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Title: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: truetrini on October 31, 2006, 06:56:53 AM
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(CNN) -- The life of Jesus has always provided controversial subject matter for filmmakers.

From Monty Python's irreverent "The Life of Brian" to Martin Scorsese's "The Last Temptation of Christ," which depicted a sex scene between Jesus and Mary Magdalene, Hollywood's often iconoclastic interpretations of the gospel story have rarely failed to stir up religious fury.

Earlier this year Mel Gibson's bloody account of the final hours of Jesus, "The Passion of the Christ," was named the most controversial Hollywood movie of all time by U.S. magazine "Entertainment Weekly."

Appearing at No. 13 on the same list was the movie adaptation of Dan Brown's blockbuster, "The Da Vinci Code."

But a new film covering the last two days of Jesus' life is aiming to stir up a new debate about popular representations of Christ by depicting him as black. Furthermore, the film suggests that the persecution suffered by Jesus may have been racially motivated.

"Color of the Cross," written, produced and starring Haitian-American filmmaker Jean Claude LaMarre opens in around 30 cinemas across the U.S. on Friday. The film is scheduled to open to broader audiences next month.

LaMarre said the film was intended as a step towards rehabilitating the portrayal of black characters in Hollywood films after decades of negative stereotyping.

"The idea of re-imaging is very important to my vision of this story," said LaMarre. "For decades blacks have been the victims of negative imaging... Jesus is a great place to start."

Stephenson Humphries-Brooks, an associate professor of religious studies at New York's Hamilton College and author of "Cinematic Savior: Hollywood's Making of the American Christ," said the film was not the first to raise the issue of race in regard to Jesus.

The 1973 musical "Jesus Christ, Superstar" controversially depicted Judas as a black character while a 1992 film called "The Second Coming" featured a black Jesus.

But he said "Color of the Cross" was the first film to feature a black lead character in a straight interpretation of the Gospel story -- and that it could have a powerful effect on African-American self-identity by suggesting an alternative to the dominant white stereotype of Jesus as a white European male.

"Universally in American film up until now Jesus has been a white male," Humphries-Brooks told CNN. "For the first time you have a depiction of Jesus in the hands of an African American director and an African American cast that says what their particular community's understanding of Jesus is."

But could Jesus really have been black, and a victim of racial persecution as the film suggests? The makers of "Color of the Cross" claim the plot "remains true to Biblical and historical facts."

Humphries-Brooks said that mattered less than the relevance of the film to contemporary audiences and questioned whether an "authentic" account of Jesus' life was cinematically possible.

"The ancient world didn't conceptualize race as the contemporary world does. My guess is the film is really translating an American black experience back to the Gospel era," he said.

"In my reading, every Jesus film has been about the current moment. Film is primarily a medium of communication between a contemporary director and a contemporary audience. There's never been an authentic, historically accurate Jesus put on film. Will there ever be? We shouldn't expect it."

So far "Color of the Cross" has "flown under the radar" in terms of attracting criticism from Christian groups, said Humphries-Brooks. But he warned that could change after the film opened to public audiences.

"Normally when these films come out you have immediate responses from somewhat conservative Christian groups and Jewish groups because they are very concerned about anti-Semitism," he said.

"When Scorsese came out with 'Last Temptation" Christian groups just went after him and the film almost didn't make it out. With the Gibson film ['The Passion of the Christ'] Jewish groups, biblical scholars and moderate to liberal Christian groups were worried."

But he said cinema's widespread and cross-cultural appeal made it a potent forum for debate about issues of religion and race -- and said "Color of the Cross" made "a very strong statement, iconographically and religiously."

"In America the cinema is the place where religious values and self identity is worked out publicly," he explained. "We all go to different churches but all of us go to the same movies."
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Madd Ras#13 on October 31, 2006, 09:27:10 AM
ah blak god? r u madd, r u tryin tuh turn "blk ppl" into atheist? u all know dat we need our white saviour, stop de f$%kery now! ok  ;)  :devil:
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: football prof on October 31, 2006, 01:36:22 PM
This movie is not getting the recognition it should. I thought that a movie that showed black as divine would be talked about all over in movie reviews. But I have not heard much about the movie at all, except for in here and some black talk radio shows. The media usually tries to create controversy when there is a movie that depicts christ in any way. This time I haven't heard anything.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: WestCoast on October 31, 2006, 01:41:03 PM
as Joseph Ratzinger would say
"Keep quiet and maybe it will all go away"
 :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A942-2005Apr19.html
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: TriniCana on October 31, 2006, 02:49:11 PM
ah blak god? r u madd, r u tryin tuh turn "blk ppl" into atheist? u all know dat we need our white saviour, stop de f$%kery now! ok  ;)  :devil:

Madd ya Madd  ;D
white saviour ???
since when ???
ah thought was ah american dougla with long curly hair
and does wash she clothes in clorox

ah frien from china send meh ah picture ah Jesus....ah chinese in white
anybody who ever visited brazil will see ah real good looking spanish dude, toes well manicured
ah sure dem in africa have ah tall smooth skin black man with long rass and wearing ah dashaki
doh talk bout dem christens in india....

who knows what he/she looks like.
allyuh jus continue to pray to who allyuh accustom prayin too...if it working, doh stress it :beermug:

Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Grande on October 31, 2006, 03:32:18 PM
ah blak god? r u madd, r u tryin tuh turn "blk ppl" into atheist? u all know dat we need our white saviour, stop de f$%kery now! ok  ;)  :devil:

Madd ya Madd  ;D
white saviour ???
since when ???
ah thought was ah american dougla with long curly hair
and does wash she clothes in clorox

ah frien from china send meh ah picture ah Jesus....ah chinese in white
anybody who ever visited brazil will see ah real good looking spanish dude, toes well manicured
ah sure dem in africa have ah tall smooth skin black man with long rass and wearing ah dashaki
doh talk bout dem christens in india....

who knows what he/she looks like.
allyuh jus continue to pray to who allyuh accustom prayin too...if it working, doh stress it :beermug:



well I have a question fuh forumites...growing up as a Christian in Trinidad (or even a non-Christian), what does Jesus look like for you? I sure most of us have some kinda mental image. Curious to hear some responses.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: TriniCana on October 31, 2006, 05:40:06 PM
to truly answer ya grande
from small i was always told dis was jesus: a tall fair but yet tannish man with blue eyes, straight nose, long blonde hair with pink lips,
fingers and toes well mani and pedi cured, long white clothes and with the prefect smile.

den I grew up and realize dat all dem pictures of "jesus" was just ah artist impression of what "dem" tink he/she look like....and we all buy dat.

BUT from readings of ancient religious knowledge back in africa....I saw somewhere dat he is really ah black man with long black hair. Now me ain't saying is truth eh....ah read it somewhere and if only ah could put meh hands on dey book and author right now I would.

Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Jefferz on October 31, 2006, 05:47:42 PM
But I thought Morgan Freeman was already god.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: DeSoWa on October 31, 2006, 05:55:10 PM
Take your pic  ;D

(http://www.srichinmoysongs.com/images/people/jesus-christ-pic)

(http://www.ino.ir/Images/8409/jesus-christ.jpg)

(http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/uploaded_images/jesus-christ-712364.jpg)

(http://www.misspoppy.com/catalog/img/products/saints/jesus_christ_liberator.jpg)


Big Up!
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Grande on October 31, 2006, 06:14:55 PM
to truly answer ya grande
from small i was always told dis was jesus: a tall fair but yet tannish man with blue eyes, straight nose, long blonde hair with pink lips,
fingers and toes well mani and pedi cured, long white clothes and with the prefect smile.

den I grew up and realize dat all dem pictures of "jesus" was just ah artist impression of what "dem" tink he/she look like....and we all buy dat.

BUT from readings of ancient religious knowledge back in africa....I saw somewhere dat he is really ah black man with long black hair. Now me ain't saying is truth eh....ah read it somewhere and if only ah could put meh hands on dey book and author right now I would.



yeah Cana...from childhood I was exposed to de same...pretty much de same images that DeSoWa posted (except de last one). I have since seen a few different images...like a black man with long dreads, or an Arabic-looking man with short curly hair.

but whatever de image they are all artistic variations like you said...so after realizing that and letting go of de preconceptions, now I doh really have any kind of conception as to what he look like...so I trying to see how simply being uncertain (or not caring) will work out.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Organic on October 31, 2006, 06:33:16 PM
No one who living now know what god looks like. and thank god for that other wise that woulda jus fuel more bacanal.

thank god crisitans not as extreeme as some muslims other wise it woulda be we version of jihad..what is it crusades>>
 Belief is for mortals proof is for GOD.
we could belive how good look all we want. we  haave no proof. and thank god for that!!!
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Jefferz on October 31, 2006, 06:40:05 PM
who say Jesus wasnt ah pot belly arab?
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: pecan on October 31, 2006, 06:41:45 PM
how come is only Latins have de balls to name dey sons "Jesus" <Hey-suss>
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Grande on October 31, 2006, 06:44:04 PM
No one who living now know what god looks like. and thank god for that other wise that woulda jus fuel more bacanal.

thank god crisitans not as extreeme as some muslims other wise it woulda be we version of jihad..what is it crusades>>
 Belief is for mortals proof is for GOD.
we could belive how good look all we want. we  haave no proof. and thank god for that!!!

boy I think people who had proclaim to be Christians had committed atrocities just as extreme as some who proclaim to be muslims.

Whole indigenous tribes had get wipe out by Christians who proclaim dey was doing "God's work" when they had refuse to convert or give up dey land...Christianity was also one of de major instruments used to justify de slave trade and also reinforce colonialism in India, Africa and the Caribbean

look Benny Hinn brainwashing ppl to dis very day with his "pray and pay" method

yuh right, now we doh know what God nor Jesus look like but Organic yuh still eh answer meh original question  ;D

Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Grande on October 31, 2006, 06:46:15 PM
who say Jesus wasnt ah pot belly arab?

yea Jefferz he coulda be
he coulda be a cokie-eye eskimo too nobody know
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: truetrini on October 31, 2006, 06:55:47 PM
Jesus does cut my grass every two weeks....right here in Virginia!








He last name is Torres
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: pecan on October 31, 2006, 06:56:54 PM
Jesus does cut my grass every two weeks....right here in Virginia!








He last name is Torres

wat ah tell yuh!!
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Organic on October 31, 2006, 06:59:11 PM
No one who living now know what god looks like. and thank god for that other wise that woulda jus fuel more bacanal.

thank god crisitans not as extreeme as some muslims other wise it woulda be we version of jihad..what is it crusades>>
 Belief is for mortals proof is for GOD.
we could belive how good look all we want. we  haave no proof. and thank god for that!!!

boy I think people who had proclaim to be Christians had committed atrocities just as extreme as some who proclaim to be muslims.

Whole indigenous tribes had get wipe out by Christians who proclaim dey was doing "God's work" when they had refuse to convert or give up dey land...Christianity was also one of de major instruments used to justify de slave trade and also reinforce colonialism in India, Africa and the Caribbean

look Benny Hinn brainwashing ppl to dis very day with his "pray and pay" method

yuh right, now we doh know what God nor Jesus look like but Organic yuh still eh answer meh original question  ;D



que pregunta??
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Jefferz on October 31, 2006, 07:01:12 PM
who say Jesus wasnt ah pot belly arab?

yea Jefferz he coulda be
he coulda be a cokie-eye eskimo too nobody know

what i am more curious about is wether or not he was really the kind hearted saviour that he is said to be...

cuz A.) There is frequently an untold side to every story

B.) These are ancient scriptures that have been overseen for many many many centuries and are unlikely to have not been tainted by exageration any other kind of factual tampering, especially considering the blantant corruption within the catholic church.

and C.) its in human nature to create some big spiritual meaning to life to counter the hopelessness felt when you realize that life will end and then you and everything around you will cease to exist. Thus we make up religious messiahs to support this whole theory of "God"

I cant bother debating what he looked like when im not even sure if he existed.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Organic on October 31, 2006, 07:01:29 PM
Jesus does cut my grass every two weeks....right here in Virginia!








He last name is Torres
he mexican..if so..tell him hurry n send for de 30 other members of eh fmaily...yuh president putting up ah fence...fus is a ah cunny hole....before he spend the money in other ways..any hwo tell
hay-sues  to hurry
so after vagina hair stop allyuh cheap labour who will clean allyuh toilets....
lol
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Organic on October 31, 2006, 07:02:43 PM
who say Jesus wasnt ah pot belly arab?

yea Jefferz he coulda be
he coulda be a cokie-eye eskimo too nobody know

what i am more curious about is wether or not he was really the kind hearted saviour that he is said to be...

cuz A.) There is frequently an untold side to every story

B.) These are ancient scriptures that have been overseen for many many many centuries and are unlikely to have not been tainted by exageration any other kind of factual tampering, especially considering the blantant corruption within the catholic church.

and C.) its in human nature to create some big spiritual meaning to life to counter the hopelessness felt when you realize that life will end and then you and everything around you will cease to exist. Thus we make up religious messiahs to support this whole theory of "God"

I cant bother debating what he looked like when im not even sure if he existed.
yuh is a agnostic or an atheist?
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Jefferz on October 31, 2006, 07:11:21 PM
who say Jesus wasnt ah pot belly arab?

yea Jefferz he coulda be
he coulda be a cokie-eye eskimo too nobody know

what i am more curious about is wether or not he was really the kind hearted saviour that he is said to be...

cuz A.) There is frequently an untold side to every story

B.) These are ancient scriptures that have been overseen for many many many centuries and are unlikely to have not been tainted by exageration any other kind of factual tampering, especially considering the blantant corruption within the catholic church.

and C.) its in human nature to create some big spiritual meaning to life to counter the hopelessness felt when you realize that life will end and then you and everything around you will cease to exist. Thus we make up religious messiahs to support this whole theory of "God"

I cant bother debating what he looked like when im not even sure if he existed.
yuh is a agnostic or an atheist?

more so agnostic... Im simply not convinced by the idea of god... the only thing that keeps me believing and hoping in the slightest bit apart from my natural desire to believe in life after death is the fact that the beggining of existance, how it came into being seems so vast that it could not have been made by anything other than a "God"... however I dont bother to debate it too much becuase then it rolls onto...


ok... why is god allowing so much suffering in the world... then i think to myself... well... if there really is a "God" then i wouldnt ever be able to comprehend the vast complexity of his reasoning... im not against and im not for...

And what disgruntles me the most is the amount of death, destruction, confusion and chaos that is created in through the idea of God and what his real ideals are.
 
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: truetrini on October 31, 2006, 07:19:56 PM
Quote
so after vagina hair stop allyuh cheap labour who will clean allyuh toilets....
lol

canada...obviously!
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Tallman on October 31, 2006, 07:23:29 PM
Me eh see what is de big deal. Everybody have ah right tuh see him in any color dey want to; in our own image and likeness. De ting I does trip on is when yuh have ah non-white representation of God, Jesus or whoever and people does say how yuh blasphemous. Steups. Ah must say ah was surprised one time when ah went into a Russian Orthodox Chhurch and all of de art one walls depicted black saints and angels etc. just like what you would see in Ethiopian Orthodox religous art.

(http://www.comeandseeicons.com/cap19.jpg)
Moses

(http://www.arcworld.org/databases/Jesus.jpg)
Jesus
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: pecan on October 31, 2006, 07:23:37 PM
who say Jesus wasnt ah pot belly arab?

yea Jefferz he coulda be
he coulda be a cokie-eye eskimo too nobody know


what i am more curious about is wether or not he was really the kind hearted saviour that he is said to be...

cuz A.) There is frequently an untold side to every story

B.) These are ancient scriptures that have been overseen for many many many centuries and are unlikely to have not been tainted by exageration any other kind of factual tampering, especially considering the blantant corruption within the catholic church.

and C.) its in human nature to create some big spiritual meaning to life to counter the hopelessness felt when you realize that life will end and then you and everything around you will cease to exist. Thus we make up religious messiahs to support this whole theory of "God"

I cant bother debating what he looked like when im not even sure if he existed.
yuh is a agnostic or an atheist?

more so agnostic... Im simply not convinced by the idea of god... the only thing that keeps me believing and hoping in the slightest bit apart from my natural desire to believe in life after death is the fact that the beggining of existance, how it came into being seems so vast that it could not have been made by anything other than a "God"... however I dont bother to debate it too much becuase then it rolls onto...


ok... why is god allowing so much suffering in the world... then i think to myself... well... if there really is a "God" then i wouldnt ever be able to comprehend the vast complexity of his reasoning... im not against and im not for...

And what disgruntles me the most is the amount of death, destruction, confusion and chaos that is created in through the idea of God and what his real ideals are.
 

there is a logical argument to believe in God

There are 2 possiibilities: God exists or God does not exist

so:

1) if God exists and you bellieve ... you win
2) if God exists and you do not bellieve ... you lose
3) if God does not exisit and you believe .. you do not win nor lose but you hopefully have lived your life by a goos set of values (we can only hope)
4) if God does not exisit and you do not believe .. you neither win nor lose

So the 'best' decision is to believe because you have nothing to lose but every thing to win
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: truetrini on October 31, 2006, 07:27:06 PM
The best decision is looking for the truth.

Thats the only way to win.

Imagine people believe that yuh go dead and get wings and fly around in heaven???

But dey doh believe in evolution....steups.

Question:  "if they take ah single cell from yuh body...use de DNA and clone you...does dat new you have a soul?

Ah feel James Brown better equipped to answer this question LOL.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: pecan on October 31, 2006, 07:30:09 PM
The best decision is looking for the truth.

Thats the only way to win.

Imagine people believe that yuh go dead and get wings and fly around in heaven???

But dey doh believe in evolution....steups.

Question:  "if they take ah single cell from yuh body...use de DNA and clone you...does dat new you have a soul?
Ah feel James Brown better equipped to answer this question LOL.

I saw a documentary on dat once ...it was called .... lemme tink ..
....
...

Austin powers: the spy who shagged me"
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: truetrini on October 31, 2006, 07:33:07 PM
The best decision is looking for the truth.

Thats the only way to win.

Imagine people believe that yuh go dead and get wings and fly around in heaven???

But dey doh believe in evolution....steups.

Question:  "if they take ah single cell from yuh body...use de DNA and clone you...does dat new you have a soul?
Ah feel James Brown better equipped to answer this question LOL.

I saw a documentary on dat once ...it was called .... lemme tink ..
....
...

Austin powers: the spy who shagged me"
so yuh feel dat cloning is science fiction..or maybe a flight of fantasy?
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: pecan on October 31, 2006, 07:33:27 PM
The best decision is looking for the truth.

Thats the only way to win.

Imagine people believe that yuh go dead and get wings and fly around in heaven???

But dey doh believe in evolution....steups.

Question:  "if they take ah single cell from yuh body...use de DNA and clone you...does dat new you have a soul?

Ah feel James Brown better equipped to answer this question LOL.

but seriuously ... looking for truth and believing are not mutually exclusive ..

to quote Organic: Belief is for mortals proof is for GOD.  

But nothing wrong with looking for some proof sometimes to strentght your belief
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: pecan on October 31, 2006, 07:37:35 PM
The best decision is looking for the truth.

Thats the only way to win.

Imagine people believe that yuh go dead and get wings and fly around in heaven???

But dey doh believe in evolution....steups.

Question:  "if they take ah single cell from yuh body...use de DNA and clone you...does dat new you have a soul?
Ah feel James Brown better equipped to answer this question LOL.

I saw a documentary on dat once ...it was called .... lemme tink ..
....
...

Austin powers: the spy who shagged me"
so yuh feel dat cloning is science fiction..or maybe a flight of fantasy?

no ..cloning has been proven (wat was de name a dat sheep in the UK).

but if a human was cloned will it have a soul.  I think the concept of a soul is manmade.

When we die, we cannot comprehend what the next stage is.  I do not believe in sould per se.

Here is a simple example ... when we were in our mother's womb, that was all that we knew.  When we were born, that life in the womb cease to exist and we began a new stage.  We donot/cannot remember what the womb was.

So I believe that when we die, we move on and do not necsssarily remember the past.


Heaven as described in popular media does not exist as described.  Heanven is becoming one with God
 
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: WestCoast on October 31, 2006, 08:39:38 PM
no ..cloning has been proven (wat was de name a dat sheep in the UK).
meh gurl, I mean de sheep name  is molly  :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
now ah have to get derid of meh rubber boots ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: TrinInfinite on October 31, 2006, 08:57:13 PM
who say Jesus wasnt ah pot belly arab?

yea Jefferz he coulda be
he coulda be a cokie-eye eskimo too nobody know

jesus was a jew, de hebrews was in egypt for over 200 years, they mixed with the egyptians, you could almost say hebrews were a mixed race, jesus brought all colours and races 2gether, one of the wise men were black, everyone is from the same lineage, i think people study colour too much and 4get the message of the saviour...
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Organic on October 31, 2006, 08:59:50 PM
Quote
so after vagina hair stop allyuh cheap labour who will clean allyuh toilets....
lol

canada...obviously!
yuh say dat like i should be offended...lol..
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Jefferz on November 01, 2006, 04:51:27 AM
who say Jesus wasnt ah pot belly arab?

yea Jefferz he coulda be
he coulda be a cokie-eye eskimo too nobody know

jesus was a jew, de hebrews was in egypt for over 200 years, they mixed with the egyptians, you could almost say hebrews were a mixed race, jesus brought all colours and races 2gether, one of the wise men were black, everyone is from the same lineage, i think people study colour too much and 4get the message of the saviour...

how you know for sure eh??

you was dey??


stewps.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: truetrini on November 01, 2006, 06:22:37 AM
Quote
so after vagina hair stop allyuh cheap labour who will clean allyuh toilets....
lol

canada...obviously!
yuh say dat like i should be offended...lol..

offended?  why sir?  I expect you to be estatic..afterall, we will be offereing you employment.

A proposition that oftentimes brings joy.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Organic on November 01, 2006, 06:46:35 AM
Quote
so after vagina hair stop allyuh cheap labour who will clean allyuh toilets....
lol

canada...obviously!
yuh say dat like i should be offended...lol..

offended?  why sir?  I expect you to be estatic..afterall, we will be offereing you employment.

A proposition that oftentimes brings joy.
what kinda joy do u get when u clean your toilets..or should i be asking hey-sus that..lol
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: fishs on November 01, 2006, 06:52:58 AM
 The bible is the best selling fictional, romance, horror, coimc, science, philosophical, history book ever written.
This book was probably written by a group of Indian scholars who masterfully constructed a scource of inspiration to keep people west of the Indus fighting for centuries past and centuries to come.
Jesus being the main character in the book is mis-represented by being shown as white in most depictions.
However simple timeline deduction should make it quite clear that he is colorless, since melanin was at the time the book represents was in its mid development stage.

Quote taken from the book of Beezlebaub written by Adolf Hitler with noteworthy insights by Josef Stalin.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: truetrini on November 01, 2006, 07:19:07 AM
Quote
so after vagina hair stop allyuh cheap labour who will clean allyuh toilets....
lol

canada...obviously!
yuh say dat like i should be offended...lol..

offended?  why sir?  I expect you to be estatic..afterall, we will be offereing you employment.

A proposition that oftentimes brings joy.
what kinda joy do u get when u clean your toilets..or should i be asking hey-sus that..lol
oh no..I clean my own toilets....and you are right; no joy....I get the satisfaction of knowing that germs are being stopped in their grimy little tracks.

I was talking about offering Canucks the job of scraping farts off jockey shorts with ah wooden ladle or say....ah polished hoe..tings ah dat sort...yuh know.

 areal job.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: truetrini on November 01, 2006, 07:22:08 AM
The best decision is looking for the truth.

Thats the only way to win.

Imagine people believe that yuh go dead and get wings and fly around in heaven???

But dey doh believe in evolution....steups.

Question:  "if they take ah single cell from yuh body...use de DNA and clone you...does dat new you have a soul?
Ah feel James Brown better equipped to answer this question LOL.

I saw a documentary on dat once ...it was called .... lemme tink ..
....
...

Austin powers: the spy who shagged me"
so yuh feel dat cloning is science fiction..or maybe a flight of fantasy?

no ..cloning has been proven (wat was de name a dat sheep in the UK).

but if a human was cloned will it have a soul.  I think the concept of a soul is manmade.

When we die, we cannot comprehend what the next stage is.  I do not believe in sould per se.

Here is a simple example ... when we were in our mother's womb, that was all that we knew.  When we were born, that life in the womb cease to exist and we began a new stage.  We donot/cannot remember what the womb was.

So I believe that when we die, we move on and do not necsssarily remember the past.


Heaven as described in popular media does not exist as described.  Heanven is becoming one with God
 

when we die we doh remember anything..dat is why it is called death...like in no more..kaput..de end.

Unless yuh believe in fairy tales.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Dutty on November 01, 2006, 07:48:55 AM
The bible is the best selling fictional, romance, horror, coimc, science, philosophical, history book ever written.
This book was probably written by a group of Indian scholars who masterfully constructed a scource of inspiration to keep people west of the Indus fighting for centuries past and centuries to come.
Jesus being the main character in the book is mis-represented by being shown as white in most depictions.
However simple timeline deduction should make it quite clear that he is colorless, since melanin was at the time the book represents was in its mid development stage.

Quote taken from the book of Beezlebaub written by Adolf Hitler with noteworthy insights by Josef Stalin.

wimp boy...is pure hell in yuh backside fuh dat piece ah sarcasm

doh dead soon yuh know?? adolf and joe lookin to bat some scotch with yuh
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: pecan on November 01, 2006, 08:27:52 AM
The best decision is looking for the truth.

Thats the only way to win.

Imagine people believe that yuh go dead and get wings and fly around in heaven???

But dey doh believe in evolution....steups.

Question:  "if they take ah single cell from yuh body...use de DNA and clone you...does dat new you have a soul?
Ah feel James Brown better equipped to answer this question LOL.

I saw a documentary on dat once ...it was called .... lemme tink ..
....
...

Austin powers: the spy who shagged me"
so yuh feel dat cloning is science fiction..or maybe a flight of fantasy?

no ..cloning has been proven (wat was de name a dat sheep in the UK).

but if a human was cloned will it have a soul.  I think the concept of a soul is manmade.

When we die, we cannot comprehend what the next stage is.  I do not believe in sould per se.

Here is a simple example ... when we were in our mother's womb, that was all that we knew.  When we were born, that life in the womb cease to exist and we began a new stage.  We donot/cannot remember what the womb was.

So I believe that when we die, we move on and do not necsssarily remember the past.


Heaven as described in popular media does not exist as described.  Heanven is becoming one with God
 

when we die we doh remember anything..dat is why it is called death...like in no more..kaput..de end.


Unless yuh believe in fairy tales.

leh me ask you a question:  yuh remmeber beng in yuh muddah's womb?  yet ah sure yuh moms will say yuh was  pain when she was pregnat ..kicking she, turning an den, finally making yuh grand entry into the worl as we know it.

And jus maybe, yuh are right about death being final.  But you want to take de chance dat you wrong?  It doh hurt to believe as long as yuh doh impose your beliefs and fundamentaliz on other ppl.  Which i hope i am not doing with you ;D
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: truetrini on November 01, 2006, 09:10:21 AM
nah yuh safe with me...I love pecans.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: TriniCana on November 01, 2006, 10:13:16 AM
DEAD ???
dat word not in meh personal dictionary nah
cause UP and DOWN ain't ready fur ah oman to take over yet  :wavetowel:
so ah stick down here with at seta mad people :devil:
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Grande on November 01, 2006, 05:31:30 PM
too bad none of allyuh except Cana answer meh original question
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Cantona007 on November 01, 2006, 05:57:04 PM
Jesus does cut my grass every two weeks....right here in Virginia!








He last name is Torres
he mexican..if so..tell him hurry n send for de 30 other members of eh fmaily...yuh president putting up ah fence...fus is a ah cunny hole....before he spend the money in other ways..any hwo tell
hay-sues  to hurry
so after vagina hair stop allyuh cheap labour who will clean allyuh toilets....
lol


Breds, he building a fence, but ask yuhself... who it is REALLY providin the labour for that project?  Mexicans ent?  ;)  :devil:
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: Grande on November 01, 2006, 06:14:48 PM
Me eh see what is de big deal. Everybody have ah right tuh see him in any color dey want to; in our own image and likeness. De ting I does trip on is when yuh have ah non-white representation of God, Jesus or whoever and people does say how yuh blasphemous. Steups. Ah must say ah was surprised one time when ah went into a Russian Orthodox Chhurch and all of de art one walls depicted black saints and angels etc. just like what you would see in Ethiopian Orthodox religous art.

(http://www.comeandseeicons.com/cap19.jpg)
Moses

(http://www.arcworld.org/databases/Jesus.jpg)
Jesus

dat is surprising...especially fuh a Russian Orthodox Church. Cool scene though.

You are right everybody have the right to see their God in any color they want to. But if you have yours and they have theirs and so on, yuh can't help but feel de need fuh at least a unifying factor, or some sort of constancy. Or maybe it is to each his own, and we should not dwell on it. Hard not to, though.
Title: Re: New movie about Jesus...interesting
Post by: asylumseeker on December 24, 2020, 07:01:46 PM
BBC's Heart and Soul, 'Black Jesus'.

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The identity and colour of Jesus – and why it matters - has taken on a new significance in this year of protest and change. Seeing Jesus as a darker skinned Palestinian rather than blonde European is both historically accurate and theologically important, but it’s not a new idea.

James Cone, the influential US theologian released ‘A Black Theology of Liberation’ 50 years ago this year – and formally developed a radical new way of exploring the message of Christianity. While people often say it’s a ‘white man’s religion’, Cone emphasised Jesus’ identity as black, on the side of the oppressed, and Christianity as a religion of liberation.

Robert Beckford, one of the UK’s prominent black theologians, wants to explore the impact Black Theology has had, the implications for the church and whether seeing Jesus as black is having a revival due to the influence of black lives matter. In this programme Robert speaks to key theologians who studied under Cone; Professor Dwight Hopkins and the Very Reverend Kelly Brown Douglas about the social context and significance of Cone’s work.

He hears from Rev Otis Moss III from a Chicago based church which lives out black theology, and Pastor Jonathan Jackson in the UK. Robert goes on to explore how young Christians are readdressing Jesus’ identity in the UK with Chine McDonald and has a discussion about embracing the Black Jesus with Clare Williams, Shermara Fletcher and Joel Brown. Plus he’ll hear from American artist and iconographer Mark Doox about the depiction of a black Christ in Christian art.

Aired December 18, 2020.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct1cw9

On the BBC no less. Merry Christmas.🔥
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