No it is not the national teams just a throw together community game
I hear the Soca Warriors will be in Toronto for an invitation match against the Reggae Boyz on August 27th ?
Can anyone confirm this or will T&T stay home and celebrate Independence ?
I hear the Soca Warriors will be in Toronto for an invitation match against the Reggae Boyz on August 27th ?
Can anyone confirm this or will T&T stay home and celebrate Independence ?
The game is advertised for Lamport Stadium in Toronto
Source: Torontolime.com
Sunday August 27th, 2006
Tux Ent presents...
"Clash of the Caribbean" - Soccer Salute 2006
Trinidad Soca Warriors vs Jamaica Reggae Boyz
At: Lamport Stadium - King & Dufferin (downtown Toronto)
Featuring: Live Soca Performances & Live Reggae performances
Music by: Killawatts sound crew & many more Top DJ's from all over
Adm: Limited Early bird tickets $30
Info: 647.237.1889
Tickets go on sale June 27 @ www.ticketmaster.ca or call 416 870-8000
V.I.P tickets for the venue and one of the after Party venue go on Sales July 2006
After Party info coming soon
Now....WHO go be on either team is the question. I'm not convinced this is an "official event" and seeing that the EPL starts on August 19 and the League Championship & SPL start earlier than that...I cyah see the clubs releasing our players for a fete match in Toronto.
It might be a total local squad or even some past players like Faustin etc thrown in the mix but I doubt many of the CURRENT Soca Warriors will be involved. More likely a promoter's hype to get people to come out and nex ting yuh know is man who livin in Toronto and does take a sweat showin up fuh de game and people askin....which one is Stern John?
You never know tho.
I hear the Soca Warriors will be in Toronto for an invitation match against the Reggae Boyz on August 27th ?
Can anyone confirm this or will T&T stay home and celebrate Independence ?
The game is advertised for Lamport Stadium in Toronto
Source: Torontolime.com
Sunday August 27th, 2006
Tux Ent presents...
"Clash of the Caribbean" - Soccer Salute 2006
Trinidad Soca Warriors vs Jamaica Reggae Boyz
At: Lamport Stadium - King & Dufferin (downtown Toronto)
Featuring: Live Soca Performances & Live Reggae performances
Music by: Killawatts sound crew & many more Top DJ's from all over
Adm: Limited Early bird tickets $30
Info: 647.237.1889
Tickets go on sale June 27 @ www.ticketmaster.ca or call 416 870-8000
V.I.P tickets for the venue and one of the after Party venue go on Sales July 2006
After Party info coming soon
Now....WHO go be on either team is the question. I'm not convinced this is an "official event" and seeing that the EPL starts on August 19 and the League Championship & SPL start earlier than that...I cyah see the clubs releasing our players for a fete match in Toronto.
It might be a total local squad or even some past players like Faustin etc thrown in the mix but I doubt many of the CURRENT Soca Warriors will be involved. More likely a promoter's hype to get people to come out and nex ting yuh know is man who livin in Toronto and does take a sweat showin up fuh de game and people askin....which one is Stern John?
You never know tho.
Steupsss I hope it aint no put together foolishness..maybe I should take a sweat!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Steupse.
Why we even talking about them...they doing anything to get back in the limelight and we obliging ???
Where is Jamaica?
Dais my answer ;D
Nah serious...I was surprised nobody bring up anything about Jamaica when talking about the Soca Warriors with people on the outside.
Right now our side is better...use the England games as a benchmark...they were taken apart quite easily.
They also at a rebuilding stage.
Really and truly COSTA RICA is the team we should be focusing on.
Dem is trouble and if we making a push for automatic qualification is dem we have to get past.
JA on the same level as Honduras, Guatemala...beatable if we get our house in order.
Costa Rica lil more difficult and in WC qualifying they have gotten a lot of points off of us.
I'm english so not biased. I voted for the Soca Warriors (or if you are an ignorant english TV presenter or journalist- Soccer Warriors) But as I've spent so long on this site it's almost my second home I think I'm getting a little biased. We've even had the warmest summer for a long time.
I'm english so not biased. I voted for the Soca Warriors (or if you are an ignorant english TV presenter or journalist- Soccer Warriors) But as I've spent so long on this site it's almost my second home I think I'm getting a little biased. We've even had the warmest summer for a long time.
the journey now start PVChris
stay on board :beermug:
people talk about jamaica "own us" for the past decade.. and Jamaica went to WC before us..I am pro Caribbean unity but when it comes to football I would feel insulted if Jamaica eva better Trinidad again. We need to groom our players understand the importance of that rivalry like the Barca - Real derby. We must make it a priority to beat them at all levels consistently. I ent have a problem with Jamaica, I won't cuss nobody country but anything like that. But I want the see the day we make them into whipping boys.
and now as we went to Germany it ehh no secret that the Yardies now gunning for us.. all this Caribbbean Unity ...out the door...this is not Cricket..
The question is.. What has Jamaica done in the recent memory.. they bombed out of the prelim in quailfiing and the lucky they didnt get 10 from England just the other day..
We are all Trinis on this site (well most of us are) and we will obiousily pick the warrriors. but put all b.s aside..pound 4 pound we are the better team TODAY.. its up to us to keep it that way...let dem yardies talk and hire big time coach
and as dcs say.. we should be studying about Costa Rica.. since it seems that the USA and Mexico are regulars (despite their perfromance in Germany)
people talk about jamaica "own us" for the past decade.. and Jamaica went to WC before us..
and now as we went to Germany it ehh no secret that the Yardies now gunning for us.. all this Caribbbean Unity ...out the door...this is not Cricket..
The question is.. What has Jamaica done in the recent memory.. they bombed out of the prelim in quailfiing and the lucky they didnt get 10 from England just the other day..
We are all Trinis on this site (well most of us are) and we will obiousily pick the warrriors. but put all b.s aside..pound 4 pound we are the better team TODAY.. its up to us to keep it that way...let dem yardies talk and hire big time coach
and as dcs say.. we should be studying about Costa Rica.. since it seems that the USA and Mexico are regulars (despite their perfromance in Germany)
people talk about jamaica "own us" for the past decade.. and Jamaica went to WC before us..
and now as we went to Germany it ehh no secret that the Yardies now gunning for us.. all this Caribbbean Unity ...out the door...this is not Cricket..
The question is.. What has Jamaica done in the recent memory.. they bombed out of the prelim in quailfiing and the lucky they didnt get 10 from England just the other day..
We are all Trinis on this site (well most of us are) and we will obiousily pick the warrriors. but put all b.s aside..pound 4 pound we are the better team TODAY.. its up to us to keep it that way...let dem yardies talk and hire big time coach
and as dcs say.. we should be studying about Costa Rica.. since it seems that the USA and Mexico are regulars (despite their perfromance in Germany)
I m surprised that so many posters here reading so much into the recent results vs England and Australia. Fact is Jamaica never really had proper preperation for those games, last time Jamaica had any sort of half decent preperation for a game/tournament was the gold cup, where they got to the quarter finals.
Jamaica not making it to the Hex is just a matter of bad luck....imagine a situation where you went unbeaten on the road, but yet only able to muster up one point at home, where traditionally you have had your better results.
Trinidad was struggling to beat St. Kitts at one point, until teh master coach took over control. the rest is history.
I personally believe that Jamaica and T&T playing a friendly game any time soon would see victory for Reggae Boyz. There is something about playing T&T that make a Jamaica team go out and get the result.
I predict Jamaica, Mexico and the USA will qualify automtaically for Africa 2010. Costa Rica, T&T and Honduras will batlle it out for the other half spot (if it still remains after).
My opinion.
I am pro Caribbean unity but when it comes to football I would feel insulted if Jamaica eva better Trinidad again. We need to groom our players understand the importance of that rivalry like the Barca - Real derby. We must make it a priority to beat them at all levels consistently. I ent have a problem with Jamaica, I won't cuss nobody country but anything like that. But I want the see the day we make them into whipping boys.
all this ole talk about who is better is shit. the question is, can we beat them. the only thing that matters is head to head. in football, results against a 3rd party means absolutely nothing. England may beat JA 6-0 and beat us 2-0 and it does not guarantee a damn thing or even mean that we are better. and when heated rivals meet..form means nothing. Barcelona could be bottom of the table and R Madrid could be top...when the superclassico reach, all bets are off. it is the same for JA and T&T. JA always does better against the US than we do...because they know how to match up against the US style of play better than us..but when they meet us..that doh men crap.Can I get an Amen!! It is good to see someone on here talk sense when it comes to the two teams. It is also surprising that so much weight can be put on a meaningless friendly, where we took three days to bring our team together and prepare for that match against England who was like T&T finetuning for the World Cup. I am sure that under similar circumstances as us, T&T would not have faired better. You cannot read anything into the England/Jamaica match, as you will certainly be misled. As the good man Filho said, wait until we meet on the field of play. Over the past decade Jamaica has beaten T&T more than T&T has beaten Jamaica. Apart from the just concluded WC, Jamaica has consistently out performed T&T in every aspect of the game, both at the junior and senior levels. We have been ranked above T&T more times than T&T ranked above us by FIFA in the past ten years. I also think that you would have a slight edge if we were to meet now, only because of the long preparation you have had and under the guidance of a quality coach. Dwight York's leadership and experience in the World Cup also helped a lot to stabilize the team and give it some direction. How much longer will York be around to play that role? It will be interesting to see when we have to meet again. . .
Right now..we theroretically should beat JA. BUT WE HAVE NO BRAGGING RIGHTS...last head to head..they cut our arse. In fact, the beating us like is a joke in recent years..at all levels. So cool all this shit bout we make WC and we eh get pile up by England. T&T has done nothing to prove they can beat Jamaica. Anything else is empty braying to make ourselves feel better. Until we actually go out and beat Jamaica, they better than us. All who vex with that..too bad. Cuz if we had the record over JA that they have over us..we would be laughing at any attempt to analyze on paper why they were better than us. Sure we better on paper..but football is played on a field. It real simple...whoever win the next match is the better side..and will remain so until the next match..everything else is ole talk
people talk about jamaica "own us" for the past decade.. and Jamaica went to WC before us..
and now as we went to Germany it ehh no secret that the Yardies now gunning for us.. all this Caribbbean Unity ...out the door...this is not Cricket..
The question is.. What has Jamaica done in the recent memory.. they bombed out of the prelim in quailfiing and the lucky they didnt get 10 from England just the other day..
We are all Trinis on this site (well most of us are) and we will obiousily pick the warrriors. but put all b.s aside..pound 4 pound we are the better team TODAY.. its up to us to keep it that way...let dem yardies talk and hire big time coach
and as dcs say.. we should be studying about Costa Rica.. since it seems that the USA and Mexico are regulars (despite their perfromance in Germany)
I m surprised that so many posters here reading so much into the recent results vs England and Australia. Fact is Jamaica never really had proper preperation for those games, last time Jamaica had any sort of half decent preperation for a game/tournament was the gold cup, where they got to the quarter finals.
Jamaica not making it to the Hex is just a matter of bad luck....imagine a situation where you went unbeaten on the road, but yet only able to muster up one point at home, where traditionally you have had your better results.
Trinidad was struggling to beat St. Kitts at one point, until teh master coach took over control. the rest is history.
I personally believe that Jamaica and T&T playing a friendly game any time soon would see victory for Reggae Boyz. There is something about playing T&T that make a Jamaica team go out and get the result.
I predict Jamaica, Mexico and the USA will qualify automtaically for Africa 2010. Costa Rica, T&T and Honduras will batlle it out for the other half spot (if it still remains after).
My opinion.
Reggaefan yuh mudda woke yuh up everyday by slappin yuh in de face wit ah cookin pan awa?
how yuh so incredibly dottish... everything is an excuse... your opinion is about as steady as Courtney Love in a crack house.
You need to wake up and realize that all the indisiplin on the JA team is finally coming back to counter the team's talent... T&T at this time are way ahead of them... they need to get their shit together if they want to be able to even contest us in the future.
Reggaefan yuh mudda woke yuh up everyday by slappin yuh in de face wit ah cookin pan awa?
how yuh so incredibly dottish... everything is an excuse... your opinion is about as steady as Courtney Love in a crack house.
You need to wake up and realize that all the indisiplin on the JA team is finally coming back to counter the team's talent... T&T at this time are way ahead of them... they need to get their shit together if they want to be able to even contest us in the future.
Jamaica will beat T&T, no matter who is playing the better ball. For that matter, Jamaica will beat any caribbean team that steps on the field.
Dont forget that St Kitts, St. Vincent, Cuba etc were scaring the crap out of your team 15 months ago. Yeah, you improved for the world cup.....
but on the same field with Jamaica...its only one team winning the game.
I'll go off the result of the last game between the two countries. Guess who won?
I'm english so not biased. I voted for the Soca Warriors (or if you are an ignorant english TV presenter or journalist- Soccer Warriors) But as I've spent so long on this site it's almost my second home I think I'm getting a little biased. We've even had the warmest summer for a long time.
the journey now start PVChris
stay on board :beermug:
Jefferz to answer your question we are without a doubt the better team at the moment, realistically speaking :beermug:
Reggaefan yuh mudda woke yuh up everyday by slappin yuh in de face wit ah cookin pan awa?
how yuh so incredibly dottish... everything is an excuse... your opinion is about as steady as Courtney Love in a crack house.
You need to wake up and realize that all the indisiplin on the JA team is finally coming back to counter the team's talent... T&T at this time are way ahead of them... they need to get their shit together if they want to be able to even contest us in the future.
Jamaica will beat T&T, no matter who is playing the better ball. For that matter, Jamaica will beat any caribbean team that steps on the field.
Dont forget that St Kitts, St. Vincent, Cuba etc were scaring the crap out of your team 15 months ago. Yeah, you improved for the world cup.....
but on the same field with Jamaica...its only one team winning the game.
I'll go off the result of the last game between the two countries. Guess who won?
yuh too confident of de past!
Dat is what happened tuh T&T football, de admin and de fans lived in de pst and let de football development slide....what happened was dat we lose we upper hand.
Jamaica will have a hard time beating T&T breds.
They always do...even when dey do win it is no walk in the park!
yuh too confident of de past!
Dat is what happened tuh T&T football, de admin and de fans lived in de pst and let de football development slide....what happened was dat we lose we upper hand.
Jamaica will have a hard time beating T&T breds.
They always do...even when dey do win it is no walk in the park!
yuh too confident of de past!
Dat is what happened tuh T&T football, de admin and de fans lived in de pst and let de football development slide....what happened was dat we lose we upper hand.
Jamaica will have a hard time beating T&T breds.
They always do...even when dey do win it is no walk in the park!
RF ah see yuh talkin bout preparation and who win de last time....remember we loss to the northerners wit ah developmental side in decaribbean cup. it wasn't any full strength team we play wit
that 6-1 thumping in Jamaica some year ago seemed like a pretty easy walk in the park from where I was sitting in the stadium...
I admit it will be harder to do now.... ;)
yuh too confident of de past!
Dat is what happened tuh T&T football, de admin and de fans lived in de pst and let de football development slide....what happened was dat we lose we upper hand.
Jamaica will have a hard time beating T&T breds.
They always do...even when dey do win it is no walk in the park!
RF ah see yuh talkin bout preparation and who win de last time....remember we loss to the northerners wit ah developmental side in decaribbean cup. it wasn't any full strength team we play wit
that 6-1 thumping in Jamaica some year ago seemed like a pretty easy walk in the park from where I was sitting in the stadium...
I admit it will be harder to do now.... ;)
RF ah see you talkin bout prep.. and who win las time....remember we loss to the northerners wit a close 2-1 game and wit an experimental side in de caribbean cup. It wasn't no easy game so 'ride out' wit yuh talk.
I saw we even now.
I saw we even now.
With kinda rats$hit yuh talking dey breds?!
Ghana give them 4 -0 and right now I think T&T and Ghana on a completely different level to JA, we shopuld be looking for a friendlu against Ghana not an unfriendly wasted exercise against JA as this point!
Right now T&T vs JA is a no contest! T&T 4 - 1 JA due to one of our defenders possibly feeling sorry for JA in injury time & heading the ball in our own goal so that the Ja government doh loss complete hope with their rebuilding programme for 2010!
I praying that they can afford and get Erickson as they new head coach whether part-time or full time as it will mean we will have one less team to worry about during the 2010 qualification series! ;D
Check http://www.socawarriorssc.com/socawarriors/scripts/match_listing.php?ml=1 (http://www.socawarriorssc.com/socawarriors/scripts/match_listing.php?ml=1) for d full match listing. "Page designed and maintained by Tallman" :beermug:
And check our record against Jamaica (http://www.socawarriorssc.com/socawarriors/scripts/match_statistics.php).....25W, 24L.....that sounds pretty even to me.
Reggaefan yuh mudda woke yuh up everyday by slappin yuh in de face wit ah cookin pan awa?
how yuh so incredibly dottish... everything is an excuse... your opinion is about as steady as Courtney Love in a crack house.
You need to wake up and realize that all the indisiplin on the JA team is finally coming back to counter the team's talent... T&T at this time are way ahead of them... they need to get their shit together if they want to be able to even contest us in the future.
Jamaica will beat T&T, no matter who is playing the better ball. For that matter, Jamaica will beat any caribbean team that steps on the field.
Dont forget that St Kitts, St. Vincent, Cuba etc were scaring the crap out of your team 15 months ago. Yeah, you improved for the world cup.....
but on the same field with Jamaica...its only one team winning the game.
I'll go off the result of the last game between the two countries. Guess who won?
yuh too confident of de past!
Dat is what happened tuh T&T football, de admin and de fans lived in de pst and let de football development slide....what happened was dat we lose we upper hand.
Jamaica will have a hard time beating T&T breds.
They always do...even when dey do win it is no walk in the park!
that 6-1 thumping in Jamaica some year ago seemed like a pretty easy walk in the park from where I was sitting in the stadium...
I admit it will be harder to do now.... ;)
I'm not sure if this was posted up already....if it was, I'll delete.
http://www.ticketmaster.ca/event/10003CD4C60B5256
Palos. might wah make it a sticky ....
Palos. might wah make it a sticky ....
second that
GTA ppl we going to dis fuh sure
anybody want to make de trip to Montreal fuh the Canada vs. Jamaica game...see how SH doing, maybe get an interview from him too?
is the long weekend...and Montreal does always be a nice lime fuh obvious reasons ;)
Palos. might wah make it a sticky ....
second that
GTA ppl we going to dis fuh sure
anybody want to make de trip to Montreal fuh the Canada vs. Jamaica game...see how SH doing, maybe get an interview from him too?
is the long weekend...and Montreal does always be a nice lime fuh obvious reasons ;)
yea i in dat, we go make a trip for the long weekend and see de game, sounds good :beermug:
When you think about it, I don't think this is a game but more so a clash of various artist from both countries.
Why would two Caribbean powerhouses select to play a friendly in Canada? and why in August? most of the palyers do have club commitments at this time?
When you think about it, I don't think this is a game but more so a clash of various artist from both countries.
Why would two Caribbean powerhouses select to play a friendly in Canada? and why in August? most of the palyers do have club commitments at this time?
Two caribbean powerhouses?
Here is how I grade the top concacaf teams:
Mexico 8/10, USA 7/10, Costa Rica 6/10, Canada 5/10, Jamaica 5/10, Honduras 5/10, Panama 5/10, TnT 5/10, Haiti 4/10, Cuba 4/10, Guatemala 4/10, El Salvador 3/10, SKN 3/10, Nicaragua 2/10, the rest 1/10.
When you think about it, I don't think this is a game but more so a clash of various artist from both countries.
Why would two Caribbean powerhouses select to play a friendly in Canada? and why in August? most of the palyers do have club commitments at this time?
Two caribbean powerhouses?
Here is how I grade the top concacaf teams:
Mexico 8/10, USA 7/10, Costa Rica 6/10, Canada 5/10, Jamaica 5/10, Honduras 5/10, Panama 5/10, TnT 5/10, Haiti 4/10, Cuba 4/10, Guatemala 4/10, El Salvador 3/10, SKN 3/10, Nicaragua 2/10, the rest 1/10.
Well, he didn't say two Concacaf powerhouses...he said two Caribbean powerhouses. Since you gave T&T and JA the highest scores of the caribbean teams, i guess you agree.
When you think about it, I don't think this is a game but more so a clash of various artist from both countries.
Why would two Caribbean powerhouses select to play a friendly in Canada? and why in August? most of the palyers do have club commitments at this time?
Two caribbean powerhouses?
Here is how I grade the top concacaf teams:
Mexico 8/10, USA 7/10, Costa Rica 6/10, Canada 5/10, Jamaica 5/10, Honduras 5/10, Panama 5/10, TnT 5/10, Haiti 4/10, Cuba 4/10, Guatemala 4/10, El Salvador 3/10, SKN 3/10, Nicaragua 2/10, the rest 1/10.
Well, he didn't say two Concacaf powerhouses...he said two Caribbean powerhouses. Since you gave T&T and JA the highest scores of the caribbean teams, i guess you agree.
Not quite so. Ja and TnT have been the most succesfull Caribbean teams in recent years; but, they're no powerhouses for Haiti and Cuba. BTW, Both teams came out victorious in their last encounters with the 'powerhouse'. However, based on the warriors' good performance in the WC, I consider TnT the best caribbean team untill they play a relatively strong caribbean sides like Jamaica, Haiti, and Cuba.
If you were to grade Germany and Spain, wouldn't you give the Germans a higher grade than the Spaniards? But, would that make Germany a 'powerhouse' when compared to Spain? The same goes for the caribbean. Jamaica and TnT are not that superior to Haiti and Cuba to call them 'the two powerhouses'.
I stand by what I said in my previous post. All the teams I gave a 5/10 grade are favorites to post victories against the ones I gave 4/10. However, those teams are so close in strenght that a victory of a 5/10 team over a 4/10 team is not garanteed.
yuh too confident of de past!
Dat is what happened tuh T&T football, de admin and de fans lived in de pst and let de football development slide....what happened was dat we lose we upper hand.
Jamaica will have a hard time beating T&T breds.
They always do...even when dey do win it is no walk in the park!
that 6-1 thumping in Jamaica some year ago seemed like a pretty easy walk in the park from where I was sitting in the stadium...
I admit it will be harder to do now.... ;)
yuh too confident of de past!
Dat is what happened tuh T&T football, de admin and de fans lived in de pst and let de football development slide....what happened was dat we lose we upper hand.
Jamaica will have a hard time beating T&T breds.
They always do...even when dey do win it is no walk in the park!
that 6-1 thumping in Jamaica some year ago seemed like a pretty easy walk in the park from where I was sitting in the stadium...
I admit it will be harder to do now.... ;)
u r supremely ignorant. that was not our National team..There were even non-Trinis on that team. That is no excuse, it is a fact. Your football federation marketed it as our national team and tief yuh money. You got a league select with a few national players sprinkled in. So get your facts straight...And read my posts..I doh shy away from the fact that JA regularly beats T&T now and that no matter what kinda form either team in, it will be a close game. So I eh crying yuh down out of National Pride...i just educating yuh so yuh could stop talking mess.
anyone going to this today?
yuh too confident of de past!
Dat is what happened tuh T&T football, de admin and de fans lived in de pst and let de football development slide....what happened was dat we lose we upper hand.
Jamaica will have a hard time beating T&T breds.
They always do...even when dey do win it is no walk in the park!
that 6-1 thumping in Jamaica some year ago seemed like a pretty easy walk in the park from where I was sitting in the stadium...
I admit it will be harder to do now.... ;)
u r supremely ignorant. that was not our National team..There were even non-Trinis on that team. That is no excuse, it is a fact. Your football federation marketed it as our national team and tief yuh money. You got a league select with a few national players sprinkled in. So get your facts straight...And read my posts..I doh shy away from the fact that JA regularly beats T&T now and that no matter what kinda form either team in, it will be a close game. So I eh crying yuh down out of National Pride...i just educating yuh so yuh could stop talking mess.
Stern Johna nd all teh others were there....the T&T national anthem was played, and the team wore red and white....
I dont care if you had 15 Brazilains on there...the resulty according to FIFA's web site reads Jamaica 6 Trinidad and Tobago 0.
Ifr anything, FIFA should suspend all yuh for using none T&T players on your national team. ;D
yuh too confident of de past!
Dat is what happened tuh T&T football, de admin and de fans lived in de pst and let de football development slide....what happened was dat we lose we upper hand.
Jamaica will have a hard time beating T&T breds.
They always do...even when dey do win it is no walk in the park!
that 6-1 thumping in Jamaica some year ago seemed like a pretty easy walk in the park from where I was sitting in the stadium...
I admit it will be harder to do now.... ;)
u r supremely ignorant. that was not our National team..There were even non-Trinis on that team. That is no excuse, it is a fact. Your football federation marketed it as our national team and tief yuh money. You got a league select with a few national players sprinkled in. So get your facts straight...And read my posts..I doh shy away from the fact that JA regularly beats T&T now and that no matter what kinda form either team in, it will be a close game. So I eh crying yuh down out of National Pride...i just educating yuh so yuh could stop talking mess.
Stern Johna nd all teh others were there....the T&T national anthem was played, and the team wore red and white....
I dont care if you had 15 Brazilains on there...the resulty according to FIFA's web site reads Jamaica 6 Trinidad and Tobago 0.
Ifr anything, FIFA should suspend all yuh for using none T&T players on your national team. ;D
That is some serious shit. How d hell you could have an a-team friendly with players who not eligible to play for one of the countries? Who is responsible for this?
yuh too confident of de past!
Dat is what happened tuh T&T football, de admin and de fans lived in de pst and let de football development slide....what happened was dat we lose we upper hand.
Jamaica will have a hard time beating T&T breds.
They always do...even when dey do win it is no walk in the park!
that 6-1 thumping in Jamaica some year ago seemed like a pretty easy walk in the park from where I was sitting in the stadium...
I admit it will be harder to do now.... ;)
u r supremely ignorant. that was not our National team..There were even non-Trinis on that team. That is no excuse, it is a fact. Your football federation marketed it as our national team and tief yuh money. You got a league select with a few national players sprinkled in. So get your facts straight...And read my posts..I doh shy away from the fact that JA regularly beats T&T now and that no matter what kinda form either team in, it will be a close game. So I eh crying yuh down out of National Pride...i just educating yuh so yuh could stop talking mess.
Stern Johna nd all teh others were there....the T&T national anthem was played, and the team wore red and white....
I dont care if you had 15 Brazilains on there...the resulty according to FIFA's web site reads Jamaica 6 Trinidad and Tobago 0.
Ifr anything, FIFA should suspend all yuh for using none T&T players on your national team. ;D
That is some serious shit. How d hell you could have an a-team friendly with players who not eligible to play for one of the countries? Who is responsible for this?
Jack Warner is FIFA himself...so dont ask me. Al I know is that the match was advertised as Jamaica vs Trinidad and tobago...the teams played in the Trinidad and Tobago uniform, the T&T flag was displayed on the flag pole, and teh T&T anthem was played. Turned out that there were two none-T&T nationals on the T&T team...One Guy from Sierra Leone, and another guy, dont recall where he is now. I believe the arguemnt at the time ws that these guys were in teh process of being neutralized.
The FIFA site today lists the game as Jamaica vs T&T, and not as Jamaica vs a T&T select.
Jamaica trounces T&T 6-1
Written by Trinidad Guardian
Monday, September 01 1997
Jamaica wished Trinidad and Tobago happy birthday in a big way. They trounced T&T 6-1 infront of the home fans in Kingston.
It was the biggest margin of victory for the Reggae Boyz over the Calypso Boys ever, passing the previous mark of 1-3 played in the same stadium.
This is really turning out to be big soccer war between the two countries. Jamaica were out to get the Trini's after a humuliating loss they suffered in Antigua.
The JFF were looking for a strong Trinidad and Tobago squad, however what they ended up was a squad with only one European professional in the lineup.
The T&T squad had four rookie players in the game and had just thrown together a team last week.
The Jamaicans on the other hand had all there "pros" at there disposal. It proved the difference as the amatuer team gave the Jamaicans all the room in the world to opperate.
Jamaica were up to 2-0 in the first 22 minutes of play on goals from their "Jamaican professional" Paul Hall.
Jerren Nixon only in the game because he is awaiting a work permit to complete his £300,000 transfer scored in the 36th minute.
Ricardo Gardner made the score line 3-1 and Barbadian defender Nicholas Pitt beat his own goalie Clayton Ince to put the score 4-1 at the end of the first half.
The second half was not much better for T&T as they gave Jamaica space to build a new National Staduim. Paul Young and Dean Sewell completed the "cut ass" for the Jamaicans.
Two Trinidad and Tobago players were ejected. Adaryl John and St. Vicentian, now Trinidadian Welsey John were kicked out for dissent.
The T&T team was so decimated by player's overseas that they included three non T&T players in Nicholas Pitt (Barbados), Welsey John (St. Vincent) and Unisa Conteh (Sierra Leone). All these players play in the Trinidad and Tobago Football League.
All in all, the Jamaican's deserve the victory as they were match fit and ready to play.
31/08/1997, Kingston, National Stadium
Friendly International
JAMAICA 6 (Paul Hall 10', 22', Ricardo Gardener, Nicholas Pitt 45' OG, Paul Young,
Dean Sewell)
TRINIDAD/TOBAGO XI 1 (Jerren Nixon 36')
Referee: Vanroy Burnes (Antigua/Barbuda).
Coaches: Jamaica: René Simoes (Brazil).
Trinidad/Tobago: Bertille St. Clair.
Cards: Jamaica: Gregory Messam [R].
Trinidad/Tobago XI: Wesley John [R], Adaryl John [R].
Notes: The Trinidad/Tobago XI contained Trinidad League players, including
foreigners Nicholas Pitt (Barbados), Wesley John (St. Vincent/Gren) and
Unisa Conteh (Sierra Leone), but the game still awarded "caps",
and FIFA considers it to be a full international.
I thought the Team that beat Jamaica in NJ in 1998 was an all star Caribbean Team and I also thought that Jamaica beat Trinidad 2-1 in the 1998 Copa Caribe after we return from France '98. ??? ???
I thought the Team that beat Jamaica in NJ in 1998 was an all star Caribbean Team and I also thought that Jamaica beat Trinidad 2-1 in the 1998 Copa Caribe after we return from France '98. ??? ???
Well de reason why I mention it was becuase RF talking bout JA beat T&T 6-1 and it wasn't a full T&T team it was a squad made up of caribbean players as four of them not from T&T. So if he want to count that then I will count this....
Well dont even compare de Copa Caribe because we is king of that. In 1999 we beat Jamaica, Cuba, Haiti, Guadeloupe and Grenada, de year after allyuh came back from de 1998 world cup. Then we beat South Africa, Jamaica and Colombia in friendly games around that same time.
MY point is, teams lose and win, RF cannot come here and talk shit.
We also beat Honduras (3-1) and Costa Rica (2-1) in de Gold Cup.
I thought the Team that beat Jamaica in NJ in 1998 was an all star Caribbean Team and I also thought that Jamaica beat Trinidad 2-1 in the 1998 Copa Caribe after we return from France '98. ??? ???
Well de reason why I mention it was becuase RF talking bout JA beat T&T 6-1 and it wasn't a full T&T team it was a squad made up of caribbean players as four of them not from T&T. So if he want to count that then I will count this....
Well dont even compare de Copa Caribe because we is king of that. In 1999 we beat Jamaica, Cuba, Haiti, Guadeloupe and Grenada, de year after allyuh came back from de 1998 world cup. Then we beat South Africa, Jamaica and Colombia in friendly games around that same time.
MY point is, teams lose and win, RF cannot come here and talk shit.
We also beat Honduras (3-1) and Costa Rica (2-1) in de Gold Cup.
Sam? you lieing again. Jamaica beat T&T 2-1 in the shell cup after returning from the Gold Cup in 1998. Onandi Lowe and theodore Whotmore scored, Stern John pulled one back for T&T. If the squad that played Jamaica in Kingston was in fact not the T&T national team, thats something you and Jack should have pointed out to us before the kick-off..instead of at the end of the game. I bet you if it was a T&T victory we would never have heard a quat about players not being Trinidad nationals. And havent you guys since done the same thing with The Brazilian born player Seabra? Didnt he play for you guys in the Digicel Cup last year? Seems like its something you have done at least on one occasion since then.
I thought the Team that beat Jamaica in NJ in 1998 was an all star Caribbean Team and I also thought that Jamaica beat Trinidad 2-1 in the 1998 Copa Caribe after we return from France '98. ??? ???
Well de reason why I mention it was becuase RF talking bout JA beat T&T 6-1 and it wasn't a full T&T team it was a squad made up of caribbean players as four of them not from T&T. So if he want to count that then I will count this....
Well dont even compare de Copa Caribe because we is king of that. In 1999 we beat Jamaica, Cuba, Haiti, Guadeloupe and Grenada, de year after allyuh came back from de 1998 world cup. Then we beat South Africa, Jamaica and Colombia in friendly games around that same time.
MY point is, teams lose and win, RF cannot come here and talk shit.
We also beat Honduras (3-1) and Costa Rica (2-1) in de Gold Cup.
Sam? you lieing again. Jamaica beat T&T 2-1 in the shell cup after returning from the Gold Cup in 1998. Onandi Lowe and theodore Whotmore scored, Stern John pulled one back for T&T. If the squad that played Jamaica in Kingston was in fact not the T&T national team, thats something you and Jack should have pointed out to us before the kick-off..instead of at the end of the game. I bet you if it was a T&T victory we would never have heard a quat about players not being Trinidad nationals. And havent you guys since done the same thing with The Brazilian born player Seabra? Didnt he play for you guys in the Digicel Cup last year? Seems like its something you have done at least on one occasion since then.
I thought the Team that beat Jamaica in NJ in 1998 was an all star Caribbean Team and I also thought that Jamaica beat Trinidad 2-1 in the 1998 Copa Caribe after we return from France '98. ??? ???
Well de reason why I mention it was becuase RF talking bout JA beat T&T 6-1 and it wasn't a full T&T team it was a squad made up of caribbean players as four of them not from T&T. So if he want to count that then I will count this....
Well dont even compare de Copa Caribe because we is king of that. In 1999 we beat Jamaica, Cuba, Haiti, Guadeloupe and Grenada, de year after allyuh came back from de 1998 world cup. Then we beat South Africa, Jamaica and Colombia in friendly games around that same time.
MY point is, teams lose and win, RF cannot come here and talk shit.
We also beat Honduras (3-1) and Costa Rica (2-1) in de Gold Cup.
Sam? you lieing again. Jamaica beat T&T 2-1 in the shell cup after returning from the World Cup in 1998. Onandi Lowe and theodore Whotmore scored, Stern John pulled one back for T&T. If the squad that played Jamaica in Kingston was in fact not the T&T national team, thats something you and Jack should have pointed out to us before the kick-off..instead of at the end of the game. I bet you if it was a T&T victory we would never have heard a quat about players not being Trinidad nationals. And havent you guys since done the same thing with The Brazilian born player Seabra? Didnt he play for you guys in the Digicel Cup last year? Seems like its something you have done at least on one occasion since then.
you cannot done eh
Yuh just full ah chat what the score btw i hope JA win so we can fire corneal
Yuh just full ah chat what the score btw i hope JA win so we can fire corneal
1-0 HT TnT Knox Penalty
I thought the Team that beat Jamaica in NJ in 1998 was an all star Caribbean Team and I also thought that Jamaica beat Trinidad 2-1 in the 1998 Copa Caribe after we return from France '98. ??? ???
Well de reason why I mention it was becuase RF talking bout JA beat T&T 6-1 and it wasn't a full T&T team it was a squad made up of caribbean players as four of them not from T&T. So if he want to count that then I will count this....
Well dont even compare de Copa Caribe because we is king of that. In 1999 we beat Jamaica, Cuba, Haiti, Guadeloupe and Grenada, de year after allyuh came back from de 1998 world cup. Then we beat South Africa, Jamaica and Colombia in friendly games around that same time.
MY point is, teams lose and win, RF cannot come here and talk shit.
We also beat Honduras (3-1) and Costa Rica (2-1) in de Gold Cup.
Sam? you lieing again. Jamaica beat T&T 2-1 in the shell cup after returning from the Gold Cup in 1998. Onandi Lowe and theodore Whotmore scored, Stern John pulled one back for T&T. If the squad that played Jamaica in Kingston was in fact not the T&T national team, thats something you and Jack should have pointed out to us before the kick-off..instead of at the end of the game. I bet you if it was a T&T victory we would never have heard a quat about players not being Trinidad nationals. And havent you guys since done the same thing with The Brazilian born player Seabra? Didnt he play for you guys in the Digicel Cup last year? Seems like its something you have done at least on one occasion since then.
By: Joel Villafana - ttproleague.
03-Mar-2005 - Jose Luis Seabra is a disappointed man, as it now seems unlikely that he will be part of Trinidad and Tobago’s journey to Germany 2006—but the Brazilian born player is still hopeful that one day he still may become a ‘Soca Warrior.’
After months of uncertainty, it was revealed by Minister of Sports Roger Boynes, that under the current law, a non-citizen must wait seven (7) years to be granted citizenship after gaining residency.
Seabra was granted residency in January this year which allowed him to play for T&T in friendly internationals and regional tournaments, but in order to play at the international level F.I.F.A. requires that one must be a citizen to represent their country.
I thought the Team that beat Jamaica in NJ in 1998 was an all star Caribbean Team and I also thought that Jamaica beat Trinidad 2-1 in the 1998 Copa Caribe after we return from France '98. ??? ???
Well de reason why I mention it was becuase RF talking bout JA beat T&T 6-1 and it wasn't a full T&T team it was a squad made up of caribbean players as four of them not from T&T. So if he want to count that then I will count this....
Well dont even compare de Copa Caribe because we is king of that. In 1999 we beat Jamaica, Cuba, Haiti, Guadeloupe and Grenada, de year after allyuh came back from de 1998 world cup. Then we beat South Africa, Jamaica and Colombia in friendly games around that same time.
MY point is, teams lose and win, RF cannot come here and talk shit.
We also beat Honduras (3-1) and Costa Rica (2-1) in de Gold Cup.
Sam? you lieing again. Jamaica beat T&T 2-1 in the shell cup after returning from the Gold Cup in 1998. Onandi Lowe and theodore Whotmore scored, Stern John pulled one back for T&T. If the squad that played Jamaica in Kingston was in fact not the T&T national team, thats something you and Jack should have pointed out to us before the kick-off..instead of at the end of the game. I bet you if it was a T&T victory we would never have heard a quat about players not being Trinidad nationals. And havent you guys since done the same thing with The Brazilian born player Seabra? Didnt he play for you guys in the Digicel Cup last year? Seems like its something you have done at least on one occasion since then.
Jamaica beat us in the 98 Caribbean Cup, We beat them twice in 1999, including the 1999 Caribbean Cup.
RF, I think this should clarify the situationQuoteBy: Joel Villafana - ttproleague.
03-Mar-2005 - Jose Luis Seabra is a disappointed man, as it now seems unlikely that he will be part of Trinidad and Tobago’s journey to Germany 2006—but the Brazilian born player is still hopeful that one day he still may become a ‘Soca Warrior.’
After months of uncertainty, it was revealed by Minister of Sports Roger Boynes, that under the current law, a non-citizen must wait seven (7) years to be granted citizenship after gaining residency.
Seabra was granted residency in January this year which allowed him to play for T&T in friendly internationals and regional tournaments, but in order to play at the international level F.I.F.A. requires that one must be a citizen to represent their country.
I can only assume that those three players (Conteh, Pitt and W. john) had residency status and that is why they were allowed to play on the Trinidad team. However, there is a big difference between seabra and pitt and john - seabra has never been capped by another country.
This would be a huge travesty if pitt and john played for their respective countries BEFORE playing in that friendly game. I haven't been able to verify it yet.
Seabra's case is different because there was an expressed desire on the part of the player to gain Trini citizenship. He was supposed to be a major part of bertille saint clairs world cup plans (He played in the two azerbaijan matches as well as the digicell cup matches). I'm not saying i agree with it, i'm just stating it as it is.The only reason it didn't work out is that the government was unwiling to fastrack his citizenship - kind of like the solomon kalou situation (and rightly so)
You can compare it to a hypothetical situation of Simoes wanting to draft in a british born player who is eligible for jamaican citizenship, with resident status in jamaica (because of his parents), but who but who doesn't actually have the passport yet becase he never bothered to do the paperwork. assume that he can get the citizenship in 28 days and there's a friendly in 25 days followed by a qualifier at the end of the month. If the guy has residency status, the coach can test him out in a friendly while his papers are being looked after, and play him in the qualifier 2 days after his citizenship is approved.
Now it seems to me that the problem with the 6-1 match is that these players were never in the national team setup. They were picked to play this game simply for reasons of CONVENIENCE...the TTFF apparently barely bothered to put together a side.
Now no one (at least not myself) is griping about the result and trying to disqualify it because of the composition of the team. If you get comfort from beating up on a last minutes scratch up side more power to you ::) What i am saying is that in that case, that was a mockery of an A team match and IF EVER none of those players had residency status, or had already played with their countries, the match itself was a mockery of FIFA's eligibility rule sand should not be considered valid
As to why the TTFF never signalled it before the start of the match...well it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that if the TTFF put the players there in the first place its because itsconvenient for them to play so why the hell would they protest against their own smartman tactics ::)
In fact they still haven't signalled it - WHICH IS WHAT I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT IN THE FIRST PLACE
As far as i'm concerned, this is a classic case of no one says anything and everyone gets fine. The TTFF were paid their cut of the matchfees or whatever fee jamaica paid to organise the match, the jamaica public get a nice thumping of their arch enemies just before the world cup, the fringe players who'd never have seen a national cap get one, the foreign PFL players get a sweat against future world cup 'stars'. The only losers are the Trinidad supporters, but who the hell cares? We never stand up for anything anyway...
You national association couldnt find the time to put together a side? What? You ran out of players? Jerron Nixon, Ince, John, And a host of other T&T nationals were in teh squad...so its hard to figure out why they would have to select players who were none T&T nationals.
Anyway, Jack is a law unto himself, so there.Something we'll always agree on
1-0 T&T