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Sports => Football => Topic started by: SUPA on September 11, 2006, 03:37:08 PM
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Ah wanted tuh get some info on the above player, ah know there are people here dat saw the man play in person, or on television, and would be able tuh share some true facts about Archibald as ah player. De reason for this is because, today ah bounce up ah Haitian padnah ah mine ah didn't see fuh years. We started ah lil fotball talk, he talk about how de T&T team did make the Caribbean proud and ah was telling him about de forum and thing. However, this breddah was at de the game dat everybody say de referee thief we, disqualify we goals and send Haiti tuh de world cup in 1974. He said all dem goals was really off side.
The part ah find hard tuh believe, is dat he was real dogging out Archibald, he say de man would get 8 goal scoring chances, be off side fuh 6 and score 2 dat de lines man didn't see and raise de flag. He said not only de Haiti game, but Mexico and other games de man does only score off side goals. Ah doh know much about him, more than what ah read here and what meh dad told me. As ah Trini ah does represent, and defend at all times, but dis time ah was just listening, cuz ah really doh know much on de player. People out dey cud all yuh verify the stuff dat was said about Archibald.
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Yuh have meh confused. Who yuh talking bout, Warren Archibald or Steve David?
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Yuh have meh confused. Who yuh talking bout, Warren Archibald or Steve David?
Yeh tall man, thanks, ah just modify de thread, it is definitely Archibald, so it have tuh be Warren as de first name. I apologise folks, ah did mixed up de man first name, and I previously had it as Steve, but of course de gentleman name is Warren Archibald. Bless.
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That man was everything and anything,a rare gem destined to mesmerize once you gazed at it,picture a man with the speed and grace of a cheetah,and there he is on the field of play going after a ball you almost feel yourself in motion with him,your snowcone is melting because you don't want to take your eyes off or miss a beat.
Cheers to warren archibald he amongst many set the pace for latapy,yorke,stern,and those to come..................
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That man was everything and anything,a rare gem destined to mesmerize once you gazed at it,picture a man with the speed and grace of a cheetah,and there he is on the field of play going after a ball you almost feel yourself in motion with him,your snowcone is melting because you don't want to take your eyes off or miss a beat.
Cheers to warren archibald he amongst many set the pace for latapy,yorke,stern,and those to come..................
Thanks dey Saga, nice tuh read something real positive about de breddah. :beermug:
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That man was everything and anything,a rare gem destined to mesmerize once you gazed at it,picture a man with the speed and grace of a cheetah,and there he is on the field of play going after a ball you almost feel yourself in motion with him,your snowcone is melting because you don't want to take your eyes off or miss a beat.
Cheers to warren archibald he amongst many set the pace for latapy,yorke,stern,and those to come..................
Well said Saga,you could not discribe the man better,i've had the opportunity to play against him and is one of the players i picked up a lot from,when ever we talk about T&T Football Archie's name will always come up.I wonder if that guy know it have a lot of Haitian's that carry his name since after that infamous game.
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Always seems to be too late to recognise greatness.... anyone have any word on ah latapy testimonial before he ang up he boots ? ...or are we going to meet here twenty years later ruing the lost opportunity ?
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Every single thing your friend said about Archibald is true. In Haiti, we believe that he was the greatest football player from Trinidad. He also distinguished himself in what was back then the US major league. I was quite surprised to find out that the present trini generation knows almost nothing about the guy.
Archibald was pretty much like Hugo Sanchez, one who would always find a way to score (even with his hands!). We even had a carnival song that said : 'Archibald, look what you did to Mexico / Mexicans will stop bragging...'
I am glad your friend told you how Haitians in general feel about that great former footballer and how the TnT national team is viewed in Haiti.
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That man was everything and anything,a rare gem destined to mesmerize once you gazed at it,picture a man with the speed and grace of a cheetah,and there he is on the field of play going after a ball you almost feel yourself in motion with him,your snowcone is melting because you don't want to take your eyes off or miss a beat.
Cheers to warren archibald he amongst many set the pace for latapy,yorke,stern,and those to come..................
Well said Saga,you could not discribe the man better,i've had the opportunity to play against him and is one of the players i picked up a lot from,when ever we talk about T&T Football Archie's name will always come up.I wonder if that guy know it have a lot of Haitian's that carry his name since after that infamous game.
Not wanting to take away from archie's glory but you must recall that Gally cummings was voted best player in haiti and was our shining light in that Concacaf tounament in george 5th Park when Phillipe vorbe and de haitians ran amock.
Gally is often underated in my book both as player and as coach.
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Every single thing your friend said about Archibald is true. In Haiti, we believe that he was the greatest football player from Trinidad. He also distinguished himself in what was back then the US major league. I was quite surprised to find out that the present trini generation knows almost nothing about the guy.
Archibald was pretty much like Hugo Sanchez, one who would always find a way to score (even with his hands!). We even had a carnival song that said : 'Archibald, look what you did to Mexico / Mexicans will stop bragging...'
I am glad your friend told you how Haitians in general feel about that great former footballer and how the TnT national team is viewed in Haiti.
Toussaint, thanks fuh de reply, like ah said, ah doh know much about Archibald, so all ah cud do is be humble, and read all yuh opinion. Meh padnah did mention tuh meh about de song doh, yuh right about dat. Bless.
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i play with his brothers team and from what i have heard he was everythign sga pinto described
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Every single thing your friend said about Archibald is true. In Haiti, we believe that he was the greatest football player from Trinidad. He also distinguished himself in what was back then the US major league. I was quite surprised to find out that the present trini generation knows almost nothing about the guy.
Archibald was pretty much like Hugo Sanchez, one who would always find a way to score (even with his hands!). We even had a carnival song that said : 'Archibald, look what you did to Mexico / Mexicans will stop bragging...'
I am glad your friend told you how Haitians in general feel about that great former footballer and how the TnT national team is viewed in Haiti.
Well Toussaint, from de replies ah get so far, wid no disrespect , it seems is only de Haitian people have negative things tuh say about de man. De T&T people so far strongly supports dey hero. Bless.
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Supa,probable Archibald was too fast for yuh Haitian pardna,so he taught he was off side.Archibald is probable the quickest player I see with the ball from Trinidad.One thing I learnt from him is that if your running with the ball close to yuh feet with his speed,you'll have to foul to take dat ball away.The last FIFA President Havelouge or whatever his name was said Archibald was the closest thing to a Brazilian.
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Supa,probable Archibald was too fast for yuh Haitian pardna,so he taught he was off side.Archibald is probable the quickest player I see with the ball from Trinidad.One thing I learnt from him is that if your running with the ball close to yuh feet with his speed,you'll have to foul to take dat ball away.The last FIFA President Havelouge or whatever his name was said Archibald was the closest thing to a Brazilian.
Royal, respect star, ah like yuh report on de man, yuh quote Havelange, dat is big right dey. Bless.
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Archie was a big time player who used to score goals on ANY defence.Archie not only had speed he but cudda control and dribble and cudda destroy any defence,Now I never see him in colledge but I see him play for TnT and saw de Haiti game and is not just that game that show me Archie is ah boss, he cudda tear apart any side.
But ah want yuh to ask yuh padnah bout Haiti's big time player, Phillipe Vorbe, ask him how much time he touch de ball in that 73 game,(doh geh meh wrong Vorbe was very good also but was outshone be Archie in that game ).Ask him what happen to the linesman and Referee careers after the game,since he claims all de goals were offside.Leh mey put it to this way SUPA, TnT cudda score 10 goal that day we wudda still lose 2-1...It was de most blatant robbery ever in Concacaf history or in de world,that I ever see.
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That man was everything and anything,a rare gem destined to mesmerize once you gazed at it,picture a man with the speed and grace of a cheetah,and there he is on the field of play going after a ball you almost feel yourself in motion with him,your snowcone is melting because you don't want to take your eyes off or miss a beat.
Cheers to warren archibald he amongst many set the pace for latapy,yorke,stern,and those to come..................
Well said Saga,you could not discribe the man better,i've had the opportunity to play against him and is one of the players i picked up a lot from,when ever we talk about T&T Football Archie's name will always come up.I wonder if that guy know it have a lot of Haitian's that carry his name since after that infamous game.
Not wanting to take away from archie's glory but you must recall that Gally cummings was voted best player in haiti and was our shining light in that Concacaf tounament in george 5th Park when Phillipe vorbe and de haitians ran amock. Gally is often underated in my book both as player and as coach.
Yes that was in Pompehi when de Vorbe and de Haitians run'' ah mock'' but we return de favor in ah big time way and totally ouplayed demin Haiti in 73,even Vorbe cuddn't take de jammin and walk off de field before de game done.
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Archie was a big time player who used to score goals on ANY defence.Archie not only had speed he but cudda control and dribble and cudda destroy any defence,Now I never see him in colledge but I see him play for TnT and saw de Haiti game and is not just that game that show me Archie is ah boss, he cudda tear apart any side. But ah want yuh to ask yuh padnah bout Haiti's big time player, Phillipe Vorbe, ask him how much time he touch de ball in that 73 game,(doh geh meh wrong Vorbe was very good also but was outshone be Archie in that game ).Ask him what happen to the linesman and Referee careers after the game,since he claims all de goals were offside.Leh mey put it to this way SUPA, TnT cudda score 10 goal that day we wudda still lose 2-1...It was de most blatant robbery ever in Concacaf history or in de world,that I ever see.
Berris you SEE de Haiti game??
Were you there or on video?
VB
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I'm talkiing to some influential folks back home concerning archival film on warren archibald,it might be possible to contact him directly on this issue,it's a pity that back then they never saw the historical value of filming most games that showcased the elite players of that era,but I was told by a friend of mine who happens to be close to archibald that in those days it was expensive to even own a camera far less one that could film movies or documentaries.
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Jus google archie an see what pops up.
Archie was a big big player to me. Ah was probably 10 when ah first see him play, yuh know as a youthman at that age everything does look bigger than it really was ?
Well the last time ah saw him live on a field was in late 74' an the man was still de big big player . Speed, poise , lots of brain a world class player.
In my mind if that team of 73' made it to the world cup they would reached past the first rounds and given many big teams a run for dey money.
Is sad how things does work out I really believe if we had make it that year Trinidad would have been the powerhouse in Concacaf and no t Mexico
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Its been 33 years since that game and Haitians still remember his name. Doesn't that by itself say something about the man? As a Haitian bredrin at my job 2 years ago said, "Heeee was deee BESSSSSST!!!!!!!!
Watch de Ride
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Is Warren Archibald still alive.... just curious
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Yes he is and if I'm not mistaken he has a place somewhere in south florida,just to add I also have a couple haitian friends one in particular who said to me,the greatest footballer he ever see is warren archibald,this haitian could'nt stop talking about archibald it was almost obscene..
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Is Warren Archibald still alive.... just curious
Yes, he is alive and well. Ah lime wit him in Germany. He does talk passionately about football.
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2237&g2_GALLERYSID=0ca1c1a776ffddc3ed7aefc1c3264132)
In Dusseldorf airport on de way back to T&T
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2809&g2_GALLERYSID=0ca1c1a776ffddc3ed7aefc1c3264132)
In Kaiserlautern before de game against Paraguay
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2824&g2_GALLERYSID=0ca1c1a776ffddc3ed7aefc1c3264132)
In Kaiserlautern before de game against Paraguay. Posing with Philbert Jones (Strike Squad) and some members from the 73 Squad (Selris Figaro, Steve David, Tony Douglas etc.)
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Archie was a big time player who used to score goals on ANY defence.Archie not only had speed he but cudda control and dribble and cudda destroy any defence,Now I never see him in colledge but I see him play for TnT and saw de Haiti game and is not just that game that show me Archie is ah boss, he cudda tear apart any side. But ah want yuh to ask yuh padnah bout Haiti's big time player, Phillipe Vorbe, ask him how much time he touch de ball in that 73 game,(doh geh meh wrong Vorbe was very good also but was outshone be Archie in that game ).Ask him what happen to the linesman and Referee careers after the game,since he claims all de goals were offside.Leh mey put it to this way SUPA, TnT cudda score 10 goal that day we wudda still lose 2-1...It was de most blatant robbery ever in Concacaf history or in de world,that I ever see.
Berris you SEE de Haiti game??
Were you there or on video?
VB
VB it was long time ago, yuh know how much smoke ah hah tuh clear tuh remember exactly ;D ..not too sure if it was live or a replay but it was on TTT .... I din know bout video in dem days ;D
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Archie was a big time player who used to score goals on ANY defence.Archie not only had speed he but cudda control and dribble and cudda destroy any defence,Now I never see him in colledge but I see him play for TnT and saw de Haiti game and is not just that game that show me Archie is ah boss, he cudda tear apart any side. But ah want yuh to ask yuh padnah bout Haiti's big time player, Phillipe Vorbe, ask him how much time he touch de ball in that 73 game,(doh geh meh wrong Vorbe was very good also but was outshone be Archie in that game ).Ask him what happen to the linesman and Referee careers after the game,since he claims all de goals were offside.Leh mey put it to this way SUPA, TnT cudda score 10 goal that day we wudda still lose 2-1...It was de most blatant robbery ever in Concacaf history or in de world,that I ever see.
Berris you SEE de Haiti game??
Were you there or on video?
VB
VB it was long time ago, yuh know how much smoke ah hah tuh clear tuh remember exactly ;D ..not too sure if it was live or a replay but it was on TTT .... I din know bout video in dem days ;D
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Hmmmmm.....So den it's possible dey have ah recording of dem games in TnT? Woulda LOVE to see that tournament, and dat Haiti game in particular.
About 20 years ago, the first Haitian I talk to in Miami, when he hear I from Trini, the first thing dah man say is if "you like football?"...The second thing was "Warren Archibald is the best player I ever see"..No joke. Then he went on to say that Archibald is a legend in Haiti. I was totally surprised. I thought dem thing only use to happen to Brazilians. So Apparently, Archie left a BIG impression.
Or else is de same Haitian everybody talking to.
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The men that officiated that game were actually BANNED FOR LIFE from FIFA from officiating any FIFA-sanctioned games. Ask yuh Hatian padnah why that is. Archie is also a friend of mine, despite our major generational differences and I know for a fact that he was practically worshipped by any and every body in the Caribbean and beyond that ever saw him play.......especially the people of Haiti!! He was a big time player in the NASL (I once had the newspaper article that HE gave me) and he is a very humble and friendly person who does still appreciate the modern game and the modern player. I hung out with him for a minute at the England game and even though he may own a home in Florida somewhere, He currently lives and works in Pennsylvania. (Unless that has changed since I last spoke to him)
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Is Warren Archibald still alive.... just curious
Yes, he is alive and well. Ah lime wit him in Germany. He does talk passionately about football.
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2237&g2_GALLERYSID=0ca1c1a776ffddc3ed7aefc1c3264132)
In Dusseldorf airport on de way back to T&T
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2809&g2_GALLERYSID=0ca1c1a776ffddc3ed7aefc1c3264132)
In Kaiserlautern before de game against Paraguay
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2824&g2_GALLERYSID=0ca1c1a776ffddc3ed7aefc1c3264132)
In Kaiserlautern before de game against Paraguay. Posing with Philbert Jones (Strike Squad) and some members from the 73 Squad (Selris Figaro, Steve David, Tony Douglas etc.)
Thanks Tallman, wey we go do without yuh input on de forum boi. Nice pics meh breddah, I'm very much pleased to see a picture of Mr Archibald, cuz ah would ah past one of our soocer heroes straight, or sit right next tuh him and not know dat it is him. In de pictures ah make out Philbert, somebody please tell meh which one is Steve David ?
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Thanks Tallman, wey we go do without yuh input on de forum boi. Nice pics meh breddah, I'm very much pleased to see a picture of Mr Archibald, cuz ah would ah past one of our soocer heroes straight, or sit right next tuh him and not know dat it is him. In de pictures ah make out Philbert, somebody please tell meh which one is Steve David ?
Steve David is partially hidden (de baldhead man behind Philbert).
Yuh could see him better here:
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2281&g2_GALLERYSID=05111c021f4f82083e65964d99d1bcb9)
Steve David, Clayton Morris and Rickie Nelson
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2278&g2_GALLERYSID=05111c021f4f82083e65964d99d1bcb9)
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Thanks Tallman, wey we go do without yuh input on de forum boi. Nice pics meh breddah, I'm very much pleased to see a picture of Mr Archibald, cuz ah would ah past one of our soocer heroes straight, or sit right next tuh him and not know dat it is him. In de pictures ah make out Philbert, somebody please tell meh which one is Steve David ?
Steve David is partially hidden (de baldhead man behind Philbert).
Yuh could see him better here:
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2281&g2_GALLERYSID=05111c021f4f82083e65964d99d1bcb9)
Steve David, Clayton Morris and Rickie Nelson
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2278&g2_GALLERYSID=05111c021f4f82083e65964d99d1bcb9)
Tallman,thanks again. Bless.
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Still think these are some of the greatest footballers T&T ever produced.
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Every single thing your friend said about Archibald is true. In Haiti, we believe that he was the greatest football player from Trinidad. He also distinguished himself in what was back then the US major league. I was quite surprised to find out that the present trini generation knows almost nothing about the guy.
Archibald was pretty much like Hugo Sanchez, one who would always find a way to score (even with his hands!). We even had a carnival song that said : 'Archibald, look what you did to Mexico / Mexicans will stop bragging...'
I am glad your friend told you how Haitians in general feel about that great former footballer and how the TnT national team is viewed in Haiti.
SUPA, as a Pointman ;D and die hard Civic Centre fan and who has seen Warren 'Laga" Archibald play I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt that he was absolutely FANTASTIC. Incredible ball control and vision...just fantastic. I even have Haitian pardners who sing his praises. Ah even bounce up ah old man from Honduras who after he find out ah from Trini couldn't talking about Archie. De man was boss!!!
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Is Warren Archibald still alive.... just curious
Yes, he is alive and well. Ah lime wit him in Germany. He does talk passionately about football.
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2237&g2_GALLERYSID=0ca1c1a776ffddc3ed7aefc1c3264132)
In Dusseldorf airport on de way back to T&T
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2809&g2_GALLERYSID=0ca1c1a776ffddc3ed7aefc1c3264132)
In Kaiserlautern before de game against Paraguay
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2824&g2_GALLERYSID=0ca1c1a776ffddc3ed7aefc1c3264132)
In Kaiserlautern before de game against Paraguay. Posing with Philbert Jones (Strike Squad) and some members from the 73 Squad (Selris Figaro, Steve David, Tony Douglas etc.)
Tallman de man holding the flag is Wilfred" bound to score" Cave.
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Is Warren Archibald still alive.... just curious
;D very much alive ;D Archie cyar dead ;)
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Every single thing your friend said about Archibald is true. In Haiti, we believe that he was the greatest football player from Trinidad. He also distinguished himself in what was back then the US major league. I was quite surprised to find out that the present trini generation knows almost nothing about the guy.
Archibald was pretty much like Hugo Sanchez, one who would always find a way to score (even with his hands!). We even had a carnival song that said : 'Archibald, look what you did to Mexico / Mexicans will stop bragging...'
I am glad your friend told you how Haitians in general feel about that great former footballer and how the TnT national team is viewed in Haiti.
SUPA, as a Pointman ;D and die hard Civic Centre fan and who has seen Warren 'Laga" Archibald play I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt that he was absolutely FANTASTIC. Incredible ball control and vision...just fantastic. I even have Haitian pardners who sing his praises. Ah even bounce up ah old man from Honduras who after he find out ah from Trini couldn't talking about Archie. De man was boss!!!
Pointman, wid de opportunities available tuh dis generation of T&T players, like scouts etc, yuh think Archibald wid ah make T&T proud by playing in ah top league, like EPL and La Liga?
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Every single thing your friend said about Archibald is true. In Haiti, we believe that he was the greatest football player from Trinidad. He also distinguished himself in what was back then the US major league. I was quite surprised to find out that the present trini generation knows almost nothing about the guy.
Archibald was pretty much like Hugo Sanchez, one who would always find a way to score (even with his hands!). We even had a carnival song that said : 'Archibald, look what you did to Mexico / Mexicans will stop bragging...'
I am glad your friend told you how Haitians in general feel about that great former footballer and how the TnT national team is viewed in Haiti.
SUPA, as a Pointman ;D and die hard Civic Centre fan and who has seen Warren 'Laga" Archibald play I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt that he was absolutely FANTASTIC. Incredible ball control and vision...just fantastic. I even have Haitian pardners who sing his praises. Ah even bounce up ah old man from Honduras who after he find out ah from Trini couldn't talking about Archie. De man was boss!!!
Pointman, wid de opportunities available tuh dis generation of T&T players, like scouts etc, yuh think Archibald wid ah make T&T proud by playing in ah top league, like EPL and La Liga?
Absolutely!! he did play professionally( I believe here in the US...calling Tallman). He had as much skill if not more than our current players and he had incredible pace with the ball on his feet. The EPL wouldna know what to do with him. He didn't play with his back to the goal, he would run right at defenders and leave dem out. Let Coops enlightening yuh some more. Coops actually played against him.
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Absolutely!! he did play professionally( I believe here in the US...calling Tallman). He had as much skill if not more than our current players and he had incredible pace with the ball on his feet. The EPL wouldna know what to do with him. He didn't play with his back to the goal, he would run right at defenders and leave dem out. Let Coops enlightening yuh some more. Coops actually played against him.
Yes, he played in de NASL for 9 seasons with Rochester Lancers, Miami Toros, Washington Darts and New York Generals. He was the MVP in de NASL in 1973 and made the All-League First team that year. He (along with Steve David) is also listed as an honourable mention for the All Time NASL MVP. In 1970, 1971 and 1974 he made the NASL All-League Second teams.
He is 25th (Leroy DeLeon is number 26) on the NASL's top all-time goalscorers list with 58 goals in 162 games. He is 48th on the NASL's top all-time assist leaders with 39 assists.
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Absolutely!! he did play professionally( I believe here in the US...calling Tallman). He had as much skill if not more than our current players and he had incredible pace with the ball on his feet. The EPL wouldna know what to do with him. He didn't play with his back to the goal, he would run right at defenders and leave dem out. Let Coops enlightening yuh some more. Coops actually played against him.
Yes, he played in de NASL for 9 seasons with Rochester Lancers, Miami Toros, Washington Darts and New York Generals. He was the MVP in de NASL in 1973 and made the All-League First team that year. He (along with Steve David) is also listed as an honourable mention for the All Time NASL MVP. In 1970, 1971 and 1974 he made the NASL All-League Second teams.
He is 25th (Leroy DeLeon is number 26) on the NASL's top all-time goalscorers list with 58 goals in 162 games. He is 48th on the NASL's top all-time assist leaders with 39 assists.
Thank you Tallman
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Absolutely!! he did play professionally( I believe here in the US...calling Tallman). He had as much skill if not more than our current players and he had incredible pace with the ball on his feet. The EPL wouldna know what to do with him. He didn't play with his back to the goal, he would run right at defenders and leave dem out. Let Coops enlightening yuh some more. Coops actually played against him.
Yes, he played in de NASL for 9 seasons with Rochester Lancers, Miami Toros, Washington Darts and New York Generals. He was the MVP in de NASL in 1973 and made the All-League First team that year. He (along with Steve David) is also listed as an honourable mention for the All Time NASL MVP. In 1970, 1971 and 1974 he made the NASL All-League Second teams.
He is 25th (Leroy DeLeon is number 26) on the NASL's top all-time goalscorers list with 58 goals in 162 games. He is 48th on the NASL's top all-time assist leaders with 39 assists.
Thank you Tallman
I forgot to add that he also played in Mexico (Club San Luis) and Haiti (Victory).
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Archibald,Gally, de Leon,Steve David, Rondon and Lincoln all could have played in top leagues in Europe if given the opportunity. Look at the players they were rubbing shoulders with in the 70's on NASL all-star teams.
Neesken's, Beckenbauer,Carlos Alberto,George Best, Pele etc. True enough these players were semi retired but our players were around the same age also and producing on the field . :beermug:
http://home.att.net/~nasl/all-stars.htm
http://home.att.net/~nasl/leaders.htm
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Archibald,Gally, de Leon,Steve David, Rondon and Lincoln all could have played in top leagues in Europe if given the opportunity. Look at the players they were rubbing shoulders with in the 70's on NASL all-star teams.
Neesken's, Beckenbauer,Carlos Alberto,George Best, Pele etc. True enough these players were semi retired but our players were around the same age also and producing on the field . :beermug:
http://home.att.net/~nasl/all-stars.htm
... :applause: :applause: :applause: FUH REAL !!!
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Thanks to everybody for all de information on Mr Archibald, I learnt a lot from you all about him. If only ah cud ah see ah tape on him, dat would really be great. Bless.
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Absolutely!! he did play professionally( I believe here in the US...calling Tallman). He had as much skill if not more than our current players and he had incredible pace with the ball on his feet. The EPL wouldna know what to do with him. He didn't play with his back to the goal, he would run right at defenders and leave dem out. Let Coops enlightening yuh some more. Coops actually played against him.
Yes, he played in de NASL for 9 seasons with Rochester Lancers, Miami Toros, Washington Darts and New York Generals. He was the MVP in de NASL in 1973 and made the All-League First team that year. He (along with Steve David) is also listed as an honourable mention for the All Time NASL MVP. In 1970, 1971 and 1974 he made the NASL All-League Second teams.
He is 25th (Leroy DeLeon is number 26) on the NASL's top all-time goalscorers list with 58 goals in 162 games. He is 48th on the NASL's top all-time assist leaders with 39 assists.
Thank you Tallman
I forgot to add that he also played in Mexico (Club San Luis) and Haiti (Victory).
Oops! I was going to keep that piece of info to myself. Growing up as a kid, I saw the guy scored several times against my favorite team, Violette AC. The guy was just as popular as Emmanuel Sanon in Haiti and he was not considered a foreigner.
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Archibald with the Toros at 0:15 (vs Rowdies in 1975)
http://www.youtube.com/v/Qf_m2hNJf-k
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Archibald with the Toros at 0:15 (vs Rowdies in 1975)
I swear Facenda would make even Chess sound like an epic sporting spectacle.
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I feel e-man wukkin in ah CIA field office oui
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That was the Era - Steve David - Warren Archibald -dont forget Leroy Deleon
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Every single thing your friend said about Archibald is true. In Haiti, we believe that he was the greatest football player from Trinidad. He also distinguished himself in what was back then the US major league. I was quite surprised to find out that the present trini generation knows almost nothing about the guy.
Archibald was pretty much like Hugo Sanchez, one who would always find a way to score (even with his hands!). We even had a carnival song that said : 'Archibald, look what you did to Mexico / Mexicans will stop bragging...'
I am glad your friend told you how Haitians in general feel about that great former footballer and how the TnT national team is viewed in Haiti.
Can't really blame the fans now a days for not knowing anything about Archibald and company if they themselves couldn't careless.
I called this guy no less that 10 times trying to link up with him, I didn't even get a call back.
They have to understand that this site is not to benefit us here financially, but its an encyclopedia for T&T football where everyone can enjoy for free for generations to come.
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This may not be the best post for this is just that since it have so much Point men on here i'll give it a try,does anyone know anything about Keith Douglas,this guy played with Defence Force one year and was such an influence in my career as a player,he left DF and i never heard about him again just he still living in Point,if anyone have any contacts for him please PM me,ph,email,address etc it will be greatly apprecaited.
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Archibald with the Toros at 0:15 (vs Rowdies in 1975)
http://www.youtube.com/v/Qf_m2hNJf-k
BTW that #19 is Selris Figaro at 1:14 and 1:25
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Great player was Warren Archibald and is true...Haitains think very highly of him.
Interesting that while Latas and Leonson are considered the best T&T footballers by this jamaican generation, Tony Douglas was considered the best ever by many yardies of the previous generation.
Anybody with thoughts on Tony Douglas?
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Great player was Warren Archibald and is true...Haitains think very highly of him.
Interesting that while Latas and Leonson are considered the best T&T footballers by this jamaican generation, Tony Douglas was considered the best ever by many yardies of the previous generation.
Anybody with thoughts on Tony Douglas?
who de fck is tony douglas?
i feeling like a football baby asking this
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Great player was Warren Archibald and is true...Haitains think very highly of him.
Interesting that while Latas and Leonson are considered the best T&T footballers by this jamaican generation, Tony Douglas was considered the best ever by many yardies of the previous generation.
Anybody with thoughts on Tony Douglas?
who de fck is tony douglas?
i feeling like a football baby asking this
http://www.ttfootballhistory.com/taxonomy/term/197
St. Benedict's, PFCC, LA Aztecs, SJ Earthquakes, Utah Golden Spikers, California Sunshine
(http://nasljerseys.com/images/Aztecs/Aztecs%2074%20Tony%20Douglas%20Head_small.jpg)
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Great player was Warren Archibald and is true...Haitains think very highly of him.
Interesting that while Latas and Leonson are considered the best T&T footballers by this jamaican generation, Tony Douglas was considered the best ever by many yardies of the previous generation.
Anybody with thoughts on Tony Douglas?
who de fck is tony douglas?
i feeling like a football baby asking this
If I not mistaken, he was a member of that T&T 73 team as well.
De jamaicans used to call him "trini" Douglas
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Great player was Warren Archibald and is true...Haitains think very highly of him.
Interesting that while Latas and Leonson are considered the best T&T footballers by this jamaican generation, Tony Douglas was considered the best ever by many yardies of the previous generation.
Anybody with thoughts on Tony Douglas?
who de fck is tony douglas?
i feeling like a football baby asking this
Is ah family of ballers. Neville (father), Monty, Tony, Keith...
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Great player was Warren Archibald and is true...Haitains think very highly of him.
Interesting that while Latas and Leonson are considered the best T&T footballers by this jamaican generation, Tony Douglas was considered the best ever by many yardies of the previous generation.
Anybody with thoughts on Tony Douglas?
who de fck is tony douglas?
i feeling like a football baby asking this
If I not mistaken, he was a member of that T&T 73 team as well.
De jamaicans used to call him "trini" Douglas
And in south known as Crapaud ;D
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Great player was Warren Archibald and is true...Haitains think very highly of him.
Interesting that while Latas and Leonson are considered the best T&T footballers by this jamaican generation, Tony Douglas was considered the best ever by many yardies of the previous generation.
Anybody with thoughts on Tony Douglas?
who de fck is tony douglas?
i feeling like a football baby asking this
Breds, you don't have to raise your blood pressure to ask a simple question if you don't know who Tony Douglas is.
I think we Trinis miss out on Tony because from Benedicts he attended a technical school in Jamaica for some years,as a matter of fact Jamaicans knew him more than us,i never played against Tony but the little i saw of him he was the workhorse Midfielder on that team that went to Haiti (ball winner).
Don't worry you are not a Football baby,this forum is here to help peeps like you,no question is shytty.
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Daiz a classic reply Coop's. Real classic allrong reply wit' good humour. Yuh real come dong like a smoot' operator dey.
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Great player was Warren Archibald and is true...Haitains think very highly of him.
Interesting that while Latas and Leonson are considered the best T&T footballers by this jamaican generation, Tony Douglas was considered the best ever by many yardies of the previous generation.
Anybody with thoughts on Tony Douglas?
who de fck is tony douglas?
i feeling like a football baby asking this
Breds, you don't have to raise your blood pressure to ask a simple question if you don't know who Tony Douglas is.
I think we Trinis miss out on Tony because from Benedicts he attended a technical school in Jamaica for some years,as a matter of fact Jamaicans knew him more than us,i never played against Tony but the little i saw of him he was the workhorse Midfielder on that team that went to Haiti (ball winner).
Don't worry you are not a Football baby,this forum is here to help peeps like you,no question is shytty.
nah my blood pressure ent raise... i say it more in ah "but wha de hell... how i never hear dat name before" kinda way...
than a "who de fck is ricardo fuller" kinda way
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Great player was Warren Archibald and is true...Haitains think very highly of him.
Interesting that while Latas and Leonson are considered the best T&T footballers by this jamaican generation, Tony Douglas was considered the best ever by many yardies of the previous generation.
Anybody with thoughts on Tony Douglas?
who de fck is tony douglas?
i feeling like a football baby asking this
Breds, you don't have to raise your blood pressure to ask a simple question if you don't know who Tony Douglas is.
I think we Trinis miss out on Tony because from Benedicts he attended a technical school in Jamaica for some years,as a matter of fact Jamaicans knew him more than us,i never played against Tony but the little i saw of him he was the workhorse Midfielder on that team that went to Haiti (ball winner).
Don't worry you are not a Football baby,this forum is here to help peeps like you,no question is shytty.
nah my blood pressure ent raise... i say it more in ah "but wha de hell... how i never hear dat name before" kinda way...
than a "who de fck is ricardo fuller" kinda way
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Great player was Warren Archibald and is true...Haitains think very highly of him.
Interesting that while Latas and Leonson are considered the best T&T footballers by this jamaican generation, Tony Douglas was considered the best ever by many yardies of the previous generation.
Anybody with thoughts on Tony Douglas?
I used to watch them guys play on a regular every Sunday during football season. Tony and the rest of the Douglas family(Monty, Mello) was straight dope!! It was a joy to watch dem mash up dem town teams like Malvern and TESCA and the rest. Then dem fellas became muslims and one setta schism start taking place in the team.
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This may not be the best post for this is just that since it have so much Point men on here i'll give it a try,does anyone know anything about Keith Douglas,this guy played with Defence Force one year and was such an influence in my career as a player,he left DF and i never heard about him again just he still living in Point,if anyone have any contacts for him please PM me,ph,email,address etc it will be greatly apprecaited.
Ah hear de man does live ah rell quiet life. He does mostly be seen going tuh de mosque. Doh relly be on de football scene.
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I met one of his relatives recently and heard he was a big thing in the 1970s.
Please educate me.
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One of the best left wing/forward EVER produced in TT from mid 60s/70s. If there was a best X1 of TT, he will be on that squad as far as I am concerned. Played for St Benedict college in TT, NY Generals, Washington Darts, Miami Toros. I think(almost sure) he was NASL MVP one year. Was in the NASl same time with Delroy Scott, Skill Cole, Phillipe Vorbe,etc.
Short man will great burst of speed and acceleration. Kick well with both feet even though he is right footed. Excellent crosser of the ball from both wings. In my time, when Archie had the ball the crowd would stand because is beat and speed. Total exciting player. Was on the TT team that missed out in 1974 WC qualification in Haiti. From deep south, when that area use to produce players like mangoes on a tree in rainy season.
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Pele consider Warren one of the best wingers he had ever seen and he has seen and played with some of them.
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i agree with Deeks.
Archie was tears once he pick up. The Dilly, Archie, Cave trio, was one of the deadliest in T&T football, pure excitement.
LEGEND!!
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He could have also been the president of Haiti if he wanted to be, they loved him that much there.... :rotfl:
See Link for story on 73 team (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg162330#msg162330)
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A LEGEND.
I saw him do something I have'nt seen since.He over ran a pull stones pass on the goal line just inside the six yard box on the left side of the goal, back heel it onto an unrushing French Guiana player in the Oval and in his natural stride of going after the ball it came off his shine and into the goal.We won 4-1.
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One of the best left wing/forward EVER produced in TT from mid 60s/70s. If there was a best X1 of TT, he will be on that squad as far as I am concerned. Played for St Benedict college in TT, NY Generals, Washington Darts, Miami Toros. I think(almost sure) he was NASL MVP one year. Was in the NASl same time with Delroy Scott, Skill Cole, Phillipe Vorbe,etc.
Short man will great burst of speed and acceleration. Kick well with both feet even though he is right footed. Excellent crosser of the ball from both wings. In my time, when Archie had the ball the crowd would stand because is beat and speed. Total exciting player. Was on the TT team that missed out in 1974 WC qualification in Haiti. From deep south, when that area use to produce players like mangoes on a tree in rainy season.
Deeks ah feel yuh hadda start to comprise dat Best XI. Lets see where some of these players, both old and new stand up overall. :beermug:
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He could have also been the president of Haiti if he wanted to be, they loved him that much there.... :rotfl:
See Link for story on 73 team (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg162330#msg162330)
Sometime in the late eighties I on a street in Miami. Ah Haitian gentleman hear my accent and ask if I from Trinidad. Football talk startup and the first thing the man ask me is about Warren Archibald.
Me...surprised..who? Yuh mean Russel latapy?
Him..shocked...who? No Warren Archibald!
Me..yeah? Never heard of him. (I became a National team ball peong only from the early eighties)
The man then proceeded to tell me all about the greatest footballer he has ever seen (Archibald)and how good our '73 team was and how Haitians love Archibald yadda, yadda, yadda......
That was the first time I had heard of him and the exploits of that team. Since come to find out that all the man was saying was true, and any Haitian I meet since then that into football knows Archibald. Apparently, the '73 team and Warren Archibald in particular seriously impressed in Haiti.
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I too can testify that anytime football talk come up with de Haitian Breddas once dey pass a certain age de fus ting does come out dey mouth is Warren Archie. This especially rings tru when they have seen both Archie and Latas and give Archie as de best ting outta TnT.
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I think someone needs to start a poll/thread for who was T&T's greatest ever midfield general!?
Will be interesting to see where Latas would place in such a poll! ;)
Pity we don't have video footage of all our mid-field generals in action to compare and so the younger ones can really see for themselves so we can get a fair result!
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Midfield General- Carlton Franco and Gally Cummings.
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He could have also been the president of Haiti if he wanted to be, they loved him that much there.... :rotfl:
See Link for story on 73 team (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg162330#msg162330)
Sometime in the late eighties I on a street in Miami. Ah Haitian gentleman hear my accent and ask if I from Trinidad. Football talk startup and the first thing the man ask me is about Warren Archibald.
Me...surprised..who? Yuh mean Russel latapy?
Him..shocked...who? No Warren Archibald!
Me..yeah? Never heard of him. (I became a National team ball peong only from the early eighties)
The man then proceeded to tell me all about the greatest footballer he has ever seen (Archibald)and how good our '73 team was and how Haitians love Archibald yadda, yadda, yadda......
That was the first time I had heard of him and the exploits of that team. Since come to find out that all the man was saying was true, and any Haitian I meet since then that into football knows Archibald. Apparently, the '73 team and Warren Archibald in particular seriously impressed in Haiti.
yeah he's a legend in Haiti too ah dunno how,if its just bcuz of that '73 tournament?
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This is tough, but let me take a stab of an all-time T&T team.
Shaka/Lincoln
T. Delabastide/Tesheira S. Murren Maraldo Rondon/W. Phillips
Yorke Latapy/Deleon Cummings/Franco A. Corneal
S. David W. Archilbald
I did not see Matthew Nunes and Squeaky Hinds. I know many may not agree with Winston Phillips, but his long throw was a major weapon in Haiti.
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I met one of his relatives recently and heard he was a big thing in the 1970s.
Please educate me.
You can read plenty about him here:
http://ttfootballhistory.com/taxonomy/term/196
I just merged an old thread about him, so look above your post as well.
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Hard X1 to pick.
Goal: Lincoln/Shaka
RB: Brian Williams/Russel Texeira
Center Backs: Selwyn Murren, Bert Grell/Ray Moraldo
Left Back: Tyrone DeLabastide/Rondon/Faustin
Mid: D Yorke, Deleon/Latapy, Gally, Gamaldo/Dennis Morgan
Alvin Corneal/Sammy, Steve David/Stern John, Archibald
The reason I put Sammy with Alvin is because Archie can play both right and left side quite effectively.
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Aye allyuh ole men!!! :devil:
Try and remove that disrespectful "/" from by Latas name nuh, wham to allyuh at all!!
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From what I saw back then, Warren Archibald was very easily one of the greatest players to have represented T&T. Tell your Haitian partner if he knew or heard that after the 1973, Haiti World Cup qualifiers, the Haitian Government/football federation wanted to make Archibald a citizen to play for them in the World Cup Finals in, the then, West Germany. I will like to suggest that he gets his facts right.
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From what I saw back then, Warren Archibald was very easily one of the greatest players to have represented T&T. Tell your Haitian partner if he knew or heard that after the 1973, Haiti World Cup qualifiers, the Haitian Government/football federation wanted to make Archibald a citizen to play for them in the World Cup Finals in, the then, West Germany. I will like to suggest that he gets his facts right.
Even if the Haitian gov't gave Archie citizenship, he could not play for them. The haitian team in 73 was one of the best to come out of the Carbbean. The Haitian gov't did sponsor their national team big time, but they abused them, especially when they did not win.
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From what I saw back then, Warren Archibald was very easily one of the greatest players to have represented T&T. Tell your Haitian partner if he knew or heard that after the 1973, Haiti World Cup qualifiers, the Haitian Government/football federation wanted to make Archibald a citizen to play for them in the World Cup Finals in, the then, West Germany. I will like to suggest that he gets his facts right.
Even if the Haitian gov't gave Archie citizenship, he could play for them. The haitian team in 73 was one of the best to come out of the Carbbean. The Haitian gov't did sponsor their national team big time, but they abused them, especially when they did not win.
During that era several Haitians who had newborn babies named them after "Warren Archibald"
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This question just bugging meh, who allyuh see from the other islands and yuh like..pick a caribbean 11( minus TT). For the RF posse, Do the same, minus yard. Is just that ppl showing meh how big the Haitians are giving respect where respect due, i wonder if we respect anybody in we region. I will start with 4, I saw and admire. Plenty more, but names I remember.
Lowe(ja), Mathieu(Haiti), Joseph(Grenada)' Horace Bell(ja), zebra go...ok they starting to pop in meh head...Nah,nah, Archie on the left hands down
Meh mind just roll on worst TT player ah see, Arnim David..not that he didn't have good days, is just I didn't ketch those..sorry Mr. David
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Deeks,
How could I forget Bert Grell? Yes, I would put Bert ahead of Moraldo. Yuh put Dennis Morgan in that company. Sammy would definitely be on the squad too. Coop's, leh we hear your team.
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Archie's popularity with the people of Haiti began way before the 1974 Qualifications. Archie was Haiti's boogey man, back in 1968 (for WC 1970 WCQ) Archie drop a hattrick on Haiti in Haiti leading T&T to a 4-2 win.
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Deeks,
How could I forget Bert Grell? Yes, I would put Bert ahead of Moraldo. Yuh put Dennis Morgan in that company. Sammy would definitely be on the squad too. Coop's, leh we hear your team.
This was real hard. I like Dennis because he was a real runner and tackled a lot. Had good first touch and skills. Remind me of Autis Wheatley a bit. I also saw him play some memorable games for POSFl and North in Geo. V park too. I even had great difficulty to leave out meh pardner Coops who could have fall in the forward line(especially on the right side) with ease. Coops was NOT just a forward, but he used to come back and help the defence quite substantially. Coops with DF was deadly. I used to imagine what if they just added the national team back line(Texeira, Murren,Figaro/Moraldo, Winston Phillips) to the DF front five(Murrel, Len LaForest, Milton Archibald,Ron Laforest, Coops), how they would have played. If I was coach, I would have tried that.
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Deeks,
How could I forget Bert Grell? Yes, I would put Bert ahead of Moraldo. Yuh put Dennis Morgan in that company. Sammy would definitely be on the squad too. Coop's, leh we hear your team.
Trevor,i'm sorry about this one,nameing any national team is always difficult for me,i've seen,delt with and played with so many of our players that i can't imagine leaving out any of them,the guys you and Deeks mentioned are deserving of their places in the history of T&T Football,but when you look at guys like Andy Aleong,Pat Small,Steve Pierre,Jeff Gellineau,Pat Gomez,Bert Neptune,Tony Douglas,Kelvin Berassa,Leroy Spann etc etc ah mean it really hard,people who don't know or have never seen these guys will never know the kind of talent this country produced.
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Deeks,
How could I forget Bert Grell? Yes, I would put Bert ahead of Moraldo. Yuh put Dennis Morgan in that company. Sammy would definitely be on the squad too. Coop's, leh we hear your team.
Trevor,i'm sorry about this one,nameing any national team is always difficult for me,i've seen,delt with and played with so many of our players that i can't imagine leaving out any of them,the guys you and Deeks mentioned are deserving of their places in the history of T&T Football,but when you look at guys like Andy Aleong,Pat Small,Steve Pierre,Jeff Gellineau,Pat Gomez,Bert Neptune,Tony Douglas,Kelvin Berassa,Leroy Spann etc etc ah mean it really hard,people who don't know or have never seen these guys will never know the kind of talent this country produced.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Footballers to bun and sun!
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Coop's,
You called some great names there.
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Also, what about Eddie Aleong and Sedley Joseph? I did not see Allan Joseph, but I heard he was extremely good.
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Also, what about Eddie Aleong and Sedley Joseph? I did not see Allan Joseph, but I heard he was extremely good.
That's what i'm talking about,we could go on and on with good memories of the good old guys/days,one could just imagine where we could be with talent like that today,imagine the modern technology and exposure our players have to foreign major leagues and where our Football is today.
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Ouch
Remember when Teams had to play sometimes 3-4 games during the week...
BDV cup,FA cup , League games...
... still like Eddie Aleong at midfield...cool for so...
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Anyone have photos of the Belmont Colts, Luton Town, Notre Dame, Peterborough,etc teams during the 60's.
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Also looking for a photo of the great race horse Mentone ....
Am I showing my age?
Dtool
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dtool,
Coop’s, Deeks, and I are old, but you are sounding like you are a generation before us.
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Imagine all kind ah name call and no one mention Dilbert Charlo, just ask Carlton Franco about his class.
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Also, what about Eddie Aleong and Sedley Joseph? I did not see Allan Joseph, but I heard he was extremely good.
That's what i'm talking about,we could go on and on with good memories of the good old guys/days,one could just imagine where we could be with talent like that today,imagine the modern technology and exposure our players have to foreign major leagues and where our Football is today.
And who do you think is to blame for where our football is today and how much we have regressed?
Is real hard for me to support them people Coop's, don't know how you could do it!! :'(
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Archie was the greatest! I remember Lloyd Best after he returned from Haiti said there were two memories of people from Trinidad the Haitians had ! Eric williams and our football team and Archie figured prominently in them!
His speed on the field and his antics excited the crowd! Trinidad and Tobago should do something special for these guys before they leave this planet! We should show some appreciation if we want to succeed! Too much bad Karma on the football scene!
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I tried to do something with Warren last year and it was a waste of my time.
Some of these older players need to grow up.
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flex thanks for trying but it should be the TTFF! Especially as I don't think he is in the best of health!
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https://www.youtube.com/v/uzMvthDJ_oA
https://www.youtube.com/v/qlwI3xJVri4
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https://www.youtube.com/v/uzMvthDJ_oA
https://www.youtube.com/v/qlwI3xJVri4
Excellent. Great to know we will have this footage forever
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(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/237724405_1544627342547532_2260731381097331444_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=T7xJclHPBpgAX82x6uT&tn=H1cFaGTuKjKhMs-8&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=99ed036b114df0efe47f1a6409630640&oe=614A46BC)