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Channel joins with SportsMax
Local sports to break into North American market
Observer Reporter
Wednesday, September 06, 2006
Veronica Alvarez, director of marketing and communication at Fox Soccer Channel signs the agreement with SportsMax chairman Pat Rousseau (seated right) yesterday in New Kingston. Looking on (from left) are Phillip Martin and Oliver McIntosh of SportsMax. (Photo: Michael Gordon)
Fox Soccer Channel and the International Media Content Limited (IMC), the parent company of SportsMax, yesterday announced the signing of an agreement which gives SportsMax the broadcast and distribution rights in Jamaica for the rebranded Fox Soccer Channel Jamaica, effective October 1, 2006.
The agreement gives SportsMax the right to place local and regional content and commercial inventory on Fox Soccer Channel Jamaica, as well as for SportsMax to market and distribute Fox Soccer Channel Jamaica to cable operators via SportsMax's satellite network.
"... This is both a unique and historical occasion," remarked the Hon Pat Rousseau, OJ, chairman of SportsMax Limited.
"This is the classical case of the whales not swallowing the minnows, but joining the minnows. We are a very small, new company and Fox Soccer Channel is part of a very big and powerful organisation and I think the alliance means a lot to both of us," he added.
"We both feel there are benefits to be gained," he said, eyeing the prospects of SportsMax placing Caribbean sports on the Fox Soccer Channel network in North America.
"This is a huge advantage and this is something we look forward to exploiting in the very near future."
The agreement also includes SportsMax developing local and regional programming on Fox Soccer Channel Jamaica, with the prospect for broadcast on Fox Soccer Channel in the USA and Canada.
SportsMax Limited has up to four hours per day to place regional and local content on Fox Soccer Channel Jamaica, after both parties agree on the local and regional programming to be broadcast.
IMC will still operate its SportsMax channel and will offer the two channels via subscriptions through cable operators islandwide for a monthly subscription fee, which was not disclosed.
Oliver McIntosh, president and CEO of SportsMax Limited, explained that the decision to offer the channels via a subscription package is in line with other top international sports channels, such as Sky Sports in the UK, Super Sport in South Africa and Ten Sport in Asia.
"Channels like ours are less dependent on the advertising market," he said. "Subscription revenues will allow SportsMax to continue to provide a high quality and quantity of international, regional and local sports and to develop sports content for broadcast into North America."
It is expected that the gross television audience will grow from 600,000 to more than 25 million cable and satellite households in the US and the Caribbean.
And Veronica Alvarez, director, marketing and communication at Fox Soccer Channel, said she believes that the Fox Soccer Channel Jamaica will be the destination for sports for the Caribbean.
"By double teaming with IMC and SportsMax, together we create a localised version of Fox Soccer Channel tailor-made for Jamaican fans," she said.
"Thanks to IMC, Jamaican television audience will get top quality programming ... and the North American market will learn more about the Jamaican game and its contribution to the world's game."
Aside from the English Premiership and the FA Cup, Fox Soccer Channel Jamaica will broadcast Italian Serie A, the Argentine League, CONCACAF Champions Cup, the USA's Major League Soccer, as well as daily Sky Sports News and Fox Sports World Report.
SportsMax currently broad-casts to 17 countries in the Caribbean and has exclusive rights for programmes such as the overseas West Indies cricket tours, the Ashes Series between Australia and England, EURO 2008 qualifiers, the South American Copa America and the IAAF Grand Prix.
Don't shoot the messenger. :) :)
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Nah, I think that is good news for the Caribbean as a whole :beermug: maybe the PFL could get a little space on FSCJA in the future...more exposure for everybody.
Big Up!
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Nah, I think that is good news for the Caribbean as a whole :beermug: maybe the PFL could get a little space on FSCJA in the future...more exposure for everybody.
Big Up!
That's the deal I'm hoping for too. Total exposure for Caribbean football.
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this Ja sportsmax channel is the best allyuh, they bring coverage of nearly every single sport that has Ja interest, so if u living there and u like sports, u can get coverage on almost anything.
I rememebr i see the TT vs Czech WC warm up game in Kingston...
We need a station like that in T&T, one that does not stick.
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this Ja sportsmax channel is the best allyuh, they bring coverage of nearly every single sport that has Ja interest, so if u living there and u like sports, u can get coverage on almost anything.
I rememebr i see the TT vs Czech WC warm up game in Kingston...
We need a station like that in T&T, one that does not stick.
Don't forget that Jamaica as an exclusive sports now that started broadcasting at midnight June 10. A day after the World Cup started.
Jamaica's own: TVJ SPORTS NETWORK.
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Wonderful news for caribbean sports lovers.
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So why cannot be called fox sports soccer channel caribbean why jamaica has to be behind it? steeps rubbish
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So why cannot be called fox sports soccer channel caribbean why jamaica has to be behind it? steeps rubbish
Dem Jamaicians taking care ah dem business - we have to start thinking outside de box.
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So why cannot be called fox sports soccer channel caribbean why jamaica has to be behind it? steeps rubbish
Dem Jamaicians taking care ah dem business - we have to start thinking outside de box.
I know but if they shouw it through out the caribbean it should be fox soccer chaneel caribbean. but yuh right we have to start thinking so
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So why cannot be called fox sports soccer channel caribbean why jamaica has to be behind it? steeps rubbish
u kidding right.
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So why cannot be called fox sports soccer channel caribbean why jamaica has to be behind it? steeps rubbish
Did you read and understand. Or did you just read.
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So why cannot be called fox sports soccer channel caribbean why jamaica has to be behind it? steeps rubbish
Did you read and understand. Or did you just read.
haul yuh backside
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So why cannot be called fox sports soccer channel caribbean why jamaica has to be behind it? steeps rubbish
Did you read and understand. Or did you just read.
haul yuh backside
I expected a better response from you of all persons.
Do you think they should have come to T&T because you were in Germany.
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Warner should have gotten us a deal too !! :devil:
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Ah hope them camera man walk with bullet proof vest..... :devil:
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Ah hope them camera man walk with bullet proof vest..... :devil:
And if they ever decide one day to go to Trinidad and Tobago, tell them to walk with a personal body guard...lest he be kidnapped for a ransome!
you dont think before you type do you?
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Ah hope them camera man walk with bullet proof vest..... :devil:
And if they ever decide one day to go to Trinidad and Tobago, tell them to walk with a personal body guard...lest he be kidnapped for a ransome!
you dont think before you type do you?
a touch sensitive, are we?
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The "mansions and benz" upper class types tend to be
Now please,, say nothing more or he just may cry in his ackee & saltfish.....or rather "beluga caviar & Vichyssoise" as he refers to it
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RF, T&T have no more kidnapping..... them gone back Jamaica. When last you hear of any in T&T...
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The "mansions and benz" upper class types tend to be
Now please,, say nothing more or he just may cry in his ackee & saltfish.....or rather "beluga caviar & Vichyssoise" as he refers to it
I will send you some Ackee and Saltfish one of these days. The stuff is available in every supermarket here in teh USA. When next you go to your local supermarket head straight for the section that is labelled "Jamaican food"... you might change your name from Dutty to another Jamaica name "Ackee" ;D
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hoping the pfl could get the exposure would be nice
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The "mansions and benz" upper class types tend to be
Now please,, say nothing more or he just may cry in his ackee & saltfish.....or rather "beluga caviar & Vichyssoise" as he refers to it
I will send you some Ackee and Saltfish one of these days. The stuff is available in every supermarket here in teh USA. When next you go to your local supermarket head straight for the section that is labelled "Jamaican food"... you might change your name from Dutty to another Jamaica name "Ackee" ;D
pardna...ah not saying this on a hater scene...but ackee is not a thing to be bragging bout :-\ . And you could find saltfish plenty places outside of Jamaica. It not even half as 'west indian' as you think it is.
And we done tell you that the word "dutty" is no jamaica thing. I hearing that word since i know mihself, be it in TNT or Grenada. The only people in the english speaking caribbean that must be doh use that word is the Bajans, proper as they feel they is.
In the same way west indians does say tutty for thirty and tusty for thirsty and dut for dirt, we does say dutty for dirty. I ent see what yuh point is. Reggae and jerk chicken is alyuh thing, but doh try and claim every west indian thing for jamaica...since we lend alyuh we caribbean cup once or twice yuh putting on airs...doh study it, we taking back we property just now :devil:
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The "mansions and benz" upper class types tend to be
Now please,, say nothing more or he just may cry in his ackee & saltfish.....or rather "beluga caviar & Vichyssoise" as he refers to it
I will send you some Ackee and Saltfish one of these days. The stuff is available in every supermarket here in teh USA. When next you go to your local supermarket head straight for the section that is labelled "Jamaican food"... you might change your name from Dutty to another Jamaica name "Ackee" ;D
pardna...ah not saying this on a hater scene...but ackee is not a thing to be bragging bout :-\ . And you could find saltfish plenty places outside of Jamaica. It not even half as 'west indian' as you think it is.
And we done tell you that the word "dutty" is no jamaica thing. I hearing that word since i know mihself, be it in TNT or Grenada. The only people in the english speaking caribbean that must be doh use that word is the Bajans, proper as they feel they is.
In the same way west indians does say tutty for thirty and tusty for thirsty and dut for dirt, we does say dutty for dirty. I ent see what yuh point is. Reggae and jerk chicken is alyuh thing, but doh try and claim every west indian thing for jamaica...since we lend alyuh we caribbean cup once or twice yuh putting on airs...doh study it, we taking back we property just now :devil:
Bragging? where did I brag about anything? Seems your mind is playing tricks on you. I'll send you a meal of Ackee and saltfish too. Let me know if you like it with roast bredfruit or dumplings ;D
"Dutty" is not "Jamaican".... Thing is, I have never heard the word used in any context by a Trini, particularly on this message board. Its a regular part of JAmaican dialect. So pardon my ignorance for believing the individual "Dutty" was a Jamaican wanna bee. Although he might still be ;D. Actually, we use the caribbean cup to test our local based players and players looing to break into the senior team. How many of those Caribbean titles did you win outside of T&T? And have you won any in Jamaica? I believe we have won it in your back yards!
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How many of those Caribbean titles did you win outside of T&T? And have you won any in Jamaica? I believe we have won it in your back yards!
T&T won the Caribbean Cup away in:- Barbados (89), Jamaica (95) and Antigua (97). Biggest win in 1997 (T&T 4 v Jamaica 2).
Jamaica won it in 1998, both T&T and Jamaica played co-host that year. However, I think the final was played in T&T, not 100% sure.
Martinique won it in Jamaica in 1993.
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How many of those Caribbean titles did you win outside of T&T? And have you won any in Jamaica? I believe we have won it in your back yards!
T&T won the Caribbean Cup away in:- Barbados (89), Jamaica (95) and Antigua (97). Biggest win in 1997 (T&T 4 v Jamaica 2).
Jamaica won it in 1998, both T&T and Jamaica played co-host that year. However, I think the final was played in T&T, not 100% sure.
Martinique won it in Jamaica in 1993.
Stop asking stupid questions and do your own damn research RF.
The truth will always set you free. Shit talk does just leave yuh smelling...
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How many of those Caribbean titles did you win outside of T&T? And have you won any in Jamaica? I believe we have won it in your back yards!
T&T won the Caribbean Cup away in:- Barbados (89), Jamaica (95) and Antigua (97). Biggest win in 1997 (T&T 4 v Jamaica 2).
Jamaica won it in 1998, both T&T and Jamaica played co-host that year. However, I think the final was played in T&T, not 100% sure.
Martinique won it in Jamaica in 1993.
Stop asking stupid questions and do your own damn research RF.
The truth will always set you free. Shit talk does just leave yuh smelling...
You have hosted the Caribbean cup finals on more occasions than any other caribbean nation. Is it any surprise then that you have won the tourney more than anyone else?
I really cant recall the last time that thing was ever hosted in Jamaica.
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You have hosted the Caribbean cup finals on more occasions than any other caribbean nation. Is it any surprise then that you have won the tourney more than anyone else?
I really cant recall the last time that thing was ever hosted in Jamaica.
T&T hosted the Caribbean Cup in; 1992, 1994, 1996, 1998 (co-host with Jamaica), 1999 & 2001.
Jamaica hosted the Caribbean Cup in; 1991, 1993, 1995 & 1998 (co-host with T&T).
Bear in mind we also have the facility to host such events.
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You have hosted the Caribbean cup finals on more occasions than any other caribbean nation. Is it any surprise then that you have won the tourney more than anyone else?
I really cant recall the last time that thing was ever hosted in Jamaica.
T&T hosted the Caribbean Cup in; 1992, 1994, 1996, 1998 (co-host with Jamaica), 1999 & 2001.
Jamaica hosted the Caribbean Cup in; 1991, 1993, 1995 & 1998 (co-host with T&T).
Bear in mind we also have the facility to host such events.
Well after seein the amount of annual dates and how recent they were, I really have to question whether reggaefan is FROM jamaica?? has ever even been to Jamaica??....I think he's really ah refugee from montserrat
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Jamaica have one football field how de ass they host them games. And that one field bumpy more than Penal Rock Road. Goat grazing on it now...
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Jamaica have one football field how de ass they host them games. And that one field bumpy more than Penal Rock Road. Goat grazing on it now...
And yet with the 1 stadium (THE OFFICE) Fox Soccer Channel is coming here. How ironic. :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Jamaica have one football field how de ass they host them games. And that one field bumpy more than Penal Rock Road. Goat grazing on it now...
And yet with the 1 stadium (THE OFFICE) Fox Soccer Channel is coming here. How ironic. :rotfl: :rotfl:
True, well the american media is known for giving charity to impoverished countries first
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Jamaica have one football field how de ass they host them games. And that one field bumpy more than Penal Rock Road. Goat grazing on it now...
And yet with the 1 stadium (THE OFFICE) Fox Soccer Channel is coming here. How ironic. :rotfl: :rotfl:
True, well the american media is known for giving charity to impoverished countries first
No. They know who the true football power is in the Caribbean and an upcoming force in CONCACAF. ;D ;D
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Jamaica have one football field how de ass they host them games. And that one field bumpy more than Penal Rock Road. Goat grazing on it now...
And yet with the 1 stadium (THE OFFICE) Fox Soccer Channel is coming here. How ironic. :rotfl: :rotfl:
True, well the american media is known for giving charity to impoverished countries first
Stick to football. this is not about who rich or who poor. Last time I checked, T&T and Jamaica were both classified as third world countries.
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Jamaica have one football field how de ass they host them games. And that one field bumpy more than Penal Rock Road. Goat grazing on it now...
And yet with the 1 stadium (THE OFFICE) Fox Soccer Channel is coming here. How ironic. :rotfl: :rotfl:
True, well the american media is known for giving charity to impoverished countries first
Stick to football. this is not about who rich or who poor. Last time I checked, T&T and Jamaica were both classified as third world countries.
Yes, but keep in mind last time you checked you coudnt recall the last time the carribbean cup was held in jamaica
so really, should you be the one allowed to do all this big time thinking and fact checking??
....dont think so
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Jamaica have one football field how de ass they host them games. And that one field bumpy more than Penal Rock Road. Goat grazing on it now...
And yet with the 1 stadium (THE OFFICE) Fox Soccer Channel is coming here. How ironic. :rotfl: :rotfl:
True, well the american media is known for giving charity to impoverished countries first
Stick to football. this is not about who rich or who poor. Last time I checked, T&T and Jamaica were both classified as third world countries.
Yes, but keep in mind last time you checked you coudnt recall the last time the carribbean cup was held in jamaica
so really, should you be the one allowed to do all this big time thinking and fact checking??
....dont think so
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The simple fact is FOX SOCCER CHANNEL did not select Jamaica for its economic status, but where the true football fans are. World Cup is over and there is hardly a whisper of T&T but the World still talks about the REGGAE BOYZ. ;D
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The simple fact is FOX SOCCER CHANNEL did not select Jamaica for its economic status, but where the true football fans are. World Cup is over and there is hardly a whisper of T&T but the World still talks about the REGGAE BOYZ. ;D
:yawning:...yes but the world still talks about them when the question "what ever happened to...." comes up
Meanwhile back at 'home'
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20010518/sports/sports1.html
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The simple fact is FOX SOCCER CHANNEL did not select Jamaica for its economic status, but where the true football fans are. World Cup is over and there is hardly a whisper of T&T but the World still talks about the REGGAE BOYZ. ;D
:yawning:...yes but the world still talks about them when the question "what ever happened to...." comes up
Meanwhile back at 'home'
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20010518/sports/sports1.html
I remember the 2001 Copa Caribe clearly where Clayton Ince deliberately let the ball slip through his hands so that Martinique could advance to the semi-finals ahead of Jamaica. Boy! Talk about T&T fear of not winning the Cup that year. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Then:
Trinidad and Tobago - Jamaica
1:2 (1:1)
Match
Date
30-JUN-01
Venue
Port Of Spain
Stadium
Queen's Park Oval
Time
16:00
Spectators
4000
Goals Scored
JOHN Stern (TRI) 26', LOWE Onandi (JAM) 30', BURTON Deon (JAM) 68'.
Trinidad and Tobago Jamaica
[ 3] SAUNDERS Dale [ 4] DIXON Linval
[ 4] ANDREWS Marvin [ 5] GOODISON Ian
[ 5] CARRINGTON Reynold [ 6] SIMPSON Fitzroy
[ 6] JOHN Avery (-87') [12] HYDE Micah (-45')
[ 9] DWARIKA Arnold [13] LAWRENCE Aaron (GK)
[13] ELCOCK Ancil [14] MARSHALL Tyrone
[14] JOHN Stern [15] GARDNER Ricardo
[15] TROTMAN Mickey (-57') [18] BURTON Deon (-85')
[17] ROUGIER Anthony [19] SINCLAIR Frank
[18] PIERRE Nigel (-82') [20] POWELL Darryl (-43')
[21] INCE Clayton (GK) [31] LOWE Onandi
Substitutes Substitutes
[ 1] MC COMIE Michael (GK) [ 3] DAWES Christopher
[ 7] LAWRENCE Dennis [ 8] LAWRENCE James (+43')
[ 8] EVE Angus (+57') [ 9] WILLIAMS Andrew (+45')
[10] ANDREWS Lyndon (+87') [10] FULLER Ricardo (+85')
[11] GLASGOW Gary (+82') [17] MC DONALD Marco
[12] EDWARDS Carlos [21] HARRIS Wolde
[16] PIERRE Anton [30] RICKETTS Donovan (GK)
Coach SIMOES Rene Coach DE OLIVEIRA Clovis
Cautions
GOODISON Ian (JAM) 5', TROTMAN Mickey (TRI) 29', GARDNER Ricardo (JAM) 69'.
Expulsions
none.
Match Officials
Referee MENDEZ GONZALEZ Gustavo, URU
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Copyright © FIFA 2002
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The programming for this new channel looks real good.
The name leaves a little to be desired if they truly want to appeal to a bigger audience but it is still something identifiable brand wise.
I know some people here might blank it jus for the name but it have plenty opportunity for the region's sportsmen to be showcased and make a case for changing the name.
The name Barely tolerable for now.
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The simple fact is FOX SOCCER CHANNEL did not select Jamaica for its economic status, but where the true football fans are. World Cup is over and there is hardly a whisper of T&T but the World still talks about the REGGAE BOYZ. ;D
:yawning:...yes but the world still talks about them when the question "what ever happened to...." comes up
Meanwhile back at 'home'
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20010518/sports/sports1.html
I remember the 2001 Copa Caribe clearly where Clayton Ince deliberately let the ball slip through his hands so that Martinique could advance to the semi-finals ahead of Jamaica. Boy! Talk about T&T fear of not winning the Cup that year. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Then:
Trinidad and Tobago - Jamaica
1:2 (1:1)
Match
Date
30-JUN-01
Venue
Port Of Spain
Stadium
Queen's Park Oval
Time
16:00
Spectators
4000
You guys really have to introduce me to this quirky world where serious teams 'GIVE' wins to their biggest rivals (U-16) and keepers damage their reputations by gifting goals (copa caribe). I seriously doubt Clayton Ince gifted a winning goal to Martinique - all Jamaica would have had to do was beat Barbados by one more goal to qualify in front of MArtinique on head to head. Your team was shitty. Just admit it.
I also like how you abandon your longtime bs tactic of bringing up a Digicell Cup win last year to match us qualifying for the World Cup, to now suddenly, trying to hide a Copa Caribe loss (to TNT) and failure (by not getting past the first round) by making reference to a world cup qualifier that was basically meaningless to both teams (for pete's sake 4000 people came out to see it) and in which TNT had already suffered from the loss of yorke and latapy after the 'retirement' debacle.
Btw, you're being delusional if you thing people outside of J'ca and J'cans remember your performance in 1998 after 2 missed cups, the same way that noone will remember either our Sweden or England match if we miss the boat in south africa AND brazil.
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Jamaica have one football field how de ass they host them games. And that one field bumpy more than Penal Rock Road. Goat grazing on it now...
And yet with the 1 stadium (THE OFFICE) Fox Soccer Channel is coming here. How ironic. :rotfl: :rotfl:
True, well the american media is known for giving charity to impoverished countries first
Stick to football. this is not about who rich or who poor. Last time I checked, T&T and Jamaica were both classified as third world countries.
A dat mi cant tek bout dem more time yunnuh. Dem Trini ya gwan a way sumtime u zeet. Everytime man a talk bout football dem a change di subject and a try diss. Yow unnuh easy ya man cause no matter how much we impoverished we still the number 1 tourist destination. We poor but we culture top class. STICK TO FOOTBALL PLZ.
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Jamaica have one football field how de ass they host them games. And that one field bumpy more than Penal Rock Road. Goat grazing on it now...
And yet with the 1 stadium (THE OFFICE) Fox Soccer Channel is coming here. How ironic. :rotfl: :rotfl:
True, well the american media is known for giving charity to impoverished countries first
Stick to football. this is not about who rich or who poor. Last time I checked, T&T and Jamaica were both classified as third world countries.
A dat mi cant tek bout dem more time yunnuh. Dem Trini ya gwan a way sumtime u zeet. Everytime man a talk bout football dem a change di subject and a try diss. Yow unnuh easy ya man cause no matter how much we impoverished we still the number 1 tourist destination. We poor but we culture top class. STICK TO FOOTBALL PLZ.
Lionpaw! That's the reason I don't respond to the post sometimes because some of these Trinis switch from football to politics. Or they start cursing showing that they have little or no football sense. T&T fear is finally catching up to that they are never really football power without Jack Warner's help.
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Lionpaw! That's the reason I don't respond to the post sometimes because some of these Trinis switch from football to politics. Or they start cursing showing that they have little or no football sense. T&T fear is finally catching up to that they are never really football power without Jack Warner's help.
How is this post keeping it about the station and away from the politics.
U seem content to respond to the politics talk judging from your posts.
ANYWAY.
The station is a good thing that will benefit Caribbean fans on a whole. Try yuh best not to use it as something to rub in people face and u might get a better response :beermug:
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Lionpaw! That's the reason I don't respond to the post sometimes because some of these Trinis switch from football to politics. Or they start cursing showing that they have little or no football sense. T&T fear is finally catching up to that they are never really football power without Jack Warner's help.
How is this post keeping it about the station and away from the politics.
U seem content to respond to the politics talk judging from your posts.
ANYWAY.
The station is a good thing that will benefit Caribbean fans on a whole. Try yuh best not to use it as something to rub in people face and u might get a better response :beermug:
My focus is on football not politics which I did not start and never will. Tell you compatriots to stick to football. Focus.
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My focus is on football not politics which I did not start and never will. Tell you compatriots to stick to football. Focus.
You are the visitor so u going to get all the pong. Is up to u to respond to every petty comment or just ignore it.
Your reputation more than anything else will determine what kinda responses u get so just ignore what u consider political comments otherwise u will never talk about football.
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Lets try to stick to the facts. FSC Jamaica is something positve for Jamaican Football. All of the talk about them being economically inferior is irrelavant. No firm will invest money like that without doing market research. So props to JA for that.
However some of the Jamaican posters seem to be losing their heads. The world isn't still talking about Jamaica at France 98. Even the hugely popular Soca Warriors are now fading in the minds of many abroad. Don't get it twisted consistency is the key. Neither JA nor T&T can lay claim to that as yet. People talk about Jamaican T&F which is undisputably World Class- a measure of years of dedication and consistent talent from that country. No country in the Caribbean can claim a similar record in football.
Furthermore, I don't see the point in denying the fact that Trinidad and Tobago are the perrenial Kings of Caribbean football and can match and beat any Caribbean team's record of World Cup qualification and Goal Cup participation.It just doesn't make sense. Somebody do the statistical honours for me.
Let's just try to keep the discussion within the context of football and let's talk football sensibly. You cyar take a JA result to say how good allyuh is and then belittle a T&T result at your convenience talking about which tourney was at home and which one was away, steups.
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My focus is on football not politics which I did not start and never will. Tell you compatriots to stick to football. Focus.
You are the visitor so u going to get all the pong. Is up to u to respond to every petty comment or just ignore it.
Your reputation more than anything else will determine what kinda responses u get so just ignore what u consider political comments otherwise u will never talk about football.
When I joined this forum I warned that I would not respond to posts that cursed. Whether I'm a visitor or not I respond without cursing and I believe I should expect the same from everyone. But it seems like petty jealousy and not football rivalry that is driving some of these responses.
Fooball rivalries have and will always be a rabid mainstay of countries with fanatic football fans. Such is the rivalry between Jamaica and T&T over the years. So something like: FOX SOCCER CHANNEL JAMAICA will cause some feelings of resentment and jealousy toward Jamaica and our football.
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Fooball rivalries have and will always be a rabid mainstay of countries with fanatic football fans. Such is the rivalry between Jamaica and T&T over the years. So something like: FOX SOCCER CHANNEL JAMAICA will cause some feelings of resentment and jealousy toward Jamaica and our football.
Seeing that's your hypothesis, is that per chance the reason you posted it here in the first place? To provoke?
If so, you get what you lookin for and want to look to take high road talkin bout "stick to football"?
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Fooball rivalries have and will always be a rabid mainstay of countries with fanatic football fans. Such is the rivalry between Jamaica and T&T over the years. So something like: FOX SOCCER CHANNEL JAMAICA will cause some feelings of resentment and jealousy toward Jamaica and our football.
Seeing that's your hypothesis, is that per chance the reason you posted it here in the first place? To provoke?
If so, you get what you lookin for and want to look to take high road talkin bout "stick to football"?
Read the post again. Where did it imply anything about politics unless it invovles FIFA or CONCACAF. Isn't FOX SOCCER Channel a private entity. The earlier responses did not take it as provocation. How did you?
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Ignorance is bliss yes. Now to clarify. Is this agreement between Fox and Jamacia sports channel? if so what is the benefit for exposure of allCaribbean sporting events on the Fox sports channel?
Is this another short sightedness of thinking by North Americans that the Caribbean begins and ends with Jamacia? I thought all that chupidness ended when we made the World Cup?
Could Fox not expand their coverage to a regional Caribbean coverage? Just seeking clarity about the arrangement. It appears that they will cover more caribbean sports yet...again people does use teh term loosely to refer to jamacians as the only caribbean country. Yes some people wallow in ignorance.
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Furthermore, I don't see the point in denying the fact that Trinidad and Tobago are the perrenial Kings of Caribbean football and can match and beat any Caribbean team's record of World Cup qualification and Goal Cup participation.It just doesn't make sense. Somebody do the statistical honours for me.
When I joined this forum I remember posting stats between Jamaica & T&T from 1925 to the present even going as far as suggesting that a fresh start should be made for the new century.
Your memory going.
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Ignorance is bliss yes. Now to clarify. Is this agreement between Fox and Jamacia sports channel? if so what is the benefit for exposure of allCaribbean sporting events on the Fox sports channel?
Is this another short sightedness of thinking by North Americans that the Caribbean begins and ends with Jamacia? I thought all that chupidness ended when we made the World Cup?
Could Fox not expand their coverage to a regional Caribbean coverage? Just seeking clarity about the arrangement. It appears that they will cover more caribbean sports yet...again people does use teh term loosely to refer to jamacians as the only caribbean country. Yes some people wallow in ignorance.
That's a question you have to ask IMC and SPORTSMAX. I am sure they will soon come to T&T.
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ssfl start so who the f cares about jamrock ???
go and willie bounce or somthing nah >:(
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Furthermore, I don't see the point in denying the fact that Trinidad and Tobago are the perrenial Kings of Caribbean football and can match and beat any Caribbean team's record of World Cup qualification and Goal Cup participation.It just doesn't make sense. Somebody do the statistical honours for me.
When I joined this forum I remember posting stats between Jamaica & T&T from 1925 to the present even going as far as suggesting that a fresh start should be made for the new century.
Your memory going.
And I also remember defeating that logic of using strictly a head to head record to demonstrate dominance. I used the example Brazil's results against Norway to show that a head to head record does not accurately rate any team. Furthermore, if I remember correctly the very same record you produced indicated a slight advantage to T&T in terms of games won, goals scored and conceded, so either way your rationale is unacceptable.
We have won more Caribbean Cups than you , reached further in the Goal Cup and qualified to the World Cup with an almost totally born and bred Trini team.
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My goodness..are the Jamaican ladies association STILL 'debating'? :yapping:
You three truly argue like women...one boasts, the other brings up a non related football topic
Dey get a little online ribbing and suddenly want to change the topic and start typing hysterically in large caps and feel the need to 'defend' their postion.....classic female tactics
Look ladies...kittenpaw and...um the other two...really cant remember the names :yawning:
I understand it may that time of the month for 'unno'...but really if there is sand in your collective tampons you should change them
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Ignorance is bliss yes. Now to clarify. Is this agreement between Fox and Jamacia sports channel? if so what is the benefit for exposure of allCaribbean sporting events on the Fox sports channel?
Is this another short sightedness of thinking by North Americans that the Caribbean begins and ends with Jamacia? I thought all that chupidness ended when we made the World Cup?
Could Fox not expand their coverage to a regional Caribbean coverage? Just seeking clarity about the arrangement. It appears that they will cover more caribbean sports yet...again people does use teh term loosely to refer to jamacians as the only caribbean country. Yes some people wallow in ignorance.
that is the first thing i ask and i get pong fuh it by jamaica 2099 bout i did not read and understand the article and all kind ah crap . Fox sports canada for people living in canada, fox sports jamaica for jamaicans people in yard not fuh all west indians talk done i hope they block that channel in trinidad and them other islands
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Sometimes I wonder how old the folks on this site are. This news is great for the Caribbean.
Trinis (and other nationalities) have no-one else to blame for not having their own channel, but themselves.
Many comments here espouse the "crab in barrel" syndrome. As a proud trini (and proud Caribbean) native, we seem to not be the most supportive or creative people AND we tend to be highly critical of MOST things. Destructive criticism is the easistt thing for anyone to do. I dare folks here on socawarriors.net to come up with positive comments, or at worst, constructive criticism when they respond to the different threads.
Maybe one day, we'll use our energies to forge new horizons ito excel in different disciplines and businesses, but for now: DON'T HATE, PARTICIPATE!
Hopefully, next world cup will see more than one caribbean country their representing all of our wonderful cultures!
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Ok, enough is enough.
There are few Trinis on the site that rate Ja as much as me over the years, I give props where props is due.
But the fact of the matter is that all tis T&T-Ja debate is getting a alittle stale now.
You all sound like a bunch of 9 year olds crying for attention.
These debates have been going on ever since the boards were formed about 8 years ago, and i guess it will always keep going on.
The players change, the stupid arguments contine.
RF is perhaps the longest standing member of this rivalry.
To all the Jamaicans, this is a Trinidad football site.
It says alot that you all have to come onto our site and debate that ja is better than Trinidad.
Right now, there are no Trinis who do that on the RBZ site.
That says a lot.
Are you that insecure?
Does it hurt that bad that T&T made the WC, got the world's attention and Ja stayed at home and got embarassed in a couple internationals?
Does it hurt that bad that TT U-16 just whipped you, after you all promised such a beating for T&T?
Let it go.
It is undisputed that TT are presently the kings of football in the Caribbean, by virtue of the WC. This was something that many Trinis online had to endure hearing Ja boast about for years, and that T&T could never make a WC, no matter how much Caribbean Cups we won. Now we have a WC appearance just like u, we have won like 3 times more caribbean Cups than you, we beating you at youth football, we still have the history of players playing at the top clubs in the best competitions.
Tell me...Has a Ja player ever played in the European Cup? Has a Ja player ever played in the Champions League? Has a Ja player ever been TOP SCORER in the Champions League? Has a Ja player even be joint top scorer in the Premiership? Has Ja player ever been top MLS scorer for 2 consecutive seasons? Has a Ja player ever been Scottish Player of the year? Has a Ja player even won player of the month in England? Has there ever been a premiership game you see 2 Jamaicans going head to head in keen battle for their respective teams? Have Ja ever beaten the USA at any level? Has Ja ever won more than one game in Central America?
I can go on and on.
What is the point?
T&T is a pedigree football nation in CONCACAF.
Ja is very good as well.
But dont come here on this site being insecure about it because of recent results and trends.
T&T has been a regional CONCACAF powerhouse since the 70's. We sent Port of Spain club teams that beat Ja national teams in decades gone by (eg Maple).
I will not even talk about 1973 WC Qualification to Germany.
Defense Force club team of T&T has even won the CONCACAF club championships already (sometime in the 1980's).
When Ja was being mauled 5-1 or 5-1 by the US in 1989 in prelim WC qualifiers, TT was holding the US to 1-1 draw in LA.
So dont dont come here on this site trying to belittle Trinidad and Tobago's football pedigree.
We have a much richer and successful tradition of football than you.
Even Haiti has, and Cuba too.
Take away 1995-1999 from Ja's football history, what do you have to talk about?
I am not belittling you, its just from the perspective of a Trini who is getting fed up of the recent stupid arguments between T&T and Ja footballl.
It wrenks of insecurity and jealosy on Ja's part.
Get over it, wheel and come again for 2010, I am sure Ja will do well and be more competitive.
One day for you, one day for me, that is how it goes, it just so happens to be T&T's day now.
To the TT posters who bring up the crime and politics and thing, well as much as allyuh could say what allyuh want, some of allyuh no better than some of the insecure Jamaicans. With people like allyuh in both countries, no wonder it does have so much hate and bitterness.
Lets keep it to football nah.
Big up to Ja for the sportsmax/fox soccer channel initiative.
To be honest, we have nutten like Sportsmax in T&T, thats how much Ja follow their sports, each and every sport. Imagine a Trini channel that brings 99% coverage of all T&T teams in all sports. Wow, only a dream.
Why cant we just focus on the positives from each other and work with that?
Big up T&T and Ja.
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Stick to football. this is not about who rich or who poor. Last time I checked, T&T and Jamaica were both classified as third world countries.
Check again, T&T is now a Developing Nation, no more third world status.
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I remember the 2001 Copa Caribe clearly where Clayton Ince deliberately let the ball slip through his hands so that Martinique could advance to the semi-finals ahead of Jamaica. Boy! Talk about T&T fear of not winning the Cup that year. :rotfl: :rotfl:.
jamaica2099, Didn't T&T beat Jamaica (2-1) in that Cup though.
JAM vs MQE 1:0 (0:0)
TRI vs BRB 5:0 (2:0)
TRI vs JAM (http://www.concacaf.com/matchReport.asp?fltab=A&dvab=F&gmid=29&lgid=1095&seid=2001) 2:1 (0:1)
TRI vs MQE 1:2 (1:1)
BRB vs JAM 1:2 (1:2)
TRI vs CUB 2:0 (1:0)
HAI vs TRI 0:3 (0:1)
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wow, this topic getting real mix-up, but the way I understood the contributiion in the first place was that the Jca station would be covering more sports throughout the caribbean..
seems to me it's now up to a tt channel to have links to get our sports coverage expanded. maybe some smart person will pick up on this idea to make some money- what about it? any entrepreneurs??
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Trini I wouldn't bother to quote your post but you hit the nail right on the head. Those facts have more weight than a head-to-head record with Jamaica that still shows a marginal superiority for T&T. JA can boast of being ahead of us in the past few years but this is our time now. We are back where we are supposed to be- the best in Caribbean and able to challenge for a spot in World Cups.
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Stick to football. this is not about who rich or who poor. Last time I checked, T&T and Jamaica were both classified as third world countries.
Check again, T&T is now a Developing Nation, no more third world status.
Lol@ you. You a real eediat. ahahaha. They use the term Developing Nation to replace Third World because the term Third World was seen as offensive. Damn azz!!! lol. A First World country is referred to as a Developed Country. lol ahhh u make me day with da joke dhey.
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Furthermore, I don't see the point in denying the fact that Trinidad and Tobago are the perrenial Kings of Caribbean football and can match and beat any Caribbean team's record of World Cup qualification and Goal Cup participation.It just doesn't make sense. Somebody do the statistical honours for me.
When I joined this forum I remember posting stats between Jamaica & T&T from 1925 to the present even going as far as suggesting that a fresh start should be made for the new century.
Your memory going.
And I also remember defeating that logic of using strictly a head to head record to demonstrate dominance. I used the example Brazil's results against Norway to show that a head to head record does not accurately rate any team. Furthermore, if I remember correctly the very same record you produced indicated a slight advantage to T&T in terms of games won, goals scored and conceded, so either way your rationale is unacceptable.
We have won more Caribbean Cups than you , reached further in the Goal Cup and qualified to the World Cup with an almost totally born and bred Trini team.
Wow! If you can defeat logical and factual stats on a whim then what's there to talk about. We are right back at zero. Damn! Did I suggest we start fresh! I can't seem to remember.
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Ok, enough is enough.
There are few Trinis on the site that rate Ja as much as me over the years, I give props where props is due.
But the fact of the matter is that all tis T&T-Ja debate is getting a alittle stale now.
You all sound like a bunch of 9 year olds crying for attention.
These debates have been going on ever since the boards were formed about 8 years ago, and i guess it will always keep going on.
The players change, the stupid arguments contine.
RF is perhaps the longest standing member of this rivalry.
To all the Jamaicans, this is a Trinidad football site.
It says alot that you all have to come onto our site and debate that ja is better than Trinidad.
Right now, there are no Trinis who do that on the RBZ site.
That says a lot.
Are you that insecure?
Does it hurt that bad that T&T made the WC, got the world's attention and Ja stayed at home and got embarassed in a couple internationals?
Does it hurt that bad that TT U-16 just whipped you, after you all promised such a beating for T&T?
Let it go.
It is undisputed that TT are presently the kings of football in the Caribbean, by virtue of the WC. This was something that many Trinis online had to endure hearing Ja boast about for years, and that T&T could never make a WC, no matter how much Caribbean Cups we won. Now we have a WC appearance just like u, we have won like 3 times more caribbean Cups than you, we beating you at youth football, we still have the history of players playing at the top clubs in the best competitions.
Tell me...Has a Ja player ever played in the European Cup? Has a Ja player ever played in the Champions League? Has a Ja player ever been TOP SCORER in the Champions League? Has a Ja player even be joint top scorer in the Premiership? Has Ja player ever been top MLS scorer for 2 consecutive seasons? Has a Ja player ever been Scottish Player of the year? Has a Ja player even won player of the month in England? Has there ever been a premiership game you see 2 Jamaicans going head to head in keen battle for their respective teams? Have Ja ever beaten the USA at any level? Has Ja ever won more than one game in Central America?
I can go on and on.
What is the point?
T&T is a pedigree football nation in CONCACAF.
Ja is very good as well.
But dont come here on this site being insecure about it because of recent results and trends.
T&T has been a regional CONCACAF powerhouse since the 70's. We sent Port of Spain club teams that beat Ja national teams in decades gone by (eg Maple).
I will not even talk about 1973 WC Qualification to Germany.
Defense Force club team of T&T has even won the CONCACAF club championships already (sometime in the 1980's).
When Ja was being mauled 5-1 or 5-1 by the US in 1989 in prelim WC qualifiers, TT was holding the US to 1-1 draw in LA.
So dont dont come here on this site trying to belittle Trinidad and Tobago's football pedigree.
We have a much richer and successful tradition of football than you.
Even Haiti has, and Cuba too.
Take away 1995-1999 from Ja's football history, what do you have to talk about?
I am not belittling you, its just from the perspective of a Trini who is getting fed up of the recent stupid arguments between T&T and Ja footballl.
It wrenks of insecurity and jealosy on Ja's part.
Get over it, wheel and come again for 2010, I am sure Ja will do well and be more competitive.
One day for you, one day for me, that is how it goes, it just so happens to be T&T's day now.
To the TT posters who bring up the crime and politics and thing, well as much as allyuh could say what allyuh want, some of allyuh no better than some of the insecure Jamaicans. With people like allyuh in both countries, no wonder it does have so much hate and bitterness.
Lets keep it to football nah.
Big up to Ja for the sportsmax/fox soccer channel initiative.
To be honest, we have nutten like Sportsmax in T&T, thats how much Ja follow their sports, each and every sport. Imagine a Trini channel that brings 99% coverage of all T&T teams in all sports. Wow, only a dream.
Why cant we just focus on the positives from each other and work with that?
Big up T&T and Ja.
Shouldn't this be a complaint to the moderators.
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Ignorance is bliss yes. Now to clarify. Is this agreement between Fox and Jamacia sports channel? if so what is the benefit for exposure of allCaribbean sporting events on the Fox sports channel?
Is this another short sightedness of thinking by North Americans that the Caribbean begins and ends with Jamacia? I thought all that chupidness ended when we made the World Cup?
Could Fox not expand their coverage to a regional Caribbean coverage? Just seeking clarity about the arrangement. It appears that they will cover more caribbean sports yet...again people does use teh term loosely to refer to jamacians as the only caribbean country. Yes some people wallow in ignorance.
that is the first thing i ask and i get pong fuh it by jamaica 2099 bout i did not read and understand the article and all kind ah crap . Fox sports canada for people living in canada, fox sports jamaica for jamaicans people in yard not fuh all west indians talk done i hope they block that channel in trinidad and them other islands
Why should the other islands block FOX SOCCER CHANNEL JAMAICA when they have a clear opportunity to study our tactics and weaknesses.
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*sigh* sonny,, I know you are somehow under the impression that you will be getting to see Portmore FC vs Tivoli gardens on a daily basis
But really you should read about this great deal you're getting
First off, it seems you think Fox is going to build some kinda station in jamaica....its simply your already existing sportsmax taking signals from a fox satellite feed in the states
Sports max is changing their name to fox soccer jamaica....y'know simply a name change much like you did not too long ago, did that make you somehow better? no!! same antagonist
Heres what youre going to get:
"Together, the two channels will be the exclusive broadcasters of major international televised sports in Jamaica, including exclusive coverage of the Barclays English Premier League, the FA Cup, EURO 2008 qualifiers and England home international matches"
All foreign content thus far...nice
and
"Aside from the English Premiership and FA Cup, Fox Soccer Channel Jamaica will broadcast Italian Serie A, Argentine League, CONCACAF Champions Cup and the USA's Major League Soccer, as well as the daily Sky Sports News and Fox Sports World Report. SportsMax, which broadcasts to 17 countries in the Caribbean, exclusively broadcasts programs such as the Overseas West Indies cricket tours, the upcoming Ashes: Australia vs. England, EURO 2008 qualifiers, the South American COPA America and the IAAF Grand Prix"
Even more foreign content...nice
So I understand you think you might get to see wadadahead fc play regularly...but that wont happen
Here is the hope however
"Newton Robertson, Chief Operating Officer of SportsMax. "The agreement solidifies our position as it pairs the two most-watched local sports channels, and gives IMC an opportunity to broadcast our local and regional content into the USA and Canadian markets"
Now if north americans dont watch their own football...you really think they will want to see games of wadadahead vs madeville??..............dont think so
I think when that station shows some soca warriors games the ratings will go up however
But do keep typing fox soccer channel in all caps as if pilfering foreign satellite signals is a huge groundbreaking acheivement
Good luck with that :yawning:
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I remember the 2001 Copa Caribe clearly where Clayton Ince deliberately let the ball slip through his hands so that Martinique could advance to the semi-finals ahead of Jamaica. Boy! Talk about T&T fear of not winning the Cup that year. :rotfl: :rotfl:.
jamaica2099, Didn't T&T beat Jamaica (2-1) in that Cup though.
JAM vs MQE 1:0 (0:0)
TRI vs BRB 5:0 (2:0)
TRI vs JAM (http://www.concacaf.com/matchReport.asp?fltab=A&dvab=F&gmid=29&lgid=1095&seid=2001) 2:1 (0:1)
TRI vs MQE 1:2 (1:1)
BRB vs JAM 1:2 (1:2)
TRI vs CUB 2:0 (1:0)
HAI vs TRI 0:3 (0:1)
Don't post the same thing twice. Look for the reason why I responded to that post.
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wow, this topic getting real mix-up, but the way I understood the contributiion in the first place was that the Jca station would be covering more sports throughout the caribbean..
seems to me it's now up to a tt channel to have links to get our sports coverage expanded. maybe some smart person will pick up on this idea to make some money- what about it? any entrepreneurs??
Yeah! Since Trinis keep spouting that they have more money than Jamaica. :devil:
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Trini I wouldn't bother to quote your post but you hit the nail right on the head. Those facts have more weight than a head-to-head record with Jamaica that still shows a marginal superiority for T&T. JA can boast of being ahead of us in the past few years but this is our time now. We are back where we are supposed to be- the best in Caribbean and able to challenge for a spot in World Cups.
Challenge for which WORLD CUP exactly?
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*sigh* sonny,, I know you are somehow under the impression that you will be getting to see Portmore FC vs Tivoli gardens on a daily basis
But really you should read about this great deal you're getting
First off, it seems you think Fox is going to build some kinda station in jamaica....its simply your already existing sportsmax taking signals from a fox satellite feed in the states
Sports max is changing their name to fox soccer jamaica....y'know simply a name change much like you did not too long ago, did that make you somehow better? no!! same antagonist
Heres what youre going to get:
"Together, the two channels will be the exclusive broadcasters of major international televised sports in Jamaica, including exclusive coverage of the Barclays English Premier League, the FA Cup, EURO 2008 qualifiers and England home international matches"
All foreign content thus far...nice
and
"Aside from the English Premiership and FA Cup, Fox Soccer Channel Jamaica will broadcast Italian Serie A, Argentine League, CONCACAF Champions Cup and the USA's Major League Soccer, as well as the daily Sky Sports News and Fox Sports World Report. SportsMax, which broadcasts to 17 countries in the Caribbean, exclusively broadcasts programs such as the Overseas West Indies cricket tours, the upcoming Ashes: Australia vs. England, EURO 2008 qualifiers, the South American COPA America and the IAAF Grand Prix"
Even more foreign content...nice
So I understand you think you might get to see wadadahead fc play regularly...but that wont happen
Here is the hope however
"Newton Robertson, Chief Operating Officer of SportsMax. "The agreement solidifies our position as it pairs the two most-watched local sports channels, and gives IMC an opportunity to broadcast our local and regional content into the USA and Canadian markets"
Now if north americans dont watch their own football...you really think they will want to see games of wadadahead vs madeville??..............dont think so
I think when that station shows some soca warriors games the ratings will go up however
But do keep typing fox soccer channel in all caps as if pilfering foreign satellite signals is a huge groundbreaking acheivement
Good luck with that :yawning:
Didn't I tell you to ask IMC and SPORTSMAX. ??? ???
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Trini I wouldn't bother to quote your post but you hit the nail right on the head. Those facts have more weight than a head-to-head record with Jamaica that still shows a marginal superiority for T&T. JA can boast of being ahead of us in the past few years but this is our time now. We are back where we are supposed to be- the best in Caribbean and able to challenge for a spot in World Cups.
Challenge for which WORLD CUP exactly?
I said challenge for a spot at world Cups. Let me break it down for you. I was implying that we have good chance at qualifying for World Cup competitions.
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Trini I wouldn't bother to quote your post but you hit the nail right on the head. Those facts have more weight than a head-to-head record with Jamaica that still shows a marginal superiority for T&T. JA can boast of being ahead of us in the past few years but this is our time now. We are back where we are supposed to be- the best in Caribbean and able to challenge for a spot in World Cups.
Challenge for which WORLD CUP exactly?
I said challenge for a spot at world Cups. Let me break it down for you. I was implying that we have good chance at qualifying for World Cup competitions.
Well then. It's just a matter of waiting and watching to see who will grab a 2010 World Cup berth. The reality is only 1 Caribbean side can make the World Cup. AND I DON'T REALLY SEE T&T making it to South Africa as long as Jamaica is in the final round.
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Trini I wouldn't bother to quote your post but you hit the nail right on the head. Those facts have more weight than a head-to-head record with Jamaica that still shows a marginal superiority for T&T. JA can boast of being ahead of us in the past few years but this is our time now. We are back where we are supposed to be- the best in Caribbean and able to challenge for a spot in World Cups.
Challenge for which WORLD CUP exactly?
I said challenge for a spot at world Cups. Let me break it down for you. I was implying that we have good chance at qualifying for World Cup competitions.
Well then. It's just a matter of waiting and watching to see who will grab a 2010 World Cup berth. The reality is only 1 Caribbean side can make the World Cup. AND I DON'T REALLY SEE T&T making it to South Africa as long as Jamaica is in the final round.
English is a funny language. In case you are not aware there are several different World Cup competitions. People with vision see beyond 2010, they also see 2007 2008, 2009, 2011, and also 2014 etc etc. Or is it only the jamaican senior team that plays football?
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Ok, enough is enough.
There are few Trinis on the site that rate Ja as much as me over the years, I give props where props is due.
But the fact of the matter is that all tis T&T-Ja debate is getting a alittle stale now.
You all sound like a bunch of 9 year olds crying for attention.
These debates have been going on ever since the boards were formed about 8 years ago, and i guess it will always keep going on.
The players change, the stupid arguments contine.
RF is perhaps the longest standing member of this rivalry.
To all the Jamaicans, this is a Trinidad football site.
It says alot that you all have to come onto our site and debate that ja is better than Trinidad.
Right now, there are no Trinis who do that on the RBZ site.
That says a lot.
Are you that insecure?
Does it hurt that bad that T&T made the WC, got the world's attention and Ja stayed at home and got embarassed in a couple internationals?
Does it hurt that bad that TT U-16 just whipped you, after you all promised such a beating for T&T?
Let it go.
It is undisputed that TT are presently the kings of football in the Caribbean, by virtue of the WC. This was something that many Trinis online had to endure hearing Ja boast about for years, and that T&T could never make a WC, no matter how much Caribbean Cups we won. Now we have a WC appearance just like u, we have won like 3 times more caribbean Cups than you, we beating you at youth football, we still have the history of players playing at the top clubs in the best competitions.
Tell me...Has a Ja player ever played in the European Cup? Has a Ja player ever played in the Champions League? Has a Ja player ever been TOP SCORER in the Champions League? Has a Ja player even be joint top scorer in the Premiership? Has Ja player ever been top MLS scorer for 2 consecutive seasons? Has a Ja player ever been Scottish Player of the year? Has a Ja player even won player of the month in England? Has there ever been a premiership game you see 2 Jamaicans going head to head in keen battle for their respective teams? Have Ja ever beaten the USA at any level? Has Ja ever won more than one game in Central America?
I can go on and on.
What is the point?
T&T is a pedigree football nation in CONCACAF.
Ja is very good as well.
But dont come here on this site being insecure about it because of recent results and trends.
T&T has been a regional CONCACAF powerhouse since the 70's. We sent Port of Spain club teams that beat Ja national teams in decades gone by (eg Maple).
I will not even talk about 1973 WC Qualification to Germany.
Defense Force club team of T&T has even won the CONCACAF club championships already (sometime in the 1980's).
When Ja was being mauled 5-1 or 5-1 by the US in 1989 in prelim WC qualifiers, TT was holding the US to 1-1 draw in LA.
So dont dont come here on this site trying to belittle Trinidad and Tobago's football pedigree.
We have a much richer and successful tradition of football than you.
Even Haiti has, and Cuba too.
Take away 1995-1999 from Ja's football history, what do you have to talk about?
I am not belittling you, its just from the perspective of a Trini who is getting fed up of the recent stupid arguments between T&T and Ja footballl.
It wrenks of insecurity and jealosy on Ja's part.
Get over it, wheel and come again for 2010, I am sure Ja will do well and be more competitive.
One day for you, one day for me, that is how it goes, it just so happens to be T&T's day now.
To the TT posters who bring up the crime and politics and thing, well as much as allyuh could say what allyuh want, some of allyuh no better than some of the insecure Jamaicans. With people like allyuh in both countries, no wonder it does have so much hate and bitterness.
Lets keep it to football nah.
Big up to Ja for the sportsmax/fox soccer channel initiative.
To be honest, we have nutten like Sportsmax in T&T, thats how much Ja follow their sports, each and every sport. Imagine a Trini channel that brings 99% coverage of all T&T teams in all sports. Wow, only a dream.
Why cant we just focus on the positives from each other and work with that?
Big up T&T and Ja.
Shouldn't this be a complaint to the moderators.
Nice how you found a response to the most sensible post on this topic that couldn't go past 10 words and brought nothing whatsoever to the "debate" ::)
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Trini I wouldn't bother to quote your post but you hit the nail right on the head. Those facts have more weight than a head-to-head record with Jamaica that still shows a marginal superiority for T&T. JA can boast of being ahead of us in the past few years but this is our time now. We are back where we are supposed to be- the best in Caribbean and able to challenge for a spot in World Cups.
Challenge for which WORLD CUP exactly?
I said challenge for a spot at world Cups. Let me break it down for you. I was implying that we have good chance at qualifying for World Cup competitions.
Well then. It's just a matter of waiting and watching to see who will grab a 2010 World Cup berth. The reality is only 1 Caribbean side can make the World Cup. AND I DON'T REALLY SEE T&T making it to South Africa as long as Jamaica is in the final round.
English is a funny language. In case you are not aware there are several different World Cup competitions. People with vision see beyond 2010, they also see 2007 2008, 2009, 2011, and also 2014 etc etc. Or is it only the jamaican senior team that plays football?
Until this present JFF administration can prove themselves. I am taking baby steps. So I am breaking things down with the U-17 & U-20 World Cup Qualifiers, the 2007 Digicel Cup/Gold Cup Qualifiers and the 2007 Women's World Cup in China. All of which both Jamaica and T&T are involved. l
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Ok, enough is enough.
There are few Trinis on the site that rate Ja as much as me over the years, I give props where props is due.
But the fact of the matter is that all tis T&T-Ja debate is getting a alittle stale now.
You all sound like a bunch of 9 year olds crying for attention.
These debates have been going on ever since the boards were formed about 8 years ago, and i guess it will always keep going on.
The players change, the stupid arguments contine.
RF is perhaps the longest standing member of this rivalry.
To all the Jamaicans, this is a Trinidad football site.
It says alot that you all have to come onto our site and debate that ja is better than Trinidad.
Right now, there are no Trinis who do that on the RBZ site.
That says a lot.
Are you that insecure?
Does it hurt that bad that T&T made the WC, got the world's attention and Ja stayed at home and got embarassed in a couple internationals?
Does it hurt that bad that TT U-16 just whipped you, after you all promised such a beating for T&T?
Let it go.
It is undisputed that TT are presently the kings of football in the Caribbean, by virtue of the WC. This was something that many Trinis online had to endure hearing Ja boast about for years, and that T&T could never make a WC, no matter how much Caribbean Cups we won. Now we have a WC appearance just like u, we have won like 3 times more caribbean Cups than you, we beating you at youth football, we still have the history of players playing at the top clubs in the best competitions.
Tell me...Has a Ja player ever played in the European Cup? Has a Ja player ever played in the Champions League? Has a Ja player ever been TOP SCORER in the Champions League? Has a Ja player even be joint top scorer in the Premiership? Has Ja player ever been top MLS scorer for 2 consecutive seasons? Has a Ja player ever been Scottish Player of the year? Has a Ja player even won player of the month in England? Has there ever been a premiership game you see 2 Jamaicans going head to head in keen battle for their respective teams? Have Ja ever beaten the USA at any level? Has Ja ever won more than one game in Central America?
I can go on and on.
What is the point?
T&T is a pedigree football nation in CONCACAF.
Ja is very good as well.
But dont come here on this site being insecure about it because of recent results and trends.
T&T has been a regional CONCACAF powerhouse since the 70's. We sent Port of Spain club teams that beat Ja national teams in decades gone by (eg Maple).
I will not even talk about 1973 WC Qualification to Germany.
Defense Force club team of T&T has even won the CONCACAF club championships already (sometime in the 1980's).
When Ja was being mauled 5-1 or 5-1 by the US in 1989 in prelim WC qualifiers, TT was holding the US to 1-1 draw in LA.
So dont dont come here on this site trying to belittle Trinidad and Tobago's football pedigree.
We have a much richer and successful tradition of football than you.
Even Haiti has, and Cuba too.
Take away 1995-1999 from Ja's football history, what do you have to talk about?
I am not belittling you, its just from the perspective of a Trini who is getting fed up of the recent stupid arguments between T&T and Ja footballl.
It wrenks of insecurity and jealosy on Ja's part.
Get over it, wheel and come again for 2010, I am sure Ja will do well and be more competitive.
One day for you, one day for me, that is how it goes, it just so happens to be T&T's day now.
To the TT posters who bring up the crime and politics and thing, well as much as allyuh could say what allyuh want, some of allyuh no better than some of the insecure Jamaicans. With people like allyuh in both countries, no wonder it does have so much hate and bitterness.
Lets keep it to football nah.
Big up to Ja for the sportsmax/fox soccer channel initiative.
To be honest, we have nutten like Sportsmax in T&T, thats how much Ja follow their sports, each and every sport. Imagine a Trini channel that brings 99% coverage of all T&T teams in all sports. Wow, only a dream.
Why cant we just focus on the positives from each other and work with that?
Big up T&T and Ja.
Shouldn't this be a complaint to the moderators.
Nice how you found a response to the most sensible post on this topic that couldn't go past 10 words and brought nothing whatsoever to the "debate" ::)
Why! Should I have read after the fourth paragraph. Maybe the smart thing would have been to put it for the last paragraph.