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Title: Robinho Thread
Post by: andre samuel on July 02, 2005, 06:16:07 PM
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Real Madrid have finally reached agreement with Santos over Robinho, ending any floundering hopes Arsenal had of landing the player.

For months, Real have been tracking the Brazilian starlet and they agreed terms with the player's representatives some months ago.

However, Santos had thus far refused all of Real's offers.

Arsenal made a move last week, but that has seemingly just spurred Real into sealing the move - although Robinho always underlined his intent to move to El Santiago Bernabeu.

Agreement was reached late on Friday at Santos president Marcelo Teixeira's house and Real will pay €25 million for Robinho - although Santos will only receive 60 percent of that, as the player's agent Wagner Ribeiro owns the rest of him.

The last straw for Santos was when Robinho failed to turn up for training on Friday, following his participation at The Confederations Cup in Germany.

Real's sporting director Emilio Butragueno was confirmed his delight at Robinho's impending arrival in the Spanish capital.

"Robinho has been the soccer sensation of the last year," he said.

"Although he is very young, his contribution to Real Madrid can be spectacular. Luxemburgo only took seconds in giving his opinion. Wanderley is enchanted by his arrival."

Madrid will now turn their attentions elsewhere, having already landed Robinho, plus two further South Americans in the shape of Carlos Diogo and Pablo Garcia.

One player still being strongly linked in England and Spain is Liverpool's Steven Gerrard.

It is claimed in both country's media that contract negotiations are not going well - with Spanish sources saying that Gerrard's huge demands are a tactic to engineer a move to Madrid.

It remains to be seen what will happen with Gerrard, but the longer talks ensure without progress - the more speculation about his future there will be.


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Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: Jah Gol on July 02, 2005, 09:06:49 PM
This youth is heading for stardom, wrong team though. Barcelona is the place to be.

Real is in the rebuilding process. A lot of changes will be made before the start of the new season. I doubt Robinho will be able to dominate this year, he's just too small. He'll need lift iron to be effective at that level.
Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: palos on July 03, 2005, 04:09:12 AM
This youth is heading for stardom, wrong team though. Barcelona is the place to be.

Real is in the rebuilding process. A lot of changes will be made before the start of the new season. I doubt Robinho will be able to dominate this year, he's just too small. He'll need lift iron to be effective at that level.

If he too small....how come he doin so well against all these big and strong defenders at the INTERNATIONAL level?

Is Saviola a "big" man?  Raul?  Robben?

Stern John lookin like Hulk dese days...he dominatin?  It have anybody does fall dong more dan Stern John?

Steupes.



Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: Jah Gol on July 03, 2005, 06:19:46 AM
Brother you go ahead and steups . When the season come around we'll see.
Robinho is a quality player but you must remember this will be his first season in Spain. Against the better teams he may not be as effective as he could be.

Them men you call, Raul and Robben grow in European Systems and even though they small they strong.

Robinho may not even play as dedicated foward for many games . They will probably push him wide.
Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: Feliziano on July 03, 2005, 12:14:31 PM
  It have anybody does fall dong more dan Stern John?

Steupes.

Yeah Emile Heskey lol
Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: palos on July 03, 2005, 01:04:14 PM
Brother you go ahead and steups . When the season come around we'll see.
Robinho is a quality player but you must remember this will be his first season in Spain. Against the better teams he may not be as effective as he could be.

Them men you call, Raul and Robben grow in European Systems and even though they small they strong.

Robinho may not even play as dedicated foward for many games . They will probably push him wide.

So Saviola grow in European systems too?

Michael Owen not small?  Which more physically demandin leagues it have dan in Britain.  When he come on de scene he was scorin goal by de bagful small as he was and dat was bout Robinho size.

Who is de most effective forward player on de American team?  Not DaMarcus Beasley?  How big he is?  How big Landon Donovan is? 

Robinho mashin up all dem BIG European players on de International stage.  Yuh watchin too much North American sports like NBA & NFL and dem breds.  Dem principle doh always necessarily apply in football.  Yuh have to apply de situation to de individual player.

Is not to say he cyah get stronger.  He will.  But what he have right now quite sufficent.  Yuh think Real Madrid payin dah money not fuh he to start right away?  Yuh tink Arsenal was willin to bruk dem bank fuh somebody dey have to "develop"?

Get real.
Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: Jah Gol on July 03, 2005, 01:32:17 PM
Dat is my point exactly. Don't expect the youth to mash up this season. Ronaldinho spend more than two years in France before he went to Barcelona. He was a skiny youth who needed to learn plenty. Robinho is no different. Robinho is excellent at running at defenders and finding space but he's not the best finisher. When Real Madrid comes up against top European opposition you can't expect the man to just make a difference immediately, give him time is all I'm saying.


Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: palos on July 03, 2005, 02:24:48 PM
Dat is my point exactly. Don't expect the youth to mash up this season. Ronaldinho spend more than two years in France before he went to Barcelona. He was a skiny youth who needed to learn plenty. Robinho is no different. Robinho is excellent at running at defenders and finding space but he's not the best finisher. When Real Madrid comes up against top European opposition you can't expect the man to just make a difference immediately, give him time is all I'm saying.

You sayin Ronaldinho wasn't mashin up people prior to goin to Barcelona?

If so..YOU GOTS TO BE KIDDIN!!!!  The main difference between Ronaldinho now and when he was with PSG is experience and Barcelona is a much higher profile club. 

By the way....99% of the worlds population gain size as they get older. 

If Robinho can make a difference for Brasil, THE BEST FOTBALL TEAM ON PLANET EARTH RIGHT NOW, you think he can't do the same for Real Madrid?

You got jokes bro.




Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: Jah Gol on July 03, 2005, 04:05:51 PM
This will go forever forever. I still say give him time to mature physically and mentally.
Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: Israel on July 03, 2005, 04:43:07 PM
I want to c how madrid goin and play Robinho with Ronaldo, Raul & Owen........Dey might play with 3 forwards.
Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: Jah Gol on July 03, 2005, 04:55:51 PM
They say that they keeping Owen. If Luxemburgo keep the 4-4-2 sysytem, I think he will play wide.
He played on the left wing for Brazil in the last Gold Cup.

Barca  still going to mash up next year.
Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: Raul on July 03, 2005, 06:38:06 PM
I want to c how madrid goin and play Robinho with Ronaldo, Raul & Owen........Dey might play with 3 forwards.
Don't worry, Robinho has opened the door for Ronaldo to leave, both internationally and at the club level. Thank the lord!
Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: Jah Gol on July 03, 2005, 08:13:18 PM
If Real let go Ronaldo they stupid. Ronaldo scored more than Raul and Owen last season. I don't like him but you can't beat class. Ronaldo scores goals.
Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: palos on July 03, 2005, 09:41:44 PM
Don't worry, Robinho has opened the door for Ronaldo to leave, both internationally and at the club level. Thank the lord!

You really fed up of Brasil winning all the time and Ronaldo constantly showing that Raul isn't even in the same universe as he is as a player eh?

Wha mus be bunnin yuh even more is when Luxemborgo DROP RAUL, Real Madrid start to win.

Oh well.....keep stocking up on yuh haterade.  You'll need to consume your lifetime's worth of the "beverage" before Ronaldo is done.
Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: Israel on July 04, 2005, 12:36:15 PM
Robinho isnt in d same class as Ronaldo, i find Owen cud go to d bench, madrid got a lot of penalties from Ronaldo getting kick down in the box last season.
Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: jusme on July 04, 2005, 01:10:37 PM
Robinho isnt in d same class as Ronaldo, i find Owen cud go to d bench, madrid got a lot of penalties from Ronaldo getting kick down in the box last season.

I was just about to talk about Ronaldo ability to draw penalties.  Every game I watch, the man does either score or win a penalty for somebody else (usually Zidane) to score.
Title: Re: Real Madrid get their man!
Post by: Trinimassive on July 04, 2005, 02:20:47 PM
From all accounts it seems that it aint a done deal with Real ???
He perplexed and I perplexed.


Robinho perplexed as Real deal stalls
 
 
SAO PAULO, July 4 (Reuters) - Brazil forward Robinho said Monday that Real Madrid had offered $25million to Santos for him and that he could not understand why the Brazilian champions would not let him go.
The 21-year-old, rated as one of the world's most exciting players, became bogged down in controversy last Wednesday after an interview at the Confederations Cup when he bid farewell to Santos supporters and said he wanted to play for the Spanish team.


Santos president Marcelo Teixeira replied that Robinho had a contract until 2008 and any club wanting to buy him beforehand would have to pay a $50million penalty.

A furious Teixeira also accused Real of behaving unethically by approaching Robinho without the club's permission.

'I didn't expect such a fuss when I got a concrete offer to leave Brazil,' Robinho told a media conference on Monday.

'I don't know if I'm going to play for Santos again. But at the moment, I'm not in the right frame of mind to play in Brazil.

'It's difficult to say that I don't want to play for Santos any more, but that's how life goes.'

Robinho, who burst on to the scene in 2002 when he helped Pele's former club win their first Brazilian championship, said that Teixeira had promised he could leave the club after this year's Libertadores Cup campaign.

Santos's participation in the competition ended last month when they lost 5-2 on aggregate to Atletico Paranaense in the quarter-finals after Robinho missed the second leg because of the Confederations Cup.

'In October last year, when PSV (Eindhoven) and Benfica were interested in me, the president told me that he would let me go after the Libertadores for 10 million Euros,' said Robinho.

'Real Madrid are offering $25 million and he doesn't want to let me go. I hope he keeps his promise.'

Robinho defied orders by missing Santos training on Friday and Saturday and was left out of the team for Sunday's Brazilian championship match at home to Juventude.

'I'm not indisciplined and I don't have any privileges within the squad,' Robinho said.

'My mind is at Real Madrid and there's no reason to train when my mind is with Real. I would get in the way of the coach (Gallo).'

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Title: Robinho Thread
Post by: Bally on July 21, 2005, 05:41:39 PM
Robinho joins Real Madrid for 30 million dollars
 
July 21, 2005
MADRID (AFP) - Real Madrid confirmed it had signed Braziian international striker Robinho from Santos for a fee in the region of 30 million dollars.

The 21-year-old was expected to leave Brazil for 50 million dollars but the player has waived his right to 40-percent of that fee to facilitate the move.

As a result, Real have agreed to pay 60-percent of the Santos demand.

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"Robinho has renounced the 40-percent to which he had the right to effect his dream move to Real Madrid," said his agent Wagner Ribeiro in Rio de Janeiro.

"Now he is waiting for a certificate of transfer so that he can travel to Spain."

Robinho, who starred for Brazil at the Confederations Cup in Germany last month, had said last week that he was ready to give up millions of dollars to secure the move to Real Madrid.

"If I have to give up what's due to me to play in Real Madrid that's no problem," he said. "I'm young and have all my career ahead of me."

Santos president Marcelo Teixeira had been adamant that with Robinho under contract until 2008 any club that wanted to sign him would have to meet the 50 million dollar penalty clause for the player.

As a sign of protest Robinho - whose mother was kidnapped but subsequently rescued earlier this year - refused to train with his club.

 
 
Title: Robinho at last
Post by: Jah Gol on July 22, 2005, 07:15:32 AM
I hate Real Madrid but with this youth is a future superstar.

Real Get Robinho
7/21/2005 10:52:00 PM
Real Madrid have finally signed Santos striker Robinho in a £16.6 million deal.
The Spanish giants have been chasing Brazil’s highly-rated 21-year-old all summer, and with Robinho recently refusing to play any more games for Santos, a transfer looked more and more likely.

Reports in Spain this morning that Robinho had undergone a ‘secret’ medical for Real suggested that the transfer was not only inevitable but imminent.

And tonight, Real’s media chief Antonio Garcia Ferreras confirmed: "We’ll pay 24 million Euros, that’s 60 per cent of the buy-out clause," referring to the fee of £28.4 million (41 million Euros) that Santos had demanded.

"The other 40 per cent should be paid to the player and his agent, but they will forego their share."

Garcia Ferreras added that the fee will initially be paid to the Brazilian Football Confederation rather than Santos.

"It’s settled," added Robinho’s agent Wagner Riberio.

"I’ve just deposited US$30 million with the Brazilian Football Confederation to be passed on to Santos.

"Robinho is just waiting for a transfer certificate to travel. He waived the 40 per cent to which he was entitled to be able to fulfil his dream of playing for Real Madrid."

The striker was determined to continue his career in the Spanish capital and made it clear after helping Brazil win the Confederations Cup that he saw his future in Europe.

"It’ll be good for the safety of my family," said Robinho, whose mother was kidnapped and held captive for 40 days last year before being released.

"Spain is an ideal country for Brazilian players and I know Real coach Vanderlei Luxemburgo very well. My mind is at Real Madrid."

One of those fellow-Brazilians, Ronaldo, said of the prospect of linking up with Robinho: “With him playing we are going to have fun.”

Robinho also claimed that Santos president Marcelo Teixeira had reneged on a promise to let him leave the club for £6.76 million by upping the price to £28.4 million.

"In October last year, when PSV Eindhoven and Benfica were interested in me, the president told me that he would let me go after the [Copa] Libertadores for 10 million Euros (£6.76 million)," Robinho said.

"Real Madrid are offering $25 million (£14.2 million) and he doesn’t want to let me go. I hope he keeps his promise."

Teixeira insisted that, with Robinho under contract until 2008, any club wanting to sign him would have to meet a £28.4 million penalty clause for the player.

But his tough stance cut no ice with Robinho, who promptly refused to play any more games for Santos after returning from the Confederations Cup.

Robinho, who missed three Brazilian Championship matches, has been fined an undisclosed amount by Santos for every day he has failed to report for duty.

He has reportedly instructed his lawyers to take the case to a local labour court.

His arrival at the Bernabeu will inevitably heighten speculation about fellow-striker Michael Owen’s future with the club.
Title: Re: Robinho at last
Post by: arrow on July 22, 2005, 07:16:38 AM
is Owen on the transfer block then?
Title: Re: Robinho at last
Post by: Observer on July 22, 2005, 07:25:36 AM
is Owen on the transfer block then?

No they sold Solari to Inter and looking for a buyer for Figo. Solari played on the left, remember that is where Robinho played for Santos.
Title: Re: Robinho at last
Post by: Jah Gol on July 22, 2005, 08:52:22 AM
It is very likely that Figo and Samuel are going to Inter as well
Title: Re: Robinho at last
Post by: SHOTTA on July 22, 2005, 10:33:44 AM
i doubt walter samuel goin any place who is goin to play in the back????/

tstt sports text this morning said the deal aint gone tru yet so me aint sure who or wat on d right track
Title: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Ngozi on August 03, 2005, 11:25:07 AM
I've been wracking my brains and he reminds me of denilson loads of skill but you really don't know what you're gonna get out of him.... I mean in comparison to his fellow brazilians what does he bring?...I mean with ronaldo you get goals a bunch, with ronaldinho you get some goals and creative playmaking if you ask me in terms of pure goalscoring owen is better though he may not have the flash or skill of robinho he started 26 games last season and was on the bench alot and still scored 16 goals.....I'm not convinced .....feel free to show me that I'm wrong otherwise...I think he is overrated like alot of todays present days football players.....I think players are coming out now at a younger age but not necessarily better than the decade or generation before....I do think though that Rooney is a freak of nature he's going to be really good.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: duscam on August 03, 2005, 11:26:14 AM
well ronaldho was very excited...he spoke very highly and said the fans will be thrilled..so did julio baptista
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Tallman on August 03, 2005, 11:29:59 AM
I think he is much better that Denilson, but he is missing the goalscoring touch. So far he is lacking the predatory instinct.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: palos on August 03, 2005, 11:39:51 AM
Ivebeen wracking my brains and he reminds me of denilson loads of skill but you really dont know what youre gonna get out of him....i mean in comparison to his fellow brazilians what does he bring?...I mean with ronaldo you get goals a bunch with ronaldinho you get some goals and creative playmaking if you ask me in terms of pure goalscoring owen is better though he may not have the flash or skill of robinho he started 26 games last season and was on the bench alot and still scored 16 goals.....Im not convinced feel free to show me that im wrong otherwise...I think he is overrated like alot of todays present days football players.....i think players are coming out now at a younger age but not necessarily better than the decade or generation before....i do think though that rooney is a freak of nature he's going to be really good.

And here I was thinking you knew football.  My bad.   ;D

You'll just have to wait and see how the season unflolds.  I suspect you'll be changing your tune very shortly.

Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: kicker on August 03, 2005, 12:08:39 PM
I think he is much better that Denilson, but he is missing the goalscoring touch. So far he is lacking the predatory instinct.

Tallman, please give me your definition of goalscoring touch.

 In 2004- Robinho scored 21 goals in 37 appearances in the brasileiro championship (he was the joint top scorer for Santos).

He also scored 4 goals in 12 caps for Brazil...that's 1 in every 3 games...considering that all his caps probably weren't starts, I don't think that's too shabby either.........for a 21 year old

Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: KND2 on August 03, 2005, 12:12:53 PM
First I will say that Denilson is a good player, Not becasue he does not score a lot a goals or did not tear up in europe it means you are not that good.

Every player has assets and Denilson is a world class dribbler, It is up to coaches managers etc to put players assests together to form a world class team.

Robinho can dribble and anyone who can dribble will be an attraction in football beacuse the crowd like to see man get beat.

I do not expect him to be a great player especially not now as he still not that physically strong but he will score some goals and share some beat.

I expect that he will replace Ronaldhino as Ronaldhino replaced Rivaldo in time to come
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Tallman on August 03, 2005, 12:35:54 PM
Tallman, please give me your definition of goalscoring touch.

In 2004- Robinho scored 21 goals in 37 appearances in the brasileiro championship (he was the joint top scorer for Santos).

He also scored 4 goals in 12 caps for Brazil...that's 1 in every 3 games...considering that all his caps probably weren't starts, I don't think that's too shabby either.........for a 21 year old

Yuh ketch meh dey. It was ah poor choice of words. First of all ah should qualify de statement by saying dat ah talking bout when he playing fuh Brazil. Secondly, all the times I have seen him play fuh Brazil over de last year, he gets him himself into goalscoring situations, but he is hesitant to pull de trigger (especially when he is de one dat is creating de chance).
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: kicker on August 03, 2005, 12:43:24 PM
I hear yuh. ah get frightened for a while, because I know you are the stats man. haha

With respect to playing for Brazil, you might be correct. I've only seen him in 3 full appearances for Brazil, so I can't make a good judgement. He's still young though, so that part of his game might develop with confidence. Up until this confed. cup I had never really seen him play a full game for Brazil (except in highlights)......I was actually impressed with his speed (had no idea he was that quick). I was also glad to see that he wasn't just a pure dribbler, which was the impression that I got from some of the highlights that I saw as well. His game is more complete than I had imagined....for 21 years old, I think he has potential for a really good future.

Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: futbolfan on August 03, 2005, 12:53:41 PM
The difference is that he knows when to dribble and when to pass. He tracks back alot on defence and is constanly moving for the entire 90 mins. Watch all of Brazil's games in the recently concluded Confed Cup, and also read the coaches comments after every game. He sums it up in a nutshell. However he does need to work on his finishing and do some strength training, but the hireachy at Real will see to this.  He is the Real deal (no pun intended).  ;)

Ivebeen wracking my brains and he reminds me of denilson loads of skill but you really dont know what youre gonna get out of him....i mean in comparison to his fellow brazilians what does he bring?...I mean with ronaldo you get goals a bunch with ronaldinho you get some goals and creative playmaking if you ask me in terms of pure goalscoring owen is better though he may not have the flash or skill of robinho he started 26 games last season and was on the bench alot and still scored 16 goals.....Im not convinced feel free to show me that im wrong otherwise...I think he is overrated like alot of todays present days football players.....i think players are coming out now at a younger age but not necessarily better than the decade or generation before....i do think though that rooney is a freak of nature he's going to be really good.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: spideybuff on August 03, 2005, 12:57:13 PM
What so special is that at age 17 he burst on the scene and he and Diego take Santos to the championship. Which is more of an impact at that age than ronaldo and ronaldinho. They both look good and score goals but they didn't take the team to the championship as a youth. Plus the fact that he playing with santos and black (not lighter skin like Ronaldo and Ronaldinho) make him be seen as the second coming of Pele.

To the present: .he special now because he have the most beats of all the brazilians on the team now and he looking to beat every time he get the ball.For otherbrazilians tobe calling him 'the dribbling wizrd' he hadda have real thing. When u r a youth man now coming into the selecao and Adriano, Ronldinho and kaka calling for the ball u going to be hesitant to pull the trigger too and give it to the bigger boys, so u cah judge him on the confederations cup. Besides, when last a much hyped youngster from brazil fail? And he is the most hyped....
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Jah Gol on August 03, 2005, 03:52:02 PM
I've many Santos games in the past few months and I will say the Robinho is class act. He is only 21 and controls the game like a veteran. He can turn and swing either leg and score, he has speed and skill. Robinho is a gem. When I first saw him he was 17, I thought the media gave him too much praise back then. Today however, he worth his weight in gold.

As a Barcelona extremist I would have preferred to see him to be at my club than at Real. We'll still beat them because Robinho is a man and  Ronaldinho is a god !

Serious though, the yute is not overrated. His finishing ability will improve with time and effort. I don't expect him tho set the world on fire this year but in two or three years he'll be something really special.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Jayerson on August 03, 2005, 04:03:50 PM
Brazil could easily field three very competitve teams, I can only look on in envy at the rate at which quality players are produced.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Ngozi on August 03, 2005, 04:50:25 PM
Ivebeen wracking my brains and he reminds me of denilson loads of skill but you really dont know what youre gonna get out of him....i mean in comparison to his fellow brazilians what does he bring?...I mean with ronaldo you get goals a bunch with ronaldinho you get some goals and creative playmaking if you ask me in terms of pure goalscoring owen is better though he may not have the flash or skill of robinho he started 26 games last season and was on the bench alot and still scored 16 goals.....Im not convinced feel free to show me that im wrong otherwise...I think he is overrated like alot of todays present days football players.....i think players are coming out now at a younger age but not necessarily better than the decade or generation before....i do think though that rooney is a freak of nature he's going to be really good.

And here I was thinking you knew football.  My bad.   ;D

You'll just have to wait and see how the season unflolds.  I suspect you'll be changing your tune very shortly.



Well partner that is why I see myself as a student of the game Ill never know everything thats why I come on here and put my opinion and ask allyuh....besides you think if i thought I knew everything I'd have asked and i do hope he make meh sing a different tune in a few mths i aint fighting him down I just wanna see the whole package believe it or not when ronaldinho burst onto the scene I was sceptical bout him as well now I does be bawling he name...the only one who really shock meh into belief the first time i saw him was ronaldo when he was tearing up the dutch league he and romario too who used to jog past man making the game look like he was playing it in he sleep. I like the reviews so far I looking forward to seeing the finished product...I see alot of brazil players who people try to make a pele and they fall by the wayside allyuh remmeber rai?
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Big Magician on August 03, 2005, 09:44:19 PM
 ngosi....seaton better than robinho ....lol
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Ngozi on August 04, 2005, 12:23:56 AM
ngosi....seaton better than robinho ....lol

Well partnah tell him to show we a lil something on the national scene nah he is 28 yrs old he around long time oh lawd tell him to stop hiding nah
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Filho on August 04, 2005, 10:01:46 AM
Robinho is only 21, and new to international football, so he can seem a bit inconsistent. But he his the standout player in the Brazilian champoinship right now and earned his call up. I am surprised that Carlos Alberto Parreira played him as a foward...but he is very versatile and as he develops I supsect he will become more of a playmaker in the Ronaldinho mould (Ronaldinho aslo started up front when he first broke into the natioanl team). It is clear that he is extremely talented. Great technique, very fast, eye for goal and great vision. He is the rare player who can play as an out-and-out forward, an attacking midfielder and a winger and he incorporates all of these characteristics in his game.

What is more important is that he is developing his potential faster than his peer group. Rememeber he is the same age as those that played in the Under 17 World Cup in Trinidad. The media and fans alike thought Robinho just had a bag of tricks and that Diego would mature to be the real Brazilian talent of that generation. Early signs indicated that may be true but as of late Robinho has begun to show real maturity and class. He currently outshines LeTallec, Pongolle, Diego and suprisingly evenTevez (who is my pick to really dominate the game in time to come). Look, there are no guarantees and Robinho might flatter to deceive, or he may just not be your kind of player and never will be.....but this is the risk big clubs must take on such huge potential. Wait for the 'finished-product' and it might be too late.

As for comparisons with Owen...there really shouldn't be any. Robinho is a different type of player who I think Real Madrid has bought to actually fill the void that Zidane will leave in the next year or so. IMO...Robinho is not being purchased as a pure goalscorer like Owen but as a potential play-maker who can score goals (more a Rivaldo than a Zidane actually) but I guess we'll see.
Title: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: arrow on August 29, 2005, 08:46:54 AM
Robinho lives up to the hype

MADRID, Aug 29 (Reuters) - It took Brazilian forward Robinho a little less than 25 minutes to live up to the hype that had preceded his $30-million move to Real Madrid.
Arriving in the Spanish capital on Friday, he completed his first training session on Saturday and then captured the hearts of Real Madrid fans with a spectacular match-winning performance in the opening game of the season against Cadiz on Sunday.
Stepping on to the pitch midway through the second half with the score at 1-1, the 21-year-old's first touch was a 'sombrero' -- a cheeky flick over the head of an opposition defender.
Thereafter, he added pace and dynamism to a Real side whose only previous plan of attack had been to give the ball to Ronaldo and hope.
Shortly after creating a fine shooting chance for Roberto Carlos, he set up Real's winning goal with a dazzling piece of individual skill.
Controlling a 30-metre pass from David Beckham with his chest, he swivelled across the edge of the area, left the ball to Ronaldo who burst into the box and unselfishly slipped a pass to Raul to poke into the empty net.
Two minutes from time he left defenders sprawling in his wake when he unleashed his trademark step-over or 'pedalada' before setting up a great chance for Ivan Helguera who hit the bar with his close-range shot.
'I'm really happy to have made my debut,' Robinho told reporters. 'Everything went very well and I felt very comfortable on the pitch. It was important to start off with a win.'
Robinho's new team mates were clearly impressed with what they saw.
'All I ask is that he is given the ball because he is spectacular when he gets it,' said Helguera. 'The team really noticed it when he came on. He opened up the opposition defence and gave us a lot more options up front.'
Brazilian full back Roberto Carlos agreed with his fellow defender. 'He's only just arrived and everyone has now seen what he is capable of doing,' he said. 'He's quick, skilful and has proved he has the talent to play at Real Madrid.'
The Spanish media were no less fulsome in their praise of the former Santos player. 'Robinho, the saviour,' was the headline in sports daily AS, while El Pais said Real had been transformed when he stepped on to the pitch.
'He took no more than a second to sow panic amongst the opposition defence,' Santiago Segurola said in his match report.
'Step-overs to the right, step-overs to the left, he gave a ceaseless exhibition of skill and movement for which there was no antidote.'
Barcelona-based daily Sport simply described the young Brazilian's debut as 'The Robinho Revolution.'
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on August 29, 2005, 08:59:43 AM
I see that game yesterday, that man really bad boy.  Simple simple beat passing like he not even trying hard at all.  Quick feet and changes direction with you even realizing when he gone.  Trouble for them men in the world cup when they meet Brazil.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: kicker on August 29, 2005, 10:40:56 AM
Yip- he made a huge difference to the Madrid attack when he came in.... The boy is no joke...I knew that already, but he confirmed it even further yesterday......
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Tha G. on August 29, 2005, 08:32:11 PM
it go be fire in de world cup when dem teams meet BRAZIL... brazil at full strength with ronaldo, adriano, robinho, ronaldino rivaldo and de rest ah dem "O"s...... brazil going ffor 6
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Israel on August 30, 2005, 07:05:44 AM
Gunman, Rivaldo cyah make dat side again dread, yuh forget Kaka.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Mose on August 30, 2005, 07:21:29 AM
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it go be fire in de world cup when dem teams meet BRAZIL... brazil at full strength with ronaldo, adriano, robinho, ronaldino rivaldo and de rest ah dem "O"s...... brazil going ffor 6

De question is, where yuh putting all of dem? And who go be coming off de bench?
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: kicker on August 30, 2005, 08:16:33 AM
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it go be fire in de world cup when dem teams meet BRAZIL... brazil at full strength with ronaldo, adriano, robinho, ronaldino rivaldo and de rest ah dem "O"s...... brazil going ffor 6

De question is, where yuh putting all of dem? And who go be coming off de bench?

Yup it will be damn near impossible for Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Adriano, Robinho & Kaka to be on the field at the same time,   because the coach will want to balance the field with players like Ze Roberto, Juninho Pernambuco, Edmilson, Emerson, Gilberto etc..............but nevertheless, it will be fun to watch. For those who love a stylish counter-attack, Brazil will be some good entertainment.

Interesting how Brazil lately has gone against convention by ignoring that one pure middle of the park midfield general (eg Alex, Juninho pernambuco-Lyon) and opted for a combination of holding middies (eg edmilson, gilberto, emerson etc).... and purely attacking middies/forwards- (eg.ronaldinho, kaka etc)......

It's changed their style of game from a dominating possession team, to a flashy counter-attacking team. Pele hinted that he thinks that might be their only downfall.....nevertheless fun to watch..
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Marcos on August 30, 2005, 08:36:26 AM
I still think that there is room in the middle for Diego. he is more content to spread the ball and doesn't always want the ball at his feet like the others

                                 Diego

Robinho.....................................................Ronaldinho

..................................Kaka.......................................

...................Adriano..................Ronaldo......................


that and any 4 defenders killin ppl
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Preacher on August 30, 2005, 08:43:20 AM
Yeah boy that's the scariest thing I ever see on paper...
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: kicker on August 30, 2005, 08:54:31 AM
I still think that there is room in the middle for Diego. he is more content to spread the ball and doesn't always want the ball at his feet like the others

                                 Diego

Robinho.....................................................Ronaldinho

..................................Kaka.......................................

...................Adriano..................Ronaldo......................


that and any 4 defenders killin ppl

I think there are quite a few players higher up on the totem pole for selection before Diego.....Not that he's incapable, but unless he has a remarkable improvement in form, I'll be surprised to see him starting or even on the Brazil squad come World Cup. I think Brazil's  squad is more likely to look like this


                                                      Dida
                                                                                                                                                       
                                          RoqueJunior      Lucio
                                                     
                                        Edmilson/Gilberto/Emerson
Cafu/Beletti                                                                                      Roberto Carlos

                                  Kaka            Ronaldinho             Ze Roberto

                                       Ronaldo        Adriano/Robinho




But who knows.........alot can change
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: palos on August 30, 2005, 09:01:40 AM
I still think that there is room in the middle for Diego. he is more content to spread the ball and doesn't always want the ball at his feet like the others

                                 Diego

Robinho.....................................................Ronaldinho

..................................Kaka.......................................

...................Adriano..................Ronaldo......................


that and any 4 defenders killin ppl

Diego?  You gots to be kidding!

De only Diego who could be in dah company is Diego Maradona and I eh see he turnin out fuh Brasil.

Allyuh good wee....no offence by de way.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Marcos on August 30, 2005, 09:33:21 AM

Either way the squad is still incredible.
With regard to your comment that they don't play possession ball, I found that at many times in the confed cup they had long spells of possession.
Also in the WCQ in which they were embarrassed by Argentina, they still played very well dominating the ball for long periods of time. I don't know if anyone saw that match but I found that they were very unlucky, and Argentina looked extra sharp in their counters on that day, finishing every half chance that they had-- much like Chelsea and Drogba in the Community Shield.

This all goes to show that Brazil, despite having an all-century calibre of team are still not invincible.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: kicker on August 30, 2005, 09:42:19 AM

Either way the squad is still incredible.
With regard to your comment that they don't play possession ball, I found that at many times in the confed cup they had long spells of possession.
Also in the WCQ in which they were embarrassed by Argentina, they still played very well dominating the ball for long periods of time. I don't know if anyone saw that match but I found that they were very unlucky, and Argentina looked extra sharp in their counters on that day, finishing every half chance that they had-- much like Chelsea and Drogba in the Community Shield.

This all goes to show that Brazil, despite having an all-century calibre of team are still not invincible.

You're right...No team is invincible, especially today when all teams are so closely matched and tactics have become so important...and yes Brazil can/does play possession. I wasn't really saying that they don't. I was saying that the players that they build their team around lately are not as suited to the possession game that many people expect from Brazil.......but in football, it's been seen that alot of times, the style of game a team adopts depends on and changes with the match-ups/opposition, and the flow of the game.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: JDB on August 30, 2005, 09:46:15 AM
                                 Diego

Robinho.....................................................Ronaldinho

..................................Kaka.......................................

...................Adriano..................Ronaldo......................


that and any 4 defenders killin ppl

Marcos I would like to see one of your teams play football.

Last time you propose a TnT team with THREE defenders plus Birchall, Spann, Whitley, Yorke AND Edwards, Glen AND Jones striking.

Now you pick a Brazil team with Diego anchoring the midfield. You do know that the other team is allowed to attack as well right? and there are such things as defensive midfielders like Emerson and Gilberto Silva?

That side you pick will win a game 7-0 one day and get 5 a next day and will have little chance of winning a WC. There needs to be more balance.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Marcos on August 30, 2005, 09:57:54 AM
I just puttin forth some ideas.  I think Brazil could always outscore an opponent with a team like this.

With regards to the Birchall and Spann as defensive midfield. I think they could try to emulate Lampard and Makelele in Chelsea. Daz d idea
I like teams playing with out and out wingers too....(see Robinho and Ronaldinho in the diagram). Wingers give defenses no end of worries and provide options going forward.
Notice when TT attacks, we reach the midfield then have nowhere to go so we either launch it forward aimlessly, or go backwards to the defense for an even worse passer to launch it.
Birch and Spann near the defense may provide better decision making out of the back
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: JDB on August 30, 2005, 10:01:20 AM
You're right...No team is invincible, especially today when all teams are so closely matched and tactics have become so important...and yes Brazil can/does play possession. I wasn't really saying that they don't. I was saying that the players that they build their team around lately are not as suited to the possession game that many people expect from Brazil.......but in football, it's been seen that alot of times, the style of game a team adopts depends on and changes with the match-ups/opposition, and the flow of the game.

I disagree with this. Defensive midfielders are what you need to play a possession game and Brazil realizes this.
Teams play more defensive ball thsese days and it is not possible to break down a team on every play. If you want to have possession you need players to keep the ball and win it back.

Defensive minded-midfielders do more for the possesson game than offensive players who basically go forward until a play breaks down.

They win the ball
They are an outlet for the ball to come back to when a play loses steam or breaks down
They run all day and receive passes from defenders and from attackers
They do not waste the ball because they make less adventurous passes or wait for a really good opening

Brazil realize this long time and they have been playing with men like Cerezo, Junior, Dunga, Mauro Silva, Emerson, Gilberto Silva who are excellent players who they give the job of anchoring the midfield.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Marcos on August 30, 2005, 10:04:54 AM
First of all, Brazil hasn't had this type of talent for a long time. Hence they needed defensive mids to win.
Second of all, they don't need to break the defense down on every play. Just 5 or 6 times a game. Don't you think that this team is capable of that?
Robinho and Ronaldinho can do it twice each by themselves.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: JDB on August 30, 2005, 10:12:21 AM
I understand what yuh saying Marcos. It is clear that you appreciate attaking football but putiing a player in a def mid slot does not make him good at tackling, harrying and supporting.

Neither Spann nor Birchall are natural defensive midfielders. You could put them there and hope for the best, but you can't put them there and then take away a defender, add an attacker and expect them to pick up the slack.

Players like Makalele, Desailly, Glberto, Davids, Keane are where they are for a reason, they have an aptitude for the defensive part of the game because of their skills, attitude and experience.

Football is very defensive now because everybody is afraid of the counter attack. There are very few teams that play with two out and out forwards, much less for two forwards plus a pure playmaker. When they play with two wingers you will see theree midfielers and one forward (like United and Chelsea) and when

Barcelona is probably the most adventurous playing with Eto'o, Ronaldinho and Deco and I guess Larson,when fit. the end result though is that they don't defend as well and a team like Chelsea can sut through them like butter on a given day.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: JDB on August 30, 2005, 10:19:41 AM
First of all, Brazil hasn't had this type of talent for a long time. Hence they needed defensive mids to win.


In the lead up to the 98 world cup Barzil had Denilson, Ronaldo, Romario, Leonardo (who was a playmaker at Milan at the time), Bebeto, Giovanni, Juninho plus the man they call the Animal.

They had more than enough top class talent and they still went with Dunga and Cear Sampaio as the first names on the team sheet. They didn't even take Romario.

That is one country that never lack attacking talent. They pick defensive players by choice not by circumstance.

Second of all, they don't need to break the defense down on every play. Just 5 or 6 times a game. Don't you think that this team is capable of that?
Robinho and Ronaldinho can do it twice each by themselves.

I don't know if this is serious but what happens the 20 - 30 other plays when they don't break down the defence? Does the opposition give them the ball and let them start over or do they have to fight to win it back?
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: kicker on August 30, 2005, 10:35:41 AM
You're right...No team is invincible, especially today when all teams are so closely matched and tactics have become so important...and yes Brazil can/does play possession. I wasn't really saying that they don't. I was saying that the players that they build their team around lately are not as suited to the possession game that many people expect from Brazil.......but in football, it's been seen that alot of times, the style of game a team adopts depends on and changes with the match-ups/opposition, and the flow of the game.

I disagree with this. Defensive midfielders are what you need to play a possession game and Brazil realizes this.
Teams play more defensive ball thsese days and it is not possible to break down a team on every play. If you want to have possession you need players to keep the ball and win it back.

Defensive minded-midfielders do more for the possesson game than offensive players who basically go forward until a play breaks down.

They win the ball
They are an outlet for the ball to come back to when a play loses steam or breaks down
They run all day and receive passes from defenders and from attackers
They do not waste the ball because they make less adventurous passes or wait for a really good opening

Brazil realize this long time and they have been playing with men like Cerezo, Junior, Dunga, Mauro Silva, Emerson, Gilberto Silva who are excellent players who they give the job of anchoring the midfield.

That's one way to look at it, and you have a good point. I'm not arguing that Brazil never had defensive midfielders. I'm a huge fan of Brazil, and I've been following them for sometime. I'm not arguing that Brazil cannot and does not possess the ball. I stated it pretty explicitly. Look at the lineup that I proposed they will start with. All I am saying that Brazil's combination of players today more facilitates a game that involves ball winning and quick counter-attacking, and they don't really have that one dominating midfield general that conducts the style of possession that many associate Brazil with..........

I agree that ball winners facilitate possession, but it's not just possession that I'm speaking of, it's more the style of possession that Brazil has been associated with Brazil.

Carlos Aberto Parreira said that he believes the future of football is in the counter attack. He also said that the difference he has tried to make in Brazilian football in the 90's is to help them become more organized in winning the ball- hence his stronger emphasis on ball winners. He said they haven't become more defensive, but what has changed is the way in which they win he ball and style in which they move the ball and attack.

All I'm saying is that what the coach has said, is pretty consistent with Brazil's choice of player and their style of football in recent years. I still think it's entertaining, creative and fun to look at........but I can see the consistency between the philosophy and what is exhibited on the field. Do you not agree JDB ?
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: UPRISING on August 30, 2005, 10:40:17 AM
JDB, You making real sense.  Marcos, pardna, not so much....Diego running the middle?? ???

Brazil as we know ALWAYS have a big squad I en care if is small goal, juggling, big goal or WHATEVER, they pickin who they want..

In 2002 when Zidane had ah out-of-body experience and MASH UP Brazil in the final, they had Dunga absolutely HOLDING IT DOWN IN THE MIDDLE..as Brazilian def. mids go, i think he is the standard .... honorable mention to Junior ('82, '86) when he played in the middle with the great Socrates...Brazil as far as I could remember always played with a solid def. mid..

Here is a big squad:  Gilberto getting my vote as the def. mid

                          Dida
             Roque             Lucio
     Cafu                                R.Carlos
                  Gilberto/Emerson
       Kaka                            Ze Roberto
          
           Bugs-a-dinho       Adriano
                       Ronaldo
    
Only Argentina (and Trinidad  :beermug:) have a chance nex' year!!!!!
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: FF on August 30, 2005, 10:42:45 AM
Whappen to these men boy...

I know this article was posted here before

http://www.isfa.com/news/?id=16280

It is a real nice read.... in a nutshell parreira says he won the world cup defensively in 94 and got stick for it... Now he says he is going all out to win it with ah super attacking side in the spirit of the 1970 team...

It is said that Brazil has not enjoyed this richness of talent since them days... So he going back to 4-2-4... Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Robinho and Adriano up front... Kaka and Emerson in the middle... Notice all that attack and they still have Emerson they to throw some blade...

So the side go look like this

------------------------------Dida-------------------------------

--------------------Lucio---------Edmilson-------------------

Cafu----------------------------------------------Roberto Carlos

--------------------Kaka------------Emerson------------------

----Robinho----------------------------------------Ronaldinho

------------------Ronaldo------------Adriano-------------------


Now that is scary :notworthy:
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: UPRISING on August 30, 2005, 10:59:28 AM
FF,
True indeed, BOMB SQUAD ..expect all games to be a shootout
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Marcos on August 30, 2005, 11:11:51 AM
First of all, Brazil hasn't had this type of talent for a long time. Hence they needed defensive mids to win.


In the lead up to the 98 world cup Barzil had Denilson, Ronaldo, Romario, Leonardo (who was a playmaker at Milan at the time), Bebeto, Giovanni, Juninho plus the man they call the Animal.

They had more than enough top class talent and they still went with Dunga and Cear Sampaio as the first names on the team sheet. They didn't even take Romario.


That is one country that never lack attacking talent. They pick defensive players by choice not by circumstance.

Second of all, they don't need to break the defense down on every play. Just 5 or 6 times a game. Don't you think that this team is capable of that?
Robinho and Ronaldinho can do it twice each by themselves.

I don't know if this is serious but what happens the 20 - 30 other plays when they don't break down the defence? Does the opposition give them the ball and let them start over or do they have to fight to win it back?

partner that squad wants nothing with this squad. ask zagallo who was coaching the 98 team and is now an assistant.  ask carlos alberto perreira who already win playin defensive mids in 94 and now coaching this squad. this sqad is far superior to any squad brazil put forth in the 90s. That doesn't mean they'll win though.
 and about tryin spann and birchall as defensive mids. it seems like we just "trying" everywhere else too so i don't see that point at all.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Marcos on August 30, 2005, 11:20:00 AM
PS i not sayin anybody wrong, i just don't see the problem with trying a different approach i.e. out and out attack. I am not saying it is right, just that in the interest of football, i would like to see it. I don't know about anyone else but i like to see more goals more than i like to see tackles.

And kicker,
Diego is th emidfield general i was looking for that u referred to. a man who can control the middle. That is basically what he does and did when Brazil won the copa america last year
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: kicker on August 30, 2005, 11:27:31 AM
PS i not sayin anybody wrong, i just don't see the problem with trying a different approach i.e. out and out attack. I am not saying it is right, just that in the interest of football, i would like to see it. I don't know about anyone else but i like to see more goals more than i like to see tackles.

And kicker,
Diego is th emidfield general i was looking for that u referred to. a man who can control the middle. That is basically what he does and did when Brazil won the copa america last year

When Brazil won the last copa, Alex (and to a lesser extent Kleberson) was the midfield general. Diego was most times coming off the bench, and didn't have a big impact. I saw all of Brazil's copa games, which is why I say that I'll be surprised if Diego bounces back and makes this current squad.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: JDB on August 30, 2005, 12:04:40 PM

I agree that ball winners facilitate possession, but it's not just possession that I'm speaking of, it's more the style of possession that Brazil has been associated with Brazil.


I know that this is what you meant but it is not what you said. Brazil still play possession football because they have talented players and that is how they play but you are right it is different to the kind of football that men remember Brazil playing.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: JDB on August 30, 2005, 12:18:53 PM
partner that squad wants nothing with this squad. ask zagallo who was coaching the 98 team and is now an assistant.  ask carlos alberto perreira who already win playin defensive mids in 94 and now coaching this squad. this sqad is far superior to any squad brazil put forth in the 90s.

And they are still going to play defensive midfielders. They will not play with six attacking players just because they can. It ha sto make tactical sense as well.

PS i not sayin anybody wrong, i just don't see the problem with trying a different approach i.e. out and out attack. I am not saying it is right, just that in the interest of football, i would like to see it. I don't know about anyone else but i like to see more goals more than i like to see tackles.

I like to see good teams win and it would be a shame for a team with Brazil's talent to shoot themselves in the foot by ignoring players like Emerson and Gilberto.

But we'll see. Personally I don't believe that Pareira of all people is going into a WC game without defensive minded midfielders.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: palos on August 30, 2005, 01:13:04 PM
Whappen to these men boy...

I know this article was posted here before

http://www.isfa.com/news/?id=16280

It is a real nice read.... in a nutshell parreira says he won the world cup defensively in 94 and got stick for it... Now he says he is going all out to win it with ah super attacking side in the spirit of the 1970 team...

It is said that Brazil has not enjoyed this richness of talent since them days... So he going back to 4-2-4... Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Robinho and Adriano up front... Kaka and Emerson in the middle... Notice all that attack and they still have Emerson they to throw some blade...

So the side go look like this

------------------------------Dida-------------------------------

--------------------Lucio---------Edmilson-------------------

Cafu----------------------------------------------Roberto Carlos

--------------------Kaka------------Emerson------------------

----Robinho----------------------------------------Ronaldinho

------------------Ronaldo------------Adriano-------------------


Now that is scary :notworthy:

Nice sentimental, romantic squad.

In reality...time fuh yuh to wake up.  Brasil not goin wit 1 defensive midfielder....ESPECIALLY given that Cafu & RC does FREQUENTLY get caught out of position when overlappin.  Not in today's football sah.

Again....nice thoughts.  All that attacking talent cyah do squat if they doh have de ball.  That is why it's imperative to have the Emerson's and Gilberto Silva's of this world.

That said...that side yuh name could play T&T and gi we 6 at least.  We might even score 1 or 2, but it eh go be T&T dem playin come next summer...unless we get draw in dem group.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: FF on August 30, 2005, 01:52:01 PM
Palos,

The only difference with tha side and de side wha play in the confederations cup is basically ze roberto on the wing... and he eh no defensive midfielder!! so wha you really talking bout???

Forget the defence because cicinho and gilberto was straight swaps for cafu and RC.

The only defensive player in the midfield was Emerson... to say Ze Roberto was a defensive player is aahhh stretchhhhh....
After that is Kaka, Ronaldinho, Adriano and Robinho...

So they went with ONE DM and watch ....

Tha squad give Argentina 4 in de final... ah know yuh watch de game

And boss... I eh make up that outta de top of my head... That is why I post de link.... watch it good.. is only Ronaldo to come een and the squad complete... If they want they could switch tings round and go a lil more conservative such is their depth...

ah tell yuh is ah scary squad!!!

Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: palos on August 30, 2005, 03:15:50 PM
Palos,

The only difference with tha side and de side wha play in the confederations cup is basically ze roberto on the wing... and he eh no defensive midfielder!! so wha you really talking bout???

Forget the defence because cicinho and gilberto was straight swaps for cafu and RC.

The only defensive player in the midfield was Emerson... to say Ze Roberto was a defensive player is aahhh stretchhhhh....
After that is Kaka, Ronaldinho, Adriano and Robinho...

So they went with ONE DM and watch ....

Tha squad give Argentina 4 in de final... ah know yuh watch de game

And boss... I eh make up that outta de top of my head... That is why I post de link.... watch it good.. is only Ronaldo to come een and the squad complete... If they want they could switch tings round and go a lil more conservative such is their depth...

ah tell yuh is ah scary squad!!!



No disrespeck FF but you watch dem Confederation Cup games and come away wit de impression dat Ze Roberto play anything other than defensive midfield?  You say he play on de wing?  Who wing?  Emerson wing?  ;D
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Filho on August 30, 2005, 03:39:17 PM
Marcos...I doh really feel you watch football nah. That Brazil line up is rubbish. You could try something different, yeah, but you just trying to pile on your favorite players on one team. That team will get smashed by a tactically astute and skillful team like Argentina. Too many attackers and Diego is not playing well enough to make Brazil's squad. he is talented and between now and the Cup he might become the man...but for now he not even making the bench. AND last copa America Diego was a serious bench warmer. He probably didn't start a single game and Alex (the captain) was the midfield general. He and Kleberson started just about every game. What football have you been watching dread?

Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Marcos on August 30, 2005, 05:56:14 PM
watch plenty football and saw who was on d field when brazil came back to draw in d final seconds of the copa final
if it was up to ppl like allyuh everyone would still believe d world was flat
all i doin is makin suggestions
y'all sound like u just always want to be a step behind
probably backed france and portugal in d last world cup too
everybody doubted me when i was saying brazil was winnin d last wc.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Filho on August 30, 2005, 07:27:07 PM
heheh...Marcos, that last post was a real defensive rant,...but i supporting Brazil from the time when they was winning absolutely nothing in the 80s (except Copa Aamerica '89) and early 90s, until now....i never waiver from dat. but that is not the point. I not suggesting an archaic brazilian solution, or that the squad should remain unchanged, so the world is flat analogy is garbage. Yep, your lineup was weak in my and just about everyone's opinion who bothered to respond to what you put out there. No need to take up the attitude that you are the only enlightened genius. Why you get vex? Everyone must like your line up now? You put something on the site....then be prepared to get a response in disagreement sometimes...especially when you talk rubbish like saying Diego was Brazil's midfield general in the Copa and trying to back it up by saying he was on the field for the last few minutes of the final. Yep he was on as a late sub in the final, yes he is a gifted player, but you are wrong...he was not the midfield general. It is impossible to call him that when he started every game on the bench and played very few minutes, and he was fully fit...
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: kicker on August 31, 2005, 06:59:38 AM
watch plenty football and saw who was on d field when brazil came back to draw in d final seconds of the copa final
if it was up to ppl like allyuh everyone would still believe d world was flat
all i doin is makin suggestions
y'all sound like u just always want to be a step behind
probably backed france and portugal in d last world cup too
everybody doubted me when i was saying brazil was winnin d last wc.

Marcos, take it easy.......believing the world is flat, and backing France and Portugal, and doubting that Brazil was winning the last world cup, has nothing to do with the fact that Diego was not the midfield general in the last copa. That's all peeps tryin' to say. I watched every game in the last copa...........Diego didn't make much of a note. That's not saying that he's not good. No one is doubting that he's a talented player, and no one will be shocked if he found form, and played a major role for Brazil. At this point, that's just not the case. Diego himself might admit that. He was more of a leader a few Gold Cups ago with the Brazil U-23 team. If you made reference to that, then your argument would have been more credible, but your Copa example was just the wrong one, that's all. If you feel he should be on the team, fine. But others don't. It's as simple as that.

You can't say that people want to be a step behind, when they suggest that a midfield should be balanced out with holding/defensive middies. If anything, they're a step ahead. The game has changed, and holding midfielders have gained importance with the advancement of football and footballing tactics. An unbalanced team is actually a step behind the times.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Marcos on August 31, 2005, 07:36:59 AM
haha
i just talkin bout playin an attackin formation
i not defendin my diego pick
my world is flat analogy wasn't  referring to him but to the idea that you MUST play with a def mid to have success
that's why i said i was just making suggestions
i have no problem with ppl disagreeing with me
i enjoy open debates
i have said it time and again that this is a FORUM to voice opinions
and about piling all my favorite players on one team, i just talking about piling all the best offensive players into one team. I just wanna see it before i say it is a terrible idea
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Marcos on August 31, 2005, 07:44:39 AM
i love that we arguing about Brazil doh.
u shoulda see ppl walink in little brazil with flag on their backs after brazil won the copa last yr.
we need to have a little brazil in trinidad
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: kicker on August 31, 2005, 07:46:36 AM
i love that we arguing about Brazil doh.
u shoulda see ppl walink in little brazil with flag on their backs after brazil won the copa last yr.
we need to have a little brazil in trinidad

Come World Cup time....half of Trinidad is little Brazil..........me included
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Gladman on August 31, 2005, 01:37:00 PM
I understand what yuh saying Marcos. It is clear that you appreciate attaking football but putiing a player in a def mid slot does not make him good at tackling, harrying and supporting.

Neither Spann nor Birchall are natural defensive midfielders. You could put them there and hope for the best, but you can't put them there and then take away a defender, add an attacker and expect them to pick up the slack.

Players like Makalele, Desailly, Glberto, Davids, Keane are where they are for a reason, they have an aptitude for the defensive part of the game because of their skills, attitude and experience.

Football is very defensive now because everybody is afraid of the counter attack. There are very few teams that play with two out and out forwards, much less for two forwards plus a pure playmaker. When they play with two wingers you will see theree midfielers and one forward (like United and Chelsea) and when

Barcelona is probably the most adventurous playing with Eto'o, Ronaldinho and Deco and I guess Larson,when fit. the end result though is that they don't defend as well and a team like Chelsea can sut through them like butter on a given day.
Yes it is ah fact that Barcelona have some defensive problems and Chelsea beat them in d Champions league 4-2,but lightining don't strike twice and on any given day Barcelona can beat any side in d World and to all the Real Madrid fans in hear who praisin Robinho,d El Clasico' is  Sunday 20 November in d Bernabeau,well see if Robinho in really a genius
Title: Parreira considers option of four-man attack
Post by: arrow on September 02, 2005, 04:27:33 AM
Parreira considers option of four-man attack

TERESOPOLIS, Brazil, Sept 2 (Reuters) - Brazil coach Carlos Alberto Parreira thinks it is still too early to say whether the world champions will continue to use four forwards during next year's World Cup.
Brazil won the Confederations Cup using the ultra-offensive line-up, with Adriano and Robinho playing in attack and Kaka and Ronaldinho behind them.
Parreira will repeat the system for Sunday's World Cup qualifier against Chile in Brasilia, when a win will guarantee them a place in Germany with two games to spare.
This time, Ronaldo, who was rested from the Confederations Cup, returns to partner Adriano in attack with Robinho and Kaka behind them. Ronaldinho is suspended.
'Having four forwards doesn't mean that you're going to score lots of goals in every game,' Parreira told reporters on Thursday.
'We hope it works against Chile so you can continue with this formation for a while longer, and, who knows, even until the World Cup.
'I'm not really looking beyond Sunday, but if it doesn't work, we'll have to change.
'We're virtually playing with four forwards and if they don't get it right, we're very vulnerable.'
Although the system worked well in Germany, it backfired badly during the World Cup qualifier against Argentina in Buenos Aires in June when Argentina scored three times in the first half on their way to an emphatic 3-1 win.
Brazil gained revenge by beating their neighbours 4-1 in the Confederations Cup final three weeks later.
Title: Re: Parreira considers option of four-man attack
Post by: JDB on September 02, 2005, 05:06:06 AM

'Having four forwards doesn't mean that you're going to score lots of goals in every game,' Parreira told reporters on Thursday.

'We're virtually playing with four forwards and if they don't get it right, we're very vulnerable.'
Although the system worked well in Germany, it backfired badly during the World Cup qualifier against Argentina in Buenos Aires in June when Argentina scored three times in the first half on their way to an emphatic 3-1 win.

Have a good read eh Marcos. And that is just four forwards he talking about. Yuh really think that the system would work better or be more reliable with your five forwards plus Diego.
Title: Re: Robinho lives up to the hype
Post by: Marcos on September 02, 2005, 08:07:25 AM
BETTER!!!!!!!
Wha small goal side could test dem
Title: Robinho too maga
Post by: Tallman on October 05, 2005, 09:11:22 AM
Real Madrid want a beefier Robinho
tribalfootball.com


Real Madrid coaching staff want star signing Robinho to PUT ON weight before they start him again in games.

Coach Vanderlei Luxemburgo and his backroom team believe Robinho is too lightweight for the rigours of European football and want to see him increase his weight from his 65kgs to 68kgs.

Robinho has admitted to Real coaches he is concerned that he hasn't been able to produce the sort of football that made him famous at Santos. The Brazilian has now been put on a strict weight training and diet program which Real staff expect to see positive results within a month.

Luxemburgo hinted at his concerns last week, admitting: "Robinho does not have a suitable physical base for European football. We want him to build himself up."
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Cowen on October 05, 2005, 10:17:31 AM
Densil Theobald could use that program too
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Observer on October 05, 2005, 10:44:35 AM
They should send him to Milan or Juv. dem have they own Lab known for that sort of thing  ;D
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: palos on October 05, 2005, 10:54:27 AM
Interesting....Raul wasn't much bigger than Robinho when he started playing for Real Madrid.  Matter of fact, Raul only put on some size as he got older which is normal for most human beings.
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 05, 2005, 11:12:34 AM
Juve is meh second favorite team, but they've been  under the microscope too many times for alleged banned drug use. Ah like the way Real protecting Robinho.  He is really a longterm investment, although his talent is already reaping dividends.  That is the part of the game that we are lagging behind.  There has got to be a better monitoring of the nutritional and physical development of our teams, starting at the grassroot level of the game.  The pro clubs need to start incorporating this into their respective programs by bringing such professionals on board at their clubs.
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: arrow on October 05, 2005, 11:23:58 AM
Why don't they just put him on the Ronaldo diet?  Stern did it and look at the results
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Coop's on October 05, 2005, 11:29:22 AM
Why don't they just put him on the Ronaldo diet?  Stern did it and look at the results
ha!ha!ha!!!!! all you good we,i want to get that diet.
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Observer on October 05, 2005, 11:40:27 AM
Interesting....Raul wasn't much bigger than Robinho when he started playing for Real Madrid.  Matter of fact, Raul only put on some size as he got older which is normal for most human beings.

Good point. I suspect they were talking about long term
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: morvant on October 05, 2005, 11:42:09 AM
ey ey leave fat boy stern alone.

member of stern for goals commitee
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Peong on October 05, 2005, 11:47:01 AM
There has got to be a better monitoring of the nutritional and physical development of our teams, starting at the grassroot level of the game.  The pro clubs need to start incorporating this into their respective programs by bringing such professionals on board at their clubs.

This wouldn't work in Trinidad.  It would mean men cah eat no doubles.
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 05, 2005, 04:53:42 PM
Peong allyuh good yes.
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: SHOTTA on October 05, 2005, 05:17:23 PM
at the time raul was thin the european leage wasnt as difficult
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: palos on October 05, 2005, 06:25:36 PM
at the time raul was thin the european leage wasnt as difficult

Please provide examples as to what you mean by "CL wasn't as difficult when Raul was thin".

Thanks.
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: duscam on October 05, 2005, 07:06:30 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: SHOTTA on October 05, 2005, 09:00:21 PM
Please provide examples as to what you mean by "CL wasn't as difficult when Raul was thin".

Im speaking of the style of football and the level of competition i think we both understand that foot ball has grown but do u think sum of yesteryears greats wud hav stood a chance in champions leage and wat nut today
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Ponnoxx on October 22, 2005, 04:50:54 PM
 I think T&T pro clubs should start lookin at nutritional programs for their players..it is very important
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: palos on October 22, 2005, 05:00:09 PM
Please provide examples as to what you mean by "CL wasn't as difficult when Raul was thin".

Im speaking of the style of football and the level of competition i think we both understand that foot ball has grown but do u think sum of yesteryears greats wud hav stood a chance in champions leage and wat nut today

I just have to give only one example to debunk that theory:

The AC Milan team of Baresi, Van Basten, Gullitt, Rijkaard, Donadoni etc would mash up most and more than likely ALL teams that currently play in world football today.

Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Jumbie on October 22, 2005, 05:42:58 PM
Please provide examples as to what you mean by "CL wasn't as difficult when Raul was thin".

Im speaking of the style of football and the level of competition i think we both understand that foot ball has grown but do u think sum of yesteryears greats wud hav stood a chance in champions leage and wat nut today

I just have to give only one example to debunk that theory:

The AC Milan team of Baresi, Van Basten, Gullitt, Rijkaard, Donadoni etc would mash up most and more than likely ALL teams that currently play in world football today.



Now dat was ah team... them boys from the orange was pure class.
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Ponnoxx on October 22, 2005, 09:50:19 PM
Please provide examples as to what you mean by "CL wasn't as difficult when Raul was thin".

Im speaking of the style of football and the level of competition i think we both understand that foot ball has grown but do u think sum of yesteryears greats wud hav stood a chance in champions leage and wat nut today

I just have to give only one example to debunk that theory:

The AC Milan team of Baresi, Van Basten, Gullitt, Rijkaard, Donadoni etc would mash up most and more than likely ALL teams that currently play in world football today.


Steups ...foolishness...old time dayz....football today is built on how to beat these teams...that is how it does evolve...there will always be a good team but someone will find a way to counteract them and voila a different style is born...to say they could beat anybody now is a bold statement..because all teams today have learnt from teams of the past ...
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Jay10 on October 22, 2005, 09:51:03 PM
In d first game of d Cl against Lyon, dem fellas was not holdin back on anyone, especially Robino.................i really felt sorry 4 him dat game..............he bounce back nice though.........good 2 c
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Jah Gol on October 22, 2005, 10:32:54 PM
I said this about Robinho before on this forum and certain men say is not basketball we talking bout. In the modern game iwhen you are that small you need to be able to collect a barage of fouls. There was no way Robinho was going to be absolutley world class in his first season in arguably the best league in the world. Give the lad some time.
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: palos on October 23, 2005, 02:36:58 PM
Steups ...foolishness...old time dayz....football today is built on how to beat these teams...that is how it does evolve...there will always be a good team but someone will find a way to counteract them and voila a different style is born...to say they could beat anybody now is a bold statement..because all teams today have learnt from teams of the past ...

No disrespeck eh....but  your statement above is among the most IGNORANT posts I have ever seen on this board.  Surprising in a sense because I sure you know yuh ball.  I eh go even boddah explain because I sure by now yuh figure it out.
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: troy piloy on October 23, 2005, 03:09:26 PM
I think T&T pro clubs should start lookin at nutritional programs for their players..it is very important
Great point Ponnoxx them pro league player real small .
Other than Tallest most of the local players when they go out side they does put on real size, in some cases to much
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: troy piloy on October 23, 2005, 03:10:33 PM
I think T&T pro clubs should start lookin at nutritional programs for their players..it is very important
Great point Ponnoxx them pro league player real small .
Other than Tallest most of the local players when they go out side they does put on real size, in some cases to much :rotfl:
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Tallman on October 23, 2005, 03:11:53 PM
He eh go remain maga fuh too long: Real Madrid given food for thought (http://www.fifa.com/en/development/medical/index/0,1233,110616,00.html?articleid=110616)
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: palos on October 23, 2005, 03:15:41 PM
He eh go remain maga fuh too long: Real Madrid given food for thought (http://www.fifa.com/en/development/medical/index/0,1233,110616,00.html?articleid=110616)

Oh gorm.....she could wuk me anytime. 
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: fari on October 23, 2005, 08:37:53 PM
he might be lil small -but that doesnt stop him from embarrassing men.  when he was in brazil a referee give him a card once for beating too much.  either way, now that he is a rich fella chances are that he wil bulk up some.

if all else fails i say send him to school in the southern US.  my freshmen year i put on 15 pounds after a healthy diet of fast food, fried deaders, grits and other assorted high oil, low taste cafeteria specials.   (i stop eating all them ting now tho)
Title: Re: Robinho too maga
Post by: Solo on October 23, 2005, 09:39:39 PM
I saw him in the match today and wondered why they weren't trying to give him more of the ball. De man just blowing past men easy or maybe deh just fraid to foul him or look stupid if he beat dem.

Didnt look like he was getting beaten up or tumbling down at all.
Title: What you think of Robinho?
Post by: Coop's on January 28, 2006, 04:47:03 PM
There was a lot of questions asked about Robinho when he joined Real Madrid,he too small,can't handle the physical rigours of the league,will not last etc what we think about him right now?
Title: Re: What you think of Robinho?
Post by: TrinInfinite on January 28, 2006, 05:33:31 PM
hes faster than ronaldo and has better dribblin ability and he is still young, he will be better, but he is smaller in size and strength, dis is his only downfall
Title: Re: What you think of Robinho?
Post by: jai john on January 28, 2006, 06:38:05 PM
hes faster than ronaldo and has better dribblin ability and he is still young, he will be better, but he is smaller in size and strength, dis is his only downfall

God point and maybe a lot of people who have already put the PELE mantle on him should give him some time to develop.
How many times we hear of another maradona or another Pele ?
My own take on him is that he is a good player and works hard but he is not special ! Messi is special and is much younger but even  I wont dub him the next maradona ...not yet  !
There will always be talk about Robinho and his size, a moot point as Bebeto, tigana, giresse,saviola,makelele,latapy and others have shown. if you are going to be the world's best you will find a way to overcome any disability you may have naturally.
Garrincha played with a deformity all his life yet remains in brazilian folklore as ' the little bird ' who when he took flight was unstoppable. he remains the most famous dribbler that brazil has ever produced.
Messi is just a few pounds heavier than Robinho and is even shorter and I dont hear people making excuses for his size.
the most impressive footballer from brazil for me is ronaldinho but the most dangerous is KAKA !! Noone takes him seriously but Pereira never picks a brazil team for a big game without his gifted midfielder.
Robinho is years away from the talent that KAKA now shows....when Brazil play well KAKA always seems to be greatly involved in the mix ...but few notice ..
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on January 28, 2006, 06:50:51 PM
AC MILAN  has noticed though because I was watching that program on fsc you know milan weekly or something like that and there was Van basten and Rui Costa talking about KAKA as the one to carry the number 10 jersey because he is the heir to that jersey althought Rui Costa currently wears it.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Jefferz on January 28, 2006, 06:51:11 PM
I think he is much better that Denilson, but he is missing the goalscoring touch. So far he is lacking the predatory instinct.

i agree.

thats robinho in a nut shell i'd think.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Coop's on January 28, 2006, 07:24:23 PM
Ivebeen wracking my brains and he reminds me of denilson loads of skill but you really dont know what youre gonna get out of him....i mean in comparison to his fellow brazilians what does he bring?...I mean with ronaldo you get goals a bunch with ronaldinho you get some goals and creative playmaking if you ask me in terms of pure goalscoring owen is better though he may not have the flash or skill of robinho he started 26 games last season and was on the bench alot and still scored 16 goals.....Im not convinced feel free to show me that im wrong otherwise...I think he is overrated like alot of todays present days football players.....i think players are coming out now at a younger age but not necessarily better than the decade or generation before....i do think though that rooney is a freak of nature he's going to be really good.

And here I was thinking you knew football.  My bad.   ;D

You'll just have to wait and see how the season unflolds.  I suspect you'll be changing your tune very shortly.


Aye Palos you are a Boss,you know what you was talking about,i think we see something some ppl don't.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Grande on January 28, 2006, 08:45:04 PM
I think he is much better that Denilson, but he is missing the goalscoring touch. So far he is lacking the predatory instinct.

i agree.

thats robinho in a nut shell i'd think.

Robinho has a sharper goalscoring touch and predatory instinct than Denilson, although I would say they are pretty much equal in dribbling skill. I looked at some of Robinho's games for Madrid and Brazil, he is coming into his own as a striker, he knows how to run at defenders, or to place himself for a defence-splitting pass. I thought he was all skill but with no end product too, but he's provin me wrong.
Brazil mostly used Denilson as ah substitute to kill off the clock with dribbling...ah remember five Turkey players couldn't get de ball off him in the last WC....or he is good for drawin fouls around de penalty area but other than that I wouldn't bet on Denilson scoring goals .
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Jefferz on January 28, 2006, 08:47:56 PM
well i never thought denilson was much of a goal scorer.

When he was playing i think he really prefered to run de ball true ah man legs rather than a man goal posts.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: jai john on January 28, 2006, 09:14:26 PM

Robinho has a sharper goalscoring touch and predatory instinct than Denilson, although I would say they are pretty much equal in dribbling skill. I looked at some of Robinho's games for Madrid and Brazil, he is coming into his own as a striker, he knows how to run at defenders, or to place himself for a defence-splitting pass. I thought he was all skill but with no end product too, but he's provin me wrong.
Brazil mostly used Denilson as ah substitute to kill off the clock with dribbling...ah remember five Turkey players couldn't get de ball off him in the last WC....or he is good for drawin fouls around de penalty area but other than that I wouldn't bet on Denilson scoring goals .
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I guess we down to deciding how good robinho is by comparing him with Denilson ??
denilson was a left footed winger. Robinho is a right footed foward. I guess that´s close enough  ????
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Grande on January 28, 2006, 09:17:31 PM

Robinho has a sharper goalscoring touch and predatory instinct than Denilson, although I would say they are pretty much equal in dribbling skill. I looked at some of Robinho's games for Madrid and Brazil, he is coming into his own as a striker, he knows how to run at defenders, or to place himself for a defence-splitting pass. I thought he was all skill but with no end product too, but he's provin me wrong.
Brazil mostly used Denilson as ah substitute to kill off the clock with dribbling...ah remember five Turkey players couldn't get de ball off him in the last WC....or he is good for drawin fouls around de penalty area but other than that I wouldn't bet on Denilson scoring goals .
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I guess we down to deciding how good robinho is by comparing him with Denilson ??
denilson was a left footed winger. Robinho is a right footed foward. I guess that´s close enough  ????

boss all i compare Robinho to Denilson with is dribbling skill, nuttin else.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Ponnoxx on January 29, 2006, 12:34:34 AM
 Robinho has gotten better...He is taking on more players...Scoring goals...Creating chanes...In the next 3 years chances are that he might be what Ronaldinho is today
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Jefferz on January 29, 2006, 12:38:43 AM

Robinho has a sharper goalscoring touch and predatory instinct than Denilson, although I would say they are pretty much equal in dribbling skill. I looked at some of Robinho's games for Madrid and Brazil, he is coming into his own as a striker, he knows how to run at defenders, or to place himself for a defence-splitting pass. I thought he was all skill but with no end product too, but he's provin me wrong.
Brazil mostly used Denilson as ah substitute to kill off the clock with dribbling...ah remember five Turkey players couldn't get de ball off him in the last WC....or he is good for drawin fouls around de penalty area but other than that I wouldn't bet on Denilson scoring goals .
Quote

I guess we down to deciding how good robinho is by comparing him with Denilson ??
denilson was a left footed winger. Robinho is a right footed foward. I guess that´s close enough  ????

boss all i compare Robinho to Denilson with is dribbling skill, nuttin else.

and in any case... rel fellahz are constantly comparing de two ah dem.


they both rel fan artists and they both are intense dribblers of the ball. Even some of ronaldinho's shit isnt quite as intense as those two.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: palos on January 29, 2006, 01:04:08 AM
Back in the day(2 or 3 years ago), when Robinho and Diego was de 2 hottest tings outta Brazil, Diego was considered to be the better of the 2.

Now Diego not even on Brazil senior team radar and Robinho is a starter on the National team.

Why?

Because Robinho is a much more "complete" footballer.  Because Robinho is a more naturally talented footballer.  But more than that, he is a more disciplined footballer.

In addition, anybody who compares Robinho and Denilson beyond the obvious step over dribbles is doing Robinho a grave injustice and obviously hasn't seen much more of Robinho than the odd highlight.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: ZionYouth on January 29, 2006, 02:07:00 AM
robinho is de new star fuh brazil allyuh doh get it confused,who yuh think takin over ronaldo spot next WC......
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: jai john on January 29, 2006, 06:31:35 AM
robinho is de new star fuh brazil allyuh doh get it confused,who yuh think takin over ronaldo spot next WC......

which WC is this ????
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: ZionYouth on January 29, 2006, 02:26:41 PM
2010 dread and robinho is ah left footed foward not right....  8)
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Grande on January 29, 2006, 02:28:54 PM
robinho is de new star fuh brazil allyuh doh get it confused,who yuh think takin over ronaldo spot next WC......

If is anybody to do that it is Adriano
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: kicker on January 29, 2006, 02:29:14 PM
2010 dread and robinho is ah left footed foward not right....  8)

Robinho is not left footed......
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: ZionYouth on January 29, 2006, 05:06:47 PM
sorry you're right kicker he is ah right footer but he still brazil upcoming best...
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: jai john on January 29, 2006, 06:11:40 PM
sorry you're right kicker he is ah right footer but he still brazil upcoming best...

Sure you´re not mistaken about that too ? Ronaldinho picked his world best 11 ( excluding Barcelona teammates ) and Robinho wasn´t on it ..but KAKA was !
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Filho on January 29, 2006, 06:15:41 PM
In addition, anybody who compares Robinho and Denilson beyond the obvious step over dribbles is doing Robinho a grave injustice and obviously hasn't seen much more of Robinho than the odd highlight.


i could say the same for Denilson. I am not comparig him to robinho. But he is a much more complete baller than the sub who came on in 2 WCs with obvious  instructions to just dribble. Just watch how he played for Brazil when he is a starter..Tournoi de France in 1998, the 1-2 loss to Norway in WC 1998, MVP award in Confed Cup '97, 2nd stint at Betis before his knee surgery.....I have watched him play enough to think he is an absolutely talented footballer.l...Robinho looks like he will develop better than Denilson...but to think that Denilson is only flam is basing your assessment on a few one dimensional performances that I am willing to bet were instructioons by his coach to just take men on
Title: nice lil clip of Robinho
Post by: Kingk on February 07, 2006, 07:41:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/w/Robinho?v=KsbGGlK5d24&search=Robinho
Title: Re: nice lil clip of Robinho
Post by: Pointman on February 07, 2006, 11:13:13 AM
Ribinho is ah genious...ah frighten for dem teams in Brazil's group.
Title: Re: nice lil clip of Robinho
Post by: grskywalker on February 07, 2006, 11:15:07 AM
one word
POISON
Title: Re: nice lil clip of Robinho
Post by: morvant on February 07, 2006, 11:16:37 AM
talk truth when yuh watch that yuh doh feel like ah shythound??
Title: Re: nice lil clip of Robinho
Post by: Jumbie on February 07, 2006, 11:20:44 AM
doh worry when we meet brazil in the final we have ah secret weapon for Mr. Rob.. namely... Cyd "zulu" gray!
Title: Re: nice lil clip of Robinho
Post by: Pointman on February 07, 2006, 11:23:23 AM
talk truth when yuh watch that yuh doh feel like ah shythound??

ah was already ah sh@thound  ;D ,dat jess make meh feel worse :beermug:
Title: Re: nice lil clip of Robinho
Post by: Pointman on February 07, 2006, 11:29:36 AM
doh worry when we meet brazil in the final we have ah secret weapon for Mr. Rob.. namely... Cyd "zulu" gray!

 ??? yuh eh really serious are you?
Title: Re: nice lil clip of Robinho
Post by: Observer on February 07, 2006, 01:47:37 PM
talk truth when yuh watch that yuh doh feel like ah shythound??

Me eh have to watch he to know I was a shithound  ;D
Title: Re: nice lil clip of Robinho
Post by: Mr Mc on February 07, 2006, 02:54:06 PM
HOT TO DEFEND AGAINST ROBINHO

1)Pretend to pull a hamstring, have the coach replace you with some other poor sap.
Title: Re: nice lil clip of Robinho
Post by: Kingk on February 08, 2006, 12:42:12 AM
HOT TO DEFEND AGAINST ROBINHO

1)Pretend to pull a hamstring, have the coach replace you with some other poor sap.

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: Grande on February 15, 2007, 01:35:43 PM
Ferguson monitoring Robinho situtation
Footballissue.com


Manchester United are among clubs to be closely following Robinho's struggles at Real Madrid.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is a big fan of the Brazil international winger and considered moving for the youngster while he was still with Santos over two years ago.

Robinho has been frozen out at Real this season under coach Fabio Capello and admitted yesterday that he may be forced to leave should the Italian continue next term.

Gazzetta dello Sport says United and AC Milan have already made contact with intermediaries over Robinho's availability and know the wing wizard can be signed for 17 million.
Title: Re: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: Cartman on February 15, 2007, 01:57:15 PM
and after he signs him he is gonna loan him to Sunderland  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: Mose on February 15, 2007, 01:58:29 PM
17 million sound like a bargain. Especially when yuh consider Chelsea pay dat fuh Glen Johnson.
Title: Re: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: Mose on February 15, 2007, 01:59:45 PM
and after he signs him he is gonna loan him to Sunderland  :rotfl: :rotfl:

Nah. Keano go give Giggs a call and get him to make de move. ;D
Title: Re: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: JayTheWrecker on February 15, 2007, 02:04:26 PM
17 million sound like a bargain. Especially when yuh consider Chelsea pay dat fuh Glen Johnson.

I'm not denying that Chelsea have paid well over the odds for most of our players, but i'm quite certain that we never paid 17 million for Glen Johnson or anything even approaching that figure. More like 5 or 6 million
Title: Re: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: Madd Ras#13 on February 15, 2007, 02:38:07 PM
17 million sound like a bargain. Especially when yuh consider Chelsea pay dat fuh Glen Johnson.

was 6 million chelsea pay fuh glen
Title: Re: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: Daft Trini on February 15, 2007, 02:54:36 PM
17 million sound like a bargain. Especially when yuh consider Chelsea pay dat fuh Glen Johnson.

was 6 million chelsea pay fuh glen

That was $5,500,000 too much  ;)
Title: Re: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: Mose on February 15, 2007, 03:01:46 PM
17 million sound like a bargain. Especially when yuh consider Chelsea pay dat fuh Glen Johnson.

I'm not denying that Chelsea have paid well over the odds for most of our players, but i'm quite certain that we never paid 17 million for Glen Johnson or anything even approaching that figure. More like 5 or 6 million

17 million sound like a bargain. Especially when yuh consider Chelsea pay dat fuh Glen Johnson.

was 6 million chelsea pay fuh glen

My bad. I could've sworn it was 17mil. Still feel dey pay way too much fuh him doh.
Title: Re: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: JDB on February 15, 2007, 09:40:53 PM
17 Million for Damien Duff, sold him for 5 million 3 years later.

20 million for SWP, can't get a sweat.

13 million for Paulo Ferreira, he benching behind a central midfielder (Geremi) in most games.

30 million for Shevchenko.....

...get the drift
Title: Re: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: Daft Trini on February 15, 2007, 10:35:23 PM
17 Million for Damien Duff, sold him for 5 million 3 years later.

20 million for SWP, can't get a sweat.

13 million for Paulo Ferreira, he benching behind a central midfielder (Geremi) in most games.

30 million for Shevchenko.....

...get the drift

That's 80 mil wasted hmmmm....... and yuh forget to add Ballack to that!
Title: Re: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: Grande on February 15, 2007, 11:23:24 PM
17 Million for Damien Duff, sold him for 5 million 3 years later.

20 million for SWP, can't get a sweat.

13 million for Paulo Ferreira, he benching behind a central midfielder (Geremi) in most games.

30 million for Shevchenko.....

...get the drift

That's 80 mil wasted hmmmm....... and yuh forget to add Ballack to that!

I think Ballack more or less settling well
Title: Re: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 16, 2007, 12:31:59 AM
Capello is proving to be a coach who's previous successes have made him insular and inflexible.  Real will lose more and more with this style of coaching...........



     don't other teams overstate the value of their players once Chelsea come around, sniffing out any of their players?  The prices that Chelsea have paid for some of their players have every bit as much to do with Abramovich's willingness to spend the money as it does with other teams playing hard ball with Chelsea.
Title: Re: Ferguson monitoring Robinho situation
Post by: Grande on February 16, 2007, 12:54:01 AM
Capello is proving to be a coach who's previous successes have made him insular and inflexible. Real will lose more and more with this style of coaching...........


I still waiting to see this big change in success Capello planning for Madrid. He could say what he want about Ronaldo, everybody knows he showed a proven goalscorer the door. That move may well come back to haunt him.

I suprised at the Robinho-Man Utd link...only way I can explain it is that C. Ronaldo might be making a move to Spain and Ferguson will need a left wing forward...cue Robinho

Title: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Jah Gol on February 27, 2007, 08:13:03 PM
Robinho can leave Real Madrid if a club is willing to meet the 18m asking price in the summer, according to the Brazilian player's agent.

Wagner Ribeiro revealed the amount after stating that the Spanish giants had rebuffed interest from AC Milan and Arsenal during the winter transfer window.

"Real Madrid refused and told me they did not want to sell him," Ribeiro told Radio Jovem Pan.

"At the moment, his situation is complicated and we must meet with Predrag Mijatovic in order to learn the intentions of the club for next season."

Madrid captured the 22-year-old from Gremio after prolonged negotiations in 2005 and he went on to make 51 appearances, in all competitions, last season.

Under Fabio Capello, however, he has not won a regular place in the side and the Italian is said to ahve informed the board that he can be moved on if the price is acceptable.

That price now appears to have been set and may well attract a host of interested club in the coming months.

"Surprisingly, the club are willing to let Robinho go for 18 million euros," Wagner stated.

Robinho may not have impressed Capello in January when he demanded that he be played or he would consider looking for another team to play for.

The Italian coach is never impressed by public outbursts and would not have looked kindly on the player going to the press to vent his frustration.

Despite completing just nine matches, the Brazilian international has only failed to appear in six games this term as Madrid have struggled to find any consistency.


http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=244050
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2007, 08:39:27 PM
seems man u has a new midfielder for the summer  :P 
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Trini Madness on February 27, 2007, 08:47:52 PM
 :waiting: liverpool...
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 27, 2007, 08:51:03 PM
:waiting: liverpool...

Yeah, Yeah.  Rafa yuh listening.  A lil trickery cyar hurt, but it would have to be at the expense of Garcia.
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2007, 08:59:14 PM
lol  :D we have a fight for a player, not sure if we will have Ronaldo next season so i think we taking Robinho, besides who wants to play for a club that cant win the premiership  ;)
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Trini Madness on February 27, 2007, 09:13:14 PM
lol :D we have a fight for a player, not sure if we will have Ronaldo next season so i think we taking Robinho, besides who wants to play for a club that cant win the premiership ;)

maybe not capable of winning the premiership but capable of winning Champions League.  :devil:
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: davidephraim on February 27, 2007, 09:14:44 PM
:waiting: liverpool...

Yeah, Yeah.  Rafa yuh listening.  A lil trickery cyar hurt, but it would have to be at the expense of Garcia.

nahnah.. robhino in Ballack out....  Joe cole and Robhino is better than 1 ballack
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: D.H.W on February 27, 2007, 09:26:27 PM
lol a Chelsea man in d bidding now for Robinho, doh fight it nah allyuh know u aint getting him d man want to play with a quality team  ;) like man u that does win trophy.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: triniairman on February 27, 2007, 11:13:12 PM
It will be rell trouble if he come MAN.U after all Giggs need someone with quality skill to take his position, imagine Ronaldo on the right Robinho on the left with Rooney and Torres up front. :challenge: :challenge: :praying:
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: rippin on February 27, 2007, 11:29:07 PM
I might be ignorant but for a player of his qulaity I find the price very reasonable.
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: andre samuel on February 28, 2007, 06:37:04 AM
Only 18 million euros?

Real Madrid mad?

Look how everybody going and bid for him......i am sure that the bidding will climb to over 25 million Euros. (maybe that is de intention)

ah love it!!

Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Papasmurf on February 28, 2007, 06:39:47 AM
Madrid gone insane.
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Pointman on February 28, 2007, 07:30:45 AM
:waiting: liverpool...

Robinho eh ready for the prem  :D
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Ngozi on February 28, 2007, 09:38:57 AM
I prefer him to that ball ho christiano anyday
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: SHOTTA on February 28, 2007, 09:45:32 AM
united going an take robinho and 15mill euros in the summer then buy eto and go for the prem double

so it be written so it be done
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: D.H.W on February 28, 2007, 09:53:25 AM
I prefer him to that ball ho christiano anyday
lol for real, but you u like it when he score goal eh, is a love hate relationship
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Toppa on February 28, 2007, 10:30:55 AM
Madrid gone insane.

Fuh real.  >:( Dey moving grimey boy, way.
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: whistler91 on February 28, 2007, 11:33:23 AM
:waiting: liverpool...

Robinho eh ready for the prem :D
u nuh serious wid dat comment
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Ngozi on February 28, 2007, 02:31:24 PM
I prefer him to that ball ho christiano anyday
lol for real, but you u like it when he score goal eh, is a love hate relationship
Christiano ronaldo is a skilful but dunce player I doh like dunce players...I like the decos the zidanes the latapy's players with vision not dribble dribble until a  man kick yuh down I thought potential wise when he was younger  he'd develop...still playing an immature brand...and the fact that everybody thinking he is all dat will make him continue in that mold
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: kicker on February 28, 2007, 03:41:45 PM
Madrid is slowly getting rid of players who have any skill & flare- Not the Madrid that I love.... :'(
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: doh_stick on February 28, 2007, 04:05:50 PM
Madrid is slowly getting rid of players who have any skill & flare- Not the Madrid that I love.... :'(

dey go start looking/playing like an epl team...
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: JW on February 28, 2007, 04:46:41 PM
Its a well known fact that Robinho's family are all from Marley Potts and Red&White to the core.

Expect to see him turning out at the Stadium of Light next season.  Nailed on FACT!

 ;)
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Pointman on February 28, 2007, 06:08:54 PM
Madrid is slowly getting rid of players who have any skill & flare- Not the Madrid that I love.... :'(

dey go start looking/playing like an epl team...

best league in the world ;D
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Jah Gol on February 28, 2007, 06:15:55 PM
Madrid is slowly getting rid of players who have any skill & flare- Not the Madrid that I love.... :'(

dey go start looking/playing like an epl team...

best league in the world ;D
I see you put a ;D to indicate that you aren't being serious. Good one.
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Pointman on February 28, 2007, 06:39:20 PM
Madrid is slowly getting rid of players who have any skill & flare- Not the Madrid that I love.... :'(

dey go start looking/playing like an epl team...

best league in the world ;D

I see you put a ;D to indicate that you aren't being serious. Good one.

actually I'm VERY serious!!  :) :beermug:
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: deltatau14 on February 28, 2007, 07:08:14 PM
 Christiano ronaldo is a skilful but dunce player I doh like dunce players...I like the decos the zidanes the latapy's players with vision not dribble dribble until a  man kick yuh down I thought potential wise when he was younger  he'd develop...still playing an immature brand...and the fact that everybody thinking he is all dat will make him continue in that mold
Quote

yeah man, he real duncy boy, second leading scorer in de prem and his squad is number one, and every team in the world that is as prestigious as man U want him (barca & real) I guess dunciness is the factor by which de standards are set in todays top class game.
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: jai john on February 28, 2007, 07:20:52 PM
Christiano ronaldo is a skilful but dunce player I doh like dunce players...I like the decos the zidanes the latapy's players with vision not dribble dribble until a man kick yuh down I thought potential wise when he was younger he'd develop...still playing an immature brand...and the fact that everybody thinking he is all dat will make him continue in that mold
Quote

yeah man, he real duncy boy, second leading scorer in de prem and his squad is number one, and every team in the world that is as prestigious as man U want him (barca & real) I guess dunciness is the factor by which de standards are set in todays top class game.

Ah think you just mash up de man dere  :devil:
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: jai john on February 28, 2007, 07:30:35 PM
wasnt he  the next Pele ? What a difference a year makes ...just look at Forlan, adriano, Baptista , Chelsea million $ foward ..ah kyah even remember his name now ... ..... Players need to play where they are suited ..... cantona didnt settle until he came to united and Messi seems to be struggling now ....
i wish him well.... he was king in Brazil....now  ??
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Trini Madness on February 28, 2007, 07:43:07 PM
Christiano ronaldo is a skilful but dunce player I doh like dunce players...I like the decos the zidanes the latapy's players with vision not dribble dribble until a man kick yuh down I thought potential wise when he was younger he'd develop...still playing an immature brand...and the fact that everybody thinking he is all dat will make him continue in that mold
Quote

yeah man, he real duncy boy, second leading scorer in de prem and his squad is number one, and every team in the world that is as prestigious as man U want him (barca & real) I guess dunciness is the factor by which de standards are set in todays top class game.

i'd rather quaresma than cristiano
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: SUPA on February 28, 2007, 09:25:15 PM
Like ah Brazilian f**k de coach woman ah what? He only letting go all dem world class Brazilian players, wah do dah boi >:( . We here is Barca fans, we eh no Madrid fan, but ah big player must be respected by all, and we respect Robinho. Mr keane, start talking tuh yuh boss, fuh him tuh open up dat check book. Robinho, Yorke, Edawards, Stern and Stokes doing de business fuh Sunderland in de EPL next season, nice nice, nice. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: andre samuel on March 01, 2007, 09:56:14 AM
Its a well known fact that Robinho's family are all from Marley Potts and Red&White to the core.

Expect to see him turning out at the Stadium of Light next season.  Nailed on FACT!

 ;)

ah love it!!
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: TRUwarrior on March 01, 2007, 11:02:31 AM
Christiano ronaldo is a skilful but dunce player I doh like dunce players...I like the decos the zidanes the latapy's players with vision not dribble dribble until a man kick yuh down I thought potential wise when he was younger he'd develop...still playing an immature brand...and the fact that everybody thinking he is all dat will make him continue in that mold
Quote

yeah man, he real duncy boy, second leading scorer in de prem and his squad is number one, and every team in the world that is as prestigious as man U want him (barca & real) I guess dunciness is the factor by which de standards are set in todays top class game.

yea...yuh mash him up....the biggest dunce surely up for fifa world player of the year :beermug:
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 01, 2007, 11:48:30 AM
 :thinking:  Ah wonder how he go look in a Chelsea uniform boy? :devil:
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Toppa on March 01, 2007, 03:33:35 PM
Like ah Brazilian f**k de coach woman ah what? He only letting go all dem world class Brazilian players, wah do dah boi >:( . We here is Barca fans, we eh no Madrid fan, but ah big player must be respected by all, and we respect Robinho. Mr keane, start talking tuh yuh boss, fuh him tuh open up dat check book. Robinho, Yorke, Edawards, Stern and Stokes doing de business fuh Sunderland in de EPL next season, nice nice, nice. HIGHLY BLESSED.

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Ngozi on March 01, 2007, 03:40:08 PM
Christiano ronaldo is a skilful but dunce player I doh like dunce players...I like the decos the zidanes the latapy's players with vision not dribble dribble until a man kick yuh down I thought potential wise when he was younger he'd develop...still playing an immature brand...and the fact that everybody thinking he is all dat will make him continue in that mold
Quote

yeah man, he real duncy boy, second leading scorer in de prem and his squad is number one, and every team in the world that is as prestigious as man U want him (barca & real) I guess dunciness is the factor by which de standards are set in todays top class game.

One of these days when yuh grow up you'll understand is not all about stats fella...watch some zidane videos you might learn something ...but in your case...hmm yuh might not
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on March 01, 2007, 04:31:19 PM
Like ah Brazilian f**k de coach woman ah what? He only letting go all dem world class Brazilian players, wah do dah boi >:( . We here is Barca fans, we eh no Madrid fan, but ah big player must be respected by all, and we respect Robinho. Mr keane, start talking tuh yuh boss, fuh him tuh open up dat check book. Robinho, Yorke, Edawards, Stern and Stokes doing de business fuh Sunderland in de EPL next season, nice nice, nice. HIGHLY BLESSED.

No disrespect eh SUPA but what kinda grade you smokin dey?  Them cyar offer he enuff money to play fuh dem.
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: labi on March 01, 2007, 04:59:44 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS>>>I GLADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.....ROBINHO DESREVE BETTER..ITS TIME 2 LEAVE SON, SOMEBODY ELSE GONNA LUV YA MORE n APPRECIATE UNUSUAL TALENT
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Pointman on March 02, 2007, 03:10:28 PM
wasnt he the next Pele ? What a difference a year makes ...just look at Forlan, adriano, Baptista , Chelsea million $ foward ..ah kyah even remember his name now ... ..... Players need to play where they are suited ..... cantona didnt settle until he came to united and Messi seems to be struggling now ....
i wish him well.... he was king in Brazil....now ??


It's all about the money baby.
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Pointman on March 02, 2007, 03:12:43 PM
Like ah Brazilian f**k de coach woman ah what? He only letting go all dem world class Brazilian players, wah do dah boi >:( . We here is Barca fans, we eh no Madrid fan, but ah big player must be respected by all, and we respect Robinho. Mr keane, start talking tuh yuh boss, fuh him tuh open up dat check book. Robinho, Yorke, Edawards, Stern and Stokes doing de business fuh Sunderland in de EPL next season, nice nice, nice. HIGHLY BLESSED.

 ;D ::)

Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: banton on March 03, 2007, 04:19:14 AM
europeans call ronaldo' king of the stepovers ' they are so limited wasnt robinho the on who did 9 fan on the corithians player .....yes it was i have it on my phone >:(


the all time master of the stepover is DENILSON (60 in 60) :)
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Jah Gol on March 03, 2007, 12:46:04 PM
Robinho In For Immediate Santos Return 


The Brazilian forward's agent has revealed that a return to Santos is a possibility.

Robinho has been unsettled at Madrid of late, and talks of a move away in the summer have done the rounds since his fall-out with Fabio Capello.

The problem with a move across Europe, of course, is that it will have to wait for the summer.

However, in what could be a big twist to the whole saga, he could return to Santos on loan immediately, and come back to the Bernabeu in August at the end of the Brazilian season.

A decision on his long term future can then be taken, depending on the wishes of the (very likely new) coach.

All that, however, now depends on Pedja Mijatovic giving the go-ahead, and the player's agent hinted towards as much.

"I have read in the press that Real Madrid want to sell him at the end of the season for 18 million euros (12m)," Vagner Ribeiro told O Globo.

"If that is the case I would like Pedja [Mijatovic, Real sporting director] to say so."

"I have offers from three Brazilian clubs for an immediate loan to the Brazilian loan until the start of competition in Europe. One is in Rio de Janeiro, one in Sao Paulo and another in Belo Horizonte."

Apart from Santos, Cruzeiro, Flamengo and Fluminense are said to be in the fray.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=247564
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: Jah Gol on March 03, 2007, 12:47:28 PM
Robinho belongs in a side like Barca. He needs to be free on the park.
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: breezers on March 03, 2007, 08:31:00 PM
Robinho belongs in a side like Barca. He needs to be free on the park.

Well said!! I would love to have him at de camp nou...ah hope Dinho try ah thing and chain him up tuh come tru! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Madrid Set Robinho Price
Post by: SUPA on March 04, 2007, 09:39:40 PM
Like ah Brazilian f**k de coach woman ah what? He only letting go all dem world class Brazilian players, wah do dah boi >:( . We here is Barca fans, we eh no Madrid fan, but ah big player must be respected by all, and we respect Robinho. Mr keane, start talking tuh yuh boss, fuh him tuh open up dat check book. Robinho, Yorke, Edawards, Stern and Stokes doing de business fuh Sunderland in de EPL next season, nice nice, nice. HIGHLY BLESSED.

No disrespect eh SUPA but what kinda grade you smokin dey? Them cyar offer he enuff money to play fuh dem.

Oh gawd Jersey, yuh actually take Supa serious wid dat one, is joke we making meh boi, we know his price tag will be 2 high fuh Sunderland. Wahapen leh we dream ah lil bit fuh we 3 Trinis and Sunderland nah  ;)  ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: Toppa on July 06, 2007, 11:39:32 AM
They better back off!

http://www.fansfc.com/frontpage/frontpagenews.asp?newsid=169580

06:48 July, 6, 2007
Arsenal Football Club are willing to let Jose Antonio Reyes move to Real Madrid on a permanent basis yet they want Robinho in exchange.

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The Bernabeu club were initially reluctant to sign Reyes on a permanent deal following a disappointing loan spell, yet his two goals won Los Merengues La Liga title on the final day.

This has led to Real wanting to sign the Spaniard for around 8million, yet Arsene Wenger will sanction this only if he can loan Robinho for next season with the option of a 10million transfer next summer.

The Brazilian striker has been in fine form in the current Copa America tournament in Venezuela, where he has scored four time in three games to fire his nation to the last eight.



Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: jr sams on July 06, 2007, 11:58:13 AM
real coin have to pass to entice Robinho....one would imagine.
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: kingdavid on July 06, 2007, 12:34:31 PM
that not goin to happen so they could forget it
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 06, 2007, 01:07:37 PM
They better back off!


What did I say to on FB the yesterday. Would a supporter say that
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: redtrinigirl on July 06, 2007, 01:11:59 PM
Hey, Gilberto is at Arsenal, and every match Brazil play in the UK lately has been at Arsenal. Money is not the be all and end all for some people. It's not a matter of him wanting to go, rather will Real let him go, and for how much.

As a lover of both Brazil and Arsenal, I'm all for it  ;D
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: Jahyouth on July 06, 2007, 01:21:25 PM
 :praying:
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: Touches on July 06, 2007, 01:22:22 PM
Dat ent helping we

We need a central midfielder with Steel to Blade Men.

A Central defender with experience

and a proven Striker who could pot....we ent need no kinda beat and fan small fry.

See a Drogba or a Berbatov...dais the kinda man yuh need.

Under all kicks......watch Newcastle quiet quiet buying up some quality players like Viduka and Barton...they could shock Spurs and Arsenal for a 4th place.

I ent feel Robinho cut out to make this squad...I feel he go flop like the beast.

Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: palos on July 06, 2007, 01:25:10 PM
Dat ent helping we

We need a central midfielder with Steel to Blade Men.

A Central defender with experience

and a proven Striker who could pot....we ent need no kinda beat and fan small fry.

See a Drogba or a Berbatov...dais the kinda man yuh need.

Under all kicks......watch Newcastle quiet quiet buying up some quality players like Viduka and Barton...they could shock Spurs and Arsenal for a 4th place.

I ent feel Robinho cut out to make this squad...I feel he go flop like the beast.



Yuh is meh padnah....but yuh torkin level TATA dey!  ::)
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: Mr Mc on July 06, 2007, 01:33:34 PM
Dat ent helping we

We need a central midfielder with Steel to Blade Men.

A Central defender with experience

and a proven Striker who could pot....we ent need no kinda beat and fan small fry.

See a Drogba or a Berbatov...dais the kinda man yuh need.

Under all kicks......watch Newcastle quiet quiet buying up some quality players like Viduka and Barton...they could shock Spurs and Arsenal for a 4th place.

I ent feel Robinho cut out to make this squad...I feel he go flop like the beast.



the kinda ball Arsenal does knock, real pretty pretty, Robinho go fit right in...just that is not what will put goals in the back of the net, but it look nice doh!
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: Toppa on July 06, 2007, 01:44:05 PM
They better back off!


What did I say to on FB the yesterday. Would a supporter say that

Oh, this is you. But yeah, on my facebok page you'd notice that I'm a supporter of REAL MADRID and a FOLLOWER of Arsenal...not the other way around. OK?
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: dwn on July 07, 2007, 03:35:13 PM
We need a central midfielder with Steel to Blade Men.

To replace who though - Gilberto or Fabregas? Diaby look like he coming into his own. If he can slot into the central role he could be the answer. Then it also have Denilson.

A Central defender with experience

That's what I been saying a long time. Arsenal need's better cover for Gallas and Toure. Dont have the faith in Senderos. Djourou have some potential but he have a ways to go.

and a proven Striker who could pot....we ent need no kinda beat and fan small fry.

See a Drogba or a Berbatov...dais the kinda man yuh need.

Hoping Eduardo Da Silva is the answer cause I dont really know anything about him. Arsenal need a player like Van Nistelrooy or a Crespo - a pure finisher.

Under all kicks......watch Newcastle quiet quiet buying up some quality players like Viduka and Barton...they could shock Spurs and Arsenal for a 4th place.

I ent feel Robinho cut out to make this squad...I feel he go flop like the beast.

I figure Robinho will be better than Baptista was but I agree that I dont think that he should be a priority for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: dwn on July 07, 2007, 03:44:07 PM
According to this report Arsenal are willing to sell Fabregas if they can get Robinho.

Would Arsenal Accept Cash For Reyes And Cesc Together?

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=346475

Hot on the heels of Cesc's agent declaring that he'd had no contact with Real Madrid, some reports now indicate that Arsenal are willing to sell the star midfielder along with Jose Antonio Reyes.

Spanish sports newspaper Marca claims that Arsenal would consider a bid in the region of 40 million euros (27m) from Real Madrid for the services of Francesc Fabregas and Jose Antonio Reyes.

Reyes, of course, spent much of last season on loan at the Bernabeu as a winger, while incoming coach Bernd Schuster is a reported fan of Cesc, a central midfield playmaker.

Cesc's agent has denied having any contact with Madrid, but that hasn't stopped Marca from speculating that Cesc could yet leave the Emirates as part of a two-fer deal involving Reyes.

As reported earlier, Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger would apparently only countenance a solo deal for Cesc if Brazilian star Robinho came to North London in a swap deal. This seems highly unlikely at present.
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: Grande on July 07, 2007, 05:45:28 PM
I ent feel Robinho cut out to make this squad...I feel he go flop like the beast.


I eh know why people does say de Beast flop...he play alright to me. He wasn't spectacular, but he sure ain't flop.
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: JDB on July 08, 2007, 10:25:26 AM
and a proven Striker who could pot....we ent need no kinda beat and fan small fry.

See a Drogba or a Berbatov...dais the kinda man yuh need.

Hoping Eduardo Da Silva is the answer cause I dont really know anything about him. Arsenal need a player like Van Nistelrooy or a Crespo - a pure finisher.

By all reports he is a finisher in the Crespo mold.
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: andre samuel on July 08, 2007, 10:50:01 AM

See a Drogba or a Berbatov...dais the kinda man yuh need.

Under all kicks......watch Newcastle quiet quiet buying up some quality players like Viduka and Barton...they could shock Spurs and Arsenal for a 4th place.


Newcastle? The side to watch out for will be West Ham! Also, given his (Sven) reputation, look out for a resurgence at ManCity!!

ah love it!!
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: Grande on July 08, 2007, 10:57:47 AM
Also, given his (Sven) reputation, look out for a resurgence at ManCity!!

ah love it!!

andre samuel please elaborate on dis comment cause like I doh understand it
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: andre samuel on July 08, 2007, 11:33:24 AM
Also, given his (Sven) reputation, look out for a resurgence at ManCity!!

ah love it!!

andre samuel please elaborate on dis comment cause like I doh understand it

No probs, i will enlighten you,

Sven Goran Eriksson

1979-82: IFK Gothenburg
Swedish Cup Winners 1979
Swedish League Champions 1981
Swedish League Champions 1982
UEFA Cup Winners 1982

1982-84: SL Benfica
Portuguese League Champions 1983
Portuguese League Champions 1984
Portuguese Cup Winners 1983

1984-87: AS Roma
Italian Cup Winners 1986

1989-92: SL Benfica
Portuguese League Champions 1991

1992-97: Sampdoria UC
Italian Cup Winners 1994

1997-2000: SS Lazio
Italian Cup Winners 1998
Italian Super Cup Winners 1998
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Winners 1999
UEFA Super Cup Winners 1999
Italian League Champions 2000

Record with England (Competitive)

Played 38
Won 26
Drawn 9
Lost 3

Record with England Friendly

Played 29
Won 14
Drawn 8
Lost 7

Grande, dont let the English media fool you, Sven was the best thing to ever happen to England.

His losses were to Brazil in the quarters in WC 2002, a penalty kick loss to Portugal in the quarters in Euro 2004 and a penalty kick loss in the quarters to Portugal again in WC 2006.

So with this information, i repeat, given his (sven) reputation, watch out for ManCity!!

ah love it!!

Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on July 08, 2007, 11:51:47 AM
Also, given his (Sven) reputation, look out for a resurgence at ManCity!!

ah love it!!

andre samuel please elaborate on dis comment cause like I doh understand it

No probs, i will enlighten you,

Sven Goran Eriksson

1979-82: IFK Gothenburg
Swedish Cup Winners 1979
Swedish League Champions 1981
Swedish League Champions 1982
UEFA Cup Winners 1982

1982-84: SL Benfica
Portuguese League Champions 1983
Portuguese League Champions 1984
Portuguese Cup Winners 1983

1984-87: AS Roma
Italian Cup Winners 1986

1989-92: SL Benfica
Portuguese League Champions 1991

1992-97: Sampdoria UC
Italian Cup Winners 1994

1997-2000: SS Lazio
Italian Cup Winners 1998
Italian Super Cup Winners 1998
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Winners 1999
UEFA Super Cup Winners 1999
Italian League Champions 2000

Record with England (Competitive)

Played 38
Won 26
Drawn 9
Lost 3

Record with England Friendly

Played 29
Won 14
Drawn 8
Lost 7

Grande, dont let the English media fool you, Sven was the best thing to ever happen to England.

His losses were to Brazil in the quarters in WC 2002, a penalty kick loss to Portugal in the quarters in Euro 2004 and a penalty kick loss in the quarters to Portugal again in WC 2006.

So with this information, i repeat, given his (sven) reputation, watch out for ManCity!!

ah love it!!



Thanks Andre, I didn't know that the man had a nice looking record like that.  I know he had to be worth something fuh England to keep him on that long and like you stated there, yeah he has a good record with them althought no silverware but other than that his resume good.
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: kicker on July 08, 2007, 03:16:33 PM
I ent feel Robinho cut out to make this squad....

Robinho was pivotal in helping Real Madrid to the Spanish title- had a very big season, and up until last night was carrying Brazil on his shoulders in the Copa America..

Not sure how you come up with the assessment that he isn't cut out to play for the 4th place team in England- Other than Henry- who is no longer at Arsenal, there is no player on the gunners roster who is in a different class than Robinho...

He might have to change up his game a bit- a little less dance and a lil more brawn....If yuh think his game as is, is unsuited to the league, and you don't think he can adjust, then you might have a point, but not cut out to make the squad ?

- a lil perplexing  ???
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: Marcos on July 08, 2007, 05:42:37 PM
Plus, from what I've seen, he's still leading the Copa America in scoring...with some clinical finishes to boot
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: SOBRIQUET on July 08, 2007, 05:59:34 PM
I ent feel Robinho cut out to make this squad....

Robinho was pivotal in helping Real Madrid to the Spanish title- had a very big season, and up until last night was carrying Brazil on his shoulders in the Copa America..

Not sure how you come up with the assessment that he isn't cut out to play for the 4th place team in England- Other than Henry- who is no longer at Arsenal, there is no player on the gunners roster who is in a different class than Robinho...

He might have to change up his game a bit- a little less dance and a lil more brawn....If yuh think his game as is, is unsuited to the league, and you don't think he can adjust, then you might have a point, but not cut out to make the squad ?

- a lil perplexing ???

kicker, doe study dem. Arsenal fans still living in the past (5 years ago) when they had a bomb squad. If man like adebayor, hleb and da silva could make that squad, who is Robinho? arsenal fans lost oui...
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: Jahyouth on July 08, 2007, 09:12:45 PM
I ent feel Robinho cut out to make this squad....

Robinho was pivotal in helping Real Madrid to the Spanish title- had a very big season, and up until last night was carrying Brazil on his shoulders in the Copa America..

Not sure how you come up with the assessment that he isn't cut out to play for the 4th place team in England- Other than Henry- who is no longer at Arsenal, there is no player on the gunners roster who is in a different class than Robinho...

He might have to change up his game a bit- a little less dance and a lil more brawn....If yuh think his game as is, is unsuited to the league, and you don't think he can adjust, then you might have a point, but not cut out to make the squad ?

- a lil perplexing ???

kicker, doe study dem. Arsenal fans still living in the past (5 years ago) when they had a bomb squad. If man like adebayor, hleb and da silva could make that squad, who is Robinho? arsenal fans lost oui...

who was your team 5 years ago Sobriquet?  Knowing you I sure it wasn't Chelsea.  Is only Abramovich millions make you a Chelsea supporter.

Every World Cup is ah new team yuh backing.
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: SHOTTA on July 09, 2007, 08:15:48 AM
ALLYUH DOH STUDY ANDRE

he jus wanna set up man to choose a seta man city players in fantasy league so he go win easy this year

by the way where is it mr. samuel??
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: SOBRIQUET on July 09, 2007, 08:33:48 AM
I ent feel Robinho cut out to make this squad....

Robinho was pivotal in helping Real Madrid to the Spanish title- had a very big season, and up until last night was carrying Brazil on his shoulders in the Copa America..

Not sure how you come up with the assessment that he isn't cut out to play for the 4th place team in England- Other than Henry- who is no longer at Arsenal, there is no player on the gunners roster who is in a different class than Robinho...

He might have to change up his game a bit- a little less dance and a lil more brawn....If yuh think his game as is, is unsuited to the league, and you don't think he can adjust, then you might have a point, but not cut out to make the squad ?

- a lil perplexing ???

kicker, doe study dem. Arsenal fans still living in the past (5 years ago) when they had a bomb squad. If man like adebayor, hleb and da silva could make that squad, who is Robinho? arsenal fans lost oui...

who was your team 5 years ago Sobriquet? Knowing you I sure it wasn't Chelsea. Is only Abramovich millions make you a Chelsea supporter.

Every World Cup is ah new team yuh backing.

Whey Jahyouth. seems like any question/comment i ask, ur answer always pertains to my allegiance to my squad. i is chelsea thru and thru. after wenger and fabregas ride next year, we will see who u supportin. so the question at hand is; do u think Robinho could make that "tough" arsenal starting 11?
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: Jahyouth on July 09, 2007, 09:17:45 AM
I ent feel Robinho cut out to make this squad....

Robinho was pivotal in helping Real Madrid to the Spanish title- had a very big season, and up until last night was carrying Brazil on his shoulders in the Copa America..

Not sure how you come up with the assessment that he isn't cut out to play for the 4th place team in England- Other than Henry- who is no longer at Arsenal, there is no player on the gunners roster who is in a different class than Robinho...

He might have to change up his game a bit- a little less dance and a lil more brawn....If yuh think his game as is, is unsuited to the league, and you don't think he can adjust, then you might have a point, but not cut out to make the squad ?

- a lil perplexing ???

kicker, doe study dem. Arsenal fans still living in the past (5 years ago) when they had a bomb squad. If man like adebayor, hleb and da silva could make that squad, who is Robinho? arsenal fans lost oui...

who was your team 5 years ago Sobriquet? Knowing you I sure it wasn't Chelsea. Is only Abramovich millions make you a Chelsea supporter.

Every World Cup is ah new team yuh backing.

Whey Jahyouth. seems like any question/comment i ask, ur answer always pertains to my allegiance to my squad. i is chelsea thru and thru. after wenger and fabregas ride next year, we will see who u supportin. so the question at hand is; do u think Robinho could make that "tough" arsenal starting 11?

I doh switch teams like draws horse.  Is one team I backing years now, and iis one team I go be backing in the years to come.  If we could get $32 million for Fabregas from Real I say take it.  Leh we rebuild we squad.  Nobody eh worth that much.

Wha you have to study is who you backing after Chelsea start to sputter in a few years after Abramovich gone.  Look for a team from now yuh know.    :beermug:
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: SOBRIQUET on July 09, 2007, 10:29:17 AM
I ent feel Robinho cut out to make this squad....

Robinho was pivotal in helping Real Madrid to the Spanish title- had a very big season, and up until last night was carrying Brazil on his shoulders in the Copa America..

Not sure how you come up with the assessment that he isn't cut out to play for the 4th place team in England- Other than Henry- who is no longer at Arsenal, there is no player on the gunners roster who is in a different class than Robinho...

He might have to change up his game a bit- a little less dance and a lil more brawn....If yuh think his game as is, is unsuited to the league, and you don't think he can adjust, then you might have a point, but not cut out to make the squad ?

- a lil perplexing ???

kicker, doe study dem. Arsenal fans still living in the past (5 years ago) when they had a bomb squad. If man like adebayor, hleb and da silva could make that squad, who is Robinho? arsenal fans lost oui...

who was your team 5 years ago Sobriquet? Knowing you I sure it wasn't Chelsea. Is only Abramovich millions make you a Chelsea supporter.

Every World Cup is ah new team yuh backing.

Whey Jahyouth. seems like any question/comment i ask, ur answer always pertains to my allegiance to my squad. i is chelsea thru and thru. after wenger and fabregas ride next year, we will see who u supportin. so the question at hand is; do u think Robinho could make that "tough" arsenal starting 11?

I doh switch teams like draws horse. Is one team I backing years now, and iis one team I go be backing in the years to come. If we could get $32 million for Fabregas from Real I say take it. Leh we rebuild we squad. Nobody eh worth that much.

Wha you have to study is who you backing after Chelsea start to sputter in a few years after Abramovich gone. Look for a team from now yuh know. :beermug:

yuh realize, yuh still aint answer the Robinho question?
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: dumpalewie on July 09, 2007, 09:00:49 PM
I ent feel Robinho cut out to make this squad....

Robinho was pivotal in helping Real Madrid to the Spanish title- had a very big season, and up until last night was carrying Brazil on his shoulders in the Copa America..

Not sure how you come up with the assessment that he isn't cut out to play for the 4th place team in England- Other than Henry- who is no longer at Arsenal, there is no player on the gunners roster who is in a different class than Robinho...

He might have to change up his game a bit- a little less dance and a lil more brawn....If yuh think his game as is, is unsuited to the league, and you don't think he can adjust, then you might have a point, but not cut out to make the squad ?

- a lil perplexing ???

kicker, doe study dem. Arsenal fans still living in the past (5 years ago) when they had a bomb squad. If man like adebayor, hleb and da silva could make that squad, who is Robinho? arsenal fans lost oui...

who was your team 5 years ago Sobriquet? Knowing you I sure it wasn't Chelsea. Is only Abramovich millions make you a Chelsea supporter.

Every World Cup is ah new team yuh backing.
Man calling you out boy!!! :devil: :devil: :devil:

Fuh real though why are you all so concerned with Arsenal? ???
Title: Re: Arsenal turn their attentions to Robinho
Post by: ballpiyong on July 10, 2007, 11:27:02 AM
Ha Ha, Arsenal has the same chance of this as also getting Drogba, Christiano ronaldo, Essien and Steven Gerard>>>>>>>>NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
Title: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: Coach on July 31, 2007, 08:09:20 PM
I know that Real Madrid was thinking about moving Robinho to Italy. Man U should have gone after Robinho instead of Tevez. I will take Robinho on my team before Tevez easily.
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: Filho on July 31, 2007, 08:16:21 PM
I know that Real Madrid was thinking about moving Robinho to Italy. Man U should have gone after Robinho instead of Tevez. I will take Robinho on my team before Tevez easily.

Physically, Tevez seems more up to the challenge and he's proven that he can excel in the EPL. He'd be less of a risk than Robinho after proving himself at West Ham. In that regard, EPL teams would covet Tevez over Robinho....I think.
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: Tenorsaw on July 31, 2007, 08:30:46 PM
I know that Real Madrid was thinking about moving Robinho to Italy. Man U should have gone after Robinho instead of Tevez. I will take Robinho on my team before Tevez easily.

Physically, Tevez seems more up to the challenge and he's proven that he can excel in the EPL. He'd be less of a risk than Robinho after proving himself at West Ham. In that regard, EPL teams would covet Tevez over Robinho....I think.

Well said, Filho.  i would never take a gamble and buy Robinho over Tevez, after seeing him endure such criticism early on, then literally take West Ham on his shoulders and save dem frm relegation.  Sir Alex said that he became convinced that Tevez was the man he wanted after he beat Man U at Old Trafford.  Why yuh think they going through all that litigation for de man?  Is because he is EPL-proven.  De man does hustle like ah bulldog, with great creativity too.
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: Grande on July 31, 2007, 08:48:12 PM
I know that Real Madrid was thinking about moving Robinho to Italy. Man U should have gone after Robinho instead of Tevez. I will take Robinho on my team before Tevez easily.

Physically, Tevez seems more up to the challenge and he's proven that he can excel in the EPL. He'd be less of a risk than Robinho after proving himself at West Ham. In that regard, EPL teams would covet Tevez over Robinho....I think.

Agreed...Toppa might send meh a cyber-slap for this but Tevez might also be a more complete player than Robinho. Wicked free-kicks, headers, the same stepovers and deadly finishing, good physicality for small stature...Tevez have it. Pretty much there is little Tevez can't do. Not sure if I can say the same abt Robinho but they both did carry their respective sides to personal victory in the late stages of their league seasons.

In a Man U context...Tevez will be an excellent signing, for any team for that matter. Robinho would be more effective in C. Ronaldo's position since Robinho can actually get past men with his stepovers and tends to use his brain more than his Portuguese counterpart.
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: Coach on July 31, 2007, 09:35:49 PM
Good abservations fellas but for 1v1 Robinho has the edge, and as a striker that is huge
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: Toppa on July 31, 2007, 11:57:32 PM
I know that Real Madrid was thinking about moving Robinho to Italy. Man U should have gone after Robinho instead of Tevez. I will take Robinho on my team before Tevez easily.

Robinho is an "untouchable" according to Real's new coach. They're actually going to centre the attack around him. So ManU could hul!
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 01, 2007, 12:00:28 AM
I know that Real Madrid was thinking about moving Robinho to Italy. Man U should have gone after Robinho instead of Tevez. I will take Robinho on my team before Tevez easily.

Robinho is an "untouchable" according to Real's new coach. They're actually going to centre the attack around him. So ManU could hul!


    :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: davidephraim on August 01, 2007, 06:34:28 AM
Ah go have to ride with Robhino. Granted Filho's point about de EPL is noteworthy but Tevez kinda show me his limitedness on de International stage de other day but again we talking about de EPL so I like Robhino but Tevez is most probably de most realistical choice.
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: kicker on August 01, 2007, 09:47:48 AM
For the EPL, I'll give Tevez the nod based on his physicality...

Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: labi on August 01, 2007, 11:41:22 AM
u guys need 2 go watch joga tv....robinho said intelligence will always beat strength..ROBINHO ova TEVeZ any day!!! 
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: trinikev on August 01, 2007, 01:15:45 PM
u guys need 2 go watch joga tv....robinho said intelligence will always beat strength..ROBINHO ova TEVeZ any day!!!

Allyuh talking like Tevez is the village idiot.

Tevez is also a smart player, and more suited for the EPL than Robinho. As for who is the better player overall, that just comes down to ur personal opinion
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: Cantona007 on August 01, 2007, 01:27:50 PM
I know that Real Madrid was thinking about moving Robinho to Italy. Man U should have gone after Robinho instead of Tevez. I will take Robinho on my team before Tevez easily.

Physically, Tevez seems more up to the challenge and he's proven that he can excel in the EPL. He'd be less of a risk than Robinho after proving himself at West Ham. In that regard, EPL teams would covet Tevez over Robinho....I think.

Agreed...Toppa might send meh a cyber-slap for this but Tevez might also be a more complete player than Robinho. Wicked free-kicks, headers, the same stepovers and deadly finishing, good physicality for small stature...Tevez have it. Pretty much there is little Tevez can't do. Not sure if I can say the same abt Robinho but they both did carry their respective sides to personal victory in the late stages of their league seasons.

In a Man U context...Tevez will be an excellent signing, for any team for that matter. Robinho would be more effective in C. Ronaldo's position since Robinho can actually get past men with his stepovers and tends to use his brain more than his Portuguese counterpart.

You was talking sense until...  ;D
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: D.H.W on August 01, 2007, 03:40:01 PM
tevez anyday for me :)
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: Trini Madness on August 01, 2007, 04:09:00 PM
robinho is a very very good player but tevez i think is better overall.
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: College on August 01, 2007, 07:21:01 PM
Tevez tevez tevez.......Tevez is a better fit in a Manu structure...
Title: Re: Robinho or Tevez who is the better choice for Man U
Post by: weary1969 on August 02, 2007, 09:01:13 AM
tevez only because me eh want to see no Brazilian in d EPL
Title: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: dinho on August 22, 2008, 07:43:58 AM
I want to join Chelsea - Robinho

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7559701.stm

Brazilian forward Robinho has made it clear that he wants to leave Real Madrid and sign for Chelsea.

The Blues had a 19.7m bid rejected, with Real president Roman Calderon insisting the 24-year-old would stay.

But Robinho told Spanish news agency EFE: "I want to leave. I've told the president, the directors and the coach. I want to play in the Premier League.

"Chelsea have a great squad, a great team and their offer is good for me and for the team."

Robinho, who can play in a wide attacking position or through the middle, is keen to move to Chelsea to join fellow Brazilian Luiz Felipe Scolari at Stamford Bridge.
   
I hope the Real Madrid directors reach an agreement with Chelsea to resolve my situation as quickly as possible

Robinho

Real were prepared to use Robinho as a makeweight in their pursuit of Portugal winger Cristiano Ronaldo from Manchester United and refused to release the Brazilian for the Olympics.

Robinho added: "I'm telling the truth. I want to leave and I have got the character to tell the press that I'm not aiming to stay at Real.

"It isn't because of money, it is simply because I want to leave. My personal aim is to be the best player in the world and that isn't going to be possible at Real Madrid.

"I've played three seasons at Real Madrid and have given everything.

"I think my period at Real Madrid has come to an end. I hope the directors reach an agreement with Chelsea to resolve my situation as quickly as possible."

Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon said last week that the Blues could still sign Robinho - despite the Spanish club insisting he was going nowhere.

"We've still got a few days left of the window," stated Kenyon. "Hopefully we'll get a result."

Real Madrid coach Bernd Schuster has claimed that Robinho will not be sold at any price, while Calderon told BBC Radio 5 Live: "Definitely, he is going to stay with us. The coach has said he wants him in our team.
   
606: DEBATE
Could Robinho set Stamford Bridge alight?

"We don't see any possibility of Robinho leaving Real Madrid."

Meanwhile, Robinho's agent Wagner Ribeiro was recently reported as saying that Madrid have "failed to value him as he deserves" and that he was unhappy at being included by Madrid as a potential makeweight in any deal to take Ronaldo from Manchester United to Real.

Kenyon believes Madrid's eagerness to secure a replacement is the only factor preventing him from moving to Stamford Bridge.

"A key issue over buying Robinho has always been that Real are looking for a replacement," he has told his club's website.

"It is fair to say that is what has been holding up discussions."
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: gothic on August 22, 2008, 08:39:17 AM
I think he right to want out, it's clear that there are some in the Real's organization that doh rate him as highly as they should.

but ah have to wonder if he will get the attention he expects at Chelsea
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: giggsy11 on August 22, 2008, 01:40:42 PM
I will be happy when the transfer window closes. Everyday is some speculating story with mostly quotes from an agent.
Chelski have enough players. Robinho will end up like SPW if he move to Chelski!
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: elan on August 22, 2008, 01:56:50 PM
Run ..........duck............hide.  ;D


Can you say three, now class put your tongue between your teeth nad say thhhreeeeeee
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: dinho on August 22, 2008, 01:59:48 PM
I will be happy when the transfer window closes. Everyday is some speculating story with mostly quotes from an agent.
Chelski have enough players. Robinho will end up like SPW if he move to Chelski!


Lol.. doh study when is enough players for chelsea..

you know what they say..

when your neighbor's house is on fire, (like against Portsmouth) make sure to throw some water on yours!!

if i was you i'd be more concerned with Berbatov not coming to Utd. (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8479098/Fergie-'losing-hope'-over-Berba-deal)
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: SOBRIQUET on August 22, 2008, 03:01:00 PM
big players want to go to big clubs... plain and simple...
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: giggsy11 on August 22, 2008, 07:20:20 PM
I will be happy when the transfer window closes. Everyday is some speculating story with mostly quotes from an agent.
Chelski have enough players. Robinho will end up like SPW if he move to Chelski!


Lol.. doh study when is enough players for chelsea..

you know what they say..

when your neighbor's house is on fire, (like against Portsmouth) make sure to throw some water on yours!!

if i was you i'd be more concerned with Berbatov not coming to Utd. (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8479098/Fergie-'losing-hope'-over-Berba-deal)


Lol!  Still will not be enough,  who ever yuh throw money at! Smells like desperation, so  all yuh tryin to throw money at players who just lookin tuh get ah raise and content tuh ride bench!
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 22, 2008, 07:41:19 PM
Chelsea Rent Boys Hello Hello Chelsea Rent Boys Bye Bye Bye Bye
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: giggsy11 on August 22, 2008, 07:53:31 PM
Oh yeah Omar, all yuh tryin to get Kaka, Robinho, Pele, Maradona, Van Basten cause all yuh know dise what it will take tuh even tie United for points this season. Smells like desperation. Dise all yuh nearly men theme for the season! Desperate to have success like United hence yuh hiring Gene Hackman as yuh coach, a United reject in Kenyon, every player 'linked with United in the past 5 years, MUTV oh wait here comes Chelski tv. Everything United did 10 years ago all yuh trying tuh emulate! Imitation is the best form of flattery. There is only one UNITED!
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: jai john on August 22, 2008, 08:17:27 PM
I think he right to want out, it's clear that there are some in the Real's organization that doh rate him as highly as they should.

but ah have to wonder if he will get the attention he expects at Chelsea

Attention  ?  $$$$$$ makes more sense. Why does every footballer have Chelsea in his plans somewhere ? If de Russian only leave dais it !
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: dinho on August 22, 2008, 10:18:14 PM
yes.. *rubs hands*

come Luke..

come to the dark side of the force!
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: dinho on August 23, 2008, 07:39:10 AM
Real ready to sell Robinho to Chelsea

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8479350/Real-ready-to-sell-Robinho-to-Chelsea

Real Madrid have revealed they are finally ready to let Robinho move to Chelsea after the Brazilian expressed his wish to leave the Bernabeu.

Robinho has cut an unhappy figure in recent weeks after he was linked with a switch to Manchester United as part of a deal for Cristiano Ronaldo.

He has been targeted by Chelsea, with the Premier League club confirming they had made an offer - believed to be in excess of 24.5million - for the gifted forward.

The Spanish champions had previously resisted all offers for Robinho, saying the 24-year-old was not for sale.

However, on Friday, Robinho reiterated his desire to leave the Bernabeu in order to link up with Luiz Felipe Scolari's Chelsea.

Real have responded to Robinho's comments and admit they do not want to keep an unhappy player in Bernd Schuster's squad.

"Real Madrid have become aware of the declarations by the player and deeply regret their content," read a statement on the club's official website.

"Real Madrid would never want to retain a player against his wishes and as a result they have no alternative, but to accept his unilateral decision to rescind his contract if that is what the player wants."

It is unclear whether Real are now prepared to enter into negotiations with Chelsea to reach agreement on a fee for Robinho.

The other alternative is for Robinho to come to a deal with Real to terminate his contract, which has a buy-out clause of 150 million (120million).
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: kev on August 23, 2008, 11:48:41 AM
and as if by coincidence

Shevchenko off to Milan - Medical Monday

seems also happy to see SWP leave.
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: elan on August 23, 2008, 03:07:22 PM
Don't be scared.  ;D
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: gothic on August 24, 2008, 03:58:36 PM
just saw the Spanish Super Cup, Robinho looks like he's already out of the squad, real exciting game and he looked more sour than Christiano Ronaldo at a ManU game.
Title: Re: I want to join Chelsea! - Robinho
Post by: elan on August 25, 2008, 11:32:31 AM
Calderon reiterates Robinho sale plans
ESPNSoccernet




Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon has again insisted wantaway forward Robinho is free to join Chelsea.

Calderon has left the future of the Brazilian up to coach Bernd Schuster and sporting director Predrag Mijatovic and claims he will not be forced to stay against his will.

Speaking prior to the second leg of the Spanish Supercopa between Madrid and Valencia last night, where Robinho was an unused substitute, Calderon echoed the comments he made on Saturday after the Brazil international announced he wanted to leave the Primera Liga champions and join Chelsea.

'His declarations have been inopportune but nobody is going to be kept at the club against their will,' Calderon told Telecinco.

However, Calderon again emphasised he would be looking for what is best for Madrid.

Calderon told Robinho on Saturday to hand in a written transfer request if he wants to leave, but vowed the club will not sell the player - suggesting the Brazilian will have to buy out his contract to gain his freedom.

'It's something else that the president does not defend the interests of the club,' Calderon said last night.

Despite declaring his desire to leave the club, Robinho was still named in Schuster's 18-man squad for the Supercopa second leg against Valencia, where Madrid were looking to overcome a 3-2 deficit from the first meeting.

He spent the whole time on the bench though as Madrid clinched a thrilling 6-5 aggregate victory despite having two men sent-off in Sunday's clash at the Bernabeu.

Schuster admits that for 'selfish' reasons he is still hoping that Robinho will remain at the Bernabeu this season.

'For me, Robinho is the same player as always - he is an important player, who should be part of this project,' Schuster said.

'I think that he knows that he can be successful at Real Madrid. It is a subject that you need to resolve in the best way possible, but we are all selfish and the best would be that he stays with us for a long time.'

The German admitted that the whole episode is not ideal, adding: 'Without doubt, it's not a comfortable situation either for him or for us.'

Schuster's decision to use Royston Drenthe, Ruben de la Red and Gonzalo Higuain as his three substitutes against Valencia paid dividends, with the latter two each scoring as nine-man Madrid won a breathtaking encounter 4-2 to take the Supercopa 6-5 on aggregate.

'The decision not to play him (Robinho) was mine,' Schuster added.

'He continues with the team because we are going to see what happens, we need to think that he could also remain with the team this season.'


Title: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 01, 2008, 04:32:45 PM
 :rotfl:

confirmed on SSN
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: sammy on September 01, 2008, 04:39:22 PM
MADRID AGREE TO SELL ROBINHO
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Real Madrid have confirmed they have agreed to sell Robinho to Manchester City.

The Brazilian forward, a long-term target for Chelsea, must now agree personal terms with City if he is to complete a shock move.

A statement on Real's official website reads: "Real Madrid and Manchester City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Robinho.

"Real Madrid have finally decided tonight to transfer Robson da Souza - Robinho - to Manchester City."

The news comes on the day Abu Dhabi United Group for Development and Investment began the process to take over at City, entering a period of due diligence.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,14018_4083777,00.html

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 01, 2008, 04:41:50 PM
yeah but on SSN they say its a done deal...its official
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: sammy on September 01, 2008, 04:44:15 PM
 :rotfl: :devil:

poor chelsea  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2008, 04:45:23 PM
ahahahahahahaha  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :D
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: dinho on September 01, 2008, 04:46:42 PM
*burns freshly printed robinho chelsea jersey*

ah feel madrid spite him though..

yuh want to go chelsea and yuh wasting we down in de press? Go Man City or yuh ass staying right here!
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: sammy on September 01, 2008, 04:48:38 PM
lol

money talks....and it have a bigger talker in town now -right?

 :rotfl:

Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2008, 04:50:38 PM
 :devil:
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: giggsy11 on September 01, 2008, 05:02:35 PM
Robinho might be lookin tuh move from City by transfer window or next season. Real do ah spite ting oui. The same ting United will do when dey sell Ronaldo.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on September 01, 2008, 05:04:01 PM
Robinho will be earning 6 million Euros a year (net).

So I assume he'll be happy where he is for now...
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: dinho on September 01, 2008, 05:05:07 PM
i'm just struggling with the mental picture of a superstar like robinho in Man City colors...

 :puking:

Robinho will be earning 6 million Euros a year (net).

So I assume he'll be happy where he is for now...

hope he enjoys the weather up north.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: NUFF on September 01, 2008, 05:06:09 PM
poor Robinho....he career go suffer until he able to get out of England.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: dinho on September 01, 2008, 05:13:02 PM
wait nuh..

i now checking up on meh fantasy league side there and make this out..

Robinho's first EPL game in Man City colors will be against...........................


CHELSEA!  >:(
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: giggsy11 on September 01, 2008, 05:16:23 PM
Denilson 2!
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: fari on September 01, 2008, 05:16:41 PM
ppl sleeping on man city...they have elano, jo and robinho...a formidable front line...plus wright phillips have a point to prove...watch out for this side cause they will give plenty teams a run for their money
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Coop's on September 01, 2008, 05:35:53 PM
I wonder if lessons are being learnt from all this,i remember some time ago it was said on here that players can do what they want,referance to Roy Keane and T&T players,i've seen so many instances of players having problems to play for country,move from club to club etc etc it seems players have no say in these matters,clubs are fighting back.

I've said it before,players going to the press/public when they have problems with administration is not helping their career,it's true the players are who makes the administration who they are but the tail can't wag the dog,i find this is quite common in Soccer today.   
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: giggsy11 on September 01, 2008, 05:47:25 PM
I wonder if lessons are being learnt from all this,i remember some time ago it was said on here that players can do what they want,referance to Roy Keane and T&T players,i've seen so many instances of players having problems to play for country,move from club to club etc etc it seems players have no say in these matters,clubs are fighting back.

I've said it before,players going to the press/public when they have problems with administration is not helping their career,it's true the players are who makes the administration who they are but the tail can't wag the dog,i find this is quite common in Soccer today.



when man let hurt feelings and ego motivate their actions it rarely comes out in their favor. Ah tink Chelski didn't help the man cause with their amateurish and egotistical ways.  There is always a way about going about your business hopefully one of them will learn from their brethren.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Grande on September 01, 2008, 06:04:19 PM
ppl sleeping on man city...they have elano, jo and robinho...a formidable front line...plus wright phillips have a point to prove...watch out for this side cause they will give plenty teams a run for their money

Good point...ppl so used to wasting down Man City as the shittier of the two shitty Manchester sides. But if a team aspires to be greater then they must step out of the shadows of mediocrity and start somewhere and keep on the up and up amdist the doubters. Elano was a start...Robinho is the continuation. I hear they make a serious offer fuh Ronaldo (9) if/when he come back. We'll see how dis side plays out, or even how long Robinho will last with them, he could pull a Carlos Tevez...
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: PantherX on September 01, 2008, 06:14:59 PM
Man City new owners look like thay have plenty money to spend.  As soon as they announce the takeover bids started to fly like crazy.....30m for Berbatov, 32.5m for Robinho plus offers for Villa and Gomez as well.

We may looking at Chel$ki mk II and that's pretty damn scary.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: JDB on September 01, 2008, 06:24:09 PM
Chelsea will try and sugarcoat this and say that the price was too much but they look like right fools.

For the last two weeks I hear Kenyon on the radio talking about how the deal is as good as done. That plus posting the Robinho jersey on the CFCwebsite is an indication that they get carried away with they money. Mind you United almost get catch out with their stupid games, hoping Spurs get desparate, but at least they were smart enough to not say anything during the whole ordeal.

Kenyon is an ass and I glad to see him get his comeuppance. Wouldn't be surprised to see him move to Man City now since he is a lifelong "Manchester" fan.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: samo on September 01, 2008, 06:28:20 PM
As a Chelsea fan, I glad he gone there, I not 100% sold on him adapting to the English rugges style... I wish Neradatov had gone their 2..
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: elan on September 01, 2008, 06:28:54 PM
That's ok we we gonna still get it done. We will let Mikel at him when we meet Man city.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Small Change on September 01, 2008, 07:52:44 PM
Berbatov gone Man U..........CONFIRMED
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Bakes on September 01, 2008, 08:13:33 PM
Man City new owners look like thay have plenty money to spend. As soon as they announce the takeover bids started to fly like crazy.....30m for Berbatov, 32.5m for Robinho plus offers for Villa and Gomez as well.

We may looking at Chel$ki mk II and that's pretty damn scary.

I just coming to ask if dem A-rabs and dem printing dey own money, lol
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: weary1969 on September 01, 2008, 09:08:54 PM
Wish help all d best eh sold on it but all d best 2 he and d other Manchester
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Trini Madness on September 01, 2008, 10:40:34 PM
wow is all i have to say....

he is going to get roughed up
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: kev on September 01, 2008, 11:57:31 PM
The new owners have a lot more money than Chelski.

Next transfer window suspect it's biggis dickus time.

Liverpool fans might start getting a little edgey.

Hughes is a good manager, but will the new owners want a "name" as a manager come the end of the season. 

More bad news for the prem in the medium term as it will now have 2 clubs that nobody else can compete with in terms of spending as it can't be justified as a business.  No doubt to attract the players they will need to bump the wages up again. 

Personally I would like to see squad size / wage bill caps coming in shortly as its the only way to get any real competition back into the league. 

I dread to think how much Man City are going to spend in the January window.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: palos on September 02, 2008, 01:08:48 AM
Transfer deadline come and gone.

Not a PEEP from Arsenal.

Eedah Wenger is a idiot and a scrooge of legendary proportions...

OR

De buggah is not only a great manager...but an even greater businessman

Ah go tell yuh dis...in dis current environment...if Arsenal finishes top 4 in de BPL....dat will be an amazing testament to Wenger's managerial abilities and judgement because de odds certainly stacked against him now.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: RedDevils on September 02, 2008, 05:42:36 AM
yooooooo this is de biggest shock in this transfer period...Robinho to Man City......oh well,
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Filho on September 02, 2008, 07:10:37 AM
Robinho got exactly what he wanted. A BIIIIG money move to the EPL. Chelsea means nothing to the Brazilian. They just happened to be the biggest spenders and would have given him the fattest pay package. Now there is a player with even more money in town and he'll probably get more playing time...plus with Elano and Jo there, he even has a lil Brazilian contingent to help him acclimitize.

These fellas eh easy. If Robinho didn't like what he saw, he would have stayed put...issued an aplogy...take his boo...put in a few super performances off de bench. All is forgiven. We've seen it before. Fans are fickle and so is the media. Once the prodigal son could wet, he is usually forgiven. De players know this and they have real belly...

Once you knew who now owns Man City and see how they chasing every player on the planet form Mario Gomez to Hardest, it eh no surprise that a player like Robinho there...Watch the ride. Chelsea part II has begun
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Toppa on September 02, 2008, 07:14:02 AM
Robinho got exactly what he wanted. A BIIIIG money move to the EPL. Chelsea means nothing to the Brazilian. They just happened to be the biggest spenders and would have given him the fattest pay package. Now there is a player with even more money in town and he'll probably get more playing time...plus with Elano and Jo there, he even has a lil Brazilian contingent to help him acclimitize.

These fellas eh easy. If Robinho didn't like what he saw, he would have stayed put...issued an aplogy...take his boo...put in a few super performances off de bench. All is forgiven. We've seen it before. Fans are fickle and so is the media. Once the prodigal son could wet, he is usually forgiven. De players know this and they have real belly...

Once you knew who now owns Man City and see how they chasing every player on the planet form Mario Gomez to Hardest, it eh no surprise that a player like Robinho there...Watch the ride. Chelsea part II has begun

 :'(
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: palos on September 02, 2008, 07:19:15 AM
and he'll probably get more playing time...

 :o :o ???
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: NUFF on September 02, 2008, 07:34:25 AM
Money is de only motivation I could think of that would make Robinho want to move to Manchester City, if that is what he wanted.  I think he will regret that move very soon.

From a purely football perspective I don't see The EPL as a league for him, unless he went to one of the Three big teams.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: weary1969 on September 02, 2008, 07:38:43 AM
Of course is money
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Filho on September 02, 2008, 08:03:11 AM
and he'll probably get more playing time...

 :o :o ???

...than if he went to Chelsea
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: asylumseeker on September 02, 2008, 08:10:43 AM
Not sure he'll 'regret' b/c the hurdle was gehhin into the EPL ... now he's there he'll be sure to have interest from the paupers and the princes alike :devil: ... the EPL is a damn good place to witness yuh value inflated but it's an equally convenient venue for watching yuh worth plummet

Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Toppa on September 02, 2008, 08:44:00 AM
I so vex...if yuh insist on leaving Madrid...don't leave for ManCity (or any team in the Premeirship for that mater)!!

Oh lawwwwwwd.

At least a lil AC Milan or Juventus.

Steupsss
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: NUFF on September 02, 2008, 09:19:44 AM
I so vex...if yuh insist on leaving Madrid...don't leave for ManCity (or any team in the Premeirship for that mater)!!

Oh lawwwwwwd.

At least a lil AC Milan or Juventus.

Steupsss

And to make matters worse he take Real Madrid title hopes with him.  This is ah bad move all de way around.  Well except fuh he wallet.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Toppa on September 02, 2008, 09:27:11 AM
I so vex...if yuh insist on leaving Madrid...don't leave for ManCity (or any team in the Premeirship for that mater)!!

Oh lawwwwwwd.

At least a lil AC Milan or Juventus.

Steupsss

And to make matters worse he take Real Madrid title hopes with him. This is ah bad move all de way around. Well except fuh he wallet.
I will admit that the Real Madrid higher-ups didn't treat him well at all.

But then he acted like a petulant child, in my opinion, and his behaviour began to affect the rest of the team, who didn't deserve it.

It was clear based on interviews that his team-mates were becoming exasperated with him and then he went and held a Press-Conference while Real Madrid were losing Deportivo and after that even Schuster, who always openly waned him to stay, said he didn't have time for him anymore.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: kicker on September 02, 2008, 09:40:23 AM
I so vex...if yuh insist on leaving Madrid...don't leave for ManCity (or any team in the Premeirship for that mater)!!

Oh lawwwwwwd.

At least a lil AC Milan or Juventus.

Steupsss

Juventus? -Wipe yuh mouth.....
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: palos on September 02, 2008, 09:49:31 AM
People carryin on here like if de players decide whey dem goin.

Allyuh REALLY tink Robinho chose Man City over Chelsea?

SERIOUS?  ::)
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: trinikev on September 02, 2008, 09:51:21 AM
I so vex...if yuh insist on leaving Madrid...don't leave for ManCity (or any team in the Premeirship for that mater)!!

Oh lawwwwwwd.

At least a lil AC Milan or Juventus.

Steupsss

Juventus? -Wipe yuh mouth.....

I was now gonna say the same thing  :devil:
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: PantherX on September 02, 2008, 09:51:37 AM
It's funny hearing people talk about Robinho going for the money....especially Chelsea fans. When Abramovich bought Chelsea and started buying every warm body he could find there was nothing to attract players other than the huge salaries he was offering.

BTW the new Man City owner is reported as being TEN TIMES AS RICH as Abramovich.....I'm just waiting for the comments when Man City buys the premiership title in a couple years.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: palos on September 02, 2008, 09:54:36 AM
BTW the new Man City owner is reported as being TEN TIMES AS RICH as Abramovich.....I'm just waiting for the comments when Man City buys the premiership title in a couple years.

I waitin to see how much "I was always a Man City fan from back in de day" posters go crawl out de woodwork too...

Right Omar?  ;D
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: fordy on September 02, 2008, 10:25:24 AM
quite frankly i dont mind the Robinho buy for Man City. it will give the other top 4 clubs another team to be concerned about. and as far as him adapting to the riggers of the EPL, you guys need to watch some games of Robinho before he got to Spain and was playing in a rougher league than the EPL, BRAZIL!!! blade passing like rain, and all this youth was doing was making men look like boys with his skill, touch and flair!! i aint too worried bout he handling he business in England. :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: palos on September 02, 2008, 10:52:49 AM
quite frankly i dont mind the Robinho buy for Man City. it will give the other top 4 clubs another team to be concerned about. and as far as him adapting to the riggers of the EPL, you guys need to watch some games of Robinho before he got to Spain and was playing in a rougher league than the EPL, BRAZIL!!! blade passing like rain, and all this youth was doing was making men look like boys with his skill, touch and flair!! i aint too worried bout he handling he business in England. :beermug: :beermug:

Is not de blade dat does cause many South American ballas not to succeed in British Football.

Is a combination a de cold & de helicopter football played at 100 mph dat does cause dat.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Filho on September 02, 2008, 11:06:37 AM
People carryin on here like if de players decide whey dem goin.

Allyuh REALLY tink Robinho chose Man City over Chelsea?

SERIOUS? ::)

u serious? who say he chose Man City over Chelsea. The two facts are that Real Madrid ultimately only considered the Man City bid, and Robinho decided better to go Man City than stay in Madrid. But he sure didn't have to go Man City.

No club can sell a player against his wishes, but no player can force a club to listen to offers. Do your research and see how many players cause good deals to fall through cuz dey say dey eh budging. For the king, look up a man called Winston Bogarde who was at Chelsea. So is a two way street once the player under contract, but the player eh going where he doh want to go
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: NUFF on September 02, 2008, 11:32:19 AM
I want to see how high dem transfer fees and player salaries will keep going. These outrageous fees will eventually make these leagues more and more like the scottish league.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: palos on September 02, 2008, 11:38:04 AM
For the king, look up a man called Winston Bogarde who was at Chelsea. So is a two way street once the player under contract, but the player eh going where he doh want to go

You brighter dan dat.  No way Real Madrid or any other club was goin to pay de kinda wages dem does pay Robinho to sit on bench or play in reserves fuh any protracted length a time.

De Sheringham's and de Bogarde's of dis world dey could do dat to because dey could AFFORD to prove dat point, even doh it costin dem money because is CHUMP CHANGE by comparison to Robinho money.

Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Pointman on September 02, 2008, 02:12:34 PM
Denilson 2!

doh goatmouth de man nah :rotfl:

GO FOR THE MONEY SON!!!

voce e ginga pura!!
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Bitter on September 02, 2008, 02:51:56 PM
I actually think this is a good thing.
More good teams = better league.

If everyone only moved between the top teams, there would be no reason to watch anyone else (The Scottish league has already achieved this 'distinction')

Regardless of his motives, Robinho is in Man City now. The thing that keeps supporters coming back is hope, if they win any trophies he'll be a hero forever.

Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: dinho on September 02, 2008, 03:31:01 PM
BTW the new Man City owner is reported as being TEN TIMES AS RICH as Abramovich.....I'm just waiting for the comments when Man City buys the premiership title in a couple years.

I waitin to see how much "I was always a Man City fan from back in de day" posters go crawl out de woodwork too...

Right Omar?  ;D

lol... that is ah low blow.

Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: dinho on September 02, 2008, 04:44:19 PM
From http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7593936.stm

The estimated wealth of the Al Nahyan family is an almost unimaginable $1 trillion (a thousand billion dollars) or more than 560bn.  :o

That is what yuh call tall paper!
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Toppa on September 02, 2008, 05:16:40 PM
From http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7593936.stm

The estimated wealth of the Al Nahyan family is an almost unimaginable $1 trillion (a thousand billion dollars) or more than 560bn. :o

That is what yuh call tall paper!

Waaay.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2008, 05:17:23 PM
shit :o. them could buy anybody they want without sweating. next year transfer season go be good lol.

Abramovich aint ready  :devil:
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Deeks on September 02, 2008, 05:25:25 PM
I sorry I born the wrong time.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: JDB on September 02, 2008, 07:07:05 PM
quite frankly i dont mind the Robinho buy for Man City. it will give the other top 4 clubs another team to be concerned about. and as far as him adapting to the riggers of the EPL, you guys need to watch some games of Robinho before he got to Spain and was playing in a rougher league than the EPL, BRAZIL!!! blade passing like rain, and all this youth was doing was making men look like boys with his skill, touch and flair!! i aint too worried bout he handling he business in England. :beermug: :beermug:

Is not de blade dat does cause many South American ballas not to succeed in British Football.

Is a combination a de cold & de helicopter football played at 100 mph dat does cause dat.

The notion of SA footballers not succeeding in Britain is overplayed. Bad players do not do well, but these players wouldn't succeed in Italy or Spain either.

If you look at the quality, big name players who have gone to Britain they have generally been successful.

Players like Juninho, Asprilla, Ardiles, Villa, Robledo did very well and are legends at the clubs they played for. Veron is a high profile exception but even he wasn't that bad and was affected more by team tactics than a failure to adapt.

Robinho will be a huge success.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: RedDevils on September 03, 2008, 09:48:03 AM
From http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7593936.stm

The estimated wealth of the Al Nahyan family is an almost unimaginable $1 trillion (a thousand billion dollars) or more than 560bn. :o

That is what yuh call tall paper!





DAMN........them could really tell people " i could spend your life in a day"

Boss man say 200million is nothing to me, we just spend 60billion for development d other day.........they making Roman and chelski look small dread.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Andre on September 03, 2008, 10:55:20 AM
de messiah reach!

http://digg.com/soccer/Manchester_City_FC_Robinho_Presentation_Interview_Jerseys

(http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/371.$plit/C_71_article_1065126_image_list_image_list_item_0_image.jpg?03%2F09%2F2008%2008%3A03%3A25%3A419)
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: NUFF on September 03, 2008, 11:22:42 AM
de messiah reach!

http://digg.com/soccer/Manchester_City_FC_Robinho_Presentation_Interview_Jerseys

(http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/371.$plit/C_71_article_1065126_image_list_image_list_item_0_image.jpg?03%2F09%2F2008%2008%3A03%3A25%3A419)

Yuh right.  De messiah saves.  But de only saving Robinho go be doing is in he bank account.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Andre on September 03, 2008, 11:24:35 AM
allyuh eh know that manchester en route to west london in a roundabout kinda way.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: dinho on September 03, 2008, 03:40:58 PM
Real 'rejected' crazy City bid for Ruud

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8518514/Real-'rejected'-crazy-City-bid-for-Ruud

Real Madrid is reported to have turned down a "blank check" from Manchester City for former United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy.

The Blues eventually shelled out 32.5million for Real's Brazil striker Robinho following Monday's shock takeover by the Abu Dhabi United Group.

But before sealing that deal, Spanish daily Marca claims Real chose to reject an even more staggering offer for another Bernabeu superstar - Dutch striker van Nistelrooy.

The paper claims when City were told van Nistelrooy was not for sale, they came back with a huge bid that was rejected.

Then, in a final attempt to land the ex-Old Trafford star, they reportedly offered Madrid a blank check and told them to name their price for van Nistelrooy. But once again, Madrid refused.

It is the latest bizarre rumor to come out of Monday's deadline-day frenzy, which was kicked off by that City takeover.

As well as landing Robinho, the Blues also tabled a British-record transfer bid for Dimitar Berbatov and were also linked with the likes of David Villa and Mario Gomez.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: dinho on September 03, 2008, 03:55:04 PM
and proof that he'll be a superstar at Man City....



Pele advises counselling for Robinho

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8521130/Pele-advises-counselling-for-Robinho

Brazilian football legend Pele has expressed his disappointment in Robinho, saying he "needs counselling", after the young striker signed for Manchester City on a lucrative contract.

Pele stated that Chelsea, who was originally going to be Robinho's new club, should be happy the 24-year-old went elsewhere.

Pele said: "Chelsea are lucky. This boy needs some serious counselling. In my view he has been badly advised."

Robinho's move from Real Madrid to City has not been well received by his fellow Brazilians.

Both Pele and Robinho started their careers at Santos in Brazil.

The president of Santos, Marcelo Teixera said: "This is one of the most disgraceful episodes in Brazilian football.

"He is a player who is an idol to children, an example. But he has not acted like one."

And Santos general manager, Jose Fernandos, added: "We are ashamed at having produced such a player."
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: asylumseeker on September 03, 2008, 03:57:56 PM
Real 'rejected' crazy City bid for Ruud

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8518514/Real-'rejected'-crazy-City-bid-for-Ruud

Real Madrid is reported to have turned down a "blank check" from Manchester City for former United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy.

The Blues eventually shelled out 32.5million for Real's Brazil striker Robinho following Monday's shock takeover by the Abu Dhabi United Group.

But before sealing that deal, Spanish daily Marca claims Real chose to reject an even more staggering offer for another Bernabeu superstar - Dutch striker van Nistelrooy.

The paper claims when City were told van Nistelrooy was not for sale, they came back with a huge bid that was rejected.

Then, in a final attempt to land the ex-Old Trafford star, they reportedly offered Madrid a blank check and told them to name their price for van Nistelrooy. But once again, Madrid refused.

It is the latest bizarre rumor to come out of Monday's deadline-day frenzy, which was kicked off by that City takeover.

As well as landing Robinho, the Blues also tabled a British-record transfer bid for Dimitar Berbatov and were also linked with the likes of David Villa and Mario Gomez.

Indication Ruud isn't worth the paper his name is written on? hahahaha Yep, I'm not a fan.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Peong on September 03, 2008, 04:54:53 PM
Lol dem men say robinho must be mad to sign for City yes.
At least he didn't go to Qatar.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: giggsy11 on September 03, 2008, 05:11:07 PM
Apparently he became so desperate to leave he broke down crying tuh Calderon cause he was afraid of backlash from fans, teamates and media! So he take whatever came his way plus ah nice raise! Dem good yes
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: morvant on September 03, 2008, 05:13:00 PM
and proof that he'll be a superstar at Man City....



Pele advises counselling for Robinho

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8521130/Pele-advises-counselling-for-Robinho

Brazilian football legend Pele has expressed his disappointment in Robinho, saying he "needs counselling", after the young striker signed for Manchester City on a lucrative contract.

Pele stated that Chelsea, who was originally going to be Robinho's new club, should be happy the 24-year-old went elsewhere.

Pele said: "Chelsea are lucky. This boy needs some serious counselling. In my view he has been badly advised."

Robinho's move from Real Madrid to City has not been well received by his fellow Brazilians.

Both Pele and Robinho started their careers at Santos in Brazil.

The president of Santos, Marcelo Teixera said: "This is one of the most disgraceful episodes in Brazilian football.

"He is a player who is an idol to children, an example. But he has not acted like one."

And Santos general manager, Jose Fernandos, added: "We are ashamed at having produced such a player."


pele go badtalk he own countryman in public like this

he lost all respect from me. kakahole
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: asylumseeker on September 04, 2008, 05:45:27 AM
and proof that he'll be a superstar at Man City....



Pele advises counselling for Robinho

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8521130/Pele-advises-counselling-for-Robinho

Brazilian football legend Pele has expressed his disappointment in Robinho, saying he "needs counselling", after the young striker signed for Manchester City on a lucrative contract.

Pele stated that Chelsea, who was originally going to be Robinho's new club, should be happy the 24-year-old went elsewhere.

Pele said: "Chelsea are lucky. This boy needs some serious counselling. In my view he has been badly advised."

Robinho's move from Real Madrid to City has not been well received by his fellow Brazilians.

Both Pele and Robinho started their careers at Santos in Brazil.

The president of Santos, Marcelo Teixera said: "This is one of the most disgraceful episodes in Brazilian football.

"He is a player who is an idol to children, an example. But he has not acted like one."

And Santos general manager, Jose Fernandos, added: "We are ashamed at having produced such a player."


pele go badtalk he own countryman in public like this

he lost all respect from me. kakahole

Dahis de Brazilian way ... it's not Pele specific
Title: Robinho makes Man City move gaffe
Post by: d-hawkeye on September 04, 2008, 08:58:57 AM

Robinho makes Man City move gaffe


Robinho had to be reminded he had joined Man City and not Chelsea

Robinho's career at Manchester City has not got off to the smoothest start following his switch from Real Madrid.

The Brazilian stunned football by making a 32.5m move to Eastlands and not, as expected, to Londoners Chelsea.

However, it appears the 24-year-old's deadline day move has still to sink in.

"On the last day, Chelsea made me a great proposal and I accepted it," he said, to which a reporter replied: "You mean Manchester right?". "Yeah, Manchester, sorry!" answered Robinho.

Robinho's transfer overshadowed news of the other big-money deal on Monday, that of Dimitar Berbatov's 31m switch from Tottenham to rivals Manchester United.

However, it was later reported that the deal - funded by new City owners Abu Dhabi United Group - was concluded without Robinho, 24, taking a medical or even fully understanding the personal terms of his contract.

Still, the Brazilian could barely hide his relief at having forced a move away from Real, even though only 24 hours previous to the move he spoke openly of his "desperation" to join Chelsea.

And he said he hoped his reputation will not be tarnished by the manner in which he left La Liga champions.

"Unfortunately this kind of thing happens," he said. "Of course I don't want to fight and I don't like to be criticised in the press, with people saying I'm not a professional and that I don't follow what my contract says.

"I want to do what is written in my contract until it lasts! I don't want to be criticised and have my image damaged. Unfortunately this thing happened twice (with me), so be it!"

Real president Ramon Calderon had insisted he had no choice but to let Robinho leave the club, saying: "When he talked about his situation he cried and asked to leave Spain."

But Robinho hit back, saying: "I didn't cry. I just told him that I would like to leave. Since he was desperate because he didn't hire anyone, he pretended not to listen me.

"At the end, he made things even worse for me to leave, but I didn't cry. I only told him the truth, that was, if the club didn't want me to stay there, then I didn't want to stay at Real either. I wanted him to let me go, through the front door, without any fight."

Pele, the most famous Brazilian footballer, criticised Robinho's decision to join City, but the 24-year-old said defended his decision.

"Look, I accept Pele's criticism. He is the king of football. But, maybe, if he were in my shoes, he would have done the same thing," added Robinho.

"I think that only someone who suffered as I suffered in Real Madrid may have something to say on this. People from outside, judging (this situation) is easy.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7597822.stm
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: asylumseeker on September 05, 2008, 03:37:40 PM
P.S. Look Lula jes piss off Dunga and company by saying Messi is the best player in de world and that de Brazilian players should take a page outta ARG book ...
Title: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 10, 2008, 07:33:38 AM
Brazil legend Ronaldo has not given up on the idea of linking up with compatriot Robinho at Manchester City.
Ronaldo is still eyeing a possible future partnership with Robinho at Manchester City - though he admits his priority is to regain full fitness.


Ronaldo, who was named Fifa World Player of the Year three times, is set to take part in Monday's full training session with Flamengo after recovering from a career-threatening knee injury ahead of schedule.


He suffered the injury in February when playing for AC Milan, but is now a free agent after being released by the Rossoneri, so could join another club on a free transfer.

One of the clubs said to be interested in the former Cruzeiro, PSV Eindhoven, Barcelona, Internazionale, Real Madrid and Milan star are Paris St Germain.

"Paris is a city that I love and they have a great project to win the league title," Ronaldo told Gazzetta dello Sport in an interview. But he added: "However, at [Manchester] City I have Robinho, who is a great friend of mine. But we will see, in the past few days we have spoken.

"For the time being, my only aim is to return to playing, the rest will follow."

Ronaldo, 32, also has an option to stay with Flamengo, and stressed: "There's a great bond between Flamengo and me. It's the team I love.

"It's true that they would want me to stay. But this will remain a great dream because at this time I have no intention of making a decision."

He is hoping he is over his injury problems and can now focus on playing. I am training hard and I am really looking forward to playing again," he said.

"I've started to train with the ball and practising with some team-mates.

"I don't have much strength in my muscles yet but the knee doesn't give me any pain, which is the most important thing.

"One thing is clear, if I didn't have a profound love for football, I would not be here making all these sacrifices."

The possibility of linking up with Robinho, though, may have to remain a dream, as Manchester City are thought to have gone off the idea of signing Ronaldo since Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan acquired the English Premier League club.

Mark Hinton, Goal.com

Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: Ngozi on October 10, 2008, 09:21:27 AM
I don't rate Robinho as I used to ... too weak, too inconsistent and he whines too much
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: spideybuff on October 10, 2008, 09:23:36 AM
Doh know why the man doh just stay quiet and play with Flamengo and get a rennaiassance like Adriano, before he start to talk about big moves to clubs that doh want him.

Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: kaisocagoals on October 10, 2008, 09:57:35 AM
but people will NEVER FORGET dat he was with a tranny :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: Ngozi on October 10, 2008, 10:13:29 AM
but people will NEVER FORGET dat he was with a tranny :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Oh lawd
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: NUFF on October 10, 2008, 10:36:04 AM
Robinho career will suffer until he leave England. 
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 10, 2008, 10:50:06 AM
but people will NEVER FORGET dat he was with a tranny :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
wrong one
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2008, 11:40:37 AM
Doh know why the man doh just stay quiet and play with Flamengo and get a rennaiassance like Adriano, before he start to talk about big moves to clubs that doh want him.



Never underestimate willpower.
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: Trini Madness on October 10, 2008, 12:45:55 PM
Robinho career will suffer until he leave England. 

i say de same thing
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: kaisocagoals on October 10, 2008, 02:34:25 PM
Robinho career will suffer until he leave England. 

but Shaun Wright-Philips will blossom into a lethal small man...
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: Deeks on October 10, 2008, 03:09:29 PM
Money talks, common sense walks.
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 10, 2008, 06:00:45 PM
I don't rate Robinho as I used to ... too weak, too inconsistent and he whines too much

Mark Hughes playing the man as an out and out striker.  He too small to play as a target; he needs to get stronger for this league, because he will get roughed up, and will not get the calls he used to get in Spain.  Hughes needs to go out and buy a target striker  (a la Torres, Adriano, Ibrah, Berbatov) in January.  Robinho is a wide striker, or a man to play a roaming role behind the main striker.
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: kaisocagoals on October 10, 2008, 06:17:23 PM
I don't rate Robinho as I used to ... too weak, too inconsistent and he whines too much

Mark Hughes playing the man as an out and out striker.  He too small to play as a target; he needs to get stronger for this league, because he will get roughed up, and will get the calls he used to get in Spain.  Hughes need to go out and buy a target striker  (a la Torres, Adriano, Ibrah, Berbatov) in January.  Robinho is a wide striker, or a man to play a roaming role behind the main striker.

Every litre of petrol sold in Europe pretty much goes in to their coffers...

I does take de bus...lol

3-2!!! Take dat in yuh craw...

de Arabs go buy in January... it might even be Klose than you think...
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: Midknight on October 11, 2008, 12:58:32 AM
Hughes needs to go out and buy a target striker  (a la Torres, Adriano, Ibrah, Berbatov)

Is Berbatov a target striker?
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: dinho on October 11, 2008, 07:54:20 AM
but people will NEVER FORGET dat he was with a tranny :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
wrong one

both!
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 11, 2008, 09:45:16 AM
Hughes needs to go out and buy a target striker  (a la Torres, Adriano, Ibrah, Berbatov)

Is Berbatov a target striker?

Can he not play all the way up top, and hold up the play?  Doesn't he do that?  He plays with his back against the goal very well, is big and strong, and can finish on his own too.
Title: Re: Ronaldo Still Eyes Robinho Link-Up At City
Post by: giggsy11 on October 11, 2008, 09:49:12 AM
Robinho career will suffer until he leave England. 

Denilson dos!
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: giggsy11 on December 21, 2008, 09:42:39 AM
Ah wonder what Robinho thinking after watching the 'great' Manchester City who can be as big as Real lose to WBA to cement their position in the relegation zone? Ah wonder if Real starting to look good again? I will take bets that he will be on another team by 2010! Mark Hughes will be gone by next year.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Bitter on December 21, 2008, 12:48:13 PM
It easy to go to a top team and play at a high level.

Robinho take a risk as a player, but certainly not financially. I still think that it is better for the league to have the best players on teams outside the top 4. Otherwise, what is the point as a fan? To dream of coming 6th?

I think Man City have potential, they need the right combination of coach and players. Probably should have kept Sven. Still though 3 points moves you from 18 to 13.

I hope Robinho stay and see out the task, don't punk out now. You took the money, now do the job.


Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Big Magician on December 21, 2008, 02:26:11 PM
Robinho took de risk ??...lol...come nah...dis is about money papa
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: giggsy11 on December 21, 2008, 02:30:40 PM
It easy to go to a top team and play at a high level.

Robinho take a risk as a player, but certainly not financially. I still think that it is better for the league to have the best players on teams outside the top 4. Otherwise, what is the point as a fan? To dream of coming 6th?

I think Man City have potential, they need the right combination of coach and players. Probably should have kept Sven. Still though 3 points moves you from 18 to 13.

I hope Robinho stay and see out the task, don't punk out now. You took the money, now do the job.





It will be interesting to see how he  chooses to deal with this type of adversity. Right now no part of City's team playing well. It appears to be combination of struggling to deal with the heightened expectations including the manager, poor form, lack of depth or quality players.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: kev on December 21, 2008, 03:22:51 PM
Strange situation for the Man City players, the club is going on about big name players and how much tehy are going to spend etc.  It makes me wonder how many of the players are thinking they are going to be replaced anyway and are just going through the motions knowing they don't have a longterm future at the club.  I am not suggesting all the players are thinking taht but surely some must be and how much is it effecting the performances, there are rumours of jealousy and favouritism towards Robinho. 

You then have to ask yourself how big a payday have the club got to make it for the top players to join given their present position and if there are wholesale changes how will that effect the team getting to know eachother, results and feelings of the present squad. It really is an unusual situation and it will be interesting to see how it pans out in January.  I suspect the club may change its targets to mostly players already playing in the Prem rather than mostly from abroad, to get them up the league quickly.
Title: Re: Robinho sold to.........Man City
Post by: Big Magician on December 21, 2008, 07:41:32 PM
good point Kev
Title: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Observer on January 28, 2009, 06:42:42 AM
Robinho stands accused. Apparently the evidence was on the way to Rio he was singing in the airplane a Bob Marley tune "said I had to hit and run."  ;D

According to reports in the British press, Robinho has been arrested following allegations of sexual assault. He gave a DNA sample, as is customary in these cases, before being photographed, questioned, and finally released on bail.

It seems that the Manchester City forward was taken in for questioning in relation to an incident at a nightclub in Leeds on January 14.

An 18-year-old woman claims that she was sexually assaulted and the police have been speaking to the Brazilian international as part of a 'criminal investigation'.

Robinho has denied the accusations. His spokesman, Chris Nathaniel, released a statement on the player's official website reading: "We can confirm that Robinho met the police today, as pre-arranged and as part of a criminal investigation.

"He (Robinho) strenuously denies any allegation of wrongdoing or criminality and is happy to cooperate with the police if required further."

West Yorkshire Police have confirmed reports that a man was arrested and released on bail on January 27, but would not give details of his identity
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Ngozi on January 28, 2009, 07:34:54 AM
What wrong with this retarded youth?
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: acb on January 28, 2009, 08:13:27 AM
What wrong with this retarded youth?

who? .... Robinho or the 18 year old girl that accuses him?
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Andre on January 28, 2009, 08:14:03 AM
this explain him running away to brazil?
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: UnWiseSage (aka Jahyute) on January 28, 2009, 08:20:10 AM
hmmm, this is a cheeky one.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 28, 2009, 08:36:23 AM
he put down ah kobe.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Big Magician on January 28, 2009, 08:40:31 AM
oh my...
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: giggsy11 on January 28, 2009, 09:23:59 AM
this explain him running away to brazil?


Maybe he run home tuh hide the evidence?
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: dinho on January 28, 2009, 10:00:48 AM
they saying now he went back for family reasons, but there may be more to come in this one..

check this paparazzi thread (http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=12414&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

:thinking:

... as first reported here.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: acb on January 28, 2009, 10:04:05 AM
they saying now he went back for family reasons, but there may be more to come in this one..

check this paparazzi thread (http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=12414&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

:thinking:

... as first reported here.

we need to somehow merge the sobriquets of Omarldinho and Perez Hilton.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 28, 2009, 10:04:42 AM
City's going down with a Billion in the bank
A billion in the bank
A billion in the bank
City's going down with a Billion in the bank
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: FF on January 28, 2009, 10:53:51 AM
Robinho could hold down anybody?? come nah man
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: giggsy11 on January 28, 2009, 11:31:14 AM
Robinho could hold down anybody?? come nah man


Question is who at City can hold down Robinho? I don't know anything about this situation, not passing judgement but somebody needs tuh get a hold of him before he ruins his career. He is young, rich and believes he can do whatever he likes and it appears that includes taking for granted his talent, profession and opportunities he has been blessed with. For his sakes I hope he grows up before he loses it all.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 28, 2009, 11:44:22 AM
Robinho could hold down anybody?? come nah man


Question is who at City can hold down Robinho? I don't know anything about this situation, not passing judgement but somebody needs tuh get a hold of him before he ruins his career. He is young, rich and believes he can do whatever he likes and it appears that includes taking for granted his talent, profession and opportunities he has been blessed with. For his sakes I hope he grows up before he loses it all.

   There is nowhere from down but up!  Robinho eh have to look no further than his fellow Brazilian, Adriano.  I would have never thought that he would be able to come back so soon, so strong (the jury's still out, though) from his own problems.......that is, of course, if Robinho want to get his career "back on track."
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Andre on January 28, 2009, 12:00:00 PM
Robinho could hold down anybody?? come nah man

true dat!

this could be another fishy case of a football golddigger.

we go see.

in truth, out of all the footballer rape cases, how many footballers ever get lock up. some i could think of that amount to nothing:

- van persie
- cristiano ronaldo
- man u Christmas party
- ashley cole & friends roast
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Bourbon on January 28, 2009, 12:28:38 PM
 Well like nobody eh have a news story..so look one here.  (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/7855107.stm)

Quote
Manchester City forward Robinho has been arrested and bailed by police investigating an alleged sex assault.

The Brazilian international, 25, met police as part of a "criminal investigation" into the alleged attack at a nightclub in Leeds.

Robinho "strenuously denied any allegation of wrongdoing" and had been released on bail, his spokesman said.

West Yorkshire Police said a man had been arrested on Tuesday in connection with an alleged incident on 14 January.

Me eh lying nah.....if i was a footballer like dem....i woulda be rel paranoid.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 28, 2009, 12:49:43 PM
by he runnin admits guilt
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Bourbon on January 28, 2009, 01:04:09 PM
by he runnin admits guilt

Well....when it was learnt that he left england without permission he said that city knew he was going. He claimed he was promised some time off for his birthday and he didnt know why they were acting surprised because they dropped him to the airport. He also said he had to go back to Brazil to sort out something with his son's passport. So...me eh know.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: JDB on January 28, 2009, 01:10:27 PM
Robinho could hold down anybody?? come nah man

true dat!

this could be another fishy case of a football golddigger.

we go see.

in truth, out of all the footballer rape cases, how many footballers ever get lock up. some i could think of that amount to nothing:

- van persie
- cristiano ronaldo
- man u Christmas party
- ashley cole & friends roast

Couldn't agree more. I sympathetic to any girl that gets assualted but there have been too many examples of false claims being made against footballers.

Based on past history, until there is more information, it is more likely that this is a false claim or some type of misunderstanding.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 28, 2009, 01:55:35 PM
by he runnin admits guilt

Well....when it was learnt that he left england without permission he said that city knew he was going. He claimed he was promised some time off for his birthday and he didnt know why they were acting surprised because they dropped him to the airport. He also said he had to go back to Brazil to sort out something with his son's passport. So...me eh know.
when somebody want money borrow from u,u does hear all kinda story.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: redtrinigirl on January 29, 2009, 06:13:47 AM
Steups! Look, these Ho's does real get on my nerves yuh know. I doh know what it is. It is actually the top aspiration of young girls here to be a WAG. From all 14/15 they in the tanning salon, getting hair extensions, trying to be lookalikes to whoever their favourite WAG is. And all their time is spent trying to get into night clubs and places where they know footballers go. Pathetic.

I have gone out with some footballers, and you just cannot describe it. The term feeding frenzy comes to mind. Bold faced aggressive attempts to "pull" a footballer. All yuh have to do is let it be known, footballers hanging out over there, and they reach. Arms and boobs all over ah man front, rubbing up on man while they saying "Hi" to them, conveniently letting a boob slip out, raising up dey skirt while they dancing while watching their intended victim seductively. And yuh could see none of these chicks older than 21. I does just watch dem and shake my head.

As a woman ah sorry to say this, but anytime I hear any kind of assault allegation against a footballer I have one of two opinions. Either she damn well lie, or she look for it. Either way, they looking to sell their story to the newspapers.

My only questions is, why won't these footballers learn? Stay away from these Ho's!
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: kicker on January 29, 2009, 09:05:47 AM
Stay away from these Ho's!

Easier said than done. (And I eh no footballer  ;D)

As the old adage goes: A man is just a man....
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Marcos on January 29, 2009, 09:11:04 AM
yuh could be a man, but yuh eh hadda be a dog tho'

A little discretion is always good too. You think men like Jordan never used to do dey ting? They just were smart about it.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: JDB on January 29, 2009, 09:16:39 AM
Stay away from these Ho's!

Easier said than done. (And I eh no footballer  ;D)

As the old adage goes: A man is just a man....

A great Poet once said

Why must I feel like that
Why must I chase the cat
Nothin' but the dog in me


Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: kicker on January 29, 2009, 09:24:33 AM
yuh could be a man, but yuh eh hadda be a dog tho'

A little discretion is always good too. You think men like Jordan never used to do dey ting? They just were smart about it.

Yeah true, yuh hadda know how to fly below the radar- that is the key...
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: spideybuff on January 29, 2009, 11:21:39 AM
yuh could be a man, but yuh eh hadda be a dog tho'

A little discretion is always good too. You think men like Jordan never used to do dey ting? They just were smart about it.

Yeah true, yuh hadda know how to fly below the radar- that is the key...

In this day of cell phone cameras, that real hard to do. Kobe pay off his own and she still went to court. There is not much u could do besides keep your dick in your pants cause it depends on the character of the girl involved.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Big Magician on January 29, 2009, 11:26:48 AM
red trini guyl...good post... i shoulda never stop playing fittball fuh guitar nah...shit

listen to the Amy Winehouse song "FU#K ME PUMPS"
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Filho on January 29, 2009, 11:31:44 AM
is not jess the girls nah. for sure some of these ballers going out and feel they could do what they want. the girls do the chasing feeling they could handle their biz..but they doh realize what kinda killas they dealing wit. now and then one of them does bite off more than they could chew. is young girls who sometimes doh have a clue. feel dey are players and buck up on a baller who doh business. sure, some of the girls are demons. but i feel they have nuff ballers who are demons too.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Andre on January 29, 2009, 11:38:31 AM
Steups! Look, these Ho's does real get on my nerves yuh know. I doh know what it is. It is actually the top aspiration of young girls here to be a WAG. From all 14/15 they in the tanning salon, getting hair extensions, trying to be lookalikes to whoever their favourite WAG is. And all their time is spent trying to get into night clubs and places where they know footballers go. Pathetic.

I have gone out with some footballers, and you just cannot describe it. The term feeding frenzy comes to mind. Bold faced aggressive attempts to "pull" a footballer. All yuh have to do is let it be known, footballers hanging out over there, and they reach. Arms and boobs all over ah man front, rubbing up on man while they saying "Hi" to them, conveniently letting a boob slip out, raising up dey skirt while they dancing while watching their intended victim seductively. And yuh could see none of these chicks older than 21. I does just watch dem and shake my head.

As a woman ah sorry to say this, but anytime I hear any kind of assault allegation against a footballer I have one of two opinions. Either she damn well lie, or she look for it. Either way, they looking to sell their story to the newspapers.

My only questions is, why won't these footballers learn? Stay away from these Ho's!

RTG,

de sisters just trying to get ahead in life. u cyah hate on dem 4 dat.

anyhow, suppose u playing in league 1 or 2? or d conference? they still willing to give it up?

a english partner tell me dem girl eh want no footballer playing below the championship.

so if u get relegated, the cyat bonus gone?
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: acb on January 29, 2009, 11:40:28 AM
make it rain
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: ckhan on January 29, 2009, 11:45:10 AM
make it rain on dem.....
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: dinho on January 29, 2009, 12:50:11 PM
yuh could be a man, but yuh eh hadda be a dog tho'

A little discretion is always good too. You think men like Jordan never used to do dey ting? They just were smart about it.

so wait.. from what u saying can i infer that as long as yuh smart about it that means yuh is not ah dog?
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: acb on January 29, 2009, 12:54:19 PM
yuh could be a man, but yuh eh hadda be a dog tho'

A little discretion is always good too. You think men like Jordan never used to do dey ting? They just were smart about it.

so wait.. from what u saying can i infer that as long as yuh smart about it that means yuh is not ah dog?


what happens in Vegas ... stays in Vegas.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: FF on January 29, 2009, 01:09:51 PM
what de eye doh see... de heart doh grieve!
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: dinho on January 29, 2009, 01:13:40 PM
what de eye doh see... de heart doh grieve!

what happens in Vegas ... stays in Vegas.

agreed, but all that means is yuh is ah smart dog and not ah schupit dog.

doh study me tho, i just playing devil's advocate.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: Marcos on January 29, 2009, 04:58:37 PM
yuh could be a man, but yuh eh hadda be a dog tho'

A little discretion is always good too. You think men like Jordan never used to do dey ting? They just were smart about it.

so wait.. from what u saying can i infer that as long as yuh smart about it that means yuh is not ah dog?

I mean you have to be respectful and discreet. Keep a low profile so you don't embarrass yourself
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: giggsy11 on January 29, 2009, 05:46:49 PM
South American Football Robert Shaw covers South American football for The Telegraph.
Robinho's fancy footwork unlikely to impress
Posted By: Robert Shaw at Jan 29, 2009 at 14:53:06 [General]



While the allegations made against Robinho are yet to be proven, the story - one of the sort several 'loadsamoney' Premiership footballers have had to face  - is the latest episode in a career that is in danger of sliding away into the hypotheticals.

Ardent supporters might describe him as a kid, brought up in poverty and lacking in self-esteem,being prone to exhuberance. But it seems that Robinho's ego and the inflated prices he has convinced two clubs to pay for his services far exceed his deeds in European club football.

Robinho's best years - or perhaps moments might be a better time scale looking back from 2009 - have come in a Santos shirt and intermittently in national colours. An excellent Confederations Cup in 2005, injury making the heart grow fonder the following year in the World Cup and an outstanding Copa America in 2007 have helped Robinho to nurture the notion that he is close to becoming the world's best player. You might even be tempted to buy into that idea until his move from Real Madrid to Manchester City.

City for their part must be wondering what has hit them. Snubbed by Kaka they may now think they have hooked another footloose Emerson rather than a Juninho. City's powers-that-be talked about a project centred on Kaka, but it is not entirely clear what project they have had in mind with Robinho. His idea of the same seemed to be asking for City to sign Kaka as another playmate (think school yard kickarounds) - with Elano and Jo possibly on the way out of City sooner or later. In between trips back to Brazil and wading into Mancunian nightlife.

The warning signs are all around Robinho and among his teammates in the Brazilian squad. The ups and downs of Ronaldo and Adriano in recent times should prove a salutary, if not phenomenal, lesson. Off-the-field larking around was among the factors that may have cost Brazil's pre-Olympic squad in 2004: the assembled talents included Robinho and Diego did not even manage to make it to the Olympics. Indeed they are best remembered for Robinho pulling down Diego's trousers in front of the TV cameras - and failing to impress seasoned campaigner Mario Zagallo.

Unauthorised partying and delays in returning from after international games as after his virtuoso dribble against Ecuador in the Maracana in October 2007 has also got Robinho into trouble. Late flights back and equally turning up late for national training camps are part of the same picture.

But on and off the pitch and using any yardstick you like Robinho falls short. Even from this vantage point of a self-professed fan of Robinho, to liken him to Pele or Garrincha is laughable. He may only be 25 but it is difficult to see him leaving anything like the mark these stars did on club or international football. For Brazil the likes of Alexandre Pato and the conveyor belt of talent may make him less indispensable than he likes to imagine.

Garrincha's encounters got him into plenty of scrapes but the Little Bird did not face rape allegations. With two World Cups in his pocket nobody can detract from his undeniable brilliance, even if he was only able to play in Chile in 1962 through the dubious offices of administrators "disappearing" the semi-final officials and the match report which would have seen Garrincha banned from the Santiago Final.

The latest episode also prompts questions about what Robinho's advisers and the club are doing to safeguard a multi-million pound investment It may be time when Brazil get together for next month's friendly against Italy for two of football's 'Roundheads' Dunga and Jorginho to have a word with Robinho. In the meantime the fanciest of footwork will not allow him to avoid some fall-out from e recent events.

 
Media Group Limited 2006 - 2009.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: SUPA on January 30, 2009, 03:34:12 PM
Well r right, high hater, is me Supa, please say hello to my uncle Barretah  8).

Any way people, member it doh matter if yuh is a big supper star and yuh have millions in de bank. At de end of de day, we all do want to get away from it all and buss ah nutt  ;)  ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Re: OH oh Robinho
Post by: redtrinigirl on January 31, 2009, 02:52:00 PM
Steups! Look, these Ho's does real get on my nerves yuh know. I doh know what it is. It is actually the top aspiration of young girls here to be a WAG. From all 14/15 they in the tanning salon, getting hair extensions, trying to be lookalikes to whoever their favourite WAG is. And all their time is spent trying to get into night clubs and places where they know footballers go. Pathetic.

I have gone out with some footballers, and you just cannot describe it. The term feeding frenzy comes to mind. Bold faced aggressive attempts to "pull" a footballer. All yuh have to do is let it be known, footballers hanging out over there, and they reach. Arms and boobs all over ah man front, rubbing up on man while they saying "Hi" to them, conveniently letting a boob slip out, raising up dey skirt while they dancing while watching their intended victim seductively. And yuh could see none of these chicks older than 21. I does just watch dem and shake my head.

As a woman ah sorry to say this, but anytime I hear any kind of assault allegation against a footballer I have one of two opinions. Either she damn well lie, or she look for it. Either way, they looking to sell their story to the newspapers.

My only questions is, why won't these footballers learn? Stay away from these Ho's!

RTG,

de sisters just trying to get ahead in life. u cyah hate on dem 4 dat.

anyhow, suppose u playing in league 1 or 2? or d conference? they still willing to give it up?

a english partner tell me dem girl eh want no footballer playing below the championship.

so if u get relegated, the cyat bonus gone?

Steups! Look, doh make me sick. If yuh want to get ahead in life, get ah education or some kinda skills AND WORK FOR A LIVING like everybody else.

De majority of these girls leave school with not one O'Level pass. And refuse to work. You have to understand the culture here, the benefits culture, the money and nice ting for nothing culture. Everybody wanna be a WAG, wanna be Victoria Beckham. And they willing to do whatever it takes. Half de time you see a rape allegation story it's because they get bull and thought right, dis is it, ah set now. Only to realise it was a hit and run, so dey vex. Out comes de rape story so they could sell the story to the newspapers. It doesn't matter what they get in the papers or TV for, popularity of any kind means you're now a celebrity and could get in to clubs and make money from now on. As I said, pathetic.

And yuh see dat nothing under the Championship talk, tell dat to Sancho, he was in League One and dem Ho's wouldn't let him breathe.  :rotfl:

De first things clubs should do when they bring in a foreign footballer is have him attend a course, on how to stay away from these british Ho's.
Title: Barcelona wants Robinho for the champions league,WHY?
Post by: coachman on November 26, 2009, 12:58:22 PM
 ???Will he make the startihg team?
Title: Re: Barcelona wants Robinho for the champions league,WHY?
Post by: palos on November 26, 2009, 02:01:26 PM
???Will he make the startihg team?

Barring injury, you somehow think he won't?
Title: Re: Barcelona wants Robinho for the champions league,WHY?
Post by: Kayus on November 26, 2009, 07:46:48 PM
robinho would a nice addition. he would fit barca style of play real nice. but with the form pedrito showing and young bojan on the up and up, it pains me to say that pulling robinho in january is kinda.....unnecessary  :-[
still want him to go tho
Title: Re: Barcelona wants Robinho for the champions league,WHY?
Post by: JDB on November 26, 2009, 08:06:46 PM
Replacement for Henry, who would be free to go next summer if they got Robinho in.
Title: Re: Barcelona wants Robinho for the champions league,WHY?
Post by: coachman on November 26, 2009, 09:59:22 PM
Can't wait,Messi, Xavi, Zlatan,Robinho,Innesta football made Skillimple :beermug:
Title: Re: Barcelona wants Robinho for the champions league,WHY?
Post by: dwolfman on November 26, 2009, 11:08:37 PM
Not sure that Robinho would be a good fit at Barca. From a flair perspective, yes, he seems like a good fit, but the real art of how they play involves strong teamwork, hard defensive work as soon as they lose the ball and a lot of passing. Robinho strikes me as more of an individual player both in style and mentality.
Title: Re: Barcelona wants Robinho for the champions league,WHY?
Post by: kicker on November 27, 2009, 12:21:16 PM
Not sure that Robinho would be a good fit at Barca. From a flair perspective, yes, he seems like a good fit, but the real art of how they play involves strong teamwork, hard defensive work as soon as they lose the ball and a lot of passing. Robinho strikes me as more of an individual player both in style and mentality.

Robinho is a very hard working player...  His individual showmanship overshadows it, but he's not lazy by any stretch...He's a good addition to any team if you ask me- on his day he's as good as any- His consistency could use a boost, and I think that has alot to do with his mental strength/focus...but his ability and work ethic is unquestionable (on the pitch that is- I get the impression that off the field he can be a bit wayward)
Title: Re: Barcelona wants Robinho for the champions league,WHY?
Post by: Marcos on November 27, 2009, 01:04:11 PM
Robinho shouldn't crack Brazil's starting 11 either
Title: Re: Barcelona wants Robinho for the champions league,WHY?
Post by: jai john on November 27, 2009, 03:53:41 PM
Barsa wants to blow Real madrid and their reputation for producing Galacticos football out of the water. That is why they want Robinho. can they win with what they have ? of Course ! ..but they now want to put in some fancy footwork .and not to mention have the further support of 150 million screaming people from Lulaland.
Its all in the merchandising of the product you know ...its the wrappings they are working on now !
Title: Re: Barcelona wants Robinho for the champions league,WHY?
Post by: coachman on November 27, 2009, 06:24:25 PM
you maybe just right. :beermug:
Title: Re: Barcelona wants Robinho for the champions league,WHY?
Post by: andre samuel on November 27, 2009, 07:46:02 PM
Not sure that Robinho would be a good fit at Barca. From a flair perspective, yes, he seems like a good fit, but the real art of how they play involves strong teamwork, hard defensive work as soon as they lose the ball and a lot of passing. Robinho strikes me as more of an individual player both in style and mentality.

Robinho is a very hard working player...  His individual showmanship overshadows it, but he's not lazy by any stretch...He's a good addition to any team if you ask me- on his day he's as good as any- His consistency could use a boost, and I think that has alot to do with his mental strength/focus...but his ability and work ethic is unquestionable (on the pitch that is- I get the impression that off the field he can be a bit wayward)

Nail on de head kicker, u saved me some typing........lol

ah love it!!!
Title: Robinho lost in football limbo
Post by: Zeppo on August 16, 2010, 07:41:58 AM
Robinho in urgent need of fresh start

Robinho is in footballing limbo. He sat out Manchester City's opening game of the Premier League campaign  and although he might be in action in midweek in the Europa League, or possibly playing his football somewhere else before the end of the month, he needs to sort things out fast because this is a huge season for him.

I well recall his debut in the Brazilian Championship for an astonishingly young Santos side that went on to lift the title. That was eight years ago. Eight years from now, Robinho will be 34 going on 35, so his time at the top has probably already passed the halfway mark and yet a huge question mark still hangs over him.

There is no escaping the fact that so far he has been a big disappointment in European club football and it would be unfair to pin all the blame for this on the clubs he has played for - because even after playing some 80 times for Brazil, the same doubts surround him at international level..

(continue) (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/timvickery/2010/08/vickery_18.html)
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Flex on September 05, 2010, 10:05:37 AM
Robinho explains City failure
By Soccernet staff


Robinho has said his managers at Manchester City failed to understand him and admits he found the city "an awful place to live".

Despite his fee breaking the British transfer record when he left Real Madrid, Robinho ended a two-year spell at Eastlands on transfer deadline day when he moved to AC Milan, having earlier spent a spell at former club Santos on loan.

However, despite brief glimpses of his quality, Robinho struggled to adapt to England - particularly as he had intended to join Chelsea, with his ex-national team coach Luiz Felipe Scolari - and he feels Mark Hughes and Roberto Mancini did not get to grips with his mentality.

"Neither Hughes nor Mancini understood me," he told the People newspaper. "Perhaps they only believed in the sporting side of things, but that wasn't enough for me.

"There was a lack of contact between the players and the club. It was much like an office - to training and goodbye, to a match and goodbye. I am Brazilian and I can't offer my best performance if I'm not happy in every aspect of life.

"That was my problem. I am a special footballer and I need to be happy when I'm playing. That was the case at Real Madrid but never at City. Perhaps I should never have left Real Madrid.

"My destination was Chelsea with Luiz Felipe Scolari but, at the last moment, City appeared and I accepted. I did not decide the transfer. Correspondence is always between clubs and I am not responsible for what anyone will pay, but Mark Hughes called me and insisted I joined the club. He was decisive in my move."

His early performances had suggested he may ultimately prove successful in England but, with compatriots Elano and Jo failing to impress Hughes and making permanent and temporary moves away respectively, Robinho says he could not settle into life at the club.

"At the beginning it was positive, but England is a hard country and I had problems adapting," he said. "Having Elano and Jo in the squad was a real bonus. They helped me to adapt but then Elano left I still don't understand the motives behind his exit.

"I do not understand why people said things about us. We all demonstrated our quality in the team, and Elano and I were both then in the Brazil side. Perhaps Hughes did not understand how best to use us both in his squad.

"After that, Mark left and I don't think that Mancini had confidence in me. Going on loan to Santos was the best solution because, if I'd stayed at City, I would not have played in the World Cup. The loan was very successful. I recaptured my love of football, won a title and confirmed my place in the Brazil team. It was an excellent experience and they tried to extend my loan, but City had made up their minds to sell."

Robinho admits he was disappointed that City failed to become title challengers during his time at the club and found the climate in Manchester unbearable.

"When I arrived, the directors at City told me that, in a couple of years, we would overtake United, but the time has passed and nothing has changed," he said. "Manchester is a sensational venue for football but an awful place to live ... the winter, the cold and the dark nights. It's very hard for a young Brazilian.

"The Premier League is one of the best in the world, without a doubt. The stadiums are always full and the atmosphere is incredible, but not every footballer is able to play in England. The character can be difficult for a foreigner.

"The best stadiums are Anfield and Old Trafford because of their histories, and my best memories will be my first goal for City and how happy everyone was with me, and the support City fans gave me during my stay."
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: Coop's on September 05, 2010, 11:34:42 AM
After reading this article i'm wondering if these same feelings/experiences is what affects our foreign based players,is just that they don't have the options to go any where else.Nice read.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: asylumseeker on September 05, 2010, 03:38:59 PM
Reads like a fair perspective from Robinho. I'm told he and Elano go waaay back ... but IMV it would have been a surprise if it had worked out.
Title: Re: What is so special about robinho fellas
Post by: fari on September 05, 2010, 05:44:40 PM
Reads like a fair perspective from Robinho. I'm told he and Elano go waaay back ... but IMV it would have been a surprise if it had worked out.

yes asylum, i remember watching the game on fsc years ago...diego was on that santos side and in de first 10 mins he pull up, then robinho take over the show.   elano was on that santos side and i think alex (now of chelsea)...i had always liked robinho as a player, now i can't wait to watch milan this season, they have reall ballers now, ronaldinho, seedorf, robinho, pato, pirlo, prince boateng.
Title: Re: Robinho at last
Post by: soccerman on November 24, 2017, 11:10:42 AM
He's on the verge of serving a prison sentence in Italy
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42103736
Title: Re: Robinho at last
Post by: Deeks on November 24, 2017, 11:14:03 AM
That is what I am seeing in the news. If true, he has to pay the piper. But sad for a baller who appears to be a very nice, happy g-lucky guy.
Title: Re: Robinho at last
Post by: maxg on November 24, 2017, 02:52:53 PM
He's on the verge of serving a prison sentence in Italy
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42103736
Ah fella who has been in the game so long, can't be so dotish or drunk, unless he totally lost his mind, then is not prison, he need a bed in St Anns. Now if the Albanian lady (must be a Beyonce look alike- and not even then) and  3 or more of the other Brazilians say is he, then send the ambulance. I all for women rights but 'common' man.
add: and sloppies at that..I guess his buddies musta tie him down and throw him under the bus and a few maxis after that..Mama always say "friends will carry yuh etc " but she didn't say it was straight to jail   :'(
Title: Re: Robinho at last
Post by: Deeks on November 24, 2017, 04:02:35 PM
Neymar better watch his arse.
Title: Robinho Thread
Post by: Flex on November 25, 2017, 07:40:52 AM
Brazilian footballer Robinho sentenced to 9 years in prison for sexual assault.
T&T Express Reports.


MILAN (AP) Former AC Milan and Real Madrid striker Robinho was sentenced to nine years in jail by a court in Milan on charges of sexual assault following an incident in 2013, Italian news agency ANSA reported Thursday.

Currently playing for Atletico Mineiro in his native Brazil, Robinho's lawyer said in a statement that the 33-year-old Robinho denied the charges and will appeal the court's decision.

ANSA reported that five other men were also accused of sexually assaulting an Albanian woman and that another member of the group, Ricardo Falco, was also sentenced to nine years in jail. The other four men had not been found by Italian police, ANSA said.

Robinho's lawyer, Marisa Alija, issued a statement saying that "We clarify that he has already defended himself from these allegations, and insist he had no participation in that episode. All legal provisions are being taken on this first decision."

Brazil does not extradite its own citizens when they are sentenced in other countries.

Robinho began his career with Santos before leaving Brazil in 2005 for a three-year spell with Madrid. He then joined Manchester City in the English Premier League and moved to AC Milan in 2010, spending five years under contract with the Serie A club. After a brief stay at Chinese team, Guangzhou Evergrande, he joined Atletico Mineiro last year.

He has made 100 international appearances for Brazil.

Title: Re: Robinho Thread
Post by: Flex on October 13, 2020, 03:40:29 AM
Ex-Brazil, Real Madrid star Robinho returns to Santos on $271 monthly wage.
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By Adriana Garcia


Former Manchester City forward Robinho has signed a five-month contract with former club Santos and will earn $271 (R$1.500) a month which is just above the country's minimum wage.

The 36-year-old re-joined his boyhood club for a third stint as a free agent, having left Turkish side Istanbul Basaksehir shortly after helping them win their first Super Lig title last season.

"I will play for a minimum wage, but the most important thing is to be here," Robinho told the club's official website on Friday.

"I am well physically and mentally, obviously there is still a little bit of rhythm [missing], but that over time we will gradually evolve."

Robinho, who shot to fame after making his professional debut with Santos in 2002, went on to play for Real Madrid, City and AC Milan, among other clubs.

He won two national championships, two Paulista tournaments and the Brazilian Cup in his previous two spells with Santos.

"I have many fond memories here," Robinho added. "The fans can be certain that I will give my best to help Santos FC on and off the pitch.

"Santos FC is going through a difficult financial time. So this is the time for those who can do something. I want to help the club that always gave me everything. Santos FC has already done a lot for me and this return is still little."

Santos are going through financial difficulties and could soon face a transfer ban from FIFA over unpaid debts.

Chilean club Huachipato are demanding Santos to complete the $3.4m deal over the signing of Venezuelan striker Jefferson Soteldo, while Colombian outfit Atletico Nacional claim they are still owed $774,000 from the sale of defender Felipe Aguilar.

Title: Re: Robinho Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 17, 2020, 10:13:25 AM
The deal is off. His legal issue unsurprisingly makes it not a good look for the club.
Title: Re: Robinho Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 10, 2020, 06:04:58 PM
Robinho: Brazilian footballer's rape case and country's gender violence problem
By Gary Meenaghan, BBC Sport


On 10 October 1980, a group of Brazilian women congregated on the steps of Sao Paulo's historic municipal theatre to protest against the increasing rate of violence suffered by the country's female population.

Each year since, the date has been commemorated as the National Day To Fight Violence Against Women. This October, it also saw a huge controversy centre on one of Brazil's biggest football clubs, and one of its best known players.

Exactly four decades to the day since that first demonstration, Santos announced that Robinho, a famous academy product often cited alongside Pele and Neymar as one of the club's best forwards of all-time, was returning home on a five-month contract.

Signing a 36-year-old free agent on a monthly salary not far off the national minimum wage might have seemed a smart and economical option: generate some headlines, sell some shirts, and maybe even benefit from a little extra fire-power up front.

It certainly attracted attention. Within a week of Santos' announcement, both club and the player agreed to suspend the contract amid intense media criticism and public outcry, with sponsors threatening to quit.

None of this should have been a surprise, yet it all seemed to catch both parties off-guard.

Robinho, full name Robson de Souza, left his boyhood club Santos for Real Madrid in a 20m transfer in 2005, the 21-year-old proclaiming he would win the Ballon d'Or within "two or three years".

Instead, 12 years later, in November 2017, he was found guilty for his part in the 2013 gang rape of a woman in Italy, where he was playing for AC Milan.

Tried in absentia by the Italian judicial system, he was sentenced to nine years in jail, but has never served any time. The sentence was suspended pending an appeal, which is scheduled to be heard on Thursday. Robinho has always said he plans to prove his innocence.

As if verification were needed of how such cases are viewed by Brazilian football clubs, just three days after the 2017 conviction Robinho played 90 minutes for his then-club Atletico Mineiro.

Atletico, colloquially known as Galo, said at the time they would not comment on Robinho's case because it was a personal matter. Fans reacted by erecting banners, including one that read: "Galo, your silence is violent. We don't accept rapists."

By the time his contract expired a month later, the pressure was enough to ensure there was no renewal, and the striker moved to Turkey, joining Istanbul Basaksehir. When his new team travelled to Rome in the Europa League in September 2019, Robinho was left behind amid reports it was feared he would be arrested. The Brazilian's legal advisors insist he is free to enter Italy.

Robinho has always maintained he is not guilty. In October, he gave an interview in which he claimed the woman was consenting and his only mistake was "not being faithful to my wife". Referring to the pressure that led to his contract with Santos being suspended, he added: "Unfortunately there is this feminist movement."

Yet for many in Brazil, the issue is less about Robinho's ability to prove his innocence, like he did in England in 2009 when the then-Manchester City forward faced allegations of serious sexual assault in a Leeds nightclub. Instead it is about why Brazilian football clubs continue to be so willing to offer contracts and playing time to players embroiled in criminal investigations.

The Brazilian Football Association could likely field an entire team of active players accused or convicted of crimes related to gender violence or sexual assault. Just one day after Robinho's unveiling at Santos, Red Bull Bragantino gave a debut to Wesley Piontek, sentenced in October 2019 to 16 months in an open prison for assaulting his then-girlfriend.

The most shocking case in recent years is that of former Flamengo goalkeeper Bruno Fernandes de Souza, who served less than a third of a 22-year sentence for ordering the murder of a former lover. Eliza Samudio was strangled and her body chopped up and fed to dogs, but Bruno continues to earn a living playing football for Rio Branco in the northern state of Acre.

"Football is big everywhere, but here in Brazil it's like a religion," says Monica Sapucaia Machado, a professor of political and economical law and specialist in women's rights.

"Clubs are organisations that can speak to the people a lot better than the government. They help create a culture, so when a big football club where Pele played and that represents Brazil everywhere accepts someone found guilty of violence against women, it says to the Brazilian people that it's acceptable."

nother rape case in the country made headlines last month. Video excerpts of a 23-year-old event promotor's sexual abuse trial showed her being humiliated to tears by the defence attorney of a wealthy businessman who works with footballers and celebrities.

In the immediate aftermath, several Brazilian football clubs posted support for the woman, Mariana Ferrer, but Santos, who in recent times have been very active in raising awareness of aggressions against women, did not. Kelly Gomes, a spokesperson for the club's only female-organised fan group, feels it is best the club keep silent.

"Up until this situation with Robinho, we were very proud of the club because we felt their support," says Gomes, who in 2019 helped create the Movimento Bancada das Sereias - the Stand of the Mermaids movement - that helps unite Santos' female fans and campaigns for greater respect for women within football grounds.

"In the past they did a lot of work to raise publicity about women's safety and domestic violence, but how can they speak about this subject now? They've lost all credibility. It feels like it was all a publicity stunt because we saw, when it comes down to it, their beliefs are in complete contrast to what they were promoting.

"Even their decision to suspend Robinho's contract offer was not taken out of respect for women, but rather because of sponsors. It was an own goal by Santos and they have nobody to blame but themselves."

Santos, when announcing Robinho's departure, said both he and the club had agreed to do so "in order for the player to concentrate exclusively on his defence in the ongoing case in Italy".

Thiago Arantes, author of Immortal Idols: The 10 Best Players of Santos, says he was not surprised by the club's decision to sign Robinho and believes the timing epitomises a wider disconnect with the public.

"Unfortunately in Brazil, clubs often have this mentality that they are above the law," says Arantes, whose 2011 book includes a chapter dedicated to Robinho's time on the Sao Paulo coast.

"It's like they live in a parallel world and it's actually very likely they didn't even realise the significance of the 10 October date. Santos had a great opportunity to make a stand, but completely failed to take it."

Statistics show crimes involving domestic violence, contempt, or discrimination against women that result in death are on the rise in Brazil, up 7% between 2018 and 2019. A sexual violation occurs every eight minutes and 85% of the victims are female. Or, put another way, during the time it has taken you to reach this part of this article, a woman has likely been abused in the country.

Many critics of Brazil's incumbent president, Jair Bolsonaro, who was elected in 2018, point towards the disparaging public remarks he has made about women during his political career. In 2014, he told a congresswoman that: "I would never rape you because you don't deserve it" and referred to the fact that his fifth child is a girl as "a moment of weakness".

Robinho himself likened reaction to his Santos move with the kind of media 'persecution' Bolsonaro often complains about.

He said he was "feeling like a Bolsonaro, everyone is attacking me", adding: "In Turkey and Italy there was no such repercussion. Here in Brazil, they prioritise bad news. People just want to get a 'like'. Look what they did with the president without evidence. They're accusing me without evidence."

Sapucaia Machado, the women's rights specialist, believes the country's football association should take decision-making power away from the clubs and prohibit them from signing players who have pending cases for violence against women.

"Football employs a lot of people, but clubs still act like domestic violence is just a bit of fun and something all men do," she says.

"We need to remember the clubs are very rich and powerful corporations; with more influence than politicians. They understand this kind of behaviour is something that sells. It is propaganda.

"We have not changed our culture yet. In fact we have lost a lot of ground in these past two years.

"That's why the Robinho case is so emblematic. It's a global problem and women live this kind of situation everywhere, but in Brazil this is our reality."

Ex-Milan player Robinho gets 9 yrs for gang rape on appeal
ANSA


A Milan appeals court on Thursday confirmed a sentence against former AC Milan and Brazil forward Robinho aka Robson de Souza Santos of nine years in jail for gang raping a 22-year-old Albanian woman in a Milan disco on January 22 2013.

Robinho was again found guilty of committing the rape with five other people. The court also sentenced one of Roubinho's friends, Ricardo Falco, another Brazilian, to nine years as the first-instance court did. For the other four, accused of gang rape while taking advantage of the woman who was drunk, the trial had been suspended.

Robinho and Ricardo were ordered to pay the woman damages of 60,000 euros. Prosecutors had requested jail terms of 10 years. Robinho, 36, who played for Milan between 2010 and 2014 scoring 25 goals in 108 appearances, denied the charges.
   
He has 100 Brazil caps and 28 goals for his country. Robinho joined Atletico Mineiro from Guangzhou Evergrande in 2016, and ended his career there last year. He had formerly played for Real Madrid, Manchester City, and Santos.
   
Title: Re: Robinho Thread
Post by: soccerman on December 11, 2020, 12:31:36 PM
Wow! 9 years. Sad to see Robinho got caught up in that, hopefully this sends a message to other young footballers and young men in general.
Title: Re: Robinho Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 11, 2020, 03:10:04 PM
Wow! 9 years. Sad to see Robinho got caught up in that, hopefully this sends a message to other young footballers and young men in general.

On the bubble of Ronaldinho and Robinho, three weeks left in 2020 to see whether Rivaldo ketch ah charge.
Title: Re: Robinho Thread
Post by: maxg on December 11, 2020, 04:24:33 PM
Wow! 9 years. Sad to see Robinho got caught up in that, hopefully this sends a message to other young footballers and young men in general.

On the bubble of Ronaldinho and Robinho, three weeks left in 2020 to see whether Rivaldo ketch ah charge.

:rotfl: :rotfl:  ah tired crying .. licks like fire, licks like peas for 2020
Title: Re: Robinho Thread
Post by: davyjenny1 on December 11, 2020, 06:58:29 PM
the law is making an example of them!
Title: Re: Robinho Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 11, 2020, 07:37:19 PM
He don't  have lawyers like CR7.
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