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Chris Birchall steps to Gold Cup call.
By: Shaun Fuentes.[/size]
Trinidad and Tobago’s latest English recruit Chris Birchall arrived in Ft Lauderdale on Monday evening to join the rest of the National team in preparations for the coming CONCACAF Gold Cup eager to put on a good show in an international competition while his club teammates were getting set for preseason training in England.
The 21-year-old Birchall took up the invitation from head coach Leo Beenhakker to join the team for the Gold Cup despite pleads from Port Vale manager Martin Foyle for him to sit it out in order to be fully energized for Vale in the upcoming season.
Foyle was earlier eager for Birchall to make his international debut leading up to the 2-0 win over Panama but is apparently not as pleased over his schedule with the “Warriors.”
“Chris has made his decision and decided to go, so there is no point getting angry about it. I hope he learns from the experience and can rest at the right time. I also hope they get knocked out of the Gold Cup early so he can come back,” Foyle said in the Sentinel newspaper on Monday.
Birchall however wasn’t the least fazed by the remarks from Foyle.
“It’s great to be back here with the boys because it’s like coming to a family again since I haven’t seen them since the game in Mexico. Coming out here is also a good experience for me because it’s the first time I’ll be playing out here in America and especially being involved in the Gold Cup is a big occasion for me,” Birchall told TTFF Media.
“We’re here to get things right again before the World Cup matches start back,” he added
Birchall arrived in Ft Lauderdale along with Shaka Hislop, Brent Rahim, Marvin Andrews, Kelvin Jack and Dennis Lawrence while the rest of the team flew in from Trinidad earlier on Monday. Defender Brent Sancho was due in later in the evening while Luton Town midfielder Carlos Edwards arrives on Tuesday. Cornell Glen and Stern John also met the team at the hotel on Monday in time for the 5pm training session.
Beenhakker conducted a session at the training pitch located within the Hilton compound which was merely one to get the players to shake off the three-hour flight out of Piarco and the camp is expected to increase pace from Tuesday.
The Dutch-born coach has already indicated that his experience will have an impact on the preparation of the team and he will not back down to managers who think they can convince players from representing T&T.
On the days of training ahead, Beenhakker added “We have all the players we requested and that shows how much they want to play and get it right as a team. There might be some who may not like it, but for us, doing the right thing and having everyone showing that commitment is what is a plus for us.”
News from the 26th of June 2005.
Glen gunning, fans wait on ‘Warriors’ in Miami.
By: Shaun Fuentes.[/size]
Columbus Crew striker Cornell Glen is gunning to wear the Trinidad and Tobago colours in the upcoming CONCACAF Gold Cup.
So pleased is the speedy striker on being recalled by head coach Leo Beenhakker, the former CL Financial San Juan Jabloteh man is promising to pull out all stock in an attempt to cement a spot on the team.
Glen has been a regular starter in the Crew team for the past six matches after being signed from Dallas FC earlier in the season. It took a while for head coach Greg Andrulis to fit him among the starters but now it seems Glen has left an impression. His latest exploit was a set up for Crew's goal in last week's 3-1 loss to New England Revolution.
“This Gold Cup is going to be a turning point for me,” Glen promised. “Honestly I’m just beginning to catch back myself and playing more and more for Columbus has played a big part in my form at the moment,” he told TTFF Media. “It was obviously disappointing not to be in the team for the last two games but now getting another chance is a good break for me.
“The coach at Columbus told me he had been looking at me for some time now and then he spoke to Stern (John) who apparently had some good things to say and the rest is history now. I am looking forward to making it happen good this time with him up front. I think a lot of people are accustomed with me coming in the side and taking things a bit easy maybe with a lot of jokes and stuff but it’s all serious business now and maybe the current coach will see his philosophy getting results from us as a team,” Glen added. His Crew teammate Luis Gallardo is in the Panama squad as well as Frankie Hejduk in the US team for the tournament.
The former New York/New Jersey MetroStars player will team up with the rest of the T&T team on Monday at the Hilton, Ft Lauderdale for the commencement of a training camp ahead of the opening CONCACAF Gold Cup fixture against Honduras on July 6 at the Orange Bowl, Miami. His other strike partners selected by Beeenhakker include Stern John, Kenwyne Jones, Jason Scotland and Collin Samuel. Both Scotland and Samuel have expressed delight on getting the picks but their Dundee United boss Gordon Chisholm stressed on Friday that he hopes they can return in good form for their club.
“Once before, Jason was away for a couple of weeks and came back overweight, but, even if they are not involved in games, we need them to be doing a bit of training at this time of year. I expect they will make good use of the tournament across there,” said Chisholm.
The “Warriors” can expect a good backing in the stands as a group of T&T.
A group of fans living in Miami have arranged to occupy a section in the stand at T&T’s matches with a “Warrior Girls” posse along with steel pan, tassa and iron rhythm sections in association with fetebusters.com, a non-profit organization in Miami as well as a socawarriors.net crew.
W Connection back to winning ways.
By: Nigel Simon (Guardian).[/size]
W Connection got a goal each from its three foreign imports to end a two-match losing streak in the T&T Professional Football League Senior Division at the Ato Boldon Stadium, Couva, yesterday..
Brazilians Ronaldo Viana and Gefferson Goulart and Earl Jean of St Lucia got strikes for the “Savonetta Boys” to cool off Caledonia AIA/Fire 3-0.
Viana opened the scoring in the eighth minute for his second of the season, while Jean, the team’s captain, doubled the lead in the 28th minute with his seventh of the campaign.
Goulart ended a three-match scoring drought by firing in his team’s third goal in the 76th minute, his eight of the year to complete the win.
W Connection’s eight league win from nine matches carried its point tally to 24 from nine matches, nine ahead of second placed Defence Force.
At Sangre Grande Recreation ground, the return of Jerren Nixon failed to spark champions National Quarries North East Stars, as they were held to a 1-1 draw by Defence Force.
Kayode Mc Kinnon handed Stars the lead in the 19th minute, only for Kwesi Smith to earn Defence Force a share of the points, three minutes later.
Nixon, last year’s league top scorer and “Most Valuable Player” award recipient, got his first taste of action for the season during the last 10 minutes of the match, but could not find a winner.
Over at the Dwight Yorke Stadium, Bacolet, Kelvin Hernandez denied Tobago United a first win this year with an 84th minute goal for United Petrotrin to draw 2-2.
Yesterday’s PFL Senior Division results:
W Connection 3 (Ronaldo Viana 8th, Earl Jean 28th, Gefferson Goulart 76th) vs Caledonia AIA Fire 0.
North East Stars 1 (Kaydoe Mc Kinnon 19th) vs Defence Force 1 (Kwesi Smith 22nd).
Tobago United 2 (Marlon Laidlow 19th, Devon Edwards 71st) vs United Petrotrin 2 (Dave Charles o.g 45th, Kelvin Hernandez 84th).
News from the 25th of June 2005.
Gold Cup recalls for Scotland, Eve, Spann.
By: Shaun Fuentes.[/size]
National Football Team Leo Beenhakker has included Scottish-based strike duo Collin Samuel and Jason Scotland in a 23-man squad to travel to Ft Lauderdale for a one-week training camp ahead of the 2005 CONCACAF Gold Cup which kicks off in Miami on July 6.
Beenhakker, on the heels of guiding T&T to two of their more convincing performances in recent times, will have just about the same team from the recent affairs against Panama and Mexico with the exception of skipper Dwight Yorke who has been excused after indicating the need to be with Sydney FC for preseason from early July. Veteran midfielder Angus Eve makes a return to the squad which will be cut to twenty for the tournament.
Also making a return to the squad is goalie Shaka Hislop with Kelvin Jack and Duarance Williams also making the trip but there is no place for Crewe Alexandra’s Clayton Ince. There is also no place for Real Salt Lake duo Marlon Rojas and Leslie Fitzpatrick nor Wrexham striker Hector Sam. Japan-based midfielder Silvio Spann is also back in the mix with Cyd Gray.
Samuel has not appeared for T&T since June 2003 in a 2-0 win over the Kenyan Olympic Team while Scotland’s last bit of action was in the semi-final round World Cup qualifying 3-1 loss to Mexico last year at the Hasely Crawford Stadium. Scotland ended the Scottish season strongly for Dundee United with 5 goals while Samuel’s input also reportedly helped the club to a fifth place spot and runners up spot in the Scottish Cup which they lost to Celtic.
Glasgow Rangers’ Marvin Andrews, Wrexham’s Dennis Lawrence and Port Vale’s Chris Birchall, despite pleads from their respective clubs to rest up, are all set to appear in the region’s top championship. Defender Brent Sancho is also back from a hamstring injury which forced him out of the Panama and Mexico games.
Beenhakker has stressed the importance of the Gold Cup campaign, using it as a build up to the rest of the World Cup campaign which continues against United States on August 17 in Connecticut.
“Of course we will go to the Gold Cup with an aim to win our matches but more importantly it is a very good chance for us to prepare for the remaining matches in the World Cup campaign. We will be looking to make full use of the matches we have there,” Beenhakker told TTFF Media. “It is my intention to have all the players involved because it’s the only way we can get it better as a team,” he added. Yorke meantime is banking on the “Warriors” going from strength to strength in the Gold Cup.
“I will not be available but I expect that the boys will keep the improvement rate going. We have done quite well as a team over the past two games and without a doubt I think we can only get better,” Yorke told TTFF Media. “I think it’s a chance for some of the younger guys to get a chance to show what they can do and it also gives the coach further options. He’s done a really good job since he’s been in charge and I’m sure this will go on for the benefit of all of us,” the Sydney man added.
The T&T team has been told by the Pro League that the locally-based pros cannot be released until June 28 even though the contingent is expected to leave here the day before for Ft Lauderdale. However, the MLS is releasing all players taking part in the Gold Cup from June 26 and Beenhakker is hoping to have his full list of local-based pros travel from the scheduled departure date of June 27.
T&T, with a best performance of reaching the semi-finals in the 2000 Gold Cup, opens the 2005 edition in the second game of a double header versus Honduras which they defeated 3-1 in the 1998 tournament. T&T plays Panama at the Orange Bowl on July 9 and Colombia on July 11. The Colombians are coming off 3-0 and 5-0 wins over Ecuador and Peru in World Cup qualifying action as well as a close 1-0 defeat to Argentina.
Full TnT 23-Man Squad:
Goalkeepers:
Shaka Hislop (un-attached), Kelvin Jack (Dundee), Duarance Williams (San Juan Jabloteh).
Defenders:
David Atiba Charles (W Connection), Marvin Andrews (Glasgow Rangers), Dennis Lawrence (Wrexham), Brent Sancho (un-attached), Avery John (New England Revolution), Cyd Gray (San Juan Jabloteh), Anton Pierre (Defence Force).
Midfielders:
Angus Eve (San Juan Jabloteh), Aurtis Whitley (San Juan Jabloteh), Brent Rahim (un-attached), Christopher Birchall (Port Vale), Carlos Edwards (Luton Town), Densill Theobald (Caledonia AIA Fire), Silvio Spann (Yokohama FC), Glenton Wolfe (North East Stars).
Forwards:
Kenwyne Jones (Southampton), Collin Samuel (Dundee United), Cornell Glen (Columbus Crew), Jason Scotland (Dundee United), Stern John (Conventry City).
TnT Gold Cup Schedule & TV-Viewing.
T&T vs Honduras (Galavision, 9:15pm).
6th-Jul-2005 - Orange Bowl-Miami, Florida.
T&T vs Panama (Galavision, 7:05pm).
9th-Jul-2005 - Orange Bowl-Miami, Florida.
T&T vs Colombia (Telefutura, 7:05pm).
11th-Jul-2005 - Orange Bowl-Miami, Florida.
Tickets:
For ticket information on the 2005 CONCACAF Gold Cup™ please call 1-888-480-2005.
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hmm real shake ups boy!!! ah feelin' sorry for tiger especially, cuz he does run hard, but I guess he just doh have the skills to make anything happen. I hope coach make stern run real laps so he could get back fit too.
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Ah see it look like Ince in de doghouse ! I'm surprise Sam is out.
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Goalkeepers:
Shaka Hislop (un-attached), Kelvin Jack (Dundee), Duarance Williams (San Juan Jabloteh).
Defenders:
David Atiba Charles (W Connection), Marvin Andrews (Glasgow Rangers), Dennis Lawrence (Wrexham), Brent Sancho (un-attached), Avery John (New England Revolution), Cyd Gray (San Juan Jabloteh), Anton Pierre (Defence Force).
Midfielders:
Angus Eve (San Juan Jabloteh), Aurtis Whitley (San Juan Jabloteh), Brent Rahim (un-attached), Christopher Birchall (Port Vale), Carlos Edwards (Luton Town), Densill Theobald (Caledonia AIA Fire), Silvio Spann (Yokohama FC), Glenton Wolfe (North East Stars).
Forwards:
Kenwyne Jones (Southampton), Collin Samuel (Dundee United), Cornell Glen (Columbus Crew), Jason Scotland (Dundee United), Stern John (Conventry City).
Good team I believe... any surprise omissions I don't really see any... No room for Noray... Ince get de big time blank... I think Cyd Gray is ah surprise inclusion as I hadnt heard anything from him in a while.. How is his form this season.. he still playing wild?
Most of we here bawl down de place and cry for Spann and Glen.. well we get we wish... Lets hope they perform to their potential...
With Lawrence playin well these days... that entire defence looking real solid and deep. I feel really confident about them... ah looking for clean sheets from them
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I am very satisfied with that squad.
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"but there is no place for Crewe Alexandra’s Clayton Ince"
but aye aye look like Ince get drop. :o :o Beenie ain't playin at all. Ah like de list of forwards selected. ppl say we needed speed up front.... now we have it.
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In Beenknee we t'rust...no major additions in the defence....nice to see Spann included after so much speculation....with York out the pressure is on Stern to take de lead....but dis is the ideal time to see how some of the new addons will perform.
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I am surprised Cyd Gray got selected. Nice to see Spann back in the mix. No Ince...hmmm..I starting to believe he really walk out on the team because he warm bench against Panama. It looks like Leo teaching him a lesson. Learn well Imps..I mean Ince. Hopefully he will get his act together because I think we need both Ince and Hislop to qualify for Germany.
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It's also possible that Imps contract negotiations are forcing him to miss the tournament. He was quoted as saying he had to sit down with his manager before he would "consider" playing in the Gold Cup. So it may have been his decision to miss, not Beenie's.
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Japan-based midfielder Silvio Spann is also back in the mix with Cyd Gray.
Although he will be 32 years old in November, I only hope dat Cyd will improve under Beenhakker. He have de raw materials tuh make ah good wing back but he so blasted wild.
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Japan-based midfielder Silvio Spann is also back in the mix with Cyd Gray.
Although he will be 32 years old in November, I only hope dat Cyd will improve under Beenhakker. He have de raw materials tuh make ah good wing back but he so blasted wild.
Cyd Gray is THUTTY-TWO ??!!! :o :o
wayyy!!!!
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Dey fuhget tuh mention dat Gary Glasgow got omitted.
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It will be interesting to see which three get drop from the squad. I think it will be Duarance, Cyd and Wolfe.
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I wonder if Eve is only there to provide some verteran leadership to the squad and keep the fellas in check in Miami since captain Yorke won't be there. Wait, did I just write that?
Or maybe its a kind of farewell tournament for Eve and a reward for captaining the side through all the qualifying rounds. He can't expect much more than a corbeaux sweat though.
It will be interesting to see who we play on de left wing. Colin Samuel is listed as striker but I hope they give him a run on de left. Theobald can fight for a place in the middle with Whitely, Birchall, Spann and Rahim.
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I wonder if Eve is only there to provide some verteran leadership to the squad and keep the fellas in check in Miami since captain Yorke won't be there. Wait, did I just write that?
lol, that's exactly what I was thinking while I was reading your comments. My how tings have changed.
With Glenn, Samuel and all dem midfielders in the camp, if we doh get the left side sorted out dis rounds we might never get it.
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I would love to see Glen & John upfornt, their different styles should compliment each other, I know Lawrence has had some good performances and he throughly deserve his place but my heart skipd a beat everytime I see an attacker with pace go in his direction. Glad to see Sancho back to full health and in the squad because he's a qulaity defender and my heart is a bit more at ease when compared to Lawrence. No shocking inclusions except CYD GRAY.
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I wonder if that is the end of the road for tiger and rojas. Or is it that he want to see other ppl since dem 2 is the foreign-based he woulda see most often already. dem men was flying in every week.
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Ok now that Sancho fit...could he replace any of the current startin back 4...other than "possibly" Avery. but it niece to know that we have ah lil more depth at the back.
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Remember that this tournament is not just to continue improving as a team, but to also see other players who he has not yet seen for himself. So I would not put too much stock in some peoples' omissions (aside from Ince of course, that is a drop!)
The thing is, if Cyd Gray, Spann, Samuel, Scotland and others perform is mas is the place cause men who was on the team before hadda get drop now.
I expect Angus to come with all guns blazing in the Gold Cup to try and regain a spot in the top 21.
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Remember that this tournament is not just to continue improving as a team, but to also see other players who he has not yet seen for himself. So I would not put too much stock in some peoples' omissions (aside from Ince of course, that is a drop!)
The thing is, if Cyd Gray, Spann, Samuel, Scotland and others perform is mas is the place cause men who was on the team before hadda get drop now.
I expect Angus to come with all guns blazing in the Gold Cup to try and regain a spot in the top 21.
I agree with you, I don't think that's it for Rojas & Fitzpatrick, they're descent players but Leo needs to look at a few guys who he has not seen. Angus Eve of course is a good man to have in the squad, even if he doesn't get much playing time his experience in these kind of tournaments may be important in the locker room and he make a difference coming on as a sub especially with free kicks and corners and he still seems hungry. He's been a good servant for T&T and still has a bit to offer.
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This is a serious shake up.. Nice to see Cyd get a lil chance again.. i did not realize he was an old man (32 yrs ). I would love to see what Beenie do with these new players. !
Perhaps the mid field will get a lil stronger, and we have a lot more options in the Back 4.. Pressure take those other teams in the competition.. FIRE fuh dem.!
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Samuel and Scotland could be good additions. Hope they are keeping fit and can impress Beenie in training. Interesting that Glen got picked before Sam or Glasgow after he got left out completely for the last 2 games. Wonder if Beenie is watching those MLS games and keeping track of his form. Or is Nakhid, our scout master?
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No real surprises in de squad. The level of competition would be good to allow guys to get more comfortable with Beenie Man system.
I never thought I would see the day that Ince and Yorke would appear on different sides of the spectrum when folks discuss each player's commitment to the team. 8)
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still wouldve liked to see an ian cox, but squad looks good.
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That is a BIG side from Beenhakker
Imagine Glenn, Scotland,Samuel and Jones as the attack.
4 speed men.
Every man who get drop they replacment adequate.
The schedule is also very kind to us.
once we win the first two....rest some players and try a thing vs Colombia.
Strongest team out in the first game vs Honduras.
Cyd Grey playing good for Jabloteh the last few games I see.....is just he wild. But he can run up a flank he have speed.
I think he is good Tonic for the spanish we playing.
My Fwd line will be Jones and Scotland.
I would also like to see a middle of Birchall, Spann, Whitley and Edwards......pure poison, we go dun side bad with that midfield.
back 4 of Charles,Dog, Tallest and AVery.
Hislop. in the post
1-0 vs Honduras
2-0 vs Panama
and a 1-1 vs Colombia
We come second in the group on goal difference ;D
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Ah tired tellin allyuh dat it WAS Imps decision all along to not play fuh T&T. Is not Beenie who drop he. Imps DID NOT get drop by any member of de technical staff. IMPS DROP HESELF wit he antics after de Panama game.
I so happy to see he name not dey. Me eh have nutting pussonal against Imps but if yuh walk out on yuh team, yuh ass doh deserve to reach back.
Finally a coach who have de guts AND DE AUTHORITY AND AUTONOMY to say haul yuh ass. Other coaches may have had de guts but get overrule by "higher" authorities. Beenie say before he sign on dat he signin on wit de condition dat he doin tings HE WAY and dat he get what he ask for. Anyting else and he walkin. Good fuh he and good to see it in action.
Man who bawlin fuh Imps have to realize, if he did bruk he leg, we woulda have to do without he anyway. Show woulda have to go on. Somebody else step up.
Daz how it is and how it should be. Good luck Clayton wit yuh career at Crewe.
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Ok now that Sancho fit...could he replace any of the current startin back 4...other than "possibly" Avery. but it niece to know that we have ah lil more depth at the back.
I know real men on the forum will disagree, but check that last Mexico match - that first goal Atiba shoulda clear the cross - he mistime he header, and check the 21st min. he head he clearance to a MExican in the box. He had a worse game than Jack in my opinion.
So not sayin Sancho much better with the air balls...and I say give the youth a bligh too eh...but something have to change b4 the US game
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I know real men on the forum will disagree, but check that last Mexico match - that first goal Atiba shoulda clear the cross - he mistime he header, and check the 21st min. he head he clearance to a MExican in the box. He had a worse game than Jack in my opinion.
If I'm not mistaken, it was Carlos Edwards' failure tuh deal wit de cross dat led tuh de first goal. De mistimed header in de 21st minute, wasn't it Lawrence dat was responsible fuh dat?
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Cyd Grey playing good for Jabloteh the last few games I see.....is just he wild. But he can run up a flank he have speed.
I think he is good Tonic for the spanish we playing.
Ah only hope he learn he lessons after Costa Rica tear up he backside in 2001. Here are some quotes from de match report by Irving Ward:
"...the Costa Ricans took advantage of debutant T&T defender Cyd Gray's jittery start at this level from the first blow of referee Joo Kim Young's whistle."
"...Porterfield paid the price for gambling with Gray for the second half..."
"The opportunity was created after another attack down the left flank from the Costa Ricans, who utilised the relatively free flank all match because of Gray's inability to contain veteran striker Hernan Medford."
"With Gray at sea and Angus Eve also failing to provide some sort of cover for his Joe Public teammate, the Costa Ricans were left with loads of time to set up a barrage of attacks and shots at Hislop's goal."
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GREAT squad. now lets see what the team looks like in 2 weeks..we can only go from strength to strength I feel. Fuh me, two (2) Surprises -
1st Cyd Gray IN and Tiger OUT. Happy 4 Cyd though, he plays with GREAT heart, just TOO wild as man mention :}
2nd I would have liked to see Sealy get a bligh as a striker and Samuel in the( left) mid-field in place of Eve
Tough luck for Ince, but when you a dig a hole for yourself...
Good Luck T&T, with Beenie I feel we goin Germany!!!"
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Kudos for a coach who is presenting opportunities for players to represent TNT. I would say by the end of the Gold Cup campaign, most of our talented and palyers most apt to representTnt would have had an audition for the coach. In this way, the coach is able to make some informed decisions about who is best able to perform for the rest of the WCQ campaign.
Based on what I read about Spann's performance in his last outings, it sounded as if he was a formidable force in the midfield until he got injured. It is also good to see ablend of youth and experience on this team.
It would also appear that some players react differently to adversary. Take Ince for example, based on what I am reading, it appears that his reactions to the coache's decision was not the most positive, therefore he may now be facing the consequences. I believed that Ian Cox also left disgruntled at being omitted from the team earlier on. Humiltiy is a virtue that some of our so called 'star boyz' must come to grips with.
Positively, our team last couple of games were on a high. I would hope that the momentum would keep on te same plane. What I find different about this WCQ, is that in some previous years, we have started out of the gate would favourable results, only to see after the month or two off, to falter in the second half. I am anxiously waiting to see how our team will perform now that Beenie will have to face all the teams once more in the second round. It is with cautious optimism that I await these results. I would also like to see, Stern get in a goal scoring groove or else.........
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I know real men on the forum will disagree, but check that last Mexico match - that first goal Atiba shoulda clear the cross - he mistime he header, and check the 21st min. he head he clearance to a MExican in the box. He had a worse game than Jack in my opinion.
If I'm not mistaken, it was Carlos Edwards' failure tuh deal wit de cross dat led tuh de first goal. De mistimed header in de 21st minute, wasn't it Lawrence dat was responsible fuh dat?
Tallman yuh spot on here as usual... Charles had a very good game against Mexico
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I notice Glenton Wolfe name showing up on Beenie's squad right thru but I never see de man play yet. He is listed as a midfielder but I see men talking about he at left back on this site before. Can anyone provide some more information on this player? Does he have a chance to make de final 20?
Or is he only there because he can carry more water than Derek King?
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I would love to see Glen & John upfornt, their different styles should compliment each other, I know Lawrence has had some good performances and he throughly deserve his place but my heart skipd a beat everytime I see an attacker with pace go in his direction. Glad to see Sancho back to full health and in the squad because he's a qulaity defender and my heart is a bit more at ease when compared to Lawrence. No shocking inclusions except CYD GRAY.
horse,
Lawrence safer than Sancho by far
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Cyd Gray has good speed, something I find we lackin lately. Leo will get the best out of him.
I woulda like to se Sam get another run though, he showed something.
This is directed at Touches,
how you organizing that midfield of Spann, Whitley, Birchall and Edwards. I like that midfield alot but it seems like we have a right wing and 3 centre mids.
Maybe Cornell Glen would be a good option on the left. Good speed. Speed kills.
I would also like to see Whitley be as creative as he is with Jabloteh. Man could be our Ronaldinho/Nakata but he look lil subdued lately
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That goal was Edwards fault not Charles.
Cyd is a wild wild wild wild wild horse but he recovers well. I actually think that he is more useful when the team is in attack than in defence because he gets all the way up the field which is a worry for the opposition. His other problem is the wayward crosses but I see Fenwick have him doing less crosses and more cut backs to Johnson so that the cross is shorter and he doesnt spray into the stands them if he gets back the ball from Johnson to make the cross.
I still wouldnt pick him if I was Beenie, but hey Beenie must have seen something in him and I think he wants to see if the team can bring some more speed on counterattacks hence why he picked such a speedy team overall.
The way Whitley plays I think is down to the coach he has talking to him. Whitley seems much creative with Jabloteh because Fenwick plays him in a more attacking role than Beenie does. Fenwick lets him keep the ball. Beenie makes him stay back to receive and distribute ( I'm talking here from what I saw in the Panama and Mexico games), Fenwick lets him take it upfield alone if he can. The games I have seen recently whenever he gets the ball he just deliberately stops and draws at least two defenders everytime and believe me he can hold off two sometimes three of them. Its almost like he is arrogantly waiting for them to come and take a beat. So far he is the best local player I see who can move from 0 to 60 in a split second and from 60 to 0 in same split second so he combines that with dribbling and draws a load of fouls and hence free kicks. When he gets the chance though he has a hell of a low rifle shot across the keeper which is often blocked by defenders because he telegraphs it too much and tends to use his right more than his left foot to take it. He can take a rough tackle well but always seems to have a bad temper.
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Father bless this team in Jesus name Amen
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I know real men on the forum will disagree, but check that last Mexico match - that first goal Atiba shoulda clear the cross - he mistime he header, and check the 21st min. he head he clearance to a MExican in the box. He had a worse game than Jack in my opinion.
If I'm not mistaken, it was Carlos Edwards' failure tuh deal wit de cross dat led tuh de first goal. De mistimed header in de 21st minute, wasn't it Lawrence dat was responsible fuh dat?
Tallman yuh spot on here as usual... Charles had a very good game against Mexico
I agree , yuh on the ball tallman!!! Nah that was charles misheader in the 21st min of the 2nd half...2 plays after the goal. And I now agree that charles had a good game regardless. He entitled to he 1 mistake.
but airballs look like a team problem, and yuh know dem yankee love a cross.
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Cyd Gray have most of de physical attributes of de modern day wing back
Fast
Very Fit
Excellent recovery speed
Run all day
Decent crosser of de ball
Put pressure on de opposion attackin wide player forcin him to play defence when Cyd overlap
In other words....an ATHLETE.
This is why BSC put Kenwyne to play de position. Kenwyne is an ATHLETE.
Unfortunately for Cyd...he deficient in some crucial areas
Positioning
Discipline
Tackling
Maybe dese are areas Beenie feel he can correct
De pros might slightly shade de cons where Cyd concern but the key is...he have to get help.
De accompanyin wide midfielder have to be able to cover fuh Cyd...doh mind all de recovery speed he have because Cyd positionin suspect at best.
Dis is why Birchall may be a better bet to play wide right midfield if Cyd playin wing back. Carlos eh cuttin it from a defensive standpoint so far. Carlos playin good when he have de ball but he does stay on de wing right through and doh come inside. By doin dat, he does put extra pressha on de central midfielders who have to wuk harder to make up fuh Carlos.
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Well said Palos..
Bennie man knows how to get the best out of them fellas it seems, he's also a good coach and could teach them how to use they strength to their advantage.
Cyd Gray might be wild and lacks a little in crossing but coming on as a sub we stand a chance of scoring, both him and Eve is a good tactical move by Bennie man. Ah still feel he might not make de final cut though because we have to many right wing players already, so Gray, Wolfe and Williams might get drop.
Hislop
Charles Andrews Lawrence Avery
Edwards Birchall Whtiley Samuel
Stern Jones
Glen for Jones
Scotland for Stern
Eve for Samuel
Spann for Whitley
Rahim for Birchall
Theobald for Edwards
Sancho for Andrews
I would like to see Stern off the bench, but he may get de start because he lucky like that.
No offence Patriot, but I see Sealy play a few times for his club and he still have plently to learn, he have a nice first touch though, but he lacking de killer instinct.
Bennie man fix we defence, now it seems he aiming to fix the midfield and forward, he start from the bottom up, good move. We have a good attacking fast team.
Wolfe have talent it seems because Stuart Charles also liked him, but in time I guess. He play good on the left wing and he and Avery is de only two left footers on de squad even though Samuel play left wing for his clubs Dundee United and Jabloteh and was good at it, more attacking option, especially when he running forward into the center of the field taking on defenders or leaving them on the wing, he strong and fast and will also help defend. What kinda catchie is Wolfe and Sancho could play left back also incase Avery have to go center because Andrews might be rested if we tie and win (for the least) we first 2 games and qualify for the next round, so Wolfe maynot get drop after all ?
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Cyd Grey playing good for Jabloteh the last few games I see.....is just he wild. But he can run up a flank he have speed.
I think he is good Tonic for the spanish we playing.
Ah only hope he learn he lessons after Costa Rica tear up he backside in 2001. Here are some quotes from de match report by Irving Ward:
"...the Costa Ricans took advantage of debutant T&T defender Cyd Gray's jittery start at this level from the first blow of referee Joo Kim Young's whistle."
"...Porterfield paid the price for gambling with Gray for the second half..."
"The opportunity was created after another attack down the left flank from the Costa Ricans, who utilised the relatively free flank all match because of Gray's inability to contain veteran striker Hernan Medford."
"With Gray at sea and Angus Eve also failing to provide some sort of cover for his Joe Public teammate, the Costa Ricans were left with loads of time to set up a barrage of attacks and shots at Hislop's goal."
That Costa rica match make me dislike Cyd Gray. He got the same beat at least 10 times in dat game. Couldn't understand why he did not adjust his game. If you lacking in talent make up with brain and common sense.
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Dont blame Gray for that, if you notice de other T&T players left him for dead in Costa Rica, no one was helpin de man, he was a one man army everybody give up except for Gray after we was down 3-0, he was running up and down, even though he pelt a few hand he still battle, yea he get beat but de man look tired and still try hard, when yuh tired yuh legs does slow up.
Remember in de last gold cup, he came in as a sub and caused a goal vs Costa Rica after he cross de ball and John was foul in de box we get a penalty..
Simones, Porterfield, Fenwick, Hill and now Leo all use him and call him up so he cant be that bad, he just need the right attitude and training (maybe)... who knows, things might change... he have something in him that makes him special for all the coaches so far to keep callin him up. ?
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Whats make it nice about the team now we have a good few young players arond and this could help us in the future, greatly.
Glen, Jones, Theobald, Spann, Rahim, Edwards, Samuel, Birchall, Wolfe and Williams.
Sealy, Tiger and Boucaud also have so expo.
We just need to expose some defensive type players now and a better keeper than Williams like Andre Chalres, 2010 might be a good deal.
Imagine we use to call every foreign based player long ago, now we blanking men, the pool has grown.
Nice nice..
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Simones, Porterfield, Fenwick, Hill and now Leo all use him and call him up so he cant be that bad, he just need the right attitude and training (maybe)... who knows, things might change... he have something in him that makes him special for all the coaches so far to keep callin him up. ?
Quote from de Trinidad Guardian:
"A not-so-surprising inclusion was CL Financial San Juan Jabloteh defender Cyd Gray, who worked overtime in the recent T&T Pro League match against Defence Force at the Hasely Crawford Stadium.
Gray obviously impressed Beenhakker with his aggressive runs down the line and dangerous crosses to hat-trick scorer Kerry Noray."
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Marcos
it will be like this
Birchall---Whitley---Edwards
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Birchall is a winger for Port Vale, he is competent enough I feel to move on the left and play well. Leave Carlos on the right have Spann as the bruiser and let Whitley rip men. If Whitley ent doing it swith him with birchall and let Birchall spray the passes. This mid go wuk. When a man get bun bring on Theobold or Eve.
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Marcos
it will be like this
Birchall---Whitley---Edwards
------------Spann----------------
Birchall is a winger for Port Vale, he is competent enough I feel to move on the left and play well. Leave Carlos on the right have Spann as the bruiser and let Whitley rip men. If Whitley ent doing it swith him with birchall and let Birchall spray the passes. This mid go wuk. When a man get bun bring on Theobold or Eve.
I read in another post/article that Carlos plays on the left sometimes for his club. So he might be a better option on the left and put Birchall on the right., otherwise I like this midfield combo.
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The early reports we got on Birchall was that he is VERY right footed, he can't use his left foot except to stand on. So I think it would be better to leave him middle and let Whitely try a ting out left. Or maybe try Edwards on the left and Birchall on the right.
Don't forget we also have Colin Samuel to try on de left, so one of these 4 men may have to warm a bench if Samuel looking comfortable out dey.
I'm still not 100% sure Spann's club will release him, they have games scheduled all through the Gold Cup. I guess we'll find out soon.
Rahim continues to surprise me. Beenie must think he is a good player to keep him in the squad and use him against Mexico but he couldn't even get a sweat for Falkirk for years. any news on him finding a wok?
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Marcos
it will be like this
Birchall---Whitley---Edwards
------------Spann----------------
Birchall is a winger for Port Vale, he is competent enough I feel to move on the left and play well. Leave Carlos on the right have Spann as the bruiser and let Whitley rip men. If Whitley ent doing it swith him with birchall and let Birchall spray the passes. This mid go wuk. When a man get bun bring on Theobold or Eve.
yes Touches... plus Birchall and Edwards could continously switch sides to unbalance de defenders
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I see big things going on and the shake up is necessary. For too long our players have been taking their selection to the team as a forgone conclusion e.g. Dwarika
Let the records show that to earn your selection, you have to work hard and focus on your role as a team player not an individual.
Ince is an enigma at this point, not clear exactly what transpired there, oh well! We have to move on an upwards
I am really looking forward to the Gold Cup, we need this workout to get ready for the US in August
GO WARRIORS!!!!
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Ince is a fool.
U pass up the Gold Cup where you basically advertizing yourself to the world to go fight up with dat idiot Gradi.
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that middle sound good my only question is the defensive abilities of the 2 middle men spann and whitley. Can those guys help the back four defend??? just asking
if not and according to how samuel looking, put him on the left.
samuel(left) whitley edwards
birchall
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This is directed at Touches,
how you organizing that midfield of Spann, Whitley, Birchall and Edwards. I like that midfield alot but it seems like we have a right wing and 3 centre mids.
this is a whole other topic. I don't get much chance to watch Italian football anymore but in the Champions League final, I notice Milan had Seedorf, Kaka, Pirlo and Gattuso in the midfield. As far as I know they are all central midfielders. I notice Gattuso was the most defensive, and if I remember correctly Pirlo was more or sticking in the middle, but Kaka and Seedorf had license to roam at will.
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that middle sound good my only question is the defensive abilities of the 2 middle men spann and whitley. Can those guys help the back four defend??? just asking
if not and according to how samuel looking, put him on the left.
samuel(left) whitley edwards
birchall
Spann could real hold down a defensive mid and distribute. I think we shouldn't overlook Glen as a possibility on the left cuz I see d man playing left striker in the highlights and swingin in cross from the left. I also think Birchall was too good in the middle there to move him outside. But I sure in the end Leo will get it right
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Spann could real hold down a defensive mid and distribute. I think we shouldn't overlook Glen as a possibility on the left cuz I see d man playing left striker in the highlights and swingin in cross from the left. I also think Birchall was too good in the middle there to move him outside. But I sure in the end Leo will get it right
Geln wasn't exactly swinging in crosses.
All of them were played low along the carpet....they caused trouble but I wonder if he has the left foot to play it accurately in the air....maybe he can who knows but I haven't seen him do it as yet. He can definitely rifle a bullet with the left.
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the issue with Glen on the left wing is can he track back and do the defensive duties when necessary. And if he can, will it limit his effectiveness going forward? I think Samuel has more experience in that role. I would prefer Glen striking, even if its as a sub like he was against USA.
But I think Beenie may try different starting combos in the Gold Cup - perhaps Stern with Glen in 1st match and Scotland with Jones in the 2nd.
Add Yorke to that mix - selection headaches for Beenie man.