2006, 08:36:34 AM
Match Report!!

www.skysports.com

A Premiership record crowd was treated to an Old Trafford exhibition as Manchester United emphatically put down an early title marker with a 5-1 demolition of Fulham.

The 75,111 fans crammed into the expanded venue bore witness to a devastating first-half performance from United, in which the hosts scored four times in the opening 20 minutes.

Louis Saha opened the scoring against his former club and Ian Pearce turned into his own net, while World Cup foes Wayne Rooney and Cristiano Ronaldo proved there is no lingering bad blood with a goal apiece.

Heidar Helguson's deflected shot off Rio Ferdinand lifted Fulham before the break, but Rooney scored another in the second half in a one-sided affair.

Fulham started brightly with debutant Jimmy Bullard spying some slack defending from United to feed a free kick into Papa Bouba Diop, who shot straight at Edwin van der Sar.

But the visitors' resistance lasted just seven minutes as The Red Devils took the lead with a well-worked goal. Saha flicked Rooney's cross-field ball on to Ryan Giggs and promptly darted between the two Fulham centre halves to glance in the Welshman's centre.

Van der Sar made simple stops from a Diop header and Bullard free kick before United scored the first of three goals in the space of five minutes.

A clever pass from Giggs found Rooney, the ball broke for Ronaldo to play Saha into space and his low cross was turned past Antti Niemi by experienced defender Pearce.

United needed no second invitation to go for the jugular and made it 3-0 on 16 minutes. Saha's athletic volley was pushed out by Niemi and Rooney was on hand to convert an easy opportunity from close range.

The Cottagers' defence was spreadeagled and the hosts capitalised again on 19 minutes when Rooney's deep cross evaded Franck Queudrue and his old sparring partner Ronaldo arrived late at the far post to prod past a helpless Niemi.

Saha should have inflicted further damage midway through the first half, but he failed to connect cleanly to a precise ball into the box from fellow Frenchman, Patrice Evra.

On the half hour, the ubiquitous Paul Scholes almost got in on the act when his low drive from 25 yards skidded back off the base of the post and hit Niemi on the back, with the Finnish keeper recovering in time to prevent the ball crossing the line.

Fulham finally brought some cheer to a thoroughly miserable half for Chris Coleman's side on 41 minutes when Helguson collected Bullard's pass and saw his left-foot drive ricochet off Ferdinand and loop tantalisingly over van der Sar.

Gary Neville, who has been struggling with a calf injury, sat out the second half, which started in tepid fashion until Michael Brown incurred the wrath of Giggs for catching the Welshman.

Giggs was booked for a clumsy attempt at retribution and he was soon appealing for a penalty when his cross hit Liam Rosenior on the hand, but a spot kick would have been a harsh award.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and Park Ji-sung were given a run-out on the hour mark before United created a fifth goal on 64 minutes which was a lesson in simplicity.

Scholes fed Ronaldo, who released Wes Brown down the right flank and his pull back was effortlessly swept home by the unmarked Rooney.

The England ace supplied Ronaldo with the chance for what should have been the Portuguese's second goal on 70 minutes, but the winger placed his shot wide of the upright when sent in behind a hapless Fulham defence.

United's intricate passing and movement regularly left Fulham outnumbered and Niemi was on hand to make low stops from a Ronaldo drive and deflected Scholes effort.

Fulham boss Coleman may not have expected much from the game given his side's woeful away record last season, but he would have anticipated greater endeavour, while United will be aware they will face much sterner examinations as the season progresses.

nb: anybody know what dat word in bold mean? ??? (without google!!)

ah love it!!

come sheva, do de trick with yuh hat!!
Title: Re: Manutd vs Fullham
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 20, 2006, 08:55:35 AM
WELL DONE UTD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!            COME ON CITY COME ON CITY COME ON CITY!!
Title: Re: Manutd vs Fullham
Post by: freakazoid on August 20, 2006, 09:06:04 AM
yeah it means being every where at once being ever present, its one of GOd,s characteristics  means the same thing as omnipresent (no google)
Title: Re: Manutd vs Fullham
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 20, 2006, 09:18:11 AM
f**king chelsea now score               ferriera dive and dey geh a free kik and terry score a header
Title: Re: Manutd vs Fullham
Post by: Midknight on August 20, 2006, 09:20:44 AM
f**king chelsea now score               ferriera dive and dey geh a free kik and terry score a header

dat is my captain  :wavetowel:
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: morvant on August 20, 2006, 10:44:27 AM
gerrard didnt dive, he tried to stay on his feet.  Contact was minimal, but Jakeilka came in kinda hard and missed the ball completely and did enough to put gerrard off his stride.

Would it have been a foul outside the box?....yes it would, so why not in the box?

Why does a man have to be severly damaged in the box for someone to say its a penalty?

A penalty is simply a foul in the penalty area, and that was a foul!



nah boy andre boy i feel to get ah penalty in de box de tackle have to be a little more than simple

iz goal yuh goin and get. cyar let ah simple tackle decide ah world cup. thats headache thing
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: Flex on August 20, 2006, 11:12:48 AM
Didier Drogba and Ivan Campo scored 2 real nice goals this weekend boy. I think they good for goal of the week ?
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: doublet750 on August 20, 2006, 12:11:53 PM
indeed lovely build up paly before the drogba goal and meh boy real get low to direct it ....but once again look at the might of chelsea
Title: Re: Manutd vs Fullham
Post by: jub02 on August 20, 2006, 02:08:16 PM
WELL DONE UTD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!            COME ON CITY COME ON CITY COME ON CITY!!

ur really not a true man u fan..hahah
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: dwolfman on August 20, 2006, 03:04:37 PM
I was a bit suprised by the Arsenal result, but they played a good game and will get even better as the season progresses. I didn't think Man U was 5-1 better than Fulham, but they looked the part as a challenger to Chelsea.

Next matchday I think Man U and Chelsea should both win away to Charlton and Middlesborough. We'll see how Pompey does away to Man City. 
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: Grande on August 20, 2006, 07:54:30 PM
Didier Drogba and Ivan Campo scored 2 real nice goals this weekend boy. I think they good for goal of the week ?

Drogba's goal definitely was goal of de week for me...the buildup and the finish. Real sublime. Reminded me of Yorke or Henrik Larsson at their peak.
Title: EPL Wrap up
Post by: Bakes on August 20, 2006, 08:02:38 PM
Yeah ah know it already have ah "EPL Results" thread...but still, some observations on this weekend's EPL (http://www.premierleague.com/fapl.rac?command=forwardOnly&nextPage=homepage) action:

Portsmouth 3 v Blackburn 0- Brad Friedel denies Kanu a hat trick in his Portsmouth debut...penalty shouldn't have been awarded in the first place...but good job by Kanu all the same.

Liverpool 1 v Sheffield United 1- Gerrard took a dive, contact was minimal at best (non-existent from what I saw)...this from a llongtime Liverpool supporter.

Fullham 1 v Man. United 5 - Saha, Rooney and Ronaldo played well, but Rooney looked to be in fine form being Johnny-on-the-spot on one goal, and executing a clinical one-time finish off a nice Ronaldo pass on the second.

Charlton 1 v West Ham 3 - Say what allyuh want about Zamora, but imagine him upfront with Stern John in Soca Warrior red.  He had to weak goals...but proved to be very opportunistic on both, good football sense on display.  Nice game by Marlon Harewood too...though it won't show up in the stat book.

Arsenal 1 v Aston Villa 1 - only memorable for Theo Walcott making the most of his run

Bolton 2 v Spurs 0 - Unfortunate result for Spurs, first goal should have been disallowed since it came as the result of an uncalled foul.  2nd was a 40-yard pond-skipper that Robinson (continuing his ordinary showing since the World Cup) should have done better with.

Chelsea 3 v Man. City 0 - Chelsea continues it's unbeaten streak at home, undefeated at Stamford Bridge in Morinho's two years there.  Good to see Terry getting right into goal-scoring form...albeit a month too late for us Englan fans.

Everton 2 v Watford 1 - Horrendous decision to award Watford a penalty when an attempted cross from the right edge of the penalty box was struck off the head of the defender...somehow the ref and his assistant saw a hand instead, costing Watford a point.

Newcastle 2 v Wigan 1 - Only thing worth mentioning is that Newcastle misses Michael Owen...and will miss Alan Shearer.

Reading 3 v Middlesborough 2 - Ordinary goalkeeping by former MLS standout Marcus Hahnemann almost cost Reading in their debut in the Premiership...but good composure and good play particularly by Seol Kyi-Hyeon to win Reading a point.
Title: Re: EPL Wrap up
Post by: Grande on August 20, 2006, 08:27:03 PM
Yeah ah know it already have ah "EPL Results" thread...but still, some observations on this weekend's EPL (http://www.premierleague.com/fapl.rac?command=forwardOnly&nextPage=homepage) action:

Portsmouth 3 v Blackburn 0- Brad Friedel denies Kanu a hat trick in his Portsmouth debut...penalty shouldn't have been awarded in the first place...but good job by Kanu all the same.

Liverpool 1 v Sheffield United 1- Gerrard took a dive, contact was minimal at best (non-existent from what I saw)...this from a llongtime Liverpool supporter.

Fullham 1 v Man. United 5 - Saha, Rooney and Ronaldo played well, but Rooney looked to be in fine form being Johnny-on-the-spot on one goal, and executing a clinical one-time finish off a nice Ronaldo pass on the second.

Charlton 1 v West Ham 3 - Say what allyuh want about Zamora, but imagine him upfront with Stern John in Soca Warrior red.  He had to weak goals...but proved to be very opportunistic on both, good football sense on display.  Nice game by Marlon Harewood too...though it won't show up in the stat book.

Arsenal 1 v Aston Villa 1 - only memorable for Theo Walcott making the most of his run

Bolton 2 v Spurs 0 - Unfortunate result for Spurs, first goal should have been disallowed since it came as the result of an uncalled foul.  2nd was a 40-yard pond-skipper that Robinson (continuing his ordinary showing since the World Cup) should have done better with.

Chelsea 3 v Man. City 0 - Chelsea continues it's unbeaten streak at home, undefeated at Stamford Bridge in Morinho's two years there.  Good to see Terry getting right into goal-scoring form...albeit a month too late for us Englan fans.

Everton 2 v Watford 1 - Horrendous decision to award Watford a penalty when an attempted cross from the right edge of the penalty box was struck off the head of the defender...somehow the ref and his assistant saw a hand instead, costing Watford a point.

Newcastle 2 v Wigan 1 - Only thing worth mentioning is that Newcastle misses Michael Owen...and will miss Alan Shearer.

Reading 3 v Middlesborough 2 - Ordinary goalkeeping by former MLS standout Marcus Hahnemann almost cost Reading in their debut in the Premiership...but good composure and good play particularly by Seol Kyi-Hyeon to win Reading a point.

Conclusions:

1. Kanu was a boss signing for Portsmouth. One of the most gifted players out of Africa and survived heart problems to continue to rip up EPL.

2. Damn right Gerrard dive.

3. 4k Zamora.

4. Come on Arsenal, step the game up.

5. Chelsea played real ball culminating in a sweet diving header from Drogba. Confirmed the fact that they are a major force to be reckoned wit in defending their title. And Shevchenko hungry for 1st EPL goal.

6. Hard luck fuh Watford. If Carlos had sign he woulda share beat down the right, leave a man fuh dead, send in a sweet cross for a man to head in, giving Watford their first EPL point.

7. Middlesbrough choke bad. And their coach have de England job. All credit to newly-promoted Reading, that Korean midfielder is a hardworker and doh stop running. He alone deserve dat win.
Title: Re: EPL Wrap up
Post by: Bakes on August 20, 2006, 08:42:27 PM


Conclusions:

1. Kanu was a boss signing for Portsmouth. One of the most gifted players out of Africa and survived heart problems to continue to rip up EPL.

Yuh know I actually fuhget that it was heart problems that side-tracked his career at Arsenal....extra-nice to see him back in truth.

2. Damn right Gerrard dive.

I shame tuh admit it, but replays doh lie...I understand that it's part ah de game, but ah really doh have no respect for it.

3. 4k Zamora.

Lol...men have realllll bile in dey throat fuh Zamora den.  De man ent do nutten that others (including Shaka himself) have done, I ent go mad.
4. Come on Arsenal, step the game up.

5. Chelsea played real ball culminating in a sweet diving header from Drogba. Confirmed the fact that they are a major force to be reckoned wit in defending their title. And Shevchenko hungry for 1st EPL goal.

6. Hard luck fuh Watford. If Carlos had sign he woulda share beat down the right, leave a man fuh dead, send in a sweet cross for a man to head in, giving Watford their first EPL point.

Correction...Carlos woulda share beat down the right, leave a man fuh dead...and send in a sweet cross tuh de opposite corner... ;D

7. Middlesbrough choke bad. And their coach have de England job. All credit to newly-promoted Reading, that Korean midfielder is a hardworker and doh stop running. He alone deserve dat win.

They FORMER coach yuh mean...
Title: Re: EPL Wrap up
Post by: Feliziano on August 20, 2006, 08:43:03 PM
#8. You didn't write this right?..albeit a month too late for us Englan fans. lol

#9. Merge it fuh dat mods  ;D

#10. Gerrard didn't dive..he merely lost his balance..he didn't even appeal for a penalty as some people claim.

#11. Ameobi could handle it this season fuh Newcastle.

#12. That going to be Kanu only good game this season.

#13. Seol from Reading was outstanding.
Title: Re: EPL Wrap up
Post by: Bakes on August 20, 2006, 08:59:25 PM
#8. You didn't write this right?..albeit a month too late for us Englan fans. lol

#9. Merge it fuh dat mods  ;D

#10. Gerrard didn't dive..he merely lost his balance..he didn't even appeal for a penalty as some people claim.

#11. Ameobi could handle it this season fuh Newcastle.

#12. That going to be Kanu only good game this season.

#13. Seol from Reading was outstanding.

De Warriors supplanted England as mih squad in Germany...but I rooting fuh England 20 years now (gawd...is so long since "Hands of God"????  :o) they still ah close second.

We could go back and forth on Gerrard (ah saw yuh post in de other thread)...but breeze hit Shearer harder before.  Agree that he lost his balance...but not from defensive contact.

Too early to tell fuh Kanu...but I love opportunistic strikers...yuh can't teach that.

Seol was outstanding...agreed, props to S. Korea for placing about 3 (by my count) national team members in the Premiership.  Good start for Seol coming over from Wolverhampton.
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: Bitter on August 21, 2006, 03:12:12 PM
They showing the Arsenal - Aston Villa game on Goltv right now, 1st half just done.
Villa eh playing they defending nah, the whole game is in the villa half with the odd villa breakaway...
Title: Re: EPL Wrap up
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 22, 2006, 08:41:35 AM
#8. You didn't write this right?..albeit a month too late for us Englan fans. lol

#9. Merge it fuh dat mods  ;D

#10. Gerrard didn't dive..he merely lost his balance..he didn't even appeal for a penalty as some people claim.
#11. Ameobi could handle it this season fuh Newcastle.

#12. That going to be Kanu only good game this season.

#13. Seol from Reading was outstanding.

    ........So what do you think he was gesturing to the referee for and telling the referee when his "bum" was on the ground?!?  (Watch the hihlights/replays again and wipe off yuh glasses this time) 
  Yuh think he was tellin' the referee that the pitch needed watering?:  "C'mon ref, the ground's too bloody 'ard! Get some water on it, will you?" 
   Since a whole lotta people, including the media, the comentators and even a liverpool supporter or two have said it wasn't a penalty that the liverfoolians that had come out wit dey guns blastin on  de weekend eh have nutt'n to say bout it again.  Ah love it, too!!
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: jub02 on August 22, 2006, 08:54:25 AM
He didnt take a dive..he was runnin at full speed so of course he gonna fall over. He lift he leg up to avoid contact..but if he didnt it wuddda be a pen anyway.

Of course he gonna ask for a pen when he fall over in the box..who AINT gonna ask for a pen ?
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 22, 2006, 09:26:35 AM
He didnt take a dive..he was runnin at full speed so of course he gonna fall over. He lift he leg up to avoid contact..but if he didnt it wuddda be a pen anyway.

Of course he gonna ask for a pen when he fall over in the box..who AINT gonna ask for a pen ?


     When I played my mangy little years of school and recreational football, youngster, I DIDN'T  ask the referee for fouls if no fouls were committed.  That is how I learned to play the game: with class, sportsmanship and "Fair Play"  we didn't need no fair play banner!!   Now that I coach youngsters, I teach them what I was taught.  I teach them to play clean, play fair and use SKILL!! Cll me an unrealistic idealist, but I rather be that and produce players that think "game first" rather than the ones that think "cheat first"  If this is what you are being taught where you are learning "The beautiful game", that as soon as you feel or can anticipate contact, you start working on your appeal to get a foul called/man carded/penalty awarded, then you are being robbed of a lot of lessons in sport and in life and I pity you and your coaches.  If this trend continues (which ai see it is) football will become a totally different sport by the time the next generation comes around!
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: JDB on August 22, 2006, 09:56:33 AM
Gerrard didn't dive but that WAS NOT  a foul.

Not even close. Since when you could foul someone without contact? gerrard make his play, lose his balance and fall down plain and simple.

I don't know what that ref was smoking.
Title: Re: EPL Results
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 22, 2006, 10:09:44 AM
Gerrard didn't dive but that WAS NOT  a foul.

Not even close. Since when you could foul someone without contact? gerrard make his play, lose his balance and fall down plain and simple.

I don't know what that ref was smoking.

   I agree with everything you said, but where I take issue with Gerrard was that when he "fell" to the ground, he was appealing to the referee for a penalty.  Now alot of the same people that would defend Gerrard for doing that, are the same people who criticized Ronaldo for getting involved and getting Rooney sent off in the WC.  I feel that there was absolutely no contact and Gerrard did try to stay on his feet and did lose his balance as a result, but, in typical Gerrard-like fashion, he was quick to appeal for the penalty didn't he?  He even had an exchange with the player that "fouled" him as if to justify his appeal.
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