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Saw this on you tube today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRIqLXIKlVk
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Hmmmm.... been on their site today. They seem cool for the most part.
But some of them out of f*cking order! What's with the derogatory comments about the players and our country. Jeeze! And what on earth is the obsession with the size of Yorke d!ck? Explain that one. Ah mean, they are wondering if Stern have a d!ck the same size as Dwight? Why would that even cross teh mind of a normal, red blooded, heterosexual man? ::)
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Hmmmm.... been on their site today. They seem cool for the most part.
But some of them out of f*cking order! What's with the derogatory comments about the players and our country. Jeeze! And what on earth is the obsession with the size of Yorke d!ck? Explain that one. Ah mean, they are wondering if Stern have a d!ck the same size as Dwight? Why would that even cross teh mind of a normal, red blooded, heterosexual man? ::)
maybe the weird=very few toon fans = Newcastle fans are just a bunch of "Wankers" :devil:
"toon fans in a pub in liverpool singing a harsh but funny song about sunderlands star striker Dwight Yorke"
toon?, yeah a bunch ah CarTOON Characters.........ahhh, to those few toon fans they can SOD right off...
HAY, look, here comes one now :D :D
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the caption on the video says that they are newcastle fans
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This is not Sunderland's Song but Newcastle's song about Yorke...These are the words.
dwight yorke where-ever you may
jordans a slag and ya son cant see
hes small and fat and hes got H.I.V
we are the famous toon army
Sunderland's fans APPEAR to have some class, though a few on their MB need to get out a bit more.....one was asking if we have an "Adult literacy problem" :rotfl:...He come an macco de site an cyar understand thing one ;D. And dem worse dan we wid dey own slang :)
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These are Newcastle fans NOT Sunderlands fans, they hate us big time, the song about Yorke is disgusting
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Hmmmm.... been on their site today. They seem cool for the most part.
But some of them out of f*cking order! What's with the derogatory comments about the players and our country. Jeeze! And what on earth is the obsession with the size of Yorke d!ck? Explain that one. Ah mean, they are wondering if Stern have a d!ck the same size as Dwight? Why would that even cross teh mind of a normal, red blooded, heterosexual man? ::)
i saw those remarks. And someone posted a link to this forum and some of them were making fun because they couldn't understand Trini English
now I have lived in UK for most of my life, and to see Geordies complaining that someone else's accent is hard to follow, well that real funny :rotfl:
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Hmmmm.... been on their site today. They seem cool for the most part.
But some of them out of f*cking order! What's with the derogatory comments about the players and our country. Jeeze! And what on earth is the obsession with the size of Yorke d!ck? Explain that one. Ah mean, they are wondering if Stern have a d!ck the same size as Dwight? Why would that even cross teh mind of a normal, red blooded, heterosexual man? ::)
i saw those remarks. And someone posted a link to this forum and some of them were making fun because they couldn't understand Trini English
now I have lived in UK for most of my life, and to see Geordies complaining that someone else's accent is hard to follow, well that real funny :rotfl:
That is funny... I was watching FSC where they have two opposing fans doing the commentary in a game involving the Toons, and believe me, I needed subtitles; the Geordie even referred to this and said that he refused to provide subtitles to the rest of us...
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I Dont find this is Funny and i now hater Newcastle fans.. i mean you could have sung about Dwight but u didnt need to disrespect the man son so
f**k OFF YOU JORDIE c**tS TROPHYLESS FOR 52 YEARS AND COUNTING
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http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=195773
Now can we just all continue to get along... ;)
After 3... 1-2-3
Stand up if you hate the mags... ;D
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I Dont find this is Funny and i now hater Newcastle fans.. i mean you could have sung about Dwight but u didnt need to disrespect the man son so
f**k OFF YOU JORDIE c**tS TROPHYLESS FOR 52 YEARS AND COUNTING
Small Mag, you see ONE video on YouTube with about 10 people singing and you hate ALL Geordies and all Newcastle fans? All clubs have their fair share of imbeciles.
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I Dont find this is Funny and i now hater Newcastle fans.. i mean you could have sung about Dwight but u didnt need to disrespect the man son so
f**k OFF YOU JORDIE c**tS TROPHYLESS FOR 52 YEARS AND COUNTING
Small Mag, you see ONE video on YouTube with about 10 people singing and you hate ALL Geordies and all Newcastle fans? All clubs have their fair share of imbeciles.
He was spot on man... ;)
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I Dont find this is Funny and i now hater Newcastle fans.. i mean you could have sung about Dwight but u didnt need to disrespect the man son so
f**k OFF YOU JORDIE c**tS TROPHYLESS FOR 52 YEARS AND COUNTING
Small Mag, you see ONE video on YouTube with about 10 people singing and you hate ALL Geordies and all Newcastle fans? All clubs have their fair share of imbeciles.
He was spot on man... ;)
Concurred ;)
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No need to go all crazy... the men who sing the song are publicly insulting themselves just as much as they are dwight yorke.
One day ah loyal Yorke fan or even ah strappin fellah that dont approve of such crass, primitive, vulgar, garbage, will give them ah good ass kickin.
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I Dont find this is Funny and i now hater Newcastle fans.. i mean you could have sung about Dwight but u didnt need to disrespect the man son so
f**k OFF YOU JORDIE c**tS TROPHYLESS FOR 52 YEARS AND COUNTING
Hey, hey...if you are going to tell all GEORDIES to piss off, you might at least spell it correctly !! So let me see: you like ManU, you going St. Mary's and you hate Newcastle ???...
Good thing we at least share a serious dislike for Jamaica and that can't be changed, Small mag :beermug:
I am backing Yorkie to be influential, Carlos to beat men like rain and Stern to score consistently...but when you face the Toon Army next season...I still expect Sunderland to lose !!
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Now I would like to see that on youtube :rotfl: :rotfl:
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I am backing Yorkie to be influential, Carlos to beat men like rain and Stern to score consistently...but when you face the Toon Army next season...I still expect Sunderland to lose !!
To the first three comments :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
but to your last comment
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newcastle will be left to wonder...WTFH ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I Dont find this is Funny and i now hater Newcastle fans.. i mean you could have sung about Dwight but u didnt need to disrespect the man son so
f**k OFF YOU JORDIE c**tS TROPHYLESS FOR 52 YEARS AND COUNTING
Hey, hey...if you are going to tell all GEORDIES to piss off, you might at least spell it correctly !! So let me see: you like ManU, you going St. Mary's and you hate Newcastle ???...
Good thing we at least share a serious dislike for Jamaica and that can't be changed, Small mag :beermug:
I am backing Yorkie to be influential, Carlos to beat men like rain and Stern to score consistently...but when you face the Toon Army next season...I still expect Sunderland to lose !!
Don't think so Spideybuff, Newcastle are a club in freefall with no money for new players and £100m in debt whereas Sunderland are on the up and we are backed by a consortium reputedly worth billions of pounds if you believe the rumours.
Newcastle are in for an ass kicking
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This is not Sunderland's Song but Newcastle's song about Yorke...These are the words.
dwight yorke where-ever you may
jordans a slag and ya son cant see
hes small and fat and hes got H.I.V
we are the famous toon army
Sunderland's fans APPEAR to have some class, though a few on their MB need to get out a bit more.....one was asking if we have an "Adult literacy problem" :rotfl:...He come an macco de site an cyar understand thing one ;D. And dem worse dan we wid dey own slang :)
Dis f*****g shit is disrespectful and disgusting, ah doh even want tuh deal wid dis thread. Nothing personal gryskwalker, but ah think de moderators should delete dis thread. We doh support and rate dis kind ah thing. Socafan, ah know we are all entitled tuh behave and say what we want, but do you actually think dat is funny? Ah guess if was your youth dey talking about, yuh might be laughing also. KROSS. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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This is not Sunderland's Song but Newcastle's song about Yorke...These are the words.
dwight yorke where-ever you may
jordans a slag and ya son cant see
hes small and fat and hes got H.I.V
we are the famous toon army
Sunderland's fans APPEAR to have some class, though a few on their MB need to get out a bit more.....one was asking if we have an "Adult literacy problem" :rotfl:...He come an macco de site an cyar understand thing one ;D. And dem worse dan we wid dey own slang :)
Dis f*****g shit is disrespectful and disgusting, ah doh even want tuh deal wid dis thread. Nothing personal gryskwalker, but ah think de moderators should delete dis thread. We doh support and rate dis kind ah thing. Socafan, ah know we are all entitled tuh behave and say what we want, but do you actually think dat is funny? Ah guess if was your youth dey talking about, yuh might be laughing also. KROSS. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Supa...read again.....
Apology accepted in advance.
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hahaha i find this funny..u gotta take it light heartedly..
not everyone like that
Dont tink the mackems ( sunderland fans) are all angels..
D sure they wud be hating on the same way if dwight was at newcastle.
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is really true though, they could talk about Dwight if they want but they outta line talking about his son. Real uncalled for.
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I Dont hate Nwcastle because of it.. but its a disgusting song.. and f**k all JORDIES WHO SING IT
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is really true though, they could talk about Dwight if they want but they outta line talking about his son. Real uncalled for.
Agree, to bring his son into it is disgraceful, anyone who sings this song at Newcastle is scum. Some Sunderland fans are not angels but we would never sing anything like this.
And as for people laughing at your accents, comments have been made on our board about the way you type like you speak. We love it and think it is really cool. We have no room to talk as noone can understand us if they are not from here, we talk too quickly :D
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This is not Sunderland's Song but Newcastle's song about Yorke...These are the words.
dwight yorke where-ever you may
jordans a slag and ya son cant see
hes small and fat and hes got H.I.V
we are the famous toon army
Sunderland's fans APPEAR to have some class, though a few on their MB need to get out a bit more.....one was asking if we have an "Adult literacy problem" :rotfl:...He come an macco de site an cyar understand thing one ;D. And dem worse dan we wid dey own slang :)
Dis f*****g shit is disrespectful and disgusting, ah doh even want tuh deal wid dis thread. Nothing personal gryskwalker, but ah think de moderators should delete dis thread. We doh support and rate dis kind ah thing. Socafan, ah know we are all entitled tuh behave and say what we want, but do you actually think dat is funny? Ah guess if was your youth dey talking about, yuh might be laughing also. KROSS. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Supa...read again.....
Apology accepted in advance.
Dat part (apology accepted in advance) is funny doh. Yeah, but on ah serious note doh, we believe we saw what yuh meant, yuh was laughing at de part dat stated "Adult literacy problem". Accept our apology, we sure yuh would have noticed we didn't stay log on fuh long, we just ran through de thread real quick and close out. We was so upset wid de comments about Yorke son, dat we didn't take de time tuh understand yuh post. We are a group of breddahs, squad, crew, wey ever yuh want tuh call it, but we do have some principles over here, and dat shit about de man son, we doh deal dat kind ah disrespect, so understand de anger over here, doh take it personal. We doh promote violence, but punk or punks like dat, dat step in yuh face, and say something like dat, yuh have no choice but tuh empty one on dat individual or individuals. Peace out. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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I Dont find this is Funny and i now hater Newcastle fans.. i mean you could have sung about Dwight but u didnt need to disrespect the man son so
f**k OFF YOU JORDIE c**tS TROPHYLESS FOR 52 YEARS AND COUNTING
Hey, hey...if you are going to tell all GEORDIES to piss off, you might at least spell it correctly !! So let me see: you like ManU, you going St. Mary's and you hate Newcastle ???...
Good thing we at least share a serious dislike for Jamaica and that can't be changed, Small mag :beermug:
I am backing Yorkie to be influential, Carlos to beat men like rain and Stern to score consistently...but when you face the Toon Army next season...I still expect Sunderland to lose !!
whatever
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I Dont hate Nwcastle because of it.. but its a disgusting song.. and f**k all JORDIES WHO SING IT
Nice one :) :beermug:
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fellas take it easy this is the nature of songs sung on the terraces.
They are some foul awful sings sung by all teams, thats just how it is.
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ok, but does it have to be like that or should we at least try to discourage those types of songs.
Could the problem be too big to get people to stop singing those type of songs.
I know there will always be a certain element in society that will strive to attain the lowest common denominator of intelligence.
At the end of the day those types of songs are really uncalled for.
I did not even go there, which has now become my habit, when someone puts up a link and has negative comments.
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Ignorant assholes. >:( >:( Shame on you all to call out his son
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Could the title of this thread be changed? It's not a Sunderland song! >:(
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after some complaints I had to change the title
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drunk bastards :rotfl:
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I Dont hate Nwcastle because of it.. but its a disgusting song.. and f**k all JORDIES WHO SING IT
man i live in newcastle and i been to matchs i ent never heard that sung...they jus makin it up to piss off the mackems man.. ::)
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I have heard from friends who are Newcastle fans that is gets sung at away games. To be honest though, they probably don't have anything against Dwight Yorke (other than the fact he is a Sunderland player), they just hate everyrthing that is Sunderland AFC
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What if Sunderland met Southampton in the Championship playoffs? Who would you support?
Personally, I would go with.............Sunderland. I think Carlos is running out of time to play in the EPL and must be there next season. One way or the other.
I don't really care that there are 3 Trinis at Sunderland. As far as I am concerned...Jones needs to be in the EPL more than Yorkie (nearing the end of his career and been there done that) and Stern (already 30, not going to help our national team in the long run the way Kenwyne possibly can)...So it comes down to who I'd rather see in the EPL next season..Kenwyne or Carlos. I'd go with Carlos by a nosehair...Kenwyne still improving in the Championship. Edwards is 27/28...his time is now. And no...I ain't biased by the Sunderland crew who have joined our boards...OK..maybe just a little. Let's hope they both go through ;)
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Im more than happy to go up with Southampton in second place :rotfl:
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Well ill try to be hopeful and still soberly realistic... I think theres a decent chance that they both go up... Between the two I think Sunderland are more consistent, but I think Southampton are more explosive... they have some of the most talented players in the league right now...
and point for point theyre in a better position... quite frankly im hoping Southampton grab the top spot and that Sunderland go into the playoff... I have more faith in Sunderland facing the pressure of the playoff and comming out with a win...
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In the nicest possible way,I hope you're wrong jefferz.I couldnt stand watching sunderland in another play off.Its a cruel way to go out of a competition. 8)
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would be interesting if both teams get promoted
Go Sunderland and Southampton
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In the nicest possible way,I hope you're wrong jefferz.I couldnt stand watching sunderland in another play off.Its a cruel way to go out of a competition. 8)
indeed. I cant imagine how i'd feel if we had lost to Bahrain.
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Sunderland 3 Trini's to 1 ;)
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Sunderland has the edge for me...because of the Carlos factor. He deserves to be playing at the highest level. Keane also has the team playing some nice ball and it would be good to see them back in the EPL with this form.
Of course I doh mind that Southampton are doing quite well...if they both get promoted then I'd be a real glad man.
Let me tell you what would be niceness for the foreign-based for me:
- all our players remain injury free and play regular
- Sunderland is promoted by winning playoffs or automatic spot
- Southampton promoted by automatic spot
- George Burley say he want a defensive mid or RM for Southampton and sign Birchall (or if Kenwyne put in a good word) ;D
- Walsall get promoted to League One
- St. Johnstone get promoted to the SPL
- Kevaughn Connell move up a league
- Sparta Rotterdam breaks into the top 7 of the Eredivisie at least
- Dundee United and Falkirk wins some more games and Latapy finally hailed as the best player ever to play in Scotland (Larsson who?)
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Keep that support coming for Sunderland! :beermug: :-*
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No contest! Although I do have a soft spot for the Saints
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from my totally neutral perspective; ha'way the lads
;)
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Let's say both Sunderland and Southampton get promoted to the EPL.
That is no guarantee that any of our T&T players will be playing with those teams in the EPL.
Many promoted clubs use the extra cash gained from promotion to the EPL football cash cow bolster their squads in terms of TALENT so they can at least COMPETE and stay in the EPL and not get relegated.
We may all feel, and justifiably so, that Carlos & Kenwyne especially "deserve" to be playing in the EPL, but the reality is, if team management feel they can get a proven EPL camapigner or 2 in any of those positions our guys play, they might well sell our players to another Championship Division side.
I NOT WISHIN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN! I am just pointing out the realities of football life.
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Let's say both Sunderland and Southampton get promoted to the EPL.
That is no guarantee that any of our T&T players will be playing with those teams in the EPL.
Many promoted clubs use the extra cash gained from promotion to the EPL football cash cow bolster their squads in terms of TALENT so they can at least COMPETE and stay in the EPL and not get relegated.
We may all feel, and justifiably so, that Carlos & Kenwyne especially "deserve" to be playing in the EPL, but the reality is, if team management feel they can get a proven EPL camapigner or 2 in any of those positions our guys play, they might well sell our players to another Championship Division side.
I NOT WISHIN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN! I am just pointing out the realities of football life.
It will be interesting to see.
Usually the clubs keep the core players and bring in 4 or 5 starters at most. Two years ago Wigan had a hard time getting anybody because good players don't want to go to struggling teams.
Sunderland may be different because Keane will have significant pull for big name veterans and up and coming youngsters.
If Carlos is as valuable to the team as he seems he will be likely to keep his place.
Jones and Stern on the other hand will be unlikely to start because you need a proven striker in the premiership. Even players that score well in the Championship score enough to keep a team up in the premiership. Stern knows that well.
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Sunderland definitley...
i eh no Jones fan... but i hope he gets a move to the EPL
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Palos your eh talk u preach that is sports mgmt in the 21st C
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Let's say both Sunderland and Southampton get promoted to the EPL.
That is no guarantee that any of our T&T players will be playing with those teams in the EPL.
Many promoted clubs use the extra cash gained from promotion to the EPL football cash cow bolster their squads in terms of TALENT so they can at least COMPETE and stay in the EPL and not get relegated.
We may all feel, and justifiably so, that Carlos & Kenwyne especially "deserve" to be playing in the EPL, but the reality is, if team management feel they can get a proven EPL camapigner or 2 in any of those positions our guys play, they might well sell our players to another Championship Division side.
I NOT WISHIN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN! I am just pointing out the realities of football life.
Palos..I completely agree. But this is a purely hypothetical..'what if'. Look at it another way...Sunderland and Southhampton don't even have to get promoted for Carlos and Jonesy to play in the EPL if other teams come knocking with good offers. So I just saying..if they meet in the playoffs..how yuh go feel? And why? For me it has to do with wanting to see Carlos in the EPL asap. Does that mean that the only way for Carlos to play in the EPL is via Sunderland promotion? Nope. Does it mean that if Sunderland get promoted they will keep Carlos? Nope. I eh bothering to go there...just curious as to how people feel about the two teams with Trinis that have the best chance of getting promoted to the EPL..at this point. Your point is well-taken but I doh want this to turn into a 'if Southhampton or Sunderland get promoted, which Trinis will make the grade'...different kettle of fish :beermug:
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Of course de best deal is fuh both Sunderland and Southampton tuh get promoted. But listen meh, 3 T&T players is always better dan 1 T&T player in de EPL, Jones de Enterprise love yuh spirit and energy, but we have tuh go wid we new found love, which is Sunderland ;). HIGHLY BLESSED.
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sunderland.....also jones will play prem with or without southampton...and fihlo...some of your reasons are real crap...come on...
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sunderland.....also jones will play prem with or without southampton...and fihlo...some of your reasons are real crap...come on...
Good point. Yorkie and Stern definitely need a vehicle to go up and thus have to be in a top ranked premiership hunting club. Carlos could do with a good vehicle so that his midfield contributions at least look good, and Jones probably does not need a vehicle as much to go up to the premiership as his football life and resale value is awesome for quite a while.
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sunderland.....also jones will play prem with or without southampton...and fihlo...some of your reasons are real crap...come on...
doh study me..i just here to get the ball rollin' :beermug:
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Palos..I completely agree. But this is a purely hypothetical..'what if'. Look at it another way...Sunderland and Southhampton don't even have to get promoted for Carlos and Jonesy to play in the EPL if other teams come knocking with good offers. So I just saying..if they meet in the playoffs..how yuh go feel? And why? For me it has to do with wanting to see Carlos in the EPL asap. Does that mean that the only way for Carlos to play in the EPL is via Sunderland promotion? Nope. Does it mean that if Sunderland get promoted they will keep Carlos? Nope. I eh bothering to go there...just curious as to how people feel about the two teams with Trinis that have the best chance of getting promoted to the EPL..at this point. Your point is well-taken but I doh want this to turn into a 'if Southhampton or Sunderland get promoted, which Trinis will make the grade'...different kettle of fish :beermug:
I hearin yuh Filho.
To me Carlos Edwards is CURRENTLY de player, of all we Soca Warriors, best equipped to play at de highest club level NOW...be it EPL, La Liga, Il Scudetto, Bundesliga etc.
My problem is......I gettin a kinda sinkin feelin dat he time real runnin out.
Ah mean...wha more de man have to do to get a bligh at de highest club level? Carlos is 28 goin on 29 if ah not mistaken. Which mean he fast approachin he sell by date. If he eh get pick up by a top flight club yet, given what he has done on the biggest stage of them all AND his consistency at de Championship Division level, to me his chances gettin slimmer as time pass.
Kenwyne Jones to me have de most POTENTIAL to be picked up at de highest club level simply because HE STILL YOUNG. Coaches will quicker go for him than a Carlos.
The downside to Kenwyne is the same as the upside. He playin de most high profile, pressure filled, competitive, position in football. Double edged sword dey. If he not exactly settin de Championship Division alight (a eg of "alight" is like when he score 7 goal in 7 games when on loan wit Sheffield Wednesday), if he eh doin dat regular, den he chances slim too because despite he youth and potential, managers also like to go wit de proven entity at de highest level.
Dis one tough. I hope my sinkin feelin bout Carlos waaaaaaayyyyy off base because no one deserves it more than him.
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safe filho....cheers
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sunderland.....also jones will play prem with or without southampton...and fihlo...some of your reasons are real crap...come on...
Big Mag, ah doh know who yuh statement referring to, but doh take these posts serious meh boi, men just messing around and talking ah lil shit, here and there. We and de other members cud type what we want, none ah dem eh bound tuh make it tuh de EPL, cuz it still have ah descent amount ah games still, of course we hope things go in those 2 teams favor, but remember it is not over until it is over. So relax meh boi, and put ah smile on yuh face and enjoy de posts and dem nah 8). HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Ah want Sunderland to get promoted bad bad, dey going to start the new season with 6 points already in the bag from Newcastle. ;D ;D ;D
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How about this scenario:
2007-2008 season, Old Trafford.
Yorke wins the ball from Carrick in midfield, passes wide to Carlos Edwards, Carlos beats Giggs, puts the ball through the legs of Evra, gets to the byline and crosses into the box. Stern holds off Ferdinand and knocks the ball down to his new strike partner. GOAL!!! the first of the season for Sunderland's summer signing Kenwyne Jones!
;) ;D
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How about this scenario:
2007-2008 season, Old Trafford.
Yorke wins the ball from Carrick in midfield, passes wide to Carlos Edwards, Carlos beats Giggs, puts the ball through the legs of Evra, gets to the byline and crosses into the box. Stern holds off Ferdinand and knocks the ball down to his new strike partner. GOAL!!! the first of the season for Sunderland's summer signing Kenwyne Jones!
;) ;D
If that happens that would be great but I would hope none of these guys on here would see that live, why?
because we'll be making several RIP ''Forum Member'' threads because they would be so overjoyed their heart will go into overload & tonk out.
Small Mag will go insane minimum considering he's a man poo fan, he wouldn't know who to celebrate for.
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Ha ha, yes, I could see that happening. :rotfl:
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No contest! Although I do have a soft spot for the Saints
Is that cos of Lawrie McMenemy :rotfl:
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Let's say both Sunderland and Southampton get promoted to the EPL.
That is no guarantee that any of our T&T players will be playing with those teams in the EPL.
Many promoted clubs use the extra cash gained from promotion to the EPL football cash cow bolster their squads in terms of TALENT so they can at least COMPETE and stay in the EPL and not get relegated.
We may all feel, and justifiably so, that Carlos & Kenwyne especially "deserve" to be playing in the EPL, but the reality is, if team management feel they can get a proven EPL camapigner or 2 in any of those positions our guys play, they might well sell our players to another Championship Division side.
I NOT WISHIN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN! I am just pointing out the realities of football life.
Palos..I completely agree. But this is a purely hypothetical..'what if'. Look at it another way...Sunderland and Southhampton don't even have to get promoted for Carlos and Jonesy to play in the EPL if other teams come knocking with good offers. So I just saying..if they meet in the playoffs..how yuh go feel? And why? For me it has to do with wanting to see Carlos in the EPL asap. Does that mean that the only way for Carlos to play in the EPL is via Sunderland promotion? Nope. Does it mean that if Sunderland get promoted they will keep Carlos? Nope. I eh bothering to go there...just curious as to how people feel about the two teams with Trinis that have the best chance of getting promoted to the EPL..at this point. Your point is well-taken but I doh want this to turn into a 'if Southhampton or Sunderland get promoted, which Trinis will make the grade'...different kettle of fish :beermug:
I have a feeling if Sunderland get promoted that Carlos will be a regular in the side, John will be on the bench and Yorkie will be player coach.
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Ah want Sunderland to get promoted bad bad, dey going to start the new season with 6 points already in the bag from Newcastle. ;D ;D ;D
I love it, 6 easy points from Newcastle ;D That would be a dream come true
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Of course de best deal is fuh both Sunderland and Southampton tuh get promoted. But listen meh, 3 T&T players is always better dan 1 T&T player in de EPL, Jones de Enterprise love yuh spirit and energy, but we have tuh go wid we new found love, which is Sunderland ;). HIGHLY BLESSED.
Big respect Supa :beermug: I would be nice to see Southampton go up with Sunderland as they are traditionally an EPL club and George Burley played for Sunderland when I was young. 14 games left and I am getting nervous :o
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respect supa
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I have a feeling if Sunderland get promoted that Carlos will be a regular in the side, John will be on the bench and Yorkie will be player coach.
I think you're right. Carlos could be Premier class but we'll have to sign a proven goalscorer who'll probably play alongside Stokes or Connolly so Stern might have to wait for his chance.
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What if NEITHER Sunderland or Southhampton get promoted...then WILL WE be asking the same question next season? :o
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What if NEITHER Sunderland or Southhampton get promoted...then WILL WE be asking the same question next season? :o
sorry...that's not in the rule book. next question ;)
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the 'experts' at ESPNsoccernet have their say....
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=408287&root=england&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos2&cc=5901
..........That George Burley is a serial loser in play-offs may not bode well for Southampton, though his brand of attractive football is usually enough to ensure his teams progress at least that far. While the precocious Gareth Bale has attracted most of the attention, the rehabilitation of Grzegorz Rasiak has been as significant. The Pole is the Championship's joint second top scorer but there should be more to come from two of Burley's other former charges, Rudi Skacel and Inigo Idiakez. (WHAT???.....no mention of Jonesy >:( must have been written after he started winning all their points :-[)
.................This season, few have entered the transfer market with greater vigour than Roy Keane. A radically different squad have transformed Sunderland under the Irishman's guidance and featuring a large contingent of his compatriots.
Anthony Stokes, the youngest of them, may be unproven in England but Carlos Edwards, part of Keane's Trinidadian trio, has shown himself to be a high-class Championship performer. In the shape of Dwight Yorke, Liam Miller, Graham Kavanagh, Dean Whitehead and Grant Leadbitter, Keane has acquired more central midfield options than anyone else, with the possible exception of Derby, and Sunderland appear to be gaining the momentum required.
..........That favours Birmingham and West Brom (and, curiously, Colchester). Derby, meanwhile, have their own asset at the top, with arguably the Championship's finest manager. There have been few causes for optimism in Midlands football in recent seasons, but the three clubs looking forward to banking £30 million apiece next season could be Derby, Birmingham and - perhaps via the play-offs - West Brom......booooooo!!!!
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Consider the fact that the teams that get promoted get big money and what they usually do is buy players (some experienced players who in the EPL now) and sell players who the coach feels eh going to make it.
Ah feel Kenwyne ok because of his youth. But I ent to sure about Dwight and Stern especially.
Stern already got dumped once.
So it could be bittersweet.
As long as it have Trini to put boots on Newcastle it all good. ;D ;D
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have faith my Trini friends,we will go up this year. :beermug: 8)
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As long as it have Trini to put boots on Newcastle it all good. ;D ;D
I didn't know you were a Toon/Magpie lover.
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As long as it have Trini to put boots on Newcastle it all good. ;D ;D
I didn't know you were a Toon/Magpie lover.
Mih office full ah Toon heads, Geordies , all kinda Newcastle paraphenalia stick up on walls, man wearing black an white stripes everyday, so with trini's in Sunderland ah having ah good go at them . ;D ;D ;D
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If both teams go up.......
Yorke will play (experience), Carlos will play (quality), Stern will be shown the door and kenwyne will play (promise and athleticism) at the start and will continue to play only if he delivers goals.
I cant see stern playing in the premier league again.
It just doesn't seem possible although i still wish him well.
ah love it!!
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yuh sure bout that andre ??....yuh know stern have a way of making people eat they words...ask disgruntled and even the coventry fans that boo him until his late season goals keep they shitty ass in the championship division last season...allyuh go ahead
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If both teams go up.......
Yorke will play (experience), Carlos will play (quality), Stern will be shown the door and kenwyne will play (promise and athleticism) at the start and will continue to play only if he delivers goals.
I cant see stern playing in the premier league again.
It just doesn't seem possible although i still wish him well.
ah love it!!
Spot on!well said!I agree 8)
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I would love for both teams to make it to the premiership the question is if Sunderland make it will they keep Stern and Yorke our will they pick up a so called top striker in the same way when Stern helped Birmingham I feel Jones will stay with his club because of his age. Keane mite love them now but later could be a different answer.
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I wouldnt mind Jones in place of John for us next season. 8)
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I wouldnt mind Jones in place of John for us next season. 8)
Boy, yuh take de words out meh mouth!
Didn't want to say so before, but with 12 goals so far for the season, Kenwyne would have been the better buy. And he's only 22.
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Well,you never know,if Southampton dont go up.........This trini magic works well for sunderland,i think it should continue! :-*
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respect supa
Big Mag, there are few people on de forum, we rate, and trust meh boss, de Enterprise rate yuh and have respect fuh yuh sah. We like how yuh does deal wid yuh threads, except fuh de last post we responded to ;D. Respect :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Well,you never know,if Southampton dont go up.........This trini magic works well for sunderland,i think it should continue! :-*
Even if Southampton do go up I am sure Keano would be able to tempt him away from them, if we go up we will spend a shit load of money and the stadium will be jumping. Who wouldn't want to play for a manager like Keane in a stadium like ours in front of the most passionate fans in England..........I am a little biased though ;D
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Of course de best deal is fuh both Sunderland and Southampton tuh get promoted. But listen meh, 3 T&T players is always better dan 1 T&T player in de EPL, Jones de Enterprise love yuh spirit and energy, but we have tuh go wid we new found love, which is Sunderland ;). HIGHLY BLESSED.
Big respect Supa :beermug: I would be nice to see Southampton go up with Sunderland as they are traditionally an EPL club and George Burley played for Sunderland when I was young. 14 games left and I am getting nervous :o
:beermug: HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Ok, alot of people have talked about it, want to do it. Hopefully when the weather warmer.....lol But we don't have much time left, the season is almost over.
So how many of you seriously willing to go support the boys at the SOL? I am considering organising with their fan club/mgmt, and maybe talk to a few folks like the TnT High Comm, PoisonUk, etc, and making a trip up north.
Should I start making enquiries? Do you think Trinis will go?
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I for dat!! It would be good if a London crew could meet up and go.......
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sounds good
Dwight could stay on the sofa I'll use his room
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Mate!! I for dat.
Just let me know.
I am in East London.
Just email me at socarandy@email.com
After the game we could organize some roti, who knows!!!
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I am up for that but i am looking at the fixture list an i am thinking that, it may be a better thing to go to the game against either, Colchester the 3rd to last game of the season or Luton town on the last day of the season as the luton game is when Carlos returns to his old club and it just may be the game that decides who gets promoted to the premiership.
What do you think redtrinigirl?
JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
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Nah! The last game may not decide it.
Promotion will be decided on getting past the stronger teams in the division such as West Brom, southhamption and Hull.
Luton is at the bottom and struggling at the moment.
But I am up for any game.
socarandy
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I am up for that but i am looking at the fixture list an i am thinking that, it may be a better thing to go to the game against either, Colchester the 3rd to last game of the season or Luton town on the last day of the season as the luton game is when Carlos returns to his old club and it just may be the game that decides who gets promoted to the premiership.
What do you think redtrinigirl?
JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
Whilst I agree it would be cheaper, and closer to home, so to speak, the whole point of going is to experience watching them in front of the home crowd, get the meet-and-greet with the Sunderland fans, and SEE the SOL.
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the whole point of going is to experience watching them in front of the home crowd, get the meet-and-greet with the Sunderland fans, and SEE the SOL.
Allya have to realise that Sunderland are some of the loudest fans in the CCC
Just imagine the SOL packed to the Rafters and everyone singing their heads off
look the view here...man I wish I could be there ;) :wavetowel:
(http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/sunderlandreplace.jpg)
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the whole point of going is to experience watching them in front of the home crowd, get the meet-and-greet with the Sunderland fans, and SEE the SOL.
Allya have to realise that Sunderland are some of the loudest fans in the CCC
Just imagine the SOL packed to the Rafters and everyone singing their heads off
look the view here...man I wish I could be there ;) :wavetowel:
(http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/sunderlandreplace.jpg)
No, just imagine it pack to capacity, and a serious rhythm section going for de whole game! Dat's what I want to see (hear).
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I am up for that but i am looking at the fixture list an i am thinking that, it may be a better thing to go to the game against either, Colchester the 3rd to last game of the season or Luton town on the last day of the season as the luton game is when Carlos returns to his old club and it just may be the game that decides who gets promoted to the premiership.
What do you think redtrinigirl?
JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
It would be very unlikely that you would get tickets for Luton if the game will make a difference to our season, (ie. a win would get us promoted) and near enough impossible for you to get tickets for Colchester because their ground only holds 6,375, unless of course you go in the home end which wouldn't be as special and could you imagine Carlos, Yorkie or Stern scoring and you not being able to celebrate with the Sunderland fans?
Wolves looks the best home game left for crowd size and atmosphere IMO on the 7th April and they are playing well which should add to the excitement, not to mention the fact their manager is our old one
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I checking ryan air tuh see how much it go cost tuh come dey for a game. hold on.......... I will need help tuh get ticket and pay when I arrive there for it. But I know from Germany it cheap tuh get tuh england I could come fuh de week end.... Stansted is de only airpot I could use though.
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60Euros
leave Friday 11PM..get stansted 11:30PM
Leave Stansted Sunday 16:40PM or 21:30 PM
hmmm wuh alyuh say???
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60Euros
leave Friday 11PM..get stansted 11:30PM
Leave Stansted Sunday 16:40PM or 21:30 PM
hmmm wuh alyuh say???
Yuh ain't see d thread say uk crew?
JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
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I will have to change it to "All Soca Warrior supporters who willing to go a Sunderland home game" ;D
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60Euros
leave Friday 11PM..get stansted 11:30PM
Leave Stansted Sunday 16:40PM or 21:30 PM
hmmm wuh alyuh say???
Yuh ain't see d thread say uk crew?
JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
Well excuse me if dat is an exclusive club I guess I can just sit at home and sob about it :'( :'( :'(
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Ah wonder if ah could get ah weekend flight from TO to come wid yu all?? :devil: :beermug:
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Ah wonder if ah could get ah weekend flight from TO to come wid yu all?? :devil: :beermug:
Dat kinda taking patriotism to new hights there breds ;D
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I am up for that but i am looking at the fixture list an i am thinking that, it may be a better thing to go to the game against either, Colchester the 3rd to last game of the season or Luton town on the last day of the season as the luton game is when Carlos returns to his old club and it just may be the game that decides who gets promoted to the premiership.
What do you think redtrinigirl?
JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
It would be very unlikely that you would get tickets for Luton if the game will make a difference to our season, (ie. a win would get us promoted) and near enough impossible for you to get tickets for Colchester because their ground only holds 6,375, unless of course you go in the home end which wouldn't be as special and could you imagine Carlos, Yorkie or Stern scoring and you not being able to celebrate with the Sunderland fans?
Wolves looks the best home game left for crowd size and atmosphere IMO on the 7th April and they are playing well which should add to the excitement, not to mention the fact their manager is our old one
The 7th of April will be a good day to go see our boys take on Wolves but only if we can get back to London or wherever else we live by 12 midnight GMT in time for a very important AGM! ;)
Correction, I just realised that important AGM is on the 7th March a month before this game so no conflicts here plus that is Easter weekend!!!! ;D
I say lets try to plan our WN visit to the SOL for the Sunderland vs Wolves game on Sat. 7th April'07 and we want to see everyone in their WN gear too!
We may also need the WN banner sent up from T&T if we can get it back, is we who had it first yuh know!! ;)
Who with me?! 8)
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Ah wonder if ah could get ah weekend flight from TO to come wid yu all?? :devil: :beermug:
Dat kinda taking patriotism to new hights there breds ;D
Alyu help me out, ah need flights and all other information so ah could pitch this idea to de wife to get me passport stamp or if she want to come too LOL
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Ah wonder if ah could get ah weekend flight from TO to come wid yu all?? :devil: :beermug:
Dat kinda taking patriotism to new hights there breds ;D
you takin he orn
he gobe goin to ah ManBoo Game :devil:
ah lie, Dragon ;D ;D
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I am up for that but i am looking at the fixture list an i am thinking that, it may be a better thing to go to the game against either, Colchester the 3rd to last game of the season or Luton town on the last day of the season as the luton game is when Carlos returns to his old club and it just may be the game that decides who gets promoted to the premiership.
What do you think redtrinigirl?
JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
It would be very unlikely that you would get tickets for Luton if the game will make a difference to our season, (ie. a win would get us promoted) and near enough impossible for you to get tickets for Colchester because their ground only holds 6,375, unless of course you go in the home end which wouldn't be as special and could you imagine Carlos, Yorkie or Stern scoring and you not being able to celebrate with the Sunderland fans?
Wolves looks the best home game left for crowd size and atmosphere IMO on the 7th April and they are playing well which should add to the excitement, not to mention the fact their manager is our old one
The 7th of April will be a good day to go see our boys take on Wolves but only if we can get back to London or wherever else we live by 12 midnight GMT in time for a very important AGM! ;)
Correction, I just realised that important AGM is on the 7th March a month before this game so no conflicts here plus that is Easter weekend!!!! ;D
I say lets try to plan our WN visit to the SOL for the Sunderland vs Wolves game on Sat. 7th April'07 and we want to see everyone in their WN gear too!
We may also need the WN banner sent up from T&T if we can get it back, is we who had it first yuh know!! ;)
Who with me?! 8)
Breds, this starting to sound sweet. Easter Saturday, most people off. One of the Sunderland fans told me the London crew comes up on an 8:00 am train and leave via a 9:00 pm train (will verify). It could work. Only dramas is getting Trinis to reach de station before 8:00 am on a Saturday morning...lol
The only dramas is train works normally go on easter weekend. We could find out bout dat. Cause I eh think I able with the long ass coach drive up there.
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Ah wonder if ah could get ah weekend flight from TO to come wid yu all?? :devil: :beermug:
Dat kinda taking patriotism to new hights there breds ;D
you takin he orn
he gobe goin to ah ManBoo Game :devil:
ah lie, Dragon ;D ;D
Ok OK, de wife thinking bout de trip so ah know ah could get ah flight but somebody go have to put up wid me for de weekend and ah have to know how we getting ticks for de game and we go work out transportation LOL :devil: :devil: :devil: Toronto in de house
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Ah wonder if ah could get ah weekend flight from TO to come wid yu all?? :devil: :beermug:
Dat kinda taking patriotism to new hights there breds ;D
you takin he orn
he gobe goin to ah ManBoo Game :devil:
ah lie, Dragon ;D ;D
Ok OK, de wife thinking bout de trip so ah know ah could get ah flight but somebody go have to put up wid me for de weekend and ah have to know how we getting ticks for de game and we go work out transportation LOL :devil: :devil: :devil: Toronto in de house
The ticket office is open right up until kick off so you can buy tickets on the day, or someone could order all the tickets on a debit / credit card then you can pick them up at the ticket office anytime before kick off (you need the card the tickets were booked on and some form of ID I think)
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Ah wonder if ah could get ah weekend flight from TO to come wid yu all?? :devil: :beermug:
Dat kinda taking patriotism to new hights there breds ;D
you takin he orn
he gobe goin to ah ManBoo Game :devil:
ah lie, Dragon ;D ;D
Ok OK, de wife thinking bout de trip so ah know ah could get ah flight but somebody go have to put up wid me for de weekend and ah have to know how we getting ticks for de game and we go work out transportation LOL :devil: :devil: :devil: Toronto in de house
The ticket office is open right up until kick off so you can buy tickets on the day, or someone could order all the tickets on a debit / credit card then you can pick them up at the ticket office anytime before kick off (you need the card the tickets were booked on and some form of ID I think)
So who is de ring leader of dis bunch....redtrinigyul looks like you're de lucky one :devil: :devil: :devil:
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RTG, if you contact the club they may be able to sort the tickets out for you and maybe publicise it as a T & T event.
We did a similar thing earlier in the season when we played Plymouth, it was dubbed St Niall's day and was a tribute to our chairman and former player Niall Quinn, everyone was encouraged to wear green and anything irish, I wore a massive Guinness hat (check out my photo in the members gallery on SMB), quite embarrassing when I look back :-[
It would be great if you could pull it off and I am sure it would be a fantastic success. The fans at the Sol would join in for sure.
:beermug:
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If you do come over it'll be a experience you'll never forget been at the SoL
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RTG, if you contact the club they may be able to sort the tickets out for you and maybe publicise it as a T & T event.
We did a similar thing earlier in the season when we played Plymouth, it was dubbed St Niall's day and was a tribute to our chairman and former player Niall Quinn, everyone was encouraged to wear green and anything irish, I wore a massive Guinness hat (check out my photo in the members gallery on SMB), quite embarrassing when I look back :-[
It would be great if you could pull it off and I am sure it would be a fantastic success. The fans at the Sol would join in for sure.
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Ok folks that's it! Its been decided! Easter Sat.7th April is no longer Easter Saturday, its now to be re-dubbed Warrior Nation Saturday!!
We will catch the 8am train from London to Sunderland and make it a WN Game day out! I will have to cancell my radio show on this Saturday so you'll must realise that I dead serious about making this visit to the SOL to support our 2nd favorite team in the Red, White & Black, the Sunderland Warriors!! And we cheering for Warrior Goals from all the Sunderland Warriors but goals from Soca-Sun Warriors Yorke, Stern or Edwards will be extra special together with a Sunderland victory!!
Reds please get us the ticket prices for the train journey and entry to the game and we will start planning from now! And someone need to take up Cartman's suggestion about contacting the SAFC regards tickets for this game and publicity about our visit!
We need to work out numbers to start so that Reds can co-ordinate the ticket business properly!
Reds I think you have been nominated so get working, yuh already do half the work so the tickets job is yours!
I think we should all get send our ticket money to Reds so she can book everything on one card to make it easy pull we can get all the tickets in the same seating area so we can be together during the game for maximum vocal & visual impact!! How that sound Reds?! ;)
This is serious business now!! Allyuh ready to rumble?!! :challenge:
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RTG, if you contact the club they may be able to sort the tickets out for you and maybe publicise it as a T & T event.
We did a similar thing earlier in the season when we played Plymouth, it was dubbed St Niall's day and was a tribute to our chairman and former player Niall Quinn, everyone was encouraged to wear green and anything irish, I wore a massive Guinness hat (check out my photo in the members gallery on SMB), quite embarrassing when I look back :-[
It would be great if you could pull it off and I am sure it would be a fantastic success. The fans at the Sol would join in for sure.
:beermug:
Ok folks that's it! Its been decided! Easter Sat.7th April is no longer Easter Saturday, its now to be re-dubbed Warrior Nation Saturday!!
We will catch the 8am train from London to Sunderland and make it a WN Game day out! I will have to cancell my radio show on this Saturday so you'll must realise that I dead serious about making this visit to the SOL to support our 2nd favorite team in the Red, White & Black, the Sunderland Warriors!! And we cheering for Warrior Goals from all the Sunderland Warriors but goals from Soca-Sun Warriors Yorke, Stern or Edwards will be extra special together with a Sunderland victory!!
Reds please get us the ticket prices for the train journey and entry to the game and we will start planning from now! And someone need to take up Cartman's suggestion about contacting the SAFC regards tickets for this game and publicity about our visit!
We need to work out numbers to start so that Reds can co-ordinate the ticket business properly!
Reds I think you have been nominated so get working, yuh already do half the work so the tickets job is yours!
I think we should all get send our ticket money to Reds so she can book everything on one card to make it easy pull we can get all the tickets in the same seating area so we can be together during the game for maximum vocal & visual impact!! How that sound Reds?! ;)
This is serious business now!! Allyuh ready to rumble?!! :challenge:
Ah guess yu leave out the TO crew :o ::) :-\ :'(
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Look I have started the publicity campaign already
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=204349
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Look I have started the publicity campaign already
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=204349
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DOH!, why did it post it twice 8)
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How come i'm logged in as ned_werby? I am but a mere guest to this fine forum
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Dammit! I was going to go up for Easter and go to that game but now I've got people coming to stay with me in Manchester so I'm going to miss 'T&T Day' :'(
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Ok, just talked to Management over at Sunderland. They will get back to me with my request/enquiries, but seemed very interested in the idea of a T&T theme day.
I can tell you now that Match Day tickets are either £24 (the sides, or home-behind goal) or £19 (the corners).
She said it may be possible to reserve the tickets at the gates, and we identify ourselves as Trini supporters and pay for them there. Or we can purchase them outright, and collect at the gate.
Offhand, she doesn't see a problem with a rhythm section, but will confirm what we are allowed.
They are interested in the carnival theme, and maybe half-time entertainment, and will also confirm what will be allowed if they decide to go that route.
Once I have the facts, I will be contacting our High Comm, along with as many Trini promotional crews, groups, orgs as possible.
In the meantime, can someone source out a rhythm section, maybe the one that was at QPR for the Iceland match last year?
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April 7th will be a great day at Sunderland if you guys do turn up.
The atmosphere will be fantastic. You'll also have to get the rest of the fans singing 'The Sunlund warrior' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC1mSOY1hmI
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DOH!, why did it post it twice 8)
you can delete one if you want
in the top right side of the post you want to delete you will see a delete button
some on here say I am the expert in deleting posts ;D ;D
Ok, just talked to Management over at Sunderland. They will get back to me with my request/enquiries, but seemed very interested in the idea of a T&T theme day.
I can tell you now that Match Day tickets are either £24 (the sides, or home-behind goal) or £19 (the corners).
She said it may be possible to reserve the tickets at the gates, and we identify ourselves as Trini supporters and pay for them there. Or we can purchase them outright, and collect at the gate.
Offhand, she doesn't see a problem with a rhythm section, but will confirm what we are allowed.
They are interested in the carnival theme, and maybe half-time entertainment, and will also confirm what will be allowed if they decide to go that route.
Once I have the facts, I will be contacting our High Comm, along with as many Trini promotional crews, groups, orgs as possible.
In the meantime, can someone source out a rhythm section, maybe the one that was at QPR for the Iceland match last year?
Great Job RedTriniGurl
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How come i'm logged in as ned_werby? I am but a mere guest to this fine forum
Welcome Ned 8)
I'll have you know this is also a Toon free Zone ;D
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Shame we could'nt get Maximus Dan to perform at half time, that surely would create a carnival atmosphere at the game
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Ok - Warrior from Scotland coming for this. It'll be me plus two (at the very least) - I am trying to get more warriors from down south....
I will come armed with a horn.... :devil:
:beermug: to redtgirl!!
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this is sounding better by the minute....already learning the soca warrior tune ;)
wolves tend to bring a big following (well, they did last time anyway) so would advise organising tickets well in advance.
maybe bring a few scarves/flags/banners etc for swapping.
a word with the SoL could get a trini flag in place permanent, we have a line of supporters clubs flags along the north stand.
heres to a great WN day and many friendships being formed.
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Ok, just talked to Management over at Sunderland. They will get back to me with my request/enquiries, but seemed very interested in the idea of a T&T theme day.
I can tell you now that Match Day tickets are either £24 (the sides, or home-behind goal) or £19 (the corners).
She said it may be possible to reserve the tickets at the gates, and we identify ourselves as Trini supporters and pay for them there. Or we can purchase them outright, and collect at the gate.
Offhand, she doesn't see a problem with a rhythm section, but will confirm what we are allowed.
They are interested in the carnival theme, and maybe half-time entertainment, and will also confirm what will be allowed if they decide to go that route.
Once I have the facts, I will be contacting our High Comm, along with as many Trini promotional crews, groups, orgs as possible.
In the meantime, can someone source out a rhythm section, maybe the one that was at QPR for the Iceland match last year?
Maybe you should also ask them to pass a message on to Yorkie so he can prepare the rest of the team. We don't want our own players being scared of the extra noise! ;D
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this is sounding better by the minute....already learning the soca warrior tune ;)
wolves tend to bring a big following (well, they did last time anyway) so would advise organising tickets well in advance.
maybe bring a few scarves/flags/banners etc for swapping.
a word with the SoL could get a trini flag in place permanent, we have a line of supporters clubs flags along the north stand.
heres to a great WN day and many friendships being formed.
The Warrior Nation has a gigantic TnT Flag, but dont have a clue as if it could be sent there in time, or if it is possible to do that. Tallman what would be the Logistics in getting the Big Flag there?
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This is really starting to pick up pace now, you seem to be getting a lot of interest and it only started yesterday. The Sunderland fans on the SMB are talking about it so you will get a lot of publicity on there and I am sure the local newspapers will soon pick up on it as they get most of their stories from the SMb anyway :rotfl:
Swapping scarfs is a great idea, I am up for that. If it happens I am gonna buy a Trini top for the day :beermug:
RedTrinigirl will be a legend if she pulls this off
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This is really starting to pick up pace now, you seem to be getting a lot of interest and it only started yesterday. The Sunderland fans on the SMB are talking about it so you will get a lot of publicity on there and I am sure the local newspapers will soon pick up on it as they get most of their stories from the SMb anyway :rotfl:
Swapping scarfs is a great idea, I am up for that. If it happens I am gonna buy a Trini top for the day :beermug:
RedTrinigirl will be a legend if she pulls this off
I was thinking about buying a top anyway but there's been talk on here of a new strip coming out for the Gold Cup, anyone know when it will be available?
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Well I am gonna come from Germany for that game. Already checked out the flight info with Ryan air. How far is stansted from Sunderland? I may need a hotel for two nights, or someone can lend me a couch. ;D
Talk to me someone????????
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Well I am gonna come from Germany for that game. Already checked out the flight info with Ryan air. How far is stansted from Sunderland? I may need a hotel for two nights, or someone can lend me a couch. ;D
Talk to me someone????????
De Toronto crew thinking bout coming also, De Dragon, Lady Dragon, Chinee_Boi and Chinee_Gyul....We too looking for accommodations or a place to crash........Someone to make de airport run to pick us up.........Hint, hint...........
And Yes if RTG pull dis one off she is ah goddess in all rights :-* :-* :-* :-* :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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whats de address I on Mapquest right now 5 hrs drive. I may need to fly there on de friday.
(http://map.web.mapquest.com/?e=9&GetMapDataDirect=Gme5diw%2cr%3a9u12%3b%40%24sq%2drxq075%26%3da%261ztnqa%24w%21w7l0zt%3a0%2d20gyz0%26a8luwtn%26u2gu%2ca%3a9672%3b%40b200%24%3a%26%40%24s9%2dyghr1x%266%40lgut00%40%24%3a9672%3b%40b20a%24%3a%26%40%24sq%2d1nq6yl%26%3d2%26lr1l5z%24%3a%26u8ah%2c2%3a94t2%210%2axdry%3a%26%4020u%4020uzyslw%24ngz%24%3a94r2%21u%2as1%408n5r1glw%24lguy2d%40%5fgqf8%3a%294t594%24ahwzn%26ry5h%40za5u7%3a%2902wqf%2400ab2%26%3d8nu07%3a0zy0h%40%5fsgzr2%26zrg5u%24%2equy0u%40bghr1%3a%29rt506%24l1fbn%26%3dtalf7%3a14t2u%40%5fagyb2%26ytwuf%24%2ega1lu%40ywh42%3a%290bsd6%24s5at2%26%3d8xua7%3a1za5u%40%5fa9r82%26ya296%24%2e5yr5h%401lda7%3a%29u7ngf2%3a5wb0u%40%5flly12%26zyn56%24%2elr7gu%40t5hr7%3a%2941wh6%24adu1w%26%3d8sg41%3a0r109%40%5fx0uan%26zr0l6%24%2equ22u%40z0l47%3a%29fa2uf%24sly7w%26%3dtwha2%3a56rl9%40%5fs9682%26yts5f%24%2edyynh%40z2gy2%3a%294b25u%240hry2%26%3daggf1%3adyygu%40%5f5q6z2%264ba06%24%2e1uy59%40zxgz7%3a%29z12u%40zluf7%3a%29wtau6%24slrr2%26%3das141%3aqf72h%40%5fn947n%26rr2du%24%2e007w%26r85u6%24%2el07a9%40za9w7%3a%29ayg56%2409wy2%26%3drxhw7%3ad48su%40%5fsl6b2%2647g9f%24%2eqfb0u%40rg9a7%3a%294tn9f%24096zn%26%3d2n1r2%3aq08lu%40bagf7%3aq4yxh%40alhf7%3aqaa29%40r0q42%3ad010u%40r2ua1%3aqw7nh%40a20z7%3aq47a9%40%5fl9w22%264a2h6%24%2e96ywh%401nh01%3a50bxh%40rguy7%3adr7s9%40%5f5l6r%3a1r2w%26u8su%2c7%3a9yz2%3be4h2gmi%26%402squ%2a2%260i02%402squ%2anq%40yguu2a0a%24lhaba14y%3ahztwurz%3al4a2qz2%3a9475qz8%3a062l5f%24x1wt00%402sqf82%26zrwhf%24xg672%26uy2u6%24wu67%3aqz72%26082u%4025u6%40l%3b%40zaua%24%3a&rnd=1661)
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Well I am gonna come from Germany for that game. Already checked out the flight info with Ryan air. How far is stansted from Sunderland? I may need a hotel for two nights, or someone can lend me a couch. ;D
Talk to me someone????????
De Toronto crew thinking bout coming also, De Dragon, Lady Dragon, Chinee_Boi and Chinee_Gyul....We too looking for accommodations or a place to crash........Someone to make de airport run to pick us up.........Hint, hint...........
And Yes if RTG pull dis one off she is ah goddess in all rights :-* :-* :-* :-* :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
mamgism
cool ah glad allyuh going..take pics n represent man ;D
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De Toronto crew thinking bout coming also, De Dragon, Lady Dragon, Chinee_Boi and Chinee_Gyul....We too looking for accommodations or a place to crash........Someone to make de airport run to pick us up.........Hint, hint...........
And Yes if RTG pull dis one off she is ah goddess in all rights :-* :-* :-* :-* :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
you mean to tell me you going all dat way and you ent going to a ManBoo Game? :o :o :o :o
ya better sitding eh
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De Toronto crew thinking bout coming also, De Dragon, Lady Dragon, Chinee_Boi and Chinee_Gyul....We too looking for accommodations or a place to crash........Someone to make de airport run to pick us up.........Hint, hint...........
And Yes if RTG pull dis one off she is ah goddess in all rights :-* :-* :-* :-* :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
you mean to tell me you going all dat way and you ent going to a ManBoo Game? :o :o :o :o
ya better sitding eh
Cah afford dat too, ManU might have to wait yes, cah make both games de same day
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if and when alyuh reach, make sure alyuh mash up d place with noise eh make sure they know d warriors in d house :beermug:
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if and when alyuh reach, make sure alyuh mash up d place with noise eh make sure they know d warriors in d house :beermug:
but there is probably only gonna be around 30 of ya :rotfl:
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how many do you think wil be coming?
i have a spare sofa or maybe a bed if your very lucky lads :)
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if and when alyuh reach, make sure alyuh mash up d place with noise eh make sure they know d warriors in d house :beermug:
but there is probably only gonna be around 30 of ya :rotfl:
More dan enough cartman, yu will experience de experience LOL :beermug: :beermug: :devil: :devil:
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if and when alyuh reach, make sure alyuh mash up d place with noise eh make sure they know d warriors in d house :beermug:
but there is probably only gonna be around 30 of ya :rotfl:
Cartman you will know how we trinis do it 30 is enough to be known with we trinis, especially with a rythm goin you will see ;)
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if and when alyuh reach, make sure alyuh mash up d place with noise eh make sure they know d warriors in d house :beermug:
but there is probably only gonna be around 30 of ya :rotfl:
Cartman you will know how we trinis do it 30 is enough to be known with we trinis, especially with a rythm goin you will see ;)
looking forward to it mate, if it happens it will be a cracking day...then we can all go on the drink after another glorious win :beermug:
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if and when alyuh reach, make sure alyuh mash up d place with noise eh make sure they know d warriors in d house :beermug:
but there is probably only gonna be around 30 of ya :rotfl:
Cartman you will know how we trinis do it 30 is enough to be known with we trinis, especially with a rythm goin you will see ;)
looking forward to it mate, if it happens it will be a cracking day...then we can all go on the drink after another glorious win :beermug:
Cart man I need lodging arrangements. Also how do I get from Standsted to Sunderland??
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you'll have to get a train into london i think befroe travelling from there up north to sunderland...you can stay at mine if you like ;)
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you'll have to get a train into london i think befroe travelling from there up north to sunderland...you can stay at mine if you like ;)
Great I will take you up on dat offer.
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you'll have to get a train into london i think befroe travelling from there up north to sunderland...you can stay at mine if you like ;)
Space for 4 from TO?
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..then we can all go on the drink after another glorious win :beermug:
I thought that you had your letters of Teetotalism :D ;)
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..then we can all go on the drink after another glorious win :beermug:
I thought that you had your letters of Teetotalism :D ;)
no way mate, I love to party on a weekend...hard at work now like :-[
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if and when alyuh reach, make sure alyuh mash up d place with noise eh make sure they know d warriors in d house :beermug:
but there is probably only gonna be around 30 of ya :rotfl:
Cartman you will know how we trinis do it 30 is enough to be known with we trinis, especially with a rythm goin you will see ;)
looking forward to it mate, if it happens it will be a cracking day...then we can all go on the drink after another glorious win :beermug:
Cart man I need lodging arrangements. Also how do I get from Standsted to Sunderland??
You will need to fly into Newcastle, I could pick up to 4 people up from Newcastle airport and take them the game. I could also find you some numbers for hotels etc nearer the time.
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...hard at work now like :-[
really!!!! :o
:whistling:
everyone else would not believe you, but I believe that you are hard at work NOW
and not on TWO footy forums :devil:
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I hate Wednesdays, I am stuck on the helpdesk talking to people who know nothing about computers :rotfl:
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I hate Wednesdays, I am stuck on the helpdesk talking to people who know nothing about computers :rotfl:
You telling me, I have to go into de data center and confirm if all ports are connected and what dey connected to. It go take me hours to figure out everything through de birds nest of cables ah have LOL :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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De Toronto crew thinking bout coming also, De Dragon, Lady Dragon, Chinee_Boi and Chinee_Gyul....We too looking for accommodations or a place to crash........Someone to make de airport run to pick us up.........Hint, hint...........
Pay for my flight, and I'll get you put up in Sunderland, no bother! 8)
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De Toronto crew thinking bout coming also, De Dragon, Lady Dragon, Chinee_Boi and Chinee_Gyul....We too looking for accommodations or a place to crash........Someone to make de airport run to pick us up.........Hint, hint...........
Pay for my flight, and I'll get you put up in Sunderland, no bother! 8)
Ok officially out now, got de word from my manager (and no it wasn't de wife) dat ah might have to wuk weekends in march and April to get ah floor prepped for expansion......................Ah wah cry :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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if and when alyuh reach, make sure alyuh mash up d place with noise eh make sure they know d warriors in d house :beermug:
but there is probably only gonna be around 30 of ya :rotfl:
Cartman you will know how we trinis do it 30 is enough to be known with we trinis, especially with a rythm goin you will see ;)
well y cyah count on d agon he eh have no timin. maybe lady dragon could handle de rhythm...lol
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if and when alyuh reach, make sure alyuh mash up d place with noise eh make sure they know d warriors in d house :beermug:
but there is probably only gonna be around 30 of ya :rotfl:
Cartman you will know how we trinis do it 30 is enough to be known with we trinis, especially with a rythm goin you will see ;)
well y cyah count on d agon he eh have no timin. maybe lady dragon could handle de rhythm...lol
Dias what she now telling me, ah tell she to hull she a**
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Ok officially out now, got de word from my manager (and no it wasn't de wife) dat ah might have to wuk weekends in march and April to get ah floor prepped for expansion......................Ah wah cry :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
You'll have to come along to watch the Lads against Stoke on 13th March... 2pm k.o., I think.
There's a bunch of us that meet up in a bar in TO - I'll stick a post up nearer the time.
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Ok officially out now, got de word from my manager (and no it wasn't de wife) dat ah might have to wuk weekends in march and April to get ah floor prepped for expansion......................Ah wah cry :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
You'll have to come along to watch the Lads against Stoke on 13th March... 2pm k.o., I think.
There's a bunch of us that meet up in a bar in TO - I'll stick a post up nearer the time.
Ah doh know what going to happen. All de office teling me is dat dem dates get black balled so ah cah even ask for time off. If de game is ah midday game ah might be screwed.
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Ok, prices and stuff coming through for train fares.
London crew :-
Lon to Sun £29
Sun to Lon £20.50
The "anytime" day returns going at £95 and £86.50 (if yuh not going via Darlington), so it cheaper to buy the singles.
Only problem, we HAVE to leave Sunderland by 6:30 pm (reaching London 11:52 pm), otherwise we stuck in quito-quito and not reaching back to London till Sunday! Or may have to work out taking multiple trains and switching to try getting back to London same night.
I say cater about £100 for all costs for the day - match tickets, train tickets, food & drinks.
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Ok, prices and stuff coming through for train fares.
London crew :-
Lon to Sun £29
Sun to Lon £20.50
The "anytime" day returns going at £95 and £86.50 (if yuh not going via Darlington), so it cheaper to buy the singles.
Only problem, we HAVE to leave Sunderland by 6:30 pm (reaching London 11:52 pm), otherwise we stuck in quito-quito and not reaching back to London till Sunday! Or may have to work out taking multiple trains and switching to try getting back to London same night.
I say cater about £100 for all costs for the day - match tickets, train tickets, food & drinks.
asking on behalf of de drinkers..
how much ha beer cost there
u sure u catring enough for dragon....and chinne dey coudl real drink
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Ok, prices and stuff coming through for train fares.
London crew :-
Lon to Sun £29
Sun to Lon £20.50
The "anytime" day returns going at £95 and £86.50 (if yuh not going via Darlington), so it cheaper to buy the singles.
Only problem, we HAVE to leave Sunderland by 6:30 pm (reaching London 11:52 pm), otherwise we stuck in quito-quito and not reaching back to London till Sunday! Or may have to work out taking multiple trains and switching to try getting back to London same night.
I say cater about £100 for all costs for the day - match tickets, train tickets, food & drinks.
asking on behalf of de drinkers..
how much ha beer cost there
u sure u catring enough for dragon....and chinne dey coudl real drink
LOL :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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Right I have arranged 3 cars so far to transfer you from the train station/airport so far, probably more to come. We can make a few trips as the airport is only 20 minutes from Sunderland
;D
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Ok, prices and stuff coming through for train fares.
London crew :-
Lon to Sun £29
Sun to Lon £20.50
The "anytime" day returns going at £95 and £86.50 (if yuh not going via Darlington), so it cheaper to buy the singles.
Only problem, we HAVE to leave Sunderland by 6:30 pm (reaching London 11:52 pm), otherwise we stuck in quito-quito and not reaching back to London till Sunday! Or may have to work out taking multiple trains and switching to try getting back to London same night.
I say cater about £100 for all costs for the day - match tickets, train tickets, food & drinks.
how far is stansted airport from the trainstation you are talking about?
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I am assuming that is either Euston or St Pancreas station, so I would say a few miles. You can take a train from Stanstead into London, should take bout half an hour, that time in the morning.
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From Sunderland Supporters all over the world, welcome aboard, Soca Warriors!.
I hope you get to see Sunderland, but tickets for the games at Colchester and Luton will be very hard to get - for Sunderland Season Ticket holders! I know it's a long way, but you'd be better off making the trek to the North East for a game - you're certain to get a ticket.
For travel advice from London, try the SAFC Supporters London Branch - link http://www.readytogo.net/london/
if you do decide to come, please let me know and we'll make sure you get some publicity and a warm North East welcome. :beermug:
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Ok, prices and stuff coming through for train fares.
London crew :-
Lon to Sun £29
Sun to Lon £20.50
The "anytime" day returns going at £95 and £86.50 (if yuh not going via Darlington), so it cheaper to buy the singles.
Only problem, we HAVE to leave Sunderland by 6:30 pm (reaching London 11:52 pm), otherwise we stuck in quito-quito and not reaching back to London till Sunday! Or may have to work out taking multiple trains and switching to try getting back to London same night.
I say cater about £100 for all costs for the day - match tickets, train tickets, food & drinks.
Nice work Reds, I putting aside my £100 for this WN Day Out from now!! The only worry is if we want to have some victory drinks on the town after the game with the Sunderland supporters and missing the 6:30pm train back so we can get back to London by midnight!
Some of us may have to be prepared to get back to London on Sunday morning! ;)
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Yeah man Socapro, you need to sample the Sunderland hospitality...lots girls in short skirts :rotfl:
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shhhhh doh tell de wifey shhhhhhhhh Ah go be dey
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Ok, developments:
The London branch of the Sunderland supporters has kindly offered to arrange train tickets for the match, at £36. You must confirm your travel by the last week in March. Leaving London at 8:00 am, leaving. Sunderland at 6:30 pm.
With match tickets at £24 and £19, you're looking at minimum costs of £60 for the day. You can factor in your own food & drink costs.
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Ok, developments:
The London branch of the Sunderland supporters has kindly offered to arrange train tickets for the match, at £36. You must confirm your travel by the last week in March. Leaving London at 8:00 am, leaving. Sunderland at 6:30 pm.
With match tickets at £24 and £19, you're looking at minimum costs of £60 for the day. You can factor in your own food & drink costs.
OK RTG could you summarize every thing in one post and maybe the mods can move it to the top of the thread. This way we could always find it when we need to referr to it.. Like me I have bad memory I already for get what date we planning for ;D
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You'll need to sit together eh. Otherwise u will be a speck in that giant stadium.
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redtrinigirl/Socapro, add my name to the list
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From Sunderland Supporters all over the world, welcome aboard, Soca Warriors!.
I hope you get to see Sunderland, but tickets for the games at Colchester and Luton will be very hard to get - for Sunderland Season Ticket holders! I know it's a long way, but you'd be better off making the trek to the North East for a game - you're certain to get a ticket.
For travel advice from London, try the SAFC Supporters London Branch - link http://www.readytogo.net/london/
if you do decide to come, please let me know and we'll make sure you get some publicity and a warm North East welcome. :beermug:
On behalf of everyone here... Welcome to the site cold north east and thanks for that London link-up. Was wondering, if there was a similar branch in the West Midlands; would have to travel in from Wolverhampton as early as 2.00 am to link up with the London crew if I decide to make the trip. Sounds more exciting by the minute.
Nice going RTG!!
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I hope you can make it to the game chaps and chapessess, would be good to catch up with you all for a pint or ten. ;D
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JP you are a p*sshead....nowt wrong with that like in my book :beermug: :rotfl:
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What game is it?You can count me in for a drinks meet up,etc... :beermug: ;D
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Ok, developments:
The London branch of the Sunderland supporters has kindly offered to arrange train tickets for the match, at £36. You must confirm your travel by the last week in March. Leaving London at 8:00 am, leaving. Sunderland at 6:30 pm.
With match tickets at £24 and £19, you're looking at minimum costs of £60 for the day. You can factor in your own food & drink costs.
Very well done RTG, £60 for the day is most resonable, more money to spend on drinks! :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Wonder if they'll have Carib & roti up there in Sunderland?!! ;D
I am really looking forward to this now, not going to take any DJ bookings for Easter Sat.7th April'07 that's WN In Sunderland Day!! :chilling:
redtrinigirl/Socapro, add my name to the list
Hey Jay my friend, glad to hear that you can make this WN trip! Real looking forward to liming with you and the rest of the WN crew at that football game! Boy life sweet eh?!! Ah real excited already!!! Fellas allyuh walk with allyuh digi-cameras if allyuh have one eh!!
Btw Jay, have you checked my myspace page yet? You in some of the pics in the slideshow from when we went to see Portvale vs Brentford last year! ;) Go to www.myspace.com/socaprofessor
Ah feeling the Germany vibes coming back! Fellas leh we "Vibes It Up" once again!! Go be Bacchanal in Sunderland come Easter Saturday!!
Looking forward to this trip and meeting the Sunderland lasses! ;)
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How many of you guys do you think will make it up to bonny Sunderland?
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Since we at the Saturday April 7 game, Anybody planning to check out the Sunderland v Southampton game Monday, 09 April 2007.
Not sure of proximity if the game is at Southampon.
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Since we at the Saturday April 7 game, Anybody planning to check out the Sunderland v Southampton game Monday, 09 April 2007.
Not sure of proximity if the game is at Southampon.
Sunderland to Southampton is about 350 miles! (345.6 to be exact) Tickets for the game at Southampton will be difficult to get for the Easter Monday match.
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Since we at the Saturday April 7 game, Anybody planning to check out the Sunderland v Southampton game Monday, 09 April 2007.
Not sure of proximity if the game is at Southampon.
Sunderland to Southampton is about 350 miles! (345.6 to be exact) Tickets for the game at Southampton will be difficult to get for the Easter Monday match.
350 miles is a lot of ground to cover - tickets is not the issue, just that its a long way to go. hmmm... got to think about it. thanks anyway.
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On SAFC:
Canny Trini Lasses (http://www.safc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6972)
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You guys are famous ;D
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=205967
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For those who are interested, we now have the option of a coach bus to the match. Prices start at £25 per person, leaving London at 7:30 am and leaving Sunderland for the return trip at 6:00 pm.
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/images/stories/WN_Roadtrip_SunderlandvsWolves.jpg)
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When asked who is the more laid-back of the duo, John laughed. “Dwight,” he said, “is horizontal.”
:rotfl:
200 people a steelband and the poison girls eh.
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http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/coca_cola/article2328792.ece
200 from Port of Spain ?
wow impressive
more like 200 trini's from London
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Keep up the work there Reds :notworthy: :notworthy:
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wish i could go but i tie up in the ATL.
i will look for a red girl with a red, white, and black flag.
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i love warrior nation
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Great excitement here
Can't wait for the day
You will be SOOOOO welcome
Bring it on Warriors :drool: :drool: :bringiton: :bringiton: :applause: :applause:
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Great excitement here
Can't wait for the day
You will be SOOOOO welcome
Bring it on Warriors :drool: :drool: :bringiton: :bringiton: :applause: :applause:
I agree with everything Safcpat says as always :rotfl:
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Where is the after match party going to be RTG, it is mentioned in the poster. Do you have any idea of how many are coming, also have the club been helpful in arranging it?
Cheers
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Can't wait for this, it's gonna be brilliant!! ;D
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Wish I knew about this on Saturday when I was talking to Niall Quinn at the West Brom game, I'm sure he will be very supportive of this event.
Cheers, Mackem
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Wish I knew about this on Saturday when I was talking to Niall Quinn at the West Brom game, I'm sure he will be very supportive of this event.
Cheers, Mackem
sound like GreedMinds like ;D ;D
Seriously, it would be a great day if the 200 mentioned were to make it for the match
darn, I wish I was not so far away
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RTG, check this...7 th Apr. Wolves; 9th apr. Southampton
ah done check flight - from MTL - 7 someting to London
buh wha is the movements after dat..
if ah reach London say like friday, then ah hook with a place till mawnin...or jus fly straight... whey...it look like Newcastle...then wha..train again...then whey dat game Monday, southampton (St Mary's)...is like wha, train again ...or doh bother with Hotel just book ah sleeping car or wha...is dat possible...gimme some guidance nah ?...passport nah stamp yet, ah jus checkin if the stamp worth applyin for !
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RTG, check this...7 th Apr. Wolves; 9th apr. Southampton
ah done check flight - from MTL - 7 someting to London
buh wha is the movements after dat..
if ah reach London say like friday, then ah hook with a place till mawnin...or jus fly straight... whey...it look like Newcastle...then wha..train again...then whey dat game Monday, southampton (St Mary's)...is like wha, train again ...or doh bother with Hotel just book ah sleeping car or wha...is dat possible...gimme some guidance nah ?...passport nah stamp yet, ah jus checkin if the stamp worth applyin for !
MaxG, there is a fella named Cartman (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2915) who will arrange rides for those who need from the airport/train station.
Is just he has to know ahead of time
read this post (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=25497.msg281709#msg281709)
4 weeks to go people
Make us proud and give the three Fellas something else to remember at the SOL.
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thks West coast...that post handy..
the reason as was checking with RTG doh..the fly in to Sunderland seem to involve flying in to Newcastle, bout $300 more from here, then on the 9th is off to Southampton, so ah still not sure where the most central location to be, considering that 2nd game...is it closer to London, or Sunderland...if London, is best man jus come thru dey, and chug-a-lug, up to Sunderland (or down, whereva)...maybe ah could google earth dat
yep: google map answer meh...
London in between Southhampton and Sunderland, dah Sunderland whhheyyy north boy, ah hope dem train have spirits, and doh mean no Jack the ripper, an ghost ah cristmas past - real jumbie type eh.....ok time to pull out the kneepads.....oh..dragon, juss as it have only one god, it have only one boss....check over yuh shoulder an yuh might see both ah dem...check nah ? yuh frighten ?
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Fellas, who not accustomed to the UK allyuh must get yuh bearings straight before yuh plan yuh trip and create a logistics disaster.
Check de map below. Southampton as you can see is BELOW London all the way to the south. Sunderland, Newcastle , Hartlepool and dem all on the opposite side of London way up North East, past the midlands that contain Birmingham, Coventry and such. Up further north, poor Latas and dem freezing dey tail off and kicking ball in gale force winds in Scotland ;D . Swansea, Cardiff and so on are iin Wales on the west.
Is a nice revision for the location of the football clubs.
http://footballclubs.dyndns.org/
And de regions of England: http://www.picturesofengland.com/mapofengland/regions.html
Allyuh traveling to Sunderland in the North East, then to Southampton at the bottom of the South East (near to the South West border). This was not meant to insult the intelligence of most of you who are familiar. Coolo breezo :beermug:
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A WARNING.
I hope you realise that Sunderland is on of the most racist towns in the UK today, the people there still judge people by the colour of their skin, only recently an African dance troupe were racially abused and spat upon while in the town centre trying to drum up some support for their show at the town hall that night and during an England International held there, there were loud sections of the crowd chanting racial abuse which the country was punished for.
Hope this doesnt happen on your trip!
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thks West coast...that post handy..
the reason as was checking with RTG doh..the fly in to Sunderland seem to involve flying in to Newcastle, bout $300 more from here, then on the 9th is off to Southampton, so ah still not sure where the most central location to be, considering that 2nd game...is it closer to London, or Sunderland...if London, is best man jus come thru dey, and chug-a-lug, up to Sunderland (or down, whereva)...maybe ah could google earth dat
yep: google map answer meh...
London in between Southhampton and Sunderland, dah Sunderland whhheyyy north boy, ah hope dem train have spirits, and doh mean no Jack the ripper, an ghost ah cristmas past - real jumbie type eh.....ok time to pull out the kneepads.....oh..dragon, juss as it have only one god, it have only one boss....check over yuh shoulder an yuh might see both ah dem...check nah ? yuh frighten ?
Somebody call my name?? Nah man, I would have made de trip but I really cah go nah. Too much wuk here and if I leave I might as well look for another place to wuk. :'( :'( :'(
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A WARNING.
I hope you realise that Sunderland is on of the most racist towns in the UK today, the people there still judge people by the colour of their skin, only recently an African dance troupe were racially abused and spat upon while in the town centre trying to drum up some support for their show at the town hall that night and during an England International held there, there were loud sections of the crowd chanting racial abuse which the country was punished for.
Hope this doesnt happen on your trip!
I find that sounding like a threat, but thanks for d advise.
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A WARNING.
I hope you realise that Sunderland is on of the most racist towns in the UK today, the people there still judge people by the colour of their skin, only recently an African dance troupe were racially abused and spat upon while in the town centre trying to drum up some support for their show at the town hall that night and during an England International held there, there were loud sections of the crowd chanting racial abuse which the country was punished for.
Hope this doesnt happen on your trip!
I find that sounding like a threat, but thanks for d advise.
Civic reception for 'abused' dancers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/3129111.stm)
Dancers brand city as racist (http://www.iicyc.com/iicyc/students/news/articles/42)
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No this is not a threat, I just thought that you should know what may a wait you when you arrive, I am not a Sunderland supporter myself but I know of people that have been abused while been at the town of Sunderland, as I say I hope this doesnt happen and you have an enjoyable trip.
Many thanks.
As you may not know Sunderland is only a town as it doesnt have a cathedral some people call it a city but it is one of the poorest in the UK as is there grasp on racial equality.
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A WARNING.
I hope you realise that Sunderland is on of the most racist towns in the UK today, the people there still judge people by the colour of their skin, only recently an African dance troupe were racially abused and spat upon while in the town centre trying to drum up some support for their show at the town hall that night and during an England International held there, there were loud sections of the crowd chanting racial abuse which the country was punished for.
Hope this doesnt happen on your trip!
I find that sounding like a threat, but thanks for d advise.
Civic reception for 'abused' dancers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/3129111.stm)
Dancers brand city as racist (http://www.iicyc.com/iicyc/students/news/articles/42)
yeh thanks i was now reading about it, its ashame that racism still goes on this day and age. thanks for the heads up Gooly ;)
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Gooly is a Newcastle fan, our hated rivals.
He is just trying to stir up trouble, please ignore him.You will all be made very welcome at the Sunderland match and we look forward to seeing you.
As an aside, Newcastle has a far worse record for racism. Everywhere has its share of morons, Sunderland is no worse than anywhere else.
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ok wtdog i found it strange that racism was brought up in forum.
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My My, arn't we attracting attention. Not only from supporters of our warriors but even their rivals. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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My My, arn't we attracting attention. Not only from supporters of our warriors but even their rivals. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
yeh i rel find it strange a man bring up racism in d forum jus so, but for real it like mind games lol :D
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ok wtdog i found it strange that racism was brought up in forum.
Do NOT be surprised if more rubbish like his posts appear. Newcastle United fans are very bitter and full of hatred for Sunderland.
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No this is not a threat, I just thought that you should know what may a wait you when you arrive, I am not a Sunderland supporter myself but I know of people that have been abused while been at the town of Sunderland, as I say I hope this doesnt happen and you have an enjoyable trip.
Many thanks.
As you may not know Sunderland is only a town as it doesnt have a cathedral some people call it a city but it is one of the poorest in the UK as is there grasp on racial equality.
Sunderland is a city, as made by royal appointment in 1992. You don't have to have a cathedral in order to be a city. Shows how much Gooly knows about Sunderland.
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No this is not a threat, I just thought that you should know what may a wait you when you arrive, I am not a Sunderland supporter myself but I know of people that have been abused while been at the town of Sunderland, as I say I hope this doesnt happen and you have an enjoyable trip.
Many thanks.
As you may not know Sunderland is only a town as it doesnt have a cathedral some people call it a city but it is one of the poorest in the UK as is there grasp on racial equality.
how much you all want to bet that it was a group of CUNFs from the dark side, the town in which there is a New Castle. :devil:
* KCUF THGIR FFO NOOT NOOT *
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And by the way guys, while you're here you may want to check out the beautiful Sunderland Minster. It's the cathedral that doesn't exist... ;)
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And by the way guys, while you're here you may want to check out the beautiful Sunderland Minster. It's the cathedral that doesn't exist... ;)
hahaha lol boy that gooly fellah aint easy nah WTF lol :rotfl:
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And by the way guys, while you're here you may want to check out the beautiful Sunderland Minster. It's the cathedral that doesn't exist... ;)
for those who do not know what Toonsted is talking about
read here (http://www2.citysun.ac.uk/minster/history.htm) and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunderland_Minster)
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And by the way guys, while you're here you may want to check out the beautiful Sunderland Minster. It's the cathedral that doesn't exist... ;)
for those who do not know what Toonsted is talking about
read here (http://www2.citysun.ac.uk/minster/history.htm) and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunderland_Minster)
It might also be noted that York, one of our oldest and most beautiful cities also has a minster and not a cathedral. :whistling:
Don't take any notice of idiots like Gooly trying to stir up trouble, it seems he's a little ill informed. Enjoy your trip to Sunderland.
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Gooly is a NUFC fan.
Let me tell you about them.
They are our very bitter rivals, and are VERY afraid of the success that our Warriors are helping to bring to SAFC.
They are so afraid of us that they tell lies and make up stories, in fact anything to try and halt our great success,
The whole of Sunderland will be glad to welcome you, there is no racism here and I look forward to meeting some of you at the airport or train station to give you a lift, see you soon xx :-* :-*
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It might also be noted that York, one of our oldest and most beautiful cities also has a minster and not a cathedral. :whistling:
Don't take any notice of idiots like Gooly trying to stir up trouble, it seems he's a little ill informed. Enjoy your trip to Sunderland.
dont worry Makm, I know a carTOON when I see one.
HAY, look, here comes one now :D :D
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Hi, Im a long-time poster (aka sad git) on the SMB and new guest here. Fantastic message board. :rotfl: ;D
Anyway, Im not sure who is coordinating things from our end - ie the Sunderland end - but if anyone needs any help to get them to the Wolves match, whether it would be lifts, accommodation, r anything else whatsoever, then dont hesitate to ask. You will be made very welcome, as you will by all at Sunderland, Im sure.
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hey Warriors - tek no notice of the ravings of a deluded Magpie. >:(
You'll be most welcome in Sunderland, and we're looking forward to your visit :beermug: :D
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Sunderland is a city, as made by royal appointment in 1992. You don't have to have a cathedral in order to be a city. Shows how much Gooly knows about Sunderland.
Next up... why Sunderland is not a City on account of the train station only having 2 platforms.
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Sunderland-Biggest city between Edinburgh and Leeds-fact.
Gawd, can't believe that lowlife goolie has got me biting :-X
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Sunderland-Biggest city between Edinburgh and Leeds-fact.
Gawd, can't believe that lowlife goolie has got me biting :-X
Exactly.
Anyway, I can't wait for the Wolves game. The atmosphere will be amazing. Roll on the 7th ;D ;D :beermug:
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i'll be drinking pints of malibu all day :devil:
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After this i now have a hate for Newcastle. ;D lets scalp those Fu*%kers :devil:
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I always knew that Newcastle fans were very bitter but this post by gooly astounds me. I cannot believe he would stoop so low as to call Sunderland a racist 'town'
He is a very very bitter and twisted individual and is obviously very jealous of the global attention Sunderland is getting these days. I am amazed he is trying to frighten fans so that they do not come to the game.
As I hope you are all aware by the Sunderland fans who come on here, we are a very friendly bunch and you will be made so very welcome.
It will be a fantastic occasion and the Newcastle fans or as they are locally known, the cartoon army, will be looking on enviously.
p.s. gooly, get yourself on the smb so I can swear at you :devil:
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After this i now have a hate for Newcastle. ;D lets scalp those Fu*%kers :devil:
I'm with you dude :rotfl:
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After this i now have a hate for Newcastle. ;D lets scalp those Fu*%kers :devil:
:rotfl: :rotfl: I love this place
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Hey cartman make sure and give gooly a good cuss for me nah :devil:
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After this i now have a hate for Newcastle. ;D lets scalp those Fu*%kers :devil:
:rotfl: :rotfl: I love this place
fancy a weekend in Trinny? have a look on easyjet, marra :cheers:
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Hey cartman make sure and give gooly a good cuss for me nah :devil:
he's probably just a skinny spotty 12 year old kid.....he certainly does not have the intelligence of an adult :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Hey cartman make sure and give gooly a good cuss for me nah :devil:
he's probably just a skinny spotty 12 year old kid.....he certainly does not have the intelligence of an adult :rotfl: :rotfl:
oh lord hahaha u good yes :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: for real
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Alright lads & lasses... seems to be a few of us smb'ers on here now ;)
Gooly is just stirring up trouble, obviously every place has it's idiots but you'll be made to feel very welcome in Sunderland :beermug:
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Alright lads & lasses... seems to be a few of us smb'ers on here now ;)
Gooly is just stirring up trouble, obviously every place has it's idiots but you'll be made to feel very welcome in Sunderland :beermug:
do you know of him G Force, he is not registered on SMB? I don't go on skunkers as the place stinks of sh*t :rotfl: is he from there?
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Looks like some folks at SMB are pushing back hard on the idea of a rhythm section all match long... ???
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=206276
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Looks like some folks at SMB are pushing back hard on the idea of a rhythm section all match long... ???
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=206276
Redtrinigirl has said all along that she does not intend to have the band playing during the game anyway, just a few grumpy old men with hearing aids kicking off :rotfl: :rotfl:
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After this i now have a hate for Newcastle. ;D lets scalp those Fu*%kers :devil:
:rotfl: :rotfl: I love this place
fancy a weekend in Trinny? have a look on easyjet, marra :cheers:
good call mate 7 beers (Red Stripe) ;) :cheers:
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Looks like some folks at SMB are pushing back hard on the idea of a rhythm section all match long... ???
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=206276
I wouldn't take it personally... some people on there were complaining cos there was a Mexican Wave in the ground a couple of weeks back.
And if you read the whole thread, there's only 1, maybe 2, people who are actually against it. And they probably sit in the East Stand (aka The Morgue).
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Looks like some folks at SMB are pushing back hard on the idea of a rhythm section all match long... ???
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=206276
Everyone is up for it apart from a couple of miserable bassas ;D :beermug:
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Hi, Im a long-time poster (aka sad git) on the SMB and new guest here. Fantastic message board. :rotfl: ;D
Anyway, Im not sure who is coordinating things from our end - ie the Sunderland end - but if anyone needs any help to get them to the Wolves match, whether it would be lifts, accommodation, r anything else whatsoever, then dont hesitate to ask. You will be made very welcome, as you will by all at Sunderland, Im sure.
See Cartman and whoever said 'Morgue' I protest, I'm in the East Stand and I'm very happy! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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i would so love to be their that day.
mind, id love to be their just about every other saturday an all.
btw.... http://www.xl.com/Champion/cheap-flights-to-tobago.asp?WT.srch=1
not as dear as I'd have thought. :-\
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Total (GBP)£260.00
wow not bad at all
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Hi all.
I'm a person of mixed race living in the Durham area of the north east & would like to add my twopenneth to this thread.
I have visited Sunderland & Newcastle on many occasions & always found Sunderland people friendly & inviting.
Sadly I could not say the same for Newcastle, where I now keep visits to a minimum due to a number of frightening incidents in the past.
You can't legislate for idiots though & it was a shame the steel band were abused, but it was by a small number of scumbags that you find in every city, don't let it put anybody off.
Cyas DaG.
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My first post on here and I'm well pleased that it's to celebrate the first visit of the Soca Warriors to the City of Sunderland. Let's hope it's the first of many.
Eat your heart out Gooly, the Warriors are on their way. :beermug:
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My first post on here and I'm well pleased that it's to celebrate the first visit of the Soca Warriors to the City of Sunderland. Let's hope it's the first of many.
Eat your heart out Gooly, the Warriors are on their way. :beermug:
Yeah, we definitely supporting SAFC big-time now!
Check my myspace page at www.myspace.com/socaprofessor for a good example.
It is now virtually an advert for Sunderland's drive for promotion to the Premiership! And many of my myspace friends will now be following Sunderland with keen interest as we of course highlight the contributions of our 3 Soca Warriors to the promotion campaign!
I'm sure some of them will also be keen to come along to the Easter game once I place the advert on my page!! ;D
Btw down with Newcastle, the hate is amazing! :chilling:
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They're just bitter that we have fans all over the world now
and we have Keano and Quinn instead of Glenn Rodent and Fat Freddy Shepherd
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Actually I am from Spain and support Real Madrid and if Sunderland have more fans than our team I will eat my hat, I moved to the North East of England for work and lived in Sunderland for 6 months, where I found the expierience very unpleasant so I had to move away for my kids sake. I can assure you that people in Spain have heard of Newcastle but not Sunderland. I not sure who Nial Quinn is.
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Yeah, we definitely supporting SAFC big-time now!
Check my myspace page at www.myspace.com/socaprofessor for a good example.
It is now virtually an advert for Sunderland's drive for promotion to the Premiership! And many of my myspace friends will now be following Sunderland with keen interest as we of course highlight the contributions of our 3 Soca Warriors to the promotion campaign!
I'm sure some of them will also be keen to come along to the Easter game once I place the advert on my page!! ;D
Btw down with Newcastle, the hate is amazing! :chilling:
Cracking work Socapro, welcome to the Mackem army. A word of advice if I may , don't hate them, pity them. ;)
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Actually I am from Spain and support Real Madrid and if Sunderland have more fans than our team I will eat my hat, I moved to the North East of England for work and lived in Sunderland for 6 months, where I found the expierience very unpleasant so I had to move away for my kids sake. I can assure you that people in Spain have heard of Newcastle but not Sunderland. I not sure who Nial Quinn is.
:rotfl:
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Actually I am from Spain and support Real Madrid and if Sunderland have more fans than our team I will eat my hat, I moved to the North East of England for work and lived in Sunderland for 6 months, where I found the expierience very unpleasant so I had to move away for my kids sake. I can assure you that people in Spain have heard of Newcastle but not Sunderland. I not sure who Nial Quinn is.
are you sure your not from Barcelona?
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Actually I am from Spain and support Real Madrid and if Sunderland have more fans than our team I will eat my hat, I moved to the North East of England for work and lived in Sunderland for 6 months, where I found the expierience very unpleasant so I had to move away for my kids sake. I can assure you that people in Spain have heard of Newcastle but not Sunderland. I not sure who Nial Quinn is.
Piss poor ! Must try harder ! :D
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Actually I am from Spain and support Real Madrid and if Sunderland have more fans than our team I will eat my hat, I moved to the North East of England for work and lived in Sunderland for 6 months, where I found the expierience very unpleasant so I had to move away for my kids sake. I can assure you that people in Spain have heard of Newcastle but not Sunderland. I not sure who Nial Quinn is.
If anyone is racist on here it's you, also I do not for one minutes believe you are from Spain but I could be wrong. Are you saying that all Sunderland fans are racist?
Sunderland like all UK cities has an element of racism but it is certainly not the most racist CITY in the country. Over the years at Sunderland we have had many black players and they have been crowd favourites, the same players suffered racist abuse at most grounds in the country, none more so than Newcastle where they had bananas thrown at them in the eighties. This has never happened at Sunderland.
Newcastle was always known as one of the most racist clubs and on match days National Front literature was freely handed out to fans. I am not saying Sunderland fans are angels and if I am honest I have heard one or two racist comments from fans but they are a minority and are swiftly dealt with either by other fans or the stewards.
I am proud that my football team has players from all over the world, variety is the spice of life imho
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Actually I am from Spain and support Real Madrid and if Sunderland have more fans than our team I will eat my hat, I moved to the North East of England for work and lived in Sunderland for 6 months, where I found the expierience very unpleasant so I had to move away for my kids sake. I can assure you that people in Spain have heard of Newcastle but not Sunderland. I not sure who Nial Quinn is.
Piss poor ! Must try harder ! :D
If as he says, he is from Spain and does not support Newcastle, why is he registered on here and why is he taking an interest in Sunderland? I don't believe him at all
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Actually I am from Spain and support Real Madrid and if Sunderland have more fans than our team I will eat my hat, I moved to the North East of England for work and lived in Sunderland for 6 months, where I found the expierience very unpleasant so I had to move away for my kids sake. I can assure you that people in Spain have heard of Newcastle but not Sunderland. I not sure who Nial Quinn is.
Piss poor ! Must try harder ! :D
If as he says, he is from Spain and does not support Newcastle, why is he registered on here and why is he taking an interest in Sunderland? I don't believe him at all
Fee Fie Foe Fum I can smell nufc1992's bum !
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could be :rotfl:
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could be :rotfl:
I'm surprised his mam still let's him on the computer after she caught him in a state of excitement whilst downloading Leather joy boys ! ;D
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could be :rotfl:
I'm surprised his mam still let's him on the computer after she caught him in a state of excitement whilst downloading Leather joy boys ! ;D
Hahaha Oh lord tht was a good laugh, hard luck gooly :rotfl:
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Actually I am from Spain and support Real Madrid and if Sunderland have more fans than our team I will eat my hat, I moved to the North East of England for work and lived in Sunderland for 6 months, where I found the expierience very unpleasant so I had to move away for my kids sake. I can assure you that people in Spain have heard of Newcastle but not Sunderland. I not sure who Nial Quinn is.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:You is funny.
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could be :rotfl:
I'm surprised his mam still let's him on the computer after she caught him in a state of excitement whilst downloading Leather joy boys ! ;D
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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Evening, Trini friends from another lifelong SAFC supporter. ;)
Just to say we've been running a poll on the SMB and the huge majority of Sunderland fans would definitely welcome some music in the stands during our 'carnival' game when your supporters will be with us. Why not? Lets' have some fun!
Here's the link:
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=206396&page=3
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Evening, Trini friends from another lifelong SAFC supporter. ;)
Just to say we've been running a poll on the SMB and the huge majority of Sunderland fans would definitely welcome some music in the stands during our 'carnival' game when your supporters will be with us. Why not? Lets' have some fun!
Here's the link:
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=206396&page=3
welcome PS nice to meet you enjoy the site ;)
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This is my first post on this borad got to say the support sunderland are getting is fantastic. I would also like to offer any help to those that are planning the trip up.
I read a post saying that sunderland is a racist city, I am very offended by this, as the people of sunderland are fantastic friendly people.
Every where has a very few idiots that will stir up trouble. but i am willing to stand along side our new friends and supporters. so for all the mackems on this message borad need to together
Haway the lads!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is my first post on this borad got to say the support sunderland are getting is fantastic. I would also like to offer any help to those that are planning the trip up.
I read a post saying that sunderland is a racist city, I am very offended by this, as the people of sunderland are fantastic friendly people.
Every where has a very few idiots that will stir up trouble. but i am willing to stand along side our new friends and supporters. so for all the mackems on this message borad need to together
Haway the lads!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeh tht damn gooly and he racist talk, like he lookin for a friend
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Phewww De wifey almost scare me.. Ah try to come dey bymyself but now she want to come too. Well it go work out in my favor...
Ah go bring she tuh england.. drop she and dee kids by meh cousin on friday.. Den early Saturday leave for Sunderland after de game celebrate the spend Sunday by de family come back to Germany on monday...
I twork out that if she and de kids come to london I eh have tuh hurry back tuh Germany. How far is Stansted from London?
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the stansted express runs from the airport to liverpool street station (in the city) this leaves every 15 minutes and takes 45 minutes you can also get buses in.
What part of London you going to ?
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I have to call my family later this evening. Will post it later
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Evening, Trini friends from another lifelong SAFC supporter. ;)
Just to say we've been running a poll on the SMB and the huge majority of Sunderland fans would definitely welcome some music in the stands during our 'carnival' game when your supporters will be with us. Why not? Lets' have some fun!
Here's the link:
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=206396&page=3
Welcome to our site dude.....I am sure I know you from somewhere though :chilling:
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Actually I am from Spain and support Real Madrid and if Sunderland have more fans than our team I will eat my hat, I moved to the North East of England for work and lived in Sunderland for 6 months, where I found the expierience very unpleasant so I had to move away for my kids sake. I can assure you that people in Spain have heard of Newcastle but not Sunderland. I not sure who Nial Quinn is.
F**k off Toon Toon
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Have you thought about where your all gonna sit in the stadium yet? Could be worth planning because not everyone is going to want to be sat behind a goal, in the upper tiers, in a corner etc... and if your planning to all sit together or in close proximity of each other it'll be best to get it all worked out in advance so everyone's as happy as they can be (lets face it, it's never going to be ideal for everyone)
Not sure where would be best tbh, I go between the South West Corner and the North West Corner depending on who I go to the match with. The SWC is good for atmosphere, the NWC is less rowdy so good if your taking kids or just want to sit back and watch the match
Might be an idea to get a poll going on where people want to sit based on what they want from the seats (View, Atmosphere etc...)
I'm sure one of us would help set it up with a short description of the benefits of each section of the stadium
If this has already been done just ignore me ;D
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I in with three others, just got our game for that day postponed as the team has to attend an important Trinidadian cultural event ;D
We will be driving up from london and staying the night
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where are you all meeting before the game would like to meet up and join the carnival atmosphere
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How many Trinis' do you expect at the Sol on the 7th, any ideas? The press are talking about 200 but I have seen nothing on here to back that up
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How many Trinis' do you expect at the Sol on the 7th, any ideas? The press are talking about 200 but I have seen nothing on here to back that up
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How many Trinis' do you expect at the Sol on the 7th, any ideas? The press are talking about 200 but I have seen nothing on here to back that up
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You say owt you daddyo lad :rotfl:
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The flyer is done, which can be seen in the first post of this thread as well as on the Warrior Nation website (http://www.thewarriornation.com/content/view/99/36/).
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How many Trinis' do you expect at the Sol on the 7th, any ideas? The press are talking about 200 but I have seen nothing on here to back that up
Ever hear about de wood works ;D Dat where de 200+ coming out from ;D ;D you will see
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(http://www.thewarriornation.com/images/stories/WN_Roadtrip_SunderlandvsWolves.jpg)
I like dat
I will be there
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The game may be online on this site (http://www.myp2p.eu/Matches/Match2.htm) <-- click here.
and maybe here also (http://www.fsicrew.info/index.php?page=schedule)<-- click here
Ha'Way the Lads!!!!!
Sunderland................We Want a Goal!!!!!
Tuesday, 13 March 2007
Coventry v Wolverhampton, 19:45
Derby v QPR, 19:45
Leicester v Leeds, 19:45
Luton v Hull, 19:45
Norwich v Birmingham, 19:45
Preston v Ipswich, 19:45
Sheff Wed v Colchester, 19:45
Southampton v Cardiff, 19:45
Southend v Burnley, 19:45
Sunderland v Stoke, 20:00
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Thanks WC
2nd place beckons...good luck to the whole Sunderland squad
Are Yorke and Anthony Stokes back fuh this game?
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when I get the possible line up from RTG I will post here.
Second would be good ;)
Sorry Mods, forgot that there was another Sunderland vs Stokes thread.
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when I get the possible line up from RTG I will post here.
Second would be good ;)
thanks breds
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Lets hope QPR does us a favour and defeat Derby
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go sunderland :wavetowel:
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Sentana Sports USA carrying the game
whoever has this channel, this is your chance to do something good
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Sunderland 3 v 0 Stoke City
A'way the Lads
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The game is live on Sky Sports 2 for anyone in the UK ;D
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It showing :wavetowel:
http://www.myp2p.eu/Matches/Match2.htm
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for those who have it or can download it..
the game is showing on sopcast.
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what channel?
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Stern and Dwight in de starting line up against Stoke!
Birchall on de bench against Wolves
Kenwyne out versus Cardiff
ah love it!!
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Derby a goal down to QPR so far
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It showing :wavetowel:
http://www.myp2p.eu/Matches/Match2.htm
which channel???
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GOOOOAAAAL equalize
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does anyone have an audio link?
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does anyone have an audio link?
http://matchlive.safc.premiumtv.co.uk/mlex/258741/matches/05042006/2656391/match_console.html?clubid=10281
Save it in your favorites for the future.
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does anyone have an audio link?
http://matchlive.safc.premiumtv.co.uk/mlex/258741/matches/05042006/2656391/match_console.html?clubid=10281
Save it in your favorites for the future.
Thanks friday but I tried and that link ain't working :beermug:
this one is though:
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
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does anyone have an audio link?
http://matchlive.safc.premiumtv.co.uk/mlex/258741/matches/05042006/2656391/match_console.html?clubid=10281
Save it in your favorites for the future.
It works you have to click on the right link to change game and then it updates the screen. Then on the left you put the audio on and select your team
Thanks friday but I tried and that link ain't working :beermug:
this one is though:
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
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stoke - 2
sunderland - 1
Half time
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Come on Sunlun
Derby and Birmingham are losing 1-0 so far...hopefully that stays
Southampton leading 2-1
St. Johnstone down 2-0
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All de Trinis off now so Trinderland back to Sunderland
Still Trailing though! :-[
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Southampton gave up de lead to tie 2-2 FT....so they get one point
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GAOLLLLL !!! GOALLLL
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oh gosh one more fellas come on
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Was hoping for the win, but good job to equalize in the final minute of the game anyway
2-2 FT, they come away with one point at least
Birmingham lorse, Derby tied, Southampton tied
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On the positive side we did not lose ground. :applause:
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/tables/cc_champ.html
FOOTBALL LIVE TABLES
Coca-Cola Championship
Team P Pts Goals Diff Goal Scored Current Score
Birmingham 37 70 20 54 0-1 FT v Norwich
Derby 38 70 13 51 1-1 FT v QPR
Sunderland 38 67 19 58 2-2 FT v Stoke
Preston 37 65 13 54 1-0 FT v Ipswich
Wolverhampton 38 65 4 43 1-2 v Coventry
West Brom 37 63 21 63
Cardiff 38 63 14 53 2-2 FT v Southampton
Southampton 38 60 14 60 2-2 FT v Cardiff
Stoke 38 58 15 47 2-2 FT v Sunderland
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Well done Sunderland. Good fight to get that late equaliser. Yorke was solid in the first half and Stern coulda do better with a chance in the first half too. But all in all, a good point today.
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Got to win the home games.
This team doesn't need to be a part of the play-off,
they need to be in the top 2.
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Stoke was never going to be an easy 3 points. Yeah, winning at home important but yuh cyah knock scoring in the last minute to get a point after playing a mediocre game. Plus there are enough games remaining to catch up to Birmingham and Derby for automatic qualification.
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Dem fans done start to turn on Stern arready yes.
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Dem fans done start to turn on Stern arready yes.
Obviously I wasn't there, but I though that Stern was one of our more threatening attackers in the first half... 2nd, he seemed to lose his way, along with Yorkie, and the rest of the team (to be honest).
1 point gained, rather than 2 lost, on that performance.
Expecting Keane to give the whole squad the hairdryer after that turn up.
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A draw is not a bad result. With the run that Sunderland has been on it is very difficult to win every fixture.
They drop a couple points so now they can regroup and start again. Automatic promotion will be tough but right now it is a straight race between them and Derby for 2nd place.
Whoever picks up one more win gets the prize.
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Dem fans done start to turn on Stern arready yes.
Remedy, there are TnT peeps :o who run de man dong even though he is the highest scorer for TnT.
Go figure
It is ALL part of Football, I guess ;)
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West, tell Roy, somebody say....nah...tell him, maxg say, bring Stern orf the bench for the last 30 mins every game, and he will get more percentage and goals, rather than his present reverse strategy...tell him ask Bruce, bout meh credentials, besides how good he get cuss when, he diss Stern when that same man carry them up...an look how payback go go from being ah biatch to ah Bravo...Call d man an tell him nah.. :devil:
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Remedy, there are TnT peeps :o who run de man dong even though he is the highest scorer for TnT.
Go figure
It is ALL part of Football, I guess ;)
Got to say though, the man's attempt at a lob in the first half was horrible....
Otherwise, I though he put in a tidy performance and was probably unlucky to be subbed... could have been any one of the starting XI who went off.
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West, tell Roy, somebody say....nah...tell him, maxg say, bring Stern orf the bench for the last 30 mins every game, and he will get more percentage and goals, rather than his present reverse strategy...tell him ask Bruce, bout meh credentials, besides how good he get cuss when, he diss Stern when that same man carry them up...an look how payback go go from being ah biatch to ah Bravo...Call d man an tell him nah.. :devil:
But who's going to start for us? ??? ???
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West, tell Roy, somebody say....nah...tell him, maxg say, bring Stern orf the bench for the last 30 mins every game, and he will get more percentage and goals, rather than his present reverse strategy...tell him ask Bruce, bout meh credentials, besides how good he get cuss when, he diss Stern when that same man carry them up...an look how payback go go from being ah biatch to ah Bravo...Call d man an tell him nah.. :devil:
But who's going to start for us? ??? ???
some on here would say you're better off starting with 10 men
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some on here would say you're better off starting with 10 men
;D ;D
allya men is kicks
Bravo goin an show allya ;)
West, tell Roy, somebody say....nah...tell him, maxg say, bring Stern orf the bench for the last 30 mins every game, and he will get more percentage and goals, rather than his present reverse strategy...tell him ask Bruce, bout meh credentials, besides how good he get cuss when, he diss Stern when that same man carry them up...an look how payback go go from being ah biatch to ah Bravo...Call d man an tell him nah.. :devil:
his executive assisstant keeps hanging up on me ;D ;)
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yeah...is so Bruce used to play it too...at first...doh say maxg then...say...ahmm..sayy TI...dey bound lissen den...no choice...
:devil:
jess kicks eh TI...doh get Tman to buss meh head with ah big Steeps dey....
alllyuh shhhhh...doh let disguntle hear dis thread nah
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One of the administrators need to make this post a sticky so that it stays at the top of the forum page (page 1) thus giving everyone a chance to catch it!
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Dem fans done start to turn on Stern arready yes.
Just saw the highlights on Sky sports. The chip or lob that Stern had to make was not very easy, but an average striker would have scored. The problem is that Stern’s effort was not close and didn’t look good. We have seen Stern lob from midfield to the center of the goal in the mexico game. To those of us who know Stern we expect a few misses and hope that he makes up for it the next time. But to those who don't know .....
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Dem fans done start to turn on Stern arready yes.
Just saw the highlights on Sky sports. The chip or lob that Stern had to make was not very easy, but an average striker would have scored. The problem is that Stern’s effort was not close and didn’t look good. We have seen Stern lob from midfield to the center of the goal in the mexico game. To those of us who know Stern we expect a few misses and hope that he makes up for it the next time. But to those who don't know .....
problem was that he never had the ball under control for that effort, didn't look like he was going to control it either, he was in 3 minds what to do with it, should have hammered it instead of trying to lob him, oh well, he is gonna score goals as well as miss em, i think he is OK and will get goals and assists, as in Yorkies goal against W Brom.Haway the Lads
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Oh gosh man, allyuh need Carlos. Not lying, it looking like it will be a lil harder getting that auto qual spot without "Roadrunner" :D
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Oh gosh man, allyuh need Carlos. Not lying, it looking like it will be a lil harder getting that auto qual spot without "Roadrunner" :D
agree Redtrini, but we will still make it ;D
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3 more points for an automatic promotion spot!
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On right now.....http://202.64.47.26/~mydesi/cricket3.htm
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On right now.....http://202.64.47.26/~mydesi/cricket3.htm
ya real fool me
I thought it was World Cup of Cricket ;D ;D
Thank you :applause: :applause:
some very good comments about Dwight. ;)
and about Stern also
aye aye back to Football....... ;D ;D
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Please note West Brom is down 1-2 to Crystal Palace right now
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West, tell Roy, somebody say....nah...tell him, maxg say, bring Stern orf the bench for the last 30 mins every game, and he will get more percentage and goals, rather than his present reverse strategy...tell him ask Bruce, bout meh credentials, besides how good he get cuss when, he diss Stern when that same man carry them up...an look how payback go go from being ah biatch to ah Bravo...Call d man an tell him nah.. :devil:
:notworthy:
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Ok people, coach bus available to the stadium. If we manage to fill out a 74-seater, yuh looking at £25 per person. If we take a smaller bus, yuh looking at £30 per person.
Please contact me to let me know if you're interested.
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I will be there landing in Stansted on Friday. Spending de night with my family there den traveling to london from there on Saturday morning. What time do we need to be there for the bus. and where is there ???
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Well I was thinking some place easy to get to, like Victoria station. And it's an early one I'm afraid, 7:30 am meet up.
Once I get an idea of how many people prefer to take the coach, I can make movements. Cause I not going and book a 74-seater coach when so far only about 20 people say they will take that option if it's available.
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So I only need to get to London den you hooking up de ride to Sunderland. dais cool.
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Yep, I doing all de hard work free of charge. Organising tickets, transport, entertainment, even food now....lol
Allyuh ass real spoil! All yuh have to do now is show up! (with yuh money of course ;))
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well you could count me in ;D
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160 Sunderland fans were on a plane at Bristol airport waiting to fly home when the steward kicked off a couple of fans for being a little drunk, one was actually disabled and not drunk. Anyway Quinny got involved and told them if they would not let the 2 lads fly then he wasn't flying either so he and all 160 fans got off the plane.
Quinny then arranged and payed for taxis to get the fans home, he was heard to say 'these are my people' can't imagine any other chairman doing this. There is a huge thread on SMB with witness accounts etc
The man is hero
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Quinn would have a good future in politics.
He is a bright fella, and not just compared to other footballers.
I can't like him too much as hr is a former Arsenal and City player. He also hung Keane out to dry over his testimonial but they have obviously made amends so that is not my grudge to bear.
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160 Sunderland fans were on a plane at Bristol airport waiting to fly home when the steward kicked off a couple of fans for being a little drunk, one was actually disabled and not drunk. Anyway Quinny got involved and told them if they would not let the 2 lads fly then he wasn't flying either so he and all 160 fans got off the plane.
Quinny then arranged and payed for taxis to get the fans home, he was heard to say 'these are my people' can't imagine any other chairman doing this. There is a huge thread on SMB with witness accounts etc
The man is hero
Lyrics for: Quinn The Chairman
Everybody's building the big ships and the boats,
Some are building monuments,
Others, jotting down notes,
Everybody's in despair,
Every girl and boy
But when Quinn the Chairman gets here,
Everybody's gonna jump for joy.
Come all without, come all within,
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.
I like to do just like the rest, I like my sugar sweet,
But guarding fumes and making haste,
It ain't my cup of meat.
Everybody's 'neath the trees,
Feeding pigeons on a limb
But when Quinn the Chairman gets here,
All the pigeons gonna run to him.
Come all without, come all within,
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.
A cat's meow and a cow's moo, I can recite 'em all,
Just tell me where it hurts ya, honey,
And I'll tell you who to call.
Nobody can get no sleep,
There's someone on everyone's toes
But when Quinn the Chairman gets here,
Everybody's gonna wanna doze.
Come all without, come all within,
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.
;) ;)
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160 Sunderland fans were on a plane at Bristol airport waiting to fly home when the steward kicked off a couple of fans for being a little drunk, one was actually disabled and not drunk. Anyway Quinny got involved and told them if they would not let the 2 lads fly then he wasn't flying either so he and all 160 fans got off the plane.
Quinny then arranged and payed for taxis to get the fans home, he was heard to say 'these are my people' can't imagine any other chairman doing this. There is a huge thread on SMB with witness accounts etc
The man is hero
Lyrics for: Quinn The Chairman
Everybody's building the big ships and the boats,
Some are building monuments,
Others, jotting down notes,
Everybody's in despair,
Every girl and boy
But when Quinn the Chairman gets here,
Everybody's gonna jump for joy.
Come all without, come all within,
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.
I like to do just like the rest, I like my sugar sweet,
But guarding fumes and making haste,
It ain't my cup of meat.
Everybody's 'neath the trees,
Feeding pigeons on a limb
But when Quinn the Chairman gets here,
All the pigeons gonna run to him.
Come all without, come all within,
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.
A cat's meow and a cow's moo, I can recite 'em all,
Just tell me where it hurts ya, honey,
And I'll tell you who to call.
Nobody can get no sleep,
There's someone on everyone's toes
But when Quinn the Chairman gets here,
Everybody's gonna wanna doze.
Come all without, come all within,
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.
;) ;)
You been drinking Westcoast :rotfl:
The story is all over the british press this morning mate, more good publicity
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You been drinking Westcoast :rotfl:
The story is all over the british press this morning mate, more good publicity
What ???
That I changed the lyrics of Manfred Mann's Song :devil:
yeah I know it's a GREAT story
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You been drinking Westcoast :rotfl:
The story is all over the british press this morning mate, more good publicity
What ???
That I changed the lyrics of Manfred Mann's Song :devil:
yeah I know it's a GREAT story
Niall Quinn's taxi cabs are the best,
So shove it up your bollocks Easy-Jet,
Fat Fred would never do this for the Mags,
Niall Quinn's taxi cabs.
(courtesy of cipp)
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Quinn rescues stranded fans
Breaking news
View GalleryBy Fiona Thompson
Niall Quinn stepped in to get 80 Sunderland supporters home after their flight was cancelled by airline bosses.
The club chairman was one of the passengers due to travel on the easyJet plane from Bristol to Newcastle last night following the team's 1-0 victory over Cardiff.
A dozen fans were taken off the aircraft and more than 100 were left waiting on board for more than an hour before the captain announced that it was being cancelled.
Staff claimed drunk passengers were causing a security risk, but fans and the club have said they saw no evidence of trouble.
The Irishman and his staff took action and called on a fleet of 18 taxis to make the 310 mile journey back to the North East
A total fare of £8,000 was run up on the taxis, with Quinn and his party also making sure those who had decided to catch the next flight were safe before they too headed home in one of the cars.
EasyJet said it scrapped the 9.25pm flight due to "disruptive behaviour" caused by those who had been drinking and offered passengers hotel accommodation and a transfer onto the next available flight.
Witnesses say two vans of police officers were called to escort fans from the plane and have praised Quinn for coming to their rescue.
http://www.sunderlandtoday.co.uk/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleID=2207042&SectionID=1107
Fans thrown off plane over Niall Quinn's Disco Pants
Audrey Gillan
Monday April 2, 2007
The Guardian
It began with a crowd of fans singing Niall Quinn's Disco Pants, led to the cancellation of an easyJet flight and ended with the aforenamed chairman of Sunderland football club shelling out £8,000 on taxis so they could all go home.
A 1-0 victory over Cardiff in the Championship on Saturday left Sunderland fans in a merry mood. On sighting the chairman - christened Saint Niall for rekindling fortunes at the Stadium of Light - the fans, to the tune of Here We Go, belted out: "Niall Quinn's disco pants are the best. They go up from his arse to his chest. They're better than Adam and the Ants. Niall Quinn's disco pants."
When they continued singing on the plane, easyJet called the police. Some fans were ejected and the flight was cancelled after missing its take-off slot. Quinn and some of his staff had been aboard, while the players had caught an earlier flight.
Around 100 Sunderland supporters were stuck at the airport until Quinn ordered taxis for everybody. One fan said: "It must have cost a fortune but it shows again that he's the most decent bloke in football. I can't think of a single chairman or a single club that would do something like that for its fans ... everyone thanks him from the bottom of their hearts."
A spokesman for easyJet said a group of passengers had been ejected for disruptive behaviour "and the flight was consequently cancelled. The airline offered those passengers not involved a free transfer on to the next available flight and hotel accommodation."
This account was disputed by Quinn, who said there was no disruptive behaviour. "The mood was humorous and everyone was in good spirits after our fine victory. Nevertheless we were faced with a situation where our fans were stranded and needed assistance. The club was happy to provide transport back to the north-east for the group, which included children, elderly and disabled fans, as their safety and wellbeing was paramount.
"We also deny the airline's claim that overnight accommodation was offered and this was witnessed by several independent parties. Thankfully everyone returned home safely and we will now draw a line under this. To any fans who still feel aggrieved, remember the three points came home as well."
The former Ireland international had his disco pants immortalised when he played for Manchester City - released as a single, the song peaked at No 56 in the UK singles chart in April 1999.
It is not Quinn's first act of generosity. In 2002 he donated the proceeds of his testimonial match between Sunderland and the Republic of Ireland to charity. Quinn, who played for both teams during the match, received an MBE. Instead of an appearance fee for the game, all the players received a letter from a sick child.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2048124,00.html
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Looking forward to meeting my buddy Niall this Easter Saturday!
He's a great lad isn't he?! :chilling:
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Confirmed on Setanta North America at 12pm, for a 12.15pm k.o.
Anyone in TO fancying a beer, see ya in Scallywags (http://www.scallywags.net)... :beermug: :beermug:
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Hopefully all our Trini players have a good game in this contest...I wah Kenwyne score..becuase since comin off dat injury he has not played in his normal skin..so a goal would restore some of that old confidence
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decisions decisions decisions..hmmm maybe ah draw would be best here oui. Hopefully Sunderland Wins their 1st game over de weekend ;D Southampton needs some points to get into the top 6 :beermug:
Big Up!
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Who goin to make sure they get their hot cross buns. It is easter after all
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Game starting in 10 mins
All info should be posted in this thread
Lets go Sunderland!
Any stream???
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audio link?
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http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?p=3049365#post3049365
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stern starting
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Carlos playing nice ;D
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And Carlos.... and he is already making his presence felt even as I type.....
Go Subderland!!!!
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1-0 Sunderland....
D.Murphy..according to livescore
Come on Stern and Carlitos!
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1-0 HT
How are our boys playing??
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I not hearin de WN riddim section ;)
how much ah dem went?
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I not hearin de WN riddim section ;)
how much ah dem went?
i was now going to say i eh hearing dem..
i sure they will represent though
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I not hearin de WN riddim section ;)
how much ah dem went?
i was now going to say i eh hearing dem..
i sure they will represent though
they on now! niceness
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Good luck Sunderland in de 2nd half...keep up de pressure
Happy Easter....
Point me to de cross buns
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the Lads on the Sunderland chat room say there are 7 Trinis there :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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the Lads on the Sunderland chat room say there are 7 Trinis there :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Spoke to Soca pro & ThemanFriday this morning as they were travelling and Theman said they were on a 35 seater coach with about two empty seats. So it is definitely not that bad.... don't believe everything yuh read. There are also people who made theiir own way down(up), as I was planning to do from Wolverhampton.
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the Lads on the Sunderland chat room say there are 7 Trinis there :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Spoke to Soca pro & ThemanFriday this morning as they were travelling and Theman said they were on a 35 seater coach with about two empty seats. So it is definitely not that bad.... don't believe everything yuh read. There are also people who made theiir own way down, as I was planning to do from Wolverhampton.
what funnya bout that ???
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LP, they just pulling my leg ;D ;D
plus SuperOli driving there
and I am sure that others would drive
they are just having fun
I going and say 50 trinis there
2- 1 now
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2-0 R.Wallace
Go trini's we want a goal
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2-1 Wolves just score
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game have rel action.
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10 more mins
Sunderland 2 Wolevs 1
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birmingham losing 1 nil
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birmingham losing 1 nil
sweet
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carlos playing like a feckin hero warrior :D :beermug:
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last minute of normal time :-X
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4 min extra time. sunderland just miss a goal
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all done 2-1 final
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sunderland win :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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YES!!
Carlos had a quiet game...buh great result! esp if Birmingham lose 2day
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Sweeeetttt
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whats the standings at this momment??
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I come on late but scores looking nice nice:
Sunderland win
Birmingham Lose
Preston lose
West Brom lose
Southampton win
and Scotty score ah BRACE
...and Dog and all score in a winning result
WELL DONE WARRIORS :applause: :applause:
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YES!!
Carlos had a quiet game...buh great result! esp if Birmingham lose 2day
check de table
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/tables/cc_champ.html
nice to be is second
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BIRMINGHAM LOSE!!! :beermug: :beermug:.......that puts Sunderland on second place...but Birmingham still have an extra game in hand West Coast
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Come on Sunderland :wavetowel: :wavetowel:...2nd place
GP P
1 Derby 41 77
2 Sunderland 41 76
2 Birmingham 40 74
Remaining Games:
Sunderland
Southampton(7) v Sunderland, 17:15
Sunderland v QPR(20), 15:00
Colchester(9) v Sunderland, 15:00
Sunderland v Burnley(18), 19:45
Luton(24) v Sunderland, 13:00
Birmingham
Barnsley(21) v Birmingham, 15:00
Birmingham v Southampton(7), 15:00
Leicester(17) v Birmingham, 19:45
Wolverhampton(6) v Birmingham, 12:00
Birmingham v Sheff Wed(11), 15:00
Preston(4) v Birmingham, 13:00
Derby
Derby v Coventry(15), 15:00
Ipswich(16) v Derby, 15:00
Derby v Luton(24), 19:45
Crystal Palace(12) v Derby, 13:30
Derby v Leeds(22), 13:00
Derby schedule lookin easier than all 3, and Birmingham have 1 game in hand, but hopefully Sunderland's form can take them through...this is going down to the wire.....
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hip hip f&%king hooray (http://www.dinamomania.net/forums/style_emoticons/Custom/drinks_wine.gif) lol :devil: :devil: (http://www.dinamomania.net/forums/style_emoticons/Custom/drink.gif) birmingham loss :beermug:(http://www.dinamomania.net/forums/style_emoticons/Custom/nana2.gif)
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BIRMINGHAM LOSE!!! :beermug: :beermug:.......that puts Sunderland on second place...but Birmingham still have an extra game in hand West Coast
Dais ok, Man, birmingham go loose dat one also :beermug: :beermug:
ah puttin Goat Mout on dem now ;D ;D
and Kenwyne in 6th
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...jus remember dah Birmingham have an extra game to play..that could put them on top Sunderland if they win it
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Now al we need is de pciturs of the trini supportters
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YES!!
Carlos had a quiet game...buh great result! esp if Birmingham lose 2day
Quiet? I don't think so, not from the commentary I was hearing
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With Bermingham's loss, Sunderland is 2nd on the table, 1 point behind Derby. Go Sunderland!!
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This has to be an absolutely stunning/exciting/crucial/boring (who knows) match.... two in-form sides.... can't wait for Monday.
Sunderland for automatic promotion
Southampton via play offs
hmn.
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ah Touches match report woulda be jus d right touch all now so
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what would happen if Kenwynne ;) and he team beat Sunderland :devil:
dat would put them in 4th place sweet
sorry Sunlun Boys, just a question
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Southampton confidence will be up since there 6-0 hammering of Wolves and then there victory today against Luton so they will be coming hard but Sunderland have been playing well and the team is a cohesive unit they really gel well together and they will have extra fight in my eyes than Southampton, even though Southampton looking at the playoffs. Sunderland taste blood because they are within one point of leaders Derby. I want Sunderland win and win the rest of their games I want Southampton to lose to Sunderland but to will there rest of games. If Southampton make it to the playoffs and get promoted then great if not and Sunderland gets promoted then Yorke go talk to Keane for them to purchase Jones now that will be nice would'nt it?
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I'll be the Saints game...........hopefully a match report of some kind to follow..... :beermug: allowing.
Haway the Lads.
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Hopefully all our Trini players have a good game in this contest...I wah Kenwyne score..becuase since comin off dat injury he has not played in his normal skin..so a goal would restore some of that old confidence
Kenwyne has not been even making the squad since his injury. May still be injured or just struggling to get back into a team that is back in form. Anyone know if Kenwyne is fully fit yet? Top scorer Rasiak has also been relegated to the bench more often than not for SH. Saganowski is the man on fire for them. He can't stop scoring. Based on SH last few team lists, not sure if Kenwyne will even be in the team for this one.
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Ok Folks...Please post all information regarding this game in this Thread.
TV Viewing:
Mon Apr 09 09:00AM Pacific
Mon Apr 09 10:00AM Mountain
Mon Apr 09 11:00AM Central
Mon Apr 09 12:00PM Eastern
Length: 2 hr 30 min LIVE
Setanta Sports USA
English Football League "Championship"
Southampton vs Sunderland
Southampton v Sunderland (Home 13/8, draw 11/5, away 11/8)
Gareth Bale, Leon Best and Darren Powell picked up knocks against Luton on Saturday and will have to pass fitness tests to figure against in-form Sunderland. Djamel Belmadi returned from injury against Luton and could be in line for a start, but Kenwyne Jones is still missing with an ankle problem. Goalkeeper Kelvin Davis is available after a three-match ban but George Burley may keep faith with Bartosz Bialkowski.
Danny Simpson is struggling with a minor niggle and Roy Keane may opt to rest him in favour of Grant Leadbitter. Dwight Yorke missed the win over Wolves with a calf strain and will be given a late fitness test.
Can anyone post a stream 2moro?
E-man...anyone?
please please please
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Commentary will be here:
http://matchlive.safc.premiumtv.co.uk/mlex/258741/matches/08192006/2686176/match_console.html?clubid=10281here
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http://asiaplatetv.com/aptv_today.htm
there are 4 available streams
but since its on Setanta.. last time e-man presented a direct stream for the PNE vs Southampton game
can you please do this again?
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Ok Folks...Please post all information regarding this game in this Thread.
TV Viewing:
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Can anyone post a stream 2moro?
E-man...anyone?
please please please
Its listed on TVLizer (http://www.tvlizer.com/free-tv/)...
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Its listed on TVLizer (http://www.tvlizer.com/free-tv/)...
JW, is that a Sopcast transmission?
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Anyone know if Kenwyne is fully fit yet?
Nah. He still out with the injury.
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i go be satisfied with an audio link...anyone?
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Video Link
http://www.live-footy.org/mon9.4/Southampton_Sunderland.html
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E-man give us a direct stream please!
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birmingham just lost to barnsley.
time for trinderland to take care of business to lock up automatic promotion.
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LOCAL TRINIS
GAME SHOWING IN TROTTERS
ME AND BIG GOING NOW
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check the usual place on RTG, Thanks Mackem Angels
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=216476
this is the most popular audio link
Crabbers & Rowell - click here (http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550).
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Video Link
http://www.live-footy.org/mon9.4/Southampton_Sunderland.html
Also here:
http://myp2p.eu/Matches/Match4.htm
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derby draw with conventry ;D result 1:1
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Real man jump off Kenwyne bandwagon, boy.
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derby draw with conventry ;D result 1:1
you in way better spirits today man ;) ;D
Real man jump off Kenwyne bandwagon, boy.
he is injured, but wish he would be playing
I actually want Southhampton to win :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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Video Link
http://www.live-footy.org/mon9.4/Southampton_Sunderland.html
all i have with this is ome japanese writing and shinging shades ???
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Real man jump off Kenwyne bandwagon, boy.
he is injured, but wish he would be playing
I actually want Southhampton to win :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Is Southampton I backing today. Kenwyne team need it more.
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Edwards and Yorke starting.
Jones and John not in the squad.
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according to the bbc lineup, stern not selected >:(
Nobody ent jump off Kenwyne bandwagon, but with him being injured so much these days, is much better for TNT football as a whole if sunderland get promoted and if southampton get promoted. In any case, with saganowski mashing up the place, right now kenwyne spot not assured; best they leave him free for keane to buy him when the go up ;D
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sopcast mk soccer channel 6106
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derby draw with conventry ;D result 1:1
you in way better spirits today man ;) ;D
dont start nah lol :D save it for tomorow :devil: lol :)
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Edwards and Yorke starting.
Jones and John not in the squad.
I just started to listenin to de audio feed...is stern not in de squad or not in the team?
if he on de bench i not worried...dat mean he scoring for sure ;D
if he not in de squad i concerned......is he injured?
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dont start nah lol :D save it for tomorow :devil: lol :)
Why? :angel: :angel:
whats happening tomorrow? :devil: :devil:
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Birmingham down 1-0 ;D
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Birmingham down 1-0 ;D
whey u been man? match done
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is much better for TNT football as a whole if sunderland get promoted and if southampton get promoted.
Exactly. Sunderland done in automatic position win lose or draw today. Southampton need to win today to get into playoff position.
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Birmingham down 1-0 ;D
whey u been man? match done
hard luck i slow..i read the bbc report quickly...i thought the game was still going on ;D
wow, sunderland could be on top of the table if they win today.....
edit: i just realize that stokes, murphy, and whitehead on the bench....no wonder stern didn't make the squad......
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dont start nah lol :D save it for tomorow :devil: lol :)
Why? :angel: :angel:
whats happening tomorrow? :devil: :devil:
Hehehe lol forget i even metioned anything lol, since u suddenly lose your memory lol ;D
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is much better for TNT football as a whole if sunderland get promoted and if southampton get promoted.
Exactly. Sunderland done in automatic position win lose or draw today. Southampton need to win today to get into playoff position.
I just realise i write the opposite of what i wanted to say. :-[
I don't know if men realise that birmingham have one match more to play, so that automatic spot not sewed up for sunderland until they on the top of the table. As it stands, there are no guarantees. A lot could happen in 5 matches.
And just as a matter of personal preference, i remeber how the southampton fans used to be badtalking kenwyne. If I had to choose is Sunderland all d way...
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Hehehe lol forget i even metioned anything lol, since u suddenly lose your memory lol ;D
ah have a funny feeling that my memory will be dependant on the final score :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
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HALF TIME
YORKE HAD THE BEST CHANCE OF THE GAME...HIT THE POST
YELLOW CARD- YORKE
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is much better for TNT football as a whole if sunderland get promoted and if southampton get promoted.
Exactly. Sunderland done in automatic position win lose or draw today. Southampton need to win today to get into playoff position.
I just realise i write the opposite of what i wanted to say. :-[
I don't know if men realise that birmingham have one match more to play, so that automatic spot not sewed up for sunderland until they on the top of the table. As it stands, there are no guarantees. A lot could happen in 5 matches.
And just as a matter of personal preference, i remeber how the southampton fans used to be badtalking kenwyne. If I had to choose is Sunderland all d way...
I remember how the Sunderland fans used to be badtalking Dwight.
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bIRMINGHAM LOSS
dERBY dRAW
IF SUNDERLAND WIN 2DAY, THEY ON TOP OF THE TABLE :beermug:
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is much better for TNT football as a whole if sunderland get promoted and if southampton get promoted.
Exactly. Sunderland done in automatic position win lose or draw today. Southampton need to win today to get into playoff position.
I just realise i write the opposite of what i wanted to say. :-[
I don't know if men realise that birmingham have one match more to play, so that automatic spot not sewed up for sunderland until they on the top of the table. As it stands, there are no guarantees. A lot could happen in 5 matches.
And just as a matter of personal preference, i remeber how the southampton fans used to be badtalking kenwyne. If I had to choose is Sunderland all d way...
I remember how the Sunderland fans used to be badtalking Dwight.
Maybe, but they were saying that he didn't have the legs to play at that level, when he was obviously tired after the world cup. On the other hand they never put in question his footballing brain nor his talent.
The Southampton people were just saying that Kenwyne was a crap striker, period...
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SECOND HALF START...
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It have people here is bad talk Stern so what.
Sunderland is a better team than Southampton...deeper squad and in ripping form.
I rather they get an automatic and we sure of players in the EPL. They have a better chance of surviving in the EPL.
Besides....Southampton losing go make them appreciate Kenwyne :devil:
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Besides....Southampton losing go make them appreciate Kenwyne :devil:
ya right ;D
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even if sunderland geh promoted..u hadda take into account de amount of money keane goin to use to buy good players that can potentially replace stern,yorke......or even edwards...
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It have people here is bad talk Stern so what.
Sunderland is a better team than Southampton...deeper squad and in ripping form.
I rather they get an automatic and we sure of players in the EPL. They have a better chance of surviving in the EPL.
Besides....Southampton losing go make them appreciate Kenwyne :devil:
Dey already appreciate Kenwyne. I does be reading on dem messages boards. They admit dey was wrong and now rate Kenwyne very highly.
As for Sunderland, the only one of we players sure to be there in the EPL is Carlos.
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southampton score..i gone dey >:(
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Edwards with a cracker!!!
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Goal Edwards GOOOOAAALLLL
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Carlosssss!!!!
Goalazzo!
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Sound like it was a rocket he leggoo...geh on Carlos!!!!
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nice ;D
Big Up!
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de man buss de net!!!
Get on Carlos!!!
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lawd i was real sweating dey....Big up Carlos!
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was a great goal to notch
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ok then Carlos
go for the brace ;)
my sopcast sticking
I missed the Goal
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just got online...what's the score and how many minutes left?
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just got online...what's the score and how many minutes left?
1-1
85 min
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This side in rippin form wtf!
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thanks dey...I in de middle of class so I have to keep de volume on low
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another GOAL fro sunderland!!!!
Dem annoucers going Crazy for Sunderland...ah swear de man ketch it yes!!! :rotfl:
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thanks dey...I in de middle of class so I have to keep de volume on low
I go use sign language den ;D ;D
SUNDERLAND :o :o :o :o :o :o
2 - 1
and Southampton won 6 - 0 the other day ;)
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goal for sunderland again. another cracker
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GOALLLLLLL LEADBITTER
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Keano looking like a magician
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Dat language sounds good to me...2 tuh 1
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oohhh gaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddd the commentator bawl carlos edwards sen him the wrong way an all yes hahahahahhaa
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The NE Juggernaut keeps steaming along :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Keeeeeaaaaanooooooooo :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
37 games of MAGIC
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Ah sorry for Southampton, they two points below a playoff spot now.
4 games to go.
Look like they could get some pts off these games though.
I would love them to take some pts off Birmingham too.
Saturday 14th April 2007
Birmingham v Southampton
Saturday 21st April 2007
Southampton v Leeds Utd
Saturday 28th April 2007
Norwich v Southampton
Sunday 06th May 2007
Southampton v Southend
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Lawd. Dais it for Kenwyne. Hard luck. Ah could put back on mih Sunderland hat now, though.
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Another win...and we untop of de table
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dammm edwarsd score a beautyy thanks for the lvideo link fellas highly appreciated :beermug:
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Lawd. Dais it for Kenwyne. Hard luck. Ah could put back on mih Sunderland hat now, though.
nah man, alyuh din't understand d thing. D idea was for sunderland to win this game to force southampton to beat birmingham next week ;D
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Great game sunderland 2-1 :beermug: :beermug:
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Lawd. Dais it for Kenwyne. Hard luck. Ah could put back on mih Sunderland hat now, though.
Doh feel no way. I don't think he go stay in that league. Somebody go pull him if not Kean. I hope somebody else though. We don't want the entire national team playing for one club.
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(http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3798/tablezd4.png)
what else can I say :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
thanks Again Mackem Angels ;)
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southampton score..i gone dey >:(
Oh yee of little faith ::)
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Congrats to Carlos and Sunderland..wow is dat 16 games now without ah loss :o Doh worry southampton still have ah chance for the playoffs..
Who say automatic for Sunderland? ;D :wavetowel:
Big Up!
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:drool: :drool: :drool: :cheers: :cheers: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :applause: :applause: :applause: :chilling: :challenge: :salute: :salute: :salute: :whip: :whip: :whip: edwards!!
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What is the mathematical probability of automatic promotion for Sunderland? How many wins or how many losses by the other teams will assure them of that berth?
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Real good day for Sunderland..... even though Birmingham have a game in hand... dey 4 pts behind....... dem bois going up for sure...... don't stop me now, we're having such a good time, we're just having a ball..... :violin: :violin:
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After staying home from work and watching the two Premiership games earlier on Setanta, this was by far the most entertaining game... Edwards scored a beauty....
Having seen a few Championship games Sunderland are definately a class above the other teams... Southampton played well, but boy Sunderland just cannot lose...
Way to go !!!!!
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What is the mathematical probability of automatic promotion for Sunderland? How many wins or how many losses by the other teams will assure them of that berth?
1/4
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f**k Southampton
Well done Sunderland... me and big mag went Trotters ... only a handful of ppl watched the game.. Sunderland played really well.. Stern should have played because it was that kind of game he would have scored in ...
Dwight did ok.. he struggled to cope with the pace of the game.. He had a great chance with the header but it missed..
Carlos was brilliant from the 60th onwards before he was holding his own but his crosses were terrible but the Goal was beautiful! He got the ball on the right then he cut and it was on his left he travelled forward with it and released a beauty which hit off the underside of the bar...
Then the other goal was a great shot also
Full time celebration was nice too.. The Setanta Commentator was praising Edwards right tru
They were calling him Excellent Edwards... so it was like "Yorke passes the ball to Miller who finds Excellent Edwards" lol
Well done again and I hope they get promoted
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Is shocking how far Leeds drop eh.
From premiership in 2004 to League 2 in 2007?
They still have time, but damn...
( i was kinda hoping setanta forget and leave the feed on for cricket..., oh well)
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What is the mathematical probability of automatic promotion for Sunderland? How many wins or how many losses by the other teams will assure them of that berth?
No mathematical probality needed for them in that department..dey already dey...is for dem to lose now..all they have to do is keep winning and we seeing dem in the EPL next year :beermug:
Big Up!
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Remaining Fixtures
Saturday, 14 April 2007
The Coca-Cola Football League Championship
Sunderland v QPR, 15:00
Saturday, 21 April 2007
The Coca-Cola Football League Championship
Colchester v Sunderland, 15:00
Friday, 27 April 2007
The Coca-Cola Football League Championship
Sunderland v Burnley, 19:45
Sunday, 06 May 2007
The Coca-Cola Football League Championship
Luton v Sunderland, 13:00
If they win the next 2 games.. A win against Burnley might clinch an Automatic promotion :beermug:
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Remaining B'Ham fixtures
Saturday, 14 April 2007
The Coca-Cola Football League Championship
Birmingham v Southampton, 15:00
Tuesday, 17 April 2007
The Coca-Cola Football League Championship
Leicester v Birmingham, 19:45
Sunday, 22 April 2007
The Coca-Cola Football League Championship
Wolverhampton v Birmingham, 12:00
Saturday, 28 April 2007
The Coca-Cola Football League Championship
Birmingham v Sheff Wed, 15:00
Sunday, 06 May 2007
The Coca-Cola Football League Championship
Preston v Birmingham, 13:00
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Well done Carlos and congratulations Sunderland. Dey dig deep for that win, real character. The SKY tv commentar just full of praise for Carlos yes .Is jes compliment after compliment. Her said he recommend Carlos to Premiership clubs during the January transfer window but dey didn't take him on. "Carlos is obviously a quality player and excelled in the World Cup" he say. Carlos get Man of the Match too. Big up Carlos...onto the Premiership Sunderland!! :) ;D
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tried real hard to catch this game but couldn't make it.
Seeing this result more than makes up for it though...well done Carlos, Leadbitter and Sunderland :applause: :applause:
I eh go lie Sunderland's results of recent does real lift up the mood
video highlights and table standings please :beermug:
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Coventry goin and get demoted with me mum. He eh playin so no side eh likely to take him an dhe on the blacklist so pressure all around.
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Coventry goin and get demoted with me mum. He eh playin so no side eh likely to take him an dhe on the blacklist so pressure all around.
Coventry looking kind of safe from demotion if you ask me. They not in a great position, but I wouldn't bet against them staying up.
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congrats carlos...well done sunderland :beermug:
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(http://bestanimations.com/Holidays/Fireworks/Fireworks-02-june.gif) :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: Well done sunderland
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http://www.dailymotion.com/samgoff/video/x1o68y_ccc-southampton-v-sunderland
Highlights :beermug:
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http://media.putfile.com/SOUTHAMPTON-1-SUNDERLAND-2
enjoy
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start ordering them 2007-08 sunderland replicas one time!!
ah love it!!
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start ordering them 2007-08 sunderland replicas one time!!
ah love it!!
i 2nd dat :beermug:
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what a goal by carlos!!!!!!!! :wavetowel:
start ordering them 2007-08 sunderland replicas one time!!
ah love it!!
i 2nd dat :beermug:
cant agree more :chilling:
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Some nice plays in that game!
The man who was on Edwards do REAL shit when Edwards cut in.
Poor poor defending.
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Some nice plays in that game!
The man who was on Edwards do REAL shit when Edwards cut in.
Poor poor defending.
To be fair, Carlos has a couple of good chances on his right foot earlier on and nearly put them over the stand. Probably thought he would be no problem on his left... sweet, sweet goal.
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Well done Sunderland and a special big up to Carlos :beermug:
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(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/apr_07/safc_1176149267_saints3.jpg)
(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/apr_07/safc_1176149240_saints2.jpg)
(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/apr_07/safc_1176149301_saints5.jpg)
(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/apr_07/safc_1176152918_saints6.jpg)
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(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/apr_07/safc_1176149267_saints3.jpg)
(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/apr_07/safc_1176149240_saints2.jpg)
(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/apr_07/safc_1176149301_saints5.jpg)
(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/apr_07/safc_1176152918_saints6.jpg)
nice pic,they hard
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To be fair, Carlos has a couple of good chances on his right foot earlier on and nearly put them over the stand. Probably thought he would be no problem on his left... sweet, sweet goal.
well said JW...yuh know yuh football......
that was not really poor defending....but good decision making and timing by carlos....saw the game live at trotters...
will make some opinions soon...after all the experts
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That is a fantastic result. Congrats Carlos, congrats Leadbitter! A good weekend for Sunderland.
Thanks for the clips.
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both goals were nice but Carlos was sweeter...look like he was off balance when he strike it too
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I wonder if any of them Trini make it down for this match.
Ah bet they wish they did now!
Tomorrow they promise up pics to prove they really went the game against Wolves :devil:
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:applause:......well done sunderland well done.... :applause:
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'LeadFoot" was tryin to score dah goal since Saturday....Edwards over the last few years have been consistently improving, in spite of injuries,-and critics - ah think his head for the game is the aspect that has developed most, and probably due to the injuries and maturity (and ah wonder if ah personal coach too - maybe Yprke), and now he on the path to achieving his highest heights...well done Sir....i anxiously await to see your best ...good luck, and good health...you, yuh family , club and country ! :notworthy:
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boy de other day I hearin man comparing Carlos to Penant and ah sayin whe boy, because penant is a big player but trust meh... after dat dispaly i see carlos put on last night ah will now have to agree with de man dat did say that carlos is more skillful because even when carlos was playing"bad" he was looking good. Wow, Carlos has really turned into a big player sah. Not just saying he good because he is a TnT man but de man doh have no fear of no defender. My boy just runnin at yuh defence like is food. ah lookin for Carlos to get de TnT player of de year award this year.
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briliant Carlos. we go miss you not lining up for tnt
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http://www.sunderlandecho.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleID=2691696&SectionID=1107
Brick Attack on Fans
View GalleryBy John Corney
Football fans had a lucky escape when yobs bricked their coaches, putting one out of action.
But Black Cats' fans got to travel back to Wearside in luxury when the team's £300,000 bus was turned around to bring them home.
The coaches came under attack as Sunderland fans travelled back home in buoyant mood after watching their heroes come from a goal down to beat promotion rivals Southampton 2-1 and top the Championship table for the first time this season.
Fortunately no one was hurt in the ambush, which happened about a mile outside St Mary's Stadium at about 8pm yesterday.
Turn to Page 5
Fan Chris Hackworth, 24, of Wheatley Hill said: "We could see what was going to happen. There was a gang of kids standing on the roadside who just started throwing missiles at the convoy of coaches. They smashed windows on two of the buses then ran off.
"People were understandably annoyed at the situation, but didn't react. Once again we're just grateful the club helped out getting us home from a long journey again," added the technician at Peterlee College.
Police ordered that one of the buses, run by fanzine A Love Supreme (ALS), was not able to travel when the windows were smashed out, causing £1,000-worth of damage, and fans faced the prospect of waiting hours until a new coach was commandeered to bring them home.
But County Durham-based Classic Coaches heard about the attack and got about 30 supporters home on the team bus, which the players didn't need because they were flying back to the North East last night.
Classic Coaches operations director Mike Harris said: "The players' bus was coming back empty, when we heard what happened we turned it around to help fans get home so 32 lucky ones travelled the 300 miles back home in luxury."
Martin McFadden, editor of ALS said: "We're all grateful no-one was hurt and this is a magnificent gesture by Classic Coaches and the club to make sure people get home."
Fan Paul Dobson, better known as Sobs from ALS, was on a bus operated by the Durham branch of the supporters' association that was also bricked in last night's attack.
He said Black Cats' fans were impeccably behaved, despite being goaded by yobs to retaliate.
"People sitting next to the windows got a terrible shock, but everyone was in such high spirits after the win we're just happy no-one was hurt."
Hampshire Police are investigating the attack.
• Were you one of the fans brought home on the players' coach? Call the newsdesk, tel 501 7208 or email: echo.news@northeast-press.co.uk.
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briliant Carlos. we go miss you not lining up for tnt
Ah doh think Carlos is part of the lawsuit crew.... I thought he was not being selected because he had recently joined a new club that is trying to make a push for promotion to the EPL. I have a feeling he will be selected for the Gold Cup....
Then again.....if Carlos get selected, but fellas like Sancho and Colin Samuel don't....then it will be a sure sign that there is a blacklist....so maybe yuh right. Maybe all the foreign based will continue to get blanked so as to make it look like Wim just selecting local and not that certain men getting the cold shoulder.....
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Yeh filho, I hopin that doesn't happen.
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I will be putting the champagne on ice :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Haway the lads
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Well we all hope this happens
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hopin for the best but if scotland goes to birmingham :-\
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Yorke and Edwards starting and Stern on de bench. Go sunderland!
Audio link: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=218268
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Goooaal 1-0 Sunder
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1-0 Sunderland. Dean Whitehead scored in the 7th min.
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Yorke play hard ;D
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Penalty 1-1 now
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come on Sunderland
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1-1 ht
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2-1 Sunderland :beermug: :beermug:
10 mins to go
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Comon Trinis.... we want a goal..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Sunderland win 2-1. Other results....of importance (promotion)...
B'ham win
Derby Lose...
Sunderland 43 played: 82 points (3 games remaining)
Derby 43 played: 78 points (3 games remaining)
B'ham 42 played: 77 points (4 games remaining)
Points in the next 2 games could secure promotion. Essentially if Derby lose and Sunderland win their next games promotion is assured.
Lata and enjoy de day
Richard G.
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wheyyyy promotion here we come :beermug:
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wheyyyy promotion here we come :beermug:
chinne lol@yuh name yuh smokin to ealry in d emonirng
it looking like i write yuh anme for yuh :P
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3 trinis in de prem jus like da boy.... wey sah
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3 Trinis in the Prem?
By the time Sunderland spends their miilion's of pounds, IF and
when they are promoted, Stern WILL NOT be on the team, and
Dwight 'might' be there as an assistant to Keane. If Dwight is still
there, his apprearnces will be 'cameo' only.
Edwards would have rightfully made the Premiership, which is long
overdue.
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http://media.putfile.com/SUNDERLAND-2-QPR-1
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3 Trinis in the Prem?
By the time Sunderland spends their miilion's of pounds, IF and
when they are promoted, Stern WILL NOT be on the team, and
Dwight 'might' be there as an assistant to Keane. If Dwight is still
there, his apprearnces will be 'cameo' only.
Edwards would have rightfully made the Premiership, which is long
overdue.
Have to agree with you... said the same thing on another thread, and got torn a new one, but that's cyber-life, eh?
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thanks whistler :beermug:
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3 Trinis in the Prem?
By the time Sunderland spends their miilion's of pounds, IF and
when they are promoted, Stern WILL NOT be on the team, and
Dwight 'might' be there as an assistant to Keane. If Dwight is still
there, his apprearnces will be 'cameo' only.
Edwards would have rightfully made the Premiership, which is long
overdue.
I surprise it have people eh realize dis yet.
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3 Trinis in the Prem?
By the time Sunderland spends their miilion's of pounds, IF and
when they are promoted, Stern WILL NOT be on the team, and
Dwight 'might' be there as an assistant to Keane. If Dwight is still
there, his apprearnces will be 'cameo' only.
Edwards would have rightfully made the Premiership, which is long
overdue.
I surprise it have people eh realize dis yet.
Nah, watch out for yorkie sadis....he might make a year !
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Thanks for the highlights man....
look some pics from the safc.com
http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=12189&t=5&cp=12
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is 3 in d prem allyuh n work out brej maths
southampton going up..... biringham buying scotland and them going up too along with sunderland ;D :D ::)
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Go Sunlun!
The Coca-Cola Football League Championship Table
14 April 2007
P GD PTS
1 Sunderland 43 25 82
2 Derby 43 15 78
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3 Birmingham 42 22 77
4 Preston 43 13 71
5 West Brom 43 19 70
6 Wolverhampton 43 -1 70
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7 Stoke 43 19 68
8 Southampton 43 19 66
9 Colchester 43 16 66
10 Sheff Wed 43 4 65
11 Cardiff 43 8 64
12 Crystal Palace 43 6 59
13 Plymouth 43 -3 58
14 Ipswich 43 3 57
15 Norwich 42 -10 56
16 Coventry 43 -14 53
17 Burnley 42 1 51
18 QPR 43 -13 49
19 Leicester 42 -13 47
20 Barnsley 43 -26 47
21 Hull 43 -16 45
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22 Leeds 43 -23 45
23 Southend 43 -27 42
24 Luton 43 -24 37
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all de c#nts/cacholes here who think stern not in the team if they get promoted ....put all yuh money where yuh cacahole is...now....nowww..
i say stern stays with sunderland......talk to me...
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all de c#nts/cacholes here who think stern not in the team if they get promoted ....put all yuh money where yuh cacahole is...now....nowww..
i say stern stays with sunderland......talk to me...
BM yu like cuss bad wud for no reason man ..cool dung a lil bit nuh.. I sure dem fellas aint saying dat stern doesnt belong there, but yu know how our players does get de shaft jes so ... Stern is de Boss but This is football dread and we might be lucky to have 1 player in de premier . Yu think England ready for we to have 3 players in de Premier ?
cool dung nuh and stop de bad wud it have lil children does pass thru here ...
war.....
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all de c#nts/cacholes here who think stern not in the team if they get promoted ....put all yuh money where yuh cacahole is...now....nowww..
i say stern stays with sunderland......talk to me...
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:. Another one of your post dat ah totally agree with. Ah will get obscene like you and say, ah doh know what de f**k some people here really thinking nah, oh Stern will not be on the team. All yuh do all yuh research nah, dis is ah man does respond very well tuh pressure, what make all yuh feel, he wouldn't bounce back tuh form and starting eleven or get extended minutes from de bench. Fuh de people dat never kick ah lime or tennis ball in dey life, or doh have any knowledge of de game, let meh tel all yuh dis, Sunderland may spend big money and buy ah big name forward, but if dat player is not doing his job by scoring goals, he will warm de bench like any other player. So at de end of de day is who in form and scoring de goals fuh Sunderland will get de time on de field, so is all up tuh Stern tuh get his minutes. Is very few players dat does be out of form, and dey does still be on de pitch. Rooney is an example, we al know he is ah real, real special player and apart from scoring goals, he does so many other things tuh help his team, like defending, setting up goals, etc. Ah went ah lil far wid dis post, so some ah all yuh cud do some soul searching. These same people, if Stern score 2 goals this week dey go switch up and start tuh big him. Ah next thing, oh Yorke go be ah assistant, we all hear de man say he would love tuh finish playing in de EPL, so when dat time come, ah guess he go turn assistant just so right? steupssssssss, some people like dey just trying tuh build up dey post by posting ah bunch ah s**t, ah know is ah forum and we all free tuh have we opinion, I'm also free tuh say when all yuh talking pure f****y. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Go Miami Heat.
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all de c#nts/cacholes here who think stern not in the team if they get promoted ....put all yuh money where yuh cacahole is...now....nowww..
i say stern stays with sunderland......talk to me...
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:. Another one of your post dat ah totally agree with. Ah will get obscene like you and say, ah doh know what de f**k some people here really thinking nah, oh Stern will not be on the team. All yuh do all yuh research nah, dis is ah man does respond very well tuh pressure, what make all yuh feel, he wouldn't bounce back tuh form and start or get extended minutes from de bench. These same people, if Stern score 2 goals this week dey go switch up and start tuh big him. Ah next thing, oh Yorke go be ah assistant, we all hear de man say he would love tuh finish playing in de playing, yet still some people talking s**t. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Go Miami Heat.
Supa you know I disagree on the Yorke issue but I think that even though Stern will be on the squad it is unlikely that he will be first choice, especially since he isn't first choice right now. You talk about research but the history shows that the last tine Stern and Yorke were in the Premiership they were not first choice and they were not performing.
Your argument seems to be that once Stern and Yorke decide to "flip a switch" and decide to end their career at the top it is a fait accompli. This is naieve and ignores the fact that there are many other players as talented as those two and several more who are more talented, are in-form and who will have the same intent WHEN Sunderland makes purchases.
So what makes Stern and Yorke guaranteed to succeed against all odds?. It have soemthing special they drinking now that nobody else have and that they wasn't drinking before?
I wonder if you still under the illusion that Sunderland is a small outfit that not good enough for our players and that the club should just be happy to have them.
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all de c#nts/cacholes here who think stern not in the team if they get promoted ....put all yuh money where yuh cacahole is...now....nowww..
i say stern stays with sunderland......talk to me...
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:. Another one of your post dat ah totally agree with. Ah will get obscene like you and say, ah doh know what de f**k some people here really thinking nah, oh Stern will not be on the team. All yuh do all yuh research nah, dis is ah man does respond very well tuh pressure, what make all yuh feel, he wouldn't bounce back tuh form and start or get extended minutes from de bench. These same people, if Stern score 2 goals this week dey go switch up and start tuh big him. Ah next thing, oh Yorke go be ah assistant, we all hear de man say he would love tuh finish playing in de playing, yet still some people talking s**t. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Go Miami Heat.
Supa you know I disagree on the Yorke issue but I think that even though Stern will be on the squad it is unlikely that he will be first choice, especially since he isn't first choice right now. You talk about research but the history shows that the last tine Stern and Yorke were in the Premiership they were not first choice and they were not performing.
Your argument seems to be that once Stern and Yorke decide to "flip a switch" and decide to end their career at the top it is a fait accompli. This is naieve and ignores the fact that there are many other players as talented as those two and several more who are more talented, are in-form and who will have the same intent WHEN Sunderland makes purchases.
So what makes Stern and Yorke guaranteed to succeed against all odds?. It have soemthing special they drinking now that nobody else have and that they wasn't drinking before?
I wonder if you still under the illusion that Sunderland is a small outfit that not good enough for our players and that the club should just be happy to have them.
JDB, ah admire dat about yuh, yuh is ah real man, cuz every time we bounce up on ah thread, wid dis subject about Yorke or even Stern yuh does stick tuh yuh guns, say de same thing all de tiime. Yuh doh switch up like some members here does do, cuz dey either doh have ah clue of what is going on or dey just want tuh ride wid de majority. Ah respect yuh fuh dat :beermug:. Any way let meh start by saying you have very valid points on both players, but tuh answer all yuh questions in ah nut shell, de simple reason I believe dat Yorke is going to do well , is cuz ah definetly have confidence in him and apart from de lil ruff times (sister died - RIP) de breddah went through at Birmingham and ah believe Blackburn also, his record since arriving in England, dey speak for itself. Like I said in my previous post, a player will always get his minutes, whether it is at the starting eleven or some solid time off de bench, so long as he is in form and taking care of business on de pitch. So dat what I just said is a no brainier right there, simple, do your job de right way and yuh go play. Yorke, Stern and even Carlos, so long as dey stay in form and handle their business on de pitch, they will definitely get their minutes. As far as I'm concern, their playing time and future is in their hands, not in some big name players Sunderland may buy.
Remember, Keane have a job to do, and he will want to keep his job, so obviously he will always put de players dat are in form, so dat he get de right result at de end of each game. So if Stern, Yorke and Carlos in form dey will all get good playing time. All of dem might not start, but week in week out, we will see dem dem playing. Just fuh de records, ah not going to lie tuh yuh, ah not expecting Stern tuh be first choice, dat is not my argument, but if he end up being first choice some where along de season, cuz of his form, ah will be extremely happy for him. My argument is dat he will be getting at least solid minutes, when I say solid, I mean off de bench in de 55, 60, 65th minute, or even de 70th minute is alright by me. Or if he start, he may come off at those said times in de games, ah will be happy wid dat. I'm more expecting Carlos tuh start, again he have to stay in form tuh keep dat starting spot and Yorke will start a lot of games, same story, he has to be in form and due to his age, he have to rest for some games along de season, to save his legs. Doh worry, we only have ah few months tuh go before de EPL start back, ah believe it start in August, and we will all see who will flop (if anybody) and who will hold it down. Ah hope when Yorke start tuh hold down dat position from August, and control de area like Makalele, yuh cud say Supa yuh was right boi, ah doh know wey de hell Yorke drinking at dat age nah, but de man really holding down he postion and playing good ball in de EPL ;). HIGHLY BLESSED
Go Miami Heat.
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i really getting old yes (44), so wha go happen if at the end ah the season Dwight decide to hang up he boots, or Sunderland management/coach decide that to compete in the Premiership dey want to buy some young SPEEDY forward(s)???? EXACTLY!!! WE don't know what will happen!!! Yes ideally we want Dwight and Stern playing alongside Carlos in the Premiership, but oh gorm who knows what the future holds.....my penny
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From today's Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2007/04/16/sfnsmi16.xml):
For a start, he'll need more pace and cutting edge in the final third, with at least one striker of genuine stature on the wanted list. In David Connolly and Stern John, he has a couple of forwards who have tried and failed in the top flight.
The skilful Daryl Murphy boasts promise and young Anthony Stokes has potential, but that on its own isn't going to suffice at a club where wealthy benefactors demand the very best. Consequently, additions will surely come to give the canny Keane a tableau to work from.
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JDB, ah admire dat about yuh, yuh is ah real man, cuz every time we bounce up on ah thread, wid dis subject about Yorke or even Stern yuh does stick tuh yuh guns, say de same thing all de tiime. Yuh doh switch up like some members here does do, cuz dey either doh have ah clue of what is going on or dey just want tuh ride wid de majority. Ah respect yuh fuh dat :beermug:. Any way let meh start by saying you have very valid points on both players, but tuh answer all yuh questions in ah nut shell, de simple reason I believe dat Yorke is going to do well , is cuz ah definetly have confidence in him and apart from de lil ruff times (sister died - RIP) de breddah went through at Birmingham and ah believe Blackburn also, his record since arriving in England, dey speak for itself. Like I said in my previous post, a player will always get his minutes, whether it is at the starting eleven or some solid time off de bench, so long as he is in form and taking care of business on de pitch. So dat what I just said is a no brainier right there, simple, do your job de right way and yuh go play. Yorke, Stern and even Carlos, so long as dey stay in form and handle their business on de pitch, they will definitely get their minutes. As far as I'm concern, their playing time and future is in their hands, not in some big name players Sunderland may buy.
Remember, Keane have a job to do, and he will want to keep his job, so obviously he will always put de players dat are in form, so dat he get de right result at de end of each game. So if Stern, Yorke and Carlos in form dey will all get good playing time. All of dem might not start, but week in week out, we will see dem dem playing. Just fuh de records, ah not going to lie tuh yuh, ah not expecting Stern tuh be first choice, dat is not my argument, but if he end up being first choice some where along de season, cuz of his form, ah will be extremely happy for him. My argument is dat he will be getting at least solid minutes, when I say solid, I mean off de bench in de 55, 60, 65th minute, or even de 70th minute is alright by me. Or if he start, he may come off at those said time in de games, ah will be happy wid dat. I'm more expecting Carlos tuh start, again he have to stay in form tuh keep dat starting spot and Yorke will start a lot of games, same story, he has to be in form and due to his age, he have to rest for some games along de season, to save his legs. Doh worry, we only have ah few months tuh go before de EPL start back, ah believe it start in August, and we will all see who will flop (if anybody) and who will hold it down. Ah hope when Yorke start tuh hold down dat position from August, and control de area like Makalele, yuh cud say Supa yuh was right boi, ah doh know wey de hell Yorke drinking at dat age nah, but de man really holding down he postion and playing good ball in de EPL ;). HIGHLY BLESSED
Go Miami Heat.
Respect.
It is not my intent to cry down any of our players or place limitations on their abilities but I just see plenty of this football and I know it is difficult for Yorke at his age (and in his position) or Stern with his record to hold down a starting place in a promoted team in the premiership especially after Sunderland makes purchases.
Like you though I wish them all the best and will be backing them strong.
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Heads up! Sunderland vs Burnley is LIVE on Setanta Broadband at 2:45 pm this Friday 28th.
Hopefully E-man can gih we ah bligh...
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wah is de score
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De man sya live of Friday. Is only Tuesday!
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De man sya live of Friday. Is only Tuesday!
sorry ah so happy..lol dat manu getting cut tail i eh even watch..hahah
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wah is de score
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Big Up!
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De man sya live of Friday. Is only Tuesday!
sorry ah so happy..lol dat manu getting cut tail i eh even watch..hahah
Today is not you day Breddah! ManU win! Sorry, man.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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wah is de score
:rotfl:
Boy, you real fack-up yuh know! :rotfl: :rotfl:
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wah is de score
LAMO................. :rotfl: :rotfl:
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wah is de score
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Big Up!
Another DJ award nominee!
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fellas fellas concentrate ;)
Sunderland......We Want a WIN!!!!
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can anyone put up a link????
i will take time off from work
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How many points Sunderland need to secure the EPL now ?
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How many points Sunderland need to secure the EPL now ?
6 points to guarantee them without worrying too much about the outcome of the other 2 teams birminham and derby...but 4 could still get them there... :beermug:
Big Up!
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wah is de score
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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wah is de score
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Boi yu late again :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :devil: :devil: :devil:
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De man sya live of Friday. Is only Tuesday!
Actually todays date happens to be Wednesday....
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De man sya live of Friday. Is only Tuesday!
Actually todays date happens to be Wednesday....
boss if yuh chk de date yuh would see it was posted yesterday...... i could only shake mi head ;D ;D
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De man sya live of Friday. Is only Tuesday!
Actually todays date happens to be Wednesday....
:rotfl: :rotfl: buh Saga he replied SINCE Tuesday ;D
Big Up!
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De man sya live of Friday. Is only Tuesday!
Actually todays date happens to be Wednesday....
Geeezad, all yuh eh easy nah....
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ah fraid to laugh at saga cause men go gimem more picong :P
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ah fraid to laugh at saga cause men go gimem more picong :P
Ah just thought ah go make it ah lil more interesting ;D ;D ;D ;D
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That game done...sunderland win 2-0 allyuh miss it?
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wah is de score
how come i miss dis one boy :devil: . like yuh had a off day lol :rotfl:
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That game done...sunderland win 2-0 allyuh miss it?
nahh...ah dun celebrate dat last nite...oh goshhh wha ah goin an celebrate tomoro nite boy ? ;D
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That game done...sunderland win 2-0 allyuh miss it?
who scored?
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That game done...sunderland win 2-0 allyuh miss it?
yuh should find a psychic work boy dat game eh play yet
salt fuh Yesinia Gonzales
while yuh at it I have an interview tomorrow, tell meh if I will get the job nah
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That game done...sunderland win 2-0 allyuh miss it?
yuh should find a psychic work boy dat game eh play yet
salt fuh Yesinia Gonzales
while yuh at it I have an interview tomorrow, tell meh if I will get the job nah
pm meh i go tell u what to say:D
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That game done...sunderland win 2-0 allyuh miss it?
yuh should find a psychic work boy dat game eh play yet
salt fuh Yesinia Gonzales
while yuh at it I have an interview tomorrow, tell meh if I will get the job nah
pm meh i go tell u what to say:D
shouldn't dat be am yuh an yuh go tell him what he said ' ??? ahwrite, awwrite...ah get tie up dey :D
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today is friday,where de link.
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Wey I didn't realise all this nonsense went on lol.
Anyway, ent we have a Trini at Burnley too?
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[post the lik nah
anybody
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[post the lik nah
anybody
Super[E]man???
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eman real scarce these days
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eman real scarce these days
Looks like he will not be able to come to the rescue today, he is really busy at work and can not to do the stream. Some superheroes entitled to take ah break sometimes.
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[post the lik nah
anybody
Super[E]man???
u cyah work any margic..hmmmmmm i wonder if ti on sopcast
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eman real scarce these days
i hear eman get lock up for illegally streaming copyrighted football broadcasts. they might send him back germany.
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diz de usual audio link:
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
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sopcast eh ahve it..sorry
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http://uk.matchcast.sports.yahoo.net/yahoo/mc/en/10/f45405/
only CE starting.
Sunderland
13 D Ward
12 N Nosworthy
3 D Simpson
4 J Evans
7 C Edwards
36 L Miller
15 D Collins
8 D Whitehead
9 A Stokes
31 D Connolly
11 D Murphy
SUBS
20 S John
34 D Yorke
16 T Hysen
23 G Leadbitter
32 M Fülöp
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match start
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/fri27.4/Sunderland_Burnley.html
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Carlos just missed a one on one with the keeper...
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GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL 1-0 to Sunderland, Murphy the scorer
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GOOAAAAAAAALLLLLL Sunderland
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nice nice
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nice nice
ah tella llyuh de game finishing 2-0 steups allyuh harden
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pen to Sunderland
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SAVED!!
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de man choke the penalty...
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With Stern record in these late season Championship games, Keane shoulda start him. Bravo was scoring that.
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to be honest it was a very soft pen that the ref awarded so justice was probably done
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With Stern record in these late season Championship games, Keane shoulda start him. Bravo was scoring that.
boy since that Mexico game I cyar trust Stern with a penalty again nah
that game was too high stakes for him to go and do dat shit
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http://uk.matchcast.sports.yahoo.net/yahoo/mc/en/10/f45405/
only CE starting.
Sunderland
13 D Ward
12 N Nosworthy
3 D Simpson
4 J Evans
7 C Edwards
36 L Miller
15 D Collins
8 D Whitehead
9 A Stokes
31 D Connolly
11 D Murphy
SUBS
20 S John
34 D Yorke
16 T Hysen
23 G Leadbitter
32 M Fülöp
I swear Keane middle name is Wenger...
dat man is rotate the first 11 and the squad like its nutting.....sunderland have real depth for a championship side
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With Stern record in these late season Championship games, Keane shoulda start him. Bravo was scoring that.
the question is whether Stern has enough ranks in htat side to take a penalty. he probably was going to get the chance to take it even if he was on the field...but who knows. just a guess
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pen to Burnley...
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1-1
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steups.... come on... doh choke now...
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at least de ref is being consistent with he shyt calls :-\
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Shit..... 1-1 now
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match start
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/fri27.4/Sunderland_Burnley.html
thxs Jay
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yw :)
HT 1-1
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yw :)
HT 1-1
De Gaffer go buss somebody head in de lockerroom today, dem men miss some good chances and Sunderland should have been ahead by 2 clear goals at the half
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BRING ON YORKE
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BRING ON YORKE
And Stern ;D ;D ;D we need de Trini Connection
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second half start 47 mins played
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2-1 to Burnley, screamer of a goal...
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ohhhhhhh shitttttttt damn dat was a goal
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Penality earned by Edwards
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Next Penalty
Carlos fouled in the box
allyuh doh miss this one
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2-2
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2-2
this game is excitement
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ohhhhhhh shitttttttt damn dat was a goal
carlosssssss penaltyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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wham like my feed delayed or wha??? i only now see de goal score
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wham like my feed delayed or wha??? i only now see de goal score
i afraid so, that link i posted is about 30 seconds delayed which is normal for an internet stream. I'm watching the game live on Sky
good shot just now by Carlos, nearly score
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wham like my feed delayed or wha??? i only now see de goal score
i afraid so, that link i posted is about 30 seconds delayed which is normal for an internet stream. I'm watching the game live on Sky
good shot just now by Carlos, nearly score
well small thing beggars cah be chooser....
thxs again Jay :beermug:
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is carlos score de pen?
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is carlos score de pen?
nope connelly
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"warm up Stern and Dwight!"
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come on fellas...we need a goal
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EDWARDSSSSS GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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CARLOS YUH MUDDA c**t
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Who say Carlos not getting buy by a big team in the EPL?
Goal again. A screamer
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WHAT A SCREAMER OF A GOAL BY CARLOS!!!
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i gawd i hate looking on dis thread cause i have a delayed feed :(
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WICKED GOAL! Goal of the year for sure!
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GOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!
CARLOS EDWARDSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
ABOUT 80 YEARDS OUT!!!
MAYBE 100 YARDS OUT!!!
HE NEARLY BURST THE NET
I think I've wet me knickers...
This is the man on the radio screaming down the place.
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GGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!
CAAAARRRRRLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSS EDDDDDDWWWWWAAAAARRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
GOAL OF DE SEASON!!!!!! :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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:o ;D :wavetowel: what ah MFing goooalll by Edwards :beermug: :wavetowel:
Big Up!
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL EDWARDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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EDWARDSSSSS GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I eh go lie... when ah read this ah get ah World Cup qualifying relief type feeling....
:wavetowel:
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Wicked right strike :beermug: :devil:
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I think I've wet me knickers...
This is the man on the radio screaming down the place.
I nearly pee meh pants wit laff in de people dem wuk when I hear he say dat!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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EDWARDS I LOVE YOU
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he lick down jap nest and de keeper still getting sting :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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EDWARDSSSSS GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I eh go lie... when ah read this ah get ah World Cup qualifying relief type feeling....
:wavetowel:
boy i was just thinking de same exact thing :wavetowel:
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Carlos has to be man of the match
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I think I've wet me knickers...
This is the man on the radio screaming down the place.
I nearly pee meh pants wit laff in de people dem wuk when I hear he say dat!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
ah almost start to cry oui ;D me pores raise big time ;D
Big Up!
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GOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!
CARLOS EDWARDSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
ABOUT 80 YEARDS OUT!!!
MAYBE 100 YARDS OUT!!!
HE NEARLY BURST THE NET
I think I've wet me knickers...
This is the man on the radio screaming down the place.
:rotfl: :rotfl: ah love dem sunderland fans oui
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KING CARLOS!!!
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STERN ON
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"warm up Stern and Dwight!"
As I said. Bravo into the fray. Gwaan Stern
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Dred
i hear de man say 80 yards out Edwards score
dais true?
Watch Edwards....one of we own. Endlessly proud of him.
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STERN coming in fuh a cobo sweat
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Is Stern John time......yes Mr. Keene....do yuh ting breda
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KING CARLOS!!!
YES
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EDWARDSSSSS GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I eh go lie... when ah read this ah get ah World Cup qualifying relief type feeling....
:wavetowel:
i had a similar feeling when i see it go in...kinda like that 2nd half when Liverpool come back against Milan ;D
ah really impressed with him..hard work does pay off..that fella could only get better
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EDWARDSSSSS GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I eh go lie... when ah read this ah get ah World Cup qualifying relief type feeling....
:wavetowel:
why yuh doh listen to de feed?....the commentators are excellent and it's not delayed.......
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
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JOHN ALMOST SCORE
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Stern throw way ::)
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JOHN ALMOST SCORE
lol stoyr of he life :devil: :devil:
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EDWARDSSSSS GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I eh go lie... when ah read this ah get ah World Cup qualifying relief type feeling....
:wavetowel:
why yuh doh listen to de feed?....the commentators are excellent and it's not delayed.......
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
daiz where I hear 80 yards...is that true? Anybody who getting visual can confirm?
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CARLOS YUH MUDDA c**t
:rotfl:
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hahahaha all yuh see dat super stern john shot....ah not hating but :rotfl:
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lawwd 4 agonising mins to go...Edwards almost score...
Big Up!
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weyyyyyy wedwards nearly score again
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EDWARDSSSSS GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I eh go lie... when ah read this ah get ah World Cup qualifying relief type feeling....
:wavetowel:
why yuh doh listen to de feed?....the commentators are excellent and it's not delayed.......
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
Because ah peeping in work and is monthend... and ppl extra fawking macocious
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EDWARDSSSSS GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I eh go lie... when ah read this ah get ah World Cup qualifying relief type feeling....
:wavetowel:
why yuh doh listen to de feed?....the commentators are excellent and it's not delayed.......
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
daiz where I hear 80 yards...is that true? Anybody who getting visual can confirm?
was from just outside the box..inside right channel
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
Win and you're in Sunderland!
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fellas, I wearing meh edwards sunderland jersey until dey get promoted ;D
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Trinilanddddddd winssssssssssssss
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:wavetowel: suun-der-laand suun-der-laand :wavetowel:
Big Up!
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Allyuh see dat goal?? WHAT A BULLET!!!! Dat goal wud put Birchall to shame!!!
About 30 yards out, from d right side of d box, to d top left hand corner, right in d "V"....keeper had nooooooooo chance
Goal of the month, easy, easy, easy
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Wow, an unbelievable ride.
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fellas, I wearing meh edwards sunderland jersey until dey get promoted ;D
doh come n sweat wit it tomrmow eh...
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CARLOS " MAN AH DE MATCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WoW.... Unbelievable game...King Carlos is a God....
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Allyuh see dat goal?? What a bullet!!!! Dat goal wud put Birchall to shame!!!
Goal of the month, easy, easy, easy
highlights people highlightsssssssssss
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fellas, I wearing meh edwards sunderland jersey until dey get promoted ;D
doh come n sweat wit it tomrmow eh...
yuh mad ah what...I sweating in dat jersey tomorrow fuh sure ;D
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fellas, I wearing meh edwards sunderland jersey until dey get promoted ;D
doh come n sweat wit it tomrmow eh...
aye so much for yuh seer abilities boss
looking forward to someone posting de goals fast
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fellas, I wearing meh edwards sunderland jersey until dey get promoted ;D
doh come n sweat wit it tomrmow eh...
yuh mad ah what...I sweating in dat jersey tomorrow fuh sure ;D
gosh man dey good as promoted...lol.
ease up on we nah ;D
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That goal has to be the best goal of the year,amazing bullett and it definitely was from about 80 yards out a truly magnificent strike from Sir Carlos Edwards Lord & Proctector of Sunderland.
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Yeah I had to check the replay on Setanta and watch SKY SPORTSS that for sure would be the game and goal of the day :beermug: :beermug:
Now is Raptors timeeee......time to Bust and Ripe up them Nets
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hightlights por favor
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WoW.... Unbelievable game...King Carlos is a God....
Lets not go to far, King is pushing but God? :rotfl:
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That goal has to be the best goal of the year,amazing bullett and it definitely was from about 80 yards out a truly magnificent strike from Sir Carlos Edwards Lord & Proctector of Sunderland.
:rotfl:
well obviously u ent see the goal..
with all due respect...80 yards would be from wayyy behind the half line ..
i would say about 19 yards out :beermug:[/size]
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Found a downloadable version of the entire game
Enjoy :beermug:
http://www.pando.com/link/preinstall?package=502DDF42790D35A09C9203AF1D9B6D000BA94578&key=F3B573E89CD59DD331CDC1E87D30829F6CEAB77DA00B3C767A3E6638B08AF9F3&referer=http%3A%2F%2Ffbtz.com%2Fforum%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D74381
i'm looking for highlights though
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:wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: ;D
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Sunderland 3-2 Burnley
BBC Sport
Sunderland boosted their automatic promotion hopes thanks to Carlos Edwards' superb angled drive at the end of a five-goal, three-penalty thriller.
Daryl Murphy tapped in to put the hosts ahead before David Connolly's spot-kick was saved after he himself was fouled.
Andy Gray levelled from the spot after a foul on Wade Elliot, who then smashed in from 25 yards to put Burnley ahead.
But Sunderland won another penalty when Edwards was felled and Connolly scored, before Edwards' cracking winner.
Edwards had a fierce drive saved by keeper Brian Jensen in injury time and Stern John had trickled a shot just beyond the post just before that as Sunderland pushed to make the win more comfortable.
But for a while it had been edge-of-the-seat stuff for the home fans, who had to watch their team come from behind as Burnley threatened to upset Roy Keane's side.
In the end, though, Sunderland's victory was just about deserved and they return to the top of the Championship table, two points ahead of Birmingham.
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Sunderland: Ward, Simpson, Nosworthy, Evans, Collins, Edwards, Whitehead, Liam Miller (Leadbitter 73), Stokes (Hysen 71), Murphy, Connolly (John 86).
Subs Not Used: Fulop, Yorke.
Booked: Liam Miller, Edwards.
Goals: Murphy 14, Connolly 54 pen, Edwards 80.
Burnley: Jensen, Duff, Thomas, Caldwell, Harley, Elliott (Spicer 73), Djemba-Djemba, McCann (Gudjonsson 29), Jones (Akinbiyi 58), Gray, McVeigh.
Subs Not Used: Coyne, Coughlan.
Booked: Duff, Djemba-Djemba, Gudjonsson.
Goals: Gray 39 pen, Elliott 50.
Att: 44,448
Ref: T M Kettle (Rutland).
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The Coca-Cola Football League Championship Table
27 April 2007
P GD PTS
1 Sunderland 45 24 85 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
2 Birmingham 44 24 83
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3 Derby 44 16 81
4 Preston 44 12 71
5 West Brom 44 18 70
6 Wolverhampton 44 -2 70
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7 Southampton 44 20 69
8 Stoke 44 19 69
9 Colchester 44 18 69
10 Sheff Wed 44 5 68
11 Cardiff 44 7 64
12 Plymouth 44 -2 61
13 Crystal Palace 44 4 59
14 Ipswich 44 3 58
15 Burnley 45 4 57
16 Norwich 44 -13 57
17 Coventry 44 -15 53
18 QPR 44 -12 52
19 Leicester 44 -13 50
20 Barnsley 44 -24 50
21 Hull 44 -16 46
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22 Leeds 44 -24 45
23 Southend 44 -28 42
24 Luton 44 -25 37
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Look goals:
http://media.putfile.com/SUNDERLAND-3-BURNLEY-2
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Awesome!! Even Manager Quinn in de clip saying "Yes!!!!!!! I love those T&T players!!!
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Awesome!! Even Manager Quinn in de clip saying "Yes!!!!!!! I love those T&T players!!!
It looks like he bawl "facking hell" at de end dey ;D
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Look goals:
http://media.putfile.com/SUNDERLAND-3-BURNLEY-2
Carlos..what a player. Belt the defender before getting trip for the penalty. Lash another unstoppable goal in the jep nes'. That is 11 goals for the season from the right side of midfield. Absolutely brilliant. If Derby loses at Crystal Palace tomorrow...Sunderland is in the EPL. I'll be a Crystal P fan for a day
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dat is what u calla demon...what ah strike by carlos
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Found a downloadable version of the entire game
Enjoy :beermug:
http://www.pando.com/link/preinstall?package=502DDF42790D35A09C9203AF1D9B6D000BA94578&key=F3B573E89CD59DD331CDC1E87D30829F6CEAB77DA00B3C767A3E6638B08AF9F3&referer=http%3A%2F%2Ffbtz.com%2Fforum%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D74381
i'm looking for highlights though
niceness small mag :beermug:
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SSN report
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1tyts_sunderland-v-burnley-270407-ssn-mat
:beermug:
Downloadable version(I'm guessing it would be HQ)
http://rapidshare.com/files/28273474/Sunderland_V_Burnley_27.04.07_SSN_Match_report.zip
:beermug:
Carlos goal(youtube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-43J342W7M&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffbtz%2Ecom%2Fforum%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D74384
:beermug:
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yeah that was um a nice goal
carlos :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Amazing goal. Carlos has scored some of our best this season but that tops them all.
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Yeah, he's (Carlos) every wing back's worst nightmare, can hit w/both feet, you don't know whether to let him cut inside or give him the line; he's turning into one helluva of winger, bless up Carlos....
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D commentator call carlos d rolls royce on d right yes....Carlos you geh on with that goal dread...Geeze an ages...
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Superb goal by carlos that really was a bullet best for the season for me :beermug:
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SSN report
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1tyts_sunderland-v-burnley-270407-ssn-mat
:beermug:
Downloadable version(I'm guessing it would be HQ)
http://rapidshare.com/files/28273474/Sunderland_V_Burnley_27.04.07_SSN_Match_report.zip
:beermug:
Carlos goal(youtube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-43J342W7M&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffbtz%2Ecom%2Fforum%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D74384
:beermug:
Make sure all these go in the goal section
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I don't know what to say!! The superb quality of the strike and the importance of the goal with 10 mins of regulation time remaining just shows his class!
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i mostly impressed with his 1st touch that resulted in the penalty that was brillant
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that goal was amazing :o by carlos
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I luv this site I eh hear nutten boout th egame just the score that we boys team win. I read the 6 pgs and I feel like I was part of the excitement. Big up the next soca warriors captin.
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I tink I is the first to call for him to be named captain too ,not that sure tho. ;D
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Roy Keane's remarks:
"The [Edwards] goal was fitting to win any game. The game summed up our season. We gave away one or two soft goals but the players again showed great character, determination and desire. I'm very lucky with the players I have got.
It was a captain's performance by Dean Whitehead, that's why he is skipper.
He tackles, he's brave, he's honest and he trains well. He was different class tonight. He does a lot of stuff that maybe goes unnoticed, but not from me.
It keeps it in our own hands. A draw or loss tonight would have put Birmingham and Derby back in the driving seat. We'll be ready for Luton next weekend.
We encourage the players to shot. If you don't shoot, you don't score. It was a hell of a move as well.
When we played Luton here, Carlos stuck in my mind and we are fortunate to have him.
It was arranged before the game that we would go around the pitch because it was our last home match, you always want to thank the supporters, but it helps when you win.
I'm sure the fans enjoyed tonight's game. Credit to Burnley, they came and had a go. Teams have come here and tried to shut up shop, but Burnley came and had a right go.
There's nothing I can do, I'll be out somewhere on Sunday, I won't watch the Derby match. They have to win both games now. We're not depending on anyone now.
I'm grateful for the support the fans have given me, but it's all about the players, they are the ones who run across the white line.
The players have got to enjoy playing for Sunderland. Forty-five thousand here tonight - you have got to count your blessing.
There was tension - there was everything in the game, but did I enjoy it? No.
[Daryl] Murphy has got all the attributes to be a top player. I spoke to him before the game, I said he needed to show us what he is about and he came through with flying colours.
He's still got a hell of a lot to do, it was a big test for him and I was delighted with him."
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good game bois............. keep at it
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Now seen the goal..whew. Brilliant :applause:
Very nice counterattack too
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brilliant goal,buy wuh happen to yorke.
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SSN report
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1tyts_sunderland-v-burnley-270407-ssn-mat
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AH SEE SOMEONE WEARING AH STRIKE SQUAD JERSEY BEHIND THE MAN WHO COULDNT WATCH THE SECOND PENALTY
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is de top 2 goin to epl from championship?
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is de top 2 goin to epl from championship?
top two spots automatic. The 3rd 4th and 5th have to go in playoffs to decide d 3rd and final spot
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brilliant goal,buy wuh happen to yorke.
He has a yellow card and Keano, de master tactician dat he is, was saving Yorke for de final game next Sunday, instead of risking a 2nd yellow for De General in de second to last game against Burnley. ;)
Yuh need to have yuh men who have nerves of steel, who wouldn't choke with the final cliff-hanger game. Daiz Yorkie!
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is de top 2 goin to epl from championship?
top two spots automatic. The 3rd 4th and 5th have to go in playoffs to decide d 3rd and final spot
What a goal! Had to just watch the game all over again. :)
(PS: 3,4,5 and 6 go into the playoffs)
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Southampton is 6th and play their last game at home to the already relegated (2nd to last) Southend. Kenwyne and co. have a great chance to make the playoffs. Lets hope Crystal Palace beat up on Derby 2-morrow and then Southampton creep in via the playoffs... ;D
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Promoted to the EPL with Derby's 2-0 loss today at Crystal Palace!!! Well done!!
A remarkable job by manager Keane, his players, and Chairman Quinn.
Looking forward to seeing Carlos in the top flight next season. Hopefully both Dwight & Stern will be retained as well!
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if dis is true CONGRATS SUNDERLAND!!!!!!!!
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look an article here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_div_1/6605665.stm
congrats to sunderland and fans!!
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Confirmed on BBC Radio 5Live: Birmingham and Sunderland are promoted! Well done Dwight, Stern, Carlos and Roy Keane! What a story!
They trying to get Dwight Yorke on his mobile phone on the radio..will post a summary if/when they do...
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It's true.
congrats to all the Sunderland faithful.
Very happy for Carlos, Stern and Yorke.
Very happy for Keane answering his critics
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now to the epl yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ;D (http://www.dinamomania.net/forums/style_emoticons/Custom/beer.gif)
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Hip Hip hoorah ;D
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Well done bois.... well done....
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Congrats to Sunderland and the T&T trio, I hope they represent well next season.
Special mention to Dwight Yorke as he has done almost everything, if not everything there is to accomplished in football.
Now lets hope Southampton can follow Sunderland into the Premiership as well.
Swansea could make the play-off, so good luck to them also.
Sad Jason Scotland didn't make it, but had it been 2 teams going up he would have been there for sure. Lets hope he moves on to a bigger team.
I also hope Wrexham survive regulation for the sake of Josh Johnson. Because he is better off playing in T&T than conference-league football....8)
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Thanks, and thanks to the three T'n'T lads who have all made a worthy contribution to what we've achieved this season
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Taken from FoxSoccer.com
Standings
Team P W D L Pts GF GA Diff
1. Cardiff 5 4 1 0 13 7 2 +5
2. Norwich City 5 3 1 1 10 10 4 +6
3. Crystal Palace 5 3 1 1 10 9 6 +3
4. Birmingham City 5 3 1 1 10 5 4 +1
5. Wolverhampton Wanderers 5 3 1 1 10 5 4 +1
6. Burnley 5 2 2 1 8 6 4 +2
7. Plymouth 5 2 2 1 8 7 6 +1
8. West Bromwich Albion 5 2 2 1 8 5 4 +1
9. Southampton 5 1 4 0 7 7 5 +2
10. Luton 5 2 1 2 7 7 6 +1
11. Leeds United 5 2 1 2 7 4 4 0
12. Leicester City 5 2 1 2 7 4 4 0
13. Coventry 5 2 1 2 7 3 4 -1
14. Barnsley 5 2 1 2 7 9 12 -3
15. Stoke 5 1 3 1 6 5 4 +1
16. Preston 5 1 3 1 6 5 5 0
17. Southend 5 2 0 3 6 5 7 -2
18. Sheff Wed 5 1 2 2 5 3 4 -1
19. Derby 5 1 2 2 5 7 9 -2
20. Queens Park Rangers 5 1 2 2 5 6 8 -2
21. Ipswich 5 1 1 3 4 5 7 -2
22. Colchester 5 1 0 4 3 7 10 -3
23. Sunderland 5 1 0 4 3 6 9 -3
24. Hull 5 0 1 4 1 3 8 -5
Well, as you can see our socawarriors are located in these highlighted teams of the 2nd tier (immediately below the Premier League of the English leagues.) This league is becoming extremely competitive as they desperately fight for promotion to the big bonanza promised land of the Premiership.The season is still early with only 5 games played but yuh could see what Dwight is up against as Keano needs as much ammunition as possible to be one of the few etc for promotion while fighting up with the ambitions of Norwich, Palace, Coventry, Leeds, Southampton, Birmingham City and Leicester City.
Real pressure.
Man dey come a long way up
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Taken from FoxSoccer.com
Standings
Team P W D L Pts GF GA Diff
1. Cardiff 5 4 1 0 13 7 2 +5
2. Norwich City 5 3 1 1 10 10 4 +6
3. Crystal Palace 5 3 1 1 10 9 6 +3
4. Birmingham City 5 3 1 1 10 5 4 +1
5. Wolverhampton Wanderers 5 3 1 1 10 5 4 +1
6. Burnley 5 2 2 1 8 6 4 +2
7. Plymouth 5 2 2 1 8 7 6 +1
8. West Bromwich Albion 5 2 2 1 8 5 4 +1
9. Southampton 5 1 4 0 7 7 5 +2
10. Luton 5 2 1 2 7 7 6 +1
11. Leeds United 5 2 1 2 7 4 4 0
12. Leicester City 5 2 1 2 7 4 4 0
13. Coventry 5 2 1 2 7 3 4 -1
14. Barnsley 5 2 1 2 7 9 12 -3
15. Stoke 5 1 3 1 6 5 4 +1
16. Preston 5 1 3 1 6 5 5 0
17. Southend 5 2 0 3 6 5 7 -2
18. Sheff Wed 5 1 2 2 5 3 4 -1
19. Derby 5 1 2 2 5 7 9 -2
20. Queens Park Rangers 5 1 2 2 5 6 8 -2
21. Ipswich 5 1 1 3 4 5 7 -2
22. Colchester 5 1 0 4 3 7 10 -3
23. Sunderland 5 1 0 4 3 6 9 -3
24. Hull 5 0 1 4 1 3 8 -5
Well, as you can see our socawarriors are located in these highlighted teams of the 2nd tier (immediately below the Premier League of the English leagues.) This league is becoming extremely competitive as they desperately fight for promotion to the big bonanza promised land of the Premiership.The season is still early with only 5 games played but yuh could see what Dwight is up against as Keano needs as much ammunition as possible to be one of the few etc for promotion while fighting up with the ambitions of Norwich, Palace, Coventry, Leeds, Southampton, Birmingham City and Leicester City.
Real pressure.
Man dey come a long way up
Long way up is surely an understatement.... it's like they have just scaled Mt Everest........
WELL DONE AND CONGRATULATIONS TO SUNDERLAND AND ESPECIALLY OUR BOYS!!!!!!!!!
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congrats sunderland...well done yorke stern and carlos :beermug:
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Look where luton was :o
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Congrats to Sunderland!!!
CARLOS!!! yuh finally dere boy, yuh finally dere....yuh more than deserved this :beermug:
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Birmingham & Sunderland promoted
BBC Sports
Birmingham and Sunderland will play in the Premiership next term after Derby's defeat by Crystal Palace sealed the pair's promotion from the Championship.
The Rams started the day four points adrift of Sunderland and five behind leaders Birmingham and were unable to close the gap, with one match to play.
That means they must be content with a place in the play-offs.
Birmingham go to Preston and Sunderland visit Luton on the final day of the season as they battle for the title.
And Birmingham chairman David Gold says the club's promotion justifies the faith the board showed in manager Steve Bruce, even when fans were calling for him to be sacked in mid-October when Blues were 11 points adrift of then leaders Cardiff.
"A few months back people were looking to see Steve Bruce go from the club," said Gold.
The board has got to stump up that money and has got to invest that money in the club's future
Birmingham managing director Karren Brady
"They were saying to us 'you should do certain things' but forgive me if I now say we have been vindicated for refusing to panic and in keeping faith in Steve.
"It is rare for clubs to go straight back up and it is a great performance to achieve that.
"There have been some dark days but Steve has been outstanding. He was determined to bounce back. He has rebuilt the team and now we are all back where we want to be."
And Blues managing director Karren Brady confirmed there will be funds to strengthen the team during the summer.
"Of course there will be funds," she stated.
"There is a lot of money coming into football next year from the broadcasting deal and we have all learnt that the Premiership is the only place to be.
"We have learned from our mistakes, we understand what needs to be done and that is going to take an enormous amount of investment.
"The board has got to stump up that money and has got to invest that money in the club's future."
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Thanks, and thanks to the three T'n'T lads who have all made a worthy contribution to what we've achieved this season
:beermug:
Conkered.
Just hoping the Luton game is on TV next weekend... up for the Cup. HAWAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY!
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Thanks, and thanks to the three T'n'T lads who have all made a worthy contribution to what we've achieved this season
:beermug:
Concurred :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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It really has been an remarkable turnaround since Roy took over and brought on our trio. A good and well deserved change of fortunes for all involved.
I'm waiting for the statisticians to see how many other footballers have left the premiership, gone abroad to play for a season, come back with a struggling championship team and guided them back to the premiership....i don't think they're going to be that many, if any who can boast of such an accomplishment.
I for one looking forward to going more often to the Stadium of Light!
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Airfare from JFK to London..... $589 US
Cost of hotel near the S.O.L....27 pounds
Tickets to a Sunderland game..... 24 pounds
Cheering on Carlos, Dwight, Stern and the rest of the Sunderland lads with the Warrior Nation at the Stadium of Light next EPL season.....PRICELESS! ;D
1 down 1 to go....come on Kenwayne and Southampton we are behind you 200%!
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well done fellas well done!!!
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wow congrats!
looking forward to see the boyz rip up esp carlos.
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Congratz tuh de Sunderland Family!!!
BIG TEAM WITH BIG PLAYERZ!!!
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Well done to the RED, BLACK AND WHITE...... Sunderland !!!!
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Big up to Carlos, Dwight and Stern, the WHOLE Sunderland squad and Roy Keane...they deserve to be in the EPL
a tremendous achievement given where they started off from
Congratulations :applause:
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Edwards safe..bu i jus hope Yorke and Stern will get some play in the prem for Sunderland
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Congrats to Sunderland and the T&T trio, I hope they represent well next season.
Special mention to Dwight Yorke as he has done almost everything, if not everything there is to accomplished in football.
Now lets hope Southampton can follow Sunderland into the Premiership as well.
Swansea could make the play-off, so good luck to them also.
Sad Jason Scotland didn't make it, but had it been 2 teams going up he would have been there for sure. Lets hope he moves on to a bigger team.
I also hope Wrexham survive regulation for the sake of Josh Johnson. Because he is better off playing in T&T than conference-league football....8)
The rumour is Birmingham looking to bring him in seeing that mikel forsell might be sold to a club in germany,on another note congrats to Sunderland and we trini boys,lets hope Birmingham loses next week and Sunderland win so they can capture the league trophy.
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now to the epl yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ;D (http://www.dinamomania.net/forums/style_emoticons/Custom/beer.gif)
Thanks you SAFC for taking our fella Carlos away from Luton.
now we going and see all dem closet TnT HATERS ;) ;)
when Sunderland plays ManUBuntas we go see who supporting de fellas an dem ;D
closet TnT haters where yall :devil: :devil:
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Congrats Sun'land, comeone Southampton now!!
Hopefully we can see all 3 sunderland trinis staying with Keane next year in the epl.
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now to the epl yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ;D (http://www.dinamomania.net/forums/style_emoticons/Custom/beer.gif)
Thanks you SAFC for taking our fella Carlos away from Luton.
now we going and see all dem closet TnT HATERS ;) ;)
when Sunderland plays ManUBuntas we go see who supporting de fellas an dem ;D
closet TnT haters where yall :devil: :devil:
Sorry to say i will still want MAN.U to win but also want atleast one of we trinis to score. ;D
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Congrats to Sunderland...
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Promoted Keane takes plaudits
Sunderland defender Carlos Edwards hailed manager Roy Keane after The Black Cats' return to the Premiership was confirmed on Sunday.
Derby's defeat at Crystal Palace meant the champagne corks were popping at The Stadium of Light, as well as at Birmingham's St Andrews.
Keane has worked the oracle at Sunderland, who became the worst side in Premiership history last term and then started this term in similarly inauspicious form.
Edwards admits the former Manchester United midfielder is an inspiration.
"His profile said it all. The calibre of the man is second to none, the things that he's achieved," Edwards told Sky Sports News.
"The players want to emulate the things he's done in his career.
"Just him being in charge of the Sunderland club has given the guys that extra drive that they need to try to be the player he was.
"He won't accept second best at anything. I think the guys go out there with one intention, to do their best."
Keane, himself, paid tribute to the club's staff for realising his objective.
"It's great news for the club. I am delighted for the players, who have done a fantastic job," said Keane, who did not watch Derby's match, preferring instead to take his dog, Triggs, for a walk.
"I am also delighted for all the staff, who have played such a vital part, the fans, who have been tremendous in their support for the team and for Niall and the board, who have been a great support since I arrived at the club."
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=463977&CPID=10&clid=56&lid=2&title=Promoted+Keane+takes+plaudits&channel=football_home&
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now to the epl yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ;D (http://www.dinamomania.net/forums/style_emoticons/Custom/beer.gif)
Thanks you SAFC for taking our fella Carlos away from Luton.
now we going and see all dem closet TnT HATERS ;) ;)
when Sunderland plays ManUBuntas we go see who supporting de fellas an dem ;D
closet TnT haters where yall :devil: :devil:
Sorry to say i will still want MAN.U to win but also want atleast one of we trinis to score. ;D
Like waz he name who does make a ManBoo HATERS list
I goin an make one also
and I sending it to de ministry ;D ;D ;D ;D
I jez on kicks today
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now to the epl yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ;D (http://www.dinamomania.net/forums/style_emoticons/Custom/beer.gif)
Thanks you SAFC for taking our fella Carlos away from Luton.
now we going and see all dem closet TnT HATERS ;) ;)
when Sunderland plays ManUBuntas we go see who supporting de fellas an dem ;D
closet TnT haters where yall :devil: :devil:
Sorry to say i will still want MAN.U to win but also want atleast one of we trinis to score. ;D
Like waz he name who does make a ManBoo HATERS list
I goin an make one also
and I sending it to de ministry ;D ;D ;D ;D
I jez on kicks today
I don't have a second team to back so Sunderland will be my second team and if Southampton make it they will be my third team.
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Congrats to the Sunderland Krew :beermug: i could finally have some trini's in my fantasy team ;D
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Make no bones about it. This is an AWESOME accomplishment for Sunlun and the three T&T musketeers who are big-time ambassadors for likkle T&T and who are opening the doors for our young players. 45,000 in the Stadium of Light and millions watching on TV last friday, all of whom got the take-home message. "Invest in T&T talent, even if sounds like a strange, risky and novel idea, but they will make you rich!..... so let's start de gold rush for more". I am happy happy, happy like pappy!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Spin-offs from this:
1. Sunlun prospers and stays in the Premiership
2. Sunlun becomes a media sensation delight and books start to be written with input from we boys.
3. Sunlun starts academy in T&T to source talent to ensure that they always have 3-4 T&T gems for the future as they know how they got back up and who they are indebted to.
4. PFL teams play against Sunlun first team and reserve teams in pre-season helping our league & professionalism
5. T&T becomes target of a football Gold rush, local advertizers now get it and money starts to pump in.
6. Price of T&T players goes up. PFL teams get wealthier and Connection starts buying Brazilians from higher leagues. T&T foreign bas start thinking "Wheyyyss, ah better join dem team as a good opportunity boy" and Touches becomes a syndicated reporter for a best selling PFL evening show.
7. T&T players become news again in the EPL.
8. T&T foreign based develop more teflon to Jackula and his need to blackmail previously struggling & supposedly vulnerable footballers ketchin' dey nennen in only lower leagues
9. T&T players start to believe in themselves again and approach Costa Rica with a new attitude.
10. T&T players have new voice and audience & find confidence to challenge Jackula, Scamps and Rodent
11. Dwight Yorke says "Buy Cornell Glen now" ... and Keano says "Yorrrkie, whateverrr you say Brrredz!" in his usual Irrrrrish accent ;D
12. Scotland is bought by EPL team feeling threatened by this new Sunlun/Socawarrior juggernaut.
13. Ince goes up to League 1 and before you know it is bought by a Championship team before he retires after the World Cup.
14. A whole new aura about being a T&T baller develops and we break de Concacaf underdog psychological syndrome and we start ressin' :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: on Costa Rica, USA, Mexico, Jamaica and Honduras]
15. Socawarriors.net booms
16. Yorkie will want to play 2 more years as he loves the EPL spotlight of this new ManU-like Sunlun team
17. Sunlun / T&T tourism network develops
Dis eh jess fantasy dread ;D
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here we come :beermug:! lemme quickly say that i was behind this team before any trini came over there. so yuh know i didnt jump on the wagon . just stating it. not attacking anyone in particular.
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With the loss of Derby today.
Sunderland and Birmingham has gained automatic promotion to the premiership.
Good luck Carlos, Stern & Dwight
Socarandy
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Congrats Sunderland!!! The EPL awaits.
You'll be on the BIG stage soon Carlos...handle your business, stay healthy and blessings will come your way.TnT, TnT!!!
CONGRATS!!!!
Vibes it up!!
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I don't did not have a second team to back. So Now Sunderland will be my second First team and if Southampton make it they will be my second team, and ManU :notworthy: ;) will be my third team.
Airman, :angel: I changed that line for you :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
How did I do ;D ;D
Support TrinBagonians before anything else ;)
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Make no bones about it. This is an AWESOME accomplishment for Sunlun and the three T&T musketeers who are big-time ambassadors for likkle T&T and who are opening the doors for our young players. 45,000 in the Stadium of Light and millions watching on TV last friday, all of whom got the take-home message. "Invest in T&T talent, even if sounds like a strange, risky and novel idea, but they will make you rich!..... so let's start de gold rush for more". I am happy happy, happy like pappy!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Ditto!
In September when Yorke signed with Sunderland, a lot of people on this board were saying that a promotion this season was highly unlikely, maybe possible next season etc. Kudos goes first to Keane of course, congrats to Sunderland players with special congrats to the T&T pirates Dwight, Edwards and Stern.
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I don't did not have a second team to back. So Now Sunderland will be my second First team and if Southampton make it they will be my second team, and ManBoo will be my third team.
Airman, :angel: I changed that line for you :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
How did I do ;D ;D
Support TrinBagonians before anything else ;)
OK but instead of man boo it's MAN.U TO YOU ;D
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Congrats to Sunderland !
Here is wishing good luck to the Trini Trio, hope they still with the club for the top flight and most importantly, stay fit and healthy!
Its been a while since we had multiple trinis in the EPL, would be a nice welcome back.
Sunderland sis a real nice job this seson, story book stuff.
With all the money now available to EPL teams with that new amost 1 billion pound contract signed recently, you could bet yr mortgage on it that Sunderland will be chasing down some very big name players too...
Not meaning to dampen the mood, this could also potentially mean the end of Carlos Edwards as a regular T&T national player...Not like he playing much for us these days, but with stiffer competition for places in the top flight and more money running around for all involved, he will be hesitant to return even on FIFA calendar days now.
Let us also look at our history and not repeat our mistakes.
We had a team of all stars, nuff men in EPL and SPL, making headlines in their respective leagues...top scoring in champions league and hattrick vs Arsenal one day, and when back in national colours, almost anonymous...
This is by no way an automatic right for us to go on believing we are now going to be untouchable in CONCACAF...
But back to the moment, I hope CNC3 make sure and renew SportaMax contract for next season!
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Dreamer:
You are a true dreamer. Buh dreams are to be realized. If you doh dream, yuh have nothing to shoot for. ;D
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Some good news at last no man on blacklist. No man who on trial and eh get a contract. No man eh get a work permit. Congrats guys hope that all of u their next yr in the EPL.
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Someone post the final standings
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Fellas, it eh over. Watch Southampton and Stoke on de same points and goal difference. Last game: Southampton playing at home to Southend and Stoke playing away to QPR. C'mon Jones!!! :praying: :praying:
The Coca-Cola Football League Championship Table
29 April 2007
P GD PTS
1 Birmingham 45 26 86
2 Sunderland 45 24 85
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3 Derby 45 14 81
4 West Brom 45 19 73
5 Wolverhampton 45 0 73
6 Southampton 45 21 72
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7 Stoke 45 21 72
8 Preston 45 10 71
9 Colchester 45 16 69
10 Sheff Wed 45 3 68
11 Cardiff 45 6 64
12 Plymouth 45 0 64
13 Crystal Palace 45 6 62
14 Ipswich 45 3 59
15 Burnley 45 4 57
16 Norwich 45 -14 57
17 Leicester 45 -12 53
18 Coventry 45 -16 53
19 QPR 45 -14 52
20 Barnsley 45 -25 50
21 Hull 45 -15 49
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22 Leeds 45 -24 46
23 Southend 45 -30 42
24 Luton 45 -23 40
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Oh lord Carlos and Dwight in de Premiership next season!!!..... :drool:
Oh lord it too much to take....ah goin' lie down before this light headedness make mih fall down...
Sunderland vs. Man U.....Man U is topic dat does done light up dis board, imagine de postings on a game like dis one....... :duel: :duel:
Of course I goh be backing Sunderland..... :beermug:
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excellent news.maybe they could finsh on top ah de table in de epl. :praying: :praying:
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excellent news.maybe they could finsh on top ah de table in de epl. :praying: :praying:
Yeah, buh how yuh mean...and geh extra dullahs to buy Glen by coming fuss-place ;D
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Make no bones about it. This is an AWESOME accomplishment for Sunlun and the three T&T musketeers who are big-time ambassadors for likkle T&T and who are opening the doors for our young players. 45,000 in the Stadium of Light and millions watching on TV last friday, all of whom got the take-home message. "Invest in T&T talent, even if sounds like a strange, risky and novel idea, but they will make you rich!..... so let's start de gold rush for more". I am happy happy, happy like pappy!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Spin-offs from this:
1. Sunlun prospers and stays in the Premiership
2. Sunlun becomes a media sensation delight and books start to be written with input from we boys.
3. Sunlun starts academy in T&T to source talent to ensure that they always have 3-4 T&T gems for the future as they know how they got back up and who they are indebted to.
4. PFL teams play against Sunlun first team and reserve teams in pre-season helping our league & professionalism
5. T&T becomes target of a football Gold rush, local advertizers now get it and money starts to pump in.
6. Price of T&T players goes up. PFL teams get wealthier and Connection starts buying Brazilians from higher leagues. T&T foreign bas start thinking "Wheyyyss, ah better join dem team as a good opportunity boy" and Touches becomes a syndicated reporter for a best selling PFL evening show.
7. T&T players become news again in the EPL.
8. T&T foreign based develop more teflon to Jackula and his need to blackmail previously struggling & supposedly vulnerable footballers ketchin' dey nennen in only lower leagues
9. T&T players start to believe in themselves again and approach Costa Rica with a new attitude.
10. T&T players have new voice and audience & find confidence to challenge Jackula, Scamps and Rodent
11. Dwight Yorke says "Buy Cornell Glen now" ... and Keano says "Yorrrkie, whateverrr you say Brrredz!" in his usual Irrrrrish accent ;D
12. Scotland is bought by EPL team feeling threatened by this new Sunlun/Socawarrior juggernaut.
13. Ince goes up to League 1 and before you know it is bought by a Championship team before he retires after the World Cup.
14. A whole new aura about being a T&T baller develops and we break de Concacaf underdog psychological syndrome and we start ressin' :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: on Costa Rica, USA, Mexico, Jamaica and Honduras]
15. Socawarriors.net booms
16. Yorkie will want to play 2 more years as he loves the EPL spotlight of this new ManU-like Sunlun team
17. Sunlun / T&T tourism network develops
Dis eh jess fantasy dread ;D
Yuh not easy ;D
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Ah believe dwight and stern go get drop,but they'll keep carlos........Is ah business and the epl does treat people like horses..............
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Ah believe dwight and stern go get drop,but they'll keep carlos........Is ah business and the epl does treat people like horses..............
Keep dis post well stored for retrieval as an example of our endemic, almost congenital, self-worthlessness and negativity. Is like a sickness dread. When de EPL season start dis post will be referred to as a teaching tool.
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Ah believe dwight and stern go get drop,but they'll keep carlos........Is ah business and the epl does treat people like horses..............
Keep dis post well stored for retrieval as an example of our endemic, almost congenital, self-worthlessness and negativity. Is like a sickness dread. When de EPL season start dis post will be referred to as a teaching tool.
Dreamer, are suggesting that it is on par to the thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=23860.msg257586#msg257586) where people were saying that Carlos should NOT go to Sunderland?
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Almost
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(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42825000/gif/_42825367_sunderland_rise_416.gif)
nothing more to say ;)
very good article here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/6588831.stm
here are some pictures of the season (http://www.bbc.co.uk/wear/sport/sunderland_afc/safc_galleries/index.shtml)
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Ah believe dwight and stern go get drop,but they'll keep carlos........Is ah business and the epl does treat people like horses..............
Keep dis post well stored for retrieval as an example of our endemic, almost congenital, self-worthlessness and negativity. Is like a sickness dread. When de EPL season start dis post will be referred to as a teaching tool.
Dreamer, are suggesting that it is on par to the thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=23860.msg257586#msg257586) where people were saying that Carlos should NOT go to Sunderland?
take it easy..this is NOT negativity and self hate. He never said he wishes this will happen. You guys are like a mafia for conformity. 'Sound like me or I'll try to embarass you'. clownish behavior. someone is probably just giving an opinion based on how he has seen promoted teams move in the past with players who don't start every game or players who are of a certain age. Noone ever said they hope Yorke or Stern get dropped. This is uncalled for...just a piece of analysis. If anything it is criticizing the business of football. Many people probably feel the same..it's not a nasty thread and is not an indictment of Yorke or Stern's ability...at least u can't assume that absed on the thread. And clearly not anyone's actual wish..so let's grow up and just enjoy the Sunderland promotion and stop acting like every post hadda be some rah rah ranting about go T&T. And learn to read and interpret people's opinions without jumping to dumb conclusions about their patriotism. You want negativity...go to the official Sunderland website and read the thread on who they would like to get rid of once they get promoted. Just about everyone wants to get rid of Stern and Yorke...then come back and read this post and you will see the difference.
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I know I'm a bit late adding to this thread but I would like to send out my congrats to Dwight, Carlos & Stern & the rest of the Sunderland team on achieving promotion with 1 game left to play!!
I hope Keane gives all three of our players their fair chance to contribute to the continued progress of the team in the Premiership next season! By all means strengthen the squad but please give the players who helped you gain promotion a chance to continue contributing!
Lets hope we can also get our best available players for the Gold Cup, Camps & Jack need to stop the bully-boy antics and grow up!
You blood suckers please settle with our World Cup players so we can have our best team for the upcoming Gold Cup!
If you don't wish to treat our players with appreciation and respect then please ride off into the sunset and leave our football and players alone and we will do well thank you very much!! :chilling:
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YEAAAAHHHHHH TO SUNDERLAND ON A FANTASTIC SEASON!!!!! THE TRINI 3 MADE THEIR MARK FOR SURE.
I CANNOT WAIT FOR 07/08 SEASON TO BEGIN!
IMAGINE HEARING MARTIN TYLER CALLING THE NAME OF DWIGHT YORKE AGAIN ALONGSIDE DROGBA, ROONEY, VAN PERSIE ETC
:applause: :applause: :applause: I am so proud of our guys
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Good Morning Ball Jumbies.
Congrats Sunderland, you did well. But for TT football to progress, more fans need to attend local game. We can't depend on the English/Euro league to take us to paradise. Look what happened when the English county cricket start restricting WI players. Bottom of the barrel. Well somewhere near the middle. LOCAL FANS SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL FOOTBALL.
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Has there ever been a turnaround like this for a championship team?
Keane is a genius yes.
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cheers
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Good Morning Ball Jumbies.
Congrats Sunderland, you did well. But for TT football to progress, more fans need to attend local game. We can't depend on the English/Euro league to take us to paradise. Look what happened when the English county cricket start restricting WI players. Bottom of the barrel. Well somewhere near the middle. LOCAL FANS SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL FOOTBALL.
FUH REAL!!!!!!! solid point man.we need to big up and strenghten we own ting. like yuh said , yuh never know when dem jerks will flip. positive
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Good point Deekos. Your best post so far. True talk dat!
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video link anyone?
Mon Jul 30 11:30AM Pacific
Mon Jul 30 12:30PM Mountain
Mon Jul 30 01:30PM Central
Mon Jul 30 02:30PM Eastern
Length: 2 hr 30 min LIVE
Setanta Sports USA
Friendly - UEFA - Pre-season
Cork City (Ireland) vs Sunderland (England)
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Seeing the intense amount of interest that the presence of several trinis in one premiership club has and will incite, I have taken the initiative of making one thread on the subject. It should help to keep the board clean as well...
(http://kassiesa.com/uefaclubs/images/Sunderland-AFC.png)
Club : Sunderland Association Football Club
Nickname : The Black Cats
Founded : 1879
Official Website : http://www.safc.com
Stadium : Stadium of Light (since 1997) Capacity : 49 000
Location : City of Sunderland, England
Manager : Roy Keane
Honour Roll (since 1992) : CHAMPIONSHIP Winners: 1996, 1999, 2005 & 2007
Kits: Home Away Goalkeeper
(http://www.shopcreator.com/mall/SunderlandAFC/customerimages/products/10585.jpg) (http://www.safcstore.com/images/prod_thu_984.jpg) (http://www.safcstore.com/images/prod_thu_1025.jpg)
(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/sep_07/safc_1190295227_team_photo.jpg)
Squad: (summer recruits in bold) :
Goalkeepers
1. Craig Gordon, 13. Darren Ward, 24. Trevor carson, 32. Marten Fulhop
Defenders
2. Greg Halford (On loan to Charlton for rest of season), 3. Ian Harte, 5.Nyron Nosworthy, 6. Paul MacShane, 14. Danny Higginbotham, 15. Danny Collins, 21. Russell Anderson (on loan to Plymouth Argyle for rest of season) 25. Jean Yves-Mvoto 26. Phil Bardsley, 27. Stanislav Varga(On loan to Burnley for rest of season), 29. Peter Hartley(Y) (On loan to Chesterfield for rest of season), 36. Gavin Donghue, 44. Johnny Evans (on loan)
Midfielders
4. Dickson Etuhu (Knee injury) 7. Carlos Edwards (http://www.safc.com/team/?page_id=2623&player_id=155), 8. Dean Whitehead, 10. Kieran Richardson, 12. Liam Miller (Out until March - calf), 18. Grant Leadbitter, 19. Dwight Yorke (http://www.safc.com/team/?page_id=2623&player_id=138), 20. Andy Reid 28. Graham Kavanagh, 33. Ross Wallace (Out for the season - knee ligaments
Forwards
9. Anthony Stokes, 11. Darryl Murphy, 16. Michael Chopra, 17. Kenwyne Jones (http://www.safc.com/team/?page_id=2623&player_id=174), 20. Andrew Cole (on loan to Burnley for rest of season), 23. Roy O' Donovan, 31. David Connolly 45.Rade Prica
Possible streams:
Audio Commentary :
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup= 35550
http://matchlive.safc.premiumtv.co.uk/mlex/258741/matches/10212007/2861244/match_console.html?clubid=10281
Matches and Fixtures:
Premier League
11/08 Sunderland v Tottenham, 1-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=12885&fixture=2846741&t=2) (Chopra 93')
Gordon-Whitehead(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Nosworthy-McShane-Wallace-
Edwards-Etuhu-Yorke(Miller57)-Richardson(Collins72)
-Murphy-Stokes(Chopra72).
Bench: Ward-Connolly.
SAFC MOTM McShane (48%) Nosworthy (18%) Chopra (15%)
15/08 Birmingham v Sunderland, 2-2 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=12921&fixture=2873792&t=2) (Chopra 75', John 90')
Gordon-Collins-Nosworthy-McShane-Halford(O'Donovan70)-
Edwards-Etuhu(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Whitehead(Miller58)-Wallace-
Connolly(John58)-Chopra.
Bench: Ward, Anderson
18/08 Wigan v Sunderland, 3-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=12956&fixture=2846819&t=2)
Gordon-Halford-Nosworthy-McShane(Anderson62)-Wallace-
Richardson-Etuhu-Yorke(Collins46)-Murphy-
Chopra-Stokes(Miller46).
Bench: John, Connolly.
SAFC MOTM Gordon (36%) Chopra (29%) McShane (14%)
25/08 Sunderland v Liverpool, 0-2 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13007&fixture=2846885&t=2)
Gordon-Halford-McShane-Nosworthy-Wallace-
Miller-Etuhu(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Yorke(Leadbitter61)-Richardson(Stokes20)-
Chopra-Murphy(Connolly78).
Bench: Ward, Anderson.
SAFC MOTM Gordon (71%) Chopra (12%) McShane (6%)
28/08 Luton v Sunderland (Carling Cup) 3-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13030&fixture=2882904&t=2)
Ward-Halford(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/redcard.gif)61-Wallace(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Nosworthy-Anderson-
Miller-Leadbitter-Etuhu(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)(O'Donovan62)-Murphy(Connolly62(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif))-
Chopra-Stokes(Yorke78).
Bench: Carson, Donoghue.
SAFC MOTM Murphy (38%) Stokes (27%) Nosworthy/Leadbitter/Whitehead (9%)
01/09 Man Utd v Sunderland 1-0
Gordon-Nosworthy-McShane-Higginbotham-Collins-
Leadbitter(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Yorke-Etuhu(Miller82)-Wallace(Stokes82)-
Chopra(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Jones(Murphy69).
Bench: Ward, Kay.
SAFC MOTM : Gordon (52%) Higginbotham (23%) Yorke (12%)
15/09 Sunderland v Reading, 2-1 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13165&fixture=2847041&t=2) (Jones 28', Wallace 46')
Gordon-Nosworthy-McShane-Higginbotham-Collins-
Leadbitter-Yorke-Etuhu(Miller82)-Wallace(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)(Stokes63)-
Chopra(Miller80)-Jones(Murphy82).
Bench: Ward, Halford.
SAFC MOTM : Jones (76%) Higgingbotham (10%) Wallace (9%)
22/09 Middlesborough v Sunderland 2-2 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13230&fixture=2847121&t=2) (Leadbitter 1', Miller 88')
Gordon-Halford-McShane-Higginbotham-Collins-
Leadbitter(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Yorke(Stokes67)-Etuhu(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)(Miller53(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif))-Wallace(O'Donovan76)-
Jones-Chopra(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif).
Bench: Ward, Harte.
SAFC MOTM : Leadbitter (44%), Miller (20%), Higginbotham (16%)
29/09 Sunderland v Blackburn 1-2 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13271&fixture=2847187&t=2) (Leadbitter89')
Gordon-McShane-Nosworthy-Higginbotham-Collins(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-
Leadbitter-Yorke(Murphy66)-Miller-Wallace(Connolly65)-
Chopra(O'Donovan66)-Jones.
Bench: Ward, Harte.
SAFC MOTM : Leadbitter (42%), Miller (21%), Collins (15%)
07/10 Arsenal v Sunderland 3-2 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13323&fixture=2861223&t=2) (Wallace 25', Jones 48')
Gordon-McShane(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/redcard.gif)-Nosworthy-Higginbotham-Collins-
Leadbitter-Miller-Wallace(Etuhu77)-Yorke(Harte90)-Chopra(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)(Stokes77)-
Jones(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif).
Bench: Ward, O'Donovan
SAFC MOTM : Miller (31%) Jones (30%) Yorke (16%)
21/10 West Ham v Sunderland 3-1 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13398&fixture=2861244&t=2) (Jones 52')
Gordon-Halford(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Nosworthy-Higginbotham-Collins(Harte80)-
O'Donovan(Chopra46)-Leadbitter(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Miller-Etuhu-Wallace(Stokes46)-
Jones.
Bench: Ward, Connolly.
SAFC MOTM : Kenwyne Jones (89%) Liam Miller (4%) Greg Halford (3%)
27/10 Sunderland v Fulham 1-1 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13459&fixture=2847462) (Jones86')
Gordon-Halford(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/redcard.gif)-Nosworthy-Higginbotham-Collins-
Leadbitter-Etuhu(Stokes61)-Miller-Wallace(Harte71)-
Jones-Chopra(Murphy61)
Bench: Ward, Connolly.
05/11 Man City v Sunderland 1-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13512&fixture=2861253&t=2)
Gordon-Nosworthy(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Higginbotham-Collins-Harte-
Stokes(Chopra58)-Miller-Etuhu-Leadbitter-Murphy(Wallace58)-
Jones.
Bench: Ward, Kavanagh, Connolly.
SAFC MOTM : Nyron Nosworthy (32%) Kenwyne Jones (15%) Grant Leadbitter (15%)
10/10 Sunderland v Newcastle, 1-1 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13574&fixture=2847627&t=2) (Higginbotham 52')
Gordon-McShane-Nosworthy(Collins25)-Higginbotham-Harte-
Edwards-Leadbitter-Etuhu-Wallace(Stokes72)-
Chopra(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Jones.
Bench: Ward, Miller, Connolly.
SAFC MOTM : Kenwyne Jones (31%) Grant Leadbitter (19%) Danny Higginbotham (17%)
24/11 Everton v Sunderland 7-1 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7099691.stm) (Yorke 45')
Gordon-McShane(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Higginbotham-Harte-Whitehead-
Edwards-Etuhu(Wallace45')-Yorke(Collins45)-Leadbitter-Chopra(Cole66')-
Jones
Bench : Ward, O Donovan
01/12 Sunderland v Derby, 1-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13714&fixture=2847757&t=3) (Stokes 90')
Ward-Halford-McShane-Higginbotham-Collins-
Edwards(Stokes78(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif))-Leadbitter(Miller83)-Whitehead-Wallace-
Jones-Cole(Chopra64).
Bench: Gordon, Harte.
08/12 Chelsea v Sunderland 2-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13759&fixture=2847832&t=2)
Ward-Halford-McShane-Higginbotham-Collins-
Miller(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/redcard.gif)-Leadbitter(Stokes70)-Etuhu-Whitehead-Wallace(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-
Jones(Murphy67).
Bench: Gordon, Yorke, Cole.
SAFC MOTM : Dickson Etuhu (23%) Darren Ward (20%) Paul McShane (17%)
15/12 Sunderland v Aston Villa 1-1 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7134148.stm) (Higginbotham 10')
Ward-Whitehead(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-McShane-Higginbotham-Collins-
Wallace(Cole83)-Etuhu(Leadbitter61)-Yorke(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Murphy-
Jones-Stokes(Chopra70).
Bench: Gordon, O'Donovan.
SAFC MOTM : Danny Collins (26%) Danny Higginbotham (25%) Dwight Yorke (18%)
22/12 Reading v Sunderland 2-1 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7145749.stm) (Chopra 81')
Gordon-Whitehead-McShane-Higginbotham-Collins-
Chopra(87Stokes)-Yorke-Leadbitter(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Murphy(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)(62Wallace),
Jones(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Cole(62Etuhu)
Bench: Ward, Harte.
SAFC MOTM : Craig Gordon (48%) Michael Chopra (17%) Danny Collins (16%)
26/12 Sunderland v Man Utd 0-4 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13861&fixture=2848036&t=2)
Gordon-Whitehead(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-McShane(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Higginbotham-Collins-
Wallace(Leadbitter46)-Etuhu-Yorke(Richardson 61)-Waghorn-
Jones-Chopra(O'Donovan 86).
Bench: Ward, Cole.
SAFC MOTM : Martyn Waghorn (42%) Craig Gordon (20%) Kenwyne Jones (15%)
29/12 Sunderland vs Bolton Wanderers 3-1 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13879&fixture=2848103) (Richardson 13', Jones 32', Murphy 90')
Gordon-Whitehead-McShane-Higginbotham-Collins-
Miller-Richardson(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)(O'Donovan70)-Etuhu-Chopra(Leadbitter46)-
Cole-(Murphy57)-Jones.
Bench: Ward, Waghorn.
SAFC MOTM : Kenwyne Jones (43%) Kieran Richardson (37%) Danny Collins (6%)
02/01 Blackburn Rovers vs Sunderland 1-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13900&fixture=2909122)
Gordon-Whitehead-McShane-Higginbotham(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Collins(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-
Miller-Yorke(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/redcard.gif)-Richardson(Waghorn82)-Wallace(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)(Cole82)-
Jones(Leadbitter46)-Murphy.
Bench: Ward, Kavanagh.
05/01 Sunderland vs Wigan 0-3 (http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13919) (FA Cup)
Gordon-McShane-Nosworthy-Evans-Collins-
O'Donovan-Whitehead(Leadbitter58)-Kavanagh-Richardson(Connolly74)-
Murphy-Waghorn(Cole58).
Bench: Fulop, Anderson.
SAFC MOTM : Kieran Richardson (21%) Roy O Donovan (20%) Other (19%)
13/01 Sunderland vs Portsmouth 2-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13964&fixture=2924211) (Richardson 33' 44')
Gordon-Whitehead-Nosworthy-Evans(McShane77)-Collins(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-
Stokes(Leadbitter73)-Miller-Yorke(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Richardson(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-
Jones(O'Donovan83)-Murphy.
Bench: Fulop, Cole.
SAFC MOTM : Kieran Richardson (45%) Kenwyne Jones (26%) Johnny Evans (8%)
19/01 Tottenham vs Sunderland
2-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14024&fixture=2848335)
Gordon-Nosworthy-McShane(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)(Cole75)-Collins-Evans-
Whitehead-Murphy-Miller-Yorke-Stokes(Chopra39(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif))-
Jones.
Bench: Fulop, Harte, O'Donovan.
29/01 Sunderland vs Birmingham
2-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14080&fixture=2848443) (Murphy 15', Prica 65')
Gordon-Bardsley-Nosworthy-Evans-Collins-
Whitehead-Miller-Yorke(Prica46(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif))-Murphy-
Stokes(O'Donovan 63)-Jones.
Bench: Fulop, McShane, Waghorn.
02/02 Liverpool vs Sunderland 3-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14113&fixture=2848488)
Gordon(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif))-Bardsley-Nosworthy-Evans-Collins-
Chopra(Waghorn83)-Whitehead-Miller(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif))-Richardson(Prica 7)(O'Donovan 55)-
Murphy-Jones.
Bench: Fulop, McShane.
09/02 Sunderland vs Wigan 2-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14161&fixture=2848549) (Etuhu 42', Murphy 75')
Gordon-Bardsley-Nosworthy-Evans-Collins-
O'Donovan(Prica 26)-Etuhu (Leadbitter 84)-Whitehead--Murphy-
Jones-Chopra (Reid 74)
Bench: Fulop, McShane.
SAFC MOTM : Craig Gordon (35%) Daryl Murphy (28%) Danny Collins(15%)
23/02 Portsmouth vs Sunderland
1-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14254&fixture=2848707)
Gordon-Bardsley-Nosworthy-Evans-Collins(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-
Whitehead-Leadbitter(Yorke79(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif))-Etuhu-Murphy(Prica 84)-Reid(Chopra 70)-
Jones.
Bench: Ward, McShane.
01/03 Derby vs Sunderland
0-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14308&fixture=2848777)
Gordon-Bardsley-Nosworthy-Evans-Higginbotham-
Chopra(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Whitehead-Reid(Leadbitter 66)-Richardson-
Jones-Murphy(Stokes80).
Bench: Fulop, McShane, Prica.
09/03 Sunderland vs Everton
0-1 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14377&fixture=2959717&t=1)
Gordon-Bardsley(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Evans-Nosworthy-Collins-
Richardson-Leadbitter(Prica75)-Whitehead(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Stokes(Chopra46)-
Murphy(Reid 67)-Jones.
Bench: Fulop, McShane.
15/03 Sunderland vs Chelsea
0-1 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14432&fixture=2848962)
Gordon-Bardsley-Evans-Nosworthy-Collins-
Edwards(Prica62)-O'Donovan(Yorke73)-Whitehead-Leadbitter(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)(Harte85)-Reid-
Jones.
Bench: Fulop, McShane.
SAFC MOTM : Phil Bardsley (33%) Johnny Evans (19%) Nyron Nosworthy(16%)
22/03 Aston Villa vs Sunderland
0-1 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14476&fixture=2849022) (Chopra 83')
Gordon-Bardsley(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Evans-Nosworthy-Collins-
Edwards(Leadbitter67)-Whitehead-Richardson-Reid-
O'Donovan(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)(Chopra59)-Murphy(Yorke87).
Bench: Fulop, Prica.
29/03 Sunderland vs West Ham 2-1 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14526&fixture=2849121) (Jones 28', Reid 90')
Gordon-Bardsley-Nosworthy-Evans-Collins-
Murphy(O'Donovan81(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif))-Whitehead-Reid(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Richardson(Edwards70)-
Chopra(Leadbitter71)-Jones.
Bench: Fulop, Yorke.
SAFC MOTM: Andy Reid : 34% Craig Gordon 14% Nyron Nosworthy 13%
05/04 Fulham vs Sunderland
1-3 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14587&fixture=2849184&t=2) (Collins 44', Chopra 53', Jones 75')
Gordon-Bardsley-Evans-Nosworthy-Collins-
Edwards(Chopra45)-Whitehead-Reid-Richardson(Leadbitter 56)-Murphy(O Donovan 86)-
Jones
Bench:Fulop, Higginbotham.
12/04 Sunderland vs Man City 1-2 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14630&fixture=2849255&t=2) (Whitehead 82')
Gordon-Bardsley(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Nosworthy(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Evans-Collins-
Chopra(O'Donovan79)-Whitehead(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Reid-Richardson(Leadbitter 46)-
Jones-Murphy(Edwards62).
Bench: Fulop, McShane.
SAFC MOTM: Dean Whitehead : 28% Andy Reid 17% Phil Bardsley 13%
19/04 Newcastle vs Sunderland 2-0
Gordon-McShane(Harte 87)-Nosworthy-Higginbotham-Collins
Edwards(Richardson 58)-Whitehead-Miller-Reid-
Murphy(Chopra 80)-Jones.
Bench: Fulop, Leadbitter.
26/04 Sunderland vs Middlesborough 3-2 (Higginbotham 6', Chopra 45', Murphy, 90')
Gordon-Whitehead(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)-Nosworthy-Higginbotham-Collins
Edwards(Leadbitter 60)-Reid-Miller-Richardson(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)
Chopra(http://www.socawarriors.net/football/images/yellowcard.gif)(Murphy 85)-Jones.
Bench: Fulop, Harte, Prica.
SAFC MOTM: Michael Chopra 46% Kenwyne Jones 21% Andy Reid 11%
02/05 Bolton vs Sunderland 2-0
Gordon-Nosworthy(Murphy61)-Higginbotham-Evans-Collins
Miller(Leadbitter 61)-Whitehead-Reid-Richardson-
Chopra(O'Donovan 62)-Jones.
Bench: Fulop, Yorke.
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nice thread breds.
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http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/
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this is another internet tv player from
tvunetworks.com
you can catch gol tv here, high speed only though
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Yeah Midknight nice work, good way to keep up to date with Sunderland
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giv thanks 4 d link, bt i eh hav no audio...whaiz da 1?
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No sound...buh Stern starting...
damn, meh boss makin meh, an season ent even start yet..if she was younger ah woulda pelt ah hard tackle...oh well, leave some updates please ppl.
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It was announced beforehand, and he just got a shot off on a half chance. Nice try.
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another link for video.
http://www.safc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/newWorld/Home/0,,10281,00.html
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another link for video.
http://www.safc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/newWorld/Home/0,,10281,00.html
It not expensive but you still have to pay for that man. Better off saving yuh money ona road trip...
Sunderland looking short ah ideas going forward and they defenders playing around too much with the ball in the back. What division does Cork play in?
They playing some serious yard man football.
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Stern that half volley was made fo you. If you had put it in instead of blazing it overbars all now so yuh wont ah even feel the knock the defender put down on yuh >:(
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them defenders real like to dribble, all kinda sidestepping men in the 18 yard box and ting.
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is Yorke and Carlos playing?
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is Yorke and Carlos playing?
Carlos on the bench, Ithink Dwight playing (number 4) and he looking real damn impressive.
However Cork shoulda be up 1 on a breakaway, but the man with acres of space and time to bang it in completely misjudge his shot. and send it wide/high
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is Yorke and Carlos playing?
Yorke and Stern started; Carlos on de bench.
From safc.com:
Sunderland should have taken the lead as early as the first minute when Yorke's touch put John clean through but he screwed his shot wide.
Yorke had a shot charged down from outside the area in the 11th minute after good work by Whitehead.
Another chance went begging for John in the 36th minute. This time he fired it over on the turn from 10 yards after he got it from Leadbitter.
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Stern set up a man nice nice with a header, go round he defender, get back the ball and them aim for the upper deck. Wasn't a serious chance but oh god man, at least shoot the ball on target. That is 3.
Half Time
Globally Sunderland are the more technical team. After 15-20 minutes they start playing some real ball.
Dwight handling it like a boss, running down man, launching the attacks, muscling man off ball, everything. Whoever Sunderland have running it on the left side (number 11) not cutting it. The few times they gone down the right, they look good, but the ball usually cut out fast by the Cork defence.
Stern get one nice half chance that he obtain heself, drag it wide, muscle a defender off a bouncing ball and get a clear shot, hit it overbars, and then decide to try a bullet outside the area and break one ah papa god window. He working hard and cork seriously manhandling him, but if he miss ah next one so he going to get bench right away.
Richardson need to come in on the left and they need to stop relying on the go to the wing and cross strategy so much
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Alright thanks for the info and updates fellers. Appreciated
Stern have to bury dem chances man...I getting too used to seeing "should have scored" nex to his name in match reports. He have to take advantage of these pre-season games against amateur defenses to prove he worth taking to the EPL
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Dem fans on dat Sunderland board real hate Stern, boy.
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Stern needs to take onn the defence at least a little bit, he should stop playing that opportunist brand and play more attacking football.BC the way them men marking him he ain't gonna get a decent shot off,plus he need to impress in order to stay, hope he get a piece of the 2nd half.
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Stern just posted up and tried the Stern Turn, but a bit too off blance. 4 and counting
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sunland knocking ball up front this half
Stern needs to be more balanced on the turn when he shooting. always overbars
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nah, but the wholme team plying lala once they cross the half line...
I ent know what happen to them
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but wait nah, Stern head the ball down for the man on the next team to slap it home!!!
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nah, but the wholme team plying lala once they cross the half line...
I ent know what happen to them
And just as a say that, they concede a goal ona corner. ball look like it come of dwight and land perfect for 2 Cork players,a dn one ah them smash it in
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Keane make 3 subs, Richardson come on, and look like Stern get sub for a man wearing the number 14 :'(
Confirmation,
Muphy on for John
Richardson on for Leadbitter
Stokes on for Connolly
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Carlos on for Halford
Donaghue on for Kay
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IS not only Stern nah, dem fellas profligate in front of goal...like they does train with Rugby posts. Ah think the only shot on target was Richardon own right after he come on that the keeper parry over
and of course, as i say dat, ah miss de goal ::)
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Dem fans on dat Sunderland board real hate Stern, boy.
Ah tink dem men even outdo Disgruntled_Trini yes:
KEV_SAFC_FTM
stern john is f**king hopeless. No way will he cut it in the Prem (regardless of tonight's friendly).
ronro
Stern John, now there's a waste of space. Another F'ing missed sitter
superbrian
another bad miss by John -thats 3 chances he has missed in irish friendlies
cockneymackem
What does Keane see in Stern John?
I can't work it out? Surely starting Stokes or Chopra would have been a better idea.
burchmackem
John most probably won't be at the squad much longer
mark1em4rk
stern john is slowing the game up every time he gets it......he is shite
Pacific
ffs Stern John
sexymuffin
haha he looks canny fat, he is total shite
Millfield_Mackem
John really is shit
BOYCEY
stern johns a f**king joke what does keane see in him that i cant
YorkMackem
The pitch is not helping and Connelly, Leadbitter and John are very poor.
Teed
I wish he`d f**k off!!!!!!
Deggsy
I agree Stern John & Dwight Yorke are being played out of position, they both should be in the sitting position on the bus out of here.
everstar
stern john is a plank, but is still playing better than connelly, as he's actually had some shots to balloon over the bar
Boot Cleaner
Strikers wont have a pop and when they do it usually Stern John who has the touch of an elephant and is utter gash.
Michael Heathcote
stern john isn't even useful backup
Pacific
f**king hell Johns done it again
thats 4 f**king sitters in 2 game
wisemensay
Stern John is so embarrassing its starting to become hysterically amusing
Millfield_Mackem
Is John a striker?
OohBaldyBally
I must be honest, I'd be ower the moon if Stern John never plays for us again
Stiv Bators
Get John off, Roy.
If this is the shop window, he'll be in the bargain basement next year.
Deggsy
There is being unlucky and then their is just being shite!!
Pacific
any neutral watching will be pissing themselves laughing at John
infact i am anarl, its so bad its funny
mark1em4rk
its official..stern john is shiiiiite
sonofamackem
Johns shit, Passing is piss poor and i need a drink.
andrewcoates77
FFS! - Stern John
WHY WHY WHY WHY
Please Hull come buy him!
Boot Cleaner
Paniiiiiiiiiiiiiiic. Stern f**king John again
Millfield_Mackem
John is shit, please leave
ronro
"John back helping"....is he f**k, he's given the ball away
Boot Cleaner
Thanks f**k he has gone off!
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The prognosis does not sound too inviting for Stern.Is it time for him to pull up sails and look to the MLS: Toronto F.C.??????
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guess thats y players stay away from forums
that is plenty pepper
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That English 'prima Donna' league could be unforgiving. Time to move on...... ehehe whey 'Berris' these days?
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Ah tink dem men even outdo Disgruntled_Trini yes:
Deggsy
I agree Stern John & Dwight Yorke are being played out of position, they both should be in the sitting position on the bus out of here.
everstar
stern john is a plank, but is still playing better than connelly, as he's actually had some shots to balloon over the bar
Boot Cleaner
Strikers wont have a pop and when they do it usually Stern John who has the touch of an elephant and is utter gash.
Millfield_Mackem
Is John a striker?
Stiv Bators
Get John off, Roy.
If this is the shop window, he'll be in the bargain basement next year.
(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5262/damnfridaypf3.jpg)
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Well done Midnight :beermug:
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Dem fans on dat Sunderland board real hate Stern, boy.
Ah tink dem men even outdo Disgruntled_Trini yes:
This is all very harsh. Dwight probably had the best match of all the Sunderland players on the field from the start.
Stern was poor in finishing but his hustle in defense and his work in relaying to his strike partener were quite good. Plus only one of those four chances can be considered sitters,and it was one that he created out of nothing by outmuscling his marker. The other three were half chances at best.
Connolly was non existent in the shooting department and anyone who tried (mostly among the subs - murphy, richardson) and leadbitter i think were all afflicted by the same disease. I didn't see the Sunderland goal, but I think everyone would agree that it was a poor performance all around.
Even Carlos was awful on the few crosses he put in after coming on.
Stern may have just consigned himself to the bench, but only because his physical and less technical style of recent times works better against tiring defences and being a target man is always frustrating whenever you're double or tripled mark every time you get the ball.
Also, that young fella Keane put in as a left back make me afraid every time he had the ball...
I think its a match to forget
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My suggestion is that anything that doesn't have to do with a specific match should be posted here i.e. transfer rumours, signings and sales, ole talk, fan evaluations, injury news, manager quotes, statistics and the works.
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good stuff,effort greatly appreciated ..............and who says boredom doesnt motivate postively ::) ;D
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The prognosis does not sound too inviting for Stern.Is it time for him to pull up sails and look to the MLS: Toronto F.C.??????
::)
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F#ck them sh!t snake english players and fans, stern game was not that awful. they should also blame the play makers, or have they any at all. sunderland for the most part looked pretty medioca, so don't blame one man, cause i ain't see no other english player do any better. stern is a sub player and if they want to get the best out stern then they need to play him in the last quarter of the game. i am not saying this BC i am a trini, but it would be a big mistake if they got rid of him.
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That English 'prima Donna' league could be unforgiving. Time to move on...... ehehe whey 'Berris' these days?
I right here ......them asswipes from sunderland sounding like it had another striker was blazing d net 2nite ...so becuz ah bunch ah c0ck s@ckers from sunderland want to talk shite on dey forum dah means is 'Time to move on' ...yuh eh see you is ah imps ...steuuppppps ..as far as I concern Sunderland win one pre season match so far and is who was d goal scorer again ? refreshen meh memory nah ..... ''whey Berris these days'' ?
I right here, me eh gorn ah place ..one thing ah notice thought is you still stinking up this forum with yuh bamcee drippin comments, buh say wha yuh eh know better.
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Berris,
Ah know yuh would not disappoint when it comes to insults. I merely called upon you to defend the honour of Mr.John. Instead yuh come with yuh public insulting ways.
I never came out and said mr. John is not deserving of a place on the team. I simply reacted to the negative press and asked if it was time to move on from what appears as a hostile situation, yet you saw a target to displace and hurl your insults. Welcome back Berris. Yuh feel better, to lash out at someone?
Seeing that yuh like using 'bottom line' analogies, the bottom line is that it does not matter my opinion or those of the fans, in the long run is what the man contributes to the team and his play on the field. That is what the focus ought to be on. Could yuh defend that?
keep on fighting and defend yuh honour above all costs!!!!
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Allowed to curse for this one:
f**k OFF STERN LEGEND 14 JOHN HATERS
When the man do his thing and save dey f..... arses next season then i want to hear them
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Dem men on de Sunderland board eh know that is only de tip of de iceberg.
Imagine supportin Stern for years!
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Berris,
Ah know yuh would not disappoint when it comes to insults. I merely called upon you to defend the honour of Mr.John. Instead yuh come with yuh public insulting ways.
I never came out and said mr. John is not deserving of a place on the team. I simply reacted to the negative press and asked if it was time to move on from what appears as a hostile situation, yet you saw a target to displace and hurl your insults. Welcome back Berris. Yuh feel better, to lash out at someone?
Seeing that yuh like using 'bottom line' analogies, the bottom line is that it does not matter my opinion or those of the fans, in the long run is what the man contributes to the team and his play on the field. That is what the focus ought to be on. Could yuh defend that?
keep on fighting and defend yuh honour above all costs!!!!
Like I said 'bamcee drippings'' is exactly what yuh talkin ''Could you defend that' ? ...what is there to defend here ? seems like yuh just trying to latch on to de sunderland fans nuts...as far as I see Stern has scored the only goal out of the strikers sunderland have,he has missed goals also but who else is putting themselves in the position to get those opportunities ? ......ah cyar hear yuh.
You feel I care bout them lowlife asswipes on the sunderland board that want to hate Stern,me eh give a fook bout them and all ah dem haters like yourself cud kiss my baxide .
You call it whatever yuh want, you call it 'insults' but I call it 'opinion'
and in my opinion Stern better than any ah dem strikers, and will score more goals than any ah dem if he gets the same amount of playing time.
You call meh out ....'whey Berris' ? ....and now yuh vex with meh response,
steuppppps yuh eh see u really have nuttin to say and just bumping yuh gum as usual ....
OH and to answer your question... d answer is NO is not time for Stern to pack up and head to the mls ... not becuz some punks from sunderland and u think is time, dat means #14 shud obliged.D man prove many ah all yuh wrong before and u and dem konts on the sunderland forum will be proven to be just another set ah waste ah time doubtin haters . Hate on
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Dem men on de Sunderland board eh know that is only de tip of de iceberg.
Imagine supportin Stern for years!
Anyone ''supportin Stern for years '' by now shud know exactly how to celebrate alot of brilliant goals ........dais wha yuh mean right ? ;D
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Berris,
Say what yuh like; it's your opinion. Yuh eh have nutting tuh prove tuh me. Yuh eh know me and me doh have the same opinion as any sunderland fan. I made soem comments but as usual yuh have tuh come in here like yuh have a'chip on yuh shoulder' steups..... you eh have ah chip you sounding off like you have awhole lumber yard on yuh shoulder.
Keep on keeping on and may you continue to find the back of the net and prove eveyone wrong or right depending on the fence people are standing on.
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Dem fans on dat Sunderland board real hate Stern, boy.
Ah tink dem men even outdo Disgruntled_Trini yes:
KEV_SAFC_FTM
stern john is f**king hopeless. No way will he cut it in the Prem (regardless of tonight's friendly).
ronro
Stern John, now there's a waste of space. Another F'ing missed sitter
superbrian
another bad miss by John -thats 3 chances he has missed in irish friendlies
cockneymackem
What does Keane see in Stern John?
I can't work it out? Surely starting Stokes or Chopra would have been a better idea.
burchmackem
John most probably won't be at the squad much longer
mark1em4rk
stern john is slowing the game up every time he gets it......he is shite
Pacific
ffs Stern John
sexymuffin
haha he looks canny fat, he is total shite
Millfield_Mackem
John really is shit
BOYCEY
stern johns a f**king joke what does keane see in him that i cant
YorkMackem
The pitch is not helping and Connelly, Leadbitter and John are very poor.
Teed
I wish he`d f**k off!!!!!!
Deggsy
I agree Stern John & Dwight Yorke are being played out of position, they both should be in the sitting position on the bus out of here.
everstar
stern john is a plank, but is still playing better than connelly, as he's actually had some shots to balloon over the bar
Boot Cleaner
Strikers wont have a pop and when they do it usually Stern John who has the touch of an elephant and is utter gash.
Michael Heathcote
stern john isn't even useful backup
Pacific
f**king hell Johns done it again
thats 4 f**king sitters in 2 game
wisemensay
Stern John is so embarrassing its starting to become hysterically amusing
Millfield_Mackem
Is John a striker?
OohBaldyBally
I must be honest, I'd be ower the moon if Stern John never plays for us again
Stiv Bators
Get John off, Roy.
If this is the shop window, he'll be in the bargain basement next year.
Deggsy
There is being unlucky and then their is just being shite!!
Pacific
any neutral watching will be pissing themselves laughing at John
infact i am anarl, its so bad its funny
mark1em4rk
its official..stern john is shiiiiite
sonofamackem
Johns shit, Passing is piss poor and i need a drink.
andrewcoates77
FFS! - Stern John
WHY WHY WHY WHY
Please Hull come buy him!
Boot Cleaner
Paniiiiiiiiiiiiiiic. Stern f**king John again
Millfield_Mackem
John is shit, please leave
ronro
"John back helping"....is he f**k, he's given the ball away
Boot Cleaner
Thanks f**k he has gone off!
As far as I concern dem sunderland fans on that forum that hatin Stern is ah bunch ah bastard children who eh even know dey fadda , But i have some advice for them... they cud all line up in an orderly fashion and take turns in SUKKIN MY DICK ... I really supprise that this was even copied and pasted.I find dah kind ah ignorance shud stay with dem on they forum.
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Eh berris , i agree wid most of what yuh say. when ppl talk out of timmin yuh have to put them back in they place. how the F# they go dis we star like that, after he help them to the prem. i agree, F# them!!
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Ok did not check all 63 pages ::) ,but the comments posted from there board ,are mostly made by ppl who sign up end of last year and this year .It have a word for that ,but ah tink it banned ;D .Some body made this comment and got these respones from the senior members
mark1em4rk
Subs Bench
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stern john broken leg....get in
AB22 Easy Tiger
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Idiot
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stern john broken leg....get in
Idiot
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stern john broken leg....get in
poor comment that, like
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stern john broken leg....get in
Pathetic
Yesterday, 08:26 PM #166
Pacific
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stern john broken leg....get in
f**k off you tit
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except this guy ,but he was funny
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I disagree, I like the Stern
Aye but what does your guide dog think?
Town End Farmer Giles
Striker
Join Date: Sep 2002
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stern john broken leg....get in
f**k off.
Anyway my point being not all the ole posters diss him today . Them new poster getting real nervous ,but the team looking revamped ,I hope they did not lose there chemistry .
Oh check this tred where a guy who joined in april ,disses Yorke and Stern ,looked how ppl defended even Stern .That board getting very popular every body has an opinion and a ********
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=254157
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Cats find goal to get out of gaol
Jul 31 2007
by Stuart Rayner, The Journal (Newcastle)
WITH its star-shaped Charles Fort and imposing gaol, the city of Cork is well equipped to coping with sieges, but if the Rebel Army were bracing themselves for another determined rearguard action last night they needn’t have worried.
On Friday the Cork fans watched their side scrap for a 1-1 draw at St Patrick’s Athletic, Denis Behan grabbing an equaliser for the nine men with three minutes left.
But on a night when Sunderland’s reserves were given a chance to impress and totally failed to do so, another goal from Behan had Sunderland scrambling to save face. Corkman Liam Miller’s solo goal 15 minutes from time achieved that, but it was little wonder the excellent home fans were signing, “Can we play you every week?”
Unlike on Saturday, when he suddenly became interested in Cork striker Roy O’Donovan, there was no change of heart from Roy Keane, who gave those not involved against Bohemians a start as promised. Of the team which began the game in Dublin, only Greg Halford featured from the start at Turner’s Cross. Shotley Bridge-born right-back Michael Kay was handed his full first-team debut on the opposite side of the defence to normal.
The youngster had a quiet game – no bad thing for a defender – his only involvement of note being clattered by Bosnian Admir Softic.
While most in red-and-white were largely anonymous, Stern John could have been forgiven for wishing his night’s work had gone unnoticed. The scorer of the only goal against the Bohs produced so many bad misses the fans behind the goal were struggling to think of different ways to abuse him.
The players were still feeling their way into the game when Dwight Yorke touched Dean Whitehead’s header to his former international team-mate and the Trinidadian’s reaction touched it wide.
When Grant Leadbitter, playing on the left of midfield, crossed the ball in, John’s miss was so embarrassing he lay on the turf afterwards awaiting treatment. He chested the centre down well but the attempted volley squirmed off his boot.
Other misses followed, one in first-half injury time, a Kay cross which hit him and a third in the 51st minute. But what completed his nightmare was Behan’s opener.
A corner from former Sunderland midfielder Colin Healy came straight at the striker, whose attempt to deal with it simply played it into Behan’s path. He lashed the ball in off the crossbar. It was an act of mercy when he was substituted seven minutes later.
The Black Cats were given a let-off two minutes from time by the man dubbed the ‘Conna Maradona’, Liam Kearney. Colin O’Brien swung at Leon McSweeney’s cross and failed to make contact, allowing Conna-born Liam Kearney to poke wide.
There were no changes in personnel at half-time but a notable increase in urgency which suggested harsh words had been spoken during the break. But while Leadbitter (three times), Kay and Miller all got shots in, the accuracy was no better.
When Behan put his side in front it only ratcheted up the volume on the terraces, the crowd asked the away dugout, “Keano, what’s the score?”. Holding both hands out, there was perhaps some sincerity in his mock bemusement. Keane showed his unhappiness with five substitutions. By the time the changes were complete Carlos Edwards had entered the fray at right-back, perhaps a sign of Keane’s eagerness to save face.
Miller, now switched to the centre, did that for him when he dribbled through the middle and smacked the ball in. By then substitutes Kieran Richardson and Anthony Stokes had both added their names to the long list of offenders in front of goal. Of all the features of this tour of Ireland, Sunderland’s profligacy has been the most prominent and disturbing. They will need to rectify it at Galway United tomorrow.
CORK CITY (4-4-2): McNulty; Horgan, Cillian Lordan, Murray, Ryan; Softic, O’Brien, Healy, McSweeney; Kearney, Behan. Not used: O’Callaghan, Daly, Kelly, Meyler, Cathal Lordan, Lally, Devine.
Booked: Softic.
Goal: Behan 57.
SUNDERLAND (4-4-2): Ward; Halford, Anderson, Collins, Kay; Miller, Whitehead, Yorke Leadbitter (K Richardson 64); John (Stokes 64), Connolly (Murphy 64). Not used: Chopra, Fulop, Nosworthy, McShane, Edwards, Donaghue.
Booked: Miller.
Goal: Miller 75.
Referee: Alan Kelly.
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well let dem SFC fans tell Keano to sell Stern.....me eh care bout dem.....Mr Stern John took me to "The Promised Land".....
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I keep saying it if they want to get rid of John they need to bring in Kenwayne Jones
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Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland draw with Cork City
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12779
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"I was very happy with the team's performance. Maybe not in the first half, but in the second.
"Again it was an ideal game for us in terms of our preparation and where we're heading.
"I'm delighted with the players again; their attitude was spot on. We've enjoyed it and we move on to Galway.
"I spoke the players at half-time and encouraged them to enjoy it. They didn't seem to be enjoying the first half but they did in the second.
"We encourage players to go out and express themselves and they didn't do it in the first half.
"They relaxed and enjoyed it after the break and we had plenty of chances. I'm delighted for Liam [Miller], he played particularly well. And being from Cork, it was nice to see him score, he's a very good player.
"Sometimes it takes a while to get the legs going and we did improve as the game went on.
"The players' attitude since we came back to training has been spot on and I'm delighted. It's been a hectic few weeks for us but they kept going tonight.
"Within 30 second of the second half starting we had two shots on target so clearly the players picked up on the message at half-time.
"When you come back to Cork it is always hectic but in a nice way. The people are enthusiastic and they want to get close to the players, it's part and parcel.
"We appreciate it. Even driving into the ground tonight we saw the queue. People are spending their hard-earned money to come and watch you.
"We also appreciate that a lot of fans have come over from Sunderland.
"The League of Ireland is very, very good. The players know how to tackle, their fitness levels have improved unbelievably in the last few years and we knew it was going to be a difficult game.
"We were disappionted to go a goal behind but I was delighted with the players' reaction. We had more than enough chances, that would be the disappointing part, same as the other night. But the sharpness in front of goal will come with more games.
"There are always mixed results in pre-season, sometimes it is dangerous if you win every game, you go into the season thinking you are flying.
"I couldn't be happier. The players are giving it all for the club. We'll be ready for Spurs, there's no doubt in my mind about that."
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I think for Stern it is a case of trying too hard. He wants to score so badly that he's "rushing" his opportunities.
Give it some time. At least, I hope Keno will contiue to give him the run out on the field so he can settle in.
Though, tbh, at this stage in his career, he shouldn't be having no start-of-season jitters. Oh well.
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Dem men on de Sunderland board eh know that is only de tip of de iceberg.
Imagine supportin Stern for years!
boy!! dat is how I feel... dem fellas feel dey get heartache.. dey dont know is Victor Newman himself dey messin with dey. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Dem men on de Sunderland board eh know that is only de tip of de iceberg.
Imagine supportin Stern for years!
boy!! dat is how I feel... dem fellas feel dey get heartache.. dey dont know is Victor Newman himself dey messin with dey. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Boy yuh know how long meh eh hear bout de Young & Restless! :rotfl:
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rumour:
Sunderland have rejoined the race to sign Manchester United striker Alan Smith. (The Sun)
keano chasing another man u castaway.
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More peeps dat eh like Stern so what. BM boi all of us went to the promise land because ah no 14. Let dem cuss
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They bagging on Stern....that whole game was shite. At least he had the belly to take those half chances. Let them get rid of him, Kean will be coaching in the Championship again next season. No way ichardson can see them through. Plus I would like to see who will marshall the midfield if not Yorke. Playing Cork and playing Man U is two different ball game. Let dem haul dey arse.
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Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland draw with Cork City
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12779
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"I was very happy with the team's performance. Maybe not in the first half, but in the second.
"Again it was an ideal game for us in terms of our preparation and where we're heading.
"I'm delighted with the players again; their attitude was spot on. We've enjoyed it and we move on to Galway.
"I spoke the players at half-time and encouraged them to enjoy it. They didn't seem to be enjoying the first half but they did in the second.
"We encourage players to go out and express themselves and they didn't do it in the first half.
"They relaxed and enjoyed it after the break and we had plenty of chances. I'm delighted for Liam [Miller], he played particularly well. And being from Cork, it was nice to see him score, he's a very good player.
"Sometimes it takes a while to get the legs going and we did improve as the game went on.
"The players' attitude since we came back to training has been spot on and I'm delighted. It's been a hectic few weeks for us but they kept going tonight.
"Within 30 second of the second half starting we had two shots on target so clearly the players picked up on the message at half-time.
"When you come back to Cork it is always hectic but in a nice way. The people are enthusiastic and they want to get close to the players, it's part and parcel.
"We appreciate it. Even driving into the ground tonight we saw the queue. People are spending their hard-earned money to come and watch you.
"We also appreciate that a lot of fans have come over from Sunderland.
"The League of Ireland is very, very good. The players know how to tackle, their fitness levels have improved unbelievably in the last few years and we knew it was going to be a difficult game.
"We were disappionted to go a goal behind but I was delighted with the players' reaction. We had more than enough chances, that would be the disappointing part, same as the other night. But the sharpness in front of goal will come with more games.
"There are always mixed results in pre-season, sometimes it is dangerous if you win every game, you go into the season thinking you are flying.
"I couldn't be happier. The players are giving it all for the club. We'll be ready for Spurs, there's no doubt in my mind about that."
This is a sign of a class manager ;D Never talk down your players in public....but you know in the locker room is :cursing: in dey tail ;D
Big Up!
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ent weary...
LETS SHOW STERN SOME SUPPORT 14 we should be defending our legendary player from the mouths of these kick and run shithongs.......this is not norville or shakes yuh know (with all due respect)
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b]LETS SHOW STERN SOME SUPPORT 14[/b] we should be defending our legendary player from the mouths of these kick and run shithongs.......this is not norville or shakes yuh know (with all due respect)
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b]LETS SHOW STERN SOME SUPPORT 14[/b] we should be defending our legendary player from the mouths of these kick and run shithongs.......this is not norville or shakes yuh know (with all due respect)
:applause: :applause: VERY WELL SAID...
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(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/jul_07/safc_1185872946_dwight-yorke2.jpg)
(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/jul_07/safc_1185872934_dwight-yorke.jpg)
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Injury problems surface for Keane
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane took part in Sunderland's first training session in Galway today - to make up the numbers.
A group of players missed the session because of injuries, prompting Keane to take part. "I'm first on the reserve list," he said.
Carlos Edwards (groin), Ross Wallace (groin), Stanislav Varga (knee), Kieran Richardson (groin) and Liam Miller (dead-leg) are all unlikely to feature against Galway United tomorrow night.
Keane said: "We picked up a few knocks against Cork last night and there are a few tired legs so I'll make changes. It is very hard for the players to play two matches in two days.
"We have five or six injuries. We'll see how training goes today and go from there."
Sunderland have had two good tests so far on tour, against Bohemians and Cork City.
Keane said: "The tackles have been flying in but the players have enjoyed that.
"I don't know if you ever play friendly matches. You always have that edge and you always want to do well for yourself, your team and your fans.
"It wasn't too much of a friendly last night and I hope Galway isn't. We want a competitive match."
I wonder if that's the same injury he had a couple weks ago ?
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But wha de ass is dis?!
I now checking out Sky Sports premiership pages, and of course check out Sunderland's homepage there. You know they eh have Carlos listed in the squad!!!!!! They have Yorke, they have Stern, but no Carlos! I hope that site incomplete and they still working on it.
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But wha de ass is dis?!
I now checking out Sky Sports premiership pages, and of course check out Sunderland's homepage there. You know they eh have Carlos listed in the squad!!!!!! They have Yorke, they have Stern, but no Carlos! I hope that site incomplete and they still working on it.
When you want real information, check the bbc.
Doh study it. That is all part of the plan. By the time all dem so call big side collect 5 or 10 bullet in dey tail dey go be wondering who dis 'mystery man' is and whey he come out from - and how come they ent know bout him ;)
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Nice one Midknight , but ah want yuh tuh highlight Everton in yuh fixtures too. Yuh hear !!
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Nice one Midknight , but ah want yuh tuh highlight Everton in yuh fixtures too. Yuh hear !!
Sorry man...Champions league and the northern derby only... Either come better than last year or relocate. Ah have a feeling relocating might be easier, but is up to alyuh to see ;D
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Gallaway versus Sunderland.
Unlike against Cork, Sunderland looks good going forward, up in the 15th minute or so, Chopra lob the keeper from outside the area on a slick counter attack.
Team news:
Roy Keane said he would use Sunderland's last game in Ireland to field a side that would resemble something like his strting line-up against Spurs in the Premier League in 10 days.
Marton Fulop was preferred to Darren Ward in goal and there were starts for Ross Wallace at left-back and Dickson Etuhu in midfield.
From the team, only Dean Whitehead and Greg Halford survived from the line-up at Cork City.
Galway, who have not won here all season and are in a relegation battle in the eircom Premier League, decided to name two teams - one for each half - before kick-off.
Terryland Park was full to its 5,000 capacity in the evening sunshine here in Galway.
You can watch the game live on SAFC TV from 8pm. Click here for more.
Teams:
Sunderland: Fulop, Halford, Nosworthy, McShane, Wallace, Stokes, Whitehead, Etuhu, Richardson, Chopra, Murphy. Subs: Ward, Collins, Varga, Miller, Leadbitter, Connolly, John.
Carlos injured and look like Yorke and Stern will be benching for the beginning off the season :-[
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Gallaway versus Sunderland.
Unlike against Cork, Sunderland looks good going forward, up in the 15th minute or so, Chopra lob the keeper from outside the area on a slick counter attack.
Team news:
Roy Keane said he would use Sunderland's last game in Ireland to field a side that would resemble something like his strting line-up against Spurs in the Premier League in 10 days.
Marton Fulop was preferred to Darren Ward in goal and there were starts for Ross Wallace at left-back and Dickson Etuhu in midfield.
From the team, only Dean Whitehead and Greg Halford survived from the line-up at Cork City.
Galway, who have not won here all season and are in a relegation battle in the eircom Premier League, decided to name two teams - one for each half - before kick-off.
Terryland Park was full to its 5,000 capacity in the evening sunshine here in Galway.
You can watch the game live on SAFC TV from 8pm. Click here for more.
Teams:
Sunderland: Fulop, Halford, Nosworthy, McShane, Wallace, Stokes, Whitehead, Etuhu, Richardson, Chopra, Murphy. Subs: Ward, Collins, Varga, Miller, Leadbitter, Connolly, John.
Carlos injured and look like Yorke and Stern will be benching for the beginning off the season :-[
Yeah. Etuhu snatch up Dwighty spot.
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Link for Sunderland game - Working but no audio.
http://www.tg4.tv/
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Dwight comes on at half time for Etuhu. Time to make yourself look good
56' Richardson just score one boss goal. nice counter, catch the ball running, bring it down gently to foo the defender running back, control, run into the bow and blast it.
And ah was just thinking how he have so much pace and no control...
62' Mcshane, nosworthy, varga and richardson off
64' look like the new defenders cold. great save by the keeper fulop on a one on one
68' Gallaway just throw way a goal on the penalty spot with only the keeper to beat.
Game is very fast paced - end to end stuff. Gallaway playing 2 different teams per half so is normal they not tired. Sunderland players looking fit as well though
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sTERN ON
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Is Dwight playing within himself or he is he unfit? Seems to be taking a slower than normal pace on the game...
Stern fuh set up play!!
# 18 does it again!
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nice hustle to recover the errant cross and great assist on the third goal by Stern, wearing number 18
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:o wow, nice move by stern and ah even sweeter chip pass to assist in that goal..ah did not know he had that in him ;D
Big Up!
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well stern if yuh cya score dem den set dem
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followed by a goal !!
he could do both ah them mukumsplau :devil:
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doh worry, he now put down ah nice 1-2 with ah man and score ah nice goal too :applause:
Big Up!
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sterrrrrrrrrrrnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I like the work ethic ah seeing
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I eh seeing the game but I like what I hearing. Good going Stern keep it up
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Just ah lil snipit from the SAFC forum on todays game. Had to do some editing, them fellas does real cuss on that forum.
Nice work from big Stern
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Where they getting all the subs from - off the street?
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For all their hard work they have just given away a soft goal.
They look very tired!!!
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well worked goal that
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Gerrin !!!! Stern John 4 - 0
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ta, great ball for the third.
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Stern's the future man.
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Yeah, baby, yeah
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gerrin John lad
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Stern John's tearing them apart.
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lovely build up for the goal from John.
Think Galway have given up the ghost a bit now.
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Anyone have to Stern goal on video yet?
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Well well it seems as if the strikers of Sunderland are beginning to get back there sharpness in front of the goal as they defeated Galway 4-0.
Chopra opened the scoring in the 6th minute
Kieran Richardson added in the 56th minute
David Connolly in the 84th minute
And of Course our own Stern John in the 85th minute.
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oh geez nah, alyuh stop making life difficult for the mods and add it to the thread where men been following the game for the last 3 hours now nah ..
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yeah yeah.....keep it up stern. Keep Bussin dee net. Two goals and counting
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Ah boy Midknight.... yuh see how it is...yuh create ah thread but man does have to have they own toys so is like yuh thread go die out welcome to what ah this be trying to say. Why is it that flks cyar just add to a thread with the same objective?
P.S Mr. Berris...ooops John let the boots do the talking... prove them wrong or prove them right.
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12814
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's win over Galway United:
"It was good. We took our chances and it was a nice way to finish off the trip.
"Our form hasn't been too bad, we created chances and we finished them with some good goals - it's always nice to score four goals.
"We've enjoyed the trip but I don't care who you are, when you've got your new club it's always nice to score and that's them [Chopra and Richardson] up and running and they were two very good finishes.
"Dave [Connolly] and Stern [John] got one each as well and it's always nice for the strikers to hit the back of the net.
"There were a few tackles going in, which I don't mind. The players enjoyed it and that's what you come to Ireland for - competitive games. Galway are 20-odd games into their season and they are fit and strong.
"A lot has been asked of the players on this trip, it's been demanding and I think they've represented Sunderland very well.
"We've another match on Saturday then seven days until the Spurs game. We'll analyse it and see who we are going to put out against Spurs.
"There were one or two players who did themselves a favour tonight.
"We need a bit more strength in depth and we're working on that. We are making slow progress. If I'm learning one thing in this game, it is that the deals can drag out.
"A lot of it is out of your hands, it tests your patience but if you want something you have to bide your time. We're hoping we'll have a good season.
"We're back first thing in the morning and the next goal for us is trying to beat Juventus on Saturday."
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Stern's assist to Connolly (from the replay it look like Stern's cross was going in):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7tm3e7
Stern's goal after a nice knock with Connolly:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/llo0mt
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2007/08/02/keano-nets-misfit-mido-89520-19557464/
Keano nets misfit Mido
EXCLUSIVE FOOTBALLSPY
By Martin Lipton 02/08/2007
Daily Mirror
Sunderland boss Roy Keane last night completed a shock £6million swoop for Spurs' Egyptian striker Mido.
Keane's biggest signing yet as a manager will see the 24-year-old hitman move to the North East on a four-year deal.
And Mido's first taste of competitive action in a Black Cats shirt will come against his former White Hart Lane pals when Tottenham visit the Stadium of Light on the opening day of the season.
Mido, pushed down the Spurs pecking order by the arrival of £16m Darren Bent, had been on the verge of a Birmingham move last month.
But the deal hit the rocks over personal terms and interest from Fulham also petered out.
Now, though, Keane has seized the moment and, while the full contract has yet to be agreed, it is understood terms between Sunderland and the player have been ironed out.
Mido is set to pick up £40,000 a week and become the club's seventh summer signing.
The forward, who arrived at Spurs on loan from Roma before completing a £3m deal last summer, scored 19 goals in 56 appearances for Martin Jol's North Londoners.
His move is set to be tied up today and confirmed this afternoon, after a medical which the striker is expected to pass.
It is a major boost for Keane, whose signings include Cardiff striker Michael Chopra, midfielder Kieran Richardson from Old Trafford, Reading's Greg Halford and Dickson Etuhu.
(Taking dis with a grain a salt, we'll see later, check de source)
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Yeah the mirror is not the most reliable source.
If it is true though Sunderland have a got themselves a temperamental but potentially very good signing on their hands. When he's on his game he is an excellent but you never know which Mido is going to show up (hint: If he's overweight he'll be crap). He does not respond well to rotation and needs to play constantly to get the best out of him.
Roy Keane will have his hands full with this one.
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Still nothing on the Sunderland site.
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Still nothing on the Sunderland site.
Yeah, the SMB forum dismissing the transfer talk as rubbish as well.
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ITS THE MIRROR WHAT DID YOU GUYS EXPECT??
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Stern's assist to Connolly (from the replay it look like Stern's cross was going in):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7tm3e7
Stern's goal after a nice knock with Connolly:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/llo0mt
can you upload them on another site eg zshare or youtube or dailymotion or attachmax
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ITS THE MIRROR WHAT DID YOU GUYS EXPECT??
Do they actually apologise when they get their facts wrong?
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ITS THE MIRROR WHAT DID YOU GUYS EXPECT??
Do they actually apologise when they get their facts wrong?
Not for Transfer stories, only when they slur someones character (once per month or so!). In their defence, this pre-season not only the Mirror have had bogus transfer stories. Almost every daily has published at least one.
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Dailymotion links
1-0 http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/sunderland+galway/video/x2oa96_galway-united01sunderland-chopra_sport/1
2-0
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/sunderland+galway/video/x2oac8_galway-united02sunderland-richardso_sport/1
3-0(Stern assist)
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/sunderland+galway/video/x2oaho_galway-united03sunderland-connolly_sport/1
4-0(Legend 14 goal)
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/sunderland+galway/video/x2oalu_galway-united04sunderland-stern-joh_sport/1
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http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sunderlandafc/news/tm_headline=mido-and-gordon-top-cats-8217-list%26method=full%26objectid=19562995%26siteid=50081-name_page.html
Mido and Gordon top Cats’ listAug 3 2007
by Stuart Rayner, The Journal
SUNDERLAND are edging closer to signing two of the three players Roy Keane has targeted before the end of the transfer window, but the Black Cats may be struggling to land either in time for tomorrow’s game against Juventus.
Keane wants a goalkeeper, a target man and a left-back and would like them in place by the time his side faces Tottenham Hotspur on August 11.
The Wearsiders have had a bid for striker Mido accepted by Spurs, while they have come to an agreement with Heart of Midlothian over a fee for Craig Gordon – although not over how and when it should be paid.
With talks yet to get under way with Egyptian striker Mido’s representatives, both deals are some way from being completed.
Sunderland have offered £6m for Mido – real name Ahmed Hossam – but the player’s experiences this year should serve as a cautionary tale. Steve Bruce’s Birmingham City thought they had signed the much-travelled star last month only for the move to break down over the size of his sell-on fee.................................................
Physically, Mido is just the kind of striker Keane has been searching for – a tall, strong target man who is good in the air. Stern John played that role in the second half of last season but, although he was top scorer on the club’s pre-season tour of Ireland which ended this week – scoring twice and creating a goal – the number of good chances he missed was alarming.
Long article , check link for the rest.
These critics will not give Stern credit for working to create those chances , in fact he gets little credit for being top scorer. How come he has more chances than the rest of the team?
As Stern says, the goals will follow, if you don't create chances you can't score.
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Seeing the intense amount of interest that the presence of several trinis in one premiership club has and will incite, I have taken the initiative of making one thread on the subject. It should help to keep the board clean as well...
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Club : Sunderland Assocation Football Club
Nickname : The Black Cats
Founded : 1879
Official Website : http://www.safc.com
Stadium : Stadium of Light (since 1997) Capacity : 49 000
Location : City of Sunderland, England
Manager : Roy Keane
Honour Roll (since 1992) : CHAMPIONSHIP Winners: 1996, 1999, 2005 & 2007
Kit :
Home (http://www.shopcreator.com/mall/productpage.cfm/store=SunderlandAFC&productid=10595&did=42024) (Sorry, can't yet find a stand alone pic of the home kit)
Away : (http://soccerlens.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/sunderland-away-kit-07-08.jpg)
Third (http://www.shopcreator.com/mall/departmentpage.cfm/?store=SunderlandAFC&did=107184&productpage=1&sdpage=1)
Squad (summer recruits in bold) :
Goalkeepers
Trevor Carson, Darren Ward, Marten Fulhop
Defenders
Stephen Wright, Nyron Nosworthy, Peter Hartley, Danny Collins, Clive Clarke, Stanislv Varga, Greg Halford, Russell Anderson, Paul MacShane
Midfielders
Grant Leadbitter, Jake Richardson, Dean Whitehead, Arnau Riera, Tobias Hysen, Liam Miller, Graham Kavangh, Ross Wallace, Carlos Edwards (http://www.safc.com/team/?page_id=2623&player_id=155), Bill Dennehy, Disckson Etuhu, Kieran Richardson
Forwards
Anthony Stokes, Darryl Murphy, Craig Connolly, Dwight Yorke (http://www.safc.com/team/?page_id=2623&player_id=138), Stern John (http://www.safc.com/team/?page_id=2623&player_id=158), Michael Chopra
Matches and Fixtures
Preseason
18/07 Darlington v Sunderland 0-2 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=12691&page=0&t=1) (Wallace 12', Stokes 76')
21/07 Sc**thorpe v Sunderland 1-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=12714&fixture=892)
24/07 Berwick Rangers v Sunderland Reserves 2-3
28/07 Sunderland v Bohemians 1-0 (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=12767&fixture=885) (John 77')
30/07 Cork City v Sunderland 1-1 (http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12778) (Miller 75')
01/08 Galway Utd v Sunderland 0-4 (http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12810) (Chopra 6', Richardson 56', Connolly 83', John 85')
04/08 Sunderland v Juventus
07/08 Sunderland Reserves v Hartlepool
15/08 Durham City v Sunderland Reserves
20/08 Hebburn Town v Sunderland Reserves
Premier League
11/08 Sunderland v Tottenham, 12:45
14/08 Birmingham v Sunderland, 19:45
18/08 Wigan v Sunderland, 15:00
25/08 Sunderland v Liverpool, 12:45
01/09 Man Utd v Sunderland, 17:15
15/09 Sunderland v Reading, 15:00
22/09 Middlesborough v Sunderland, 15:00
29/09 Sunderland v Blackburn, 15:00
07/10 Arsenal v Sunderland, 12:00
21/10 West Ham v Sunderland, 16:00
27/10 Sunderland v Fulham, 15:00
05/11 Man City v Sunderland, 20:00
10/10 Sunderland v Newcastle, 12:45
24/11 Everton v Sunderland, 15:00
01/12 Sunderland v Derby, 15:00
08/12 Chelsea v Sunderland, 15:00
15/12 Sunderland v Aston Villa, 15:00
22/12 Reading v Sunderland, 15:00
26/12 Sunderland v Man Utd, 15:00
ah cyar wait!!
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12834
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's draw with Juventus:
"I thought the game was excellent, we're heading in the right direction.
"It's not often you get the chance to play against a team like Juventus.
"It was an opportunity for my players to challenge themselves against some good players and they stood up to it.
"I thought we we did well but the real challenge is next week, against Spurs.
"I'm delighted with all of them. It was a bigger challenge than in the last few weeks and they are happy in the dressing room.
"We just have to focus on the Tottenham match now and we'll be ready.
"Are we equipped for next season? Only time will tell. We have a good squad of players and the fans are right behind us at this moment in time. It's full steam ahead now.
"I'm pleased with the new players. They have done well but we have to give them time to settle.
"We had a flow and even when we conceded the goal, in the last couple of minutes the players showed a great desire to try to win the game.
"That's what you need, you have to have that desire to win football matches.
"Maybe we were unlucky not to have won it at the end but Juventus had plenty of possession and one or two chances themselves. Drawing the game is not the end of the world."
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Sunderland's decidedly Trini flavour ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V0Cm6Kona4
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12858
Edwards and Halford are Cats injury worries
By Nick Alexander
Greg Halford and Carlos Edwards are fighting injuries ahead of Sunderland's Barclays Premier League opener against Tottenham.
Edwards has a hip injury while Halford hurt his hamstring in training yesterday.
Both players are likely to start against Spurs, forming the right side of Sunderland's team, if they are fit.
Boss Roy Keane said: "We hope Carlos will be all right. He joined in training yesterday and we'll gauge it over the next one or two days.
"Greg has a slight hamstring strain so it will be touch and go for him.
"But overall the injury problems are not too bad. I look at the situation at other clubs and I think we've been very lucky.
"The aim in pre-season is not to pick up injuries but it's difficult when you play games. Inevitably one or two players are going to pick up knocks."
With the new season almost upon them, Keane says the excitement is starting to build in the Sunderland camp.
"Spurs is a great game to start with," he said. "There is definitely a feeling of excitement and anticipation around the place.
"We've had a good pre-season and now we have three or four days on the training ground before it all starts."
Sunderland will also be without Grant Leadbitter against Spurs, he has a knee injury that is set to keep him out for two weeks.
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Sunderland 2007/08 preview
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11695_2643444,00.html
Keane's former Manchester United team-mate Dwight Yorke, who will be one of the oldest players in the Premier League at the age of 35, Graham Kavanagh, and strikers Stern John and David Connolly will all bring their knowledge to the side.
Saturday Game on Setanta. KO 7:30
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12855
Cats land £9m Gordon
By Martin Walker
Sunderland have broken the British transfer record for a goalkeeper by signing Craig Gordon from Hearts.
The 24-year-old Scotland international has signed a five-year contract with the Black Cats in a deal worth up to £9m - also a transfer record for Sunderland.
It eclipses the £7.8m Manchester United paid for French keeper Fabien Barthez in 2000.
Gordon agreed terms at the club's Academy of Light training ground last night and the paperwork was finally pushed through this afternoon.
Roy Keane, Sunderland's manager, beat off competition from a number of clubs to sign the Edinburgh-born player.
The Black Cats boss said: "I'm delighted that we've managed to sign Craig.
"He's a top goalkeeper and he'll be a massive asset for us over the next few years. We've already got two very good goalkeepers and Craig is a big signing for Sunderland."
Gordon, who has been Hearts' captain since December, becomes Keane's seventh summer signing, arriving just three days before the Barclays Premier League season starts.
He could make his debut against Tottenham at the Stadium of Light on Saturday, but he will need to pass a fitness test on a shoulder injury to do so.
Gordon follows Greg Halford, Russell Anderson, Michael Chopra, Kieran Richardson, Dickson Etuhu and Paul McShane to the Stadium of Light this summer
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STONG IN THE BACK STRONG UP FRONT
i seein this side lookin like a 10th
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12874
Keane signs O'Donovan
Roy Keane has made his eighth signing of the summer, bringing in Roy O'Donovan from Cork City.
The Cork-born striker, this season's top scorer in the eircom League of Ireland, has signed a three-year deal with the Black Cats.
O'Donovan, who celebrates his 22nd birthday tomorrow, follows Greg Halford, Russell Anderson, Michael Chopra, Kieran Richardson, Dickson Etuhu, Paul McShane and Craig Gordon to the Stadium of Light.
O'Donovan, an Ireland B international, had a spell in English football with Coventry two years ago before signing for his hometown club.
The fee is undisclosed.
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According to the Sunderland website Keane is also expecting to get Mido's decision today.
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12872
Keane's high hopes
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane is confident that he will have a full-strength team out for the season opener against Spurs on Saturday.
Carlos Edwards (hip), Greg Halford (hamstring) and Craig Gordon (shoulder) are all bidding to be fit for the Stadium of Light clash.
Edwards, who was last in action against Bohemians 12 days ago, and Gordon returned to training today and are expected to get the green light to play.
Halford, however, is touch and go. He hurt his hamstring in training earlier in the week.
If the £2.5m signing from Reading does not make it, Keane has the option of moving skipper Dean Whitehead to right-back or handing a baptism of fire to Michael Kay.
Kay, 17, has featured for the Black Cats throughout pre-season after graduating from the under-18 team.
Keane said: "Carlos has trained in the last two days and Craig's is just a niggling problem. We'll have a look at him today.
"We'll wait and see with Greg. We're hoping he'll be fit, if not we'll get by.
"I won't have any fear about throwing a young player in, Kaysie has done very well in pre-season.
"We looked at Deano there [at right-back] last year when we had one or two injury problems and he did a brilliant job. We'll wait and see."
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Tottenham Hotspur-Sunderland Preview
August 9, 2007
LONDON (AP) - Roy Keane returns to the Premier League on Saturday when his newly promoted Sunderland side takes on Tottenham at the Stadium of Light.
The fairytale of his 12 months in charge of the Black Cats is helping add a healthy slice of romance surrounding the top flight new boys.
ADVERTISEMENT
A year ago, Sunderland were in turmoil, languishing near the bottom of the Championship having lost their first five games. Chairman Niall Quinn was in temporary charge of the team and claims that the ?world class? manager he was lining up to take the helm was Keane led to widespread consternation amongst the club?s loyal fans.
It was all the more surprising because of comments Keane made about Quinn following his exit from the Ireland squad in the 2002 World Cup.
The rifts were healed however and Keane proved himself an astute mover in the ruthlessly competitive Championship, inspiring his side to pip Birmingham to the title on the last weekend of the season.
So what of Sunderland?s Premiership chances? Well, with Fulham and Wigan both tipped to struggle there might be a chance for a couple of the promoted sides and Sunderland certainly appear to be well placed.
They already had some good talent at the club, even before their summer spending spree. In defence, Nyron Nosworthy has been tipped by Quinn to handle the step up in class.
The midfield duo of Tobias Hysen and Carlos Edwards ? both young midfielders with cultured passing games ? have all the tools to do well in the top flight and up front they have former Arsenal charge Anthony Stokes who made a giant splash in the SPL during the first half of last season, scoring 14 league goals in just 16 games for Falkirk before joining Sunderland in January.
With new additions at some eyebrow raising prices ? Michael Chopra L5 million, Craig Gordon L9 million ? Quinn has at least backed his manager and will hope the investment pays off over the season.
On record signing goalkeeper Gordon from Hearts, Keane said: ?We do not get bogged down by transfer records or whatever because they are there to be broken and they will continue to rise. It shouldn?t worry players and they have just got to concentrate on their game.
?The way fees are going up is only going to get a lot worse. But it is like everything else, if you want quality in life, if it is a nice car or a nice house, you have to pay for it.
?Craig will be a good signing for us. He is a good age and has got good experience. I believe this is the perfect club for him and I just hope we can take him onto the next level because there is room for improvement with every player.?
This is a crucial season for Spurs as they try and break the monopoly of the top-4 and they have certainly backed manager Martin Jol in the transfer market with a host of big signings over the summer break.
Talented but little known youngsters Kevin-Prince Boateng and Younes Kaboul set the club back an estimated L14 million and both are expected to vie for a place in the first team. Boateng is a German under-21 midfielder while Frenchman Kaboul has been rated as the best French defensive prospect of his generation and compared to the likes of Marcel Desailly.
Spurs? two other major signings are more familiar names with Darren Bent joining youngster Gareth Bale at White Heart Lane for a combined L21.5 million.
Big ambition matched by big funds, but can Jol?s new additions cure Spurs Achilles heel and the reason why they didn?t break the top four last season ? their poor record away from home.
They took just 21 points from a possible 57 on the road in 2006/7, losing eight of their 19 games and for a side with Champions League ambitions that just isn?t acceptable.
For all the talent on show many wondered if Spurs just lacked the basic character to go and play the tough away games against the ?smaller? sides on cold winter nights. It will be interesting to see if the summer?s spending spree will cure their away day blues. Jol, however, knows that the pressure is on even more after his L40 million blow-out.
"There is more pressure now because people expect more this season,? he said. "There are always high expectation levels at Spurs, but in the past they were more cynical than realistic. We first have to prove that we are a top-four club because we have never done that before.
"As a matter of fact we haven't even proved that we are top five because it took us until two games before the end of last season to get there. "People say we've had five quarter-finals in the last two seasons, so we have to come up with silverware, but that is very special," added the Dutchman.
Jol received some bad news on Thursday when it was confirmed that winger Aaron Lennon will be out for at least two weeks due to knee trouble.
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Sunderland 1-0 Tottenham
By Andrew McKenzie
Michael Chopra scored in injury time to give Roy Keane's Sunderland side a stunning victory over Tottenham on their return to the Premier League.
Substitute Chopra took a touch before firing home with almost the last kick of a game lacking in clear-cut chances.
Sunderland striker Daryl Murphy had earlier wasted the best chance of the game when he took a poor touch and was denied by Paul Robinson's legs.
Spurs had ample possession but Dimitar Berbatov wasted their best opening.
Chopra's winner on his league debut for the Black Cats was a dramatic end to a game otherwise almost devoid of incidents.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/6931064.stm)
http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=12885&fixture=2846741&t=4
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's win over Spurs:
We scored plenty of late goals last season and it's not down to luck.
Great credit to my players, they showed desire to keep getting in there. A lot of teams might have settled for a draw and it might cost us in other games but that desire is great, I'm delighted for the players.
Everyone did their bit. In football you get your just rewards and the players worked extremely hard. They deserved it.
The hard work wil need to continue if we want to have a good season. I keep saying that if we create the chances for Chopra he will score.
I'm sure he was disappointed not to start the match but like any decent player, he reacted in the right way.
I just looked at him on the bench and I thought he was keen to get on, he had that look. I'm delighted for him.
The whole team were outstanding - the workrate, there were a few good performers.
I've said it before, if he's from Newcastle or New Zealand, if he can add something, I will sign him.
I thought a draw wouldn't be the end of the world but the players have that desire to win it.
When we scored there were two or three in the box. They just wanted to win the match.
Craig Gordon didn't have too much to do, but what he did have to do, he looked very solid. He's been here three days and straight away he's left an impression on people.
It's a good start for us but there is a long way to go.
It's a different club from two years ago, we have a different attitude and mentality and there's not that many players here from two years ago.
The fans were fantastic. Every fan at the start of the season is not sure what to expect, but they were great.
It's very nice to get three points on the board and in football you get what you deserve and we deserved it.
In football, you cannot relax and we move on to Birmingham on Wednesday.
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=29954.0)
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12897
Chopra hungry for more success
By Nick Alexander
Micheal Chopra hopes his dramatic winner against Tottenham will lead to a Sunderland start against Birmingham on Wednesday.
Chopra had to settle for a place on the bench in Saturday's opener but he was still the hero of the day.
The Black Cats go to St. Andrew's looking for a second successive Premier League win and Chopra is certain to be involved.
He said: "You don't want to be arguing with Roy Keane about why he hasn't picked you. He knows what team to pick and when to bring players on.
"This is a big opportunity to show people I can play in the Premiership. Scoring a goal on my debut, hopefully I have started to do that.
"There was never a flicker of doubt in my mind about coming here. I jumped at the chance. When someone like Roy Keane comes in for you, it means a lot.
"I have always said I love scoring, and whether it is my first or last I will celebrate like a madman.
"When I scored for Newcastle against Sunderland it was my first Premiership goal - if it had been against Chelsea or Man United I would have had the same reaction.
"I was desperate for someone to give me that chance in the Premiership and all thanks goes to the manager and Sunderland because he has paid the money for me. I have got to work hard, keep scoring and repay the manager."
Roy Keane, who paid £5m for Chopra this summer, reckons the former Cardiff man has the potential to become a top striker.
He said: "If you create chances for Chops he knows where the back of the net is.
"His goals record is very good - you can't take that away from a player. And today he was as cool as you like with his goal.
"When you talk about the top strikers, a lot of their goals are scored from within the six-yard box, not 25 yards.
"The Van Nistelrooys and the Linekers of this world got a lot of goals from around six yards and we need more of that."
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McShane gets top player vote
Paul McShane was voted Sunderland's top player from their 1-0 win over Spurs on Saturday.
In a poll here on safc.com, centre-back McShane, making his Premier League debut, came in front of Nyron Nosworthy and Michael Chopra.
After each game we ask you to pick the Black Cats' man of the match.
Sunderland's top three players against Spurs, voted by the fans, were:
Paul McShane 48%
Nyron Nosworthy 18%
Michael Chopra 15%
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Daily Mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=475343&in_page_id=1779&ct=5
Keane slams greedy, hen-pecked players
Last updated at 18:31pm on 14th August 2007
Roy Keane has launched a scathing attack on today's hen-pecked football stars and the WAGs culture in the game.
The Sunderland manager says he has no time for players who allow their lives to be controlled by their wives and girlfriends, and who are more likely to be directed by the quality of the local boutiques than by football.
He also accused some players of being driven by money and being obsessed about living in London.
Keane takes his side to Birmingham tomorrow night, where he will be in the opposite dug-out to his former Manchester United team-mate Steve Bruce.
The pair were integral members of an all-conquering mid-1990s United line-up, and Keane admits he would love to be working with the same kind of dressing room mentality.
But the 36-year-old Irishman is coming to terms with the fact that a growing number of players do not have the same single-minded approach to their profession as he and Bruce did.
Keane, who throughout summer has had trouble attracting big names to the Stadium of Light, said today: "It's important you bring the right players to the club.
"You can't always be a Steve Bruce but you can be a character who comes in and gives 100 per cent for the club.
"I have to say I think the game has less and less characters. They are more motivated by lots of different things like money and London and living in shopping areas.
"Really, you're a footballer - when you're retired you can live anywhere you want. But players are very much focused on where they are going to live and a lot of that is down to their partners, who seem to be running their lives anyway.
"It concerns me. It should all be about the football and be a footballing decision."
Keane has never been afraid to speak his mind but this is the first time during his embryonic career in management he has launched such a fierce outburst.
While at United he hit out at the "prawn sandwich brigade" among the Old Trafford crowd and, shortly before he left the club, he criticised team-mates in an interview with MUTV, which was so strong it was never broadcast.
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Carlos Arrested and Released
http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/chroniclelive/eveningchronicle/tm_method=full%26objectid=19588569%26siteid=50081-name_page.htm
Black Cat drove with wrong licence
Aug 8 2007
by Linda Richards, Evening Chronicle
SUNDERLAND player Carlos Edwards has been driving without a British licence for seven years, it was revealed today.
The seven-year hitch was revealed when he appeared in court after speeding at 97mph, dashing to see his sick baby.
The 28-year-old Trinidad and Tobago international was arrested and brought before magistrates in Gateshead.
His appearance was the third since he was caught speeding on the A194 in Gateshead on May 10.
At 11am on that day, police followed the Sunderland winger for one and a half miles driving his Mercedes Benz in a 70mph limit towards White Mare Pool. He was driving with a Trinidad and Tobago licence and had never applied for a UK licence.
He was summonsed for speeding and driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence and was found guilty on July 9 in his absence.
But because the 28-year-old midfielder already had six points on his licence, magistrates considered disqualifying him from driving under the totting-up procedure and adjourned sentence until last week for him to appear.
When he failed to appear, a warrant was issued for his arrest.
David Mayhew, prosecuting, told magistrates Edwards, who appeared under his full name Akhenaton Edwards, was caught driving at 97.12mph.
When asked by police why he was driving at such speed, he said: “I am meeting my lass. My baby has not been very well.”
Dressed in beige jacket and white shirt, Edwards, of Bay Court, Sunderland, appeared in the dock flanked by two security guards. He only spoke to confirm his details.
Magistrates told Edwards they were giving him another chance and not banning him. Instead they gave him five penalty points and fined £250 with £40 costs.
But he was told he must not drive again until he has a British licence.
His barrister, Lorraine Mustard, had appealed to magistrates not to disqualify the star, who signed for Sunderland in January for £1.5m.
She said on the day he was caught speeding he was told he would receive information through the post, but did not receive anything. It was his intention, she added, to plead guilty but a number of things of a “delicate family nature” had pre-occupied his mind.
Miss Mustard added: “His partner and child are in Watford and he uses his motor vehicle to keep in regular contact with his child, who is still very ill.”
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Edwards, who appeared under his full name Akhenaton Edwards
WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wha de ass Carlos parents was tinkin when dem did sign de butt paypah? :o :o
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before it was
"Rolls Royce"
now, it is
"Leadfoot" ;D
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Edwards, who appeared under his full name Akhenaton Edwards
WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wha de ass Carlos parents was tinkin when dem did sign de butt paypah? :o :o
Is a very nice African (Egyptian) name. I don't see the problem with it.
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Edwards, who appeared under his full name Akhenaton Edwards
WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wha de ass Carlos parents was tinkin when dem did sign de butt paypah? :o :o
Is a very nice African (Egyptian) name. I don't see the problem with it.
When u name your pickney Akhe whaever ah go beelee dat. ;)
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Edwards, who appeared under his full name Akhenaton Edwards
WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wha de ass Carlos parents was tinkin when dem did sign de butt paypah? :o :o
Is a very nice African (Egyptian) name. I don't see the problem with it.
When u name your pickney Akhe whaever ah go beelee dat. ;)
Alkonaton was a pharroh in the old kingdom of egypt, he was also the father of tutenkhamon the youngest pharroh in known egyptian history, the boy king. so i think his name is a boss name and i will gladly name my kids any of the two names. positive.
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next 2 Saturdays
i predict a Liverpool win ;D
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alyuh men damn idle
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alyuh men damn idle
ah know ;D
good thing ah didnt do the rest of the year yes :devil:
doh worry..they go see the inconvenience they does cause other people eventually with they making thread for every lil thing
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When u name your pickney Akhe whaever ah go beelee dat. ;)
Alright check mih in the next 5 years or so.
ps: I believe Makandal Daaga named one of his sons Akhenaton
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whats the man name?..Alkonaton or Akhenaton?
btw..Just Cool..ah know u say u like the names etc but yuh wife go be ok with them names?
just curiously positive ;)
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alyuh men damn idle
ah know ;D
good thing ah didnt do the rest of the year yes :devil:
doh worry..they go see the inconvenience they does cause other people eventually with they making thread for every lil thing
who "they"? :devil:
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alyuh men damn idle
ah know ;D
good thing ah didnt do the rest of the year yes :devil:
doh worry..they go see the inconvenience they does cause other people eventually with they making thread for every lil thing
who "they"? :devil:
"they" know who "they" are ;)
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oh lawd i knew this day would come.....i just hope both teams have a good game.
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Doh matter who win or draw in this one , Everton still on top by 3pts.
Everton the silent assasins. ;D ;D
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whats the man name?..Alkonaton or Akhenaton?
btw..Just Cool..ah know u say u like the names etc but yuh wife go be ok with them names?
just curiously positive ;)
LOL! Man torkin big and bole on message board and when pickney born...dem end up namin dem chile Vibert or Steve... ;D ;D
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oh lawd i knew this day would come.....i just hope both teams have a good game.
Iz ok man, we gobe gentle wid allya liverpuddliens. :devil:
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whats the man name?..Alkonaton or Akhenaton?
btw..Just Cool..ah know u say u like the names etc but yuh wife go be ok with them names?
just curiously positive ;)
Not bragin , but i bad from birth, no gyul doh run my show, i am liberal but to a point, but if they cross the line then i gone . as simple as that. i real old fashion and bad to the marrow like super cat. positive.
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12924
Keane eyes win number two
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane insists Sunderland will go for broke at Birmingham tonight.
The Black Cats are looking to build on their first-day win over Spurs by making it two wins out of two in the Premier League.
Old rivalries will be renewed at St. Andrew's as two of the promoted teams go head to head.
And Keane, whose side drew 1-1 at Birmingham in a Championship game in February, says his Black Cats are aiming for three points.
He said: "In life, there has to be an element of risk if you want to achieve something. It's not our mentality to go into games looking for draws.
"We'll be going down there to win. We had the chances to win [at Birmingham] in February but they held us to a draw.
"But if we play as well tonight as we did last time we were at St Andrew's, the result will take care of itself.
"Birmingham put on a good show against Chelsea on Sunday and proved that they are a decent side. I think it will be an open game tonight and a good game for the fans."
Sunderland's opening-day victory over Tottenham shocked most of the Premier League, but there was no surprise in Keane's mind.
He said: "The win against Spurs wasn't an upset as far as I am concerned, far from it. We had the best chances, more shots and more corners."
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12926
Hysen in reserves squad
By website reporter
Toby Hysen will feature for Sunderland Reserves in a friendly against Durham City tonight (7.30pm).
It will be the Swedish winger's first game since before the Black Cats' pre-season tour of Ireland, which he missed.
Hysen is looking to secure a move back to Sweden after informing Roy Keane that he wants to leave Sunderland for personal reasons.
The Black Cats' team tonight will also include Jack Pelter, the centre-back from New Zealand who is interesting Keane.
Pelter, 19, played for Sunderland in their pre-season game at Sc**thorpe United.
Tonight's game takes place at the Archibald Stadium in Durham.
Sunderland (from): Carson, Kay, Liddle, Donaghue, Weir, Pelter, Sandler, Hysen, J. Richardson, Dowson, Waghorn, Dennehy, Hunter, Colback, Henderson, Cook.
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Birmingham 2-2 Sunderland
Sunderland striker Stern John returned to haunt his former club by snatching a dramatic late equaliser at Birmingham.
The Black Cats had gone behind when Paul McShane diverted a Stephen Kelly header into his own net.
Sunderland were denied a penalty for an apparent push on David Connolly before Michael Chopra clinically finished.
But Garry O'Connor angled in a shot to put the Blues ahead again only for John to nod home after heading against the crossbar just minutes earlier.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/6941801.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12938
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's draw at Birmingham:
"I'm delighted with the result but I don't think the performance was great.
"Again, the players had a great desire to get a result. Maybe a draw was a fair result. I don't think it's a coincidence to score so many late goals.
"We've got a half-decent result from this and now we have some lads fresh for Saturday [at Wigan].
"I half expected the performance tonight, the sharpness wasn't there.
"It was a good finish by [Michael] Chopra. I was thinking he should take another touch and then it was in the back of the net. He has had two chances [this season] and has got two goals.
"Last season, we were 1-0 up here and we should have won the game, we conceded in the last minute. This time Brucey [Steve Bruce] will feel they should have won it because they were 2-1 up with a minute to go.
"There wasn't too many chances and I think scrappy would be the best way to describe the game.
"Apart from the last 15 minutes, I thought the game was relatively poor."
On Carlos Edwards (who limped off in the last 10 minutes):
"He has a damaged hamstring. I probably should have taken him off because he missed a lot of pre-season and I knew he would tire. I got that call wrong and we'll see how he is in the next 24 hours."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=30094.0)
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12953
Edwards injury blow
By Nick Alexander
Carlos Edwards will be out of action for a month after hurting his hamstring at Birmingham on Wednesday.
The winger will miss Sunderland's game against Wigan, Liverpool, Luton and Manchester United.
Roy Keane will hope to have him back after the international break, against Reading on September 15.
Keane said: "Carlos will be out for a month, it's bad news but it's just one of those things.
"This is why I talk about needing a big squad and hopefully we will be OK without him.
"We have a two-week break coming up. Hopefully Carlos will be back after the break.
"We really should have taken him off [at Birmingham] but when he's on the pitch he's a real threat and we hoped he might produce something.
"That's football, you look at every other club in the country and players pick up injuries. Three games in a week in very difficult on the legs."
Keane is hoping Dickson Etuhu recovers from a foot injury in time to travel to Wigan.
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http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=12956&fixture=2846819
Wigan Athletic v Sunderland
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane will reshape his team at Wigan tomorrow as a tough opening week in the Premier League begins to take its toll on his players.
Keane was this morning hit the news that Carlos Edwards will be out of action for a month with a hamstring injury.
And the Black Cats boss admits that the first week of the season has provided a tough test for his players.
Kieran Richardson, Daryl Murphy, Dwight Yorke and Anthony Stokes were all rested for Wednesday's game at Birmingham and they look set to make an appearance at the JJB Stadium.
Keane said: "It's been a tiring week - three games in a week at the start of the season is difficult, especially when two of them are away from home.
"There were lads left out the other night and hopefully they will be fresh. I'll be looking to make a few changes."
Keane is happy with Sunderland's four-point haul from two games. The Black Cats have made the best start of the newly promoted teams.
He said: "We've had a decent start. The performance was not great the other night but we got something out of it.
"If you'd told me before the season that we'd get four points from two games I would have been happy enough. We've shown good character and we'll need that for the rest of the season.
"There will be games where we don't play particularly well, like at Birmingham, and you've got to try to get something from them.
"We got away with it the other night, we require more quality than that. If we defend like that every week, we'll be struggling."
Wigan got off the mark with a 1-0 win over Middlesbrough at the JJB Stadium on Wednesday.
Keane added: "We're looking forward to it. Wigan got a decent result the other night and they will make it difficult for us, but that's the least you expect."
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Wigan 3-0 Sunderland
By Paul Fletcher
Wigan moved top of the Premier League after consigning Roy Keane's Sunderland to their first defeat of the season.
Emile Heskey hooked a cross home with his right foot before Danny Landzaat doubled their lead with a penalty after Danny Collins fouled Antoine Sibierski.
Russell Anderson brought down Heskey for Sibierski to score Wigan's second penalty in the space of seven minutes.
Michael Chopra and Daryl Murphy were both denied by Chris Kirkland saves but the Latics undoubtedly deserved to win.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/6941868.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12971
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's defeat at Wigan:
"We were second best, I can't think of any plusses. A lot of teams would have beaten us today.
"I expected Wigan to put us under pressure, they are strong and physical but the defenders have got to learn to deal with that in the Premier League.
"Wigan have a bit of power. I have no complaints about the penalties, it was bad defending, you should get your body position right and we didn't do that.
"You learn a lot about your players and their character in setbacks like this. I certainly learned a lot today. It's from the defeats that you learn the most. I'm determined to get things right here.
"Sometimes players help you make decisions and a couple have done that today.
"I thought it was a real flat performance. You have to do the basics right, you have to tackle, you have to defend. I can't think of anything good that came out of it, maybe something will come to me later.
"Win, lose or draw you have to move on. I couldn't think of a tougher game than Liverpool to follow; so we'll have to regroup, refocus and make sure we're ready and raring to go.
"We've said a few words in the dressing room and we'll reflect now. One or two of the lads are away on international duty. The lads will recover from this, I have good faith in the players.
"We've had setbacks before and we'll have plenty more. In the Premier League you will have your ups and downs. We had a decent few days, today's a bad day. It's been a typical week in the Premiership.
"I'm sure the fans are disappointed but let me tell you, nowhere near as disappointed as I am.
"The most important thing is that we regroup and recover. I tend to focus on the performance as much as the result and today's was disappointing."
On Dean Whitehead's injury:
"Dean Whitehead jarred his knee in training and he wasn't fit enough for today. It was just an unfortunate thing. Hopefully he will be fit for next Saturday."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=30165.0)
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12990
Carlos injury frustration
By Nick Alexander
Winger Carlos Edwards is frustrated with his latest injury set-back, which will keep him out for a month.
Edwards, a key component in Sunderland's side, hurt his hamstring in the Black Cats' draw at Birmingham a week ago.
The 28-year-old, who had an injury-hit pre-season, will miss Sunderland's Premier League games against Liverpool and Manchester United as well as their Carling Cup date with Luton, his former club.
He told safc.com: "It's frustrating, I've not had the best run of luck with injuries. There is no getting away from the disappointment but at the same time I'm keeping positive."
Black Cats boss Roy Keane shouldered the blame for Edwards' injury, admitting that he should have taken off the winger before the injury struck at St Andrew's.
But Edwards disagrees: "You can't blae anyone. He could have taken me off and then it could have happened on Saturday, you just can't tell.
"I felt OK and then I crossed the ball just before it happened. I was unbalanced, I planted my foot down awkwardly and I think it put too much strain on it, it just went.
"Injuries do happen and it's how you react. I will stay positive and work hard to get back, and I will give the lads 100 per cent support.
"It's a blow to miss games against Liverpool and Manchester United but I will not let it discourage me, I'll just get on with it."
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12999
Leadbitter gets a boost
By Nick Alexander
Grant Leadbitter could be back in action as early as Saturday's game against Liverpool.
The Sunderland midfielder was expected to be sidelined for up to six weeks after tearing his hamstring in the warm-up against Juventus nearly three weeks ago.
But Leadbitter, 21, has healed quickly, allowing him to train this week. He now has an outside chance to be involved against the Reds at the Stadium of Light.
He said: "It was originally meant to be four to six weeks but I'm two-and-a-half weeks in and I'm okay. I've been able to run for a while so my fitness is not too bad.
"It has been a frustrating time for me but I'm just looking forward now. I can't wait to get playing again."
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13003
Keane looks at Harte, Kuffour
By Nick Alexander
Ian Harte, the former Leeds left-back, is training with Sunderland with a view to securing a move to the Stadium of Light.
Harte, 29, has left Spanish club Levante and hopes to win a move back to the Premier League.
The Irish defender, a former international team-mate of Roy Keane, has had three years in Spain since leaving Elland Road.
Keane, who tried to sign Harte last season, said: "Hartey has been here since Tuesday. He has just had a free from his team in Spain and he's here for three or four days.
"The quality he has got is there for everyone to see and he has settled in here.
"We'll monitor it and we'll probably have news in the next 48 hours, we're looking to make a decision.
"It's good for a player to come to the club and see what we're about, to see if he fancies it. He's a good lad a good personality."
Keane is also taking a look at Samuel Kuffour, Roma's experienced central defender, as he looks to strengthen his injury-hit squad ahead of the transfer window closing at the end of the month.
Kuffour, a Ghana international, also played for Bayern Munich where he won the Champions League in 2001. He was on loan at Livorno last season, playing 18 games for the Serie A club towards the end of the campaign.
Keane said: "We are having a look at them and it's good for them to look at what we are doing here, but there's no chance of them signing before the weekend."
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13005
Whitehead injury blow
By Nick Alexander
Sunderland have been rocked with the news that their captain Dean Whitehead could be sidelined for up to six weeks.
Whitehead missed last weekend's game at Wigan after hurting his knee in training 24 hours earlier and it has emerged that the midfielder has ligament damage.
The 25-year-old has his knee in a brace and will not feature for the Black Cats in the immediate future.
Boss Roy Keane said: "Deano's not good, he will be out for at least four or five weeks, possibly longer. We'll gauge it after his knee has been rested.
"When Deano misses a game, deep down you know that it's not a straight-forward injury because he's a tough lad.
"He is a massive loss to us, we missed him last weekend. He's been a top player since I've come to the club - a good leader and an excellent captain."
Whitehead suffered the injury just as Keane was about to wind up the training session last Friday morning.
"He jarred it just before the end [of training]," confirmed Keane. "He had to walk off the training pitch and when Deano does that, you know that it's serious. He's not one of those lads that goes in [for treatment] every second day with a niggle.
"You always play it down and hope that it settles down in 48 hours. He had a scan, saw a specialist and he will be in a brace for three weeks, it's a blow."
Sunderland have had a run of bad luck with injuries in the last two weeks. Whitehead, Carlos Edwards and Grant Leadbitter have all been sidelined.
Leadbitter could play some part against Liverpool tomorrow after making a quicker-than-expected recovery from a hamstring strain.
Keane said: "You look at the game last week [at Wigan], for us to be missing people like Grant, Deano and Carlos was a blow, they are big players for us, there's no getting away from that. It's nice to see Grant back on the training pitch."
Paul McShane looks set to play against Liverpool at the Stadium of Light despite suffering a head injury at the JJB Stadium last weekend.
The centre-back required 10 stitches to a head wound during the Wigan game and pulled out of the Republic of Ireland squad this week.
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Edwards and Whitehead are vital says Rowell (Sunderland Echo)
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=30273.0
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13006
Keane close to Cole deal
By Nick Alexander
Sunderland hope to complete the signing of Andrew Cole by the end of today.
Cole is on Wearside for a medical this morning and if all goes to plan he will sign a one-year deal at the Stadium of Light.
Black Cats boss Roy Keane, who played alongside Cole for five years at Manchester United, said: "Coley's having a medical today and hopefully it will be done by the weekend.
"I spoke to him earlier in the week, agreed terms on Wednesday and he will be joining us for a year.
"His experience will be vital for us. I spoke last week about the fact that we don't have too much experience in the dressing room and there's no harm in bringing in one or two lads who have done the course and know what it is all about.
"He hasn't trained with us yet and I don't imagine he will be match-fit, so it's unlikely he will figure this weekend, maybe not until after the international break."
Cole, 35, the Premier League's second top-scorer after Alan Shearer, is a free agent after cancelling his contract with Portsmouth by mutual consent this summer.
The ex-England man, who formed a lethal partnership with Dwight Yorke at Manchester United, has scored 188 top-flight goals. Yorke is also now at Sunderland.
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buh wiat nah this is the midknight thread? ;D ;D
these are some poweerful words and since we will be underdogs on the world stage 4 a while we should live by them.
Sunderland vs Liverpool
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane says Sunderland should take a leaf out of Manchester City's book before they take on Liverpool tomorrow.
Keane was at Eastlands last weekend to watch City cause a major shock by beating their rivals Manchester United.
It was the kind of David versus Goliath clash that tomorrow's game at the Stadium of Light (12.45pm) is being billed as.
Keane said: "On any given day you have to believe that you can beat one of the top four sides. I've never gone into a game in my life thinking that I had no chance of winning.
"Sometimes it is meant to be - I went to see Man United against Man City last weekend and United had most of the ball and the chances and yet City won 1-0.
"We have to be positive. Liverpool are a very good side and we will be the underdogs tomorrow - there's no getting away from that.
"A lot of people won't give us a chance. A lot of people didn't give us a chance of winning against Spurs on the opening weekend - but we did.
"Liverpool, along with Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal, are one of the top four and I don't think there is anybody in the division capable of breaking into that top four, They are genuine title contenders now.
"You have have to have belief when you go into these games. You have to have a big heart and show masses of determination and that's what we will do."
Keane is asking Sunderland's fans to be upbeat tomorrow - the Stadium of Light will be close to capacity for the live TV game.
"The fans will be hugely important and we need them to be up for it, I'm sure they will," said Keane.
"We're 11th in the Premiership and tomorrow we are at home to Liverpool - compare that to this time last year when we were bottom of the Championship!
"We had a setback at Wigan but any decent player responds to a setback in the right way and that's what I expect tomorrow."
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buh wiat nah this is the midknight thread? ;D ;D
Dread, human nature is ah hell of a thing eh. The other day a fella put up a thread bout a NFL man for spite in this forum, and tell men read it before the mods move it. What you could do ? :-\
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buh wiat nah this is the midknight thread? ;D ;D
Dread, human nature is ah hell of a thing eh. The other day a fella put up a thread bout a NFL man for spite in this forum, and tell men read it before the mods move it. What you could do ? :-\
Yuh trying hard tuh keep de thread afloat, lol
but good scenes still, de info good and informative...men just rather ad lib when they posting I guess.
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buh wiat nah this is the midknight thread? ;D ;D
Dread, human nature is ah hell of a thing eh. The other day a fella put up a thread bout a NFL man for spite in this forum, and tell men read it before the mods move it. What you could do ? :-\
Yuh trying hard tuh keep de thread afloat, lol
but good scenes still, de info good and informative...men just rather ad lib when they posting I guess.
As ah said, there isn't much you could do ... except persevere ;-)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13014
Cole signs for Sunderland
By Nick Alexander
Andrew Cole has signed for Sunderland after completing a medical today.
The striker, 35, has penned a one-year deal at the Stadium of Light. He will not be involved against Liverpool tomorrow.
Cole said: "I'm very excited to be here. It is another challenge and hopefully I can use my experience to help the young players. I had a few options and I just thought this was a good one.
"I want to get a good week or 10 days' training under my belt and go from there."
A former Manchester United team-mate of Roy Keane, Sunderland's manager, Cole left Portsmouth at the end of last season.
He has also played for Bristol City, Newcastle, Manchester City, Fulham and Blackburn.
Only Alan Shearer has scored more Premier League goals than Cole, who has found the back of the net 188 times in the top flight.
Keane said: "Andrew's experience will be vital to us. He's a proven goalscorer and will bring a lot to our squad."
Cole, who becomes the club's ninth summer signing, has been given squad number 20 at Sunderland.
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like allyuh forget Sunderland have ah cutarse book tomorow or what? :devil:
allyuh feel the game go go by silently? ;D
anyway they gettign at least 5 with ah Torres hattrick
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next 2 Saturdays
i predict a Liverpool win ;D
Feliz..why yuh doh go and predict something that require some skillz nah. Yuh predicting a perennial top 4 EPL side and European CL finalist will beat a promoted side. Come nah man ;) heheh
I for one backing SUNDERLAND. Big upset in the making...
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like allyuh forget Sunderland have ah cutarse book tomorow or what? :devil:
allyuh feel the game go go by silently? ;D
anyway they gettign at least 5 with ah Torres hattrick
LiverPUDDLE ent winng shyte tomorrow ;D ;D
my prediction:
Sunderland 1:0 LiverPUDDLE ;)
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Anybody got ah link to watch this game?
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don't expect any Trinis on the pitch tomorrow
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don't expect any Trinis on the pitch tomorrow
dais why i go be happy with ah blowout ;D
doh worry allyuh..ah go support Sunderland for their rest of games :beermug:
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doh worry allyuh..ah go support Sunderland for the rest of their games :beermug:
that is so good of you :rotfl:
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this is de real test fuh keane and co.3-1 to benitez and co.
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It showing at 7:30 AM on Sentanta Sports
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with out Stern they ein t have ah icicle chance sorry ,but they to good for the ppl that bring them to the ball .
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It showing at 7:30 AM on Sentanta Sports
4:30 AM Pacific ST. Having Setanta on Dish is really a plus. It also seems as though the people at Setanta like Sunderland. They are bringing a comparatively large number of Sunderland games.
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YORKE STARTING
Team news:
Paul McShane was given the go-head to play despite needing 10 stitches in a head wound at Wigan. Dwight Yorke continued to deputise for the injured Dean Whitehead and Liam Miller was chosen ahead of Anthony Stokes to play on the right side of midfield. Michael Chopra, who has two goals this season, partnered Daryl Murphy up front. Miller for Anthony Stokes was the only change from the side Roy Keane put out against Wigan.
Liverpool decided against risking their skipper Steven Gerrard. The midfielder has a hairline fracture of the toe.
Teams:
Sunderland: Gordon; Halford, Nosworthy, McShane, Wallace; Miller, Etuhu, Yorke, Richardson; Chopra, Murphy. Subs: Ward, Stokes, Leadbitter, Anderson, Connolly.
Liverpool: Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia, Voronin, Arbeloa, Alonso, Pennant, Babel,
Sissoko, Torres. Subs: Itandje, Agger, Riise, Kuyt, Mascherano.
www.safc.com
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1-0 Liverpool. Sunderland playing decent, though. Much much better than last week.
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decent is realative to last week i hope....cause they playing kick and hope......no wonder yorke isnt involved much in the offence
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1-0 Liverpool. Sunderland playing decent, though. Much much better than last week.
Apart from a good move between Chopra and Stokes who throw way I find they playing toots.
In fact the match is quite unimpressive in general, not a good advertisement for english football
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1-0 Liverpool. Sunderland playing decent, though. Much much better than last week.
Decent?? Sunderland couldn't string three passes together in the first half. Yorke is the only one who look like he could make ah decent pass to a teammate. Sundlun sorely need their midfield to step up and take some pressure off the defense and start creating some chances or its going to be a rough second half.
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decent is realative to last week i hope
That and relative to me expecting it to be bout 3-0 by now. Which I guess it could have been.
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they knocking itmore now
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yorke off on 60 mins. i ent go lie, without Carlos this side real difficult to watch
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only when yorke was coming off ah realisehe was wearing de capt arm band :beermug:
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I watching this game and yorke would be more effective if he had help,plus stoke is ah joke,murphy a dead law,Mc shane decent,the rest ah dem I don't know.........
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2-0 game set match
Really, this Sunderland side is going to struggle. Voronin, in my view a borderline shithound based on today's play, made the defence look pedestrian.
Hopefully Carlos and KJ, if he gets there, will improve the quality, because some of the players really aint up to it.
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better 2nd half performance but outclassed nonetheless even without Gerrard and Crouch.
Need some creativity in the midfield to feed the strikers in scoring positions. Chopra decent showing, Murphy is a waste. KJ and Chopra would make a good partnership.
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crouch ??? ??? ::) :rotfl:...
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Murphy is a waste.
I can't understand why he seems to be favored over Stern.
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Liverpool never look great, but they never look troubled either.
I will have to break it to some people gently, Sunderland with the current players/injuries, is a s*** squad.
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If again ,but according to there board Yorke ,was the worst player again .Infact they have an official F off Dwight tread up there now !!
I really hope Jones stays away from that f**king Club jeds . Them ppl off they rockers .
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If again ,but according to there board Yorke ,was the worst player again .Infact they have an official F off Dwight tread up there now !!
I really hope Jones stays away from that f**king Club jeds . Them ppl off they rockers .
which board is that ?
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If again ,but according to there board Yorke ,was the worst player again .Infact they have an official F off Dwight tread up there now !!
I really hope Jones stays away from that f**king Club jeds . Them ppl off they rockers .
I could'nt agree more with you about kj,I really hope he finds home somewhere but sunderland.
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If again ,but according to there board Yorke ,was the worst player again .Infact they have an official F off Dwight tread up there now !!
I really hope Jones stays away from that f**king Club jeds . Them ppl off they rockers .
which board is that ?
Sunderland .
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If again ,but according to there board Yorke ,was the worst player again .Infact they have an official F off Dwight tread up there now !!
I really hope Jones stays away from that f**king Club jeds . Them ppl off they rockers .
which board is that ?
:o
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=264564
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check this one out
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=264592
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hard luck there Sunderland
Good game LiverPOOL
we go take allya next time ;)
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Sunderland is level shit. We juss fraid to say so because we adopt them b/c of the Trinis on the team.
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Sunderland is level shit. We juss fraid to say so because we adopt them b/c of the Trinis on the team.
Bakes ease we up nuh ;)
do we really have to come out and say that for it to be so...... :rotfl:
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I learn long time to stay way from 100% fan sites.
I have found that the people who go on these sites like to act like them know everything bout football and the team and uncompromising on every damn point. They never happy and only good to call man shithound. They does get on like the team name Real Madrid or Brazil and feel nothing or nobody good enough for the team ;D (any resemblances to any other fan sites is 100% coincidental)
Seriously though, the fellas on the official board a lot cooler...
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Bakes ease we up nuh ;)
do we really have to come out and say that for it to be so...... :rotfl:
If they didn't have any Trinis on that team all ah we would be saying dey deserve to go back dong. I'll still root them on but I ent getting caught up. Maybe when Carlos come back...maybe then I'll see something, but Keane done rubbing mih de wrong way arready and his signing of Cole this week only bolsters my 'reactionary coaching' criticism of him. Shut the fack up and win already.
I learn long time to stay way from 100% fan sites.
I have found that the people who go on these sites like to act like them know everything bout football and the team and uncompromising on every damn point. They never happy and only good to call man shithound. They does get on like the team name Real Madrid or Brazil and feel nothing or nobody good enough for the team ;D (any resemblances to any other fan sites is 100% coincidental)
Seriously though, the fellas on the official board a lot cooler...
Likely because on the "official board" they'd get banned with a quickness if they were just as unrestrained.
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I learn long time to stay way from 100% fan sites.
I have found that the people who go on these sites like to act like them know everything bout football and the team and uncompromising on every damn point. They never happy and only good to call man shithound. They does get on like the team name Real Madrid or Brazil and feel nothing or nobody good enough for the team ;D (any resemblances to any other fan sites is 100% coincidental)
Seriously though, the fellas on the official board a lot cooler...
:thinking: shithound eh . Anyway whats the official site I have had with that one then .
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I don't think they was cussing yorkey that much, at least some folks were defenending him, when no one was defending stern, but i really chear them onn BC of we boys especially york the general, they need a shit load of help IMO BC they looked absolutily dreadfull today. I had the same fear about kenwin, i really wanted him to go to derby instead of sunlun, and i glad stern gone from them ingreats. i wish kenwin would be picked up by derby for the same reason i glad stern gone from there.
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I'm surprised dat a member like Cartman, haven't entered dis thread, tuh defend his people on de board. Cartman, wey yuh dey boss? Talk tuh de people nah, cuz dey really upset at how Sunderland board members and supporters, bashing we T&T players (except Carlos). We nah like it all, after we began tuh look like ah big happy family a few months ago, it look like we falling apart and going different directions now :(. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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If they didn't have any Trinis on that team all ah we would be saying dey deserve to go back dong. I'll still root them on but I ent getting caught up. Maybe when Carlos come back...maybe then I'll see something, but Keane done rubbing mih de wrong way arready and his signing of Cole this week only bolsters my 'reactionary coaching' criticism of him. Shut the fack up and win already.
I actually think Keane was after Cole well before the season started. That rumor was around for a while..seems they only now getting a deal done.
Carlos will add something to the side, but Sunderland's inability to make any truly class signings in the summer means they are a Championship squad playing in the EPL..so they better learn quick. Still my side this season..hoping for a KJ to get signed..Stern to stay and a Four star T&T-laiden Sunderland to achieve a respectable finish due to a strong 2nd half of the season...
heheh..doh laugh at my newfound optimism ;D
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http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=393501
Now read that Sunderland and Southampton agreed a fee for Jones
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If they didn't have any Trinis on that team all ah we would be saying dey deserve to go back dong. I'll still root them on but I ent getting caught up. Maybe when Carlos come back...maybe then I'll see something, but Keane done rubbing mih de wrong way arready and his signing of Cole this week only bolsters my 'reactionary coaching' criticism of him. Shut the fack up and win already.
I actually think Keane was after Cole well before the season started. That rumor was around for a while..seems they only now getting a deal done.
Carlos will add something to the side, but Sunderland's inability to make any truly class signings in the summer means they are a Championship squad playing in the EPL..so they better learn quick. Still my side this season..hoping for a KJ to get signed..Stern to stay and a Four star T&T-laiden Sunderland to achieve a respectable finish due to a strong 2nd half of the season...
heheh..doh laugh at my newfound optimism ;D
I don't understand when you say their" inability to make any truely class signings" i thought they have three T&T WC players,the word out was that team would light up the EPL because of these players,people still talking about why they don't pick up more,he pick up Cole to see if that will help revive Yorke,i think Yorke only in the game now for small change his best days are over.
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I'm surprised dat a member like Cartman, haven't entered dis thread, tuh defend his people on de board. Cartman, wey yuh dey boss? Talk tuh de people nah, cuz dey really upset at how Sunderland board members and supporters, bashing we T&T players (except Carlos). We nah like it all, after we began tuh look like ah big happy family a few months ago, it look like we falling apart and going different directions now :(. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Supa, I wouldnt dig nuttin man
some of dem is jez Little boy if not in stature but in maturity
they jez reach in the EPL and they want to win de Treble ;)
jez concentrate on the good
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If they didn't have any Trinis on that team all ah we would be saying dey deserve to go back dong. I'll still root them on but I ent getting caught up. Maybe when Carlos come back...maybe then I'll see something, but Keane done rubbing mih de wrong way arready and his signing of Cole this week only bolsters my 'reactionary coaching' criticism of him. Shut the fack up and win already.
I actually think Keane was after Cole well before the season started. That rumor was around for a while..seems they only now getting a deal done.
Carlos will add something to the side, but Sunderland's inability to make any truly class signings in the summer means they are a Championship squad playing in the EPL..so they better learn quick. Still my side this season..hoping for a KJ to get signed..Stern to stay and a Four star T&T-laiden Sunderland to achieve a respectable finish due to a strong 2nd half of the season...
heheh..doh laugh at my newfound optimism ;D
I don't understand when you say their" inability to make any truely class signings" i thought they have three T&T WC players,the word out was that team would light up the EPL because of these players,people still talking about why they don't pick up more,he pick up Cole to see if that will help revive Yorke,i think Yorke only in the game now for small change his best days are over.
Coop's..I meant during the summer transfer window, they did not pick up any class signings to strengthen the squad. Maybe I should have said proven class, but I was specifically speaking about the summer transfer period.
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2-1 Sunderland Yorke or John scoring the winner at the death
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I'm surprised dat a member like Cartman, haven't entered dis thread, tuh defend his people on de board. Cartman, wey yuh dey boss? Talk tuh de people nah, cuz dey really upset at how Sunderland board members and supporters, bashing we T&T players (except Carlos). We nah like it all, after we began tuh look like ah big happy family a few months ago, it look like we falling apart and going different directions now :(. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Looks can be deceiving. Were we ever really going in the same direction, or part of the same family?
TnT fans backing the Trini players and Sunderland fans backing Sunderland, it is purely a marriage of convenience.
Remember that when Carlos signed, the members here had nothing good to say about Sunderland. Sunderland start to look like promotion candidates and suddenly everybody is a Sunderland fan because they want to see the boys name in lights.
If Yorke and Stern don't play or get slated something must be wrong with Keane and the Sunderland fans.
All the Trini Sunderland "supporters" we have here will dry up if Carlos or Jones was to make a move and Keane is jsut one or two personnel decisions away from being "an asshole, shit manager, who nobody ever liked".
Just as we have no Porto, Rangers, Hibs, Boavista, Aston Villa fans on here now we will have no Sunderland fans when our guys move on.
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I still like sunderland ,just not a fan a there fans anymore .Am gonna fix that by stop reading that SMB board . Cause were stuck with them .
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I learn long time to stay way from 100% fan sites.
I have found that the people who go on these sites like to act like them know everything bout football and the team and uncompromising on every damn point. They never happy and only good to call man shithound. They does get on like the team name Real Madrid or Brazil and feel nothing or nobody good enough for the team ;D (any resemblances to any other fan sites is 100% coincidental)
Seriously though, the fellas on the official board a lot cooler...
:thinking: shithound eh . Anyway whats the official site I have had with that one then .
look it here (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=29670.msg337837#msg337837) ;D
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I learn long time to stay way from 100% fan sites.
I have found that the people who go on these sites like to act like them know everything bout football and the team and uncompromising on every damn point. They never happy and only good to call man shithound. They does get on like the team name Real Madrid or Brazil and feel nothing or nobody good enough for the team ;D (any resemblances to any other fan sites is 100% coincidental)
Seriously though, the fellas on the official board a lot cooler...
:thinking: shithound eh . Anyway whats the official site I have had with that one then .
look it here (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=29670.msg337837#msg337837) ;D
Thanks Midknight your rite ,I ll just stay home at this site the world is ah ugly place . :beermug:
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Sunderland 0-2 Liverpool
By Andrew McKenzie
Mohamed Sissoko and Andriy Voronin scored their first Premier League goals as Liverpool saw off Sunderland.
Sissoko got on the end of a good Liverpool move to fire a low shot past Sunderland keeper Craig Gordon.
Fernando Torres and Voronin should have increased the Reds' advantage but Gordon was in inspired form.
Apart from a couple of Anthony Stokes efforts, Sunderland rarely threatened and Voronin cut inside late on to fire a right-foot shot past Gordon.
Sunderland manager Roy Keane had tipped Liverpool as title contenders before the game - and they showed a steel perhaps missing in recent years in holding off a home side full of commitment but lacking in quality.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/6952883.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13023
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's defeat to Liverpool:
"I thought we had good moments of quality today but it's tough when you're playing against a side like Liverpool - they are very, very strong.
"We've got another tough game next weekend so it's been a tough start for us but that's the beauty of the Premier League. It's the place we want to be and we have to learn pretty quick.
"Even towards the end we were trying to get a goal back. Our players will learn from this. We have a lot of young, inexperienced players.
"Liverpool had some very good chances but when it's 1-0 you are always hopeful. No one likes losing football matches but I'm slightly happier than I was last weekend.
"There's a way to lose a game and when you lose to a club with a bigger and stronger squad, you have to take your medicine, we did that today.
"We showed good bits of quality and we had a chance with up to five minutes to go.
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"If you think you are going to play against some of these teams and your keeper is not going to have to work hard, you are in cuckoo land. It would have been nice if we had tested their keeper a bit more, sometimes the final ball was not what we wanted.
"You know what you are going to get against these top teams. Liverpool are probably disappointed that they didn't score more. They have a strong squad and it's a nice position for their manager to be in.
"If you have quality players and have the work-rate to go with it - and Liverpool have - you have a great chance.
"I believed this morning that we could beat Liverpool. I know certain managers say you have to beat the teams around you and anything you get against the top teams is a bonus, but I'm not going down that road ... yet.
"I'd hate to go into a game thinking that I'm beaten already, that would be a sad day for me.
"We need a few players to strengthen the squad, we picked up a few injuries today - we are looking to add two or three players over the next few days.
"Kieran [Richardson] has a bit of a back problem, he had it when he came to us in pre-season but it's not too bad."
Roy Keane has confirmed that he will not be following up his interest in AS Roma defender Samuel Kuffour.
Kuffour, a centre-back, trained with Sunderland last week.
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=30068.0)
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Soccer365
http://www.soccer365.com/EUROPEAN_NEWS/Match_Previews/page_127_148632.shtml
Luton v Sunderland 27/08/07
Luton manager Kevin Blackwell will keep faith with midfielder David Bell and goalkeeper David Forde when his team host Premier League new-boys Sunderland in the Carling Cup.
Bell will retain his place in the starting XI despite the return of midfielder Steve Robinson from injury after returning from injury himself to score the opener in spectacular fashion as the Hatters beat Gillingham 3-1 at the weekend.
Forde will also continue between the sticks after his loan move from Cardiff on Friday, with Dean Brill not risked after suffering a training ground knock ahead of the Gills game.
Defender Alan Goodall should be passed fit despite suffering a head injury on Saturday, while striker Paul Peschisolido may have to make do with a place on the bench if he recovers sufficiently from his ankle injury.
Kieran Richardson is set to miss Sunderland's Carling Cup trip after struggling off in his side's defeat to Liverpool with a recurrence of a back injury.
Boss Roy Keane will resist making wholesale changes as his squad is already stretched by the absences of captain Dean Whitehead (knee) and Carlos Edwards (hamstring).
Fringe players like Stern John, Russell Anderson and Roy O'Donovan can expect to figure but there will be no place in the squad for veteran striker Andy Cole.
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Fringe players like Stern John, Russell Anderson and Roy O'Donovan can expect to figure but there will be no place in the squad for veteran striker Andy Cole.
:thinking:
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Fringe players like Stern John, Russell Anderson and Roy O'Donovan can expect to figure but there will be no place in the squad for veteran striker Andy Cole.
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I didn't want to believe the KJ Stern exchange rumours, but when you see he not on the squad list you have to start facing up to reality.
Doh study it stern, you have a history of taking sides up to the Premiership; show them what you made of; we behind you 100% come what may
http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13030&fixture=2882904
Luton Town v Sunderland
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane has given Grant Leadbitter a ringing endorsement ahead of tonight's game against Luton.
Leadbitter will play against The Hatters in the Carling Cup after returning from injury for the latter stages of Saturday's 2-0 home defeat by Liverpool.
The midfielder is one of the few players from before Keane's time at Sunderland to prosper at the club in the last year.
And the Black Cats boss has even likened him to Paul Scholes, his former Manchester United team-mate.
Keane told safc.com: "Grant's trained really well in the last week. It's great to see him back because he's got real quality and he's enthusiastic.
"He reminds me of Paul Scholes in the way that he's straight into it without any messing about.
"Scholes could of been out for six months and still been one of the best players in his first day back.
"With Grant you saw that against Liverpool. Sometimes it's hard to get into a game when you come off the bench after you've been out for a while, but his sharpness and his first touch were there straight away.
"It was a blow to have Grant missing for the first few weeks of the season, he has a chance of being a top player."
Tonight's game kicks off at 7.45pm and you can listen to live commentary on SAFC TV.
Sunderland (from): Ward, Carson, Anderson, Varga, Halford, Nosworthy, Wallace, Collins, Donoghue, Etuhu, Leadbitter, Miller, O'Donovan, Yorke, Kavanagh, Chopra, Connolly, Murphy, Stokes.
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Have any of you seen kenwyne Jones play for your national side? just wondering how good he is.
Carlos Ewards was outstanding for us last season and he's been a big miss, but both him and Jones are going to have it all to prove on the big stage hope they can rise to the challenge and become SAFC legends. Yorke has nothing to prove but his best years are behind him, same with Stern John, lets hope Edwards and Jones hit the same heights!
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Have any of you seen kenwyne Jones play for your national side? just wondering how good he is.
Carlos Ewards was outstanding for us last season and he's been a big miss, but both him and Jones are going to have it all to prove on the big stage hope they can rise to the challenge and become SAFC legends. Yorke has nothing to prove but his best years are behind him, same with Stern John, lets hope Edwards and Jones hit the same heights!
With the national side, Jones has been very good at holding up the ball, shielding off defenders, that sort of thing. He has also played some important roles against the physically smaller teams. However, his relative inexperience and Coach Beenhakkers preference of Stern John and the 4 5 1 sytem had relegated him mostly to a substitute/support striker role.
He gets up pretty high and has a good head on his shoulders. He's also very hard working. He's a much more of an explosive player than is Stern, but his first touch isn't as good. He sometimes has the tendency to be a bit too hard headed, persuaded that he can go through anything and everyone, but on the other hand he plays a lot less back to goal.
If I had to compare him to Stern I'll say that the only advantage he has over him is potential for amelioration because of his young age and the tendency for this generation of TNT players to be late bloomers and more versatility (He was actually a defenderwhen he started out) If you want a pure goal scorer I'd pick Stern any day, but I'm a bit biased
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If you want a pure goal scorer I'd pick Stern any day, but I'm a bit biased
You hear what you saying? You telling a sunderland fan that if yuh want a pure goalscorer... Pick Stern...
They does call de man Banjo.... BANJO!! :rotfl:
yuh wha dem right off Kenwyne before he reach?
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If you want a pure goal scorer I'd pick Stern any day, but I'm a bit biased
You hear what you saying? You telling a sunderland fan that if yuh want a pure goalscorer... Pick Stern...
They does call de man Banjo.... BANJO!! :rotfl:
yuh wha dem right off Kenwyne before he reach?
never did get the banjo joke, plus I did say I was biased.
That said I stand by what I said. When off goalscoring form Stern on the field is rarely ever very useful. When Kenwyne ids off goalscoring form he will still always be a handful. However, with both on similar form, I would expect Stern to get more goals.
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If you want a pure goal scorer I'd pick Stern any day, but I'm a bit biased
You hear what you saying? You telling a sunderland fan that if yuh want a pure goalscorer... Pick Stern...
They does call de man Banjo.... BANJO!! :rotfl:
yuh wha dem right off Kenwyne before he reach?
never did get the banjo joke, plus I did say I was biased.
That said I stand by what I said. When off goalscoring form Stern on the field is rarely ever very useful. When Kenwyne ids off goalscoring form he will still always be a handful. However, with both on similar form, I would expect Stern to get more goals.
Nah I hear yuh man... and understand wha yuh saying...
by de way dey say Stern couldn't even hit a cow arse with a Banjo... lol
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If you want a pure goal scorer I'd pick Stern any day, but I'm a bit biased
You hear what you saying? You telling a sunderland fan that if yuh want a pure goalscorer... Pick Stern...
They does call de man Banjo.... BANJO!! :rotfl:
yuh wha dem right off Kenwyne before he reach?
never did get the banjo joke, plus I did say I was biased.
That said I stand by what I said. When off goalscoring form Stern on the field is rarely ever very useful. When Kenwyne ids off goalscoring form he will still always be a handful. However, with both on similar form, I would expect Stern to get more goals.
Ah tink one ah de main differences between de two is that w/Stern, one can def. say what is goal opportunities: goals scored ratio currently looks like and will likely continue to look like; whereas w/Kenwynne his championship experience shows his calibre and of course age is on his side, w/the right grooming, opportunities, and a little bit of luck he could blossom into a lethal striker.
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http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2157659,00.html
I remember him from his United days... they should really change the name of the club to X-Man United...
Higginbotham in Sunderland talks
Stoke reluctantly agree £2.5m bid for skipper
Sunderland have had a £2.5m bid for centre-back Danny Higginbotham accepted by Stoke City after the former Manchester United trainee handed in a written transfer request this week.
The imminent arrival of the Potters' captain, who is now discussing personal terms on Wearside, should end Roy Keane's interest in landing the Roma defender Samuel Kuffour before Friday's transfer deadline. Stoke manager Tony Pulis will be reluctant to see his captain leave the club, but admitted that the switch was likely after leaving the 28-year-old out of the side that lost 3-2 to Southampton on Saturday.
Stoke's chairman Peter Coates said the club had "reluctantly" agreed to let Higginbotham leave after he rejected two new contract offers, including an improved four-year deal. "We're hugely disappointed to lose Danny," said Coates. "However, it is difficult to keep a player who no longer wants to play for you."
Higginbotham, who joined Stoke in August 2006 after stints at Southampton and Derby County, scored seven goals in 46 appearances last season. He was made club captain in February following Michael Duberry's departure to Reading. The fee of £2.5m will rise to £3m subject to both his and his new club's performances.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/league_cup/6963502.stm
Clarke collapse ends Forest tie
Nottm Forest A-A Leicester
Clive Clarke
Clarke is on loan at Leicester from Sunderland
Nottingham Forest's Carling Cup tie at home to Leicester was abandoned at half-time after Foxes defender Clive Clarke collapsed in the dressing room.
Paramedics rushed down the tunnel to attend to the 27-year-old shortly after the half-time whistle.
"Clive was very seriously ill," said Leicester chief executive Tim Davies.
"He was taken away in an ambulance to hospital. He did offer a few words in the ambulance. Our thoughts and prayers are with Clive and his family."
He added: "I would like to say a big thank you to Nottingham Forest for dealing with the matter so fast."
BBC Radio 5live reported that Clarke was being treated in the emergency room at the Queen's Medical Centre in Nottingham.
He is believed to be conscious.
Forest were leading the Carling Cup tie 1-0 at half-time thanks to Junior Agogo's goal.
However, after a delay of 15 minutes, Forest boss Colin Calderwood and Leicester manager Martin Allen emerged from the tunnel to announce to the crowd that the game had been abandoned.
Calderwood said: "We are afraid that due to the serious illness of a Leicester player both clubs have agreed to postpone the match."
Forest chief executive Mark Arthur said later: "I think football is secondary to human issues.
"As soon as we found out the serious nature of Clive's situation, we went straight to the referee and said we would do whatever is right by Leicester.
"Obviously, they are going through great trauma at the moment and we very quickly agreed between the three parties that the game should be abandoned."
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Midknight ah have ah question ,how many players who was on that promoted team from last season still are starters .Cause am sure luton ain t breakup they team .
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Midknight ah have ah question ,how many players who was on that promoted team from last season still are starters .Cause am sure luton ain t breakup they team .
Murphy, Carlos, Nosworthy, Ross Wallace, Dwight/Whitehead (usually one or the other starts). So five. And once they finish sign Kenwyne and a next defender, it'll be three.
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Midknight ah have ah question ,how many players who was on that promoted team from last season still are starters .Cause am sure luton ain t breakup they team .
Problem with Sunderland is how thin the squad is.
Check this out. This is basically the setup
First string
1. Craig Gordon,
5. Nyron Nosworthy, 6. Paul MacShane, 33. Ross Wallace,
4. Dickson Etuhu, 7. Carlos Edwards (out until September 15), 8. Dean Whitehead (out until October 1), 10. Kieran Richardson (injured), 18. Grant Leadbitter,
11. Darryl Murphy, 16. Michael Chopra,
Second string
13. Darren Ward,
15. 2. Greg Halford, Danny Collins, 21. Russell Anderson
12. Liam Miller, 19. Dwight Yorke,
9. Anthony Stokes, 14. Stern John, 31. David Connolly,
Third string
24. Trevor carson,
27. Stanislav Varga, 29. Peter Hartley,
30. Jake Richardson, 28. Graham Kavanagh,
23. Roy O' Donovan, 20. Andrew Cole (not match fit)
Others
32. Marten Fulhop (on loan to Leicester City for the season),
Clive Clarke (on loan to Leicester City until November)
Arnau Riera (sold to Falkirk)
Tobias Hysen (returned to Norway)
Squad against Luton
13 Ward
02 Halford
33 Wallace
05 Nosworthy
21 Anderson
12 Miller
18 Leadbitter
04 Etuhu (62 O'Donovan )
11 Murphy (62 Connolly )
16 Chopra
09 Stokes (78 Yorke )
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8. Dean Whitehead (out until October 1)
Nope. Check this: http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13043
He gone for six months. More pressure.
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Luton 3-0 Sunderland
League One side Luton caused a huge shock as they sent Premier League team Sunderland out of the Carling Cup.
David Bell blasted the Hatters ahead with a fine free-kick after 13 minutes and Paul Furlong made it 2-0 at the break with a cool lobbed finish.
Anthony Stokes hit the bar for the Black Cats but their chances were all but over when Greg Halford handled deliberately, his second caution.
Furlong wrapped up the win when the visitors failed to clear a free-kick.
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13044
It's a major disappointment, Keane
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's Carling Cup defeat at Luton:
"With the players we had out there tonight, we were hoping and we expected to get through to the next round.
"The first goal was always going to be important, without doubt it's the most disappointing time I've had since I've been at the club.
"I can't say I played a weakened team, it was a strong team and one that should have been good enough to win the football match.
"We never thought for one minute it was going to be an easy game - you have to remember last year these two teams were in the same division.
"We came here last year and had a good result, that makes it all the more disappointing.
"It's important not to jump to conclusions straight after the game. We'll try not to over-analyse it now and we'll look to get back and look over it again.
"It was basic stuff. The first goal goes through the wall and then our passing wasn't up to scratch. At 2-0 I really felt that if we'd got a goal, we would go on to win the game.
"We felt one or two decisions didn't go our way - without making excuses - and then we had the sending off; it was a really bad night for the club. I was disappointed with the referee's performance.
"But our players have to be responsible for the bookings - diving at people and giving away silly free-kicks, that will cause us problems.
"Having said that, when you set a wall up you expect it to do the job and it certainly didn't, which gave them their first goal and encouragement, and we were on the back foot from there on.
"You get disappointments but it's a major, major disappointment for everyone at the club. It just makes me more determined to get the job done.
"I know that there's a big challenge ahead. Tonight's result and performance makes me determined to get the club back to where it belongs and I'm determined to do that."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=30442.0)
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13049
Sunderland sign Harte
Sunderland have completed the signing of former Leeds defender Ian Harte.
The 29-year-old joins Roy Keane's squad as a free agent, on a one-year contract.
Black Cats boss Keane said: "I've played alongside Ian and I know the qualities he can bring to our club. You need a big squad in the Premier League and he will add strength to ours."
Harte, a former Republic of Ireland team-mate of Keane, spent nine years at Elland Road during which time the Yorkshire club reached the semi-finals of the Champions League.
He said: "It's great to be back in the Premier League and I'm raring to go, I want to get playing as soon as possible.
"This is a good opportunity for me at a massive club like Sunderland, and there are plenty of Irish lads here to make me feel welcome."
Harte, who moved to Levante in Spain on a free transfer in 2004, trained with Sunderland last week in a bid to impress Keane after being released by the La Liga club.
Harte, a left-back known for taking free-kicks and penalties, has won 64 caps for Ireland, scoring 11 times.
He could play some part in tomorrow's reserve game between Sunderland and Newcastle at the Stadium of Light (7pm).
Harte is Sunderland's 10th signing since they won promotion to the Premier League.
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men does still get one year contract? he n get ah parrot on a stick o wat
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Daz a good left footer dey get dey. Probably cover fuh Wallace or maybe even a natural left sided midfielder.
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Harte could hit free kicks too.
edit: just like they said lol
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Harte's left foot is deadly.....
Not sure what his other qualities are, but crossing and shooting- he have it dong...
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and then there were three...
Higginbotham for £3 million (http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13051)
Kenwyne Jones for £6 million and Stern :-\ (http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13052)
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Sunderland have completed the signing of Ian Harte on a one-year deal.
The former Leeds left-back, who has won 64 caps for the Republic of Ireland, joins the Black Cats as a free agent having impressed Roy Keane during a trial period with the club.
Keane told the club's official website: "I've played alongside Ian and I know the qualities he can bring to our club.
"You need a big squad in the Premier League and he will add strength to ours."
Harte spent nine years at Elland Road before joining Spanish outfit Levante on a free transfer in 2004.
The 29-year-old said: "It's great to be back in the Premier League and I'm raring to go, I want to get back playing as soon as possible.
"This is a good opportunity for me at a massive club like Sunderland, and there are plenty of Irish lads here to make me feel welcome."
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Seems like Keane is reluctant to play Kenwyne against ManUre ...
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13056
Injury problems mount for Keane
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane faces mounting injury problems ahead of his return to Manchester United on Saturday.
Keane is without Dean Whitehead and Carlos Edwards, and Kieran Richardson and Paul McShane - both ex-United players - are doubts.
Added to that, Greg Halford misses the trip to Old Trafford - he is banned after getting sent off at Luton.
Keane said: "Right-back is a problem for us - as well as a number of other positions with the injuries we have at the moment.
"Nyron Nosworthy has played there [right-back] before and he could move back, and it's not too soon for Michael Kay to be involved."
It would be a baptism of fire for Kay, the 17-year-old who has recently graduated from the youth team.
Keane added: "The injuries do not help but that's the way it is, we just have to deal with it. We'll have a look at one or two things in training in the next couple of days.
"I knew our squad would be tested, but to be tested to the limited within a couple of weeks of the season starting has been tough - Deano and Carlos are big, big losses for us. We have to keep going and keep digging."
New signing Kenwyne Jones has a slight hamstring injury but Keane hopes the striker will train today and prove his fitness ahead of the United game.
Danny Higginbotham - another former Red Devils player - will be included in the squad for the trip to the North-West.
Ian Harte, one of three new signings at Sunderland yesterday, is set to take part in tonight's reserve game with Newcastle at the Stadium of Light (7pm).
If he comes through it, the former Republic of Ireland player could be in the squad for Saturday's game.
Andrew Cole will not play tonight and is unlikely to feature in the Premier League on Saturday, against his former employers.
Keane said: "We have to be careful not to try to risk players because we are going to Man United. Let's be careful here because we have two weeks to play with after the game.
"It's the same with the likes of Danny [Higginbotham], Kenwyne and Hartey. I won't be taking any silly risks."
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I real hope Kenwyne get to play versus Men Utd...hope the injury is nothing too serious...score a goal and that is the perfect debut
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- The Number 14 goes to Higginbotham, one of the new defenders.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/6963704.stm
Man Utd v Sunderland
Old Trafford
Saturday, 1 September
Kick-off: 1715 BST
Coverage on the BBC Sport website, BBC Radio Five Live & highlights on Match of the Day.
Man Utd striker Louis Saha makes his long-awaited return to the squad after injury and Anderson could feature too.
Wayne Rooney (foot), Gary Neville (thigh) and Cristiano Ronaldo (banned) are out and Ole Solskjaer has retired.
Sunderland new boys Kenwyne Jones and Danny Higginbotham could play, though Jones has a slight hamstring problem.
Ian Harte and Andrew Cole are short of match fitness, Greg Halford is banned and Paul McShane (shoulder) and Kieran Richardson (back) are doubts.
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Man Utd (from): Van der Sar, Kuszczak, Heaton, Brown, Ferdinand, Vidic, O'Shea, Evra, Silvestre, Fletcher, Eagles, Carrick, Scholes, Hargreaves, Nani, Anderson, Giggs, Saha, Tevez.
Sunderland (from): Gordon, Ward, Nosworthy, Kay, McShane, Anderson, Higginbotham, Collins, Wallace, Etuhu, Yorke, Miller, Leadbitter, Richardson, Chopra, Jones, Stokes, Murphy, Connolly, O'Donovan.
Interesting Stats for Man Utd - Sunderland
CHOPRA is a hat trick shy of 50 career league goals (Newcastle, Watford, Barnsley, Cardiff and Sunderland).
Last season's top scorer David CONNOLLY needs one goal to total 100 in his league career (Watford, Wolves, Wimbledon, West Ham, Leicester, Wigan and Sunderland).
If he plays:-
Andrew COLE will be facing a former club. The 35 year old England international made 275 appearances (195 in the league) and scored 121 goals (93 league) for United between January 1995 and December 2001.
Kieran RICHARDSON will be opposing the club where he started his professional career. The 22 year old England international midfielder made 81 appearances (41 in the league) and scored 11 goals (two league) for the Old Trafford club before his close season move to Wearside.
Dwight YORKE will be playing against the club who paid Aston Villa £12.6m for him in August 1998. The 35 year old made 152 appearances (96 in the league) and scored 65 goals (48 league) for the Red Devils in four years at the Theatre of Dreams.
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right
"are we ready to rumble" ;)
lets go Sunlun
isnt de EPL GREAT!!
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looking at the replay on Setanta now and Sunderland were lookin good untill the 37th minute
when Dwight came off at 60 mins he looked good
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No panic - Yorke
SAFC.com
By Nick Alexander
(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/sep_07/safc_1188818521_yorkeunited.jpg)
Dwight Yorke says there is no panic at Sunderland despite them losing four games in a row.
The Black Cats went down 1-0 at Manchester United on Saturday and go into the international break having won four points from five Premier League games.
The Black Cats take on Reading at the Stadium of Light next, and Yorke, a former United player, is confident they will overcome the current difficult spell.
Yorke said: "We've got two weeks to assess it. The performance against United should stand us in good stead for the games ahead.
"The younger players will get a boost from the United display. We were disappointed to leave [Old Trafford] with nothing. We fought extremely well and the way we conceded was disappointing.
"You know what you are in for at Old Trafford - it's very difficult for an opposing team. United need just one opportunity and you are finished, that's how it worked out. If you lose concentration for a split second, they score.
"It's a new situation for the manager [Roy Keane], he is not used to losing games and neither are the players.
"We had a great year last year, we hardly lost a game, now we've lost four in a row.
"We've had five games in the Premier League and we know what kind of performances are needed. We have got to learn fast but I'm sure we will be fine.
"We have two weeks to work at things. There are a lot of new players and it will give us time to gel as a team and get ready for Reading."
Watch Dwight Yorke's full interview on SAFC TV
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Man Utd 1-0 Sunderland
By Andrew McKenzie
Substitute Louis Saha scored the winner as Manchester United edged out Roy Keane's Sunderland side.
Saha headed in at the near post from Nani's corner with 18 minutes to go after former United favourite Keane's side had frustrated the champions.
Black Cats keeper Craig Gordon had earlier brilliantly denied Saha while Nemanja Vidic volleyed over.
Sunderland rarely looked like getting on the scoresheet and Owen Hargreaves was close to adding a second.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/6963704.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13081
I'm relatively happy, Keane
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's defeat at Manchester United:
"When you lose 1-0 it's disappointing, especially when it comes from a set-piece, but that's the Premier League for you. One lapse in concentration and you concede a goal.
"It's disappointing but I'm relatively pleased with the players' efforts and performance levels.
"It would have been nice if we could have tested their keeper a bit more. We looked okay just before we conceded. We had had a warning a few minutes before from a corner and we got away with it, but not second time around.
"There was no doubt in my mind that there would be a reaction. The players did well, they seemed to enjoy it.
"Now we've got to produce that kind of performance in every game, not just in the big games and at the big stadiums. If we play at that level, we'll be fine for the rest of the season.
"We've had a disruptive week. One or two players are injured and it meant people had to play out of position.
"The players deserve extra plaudits, because one or two were playing out of position, and we had two making their debuts
"That considered, I'm relatively happy. But I've got to say it's difficult to be positive straight after a game when you have lost.
"They [the debutants] did very well. I would have liked us to get more support to Kenwyne Jones, but it's easier said than done when you are playing Man United at Old Trafford.
"Yorkie played very well - all the players gave it their all and it's all you ask for.
"It would have been nice to have more quality going forward, but it was not to be and we look forward to Reading.
"It's hard when you have lost. I'm grateful for the reception I got but I was focused on trying to win a football match.
"Four points from five games - I would like to have a few more [points] but we've had a difficult start. When you have Liverpool and Man United back-to-back, it's tough.
"I'm more than confident that we will be fine. We'll have one or two lads back and we can get them training. I'm confident we will be fine."
At least Keane is consistent, he's not afraid to single out players for good performances as well as bad ones...
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=30578.0)
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Hey, some Sunderland fan has come with this, hilarious! :rotfl:
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=269069
(To the tune of Bob Marley's "No Woman No Cry")
When Keano took over, He said to Quinn
Go get me Dwight Yorke from Sydney
Yorkie came over, he gave up the Sun
He wanted to play for Keane and Quinn
Then January Came, we need someone on the wing
Keane said Go get me Edwards Niall Quinn
He had really bad hair, but we didnt care
Cos he was a snip at one million - pounds, pounds
We won the league, We were happy
Then we signed mag called Michael Chopra
He scored the winner against Spurs
Mag roots? We dont care
But there was still something missing
Keano said to Quinn, we need a bit of power
You know a big lad in the shower
Quinny said why dont you go and ask Yorkie
Dwight Yorke were down to the bare bones
Dont worry gaffer go sign Kenwyne Jones
Everythings gonna be alright
Everythings gonna be alright
Yorke, Edwards, Jones at our club tonight
Everythings gonna be alright
SAFC
SAFC
To fade
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For those who didn't get to see it, check out the highlights of the Sun-Birm game (2-2), including de boss run by Carlos down de right flank, and Stern's goal.
http://media.putfile.com/BIRMINGHAM-2-SUNDERLAND-2
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lol, not bad, not bad :rotfl:
still waiting on the Sunderland Calypso (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=29850.0)
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lol @ Edwards has bad hair....ah guess the curlies don't go over too well with the Black Cats.
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nice ah love it.................buts interesting that with all our "culture" we dont even have ah lil one verse song for d national team much less club
to the ppl who lucky to have seen ah epl game in the flesh or any big game on the european stage...how do they come up with the songs and is there like ah song sheet or something how all them ppl does know d words ???
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nice nice nice :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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nice ah love it.................buts interesting that with all our "culture" we dont even have ah lil one verse song for d national team much less club
to the ppl who lucky to have seen ah epl game in the flesh or any big game on the european stage...how do they come up with the songs and is there like ah song sheet or something how all them ppl does know d words ???
well i know that in manchester at least there is a guy who brings out cds an thing and the songs sumtimes get caught on in the stadium. his name is peter boyle and i heard that most of his songs he tries out in the pubs before the fans start to us ethem in the matches. he said in an interview that he made a bet with a guy that he could get a song goin in a match without the fans havin any prior knowledge of the song and that he handed out song sheets and it caught on but i cant remember which song it is now. and alsoin the spetember 2007 issue of four four two there is a whole write up on the history of terrace chants
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Great little choon,
but really somebody has to tell them that we are not Jamaican ;)
extensive article here on Terrace Chants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_chant)
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where santa cruz? he had mih rollin in germany when he say dem english fans could make up a song about anyting...a train..a table...anyting.
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The simplest football chant consists of the name of the team chanted over and over again, with clapping inbetween. For example, "United" (clap-clap-clap), "United" (clap-clap-clap). Chants being nothing if not competitive, opposing fans may respond by shouting an insulting word during the clapping.
Another common clapping style is: "clap, clap, clap-clap-clap, clap-clap-clap-clap", followed by a two-syllable football team's name or nickname.
A further simple chant, used when a team is ahead, is the score repeated "two nil, two nil, two nil, two nil", particularly if one of the teams has scored recently, chanted to a tune approximating Amazing Grace.
One of the most famous football chants is 'Olé, Olé'. The word comes from bullfighting. After the bullfighter engages the bull with a capote it is used as expression of approval by the crowd. The chant is popular in football matches in Latin America and mainland Europe, especially in Spain and Italy. In France and Portugal, it is pronounced 'allez, allez'. It is often used by fans when their team is winning and 'Olé' is chanted each time one of their players touches the ball.
Chants can also be used to support particular players. A common one is "One Joseph Bloggs, there's only one Joseph Bloggs" (or whoever), to a tune approximating Guantanamera. When an England squad included two players called Gary Stevens the chant became "Two Gary Stevens, there's only two Gary Stevens". Another example would be English side Brighton and Hove Albion who's "two Kerry Mayos" chant comes from the fact that the player, Kerry Mayo also has a wife called Kerry, hence two Kerry Mayos. This illustrates the point that chants, while player related can also include non player specific elements. Conversely, during the late 1990s Arsenal fans would chant "Two Ian Wrights, there's only two Ian Wrights", in reference to their new signing Luís Boa Morte who bore a resemblance to Wright. Chicago Fire fans have used a similar version for striker Chad Barrett, who resembles Wayne Rooney). When Rangers goalkeeper Andy Goram was diagnosed as schizophrenic, Kilmarnock F.C. fans came up with the chant, "Two Andy Gorams, there's only two Andy Gorams". Another chant sung to the same tune is "Sing when you're winning, you only sing when you're winning", and (when an easy shot or a penalty is missed) "Score in a brothel, you couldn't score in a brothel".
An alternative chant to the tune of Go West (Pet Shop Boys) is "More noise in a library, more noise in a library". This is most often used by the away fans to a rather quiet set of home fans. The tune "Blue Moon" is used for the chant "Ten men, we've only got ten men" (when a team scores or plays surprisingly well despite having a man sent off) or, conversely, "Twelve men, you've only got twelve men" (when the referee is perceived to be biased to one team - acting as their 12th man). Most chants can be adapted to the name of almost any player.
The Gap Band's "Oops Upside Your Head" was adapted by Celtic's more hardline supporters as "Ooh! Aah! Up the 'RA! Say ooh ah up the 'RA!", where 'RA is an affectionate term for the IRA. This was adapted by Republic of Ireland fans into "Ooh! Aah! Paul McGrath!" (the "th" in McGrath being silent) and then by Leeds United fans as "Ooh! Aah! Cantona!". When Frenchman Cantona was sold to Manchester United, opposing fans sang "Ou est Cantona?". A more recent adaptation emerged in Australia following Perth Glory's signing of former Socceroo Stan Lazaridis - "We've got Stan the Man! Yeah we've got Stan the Man". It was also commonly used in the 1980s - a time when football violence was much more common than now - to threaten opposing supporters: 'You'll get a boot wrapped 'round your head, you'll get a boot wrapped 'round your head'.
The Duran Duran song Rio was adapted in several ways for Rio Ferdinand; in fact in 2002, fan Simon Le Bon (Duran Duran's lead singer) promised to re-record one of the football chants if the team won.
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I was looking into which of the upcoming matches by Sunderland would be televised in the U.S. Here is the match schedule and confirmed channel broadcasts as well as possible broadcasts. Setanta in the U.S only publishes their schedule 10 days in advance. Possibly on Setanta was inferred from the Setanta Ireland schedule. FSC’s schedule for Nov is not yet published.
15 Sept. 15:00 Sunderland – Reading Setanta 6:15 am PST
22 Sept. 15:00 Middlesbrough – Sunderland FSC 1:30 pm PST (delayed)
29 Sept. 15:00 Sunderland - Blackburn
7 Oct. 12:00 Arsenal – Sunderland possibly on Setanta 4:15 am PST
21 Oct. 16:00 West Ham – Sunderland FSC 8 am PST
27 Oct. 15:00 Sunderland - Fulham
5 Nov. 20:00 Man City – Sunderland possibly on Setanta 11:15 am PST
10 Nov. 12:45 Sunderland - Newcastle
24 Nov. 15:00 Everton – Sunderland
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Really nice song ... .
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nice ah love it.................buts interesting that with all our "culture" we dont even have ah lil one verse song for d national team much less club
Yuh looking for Maximus to hit you ah blow or what?
And what TNT we want a goal isn't ah chant ?
ps: when you copying and pasting put the link or wikipedia might sue you :D
Anyway in France I've heard some (clean) chants that seem to be very common
1 ) "Qui ne saute pas" (Whoever isn't jumping)
It goes somethng like "Qui-ne-sau-te-pas-n'est-pas-Ly-on (accompanied by 9 rapid handclaps) -"nais" (1 handclap)
I can't give you the tune but it has inspired this well known rock song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLRTXeFAZIw
That's the Olympique Lyon version.
There's equally an Olympique Marseille (Qui ne saute pas n'est pas Marseillais)version and a Toulouse FC version (Qui ne saute pas n'est pas Toulousain)
Adversaires have notably used it to needle fans of the opposing team, like in Paris when Paris Saint Germain beat Marseille in the French Cup Final two seasons ago
"Qui ne saute pas est Marseillais" (If you're not jumping you're from Marseilles)
2) Theres this crappy 80's song called life is life life is life (la la la la la) (Austrian group calle Opus). Apparently its pretty well known in France.
I've heard OL fans chanting Juninho's name to the same theme Ju-nin-ho (la la la la la) I suppose you can do it with other players names onces they have 3 syllables (works best for Brazilians)
3) I thought this was just a French thing but I heard it in Italy as well
The White Stripes' seven nation army bassline has become a football chant as well, with each note sung as "lo"
lo - lo lo lo lo - loooool lo , lo lo lo lo lo, lololol lo lo lo, and so on
4) PSG has a call and response thing that their fans do.
One side calls "All----ez Paris" and the other side calls "Paris----- est magique (Paris is magical) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45niBJ7B9dM
6) As the french are internationally known for their class, another nice taunt is the "Et ils sont ou, et ils sont ou, et ils sont ou les ---) Where are the --- ?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0n6wLMHyUc
or this version (ils sont ou les ---- (la la la la la la) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w6ru92QXc8 (you have to go to the 50th second to hear it)
7) When beating team 3-0 it is common to hear the "Et un - et deux - et trois - zero" (And One, and Two and Three Zero) They still can't get over 1998
8) If all else fails you can use the immortal "Allez les ----" of Allez les bleus (Go Blues) adding in the club teams nicknames instead of "les bleus", but it is rare.
French Ligue 1 team nicknames
Olympique Lyonnais - OL, Les gones
Olympique Marseille - OM
St Etienne (ASSE) - Les verts (The Greens)
Lille (LOSC) - Les Dogues (The Hounds)
Toulouse FC - Les violets (The Violets)
RC Lens - Les Sang er Or (The Blood and Golds)
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yeah i wasnt refering to a recorded song more refering to chants.............ok tnt we want ah goal is one of our chants...but just this one chant doesnt say much for d home of extempo kings
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LMAO......... this is too funny, but nice
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13115
Carlos hoping for Royals date
By Nick Alexander
Carlos Edwards could feature in Sunderland's home match with Reading next weekend.
Edwards is back in light training and is waiting for an update after going for a scan on his hamstring yesterday.
The Trinidad and Tobago winger has been sidelined since suffering a hamstring tear at Birmingham three and a half weeks ago.
Roy Keane, Sunderland's manager, said: "We hope Carlos has a chance for Reading. He's done a bit of light training this week but you have to be careful with a hamstring [injury] - anyone will tell you that.
"You think you are getting there, you push it and then you are out for a bit longer. He won't be doing too much over the next two or three days and we'll have to see next week."
Keane added: "Carlos has been a miss, he is a big player for us."
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SAFC.com
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13138
Richardson suffers stress fracture
/ News / News Archive / Richardson suffers stress fracture /
By Nick Alexander
Kieran Richardson is expected to be out of action for up to three months with a stress fracture of the back.
Richardson, signed from Manchester United in the summer, missed the game at Old Trafford 10 days ago after complaining of the injury and tests have revealed that it is worse than first feared.
Boss Roy Keane said: "We've had bad news on Kieran. He saw a specialist this week and he has a stress fracture of his back.
"We'll have more news after he sees a surgeon later today. I would have thought that he'll be out for two to three months.
"It's a major disappointment. Kieran was able to do elements of training but it affected him when he twisted or hit the ball hard.
"In the last week or two we were hoping that it might settle down, but clearly it's a lot more serious."
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I feel calling this team the Black Cats is a recipe for blight...
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How Richardson manage to break he back?
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13137
Edwards injury setback
By Nick Alexander
Carlos Edwards could miss Sunderland's next four games after suffering a setback in his bid to return from a hamstring injury.
Edwards was back in training after missing the past three matches with a hamstring tear.
But the Trinidad and Tobago winger broke down earlier this week with a similar type of injury.
Sunderland face games against Reading, Middlesbrough, Blackburn and Arsenal before going into another two-week international break and Edwards will do well to feature in any of them.
Boss Roy Keane said: "It's not the same injury but it's similar, in the same area. It's a setback for the lad and for us because he's a big player for us.
"It's the downside with hamstring injuries. We look at injuries, we look at players' recovery but one thing we don't do it push them too much, it's just one of those things.
"He had a week's running with the medical staff and then he trained with us, he was doing OK and then he walked off saying he felt something. It's a blow."
:'(
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news
Dem blight fuh true oui!
From The Times
September 13, 2007
Roy Keane starting to learn harsh facts of managerial life as injury woes mount
Jason Mellor
Roy Keane readily admits that, as a player, he had little time for the many managers he would see correlating a lack of achievement on the pitch with the numbers of walking wounded heading for the treatment table.
After suffering another bout of unwanted news on the injury front in what has proved to be a chastening return to life back in the top flight for Sunderland, the manager is beginning to feel sympathy towards those he used to chastise. Not that Keane is a man to make excuses. However, he may be forgiven for attempting to, after learning that two integral members of his midfield, Kieran Richardson and Carlos Edwards, will be unavailable for lengthy periods.
Richardson, a £5 million summer signing from Manchester United, is expected to be absent until shortly before Christmas after a troublesome back problem was diagnosed as a stress fracture. The England player met a specialist yesterday to map out his recovery programme.
Edwards, who had been aiming to return to action this weekend after missing the past four matches ? all defeats ? with a hamstring injury, will be sidelined for at least a similar number of matches after a setback in his rehabilitation.
“We hoped Kieran’s injury wasn’t going to be that bad, but the scans show he’s got a stress fracture of his back and I’d have thought he’ll be out for two to three months,” Keane said.
Sunderland could also be without Kenwyne Jones and Andrew Cole, the forwards, and Nyron Nosworthy, the defender, for the return to Barclays Premier League action on Saturday, at home to fellow strugglers Reading. “It’s a major disappointment,” Keane said. “Kieran was able to do elements of training, but it affected him when he twisted or hit the ball hard. We were hoping it might settle down, but clearly it’s a lot more serious.”
The news comes on top of the fact that Dean Whitehead, the captain, is likely to miss the remainder of the season after having knee surgery and Keane said: “I didn’t have much time for managers who would go on about injuries all the time, but I can appreciate a little more where they were coming from now.”
Edwards will be out until the international break next month and Keane said: “Carlos has had a setback, although it’s not the same injury as he had, but it’s a similar one.”
Whitehead suffered knee ligament damage in a fall during training last month, but Keane insisted that Edwards had not suffered a setback in similar circumstances or through attempting to return too quickly from the hamstring injury suffered by the Trinidad & Tobago player during the draw away to Birmingham City a month ago.
“Carlos had resumed training and it was possible he could have come into contention,” Keane said. “He felt something after training and we’re looking at him being out for another three weeks.”
A minute’s applause will be staged before the kick-off on Saturday to remember Ian Porterfield, who died on Tuesday from colon cancer aged 61. Nine members of Sunderland’s FA Cup-winning side from 1973, in which Porterfield scored the only goal to beat Leeds United, will gather in the centre circle with both sets of players to lead the tribute to the Scot, who also played for and managed Reading during his career. “It will be about celebrating Ian’s life and his achievements,” Niall Quinn, the Sunderland chairman, said.
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13162
Keane: We need character
Roy Keane has called on his Sunderland players to "show character" against Reading after slipping up in recent weeks.
The Black Cats are in desperate need of a positive result at the Stadium of Light tomorrow after a run of three straight defeats in the Premier League.
Sunderland and Reading go into it having won four points from their opening five League games this season.
And Keane knows it is the type of match Sunderland need to win if they are to have a good season.
He said: "We're under no illusions, if we want to do well this season we have to pick up points at home against teams like Reading.
"We've lost four in a row and it's never nice, but the last few games have been difficult. I would say the only real disappointment has been Wigan - apart from Luton in the cup.
"We need a win. It's an important game and we need to be at it. If you're not at it in the Premier League, you will lose.
"We need to make the most of our home advantage. You have to have a decent home record."
Reading finished eighth last season in their first season back in the top flight.
"They had an excellent season and it gives us all hope," said Keane. "They are a good side and if we want to beat them, we'll have to play really well."
Sunderland will perform in front of an emotionally charged crowd tomorrow as the club pays tribute to Ian Porterfield, the former midfielder and FA Cup hero who died this week.
Keane said: "The players will pay their respects like everyone else and then they have to focus on the game.
"It will be an emotional day but we've got to try to get a result, it's my job to make sure the players are switched on."
Craig Gordon and Paul McShane have returned from international duty unscathed and will feature tomorrow.
Danny Higginbotham and Kenwyne Jones are set to make their home debuts, Higginbotham alongside Nyron Nosworthy in the middle of the back-four.
Greg Halford, the former Reading player, is available after serving a one-game ban but he could have to settle for a place on the bench. McShane is expected to start at right-back.
Sounds like a starting lineup of Gordon, Macshane, Nosworthy, Higginbotham, Anderson,
Wallace, Ethuhu, Yorke, Leadbitter, Chopra, Jones
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13172
Whitehead gets a boost
Dean Whitehead has been told he could be back in training as early as November after having further tests on a knee injury.
Whitehead had resigned himself to missing most of the season with a damaged cruciate.
But after a consultation with the surgeon in Bradford on Thursday, things look better for the Black Cats captain.
The 25-year-old could be in training in eight weeks and is eyeing a Premier League return before Christmas.
He told Red and White, Sunderland's official matchday programme: "I was delighted to get some good news.
"I was pencilled in to have surgery but when my knee was looked at again it was revealed that I don't need it. I could be back in training by November. This is fantastic news for me."
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Sunderland 2-1 Reading
By Jonathan Stevenson
Sunderland's £6m striker Kenwyne Jones inspired his side to victory against Reading on a moving day for the Black Cats at the Stadium of Light.
Prior to kick off they paid their respects to 1973 FA Cup-winning scorer Ian Porterfield, who died on Tuesday.
Jones opened the scoring with his first Sunderland goal, a brilliant turn and sizzling finish from 25 yards out.
He laid on a second for Ross Wallace to slot home, before Dave Kitson headed home a late consolation for Reading.
It was an emotionally-charged afternoon on Wearside, as Sunderland bade farewell to one of their favourite sons.
Commentary of Porterfield's goal from the 1-0 win over Leeds was played over the tannoy system prior to kick off, followed by a rapturous minute's applause from the 39,272 present.
Once the game got under way, it seemed Sunderland were keen to honour the memory of a man who also managed Reading for 20 months until February 1991.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/6984883.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13178
A fitting tribute, Keane
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's win over Reading - and the tribute to Ian Porterfield:
"It was a fitting tribute, it finished the day off nicely. It was a great tribute before the game, and during the game.
"The players stayed focused and it was a nice way to finish the day off. I thought it was brilliant - and the Reading fans played their part. That round of applause during the game was very, very good, I have to say.
"It was a good home debut for Kenwyne. I thought he did well a couple of weeks ago, it was tough for him being on his own up front [at Manchester United], today he gave us something different.
"He worked very well with Chops [Michael Chopra], it was a very good debut. Kenwyne is still a young lad and we're not expecting miracles but it's nice that he's off the mark.
"I'm sure the fans enjoyed his performance today but we can't expect too much, too soon, he's a young player.
"I look at all the players and I thought they gave their lot today, that's all I ever ask, it's pleasing.
"The performances at Luton and Wigan were nowhere near what we hoped for, but against Birmingham, Tottenham, Liverpool and United, I didn't think it was that bad.
"The peformance was important today, the players showed that confidence and belief.
"I've said before, I believe it takes seven or eight games before teams are up and running. We've a lot of new players, we've injuries, so we shouldn't expect too much, too soon.
"You have to be patient. Most football fans are not patient and I haven't been the most patient in the past, but I have to learn.
"I have said before that the best way of paying your respects is winning a football match and hopefully he [Ian] will have been looking down, enjoying it.
"It's hard when a player is celebrating and he is enjoying it, but Ross [Wallace] did it twice last year and he was sent off for one of them. I can't be too angry because we won the game and we scored .. and he did well but he'll learn."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=30854.0)
Full Game (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=30866.0)
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13191
Jones voted top player
You voted home debutant Kenwyne Jones Sunderland's man of the match from their game against Reading.
Jones scored in the 2-1 win and the goal helped him scoop 73% of the votes in a poll here on safc.com.
Danny Higginbotham, another home debutant, came second in the poll with 10% of the votes and Ross Wallace was in third, with 9%.
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The view from wearside.
By: Lawrence Fulwell. (http://www.comeonboro.com/columns/111405.php)
Now then lads and lasses! Derby time is here at last and although we don’t have as much in the way of a disliking of the Boro as we do for those lot up the road, it will be nice for the might of Sunderland to come and stick one up yer.
I will be this week giving an in-depth review of the players from both sides, their strengths and weaknesses and preferred positions, if I can remember them all that is.
Right then, last week Sunderland were a joy to watch. I was all fantasying about the Sunderland lads well into the night, such was the performance.
Boro on the other hand somehow managed to get stuffed 3-0 by the cockneys of West Ham. I never saw the game like, but by all accounts the Boro were a tad unlucky.
Reading the papers on Sunday it was clear to see that the Boro huffed and puffed and did all the running but just couldn’t get it in at the crucial moment. Which reminds me of the time I tried to shag that lass at Butlins in Skegness when I was fifteen.
Anyway before we move on and look at the teams for Saturday, let's spare a thought for poor Newcastle and Big Sam. On second thoughts, let's not and just piss ourselves laughing at how bad they were against a Derby team who will be lucky to win again this season.
OK, moving on...
Sunderland should line up unchanged as follows;
Craig Gordon. A masterstroke of a signing by Roy Keane. Has been at the heart of every great Sunderland win this season… all two of them.
Paul McShane. Roy Keane knew this lad from his Old Trafford days and kept his eye on him. He has impressed me so far this season by only f**king up two or three times every game.
Nyron Nosworthy. Canny player this lad but he has the stupidest name in football. His parents can’t have thought he would be one day gracing the centre stage of football in Wearside or they would have called him Roy Keane or something.
Danny Higginbotham. This lad looked a great signing on paper... the way he curves his surname on his autograph is a joy to behold.
Danny Collins. This lad has played for us for a while now and it is fair to say his good times far outweigh his bad times as a player. I reckon he will be the difference between defeat and victory come Saturday, although exactly which is as hard to predict as one of his passbacks.
Grant Leadbitter. This is a local lad who will be playing with the passion of Wearside come Saturday. I just he is not as thick as the rest of us Mackems and gets lost on the way to the team coach.
Dickson Etuhu. What a stupid name. Has anybody told him it is back to front? Saying that he plays a bit back to front as well so it must be a Nigerian thing.
Dwight Yorke. Now this lad is a strange one. I remember when he was playing for Manchester United and shagging that bird with the big tits. Thing is he was a centre forward back then who used to score goals. For some reason he is now a centre midfielder who is as mobile as me on a Sunday morning after a heavy night in the club.
Ross Wallace. Joined us for free on the basis that he must be good as he played for Celtic. The jury is still out on him as yet, mind you they could be some time so I’m glad I’m not paying the judge's f**king overtime.
Kenwyne Jones. Now this lad looks the part. Reminds me of Len Shackleton in his prime, obviously when Len was working part time down the coal mine that is. Ken, as I call him could be the next big thing in Sunderland, although what the last big thing was is a f**king mystery to me like.
Michael Chopra. Now Big Chopper as I like to shout at him from the stands, is real strap-on lad with good feet and is good in the air. I think now that he has got the Geordie scumbag out of his system he is going to be a world beater.
Right that’s how Sunderland will line up and it is fair to say it looks a formidable prospect for any side, especially the Boro. My camp spy in Boro has leaked all over me the latest hot news from the Riverside. So using my expert knowledge of the game I will give you a rub down off the Boro lads. Boro will make a few changes to the team from Saturday but should line up as follows.
Mark Schwarzer. Prone to mistakes and is sure to gift Sunderland a chance as he drops yet another clanger in his box.
Luke Young. Is this the lad from Charlton? Scored his first Boro goal recently but it was in the wrong net. Must have thought he was back playing for Charlton.
Andrew Taylor. Never heard of him. Is he that Irish snooker player with the funny glasses?
Jonathan Woodgate. Decent player for an ex mag, however he has more injuries than I do when the social ask me if it is about time I signed off incapacity benefit.
David Wheater. Local lad this 'un I hear. Gig tall guy who likes to get forward and mix it about. I think Big Chopper will sort him out and bang him from behind early on and that will stop him coming up too fast I tell yer.
Stewart Downing. Great player this one. Has all the skill in the world and he learnt it from his time as Sunderland. He was recently quoted in the press as saying that his time at Sunderland was a bit of a cult.
Julio Arca. Now it will break the hearts of many a Sunderland fan to see him turn out against us on Saturday. Myself I always thought he was overated, even when I was calling for him to be named in the Argentina squad. I can't see him causing too much of a problem to the midfield prowess of Dwight Yorke.
Fabio Rochemback. I remember his debut against us two years ago and things have not improved since that rather bizarre start, when he kicked the ball into the river for no apparent reason. When he is about to take a free kick, NASA have a special code word to warn the space shuttles in orbit.
Gary O’Neil. New signing from Pompey and should replace the skipper Boateng but not in terms of passing ability. I heard the Pompey fans paid for his train fare to Teesside.
Mido. Scored against Newcastle and kicked off with the Mags fans. I think we should be careful about what we sing on Saturday, as obviously his English is better than his football. Bit of a nutcase and be careful with the scissors when he is around.
Tuncay Sanli. A hero in Turkey and the best player they have by all accounts. Mind you that is like being voted the best dressed man in Gateshead, for f**k's sake. Hit the bar more times than George Best against West Ham and now is sulking and wanting to go home.
So taking all that in, it is plain to see Sunderland should romp out 2-0 winners with a fine performance of attacking and free flowing football. That’s it from me. I will be back next week to discuss Sunderland’s big Riverside victory. Remember only Sunderland can say “We Are Sunderland!
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Mr. Lawrence Fulwell, as a great Queens Royalian would say, you is ah real eedyat.
big, long, wet, loud steeeeuuuups.
;D
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Kenwyne Jones. Now this lad looks the part. Reminds me of Len Shackleton in his prime, obviously when Len was working part time down the coal mine that is.
Not sure how to take this. I suppose if we made the inverse comment about Birchall on the TNT team to liken him to whatever energetic TNT defensive bulldog midfielder we had, I might not have noticed it, but something just sounds wrong here...
I guess if its any consolation, this excuse for a journalist who feels hes funny didn't spare either side...
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Kenwyne Jones. Now this lad looks the part. Reminds me of Len Shackleton in his prime, obviously when Len was working part time down the coal mine that is.
Not sure how to take this. I suppose if we made the inverse comment about Birchall on the TNT team to liken him to whatever energetic TNT defensive bulldog midfielder we had, I might not have noticed it, but something just sounds wrong here...
I guess if its any consolation, this excuse for a journalist who feels hes funny didn't spare either side...
It isn't a journalist.
It is a Boro fan site.
Don't take it on.
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that Shackleton was a good player
check here (http://www.bpafc.com/legends.php)
I like what he says here, ""I'm not biased when it comes to Newcastle - I don't care who beats them!"" ;D
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that Shackleton was a good player
check here (http://www.bpafc.com/legends.php)
Yeah but he is making fun of Kenwyne by comparing him to Shackelton's non-footballing prowess.
The author is just trying to be funny IMO.
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that Shackleton was a good player
check here (http://www.bpafc.com/legends.php)
Yeah but he is making fun of Kenwyne by comparing him to Shackelton's non-footballing prowess.
The author is just trying to be funny IMO.
Yeah, ya right that de guy tryin hard to be funny but I ent taking him on at all
We ALL know that KJ is a boss player and dont need to waste our time wid dis character.
just pointing out Shackelton's abilties on the pitch is worth reading about.
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that Shackleton was a good player
check here (http://www.bpafc.com/legends.php)
Yeah but he is making fun of Kenwyne by comparing him to Shackelton's non-footballing prowess.
The author is just trying to be funny IMO.
Perhaps I read it wrong, but I thought he was comparing Jones's skin colour to that of Shack after he had been down the pit.... :-X
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that Shackleton was a good player
check here (http://www.bpafc.com/legends.php)
Yeah but he is making fun of Kenwyne by comparing him to Shackelton's non-footballing prowess.
The author is just trying to be funny IMO.
Perhaps I read it wrong, but I thought he was comparing Jones's skin colour to that of Shack after he had been down the pit.... :-X
Thats what i understood...
Thanks for the heads up JDB. I guess not everyone with a pen should be entitled to be called a journalist...same goes for everyone with a keyboard
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and its middlesborugh Vs sunderland home team is listed first
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Middlesbrough Sunderland
(Vitalfootball.co.uk)
The Riverside
22nd September 2007
15:00
Sunderland take the short trip to Middlesbrough for their first derby match of the season.
A last a derby we haven`t had one of them for a while, so it would be nice to win so we can have the bragging rights on Wearside.
Middlesbrough Team News:
Jeremie Aliadiere, Robert Huth and Emanual Pogatetz are out.
Player to watch: Julio Arca
Julio will be out to get one over his former employers. The Argentinean is a skilful player who is very creative and hardworking. We will have to keep him quite to get something out of the game.
Sunderland Team News:
Dean Whitehead, Carlos Edwards, Russell Anderson, Stan Varga, Andrew Cole and Kieran Richardson are all out injured.
Roy Keane is expected to name an unchanged side for the 3rd consecutive game.
Player to watch: Kenwyne Jones
After scoring his first goal for the club last weekend the Trinidad and Tobago front man will be wanting to add to his tally, who would bet against him if they seen him play against Reading.
Match Facts & Stats
Last time we took the trip to the part of Yorkshire that clean air forgot, we won 2-0 Tommy Miller scored our first. Julio Arca then scored a cracking free kick, It`s a travesty to see Arca playing for the smog monsters I hope he has a bad game.
In our last six league games at The Riverside We have Won 1, Draw 2 and Lost 3
Ref Watch: Howard Webb
Match Prediction: I think this will be a tight game so I will have to go for 1-1 Draw
Next Fixtures: Sunderland V Blackburn Saturday 29th of September 2007
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>:( >:( Steups
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Allyuh men need to seriously lighten up...that's pure sardony at it's best.
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Game time like 10 rite . Gonna miss this game however ,enjoy forumites .
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Game time like 10 rite . Gonna miss this game however ,enjoy forumites .
Being aired at 4 pm EST on FSC in the US...if yuh here.
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Nice ,might kecth the second half then .
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Allyuh men need to seriously lighten up...that's pure sardony at it's best.
lord have mercy...
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13223
What a difference a year makes!
Sunderland's 2007-08 team photo is barely recognisable from the one taken 12 months ago. It has been a year of transformation at the Stadium of Light.
From the 32 players on Sunderland's 2006-07 line-up, only 11 survived when they gathered for this year's shot.
They are - Dwight Yorke, Dean Whitehead, Graham Kavanagh, Grant Leadbitter, Ross Wallace, Liam Miller, Nyron Nosworthy, Darren Ward, Daryl Murphy, Peter Hartley and Jake Richardson.
Stanislav Varga and David Connolly were due to attend the photo call but both missed it, Varga because of injury and Connolly due to illness.
Seventeen players have left the Stadium of Light since last season's photo.
They are - Tommy Miller (Ipswich), Rory Delap (Stoke), Chris Brown (Norwich), Jon Stead (Sheffield United), Ben Alnwick (Tottenham), Robbie Elliott (Hartlepool), Clive Clarke (Leicester City, loan), Kevin Smith (Dundee), Arnau (Falkirk), William Mocquet (unattached), Andy Welsh (Blackpool, via Totonto), Tobias Hysen (IFK Gothenburg), Stephen Elliott (Wolves), Stephen Wright (Stoke, loan), Kenny Cunningham (retired), Steve Caldwell (Burnley) and Neill Collins (Wolves).
As for the coaching staff, there are four new arrivals this year - Neil Bailey (first-team coach), Raimond van der Gouw (goalkeeping coach), Mike Clegg (strength and conditioning coach) and Scott Ainsley (fitness coach/sports scientist).
Roy Keane, Sunderland's manager, admits the changes have been unyielding and he is hoping his second year in charge will be more stable.
He said: "There have been lots of changes and I think lots of progress. That's football; it does change very, very quickly.
"You look at the photo we had last year to the people who are around now - lots and lots of changes, probably more at this club than at most other clubs.
"Hopefully there won't be that amount of changes over the next few years. We did have to make changes, we couldn't just sit back and hope things would get better.
"We had to go out there and be aggressive in changing the playing staff and one or two of the coaching staff."
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13221
Keane's Boro hope
Roy Keane eyed up his first derby as a manager and admitted: "It's just like any other game."
Sunderland go to Middlesbrough tomorrow when Keane will celebrate his 50th match in charge of the Black Cats.
But there will be no special approach just because it is the Tees-Wear derby.
He said: "I'm well aware that it is important to the fans, they want the bragging rights for the area, though it's a bigger issue when we play Newcastle.
"But I tried to go into every game as a player with exactly the same mentality. I just want to beat the opposition, no matter who they might be. This game is no different.
"If we win tomorrow we get three points, not four or five - just the same as if we were playing Liverpool, Newcastle or Manchester United, things don't change in that respect.
"I think you have to stay focused and treat every opponent with respect, be they at the top or bottom of the league, local rivals or otherwise.
"But I've got to say I'm looking forward to the game and I'm pleased that we are going into it on the back of a good result."
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Sunderland score .. Leadbitter i think
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tvants doh have it ??? ??? ???
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Sunderland score .. Leadbitter i think
Yeah, he scored in the 2nd minute
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Video links anyone??
anyone??
here is an audio link for Sunderland
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
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Game tied. 1-1
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Dwight like he just mash up the goalscorer on a fair challenge
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sunderland sound like they playing too much long ball - they need to get KJ more involved
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fsc showing d game 4:30 Et time
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that ref real messing up
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that ref real messing up
For real, but somebody will get send off before the end
Oh shit, boro just score
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2-1 Boro :(
Sunderland, We need TWO Goals!!!!
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2-1 Boro :(
Sunderland, We need TWO Goals!!!!
i think they would be happy with 1..
Dwight off/Stokes on
Come on Kenwyne!
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Stueps... Boro scored... Downing
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sunderland pull another houdini :devil:
Miller with a cracker!
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CRACKER...Miller.....2-2
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Sunderland score....Miller...
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Would be nice if Sunderland cull pull out another one.
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Game done. Did Nyron play today. Miller goal sound like it was a cracking goal and Downing too. i go watch it later on FSC..
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Nosworthy didn't play. Higginbotham, halford, mcshane and collins make up the back 4.
Both goals sounded explosive...
and kj get the credit for the assis on miller, as he headed the ball down to him before he blast it in
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Nosworthy didn't play. Higginbotham, halford, mcshane and collins make up the back 4.
Both goals sounded explosive...
and kj get the credit for the assis on miller, as he headed the ball down to him before he blast it in
He get benched just so or he injuried?
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Nosworthy didn't play. Higginbotham, halford, mcshane and collins make up the back 4.
Both goals sounded explosive...
and kj get the credit for the assis on miller, as he headed the ball down to him before he blast it in
He get benched just so or he injuried?
if he get injured it happen real late. However, he wasn't even on the bench
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highlights?
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highlights?
patience young grasshopper
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and kj get the credit for the assis on miller, as he headed the ball down to him before he blast it in
...he also did ah li'l falling-dong-half screen on he man allowing Miller ah li'l bit more room tuh shoot thru dat tire. Talk abou a small window, thru a crowd...upper right vee...Schwarzer didn't have a chance.
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Sunderlands Team Photo
http://www.safc.com/uploads/documents/sep_07/safc_1190293749_Team_Wallpaper.pdf
zoom
midknight can u put up the standings .
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http://media.putfile.com/MIDDLESBROUGH-2-SUNDERLAND-2
Highlights.
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nosworthy was injured...so sunderland doing very well when 1 really considers the quality( wrt their side) and amount of players they have injured
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Sunderlands Team Photo
http://www.safc.com/uploads/documents/sep_07/safc_1190293749_Team_Wallpaper.pdf
zoom
midknight can u put up the standings .
good talk. It will be on the first page after today's matches like all the other vital information. and like the wallpaper that I have already put up ;D
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Middlesbrough 2-2 Sunderland
By Andrew McKenzie
Liam Miller's 89th-minute goal snatched a point for Sunderland in a thrilling 125th Tees-Wear derby.
Sunderland took the lead after 75 seconds when Michael Chopra's shot hit Grant Leadbitter and fell kindly for him to slot past Mark Schwarzer.
Boro equalised when Gary O'Neil's cross was headed in by Julio Arca and then Stewart Downing drilled past Craig Gordon from 25 yards out.
But with time running out Miller fired in a left-foot shot from 20 yards.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/6996754.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13233
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's 2-2 draw at Middlesbrough:
"I think we deserved a point, mind Gareth [Southgate] might think differently. Overall, we deserved something.
"We probably scored too early, we didn't know what to do and we got sloppy. I thought the game had 1-1 written all over it. It's always nice to get something, especially when it comes late in the game.
"There were a few [controversial] decisions, a few tackles, but I don't mind that, it's a derby match, I enjoy that side. We could have passed it better.
"Liam [Miller] has been doing good in training so it was touch and go whether I started him. It was a good goal.
"It's nice to get an early goal - we have not got too many since I got the job. After that, we struggled, we lacked experience, someone to put their foot on the ball.
"We looked like we wanted to hold onto it and you can't do it for that length of time.
"It was written in the script that [Julio] Arca was going to score. I hope the lad is OK.
"I have to say that at 1-1 I thought it would take a spectacular goal to win it. [Stewart] Downing did it and after that it needed something special from us. Liam produced it.
"When you play these matches, you know they are going to be tough. It was stop-start, there were plenty of bookings. I've played in these type of games before and I thought it was going to be a 1-1 draw.
"It was a fantastic strike from their lad and from Liam - they were the highlights of the game. If we had lost it would have been one step forward from last week and two back.
"Come the end of the season, this point might be vital. It's good to get something out of the game when it's so late, it's pleasing and we can play a lot better than today."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=31011.0)
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13242
Etuhu banned for Rovers
By Nick Alexander
Dickson Etuhu will miss Sunderland's game against Blackburn Rovers on Saturday after picking up his fifth yellow card of the season.
Etuhu was booked against Middlesbrough, taking his card count to five, which means an automatic one-game ban.
He said: "I've been a bit unlucky with one or two of the bookings, I'm gutted to pick up a suspension so early in the season. Whoever comes in, I wish him all the best."
The former Norwich midfielder has also been shown a yellow card in the Black Cats' games against Birmingham, Wigan, Liverpool and Luton. He is the first Premier League player to reach five yellow cards this season.
Liam Miller, who scored after coming off the bench at the Riverside Stadium, is favourite to replace Etuhu against Rovers.
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13248
Knee problem for Nyron
Roy Keane hopes that Nyron Nosworthy will recover from a knee injury in time for Saturday's game against Blackburn.
The injury forced Nosworthy to miss Sunderland's game against Middlesbrough last weekend and cost the centre-back his ever-present tag this season.
But Keane has suggested that the Londoner could be back against Rovers at the Stadium of Light.
The Black Cats boss said: "We hope Nuggsy's OK. He had a knee problem before the Reading game and got through it but he couldn't train all week after that.
"We had hoped he would be alright for Boro but we decided not to risk him. When Nyron misses training you know it must be sore. Hopefully he will be OK for our game against Blackburn."
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13269
You need tough lads, Keane
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane believes his Sunderland players are showing the toughness required to stay in the Premier League.
The Black Cats boss reckons much of modern-day football has gone soft, with too many players happy to spend time in the treatment room.
A number of Sunderland's key performers have suffered long-term injuries in the opening weeks of the season - Keane had just 14 first-teamers training this week.
And he says the situation would have been worse had it not been for the attitude of some of his 'fit' players.
"You need tough lads and to be fair a lot of ours are," said Keane. "We had Paul McShane playing with an injury a few weeks ago and I know plenty of our other lads are playing with strains and knocks.
"Some of our players have been training when they are injured - that's where the character comes into it and the tough lads get on with it.
"You need lads like that. It should take a lot to stop you from wanting to play every weekend, wanting to play for Sunderland in front of big crowds, that's my attitude towards it."
Keane added: "It's rare that you go into a game 100 per cent fit. The speed and pace of it, you get tackled a lot harder, from different angles, it's so obvious that you are going to pick up knocks.
"To me it's a case of just dealing with it and getting on with it, and not playing the sympathy one.
"OK, if you have an injury like Deano's, Nuggsy's last week or Carlos's, then you can't play - you treat the players and you try to get them right.
"But if lads think they are going to go into game in tip-top condition, it's not going to happen; the nature of this game doesn't let you do that.
"There are not many players in the Premier League at this moment in time that could say they are 100 per cent fit.
"If your leg's broken, fair enough; but players these days have just got to get on with it and be a bit tougher, not be spending so much time on the treatment table.
"You get out there - you are playing in front of 40-odd thousand people and the adrenalin kicks in. If that doesn't get you going, then something is wrong."
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Standings before the Blackburn Match (29/09/07)
| Position | Team | Played | Goal Difference | Points |
| 5 | Newcastle | 6 | 4 | 11 |
| 6 | Chelsea | 7 | -1 | 11 |
| 7 | West Ham | 6 | 3 | 10 |
| 8 | Aston Villa | 6 | 3 | 10 |
| 9 | Everton | 7 | 0 | 10 |
| 10 | Blackburn | 6 | 1 | 9 |
| 11 | Portsmouth | 7 | 0 | 9 |
| 12 | Wigan | 7 | 1 | 8 |
| 13 | Midlesborough | 7 | -2 | 8 |
| 14 | Birmingham | 7 | -2 | 8 |
| 15 | Sunderland | 7 | -4 | 8 |
| 16 | Reading | 7 | -6 | 7 |
| 17 | Fulham | 7 | -2 | 6 |
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Sunderland 1-2 Blackburn
By Peter Scrivener
Blackburn scored twice in two minutes to maintain their unbeaten start to the league season away from Ewood Park.
A dull first half only sparked into life in the last five minutes when Sunderland striker Michael Chopra had a penalty appeal turned down.
But within 10 minutes of the restart, David Bentley had smashed Rovers in front and Roque Santa Cruz slammed a second into an empty net.
Grant Leadbitter's low 25-yard sidefoot shot was too late to spark a revival.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7008201.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13280
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's defeat to Blackburn:
"I thought we deserved more out of the game. The way we conceded was disappointing, the players gave it their all and with a bit of luck we could have got something, it wasn't to be.
"Every goal you concede is disappointing, the first certainly was and the second one was a big blow. When it's 1-0, I was thinking we have a chance - especially with our record of late goals and being at home.
"So the second one was the killer blow. Even so, there was more than enough time and with another five minutes on the clock we might have got something.
[On the penalty appeal] "Chops feels he got the ball before the keeper made contact, but it would be wrong to blame that on costing us the game. The referee made his call, we have to accept it.
"Games like this are all part of the learning process.
"They are an experienced Premier League team and today there were one or two lessons, in terms of when to play and when not to play.
"After conceding the first, we should have kept our heads because there was plenty of time left.
"When a player makes a mistake, there's not much you can do about it. I was more disappointed with the first goal. The lad has run about 20 or 30 yards without anyone touching him.
"I thought the first half was evenly matched. They started well - teams are going to come here and have decent spells - but overall, I felt we deserved something better.
"When you go two goals behind, it's always going to be tough.
"The lads gave it their all and some of our general play was very good. It was one of those days for us - the two soft goals cost us.
"It's all about putting the ball in the back of the net. We gave two bad goals away, you can't do it in the Premier League.
"The players gave it their all and it's small comfort for me. If you do that, you've got a chance and we'll look to bounce back next week."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=31174.0)
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man he say 'de players give it their all' real times boy. alyuh fellaz who see de game, wha allyuh tink?
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An updated schedule for viewers in the US
7 Oct. 12:00 Arsenal – Sunderland Setanta 3am-6:30 am PST ( KO 4 am)
21 Oct. 16:00 West Ham – Sunderland FSC 8 am PST
27 Oct. 15:00 Sunderland - Fulham
5 Nov. 20:00 Man City – Sunderland possibly on Setanta 11:15 am PST
10 Nov. 12:45 Sunderland - Newcastle
24 Nov. 15:00 Everton – Sunderland
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_wed/7027402.stm
Kavanagh wants to stay with Owls
Sunderland midfielder Graham Kavanagh says that he would like to extend his stay at Sheffield Wednesday.
Kavangah's initial one-month loan deal from the Black Cats runs out after the game against Stoke on 20 October.
The 33-year-old told BBC Radio Sheffield: "I feel I'm getting stronger all the time and starting to stamp my influence games.
"If Wednesday ask me to stay and Sunderland allow it then I'd like to stay because I've enjoyed it here."
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ah :praying: fuh an upset.
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any links?
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van persie freekick goal...if sunderland keep this under 3 ah will give them the 3 pts
unlike barcelona arsenal goes for maximum goals
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Is it me, but why does Sunderland's goalie look like he does save with alligator hands when balls hit straight at him. Anybody notice how his hands doh really extend. Sunderland need to keep chucking the ball up there to Jones the way Ckelski does do with Drogba. Also Sunderland seems to lack a sense of urgency, like they still playing in the championship! Damn sometimes is hard to watch.
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arsenal 2 sunderland 1half time
sunderland gave ah good account of themselves after the 1st 15 mins
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Nice game good football by both sides.. Jones giving them a run and Dwight impressive
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http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=
KJ get the assist on the Sunlun goal
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and he get the equalizer
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kenwyn!!! 2-2......... but arsenal wud still win....
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Jones!!!!
2-2
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goalsssoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
goalassoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
game on first team to score 2 on arsenal in a long time
must be a dream to score against arsenal
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arsenal's defence including the keeper is not that strong. Go Sunderland!
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apparently all ah have to do is drop a striker on mih fantasy team for him to score. First benjani, now KJ. Oh well, I have to be happy for him, I guess :-\
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Yo....sunderland having the game of their season so far, and our 2 Trinis representing big time!
Jones score at de Emirates yes.....lovely, lovely, lovely! :applause: :applause: :applause:
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apparently all ah have to do is drop a striker on mih fantasy team for him to score. First benjani, now KJ. Oh well, I have to be happy for him, I guess :-\
i did drop benjani b4 he score d hattrick :'( :'( :'( but jones gurranteed to start and play atleast 75 mins a game......that said goals must come his way ah go car drop him
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Jones!!!!
2-2
:o :o :o :o
Go Kenwyne....nice VERY nice
kenwyn!!! 2-2......... but arsenal wudSunderland may still win....
:shameonyou:
;D
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Van Persie score 3-2
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Damn,
Pressure does buss pipe.
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steups
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Senderos can't really handle Jones, but then again, is Senderos.
In all seriousness though, a season for Jones in the prem will make post-blacklist T&T an exciting prospect.
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apparently all ah have to do is drop a striker on mih fantasy team for him to score. First benjani, now KJ. Oh well, I have to be happy for him, I guess :-\
You? After I drop Van Persie de man decide tuh start scoring goals....same fuh Ronaldo *steups*
Good account by Sunderland though...I hope this represents a change in form. I would like nothing better than to be wrong about them the rest of the way.
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Sunderland...we want a GOAL!!!!!!!!!
5 mins et
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apparently all ah have to do is drop a striker on mih fantasy team for him to score. First benjani, now KJ. Oh well, I have to be happy for him, I guess :-\
i did drop benjani b4 he score d hattrick :'( :'( :'( but jones gurranteed to start and play atleast 75 mins a game......that said goals must come his way ah go car drop him
If you were seriously expecting him to score against Arsenal more credit to you.
That said, I wasn't dropping him for good. Just giving him a rest this wekend anticipating another beatdown for Derby. Ah couldn't drop any other striker without unbalancing the team...
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crap. McShane Red card....will probably miss 3 games as well
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If Sunderland have to lose, Fabregas could at least score a goal >:(
edit : Adebayor is one shit hound ::)
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Sunderland certainly playing much better now than at the start of the season, and the addition of Carlos could only make them better.
Maybe Roy need to get a shorter tie. ;D
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#9 Stokes is a pull stones and damn shitsnake! Aint make decent play since coming on! Arsneal have their cut arse booked! Dey gettin away with shit now!
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Sunderland certainly playing much better now than at the start of the season, and the addition of Carlos could only make them better.
Maybe Roy need to get a shorter tie. ;D
he wears the ugliest ties :rotfl:
GREAT game Sunderland
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Sunderland certainly playing much better now than at the start of the season, and the addition of Carlos could only make them better.
yeah, but that MCshane red card not going to make life any easier for them
He probably not going to be there for any of West Ham(A), (H)Fulham, (H)Tottenham...
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apparently all ah have to do is drop a striker on mih fantasy team for him to score. First benjani, now KJ. Oh well, I have to be happy for him, I guess :-\
You? After I drop Van Persie de man decide tuh start scoring goals....same fuh Ronaldo *steups*
Good account by Sunderland though...I hope this represents a change in form. I would like nothing better than to be wrong about them the rest of the way.
jus wake up and want to say....
ahhhh hush yuh ass!!
ohhh bout "learn to put yuh front foot in front yuh puppy foot", and "kenwyne need to hush he ass and play", and "who's kenwyne to talk"...
look de man back up all he "so called" with a goal and assist...
and if you look at the replay of the celebration closely, you can actually see him mouthing, "bake and shark hymc" :D
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and if you look at the replay of the celebration closely, you can actually see him mouthing, "bake and shark hymc" :D
allya men does stay awake all night thinking up dis shit :rotfl: :devil: :rotfl: :devil:
Sunderland will be playing some serious ball when all their injuries come back......
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:rotfl: 4 real
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Ahem....
Jones good for at least 1 goal.
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: oohhhh gaaddddd
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apparently all ah have to do is drop a striker on mih fantasy team for him to score. First benjani, now KJ. Oh well, I have to be happy for him, I guess :-\
You? After I drop Van Persie de man decide tuh start scoring goals....same fuh Ronaldo *steups*
Good account by Sunderland though...I hope this represents a change in form. I would like nothing better than to be wrong about them the rest of the way.
jus wake up and want to say....
ahhhh hush yuh ass!!
ohhh bout "learn to put yuh front foot in front yuh puppy foot", and "kenwyne need to hush he ass and play", and "who's kenwyne to talk"...
look de man back up all he "so called" with a goal and assist...
and if you look at the replay of the celebration closely, you can actually see him mouthing, "bake and shark hymc" :D
Did they beat Arsenal? Exactly what did he back up, pray tell? Sunderland played their best game of the season and came close to upsetting Arsenal...good for them. I have no interest in rekindling any talk about what he said from what he shouldn't have said...or how he should celebrate. I also don't have time to waste gloating on a messageboard over shit that doesn't benefit me in any real way...but I understand you have tuh take yuh small victories wherever yuh feel yuh could get them.
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apparently all ah have to do is drop a striker on mih fantasy team for him to score. First benjani, now KJ. Oh well, I have to be happy for him, I guess :-\
You? After I drop Van Persie de man decide tuh start scoring goals....same fuh Ronaldo *steups*
Good account by Sunderland though...I hope this represents a change in form. I would like nothing better than to be wrong about them the rest of the way.
jus wake up and want to say....
ahhhh hush yuh ass!!
ohhh bout "learn to put yuh front foot in front yuh puppy foot", and "kenwyne need to hush he ass and play", and "who's kenwyne to talk"...
look de man back up all he "so called" with a goal and assist...
and if you look at the replay of the celebration closely, you can actually see him mouthing, "bake and shark hymc" :D
Did they beat Arsenal? Exactly what did he back up, pray tell? Sunderland played their best game of the season and came close to upsetting Arsenal...good for them. I have no interest in rekindling any talk about what he said from what he shouldn't have said...or how he should celebrate. I also don't have time to waste gloating on a messageboard over shit that doesn't benefit me in any real way...but I understand you have tuh take yuh small victories wherever yuh feel yuh could get them.
man just eat yuh words and hush yuh ass nuh...
try it with some water, it will make it much easier goin down de hatch...
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What a game by Kenwyne. He will not be with Sunderland come next season. A big team will come in for him.
Remember Jahyouth say that.
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man just eat yuh words and hush yuh ass nuh...
try it with some water, it will make it much easier goin down de hatch...
And exactly what words do I have to eat Omarldumbho? Did I miss something...did Sunderland beat Arsenal?
It says a lot that you "jus wake up" and first thing on yuh mind is some next man on de internet...unfortunately for you I not into fags. Before yuh look tuh brush yuh teeth or wash yuh ass you looking to come sniff after man bottom, muss be getting real claustrophobic in yuh little closet there.
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man just eat yuh words and hush yuh ass nuh...
try it with some water, it will make it much easier goin down de hatch...
And exactly what words do I have to eat Omarldumbho? Did I miss something...did Sunderland beat Arsenal?
It says a lot that you "jus wake up" and first thing on yuh mind is some next man on de internet...unfortunately for you I not into fags. Before yuh look tuh brush yuh teeth or wash yuh ass you looking to come sniff after man bottom, muss be getting real claustrophobic in yuh little closet there.
Ain't have no words to be eaten- daz small man business, but yuh ruff up Jonesy unnecessarily in the last thread man.....He never said they'll beat Arsenal. He said they could give them some trouble if they play to their potential, and it sounds like they did give them a lil trouble, and at least made the game interesting. He also mentioned taking some points if they do what they could do- sounds like that they came close to taking 2 pts away from the Gunners...so the "gun talk" (which wasn't really gun talk to me), ended up not being too outta timin', and Jones with a goal & an assist sounds like he did all he could to back up his positive outlook on the team's potential/chances, and that's really all yuh could ask of the youth...like yuh say, EOD, everybody happy to see KJ do well....too bad they couldn't hold out for a point....
btw- yuh reds have a lil task ahead of them- down a goal to Spurs with less than 20mins....at Anfield...trust that yuh tuned in :beermug:
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well done KJ an sunderland unlucky wit de result.....
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Ain't have no words to be eaten- daz small man business, but yuh ruff up Jonesy unnecessarily in the last thread man.....He never said they'll beat Arsenal. He said they could give them some trouble if they play to their potential, and it sounds like they did give them a lil trouble, and at least made the game interesting. He also mentioned taking some points if they do what they could do- sounds like that they came close to taking 2 pts away from the Gunners...so the "gun talk" (which wasn't really gun talk to me), ended up not being too outta timin', and Jones with a goal & an assist sounds like he did all he could to back up his positive outlook on the team's potential/chances, and that's really all yuh could ask of the youth...like yuh say, EOD, everybody happy to see KJ do well....too bad they couldn't hold out for a point....
btw- yuh reds have a lil task ahead of them- down a goal to Spurs with less than 20mins....at Anfield...trust that yuh tuned in :beermug:
yeah man ah was watching Torres save we ass dey...unspirited 2nd half play by Liverpool, especially considering how they dominated the first half.
Kenwyne did his thing I will never be vex with that. You say I ruff him up...I disagree. Even with today's game I will still contend that neither Kenwyne nor Sunderland has yet earned the right to be comparing themselves to an Arsenal, ManU. or Liverpool. On any given day anything can happen...this we all know. Considering how poor Sunderland has played all season his comments stood out even further in contrast. There's something to be said about confidence and what not, but there's a limit...this is a team 5 off the bottom, who lost 0-3 to both Wigan and frigging Luton for crying out loud. You can't beat Luton you can't beat Wigan but you think you can beat Arsenal?? That was my point...irrespective of their final showing.
There's been enough talk coming out of Sunderland to fill an entire season as is...everybody need to shut up and win already.
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Hilites.
http://www.soccerblog.com/2007/10/videoarsenal_3_sunderland_2.htm
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it not working
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Ain't have no words to be eaten- daz small man business, but yuh ruff up Jonesy unnecessarily in the last thread man.....He never said they'll beat Arsenal. He said they could give them some trouble if they play to their potential, and it sounds like they did give them a lil trouble, and at least made the game interesting. He also mentioned taking some points if they do what they could do- sounds like that they came close to taking 2 pts away from the Gunners...so the "gun talk" (which wasn't really gun talk to me), ended up not being too outta timin', and Jones with a goal & an assist sounds like he did all he could to back up his positive outlook on the team's potential/chances, and that's really all yuh could ask of the youth...like yuh say, EOD, everybody happy to see KJ do well....too bad they couldn't hold out for a point....
btw- yuh reds have a lil task ahead of them- down a goal to Spurs with less than 20mins....at Anfield...trust that yuh tuned in :beermug:
yeah man ah was watching Torres save we ass dey...unspirited 2nd half play by Liverpool, especially considering how they dominated the first half.
Kenwyne did his thing I will never be vex with that. You say I ruff him up...I disagree. Even with today's game I will still contend that neither Kenwyne nor Sunderland has yet earned the right to be comparing themselves to an Arsenal, ManU. or Liverpool. On any given day anything can happen...this we all know. Considering how poor Sunderland has played all season his comments stood out even further in contrast. There's something to be said about confidence and what not, but there's a limit...this is a team 5 off the bottom, who lost 0-3 to both Wigan and frigging Luton for crying out loud. You can't beat Luton you can't beat Wigan but you think you can beat Arsenal?? That was my point...irrespective of their final showing.
There's been enough talk coming out of Sunderland to fill an entire season as is...everybody need to shut up and win already.
Benitez need to stop he power trip and hire someone to replace the departed Paco. He talking bout he divide up de man duties and dat he is not an "office manager"; that he does be on the traiing pitch. Bullshit! Since he long time right hand Paco leave, I have seen a drop in performance level. He better get it right, cause it have other good managers out there that would love to manage 'Pool with big new stadium to come.
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where allyuh see that as an assist
allyuh really is computer footballers
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i expected Arsenal to walk through.... but well done Jones and Yorkie...
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Benitez need to stop he power trip and hire someone to replace the departed Paco. He talking bout he divide up de man duties and dat he is not an "office manager"; that he does be on the traiing pitch. Bullshit! Since he long time right hand Paco leave, I have seen a drop in performance level. He better get it right, cause it have other good managers out there that would love to manage 'Pool with big new stadium to come.
I doh even know what to say about Liverpool's current run nah. Overall I still think the train is on the right track...but these two performances, at home no less...are disappointing. We were thoroughly outplayed by Marseille on Wednesday, and today Keane did a great job at capitalizing on his opportunities, can't say the same for us. Voronin was on the spot in cleaning up Gerrard's free kick, but I think he was being a bit too generous by laying off to Gerard instead of bussin' de net one time. Then Gerrard touch abandoned him and he allowed the defender to get into position and block the low shot. It was a hard luck play that the upright saved Robinson off Gerrard's second free kick attempt. I like Pennant, but he couldn't come off the pitch fast enough fuh me today. Babel needs more run...period. Same for Kuyt...maybe they was resting him.
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where allyuh see that as an assist
allyuh really is computer footballers
His shot created the rebound for Wallace...I just recounting what they crediting him for.
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Kenwyne did his thing I will never be vex with that. You say I ruff him up...I disagree. Even with today's game I will still contend that neither Kenwyne nor Sunderland has yet earned the right to be comparing themselves to an Arsenal, ManU. or Liverpool. On any given day anything can happen...this we all know. Considering how poor Sunderland has played all season his comments stood out even further in contrast. There's something to be said about confidence and what not, but there's a limit...this is a team 5 off the bottom, who lost 0-3 to both Wigan and frigging Luton for crying out loud. You can't beat Luton you can't beat Wigan but you think you can beat Arsenal?? That was my point...irrespective of their final showing.
There's been enough talk coming out of Sunderland to fill an entire season as is...everybody need to shut up and win already.
:rotfl: :rotfl: this shud be in de joke section :rotfl:
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Ain't have no words to be eaten- daz small man business, but yuh ruff up Jonesy unnecessarily in the last thread man.....He never said they'll beat Arsenal. He said they could give them some trouble if they play to their potential, and it sounds like they did give them a lil trouble, and at least made the game interesting. He also mentioned taking some points if they do what they could do- sounds like that they came close to taking 2 pts away from the Gunners...so the "gun talk" (which wasn't really gun talk to me), ended up not being too outta timin', and Jones with a goal & an assist sounds like he did all he could to back up his positive outlook on the team's potential/chances, and that's really all yuh could ask of the youth...like yuh say, EOD, everybody happy to see KJ do well....too bad they couldn't hold out for a point....
btw- yuh reds have a lil task ahead of them- down a goal to Spurs with less than 20mins....at Anfield...trust that yuh tuned in :beermug:
yeah man ah was watching Torres save we ass dey...unspirited 2nd half play by Liverpool, especially considering how they dominated the first half.
Kenwyne did his thing I will never be vex with that. You say I ruff him up...I disagree. Even with today's game I will still contend that neither Kenwyne nor Sunderland has yet earned the right to be comparing themselves to an Arsenal, ManU. or Liverpool. On any given day anything can happen...this we all know. Considering how poor Sunderland has played all season his comments stood out even further in contrast. There's something to be said about confidence and what not, but there's a limit...this is a team 5 off the bottom, who lost 0-3 to both Wigan and frigging Luton for crying out loud. You can't beat Luton you can't beat Wigan but you think you can beat Arsenal?? That was my point...irrespective of their final showing.
There's been enough talk coming out of Sunderland to fill an entire season as is...everybody need to shut up and win already.
Well I guess it comes down to interpretation- I still don't think he was comparing Sun'lun to the big guns, nor did he say they could just beat Arsenal (he said they could take points and it was qualified with a big IF which made the difference)... to me he was just communicating a positive outlook on the team's chances ahead of the clash- totally fair in my opinion....anyways ent worth the long talk..
....Yeah Liverpool didn't have their best showing and it seems like they not firing on all the cylinders that were churning at the beginning of the year- plus they were playing against a team that is basically fighting for their lives...every game is a playoff game for Spurs...they (Liverpool) will get it back on track.
But aye.... Berbatov is such a smooth player dread...lawd!!! best first touch in the EPL.
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....Yeah Liverpool didn't have their best showing and it seems like they not firing on all the cylinders that were churning at the beginning of the year- plus they were playing against a team that is basically fighting for their lives...every game is a playoff game for Spurs...they (Liverpool) will get it back on track.
But aye.... Berbatov is such a smooth player dread...lawd!!! best first touch in the EPL.
English fans finally getting a chance to see what Leverkusen fans been enjoying for years...I'm a little surprised that he hasn't kept pace with his early start to the season...but considering Spurs struggles (albeit most have been defensively), not that surprising I guess.
Liverpool just suffering from a lapse in focus right now...Gerrard still isn't 100% and Torres still getting his EPL legs under him...when those two start linking up (as they already have)...throw in some Babel and some Kuyt then you'll see that big red machine.
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Kenwyne did his thing I will never be vex with that. You say I ruff him up...I disagree. Even with today's game I will still contend that neither Kenwyne nor Sunderland has yet earned the right to be comparing themselves to an Arsenal, ManU. or Liverpool. On any given day anything can happen...this we all know. Considering how poor Sunderland has played all season his comments stood out even further in contrast. There's something to be said about confidence and what not, but there's a limit...this is a team 5 off the bottom, who lost 0-3 to both Wigan and frigging Luton for crying out loud. You can't beat Luton you can't beat Wigan but you think you can beat Arsenal?? That was my point...irrespective of their final showing.
There's been enough talk coming out of Sunderland to fill an entire season as is...everybody need to shut up and win already.
nowhere de man ever compare himself to Arsenal, Man Utd or Liverpool, but if that is what you see when you read the interview well power to you yes...
well maybe for the next game against a big team, he will refuse interviews and humble himself, since thats totally uncalled for as an inferior, johnny-come-lately sunderland striker... and while he at it, he should also cut out that flipping thing since its going way overboard as a celebration for scoring in the epl...
ay.. by and aside from all that, just wondering...
you does sweat any kinda football anywhere?
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But aye.... Berbatov is such a smooth player dread...lawd!!! best first touch in the EPL.
kicker i wanted to remark on that eh, but i eh see no liverpool v spurs thread...
but who else see that trap from a 50 yard voom kick pass late in the second half??
laaaaaaaawd fadda...
i trying to decide which first touch was better between that one and the one between wes brown and ferdinand in the man utd game..
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http://www.safc.com/team/?page_id=2612
Hearing on the SMB board that Carlos has had yet another setback. ( Reported by the Sun.)
From The Physio
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We have a direct line to the physio's room at the Academy of Light so you can get regular updates on Sunderland's injured players.
Stay here for all the injury news on Sunderland's squad ... from the first team to the youth team.
Treatment table / suspensions
PLAYER INJURY PHYSIO'S NOTES
Carlos Edwards Hamstring 3 weeks :(
Dean Whitehead Knee 6 weeks
Stan Varga Knee 6 weeks
Kieran Richardson Back 2-3 months
Andrew Cole Calf 1 weeks
Russell Anderson Ankle 10 weeks
Last updated: 03/10/07
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allyuh seriously backing that shyt side??? now i want all the best for the trini's playing with them but that side iz shyt. come on who seriously taught they could beat the gunners at the emirates???
wake up and smell the cool aid fellers.
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....Yeah Liverpool didn't have their best showing and it seems like they not firing on all the cylinders that were churning at the beginning of the year- plus they were playing against a team that is basically fighting for their lives...every game is a playoff game for Spurs...they (Liverpool) will get it back on track.
But aye.... Berbatov is such a smooth player dread...lawd!!! best first touch in the EPL.
English fans finally getting a chance to see what Leverkusen fans been enjoying for years...I'm a little surprised that he hasn't kept pace with his early start to the season...but considering Spurs struggles (albeit most have been defensively), not that surprising I guess.
Liverpool just suffering from a lapse in focus right now...Gerrard still isn't 100% and Torres still getting his EPL legs under him...when those two start linking up (as they already have)...throw in some Babel and some Kuyt then you'll see that big red machine.
Well they enjoyed it (Berbatov) last season too...probably even more- I don't know if he can repeat his prolific scoring of last season unless Spurs starts to play complete football....but even without him hitting the net at a rate, he is still a joy to watch....some unbelievable technique.
Torres for all the excitement he brings to the game is not really an ice cold finisher in my opinion- he typically needs alotta chances to score- unlike strikers like V.Nistelrooy & Drogba for eg.. To me his gift was his pace and work rate...but he seems to be leading the charge up front for LPool in the scoring dept. Would like to see Benayoun feature more consistently....very underrated player in my book....
For the time being Arsenal is the team to beat....yet to play against the big 4 though..that'll be the real test.
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ok...next game the League should just tell Sunderland doh bother to go ::)
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http://www.safc.com/team/?page_id=2612
Hearing on the SMB board that Carlos has had yet another setback. ( Reported by the Sun.)
From The Physio
/ Team / From The Physio
We have a direct line to the physio's room at the Academy of Light so you can get regular updates on Sunderland's injured players.
Stay here for all the injury news on Sunderland's squad ... from the first team to the youth team.
Treatment table / suspensions
PLAYER INJURY PHYSIO'S NOTES
Carlos Edwards Hamstring 3 weeks :(
Dean Whitehead Knee 6 weeks
Stan Varga Knee 6 weeks
Kieran Richardson Back 2-3 months
Andrew Cole Calf 1 weeks
Russell Anderson Ankle 10 weeks
Last updated: 03/10/07
Somebody on there say they talk to him today. He say he go be out for another 4-5 weeks.
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I think Sunderland surprised everyone by keeping the game as close as they did. Even the ones who would have liked to see an upset....
Sunderland is a table propper....ain't no mystery to that- if they survive relegation, they could consider their season a success.....Think peeps just happy to see some Trinis in the EPL....doh hate nuh.. ;D
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Kenwyne did his thing I will never be vex with that. You say I ruff him up...I disagree. Even with today's game I will still contend that neither Kenwyne nor Sunderland has yet earned the right to be comparing themselves to an Arsenal, ManU. or Liverpool. On any given day anything can happen...this we all know. Considering how poor Sunderland has played all season his comments stood out even further in contrast. There's something to be said about confidence and what not, but there's a limit...this is a team 5 off the bottom, who lost 0-3 to both Wigan and frigging Luton for crying out loud. You can't beat Luton you can't beat Wigan but you think you can beat Arsenal?? That was my point...irrespective of their final showing.
There's been enough talk coming out of Sunderland to fill an entire season as is...everybody need to shut up and win already.
nowhere de man ever compare himself to Arsenal, Man Utd or Liverpool, but if that is what you see when you read the interview well power to you yes...
well maybe for the next game against a big team, he will refuse interviews and humble himself, since thats totally uncalled for as an inferior, johnny-come-lately sunderland striker... and while he at it, he should also cut out that flipping thing since its going way overboard as a celebration for scoring in the epl...
ay.. by and aside from all that, just wondering...
you does sweat any kinda football anywhere?
Ah duz run real ball up inside yuh mudda c**t...go ask she what de sweat like.
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:whistling: lawd father
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Well they enjoyed it (Berbatov) last season too...probably even more- I don't know if he can repeat his prolific scoring of last season unless Spurs starts to play complete football....but even without him hitting the net at a rate, he is still a joy to watch....some unbelievable technique.
Torres for all the excitement he brings to the game is not really an ice cold finisher in my opinion- he typically needs alotta chances to score- unlike strikers like V.Nistelrooy & Drogba for eg.. To me his gift was his pace and work rate...but he seems to be leading the charge up front for LPool in the scoring dept. Would like to see Benayoun feature more consistently....very underrated player in my book....
For the time being Arsenal is the team to beat....yet to play against the big 4 though..that'll be the real test.
I still think Berbatov flying beneath most people's radars though...yuh doh really hear his name mentioned when you talking forwards in the EPL, and that's probably just as well, it's only been just over a season there for him, but with the type of talent on Spurs there's no mystery why Jol has come in for such criticism. I still think he's the best man for the job right now though, but of whom much is given...much is expected.
As for Liverpool I think the same applies...and even more so. Never really been huge on Benayoun, but this current malaise need to be corrected. It's all fine and good to say that you're undefeated...but at the same time teams like Arsenal and ManU. making hay while Liverpool only threading water. Now is the time to strike because fatigue and injuries can set in as the season goes on.
I ent ready tuh put Torres in Stern class yet, lol...but nah, he ent clinical yet. If we could get half the production he had with Atletico though, I think anybody will take that.
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Morvant.......not even a slight bligh for de team man ;D
I think Sunderland surprised everyone by keeping the game as close as they did. Even the ones who would have liked to see an upset....
Sunderland is a table propper....ain't no mystery to that- if they survive relegation, they could consider their season a success.....Think peeps just happy to see some Trinis in the EPL....doh hate nuh.. ;D
I would like to see ALL their injuries come back sooner rather than later and then we will see what type of game Sunderland will be able to play.
I am looking forward to that day.
but in the meantime I was VERY surprised with the game today, granted BOTH teams had some opportunites that were squanderd,..... the score could have been different.
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If it was up to you, TT wouldn'ta have no fans in the World Cup.
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3-2 RVP ;D ;D
http://sharebee.com/ce3df0be
Pleased of course my Beloved Arsenal came though today, like I thought they would even when Sunderland equalized
Big up to Sunderland for the challenge today.
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If it was up to you, TT wouldn'ta have no fans in the World Cup.
blahhh blahhh blahhh
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Dwight was pure class today. He is growing weekly playing in front of the back four and his composure on the ball seems to be rubbing off on them. With the exception for the Mc Shane tackle they seemed to be getting away from the aimless boom kick employed earlier in the season. Dwight lets his brain do the talking even though he has lost a step he was the best midfielder on the field today.
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Arsenal website match report
By Richard Clarke
Arsenal stormed back to the top of the Premier League table with a 3-2 win over Sunderland at Emirates Stadium on Sunday — but they were made to work so hard to do it.
Arsène Wenger’s side seemed set to stroll towards their 10th straight win when Robin van Persie and Philippe Senderos put them 2-0 ahead after only 14 minutes. However Ross Wallace reduced the arrears 10 minutes later and the excellent Kenwyn Jones levelled the game with a storming header just after the restart.
Emirates Stadium was beset by anxiety for most of the second half before substitute Theo Walcott set up Van Persie for the winner 10 minutes from time. In the closing seconds, Paul McShane received a straight red card for a clumsy challenge on Alex Hleb.
It was hardly the finale the game deserved. This had been another cracking encounter. Arsenal had shown their trademark flair, some fragility and then, just perhaps, a little title-winning resilience. Sunderland had suggested they were rightful relegation candidates at the start but belied their position during the middle portion of the game.
Arsenal had perhaps ‘won ugly’ at West Ham and Steaua, this was quite the opposite.
It takes all sorts to win a title.
There was only one change from the side that had won so efficiently in Romania on Tuesday. Abou Daiby came back on the left, Alex Hleb switched to the right and Emmanuel Eboue returned to the bench.
Arsenal’s last two games had been fraught 1-0s in which the defences held sway. Right from the first whistle, this game was never going to be like that.
Exactly 23 seconds had elapsed before Arsenal had their first sight of goal. Van Persie sent Adebayor clear in the right-hand channel but the Togolese striker blazed his shot over the bar.
Although Arsenal continued to pressure, Jones pushed Gael Clichy into an error in the opening minutes but the burly striker fouled Manuel Almunia as the Spanish keeper attempted to clear and was booked.
To be honest it was an isolated foray into the Arsenal penalty area. The home looked like scoring every time they went forward and the first goal would not be long in coming.
The move started with Hleb and Adebayor playing keep-ball in the Sunderland area. The ball was moved wide and then back on to the right. The Togo striker cut it back and Grant Leadbitter nudged over Cesc Fabregas on the edge of the area.
Referee Rob Styles blew for the free-kick. However Arsenal played on and Diaby planted a stunning drive into the top left-hand corner of the net and beyond the despairing dive of Craig Gordon. Of course it did not count, however, seconds later, the resulting free-kick was whipped in viciously by Van Persie. It flew into the same corner of net off the underside of the bar.
It was the Dutchman’s sixth of the season and his third in consecutive games.
Adebayor then sent in a powerful header as Arsenal looked to extend their lead. They would do that seconds later. But if their first had been a thing of beauty this one was a scrappy affair.
Fabregas’ left-wing corner should have been cleared by Jones but the striker screwed the ball back toward his own keeper. It was eventually scuffed wide to Adebayor who, once again, cut the ball back into the area. Diaby missed his backheel but the ball fell to Senderos, whose off-balance, bobbling shot beat Gordon and limped over the line. It was his third goal in his 92nd game for the club.
In the 19th minute Arsenal thought they had a third when Hleb’s cross was missed by Fabregas but rammed home by Diaby at the far post. However the assistant referee ruled that the initial ball from the Belarus midfielder had seen his Spanish colleague offside. It was a marginal decision.
Arsenal were strolling. They were attacking at will and Sunderland seemingly could do little about it.
So the fatalists among you will not be surprised to read that it was at this point that the visitors scored.
Dwight Yorke pumped a long ball forward, Jones controlled it expertly on the corner of the area, held off Clichy and Almunia had to rush out to block. The ball bounced out to Wallace on just inside the area and, with the keeper still out of position, he had the relatively simple job of slotting the ball home.
Liam Miller had a couple of half-chances to put Sunderland in the unlikely position of level terms.
However just past the half-hour, Gordon tipped over from a rocket-shot but Van Persie from 30 yards. When the resulting corner was ng over to the far post, Senderos has escaped his marker but, inexplicably, he nodded the ball wide
Arsenal maintained control as half-time approached but the goal had rocked them. Wenger’s team had played so well this season and this game had seemed so straightforward in the first 20 minutes. But it had turned into a tough test.
It got a lot tougher four minutes after the break when Sunderland worked a good position on the left, Miller curled in a cross and the Jones sent a towering header past Almunia. The keeper got a hand on it but only succeeded in pushing the ball in off the post.
Van Persie’s shot deflected off Danny Collins and Sunderland breathed a sigh of relief as the ball trickled wide then just before the hour, Kolo Toure hammered in an effort from 30 yards. It beat the diving Gordon, smacked off the inside of the post and away to safety.
Wenger replaced his right side — Eboue and Theo Walcott came on, Diaby and Bacary Sagna went off, Hleb switched flanks.
Arsenal’s game was now imperative and attacking. However there were plenty of gaps for Sunderland to exploit as well.
The final 20 minutes had all the hall-marks of the final throws of a FA Cup Third Round tie — sinews were being stretched, nerves were being frayed and formations were being flexed to breaking point.
In their desperation, Arsenal began to dominated once more. They were, at least, creating again but the old habit of spurning chances then had come back with avengence.
Fabregas passed when he should have shot, Van Persie blazed wide and then in the 77th minute Hleb drove into the area superbly before setting up Walcott at the far post.
The unmarked winger miscued his effort with the goal at his mercy.
Walcott redeemed himself by setting up the winner. Ten minutes from time he collected a pass from Eboue, skipped past his marker and squared for Van Persie thump home from close range.
Sunderland were not spent however. Almunia had to tip over from a dipping volley by substitute Anthony Stokes. Then Miller scooped the ball over Toure a combination of the defender and the keeper snaffled ball away.
Fabregas blazed wide and Adebayor steered wide in injury time as Arsenal looked to finally restored their two-goal cushion. Then, after McShane saw red, Walcott even slid a shot against the post
However that would have been harsh on the visitors. Arsenal were worthy winners but Sunderland can draw their own comfort from this wonderful, wonderful game.
http://www.arsenal.com/matchreport.asp?thisNav=fixtures&fxid=323038
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man that was brilliant scoring
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yeh no matta no matta
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well i not gon puch the man,not eaven fisting him up...but he has to remember somting real somthing that can..and wa ah call it pan
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for really..doh take it personal kenwyn is playin good we all know it cheerz :beermug:
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If it was up to you, TT wouldn'ta have no fans in the World Cup.
blahhh blahhh blahhh
Thoughtful.
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If it was up to you, TT wouldn'ta have no fans in the World Cup.
blahhh blahhh blahhh
Morvant dread...
Didn't realize was that time of the month...
And here I was thinking that you woulda be a man wanted to see all trinis do well.
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man utd forevvverrrr :devil:
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Yeah man ah backing them ,favorite team ever ;D score some winners Kenwyne
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Me eh go lie, I only follow Sunderland becuz ah de Trinis on de team ,odda wise I cuddnt give ah f@ck bout dem.De TnT players is de ony link I have to Sunderland so me eh pretending to like dem I wud just like to see our players do good.
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Me eh go lie, I only follow Sunderland becuz ah de Trinis on de team ,odda wise I cuddnt give ah f@ck bout dem.De TnT players is de ony link I have to Sunderland so me eh pretending to like dem I wud just like to see our players do good.
Ditto here.
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If it was up to you, TT wouldn'ta have no fans in the World Cup.
blahhh blahhh blahhh
Morvant dread...
Didn't realize was that time of the month...
And here I was thinking that you woulda be a man wanted to see all trinis do well.
Midnight listen dread i doh want to bring no pollution to the site and i repeat again dread my name eh no missa cajole.
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If it was up to you, TT wouldn'ta have no fans in the World Cup.
blahhh blahhh blahhh
Morvant dread...
Didn't realize was that time of the month...
And here I was thinking that you woulda be a man wanted to see all trinis do well.
Midnight listen dread i doh want to bring no pollution to the site and i repeat again dread my name eh no missa cajole.
Yah iz ah kinda idiot oh what ,u wanta get ban chill yah c**t nah ,let people like you .
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and ah suppose all ah alyuh know that it not very probable that the TNT players do well if the rest of the team don't function right?
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Yeah man ah backing them ,favorite team ever ;D score some winners Kenwyne
To add , One hand doh clap
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If it was up to you, TT wouldn'ta have no fans in the World Cup.
blahhh blahhh blahhh
Thoughtful.
ok if you want to rumble
a COUNTRY is a place where people are born and support till they die.
a CLUB is a team that people does support until henry leave, or the coach leave or if they brother start playing for another team then they support does change.
do some research and tell me how much sunderland threads this board had prior to yorke.
i woulda never get vex but ah man say SUNDERLAND WAS UNLUCKY WITH THE RESULT. >:(
and doh get tie-up today was a perfect example of a team not doin good but the trini's did well so
doh feel i not goin on meh hi-5 and congratulate KJ.
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If it was up to you, TT wouldn'ta have no fans in the World Cup.
blahhh blahhh blahhh
Thoughtful.
ok if you want to rumble
a COUNTRY is a place where people are born and support till they die.
a CLUB is a team that people does support until henry leave, or the coach leave or if they brother start playing for another team then they support does change.
do some research and tell me how much sunderland threads this board had prior to yorke.
i woulda never get vex but ah man say SUNDERLAND WAS UNLUCKY WITH THE RESULT. >:(
and doh get tie-up today was a perfect example of a team not doin good but the trini's did well so
doh feel i not goin on meh hi-5 and congratulate KJ.
I was talking about the tens of thousands of non-Trinidadians that had our back. Left up to you, they wouldn't waste time with dis shyt side dat could never beat England or whoever. Left up to you, nobody would support underdogs.
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Supporters of Fairfik or Latas. What u tink?
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If it was up to you, TT wouldn'ta have no fans in the World Cup.
blahhh blahhh blahhh
Thoughtful.
ok if you want to rumble
a COUNTRY is a place where people are born and support till they die.
a CLUB is a team that people does support until henry leave, or the coach leave or if they brother start playing for another team then they support does change.
do some research and tell me how much sunderland threads this board had prior to yorke.
i woulda never get vex but ah man say SUNDERLAND WAS UNLUCKY WITH THE RESULT. >:(
and doh get tie-up today was a perfect example of a team not doin good but the trini's did well so
doh feel i not goin on meh hi-5 and congratulate KJ.
I was talking about the tens of thousands of non-Trinidadians that had our back. Left up to you, they wouldn't waste time with dis shyt side dat could never beat England or whoever. Left up to you, nobody would support underdogs.
what crap yuh talkin. KJ, latas, yorke, stern, glen all ah dem could score against england. FACT
shaka, tallest, sancho, avery, all ah dem could shut-out england FACT
backing trini was not just a underdog thing it was common sense.
backing ah side who aint win since christmas against gunners at home is just stupid
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this is the last time i will produce highlights.... this is about the 5th time i have done this involving trini(s) and i have received no credit or thanks..
I will just enjoy them myself from now
nb..highlights deleted
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;D I was going and thz u eh ,but I dl limewire ,and every time I try to dl ,limewire wire is take over from azureus,steupppssss . Then limewire say it looking for sources steupssssss so I cant dl ,and if I delete limewire it go screw up my songlist steuppssss . If I could just deactivate it from downloading duties.
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Morvant dread...
Didn't realize was that time of the month...
And here I was thinking that you woulda be a man wanted to see all trinis do well.
Midnight listen dread i doh want to bring no pollution to the site and i repeat again dread my name eh no missa cajole.
what am I missiong here Midknight :rotfl: :rotfl:
#1 Trinba you OK?
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this is the last time i will produce highlights.... this is about the 5th time i have done this involving trini(s) and i have received no credit or thanks..
I will just enjoy them myself from now
nb..highlights deleted
just pm them fuh me :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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lol i didnt mean to sound angry... i'm not... but this is rediculous now... i have to look for it online den present it and if any of yall are on other international forums like fbtz.com you should know credit and a thank you is what you should do...
from now... whenever highlights or a full match torrent is available with trini(s) involved i will invite PM requests only
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Nah peeps once they use it suppose to give u ah little bligh seft .Pll getting f**king to lazy to post oui .
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If it was up to you, TT wouldn'ta have no fans in the World Cup.
blahhh blahhh blahhh
Thoughtful.
ok if you want to rumble
a COUNTRY is a place where people are born and support till they die.
a CLUB is a team that people does support until henry leave, or the coach leave or if they brother start playing for another team then they support does change.
do some research and tell me how much sunderland threads this board had prior to yorke.
i woulda never get vex but ah man say SUNDERLAND WAS UNLUCKY WITH THE RESULT. >:(
and doh get tie-up today was a perfect example of a team not doin good but the trini's did well so
doh feel i not goin on meh hi-5 and congratulate KJ.
I was talking about the tens of thousands of non-Trinidadians that had our back. Left up to you, they wouldn't waste time with dis shyt side dat could never beat England or whoever. Left up to you, nobody would support underdogs.
what crap yuh talkin. KJ, latas, yorke, stern, glen all ah dem could score against england. FACT
shaka, tallest, sancho, avery, all ah dem could shut-out england FACT
backing trini was not just a underdog thing it was common sense.
backing ah side who aint win since christmas against gunners at home is just stupid
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LOL.
what crap yuh talkin. KJ, latas, yorke, stern, glen all ah dem could score against england. FACT
So wha happen in Germany? Dey didn't feel like it? Meanwhile Sunderland score against Arsenal twice.
shaka, tallest, sancho, avery, all ah dem could shut-out england FACT
So wha happen in Germany? Dey feel sorry for dem?
backing trini was not just a underdog thing it was common sense.
backing ah side who aint win since christmas against gunners at home is just stupid
Backing a Trini side that couldn't even beat shit Wales is common sense? Backing dem against England and Sweden on European soil is common sense? Dey wasn't underdogs? People wasn't saying dey unlucky to lose to England? These were de best arguments you had in yuh schoolbag?
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Teams are made up of players.... whether it be international or the club level
Supporting our national team is a no brainer,
Supporting another national team or a club team is based on
1. your appreciation of either the brand of play or overall philosophy of the administration
2. the favorite player(s) that put on that team uniform whether national or international
3. the underdog factor in some cases
but point number 2 will allow for interests to fluctuate over time based on the composition of certain squads and i get morvant point cause in all honesty we wouldnt care much about Sunderland if our players weren't playing there which i think is a fair position. Just as if Stern went to a Derby County then all of a sudden we would want the club to do well because one of our players were contributing to the clubs' position.
i mention point 3 which in itself is not in isolation, in another post someone mentioned how trinidad was backed by many different countries not participating, especially in Scotland which really is based on both points 2 and 3, we had a lot of players based in scotland as well as we were the underdog vs their arch rivals england.
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Teams are made up of players.... whether it be international or the club level
Supporting our national team is a no brainer,
Supporting another national team or a club team is based on
1. your appreciation of either the brand of play or overall philosophy of the administration
2. the favorite player(s) that put on that team uniform whether national or international
3. the underdog factor in some cases
but point number 2 will allow for interests to fluctuate over time based on the composition of certain squads and i get morvant point cause in all honesty we wouldnt care much about Sunderland if our players weren't playing there which i think is a fair position. Just as if Stern went to a Derby County then all of a sudden we would want the club to do well because one of our players were contributing to the clubs' position.
i mention point 3 which in itself is not in isolation, in another post someone mentioned how trinidad was backed by many different countries not participating, especially in Scotland which really is based on both points 2 and 3, we had a lot of players based in scotland as well as we were the underdog vs their arch rivals england.
The underdog talk is nonsense...Sunderland was underdog way before the Trini invasion yet nobody was interested in them. I also doh see nobody supporting Birmingham neither. People could support who ever they want and for whatever reason/s...but let's not kid ourselves...today/tomorrow Yorke/Edwards/Jones transfer out very few on here would continue to give two hoots about the Mackems.
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Duh talk about stating the obvious . I like this team more than Aston Villa when yorke was there ::)
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People could support who ever they want and for whatever reason/s...but let's not kid ourselves...today/tomorrow Yorke/Edwards/Jones transfer out very few on here would continue to give two hoots about the Mackems.
if that is what makes people happy, nothing wrong with that at all ;)
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That was a very entertaining game today. I wanted Sunderland to do well, a draw maybe even a win, although I am normally an Arsenal supporter. A lot of people have been captivated by Arsenal’s sensational form, and a real mauling (5-0,6-0, …) was not out of the question. All the pundits and commentators were talking about goal-rush, flood gates opening, etc but I supporting the 2 trinis on the field.
Jones played well. His header again showed that Sunderland has a striker with some height advantage. I was especially happy that he scored given the earlier mistake on the clearance. On the first goal by Wallace, Jones’s skill was again evident. Jones has really improved since the World C qualifiers, and previous gold cup etc.
Yorke was simply sensational today. I usually don’t check the Sunderland Message Board, because so often it is a waste of time. In any case I noticed that quite a few folks there were praising Yorkie’s performance.
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=277093
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true thing small mag ah apologise 4 mi bad manners
didnt know fbtz was still up and running though......i know they had taken down all compilations and highlights and matches at one time guess someone was threaten them with legal action.
back in them times ah hour after ah game u coulda download highlights or d game oui them men was quick on that forum dread
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I was talking about the tens of thousands of non-Trinidadians that had our back. Left up to you, they wouldn't waste time with dis shyt side dat could never beat England or whoever. Left up to you, nobody would support underdogs.
what crap yuh talkin. KJ, latas, yorke, stern, glen all ah dem could score against england. FACT
shaka, tallest, sancho, avery, all ah dem could shut-out england FACT
backing trini was not just a underdog thing it was common sense.
backing ah side who aint win since christmas against gunners at home is just stupid
You talking out of bias. TnT beating England in the WC would have been a less likely result and a bigger upset than Sunderland beating Arsenal. Sunderland beating Arsenal is not impossible, in fact Arsenal will lose quite a few games to bad teams this tear. That is just football.
But you are right to say that most fans are not backing Sunderland, but just the players and by the standards of Arsenal and Manchester United Sundeland is a "shyt" side. That don't make backing them (as long as the Trinis there) any less gratifying though.
Yuh sounding like a man who could only back a winnig side.
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true thing small mag ah apologise 4 mi bad manners
didnt know fbtz was still up and running though......i know they had taken down all compilations and highlights and matches at one time guess someone was threaten them with legal action.
back in them times ah hour after ah game u coulda download highlights or d game oui them men was quick on that forum dread
it still like dat... sumtimes highlights get produced while d game going on... and dey have full match torrents after d games.. and classic matches(eg utd v b munich 99') and shows and programs(eg bbc's match of the day)
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lol i didnt mean to sound angry... i'm not... but this is rediculous now... i have to look for it online den present it and if any of yall are on other international forums like fbtz.com you should know credit and a thank you is what you should do...
from now... whenever highlights or a full match torrent is available with trini(s) involved i will invite PM requests only
Small mag look at that....yuh had time to post the highlights, get vex, delete them and rant and i didn't even have time to see any of that. But yuh know how we trinis stop - bad manners and all. Doh take it on ;D
anyway takenoprisoners,nice find (though i have to admit when i hear the commentary change from the english accent to the spanish?chinese? I say "whaz da one ;D)
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yuh tink any englishman was backing LA Galaxy before this year?
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where allyuh see that as an assist
allyuh really is computer footballers
I will not contradict premierleague.com. In any case even the commenators on the link that takenoprisoners post say that the goal came down to the control and the shot Jones had put in just before...
That said ah suppose he should also get ah assist on Arsenal second goal :rotfl:
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Yuh sounding like a man who could only back a winnig side.
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yuh tink any englishman was backing LA Galaxy before this year?
what make yuh think any of them backing them now ? :rotfl:
Morvant, I ent too sure what yuh point is. If yuh trying to say that we are all Sunderland waggonists, then like yuh just dry clean yuh captain obvious costume and proud to be showing it off to everybody...
The overall quality ofthe team is not to be disputed. The fact remains that any team that promoted from the Championship is by definition a "shit side", because of the way the EPL financial structure is set up.
If yuh vex against men who was hoping they beat Arsenal then you should remember that not all men on here is assnall fan's to begin with, some of them woulda just be glad to see arsenal lose for spite. To be quite honest enough though, people on here are basically neutral EPL fans, there might be one or two teams we root against for whatever reason (hate Russian mafia money, hate French bias, hate Ferguson red face after he throw Dwight under the bus), but almost everybody here who say they support a EPL team is a wagggonist of some sort.
Now when Yorke was with Aston Villa, I didnt even know who was he striking partner. If yuh vex with people because they could actually name 5 "shitty" Sunderland players, then you just bad mind. The fact of the matter is that up unto this point. no EPL team (no championship team either) ever see it fit to give 3 TNT players (of 3 different 'generations' I should add) a chance. If the only response to that you could find is "They is a shit side", well then i am very well sorry for you.
When the 3 trinis gone, chances are i and the others will stop following them, despite whatever affinity we might have for Keane (as a temperamental player and a young manager with a certain charisma), for Nosworthy (as another Caribbean player), for the Irish football team, (half of Sunderland), for the underdog 'Warrior' mentality, or as sympathisants for all the Man U throwaways.
That don't make our current support any less rational. The Stadum of Light is the 4th biggest stadium in all of England. Turns out one of their all time favourite players (who won them their only important title btw) was coach of our national team on one of its best runs in qualifying. And they giving a chance to one young trini gun, a late bloomer that we are all convinced is world class and a last hurrah to an extraordinary player that like it or not, is our only recognised player on the world stage.
If they stay up I don't see any bad coming out of it for TNT, and if supporting them could help them stay up in some kind of weird cosmic karma, i am going to do it.
All the haters could haul they arse n hole as far as i concerned.
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13321
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane has welcomed Nyron Nosworthy's Jamaica call-up.
The Sunderland defender was named in the Jamaica squad for the first time this week and Keane said: "We're delighted that he has been recognised, Nyron has done extremely well since I came to the club.
"I'm sure he is delighted with it, it's a good reflection on him and hopefully it is the first of a few caps."
Nosworthy is in the squad for games against Ghana in London on October 14 and Honduras in Kingston three days later.
The Honduras friendly in the Caribbean takes place just four days before Sunderland's trip to West Ham.
"We'll have to have a look at the one in Jamaica," said Keane.
"We've done the same with Dickson [Etuhu, a Nigeria international]. Any friendly that is on the other side of the planet, we have to consider it."
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lol i didnt mean to sound angry... i'm not... but this is rediculous now... i have to look for it online den present it and if any of yall are on other international forums like fbtz.com you should know credit and a thank you is what you should do...
from now... whenever highlights or a full match torrent is available with trini(s) involved i will invite PM requests only
Small mag look at that....yuh had time to post the highlights, get vex, delete them and rant and i didn't even have time to see any of that. But yuh know how we trinis stop - bad manners and all. Doh take it on ;D
anyway takenoprisoners,nice find (though i have to admit when i hear the commentary change from the english accent to the spanish?chinese? I say "whaz da one ;D)
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Dat ketch me too.
:rotfl:
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Arsenal 3-2 Sunderland
By Phil McNulty
Arsenal survived a scare before returning to the Premiership summit with a narrow win against Sunderland.
Robin van Persie's stunning free-kick and Philippe Senderos's finish put Arsenal two up inside 14 minutes.
But Ross Wallace pulled one back for Sunderland before half-time and Kenwyne Jones headed an equaliser three minutes after the interval to stun Arsenal.
Van Persie slid home an 80th-minute winner, while Sunderland's Paul McShane saw red for fouling Alexander Hleb
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7019622.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13329
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's defeat at the Emirates Stadium:
"When you get off to a start like that you're thinking it could be five, six, seven or eight.
"But we stayed in the game and managed to get a decent first goal and when we got level I thought we were in with a chance.
"But there was still plenty of time for Arsenal to create chances and they did. They might have looked at it and thought they were unlucky to be level.
"I have to look at the positives. I keep talking about the character and the attitude but on top of that there was some very good play.
"I thought Liam Miller and Grant [Leadbitter] were outstanding - the lads gave it their all. When you come to play Arsenal you need a lot of luck to get a positive result. We had a little bit of luck, but not just enough.
"When you go to any ground, you say to your team let's be solid for the first 10 of 15 minutes. They obviously didn't listen! I should have just said let's concede a couple and let Arsenal enjoy it.
"They [Arsenal] have great pace and movement and Van Persie's finishing is top, we've seen him do it before.
"If you're not at the races in the Premier League, you will get beaten - it's simple.
"I enjoyed the game but not the result. There were plenty of chances, shots, the keepers made good saves, the five goals, it had a lot.
"I've said all along that we're not a bad team but we need to start turning decent performances into results. It was a decent performance but we're leaving London with zero points.
"On chances created they deserved to win the game but when you come to these grounds, you are going to be under pressure."
[on McShane's sending off]
"I'd love to say that I didn't have a clear view but I was about five yards away - I think the referee was quick to get out the red card. If we feel Paul has been out of order, we'll discipline him. We'll judge it when we see it on video again.
"The biggest punishment for Paul is that he will be missing for three games and we're certainly not in a position to be without players like that."
KJ
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13331
We gave a good showing - Jones
Kenwyne Jones thinks Sunderland put up a brave fight against Arsenal but gave themselves a mountain to climb at the Emirates on Sunday.
"I think we did well." said the striker. "I don't think anyone gave us a chance and basically we shot ourselves in the foot by letting in two early goals. It was hard to come back from that but we did - but we just gave it away in the end."
"We went there with the idea that we were going to put our best foot forward and try and get something out of the game. Even when they were 2-0 up we still had the belief, played as a team and worked our way back into it."
Two goals down after 15 minutes could have seen Keane's side crumble, but Ross Wallace gave them a glimmer of hope with his 25th minute goal. Jones then sent the travelling Sunderland fans into raptures with his equaliser and now customary somersault celebration just after the half-time break.
Jones said: "After being 2-0 down it was nice to get the goal to come back in to it and then getting the goal to equalise. At that point we were thinking that we were going to go on and win the game but unfortunately that didn't happen, so we just have to pick ourselves up for the next game."
Jones had another good chance towards the end of the game but in the end Robin van Persie's 80th minute strike clinched all three points for the Gunners.
"I wanted to do everything quickly and at least try and force something out of it, but that didn't happen, so I'm a bit disappointed, but at the end of the day I think we gave a good showing of ourselves."
"These kind of performances show us where we are, where we need to be and the mistakes that we're still making. We are definitely going to be looking back at this and taking positives from the game and trying to improve on it."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=31341.0)
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13332
Cats lose McShane for three games
Roy Keane will be without influential defender Paul McShane for three games following his sending off at the Emirates Stadium on Sunday.
McShane was given his marching orders in the 90th minute after a challenge on Arsenal's Alexander Hleb.
The Sunderland defender, who is currently on international duty with the Republic of Ireland, will be forced to sit out Sunderland's up-coming games against West Ham, Fulham and Man City after referee Rob Styles showed him a straight red card for what he judged to be a late challenge.
The decision will be a blow to Keane who is already without several key players due to long-term injuries.
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Teams are made up of players.... whether it be international or the club level
Supporting our national team is a no brainer,
Supporting another national team or a club team is based on
1. your appreciation of either the brand of play or overall philosophy of the administration
2. the favorite player(s) that put on that team uniform whether national or international
3. the underdog factor in some cases
but point number 2 will allow for interests to fluctuate over time based on the composition of certain squads and i get morvant point cause in all honesty we wouldnt care much about Sunderland if our players weren't playing there which i think is a fair position. Just as if Stern went to a Derby County then all of a sudden we would want the club to do well because one of our players was contributing to the clubs' position.
i mention point 3 which in itself is not in isolation, in another post someone mentioned how trinidad was backed by many different countries not participating, especially in Scotland which really is based on both points 2 and 3, we had a lot of players based in scotland as well as we were the underdog vs their arch rivals england.
The underdog talk is nonsense...Sunderland was underdog way before the Trini invasion yet nobody was interested in them. I also doh see nobody supporting Birmingham neither. People could support who ever they want and for whatever reason/s...but let's not kid ourselves...today/tomorrow Yorke/Edwards/Jones transfer out very few on here would continue to give two hoots about the Mackems.
I never mentioned that point 3 referred to Sunderland, check my post again.
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this is the last time i will produce highlights.... this is about the 5th time i have done this involving trini(s) and i have received no credit or thanks..
I will just enjoy them myself from now
lol i didnt mean to sound angry... i'm not... but this is rediculous now... i have to look for it online den present it and if any of yall are on other international forums like fbtz.com you should know credit and a thank you is what you should do...
1. Unless you upload it or rip it, you eh "produce" no flickin highlights.
2. Why you want credit for postin a link you find somewhere?
3. On fbtz ppl give credit to the rippers and uploaders, not leeches who use their work and want credit for it.
4. I never see you credit anybody when you post those highlights.
5. Your attitude in this thing only makes sense when I take into account that you are a Manlover United supporter.
Seriously, you eh do nutting.
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Nice pic with Yorke on Walcott
youth vs experience
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allyuh seriously backing that shyt side??? now i want all the best for the trini's playing with them but that side iz shyt. come on who seriously taught they could beat the gunners at the emirates???
wake up and smell the cool aid fellers.
If anything I think Sunderland is inconsistent and are suffering from injuries to key players. If they can hold Manu at old traff to just one goal and yesterday at Emirates to come back from 2 down to tie up until Arsenal scored the winner. C'mon man give them a break nah you want the m to just walk into the Prem and beat all the top dogs away from home, be realistic. I thought it was a good perfomrance overall and they could have won the game or at least hold Arsenal to a draw, but I am not writing them off at all!
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I never mentioned that point 3 referred to Sunderland, check my post again.
I was actually co-signing on your point...whether you actually said the 'underdog' thing applied to Sunderland or not...others offered it as a reason why Sunderland gets support. I'm disputing that as a legitimate reason (as opposed to the presence of the Trinis on the team) as to why that is.
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If Julius James sign for Sunderland tomorrow.... Morvant go buy a Sunderland jersey to jock in.... :devil: no lie...
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I never mentioned that point 3 referred to Sunderland, check my post again.
I was actually co-signing on your point...whether you actually said the 'underdog' thing applied to Sunderland or not...others offered it as a reason why Sunderland gets support. I'm disputing that as a legitimate reason (as opposed to the presence of the Trinis on the team) as to why that is.
I think the underdog factor could still be legit- esp from game to game where the whole concept of an "underdog" is most relevant. I would back Sunderland against Man U, or Chelsea regardless of a Trini presence. I know ppl who didn't like Man U even when Yorkie was there....but they backed Aston Villa b4 he left....and we know most ppl who hate, hate them just because they are a big side....Let's say there was a Trini on Sunderland & a Trini on Chelsea, chances are that some would back Sunderland in a head to head clash, just to see the giants get upset. Like G said, the underdog factor most likely won't stand in isolation, and we all know the Trini presence is the main (in most cases probably the only) driver behind attention paid to Sunderland in general on here, but in certain head to head clashes I think the underdog factor adds some fuel to the fire as well.....Agreed that without the Trinis most wouldn't care about Sunderland's success, but take the Trini presence as a given, the underdog factor is certainly relevant....I think all of us here would take more pleasure in seeing Sunderland topple Arsenal, or Chelsea than say Wigan.....same 3 points, same Trinis....
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I never mentioned that point 3 referred to Sunderland, check my post again.
I was actually co-signing on your point...whether you actually said the 'underdog' thing applied to Sunderland or not...others offered it as a reason why Sunderland gets support. I'm disputing that as a legitimate reason (as opposed to the presence of the Trinis on the team) as to why that is.
Nobody say the Trinis didn't generate interest in the club. Of course, that is what really brought them to most of our attentions. Almost every team you root for was brought to your attention by personnel you admired. Does that make your interest in those teams any less valid? People root for the team because of the Trinis AND because they're plucky underdogs. I don't see what so hard to grasp in dat unless you being wilfully ignorant. The underdog factor plays a part.
And yes, I still wish good things for Birmingham. I still feel sorry that Luton got demoted. And Port Vale. I have interest in any team that adopt our boys and treat them well. I don't just selfishly root for the Trinis and screw the rest of the team. That's just me, though.
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If Julius James sign for Sunderland tomorrow.... Morvant go buy a Sunderland jersey to jock in.... :devil: no lie...
well you hold a strong arguement there ;D
i would but i wouldnt have to buy the jersey :D
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Ujpest or Theobald?
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doh overdo it
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doh overdo it
;D
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this is the last time i will produce highlights.... this is about the 5th time i have done this involving trini(s) and i have received no credit or thanks..
I will just enjoy them myself from now
lol i didnt mean to sound angry... i'm not... but this is rediculous now... i have to look for it online den present it and if any of yall are on other international forums like fbtz.com you should know credit and a thank you is what you should do...
1. Unless you upload it or rip it, you eh "produce" no flickin highlights.
2. Why you want credit for postin a link you find somewhere?
3. On fbtz ppl give credit to the rippers and uploaders, not leeches who use their work and want credit for it.
4. I never see you credit anybody when you post those highlights.
5. Your attitude in this thing only makes sense when I take into account that you are a Manlover United supporter.
Seriously, you eh do nutting.
Well you find de fuking highlights from now... all i saying is i could least get a thank you for even considering putting the highlights on socawarriors.net
I never said i made the highlights... i simply produced them here as in look for them online and then present them here..so f**k off
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Well you find de f**king highlights from now... all i saying is i could least get a thank you for even considering putting the highlights on socawarriors.net
I never said i made the highlights... i simply produced them here as in look for them online and then present them here..so f**k off
"you really need to be careful how you talk to ppl on the forum, i dont appreciate it. tone down the disrespect, i dont know where you're from but where i am from, we dont tolerate that. dont even reply to this, just keep your mouth shut.
consider yourself warned.
and for your information, asshole, I have seen a lion. And not one of your crap ass queen of the jungle homoerotic pussy-cat lions. A real lion, with fangs and horns and wings and shit. Don't pull your f**king wierd ass Man united voodoo hypnosis crap on me when you don't even know wtf you're talking about."
/e-thug.txt
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lol i didnt mean to sound angry... i'm not... but this is rediculous now... i have to look for it online den present it and if any of yall are on other international forums like fbtz.com you should know credit and a thank you is what you should do...
I know you never said that you made the highlights.
What I am trying to point out to you is that by your own standards you are not doing what you should do.
Why you want ppl to give you credit when you not giving the authors their credit, especially when your contribution is so much less than theirs?
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Just tell the small man thanks nuh....He just lookin' for a lil acknowledgment, no scene there...
Small mag if yuh posting the highlights just for credit, then it makes sense tuh not post them again, but if yuh posting it out of your own generosity, then doh study nobody, just post the highlights and spread the good vibes...what goes around comes around.....so doh dig no horrors...
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ethug.txt ftw!
lol
That one will probably confuse more people than d_#1Trinba
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Well you find de f**king highlights from now... all i saying is i could least get a thank you for even considering putting the highlights on socawarriors.net
I never said i made the highlights... i simply produced them here as in look for them online and then present them here..so f**k off
"you really need to be careful how you talk to ppl on the forum, i dont appreciate it. tone down the disrespect, i dont know where you're from but where i am from, we dont tolerate that. dont even reply to this, just keep your mouth shut.
consider yourself warned.
and for your information, asshole, I have seen a lion. And not one of your crap ass queen of the jungle homoerotic pussy-cat lions. A real lion, with fangs and horns and wings and shit. Don't pull your f**king wierd ass Man united voodoo hypnosis crap on me when you don't even know wtf you're talking about."
/e-thug.txt
lol...
what zoo u see a lion with fangs and horns and wings?
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I wonder if TLC have a "Life Lesson" (http://shopping.discovery.com/category-1_SHOPBYSHOW/3_SHOW_SER_LIFELESSON-27993.html?topnav=sbs-lifelessons) for this very subject :devil:
yeah, they do, look it here (http://shopping.discovery.com/product-60394.html). Time to get a professional ;D
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ethug.txt ftw!
lol
That one will probably confuse more people than d_#1Trinba
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Nah hoss Trinba take the cake....that soldier is the ultimate in garbage....some html code gone bad eh have nuttin' on that cat...
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That one will probably confuse more people than d_#1Trinba
:rotfl: :rotfl:
we go have to get Midknight to find out his scene oui
and for your information, asshole, I have seen a lion. And not one of your crap ass queen of the jungle homoerotic pussy-cat lions. A real lion, with fangs and horns and wings and shit. Don't pull your f**king wierd ass Man united voodoo hypnosis crap on me when you don't even know wtf you're talking about."
/e-thug.txt
ah hav ah feelin dat FF got that quote here (http://www.ethuggery.com/top10.php) :devil:
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ethug.txt ftw!
lol
That one will probably confuse more people than d_#1Trinba
Bitter, man done confused lol ....
tone down the disrespect!
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Well you find de f**king highlights from now... all i saying is i could least get a thank you for even considering putting the highlights on socawarriors.net
I never said i made the highlights... i simply produced them here as in look for them online and then present them here..so f**k off
"you really need to be careful how you talk to ppl on the forum, i dont appreciate it. tone down the disrespect, i dont know where you're from but where i am from, we dont tolerate that. dont even reply to this, just keep your mouth shut.
consider yourself warned.
and for your information, asshole, I have seen a lion. And not one of your crap ass queen of the jungle homoerotic pussy-cat lions. A real lion, with fangs and horns and wings and shit. Don't pull your f**king wierd ass Man united voodoo hypnosis crap on me when you don't even know wtf you're talking about."
/e-thug.txt
aright you crazy f**k
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FF...FF......I say no more
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Well you find de f**king highlights from now... all i saying is i could least get a thank you for even considering putting the highlights on socawarriors.net
I never said i made the highlights... i simply produced them here as in look for them online and then present them here..so f**k off
You real acting yuh age here...and that's being generous. Nuff man does post links here and doh turn arung looking fuh thanks, they do it as a service. Yuh think Tallman or Flex looking fuh thanks when they post stuff on here? lol
Some ah allyuh is kicks yes.
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KJ makes ESPN Soccernet's team of the week....
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=470773&root=england&cc=5901&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1
GK: David James (Portsmouth)
CB: Zat Knight (Aston Villa)
CB: Rio Ferdinand (Man United)
CB: Hermann Hreidarsson (Portsmouth)
LM: Ashley Young (Aston Villa)
CM: Nicky Butt (Newcastle)
CM: Blumer Elano (Man City)
RM: Cristiano Ronaldo (Man United)
ST: Kenwyne Jones (Sunderland)
ST: Robbie Keane (Tottenham)
ST: Robin van Persie (Arsenal)
Manager: Martin Jol (Tottenham Hotspur)
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Nobody say the Trinis didn't generate interest in the club. Of course, that is what really brought them to most of our attentions. Almost every team you root for was brought to your attention by personnel you admired. Does that make your interest in those teams any less valid? People root for the team because of the Trinis AND because they're plucky underdogs. I don't see what so hard to grasp in dat unless you being wilfully ignorant. The underdog factor plays a part.
And yes, I still wish good things for Birmingham. I still feel sorry that Luton got demoted. And Port Vale. I have interest in any team that adopt our boys and treat them well. I don't just selfishly root for the Trinis and screw the rest of the team. That's just me, though.
It would take a special breed of idiot to just "root for the Trinis and screw the rest of the team" as you put it...so I doubt anyone is arguing that to be the case, certainly not I ... unless you being willfully ignorant in stating that claim.
[insert sarcasm]I'm sure people root for Sunderland because they're plucky underdogs[/sarcasm]...I'm sure if we search long enough we might also find 2 people who root for them because they like their uniforms. We all know the primary reason why Sunderland is supported on this board, so I really don't even know what the debate is.
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Nobody say the Trinis didn't generate interest in the club. Of course, that is what really brought them to most of our attentions. Almost every team you root for was brought to your attention by personnel you admired. Does that make your interest in those teams any less valid? People root for the team because of the Trinis AND because they're plucky underdogs. I don't see what so hard to grasp in dat unless you being wilfully ignorant. The underdog factor plays a part.
And yes, I still wish good things for Birmingham. I still feel sorry that Luton got demoted. And Port Vale. I have interest in any team that adopt our boys and treat them well. I don't just selfishly root for the Trinis and screw the rest of the team. That's just me, though.
It would take a special breed of idiot to just "root for the Trinis and screw the rest of the team" as you put it...so I doubt anyone is arguing that to be the case
First post: "allyuh seriously backing that shyt side??? now i want all the best for the trini's playing with them but that side iz shyt."
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First post: "allyuh seriously backing that shyt side??? now i want all the best for the trini's playing with them but that side iz shyt."
I didn't interpret that to mean "root for the Trinis and screw the rest of the team", seems more to say "I wish them luck, but I can't bring myself to root for that shit team"... but maybe that's just me.
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dissapointing post.
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I supporting trini's regardless, same could be said for our senoir team but I supporting anytime, win, loss, shyt side bess side who vex loss.....
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>:( >:( >:(
What a waste of talent, what relly going on with that injury ?!
He re-tear the ligament, lord!
I would be surprised if he even gets to play before christmas break
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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!?
awwwww FACK.
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source ?
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what crap you talkin?
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i refusing to believe this till it have a source...i done have a headache for de night..i eh need this kinda bad news!
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I take it back.
It was already posted
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=29670.msg360175#msg360175
only thing, this was a week ago so maybe he'll be back for the lasr match in october
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13336
Fans vote Miller top player
By Nick Alexander
Liam Miller was voted Sunderland's best player from their game at Arsenal on Sunday.
Miller came out on top in a fans' man of the match poll here on safc.com.
The midfielder got 31% of the votes, edging out Kenwyne Jones who got 30%. Dwight Yorke came in third place with 16%.
safc.com's top three players v Arsenal (as voted by the fans):
Liam Miller 31%
Kenwyne Jones 30%
Dwight Yorke 16%
The winner of each man of the match poll gets three points, the runner-up gets two and the third best player gets one.
Here is how the table stands after nine Premier League games:
Craig Gordon 9
Michael Chopra 9
Liam Miller 7
Grant Leadbitter 6
Paul McShane 6
Kenwyne Jones 5
Danny Higginbotham 4
Ross Wallace 2
Carlos Edwards 2
Nyron Nosworthy 1
Danny Collins 1
Dwight Yorke 1
At the end of the season the points are totted up to reveal our star performer.
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13336
Fans vote Miller top player
By Nick Alexander
Liam Miller was voted Sunderland's best player from their game at Arsenal on Sunday.
Miller came out on top in a fans' man of the match poll here on safc.com.
The midfielder got 31% of the votes, edging out Kenwyne Jones who got 30%. Dwight Yorke came in third place with 16%.
safc.com's top three players v Arsenal (as voted by the fans):
Liam Miller 31%
Kenwyne Jones 30%
Dwight Yorke 16%
The winner of each man of the match poll gets three points, the runner-up gets two and the third best player gets one.
Here is how the table stands after nine Premier League games:
Craig Gordon 9
Michael Chopra 9
Liam Miller 7
Grant Leadbitter 6
Paul McShane 6
Kenwyne Jones 5
Danny Higginbotham 4
Ross Wallace 2
Carlos Edwards 2
Nyron Nosworthy 1
Danny Collins 1
Dwight Yorke 1
At the end of the season the points are totted up to reveal our star performer.
Madness.
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source ?
I does like de tamarind sauce wid my Shark and Bake :rotfl:
I in de wrong thred right?
Serious.......I hope that this is just a misguided fan's raving
here is the SAFC http://www.safc.com/team/?page_id=2612
I take it back.
It was already posted
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=29670.msg360175#msg360175
only thing, this was a week ago so maybe he'll be back for the lasr match in october
so somebody does bring this thing up every other week or what?
come on fellas, dis does give people heart attacks.
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Come on fella, PLEASE check b4 you post.
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somebody stop the madness.
E-man...tlamman..flex...fire.....save we nah. Call Carlos and do a interview or put the OFFICAL latest for us....make sure and write the time and date for we.
Is like what....10times he tear something within a week and a half lol
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13336
Fans vote Miller top player
By Nick Alexander
Liam Miller was voted Sunderland's best player from their game at Arsenal on Sunday.
Miller came out on top in a fans' man of the match poll here on safc.com.
The midfielder got 31% of the votes, edging out Kenwyne Jones who got 30%. Dwight Yorke came in third place with 16%.
safc.com's top three players v Arsenal (as voted by the fans):
Liam Miller 31%
Kenwyne Jones 30%
Dwight Yorke 16%
The winner of each man of the match poll gets three points, the runner-up gets two and the third best player gets one.
Here is how the table stands after nine Premier League games:
Craig Gordon 9
Michael Chopra 9
Liam Miller 7
Grant Leadbitter 6
Paul McShane 6
Kenwyne Jones 5
Danny Higginbotham 4
Ross Wallace 2
Carlos Edwards 2
Nyron Nosworthy 1
Danny Collins 1
Dwight Yorke 1
At the end of the season the points are totted up to reveal our star performer.
Madness.
Yeah, but it kinda hard to argue with Roy I guess
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13338
Keane sets Miller benchmark
Roy Keane has challenged Liam Miller to maintain the performance level he showed against Arsenal on Sunday.
Miller produced an impressive display in Sunderland's 3-2 defeat at the Emirates Stadium and it had Keane purring.
The Black Cats boss said: "Anyone who watched the game saw that Liam Miller was outstanding.
"That is what he is capable of. Of course, to be a top player you've got to do it week in, week out and that's the challenge to Liam, I have spoken to him about it.
"I thought Liam was brilliant at Arsenal - his energy, his passing, his movement; we just want to see it on a more consistent basis."
Keane reckons Miller's current form merits a place in the Ireland squad. The midfielder last played for Ireland in May 2006.
Miller stayed on Wearside yesterday while his Sunderland team-mates Daryl Murphy and Paul McShane joined Steve Staunton's squad.
"If he is doing that against sides like Arsenal, he shouldn't just be in the [Ireland] squad, he should be in the starting eleven and dictating games for Ireland," said Keane.
Keane playing he smart. He go never say ah thing so for KJ or Carlos because he know that playing Friendlies for we is pull stones for him ::)
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13382
Halford hopes for Hammers chance
By Nick Alexander
Greg Halford hopes to capitalise on Paul McShane's lengthy ban by getting a fresh chance at Sunderland.
The full-back, a £3m summer signing from Reading, has hardly featured for the Black Cats in recent weeks, playing in one of their last five games.
McShane has filled the right-back slot in Roy Keane's team but he starts a three-game ban on Sunday after being sent off at Arsenal 11 days ago - and it will keep him out until November 10.
It could mean a return for Halford. "If I'm given a chance I've got to grab it with both hands, it could be my last," he said.
"I lacked a bit of confidence when I came here after my experience at Reading but that is in the past, I feel like I'm beginning to find my old form.
"I'm at a bigger club and there is more expectation but I'm feeling a lot better and I'm trying to be more positive.
"Confidence is a big thing - a major part of football - and maybe I have lacked a bit. But I feel much better and there is a lot more to come from me."
Sunderland resume their Barclays Premier League campaign at West Ham on Sunday (4pm).
Halford said: "It will be a tough game at West Ham but I'm really looking forward to it, everyone is. I hope to be playing."
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13403
We're still optimistic, Keane
By Nick Alexander
Sunderland go into today's game against West Ham with Roy Keane insisting they can still have a good season.
The Black Cats moved up a place in the Premier League table, from 16th to 15th, yesterday without kicking a ball and a win at Upton Park this afternoon would catapult them to 11th.
But they go into it on the back of two defeats.
Keane said: "To say I'd take survival right now is a negative attitude. We're not going to have that attitude but we know it will be a tough season.
"I'm not shocked we're in mid-table. I'm not trying to be clever but it has panned out the way I thought. It'll stay tough until the end, too.
"But to say we'll be happy to survive goes against all I believe in.
"We came up believing we could add something to the Premier League and I think we have - and maybe we can add some more.
"We hope we can get one or two of our injured lads back and that we can pick up enough results to January and then strengthen."
Sunderland (from): Gordon, Ward, Halford, Collins, Harte, Higginbotham, Nosworthy, Yorke, Etuhu, Leadbitter, Miller, Wallace, Chopra, Jones, Murphy, O'Donovan, Stokes.
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West Ham 3-1 Sunderland
By Jamie Lillywhite
A cruel own goal by Sunderland keeper Craig Gordon helped West Ham to a fortuitous victory at Upton Park.
The Hammers went ahead on nine minutes as Carlton Cole twisted to head George McCartney's cross into the top corner.
Kenwyne Jones was a constant threat as Sunderland fought back and he levelled after the break with a firm header.
But substitute Nolberto Solano's shot hit a post and went in off Gordon's boot, and Craig Bellamy made sure with an injury-time third on the break.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7043009.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13404
You make your own luck, Keane
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's defeat at West Ham:
"Annoyed would be an understatement.
"When you concede three goals there's every chance you are going to lose a game of football. I don't want to talk about luck being against us - you make your own luck.
"We were in a great position at 1-1 and the next goal was always going to be crucial. We gave away the ball very sloppily and we got punished.
"Kenwyne [Jones] is getting fitter and stronger and you saw today he's a big presence for us. He's quick and a goal threat and he'll be a big player for us between now and the end of ths season.
"It was a fantastic save from their keeper [Robert Green] and it was a massive part of the game. Sometimes I am critical of players missing chances but you have to take your hat off to the keeper, it was an unbelievable save.
"If we had gone 2-1 up, I couldn't see us losing the game.
"That's the reality of the Premier League and you have to deal with it. This is probably the best we have played away from home but we have no points.
"People might give us plaudits but I'm not here to welcome the plaudits, I'm here to win football matches."
On Dwight York's injury:
"Yorkie hurt his calf in training yesterday."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=31542.0)
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13418
Kenwyne Jones was the overwhelming winner of the man of the match vote from Sunderland's game at West Ham on Sunday.
Jones came out on top in a fans' poll here on safc.com.
The striker, who scored, got 89% of the votes. Liam Miller came in second place and Greg Halford was third.
safc.com's top three players v West Ham (as voted by the fans):
Kenwyne Jones 89%
Liam Miller 4%
Greg Halford 3%
The winner of each man of the match poll gets three points, the runner-up gets two and the third best player gets one.
Here is how the table stands after 10 Premier League games:
Craig Gordon 9
Michael Chopra 9
Liam Miller 9
Kenwyne Jones 8
Grant Leadbitter 6
Paul McShane 6
Danny Higginbotham 4
Ross Wallace 2
Carlos Edwards 2
Nyron Nosworthy 1
Danny Collins 1
Dwight Yorke 1
Greg Halford 1
At the end of the season the points are totted up to reveal our star performer.
Click here!
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well i expectin kenwyne to rack up dem points in no time...who say 15+ goals 4 d season?!!
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just for him to get 10 in his first season would be a welcome return
let him pace himself and hopefully with the return of carlos and keiron the side could go on a couple of 1-0 runs and 0-0 draws
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Sunderland's pre-match entertainment includes a bevvy of beauties in pink corsets but no pom-poms. Wearsiders are sitting slack-jawed in the stands.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/premier-league/2007-2008/sunderland-fulham-195543.html
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From Fulham's preview (http://www.fulhamfc.com/Club/News/NewsArticles/2007/October/SunderlandPreview.aspx):
One of Sunderland’s main threats in recent weeks has come from towering centre forward Kenwyne Jones. The former Southampton player has netted three times in Sunderland’s last five fixtures and his physical presence up front is sure to be a challenge for Fulham’s back line.
“I saw Kenwyne play for Southampton because I used to go and watch Bairdy a lot as an international manager,” explained Sanchez. “Over the last couple of games he’s shown that he’s a handful. He’ll be a good test for our back four and they’ll have to compete with him. But that’s what centre halves are paid to do.”
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Foul by Dickson Etuhu(Sunderland) on Diomansy Kamara(Fulham). Free kick scored by Simon Davies(Fulham) right-footed (top-left of goal) from left channel (35 yards).Sunderland 0-1 Fulham.
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come on Sunderland, buss dem in the second half
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audio feed anyone??
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http://matchlive.safc.premiumtv.co.uk/mlex/258741/matches/08152007/2873792/match_console.html?clubid=10281
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Sunderland vs Fulham pre-match
http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13459&fixture=2847462&t=1
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane has admitted that there is no getting away from the importance of Sunderland's game against Fulham.
The Black Cats' 3-1 defeat at West Ham last weekend was their third in a row and they find themselves just above the bottom three in the Premier League.
But a win over Fulham tomorrow could move the Black Cats above The Cottagers and up to 12th in the table. "It's early in the season but I wouldn't underestimate the importance of this game," said Keane.
"When you talk about six-pointers, you are usually talking about games around Easter time but it's games like this that will dictate our season.
"Any points you pick up against [Manchester] United, Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool are a massive bonus. Those games won't make or break our season, it's the home games against the likes of Fulham that will say how we do.
"If you don't pick up points it just adds pressure to the next game and we'll take any sort of win.
"If we are to achieve anything, we have to look to win the majority of our home games. People say it's a must-win game but I go into every game thinking that."
Sunderland's players were hugely disappointed last weekend after playing well and losing at Upton Park. But Keane is confident they will bounce back at the Stadium of Light.
"They are a positive bunch," he said. "They were disappointed but the spirit or confidence has not been dented, we are all very much looking forward to the game."
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no dice bro...any alterntive??
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Sunderland pressing. Somebody going to score in the next 10 minutes, lets hope is the red and white
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no dice bro...any alterntive??
every weekend is the same thing. the permanent link is on the safc first post
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=
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I know this is a Sunderland thread, but anybody watching the Man City - Chelsea game? If chelsea continue to play like this fuh the rest ah the season then people going and have real problems with them.
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I know this is a Sunderland thread, but anybody watching the Man City - Chelsea game? If chelsea continue to play like this fuh the rest ah the season then people going and have real problems with them.
I know wat u talking about, they playing some amazing football!!
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thanks midknight :beermug:
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halford go and get send off stupid stupid >:(
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I know this is a Sunderland thread, but anybody watching the Man City - Chelsea game? If chelsea continue to play like this fuh the rest ah the season then people going and have real problems with them.
I know wat u talking about, they playing some amazing football!!
scary dread just scary
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KJ!!!!!!!!
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KJ!
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joooooooooooooneeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yeah babyyyyy :wavetowel:
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anybody else hear the commentator say that the Fulham boss wants to bid for KJ?
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make no sense leaning sunderland to go somewhere like fulham unless safc go down. Next!
come on black cats...we want the 3 points
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Kenwyne 4 King Jones...
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crap...come on stokes, you suppose to do better than that
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one for jason, one for kenwyne, all we need is one for stern later.
too bad for sunderland, they needed 3 points today, the last minute rush works again, but they in a mess for the next game away to Man C, their two right side defenders suspended >:(
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how kenwyne score...anyone knows?
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KJ!
Ah see men saying KJ, KJ and waving flag and thing, wey is de scene? De man score again? HIGHLY BLESSED.
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how kenwyne score...anyone knows?
ah next header
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Jones boy....dey cyah stop you atall atall! Jam dem! Concacaf watch out!
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game done yet?
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Sounds like Sunderland coulda take it in the end. Too bad they eh get 3 pts.
with 10 men too!
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Jones boy....dey cyah stop you atall atall! Jam dem! Concacaf watch out!
If KJ continue like dat, we cud only sit here and dream, about dis yute future at some very huge club. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Sounds like Sunderland coulda take it in the end. Too bad they eh get 3 pts.
with 10 men too!
is a trini thing ;D
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Keep it up KJ, Keep it up.
Hey, whatever happened to Cartman???
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It not on Youtube yet!
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Kenwyne like he headers, moving like yorke in d man utd days :devil:
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I remember one of Yorkes greatest attribute was scoring goals with headers in his Man U days.....Looks like we have another great !
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(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/oct_07/safc_1193502389_77533572.jpg)
Kenwyne Jones gets past midfielder Steven Davis
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44202000/jpg/_44202193_jones_pa.jpg)
Kenwyne Jones grabs an late equaliser for Sunderland - heading home Grant Leadbitter's deep cross
(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/oct_07/safc_1193504335_27_SAFC_v_FULHAM.jpg)
Kenwyne Jones turns to celebrate his headed equaliser against Fulham
(http://www.safc.com/uploads/images/oct_07/safc_1193504323_20_SAFC_v_FULHAM.jpg)
Sunderland players celebrate Kenwyne Jones' equaliser at the SoL
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I remember one of Yorkes greatest attribute was scoring goals with headers in his Man U days.....Looks like we have another great !
Its funny but Dwight was no big header of the ball in his youth days. Heading he improved upon with hard work once he went to the Premier, the rest is history. Just goes to show how one can improve once you in a day to day pro set up
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BBC's match of the day just lauded Kenwyne Jones yet again. I also saw the clip, no trademark flip celebration after the goal; u cud see he was exhausted and real work for that goal.
I see Nani on the other hand also have a back flip as well, but he has a twist in it, lol
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Just watched the game.honestly can't believe I watched that whole game, but I wanted to see KJ. Just a couple of observations. Sunderland far too dependent on KJ and very predictable. Far too many Sunderland players lack composure. Once they feel the pressure they panic and give the ball away cheap cheap. All said, maybe they doing what necessary to get results, but I cant say I enjoy them. Carlos needs to be back in the squad to give them variety and penetration. Roy needs to go to the market in January and I mean foreign market. Go to France or Spain get some creativity, there seem to have an abundance of young play makers. KJ need help maybe be a speedy nippy front man to run off him and cause trouble from deep positions.
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Highlights
http://goaltube.org/modules.php?name=Video_Stream&page=watch&id=1106
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Highlights
http://goaltube.org/modules.php?name=Video_Stream&page=watch&id=1106
good result with ten men
good goal KJ
but dat give away in the first half, :o good thing dat fella have ah "Z" foot oui
Thanks Filho
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after looking at the highlights sunderland coulda win dat game dread kj missed a second header and leadbitter throw way a volley dat kj lobbed to him
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Jones boy....dey cyah stop you atall atall! Jam dem! Concacaf watch out!
If KJ continue like dat, we cud only sit here and dream, about dis yute future at some very huge club. HIGHLY BLESSED.
No more dreaming Supa,all de man and dem wey talkiing bout KJ eh prove nuttin yet, fail tuh realize de proof unfolding before dey eyes...is proof dey want, well look it dey ... KJ only getting better and better and is just ah matter of time before he playing for ah much bigger club,he clearly showing de EPL what he can do.The problem is the deal he now sign would make it difficult to get away from and maybe the only way he cud get out of Sunderland is for them to go down,not that ah wishing that,but I cyar see Keane letting him go if they stay up,it would take ah ridiculous amount ah money from one ah de big teams to make something happen.All KJ have to do is to continue bussin the net and raising his value and let that biddin begin......Ah know it hah man choopsin and bawlin i carrying on so becuz he score (again, i might add ) but is not just that, de man is ah force to reckon with on de pitch every game,if yuh defense eh ready is sure goal.KJ just have to work on his ball control which i'm sure will only get better but other than that KJ will make big noise in the EPL if not with Sunderland with some big team ...watch and see..doh blink it happening now.
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after looking at the highlights sunderland coulda win dat game dread kj missed a second header and leadbitter throw way a volley dat kj lobbed to him
good that yuh notice that one...that was excellent vision from KJ
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Another very good performance by K. Jones! His accurate passing and ball control haven’t received a lot of attention or praise so far, but they should be mentioned.
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after looking at the highlights sunderland coulda win dat game dread kj missed a second header and leadbitter throw way a volley dat kj lobbed to him
good that yuh notice that one...that was excellent vision from KJ
Miss what ? the man ain't miss nothing , don't exaggerate, the ball was not directly on his head, plus the defender boxed him out the play, making it even more difficult to connect cleanly without fouling the defender. have you noticed that KJ is a gentle man player ? the brother don't play nasty at all, he has a very clean game, most trini players with the exception of avery whitley and york , have a real clean game, that's why we does lose so much, BC our game is to clean.
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Just watched the game.honestly can't believe I watched that whole game, but I wanted to see KJ. Just a couple of observations. Sunderland far too dependent on KJ and very predictable. Far too many Sunderland players lack composure. Once they feel the pressure they panic and give the ball away cheap cheap. All said, maybe they doing what necessary to get results, but I cant say I enjoy them. Carlos needs to be back in the squad to give them variety and penetration. Roy needs to go to the market in January and I mean foreign market. Go to France or Spain get some creativity, there seem to have an abundance of young play makers. KJ need help maybe be a speedy nippy front man to run off him and cause trouble from deep positions.
Dais just how Keane have dem playing. If you look you could even see Keane mouthing and gesticulating "get it to Kenwyne" all de damn time. Yes dey predictable; but ah suppose maybe this is the best way they could play at the moment with key players out.
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Look's like keane told kenwyn to cool it with the flipping, hence the reason why no flips i guess.
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after looking at the highlights sunderland coulda win dat game dread kj missed a second header and leadbitter throw way a volley dat kj lobbed to him
good that yuh notice that one...that was excellent vision from KJ
Miss what ? the man ain't miss nothing , don't exaggerate, the ball was not directly on his head, plus the defender boxed him out the play, making it even more difficult to connect cleanly without fouling the defender. have you noticed that KJ is a gentle man player ? the brother don't play nasty at all, he has a very clean game, most trini players with the exception of avery whitley and york , have a real clean game, that's why we does lose so much, BC our game is to clean.
He was referring to the lobbed pass, not the miss.
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Another very good performance by K. Jones! His accurate passing and ball control haven’t received a lot of attention or praise so far, but they should be mentioned.
Yep, and that volley was beautiful.
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after looking at the highlights sunderland coulda win dat game dread kj missed a second header and leadbitter throw way a volley dat kj lobbed to him
good that yuh notice that one...that was excellent vision from KJ
Miss what ? the man ain't miss nothing , don't exaggerate, the ball was not directly on his head, plus the defender boxed him out the play, making it even more difficult to connect cleanly without fouling the defender. have you noticed that KJ is a gentle man player ? the brother don't play nasty at all, he has a very clean game, most trini players with the exception of avery whitley and york , have a real clean game, that's why we does lose so much, BC our game is to clean.
He was referring to the lobbed pass, not the miss.
Something funny about this round of conversation. :rotfl: you guys are reall funny JDB you good yes !!!! :rotfl:
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after looking at the highlights sunderland coulda win dat game dread kj missed a second header and leadbitter throw way a volley dat kj lobbed to him
good that yuh notice that one...that was excellent vision from KJ
Miss what ? the man ain't miss nothing , don't exaggerate, the ball was not directly on his head, plus the defender boxed him out the play, making it even more difficult to connect cleanly without fouling the defender. have you noticed that KJ is a gentle man player ? the brother don't play nasty at all, he has a very clean game, most trini players with the exception of avery whitley and york , have a real clean game, that's why we does lose so much, BC our game is to clean.
He was referring to the lobbed pass, not the miss.
Read what grande-man say nah bro. quote KJ missed a second header, that's what i was refering too. positive.
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Just watched the game.honestly can't believe I watched that whole game, but I wanted to see KJ. Just a couple of observations. Sunderland far too dependent on KJ and very predictable. Far too many Sunderland players lack composure. Once they feel the pressure they panic and give the ball away cheap cheap. All said, maybe they doing what necessary to get results, but I cant say I enjoy them. Carlos needs to be back in the squad to give them variety and penetration. Roy needs to go to the market in January and I mean foreign market. Go to France or Spain get some creativity, there seem to have an abundance of young play makers. KJ need help maybe be a speedy nippy front man to run off him and cause trouble from deep positions.
Observer I say that on another post an men call meh all kinda thing,some call meh a**,how I could say only kenwynne doing all the work,yet still ,it was a bbc commentator that said and I quote "kenwynne jones is in defence heading out a ball,runs up the middle takes control of the ball hits a one two with another player,play results in a corner,corner comes in kenwynne scores,hello is anyone but kenwynne playing"
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Look's like keane told kenwyn to cool it with the flipping, hence the reason why no flips i guess.
Kenwyne had hardly trained all week because of a slight niggling injury, that's why he was told not to risk the flips in case it aggravated it
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Just watched the game.honestly can't believe I watched that whole game, but I wanted to see KJ. Just a couple of observations. Sunderland far too dependent on KJ and very predictable. Far too many Sunderland players lack composure. Once they feel the pressure they panic and give the ball away cheap cheap. All said, maybe they doing what necessary to get results, but I cant say I enjoy them. Carlos needs to be back in the squad to give them variety and penetration. Roy needs to go to the market in January and I mean foreign market. Go to France or Spain get some creativity, there seem to have an abundance of young play makers. KJ need help maybe be a speedy nippy front man to run off him and cause trouble from deep positions.
Observer I say that on another post an men call meh all kinda thing,some call meh a**,how I could say only kenwynne doing all the work,yet still ,it was a bbc commentator that said and I quote "kenwynne jones is in defence heading out a ball,runs up the middle takes control of the ball hits a one two with another player,play results in a corner,corner comes in kenwynne scores,hello is anyone but kenwynne playing"
I imagine that Kenwyne pass the ball to heself on the two headers he score since he at Sunderland right? ::)
An above average player on an average team will always look like he pulling more than his share of the weight. No need to exagerate though.
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Jones boy....dey cyah stop you atall atall! Jam dem! Concacaf watch out!
If KJ continue like dat, we cud only sit here and dream, about dis yute future at some very huge club. HIGHLY BLESSED.
No more dreaming Supa,all de man and dem wey talkiing bout KJ eh prove nuttin yet, fail tuh realize de proof unfolding before dey eyes...is proof dey want, well look it dey ... KJ only getting better and better and is just ah matter of time before he playing for ah much bigger club,he clearly showing de EPL what he can do.The problem is the deal he now sign would make it difficult to get away from and maybe the only way he cud get out of Sunderland is for them to go down,not that ah wishing that,but I cyar see Keane letting him go if they stay up,it would take ah ridiculous amount ah money from one ah de big teams to make something happen.All KJ have to do is to continue bussin the net and raising his value and let that biddin begin......Ah know it hah man choopsin and bawlin i carrying on so becuz he score (again, i might add ) but is not just that, de man is ah force to reckon with on de pitch every game,if yuh defense eh ready is sure goal.KJ just have to work on his ball control which i'm sure will only get better but other than that KJ will make big noise in the EPL if not with Sunderland with some big team ...watch and see..doh blink it happening now.
i would also say for him not to do that piece of assness that he did with Southampton by refusing to play.
EPL clubs higher up the table will definitely splash out the cash if he continues this well
just hope he doesnt turn out to be a one season wonder like John Stead.
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Look's like keane told kenwyn to cool it with the flipping, hence the reason why no flips i guess.
maybe..dunno. but he doh always do the flip, so it could be he just chose not to
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i would also say for him not to do that piece of assness that he did with Southampton by refusing to play.
Dat so called piece a assness KJ do might just turn out to be the best thing he will ever do in his career.
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i would also say for him not to do that piece of assness that he did with Southampton by refusing to play.
Dat so called piece a assness KJ do might just turn out to be the best thing he will ever do in his career.
We who live abroad, more so than the local, will probably understand the need to assert one's self or be continually left back.
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Keane: Fans were different class
Oct 28, 2007
Sunderland Echo
Roy Keane paid tribute to the Sunderland fans after Saturday's 1-1 draw against Fulham.
Sunderland boss Roy Keane believes his side deserved a draw against Fulham, and paid tribute to the Cats fans who never gave up hope of a comeback.
He said: "They keep going - the fans were different class today, they kept them going."
Keane added: "It's funny, when you are a goal down at home with 10 or 15 minutes to go and you are down to 10 men, we will probably look back and say it was a point gained rather than two dropped.
"It was vital we got something out of the game. It would have been fantastic to have nicked it at the end, but the players earned the right.
"It was a strange day."
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i would also say for him not to do that piece of assness that he did with Southampton by refusing to play.
Dat so called piece a assness KJ do might just turn out to be the best thing he will ever do in his career.
we could say that now that is the best thing he coulda done in his career..but what if Keane was a manager that frowns on that sort of player attitude and pulled out of the deal?..he mighta still been at Southampaton.
so was a good thing too that Keane actually 'wanted' the man bad bad..but Keane go have that in the back of his head once the rumours in the papers start to fly in de summer.
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i would also say for him not to do that piece of assness that he did with Southampton by refusing to play.
Dat so called piece a assness KJ do might just turn out to be the best thing he will ever do in his career.
we could say that now that is the best thing he coulda done in his career..but what if Keane was a manager that frowns on that sort of player attitude and pulled out of the deal?..he mighta still been at Southampaton.
so was a good thing too that Keane actually 'wanted' the man bad bad..but Keane go have that in the back of his head once the rumours in the papers start to fly in de summer.
managers only frown on that sort of the behavior when is their player leaving...
in this mercenary, dog eat dog football world, them men only too glad to be on de right side of the dealings..
*see morality thread
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The Independent
http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/premiership/article3106963.ece
Sunderland 1 Fulham 1: Keane may lower intensity to raise Black Cats' game
By Simon Rushworth
Published: 29 October 2007
It takes a brave man to question Roy Keane but British football has produced few braver than Stuart Pearce. When he talks, even Sunderland's self-assured manager listens and if the Black Cats do preserve their Premiership status this season then a debt of gratitude may be owed to the former Newcastle United full-back.
"There are people who call themselves professionals but in Stuart Pearce we had a player who gave meaning to the word," said Keane in his 2002 autobiography. "He was my role model."
Hence, when Pearce paid an impromptu visit to Sunderland's Academy of Light last week, to observe his former protégé putting the club's first-team squad through its paces, his views mattered more than most.
"Someone whose opinion I trust said he had been to lots of clubs and not seen that intensity and that's something I have to take on board," explained Keane, after his lethargic team had snatched a draw from the depths of defeat. "I'd hate my players to walk through training but it's something I'm prepared to look at.
"I'm not stupid enough to believe me and the staff have got all the answers and if someone you trust says they've not seen that level of intensity at other clubs it's something to think about."
Keane has been crippled by injuries and inconsistency this season and Pearce believes a punishing training schedule lies at the root of both problems. Certainly Sunderland laboured through the opening 45 minutes of a fixture they appeared destined to lose and only Fulham's profligacy prevented a damaging defeat in front of the Premier League's loudest supporters.
"To make [training] more intense for a shorter time might work for us when it comes to games," conceded the athletic and admirably frank Sunderland defender, Nyron Nosworthy. "Every player is different – some like to work hard and some might want to take it easy before a match. I think [our training regime] might have taken its toll."
Their form may be fitful and their bodies fragile but when it comes to match fitness few teams can better Sunderland. Keane might envisage long-term gain from listening to his mentor's advice but the fact remains that the Black Cats are the masters of endurance.When the Sunderland forward, Kenwyne Jones, cancelled out a spectacular first-half free-kick from the Fulham midfielder, Simon Davies, five minutes from time few home supporters were surprised. It was the fifth time this season Keane's players have scored in the final 10 minutes.
"It helps if you have a 6ft 5in centre forward because every time the ball goes into the box you have a chance," said Lawrie Sanchez, Fulham's downbeat manager, after Jones had headed home his fourth goal in six games. "If Sunderland didn't have him they wouldn't be the same.
"There are similarities with [Didier] Drogba. Jones is a big man, good in the air and an all-action player. But it is a bit early in his career to make that comparison."
Keane is an open minded Manager quite different to his percieved demeanour as a player. The team does look lethargic and lacks innovation. Hopefully less intensive training will reduce physical tiredness and reduce mental tiredness as well.
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i would also say for him not to do that piece of assness that he did with Southampton by refusing to play.
Dat so called piece a assness KJ do might just turn out to be the best thing he will ever do in his career.
we could say that now that is the best thing he coulda done in his career..but what if Keane was a manager that frowns on that sort of player attitude and pulled out of the deal?..he mighta still been at Southampaton.
so was a good thing too that Keane actually 'wanted' the man bad bad..but Keane go have that in the back of his head once the rumours in the papers start to fly in de summer.
managers only frown on that sort of the behavior when is their player leaving...
in this mercenary, dog eat dog football world, them men only too glad to be on de right side of the dealings..
*see morality thread
yeah many times a manager will sit a player when there are negotiations for his transfer, especially if it is for their own benefit, so I believe that KJ did the right thing.
All this negative talks about him Refusing to play is just bad mind on the part of Southampton.
maybe they thought he was under their thumb and when he did his own thing they clucked like ole hens.
still cant believe that TnT peeps think he did the wrong thing.
He did what he thought was RIGHT for him...... ;)
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Time for Sunderland to get some wins.
They only 3 pts ahead of the bottom club.
Lewwe start with Chelsea, 1-0 to Sunderland :)
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Just watched the game.honestly can't believe I watched that whole game, but I wanted to see KJ. Just a couple of observations. Sunderland far too dependent on KJ and very predictable. Far too many Sunderland players lack composure. Once they feel the pressure they panic and give the ball away cheap cheap. All said, maybe they doing what necessary to get results, but I cant say I enjoy them. Carlos needs to be back in the squad to give them variety and penetration. Roy needs to go to the market in January and I mean foreign market. Go to France or Spain get some creativity, there seem to have an abundance of young play makers. KJ need help maybe be a speedy nippy front man to run off him and cause trouble from deep positions.
Observer I say that on another post an men call meh all kinda thing,some call meh a**,how I could say only kenwynne doing all the work,yet still ,it was a bbc commentator that said and I quote "kenwynne jones is in defence heading out a ball,runs up the middle takes control of the ball hits a one two with another player,play results in a corner,corner comes in kenwynne scores,hello is anyone but kenwynne playing"
I imagine that Kenwyne pass the ball to heself on the two headers he score since he at Sunderland right? ::)
An above average player on an average team will always look like he pulling more than his share of the weight. No need to exagerate though.
Me eh exagerating boss,just quoting what someone said,plus yuh could take as many corner kicks and still play shit..........
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Just watched the game.honestly can't believe I watched that whole game, but I wanted to see KJ. Just a couple of observations. Sunderland far too dependent on KJ and very predictable. Far too many Sunderland players lack composure. Once they feel the pressure they panic and give the ball away cheap cheap. All said, maybe they doing what necessary to get results, but I cant say I enjoy them. Carlos needs to be back in the squad to give them variety and penetration. Roy needs to go to the market in January and I mean foreign market. Go to France or Spain get some creativity, there seem to have an abundance of young play makers. KJ need help maybe be a speedy nippy front man to run off him and cause trouble from deep positions.
Observer I say that on another post an men call meh all kinda thing,some call meh a**,how I could say only kenwynne doing all the work,yet still ,it was a bbc commentator that said and I quote "kenwynne jones is in defence heading out a ball,runs up the middle takes control of the ball hits a one two with another player,play results in a corner,corner comes in kenwynne scores,hello is anyone but kenwynne playing"
I imagine that Kenwyne pass the ball to heself on the two headers he score since he at Sunderland right? ::)
An above average player on an average team will always look like he pulling more than his share of the weight. No need to exagerate though.
Me eh exagerating boss,just quoting what someone said,plus yuh could take as many corner kicks and still play shit..........
The exaggeration wasn't in reference to the quote - it was in reference to an earlier statement you made about SAFC being a riff raff team with only 3 good players (incidentally the 3 trinis on the team). If you want to take one isolated comment from a coulour comentator in one match to justify you passing judgement on a whole team of players who you can't have possibly seen play as much as the three trinis in question, go right ahead, but I will still call it as I see it, and I see it as exaggerating.
As for taking all the corners and still playing shit, I don't see what that has to do with the point I made. The fact of the matter is that Kenwyne has had to receive the balls that he has scored as headers, and in both cases they were damn good crosses too.
You under no obligation to recognise that as a bias trini supporter, but don't come with that talk - KJ can't take the field alone against Chelsea or even Derby...
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de man adding on to Kenwaynne height now he 6 ft 4
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Sunderland 1-1 Fulham
By Jamie Lillywhite
A late header from Kenwyne Jones gave 10-man Sunderland a point.
Simon Davies surprised the Black Cats with a speculative 30-yard free-kick to give Fulham a deserved first-half lead.
Sunderland, ineffective until the final stages, played the last quarter with 10 after Greg Halford pulled back David Healy and was handed a second yellow.
But Jones flicked in from six yards in the 86th minute and might have won it with another header, substitute Anthony Stokes also denied in a frantic finale.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7054068.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13467
It was a game of two halves
Boss Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's draw with Fulham:
"It was a game of two halves as they say. The players were different class in the second half. They kept going and earned the right to get a result - and we nearly nicked it at the end, which would have been very nice.
"I'm not sure whether I'm relieved to get a point or disappointed not to get three. I'm confused - it was a strange day.
"We were a goal down at home with 15 minutes to go and down to 10 men - we will probably look back and say that it was a point gained.
"It was vital that we got something out of the game. It would have been fantastic to have nicked it at the end.
"Our squad is being so tested so early in the season - all I can do is give credit to the players, they keep going.
"I thought the fans were different class today, they kept going as well. I admire them for staying with us, they kept the team going, especially when we were down to 10 men.
"Half-time came at a good time for us because we were sloppy and sluggish in the first half. You need to start quickly in these games.
"We stayed in the game and that's going to be vital for us - the ability to stay in games.
"We keep talking about our squad being tested. Roy O'Donovan got injured in the warm-up and our full-back [Greg Halford] is now suspended for two games.
"I thought Greg showed a good attitude today. He kept getting in those forward positions. If you want to be a good player, you have to keep getting there and keep having a go and I admire him for that.
"A lot of our players are playing with injury problems. In an ideal world, I'd like to give them a chance for the injuries to settle down.
"Kenwyne Jones hasn't trained all week - he had not even kicked a ball. We're asking players to keep pushing their bodies. I don't like doing it but we've not choice. Kenwyne was outstanding, he's a real good team player.
"Lots of good players have bad days but they still show for it, they are still brave and they still put their bodies on the line, and today the players did that in the second half.
"The law of averages says that Sunderland at home - with their fans - will get chances and we kept going and got our rewards.
"As manager of the club, I've got to ask myself why we were so flat in the first half. Possibly we've been pushing the players too much in training."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=31766.0)
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13470
Halford gets two-game ban
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane will be without his first and second-choice right-backs when Sunderland go to Manchester City on Monday.
Greg Halford misses the game after getting sent off against Fulham on Saturday.
The former Reading man was booked twice at the Stadium of Light.
It would normally result in a one-game ban but Halford is sidelined for two because it was his second red card of the season - he was also sent off at Luton in the Carling Cup.
Roy Keane said: "Greg's made a decision and it has cost him. Now he's suspended for a couple of games and players start wondering why they can't get into the swing of things.
"If you keep getting booked and sent off, it's tough. We're not in a position to be losing players like this."
Paul McShane also misses the City game as he serves the last match of a three-game suspension.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/africa/7071765.stm
Etuhu focusing on Sunderland job
Dickson Etuhu made his debut for Nigeria earlier this month
Dickson Etuhu says will not allow his Africa Nations Cup dream to get in the way of his club ambitions.
The Sunderland midfielder was handed his Nigeria debut in a 2-2 friendly draw with Mexico earlier this month.
He has now put himself in line for the tournament to be held in Ghana in January after impressing in his first Super Eagles appearance.
"It was great to get the call-up and it was a good experience playing for Nigeria," Etuhu said.
"I had been called into a couple of other squads, but couldn't make it because of injury, so it was nice to add an international debut to my career.
However, Etuhu is adamant he must concentrate on his career at the Stadium of Light.
"But I'm not really thinking about Nigeria or what might or might not happen in January," Etuhu said.
It was great to get the call-up and it was a good experience playing for Nigeria
Dickson Etuhu
"Let's cross that bridge when or if we come to it. My only focus is to do better for Sunderland, and I certainly feel my performances can improve.
"We want to get more points on the board, and that's my only concern."
Etuhu, a US$3m signing from Norwich in the off-season, freely admits there is more to come from him as he makes his way in the top flight.
However, the former Manchester City trainee has proved a central figure in Roy Keane's side, starting 10 of the 12 fixtures for the Black Cats so far this season.
His form for his club helped to win him his international bow, and Keane could be forgiven for anticipating the announcement of Berti Vogts' squad for the tournament.
If selected, Etuhu would be required to meet up with his international team-mates on January 4, 16 days before the competition gets underway, and could be away for up to six weeks.
Etuhu may have further chances to stake his claim in friendlies against Australia and Switzerland during the next international break.
His progress will be as closely monitored on Wearside as it is from the Nigeria dug-out.
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for all those who are not aware
Premier League Week 12
Kickoff 2day at 4:00 tt time ( 8pm UK)
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game done.
1-1 all... Sunderland was playin ah man down since the 60th minute also being a goal down since the 30th minute or so and kenwyne in the 86th shows his consistent pedigree and buries ah header from ah six yard corss... leadbitter supplied the cross.
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game done.
1-1 all... Sunderland was playin ah man down since the 60th minute also being a goal down since the 30th minute or so and kenwyne in the 86th shows his consistent pedigree and buries ah header from ah six yard corss... leadbitter supplied the cross.
:shameonyou:
that waz last week against Fulham padner,
Sunderland v Man City is today at 4
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Jefferz, today is de day to vote eh ;D
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game done.
1-1 all... Sunderland was playin ah man down since the 60th minute also being a goal down since the 30th minute or so and kenwyne in the 86th shows his consistent pedigree and buries ah header from ah six yard corss... leadbitter supplied the cross.
Full match report an ting eh lol.
Jefferz yuh not supposed to drink on election day.
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Anyone knows if this showing live .
If so, on what channel CNC3 or FSC,
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game done.
1-1 all... Sunderland was playin ah man down since the 60th minute also being a goal down since the 30th minute or so and kenwyne in the 86th shows his consistent pedigree and buries ah header from ah six yard corss... leadbitter supplied the cross.
Davyjenny contender.
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game done.
1-1 all... Sunderland was playin ah man down since the 60th minute also being a goal down since the 30th minute or so and kenwyne in the 86th shows his consistent pedigree and buries ah header from ah six yard corss... leadbitter supplied the cross.
Jefferz..like it too early for you to post, you still have yampee in yuh eye.
of course..you will be vindicated if dis turns out to be what happens this afternoon....you will then be obligated to give us some lucky numbers
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Jefferz....yuh leading wid "post ah de year" wid dat one. Yuh really come back strong. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Jefferz whats the numbers for the £18,000,000 rollover ?
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Jefferz....yuh leading wid "post ah de year" wid dat one. Yuh really come back strong. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
It definitely ranking up there...but Tallman might have ah slight edge on this one. It is still a classic tho.... :rotfl:
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Jefferz....yuh leading wid "post ah de year" wid dat one. Yuh really come back strong. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
It definitely ranking up there...but Tallman might have ah slight edge on this one. It is still a classic tho.... :rotfl:
Haul yuh ass :devil:. I in second place. Jefferz hadda take win wit dis one.
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Tallman participants are not allowed to judge the competition.
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Tallman participants are not allowed to judge the competition.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
diz is de ONE time men ent want to be fuss :devil:
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Tallman participants are not allowed to judge the competition.
Tell him nah Peong. ;D Buh doh worry T, de year eh over yet.... Some forumite might just come from behind and snatch de title from you or jefferz. :devil:
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eh... I wouldnt lie, after playin ah volleyball tournement since friday early mornings and late night wit fellahz and gyuls teams from the dominican republic, ecuador and venezuala... i rel beat out... last night was dey last night too... so we was out til late...
geh back at 4... buss ah wicked snack down wit ah padnah after rel drinkin, wake up three hours later to drop de two venezualans i was hostin at school tuh catch dey buss tuh de airport....
right before dat ah come on here in ah deviously tired state... I eh see nuttin on de match... I was going to choose between actually lookin it up on bbc or fallin off the side of my chair, hopin dey eh no sharp object where i fall and go back tuh sleep... buh eh eh... I cyah see straight buh doh mind that i look it up... dey have de match up Man City vs Sunderland ah go tuh live text ah see dis shit and tink... well wuh like kenwyne score again... i didnt watch de fulham match last week so dem details was like gibberish to me.
I figure though... "hey, atleast I have ah priemership match to look forward too."
and furthermore... if kenwyne score in de 86th minute to ah leadbitter cross... ah go rel laugh.
I doh mind takin win fuh dis one. I done know I can be about as quick as ah snails through molasses in meh own time,
anyway...
vote COP... yadda yadda yadda... im off to bep out for a day... or two.
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game done.
1-1 all... Sunderland was playin ah man down since the 60th minute also being a goal down since the 30th minute or so and kenwyne in the 86th shows his consistent pedigree and buries ah header from ah six yard corss... leadbitter supplied the cross.
:shameonyou:
that waz last week against Fulham padner,
Sunderland v Man City is today at 4
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: an he first to come in de thread an give results, big an bold.
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what tv station is this coming on? ???
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what tv station is this coming on? ???
Setanta Sports
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Any free link for de poor man?
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jefferz go make me lorse my wuk for bussin out ah big laugh in the office. the man brighten up mih day with that post yes.
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when i see that post first thing i tell myself, "hmm i know the clocks gone back but waaay dat game play already ??? "
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Jeffers bro :rotfl: :bs:
alyuh meh eyes still wet from laughing but if de man predict what going an happen de ah go drink meh own pee!!
50 cents Jones scoring
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I was wondering about the similarities of the 2 games. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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game done.
1-1 all... Sunderland was playin ah man down since the 60th minute also being a goal down since the 30th minute or so and kenwyne in the 86th shows his consistent pedigree and buries ah header from ah six yard corss... leadbitter supplied the cross.
All yuh is not just good kicks but great kicks yes! Oh lord!
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http://4.livefooty.doctor-serv.com/mon5.11/ManCity_Sunderland.html
http://4.livefooty.doctor-serv.com/mon5.11/ManCity_Sunderland2.html
these streams should have it
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Tank yuh supporter, but ah having a lil discreprancy wit de time. Ah living in Foreign and meh time change back. Wha time de game is for me?..Somebody tell meh nah
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Tank yuh supporter, but ah having a lil discreprancy wit de time. Ah living in Foreign and meh time change back. Wha time de game is for me?..Somebody tell meh nah
According to the first post, its 4:00pm TnT time, so that should make it 3:00pm EST time.
"Spring - Forward, Fall - Back".
Cheers
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http://www.fsicrew.info/live-streams/england.php
another streaming website
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for those of use who have employers that is monitor bandwidth and data packet type usage:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/premier-league/2007-2008/man-city-sunderland-195558.html
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ah could see some back flips oui
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Game start. GO SUNDERLAND!!!!
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oh dear, the Setanta commentator used the word laid back to describe KJ again :-\....
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somebody give we de starting lineup nah
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Jones is receiving treatment for an injury, he's down and this is worrying for Roy Keane...
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sunderland not looking bad
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Manchester City 60.5% Sunderland 39.5% ...ball posession
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Sunderland quality and KJ does look like he running in Trini time. Hope Sunderland take points from this. City's foreign contingent will begin to wain as the season goes along.
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Come on jones pull me out of this hole need to get back in top 25 in fantasy league..........
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Jones hurt.
# 10'Jones is receiving treatment for an injury, he's down and this is worrying for Roy Keane...
# 12'Jones eventually limps off but he seems okay and should resume play soon.
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Come on jones pull me out of this hole need to get back in top 25 in fantasy league..........
:rotfl: :rotfl: I would like him to score becuz he from TNT, but I also want Elano to score a couple, as I have him as meh capt this week ...you looking to get back into the top 25, you good,...I still trying tuh get in de fust 50...
COME ON ELANO BUSS UP DE NET
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Spend your money on petrov..........
Big player.........
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Jones hurt.
# 10'Jones is receiving treatment for an injury, he's down and this is worrying for Roy Keane...
# 12'Jones eventually limps off but he seems okay and should resume play soon.
Peong yuh come like Jefferz ,yuh late, yuh eh see ah post the exact ting yuh copy and paste bout KJ 8 post ago
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Possession: Manchester City 64.4% Sunderland 35.6%
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No ah not like flickin Jefferz. :)
Totally different situation.
My bad tho.
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30'
This is what City want, Elano dropping deeper and running at the defence from the halfway line, he plays it through to Mpenza who tries the shot on the fall but it goes well wide.
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Jefferz, today is de day to vote eh ;D
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:ah cyah stop laughing wid dis one, classic!!!!
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No ah not like flickin Jefferz. :)
Totally different situation.
My bad tho.
Ah rite nah.. is not like ah nominating yuh tuh take wey Tallman and Jefferz award,dat done lock up already ;D
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Stats:
MC SU
18 Tackles 7
143 Accurate passes 69
18 Bad passes 21
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WTF was Ladbetter doing! Some ah dem playas does think and then do real shit!
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33'
The home fans are booing pantomime villain Keane as he comes out of the dugout to talk to his players. Elano has the ball now and tries it from distance but well over.
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35'
Sunderland break at pace and Stokes and Leadbitter are two on three and Stokes finds Leadbitter who only has grandpa Hamman to beat but he shoots early, and poorly, and it'sdragged harmlessly wide! He should have run at Hamman, who's about ninety and as slow as a Spiritualized b-side.
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35'
Sunderland break at pace and Stokes and Leadbitter are two on three and Stokes finds Leadbitter who only has grandpa Hamman to beat but he shoots early, and poorly, and it'sdragged harmlessly wide! He should have run at Hamman, who's about ninety and as slow as a Spiritualized b-side.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Dat commentator sparing no blushes yes!
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44'
Free-kick to City a whole 40 yards out which Elano is impudent enough to decide is a shooting opportunity. He hammers it well wide, and hopefully will not do that again.
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Oh mey god ladbitter is a grade A shithound! He cah even put in a good cross. Even Wes Brown does geh lucky now and then!
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0-0 HT
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audio feed anyone???
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somebody give we de starting lineup nah
Gordon
Nosworthy Collins Higginbotham, Harte
Leadbitter, Miller Etuhu, Murphy
Kenwyne, Stokes.
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audio feed anyone???
Audio link here
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
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City add Vassell for some attack.
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somebody give we de starting lineup nah
Gordon
Nosworthy Collins Higginbotham, Harte
Leadbitter, Miller Etuhu, Murphy
Kenwyne, Stokes.
Chopra for Leadbitter 60th
Wallace for Stokes 60th (my prediction)
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AHHHHHH SEEEEEINGGG ITT!!!! WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER!
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45'
MAN CITY SUB: Vassel on for Johnson, one can assume as Sven tries to open things up by bringing some more width and pace to the right side of attack.
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mms://streamwebtown.com/MCvSU
TRY THAT OR
http://www.fsicrew.info/live-streams/england.php SCROLL TO SUNDERLAND GAME AND CLICK ON WMP
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somebody give we de starting lineup nah
Gordon
Nosworthy Collins Higginbotham, Harte
Leadbitter, Miller Etuhu, Murphy
Kenwyne, Stokes.
thanks bro :beermug:
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Sunderland sound like some headless chickens.
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jones jus signal 2 d bench
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jus ah change ah boots
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Man City bringin on a nex striker, Bianchi.
Bianchi for Mpenza.
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chopra 4 stokes and wallace 4 murphy
changes already made
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somebody give we de starting lineup nah
Gordon
Nosworthy Collins Higginbotham, Harte
Leadbitter, Miller Etuhu, Murphy
Kenwyne, Stokes.
Chopra for Leadbitter 60th
Wallace for Stokes 60th (my prediction)
Close.
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dont find sunderland playing like jones is their target man
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dont find sunderland playing like jones is their target man
KJ under manners today. What Sunderland need is players that could take advantage when defenders focusing on Kenwyne.
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flippin bullet from stephen ireland
man city 1
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Look at dat judgment goal nah dread......Steuppes
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wallace shoulda start 4 me based on his recent performances
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wha de mudda neck is dat, dey take off mey fantasy capt ...steupppppps
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geez boy let them injured men come back quick....... this team huting eye
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steups....
sunderland frustrating to watch when dey ready.
i surprise keane doh lash some ah dem men.
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wha kinda ah cross is dat ...steupppps
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clean sheet 4 dunne and he sure to get some bonus pts......so ah thankful
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If Sundeland continuing playing like this they definately playing in de championship div next season...
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1-0 FT.... One shit game... Sunderland are pathetic... KJ was bad today... I know injuries have apart to play but they real terrible boy.. almost hard to watch
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If Sundeland continuing playing like this they definately playing in de championship div next season...
Carlos, Richardson, Whitehead, Dwight. Their entire first choice midfield mash up. They'll likely be better than this come next year.
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Boy sometimes when I done watch sunderland play,I does be exhausted,like I was playing,the only reason ah doh lick done meh TV is because ah the mess it go make....LOL
Something have to be done soon with that team boy,them defenders is ah bunch ah voom kickers,chopra look like evan almighty,but he cyah save sunderland fuh shit,miller he does be tunning around in middle ah the field like ah turkey cock,ent sure what to do,god lend ah hand to that team................
Ah Tired........
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Boy sometimes when I done watch sunderland play,I does be exhausted,like I was playing,the only reason ah doh lick done meh TV is because ah the mess it go make....LOL
Something have to be done soon with that team boy,them defenders is ah bunch ah voom kickers,chopra look like evan almighty,but he cyah save sunderland fuh shit,miller he does be tunning around in middle ah the field like ah turkey cock,ent sure what to do,god lend ah hand to that team................
Ah Tired........
co sign :beermug:
Sunderland played 4-4-2 today yet still their game plan was the same as a 4-5-1 ???
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If Sundeland continuing playing like this they definately playing in de championship div next season...
Carlos, Richardson, Whitehead, Dwight. Their entire first choice midfield mash up. They'll likely be better than this come next year.
I agree if them breddas was playing we wudda see a different Sunderland but by the time dem man come back,hopefully soon,it will take them a few games to build up some sort of chemistry and dem other side eh waiting on no one. Sunderland better recognize they in the EPL now adn step it up,I really hope dem fellas make a difference .As far as I concern de only good player Sunderland get with all de money Keane spend is KJ .....and yes, ah bias................ buh ah right too.
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I listen to the game on the radio on a City feed and they felt that Sunderland should have gotten something i.e. City wasn't much better and Sunderland had more possession.
Sunderland is not doing badly, especially compared to their last two seasons in the premiership.
They are on a stretch now where they are playing better but not getting the breaks yet. Despite that they still not in the drop zone.
Most importantly they are in every game and are competitive. When they get the injured legs back and maybe make a January purchase they will push on in the new year, just as they did last year.
Patience.
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TnT could give sunderland 5
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I listen to the game on the radio on a City feed and they felt that Sunderland should have gotten something i.e. City wasn't much better and Sunderland had more possession.
Sunderland is not doing badly, especially compared to their last two seasons in the premiership.
They are on a stretch now where they are playing better but not getting the breaks yet. Despite that they still not in the drop zone.
Most importantly they are in every game and are competitive. When they get the injured legs back and maybe make a January purchase they will push on in the new year, just as they did last year.
Patience.
Patience is fuh doctor ::)
No but seriously ,come January Keane have to spend more money, he needs creativity in de midfield and cannot depend on Carlos or Richardson alone. Sunderland need 2 more man in de middle to open up the game,get everybody involved and create for the strikers.Today voom kick ball might have released some ah de pressha, buh not even that they cudda do properly.
Keane say he not selling KJ ,but let dem continue playing dah kinda ah 'league one' football,is straight back down dey heading...anyway yuh look at it KJ will be staying in the prems either with Sunderland or with another team so me eh worried bout KJ .....leh Keane keep on talking dah kinda ah dotishness and see if he cud pay KJ salary in the championship nah....he must sell him then.
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That was the worst display of passing ive ever seen
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TnT could give sunderland 5
Which TNT you tlking about? Will Sunderlnd play with Carlos, Yorke and KJ? Ahh!!!!!! That would make a big difference!
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TnT could give sunderland 5
Which TNT you tlking about? Will Sunderlnd play with Carlos, Yorke and KJ? Ahh!!!!!! That would make a big difference!
Dais de back bone ah Sunderland yuh call dey.
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Man City 1-0 Sunderland
By Charlie Henderson
Manchester City maintained their 100% Premier League home record and climbed to third in the table with a rocket of a volley from Stephen Ireland.
Ireland lit up an otherwise poor match when he made a cracking connection with Darius Vassell's cross from the left.
It was a cruel blow for Sunderland, who played the better for much of the game.
But Danny Collins and Anthony Stokes failed to find the target with flashing first-half headers and Kenwyne Jones could not turn in a left-wing cross.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7065173.stm)
Roy Keane on Sunderland's defeat at City:
We didn't do enough
"I don't think we deserved anything tonight. I've been in football long enough to know that you have to earn the right to get something out of a game.
"One or two balls could have broken for us in the second half but we didn't do enough. There was one bit of quality and the lad [Stephen] Ireland took it nicely.
"We were hoping to cause them one or two more problems, we just didn't do enough. You can't fault the players' battling qualities and spirit but we need a bit more quality.
"I felt there was probably only going to be one goal in it. I knew that City would get one or two chances, the home team normally does and they have quality going forward.
"City will look back and say that we didn't cause them many problems.
"You have to step up and make it happen, that's why we are disappointed. There was an opportunity for us to get something out of the game and we let it pass by.
"Even if we weren't going to win, we should have got something out of it. It would have been great to get a clean sheet. We did OK but that's not enough, we need more. We just need a bit more quality in the attacking third.
"We have to look at ourselves. In the last few weeks there have been opportunities and we have not taken them.
"Their keeper has not had to make many saves and that's disappointing. The hardest place to produce that quality is in the final third - that's why the play-makers and goalscorers cost so much and are hard to get.
"It's disappointing when you feel there is something there to be had. The chances keep slipping us by and we can't keep saying it; the games are going by very quickly, we are putting ourselves under even more pressure."
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Sunderland Reserves 8 Wolviston 0
Carlos Edwards and Andy Cole handed Sunderland a pre-derby boost by playing in their reserves win over Wolviston.
Both were on the scoresheet in the Newton Moor Durham County Challenge Cup rout at the Eppleton CW ground in Hetton.
But more importantly for the Black Cats, they played for an hour as they come back from injury.
Edwards has been sidelined since the opening week of the season with hamstring problems while Cole is yet to feature for Sunderland after hurting his calf in a reserves game shortly afetr joining the club in August.
Both now have an outside chance of featuring in Sunderland's game against Newcastle at the Stadium of Light on Saturday.
Edwards opened the scoring in the 10th minute from close range after Nathan Luscombe's shot was blocked Wolviston keeper Jamie Lawrence who had a good game.
It was 2-0 in the 12th minute. Centre-back Peter Hartley climbed well to plant a header into the roof of the net from Luscombe's corner.
Cole was involved in Sunderland's third in the 18th minute, cushioning a pass to Martyn Waghorn who lifted a shot over the keeper.
In the 20th minute, Waghorn got his second and the Black Cats' fourth, making the most of a mistake by Lawrence to slot a shot into an empty goal.
Edwards should have got a second in the 27th minute, slicing a shot wide after a dummy by Cole, and the right-winger forced Lawrence into action in the 28th minute with a stinging right-foot shot from 25 yards.
Luscombe scored a great goal in the 40th minute, skipping past his marker before firing a thunderous left-foot shot into the roof of the net.
Right on half-time, Lawrence made a good one-handed save to keep out Billy Dennehy's curling free-kick.
Cole made it 6-0 in the 47th minute from 10 yards after being teed up by Edwards. It came after good work down the left by Waghorn.
Lawrence made his second top-class save of the game in the 50th minute, blocking Edwards' shot after a cross by Dennehy.
Gavin Donoghue was the second central defender to get in on the act in the 52nd minute, crashing a right-foot shot into the top corner from 25 yards.
And substitute David Dowson completed the romp late in the game.
Sunderland: Carson, Kay, Donoghue, Hartley, Dennehy, Edwards (Weir 60), Chandler, Colback (Richardson 60), Luscombe, Cole (Dowson 60), Waghorn.
Wolviston: Lawrence, Farrel, Gillespie, Tpotohopolous, Burke, Robinson, Pickover, Paul, French, Foreman, Kilpatrick.
Attendance: 879.
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Carlos: Bring on Newcastle
By: Graeme Anderson (Sunderland Echo).
Carlos Edwards says he is ready to play in Saturday's Wear-Tyne derby – if he gets the nod from boss Roy Keane.
Sunderland's Trinidad and Tobago international winger successfully came through an hour of reserve-team football last night.
And after spending the last week in full training, he reckons he could be back and involved for Sunderland's first team as soon as Saturday.
The former Luton flier, out since mid-August with a troublesome hamstring problem, said: "It was great to get an hour's competitive football under my belt. It felt really good, like I'd never been out.
"I've had no reaction to the injury and hopefully that's the way it will be from now until the end of the season.
"Now I just can't wait to get involved in the first team again.
"I don't know if the Newcastle game will be seen as coming too soon for me.
"But I'm up for selection as far as I'm concerned and it's up to the manager whether or not he wants to include me in the squad.
"If I am selected, I feel I am capable of doing a job and I will go out there and give it 100 per cent of effort.
"I think there's no doubt that I do need two or three games before I'm fully match-fit again.
"But I do feel I could contribute this weekend if needed and it is a game I would love to be involved in.
"If not, then I will just accept that decision and wait for the chance to be involved in the fixture second time around."
As well as setting up a goal last night, Edwards also scored the opener in the 8-0 thrashing of Wearside League Wolviston – a game which also featured the return of Andy Cole, the veteran striker also getting on the scoresheet and getting an hour under his belt with no ill-effects.
Edwards felt the run-out was just what he needed at this stage of his comeback.
He said: "I enjoyed the game.
"No disrespect to Wolviston, I thought it might have been a more intense game and that would have given the injury more of a test.
"But I've had no bad reaction from the game and I don't expect any either.
"I have trained far longer in traning sessions than I played last night – and rather than do me any harm, I think the game will have done me the world of good.
"Fair do's to the physios, they have played their part in getting me right and here I am back in full training and ready to play.
"It was intensive treatment, trying to get me back to the player I was and they have done a good job getting me playing again the way I am now.
"I've missed my football – it seems like I've been out forever. You always want to play football, but injuries do happen and it was just sad that it happened to me so early in the season.
"I'm just hoping that I can get back in the team, stay injury-free and help the team kick-start our season a little."
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Carlos you already make my fantasy team for Saturday. Kenwyne you will now be getting the service you accustomed to so feed off CARLOS and make space for your self when he sending in them cross ball.
WE WINGER COME BACK!
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13550
By Nick Alexander
Carlos Edwards is in contention to make a Premier League comeback in Saturday's North-East derby.
Edwards, who has been out for three months with a hamstring injury, played and scored in an 8-0 victory for the reserves on Tuesday.
Andy Cole, who has not played since August because of a calf problem, also featured in the second-team game in Hetton but the derby is likely to come too soon for him.
Boss Roy Keane said: "Carlos and Coley will look to train today and hopefully there will be no reaction. It's nice to see some of the injured lads back - a few weeks ago we were dragging players in from the street to train.
"Will they be right for Saturday? We'll see. Sometimes when you return from a long injury lay-off you might not see a reaction until a couple of days afterwards.
"Carlos is a fit lad but the game the other night would not have been anywhere near the intensity of a Premier League match, never mind a derby match. There's a question mark.
"If they train well over the next two days they have a chance; obviously they will come into the mindset, we've missed Carlos' pace and Coley's experience could be vital.
"It's highly unlikely that they will start the game but even if there are doubts, just for them be in the squad would be nice.
"I'll go with the gut feeling. It's an important match for the club and if I think they are fit then we'll go for it."
Sunderland have a two-week break from Premier League action after Saturday's game as the next round of international matches comes around.
Keane added: "At the back of your mind you've got to appreciate that there's a break coming up. The last thing we want is to rush Carlos for a few days and to lose him for a lot longer. You could say that happened four or five weeks ago."
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Carlos starting (knock on wood)
Sunderland:
______________Gordon______________
McShane, Nosworthy, Higginbotham, Harte,
Edwards, Leadbitter, Etuhu, Wallace,
____________Jones, Chopra__________
. Subs: Ward, Stokes, Miller, Collins, Connolly.
Newcastle:
------------------Harper------------------
Rozehnal, Faye, Taylor, Belozoglu
Milner, Barton, Smith, N'Zogbia
-------------Owen, Viduka-------------
Subs: Enqique, Martins, Geremi, Beye, Forster.
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Carlos will come on in the 50th
audio feed please?
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Carlos will come on in the 50th
audio feed please?
no need CNC 3 is bringing it
:beermug: :beermug:
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Carlos will come on in the 50th
audio feed please?
no need CNC 3 is bringing it
:beermug: :beermug:
yuh lie, i doubt they go get it
but i still praying :praying: :praying:
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Carlos Edwards starting!
No Yorke.
Viduka back for 'castle.
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Carlos will come on in the 50th
audio feed please?
is every weekend yuh does ask the same question so ?
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=
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Taken from BBC match day text commnetary:
1240: I won't lie to you, the atmosphere at the Stadium of Light is abso-blooming-lutely electric. Carlos Edwards's name is greeted by ferocious cheers by the home faithful - how the zippy Jamaican winger has been missed by Sunderland - and it's fair to say the 'banter' between the supporters is warming up rather nicely.
Steups :cursing:
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steupssssssss
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Like somebody buss some cuss in Ms Cheese behind...They change it fast fast fast :devil:
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Like somebody buss some cuss in Ms Cheese behind...They change it fast fast fast :devil:
yeah it look so ;D
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sunderland blighted with injuries boy
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1240: I won't lie to you, the atmosphere at the Stadium of Light is abso-blooming-lutely electric. Carlos Edwards's name is greeted by ferocious cheers by the home faithful - how the zippy Jamaican winger has been missed by Sunderland - and it's fair to say
They fixed it now on the bbc site... :beermug:
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This game is f**king exciting, I'm just waiting for something to happen. *turns off computer*
:rotfl: @ Zippy Jamaican winger. sometimes I think they does them things toget on people nerves :rotfl:
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:beermug: Game getting better, and Sunderland starting to look better going forward...VERY open match for a derby... :beermug:
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carlos needs 2 wuk on he delivery still though
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:beermug: I agree, but it could be a lack of match fitness too... :beermug:
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:beermug: I agree, but it could be a lack of match fitness too... :beermug:
he never was consistently good at doing that
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buh wait nah 2 day is battle ah d backflips
jones vs martins
ah find when Danny Higginbotham score..they must just say danny score
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goal sunderland
higgingbotham
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GOAL!!! Kenwyne with a quick corner set it up......goal had been coming for a while....
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLL
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goaLLLLLL.
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Higgingbotham scored! The play came from a quick restart from Jones on the left corner.
Sunderland 1 - Newcastle 0
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dis man ian harte playing right back selling real guns.... a real weakness
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OK KENWYNE YOUR TURN NOW AND THEN I WANT CARLOS TO PUT THE NAILS IN THE COFFIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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missing Yorke in the midfield
plenty breakaway plays and when they reach in the final 3rd of the field is like the loss
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Damn, ah next lucky goal against Sunderland
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Milner equalizer....flukesie.... >:(
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Milner now score for Newcaslte from the most obscure of angles
1-1
and 30 secs later Jones miss a sitter
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JAH NEWCASTLE SCORE MILNER. COME ON KENWYNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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O Kenwyne shoulda do better with that man .
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flow of game change
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Imagine you is a youth watching Sunderland or Newcastle, supporting them, growing up with them. What kind a player would you develop into? The game full of passion, committment, blood and guts, but no real football being player. No sparkle of imagination, invention, craft from an individual stand point and as a team no real passing and movement. Its mistake football.
Now you see why English players are the way they are.
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Imagine you is a youth watching Sunderland or Newcastle, supporting them, growing up with them. What kind a player would you develop into? The game full of passion, committment, blood and guts, but no real football being player. No sparkle of imagination, invention, craft from an individual stand point and as a team no real passing and movement. Its mistake football.
Now you see why English players are the way they are.
would that not be because the two teams are evenly matched in this game?
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i hear yuh oint but.......is not like any football fan only watch their team play and not any other game or league
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Imagine you is a youth watching Sunderland or Newcastle, supporting them, growing up with them. What kind a player would you develop into? The game full of passion, committment, blood and guts, but no real football being player. No sparkle of imagination, invention, craft from an individual stand point and as a team no real passing and movement. Its mistake football.
Now you see why English players are the way they are.
You may be right, and certainly English football isn't as technical or spectacular as that of other nations. But let me ask you this. Wouldn't you love to be part of that crowd today. Just imagine how exciting the ProLeague would be if you could generate that passion.
This game is for the people, the true supporters. Youjust have to be there amongst it as a 20 year fan to really understand the meaning of a British derby.
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"It is more than 27 years since Sunderland enjoyed a home
derby win over Newcastle, and more than 40 years since
they beat the Magpies at home in a top-flight
match."
http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13574&fixture=2847627&t=3
first point against the Toons in ages
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
we have to crawl before we can Run ;)
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1-1 FT
A fair result given Newcastle's spirit in the 2nd half...damn lucky goal though :beermug:
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Imagine you is a youth watching Sunderland or Newcastle, supporting them, growing up with them. What kind a player would you develop into? The game full of passion, committment, blood and guts, but no real football being player. No sparkle of imagination, invention, craft from an individual stand point and as a team no real passing and movement. Its mistake football.
Now you see why English players are the way they are.
for real
real pace and real boom-kick football
no real technical ability
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(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44231000/jpg/_44231317_barton203.jpg)
Newcastle's Joey Barton clashes with Sunderland's Dickson Etuhu ;D
Etuhu givin him ah Scottish kiss :D :D
"The first half ended in acrimony when, predictably, Newcastle's Joey Barton was involved in angry exchanges with Sunderland's players after raising his foot dangerously in a challenge with Dickson Etuhu."
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44231000/jpg/_44231287_jones_ap.jpg)
Jones fires in a shot as Sunderland enjoy the better of the goalless opening 45 minutes at the Stadium of Light
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44231000/jpg/_44231286_jones_getty.jpg)
Sunderland 1-1 Newcastle: Kenwyne Jones launches a Sunderland attack during an terrific opening to the match
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/7088593.stm
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Good game... Sunderland deserved to get 3 points but i think they will take the point...
Carlos was rusty as expected and looked cautious... Jones was decent.. very strong and had the defenders wary the entire time... He still needs to improve on his overall game but he is in the right place..
Sportsmax cut de game in de 89'.... i get so flikin mad eh... i rush online open meh sopcast and watch d last couple of minutes
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Imagine you is a youth watching Sunderland or Newcastle, supporting them, growing up with them. What kind a player would you develop into? The game full of passion, committment, blood and guts, but no real football being player. No sparkle of imagination, invention, craft from an individual stand point and as a team no real passing and movement. Its mistake football.
Now you see why English players are the way they are.
You may be right, and certainly English football isn't as technical or spectacular as that of other nations. But let me ask you this. Wouldn't you love to be part of that crowd today. Just imagine how exciting the ProLeague would be if you could generate that passion.
This game is for the people, the true supporters. Youjust have to be there amongst it as a 20 year fan to really understand the meaning of a British derby.
My friend I have no doubt, but derby football is not exclusive to the British. Al Zamelek vs Al Ahly in Egypt, Boca vs River in Argentina and Galatasaray vs Ferenbache are all clashes that I have witnessed live. So I am aware of what club football means to supporters. However, what I am talking about has nothing to do with
the passion of the respective team's supporters.
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"Now left needing Boro and Spurs to win tonight for us. to benefit at all from tonight's point." So wish them luck .
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Imagine you is a youth watching Sunderland or Newcastle, supporting them, growing up with them. What kind a player would you develop into? The game full of passion, committment, blood and guts, but no real football being player. No sparkle of imagination, invention, craft from an individual stand point and as a team no real passing and movement. Its mistake football.
Now you see why English players are the way they are.
You may be right, and certainly English football isn't as technical or spectacular as that of other nations. But let me ask you this. Wouldn't you love to be part of that crowd today. Just imagine how exciting the ProLeague would be if you could generate that passion.
This game is for the people, the true supporters. Youjust have to be there amongst it as a 20 year fan to really understand the meaning of a British derby.
These are two very good prospectives from which we can look at a game,we have people here that are supporters of team and those that are actual Coaches,may be it have some that are both,the bottom line is we all benefit in some way or the other from the game,the thing with me is although i have my favourites i love Football and any teams playing the things i enjoy is the quality of the game,a good pass,trap,shot,cross,run etc etc is what excites me.
Any how guys your points/views are in order.
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Yuh know what funny to me?
In general (Sunderland vs Newcastle have more British players on show than most), these are British derby's that are being contested by players that are typically 90% non British.
Is not like these players doh have technical ability. But the pace of the game is such that it makes even good technical players average. Nobody could tell me Emre doh have technical ability. But he was AVERAGE in this game purely because of the PACE.
You look at the game Liverpool vs Arsenal (which of course wasn't a derby) and you draw a contrast. That game was actually FASTER than this one, yet the technical display didn't suffer. It was a testament to players on both sides but especially Arsenal's, that they played the FOOTBALL that they did. Yet people want to blame Wenger for not "developin English players to play like the rest of his team".
To take it a step further, it is heartening to see 2 of our own players able to COPE in such an environment. Look at our best local based players. Think Hardest could last 10 minutes out dey? Marvin Oliver? Kerry Baptiste? Andre Toussaint? EVEN Latas at dis stage of he career and dat eh no sacrilege. But check Stokes. As de commie say, Stokes used to score goals for fun at Falkirk last season. Check him now. Fish outta water. Dis is de kinda step up we players have to make when playing International ball, even though the PACE isn't as fast, the technical side is superior, the fitness level is superior, and the psychological approach is superior.
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"Now left needing Boro and Spurs to win tonight for us. to benefit at all from tonight's point." So wish them luck .
Whoever type that didn't do his maths right. 4 of the 5 teams below them playing each other. No matter who win them games, Sunderland will move down. They have to wish for both games to draw.
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Some dude on the sund forum.
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craig gordon IMO real fackin bad lucky,only one cleansheet thus far, ah wonder what next. hhummm, sunderland kinda remind me of the old T&T with latas, marcel, nakid, s john, elcock,yorke,hislop, talent to burn , out played their opponants most the time , but still fall short of a win, very frustrating. hope they stay up, i like that team.
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Good game... Sunderland deserved to get 3 points but i think they will take the point...
Carlos was rusty as expected and looked cautious... Jones was decent.. very strong and had the defenders wary the entire time... He still needs to improve on his overall game but he is in the right place..
Sportsmax cut de game in de 89'.... i get so flikin mad eh... i rush online open meh sopcast and watch d last couple of minutes
they brought it back in the 91st minute,
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craig gordon IMO real fackin bad lucky,only one cleansheet thus far, ah wonder what next. hhummm, sunderland kinda remind me of the old T&T with latas, marcel, nakid, s john, elcock,yorke,hislop, talent to burn , out played their opponants most the time , but still fall short of a win, very frustrating. hope they stay up, i like that team.
it is amazing the amount of "Lucky" goals that have scored against Sunderland this year so far
If only they can reverse that trend and start gettin a few lucky goals themselves...things will look real good
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i now come home how Carlos look and how much minutes he play, i hear he look rusty ???
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i now come home how Carlos look and how much minutes he play, i hear he look rusty ???
Yea d rustiness was expected, he didnt keep possession muich, plenty long ball which you coud probably put down to his lack of match fitness, but he kept it out there on the wing and maintained the shape and tracked back, even though get beat for the newcastle equalizer.
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kewyne and Carlos just get big up on bcc going on now , say how trinidad and tobago have two quality players and they will take us a long way, he say carlos was superb ;D
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craig gordon IMO real fackin bad lucky,only one cleansheet thus far, ah wonder what next. hhummm, sunderland kinda remind me of the old T&T with latas, marcel, nakid, s john, elcock,yorke,hislop, talent to burn , out played their opponants most the time , but still fall short of a win, very frustrating. hope they stay up, i like that team.
it is amazing the amount of "Lucky" goals that have scored against Sunderland this year so far
If only they can reverse that trend and start gettin a few lucky goals themselves...things will look real good
That was no "lucky goal". That was a quality cross into a very uncomfortable area to defend. He didn't mean to score but it was the kind of cross that routinely produces goals.
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i now come home how Carlos look and how much minutes he play, i hear he look rusty ???
Yea d rustiness was expected, he didnt keep possession muich, plenty long ball which you coud probably put down to his lack of match fitness, but he kept it out there on the wing and maintained the shape and tracked back, even though get beat for the newcastle equalizer.
For someone who comin back after injury, I found Carlos did well. Faded towards the end, played somewhat cautiously, and should have been subbed off. I don't know why Keane kept him on. Especially when in the last game when he got injured, he said that he should have subbed him as he was coming back too early. Keane get lucky there.
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i now come home how Carlos look and how much minutes he play, i hear he look rusty ???
Yea d rustiness was expected, he didnt keep possession muich, plenty long ball which you coud probably put down to his lack of match fitness, but he kept it out there on the wing and maintained the shape and tracked back, even though get beat for the newcastle equalizer.
For someone who comin back after injury, I found Carlos did well. Faded towards the end, played somewhat cautiously, and should have been subbed off. I don't know why Keane kept him on. Especially when in the last game when he got injured, he said that he should have subbed him as he was coming back too early. Keane get lucky there.
Keane playing brave yes
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craig gordon IMO real fackin bad lucky,only one cleansheet thus far, ah wonder what next. hhummm, sunderland kinda remind me of the old T&T with latas, marcel, nakid, s john, elcock,yorke,hislop, talent to burn , out played their opponants most the time , but still fall short of a win, very frustrating. hope they stay up, i like that team.
it is amazing the amount of "Lucky" goals that have scored against Sunderland this year so far
If only they can reverse that trend and start gettin a few lucky goals themselves...things will look real good
That was no "lucky goal". That was a quality cross into a very uncomfortable area to defend. He didn't mean to score but it was the kind of cross that routinely produces goals.
so, how are the two parts that are underlined inexclusive ?
I believe that you are saying what i am saying
all I am saying is that many goals against Sunderland this year seem to me to fall into this catergory, as I totally agree with your last sentence.
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craig gordon IMO real fackin bad lucky,only one cleansheet thus far, ah wonder what next. hhummm, sunderland kinda remind me of the old T&T with latas, marcel, nakid, s john, elcock,yorke,hislop, talent to burn , out played their opponants most the time , but still fall short of a win, very frustrating. hope they stay up, i like that team.
it is amazing the amount of "Lucky" goals that have scored against Sunderland this year so far
If only they can reverse that trend and start gettin a few lucky goals themselves...things will look real good
What about that shot kenwyn put wide, i thought that was a goal for sure, yuh should've seen me jumping out meh seat for nothing, how i wish he did bury that. probably would've been ah candidate for goal of the week. oh well.
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craig gordon IMO real fackin bad lucky,only one cleansheet thus far, ah wonder what next. hhummm, sunderland kinda remind me of the old T&T with latas, marcel, nakid, s john, elcock,yorke,hislop, talent to burn , out played their opponants most the time , but still fall short of a win, very frustrating. hope they stay up, i like that team.
it is amazing the amount of "Lucky" goals that have scored against Sunderland this year so far
If only they can reverse that trend and start gettin a few lucky goals themselves...things will look real good
That was no "lucky goal". That was a quality cross into a very uncomfortable area to defend. He didn't mean to score but it was the kind of cross that routinely produces goals.
so, how are the two parts that are underlined inexclusive ?
I believe that you are saying what i am saying
all I am saying is that many goals against Sunderland this year seem to me to fall into this catergory, as I totally agree with your last sentence.
You not understandinwhat I sayin. A ball like that more often than not produces goals. Therefore to me, it cyah be deemed "lucky".
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craig gordon IMO real fackin bad lucky,only one cleansheet thus far, ah wonder what next. hhummm, sunderland kinda remind me of the old T&T with latas, marcel, nakid, s john, elcock,yorke,hislop, talent to burn , out played their opponants most the time , but still fall short of a win, very frustrating. hope they stay up, i like that team.
it is amazing the amount of "Lucky" goals that have scored against Sunderland this year so far
If only they can reverse that trend and start gettin a few lucky goals themselves...things will look real good
It was lucky in that it was not the player's intent to score.
I don't think anyone was saying that it was a bad ball. Yes it was into a dangerous area but it still was lucky.
That was no "lucky goal". That was a quality cross into a very uncomfortable area to defend. He didn't mean to score but it was the kind of cross that routinely produces goals.
so, how are the two parts that are underlined inexclusive ?
I believe that you are saying what i am saying
all I am saying is that many goals against Sunderland this year seem to me to fall into this catergory, as I totally agree with your last sentence.
You not understandinwhat I sayin. A ball like that more often than not produces goals. Therefore to me, it cyah be deemed "lucky".
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i now come home how Carlos look and how much minutes he play, i hear he look rusty ???
Yea d rustiness was expected, he didnt keep possession muich, plenty long ball which you coud probably put down to his lack of match fitness, but he kept it out there on the wing and maintained the shape and tracked back, even though get beat for the newcastle equalizer.
For someone who comin back after injury, I found Carlos did well. Faded towards the end, played somewhat cautiously, and should have been subbed off. I don't know why Keane kept him on. Especially when in the last game when he got injured, he said that he should have subbed him as he was coming back too early. Keane get lucky there.
How to use subs is a real learning experience & it takes experience & timing. Fergie is the master at it, while many will claim its Wenger's weakness. Keane will have to learn this as he gains more of a feel for his team and experience.
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craig gordon IMO real fackin bad lucky,only one cleansheet thus far, ah wonder what next. hhummm, sunderland kinda remind me of the old T&T with latas, marcel, nakid, s john, elcock,yorke,hislop, talent to burn , out played their opponants most the time , but still fall short of a win, very frustrating. hope they stay up, i like that team.
it is amazing the amount of "Lucky" goals that have scored against Sunderland this year so far
If only they can reverse that trend and start gettin a few lucky goals themselves...things will look real good
That was no "lucky goal". That was a quality cross into a very uncomfortable area to defend. He didn't mean to score but it was the kind of cross that routinely produces goals.
so, how are the two parts that are underlined inexclusive ?
I believe that you are saying what i am saying
all I am saying is that many goals against Sunderland this year seem to me to fall into this catergory, as I totally agree with your last sentence.
You not understandinwhat I sayin. A ball like that more often than not produces goals. Therefore to me, it cyah be deemed "lucky".
It was lucky in that it was not the player's intent to score.
I don't think anyone was saying that it was a bad ball.
Yes it was into a dangerous area but it still was lucky.
my point Ed Zachery ;)
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Ey ah glad Sunderland get a point.
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Imagine you is a youth watching Sunderland or Newcastle, supporting them, growing up with them. What kind a player would you develop into? The game full of passion, committment, blood and guts, but no real football being player. No sparkle of imagination, invention, craft from an individual stand point and as a team no real passing and movement. Its mistake football.
Now you see why English players are the way they are.
You find a game involving two of the worst teams in England and using that as a gauge on the quality of the English players?
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my point Ed Zachery ;)
I think that a difference can be found between an inadvertent goal...and a lucky goal, irrespective of where you'd qualify this one.
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Imagine you is a youth watching Sunderland or Newcastle, supporting them, growing up with them. What kind a player would you develop into? The game full of passion, committment, blood and guts, but no real football being player. No sparkle of imagination, invention, craft from an individual stand point and as a team no real passing and movement. Its mistake football.
Now you see why English players are the way they are.
You find a game involving two of the worst teams in England and using that as a gauge on the quality of the English players?
Newcastle is one of the biggest clubs in England and beside that, I am not using it as a guage to anything. I am simply stating that the game lacked qualities and how it may have an effect on a young player watching. I also watched Arsenal de sarandi and Rosario Central (13th place versus last place in Argentina) yet their were technical qualiries that made one sit up and notice and the teams displayed qualities that even if you supported the last place team, their were qualities displayed that would aid any young player.
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Newcastle is one of the biggest clubs in England and beside that, I am not using it as a guage to anything. I am simply stating that the game lacked qualities and how it may have an effect on a young player watching. I also watched Arsenal de sarandi and Rosario Central (13th place versus last place in Argentina) yet their were technical qualiries that made one sit up and notice and the teams displayed qualities that even if you supported the last place team, their were qualities displayed that would aid any young player.
Whatever the reputation of Newcastle United, none of that matters this season as they have been middling at best, Sunderland is just horrible...you'd be hard-pressed to find a worst showcase of English football. What you're saying would make sense if English football is all the English yutes have to look at, but they can be inspired by watching non-English football/footballers on TV. They can also be inspired by watching many non-English players elsewhere throughout the EPL...unless it's your argument that only English footballers can inspire English yutes players?
Whateverthe dearth of quality yute footballers you think the English suffer from (the merits of that argument aside).. it hardly can be blamed on the lack of stylistic qualities to be found in teams like Newcastle and Sunderland.
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Imagine you is a youth watching Sunderland or Newcastle, supporting them, growing up with them. What kind a player would you develop into? The game full of passion, committment, blood and guts, but no real football being player. No sparkle of imagination, invention, craft from an individual stand point and as a team no real passing and movement. Its mistake football.
Now you see why English players are the way they are.
You find a game involving two of the worst teams in England and using that as a gauge on the quality of the English players?
Newcastle is one of the biggest clubs in England and beside that, I am not using it as a guage to anything. I am simply stating that the game lacked qualities and how it may have an effect on a young player watching. I also watched Arsenal de sarandi and Rosario Central (13th place versus last place in Argentina) yet their were technical qualiries that made one sit up and notice and the teams displayed qualities that even if you supported the last place team, their were qualities displayed that would aid any young player.
What you're saying would make sense if English football is all the English yutes have to look at, but they can be inspired by watching non-English football/footballers on TV. They can also be inspired by watching many non-English players elsewhere throughout the EPL...unless it's your argument that only English footballers can inspire English yutes players?
Lard! Bake and Shark like yuh in an arguing mood. A young player is highly influenced at an early age by the team he is brought to see on a regular basis. It may be Barnsley or Scruntorp and young players always develop their favourites. Zidane for example was influenced by Franciscoli and not Platini because that is who he went to watch. Obviously youths will also be influenced by other players but the strong attraction and support for a local club & its players runs deep, with heavy influence from ones father and whom he supports. This is especially true in England.
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Lard! Bake and Shark like yuh in an arguing mood.
I retract my statements, you're absolutely right.
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2 questions .
1. Didn't Sunderland look like a championship level team for a big part of the 2nd half especially when they reach on top the opposition box ah mean goal area ?
2. When Sunderland sell Kenwynne and Carlos at the end of this season or before , it go still have a thread like this. ?
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i now come home how Carlos look and how much minutes he play, i hear he look rusty ???
Yea d rustiness was expected, he didnt keep possession muich, plenty long ball which you coud probably put down to his lack of match fitness, but he kept it out there on the wing and maintained the shape and tracked back, even though get beat for the newcastle equalizer.
For someone who comin back after injury, I found Carlos did well. Faded towards the end, played somewhat cautiously, and should have been subbed off. I don't know why Keane kept him on. Especially when in the last game when he got injured, he said that he should have subbed him as he was coming back too early. Keane get lucky there.
How to use subs is a real learning experience & it takes experience & timing. Fergie is the master at it, while many will claim its Wenger's weakness. Keane will have to learn this as he gains more of a feel for his team and experience.
Doh leave out Jose......he is a master at using his subs.........on another note, I don't know if anybody brought it up yet since I haven't read all the posts in the thread nor have I had the time to see more than highlights these days, but, I see Joey Barton was at his psychopathic nonsense again with a nasty tackle on a Sunderland player.......was he punished for that? I wish it had more men in the league that would deal with this idiot and end his career for him.
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FA to scrutinise Barton challenge
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7089442.stm
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44232000/jpg/_44232116_barton_getty_203.jpg)
Joey Barton and Dickson Etuhu
The Football Association will look into Joey Barton's controversial challenge on Dickson Etuhu during Saturday's 1-1 draw at Sunderland.
The Newcastle midfielder went into the tackle with his studs high and clashed with Etuhu in the aftermath.
No foul was awarded by match referee Martin Atkinson.
An FA spokesman said: "We will be looking to clarify with the referee whether he saw the incident or not. If not, we will review the incident."
The FA can issue a violent conduct charge retrospectively in instances where the match official does not notice the incident but later highlights it in his report.
Barton could be subject to a three-game ban.
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2. When Sunderland sell Kenwynne and Carlos at the end of this season or before , it go still have a thread like this. ?
Hear de deal pardnah. Seeing that I am the one that start the thread let me answer you right away.
Morvant is the first one that come with that stupidness, but like yuh didn't ketch the first thread.
When small mag does make ah thread for every Man U match and others for other spanish teams I won't name and the thread have a grand total of 5 responses, no body doh ketch ah how.
A big clash where vital points in play or a cup final/semi final is something else. Personally I doh believe in making thread for every match ah team play no matter how much yuh support it, but that is jut me.
Is another thing altogether when you keeping a eye on yuh NT boys, expecially with WCQ coming up.
Until such time that another team concentrates such a vital proportion of our NT talent at a similar level the other teams (WHICH I HAVE NO REAL REASON TO SUPPORT UNLESS I BET ON THEM) will scratch. Keep quiet and let men enjoy the ride nah...
Also....If they DO sell BOTH Carlos and KJ by the end of the season, (which I somehow have a hard time believing) tough, but what's to say they won't buy two other trinis 8)
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my point Ed Zachery ;)
I think that a difference can be found between an inadvertent goal...and a lucky goal, irrespective of where you'd qualify this one.
yes yes yes
I know that the ultimate reason of playing in a Football Match is to put the ball across the line behind the oppositon's goaltender.
so if the ball happens to go into the net after hitting the back of a players head and floats over the goaltender into the far corner of the goal, well i would not turn it down if is was my team that benefitted from that "Lucky,inadvertent,careless, chance, feckless, heedless, irreflective, negligent, reckless, thoughtless, uncaring, unconcerned, undesigned, undevised, unheeding, unintended, unintentional, unmindful, unplanned, unpremeditated, unthinking, unthought, unwitting" goal. ;) ;)
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2. When Sunderland sell Kenwynne and Carlos at the end of this season or before , it go still have a thread like this. ?
Hear de deal pardnah. Seeing that I am the one that start the thread let me answer you right away.
Morvant is the first one that come with that stupidness, but like yuh didn't ketch the first thread.
When small mag does make ah thread for every Man U match and others for other spanish teams I won't name and the thread have a grand total of 5 responses, no body doh ketch ah how.
A big clash where vital points in play or a cup final/semi final is something else. Personally I doh believe in making thread for every match ah team play no matter how much yuh support it, but that is jut me.
Is another thing altogether when you keeping a eye on yuh NT boys, expecially with WCQ coming up.
Until such time that another team concentrates such a vital proportion of our NT talent at a similar level the other teams (WHICH I HAVE NO REAL REASON TO SUPPORT UNLESS I BET ON THEM) will scratch. Keep quiet and let men enjoy the ride nah...
Also....If they DO sell BOTH Carlos and KJ by the end of the season, (which I somehow have a hard time believing) tough, but what's to say they won't buy two other trinis 8)
Correct amundo!!!!!!!
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Just a little something I was reading that I thought might be interesting to share with the the KJ fans on this forum.
KENWYNE Jones has gone from schoolboy superstar to Premier League sensation in just five years.
Sunderland’s £6m striker lines up against Newcastle today as one of the Premier League’s in-form strikers with four goals in eight games.
But that is nothing compared to the records he used to set as a teen wonder in his Trinidad & Tobago homeland.
Jones, who has been linked with a big-money move to Liverpool, dominated his youth league like no one before or since.
And one former colleague claims he could be about to do the same thing in England.
Thaine Pierre, who used to play against Jones in Trinidad, said: “It’s hard to compare then and now, but he could end up being that dominant again.
“It was easy for him at school because he was a class act. Now he’s playing with the cream of the crop.
“I think he’s going to be a great player. He never gets nervous and that’s why he’s been able to make such an impact in the Premier League.”
Jones, now 23, made his name as a boyhood star with his school team, St Anthony’s College, finishing the league’s top scorer one year and winning the player of the year honours twice.
Pierre – now a forensic science student in London – played against him as a 17-year-old and insists it was obvious he would go on to be a big star.
He said: “When he signed his first contract in the Premier League we knew he was going to be the next Dwight Yorke – who is still the biggest footballer to come out of Trinidad.”
Jones had trials with Manchester United, Middlesbrough and West Ham before signing for Southampton in 2004.
But his move to Sunderland only went through after a dramatic last-ditch intervention – by a Newcastle old boy!
Jones had not played enough matches for his national team to qualify for a work permit after being blacklisted in a row over bonus payments.
But the Trinidad & Tobago FA refused to write to the Home Office explaining the situation. So it was left to players union president and former Toon keeper Shaka Hislop to write in support of his 2006 World Cup team-mate.
Jones got his permit two days before the transfer window closed – but no one in the away end at the Stadium of Light will be thanking Hislop if he scores again today.
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you gotta post where the article is from, giggsy
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you gotta post where the article is from, giggsy
Took it from The Star newspaper. You can find in on Yahoo United Kingdom Newspapers.
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you gotta post where the article is from, giggsy
Took it from The Star newspaper. You can find in on Yahoo United Kingdom Newspapers.
Check that I meant, The Daily Star.
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does anyone have a link to game highlights?
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With totenham winning today taking sulun down to 16th, weh yuh say relegation boys.
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Just a little something I was reading that I thought might be interesting to share with the the KJ fans on this forum.
KENWYNE Jones has gone from schoolboy superstar to Premier League sensation in just five years.
Sunderland’s £6m striker lines up against Newcastle today as one of the Premier League’s in-form strikers with four goals in eight games.
But that is nothing compared to the records he used to set as a teen wonder in his Trinidad & Tobago homeland.
Jones, who has been linked with a big-money move to Liverpool, dominated his youth league like no one before or since.
And one former colleague claims he could be about to do the same thing in England.
Thaine Pierre, who used to play against Jones in Trinidad, said: “It’s hard to compare then and now, but he could end up being that dominant again.
“It was easy for him at school because he was a class act. Now he’s playing with the cream of the crop.
“I think he’s going to be a great player. He never gets nervous and that’s why he’s been able to make such an impact in the Premier League.”
Jones, now 23, made his name as a boyhood star with his school team, St Anthony’s College, finishing the league’s top scorer one year and winning the player of the year honours twice.
Pierre – now a forensic science student in London – played against him as a 17-year-old and insists it was obvious he would go on to be a big star.
He said: “When he signed his first contract in the Premier League we knew he was going to be the next Dwight Yorke – who is still the biggest footballer to come out of Trinidad.”
Jones had trials with Manchester United, Middlesbrough and West Ham before signing for Southampton in 2004.
But his move to Sunderland only went through after a dramatic last-ditch intervention – by a Newcastle old boy!
Jones had not played enough matches for his national team to qualify for a work permit after being blacklisted in a row over bonus payments.
But the Trinidad & Tobago FA refused to write to the Home Office explaining the situation. So it was left to players union president and former Toon keeper Shaka Hislop to write in support of his 2006 World Cup team-mate.
Jones got his permit two days before the transfer window closed – but no one in the away end at the Stadium of Light will be thanking Hislop if he scores again today.
wait nuh, since when we boy thane turn pundit ???
thane, how yuh get big interview and ting in daily star boy?
yuh sure is not centrefold yuh went to vibes dem on and dey ask since uz a trini, if yuh know kenwyne? ;D
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wait nuh, since when we boy thane turn pundit ???
thane, how yuh get big interview and ting in daily star boy?
yuh sure is not centrefold yuh went to vibes dem on and dey ask since uz a trini, if yuh know kenwyne? ;D
I was wondering if it was the same Thane that posts here.
Big up.
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Thane getting quoted ?
ha ha I going to call him now !
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With totenham winning today taking sulun down to 16th, weh yuh say relegation boys.
doh rush the brush nah. if reading lose like they suppose to against arsenal today, you have 3 points separating the 17th placed team (Middlesborough) and the 12th placed team (Reading). None ah them teams ent safe, and we not even counting the 3 teams that ent even get to double figures in points yet (Derby, Wigan and Bolton)
We know for sure Derby going down unless abrahamovich buy them for christmas so that is one stop already taken. Doh rush the brush... It go be a dogfight for Sunderland thats for sure but they not alone
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All this talk about luck, the truth is Sunderland need two quality center backs and a proven attacking center midfielder to create more chances for KJ and others. Right now the chances are few and far between and he is going from 4 in 6, to now 4 in 8 and soon it maybe 4 in 12 an so and so on??
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With totenham winning today taking sulun down to 16th, weh yuh say relegation boys.
doh rush the brush nah. if reading lose like they suppose to against arsenal today, you have 3 points separating the 17th placed team (Middlesborough) and the 12th placed team (Reading). None ah them teams ent safe, and we not even counting the 3 teams that ent even get to double figures in points yet (Derby, Wigan and Bolton)
We know for sure Derby going down unless abrahamovich buy them for christmas so that is one stop already taken. Doh rush the brush... It go be a dogfight for Sunderland thats for sure but they not alone
I hope they stay up, it's a team i like, plus our boys are there.
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All this talk about luck, the truth is Sunderland need two quality center backs and a proven attacking center midfielder to create more chances for KJ and others. Right now the chances are few and far between and he is going from 4 in 6, to now 4 in 8 and soon it maybe 4 in 12 an so and so on??
that team don't need no new set of players especially defenders. they probably need an attacking mid feilder down the middle and a striker who is tested in the prem like defoe or heywood. sunderland was pretty much a contender in all their matches, save wigan and liverpool; where they were out played, but no other team out played them as of yet.
sunderland have to learn to make good on their chances, like the commentator said on satuarday , they should've been up by 3 goals before the half.
ledbitter wasted a few chances in the last three games, so did chopra and wallace, them boy just can't finish. sunlun also have a serious communication problem, the dafenders don't communicate with the keeper that's why they concede in every game since after the opener.
the midfeild and the strikers don't get together in the final 3rd hence no penitration of the defence, most of sunlun goals were from crosses down the flank, but no down the middle penetration. so all a thinking manager has to do is close down the flanks and they would never score.
PS, that defence IMO real solid except the left flank where halford and harte suck at it, both in skill and speed, both of them to slow for that position.
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Sunderland 1-1 Newcastle
By Phil McNulty
James Milner's fortunate equaliser earned Newcastle a point against Sunderland at the Stadium of Light.
The hosts looked on course for victory after dominating the first half and going ahead after 47 minutes through Danny Higginbotham's header.
But Newcastle responded well and levelled after 64 minutes when Milner's speculative cross deceived keeper Craig Gordon and went in off the far post.
Sunderland almost snatched a win when Michael Chopra headed against the bar.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7076643.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13576
Keane disappointed with derby outcome
Roy Keane's reaction to the derby draw:
"We're disappointed. We created chances and we played well but if you keep missing them it is very hard to win any game
"I'm pleased with the players and the spirit they showed. The priority for any derby match is that you don't lose and we didn't do that so we take the pluses.
"We could have defended better as a team for their goal. Was it a cross or a shot? I don't know. But there's no need to be pointing the finger at anyone.
"The fact that we missed some decent chances was more disappointing. We should have tested the keeper a bit more.
"Derby matches are always going to be frantic but we got it right in terms of getting the balance. We played with passion and we played some good stuff.
"We picked up an injury after 10 minutes or so and that doesn't help. The big difference to Monday night [at City], when I was disappointed, was that we did create a lot of chances today.
"The atmosphere certainly did not let me down. These games mean so much to Sunderland and Newcastle fans.
"Tackles happen in these games. You give and you take. Players have got to expect a tackle, that's life, that's football.
"Carlos [Edwards] has been training for a couple pf weeks. I spoke to him last night and he felt up for the game. I'm sure he can be a bit sharper but he still gives us that threat and pace and he does get wide, we saw the benefits of that today.
"It was a gamble [playing Edwards] but that's life, you have to take risks from time to time. He seems alright but then Nyron will be out for a while with his hamstring.
"Chopra hit the bar and you are thinking it must fall for one of our lads but it didn't. If we keep persevering and doing the right things, things will fall into place.
"We're in 15th place - that's about the right position for us at the moment."
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13582
Fans vote Jones top player
Kenwyne Jones is the safc.com man-of-the-match from Saturday's game against Newcastle.
Fans voted the striker Sunderland's top player from the Wear-Tyne derby - he got 31% of the votes.
Grant Leadbitter was voted into second place and Danny Higginbotham, Sunderland's goalscorer against the Magpies, third.
safc.com's top three players v Newcastle United (as voted by the fans):
Kenwyne Jones 31%
Grant Leadbitter 19%
Danny Higginbotham 17%
The winner of each man of the match poll gets three points, the runner-up gets two and the third best player gets one.
Here is how the table stands after 13 Premier League games:
Kenwyne Jones 15
Grant Leadbitter 12
Liam Miller 10
Craig Gordon 9
Michael Chopra 9
Paul McShane 6
Danny Higginbotham 5
Nyron Nosworthy 4
Ross Wallace 2
Carlos Edwards 2
Danny Collins 1
Dwight Yorke 1
Greg Halford 1
At the end of the season the points are totted up to reveal our star performer.
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=32069.0)
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13581
Nyron misses out
By Nick Alexander
A hamstring injury will deprive Nyron Nosworthy of his first international cap.
The Sunderland defender was due to play for Jamaica against Guatemala on Sunday but suffered an injury early in the Black Cats' game against Newcastle on Saturday.
It is the second time the Black Cats centre-back has been denied his first cap. Last month, Nosworthy was all set to play for Jamaica against Ghana in London before the game was cancelled at the 11th hour.
Roy Keane said: "Nyron's injury is a hamstring but we won't know how bad it is until the medical results come back.
"It's a blow to us because just as we're celebrating Carlos Edwards' return from injury, Nyron goes and injures himself - one in, one out."
Meanwhile, Jamaica last week sacked their coach Bora Milutinovic who was just one year into his four-year contract.
Milutinovic is the only person to have coached five different teams to the World Cup finals - Mexico, Costa Rica, the United States, Nigeria and China.
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standings before the November International Break
| Position | Team | Played | GD | Pts |
| 11 | Newcastle | 12 | 1 | 18 |
| 12 | Reading | 13 | -13 | 13 |
| 13 | Fulham | 13 | -4 | 12 |
| 14 | Tottenham | 13 | -1 | 11 |
| 15 | Birmingham | 13 | -7 | 11 |
| 16 | Sunderland | 13 | -9 | 10 |
| 17 | Middlesborough | 13 | -11 | 10 |
| 18 | Bolton | 13 | -7 | 8 |
| 19 | Wigan | 13 | -13 | 8 |
| 20 | Derby | 13 | -26 | 6 |
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Goal of the month: October (http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13587)
Kenwyne Jones' goal against West Ham was chosen by fans as Sunderland's top goal for October.
In a vote here on safc.com, Jones' header at Upton Park - the big striker rose head and shoulders above the goalmouth crowd to nod home Grant Leadbitter's corner - came out on top.
Jones' header at Arsenal came second and Ross Wallace's goal in the same game was third.
Nosworthy hamstring injury 'bad' (http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13594)
By Nick Alexander
Nyron Nosworthy will be sidelined for up to six weeks after tearing his hamstring against Newcastle on Saturday.
Nosworthy pulled up midway through the first half in the 1-1 draw at the Stadium of Light.
Roy Keane today confirmed: "It's a bad one and he will be out for between four and six weeks, it's particularly bad news for us.
"When he went off I thought it was fairly serious. He's a tough lad, it takes a lot for him to come off."
Nosworthy will also miss out on his first international cap, for Jamaica.
The former Gillingham defender will hope to return for games over the Christmas period.
Etuhu faces long absence (http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13625)
Sunderland could lose Dickson Etuhu for up to six weeks early next year as Nigeria coach Berti Vogts insisted that all members of his squad must attend a pre-African Cup of Nations training camp.
The tournament proper starts on January 20 and ends on February 10 and Vogts wants his players to report for duty on January 4.
It means Etuhu, the Black Cats midfielder, could miss five Premier League games and two matches in the FA Cup.
Vogts said: "That is the way things have to be and there will be no exceptions. There will be a two-week training camp and all the players will be there. They will not be allowed to arrive later."
Injury problems ease for Keane (http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13648)
Roy Keane faces a selection headache for different reasons when Sunderland go to Everton on Saturday.
Dean Whitehead, Andy Cole, Dwight Yorke, Carlos Edwards, Micheal Chopra and Ian Harte are all fit for the game at Goodison Park.
Only Nyron Nosworthy (hamstring), Kieran Richardson (back) and Russell Anderson (ankle) remain in the treatment room.
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Everton 7-1 Sunderland
By Phil McNulty
Everton delivered a dazzling attacking exhibition to destroy Sunderland.
Yakubu's early strike and Tim Cahill's shot on the turn put Everton in charge. Steven Pienaar fired home a brilliant third before Sunderland's Dwight Yorke scored on the stroke of half-time.
Cahill slid home another composed finish after the break before Yakubu pounced from a corner to make it five.
Substitute Andrew Johnson raced through to make it six before Leon Osman's late solo effort rounded off the scoring.
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By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane has shouldered the blame for Sunderland's 7-1 defeat at Everton on Saturday, saying: "I picked the wrong team."
Keane, the manager, is taking full responsibility after the Black Cats capitulated at Goodison Park.
Sunderland return to Premier League action against bottom club Derby at the Stadium of Light on Saturday and Keane said: "I wish we had a game before Saturday but we just have to wait - hopefully we will take out our frustrations on Derby.
"It was a difficult weekend for me. I'm disappointed because performances over the last few weeks have not been too bad. To defend as poorly as we did was a major blow and we've got to react in a positive way.
"In defence of the players, I picked the wrong team. Even at four and five-one down, we were attacking and we left ourselves wide open and I have to take full responsibility, that's what being a manager is about.
"It was a difficult game for the lads coming back [from injury] and that's where I probably called it wrong. I played Dwight [Yorke] in the middle of the park with Dickson [Etuhu].
"Dickson was on the back of two tough international matches and Dwight had been out for a month or more so there's no doubt that I got the team selection wrong.
"We changed it at half-time but even then we still encouraged the players to get forward, that's the way I like to play but you cannot do it all the time.
"It's a learning curve for me like it is for everyone at the club, but you can't keep losing football matches and so far this season we've lost too many."
Keane admitted that he did not see such a heavy defeat coming. "I expected setbacks but not to that extreme," he said. "I don't know whether it's worse as a player or a manager - it's very different.
"Any bad result is hard to take and everyone reacts in different ways. As a player, you look at your own form.
"In the games we have lost this season we have encouraged the team to go forward, but in the Premier League against a good team like Everton you cannot afford to leave yourself open at the back.
"As bad as we were, Everton took full advantage, we got severely punished. You have got to be solid.
"I've looked at the stats and we had more possession. You could hang your hat on that and say it's not too bad, but ultimately we lost the game 7-1 and that is nowhere near good enough for Sunderland Football Club."
Keane is confident the Black Cats can bounce back with a victory over Derby. He said: "The players have a spirit and desire, they want to do well. I expect us to bounce back and it's important we move on quickly."
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Sunderland 1-0 Derby
By Alistair Magowan
Sunderland substitute Anthony Stokes earned his side a priceless victory with a stoppage-time winner against Derby at the Stadium of Light.
Kenwyne Jones's header was saved by Derby keeper Stephen Bywater but the 19-year-old Stokes reacted quickest to bundle home at the second attempt.
Jones hit the post in the first half shortly after Sunderland keeper Darren Ward saved a Kenny Miller shot.
Defeat for new Derby boss Paul Jewell leaves his side bottom of the table.
The victory for Sunderland will do much to help eradicate the memories of their 7-1 mauling at Everton last week.
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Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's win over Derby:
"I'm delighted. There's a good chance I can leave the house tomorrow, I couldn't last week.
"It wasn't as classic. There were one or two turning points in the first half. Wardy made a great save and we cleared one off the line then Kenwyne hit the post.
"I was thinking it had nil-nil written all over it but I have got to give my players credit for the way they bounced back from last week.
"I would also credit the players who came into the team and the subs - we need everyone pulling together.
"We had a bit of luck today but we haven't had too much this season so you have to take it when it comes.
"I'm happy for everyone at the club because it has been a long week for them, there's not getting away from that.
"It's vital when we're playing at home to these teams, that we get something out of the game. We should have beaten Newcastle a few weeks ago but we didn't.
"You can't keep letting these games slip by. There were lots of bonuses today - we kept a clean sheet, the players who came back into the team played well,
Stokes scored, Liam Miller set it up - lads who would have been disappointed to be left out.
[On leaving out Craig Gordon]
"It was a call I've had to make. I've left Dwight Yorke and Dickson Etuhu out as well - they weren't even on the bench today.
"It was a case of trying to freshen things up. I think with the goalkeeper situation, the lad's been under a lot of pressure recently. There has been a lot asked of him.
"He's a young man, we're not expecting miracles. Missing a few games will do him the world of good, mentally more than physically. I wouldn't blame Craig for any of the goals last week [at Everton].
"I'm delighted with Craig but I've got to look at what is best for him long term, he will feel the benefits for it. Of course he was disappointed - any player who is left out it.
"I have to pick the team and it worked today, it didn't work last week. You get some right, you get some wrong.
"To get the win so late in the game is very nice. It was the same against Derby last year. It's hard to get wins in the Premier League and it's important we got another today. And to get a clean sheet is a big bonus.
"It has been a big test for us this week. When you get beaten 7-1 the fans start questioning what's going on, but I thought they [the fans] were fantastic today, they stayed with us.
"There was a bit of tension, as you expect, but they stayed with us. I'm delighted for the fans."
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Keane confirms Edwards injury
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane has confirmed that Carlos Edwards fractured his leg in Sunderland's win over Derby last weekend.
The winger, who has played just five games for the Black Cats this season because of injuries, will be sidelined for around five weeks.
Keane said: "Carlos has a fractured fibula. It's quite stable and it could have been a lot worse, we're looking at maybe four to five weeks.
"As much as we're disappointed with the news, let me tell you it could have been worse, but it's more bad news for Carlos and we wish him well.
"He'll be getting the best of medical attention. We've missed him for most of the season and we'll have to do without him for another month or so.
"It's unfortunate but I think it sometimes happens with players. They can have a run of injuries and it's just unlucky. We have players to come in and take their chance. It's football and it's how you deal with these setbacks."
Dwight Yorke, who did not feature in last weekend's 1-0 win, played in Sunderland's reserves victory over Middlesbrough last night and will be in the squad that travels to London tomorrow.
Keane said: "Carlos apart, there are no fresh injuries from last week and one or two lads will come back into contention. We've got injuries but the squad is not as depleted as it was two or three weeks ago."
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Keane's Chelsea challenge
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane today saluted Chelsea's long unbeaten home record - then told his team to go and end it.
Chelsea have not lost for 70 League games at Stamford Bridge, an incredible run that stretches back to February 2004 when Arsenal won there.
And few will fancy Sunderland to be record breakers tomorrow when they play in London for the third time this season.
But Keane reckons the Black Cats, who have not won away from home this season, will give it a good go.
He said: "You have to give Chelsea credit for their record, it is absolutely fantastic. You saw the game against West Ham [last weekend]. West Ham had a right good go at it but Chelsea still won1-0.
"You need to have a good home record if you are going to get anywhere, but it's a nice challenge for us, to see if we can end that run."
Sunderland's three wins this season have all come at the Stadium of Light and their last game away from home ended in a 7-1 thrashing.
"Our home form has generally been OK, it's the away form that we've got to look at," said Keane.
"We certainly can't defend and give chances away like we did at Everton. Chelsea are a quality team, they have a fantastic squad but it certainly helps going into it on the back of a victory.
"The more games you go without winning, the more pressure builds up, that goes for any team in the Premier League.
"We know we have to be solid and hopefully we can cause them one or two problems.
"We can't play with too much of an open style like we have done away from home this season, it's something we'll look at, we've been working on it in training.
"But even if you go with a careful approach, you still have to try to cause the opposition one or two problems. If you think you can go and defend for 90 minutes, it'll be a long afternoon.
"Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and United - they are in their own league."
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Sunderland & Fulham in for £5m Hammer
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Bobby Zamora is being linked with a January move away from West Ham United. The former Brighton and Tottenham man is not a first-choice at Upton Park but has big fans in Roy Keane and Fulham manager Lawrie Sanchez.
"Roy will have no problem with the money," said Sunderland chairman Niall Quinn of his club's plans for January.
"It's actually down to the availability of the players, that's the big one.
"But certainly, money won't be a factor this Christmas. I'm not saying we have plenty of it, but the money will be made available if the players become available."
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ent some people hope he would play for de Red, White and Black.
Keane brining him into the "Lime" ;D
and by Mr John's performance of late, is he booking his return passage :D :D
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Chelsea 2-0 Sunderland
By Nathan Mercer
Goals from Andriy Shevchenko and Frank Lampard helped Chelsea see off a hard-working Sunderland.
The unmarked Shevchenko stretched to head home Salomon Kalou's cross from close in for Chelsea's first.
The Black Cats worked tirelessly to keep Chelsea at bay in the second half but failed to trouble Carlo Cudicini.
Lampard made the game safe from the spot after Danny Higginbotham had tugged Alex's shirt, before Liam Miller saw red for a push on Claudio Pizarro.
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Roy Keane's reaction on Sunderland's defeat at Chelsea:
There was some good stuff
"The penalty killed the game for us. We were having a decent spell and when it is 1-0 you are always in with a chance, especially with the amount of late goals we've scored.
"Once it's 2-0 with 15 minutes to go, the game is over. When you come to Chelsea, or Liverpool, United and Arsenal for that matter, when there is a coming-together of players in the box like that, there's every chance the referee is going to go towards the home team and we've seen that today.
"I was pleased with the response after half-time, there was a lot of good stuff today.
"The two goals could have been avoided, particularly the first goal. He had far too much room to cross the ball and the lad is four or five yards out to put it in.
"We looked a lot more solid than in our last away game [Everton], but this was always a tough game for us."
[On Liam Miller's sending off]
"There's no doubt that once you raise your hand, there referee has no choice. I've been down that road myself before. I just felt that it could have been avoided.
"Clearly, you are not allowed to tackle the England captain because there was a big issue made of Liam's tackle on him, from himself and Pizarro. It was a foul but that was it.
"It was disappointing because it was a straight red and Liam will miss three games now. I think the referee could have maybe stepped in five seconds earlier because the reaction from Terry and Pizarro disappointed me. It was a foul but there was no nastiness to it.
"We're hopeful that we can add to the squad in January, but January is a long way away yet, there's lots of games to go and lots of points to fight for before then.
"The season has panned out how I thought it would. There are three leagues in the Premier league at the moment. We're certainly not in the top league, we're not in the second league, yet.
"We know where we are and we're in for a tough season. Ther results against the likes of Chelsea won't make or break our season, it's the results against the teams at the bottom.
"As much as there were positives today, I'm not really sure that Chelsea got out of first gear.
"Chelsea had a few missing today but we saw the quality that they can bring in and that's what we dream of at Sunderland, that's our long-term aim."
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http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13801&fixture=2847903&t=1
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane hopes Ross Wallace recovers from an ankle injury ahead of Sunderland's game against Aston Villa tomorrow.
Wallace, a left-sided midfielder, has missed training this week after picking up the injury at Chelsea.
Keane said: "Ross has taken a knock but he should be okay for tomorrow and other than that we've got no injuries from the Chelsea game."
Carlos Edwards, Nyron Nosworthy, Russell Anderson, Stanislav Varga and Kieran Richardson are still ruled out while Liam Miller starts a three-game ban.
Goalkeeper Craig Gordon could regain his place in the Black Cats' side after a two-game absence.
Keane could include some of the club's young players in his squad tomorrow.
Keane watched Sunderland's youth team beat Norwich 6-1 in the FA Youth Cup at the Stadium of Light on Tuesday, when 17-year-old striker Martyn Waghorn scored a hat-trick.
"We're certainly looking at some of the kids, they have impressed me" said the manager.
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piss on Zamora
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Sunderland 1-1 Aston Villa
By Phil Harlow
A fine second-half free-kick from Shaun Maloney denied Sunderland a much-needed win at the Stadium of Light.
Danny Higginbotham met Ross Wallace's corner with a powerful header on 10 minutes to give his side the lead.
Villa enjoyed the lion's share of the ball but could not find a way through until Maloney's 71st-minute free-kick soared into the top corner.
Sunderland thought they had won in injury-time, but Danny Collins's header was ruled out for a foul.
The match was classic end-to-end Premiership fare with a shocking raised-foot tackle from Craig Gardner that caught Dwight Yorke in the stomach setting the tone for a frenetic encounter after two minutes.
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Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's draw with Villa:
"It was a good header and a goal, I don't know why the referee has disallowed it. I don't know what it's for, I'm sure he'll come up with something.
"It's frustrating, I don't think I will cool down until Tuesday or Wednesday.
"The players and supporters deserve better. I always try to be fair to referees but I don't know why he has given the foul. It was a disgrace.
"We have great fans who travel up and down the country in huge numbers and for them to be cheated is really disappointing.
"We're talking about the referee when we should be talking about two good teams who had a good go at each other. It was a good Premier League game.
"He was ready to give the foul even before anyone went near anyone else. Sunderland fans deserve better. It's the most frustrated I've been as a manager.
"He got his big one completely wrong. (Bennett) will be delighted we're chatting about him after the game. That's the impression I got.
"It was a good, honest game. Villa are a good team but we hung in there and defended well against lots and lost of crosses.
"We gave a sloppy goal away. We lost possession softly in the middle of the park and we were punished, as you often are in the Premier League.
"But I always felt that we would nick it at the end and we did.
"I spoke to Mark Hughes five or six weeks ago about referees and I said that I'd been OK with them. He said, 'That'll change'. He was spot on."
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We can't rush Nyron, says Keane
Nyron Nosworthy will have to wait until the New Year to make his Premier League comeback.
Nosworthy has missed four games after tearing his hamstring in Sunderland's 1-1 draw with Newcastle last month.
And while the centre-back is back running, Roy Keane has conceded that the player's return is not imminent.
Keane said: "Nyron is doing a bit of jogging but it was a bad hamstring injury, it was almost a rupture, it was nearly off the bone.
"He's a quick healer and he's been keen to get back but it's a delicate injury. It would be madness to rush him back. He's probably still two weeks away."
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Clarke targets New Year return
By Martin Walker
Clive Clarke is targeting a return to football early in the New Year after recovering from a heart-attack.
The Sunderland defender suffered the huge scare in August while playing for Leicester City against Nottingham Forest in a Carling Cup tie.
Clarke stayed in the Midlands with his wife, Sally, and their 14-month-old daughter, Erin, during the early stages of his recovery, before moving back to their North-East base three weeks ago.
The Irishman wants to thank Sunderland fans for their support after receiving "thousands" of messages following the shocking incident.
Now the 27-year-old, who has watched a number of Sunderland's games recently, says he is looking forward to playing again.
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We're still confident, Wallace
By Nick Alexander
Ross Wallace is still confident that Sunderland will have a decent season despite a tough start to life in the Premier League.
The Black Cats go to Reading on Saturday knowing that another away defeat is likely to result in them dropping back into the relegation zone with nearly half the season gone.
But the young Scot, who has enjoyed a good first season in the top flight of English football, says there is no panic in Roy Keane's squad.
"Everyone is confident that we can win the scrap," he said. "I don't see anyone with their heads down, it's a good bunch of lads and hopefully we can start to get some wins. It's won't be for the lack of trying.
"December and January are hugely important months for us; we need to get some more points on the board. This time of year goes a long way to deciding what you are going to do in the league.
"We have not done it away from home, I don't know why. It could be one of those situations where once we get one win away we could get a few.
"You have to be at your best to get anything in this league. We were outstanding defensively against a good [Aston] Villa side on Saturday and if we can repeat that at Reading, I think we'll have a decent chance of winning."
The Black Cats were denied three points against Villa last weekend when referee Steve Bennett decided to rule out Danny Collins' late header.
Wallace said: "We did feel aggrieved but it's time to move on. I've watched it again and I saw nothing wrong with it. I don't think anyone did, apart from the referee.
"But he's made his decision and it's gone. It's no use crying over spilt milk."
Wallace has also revealed that Sunderland were deeply unhappy with the kung-fu-style tackle by Craig Gardner on Dwight Yorke in the first half of the 1-1 draw.
Yorke needed treatment and the Villa man escaped with a yellow card.
Wallace said: "The tackle on Dwight was shocking. It looked bad at the time but when you saw it on TV afterwards it looked even worse, he should have seen red for that, it was a dangerous tackle.
"Players have been sent off this season for much less than that, you just have to look at Liam Miller at Chelsea."
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Keane: Stand up and be counted
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane has urged his players to show their mettle at Reading tomorrow.
Sunderland kick off a hectic festive schedule at the Madejski Stadium looking to end a run of five successive away defeats.
The Black Cats are one of six Premier League clubs yet to win away from home (Reading are another) and Keane wants his players to up their game away from the Stadium of Light.
He said: "Why are our results so different away from home? That's the 64,000 dollar question, we're talking to the players about it all the time.
"Your home record is always going to be better than your away but there should not be such a vast difference.
"People have looked into it over the years and there are a lot of reasons why people under-perform away from home. We're working on putting it right."
Keane added: "I liked playing away from home - especially at grounds where you were up against the crowd and not just the team, it was a chance to shut people up.
"When you go away you know you will be under the cosh and you need characters.
"I've seen players and come up against players who are very much home players. They are up for it at home and seem to go missing away from home, we don't want players like that, we can't afford it."
Sunderland have played five of the Premier League's top six teams away this season - Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea, Manchester City and Everton - and on paper Reading presents the Wearsiders with a better chance to pick up that first win.
But Keane reckons the game at the Madejski Stadium could be just as difficult as the trip to Stamford Bridge, the club's last away match.
He said: "Reading's home form is very good, they beat Liverpool 3-1 recently. This will be one of our toughest games. Reading are organised, good at set-pieces and put you under pressure.
"I'm sure they [Reading] will be all right this season. Steve Coppell does a good job there."
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By Nick Alexander
We face a scrap, Roy
Roy Keane accepts that Sunderland are in for a scrap for survival in the second half of the campaign.
The Black Cats reach the season's half-way mark after their game against Manchester United at the Stadium of Light on Boxing Day.
Before that, they go to Reading, tomorrow, and Keane knows the Black Cats need to start putting points on the board.
He said: "We're in for a massive fight. There are eight or nine teams who could go down and we're one of them. We have got to prove the doubters wrong, I still feel that we can have a good season.
"We believe we will get stronger as the season goes on. We have some big home games to come and we have to win them, they will dictate our season. But we also need to pick up away from home, to take some pressure off the home games.
"We knew it would be tough - I didn't think we would be in the top half - and we face more tough months ahead. We brought Sunderland to the Premier League and we want to stay here.
"It will be a massive challenge and we need characters. Hopefully the players will come through it with flying colours."
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Reading 2-1 Sunderland
By Russell Barder
Stephen Hunt's controversial injury-time goal denied Sunderland a point at the Madejski stadium.
Hunt's shot was clawed away by Craig Gordon but the officials ruled the ball had crossed the line.
Ivar Ingimarsson gave Reading the lead from close range, but Sunderland hit back through Michael Chopra's late penalty after a foul on Kenwyne Jones.
Hunt hit the post as Reading dominated, but Jones missed a great chance for the visitors late on.
Sunderland remain without an away win this season and will feel aggrieved they did not come away with at least a point after clawing their way back into the game.
It's the second time in as many weeks that the Black Cats were left bemoaning a refereeing decision, after they were denied a late winner against Aston Villa last week.
Reading's stoppage time winner will no doubt reignite the debate about the use of goal-line technology as Gordon appeared to have done enough to keep out Hunt's terrific volley.
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Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's defeat at Reading:
"It was poor from us in the first half but I thought we did a bit better in the second.
"We've got a hell of a long way to go and the challenge is to try to improve.
"We've got a lot of work to do and we need to do it quickly. Teams have good days and bad days and we felt we could get a result here.
"I have watched thousands of games in my career, where teams have not played particularly well but have got a result and we nearly did it today.
"No one is certain whether it crossed the line. I have seen the replay, but if they are not sure, they should not give it.
"There were lots of decisions we felt went against us - the free-kick before the first goal and the throw-in before the second goal.
"When you go away, any team will put you under pressure but we hung in there. We got the penalty and then Kenwyne goes through one-on-one. If he passes inside to Stokesy, he has an open goal.
"If that happens, we snatch the game; and lot of teams do that. It would have been a welcome result for us as well.
"We had to go a goal behind before we reacted and we've done that many a time this season, we could have snatched the victory and that would have been nice. We didn't and we have to learn fast - all of us.
"We have to take the decision. You can talk all night but it's not going to change the decision."
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No sentiment for old boy Keane
Roy Keane says there will be no sentiment when Sunderland play Manchester United on Boxing Day.
Keane has legendary status at Old Trafford after spending a glorious 12 years with United as a player.
But he insists there will be no hand-shakes or back-slapping at the Stadium of Light as he looks to steer Sunderland to a shock result against the champions.
The Black Cats are in the bottom three after losing to Reading in controversial circumstances on Saturday.
Keane said: "United is a great game to look forward to and one the fans will look forward to.
"United are a top club with great supporters but we're in a professional business, you don't get sucked into an old pals' act, far from it. We want to win the game, we need to points.
"It's nothing to do with personal feelings, it's about Sunderland, I'm not a great one for looking back."
Sunderland have to pick themselves up after the disappointment at Reading when a late decision by the linesman cost them a point.
"We'll recover and be ready," said Keane. "United are in great form but we look forward to the challenge.
"What went on at Reading was a blow to the heart for us and we've got to respond.
"There's no bigger test than United. It's a chance to show people we are not as bad as our results would suggest."
The Back Cats will be backed by a sell-out crowd at the Stadium of Light. "They [the fans] are so important to us," side Keane.
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Team news
Michael Chopra is a doubt with a heel injury he picked up at Reading on Saturday.
Liam Miller remains suspended while Nyron Nosworthy (hamstring), Kieran Richardson (back) and Russell Anderson (ankle) are not yet ready to return.
Park Ji-sung could return to the Manchester United squad for the first time since March after knee surgery.
Edwin van der Sar (groin) is definitely out, while Rio Ferdinand (foot) and Owen Hargreaves (back) should be fit.
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Sunderland 0-4 Man Utd
By Ian Hughes
Manchester United swept aside Sunderland with ease to end the day top of the Premier League after Arsenal's evening draw at Portsmouth.
An inspired Wayne Rooney opened the scoring on 20 minutes, coolly stroking the ball home from 18 yards.
Rooney then set up United's second, clipping in a cross for Louis Saha to volley sweetly into the bottom corner.
Cristiano Ronaldo curled in a free-kick on 45 minutes and Saha rounded things off with an 86th-minute penalty.
Sunderland boss, and former United skipper, Roy Keane had sprung a major surprise against his old club by including 17-year-old striker Martyn Waghorn in his line-up.
And initially, the teenager betrayed the fact he was making his first senior appearance by showing a decent touch and willingness to take on United's vastly experienced players.
But his team-mates lacked either the guile or the confidence to emulate his fearlessness.
And instead, Ronaldo and Rooney soon began to dictate the play and stroke the ball around nonchalantly.
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Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's defeat to Manchester United:
"It's not nice to lose any game - especially at home - but we have been beaten 4-0 by a very good team.
"We started OK but we gave away two very sloppy goals, the first two goals were disappointing.
"If you give [Wayne] Rooney that type of space, he's going to punish you and for the second goal we were in decent possession.
"The third goal, just before half-time, was a killer blow; it was highly unlikely that we could come back and win 4-3.
"I was pleased with the way the players kept going and I thought our fans kept us going.
"You could say that United took their foot off the gas - it was a harsh lesson for everyone. United have good players, good movement, good touch and they punish you when you make a mistake.
"You always know it is going to be a hard game but when you go 1-0 down to United, it very tough.
"My money was on United to win the title and today has not changed my view one bit.
"Our fans were very, very good - and I'm not trying to patronise the Sunderland supporters. I'm sure they are hurting as much as me. They stayed behind the team, they supported us.
"The easiest thing for football fans to do is to get on players' backs and they didn't do it, we appreciate it.
"If anyone says that were were comfortable losing 4-0 at home to United then they are mistaken. We're in a sticky patch, in a massive, massive fight without a doubt.
"I feel we deserve a few more points on the board but we haven't got them, that's the reality. We are where we are. The best team will win the league and the three worst teams will go down.
"I believe we are not one the three worst teams in the Premier League and it would be nice to back that up with some positive results.
"We are doing ok, we have lots going for us in terms of the spirit of the players and their attitude.
"I thought Martyn [Waghorn] did very well today. We have no doubts about him, he's a talented kid. Physically, he's strong, his touch is assured and we're delighted with him.
"We hope he will have a long and successful career at Sunderland. If you are going to make your debut, why not today?
"He found out he was playing when I named the team, like everyone else. He looked assured and comfortable out there, especially in the first half. We changed it in the second half and we had to do a team job. It was a tough debut for him."
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13878
Fans brilliant against United
Roy Keane has thanked Sunderland's fans for their "quality" support against Manchester United.
The Sunderland faithful got behind their team in difficult circumstances against United on Boxing Day.
Keane's men were trailing 3-0 before half-time but the fans still made themselves heard. "They showed why this is a great club," said Keane.
"The fans helped us keep going against United and we will need that again. It was top support and there's no doubt it helped the players.
"We are in a scrap and it would be much tougher if the fans were getting on players' backs. They haven't done so and we really do appreciate it."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=32909.0)
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13876
It is a must-win game
Roy Keane has told his Sunderland troops - let's start the second half of the season in style.
The Black Cats reached the half-way mark on Boxing Day when they lost to Manchester United at the Stadium of Light.
The result left them in the Premier League's bottom three and Keane knows results will have to improve if his side is to stay in the top flight.
"Beating Bolton would be a great way to start the second half of the season," he said.
"We have to be stronger in the next few months, we know that. If we have the same points total again it will not look too good.
"We've got to fight and scrap for everything. The players have to give everything they have got, like they have been doing.
"I said after the [Manchester] United game that I don't think we are one of the three worst teams in the Premier League but we need to back it up.
"Everyone has to pull up their sleeves and I think we have a great chance because there's nothing wrong with the spirit in the camp."
Sunderland's game against Bolton at the Stadium of Light tomorrow - 19th versus 15th in the Premier League - is being billed as a "must-win" game.
Keane added: "This is the real important game for us this week, we need to get a positive result.
"Bolton are tough to play against. They have quality players like [Nicolas] Anelka and they are a big, strong, physical side.
"The results in games like this will determine how our season pans out. It's a pressure situation - another must-win game and it's something we've said lots of times since I came here.
"We need to make the most of being at home and we're looking forward to it."
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13880
Team news
Roy Keane welcomes back Liam Miller for Sunderland's hugely important game against Bolton at the Stadium of Light.
The Irish midfielder is available after serving a three-game ban for his sending off at Chelsea.
Teenager Martyn Waghorn could keep his place after making a decent debut in Wednesday's 4-0 defeat to Manchester United.
Keane said: "Martyn got a taste of what it's like in the Premier League and we'll see how he recovers.
"It's never easy making your debut but if anyone should be fresh, he should be, he's just a kid."
Kieran Richardson returned from injury against United, coming on for the last 30 minutes to feature for the first time since August.
Keane said: "We'll have a look at Kieran, he is not match fit but he gives us a bit extra. Hopefully he will be involved tomorrow."
Nyron Nosworthy is close to returning from a hamstring injury and will have a late fitness test before Keane fills in his team-sheet.
"We'll wait and see with Nyron," said the manager. "We're bringing people back quicker than we would like but beggars can't be choosers."
Carlos Edwards and Russell Anderson are still missing and Michael Chopra is a doubt with a heel injury.
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Sunderland 3-1 Bolton
By David Ornstein
Kenwyne Jones created one goal and scored another as Sunderland moved out of the drop zone with a priceless win.
The home side opened the scoring when Jones slipped in Kieran Richardson to notch his first goal for the club.
Richardson then turned provider as his corner was by met by Jones with a powerful header.
El-Hadji Diouf reduced the deficit with a free-kick shortly before half-time but Sunderland extended their lead through Daryl Murphy at the death.
Interview: Sunderland boss Roy Keane
The result was enough to lift Roy Keane's men out of the relegation zone at the expense of Wigan.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7157418.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13884
We had to win the game twice, Keane
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's win over Bolton:
"It's nice to win, it feels like a while since we have done so.
"It wasn't pretty but it was a win and I think the players deserved it. We've played a lot better this year and not won but today we ground out a good win.
"Kieran [Richardson] did very well, he's a talented player, there's no question about that.
"Ross [Wallace] hurt his hamstring in training yesterday so we had to throw Kieran in. But in this situation you have to roll up your sleeves and some players have to play when they are not fully fit.
"We had to win the game twice. We were 2-0 up three or four minutes before half-time, we gave away a sloppy free-kick and it was 2-1 at half time. They went in lifted and we were fed up so the players have to win the game again.
"Our back-four has been criticised - especially the two centre-backs - but they did very well today.
"We made it hard for ourselves by dropping so deep and not keeping possession when we had it. The one time we produced anything was when Murphy scored, we could have done with that a lot earlier but credit to the players.
"when we are at home we have to approach the games in a positive way, we have to go for it.
"Kenwyne has been brilliant for us. I thought he was good against United against Rio and Vidic. People will look at his goal and assists but he runs his socks off, he's a team player.
"I want a team that will roll their sleeves up when needs be and we did that.
"I say it's a must-win game every week, as manager of Sunderland I seem to say it all the time. We're out of the bottom three but it will only count in May.
"You can't beat winning football matches, it's a boost for everyone - the players, they enjoy a win bonus, and the fans."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=32945.0)
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Standings as of 30th of December
| Position | Team | Played | Goal Dif | Points |
| 7 | Aston Villa | 20 | 9 | 33 |
| 8 | Portsmouth | 20 | 9 | 31 |
| 9 | Blackburn | 20 | -1 | 30 |
| 10 | West Ham | 19 | 8 | 29 |
| 11 | Newcastle | 20 | -4 | 26 |
| 12 | Tottenham | 20 | 5 | 24 |
| 13 | Reading | 20 | -13 | 22 |
| 14 | Middlesboro | 20 | -15 | 20 |
| 15 | Birmingham | 20 | -9 | 19 |
| 16 | Bolton | 20 | -10 | 17 |
| 17 | Sunderland | 20 | -19 | 17 |
| 18 | Wigan | 20 | -16 | 16 |
| 19 | Fulham | 20 | -14 | 15 |
| 20 | Derby | 20 | -35 | 7 |
January Fixtures
| Team | GW 21 | GW 22 | GW 23 | GW 24 |
| Reading | (H)Pompey - L | (A)Villa - L | (H)Man U - L | (A)Chelsea - L |
| Middlesboro | (H)Everton - L | (H)Liverpool - D | (A)Blackburn - D | (H)Wigan - W |
| Birmingham | (A)Man U - L | (A)Arsenal - D | (H)Chelsea - W | (A)Sunlun - L |
| Bolton | (H)Derby - W | (H) Blackburn - L | (A)Newcastle - D | (H)Fulham - D |
| Sunlun | (A)Blackburn - L | (H)Pompey - W | (A)Spurs - L | (H)Birmingham - W |
| Wigan | (A)Liverpool - D | (A)Derby - W | (H)Everton - L | (A)Boro - L |
| Fulham | (H)Chelsea - L | (A)West Ham - L | (H)Arsenal - L | (A)Bolton - D |
| Derby | (A)Bolton - L | (H)Wigan - L | (A)Pompey - L | (H)Man City - D |
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jeezann birmingham gettin some serious bull dey...kenwyne boy strike some form so that scouts go stamp dey passport tuh trinidad..
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13899
Keane expecting tough test
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane admits that Sunderland will have to be in top form at Blackburn tonight if they want to record their first away win of the season.
The Black Cats head to Ewood Park looking to move further away from the drop zone after a morale-boosting win over Bolton.
But Keane knows they face an ever tougher task against Rovers and their in-form striker Roque Santa Cruz.
Keane said: "Blackburn are a tough side to play against and they have got a centre-forward in unbelievable form. But every team you play in the Premier League has got top players.
"We played against Nicolas Anelka on Saturday and he has moved for about £75million in total.
"That's what you are up against in the Premier League - top-quality players. My players are being tested every week."
Sunderland have not won away from home this season and have lost their last six on the road.
"It's a disappointing record and we're looking to change it," said Keane.
"Our home form has been OK and I feel that we should have got something out of Blackburn at the Stadium of Light. Hopefully, Saturday's win will give us a boost going into the game."
Mark Hughes, the Rovers manager and former team-mate of Keane at Manchester United, reckons
Sunderland have what it takes to avoid relegation this season.
He said: "Sunderland are one of the better teams down the bottom end. I think they've got a bit more about them than some of the other teams in and around them."
Blackburn 1-0 Sunderland
By Saj Chowdhury
A penalty from Benni McCarthy proved enough to hand Blackburn victory at the expense of 10-man Sunderland who had their own spot-kick saved.
McCarthy fired his effort into the bottom left after Danny Higginbotham handled Christopher Samba's volley.
Moments earlier, Sunderland's Dean Whitehead had his penalty saved by Brad Friedel after Samba had fouled Daryl Murphy inside the area.
Dwight Yorke was later shown a second yellow for a late tackle on David Dunn.
The defeat pushed Sunderland into the bottom three after Wigan's surprise draw against Liverpool
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7163895.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13904
We got what we deserved, Keane
"We missed our penalty and they scored theirs and that's it, end of story. You get what you deserve in life - we ended up with nothing and that's what we deserved.
"We can talk all night about this and that, possession and doing OK - we said the same at West Ham and we said the same at Man City, but you get what you deserve.
"It's all a learning curve for us but, again, the penny has to drop - we can't keep having the same conversations after games and at half-time saying there's something there for us. I'm sick of saying the same things to the media.
"Yorkie has given the referee an opportunity to send him off and I've got no real complaints.
"It's not nice but obviously the aim is not to be in the bottom three come May. We had a chance of getting further away from it tonight and these opportunities keep slipping us by. Come the end of the season we hope we don't come to regret it too much.
"Our home form is just keeping us in touch. We need to start picking up points away from home and tonight was the perfect opportunity, they were there for the taking, but we didn't take it. We had a penalty, missed it and they've scored, and it summed up the game I suppose.
"We took Kenwyne (Jones) off because he was limping before half-time and we didn't want to take any chances with him, Kenwyne's a big player for us and we should have a better idea over the next 24 to 48 hours how he is, but it's hopefully not too serious."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=32987.0)
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Sunderland star: We are not a one-man team
Sunderland Echo
Sunderland can be a threat against Wigan tomorrow even without talismanic striker Kenwyne Jones, insists Danny Higginbotham.
Jones was substituted at half time when the Black Cats went down 1-0 at Blackburn on Wednesday to fall back into the Premier League relegation zone.
The Trinidad & Tobago hitman has become a firm favourite with fans since his £6million move from Southampton in August but looks set to miss tomorrow's FA Cup third round tie with fellow Premier strugglers Wigan at the Stadium of Light.
Boss Roy Keane will not want to risk 23-year-old in the cup with more important league games to worry about.
And Higginbotham said Sunderland is not a one-man band:
"We miss Kenwyne. He's been a good signing and a big player for the team," said Higginbotham.
"But I thought Daryl Murphy did very well up there for the team when Kenwyne went off at Blackburn.
"We have other able players up front who can do a job.
"You don't just rely on one player to do it for you – it's a team game."
Higginbotham was devastated to concede the penalty that gave Blackburn their victory at Ewood Park after skipper Dean Whitehead had a spot kick saved following a foul on Murphy.
"It was very frustrating for us," he confessed. "We thought at half time that we had a real chance to win it.
"Things did not turn out that way and we can't change it now.
"We have to look forward to the Wigan game.
"The Premier League is the most important thing for us, but you go into every game looking to win.
"Hopefully we can get a good performance, get through to the next round and build our confidence up."
Winger Ross Wallace agreed that any win will be a welcome boost to the Black Cats, even though it won't directly help their bid to remain in the top flight.
He said: "Winning breeds confidence. Our fans will only accept a committed performance, and that's what they'll get.
"I know that a cup run means extra games, but it also means you're winning games and that must be good for confidence."
Wigan's 1-1 draw at Liverpool on Wednesday helped them climb out of the Premier League drop zone at Sunderland's expense.
But Geordie Steve Bruce's Latics will be without Anfield goal hero Titus Bramble, who is suspended after reaching five yellow cards.
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Sunderland 0-3 Wigan
Wigan boss Steve Bruce fielded a much-changed side but knocked former Manchester United team-mate Roy Keane's Sunderland out of the FA Cup.
Paul Scharner was left unmarked to give the visitors a half-time lead when he headed in Josip Skoko's free-kick.
Jonny Evans's poor back-pass let in Julius Agahowa and as he ran through on goal, Paul McShane tried to clear but put the ball past his own goalkeeper.
Dave Cotterill later made it 3-0 with a beautifully struck effort.
Keane had pledged to field his strongest possible side, but still made five changes after his squad were hit by injuries and suspensions.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/7163974.stm)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13924
I'm ashamed - Keane
"We picked the team and we didn't cut any corners with that. I would like to say we played lots of fringe players and came unstuck but we didn't. That team was good enough to get a result.
"All three goals we've conceded today have not been good enough really.
"It's taken me by surprise. I didn't see it coming. It was a strange atmosphere and very flat, but players have got to rise above that. But we could have stayed here until the next week and we wouldn't have scored. No excuses, but that wasn't good enough.
"A Sunderland fan said towards dug-out that we should be ashamed of ourselves and I can't argue with that. I'm pretty ashamed today.
"How many games have we lost this year? Lots. I'm like a broken record, but you have to keep working hard and persevering. We've got a tough game next week.
"We've been chopping and changing players, we're trying lots of different things and players and some took their chances, others didn't.
"I'll take the criticism on board. I'm ashamed today. Sunderland losing 3-0 at home to Wigan is very hard to take. The fans have been fantastic to me, they're intelligent and for them to say this was a disgrace, well they're spot on.
"Well get back on the training pitch and persevere. We still believe in ourselves. We have to get back and focus on our league form, not that we've got a choice. That's our bread and butter.
"We'll make a decision on Quinton Fortune in the next few days. He's been training with us for a month or so, I know him well and we'll decide later in the week."
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13958
Keane open to offers
Roy Keane revealed today that he'd be prepared to let some players go in the January transfer window.
The Sunderland manager said: "We're looking to bring a number of players in during the window that can play a key role this season and that means we have to manage the squad.
"There are some players that I'd consider going out on loan or moving on if it's right for the player and the club and I've spoken to some of the lads today.
"I had a chat with Ross (Wallace), Dave (Connolly), Greg (Halford), Kav (Kavanagh), Hartey (Harte) and Wrighty (Wright) and told them if a club comes in for them this month I'd be prepared to have a chat."
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13957
Beware form side Pompey
By Martin Walker
Kieran Richardson is warning his team-mates Portsmouth will be no pushovers on Sunday.
Harry Redknapp has been hit with losing four first team players due to the African Cup of Nations - exciting midfielder Sulley Muntari, strikers John Utaka and Kanu as well as midfield enforcer Papa Boupa Diop.
But Pompey have the best away record in the Premier League, with seven wins out of 11, a draw and three defeats.
And Richardson says it will be as tough a game as any.
He said: "Portsmouth will be weakened because of losing those players, but every game in the Premier League is very hard and they'll still have plenty of players to cause most team trouble.
"It doesn't matter who they put out. They've been in the Premier League a while now and clubs get stronger because of that.
"They will have confidence because they're doing so well.
"People might think this will be an easy game for them because of our recent results, but we have something to say about that.
"Because we're out of the cups now, we've got one game a week for the rest of the season and I'm expecting it will be hard for any team to play against us."
Richardson is appreciating his football after sitting out four months of the season with a hairline fracture of the spine.
"Personally, being back out on that pitch has made me really appreciate my football and what it means to be playing football again," he said.
"If my form is good, I expect to be completing 90 minutes of every game from now on and I'm so happy to be back playing.
"Obviously, results have been a downer but we have to stop thinking about losing to Wigan last weekend and concentrate on putting everything into the Portsmouth game.
"I don't have any worries in my mind. We have the coaching staff, the manager and the players and I think we should be OK."
Sunderland 2-0 Portsmouth
By Ian Hughes
An inspired Kieran Richardson scored twice to earn Sunderland a vital win in their fight against relegation.
After 33 minutes of anxious football, during which Benjani volleyed the best chance wide, Richardson took control.
First the midfielder slid in to drill a low shot into the right corner after being picked out by Kenwyne Jones.
Then he picked up a loose ball, ghosted by Herman Hreidarsson and thumped home an angled shot, while in the second half he cracked a shot against the bar.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7172835.stm)
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's win over Portsmouth:
"I'm not sure if that was the best performance of the season, but it was very good. A clean sheet and two goals, which could have been more, means it was a real good team effort. It was a very good day for us.
"This was a good response to last weekend, but I knew the players would do that. There had been negative energy from people outside the club, but our home form hasn't been too bad. We were ready for the game.
"Kenwyne has been a big plus for us. There are some players we struggle to do well without and he's one of them and he wasn't even properly fit. Maybe only 60 or 70 per cent fit. I don't like to ask players to play when they're like that, but I'm pleased with him.
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"Kieran came to the club for what you saw today. He's one of the quickest players I've come across over five or ten yards. He can get you a goal. It's a massive plus. We've had to throw him in.
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"Really nice for us to have a clean sheet. Ask any goalkeeper. Craig looked a lot more assured today. He came for balls and when you see that, your keeper punching one or two away,m it's great for the team to get the ball back up the pitch.
"Yorkey did very well today. He looked sharp. He had that calming influence.
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"There are three mini tables and it's important we finish top of our league. We're still in touch. It'll be nip and tuck between now and the end of the season. A suspension for Danny Collins doesn't help, but these things are sent to try us.
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"Kenwyne has a real chance of being a top, top player because he's a team player. Imagine what he's like when he's fit.
"In the transfer market, no one has turned us down. There were only two players who turned us down last summer, Baines and Nugent and that was fair enough, but we didn't speak to any players last week. It's cat and mouse. We're looking to bring in a couple, but it's important we concentrate on the players who did so well for us today.
Full Reaction (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=13964&fixture=2924211&t=4)
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=33202.0)
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Burnley secure loan deal for Cole
BBC Sport
Cole has made eight appearances for Sunderland this season (Getty)
Burnley boss Owen Coyle has secured a loan deal for Sunderland striker Andy Cole until the end of the season.
The 36-year-old former Manchester United striker becomes Coyle's second Black Cats' import, joining defender Stanislav Varga at Turf Moor.
Coyle told the club website: "I have been working on signing him for a while now. He will be a tremendous addition.
Meanwhile, the Clarets have extended the loan spell of Slovakian veteran Varga until the end of the season.
Cole had fallen behind the likes of Kenwyne Jones, Anthony Stokes and Michael Chopra in the pecking order at the Stadium of Light but managed eight appearances so far this season.
However the arrival of Swedish international striker Rade Prica has forced the former England international to look elsewhere for first-team opportunities.
Meanwhile, Coyle is also said to be looking at Galatasaray midfielder Marcelo Adrian Carrusca.
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Jones and Yorke Starting... KO @ 4PM TT Time
Any Sopcast stream??
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Both links working.
Use the first one.
This is TVAnts, not Sopcast.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=5412&part=sports
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Kenwyne badly need shooting practice. De wuss part of his game.
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Kenwyne 'Freakin' Jones assist # 5,093!
1 nil Sunland
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free kick
jones wins header onto murphy
taylor stands like an idiot
1-0 Sunderland, assist jones
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Sigh ,It say my Ants expired huhhh .So what the link plz ,for the TV ant, I is get so fed up with these thing eh .
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Sigh ,It say my Ants expired huhhh .So what the link plz ,for the TV ant, I is get so fed up with these thing eh .
compre boy, ah tell yuh FTA receiver ;)
game comin in clear clear
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Murphy real stepping up these past few games. Good header from Kenwyne.
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Sigh ,It say my Ants expired huhhh .So what the link plz ,for the TV ant, I is get so fed up with these thing eh .
http://www.myp2p.eu/softwareitem.php?softwareid=4&part=software
Scroll to the bottom.
Select the first option, download, then unzip.
Is it me, or Dwight still has game?
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Sigh ,It say my Ants expired huhhh .So what the link plz ,for the TV ant, I is get so fed up with these thing eh .
compre boy, ah tell yuh FTA receiver ;)
game comin in clear clear
hehe ,thanks ricky ,my wife say when we get the house .But this working fer now thanks Dervaig.
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Is it me, or Dwight still has game?
Physically he's past it, but Dwight has football brains- that will last forever, and it seems to be taking him a long way...
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Is it me, or Dwight still has game?
Physically he's past it, but Dwight has football brains- that will last forever, and it seems to be taking him a long way...
Physically he past it? So he only playing fantasy ball now or what?
If yuh say physically he is NOT where he used to be cuz ah age dat make sense, but football brains can only take yuh so far, yuh still have to PHYSICALLY execute.
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Is it me, or Dwight still has game?
Physically he's past it, but Dwight has football brains- that will last forever, and it seems to be taking him a long way...
Physically he past it? So he only playing fantasy ball now or what?
If yuh say physically he is NOT where he used to be cuz ah age dat make sense, but football brains can only take yuh so far, yuh still have to PHYSICALLY execute.
He can't recover when he makes mistakes. Which makes his mistakes more glaring.
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Ah see Prica sub on for Dwight, did he(Prica) fall in Mid or someone else drop back, and who ?
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Ah see Prica sub on for Dwight, did he(Prica) fall in Mid or someone else drop back, and who ?
It was 4-5-1 before. They change to 4-4-2.
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Ah see Prica sub on for Dwight, did he(Prica) fall in Mid or someone else drop back, and who ?
It was 4-5-1 before. They change to 4-4-2.
thanks
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GOAL 2-0
but ah miss it
prica
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GOAL 2-0
but ah miss it
prica
tipped it right over the keeper, nice
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Jones = PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All is near the ball before it gets to the back of the net.
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Jones = PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All is near the ball before it gets to the back of the net.
Defenders busy focusing on him, meanwhile Prica slip in between and handle business.
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nex goal 3-0 disallowed
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BBC PLAYER RATER
Kenwyne Jones of Sunderland is the belle of the ball among users of Player Rater. He's earned a whopping 8.62 - that's fully 4.71 points ahead of Birmingham stopper Maik Taylor who has a mere 3.91. And I didn't even use a calculator.
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Is it me, or Dwight still has game?
Physically he's past it, but Dwight has football brains- that will last forever, and it seems to be taking him a long way...
Physically he past it? So he only playing fantasy ball now or what?
If yuh say physically he is NOT where he used to be cuz ah age dat make sense, but football brains can only take yuh so far, yuh still have to PHYSICALLY execute.
Oh gosh- of course you need to be physically fit and fine tuned to play ball at the highest level...... ???
You like you were just feelin' tuh type something.....steeupssss....
Past it means past his best......and you know what I meant :-\ :-\
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YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEE AND BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
that was a massive 3 points
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it's official, Kenwyne Jones wins Barclays Man of The Match award :beermug:
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big 3 points. Nice jump to the 14th spot (http://www.premierleague.com/page/LeagueTable) Only Reading still to play their 24th match could knock them down this round but they are facing Chelsea so I think they're safe.
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Bardsley and Evans will be key to Sunland staying
up.
Let's hope they stay fit.
What's the latest with C. Edwards?
He wasn't on the bench.
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Ah better ease off dis Guinness yes. Ah busy dropping de news about Sunderland 2 Birmingham 0 on de thread fuh de players playing today. Ah find it strange how come I find dat out first, ah telling meh self, way dem forum jumbie and dem. May be is Tuesday afternoon and members busy hustling dey food, so when men get off wuk dey go be all over de forum. Well ah should ah think more without de Guinness, lol all yuh over here, running de place and have info on luck down ???. Ah should ah know better, cuz dis forum always have a few people on it at all times. At 3,4 in de morning yuh cud look fuh BnS, JC(de herb man ;D) Berris and some times me 2, and ah couple others ah cah remember. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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big 3 points. Nice jump to the 14th spot (http://www.premierleague.com/page/LeagueTable) Only Reading still to play their 24th match could knock them down this round but they are facing Chelsea so I think they're safe.
Boss what happen? Like I drink de Guinness and you swallow ah what. I saw dat de table have Sunderland at 13th and you have 14th in yuh post ???. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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big 3 points. Nice jump to the 14th spot (http://www.premierleague.com/page/LeagueTable) Only Reading still to play their 24th match could knock them down this round but they are facing Chelsea so I think they're safe.
Boss what happen? Like I drink de Guinness and you swallow ah what. I saw dat de table have Sunderland at 13th and you have 14th in yuh post ???. HIGHLY BLESSED.
They were in 13th until Middlesbrough hit Wigan
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Fellas: anybody have a torrent download of this match or anyextended highlights?
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big 3 points. Nice jump to the 14th spot (http://www.premierleague.com/page/LeagueTable) Only Reading still to play their 24th match could knock them down this round but they are facing Chelsea so I think they're safe.
Boss what happen? Like I drink de Guinness and you swallow ah what. I saw dat de table have Sunderland at 13th and you have 14th in yuh post ???. HIGHLY BLESSED.
They were in 13th until Middlesbrough hit Wigan
Well alright, my bad, yuh on top ah things boss :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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SSSOOOOOO WAH IS YUH POINT, THEY IN THE BOTTOM THREE AND ON COURSE FOR RELEGATION!
Well done Sunderland!
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Keane say Yorke injured and won't be available for de game on Saturday.
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Keane say Yorke injured and won't be available for de game on Saturday.
oh no... i'm sure Dwight would have looked forward to that
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HIGHLIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.goaltube.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=128&mode=&order=0&thold=0
Type this into your address bar and click play
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muchas gracias senor
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HIGHLIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.goaltube.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=128&mode=&order=0&thold=0
Type this into your address bar and click play
Thanks. A nice knock-down from KJ. That not as easy to do as it looks. Remember he had lay one on a platter fuh Latas to unleash a demon vs Paraguay too
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now dat I finally have a new confuser after three days, I am very happy to see that Sunderland has won a game.
keep up the hard work fellas ;)
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Yorke was below average today. Last week, against Totttenham, he was exceptional. In the Spurs game he covered a lot of ground, a maestro in the midfield, great passing, etc and in some ways he was Man of the Match. Today, he gave away the ball twice and that was early in the game. Not only that, he did not control the pace or the midfield. Maybe the ball just was not dropping for him as one of the commentators mentioned. Or maybe an item in Birmingham’s strategy was to break up his play.
Jones was sensational. That said he really needs to spend more time practicing shooting. In the Arsenal-Newcastle game, one of the commentators said that Adebayor spends extra time, after the normal training session, practicing one-on-one, shooting etc.
Since the tottenham game, I am beginning to be more impressed by Murphy. Miller is also playing good ball.
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Yorke was below average today. Last week, against Totttenham, he was exceptional. In the Spurs game he covered a lot of ground, a maestro in the midfield, great passing, etc and in some ways he was Man of the Match. Today, he gave away the ball twice and that was early in the game. Not only that, he did not control the pace or the midfield. Maybe the ball just was not dropping for him as one of the commentators mentioned. Or maybe an item in Birmingham’s strategy was to break up his play.
Jones was sensational. That said he really needs to spend more time practicing shooting. In the Arsenal-Newcastle game, one of the commentators said that Adebayor spends extra time, after the normal training session, practicing one-on-one, shooting etc.
Since the tottenham game, I am beginning to be more impressed by Murphy. Miller is also playing good ball.
Here's my problem with miller,he tries to do things he's not capable of,for example he get ah ball down the flank and instead of crossing or passing the ball to an approaching unmarked team-mate he desides to wait on the defender and then try some unecessary dribble that was'nt there in the first place,and he does that consistently in games,he may have some good moments throughout a game but he's consistently inconsistent.............
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Yorke was below average today. Last week, against Totttenham, he was exceptional. In the Spurs game he covered a lot of ground, a maestro in the midfield, great passing, etc and in some ways he was Man of the Match. Today, he gave away the ball twice and that was early in the game. Not only that, he did not control the pace or the midfield. Maybe the ball just was not dropping for him as one of the commentators mentioned. Or maybe an item in Birmingham’s strategy was to break up his play.
Jones was sensational. That said he really needs to spend more time practicing shooting. In the Arsenal-Newcastle game, one of the commentators said that Adebayor spends extra time, after the normal training session, practicing one-on-one, shooting etc.
Since the tottenham game, I am beginning to be more impressed by Murphy. Miller is also playing good ball.
Here's my problem with miller,he tries to do things he's not capable of,for example he get ah ball down the flank and instead of crossing or passing the ball to an approaching unmarked team-mate he desides to wait on the defender and then try some unecessary dribble that was'nt there in the first place,and he does that consistently in games,he may have some good moments throughout a game but he's consistently inconsistent.............
You mean murphy, not miller! murphy plays on the left flank , miller is a central midfielder. positive.
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In the replay Jones' pressure on the defender forced the mistake that caused the second goal. Good work KJ.
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In the replay Jones' pressure on the defender forced the mistake that caused the second goal. Good work KJ.
That's a stretch- that defender simply choked.....
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OHH YESSS COULD THIS BE THE TURNAROUND WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: YEAS SUNDERS GOOD WIN KEEP THEM GOALS COMING!
KENWAYNE LIVERPOOL IS YOURS NOW, GET THEM GOALS BEFORE YUH COME HOME!
CONCACAF'S NEXT NEMESIS!
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Since the tottenham game, I am beginning to be more impressed by Murphy.
Murphy getting on since Portsmouth. Keane was prepared to sell him to QPR this month. I think that light a fire under him.
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Sunderland in 14 place now ;D
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Since the tottenham game, I am beginning to be more impressed by Murphy.
Murphy getting on since Portsmouth. Keane was prepared to sell him to QPR this month. I think that light a fire under him.
Cory, one more post and yuh turn 5 star general. positive.
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Since the tottenham game, I am beginning to be more impressed by Murphy.
Murphy getting on since Portsmouth. Keane was prepared to sell him to QPR this month. I think that light a fire under him.
Cory, one more post and yuh turn 5 star general. positive.
;D
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Genius !!
(http://t1.images.live.com/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1498443092852&id=74c07b7bc534d625c3711f88ff4a35d6)
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Yorke was below average today. Last week, against Totttenham, he was exceptional. In the Spurs game he covered a lot of ground, a maestro in the midfield, great passing, etc and in some ways he was Man of the Match. Today, he gave away the ball twice and that was early in the game. Not only that, he did not control the pace or the midfield. Maybe the ball just was not dropping for him as one of the commentators mentioned. Or maybe an item in Birmingham’s strategy was to break up his play.
Jones was sensational. That said he really needs to spend more time practicing shooting. In the Arsenal-Newcastle game, one of the commentators said that Adebayor spends extra time, after the normal training session, practicing one-on-one, shooting etc.
Since the tottenham game, I am beginning to be more impressed by Murphy. Miller is also playing good ball.
if this is true then why did Roy Keane say that Yorke was missed when he went off with the injury and it took the team 15 mins to adapt to his abscence??
who should i listen to? you or roy?
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Reid right for Sunderland
By: Adam Marshall (Setanta Sports)
Sunderland boss Roy Keane has completed the signing of Charlton midfielder Andy Reid.
The Republic of ireland international has cost up to £4 million with Greg Halford moving in the opposite direction on loan until the end of the season.
A three-and-a-half year contract has been signed in the North East with the total fee dependent on various "team and player factors" according to Sunderland.
Reid, who made his mark at Nottingham Forest before joining Tottenham, is an excellent passer of the ball and should force his way into Keane's midfield as The Black Cats battle to avoid relegation.
There has been speculation in Ireland for several weeks that the Stadium of Light boss was keen to land his fellow countryman.
Keane had now made five January signings after adding Rade Prica, Jonny Evans, Jean-Yves Mvoto, and Phil Bardsley to his squad.
Bardsley's arrival at right back hastened the departure of Halford, who has failed to impress on Wearside.
Meanwhile, Charlton have confirmed Chris Dickson is out for three months with a knee injury and Accrington Stanley have signed Valley youngster Aswad Thomas on loan.
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A forward, three defenders, and now a fairly decent midfielder.
They've been busy with their transfers/buys.
Sunland with their additions should stay in the Prem, I hope!
It would be nice to see Edwards return in short order.
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http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14024&fixture=2848335&t=1
Tottenham - Sunderland Pre-match
19th January 2008
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane is calling for his Sunderland side to end their away day hoodoo at Tottenham tomorrow.
The Black Cats are still waiting for their first win away from the Stadium of Light this season. In fact, they have picked up two points from a possible 33 on their travels, losing their last seven on the road.
But after a good victory over Portsmouth last weekend, Keane is confident Sunderland can get a positive result at White Hart Lane.
He said: "Spurs is an important game for us. It's vital that we try to kick on and get some sort of run going, build a bit of momentum which we've not done all season.
"Our away form has not been up to scratch but we've seen signs of encouragement. We should have got something at Reading and Blackburn.
"Tottenham are a good team but if we can go there and handle it, hopefully we'll get a positive result."
Spurs are the Premier League's top-scorers at home and Keane, who followed the London club as a youngster, knows his defenders will have to be at their best.
"They are good going forward, they have a lot of quality," he said. "But if we can keep them out, I fancy us to cause them problems at the other end."
Sunderland, who would do the double over Tottenham with victory tomorrow, have not won a top-flight game at White Hart Lane since 1969.
They won 3-2 at White Hart Lane in 1978 In Division Two and again in the League Cup in 1984.
Sunderland are without Ross Wallace (knee), Grant Leadbitter (toe), Dickson Etuhu (international duty), Danny Higginbotham (toe) and Carlos Edwards (leg).
Kenwyne Jones and Dean Whitehead have recovered from knocks and should play.
Tottenham 2-0 Sunderland
By Sam Lyon
Robbie Keane's 100th goal for the club sealed a fourth straight home victory for Spurs as they held off a spirited display from strugglers Sunderland.
Aaron Lennon poked in Jamie O'Hara's cross on two minutes and Jermain Defoe and Dimitar Berbatov forced fine saves from Craig Gordon as Spurs dominated.
The hosts should have been cruising at half-time, but Liam Miller and Kenwyne Jones went close as Sunderland rallied.
It proved futile, though, as Keane strode through to wrap it up late on.
It was a cruel finish for Black Cats boss Roy Keane, who will wonder how his side left White Hart Lane with nothing after a determined second-half performance.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7184825.stm)
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's loss to Tottenham:
"We felt we did okay but we gave away two shocking goals. It was disappointing because in the second half in particular we caused them problems.
"When you give goals away like that away from home it's very, very hard.
"They were causing us one or two problems so we changed it to 4-4-2 [formation] and we came back into it. We looked strong in the second half and it looked like we would at least get an equaliser.
"We gave away a bad goal right at the end and it made it an even worse. We weren't able to defend properly.
"It's not about bad luck. You make your own luck and if you defend like we did - especially in the first two minutes, defenders taking too much time on the ball and trying tricks - it's not unlucky.
"We just didn't do enough. We had a good result last week and it was important we tried to build on it, especially with Tottenham making one or two changes, but we made it very hard for ourselves as we have done on many occasions away from home this season.
"We're in with a massive battle and we'll have to get on with it and roll up our sleeves.
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"We've got to lick our wounds and get ready for a big battle against Birmingham."
Full Reaction (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14024&fixture=2848335&t=4)
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=33314.0)
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Sunderland - Birmingham Pre-Match
29th January 2008
By Nick Alexander
Phil Bardsley is set to make his Sunderland debut against Birmingham City tonight - and in doing so become the club's 900th player.
Right-back Bardsley signed for the Black Cats from Manchester United last week in a £2m deal.
Another January signing, Rade Prica, the Sweden international, will also feature in what is a hugely important game. It remains to be seen whether the striker is in the starting line up or on the bench.
The next player to make his debut will write his name into the SAFC record books as the club's 900th player. Julio Arca and Emerson Thome share the honour of being the club's 800th footballer.
Skipper Dean Whitehead will make his 50th Premier League appearance tonight.
Striker Michael Chopra is missing through suspension and Ross Wallace, Carlos Edwards, Kieran Richardson, Danny Higginbotham and Grant Leadbitter are still injured.
Dickson Etuhu is on African Cup of Nations duty with Nigeria.
Sunderland 2-0 Birmingham
By Sam Lyon
Sunderland debutant Rade Prica climbed off the bench to help his new side seal a vital victory over fellow relegation strugglers Birmingham City.
In a typically hard-fought game, Daryl Murphy opened the scoring with a neat finish from Kenwyne Jones's knock-down.
Cameron Jerome should have equalised when his shot on the break was saved, but City offered little else in attack.
And Prica wrapped it up when he latched on to Liam Ridgewell's mistake, lifting the Black Cats out of the bottom three.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7210578.stm)
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's win over Birmingham
"I don't think the performance was great - the big plus was getting a result without playing well. It was a good, professional performance.
"Every victory is important and the players have got to enjoy it, they worked their socks off. We've got to try to beat the other teams at the bottom, especially at home.
"We've been doing OK, we're heading in the right direction.
"Yorkie got injured and had to come at at half-time, it disrupted us. He will be out for Saturday.
"Every game provides a different test and we got a victory and a clean sheet. I thought we were unlucky to have a third [goal] disallowed.
"I'm delighted for Bardo. You've got to tackle people in this game and he did that well.
"I was tempted to start Prica but I thought it would be unfair. We had to change it because of an injury to Yorkie and he came on and did well - and scored a goal.
"He took the goal very well, he anticipated it, he had that instinct and then he had the ability to finish it.
"The priority is where we are in the league May, not tonight.
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"We've got to beat the teams around us and that will dictate our season. We've got Liverpool and then Wigan, more big games.
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Full Reaction (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14080&fixture=2848443&t=4)
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=33540.0)
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Standings as of 31st of January
| Position | Team | Played | Goal Dif | Points |
| 11 | Tottenham | 24 | 4 | 28 |
| 12 | Middlesboro | 24 | -16 | 25 |
| 13 | Newcastle | 24 | -15 | 24 |
| 14 | Sunderland | 24 | -18 | 23 |
| 15 | Bolton | 24 | -10 | 22 |
| 16 | Reading | 24 | -20 | 22 |
| 17 | Birmingham | 24 | -13 | 20 |
| 18 | Wigan | 24 | -17 | 20 |
| 19 | Fulham | 24 | -19 | 16 |
| 20 | Derby | 24 | -39 | 8 |
February Fixtures
| Team | GW 25 | GW 26 | GW 27 | GW 28 |
| Tottenham | (H)Man U - D | (A)Derby - W | (H)Arsenal - PP | (A)Birmingham - L |
| Newcastle | (H)Boro - D | (A)Villa - L | (H)Man U - L | (H)Blackburn - L |
| Boro | (A)Newcas - D | (H)Fulham - W | (A)Liverpool - L | (H)Reading - L |
| Sunlun | (A)Liverpool - L | (H)Wigan - W | (A)Portsmouth - L | (A)Derby-D |
| Bolton | (A)Reading - W | (H)Portsmouth - L | (A)Blackburn - L | (H)Liverpool-L |
| Reading | (H)Bolton - L | (A)Everton - L | (H)Aston Villa - L | (A)Middlesboro - W |
| Birmingham | (H)Derby - D | (A)West Ham - D | (H)Arsenal - D | (H)Tottenham - W |
| Wigan | (H)West Ham - W | (A)Sunlun - L | (H)Derby - W | (A)Man. City - D |
| Fulham | (H)Aston Villa - W | (A)Middlesboro - L | (H)West Ham - L | (H)Man U - L |
| Derby | (A)Birmingham - D | (H)Tottenham - L | (A)Wigan - L | (H)Sunlun - D |
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Liverpool - Sunderland Pre-MAtch
2nd February 2008
Kieran Richardson could make a return from injury at Anfield tomorrow.
Richardson, the former Manchester United player, has missed the last two games with a hamstring injury.
But the midfielder has a chance of being in the squad as Sunderland look to halt a run of eight successive away defeats.
Richardson was in good form before he suffered the injury in training, having scored three goals in five games after returning from a previous injury.
Sunderland lost 2-0 at home to Liverpool in August
New signing Andy Reid will not be involved and the game comes too soon for Carlos Edwards (broken leg), Grant Leadbitter (toe) and Dwight Yorke (calf).
Danny Higginbotham (toe) and Ross Wallace (knee) remain on the long-term injury list while Dickson Etuhu is still involved in the African Cup of Nations.
Michael Chopra is available after serving a one-game ban and Liverpool's Javier Mascherano will return from suspension.
Liverpool 3-0 Sunderland
By David Ornstein
Goals from Peter Crouch, Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard secured Liverpool's first Premier League win since Boxing Day.
The hosts, who had the better of a woeful first half, took the lead when Crouch headed Jamie Carragher's cross past Craig Gordan in Sunderland's goal.
Torres added a second when he collected Crouch's flick and drilled home.
Sunderland had two penalty shouts turned down before Liverpool were awarded one, which Gerrard dispatched.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7210604.stm)
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's loss to Liverpool:
"Three-nil was a bit harsh on the players, we like to think it was a bit closer than that but that's the scoreline and we've got to accept it.
"We did okay in terms of possession, but we didn't really test their keeper.
"We knew the first 10 or 15 minutes of the second half was going to be vital and once Liverpool got their goal, it was always going to be hard for us.
"From my point of view, we should have had a penalty but I don't think we were ever going to get one.
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"We did okay in terms of possesion without really testing their keeper. We had a couple of penalty shouts and a half-chance from a corner.
"we needed to do a bit more I have to say. We did Ok but we still lost 3-0.
"I don't think the strikers got great service and the injury to Kieran Richardson certainly didn't help after two minutes.
"At 2-0, we were still bombing forward and they picked us off.
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Full Reaction (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14113&fixture=2848488&t=4)
Full Match (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=33634.0)
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Sunderland-Wigan Pre-Match
9th February 2008 15:00
By Nick Alexander
Sunderland return to Premier League action tomorrow looking to avoid an unwanted hat-trick.
Roy Keane's Black Cats take on fellow strugglers Wigan at the Stadium of Light and Keane knows it will be a tough game.
Wigan, managed by Steve Bruce, have already beaten Sunderland twice this season, once in the league and once in the FA Cup.
Keane joked: "It's not a must-win game, is it? In all seriousness, we're looking forward to it. Our results against them have not been good and I'm hoping to see a vastly improved performance. I'd like to think we can't play any worse than the last time we met them.
"I wouldn't expect us to perform anywhere as near badly as we did against them in the Cup. We've played them twice this season, conceded six and scored none, I hope that changes.
wigan Sunderland lost 3-0 at the JJB Stadium in August
"They are a tough side, very physical and it will be a tough game. But our home form of late has been good and with our fans behind us I hope we can cause them problems.
"It's our home form that has given us a chance of remaining in the Premier League."
Sunderland are expecting a crowd in the region of 42,000 for the visit of the Latics.
It is another impressive attendance and Keane has again praised the club's fans.
He said: "The fans have been very supportive of the players and we appreciate that, we want to give them a good performance.
"The fans have been fantastic this season, there's no getting away from that."
Sunderland 2-0 Wigan
By David Ornstein
Goals in each half from Dickson Etuhu and Daryl Murphy secured Sunderland's fourth consecutive home win and left Wigan teetering above the bottom three.
What had been a dreadful opening half came to life when an unmarked Etuhu headed in Dean Whitehead's free-kick.
Wigan piled on the pressure after the break and a Kevin Kilbane shot hit the post before Emile Heskey's header came back off the crossbar.
And Murphy made them pay when he rifled a 25-yard strike in off the bar.
The Republic of Ireland international collected a superb pass from substitute Andy Reid before stepping in from the right and unleashing an unstoppable left-foot drive.
The result was harsh on Wigan, who dominated the second half but came away with nothing and are now just a point outside the relegation zone.
Sunderland leapfrog Wigan and Bolton into 14th and lie two points behind their north-east rivals Newcastle.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7223968.stm)
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's win over Wigan
"We'll see how important this win is at the end of the season. It was a tough game. Wigan made it hard for us and we rode our luck a little bit but I think we earned that bit of luck.
"We got two good goals and a clean sheet, so we're fairly happy
"We've been tested by injuries but people are sick of hearing that. The players showed good character today. If you want to play for this football club, character is top of the list.
"There are big pressures playing for Sunderland, it's a big football club - nearly forty-four thousand today, that's brilliant.
"I can't praise the players enough. We've had our set-backs this season but they have kept going and it was a tough game today.
"Wigan are a big, strong team and their set-pieces are good, I'm sure Steve Bruce might feel they are unlucky today.
"Our second goal was worthy of winning any game, it was an outstanding strike. Over the last four or five weeks, Murphy has been one of our better players, he's a talented boy.
"The league is our priority but I'd love to be playing in the FA Cup next weekend. I spoke after Wigan beat us in the Cup and I felt quite embarrassed - but the players have moved on.
"Four wins in a row at home has given us a chance. We're still working on our away form!
"Andy Reid has got quality. We need to work on his fitness, he's not played for a while. He showed his quality in one glimpse. We've now got two weeks to try to get him a bit fitter and sharper.
"We knew it would be tough for Kenwyne after his long journey but he put in a good shift.
"We've just got to keep getting positive results and the table will take care of itself. Hopefully in a couple of weeks' time the squad will be stronger."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=33753.0)
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Portsmouth-Sunderland Pre-Match
By Martin Walker
Andy Reid has a chance of starting against Portsmouth at Fratton Park tomorrow.
The Republic of Ireland international, signed from Charlton in a £4m deal during the January transfer window, made his debut in the 2-0 win over Wigan at the Stadium of Light a fortnight ago.
Within minutes of coming on, the tricky winger played an inch-perfect pass for Daryl Murphy before his fellow Irishman unleashed his thundering effort.
And now Reid has had two weeks' full training under his belt, Roy Keane says he has every chance of making the starting XI against Pompey.
The Sunderland boss said: "Andy is a quality player and that's why we brought him to the club. He offers us something a little extra that we perhaps didn't have in the squad previously.
"But obviously, it's now about getting him fully fit.
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"Dwight Yorke is also back in full training. He has trained well and he comes back into contention."
Sunderland are without Kieran Richardson (hamstring), Carlos Edward (broken leg), Liam Miller (calf) and Danny Higginbotham (broken toe) for the trip to the South coast.
Harry Redknapp, meanwhile, is boosted with six players who weren't available to him six weeks ago when the Black Cats won 2-0 at the Stadium of Light.
He was missing four key players due to the African Cup of Nations that day - midfielders Papa Bouba Diop and Sulley Muntari as well as strikers Kanu and John Utaka - and have added Jermain Defo and Lassana Diarra to their squad since.
Full Article (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14254&fixture=2848707&t=1)
Portsmouth 1-0 Sunderland
By Sam Lyon
Jermain Defoe's late penalty earned Portsmouth only their fourth home win this season as Sunderland's miserable away form continued at Fratton Park.
An abysmal first half was typified by poor passing and scrappy play, and a Sulley Muntari shot that flew over was the closest either side came to a goal.
Sunderland were holding their own, though, until Phil Bardsley felled Nico Kranjcar and Defoe scored the penalty.
Grant Leadbitter had Sunderland's best chances but Pompey comfortably held on.
Portsmouth marked manager Harry Redknapp's 100th match in charge with a win that ensures their European push remains on track.
Sunderland have now lost their last 10 matches away from the Stadium of Light.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7248364.stm)
Roy Keane's post-match reaction to today's defeat at Portsmouth:
That's the Premier League, one mistake and you're punished.
Having said that, I'm disappointed in terms of us going forward. We never, ever looked like scoring. David James has probably had the easiest game of his career, I don't think Portsmouth needed a goalkeeper today.
I've not seen it (the penalty) but it doesn't really matter what I think. The referee has given it and we have to accept it.
I would have taken the point, but in this game you've got to do a bit more going forward. Even when we went a goal behind, we never looked like scoring.
I think one or two of our players came with their autograph books today, which I don't like to see. I think they were maybe over-awed by Portsmouth, and by one or two of their players, and that's unacceptable, I have to say.
We've got to learn as a team that even on an off-day like today, particularly in terms of going forward, you have to grind out a point. And we've not been able to do that - the amount of games we've lost is unacceptable.
You're going to have your off days. But you'll find that the better teams will find the results. Lots of games this season we've thought the referees' decisions have been harsh, but we can't be the victims all the time.
It can't be what if's all the time, because Sunderland have had that for far too many years and I'm trying to change that, I'm trying to change the mentality. We had the same at Blackburn - we conceded a penalty and ended up losing the game - and all these things add up.
We'll learn the hard way because we've lost too many games now, far too many games.
If you told me at the start of the season I'd lose this many games at this stage of the season, I'd probably be surprised. We should have picked up a few more draws, and I do believe we've deserved more, but not today.
You've got to bring something to the party and today we've not done enough, particularly going forward. We had absolutely nothing going forward. We had two or three thousand fans behind the goal and we have to give them something to shout about - today we'd have taken a point, ground it out, but you've got to bring something to the game and we didn't today.
Portsmouth have nicked a result and credit to them for that - that's what good teams do.
Every game is a big game for me. We don't treat any game differently. We go to Derby next week and, with our away record, we shouldn't be getting our hopes up too much.
But we've got to keep believing and we have to go there with the right attitude.
Full Reaction (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14254&fixture=2848707&t=4)
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34053.0)
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Keane tells five Sunderland players to look for new clubs
Belfast Telegraph
Wednesday, February 27, 2008
Sunderland boss Roy Keane will not allow sentiment to cloud his judgment as he builds for the future.
The Black Cats today placed 27-year-old former Celtic and Manchester United midfielder Liam Miller on the transfer list as Keane prepared for another summer recruitment drive.
Miller was one of six men drafted in by the Irishman within days of his appointment in August 2006 and has now joined four other members of that sextet in being told he is surplus to requirements.
Only 36-year-old Dwight Yorke remains part of Keane's plans, and his current contract runs out at the end of the season.
Ross Wallace, David Connolly, Graham Kavanagh and Stanislav Varga, who arrived at the Stadium of Light along with Miller and Yorke on transfer deadline day that season, have all been told they can look for new clubs, along with later arrivals Greg Halford and Ian Harte.
Full-back Stephen Wright, a survivor of the Peter Reid era, is also available, while Andy Cole will see out the remainder of his contract on loan at Burnley.
Kavanagh, Halford and Varga are also currently also out on temporary deals at Sheffield Wednesday, Charlton and Burnley, although Miller could only join a Football League club on an emergency loan deal before securing a permanent switch at the end of the season.
He has made 21 senior appearances this season, 14 of them in the starting line-up, and scored one goal, a late equaliser in the 2-2 derby draw at Middlesbrough.
The Republic of Ireland international is currently recovering from a calf injury and had been pencilled in for a possible return in the reserves this evening.
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this should be ah cake walk fuh keane and co. with jones gettin on de scoreboard about 2 times.
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this should be ah cake walk fuh keane and co. with jones gettin on de scoreboard about 2 times.
haha ... a walk in the park for sunderland? no such thing
i expect a tight 1-0 win for sunderland... hopefully jones
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this should be ah cake walk fuh keane and co. with jones gettin on de scoreboard about 2 times.
haha ... a walk in the park for sunderland? no such thing
i expect a tight 1-0 win for sunderland... hopefully jones
i tink they could pump about 3 or 4 in they ass.
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this should be ah cake walk fuh keane and co. with jones gettin on de scoreboard about 2 times.
haha ... a walk in the park for sunderland? no such thing
i expect a tight 1-0 win for sunderland... hopefully jones
i tink they could pump about 3 or 4 in they ass.
i hope you are right... but i doubt it..
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2 - 0 for SAFC
Jones and Miller :devil:
Derby v Sunderland
Pride Park
Saturday, 1 March
Kick-off: 1500 GMT
BBC coverage: Live on the BBC Sport website, BBC Radio Five Live, highlights on Match of the Day and full commentary on BBC Radio Derby.
Derby County midfielder Giles Barnes has been ruled out after sustaining a knee injury in training.
Dean Leacock faces a late fitness test on a hip problem, but Claude Davis and Tyrone Mears are both still missing.
Sunderland will be without suspended defender Danny Collins for the trip to Pride Park, but Danny Higginbotham is back in contention after a toe injury.
Kieran Richardson is 50-50 with his hamstring injury and Liam Miller could play despite being transfer-listed.
Interview: Derby County manager Paul Jewell
Derby (from): Carroll, Leacock, Moore, Todd, Stubbs, McEveley, Lewis, Edworthy, Savage, Fagan, Pearson, Jones, Miller, Earnshaw, Ghaly, Villa, Robert, Price, Sterjovski.
Sunderland (from): Gordon, Fulop, Bardsley, McShane, Evans, Higginbotham, Harte, Whitehead, Etuhu, Reid, Leadbitter, Miller, Richardson, O'Donovan, Jones, Waghorn, Murphy, Stokes, Chopra, Prica.
Derby manager Paul Jewell on reports that he had instilled a boot camp mentality during training this week:
"I'm sure there are lots of managers up and down the country who have had their teams in earlier than my team so it's no boot camp, that's a load of nonsense.
"It's a fantastic training facility and they've worked a little bit harder than usual, that's all they've done.
"There's been one double session but that was because I had a coaching clinic in the afternoon, there's no ulterior motive."
Sunderland boss Roy Keane:
"If you put yourself in their shoes, they'll think, 'If ever we can get a win, it will be playing Sunderland with their away form'.
"A couple of months ago, we beat them with an injury-time winner, so it's not as if we're a lot stronger than them.
"It was a very tough game and I think it'll be the same on Saturday."
BIG-MATCH FACTS
Derby take on Sunderland eager to end the longest winless league run in their history and equally keen to avoid inheriting one of Sunderland's most unwanted records.
A sequence of 21 league games without victory has left the Rams marooned 10 points adrift of everyone else and 14 points from safety. They have 11 games to earn the seven points needed to avoid officially becoming the worst side in Premier League history. Sunderland currently have that dubious honour, with 15 points in 2005-06. The Rams are one point behind the Wearsiders' total at this identical stage.
Paul Jewell is still seeking a first league win as Derby manager, having begun his career at Sunderland 13 games ago.
Sunderland stand four points above the relegation zone, but have lost more away matches than any other club in the highest league (12) and have the worst record with just two points out of 42. Even Derby have more (three points).
The Rams have scored half as many league goals as Sunderland (13 to 26), but the Wearsiders have lost their last 10 on the road.
The Black Cats have not lost to a Midlands club this season (two wins, two draws).
The reverse fixture brought heartache for Derby as Sunderland substitute Anthony Stokes scored in stoppage time, when his own header rebounded to him having been saved by goalkeeper Stephen Bywater.
CLUB FORM
DERBY COUNTY
Highest achievable after Saturday's matches: 20th
Lowest could fall: 20th
All statistics and sequences refer to the Premier League only, unless otherwise stated.
1. Gone 24 without a win in all competitions, although the FA Cup third round replay against Sheffield Wednesday at Hillsborough on 22 January was won on penalties.
2. Drawn five and lost 16 of 21 games (three points out of 63) since their solitary victory; 1-0 over Newcastle at Pride Park on 17 September.
3. One victory, 20 losses, 72 points dropped, 13 goals scored at one every 187 minutes (three hours seven minutes) on average and 57 conceded at one every 43 minutes on average; the worst returns in all five categories.
4. Managed just two clean sheets, failed to score in 16, netted first in seven and allowed the opposition to open the scoring in 19; also the worst records on all four counts.
5. Used more players than any other club (34).
6. Drawn three and lost 10 of 13 under Paul Jewell.
7. Striving for a first home win in 11 (two points out of 30).
8. Beaten nine times at Pride Park. Reading are the next heaviest home losers (seven).
9. The next two games are away to Chelsea and home to Manchester United, before a visit to Middlesbrough and a clash with Fulham at Pride Park.
SUNDERLAND
Highest achievable after Saturday's matches: 12th
Lowest could fall: 16th
All statistics and sequences refer to the Premier League only, unless otherwise stated.
1. Alternated between defeat (without scoring), and victory in nine. Must win to continue that pattern.
2. Averaging a goal a game (26 in 26).
3. Completed 43 league games without a goalless draw; the most recent being home to Crystal Palace on 30 January 2007 in the Championship. Their last in the Premier League was against Manchester United at Old Trafford on 14 April 2006.
4. Drawn five matches; only Manchester United and Reading have finished level less often (four each).
5. One of two clubs with a 100% record when a clean sheet is kept; won five of five.
6. The highest placed of four clubs without an away win.
7. Gained just two points on the road from draws at Birmingham (15 August) and Middlesbrough (22 September). Not enjoyed an away league victory since winning 0-5 at Luton in the Championship on 6 May last year. Not won in 23 away Premier League matches since a 0-1 victory over West Bromwich at the Hawthorns on 21 January 2006 - their only maximum in 29.
8. Not scored in four away games or 368 minutes (six hours eight minutes) since Michael Chopra's penalty in the 2-1 loss at Reading on 22 December. Not scored from open play away from home in six games since Dwight Yorke's goal in the 7-1 thrashing by Everton at Goodison Park on 24 November. Also, not managed a clean sheet away from the Stadium of Light this term, nor in 16 away in this league since a goalless draw with Manchester United at Old Trafford on 14 April 2006.
9. Picked up 24 of their 26 points this season on home territory; 22 points is the widest such disparity. Also, conceded 20 more goals on the road than at home (13 at the Stadium of Light, 33 on their travels).
10. Host Everton, then Chelsea next, before travelling to Aston Villa and entertaining West Ham.
KEY PLAYER NOTES
DERBY COUNTY
Kenny MILLER is Derby's top scorer with five goals.
MILLER and Matt OAKLEY are the clubs' joint top marksmen in the Premier League, with three each.
There are only eight players on Derby's Premier League goalscorers chart, and all but one are either English, Scottish or Welsh.
If selected:-
Laurent ROBERT will be making his 150th career Premier League appearance (Newcastle, Portsmouth and Derby).
Alan STUBBS will be facing a former club. The 36 year old defender made 11 appearances (10 in the league) and scored one league goal for Sunderland between August 2005 and January 2006.
SUNDERLAND
Kenwyne JONES is Sunderland's top scorer with five Premier League goals.
Michael CHOPRA is a double shy of 50 career league goals (Newcastle, Watford, Barnsley, Cardiff and Sunderland).
Last season's top scorer David CONNOLLY needs one goal to total 100 in his league career (Watford, Wolves, Wimbledon, West Ham, Leicester, Wigan and Sunderland).
If selected:-
Dwight YORKE will be making his 450th English League appearance (Aston Villa, Manchester United, Blackburn, Birmingham and Sunderland).
YORKE will also be making his 50th league appearance for the Black Cats.
Danny COLLINS will be making his 50th career Premier League appearance.
Danny HIGGINBOTHAM will be facing a former club. The 29 year old defender made 98 appearances (86 in the league) and scored four goals (three league) for Derby between July 2000 and January 2003.
HEAD TO HEAD
Sunderland did the double over Derby when they last met in the Championship last season, but they have not managed it in the Premier League.
The Black Cats last won home and away against the Rams in top-flight football in 1951-52.
Home and away
League (inc PL): Derby 46 wins, Sunderland 56, Draws 25
Prem: Derby 2 wins, Sunderland 5, Draws 2
at Derby only
League (inc PL): Derby 34 wins, Sunderland 15, Draws 14
Prem: Derby 2 wins, Sunderland 2, Draws 0
THIS SEASON'S REVERSE FIXTURE
Sunderland 1-0 Derby County
1 December 2007 - Ref: Mark Halsey
Sunderland scorer: Stokes 90
REFEREE
Mike Riley (Leeds, Yorkshire)
Story from BBC SPORT:http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7260381.stm
Published: 2008/02/28 14:39:22 GMT
© BBC MMVIII
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if KJ doesn't score he should be benched for the rest of the season...this man strike rate is abysmal
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if KJ doesn't score he should be benched for the rest of the season...this man strike rate is abysmal
Put on yuh hardhat cyber clout coming.
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this should be ah cake walk fuh keane and co. with jones gettin on de scoreboard about 2 times.
Keane himself said the fact they could only get an injury time goal in the home leg was proof they weren't that much better than Derby.
Sunderland without Edwards and possibly without Richardson putting 3 goals past any team away from home would be an exploit
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if KJ doesn't score he should be benched for the rest of the season...this man strike rate is abysmal
Put on yuh hardhat cyber clout coming.
Fish's....is arrow...
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if KJ doesn't score he should be benched for the rest of the season...this man strike rate is abysmal
Put on yuh hardhat cyber clout coming.
Fish's....is arrow...
cyber clout still coming...man here too new to appreciate arrow's wit.
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any p2p links for this one?
BTW. Hit Truetrini and Arrow ah clout. if not, just for sports.
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heres a radio link but its on tvants I can never get it to work
http://www.centuryradiofm.com/listenlive/northeast/
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heres a radio link but its on tvants I can never get it to work
http://www.centuryradiofm.com/listenlive/northeast/
Kev, could not get yours to work
but got this to work
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
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http://asiaplatetv.com/group_e3.htm links here
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TV ants playing de arse
it says my software has expired and sent me to a chinese site that have no engrish
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from yahoo matchcast:
54' Now Jones is clutching his face after Moore pulled his dreads as they challenged for the high ball.
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from yahoo matchcast:
54' Now Jones is clutching his face after Moore pulled his dreads as they challenged for the high ball.
wha wrong wid men who want to play wid dreads
heh heh heh, who go bite? addendum: arrow, did I do good ;D
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whats the end result???
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Sunderland 0 - Derby 0 :o
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Thanks elan. Disapointing.
How did KJ perform, I wonder...
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Take a read here Cocorite.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=220515&cc=5901
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Thanks again Elan; Looks like they were robbed of a winning goal.
Anyway, now they really have to tighten up in the back and score some goals.. Enter CARLOS. . .
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Sunderland sucks!!
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Drogba? Anyone? ;D
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Sounds like a game they could've won. Pity.
They have made things extremely difficult for themselves Everton in a week, Chelsea the weekend after, Aston Villa away the weekend after, West Ham the weekend after. April was always going to be a very tough month for the Black Cats. They're going to be lucky to get even one point out of these four games.
Carlos, Kieran. We need you back and operational real quick :'(
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Sunderbland...
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Sunderbland...
Thank you for your continued support.
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Sunderbland...
Thank you for your continued support.
You'd swear you have shares in dat shit squad de way yuh does take criticism of de team personally. I juss doh let emotion color my pragmatism...dai'z all.
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Sunderbland...
Thank you for your continued support.
You'd swear you have shares in dat shit squad de way yuh does take criticism of de team personally. I juss doh let emotion color my pragmatism...dai'z all.
You'd swear you does get a bonus for every reply you make the way you always looking for back and forth on here ::)
1)I never said Sunderland is a bomb squad. I happen to have no other reason to follow a league I have absolutely zero possibility of seeing regularly. Until further notice, and for this reason I am and remain a Sunderland supporter, in my own fashion/
2) If you want a case of emotion coloring your pragmatism refer to bossofallbosses post at the beginning of the thread.
3) If you interpret "thank you for your continued support" as an emotional interpretation of personal criticism what I could tell yuh dread? Take win...
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You'd swear you does get a bonus for every reply you make the way you always looking for back and forth on here ::)
Wait...Ms. Cleo is yuh mudda or yuh gyul, which one? You have tuh be ah mind reader to know what I "looking for" when I post
1)I never said Sunderland is a bomb squad. I happen to have no other reason to follow a league I have absolutely zero possibility of seeing regularly. Until further notice, and for this reason I am and remain a Sunderland supporter, in my own fashion/
2) If you want a case of emotion coloring your pragmatism refer to bossofallbosses post at the beginning of the thread.
3) If you interpret "thank you for your continued support" as an emotional interpretation of personal criticism what I could tell yuh dread? Take win...
All dis life story you feeding mankind about what you say from what yuh never say...me eh aks you all dat dred. All I know is from jump once man start criticising Blunderland you does get defensive about de team. Me eh even have tuh spend time convincing yuh of that b/c de evidence all over de place.
...and RIF, "I juss doh let emotion color my pragmatism...dai'z all." Nobody accuse yuh of no emotional interpretation of nutten either fella, that's your problem, you insist man on here throwing talk fuh yuh.
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Drogba? Anyone? ;D
Palos, ya milkin dis ting eh ;D ;D
"Redknapp says he see similarities between Jones and Chelsea striker Drogba, with both men possessing the ability to terrorise defences."
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Im a strong sunderland supporter from two seasons ago , but this time around they need to rid the team of some serious ded weight , like choppra , white head, higginbottom and leadbitter , those guys are a liability. i never saw such a boring game in all my football viewing days.
whitehead don't know how to kick free kicks but he's always there to take em # 1 , and can't pass to save his ass , choppra is as slow as a doggone turtle and with no dribbling skills whatsoever, he cant even run pass the mids when in possesion on the flank.
leadbitter can't take a good shot if his kids lives deppend on it. and higginbottom, nearly cost the team had it not been for evans to bail him out ,thank god collins comming back next week GW. sunlun have every thing they need except a mid field, and oh yeh, a strike partener for jonesy. positive.
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You'd swear you does get a bonus for every reply you make the way you always looking for back and forth on here ::)
Wait...Ms. Cleo is yuh mudda or yuh gyul, which one? You have tuh be ah mind reader to know what I "looking for" when I post
1)I never said Sunderland is a bomb squad. I happen to have no other reason to follow a league I have absolutely zero possibility of seeing regularly. Until further notice, and for this reason I am and remain a Sunderland supporter, in my own fashion/
2) If you want a case of emotion coloring your pragmatism refer to bossofallbosses post at the beginning of the thread.
3) If you interpret "thank you for your continued support" as an emotional interpretation of personal criticism what I could tell yuh dread? Take win...
All dis life story you feeding mankind about what you say from what yuh never say...me eh aks you all dat dred. All I know is from jump once man start criticising Blunderland you does get defensive about de team. Me eh even have tuh spend time convincing yuh of that b/c de evidence all over de place.
...and RIF, "I juss doh let emotion color my pragmatism...dai'z all." Nobody accuse yuh of no emotional interpretation of nutten either fella, that's your problem, you insist man on here throwing talk fuh yuh.
NEXT
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Dey tryin tuh win wit Championship type players! Roy buy sh!t and taught he cudda make a nice Sunday lunch wit dat sh!t but sh!t is still sh!t! Yuh doh buy players from other Championship teams and keep most of the players dat bring yuh up! And people need tuh start gettin realistic about Carlos the 'savior', he aint play enough games tuh know if he cud handle playin in the EPL farless 'save' dat
sh!tty team!
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Pre-Match
Sunderland are without suspended left-back Danny Collins for the trip to Pride Park.
But the club's other Danny, Higginbotham, is fit after a toe injury and could slot into Roy Keane's team in the full-back position, where he has played before.
Kieran Richardson is set to return to the side after two-game absence with a hamstring strain and Liam Miller could feature despite being transfer-listed.
Keane will ask his players to improve on last weekend's performance at Portsmouth, when they lost for the 10th successive time away from home.
He said: "As long as I'm manager of the club, I do expect the team to at least have a go, especially when you go a goal down, that disappointed me last weekend.
"In life you have to have a go. We didn't give our supporters anything to shout about. We hope to cause more problems this weekend, in terms of going forward."
Goalkeeper Darren Ward is injured so Marton Fulop, recalled from a loan spell at Stoke this week, will deputise for Craig Gordon. Carlos Edwards, Ross Wallace and Roy O'Donovan remain sidelined.
Full Article (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14308&fixture=2848777&t=1)
Derby 0-0 Sunderland
By Chris Whyatt
Sunderland failed to register their first away win of the season thanks to a contentious offside decision which ruled out Michael Chopra's finish.
Andy Reid crossed low from the left for Chopra to sidefoot past Derby keeper Roy Carroll on 38 minutes but referee Mike Riley disallowed his effort.
Moments later Derby captain Alan Stubbs nearly backheeled into his own goal.
Derby battled hard with Kenny Miller lively but are still searching for their first win under Paul Jewell.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7260381.stm)
http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14308&fixture=2848777&t=4
"It was a game we should have won. It wasn't a classic but we had the better chances.
"We did score and it was taken out of our hands by the official, it was onside. I'm not going down the road of luck, you make your own luck. It was two points dropped no doubt, we didn't take our chances.
"We had opportunities - Chopra had a great chance with a header, Danny [Higginbotham] had one with two or three minutes to go, he probably should have scored from there.
"There was no doubting the effort, we just lacked a bit of quality in the last third, especially in the second half.
"Goals change matches and we didn't score when we had the chances and we ended up huffing and puffing.
"They are all important games, they are all critical and there will be plenty of ups and downs to come.
"It was a strange scenario for us today because the expectation was on us to win, but we knew it would be tough and it would have been a great help to score early. They had something to hold on to and they kept battling and fighting.
"When the game was 0-0 all you needed was one mistake and you could lose it. I'm not satisfied with a draw, far from it, but we kept a clean sheet
"The hardest part in any game is putting the ball in the back of the net and we didn't do it. Our away record suggests we have not had enough quality.
"The game was stop-start and it suited Derby, that's no disrespect to them. It was not a classic - I don t think it'll be the main game on the telly tonight.
"If you watched it as a neutral, I'm not sure you'd know which team was adrift at the bottom.
"I expect this [relegation] battle to go right to the end. We've got to stay strong and keep believing, we're in there fighting.
"We'd like to be further up the table but I'm sure if you said the same to Steve Coppell or Kevin Keegan - or any manager near the bottom - we'd all have a few hard luck stories like us today.
"At this level you just need that bit of quality. You expect everyone to battle away, you need the quality to win games."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34202.0)
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I was reading the pre-match report for the Derby game and it mentioned that it was going to be Dwight's 50 game with Sunderland.
my how time flies when we are having fun.
I think that it is an accomplishment. :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
"YORKE will also be making his 50th league appearance for the Black Cats."
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34202.msg399725#msg399725
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I was reading the pre-match report for the Derby game and it mentioned that it was going to be Dwight's 50 game with Sunderland.
my how time flies when we are having fun.
I think that it is an accomplishment. :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
"YORKE will also be making his 50th league appearance for the Black Cats."
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34202.msg399725#msg399725
lol, except that he didn't play
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I was reading the pre-match report for the Derby game and it mentioned that it was going to be Dwight's 50 game with Sunderland.
my how time flies when we are having fun.
I think that it is an accomplishment. :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
"YORKE will also be making his 50th league appearance for the Black Cats."
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34202.msg399725#msg399725
lol, except that he didn't play
I woke up late and caught the last few minutes of the game and completly MISSED that very important point
Thanks MidKnight :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
that possibility did not even occour to me, that he would sit out ;D ;)
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Standings as of 3rd of March
| Position | Team | Played | Goal Dif | Points |
| 11 | Tottenham | 27 | 4 | 32 |
| 12 | Middlesboro | 28 | -17 | 29 |
| 13 | Newcastle | 28 | -23 | 28 |
| 14 | Wigan | 28 | -16 | 27 |
| 15 | Sunderland | 28 | -20 | 27 |
| 16 | Birmingham | 28 | -10 | 26 |
| 17 | Bolton | 28 | -14 | 25 |
| 18 | Reading | 28 | -23 | 25 |
| 19 | Fulham | 28 | -23 | 19 |
| 20 | Derby | 28 | -44 | 10 |
March Fixtures
| Team | GW 29 | GW 30 | GW 31 | GW 32 |
| Tottenham | (H)West Ham-W | (A)Man City-L/(H)Chelsea-D | (H)Portsmouth-W | (H) Newcastle-L |
| Newcastle | (A)Liverpool-L | (A)Birmingham-D | (H)Fulham-W | (A)Tottenham-W |
| Boro | (A)Aston Villa-D | (A)Arsenal-D | (H)Derby-W | (A)Chelsea-L |
| Sunlun | (H)Everton-L | (H)Chelsea-L | (A)Aston Villa-W | (H)West Ham-W |
| Bolton | (A)Wigan-L | (A)Man U-L | (H)Man City-D | (H)Arsenal-L |
| Reading | (H)Man City-W | (A)Liverpool-L | (H)Birmingham-W | (H)Blackburn-D |
| Birmingham | (A)Portsmouth-L | (H)Newcastle-D | (A)Reading-L | (H)Man City-W |
| Wigan | (H)Arsenal-D | (H)Bolton-W | (A)Blackburn-L | (A)Portsmouth-L |
| Fulham | (A)Blackburn-D | (H)Everton-W | (A)Newcastle-L | (A)Derby-D |
| Derby | (A)Chelsea-L | (H)Man U-L | (A)Boro-L | (H)Fulham-D |
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Sunderbland...
Thank you for your continued support.
You'd swear you have shares in dat shit squad de way yuh does take criticism of de team personally. I juss doh let emotion color my pragmatism...dai'z all.
It's a no brainer why folks on the board have an emotional connection to Sunderland this season. And in all fairness, the emotional connection btw Sunderland and the forum members (this season) arguably has more meaningful roots than the emotional connection explicitly communicated on this board for teams such as Barca, Madrid, Liverpool, ManU, Milan, Juventus, Chelsea etc....and I doh see them ketchin' any fatigue and flak about owning shares when they communicate a little passion for their adopted squad....Yes Sunderland is a sh*t side (I'm pragmatic too ;D), but if yuh think about it, if only "good" sides deserved unquestionable support & partiality,...then outside of patriotism, we'd be struggling for a rationale behind the warrior nation & socwarriors.net ... ;) In other words, give de man a bligh nah :beermug:
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"Sunderbland"
"Blunderland" :rotfl:
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Thanks elan. Disapointing.
How did KJ perform, I wonder...
Hes not been at the races the last 3 games, someone give him a call and tell him to either lay off his woman or the ganga.
BTW IF YOU THINK THIS SUNDERLAND TEAM IS SHITE
you are in cloud cuckoo land, I,ve supported them for longer than I care to remember, and trust me compared to sum sunderland teams over the past few years this is up their with the best. Unfortunately where I come from, your stuck for life, much worse than marriage at least you can get a divorce. ;)
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well said Kev
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Unfortunately where I come from, your stuck for life, much worse than marriage at least you can get a divorce. ;)
That would be a First if a FAN did go to court to get a divorce from his team :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
actually, I am surprised that an English fan has not yet done that :rotfl:
but I guess it just shows an Englishman's support for his local team ;) :D
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Thanks elan. Disapointing.
How did KJ perform, I wonder...
Hes not been at the races the last 3 games, someone give him a call and tell him to either lay off his woman or the ganga.
BTW IF YOU THINK THIS SUNDERLAND TEAM IS SHITE
you are in cloud cuckoo land, I,ve supported them for longer than I care to remember, and trust me compared to sum sunderland teams over the past few years this is up their with the best. Unfortunately where I come from, your stuck for life, much worse than marriage at least you can get a divorce. ;)
I'm right with you bro ! i've been supporting a medioca team for over 20 yrs called T&T !through thick and thin, heartache after heartache, disapointment after diappointment and i'm still supporting to this day !! plus we have a mercinary federation and special adviser who cares for our football as much as a toad cares for snakes
. bottom line, i'm happy our boys could get to ply their trade with a prem team, and i'm greatful to sunderland for giving them the opportunity to play on a higher level. i for one don't miss a sunlun game, and i've been supporting yuhs guys since 05/06 season when you were relegated with burmingham and west brom. i hope ardently that yus stay up and, strenghten your mid field, with better play makers.
PS: please tell roy to rid the team of choppra and higginbottom, they are at best championship quality.
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Thanks elan. Disapointing.
How did KJ perform, I wonder...
Hes not been at the races the last 3 games, someone give him a call and tell him to either lay off his woman or the ganga.
BTW IF YOU THINK THIS SUNDERLAND TEAM IS SHITE
PS: please tell roy to rid the team of choppra and higginbottom, they are at best championship quality.
If we stay up there is a long list that needs a cull, most bought by RK, but I expect to see it happen.
If we are relegated I don't think there will be many changes as a lot are good championship players.
RK is a rookie manager and no doubt has learned a lot this season, lets hope it sticks, IMHO the coaching has left a little to be desired this year and also needs looking at in the summer.
Its a make or break month coming up with 4 hard games which will see where we play next season, the players and KJ need to get their arses in gear.
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It's a no brainer why folks on the board have an emotional connection to Sunderland this season. And in all fairness, the emotional connection btw Sunderland and the forum members (this season) arguably has more meaningful roots than the emotional connection explicitly communicated on this board for teams such as Barca, Madrid, Liverpool, ManU, Milan, Juventus, Chelsea etc....and I doh see them ketchin' any fatigue and flak about owning shares when they communicate a little passion for their adopted squad....Yes Sunderland is a sh*t side (I'm pragmatic too ;D), but if yuh think about it, if only "good" sides deserved unquestionable support & partiality,...then outside of patriotism, we'd be struggling for a rationale behind the warrior nation & socwarriors.net ... ;) In other words, give de man a bligh nah :beermug:
Except I "gave no one flak" for supporting the team of their choice...au contraire, I referred the team as "Sunderbland" and was treated to a small treatise on why who supports what.
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It's a no brainer why folks on the board have an emotional connection to Sunderland this season. And in all fairness, the emotional connection btw Sunderland and the forum members (this season) arguably has more meaningful roots than the emotional connection explicitly communicated on this board for teams such as Barca, Madrid, Liverpool, ManU, Milan, Juventus, Chelsea etc....and I doh see them ketchin' any fatigue and flak about owning shares when they communicate a little passion for their adopted squad....Yes Sunderland is a sh*t side (I'm pragmatic too ;D), but if yuh think about it, if only "good" sides deserved unquestionable support & partiality,...then outside of patriotism, we'd be struggling for a rationale behind the warrior nation & socwarriors.net ... ;) In other words, give de man a bligh nah :beermug:
Except I "gave no one flak" for supporting the team of their choice...au contraire, I referred the team as "Sunderbland" and was treated to a small treatise on why who supports what.
Actually, the chronology is that you were thanked for your continued support and choose to turn the thread from a discussion on the teams' merits/non merits to one on my supposed lack of pragmatism and taking things personally.
That said I don't expect any kind of objectivity from someone who cannot recognise the hypocrisy behind juxtaposing the two sentences:
You have tuh be ah mind reader to know what I "looking for" when I post
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Me eh even have tuh spend time convincing yuh of that b/c de evidence all over de place.
Dear patrons,
We thank you for keeping the topic on Sunderbland, Blunderland, Sundireland, X Man United and other variations of the same.
...Management
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Good job midnight, i appreciate yuh efforts bro. thanx for keeping ME updated on sunlun's progress throughout the season. what a task it must have been to keep up a thread for a whole season. nuff respect fardder. positive.
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Keane scarred by 7-1 defeat
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane says he will never get over Sunderland's 7-1 defeat at Everton in November.
But three points against the Toffeemen at the Stadium of Light on Sunday would go a long way to healing some of the wounds.
"I always remember the defeats, it's the way I am," said the Sunderland manager. "The Everton game will probably stay with me until the day I die.
"It hurt me and it hurt the players but you have to move on. You have to learn from the setbacks and mistakes, I certainly learned from that defeat.
"You've got to be hurt when you have days like that and I learned a lot about myself that day. The most important thing is that you don't make the same mistakes again.
"If things aren't going right you have to be prepared to change it and sometimes you have to take a 3-1 defeat, instead of being daft enough to think you can win 6-5 - that was my attitude that day."
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Keane added: "We know it will be tough because Everton have the incentive of chasing that fourth spot in the Premier League, they are a good side.
"It'll be a real challenge for us but that's why we're here. I'd rather be in this position than in the Championship fighting for promotion.
"Sunday is a chance for the players to go out and express themselves and show what Sunderland is all about.
"Our home form has been good this season. We have 10 games left and six at home, we'll take that."
Full Article (http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=14369)
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=14370$
Miller could return against Everton
Roy Keane could hand Liam Miller a reprieve on Sunday after being impressed by the midfielder's attitude in training this week.
Miller was put on the Sunderland transfer list a fortnight ago after repeatedly turning up late for training.
But according to Keane the former Celtic man has reacted to the punishment in the right way and could feature against Everton.
Miller was dropped from Sunderland's squad for the game at Derby last weekend.
"Liam might be back," said the Sunderland boss. "He's shown a good attitude and that's the reaction you expect from a good professional. I'm delighted that he's reacted the way he has.
"He's been positive and staked his claim to get back in the team, that's what I'll judge him on."
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=14376
Edwards set for United run-out
Carlos Edwards will make his long-awaited return from injury in the reserves against Manchester United next week.
Edwards, who broke his leg on December 1, is back in full training.
The winger took part in a practice game at Sunderland's training ground yesterday, proving his fitness ahead of Wednesday's reserves game against United.
Roy Keane said: "Carlos is a fit lad and he's looking well. He's been striking the ball, there's been physical contact so we're not tip-toeing around him now, the players have been instructed to tackle him.
"It'll be a great boost to have him back. If he can do well in the reserves next week he might not be too far off.
"He's been a big loss, we have suffered on the right side. Sometimes you kind of forget about these lads when they are injured, but we've seen in training this week what a good player he is."
Meanwhile, Ross Wallace is back running and hopes to return to full training in the next two weeks.
Wallace suffered a knee ligament injury in January
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http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14377&fixture=2959717
Sunderland v Everton Pre Match
By Nick Alexander
Danny Collins will battle it out with Danny Higginbotham for a place in Sunderland's side against Everton today.
Collins, the regular left-back this season, missed last weekend's game at Derby because of suspension.
Higginbotham, recently back from a toe injury, stepped in against his former club and impressed Roy Keane, the manager.
But with Collins available, Keane must decide who to play against Everton in a vital game at the Stadium of Light.
Keane said: "Danny [Higginbotham] did quite well last week, especially when you consider he was out for two months or so. I have a selection headache but I don't mind that."
Keane says there is more to come from Kieran Richardson and Andy Reid - two players looking to sharpen their match fitness after returning from injury.
"When you look at the stats, they [Reid and Richardson] faded badly at Derby," said Keane. "Hopefully they will feel sharper and stronger against Everton."
"We keep going on about the injuries but we're hoping it's the end of it now and that everyone is fit until the end of the season."
Yesterday's results left Sunderland two points and two places above the drop zone but a win today could move them up to 12th.
Sunderland (from): Gordon, Fulop, Bardsley, Evans, Nosworthy, Collins, McShane, Higginbotham, Chopra, Richardson, Whitehead, Etuhu, Leadbitter, Miller, Yorke, Reid, Murphy, Chopra, Jones, Prica, Stokes.
Sunderland 0-1 Everton
By Matt Braithwaite
Andrew Johnson's second-half goal gave Everton victory against struggling Sunderland and kept the Toffees in the hunt for a Champions League spot.
Mikel Arteta's cross glanced in off the England striker's upper arm for the only goal of a scrappy encounter.
Tim Cahill's first-half header was deflected onto a post by Anthony Stokes as the visitors had the better chances.
Tim Howard denied the Black Cats an equaliser deep into injury time with a superb save from Andy Reid's free kick.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7272604.stm)
Roy Keane's reaction:
"I was disappointed with the result, I thought we deserved a bit better but I suppose I've said that far too many times.
"We probably didn't start playing until we were a goal down so we're disappointed but you have to get on with it.
"Sometimes when you come into a game and you're hoping to start quickly and it doesn't happen, it can be a long afternoon.
"In these games you do have to start quickly, it's very hard to change it when you start slow.
"Credit to Everton, they slowed it down and kept it well. It was only in the last 10 or 15 minutes that we had a real go.
"We got punished for some sloppy play, we gave the ball away cheaply and we never quite recovered.
"There was only Kenwyne up front but we had Murphy on the left and Stokes and Chopra on the right and the likes of Grant and Kieran in the middle - very attack-minded players. It was far from a defensive shape.
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[For the goal]"It came off his arm but it would have been harsh if the referee had disallowed it. We've got the benefit of watching it on video again but at the time we never thought it came off his arm.
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"The keeper made a brilliant save. When Reidy hit it, it had goal written all over it. Tim's very athletic and a good goalkeeper and that's what you hope your keeper can do. I was cursing him when he saved it but credit where it's due, it was an excellent save.
"There are a few teams fighting [at the bottom] and it might go to the last week or two. When you look at the run-in, ours is a difficult as any.
"We've got two tough games coming up, that's why the last few weeks have been disappointing, we thought it was a chance to get a win on the board, especially last week at Derby.
"We'll lick our wounds, get back in training in the morning and get ready for a tough game next weekend. You have to keep believing, the spirit of the players is the least of my worries."
Full reaction (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14377&fixture=2959717&t=4)
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34383.0)
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http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14432&fixture=2848962&t=1
By Nick Alexander
Carlos Edwards is set to play some part against Chelsea after returning from a broken leg.
Roy Keane, the manager, must decided whether to start the winger or name him on the bench.
Strikers Roy O'Donovan and Rade Prica are also pushing for a place in the starting line-up against the title hopefuls.
Dickson Etuhu is ruled out with a knee injury and could be sidelined for a further three weeks while Ross Wallace is still sidelined. Anthony Stokes has a virus and has not trained all week.
Roy Keane said: "With Carlos [Edwards] and Roy [O'Donovan] coming back I'll have more options and that can only be good."
If Daryl Murphy plays, it will be on his 25th birthday.
Sunderland have not scored a Premier League goal since Daryl Murphy netted their second in the 2-0 win over Wigan on February 9.
The Black Cats have won four of their last five games at the Stadium of Light.
Sunderland 0-1 Chelsea
By Owen Phillips
Chelsea saw off a spirited Sunderland side to claim a ninth win in 12 matches and keep their title bid on track thanks to John Terry's towering header.
Terry met Frank Lampard's corner and forced the ball home at the near post for his first Blues goal in 19 months.
But it was the Black Cats who had the best chances after the opening quarter.
Blues keeper Carlo Cudicini made a superb stop to keep out Andy Reid's curling free-kick and Kenwyne Jones missed a glorious close-range header.
Sunderland will consider themselves very unlucky after a battling display which saw them force Chelsea on to the back foot for much of the second period.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7284965.stm)
I'm disappointed with the result, it was a sloppy goal we give away from a needless corner.
We never quite recovered and as Chelsea have done many times before, they're quite good at set-pieces. It's a good delivery, big strong men attacking the ball, but I thought the players' reaction over the 90 minutes, their performance, was brilliant.
I didn't think it was a penalty (John Terry on Roy O'Donovan) - I don't think it's a day for looking at decisions that went against us, the referee got it right.
We have to play with that intensity and commitment to the club all the time. I thought we played some good stuff today. We had chances, over the last few weeks we've not really been creating chances, but we had opportunities today.
Chelsea took their chance, we didn't take ours, and that's why they're going for titles and the European Cup.
There's lots of pluses today. Reidy has got another game under his belt, although he maybe tired towards the end. Carlos, another hour for him, and Roy O'Donovan - so there's lots of pluses.
We played really well as a team today. I thought everyone, the subs when they came on, played their part - it's very rare that you lose a game at home and get applauded off the pitch, so that was great credit to our supporters for that.
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I'm happy with the players. You have to get the balance right and today we had a decent balance to us and credit to the players for that.
If we keep persevering from now until the end of the season, I'm pretty sure we'll be fine.
Full Reaction (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14432&fixture=2848962&t=4)
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34532.0)
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maybe this could be their first away victory fuh de season.
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Here one is for those that may want to watch it, after last week I haven't a clue what the team will be or what system they will play, but wins are what we need so lets hope RK just goes for it.
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=football
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Good luck today bro. hope you clobber the sh## out of villa!!
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I ardently hope so!!!
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3 villa men in mi fantasy squad but ah still want ah sunderland win
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AVFC v SAFC - team news
Kieran Richardson, Daryl Murphy, Michael Chopra and Anthony Stokes will all come into contention for a place in Sunderland's team at Aston Villa tomorrow.
Stokes has recovered from illness while the other three will travel after being left out of Roy Keane's squad for the game against Chelsea last week.
Dickson Etuhu is still missing with a knee injury as is Ross Wallace. David Connolly has a groin strain.
ASTON VILLA
1. Defeat away to Portsmouth last Saturday, ended a four-game unbeaten sequence.
2. Failed to score in only three matches.
3. On the longest sequence without a clean sheet of 16 matches; the 0-4 away win over Blackburn on 28 November being their last shut-out.
SUNDERLAND
1. Gained one point from a possible 12; won one of six.
2. Not scored in 375 minutes (six hours 15 minutes) of Premier League football since Daryl Murphy netted their second in the 2-0 home win over Wigan on 9 February.
3. Never failed to score in five successive matches in this league.
If selected:-
Dwight YORKE will be facing a former club. The 36 year old Trinidad and Tobago international began his English playing career at Aston Villa, making 287 appearances (231 in the league) and scoring 98 goals (73 league) between December 1989 and his £12.6m move to Manchester United in August 1998.
THIS SEASON'S REVERSE FIXTURE
Sunderland 1-1 Aston Villa
15 December 2007 - Ref: Steve Bennett
Sunderland scorer: Higginbotham 10
Villa scorer: Maloney 73
Aston Villa 0-1 Sunderland
By Phil McNulty
A late Michael Chopra strike gave Sunderland's survival ambitions a lift and hit Aston Villa's European hopes.
Chopra raced on to Kieran Richardson's pass with seven minutes left to beat Scott Carson and seal Sunderland's first away win in the league this term.
Villa were disappointing, with Marlon Harewood wasting their best chance when he was clean through after the break.
Sunderland were worthy winners, with Roy O'Donovan off target before substitute Chopra struck.
As Sunderland fans celebrated wildly at the final whistle, Villa's supporters rounded on Martin O'Neill's side as their recent indifferent form continued.
Sunderland suffered a blow before kick-off when influential striker Kenwyne Jones was ruled out through illness, while Villa's only change was the recall of Craig Gardner for suspended Olof Mellberg.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7298167.stm)
Roy Keane:
"I thought it was a good performance, we created one or two chances and we hung in there.
"We got through a sticky patch in the second half and we took the opportunity when it came our way.
"A lot of times this season we've been on the losing end of 1-0 scorelines and it was nice to turn it around, I think we just about deserved it.
"We knew we would have to be solid and we were. We managed to get over the finishing line.
"It was a great ball by Kieran [Richardson] and when he was through on goal I did fancy him [Chopra] to score. It's been tough for him this season, he's had to play out of position a lot so I'm pleased for him.
"Kenwyne could not train yesterday, he has a virus. I spoke to the doctor yesterday and he told me that Kenwyne was not right. The temptation is always to take a risk with players but it would not have been fair. We had to leave him behind. The other strikers did well, credit to them.
"I thought the back-four was outstanding, the two centre-backs were immense against some good strikers. Nuggsy got a few knocks and he was a warrior today.
"It's a big three points but the only time to gauge it is at the end of the season.
"It's especially good for the supporters, again I thought they were magnificent. They follow us all over so it's nice for them to get their rewards."
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34684.0)
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what time is the game ?
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Kenwyne out injured.
We mightn't see he for Jamaica.
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Jones dropped for Villla clash
By: Nick Alexander (Safc.com)
Kenwyne Jones was a shock omission from Sunderland's side as
they looked to break their duck away from home.
Roy Keane made two changes to the side that lost 1-0 to Chelsea
at the Stadium of Light last weekend.
Kieran Richardson and Daryl Murphy were back in the starting
line-up. Roy O'Donovan, who impressed against Chelsea, kept his
place.
Sunderland went into it having not scored in 375 minutes of
Premier League football - since Murphy netted in the home win over
Wigan. It was Keane's 75th match in charge of Sunderland.
Sunderland: Gordon, Bardsley, Nosworthy, Evans,
Collins, Edwards, Whitehead, Reid, Richardson, Murphy,
O'Donovan. Subs: Fulop, Chopra, Leadbitter, Yorke, Prica.
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Here one is for those that may want to watch it, after last week I haven't a clue what the team will be or what system they will play, but wins are what we need so lets hope RK just goes for it.
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=football
what the hell West Indies playing today ,thz for the link
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Didn't really understand that one so I went on the website forum to see what they were saying about Jones ...
*WTF!*
Sunderland AFC has taken the decision to remove the Fans Forum from its official site as it has become increasingly difficult to moderate such a medium on a 24/7 basis.
Legal and libel cases in the industry have become more prevalent as Internet usage continues to grow and message boards, chat rooms and blogging have become even more popular.
The law of libel applies just as it would if comments were published in a newspaper or other publication and the Club could be found liable for anything inappropriate posted on the forum.
The Club welcomes feedback and comments from supporters but feels this type of open discussion forum is better suited to independent websites.
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ah tell yah ,I went there and no football talk ,Cartman had give us a new site ent .
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http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forumdisplay.php?f=86
That's where all the football talk going on.
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K. JONES INJURED...YEAH RIGHT....... It must be HARD when yuh getting it from both ends.
Yuh boss man have the power to decide yuh fate......" I pay yuh wages...I tell yuh when tuh play.... club before country..... ah go show JW and FIFA who is boss...look yuh on the injured list...."
On the other end...TTFF...... come represent yuh country at no cost...yuh owe it to the people...to the team.... if yuh have aspirations of World Cup stage...yuh need to represent....
Where does the heart... and the player's individual player's will reside at times like this?
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K. JONES INJURED...YEAH RIGHT....... It must be HARD when yuh getting it from both ends.
Yuh boss man have the power to decide yuh fate......" I pay yuh wages...I tell yuh when tuh play.... club before country..... ah go show JW and FIFA who is boss...look yuh on the injured list...."
On the other end...TTFF...... come represent yuh country at no cost...yuh owe it to the people...to the team.... if yuh have aspirations of World Cup stage...yuh need to represent....
Where does the heart... and the player's individual player's will reside at times like this?
I doh know what sunderland have to gain by this at all. No Kenwyne for this match and they know very well that if they say that he injured and can't travel the TTFF by way of FIFA suspend him for the game next week as well. I doubt its anything constructed. Shit happens
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Now they saying he has a flu. So maybe he'll still show up for us.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hawes mackem View Post
"jones a shock ommision" according to safc.com ...is he ill or keane jusy given him a rest ...if it was just a rest, i would have him on the bench.
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He'll obviously be at Death's Door until a minute after the plane takes off to the T & T international match
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showpost.php?s=937670c6458bde626694a51945921f01&p=4782115&postcount=39
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he will find his ass in jamaica wednesday sunderland playing smart
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dat boy odonovan pullin rel stones
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lllaaawwwddd, dis team hard to watch...even Carlos stickin
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this boy they call reid doing good in the middle sunderland having ah good game and if donovan was any better they would have been leading
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this boy they call reid doing good in the middle sunderland having ah good game and if donovan was any better they would have been leading
yuh have good spirit, zoid.. :salute:
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ah tell yah ,I went there and no football talk ,Cartman had give us a new site ent .
Quags, check here
http://blackcatchat.net/forums/index.php?
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Kenwyne out injured.
We mightn't see he for Jamaica.
He has Flu
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Wey allyuh seein the game???
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It was reported yesterday he didn't train.
Stokes had a virus last week so possibly KJ has picked it up.
Don't think FIFA can do anything as if he doesn't turn up as he isn't fit today.
Hope the young lads have packed up wollies for next week, its snowing here ;D
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TVU channel 10006
Dat keeper handle the ball outside the area. Commentators say he coulda get send off. I remember a match we were playing against the US (WCQ semis I think) where Keller handle the ball outside the area and end up with a simple yellow card. What is the real deal on that rule?
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Didn't really understand that one so I went on the website forum to see what they were saying about Jones ...
*WTF!*
Sunderland AFC has taken the decision to remove the Fans Forum from its official site as it has become increasingly difficult to moderate such a medium on a 24/7 basis.
Legal and libel cases in the industry have become more prevalent as Internet usage continues to grow and message boards, chat rooms and blogging have become even more popular.
The law of libel applies just as it would if comments were published in a newspaper or other publication and the Club could be found liable for anything inappropriate posted on the forum.
The Club welcomes feedback and comments from supporters but feels this type of open discussion forum is better suited to independent websites.
Hard luck there UK. In the US the law says what someone posts in the comments can't be held against the website owner.
Get well quick KJ.
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cracker from Carlos, did not get over it though
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TVU channel 10006
Dat keeper handle the ball outside the area. Commentators say he coulda get send off. I remember a match we were playing against the US (WCQ semis I think) where Keller handle the ball outside the area and end up with a simple yellow card. What is the real deal on that rule?
Midknight:
Where in the world is TVU Channel 10006?
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Kenwyne out injured.
We mightn't see he for Jamaica.
He has Flu
i wonder if he go recover in time for wednesday
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Ah wonder if Blunderland cah even beat ah MLS team the wey dey goin?
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TVU channel 10006
Dat keeper handle the ball outside the area. Commentators say he coulda get send off. I remember a match we were playing against the US (WCQ semis I think) where Keller handle the ball outside the area and end up with a simple yellow card. What is the real deal on that rule?
Midknight:
Where in the world is TVU Channel 10006?
u have to dl TvU. Once you have it you have access to a couple 100 channels...sorry don't have no direct vid link
try this for audio
http://matchlive.safc.premiumtv.co.uk/mlex/258741/matches/10212007/2861244/match_console.html?clubid=10281
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Kenwyne out injured.
We mightn't see he for Jamaica.
He has Flu
did he accidently drink some brown ale :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
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Nosworthy get away with some serious assness...
Chopra on for O donovan. Woulda prefer he start
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TVU channel 10006
Dat keeper handle the ball outside the area. Commentators say he coulda get send off. I remember a match we were playing against the US (WCQ semis I think) where Keller handle the ball outside the area and end up with a simple yellow card. What is the real deal on that rule?
Midknight:
Where in the world is TVU Channel 10006?
the links on this page
http://www3.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=8585&part=sports
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great tackle from collins in the box.
Sunderland fighting hard, but they need to keep the ball more
Carlos off Leadbitter on
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TVU channel 10006
Dat keeper handle the ball outside the area. Commentators say he coulda get send off. I remember a match we were playing against the US (WCQ semis I think) where Keller handle the ball outside the area and end up with a simple yellow card. What is the real deal on that rule?
Midknight:
Where in the world is TVU Channel 10006?
the links on this page
http://www3.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=8585&part=sports
Quags, thanks man
livefooty stickin for me today
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Kenwyne out injured.
We mightn't see he for Jamaica.
There is also a rumour going around that Kenwynne's wife has given birth to a premature baby who is still in hospital
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Richardson touch real sloppy...jah
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Kenwyne out injured.
We mightn't see he for Jamaica.
There is also a rumour going around that Kenwynne's wife has given birth to a premature baby who is still in hospital
:o
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these last 15 minutes go be real hard... they have to make the most of the counters they get
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Richardson touch real sloppy...jah
ENt, over and over
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leadbitter play some serious tata since he come on...throw way the best chance of the second half...ah woulda love to see carlos get that chance
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leadbitter play some serious tata since he come on...throw way the best chance of the second half...ah woulda love to see carlos get that chance
Was tinkin de same ting, went out fuh a throw yes, dais to tell yuh, steups
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL!!!!
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yyyyyeeeahahhhh...
bring Yorke now
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Chopra score.......
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Sunderland performance today does not surprise me...Same shit, different day...
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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well taken Chopra
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sweet
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Nice goal by Chopra
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for once the long ball serve a purpose. great decision making from chopra... nice lob from Richardson
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bring yorke now
add: like he hear meh
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Sunderland performance today does not surprise me...Same shit, different day...
Do like Starsky and hush nah man
Dwight on for Murphy. Mixed reception?
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bring yorke now
add: like he hear meh
On now
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What kind of reception did Yorke get from the Villa fans?
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What kind of reception did Yorke get from the Villa fans?
I heard booing before he came on, but by the time he actually did there was warm applause
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This game is ah wonderful testiment for English players! An dey does wonder why dey doh geh pic!
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:wavetowel:
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Nice win Sunders 1-0..
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valuable 3 pts
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:cheers: :party: ;D
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:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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Good result for sunderland, hopefully this motivates them to fight an stay up
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Great result yes.
What a ball by Richardson for the goal.
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congrats sunderland, much deserved win, especially after NU win :beermug:
Big Up!
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Ah wonder if Blunderland cah even beat ah MLS team the wey dey goin?
I feel you may have to eat your words ;D
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Ah wonder if Blunderland cah even beat ah MLS team the wey dey goin?
I feel you may have to eat your words ;D
FROM here on in Baby......this is what I call the "win of change" ;) wins are coming our way from now on ;)...... :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
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the next 2 very do-able..WestHam & we must beat Fulham...an bess, :praying: all the major players healthy, even if not quite in form...Give we the next 2 please lord :praying: and then there is a lil matter ah wha yuh look into in the Carribbean...an I good for the year...tt thanks in advance lord :praying:
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Ah hope the bottom 3 ( bolton,derby, fulham)remain the same, cause non ah dem teams does play any football wort watchin, plus dem teams lack ambition. At least the wigans, birminghams, readings and sunderlands of the world does fight and will spend money tuh improve, so ah prefer dey stay than a bolton or fulham who have zero quality and does only look tuh hoof it long. So let dem stay wey dey is.
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Sunderland performance today does not surprise me...Same shit, different day...
And this is where buzzards like you and saga pinto does disappear until the next loss
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The team, in my opinion that ent have much ambition is Reading FC. Then need goals and dey aint buy nobody to give them that scoring edge! But i like them and i hope they stay up.
Bolton relegated themselves when they sold Anelka and replaced him with no one!
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Ah hope the bottom 3 ( bolton,derby, fulham)remain the same, cause non ah dem teams does play any football wort watchin, plus dem teams lack ambition. At least the wigans, birminghams, readings and sunderlands of the world does fight and will spend money tuh improve, so ah prefer dey stay than a bolton or fulham who have zero quality and does only look tuh hoof it long. So let dem stay wey dey is.
ah can't comment on the quality of the teams but ah know Bolton sigh they death warrant when they sell Anelka and ent buy a striker to replace him with all Abrahamovic money.
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men say sunderland play mess? i n see that, find they had a descent game and didnt deserve to lose, reid is the general in the middle that is the go to man he have the vision. with edwards and richardson coming on , sunderland season safe
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men say sunderland play mess? i n see that, find they had a descent game and didnt deserve to lose, reid is the general in the middle that is the go to man he have the vision. with edwards and richardson coming on , sunderland season safe
Is Dwight was about 5 years younger and playing in the middle with Reid, Sunderland woulda be murder.
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lol look carlos and jones aint go start for da next game lol
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lol look carlos and jones aint go start for da next game lol
Man, I hope too many people over by Sunderland ent thinking like dat eh.....
leh we extinguish dat kinda thinkin now fa now ;) ;)
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lol look carlos and jones aint go start for da next game lol
Man, I hope too many people over by Sunderland ent thinking like dat eh.....
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=317236
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haha,first away win.
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sunderland win juve win....nice!
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Went to Villa Park for the game today. Had some decent seats, got to walk along the line and see the sunderland guys warming up, noticeably absent was kenwyne, Dwight was warming up with some other trainer on his own away from the general scrimmage.
We hail out Carlos and he didn't acknowledge, as loads of other people were calling out his name. Then we say we is trinis and he looked up and ran across and gave me and my partner a hail. We ask him where kenwyne and he said , ' he sick'.....no kenwyne, away from home, I figured sunderland would be happy to get a draw.
Carlos, played alright, but you could see he's not back up to full fitness and if his 'injury' is to be believed, it would explain the way he looked.
To be honest, based on the 1st half, the game should of been a draw, but sunderland came out in the second half hungry, like they wanted it. The goal was much the same, it was sunderland who wanted it more and was the first shot on target for the Black Cats!
It was also the first time someone had tried a ball over the top. Prior to that everyone was going down the wings and trying to whip the cross in, to no avail.
Now I don't know who is more suspect, Scott Carson or Zat Knight, but the combination of the two in the back of Villa defence is definitely volatile. That goal was a terrible example of poor communication. Knight should have dealt with it better, but in his mind he thinking Carson coming for it and in Carson mind Knight going to deal with it.....end result, a soft, but valuable goal for sunderland.
Villa would and should be disappointed, especially after the way in which they lost to portsmouth last week. On paper they have a side that should have won comfortably today. It's telling that after the game, Capello dropped Villa's Agbonlahor and Young and Carson supposedly has been ruled out due to some knock he got in the game.
Now I aint' see him do so much as stretch for a ball in that game in which he had very little to do, except pull the ball out the back of the net and argue with Zat Knight, so the knock might be mental more than anything else.
In any event, good 3 pt grab for sunderland, but martin o'neil needs to get Villa back on track and soon!
A few pics..carlos in the red boots, the quality is just ok cuz i took them with my cell phone camera.
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/triniflyboy/Forum%20Stuff/Carloswarmup2-resized.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/triniflyboy/Forum%20Stuff/Carloswarmup-resized.jpg)
[(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/triniflyboy/Forum%20Stuff/Carlosonthefield-cropped.jpg)
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Went to Villa Park for the game today. Had some decent seats, got to walk along the line and see the sunderland guys warming up, noticeably absent was kenwyne, Dwight was warming up with some other trainer on his own away from the general scrimmage.
We hail out Carlos and he didn't acknowledge, as loads of other people were calling out his name. Then we say we is trinis and he looked up and ran across and gave me and my partner a hail. We ask him where kenwyne and he said , ' he sick'.....no kenwyne, away from home, I figured sunderland would be happy to get a draw.
Carlos, played alright, but you could see he's not back up to full fitness and if his 'injury' is to be believed, it would explain the way he looked.
To be honest, based on the 1st half, the game should of been a draw, but sunderland came out in the second half hungry, like they wanted it. The goal was much the same, it was sunderland who wanted it more and was the first shot on target for the Black Cats!
It was also the first time someone had tried a ball over the top. Prior to that everyone was going down the wings and trying to whip the cross in, to no avail.
Now I don't know who is more suspect, Scott Carson or Zat Knight, but the combination of the two in the back of Villa defence is definitely volatile. That goal was a terrible example of poor communication. Knight should have dealt with it better, but in his mind he thinking Carson coming for it and in Carson mind Knight going to deal with it.....end result, a soft, but valuable goal for sunderland.
Villa would and should be disappointed, especially after the way in which they lost to portsmouth last week. On paper they have a side that should have won comfortably today. It's telling that after the game, Capello dropped Villa's Agbonlahor and Young and Carson supposedly has been ruled out due to some knock he got in the game.
Now I aint' see him do so much as stretch for a ball in that game in which he had very little to do, except pull the ball out the back of the net and argue with Zat Knight, so the knock might be mental more than anything else.
In any event, good 3 pt grab for sunderland, but martin o'neil needs to get Villa back on track and soon!
A few pics..carlos in the red boots, the quality is just ok cuz i took them with my cell phone camera.
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/triniflyboy/Forum%20Stuff/Carloswarmup2-resized.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/triniflyboy/Forum%20Stuff/Carloswarmup-resized.jpg)
[(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/triniflyboy/Forum%20Stuff/Carlosonthefield-cropped.jpg)
Thanks Fli!
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Dah cellphone is ah Viewty, ah fine dem pics real good...ah nice clic wouldabe Carlos come up to chat allyuh..thanks still
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Thanks FLi!
good that you earned a win for them ;) ;)
you BETTER go to their next game ;D ;D ;D ;D
you is good luck ;)
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Dah cellphone is ah Viewty, ah fine dem pics real good...ah nice clic wouldabe Carlos come up to chat allyuh..thanks still
yea, i was too excited, i dropped the phone, lol. But seriously, i didn't wanna get him trouble, posing for pics when he supposed to be warming up and, cuz it had one setta sunderland men who were jealous that we got a personal hail and might have hassle him for pics.
The mascot give me a bligh though...
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/triniflyboy/mascot.jpg)
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Thanks Fli! . In terms of pixels, what is the resolution of the camera?
Reid and Richardson were very good in the midfield today. But overall Vila was poor. Nosworthy again showed that he is of Premiership quality. O’Donovan missed two excellent chances, I wished Kenwynne had those types of chances. Read somewhere that Leadbitter is a local Sunderland boy, came up through the youth academy etc, and if that is true it might be a small part of the explanation of why he gets a lot of playing time.
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Thanks Fli! . In terms of pixels, what is the resolution of the camera?
believe it or not, it's a lowly 2.0 megapixel, just a good thing it was sunny
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Good stuff dey Fli.
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Villa park real spacious duke, look like ah good 60k capacity easy.
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Dah cellphone is ah Viewty, ah fine dem pics real good...ah nice clic wouldabe Carlos come up to chat allyuh..thanks still
yea, i was too excited, i dropped the phone, lol. But seriously, i didn't wanna get him trouble, posing for pics when he supposed to be warming up and, cuz it had one setta sunderland men who were jealous that we got a personal hail and might have hassle him for pics.
The mascot give me a bligh though...
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/triniflyboy/mascot.jpg)
good stuff there Fli..
but how come the mascot in that photo dress up so normal in coat and beanie hat?? ;D
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Villa park real spacious duke, look like ah good 60k capacity easy.
http://www.premierleague.com/page/Statistics/0,,12306,00.html
42640. The stadium of light is 49000. Only ManU and Arsenal could exceed 60000
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Sunderland vs West Ham Pre Match
Kenwyne Jones is ready to resume his role in Sunderland's relegation battle after recovering from flu.
The Sunderland striker was "floored" for four days last week after picking up a virus the day before the win at Aston Villa.
Jones, 23, returned to training on Tuesday after being given the go-ahead by the club doctor.
The Trinidad and Tobago man, however, is not certain that he will be in Roy Keane's team against West Ham tomorrow.
"Thankfully I'm back on track," said Jones. "There was no way I could play against Villa, I hardly moved for four days.
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Keane has said that Jones faces a fight to win back his place.
"That's the way it should be," said the former Southampton man. "You have to fight every day to keep your place, no one here can relax and think that they will be automatically picked. It's all about the team staying up."
Full Preview (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14526&fixture=2849121)
Sunderland striker Kenwyne Jones could return after recovering from a virus although international team-mate Carlos Edwards (groin) is rated at only 50-50.
Danny Collins (dead leg) and Nyron Nosworthy (groin) are expected to retain their places in the squad, but Dickson Etuhu (knee) will be missing.
West Ham striker Freddie Sears (groin) is struggling to be fit but Bobby Zamora is expected to return.
Central defender Matthew Upson (calf) is doubtful with a calf injury.
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Michael CHOPRA is one shy of 50 career league goals (Newcastle, Watford, Barnsley, Cardiff and Sunderland).
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THIS SEASON'S REVERSE FIXTURE
West Ham United 3-1 Sunderland
21 December 2007 - Ref: Chris Foy
West Ham scorers: Cole 9, Gordon 78 og, Bellamy 90
Sunderland scorer: Jones 52
Full Preview (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7309366.stm)
Sunderland 2-1 West Ham
By Sarah Holt
A late goal from Andy Reid saw Sunderland pull further clear of the drop zone with victory over West Ham.
Sunderland fell behind when Carlton Cole found Freddie Ljungberg whose deflected shot went in.
But the goal fired up the home side and Kenwyne Jones soon equalised, slotting in Daryl Murphy's flick-on.
Sunderland kept the upper hand with Murphy blazing the ball over before Reid buried the ball in the dying minutes of the match.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7309366.stm)
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34943.0)
Standings as of 30th of March
| Position | Team | Played | Goal Dif | Points |
| 11 | Tottenham | 32 | 6 | 39 |
| 12 | Newcastle | 32 | -21 | 35 |
| 13 | Middlesboro | 32 | -17 | 34 |
| 14 | Sunderland | 32 | -20 | 33 |
| 15 | Reading | 32 | -21 | 32 |
| 16 | Wigan | 32 | -19 | 31 |
| 17 | Birmingham | 32 | -11 | 30 |
| 18 | Bolton | 32 | -18 | 26 |
| 19 | Fulham | 32 | -24 | 24 |
| 20 | Derby | 32 | -51 | 11 |
April Fixtures
| Team | GW 33 | GW 34 | GW 35 | GW 36 |
| Tottenham | (A) Blackburn-D | (H)Boro-D | (A)Wigan | (H)Bolton-D |
| Newcastle | (H)Reading-W | (A)Pompey-D | (H)Sunderland | (A)West Ham-D |
| Boro | (H)Man U-D | [(A)Tottenham-D | (H)Bolton-L | (A)Sunderland-L |
| Sunlun | (A)Fulham-W | (H)Man City-L | (A)Newcastle-L | (H)Boro-W |
| Reading | (A)Newcastle-L | (H)Fulham-L | (A)Arsenal-L | (A)Wigan |
| Wigan | (H)Birmingham-W | (A)Chelsea-D | (H)Tottenham-D | (H)Reading-D |
| Birmingham | (A)Wigan-L | (H)Everton-D | (A)Aston Villa-L | (A)Liverpool-D |
| Bolton | (A)Aston Villa-L | (H)West Ham-W | (A)Boro-W | (A)Tottenham-D |
| Fulham | (H)Sunderland-L | (A)Reading-W | (H)Liverpool-L | (A)Man City-W |
| Derby | (A)Everton-L | (H)Aston Villa-L | (A)West Ham-L | (H)Arsenal-L |
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Spanish trip is all about graft – not golf
Apr 1 2008 by James Hunter, Evening Chronicle
ROY KEANE insists Sunderland’s Spanish break is about graft, not golf.
The Black Cats jetted out to Spain on Saturday night after their victory over West Ham, and are due back on Wearside tomorrow, in time to prepare for this weekend’s game at relegation-haunted Fulham.
Keane decided to take his players away for a four-day training camp to give them a lift as they go into the final six games of their Premier League survival campaign.
But he says there will be no time for rest and relaxation – it is strictly a work trip.
He said: “Some people mentioned golf clubs to me, but the fact is it’s a training camp – we are training.
“It’s not as if there’s a week to go until the end of the season and we are going for a knees-up.
“We will be training in a proper footballing set-up.
“The plan was for a recovery session on Sunday after the West Ham game and for training on Monday and Tuesday before coming back Wednesday.
“Essentially, it’s just a change of scenery.
“I know whether conditions have not been great, but our training pitches just seem to take the brunt of it.
“It will be nice for the lads to get out into a decent environment, like we’ve done before.
“I think last season we went to Portugal and that worked well in terms of the shape and state of mind we came back in.
“A change of scenery is always good.
“Sometimes it is difficult to work on certain things on the training pitch because of the weather conditions.
“It will be nice to have better conditions, to get a break from things, to recharge the batteries and also to get the players away together – and the staff as well, because they deserve a break too.”
Most of Sunderland’s first-team squad has made the trip, but Keane has had to leave Trinidad & Tobago duo Kenwyne Jones and Carlos Edwards behind because they were unable to get visas at short notice.
Midfielder Liam Miller also stayed on Wearside for family reasons.
SUNDERLAND reserves take on Middlesbrough at the Riverside Stadium tonight (7pm) in the FA Premier Reserve League.
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Fulham 1-3 Sunderland
By Chris Whyatt
Sunderland cruised past Fulham with an away win that looks to have secured their Premier League status and doomed Roy Hodgson's side to relegation.
Danny Collins nodded the visitors ahead just before half-time and substitute Michael Chopra doubled their lead with a clever lob just after the break.
Cottagers substitute David Healy fired home from 20 yards on 73 minutes but Kenwyne Jones rolled home instantly.
Fulham remain six points from safety with just five games remaining.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7320183.stm)
Roy Keane:
"We scored goals at the right time but our overall performance wasn't great, our passing was not up to scratch.
"We're in a much better position than we were three weeks ago but we're not safe, we can still be caught.
"We've got some tough games coming up and we want to try to get as many points as possible. We have to keep going, we're looking up.
"In the first half we were poor, I was glad to get them in at half-time. We huffed and puffed in the first half, we did not have much quality.
"It's nice to win football matches, that's what we're in the game for - to win. We've won three in a row now but we shouldn't be dancing in the streets.
"We've had some major disappointments this season and the players have remained positive, that's what has kept us going, it would have been easy for them to drop their heads.
"It's a good time to win three in a row but it's no coincidence that we've done it after getting a fully fit squad.
"Michael Chopra is a centre-forward but he has done a good job for us today [in midfield], good players can play anywhere.
"I just had a gut feeling at half-time, you have to try these things. Carlos is coming back from injury and Fulham's shape was causing us one or two problems.
"I decided to change it and that's what I'm there to do. I've made a lot of changes this season which have not worked out - in the last few weeks they have.
"I've only been a manager two minutes and I hope with every game I improve. I've made loads of big mistakes this season but as long as you learn from them.
"There was not much betwen the teams today but we managed to score at the right time."
Full Reaction (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14587&fixture=2849184&t=4)
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=35094.0)
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Sunderland vs Man City Pre Match
Sunderland are looking to post four successive Premier League victories for the first time under Roy Keane; Manchester City could suffer three straight league losses for the first time under Sven-Goran Eriksson.
CLUB FORM
SUNDERLAND
Highest achievable after Saturday's matches: 12th
Lowest could fall: 14th
All statistics and sequences refer to the Premier League only, unless otherwise stated.
1. Won the last three against Aston Villa (a), West Ham (h) and Fulham (a).
2. Not won four on the bounce in this league since between 18 November and 9 December 2001 when Peter Reid's side beat Newcastle (a), Everton (a), Charlton (h) and Middlesbrough (h).
3. On course for their best finish since seventh for the second season in a row in 2000-01.
4. This is Roy Keane's 75th league match in charge (Football League and Premier League).
8. A league high proportion of 78% of their goals have come from open play (25 of 32), and 59% have been scored from inside the 18-yard box (19).
MANCHESTER CITY
Highest achievable after Saturday's matches: 8th
Lowest could fall: 9th
4. Unbeaten when scoring first; won 11 and drawn three of 14 in which they've opened the scoring.
KEY PLAYER NOTES
SUNDERLAND
Michael CHOPRA needs to score one to total 50 Premier League goals (Newcastle and Sunderland).
HEAD TO HEAD
Manchester City have won six of the seven Premier League meetings with the Black Cats, and are on course for a third successive double over them.
There's yet to be a Premier League draw between these clubs.
THIS SEASON'S REVERSE FIXTURE
Manchester City 1-0 Sunderland
5 November 2007 - Ref: Alan Wiley
Man City scorer: Ireland 67
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=35222.msg416229#msg416229)
Sunderland 1-2 Man City
By Chris Bevan
Darius Vassell's scuffed winner gave Manchester City victory over Sunderland after a dramatic final 10 minutes.
City were under the cosh until Nyron Nosworthy tangled with Daniel Sturridge in the area and Elano stepped up to fire home the penalty.
Sunderland levelled immediately when Andy Reid crossed for Daryl Murphy to volley home at the near post.
But City won it when Elano slid Vassell clear and his shot bobbled past Craig Gordon and into the corner of the net.
The late goal glut was both unexpected and welcome, especially for City who had not managed a shot on goal until Elano's spot-kick.
It had been Sunderland who had looked more like scoring throughout the game, although Roy Keane's side were hardly in inspirational form themselves.
The Black Cats came into the match on the back of three straight wins that had seen them climb out of immediate danger at the bottom of the Premier League table.
But, Kenwyne Jones aside, they were unable to find a way through a makeshift City back-line that was missing Micah Richards and Nedum Onuoha through injury.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7332041.stm)
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's defeat to Manchester City:
"It was a poor afternoon. The game wasn't great and we gave some bad goals away. At 1-1, I would have taken the point.
[On the penalty]
"At the time I wasn't sure but having seen it again, it clearly wasn't, there was no contact.
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"If I've said it once, I've said it a million times - we've got hard work ahead. Maybe people took their eye off the ball because they have plugged into the view that we're safe.
"We might have slackened off four or five per cent and you can't do it. We started badly, we keep making it hard for ourselves. I could have predicted what was going to happen.
"People need to start listening to me, not looking ahead to next season. We're in for some tough games.
Full Reaction (http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=14634)
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Newcastle - Sunderland pre-match
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7344159.stm
Sunderland midfielder Dickson Etuhu has been ruled out for the rest of the season with a knee ligament injury.
Fellow midfielder Dwight Yorke has also failed to shake off his own knee problem and is unlikely to figure.
http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14690&fixture=2971152&t=3
Sunderland were dealt a blow before the game when it emerged that defenders Jonny Evans and Phil Bardsley would both miss out through injury.
Paul McShane and Danny Higginbotham came in as Sunderland looked for their first win over their big rivals for more than seven years.
Higginbotham scored for Sunderland when they drew 1-1 with the Magpies at the Stadium of Light in November.
Winger Carlos Edwards was back in the starting line-up, as was Liam Miller, his first game back since being transfer-listed in early February.
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The injuries meant that Roy Keane had to change his back-four for the first time in seven games. He made four changes to the side that lost 2-1 to Manchester City last weekend.
Sunderland knew a win at St. James' Park would lift them above Newcastle into 12th place.
Teams:
Sunderland: Gordon; McShane, Higginbotham, Nosworthy, Collins; Edwards, Whitehead, Miller, Reid, Murphy; Jones. Subs: Fulop, Richardson, Harte, Leadbitter, Chopra.
Newcastle 2-0 Sunderland
By Andrew McKenzie
Michael Owen scored both goals as a dominant Newcastle cruised past Sunderland to win the Tyne-Wear derby.
Owen put the Magpies ahead inside four minutes when he brilliantly got on the end of a Geremi cross to glance a header past Craig Gordon.
Sunderland were all at sea and fell further behind to an Owen penalty after Danny Higginbotham handled in the box.
Kenwyne Jones went closest to pulling a goal back for Sunderland with a header which was saved by Steve Harper.
Resurgent Newcastle were worthy winners as Kevin Keegan kept up his perfect record as a Magpies boss against the Black Cats.
The victory means the Magpies can forget about any worries of being caught in the relegation scrap, but Sunderland will be looking over their shoulders after an abject display.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7344159.stm)
Roy Keane's reaction:
"I'm disappointed with the way we started and disappointed we couldn't get to half-time just 1-0 down.
"At this level you can't afford to give the goals away that we gave away.
"We made it very hard for ourselves, particularly with the second goal just before half-time. What we need to do is stop gifting teams goals.
"Newcastle will look at their first goal as a good goal but from our point of view, we have ourselves to blame, it was poor.
"My players understood how important the game was. I'm not going to question my team's desire, we just gave away bad goals.
"In the second-half, it would have been nice if we'd scored one to make it interesting but it wasn't to be.
"We've got a lot of hard work ahead and that hasn't changed. It makes next weekend that more important.
"The injuries didn't help. We lost three players in the last two days but you can't make excuses. We gave the ball away cheaply for both goals and you get punished.
"I know they'll be disappointed but we have to bounce back. We've had a major set-back today and we have to get back next weekend.
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"I thought Kenwyne did OK, but OK is not good enough. We got some decent support up to him."
Full Reaction (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14690&fixture=2971152&t=4)
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=35406.0)
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Sunderland - Middlesborough Pre-Match
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7356054.stm
Sunderland v Middlesbrough
Venue: Stadium of Light Date: Saturday, 26 April Kick-off: 1500 BST
Sunderland defender Phil Bardsley is sidelined and faces an operation to repair a damaged cartilage.
Jonny Evans is rated at only 50-50 with a hamstring strain, while Dwight Yorke remains a doubt with a knee injury.
BIG-MATCH FACTS
Safety will be guaranteed for the winner, if it's accompanied by defeat for any one of Birmingham (home to Liverpool), Reading (away to Wigan) or Bolton (away to Spurs)
HEAD TO HEAD
-Middlesbrough have won their last three visits to the Stadium of Light 0-1, 1-3 and 0-3.
-Sunderland's last home victory over the Teessiders was 1-0 on 9 December 2000, when Michael Gray got the winner.
THIS SEASON'S REVERSE FIXTURE
Middlesbrough 2-2 Sunderland
22 September 2007 - Ref: Howard Webb
Middlesbrough scorers: Arca 15, Downing 67
Sunderland scorers: Leadbitter 2, Miller 89
Sunderland 3-2 Middlesbrough
By Julian Taylor
Sunderland substitute Daryl Murphy headed home a dramatic injury-time winner to sink Middlesbrough in an absorbing Wear-Tees derby.
Tuncay calmly drove Boro ahead in four minutes before Danny Higginbotham headed Sunderland's equaliser just two minutes later.
A minute before half-time Michael Chopra fired home before Afonso Alves low shot levelled for Boro in 73.
Murphy rose to head home at the death to ensure Sunderland's league safety.
Full Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7356054.stm)
Roy Keane's reaction
"It's great - better than last weekend, let me tell you.
"The game summed up our season. We started badly, gave a bad goal away, recovered, scored a couple of good goals and then the late goal from Daryl.
"It was a rollercoaster game and it's been a rollercoaster season.
"The players deserve real credit, they have been brilliant. In terms of desire and attitude, I think we'll be top of the league.
"I've said that I felt this season was one of the biggest in the club's history - because of its yo-yo history, we needed the stability and we need to build.
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"The next challenge is to improve the squad and finish higher in the Premier League. We want to be bigger, better and stronger next season.
"We've got two games to go and we're still confident we can get a few more points on the board and finish as high as possible.
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"Promotion last year was great, staying here this year is progress and that's what we wanted. This year was a massive learning curve for everyone."
Full Reaction (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14746&fixture=2849375&t=4)
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=35487.0)
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Bolton-Sunderland Pre-Match
Danny Collins hopes to cap off a good week by helping Sunderland win at Bolton tonight (5.15pm).
Collins, who nearly left the club before Christmas, was this week named player of the season by the Supporters' Association.
Sunderland's 3-2 win over Middlesbrough last Saturday confirmed their Premier League status with two games left.
But, according to Collins, the Black Cats will be desperate to register a third away win of the season at the Reebok Stadium.
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"We know Bolton are going to be up for it. They're fighting to stay in the Premier League so we know it's not going to be easy.
"We want to finish as high as we can in the league. We've got six points to play for and to finish 12th or 13th would be a great achievement for us, it would give us something to build on next year."
Collins was in the Sunderland side that was relegated with record low points two seasons ago, making this season's achievement even more special for the Wales international.
Only Collins, Nyron Nosworthy, Dean Whitehead, Daryl Murphy and Grant Leadbitter survive from that miserable season for the Wearsiders.
"I've worked hard at my game to try to prove I can be a Premier League defender," said Collins.
Roy Keane has endorsed the fans' decision to name Collins player of the season. "Danny epitomises the spirit here," said Keane.
Bolton 2-0 Sunderland
By Andrew McKenzie
Bolton virtually safeguarded their Premier League status with a battling victory at home to Sunderland.
El-Hadji Diouf put them ahead just before half-time when he controlled a Kevin Nolan cross before firing home.
He should have added a second when he met Matthew Taylor's cross with a header that was denied by the post.
Sunderland could have made them pay but Kenwyne Jones missed a glorious chance before a Daryl Murphy own goal handed Bolton three crucial points.
The win means that Bolton are three points ahead of the drop zone, but with their far superior goal difference it means they can go to Chelsea next weekend with their relegation fears eased.
Sunderland's position was secured with a win at Middlesbrough a week ago and the difference in the two sides' needs was evident for much of the game as Bolton dominated possession.
Full report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7368642.stm)
Keane's Reaction
"We were sloppy to say the least. We had a good chance to get back in it through Kenwyne Jones and we didn't take it. We gave the ball away too cheaply, particularly in the middle of the park.
"I don't care what stage of the season it is, it's not acceptable. We gave bad goals away and I've been saying it for 38 weeks, we need to improve.
"I made three substitutions today and I could have made 10.
"We've lost 22 games this season and people keep telling me we've had a good season. When you lose 22 games, you are lucky to be in a job.
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"There will be changes in the summer, I'm fed up of saying the same things, I'm bored with myself.
"I've been very patient and kind to some of my players. Today just confirms what I've been thinking. Maybe it's a good thing. Maybe if we had won today and we beat Arsenal next week I'd be thinking we were not bad.
"We're not great and we need more quality. There's no questioning the players' commitment and desire, but at this level we need quality.
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"Survival is not a word we want to be using next year. I want to think bigger than that. I just don't think survival is a time to celebrate.
"We need to invest and do it wisely and we need to move people on. You want certain characters at your football club."
Full Reaction (http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14793&fixture=2849433&t=4)
Match Thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=35628.0)
Standings as of 28th of April
| Position | Team | Played | Goal Dif | Points |
| 11 | Tottenham | 36 | 6 | 43 |
| 12 | Newcastle | 36 | -16 | 43 |
| 13 | Sunderland | 36 | -20 | 39 |
| 14 | Wigan | 36 | -17 | 37 |
| 15 | Middlesboro | 36 | -19 | 36 |
| 16 | Bolton | 36 | -20 | 33 |
| 17 | Reading | 36 | -28 | 33 |
| 18 | Birmingham | 36 | -17 | 32 |
| 19 | Fulham | 36 | -25 | 30 |
| 20 | Derby | 36 | -63 | 11 |
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Metioned I would start one and keep it updated with the rumours to see what comes off and what doesn't. Given Saturdays performance and Roy Keanes interviews ( see below) I thought I might aswell start it this week, as the papers will start now having scented blood.
I have notice threads are moved so it is my intention to keep the rumours, outs and ins in this thread to not piss off the mods and keep it all in one place.
Those that are not aware the papers just link people willy nilly and 95% of it is rubbish, it will be worse this summer as England aren't at Euro 2008 so they have to fill the back pages with something.
My Own Thoughts
The club didn't have a pot to piss in 2 years ago so in reality it has done well to get where it is and survive. We are a poor team, a bottom 6 premiership team no more no less. I do watch quite a bit of football but like most fans notice good / bad players but not the steady ones. Watching a team play and watching a player with view to transfers are 2 totally different things so I don't have any particular players in mind. With the above the club has struggled to attract quality players because of its yoyo and failure to invest history, due to the lack of finances we have also not been willing to take the risks we need to pay players we need proper money. I think this season we will see some of this lifted as we need to attract better players, you have to pay proper money.
To move up a level we need better defenders who can also pass the ball ( at least to somebody in the same strip for a change ;D) aswell as defend. Our midfield is far too weak for the premiership and we need 2 central midfeilders who can tackle and pass to help the defence out when needed and move the ball to forward / more dangerous position better and quicker. We get this sorted then who have the makings of a good basis to move up the premiership. We do not get behind teams enough or cause them enough problems, with Carlos missing we have lacked any balance and need to improve the wide positions. We could do with a striker but the other areas are more important first.
I expect to see at least 6 (possibly 1 or 2 more) first team players brought in, and we will probably see a couple of younger players bought with a view to the future.
Roy Keane bought who he could last season and made some mistakes, due to money, reputation and lack of scouting network. I still expect a couple won't work out next season as is always the case with all mangers. Hopefully the club is much better off this summer than last. I expect quite a few to leave depending on the numbers brought in.
The Trini's
Dwight has done a great job for the club and as it stands its either Australia or a caoching role at the club, I can't honestly see him getting many games due to his age next season, it happens to us all. Whichever it is, I wish the lad well and he has been a credit.
Carlos has been a miss this season and the season has been a right off for the lad. We are none the wiser if he can hack it in the premiership as yet as its unfair to judge him. He needs to get his head right, I think the games he has played he hasn't been match sharp and the injury seems to be on his mind when playing. Coming home and playing fot T&T in the summer will help, but he needs to sort it out. A big season for Carlos next season as there is no way the club will go into next season without buying in a right sided player, it simply can't afford to. So I expect Carlos to face serious competition for his place next season, so he needs to come back fighting fit. From a personal perspective I hope he does and plays over 30 games next season.
Kenwyn, well could of called this "Where is KJ Going Today Thread". He has already been linked with a number of clubs and this will gather pace as the summer goes on, most will just be paper talk. I do expect someone to bid for him, how he reacts is up to him. Without doubt we would of been dead and buried without Kenwyn this year, but every player has his price. If the club get offered really serious money for him, then there is a chance he will move on. He has enormous potential but still a lot to learn. Sunderland have helped his reputation by playing to his strengths this season, I don't want to see them playing to the same strengths next season, as it will be another season of struggle. That is not getting at Kenwyn, that is simply pointing to a lack of quality behind him, but will he be as effective with better quality behind him? So I don't honestly know if Kenwyn will be at Sunderland at the start of next season.
I have put Roy's interview with the echo and links so far on replys to break this monologue up a bit (sorry!). I will update it regularly ( remember RUMOURS) and watch for any abuse( you know who I am talking about ;))
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http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/Angry-Keane-No-player-is.4050347.jp
Angry Keane: No player is safe from axe
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By Graeme Anderson
Fuming Roy Keane has warned his Sunderland players that no-one is safe.
And the Black Cats boss says that includes players who have signed long-tem deals.
Keane, upset by his side's dreadful display in the 2-0 defeat at Bolton on Saturday, is prepared to get down to business straight away as he plans a brighter future for the club.
And as well as looking to get new players in, he is looking to ship some out.
"I understand 100 per cent that it takes time to bring money in but we need to invest, we need to invest wisely and we need to move certain people on," he said.
"A lot of that will be done this week and next week and it is irrelevant to me whether or not players are under contract.
"We have a few players whose contracts are up and that's easy enough but I really haven't got a problem with players moving on if they've got a big contract.
"If players think they're safe because of that, they've got another think coming.
"We'll give them a few bob to move on, it won't be a problem. It's simple.
"You pay players to come and you can pay them to go, it doesn't matter to me if they're under contract.
"You want certain people at your club, you want certain characters, so I'll have a busy week ahead – trust me.
"There will be changes because I'm saying the same things week-in, week-out and I'm fed up with saying it. I'm getting bored with myself, really bored with myself.
"Gordon Strachan says if you have to tell a player more than three times to do something and he doesn't do it then you just get shot of him. Now I think I have been very patient and very kind to some of my players. Sometimes it's just a question of quality, not a question of desire."
A fine finish to the season after safety was confirmed last week was what Keane was looking for – some encouraging evidence that the club is on the up.
But he didn't get it at the Reebok and that, he says, shows that his side needs real surgery.
"We were happy to be safe last week, but is that it?" he asked. "Do we celebrate all summer?
"I take nothing away from the players because a lot of things have gone against them and they've coped with a great deal.
"But we are Sunderland and 'survival' is not a word we want to be using next season.
"I remember a few years ago Everton stayed up on the last day and people were celebrating and were in tears and I'm thinking: 'that's Everton Football Club, you know.' And I don't want to be walking on the pitch in the final game taking applause just because we've stayed up.
"I want to think bigger than that.
"We've lost 22 now games this season and people keep telling me we have had a good season. I'm lucky to still have my job!
"Maybe when I'm on a beach somewhere this summer I might think differently. I might look back and think, yeah, that was a decent season. But I just don't think it's a time to celebrate, just because you've stayed up.
"We've lost 22 games and I guarantee you, I'll be thinking of all the defeats when I'm on my holiday – they are the games I'll remember.
"I've always been like that. I must be a naturally miserable person, I must be. It's my family I'm thinking about because they've got to live with me – it's a good thing that my players don't live with me.
"At Sunderland, survival shouldn't be described as success. Maybe I'm from a different planet, maybe I am.
"I'll find out how much is available in the next couple of weeks but Niall Quinn and Peter Walker were at the Reebok and they'll have seen we're short."
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Links so far
In
Darren Huckerby - Norwich - Must be some kind of sick joke
Steven Hunt - Reading - Yes again, don't see the point as the same as what we have at the minute - £5,000,000
Richard Dunne - Man City £6,000,000
Stephen Ireland - Man City £8,000,000
Zarate - Birmingham ( if relegated) £10,000,000
Out
Kenwyn - Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea so far expect the other teams from the top 10 in the prem to get a mention very soon.
Dwight - Australia.
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isnt dwight getting an extra year extension??
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Kev- i really hope dem figures u put was a typo!
cause i reallllyyyyy do not know how British get overpriced so easily.
i think i read some report where Michael Johnson of Man City and Gareth Barry were being tracked by Liverpool and both were around the same price...10mil or more..cant remember the exact figure
ok michael johnson might have started iff brightly, but he has dropped off a lot...
u pay that much jus for potential?! madnesssssss!
men hadda prove themselves..not play a 5-10 good games and get rate up
not Richard Dunne at 6 mil. aint too bad...still overpriced for me....he played well this season but also had a good stringof bad games....but how the market is , it doesnt seem that figure would be lower
i'd price him around 4 mil.
Stephen ireland...aammmm...eh know how is a 8mil. he could get ...i know all these links are rumours for now but still....he inconsistent and erratic behav. off d field....
he a youth and his head aint on straight i guess...but 8 mil...hmmmm
study how they could get good young players abroad for half d price....that should bring down these prices!! study Darrent bent and Henry were the same price last yr! how...i dont know
and plz dont tell me anything bout age!!
Zarate at 10mil?!? wtf?! man come and score 4 hurry goal and das d price tag..lol
hope Sunderland invest their money elsewhere if thas d case
If kenwyne stay, they need a experienced, proven striker to help him along...
who say stern? lol nah but on a serious note....maybe a player with experience like Santa cruz (but that aint happening and not practical---jus callin off the top of my head)
or maybe martins for example
what ya think?
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AZZURRI I give in trying to guess prices I am only putting the rumour figure up. But be prepared to be shocked this summer prices will be silly for mediorce players.
Dunne / Ireland seem way over priced to me
Zarate was a Argentian Junior bought by Al Saad (qatar) and I think that price is what they want they paid for him rather than based on what he has done so far.
Dwight might get a player / coach role but if he does don't expect him to play much.
As I said papers will publish anything along with crazy prices ( remember the prices are leaked by the agents) most are wish list prices.
I expect to club to spend at least £50,000,000 iprobably more, I also expect a few foriegn players as they are cheaper / better than english players.
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Only James Beattie today - no comment
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Carlton Cole - West Ham - £2,000,000
Albert Adomah - Barnet - £1,000,000
The club will probably issue a retained list / transfer list this or next week, expect a few on it.
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carlton cole is a good deal......needs keane to nuture him a little but i can see him and kenwyne being about 10-12 goals each
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Carlton Cole? Seems like he's been considered potential forever. How old is he now?
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Carlton Cole? Seems like he's been considered potential forever. How old is he now?
well i believe he still playin with the English U 21 side.
and tuh be honest him and Kenwyne are not too different in playin style and really... in physique theyre fairly similar aswell.
Hell, I think if Keane brings in Cole, some decent midfielders that can HOLD up the ball, CONTROL the play, get some fluent, composed sensible passing I think Kenwyne could have a bright future with Sunderland.
I mean it'd be nice to see him go to a big club, but at the same time wouldn't the only thing that would be better than a Man U would be for Kenwyne and co to turn Sunderland into a team that can contest Man U.
Shake up the prem, a bit.
far fetched perhaps... but really, they managed to stay up with a team that has probably the most inconsistent chemistry in the prem.
get the passin game under wraps and big things ina de makin.
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Carlton Cole? Seems like he's been considered potential forever. How old is he now?
well i believe he still playin with the English U 21 side.
and tuh be honest him and Kenwyne are not too different in playin style and really... in physique theyre fairly similar aswell.
Hell, I think if Keane brings in Cole, some decent midfielders that can HOLD up the ball, CONTROL the play, get some fluent, composed sensible passing I think Kenwyne could have a bright future with Sunderland.
I mean it'd be nice to see him go to a big club, but at the same time wouldn't the only thing that would be better than a Man U would be for Kenwyne and co to turn Sunderland into a team that can contest Man U.
Shake up the prem, a bit.
far fetched perhaps... but really, they managed to stay up with a team that has probably the most inconsistent chemistry in the prem.
get the passin game under wraps and big things ina de makin.
I agree that he might be a useful addition but ah find it hard to believe he still under 21.
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He was born in Nov 1983... he will be 25 this year. (Carlton Cole)
I personally don't think he is a good buy...
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Dat sound more like it.
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to avoid all de talk and question bout man worth, i hope a big club buy KY(a la Dwight Yorke) and he just move to get better and better and let Keane deal wid whomever he want or don't want!
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To be honest there is hardly any great players available. If there is any left, RK has a lot of persuading to do to get them to Sunderland.
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To be honest there is hardly any great players available. If there is any left, RK has a lot of persuading to do to get them to Sunderland.
They ain't looking for great. They just looking for better than what they have.
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Carlton Cole? Seems like he's been considered potential forever. How old is he now?
well i believe he still playin with the English U 21 side.
and tuh be honest him and Kenwyne are not too different in playin style and really... in physique theyre fairly similar aswell.
Hell, I think if Keane brings in Cole, some decent midfielders that can HOLD up the ball, CONTROL the play, get some fluent, composed sensible passing I think Kenwyne could have a bright future with Sunderland.
I mean it'd be nice to see him go to a big club, but at the same time wouldn't the only thing that would be better than a Man U would be for Kenwyne and co to turn Sunderland into a team that can contest Man U.
Shake up the prem, a bit.
far fetched perhaps... but really, they managed to stay up with a team that has probably the most inconsistent chemistry in the prem.
get the passin game under wraps and big things ina de makin.
I agree that he might be a useful addition but ah find it hard to believe he still under 21.
strange... guess he isnt... well they referred to him yesterday as carlton cole the england u 21... didnt read anything about former.
oh well.
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carlton cole is a goat
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carlton cole is a goat
I think that is a bit unfair, on goats
Please remember this is just paper talk.
Hunt again from a different paper
Players Released (Contracts Up)
Andy Cole
Ian Harte
Steven Wright
Stans Varga
Players that have already been told they can find another club this season
Liam Miller
Ross Wallace
Greg Halford
expect a few more after the weekend, especially if missing from teh team on Sunday and started against Bolton
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Keane releases Sunderland quartet
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7389966.stm
Sunderland boss Roy Keane has begun his summer cull by telling four players he will not be renewing their deals.
Veteran striker Andy Cole along with defenders Ian Harte, Stanislav Varga and Stephen Wright have all been released by the Wearside club.
Keane vowed to shake up his squad after securing the club's Premier League future for next season.
He now reportedly wants the Sunderland board to give him another £50m to bring in new players for the next campaign.
Keane said: "I have sat down with Andy, Ian, Stephen and Stan and they won't be getting new contracts."
Cole and Varga had only just returned to training with Sunderland from their respective loan spells at Burnley.
Dwight Yorke is still negotiating, but more of a coach role
Cole, 36, joined up with his former Manchester United team-mate Keane on a one-year deal last summer but only made five appearances for the Black Cats.
Former Leeds player Harte was also brought in by Keane, who he played alongside for the Republic of Ireland, in 2007.
Varga joined Sunderland from Celtic in 2006, while Wright joined from Liverpool in 2002 for £3m and recently had a spell on loan at Stoke
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=14818
Keane begins summer clear-out
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By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane has begun his summer clear-out - telling a number of players they will not be offered a new contract.
Andy Cole, Stanislav Varga, Stephen Wright and Ian Harte are among those who will leave the club next month.
Dwight Yorke is also out of contract but his future is yet to be decided.
Keane said: "We've spoken to the lads who are under contract until the end of the season and told them they won't be getting another one.
"I've had a chat with Yorkie and we are due another discussion next week, he has one or two options.
"It's not as if it has to be done this week - contracts don't expire until the end of June - but it's only fair to put the players in the picture.
"Every player has contributed, be it this season or last, and I want to put on record my thanks to them."
Yorke, 36, has expressed a desire to go into coaching after his playing career ends and is currently doing his badges. But Keane says the midfielder wants to play on for another year before hanging up his boots.
Peter Hartley, Gavin Donoghue, Billy Dennehy and Jake Richardson - all first-year professionals at the Stadium of Light - are also out of contract and due to leave the club.
Graham Kavanagh, Greg Halford and Russell Anderson returned to the Academy of Light this week after loan spells with Championship clubs - all three are under contract at Sunderland for another year at least.
"They have all gone out and done themselves no harm, it shows a good side to them," said Keane. "They are our players, they are back and we'll see how things pan out."
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No real gossip today Roy has definately got his angry head on so expect a few suprises. News on Kenwyn and Dwight below.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/09/sunderland.premierleague
Keane warns rival clubs to keep their hands off his Sunderland 'untouchables'
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* Louise Taylor
* The Guardian,
* Friday May 9 2008
Roy Keane has said that Kenwyne Jones will not be sold at any price.
Roy Keane has warned any predatory clubs that Kenwyne Jones and Craig Gordon are not for sale. The Sunderland manager yesterday described his centre-forward and goalkeeper as "untouchables".
"No sometimes really means yes in the transfer market but in the cases of Kenwyne and Craig no means no without a doubt," said Keane, who has released the out-of-contract Andy Cole, Ian Harte and Stanislav Varga. "Kenwyne and our goalkeeper are definitely not going anywhere. There are certain players who are untouchable.
"Sometimes a club might think they might get £20m or £30m and invest it and it's a good deal for everyone but it certainly wouldn't be a good deal for us to let Kenwyne or our goalkeeper go. It would set us back a hell of a lot. They are no-gos - even if we were offered crazy money."
Happily for Keane, Jones, a £6m buy from Southampton last summer who has caught the eye of Liverpool's Rafael Benítez and Chelsea's Avram Grant, yesterday pledged his loyalty to Sunderland. "Hopefully I'll be here for a long time," said the 23-year-old. "You don't want to be a gypsy type player where you're moving from one place to another and not settling. It's flattering that clubs are interested in me but at the moment I'm focused on my job that I have to do here."
While Jones has been likened to Chelsea's Didier Drogba, Gordon - a £9m buy from Hearts last summer - is not quite so feted and was dropped for a period by Keane during the middle of the season.
Yet while Gordon has his critics, Sunderland's manager believes his goalkeeper is potentially the planet's best. "I think Craig is a brilliant goalkeeper," enthused Keane. "He is a young man and this year he's done OK for us but I've no doubt that, in the next few years, he'll become one of the best in the world, if not the best. What he's lacking at the moment is experience. And particularly in our team this season he has been tested. He really has.
"The biggest pluses this year have been him and Kenwyne. All our players have so much to learn but the good thing with those two is that I look at them and they want to learn. I'm not sure with some of the others that they want to learn too much."
While Keane is planning a sizeable squad clear-out this summer, he hopes to persuade Dwight Yorke to remain on Wearside for another season, possibly in a player-coaching role. However, the veteran former Manchester United forward is understood to be attracted by rival offers from Australia.
"I'm doing a lot of chatting at the moment and I had a chat with Yorkie and will have another one next week," he explained. "He's got one or two choices and he's weighing up his options."
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According to the star Roy has £50,000,000 to spend and he will be spending most of it on
Diego Forlan
Richard Dunne
Aiden McGready
This is a neat trick since he has a meeting next week to find out how much he has as the following article tends to bear out.
http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=sport-qqqm=sport-qqqa=sport-qqqid=62384-qqqx=1.asp
10 May 2008
Keane: Miller can still save Sunderland career
ROY KEANE insists there is still time for Liam Miller to rescue his Sunderland career.
The Republic of Ireland midfielder was slapped on the transfer list by manager Keane after being late for training on several occasions.
But Keane has since had no complaints about Miller’s timekeeping and has brought him back into the first-team fold.
The Corkman was hauled off after an hour of the 2-0 defeat at Bolton a week ago when Keane warned that some players had run out of chances.
But Keane explained: “Liam has done very well. He’s got a year left on his contract so we’ll see how that pans out over the summer.
“He’s shown a good attitude — and most importantly, he’s been on time! You might laugh, but when you’re on time, it gives you a chance.
“Liam would have been disappointed with his performance last week, but his best position is in the middle of the park and we played him a little bit towards the right.”
Keane, who this week confirmed that Ian Harte, Andy Cole, Stan Varga and Stephen Wright will be released when their contracts run out this summer, also transfer-listed former Celtic winger Ross Wallace.
“I said to Ian Harte a few months ago that he might be best moving on and part of the job I have enjoyed is people showing me a good attitude.
“I think it’s important that we don’t focus on one or two players who have annoyed me of late with their attitude.
“Let’s focus on those who have shown a good attitude and that would be big Stan Vargas and lads who are leaving.”
Keane, whose side end their season at home to Arsenal tomorrow, says he will go for “quality, not quantity” in the transfer market this summer in a bid to build on the Black Cats’ top-flight survival.
He is booked for talks with chairman Niall Quinn and chief executive Peter Walker next week, when he will hope to be handed a war- chest of around £50m (€63m).
But Keane was in jocular mood when he said: “I haven’t a clue what’s going to happen. I don’t know what their plans are in terms of what money is available. I was told last summer what was available, and I’m sure I’ll be told next week what’s available this time.
“I will be a lot wiser at this meeting than I was last year and a lot more aware of what is needed in the Premier League because we’ve found out that the gap between the Championship and the Premier League is massive.
“I don’t think we should predict what will happen next week. I might not be here next week! I haven’t got a figure in my head. They might surprise me — they might say £200m and I might fall off my chair!
“With Peter Walker, it’ll be 200 grand maybe! No, I haven’t got my mind set on anything. I have a list of players I want and, trust me, the list is not that big. Last year we had a long list.
“The priority will be getting players who will take us to the next level. We’re not going to try to sign players with a fancy name or long hair.
“Getting the money next week might not be the hard part, it might be getting the players in. We want to bring players in who will excite the fans, but I need exciting, Jesus!
“Remember, we didn’t get the opportunity to speak to one or two players last year because a player said his wife wanted to go to London.
“I can’t get my head round that.
“I always believe Sunderland is an attraction, but I realise we have to pay the money.
“Lots of people say ‘no’. I bet Everton said no to Manchester United when they asked about Wayne Rooney, but sometimes ‘no’ means ‘yes’ — if you know what I mean. Most of the players we would hope to bring to the club would be based on these islands. We wouldn’t be bringing in as many as 10 players, but probably more than five. Make it seven-and-a-half!”
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Keene sounding real anxious here in this interview. It seems as if he wants to get into the transfer market as early as possible.
I wish him well. If he gets a player of Richard Dunne's class, he would do well.
ah love it!!
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Those are 3 excellent signings mentioned there if Keane can get them...
Stephen Ireland from Man City also has plenty potential..
I doubt Forlan giving up Champions league next year to go any Sunderland.
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An informative thread …. good.
First of all about the money: for a while now I have been trying to understand how much and how quickly can investors in Prem teams make money; with the related question – should the board give Keane ₤50m. Keane spent about ₤40m at the start of the season, and a significant sum the year before, to get the team to the Premiere League. Now given that the League gave the club only about ₤30m, at the start of the season, it seams as though the club is carrying a lot of operational debt, from the prior two seasons. Gate receipts take care of wages, buildings etc and how much more is gained from those receipts. In the coming season (08-09) the club would again get only about ₤30m from the league. Now it is true that because the club is staying up, its value is growing, but how much is that factor. The bottom line is, why are the investors willing to risk that much? Why don’t they pocket most of the money (recovering their investment, plus a little profit) and say to Keane ``here is ₤20m, buy one striker and keep us up, then next year you will get more.’’ After all if they go down next year, and the ₤50m was invested, it would be a big loss.
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The Trini's
Dwight has done a great job for the club and as it stands its either Australia or a caoching role at the club, I can't honestly see him getting many games due to his age next season, it happens to us all. Whichever it is, I wish the lad well and he has been a credit.
Carlos has been a miss this season and the season has been a right off for the lad. We are none the wiser if he can hack it in the premiership as yet as its unfair to judge him. He needs to get his head right, I think the games he has played he hasn't been match sharp and the injury seems to be on his mind when playing. Coming home and playing fot T&T in the summer will help, but he needs to sort it out. A big season for Carlos next season as there is no way the club will go into next season without buying in a right sided player, it simply can't afford to. So I expect Carlos to face serious competition for his place next season, so he needs to come back fighting fit. From a personal perspective I hope he does and plays over 30 games next season.
Kenwyn, well could of called this "Where is KJ Going Today Thread". He has already been linked with a number of clubs and this will gather pace as the summer goes on, most will just be paper talk. I do expect someone to bid for him, how he reacts is up to him. Without doubt we would of been dead and buried without Kenwyn this year, but every player has his price. If the club get offered really serious money for him, then there is a chance he will move on. He has enormous potential but still a lot to learn. Sunderland have helped his reputation by playing to his strengths this season, I don't want to see them playing to the same strengths next season, as it will be another season of struggle. That is not getting at Kenwyn, that is simply pointing to a lack of quality behind him, but will he be as effective with better quality behind him? So I don't honestly know if Kenwyn will be at Sunderland at the start of next season.
I have put Roy's interview with the echo and links so far on replys to break this monologue up a bit (sorry!). I will update it regularly ( remember RUMOURS) and watch for any abuse( you know who I am talking about ;))
I agree with much of this frank assessment!
Nonetheless I think that a player-coach role would be good for Yorke and the club.
No one expects Yorke to be starting in a lot of games. But Yorke can come on for the last 30 min and still be very effective. Reid and Richardson are above Yorke in the pecking order. Now assuming that Sunderland brings in two midfielders, one who is better than Reid and Richardson, and a trainee, then Yorke still fits into the picture as a useful sub. And in a season where injuries can wipe out whole sections at a time, the backup is important. One thing that I was amazed by this season is that Yorke’s quality is still very good. It is true that he is not fast anymore, but the touch and control of the ball is still there. It is interesting how some players’ age. Some age with grace and quality intact, while for others it falls away very quickly.
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Keane also has to be careful of attempting to rehaul entire squads..... New signings take a while to gel properly and be cohesive. To me, 3 or 4 sold signings in STRATEGIC POSITIONS on the field may be all he needs to build on this season. Then the following season you strengthen more.
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An informative thread …. good.
First of all about the money: for a while now I have been trying to understand how much and how quickly can investors in Prem teams make money; with the related question – should the board give Keane ₤50m. Keane spent about ₤40m at the start of the season, and a significant sum the year before, to get the team to the Premiere League. Now given that the League gave the club only about ₤30m, at the start of the season, it seams as though the club is carrying a lot of operational debt, from the prior two seasons. Gate receipts take care of wages, buildings etc and how much more is gained from those receipts. In the coming season (08-09) the club would again get only about ₤30m from the league. Now it is true that because the club is staying up, its value is growing, but how much is that factor. The bottom line is, why are the investors willing to risk that much? Why don’t they pocket most of the money (recovering their investment, plus a little profit) and say to Keane ``here is ₤20m, buy one striker and keep us up, then next year you will get more.’’ After all if they go down next year, and the ₤50m was invested, it would be a big loss.
You apparently have never heard about the parachute payments...
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The Transfer maket is also a sign of a top calss manager...not only 4-4-2 and 3-5-2 da da da...
how well they use this with whatever the budget....its a whole process...the training ground is much eaiser
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Good Afternoon All ... What about Birchall to Sunderland?
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An informative thread …. good.
First of all about the money: for a while now I have been trying to understand how much and how quickly can investors in Prem teams make money; with the related question – should the board give Keane ₤50m. Keane spent about ₤40m at the start of the season, and a significant sum the year before, to get the team to the Premiere League. Now given that the League gave the club only about ₤30m, at the start of the season, it seams as though the club is carrying a lot of operational debt, from the prior two seasons. Gate receipts take care of wages, buildings etc and how much more is gained from those receipts. In the coming season (08-09) the club would again get only about ₤30m from the league. Now it is true that because the club is staying up, its value is growing, but how much is that factor. The bottom line is, why are the investors willing to risk that much? Why don’t they pocket most of the money (recovering their investment, plus a little profit) and say to Keane ``here is ₤20m, buy one striker and keep us up, then next year you will get more.’’ After all if they go down next year, and the ₤50m was invested, it would be a big loss.
You apparently have never heard about the parachute payments...
and he entirely missed where most of the money for staying in the EPL is coming from.. the lucrative tv rights
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Good Afternoon All ... What about Birchall to Sunderland?
They already have him. Except they call him Grant Leadbitter.
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An informative thread …. good.
First of all about the money: for a while now I have been trying to understand how much and how quickly can investors in Prem teams make money; with the related question – should the board give Keane ₤50m. Keane spent about ₤40m at the start of the season, and a significant sum the year before, to get the team to the Premiere League. Now given that the League gave the club only about ₤30m, at the start of the season, it seams as though the club is carrying a lot of operational debt, from the prior two seasons. Gate receipts take care of wages, buildings etc and how much more is gained from those receipts. In the coming season (08-09) the club would again get only about ₤30m from the league. Now it is true that because the club is staying up, its value is growing, but how much is that factor. The bottom line is, why are the investors willing to risk that much? Why don’t they pocket most of the money (recovering their investment, plus a little profit) and say to Keane ``here is ₤20m, buy one striker and keep us up, then next year you will get more.’’ After all if they go down next year, and the ₤50m was invested, it would be a big loss.
First off the club had £30,000,000 in debt when the presnt owners bought it for some £15,000,000. In essence the club stands them some £45,000,000. The club at that point had just gained the record for the lowest premiership points and looked like it could be heading for the old 3rd Division again.
Roy Keane became manager in August 2006, just before transfer deadline, he signed something like 7 players on the last day a good few on loan. His nett spend for that season was something in the region of £5,000,000 (£11,000,000 in £6,000,000 out).
The club own its ground and academy so there is no debt there.
Getting into the premiership last year was worth about £40,000,000 and its £720,000 per position. There are 2 seasons of parachute payments of £12,000,000 ( I think). The clubs are also guaranteed to be on TV ( 8 times I think) as a minimum each time brings in another £500,000.
Keane had no choice in having to spend that money as the team that came up would simply of not survived, to put it into perspective Liverpool spend £28,000,000 on Torres.
I beleive the plan was:-
1. To get promotion ( this year rather than last so it came as a suprise last year)
2. To secure premiership survival.
3. Build the team up to mid table
4. Challenge for trophies.
Part of the problem of attracting players was the yoyo history of the club, also last summer it needed to avoid the senario of being relegated with premiership wage bill so as to avoid catrasophe. In order to do this the club has relegation clauses in the players contracts so the pay is cut if relegation happens. This will still be the case this summer, but is llikely to be relaxed for some targets so they will come to the club. This only becomes a big problem if the whole squad is on these kind of contracts rather than a few players you can move on fairly easily.
From the investors perspective the club has probably doubled in value so their investment so far has made them a tidy profit, nothing wrong with that as they took a significant risk. As you are well aware business are value on turnover the bigger the turnover the bigger the value usually as long as sustainable. The investors seem to be treating the club as a start up investment which usually sees losses and significant investment requirements in the early years.
By investing significantly in players and gaining further success the turnover can increase rapidly. 10 places improvement in the premiership is worth an extra £7,200,000 along with this will be sold out games every week, increasing revenue and season ticket sales. The club held prices this season for those that renewed before the clubs fate was known, but increased them by 10% otherwise , this will improve the following seasons reciepts providing premiership football is being played. In addition if the club is successful it will be on TV more than the minimum guarantee hence increasing revenue again. A better squad should give you a chance of Cup run which again invreases revenue. Looking further ahead European Cup football is worth between £10,000,000 and £12,000,000 a season plus TV and Champions League £25,000,000 plus TV.
The major profit for the investors comes from invreasing the clubs value not the odd couple of million a year, but to do that the club needs heavy investment. The team / squad is simply not good enough to improve that position 1/2 players wont make that much difference. I believe the club is trying to get a squad that can easily survive in the premiership then look to add 2/3 real quality players that can make that difference.
Any club coming up from the championship will find it difficult to survive due to the difference in quality, there will be exceptions but for the most part it wil take quite a bit of money. In Sunderlands case it took more because of the standard of our squad. Once in the premiership if you don't constantly invest or sell your best players you will face the annual struggle against relegation, most will get lucky most years but it will happen eventually. Wigan, Reading a few others try to just cling on in there without the proper investment.
I hope that explains it a bit and makes sense.
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WOW Thanks Kev..... maybe ah shouldn't have that last drink... I'll re-read it in the morning...
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In
Michael Tonge - Sheffield Utd
Stephen Hunt - Reading
Kevin Doyle - Reading
Out
Keiran Richardson to West Brom (used to be there on loan)
Paul McShane to West Brom ( bought from West Brom)
Roy has already stated the players winding down last week could wind down the rest of the summer because they will be sold. So whoevers missing today basically will be shifted. I don't think all is well with Roy and Kieran.
On his latest interview he has said very little is likely to happen for 6-8 weeks as he has his holiday, goes to New Zealand with the All Blacks ( Coaching Badge) and European Championships. He says he has learnt from his mistakes, I hope so because he needs to be better in the transfer market this summer.
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An informative thread …. good.
First of all about the money: for a while now I have been trying to understand how much and how quickly can investors in Prem teams make money; with the related question – should the board give Keane ₤50m. Keane spent about ₤40m at the start of the season, and a significant sum the year before, to get the team to the Premiere League. Now given that the League gave the club only about ₤30m, at the start of the season, it seams as though the club is carrying a lot of operational debt, from the prior two seasons. Gate receipts take care of wages, buildings etc and how much more is gained from those receipts. In the coming season (08-09) the club would again get only about ₤30m from the league. Now it is true that because the club is staying up, its value is growing, but how much is that factor. The bottom line is, why are the investors willing to risk that much? Why don’t they pocket most of the money (recovering their investment, plus a little profit) and say to Keane ``here is ₤20m, buy one striker and keep us up, then next year you will get more.’’ After all if they go down next year, and the ₤50m was invested, it would be a big loss.
First off the club had £30,000,000 in debt when the presnt owners bought it for some £15,000,000. In essence the club stands them some £45,000,000. The club at that point had just gained the record for the lowest premiership points and looked like it could be heading for the old 3rd Division again.
Roy Keane became manager in August 2006, just before transfer deadline, he signed something like 7 players on the last day a good few on loan. His nett spend for that season was something in the region of £5,000,000 (£11,000,000 in £6,000,000 out).
The club own its ground and academy so there is no debt there.
Getting into the premiership last year was worth about £40,000,000 and its £720,000 per position. There are 2 seasons of parachute payments of £12,000,000 ( I think). The clubs are also guaranteed to be on TV ( 8 times I think) as a minimum each time brings in another £500,000.
Keane had no choice in having to spend that money as the team that came up would simply of not survived, to put it into perspective Liverpool spend £28,000,000 on Torres.
I beleive the plan was:-
1. To get promotion ( this year rather than last so it came as a suprise last year)
2. To secure premiership survival.
3. Build the team up to mid table
4. Challenge for trophies.
Part of the problem of attracting players was the yoyo history of the club, also last summer it needed to avoid the senario of being relegated with premiership wage bill so as to avoid catrasophe. In order to do this the club has relegation clauses in the players contracts so the pay is cut if relegation happens. This will still be the case this summer, but is llikely to be relaxed for some targets so they will come to the club. This only becomes a big problem if the whole squad is on these kind of contracts rather than a few players you can move on fairly easily.
From the investors perspective the club has probably doubled in value so their investment so far has made them a tidy profit, nothing wrong with that as they took a significant risk. As you are well aware business are value on turnover the bigger the turnover the bigger the value usually as long as sustainable. The investors seem to be treating the club as a start up investment which usually sees losses and significant investment requirements in the early years.
By investing significantly in players and gaining further success the turnover can increase rapidly. 10 places improvement in the premiership is worth an extra £7,200,000 along with this will be sold out games every week, increasing revenue and season ticket sales. The club held prices this season for those that renewed before the clubs fate was known, but increased them by 10% otherwise , this will improve the following seasons reciepts providing premiership football is being played. In addition if the club is successful it will be on TV more than the minimum guarantee hence increasing revenue again. A better squad should give you a chance of Cup run which again invreases revenue. Looking further ahead European Cup football is worth between £10,000,000 and £12,000,000 a season plus TV and Champions League £25,000,000 plus TV.
The major profit for the investors comes from invreasing the clubs value not the odd couple of million a year, but to do that the club needs heavy investment. The team / squad is simply not good enough to improve that position 1/2 players wont make that much difference. I believe the club is trying to get a squad that can easily survive in the premiership then look to add 2/3 real quality players that can make that difference.
Any club coming up from the championship will find it difficult to survive due to the difference in quality, there will be exceptions but for the most part it wil take quite a bit of money. In Sunderlands case it took more because of the standard of our squad. Once in the premiership if you don't constantly invest or sell your best players you will face the annual struggle against relegation, most will get lucky most years but it will happen eventually. Wigan, Reading a few others try to just cling on in there without the proper investment.
I hope that explains it a bit and makes sense.
That explains alot. Since I am heavy in the investing thing I would have loved to buy some stock in the team early last year.
Thank Kev for the info.
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Jones named player of the season (http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=14829)
By Nick Alexander
Kenwyne Jones is Sunderland's 2007-08 Player of the Season.
The 23-year-old striker has won the award in his first season at the Stadium of Light after an outstanding campaign. Jones has scored seven goals this term - and provided 10 assists.
"I feel very happy, it's a great moment, it's an honour," said Jones. "I feel good but it is not just my award, my team-mates have helped a lot this season.
"When you work all season to play well, to do something good for the team, and then at the end the supporters give you this award, it is a great motivation to carry on, to work more and to get better."
Jonny Evans, the centre-back on-loan from Manchester United, picked up the Young Player of the Year award for a second season running. He said: "I'm very honoured, the fans have taken to me and it's great."
Jones beat off competition from Danny Collins, named 2007-08 player of the season by the Supporters' Association, and Nyron Nosworthy to become Player of the Season.
Jones and Evans will receive their awards from Carl Blenkinsop and Kirsty Coates - two Sunderland supporters - before Sunday's game against Arsenal.
Carl and Kirsty were picked at random from everyone who voted in the Player of the Season poll on safc.com. There were nearly 10,000 voters.
The results are as follows:
Player of the Year
1) Kenwyne Jones 96,810 (points)
2) Danny Collins 69,690
3) Nyron Nosworthy 22,160
4) Craig Gordon 13,060
5) Andy Reid 11,030
Young Player of the Year
1) Jonny Evans 129,180
2) Grant Leadbitter 16,920
The points were allocated as follows:
First choice Player of the Season - 20 points; second choice - 10 points.
First choice Young Player of the Season - 10 points.
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http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=14844&fixture=2849482&t=1
Sunderland - Arsenal Pre-Match
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane says Sunderland "owe" their fans a good performance on the last day of the season.
The Black Cats finish their 2007-08 campaign with a sell-out home match against Arsenal.
And Keane reckons it offers his side a big chance to say thank-you for the support they have received this season.
Keane said: "People have asked whether I think they [the players] owe me. But I don't think it's a question of owing anything to me.
"They owe it to themselves and they owe it to their team-mates and the supporters and the club itself to give a performance which they and everybody else can be proud of.
"We've got a big crowd and we owe it to them to give a display which will send them into the close season in a good mood."
Sunderland have failed to take a point from games against the Premier League's top five teams this season.
Keane added: "It's tough, we've been close to taking points from the top teams on a few occasions.
"I think the most disappointing thing this season is the number of times we've been close to winning or getting a draw but not being able to see it through.
"Arsenal are an excellent side, they've got a great squad and will come up here looking for the win.
"I think it's a great game to look forward to. It's great that our season ends against a brilliant team like them and it's fortunate for us that we are safe and nothing depends on the result.
"But I want us to finish the season properly and I'm expecting a much better performance from my players than we got last week.
"I think it's important we finish the season well because you don't want to go into the close season in bad form.
"I haven't finalised my team but there's probably not going to be massive changes, it's not as if we've got 10 players waiting in the wings."
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If selected:-
Grant LEADBITTER will be making his 100th club career appearance (Sunderland and Rotherham).
Home and away
League (inc PL): Sunderland 43 wins, Arsenal 45, Draws 33
Prem: Sunderland 2 wins, Arsenal 8, Draws 3
at Sunderland only
League (inc PL): Sunderland 28 wins, Arsenal 12, Draws 20
Prem: Sunderland 2 wins, Arsenal 2, Draws 2
THIS SEASON'S REVERSE FIXTURE
Arsenal 3-2 Sunderland
7 October 2007 - Ref: Rob Styles
Arsenal scorers: Van Persie 7, Senderos 14, Van Persie 80
Sunderland scorers: Wallace 25, Jones 48
Sent Off: McShane (Sunderland) 90
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It was a decent game, Keane.
SAFC.com
Roy Keane's reaction to Sunderland's defeat to Arsenal:
"I thought it was a decent game. We played some good stuff and I generally enjoyed the game. We carved out some good chances and we should have scored.
"But if I've said it once, I've said it a number of times - if you get chances, especially against the big clubs, you've got to take them.
"I think Arsenal had one good, clear-cut chance and they took it; we had two or three great chances and we didn't take them. We paid for that, but overall I thought the performance was quite good today.
"It shows how well our lads have done when you look at the league - the two teams that came up with us have gone down. You have to praise the players for the job they have done.
"Birmingham and Reading took points from Arsenal and [Manchester] United and look at them, they got relegated, so I'm not too disappointed that we've not taken points against the top teams, that was never going to make or break our season.
"The best team always wins the league and the three worst teams go down. We're the 15th best team and we need to improve the quality of the squad.
"It's going to be an interesting summer. I'm due a meeting wit Niall [Quinn] and Peter Walker tomorrow and we'll identify the kind of players we go for.
"We have to look at players we think will improve the team but it won't be easy.
"Today we had some good chances late on and it's been a trademark of us this season. Can you imagine where we'd be without the last-minute goals?
[On Dwight Yorke]
"We saw the best of Yorkie today, that system suits him. He got a good ovation from the supporters, I think they appreciate what he's done for the club. We'll sit down over the next few days and decide what the future holds for him.
[On Jonny Evans]
"Jonny was outstanding today. Would I like to bring him to the football club? You bet your life I would. But he's under contract at United and we've got to be respectful to them, their season is not finished.
"You saw 48,000 there today and we've just about kept them happy this season, but, like me, they will want more next season.
"There was a great atmosphere and the players enjoyed showing their appreciation at the end."
http://www.safc.com/index.php?page_id=14849
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Congrats to Sunderland for maintaining their spot in the top flight for another year :beermug:
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Congrats to Sunderland for maintaining their spot in the top flight for another year :beermug:
here here :beermug:
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Toadys gem is
Kevin Foley - Wolves Right Back - 2,500,000
He is Irish so always going to be linked, not the first won't be the last this summer
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No new links today, but I thought I would post this article up quoting one of the owners, don't know how accurate the figure is on Kenwyns salary, but would of thought not far off the mark.
http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=sport-qqqm=
sport-qqqa=sport-qqqid=62608-qqqx=1.asp
Chawke: we’ll meet Keane’s €63m war-chest demand
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ROY KEANE will be handed his£50m (€63m) transfer budget by the Sunderland board, according to Drummaville consortium member Charlie Chawke.
The Wearsiders secured their top flight status in their first season after winning promotion from the Championship but Keane — who spent £44m (€55.4m) in the last two transfer windows — wants to embark on another significant spending spree to ensure a more comfortable campaign next year.
The Corkman has suggested he requires a £50m (€63m) kitty for signings and has also urged the Stadium of Light hierarchy to significantly increase the budget set aside for player wages. The club’s current top earner is striker Kenwyne Jones, who is paid £25,000 (€31,500)-a-week, but Keane is adamant that unless the club start matching terms offered by north-east rivals Newcastle and Middlesbrough, they will continue to struggle.
Keane is due to meet chairman Niall Quinn and key members of the Drummaville group in the next 48 hours for talks over summer signings but Chawke insists all the manager’s demands will be met
“If £50m (€63m) is what he needs that’s it,” he said. “He can’t do it without the money. If that is the money that he needs well then some way or other he must get it. It is just a matter of getting it for him and going about it in a businesslike manner.
“Roy has had a very difficult year with trying to make Premier League players out of Championship ones. But he has got in some good players now, and now he will get in more players to consolidate our position in the Premier League for next year,” he told Sunderland fanzine A Love Supreme.
Keane has already drawn up a list of potential targets, with a new striker foremost in his thoughts. Kevin Doyle, the Reading striker, is a potential option, with the former Cork City forward expected to leave the Madejski this summer following the club’s relegation.
Diego Forlan is also much admired, although the Atletico Madrid striker’s wage demands could be prohibitive.
But Keane is aware that unless Sunderland break their tightly-controlled wage structure, his chances of persuading any to join are slim.
“It was very, very tough last summer and I am under no illusions that this summer is going to be any easier,” Keane said.
“We had one or two players last summer who wouldn’t even come up for talks — that’s what you are battling against. We have to strengthen, we need to be stronger for next season.”
Chalke, meanwhile, is already making plans on how to fill the Stadium of Light next season. Sunderland’s average attendance was 43,344, the fifth largest in the league but also 5,000 short of the ground’s capacity, and Chalke will investigate the possibility of organising more charter flights for Irish-based supporters to see home games.
“I would love to see 48,000 jammed in week after week — that would be a success for me,” he added. “Then we can take on the Manchester Uniteds and the Arsenals and so on. It is very difficult to get flights from Ireland to games. It is something we are looking to work on and the board will have to address it better than they are doing and get people in on charter flights if needs be because half of Ireland wants to go to Sunderland.”
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The board and the owners sound very ambitious.
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amm...now ah know black ppl have a habit of not bein kidnapped eh but amm..da kinda allowance KJ pocketin dey...i hope none of d criminal underworld does browse dis site
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Following the players being made available via relegation, out of contract and other circumstances..
what do you guys think of the feasibility of these guys as Sunderland targets:
- Lee Carsley (Everton - out of contract), but 34yrs old
- El Hadji Diouf (Botlon)
- Stephen Hunt (Reading)
- Nickey Shorey (Reading)
- Kevin Doyle (Reading)
- Steve Sidwell (Chelsea)
- Richard Dunne (Manchester City)
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Following the players being made available via relegation, out of contract and other circumstances..
what do you guys think of the feasibility of these guys as Sunderland targets:
- Lee Carsley (Everton - out of contract), but 34yrs old
- El Hadji Diouf (Botlon)
- Stephen Hunt (Reading)
- Nickey Shorey (Reading)
- Kevin Doyle (Reading)
- Steve Sidwell (Chelsea)
- Richard Dunne (Manchester City)
plenty irish on that list :devil:
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Keane should add Richardson to that chopping block - he is average at best ...I still picking Dwight to "dan it up" in de midfield over him - just not impressed with Richardson....
There biggest needs are in the middle of the field - center mids and defenders - Kenwyne just needs a man with vision and pace with him up top ...and yuh need a Makalele-type player to hold down the middle...with a strong central defensive pairing like Terry-Cavalho... why dey en make a play fuh Wes Brown?
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Keane should add Richardson to that chopping block - he is average at best ...I still picking Dwight to "dan it up" in de midfield over him - just not impressed with Richardson....
There biggest needs are in the middle of the field - center mids and defenders - Kenwyne just needs a man with vision and pace with him up top ...and yuh need a Makalele-type player to hold down the middle...with a strong central defensive pairing like Terry-Cavalho... why dey en make a play fuh Wes Brown?
They glad Wes Brown sign again with Man U. Dat mean they have a better shot of keeping Johnny Evans.
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Following the players being made available via relegation, out of contract and other circumstances..
what do you guys think of the feasibility of these guys as Sunderland targets:
- Lee Carsley (Everton - out of contract), but 34yrs old
- El Hadji Diouf (Botlon)
- Stephen Hunt (Reading)
- Nickey Shorey (Reading)
- Kevin Doyle (Reading)
- Steve Sidwell (Chelsea)
- Richard Dunne (Manchester City)
Trying to earn your money eh
Carsley I think is too old, I don't think teh owners are too keen on more players on the books like Harte, Cole Varga especially as RK seems to want to up teh wage bill significantly aswell.
EHD is not really RK kind of player attitude wise.
Doylle possible but not great in my eyes
hunt sick of hearing about him, got his new contract in Jan and disapeared for the rest of the season not keen at all personall, but I think RK is, he seems to get obsessed with the same palyers
Shorey has other teams chasing him and I understand he wants to saty doon sooth.
Sidwell again few clubs chasing him, he was a bosman to Chelsea so his wages are massive, there are rumours Chelsea are set to prune a bit this summer which will mean paying money to players to move for less wages.
Everybody is chasing Dunne, he is in the last year of his contract so can buy himself out of it, which will get him hefty wages, don't think he will make up his mind until the new manager comes in.
As for Richardson, he was late for training and was left out on Saturday, I think he might be on his way this summer, although he's been in the papers stressing he doesn't want to leave, I don't think all is well with him and RK.
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Mauro Zarate from birmingham is available for about 10m pounds..
would be a great buy to partner kenwyne up front.
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Content Sidwell open to Bridge exit
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8132742/Content-Sidwell-open-to-Bridge-exit
Updated: May 14, 2008, 8:44 AM EST 3 comments add this RSS blog email print Steve Sidwell's agent admits the midfielder is ready to leave Chelsea if an acceptable bid is lodged for him.
The 25-year-old is the subject of intense speculation with Middlesbrough, Everton and Sunderland all reported to be chasing him.
Boro are known admirers of the midfielder and tried to sign him before he was lured to Chelsea two-years ago when he left Reading on a Bosman transfer.
Sidwell's agent Eric Walters insists the player would like to remain at Stamford Bridge - but should any bids be accepted, he will then look at his future.
"Steven is very happy at Chelsea," his agent Eric Walters told the Evening Gazette.
"If Chelsea accept a bid for him then that will be a different matter and Steven would have to think about his future.
"I'm not saying he would welcome the offer or disregard it. If Middlesbrough made a bid and Chelsea accepted it then he would have to look at his options.
"His situation is he's under contract to Chelsea for another three years and there hasn't been any indication from the club that they want to sell him. Steven is happy to stay and fight for his place.
"It sometimes takes a year to bed in, especially when the manager who signs him moves on soon after his arrival."
Sidwell made 13 starts for Chelsea last term and 12 further substitute appearances
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Mauro Zarate from birmingham is available for about 10m pounds..
would be a great buy to partner kenwyne up front.
He's returned to his club, or thats the plan, I don't think he will leave the country as it is already reported he is talking to 2 prem teams. His side supposedly want £15,000,000 for him, but may let him out on loan for another year with an option to buy, no idea what the loan fee would be. He is a good prospect / player and would hope the club have at least shown an interest.
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I just heard Eto want to come to the EPL ;D
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I just heard Eto want to come to the EPL ;D
Apparently he is fairly easy to keep happy, just have a private jet so he van get to monte Carlo and back and its sorted.
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No real news last few days same links kickig about
Dunne
Sidwell
Tonge
Hunt
Hunt has come out and said he wont ask for a move but there is a get out clause in his contract. Translation I signed a new contract in January, got a nice rise and fee, I've got a loyalty bonus payment written into it, so I can't ask to leave as it will cost me money. Bid the right price and I am yours, as I don't want to be at Reading anymore really. I really hope RK is passed his obsession with him and we leave it alone, too expensive and too manipulating.
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=14877
Keane wants to add experience
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By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane has drawn up a summer shopping list of "five or six" players he believes will help Sunderland improve on this season's 15th-place finish in the Premier League.
Keane confirmed his list of targets to chairman Niall Quinn and chief executive Peter Walker at a meeting this week.
And on the list of most-wanted are players who will give Sunderland some "much-needed" experience at the top level of English football.
Keane said: "I don't expect to bring in the same amount of players as last year. I probably have five or six in mind, it's a small list of targets.
"The majority of the players I'm interested in are very much players who have played a lot of games in the Premier League, that's what our team has lacked.
"Look at the goals we have conceded at vital times, look at the way we started games slowly - it's because we lacked vital experience."
Keane believes the likes of Kenwyne Jones and Craig Gordon - players who have just experienced their first season in the Premier League - will be more effective next season.
"The group of players we've got will be stronger and wiser for next year, we have lacked experience this time around."
Keane also has a list of players he feels are surplus to requirements at the Stadium of Light.
"There are a few players we feel need to move on," he said. "I have a mindset of what a footballer should be and I try to set very high standards at the football club; whether it's in the youth team, the reserves or the first team.
"If people haven't got the same aims, it's best if they move on."
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Just noted that Sunderland did pretty well in attendance this season:
07-08 Premier League Attendances (avg)
75691 Man U
60070 Arsenal
50488 Newcastle
43532 Liverpool
43344 Sunderland
42126 Man City
41397 Chelsea
40345 Aston Villa
36955 Everton
35967 Spurs
34601 West Ham
32432 Derby
26708 M'boro
26181 Birmingham
23944 Fulham
23585 Reading
20746 Bolton
19914 Portsmouth
19046 Wigan
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Just noted that Sunderland did pretty well in attendance this season:
07-08 Premier League Attendances (avg)
75691 Man U
60070 Arsenal
50488 Newcastle
43532 Liverpool
43344 Sunderland
42126 Man City
41397 Chelsea
40345 Aston Villa
36955 Everton
35967 Spurs
34601 West Ham
32432 Derby
26708 M'boro
26181 Birmingham
23944 Fulham
23585 Reading
20746 Bolton
19914 Portsmouth
19046 Wigan
the big surprise is de team that goat name terry does play fuh. ;D
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Just noted that Sunderland did pretty well in attendance this season:
07-08 Premier League Attendances (avg)
75691 Man U
60070 Arsenal
50488 Newcastle
43532 Liverpool
43344 Sunderland
42126 Man City
41397 Chelsea
40345 Aston Villa
36955 Everton
35967 Spurs
34601 West Ham
32432 Derby
26708 M'boro
26181 Birmingham
23944 Fulham
23585 Reading
20746 Bolton
19914 Portsmouth
19046 Wigan
the big surprise is de team that goat name terry does play fuh. ;D
The Stadium of Light has the 4th biggest capacity Stadium after Old Trafford, the Emirates and St. James Park. Anfield beating them out in attendance (if only slightly) can be construed as a result of their unattractive football compared to a top feeder team like Liverpool.
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Kev, yuh sticking or what?
Manchester City hope to finance a £12m deal for Zenit St Petersburg's Andrei Arshavin by selling defender Richard Dunne and midfielder Stephen Ireland, with Roy Keane's Sunderland leading the chase. (Daily Mirror)[/b]
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omarldinho
Yeah sorry but there was any real news so I couldn't see the point of just putting up the same names again just for the sake of it as I am sure most people will be as sick as seeing the same lazy joournalism as I am.
Irish - Sunderland Target
Reading - Sunderland Target
Irish Sounding - Sunderland Target
Not really interested in Ireland to be frank, he disapears too often and too long during games and reporterly £8,000,000 just taking the piss. I really do hope Roy Keane has learned from last year.
I hope to see him at Euro 2008 trying to pick up a couple of players, but there are conflicting rumours about money, targets and nationalities at the minute. I must admit to feeling aprehensive as Roy Keane needs to improve a lot in the transfer market and I am not getting the right vibes just now.
Below is a copy of the Rumour Mill page from SAFC.COM lists all the players linked so far.
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=7218
Hidden away among the mass media coverage of last night's Champions League final, Sunderland are today linked with Reading full-back Nicky Shorey.
The Times reports that Reading have made Shorey available for transfer, with West Ham, Aston Villa, Newcastle and Sunderland all interested in the England left-back.
Shorey is the 17th name on our 2008 Rumour Mill list.
Visit safc.com's Rumour Mill page every day to read a summary of the day's SAFC transfer gossip - both ins and outs.
Here's the list so far:
Ins:
Jonny Evans (Manchester United)
Stephen Hunt (Reading)
Kevin Doyle (Reading)
Kevin Foley (Wolves)
Michael Kightly (Wolves)
Michael Tongue (Sheffield United)
Aidan McGeady (Celtic)
Richard Dunne (Manchester City)
Stephen Ireland (Manchester City)
James Beattie (Sheffield United)
Carlton Cole (West Ham)
Albert Adomah (Barnet)
Mauro Zarate (Al-Sadd)
Michael Bradley (Heerenveen)
Steve Sidwell (Chelsea)
Joe Ledley (Cardiff)
Nicky Shorey (Reading)
Outs:
Kieran Richardson (West Brom)
Paul McShane (West Brom)
Marton Fulop (Stoke)
Russell Anderson (Plymouth)
Graham Kavanagh (Sheffield Wednesday)
Michael Chopra (Cardiff)
Andy Cole (Burnley) Released
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Kev,
I actually think Ireland is a pretty decent punt. Young first and foremost, with alot more skill than your average British player and has shown the ability to play well when he's on his game. That is something you could work with.
I think keane and sunderland have to be realistic about their expectations and what they can get in the transfer market.
you're not going to get a promising young player that can instantly cut it at premiership level, because he'll either be too expensive or be courted by the more prominent teams.
i'm also skeptical about Sunderland getting the seasoned internationals like Dunne, McGeady and Shorey because they could easily go to a mid table team like Aston Villa or Spurs where they would be welcome. Whats the pull of Sunderland and what have they done to suggest that they can match a good player's ambitions?
Thats why its about the diamonds in the rough. The players who've been relegated with uncertain futures but good enough to cut it. The players out of contract looking for a good deal (even if it means giving an older player an extra year where you normally wouldnt), and the foreign players that a good scouting network could uncover.
Thats why i thought they wouldve made a play for Lee Carsley, cause you know what you're getting for at least this season. They really have to be astute in the transfer market.
Anyway, lets see what takes place.
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ireland is good..but overpriced for sure
jus like how darren bent, joey barton and michael johnson(man city) are all overpriced
english players are overpriced on a whole in the football market
owen's price to go to newcastle(cant remember now) was ridiculous. A player who is injury prone and never got back his form since leaving england
jus dont get it...study Michael Johnson was supposedly equated to Gareth Barry in terms of price coming to the end of the season.
I mean come on, Johnson start off hot and sweaty and then die down
Barry is a established player in the EPL...aint sayin he a world class player in the 1st tier of world players but still...damn...
down to flamini and all was too expensive...his wages at AC i mean.
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omarldinho, AZZURRI
The problem I have with Ireland is that he does disapear all too often and his attitude leaves a bit to be desired. He was the guy that told teh Irish National side that he had to go home because his granny had died, but his girlfriend had miscarried which was a good enough reason anyway. So when all this come to light he eventually apologised but didn't play the next few games because he didn't feel upto it. Something just doesn't sit right with me personally with him, especially not at that money, I would rather have the untried Castillo at that or a bit more from what I have seen of him.
McGready is well overpriced I have watched him a few times on the telly and can't see it personally for the money, he's OK but not that money, you also have to remember the standards in the SPL is generally way below the Prem except for the old firm
I am very realistic around who Sunderland can attract
1st Draft are really Top 4 in premiership
2nd Draft Top 6
3rd Draft rest
4th Draft Relegation candidates
We simply can't compete on the 1st draft, I would hope to get a decent shot at 2nd draft as a signatory signing and expect 3rd draft. I also expect players that are young from lower leagues with potential not for the first team but potential for the first team with the right coaching. Its important for the club to compete on wages but not to the point where it puts the club in jepoardy. We will have to over for players and the ones we really like have to overpay on wages to attract them, not a big problem if it is only a couple which are easily shifted if diasaster strikes.
Its the money really for British based players is crazy and better players can be had from abroad for the same money if not less, the worst aspect of the prem is how much mediorce players cost and are paid. The weakest part of Roy Keanes management so far has been transfers, the rest I expected a lot of mistakes given his time in the job, I still think we need to look at the coaching aswell.
I really hate this time of the year.
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Reading star Stephen Hunt's £5m move to Sunderland has hit a snag - after he refused to discuss his future before he gets married in his native Ireland on Friday... and then completes his honeymoon in mid-June. (Various)
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Kenwyne Jones has emerged as a top summer target for Liverpool Football Club.
Few eyebrows were raised when Roy Keane paid Southampton £6million to take the Trinidadian striker to Sunderland in August, yet he has been a key player for the Black Cats this season.
There is no question that the Stadium of Light club could let the 23-year-old leave during the January transfer window, with their Premier League status in huge danger.
However, Rafael Benitez is more than willing to wait for the end of the season, when he is likely to sell Peter Crouch and use this money to launch a £10million bid for Jones.
http://www.fansfc.com/liverpoolfootballclub/news.asp?newsid=179744
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i would be very happy for Jones if this pans out. i hear some men say that he football going to go downwards because of rafa'a rotation style of selecting, but to be honest, his football will improve because of the talent that will surround him. he dont have half of that talent pool at sunderland and sunderland, with that current squad, will never play in European competition. So hopefully Liverpool serious about the purchase and hopefully we will get to see another Trini fight for a Champions League medal again!! :beermug: :beermug:
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Just rumoured Maloney from Villa ( unhappy in Birmingham) decent player but I think he will end back in Scotland as he is homesick.
If KJ's injury is bad then it is bad news for the transfers as money will have to be diverted from other areas of the pitch such as midfield and defence to buy another forward.
fordy, liverpool have to sell to buy, no point in selling 1 sub to buy another and certainly not at £10 Million.
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Keane releases Sunderland octet
Sunderland boss Roy Keane has begun his summer cull by telling eight players he will not be renewing their deals.
Veteran striker Andy Cole, along with defenders Ian Harte, Stanislav Varga and Stephen Wright have all been released, as have four youngsters.
Keane vowed to shake up his squad after securing the club's Premier League future for next season.
He now reportedly wants the Sunderland board to give him another £50m to bring in new players for the next campaign.
Keane said: "I have sat down with Andy, Ian, Stephen and Stan and they won't be getting new contracts."
Cole and Varga had only just returned to training with Sunderland from their respective loan spells at Burnley.
Cole, 36, joined up with his former Manchester United team-mate Keane on a one-year deal last summer but only made five appearances for the Black Cats.
Former Leeds player Harte was also brought in by Keane, who he played alongside for the Republic of Ireland, in 2007.
Varga joined Sunderland from Celtic in 2006, while Wright joined from Liverpool in 2002 for £3m and recently had a spell on loan at Stoke.
Academy graduates Jack Pelter, Gavin Donoghue, Billy Dennehy and Jake Richardson have also been told they must find new clubs.
Veteran midfielder Dwight Yorke is still in negotiations over a new deal.
Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7389966.stm
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Dwight eh get cut but are we seein he in d EPL next season
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Dwight eh get cut but are we seein he in d EPL next season
Dwight isn't under a contract so doesn't appear on the list as he is not a Sunderland player at the minute.
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Kev yuh sticking:
Sunderland have joined Fulham in the race to sign Wigan midfielder Paul Scharner, who is mulling over his future at the JJB Stadium. (Clubcall 1138 BST)
Sunderland's attempts to sign Reading winger Stephen Hunt might have hit troubled waters as Everton are interested in the Republic of Ireland international. (The Guardian)
Scharner would be a great buy. Excellent defender, but can also play in midfield and even up front and can grab his share of goals. A little bit of a headcase though.
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omarldinho
I logged on to add him tonight, I do think he is a decent player too very steady and would help the centre of midfiled greatly where we are poor.
The rumours are getting stronger with Duff aswell, a lot of them are on holiday together at Hunts or Doyles wedding I think, somebodies wedding anyway. Murphy, Reid and a couple of others from Sunderland are all at it.
As said above don't really fancy Hunt at that price.
Duff was a great player before Jose got him and put him defending, never looked happy at Newcastle then got injured, if he is anything like his old self then would be a decent signing, but its a big if.
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omarldinho
I logged on to add him tonight, I do think he is a decent player too very steady and would help the centre of midfiled greatly where we are poor.
The rumours are getting stronger with Duff aswell, a lot of them are on holiday together at Hunts or Doyles wedding I think, somebodies wedding anyway. Murphy, Reid and a couple of others from Sunderland are all at it.
As said above don't really fancy Hunt at that price.
Duff was a great player before Jose got him and put him defending, never looked happy at Newcastle then got injured, if he is anything like his old self then would be a decent signing, but its a big if.
well if they do get duff, Carlos go have a battle on his hands for that right wing position? :-\
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Carlos is going to have competition next season either way if its not Duff it will be somebody as the club wont go into next season without right sided backup.
I expect the rumours to pick up a notch next week as Keane is back from New Zealand ( he's been working with the all blacks as part of his coaching badge this week) and Euro 08 starts next week so expect to see him at some of the matches watching players.
I really hope for 6/7 decent signings over the next 4/6 weeks.
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Sunderland Echo
Sunderland in for Brazilian?
Sunderland have been linked with a bid for Brazilian midfielder Paulo Assuncao.
The 28-year-old has bought out his contract at Porto, which would allow him to move on for less than £1million.
That's roughly the compensation fee that any club would have to pay the Portuguese side if they take him on.
The South American's agents are talking with clubs in Germany and Spain but the player is looking to maximise his earnings and the Premiership is the place which can offer him the highest wages.
Since taking over at Sunderland, Roy Keane has looked to hugely extend the club's scouting operation and chief scout Mick Brown has been in charge of developing the European network especially.
Keane said at the close of the season that the club had been looking further afield for talent and pointed out: "The players we are currently looking at would not have been interested in coming here if we'd been a Championship side."
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/safc/Sunderland-in-for-Brazilian.4164990.jp
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There's no sunderland 08/09 thread yet so I'll put this here.
away kit
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them men kit look like it well steam
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Not much over the past week but a new one today according to The Sun
Darren Bent at about £10 Million
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Nah doh say so. He doesn't possess the goods. . .mediocre
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The McGready rumours from Celtic seemed to have stepped up a gear over the weekend with Stokes going in the opposite direction as part of the deal.
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Been away for a while but nothing has really happened, the Hunt rumours are still persisting ( I hope not) only new ones are
Carlos Cuellar (Rangers)
Peter Luccin (Real Zaragoza)
James Beattie ( again £5 Million I think someone has been smoking too much dope with a price like that)
Niall Quinn has asked the supporters to be patient as the natives are getting restless as no one has been signed yet. As most of the clubs return for preseason next week I expect the transfer market to pick up pace quite a bit as things start to pan out.
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Been away for a while but nothing has really happened, the Hunt rumours are still persisting ( I hope not) only new ones are
Carlos Cuellar (Rangers)
Peter Luccin (Real Zaragoza)
James Beattie ( again £5 Million I think someone has been smoking too much dope with a price like that)
Niall Quinn has asked the supporters to be patient as the natives are getting restless as no one has been signed yet. As most of the clubs return for preseason next week I expect the transfer market to pick up pace quite a bit as things start to pan out.
Luccin would be a decent signing. He impressed at Marseille. If Keane can sign him from Zaragoza and get him back to something resembling his form for Marseille then it will be a good bit of business.
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Andy Johnson (Everton £10 Million)
Seems to be the rumour of the day.
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Andy Johnson (Everton £10 Million)
Seems to be the rumour of the day.
He would be an interesting addition to the Sunderland team........
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Andy Johnson (Everton £10 Million)
Seems to be the rumour of the day.
David Moyes answers back!!
www.skysports.com
Everton boss David Moyes has dismissed reports linking Andy Johnson with a move away from Goodison Park, insisting the striker is not for sale.
Johnson's future has been the subject of conjecture in recent weeks with reports suggesting Everton were reluctantly willing to cash-in on the England squad member in a bid to raise funds.
The likes of Sunderland, West Ham, Wigan and Manchester City have been linked with the former Crystal Palace hit-man, but Moyes claims the player is going nowhere.
"Andy Johnson is not for sale - it is that simple," Moyes told the club's official website.
"He is a highly-valued member of my senior squad and I look forward to seeing him when the players report back for pre-season training."
Johnson enjoyed a superb first season on Merseyside following his move from Crystal Palace two years ago and was an integral part of Everton's quest to reach the Uefa Cup.
The 27-year-old was still the subject of transfer speculation and that has only intensified this summer even though he has signed a five-year contract extension.
Johnson himself has rejected talk of a departure, insisting the speculation was "a load of rubbish".
Nevertheless, Moyes has felt it necessary to speak out to try to dampen the rumour mill around Johnson, who is expected back at Everton's Finch Farm training ground next week along with most of his team-mates.
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And todays rumour is
Daniel Guiza (Real Mallorca £10 - £12 Million)
Its in a few Sundays, reportly a target for Roma and a few others so doubt it really. I would ideally like to see a couple of players at least in the next 7 - 10 days as preseason training starts next week. Still no real news about KJ's injury from the club as yet.
Everton were very quick to come out and say AJ is not for sale, which is unusual so perhaps someone has bid for him ( not necassily us).
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Today the Daily mirror are caliming an exclusive that Darren Bent has held talks with the club about moving rather than just linking him with a move. Rumoured to be around the £10 Million mark. No doubt it will all come out in the wash in the next couple of days, interesting so we will just have to wait and see. Decent player, I thought he was well overpriced when he moved for £16 Million last season, still think he is overpriced at £10 Million. But that seems the rate at the minute for British based players, crazy absolutely crazy.
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Outs for a change
Halford has been given a season long loan at Sheffield United;
We have apparently turned down £1.5 Million ish for keeper Martin Fulop from Stoke, expecting him to go for about £2 Million, well tahts the rumour anyway.
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Today the Daily mirror are caliming an exclusive that Darren Bent has held talks with the club about moving rather than just linking him with a move. Rumoured to be around the £10 Million mark. No doubt it will all come out in the wash in the next couple of days, interesting so we will just have to wait and see. Decent player, I thought he was well overpriced when he moved for £16 Million last season, still think he is overpriced at £10 Million. But that seems the rate at the minute for British based players, crazy absolutely crazy.
Darren Bent is three times as skillfull as any sunderland striker at present. well worth the money ! you'll see.
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Today the Daily mirror are caliming an exclusive that Darren Bent has held talks with the club about moving rather than just linking him with a move. Rumoured to be around the £10 Million mark. No doubt it will all come out in the wash in the next couple of days, interesting so we will just have to wait and see. Decent player, I thought he was well overpriced when he moved for £16 Million last season, still think he is overpriced at £10 Million. But that seems the rate at the minute for British based players, crazy absolutely crazy.
Darren Bent is three times as skillfull as any sunderland striker at present. well worth the money ! you'll see.
I have no doubt he is better than what we have and as I said above he's a decent player, I quite like him, works hard, good pace and runs into space, but its just the prices for all players, I have been around a while and just can't get my head around it, especially the mediorce ones. He's a London lad so I wil be surprised if he comes north, but money as always talks.
Nothing today so far.
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7/3/2008 2:47 PM
Yorke Extends Deal, Hopes For Playing TimeDwight Yorke has pledged his immediate future to the Black Cats by signing a one-year extension to continue working for boss Roy Keane in the Premiership. His off-field role will be just as important as the part he plays on field.
Yorke, nicknamed the ‘Silent Assassin’, told the Sunderland Echo: “Now that I have signed I have just got to see what this year brings, see what I contribute to the team, and weigh it up at the end. It’s a challenge to get into the team because there will be more competition for places… Hopefully that will bring the best out of me.”
The twice-retired Trinidad and Tobago international is a popular figure at the northeast club, and Keane is pleased to have nullified any return to Sydney FC.
“Yorkie’s experience, on and off the pitch, has been invaluable to us,” the Irishman told their official website. “He is a great character in the dressing room, around the training ground, and he’ll have a part to play next season.”
Despite admitting his 20th pre-season will be his hardest, he informed SAFC TV: “It was a straightforward decision. Once the manager gave me the thumbs up, it was easy to sign.”
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Todays rumour Hunt and Doyle from Reading £10 Million the pair, seems a very popular price with the press as a made up figure. Can't see the point really personally but they're Irish.
Outs
Wallace has turned down a £1 Million move to Preston, to stay and fight for his place, he has as much chance as I have.
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Nothing really new Bent rumours have died down, Jonhson rumours have started again. Interesting he was linked with a £5 Million move to Fulham last week, its back to £10 Million when linked to us.
Still no news on KJ which is worrying, I am starting to wonder with all these striker rumours whether it is a lengthy layoff and nothing has been announced in an attempt to keep the price of a replacement lower than would be the case if everybody knows he is out for most of the season.
2 weeks to our 1st preseason match and no real signs of a signing yet, getting twitchy.
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Sunderland are hoping to hijack Hull City's £2m bid for Middlesbrough midfielder George Boateng. (The Sun)
Now Boateng for 2 million pounds would be a great buy!!
Sunderland, Celtic and Rangers are all in the race to sign Watford centre-back Danny Shittu. (Daily Star)
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omarldinho
I think he is a bit pricey at that given his age but it depends on what you believe, the prices always seem inflated when Sunderland are involved, but would of added some much needed stell in the middle of the park even if only for a season or so.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/7494673.stm
Sunderland are hoping to hijack Hull City's £2m bid for Middlesbrough midfielder George Boateng. (The Sun)
Hull have agreed a £1m fee for Boateng but face competition from Celtic and Fulham. (Daily Mirror)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/middlesbrough/7492122.stm
Boateng set to move to Hull City
Middlesbrough midfielder George Boateng
Boateng is on the verge of signing for the Tigers
Middlesbrough have agreed a deal to sell midfielder George Boateng to Premier League new boys Hull City.
Hull boss Phil Brown told BBC Radio Humberside: "The deal between ourselves and Middlesbrough has been agreed.
"It's now just a matter of fine-tuning the deal between us and George and that's a process that does take time," he added.
Boateng said in March that he would remain at Middlesbrough as long as he remained a first-team regular.
His agent Barry Silkman told BBC Sport: "He has a year left on his contract, but he's been there for five or six years and given them good service.
"He played about 80% of the season, but he just thinks that maybe it is the right time to move on.
I would have thought that given his good service, we'd let him go for just over a mill
Boateng joined Boro from Aston Villa for £5m in 2002.
Boro boss Gareth Southgate confirmed on Monday: "George has expressed a desire to move on.
"He's having talks with a couple of other clubs and that is the decision he has got to make now."
Another rumoured target Dani Guiza has moved to Fenerbahce for a reported £13.7 Million to join his ex international manager
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omarldinho
I think he is a bit pricey at that given his age but it depends on what you believe, the prices always seem inflated when Sunderland are involved, but would of added some much needed stell in the middle of the park even if only for a season or so.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/7494673.stm
Sunderland are hoping to hijack Hull City's £2m bid for Middlesbrough midfielder George Boateng. (The Sun)
Hull have agreed a £1m fee for Boateng but face competition from Celtic and Fulham. (Daily Mirror)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/middlesbrough/7492122.stm
Boateng set to move to Hull City
Middlesbrough midfielder George Boateng
Boateng is on the verge of signing for the Tigers
Middlesbrough have agreed a deal to sell midfielder George Boateng to Premier League new boys Hull City.
Hull boss Phil Brown told BBC Radio Humberside: "The deal between ourselves and Middlesbrough has been agreed.
"It's now just a matter of fine-tuning the deal between us and George and that's a process that does take time," he added.
Boateng said in March that he would remain at Middlesbrough as long as he remained a first-team regular.
His agent Barry Silkman told BBC Sport: "He has a year left on his contract, but he's been there for five or six years and given them good service.
"He played about 80% of the season, but he just thinks that maybe it is the right time to move on.
I would have thought that given his good service, we'd let him go for just over a mill
Boateng joined Boro from Aston Villa for £5m in 2002.
Boro boss Gareth Southgate confirmed on Monday: "George has expressed a desire to move on.
"He's having talks with a couple of other clubs and that is the decision he has got to make now."
Another rumoured target Dani Guiza has moved to Fenerbahce for a reported £13.7 Million to join his ex international manager
the man is premiership pedigree, was on the dutch national team until not too recently, led middlesborough to the uefa cup latter stages not too long ago and is his club captain..
if anything i would say he dip a little bit not because of age but because of lack of motivation. he's been wanting to leave for some time now.
he good for ah next 3 years. 2 million pounds is a bargain imo.
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Todays are
Andy Johnson is likely to go to Wigan as his wife doesn't want to uproot a young family (which to me is fair enough) for between £10-£11 Million.
Rumours abound about Danny Shittu Watford sightings at hotels usual rumours. Was rumoured to be off to Rangers, don't really have a view as I can't really say I have seen / taken much notice of him. The other is Jerome of Birmingham totally underwhelmed.
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just to put the transfers into perspective this is what the club are after this season
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/safc/Quinn-cool-on-Keane39s-future.4269584.jp
Quinn cool on Keane's future
Niall Quinn remains relaxed about Roy Keane's contract situation as the Sunderland manager prepares to return for the final year of his existing deal.
The Black Cats' chairman says the trust that unites the two Irishmen is key to how matters progress over Keane's long-term future.
There were reports more than a month ago that the former Manchester United midfielder was on the verge of signing a new four-year contract.
No agreement has been penned, but that does not suggest any problems between the parties.
Keane gathers his squad together again on Friday to begin preparing for the 2008-09 season and Quinn is sure there will be firm discussions sooner rather than later.
He told the Echo: "It's actually something that Roy and I don't talk about as much as perhaps the media or other people.
"Roy has been away a lot with his coaching course, but the players are back soon and as the whole thing gets going again, I'm sure we will sort that out.
"It is not an issue that has faltered – it has not even got going!
"But the great thing about Roy Keane and this situation is that there is trust in the air between us.
"There's a year left on his deal and we actually respect contracts at our level."
Keane was confirmed as Sunderland boss on August 28, 2006, and steered the club to promotion from the Championship – as champions – in his first season in management.
Last season he helped ensure the Black Cats remained in the top flight.
The sights will be higher next season as the club aims to continue its progress since Quinn led a takeover two years ago.
The former Black Cats' striker has often referred to his plans for the club as a journey but he remains coy about the final destination.
Quinn said: "We realised that this journey had five steps.
"As I've said before, step one was to get back into the Premier League. We were allowing Roy plenty of time to do it – we had a three-year plan – but, Roy being Roy, did it in one year.
"Step two was to consolidate our place in the Premier League, to take a deep breath and to build. We've done that.
"Step three, now, is to give our fans a year free of relegation worry – not in the bottom five all year. It would be another form of consolidation.
"After that, breaking into the top half of the league is the aim. I don't like talking too much about steps four and five, but it's competing with the big boys.
"We don't dream here, we aim, and there's no point in aiming too high, too early. We've got to build more solidly."
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You could read into that, that there is not as much money available as the fans believe I suppose the next 6 weeks will tell us.
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george mccartney? :thinking:
West Ham reject McCartney offer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/7498308.stm
George McCartney could be returning to the Stadium of Light
West Ham have turned down an improved £4.5m offer from Sunderland for Northern Ireland defender George McCartney, BBC Sport understands.
The 27-year-old full-back joined the Upton Park club from Sunderland in 2006 in a four-year deal worth £1m.
The Hammers paid £600,000 for McCartney in a swap deal which saw Clive Clarke moving in the opposite direction.
McCartney is a former Black Cats captain and played 157 times for the team in an eight-year spell.
The Belfast-born player scored on his Northern Ireland debut against Iceland in September 2001.
McCartney spent two years in international exile after refusing to play under manager Lawrie Sanchez.
He was angered after Sanchez hinted that he 'picked' his games.
McCartney returned for his country in 2007 after Nigel Worthington took charge.
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omarldinho
I quite liked him as a player to be fair, I thought he got a lot of unjustified stick as he was threw in at the deep end in a poor team and played out of position, not a good combination for a young lad. But a step backwards for me and certainly think there is much better available for £5 Million or so.
Not a great defender decent going forward can play left side or central, but I would dearly love to know what the scouts are doing because from the outside is looks like sweet fa. I am becoming more bemused on a daily basis.
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The only rumour today is Dorin Goian Romanian CH Steaua Bucharest £4 Million ish
never really seen / noticed the lad so can't make any comment on him.
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The above mentioned player is in all the papers, something to do with the fee and VAT for the Romanian government is busy being discussed according to the papers, if you care to believe them it looks very likely it will happen over the weekend / Monday.
A couple mention the Bent deal dragging on and RK has put a bid in for Johnson of Everton, as Spurs forwards are being linked with a move away making Bents departure uncertain.
Outs
Ethutu to Wigan for £2 Million
Not worth losing him at the minute for that money as he is the only midfielder at the club that can tackle, he can't pass mind but thats a different story.
Youngsters
I am really surprised I have not seen or heard anything about the kids that came across and trained I thought something would of been said by now, but seems to have completely gone cold. Its strange because looking from the outside the club seems to be trying to buy potential in at the minute.
Just taken an Australian youngster 16, not yet confirmed by the club
http://www.manlydaily.com.au/article/2008/07/12/11058_sports.html
and are chasing a 19 yo League of ireland central midfielder according to the papers.
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Usual Sunday rubbish, however Malbranque's (spurs) Agent is quoted as saying Sunderland have made an enquiry about him a price of £4 Million being bandied about. Interesting both Spuds and Chelski are trimming their squads so in the terms of players for us there maybe a couple of decent players available we will just have to wait and see as usual.
Johnson has been reported as saying if he does move he will only move to London, which makes Fulham favourites but will have to increase their £5 Million bid, a couple of papers are reporting West Ham are considering bidding.
I really do hate this time of year.
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Todays rumours according to the papers
Saha - on loan - pay as you play from Manu - due to him being crocked and Manu want rid
Lee Naylor - Celtic £2 Million - eh hope not
Today might see the first transfer if the VAT is sorted - hope so - might ease the twitch abit.
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Keane eyes United's Saha
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8346642/Keane-eyes-United's-Saha
Sunderland manager Roy Keane is reportedly planning an approach for Manchester United forward Louis Saha.
Saha is eager to fight for his place at Old Trafford but the Black Cats boss is keen to snatch the French attacker from his former club.
However, with Sir Alex Ferguson attempting to bring Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham Hotspur, Saha would most likely be surplus to the Red Devils' requirements.
The 29-year-old was also linked with a return to his former club Fulham, as well as receiving interest from Bolton and Roma.
But reports are strongly suggesting that Keane, who was part of the United squad during their glory years in the 1990s, is aiming to bring Saha in as a replacement for the injured Kenwyne Jones.
Saha would also bring in some much-needed experience to the Black Cats' attack, which consists of youngsters the likes of Anthony Stokes (19), Roy O'Donovan (22) and Michael Chopra (24).
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This would be a very interesting transfer if it comes off. However, i dont see it hapening!!
ah love it!!
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Nothing really new today.
Various papers reporting we have pulled out of the deal for the Romanian over the "VAT" ( I think there is more to it than that) and refusing to pay Reading's valuation of Hunt (Thank God if true)
Its fun because the smb is about to explode and war is nigh, usual stuff for a sunderland supporter, here we go again.
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Interesting report on Sky SSN
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_3831820,00.html
Sunderland have approached Tottenham with offers for four of their players, Sky Sports News understands.
Steed Malbranque, Pascal Chimbonda, Younes Kaboul and Teemu Tainio are the men reportedly wanted by Black Cats boss Roy Keane.
All four of the players figured under Juande Ramos at White Hart Lane, with Malbranque and Chimbonda particularly prominent figures.
However, Ramos has been busy rebuilding his squad since the end of last season and could be ready to let the quartet leave.
The Black Cats, who have been much quieter in the transfer window, have yet to comment on the reports.
However, Keane did reveal earlier on Thursday that he felt this time next week there would be 'plenty of new faces' at the Stadium of Light.
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Like that news. Is only Kaboul I don't really know about. But I think the others would be definite upgrades.
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Kaboul hasn't exactly set the prem alight but he is only young? for a centre half.
Chimbonda I don't think is a good defender and his attitude is debatable
Malbranque I would be very happy with
Tainio don't really know can't seem to remember much about him haven't seen him play that much
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Kaboul doesn't need to set the premiership alight. Just be a steadying influence in the middle of the defence. Or at least a solid defender. I agree with you on Chimbonda's attitude but I think as a player he would be an upgrade over what Sunderland currently has and he can give Carlos some competition/support on the right wing. Tainio I've seen play well a couple of times for Spurs and I think he would be a good attacking option in the midfield.
I was beginning to get worried given the lack of action by Sunderland in the transfer market, but I like these options. Now to see how it plays out. Here's hoping for the best.
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Mose sorry me being diplomatic Kaboul hasn't played well in the prem at all and is prone to errors, whether that down to him adjusting or young don't know but I think he is better than he has shown so far.
Chimbonda is not as solid a defender as Bardsley is a simple no nonesense defender who has done well since he arrived. Chimbonda is definately better going forward but to be frank I would still prefer Bardsley over him, for his work rate, attitude, aggression and defensive qualities.
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Mose sorry me being diplomatic Kaboul hasn't played well in the prem at all and is prone to errors, whether that down to him adjusting or young don't know but I think he is better than he has shown so far.
Chimbonda is not as solid a defender as Bardsley is a simple no nonesense defender who has done well since he arrived. Chimbonda is definately better going forward but to be frank I would still prefer Bardsley over him, for his work rate, attitude, aggression and defensive qualities.
Cool. I hear yuh. :beermug:
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Some confirmation:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080718/sports/fbl_eng_pr_sunderland_tottenham
Keane's Tottenham raid suffers a setback
SUNDERLAND, England (AFP) - Sunderland manager Roy Keane suffered a setback in his bid to make a 23 million pounds (28 million euros) swoop for four Tottenham players when Younes Kaboul's agent insisted his player wouldn't move to the Stadium of Light.
Keane admitted he was close to making his first pre-season signing after reports claimed he had made a massive joint bid for Kaboul, Steed Malbranque, Teemu Tainio and Pascal Chimbonda.
But Kaboul's agent Rudy Raba delivered an embarrassing snub to Keane as he insisted the French defender wasn't interested in the switch because it would harm his international prospects.
"Younes wouldn't join Sunderland even if there was an earthquake," Raba said. "We have more interesting options than Sunderland. Don't even think about it.
"I can tell you for sure that he's going to stay in England next season. Of course he would prefer to have his chance at Tottenham rather than moving to Sunderland.
"No disrespect to them, but playing there wouldn't help his international career."
Despite that blow, Keane, who has been criticised by some Sunderland supporters for his lack of transfer activity, is still hopeful of landing French winger Malbranque, Finland midfielder Tainio and French right-back Chimbonda.
"I'm hoping that we will have five or six players in by this time next week," he said. "We are close on a few things and I would hope things will start to happen over the next 48 hours.
"We fly out to Portugal (for pre-season) on Friday but I am not worried about tying up deals that quickly and in time for them to play in our first game on Sunday.
"We are there for a week and if players have to fly and join us on Sunday or Monday, that's fine."
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Like that news. Is only Kaboul I don't really know about. But I think the others would be definite upgrades.
I kinda disagree with that...other than Malbranque I don't view any of the others as a definite upgrade. Buying fringe players from a mid level club can't be really any type of massive upgrade, I think Keane is ah good upcoming manager but he have a good bit to learn from Fergie and other ex Man Utd coach like Hughes when it come to transfer market.
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Kaboul came to England with a very good reputation as a great centre back in the making but never really took off at Spurs. Imo, alot of that had to do with the shambolic mess that was Spurs defensive system under Martin Jol that contributed to a rough first season.
He's most likely going to Portsmouth, and watch and see Redknapp will get the best out of him there.
As for the other targets, I would say Malbranque would be the only one I'd go for.
As good as the player is, it don't make sense buying a player from a club if he doesn't have the motivation or attitude to come to Sunderland and do well.
Look at Kaboul's comments.. Also look at Kieran Richardon's attitude last season... And they want to buy Chimbonda??
Sunderland is no coveted destination, so they need to be shrewd with their buys.. I don't know why they not looking outside of England for great budding players who will jump at any chance to make their name in the EPL, instead of looking only for established prem players who might be unwanted by their clubs and would view Sunderland as a demotion.
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Kabouls agent isn't very diplomatic.
Its been reported RK got to the airport for the POrtugal trip but turned back, probably to talk to players.
I too think much better value in Europe, but I am starting to sound like a parrot.
The twitch is getting worse daily. ;D
Sunderland is not a possible destination for Younes Kaboul according to the Tottenham defender’s agent, who spoke exclusively to setantasports.com.
The athletic centre back experienced his Premier League debut under Martin Jol last term, but the manager’s departure and replacement by Juande Ramos ruined Kaboul’s chances of proving his worth.
France-Under 21’s captain has been linked to Portsmouth and offered the chance to bounce back with Sunderland.
But his representative Rudy Raba has told us that playing at The Stadium of Light would slow down his international career, and that other clubs have made more interesting offers to the Frenchman.
“Younes wouldn’t join Sunderland even if there was an earthquake,” Raba told setantasports.com.
“We have more interesting options than Sunderland. Don’t even think about it.
“I can tell you for sure that he’s going to stay in England next season.
“At Portsmouth you are more watched and for example you have France international Lassana Diarra playing there.
“Of course he would prefer to have his chance at Tottenham rather than moving to Sunderland.
“No disrespect to them, but playing there wouldn’t help his international career.
“[Martin] Jol made him come over but then [Juande] Ramos replaced him and axed Younes. That kind of situation always happens at big clubs.”
As for Pompey
Top of Arry's list is SWP from Chelsea - but-
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_3834562,00.html
Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp has admitted he will have to sell before making further summer signings.
Redknapp has so far secured Glen Little on a free transfer, Ben Sahar on a six-month loan and Peter Crouch for a fee believed to be in the region of £11million.
The capture of England international Crouch from Liverpool has left Redknapp with little money remaining to spend in the rest of the transfer window.
The Pompey chief is keen to bring in the likes of Chelsea winger Shaun Wright-Phillips, but concedes he will look to part company with a number of his fringe players, with Sean Davis and Djimi Traore expected to leave, in a bid to raise funds.
"We really need to shift one or two if we are going to raise some money to bring anyone else in now," he told The News.
"Crouchie's in but now we need to find the money if we are going to try to finance another deal. Business is business. If you want to get a couple more in now we have got to generate a bit of money.
Money is tight
"If we sold somebody, a couple of players we can afford to let go, then there's one or two players I would love to bring in. But unless we move one or two out it's not possible.
"When you start talking about the type of players we are trying to bring in, no disrespect to Djimi, but his money doesn't buy you Wright-Phillips.
"You would like to have him for sure, but he's good money and at the moment we haven't got the money.
'It's not easy to shift people out, it's hard. Someone has got to want them and unless you get good offers for people then they stay. We've spent some money already this summer so money's tight now, so it's not easy."
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Like that news. Is only Kaboul I don't really know about. But I think the others would be definite upgrades.
I kinda disagree with that...other than Malbranque I don't view any of the others as a definite upgrade. Buying fringe players from a mid level club can't be really any type of massive upgrade, I think Keane is ah good upcoming manager but he have a good bit to learn from Fergie and other ex Man Utd coach like Hughes when it come to transfer market.
Big leap from a definite upgrade to a massive upgrade, and I'm definitely not claiming that these players are a massive upgrade. I think the players he's looking to get can improve the side, however. They won't be able to put them in the top 5 or probably not even the top 10 but the plan for this year is simply to stay out of the bottom 5 according to Quinn. Baby steps.
I think Keane's problem is
1) he's managing Sunderland, the image of futility before he got there, so not too many people want to go there. Hell, just last year when it came out they were interested in Carlos plenty people on here was saying the club was shyte and he shouldn't go.
2) they lack in the scouting dept. I understand he had to try to build a scouting network when he came on board. So it's probably difficult for him to find those unknown or little known gems elsewhere in Europe that can come in and make a big difference right away.
Time and some success should take care of both issues.
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Todays rumour
Mladen Petric - Borussia Dortmund - haven't a scooby
The club have signed the Irish kid for £180,000, its not for the 1st team just buying "potential" but if the signings don't come, I don't even want to think about it.
The papers are divided on the Spurs lot, some say 0, 1 or 2.
As I said above not really interested in Chimbonda.
Malbranque would be a good signing, but suspect he may end up at Villa, or thats where his agent was hinting he wanted to go last week when links first started to appear.
Tainio I know nothing, apparently he is a defensive midfielder an area we are very lacking in, so if he can tackle and pass I would be happy to add him. It will all come out in the wash.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7515429.stm
Sunderland close in on Chimbonda
Tottenham defender Pascal Chimbonda has confirmed he is keen to leave White Hart Lane and join Sunderland after meeting Black Cats boss Roy Keane.
The 29-year-old arrived at Spurs from Wigan in August 2006.
"I travelled to meet Keane on Saturday at Sunderland's training ground. I was extremely impressed with what he had to say," said Chimbonda.
French international full-back Chimbonda joined Wigan for £500,000 in 2005 from French club Bastia.
Chimbonda added: "Keane's honesty and openness really were fantastic and I particularly like the plans he has for Sunderland. The opportunity excites me and I hope he was impressed with what I had to say."
Three other Spurs players are also being targeted by the Black Cats.
It is understood that Steed Malbranque, Younes Kaboul and Teemu Tainio are due in the north-east for talks.
Sunderland reached agreement with Tottenham on Thursday to give them permission to speak to the quartet.
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Todays rumours
Darren Fletcher
Out - Fulop to Stoke
Comments on the talks with the Spurs 4, as usual its just a story
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/Keane-hopes-for-Spurs-boost.4307619.jp
Keane hopes for Spurs boost
Keane was late arriving at the Black Cats' training camp here in Portugal because he was busy trying to persuade Tottenham Hotspur quartet Steed Malbranque, Pascal Chimbonda, Younes Kaboul and Teemu Tainio to sign.
But the extra time on Wearside seems to have been well spent with the Sunderland manager sounding positive following last night's 3-1 win over Sporting Lisbon.
Keane said: "I was impressed with the four players when I met them before coming out here and hopefully I made a positive impression on them.
"I enjoyed having the opportunity to speak to them and I think we have made some very good offers.
"If anything is going to hold things up now it is a few loose ends between the players and Tottenham."
Whether that amounts to a commitment from the four to head to the Stadium of Light remains to be seen.
Keane will not be 100 per cent happy until he has signatures on contracts and it seems unlikely the deals will be thrashed out in time for the White Hart Lane exodus to come in time for Sunderland's second pre-season contest in Portugal, against Vitoria de Setubal on Wednesday.
"You never know what can happen in any deal," he said.
"But it's that bit more difficult when you are trying to get four from one club," Keane admitted.
"The players impressed me greatly and we will see what happens. There are other irons in the fire, too, so it's a busy time."
Keane is still waiting to make his first summer signing but there has been quick progress since deals were agreed with Spurs on Thursday and the process of discussing personal terms with the players got under way.
The negative comments from Frenchman Kaboul's agent seemed to offer no hope of him joining the Black Cats.
But Keane's comments seem to suggest he has allayed any doubts and if all four transfers go through it will mean he has bought five players from Tottenham since taking the Stadium of Light hotseat.
Goalkeeper Marton Fulop arrived during the 2006-07 Championship season in a deal which saw Ben Alnwick go the other way.
And the question still occupying many fans' thoughts today is whether a sixth Spur – striker Darren Bent – might also be added to Keane's arsenal.
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Nothing new today, latest quotes from the Spuds 4
http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/07/22/Prem-Tainio-on-Sunderland/
Tainio interested in Sunderland move
by Adam Marshall, 22 July 2008
Teemu Tainio is interested in joining Sunderland after discussing the move with Roy Keane on Saturday.
The Tottenham midfielder is one of four Spurs players targeted by Keane and expects a decision on the transfer by the end of the week.
Some feel the Finland international is the likeliest of the quartet to arrive at the Stadium of Light, although Pascal Chimbonda has admitted he is strongly considering the switch.
Younes Kaboul's agent told setantasports.com the defender would not join Sunderland on Friday and, although the centre back was impressed by Keane, Aston Villa have joined Portsmouth in the race for his signature. Steed Malbranque has yet to comment.
Tainio is tempted by the promise of his favoured central midfield role on Wearside and is clearly pleased that former Manchester United star Keane wants to buy him.
"Of course it's flattering that such a legend would like me to play in his team," Tainio told Ilta Sanomat.
"Sunderland and Tottenham agreed to the transfer for the common interest and Sunderland would be an interesting option.
"The first impression was good but the transfer still has a course to run. My negotiations are still taking place.
"Sunderland have a great stadium as well as tremendous fans.
"I understand they are interested in playing me in the centre of midfield."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_3852294,00.html
Harry fears Kaboul hijack
Redknapp claims Villa want Spurs defender
Last updated: 22nd July 2008
Kaboul: Set to decide future
Portsmouth boss Harry Redknapp fears Aston Villa could beat him to the signing of Tottenham defender Younes Kaboul.
Kaboul looks set to leave Tottenham this summer after dropping down the pecking order since the arrival of Juande Ramos.
Redknapp has confirmed his interest in Kaboul with the Frenchman expressing a desire to move Portsmouth.
Sunderland joined the chase for Kaboul after having a bid for the player and White Hart team-mates Pascal Chimbonda, Steed Malbranque and Teemu Tainio accepted by Spurs.
Kaboul's agent initially played down the prospect of the central defender moving to the Stadium of Light, but now says the player was impressed by Roy Keane.
"Younes was very impressed with Roy Keane when he met him, especially
with his vision for Sunderland Football Club," said Raba.
"He was also very impressed with the city, stadium and facilities which, to be
fair, are second to none.
"Younes also appreciated the fact that Roy and Sunderland have given him a
couple of days to make a decision. I now expect him to make up his mind in the next 24 hours."
However, Villa are reported to have enterted the race for the former Auxerre youngster.
Redknapp claims Villa are leading the hunt for Kaboul and he is not optimistic over his chances of signing the France Under 21 international if Martin O'Neill's side are after him.
Offer
"Kaboul wants to come here but I heard he is going to Villa. I don't think there is anything he (chief executive Peter Storrie) can do about it," Redknapp told The News.
"If Villa are in for him he may have to go there.
"We made an offer with what we thought was a fair valuation."
Trialist
Meanwhile, Redknapp has confirmed he is interested in signing Gambia striker Omar OJ Krumah after he impressed on trial.
Krumah has featured in some of Pompey's pre-season friendlies and he has caught the eye of Redknapp, but the wily boss believes the youngster is one for the future.
"I like OJ. He could be one for the future. He isn't ready for the Premier League, though," added Redknapp.
Redknapp has been trying to tie Spuds hands on Kaboul the last few days, needs to sell players to raise money, suprised no club has complained yet about him tbh. ala Manu / Liverpool.
Chimbonda has gone quiet - no comments from him or his agent the last couple of days.
Melbranque's agent has yet to make a comment other than that posted a couple of days ago when he was trying to get Villa to bid as he hinted taht would be his preferred destination.
Villa must be busy as it seems Kaboul, Melbranque and Bentley are ones reported to have bid for if you believe good old Arry, the papers or the players agents, having said that they are usually quick to deny any rumoured bids are that true.
No doubt it will all be done and dusted one way or teh other by the end of the week, lets hope so anyway.
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Tainio was a decent player two seasons ago.
I had him on my FF bench and I had him as my first sub because he was usually good for some points.
He's an energetic midfielder and he scored a couple goals that season.
He can't be worse than what Sunderland have at the moment :)
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was there an earthquake in Sunderland?
how Kaboul change he tune so?
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was there an earthquake in Sunderland?
how Kaboul change he tune so?
Doh confuse de man with he agent. Agents are known to talk plenty sh*t!!
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was there an earthquake in Sunderland?
how Kaboul change he tune so?
he get ah keane-quake!!
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Put this in because of the quotes, looks like the palyers might have until the end of teh week to decide one way or the other.
I personally wouldn't read too much into the comments from Kaboul's agent yesterday, he probably realised he had been out of order last week and is just trying to even things up a bit.
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/safc/Keane-Signings-are-coming-soon.4314915.jp
Keane: Signings are coming soon
Roy Keane says he is as impatient as any Sunderland fan for a transfer breakthrough.
Keane says the Black Cats have agreed personal terms with three of the four Tottenham players he is trying to sign – Steed Malbranque, Younes Kaboul, Pascal Chimbonda and Teemu Tainio.
The Sunderland boss expects a conclusion to his pursuit of the Spurs quartet by the weekend, but that does not mean everything is signed, sealed and delivered yet.
Despite Kaboul's agent saying the French under-21 captain was extremely impressed with Sunderland, their manager and facilities, Portsmouth boss Harry Redknapp claimed yesterday the centre-back wants to join Aston Villa.
Keane is trying to steer clear of such rumours – putting his faith in the work being done by chairman Niall Quinn and chief executive Peter Walker – but acknowledges his hunger to introduce new recruits.
He said: "I wouldn't get bogged down with deals being done by today or tomorrow, but I certainly hope they will be by the weekend.
"There is progress being made, but you know the score. You are dealing with clubs and sometimes the players have disagreements with the clubs they're leaving.
"One or two of the issues we're facing are basically out of our hands. It's between the players and Tottenham.
"On personal terms, we're virtually there with three of them, if not four, but there are one or two loose ends to be tied up.
"I have been in the game long enough to know that things can drag on a little bit but in defence of Peter and Niall I'm not disappointed at all (with the work going on behind the scenes) because we really are going full steam ahead.
"Agreeing the price with a club is just the start of it.
"Trust me, I know everyone's impatient for news, particularly the Sunderland fans, but if you want to meet an impatient person then I'm one.
"But I've also got to understand that hopefully it will be worthwhile because they're quality players."
Keane would not reveal that names of other players he is interested in, but was asked in Portugal if he is in for another Spur, Darren Bent.
He said: "I don't think it's fair to talk about other clubs' players when fees haven't been agreed. We got permission to talk to the four Tottenham lads and the talks went as well as I hoped.
"It was nice to meet the players. We had one or two examples last year when we never even got that opportunity. Having agreed fees with clubs, players refused to even travel up, which I thought was unbelievably disrespectful to the football club.
"The four Tottenham lads were very keen to come up and listen to what I had to say.
"It would be nice to get a few medicals done in the next few days – we're certainly on standby to do that.
"There are one or two other things going on – shall we say discussion over fees – and that will probably go on for another two or three days.
"In terms of the four Tottenham lads, we should know one way or the other by the weekend, but in terms of the two or three other deals we're looking at, we might have to be patient and wait for the next week."
The injury difficulties of last season, when Keane was without the likes of Carlos Edwards, Kieran Richardson, Dean Whitehead, Ross Wallace and Danny Higginbotham for length periods, have reinforced the need to bring in more players.
Keane added: "If you look at the problems we had last year, losing Carlos, Deano and Kieran, we were up against it right from the start. We don't want to be in that situation again - we need a bigger stronger squad."
Kaboul's agent Rudy Raba says he will decide over his situation soon.
Raba had previously insisted the defender would not sign for the Black Cats.
But he backtracked yesterday, saying: "Younes was very impressed with Roy Keane when he met him, especially with his vision for Sunderland Football Club.
"He was also very impressed with the city, stadium and facilities which, to be fair, are second to none.
"Younes also appreciated the fact that Roy and Sunderland have given him a couple of days to make a decision. I now expect him to make up his mind in the next 24 hours."
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http://www.setantasports.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/07/23/Prem-Chimbonda-agent-exclusive-on-Sunderland/?facets/great-britain-locale/sport-space/football/
Pascal Chimbonda’s agent has revealed to setantasports.com that the Tottenham defender will undergo a medical at Sunderland on Wednesday.
Sunderland tabled a bid for Chimbonda and three of his Tottenham team-mates and the full back came away impressed following his meeting with Black Cats chief Roy Keane.
The Frenchman has little chance of forcing his way into Juande Ramos’ plans at Tottenham and it would appear as if he is leaning towards linking up with Sunderland.
“I can confirm he’s having a medical there,” Chimbonda’s agent Willie McKay told setantasports.com.
Keane is also in the hunt for Chimbonda’s team-mates Younes Kaboul, Steed Malbranque and Teemu Tainio.
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Tainio... Good buy. That fellah could play centre mid and also cover Carlos on the right wing.
Chimbonda.. Questionable buy. Excellent if his attitude is good but not sure why he's a priority when they already have Bardsley.
Kaboul.. Good buy. Has something to prove and could be a revelation given a steady run at CB. Also will get his share of goals.
Malbranque.. Good buy for the left wing. Gives the option to move Richardson infield for some creativity or provide competition, and we know Richardson could use that.
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Ah just hope these fellas have strong hamstrings.
We go see if they can stand up to the Sunderland training regimen.
Keane go easy on dem!
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Being reported on SSN that Chimbonda is also having a medical today
Ah just hope these fellas have strong hamstrings.
We go see if they can stand up to the Sunderland training regimen.
Keane go easy on dem!
Funny you should say that the club have just got a new fitness coach, a spaniard from Liverpool
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Chimbonda.. Questionable buy. Excellent if his attitude is good but not sure why he's a priority when they already have Bardsley.
But after Bardsley they have who? Nosworthy is a mess at right back. Mc Shane is a mess everywhere. Halford ain't ready for big time. Whitehead alright in that position, but he's a midfielder. Right back was one of their thinnest positions.
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Chimbonda.. Questionable buy. Excellent if his attitude is good but not sure why he's a priority when they already have Bardsley.
But after Bardsley they have who? Nosworthy is a mess at right back. Mc Shane is a mess everywhere. Halford ain't ready for big time. Whitehead alright in that position, but he's a midfielder. Right back was one of their thinnest positions.
Whitehead has been played there but woefully inadequate no pace, no positional sense, not a great tackler. Your right on the other 2 and Halford has already been shipped out on loan.
As I said above I don't like Chimbonda attitude, but he is better going forward than Bardsley about equalish defensively. The midfield is weak as piss especially away from home I can see both playing in some games with Bardsley at right back and Chimbonda in front of him. The club is way short on right sided players. Bardsley has also played centrally.
TT is supposedly an old fashioned midfielder which we haven't got, but has had his injury problems but any additional bite in the centre is welcome in my view.
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SSN are reporting both of the above have signed no confirmation from the club as yet, hadn't a minute ago anyway
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=15265
By Martin Walker
Sunderland have completed the signing of Finland international Teemu Tainio, joining from Tottenham for an undisclosed fee.
The centre midfielder, 28, has signed a three-year deal on Wearside after completing his medical today, and becomes the first Finnish player to sign for the club.
Boss Roy Keane said: "I'm delighted to sign a player of Teemu's experience and quality, he'll be a valuable addition to our squad.
"Teemu has showed versatility, playing in different midfield positions for both Tottenham and his previous club Auxerre.
"But his experience in particular and the fact he has played more than 40 international games shows he has a lot to offer Sunderland."
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Still no official confirmation of Chimbonda.
SSN are reporting tha Kaboul has agreed terms and will have his medical tomorrow.
Apparently just waiting on some paperwork on PC according to SSN
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3861411,00.html
Kaboul agrees Sunderland deal
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Tottenham defender to undergo medical on Friday
By Lewis Rutledge Last updated: 24th July 2008
Younes Kaboul has agreed personal terms with Sunderland ahead of a proposed move to the Stadium of Light, according to Sky Sports News.
The Tottenham defender held talks with Black Cats boss Roy Keane over the weekend and now appears to be on the brink of completing his transfer.
He is set to undergo a medical on Friday before putting pen-to-paper on a contract.
Kaboul's agent Rudy Raba claimed last week the Frenchman was not interested in joining Sunderland, with Portsmouth also in the running to sign him.
But he looks to have been convinced by Keane and could be one of four Spurs players to make the switch to Wearside.
Sunderland have already signed Teemu Tainio on a three-year deal and Pascal Chimbonda is expected to follow in the very near future.
Steed Malbranque has also met with Keane to discuss personal terms.
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Sunderland sign up veteran Colgan
BBC Sport
Colgan won nine caps for the Republic of Ireland over five years
Sunderland have signed veteran Republic of Ireland international goalkeeper Nick Colgan on a free transfer.
Colgan, 34, was with Ipswich Town last season and admits he is looking forward to the prospect of joining up with compatriot Roy Keane on Wearside.
"It's a huge challenge I'm really looking forward to," Colgan told the club's official website.
"He [Keane] told me he wants to carry a good squad of goalkeepers and it's my job to bring my experience to others."
Colgan will compete for a place in the side with first-choice keeper Craig Gordon, Darren Ward and Marton Fulop, who has recently been linked with a move to Premier League newcomers Stoke City.
Having left his hometown team Drogheda United for Chelsea in 1992, Colgan has represented 12 British clubs including Hibernian and Barnsley.
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Sunderland sign up veteran Colgan
BBC Sport
Colgan won nine caps for the Republic of Ireland over five years
Sunderland have signed veteran Republic of Ireland international goalkeeper Nick Colgan on a free transfer.
Colgan, 34, was with Ipswich Town last season and admits he is looking forward to the prospect of joining up with compatriot Roy Keane on Wearside.
"It's a huge challenge I'm really looking forward to," Colgan told the club's official website.
"He [Keane] told me he wants to carry a good squad of goalkeepers and it's my job to bring my experience to others."
Colgan will compete for a place in the side with first-choice keeper Craig Gordon, Darren Ward and Marton Fulop, who has recently been linked with a move to Premier League newcomers Stoke City.
Having left his hometown team Drogheda United for Chelsea in 1992, Colgan has represented 12 British clubs including Hibernian and Barnsley.
This means they'll probably sell reserve keeper Martin Fulop for decent change now.
But Nick Colgan wtf??
Gordon better stay healthy.
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I think the money on offer for Fulop may be too good to turn down. Ward I am not too happy with, Carson the reserve keeper will be in front of this one I think. If Fulop goes I still think the club would need to buy a replacement.
Its reported he has just done his coaching badges so maybe a look at to replace Tim Carter (RIP)
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Black Cats agree deal for Cork ace
By: Gareth Maher (Setanta Sports)
Setantasports.com can confirm that Sunderland have agreed a deal with Cork City for young midfielder David Meyler.
The two clubs have been in negotiations for the 19-year-old for some time with the eircom Premier Division side eager to keep hold of their youth star.
The adaptable midfielder only signed his first professional contract with the FAI Ford Cup champions this season, but he will now make the move to Wearside in a bid to establish himself in Roy Keane's squad.
While a fee for the player has yet to be revealed, it is believed that he will be unveiled by the Premier League club early next week as their newest arrival.
"David Meyler will be going to Sunderland," Cork City manager Alan Matthews confirmed to setantasports.com.
"I expect him to leave us very soon."
Meyler will be the second player in two years to leave Turner's Cross for the Stadium Of Light after The Black Cats added Roy O'Donovan to their ranks last term.
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Keane gone back running down these shitty Irish players again. steups
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omarldinho
I mentioned this days ago(4/5 posts up), very similar to Mvoto, bought as potential stick in reserves he is very young for a central midfielder, the club also brought in a younger Australian lad for the youths and are busy having a few more on trial. Its fairly obvious there are 2 lots of transfers going on at the minute, 1 for the first team 1 for potential / bargains. I don't have a problem with it tbh as long as its not for the first team. The kid hasn't even been playing for their 1st team.
This year prem clubs are allowed 7 subs on the bench expect to see a few youngsters on there as the kids have done well the last couple of years and 6/7 of them are old enough to move upto the reserves for the 1st time this year.
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Keane gone back running down these shitty Irish players again. steups
I mean... if you was in Keane position, tell me you wouldn't be trying to sign a Hyland or a Guerra or some other young Trini with potential. It might be a sentimental decision, but as long as the players have genuine potential, I don't blame him.
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Roy Keane offers Marseilles £7 million as he continues to spend after raid on Tottenham squad.
By: Gary Jacob (Times Online).
As Sunderland edged closer to signing two more Tottenham Hotspur players, Roy Keane, the manager, stepped up his ambitious transfer strategy this summer with a bid of up to £7million for Taye Ismaila Taïwo, the Marseilles left back. Taïwo, 23, was named African young player of the year two years ago, 12 months after he helped Nigeria to reach the World Youth Championship final. He joined Marseilles four years ago.
If a deal is completed, Taïwo could join a new-look Sunderland defence that could include Younès Kaboul, the Tottenham centre back who will have a medical today after agreeing personal terms, two days after Teemu Tainio joined from White Hart Lane, with Pascal Chimbonda set to follow. Sunderland are braced for an approach from Rangers for Dickson Etuhu, the midfield player who joined from Norwich City last summer for £1.5million.
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Tainio... Good buy. That fellah could play centre mid and also cover Carlos on the right wing.
Chimbonda.. Questionable buy. Excellent if his attitude is good but not sure why he's a priority when they already have Bardsley.
Kaboul.. Good buy. Has something to prove and could be a revelation given a steady run at CB. Also will get his share of goals.
Malbranque.. Good buy for the left wing. Gives the option to move Richardson infield for some creativity or provide competition, and we know Richardson could use that.
Those are all solid players perhaps that any team (outside the top 4) would be more than happy to have.
While you're right about Chimbonda's attitude but on his day he's one of the best in his position. The good news is that I think he'll workhard and give it his best...the bad news will be that he'll be looking for a bigger clubs to come get him when he's back on form.
Everything else there is pretty much on the money.
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Kaboul Update
Has postponed his medical and wants another 24 hours due to family issues reports SSN. I don't think it is any coincidence that its being reported that Portsmouth have accepted a bid for Mutari from Inter. Rednapp has been whinging all week that he needs to sell before he can buy and wants Kaboul. The sky reported who broke the news said he spoken to Kaboul yesterday who was very upbeat about the move and coming for the medical etc, but in the early hours he got a phone call from his agent saying he wanted another 24 hours due to "family reasons". Somethings not right and begs the question who rang his agent inbetween SSN getting the 2 phone calls. We'll see but I still suspect he will be a Portsmouth player next season.
Just been reported Villa have made an undisclosed bid so that is probably the reason, not personal reasons, if turns out to be true more than happy if RK pulls the plug on the deal today.
The club are being linked with Taye Ismaila Taïwo - Marsielle (£7 Million)
All I know of the lad is that his is Nigerian left back.
Rangers are being linked with Ethutu.
Oops sorry didn't see FireBrand post
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The club are being linked with Taye Ismaila Taïwo - Marsielle (£7 Million)
All I know of the lad is that his is Nigerian left back.
Kev, are you sure you never heard anything about that Nigerian left back before?? ;)
Keane needs to start to look outside the UK for some talent now that they will have some money to spend..
Yes, it will always be a challenge to attract good talent to Sunderland but dem nonsensical british buys he make like roy odonovan and andy cole will do nothing to help sunderland.
If RK looking for a scout he should give me a call, I'm available and willing to work for only about 100K a year. I'll be looking at good players who want to move to the prem, good players who aren't happy at their clubs and good players who are going to get relegated.
Here's my list of transfer targets that Keane should try to get that I think could be within their reach:
- Djibril Cisse (marseille)
- Taye Taiwo (marseille)
- Peter Crouch (liverpool)
- Andres D'Alessandro (?)
- Jan Koller (?)
- Paul Stalteri (fulham)
- Kevin Nolan (bolton)
- Matt Taylor (bolton)
- Brian McBride (fulham)
- Clint Dempsey (fulham)
- Sean Davis (porstmouth)
- Thomas Gravesen (everton)
- Andy Van Der Meyde (everton)
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Its about time you started earning your fee ;)
Sorry meant haven't really seen him, so can't comment on him seen clips of his free kicks but don't really know if he can defend which tends to be the point of a LB. But we do need one especially if he can get forward and pass. I would of thought given his rep he might cost a bit more than £7 Million though.
Thought the quote was quite funny so thought I would put it up. Although the headline is a bit msileading (Theres a surprise!)
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3864937,00.html
Taiwo keen on Black Cats
Nigerian not ruling out move to Wearside
By Giscard Gourizro Last updated: 25th July 2008
Marseille defender Taye Taiwo has hinted he could be interested in a move to Sunderland.
Sunderland have reportedly tabled a bid for the Nigerian full-back as Roy Keane looks to strengthen his defence.
Taiwo is regarded as one of the best young defenders in Europe and he was named African young player of the year two years ago.
The 23-year-old, who has an eye for goal from set-pieces, says he is unaware of any interest from Sunderland, but admitted he would be keen on linking up with Black Cats boss Keane.
Bid
"I am not aware of any bid from Sunderland," Taiwo told skysports.com.
"However the Premiership is the best league in the world, it can turn anyone's head, but you never know.
"Roy Keane? If you don't know Roy Keane, it means you don't have a clue about football.
"He was a top, top player, so if you have a chance to learn with him it is good, but I love Marseille.
"I am playing in a great team, although you never know."
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Aston Villa has made a late offer for Kaboul so that explains his last minute 'family issues'.
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Not a great deal today, at least should see the end of the Kaboul saga. - WooHoo
You will be surprised to learn Arry is saying he is going to Pompey. (see above)
It looks like Stoke have increased their bid (reportedly £3 Million ish) for Fulop and he is off. Good luck to the lad, he has been out on loan, needs 1st team football and wants to leave to get it. He has said so on a number of occasions but has said it in the right way, just wish more players were as honest as him. Yet to be confirmed but likely it will be today.
Still think we need another keeper as imho Fulop was better than Ward, Nieme (sp Fulham) perhaps a decent option.
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Sunderland sign Spurs' Chimbonda
Sunderland Echo
Sunderland have completed the signing of Tottenham defender Pascal Chimbonda.
The 29-year-old joins the Black Cats on a three-year deal.
Spurs paid £4.5m for the versatile defender when they captured him from Wigan two seasons ago.
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Beat me to it firebrand, glad I am not just talking to myself - thankyou ;D
I think he is a decent enough player but as I said above I don't like his attitude. The delay has been about his payoff from Spuds "loyalty payment"
http://www.safc.com/index.php?page_id=15292
By Martin Walker
Sunderland have completed the signing of full-back Pascal Chimbonda from Tottenham.
The 29-year-old defender, who can play in both right and left-back positions as well as in the centre of defence, has penned a three-year contract at the Stadium of Light after the two clubs agreed an uncdisclosed fee.
Roy Keane, the Sunderland manager, said: "Pascal is one of those rare players who can play anywhere across the back line and that will be invaluable to us, so naturally we\'re very pleased to secure his services.
"He has a lot of Premier League experience which can only be a plus for us and he'll give us more options at the back, creating more competition for places there, so all-in-all it's a fantastic signing for us."
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Ok so lewwe see how this work in progress looking as it currently stands today...
Sunderland's ideal XI
Gordon
Chimbonda Nosworthy Higginbottom Collins
Edwards Tainio Reid Richardson
Jones Chopra
they still need to do something about those positions in red as a matter or critical importance..
I would have to say at this point, Bent/Saha, Taiwo and Evans or another good central defender would put them in a good position ahead of this season.
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Ok so lewwe see how this work in progress looking as it currently stands today...
Sunderland's ideal XI
Gordon
Bardsley Chimbonda Nosworthy Collins
Edwards Tainio Reid Richardson
Jones Chopra
they still need to do something about those positions in red as a matter or critical importance..
I would have to say at this point, Bent/Saha, Taiwo and Evans or another good central defender would put them in a good position ahead of this season.
I changed Bardsley because I can't see Nos and DH starting as CD.
AF has already said Evans is going nowhere so he is out. Still haven't heard from Kaboul but if ( I doubt it) he does sign him and Nos wouldn't instill me with a great deal of confidence as a CD partnership.
Still need another Central MF (preferably 2) and Right Side Player Rumours about Diouf (don't want him)
Need a CF but there has been whispers about Briand.
RK has never really liked DC at LB so expect so more rumours about that position aswell.
Still no news whatsoever on Malbranque.
If he can get another 4/5 players in of similar quality then the squad will have a solid look about it. The club are giving very strong hints there will be more news next week, apart from teh Spuds players. fingers crossed.
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BBC
Sunderland move for forward Diouf
Diouf joined Liverpool for £10m in 2002 after impressing for Lens
El-Hadji Diouf is on the verge of a £2.5m move to Sunderland as the Black Cats continue their rebuilding plans ahead of the new Premier League season.
The Senegal international, 27, had one season left on his Bolton contract but had expressed his desire to leave.
Diouf, who can play as a striker or on the wing, spent four seasons at the Reebok Stadium after initially joining the club on loan from Liverpool.
The player is due to have a medical at the Stadium of Light later on Sunday.
Sunderland manager Roy Keane has been busy in the transfer market in recent days, signing Tottenham duo Teemu Tainio and Pascal Chimbonda.
He is also interested in signing two more Spurs players, Steed Malbranque and Younes Kabul, as he looks to strengthen his squad.
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BBC
Sunderland move for forward Diouf
Diouf joined Liverpool for £10m in 2002 after impressing for Lens
El-Hadji Diouf is on the verge of a £2.5m move to Sunderland as the Black Cats continue their rebuilding plans ahead of the new Premier League season.
The Senegal international, 27, had one season left on his Bolton contract but had expressed his desire to leave.
Diouf, who can play as a striker or on the wing, spent four seasons at the Reebok Stadium after initially joining the club on loan from Liverpool.
The player is due to have a medical at the Stadium of Light later on Sunday.
Sunderland manager Roy Keane has been busy in the transfer market in recent days, signing Tottenham duo Teemu Tainio and Pascal Chimbonda.
He is also interested in signing two more Spurs players, Steed Malbranque and Younes Kabul, as he looks to strengthen his squad.
This out to be interesting, a characcter like Diouf playing for Roy Keane. I wonder how long before they clash.
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BBC
Sunderland move for forward Diouf
Diouf joined Liverpool for £10m in 2002 after impressing for Lens
El-Hadji Diouf is on the verge of a £2.5m move to Sunderland as the Black Cats continue their rebuilding plans ahead of the new Premier League season.
The Senegal international, 27, had one season left on his Bolton contract but had expressed his desire to leave.
Diouf, who can play as a striker or on the wing, spent four seasons at the Reebok Stadium after initially joining the club on loan from Liverpool.
The player is due to have a medical at the Stadium of Light later on Sunday.
Sunderland manager Roy Keane has been busy in the transfer market in recent days, signing Tottenham duo Teemu Tainio and Pascal Chimbonda.
He is also interested in signing two more Spurs players, Steed Malbranque and Younes Kabul, as he looks to strengthen his squad.
This out to be interesting, a characcter like Diouf playing for Roy Keane. I wonder how long before they clash.
I think the same, he goes missing far too often and his "character" is debatable, I don't know how long it will take into the season, but it will happen. I must admit to having a chuckle when fans change their opinions on players because they sign for the club.
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I predict a spitting incident in their first match vs Liverpool...Diouf is a bad idea :beermug:
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I predict a spitting incident in their first match vs Liverpool...Diouf is a bad idea :beermug:
No argument from me on that one.
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I am not a fan of Diouf (the person, because of all the stories abt him, spitting beating his gyul etc:) but I do think he is a good baller and is a better player than a lot of the current Sunderland players...
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Downing linked to Black Cats
Keane looking to bring in 'five or six' players
Sky Sports
Middlesbrough winger Stewart Downing has been linked with Sunderland after manager Roy Keane admitted he is looking at players of 'Premier League class'.
Black Cats boss Keane is splashing the cash this summer as he seeks to add more quality to his squad after ensuring top flight survival last term.
Downing, rated at £12million, is the latest to be linked to Sunderland as speculation suggests Boro might let the player go after signing Marvin Emnes.
Keane has already recruited a flurry of players this summer, and expects more to come in.
Next level
He told the Sunday Mirror: "I know the five or six players we're looking to bring in the next week or two would excite me in terms of bringing us to the next level.
"They will all be genuine Premier League class.
"The higher the quality of the player, the higher the wage packet, so it's a test for the club on that side of it because we have to be able to pay the sort of wages needed to get top Premier League stars."
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i doh really like to toot meh own horn, but allyuh eh realize some sunderland scout peeping my posts on this forum then claiming how he did the legwork for the scouting? i think i might have to get a good lawyer and sue.. :D
Following the players being made available via relegation, out of contract and other circumstances..
what do you guys think of the feasibility of these guys as Sunderland targets:
- Lee Carsley (Everton - out of contract), but 34yrs old
- El Hadji Diouf (Botlon)
- Stephen Hunt (Reading)
- Nickey Shorey (Reading)
- Kevin Doyle (Reading)
- Steve Sidwell (Chelsea)
- Richard Dunne (Manchester City)
but on ah serious note, i think Diouf is a hit or miss but that is the kinda player Roy Keane have to look for.. The pros is he is proven premiership quality and also will not have a problem with life up on that side of the country.. If he is motivated enough he can be a real bargain at 2.5 million and can be a revelation.. He can play forward or on the wing and will give a steady supply of crosses for the forwards plus provide competition/cover on the right wing.
the cons however is he is ah damn head case and also have some kinda mercenary qualities so he could just be going to Sunderland to reek in ah nice contract and coast.. He is a well documented asshole and that could be detrimental to team morale.
This is where Roy Keane hadda earn he salary to get the best out of this player.
Good buy imo.
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Diouf will probably send Carlos to the bench. Unless they mostly plan on using him as a forward.
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Diouf will probably send Carlos to the bench. Unless they mostly plan on using him as a forward.
De way Carlos playing these days, that may very well be de case.
Oh...Carlos featured in a Sunderland XI today. They played against Hamilton and lost 2-1. I don't think he was involved in Sunderland's lone goal.
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Beat me to it firebrand, glad I am not just talking to myself - thankyou ;D
Nah man... we appreciate de updates. You are welcome! :beermug:
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BBC
Sunderland move for forward Diouf
Diouf joined Liverpool for £10m in 2002 after impressing for Lens
El-Hadji Diouf is on the verge of a £2.5m move to Sunderland as the Black Cats continue their rebuilding plans ahead of the new Premier League season.
The Senegal international, 27, had one season left on his Bolton contract but had expressed his desire to leave.
Diouf, who can play as a striker or on the wing, spent four seasons at the Reebok Stadium after initially joining the club on loan from Liverpool.
The player is due to have a medical at the Stadium of Light later on Sunday.
Sunderland manager Roy Keane has been busy in the transfer market in recent days, signing Tottenham duo Teemu Tainio and Pascal Chimbonda.
He is also interested in signing two more Spurs players, Steed Malbranque and Younes Kabul, as he looks to strengthen his squad.
This out to be interesting, a characcter like Diouf playing for Roy Keane. I wonder how long before they clash.
Just remember dat breddah loaded wid skills and he is a proven EPL player. His character is a bit questionable, but remember a lot of years have gone by and most people get mature and look at life differently as dey get older (the things they did, they do no more). So wid dat said, I think Diouf will be an excellent signing for Keane, he already have the talent, he is getting a fresh start, which is what he wanted. Diouf and everyone in de football circle know dat Keane doh ramp wid nobody, when it come to business on de pitch. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Team USA
Kobe"All Day" Bryant- Not much to say here, we all know what he can do. In basketball, after Wade, dat is meh boi, so is nuff and love support for him.
Dwayne" Flash" Wade - Well, well, de flash is back. He had 20 points in an exhibition game against Canada, including a windmill dunk, that made everyone at de Las Vegas centre rose off their seats :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:.
A healthy Wade, Beasley and Marion. NBA teams, how you like me now 8) ?
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Team USA
Kobe"All Day" Bryant- Not much to say here, we all know what he can do. In basketball, after Wade, dat is meh boi, so is nuff and love support for him.
Dwayne" Flash" Wade - Well, well, de flash is back. He had 20 points in an exhibition game against Canada, including a windmill dunk, that made everyone at de Las Vegas centre rose off their seats :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:.
A healthy Wade, Beasley and Marion. NBA teams, how you like me now 8) ?
USA NOT winnin Gold in Men's Basketball in Beijing! 8)
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Provided he stays fit, this will be a big move for Sunderland.
Saha is the £10M target for Keane
By Niall Hickman (Daily Express)
SUNDERLAND manager Roy Keane has tabled a £10million bid for out-of-favour Manchester United striker Louis Saha.
Keane, who completed Pascal Chimbonda’s £4m move over the weekend, is desperate to improve his depleted strike force because Kenwyne Jones could miss most of the season with a serious knee injury.
Saha has promised to give Keane an answer in the next few days, but the Frenchman has been impressed with Sunderland’s ambitious plans and the promise of first-team action.
But Keane might have to increase his offer, with Sir Alex Ferguson seeking to hold out for £12million. Keane would pair Saha with El-Hadji Diouf as the Bolton striker had a medical at the Stadium of Light ahead of agreeing a £2.5m deal.
Diouf was left out of Bolton’s pre-season friendly at Macclesfield on Saturday.
Keane yesterday celebrated Chimbonda’s arrival, saying: “Pascal is one of those rare players who can play anywhere across the back line and that will be invaluable.
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Provided he stays fit, this will be a big move for Sunderland.
Saha is the £10M target for Keane
By Niall Hickman (Daily Express)
SUNDERLAND manager Roy Keane has tabled a £10million bid for out-of-favour Manchester United striker Louis Saha.
Keane, who completed Pascal Chimbonda’s £4m move over the weekend, is desperate to improve his depleted strike force because Kenwyne Jones could miss most of the season with a serious knee injury.
Saha has promised to give Keane an answer in the next few days, but the Frenchman has been impressed with Sunderland’s ambitious plans and the promise of first-team action.
But Keane might have to increase his offer, with Sir Alex Ferguson seeking to hold out for £12million. Keane would pair Saha with El-Hadji Diouf as the Bolton striker had a medical at the Stadium of Light ahead of agreeing a £2.5m deal.
Diouf was left out of Bolton’s pre-season friendly at Macclesfield on Saturday.
Keane yesterday celebrated Chimbonda’s arrival, saying: “Pascal is one of those rare players who can play anywhere across the back line and that will be invaluable.
This is great news, even if it's rumour and speculation. Finally, after a quiet summer Sunderland seem to be moving and getting players in. And not just that, but players with proven EPL experienc, and in the right roles needed, i.e. defensive, wing.
Now get some MIDFIELDERS Roy!
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I am not a fan of Diouf (the person, because of all the stories abt him, spitting beating his gyul etc:) but I do think he is a good baller and is a better player than a lot of the current Sunderland players...
I also thought he was a talented baller after watching him play for Senegal at the World Cup. However, I don't like how he chooses to use his talents on the field for his clubs. I've been rather disappoiinted. Not to mention his attitude. I'll probably give him another chance simply because RK has decided he is worth pursuing. Hopefully he changes or has changed things around.
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Team USA
Kobe"All Day" Bryant- Not much to say here, we all know what he can do. In basketball, after Wade, dat is meh boi, so is nuff and love support for him.
Dwayne" Flash" Wade - Well, well, de flash is back. He had 20 points in an exhibition game against Canada, including a windmill dunk, that made everyone at de Las Vegas centre rose off their seats :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:.
A healthy Wade, Beasley and Marion. NBA teams, how you like me now 8) ?
USA NOT winnin Gold in Men's Basketball in Beijing! 8)
SUPA, yuh hijacking people thread again?? Whey de mods?? ;D ;D ;D
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Harry Redknapp fears Portsmouth will miss out on signing Younes Kaboul because the South Coast club are third in line for the Tottenham defender.
Pompey manager Redknapp has made no secret of his desire to land Kaboul, who joined Spurs last July, as he looks to strengthen his squad ahead of next season's Uefa Cup campaign.
However, Redknapp is concerned he will be beaten to Kaboul's signature by Sunderland, who have already landed former White Hart Lane players Teemu Tainio and Pascal Chimbonda, or Aston Villa.
"I still want to bring in Kaboul but he has spoken with Sunderland," Redknapp told The News. "I know Aston Villa also want him.
Struggle
"I went to see him last year before he joined Spurs, and drank Moroccan tea with his parents.
"But Roy Keane has met him now too. I'd say we are third now behind the other two teams."
Redknapp admits his side are struggling for defenders, and wingers, and is eager to bring in reinforcements.
"We need another centre-back and we're short in wide positions," Redknapp added on Pompey's official website.
Looks like Harry is playing transfer games. Kaboul's apparently signing for all 3 clubs, but prefers Portsmouth???
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Diouf Confirmed Today
The Saha rumour above, any club willing to pay anywhere near £10 Million for him with his injury record is off their heads, personally don't believe it. But I don't have a good record on these things.
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=86
By Martin Walker
Sunderland have completed the signing of striker El-Hadji Diouf from Bolton.
The Senegal international has signed a four-year contract at the Stadium of Light after the Black Cats agreed an undisclosed fee with Bolton.
Diouf, 27, becomes Sunderland's fifth new signing of the summer, following Teemu Tainio, Nick Colgan, David Meyler and Pascal Chimbonda, who all joined the club last week.
Roy Keane is delighted to have signed a player that opposition clubs "love to hate".
"El-Hadji is a great signing for us and we're thrilled to get him in," said the Sunderland boss.
"He has bags of Premier League and international experience, which is exactly what we've been targeting this summer.
"El-Hadji has always been the kind of player opposition teams and supporters love to hate, a thorn in the side, and that's why we're delighted to now have him in our squad.
"Our coach, Ricky Sbragia, has also worked very closely with him and speaks extremely highly of him, so we're looking forward to working with El-Hadji, I think he's a signing that will excite our supporters."
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Quality signing. Just hope Keane can control Diouf and Chimbonda and stop them from spoiling a sound dressing room atmosphere.
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10 million quid for Saha......Fergie..dont f**king blink...take that and buy Berba lol ;D
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After dem Sunderland games, Kenny and Carlos better keep an eye on Diouf in de showers yes. :devil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bKc2r9WanI
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Hrrrmmm
Bolton just sold the only player they have capable of scoring a goal.
No replacement for Anelka yet....me thinks they will be in trouble.
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Hrrrmmm
Bolton just sold the only player they have capable of scoring a goal.
No replacement for Anelka yet....me thinks they will be in trouble.
They already have a replacement for Diouf. At least, so they say.
See: Bolton capture Dutch winger Riga. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/bolton_wanderers/7529645.stm
A replacement for Anelka, however, is a different story.
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They bought that striker for £10 Million Elmander or something like that
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there is no way diouf is a good buy, football goes beyond the pitch
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Maybe under Keane's leadership Diouf may settledown.
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there is no way diouf is a good buy, football goes beyond the pitch
Nah Man...Yorkie will show him how it's done. You could do all your nonsense in your personal life as long as you are professional on the pitch. I hope he get to be a striker though.
He was originally a speedy striker for Senegal when he was nicknamed the "serial killer" but went to Liverpool and get shunted to the wing (as did Cisse, Kuyt, Voronin, Pongolle) and his game change since then. I liken him to Colin Samuels...he probably a real good striker but never get a chance to play in that role long enough to really perform in it. Look how Henry transform when he became a striker as opposed to being on the wing? One could only hope cause he is definitely better class than Chopra, Donavon and the rest of those guys...
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Posted this article because its full of quotes from RK.
http://www.journallive.co.uk/newcastle-sports/safc/safc-news/2008/07/29/cats-haven-t-finished-in-transfer-market-61634-21421432/
Cats haven't finished in transfer market
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Jul 29 2008 by Mark Douglas, The Journal
Roy Keane
AFTER clinching the signature of Bolton forward El-Hadji Diouf, Roy Keane is looking to bring in "four or five" more new players to complete his summer recruitment programme.
The Sunderland manager, who says he will know whether Steed Malbranque and Younes Kaboul will be Sunderland players by tonight, is hopeful of further strengthening before the end of the week.
Keane – who also said he has no interest in and has not made a bid for Manchester United striker Louis Saha – remains hopeful over the Tottenham pair, but is prepared to move to other targets if they do decide to turn him down.
“I think I would like to bring in four or five more, including the two players from Tottenham,” he said.
“We will know on them (Kaboul and Malbranque) in the next 24 hours. It’s a big decision for them, I appreciate that.
“I think the financial stuff is completed with Younes, but I think there are one or two things to be sorted out with Malbranque, which will probably be through his agent. Hopefully by tonight we’ll know whether they’re Sunderland players.
“It gets to a point where you need to know. I think I waited five weeks for David Nugent – I won’t be waiting five weeks for anyone this season.”
And, aiming a swipe at Portsmouth boss Harry Redknapp, he revealed that Sunderland are the only club to have had a bid accepted for Kaboul. “I know we are the only club that has agreed a fee with Tottenham because we are in constant conversation with them. But I know the way the game works,” he said.
The seal was put on Sunderland’s biggest deal since Keane took charge yesterday afternoon when El-Hadji Diouf signed a four-year contract after successfully completing a medical.
For a fee in the region of £2.5m the Senegal international represents superb business for the
Black Cats, who desperately needed to add guile to an attack that too often struggled to breach resolute Premier League defences last season.
Diouf possesses that in abundance, and for all the controversy he has courted on and off the pitch since he came to England, he is a player of genuine Premier League class. His record of 24 goals in 172 appearances in England is hardly prolific but that hardly reflects the influence the former African player of the year has exerted in his four years at Bolton.
Diouf’s capture will be followed by other signings before Sunderland kick off their Premier League campaign against Liverpool on August 16. And the manager’s buoyant tone after the game – added to the hints being dropped by club insiders – would indicate that another impact signing to match Diouf is on the horizon.
The interest in Tottenham’s Darren Bent remains, although following the sale of Robbie Keane to Liverpool, the Londoners’ manager Juande Ramos will have to sign reinforcements before Sunderland make progress on that front.
For the moment, the signing of Diouf represents the clearest indication yet that the Wearsiders are aiming high in the transfer market as they look to bring in players capable of extending their ambition beyond simply staying in the top flight.
And Keane last night brushed aside concerns over Diouf’s controversial past, saying he feels the player is right for Sunderland.
“I’ve learned not to listen to what people say about players and if you have ambitions to be a top manager you have to manage different players and different kinds of characters,” he said.
As for Kaboul, the giant defender who has already agreed personal terms with the Black Cats, Keane insists that Sunderland are the only team who have been given permission by his club to speak to the player. There will be growing irritation at the Stadium of Light that the machinations of Kaboul’s protracted move away from Spurs are being played out in public, but his agent, Rudy Raba, told The Journal last night the Black Cats are still in the hunt.
Although he was staying tight-lipped about his client’s intentions, he did confirm that Sunderland’s interest was ongoing and said that the prospect of a move to the Stadium of Light remains appealing to the French defender.
“Aston Villa and Portsmouth are two other clubs that have shown an interest,” Raba said from France last night. “But he is still interested in going to Sunderland – of course he is. At the moment I can’t say when a decision will be made.”
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Sunderland will be good they taking themselves to another level..I'm excited ...If they get saha or downing and lord forbid both they will be a top 6 team
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Sunderland will be good they taking themselves to another level..I'm excited ...If they get saha or downing and lord forbid both they will be a top 6 team
Yuh eh see de man now say he not interested in Saha??
On another topic, Kaboul agent sound like he just angling fuh more money or something.
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Sunderland playing Notts Forest tom; i going to the game to see if any of the new signings get a sweat and to see how carlos looking up close.
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Hrrrmmm
Bolton just sold the only player they have capable of scoring a goal.
No replacement for Anelka yet....me thinks they will be in trouble.
That is why I was disappointed they ended up staying up. I feel Birmingham has more ambition than Bolton and played more attractive football than Bolton. They stay to continue being medicore and happy to finish 4th form the bottom every season!
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Sunderland will be good they taking themselves to another level..I'm excited ...If they get saha or downing and lord forbid both they will be a top 6 team
Yuh eh see de man now say he not interested in Saha??
On another topic, Kaboul agent sound like he just angling fuh more money or something.
tbf I put it in bold after he made his comment so others would notice it.
Kaboul doesn't want to come to Sunderland he wants to go to Portsmouth, but doesn't want to turn down the Sunderland money as he can use it for the same deal. If we withdraw his choices suddenly become very limited having already burnt his bridges at Spuds. Don't want him tbh.
Fli hope you enjoy the game, watched it last night on a link and Tanio looks a very tidy player, just solid no tricks etc. Best tell Carlos to get his arse into gear because he will not be automatic choice anymore after the transfer window shuts and he needs to find some form fairly quickly.
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Team USA
Kobe"All Day" Bryant- Not much to say here, we all know what he can do. In basketball, after Wade, dat is meh boi, so is nuff and love support for him.
Dwayne" Flash" Wade - Well, well, de flash is back. He had 20 points in an exhibition game against Canada, including a windmill dunk, that made everyone at de Las Vegas centre rose off their seats :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:.
A healthy Wade, Beasley and Marion. NBA teams, how you like me now 8) ?
USA NOT winnin Gold in Men's Basketball in Beijing! 8)
Palos, yuh right yes dey cah win de gold. Hear nah, but de way Canada playing dey have ah real good chance ah winning de gold ::). Family yuh know ah just playing ;D.
Seriously now, I totally respect your opinion and it is a solid one 2. The time when Wade, Anthony and dem went and get dey azz well cut. Before dey played a game in dat tournament I was thinking, damn, dat is advantage for these superstars to play dem nobody in de Olympics. Well I was :o and I have learnt dat de International game is a completely different type of basketball. It is just not taking ah bunch of superstars and big money NBA players and assembling dem last minute, dat will not make it.
However, I based my confidence on these facts, the team have been practicing together for a while now (not last minute like before) Wade, Anthony and crew have learnt from dat last humiliation and de entire team seem to be very hungry to prove a point to the world. Well here is de extra weapon we have, we have a committed Kobe Bryant, dat is sharing de ball. My boi (Kobe) said in an interview recently dat you can have all de NBA rings in your house, but winnin de gold in de Olympics, will definitely complete his collection and career as a player. Remember, dis is not de Lakers, where he have to do most of de work by himself, de man have huge help on de court and on de bench. So my friend Palos, just watch de ride, seen ;) :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Beijing, when all yuh see Wade, just run fuh shade.
When all yuh see Kobe, well is den all yuh have tuh hold all yuh head and be sorry. Team USA :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:.
Wid dat said, huge large up tuh meh country of birth and their crew for de Olympics. I don't know too many of dem, I know de runners for sure. I wish de entire crew all de best. De 100 and 200m will be very difficult to get a medal, cuz men like Bolt and de Americans of course, dey will not be easy. We have about 2 or 3 Yankees running from Florida, boi dem is real problems yes. However, on de day of de race, anything can happen, just like how Crawford surprised dem, and did whoop some azz back den. T&T are full of surprises in sports, we are blessed, so I'm expecting some thing to go down for us. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Sunderland have ah basketball side now?? :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Sunderland have ah basketball side now?? :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yuh know me eh business, I discussing anything under any thread ;) :rotfl:. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Team USA
Kobe"All Day" Bryant- Not much to say here, we all know what he can do. In basketball, after Wade, dat is meh boi, so is nuff and love support for him.
Dwayne" Flash" Wade - Well, well, de flash is back. He had 20 points in an exhibition game against Canada, including a windmill dunk, that made everyone at de Las Vegas centre rose off their seats :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:.
A healthy Wade, Beasley and Marion. NBA teams, how you like me now 8) ?
USA NOT winnin Gold in Men's Basketball in Beijing! 8)
SUPA, yuh hijacking people thread again?? Whey de mods?? ;D ;D ;D
;). HIGHLY BLESSED.
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It has been reported by L'Equpie last night that Malbranque has agreed a 4 year deal and kaboul is off to Portsmouth (probably)
None of the UK press have as yet picked up on it, but the paper is very rarely wrong
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Malbranque is now currently undergoing a medical - very good signing for us if everything goes OK from here on in. With the Kaboul saga not counting chickens yet
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Looks like the singing of Bentley by Tottenham has pushed this one through as Malbrounques chances of a first team place has been diminshed. Three out of the four is not to bad. Bollocks to Kaboul!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7530274.stm
Malbranque nears Sunderland move
Tottenham midfielder Steed Malbranque is having a medical at Sunderland after the Frenchman appeared to decide his future lies at the Stadium of Light.
Black Cats boss Roy Keane gave Malbranque, 28, and fellow Spurs player Younes Kaboul 24 hours to make up their minds on joining the club on Tuesday.
Malbranque seems on his way but Kaboul, who is also wanted by Aston Villa and Portsmouth, is keeping Keane waiting.
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Now if they could just get some help in central defense...
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Breaking Sky Sports news. Kaboul doesnt want to sign for Sunderland. He wants to wait for Portsmouth.
Maybe good as he was a gamble buy judging by a lot of peoples opinions. Not proven Prem quality. Bit eratic according to some.
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Not surprised. RK should just walk away from this one.
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Mose, I mentioned it a while ago how Arry was trying to work things, RK as posted above gave them 24 hours. I think it might be a case of making Arry pay for his chatter or doing Spuds a favour, I can't believe the club are still interested after all of the quotes, but I have been proved wrong before.
Very strong rumour Balde in talks, I'm already on record on here in saying RK needs to improve in the transfer market, if there is truth in this and he does sign him then he doesn't seemed to have learnt from last season and this is just a total waste of money - my opinion for whats its worth.
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I find it hard to believe people are that interested in Balde. Never been particularly impressed with him.
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I am still very worried about that sunderland backline........
No Evans this year!!
Sunderland needs a defender who can read the game better than Noswothy and McShane who, in my opinion are not premiership quality.
If nothing doesnt happen, i feel that this season is going to be a tough one for Craig Gordon.
ah love it!!
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Balde's legs have gone, if he signs and plays him he will cost goals.
Andre
Thats what Kaboul was for, we desperately need a good solid CH ( if not 2 being greedy) and preferably a good left back who can pass and get forward.
The midfield is shaping up quite well, still would prefer another defensive midfielder
Kenwyns injury has caused problems so we need another CF.
BTW I read somewhere he is due a new scan today / tomorrow so I would expect some news later in the week as to whats happening with him.
If we can get the defence sorted we have the makings of a semi decent prem team that shouldn't be flirting with relegation for most of the season. Although a tricky start and needing to settle might see us down there in the 1st month or so.
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Nosworthy is capable ...... Mc Shane is horrific!
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=15327
Malbranque signs for Sunderland
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By Martin Walker
Sunderland today clinched their sixth new signing of the summer as Steed Malbranque joined the club from Tottenham.
The 28-year-old midfielder has signed a four-year deal with the Black Cats after the two clubs agreed an undisclosed fee.
Malbranque, a Belgian-born French international, joins Finnish midfielder Teemu Tainio and countryman Pascal Chimbonda from Spurs, Senegal striker El-Hadji Diouf from Bolton as well as Irish duo Nick Colgan, the goalkeeper, and young midfielder David Meyler from Cork.
Sunderland boss Roy Keane said: "Steed is another signing which will excite our supporters and we're delighted to have him here.
"He's played in the Premier League for six or seven years now and has been a consistent performer for both Tottenham and Fulham - he creates a lot for the team and can chip in with a goal or two.
"Steed is a very tricky player and is always looking for the ball and looking to open teams up. He'll certainly offer something different to our team and will further increase competition for places in the midfield area."
Good Signing
RK comment on Kaboul not coming
"Maybe I should of taken him to a casino until 4 in the morning like another manager did"
He's not shy that lad
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Steed's a great signing for you guys Kev and with the others made so far Sunderland is looking solid this year. I can't see them flirting with relegation like they did last year.
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Santa Ramos yes.....Christmas come early for Roy
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Right seems to have gone quiet but here goes
Balde rumours are getting stronger - he has been for talks my comment :o
No real news on a proper CH replacement for Evans yet, I am starting to worry our defence is garbage.
No real news on a forward yet, although everybody under the sun has been mentioned.
It seems common knowledge that we did indeed have a bid accepted for Bent but Robbie Keane and Berbatov rumours/approaches put it back as you would expect. No answer to whether he would of come or not, still don't think Ramos wants him so I suspect he will move either very late on once Spuds have bought or in January.
Outs
Wallace has gone to Preston on loan.
Fulops deal with Stoke fell through so he is now back at the club.
Rumours
Higginbottom and Whitehead to Stoke (might explain Balde)
McShane to Charlton (might explain Balde)
Ethutu to Rangers
Prica back to Sweden on paid /fee basedloan.
The club need a big clear out but I think it is more likely in Jan than now depending on how we are off for points then.
No further news on KJ injury status yet.
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Just saw an interview with Mick McCarthy (former Sunderland coach) coach of Wolves on Sky Sports News. Apparently they (Wolves) are trying to get Balde.
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i dream someone tell me Kj pass ah fitness test oui
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i dream someone tell me Kj pass ah fitness test oui
maybe as a chrissy present, I think
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The Saha rumours are back as the club seems to be getting desperate re a striker, the Hammers are also reportedly interested.
Good player - big gamble on fitness.
Shorey from Reading, wants to leave last year of contract and Reading want shot, Portsmouth and Villa are in competition for his signature.
Don't know what he is really like defensively haven't seen enough of him.
No news on a CH although the club are still trying to buy Evans from Manu, there maybe an opportunity of a season long loan deal if the rumours are to believed.
Can't see manu selling Evans but a fee loan deal would make sense for both clubs, so hope so.
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Rooney has contracted a virus and will be out for the first couple weeks of the season.
So Sunderland can forget about Saha for now...
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Rooney has contracted a virus and will be out for the first couple weeks of the season.
So Sunderland can forget about Saha for now...
Saha is not in Manu plans will be gone before the season starts if he can pass a medical or get a club to take a risk with a psuedo medical, I think the medical term is he is f**ked.
Quote from SAF on SSN the other day, as RK found out once your gone at Manu you are gone
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...901294,00.html
Sir Alex Ferguson has ruled out another loan move for promising Manchester United striker Fraizer Campbell.
The 20-year-old, who has previously had spells with Hull City and Royal Antwerp, had been linked with another move ahead of the new season.
However, with just the likes of Wayne Rooney and Carlos Tevez to choose from up front, Ferguson has no plans to loan out Campbell for a third time.
Staying put
"Fraizer's future is here," said the United boss.
"We do not have any strikers apart from Wayne Rooney and Carlos Tevez and Frazier plays in that area.
"He is a progressive young player. He is quick and determined and he can do very well in the game."
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Strong rumours today about Saha joining us today, watch this space as they say. We have also had a £7m bid turned down for Taiwo. They are holding out for £8m and he wantsa to come to Sunderland by all accounts.
I fully expect to see Evans back before the season starts one way or another
Mid table here we come 8)
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What about defensive positions? I am very concerned about what options Sunderland have defensively!!
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If they get Evans and Taiwo that should pretty much solidify things.
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What about defensive positions? I am very concerned about what options Sunderland have defensively!!
Your not the only one, Shorey mentioned above LB, mentioned Tiawo ages ago but just think it is agent/papertalk. God knows for a CH rather not have anybody than Balde.
Hope it doesn't get to the same stage as last season and buy bodies in for the sake of it, like Cole and Harte. Maybe if Shorey doesn't come off Villa and Portsmouth rumoured he might panic and go and bid for Taiwo, hope so. The midfield is looking strong, but not being able to score and leaking goals isn't a good combination.
Stop winding me up, I am on edge as it is. 1 week left no CH, CF or LB. ;D
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What about Mvoto? Any word on how he's coming along?
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Don't know whats happening with him, he hasn't been in the last couple of reserve matches he might be injured.
Lads that watch the reserves say he can be clumsy at times and gets lost now and again. General feeling is he is OK but probably needs more time. He is a big lad, bigger than Kenwyn but he is not even 20 yet. I would imagine we will know after this season, might be better for the lad to send him out on loan to a CCC or lower team where the games are more competitive and he can learn faster. when he was bought he was never intended to be involved in the 1st team, I doubt even this season.
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Saha knee is "injured" again is the reason why the Hammers can't chase him at the minute, so that one is still there.
Todays striker is Benni McCarthy for £7 Million according to 2 papers.
It is reported Villa are favourites to land Shorey, which is always likely to be the case, its where I would go if I was Shorey.
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I have a great short term solution for the left back position that I'll mention to Roy when next I talk to him.
Just play Kieran Richardson at left back and then Andy Reid at left wing.
There is now more than enough cover at centre mid in the squad.
What you'll think.
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I have a great short term solution for the left back position that I'll mention to Roy when next I talk to him.
Just play Kieran Richardson at left back and then Andy Reid at left wing.
There is now more than enough cover at centre mid in the squad.
What you'll think.
I think Richardson has a lot to prove this year, he has shown nothing apart from Portsmouth game and will be absolutely hopeless, my mother is a better tackler and she has been dead 5 years grhs.
Reid also can't really tackler and hasn't really got the pace for the wing, so I don't think it will work.
Shorey is going to Villa having a medical today, which is no real surprise, the obvious choice for him.
The club don't seem to want to buy foriegn but hopefully this latest setback will help change their minds and go and buy Taiwo or another LB from Europe. The twitch is growing stronger, pressure what pressure.
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I have a great short term solution for the left back position that I'll mention to Roy when next I talk to him.
Just play Kieran Richardson at left back and then Andy Reid at left wing.
There is now more than enough cover at centre mid in the squad.
What you'll think.
I think Richardson has a lot to prove this year, he has shown nothing apart from Portsmouth game and will be absolutely hopeless, my mother is a better tackler and she has been dead 5 years grhs.
Reid also can't really tackler and hasn't really got the pace for the wing, so I don't think it will work.
Shorey is going to Villa having a medical today, which is no real surprise, the obvious choice for him.
The club don't seem to want to buy foriegn but hopefully this latest setback will help change their minds and go and buy Taiwo or another LB from Europe. The twitch is growing stronger, pressure what pressure.
I suspect that barring any further transfers, RK may play Chimbonda there. He's on record as saying that Chimbonda is versatile enough to play anywhere across the back 4. And with Bardsley being fairly solid on the right, I'd say Chimbonda on the left is an option (if he doesn't use him in the middle ;D).
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Glad you sorted that one Mose, Chimbonda either Right, Left or Centre, don't you get spikes in your arse siting on that fence now. ;D
On a serious note need a CH desperately, if we get one I would imagine Collins will be used as a LB again.
Interestly the squad numbers have been anounced today no 3 or 9 but I don't think they mean much apart from RK playing mind games Carlos is 7 Kenwyn 17 and Dwight 19.
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Glad you sorted that one Mose, Chimbonda either Right, Left or Centre, don't you get spikes in your arse siting on that fence now. ;D
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Sit what?? My wife quite likes my ability to hit from all sides!! ;D ;D ;D
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I'm watching the Man City vs AC Milan friendly, and the commentators are making it seem like a Stephen Ireland to Sunderland move is a formality. Apparently there were "developments in the last few hours"...
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I'm watching the Man City vs AC Milan friendly, and the commentators are making it seem like a Stephen Ireland to Sunderland move is a formality. Apparently there were "developments in the last few hours"...
There are a lot of rumours about the owner and his money being tied up and possibly lost in Thailand. It was reported that he had to borrow money to pay players wages and the club are having to sell players Corluka (sp) maybe going to Spuds. It is being rumoured he is being sold from under the manager.
tbh if it is true there are a few players I would try to buy from that team before Ireland, he is a bit of a nutter, goes missing in games far too often and is overpriced ( the price they were asking anyway)
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Another rumour about another midfielder..........geez and ages....
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Gone very quiet, strange as I think this will be a very busy week in general in the transfer market. I think the club are at teh bottom of their lists of possible targets or on new lists. I am hoping we don't end up signing for the sake of it, but it looks like it might be likely.
Man City
To clear up the Man City business it has been rumoured that both Corluka and Ireland had been "sold" from under Mark Hughes. Corluka has had a medical and agreed terms at Spuds and now wants to join them. Ireland had been told not to turn up for the match, but Hughes rang him.
It seems that Hughes has thrown his bricks out of the pram and it has been announced Corluka and Ireland aren't going anywhere. Corluka is not happy and wants to join Spuds and Spuds are saying the paperwork has been done.
It looks a mess and I don't think Hughes will stay at City much longer, something is going on and whether they keep their players for the next 3 weeks remains to be seen.
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Sunderland manager Roy Keane has made a tentative approach for Benfica's Portugal international forward Ariza Makukula. (The Northern Echo, 1025 BST)
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Sunderland have launched a fresh bid for Leighton Baines from Everton for £6m. (Various)
Decent attacking left back with ah wicked free kick.
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All quiet on the western front.
Sunderland had a charity thing today with RK doing questions and answers for an hour.Said quite a few things about current players, mistakes he's made in the transfer market etc.
No secret the club have tried to buy Evans and put in a big bid but Manu turned it down.
The club had a £16.5 Million bid turned down for a striker last week, wouldn't go into names for obvious reasons.
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Anton Ferninand from West Ham - Echo reporting that West Ham have confirmed the bid - means nothing
Benni McCarthy again
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From the Independent:
Sunderland should discover today if Anton Ferdinand is to become their next major signing after the Wearside club and West Ham agreed a fee in the region of £8m for the 23-year-old centre-half over the weekend.
But it is by no means a certainty that London-born Ferdinand will wish to move to the North-East, with Newcastle having failed when expressing interest earlier this summer, and other clubs are believed to be monitoring Ferdinand's situation. He did not play in the Hammers' 2-1 win over Wigan on Saturday.
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Ferdinand is not a bad choice. Still need a striker though. At the moment I'm more worried about that than the defence.
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Keane eager for more signatures
Sunderland manager Roy Keane is hoping to bring in two or three more players before the end of the transfer window on 1 September.
The Black Cats lost 1-0 to Liverpool in their opening Premier League match at the Stadium of Light on Saturday.
Keane told BBC Radio Newcastle: "I do believe we're probably short in two or three positions.
"Over the course of the season you're going to have injuries and suspension, and that's why we need more."
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Todays rumours
Mikael Sivestre from Manu £750,000 - fill the LB spot for a season?
Healy from Fulham swap with Ethutu Dont know which to use ::) :-[ :o >:( :rotfl: :'( ???
Being reported fee agreed for ferninand between £6 - £8 Million depending on what paper you read.
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Silvestre actually prefers to play CH, and he worked well with Rio until Vidic came along. I don't see ManU letting him go for 750,000 though. Even for a season.
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Silvestre actually prefers to play CH, and he worked well with Rio until Vidic came along. I don't see ManU letting him go for 750,000 though. Even for a season.
He's just turned 31 and is in the last year of his contract, he is also on fairly hefty wages so the price is never going to be high, as he will just sit out the last 12 months.
Defence needs strengthening desperately as the midfield will just be pulled back to paper over the cracks.
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Silvestre actually prefers to play CH, and he worked well with Rio until Vidic came along. I don't see ManU letting him go for 750,000 though. Even for a season.
He's just turned 31 and is in the last year of his contract, he is also on fairly hefty wages so the price is never going to be high, as he will just sit out the last 12 months.
Defence needs strengthening desperately as the midfield will just be pulled back to paper over the cracks.
Kev, what happened with the big anouncement that keane had planned for today, forinstance big signing of a certin striker ( RUD) get it. no news on that.
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just cool
Nothing at all, which doesn't surprise me one bit, there are so many things that can make it go wrong. Really NQ should of learnt by now to keep his mouth shut.
With the Healy thing coming up it looks like filling in bodies time, no better than already have and can't cut it in the prem. The price being touted for McCarthy is ridiculous if they pay that, they need locking up for their own good. I am starting to really worry now.
Latest news is there has no fee been agreed for Ferninand.
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just cool
Nothing at all, which doesn't surprise me one bit, there are so many things that can make it go wrong. Really NQ should of learnt by now to keep his mouth shut.
With the Healy thing coming up it looks like filling in bodies time, no better than already have and can't cut it in the prem. The price being touted for McCarthy is ridiculous if they pay that, they need locking up for their own good. I am starting to really worry now.
Latest news is there has no fee been agreed for Ferninand.
Rud would've been a real nice addition to the squad, too bad yuhs guys didn't pull it off as of yet, keep your fingers cross bro. positive.
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It is on the Marsielle site that an agreement in principle has been reached for a season long loan of Cisse.
A good if moody player, hope the details can be ironed out.
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It is on the Marsielle site that an agreement in principle has been reached for a season long loan of Cisse.
A good if moody player, hope the details can be ironed out.
Wow! A KJ - Cisse pairing? I would add "occasionally lazy" to moody, but that would easily be the loan signing of the season. Unless Keane shoves him out wide a'la Benitez...
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7572431.stm
Cisse close to Sunderland switch
Cisse suffered a broken leg twice in three years earlier in his career
Marseille say they have negotiated an "agreement in principle" for former Liverpool striker Djibril Cisse to join Sunderland on a season-long loan.
Black Cats boss Roy Keane has made several summer signings but after his side lost their opening game to Liverpool he said he hoped to add more.
Cisse, 27, joined Liverpool in 2004 but only scored 15 goals in two injury-plagued seasons.
In July 2007 he joined Marseille on a permanent move after a loan spell.
Cisse, who was a member of Liverpool's Champions League-winning team in 2006, broke both legs during his time at Anfield, missing the 2006 World Cup because of the second injury.
But he seems to have made a full recovery, scoring 16 goals for Marseilles last season, and has been keen to return to playing in the Premier League.
Keane has already signed Tottenham trio Teemu Tainio, Steed Malbranque, Pascal Chimbonda and El Hadji Diouf this summer
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Keane needs to start to look outside the UK for some talent now that they will have some money to spend..
Yes, it will always be a challenge to attract good talent to Sunderland but dem nonsensical british buys he make like roy odonovan and andy cole will do nothing to help sunderland.
If RK looking for a scout he should give me a call, I'm available and willing to work for only about 100K a year. I'll be looking at good players who want to move to the prem, good players who aren't happy at their clubs and good players who are going to get relegated.
Here's my list of transfer targets that Keane should try to get that I think could be within their reach:
- Djibril Cisse (marseille) decent shout along with other clubs never worked out in prem for him arguably never got a fair chance at liverpool always being rotated among 4 strikers and in a defensive system. He's pining for a move back to the prem and would be motivated to do well next season
- Taye Taiwo (marseille) as above but prem, didn't really shine against Liverpoolyou don't judge a player on one game against liverpool. excellent left sided defensive player with a booming left foot and might also welcome a move to the prem but might be costly
- Peter Crouch (liverpool)wouldn't work with KJ, not for mewould provide much needed competition in the forward lineup and would compete with KJ rather than work in tandem[/color]
- Andres D'Alessandro (?) zaragoza wanted to be in Spainok scratch
- Jan Koller (?)35 too oldproven quality and would be also a good option coming off the bench and giving competition to KJ. Give him a 2yr contract. Andy Cole was too old too..
- Paul Stalteri (fulham) no thanksbetter than anything else Sunderland have on offer (besides bardsley) in the wing back position and proven prem quality
- Kevin Nolan (bolton)no thankswould solve the gap in centre midfield, at the top of his game he is in the england reckoning
- Matt Taylor (bolton)no thanks, rejected Sunderland for Bolton in Jan, more interest moneywould be a great addition and will be available when bolton get relegated
- Brian McBride (fulham)no thanksmore striker competition with prem experience
- Clint Dempsey (fulham)no thankscould be a very good squad player
- Sean Davis (porstmouth)decent player but don't think sowould be a very good squad player[/color]
- Thomas Gravesen (everton)too old to build onbut experienced and with a good run of games could be very dominant in the middle of the park
- Andy Van Der Meyde (everton) didn't he go "missing" or something doubt RK cup of teaif keane can motivate this guy and get him firing on all cylinders could be the buy of the season. keane needs to earn his pay, a la sam allardyce, and look for bargain buys like this guy that are just looking for an opportunity to resurrect their careers
nice try but I wouldn't be counting on that 100K salary, if I was you ;)
It feels so good when Roy appreciates my hard work. :applause:
whats that about my salary again kev? Cmon admit it fellas.
I was spot on with my transfer predictions for Sunderland. ;D
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Keane needs to start to look outside the UK for some talent now that they will have some money to spend..
Yes, it will always be a challenge to attract good talent to Sunderland but dem nonsensical british buys he make like roy odonovan and andy cole will do nothing to help sunderland.
If RK looking for a scout he should give me a call, I'm available and willing to work for only about 100K a year. I'll be looking at good players who want to move to the prem, good players who aren't happy at their clubs and good players who are going to get relegated.
Here's my list of transfer targets that Keane should try to get that I think could be within their reach:
- Djibril Cisse (marseille) decent shout along with other clubs never worked out in prem for him arguably never got a fair chance at liverpool always being rotated among 4 strikers and in a defensive system. He's pining for a move back to the prem and would be motivated to do well next season
- Taye Taiwo (marseille) as above but prem, didn't really shine against Liverpoolyou don't judge a player on one game against liverpool. excellent left sided defensive player with a booming left foot and might also welcome a move to the prem but might be costly
- Peter Crouch (liverpool)wouldn't work with KJ, not for mewould provide much needed competition in the forward lineup and would compete with KJ rather than work in tandem[/color]
- Andres D'Alessandro (?) zaragoza wanted to be in Spainok scratch
- Jan Koller (?)35 too oldproven quality and would be also a good option coming off the bench and giving competition to KJ. Give him a 2yr contract. Andy Cole was too old too..
- Paul Stalteri (fulham) no thanksbetter than anything else Sunderland have on offer (besides bardsley) in the wing back position and proven prem quality
- Kevin Nolan (bolton)no thankswould solve the gap in centre midfield, at the top of his game he is in the england reckoning
- Matt Taylor (bolton)no thanks, rejected Sunderland for Bolton in Jan, more interest moneywould be a great addition and will be available when bolton get relegated
- Brian McBride (fulham)no thanksmore striker competition with prem experience
- Clint Dempsey (fulham)no thankscould be a very good squad player
- Sean Davis (porstmouth)decent player but don't think sowould be a very good squad player[/color]
- Thomas Gravesen (everton)too old to build onbut experienced and with a good run of games could be very dominant in the middle of the park
- Andy Van Der Meyde (everton) didn't he go "missing" or something doubt RK cup of teaif keane can motivate this guy and get him firing on all cylinders could be the buy of the season. keane needs to earn his pay, a la sam allardyce, and look for bargain buys like this guy that are just looking for an opportunity to resurrect their careers
nice try but I wouldn't be counting on that 100K salary, if I was you ;)
It feels so good when Roy appreciates my hard work. :applause:
whats that about my salary again kev? Cmon admit it fellas.
I was spot on with my transfer predictions for Sunderland. ;D
Hasn't been confirmed yet but you are owed one.
BTW I don't think we have bid or are in for Taiwo - just agent / paper talk - but I wish it wasn't.
The interview with the president of marsielle is asying he wanted to come back to England, especially as he is not an automatic 1st choice for marsielle and play.
Man City were after him but Marsielle wouldn't let him go there, I don't know if this is because of reported money problems at City and this will be a paid for loan.
The lad is moody, but this tends to be when he is not playing week in week out, he is a good player. His broken leg at Liverpool was horrendous. He does bring some pace, movement, skill and even heading ability up front something we were desperately lacking on Saturday. Lets hope whatever needs to be ironed out can be done quickly and its all sorted. Be interesting when Kenwyns back as he will have someone decent to learn from / help him.
(before anyone starts I don't mean that in a nasty way either)
This made me chuckle from the smb as a chant for him - re rods in his legs
He's quick, he's tricky
With legs like metal micky
Djibril Cisse! Djibril Cisse!
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Cisse is a massive signing! To get him on loan is even better. Him and Jones will make a top strike force.
Credit to Keane for the signings.
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ah wonder wah dis mean for jones.
MARSEILLE, France (AFP) - Marseille striker Djibril Cisse is to be loaned to English Premier League side Sunderland, the French club said on Wednesday.
Marseille chairman Pape Diouf said both clubs had reached an "agreement in principle" for the loan of the international until the end of the season.
"Several details remain to be sorted out to make the loan official," added Diouf.
Former Liverpool player Cisse, 27, had said earlier in the summer he was looking for a return to the English Premier League, to prove he is still a big-game player.
Cisse seemed to have come to an agreement with the club's management to stay and fight for a place in the side, but had a change of heart when the French football season began.
"From the first match, Djibril didn't feel that his place was assured and it affected him. At that moment the idea of leaving came back to him," Diouf told the club's website on Wednesday.
"I asked him to be patient, but in the last match against Auxerre (last weekend, where he was subbed) he had made his mind up that he would not be staying. I didn't want to go against his wishes."
Cisse moved to Anfield in 2004 - winning a Champions League medal with Liverpool a season later - but failed to make an impression at the club between July 2004 and June 2006, scoring 15 times in two injury-plagued seasons.
But a resurgence at Marseille, which saw him netting 16 times last season, has given him the confidence to fancy a return to England and prove his detractors wrong.
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nice signing ...didnt realise cisse only 27. 2 pacy strikers, they can do some damage with this side
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ah wonder wah dis mean for jones.
Lets not forget its a loan with view to permanent deal.
my opinion not a lot really, it means when Kenwyn is fit we have 2 decent strikers to play against some teams and 1 against the stronger teams. Kenwyn will need to change his game to match a new team, with balls in front of him facing the goal or coming from the sides rather than being pumped upto him with his back to goal.
Kenwyn played poorly for the last part of the season, since the Liverpool game, he looked jaded and tired, the new team should help him save energy through the game and a partner will also help, he looked in desperate need of both the back end of last season.
tbh Its a win win situation for Kenwyn, its just unfortunate he is injured at the minute.
Money - no doubt the new players are being brought in on more money, I would be astonished if the club didn't put / offer Kenwyn on a new deal on higher money when he returns.
Improvement - Better players gives him a chance to improve himself or increase his value either meaning he will get chased by a "big" club or as above Sunderland will improve his money. If he improves and is sold the club will get a lot of money for him.
Competition - should be good for him and someone to learn off.
The only downside I see from Kenwyns perspective is if he can't cope with the change in the team as a whole rather than any competition from Cisse.
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this is a big signing for sunderland!!! cant wait for KJ to return!! :beermug:
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this is one ah d positive i seeing from KJ's injury. sunderland are being forced to strengthen their striking department. when he returns, God willing, it should hopefully be less work and more goals
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Now all they need is a defender if they get Ferdinand I think they will be set for the season
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All of a sudden Sunderland looking like a different team.
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Now all they need is a defender if they get Ferdinand I think they will be set for the season
which ferdinand? i hope you aint talking bout that goat from West Ham?? :beermug:
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They were interviewing the N.Ireland manager on skysports and the skysports reporter said David Healey is going to join Sunderland tomorrow...and the NI Manager said yea it will be good for David to get games under his belt as he was riding pine at Fulham
Sunderland Strikeforce:
K.Jones
D.Cisse
D.Healey
EH.Diouf
M.Chopra(prob leaving)
A.Stokes
D.Murphy
hmmm good strikeforce... they need to buy a LB CB and a CM
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Todays rumours
Healy again - as above - I just don't understand this one at all
Carton Cole - West Him
Leighton Baines - again.
The Cisse one hasn't been confirmed as yet.
RK said yesterday that the club had reached agreements with other clubs for 4 players, but not as yet with the players themselves. He is quoted this morning as saying another one of those will be a loan deal and hinting that it is one the press have yet to get wind of. If he gets those in its shopping finished, but it never seems to be shopping finished with RK.
At a guess the 4 agreed deals were / are
Ferninand
Cisse
Healy?
Another - probably LB which could be Baines
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Now all they need is a defender if they get Ferdinand I think they will be set for the season
which ferdinand? i hope you aint talking bout that goat from West Ham?? :beermug:
He's not his brother but he has ability some good coaching could fix that look what beenie do to cyd gray cmon now...he have the tools
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Sky Sports News is saying that Cisse AND Healy are undergoing medicals right now.... :beermug:
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The lad is moody, but this tends to be when he is not playing week in week out, he is a good player. His broken leg at Liverpool was horrendous. He does bring some pace, movement, skill[/b] and even heading ability up front something we were desperately lacking on Saturday.
Lol. 3 out of 4 aint bad.
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Allyuh watch the ride..
If they get Cisse and Healey, then Diouf might become a right wing option.
More bench for Carlos.
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Allyuh watch the ride..
If they get Cisse and Healey, then Diouf might become a right wing option.
More bench for Carlos.
is the same thing i thinkin............what that means is that carlos in tring have to be realll competitive
the good thing is that premiership have 7 players on the bench now so that increase the chances of him makin the squad
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Allyuh watch the ride..
If they get Cisse and Healey, then Diouf might become a right wing option.
Just when i thought Keane improved in the transfer market.......
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Todays rumours
Healy again - as above - I just don't understand this one at all
Carton Cole - West Him
Leighton Baines - again.
The Cisse one hasn't been confirmed as yet.
RK said yesterday that the club had reached agreements with other clubs for 4 players, but not as yet with the players themselves. He is quoted this morning as saying another one of those will be a loan deal and hinting that it is one the press have yet to get wind of. If he gets those in its shopping finished, but it never seems to be shopping finished with RK.
At a guess the 4 agreed deals were / are
Ferninand
Cisse
Healy?
Another - probably LB which could be Baines
Baines is class. If Sun'land get him then watch out
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Allyuh watch the ride..
If they get Cisse and Healey, then Diouf might become a right wing option.
Just when i thought Keane improved in the transfer market.......
I agree can't make sense of it myself.
The rumour is Chopra and Stokes maybe on their way out either sold or loan.
Waghorn who is the youngster has done his knee so is out for 3 months, Keane said that previous to that he was after 3 and then it was 4 with Waghorns injury.
I can see the logic if indeed Chopra and Stokes disapear but still think it is a very bad transfer who is no better ( arguably worse) than what we have and will hardly play once RK sees him in a couple of games. Pointless and poor.
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LONDON (AFP) - Fulham manager Roy Hodgson has revealed Northern Ireland striker David Healy is set to have a medical at Sunderland on Thursday ahead of his proposed move to the Stadium of Light.
Hodgson has agreed to sell Healy to Roy Keane's side after the former Manchester United trainee failed to make an impact at Craven Cottage last season following his 1.5 million pounds (1.8 million euros) move from Leeds.
"If David has been spotted at Sunderland he didn't wear that disguise I told him to!" Hodgson said.
"It's no secret that Sunderland admire David and have talked about a transfer. He's up there for a medical.
"We'll see what happens now but it's certainly a possibility the transfer could go through."
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He's Irish = He's a Keane transfer target.
At least he's better than O'Donovan.
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=15486
Sunderland complete Cisse signing
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By Nick Alexander
Sunderland have signed French international striker Djibril Cisse from Marseille.
The 27-year-old former Liverpool player has joined the Black Cats on a season-long loan deal with a view to a permanent move.
He becomes Sunderland's fifth major summer arrival.
Boss Roy Keane said: "This signing shows our ambitions and intentions. We're delighted with the new faces we've brought in, we've been working hard all summer to significantly improve the squad.
"The signing of Djibril shows how far this club has moved on since the end of last season. His experience will bring a lot to the squad and he will hopefully add some goals to the side. He is known for scoring them as well as creating them."
Cisse, who could make his debut at Tottenham on Saturday, said: "I'm really pleased to join a good club with good players.
"Sunderland is a club I think is going to achieve things, they have big ambitions, that's why I chose to come here. I liked what the club had to say to me."
Cisse, who has a European Cup winner's medal on his CV, has spent the last two seasons with Marseille, who finished third in the French top flight last season.
He scored 21 goals in 47 matches in all competitions last term after making a permanent move to Marseille from Liverpool last summer. He had spent the 2006-07 season on loan with the French club, scoring 15 goals in 27 league and cup games.
Cisse cost Liverpool £14m in July 2004 after enjoying a prolific four years with Auxerre where he was a team-mate of Teemu Tainio. Cisse scored 24 goals in 78 games for the Reds in two seasons at Anfield.
He made his international debut aged 21 against Belgium in 2002 and has played 37 games for France, scoring nine goals.
Keane had already impressed Sunderland fans this summer by signing four established Premier League players, with Pascal Chimbonda, Tainio, El-Hadji Diouf and Steed Malbranque arriving before Cisse.
Healy has signed aswell Officially :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=15487
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Why are you so down about Healy signing again? He seems like a quality forward to have.
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Why are you so down about Healy signing again? He seems like a quality forward to have.
He is a forward I would of expected the club to sign 18 months 2 years ago. He has a great international scoring rate a piss poor 1 in 4 scoring rate at club level.
He is 29 never has produced it and never will, he is on a 3 year contract, he will hardly play and will be extremely hard to shift. He cost about £1.5 million or so but its money you might as well took in the back garden and set fire to. I suppose I am being over critical but I just can't see any sense in it at all, if I could see a couple of redeeming features I normally shrug my shoulders and say to myself wouldn't of been my choice, but with him I all I see is waste.
As with anything else its only my opinion and he could prove me wrong but I doubt it, with a bit of luck I wont have to watch him much until he fades quietly and expensively into the background.
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CISSE!!!!! best deal of the season !! now ah could watch sunlun comfortable without getting the jitters !!
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I think he could be a good signing... But the best so far for Sunderland in my books is Malbranque
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allyuh should sign klivert and reyes too
sunderland iz one shyt side :rotfl:
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allyuh should sign klivert and reyes too
sunderland iz one shyt side :rotfl:
That's your ugly opinion buddy !!
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kenwyne have some competition
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allyuh should sign klivert and reyes too
sunderland iz one shyt side :rotfl:
too much dope or not enough, can't decide which
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allyuh should sign klivert and reyes too
sunderland iz one shyt side :rotfl:
too much dope or not enough, can't decide which
again? would we even care bout this side if 3 nationals wasnt on it?
if the side is shit the side is shit plain talk
dat doh mean ah aint want dem win as long as it dont affect meh fantasy team :beermug:
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allyuh should sign klivert and reyes too
sunderland iz one shyt side :rotfl:
That's your ugly opinion buddy !!
yuh sound like ah cheerleader from bring it on. so what you saying is that they iz ah good side.
allyuh does just go with the flow two years ago the whole board was loving sydney f.c. now where allyuh. where the port vale supporters??? as soon as de trini's leave this side thats it for sunderland
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allyuh should sign klivert and reyes too
sunderland iz one shyt side :rotfl:
too much dope or not enough, can't decide which
again? would we even care bout this side if 3 nationals wasnt on it?
if the side is shit the side is shit plain talk
dat doh mean ah aint want dem win as long as it dont affect meh fantasy team :beermug:
Aye I would I am a Sunderland supporter not a trini, so I am the opposite tbf.
I thought everybody knew that.
Trust me I have seen a lot of shit in my time and this team is like a rose garden relatively speaking.
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yea man everybody no u a sunderland guy
who we was callin out is the sunderland waggonist clip that claim they real into the side
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yea man everybody no u a sunderland guy
who we was callin out is the sunderland waggonist clip that claim they real into the side
we into side because they buy trinis.
what next captain obvious?
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omar we not disputin the fact that the reason we inot a side is cuz it have trinis
we disputing the fact that the side is genuinly shit
much like boton, fulham and middlesbrough....a prem make up numbers team
and if roy sell all 3 to cork city in ireland we go real back irsh football albeut the league is shit
SHOTTA
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omar we not disputin the fact that the reason we inot a side is cuz it have trinis
we disputing the fact that the side is genuinly shit
much like boton, fulham and middlesbrough....a prem make up numbers team
and if roy sell all 3 to cork city in ireland we go real back irsh football albeut the league is shit
SHOTTA
I would agree with you in the sense of what you mean but not perhaps the description ;D
tbf we have come a very long way in the last 2 years.
The difference is we spent a lot of money to be "shit" and will continue to spend a lot of money trying not to be "shit". Whereas the others will probably be happy to stay as they are.
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allyuh should sign klivert and reyes too
sunderland iz one shyt side :rotfl:
That's your ugly opinion buddy !!
yuh sound like ah cheerleader from bring it on. so what you saying is that they iz ah good side.
allyuh does just go with the flow two years ago the whole board was loving sydney f.c. now where allyuh. where the port vale supporters??? as soon as de trini's leave this side thats it for sunderland
As with every thing else !! so what's your point. the thing is , you is ah mean spirited dude, and there was no apparent reason for calling sunderland ah shyt team, that was oh so unnecessary.
i would say the same about our national team !! Yes ! BC most of our players cant even get ah sweat in league one, and Kenwyne and carlos aren't necessarily mashing up the prem neither, so i'll watch how i'm pelting those stones if i was you guy.
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omar we not disputin the fact that the reason we inot a side is cuz it have trinis
we disputing the fact that the side is genuinly shit
much like boton, fulham and middlesbrough....a prem make up numbers team
and if roy sell all 3 to cork city in ireland we go real back irsh football albeut the league is shit
SHOTTA
Allyuh does just post without thinking or what !! again what's your point !! yes we love sunderland BC of carlos dwight and kenwyne, but that don't mean we can't learn to love the team after supporting them for 2 yrs .
If bolton, borough, and fullham is shyte teams and non of our players with the exception of the sunlun trio can't even get ah trial with them , let alone secure ah contract with these so called " make up numbers teams " then our players must be in real bad fackin shape.
allyuh need to think before posting. let meh hear the rebuttal.
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allyuh should sign klivert and reyes too
sunderland iz one shyt side :rotfl:
That's your ugly opinion buddy !!
yuh sound like ah cheerleader from bring it on. so what you saying is that they iz ah good side.
allyuh does just go with the flow two years ago the whole board was loving sydney f.c. now where allyuh. where the port vale supporters??? as soon as de trini's leave this side thats it for sunderland
As with every thing else !! so what's your point. the thing is , you is ah mean spirited dude, and there was no apparent reason for calling sunderland ah shyt team, that was oh so unnecessary.
i would say the same about our national team !! Yes ! BC most of our players cant even get ah sweat in league one, and Kenwyne and carlos aren't necessarily mashing up the prem neither, so i'll watch how i'm pelting those stones if i was you guy.
my personal hate for sunderland came when they played arsenal last year and everybody was sayin arsenal lucky to beat them. and if you think most of our players cant sweat in league one you dont know trini football. they may not get the chances but i know a good bit who could hold their own in league one. and yes i am a mean spirited dude...............
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allyuh should sign klivert and reyes too
sunderland iz one shyt side :rotfl:
That's your ugly opinion buddy !!
yuh sound like ah cheerleader from bring it on. so what you saying is that they iz ah good side.
allyuh does just go with the flow two years ago the whole board was loving sydney f.c. now where allyuh. where the port vale supporters??? as soon as de trini's leave this side thats it for sunderland
As with every thing else !! so what's your point. the thing is , you is ah mean spirited dude, and there was no apparent reason for calling sunderland ah shyt team, that was oh so unnecessary.
i would say the same about our national team !! Yes ! BC most of our players cant even get ah sweat in league one, and Kenwyne and carlos aren't necessarily mashing up the prem neither, so i'll watch how i'm pelting those stones if i was you guy.
my personal hate for sunderland came when they played arsenal last year and everybody was sayin arsenal lucky to beat them.
Out of curiosity, why wud that make u hate Sunderland?
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allyuh should sign klivert and reyes too
sunderland iz one shyt side :rotfl:
That's your ugly opinion buddy !!
yuh sound like ah cheerleader from bring it on. so what you saying is that they iz ah good side.
allyuh does just go with the flow two years ago the whole board was loving sydney f.c. now where allyuh. where the port vale supporters??? as soon as de trini's leave this side thats it for sunderland
As with every thing else !! so what's your point. the thing is , you is ah mean spirited dude, and there was no apparent reason for calling sunderland ah shyt team, that was oh so unnecessary.
i would say the same about our national team !! Yes ! BC most of our players cant even get ah sweat in league one, and Kenwyne and carlos aren't necessarily mashing up the prem neither, so i'll watch how i'm pelting those stones if i was you guy.
my personal hate for sunderland came when they played arsenal last year and everybody was sayin arsenal lucky to beat them.
Out of curiosity, why wud that make u hate Sunderland?
long story. dont feel like torkin bout this team anymore. move on with your team
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allyuh should sign klivert and reyes too
sunderland iz one shyt side :rotfl:
That's your ugly opinion buddy !!
yuh sound like ah cheerleader from bring it on. so what you saying is that they iz ah good side.
allyuh does just go with the flow two years ago the whole board was loving sydney f.c. now where allyuh. where the port vale supporters??? as soon as de trini's leave this side thats it for sunderland
As with every thing else !! so what's your point. the thing is , you is ah mean spirited dude, and there was no apparent reason for calling sunderland ah shyt team, that was oh so unnecessary.
i would say the same about our national team !! Yes ! BC most of our players cant even get ah sweat in league one, and Kenwyne and carlos aren't necessarily mashing up the prem neither, so i'll watch how i'm pelting those stones if i was you guy.
my personal hate for sunderland came when they played arsenal last year and everybody was sayin arsenal lucky to beat them. and if you think most of our players cant sweat in league one you dont know trini football. they may not get the chances but i know a good bit who could hold their own in league one. and yes i am a mean spirited dude...............
In that game it was the case, so don't see your point.
Boro actually beat Arsenal so does that make Arsenal shit aswell.
Not being funny here but I understand that everybody changes teams as the players move around, because thats the way it is. The FA are changing the entry rules for foriegn players, they can do nothing about European Union players but I suspect they will make it a lot harder for non european players to gain entry as the number of foriegn players are being used as an excuse for the failures of the England team. So I would suspect less T&T players will gain entry into the English game and are more likely to end up in other European countries after the rule changes.
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The BBC are reporting that Curbishley has told them that West Ham have accepted a bid for Anton Ferninand.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/7580244.stm
West Ham accept Ferdinand offer
West Ham manager Alan Curbishley says the club have accepted a bid from Sunderland for Anton Ferdinand.
The 23-year-old defender is mulling over Sunderland's offer, with the transfer fee reportedly as much as £8m.
Curbishley said: "The board have accepted the bid - he's not renegotiated his contract - and the decision has been taken out of my ands.
"I don't know where Anton is in terms of signing for Sunderland but once the club accept the bid it moves on."
Ferdinand, the younger brother of Manchester United star Rio, signed a three-year contract extension in July 2005 and his current deal is due to expire in 2010.
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sunderland rel buying men
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he n worth 8 million . 6 at best
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From what I've seen this season and pre-season, Nosworthy and Collins make a decent partnership. It'll be interesting to see which one gets switched out. I know Sunderland fans are eager to replace Collins, but... I dunno... I kinda like him. Maybe Keane puts Collins back at LB. But then what happens to Bardsley/Chimbonda?
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From what I've seen this season and pre-season, Nosworthy and Collins make a decent partnership. It'll be interesting to see which one gets switched out. I know Sunderland fans are eager to replace Collins, but... I dunno... I kinda like him. Maybe Keane puts Collins back at LB. But then what happens to Bardsley/Chimbonda?
Collins has done OK at LB but we need a CH, so Collins will be the one to go out.
We are also supposedly getting another loan player which from what has been said maybe a LB as that is the other position RK wants. Which would leave Collins as back up either LB or CH.
Chimbonda is a better player than Bardsley but Bardsley is more committed defender and will likely play right back when we need more defence and Chimbonda against weaker teams.
When we signed Chimbonda I called into question his attitude and he tends to let his mouth run, he has had fairly soft managers upto now and won't get away with that with RK. Interestly he wasn't even on the bench yesterday so maybe he spoke out of turn already.
I am just glad there is only 1 week left and RK has said 2 more and that's it, but if only I believed him, I think it might well be a case of who comes available this next week.
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Hammers board accept Sunderland's Ferdinand offer
Sky Sports
West Ham manager Alan Curbishley has confirmed Sunderland's bid for Anton Ferdinand has been accepted by the club's board.
Ferdinand, who was absent from West Ham's 3-0 defeat to Manchester City on Sunday, is currently on the sidelines recovering from a hamstring injury.
Black Cats boss Roy Keane stated he was close to adding two new players to his squad in the next week, one of them is believed to be West Ham stopper Ferdinand.
Curbishley has now stated that with Ferdinand reluctant to renegotiate terms on a new deal the board have decided it is in the club's best interests if the 23-year-old departs.
Bid accepted
"The board have accepted the bid," Curbishley told the BBC on the deal, which is believed to be in the £8million region.
"Anton has not renegotiated his contract, and the decision was taken out of my hands.
"I don't know where Anton is in terms of signing for Sunderland but once the club accept the bid, it moves on."
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Was never really impressed by Anton Ferdinand.
He strikes me as too slow and also doesn't read the game that well. His best period in West Ham's defence coincided with a great run of form by his partner Danny Gabbidon which imo made him look better than he really was.
In other developments:
However, reports from Spain now suggest that Aston Villa, Everton and Sunderland are all keen to sign Nikola Zigic on a season-long loan.
Sunderland are keen to sign Spain left-back Mariano Pernia from Atletico Madrid. The club may be forced to sell because of cash problems. (Daily Mirror)
Sunderland don't need to buy another striker but this fella is real promise.. Basically a young version of Jan Koller but they don't need him when they already have target man forwards in Kenwyne and Cisse anyway.
Pernia is a very good left back and was Spain first choice not too long ago. Very good on the ball, attacking and has a wicked free kick. He would be a good buy
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Sunderland knows that the second year is the hardest so they looking to add players to the squad, so far all the players they add is top class.
Chimbonda, malbranque, Diouff will all make them better.
more problems for the Trinis however, edwards, jones, Yorke getting much less burn than last year, from the time you play shit you getting bench and is worries to get back your place.
at least they will be well rested for world cup qualifiers.
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Well the Chimbonda thing has been explained, apparently turned up late for a team "walk" on Saturday morning and hence ended up watching the game from the stands. Lateness is one of RK pet hates and he should of knew better.
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Keane taking shape as PL manager
by Jorge Moran, FoxSoccer.com
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8487876/Keane-taking-shape-as-PL-manager
Whether you love him, hate him, respect him or simply fear him, it must be acknowledged that Roy Keane is shaping up to be quite a shrewd Premier League manager.
Sunderland's season-long loan capture of French international Djibril Cisse last week is at once proof of Keane's lofty managerial ambitions, and the respect that he is garnering among the world's best footballers.
Cisse's impact was immediate. Only 18 minutes after coming on as a substitute to make his Black Cats debut at Tottenham, the striker with the oft-wild and colorful hairdos struck the header that earned the visitors their first league win at White Hart Lane in 30 years.
For a team that only twice tasted victory away from home last season, and lost 11 of its 21 league defeats by a one-goal margin, the presence of a game-winning, predatory forward like Cisse is monumental. A goal-scorer of the Frenchman's caliber, as Keane knows, can be the difference between finishing three points from the drop zone and cracking the top ten.
But prolific world-class players like Cisse don't end up in distinctly un-touristy places like Sunderland for merely monetary reasons. After all, it was only a year ago that Keane made typically controversial remarks about a player who turned down a move to the Stadium of Light for non-footballing issues.
"If a player doesn't want to come to Sunderland, then all well and good. But if he decides he doesn't want to come because his wife wants to go shopping in London, then it's a sad state of affairs," declared the former Manchester United midfielder at the time.
Keano's no-nonsense and direct approach to management and his famously honest demeanor, surely went a long way to securing not only Cisse's transfer this summer, but that of several established Premier League stars as well.
El-Hadji Diouf, the feisty but talented winger/withdrawn forward and Cisse's former teammate at Anfield, also bought into Keane's blunt charisma this off-season. As did the Tottenham trio of Steed Malbranque, Teemu Tainio, and Pascal Chimbonda.
Last season, the Irishman's fondness for acquiring bona fide Premiership veterans and former teammates such as Andy Cole, Dwight Yorke, and Ian Harte, along with Manchester United youngsters Keiran Richardson, Phil Bardsley, and Jonny Evans, suggested a desire for a sense of familiarity and experience that could help newly-promoted Sunderland maintain its top-flight status. The goal to remain in England's upper tier was accomplished, though only just.
Keane's signings this summer, who are arguably of a much higher quality, reflect an aggressive intent to challenge for a place in European competitions and make a run at the Carling or FA Cup. And his foraging into the transfer market is not done.
Although still in the hunt for a left-back, Sunday it emerged that Sunderland had agreed a fee for West Ham center-half Anton Ferdinand, brother of Keane's old United teammate Rio. The addition of the younger Ferdinand would certainly bolster any chances the Black Cats have of competing against the 'Big Four', off whom they took not a single point in 2007-2008.
This season, his third at the helm of the club from the north east, Roy Keane will continue to polish his trade as a manager. Just how much time he will have to do so, however, remains to be seen.
The Drumaville Consortium, which owns Sunderland AFC, doled out over $80 million in transfer fees in 2007-2008. But a good amount of the 13 players brought in last season simply didn't amount to much. The picks of the bunch were striker Kenwyne Jones, midfielder Andy Reid and defender Bardsley, with goalkeeper Craig Gordon not far behind.
If fees reported in the press are to be believed, a deal for Ferdinand would put Sunderland's summer spending somewhere between $44 and $53 million.
Keane's relationship with club chairman and former Ireland teammate Niall Quinn has been a good one. There have been no reports of rifts or animosity. On the contrary, there is a feeling that everyone involved with the team is pushing in the same direction — a novel idea in football nowadays.
Regardless of his name and standing in world football, that type of investment means that results will be demanded of Keane before too long. This is the season where he must deliver.
But Keano's managerial pedigree is much too good for him not to succeed. During his playing career, he enjoyed the rare luxury of being coached almost exclusively by legends of the game. The late Brian Clough managed him at Nottingham Forest, Sir Alex Ferguson at the Red Devils and even Gordon Strachan in his brief spell with Celtic.
His quietly menacing touchline stare already rivals that of Fergie. His presence during a press conference is unthreatening, yet commanding. And he hasn't been shy about challenging his old boss. Before the start of the season, he tipped Chelsea to win the league.
A run at the top six this season is (certainly) too soon for Sunderland, but a positive Cup campaign, like Portsmouth and Tottenham last term, is a definite possibility for Keano and his men.
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Regardless of his name and standing in world football, that type of investment means that results will be demanded of Keane before too long. This is the season where he must deliver.
What they don't seem to appreciate is that delivering this season is about 10th - 12th with no fear of relegation. They don't seem to understand the "Irish Connection" very well. RK is in his last year of his contract. Even if we had of been relegated last season RK would not of been sacked.
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Ferninand is having a medical today
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Taken from http://eurosport.yahoo.com/football/premier-league/transfers.html
Sunderland
* In (signed): David Healy (Fulham); Djibril Cisse (Marseille - loan); Steed Malbranque, Teemu Tainio, Pascal Chimbonda (all Tottenham, undisclosed); El-Hadji Diouf (Bolton); Nick Colgan (free agent); David Meyler (Cork City)
* In (rumours): Mariano Pernia (Atletico Madrid); Anton Ferdinand (West Ham); Benni McCarthy (Blackburn); Louis Saha, Dorin Goian (Steaua Bucharest); David Edwards (Wolves); Aiden McGeady (Celtic); Stephen Hunt, Kevin Doyle (both Reading)
* Out (signed): Ian Harte, Stanislav Varga, Stephen Wright (released); Andy Cole (Nottingham Forest, free); Greg Halford (Sheffield United, loan); Ross Wallace (Preston, loan); Roy O'Donovan (Dundee United, loan)
* Out (rumours): Dickson Etuhu (Fulham); Anthony Stokes (Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds, loan)
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Depending on the paper you read either £6/7/8 Million.
One left which the club did say would be another loan deal but don't seem that confident, by the end of the week, which probably means Monday.
http://www.safc.com/index.php?page_id=15525
Sunderland complete Ferdinand signing
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By Nick Alexander
Sunderland have completed the signing of West Ham defender Anton Ferdinand for an undisclosed fee.
The England U21 centre-back agreed a four-year deal at the Stadium of Light today, becoming the club's ninth signing of the summer.
Roy Keane said: "We needed to strengthen our defence and Anton is a great signing. He's still young but he has over 160 games under his belt so he has experience, he's at a good age.
"He'll bring quality and competition to the squad which is what we want, hopefully we can take him to another level. He has come through the ranks at West Ham and maybe just needs a change."
Ferdinand, 23, added: "It was hard leaving West Ham because I have been there for 16 years but after meeting Roy Keane I knew it was time for a change.
"This is a great challenge for me and I feel it is an exciting time at Sunderland. I think the move will do me good and bring the best out of me, I can't wait to get going."
Ferdinand follows Teemu Tainio, Pascal Chimbonda, Steed Malbranque, Nick Colgan, David Meyler, El-Hadji Diouf, David Healy and Djibril Cisse to the Stadium of Light this summer.
And Keane is targeting one more player - possibly a left-back - before the transfer window closes next week.
"I have one more player in mind and then that is the end of it for a few months at least," he said.
Ferdinand, who is recovering from a hamstring strain, is likely to be available for the game at Wigan on September 13.
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sunderland have some good signings this season
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d man buy a whole startin 11?
so who allyuh sayin goodbye to cuz da traing ground lookin full
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Ethutu has been sold to Fulham £3 Million ish if you believe the papers.
No real news on the LB yet.
McShane has been loaned to Hull for the season
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The difference between this and last season's transfers is like night and day.
Much better by Sunderland.
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McCartney 'set to join Sunderland'
Setanta Sports
West Ham defender George McCartney is having a medical at Sunderland, according to reports.
Roy Keane has been eager to strengthen at left back throughout the summer and it now looks as though he could complete a deal to bring McCartney back to the Stadium of Light.
Keane had earlier indicated that the club could be set to make a last-minute signing and it appears the 27-year-old Northern Ireland international will join before the transfer window closes.
McCartney is expected to cost around £5.5 million.
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wow how much money them spend this summer?
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Still no official confirmation of McCartney rumoured to be £4.5 Million
Higginbottom has been sold back to Stoke rumoured to be £2.5 Million
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http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=15580
McCartney re-signs for Sunderland
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Sunderland have signed George McCartney from West Ham - two years after he left the Stadium of Light to join the Hammers.
McCartney completed a five-year contract with the Black Cats today after the two clubs agreed an undisclosed fee for the left-back.
It ends Roy Keane's summer-long search for a left-sided full-back. McCartney is Sunderland's 10th signing since the end of last season.
The 27-year-old follows Teemu Tainio, Pascal Chimbonda, Steed Malbranque, Nick Colgan, David Meyler, El-Hadji Diouf, David Healy, Djibril Cisse and Anton Ferdinand to the Stadium of Light.
Keane said: "It's great to be able to bring George back to Sunderland. I've made no secret of the positions I've been looking to strengthen and a left-back was one of my priorities, I'm delighted.
"George's experience will prove invaluable and he shouldn't take long to settle in as he knows a lot of the lads already and he obviously knows the club inside-out.
"I'm happy with my squad now. We have strength in depth and healthy competition for places in all areas. I'm looking forward to getting on with the season."
McCartney added: "It's a great move for me and it's great to be back at Sunderland. The club has moved on over the last two years and I think there are exciting times ahead.
"The fans were always good to me and I hope that will continue and that we can have a good season.
"The club has changed a lot since I left but there are still a few familiar faces around, I can't wait to get going."
McCartney, who was Sunderland's player of the year in the 2004-05 season, joined West Ham two years ago.
The Northern Ireland international is a product of Sunderland's academy and made his first-team debut in a 3-0 League Cup win against Luton in September 2000.
He made 157 league and cup appearances for the Wearsiders before joining West Ham in August 2006.
McCartney was an ever-present for the Hammers last season and finished the campaign as runner-up to Robert Green in the Hammer of the Year poll.
He has been capped by Northern Ireland 25 times and joins his international team-mate David Healy at Sunderland.
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Well thank god thats over for 4 months anyway.
Scores on the doors are.
Outs
Cole - released
Harte - released
Varga - released
Wright - released
Higginbottom - Stoke
Ethutu - Fulham
Loans - OUT
Halford
McShane
O'Donovan
Wallace
Ins
Colgan
Meyler
Malbranque
Tainio
Chimbonda
Ferninand
McCartney
Diouf
Healy
Loan - IN
Cisse
I reckon nett spend was about £25 Million
Still a CH short and a good Defensive Central Midfielder short imho.
The team has a more premiership look about it, but depends on the formation and how many mistakes are made in the coaching.(still not entirely happy on that side) Should be OK if they settle quickly.
Put it into perspective a lot of clubs have spent 2/3rd's of that amount on 1 player.
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Hey Kev, what ever happened to the swedish striker ( one goal wonder ) Prica . positive.
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Hey Kev, what ever happened to the swedish striker ( one goal wonder ) Prica . positive.
He in de reserves now. Apparently he's shit or Keane doh like his head or both.
For a man who score so many goals in Denmark and make the Swedish team, he can't be that bad. Maybe he just not built for the English game.
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just out of curiosity, how many current players were on the team when the promotion was achieved, and how many of them were there at the beginning of the season (i.e) didn't come in in January 07?
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JUST COOL - He has been told to find a new club, was rumoured he was off back to Scandanivia on loan, but obviously feel through. Unless there is a severe injury crisis you won't see him again. Doesn't suit the prem, far too quick for him. Although just to show how stats can lie, he will be Sunderlands record scorer on minutes / goals.
MIDNIGHT - Not many
Whitehead - can't see him lasting more than this season - possibly January - limted appearances
Yorke - last season - don't think he will play much this season
Leadbetter - was a junior - limited 1st team opps this season
Collins - see Whitehead
Miller - see Whitehead
There are a few others in the squad running down their contracts, but most if not all of the promotion team will be gone / out of the 1st team by next season. As will happen with most of the survival team bar 3/4 exceptions.
The current team with the new players will be the basis off the team next 2/3 years I think the team is still a couple of players short but expect to see 1/2/3 players added in the transfer windows at good money from now on, rather than having to buy a new team every summer.
Its not easy or cheap playing catch up but hopefully the team is strong enough to survive with relative ease 10th - 14th so can start building from a decent base.
I really just want a boring season in the prem and a cup run this season tbh.
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Early kick off today 12.45 GMT so I am off out, put this up early no teams news available yet.
Dwight & Carlos are reported in contention for the squad, but honestly not a clue.
The match is being carried by a lot of foriegn channels so there should be more working links than you can throw a stick at.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=18807&part=sports
http://www.justin.tv/directory/sports
Expect a tight game Boro are playing well, we still haven't got a working midfield.
The radio link placed in last match thread should work again.
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=15712
Players will offer full value, says Keane
By Nick Alexander
Roy Keane insists Sunderland's foreign legion will have no problems understanding the importance of tomorrow's Wear-Tees derby.
Djibril Cisse, Pascal Chimbonda, El-Hadji Diouf, Steed Malbranque and Teemu Tainio, all new players to the club, are set for their first taste of a derby in the North-East.
All have featured in other big derby games in England and Keane says they will appreciate what is at stake when Middlesbrough visit the Stadium of Light (12.45pm).
"These players know the game and they'll get into it, they'll understand what it means to the supporters and we will be reminding them beforehand," said the manager.
"We tend to approach every game the same but we appreciate what this game, and more so the Newcastle game, mean to the fans, the derbies have an extra edge.
"Boro will come up and have a go, that's the way they play and it should make for a good game."
southgate450 Roy Keane will tomorrow go head to head with Gareth Southgate for a third time as a manager
Sunderland are looking to register their first home win of the season - at the third attempt.
Keane's side opened the campaign with a defeat to Liverpool at the Stadium of Light and followed it up with a forgettable 3-0 home defeat by Manchester City.
"Our home form was so important last year, we want to get back to winning ways in front of our own fans," said Keane.
"I think we have done OK at home this season, apart from a mad 20 minutes against City.
"When the fans come to watch, they want to see a victory, especially in a derby. Our fans have been as loyal and as patient as any in the land, but they will expect a top performance tomorrow and rightly so. Like the fans, we are looking forward to the game."
With a stronger squad at his disposal, Keane admits he is finding it more difficult to select his team. "There's a battle for places and I face some tough decisions," he said.
"There were a lot of disappointed players last week - Carlos Edwards, Liam Miller, Danny Collins, Phil Bardsley, Daryl Murphy and Dwight Yorke to name a few. But I would be disappointed if they were happy to be left out.
"I expect a good reaction from them. They have to knuckle down in training and try to get back in the team; and when they do, they have to stay there. I believe the team picks itself."
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Sunderland: Gordon, Chimbonda, Ferdinand, Nosworthy, McCartney, Malbranque, Whitehead, Tainio, Richardson, Cisse, Diouf. Subs: Fulop, Bardsley, Murphy, Collins, Chopra, Leadbitter, Reid.
Waste of time game..u see any TNT player in d lineup...d closest i see is T for Tainio..and dat aint sound Trini to me..more like Finnish...which is what I guessing happen to we players at Sunderland.....FINISH
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Sunderland: Gordon, Chimbonda, Ferdinand, Nosworthy, McCartney, Malbranque, Whitehead, Tainio, Richardson, Cisse, Diouf. Subs: Fulop, Bardsley, Murphy, Collins, Chopra, Leadbitter, Reid.
Waste of time game..u see any TNT player in d lineup...d closest i see is T for Tainio..and dat aint sound Trini to me..more like Finnish...which is what I guessing happen to we players at Sunderland.....FINISH
lol.
Sunderland dodged a bullet on the penalty, but Chopra played his socks off.
It will give the new boys something to reflect on and a welcome 3 home points.
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Sunderland win 2-0 both scored by Chopra
No trinis play tho...steupsssssss
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Wait what do I hear? Is that the sound of men/waggonist breaking their ankles as the jump of the Trini/Sunderland bandwagon?
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Wait what do I hear? Is that the sound of men/waggonist breaking their ankles as they jump of the Trini/Sunderland bandwagon?
:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :devil: :devil:.
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I still following dem, but yeah... men abandon ship with the quickness.
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YES I ABANDON THE FRIGGIN SHIP!! Its not a secret most of us were supporting Sunderland because of our countrymen were regulars on the team lol..if this is the case why dont alot of us support wrexham and other clubs where our countrymen warm bench almost every game....No trinbagonians playing at sunderland means a decrease in interest!..
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Doh worry ,the waggon go be full agian come october 18th . :devil: :devil:
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come on de only reason men was supportin dah unattractive football was becoz we fellow trinis was runin out...last season i wudda only tune in wen kenwyne was playin...hopefully de standard raise alot dis season becoz dey made some gud buy, man like diouf tuh entertain
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Understand that lads, but when I put it up no team news and as above.
Think Carlos will probably play in the Cup on Tuesday.
The game yesterday just got very lucky.
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kinda like between ah rock and ah hard place.but man u definitly takin care ah business this weekend.and judging from keane and co. away record ah draw at old trafford is unlikely.4 to 1 man u.with KJ on de scorecard.........live on FSC @ 12:30pm saturday.
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steups
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steups
LOL
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easy win :devil:
for the Black Cats
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Should be a good game
United 5(Ronaldo 2 Wazza,Berba and Tevez).. Sunderland 1(Jones)
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steups
yuh teeth should fall out.
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The real question is will Keane be in charge or will it be his last game. Its looking increasingly likely that he is off.
Found this quite funny off Football365, thought you might like it.
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8751_4582643,00.html
Roy Maurice Keane: My True Story*
Posted 03/12/08 12:31
Stand up. Mirror. Staring. Can I do it? A moment...NO. I'm ready. Get the dog lead. Get the wallet. Focus.
"Will you be going to the shops or not then Roy?"
It's the wife. Hands me the shopping list. On a post-it. Yellow. Like a card. Not red. Going for the ball.
"I'm not going to those f****** amateurs in Tesco again," I tell her. "Do you think Felipe Scolari's doing his shopping pushing a trolley with a busted wheel?"
I'm angry now, running it back in my mind...last time, the trolley, the big stack of baked beans half price, the wobbly wheel, children crying, losing control. Beans.
I'm sitting on the floor in the hall. The wife's standing there. "Just get a pint of milk from the corner then, love, " she says.
I get up. She comes at me. I kiss her, hard. On the cheek. The cheek was there (I think). "Take that," I think to myself.
"Take what?" she asks. I go out of the house.
Corner shop. Corner. Defend it. Zonal. I TOLD YOU TO PICK HIM UP - THAT WAS YOUR MAN.
Milk. Milk. Focus on the milk.
"Morning Roy." It's Mr Patel.
"You're a f****** crap newsagent and you're a f****** crap person," I say.
"Okay," he says.
I turn and look for the milk. Stuff, money, bag. Walking again. Blind man. Dog. Stick. Can't he see? Why can't he see? Can't he see that was offside? What is he doing?
I'm in the kitchen. Wife's unpacking the shopping. She's not happy. Teacups?
No. Shaking head.
"What's all this stuff, Roy?"
I don't understand. Stare.
"Roy. I've asked you out for a pint of milk. You've come back with four packets of rubber gloves, a Sodastream - I didn't know they still made them - six biros, not one but two copies of New Scientist, a case of Doctor Pepper and 400 Silk Cut. You don't even smoke, Roy."
"No," I say.
"And how much have you spent? Turn out your pockets," she says.
Coins, notes, clank, receipt.
"Roy."
She's talking.
"Roy, you've spent 85 quid on rubbish. Absolute rubbish. What were you thinking? And where the hell's the milk?"
Focus. Got to focus. Keep looking straight ahead. Focus.
* Not with the bollix Dunphy
Alan Tyers and John Nicholson
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This will be Kenwyne Jones's most important game in his life to date....
Man Utd had a habit of chasing players who perform very well against them, eg Yorke, Saha, Tevez when he poison them in the last game of the season 2 years ago for West Ham, Rooney...etc etc...
A very commanding display against Ferdinand and Vidic will have Fergie's interest.
He is young, strong, fast and theoretically a very good future ahead of him, plus transfer fee whould not be too high from a club struggling as much as Sunderland....
Very important game....Good luck KJ.
Edwards kinda too old now for them to consider..you would think
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Breaking News
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Keane and Sunderland part company
Keane took charge of Sunderland in 2006
Roy Keane has left his position as manager of Sunderland Football Club, BBC Sport understands.
Keane has hinted in recent weeks that his future may not be certain hinting that he could leave the club.
Sunderland are 18th in the Premier League and have lost five of their last six games.
The former Manchester United midfielder took over at the Stadium of Light in 2006 and led them to the Premier League in the 2006/07 season.
Their latest defeat came against Bolton on Saturday with the Black Cats losing 4-1.
More to follow.
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Keane leaves Black Cats
Sunderland manager quits
Sunderland have parted company with manager Roy Keane, skysports.com understands.
Keane had been locked in talks over a new deal, which had refused to sign until he was fully happy with the terms.
Now the Irish legend has walked away from the job, following weeks of speculation about his position.
Keane took charge in August 2006 and he made an immediate impact as he guided Sunderland to the Championship title the following May.
Last season the club consolidated their place in the top-flight and Keane's task this term was to make an assault on the top-half of the table.
With that in mind, Sunderland backed Keane by spending nearly £30million on new players with the likes of Djibril Cisse, Pascal Chimbonda, Anton Ferdinand, El-Hadji Diouf and George McCartney all coming in.
Coupled with the plus £30million spent the previous summer, expectation levels were high on Wearside.
However, despite a morale boosting Wear-Tyne victory over rivals Newcastle - their first since 1980 - Sunderland's form and place in the league has plummeted.
Just two wins in ten league games sees them in the bottom three, and speculation has been rife in the North East over the last month that Keane was ready to walk away from the club.
And now the former Manchester United has left his first managerial post, leaving Sunderland chairman Niall Quinn with the task of finding somebody to guide the club to Premier League safety.
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:o :o
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:o :o :o
Hmmmm....wonder what effect this will have on the playing time of the trinis........and more importantly - who will take over now ???
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the trinis and the entire squad have to battle to impree this new manger wheter theywant to or not
fair chance for everyone
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:o :o :o
Hmmmm....wonder what effect this will have on the playing time of the trinis........and more importantly - who will take over now ???
Don't know why you are shocked see the Manu Sunderland thread.
I personally have a bit mixture of regret and relief given his comments on Friday.
Easily have teh palyers just got to get organised now.
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hmm i wonder who in charge for Saturday's game and further more who replacing him.
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This will be Kenwyne Jones's most important game in his life to date....
Man Utd had a habit of chasing players who perform very well against them, eg Yorke, Saha, Tevez when he poison them in the last game of the season 2 years ago for West Ham, Rooney...etc etc...
A very commanding display against Ferdinand and Vidic will have Fergie's interest.
He is young, strong, fast and theoretically a very good future ahead of him, plus transfer fee whould not be too high from a club struggling as much as Sunderland....
Very important game....Good luck KJ.
Edwards kinda too old now for them to consider..you would think
yeah right
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King.
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hmm i wonder who in charge for Saturday's game and further more who replacing him.
Yorke ;D
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it was nice roy - all de best
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hmm i wonder who in charge for Saturday's game and further more who replacing him.
Yorke ;D
We could give them Maturana?!? :-\
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hmm i wonder who in charge for Saturday's game and further more who replacing him.
Quinn will probably take charge for Saturday.
Could be a cricket score or the Sunderland players could realize that they need to do better.
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Like d defeat v Grenada not shock. Thanks 4 hookin up we fellas all d best.
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This will be Kenwyne Jones's most important game in his life to date....
Man Utd had a habit of chasing players who perform very well against them, eg Yorke, Saha, Tevez when he poison them in the last game of the season 2 years ago for West Ham, Rooney...etc etc...
A very commanding display against Ferdinand and Vidic will have Fergie's interest.
He is young, strong, fast and theoretically a very good future ahead of him, plus transfer fee whould not be too high from a club struggling as much as Sunderland....
Very important game....Good luck KJ.
Edwards kinda too old now for them to consider..you would think
Trini what yuh really saying?
I would think that his selection for the return leg against Bahrain or the World Cup games were much bigger games than playing United, a team that he will play again this season and several times in the coming years.
On top of that United is not interested in Jones. They have three main strikers and a three youths to bring through. If they looking to bring in any players it will be in midfield or defence.
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hmm i wonder who in charge for Saturday's game and further more who replacing him.
Sunderland confirm Roy Keane departure
After 2 ¼ years at the helm, Roy Keane has parted company with Sunderland AFC after both parties reached an amicable agreement.
Keane, who decided the time had come to stand down took over Sunderland in August 2006 when the team were languishing at the bottom of the Championship. He steered the Black Cats to promotion to the Premier League at the first attempt and maintained Premier League status in 2008.
Sunderland Chairman Niall Quinn said: “First of all on behalf of everyone here I would like pay thanks to Roy Keane for all his hard work in progressing this Club, lifting its status and growing its worldwide profile.
“Roy deserves huge respect for his contribution and the manner in which he guided the Club from the depths of The Championship back to the Premier League. His winning mentality and singled mindedness were just what this Club needed when Drumaville took over shortly before his arrival.
“Roy’s decision to stand aside and allow someone else to take charge of the next chapter sums up his desire to always do what is best for the Club. Even in his departure he has been more concerned for the welfare of the players and his staff than himself.
“The Board has reluctantly accepted his decision and wish him and his family well for the future.“
Roy Keane added “I would like to thank my staff, players, Niall Quinn and in particular the fans for their support during my time at Sunderland and I would like to wish the Club every success in the future.”
The Board will now commence the task of identifying and recruiting a successor and Ricky Sbragia has agreed to take over team management assisted by Neil Bailey and Dwight Yorke as an interim measure.
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hmm i wonder who in charge for Saturday's game and further more who replacing him.
Sunderland confirm Roy Keane departure
After 2 ¼ years at the helm, Roy Keane has parted company with Sunderland AFC after both parties reached an amicable agreement.
Keane, who decided the time had come to stand down took over Sunderland in August 2006 when the team were languishing at the bottom of the Championship. He steered the Black Cats to promotion to the Premier League at the first attempt and maintained Premier League status in 2008.
Sunderland Chairman Niall Quinn said: “First of all on behalf of everyone here I would like pay thanks to Roy Keane for all his hard work in progressing this Club, lifting its status and growing its worldwide profile.
“Roy deserves huge respect for his contribution and the manner in which he guided the Club from the depths of The Championship back to the Premier League. His winning mentality and singled mindedness were just what this Club needed when Drumaville took over shortly before his arrival.
“Roy’s decision to stand aside and allow someone else to take charge of the next chapter sums up his desire to always do what is best for the Club. Even in his departure he has been more concerned for the welfare of the players and his staff than himself.
“The Board has reluctantly accepted his decision and wish him and his family well for the future.“
Roy Keane added “I would like to thank my staff, players, Niall Quinn and in particular the fans for their support during my time at Sunderland and I would like to wish the Club every success in the future.”
The Board will now commence the task of identifying and recruiting a successor and Ricky Sbragia has agreed to take over team management assisted by Neil Bailey and Dwight Yorke as an interim measure.
whoa this is good news for yorkie let us see how this goes
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Dwight learnin so he and Latas can take charge when JW wake up and realize d present coach pass he sell date
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this could turn into a cricket score if sunderland play de ass. :devil:
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I have to admit I'm a lil disappointed ... Keane is a man known for stepping up his game when the heat is on and now ...when he need to really step up he walks away? To me it doesn't make sense I never envision him as a quitter ...... I wonder if he lost the dressing room? I can't help but feel this is a loss to sunderland and a big one!
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Not cricket rugby or hockey
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hmm i wonder who in charge for Saturday's game and further more who replacing him.
Yorke ;D
He is helping the assistant coach ;D.... May be Yorke will send them Latas "CV"
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I have to admit I'm a lil disappointed ... Keane is a man known for stepping up his game when the heat is on and now ...when he need to really step up he walks away? To me it doesn't make sense I never envision him as a quitter ...... I wonder if he lost the dressing room? I can't help but feel this is a loss to sunderland and a big one!
He is a very emotional man.... you get this picture when you read his Biography....
Shame for him to walk away......
I agree with you on this one.
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Well...if Yorke there, hopefully Carlos have a chance still. Otherwise, he in trouble if anybody comes in who didn't see him in their promotion year.
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who's the f**kin clown now?
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Sunderland owe him a lot. Got them back in the top flight after they were languishing in the bottom off the Championship table. Gave some of our boys a chance to show what they can do.
Often when a manager walks away, the board 'encourages' him to leave. Sunderland (the club) probably have a lot of respect for Keane and may have given him the opportunity to 'quit' instead of firing him outright. May not necessarily be a case of him being a 'quitter'.
In any case, he is a rookie manager and should have learned alot from his experiences. If he wants to continue to manage at the top level, I feel he'll get more chances. And if Republic of Ireland fail to qualify for the WC...watch for his name to get call one time
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who's the f**kin clown now?
you
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Sunderland owe him a lot. Got them back in the top flight after they were languishing in the bottom off the Championship table. Gave some of our boys a chance to show what they can do.
Often when a manager walks away, the board 'encourages' him to leave. Sunderland (the club) probably have a lot of respect for Keane and may have given him the opportunity to 'quit' instead of firing him outright. May not necessarily be a case of him being a 'quitter'.
In any case, he is a rookie manager and should have learned alot from his experiences. If he wants to continue to manage at the top level, I feel he'll get more chances. And if Republic of Ireland fail to qualify for the WC...watch for his name to get call one time
Filho, I don't know if the board encourage him to leave in this case.
RK is a loose cannon.
He made stipulations to his contract - details of which we can infer - and management was unwilling to bend.
RK has made a hash out of this season, with players he bought, in a system that he built.
He asked the board for the leeway, and they gave it to him with 100% full backing.
No-one gave him the opportunity to quit.
He quit because he didn't get his own way.
The same way he quit on Ireland in his playing days. He didn't get his own way.
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A few days ago this friend and reporter wrote this article. I believe it was the final nail in the ----------
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/sunderland/3544179/Roy-Keanes-ghostwriter-Eamonn-Dunphy-casts-doubt-over-Sunderland-manager-credentials-Football.html
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who's the f**kin clown now?
you
:rotfl: :duel:
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who's the f**kin clown now?
you
water off a duck's back. My loyalty to that club is none existant.
If Kenywne Jones or any Trini for that fact were to play for Newcastle United ... I would be a fan of their too.
When Shaka Hislop played for Newcastle United, I was a "fan" of theirs too. Then he left, and I said f**k 'em.
I surmise many of the other forumites here will have similar feelings.
Fact - our loyalty is to our Trini kin over some club in the NE of England that most of us couldn't even point out on a map.
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oooooooooo guuuuuuuuuuuuuddddd :devil:
pass me some pop-corn :-X
who's the f**kin clown now?
you
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who's the f**kin clown now?
you
water off a duck's back. My loyalty to that club is none existant.
If Kenywne Jones or any Trini for that fact were to play for Newcastle United ... I would be a fan of their too.
When Shaka Hislop played for Newcastle United, I was a "fan" of theirs too. Then he left, and I said f**k 'em.
I surmise many of the other forumites here will have similar feelings.
Fact - our loyalty is to our Trini kin over some club in the NE of England that most of us couldn't even point out on a map.
oh gosh man . Steups. u coulda make a better come back than that man.
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Sunderland owe him a lot.
It seems like, in recent weeks, a lot of their fans forgot that.
Somebody should give Quinn Beenie number. Let him bring back Stern John and sign Bleeder.
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Daily Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/2432939/Premier-League-Transfer-Talk---Club-by-club---Football-Transfers---Football-Rumours.html)
Ehy alyuh scroll down to the Newcastle news...Yorkie was getting a deal there. I could see now why he snub them.
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who's the f**kin clown now?
you
water off a duck's back. My loyalty to that club is none existant.
If Kenywne Jones or any Trini for that fact were to play for Newcastle United ... I would be a fan of their too.
When Shaka Hislop played for Newcastle United, I was a "fan" of theirs too. Then he left, and I said f**k 'em.
I surmise many of the other forumites here will have similar feelings.
Fact - our loyalty is to our Trini kin over some club in the NE of England that most of us couldn't even point out on a map.
Yep understand that but from your perspective it is not necessarily good news.
Keane was loyal very loyal to certain players including the 3 trini's.
KJ has been injured this season but was a massive favourite of Keane's. He is still finding his fitness / sharpness with his injury but it doesn't alter the fact he played poorly from Liverpool on last season. A new manager may not be so forgiving, lets face it prem clubs weren't exactly queuing up to buy him, without Keane it is debatable whether KJ would of made the prem or not. I doubt we will see Yorke or Edwards again in a Sunderland shirt given current form and age.
The reality is he was right on who he called a clown.
As I said the other week whichever way it fell the club owe Keane a massive debt of gratitude.
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oooooooooo guuuuuuuuuuuuuddddd :devil:
pass me some pop-corn :-X
who's the f**kin clown now?
you
behave ;)
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who's the f**kin clown now?
you
:rotfl:
Flawless victory
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:rotfl:
:beermug:
oooooooooo guuuuuuuuuuuuuddddd :devil:
pass me some pop-corn :-X
who's the f**kin clown now?
you
behave ;)
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Yep understand that but from your perspective it is not necessarily good news.
Keane was loyal very loyal to certain players including the 3 trini's.
KJ has been injured this season but was a massive favourite of Keane's. He is still finding his fitness / sharpness with his injury but it doesn't alter the fact he played poorly from Liverpool on last season. A new manager may not be so forgiving, lets face it prem clubs weren't exactly queuing up to buy him, without Keane it is debatable whether KJ would of made the prem or not. I doubt we will see Yorke or Edwards again in a Sunderland shirt given current form and age.
The reality is he was right on who he called a clown.
As I said the other week whichever way it fell the club owe Keane a massive debt of gratitude.
I get your level of love for club.
It's the same with us and our "small" country. Cult following of college is even more serious per Intercol fever.
My reason for not caring is more of a sense of some payback.
Keane gave 3 Trini's a chance.
Keane also hampered Trinidad's progress by DEMANDING Yorke back from National duty for our WCQ versus the US ... and also forcing him to make a choice between club and duty/ loyalty for his country by waving a contract in front of him.
Jack Warner opening up his mouth allowed us further use of Yorke .... and without his services, we would still not be in the running for South Africa 2010.
If it were up to Keane, we would have no Yorke - and no dream of SA.
... and don't be fooled, MANY others here would share the same sentiment.
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Yep understand that but from your perspective it is not necessarily good news.
Keane was loyal very loyal to certain players including the 3 trini's.
KJ has been injured this season but was a massive favourite of Keane's. He is still finding his fitness / sharpness with his injury but it doesn't alter the fact he played poorly from Liverpool on last season. A new manager may not be so forgiving, lets face it prem clubs weren't exactly queuing up to buy him, without Keane it is debatable whether KJ would of made the prem or not. I doubt we will see Yorke or Edwards again in a Sunderland shirt given current form and age.
The reality is he was right on who he called a clown.
As I said the other week whichever way it fell the club owe Keane a massive debt of gratitude.
I get your level of love for club.
It's the same with us and our "small" country. Cult following of college is even more serious per Intercol fever.
My reason for not caring is more of a sense of some payback.
Keane gave 3 Trini's a chance.
Keane also hampered Trinidad's progress by DEMANDING Yorke back from National duty for our WCQ versus the US ... and also forcing him to make a choice between club and duty/ loyalty for his country by waving a contract in front of him.
Jack Warner opening up his mouth allowed us further use of Yorke .... and without his services, we would still not be in the running for South Africa 2010.
If it were up to Keane, we would have no Yorke - and no dream of SA.
... and don't be fooled, MANY others here would share the same sentiment.
That must be good gear your on
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blasted shit side
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blasted shit side that gave two of our players a chance that they might not have got otherwise.....some of you real bitter boy
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Wow Keene get toss -to bad- ,The Toronto Raptors fire the Coach -yeahhhh- ,good day all that left is for jack to see how pro organisations dispose of coaches who not getting the job done .
To bad Roy didnt leave Carlos with the Wolves .
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que sera sera.if the man want to go.so be it.this could benefit the team.wait and see.
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Dont forget Keano helped Sunderland survive a 07/8 premiership season and were even 1'st in the championship the year before!
He has done well, but I personally think that Sunderland have to be more consistent in their play, and their backline is in need of a bushbath fullstop. I would like to see Sunderland stay up and I for one wishes the team and Keane the best in the future. :beermug:
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blasted shit side
I am sick to death of telling some of the plastic football fans on here, this side is like Real Madrid compared with what I have watched most years I have supported the club. ;D
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doh worry with them at least you support your local side and go to the games a lot of people here dont do shit for their local side
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1. Big loss for Sunderland
2. What does this mean for the Warriors if Yorke is an Assistant Manager? Maybe he will be more limited time-wise, which could interfere with our qualification matches.
3. Say what you will about Keane, but he showed true class in putting the club first. He recognized the club was going into darker territory, cares about the legacy and tradition of Sunderland enough to let it go before sinking futher with lower expectations.
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doh worry with them at least you support your local side and go to the games a lot of people here dont do shit for their local side
you throwing that talk for me
i never miss ah cali game when i in trini. come again
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Yep understand that but from your perspective it is not necessarily good news.
Keane was loyal very loyal to certain players including the 3 trini's.
KJ has been injured this season but was a massive favourite of Keane's. He is still finding his fitness / sharpness with his injury but it doesn't alter the fact he played poorly from Liverpool on last season. A new manager may not be so forgiving, lets face it prem clubs weren't exactly queuing up to buy him, without Keane it is debatable whether KJ would of made the prem or not. I doubt we will see Yorke or Edwards again in a Sunderland shirt given current form and age.
The reality is he was right on who he called a clown.
As I said the other week whichever way it fell the club owe Keane a massive debt of gratitude.
I get your level of love for club.
It's the same with us and our "small" country. Cult following of college is even more serious per Intercol fever.
My reason for not caring is more of a sense of some payback.
Keane gave 3 Trini's a chance.
Keane also hampered Trinidad's progress by DEMANDING Yorke back from National duty for our WCQ versus the US ... and also forcing him to make a choice between club and duty/ loyalty for his country by waving a contract in front of him.
Jack Warner opening up his mouth allowed us further use of Yorke .... and without his services, we would still not be in the running for South Africa 2010.
If it were up to Keane, we would have no Yorke - and no dream of SA.
... and don't be fooled, MANY others here would share the same sentiment.
youre talking a whole set of shit and couldnt be more wrong and look like more of an ass for it. just stop.
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At least Yorke can start himself now
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i was'nt refering to you but if you want to wear the cap go ahead
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Keane did a lot for the team, the mistake he made was not signing a bruiser...and it shows on the pitch. He needed to find a young player like himself. Sunderland have no bite in d middle, someone to back up richardson.
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who's the f**kin clown now?
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Keane did a lot for the team, the mistake he made was not signing a bruiser...and it shows on the pitch. He needed to find a young player like himself. Sunderland have no bite in d middle, someone to back up richardson.
He signed Etuhu, but sold him without signing an improvement or replacement. Etuhu used to mash men up but then give away the ball.
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Latest odds for the new Sunderland Manager (PaddyPower.com):
Sam Allardyce 2-1, Gordan Strachan 6-1, Alan Curbishley 7-1, Phil Brown 10-1, David O'Leary 12-1.
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Yep understand that but from your perspective it is not necessarily good news.
Keane was loyal very loyal to certain players including the 3 trini's.
KJ has been injured this season but was a massive favourite of Keane's. He is still finding his fitness / sharpness with his injury but it doesn't alter the fact he played poorly from Liverpool on last season. A new manager may not be so forgiving, lets face it prem clubs weren't exactly queuing up to buy him, without Keane it is debatable whether KJ would of made the prem or not. I doubt we will see Yorke or Edwards again in a Sunderland shirt given current form and age.
The reality is he was right on who he called a clown.
As I said the other week whichever way it fell the club owe Keane a massive debt of gratitude.
I get your level of love for club.
It's the same with us and our "small" country. Cult following of college is even more serious per Intercol fever.
My reason for not caring is more of a sense of some payback.
Keane gave 3 Trini's a chance.
Keane also hampered Trinidad's progress by DEMANDING Yorke back from National duty for our WCQ versus the US ... and also forcing him to make a choice between club and duty/ loyalty for his country by waving a contract in front of him.
Jack Warner opening up his mouth allowed us further use of Yorke .... and without his services, we would still not be in the running for South Africa 2010.
If it were up to Keane, we would have no Yorke - and no dream of SA.
... and don't be fooled, MANY others here would share the same sentiment.
youre talking a whole set of shit and couldnt be more wrong and look like more of an ass for it. just stop.
riiight.
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Keane should apply to Jack for the Soca Warriors coaching position.... since the Dumbtist looking shakey...
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I have to admit I'm a lil disappointed ... Keane is a man known for stepping up his game when the heat is on and now ...when he need to really step up he walks away? To me it doesn't make sense I never envision him as a quitter ...... I wonder if he lost the dressing room? I can't help but feel this is a loss to sunderland and a big one!
He is a very emotional man.... you get this picture when you read his Biography....
Shame for him to walk away......
I agree with you on this one.
Ditto.
Clearly, there's room for his intelligence to have a conversation with his emotion and gut. On balance, disappointing as it may be, no surprise here really.
Roy while chilling and reflecting ... have a pint and a chat with Martin O'Neill.
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Keane should apply to Jack for the Soca Warriors coaching position.... since the Dumbtist looking shakey...
Wonder if weary would pay to see that?
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Keane should apply to Jack for the Soca Warriors coaching position
You ever see a whole team get bench?
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Willin 2 take a loan 2 c dat assylum
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Willin 2 take a loan 2 c dat assylum
He think warner is ah clown hah! He eint know he own the whole circus .
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Love him or hate him Keane stands by his decision unlike d yday was yday... fella
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OK mr Keane good luck in your future endeavors
Thanks for how you treated Carlos, KJ and Dwight
I wonder if Braveheart ever did leave ah wuk in he time?
how was his time at...........say........East Stirlingshire ???
eh....anyone ???
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Critics not so Keane anymore
Narey's toepoker - a Scottish football blog
The surprise, as far as I'm concerned, is that it's only been in the last six weeks that the pressure had been growing on Roy Keane, prior to his departure from Sunderland today. For pretty much the whole of 2008 (I'd be tempted to say since they were promoted a year and a bit ago) they have been, to say the least poor. Few Premier League sides are as dull, as drab, and now they can't grind out wins at home any more, the chickens at last came home to roost. Sunderland have won only 12 out of 37 games in this calendar year, and only one of their five victories this season wass by a goal or more - 2-0 vs Boro in September (the second goal with the last kick of the game). They now lie eighteenth in the Premier League.
Fans of the Irishman keep harping on and on about the fact he got them promoted at the first try, after coming in with the team bottom of the Championship. But that's a long way in the past, and what concerned me, and presumably Niall Quinn, was the way Keane has managed Sunderland in the Premier League. Look at the player turnover, for crying out loud. Only four senior squad members have been at the club longer than the Royster. He has signed 33 players, for an estimated 82.6 million squids. Apart from anything else, that's a heck of an outlay for a squad which contains no current England internationals, and whose only current international players are either from the other home nations (hardly a mark of quality these days!) or Trinidad & Tobago.
Not only that, but Keane's side are ridiculously unbalanced, with a purchasing policy so ridiculous that you would have thought Damien Comolli had been involved. Check out his strikers. Stokes, Chopra and O'Donovan (combined 7.5mil) are all shipped out on loan. You have Cisse (on loan) and Jones as the recognised front two, it's fair to say. Healy and Prica (3.5mil total) have made a grand total of 1 start between them, and that was in the Carling Cup. Connolly has barely played since promotion. And, surprise surprise, Diouf fell out with the coach. Who saw that coming, eh, the likes of Chimbonda and Diouf turning out to have personality clashes with Mr. Keane?
Meanwhile, apart from Kieran Richardson and Steed Malbranque, the midfield is filled with Championship clog-hoppers - Whitehead, Edwards, Leadbitter, Miller, Reid. And Dwight Yorke, for Christ's sake, who is so past it that he probably has embalming fluid in his veins.
So will they go down? Probably not, providing Quinn gets a manager who can tighten up the defence and get them a point here, a point there, a la Megson and Hodgson last season for Bolton and Fulham respectively. Sam Allardyce seems the obvious candidate, with his ability to manage inflated egos (at least from his Bolton days) a bonus. But while, simply by being in the EPL, Roy Keane has left Sunderland in a better state than that in which they arrived, it is not terribly harsh to suggest that you and I could have done just about as good a job.
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Fukk Roy Keane. Good riddance.
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Critics not so Keane anymore
Narey's toepoker - a Scottish football blog
http://nareystoepoker.blogspot.com/
anyone want to let Lorry know anything :devil:
He says that he is Loud, sarcastic and prone to dramatic mood swings - does that make me the perfect football fan?
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Players shocked over Keane exit
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7765513.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7765513.stm)
Sunderland midfielder Carlos Edwards says the team were surprised by manager Roy Keane's decision to resign.
Keane, 37, left the Wearside club on Thursday having been in charge at the Stadium of Light for 27 months.
Edwards told BBC Radio 5 Live: "The players still had full confidence in him. I went to work thinking it was going to be normal but it wasn't to be.
"We just have to get our heads down and continue to start winning games and push ourselves back up the table."
Edwards also played down suggestions Keane had fallen out with players.
"Managers are going to have run-ins with any players and you will find that in any club.
"But to say some of the players didn't want to play for him, I'm not going to say that.
"Some players are always going to be unhappy about not playing, it's up to the players at the end of the day to prove him wrong."
Premier League managers Martin O'Neill and Steve Bruce expressed their disappointment at Keane's early departure.
Aston Villa boss O'Neill said: "I think he has done wonderfully well at Sunderland at the start of his managerial career.
"I'm as disappointed to hear he has left as when I heard that Jose Mourinho had left Chelsea. That's the sort of impact Roy Keane has had on football."
While Bruce, Wigan manager and Keane's team-mate at Manchester United from 1993-96, told BBC Radio 5 Live: "Football is a better place when Roy is in it.
"I hope it's not too long before we see him back. I don't think it will be long before he is back in somewhere. I wish him well because I like him, I've always admired him as a player.
Keane took over at the Stadium of Light on 28 August 2006 with Sunderland bottom of the Championship having lost their opening four games following relegation from the Premier League.
The 37-year-old former Republic of Ireland international guided them to the top of the table and they won the league by two points from Bruce's Birmingham.
Keane's first Premier League season was mixed yet they retained their status by finishing three points clear of the drop zone in 15th.
But Sunderland have struggled this term, winning four of their opening 15 games, losing five of their last six and slipping to 18th.
"If it is his decision there must be reasons why," said Bruce. "When I last spoke to him he was thoroughly enjoying it, enjoying the challenge and all parts of the job.
"When he went there they were in turmoil - bottom of the Championship and without a win.
"It needed a big personality with a big presence to walk in and give it a shake-up and boy did he give it a shake-up.
"Once you get into the Premier League the focus is on you and more often than not you're playing against great, great teams who can beat you and it's difficult.
"He might have genuinely though he had taken them as far as he could."
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Keane smart. He did the right thing. He know they going down. He quit so he would not be blamed.
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Sunderland owe him a lot.
It seems like, in recent weeks, a lot of their fans forgot that.
Somebody should give Quinn Beenie number. Let him bring back Stern John and sign Bleeder.
Yes, football fans have short memories. They were near the bottom of The Championship when he took over and took them to the Premiership in the same season...
I think he's leaving too soon. It took Fergie four years to get things right an MUFC and like Keane, bought his fair share of duds (Gibson, Milne, Donaghy) before he got everything to click.
But Keane was always a harsh critic when it came to his own performances...
I wish him well.
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I'd like to think that Tevez deserves a start after single handedly demolishing Blackburn last night...
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Actually after the 1-0 win last year in Old Trafford vs Sunderland(I was there ;D).. it was also KJ's debut
Vidic went on to say after the game the lads were talking about Kenwyne as being a menance and had them on their toes... he also said he was one of the hardest players to challenge in the air
I read that last season in "Inside United"(club's official mag)
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Allyuh acting like this is something new.
Keane is mr. emotional. When the going get rough this is what does happen.
Remember him walking out on the Ireland team on the eve of the World Cup? How about his attack on the United youngsters prior to his being booted out of Man Utd?
This is just the latest episode from a man who incapable of keeping his emotions in check.
He make his bed let him lie on it. If you buying troublemakers like Chimbonda and Diouf, you have to be capable of dealing with them. Its the calculated risk he took and he paid the price. Many of us hear sounded the alarm bells for dressing room unrest when they were signed.
Sad thing is that Sunderland will be much worse off for this one. The only reason they were able to attract decent players up in that cold place was mostly on the basis of the Roy Keane factor. If they thought it hard to attract talent then, it will be ten times harder now.
I might not like how this story ended, but Sunderland have a whole lot to thank Keane for. He made a lasting impression on the club.
However, i would be surprised if they survive in the EPL past this season. Quinn and co have some interesting times ahead.
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Wha i now hear on tv dey bout Yorke is part of coachin staff dey?
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Yeah it is true. Imagine if Yorke take over as manager?
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hmm i wonder who in charge for Saturday's game and further more who replacing him.
Yorke ;D
We could give them Maturana?!? :-\
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: allyuh fellahs is rel ass yes! good one!
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Allyuh acting like this is something new.
Keane is mr. emotional. When the going get rough this is what does happen.
Remember him walking out on the Ireland team on the eve of the World Cup? How about his attack on the United youngsters prior to his being booted out of Man Utd?
This is just the latest episode from a man who incapable of keeping his emotions in check.
He make his bed let him lie on it. If you buying troublemakers like Chimbonda and Diouf, you have to be capable of dealing with them. Its the calculated risk he took and he paid the price. Many of us hear sounded the alarm bells for dressing room unrest when they were signed.
Sad thing is that Sunderland will be much worse off for this one. The only reason they were able to attract decent players up in that cold place was mostly on the basis of the Roy Keane factor. If they thought it hard to attract talent then, it will be ten times harder now.
I might not like how this story ended, but Sunderland have a whole lot to thank Keane for. He made a lasting impression on the club.
However, i would be surprised if they survive in the EPL past this season. Quinn and co have some interesting times ahead.
Omar you eh fair dey at atall ! I suppose the manager with the longest history in the premiership would be the one who has kept his emotions in check right ? I sure beckham go differ !!!! Man had to duck shoes an ting !
the man have a record that only the original Di fosto could love what you expect him to do ? Football is big business ..if he didn't resign they woudda resign him !
...and how you know they eh ask him to resign ? Keane has done something that some other men in charge eh have de guts to do ...they prefer to hang on and wait for de axe to fall !
Keane did the right thing and I am sure he could live with himself. Dat clip you imported bout how he walk out on the irish team etc...eh give de facts ! I suppose if you wasn't closely involved with de goings on in t&T football you woudda fall for dat tripe dat warner does be spreading all over too !
nah roy gets my respect for dah move ... dasheen doh grow on every soil ....
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bring in "The Chosen One" :devil:
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yea boy..Yorke on the staff ...so he on the staff bench back at Old Trafford too...nice..well done Dwight...
man who writng dem fellas script ??? geh meh he number
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Keane smart. He did the right thing. He know they going down. He quit so he would not be blamed.
Nah, I sense de man genuinely doh want to see his good work reversed.
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When the going get rough this is what does happen.
Like Turin '99, for example. ::)
I suppose thats why he was made the captain of his club AND country...
You don't have a clue about what you're talking about with regards to the 2002 WC and you're just recycling the same old garbage you typed regarding this issue a few months ago. There was more to it than Keane just 'walking out'. I'm not going to give you the whole story again because your head is so full of ground chaff that it would probably bounce off that black hole you call a brain (again) and evaporate into Internet oblivion...
As usual, Mr. Rent-a-Quote is here to make an ass out of himself, recycling his old material with a few opinions that he read on other forums to make himself look a bit clever. The forums very own Inspector Clouseau, bumbling around without a clue as his own predilection for irrelevancy demonstrates...
If you want a good example of someone quitting when the going gets 'tough' then look no further than Jose Mourinho...This was a man who quit because he couldn't stand up to his own chairman and then stomped his feet because United had the temerity to finish above them in the league in 2007.
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If Yorke can become a coach then so can I.
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When the going get rough this is what does happen.
Like Turin '99, for example. ::)
I suppose thats why he was made the captain of his club AND country...
You don't have a clue about what you're talking about with regards to the 2002 WC and you're just recycling the same old garbage you typed regarding this issue a few months ago. There was more to it than Keane just 'walking out'. I'm not going to give you the whole story again because your head is so full of ground chaff that it would probably bounce off that black hole you call a brain (again) and evaporate into Internet oblivion...
As usual, Mr. Rent-a-Quote is here to make an ass out of himself, recycling his old material with a few opinions that he read on other forums to make himself look a bit clever. The forums very own Inspector Clouseau, bumbling around without a clue as his own predilection for irrelevancy demonstrates...
If you want a good example of someone quitting when the going gets 'tough' then look no further than Jose Mourinho...This was a man who quit because he couldn't stand up to his own chairman and then stomped his feet because United had the temerity to finish above them in the league in 2007.
Whereas we sayin de same ting de way you say yours makin me check mine over again .....just my view :beermug:
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Should be a good game
United 5(Ronaldo 2 Wazza,Berba and Tevez).. Sunderland 1(Jones)
ronaldo suspended not so?
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good riddance!
maybe now this shit team can show that they belong playing with the big boys.
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Hmmmm de big wannabe gangster keane out of a job now
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Who will be the next 'Harry Redknapp'?
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Should be a good game
United 5(Ronaldo 2 Wazza,Berba and Tevez).. Sunderland 1(Jones)
ronaldo suspended not so?
nope he served his suspension(Carling Cup mauling over Blackburn)
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Yorke to act as assistant coach
....Keane resigns as Sunderland boss
Roy Keane has resigned as manager of Sunderland after 27 months in charge.
Keane, 37, took over in 2006 but chose to step down with the club lying 18th in the Premier League following five defeats in six matches.
First team coach Ricky Sbragia has been placed in charge temporarily, assisted by coaches Neil Bailey and Dwight Yorke.
Yorke now assumes this role and there would be questions as to his availability to the national football team for the final round of World Cup Qualification next year.
Earlier this year, Keane and T&TFF Special Advisor Jack Warner had a public spat over the availibility of Yorke for the Soca Warriors World Cup effort.
Warner said Keane showed no respect for T&T and Keane in turn said Warner was a clown.
Meanwhile, Sunderland’s chairman Niall Quinn said: “Roy’s decision sums up his desire to always do what is best for the club, despite the club’s efforts to keep him.
“Roy deserves huge respect for his contribution and the manner in which he guided the club from the depths of the Championship back to the Premier League.
Niall Quinn expresses his disappointment at the departure of Roy Keane.
“His winning mentality and singled mindedness were just what this club needed. Even in his departure he has been more concerned for the welfare of the players and his staff than himself.
“The board has reluctantly accepted his decision and wish him and his family well for the future.”
Quinn, who held talks with Keane over three days in an attempt to persuade him to stay, added: “He lifted this place off its knees, he is a tremendous influence.
“Five weeks ago (after beating Newcastle) people were dancing in the streets of Sunderland. It’s a funny world football and I hoped I’d never have to do this day.
Keane took charge of Sunderland in August 2006
“I spoke many times about Roy and I being in a partnership and it feels like the partnership has dissolved now.
“I wish him real well in the future. He’ll get a bit of time to himself now to re-charge but I think we all know the Premiership hasn’t seen the last of him. He’s got great things to come.”
Keane, who guided the Black Cats to the Premier League in 2006-07, had said in recent weeks that his future may not be certain, although Sunderland have spent the last few days trying to persuade him to stay on.
The Black Cats’ latest defeat came against Bolton on Saturday and Keane said after the 4-1 loss: “I ask myself every day if I’m the right man for Sunderland.
“I asked myself this morning and I said I was. Sunday morning, if the answer’s no, we’ll have to look at it.”
Keane spent nearly £70m on 33 permanent signings following his arrival in August 2006, including big-money deals for striker Kenwyne Jones, midfielder Kieran Richardson, defender Anton Ferdinand and a club record £9m on keeper Craig Gordon.
On their return to the Premier League last season they finished in 15th place, escaping relegation by only three points.
Sunderland held a news conference at 1300 GMT in which they confirmed the departure of Keane, who himself issued a short statement.
He said: “I would like to thank my staff, players, Niall Quinn and, in particular, the fans for their support during my time at Sunderland, and I would like to wish the club every success in the future.”
One major talent from de pool go be missing now .. ::)
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What is it with managers and text messages?!? ??? ;D
Withdrawn and isolated, Keane quits Sunderland by text message
The Guardian
guardian.co.uk
Roy Keane became so introspective and elusive during the closing period of his time in charge at Sunderland that often the only way Niall Quinn could contact him was by text message. It is understood that was how his resignation as manager was initially delivered to the chairman.
Quinn handled Keane's departure with typical class, generosity and dignity yesterday. "Everybody at the club has got a huge respect for Roy," said Quinn, who stressed that Keane's motives were unselfish and that he had not demanded a pay-off. "He lifted this place off its knees," he added. "Roy Keane hasn't been sacked because we've a bad team, he's resigning because we've a good team he feels he can't bring on any further. There's a big difference there. You hear the term amicable, that's actually the way it is here."
The chairman's polished outward demeanour camouflaged the fraught reality of the preceding few days when an increasingly withdrawn Keane oscillated between a determination to try to revive the fortunes of a side that had lost six of their seven previous games and a desire to quit. Quinn initially offered his manager space over the weekend to think things through and on Sunday travelled to Portugal to "clear" his own head. Keane failed to attend any of Sunderland's training sessions this week - a not uncommon occurrence - and, when Quinn returned to England on Wednesday, the pair failed to determine a viable way forward.
Although Sunderland's board hoped Keane would continue they were concerned that he had lost the support of a dressing room harbouring constantly rotated players who seemed intimidated and alienated by their maverick and temperamental manager. A watershed occurred 10 weeks ago when Sunderland scraped past Northampton Town in the Carling Cup and individuals were shocked at the ferocity with which Keane hurled personal obscenities at them.
Keane could or would not soften his stance, though, and yesterday morning informed Quinn he was not returning. His resignation was subsequently received in a formal fax sent by his solicitor, Michael Kennedy. In an attendant statement Keane said: "I would like to thank my staff, players, Niall Quinn and, in particular, the fans for their support during my time at Sunderland and I would like to wish the club every success in the future." Last night the winger Carlos Edwards said: "The players still had full confidence in him and are kind of let down in a way."
Sam Allardyce quickly made it plain that he would welcome an invitation to manage the club he once played for and later coached at under Peter Reid. "Sunderland are a great club, so of course I'd be interested in talking to them," the former Bolton and Newcastle manager said. "I have huge respect for the chairman, Niall Quinn, and the job he has done.
Meanwhile Phil Brown, a boyhood Sunderland fan, reiterated his commitment to Hull. David O'Leary was among the other early contenders and the former West Ham manager Alan Curbishley was prominent in bookmakers' lists.
The relationship between Keane and Quinn had often been hands-off and conducted by text but gained further distance once Ellis Short, the Irish-American financier, became Sunderland's leading shareholder in September. When Short inquired why Keane had not signed a contract extension to replace the deal due to expire next June and questioned some of the manager's more eccentric and expensive buys, even the diplomatic chairman struggled to maintain harmony.
Six weeks ago things looked deceptively rosy when Sunderland beat Newcastle but already Keane was struggling to control two of his more controversial signings, Pascal Chimbonda and El Hadji Diouf, and the club subsequently slid into relegation trouble. "Roy is his harshest critic and he felt he'd completed his journey here," Quinn said. "We spent three days trying hard to find a solution but he didn't want to come unstuck any further and us find ourselves in deeper, darker territory."
The chairman suggested the stress of Premier League management had taken its toll: "Roy brought amazing standards to this club, his compelling nature changed mind-sets. But the pressure is intense."
Ricky Sbragia, the head coach, will be in charge for tomorrow's trip to Manchester United, aided by the reserve team coach Neil Bailey and the midfielder Dwight Yorke.
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Allyuh acting like this is something new.
Keane is mr. emotional. When the going get rough this is what does happen.
Remember him walking out on the Ireland team on the eve of the World Cup? How about his attack on the United youngsters prior to his being booted out of Man Utd?
This is just the latest episode from a man who incapable of keeping his emotions in check.
He make his bed let him lie on it. If you buying troublemakers like Chimbonda and Diouf, you have to be capable of dealing with them. Its the calculated risk he took and he paid the price. Many of us hear sounded the alarm bells for dressing room unrest when they were signed.
Sad thing is that Sunderland will be much worse off for this one. The only reason they were able to attract decent players up in that cold place was mostly on the basis of the Roy Keane factor. If they thought it hard to attract talent then, it will be ten times harder now.
I might not like how this story ended, but Sunderland have a whole lot to thank Keane for. He made a lasting impression on the club.
However, i would be surprised if they survive in the EPL past this season. Quinn and co have some interesting times ahead.
Depends who comes in as manager, the situation is fine in the league given at the minute 2 wins and you would probably jump 6-8 places so its very much all to play for.
Sick to death of saying it but just need to get organised, need a CH and a good defensive CM and the rest should be more than enough to survive. The midfield is too easily rolled over with too many similar type players and with a unorganised defence gets you were you are now.
tbh I struggled to understand why Keane couldn't see what the problem is/was. It was also similar last season, just have to wait and see. I don't think it will be that long before someone is appointed and I don't think there will be any shortage of takers given the freedom over team affairs, a football man as chairman and money to spend. Allardyce is already asking to be manager, hope whoever it is it is sorted quickly.
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The newspapers make up that text talk. Niall Quinn say on TV that the resignation was in person.
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so we middfleid going and have 2 coaches?
i have to say good for yorke but bye bye sa 2010 it seeiming to unlikely at this stage
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A thought enter my mind..but...i eh going and voice it....yet.
So...as assistant coach..yorke going and decide if and when he plays right?
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A thought enter my mind..but...i eh going and voice it....yet.
So...as assistant coach..yorke going and decide if and when he plays right?
I wouldn't worry too much about it, I think there will be a new manager by next weekend, the week after at the latest.
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Allardyce keen on Sunderland job.
By Soccernet staff.
Sam Allardyce has declared his interest in the Sunderland job after Roy Keane quit the club on Thursday. The former Bolton boss is favourite for the job.
Allardyce has already been installed as the bookmakers' favourite for the Stadium of Light post, even though such a switch would make him the first man to manage both Newcastle and Sunderland.
''Sunderland are a great club so of course I'd be interested in talking to them,'' said Allardyce, who quit Newcastle 10 months ago. ''I have huge respect for the chairman Niall Quinn and the job he has done.''
Allardyce, who made 25 appearances for the Black Cats in 1980/81, added in The Sun: ''I enjoyed the year I had at Sunderland and also when I did some coaching work there under Peter Reid. I also know how passionate the fans are about their team.''
Allardyce's candidacy has also been backed by Kevin Nolan, who was his captain at Bolton. ''I would definitely give the job to Sam if I was Sunderland chairman - no doubt about it,'' he said.
The club have have been inundated with applications from around the world for the manager's and David O'Leary, Alan Curbishley, Gordon Strachan and Steve McClaren are reported to be in the frame, while Dick Advocaat and Gerard Houllier are outside candidates.
Meanwhile, it has been reported that Keane became so introspective and elusive during the closing period of his time in charge at Sunderland that he could only be contacted by text message.
Indeed, it was said that this was how his resignation as manager was initially delivered to the chairman; although Quinn has denied the story.
The Irishman informed the club on Thursday morning that he was not returning and his resignation was subsequently received in a formal fax sent by his solicitor, Michael Kennedy.
In an attendant statement Keane said: "I would like to thank my staff, players, Niall Quinn and, in particular, the fans for their support during my time at Sunderland and I would like to wish the club every success in the future."
Sunderland winger Carlos Edwards said: "The players still had full confidence in him and are kind of let down in a way."
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Ferguson: Roy Keane is a controversial character.
BBC SPORTS.
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson doubts whether Roy Keane will ever return to football management.
Keane resigned as Sunderland manager on Thursday after 27 months in charge of the Black Cats and his future in the game remains unclear.
"It is difficult to say whether he will be back," said Ferguson.
"He is an incredibly controversial character. Every week he always had something to say about the game. He was the same as a player."
Ferguson, who Keane played under at Manchester United, added: "He is such an interesting character and did a decent job up there."
Keane, who had spent more than £70m on 33 players since 2006, guided the club into the Premier League during his first season as manager before keeping them there last term.
And despite recent results, which have seen Sunderland win just one of their past seven games, the Black Cats are still in a better position this year than they were at the same stage at last season.
Former team-mate and now Manchester City boss Mark Hughes believes Keane's exit may have come as a result of not taking a decent break between finishing his playing career and taking over as manager at a club.
Keane has got out and will probably not manage in the Premier League again
The 37-year-old Irishman went to Sunderland in August 2006 almost immediately after injury finished his playing career at Celtic in June of the same year.
Hughes also began his managerial career immediately but believes he was helped by the fact that his first role was as Wales boss, with the intermittent nature of the international calendar giving him time away from the game.
"You sensed in recent weeks that maybe there was a point where he was going to consider his future and walk away," said Hughes.
"He is still young and still has a future in the game, if he wants to return there is plenty of time for him to do so.
"Maybe he went from being a player to a manager too quickly.
"I think it is important to have a bit of breathing space once you stop playing and although I went straight into management it was with Wales so I still had a bit of time off. I don't think Roy had that benefit.
"He needs to take a step back, learn from the experience and go again."
However, Ferguson believes the problem is more deep rooted than that, with the pressures of management taking a greater toll than ever.
"There are very few managers that last more than three to four years at a club nowadays and the lifespan of a manager at a club is getting shorter and shorter," he said.
"They can move on to different challenges, but it's a very precarious industry nowadays and a very emotional game.
"A couple of years ago, people were saying that I should have gone four years earlier - the black flags were out!
"Football people like myself are fortunate to have been at a club for so long, though. I haven't had to go through that emotional situation."
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger expressed his surprise at Keane's resignation but believes he will make a return to management.
"It is a surprise, but I can understand it," said Wenger. "He is a passionate man, and I regret he leaves the job.
"When you are passionate, especially at the start of this career, you suffer immensely physically. Also, because he is a passionate man, there is no other way for him to be in the job.
"When you are passionate about the game, you go out of it and then come back into it because there is no other way to be happy. That is why I believe he will be back."
Another of Keane's former team-mates Paul Ince has urged for young managers to be given more time while also backing him to return to the game.
Ince himself is under pressure at Blackburn where his side have made a bad start to the season.
"He'll be back. He is a fantastic manager, but we've lost him now," said Ince.
"I've said it before, managers need time, just look at Sir Alex Ferguson.
"You can't just keep sacking young managers and putting them under pressure. We need to be backed." He is a very different type of character and is pure box office, he speaks from his heart and he is very blunt in his assessment of things.
Gary Pallister is another of Keane's former team-mates who like Hughes believes the Irishman needs a break from the sport.
"I think Mark Hughes made a very good point that he's never had a rest from football," Pallister told BBC Sport.
"He finished playing and went straight into management so I think he will enjoy a rest with his wife and his kids and recharge his batteries.
"It's very hard to second guess Roy he is very much his own man and he might decide that he is not comfortable being a manager but then he might decide he misses it."
Pallister added: "Can he find something else to occupy his mind or will he miss football that much he wants to get back into it?
"I'm not sure even he will even know - he needs a break to clearly focus on what he wants to do."
Pallister also admits that he would not be surprised if Keane left football for good.
"I honestly think he needs time to walk away and look at the bigger picture," said Pallister.
"He has a big family back in Manchester and he will look at his options and see if he wants to go back in the madhouse as Fergie (Sir Alex Ferguson) called it.
"He is a very different type of character and is pure box office, he speaks from his heart and he is very blunt in his assessment of things.
"It would be a worse footballing world without him in it because he is one of the characters that make you sit up and take notice."
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When the going get rough this is what does happen.
Like Turin '99, for example. ::)
I suppose thats why he was made the captain of his club AND country...
You don't have a clue about what you're talking about with regards to the 2002 WC and you're just recycling the same old garbage you typed regarding this issue a few months ago. There was more to it than Keane just 'walking out'. I'm not going to give you the whole story again because your head is so full of ground chaff that it would probably bounce off that black hole you call a brain (again) and evaporate into Internet oblivion...
As usual, Mr. Rent-a-Quote is here to make an ass out of himself, recycling his old material with a few opinions that he read on other forums to make himself look a bit clever. The forums very own Inspector Clouseau, bumbling around without a clue as his own predilection for irrelevancy demonstrates...
If you want a good example of someone quitting when the going gets 'tough' then look no further than Jose Mourinho...This was a man who quit because he couldn't stand up to his own chairman and then stomped his feet because United had the temerity to finish above them in the league in 2007.
obviously you have some axe to grind, so will not even bother to respond to this tripe.
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A thought enter my mind..but...i eh going and voice it....yet.
So...as assistant coach..yorke going and decide if and when he plays right?
I wouldn't worry too much about it, I think there will be a new manager by next weekend, the week after at the latest.
Yep, something like that.
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Should be a good game
United 5(Ronaldo 2 Wazza,Berba and Tevez).. Sunderland 1(Jones)
ronaldo suspended not so?
nope he served his suspension(Carling Cup mauling over Blackburn)
and i gone and drop the man from my fantasy team :o
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Yeah on mey way home from work, ah stopped by de newspaper stand by Indian or Pakistan friends :-\ at young circle, Hollywood and ah bought ah Daily Mail, as usual, first thing ah went tuh de rear tuh check out football/soccer, and who ah cud see is ah huge pic ah Keane, wid nuff gray hair on his face from stress :-\ and dey said he sent text message about his resignation and some other individual said that an official document was prepared and was or will be delivered. De bottom line is dat de man really resign yes. Ah really didn't see dat coming, cuz if is one player ah cud vow for dat is made of some steel is Keane. That say a lot people, dat being a manager in football/soccer is an extremely stressfull job. As a matter of fact being a manager in any job, is stressful tuh me.
However, Mr. Keane, you have been very good to my T&T bois, giving dem an opportunity to play top flight ball, especially de younger players (Jones and Edwards). Although at times you did pissed me off wid some of your comments towards Jack, and also about my T&T players to come home and represent their country. However, dat is nothing to hold against you, in my book, I think you have been great towards our bois. I know you have learnt a lot while being in de EPL, and you a lot to offer as a manager, so I'm sure we will see you back some time in de near future as a manager at a different club. Get some rest, take ah cruise wid de family, energise and come again ;). So wid dat said, all de best to you and your family in de future. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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5.30 GMT time, on Setanta live so there should be plenty of links as usual here is the possible ones
Streaming
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=25791&part=sports
http://www.justin.tv/directory/sports/soccer?kind=live&order=hot&lang=en
http://www.justin.tv/megaligtv
http://www.justin.tv/united_news
probably others on Justin
http://atdhe.net/live-tv-1170.html
Audio Link
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
Match News
http://www.safc.com/match/?page_id=16373&fixture=3004009
By Nick Alexander
Stand-in manager Ricky Sbragia will have to do without Craig Gordon and George McCartney against Manchester United.
Gordon is ruled out with an ankle injury while McCartney is still sidelined with a foot problem.
The Scotland goalkeeper made his comeback against Bolton last weekend after a six-week injury lay-off but suffered a recurrence of the ankle problem.
Kieran Richardson is suspended and will miss the trip to his former club.
Sbragia, who has taken charge of team affairs after Roy Keane's resignation on Thursday, said: "Craig's not available and George is the same. He's had an injection and we hope that is going to clear over the next couple of weeks."
Richardson serves a one-game ban after getting a fifth yellow card of the season against Bolton.
"We're going to miss Kieran," said Sbragia. "We just have to get on with it, we have some good players and we have to perform."
Anton Ferdinand is set to return to the side after being dropped for last weekend's game against Bolton, Keane last in charge.
Ferdinand could be up against his brother Rio who plays for United.
Sunderland (from): Fulop, Colgan, Bardsley, Chimbonda, Ferdinand, Nosworthy, Collins, Tainio, Whitehead, Edwards, Malbranque, Diouf, Miller, Leadbitter, Reid, Yorke, Cisse, Jones, Murphy, Healy.
Interesting to see the set up organisation as I have been a critic of both for a good while now. Rumours had it Keane wasn't taking notice of the coaches, (his mates gone aswell) so we shall see today if there is any improvement, although tbf with the weather (snow / ice) next to no proper training has taken place. If we get away without a hiding I will be happy, I wouldn't bet it on though. For those that don't care, shit etc I know but a couple of people do and all I do is put it up, don't force you to watch. Have a nice weekend everybody
A snippet from Drumaville about Keane, that makes little sense. Expect a new manager shortly.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...land-roy-keane
Per-Magnus Andersson, the new chairman of the company that owns Sunderland, has revealed that they were happy to see Roy Keane leave his post as the club's manager on Thursday, claiming the 37-year-old's "unstable personality" made him unsuitable for management.
"In the end the demands on him became too big, the pressure became too much," Andersson said last night. "Personally I think that he has quite an unstable personality. He is not an Alex Ferguson, which many people think. He is a bit of a maverick and he didn't succeed on the pitch because of his pit-bull mentality. He had the outlook as a player that said: 'If you knock me down I will kick you and then we can see who is still standing at the end of the game,' and that is the way he was as a coach as well."
Andersson is the president of the American asset management company Kitano Capital, which recently bought a significant percentage of the shares in Drumaville, which owns Sunderland. The Swede said last night they had given Keane the option of several new contracts but that the Irishman in the end decided he was not the right man for the club.
"We have worked hard for four weeks in order to get him to sign an extension and have given his agent several different offers," he told the website fotbollskanalen.se. "The contract issue was not the reason he quit, they were very good offers compared to what other managers are paid in the Premier League."
Keane, backed by the Sunderland chairman, Niall Quinn, spent heavily on new players last summer, taking his total outlay as manager in two years close to £70m, and there was concern among the new owners that the players were poor value for money. "I think he [Keane] is disappointed with his own performance and also felt pressure from the new owners considering the money he had spent," added Andersson. "The former owners were Irish and they were probably a bit more relaxed in their relationship with Keane because he is a legend in Ireland."
The Sunderland players, however, appear to have been taken aback by some of Keane's methods and Andersson suggests there was a clash of culture with some of the foreign players.
"The French players that we bought, such as [Djibril] Cissé, have a different mentality to what Keane has and that dynamic did not work," he said. "The players did not respond in a positive manner to Keane's coaching mentality."
Andersson went on to indicate that the club may now look abroad in their search for a new manager.
"Yes, it is likely [that they will look abroad]," he said. "We have had 60 people expressing an interest in the job since Keane left and a lot of these are foreign."
He neglects to mention probably 55 of these are off the SMB :devil:
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There were some points in this article that kinda stuck in my head whether they were popular or not
KEANE QUITS SUNDERLAND
"Hero or villain, patriot or traitor"
By Kevin Palmer
(So the Irish nation is once again gripped by the latest installment in the Roy Keane soap opera.
Empics
Keane's supporters and decriers have all had their say in a rabid Irish press.
Not for the first time in his volatile and captivating career, Keane has left a trail of wreckage in his wake as all are left to ponder whether his rapid departure as Sunderland manager on Thursday was the final episode of a drama that has been unpredictably fascinating from the off.
There may never have been a sportsman who has divided opinions like Cork's most talked-about export and as fans across Ireland who had adopted 'SunIreland' as their second team in the last couple of years got to grips with Keane's demise, the post mortems began.
To those who stand by the perception that Keano walked out on his country prior to the 2002 World Cup finals, his hasty exit as Sunderland boss was further proof that he had again been exposed a fraud whose tough guy image is not backed-up by his actions.
Then there are others who believe the Keano gospel is worthy of worship. That his each and every action on the field was justified by the fact that he was a hero whose passion to win should be admired rather than feared. In their eyes, Roy will always be a less than traditional saint.
The Irish nation tends to look towards to Eamon Dunphy to throw some perspective on events in times of a crisis like this and the man who penned Keane's best-selling autobiography in 2002 was quick to pass judgement on the character he once believed to be a friend.
Many in Ireland view Dunphy with cynicism as his determination to criticise at all costs has turned him into something of a figure of fun. However, his honesty and forthright opinion is always interesting and after claiming his former golden boy 'lost the plot' and was 'never going to be a serious manager' in the last few weeks, his epitaph for Keane the manager was considered.
"The cult of Roy Keane and everything he stood for hung heavily over the players at Sunderland," believes Dunphy. "He has been a bit of a drama queen at times and failed as a manager because he didn't know how to work with people.
"Roy went straight into a major club without doing the ground work the likes of Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley or Jose Mourinho put in. They worked their way towards the top and understand how to be a manager by the time they got there, but Roy had a lot of baggage from day one.
"Giving the Clint Eastwood stare and trying to rule by fear it doesn't work in the modern game and on top of that, and his transfer dealings have been terrible. He has got 40 players in and 40 out in his two years at Sunderland and that can hardly be viewed as stability."
Ireland legend John Giles was equally critical. Dunphy's side-kick on RTE's soccer coverage has never been convinced that Keane has earned the status he carries among some in his homeland and he admitted as much in his column in The Herald newspaper.
"I've never been able to get a handle on Roy Keane," he wrote. "I have huge admiration for him as a player and would rate him up there with the very best in the game. He had the perfect attitude to football - great leadership qualities, great mobility and utter certainty in his commitment to winning.
"But I've never understood the quirks in his personality that we have seen unfold through the years, and the one that baffles me completely is his willingness to talk so much about so many subjects and most recently, about his own future in the game.
"Apart from the questions he raised by the simple fact he was thinking in such a negative manner, he placed instability at the heart of his club at a time when there were real problems on the pitch."
The coverage in the Friday morning newspapers in Ireland summed up the dichotomy this man creates. The Irish Independent had one headline claiming Keane was: 'A warrior bowed but not defeated'. The same paper also featured an article from veteran writer James Lawton providing a withering assessment of the man in the eye of the storm.
"What he did in leaving Sunderland - and if it sounds cruel it maybe needs to be remembered that few football men have been more stridently judgmental of those around them - was run away," believes Lawton.
"He ran away from the first serious problem in some years of fine and promising work. He ran away from the £70m worth of team-strengthening with which he had been entrusted. When the hour of crisis called, Keane went missing."
Ian O'Doherty offered an alternative view in the same newspaper. "Hero or villain, patriot or traitor, the reason the debate about whether he left us in the lurch or was treated disgracefully by the tyranny of small men and their cult of mediocrity became so vociferous was because we saw in Keane a reflection of ourselves," he penned, harking back to the events at the 2002 World Cup that are so ingrained in the Irish psyche.
"His latest move was another example of Roy Keane looking out for what is best for Roy Keane, and, in many ways, that was both his strength and his ultimate weakness. No player has ever exuded quite such a degree of determination and almost suicidal belief in the cause. He was, in every sense of the word, a warrior."
A professional perspective comes from Ireland and Liverpool legend John Aldridge, who himself failed to achieve success as a top flight manager. "You have to realise that Roy will have been struggling to cope with what was a massive job at Sunderland and I would urge anyone criticising him to realise what it can do to you," says Aldo.
"I was under incredible strain in my time as Tranmere manager and felt as if I was going mad at times near the end. If Roy was letting the job get to him, he is right to get out of it."
Allsport
John Aldridge said Keane was right to get out if the job was getting to him.
A parting of the ways may have been inevitable as Sunderland's new American investor, Ellis Short, was apparently less than enamoured by the idea of giving Keane another healthy pot of cash to spend in January after his woeful transfer dealings last summer, but the notion that this warrior walked out on the club hangs over him today.
The word 'quitter' is not one Keane would want to be associated with, but his latest career move adds fuel to the fires of those who view him as such.
It is hard to know whether we ever see him back in the game again. The group of Irishmen who gave this enigma his managerial chance at Sunderland are likely to be the most supportive backers he will come across and any notion that he is in line to succeed Alex Ferguson at his beloved Manchester United can now be banished.
Theories that he had mellowed as a manager have been quashed by his predictably divisive Sunderland exit and it will take a brave chairman to appoint Roy Keane as his manager any time soon.
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I ent too sure what was worse this week...taking talk from the newcastle supporter in the office or taking talk from mih mother because of the grenada result...
I real sorry to hear this news.He was probably not more than an average EPL coach, and I think he get scared after the near escape of last year/ or let the backroom pressure get to him and went and splurge on a whole new team without realising how difficult it was going to be for them fellas to gel but I like the scene Keane was on.
Is funny how men who never had one smelly fart to give about Sunderland suddenly finding thing to say.
Anyway we will see how it unfold ...and we go see exactly how much time Yorke and Carlos getting when the new manager come in.
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The reality is Keane is the kind of person with a lot of friends and also enemies. This chapter will be written very differently by both sets, most will have an agenda one way or the other, most people that read them will agree or disagree with them depending on their perspective, liking or disliking Keane.
You have his supporters that will say bottom of the Championship to Prem and survived, the money he spent was earned by getting to the Prem, there is a lot of truth in that. They will say he walked away because he didn't want to put the club at risk and spoil what he achieved with the best interest of the club at heart.
The other side will say anybody could of done it with that kind of money / support and probably much better, which again has some truth in it. But this is also ignoring the plain fact that nobody wanted to take the job on when Keane took it on.
The truth as always is I suspect in somewhere inbetween.
To me he didn't look happy at what he was doing, I think he genuinely struggled to understand how some footballers attitudes were so different to his when playing. I think pride had a lot to do with it, his personality doesn't lend itself easily to accepting help or admitting you have got it wrong (wholeheartily), once self doubt creeps in, the next thing is paranoia and I think that was close. The club for its own reasons understandably wanted him to sign a new contract, he I don't think was sure he wanted to continue after this year, so we end up where we are.
He has done some wonderful things, brought pride, belief and hope back to a club that had forgotten what it felt like, he has also raised its profile significantly. Yes he wasted money, money the club wouldn't of had to waste without him there. So he leaves in credit which is more than can be said for most. Without a big change in his personality I can't see him returning to management unless he learns from this experience.
I would also say the Prem will be a worse place without him, although some of his comments were controversial, they also had more than a ring of truth about them, players more bothered about their wifes shopping etc, not the usual one eyed post match interviews and whinging.
Keane was neither as great or poor as people will make out, depending on which agenda they wish to follow.
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I ent too sure what was worse this week...taking talk from the newcastle supporter in the office or taking talk from mih mother because of the grenada result...
I real sorry to hear this news.He was probably not more than an average EPL coach, and I think he get scared after the near escape of last year/ or let the backroom pressure get to him and went and splurge on a whole new team without realising how difficult it was going to be for them fellas to gel but I like the scene Keane was on.
Is funny how men who never had one smelly fart to give about Sunderland suddenly finding thing to say.
Anyway we will see how it unfold ...and we go see exactly how much time Yorke and Carlos getting when the new manager come in.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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orrrite
lets
get
ready
to
RUMBLE
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=25791&part=sports
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Starting Xi:
VDS
Rafael
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra
Ronaldo
Carrick
Fletcher
Park
Rooney
Berbatov
Subs: PIG, Neville, Evans, Anderson, Giggs, Nani, Tevez
Sunderland:
Fulop
Chimbonda
Ferdinand
Collins
Bardsley
Malbranque
Whitehead
Yorke
Reid
Diouf
Cisse
Edwards and Jones on the bench
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Fergie like he jes fork up Dwight in a technical way.
Setanta (or is it Sky) jes interview him and dey was talkin about all de former Man U players dat returnin for dis game. He say "Dwight Yorke...comin back as Assistant Manager and a player...(BIG SMILE on he face and a chuckle)....he's a character"... 8)
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mind games
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Fergie like he jes fork up Dwight in a technical way.
Setanta (or is it Sky) jes interview him and dey was talkin about all de former Man U players dat returnin for dis game. He say "Dwight Yorke...comin back as Assistant Manager and a player...(BIG SMILE on he face and a chuckle)....he's a character"... 8)
Never liked Fergie, he even diss Keane yesterday... I wish Yorke put one on them..... dissing his own men who once slave for him.
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GAME ON.........
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Fergie like he jes fork up Dwight in a technical way.
Setanta (or is it Sky) jes interview him and dey was talkin about all de former Man U players dat returnin for dis game. He say "Dwight Yorke...comin back as Assistant Manager and a player...(BIG SMILE on he face and a chuckle)....he's a character"... 8)
Never liked Fergie, he even diss Keane yesterday... I wish Yorke put one on them..... dissing his own men who once slave for him.
that is the main characteristic of ManBoo people :devil:
look how they reacted when swan dive boy was rumoured to leave this summer
"today" he is their HERO :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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yorke is ah boss
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I think Keane had sucess too early in his managing duties... and when he advanced against the big boys, his inexprience was magnified... he also couldn't deal with loosing and was unable to handle (control) his side...
he'll be back until he gets it right.
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wonderful save keeper
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Fergie like he jes fork up Dwight in a technical way.
Setanta (or is it Sky) jes interview him and dey was talkin about all de former Man U players dat returnin for dis game. He say "Dwight Yorke...comin back as Assistant Manager and a player...(BIG SMILE on he face and a chuckle)....he's a character"... 8)
Never liked Fergie, he even diss Keane yesterday... I wish Yorke put one on them..... dissing his own men who once slave for him.
I think he genuinely likes Yorkie and wasn't intendijng to "diss him" per se but I feel in Fergie mind, Yorkie is still too much of a playboy & not experienced enough as an assistant manager and too old as a player to be taken too seriously in either role. Hopefully Dwight proves him wrong again. 8)
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He know dwight so well ,we could have no idea what he could be thinking .
Fulop doing great for Sund .
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has the ball crossed the half line as yet :devil:
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oh god boy,total one sided affair.sunderland still in de dressin room.
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I think dwight implementing trini s WC tactics .we need Carlos for some runs
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day wearing dong Manu U
watch in de second half :devil: :devil:
:rotfl:
aaaappppsss................de ball cross de half :D
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0-0 HT.... ONLY 45+ TO GO..... Fulop saving them..... boys against men
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lets go sunderland!
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lets go sunderland!
they gettin bout 5 in they ass in de 2nd half.
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wait nah... I wasn't paying attention but I sure I now here ah commercial where they bawl,
make sure to call 1-800-HARD-WOOD :rotfl:
anybody hear dat :rotfl:
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lets go sunderland!
they gettin bout 5 in they ass in de 2nd half.
promises promises
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Embarrassing ...sadly realistic relegation candidates ...sheez diouf is simply.....horrific
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Embarrassing ...sadly realistic relegation candidates ...sheez diouf is simply.....horrific
i actually appreciate what Sunderland is doing/trying to do in this game... they containing Man U commendably so far.. at least in dat facet of de game
If it was trinidad playing ppl woulda be breaking on theyself
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If it was trinidad playing ppl woulda be breaking on theyself
Exactly.
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If it was trinidad playing ppl woulda be breaking on theyself
Exactly.
People "breaking on deyself" still wouldn't conceal the absolute lack of quality and ideas on this team.
Fulop is the only Sunderland player of note today.
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KJ on..
this game shaping up like de kinda game where sunderland could steal a late winner.
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If it was trinidad playing ppl woulda be breaking on theyself
Exactly.
People "breaking on deyself" still wouldn't conceal the absolute lack of quality and ideas on this team.
Didn't hide it in the World Cup either. I ain't see nobody call that 'embarassing' though.
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If it was trinidad playing ppl woulda be breaking on theyself
Exactly.
People "breaking on deyself" still wouldn't conceal the absolute lack of quality and ideas on this team.
Fulop is the only Sunderland player of note today.
Thank you captain obvious!
Of course Sunderland isn't in Man U's class ::)
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Carlos on for Whitehead.
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10+ to go..... 0-0 still WOW
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Alright! squeaky bum time!!
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sunderland suffering an onslaught..
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MY GOD!!!! :o :o
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this is a cricket score as predicted.....................
of West Indies standards!
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somebody pass this for kev and the venerable one
(http://www.firstaidmonster.com/images/products/FAM_KLEENEX_TISSUE125_PLY-7430.jpg)
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van de sar playing first stopper :rotfl:
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somebody pass this for kev and the venerable one
(http://www.firstaidmonster.com/images/products/FAM_KLEENEX_TISSUE125_PLY-7430.jpg)
:beermug: here Kev you may need a full case
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what is the score people??
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Sunderland playing they heart out alldough they are the underdogs.
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van de sar playing first stopper :rotfl:
The crowd bawling for Van der Sar to shoot when he get de ball :rotfl:
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0-0...
they should put kenwyne on the half line and just voom it up de road
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Is still 0-0 in injury time 90+4
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KJ ftw!!!!
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kenwyne just breed ah man and put him to sit down.
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squirttttt rite on they screen
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oppps 1-0 Manu in injury time first min
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oh gawd!! >:(
well fantasy points for de least
VIDIC!!!! ;D
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good game sunderland good fight
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lol :rotfl: lol finally
manu players woulda stayed on the pitch till fergie left if they drew this game
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shit goal from shit team.
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oh gawwwwwwwwwwd....
deflection off Carlos to hit the post and Vidic run in to finish.
I prescribe a boiled concoction of vervine, senna bush, mauby bark, goat weed and chicken foot.
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1-0 FT MoM should be Fulop (Sun GP)
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1-0 to Man U at the death, is so it does always go eh.
The ball deflect off Ferdinand, the man on TV call it wrong.
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oh gawwwwwwwwwwd....
deflection off Carlos to hit the post and Vidic run in to finish.
I prescribe a boiled concoction of vervine, senna bush, mauby bark, goat weed and chicken foot.
rflmao goat weed allyuh go kill me dead yes
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good coaching Yorke...all the Trinis sweating now
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somebody pass this for kev and the venerable one
(http://www.firstaidmonster.com/images/products/FAM_KLEENEX_TISSUE125_PLY-7430.jpg)
:beermug: here Kev you may need a full case
Not really lads, today anything but a hiding was a bonus.
I don't really understand a couple on this thread, the team has just had a hiding off Bolton at home, lost its manager, is low on confidence and hasn't trained all week what else do you expect? The last thing the team needed was a hiding, a respectable scoreline is all that was required following last weeks debacle.
I think the winner just sums up how its gone a bit this season, when the gods against you it works like that. Manu didn't have that many clear cut chances 2nd half. Happy enough, hopefully get a new manager a couple of weeks to sort out a team a couple of players in Jan and it should be fine, I hope the luck changes a bit but thats life. :)
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Thank you captain obvious!
Of course Sunderland isn't in Man U's class ::)
You need to check either your eyes or your comprehension... no one said anything about Sunderland being in ManU's class.
Sunderland has hardly displayed ANY class since joining the EPL, which is the central point being made. If not for the Trinis on this shit squad nobody on here would give a mangy rat's ass about them. The presence of Trinis on the team doesn't change the fact that it's a shit team.
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Lord dat is a hard lost at least d deflection was not of Carlos but Omar save d potion d season young
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Thank you captain obvious!
Of course Sunderland isn't in Man U's class ::)
You need to check either your eyes or your comprehension... no one said anything about Sunderland being in ManU's class.
Sunderland has hardly displayed ANY class since joining the EPL, which is the central point being made. If not for the Trinis on this shit squad nobody on here would give a mangy rat's ass about them. The presence of Trinis on the team doesn't change the fact that it's a shit team.
De presence of Trinis on the T&T team doesn't change that fact either. We still support them to the fullest. The irony of any T&T fan hating on a 'shit' team trying to make it...
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Thank you captain obvious!
Of course Sunderland isn't in Man U's class ::)
You need to check either your eyes or your comprehension... no one said anything about Sunderland being in ManU's class.
Sunderland has hardly displayed ANY class since joining the EPL, which is the central point being made. If not for the Trinis on this shit squad nobody on here would give a mangy rat's ass about them. The presence of Trinis on the team doesn't change the fact that it's a shit team.
I know that BnS but put it into perspective Sunderland have spent as much on the in teh last 3 seasons as Liverpool spent on Torres, Kean and Babel combined.
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Not really lads, today anything but a hiding was a bonus.
I don't really understand a couple on this thread, the team has just had a hiding off Bolton at home, lost its manager, is low on confidence and hasn't trained all week what else do you expect? The last thing the team needed was a hiding, a respectable scoreline is all that was required following last weeks debacle.
I think the winner just sums up how its gone a bit this season, when the gods against you it works like that. Manu didn't have that many clear cut chances 2nd half. Happy enough, hopefully get a new manager a couple of weeks to sort out a team a couple of players in Jan and it should be fine, I hope the luck changes a bit but thats life. :)
Sunderland had an opportunity to try their hand at a victory after Kenwyne won them a corner late... instead they decided to play for the draw. Maybe that was practical on their part in trying to kill time... but the effort was hardly worth the 5 extra seconds they burned off the clock. It's hard to be sympathetic to a squad like that.
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ah guess is true ..god really doh like ugly ...that was really tough ,kenwyne was the only man attack them,they shoulda kill the time with the corner in hind sight .
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Not really lads, today anything but a hiding was a bonus.
I don't really understand a couple on this thread, the team has just had a hiding off Bolton at home, lost its manager, is low on confidence and hasn't trained all week what else do you expect? The last thing the team needed was a hiding, a respectable scoreline is all that was required following last weeks debacle.
I think the winner just sums up how its gone a bit this season, when the gods against you it works like that. Manu didn't have that many clear cut chances 2nd half. Happy enough, hopefully get a new manager a couple of weeks to sort out a team a couple of players in Jan and it should be fine, I hope the luck changes a bit but thats life. :)
Sunderland had an opportunity to try their hand at a victory after Kenwyne won them a corner late... instead they decided to play for the draw. Maybe that was practical on their part in trying to kill time... but the effort was hardly worth the 5 extra seconds they burned off the clock. It's hard to be sympathetic to a squad like that.
There is only one place you find Sympathy and that's between Shit and Syphilis in the dictionary.
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kill the game with what corner?
its called not being naive. Sunderland was holding on for dear life at that point.
When you play manchester united away after the most turbulent phase of your season and are lucky enough to be at 0-0 with minutes to go, you don't play stupid and greedy and try for a win.
Put Kenwyne plus more than 2 more players in the pk box for that corner, and all that would happen is as soon as Man United clear the corner you give them the opportunity to launch a quick counter attack. They did the right thing trying to play down the clock for the draw.
Anything at Old Trafford for a bottom feeder is bonus.
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De presence of Trinis on the T&T team doesn't change that fact either. We still support them to the fullest. The irony of any T&T fan hating on a 'shit' team trying to make it...
It's kinda hard to make a case that I'm 'hating' on the team when everything I say is objective in itself. The team currently resides three or four spots from bottom and has consistently struggled to find its footing since being promoted. It's a bit of a reach to call that hating... but then again, I'm sure in your monkey world that makes sense.
I know that BnS but put it into perspective Sunderland have spent as much on the in teh last 3 seasons as Liverpool spent on Torres, Kean and Babel combined.
I'm not trying to be unsympathetic... but how does that change anything that I said concerning their quality? No one's disputing the fact that there might be legitimate reasons for that lack of quality.
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Nemanjaaa Woahhhhh Nemanja Woah oh oh ohhhhhhh
He Comes From Serbia!
He'll f**king Muder Ya!
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united fight hard fuh victory and well deserved,but i expected ah better showin from sunderland.just to big meh boys.
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Thank you captain obvious!
Of course Sunderland isn't in Man U's class ::)
You need to check either your eyes or your comprehension... no one said anything about Sunderland being in ManU's class.
Sunderland has hardly displayed ANY class since joining the EPL, which is the central point being made. If not for the Trinis on this shit squad nobody on here would give a mangy rat's ass about them. The presence of Trinis on the team doesn't change the fact that it's a shit team.
Thanks again captain....
jesus...
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The presence of Trinis on the team doesn't change the fact that it's a shit team.[/b]
Thanks again captain....
jesus...
If you concede that it's 'obvious' that Sunderland is a shit team then yuh shouldn't get yuh panties in a knot when people criticize them.
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De presence of Trinis on the T&T team doesn't change that fact either. We still support them to the fullest. The irony of any T&T fan hating on a 'shit' team trying to make it...
It's kinda hard to make a case that I'm 'hating' on the team when everything I say is objective in itself.
Yes. Let's pretend your 'objective' evaluation is totally devoid of animus.
Let's also pretend I'm married to the moon and have five rows of teeth like sharks.
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talk about multitaskin....lordy
is 3 or 4 dimfront fronts at once
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The presence of Trinis on the team doesn't change the fact that it's a shit team.[/b]
Thanks again captain....
jesus...
If you concede that it's 'obvious' that Sunderland is a shit team then yuh shouldn't get yuh panties in a knot when people criticize them.
my panties in a knot...
and i need to check my comprehension... lol
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Yes. Let's pretend your 'objective' evaluation is totally devoid of animus.
Let's also pretend I'm married to the moon and have five rows of teeth like sharks.
We could also pretend that you have some sort of rationale to support this nonsense 'animus' talk... but like all your other arguments that too is wanting. Keane is a blowhard and the team has lacked quality from day one. It can't be all about money because Hull (among others) have found ways to do better under similar constraints. That's about the length and breadth of my "animus"... but maybe you just needed an excuse to tell us about your personal life and dental affliction.
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kenwyne just breed ah man and put him to sit down.
You mean bundle into someone and get a corner. Because thats what he did. You talk as if he's Messi jinking his way past a group of players. :rotfl:
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United were plodding for long spells until Anderson injected some life into the midfield. Ronaldo was fairly quiet and Tevez did more in twenty minutes than the rather static Berbatov managed for the entire ninety. I mean, he scores a hat-trick on Wednesday and his reward is to be benched. The crowd reaction to him coming on said it all...he should be starting most games.
Sunderland got what they deserved, they came for one thing...0-0. They showed no real ambition and were quite content to sit back and run the clock down whenever they got the chance. At least Sunderland came to Old Trafford last year and gave them a game. United deserved their goal because they were the only ones pushing for one. If only they had shown this level of grit and determination when Keane was there...he might not have walked, therein lies the irony.
1-0, three points and still in touch going into Xmas...
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We could also pretend that you have some sort of rationale to support this nonsense 'animus' talk
Do you even know what 'animus' means?
Go on, give it a whirl...without Googling...
Don't worry, he wasn't calling you an 'anus'...because thats what I'm about to do...
Anus.
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thanks for the entertainment fellahs, ah screw up Tivoing manu v sunderland, ah log on to get the score and jump right into dis baccahnal...i must say ah cringed when ah man ask Bakes bout knowing de meaning of a word???
oh, and Sunderland is ah effing sh*& side, is all i could do to watch dem even if kenwyne dem playing far less for if they weren't.
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i cyah believe men still talking bout this game. I was real sour up until the end when we finally scored.
anyhow
Allyuh feel tevez getting salts for comments he made in the summer transfer about letting ronaldo go to real?
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We could also pretend that you have some sort of rationale to support this nonsense 'animus' talk
Do you even know what 'animus' means?
Go on, give it a whirl...without Googling...
Don't worry, he wasn't calling you an 'anus'...because thats what I'm about to do...
Anus.
You're trying awfully hard to make both yourself and "anus" a part of the conversation... which is really redundant when you think of it.
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Fyzo yuh ent miss nutten nah dred... not even Kenwyne's li'l 20 mins made de exercise worthwhile.
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We could also pretend that you have some sort of rationale to support this nonsense 'animus' talk
Do you even know what 'animus' means?
Go on, give it a whirl...without Googling...
Don't worry, he wasn't calling you an 'anus'...because thats what I'm about to do...
Anus.
You're trying awfully hard to make both yourself and "anus" a part of the conversation... which is really redundant when you think of it.
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Fyzo yuh ent miss nutten nah dred... not even Kenwyne's li'l 20 mins made de exercise worthwhile.
yeah boy Sky Sports just show highlights and had to kinda apologize and say dat Sunderland didn't have ah shots on goal.
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I ent too sure what was worse this week...taking talk from the newcastle supporter in the office or taking talk from mih mother because of the grenada result...
I real sorry to hear this news.He was probably not more than an average EPL coach, and I think he get scared after the near escape of last year/ or let the backroom pressure get to him and went and splurge on a whole new team without realising how difficult it was going to be for them fellas to gel but I like the scene Keane was on.
Is funny how men who never had one smelly fart to give about Sunderland suddenly finding thing to say.
Anyway we will see how it unfold ...and we go see exactly how much time Yorke and Carlos getting when the new manager come in.
I eh know? Somewhere between harsh and premature? ... Decided to have a look based on my view of the man's actual peer group ... bolded below.
Arsenal
Arsène Wenger (France)
Aston Villa
Martin O’Neill (Scotland)
Blackburn Rovers
Paul Ince (England)
Bolton Wanderers
Gary Megson (England)
Chelsea
Luiz Felipe Scolari (Brazil)
Everton
David Moyes (Scotland)
Fulham
Roy Hodgson (England)
Hull City
Phil Brown (England)
Liverpool
Rafa Benítez (Spain)
Man City
Mark Hughes (Wales)
Man United
Alex Ferguson (Scotland)
Middlesbrough
Gareth Southgate (England)
Newcastle United
Joe Kinnear (Ireland)
Portsmouth
Tony Adams (England)
Stoke City
Tony Pulis (Wales)
Sunderland
Keane ... Ricky Sbragia (Scotland)
Tottenham Hotspurs
Harry Redknapp (England)
West Brom Albion
Tony Mowbray (England)
West Ham United
Gianfranco Zola (Italy)
Wigan Athletic
Steve Bruce (England)
Now lehwe look at de most current standings at time of posting ...
1.Liverpool 16 15 37
2 Chelsea 16 29 36
3 Man Utd 15 17 31
4 Arsenal 16 9 29
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5 Hull 16 -1 26
6 Aston Villa 15 6 25
7 Everton 15 -2 22
8 Portsmouth 15 -4 22 ... Adams in for Harry late Octoiber
9 Fulham 15 1 20
10 Bolton 16 -1 20
11 Wigan 16 -2 19
12 Middlesbrough 16 -7 19
13 Stoke 16 -10 19
14 Man City 16 6 18
15 West Ham 15 -5 18 ... Zola came in for Curbishley early September
16 Newcastle 16 -5 16
17 Tottenham 15 -4 15
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18 Sunderland 16 -12 15
19 Blackburn 16 -14 13
20 West Brom
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Yeah sunderland looked and played weak, no heart at all, thats why keane walked out on them. Hull, Stroke and West Brom all showed more fight in them, sunderland just defended with 9 men behind d ball and 1 up top.
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Yeah sunderland looked and played weak, no heart at all, thats why keane walked out on them. Hull, Stroke and West Brom all showed more fight in them, sunderland just defended with 9 men behind d ball and 1 up top.
Like Trinidad vs Sweden... no heart at all ::)
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Yeah sunderland looked and played weak, no heart at all, thats why keane walked out on them. Hull, Stroke and West Brom all showed more fight in them, sunderland just defended with 9 men behind d ball and 1 up top.
Like Trinidad vs Sweden... no heart at all ::)
Kill you dead yuh rather go down in flames trying to compare TnT (WC 2006) to that shit side yesterday, rather than admit what you self concede is 'obvious'.
At least in Germany we were able to threaten Sweden on more than a couple occasions... including Glen hitting the post early. Showing "heart", "fight" etc. is about more than pulling everybody into your defensive third and hoofing long. How many shots on goal did Sunderland have yesterday?
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Yeah sunderland looked and played weak, no heart at all, thats why keane walked out on them. Hull, Stroke and West Brom all showed more fight in them, sunderland just defended with 9 men behind d ball and 1 up top.
Like Trinidad vs Sweden... no heart at all ::)
Kill you dead yuh rather go down in flames trying to compare TnT (WC 2006) to that shit side yesterday, rather than admit what you self concede is 'obvious'.
At least in Germany we were able to threaten Sweden on more than a couple occasions... including Glen hitting the post early. Showing "heart", "fight" etc. is about more than pulling everybody into your defensive third and hoofing long. How many shots on goal did Sunderland have yesterday?
pardner please go all de way back where i commended Sunderlands defensive fortitude and effort.. and I particularly highlighted THAT facet of de game...
Lately Sunderlands problems have been defensive... so with de circumstances going into de game.. I think Sunderlands game plan wasn't too bad... It make for an exciting game in de end.. and dey plan almost work..
What wrong with being ah shit side in ah David and Goliath match up? aka Trinidad at de world Cup.. dat is where de comparison end
and ps in my opinion dem fellas show heart... some fellas more than others
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Yeah sunderland looked and played weak, no heart at all, thats why keane walked out on them. Hull, Stroke and West Brom all showed more fight in them, sunderland just defended with 9 men behind d ball and 1 up top.
Like Trinidad vs Sweden... no heart at all ::)
Kill you dead yuh rather go down in flames trying to compare TnT (WC 2006) to that shit side yesterday, rather than admit what you self concede is 'obvious'.
At least in Germany we were able to threaten Sweden on more than a couple occasions... including Glen hitting the post early. Showing "heart", "fight" etc. is about more than pulling everybody into your defensive third and hoofing long. How many shots on goal did Sunderland have yesterday?
Name a second occasion. As a man who deal only in unbiased fact, I'm sure you have that info at your fingertips before you typed.
Let's see if your memory works better than mentioning an early shot by a man who come on during the second half.
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pardner please go all de way back where i commended Sunderlands defensive fortitude and effort.. and I particularly highlighted THAT facet of de game...
Lately Sunderlands problems have been defensive... so with de circumstances going into de game.. I think Sunderlands game plan wasn't too bad... It make for an exciting game in de end.. and dey plan almost work..
What wrong with being ah shit side in ah David and Goliath match up? aka Trinidad at de world Cup.. dat is where de comparison end
and ps in my opinion dem fellas show heart... some fellas more than others
I have no argument with that if that's yuh position... I agree that defensively they tried their best and gave commendable effort.
Really and truly I can't point to any one man who didn't give effort, I particularly have to hand it to Fulop and Chimbonda on defense, Whitehead in midfield (although he was out of his league, out-classed and out-paced whole game) and Cisse up front. Chimbonda and Fulop had their hands full (Ferdinand to some degree too) but they did their best under trying circumstances. Yorke to me had a forgettable game, but nothing that I'd fault his effort on... Cisse didn't make much of a note but he did hustle after every ball that came his way... Kenwyne as well, but he probably needed more time to really leave any kind of a mark beyond winning the late corner.
Diouf was about the only real goat fuh me yesterday.
Name a second occasion. As a man who deal only in unbiased fact, I'm sure you have that info at your fingertips before you typed.
Let's see if your memory works better than mentioning an early shot by a man who come on during the second half.
Ay aye... Monkey yuh reach back? Whether mih memory was perfect or not my point has been proved. But ah was waiting fuh yuh tuh come substantiate yuh "animus" claim... whappen yuh too busy performing fuh bananas or what?
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Ay aye... Monkey yuh reach back? Whether mih memory was perfect or not my point has been proved. But ah was waiting fuh yuh tuh come substantiate yuh "animus" claim... whappen yuh too busy performing fuh bananas or what?
Steups. Just because a man tell you not to use Google doh mean you had to listen.
animus n. An attitude that informs one's actions; disposition.
animus n. Basic attitude or governing spirit : disposition , intention
animus n. An animating force or underlying purpose; intention
Whether it's because of your dislike for Keane, or because you're tweaked by bandwagon Trini fans, you're being disingenuous by pretending your comments are totally objective. You feel some kinda way. Somebody who really doh care doh constantly chook their mouth in.
Also... you ain't prove nothing. Remember this debate started with comparisons to TT v Sweden. And you still can't give me the "more than a couple occasions" we threatened the Swedish goal. Carlos had one shot into the keeper arms and Cornell hit de bar. That's a couple. There was no "more than..." Our performance that day was just as offensively ineffective as the Sunderland display against Man U.
So again... if that was T&T, man woulda be breaking on deyself.
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So again... if that was T&T, man woulda be breaking on deyself.
Some woulda been breakin', others woulda be bawlin' that if Latas had get a sweat we woulda run rings round dem... ;D
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Steups. Just because a man tell you not to use Google doh mean you had to listen.
animus n. An attitude that informs one's actions; disposition.
animus n. Basic attitude or governing spirit : disposition , intention
animus n. An animating force or underlying purpose; intention
Nice way tuh try and be selective with the definitions...
–noun
1. strong dislike or enmity; hostile attitude; animosity.
2. purpose; intention; animating spirit.
3. (in the psychology of C. G. Jung) the masculine principle, esp. as present in women (contrasted with anima ).
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/animus
Now since you accused me of 'hating'... and sought to back that up by accusing me of having 'animus' let's use your words and see which is the best fit:
Yes. Let's pretend your 'objective' evaluation is totally devoid of purpose.
Yes. Let's pretend your 'objective' evaluation is totally devoid of strong dislike.
Yes. Let's pretend your 'objective' evaluation is totally devoid of the masculine principle.
Which of the bolded is most akin to 'hating'? Righto.
Keep them silly-ass mind tricks fuh people down on your evolutionary level fella, you ent ready yet...still have a couple eons to go.
Whether it's because of your dislike for Keane, or because you're tweaked by bandwagon Trini fans, you're being disingenuous by pretending your comments are totally objective. You feel some kinda way. Somebody who really doh care doh constantly chook their mouth in.
Also... you ain't prove nothing. Remember this debate started with comparisons to TT v Sweden.
I think you need to start taking yuh Chimpo Biloba and yuh Apeseng because cleary yuh memory fading.
The debate started with a comparison to TnT (at the WC 2006)... there was no mention of Sweden whatsoever.
If it was trinidad playing ppl woulda be breaking on theyself
Didn't hide it in the World Cup either. I ain't see nobody call that 'embarassing' though.
Trinidad musta played Sweden three times at the World Cup.
There is no way you compare that shit side yesterday (hustle or no hustle) to Trinidad's collective performance at the WC.
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Steups. Just because a man tell you not to use Google doh mean you had to listen.
animus n. An attitude that informs one's actions; disposition.
animus n. Basic attitude or governing spirit : disposition , intention
animus n. An animating force or underlying purpose; intention
Nice way tuh try and be selective with the definitions...
Ahm... yes. That's what people do when a word has several meanings.
Just like you selectively ignored the ones I supplied and based the rest of your hot gas on the ones you felt like.
Talk some more. Show how much you don't care.
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I ent too sure what was worse this week...taking talk from the newcastle supporter in the office or taking talk from mih mother because of the grenada result...
I real sorry to hear this news.He was probably not more than an average EPL coach, and I think he get scared after the near escape of last year/ or let the backroom pressure get to him and went and splurge on a whole new team without realising how difficult it was going to be for them fellas to gel but I like the scene Keane was on.
Is funny how men who never had one smelly fart to give about Sunderland suddenly finding thing to say.
Anyway we will see how it unfold ...and we go see exactly how much time Yorke and Carlos getting when the new manager come in.
I eh know? Somewhere between harsh and premature? ... Decided to have a look based on my view of the man's actual peer group ... bolded below.
You misread my post.
I wasn't knocking Keane. I don't think he was a bad EPL coach, and above average EPL coaches are few and far between (Wenger, Ferguson, Mourinho, Keegan (?) are probably the only 3 i could nthink of in recent history) So he was MOST PROBABLY an average EPL coach...
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They should not feel bad they on d same pts as Tottenham
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They should not feel bad they on d same pts as Tottenham
not anymore...Tottenham beat West Ham 2-0 yesterday...
they on a roll right now with Redknapp at the helm
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Well I was watchin d standings posted in d thread could 4 dem. They give me much joy in meh days on a sat mornin. So always have a lil soft spot 4 dem
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British clubs must stop falling for ex factor
Tony Cascarino
The Times
December 17, 2008
Chairmen in England are taken in by fame. In Europe, what matters most is a coach’s qualifications and CV. Want a job in this country? It’s about who your friends are and how good a player you were. Look at Roy Keane, Gareth Southgate, Tony Adams, Paul Merson, Paul Ince, to name a few who moved swiftly from pitch to dugout.
They have managed with varying degrees of success, but all have this in common: when they were appointed, their clubs knew all about the calibre of player they were, but could only guess at the quality of manager they might become.
When Niall Quinn was looking for someone to take charge of Sunderland in 2006, he said he wanted a world-class manager. He appointed a world-class player: Keane, who had never managed before. That kind of thinking is not unusual.
It is far too easy to become a manager in this country — part of a general lack of respect for coaching badges and experience that you do not see on the Continent, where sound theoretical knowledge is expected, even at small clubs. Only in the past few years have courses been taken more seriously, but there is still a way to go.
There remains a laziness among former players that is absent in other European leagues. Too often the attitude is: ‘Why should I study the game? I played it for 20 years.’ And as long as clubs are prepared to take a punt on rookies, the incentive to spend years training as a coach is not there. Despite the complaints of the League Managers Association, clubs continue to employ untested managers with few qualifications who have often been fast-tracked through their courses.
But lots of former players do not realise how hard the job is. During their playing careers, it never occurred to them that managers work 24/7 and need a broad range of skills. While chairmen may be awestruck in the presence of a once great player, respect for the reputation of a new manager doesn’t last more than a few minutes in the dressing-room.
You only have to look at the Barclays Premier League table to know there is a problem with the career development of British managers because Sir Alex Ferguson is the only one in charge of a “big four” club, and that is not about to change. No home-grown manager was deemed good enough to replace Steve McClaren for England. At the very highest level, chairmen look abroad.
Learning on the job is a tall order because it is so demanding and there is such pressure for instant success. It was not a surprise that Ince looked out of his depth at Blackburn Rovers, up against shrewd veterans most weeks. Anyone can fail — look at Phil Brown at Derby County before he joined Hull City. But Ince never appeared to have an overall vision at Blackburn. They never seemed to have an identity or unity as they did under Mark Hughes. Tactics were not right — contrast the way Blackburn lost tamely to Chelsea at home with how West Ham United’s game plan secured them a point at Stamford Bridge on Sunday.
But then it’s not Ince’s fault, he is in a system where it’s too simple for inexperienced managers to get high-level positions. Ince will feel he deserved more time, but 17 league games is plenty and on the Continent, where chairmen are more ruthless, he would have been replaced sooner. Now he can go away, analyse what went wrong and resolve to come back wiser at a smaller club.
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Off out early today so no team news sorry.
Its on a couple of Channels so should be able to get a link that works for those interested.
Possible Video Links
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=28589&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/live-tv-2409.html
http://the-success.blogspot.com/
Audio Link
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
(Sorry about the wrong link last week, but its the same link every week)
Malbranque will be a miss, would be happy with a draw.
KJ put himself about a bit a lot more like his old self last week as he is probably getting as near as damn it 100%. Hope all the speculation inspires one of his unplayable performances today. O'Neill was asked about him in his prematch conference and he changed the subject quickly so it looked to me anyway he is interested in Kenwyne. Given his style is totally different to Redknapp I would of thought he has watched the response and will either put in a quiet bid or leave it to the summer.
Today really shows how tight the league is a win possibly in the top 10 a loss possibly in relegation zone, strange season by anyones standards.
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Game showing well w/2nd link, Carlos delivered a free kick which Collins headed in, Sunderland up 1-0
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Game showing well w/2nd link, Carlos delivered a free kick which Collins headed in, Sunderland up 1-0
Carlos + cross = Goal!!! :devil:
yuh sure :P
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wait nuh.. i seeing right?
is a regulation trim Cisse sporting there?
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Game showing well w/2nd link, Carlos delivered a free kick which Collins headed in, Sunderland up 1-0
Carlos + cross = Goal!!! :devil:
yuh sure :P
Actually, of the little opportunities Carlos had to deliver crosses they were all on point and of course one leading to the goal
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well done by edwards. happy for him
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just a side note:
Scotty on target again and Birchy started for Brighton :beermug:
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what time this gaming starting US time
Game showing well w/2nd link, Carlos delivered a free kick which Collins headed in, Sunderland up 1-0
Carlos + cross = Goal!!! :devil:
yuh sure :P
Actually, of the little opportunities Carlos had to deliver crosses they were all on point and of course one leading to the goal
Well, they were mostly on point. His very first cross was a mess. But other than that, I love that he getting to shut up some doubters.
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wait nuh.. i seeing right?
is a regulation trim Cisse sporting there?
ent..man lookin normal
like he does drive a maxi
all de men who say carlos cyah cross...he come out for allyuh today
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Edwards playing like a boss right now who said he couldn't cross again? he been on target with all his crosses so far hope not to jinx the man.
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what time this gaming starting US time
Game showing well w/2nd link, Carlos delivered a free kick which Collins headed in, Sunderland up 1-0
Carlos + cross = Goal!!! :devil:
yuh sure :P
Actually, of the little opportunities Carlos had to deliver crosses they were all on point and of course one leading to the goal
Well, they were mostly on point. His very first cross was a mess. But other than that, I love that he getting to shut up some doubters.
Missed the 1st 10 mins of the 1st half, but he just delivered another telling one, maybe he's been working on this aspect of his game in practice, looks completely antithetical to the person who's crossing has been critqued on this forum
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Sunderland in trouble now. McShane in for Nosworthy. No more pace in defence to handle Young and them.
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thanks 4 da links!!
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Sunderland in trouble now. McShane in for Nosworthy. No more pace in defence to handle Young and them.
No more Young, straight red for rash challenge
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if allyuh see that sweet cross Carlos now put in with his LEFT FOOT and Cisse throw away.
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where just cool?
this forkin mcshane shoulda stay at Hull yes. >:(
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McShane strikes again.
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if allyuh see that sweet cross Carlos now put in with his LEFT FOOT and Cisse throw away.
Carlos stamping his claim on a starting spot. Glad for him. Especially after the negativity I was reading before de game on dem Sunderland boards.
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real action from the 75th to 80th minute oui
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edwards blazing ah fire for all who not watching.
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de link buss for anybody else of just me??... at the 86th minute
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link gone for me too
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Just get some ah dat fire 4 oui.
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Yea it dead at the 86 min for me too but wow edwards really showing he a premier league player. For all the doubters out there.
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Hand ball shout after a Carlos shot in penalty area
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the game freeze
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Edwards playing like a boss right now who said he couldn't cross again? he been on target with all his crosses so far hope not to jinx the man.
Me ,and he should work on that shit .
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Hope de ref have an escort service out of de stadium of light, some awful calls against Sunderland, football
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Hope de ref have an escort service out of de stadium of light, some awful calls against Sunderland, football
To be fair like the commentators say...he woulda never see dat hand ball that score the villa equalizer....but still dat eh go stop D batteries from flyin at he head
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Neither of those two goals were goals. The first one was a handball. The second one... de man was offside for pass, plus de foul was outside de area.
I thought Keane was the jinx, but it seems like Sunderland just badlucky with refs.
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anyhow the link buss but my boy edwards was top class today
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Carlos was man of the match for me today.
Anytime he got the ball on the wing he was a threat. Sometimes he got cornered and turn around and swung in some brilliant balls with the left foot and Cisse and Kenwyne shouldve done better with the food that was being put on the table before them.
Also put in some telling free kicks and long throws.
They lose this game because of McShane with he wildness. A full bodied swipe, miss the whole ball and kick dong agbonlahor. A next one of the Irish driftwood Keane bring with him..
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McShane is the jinx. Pure wildness not much of anything else
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Well I just got back in and left scratching my head a bit.
I thought we played well despite Richardson missing unexpectantly, the tempo was better didn't give them anytime and really controlled the game 1st half and should of put it to bed.
Their 1st goal was handball, but Collins had concussion ( I think) and had gone missing ( not his fault really) for the cross.
Their 2nd goal the guy looked offside to start with to me and there is no way the ref could see if that was in the area or not from where he was, tbh I couldn't tell from where I was sitting.
Interestly the ref Dean and 1 linesman was the same as the West Ham match where they managed to miss to headlock on Kenwyne stone wall penalty and the Cisse foul debatable penalty sending off. Thats not the only occasions Dean has got important decisions wrong against us lately either.
Should of really had the game tied down Cisse missed a fairly easy header and KJ did all the hard stuff and ended it with a poor shot. I don't think either of them played particuarly well today. I thought Carlos had a good game and his confidence seem to return the longer he was on the pitch. Losing both Collins and Nosworthy had a big impact as we had to put McShane in at CH and Bardsley at LB when he is a RB. Don't think we really deserve to lose that, but thats the way it goes.
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My question is where the heck was the linesman on both goals scored by Villa.....M I A
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men get tie up - Carlos wasalways good at hitting nice little dinks, chips and lobs formen in the box - watch de Guatemala 05 game again, then watch the one he send in for latas against the usa. His problemwas anytime it had any kinda distance to put on the ball - the more orthodox crosses. Notice he never hit any corners for us...
Didn't see the game though - hope that aspect of it improve too...
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My question is where the heck was the linesman on both goals scored by Villa.....M I A
Correct, ah boy de beautiful game, press on Sunderland
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Sunderland seems to be blighted by officials and woodwork
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Well I just got back in and left scratching my head a bit.
I thought we played well despite Richardson missing unexpectantly, the tempo was better didn't give them anytime and really controlled the game 1st half and should of put it to bed.
Their 1st goal was handball, but Collins had concussion ( I think) and had gone missing ( not his fault really) for the cross.
Their 2nd goal the guy looked offside to start with to me and there is no way the ref could see if that was in the area or not from where he was, tbh I couldn't tell from where I was sitting.
Interestly the ref Dean and 1 linesman was the same as the West Ham match where they managed to miss to headlock on Kenwyne stone wall penalty and the Cisse foul debatable penalty sending off. Thats not the only occasions Dean has got important decisions wrong against us lately either.
Should of really had the game tied down Cisse missed a fairly easy header and KJ did all the hard stuff and ended it with a poor shot. I don't think either of them played particuarly well today. I thought Carlos had a good game and his confidence seem to return the longer he was on the pitch. Losing both Collins and Nosworthy had a big impact as we had to put McShane in at CH and Bardsley at LB when he is a RB. Don't think we really deserve to lose that, but thats the way it goes.
Not a mention on how Calos played or Jonesy?
Still feel you want Crouch or Bent for Jones?
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Sunderland seems to be plagued by bad decisions since last season. ???
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Sunderland seems to be plagued by bad decisions since last season. ???
They should ask Man United how they does get all them added on time and call for dives.
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Now watch the highlights. Milner goal for the equalizer looked like handball..but to be honest, he was clear on goal and Chimbonda trip him. Or else he was tapping that in easy. Sunderland lucky ref didn't call Chmibonda for the trip on the last man (Dat would be straight red card)...and Sunders down to 10 men for a good chunk of the 2nd half.
2nd goal..same linesman..Agbonlahor was def...offside.
Game should probably be 1-1 if refs got the calls right.
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Well I just got back in and left scratching my head a bit.
I thought we played well despite Richardson missing unexpectantly, the tempo was better didn't give them anytime and really controlled the game 1st half and should of put it to bed.
Their 1st goal was handball, but Collins had concussion ( I think) and had gone missing ( not his fault really) for the cross.
Their 2nd goal the guy looked offside to start with to me and there is no way the ref could see if that was in the area or not from where he was, tbh I couldn't tell from where I was sitting.
Interestly the ref Dean and 1 linesman was the same as the West Ham match where they managed to miss to headlock on Kenwyne stone wall penalty and the Cisse foul debatable penalty sending off. Thats not the only occasions Dean has got important decisions wrong against us lately either.
Should of really had the game tied down Cisse missed a fairly easy header and KJ did all the hard stuff and ended it with a poor shot. I don't think either of them played particuarly well today. I thought Carlos had a good game and his confidence seem to return the longer he was on the pitch. Losing both Collins and Nosworthy had a big impact as we had to put McShane in at CH and Bardsley at LB when he is a RB. Don't think we really deserve to lose that, but thats the way it goes.
Not a mention on how Calos played or Jonesy?
Still feel you want Crouch or Bent for Jones?
Did you even read the post, I think it mentions both ::), or are you just going to chew on me at every opportunity, feel free I have a thick skin, you will get bored before I do.
See other thread for my response to you re Crouch & Bent
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=41358.0
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Well I just got back in and left scratching my head a bit.
I thought we played well despite Richardson missing unexpectantly, the tempo was better didn't give them anytime and really controlled the game 1st half and should of put it to bed.
Their 1st goal was handball, but Collins had concussion ( I think) and had gone missing ( not his fault really) for the cross.
Their 2nd goal the guy looked offside to start with to me and there is no way the ref could see if that was in the area or not from where he was, tbh I couldn't tell from where I was sitting.
Interestly the ref Dean and 1 linesman was the same as the West Ham match where they managed to miss to headlock on Kenwyne stone wall penalty and the Cisse foul debatable penalty sending off. Thats not the only occasions Dean has got important decisions wrong against us lately either.
Should of really had the game tied down Cisse missed a fairly easy header and KJ did all the hard stuff and ended it with a poor shot. I don't think either of them played particuarly well today. I thought Carlos had a good game and his confidence seem to return the longer he was on the pitch. Losing both Collins and Nosworthy had a big impact as we had to put McShane in at CH and Bardsley at LB when he is a RB. Don't think we really deserve to lose that, but thats the way it goes.
Not a mention on how Calos played or Jonesy?
Still feel you want Crouch or Bent for Jones?
Did you even read the post, I think it mentions both ::), or are you just going to chew on me at every opportunity, feel free I have a thick skin, you will get bored before I do.
See other thread for my response to you re Crouch & Bent
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=41358.0
Guy 9 out of 10 of your posts last year stated that KJ played poorly, he cant run at the defense..blah blah blah. One time you stated that pundits OFTEN referred to him as great one day and as ordinary as a pub player other games. I challenged you then to show me in print ONE article veryfing what you stated...still throw out that challenge today!
Carlos has not been spared your harshness either, although in fairness you have on ocassion ststed that he was coming back from injury, you still stated on more than one occassion that he may not be back..etc.
yuh too f**king critical of MY trini players.
One time yuh say that KJ had a bad game but still cored and you will take that, but he was voted man of the match on BBC and on the supporters website.
wha is dat one?
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Well I just got back in and left scratching my head a bit.
I thought we played well despite Richardson missing unexpectantly, the tempo was better didn't give them anytime and really controlled the game 1st half and should of put it to bed.
Their 1st goal was handball, but Collins had concussion ( I think) and had gone missing ( not his fault really) for the cross.
Their 2nd goal the guy looked offside to start with to me and there is no way the ref could see if that was in the area or not from where he was, tbh I couldn't tell from where I was sitting.
Interestly the ref Dean and 1 linesman was the same as the West Ham match where they managed to miss to headlock on Kenwyne stone wall penalty and the Cisse foul debatable penalty sending off. Thats not the only occasions Dean has got important decisions wrong against us lately either.
Should of really had the game tied down Cisse missed a fairly easy header and KJ did all the hard stuff and ended it with a poor shot. I don't think either of them played particuarly well today. I thought Carlos had a good game and his confidence seem to return the longer he was on the pitch. Losing both Collins and Nosworthy had a big impact as we had to put McShane in at CH and Bardsley at LB when he is a RB. Don't think we really deserve to lose that, but thats the way it goes.
Not a mention on how Calos played or Jonesy?
Still feel you want Crouch or Bent for Jones?
Did you even read the post, I think it mentions both ::), or are you just going to chew on me at every opportunity, feel free I have a thick skin, you will get bored before I do.
See other thread for my response to you re Crouch & Bent
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=41358.0
Guy 9 out of 10 of your posts last year stated that KJ played poorly, he cant run at the defense..blah blah blah. One time you stated that pundits OFTEN referred to him as great one day and as ordinary as a pub player other games. I challenged you then to show me in print ONE article veryfing what you stated...still throw out that challenge today!
Carlos has not been spared your harshness either, although in fairness you have on ocassion ststed that he was coming back from injury, you still stated on more than one occassion that he may not be back..etc.
yuh too f**king critical of MY trini players.
One time yuh say that KJ had a bad game but still cored and you will take that, but he was voted man of the match on BBC and on the supporters website.
wha is dat one?
Ah the poor bairn, it seems you can't count aswell as read, stop digging or get a bigger spade.
The only time I had a go at Kenwyne was late last year after he disapeared for the season from pre Liverpool onwards, even then I admitted he looked tired and jaded, but yes you will find posts which say he didn't play well. I have got news for you he didn't in the games I said he didn't, the same as I have said the tactics were wrong, we can't defend for shit, its my view, my opinion and usually not far off the mark, or reality if you like. You will do very well to find much critical about Carlos or Yorke without referring to either Carlos's injury / mental state or Yorke's age or pressing other teams.
The silly sods at sunderland voted Collins player of the year, doesn't mean he was if you know what you are looking at does it.
Your just making yourself look silly know, do yourself a favour and quit while your behind.
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the whole team was playing shit, yet you found time to single out KJ?
man stop while you fool some here. I see yuh shit for what it is.
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the whole team was playing shit, yet you found time to single out KJ?
Nobody here cares to hear what he thinks about Grant Leadbitter or Whitehead. Common sense would tell you that he gives extra detail on the players of interest to us.
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the whole team was playing shit, yet you found time to single out KJ?
Nobody here cares to hear what he thinks about Grant Leadbitter or Whitehead. Common sense would tell you that he gives extra detail on the players of interest to us.
please he talks about the entire team...keep out, mind yuh own business, when I want to talk to you I will call you/
what de f**k you know about common sense?
one minute is de whole team now he talks about now is jes de players dat intereste we?
steups
when I want you opinion I will give it to you..until den lay dey and wait!
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the whole team was playing shit, yet you found time to single out KJ?
Nobody here cares to hear what he thinks about Grant Leadbitter or Whitehead. Common sense would tell you that he gives extra detail on the players of interest to us.
please he talks about the entire team...keep out, mind yuh own business, when I want to talk to you I will call you/
what de f**k you know about common sense?
one minute is de whole team now he talks about now is jes de players dat intereste we?
steups
when I want you opinion I will give it to you..until den lay dey and wait!
I missed the part where you issued me a password for this site.
And your reading comprehension is poor.
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the whole team was playing shit, yet you found time to single out KJ?
Nobody here cares to hear what he thinks about Grant Leadbitter or Whitehead. Common sense would tell you that he gives extra detail on the players of interest to us.
please he talks about the entire team...keep out, mind yuh own business, when I want to talk to you I will call you/
what de f**k you know about common sense?
one minute is de whole team now he talks about now is jes de players dat intereste we?
steups
when I want you opinion I will give it to you..until den lay dey and wait!
I missed the part where you issued me a password for this site.
And your reading comprehension is poor.
I is ah 7 th standard dunce,,,now go wait by yuh dish for my call...
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Well I just got back in and left scratching my head a bit.
I thought we played well despite Richardson missing unexpectantly, the tempo was better didn't give them anytime and really controlled the game 1st half and should of put it to bed.
Their 1st goal was handball, but Collins had concussion ( I think) and had gone missing ( not his fault really) for the cross.
Their 2nd goal the guy looked offside to start with to me and there is no way the ref could see if that was in the area or not from where he was, tbh I couldn't tell from where I was sitting.
Interestly the ref Dean and 1 linesman was the same as the West Ham match where they managed to miss to headlock on Kenwyne stone wall penalty and the Cisse foul debatable penalty sending off. Thats not the only occasions Dean has got important decisions wrong against us lately either.
Should of really had the game tied down Cisse missed a fairly easy header and KJ did all the hard stuff and ended it with a poor shot. I don't think either of them played particuarly well today. I thought Carlos had a good game and his confidence seem to return the longer he was on the pitch. Losing both Collins and Nosworthy had a big impact as we had to put McShane in at CH and Bardsley at LB when he is a RB. Don't think we really deserve to lose that, but thats the way it goes.
Not a mention on how Calos played or Jonesy?
Still feel you want Crouch or Bent for Jones?
Did you even read the post, I think it mentions both ::), or are you just going to chew on me at every opportunity, feel free I have a thick skin, you will get bored before I do.
See other thread for my response to you re Crouch & Bent
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=41358.0
Guy 9 out of 10 of your posts last year stated that KJ played poorly, he cant run at the defense..blah blah blah. One time you stated that pundits OFTEN referred to him as great one day and as ordinary as a pub player other games. I challenged you then to show me in print ONE article veryfing what you stated...still throw out that challenge today!
Carlos has not been spared your harshness either, although in fairness you have on ocassion ststed that he was coming back from injury, you still stated on more than one occassion that he may not be back..etc.
yuh too f**king critical of MY trini players.
One time yuh say that KJ had a bad game but still cored and you will take that, but he was voted man of the match on BBC and on the supporters website.
wha is dat one?
hoss, u need to calm down a sec...kev is poster i respect bcuz he tells it like it is, when he believed Kenwyne played poorly, he said so and when he had a great game he did the same.
And there have been games wen Kenwyne played badly and scored, so what if BBC voted him player of the game? That is his opinion.
Kev is actually quite amicable towards our players.
He's been kinder to Carlos than Palos and other posters on this board he's one of the few who does not come down on Carlos for crossing.
The post where he stated KJ was bad one day, great the other and carlos and yorke should be pub team players was made sarcastically basically bcuz of people like u trinity cross coming down on him for speaking his mind about his players. UNLIKE you, he's been following Sunderland the team for far longer and actually sees the team play LIVE from the stadium so he relate what team does well and doesn't alot more than you sir...
My two cents...
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Well I just got back in and left scratching my head a bit.
I thought we played well despite Richardson missing unexpectantly, the tempo was better didn't give them anytime and really controlled the game 1st half and should of put it to bed.
Their 1st goal was handball, but Collins had concussion ( I think) and had gone missing ( not his fault really) for the cross.
Their 2nd goal the guy looked offside to start with to me and there is no way the ref could see if that was in the area or not from where he was, tbh I couldn't tell from where I was sitting.
Interestly the ref Dean and 1 linesman was the same as the West Ham match where they managed to miss to headlock on Kenwyne stone wall penalty and the Cisse foul debatable penalty sending off. Thats not the only occasions Dean has got important decisions wrong against us lately either.
Should of really had the game tied down Cisse missed a fairly easy header and KJ did all the hard stuff and ended it with a poor shot. I don't think either of them played particuarly well today. I thought Carlos had a good game and his confidence seem to return the longer he was on the pitch. Losing both Collins and Nosworthy had a big impact as we had to put McShane in at CH and Bardsley at LB when he is a RB. Don't think we really deserve to lose that, but thats the way it goes.
Not a mention on how Calos played or Jonesy?
Still feel you want Crouch or Bent for Jones?
Did you even read the post, I think it mentions both ::), or are you just going to chew on me at every opportunity, feel free I have a thick skin, you will get bored before I do.
See other thread for my response to you re Crouch & Bent
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=41358.0
Guy 9 out of 10 of your posts last year stated that KJ played poorly, he cant run at the defense..blah blah blah. One time you stated that pundits OFTEN referred to him as great one day and as ordinary as a pub player other games. I challenged you then to show me in print ONE article veryfing what you stated...still throw out that challenge today!
Carlos has not been spared your harshness either, although in fairness you have on ocassion ststed that he was coming back from injury, you still stated on more than one occassion that he may not be back..etc.
yuh too f**king critical of MY trini players.
One time yuh say that KJ had a bad game but still cored and you will take that, but he was voted man of the match on BBC and on the supporters website.
wha is dat one?
hoss, u need to calm down a sec...kev is poster i respect bcuz he tells it like it is, when he believed Kenwyne played poorly, he said so and when he had a great game he did the same.
And there have been games wen Kenwyne played badly and scored, so what if BBC voted him player of the game? That is his opinion.
Kev is actually quite amicable towards our players.
He's been kinder to Carlos than Palos and other posters on this board he's one of the few who does not come down on Carlos for crossing.
The post where he stated KJ was bad one day, great the other and carlos and yorke should be pub team players was made sarcastically basically bcuz of people like u trinity cross coming down on him for speaking his mind about his players. UNLIKE you, he's been following Sunderland the team for far longer and actually sees the team play LIVE from the stadium so he relate what team does well and doesn't alot more than you sir...
My two cents...
NONSENSE!
No sacarsm at all. De man say Sky Sports say that about Jones...steups.
The same game he say Jones play shit he get Man of the match form other Sunderland supporters, allyuh drink dat English cool aid.
he talking shit!
I eh care wha you say.
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the whole team was playing shit, yet you found time to single out KJ?
Nobody here cares to hear what he thinks about Grant Leadbitter or Whitehead. Common sense would tell you that he gives extra detail on the players of interest to us.
please he talks about the entire team...keep out, mind yuh own business, when I want to talk to you I will call you/
what de f**k you know about common sense?
one minute is de whole team now he talks about now is jes de players dat intereste we?
steups
when I want you opinion I will give it to you..until den lay dey and wait!
I missed the part where you issued me a password for this site.
And your reading comprehension is poor.
I is ah 7 th standard dunce,,,now go wait by yuh dish for my call...
Well your level of discourse is primary school standard for sure. So I'll take this confession as child-like honesty.
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Well I just got back in and left scratching my head a bit.
I thought we played well despite Richardson missing unexpectantly, the tempo was better didn't give them anytime and really controlled the game 1st half and should of put it to bed.
Their 1st goal was handball, but Collins had concussion ( I think) and had gone missing ( not his fault really) for the cross.
Their 2nd goal the guy looked offside to start with to me and there is no way the ref could see if that was in the area or not from where he was, tbh I couldn't tell from where I was sitting.
Interestly the ref Dean and 1 linesman was the same as the West Ham match where they managed to miss to headlock on Kenwyne stone wall penalty and the Cisse foul debatable penalty sending off. Thats not the only occasions Dean has got important decisions wrong against us lately either.
Should of really had the game tied down Cisse missed a fairly easy header and KJ did all the hard stuff and ended it with a poor shot. I don't think either of them played particuarly well today. I thought Carlos had a good game and his confidence seem to return the longer he was on the pitch. Losing both Collins and Nosworthy had a big impact as we had to put McShane in at CH and Bardsley at LB when he is a RB. Don't think we really deserve to lose that, but thats the way it goes.
Not a mention on how Calos played or Jonesy?
Still feel you want Crouch or Bent for Jones?
Did you even read the post, I think it mentions both ::), or are you just going to chew on me at every opportunity, feel free I have a thick skin, you will get bored before I do.
See other thread for my response to you re Crouch & Bent
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=41358.0
Guy 9 out of 10 of your posts last year stated that KJ played poorly, he cant run at the defense..blah blah blah. One time you stated that pundits OFTEN referred to him as great one day and as ordinary as a pub player other games. I challenged you then to show me in print ONE article veryfing what you stated...still throw out that challenge today!
Carlos has not been spared your harshness either, although in fairness you have on ocassion ststed that he was coming back from injury, you still stated on more than one occassion that he may not be back..etc.
yuh too f**king critical of MY trini players.
One time yuh say that KJ had a bad game but still cored and you will take that, but he was voted man of the match on BBC and on the supporters website.
wha is dat one?
hoss, u need to calm down a sec...kev is poster i respect bcuz he tells it like it is, when he believed Kenwyne played poorly, he said so and when he had a great game he did the same.
And there have been games wen Kenwyne played badly and scored, so what if BBC voted him player of the game? That is his opinion.
Kev is actually quite amicable towards our players.
He's been kinder to Carlos than Palos and other posters on this board he's one of the few who does not come down on Carlos for crossing.
The post where he stated KJ was bad one day, great the other and carlos and yorke should be pub team players was made sarcastically basically bcuz of people like u trinity cross coming down on him for speaking his mind about his players. UNLIKE you, he's been following Sunderland the team for far longer and actually sees the team play LIVE from the stadium so he relate what team does well and doesn't alot more than you sir...
My two cents...
NONSENSE!
No sacarsm at all. De man say Sky Sports say that about Jones...steups.
The same game he say Jones play shit he get Man of the match form other Sunderland supporters, allyuh drink dat English cool aid.
he talking shit!
I eh care wha you say.
Still wittering on I see.
So what don't you like about it, first I admit I can't remember the exact game but I doubt severely it was said in the same week as he was voted MOTM.
Now last season as I said on that thread Sky Sports have a Saturday Show and a pundit/s (fairly sure it was Paul Merson for one) said on more than 1 occasion that Jones can look like be a world beater in some games and a pub team player in others. Now is the fact you don't like that it was said by the pundit/s or the fact I used it in a thread, if you are inferring it wasn't said you are sadly mistaken.
Now just to get thinks straight try and find anything where I have said Kenwyne is like a pub team player or ripped him to bits on a performance, most of my remarks tend to be played well, didn't play well or played poorly, now if you think there hasn't been occasions when I could of ripped into him for a performance your again living in cloud cuckoo land, but personally don't see the point as everybody has poor games. You will find that I have said he needs to improve his 1st touch, movement and shooting because to be the player some on here mistakenly already think he is he needs to. I am not going to repeat myself anymore because this will is becoming tedious for other people on the board and is unnecessary.
You just keep on digging, there's a good little boy
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Look Highlights
http://i423.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid423.photobucket.com/albums/pp320/pbweek21/SunAst0809.flv
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delayed on fsc @5pm on tuesday.
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delayed on fsc @5pm on tuesday.
Fulham could do what they want to delay the inevitable :devil:
cutarse in store for them :D
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Premier League Preview: Sunderland - Fulham
What: Barclays Premier League
Who: Sunderland (15th – 23 points) V Fulham (10th – 26 points)
When: Tuesday 27th January 2009 – 19:45 (local time)
Where: Stadium Of Light, Sunderland.
Ricky Sbragia did an impressive job as Sunderland’s caretaker manager following the resignation of Roy Keane, although things have taken a slight downturn since he penned an 18-month deal to become the Black Cats’ permanent manager.
Fans have not turned against Sbragia, besides, he has only had five games in full charge, but the Scot will be determined to pick up a victory over Fulham, having only won one of five games in all competitions, and picking up just one Premier League point from a possible nine since securing the job.
Things have been pretty quiet on the transfer front, at least in terms of players who could be inwards bound. Sbragia has confirmed he has made enquiries over four defenders, one mentioned regularly being Hearts captain Christophe Berra.
Pascal Chimbonda has returned to Tottenham Hotspur, but the main focus between now and the end of the transfer window will be ensuring that striker Kenwyne Jones does not follow the Frenchman to White Hart Lane.
Jones has held talks with the Sunderland hierarchy and is said to be happy to stay at the Stadium of Light, but as yet, Spurs have not turned their attentions elsewhere.
The struggles since Sbragia’s permanent appointment mean that the Black Cats are only two points clear of the bottom three, although alternatively they are the same margin away from eleventh spot, such is the closeness of the league’s bottom half.
Results will have to come soon if Sunderland want to avoid a relegation scrap, and there is no better place to start than against Fulham on Tuesday night.
A Great First Half
Fulham have had a great first half of the season and will now be looking to kick on to ensure their hard work is not put to waste.
Reviewing their progress so far, the Cottagers sit in the top half in the Premier League table, and are into the last-16 of the FA Cup - a stable campaign for a side who left it so late to avoid relegation to the Championship last year.
They sold key midfielder Jimmy Bullard to Hull City last week, which raised questions from some quarters, although on paper, £5 million for a player the wrong side of 30, who has had long-term injury problems in the past, does not look like bad business. It remains to be seen who manager Roy Hodgson has in mind to replace him.
Traditionally, Fulham are very strong at home, and hardly ever win on their travels. The club have upheld that reputation this year, having lost only one out of ten matches at home, and failing to win in their ten fixtures away from Craven Cottage.
This year, though, they have made themselves harder to beat on the road, securing five draws, mostly goalless, including against the likes of Liverpool and Aston Villa. But the fact just three goals have been scored in those ten matches will surely concern Hodgson.
Fulham currently sit with two games in hand on their rivals, and will be hopeful of a strong second half to their campaign – and will have their sights set on improving their away form, starting with this fixture on Tuesday.
PLAYERS TO WATCH
Sunderland – Kenwyne Jones
A large number of column inches have been designated to Tottenham Hotspur’s pursuit of Kenwyne Jones, a player Sunderland are determined to keep. The Trinidad & Tobago international striker has the opportunity to add to his valuation in this game, and could well take the opportunity to prove exactly what all the fuss is about.
Fulham – Mark Schwarzer
Fulham don’t tend to score many goals away from home, so if they are to return to west London with anything from their trip to Sunderland, ever-present goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer will have to be on top of his game. The Cottagers have conceded an average of less than a goal a game this season, and will be keen to keep that record going.
FORM GUIDE
Sunderland
Jan 24 Sunderland 0-0 Blackburn Rovers (FA Cup)
Jan 17 Sunderland 1-2 Aston Villa (Premier League)
Jan 10 Middlesbrough 1-1 Sunderland (Premier League)
Jan 03 Sunderland 2-1 Bolton Wanderers (FA Cup)
Dec 28 Everton 3-0 Sunderland (Premier League)
Fulham
Jan 24 Kettering 2-4 Fulham (FA Cup)
Jan 18 West Ham 3-1 Fulham (Premier League)
Jan 03 Sheffield Wednesday 1-2 Fulham (FA Cup)
Dec 28 Fulham 2-2 Chelsea (Premier League)
Dec 26 Tottenham Hotspur 0-0 Fulham (Premier League)
TEAM NEWS
Sunderland
First-choice strike duo Kenwyne Jones and Djibril Cisse are expected to return to the starting line-up for Sunderland after an FA Cup rest against Blackburn Rovers. Kieran Richardson is a doubt with an ankle problem, although Teemu Tainio returns from suspension for the game.
Previous XI (0-0 Home V Sunderland): Fulop, Chimbonda, Ferdinand, Collins, Bardsley, Edwards, Leadbitter, Malbranque, Reid, Healy, Chopra.
Fulham
Bobby Zamora is expected to return to the Fulham starting XI for the trip north after receiving a rest against Kettering in the FA Cup on Saturday.
Andranik Teymourian is getting closer to a return following a knee injury, but this game is likely to come slightly too soon for him.
Previous XI (4-2 Away V Kettering): Schwarzer, Stoor, Hangeland, Hughes, Konchesky, Davies, Andreasen, Etuhu, Gera, Johnson, Dempsey.
PREDICTION
Sunderland will be determined to pick up a Premier League victory to get themselves back up the table after a slow couple of weeks, and will certainly see this game as a winnable fixture.
Fulham have had a super season so far, although they continue to struggle away from home and will set-up to be hard to beat at the Stadium of Light.
I don’t expect to see too many goals here, one could be enough, and I think Ricky Sbragia’s men will be the team to get the three points.
Sunderland 1-0 Fulham
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That other one play for Man United for so long and eh learn to manage.....that's not right. I hope Giggs do better.
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Possible links for tonights match
KO 7.45 GMT
http://atdhe.net/live-tv-2684.html
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=28595&part=sports
http://the-success.blogspot.com/
Audio Link
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
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Possible links for tonights match
KO 7.45 GMT
http://atdhe.net/live-tv-2684.html
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=28595&part=sports
http://the-success.blogspot.com/
Audio Link
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
Thanks Kev :beermug:
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hopefully villa will beat portsmouth and stoke and spurs will draw.and ofcourse manchester will put ah drubbin on wba
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game just start people
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game just start people
Thanks man
how de westcoast treatin ya dese days?
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I need a Chinese translator to follow up some of those links.
I know yesterday was Chinese New Year and all .. but all I know is Ching Chong Maka Hiyo.
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none of dem links workin....
anybody have anything else???
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game just start people
Thanks man
how de westcoast treatin ya dese days?
boring no arse ;D
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Audio Link
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
I am getting this audio link to work
any video links working?
lots of trinis in dis game
even Zamora playin ;D
game just start people
Thanks man
how de westcoast treatin ya dese days?
boring no arse ;D
we get more snow in we tail again this morning :(
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LIVE BROADCAST video link here:
http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html (http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html)
WARNING turn DOWN your volume
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LIVE BROADCAST video link here:
http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html (http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html)
WARNING turn DOWN your volume
good job
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spurs leadin stoke 1 nil,lennon score in de 8th.
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KJ just leggo a bullet after fighting off a man - straight to the keeper who bubble it.
Cisse tooze down he pants afterwards
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spurs score 2 more in 3 mins.3 nil in de 25th min.defoe and pavlyluchenko score.
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villa leadin portsmouth in de 25th.heskey score.1 nil.
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0-0 at the half.
Sunderland is playing heaping amounts of sh!te.
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LIVE BROADCAST video link here:
http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html (http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html)
WARNING turn DOWN your volume
cant see sunderland game anywhere???
click on channel #6
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LIVE BROADCAST video link here:
http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html (http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html)
WARNING turn DOWN your volume
cant see sunderland game anywhere???
you should see some instructions on the left side telling you which channel to select.
Channel links are top middle towards the left side of your screen.
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LIVE BROADCAST video link here:
http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html (http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html)
WARNING turn DOWN your volume
cant see sunderland game anywhere???
click on no. 6
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LIVE BROADCAST video link here:
http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html (http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html)
WARNING turn DOWN your volume
cant see sunderland game anywhere???
you should see some instructions on the left side telling you which channel to select.
Channel links are top middle towards the left side of your screen.
Thanks
I have NOW tried it for the umpteenth time and finally got it to work
(it did not like that I also had the audio link going...shut it down now)
Thanks ALL
The highlights showing that KJ is getting to the keeper, so in the second half he knows where not to strike the ball to ;D
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LIVE BROADCAST video link here:
http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html (http://vssl.obxhost.net/home.html)
WARNING turn DOWN your volume
cant see sunderland game anywhere???
you should see some instructions on the left side telling you which channel to select.
Channel links are top middle towards the left side of your screen.
Thanks
I have NOW tried it for the umpteenth time and finally got it to work
(it did not like that I also had the audio link going...shut it down now)
Thanks ALL
The highlights showing that KJ is getting to the keeper, so in the second half he knows where not to strike the ball to ;D
Den he better start scoring before Scotty relegate him to de bench ;D
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ok dong in front
second half goin an start now fa now
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looks like Zamora was asking KJ where to find a good roti after the match ...... time to bring on Edwards!!
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GOAL!!! KJ!!!
start paying it back!!!
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KJ eh letting Scotty show him up ,,,.... GGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLD
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KJ eh letting Scotty show him up ,,,.... GGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLD
GOLASOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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I only getting de spurs game >:(
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I only getting de spurs game >:(
lol ... go back and read the previous threads for directions.
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DUN KNO!!!!!!
big up JONESY!!!!
keep dem coming
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GOAL.......KJ
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carlos on!!!
goaltime x2!!!
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That site just shut down all my shite guy steuppsss check stress .all I did was click to enlarge screen ,f**k it me eint want to se no MoCu game .
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Carlos coming on 75th
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I only getting de spurs game >:(
you can get it here too..
http://footyheat.com/watch/19:45_GMT_%5BEnglish_Premier_League%5D_Sunderland_-_Fulham/flash2#
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I only getting de spurs game >:(
you can get it here too..
http://footyheat.com/watch/19:45_GMT_%5BEnglish_Premier_League%5D_Sunderland_-_Fulham/flash2#
Thanks
(that udda link ded for me now)
That site just shut down all my shite guy steuppsss check stress .all I did was click to enlarge screen ,f**k it me eint want to se no MoCu game .
Boodsy link workin
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84th Sund 1-0
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It take me exactly 1 hr to fix that ,f it me eint linking nowhere ah good here .
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game done...important 3 points
well done KJ :beermug:
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TT 1 - USA 0.
KJ do everything in the second half that Cisse couldn't do in the first.
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If KJ could learn to run off the ball better, he will be very good. Good composure to finish a bullet from Cisse.
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The whole Sunderland side don't move off the ball at alll.
They waiting for ball to move them.. "see ball chase ball"
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KJ goal against Fulham
http://www.tvgolo.com/football.php?subaction=showfull&id=1233093952&archive=&start_from=&ucat=40&
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lovelee 3 points.
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Jones Celebrates With Winner For Sunderland
Sunderland beat Fulham thanks to a goal from the striker who earlier today committed himself to another four years on Wearside...
Sunderland 1-0 Fulham
Kenwyne Jones celebrated committing himself to Sunderland by scoring the goal that gave Sunderland victory and three welcome points against a Fulham side coming to terms with life after midfield playmaker Jimmy Bullard,. now at Hull.
Jones struck the goal ten minutes into the second half, after Andy Reid went on a run at the heart of the Fulham defence and the ball broke to Djibril Cisse, whose shot was stopped by Mark Schwarzer, but came out to the Trinidad & Tobago striker. Jones, who only signed a new four-year contract at the Stadium of Light earlier today, duly knocked it into the net.
Fulham's barren spell on the road therefore continues - they are winless away from home this season - but it might have been different if Simon Davies had converted the Cottagers' best chance. However, the Welshman put the ball over from six yards when Clint Dempsey nodded it down for him.
However, Cisse probably should have scored himself in the first half when his follow-up, after a Jones effort was parried by Schwarzer, was blocked.
Ex-Fulham midfielder Steed Malbranque was denied from eight yards by an excellent Schwarzer save, while Jones nearly made it two for Sunderland at the death, beating his marker but having his shot well saved by Schwarzer.
It was disappointing for Fulham to slip to their second successive League defeat after having enjoyed a fine run of nine games unbeaten. But for Sunderland, victory was most welcome, and nudged them further away from the relegation zone. It was also the ideal tonic ahead of Sunday's North-East derby against fellow-strugglers Newcastle United at St James' Park.
The first half was somewhat frustrating for the Black Cats who carved out several half-chances but could not put any of them away - partly because of Schwarzer's good form in dealing with the twin threat of Cisse and Jones.
But Sunderland keeper Marton Fulop, in contrast, had very little to do as Fulham failed to test him meaningfully in the opening 45 minutes, though Andrew Johnson had a 28th-minute shot deflected wide by Danny Collins, and Clint Dempsey fired narrowly wide in the 39th.
Possession was being given away too readily by both sides as he game cried out for a touch of quality and inspiration. But if Fulham boss Roy Hodgson was marginally the happier manager at half-time, given that Sunderland's need of three points was the greater, it didn't take long for his counterpart Ricky Sbragia start feeling better.
His side came out more purposefully after the break, and Schwarzer was soon forced to leave his line and punch clear a teasing cross from Reid.
The Australian keeper then did well on 55 minutes to parry a curling snapshot from Cisse, but this time Jones reacted more quickly than any of the Fulham defenders to side-foot the ball into the net from close range.
The goal lifted the tension inside the stadium but the Wearsiders really needed a second to calm the nerves, and Malbranque's swerving shot on 63 minutes would have provided it had Schwarzer not pulled off another good save.
The Mackems' hearts were in their mouths five minutes later when Dempsey headed down John Pantsil's deep cross at the far post for Simon Davies, but he could only blaze high over as Fulop rushed out to narrow the angle.
Malbranque then had another good chance to wrap things up seconds later but Schwarzer's superb reaction save thwarted him.
Pantsil's shot was well wide of the target when he found himself in space near the corner of the penalty area, and Jones was denied a brace after beating defender Brede Hangeland but seeing Schwarzer keep his shot out.
Sunderland: Fulop, Bardsley, Ferdinand, Collins, McCartney, Malbranque, Whitehead, Tainio, Reid, Cisse, Jones.
Subs: Colgan, Edwards, Diouf, Chopra, Leadbitter, Healy, McShane.
Fulham: Schwarzer, Pantsil, Hughes, Hangeland, Konchesky, Davies, Etuhu, Murphy, Dempsey, Johnson, Zamora.
Subs: Zuberbuhler, Nevland, Gera, Stoor, Andreasen, Kallio, Baird.
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Carlos need more type space
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KJ eh letting Scotty show him up ,,,.... GGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLD
GOLASOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Simple tap in, no?
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KJ eh letting Scotty show him up ,,,.... GGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLD
GOLASOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Simple tap in, no?
Almost identical to the chance Cisse had in the first half following up on KJs shot.
Doubt he would say it was simple.
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KJ eh letting Scotty show him up ,,,.... GGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLD
GOLASOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Simple tap in, no?
Almost identical to the chance Cisse had in the first half following up on KJs shot.
Doubt he would say it was simple.
no, it was a simple tap in. doesn't mean it wasn't a fine goal. I think BnS is just saying it wasn't out of the ordinary, which is what a golazo is supposed to be. Some announcers seem to use it anytime a goal scores to kind of hype up the game. but ask any latin..only spectacular strikes are true golazos.
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no, it was a simple tap in. doesn't mean it wasn't a fine goal. I think BnS is just saying it wasn't out of the ordinary, which is what a golazo is supposed to be. Some announcers seem to use it anytime a goal scores to kind of hype up the game. but ask any latin..only spectacular strikes are true golazos.
yeah I not trying to split hairs or otherwise take away from the goal... I just thought ah "golazo" was ah bullet... string up keeper or buss de net kinda goal.
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no, it was a simple tap in. doesn't mean it wasn't a fine goal. I think BnS is just saying it wasn't out of the ordinary, which is what a golazo is supposed to be. Some announcers seem to use it anytime a goal scores to kind of hype up the game. but ask any latin..only spectacular strikes are true golazos.
yeah I not trying to split hairs or otherwise take away from the goal... I just thought ah "golazo" was ah bullet... string up keeper or buss de net kinda goal.
yeah. bullet, bicycle..anything amazing
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the goal
http://football-highlight.com/en/england/premier-league/2009-01-27-sunderland-fulham-1-0.html
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If he missed yuh woulda hear cuss. only scoty does get easy goals , like in penal penal penalty.
BTW that was no easy tap in, rather jones made it look easy, if allyuh noticed there was ah 50-50 challenge and jones beat the defender by ah split second to the ball and despite ah skate tackle from the defender still manage to keep composure and and nailed it. great goal!
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More happy with tthe points but I thought the game was OK, still same old same old need a CM and defenders we'll be OK.
A couple seem to want to make it a pissing competition between Cisse and Kenwyne, which is quite hard given that they are 2 different types of players. I thought tonight was the 1st real signs of them working together they seemed to look to involved eachother more tonight in all the rest of the games put together. It didn't always come off but at least it shows that they are working on it. I made a point in saying on the last match thread that the last few games that Kenwyne seems to be making more runs into teh 6 yard box across the front post etc. He also knew Cisse was going to shoot ( a decent shot) and follwed in for any pieces and put it away nicely. Something we haven't really seen Kenwyne doing, ironically it was similar in the 1st half but the keeper blocked it beyond Kenwyne, taht too could of easily dropped his way. On the few occasions both get into the box with a player wide KJ has been making the run on goal and Cisse has been stopping at about the penalty spot, so the ball has a much better chance of falling to either of them. I thought teh defender made a great block when it was the other away around and Cisse picked up the pieces from Kenwyne's shot. I was pleased with them tonight because to me it was the 1st time it looked like they were working together and the things that must of been happening in training were there to see in a match. Still think the team is unbalanced a not really a team, just want to get through the season still in the EPL and a couple of players in the summer.
BTW the Guardian has a cynical column called The Fiver and in yesterdays it had Kenwyne Jones signs a new 4.5 year contract which will see him stay at Sunderland until the summer of 2009. Thought it was funny, but history tells us it could prove prophetic. ;D
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no, it was a simple tap in. doesn't mean it wasn't a fine goal. I think BnS is just saying it wasn't out of the ordinary, which is what a golazo is supposed to be. Some announcers seem to use it anytime a goal scores to kind of hype up the game. but ask any latin..only spectacular strikes are true golazos.
yeah I not trying to split hairs or otherwise take away from the goal... I just thought ah "golazo" was ah bullet... string up keeper or buss de net kinda goal.
yeah. bullet, bicycle..anything amazing
I post that after hearing he scored, did not even see the goal until later in the night, but yes, that's what a golaso is (above explanations), lawd, all yuh meticulous too bad, later
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If he missed yuh woulda hear cuss. only scoty does get easy goals , like in penal penal penalty.
BTW that was no easy tap in, rather jones made it look easy, if allyuh noticed there was ah 50-50 challenge and jones beat the defender by ah split second to the ball and despite ah skate tackle from the defender still manage to keep composure and and nailed it. great goal!
yep..noone dissing the goal. in fact, sometimes the simplest goals are the hardest to score. But it was a simple goal and any striker at that level would be seriously dissapointed not to score one of those. In any case, I was only trying to explain why BnS asked the question about a certain term - golazo- and how it is used. You never know, some people might care to know what the term golazo really means..it's not spliting hairs, or a put down of the goal. People on here can be too defensive. And you self, if a penalty was so easy, why bother take them. Might as well just give a goal once there is a foul in the box. you want to make a good point but your personal bias against Scotty have you contradicting yourself
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no, it was a simple tap in. doesn't mean it wasn't a fine goal. I think BnS is just saying it wasn't out of the ordinary, which is what a golazo is supposed to be. Some announcers seem to use it anytime a goal scores to kind of hype up the game. but ask any latin..only spectacular strikes are true golazos.
yeah I not trying to split hairs or otherwise take away from the goal... I just thought ah "golazo" was ah bullet... string up keeper or buss de net kinda goal.
yeah. bullet, bicycle..anything amazing
I post that after hearing he scored, did not even see the goal until later in the night, but yes, that's what a golaso is (above explanations), lawd, all yuh meticulous too bad, later
are we now goin to be told to ascribe a level of enthusiasm for the types of goals our players score :o
wow
shit man....we cyar bad talk players on trial.................. now this
:devil: :devil:
;D
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no, it was a simple tap in. doesn't mean it wasn't a fine goal. I think BnS is just saying it wasn't out of the ordinary, which is what a golazo is supposed to be. Some announcers seem to use it anytime a goal scores to kind of hype up the game. but ask any latin..only spectacular strikes are true golazos.
yeah I not trying to split hairs or otherwise take away from the goal... I just thought ah "golazo" was ah bullet... string up keeper or buss de net kinda goal.
yeah. bullet, bicycle..anything amazing
I post that after hearing he scored, did not even see the goal until later in the night, but yes, that's what a golaso is (above explanations), lawd, all yuh meticulous too bad, later
haha. doh take it so. by the way, i find KJ scoring some real 'striker's' goals this season. plenty six yard predatory thing other than headers. i like it. his strike rate is also about 3 times better than last year despite missing a good chunk of the season and pre season through injury. 6 goals in 14 games (only 11 starts) in the EPL is a creditable strike rate. He had 7 in 33 starts last season. Add 2 more goals in 2 starts in Cup competitions, and you have 8 goals in 13 starts. not bad at all
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no, it was a simple tap in. doesn't mean it wasn't a fine goal. I think BnS is just saying it wasn't out of the ordinary, which is what a golazo is supposed to be. Some announcers seem to use it anytime a goal scores to kind of hype up the game. but ask any latin..only spectacular strikes are true golazos.
yeah I not trying to split hairs or otherwise take away from the goal... I just thought ah "golazo" was ah bullet... string up keeper or buss de net kinda goal.
yeah. bullet, bicycle..anything amazing
I post that after hearing he scored, did not even see the goal until later in the night, but yes, that's what a golaso is (above explanations), lawd, all yuh meticulous too bad, later
are we now goin to be told to ascribe a level of enthusiasm for the types of goals our players score :o
wow
shit man....we cyar bad talk players on trial.................. now this
:devil: :devil:
;D
u overdoing it. read the posts and you will see that was never the intent
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no, it was a simple tap in. doesn't mean it wasn't a fine goal. I think BnS is just saying it wasn't out of the ordinary, which is what a golazo is supposed to be. Some announcers seem to use it anytime a goal scores to kind of hype up the game. but ask any latin..only spectacular strikes are true golazos.
yeah I not trying to split hairs or otherwise take away from the goal... I just thought ah "golazo" was ah bullet... string up keeper or buss de net kinda goal.
yeah. bullet, bicycle..anything amazing
I post that after hearing he scored, did not even see the goal until later in the night, but yes, that's what a golaso is (above explanations), lawd, all yuh meticulous too bad, later
are we now goin to be told to ascribe a level of enthusiasm for the types of goals our players score :o
wow
:devil:
shit man....we cyar bad talk players on trial.................. now this
:devil: :devil:
;D
u overdoing it. read the posts and you will see that was never the intent
Filho, ya disappoint me here today
and I Thought that the two :devil: and the ;D would have done it for allya.....my bad......sorry
Arrow, what am I doing wrong :D :D
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no, it was a simple tap in. doesn't mean it wasn't a fine goal. I think BnS is just saying it wasn't out of the ordinary, which is what a golazo is supposed to be. Some announcers seem to use it anytime a goal scores to kind of hype up the game. but ask any latin..only spectacular strikes are true golazos.
yeah I not trying to split hairs or otherwise take away from the goal... I just thought ah "golazo" was ah bullet... string up keeper or buss de net kinda goal.
yeah. bullet, bicycle..anything amazing
I post that after hearing he scored, did not even see the goal until later in the night, but yes, that's what a golaso is (above explanations), lawd, all yuh meticulous too bad, later
haha. doh take it so. by the way, i find KJ scoring some real 'striker's' goals this season. plenty six yard predatory thing other than headers. i like it. his strike rate is also about 3 times better than last year despite missing a good chunk of the season and pre season through injury. 6 goals in 14 games (only 11 starts) in the EPL is a creditable strike rate. He had 7 in 33 starts last season. Add 2 more goals in 2 starts in Cup competitions, and you have 8 goals in 13 starts. not bad at all
No seen man Filho, yuh know we good like goodyear....and yes, yuh on pt., is strike rate is much improved over last season, man seemed poised for continued success, best of luck KJ, we are behind you 115%
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Filho, ya disappoint me here today
and I Thought that the two :devil: and the ;D would have done it for allya.....my bad......sorry
Arrow, what am I doing wrong :D :D
well..if you look at my post, i included your original post and there was no 'devil' emoticon after the first statement. that was obviously something you edited in later. based on the emoticon you used, and the 'wow' after..it seems you were pretty serious about your first statement.
you seemed to be catching kix or being sarcastic only with your second statement. cyah read you mind breds..and you can't edit your post and pretend that was what your had originally...welcome to the internet :devil: ;) kix
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no, it was a simple tap in. doesn't mean it wasn't a fine goal. I think BnS is just saying it wasn't out of the ordinary, which is what a golazo is supposed to be. Some announcers seem to use it anytime a goal scores to kind of hype up the game. but ask any latin..only spectacular strikes are true golazos.
yeah I not trying to split hairs or otherwise take away from the goal... I just thought ah "golazo" was ah bullet... string up keeper or buss de net kinda goal.
yeah. bullet, bicycle..anything amazing
I post that after hearing he scored, did not even see the goal until later in the night, but yes, that's what a golaso is (above explanations), lawd, all yuh meticulous too bad, later
are we now goin to be told to ascribe a level of enthusiasm for the types of goals our players score :o
wow
:devil:
shit man....we cyar bad talk players on trial.................. now this
:devil: :devil:
;D
u overdoing it. read the posts and you will see that was never the intent
Filho, ya disappoint me here today
and I Thought that the two :devil: and the ;D would have done it for allya.....my bad......sorry
Arrow, what am I doing wrong :D :D
well..if you look at my post, i included your original post and there was no emoticon after the first statement. that was obviously something you edited in later. there was no way of telling you weren't serious.
you seemed to be catching kix or being sarcastic only with your second statement. cyah read you mind breds..and you can't edit your post and pretend that was what your had originally...welcome to the internet :devil: ;) kix
clarification: well my friend you quoted post #59 and it contains all you NOW say is NOT in it ::)
anyways....carry on :D :D
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clarification: well my friend you quoted post #59 and it contains all you NOW say is NOT in it ::)
anyways....carry on :D :D
wtf?..you gone crazy today or what. you edited your post after i replied. look at my original response to your post. come on WC..doh be a baby.
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sir....I cant edit your post #61 which is a quote of mine...seriously who is THE BABY
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clarification: well my friend you quoted post #59 and it contains all you NOW say is NOT in it ::)
anyways....carry on :D :D
wtf?..you gone crazy today or what. you edited your post after i replied. look at my original response to your post. come on WC..doh be a baby.
sir....I cant edit your post #61 which is a quote of mine...seriously who is THE BABY
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i guess we on different wavelengths. You said you were on kicks based on the emoticons you used. I said I could not tell because you added emoticons after I had already replied. Can we leave it at that. Your responses after that are what confused me..seemed like you were denying that. This is a bizarre conversation.
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clarification: well my friend you quoted post #59 and it contains all you NOW say is NOT in it ::)
anyways....carry on :D :D
wtf?..you gone crazy today or what. you edited your post after i replied. look at my original response to your post. come on WC..doh be a baby.
sir....I cant edit your post #61 which is a quote of mine...seriously who is THE BABY
i guess we on different wavelengths. You said you were on kicks based on the emoticons you used. I said I could not tell because you added emoticons after I had already replied. Can we leave it at that. Your responses after that are what confused me..seemed like you were denying that. This is a bizarre conversation.
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well dont say things that are clearly incorrect
your quote of my post contains the said emoticons that you still claim were not not there when you pressed the quote button
so your assertion is totally out of line
it is as plain as day sir
You still disappoint me......maybe you are having a terrible day.....so, I will leave it at that
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clarification: well my friend you quoted post #59 and it contains all you NOW say is NOT in it ::)
anyways....carry on :D :D
wtf?..you gone crazy today or what. you edited your post after i replied. look at my original response to your post. come on WC..doh be a baby.
sir....I cant edit your post #61 which is a quote of mine...seriously who is THE BABY
i guess we on different wavelengths. You said you were on kicks based on the emoticons you used. I said I could not tell because you added emoticons after I had already replied. Can we leave it at that. Your responses after that are what confused me..seemed like you were denying that. This is a bizarre conversation.
well dont say things that are clearly incorrect
your quote of my post contains the said emoticons that you still claim were not not there when you pressed the quote button
so your assertion is totally out of line
it is as plain as day sir
You still disappoint me......maybe you are having a terrible day.....so, I will leave it at that
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WC when i look at my screen, your original post #59, is different from your post #62. so to me it looks like you edited your post after i replied. if you can explain why your original post and your own response are different, then you have my humblest apologies. BUt I'm not trying to be out of line. I am just describing what I see on my screen. Do u really see different?
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OH fack ah cyah follow, Perry Mason dead...fuhget it nah :devil: :rotfl: :-* :'( :-X :-[
emoticons added :rotfl: :rotfl:
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OH fack ah cyah follow, Perry Mason dead...fuhget it nah :devil: :rotfl: :-* :'( :-X :-[
emoticons added :rotfl: :rotfl:
oh shi* man. i look for dat. heheh. forum argument is rell set up ting :devil: :devil:
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OH fack ah cyah follow, Perry Mason dead...fuhget it nah :devil: :rotfl: :-* :'( :-X :-[
emoticons added :rotfl: :rotfl:
oh shi* man. i look for dat. heheh. forum argument is rell set up ting :devil: :devil:
Argument or Debate? (http://www.speaking.pitt.edu/instructor/argue-debate.html)
I vote for Debate ;)
(sorry if I dont come across as such, as I am the first to admit that I am not as skillful a debater as some)
peace out
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I post that after hearing he scored, did not even see the goal until later in the night, but yes, that's what a golaso is (above explanations), lawd, all yuh meticulous too bad, later
lol... nah man, doh take it like dat. Is just that like the game itself football have it own beautiful language and when misapplied can give rise to inaccurate interpretations. Just ask Tallman how he had tuh 'brace' heself fuh licks last year fuh not knowing he football ABC's ;D
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I post that after hearing he scored, did not even see the goal until later in the night, but yes, that's what a golaso is (above explanations), lawd, all yuh meticulous too bad, later
lol... nah man, doh take it like dat. Is just that like the game itself football have it own beautiful language and when misapplied can give rise to inaccurate interpretations. Just ask Tallman how he had tuh 'brace' heself fuh licks last year fuh not knowing he football ABC's ;D
:rotfl:, ent, good one, no seen, Tallman, yuh guh never live down dat "brace" comment dread
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Sunderland manager Ricky Sbragia could be without midfielder Teemu Tainio for Sunday's Tyne-Wear derby trip to Newcastle.
The Finn picked up a knee injury in Tuesday night's 1-0 Premier League win over Fulham and is a major doubt, while defender Paul McShane is out with a hamstring problem.
But George McCartney should be fit after leaving the pitch with sore calves in midweek as he continued his comeback from a long injury lay-off, while Kieran Richardson, who scored the winner in the Wear-Tyne derby in October, has recovered from his ankle injury.
Keeper Craig Gordon is back in training following his long-term absence with an ankle problem, but is likely only to make the bench at best.
Kick-off at St James' Park is 1:30pm.
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Black Cats (from): Fulop, Gordon, Colgan, Bardsley, McCartney, Ferdinand, Collins, Whitehead, Malbranque, Leadbitter, Tainio, Richardson, Edwards, Yorke, Reid, Cisse, Jones, Murphy, Healy, Chopra.
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Do we need a Sunderland is the Greatest thread? ... or maybe All things KJ?
Somehow I don't think the first suggesting might ever fly.
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Do we need a Sunderland is the Greatest thread? ... or maybe All things KJ?
Somehow I don't think the first suggesting might ever fly.
all tings KJ have ah ring to it.
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Does Sunderland know what they're doing?
- why did they sign Diouf (and Chimbonda) in the first place??
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/30012009/3/diouf-reunited-allardyce-blackburn.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/30012009/3/diouf-reunited-allardyce-blackburn.html)
Diouf reunited with Allardyce at Blackburn
Fri 30 Jan, 03:56 PM
LONDON (AFP) - Blackburn on Friday completed the surprise signing of former African player of the year El-Hadji Diouf from Sunderland in a two-million-pound deal.
Diouf, 28, only moved to Sunderland at the end of last season but was keen to be reunited with Sam Allardyce, the Blackburn manager who brought Diouf when he was in charge of Bolton.
Allardyce said the signing would enable him to allow Matt Derbyshire to join Greek club Olympiacos on loan until the end of the season.
The deal was not completed in time for Diouf to be eligible to play for Blackburn at Middlesbrough on Saturday but Allardyce made it clear the forward would go into his first team as soon as possible.
"He can play a few positions, down the right, down the left, as well as along the front," Allardyce said. "I'm hoping he can come and give me the kind of performances he gave at Bolton."
The Blackburn boss added: "In the time I spent with him we always finished in the top half of the Premier League, no lower than eighth, and we played in Europe.
"Hopefully he can bring his ability, his trickery to Ewood Park, and delight some of the Blackburn fans."
Diouf's propensity for diving made him a hate figure for Blackburn's supporters during his time at Bolton but Allardyce has no doubt that his new acquisition can win them over.
"If he goes and plays to his best then they will soon take to him because he is talented," Allardyce said. "I just have to make sure he's ready and available, and he produces the best he can, because his best is very good - and normally it doesn't come this cheap."
Diouf, who turned 28 earlier this month, cost Sunderland 2.5 million pounds but did not made as big an impact as hoped for at the Stadium of Light. He started 13 matches for the club and came on as a substitute three times but failed to score in any of his appearances.
Sunderland also sold Pascal Chimbonda back to Tottenham earlier this week and manager Ricky Sbragia is hoping to use the funds raised to sign an experienced defender before Sunday's derby clash with Newcastle.
Allardyce meanwhile confirmed that Blackburn had rejected a fresh offer from Manchester City for their striker Roque Santa Cruz, but admitted he could not be certain of hanging on to the Paraguay international.
"Yes, City have made another bid," he said. "We have considered it and it's not been accepted but whether they come back before Monday's 5pm deadline, I've no idea."
City's latest offer valued Santa Cruz at 18.5 million pounds, according to reports, and Blackburn's resolve to keep the forward is almost certain to be tested again over the weekend.
The 27-year-old has made it clear he would like to leave Blackburn for City, now managed by former Rovers boss Mark Hughes.
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I forget
dat shit side Sunderland is one of the Chosen Ones!
*see signature*
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nice Disgruntled ;D
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2-1 sunderland...KJ and Carlos ;D
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Kev...while watching the Sunderland v Fulham game i swore i heard
A "Viva Kenwyne Jones" Chant...to the tune of Viva Ronaldo
do you have the lyrics for it?
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Kev...while watching the Sunderland v Fulham game i swore i heard
A "Viva Kenwyne Jones" Chant...to the tune of Viva Ronaldo
do you have the lyrics for it?
Don't think I would go that far and suggest lyrics.
super kenwyne jones
super kenwyne jones
our caribbean king
hear the sunlun sing
super kenwyne jones
Match is Sunday this week KO 1.30 Should be plenty of links, but the EPL have been stamping them out so you may find some of the more well known ones are no longer showing EPL games.
Newcastle will be without Owen and Barton on Sunday and looked poor against a very average looking Man City, but everything goes out of the window in this game, just hope we turn up this time unlike last year.
As for Diouf, well that has been going to happen for weeks, he isn't really going to get a game here, he really suits being played in a 4411 formation and he is not really a midfiled player. Give the lad his due he asked to move to play week in week out rather than sit on the bench, too many players happy to pick up far too much money for not playing.
Still no signs of the promised signings from the new manager who hates transfer dealing, big suprise. Need a few wins could be a very long and trying end to the season, ah well nothing I haven't seen before.
Liverpool are upset at Redknapp now for unsettling (trying) and have written to Spurs about it.
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Kev...while watching the Sunderland v Fulham game i swore i heard
A "Viva Kenwyne Jones" Chant...to the tune of Viva Ronaldo
do you have the lyrics for it?
Don't think I would go that far and suggest lyrics.
super kenwyne jones
super kenwyne jones
our caribbean king
hear the sunlun sing
super kenwyne jones
Match is Sunday this week KO 1.30 Should be plenty of links, but the EPL have been stamping them out so you may find some of the more well known ones are no longer showing EPL games.
Newcastle will be without Owen and Barton on Sunday and looked poor against a very average looking Man City, but everything goes out of the window in this game, just hope we turn up this time unlike last year.
As for Diouf, well that has been going to happen for weeks, he isn't really going to get a game here, he really suits being played in a 4411 formation and he is not really a midfiled player. Give the lad his due he asked to move to play week in week out rather than sit on the bench, too many players happy to pick up far too much money for not playing.
Still no signs of the promised signings from the new manager who hates transfer dealing, big suprise. Need a few wins could be a very long and trying end to the season, ah well nothing I haven't seen before.
Liverpool are upset at Redknapp now for unsettling (trying) and have written to Spurs about it.
thanks...hopefully our fans can sing it vs Honduras
i like Viva instead of super though
Viva Kenwyne Jones
Viva Kenwyne Jones
Give him the ball and he will score
Hear the Warriors Roar
Viva Kenwyne Jones
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too many players happy to pick up far too much money for not playing.
With Diouf gone Sunderland still needs to offload several more players. I think they have the largest squad in the premiership(not the deepest). Why do you need 6 goalkeepers and 9 forwards on your books.
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too many players happy to pick up far too much money for not playing.
With Diouf gone Sunderland still needs to offload several more players. I think they have the largest squad in the premiership(not the deepest). Why do you need 6 goalkeepers and 9 forwards on your books.
We have 5 keepers, the reason that came about was Fulop was due to sign for Stoke so we brought in Colgan as 3rd choice, but the move fell through at the last minute (just aswell really) so we ended up with both. Carson is only a kid with potential and has been out on loan. Fulops contract is up at the end of the season and Ward's is not far behind.
9 Forwards well Keane liked his forwards.
Prica simply isn't upto scratch and has been trying for a move back home.
Connolly has been long term injured and his contract is up at the end of the season.
He bought Healy when KJ was injured and thought he might be missing for the season, also Waghorn had a knee injury and Chopra had personal problems with his wife / rum.
Waghorn is just a kid.
O'Donovan was Irish gamble (Irish owners) not upto prem standard
Murphy is really a winger not a forward and not prem standard
Dowson is again a youth / kid
Stokes was bought in the Championship young with potential who seems intent on just wasting it on being a big man / thinking he is better than he is / doesn't work and will just slip down the leagues
Chopra could of gone either way with his issues but looks well out of favour, rumours around being a worky ticket.
Badly need to trim the squad of a lot of players, that are on teh books from 2 years ago and won't shift, good money that other clubs won't match. It is busy doing that now, quite a few only have 1 year etc left on their contracts. Sunderland have about 8 youth players listed in the squad that are too old for the youths but probably are too soon to say whether they will make it or not. The club really needs to get it down to around 22 players plus the youths so I would imagine around 30 is the right number. Too many not good enough players costing too much money, I suspect that is why we haven't seen any incoming players so far.
An addition to the Diuof sale stories are appearing there was a big fight between him and Ferninand after Fulham in which Diouff threatened to stab him, so he was sold. How much truth there is in it I don't know. But there was a rumour that 3 of them where at it in the tunnel Ferninad, Diuof and Cisse (on Diouf's side). Worrying because the club is showing all the signs of having a weak, indecisive and confused manager at the minute and avoiding relegation is becoming more of a hope than any confidence in whats happening at the minute. I think we are just lucky that we have Kenwyne, Malbranque, Cisse and Richardson that are likely to add that bit more than others around the bottom, here's hoping anyway.
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well lets hope for a poor performance from Sunderland today...
normally brings about 3 points. ;)
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well lets hope for a poor performance from Sunderland today...
normally brings about 3 points. ;)
They playing tomorrow. ;D
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right then
Go Sunderland
Cisse 1 - 0 N'Castle
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link:
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/69470
(copy and paste into your broswer -sopcast needed)
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link 2
http://athe-net-tv.blogspot.com/2008/12/setanta-sports-tvuplayerx21501-600-500.html
need tvu player installed
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link:
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/69470
(copy and paste into your broswer -sopcast needed)
:beermug:
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link:
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/69470
(copy and paste into your broswer -sopcast needed)
:beermug:
CB, It on "theScore (http://www.thescore.com/)" in Canada
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link:
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/69470
(copy and paste into your broswer -sopcast needed)
:beermug:
CB, It on "The Score" in Canada
hahaha thanks! my link just died!!!
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good link here too: http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sun1.2/Newcastle_Sunderland2.html (http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sun1.2/Newcastle_Sunderland2.html)
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KJ in a nasty clash
he not lookin too good.......may come off
knee on knee knock
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fleckin wild man lol
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fleckin wild man lol
why he ent jump out the way.....easy for me to say from here I guess
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shit penalty stueps
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the one thing i love about football is when a goal score man does be jumping up and down like if they win the cup or something :rotfl: they just show a replay of fans, manager, everybody was full of joy!!!
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Jones looks ok...just had a little run but mishit his shot...
Off topic, but what a day: Aussie Open final, Tyne Wear derby, Liverpool v Chelsea, then the Superbowl..aahhh
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couldve smell that coming ... Sunderland playing the highest quality sh!te.
Almost everytime Sunderland give away the ball in Newcastle half, it was Malbranque making a sh!t pass.
... and Carlos not impressing either. He and his twin Richardson competing for the bigger pile.
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couldve smell that coming ... Sunderland playing the highest quality sh!te.
Almost everytime Sunderland give away the ball in Newcastle half, it was Malbranque making a sh!t pass.
... and Carlos not impressing either. He and his twin Richardson competing for the bigger pile.
I thought is only me thought that Richardson and Carlos does look alike :rotfl:
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either Jones bun or he still feeling the effects of the knock earlier on
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Jones looks ok...just had a little run but mishit his shot...
Off topic, but what a day: Aussie Open final, Tyne Wear derby, Liverpool v Chelsea, then the Superbowl..aahhh
u forget River - Boca
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Jones looks ok...just had a little run but mishit his shot...
Off topic, but what a day: Aussie Open final, Tyne Wear derby, Liverpool v Chelsea, then the Superbowl..aahhh
u forget River - Boca
Oh yeah! Thx :beermug:
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game updates?
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1-1 FT :beermug:
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1-1 .... but I can't believe Reid couldn't at least hit the target with that last shot.
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nice hustling jones
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Tough day for Carlos defensively didn't get too many chances going forward, dat man Gutierrez for Newcastle play real ball today down d left.
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I don't understand how all dem bottom feeding teams like Bolton, Fulham... ect. does be selling off they best players to teams they can actually compete with or can over take. Where is the ambition? How they hell Bolton could sell Nolan to Newcastle or Fulham sell Bullard to Hull?
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I don't understand how all dem bottom feeding teams like Bolton, Fulham... ect. does be selling off they best players to teams they can actually compete with or can over take. Where is the ambition? How they hell Bolton could sell Nolan to Newcastle or Fulham sell Bullard to Hull?
I think is a matter of money talks.
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I don't understand how all dem bottom feeding teams like Bolton, Fulham... ect. does be selling off they best players to teams they can actually compete with or can over take. Where is the ambition? How they hell Bolton could sell Nolan to Newcastle or Fulham sell Bullard to Hull?
Nolan hasn't been playing that well at Bolton, probably just gone stale as he is a decent player.
Bullard 30 plus got £5 Million and a 4.5 year contract.
Other teams have to sell to survive Wigan, Blackburn etc. they haven't the money to compete so survival is the key and turn over players to keep them there, hopefully for a profit. Its just teh way the EPL works.
Typical Derby thought the game was there for the taking, we seemed to come out 2nd half wanting to keep it 1-0 (never with our defence). Didn't think it was a penalty or at most a very soft one. Seen the Kenwyne tackle and my heart stopped tbh, I thought it was bad initially. These games are mostly like that, but thought Malbranque played badly which is unusual. Richardson & Carlos aswell. Lot of headless chicken stuff, defensively poor again.
Looks like have signed Ben Hiam. (hope he is better than he has been at City)
It also looks like Keane is off to Spurs and Bent might be on his way to Sunderland.
Sbragia is also said another defender expected.
All this said on post match interview.
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once again..they felt the wrath of the official....
the ref got it wrong, imo
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once again..they felt the wrath of the official....
the ref got it wrong, imo
Push down Malbranque, then dive to the ground.
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once again..they felt the wrath of the official....
the ref got it wrong, imo
Push down Malbranque, then dive to the ground.
how about slow ass Malbranque who play sh!t whole game, get leave out and make a clumsy half hearted challenge
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i missed the game but it sounds like edwards didn't do anything today hope he wasn't that bad that he may of hurt his chances of increasing his play time. am sure he got a couple of balls in the box right ??? and a few runs down the wing ???
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i missed the game but it sounds like edwards didn't do anything today hope he wasn't that bad that he may of hurt his chances of increasing his play time. am sure he got a couple of balls in the box right ??? and a few runs down the wing ???
he had one, in the first half - get sub off right after the Newcastle goal.
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Jones looks ok...just had a little run but mishit his shot...
Off topic, but what a day: Aussie Open final, Tyne Wear derby, Liverpool v Chelsea, then the Superbowl..aahhh
u forget River - Boca
Lazio vs Milan today also.
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once again..they felt the wrath of the official....
the ref got it wrong, imo
Push down Malbranque, then dive to the ground.
how about slow ass Malbranque who play sh!t whole game, get leave out and make a clumsy half hearted challenge
dat was a blatant dive...no matter what angle u watch it from....
he got lucky but say wha, dais the game
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i missed the game but it sounds like edwards didn't do anything today hope he wasn't that bad that he may of hurt his chances of increasing his play time. am sure he got a couple of balls in the box right ??? and a few runs down the wing ???
He was equally as bad as Malbranque, his main competition for the right wing.
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Jones looks ok...just had a little run but mishit his shot...
Off topic, but what a day: Aussie Open final, Tyne Wear derby, Liverpool v Chelsea, then the Superbowl..aahhh
u forget River - Boca
Lazio vs Milan today also.
ah hopin lazio giv meh ah lil help out tuhday...dis game goin an be good
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I wonder what are the origins of Cisse's celebration style.
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one better than none.
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one better than none.
agreed :beermug:
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The ref was a total WANKER.
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Ben Haim to Sunderland ..... Bent could be on the way
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01022009/1/cats-claws-ben-haim.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01022009/1/cats-claws-ben-haim.html)
...Ricky Sbragia revealed he is close to signing Tal Ben Haim from Manchester City after seeing Sunderland earn a 1-1 draw with Newcastle.Speaking after Sunday's derby at St James' Park, Sbragia denied he was poised to sign Darren Bent from Tottenham, but said: "The one we've done is Tal Ben Haim. I think that's going to be done.
"We need a defender and he's a good defender. I've worked with him previously and I know what I'm getting."
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Ooops .. official!!
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01022009/1/cats-purring-bagging-ben-haim.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01022009/1/cats-purring-bagging-ben-haim.html)
Sunderland have bolstered their defensive options by signing Manchester City's Tal Ben Haim on loan until the end of the Premier League season.The 26-year-old Israel international completed his switch to the Stadium of Light on Sunday night, just hours after Ricky Sbragia's side drew 1-1 with Newcastle in the Tyne-Wear derby.
Ben Haim, who started his career in England at Sbragia's former club Bolton before moving to Chelsea in July 2007 on a free transfer after rejecting the chance to join Sam Allardyce at Newcastle, has been drafted in to bolster the club's defensive resources.
Sbragia told Sunderland's official website: "It's a position we have been short in so I'm delighted that Tal has joined us.
"I know all about him from his days at Bolton. He's got a lot of top-flight experience and he will be a great addition to our squad."
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http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-7457413545722095413&hl=en&fs=true
http://www.videohighlights.net/01022009-newcastle-sunderland-1-1-premier-league/
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Danny Collins: Sunderland Were Cheated By 'A Terrible Decision' From Howard Webb
The Black Cats' Welsh defender has reacted with outrage to a key refereeing decision in today's Tyne-Wear derby at St James' Park...
Sunderland centre-back Danny Collins is feeling indignant after a key decision in Sunday's 1-1 draw with Newcastle United at St James' Park.
Referee Howard Webb controversially awarded a penalty to the home side when Magpies defender Steven Taylor went tumbling in the penalty area under a challenge from Steed Malbranque. Collins is angry, as he feels that it was an obvious dive from the Geordie player that should have been spotted by the referee.
"It was a terrible decision," the Welshman is reporting as asserting in The Daily Telegraph. "Steed sort of stumbled over himself, Stevie has gone on another yard and fell over.
"I said to the linesman afterwards 'How come you never flagged?’ and he said he radioed it to the ref. I accepted it at the time because there’s a lot of bodies there and I couldn’t really see it. But I just saw it now on TV."
Collins also called on a slightly unusual witness to back his case, claiming that Damien Duff, who had been booked minutes earlier for diving under a penalty box challenge from Sunderland's Anton Ferdinand. Collins claims that Duff offered commiseration that the decision hadn't gone the Mackems' way.
"Duff himself said 'It was a worse dive than mine’. He actually said that to me," Collins went on.
"Perhaps the fact that it was a few minutes after the Duff incident swayed him a little bit. The ref gave one or two things that were a bit soft in the second half."
Meanwhile, Collins will face increased competition for his place in the Sunderland line-up from this evening, as the Black Cats completed the signing of Tal Ben Haim on loan from Manchester City.
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big game for Sunderland tomorrow.
Big for KJ as well.
He very well knows that he is not at top form and is disappointing the Sunderland and T&T fans big time.
This is almost a crossroad in his career.
He can live up to the hype and deliver when it matters most and turn his form around for the remainder of the season, or continue on this level and finish up a very forgettable season.
If he doesnt come good soon, he could very well be seen as a player who could be sold to get proven goalscorer to replace him.
A good performance vs man U could also see Fergie paying closer tabs, as Man u have a habit of snapping up players who do well against them in the premiership.
This is where yuh get paid the big bucks. Time to step up and show what you are made of.
An average premiership attacker (still the accomplishments of a lifetime) or the higer levels reserved for the elite.
Your teams needs saving tomorrow, as well as your season.
Best of luck.
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interesting as to fergies team selection given that they have an all important game on wednesday and..... they are not in the driver's seat.
sunderland may come thusty as relegation beckoning and jones may feel he needs to silence some nay sayers. this may be a manu rout or sunderland hanging onto the ropes 4 dear life. only time will tell.
rest 1 on them jones.
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If Kenwyne was not Trinidadian more people than not, would have callin him overated! Which he is! He needs tuh change positions tuh a more defensive role if he dos not plan on improving the skills necessary to produce as a forward. Who vex, vex!
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man u winnin 4-1 KJ to score. ;D
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If Kenwyne was not Trinidadian more people than not, would have callin him overated! Which he is! He needs tuh change positions tuh a more defensive role if he dos not plan on improving the skills necessary to produce as a forward. Who vex, vex!
Well said...d man now learning tuh play forward at soca warriors expense...man u 2 - sun 0
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If Kenwyne was not Trinidadian more people than not, would have callin him overated! Which he is! He needs tuh change positions tuh a more defensive role if he dos not plan on improving the skills necessary to produce as a forward. Who vex, vex!
Been saying that for a while. He not seeming any more like a true forward after a few years. strength and size could only carry yuh so far. Maybe defensive midfield to brutalize and command some fear?
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i actually think he in his best position. he alot 2 do still but i thin khe is in the right position
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Kenwyne ever make any comments recently about his lack of form of late? Surely Sunderland news reporters would have interviewed him about this....Oddly enough I think the decline started soon after he signed his new 4 year contract. He scored a goal in the game right after signing and after that is SALT!!!
Right now this youngster's confidence must be down in the dumps....but he have to realize that these clubs are businesses and if yuh not producing the goods yuh will lose yuh wuk in short time....He should be working harder than most on the training pitch trying to perfect his skills as a striker. Most of his goals were headers and lots of times they weren't that spectacular. De man have to get more ruthless in front of goal....I remember he used to run at defenders at the youth level...where dat gone? Have the English managers changed his game that much that he lost all skill and now only know how to head de ball? It reach to the point where he not even trappin de ball properly... like he forget how to use he foot.
I always support my soca warrior players....so I hope he can improve his performances starting with this game against Man U tomorrow. If however he has another bad game and his form for the rest of the season is poor....he has to hope that Sunderland does not get relegated, so that way he can work hard on his deficiencies over the summer....bcz I'm pretty sure if they remain in the premiership they are probably going to make a few buys over the summer...Strikers are definitely going to be top priority!!!
Good luck tomorrow to Kenwyne and Carlos!!! Hopefully Dwight can at least be on the bench and run out for a few minutes as well!!
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Ah well what can I say, but pray for a surprise.
Sbragia has been his usual negative self this week and dwight has suggested in the papers he plays him, so I wouldn't be too shocked to see him in the team. The players seem to be running the club at the minute. Only at Sunderland.
http://www.safc.com/news/team-news-tainio-returns.html
George McCartney (calf) is ruled out of Sunderland's game against Manchester United while David Healy (groin) and Dean Whitehead (calf) are unlikely to feature.
Nyron Nosworthy is back in the squad after recovering from a hamstring injury and Teemu Tainio returns from a knee problem.
Loan defender Calum Davenport, who was ineligible to play against parent club West Ham last weekend, is available.
Carlos Edwards is pushing for a start and Kenwyne Jones is likely to return to Sunderland's line-up.
Sunderland (from): Gordon, Fulop, Bardsley, Ferdinand, Nosworthy, Ben-Haim, Davenport, Collins, McShane, Tainio, Whitehead, Leadbitter, Yorke, Edwards, Malbranque, Richardson, Reid, Jones, Cisse, Murphy, Healy.
As it is Manu there are quite a few foriegn sat channels carrying it so there should be no problems finding a working link.
As always not confirmed so if they don't work, my apologies.
http://atdhe.net/live-tv-6160.html
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=35320&part=sports
http://www.justin.tv/manutdpeople
http://www.justin.tv/stdreamer
Hope everybody has a good easter, don't eat too many chocolate eggs ;D
Edit
Sorry just notices KJ v Manu thread, please feel free to move this.
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I remember he used to run at defenders at the youth level...where dat gone?
Kinda hard to do as a Centre Back?
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what time this starting ?
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what time this starting ?
10am on Setanta
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what time this starting ?
10am on Setanta
thanks :beermug:
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KJ have a lot of potential in that position. He needs to learn the position better, based on his abilities. What KJ has not had is the coaching to develop those qualities. If KJ was at a club like Ajax, PSV, Arsenal, Hamburg, ManU etc you would see more balance and development in his play.
Lets face it it eh go happen at Sunderland.
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personally, i believe if Sunderland get demoted, it won't be that bad for T&T.
History has shown us that we have achieved more when the majority of our players were not playing at the top level (1989 and 2005).
When we had men starring for Man U every week, and first choice keeper for Portsmouth/Newcastle or even Stern at Birmingham, they were vast underachievers in national colours.
I dont know if there was added tension in the team as these men would have seemed to be on a totally different superstar level.
When men was fighting up in Championship and First Division (Stern, Birchall, Lawrence, Sancho, Edwards etc etc) we did better.
To me the real benefit of the premiership was seeing our players week in, week out on tv, agasint some of the best in the world. But this week-in week-out against the best in the world it seemed never really helped T&T at the time.
Plus i always find is like more drame to get players released when they in Premiership.....
Good for sunderland = bad for T&T
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I remember he used to run at defenders at the youth level...where dat gone?
Kinda hard to do as a Centre Back?
I don't know about youth level, but at Southampton he wasn't just scoring headers and leaping all over the place. They had a passing game. They played the ball on the ground and to Kenwyne's feet. He ran at defenders more regularly. Granted his touch was never great but his footwork was decent and his shooting was much better than it is now. It's almost like Sunderland are "playing to his strength in the air" so much that he's out of practice using his feet now.
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A good performance vs man U could also see Fergie paying closer tabs, as Man u have a habit of snapping up players who do well against them in the premiership.
Get real.
No way would Man Utd buy a striker with such poor foot skills.
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A good performance vs man U could also see Fergie paying closer tabs, as Man u have a habit of snapping up players who do well against them in the premiership.
Get real.
No way would Man Utd buy a striker with such poor foot skills.
Whey de F&*K you come out from ???
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Edwards and Jones starting, Yorkie on the bench!
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Wow...Carlos might really be back to top form he starting and Richardson not even on the bench...hopefully we see Dwight come on today. ;)
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Wow...Carlos might really be back to top form he starting and Richardson not even on the bench...hopefully we see Dwight come on today. ;)
Richardson injured apparently. And Malbranque has been shit recently. So hopefully Carlos can grab this chance.
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So far the game plan for Sunderland seems to be have the keeper play it long and then pass it back down the field to the keeper, who plays it long again. Man U just waiting for the errant pass.
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KJ touch let him down there in a good position.
Better nex time.
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Goal #1
Scholes with the header
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woodup
goal :(
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boom boom , goal
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That header went into the V!
Short men scorin headers against Sunderland lol.
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its easy when defenders marking grass instead of players. but timing has a lot to do with headers
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any links workin
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any links workin
ya might find sumting here
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=35320&part=sports
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any links workin
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=35320&part=sports
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this one working for me not english though...
http://www.justin.tv/silvar_tv1/popout
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thank, bless
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The TVants Setanta stream workin for me.
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carlos playing good
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The TVants Setanta stream workin for me.
o word why in the world it not working for me then steuupss let me check again...
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i now started watching but it look like Sunderland controlling the game...
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LORD CARLOS RIPPING UP
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try this link...not english tho :P
http://liveballlive-tv2.blogspot.com/
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Man U looking ordinary.
Sunderland in this one.
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Keeper's BEST FRIEND
nice one Carlos
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everytime the camera go to the bench yuh only seeing yorke teeth
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sun ent lookin too bad man.
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sun ent lookin too bad man.
TODAY yes
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sun ent lookin too bad man.
TODAY yes
;D
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Poor defending on the goal, but in the 2nd half of the 1st half thought Sunderland put some good attacks together and perhaps were a bit unlucky not to equalize w/the one that came off the inside of the post. Not enough intensity for me in the 1st 20-25 mins of the 1st half and for the life of me the midfield seems to be late getting it's defensive formation together on Utd attacks putting alot of pressure on their defence
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KJ have a lot of potential in that position. He needs to learn the position better, based on his abilities. What KJ has not had is the coaching to develop those qualities. If KJ was at a club like Ajax, PSV, Arsenal, Hamburg, ManU etc you would see more balance and development in his play.
Lets face it it eh go happen at Sunderland.
Apparently he disagrees with you or else he would not have reupped with Sundrland. Do you think he would have improved @ spurs?
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KJ have a lot of potential in that position. He needs to learn the position better, based on his abilities. What KJ has not had is the coaching to develop those qualities. If KJ was at a club like Ajax, PSV, Arsenal, Hamburg, ManU etc you would see more balance and development in his play.
Lets face it it eh go happen at Sunderland.
Apparently he disagrees with you or else he would not have reupped with Sundrland. Do you think he would have improved @ spurs?
what observer saying is true....de man cyar improve dey.....I find he does look like ah pub player dese days
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Jones!
That man is one snake! ;D
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JONEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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JONES with the equaliser
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
thank you sah
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Lets see if they can hold on.
I looking for 5 minutes of extra time if this game still tied in the 88th...
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Lets see if they can hold on.
I looking for 5 minutes of extra time if this game still tied in the 88th...
:rotfl:
no matter what eh ;D
dem refs ent shame :devil:
all Sunderland have to do then, is get a couple more :D
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Pressure!
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middelssborugh like they winnin their game..at least a draw go keep dem out de drop zone..
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click here for EPL Live Table (http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/tables/premiership.html)
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bardsely looks as a solid rb
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chelsea 4 nil up and terry try to hands a ball to prevent it from going in his net, good thing he missed. 4-1
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Oh lawd. Calamity McShane.
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wtf :devil:
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Wicked deflection.
We back to 2 minutes of stoppage time
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Wicked deflection.
We back to 2 minutes of stoppage time
lol
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Dis is one bad-lucky team, yes.
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Crap it... stupid goal
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anybody watching this Chelsea game?
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ah cutting in like a spanish station. chelse jus concede 3 quick goals. its now 4-3 with 12 mins to play
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ah cutting in like a spanish station. chelse jus concede 3 quick goals. its now 4-3 with 12 mins to play
yuh lie
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wham dem playin fifa 09?
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no.19
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ah cutting in like a spanish station.
:rotfl:
long time I ent hear that
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4 Minutes!
Where all that time come from?
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4 mins injury time fergie yuh slipping
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Back on top :devil:, good work jones :beermug:
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dais the best match I have seen Sunderland play in a long while
too bad no points
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Dang edwards with that cross how u cross the ball to the stands steups... sucks they couldn't get none from this game...
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de bolton chelsea game real excitin,bolton really unlucky today too.final 4-3
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Federico ooh ooh,
Federico ooh ooh ooh ooh,
He came from Italy,
And gave us victory,
Federico ooh ooh...
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Men signing vs Sunderland yes. Next up Ma Pau.
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Men signing vs Sunderland yes. Next up Ma Pau.
:rotfl: good one...
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see you in the championship division next season
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Dang i really hope not nah they got sum teams they could beat Hull next if they eh win that they in real trouble.
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I thought a draw would of been about the right result but not to be.
KJ scored but didn't play that well
I thought Carlos did well in parts, but didn't endear himself much to teh fans in bottling 2/3 fairly easy challenges, his leg must still be on his mind a little.
Need to beat Hull & WBA next 2 games.
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KJ's goal:
http://www.viddler.com/player/c22d9aa7
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Man United looking real ordinary.
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I vex now. How de hell we cah get balls like that to KJ where he can use his height advantage to have some sensible goal attempts?
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Sunderland v Chelsea Last game for the 2008/09 season.
Links ?
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=39047&part=sports
http://www.atdhe.net/
http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4a0d017b77088
I am grateful for Sunderland, they have been a great club to T&T.
But I also believe if they get relegated it might be the best thing for Kenwyne Jones, he needs to be around better players and a better coach.
Talking about Sunderland, they need a better coach and I hope Dwight Yorke stays on their coaching staff as an assistant next season.
Hopefully Carlos Edwards will make a surprise move to some Premiership team. I know he still have a few years in him. And if he stays with Sunderland, then that's ok too.
Good luck to Sunderland, you will have to come better next season, you have the players to do better.
But the brand you currently play is piss poor.
Lets go Sunderland !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PREMIER LEAGUE
Venue: Stadium of Light Date: Sunday, 24 May Kick-off: 1600 BST
Coverage: Score updates on Final Score, BBC Sport website and BBC Radio 5 Live; live text commentary on BBC Sport website; Highlights on Match of the Day
Teams news to follow later.
Make your Premier League predictions
BIG-MATCH FACTS
Sunderland go into another last day decider, fighting for their Premier League lives. They will be safe if they at least match the results of Newcastle at Aston Villa and Hull, home to Manchester United.
FA Cup finalists Chelsea must win and hope that Liverpool lose, home to Tottenham with a six-goal swing, if they're to finish runners-up for the third year in a row.
This fixture pits the Premier League's most wasteful club against the one with the meanest defence; the Black Cats have flittered away an unequalled 23 points from winning positions, while Chelsea have conceded just 22 goals all season.
The Wearsiders have never won a last day fixture in Premier League history and have lost the last three; the West Londoners have not experienced an end-of-season victory since 2004 (home to Leeds).
Chelsea won the reverse fixture 5-0 on 1 November to go top of the table. Alex opened the scoring with the Blues' 1,000th Premier League goal, Frank Lampard scored his 100th league goal and Nicolas Anelka got a hat-trick.
Chelsea are setting their sights on beating Sunderland for the ninth successive time in the Premier League, and taking their undefeated run against them to 10 games. Only two goals have been conceded by the Londoners in the previous nine meetings, scoring 21.
Distance between the clubs: 291 miles (468 kilometres)
Chelsea will be making the longest journey on any Premier League club on this final day of the season.
CLUB FORM
SUNDERLAND
Club stats
16th 36 points
Highest achievable: 16th (Merit payment: £3,800,000)
Lowest could fall: 18th (£2,280,000)
Best & Worst categories in 2008-09 Premier League
1. Won one of the last 12 Premier League matches; 1-0, home to Hull on 18 April.
2. Not beaten a 'Big Four' club in this league since their 1-0 home success over Arsenal on 19 August 2000.
3. The 1-0 home win over Fulham on 27 January was their only maximum in the last eight top-flight matches against London clubs.
4. Lost 50% of their Premier League games under Ricky Sbragia (11 of 22).
5. Already lost home and away to Manchester United, Liverpool, Aston Villa, Everton, West Ham, Manchester City and Portsmouth; Chelsea could become the eighth club to also do the double over them.
CHELSEA
Club stats
3rd 80 points
Highest achievable: 2nd (Merit payment: £14,440,000)
Lowest could fall: 3rd (£13,680,000)
Best & Worst categories in 2008-09 Premier League
1. Picked up 19 points out of the last 21, and won 10 of 12 Premier League games, including the last four, losing one of 13.
2. Won 10, drawn one and lost one of their 12 top-flight games under Guus Hiddink.
3. Victory would equal the 25 wins accrued last season, but third place would be their lowest finish for six years.
4. Not conceded a single goal to a North-East club this season, scoring a total of 17 in the five games.
5. Already done the double over Aston Villa, Manchester City, Wigan, Stoke, Bolton, Portsmouth, Blackburn, Middlesbrough and West Brom; Sunderland could become the 10th club they've beaten home and away this term.
KEY PLAYER NOTES
SUNDERLAND
Squad profiles
Djibril CISSE is the club's top Premier League scorer with 10 goals.
If selected:-
Dean WHITEHEAD will be making his 200th appearance for Sunderland.
Nick COLGAN will be keeping goal in his 250th English and Scottish league game (Chelsea, Brentford, Reading, Hibernian, Stockport, Barnsley, Dundee United and Wigan).
CHELSEA
Squad profiles
Nicolas ANEKLA is Chelsea's top Premier League scorer with 18 goals, and the joint leader with Manchester United's Cristiano RONALDO for the Barclays Golden Boot.
Frank LAMPARD is the only remaining player to have started all of Chelsea's Premier League matches this season.
If selected:-
Petr CECH will be keeping goal for the 150th time for Chelsea in a Premier League match.
HEAD TO HEAD
Chelsea are aiming to take their away Premier League winning streak against Sunderland to four matches.
The Wearsiders have not prevailed against Chelsea in eight years. Peter Reid's side won 2-4 at Stamford Bridge on 17 March 2001, to complete the double having won the reverse fixture at the Stadium of Light 1-0 on 14 October 2000, when Kevin Phillips secured the points from the penalty spot.
Sunderland need to score once to total 100 home league goals against Chelsea.
Home and away
League (inc PL): Sunderland 35 wins, Chelsea 48, Draws 20
Prem: Sunderland 4 wins, Chelsea 10, Draws 1
at Sunderland only
League (inc PL): Sunderland 28 wins, Chelsea 14, Draws 9
Prem: Sunderland 3 wins, Chelsea 3, Draws 1
LAST SEASON'S CORRESPONDING GAME
Sunderland 0-1 Chelsea
15 March 2008 - Ref: Mike Dean
Chelsea scorer: Terry 10
THIS SEASON'S REVERSE FIXTURE
Chelsea 5-0 Sunderland
1 November 2008 - Ref: Martin Atkinson
Chelsea scorers: Alex 27, Anelka 30, 45, Lampard 51, Anelka 53
REFEREE
Mark Halsey (Lancashire)
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as much as i would like de black cats to win this one,ah cyar see it happennin.
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hiddink saying he playing ah strong squad
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as much as i would like de black cats to win this one,ah cyar see it happennin.
Cosign
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Kenwyne's last game with Sunderland :devil:
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hiddink saying he playing ah strong squad
and Anelka looking to win golden boot award
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Kenwyne's last game with Sunderland :devil:
If the price is right ;)
no chance
Just hope the other results go our way, ridiculous should of been done and dusted ages ago. >:(
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had to get this back to the first page. Its game day for crying out loud.
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had to get this back to the first page. Its game day for crying out loud.
Thanks was looking for this taught it was started up already...
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Sunderland will lose but I think the other results will go their way.
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Terry have jones under manners
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Terry have jones under manners
with one boot tied behind his back?
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Newcastle and Hull losing 1-nil...
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1 nil chelsea
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richardson with d equaliser
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http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/tables/premiership.html
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Hull C. 0 - 1 Manchester U.
West Ham U. 2 - 1 Middlesbrough
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Newcastle U.
Sunderland 1 - 1 Chelsea
still playing
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sunderland rel lucky the other scores going there way
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jones score ;D 3-2 now , sunderland behind 90 min
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Sunderland Safe Newcastle relegated
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Same old same old against a team that never really got out of 1st gear.
Survived because of the failings of others the footballers (can't call it a team, they haven't looked like a team all season) are spineless, leaderless and clueless. But live to fight another season with a very different team I hope and a proper manager / coaches.
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Same old same old against a team that never really got out of 1st gear.
Survived because of the failings of others the footballers (can't call it a team, they haven't looked like a team all season) are spineless, leaderless and clueless. But live to fight another season with a very different team I hope and a proper manager / coaches.
kev, are you really a SAFC supporter or a critic? what do u really expect from these blokes? be thankful that they've for yet another season in top flight...and hopefully with carlos and jones exit next season...they would make a top 10 finish...what the heck...let's go for broke..maybe a european spot :beermug:
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Same old same old against a team that never really got out of 1st gear.
Survived because of the failings of others the footballers (can't call it a team, they haven't looked like a team all season) are spineless, leaderless and clueless. But live to fight another season with a very different team I hope and a proper manager / coaches.
kev, are you really a SAFC supporter or a critic? what do u really expect from these blokes? be thankful that they've for yet another season in top flight...and hopefully with carlos and jones exit next season...they would make a top 10 finish...what the heck...let's go for broke..maybe a european spot :beermug:
A supporter who tells it the way I see it, more than done my stint with rose tinted glasses the size of 5 jam jars where nobody at the club could do no wrong.
For players on £30/40/50K per week I expect them to be able to find a player in teh same shirt more often that not, to be able to trap a bag of cement and generally be passable at their jobs, at to that just a little enthusiam, pride and belief. Unfortunately I am obviously expecting far too much.
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Same old same old against a team that never really got out of 1st gear.
Survived because of the failings of others the footballers (can't call it a team, they haven't looked like a team all season) are spineless, leaderless and clueless. But live to fight another season with a very different team I hope and a proper manager / coaches.
kev, are you really a SAFC supporter or a critic? what do u really expect from these blokes? be thankful that they've for yet another season in top flight...and hopefully with carlos and jones exit next season...they would make a top 10 finish...what the heck...let's go for broke..maybe a european spot :beermug:
A supporter who tells it the way I see it, more than done my stint with rose tinted glasses the size of 5 jam jars where nobody at the club could do no wrong.
For players on £30/40/50K per week I expect them to be able to find a player in teh same shirt more often that not, to be able to trap a bag of cement and generally be passable at their jobs, at to that just a little enthusiam, pride and belief. Unfortunately I am obviously expecting far too much.
So Carlos and Kenwyne are to be blamed for the poor showing of the SAFC? What happen to the other nine players on the field and the bench players who get in the game? This is not a doubles tennis match. Of course the team needs many good players. Most of the team are only Championship caliber players. So yes there is blame to go around but don't blame ony Carlos and Kenwyne.
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Only Spurs interested in KJ. Who is interested in Carlos????
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Only Spurs interested in KJ. Who is interested in Carlos????
Wolves wanted him i dunno if that gone change now or not and lol Newcastle might be able to use him Carlos is on another level when he in the championship even though i hope he stay in the Premier League next season... Anyhow u look at it i think clubs in the championship have a lot of respect for Edwards so even if Sunderland release him am sure he will fine a new club with no problem.
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Same old same old against a team that never really got out of 1st gear.
Survived because of the failings of others the footballers (can't call it a team, they haven't looked like a team all season) are spineless, leaderless and clueless. But live to fight another season with a very different team I hope and a proper manager / coaches.
kev, are you really a SAFC supporter or a critic? what do u really expect from these blokes? be thankful that they've for yet another season in top flight...and hopefully with carlos and jones exit next season...they would make a top 10 finish...what the heck...let's go for broke..maybe a european spot :beermug:
A supporter who tells it the way I see it, more than done my stint with rose tinted glasses the size of 5 jam jars where nobody at the club could do no wrong.
For players on £30/40/50K per week I expect them to be able to find a player in teh same shirt more often that not, to be able to trap a bag of cement and generally be passable at their jobs, at to that just a little enthusiam, pride and belief. Unfortunately I am obviously expecting far too much.
So Carlos and Kenwyne are to be blamed for the poor showing of the SAFC? What happen to the other nine players on the field and the bench players who get in the game? This is not a doubles tennis match. Of course the team needs many good players. Most of the team are only Championship caliber players. So yes there is blame to go around but don't blame ony Carlos and Kenwyne.
Where you see he single out Carlos and Kenwyne? Some ah allyuh real trigger happy, boy. De man talking bout de team in general. Carlos didn't even play today.
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Only Spurs interested in KJ. Who is interested in Carlos????
Wolves wanted him i dunno if that gone change now or not and lol Newcastle might be able to use him Carlos is on another level when he in the championship even though i hope he stay in the Premier League next season... Anyhow u look at it i think clubs in the championship have a lot of respect for Edwards so even if Sunderland release him am sure he will fine a new club with no problem.
Calos staying @ sunderland boy! they don't have a right winger, and if they get one in the transfer window they would most likely need ah back up winger.
i feel collins, murphy, cisse, mc shane, davenport, whitehead, malbraunc may get traded. but bardsley, carlos, nosworthy, leadbitter, and healy will most likely stay on as back up players.
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Same old same old against a team that never really got out of 1st gear.
Survived because of the failings of others the footballers (can't call it a team, they haven't looked like a team all season) are spineless, leaderless and clueless. But live to fight another season with a very different team I hope and a proper manager / coaches.
kev, are you really a SAFC supporter or a critic? what do u really expect from these blokes? be thankful that they've for yet another season in top flight...and hopefully with carlos and jones exit next season...they would make a top 10 finish...what the heck...let's go for broke..maybe a european spot :beermug:
A supporter who tells it the way I see it, more than done my stint with rose tinted glasses the size of 5 jam jars where nobody at the club could do no wrong.
For players on £30/40/50K per week I expect them to be able to find a player in teh same shirt more often that not, to be able to trap a bag of cement and generally be passable at their jobs, at to that just a little enthusiam, pride and belief. Unfortunately I am obviously expecting far too much.
So Carlos and Kenwyne are to be blamed for the poor showing of the SAFC? What happen to the other nine players on the field and the bench players who get in the game? This is not a doubles tennis match. Of course the team needs many good players. Most of the team are only Championship caliber players. So yes there is blame to go around but don't blame ony Carlos and Kenwyne.
Where you see he single out Carlos and Kenwyne? Some ah allyuh real trigger happy, boy. De man talking bout de team in general. Carlos didn't even play today.
CB I didn't single out those 2 for any other reason than those are the only ones that hold any interest for this board.
I think there will be a big clear out and quite a few will go as they should, my only corncern being that the new manager will look at them in training where they might look good but can't cut it in a match, but I hope and believe you will see a much different side next season.
I can see Carlos either going to Wolves or rejoining Keane at Ipswich, I think Kenwyne will be at Spurs.
They are all to blame none less so than the manager, I am sorry you picked it up the way you have but it wasn't meant like that and think most people that have read my posts know I haven't singled those 2 out for any particular blame more than the others.
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Same old same old against a team that never really got out of 1st gear.
Survived because of the failings of others the footballers (can't call it a team, they haven't looked like a team all season) are spineless, leaderless and clueless. But live to fight another season with a very different team I hope and a proper manager / coaches.
kev, are you really a SAFC supporter or a critic? what do u really expect from these blokes? be thankful that they've for yet another season in top flight...and hopefully with carlos and jones exit next season...they would make a top 10 finish...what the heck...let's go for broke..maybe a european spot :beermug:
A supporter who tells it the way I see it, more than done my stint with rose tinted glasses the size of 5 jam jars where nobody at the club could do no wrong.
For players on £30/40/50K per week I expect them to be able to find a player in teh same shirt more often that not, to be able to trap a bag of cement and generally be passable at their jobs, at to that just a little enthusiam, pride and belief. Unfortunately I am obviously expecting far too much.
So Carlos and Kenwyne are to be blamed for the poor showing of the SAFC? What happen to the other nine players on the field and the bench players who get in the game? This is not a doubles tennis match. Of course the team needs many good players. Most of the team are only Championship caliber players. So yes there is blame to go around but don't blame ony Carlos and Kenwyne.
Where you see he single out Carlos and Kenwyne? Some ah allyuh real trigger happy, boy. De man talking bout de team in general. Carlos didn't even play today.
CB I didn't single out those 2 for any other reason than those are the only ones that hold any interest for this board.
I think there will be a big clear out and quite a few will go as they should, my only corncern being that the new manager will look at them in training where they might look good but can't cut it in a match, but I hope and believe you will see a much different side next season.
I can see Carlos either going to Wolves or rejoining Keane at Ipswich, I think Kenwyne will be at Spurs.
They are all to blame none less so than the manager, I am sorry you picked it up the way you have but it wasn't meant like that and think most people that have read my posts know I haven't singled those 2 out for any particular blame more than the others.
I know you weren't singling them out. I was pointing that fact out to Storeboy.
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Saw on sky sports that KJ scored the last goal of the season.
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Same old same old against a team that never really got out of 1st gear.
Survived because of the failings of others the footballers (can't call it a team, they haven't looked like a team all season) are spineless, leaderless and clueless. But live to fight another season with a very different team I hope and a proper manager / coaches.
kev, are you really a SAFC supporter or a critic? what do u really expect from these blokes? be thankful that they've for yet another season in top flight...and hopefully with carlos and jones exit next season...they would make a top 10 finish...what the heck...let's go for broke..maybe a european spot :beermug:
A supporter who tells it the way I see it, more than done my stint with rose tinted glasses the size of 5 jam jars where nobody at the club could do no wrong.
For players on £30/40/50K per week I expect them to be able to find a player in teh same shirt more often that not, to be able to trap a bag of cement and generally be passable at their jobs, at to that just a little enthusiam, pride and belief. Unfortunately I am obviously expecting far too much.
So Carlos and Kenwyne are to be blamed for the poor showing of the SAFC? What happen to the other nine players on the field and the bench players who get in the game? This is not a doubles tennis match. Of course the team needs many good players. Most of the team are only Championship caliber players. So yes there is blame to go around but don't blame ony Carlos and Kenwyne.
Where you see he single out Carlos and Kenwyne? Some ah allyuh real trigger happy, boy. De man talking bout de team in general. Carlos didn't even play today.
CB I didn't single out those 2 for any other reason than those are the only ones that hold any interest for this board.
I think there will be a big clear out and quite a few will go as they should, my only corncern being that the new manager will look at them in training where they might look good but can't cut it in a match, but I hope and believe you will see a much different side next season.
I can see Carlos either going to Wolves or rejoining Keane at Ipswich, I think Kenwyne will be at Spurs.
They are all to blame none less so than the manager, I am sorry you picked it up the way you have but it wasn't meant like that and think most people that have read my posts know I haven't singled those 2 out for any particular blame more than the others.
I know you weren't singling them out. I was pointing that fact out to Storeboy.
Sorry CB, I must learn to read post properly, bad lad, I blame the quoting system, thats my excuse and I am sticking to it. My post should of been aimed at Storeboy
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Now I know that Kev does get a lot of stick when he does bad talk we boys, but I was at the match on Sunday (two big trini flags opposite the players entrance), and here are my views on how Sunderland played and in particular how our boy Kenwyne played.
Firstly, Chelsea never got out of first gear, and for the first twenty minutes or so they were stringing passes around with ease and the Sunderland players were sitting back and not really trying to win the ball. After the first 20 mins, sunderland players tried to attack the ball and win tackles (barring Kenwyne) who really reminded me of Stern in that he was not tracking back and looked really lazy.
I can say with certainty that after watching Kenywnes game on Sunday that he will not be at Sunderland next season. I have always been a fan of Jones, and all the previous matches he was the work horse, tracking back, defending, winning all air balls, challenging and really pushing himself. Jones really didn't break sweat for this game and it was almost as if he didn't want to be on the pitch. The goal he scored was a glimpse of what Kenwyne could do if he wanted. I am still not sure if he's a good striker or not, but I don't think he will ever see his true potential if he stays at Sunderland. It was too much boom kick (yes I know they were playing for a draw - but still). I think that if the right balls were delivered to him, he'd put them away. He may not have the accuracy nor control of Scotland, but he does have speed, and could jump and head, and defend when he wants to.
I yelled to him after the match to pick up the game against CR on the 6'th, I know he heard me. But I also know he wasn't himself on Sunday. He is talented, and I think he needs to move on. Edwards was warming bench for the match and they didn't really need him either due to results elsewhere.
Thats my two cents...... :-X
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Hmm... http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=412282
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yes fellahs, its that time again.. transfer season for our beloved sunderland.
they already pull frazier campbell which i think is a great pickup. Also pulled in paraguayan captain paulo da silva.. Don't know too much about this player but Paraguay is notorious for a water tight defence and he has good international and European experience so sounds like a good buy.. Rumored to be after Darren Bent and Lee Cattermole as well..
I expect Sunderland under Steve Bruce to me more solid in defence this season and to pull more points at home, like Wigan and Birmingham did under him.
i hope Kenwyne grows under this coach and I hope Carlos gets more playing time under Bruce. I think Sunderland need another forward, a creative midfielder or two, a left winger and a couple defenders. As always, I say for Sunderland its all about the diamonds in the rough and bargain basement, so that said I would like to see Sunderland target the following -
- Craig Bellamy
- Benjani
- Ched Evans
- Michael Johnson
- Obafemi Martins
- Jonas Gutierrez
- Habib Beye
- Eidur Gudjohnsen
- Stuart Downing
- Alfonso Alves
- Robert Huth
- Stephen Hunt
- Lee Cattermole
- Lauren
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yes fellahs, its that time again.. transfer season for our beloved sunderland.
they already pull frazier campbell which i think is a great pickup. Also pulled in paraguayan captain paulo da silva.. Don't know too much about this player but Paraguay is notorious for a water tight defence and he has good international and European experience so sounds like a good buy.. Rumored to be after Darren Bent and Lee Cattermole as well..
I expect Sunderland under Steve Bruce to me more solid in defence this season and to pull more points at home, like Wigan and Birmingham did under him.
i hope Kenwyne grows under this coach and I hope Carlos gets more playing time under Bruce. I think Sunderland need another forward, a creative midfielder or two, a left winger and a couple defenders. As always, I say for Sunderland its all about the diamonds in the rough and bargain basement, so that said I would like to see Sunderland target the following -
- Craig Bellamy
- Benjani
- Ched Evans
- Michael Johnson
- Obafemi Martins
- Jonas Gutierrez
- Habib Beye
- Eidur Gudjohnsen
- Stuart Downing
- Alfonso Alves
- Robert Huth
- Stephen Hunt
- Lee Cattermole Wigan don't seem to want to sell
- Lauren this would be a very good defensive pickup to help stabilize that weak back four.
Of the forwards listed Martins and Bellamy would be good additions. Only problem is if KJ is kept, who will be comming of the bench there? KJ wages too high to justify using him as a sub. It wouldn't make sense to stifle Campbell so how will it work?
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David Bentley need to catch himself again. He would be a boss acquisition for Sunderland.
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yes fellahs, its that time again.. transfer season for our beloved sunderland.
they already pull frazier campbell which i think is a great pickup. Also pulled in paraguayan captain paulo da silva.. Don't know too much about this player but Paraguay is notorious for a water tight defence and he has good international and European experience so sounds like a good buy.. Rumored to be after Darren Bent and Lee Cattermole as well..
I expect Sunderland under Steve Bruce to me more solid in defence this season and to pull more points at home, like Wigan and Birmingham did under him.
i hope Kenwyne grows under this coach and I hope Carlos gets more playing time under Bruce. I think Sunderland need another forward, a creative midfielder or two, a left winger and a couple defenders. As always, I say for Sunderland its all about the diamonds in the rough and bargain basement, so that said I would like to see Sunderland target the following -
- Craig Bellamy
- Benjani
- Ched Evans
- Michael Johnson
- Obafemi Martins
- Jonas Gutierrez
- Habib Beye
- Eidur Gudjohnsen
- Stuart Downing
- Alfonso Alves
- Robert Huth
- Stephen Hunt
- Lee Cattermole Wigan don't seem to want to sell
- Lauren this would be a very good defensive pickup to help stabilize that weak back four.
Of the forwards listed Martins and Bellamy would be good additions. Only problem is if KJ is kept, who will be comming of the bench there? KJ wages too high to justify using him as a sub. It wouldn't make sense to stifle Campbell so how will it work?
Bellamy would be a none starter for the club, his past problems and Newcastle links, I don't think they will go anywhere near him.
Bruce has been on local TV saying he is hoping to announce a "really big signing" in the next couple of days, this could be a big name or a pun on the size of the player. Being linked with both Crouch, Bent and Zigic, he also mentioned that some of the names being mentioned in the press were not close.
Just have to wait and see.
I haven't really see Campbell play so I haven't really got a view on him, but I would imagine he was bought with an eye to the future and as 3rd choice, behind whoever ends up at the club.
As for Dasilva, I would imagine a couple on here may have some view on him, but again I will just have to wait and see, it would be unfair to judge him after a couple of games as he will need a good number to see if he can adjust to the EPL.
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Bellamy would be a none starter for the club, his past problems and Newcastle links, I don't think they will go anywhere near him.
Bruce has been on local TV saying he is hoping to announce a "really big signing" in the next couple of days, this could be a big name or a pun on the size of the player. Being linked with both Crouch, Bent and Zigic, he also mentioned that some of the names being mentioned in the press were not close.
Just have to wait and see.
I haven't really see Campbell play so I haven't really got a view on him, but I would imagine he was bought with an eye to the future and as 3rd choice, behind whoever ends up at the club.
As for Dasilva, I would imagine a couple on here may have some view on him, but again I will just have to wait and see, it would be unfair to judge him after a couple of games as he will need a good number to see if he can adjust to the EPL.
So scratch Bellamy, you really think campbell will come off the bench? To me I think that might be wasting his talents. (assuming KJ is still in the plans until we know different) If it's Crouch I can't see how both him and KJ could be a sensible tandem, so maybe he comes of the bench?
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yes fellahs, its that time again.. transfer season for our beloved sunderland.
they already pull frazier campbell which i think is a great pickup. Also pulled in paraguayan captain paulo da silva.. Don't know too much about this player but Paraguay is notorious for a water tight defence and he has good international and European experience so sounds like a good buy.. Rumored to be after Darren Bent and Lee Cattermole as well..
I expect Sunderland under Steve Bruce to me more solid in defence this season and to pull more points at home, like Wigan and Birmingham did under him.
i hope Kenwyne grows under this coach and I hope Carlos gets more playing time under Bruce. I think Sunderland need another forward, a creative midfielder or two, a left winger and a couple defenders. As always, I say for Sunderland its all about the diamonds in the rough and bargain basement, so that said I would like to see Sunderland target the following -
- Craig Bellamy
- Benjani
- Ched Evans
- Michael Johnson
- Obafemi Martins
- Jonas Gutierrez
- Habib Beye
- Eidur Gudjohnsen
- Stuart Downing
- Alfonso Alves
- Robert Huth
- Stephen Hunt
- Lee Cattermole Wigan don't seem to want to sell
- Lauren this would be a very good defensive pickup to help stabilize that weak back four.
Of the forwards listed Martins and Bellamy would be good additions. Only problem is if KJ is kept, who will be comming of the bench there? KJ wages too high to justify using him as a sub. It wouldn't make sense to stifle Campbell so how will it work?
Bellamy would be a none starter for the club, his past problems and Newcastle links, I don't think they will go anywhere near him.
Bruce has been on local TV saying he is hoping to announce a "really big signing" in the next couple of days, this could be a big name or a pun on the size of the player. Being linked with both Crouch, Bent and Zigic, he also mentioned that some of the names being mentioned in the press were not close.
Just have to wait and see.
I haven't really see Campbell play so I haven't really got a view on him, but I would imagine he was bought with an eye to the future and as 3rd choice, behind whoever ends up at the club.
As for Dasilva, I would imagine a couple on here may have some view on him, but again I will just have to wait and see, it would be unfair to judge him after a couple of games as he will need a good number to see if he can adjust to the EPL.
Kev, anybody in particular you would like to see come into your team?
i know i don't need to remind you how Keane used my list last season to formulate transfer targets.
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Kev, anybody in particular you would like to see come into your team?
i know i don't need to remind you how Keane used my list last season to formulate transfer targets.
It probably have nuff SAFC fans lookin fuh yuh to kill yuh :rotfl:
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Kev, anybody in particular you would like to see come into your team?
i know i don't need to remind you how Keane used my list last season to formulate transfer targets.
It probably have nuff SAFC fans lookin fuh yuh to kill yuh :rotfl:
Better check and see who Ipswich trying to sign... ;D
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yes fellahs, its that time again.. transfer season for our beloved sunderland.
they already pull frazier campbell which i think is a great pickup. Also pulled in paraguayan captain paulo da silva.. Don't know too much about this player but Paraguay is notorious for a water tight defence and he has good international and European experience so sounds like a good buy.. Rumored to be after Darren Bent and Lee Cattermole as well..
I expect Sunderland under Steve Bruce to me more solid in defence this season and to pull more points at home, like Wigan and Birmingham did under him.
i hope Kenwyne grows under this coach and I hope Carlos gets more playing time under Bruce. I think Sunderland need another forward, a creative midfielder or two, a left winger and a couple defenders. As always, I say for Sunderland its all about the diamonds in the rough and bargain basement, so that said I would like to see Sunderland target the following -
- Craig Bellamy
- Benjani
- Ched Evans
- Michael Johnson
- Obafemi Martins
- Jonas Gutierrez
- Habib Beye
- Eidur Gudjohnsen
- Stuart Downing
- Alfonso Alves
- Robert Huth
- Stephen Hunt
- Lee Cattermole Wigan don't seem to want to sell
- Lauren this would be a very good defensive pickup to help stabilize that weak back four.
Of the forwards listed Martins and Bellamy would be good additions. Only problem is if KJ is kept, who will be comming of the bench there? KJ wages too high to justify using him as a sub. It wouldn't make sense to stifle Campbell so how will it work?
Bellamy would be a none starter for the club, his past problems and Newcastle links, I don't think they will go anywhere near him.
Bruce has been on local TV saying he is hoping to announce a "really big signing" in the next couple of days, this could be a big name or a pun on the size of the player. Being linked with both Crouch, Bent and Zigic, he also mentioned that some of the names being mentioned in the press were not close.
Just have to wait and see.
I haven't really see Campbell play so I haven't really got a view on him, but I would imagine he was bought with an eye to the future and as 3rd choice, behind whoever ends up at the club.
As for Dasilva, I would imagine a couple on here may have some view on him, but again I will just have to wait and see, it would be unfair to judge him after a couple of games as he will need a good number to see if he can adjust to the EPL.
Kev, anybody in particular you would like to see come into your team?
i know i don't need to remind you how Keane used my list last season to formulate transfer targets.
Don't really know Bruce so its hard to tell.
He wants Cattermole, the team are definately missing that type of player but Wigan have sold well so can hang on for mad money that he is simply not worth. He is not really my cup of tea. We need at least 2 good CM that can tackle and pass.
Dunne has been heavily linked and we need another CB but I think he is angling for a Bosman next year unless City make it worth his while to move, he will do a job but not a longterm solution I think he is slowing but would be a good addition to us at the minute.
We obviously need a striker or 2, don't really like Crouch that much myself.
We need 1 wide right player and a FB.
Names I couldn't say.
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Kev, I am telling you.. Sunderland seems to have a direct line to my posts, but i am not getting compensated for my work.. They're onto my transfer suggestions again, check this out:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1199757/Bellamy-line-North-East-return-Sunderland-City-days-look-numbered.html
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Kev, I am telling you.. Sunderland seems to have a direct line to my posts, but i am not getting compensated for my work.. They're onto my transfer suggestions again, check this out:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1199757/Bellamy-line-North-East-return-Sunderland-City-days-look-numbered.html
I refer the honourable gentle to my previous post
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BRUCE GIVES UP ON CROUCH
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11695_5446369,00.html (ftp://http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11695_5446369,00.html)
Steve Bruce has given up hope of signing Portsmouth's Peter Crouch despite the striker agreeing personal terms last week.
The Sunderland boss had been keen to sign the 28-year-old for a reported £12million with the player seemingly disillusioned with life on the South Coast.
Contrary to reports that stated talks had broken down due to the England international's excessive wage demands, Crouch actually agreed personal terms with the Wearside club.
However the former Liverpool man changed his mind, citing that he would prefer to remain in the South, with a move to either Tottenham or Fulham now on the cards.
"Naturally this is hugely disappointing for us as Peter was one of our primary targets," Bruce told the Black Cats' official website.
"I know he was impressed with the set up here when he came for talks, but it's simply a matter of geographical location and that's not something we can affect."
Other targets
Despite the snub Bruce remained upbeat and stated that the club would now turn to other options.
"What's pleasing however is that it shows the intent of the club going forward that we are trying to bring in players of his calibre, and we will continue to pursue other targets," he added.
"We have a number of irons in the fire at present and we will be looking to make several additions to our squad in the coming weeks."
Despite the interest Crouch may decide that his future lies with Pompey following Sulaiman Al Fahim's appointment as chairman on Tuesday.
Al Fahim's takeover should provide the club with the stability that Crouch felt was missing at the end of last season, with Paul Hart expected to be named as the club's new manager imminently.
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Kev some more fire power might be on the way. Now this could be the thing to stoke that fire in KJ
Chamakh: Sunderland talks at an advanced stage
In-demand Bordeaux striker Marouane Chamakh has revealed he is in advanced talks with Sunderland.
The 25-year-old said earlier this week he had given up on his preferred move to Arsenal but still wanted a switch to England. Chamakh refuted allegations he is seeking a transfer to the Premier League for financial reasons. "Bordeaux have made me a more attractive proposition to stay," he said in L'Equipe. "So contrary to what some people say, I don't want to leave for money but to experience a new challenge......................
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Kev some more fire power might be on the way. Now this could be the thing to stoke that fire in KJ
Chamakh: Sunderland talks at an advanced stage
In-demand Bordeaux striker Marouane Chamakh has revealed he is in advanced talks with Sunderland.
The 25-year-old said earlier this week he had given up on his preferred move to Arsenal but still wanted a switch to England. Chamakh refuted allegations he is seeking a transfer to the Premier League for financial reasons. "Bordeaux have made me a more attractive proposition to stay," he said in L'Equipe. "So contrary to what some people say, I don't want to leave for money but to experience a new challenge......................
Its been rumbling on for a week, could put several articles up that are pro and against.
Basically he wants to play for Arsenal ( nothing wrong with that), failing that he wants to be in the EPL. According to him we have agreed terms, Bordeaux are saying differently. He was quoted as happy to hang on for 3/4 weeks to see if the Arsenal interest increases, although Bordeaux want it sorted now so they can replace him and not take him on the tour of Canada which is fair enough. Lyon also want him but he has his heart set on EPL.
A lot of articles the last couple of days saying if Arsenal don't hurry up he is going to sign for someone else and our name always seems to head the list. Basically if we are interested either sort it out and force Arsenal's hand or walk away, I think the Crouch thing has made them wary of getting into a similar situation.
I must admit I don't watch French football much so know very little about him, there is the usual YouTube compilation which shows him as a youngster (missing chance after chance) until now which he has improved. Apparently he is quick, works hard for the team, got decent skill in holding the ball and going past players, doesn't score enough goals and goes down far too easily like he has been hit with a baseball bat.
We need some decent players he seems will (apart from Arsenal) so whats going on? He wouldn't have to be much to be better than Murphy, Healy etc.
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Its been rumbling on for a week, could put several articles up that are pro and against.
Basically he wants to play for Arsenal ( nothing wrong with that), failing that he wants to be in the EPL. According to him we have agreed terms, Bordeaux are saying differently. He was quoted as happy to hang on for 3/4 weeks to see if the Arsenal interest increases, although Bordeaux want it sorted now so they can replace him and not take him on the tour of Canada which is fair enough. Lyon also want him but he has his heart set on EPL.
A lot of articles the last couple of days saying if Arsenal don't hurry up he is going to sign for someone else and our name always seems to head the list. Basically if we are interested either sort it out and force Arsenal's hand or walk away, I think the Crouch thing has made them wary of getting into a similar situation.
I must admit I don't watch French football much so know very little about him, there is the usual YouTube compilation which shows him as a youngster (missing chance after chance) until now which he has improved. Apparently he is quick, works hard for the team, got decent skill in holding the ball and going past players, doesn't score enough goals and goes down far too easily like he has been hit with a baseball bat.
We need some decent players he seems will (apart from Arsenal) so whats going on? He wouldn't have to be much to be better than Murphy, Healy etc.
He seems all the rage in France these days. I agree it doh take much to be better than Healy, Murphy, etc. but this might prove to be a very good move. Bruce needs to either get this done or get on with the pieces he has though. Any rumbling on Bellamy? I would have thought SAFC would have also sought a good CM as well, anything on that front?
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KJ real lucky Crouchy decide tuh make ah U-turn and stay at Portsmouth.... ;D
Crouchy tinking if he stay dat Arab fella goe buy some good players and also raise he salary.....
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He seems all the rage in France these days. I agree it doh take much to be better than Healy, Murphy, etc. but this might prove to be a very good move. Bruce needs to either get this done or get on with the pieces he has though. Any rumbling on Bellamy? I would have thought SAFC would have also sought a good CM as well, anything on that front?
I just can't see the club being interested in Bellamy for the following reasons
He is a trouble maker
He is ex Newcastle
He will be on a fortune at City - who no doubt will end up doing a Chelsea and selling players for a lot less than they bought them and paying them off to get them off the wage bill.
We desperately need 2 x CM, Bruce likes Cattermole (I don't particularly) but Wigan have already had £31 Million in sales since Jan so can hang on for really silly money that he is not worth, Bruce has suggested that its time to look elsewhere now given that Wigan have said he is not for sale.
Cana is a name being mentioned - I wish. :drool:
Still the usual Bent rumour
Still need a right sided player
Still need at least 1 defender probably 2 (Dunne has been mentioned)
rotatopoti3
Crouch isn't staying at Portsmouth.
Rumoured either Fulham or Spurs, interestingly they have appointed Hart as their manager on a 2 year contract with the takeover nearly through. Redknapp said he wanted him at Spurs.
In an interview he said Portsmouth won't be spending a lot of money (lost £17 Million last year) and Crouch is going no matter what, the funny thing is that they have not accepted any other bids as of yet. I think my above post was spot on, keeping us as a back up plan, which teh club quite rightly put a stop to.
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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/22072009/63/jones-training-black-cats.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/22072009/63/jones-training-black-cats.html)
Jones back in training for Black Cats
Wed 22 Jul, 02:26 PM
Sunderland striker Kenwyne Jones has returned to full training after recovering from a groin injury.
The 24-year-old Trinidad and Tobago international has spent much of the club's Portuguese training camp working with the physios after missing last week's friendlies against Darlington and Portimonense.
However, he was able to join the rest of the squad on Wednesday and could now be in contention for the Amsterdam Tournament clashes with Benfica and Atletico Madrid over the weekend.
Interesting Comments (read from the bottom come up) ... first they figure out why KJ has been soooo slow all season, then they justify why it's worth spitting on women and children who support Newcastle United.
seanallan199477,
Yeh but all the fans from all the other teams in the country are only asking that if you must spit on us, can you come up close and do it and not when we are not looking and gob all over our children.
From john.connolly01, on Wed 22 Jul 8:08PM0 0 Report abuse
jordie scum coming on here your talking loads of @#$% so pissoff pfff
you deserve to get spit on hey u cant complain its a free wash hahahah go and suckle on joe knieers tits
From Sean A, on Wed 22 Jul 8:04PM0 1 Report abuse
PISS OFF
From Sean A, on Wed 22 Jul 8:02PM0 0 Report abuse
R, comment -10
That's nowt mate, i witnessed them hurling coins at women and children when we there (NUFC), along with the spit obviously!
From cameron w, on Wed 22 Jul 7:30PM1 1 Report abuse
R, comment -10
That's nowt mate, i witnessed them hurling coins at women and children when we there (NUFC), along with the spit obviously!
From cameron w, on Wed 22 Jul 7:30PM0 1 Report abuse
Sunderland fans are SCUM - spat on my daughter when tigers went up there filthy pigs!!!! get yours when you come back to KC.
From R, on Wed 22 Jul 7:21PM2 1 Report abuse
bearphoto...hee haw..hee haw.
From newcastleian1, on Wed 22 Jul 6:30PM2 0 Report abuse
yes very true jack he does unlike butt who is now trying to have his thumb surgically implanted in his
From heslop448, on Wed 22 Jul 5:38PM0 0 Report abuse
mrbearphotography,
You do know that Cisse does'nt play for you anymore don't you.
From john.connolly01, on Wed 22 Jul 4:40PM3 1 Report abuse
Jones back in training for Black Cats
Apparently he was spotted today in a field throwing what looked like a banjo at the rear end of a cow.....and he missed
From Tony K, on Wed 22 Jul 4:36PM3 0 Report abuse
Is THAT what was slowing him down? I did wonder.
From JojO, on Wed 22 Jul 4:32PM1 1 Report abuse
Definitely needs to do that, far too lazy him and Cisse last season.
From mrbearphotography, on Wed 22 Jul 3:24PM2 1 Report abuse
i agree
From S, on Wed 22 Jul 2:52PM2 0 Report abuse
yeah i agree
From Sean A, on Wed 22 Jul 2:41PM2 0 Report abuse
Needs to get his finger out of his arse a bit more this season
From jack torrance, on Wed 22 Jul 2:31PM
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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/22072009/63/jones-training-black-cats.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/22072009/63/jones-training-black-cats.html)
Jones back in training for Black Cats
Wed 22 Jul, 02:26 PM
Sunderland striker Kenwyne Jones has returned to full training after recovering from a groin injury.
The 24-year-old Trinidad and Tobago international has spent much of the club's Portuguese training camp working with the physios after missing last week's friendlies against Darlington and Portimonense.
However, he was able to join the rest of the squad on Wednesday and could now be in contention for the Amsterdam Tournament clashes with Benfica and Atletico Madrid over the weekend.
Interesting Comments (read from the bottom come up) ... first they figure out why KJ has been soooo slow all season, then they justify why it's worth spitting on women and children who support Newcastle United.
seanallan199477,
Yeh but all the fans from all the other teams in the country are only asking that if you must spit on us, can you come up close and do it and not when we are not looking and gob all over our children.
From john.connolly01, on Wed 22 Jul 8:08PM0 0 Report abuse
jordie scum coming on here your talking loads of @#$% so pissoff pfff
you deserve to get spit on hey u cant complain its a free wash hahahah go and suckle on joe knieers tits
From Sean A, on Wed 22 Jul 8:04PM0 1 Report abuse
PISS OFF
From Sean A, on Wed 22 Jul 8:02PM0 0 Report abuse
R, comment -10
That's nowt mate, i witnessed them hurling coins at women and children when we there (NUFC), along with the spit obviously!
From cameron w, on Wed 22 Jul 7:30PM1 1 Report abuse
R, comment -10
That's nowt mate, i witnessed them hurling coins at women and children when we there (NUFC), along with the spit obviously!
From cameron w, on Wed 22 Jul 7:30PM0 1 Report abuse
Sunderland fans are SCUM - spat on my daughter when tigers went up there filthy pigs!!!! get yours when you come back to KC.
From R, on Wed 22 Jul 7:21PM2 1 Report abuse
bearphoto...hee haw..hee haw.
From newcastleian1, on Wed 22 Jul 6:30PM2 0 Report abuse
yes very true jack he does unlike butt who is now trying to have his thumb surgically implanted in his
From heslop448, on Wed 22 Jul 5:38PM0 0 Report abuse
mrbearphotography,
You do know that Cisse does'nt play for you anymore don't you.
From john.connolly01, on Wed 22 Jul 4:40PM3 1 Report abuse
Jones back in training for Black Cats
Apparently he was spotted today in a field throwing what looked like a banjo at the rear end of a cow.....and he missed
From Tony K, on Wed 22 Jul 4:36PM3 0 Report abuse
Is THAT what was slowing him down? I did wonder.
From JojO, on Wed 22 Jul 4:32PM1 1 Report abuse
Definitely needs to do that, far too lazy him and Cisse last season.
From mrbearphotography, on Wed 22 Jul 3:24PM2 1 Report abuse
i agree
From S, on Wed 22 Jul 2:52PM2 0 Report abuse
yeah i agree
From Sean A, on Wed 22 Jul 2:41PM2 0 Report abuse
Needs to get his finger out of his arse a bit more this season
From jack torrance, on Wed 22 Jul 2:31PM
You know the deal wid these english ppl and their football rivalries. from the looks of it spitting still good compare to the violence they does inflict on eachother.
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Kev some more fire power might be on the way. Now this could be the thing to stoke that fire in KJ
Chamakh: Sunderland talks at an advanced stage
In-demand Bordeaux striker Marouane Chamakh has revealed he is in advanced talks with Sunderland.
The 25-year-old said earlier this week he had given up on his preferred move to Arsenal but still wanted a switch to England. Chamakh refuted allegations he is seeking a transfer to the Premier League for financial reasons. "Bordeaux have made me a more attractive proposition to stay," he said in L'Equipe. "So contrary to what some people say, I don't want to leave for money but to experience a new challenge......................
Its been rumbling on for a week, could put several articles up that are pro and against.
Basically he wants to play for Arsenal ( nothing wrong with that), failing that he wants to be in the EPL. According to him we have agreed terms, Bordeaux are saying differently. He was quoted as happy to hang on for 3/4 weeks to see if the Arsenal interest increases, although Bordeaux want it sorted now so they can replace him and not take him on the tour of Canada which is fair enough. Lyon also want him but he has his heart set on EPL.
A lot of articles the last couple of days saying if Arsenal don't hurry up he is going to sign for someone else and our name always seems to head the list. Basically if we are interested either sort it out and force Arsenal's hand or walk away, I think the Crouch thing has made them wary of getting into a similar situation.
I must admit I don't watch French football much so know very little about him, there is the usual YouTube compilation which shows him as a youngster (missing chance after chance) until now which he has improved. Apparently he is quick, works hard for the team, got decent skill in holding the ball and going past players, doesn't score enough goals and goes down far too easily like he has been hit with a baseball bat.
We need some decent players he seems will (apart from Arsenal) so whats going on? He wouldn't have to be much to be better than Murphy, Healy etc.
he's also very good with his head. He's been in the french league quite a while now it seems, not exactly a game changer as far as strikers go, but puts in a good shift over a season. I must admit that his biggest season (last year's) is the first one where i didn't see a French game.
He's definitely better than any striker Sunderland have had since Roy Keane took over (last years KJ and last year's Cisse included), however i believe he peaked last season. I think he'll complement KJ well enough with his speed and lack of egotism. He will however never be your or any team's point man.
I also don't think he's Arsenal material.
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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/22072009/63/jones-training-black-cats.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/22072009/63/jones-training-black-cats.html)
Interesting Comments (read from the bottom come up) ... first they figure out why KJ has been soooo slow all season, then they justify why it's worth spitting on women and children who support Newcastle United.
seanallan199477,
Yeh but all the fans from all the other teams in the country are only asking that if you must spit on us, can you come up close and do it and not when we are not looking and gob all over our children.
From john.connolly01, on Wed 22 Jul 8:08PM0 0 Report abuse
jordie scum coming on here your talking loads of @#$% so pissoff pfff
you deserve to get spit on hey u cant complain its a free wash hahahah go and suckle on joe knieers tits
From Sean A, on Wed 22 Jul 8:04PM0 1 Report abuse
PISS OFF
From Sean A, on Wed 22 Jul 8:02PM0 0 Report abuse
R, comment -10
That's nowt mate, i witnessed them hurling coins at women and children when we there (NUFC), along with the spit obviously!
From cameron w, on Wed 22 Jul 7:30PM1 1 Report abuse
R, comment -10
That's nowt mate, i witnessed them hurling coins at women and children when we there (NUFC), along with the spit obviously!
From cameron w, on Wed 22 Jul 7:30PM0 1 Report abuse
Sunderland fans are SCUM - spat on my daughter when tigers went up there filthy pigs!!!! get yours when you come back to KC.
From R, on Wed 22 Jul 7:21PM2 1 Report abuse
bearphoto...hee haw..hee haw.
From newcastleian1, on Wed 22 Jul 6:30PM2 0 Report abuse
yes very true jack he does unlike butt who is now trying to have his thumb surgically implanted in his
From heslop448, on Wed 22 Jul 5:38PM0 0 Report abuse
mrbearphotography,
You do know that Cisse does'nt play for you anymore don't you.
From john.connolly01, on Wed 22 Jul 4:40PM3 1 Report abuse
Jones back in training for Black Cats
Apparently he was spotted today in a field throwing what looked like a banjo at the rear end of a cow.....and he missed
From Tony K, on Wed 22 Jul 4:36PM3 0 Report abuse
Is THAT what was slowing him down? I did wonder.
From JojO, on Wed 22 Jul 4:32PM1 1 Report abuse
Definitely needs to do that, far too lazy him and Cisse last season.
From mrbearphotography, on Wed 22 Jul 3:24PM2 1 Report abuse
i agree
From S, on Wed 22 Jul 2:52PM2 0 Report abuse
yeah i agree
From Sean A, on Wed 22 Jul 2:41PM2 0 Report abuse
Needs to get his finger out of his arse a bit more this season
From jack torrance, on Wed 22 Jul 2:31PM
Mostly kids / internet hard men talking out of their arses.
The comments also relate to last weeks match at Gateshead. The U -18 played Gateshead which is south of the tyne Newcastle being north of the tyne, but it is in Tyneside, where a few hundred Newcastle supporters turned up to hurl abuse, spit and anything else at the Sunderland fans.
Interestly Newcastle happened to be playing that night aswell at Darlington, not very far away but choose to go to the Sunderland kids match instead of going to see their own team.
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Well this is taken off L'Equipe tonight, it tends to be accurate and not renowned as a "tabloid paper". I hope it is true, I don't watch French Football but have seen him in a couple of European games and he looks like a decent player a midfield type we have been missing for the past couple of years. Some of you may have seen more of him than me and have a better idea what he is like
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2009/20090723_224522_cana-a-choisi-sunderland.html
Cana a choisi Sunderland
Après quatre années passées à Marseille, le capitaine de l'OM va s'engager pour les quatre prochaines saisons avec Sunderland. Il était convoité par Hambourg et Everton.
Sauf retournement de dernière minute, Lorik Cana, le capitaine emblématique de l'Olympique de Marseille, devrait s'engager pour quatre ans avec Sunderland. Le transfert de l'international albanais, au club depuis quatre ans, dépasse légèrement les 6 millions d'euros. Avant de choisir Sunderland, Cana a été tout proche de s'engager avec Hambourg. Everton s'intéressait aussi à lui, mais le milieu défensif de 25 ans a choisi le Nord de l'Angleterre, où évoluait l'an dernier Djibril Cissé. Le transfert devrait être officialisé dans les prochains jours. - H. P.
Translation
Cana chose Sunderland
After four years in Marseille, the captain of the OM will undertake for the next four seasons with Sunderland. It was coveted by Hamburg and Everton.
Unless last-minute reversal, Lorik Cana, the captain of the iconic Olympic Marseille, should commit to four years with Sunderland. The transfer of the Albanian international, the club for four years, just over 6 million euros. Before choosing Sunderland, Cana was very close to engage with Hamburg. Everton was also interested in him, but the defensive mid-25s chose the North of England, which moved last year Djibril Cissé. The transfer should be formalized in the coming days. - H. P.
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Wasn't he Sunderland's captain at some point last season?
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/24072009/58/premier-league-whitehead-swaps-sunderland-stoke.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/24072009/58/premier-league-whitehead-swaps-sunderland-stoke.html)
Premier League - Whitehead swaps Sunderland for Stoke
Eurosport - Fri, 24 Jul 15:46:00 2009
Stoke have completed the signing of Sunderland midfielder Dean Whitehead for an initial fee of £3 million, which could rise to £5m.
The 27-year-old, who had been in talks with the Potters for some time and did not fly out to the Algarve with the rest of the Black Cats squad this week, has agreed a four-year contract.
Whitehead, who has ended a five-year spell at the Stadium of Light, will be reunited with former Sunderland team-mates Liam Lawrence, Rory Delap and Danny Higginbotham and another ex-Black Cat in goalkeeper Thomas Sorensen.
He could make his Stoke debut in the friendly at Preston North End.
PA Sport
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He has been captain for the past few years, could never understand why (longest serving?) he is certainly not a leader, shouter etc. Personally glad he is gone, a player taht splits teh fans some hated him, some loved him as a 100% player. In reality a limited footballer who is always going to struggle in the EPL or be a top CCC CM. There are still several more at the club / in teh team that need replacing quickly.
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Well this is taken off L'Equipe tonight, it tends to be accurate and not renowned as a "tabloid paper". I hope it is true, I don't watch French Football but have seen him in a couple of European games and he looks like a decent player a midfield type we have been missing for the past couple of years. Some of you may have seen more of him than me and have a better idea what he is like
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2009/20090723_224522_cana-a-choisi-sunderland.html
Cana a choisi Sunderland
Après quatre années passées à Marseille, le capitaine de l'OM va s'engager pour les quatre prochaines saisons avec Sunderland. Il était convoité par Hambourg et Everton.
Sauf retournement de dernière minute, Lorik Cana, le capitaine emblématique de l'Olympique de Marseille, devrait s'engager pour quatre ans avec Sunderland. Le transfert de l'international albanais, au club depuis quatre ans, dépasse légèrement les 6 millions d'euros. Avant de choisir Sunderland, Cana a été tout proche de s'engager avec Hambourg. Everton s'intéressait aussi à lui, mais le milieu défensif de 25 ans a choisi le Nord de l'Angleterre, où évoluait l'an dernier Djibril Cissé. Le transfert devrait être officialisé dans les prochains jours. - H. P.
Translation
Cana chose Sunderland
After four years in Marseille, the captain of the OM will undertake for the next four seasons with Sunderland. It was coveted by Hamburg and Everton.
Unless last-minute reversal, Lorik Cana, the captain of the iconic Olympic Marseille, should commit to four years with Sunderland. The transfer of the Albanian international, the club for four years, just over 6 million euros. Before choosing Sunderland, Cana was very close to engage with Hamburg. Everton was also interested in him, but the defensive mid-25s chose the North of England, which moved last year Djibril Cissé. The transfer should be formalized in the coming days. - H. P.
if this goes through, its a very good transfer. Cana should definitely make the midfield a lot tougher.
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Black Cats complete Cana swoop
Safc.com
Sunderland manager Steve Bruce has made Marseille captain Lorik Cana his third signing of the summer.
Steve Bruce has completed his third signing of the summer at the Stadium of Light with the capture of highly-rated Olympique de Marseille captain Lorik Cana.
Albanian midfielder Cana, 25, joins the Black Cats on a 4-year contract in a deal worth over £5million.
Steve Bruce said: "I'm delighted to have brought Lorik to the club, especially given the number of clubs who had expressed an interest in signing him.
"He brings with him a tremendous amount of experience both at club level and internationally and is a great addition to our squad.
"To captain a side of Marseille's stature says a lot about the player and his character, and I'm sure he'll go on to be a fantastic signing for Sunderland."
Pristina-born, Cana holds Albanian, French and Swiss citizenship.
After beginning his career at FC Lausanne-Sport in Switzerland, he enjoyed a successful spell with Paris St-Germain before moving to the Stade Velodrome in August 2005.
Cana led Marseille to a second place finish in Ligue 1 in the 2008-09 season - just three points short of champions Bordeaux.
Internationally, he has represented the Albanian national side on 31 occasions.
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FB, too busy watching the match you beat me to it.
Very pleased with him will make a massive difference to the midfield and attitude of the team. But we need a few more yet
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FB, too busy watching the match you beat me to it.
Very pleased with him will make a massive difference to the midfield and attitude of the team. But we need a few more yet
Good signing! From what I've seen of him he should provide some much needed steel in Sunderland's midfield. Bruce moved really quick on this...Dirty Harry did not get a chance to ponce... :devil:
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Steve Finnan mooted as a possibility..
Would be a good signing if he can come anywhere near to the level he was at when he left Liverpool at the start of last season.
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Certainly trying the forwards, just hope he realises midfield and defence aswell.
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/Cats-boss-wants-an-answer.5493823.jp
Cats boss wants an answer on Chamakh
Published Date: 25 July 2009
SUNDERLAND will press Bordeaux for a clear answer on whether striker Marouane Chamakh is available for transfer.
After seeing his side fire blanks against Benfica in a 2-0 defeat at the Amsterdam Tournament last night, Black Cats boss Steve Bruce admitted he had yet to be told that Bordeaux are prepared to sell the Morocco striker.
Chamakh has indicated his desire for a fresh challenge, and Bruce hopes to strike a deal. He said: "There has been enormous speculation about targets and it gets out in the press these days who we might want to sign.
"But we have got to respect Bordeaux. We're trying to arrange some meeting with Bordeaux to see if he is available.
"The last we were told a couple of weeks ago was that he was not available."
Sunderland boosted their attack with the signing of Fraizer Campbell from Manchester United, but Bruce wants yet more competition up front.
The Sunderland manager saw his side create some good chances against Benfica in Amsterdam last night but they failed to accept one of a handful of good chances.
Bruce said: "I was delighted with the game. We gave a couple of goals away – it wasn't a penalty for the first one, but I'm not going to complain about it.
"Our Achilles heel last year was that we didn't score enough, but I thought we created five good chances against Benfica.
"You have to turn chances into goals, of course, and that's what we'll work to do.
"At this level, you have to take a good proportion of your chances.
"But a lot of the game was good. I thought Jordan Henderson, for a 19-year-old not experienced at all against that standard of opposition, handled himself very well.
"There were other good performances."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5454095,00.html
Bruce confirms Bent talks
Black Cats hoping to agree fee for Spurs striker
Sunderland boss Steve Bruce has revealed he is doing his 'utmost' to try to sign Tottenham Hotspur striker Darren Bent.
Bruce is anxious to improve his attacking options at the Stadium of Light and has already missed out on Portsmouth forward Peter Crouch.
Bordeaux ace Marouane Chamakh remains a target and England international Bent has also been heavily linked with a move to the North East.
The Black Cats' interest in the 25-year-old has now been confirmed, with Bruce admitting talks are ongoing between the two clubs.
A fee is believed to be the sticking point, with Spurs reportedly wanting to recoup the £16.5million paid to Charlton for Bent two years ago, while Sunderland value him at £12million.
Talking
"Darren Bent is another one where we are trying our utmost," said Bruce in the Sunday Sun.
"We have tried all summer for Peter Crouch and Darren Bent. Talks are ongoing as we speak at a high level.
"We hope we can do something with it, but as we have just experienced last week, we can get knocked back as well.
"We have to agree a fee - obviously it isn't done yet. But we are talking.
"The one thing I have to do to attract top players here is to make Sunderland an established Premier League team. It is a club that has been up and down too much in recent history."
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/Catt-fight-is-not-over.5493845.jp
Catt fight is not over yet
STEVE BRUCE refuses to give up hope of landing Lee Cattermole from former club Wigan, despite last night's £5million-plus capture of Marseille's imposing midfield enforcer Lorik Cana.
The Cana deal was concluded while Bruce was watching his side fall to a 2-0 loss to Benfica in the Amsterdam Tournament.
The 31-times capped Albania international will not link up with Sunderland until next week, when he will be joined by fellow new boys Fraizer Campbell and Paulo Da Silva.
And he will inherit the skipper's armband from Dean Whitehead, whose switch to Stoke was concluded yesterday afternoon.
Asked if the arrival of Cana on a four-year deal signalled the end of his pursuit of Cattermole – who Wigan are determined to retain – Bruce responded: "It is a position where we haven't got much available with Dean gone and if good players become available, we will be in for them.
"Lee is still in that category. I have not given up hope. I have got to be respectful to Wigan and they're within their rights not wanting to sell, but we'll have to see what develops."
The Echo had revealed yesterday that Cana was in Holland for talks with Bruce over a deal that was quickly concluded.
And the Sunderland manager said: "Cana will be the captain.
"He's been the captain of Marseille, he's the captain of Albania and he's a real competitor – the type of player we needed after Dean Whitehead joined Stoke.
"I'm delighted to get a player like that. It was refreshing to see his attitude because he came to our hotel, wanted to stay and get signed and had his medical over here in Holland.
"That bodes well for the club.
"He's powerful, he's been a winner all his life and I'm sure he's suited to the Premier League."
The 25-year-old – 26 on Monday – was being courted by other clubs.
And Bruce added: "I'm delighted to have brought Lorik to the club, especially given the number of clubs who had expressed an interest in signing him.
"He brings with him a tremendous amount of experience both at club level and internationally and is a great addition to our squad.
"To captain a side of Marseille's stature says a lot about the player and his character, and I'm sure he'll go on to be a fantastic signing for Sunderland.
"It's a coup for us."
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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=663575&sec=transfers&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=663575&sec=transfers&cc=5901)
Darren Bent was hauled off Tottenham's plane bound for China on Monday night and told he was being sold to Sunderland, according to reports.
NigelFrench/Empics
Darren Bent: Spurs spell not a success.
The striker was already in his seat when the call came in, and had to get his bags off the aircraft as it sat on the tarmac.
Tottenham's signing of Peter Crouch paved the way for Bent's departure, and he will meet Black Cats boss Steve Bruce for talks on Tuesday.
A fee of around £15m is reported to have been agreed with the striker desperate to call time on his White Hart Lane career.
A car was reportedly put on stand by at Heathrow airport, as painstaking negotiations continued between the two clubs.
Tottenham were keen to recoup most of the £16.5m fee they paid Charlton for Bent back in the summer of 2007.
And at the last minute Spurs chairman Daniel Levy and his opposite number Niall Quinn struck a deal, prompting the club to haul Bent off the plane.
Spurs' new signing Crouch was unable to make the flight for Beijing, where Spurs take on West Ham on Wednesday in the Asia Trophy.
He will now begin training with his new team-mates on their return from China next Monday.
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STEVE BRUCE refuses to give up hope of landing Lee Cattermole from former club Wigan, despite last night's £5million-plus capture of Marseille's imposing midfield enforcer Lorik Cana.
The Cana deal was concluded while Bruce was watching his side fall to a 2-0 loss to Benfica in the Amsterdam Tournament.
The 31-times capped Albania international will not link up with Sunderland until next week, when he will be joined by fellow new boys Fraizer Campbell and Paulo Da Silva.
And he will inherit the skipper's armband from Dean Whitehead, whose switch to Stoke was concluded yesterday afternoon.
And the Sunderland manager said: "Cana will be the captain.
"He's been the captain of Marseille, he's the captain of Albania and he's a real competitor – the type of player we needed after Dean Whitehead joined Stoke.
I'm surprised he's decided to give him the armband in his first season in a new club and a new country; he's just arrived and he's not even that high profile an international player.
I hope the more established ones at the club don't take exception to it.
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STEVE BRUCE refuses to give up hope of landing Lee Cattermole from former club Wigan, despite last night's £5million-plus capture of Marseille's imposing midfield enforcer Lorik Cana.
The Cana deal was concluded while Bruce was watching his side fall to a 2-0 loss to Benfica in the Amsterdam Tournament.
The 31-times capped Albania international will not link up with Sunderland until next week, when he will be joined by fellow new boys Fraizer Campbell and Paulo Da Silva.
And he will inherit the skipper's armband from Dean Whitehead, whose switch to Stoke was concluded yesterday afternoon.
And the Sunderland manager said: "Cana will be the captain.
"He's been the captain of Marseille, he's the captain of Albania and he's a real competitor – the type of player we needed after Dean Whitehead joined Stoke.
I'm surprised he's decided to give him the armband in his first season in a new club and a new country; he's just arrived and he's not even that high profile an international player.
I hope the more established ones at the club don't take exception to it.
I'm not tbh one of the problems has been lack of a real leader on the pitch, there is no one really who was there stands out as a captain, by the usual twist of fate Bruce has signed 2 captains in Cana and Da Silva.
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/Sunderland-set-to-sign-Bent.5499139.jp
Sunderland set to sign Bent
Published Date: 28 July 2009
Darren Bent could finally be Sunderland-bound.
The Tottenham striker left Spurs' flight to China yesterday – just before take-off – and a deal, which was close to completion in January only to run out of time, could be finalised this week.
Though no fee has yet been agreed, there has been progress since boss Steve Bruce threatened to pull the plug on the deal on Sunday night, and it is understood that Bent could eventually cost £14million.
And Spurs manager Redknapp said today that Bent is close to signing for the Black Cats.
The initial fee is likely to be £12m – with Sunderland's negotiations bringing down the price initially demanded by Tottenham, who splashed out £16.5m on Bent two years ago.
It would still be a club record fee for the Wearsiders, overtaking the £9million paid to Hearts for Craig Gordon two years ago.
Spurs were eager to get their money back on the 25-year-old, but – having completed a deal to sign Portsmouth striker Peter Crouch, for a fee lower than Sunderland were willing to pay – appear to have settled on a lower figure to finance the new purchase.
Bruce will now look to sell his vision of Sunderland's future to Bent and his advisers, although it is understood that the Cambridge-born striker is keen to move north after an often dispiriting time at White Hart Lane. He has netted 25 competitive goals for Spurs in 79 appearances, though only 43 were starts.
In all, Bent has netted 117 goals in senior football, with 55 at Ipswich and 33 in two good seasons at Charlton.
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/Bent-due-in-Sunderland-for.5499912.jp
Bent due in Sunderland for medical
Published Date: 28 July 2009
Spurs striker Darren Bent will be in Sunderland for a medical tomorrow, according to the star's twitter updates.
Bent's latest comment on the social networking site states: "Just seen Crouchy at the training ground wish him all the best. As for me, medical at Sunderland tomorrow. Can't wait to get started."
You can follow Darren Bent's twitter updates at www.twitter.com - his username is db10thetruth.
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Cats too small for Chamakh - Blanc
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9867476/Cats-too-small-for-Chamakh---Blanc (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9867476/Cats-too-small-for-Chamakh---Blanc)
Bordeaux coach Laurent Blanc insists Marouane Chamakh will not move to Sunderland as he will only let the wantaway striker join a "big club".
Chamakh has outlined his determination to leave Les Girondins and move to the Premier League in England but he has yet to find a club.
He has claimed Sunderland are the team with whom he has had the most advanced talks.
But Blanc has already said he would only allow Chamakh to move if what he views as a bigger club came in with an offer, and he has reiterated his stance while on a pre-season tour to Canada with Les Girondins.
The former France defender told French daily newspaper L'Equipe: "I am going to do everything to make sure he does not go to just any club.
"With him, things are clear. After the season he's had, if he has to go, it will be to a big club. That's why I am standing in the way of a departure to Sunderland.
"I am not going to change what I said to him at the start of the year. If an offer comes from a big club, I will not stand in the way. The door is half-open."
Blanc would love to see Chamakh, who weighed in with 13 league goals last season in Les Girondins' march to the French title, stay for another year.
"Players with Marouane's profile are difficult to find," Blanc added his interview with L'Equipe.
"He is someone who has showed enormous progress in his efficiency.
"Abroad, he has an image of a good striker who scores little. It is why I would like him to stay, to score between 15 and 20 goals with us and that people can realise he is a goalscorer."
Meanwhile, Bordeaux are poised to complete the signing of Michael Ciani after announcing they have reached an agreement with Lorient over the transfer of the defender.
Les Girondins have been searching for a centre-back since they sold Souleymane Diawara to Marseille earlier this summer, and they look to have found a replacement.
The French champions released a statement on the club's official website, which read: "Before the traditional medical, the various administrative steps and the official signing of a contract, Bordeaux and Lorient have come to an agreement for the transfer of Michael Ciani, the 25-year-old centre-back."
Ciani has spent the past three years at Lorient.
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Cats too small for Chamakh - Blanc
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9867476/Cats-too-small-for-Chamakh---Blanc (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9867476/Cats-too-small-for-Chamakh---Blanc)
Bordeaux coach Laurent Blanc insists Marouane Chamakh will not move to Sunderland as he will only let the wantaway striker join a "big club".
Chamakh has outlined his determination to leave Les Girondins and move to the Premier League in England but he has yet to find a club.
He has claimed Sunderland are the team with whom he has had the most advanced talks.
But Blanc has already said he would only allow Chamakh to move if what he views as a bigger club came in with an offer, and he has reiterated his stance while on a pre-season tour to Canada with Les Girondins.
The former France defender told French daily newspaper L'Equipe: "I am going to do everything to make sure he does not go to just any club.
"With him, things are clear. After the season he's had, if he has to go, it will be to a big club. That's why I am standing in the way of a departure to Sunderland.
"I am not going to change what I said to him at the start of the year. If an offer comes from a big club, I will not stand in the way. The door is half-open."
Blanc would love to see Chamakh, who weighed in with 13 league goals last season in Les Girondins' march to the French title, stay for another year.
"Players with Marouane's profile are difficult to find," Blanc added his interview with L'Equipe.
"He is someone who has showed enormous progress in his efficiency.
"Abroad, he has an image of a good striker who scores little. It is why I would like him to stay, to score between 15 and 20 goals with us and that people can realise he is a goalscorer."
Meanwhile, Bordeaux are poised to complete the signing of Michael Ciani after announcing they have reached an agreement with Lorient over the transfer of the defender.
Les Girondins have been searching for a centre-back since they sold Souleymane Diawara to Marseille earlier this summer, and they look to have found a replacement.
The French champions released a statement on the club's official website, which read: "Before the traditional medical, the various administrative steps and the official signing of a contract, Bordeaux and Lorient have come to an agreement for the transfer of Michael Ciani, the 25-year-old centre-back."
Ciani has spent the past three years at Lorient.
Ouch how Sunderland keep getting dissed so he eh no superstar steups... lol like God don't want KJ to have much Competition...
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No different from Bruce saying we will only sell Andy Reid to Chelsea with only Stoke bidding for him, never happen because Chelsea would never be interested in him.
Blanc on one hand is saying he is a striker that scores few and then expects to be picked up by a big team, what he really is saying stay here score 20 goals for me then you will get the big move you want.
The problem is I watched 40 minutes or so of the Bordeaux match the other night to have a look at the player and he was for the most part anonymous. He looked to the world like a player going through the motions that simply didn't want to be there. From what very little I have seen he looks OK but I wouldn't be broken hearted if we moved onto someone else. Bordeaux are due back tomorrow so no doubt this will be sorted one way or the other in the next couple of days, can't see the club hanging around waiting too long on this one.
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Elano joins Galatasaray from Man CityAssociated Press
ISTANBUL (AP) - Elano has joined Turkish side Galatasaray from Manchester City on a four-year deal.
The Brazil midfielder arrived at City two seasons ago from Shakthar Donetsk when Sven-Goran Eriksson was in charge.
But his form tailed off in the second half of his debut campaign and he struggled for consistency under Mark Hughes last season.
The 28-year-old Elano scored 18 goals in 80 appearances for City and has played 35 times for Brazil.
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Spurs probe 'Bent Twitter rant'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/8177678.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/8177678.stm)
Tottenham are investigating comments allegedly made by striker Darren Bent accusing Spurs chairman Daniel Levy of disrupting his move to Sunderland.
A foul-mouthed rant on social network site Twitter purports to have been posted by Bent.
One of the tweets said: "Do I wanna go to Hull? No. Do I wanna go to Stoke? No. Do I wanna go to Sunderland? Yes."
A Spurs spokesman told BBC Sport: "We shall ascertain whether or not it is a genuine posting from Darren."
He added: "If it is, it will be dealt with as an internal matter."
The Twitter account in question was taken down from the service on Friday morning.
The arrival of fellow striker Peter Crouch from Portsmouth earlier this week appears to have signalled the end of Bent's stay at White Hart Lane and the only stumbling block looks to be his transfer fee.
Bent missed Spurs' tour to China for talks on Wearside.
There's a human being in this who is obviously caught up in the middle and wants his future sorted out
Sunderland boss Steve Bruce
Sunderland are understood to be be prepared to break their own transfer record of £9m, paid for goalkeeper Craig Gordon two years ago, but Levy will be wanting to recoup most of the £16.5m he paid to Charlton two years ago for the England centre-forward.
And the 25-year-old, who was Spurs' leading scorer last season with 17 goals from 43 appearances, appears to lay the blame for any delay firmly at Spurs' door, adding on other tweets, that were littered with swear words: "Why can't anything be simple [sic].
"Sunderland are not the problem in the slightest."
Black Cats manager Steve Bruce said that he can understand if Bent is feeling frustrated that his move away from Tottenham has not yet been completed, but added that he was still keen to sign the striker.
"Someone says Darren has been Twittering," Bruce told the Sunderland Echo newspaper.
"I don't even know what that is, but I have seen a few things in the papers about it.
"Footballers aren't just objects. There's a human being in this who is obviously caught up in the middle and wants his future sorted out. The situation at the moment is that the clubs are still talking.
"We thought we had a deal done a couple of days ago and it has not quite materialised. We will do our utmost to get the deal over the line. I would say I was really confident that would happen a couple of days ago, but now I'd say it's 50-50."
If Bent does go then maybe we will be interested
Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp on Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
Several sporting stars have made the headlines in recent weeks after comments posted on their Twitter feed, with Australia batsman Phillip Hughes the latest in the spotlight.
Hughes' agent took the blame for revealing that his client had been dropped for the third Test at Edgbaston on his Twitter feed.
Cycling superstar Lance Armstrong is also an enthusiastic user of Twitter, using it to hit back at Alberto Contador in a recent row between the two team-mates.
Meanwhile, Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp - speaking on Thursday, before the Twitter row erupted - admitted he was unsure of how the deal was progressing.
"I spoke to the chairman (on Wednesday) but I don't know where he is at," he said. "He was talking to Sunderland the last I was aware.
If Bent does leave the club, Redknapp has reiterated his desire to bring Real Madrid striker Klaas Jan Huntelaar to north London.
The Dutchman had been set for a move to German side Stuttgart last week but that fell through due to his wage demands.
"If you look at his goalscoring record it is incredible," Redknapp said. "If he is available then again he is a player that interests me.
"If any top-class player becomes available then you have to be interested and if Bent does go then maybe we will be interested.
"You cannot have too many good players. Competition for places is what it is all about. Look at Manchester United, you could pick two teams from their squad last year."
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Bent fined £120k for Twitter rant: Spurs crackdown on players' websites
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1203559/Bent-fined-120k-Twitter-rant-Spurs-crackdown-players-websites.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0Mx3ketjm (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1203559/Bent-fined-120k-Twitter-rant-Spurs-crackdown-players-websites.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0Mx3ketjm)
Darren Bent will be fined £120,000 by Tottenham despite issuing a grovelling apology for his foul-mouthed blast at chairman Daniel Levy.
Bent used Twitter to vent his frustration after his move to Sunderland stalled yet again, and the attack has cost him two weeks' wages.
It has also left the club demanding that all their players disclose whether they are members of social networking sites such as Facebook or the one used by the striker.
Bent's Twitter page 'db10thetruth' was taken down early yesterday but only after a series of his angry posts had been published in Sportsmail.
Spurs are determined not to be embarrassed in the same way again.
Among his posts the striker wrote: 'Do I wanna go Hull City NO. Do I wanna go Stoke NO do I wanna go Sunderland YES so stop f***ing around levy.'
Ironically, Stoke were undeterred by Bent's ill-judged comments and are understood to have topped Sunderland's most recent offer of a £9million down-payment with further instalments up to £14m based on performance related bonuses.
But just as Portsmouth were forced to accept £3m less from Spurs than Sunderland were offering for Peter Crouch, who preferred a move to White Hart Lane, Levy may have to bend on the Bent transfer fee.
Sunderland are just as frustrated as their top transfer target, and manager Steve Bruce wants the signing completed by the beginning of next week. Chairman Niall Quinn made a third attempt to strike a deal last night.
Bent's frustration is based on the lack of progress over the transfer even though on Monday he was ordered to get off.
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Bent up for medical should all be sorted tomorrow.
Must admit I quite like him as a player, don't think the last couple of years with 3 different managers and teams has helped his confidence, just have to wait and see. Still need a midfield and the defence sorting.
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Bent up for medical should all be sorted tomorrow.
Must admit I quite like him as a player, don't think the last couple of years with 3 different managers and teams has helped his confidence, just have to wait and see. Still need a midfield and the defence sorting.
He'll be a good buy... but the price mentioned seems way too high.. I guess Spurs dont belive in depreciaton
KJ and Bent could be a good partnership... Fraizer C is quality..he will be a hit ...
I still think Sunderland need another striker... and 1 or 2 defenders and a CM...
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The price will largely depend on who the papers want to keep happy, I suspect its a comprimise with a fair chunk being add ons, but nobody will know what the kickers are for them.
Spurs will put out a high price and Sunderland a low price, both to save face and the truth will be in the middle somewhere imho.
As I said above we need more, CM, CH FB and Right sided at least.
I think both Cana and Da Silva will take time to settle the latter taking the longest, but so far I haven't seen a lot of difference from last season except a bit more endeavour.
All we have done is replaced
Whitehead - Cana
Cisse - Bent
Da Silva extra
Campbell extra
Probably improvements but not enough change to make a significant impact.
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Bent will score for you if he plays consistently, he doesn't do well in rotation.
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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/03082009/58/premier-league-bent-sunderland-medical.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/03082009/58/premier-league-bent-sunderland-medical.html)
Premier League - Bent has Sunderland medical
Eurosport - Mon, 03 Aug 11:57:00 2009
Tottenham striker Darren Bent is on the verge of signing for Sunderland after undergoing a medical at the North-East club.
The Black Cats initially moved for Bent more than a week ago, but the deal seemed to have stalled as Spurs chairman Daniel Levy held out for a £16 million fee.
Bent revealed his frustration at the delay by posting angry comments on Twitter and was later forced to apologise.
But the England forward appears to have got his wish at last after he flew to the Stadium of Light after the two clubs agreed a fee believed to be around £14m.
AFP
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Heard Sunderland is possibly gunning for Lyon's John Mensah.
You may remember him as a centre back from Ghana's World Cup team.
He didn't settle in well at Lyon last year because of injury, but I'll still believe it when I see it.
If its true though, that would be quite a French link we've been seeing in the last couple of years: Cisse, Malbranque, Chamakh, Cana. Has there been a change in the scouting staff?
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Pressure for Carlos if this youth gets signed.
Black Cats keen on Egyptian
Skysports.com
Sunderland are interested in signing Ahmed Al-Muhammadi, according to the Egyptian winger's agent.
The highly-rated 21-year-old, who currently plays for ENPPI in his homeland, was linked with a move to England in the January transfer window but nothing materialised.
The Black Cats could now be about to step up their efforts to bring in Al-Muhammadi as Steve Bruce aims to bolster his attacking options.
"Al-Muhammadi had a successful trial with Sunderland at the weekend and manager Steve Bruce was impressed," agent Nader Shawki told Modern Sport TV.
"Negotiations between Sunderland and ENPPI should be concluded in the next few days."
Shawki is also the agent of Amr Zaki and is understood to have established a good relationship with Bruce during the striker's spell with Wigan last season.
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Good luck to Carlos gettin much playing time this season seems like he played RB for the full game against petersborough... and Bent officially sign to Sunderland so looks like pressure will be on the Trini's...
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Bent seals Sunderland switch
skysports.com
Darren Bent has completed his protracted move to Sunderland from Tottenham.
The Black Cats have paid an initial £10million - which breaks their club record - for the England striker, who finally penned his deal on Wednesday.
It brings to an end a long chase for Bruce, who lodged his bid for Bent last month.
Bent himself has been in the North East for the last few days and completed his medical on Monday.
He has had to wait until talks were completed but he has now finalised his move and becomes Sunderland's fourth signing of the summer following on from the arrivals of Frazier Campbell, Lorik Cana and Paulo Da Silva
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Apparently chatting to Lucas neill who is out of contract, couldn't care less to be frank if he comes or not, prefer not but our defence is total tata (did I get that right, seem to remember something similar :))
Bruce is now saying the defence is a priority.
Nothing has been mentioned from Sunderland about Chamakh.
Aresenal made a bid (his dream move), not enough but Wenger isn't a great one for upping his offers and tends to stick closely to his original offer, saying he will be free in Jan.
Not gone down too well in Bordeaux, the player has thrown a major wobbly and has said he feels betrayed and is likely to go on a free or to us. Blackburn are also interested but he doesn't want to go there.
We took a lot of stick from Blanc and the Bordeaux chairman over the past couple of weeks, looks like it might of backfired on them. Couldn't help myself this was in the daily Mail today.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1204487/Arsenal-offered-striker-Marouane-Chamakh-6-5m-Bordeaux-apologise-Sunderland-insult.html
Come back, Arsenal! Desperate Bordeaux drop Marouane Chamakh asking price and apologise to Sunderland
By Sportsmail Reporter
Last updated at 9:05 PM on 05th August 2009
Bordeaux president Jean-Louis Triaud has challenged Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger to raise his £6.5m offer for Marouane Chamakh and has apologised to Steve Bruce after suggesting the striker was too good for Sunderland.
The French club hope to revive talks with Arsenal as they desperately try to offload the Morocco striker, while also listening to interest from Sunderland and Blackburn Rovers.
The player's first choice are the Gunners, but Arsenal balked when told to more than double their £6million to £15m.
The 25-year-old is out of contract next summer, when he could walk away for nothing, and has told Bordeaux he will not be accepting their renewal offer.
His boss Laurent Blanc insisted he would not sanction Chamakh's transfer to Sunderland and president Jean-Louis Triaud said last month: 'What is he going to do in Sunderland? I don't want to insult them but I don't even know where they finished last season.'
But Triaud, now desperate to do a deal around the £10m mark, has gone grovelling to the Black Cats manager.
'When I saw Steve Bruce's reaction... he said he didn't understand and that we'd insulted Sunderland a bit,' said Triaud. 'I sent him a little letter telling him that it was a misunderstanding and that we never said Sunderland wasn't a respectable club.
'If they took it that way, it's that we expressed ourselves badly and we apologize. It's a matter of courtesy.'
Tottenham and Fulham have also tracked Chamakh, while Wenger has insisted he will not pay over the odds for a player he could in five months open talks with over a free move.
Triaud said: 'It's up to Arsene to see what he wants to do. We have always said we would listen to the player, but not just in any way (for any amount).
'What I am hoping for is to reach a gentleman's agreement. It's always been clear between Chamakh and us. If there is a team in the big four (interested in signing him) we will look at it. But on terms that are acceptable to Bordeaux.
'It's always tough to work out the value of a player. Sometimes the value corresponds to the number of clubs interested in him. In this case there are several. The moment a player says "I'll go there and nowhere else", it's easier for Arsenal.
'Chamakh's dream is to join Arsenal and that's understandable. He's grown up with our club, and we want to please him.'
Oh Dear :devil:
As for the Bent price as I said trying to save face on both sides, I think Spurs will get £16.5 Million in total, if Bent scores a hatrick (his 500 goal for the club), on his 50th birthday playing against Plymouth Argyle in the Champions League Final on the 4th Wednesday of June during a blizzard.
His joining interview from SAFCTV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM8xfVPIiqs
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Yes kev, your defence is Tata! And to make it worst your best defender, Nyron Nosworthy, may be on the move after being linked with Portsmouth, Stoke, Blackburn and West Ham!
I think Sunderland has always underestimated the ability Nosworthy has. His partnership with Jonny Evans a couple seasons ago was rather formidable.
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Sunderland: The Strongest Survivors
Posted 04/08/09 11:47EmailPrintSave
Last season: 16th; FA Cup fourth round; Carling Cup fourth round.
Manager: Steve Bruce, 20-1 (joint 13th favourite) to be first boss out of a job.
Transfers in: Fraizer Campbell (£3.5m, Manchester United), Paulo da Silva (undisc, Toulca), Lorik Cana (£5m, Marseille).
Transfers out: Dwight Yorke, David Connolly, Arnau Riera, Darren Ward, Nick Colgan, Peter Hartley and Niall McArdle (all released), Michael Chopra (£4m, Cardiff), Greg Halford (undisc, Wolves), Dean Whitehead (£3m, Stoke), Djibril Cisse, Calum Davenport, Tal Ben Haim (all end of loans).
Sunderland chief scout Ricky Sbragia must wake up every morning, remember what he does for a living, and then feel a shiver down his spine at the thought of the nightmare he's just had - the one where he somehow got the top job at the Stadium of Light.
Steve Bruce, meanwhile, must go to bed each night and say a little 'thank you' to the guardian angel who has watched over his career, enabling him to escape from Birmingham to Wigan with perfect timing, and then to swap the JJB for a club the size of Sunderland.
And Niall Quinn, relieved of much of the burden now business has been concluded with Ellis Short, must look himself in the mirror and wonder whether Roy Keane was a mistake he got away with or a gamble that just came off.
Keane galvanised the team in the Championship - something Quinn failed to do - and the unlikely alliance was an instant success. Keane was then given funds that should have made Sunderland comfortable, and the fact is that they have stayed up. But the first Premier League season was a struggle, the second more of one. Cue Sbragia. Keane's reign came to an explosive end, while his successor's merely crumbled.
A squad such as this should have done far better. Yet, like Hull's, Sunderland's survival last season came down to a single goal. Unlike Hull's, the goal was scored at the KC Stadium, by Djibril Cisse. Even a draw in that game and the Black Cats would - all else being equal - have finished 18th instead of Steve Bruce's childhood team up the road in Newcastle.
The one thing to sing about was somehow finishing as north-east top dogs and Bruce has come in and got rid of a large number of the fleas circling around, slimming down the squad. Cisse, whose option for a permanent deal from Marseille was not taken up, is the most prominent of those to leave. A substantial transfer fee for a sadly injury-prone player would have been a risk - and perhaps Sunderland have enough of those.
£5.5m Kieran Richardson has played 49 games in two seasons - more than I thought, but not enough, and seven league goals are inadequate, too. £9m Craig Gordon has struggled for form as well as fitness across the same period.
Bruce has been given money to spend, and not just on Darren Bent. Lorik Cana, an Albanian midfielder, has been signed from Marseille, for £5m. Fraizer Campbell has been enticed, too, creating strong competition with and support for the excellent Kenwyne Jones.
Even if the man himself is eager to come to England and angry, Bordeaux are probably right that Marouane Chamakh is a class above the Black Cats. But Bruce has a better set of players at his disposal than any other manager of a bottom-half club.
One word of caution is that Bruce somehow managed to get relegated with the strongest Birmingham squad he assembled, just when it seemed he had established City as Premier League constants. But I believe he has the capacity to learn from his mistakes. He had an excellent season at Wigan and understandably felt limited by the prospects of further progress there.
Of the teams that finished in the bottom half, Sunderland are more or less the only ones I'd be surprised to see relegated this season. In the first two months of the season, they face six clubs they should have realistic hopes of finishing above.
On day one they visit Bolton, and travel to Stoke in late August and Burnley in mid-September. Chelsea make their sole league visit to the north-east in the first midweek, but Blackburn, Hull and Wolves are the other visitors.
Sunderland are guaranteed to be north-east top dogs this season. Bruce will want that to mean something more than avoiding relegation. Newcastle's implosion gives the club a rare opportunity. We should not forget that in the peak years under Peter Reid the Wearsiders were pushing hard for Europe; I can't see that this season, but Wigan had a go last term and if Bruce's new team can prosper then Short may be willing to pay the price that would require in 12 months' time.
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But Bruce has a better set of players at his disposal than any other manager of a bottom-half club.
Hull = Geovanni, Turner, Bullard, Zayatte, Cousin
Wigan = Bramble, Figueroa, Melchiot, N Zogbia, Cattermole, Rodallega, Scotty
Portsmouth = James, Distin, Campbell, Hreidarson, Finnan, Kranjkar, Kanu
Stoke = Sorenson, Ab. Faye, Shawcross, Delap, Etherington, Fuller, Beattie
Bolton = Jaaskelainen, Cahill, Steinsson, M. Taylor, Gardner, K Davies, Elmander
Blackburn = Robinson, Warnock, Samba, Nelsen, Gamst Pedersen, Mcarthy, Roberts
Sunderland = DaSilva, A. Ferdinand, Cana, Malbranque, Richardson, Bent, Jones
Not much to choose, but I will take Portsmouth or Wigan side any day, assuming the first get a striker to replace Crouch and Scotty show up for the second.
That said, Sunderland certainly has the best strike force.
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But Bruce has a better set of players at his disposal than any other manager of a bottom-half club.
Hull = Geovanni, Turner, Bullard, Zayatte, Cousin
Wigan = Bramble, Figueroa, Melchiot, N Zogbia, Cattermole, Rodallega, Scotty
Portsmouth = James, Distin, Campbell, Hreidarson, Finnan, Kranjkar, Kanu
Stoke = Sorenson, Ab. Faye, Shawcross, Delap, Etherington, Fuller, Beattie
Bolton = Jaaskelainen, Cahill, Steinsson, M. Taylor, Gardner, K Davies, Elmander
Blackburn = Robinson, Warnock, Samba, Nelsen, Gamst Pedersen, Mcarthy, Roberts
Sunderland = DaSilva, A. Ferdinand, Cana, Malbranque, Richardson, Bent, Jones
Not much to choose, but I will take Portsmouth or Wigan side any day, assuming the first get a striker to replace Crouch and Scotty show up for the second.
That said, Sunderland certainly has the best strike force.
I doubt the 3 players in bold will be at Portsmouth come September 1st.
As for us still unbalanced really need another CM/playmaker, RM CH & FB, need some pace, width and guile.
In reality since Jan the club has only spent about £4 Million on incoming players.
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Wigan's midfielder Lee Cattermole signs for Sunderland in a £6m plus add-ons deal.
Source: www.safc.com (http://www.safc.com)
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Wigan's midfielder Lee Cattermole signs for Sunderland in a £6m plus add-ons deal.
Source: www.safc.com (http://www.safc.com)
Wow. I really wasn't expecting this any more.
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HIGHLIGHTS - Sunderland v Manchester United (02-Oct-09) (http://www.viddler.com/explore/Flex/videos/80/)
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yuh tink we need one fuh wigan. ::)
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Shouldn't this thread be " Sunderland Forever (until k. Jones leaves)"
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Finally..
But this thread shoulda conceive when it has 3 trinis on Sunderland....
Shouldn't this thread be " Sunderland Forever (until k. Jones leaves)"
Right...The Janurary Xfer window openin in 2 months
yuh tink we need one fuh wigan. ::)
Why not.
and one for Bolton Wanderers: Jlloyd Samuel
and not forget one for Fulham/Soca Warriors Superstar: Bobby Zamora :devil:
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Shouldn't this thread be " Sunderland Forever (until k. Jones leaves)"
EXACTLY :devil:
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oh gawd, nothing involving Sunderland could be easy eh..
not even de friggin spelling in de thread title.. :devil: :devil:
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Since when a "[your team here] Forever" thread have to be a team with Trinbagonians in it?
Daz a new ting?
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go Spurs
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Shouldn't this thread be " Sunderland Forever (until k. Jones leaves)"
I was about to say dat
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Since when a "[your team here] Forever" thread have to be a team with Trinbagonians in it?
Daz a new ting?
Some men here does support their EPL Club side HARDER than their Country side :devil:
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Since when a "[your team here] Forever" thread have to be a team with Trinbagonians in it?
Daz a new ting?
Sunderland is one of a handful of EPL teams being followed regularly enough that men post about their exploits... nothing wrong with keeping the chronicles all in one place.
Conversely... when was the last time anybody posted anything about Wigan? Men just being idiots about things.
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oh gawd, nothing involving Sunderland could be easy eh..
not even de friggin spelling in de thread title.. :devil: :devil:
Your not wrong there ;)
Thanks Flex saves keep losing the thread in the Trini's in Action thread.
I will put news (KJ) here and match links and take it from there.
I would hope a couple may still follow the lads even after KJ goes, much more fun than being a plastic Manc / Scouse / Bitter or Cockeneee, but there's no accounting for taste.
Manu were there for the taking on Saturday, don't think the players knew how to mentally, seemed to come out 2nd half and expect an onslaught. 2 really poor goals to give away, again we caused our own problems. But I do believe we are probably now only 3/4 players short of a really decent team.
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Its been hard to follow this team with the amount of changes took place in the last six months. But its overall a much better side, and theyre proving it as well.
My question is, why the hell is Carlos gone and Kieran Richardson still ranking there?
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Its been hard to follow this team with the amount of changes took place in the last six months. But its overall a much better side, and theyre proving it as well.
My question is, why the hell is Carlos gone and Kieran Richardson still ranking there?
Richardson is English
It's clear to me that Bruce favours english players.
Then again he's english and can favour whoever he want.
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Its been hard to follow this team with the amount of changes took place in the last six months. But its overall a much better side, and theyre proving it as well.
My question is, why the hell is Carlos gone and Kieran Richardson still ranking there?
Richardson is English
It's clear to me that Bruce favours english players.
Then again he's english and can favour whoever he want.
Yeah he favor them for a country that favored him 5 times... in his illustrious career...!
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oh gawd, nothing involving Sunderland could be easy eh..
not even de friggin spelling in de thread title.. :devil: :devil:
Your not wrong there ;)
Thanks Flex saves keep losing the thread in the Trini's in Action thread.
I will put news (KJ) here and match links and take it from there.
I would hope a couple may still follow the lads even after KJ goes, much more fun than being a plastic Manc / Scouse / Bitter or Cockeneee, but there's no accounting for taste.
Manu were there for the taking on Saturday, don't think the players knew how to mentally, seemed to come out 2nd half and expect an onslaught. 2 really poor goals to give away, again we caused our own problems. But I do believe we are probably now only 3/4 players short of a really decent team.
Think thats a bit unfair...
Berbatov's goal was a once in a blue moon kind of finish.. Not much you can blame Sunderland for when an overhead kick like that goes in..
As for the last goal, you'd have to say that was a bit unfortunate as well..
Sunderland were right in this game and good value for 3 points, and what more is that they were actually settling the ball on the ground and playing football.. A much better performance than what we're used to.
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Bruce hails Bent record
Steve Bruce is adamant Sunderland's Darren Bent is right in the thick of the league's top marksmen.
Bent scored his seventh goal of the season in Saturday's 2-2 draw at Manchester United.
It is an impressive return for a player being hailed as the successor to former goalscoring hero Kevin Phillips and more than justifies Bruce's decision to spend a club record £10m to lure the 25-year-old north from Tottenham Hotspur, where he endured such a difficult time.
good goalscorer
But while some have retained doubts over Bent's ability, Bruce has none. And he expects the Londoner to go on to bigger and better things.
"Darren is up there with all the top goalscorers," said Bruce. "He is doing exactly what we bought him to do.
"He is a very good goalscorer and he is English. There are not many of them. That is why we paid the money we did. He can't do any more than score goals in the biggest and best league in the world."
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Darren Bent is BY FAR the most underrated footballer in England. I've always thought that, way back to his Charlton days. His goal against ManU was nasty.
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Darren Bent is BY FAR the most underrated footballer in England. I've always thought that, way back to his Charlton days. His goal against ManU was nasty.
Yea Bent is a boss :beermug: just hope KJ keep up with him on the goal scoring form he looks like he can do it this season. Really nice to see him take them long range shots lately.
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Bent and KJ have a good understanding. Sooo unlike the selfishness we saw in Cisse (spell?). The season for harvest of goals from a laden mango tree is ripe for the taking. Remeniscent of Cole and Yorke's understanding.
Lets see, it's a long season.
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oh gawd, nothing involving Sunderland could be easy eh..
not even de friggin spelling in de thread title.. :devil: :devil:
Your not wrong there ;)
Thanks Flex saves keep losing the thread in the Trini's in Action thread.
I will put news (KJ) here and match links and take it from there.
I would hope a couple may still follow the lads even after KJ goes, much more fun than being a plastic Manc / Scouse / Bitter or Cockeneee, but there's no accounting for taste.
Manu were there for the taking on Saturday, don't think the players knew how to mentally, seemed to come out 2nd half and expect an onslaught. 2 really poor goals to give away, again we caused our own problems. But I do believe we are probably now only 3/4 players short of a really decent team.
Think thats a bit unfair...
Berbatov's goal was a once in a blue moon kind of finish.. Not much you can blame Sunderland for when an overhead kick like that goes in..
As for the last goal, you'd have to say that was a bit unfortunate as well..
Sunderland were right in this game and good value for 3 points, and what more is that they were actually settling the ball on the ground and playing football.. A much better performance than what we're used to.
Not really although there is little that could be done about the finish, Ferninand made a stupid short header a bit panic ensured he then made a poor clearance that wasn't defended properly. He should of knew where he was and had just come out for the 2nd. We looked for the world that we expected a 2nd half battering imho.
Its been hard to follow this team with the amount of changes took place in the last six months. But its overall a much better side, and theyre proving it as well.
My question is, why the hell is Carlos gone and Kieran Richardson still ranking there?
Don't think he will be after next summer tbh. Too inconsistant a decent player on his day, only the days are too far apart. Need 2 wide men and another CM aswell as 2 FB's. The squad is too thin, Zenden is on a 2 week trial at the minute to add depth if fit enough. We'll see in Jan and especially the summer what Bruce is made of re transfers, selling decent players and replacing them with better ones and see what teh real ambition of teh club is.
Bent will score goals thats what he does.
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Today marks the 130th year of the club, so lets hope the result is kind
Sunderland v Liverpool
It is being shown on a lot of foriegn channels so a working link should be relatively easy to find.
Links not updated as of yet but 3 main ones are here.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=50962&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
Liverpool are without Torres and Gerrard and have a CL match mid week so if we perform we should stand a sporting chance of something from the game, here's hoping anyway.
We have signed Zenden until the end of the season and he is in the squad for todays game, shows how light teh squad is.
Have a nice weekend everyone.
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Flikin balloon score oui.
1-0
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well i'll be damned.....
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Liverpool deserve to be down for wearing them hideous uniforms
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Warriors any of the links provided by Kev are working for you,I cant hitch a ride with any of them
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KJ come to play boy!!!
I haven't seen him run so much in a while. Either he reads this forum or he was saving himself for when the WC campaign finish!!!....LOL :devil:
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Any working links Warriors
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Wait nah KJ have a first touch oui... and he running like ah bull.... Big Up bredda... even though yuh ah score in the Hex ah still support yuh :beermug:
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Liverpool deserve to be down for wearing them hideous uniforms
I'm kinda inclined to agree... although questionable decision-making by the ref in my mind.
Efan Ekoku opined that it was the responsibility of Reina and the defenders to get rid of it, but I'm not too sure about that. Is a player expected to put himself out of position to remove a foreign object from the pitch... or is that the responsibility of the officials?
Hard luck scenario... but have to give some credit to Sunderland regardless, hope they don't keep it up second half.
KJ come to play boy!!!
I haven't seen him run so much in a while. Either he reads this forum or he was saving himself for when the WC campaign finish!!!....LOL :devil:
You realll shitty dred...
:D
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KJ now get stretcher off.
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KJ now get stretcher off.
Kicked on the calf it looked like... achilles perhaps.
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KJ now get stretcher off.
That sucks hope its nothing serious, looks like he got kick in the back of his legs...
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the way his foot shift i find it look break footish..
hope its not too serious..
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the way his foot shift i find it look break footish...
Same thing I think I saw.
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Come nah man Steed! All yuh had to do was roll that back across to Bent.
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the way his foot shift i find it look break footish...
Same thing I think I saw.
All meat back dey... not quite dat serious
- Dr. Bakes
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What a shit squad this Sunderland is... clueless footballers, save for Bent.
Liverpool goal coming soon.
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the way his foot shift i find it look break footish...
Same thing I think I saw.
All meat back dey... not quite dat serious
- Dr. Bakes
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What a shit squad this Sunderland is... clueless footballers, save for Bent.
Liverpool goal coming soon.
Not when he get kick. Is when his foot land I was watching. But, yeah... hope it eh too serious.
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the way his foot shift i find it look break footish...
Same thing I think I saw.
All meat back dey... not quite dat serious
- Dr. Bakes
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What a shit squad this Sunderland is... clueless footballers, save for Bent.
Liverpool goal coming soon.
liverpool lucky they eh dong bout 3 goal.mediocre football from liverpool.
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liverpool lucky they eh dong bout 3 goal.mediocre football from liverpool.
Sunderland lucky they up one on dat shit goal...
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liverpool lucky they eh dong bout 3 goal.mediocre football from liverpool.
Sunderland lucky they up one on dat shit goal...
is 2 goal they shoulda have because de beachball score too. ;D
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7 frikkin mins added
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liverpool lucky they eh dong bout 3 goal.mediocre football from liverpool.
Sunderland lucky they up one on dat shit goal...
is 2 goal they shoulda have because de beachball score too. ;D
Bent did well in taking his opportunity though... all shit talk aside. An he really should have done better with the chance that hit the post. Can't say that the score is undeserved to be honest.
7 frikkin mins added
How yuh go complain about that... yuh forget how long Kenwyne and Cattermole lie dung and roll arung or what?
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liverpool lucky they eh dong bout 3 goal.mediocre football from liverpool.
Sunderland lucky they up one on dat shit goal...
is 2 goal they shoulda have because de beachball score too. ;D
Bent did well in taking his opportunity though... all shit talk aside. An he really should have done better with the chance that hit the post. Can't say that the score is undeserved to be honest.
7 frikkin mins added
How yuh go complain about that... yuh forget how long Kenwyne and Cattermole lie dung and roll arung or what?
fear of equalizin :-[
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ah boy,one victory and one draw against epl giants.........btw is liverpool still in de top 10. ;D
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Liverpool Kit Manager need to burn that strip.
Right now, Bruce is a flikin genius.
Liverpool behind Sunderland? Look ting.
Fire RAFA NOW!!!! Bring in a foreign... oh.. wait...
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rafa cussin up a storm on the bench...sunderland is lookin like a tuff team to beat this season boy
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Sunderland beat Liverpuddle ???
NICE ;D
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couldve easily been 3-0 if Bent had finish better after he push past Reina, and if Bent had put away the one he put on the post, and if Malbranque had square de friggin ball on a 2 v1..
it also had another good chance when all Reid had to do was square de government ball to ah onrushing Frazier Campbell..
the writing was on the wall for this liverpool side from the time they put that shit side out on the field.. Jay Spearing?? lol
on a side note, this is premature.. But Zenden have the most touches and composure i've seen in a Sunderland central midfield since Yorke.. To see a Sunderland player with a degree of calmness and some kinda idea of what to do with a football when he have it is refreshing.
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ah boy,one victory and one draw against epl giants.........btw is liverpool still in de top 10. ;D
That draw was ah tief
de ref give too much et :devil:
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Ah ha ha ha...
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Ah ha ha ha...
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Lol... Sun'lun fans quick on the draw I see. Shit goal... but you deserved the points more than us on merit. I done realize long time that this squad not up to par. We're not getting any younger, and not getting any better... certainly not under Rafa.
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What a novice GK. :o
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Ah ha ha ha...
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Reina look like he was going and dive to save the balloon
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dat sunlun keeper...gordon is he name?
he earn every pound on his pycheque today
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Reina look like he was going and dive to save the balloon
That is the only thing that coulda made it funnier.
Sunderland beat Liverpool and keep a clean sheet while at it !!!
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sunderland photoshop people in dey glee today :D
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laaaawd... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Villa 2 Chelsea 1
United 2 Bolton 1
BACK ON TOP BABY!
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dat sunlun keeper...gordon is he name?
he earn every pound on his pycheque today
How so? He barely had to break a sweat.
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Watch, they would have won that game without the almighty KJ. He ain't do shit. You could call me hater if you want to, but he was insignificant.
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Watch, they would have won that game without the almighty KJ. He ain't do shit. You could call me hater if you want to, but he was insignificant.
You know you a hater cause u straight up lie he didn't score a goal yes! but he was hustling and created some nice opportunities, one for bent with a great pass. He had a good game to me. what else you wanted him to do? you realize when he get substituted Leiverpool was pressuring Sunderland more? and sunderland didn't create much they were more defending...
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Watch, they would have won that game without the almighty KJ. He ain't do shit. You could call me hater if you want to, but he was insignificant.
umm.. you do realize that Benitez start with 3 central defenders (Carragher/Agger/Skrtel) to deal with KJ and Bent right?
all that double team and he still do he ting..
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Watch, I would save Sunderland's game versus Liverpool today in a bottle, as I am sure Steve Bruce did, so that as a head coach I could show it to my team for future reference on how a team should read a game and execute tackles from the start of the game to the end of the game, from my midfielders, my forwards, and all my defensive players and not get yellow carded, for most if not all, of those game winning tackles. I would also use Sunderland's game today versus Liverpool to remind my players on how a tackle should be executed, time and time again, and how a midfield should execute a game plan to a tee.
Sunderland played one of the best games today that I have seen any football team play in the EPL or anywhere else in the world for that matter in a long time, bar none except Barcelona.
I would also save Barcelona's best game in a bottle so that my team could see how a game plan should be executed on the field of play to perfection from start to finish, especially my midfield players.
Sunderland would have won that game or at least tie today's game against Liverpool based on all those timely tackles by both the midfield players and defensive players who were all supported by a goalkeeper who was wide awake. Kenwyne Jones had one defining moment when he made that defense splitting pass that Brent didn't score with. Looking back on that moment now and having the advantage of 50 - 50 hindsight, it did not prevent Sunderland from winning the game. After Mr. Jones left the game, the tackling did not stop, the midfield did not stop executing the game plan set forth by Mr. Bruce and the goalkeeper did not stop reading the game. Sunderland would have won that game or at worst, tie that game, with or without Mr. Kenwyne Jones. Frazier Campbell would have been sufficient enough to fill Kenwyne Jones position on the field, maybe better.
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KJ got injured ...whats his status
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KJ got injured ...whats his status
cosign
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KJ got injured ...whats his status
cosign
After the game Bruce said he was in the hospital just hope its not a broken foot... he done had to deal with that last year...
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Good game good result, now saying goal should of not stood and it should of been a drop ball outside the area. In reality the game should of been done and dusted well before the end.
BNS it was a really insepid Liverpool performance made more so by the fact we had to move Cana to CH at the start of the 2nd half and Cattermole went off leaving us with no real tacklers in CM and thats the only time when Liverpool controlled the game. Ferninand was put at LB and injured for the last 20 minutes.
Kenwyne and Cattermole were both taken to hospital no news as of yet. It maybe just conicidence but KJ was holding the same ankle after a tackle in the 1st half, hope both are not serious as the squad is wafer thin.
Roll on the Jan transfer window so we can get a couple of more players.
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Good game good result, now saying goal should of not stood and it should of been a drop ball outside the area. In reality the game should of been done and dusted well before the end.
BNS it was a really insepid Liverpool performance made more so by the fact we had to move Cana to CH at the start of the 2nd half and Cattermole went off leaving us with no real tacklers in CM and thats the only time when Liverpool controlled the game. Ferninand was put at LB and injured for the last 20 minutes.
Kenwyne and Cattermole were both taken to hospital no news as of yet. It maybe just conicidence but KJ was holding the same ankle after a tackle in the 1st half, hope both are not serious as the squad is wafer thin.
Roll on the Jan transfer window so we can get a couple of more players.
Your boys played hard and got a deserved result... I'm still haven't quite decided which about Liverpool was worst... Rafa, the kit or the performance.
Where did you read it suggested that the goal should have been disallowed... or is that just your opinion? I personally think it should have disallowed too but I'm not clear on what the rules actually say.
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Where did you read it suggested that the goal should have been disallowed
Apparently, the Referees' Association. Says it should've been a drop ball.
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BNS A couple of the papers and the BBC are running stories with x-refs saying it shouldn't of been allowed. But roughly the same thing happened a couple of years ago with ballons in a FA Cup Semi (I think) and nothing really was said then.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/8312966.stm
Freak goal was 'wrongly allowed'
A former FA Premier League referee says he is "amazed" Sunderland's winner against Liverpool, which deflected off a beach ball, was allowed to stand.
Jeff Winter told BBC Radio 5 live: "Everyone's going to have a field day but nobody's getting upset about it.
"But the laws of the game clearly state that if there's an outside interference the game has to be stopped.
"The referee (Mike Jones) and his assistant knew something was wrong, and it should have been a dropped ball."
The incident occurred when Darren Bent took a first-time shot from just inside the penalty area in one of Sunderland's first attacks during Saturday's Premier League match at the Stadium of Light.
The ball evaded Glen Johnson's attempted block and, at almost the same time, deflected off a large red beach ball at the edge of the six-yard box.
Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina found his eyes initially drawn to the path of the beach ball and was wrong-footed, in no position to make the save.
Jones did seem to consult the assistant referee but allowed the goal to stand.
Winter said: "Sunderland fans would say it would have probably gone in anyway and that it was a Liverpool fan who threw it [the beach ball] on the pitch.
"But I'm absolutely amazed. It is a basic law in football and the goal should just not have stood.
"I am absolutely amazed that a referee at that level of football, that between him, his assistant and the fourth official they didn't see what had happened and give the correct decision.
"There would have been absolute ructions at the Stadium of Light because the fans wouldn't have understood what had happened but I was watching yesterday afternoon and I was thinking 'hang on this can't be right'.
"I try to defend referees whenever possible but this, in terms of interpreting the laws of the game, is far more serious than when a ball crosses a line and somebody doesn't see it.
Benitez refuses to blame 'bad luck'
"But on this occasion the irony is that everyone is having a laugh and a joke about it." ..................................
Now for me that would open up a real can of worms with allsorts of stuff being thrown on the pitch where do you draw the line. Its a big talking point because its the only goal of the game, but we all know it shouldn't of been. If it shouldn't of been allowed fair enough but it is no worse than the many penalties/bookings/red crads etc not given in error that happens week in week out usually in favour of the "big" teams.
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this was a real funny situation, because it appears that the majority of stakeholders just did not know the rules governing something like this.. not the referees.. not the linesman.. not the players.. not the coaches.. and certainly not the fans..
hindsight is 20/20, but just imagine the uproar if the referee disallowed the goal right there and then, and called for a drop ball right there and then? Especially given that it was a Liverpool beach ball?
you're right kev, this would open up a real can of worms..
the same thing happened in an FA cup game some years ago i remember it was Man City playing and a light blue balloon deflect the ball just as it went in. everybody just sort of looked at it as a hard luck then, and its sort of what the response was yesterday.
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Reina had enough time to yell at one of the defenders who were doing nothing to kick that thing away. If that ball had come in higher and he (Reina) had to come claim that ball, he could have potentially landed on that thing and be seriously injured.
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Now for me that would open up a real can of worms with allsorts of stuff being thrown on the pitch where do you draw the line. Its a big talking point because its the only goal of the game, but we all know it shouldn't of been. If it shouldn't of been allowed fair enough but it is no worse than the many penalties/bookings/red crads etc not given in error that happens week in week out usually in favour of the "big" teams.
I'm surprised to see you making such a shit argument... and it reeks of partisanship to be honest. It's one thing to make a discretionary call (such as awarding a free kick or giving a card) in error. If what's being said is true then the rules are pretty clear and this call should have been automatic. Whether Sunderland should have scored more is beside the point... but I'm not about to get worked up about it.
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Now for me that would open up a real can of worms with allsorts of stuff being thrown on the pitch where do you draw the line. Its a big talking point because its the only goal of the game, but we all know it shouldn't of been. If it shouldn't of been allowed fair enough but it is no worse than the many penalties/bookings/red crads etc not given in error that happens week in week out usually in favour of the "big" teams.
I'm surprised to see you making such a shit argument... and it reeks of partisanship to be honest. It's one thing to make a discretionary call (such as awarding a free kick or giving a card) in error. If what's being said is true then the rules are pretty clear and this call should have been automatic. Whether Sunderland should have scored more is beside the point... but I'm not about to get worked up about it.
Not really, it doesn't seem to be that black & white between even the refs, what I meant by can of worms is fans being what they are how many times do you think things will end up on the pitch when opposition is attacking if they start stopping the game for "foriegn objects", what counts as a foriegn object a ballon no as with the Man City cup tie, a soft beach ball yes, toilet rolls used to be popular, thats what I meant by can of worms.
As for ref bias happens every week, look at last weekend for example the stone wall penalty against Arsenal not given, even in our game Richardson picked up 2 stupid yellow cards (his fault) for petty things yet 2 Manu players did much more serious things and not even yellow carded, Rooney's off teh ball lunge at Reid, could of even been a straight red and the tackle which the ref played on where the defender just got in front of Kenwyne. I would guarantee that if those offences had of been against Manu then the punishments would of been a lot harsher. You may think its a shit argument but it mounts up to a lot of points and a lot less suspensions over the season when it happens so regularly. I have no problem with genuine decisions right or wrong but I do have a problem with the obvious bias that has gone on for years.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/EpqB7KAdejY
Invite Arsene for me too... ;D
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"dont cry, we won de mickey mouse treble"............lololol
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Cattermole could face months out
By Graeme Anderson (Sunderland Echo)
Sunderland midfield star Lee Cattermole is facing a lengthy lay-off.
But striker Kenwyne Jones is expected to shake off an ankle injury and have a chance of facing Birmingham City this Saturday.
Both players were stretchered off in separate incidents in the second half of Sunderland's weekend win over Liverpool.
Although both injuries looked potentially serious, it is Cattermole's
which is a big area for concern while the news on Jones looks as though it will be good.
Steve Bruce revealed after the game: "Kenwyne went to hospital from the game and when Lee Cattermole wants to come off, you know there is something wrong with him."
However, after an inspection of Jones's twisted ankle, he was not kept in hospital and there is every chance it will won't prevent him being involved at St Andrews.
Cattermole, who was stretchered off with a twisted knee following an attempted challenge, could be out for months.
The midfielder, who has already played through much of the season with a heel injury, will have to wait to see the extent of the injury. He was undergoing a scan today.
But the damage is thought to be ligaments and the club is waiting to see whether it is medial ligament damage, in which case he could be out for six to eight weeks, or cruciate ligaments, which could sideline him for many months to come.
The injuries to both players and the illness of left-back George McCartney, who had to be substituted at half-time, was a concern to Bruce.
He said: "That was the one downside to come out of the Liverpool game because they are big players for us – Jones and Cattermole are like our Torres and Gerrard.
"And we are not at the stage of our development where we can afford to be without our big players."
Bruce was thrilled with the work of his big players on the day and in particular the sheer industry and application of Cattermole and captain Lorik Cana.
"They both epitomise what I like in a footballer," he said. "They go out there and they give everything they've got.
"When you've got players like that you can go to sleep easy on a Friday night because you can rely on them.
"I knew Lorik would become a cult hero at Sunderland and, against Liverpool, I thought he was immense. He gave one of the Premier League performances of the season so far.
"He got an early booking, but you can't contain his exuberance – he doesn't try to do anything malicious, he just wants to win the game.
"We'll have to deal with the suspension when it comes, but we knew that would happen when we signed him and it's worth it.
"He was outstanding against Liverpool."
It was against Liverpool that Bruce first saw Cana play.
He said: "I saw him play against them twice in the Champions League and I knew he was captain of Marseille and Albania – that doesn't happen unless you've got some character about you.
"He's a cult hero down in Marseille and I couldn't believe they were making him available. The transfer actually was one of the easiest to do – we agreed a fee in 24 hours and he flew over to Amsterdam where we were at the time and got it signed that night.
"He just wanted to come and play in England and I said English fans would love him, love his style of play."
Sunderland fans have already taken him to their hearts and, for Bruce, the fact that the Albanian can play in central defence as well as midfield is a real bonus, given that his squad could become really stretched now by injury and suspension.
"Thank God we managed to signed Bolo Zenden during the week," Bruce added.
"We had to make three substitutions in the Liverpol game because of injury and it was a real test of us."
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He said: "That was the one downside to come out of the Liverpool game because they are big players for us – Jones and Cattermole are like our Torres and Gerrard.
"And we are not at the stage of our development where we can afford to be without our big players."
Ah love it!!
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He said: "That was the one downside to come out of the Liverpool game because they are big players for us – Jones and Cattermole are like our Torres and Gerrard.
"And we are not at the stage of our development where we can afford to be without our big players."
Ah love it!!
So Bent is Sunderland's who, Voronin?
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He said: "That was the one downside to come out of the Liverpool game because they are big players for us – Jones and Cattermole are like our Torres and Gerrard.
"And we are not at the stage of our development where we can afford to be without our big players."
Ah love it!!
So Bent is Sunderland's who, Voronin?
And who's Cana?
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The law is pretty clear. The only thing the ball can deflect off is the referee - he is considered 'part of the pitch', as well as corner flags and goalposts. Just about everything else is an outside agent.
Even a sprinkler head popping up is an outside agent as seen in the 'you are the ref' column.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/03/you-are-the-ref
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http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/Odibb7zxPck
Darren Brent on his Balloon goal incident! 8)
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Kenwyne's ankle is OK not broken but very sore, but he is only rated 50/50 for the weekend.
Cattermole's is much more serious has to visit a knee specialist so could be out for a very long time. Time to eat humble pie for me because he has been much better than I thought he would be so he will be missed. Add another CM to the Jan shopping list as I said when let the rest go.
Edit Cattermole has done his medial which is 3 months on teh sidelines, luckily not his cruciate
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Bruce has Black Cats purring
By: Norman Hubbard (Soccernet.com)
First there was the question of Alan Wiley's fitness. Then there were the issues caused by an inflatable ball purchased from the Liverpool club shop. Sunderland's successes have an unfortunate habit of being obscured in unlikely fashion. Nevertheless, the last two matches have marked a seismic step forward from Steve Bruce's side.
Ahead after 90 minutes at Old Trafford, their eventual 2-2 draw remained hugely creditable and, but for the stupidity of the sent-off Kieran Richardson, could have been a victory. The slender margin of the 1-0 win over Liverpool could certainly have been greater, regardless of the bizarre circumstances of the sole goal.
Now Sunderland sit seventh, ahead of Liverpool. They are the interlopers in the upper reaches in the Premier League. It suggests that the amiable Steve Bruce's brand of revolution, featuring a high turnover of players in the summer, may enable him to accomplish what Roy Keane's more intimidating attempts at man-management could not and establish Sunderland in the top half of the table.
Despite a shared past, one former team-mate has spent much of his time on Wearside undoing the other's work. Six of Keane's signings have been sold and three more loaned out as an overgrown squad has been pruned intelligently. Quality, not quantity, is now the prevailing ethos at the Stadium of Light. The theme that less is more has been epitomised by a slimmed down Andy Reid, now producing arguably the best form of his career.
Keane's fearless persona contrasted with his team's timidity against their betters. The manager could not be cowed, but his players could. Sunderland took two points from 16 games against the Big Four under Keane and Ricky Sbragia in the previous two campaigns. Under Bruce, they managed four points within the space of two matches.
It is a reason why, rather than the Irishman's Black Cats, the two sides that provide a closer comparison with Bruce's team are his own Wigan and Peter Reid's Sunderland. Lee Cattermole is a common denominator between the Lancastrians and the Wearsiders. His high-energy approach, mirrored by the new captain Lorik Cana, is reminiscent of Cattermole's partnership with Wilson Palacios for the Latics. Wigan overpowered sides in midfield then, just as Sunderland did against Liverpool on Saturday. The loss of Cattermole for three months with a medial ligament injury should come as a relief to less energetic midfielders elsewhere who have spotted the Black Cats on the fixture list.
In attack, however, Sunderland supporters may be transported back a decade. With a combined total of 13 goals, Kenwyne Jones and Darren Bent are shaping up to be one of the Premier League's most effective and prolific partnerships. With a combination of a gangly target man and a specialist scorer, they are Sunderland's modern equivalents of Niall Quinn and Kevin Phillips. The current chairman was more of a dependable target man than Jones, although the latter has the advantage of a turn of pace that Quinn lacked. The arch-predator Phillips, meanwhile, was a superior finisher to Bent, though the younger man's strike rate (eight in nine games) has similarities with Phillips' 30-goal campaign in 1999-2000 when he won the European Golden Boot.
Reid's side finished seventh in successive seasons. Even with the benefit of hindsight, that can still appear somewhat strange; with the classic alliance of a big man and a smaller sidekick in attack, theirs was an essentially rudimentary approach. While Nicky Summerbee provided an effective supply line from the right in 1999-2000 and Don Hutchison a steady stream of goals from that flank the following campaign, a glimpse at the supporting cast prompts questions about their exploits. Such luminaries as Paul Butler, Darren Williams, Chris Makin and Alex Rae all featured regularly; Danny Dichio, Darren Holloway and Paul Thirlwell had bit-part roles. Even those who enjoyed better careers elsewhere, such as Kevin Kilbane, Gavin McCann, Thomas Sorensen and Jody Craddock, were no more than steady Premier League performers.
In contrast, Bruce's side can provide glimpses of quality. On either flank, Reid and Steed Malbranque are skilful performers who have provided the ammunition for the forwards. Richardson, despite his more brainless moments, is similarly capable while the teenager Jordan Henderson has plenty of potential. A defence that has been breached 13 times in nine games has scope for improvement, but Michael Turner is already looking a solid acquisition while Paulo da Silva and John Mensah may reinforce, as Cana already has, Bruce's reputation as a fine importer of talent.
The manager has already said that Sunderland will be targeting the Carling Cup in a quest for silverware. It would be one way of surpassing Reid's achievements. Others are more difficult: with both Merseyside teams in Sunderland's slipstream, it would be no surprise if one or both accelerates past them. But even with a lower finish, this looks like the outstanding Sunderland side of the Premier League era.
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Birmingham v Sunderland KO 3.00pm GMT
Kenwyne is looking like he might make the game, Bent has also been suffering from flu this week.
Its being carried by a few foriegn channels so maybe get a working link (not updated as of yet)
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=50967&part=sports
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://atdhe.net/
Points mean prizes but would like to see better performances, defence again was lost on occasions last week in the 1st half before Cana went and played CH, can't afford that this week with Cattermole out, Mensah is still out/ doubtful. Should really be able to get a result, here's hoping.
Have a nice weekend everyone.
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10am ET on FSC today
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thanks for the links Kev :beermug:
Didn't think I'd ever see the day when I'd be rooting against Sunderland for the benefit of Liverpool... but that's the state of things as they stand. Kudos though to Sun'lun... 7th place in the EPL... nice!
I might as well root for them though... they'll stumble soon enough and 'Pool will be back on top :devil:
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half time .. sunderland behind 1-0 to birmingham..lack luster performances by them in the first half.. hoping for a change in 2nd half.. otherwise 0 pts for sunderland this rounds
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Yea Sunderland looked horrible first half... And KJ well won't go there hopefully he go have a better second half...
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Wow 2-0 Birmingham this gotta be as bad i have seen Sunderland play in a long time...
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Even I wasn't expecting this result... 2-0 Birmingham on a McFadden goal in the 49' I think. Sweet flick-on by Cameron Jerome with his heel to spring McFadden who seemed to have wasted the opportunity when he shifted the ball from his left onto his right foot past the defender. Somehow he was able to get Gordon leaning the wrong way, curl it past a defender on the line and still inside the far post.
...Steed Malbranque is a waste.
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I in my mid 40's and you put on as a sunderland winger and I crossing ball that would make that and any defence cringe,them men getting pay big bucks and cyah cross ah ball to save they life.........
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thanks for the links Kev :beermug:
Didn't think I'd ever see the day when I'd be rooting against Sunderland for the benefit of Liverpool... but that's the state of things as they stand. Kudos though to Sun'lun... 7th place in the EPL... nice!
I might as well root for them though... they'll stumble soon enough and 'Pool will be back on top :devil:
not wrong there BNS, happy with top half although as already stated think we are short in key areas.
Not suprised by the result watching the performances this season, thought we controlled the game early on without hurting them. Reid was poor today but he has been one of teh best performaners this season so due an off day. malbranque has been off form all season. Most looked like they felt they just had to turn up, Bent / cana looked bothered not many others.
Though Kenwyne was poor today, let the guy in front of him for the 1st goal, but a couple of occasions on cut backs I was expecting to see him arriving in the box but he was nowhere a couple of other times caught on his heels, but tbf that normal for him. I thought it summed it up in teh last couple of minutes when trying to equalise that Turner was further forward than him, WTF?
Got exactly what we deserved nothing, found the subs strange I was amazed it wasn't changed at half time and that was just compounded by taking another 20 minutes. Passing was poor, defence backed off and looked like it always has and resorted to hoof ball. Roll on Jan (boring theme already)
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I actually thought that KJ put in a decent shift the final 20... not enough in a 90 minute match obviously, but the entire squad seemed revitalized by the subbing on of Cana, Campbell and the dude with the weird name. The addition of the third striker seemed to free up Kenwyne a bit and he became more active in creating chances for himself and others. I thought he linked nicely with Bent... they really do complement each other, but yes... Kenwyne can be more assertive. Not sure how the injury and missed practices affected his performance today.
Darrent Bent... quality signing, nothing but 100% effort to go with 100% results thus far this season.
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BNs your right but I thought Bruce got it badly wrong leaving the same team to come out 2nd half, I would of put on Zenden, took off Malbranque and probably shunted Henderson wide, a midfiled with only 1 tackler and a defence that backs off with a LB that isn't a LB and can't tackle is just asking for trouble. The majority of goals conceded this season have been soft to say the least.
I struggle to understand why Kenwyne just seems to be on his heels more often than not, its not that much of an unusual occurance, it was more noticeable today with 2 good cutbacks that should of been attacked that just wasted. He would certainly get more goals if he went near post / far post followed things in etc, Bent's very good at it, but he seems to watch from outside / edge of teh box more often than not in open play.
As I said most of them were poor today for the 1st 70 minutes. I would like to see Mensah in and give them a chance to settle into the team, but he has been injury prone in the past, if Da Silva isn't as good as Ferninand then South American CH's aren't up to much. I know he needs to adjust but thats not going to happen on the bench all the time. Still waiting to see a convincing performance and still not near a settled team, the big difference is we have had the decision that we haven't had the last couple of seasons, we have improved without a doubt, but still short in key areas as mentioned earlier in the thread. Would ideally like to keep the same position (ish) until Jan which would make life a lot easier to attract good players if the club has the ambition / money to.
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so wham ??? Birmingham doh need points ???
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Kev You all are going to miss Catermole big time, Sunderland looks so much better when he plays. I am not sure if Zenden could fill that spot, he was good player in his earlier days, his legs might not be up to the task.
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Sunderland is a big team they should be winning every game.
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SAFC v Aston Villa (Carling Cup)
Sunderland are showing five changes from the defeat at Birmingham as they prepare to take on Aston Villa in the fourth round of the Carling Cup (KO 7.45pm).
Paulo Da Silva, Nyron Nosworthy and George McCartney all start in defence, while Daryl Murphy wins his first start of the season with Kieran Richardson pushed forward in midfield.
Fraizer Campbell - a scorer against Birmingham in the last round - gets the nod to partner Kenwyne Jones up front in the absence of leading scorer Darren Bent.
Meanwhile youngsters David Meyler and Adam Reed are named amongst the substitutes.
SAFC: Gordon; Da Silva, McCartney, Turner, Nosworthy; Murphy, Henderson, Cana (C), Richardson, Campbell, Jones.
Subs: Fulop, Ferdinand, Healy, Meyler, Reid, Malbranque, Reed.
Aston Villa: Guzan, Dunne, A Young, Milner, Agbonlahor, Heskey, Petrov, Reo-Coker, Cuellar, Warnock, Collins.
Subs: Friedel, L Young, Sidwell, Carew, Delph, Shorey, Beye.
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All yuh see KJ missed a penalty in the 85th min... :(
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0-0 85th min
85' Kenwyne Jones powers the penalty kick with his right foot to the lower left corner and the goalkeepper saves it!
Dem fans on SMB will be livid. :devil:
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0-0 85th min
85' Kenwyne Jones powers the penalty kick with his right foot to the lower left corner and the goalkeepper saves it!
Dem fans on SMB will be livid. :devil:
They always livid.
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0-0 after extra-time. Penalties.....
Villa win 3-1 on penalties. Guzan saved 3 of Sunderland's penalties.
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0-0 after extra-time. Penalties.....
Villa win 3-1 on penalties. Guzan saved 3 of Sunderland's penalties.
Guzan save 4 out of 5 pens... 1 from KJ and 3 in pen shootout
that's impressive
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Apparently KJ was quarreling with Bruce for leaving him out of the shootout, then walk off after the game in a huff.
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Apparently KJ was quarreling with Bruce for leaving him out of the shootout, then walk off after the game in a huff.
well after he poops down himself d first time, he really expected d manager to call him up again ???
get real eh KJ!
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0-0 85th min
85' Kenwyne Jones powers the penalty kick with his right foot to the lower left corner and the goalkeepper saves it!
Dem fans on SMB will be livid. :devil:
KJ really miss ah penalty at dis stage ah de game?
speaking of PKs, anyone see Ebanks-Blake eqaulizer against de same Aston Villa....right down the middle REL, REL effing hard!!!!
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Missed penalty is a hard luck once yuh put it on target.
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Apparently KJ was quarreling with Bruce for leaving him out of the shootout, then walk off after the game in a huff.
well after he poops down himself d first time, he really expected d manager to call him up again ???
get real eh KJ!
Yes why not?!
if he is one of the designated penalty takers and feels confident enough to redeem himself, why should the coach rip up all previous plans and leave him off the shootout list for the 6th choice kicker?
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Apparently KJ was quarreling with Bruce for leaving him out of the shootout, then walk off after the game in a huff.
well after he poops down himself d first time, he really expected d manager to call him up again ???
get real eh KJ!
Yes why not?!
if he is one of the designated penalty takers and feels confident enough to redeem himself, why should the coach rip up all previous plans and leave him off the shootout list for the 6th choice kicker?
Dinho ah remember doing dat wid one ah meh high school youth and he make me (and himself, of course) look good after he put it away...but seriously have some consideration for Bruce nah, KJ now miss de WINNER, and yuh taking ah chance on him again??
ah imagine men would be split on what dey woulda do, but i for one wasn't letting him kick again.
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Apparently KJ was quarreling with Bruce for leaving him out of the shootout, then walk off after the game in a huff.
well after he poops down himself d first time, he really expected d manager to call him up again ???
get real eh KJ!
Yes why not?!
if he is one of the designated penalty takers and feels confident enough to redeem himself, why should the coach rip up all previous plans and leave him off the shootout list for the 6th choice kicker?
wat if he feelin d opposite? wat if he feelin under pressure? bruce shud still put him on? bruce must be read how KJ was movin an wasnt confident in KJ's ability to convert d penalty in d shootout at dat time, so he change he plans!
football is a fast pace ting. tings happen in d game without notice an yuh have to adapt to suit.
let KJ dig he horrors
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Apparently KJ was quarreling with Bruce for leaving him out of the shootout, then walk off after the game in a huff.
well after he poops down himself d first time, he really expected d manager to call him up again ???
get real eh KJ!
Yes why not?!
if he is one of the designated penalty takers and feels confident enough to redeem himself, why should the coach rip up all previous plans and leave him off the shootout list for the 6th choice kicker?
wat if he feelin d opposite? wat if he feelin under pressure? bruce shud still put him on? bruce must be read how KJ was movin an wasnt confident in KJ's ability to convert d penalty in d shootout at dat time, so he change he plans!
football is a fast pace ting. tings happen in d game without notice an yuh have to adapt to suit.
let KJ dig he horrors
we could only say for certain when we actually see the game or highlights.. But if KJ so vex about it, i willing to believe that he was feeling confident enough to take it and get salt..
and from prior observation, it really wouldn't shock me if Bruce had simply tell him, "nah sit down over so, yuh not taking none".. In which case I find that is not on.
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Arright. De fans off KJ back now. Richardson is de new goat for throwing away a 2 on 1. Like ah say, dey always livid.
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ok ah now watch the highlights..
KJ kick ah shit penalty.. a roller on the ground to the immediate left of the keeper that Guzan was only happy to wrap up.
But Richardson miss take de cake..
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Guzan save 4 out of 5 pens... 1 from KJ and 3 in pen shootout
that's impressive
He's a star in the making. Keep your eye out for him.
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Arright. De fans off KJ back now. Richardson is de new goat for throwing away a 2 on 1. Like ah say, dey always livid.
Richardson was always de goat...
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KJ's wasn't a good penalty tried to place it no real power, I don't know for a fact but it looked like he scuffed a bit to me. As I said when Bent gave hime the penalty he is not one of those players I am a 100% confident will stick it away, same with 1 to 1's.
Richardson also missed a golden opportunity to score just as bad as a penalty.
The penalty shoot out Cana's was poor the other 2 were decent and I thought the keeper did well to save them.
Picked up a couple of injuries which is worrying given how thin the squad is.
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KJ's wasn't a good penalty tried to place it no real power, I don't know for a fact but it looked like he scuffed a bit to me. As I said when Bent gave hime the penalty he is not one of those players I am a 100% confident will stick it away, same with 1 to 1's.
Richardson also missed a golden opportunity to score just as bad as a penalty.
The penalty shoot out Cana's was poor the other 2 were decent and I thought the keeper did well to save them.
Picked up a couple of injuries which is worrying given how thin the squad is.
Serves KJ right! he knows bloody well that he's no penalty taker but he's always front and center to kick penalties.
on the soca warriors squad there are only two good penalty takers, dwight yorke who's ah master @ taking penalties, and jason scotland, all the rest suck! including KJ.
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Serves KJ right! he knows bloody well that he's no penalty taker
That explains why he took all those penalties for Southampton, I guess.
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Serves KJ right! he knows bloody well that he's no penalty taker
That explains why he took all those penalties for Southampton, I guess.
You could actually take penalties and score without any technique whatsoever, it's not hard, as ah matter of fact i've done it, and i'm no footballer.
i believe if you kick it hard enough and far out the reach of the keeper , then you increase your chances of scoring. my point is cory, there are footballer who really knows how to take penalties, like the great frank lampard and stevie G. but IMO KJ is one of the fellas who gets lucky ever so often, but he's in no wise ah penalty specialist like frank. L and stvie G.
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You could actually take penalties and score without any technique whatsoever, it's not hard, as ah matter of fact i've done it, and i'm no footballer.
i believe if you kick it hard enough and far out the reach of the keeper , then you increase your chances of scoring. my point is cory, there are footballer who really knows how to take penalties, like the great frank lampard and stevie G. but IMO KJ is one of the fellas who gets lucky ever so often, but he's in no wise ah penalty specialist like frank. L and stvie G.
You eh bet yuh could talk some variety ah fokry nah! So daiz not ah friggin Technique? Wha assness yuh does ketch yuhself typin in troot. You know KJ to miss ah setta penalties? Back at South Hampton you think they say "you don't have technique but you're lucky so you get to take PKs"? Come on nah fella, talk wid sense nah. Stop yuh dark hearted bullshit :devil:
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Dry so mih government out in de open? lol.
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Dry so mih government out in de open? lol.
Breddren , doh try tuh make meh look like an a$$hole nah man :shameonyou:! didn't you start posting under the name planetcory ? well all i did was use yuh old site name and shorten it, is you who give away yuh governments and not me.
it's like ah man callin me cool, or someone saying TT for the member formally know as true trini/ jack manday/ now trinity cross, i does still call the bredder true trini BC when i joined the site that was his name on the board.
just like controversal, i know him as TI BC before he changed his name he was trini infinite.
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Dry so mih government out in de open? lol.
Breddren , doh try tuh make meh look like an a$$hole nah man :shameonyou:! didn't you start posting under the name planetcory ? well all i did was use yuh old site name and shorten it, is you who give away yuh governments and not me.
it's like ah man callin me cool, or someone saying TT for the member formally know as true trini/ jack manday/ now trinity cross, i does still call the bredder true trini BC when i joined the site that was his name on the board.
just like controversal, i know him as TI BC before he changed his name he was trini infinite.
Lawd. Yuh eh see I laughin bout it. You takin it more serious than me. It all good. Relax.
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Sunderland v West Ham KO 3 GMT
Just on a couple of foriegn channels so you might struggle for a link that works.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=52754&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/index.html
http://iraqgoals.net/
West Ham are playing well, but neither have we really so god knows what will happen.
Have a nice weekend
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Kenwyne shove down a man and get sen off. West Ham leadng 2-1.
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KJ red card ??? ???
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Not for the 1st time or I suspect the last time this season gave away / gifted the opposition goals, when really we were on top, I am even sick of saying the same thing week after week season after season FFS.
Didn't really see the incident that Kenwyn got sent off for just seen the player down and out came the red card. But the truth is that all he did upto that point really, not in the match at all.
3 game ban for Kenwyne, another yellow for Cana, Cattermole injured and Campbell sidelined makes the team for Spurs next week look very lightweight.
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For the vast majority a rather pointless post on here for this and the next couple of weeks.
Spuds v Sunderland KO 3.00 GMT
No Kenwyne, Cana, Cattermole, Mensah or even Zenden so a makeshift team or rather a weak midfield, Campbell is likely to play but severely doubt he is fully fit, its on a fair few foriegn channels os might get to see it if anybody wants to which I doubt.
Usual links not updated yet.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=53791&part=sports
http://www.atdhe.net/index.html
http://iraqgoals.net/
A radio link that has been working not sure if will still work today or not
http://mobile.safc.com/page/sub/Live...,10281,00.html
Don't expect anything from the game, have a nice weekend everyone.
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The game's being shown at 10 am DST here in the US on ESPN2.
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Thank you Kev, and B&S.
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Thank you Kev, and B&S.
No problem... Sunderland actually looking very, very good... and unfortunate to find themselves down. Bent had a fair shout for a penalty, but ultimately I think the ref got the 50-50 call right. Gomez made a brave save that nearly dislocated his shoulder. Mins later he had another breakaway save on Richardson. Reid and Henderson are having brilliant games for Sunderland, with Campbell, Richardson and Malbranque also having good games.
1-0 Spurs at the half.
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This is probably the best Sun'land has played all season ... and they down 1-0 ...
But a very entertaining game.
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Bent with a nice dive to draw contact with Gomez... Penal
SAVED... by Gomez. Turnabout is fairplay, but Sunderland can't buy a break in this game, lol.
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Gomez with a nice save of said penalty.
Justice?
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Gordon off with an injury... Martin Fulop come on in time to get string up from Huddlestone. Rocket off the underside of the crossbar 2-0 in the 70'.
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Huddleston for Carrick in that Engalnd squad for South Africa. Always said I thought he could be better...great passing range, and his fitness has improved significantly.
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Huddleston for Carrick in that Engalnd squad for South Africa. Always said I thought he could be better...great passing range, and his fitness has improved significantly.
I glad man finally starting to recognize dis fella... I've always been impressed by his range yes, but moreso the weight of his passes, almost always perfect even from distance. He has great vision and superb touch on his passes. He's also an excellent holding mid- a role he commands for the U-23 squad.
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Thought it was a good performance, don't think we deserved to lose tbh.
Personally thought the 1st penalty shout was the strongest, 2nd that Bent got knew the keeper was going in and waited for it, don't like to see that myself but most strikers will do it. Having given teh penalty the ref produced a yellow card if he was going to bring a card out should of been red, no the only strange decision though.
Bent's penalty was poor imho, Reid played wonderfully as he has most of teh season, all the ball bounces went Spuds way, also thought Defoe was very naughty on his late challenge on Gordon, again no foul given.
Nice easy game next week Arsenal, glad a few of you decided to watch even though KJ is out.
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I think the ref gave the yellow b/c it was not a clear goal-scoring opportunity... Bent booted it out of reach and nearly out of play. I think he gave the penalty because under the circumstances he was obligated to, but possibly he saw Bent play the contact.
I also have no problem with the non-penalty on Gomes' first save... bang-bang play and they both seemed to get there at the same time to the naked eye. On replay Gomes may have been a hair late. Also no issue with Defoe's challenge on Gordon, the follow thru didn't seem to have any intent on it, nor did it seem that vicious to be honest... was surprised that Gordon suffered as much as he did.
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BNS the penalty decisions tbh I could understand if both were given, or not tbh.
I thought the ball was well gone before Defoe put his challenge in, wouldn't be the 1st or last time he has done it either, so I will have to disagree with you on that one.
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Espnsoccernet.com poll you guys should vote... I think KJ - Bent should be above Rooney and Berbatov personally...
Thank you for voting
Who's the superior partnership?
Drogba - Anelka 64.7 %
Rooney - Berbatov 28.1 %
Bent - Jones 7.2 %
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Thought it was a good performance, don't think we deserved to lose tbh.
Personally thought the 1st penalty shout was the strongest, 2nd that Bent got knew the keeper was going in and waited for it, don't like to see that myself but most strikers will do it. Having given teh penalty the ref produced a yellow card if he was going to bring a card out should of been red, no the only strange decision though.
Bent's penalty was poor imho, Reid played wonderfully as he has most of teh season, all the ball bounces went Spuds way, also thought Defoe was very naughty on his late challenge on Gordon, again no foul given.
Nice easy game next week Arsenal, glad a few of you decided to watch even though KJ is out.
I agree with you Kev you guys played most of the football today and deserved a result.
Harry definitely got his tactics wrong today we looked out of sorts, had no width going forward and struggled to keep possession beyond a few passes, we never really got going until Krancjar came on.
I don't see how the first shout was a penalty, the second was clearly a dive, Bent was going down before the keeper got there but I can't fault the ref for giving it. Bent got what he deserved though, it would of been a sure goal had he played around the keeper instead of kicking it away and going down.
I felt the kick on Brown by Defoe was dirty as well but in the ref's defense the ball wasn't in the keeper's hands so it could have been taken as a stab at the ball and not at at keeper.
Overall a sh!t performance by Spurs today but after the fiasco at the Arse last week I'll take the 3 points and pray for Modric's swift return.
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Sunderland v Arsenal KO 3.00 GMT
On plenty of foriegn channels as its Arsenal so usual links.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=56174&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
Gordon has been added to the injury list with a broken arm, 3 months or so.
Turner is suspended (still think he is an average defender)
Mensah and Zenden both available for selection, obviously still no KJ.
Arsenal have a few out / just returning so don't really know how they will line up.
Should be an interesting game, have a nice weekend.
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Game on FSC.
Arsenal already threatening to score.
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Game on FSC.
Arsenal already threatening to score.
game not on fsc at least not in TnT.
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Graig Forrest is such a c**t. Them Sportnet nannies went into there broadcast with a mindset that Sunderland is ah real shit side (no quality at all). There is an obvious improvement in the team, no kind ah research was done by these idiots.
All that said, Steed should've finish his two clear cut oppotunities, no class at all. ;D
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wey KJ?
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1-0 Sunderland
Bent off a corner
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Game on FSC.
Arsenal already threatening to score.
Sunderland draws first blood
ah hope de giant ent rouse up now :D
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wey KJ?
He watching the game on FSC :D
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wey KJ?
He watching the game on FSC :D
Seems so. I say he must be injured
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wey KJ?
He watching the game on FSC :D
Seems so. I say he must be injured
suspended as a result of the red card
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wey KJ?
He watching the game on FSC :D
Seems so. I say he must be injured
How much games he out for? Just this one?
suspended as a result of the red card
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Sunderland living dangerously.
Arsenal is the almost team this game. They almost score plenty times
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wey KJ?
He watching the game on FSC :D
Seems so. I say he must be injured
How much games he out for? Just this one?
suspended as a result of the red card
How much games he out for? Just this one?
I think this is last game to sit out
SHIT he have one more to sit out
it was for 3 matches
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that's a penalty
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wey KJ?
He watching the game on FSC :D
Seems so. I say he must be injured
How much games he out for? Just this one?
suspended as a result of the red card
How much games he out for? Just this one?
I think this is last game to sit out
it was for 3 matches
D Bent eatin up the goals. He on another level than KJ.
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SUnderland could have been second in the table ahd they closed off some previous games..lol
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Well deserved, Sunderland. Arsenal didn't quite show up today. But that's because Sunderland neutralize them.
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Once again,
Steve Bruce is a genius.
Bent is, by far, the best transfer of the season so far.
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who woulda beleive that after round 13 Sunderland and Liverpool go be even on pts..
ah love it !!
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Catched the last 20 mins...Sunderland looked real good! Amazing difference in this squad's play from last season to now...Reid is de general on that team boy! Congrats Sunderland :beermug:
KJ still serving his red card suspension?
-K
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Good 3 points strange game really.
As good as we were against Spuds I thought we were poor in the 1st half today sloppy, slow, too far back and stood off them. Still had a couple of chances though which Malbranque didn't make the best of. He hasn't hit anywhere near his form of last season, same with Richardson. I thought Da Silva was the stand out today Bruce has given him time to settle and gets better by the game, although he didn't have a physical presence to deal with today he had to cover for both fullbacks quite often, he looks like a good player, hope I haven't jinxed him now. Mensah didn't look fit or confident got off to a shaky start and never really recovered, makes Da Silva's performance better. Much better in the 2nd half, but not a great game. Thought Cana again did well and Zenden is a calming influence to bring on late in that situation. Henderson isn't really a CM and the game past him by for the most part today, I hope he learned a lot today.
Catched the last 20 mins...Sunderland looked real good! Amazing difference in this squad's play from last season to now...Reid is de general on that team boy! Congrats Sunderland :beermug:
KJ still serving his red card suspension?
-K
One more game to go, next week away at Wigan then he can play again, away at Fulham 6th December
wey KJ?
He watching the game on FSC :D
Seems so. I say he must be injured
How much games he out for? Just this one?
suspended as a result of the red card
How much games he out for? Just this one?
I think this is last game to sit out
it was for 3 matches
D Bent eatin up the goals. He on another level than KJ.
The big difference between Bent and Kenwyn is that Bent gets himself into a position to score, he goes when and where he thinks the ball is going to go and gets caught offside for it more often, where Kenwyne will wait until the ball is played and then move and seems to get caught on his heels, if you don't get into the danger areas in open play then you are going to score less, Kenwyne needs to gamble more.
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Kev, if Sunderland had capitalized in some earlier games this season, they would be laying a solid second in the EPL right now.
2 points against Man U, blown game against Wigan and some others....clearly second now if they had done the job!
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so against de big 3 sunderland have 7 points.wow.
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so against de big 3 sunderland have 7 points.wow.
giant killers.. ;)
but seriously they really should have been in a much better position than they are right now...
lately they've been looking like premiership material...keep it up :beermug: :beermug:
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Question is .. when KJ is available, would Bruce go back to 2 strikers? Sunlund looks very effective with Bent up front alone and Richardson in that attacking mid-field position.. :-\
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Question is .. when KJ is available, would Bruce go back to 2 strikers? Sunlund looks very effective with Bent up front alone and Richardson in that attacking mid-field position.. :-\
when KJ was there they was talking bout he and bent one of the top partnership Bruce go have to be a madman to stop that... yea but shockingly them fellas look good today well kinda cause to me from the peice of the game i saw, Arsenal was dictating play but a win is a win.
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Question is .. when KJ is available, would Bruce go back to 2 strikers? Sunlund looks very effective with Bent up front alone and Richardson in that attacking mid-field position.. :-\
He will go back to 442 I have no doubt, Bent doesn't really like the single striker role, we need to sort out the fullbacks and someone for the right side. Sorting the fullbacks will allow 442 at the minute we just haven't really got the midfield to work it properly with Cattermole out.
Its easy to get carried away, I didn't think we were that good 1st half, we played well aginst Manu, Liverpool, Spuds and deserved more, but at teh same time we didn't turn up against Birmingham, Burnley & Stoke, we got lucky with a few results with poor performances so it probably evens itself out. Black (assistant coach) was on about adding 1/2/3 1st team players in the Jan window, I hope we do, if we can keep our position until then we should have a good chance of attracting proper players. We will see over the next 2 transfer windows what the ambition of the club really is. I wil / am happy if we have a "boring" safe season and finish top half fairly easily tbh.
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we (stoke & Sunderland) fighting for that 7th spot . we pushing for europe ,
Table ...http://www.goalzz.com/main.aspx?c=4730&stage=1
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Wigan v Sunderland KO 3.00 GMT
Might struggle to find a working link this week as only on 2 channels but the usual sites are there not updated as of yet.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=56186&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
This is Kenwyne's last match of his suspension, so should be back next week at Fulham.
Bent had a hamstring problem at the end of last week, looked like missing 3/4/5 games but the noises are he is going to gamble and play him, not something I would do and it will be interesting to see if he gets through the game unscathed. Campbell to me doesn't look like a player that can lead the line and really needs to play off someome.
The other decision is around CH pairing, Mensah is available as is Da Silva and Turner. Mensah looked ring rusty / not quite fit last week, Da Silva for me was MOTM at his proper position, for me it would be a choice of 1 to partner Da Silva. Mensah needs games and have to find out if he is upto it so that would be my choice. Bruce may play both and push Da Silva to left back again.
Wigan had a nightmare last week, so I would expect them to come out all guns blazing this week and try to prove a point, we should be capable of getting something from this game, but that will depend on what happens with Bent and if the team turns up, so far in matches like this away from home they haven't more often than they have. Bruce obviously has his own point to prove returning to his former club so his has no doubt been drumming it into them all week, lets hope it works this time.
He is off scouting this weekend in Europe for the Jan sales, 3 good players would be nice.
Have a nice weekend everyone.
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Thanks for the update Kev.
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Scottie beat the keeper with the shot and hit the post . Damn :frustrated: :frustrated:
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As ah tune in Scottie come off.
Bramble make 2 clearances towards his own goal in succession lol.
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I wish I could say it was a surprise but it wasn't, a bit better 2nd half but Wigan hit the panic button a bit. Where the team hasn't turned up is Wigan, Stoke, Burnley (2nd half) Birmingham, we certainly didn't get what we deserved at Spurs but we definately did today.
Da Silva was great against Arsenal but as above I was curious how he would cope with a physical presence, he didn't look comfortable at all not helped by the fact a different partner, both him and Turner were to blame for the goal.
Boring but I will repeat it Richardson and Malbranque just don't offer enough often enough and when Reid doesn't play very well there is little to no creavity in the team. Midfield is short today we only had Zenden on the bench. The amount of times the ball was wasted or given away was criminal. Ah well Fulham next week.
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Sundeland (trinis) Stoke (yardman) Fulham (yankees) are chasing down the 7th spot .
http://www.goalzz.com/main.aspx?c=4730&stage=1
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Sundeland (trinis) Stoke (yardman) Fulham (yankees) are chasing down the 7th spot .
http://www.goalzz.com/main.aspx?c=4730&stage=1
Don't forget Liverpool :devil:
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Fulham v Sunderland KO 3.00 GMT
The game isn't live in the UK, being played today because of Fulham's involvement in Europe on Thursday. It is being carried by a few foriegn channels so maybe get a link that works. Usual links not updated as of yet.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=57247&part=sports
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://atdhe.net/
Kenwyne is doubtful with his injury, with the 2 week international break and the suspension he was out 5 weeks so Bruce thought he would give him a run out in midweek, just one of those things. I think Bruce has lost his patience with a couple of players and the teams failure to turn up at away games so makes the changes that were likely to happen anyway in Jan summer much more likely. Fulham are a solid team but it depends which Sunderland turn up which is anybodies guess, still need to sort fullbacks and wide midfield. Mensah's calf injury has returned so he is unavailable, he is only on loan but needs to get fit and stay fit as he has only played 2 games, hasn't adjusted and with his injury record to date isn't an investment I would make, he might be a good player but if you are only going to get half a season if that he is far too expensive, he is also off to the African Cup of Nations in Jan, so he will need a very good finish to the season and play week in week out for the club to make it worthwhile imho.
Have a nice weekend
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Sunderland
32 Fulop
02 Bardsley
04 Turner
05 Ferdinand
08 Malbranque
10 Richardson
16 Henderson
19 Cana
20 Reid
11 Bent
17 Jones
Substitutes
24 Carson, 06 Nosworthy, 22 Da Silva, 07 Zenden, 09 Campbell, 14 Murphy, 23 Healy
Fulham
01 Schwarzer
03 Konchesky
04 Pantsil
05 Hangeland
06 Baird
18 Hughes
16 Duff
23 Dempsey
27 Greening
10 Nevland
25 Zamora
Substitutes
19 Zuberbuhler, 26 Smalling, 07 Ki-Hyeon, 11 Gera, 13 Murphy, 17 Riise, 34 Dikgacoi
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aaapppps
ah Trini scores the first Goal :devil:
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aaapppps
ah Trini scores the first Goal :devil:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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voom kick !
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get stuck in lads !
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BATTLE of the TRINIS ;D
things picking up for Sunderland
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Am guessin Sunderland lose 1-0 on a Zamora goal ???... Did KJ look good today?
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Am guessin Sunderland lose 1-0 on a Zamora goal ???... Did KJ look good today?
Nobody looked good today. He didn't look terrible.
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Am guessin Sunderland lose 1-0 on a Zamora goal ???... Did KJ look good today?
Nobody looked good today. He didn't look terrible.
Scene thanks Gazette :beermug:
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Woeful 1st half, made Zamora look like Drogba. A little better 2nd half but truth be told that wouldn't of been hard.
The defence was woeful another 2 changes, pointless changing it every game just makes it worse.
Don't really understand the Kenwyne sub unless with so many weeks out and his injury he was feeling the pace. Some commented earlier in teh season why I wasn't over impressed with the performances despite the results, its simply because I am a great believer for the most part the performance gain you the points, although not in every case as with Spurs but we got the rub of the green against a few teams and got more than we deserved. Again Malbranque & Richardson ineffective as have been for most of the season.
Kenwyne had 2 chances one the keeper saved with his arse, was on top of him so good chance of blocking it with something the only other thing he could of done was pull it back rather than shoot, teh other was a low cross from Bardsley he failed to connect with at the near post, both never really got any service.
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Thanx Kev.. Was reading the updates, but obviously does not give u a good perspective.
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No one else notice Bobby Zamora goal 'celebration' ? As soon as he score, he turn around and start to shout 'shut the f^^k up' to someone up the other end of the field. The cameras didn't pick up which player it was directed it.
His teammates came to congratulate him, and he was still cussing and even start to push and shove Pantsil who was trying to calm him down.
Who knows if Kenwyne was teasing him at the start of the game and telling him he would never play in a WC, not for Trinidad, not for England-pure speculation, but that would have been funny. :devil:
Whichever player it was and whatever was said, it get under Zamora skin.
p.s Zamora is an ass
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Sunderland v Portsmouth KO 3.00 GMT
Plenty of EPL games this afternoon so only being carried by 2 foriegn channels so may well struggle to get a link.
Usual links not updated as of yet
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=57961&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
AS some of you will be aware I wasn't that happy the squad was left so thin at the end of the transfer window, didn't have a problem with any of the players being sold just thought it left us vulnerable to suspensions / injuries far too easily.
Not sure who / how the team is going to line up today, or how the game will pan out tbh.
Bardsley & Richardson suspended
Cattermole (starts training next week), Mensah (is he ever fit), Zenden, Ferninand, McCartney all injured.
He will have to juggle the defence as no real right back and possibly put Da Silva in as LB or a youngster (Liddle). Nosworthy maybe CH or move Cana back into CH with Turner. This would leave our midfield with no real tackler at all and he will have to bring in Murphy. (god I didn't think/hoped I would have to type that ever again) That will leave no real midfielder / defender on the bench.
A couple of youngsters will be in the squad he is bringing in a forward from the U18's / Reserves called Noble who is only 17 on the bench, he has scored 32 goals in 23 games this season for the U18's / Reserves and that takes some doing, be interesting to see him if he gets on for a few minutes, by his picture he is physically still very much a bairn.
Have a nice weekend
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aye Kev, thanks for the info, but has Noseworthy played much this season?
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Gave away 2 points to a very poor side today with an inability to defend and just playing too deep ala last season. As I said above with the team didn't expect a great deal but should of seen out teh match easily. Bruce's subs I find strange, Kenwyne taken off with an injury? and replaced by Murphy (FFS :o) and Bent with Malbranque. Kenwyne played quite well had a chance missed the target a couple of other half chances control let him down.
aye Kev, thanks for the info, but has Noseworthy played much this season?
Hasn't really played this season, strangely brought on last week when Ferninand was injured in preference to Da Silva, which again baffled me and didn't play particularly well. Was RB today and had a decent game, but he is what he is and hoped not to see him in the defence again tbh.
Next game Villa on Tuesday night, just have to see what was up with Kenwyne.
On another note this was in the paper today, probably explains why Bruce keeps trying to gee him up through the papers, been done to death on here but thought I would include it.
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STEVE Bruce has admitted he can not work out how to motivate Kenwyne Jones even though he knows Sunderland are a far better team with the striker than without.
Whether Jones has a long term future at the Stadium of Light is open to question given the importance Bruce attaches to putting a squad together made up of players with the right mental attitude.
But he is clever enough to realise he can not afford to lose the Trinidad and Tobago international at this stage of his Sunderland project. Jones is as laid back as they come and it seems as though his new manager is struggling to work out how to get the best from him on a consistent basis. However, that is one of the main challenges of football management and Bruce recognises it is up to him to ensure Jones rediscovers his best form.
He said: “Do I sense a hunger in Kenwyne? Kenwyne and hunger don’t really seem to go together. Kenwyne and laid back go together.
“How do you give that hunger to a player? It’s very difficult. You are born with it, that’s for sure. I know for a fact we are a better team with Kenwyne in.
“He is the perfect foil for Benty and we are more of a goal threat when he plays up there. I expect him to be fresh, but raring to go and give us that threat we had before we got suspended. If you look at the stats and the figures we are better with him than without him.
“Kenwyne is disappointed with himself, that’s for sure. To be fair, he took his punishment like a man. He’s been missing for five or six weeks and he needed that game at Fulham. I’m hoping he’ll come in and spark the team again
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Sunderland v Villa KO 7.45 GMT
Being carried by a few foriegn channels so might get a working link.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=57965&part=sports
http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch6.html
http://atdhe.net/11016/watch-sunderland-vs-aston-villa
http://www.p2p4u.net/
Kenwyne should be OK to play, Richardson & Bardsley back from suspension.
Don't know whats going to happen tonight, Villa are a side where we have not had any luck (especially decisions) since back in the prem. Would settle for a draw and a half decent performance tbh.
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i looking for sunland to do the job and take some points from aston villa.
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Its seems atleast 4 teams closing in on the 7th spot , which qualifies for europe .
Liverpool,fulham,sunderland, stoke . stoke is a creepy team they can edge out
sunderland ,liverpool and fulham by a single point and a negative
goal difference .u see di sunderland team cant pull away from stoke.
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i looking for sunland to do the job and take some points from aston villa.
It was the other way around. Maybe next time, maybe...
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The game was OK tbf, looked an open game could of went either way until Villa scored then there was only going to be 1 winner, sad to say schoolboy defending again. Cattermole came on 2nd half good to see him back, Cana got sent off (2 yellows) so is now suspended, the only surprise is that it has taken him so long.
Kenwyne played like Kenwyne.
Next game Man City away, another team like Villa we never get the decision or had any luck with so not expecting anything. I really hope Bruce buys a couple of players in Jan because we are short.
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The game was OK tbf, looked an open game could of went either way until Villa scored then there was only going to be 1 winner, sad to say schoolboy defending again. Cattermole came on 2nd half good to see him back, Cana got sent off (2 yellows) so is now suspended, the only surprise is that it has taken him so long.
Kenwyne played like Kenwyne.
Next game Man City away, another team like Villa we never get the decision or had any luck with so not expecting anything. I really hope Bruce buys a couple of players in Jan because we are short.
4 words, a world of meaning...
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Man City v Sunderland KO 3.00 GMT
Carried by a few foriegn channels so a sporting chance of getting a link, following not updated yet as usual.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=58867&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://www.p2p4u.net/
Turner looks very doubtful, no big deal to me as he has looked average, but yet another different back 4, same every week.
As mentioned previously, never had any luck with City especially decisions, so don't expect anything. I think Bruce is losing patience very quickly.
Have a nice weekend everybody.
As this is the last game before Christmas, I hope you all have a happy Christmas and wish you and your famalies all the best for a happy and safe New Year / 2010. Please remember be good, if you can't be good be careful, if you can do neither just blame it on the Rum / Wacky Baccy.
PS still waiting for that fat bar steward in a red coat to bring me the players I wanted last year, hope he remembers this year, but I've been naughty (again) ;)
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Game's being shown on FSC here in the US... 10 am DST.
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playing on Sports Net here in the Great White North
kick off is imminent ;)
Grog goin an score ah penalty to make it 2-0 now :D
(http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/cartoon/images/miscellaneous/bc-grog.JPG)
appps........goal by Mensah 2-1
nice.....equalisation by henderson
:waiting: orrite Bruce bring on KJ ;)
right...KJ is on
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Was going to say the way the defence is hitting panic stations and can't cope with anything in the air, he should move back to 442 and bring Kenwyne on, if he can jump.
Don't think it was a penalty, this could end up 6-6 the way its going.
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Was going to say the way the defence is hitting panic stations and can't cope with anything in the air, he should move back to 442 and bring Kenwyne on, if he can jump.
Don't think it was a penalty, this could end up 6-6 the way its going.
definetly not a penalty
both over ran the ball and stopped to go back and bellamy fell
should have been another red for bellamy :devil:
and now SW-P wid he divin ::)
talkin bout divin ;D
KJ SCORES a divin header :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: 3-3
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KJ !!!!!!!
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De man wine on de post in his goal celebration yes. ;D Well done KJ!
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dem linesmen KNOW what de FORK offside is
take ah small listen
http://www.zshare.net/audio/69011728d3d61274/
:devil:
hear nuh....who de arse is dis referee
commentators sayin he is controversial
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the season started out so well, men was even starting to talk going to Europe...
now 5 pts from the drop zone.... ::)
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All the game told us was how bad our and City's defence is.
A few posts up I mentioned the games coming up and decision, don't think it was a penalty or sending off personally.
Next week Everton, again never get anything.
Once again have a nice Xmas
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Jones only have 6 goals. Come on KJ I looking for you looking for you in the top 5 man.
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PREMIER LEAGUE NEWS
Sunderland officially appeal Turner sending off
December 22, 2009
Soccernet.com
Sunderland have appealed against the red card handed out to Michael Turner at Manchester City on Saturday.
Turner was dismissed after catching Gareth Barry in the face with an elbow during an aerial duel in the latter stages of the Black Cats 4-3 defeat.
Manager Steve Bruce branded Andre Marriner's decision as ''a joke'' and indicated Sunderland would challenge the punishment, which if confirmed, would bring an automatic three-match ban.
The FA have confirmed the appeal has been lodged and the case will now be assessed to decide whether Turner has a case.
Not that Bruce was holding out much hope in the immediate aftermath of the incident, having revealed he complained about Marriner's performance during a recent encounter with West Ham, when the West Midlands official sent off Kenwyne Jones.
''Because I have complained about him, I get that decision,'' outlined Bruce. ''I hope he can have a look at it and he can see it was a shuddering challenge between two of the most honest professionals you are going to get.
''Michael Turner got higher. That is the only reason he has caught Gareth Barry. You have got to raise your elbows when you are jumping for a ball. I might as well tell my centre-half not to head it next week because he might sent off.
''I hope the referee looks at it again. I doubt it though.''
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The appeal got rejected and he got an extra game for a frivilous appeal so now banned for 4 matches.
Personally didn't think it was a sending off offence myself.
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The appeal got rejected and he got an extra game for a frivilous appeal so now banned for 4 matches.
Personally didn't think it was a sending off offence myself.
That's crazy. Even if the appeal was rejected, the grounds were far from frivolous.
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RIP ........... to this thread
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The appeal got rejected and he got an extra game for a frivilous appeal so now banned for 4 matches.
Personally didn't think it was a sending off offence myself.
That's the english get-stuck-in-lads mentality in you speaking.
If that was not a sending off offence I don't know what is.
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The appeal got rejected and he got an extra game for a frivilous appeal so now banned for 4 matches.
Personally didn't think it was a sending off offence myself.
That's the english get-stuck-in-lads mentality in you speaking.
If that was not a sending off offence I don't know what is.
He never took his eyes off the ball, no delibrate movement of the elbow towards the player, if thats your idea of a sending off then there won't be many CH's left on the pitch at the end of games, happens in many games week in week out.
RIP ........... to this thread
Never getting off that easy 8)
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I thought that the turner decision would have been an easy one to overturn, but i guess i was wrong.
The fact that they added another game tothe ban can only serve to add coals to the fire that the FA favour certain clubs. What happened with Turner was not even a sending off!!
ah cyar love shit!!
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That might be the best cross a Trini ever put into the box.
Sublime!
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KJ just doe make much happen...yes he made ah good cross but he doesnt create much..
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see what ah mean....he defending poor on Fellaini....real POOR marking in d box...
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see what ah mean....he defending poor on Fellaini....real POOR marking in d box...
I am almost positive that Fellaini was KJ's assignment on that cross.
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I am almost positive that Fellaini was KJ's assignment on that cross.
Agreed....I think Bruce losing patience....even though he sees KJ's potential
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The match up between then was actually one of the more interesting battles in this match.
It was a fair result though, after their goal Sunderland was playing kick and hope.
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I am almost positive that Fellaini was KJ's assignment on that cross.
Agreed....I think Bruce losing patience....even though he sees KJ's potential
You think so based on him playing the full 90 minutes and setting up the goal?
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The match up between then was actually one of the more interesting battles in this match.
It was a fair result though, after their goal Sunderland was playing kick and hope.
Fellaini is ah handful... real nice touches although his gangliness makes him look awkward at times. As the commentator said though, and to your point... that Everton goal was always coming.
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You think so based on him playing the full 90 minutes and setting up the goal?
Yuh have ah point ..but we goe know where Brucie really stand in d January transfer window...
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now watch the highlights..
allyuh really on Kenwyne case for that?
better question is where were the central defenders whose job it was to cover that area of the box?
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now watch the highlights..
allyuh really on Kenwyne case for that?
better question is where were the central defenders whose job it was to cover that area of the box?
If you'd watched the actual match you'd see that KJ and Fellaini were man-marking each other on crosses in the box the entire game... as opposed to mythical "central defenders" zonal marking areas of the box.
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Sorry lads wasn't on line this morning.
Same as Man City match really, 2 teams couldn't defend, suprised it took them so long to score and it was only 1-1, awful defending.
Both Bent and Kenwyne missed decent chances in teh first 10 minutes, Kenwyne for some reason let a ball bounce on him and then went in with a high foot, and Bent missed a fairly easy heade from about 10 yards by about 10 yards, one of those things that you wish the chances had gone to the players the other way around.
FAO dinho
You want to see what a sending off looks like have a look at Cahill's elbow on Mensah. he stood took a look at Mensah waited for him and swung the elbow, everything about it was delibrate yet got a yellow card, everything that Turner didn't do last week.
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Sorry lads wasn't on line this morning.
Same as Man City match really, 2 teams couldn't defend, suprised it took them so long to score and it was only 1-1, awful defending.
Both Bent and Kenwyne missed decent chances in teh first 10 minutes, Kenwyne for some reason let a ball bounce on him and then went in with a high foot, and Bent missed a fairly easy heade from about 10 yards by about 10 yards, one of those things that you wish the chances had gone to the players the other way around.
FAO dinho
You want to see what a sending off looks like have a look at Cahill's elbow on Mensah. he stood took a look at Mensah waited for him and swung the elbow, everything about it was delibrate yet got a yellow card, everything that Turner didn't do last week.
i didnt see that incident, and the way you described it i wouldn't doubt that was deserving of a red card.
But regardless of whether you think Turner's was intentional or not, the rules are very clear on this. You cannot jump in for a header with raised elbows. It is extremely dangerous and it is a clear red card offence.
This is not to suggest that you don't see alot of defenders doing it to get elevation, but still where there is contact like what happened with G. Barry, the referee has little option.
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Sunderland look and play like the TnT national side - Pure shit. Horrible decisions on the ball, no midfield. Ive seen better standard of play in MLS.
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Sunderland look and play like the TnT national side - Pure shit. Horrible decisions on the ball, no midfield. Ive seen better standard of play in MLS.
I real like Henderson and Reid though. Forget KJ, any re-building on this team needs to be done around those two.
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Sorry lads wasn't on line this morning.
Same as Man City match really, 2 teams couldn't defend, suprised it took them so long to score and it was only 1-1, awful defending.
Both Bent and Kenwyne missed decent chances in teh first 10 minutes, Kenwyne for some reason let a ball bounce on him and then went in with a high foot, and Bent missed a fairly easy heade from about 10 yards by about 10 yards, one of those things that you wish the chances had gone to the players the other way around.
FAO dinho
You want to see what a sending off looks like have a look at Cahill's elbow on Mensah. he stood took a look at Mensah waited for him and swung the elbow, everything about it was delibrate yet got a yellow card, everything that Turner didn't do last week.
i didnt see that incident, and the way you described it i wouldn't doubt that was deserving of a red card.
But regardless of whether you think Turner's was intentional or not, the rules are very clear on this. You cannot jump in for a header with raised elbows. It is extremely dangerous and it is a clear red card offence.
This is not to suggest that you don't see alot of defenders doing it to get elevation, but still where there is contact like what happened with G. Barry, the referee has little option.
Have to agree to disagree on this, my simple reasoning behind it wasn't a red card was that Turner was way above Barry in the incident, you have to use your arms to jump (strangely includes the elbow), there was no look from Turner to see where Barry was and there was no real (intentional or not) movement of his arm/elbow towards Barry either. If Barry had of got to roughly the same height as Turner his arm would be on Barry's chest, still a sending off. The pundits mostly ex players almost to a man say it was no sending off and can't believe the extra game ban for a "Frivilous Appeal". Sunderland look and play like the TnT national side - Pure shit. Horrible decisions on the ball, no midfield. Ive seen better standard of play in MLS.
I real like Henderson and Reid though. Forget KJ, any re-building on this team needs to be done around those two.
Be careful BNS he was the reason Bruce let Carlos go, I think he is a good player in the making but not as a CM where BRuce has been playing him due to injury of Cattermole (again), he is also making the mistake of using him too much due to the same circumstances, needs to be out wide just lacks that very quick pace.
Sunderland look and play like the TnT national side - Pure shit. Horrible decisions on the ball, no midfield. Ive seen better standard of play in MLS.
Missing Cattermole and need a 2 wide players, Henderson is only a kid and needs bringing on properly, the problem is the defence, if you watch the games teh RB gets very little cover usually from Malbranque, the LB (McCartney) just hides in the box leaving Reid to cover out there most of the time, they all drop back too far so when they get the ball back it usually has to be hoofed to either Bent or Kenwyne. The players available actually suit either 451 or 1441 better than 442 but will still be tata(?) at defending, the team is going nowhere until the defence is sorted, Mensah hasn't really played due to injury and is now missing January for ACON. As a priority the team really needs a LB, CH and WM, we only have 2 real CM's at the club Cattermole & Cana the others are nuisance value only. Its fairly obvious with teh run of results lately they lack any real belief or confidence imho.
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Blackburn v Sunderland 3.00 GMT KO
A few channels are showing it so maybe unlucky and get a link that works, not updated yet.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=59552&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/11321/watch-blackburn-vs-sunderland
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://www.p2p4u.net/
Kenwyne is a doubt with an injury, as too is Cattermole, Mensah and Richardson. Turner still suspended, Ferninand injured makes interesting reading for a back 4, oh dear.
The good news is that given so many forced changes the team might actually turn up, but I have my doubts. Don't really expect anything tbh, but in reality should do. Role on transfer window and hope we actually spend some money this Jan.
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A real skeleton squad playing this game. Meyler?
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Wasn't expecting Reid missing, forgot about Malbranque being injured. Can't defend don't expect anything so a point against a poor Blackburn better than nothing.
A real skeleton squad playing this game. Meyler?
He is just a kid, bought from Ireland about a year / 18 months ago, was in preseason squad but did his knee so hasn't been long back. He got a late start in football aswell but tahts what teh squad is down to at the minute, to give him a chance should really be bringing palyers such as him on with a strong team beside him rather than the current situation, especially as a CM, thought he done OK but hard to tell really.
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Wasn't expecting Reid missing, forgot about Malbranque being injured. Can't defend don't expect anything so a point against a poor Blackburn better than nothing.
A real skeleton squad playing this game. Meyler?
He is just a kid, bought from Ireland about a year / 18 months ago, was in preseason squad but did his knee so hasn't been long back. He got a late start in football aswell but tahts what teh squad is down to at the minute, to give him a chance should really be bringing palyers such as him on with a strong team beside him rather than the current situation, especially as a CM, thought he done OK but hard to tell really.
I remember him being bought as "one for the future" and I've heard his name associated with reserve games. Just surprised to see him starting. First team squad has gone from too big to too thin. Especially in midfield.
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Wasn't expecting Reid missing, forgot about Malbranque being injured. Can't defend don't expect anything so a point against a poor Blackburn better than nothing.
A real skeleton squad playing this game. Meyler?
He is just a kid, bought from Ireland about a year / 18 months ago, was in preseason squad but did his knee so hasn't been long back. He got a late start in football aswell but tahts what teh squad is down to at the minute, to give him a chance should really be bringing palyers such as him on with a strong team beside him rather than the current situation, especially as a CM, thought he done OK but hard to tell really.
I remember him being bought as "one for the future" and I've heard his name associated with reserve games. Just surprised to see him starting. First team squad has gone from too big to too thin. Especially in midfield.
Aye your right.
Started again today with Henderson as his partner in CM, again looked OK needs developing properly. Reid will be missing for most of Jan as will Cattermole, Richardson uncle Tom etc.
Poor game today hard to tell who was the non league team at times tbh ::)
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OK Blue Man Group
Bring it ON ;D
Saturday, 16 January 2010
Chelsea v Sunderland, 15:00
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Chelsea v Sunderland KO 3.00 GMT.
Kenwyne looks like he may make it back for this one, in another makeshift team and no new signings yet.
On plenty of channels so a good bet for a working link, as normal not updated as of yet.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=61599&part=sports
http://www.p2p4u.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://atdhe.net/
Have a nice weekend
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23 minute
chel 3 - sund 0
when Ashley Cole scoring, is a long night for sunderland
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23 minute
chel 3 - sund 0
when Ashley Cole scoring, is a long night for sunderland
Long night !!!! yuh mean good night.
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come on fellas
get at least one
damn 4-0
poor sunny just watchin
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to be fair, they are playing a very, very big team.
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Not surprised tbh.
CM at CH
A midfield of 2 kids playing CM's 1 isn't a CM (Henderson) the other (Meyler) its his 3rd game or so and sitting either side Malbranque & Murphy who can't tackle in Malbranques case and won't in Murphy's.
Bardsley getting no help from Malbranque and McCartney has been awful all season and most of last paired with Murphy on teh other side.
On the bench Zenden a keeper and another bunch of kids so no change there.
You might get away with it at a middle/bottom half side you are never going to get away with it at Chelsea,Arsenal Manu etc
As I said on the Kenwyne thread Bruce is looking increasing desperate. Supposed to be sign Cabanas over the weekend, cannot for the life of me understand why we haven't already signed FB and CH.
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Sunderland doh look like they gone score today, might be a 7-0 thrashing jeez and thats if chelsea feel sorry for them. I just wish KJ could score some damn goals all this talk bout inconsistency tired of it.
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This is the biggest gulf in quality between two teams that i have seen in a really long time.
Sunderland defensively are absolutely woeful
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All those "shit" squad players the fans were eager to get rid of would certainly have come in handy on days like this. I'd certainly prefer a Collins or Higginbotham in defence to Cana. And I'm positive Whitehead or Leadbitter would be offering more in the middle than Meyler.
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regardless of whoever he playing for, if Jones going to play that position, and going to track 50/50 passes, the coach better teach him how to defend himself during the course of play, cause it seems like he don't know how....No defenders should be getting away with repeatedly bouncing your man of the ball , without thinking twice if he should take the chance and step in close....I thought he would be there by now.....and kev, based on what you said above, and what I observed previously, I know Bruce is a poor manager(don't know how to pick- proved with SJ), but like he can't coach/teach either..
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well he eh get a goal but a assist go do for now.
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Sunderland's goal is a prime example of what Kenwyne can give you if it had men who could put the government ball where it need to be put...
Bent eh exactly acquitting heself in this game either..
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So....6-1, crap....anyhow, if you know that this team is missing some key players why not play a 4-5-1: at least the 2 youths who starting in mid-field would have got some cover....at least!!
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So....6-1, crap....anyhow, if you know that this team is missing some key players why not play a 4-5-1: at least the 2 youths who starting in mid-field would have got some cover....at least!!
Zenden should've been on from the start. He might not have the legs anymore, but he could've most likely played the role Dwight used to. Me eh no EPL manager, though.
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7 goals to 2....one commentator said this does not look like a Premier League score line..
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Sunderland's goal is a prime example of what Kenwyne can give you if it had men who could put the government ball where it need to be put...
Bent eh exactly acquitting heself in this game either..
Bent still get a goal he just be at the right spots.
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More Importantly...
This team is now 5 points from relegation...
a far cry from early in the season when things was moving smooth, 4 place was not impossible and the Europe talk was continously popping up..
food for taught
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Lucky to get away with that scoreline today.
Felt sorry for the young kid Meyler in particular, shouldn't of been put in that position so early in his career against those players with the players around him, I hoped he learned a lot today.
maxg if you look back I called the Bruce appointment uninspired I think he is an average manager tbh, Kenwyne has for the last year just stood and let players jump all over him, I don't understand it myself tbh. I have been critical of Bruce, we are racked with injuries and never stood a chance but he got it wrong again today (not the 1st time) given the players he had available and who the opposition was as soon as I seen the team I could see nothing more than a good old tonking coming. Bruce choose to sell players which I didn't have a problem with tbh, I did however have big concerns about not brining in replacements, but what do I know I am not a qualified coach. Even with teh players back from injury there are only a couple I would keep in the team tbh.
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Lucky to get away with that scoreline today.
Felt sorry for the young kid Meyler in particular, shouldn't of been put in that position so early in his career against those players with the players around him, I hoped he learned a lot today.
maxg if you look back I called the Bruce appointment uninspired I think he is an average manager tbh, Kenwyne has for the last year just stood and let players jump all over him, I don't understand it myself tbh. I have been critical of Bruce, we are racked with injuries and never stood a chance but he got it wrong again today (not the 1st time) given the players he had available and who the opposition was as soon as I seen the team I could see nothing more than a good old tonking coming. Bruce choose to sell players which I didn't have a problem with tbh, I did however have big concerns about not brining in replacements, but what do I know I am not a qualified coach. Even with teh players back from injury there are only a couple I would keep in the team tbh.
you put it to nicely, Bruce is ah rank shithong, take it from one who didn't even like him as a player, doh he was a better player than a manager, yet those playing days, I was dreaming to get a chance to go against him and prove, and got hurt just before I did...As a manager, ah say ok, new leaf, give a chance, but is when he start bouncing my players is when I really started watching him, and now, I'm certain, is not like it's the 1st time we playing Chelsea, is not like no one else has shown where the defiencies are repeatedly over the last couple weeks, so what he do...somehow, he manage to further weaken those areas...on KJ - since with Keene, KJ is getting the same service, losing the same balls, getting the same shots, and scoring the same goals, others teams recognize and adjusted....and Bruce have the man, still making the same runs, feeding at the same trough, and the predators keep eating him up at the same waterhole, week in, week out...next week, same service, same runs, same defensive strategy,same offensive startegy, wheter is ManU or Bolton, Sunderland playing, no matter who Bruce pick...well it doh have enuff Beach balls on the field to help Sunderland win.....The man is, like quite a few others,using his ManU rep to get management job, posturing right, talking a good game, as many players, fans and both dotish and knowledable ppl do, the difference is the knowledgable learn and adjust to achieve and maintain successes, the dotish(or mad) continue with the same behavior....meanwhile everyone saying nah, it cyah be he, he was a big no nonsense this, and take no prisoners that...it must be them guys who not listening to him....For KJs' sake I wish Quinn trades him, and I hope you as a fan stay with socawarriors.net too...yet the sooner KJ move away from Bruce(observed after that SJ fiasco), the better my nerves....ok ah don rant , sorry...i'm ok now :devil:
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Niall Quinn was on Goals on Sunday this morning.
Basically he is sure the club will finish top half of EPL, in my view only with 3/4 additions.
Interestly on the Turner ban the club recieved the refs assessors report the same day as the hearing, the report said the challenge meritted a yellow card and not a red, yet still got an extra match for a "frilivous appeal" he was far from happy about it.
I'm not drunk enough to understand how the FA works. ???
Being linked with an Eyptian and still Cabanas, he said if any players that are wanted the club will do everything to help out. For those that don't know about Quinny he tends to be a very much glass is full kind of man even when there is only a sip left, so it has to be taken in that context as he always puts a positive spin on everything.
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Sunderland are awful. I was beginning to think it was KJ not producing but he gets zero service. He's wasting on that club. Come on Rafa, snap him up to save your ass!
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Sunderland are awful. I was beginning to think it was KJ not producing but he gets zero service. He's wasting on that club. Come on Rafa, snap him up to save your ass!
Take it you don't watch the games, let me guess plastic manc
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Sunderland are awful. I was beginning to think it was KJ not producing but he gets zero service. He's wasting on that club. Come on Rafa, snap him up to save your ass!
Take it you don't watch the games, let me guess plastic manc
I Watch them whenever theyre on tv, and always catch motd.
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Sunderland are awful. I was beginning to think it was KJ not producing but he gets zero service. He's wasting on that club. Come on Rafa, snap him up to save your ass!
Take it you don't watch the games, let me guess plastic manc
I Watch them whenever theyre on tv, and always catch motd.
Ooh 3 times a season and the whole 15 seconds on MOTD, must be a good judge
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Sunderland are awful. I was beginning to think it was KJ not producing but he gets zero service. He's wasting on that club. Come on Rafa, snap him up to save your ass!
Take it you don't watch the games, let me guess plastic manc
I Watch them whenever theyre on tv, and always catch motd.
Ooh 3 times a season and the whole 15 seconds on MOTD, must be a good judge
Bit of an exaggeration there huh? Anyway, Ive seen enough games to know they are a shit side with no defense and little support to the forwards.
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Sunderland target reportedly shot in the head.
Goal.com
Paraguayan International Salvador Cabanas Shot In Mexico City
According to several reports from Mexico, Paraguayan international Salvador Cabanas has been shot in the head after visiting a bar in Mexico City with some of his friends and relatives.
The incident reportedly took place at 5.30 PM local time. Cabanas got involved in a bar-fight which eventually culminated in a shoot-out in the bathroom area of the bar.
The 29-year-old was immediately rushed to Los Angeles hospital by ambulance. It is not yet known how serious the injuries are, but the report suggests that Cabanas' condition is critical and that the Paraguay star is fighting for his life.
America president Michel Bauer stated that Cabanas was conscious until he was given anaesthesia ahead of the operation. The bullet is reportedly still inside the player's head. Furthermore, Bauer categorically denied rumours that Cabanas is actually brain dead.
According to official information from the attorney general of Mexico City, Miguel Angel Mancera, two people were arrested after the shooting.
Cabanas currently plies his trade at Mexican outfit America and is an integral part of Paraguay's national side.
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Just put that on Kenwyne thread FB
Sunderland are awful. I was beginning to think it was KJ not producing but he gets zero service. He's wasting on that club. Come on Rafa, snap him up to save your ass!
Take it you don't watch the games, let me guess plastic manc
I Watch them whenever theyre on tv, and always catch motd.
Ooh 3 times a season and the whole 15 seconds on MOTD, must be a good judge
Bit of an exaggeration there huh? Anyway, Ive seen enough games to know they are a shit side with no defense and little support to the forwards.
Not really, Bent seems to do OK with no support or service, plastic Manc?
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Bent does OK because he is a very good player and a recipient of KJ's work up-front, huh asshole?
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Bent does OK because he is a very good player and a recipient of KJ's work up-front, huh asshole?
Oh Dear ::) Best you can do :rotfl:
Plastic Manc?
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Oh Dear, go have another cup of tea watching your shit side
plastic Cnt
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Oh Dear, go have another cup of tea watching your shit side
plastic Cnt
Tut Tut Tut, Ah poor bairn.
I will continue to watch my shit side as I have for many years, I'm used to it now, makes no odds to me, but I know what I am watching, unlike you given your comments, I suspect if you had a clue you would be dangerous.
So you are a plastic Manc, how sad!
I'm not going to bother anymore its too easy, just quit while your behind like a good little boy, on the ignore list.
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oh gorm...2 ah allyuh ease up nah...
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What is a plastic Manc?
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Everton v Sunderland KO 8.00 PM GMT
Its on Sky so should be plenty of links, some not updated yet.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=61616&part=sports
http://www.p2p4u.net/
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/epl1.html
Its Everton, never get anything so no change tonight.
Turner and Bardsley are injured, Cattermole, Reid should return and Kilgannon new signing looks like playing (haven't a clue what he is like tbh), some doubt over Da Silva because he is good mates with Cabanas apparently.
Bruce is going on about not playing Kenwyne because being "unsettled" the article is on the other thread so no point. As I have said before Bruce seems to have been at Kenwyne all season off and on, from very early on with his head's not been right comment. I think its obvious to everyone that Kenwyne is going if not this window then the summer. It will be interesting to see how he does the rest of the season, will he just plod along or try to make teh best of it and secure the best move he can by playing well, don't know him so haven't a clue about his mentality.
oh gorm...2 ah allyuh ease up nah...
aye your right as usual
What is a plastic Manc?
Someone that follows a team Manu, Arsenal, Chelsea because its fashionable easy and win things (have been known to change) and usually clueless about football.
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Boi
look pressure for KJ now
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Everton never had to get out of 1st gear as expected.
Quite a funny bit tonight, Kenwyne had a wayward shot the Everton fans started singing "Sign him up Rafa", in response the Sunderland fans sang the same. I don't go to away games anymore (used to go to them all) and the away support is fiercely loyal, even if the chant is in jest it shows signs the fans are starting to doubt him.
Bruce hasn't handled this situation at all well, but it has also come at a good time for him as it deflects attention, at the minute he looks completely lost as mentioned before weird decisions, lame excuses, ill prepared team/tactics, my twopenneth anyway.
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Black Cats in Benjani talks
SkySports.com
Striker set for Stadium of Light move
Sky Sports News understands Sunderland are in talks to sign Manchester City striker Benjani.
Benjani's future at City has been the subject of speculation for the last few weeks with a number of clubs credited with an interest in the Zimbabwe international.
The 31-year-old has found himself back in favour at City since the appointment of Roberto Mancini, but he is well down the pecking order when everyone is available at Eastlands.
West Ham were believed to be close to signing the former Portsmouth man, but they have ended their interest in Benjani.
Sunderland have now jumped to the head of the queue for Benjani with the player understood to be on Wearside for talks.
If Benjani joins Sunderland it is sure to fuel speculation that Kenwyne Jones could be on his way out of the Stadium of Light with Liverpool holding an interest in the player.
City boss Roberto Mancini revealed Benjani will make the final decision on whether or not he stays or goes.
"I spoke with him two days ago and he told me he had a possibility to go and play," said Mancini.
"We have a lot of strikers but it is up to him to decide.
"If he wants to stay here I will be happy. He is a good player and a good man."
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Benjani = Headless Chicken (sorry there doesn't seem to be a smiley for it)
Bruce is hitting the panic button.
He has banked for 2 transfer windows in a row in getting Figueroa (sp) to sort the LB problem out and today he signs a new contract with Wigan, I don't thing they even bothered scouting / sounding out another 1 :banginghead:
My initial thoughts on Bruce was an uninspired / average appointment, was happy to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he seems to be going out of his way to prove my original thinking correct.
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Benjani = Headless Chicken
Good news for the "Jones is lazy" crowd.
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Robbie Keane to Sunderland for £9m has been rumoured...less than 24 hours to go to get it done... :beermug:
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Put it in Kenwyne thread not going to happen according to some the report is way off the mark.
A big rumour Benjani has failed medical
According to SSN
We have signed the egyptian RB we had on trial in the summer, but wanted on loan, haven't really watched ACON so know nothing about the lad, but stories come out all the time from egypt about players signing / about to sign for clubs that the clubs know nothing about.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11695_5907725,00.html
According to SSN we are also speaking to Alan Hutton & Tyrone Mears so thats 3 RB's supposedly in talks, I know hedging your bets but tahts just silly, so your guess is as good as mine as to whats really going on.
Striker rumour is know Beattie from Stoke, if true Bruce is getting desperate a stop gap panic measure if I ever seen one (same as Mears). I suspect its a further sign of how poor Kenwyne and Bruce relationship is, looking from the outside anyway.
Bruce keeps going on about defenders and how short we are, not mentioned midfield where we are equally short in numbers and creativity.
Tonights match Sunderland v Stoke KO 8.00 PM GMT
Possible Links
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=61626&part=sports
http://www.p2p4u.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://atdhe.net/
Cold possibly wet and windy night 2 poor teams should be paying me to go. Haven't a clue on what to expect, give in trying to 2nd guess Bruce this and the following 2 games is crunch time if we lose them we are in deep tata (been here too long going local) and Bruce will lose most of the crowd.
Don't whinge to me if you watch it, you've been warned :devil:
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Well, KJ is still there with you guys, so I guess we'll (you and the sw.net crew) be arguing about Sunderland for the rest of the season.
To be fair to Bruce, the quality of play has improved, but teams figure you out. See Man U figuring out that Arsenal has no center forward without van persie and if you shut down Fabregas, you've shut them down.
In a similar fashion, if you cut off service to Bent, he can't kill you (except for the odd set piece). I would agree with you that an upgrade in the midfield was probably needed. Based on what I've seen they might benefit from having KJ move wide to supply bent with those great crosses. Whatever, I'm no EPL manager, Bruce has a track record.
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Anybody watching this game vs Stoke. Them defenders wrestling KJ and the ref (Howard Webb) eh doing nothing. Blatantly holding down KJ. I want to see what anyone have to say about this.
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KJ will get a card just now
Them defenders pulling and holding, ref eh calling nothing, he will buss ah elbow on somebody just now. And then webb will find he whistle and cards.
A small note for Sunderland defense/Mids: It's called a pass. That means the ball goes to a person, not just a hoof up the field in the general direction of the other goal.
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HOward Webb having a shocking game and calling against Sunderland. That was a red card on Whitehead.
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You hadda draw blood apparently... I mean, he allowing the lads to get stuck in.
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Sunderland dont need new strikers, they need a team that can knock good ball. I watchin this Sunderland vs Stoke game now, and that first half. Jah.
Sunderland is a premier league team?
Plenty long inaccurate balls and Jones and Bent chasin them.
They are just a poor team. Good players.
Poor team.
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i find is really a testament to men love for trinidad football that men would bun dey eye to watch the joga bonito that is Sunderland v Stoke on a Monday afternoon..
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The studio men describe the first half appropriately "it was like 2 drunks fighting in an allyey, lots of punches and movement, but nothing happening really"
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The Linesman not blind, he fall asleep from boredom.
Is 1 good cross too much to ask? wow.
BTW Jefferz it have internet in the arctic? You ent post in so long you hadda be on a expedition somewhere cold.
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This game shows how important KJ is to Sunderland. Sunderland midfield is shyte, not creative and technically poor, plus they lacking fitness.
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This game shows how important KJ is to Sunderland. Sunderland midfield is shyte, not creative and technically poor, plus they lacking fitness.
That's the best thing yuh ever said! that midfield iz pure laborers except reid. imagine ah prem team wid no width. just pure lobbed ball down the pike. lord what ah horrid midfield!
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a picture for the bbc site
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47225000/jpg/_47225683_jones_getty.jpg)
Jones is one of the few players in action to display any form but he remains frustrated as the disappointing encounter continues to serve up very little entertainment
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This game shows how important KJ is to Sunderland. Sunderland midfield is shyte, not creative and technically poor, plus they lacking fitness.
they also have no structure. is like d coach jes tell men to go out on d field an play in watever position yuh feel like.
i find is really a testament to men love for trinidad football that men would bun dey eye to watch the joga bonito that is Sunderland v Stoke on a Monday afternoon..
a vex ah waste muh 90 mins >:(
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what about Roy Keane down in Ipswich?
when he was coaching Sunderland he pull Man Utd rejects like Bardsley, Richardson and Evans..
now he at Ipswich he pulling Sunderland rejects like Carlos, Murphy and Healy..
he doh know about the word scout?
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Don't say you weren't warned ;D
I've said a few times Bruce looks lost the last few weeks and it was no surprise at all last night, very similar to last season didn't want to lose, hoof the ball to Kenwyne or Bent and hope, everybody else stay back.
On the plus side Kenwyne seemed to want to prove a point so if he keeps it up for the rest of the season he should get a decent move. I think the Stoke defence could of hit him with a baseball bat last night and we still wouldn't of got a penalty.
Well, KJ is still there with you guys, so I guess we'll (you and the sw.net crew) be arguing about Sunderland for the rest of the season.
To be fair to Bruce, the quality of play has improved, but teams figure you out. See Man U figuring out that Arsenal has no center forward without van persie and if you shut down Fabregas, you've shut them down.
In a similar fashion, if you cut off service to Bent, he can't kill you (except for the odd set piece). I would agree with you that an upgrade in the midfield was probably needed. Based on what I've seen they might benefit from having KJ move wide to supply bent with those great crosses. Whatever, I'm no EPL manager, Bruce has a track record.
I can understand how some on here may think I don't like Kenwyne or think he is rubbish, nothing could be further from the truth, the debate is with some that great exagerate his current ability mixing it up with his potential nothing more, Kenwyne is what he is, could he be better yes, will he be better, ask Kenwyne. I only type what I see, my opinion right or wrong, it is perfectly unstandable there is a natural bias towards Kenwyne.
When Kenwyne goes, I'll still be here because I like the debate and most are fine, force of habit.
Sunderland dont need new strikers, they need a team that can knock good ball. I watchin this Sunderland vs Stoke game now, and that first half. Jah.
Sunderland is a premier league team?
Plenty long inaccurate balls and Jones and Bent chasin them.
They are just a poor team. Good players.
Poor team.
See Bruce comment
This game shows how important KJ is to Sunderland. Sunderland midfield is shyte, not creative and technically poor, plus they lacking fitness.
Not surprising really, Cattermole has been out for months, Reid just returning from injury and has put the weight back on, Mensah was out on his feet last 15 / 20 mins because he hasn't played much all season. yet Bruce left him on ???
As for tarnsfers
Hutton came in on loan, better going forward than a defender but haven't seen him enough to comment properly but not jumping for joy from what I have seen.
Benjani maybe coming ON LOAN as he failed his medical, some mix up with the paperwork so club waiting for it to be confirmed.
As I suspected we haven't signed the Egyptian.
Out Healy, Murphy and Nosworthy all on loan.
what about Roy Keane down in Ipswich?
when he was coaching Sunderland he pull Man Utd rejects like Bardsley, Richardson and Evans..
now he at Ipswich he pulling Sunderland rejects like Carlos, Murphy and Healy..
he doh know about the word scout?
I think it has a lot to do with Keane's nature tbh he doesn't trust people easily and prefers his own judgement hence no scouts. Having said that both of those players will do well in the CCC because in all honestly thats their level. The vast majority of deals this windows have been loans, so Keane has 2 players he knows can perform at that level for the rest of the season without spending too much money, not many places he can go to get players like that.
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Don't say you weren't warned ;D
Too True!
I can understand how some on here may think I don't like Kenwyne or think he is rubbish, nothing could be further from the truth, the debate is with some that great exagerate his current ability mixing it up with his potential nothing more, Kenwyne is what he is, could he be better yes, will he be better, ask Kenwyne. I only type what I see, my opinion right or wrong, it is perfectly unstandable there is a natural bias towards Kenwyne.
When Kenwyne goes, I'll still be here because I like the debate and most are fine, force of habit.
I don't get into that KJ is the greatest, or KJ is rubbish talk at all. I was just saying that since he's still there, you'll have a good bit of people who will watch games and talk about them.
I appreciate that you're a true fan of your team. Sink or swim.
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black cats sign benjani on loan from money city.
more competition up front.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/8492573.stm
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black cats sign benjani on loan from money city.
more competition up front.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/8492573.stm
Competition fuh who? Who been inquiring about Benjani availability over the last few seasons? Anybody? Who other than Steve Bruce wanted him? Benjani eh in no position to take nobody spot on that team and if he do if futher confirmation that Bruce is ah clueless poosihole of ah manager. Da cocksucka eh even fit to shine ah real manager shoes!!
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black cats sign benjani on loan from money city.
more competition up front.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/8492573.stm
Competition fuh who? Who been inquiring about Benjani availability over the last few seasons? Anybody? Who other than Steve Bruce wanted him? Benjani eh in no position to take nobody spot on that team and if he do if futher confirmation that Bruce is ah clueless poosihole of ah manager. Da cocksucka eh even fit to shine ah real manager shoes!!
I don't see him as competition for anybody except Campbell. He will be used like Healy / Murphy when losing last 10 minutes or so when Bruce is hitting the panic button. Blackburn tried to get him on loan to replace BM on Monday and Hull wanted him last season tahts about it and think sums it up quite nicely.Don't say you weren't warned ;D
Too True!
I can understand how some on here may think I don't like Kenwyne or think he is rubbish, nothing could be further from the truth, the debate is with some that great exagerate his current ability mixing it up with his potential nothing more, Kenwyne is what he is, could he be better yes, will he be better, ask Kenwyne. I only type what I see, my opinion right or wrong, it is perfectly unstandable there is a natural bias towards Kenwyne.
When Kenwyne goes, I'll still be here because I like the debate and most are fine, force of habit.
I don't get into that KJ is the greatest, or KJ is rubbish talk at all. I was just saying that since he's still there, you'll have a good bit of people who will watch games and talk about them.
I appreciate that you're a true fan of your team. Sink or swim.
Didn't take it as a get at me at all.
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Sunderland v Wigan KO 3.00 PM GMT
Only a couple of foriegn channels showing this highly doubtful you will get a working link, not such a bad thing at the minute tbh ;D Another awful game coming up me thinks.
Mensah will be missing again, another injury picked up. Richardson still out.
I would expect Hutton to play at RB and Benjani on the bench.
Possible links not updated yet
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=63896&part=sports
http://www.p2p4u.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://atdhe.net/
Have a nice weekend everyone.
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Awful game, seem lost.
There goal although taken very well was a ball gifted to them 30 yards out.
Kenwyne carried on in the same vane as he did against Stoke, put himself about, scored a good header and looked well up for it. He even ran with the ball a couple of times past players something I haven't seen him do in a while, was very unlucky 1st half went past a couple of palyers had a shot that was deflected onto the post, he also got caught offside twice running forward nice to see, and to top it off he got booked for chasing and tackling back. Was MOM against Stoke easily again today.
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KJ is a shit snake .. he lazy :o
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KJ is a shit snake .. he lazy :o
You'll not find anything where I call him lazy, disinterested yes.
But having said that it looked like he blocked a goalbound effort a couple of yards out while lying on the ground after challenging for a ball, come to think about it the lazy b should of got up quicker and we would of won instead of drawing. ;D
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KJ is a shit snake .. he lazy :o
You'll not find anything where I call him lazy, disinterested yes.
But having said that it looked like he blocked a goalbound effort a couple of yards out while lying on the ground after challenging for a ball, come to think about it the lazy b should of got up quicker and we would of won instead of drawing. ;D
Just pulling yuh legs mate ... Im a huge KJ fan.. was trying to lure out the KJ haters .
Yes he blocked a goal but I was happy to see him in the mix challenging for it in the 6 yard box. And yuh damn right .. another MOM performance!
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"Sack Bruce"
Those guys don't want to play for Bruce. Even Bent seems to have lost his way
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Bruce needs to mix it up a bit...everything he says can't be negative...Even the chary Benitez is learning that he can't do that all the time
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"Sack Bruce"
Those guys don't want to play for Bruce. Even Bent seems to have lost his way
That's standard operating procedure for Bent...that's one thing you can't blame on Bruce.
Considering how well they were playing at the start of the season it's amazing how badly they look now, seems that Bruce has lost his dressing room.
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Bruce needs to mix it up a bit...everything he says can't be negative...Even the chary Benitez is learning that he can't do that all the time
Why didn't bruce signed geovani dosantos, he would've brought nuff pace creativity and ball movement in the midfield. now he gone all the way in turkey when he could've been @ sunderland.
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Bruce needs to mix it up a bit...everything he says can't be negative...Even the chary Benitez is learning that he can't do that all the time
Why didn't bruce signed geovani dosantos, he would've brought nuff pace creativity and ball movement in the midfield. now he gone all the way in turkey when he could've been @ sunderland.
Its hard to tell what was / is going through Bruce's mind he certainly is seeing things differently to me. Here is my guess at what went on in the transfer window.
He wanted a LB from Wigan, the deal was fell through last day in teh summer window, Bruce thought it was just a matter of time and price, didn't bother looking elsewhere it didn't happen left a big hole with no back up.
A RB was 2nd had no one in mind so had a few options, left it late spoke to 3 and got Hutton on loan.
The Kenwyne thing was done to death, but tried to get Kurangi (sp) and probably would of sold Kenwyne, Liverpool are skint and tried to get Kenwyne on loan as short term stop gap while trying to sign someone else for next season who is out of contract in the summer on a precontract.
Bruce constantly went on about defenders and a forward never mentioned midfield all January, we were linked very late on with teh Egyptian who had on trial in the summer either this was the players agent trying to drum up a sale which is quite common or he had an afterthought left it too late and couldn't agree a deal, if I was a betting man it would be the latter for me.
The galling thing for me is that Malbranque & Richardson haven't performed all season and we are just relying on Reid who isn't going to be in form all season. In addition we have Henderson who is just a kid whose form is always going to vary, but has also been played in CM to cover for the injured Cattermole and he isn't a CM. So Bruce had no interest in strengthening midfield where we only have 2 CM's (1 injured most of the season) and 2 effective creative players 1 of which is a kid. Reid had an injury (hence the afterthought above), but now Henderson is out for 2/3 months leaving only 1 creative player.
Very strange and as I said not teh gaps I would of filled or rather tried to fill more gaps, don't understand him tbh.
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Bruce needs to mix it up a bit...everything he says can't be negative...Even the chary Benitez is learning that he can't do that all the time
Why didn't bruce signed geovani dosantos, he would've brought nuff pace creativity and ball movement in the midfield. now he gone all the way in turkey when he could've been @ sunderland.
Its hard to tell what was / is going through Bruce's mind he certainly is seeing things differently to me. Here is my guess at what went on in the transfer window.
He wanted a LB from Wigan, the deal was fell through last day in teh summer window, Bruce thought it was just a matter of time and price, didn't bother looking elsewhere it didn't happen left a big hole with no back up.
A RB was 2nd had no one in mind so had a few options, left it late spoke to 3 and got Hutton on loan.
The Kenwyne thing was done to death, but tried to get Kurangi (sp) and probably would of sold Kenwyne, Liverpool are skint and tried to get Kenwyne on loan as short term stop gap while trying to sign someone else for next season who is out of contract in the summer on a precontract.
Bruce constantly went on about defenders and a forward never mentioned midfield all January, we were linked very late on with teh Egyptian who had on trial in the summer either this was the players agent trying to drum up a sale which is quite common or he had an afterthought left it too late and couldn't agree a deal, if I was a betting man it would be the latter for me.
The galling thing for me is that Malbranque & Richardson haven't performed all season and we are just relying on Reid who isn't going to be in form all season. In addition we have Henderson who is just a kid whose form is always going to vary, but has also been played in CM to cover for the injured Cattermole and he isn't a CM. So Bruce had no interest in strengthening midfield where we only have 2 CM's (1 injured most of the season) and 2 effective creative players 1 of which is a kid. Reid had an injury (hence the afterthought above), but now Henderson is out for 2/3 months leaving only 1 creative player.
Very strange and as I said not teh gaps I would of filled or rather tried to fill more gaps, don't understand him tbh.
Thanx to figeruora! he's ah real nasty pr!ck! that injury on henderson was deliberate! and he almost took out zenden as well.
as for your midfield woes. when bruce got rid of white head and carlos, i knew he was making ah huge mistake. if any coach have any sense they could see that carlos is an excelent center mid, don't know why coaches continue tuh use the boy on the flanks.
as far as dosantos goes, how could any coach miss out on such ah briliant speedy creative player! watch this kid light up the world cup come june, most english coaches real sleeping and missing out of teriffic players.
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JC never had a problem moving palyers on, my problem was not replacing them
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Portsmouth V Sunderland KO 7.45 PM GMT
Expect another horrible game, a few more channels covering this so unfortunately you may find a working link. I hope so anyway so I can watch it.
Links not updated yet
http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch1.html
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=63901&part=sports
http://www.p2p4u.net/
http://atdhe.net/
Probably 1 change Henderson is out for 4/6/8 weeks.
Hope Kenwyne continues what he has been doing for the last 2 games.
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Portsmouth V Sunderland KO 7.45 PM GMT
Expect another horrible game, a few more channels covering this so unfortunately you may find a working link. I hope so anyway so I can watch it.
Links not updated yet
http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch1.html
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=63901&part=sports
http://www.p2p4u.net/
http://atdhe.net/
Probably 1 change Henderson is out for 4/6/8 weeks.
Hope Kenwyne continues what he has been doing for the last 2 games.
He looking good so far, he just hit a man a rollie pollie, but got fouled. He would have been clear if that did not happen. He also set up Bent with a nice ball before the foul in the box for the penalty.
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KJ really getting on, from defense to midfield to attacking he like salt he in everything.
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Yuh mean tuh tell meh the cats lose that lead so late in the game??!!
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Sund manage to snatch a draw from the jaws of victory. . .Hard luck dey Sund. . .KJ shudda put away that goal mouth pass from Bent, though. . .
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Awful game thought Kenwyne played well again, agree C thought he was caught on his heels for a split second, but also Bent missed a one on one with James although made a good save should of still scored imho.
Cattermole sent off misses Arsenal, Meyler only young hasn't shown that before so not sure if it was deliberate maybe either wound up or lack of experience not sure which.
Defending is absolutely atrocious.
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Don't agree....Bent tried to shoot that. Plus even if he trying to find KJ he should have put it in the air back post the first time as KJ was un marked. Instead he put it on the floor for a guy 6 5'.
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Sunderland forever ?? ..and this thread so long ? ah bet if jones leave.. dais it ! is de worst football I have seen in many years ..and i old ! in fact to call what Sunderland is offering anything other than air tennis is to be kind.
..is just a referee two linesmen and air traffic control ...boom ! boom ! dey should send for Iwer to be mascot for dat team ...an to think dey paying man 50,000 pounds a week for dat ...dat entire team should be slapped with a embezzlement charge yes !
ah sorry but football forever ...not what sunderland playing !
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Sunderland forever ?? ..and this thread so long ? ah bet if jones leave.. dais it ! is de worst football I have seen in many years ..and i old ! in fact to call what Sunderland is offering anything other than air tennis is to be kind.
..is just a referee two linesmen and air traffic control ...boom ! boom ! dey should send for Iwer to be mascot for dat team ...an to think dey paying man 50,000 pounds a week for dat ...dat entire team should be slapped with a embezzlement charge yes !
ah sorry but football forever ...not what sunderland playing !
Do you honestly believe I will give it in after all the abuse I have taken, your joking right.
Please stop insulting air tennis
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Sunderland forever ?? ..and this thread so long ? ah bet if jones leave.. dais it ! is de worst football I have seen in many years ..and i old ! in fact to call what Sunderland is offering anything other than air tennis is to be kind.
..is just a referee two linesmen and air traffic control ...boom ! boom ! dey should send for Iwer to be mascot for dat team ...an to think dey paying man 50,000 pounds a week for dat ...dat entire team should be slapped with a embezzlement charge yes !
ah sorry but football forever ...not what sunderland playing !
Harry Redknapp slamed claims that long ball football isnt effective... Spurs are in 5th with Crouch up front and every game its boom to him he heads down to midfielders or to Defoe and it works for them
As he said you dont expect Spurs to use Crouch for running onto balls and playing neat passes into his feet... you use his strengths and their position in the league proves it works
Same with Sunderland..they dont have as much cash as Spurs so they will use the same technique as Spurs with the long ball to KJ and hope Bent can score off his dirty work..which he has.. so fact again(Rafa-Esq)
If you want to see a set of 5 foot midgets playing quick ball to feet with their overfitselves with space all over the field and poor defending watch your La Liga ...
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If you want to see a set of 5 foot midgets playing quick ball to feet with their overfitselves with space all over the field and poor defending watch your La Liga ...
Or watch Arsenal ;)
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Sunderland forever ?? ..and this thread so long ? ah bet if jones leave.. dais it ! is de worst football I have seen in many years ..and i old ! in fact to call what Sunderland is offering anything other than air tennis is to be kind.
..is just a referee two linesmen and air traffic control ...boom ! boom ! dey should send for Iwer to be mascot for dat team ...an to think dey paying man 50,000 pounds a week for dat ...dat entire team should be slapped with a embezzlement charge yes !
ah sorry but football forever ...not what sunderland playing !
You eh tired talk cock!! yuh should be ashamed tuh call any team sh!tty when TNT is ah proven sh!t team! now if that's not the pot tellin the kettle he bottom black then i don't know what is! yuh ever hear, if yuh live in glass house refrian from pelting stones? :shameonyou:
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Sunderland forever ?? ..and this thread so long ? ah bet if jones leave.. dais it ! is de worst football I have seen in many years ..and i old ! in fact to call what Sunderland is offering anything other than air tennis is to be kind.
..is just a referee two linesmen and air traffic control ...boom ! boom ! dey should send for Iwer to be mascot for dat team ...an to think dey paying man 50,000 pounds a week for dat ...dat entire team should be slapped with a embezzlement charge yes !
ah sorry but football forever ...not what sunderland playing !
Harry Redknapp slamed claims that long ball football isnt effective... Spurs are in 5th with Crouch up front and every game its boom to him he heads down to midfielders or to Defoe and it works for them
As he said you dont expect Spurs to use Crouch for running onto balls and playing neat passes into his feet... you use his strengths and their position in the league proves it works
Same with Sunderland..they dont have as much cash as Spurs so they will use the same technique as Spurs with the long ball to KJ and hope Bent can score off his dirty work..which he has.. so fact again(Rafa-Esq)
If you want to see a set of 5 foot midgets playing quick ball to feet with their overfitselves with space all over the field and poor defending watch your La Liga ...
Look one of them 5 foot midgets here
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/VAhgJNELc9Y
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Arsenal v Sunderland KO 3.00 PM GMT
Should be plenty of working links as big 4 game.
Not Updated yet
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=65146&part=sports
http://www.p2p4u.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/6293-arsenal-vs-sunderland-.html
http://atdhe.net/
Team news, all the defenders are fit (debatable with Mensah), Reid is out as is Henderson (8 weeks), Cattermole is banned Richardson is back (no big deal done sfa all season). No creativity in mf at all so hoof all day (please god let me be wrong).
Expect a cake walk for Arsenal.
Have a nice weekend everyone, I'll be back after the match for the slagging as usual.
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Look like Stern take Kenwyne under his wing.
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Jones. . . .Jones. . .Jones
Disappointing. . .heartbreaking
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Jones. . . .Jones. . .Jones
Disappointing. . .heartbreaking
He had so much time. That was a panic shot.
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ha well dat is a dagger penalty in extra time 2-0 Arsenal
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Jones. . . .Jones. . .Jones
Disappointing. . .heartbreaking
He had so much time. That was a panic shot.
Was he subbed off at half time?
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Jones. . . .Jones. . .Jones
Disappointing. . .heartbreaking
He had so much time. That was a panic shot.
Was he subbed off at half time?
About 80 minutes I think for Benjani.
The score was kind to us largely thanks to Gordon.
Bent spent most of the game as a virtual left back, crazy. Kenwyne's shot well thats Kenwyne tbh, Bent had one aswell but he was under pressure and it hit the keepers knee.
Still trying to figure out what I was watching, I couldn't believe it, CH in midfield, 2 forwards in midfield with one virtually as a LB, he then puts the LB in midfield and CH at LB and 2 midfileders on the bench. Takes off a midfielder and puts another one on, leaving the LB on but still getting raped down that side. Only the last 10-15 minutes does he move Bent forward. Crazy. ::)
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Jones. . . .Jones. . .Jones
Disappointing. . .heartbreaking
He had so much time. That was a panic shot.
Was he subbed off at half time?
About 80 minutes I think for Benjani.
The score was kind to us largely thanks to Gordon.
Bent spent most of the game as a virtual left back, crazy. Kenwyne's shot well thats Kenwyne tbh, Bent had one aswell but he was under pressure and it hit the keepers knee.
Still trying to figure out what I was watching, I couldn't believe it, CH in midfield, 2 forwards in midfield with one virtually as a LB, he then puts the LB in midfield and CH at LB and 2 midfileders on the bench. Takes off a midfielder and puts another one on, leaving the LB on but still getting raped down that side. Only the last 10-15 minutes does he move Bent forward. Crazy. ::)
Not sure he had too many options, though. With almost no fit midfielders.
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Jones. . . .Jones. . .Jones
Disappointing. . .heartbreaking
He had so much time. That was a panic shot.
Was he subbed off at half time?
About 80 minutes I think for Benjani.
The score was kind to us largely thanks to Gordon.
Bent spent most of the game as a virtual left back, crazy. Kenwyne's shot well thats Kenwyne tbh, Bent had one aswell but he was under pressure and it hit the keepers knee.
Still trying to figure out what I was watching, I couldn't believe it, CH in midfield, 2 forwards in midfield with one virtually as a LB, he then puts the LB in midfield and CH at LB and 2 midfileders on the bench. Takes off a midfielder and puts another one on, leaving the LB on but still getting raped down that side. Only the last 10-15 minutes does he move Bent forward. Crazy. ::)
Not sure he had too many options, though. With almost no fit midfielders.
He had Malbranque and Zenden on the bench, Ferninand looked like a fish out of water, McCartney hopeless at LB. I could understand the switch around if McCartney had ending up protecting Ferninand but never happened, Arsenal's 2 goals came with Bent trying to do a LB job and Campbell the same for the penalty.
I am a great believer in playing players in their positions a decent player in his own position will usually do a better job than a good player out of position.
Bent must be heartbroken Capello turns up to watch the match and he is playing as a virtual LB.
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Sunderland v Fulham KO 3.00 PM GMT
The game is being played today because of Fulham's involvement in Europa League on Thursday. An extra game, lot of travelling and a couple of players doubtful seems like a decent time to play Fulham, but just have to wait and see tbh.
Bruce has most of the squad available excluding Reid & Henderson which have provided most of the creativity. The crowd are close to a tipping point with Bruce with both results, performances and hoofball so if they go behind the dissenting voices will be easily heard. He has had a lot of injuries but he has also not helped himself with tactics, players, chopping and changing and some interviews.
Possible links as it is being shown on a couple of foriegn channels, as usual not updated yet.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=65164&part=sports
http://www.iraqgoals.net/6543-sunderland-vs-fulham-fc-.html
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.p2p4u.net/
Kenwyne did an interview on Soccer Saturday yesterday that the interviewer seemed more intent in asking about Liverpool etc. It hasn't appeared on the Sky webpages (yet) if it does I will put up a link (if I remember to look)
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Kev my man. Yuh is a die-hard, Much respect for that. But man, this team hard to watch.
I spend most of the game cussing the tv. Aimless passing, missed plays, unimaginative play.
People does pay hard-earned money to go and see that?
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Kev my man. Yuh is a die-hard, Much respect for that. But man, this team hard to watch.
I spend most of the game cussing the tv. Aimless passing, missed plays, unimaginative play.
People does pay hard-earned money to go and see that?
You'll get no argument from me :-[
PS You missed out slow / pedestrian / predictable
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somebody should tell bruce to put jones in the back and start benjani
that way jones can come foward for set plays cause he can only score with his head
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Sunderland not in danger of relegation - Kenwyne Jones
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47422000/jpg/_47422282_008667076-1.jpg)
Kenwyne Jones
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/8552405.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/8552405.stm)
Jones has scored seven goals for Sunderland this season
Sunderland striker Kenwyne Jones says he and his team-mates are confident of retaining their Premier League status.
Jones, 25, is part of the Sunderland side that have failed to win in the Premier League since October but denies any need to panic at the current time.
The Trinidad & Tobago player told BBC Newcastle: "We're not acting as though we're close to relegation, all we have is the nervousness of not winning.
"We're not carrying the fear of being relegated," he added.
He added: "We're close but we're not going to talk about it like we're in the bottom three.
"We've drawn a lot of games but any point we get now is a good one."
The former Southampton man is keen to lead from the front in terms of lifting the club clear of trouble.
"Everyone has to do it, it takes 11 players to defend at times," he said.
"It's part of the job, you have to pick up positions and do a job."
Jones joined Sunderland from Southampton for £6m in August 2007.
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I aint post in a while so allyuh just keep with this shyt thread.
Fire bun this side....
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C'mon Sunderland....
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Sunderland trashing bolton with minuites tuh go. 4-0
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Like Kev too drunk to post ;D
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Like Kev too drunk to post ;D
ah hear before the game start, somebody ketch'im on camera near the dugout managers' bench
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:WlU1TtezOfSAXM:http://www.elftown.com/stuff/Hand_throwing_bottle..jpg)
nobody was sure,doh he try to explain exactly who was the target...but the excuse didn't hold water an dey probably carry him down anyway...jus jokin kev, basket doh hold water, try beer
ps:congrats on the win...hope the headache not to bad
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Sorry (or for others you owe me one) I didn't post was busy and never got time.
The game was OK the score flatter us got the goals at the right time not a great performance, doesn't matter now all about points, probably another 6 and we will be safe. Still come to the conclusion Bruce needs to go.
Kenwyne did OK, not as well as he has in recent games, 1 good shot, 1 poor shot and a disallowed goal for offside. Nice to see him being caught offside more (see previous posts) as it means he is getting in scoring positions more often.
Will make sure its up on Sunday 4.00 PM GMT should be plenty of links as its live in UK.
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Sunderland v Man City KO 4.00 PM GMT
Possible links, should be no problem today as on more channels than you can shake a stick at.
Reid & Henderson still out, so very little creativity (surprise) and Cana suspended.
Man City again another team never seem to do anything against and the last 3 games decisions have gone against, some weird ones, so who knows, I don't just 6 points from somewhere, somehow.
Possible Links
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=67111&part=sports
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.p2p4u.net/
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1-0 Jones...sweet header
10' gone... vs Man City in Sunderland
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Is KJ man marking or playing as a withdrawn striker?
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dare i say.. Sunderland actually knocking some ball.
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Ok Sunderland losing this game. They subbed KJ at half time and you know Man City going and turn up the speed.
I feel KJ gone in the Summer.
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Ok Sunderland losing this game. They subbed KJ at half time and you know Man City going and turn up the speed.
I feel KJ gone in the Summer.
i heard the commentators mention something about KJ not being fully fit.. in any case that would be the only plausible explanation.
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Ok Sunderland losing this game. They subbed KJ at half time and you know Man City going and turn up the speed.
I feel KJ gone in the Summer.
i heard the commentators mention something about KJ not being fully fit.. in any case that would be the only plausible explanation.
I was thinking that. Joined the game late (I did) and at half time report saw him sommersaulting after his goal. So maybe the flu or something after he scored.
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Ok Sunderland losing this game. They subbed KJ at half time and you know Man City going and turn up the speed.
I feel KJ gone in the Summer.
i heard the commentators mention something about KJ not being fully fit.. in any case that would be the only plausible explanation.
I was thinking that. Joined the game late (I did) and at half time report saw him sommersaulting after his goal. So maybe the flu or something after he scored.
it was after he scored the goal he started to look uncomfortable and was signalling to the bench
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Some kinda muscle injury. Wonder if is from de somersault?
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Flikin Golazzo!!!!!
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Gordon rel get on.
Sunderland is nothing with out KJ.
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Jones advice to Sunderland – fear no one
Kenwyne Jones says Sunderland should fear no one as they prepare to take on Manchester City this weekend.
Sunderland beat Bolton 4-0 this week to end four months without a Premier League win..Read the rest ..http://ctntworld.com/SportArticles.aspx?id=18970
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Jones advice to Sunderland – fear no one
Kenwyne Jones says Sunderland should fear no one as they prepare to take on Manchester City this weekend.
Sunderland beat Bolton 4-0 this week to end four months without a Premier League win..Read the rest ..http://ctntworld.com/SportArticles.aspx?id=18970
ummm..........hmmmmm....errrrrrr.......aren't u a bit late with this one? :heehee:
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Jones advice to Sunderland – fear no one
Kenwyne Jones says Sunderland should fear no one as they prepare to take on Manchester City this weekend.
Sunderland beat Bolton 4-0 this week to end four months without a Premier League win..Read the rest ..http://ctntworld.com/SportArticles.aspx?id=18970
ummm..........hmmmmm....errrrrrr.......aren't u a bit late with this one? :heehee:
Yeh missed the previous posts
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Gordon rel get on.
Sunderland is nothing with out KJ.
..they are even less without Gordon!
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One of the old cliche's today a game of two halves.
Thought we did Ok 1st half, closed them down, kept them busy had people going forward and man City were awful. Came out guns blazing 2nd half we dropped too far back and didn't do anything we did in the 1st half.
I'm sure Kenwyne took a knock 5/10 minutes after his goal and hobbled through the rest of the half so it wasn't a big surprise he didn't come out for the 2nd half.
Gordon rel get on.
Sunderland is nothing with out KJ.
Aye right
Edit
Its Kenwyne's groin, Bruce is saying he could be out for a month.
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Jones injured his groin.
Bruce - Injuries cost us again
BBC Sport
Sunderland manager Steve Bruce lamented his side's unfortunate run of injuries after seeing goalscorer Kenwyne Jones forced off in their 1-1 draw with Manchester City.
Jones' header after nine minutes looked to have sealed a second Premier League win in 15 games for the home side, only for boyhood Sunderland fan Adam Johnson to snatch a point with an injury-time equaliser.
With inspirational midfielder Lee Cattermole also missing after suffering another injury setback, Bruce revealed his frustration after seeing Jones come off at half-time, as he felt it changed the game.
The Black Cats boss revealed the striker was forced off with a groin problem and it remains to be seen how long he will be out.
"I think we've got to say it's a fair result overall, but when you get so close, obviously it's disappointing," he said.
"The injury to Kenwyne disrupted us. We lost him through injury, that's the story of our season so far. We've lost too many through injury."
He added: "We are a threat with (Darren) Bent and Jones up front and he has been playing some of the best football I have seen since I've been here.
"It has disrupted us and when you get so close - I think it's 10 points we have lost this season late on - it's hard to take."
Disappointment
Despite his disappointment at conceding a late goal, Bruce was quick to praise Johnson's leveller and admitted that he had been interested in securing his signature in the January transfer window.
"It's a wonder goal," he said. "Sod's Law it's him who we've tried to sign for the past six months."
However, Bruce conceded goalkeeper Craig Gordon had kept his side in the game in the second half, adding: "The goalkeeper produced two or three great saves."
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Sunderland vs Manchester City Highlights – Premiership
http://theoriginalwinger.com/2010-03-14-sunderland-vs-manchester-city-highlights-premiership (http://theoriginalwinger.com/2010-03-14-sunderland-vs-manchester-city-highlights-premiership)
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Sunderland v Brum KO 3.00 GMT
Kenwyne is having a late fitness test so don't know if he will play, as does Reid & Cattermole with Cana suspended.
Haven't a clue what will happen today, 6 points all that will be needed imho, the team didn't turn up at Birmingham which has been par for the course for the most part away this season.
Only on a few foriegn channels so likely to be very lucky and not get a working link.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=68429&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.com/en/
http://www.p2p4u.net/
Have a nice weekend everybody
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Sunderland v Brum KO 3.00 GMT
Kenwyne is having a late fitness test so don't know if he will play, as does Reid & Cattermole with Cana suspended.
Haven't a clue what will happen today, 6 points all that will be needed imho, the team didn't turn up at Birmingham which has been par for the course for the most part away this season.
Only on a few foriegn channels so likely to be very lucky and not get a working link.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=68429&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.com/en/
http://www.p2p4u.net/
Have a nice weekend everybody
Eh kev , we wiining this one! benjani is ah good fill in for kenwyne, he will get ah brace , while bent and cambell will get one ah piece. final score sunlun 4- 1 brimingham.
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Eh kev , we wiining this one! benjani is ah good fill in for kenwyne, he will get ah brace ,
while bent and cambell will get one ah piece. final score sunlun 4- 1 brimingham.
3-1 close enough :beermug:
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Sunderland v Brum KO 3.00 GMT
Kenwyne is having a late fitness test so don't know if he will play, as does Reid & Cattermole with Cana suspended.
Haven't a clue what will happen today, 6 points all that will be needed imho, the team didn't turn up at Birmingham which has been par for the course for the most part away this season.
Only on a few foriegn channels so likely to be very lucky and not get a working link.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=68429&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.com/en/
http://www.p2p4u.net/
Have a nice weekend everybody
Eh kev , we wiining this one! benjani is ah good fill in for kenwyne, he will get ah brace , while bent and cambell will get one ah piece. final score sunlun 4- 1 brimingham.
Bent with de brace and Campbell. Not a bad call ;D
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Well one more win and thats it basically.
Gordon again was superb today, defence is woeful.
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Bent
21 goals already for the season.....
Proven goalscorer..... :applause:
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Villa v Sunderland KO 7.45 GMT
Kenwyne is only rated 50/50 so facing late test again as is Mensah, Reid is still out.
Cana returns from suspension.
Again another team we get nothing from in terms of points or decisions so anything a bonus.
Only being shown on a couple of channels so may struggle for a link
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=69214&part=sports
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://atdhe.net/15840/watch-aston-villa-vs-sunderland
http://www.p2p4u.net/
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Sunlun just drew with aston villa @ villa park 1-1 goal by campbell in the 5th and carew in the 8th. :applause:
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Sunlun just drew with aston villa @ villa park 1-1 goal by campbell in the 5th and carew in the 8th. :applause:
Good fuh Sun'land taking a point @ Villa. Villa does always like to sputter at the end eh! If they had 1 either one of these fixtures this week they would be in the 4th place argument, but it look like they slipping out of it.
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Nice finish by Campbell.
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Kenwyne Jones Still Injured link http://ctntworld.com/SportArticles.aspx?id=19346
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Decent point again Gordon to thank for it, Liverpool at the weekend Sunday 4.00 GMT.
Kenwyne was "touch and go" for this one so suspect he will be back for Sunday, hope so because Liverpool aren't great in the air at the back. Virtually safe now for the season.
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Liverpool v Sunderland KO 4.00 GMT.
Its live on Sky so there should be more links than you can shake a stick at.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=69235&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/16193/watch-liverpool-fc-vs-sunderland
http://www.iraqgoals.net/7208-liverpool-fc-vs-sunderland-.html
Kenwyne should be fit according to Bruce but will he bring him back? he should as Liverpool are suspect in the air. A rather unusual occurance Mensah is injured, Reid still out. Cana can return after suspension suspect he will.
Have a good Sunday.
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Torres already score.
1-0 Nine minutes in. Sunderland uniform looking good at least....
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Torres already score.
Shambolic defending!
1-0 Nine minutes in. Sunderland uniform looking good at least....
Sunderland's defenders are terrible.
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Torres already score.
Shambolic defending!
1-0 Nine minutes in. Sunderland uniform looking good at least....
Sunderland's defenders are terrible.
Sunderland uniform looking good at least....
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Jones is down... :(
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... and he's back up.
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Torres already score.
Shambolic defending!
1-0 Nine minutes in. Sunderland uniform looking good at least....
Sunderland's defenders are terrible.
Sunderland uniform looking good at least....
Yeeeeeaaah even tho de shawts a lil too tight fuh my likin' it arright.........but I's a Adidas man right tru!
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Man I think KJ need to move on from this team :beermug:
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Didn't think today was that much different from Villa, City or Brum games in terms of chances/defending only Gordon couldn't save them and we didn't keep the ball at all.
Spuds next Saturday
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Sh*t side
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Didn't think today was that much different from Villa, City or Brum games in terms of chances/defending only Gordon couldn't save them and we didn't keep the ball at all.
Spuds next Saturday
Liverpool were fired up,especially in the first half but Sunderland looked like they were already on holiday for most of the game.
I wouldn't call them a sh!t side though...more a case of a sh!t manager.
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Sh*t side
simple and to the point there, cant agree more
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Kev, whats the deal with the manager and the board
any rumblings from board members about his ability
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Steve bruce did shyte today, why did he used richardson and bardsley instead of hutton, bardsley is slow, and horrible going forward, babel and toress just had their way with him. hutton held down bellamy, and i'm sure he would've done ah better job with babel.
as for mr richardson, he's just absolutely fackin clueless! those two were the culprits today, and throw cana in that mix as well. it's really easy for two bad players tuh make ah whole team look shabby.
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Kev, whats the deal with the manager and the board
any rumblings from board members about his ability
I love Quinny (Chairman) to bits as he saved the club, but he is genuinely one of the "nice guys" and I doubt he will sack Bruce unless forced by Short (owner). Short is probably a results based person and Bruce is lucky he is American and doesn't "know football" otherwise given the performances, tactics etc he might be asking Bruce some serious questions. I have watched him all season and tbh I don't want him here next season but Gordon may of saved his job.
Yesterday was a prime example of why moved players around unnecessarily, fair enough Hutton injured but should of left Richardson in midfield, Ferninand at LB and brought Da Silva in from the start. The defence is poor Turner is average but he will play irregardless. Same as Cattermole (out of form) and Cana. He is slow to change things around when not working and when he does makes weird/wrong changes happened yesterday and has happened all season.
I thought as previously said he was an uninspired choice and average manager, I am still waiting for him to achieve that level, he might get lucky in a season or so given enough money but overall I don't think he is the right man for the job.
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Sunderland v Spurs KO 3.00 PM GMT
Quite a few channels taking this so should get a link. Mensah & Reid out through injury, safc.com is saying Kenwyne should start. Don't really expect anything with our defence but home advantage. I thought the display at Spurs was probably one of our best displays of the season and still don't understand how we managed to lose that match, so maybe it will even out.
Possible links
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=70245&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/7338-sunderland-vs-tottenham-hotspur-.html
http://www.p2p4u.net/
Have a nice weekend everyone
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Darren Bent
1-0 0.37'
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Spurs in bits, 2-0 Sunderland
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Bentr just missed a 2nd Pk.
For all the Pk that was not called in the Chelsea v Man United game, it's being called in this game.
Spurs looking like they don't have a clue. Game really scrappy.
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Best first half performance of the season for Sunderland! Bent and Malbranqe playing like dey really want to suck it to their former club. Campbell and Henderson doing their thing as well. I hope they could keep it up, because Spurs will certainly come at them in de 2nd half. Well done so far Sunderland!
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Bentr just missed a 2nd Pk.
For all the Pk that was not called in the Chelsea v Man United game, it's being called in this game.
Spurs looking like they don't have a clue. Game really scrappy.
That second penalty was a dive anyway. Campbell was going down before Modrich even brush him.
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game aint over yet nah, with suderland they could still lose this game lol
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Dafoe does have meh stomach in ah knot
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study bent miss a next penalty
WTF!
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Crouch...2-1..game on...Bent must be tripping
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2-1 Crouch 72'
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dat kma thief, Crutch, hold down the defender, he have to be good...this fella had no dreads
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KJ dummy meh dey, yes ! :rotfl: :rotfl:
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For the life of me I don't know how allyuh men could big up KJ as a striker with a straight face.
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Shocking Kenwyne! :o
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For the life of me I don't know how allyuh men could big up KJ as a striker with a straight face.
Yeah. Good strikers never miskick.
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Oh what a goal for by Zenden. I did not like that sinking feeling at 2-1, and with Jones miss.
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For the life of me I don't know how allyuh men could big up KJ as a striker with a straight face.
Yeah. Good strikers never miskick.
How often does Kenwyne even "kick"?
And doh even start dat "he does draw two defenders tuh set up Bent" nonsense... because Bent shining whole season whether Kenwyne on de pitch or not.
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Decent game although a bit strange, 3 penalties, the 2 misses I thought his 1st one was just an OK penalty with an OK save, thought the 2nd was a decent penalty and a good save.
Couldn't see a lot wrong with the disallowed goal and Crouch only had the 2 arms on Turner for theirs so nothing wrong with that then.
I would like to give a mention to young Meyler, didn't start playing football until late (teens I think), has been thrown in the deep end this season in a CM role and looks a very decent prospect given how long he has been playing and his age.
Basically save so just plod from now on, West Ham away next Saturday.
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Fair play to Sunderland today they deserved the win, they were up for this one in a big way and we were sh!t. That was the softest performance I've seen from Spurs all season, very disappointing.
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For the life of me I don't know how allyuh men could big up KJ as a striker with a straight face.
Yeah. Good strikers never miskick.
How often does Kenwyne even "kick"?
And doh even start dat "he does draw two defenders tuh set up Bent" nonsense... because Bent shining whole season whether Kenwyne on de pitch or not.
To be fair to kenwyne, he was fresh on the pitch and was trying tuh get his legs under him, kenwyne would normally bury chances like that, but that's football,
i've also seen bigger better striker miss easier chances, just last week carlton cole missed ah frankoment sitter, today berber missed two easier chances, and so did defoe.
BTW, KJ's first EPL goal was a nice shot against against redding, and since then he's scored @ least 8 goals with his feet, when last did bent scored with his head? or anelka, or cole, tevez, adebayor, torez, defoe, yakubu, and if they did recently, it's only once in ah blue moon.
KJ may not have the best touches in the wide world of prolific strikers, but he certainly deserves to be in their company. just ask arry and raffa.
PS : campell missed two headers today, that i'm almost sure KJ would've converted. that's football for yuh, definitely can't win them all.
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For the life of me I don't know how allyuh men could big up KJ as a striker with a straight face.
Yeah. Good strikers never miskick.
How often does Kenwyne even "kick"?
And doh even start dat "he does draw two defenders tuh set up Bent" nonsense... because Bent shining whole season whether Kenwyne on de pitch or not.
I don't know about this season... but in the two seasons before that, only half of his total goals were headers.
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For the life of me I don't know how allyuh men could big up KJ as a striker with a straight face.
Yeah. Good strikers never miskick.
How often does Kenwyne even "kick"?
And doh even start dat "he does draw two defenders tuh set up Bent" nonsense... because Bent shining whole season whether Kenwyne on de pitch or not.
To be fair to kenwyne, he was fresh on the pitch and was trying tuh get his legs under him, kenwyne would normally bury chances like that, but that's football,
i've also seen bigger better striker miss easier chances, just last week carlton cole missed ah frankoment sitter, today berber missed two easier chances, and so did defoe.
BTW, KJ's first EPL goal was a nice shot against against redding, and since then he's scored @ least 8 goals with his feet, when last did bent scored with his head? or anelka, or cole, tevez, adebayor, torez, defoe, yakubu, and if they did recently, it's only once in ah blue moon.
KJ may not have the best touches in the wide world of prolific strikers, but he certainly deserves to be in their company. just ask arry and raffa.
PS : campell missed two headers today, that i'm almost sure KJ would've converted. that's football for yuh, definitely can't win them all.
imho Kenwyne lacks composure and confidence a lot of this is also down to his movement or lack of it. He doesn't get himself in those positions often enough if he did his composure/confidence would improve as he would get more chances score more goals (but also miss more). His value is in the type of player his is and lack of them kicking about, he would be better if we had wingers with pace, but as above needs to get himself in scoring positions much more often. You could see he was still thinking about it afterwards as it effected him. He was fresh on the field, but Kenwyne is Kenwyne people just have to accept it.
I was after Kenwyne getting on way before Bruce put him on and thought it was strange he took Bent off (unless had a knock) Bent was winning in the air I think it would of given Spurs much more to think about.
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Like a personal duel goin on between Bent & Spurs yes -and particularly between him and Gomes - thas the 3rd penalty save by the latter on him for the season yes.
Kenwyne like he lacks the technical ability, composure and finishing ability to be considered a reliable forward/striker. His game has stagnated a bit since that early promise, and he'd better step his game up if he wants to progress beyond anything more than playing for also ran type teams.
Not beyond the realm of possibility that he might even end up back in the Championship like the other Trinis if he doh start scoring yes - but I suppose it's just as likely that he can carve out a role like Heskey in that event as well.
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Like a personal duel goin on between Bent & Spurs yes -and particularly between him and Gomes - thas the 3rd penalty save by the latter on him for the season yes.
Kenwyne like he lacks the technical ability, composure and finishing ability to be considered a reliable forward/striker. His game has stagnated a bit since that early promise, and he'd better step his game up if he wants to progress beyond anything more than playing for also ran type teams.
Not beyond the realm of possibility that he might even end up back in the Championship like the other Trinis if he doh start scoring yes - but I suppose it's just as likely that he can carve out a role like Heskey in that event as well.
Nonesense!! if kenwyne played for ah more technical team, like say arsenal, he would be ah goal scoring machine! BTW, how many goals dwight yorke scored for TNT in his prime?
ah could tell yuh he scored ah whole heap for his club! that's BC he was playing along side top players and had good service, but when he played for us, his service was not so great so his goal stats suffered. simple.
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Like a personal duel goin on between Bent & Spurs yes -and particularly between him and Gomes - thas the 3rd penalty save by the latter on him for the season yes.
Kenwyne like he lacks the technical ability, composure and finishing ability to be considered a reliable forward/striker. His game has stagnated a bit since that early promise, and he'd better step his game up if he wants to progress beyond anything more than playing for also ran type teams.
Not beyond the realm of possibility that he might even end up back in the Championship like the other Trinis if he doh start scoring yes - but I suppose it's just as likely that he can carve out a role like Heskey in that event as well.
Nonesense!! if kenwyne played for ah more technical team, like say arsenal, he would be ah goal scoring machine! BTW, how many goals dwight yorke scored for TNT in his prime?
ah could tell yuh he scored ah whole heap for his club! that's BC he was playing along side top players and had good service, but when he played for us, his service was not so great so his goal stats suffered. simple.
Haha well for one ting - getting chances and being prolific aren't the same ting.
Kenwyne is not a good finisher, so even with opportunities he would likely not be deadly - much like Bendtner at Arsenal.
Also, Dwight was a far better player for both Villa and Utd than Kenwyne will ever be. No slight to Kenwyne, but he's just not as talented and is a different type of player.
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I don't know about this season... but in the two seasons before that, only half of his total goals were headers.
I wasn't speaking literally, hence the use of quotes. You insinuated that this was a rare miscue from him, my point being how rare is it if he's hardly ever on target... whether because of a flubbed shot, errant kick or errant header. Some of us want to rate him among the top strikers in England yet all he's produced for Sunderland are 25 goals in 89 appearances. We don't hear about Bent being linked to bigger clubs and some of us don't even rate him on par with Kenwyne yet he already has 22 goals in 33 games for Sunderland. Heck, even his 18 goals in 60 appearances for Tottenham over the two or three seasons he was there is a better scoring clip that Kenwyne's production at Sunderland.
I'm not trying to bring the man down, I think we all want to see Kenwyne do well, for patriotic, professional as well as personal reasons but let's face it he has been enigmatic and inconsitent in his Premier League career thus far, more hype than substance. He's 25 years old, the same age as Bent... how much longer are we going to keep talking about his potential?
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Like a personal duel goin on between Bent & Spurs yes -and particularly between him and Gomes - thas the 3rd penalty save by the latter on him for the season yes.
Kenwyne like he lacks the technical ability, composure and finishing ability to be considered a reliable forward/striker. His game has stagnated a bit since that early promise, and he'd better step his game up if he wants to progress beyond anything more than playing for also ran type teams.
Not beyond the realm of possibility that he might even end up back in the Championship like the other Trinis if he doh start scoring yes - but I suppose it's just as likely that he can carve out a role like Heskey in that event as well.
Nonesense!! if kenwyne played for ah more technical team, like say arsenal, he would be ah goal scoring machine! BTW, how many goals dwight yorke scored for TNT in his prime?
ah could tell yuh he scored ah whole heap for his club! that's BC he was playing along side top players and had good service, but when he played for us, his service was not so great so his goal stats suffered. simple.
Haha well for one ting - getting chances and being prolific aren't the same ting.
Kenwyne is not a good finisher, so even with opportunities he would likely not be deadly - much like Bendtner at Arsenal.
Also, Dwight was a far better player for both Villa and Utd than Kenwyne will ever be. No slight to Kenwyne, but he's just not as talented and is a different type of player.
Have you ever seen jason scotland's finishing, well jason scotland is ah very good finisher, but how many goals he has for the season? oh yeh, he just lost his cherry today (congrats scotty, it's about time),
but KJ does not have the insane touches as scotty and the ball controll that scotty posses, but yet he has more goals, reason, KJ has speed , strong in the air and iz ah better footballer!
football is not always about great skill, but rather about being ah good footballer. KJ understands the game better, and puts himself about better, just an all round good footballer, same for stern and dwight who were good footballer as well, and i believe that's why he's in the prem, and he'll never go back to the champion in a hurry.
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I don't know about this season... but in the two seasons before that, only half of his total goals were headers.
I wasn't speaking literally, hence the use of quotes. You insinuated that this was a rare miscue from him, my point being how rare is it if he's hardly ever on target... whether because of a flubbed shot, errant kick or errant header. Some of us want to rate him among the top strikers in England yet all he's produced for Sunderland are 25 goals in 89 appearances. We don't hear about Bent being linked to bigger clubs and some of us don't even rate him on par with Kenwyne yet he already has 22 goals in 33 games for Sunderland. Heck, even his 18 goals in 60 appearances for Tottenham over the two or three seasons he was there is a better scoring clip that Kenwyne's production at Sunderland.
I'm not trying to bring the man down, I think we all want to see Kenwyne do well, for patriotic, professional as well as personal reasons but let's face it he has been enigmatic and inconsitent in his Premier League career thus far, more hype than substance. He's 25 years old, the same age as Bent... how much longer are we going to keep talking about his potential?
Sharks, yuh can't compare bent with KJ, first off KJ was with ah newly promoted club who had all but championship players (including himself) for almost two seasons with a cherry manager to add insult, despite all that he managed to be top scorer for his team and had the most assist for the two seasons.
the role that KJ had tuh play is not one of ah pure forward , but an attacking mid and a defender all @ the same time, though he played in the front man position,
he had tuh often expend ah shyte load of energy defending to compensate for a disorganize porus defence, and a midfield who rarely held on to possesion let alone got pass the final third. those are not suitable conditions for ah striker to excel, no matter how many starts he has.
so 60 out of them 89 starts was with ah poor serving midfield and an incompetent defence of whom most of the time he had tuh pick up the slack.
bent on the other hand, came into the team with pure premiership players and an experienced manager who does not allow bent to do the dirty work, but rather play the pocher role, and indeed he's the best of pochers. KJ un like bent iz ah laborer, just like carlton cole, john carew, peter crouch, nickolas anelka, saha, adebayor, babel, yuh get my drift?
i think he needs tuh play with a top notch team before we make that judgment. it's still too early for the jury to be out.
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I don't know about this season... but in the two seasons before that, only half of his total goals were headers.
I wasn't speaking literally, hence the use of quotes. You insinuated that this was a rare miscue from him, my point being how rare is it if he's hardly ever on target... whether because of a flubbed shot, errant kick or errant header. Some of us want to rate him among the top strikers in England yet all he's produced for Sunderland are 25 goals in 89 appearances. We don't hear about Bent being linked to bigger clubs and some of us don't even rate him on par with Kenwyne yet he already has 22 goals in 33 games for Sunderland. Heck, even his 18 goals in 60 appearances for Tottenham over the two or three seasons he was there is a better scoring clip that Kenwyne's production at Sunderland.
I'm not trying to bring the man down, I think we all want to see Kenwyne do well, for patriotic, professional as well as personal reasons but let's face it he has been enigmatic and inconsitent in his Premier League career thus far, more hype than substance. He's 25 years old, the same age as Bent... how much longer are we going to keep talking about his potential?
Sharks, yuh can't compare bent with KJ, first off KJ was with ah newly promoted club who had all but championship players (including himself) for almost two seasons with a cherry manager to add insult, despite all that he managed to be top scorer for his team and had the most assist for the two seasons.
the role that KJ had tuh play is not one of ah pure forward , but an attacking mid and a defender all @ the same time, though he played in the front man position,
he had tuh often expend ah shyte load of energy defending to compensate for a disorganize porus defence, and a midfield who rarely held on to possesion let alone got pass the final third. those are not suitable conditions for ah striker to excel, no matter how many starts he has.
so 60 out of them 89 starts was with ah poor serving midfield and an incompetent defence of whom most of the time he had tuh pick up the slack.
bent on the other hand, came into the team with pure premiership players and an experienced manager who does not allow bent to do the dirty work, but rather play the pocher role, and indeed he's the best of pochers. KJ un like bent iz ah laborer, just like carlton cole, john carew, peter crouch, nickolas anelka, saha, adebayor, babel, yuh get my drift?
i think he needs tuh play with a top notch team before we make that judgment. it's still too early for the jury to be out.
I thought was just me who realize this oui! Man talking bout Bent eh need KJ to score as much as he has, maybe is just a coincidence that he score the most goals in any one season in the EPL playing next to KJ. Most of Bent goals comes in the first half when he and KJ usually on the field at the same time. don't believe check the stats yourselves and see. Without KJ on the field his tally is under 10.
On a side note remember when Becks and KJ both got injured around the same time and I mentioned KJ somehow mysteriously could lose his starting spot despite putting in very good performances. Well low and behold shit manager extrodinaire strikes again. Allyuh could keep cryin fuh Beckham still doh!
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I don't know about this season... but in the two seasons before that, only half of his total goals were headers.
I wasn't speaking literally, hence the use of quotes. You insinuated that this was a rare miscue from him, my point being how rare is it if he's hardly ever on target... whether because of a flubbed shot, errant kick or errant header. Some of us want to rate him among the top strikers in England yet all he's produced for Sunderland are 25 goals in 89 appearances. We don't hear about Bent being linked to bigger clubs and some of us don't even rate him on par with Kenwyne yet he already has 22 goals in 33 games for Sunderland. Heck, even his 18 goals in 60 appearances for Tottenham over the two or three seasons he was there is a better scoring clip that Kenwyne's production at Sunderland.
I'm not trying to bring the man down, I think we all want to see Kenwyne do well, for patriotic, professional as well as personal reasons but let's face it he has been enigmatic and inconsitent in his Premier League career thus far, more hype than substance. He's 25 years old, the same age as Bent... how much longer are we going to keep talking about his potential?
Sharks, yuh can't compare bent with KJ, first off KJ was with ah newly promoted club who had all but championship players (including himself) for almost two seasons with a cherry manager to add insult, despite all that he managed to be top scorer for his team and had the most assist for the two seasons.
the role that KJ had tuh play is not one of ah pure forward , but an attacking mid and a defender all @ the same time, though he played in the front man position,
he had tuh often expend ah shyte load of energy defending to compensate for a disorganize porus defence, and a midfield who rarely held on to possesion let alone got pass the final third. those are not suitable conditions for ah striker to excel, no matter how many starts he has.
so 60 out of them 89 starts was with ah poor serving midfield and an incompetent defence of whom most of the time he had tuh pick up the slack.
bent on the other hand, came into the team with pure premiership players and an experienced manager who does not allow bent to do the dirty work, but rather play the pocher role, and indeed he's the best of pochers. KJ un like bent iz ah laborer, just like carlton cole, john carew, peter crouch, nickolas anelka, saha, adebayor, babel, yuh get my drift?
i think he needs tuh play with a top notch team before we make that judgment. it's still too early for the jury to be out.
I thought was just me who realize this oui! Man talking bout Bent eh need KJ to score as much as he has, maybe is just a coincidence that he score the most goals in any one season in the EPL playing next to KJ. Most of Bent goals comes in the first half when he and KJ usually on the field at the same time. don't believe check the stats yourselves and see. Without KJ on the field his tally is under 10.
On a side note remember when Becks and KJ both got injured around the same time and I mentioned KJ somehow mysteriously could lose his starting spot despite putting in very good performances. Well low and behold shit manager extrodinaire strikes again. Allyuh could keep cryin fuh Beckham still doh!
Unfortunately for KJ, Fraizer Campbell decide to get hot after playing shit whole season.
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bent on the other hand, came into the team with pure premiership players and an experienced manager who does not allow bent to do the dirty work, but rather play the pocher role, and indeed he's the best of pochers. KJ un like bent iz ah laborer, just like carlton cole, john carew, peter crouch, nickolas anelka, saha, adebayor, babel, yuh get my drift?
i think he needs tuh play with a top notch team before we make that judgment. it's still too early for the jury to be out.
So now that they both playing on a team with "pure premiership players and an experienced manager"... how do you reconcile the fact that Bent has 22 goals to KJ's 8? We still can't compare them?
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I don't know about this season... but in the two seasons before that, only half of his total goals were headers.
I wasn't speaking literally, hence the use of quotes. You insinuated that this was a rare miscue from him, my point being how rare is it if he's hardly ever on target... whether because of a flubbed shot, errant kick or errant header. Some of us want to rate him among the top strikers in England yet all he's produced for Sunderland are 25 goals in 89 appearances. We don't hear about Bent being linked to bigger clubs and some of us don't even rate him on par with Kenwyne yet he already has 22 goals in 33 games for Sunderland. Heck, even his 18 goals in 60 appearances for Tottenham over the two or three seasons he was there is a better scoring clip that Kenwyne's production at Sunderland.
I'm not trying to bring the man down, I think we all want to see Kenwyne do well, for patriotic, professional as well as personal reasons but let's face it he has been enigmatic and inconsitent in his Premier League career thus far, more hype than substance. He's 25 years old, the same age as Bent... how much longer are we going to keep talking about his potential?
Sharks, yuh can't compare bent with KJ, first off KJ was with ah newly promoted club who had all but championship players (including himself) for almost two seasons with a cherry manager to add insult, despite all that he managed to be top scorer for his team and had the most assist for the two seasons.
the role that KJ had tuh play is not one of ah pure forward , but an attacking mid and a defender all @ the same time, though he played in the front man position,
he had tuh often expend ah shyte load of energy defending to compensate for a disorganize porus defence, and a midfield who rarely held on to possesion let alone got pass the final third. those are not suitable conditions for ah striker to excel, no matter how many starts he has.
so 60 out of them 89 starts was with ah poor serving midfield and an incompetent defence of whom most of the time he had tuh pick up the slack.
bent on the other hand, came into the team with pure premiership players and an experienced manager who does not allow bent to do the dirty work, but rather play the pocher role, and indeed he's the best of pochers. KJ un like bent iz ah laborer, just like carlton cole, john carew, peter crouch, nickolas anelka, saha, adebayor, babel, yuh get my drift?
i think he needs tuh play with a top notch team before we make that judgment. it's still too early for the jury to be out.
I thought was just me who realize this oui! Man talking bout Bent eh need KJ to score as much as he has, maybe is just a coincidence that he score the most goals in any one season in the EPL playing next to KJ. Most of Bent goals comes in the first half when he and KJ usually on the field at the same time. don't believe check the stats yourselves and see. Without KJ on the field his tally is under 10.
On a side note remember when Becks and KJ both got injured around the same time and I mentioned KJ somehow mysteriously could lose his starting spot despite putting in very good performances. Well low and behold shit manager extrodinaire strikes again. Allyuh could keep cryin fuh Beckham still doh!
Unfortunately for KJ, Fraizer Campbell decide to get hot after playing shit whole season.
IMO Campbell has played good most of the time he's been on the pitch so that's not really new. I only hope things stay positive though, because if not then Shit Manager Extrodinaire will want to start on KJ again. I really hope he goes to another club under a better manager. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing him with a team like Everton. I like Moyes and I think if he got a weapon like KJ (despite what people here think of him), he could truly threaten for a CL spot. KJ needs to play with a sensible manager that isn't still finding out about his squad with 7 games to go.
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Like a personal duel goin on between Bent & Spurs yes -and particularly between him and Gomes - thas the 3rd penalty save by the latter on him for the season yes.
Kenwyne like he lacks the technical ability, composure and finishing ability to be considered a reliable forward/striker. His game has stagnated a bit since that early promise, and he'd better step his game up if he wants to progress beyond anything more than playing for also ran type teams.
Not beyond the realm of possibility that he might even end up back in the Championship like the other Trinis if he doh start scoring yes - but I suppose it's just as likely that he can carve out a role like Heskey in that event as well.
Nonesense!! if kenwyne played for ah more technical team, like say arsenal, he would be ah goal scoring machine! BTW, how many goals dwight yorke scored for TNT in his prime?
ah could tell yuh he scored ah whole heap for his club! that's BC he was playing along side top players and had good service, but when he played for us, his service was not so great so his goal stats suffered. simple.
Haha well for one ting - getting chances and being prolific aren't the same ting.
Kenwyne is not a good finisher, so even with opportunities he would likely not be deadly - much like Bendtner at Arsenal.
Also, Dwight was a far better player for both Villa and Utd than Kenwyne will ever be. No slight to Kenwyne, but he's just not as talented and is a different type of player.
Have you ever seen jason scotland's finishing, well jason scotland is ah very good finisher, but how many goals he has for the season? oh yeh, he just lost his cherry today (congrats scotty, it's about time),
but KJ does not have the insane touches as scotty and the ball controll that scotty posses, but yet he has more goals, reason, KJ has speed , strong in the air and iz ah better footballer!
football is not always about great skill, but rather about being ah good footballer. KJ understands the game better, and puts himself about better, just an all round good footballer, same for stern and dwight who were good footballer as well, and i believe that's why he's in the prem, and he'll never go back to the champion in a hurry.
Well personally I don't think - asides from the inferior talent - that Kenwyne has the focus and hunger that Yorke and Stern had in their prime. He's had his injury problems and he doesn't get the best service - but I've seen him try and coast through games, miss sitters and generally not have the discipline in his game to contribute on a consistent basis.
Honestly, if Kenwyne or Scotland weren't Trini I doubt anyone would be giving them the benefit of the doubt and showing the patience that men do on this board. Understandable enough - but from an honest perspective, neither of them are as good as some big them up to be.
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Like a personal duel goin on between Bent & Spurs yes -and particularly between him and Gomes - thas the 3rd penalty save by the latter on him for the season yes.
Kenwyne like he lacks the technical ability, composure and finishing ability to be considered a reliable forward/striker. His game has stagnated a bit since that early promise, and he'd better step his game up if he wants to progress beyond anything more than playing for also ran type teams.
Not beyond the realm of possibility that he might even end up back in the Championship like the other Trinis if he doh start scoring yes - but I suppose it's just as likely that he can carve out a role like Heskey in that event as well.
Nonesense!! if kenwyne played for ah more technical team, like say arsenal, he would be ah goal scoring machine! BTW, how many goals dwight yorke scored for TNT in his prime?
ah could tell yuh he scored ah whole heap for his club! that's BC he was playing along side top players and had good service, but when he played for us, his service was not so great so his goal stats suffered. simple.
Haha well for one ting - getting chances and being prolific aren't the same ting.
Kenwyne is not a good finisher, so even with opportunities he would likely not be deadly - much like Bendtner at Arsenal.
Also, Dwight was a far better player for both Villa and Utd than Kenwyne will ever be. No slight to Kenwyne, but he's just not as talented and is a different type of player.
Have you ever seen jason scotland's finishing, well jason scotland is ah very good finisher, but how many goals he has for the season? oh yeh, he just lost his cherry today (congrats scotty, it's about time),
but KJ does not have the insane touches as scotty and the ball controll that scotty posses, but yet he has more goals, reason, KJ has speed , strong in the air and iz ah better footballer!
football is not always about great skill, but rather about being ah good footballer. KJ understands the game better, and puts himself about better, just an all round good footballer, same for stern and dwight who were good footballer as well, and i believe that's why he's in the prem, and he'll never go back to the champion in a hurry.
Well personally I don't think - asides from the inferior talent - that Kenwyne has the focus and hunger that Yorke and Stern had in their prime. He's had his injury problems and he doesn't get the best service - but I've seen him try and coast through games, miss sitters and generally not have the discipline in his game to contribute on a consistent basis.
Honestly, if Kenwyne or Scotland weren't Trini I doubt anyone would be giving them the benefit of the doubt and showing the patience that men do on this board. Understandable enough - but from an honest perspective, neither of them are as good as some big them up to be.
Breds, since KJ in the prem i've seen damn near all his games, ah make it meh business too, BC i don't know when i will see another trini playing front man in the prem again, and by the looks of it, not soon.
any way, i've seen most of his games in the prem, and ah few in the championship, and i've only seen KJ missed out on very little clear chances, sataurday being one of them, but that's a very rare occurence!
you must be talking bout another KJ! BC he normally don't get many clear chances, and the ones he get, he normally converts.
on the other hand, cole, berber, anelka, saha , bent, zamora, tevez, they all miss clear cut chance, far more than KJ does, as ah matter of fact, he probably misses the least and maybe that's why he always gets marked out of games.
BTW, did you watch the game against wigan / stoke, he was so battered by the defender that even the commentators were calling for a penalty! the man was literally battered down for the whole match! now tell me, which other striker gets beaten up like that except drogba??
not taking anything away from darren bent, the man is ah pure forward, and some of his goals were amazing, but most of them were tap ins and penalties as well. point is, the fella has ah great sense of positioning, and that's why his tally is so high, he also benefit off a hard worker, do you know who that worker iz?
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not taking anything away from darren bent, the man is ah pure forward, and some of his goals were amazing, but most of them were tap ins and penalties as well. point is, the fella has ah great sense of positioning, and that's why his tally is so high, he also benefit off a hard worker, do you know who that worker iz?
All man ha to do is look at Bent stats and they will see tangible proof of KJs impact. The majority of Bent's goals have been scored in the first half. Matter of fact within the first 25 minutes. And guess who was his partner in most of those games? The same KJ man on here refuse to give credit. Funny some ah allyuh like England squad and a man like Capello love Heskey and the attention he draws and this fella cah shoot ah beach ball in de ocean. Doh geh me wrong I like Heskey but imagine if Heskey could finish chances half as well as KJ and was an aerial juggernaut as our KJ is. England just might be unstoppable. Man on here jus like to rag on de fella because he doh move at the pace allyuh decide he should. Oddly enough with all his short comings he's drawn interest from 2 previous managers and one at a perrenial CL contender. Yeah he is rell shit boi!!!
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All man ha to do is look at Bent stats and they will see tangible proof of KJs impact. The majority of Bent's goals have been scored in the first half. Matter of fact within the first 25 minutes. And guess who was his partner in most of those games? The same KJ man on here refuse to give credit. Funny some ah allyuh like England squad and a man like Capello love Heskey and the attention he draws and this fella cah shoot ah beach ball in de ocean. Doh geh me wrong I like Heskey but imagine if Heskey could finish chances half as well as KJ and was an aerial juggernaut as our KJ is. England just might be unstoppable. Man on here jus like to rag on de fella because he doh move at the pace allyuh decide he should. Oddly enough with all his short comings he's drawn interest from 2 previous managers and one at a perrenial CL contender. Yeah he is rell shit boi!!!
KJ is not the type of player that excites the typical Trini football fan. Not that he isn't a good player, but we look for something different in a player- it's the kind of mentality that if it isn't flexible enough can hamper someone's outlook on the game, and cause unfair biases- that said, it's our culture and it's the same in some other cultures too. Me personally, I doh rate KJ that highly as a player - I big him up tuh everyone I know under a Trini bias- Sunderland's football also has the personality of a dead fish, so that doesn't help the cause....Objectively speaking though he's not that special at the EPL level- he just isn't. And you could dabble in stats all yuh want, based on this season's performances, fair or not, Darren Bent is Sunderland's MVP from an attacking standpoint. Given KJ's natural attributes, I'm intrigued to see what he would be capable of on a better team but it's somewhat of a catch -22 because his performances don't really (at least not consistently) scream that he's big team quality.
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KJ is not the type of player that excites the typical Trini football fan. Not that he isn't a good player, but we look for something different in a player- it's the kind of mentality that if it isn't flexible enough can hamper someone's outlook on the game, and cause unfair biases- that said, it's our culture and it's the same in some other cultures too. Me personally, I doh rate KJ that highly as a player - I big him up tuh everyone I know under a Trini bias- Sunderland's football also has the personality of a dead fish, so that doesn't help the cause....Objectively speaking though he's not that special at the EPL level- he just isn't. And you could dabble in stats all yuh want, based on this season's performances, fair or not, Darren Bent is Sunderland's MVP from an attacking standpoint. Given KJ's natural attributes, I'm intrigued to see what he would be capable of on a better team but it's somewhat of a catch -22 because his performances don't really (at least not consistently) scream that he's big team quality.
Good managers does improve players. Being in a good team environment helps to improve players. So I have no doubt that KJ would look better playing with a better team for a better manager. As for Bent, you think it's a coincidence that Bent shining like a superstar with Sunderland even though he was only decent at Spurs not spectacular. You think it's also coincidence that he is now the true striker as opposed to the target man that he's flourished? I will not insult the players ability because he is a very good finisher but to talk as if his #s are purely because of his abilities would be at minimum misleading. If you exclude the penalties and look at the games where he scored during play whether you care about stats or not, KJ is a big part of the equation. If all KJ had to concentrate on was attacking I'm extremely confident he would score much more. Now although this comparison lacks in some areas consider this. Capello's main gripe with Rooney was his stubborness to stay in an offensive shape and position on the field. Now since Rooney has improved in that area his production has almost doubled. Now again KJ eh Rooney I know but if he was left to focus on scoring I think he could score about 17,18 a season. Just not with that shit team he plays for tho.
I agree he isn't the typical player type that Trinbagonians like, but he is still our most covetted and best current performer at the highest level of club football playing in one of the very best leagues in the world. I sure nuff people here disappointed that Scotty eh score even 20% as much as KJ because they were waiting to say "see even Scotty come from the Championship and out performing him, KJ is shit" The man is a good player and has every right to be where he is. Pound for pound he often produces just as much and sometimes better than people we rate miles above him. Take peter crouch for instance, touches galore and can finish very well in the air. Bigger name player with a much much better team, yet he still eh score as much as KJ. Does he belong in the EPL?
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imo, and for the hundredth time it eh making no sense comparing KJ with Bent..
All this "look how much goals bent score" talk is ignoring that they are different players with different roles that function in different ways.
Bent is a poacher and an excellent finisher with a special talent for shining in shit teams when he can forage up front for scraps with minimal service. He did it with Charlton when he score over 20 goals in a season when his team was relegated. He couldn't do it with Spurs when he had to compete with good strikers in a good team that played quality football. KJ suits Bent's strengths because he can batter opposing defenders, take up attention and create space for Bent to finish.
If Bent is Pippen, KJ is Horace Grant.
KJ role is to use his height and strength to dominate in the air and hold up the play to get others involved. Admittedly, his play with the ball at his feet could be much better.. His running off the ball also needs work.. He is not the finished product, but how de feck he supposed to reach there playing in a side like Sunderland under Bruce that just want to play a setta long ball? I can't understand that brand, look at how Sunderland try to settle the ball and play some football in the last 4 or 5 games and actually seeing results.
The point is they are both different strikers with different roles.. As was pointed out before, even if he not hitting 20 goals a season, neither are Heskey, Carew, Crouch, Adebayor and other similar strikers that operate in the role.. Hell even Anelka eh scoring.
Doh knock KJ, because anyhow yuh cut it he is the most accomplished T&T player in European football since Yorke.
Trust me.. Put KJ in a Aston Villa or Arsenal operating in the same role and I am convinced we go see something special.
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Good managers does improve players. Being in a good team environment helps to improve players. So I have no doubt that KJ would look better playing with a better team for a better manager. As for Bent, you think it's a coincidence that Bent shining like a superstar with Sunderland even though he was only decent at Spurs not spectacular. You think it's also coincidence that he is now the true striker as opposed to the target man that he's flourished? I will not insult the players ability because he is a very good finisher but to talk as if his #s are purely because of his abilities would be at minimum misleading. If you exclude the penalties and look at the games where he scored during play whether you care about stats or not, KJ is a big part of the equation. If all KJ had to concentrate on was attacking I'm extremely confident he would score much more. Now although this comparison lacks in some areas consider this. Capello's main gripe with Rooney was his stubborness to stay in an offensive shape and position on the field. Now since Rooney has improved in that area his production has almost doubled. Now again KJ eh Rooney I know but if he was left to focus on scoring I think he could score about 17,18 a season. Just not with that shit team he plays for tho.
I agree he isn't the typical player type that Trinbagonians like, but he is still our most covetted and best current performer at the highest level of club football playing in one of the very best leagues in the world. I sure nuff people here disappointed that Scotty eh score even 20% as much as KJ because they were waiting to say "see even Scotty come from the Championship and out performing him, KJ is shit" The man is a good player and has every right to be where he is. Pound for pound he often produces just as much and sometimes better than people we rate miles above him. Take peter crouch for instance, touches galore and can finish very well in the air. Bigger name player with a much much better team, yet he still eh score as much as KJ. Does he belong in the EPL?
I think what you're saying is that KJ's role in the current set up is more of a supporting role for Bent, so people shouldn't expect much more as far as goals go, and that alot of KJ's hard work goes unnoticed- fair enough...true or not, I could accept that.
I dunno who here honestly was hoping for Scotland to rip up the EPL in order to bash KJ, and I haven't seen anything said to support that, and I haven't seen any claims (or not significant) that KJ doesn't belong in the EPL. I think yuh taking criticisms of KJ too personally. I believe people want to see KJ play well, and when he's not scoring or doing the things that excite T&T fans (which is just not part of his game), it's tough for the average viewer to appreciate his contributions- what yuh hearing from the detractors is mostly frustration because of that.
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imo, and for the hundredth time it eh making no sense comparing KJ with Bent..
All this "look how much goals bent score" talk is ignoring that they are different players with different roles that function in different ways.
Bent is a poacher and an excellent finisher with a special talent for shining in shit teams when he can forage up front for scraps with minimal service. He did it with Charlton when he score over 20 goals in a season when his team was relegated. He couldn't do it with Spurs when he had to compete with good strikers in a good team that played quality football. KJ suits Bent's strengths because he can batter opposing defenders, take up attention and create space for Bent to finish.
If Bent is Pippen, KJ is Horace Grant.
KJ role is to use his height and strength to dominate in the air and hold up the play to get others involved. Admittedly, his play with the ball at his feet could be much better.. His running off the ball also needs work.. He is not the finished product, but how de feck he supposed to reach there playing in a side like Sunderland under Bruce that just want to play a setta long ball? I can't understand that brand, look at how Sunderland try to settle the ball and play some football in the last 4 or 5 games and actually seeing results.
The point is they are both different strikers with different roles.. As was pointed out before, even if he not hitting 20 goals a season, neither are Heskey, Carew, Crouch, Adebayor and other similar strikers that operate in the role.. Hell even Anelka eh scoring.
Doh knock KJ, because anyhow yuh cut it he is the most accomplished T&T player in European football since Yorke.
Trust me.. Put KJ in a Aston Villa or Arsenal operating in the same role and I am convinced we go see something special.
When it comes to strikers, the goal scorers get the love -unfair but it's true....remember this is a fan site.
Even you have branded Heskey, Crouch and Adebayor as shittongs in the past...where all this consideration for differing roles come from now? ;)
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imo, and for the hundredth time it eh making no sense comparing KJ with Bent..
All this "look how much goals bent score" talk is ignoring that they are different players with different roles that function in different ways.
Bent is a poacher and an excellent finisher with a special talent for shining in shit teams when he can forage up front for scraps with minimal service. He did it with Charlton when he score over 20 goals in a season when his team was relegated. He couldn't do it with Spurs when he had to compete with good strikers in a good team that played quality football. KJ suits Bent's strengths because he can batter opposing defenders, take up attention and create space for Bent to finish.
If Bent is Pippen, KJ is Horace Grant.
KJ role is to use his height and strength to dominate in the air and hold up the play to get others involved. Admittedly, his play with the ball at his feet could be much better.. His running off the ball also needs work.. He is not the finished product, but how de feck he supposed to reach there playing in a side like Sunderland under Bruce that just want to play a setta long ball? I can't understand that brand, look at how Sunderland try to settle the ball and play some football in the last 4 or 5 games and actually seeing results.
The point is they are both different strikers with different roles.. As was pointed out before, even if he not hitting 20 goals a season, neither are Heskey, Carew, Crouch, Adebayor and other similar strikers that operate in the role.. Hell even Anelka eh scoring.
Doh knock KJ, because anyhow yuh cut it he is the most accomplished T&T player in European football since Yorke.
Trust me.. Put KJ in a Aston Villa or Arsenal operating in the same role and I am convinced we go see something special.
When it comes to strikers, the goal scorers get the love -unfair but it's true....remember this is a fan site.
Even you have branded Heskey, Crouch and Adebayor as shittongs in the past...where all this consideration for differing roles come from now? ;)
oh gawd kicker, yuh had to come and blow up meh spot like that? lol
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I think what you're saying is that KJ's role in the current set up is more of a supporting role for Bent, so people shouldn't expect much more as far as goals go, and that alot of KJ's hard work goes unnoticed- fair enough...true or not, I could accept that.
I dunno who here honestly was hoping for Scotland to rip up the EPL in order to bash KJ, and I haven't seen anything said to support that, and I haven't seen any claims (or not significant) that KJ doesn't belong in the EPL. I think yuh taking criticisms of KJ too personally. I believe people want to see KJ play well, and when he's not scoring or doing the things that excite T&T fans (which is just not part of his game), it's tough for the average viewer to appreciate his contributions- what yuh hearing from the detractors is mostly frustration because of that.
Nah I eh takin it personal cause I eh ha no vested interest in KJ (other than supporting a fellow Trinbagonian and St. Anthony's alum). I does call it as I interpret it and my writing style is very passionate so I can understand it appearing personal but it really isn't. The thing I mentioned about man waiting fuh Scotty to shine in order to pong KJ isn't based on anything recent because obviously people would seem like true jackasses. But make no mistake I was observing all the chatter over the course of our failed campaign when Scotty was tearing up the Championship. It had people insinuating Scotty because of his exploits there would do better than KJ in the prem. I am secure in the thought that they are secretly disappointed not for Scotty's sake but because that potential comparison is now and likely forever nullified.
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Well KJ and Bent both have something in common...they both play for one of the shittiest sides in 'top-flight' football.
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Well KJ and Bent both have something in common...they both play for one of the shittiest sides in 'top-flight' football.
Agreed! :beermug:
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Bruce reveals Kuranyi interest
April 9, 2010 - ESPN Soccernet
Sunderland boss Steve Bruce is ready to renew his interest in Schalke striker Kevin Kuranyi - but he knows he will not be alone.
Kevin Kuranyi made only one appearance in World Cup qualifying for Germany
Kuranyi, 28, is out of contract in the summer and Bruce, who made an inquiry about him in January, has admitted the prospect of snapping up a player of his stature on a Bosman deal is too tempting to be ignored.
However, the Black Cats are well aware that they will find themselves in a lengthy queue despite Kuranyi's wage demands, which various reports have suggested could range from around £3.5 million a season to almost twice that.
Schalke, for whom Kuranyi has scored 18 league goals this season, are currently in second place in the Bundesliga, a point adrift of Manchester United's midweek Champions League quarter-final conquerors Bayern Munich.
Bruce, who dismissed speculation he could make a £15 million bid for Udinese's Italy winger Simone Pepe, said: "Kevin Kuranyi will be linked with every top club in Europe.
"Let's be fair, he's a fantastic player who is playing for a club which is trying to win the Bundesliga.
"As everybody knows out there, he is the most outstanding Bosman signing probably in Europe, so I would think there must be 25 clubs looking for his signature - and I can confirm we would be interested, of course we would.
"But we all know we are up against it because of how big the personality is and how big the player is.
"What we are trying to do is improve, but it's not just going to be, I wouldn't have thought, a bottomless pit. But for a Bosman like that, we have got to be interested."
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West Ham v Sunderland KO 3.00 GMT
Only 2 EPL games this afternoon so likely to get a link (unfortunately).
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=71117&part=sports
http://iraqgoals.tv/ch4.html
http://atdhe.net/17009/watch-west-ham-united-vs-sunderland
http://www.p2p4u.net/
Team News
TEAM NEWS
Who's in, who's out?
Sunderland will be without George McCartney, Andy Reid (both hamstring) and John Mensah (calf). Lorik Cana (groin) and Michael Turner (hamstring) are doubtful, while Alan Hutton (hip) faces a late test.
Guillermo Franco is doubtful for West Ham, Alessandro Diamanti will undergo a late check and Scott Parker is banned. Luis Boa Morte, Jack Collison, Zavon Hines, Herita Ilunga, Kieron Dyer and James Tomkins are also missing.
Haven't a clue which team is going to turn up or not (usual case away from home) so your guess is as good as mine.
Have a nice weekend.
Well KJ and Bent both have something in common...they both play for one of the shittiest sides in 'top-flight' football.
Agreed! :beermug:
The reality of the EPL any team taht is not top 8 is capable of being relegated in any season due to bad runs, injuries, poor form or management. Much of a muchness tbh.
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Watching Bent's movement and judging by his scoring consistency I think he is a better bet than both Crouch and Heskey. It would be interesting to see him play with a playmaker supporting him
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Watching Bent's movement and judging by his scoring consistency I think he is a better bet than both Crouch and Heskey. It would be interesting to see him play with a playmaker supporting him
Crouch and Heskey play different roles than Bent. They tend to play a support role, using their size to hold up the ball and lay off to the other striker whereas Bent needs to be the point of the attack and can't play the support role if forced into that role.
A quality playmaker behind him would certainly help his strike rate but it's more important that he doesn't have another quality striker challenging his spot on the field.
Frankly I think he one of those players that lacks the fortitude to fight for his place and loses confidence easily. He'll perform better in a poor team where he's the first choice striker (like he was at Charlton) than in the rotation of a quality team.
How many quality playmakers will join a team in the lower half of the premier league though? Hard enough to get quality players if you're outside the top four.
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Poor away performance as usual but thats the level, again bewildered by Bruce, what can I say.
Watching Bent's movement and judging by his scoring consistency I think he is a better bet than both Crouch and Heskey. It would be interesting to see him play with a playmaker supporting him
Crouch and Heskey play different roles than Bent. They tend to play a support role, using their size to hold up the ball and lay off to the other striker whereas Bent needs to be the point of the attack and can't play the support role if forced into that role.
A quality playmaker behind him would certainly help his strike rate but it's more important that he doesn't have another quality striker challenging his spot on the field.
Frankly I think he one of those players that lacks the fortitude to fight for his place and loses confidence easily. He'll perform better in a poor team where he's the first choice striker (like he was at Charlton) than in the rotation of a quality team.
How many quality playmakers will join a team in the lower half of the premier league though? Hard enough to get quality players if you're outside the top four.
Sort of agree with this, Bent will score goals but works on confidence he needs an arm around him 1st choice etc. Think he would do better with a playmaker also a team that creates more chances as he is a "poacher" and his instinct would get more goals.
Strangely he is also better off a target man, its well documented he doesn't like playing the role himself and with West Ham's defence not being great in the air makes Bruce's decision leaving Kenwyne out or taking so long to put him on even stranger.
It has been plain in my opinion for a very long time Bruce doesn't really want Kenwyne for whatever reason and would prefer a different "target man", but he is only detracting from the team and Kenwyne's value in the summer by leaving him on the bench. What do I know, I'm only a fan.
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Sunderland v Burnley KO 3.00 PM GMT
Only a couple of channels screening it so may struggle to find a working link.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=71959&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
http://www.p2p4u.net/
I gave in a while ago trying to predict which team will turn up, so haven't a clue what will happen. Bruce should play Kenwyne, even if Campbell is/was fit.
TEAM NEWS
Who's in, who's out?
Sunderland are hoping John Mensah and Lorik Cana will be fit to play, but Steve Bruce is unlikely to risk Lorik Cana (hip) while Fraizer Campbell is suffering from an illness. Andy Reid (hamstring) is definitely out, but Alan Hutton is fit.
Burnley boss Brian Laws will select from the same squad which won 4-1 last week. Stephen Jordan is doubtful with a knee injury, while Chris McCann (also knee) is sidelined.
Have a nice weekend everybody.
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KJ had another good goaless perfomance. the most banged up battered forward in the prem.
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KJ learning to shoot and should be a good striker for TT in time.
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A bit of a typical end of season game, just plodded through it really.
Kenwyne had quite a good game to be fair.
Hull next Saturday
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Hull v Sunderland KO 3.00 GMT
Hull is all bar relegated so just depends what team turns up, as previous give in trying to guess.
Its on a couple of channels so may get a working link.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=72947&part=sports
http://iraqgoals.tv/ch6.html
http://atdhe.net/17979/watch-hull-city-vs-sunderland
TEAM NEWS
Who's in, who's out?
Lorik Cana could return for Sunderland after beating a hip problem, but Lee Cattermole is unlikely to be risked and John Mensah will definitely miss out. Andy Reid (hamstring) is out for the rest of the season, as is George McCartney (hamstring).
Anthony Gardner could return for Hull, but Dean Marney (illness) and Bernard Mendy (hamstring) are doubtful. Ian Ashbee, Richard Garcia, Kamil Zayatte, Caleb Folan, Stephen Hunt and Jan Venegoor of Hesselink are all missing.
Hope all have a good day.
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Altidore catch ah vaps and the ref bottled it by sending off Hutton.
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KJ playin like ah fella from ManU getting ah tryout with ah next EPL team, even if he eh make, he contract good...The reason why Bent scores is because the fella does play like he have something to prove...KJ looking like he doh have nuthen to prove,everything fix ahready....and I like him eh ? but more than ever today, ah seeing the potential to be great all them managers talking bout, I thought we woulda get it this year, but it has been ah trying last few years...Bad knee does do that to the best...ah doh know if yuh up to that, but I will applaud the achievement still...make yuh memoirs KJ
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Another poor game really, ref had a mare and was all over the place all the match.
Ah well 2 left and summer signings to look forward to, unfortunately still have Bruce.KJ playin like ah fella from ManU getting ah tryout with ah next EPL team, even if he eh make, he contract good...The reason why Bent scores is because the fella does play like he have something to prove...KJ looking like he doh have nuthen to prove,everything fix ahready....and I like him eh ? but more than ever today, ah seeing the potential to be great all them managers talking bout, I thought we woulda get it this year, but it has been ah trying last few years...Bad knee does do that to the best...ah doh know if yuh up to that, but I will applaud the achievement still...make yuh memoirs KJ
I really can't see him at the club next season, Bruce has handled him badly imho, but asked a similar question last season. No matter what happens I have nothing but thanks for him and wish him well, the only thing he has ever done wrong was the last week of last season when said he was off if we were relegated, fans don't forget that quickly, still don't understand why as no need and he has always been very careful about what he says around his future.
Think he needs a move now and needs competition for his place as a must, if he moves I would expect to see an upturn in form, how permanent that will turn out to be remains to be seen, but to be fair he has been better lately.
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Sunderland v Manu KO 4.00 PM GMT
Should be an interesting match as Manu have to go for it, while we have a suspect (well poor) defence and nothing really to play for so just wait and see.
TEAM NEWS
Who's in, who's out?
Sunderland will be without Andy Reid (calf) and George McCartney (hamstring), while Alan Hutton is suspended. John Mensah faces a late check, but Lorik Cana, Michael Turner and Lee Cattermole are all fit.
Rio Ferdinand and Wayne Rooney (both groin) could come back into contention for United, but Gary Neville is doubtful with a calf injury and Michael Owen (hamstring) and Anderson (knee) will miss out.
Its on stacks of channels so working links should not be a problem
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=72963&part=sports
http://atdhe.net/
http://www.iraqgoals.net/
Hope you all had a nice weekend
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look like kj ride pine. how the game look?
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look like kj ride pine. how the game look?
Really an easy game for Manu, we very rarely threatened and should of been more than 1-0.
Its been obvious for a long time that Bruce doesn't really want Kenwyne for whatever reason and I find his team, tactics subs strange.
Felt a bit sorry for the young lad Meyler with his knee injury. Started off looking nervous / overawed then settled and had to come off, its a shame because he would of learnt a lot yesterday had he stayed on and would of only did him good in the long run. Looks like he has done his knee and will be out for a good while.
Last game against Wolves away all matches in the EPL are Sunday 4.00 kickoffs.
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look like kj ride pine. how the game look?
Really an easy game for Manu, we very rarely threatened and should of been more than 1-0.
Its been obvious for a long time that Bruce doesn't really want Kenwyne for whatever reason and I find his team, tactics subs strange.
Felt a bit sorry for the young lad Meyler with his knee injury. Started off looking nervous / overawed then settled and had to come off, its a shame because he would of learnt a lot yesterday had he stayed on and would of only did him good in the long run. Looks like he has done his knee and will be out for a good while.
Last game against Wolves away all matches in the EPL are Sunday 4.00 kickoffs.
Bruce has to be the dumbest manager in the EPL. Recent history has shown that of the usual big 4, KJ performs best against Man U and has goals in consecutive seasons to prove it. Why would any manager leave that on the bench? I really hope KJ moves on to a better situation because despite the apparent cluelessness of shit coach extrodinaire he did improve their place in the table so Quinn likely keepin dat hong!!
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look like kj ride pine. how the game look?
Really an easy game for Manu, we very rarely threatened and should of been more than 1-0.
Its been obvious for a long time that Bruce doesn't really want Kenwyne for whatever reason and I find his team, tactics subs strange.
Felt a bit sorry for the young lad Meyler with his knee injury. Started off looking nervous / overawed then settled and had to come off, its a shame because he would of learnt a lot yesterday had he stayed on and would of only did him good in the long run. Looks like he has done his knee and will be out for a good while.
Last game against Wolves away all matches in the EPL are Sunday 4.00 kickoffs.
Bruce has to be the dumbest manager in the EPL. Recent history has shown that of the usual big 4, KJ performs best against Man U and has goals in consecutive seasons to prove it. Why would any manager leave that on the bench? I really hope KJ moves on to a better situation because despite the apparent cluelessness of shit coach extrodinaire he did improve their place in the table so Quinn likely keepin dat hong!!
Beginning to get de feeling dat he will be moved this summer so you may not have to worry. Maybe we'll finally get to see a Trini playing fuh Liverpool ;-)
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"arry is the best coach for KJ. . .maybe Tottnham
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"arry is the best coach for KJ. . .maybe Tottnham
Worst place he could go for someone like Kenwyne, he would be great when he was good then comments like ala Bent as soon as his form dropped. Villa would be his best bet with O'Neill who would get the best out of him, if anybody can. Maybe Kenwyne needs someone like Keane pushing him all the time.
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Wolves v Sunderland 4.00 KO.
All reprieved as the channels are only showing relevant games to the title so no working links today I should think.
Haven't a clue whether Kenwyne will play I suspect not, why God only knows.
Meyler has done his knee so could be out for upto a year shame for the lad.
Apparently very close to signing Riveros from Mexican outfit Cruz Azul on a free transfer no doubt a couple on here will have some idea what he is like, would be grateful if you would me know because I haven't a scooby. I have come to the conclusion the club like Bruce so much because of his transfer dealings as it can't be his beautiful football or coaching.
Hope you all had a nice weekend and your team had a good season.
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Jonesssssss!!!!
7:10 GOAL - Kenwyne Jones :
Wolverhampton 0 - 1 Sunderland Kenwyne Jones scores a goal from just outside the area to the bottom left corner of the goal. Wolverhampton 0-1 Sunderland.
Assist on the goal came from Fraizer Campbell.
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Jonesssssss!!!!
7:10 GOAL - Kenwyne Jones :
Wolverhampton 0 - 1 Sunderland Kenwyne Jones scores a goal from just outside the area to the bottom left corner of the goal. Wolverhampton 0-1 Sunderland.
Assist on the goal came from Fraizer Campbell.
And now Bruce have him playing CB apparently.
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2-1 Wolves, 2 men sent off finished with 9 on the pitch.
More weird subs, formations and yes had Kenwyne at CB, bet Da Silva is pleased with that.
See my post above re bruce ???
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2-1 Wolves, 2 men sent off finished with 9 on the pitch.
More weird subs, formations and yes had Kenwyne at CB, bet Da Silva is pleased with that.
See my post above re bruce ???
This team really grew on me, and like the passion the fans display towards this team, it's ah real diehard fighting never get weary attitude that i wish TNT ppl had towards the game, but unfortunately not the case.
i'm also greatful to the club for the opportunities given to our boys by quin and keane @ top flight foot ball, especially one of my favorite local players kenwyne jones, but i don't know if i could support this team with bruce @ the helm! this man is as clueless as ricky sbrasia/ spraja or what ever his name is.
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Well done Darren Bent on the England call up... Yuh just cyar deny 24 in 38! Hope he makes the final cut.
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Well done Darren Bent on the England call up... Yuh just cyar deny 24 in 38! Hope he makes the final cut.
He is a shitsnake and like most of England's offensive players will be in over his head when he plays against quality opposition!
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Well done Darren Bent on the England call up... Yuh just cyar deny 24 in 38! Hope he makes the final cut.
He is a shitsnake and like most of England's offensive players will be in over his head when he plays against quality opposition!
That may be so (on the world stage)...but it still does not take away from the fact that de man deserves de call.
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Well done Darren Bent on the England call up... Yuh just cyar deny 24 in 38! Hope he makes the final cut.
He is a shitsnake and like most of England's offensive players will be in over his head when he plays against quality opposition!
That may be so (on the world stage)...but it still does not take away from the fact that de man deserves de call.
Ok-I hear yuh.
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Well done Darren Bent on the England call up... Yuh just cyar deny 24 in 38! Hope he makes the final cut.
He is a shitsnake and like most of England's offensive players will be in over his head when he plays against quality opposition!
I wouldnt go as far as to say he is a shitsnake.. but yeah, he eh up to international grade.
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Black Cats sign Paraguay midfielder.
Sportinglife.com
Sunderland manager Steve Bruce has made his first summer signing by completing a deal to bring Paraguay international Cristian Riveros to Wearside.
The 27-year-old midfielder, who has been playing his club football in Mexico with Cruz Azul, has put pen to paper on a three-year contract.
Bruce said: "We have been monitoring Cristian for a while now, so I'm delighted to have concluded a deal which will bring him to Sunderland and the Barclays Premier League.
"He is a very creative midfielder and a player that will enhance our attacking options from wide positions for next season."
Bruce revealed last week that he was quoted £12million for Riveros when he first tried to sign him during his time at Wigan, although details of any fee have not been released.
The midfielder - full name Cristian Miguel Riveros Nunez - joins compatriot Paulo da Silva at the Stadium of Light, and both men are expected to go to the World Cup finals with Paraguay this summer.
Riveros moved to Cruz Azul in July 2007 after spending his formative years in the game in his native country, by whom he has been capped 45 times and scored eight goals.
He said: "The league is very competitive and Sunderland have shown trust in me as a person and as a footballer.
"The history here is good and I'm delighted to be joining the club."
Bruce said on Friday he hoped to push through the deal within a week, and spoke highly of the player.
He said: "We have been working a long time on Riveros. I tried to sign him two years ago - I was quoted £12million and couldn't afford him.
"He's a middle of midfield player who can play on either side as well and something different to what we have got."
Bruce has prospered in the Central and South American markets in recent years with the likes of Wilson Palacios, Antonio Valencia and Maynor Figueroa, but admits it often takes imports from that part of the world time to settle into the English game.
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2-1 Wolves, 2 men sent off finished with 9 on the pitch.
More weird subs, formations and yes had Kenwyne at CB, bet Da Silva is pleased with that.
See my post above re bruce ???
This team really grew on me, and like the passion the fans display towards this team, it's ah real diehard fighting never get weary attitude that i wish TNT ppl had towards the game, but unfortunately not the case.
i'm also greatful to the club for the opportunities given to our boys by quin and keane @ top flight foot ball, especially one of my favorite local players kenwyne jones, but i don't know if i could support this team with bruce @ the helm! this man is as clueless as ricky sbrasia/ spraja or what ever his name is.
Ditto. I agree with you about the fans and the general spirit of Sunderland. I have grown to like the team. I have seen all the Sunderland games that were available on FSC. Not sure that Bruce is all that bad.
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2-1 Wolves, 2 men sent off finished with 9 on the pitch.
More weird subs, formations and yes had Kenwyne at CB, bet Da Silva is pleased with that.
See my post above re bruce ???
This team really grew on me, and like the passion the fans display towards this team, it's ah real diehard fighting never get weary attitude that i wish TNT ppl had towards the game, but unfortunately not the case.
i'm also greatful to the club for the opportunities given to our boys by quin and keane @ top flight foot ball, especially one of my favorite local players kenwyne jones, but i don't know if i could support this team with bruce @ the helm! this man is as clueless as ricky sbrasia/ spraja or what ever his name is.
Ditto. I agree with you about the fans and the general spirit of Sunderland. I have grown to like the team. I have seen all the Sunderland games that were available on FSC. Not sure that Bruce is all that bad.
I sure
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2-1 Wolves, 2 men sent off finished with 9 on the pitch.
More weird subs, formations and yes had Kenwyne at CB, bet Da Silva is pleased with that.
See my post above re bruce ???
This team really grew on me, and like the passion the fans display towards this team, it's ah real diehard fighting never get weary attitude that i wish TNT ppl had towards the game, but unfortunately not the case.
i'm also greatful to the club for the opportunities given to our boys by quin and keane @ top flight foot ball, especially one of my favorite local players kenwyne jones, but i don't know if i could support this team with bruce @ the helm! this man is as clueless as ricky sbrasia/ spraja or what ever his name is.
Ditto. I agree with you about the fans and the general spirit of Sunderland. I have grown to like the team. I have seen all the Sunderland games that were available on FSC. Not sure that Bruce is all that bad.
I sure
Ent!! Dat clueless shit coach!! ::)
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Last Chance Saloon:
Kenwyne Jones – 28 goals in three seasons at Sunderland is not particularly impressive, especially when taking into account the fact that Darren Bent got 25 last season alone. There are other aspects of Jones’ games which make him valuable – hence Liverpool’s interest last January – but he needs to start showing them more regularly if the £11m price tag attributed to him not so long ago is to be at all justified.
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Sunderland keen on signing Ghanaian trio
Ghanasoccernet.com
English Premier League side Sunderland have entered the race for Asamoah Gyan in a bold bid to reunite three members of Ghana’s World Cup squad.
The Rennes striker, who missed the last-minute penalty in his country’s quarter final defeat to Uruguay last Friday, which ended in penalty shoot-out heartache, has been heavily linked with a move to West Ham.
But the Hammers have put that deal on hold while juggling other targets such as Nice striker Loic Remy.
Sunderland manager Steve Bruce has a healthy summer budget and could match Rennes’ £7million valuation of Gyan.
Bruce is still hopeful he can secure a deal for Gyan’s Ghana captain John Mensah, who has been linked with a move to Hamburg, after a successful season on loan at the Stadium of Light and has expressed an interest in taking AC Milan’s Ghana striker Dominic Adiyiah, 20.
Gyan, who played much of the tournament alone up front, finished with three goals and also scored in the fateful shoot-out.
His strong performances leading the line alerted several clubs across the continent. Sunderland are also competing with West Ham for Algeria defender Rafik Halliche, 21, who is available for around £1.2m from Benfica.
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Sunderland keen on signing Ghanaian trio
Ghanasoccernet.com
English Premier League side Sunderland have entered the race for Asamoah Gyan in a bold bid to reunite three members of Ghana’s World Cup squad.
The Rennes striker, who missed the last-minute penalty in his country’s quarter final defeat to Uruguay last Friday, which ended in penalty shoot-out heartache, has been heavily linked with a move to West Ham.
But the Hammers have put that deal on hold while juggling other targets such as Nice striker Loic Remy.
Sunderland manager Steve Bruce has a healthy summer budget and could match Rennes’ £7million valuation of Gyan.
Bruce is still hopeful he can secure a deal for Gyan’s Ghana captain John Mensah, who has been linked with a move to Hamburg, after a successful season on loan at the Stadium of Light and has expressed an interest in taking AC Milan’s Ghana striker Dominic Adiyiah, 20.
Gyan, who played much of the tournament alone up front, finished with three goals and also scored in the fateful shoot-out.
His strong performances leading the line alerted several clubs across the continent. Sunderland are also competing with West Ham for Algeria defender Rafik Halliche, 21, who is available for around £1.2m from Benfica.
Doesn't Gyan play for Udinese? And he only costing 7M pounds??
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Sunderland keen on signing Ghanaian trio
Ghanasoccernet.com
English Premier League side Sunderland have entered the race for Asamoah Gyan in a bold bid to reunite three members of Ghana’s World Cup squad.
The Rennes striker, who missed the last-minute penalty in his country’s quarter final defeat to Uruguay last Friday, which ended in penalty shoot-out heartache, has been heavily linked with a move to West Ham.
But the Hammers have put that deal on hold while juggling other targets such as Nice striker Loic Remy.
Sunderland manager Steve Bruce has a healthy summer budget and could match Rennes’ £7million valuation of Gyan.
Bruce is still hopeful he can secure a deal for Gyan’s Ghana captain John Mensah, who has been linked with a move to Hamburg, after a successful season on loan at the Stadium of Light and has expressed an interest in taking AC Milan’s Ghana striker Dominic Adiyiah, 20.
Gyan, who played much of the tournament alone up front, finished with three goals and also scored in the fateful shoot-out.
His strong performances leading the line alerted several clubs across the continent. Sunderland are also competing with West Ham for Algeria defender Rafik Halliche, 21, who is available for around £1.2m from Benfica.
Doesn't Gyan play for Udinese? And he only costing 7M pounds??
Nope plays in France ..... that bid price would go up .. seems like bruse bringing in strikers ... i guess he offload KJ just now ....
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Gyan is of the Kenwyn mold: big, strong, fast, can play alone up front. Not hearing many teams sizing up Kenwyn, though. Looks like he gone stale.
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From his comments prefers to be in London than North East.
I thought he looked a good target man with decent control but thats only 3 games or so that I seen him.
It has gone very quiet on the Kenwyne front, not really hit silly season yet as the WC is still on, but expect a couple will appear nearer the deadline, probably around similar money to what Gyan will go for I would of thought.
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Kev... thanks for the memories.. :'( :'(
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last rights (http://209.85.62.26/12318/36/emo/aaDead.gif)
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The End
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last rights (http://209.85.62.26/12318/36/emo/aaDead.gif)
;D
Now to open a "Stoke City Forever Thread"
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Said it before keep it going, where else will I get such nice abuse, much better than the plastic Manc, Pool or Chelsea threads.
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Said it before keep it going, where else will I get such nice abuse, much better than the plastic Manc, Pool or Chelsea threads.
Well for me it's been a pleasure having you around and hopefully we'll still see you check in these parts from time to time. I certainly appreciate the opportunity that Sunderland gave to our four Trinis, unfortunately the relationships didn't work out. I wish Sunderland and their fans all the best.
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Despite of all dat happened, thank you sunderland, great club, great fans.
PS: i'm still a supporter. it will take ah while for me to ween off this team.
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Despite of all dat happened, thank you sunderland, great club, great fans.
PS: i'm still a supporter. it will take ah while for me to ween off this team.
real funny how life does work eh?
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It's been 3yrs of ups and downs....it's real hard to break off that type of relationship lol
Big Up!
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Said it before keep it going, where else will I get such nice abuse, much better than the plastic Manc, Pool or Chelsea threads.
Well for me it's been a pleasure having you around and hopefully we'll still see you check in these parts from time to time. I certainly appreciate the opportunity that Sunderland gave to our four Trinis, unfortunately the relationships didn't work out. I wish Sunderland and their fans all the best.
agreed....Sunderland still have my support, is Steve Bruce ah doh like with he dutty self...
Best of luck in the new season :beermug:
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i dont like steve bruce so relegation for sunderland.
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This one about to die a slow and agonizing death, RIP
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Said it before keep it going, where else will I get such nice abuse, much better than the plastic Manc, Pool or Chelsea threads.
Well for me it's been a pleasure having you around and hopefully we'll still see you check in these parts from time to time. I certainly appreciate the opportunity that Sunderland gave to our four Trinis, unfortunately the relationships didn't work out. I wish Sunderland and their fans all the best.
BNS thankyou, I am not so sure the realtionships with teh 4 Trini's didn't work out, just more like normal in the world of football.
Stern John was replaced really by Kenwyne and that goes on at every club every season.
DY was a great friend of Keane and if we'er honest was never going to last longer than he did.
Carlos was unlucky with injuries and still feel sorry for him, he never got the chance in the league due to that and again his struggle (more mental imho) to get over them.
Kenwyne, after his 1st season I thought he would move for a lot of money to a good club probably either last year or this tbh. But again being honest we have never really seen that Kenwyne since the 1st 2/3rds of that season or only fleeting glimpes, hence the move and price, still believe there is a hell of a player in there but still doubt he wants it bad enough.
As for Bruce and the team, well I know from comments there is history and Bruce is not liked on here. As I have stated before I think Bruce has to share the blame for Kenwyne as his comments since his arrival it is obvious he struggled with him. As for Bruce himself I thought he was an uninspired choice and really only see him as an average manager, during the winless run last year I find his picks strange, subs (or lack of them) stranger and he seemed totally lost in terms of chopping and changing the team, tactics and playing the blame game. We seem to have a lot of CH's but still have obvious gaps such as LB and creative midfield and indeed with Cana out and Riveros in are in the same position with CM as last season which meant due to injuries / suspensions playing 2 kids in CM one of which isn't a CM. Personally as I have said before would of much preferred to see real competition for Kenwyne brought in in the form of another target man player rather than sell him a couple of days before the season starts to a rival club with no replacement in place, you can't rely on a kid, especially when you have an asset like Bent that needs support, maybe he will get lucky. For me there's more questions than answers around Bruce after his performance last season.
As for a slow death, well thats what life's all about, I will just keep giving what I feel is my honest opinion whether popular or not on here.
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exactly ... how you mean "it did not work out " ????
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exactly ... how you mean "it did not work out " ????
Is that aimed at me BM?
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I will still support Sunderland so Kev you are more than welcomed to keep this thread alive with your regular and informative updates!
Who knows you guys may sign another promising Trini in the near future but even if you don't I'll still support as you are a great club with great fans! Travelled all the way from London twice to see two of your games and will always treasure the experience!!
I'm not going to throw away my Sunderland football t-shirt just because there are no more Trini players left at the club well at least not until it is properly worn-out and has done its time! ;)
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Kev... All kicks aside i for one don't mind if the Sunderland updates keep coming. Truth is, (with the exception of Man Utd) I still hold a small affinity for clubs that have given opportunities for the Trinis to shine like Wrexham, Hibernian, Falkirk, Reading, Porto etc and cast on eye on them to see what they up to.
And far aside from the sentiment, I think the Sunderland relationship bore excellent results for our countrymen.
We had Stern go there and play and instrumental part in their promotion.
We had Yorke go there and play a pivotal dressing room role in the twilight of his career, even becoming an assistant coach and putting something on his CV that will hopefully help his ambitions of top level coaching.
We had Carlos go there and get his first taste of EPL action, and even if it didn't go as planned because of the aforementioned reasons, the point is that he still got the opportunities.
And lastly we had Kenwyne go there and make his name in the EPL. Despite his yet to be fulfilled potential, the outcry from the Sunderland fans is proof enough of the impression he left.
Furthermore, stemming through those very same West Indian connections, the Sunderland Academy continues to provide invaluable experiences for the next generation of football stars from our region --- Digicel uncover Caribbean Talent (http://www.safc.com/news/20100810/digicel-uncover-caribbean-talent-_2256213_2117359).
Not a Steve Bruce fan, and really not too sure what he trying to do with all those CB's he buying. I interested to see how he plans to juggle Mensah, Ferdinand, Turner, Bramble, Da Silva, Onuoha and Angeleri in the same defence, furthermore Danny Wellbeck is NOT the answer. But time will tell...
So for my part, all I can say is thanks to SAFC and all the best in the future.. Good luck and stick around :beermug: :beermug:
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I'm not going to throw away my Sunderland football t-shirt just because there are no more Trini players left at the club well at least not until it is properly worn-out and has done its time! ;)
You could still wear it to your barbershop quartet practice sessions
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I will still support Sunderland so Kev you are more than welcomed to keep this thread alive with your regular and informative updates!
Who knows you guys may sign another promising Trini in the near future but even if you don't I'll still support as you are a great club with great fans! Travelled all the way from London twice to see two of your games and will always treasure the experience!!
I'm not going to throw away my Sunderland football t-shirt just because there are no more Trini players left at the club well at least not until it is properly worn-out and has done its time! ;)
Could this be the next one???
http://www.youtube.com/v/t7sS-gQZ9JE
More here: T&T's Woo Ling going to Sunderland (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/100241769.html)
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exactly ... how you mean "it did not work out " ????
You bring a player to your team/club with one goal in mind... that player helping the team to success. Sunderland stayed up, and that's success... but if we are to be honest with ourselves, the only players who played any role in Sunderland staying up were Carlos and Kenwyne... and even so, with injuries and inconsistency they played very little part in that.
Stern, Yorke and Carlos did play bigger roles in helping them gain promotion though... so I guess that's something for those who see otherwise to hang their hats on.
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I would just like to see how many goals Bent scores now that Jones has gone. ;)
Maybe Jones will turn out to be like Bent, in that he couldn't get a look in at Tottenham but went to Sunderland and blossomed. Let's hope Jones does the same, now that he's not under a clueless f@ck (Bruce)who doesn't want him in the squad.
That makes it how many Trini players this @ss has f@cked up now? 3, 4....? >:(
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Sunderland v Brum 3.00 PM KO
Haven't a clue about today, set up team, debutantes etc.
I will only put up the 1 link
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=83707&part=sports
RTG tbf to Bent I think he will score no matter what as his record tends to bear out, whether as many as last season remains to be seen, but that also depends on who else comes in.
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Nothing in life is forever so remove that name and look for a suitable title.
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Strange messy game, thought Brum were poor tbh. Kid in goal was very nervous understandably. The reality is Bruce is blaming the ref, but haven't learnt from last season indiscipline / stupidy, he needs to stop whinging and get a grip (same comments from 2nd half of last season) Bent was nowhere near fully fit. The fact we could nearly feild a full team of CH's and still can't defend crosses or set pieces beggars belief.
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Ah know it early, but ah hope Jones put in a few on Sunderland only because of big mouth Steve Bruce.
Sat. 6, 11:00 AM ET, Sunderland v Stoke City, Stadium of Light
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Ah know it early, but ah hope Jones put in a few on Sunderland only because of big mouth Steve Bruce.
Sat. 6, 11:00 AM ET, Sunderland v Stoke City, Stadium of Light
Ditto :beermug:
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Ah know it early, but ah hope Jones put in a few on Sunderland only because of big mouth Steve Bruce.
Sat. 6, 11:00 AM ET, Sunderland v Stoke City, Stadium of Light
Um the date yuh have in the subject is wrong ah think...Nov 10th is ah Wednesday not ah Saturday..ah know dat because it's a day before my b/day ;D so ah think you mean Nov, 6th?
Big Up!
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West Brom v Sunderland 3.00 PM KO
Mensah injured big surprise, still have kid in goal, should still be enough, depends if he has sorted the away problem, I hope he has more luck than he has had with the obvious discipline problem.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=83717&part=sports
Have a nice weekend
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No surprise, same as last season at away didn't turn up really, tata
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last rights (http://209.85.62.26/12318/36/emo/aaDead.gif)
Still going :devil:
Sunderland v Man City 3.00 KO GMT
Playing today because of City's European involvement. Haven't a clue whats going to happen, Bruce baffles me.
Bent doesn't look fully fit and is struggling for form tbh.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=83731&part=sports
Transfer News.
Rumours are
Gyan - Liked the look of him at the WC but 3 games or so, so if we do sign him just have to wait and see, one thing is for sure we need a target man type.
Nzogbia - Would of liked to sign him when he left Newcastle think he would be OK
Fanni (Rennes?) - One out of left field but were linked with him under Keane I don't watch French Football so haven't a scooby.
2 Days left so rumours will gather pace.
Watched the Stoke match yesterday though Kenwyne looked lively.
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Kev ,
I'm a lil curious .. where is Andy Reid is he still with sunderland?
I havent heard about him in a while.
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Wow Sunderland pulled off a big win.
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Kev ,
I'm a lil curious .. where is Andy Reid is he still with sunderland?
I havent heard about him in a while.
Got injured at the end of last season. He should be back after the international break
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Strange game but entertaining, 3 points so onward and upward.
Kev ,
I'm a lil curious .. where is Andy Reid is he still with sunderland?
I havent heard about him in a while.
Reid's injured on his way back, but Bruce doesn't really rate him and he only got into teh team last season due to his performances in the cup and gave him no choice really, although he was our best creative player last season. Wouldn't be surprised to only see him when Bruce has no other options, bit like teh Kenwyne situation and only a matter of time before he is gone, think he would of been sold by now if it wasn't for his injury.
Forgot Tevez's miss will make a lot of gaff dvd's and will be screened an awful lot.
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3535896.html?v=68cf8cd74654d5c4dc155a943e655ba0 :rotfl:
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Strange game but entertaining, 3 points so onward and upward.
Kev ,
I'm a lil curious .. where is Andy Reid is he still with sunderland?
I havent heard about him in a while.
Reid's injured on his way back, but Bruce doesn't really rate him and he only got into teh team last season due to his performances in the cup and gave him no choice really, although he was our best creative player last season. Wouldn't be surprised to only see him when Bruce has no other options, bit like teh Kenwyne situation and only a matter of time before he is gone, think he would of been sold by now if it wasn't for his injury.
Forgot Tevez's miss will make a lot of gaff dvd's and will be screened an awful lot.
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3535896.html?v=68cf8cd74654d5c4dc155a943e655ba0 :rotfl:
That is the Tevez I remembered @ United! Welcome back son!
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Sunderland in talks with Rennes over Gyan
By Soccernet staff
August 29, 2010
Sunderland have opened transfer negotiations with Ligue 1 club Rennes over what is expected to be a club-record transfer for Ghana international Asamoah Gyan.
Black Cats officials are holding talks as they attempt to recruit a replacement for Kenwyne Jones, who joined Sunderland for £8 million earlier this month, ahead of Tuesday's transfer deadline. ;D
Their need for new striker became more acute on Sunday when Fraizer Campbell, who had been partnering Darren Bent, suffered suspected knee ligament damage during the 1-0 Premier League victory over Manchester City.
After win at the Stadium of Light, Sunderland manager Steve Bruce said: "It's imperative that we try to bring a body in because we are a bit short there and if [Campbell] he is going to be missing for the next couple of months, which could be the situation, then we need to act if we possibly can."
I find it strange all of ah sudden it imperative Steve...yuh had KJ...so why d haste now.... :devil:
Gyan, 24, an international colleague of on-loan defender John Mensah, was one of the stars of the World Cup finals and has been in Bruce's sights all summer.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1307544/Sunderland-striker-Fraizer-ruled-season.html
Sunderland hit by major blow as striker Fraizer Campbell is ruled out for the season
Fraizer Campbell has been ruled out for the season after scans revealed he has ruptured his cruciate ligaments.
The 22-year-old was taken off in Saturday’s 1-0 victory over Manchester City after an innocuous challenge from Micah Richards.
It was widely thought Campbell may have twisted ligaments in his knee, which would have seen him return back to action in a matter of weeks.
But the devastating news of his absence for the whole duration of the campaign rocked the player and Steve Bruce to the core.
Campbell had looked in rapacious form in pre-season as he netted an impressive haul of six goals in seven games.
And was quietly confident that this could be his breakthrough term in the Premier League after arriving from Hull for £6 million last summer.
However, his absence for the campaign is likely to see Bruce engage in more transfer activity to provide himself with more striking options.
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Looks like asamoah gyan is in the bag. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_6349737,00.html
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Yea Gyan to Sunderland is done deal for 16 mil Euro. Sky Sports saying.
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Sunderland have big money!
I look forward to seeing Gyan play.
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1745: DONE DEAL: Sunderland have - with a full 15 minutes to spare - signed Asamoah Gyan for a fee in excess of £13m. The Ghanaian striker has put pen-to-paper on a four-year deal, apparently. Sighs of relief all round the Stadium of Light.
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rota,
He did the same last season left short in CM and still no LB.
I was quite impressed with Gyan at the WC but 3/4 games not enough to tell really, but a lot of money when compared to Kenwyne's sale price, a little bit younger 2 years? or so, just have to wait and see. Also let Waghorn go, the youngster for £3 Million or so to Liecester.
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Why do we still have this thread?
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Why do we still have this thread?
Simple really just don't read it ???
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Why do we still have this thread?
For the same reason we have a man-u thread, a chealsea for life thread, and an arsenal thread. we don't have one solitary player on any of these teams, and seriously doubt that we will any time soon, but their thread still exist. the last time i checked, this was a football forum and sunlun is a football team, anymore questions.
BTW some of us happen to like sunderland FC, is that a crime?
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rota,
He did the same last season left short in CM and still no LB.
I was quite impressed with Gyan at the WC but 3/4 games not enough to tell really, but a lot of money when compared to Kenwyne's sale price, a little bit younger 2 years? or so, just have to wait and see. Also let Waghorn go, the youngster for £3 Million or so to Liecester.
Kev, gyan is not going to make a lick of difference, as a matter of fact he may prove less effective than jones. he's slower, less athletic, defends way less, less of an aerial threat, and still with the same poor service and one solitary play maker in andy reid.
the only thing gyan brings to the table is a way better first touch and better finishing which you already have in bent, hes just a carbon copy of bent and would not be able to defend and attack like KJ. if cece, cole, prica, and chopra didn't have ah huge tally, then how could gyan with the same bum service do any better?
if you had gotten Nzogbia, then it would've made a world of difference. but same poor service = same results, no matter if messy was paired up with bent.
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Why do we still have this thread?
Simple really just don't read it ???
I simply asked why we still have this thread. A suitable response would have been, "Because there are still people interested in Sunderland.
"Simple just don't read it ???" is both idiotic and grammatically confusing. Bravo kev.
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rota,
He did the same last season left short in CM and still no LB.
I was quite impressed with Gyan at the WC but 3/4 games not enough to tell really, but a lot of money when compared to Kenwyne's sale price, a little bit younger 2 years? or so, just have to wait and see. Also let Waghorn go, the youngster for £3 Million or so to Liecester.
Kev, gyan is not going to make a lick of difference, as a matter of fact he may prove less effective than jones. he's slower, less athletic, defends way less, less of an aerial threat, and still with the same poor service and one solitary play maker in andy reid.
the only thing gyan brings to the table is a way better first touch and better finishing which you already have in bent, hes just a carbon copy of bent and would not be able to defend and attack like KJ. if cece, cole, prica, and chopra didn't have ah huge tally, then how could gyan with the same bum service do any better?
if you had gotten Nzogbia, then it would've made a world of difference. but same poor service = same results, no matter if messy was paired up with bent.
I don't even think Gyan is that much of a better finisher, but lewwe see wha happen.
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Why do we still have this thread?
Simple really just don't read it ???
I simply asked why we still have this thread. A suitable response would have been, "Because there are still people interested in Sunderland.
"Simple just don't read it ???" is both idiotic and grammatically confusing. Bravo kev.
Marcus no disrespect to you bro, but your approach kinda warranted the response. even i wanted tuh get snappy wid yuh , but then again i find it outatimin tuh be handlin big men scruffy, so i chilled.
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I just thought (and still think) it was a legitimate question taking into account that this is a TT Football Msg Board, there are no longer any Trini players on the team and Sunderland is a pretty low profile squad.
For the same reason we have a man-u thread, a chealsea for life thread, and an arsenal thread. we don't have one solitary player on any of these teams, and seriously doubt that we will any time soon, but their thread still exist. the last time i checked, this was a football forum and sunlun is a football team, anymore questions.
Yeah I have more questions. Why aren't there Blackpool, Wigan or Birmingham threads?
Answer: Because they are lower profile. Just look at the three teams you mentioned. You really think Sunderland falls into that class both from a historic or talent perspective?
If there are Sunderland fans here, is all good. I wish y'all the best.
But doh need to be an @$$ about it. Iz really not that ridiculous a question as you make it seem
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I just thought (and still think) it was a legitimate question taking into account that this is a TT Football Msg Board, there are no longer any Trini players on the team and Sunderland is a pretty low profile squad.
For the same reason we have a man-u thread, a chealsea for life thread, and an arsenal thread. we don't have one solitary player on any of these teams, and seriously doubt that we will any time soon, but their thread still exist. the last time i checked, this was a football forum and sunlun is a football team, anymore questions.
Yeah I have more questions. Why aren't there Blackpool, Wigan or Birmingham threads?
Answer: Because they are lower profile. Just look at the three teams you mentioned. You really think Sunderland falls into that class both from a historic or talent perspective?
If there are Sunderland fans here, is all good. I wish y'all the best.
But doh need to be an @$$ about it. Iz really not that ridiculous a question as you make it seem
You entered a recently-updated thread with several people participating in discussion just to ask why the thread exists. That defines ridiculous. It exists because people are inside it talking.
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I just thought (and still think) it was a legitimate question taking into account that this is a TT Football Msg Board, there are no longer any Trini players on the team and Sunderland is a pretty low profile squad.
For the same reason we have a man-u thread, a chealsea for life thread, and an arsenal thread. we don't have one solitary player on any of these teams, and seriously doubt that we will any time soon, but their thread still exist. the last time i checked, this was a football forum and sunlun is a football team, anymore questions.
Yeah I have more questions. Why aren't there Blackpool, Wigan or Birmingham threads?
Answer: Because they are lower profile. Just look at the three teams you mentioned. You really think Sunderland falls into that class both from a historic or talent perspective?
If there are Sunderland fans here, is all good. I wish y'all the best.
But doh need to be an @$$ about it. Iz really not that ridiculous a question as you make it seem
You entered a recently-updated thread with several people participating in discussion just to ask why the thread exists. That defines ridiculous. It exists because people are inside it talking.
Thank yuh, you saved me some typing. ;D
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Why do we still have this thread?
Simple really just don't read it ???
I simply asked why we still have this thread. A suitable response would have been, "Because there are still people interested in Sunderland.
"Simple just don't read it ???" is both idiotic and grammatically confusing. Bravo kev.
Marcus no disrespect to you bro, but your approach kinda warranted the response. even i wanted tuh get snappy wid yuh , but then again i find it outatimin tuh be handlin big men scruffy, so i chilled.
couldn't have put it better JC.. :beermug:
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rota,
He did the same last season left short in CM and still no LB.
I was quite impressed with Gyan at the WC but 3/4 games not enough to tell really, but a lot of money when compared to Kenwyne's sale price, a little bit younger 2 years? or so, just have to wait and see. Also let Waghorn go, the youngster for £3 Million or so to Liecester.
Kev, gyan is not going to make a lick of difference, as a matter of fact he may prove less effective than jones. he's slower, less athletic, defends way less, less of an aerial threat, and still with the same poor service and one solitary play maker in andy reid.
You sure you talking about de same Gyan?
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I just thought (and still think) it was a legitimate question taking into account that this is a TT Football Msg Board, there are no longer any Trini players on the team and Sunderland is a pretty low profile squad.
For the same reason we have a man-u thread, a chealsea for life thread, and an arsenal thread. we don't have one solitary player on any of these teams, and seriously doubt that we will any time soon, but their thread still exist. the last time i checked, this was a football forum and sunlun is a football team, anymore questions.
Yeah I have more questions. Why aren't there Blackpool, Wigan or Birmingham threads?
Answer: Because they are lower profile. Just look at the three teams you mentioned. You really think Sunderland falls into that class both from a historic or talent perspective?
If there are Sunderland fans here, is all good. I wish y'all the best.
But doh need to be an @$$ about it. Iz really not that ridiculous a question as you make it seem
You entered a recently-updated thread with several people participating in discussion just to ask why the thread exists. That defines ridiculous. It exists because people are inside it talking.
As so many haven't noticed, it was a rhetorical question. I was merely propagating the ridiculousness out of idleness.
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I just thought (and still think) it was a legitimate question taking into account that this is a TT Football Msg Board, there are no longer any Trini players on the team and Sunderland is a pretty low profile squad.
For the same reason we have a man-u thread, a chealsea for life thread, and an arsenal thread. we don't have one solitary player on any of these teams, and seriously doubt that we will any time soon, but their thread still exist. the last time i checked, this was a football forum and sunlun is a football team, anymore questions.
Yeah I have more questions. Why aren't there Blackpool, Wigan or Birmingham threads?
Answer: Because they are lower profile. Just look at the three teams you mentioned. You really think Sunderland falls into that class both from a historic or talent perspective?
If there are Sunderland fans here, is all good. I wish y'all the best.
But doh need to be an @$$ about it. Iz really not that ridiculous a question as you make it seem
You entered a recently-updated thread with several people participating in discussion just to ask why the thread exists. That defines ridiculous. It exists because people are inside it talking.
As so many haven't noticed, it was a rhetorical question. I was merely propagating the ridiculousness out of idleness.
so, is that like saying yuh question was "idiotic and grammatically confusing" or "idiotic and intellectually confusing" or is all that the same thing ? wait, my questions rhetorical too, and I idle too....so doh bother answer...not easy eh? ;D
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You sure you talking about de same Gyan?
I had to wonder too...I now say Steve Bruce make a brillliant move there by getting him in cheaper than Kenwyne. He is one of the best men in the world at playing a lone striker. Bent might not benefit from the move though, and that could affect the success of the team as a whole.
But Gyan is more of a finished product than KJ, so it's a good move for Bruce who obviously cannot bring out the best in players and have questionable man-management skills...but he might be okay tactically.
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I honestly not sold on Gyan as a finisher although I very willing to be proven wrong.
The man was the throw-way king in 2006.. In South Africa all his goals was penalties except one brilliant finish against the USA. He only score like 14 goals for Rennes in the French League which was a step down from Udinese in Serie A where he didnt exactly light up the scoring charts there either.
Would love to see him do well and he would probably be a good foil for Bent, but dont expect him to give far and above what Kenwyne was able to give to Sunderland.
But anyway, lewwe see how it go..
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My thoughts on Gyan were he looked a good target man.
But similar to Kenwyne I just don't see him as an out and out goalscorer, he just didn't really look like one to me.
JC I disagree he probably is a mix of Kenwyne and Bent from what very little I seen at the WC, I think the pair could work together as he looked like a good target man. He is also (supposedly) only 24 so he still has improvement left in him as a player. Watching a player in a match out of interest is totally different than when he is playing for your team and you are much more aware what he is doing teh whole game and are better placed to make a more accurate opinion.
Still think its too much money, a lot more questions than answers about him but he did seem like he would be suited by the EPL and could be an asset, needs a few games under his belt before you can pass any judgement, he won't get that much chance to train with Bent due to the internationals before teh 1st game.
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All i said was i don't think gyan will prove more fruitful than KJ, since KJ is ah speedier front man (fact) is far more effective in the air especially with scoring opportunities,( Fact) KJ is way more athletic and could get up and down the field on offense and defense quicker, IOW, could run faster jump higher and IMO have more stamina, (Fact) takes load pressure off partner strikers and weigh heavy on defenders than any black cat could.
but i did give gyan his props, he's a better finisher, has better touches, is way better with the ball @ his feet mobily, is a smarter footballer by far, but for gyan to be effective he needs real good service, and that's why i said he would not be any better than KJ, BC unlike bent who needs very little service to score, gyan is the opposite, he's not ah prolific goal scorer like bent , but plays the same style.
he could run @ defenses like bent , finishes in like manner, good with the ball @ his feet, he poches like bent, but unlike bent , he needs service to score, and that he would not get from sunderland, and un like his national team, he would have tuh help out in defense BC sunderland only have two solid defenders, bramble and mensah.
on the other hand , if gyan had went to any of the top six teams we would've seen the best of him, but @ sunderland he will suffer , maybe even more than KJ, BC that is ah less skillful more laborious team, and they played more of a KJ style of football.
if yuh don't believe me just take a look @ all the strikers who failed @ sunderland. murphy, chopra, cece, cole, all neat players with touches up the ying yang, but couldn't hit if off. we'll see how good he is when things get into full swing. i'll be here waiting to say, " i told you so". :waiting:
PS: Kev, gyan is not no damn 24, ghanians are known for deflating their ages, just look @ freddy adu, the mans like 27 but says he's 22. if i was to guess, i would say he's about 26/ 27
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PS: Kev, gyan is not no damn 24, ghanians are known for deflating their ages, just look @ freddy adu, the mans like 27 but says he's 22. if i was to guess, i would say he's about 26/ 27
Thats why I said supposedly, he looks to have had a hard paper round ;D
For me I honestly didn't watch him that closely so know little about him, I will be able to make a much more reasoned comment after watching him properly for 10 or so games.
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I honestly not sold on Gyan as a finisher although I very willing to be proven wrong.
The man was the throw-way king in 2006.. In South Africa all his goals was penalties except one brilliant finish against the USA. He only score like 14 goals for Rennes in the French League which was a step down from Udinese in Serie A where he didnt exactly light up the scoring charts there either.
Would love to see him do well and he would probably be a good foil for Bent, but dont expect him to give far and above what Kenwyne was able to give to Sunderland.
But anyway, lewwe see how it go..
I completely agree. Gyan did score Ghana’s first goal in the WC in 2006; he was picked out on a nice pass from Appiah. But looking at his movements with the ball and dribbling ability etc, he is not exceptional. But at this moment Sunderland badly needs another striker (as their manager has said), and without one the probability of going down is very high.
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Wigan v Sunderland 3.00 PM KO
Unlikely to be a working link but you can try.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=85992&part=sports
Turner & Gordon out, Gyan likely to play.
Have a nice weekend
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Cattermole is captain, why? All passion, no sense.
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Cattermole is captain, why? All passion, no sense.
Just an idiot what can you say, first was never a yellow but that makes no odds 2nd was always going to be so why?
Gyan scored a good goal, but didn't look fit and he will have to learn quickly can't waltz around like that in this league. Take a few games to adjust.
Poor game really.
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rota,
He did the same last season left short in CM and still no LB.
I was quite impressed with Gyan at the WC but 3/4 games not enough to tell really, but a lot of money when compared to Kenwyne's sale price, a little bit younger 2 years? or so, just have to wait and see. Also let Waghorn go, the youngster for £3 Million or so to Liecester.
Kev, gyan is not going to make a lick of difference, as a matter of fact he may prove less effective than jones. he's slower, less athletic, defends way less, less of an aerial threat, and still with the same poor service and one solitary play maker in andy reid.
You sure you talking about de same Gyan?
lol i was gonna ask the same thing ... wasnt this the same man who hold off two usa defenders off balance and nearly drill a hole through they keeper with he left foot .... allyuh fellas feel KJ woulda do that? lol
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rota,
He did the same last season left short in CM and still no LB.
I was quite impressed with Gyan at the WC but 3/4 games not enough to tell really, but a lot of money when compared to Kenwyne's sale price, a little bit younger 2 years? or so, just have to wait and see. Also let Waghorn go, the youngster for £3 Million or so to Liecester.
Kev, gyan is not going to make a lick of difference, as a matter of fact he may prove less effective than jones. he's slower, less athletic, defends way less, less of an aerial threat, and still with the same poor service and one solitary play maker in andy reid.
You sure you talking about de same Gyan?
lol i was gonna ask the same thing ... wasnt this the same man who hold off two usa defenders off balance and nearly drill a hole through they keeper with he left foot .... allyuh fellas feel KJ woulda do that? lol
Allyuh does look @ football real simplistically boy. first off, i personally feel fellas like KJ, carlos and the seniors who got slagged off by the TTFF really didn't give their all, that's BC if they sustained an injury during an international the TTFF would just over look them in the same manner they dealt with anthony noriega when they took ah huge dump on the boy and never looked back. ( you do remember him don't you?) that coupled with the WC bonuses left those guys jaded and unmotivated.
they also can't refuse to play for their country if they are called by their federation BC of FIFA rules and work permit issues. but i believe if KJ was playing for a decent federation along side decent players the likes of gyans ghanian team mates, he could've achieved that and more!
KJ is ah big big player despite his touches, and he will prove that tuh allyuh if he ever gets on ah good team.
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JC, I do think Kenwyne has been given a great opportunity by Stoke signing EG, he can teach him an awful lot, whether he does or not remains to be seen.
For me its not what Kenwyne does in the next 6 months or so but what he does after that.
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rota,
He did the same last season left short in CM and still no LB.
I was quite impressed with Gyan at the WC but 3/4 games not enough to tell really, but a lot of money when compared to Kenwyne's sale price, a little bit younger 2 years? or so, just have to wait and see. Also let Waghorn go, the youngster for £3 Million or so to Liecester.
Kev, gyan is not going to make a lick of difference, as a matter of fact he may prove less effective than jones. he's slower, less athletic, defends way less, less of an aerial threat, and still with the same poor service and one solitary play maker in andy reid.
You sure you talking about de same Gyan?
lol i was gonna ask the same thing ... wasnt this the same man who hold off two usa defenders off balance and nearly drill a hole through they keeper with he left foot .... allyuh fellas feel KJ woulda do that? lol
Allyuh does look @ football real simplistically boy. first off, i personally feel fellas like KJ, carlos and the seniors who got slagged off by the TTFF really didn't give their all, that's BC if they sustained an injury during an international the TTFF would just over look them in the same manner they dealt with anthony noriega when they took ah huge dump on the boy and never looked back. ( you do remember him don't you?) that coupled with the WC bonuses left those guys jaded and unmotivated.
they also can't refuse to play for their country if they are called by their federation BC of FIFA rules and work permit issues. but i believe if KJ was playing for a decent federation along side decent players the likes of gyans ghanian team mates, he could've achieved that and more!
KJ is ah big big player despite his touches, and he will prove that tuh allyuh if he ever gets on ah good team.
JC you feel KJ have to be on a good team to prove that he is a good player?
Or play well when he has the ball and opportunity to do things?
It's the things you do when you get the opportunity that defines you as a player .... KJ was getting props before because of the things he did on the ball and the effort and similarly is getting stick because of what he does now when he gets the ball ... he is past the point of potential now is either he step up or he step off.
IF he make me eat my words I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong but until then ........
He is a man .....
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rota,
He did the same last season left short in CM and still no LB.
I was quite impressed with Gyan at the WC but 3/4 games not enough to tell really, but a lot of money when compared to Kenwyne's sale price, a little bit younger 2 years? or so, just have to wait and see. Also let Waghorn go, the youngster for £3 Million or so to Liecester.
Kev, gyan is not going to make a lick of difference, as a matter of fact he may prove less effective than jones. he's slower, less athletic, defends way less, less of an aerial threat, and still with the same poor service and one solitary play maker in andy reid.
You sure you talking about de same Gyan?
lol i was gonna ask the same thing ... wasnt this the same man who hold off two usa defenders off balance and nearly drill a hole through they keeper with he left foot .... allyuh fellas feel KJ woulda do that? lol
Allyuh does look @ football real simplistically boy. first off, i personally feel fellas like KJ, carlos and the seniors who got slagged off by the TTFF really didn't give their all, that's BC if they sustained an injury during an international the TTFF would just over look them in the same manner they dealt with anthony noriega when they took ah huge dump on the boy and never looked back. ( you do remember him don't you?) that coupled with the WC bonuses left those guys jaded and unmotivated.
they also can't refuse to play for their country if they are called by their federation BC of FIFA rules and work permit issues. but i believe if KJ was playing for a decent federation along side decent players the likes of gyans ghanian team mates, he could've achieved that and more!
KJ is ah big big player despite his touches, and he will prove that tuh allyuh if he ever gets on ah good team.
JC you feel KJ have to be on a good team to prove that he is a good player?
Or play well when he has the ball and opportunity to do things?
It's the things you do when you get the opportunity that defines you as a player .... KJ was getting props before because of the things he did on the ball and the effort and similarly is getting stick because of what he does now when he gets the ball ... he is past the point of potential now is either he step up or he step off.
IF he make me eat my words I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong but until then ........
He is a man .....
Like yuh fearful of eatin yuh words or what? yuh eh see my yute score one today out of nothing, and he almost coulda score three but freedal was in fine form today.
as for players underachievin on bum teams, just look @ scotty last yr, he was on ah bum team and it made him seem like ah bum himself, but yuh think if scotty was on ah team like arsenal he woulda score just one goal? NO! he woulda @ least gotten 10 BC he's ah pure pocher.
good teams in some cases make good players better.
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rota,
He did the same last season left short in CM and still no LB.
I was quite impressed with Gyan at the WC but 3/4 games not enough to tell really, but a lot of money when compared to Kenwyne's sale price, a little bit younger 2 years? or so, just have to wait and see. Also let Waghorn go, the youngster for £3 Million or so to Liecester.
Kev, gyan is not going to make a lick of difference, as a matter of fact he may prove less effective than jones. he's slower, less athletic, defends way less, less of an aerial threat, and still with the same poor service and one solitary play maker in andy reid.
You sure you talking about de same Gyan?
lol i was gonna ask the same thing ... wasnt this the same man who hold off two usa defenders off balance and nearly drill a hole through they keeper with he left foot .... allyuh fellas feel KJ woulda do that? lol
Allyuh does look @ football real simplistically boy. first off, i personally feel fellas like KJ, carlos and the seniors who got slagged off by the TTFF really didn't give their all, that's BC if they sustained an injury during an international the TTFF would just over look them in the same manner they dealt with anthony noriega when they took ah huge dump on the boy and never looked back. ( you do remember him don't you?) that coupled with the WC bonuses left those guys jaded and unmotivated.
they also can't refuse to play for their country if they are called by their federation BC of FIFA rules and work permit issues. but i believe if KJ was playing for a decent federation along side decent players the likes of gyans ghanian team mates, he could've achieved that and more!
KJ is ah big big player despite his touches, and he will prove that tuh allyuh if he ever gets on ah good team.
JC you feel KJ have to be on a good team to prove that he is a good player?
Or play well when he has the ball and opportunity to do things?
It's the things you do when you get the opportunity that defines you as a player .... KJ was getting props before because of the things he did on the ball and the effort and similarly is getting stick because of what he does now when he gets the ball ... he is past the point of potential now is either he step up or he step off.
IF he make me eat my words I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong but until then ........
He is a man .....
Like yuh fearful of eatin yuh words or what? yuh eh see my yute score one today out of nothing, and he almost coulda score three but freedal was in fine form today.
as for players underachievin on bum teams, just look @ scotty last yr, he was on ah bum team and it made him seem like ah bum himself, but yuh think if scotty was on ah team like arsenal he woulda score just one goal? NO! he woulda @ least gotten 10 BC he's ah pure pocher.
good teams in some cases make good players better.
JC I like how yuh does big up we players with ah earnestness :beermug:
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rota,
He did the same last season left short in CM and still no LB.
I was quite impressed with Gyan at the WC but 3/4 games not enough to tell really, but a lot of money when compared to Kenwyne's sale price, a little bit younger 2 years? or so, just have to wait and see. Also let Waghorn go, the youngster for £3 Million or so to Liecester.
Kev, gyan is not going to make a lick of difference, as a matter of fact he may prove less effective than jones. he's slower, less athletic, defends way less, less of an aerial threat, and still with the same poor service and one solitary play maker in andy reid.
You sure you talking about de same Gyan?
lol i was gonna ask the same thing ... wasnt this the same man who hold off two usa defenders off balance and nearly drill a hole through they keeper with he left foot .... allyuh fellas feel KJ woulda do that? lol
Allyuh does look @ football real simplistically boy. first off, i personally feel fellas like KJ, carlos and the seniors who got slagged off by the TTFF really didn't give their all, that's BC if they sustained an injury during an international the TTFF would just over look them in the same manner they dealt with anthony noriega when they took ah huge dump on the boy and never looked back. ( you do remember him don't you?) that coupled with the WC bonuses left those guys jaded and unmotivated.
they also can't refuse to play for their country if they are called by their federation BC of FIFA rules and work permit issues. but i believe if KJ was playing for a decent federation along side decent players the likes of gyans ghanian team mates, he could've achieved that and more!
KJ is ah big big player despite his touches, and he will prove that tuh allyuh if he ever gets on ah good team.
JC you feel KJ have to be on a good team to prove that he is a good player?
Or play well when he has the ball and opportunity to do things?
It's the things you do when you get the opportunity that defines you as a player .... KJ was getting props before because of the things he did on the ball and the effort and similarly is getting stick because of what he does now when he gets the ball ... he is past the point of potential now is either he step up or he step off.
IF he make me eat my words I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong but until then ........
He is a man .....
Like yuh fearful of eatin yuh words or what? yuh eh see my yute score one today out of nothing, and he almost coulda score three but freedal was in fine form today.
as for players underachievin on bum teams, just look @ scotty last yr, he was on ah bum team and it made him seem like ah bum himself, but yuh think if scotty was on ah team like arsenal he woulda score just one goal? NO! he woulda @ least gotten 10 BC he's ah pure pocher.
good teams in some cases make good players better.
Yuh have a point dey. Scotting played 34 games i think and he didnt play one bad game. Wat he got was poor service for the entire season. KJ is in a better team this season and he showed today that he can play with the big boys. He just needs consistency.
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Just came back from the SMB, boy they pongin kenwyne, it's ah shame tuh see the way they talkin bout jones after he saved they arses two yrs in a row from relegation. that's gratitude for yuh.
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Sunderland v Arsenal KO 5.30 PM GMT.
Not expecting anything really, some bad games coming up (Manu, Chelsea, Liverpool, Villa), should be plenty of working links.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=87082&part=sports
JC, not really a SMB thing just a fan thing as I said on another thread. Most people just think he was good for us but just never really delivered to potential / expectations enough times and still think he was sold cheaply.
Its teh same all teh time, people will defend the manager players now despite the evidence and as soon as they leave will turn on them, I am afraid people are the same the world over.
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See that goal ;D Sunderland not doing to bad. Arsenal posession game not flowing at all.
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Kev yuh team showed some spirit to equalize today. Good final 20mins. Exciting final 10.
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Sunderland deserved that goal and not just because of the last 15 minutes, they dominated the first half.
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Thought the game was decent so was the performance although never really hurt Arsenal. Don't think anybody could argue didn't deserve the point. Hopefully Andy Reid will do the same as last season and force his way back into the team by his midweek Cup performances.
Still not convinced at all with the defence.
Hope everybody has a good week.
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Footballer And Brother Arrested For Rape
By: Sarah Gordon (Sky News Online).
Premier League footballer Titus Bramble and his brother have both been arrested on suspicion of rape.
The 29-year-old Sunderland player and his 30-year-old brother Tesfaye were detained after the alleged rape of a young woman was reported to police in the early hours of the morning.
The pair are being questioned by Northumbria police over an alleged attack at a Newcastle city centre hotel.
Reports claim the rape took place at the four-star Vermont Hotel, which has an entrance near to the bars and clubs on Newcastle's quayside.
A hotel spokesperson refused to comment.
A police spokseman said: "Police received a report of a rape of a woman at a city centre hotel in Newcastle in the early hours.
"Two men, aged 29 and 30, have been arrested on suspicion of rape."
Sunderland manager Steve Bruce signed former Ipswich and Newcastle defender Titus Bramble from Wigan this summer for a reported £1m fee.
Tesfaye Bramble, a striker, has played international football for Monsterrat, a British island in the Caribbean, and also plays for the Eastern Counties League Premier Division club Leiston, in Suffolk.
Sunderland Football Club has not yet commented on the arrest.
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Another poor performance and a loss against West 'Am.
As for Bramble, well I have no sympathy really, he is old enough to know better. He is just a long list of footballers caught in this position, some have done wrong some haven't and I honestly don't know if he has or hasn't, but as above should know better.
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Sunderland v Manu 3.00 GMT KO
Big 4 game so should be able to pick up a working link if you want to.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=89583&part=sports
The forum was down a couple of days last week when I tried so sorry didn't put anything up for Liverpool.
Can't really let it go without mentioning it. The FA and EPL seem intent on promoting Atwell as a ref and there has been a number of grumbles about him this season so far.
The goal was strange, but having let the play run once it hit the net he gave himself no choice, however if you ignore that incident he had a poor game. He missed obvious fouls by both teams, a blatant / stonewall penalty, Gerrard should of been sent off and he showed his inexperience / naviety when 2 Liverpool players were down and out. He let the physio treat, put a pretty / matchingbandage on Skertle at one point I thought the physio was going to give him a manicure to waste more time, all this went on while Carragher was getting stitches in the dressing room. He then forgot the rules about sending a player to the touchline after injury and allowing a player back on the field without permission. A rule he remebered again when Welbeck was elbowed by Gerrard. A really poor game by him although the EPL were quick to point out the goal was legal ignoring all the other mistakes, quite simply Atwell isn't upto the job at the minute no matter how hard the FA and EPL want him to be. My whinge of the week.
Hope everybody has a nice weekend.
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Man, SUnderland cannot buy a goal
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Man, SUnderland cannot buy a goal
Still feel MrSunderland(SB) sell ah few doh (KJ, SJ, CE), but ah could never prove that....still tying any Man team is ah good thing, wheter is Boos or Cs'..cyah knock dat
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A couple good results in a row by Sunderland... although it reasonably could be argued that a draw with shitty Liverpool is a letdown, lol. Still, fans should must be besides themselves with holding Man U scoreless. Kev's probably leaned up against a wall somewhere sleeping off the drunk, lol
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Sunderland didn't just tie this game they were taking it to Man United it seems that Bruce might have created a team that is simply very difficult to beat ..... but is yet to learn how to beat other teams.
A draw specialist ...
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A couple good results in a row by Sunderland... although it reasonably could be argued that a draw with shitty Liverpool is a letdown, lol. Still, fans should must be besides themselves with holding Man U scoreless. Kev's probably leaned up against a wall somewhere sleeping off the drunk, lol
:rotfl:
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A decent game should of really put to bed, but better than I expected.
Sunderland didn't just tie this game they were taking it to Man United it seems that Bruce might have created a team that is simply very difficult to beat ..... but is yet to learn how to beat other teams.
A draw specialist ...
Really just not committing men forward enough fast enough. Although playing well not really causing problems often enough for the other teams because of this. Again needed to change it earlier and left the team the same, I just find his subs / lack of them baffling at times.
No game for a couple of weeks due to the international break, next one Monday 18th
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Blackburn v Sunderland KO 8.00 PM GMT.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=89599&part=sports
Bent doubtful, not one for the purists me thinks. ;)
Hope everyone had a good weekend
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Bent playing. Spurned a golden chance to put Sunderland ahead.
Blackburn had more play, but Sunderland had the better chances.
Red Card for Samba in the dregs of the 1st half.
Rovers will park the bus for the 2nd half now.
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Horrible game as expected.
Gyan at least looks fit now, but will need to adjust and that will take games.
Bruce whinging about lack of goals from elsewhere, well if he doesn't commit players forward except Bent apart from set pieces, how the hell are the other players suppose to score them.
Villa Saturday
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Sunderland v Villa 3.00 GMT
Should be a decent match, but will get nothing if he doesn't commit players forward.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=91311&part=sports
Have a nice weekend
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Great Result against Villa.
Villa was dominating tho. except where it counts.
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Great Result against Villa.
Villa was dominating tho. except where it counts.
Thought we had the better of the 1st half, just. Villa changed it around 2nd half and Bruce as usual didn't react / change until late in the game, got lucky. He seems intent on playing trying not to get beat rather than trying to win the game has done all season.
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http://www.premierleague.com/page/Headlines/0,,12306~2195672,00.html
350 - Sunderland's 1-0 win over Aston Villa was a fitting way to mark their 350th match in the Premier League. The Black Cats are unbeaten in their last seven fixtures.
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It seems the decisions Bruce made is working for him?all who used to critiqe Bruce have to give him some pips,is Sunderland a better team now than they had in the past?i could have never imagined a Triniless Sunderland.
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It seems the decisions Bruce made is working for him?all who used to critiqe Bruce have to give him some pips,is Sunderland a better team now than they had in the past?i could have never imagined a Triniless Sunderland.
Their defense seems to be better than last season....
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He is a defensive minded person so that don't surprise me. His offensive tactics are inept and, for that, he would always be considered a mid-table manager.
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It seems the decisions Bruce made is working for him?all who used to critiqe Bruce have to give him some pips,is Sunderland a better team now than they had in the past?i could have never imagined a Triniless Sunderland.
Too early to make that call..
Off the top of my head, Sunderland does always start out hot and sweaty and then fizzle out mid-season and end up in a relegation worry coming down towards the end of the season. Lets see if its a different story come January when fatigue sets in and the sheep separate from the goats.
Seem like they doing a better job defensively though.. Not surprising since thats where Bruce has spent most of his money in the transfer market.
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It seems the decisions Bruce made is working for him?all who used to critiqe Bruce have to give him some pips,is Sunderland a better team now than they had in the past?i could have never imagined a Triniless Sunderland.
Their defense seems to be better than last season....
That is what has made the difference so far. It have nothing to do with offense because dat still is level shit in SAFC. So the selling of KJ eh make no difference to their goal scoring rate nor opportunities. If wasn fuh ah few penalties Bent would have what 2 goals?
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It seems the decisions Bruce made is working for him?all who used to critiqe Bruce have to give him some pips,is Sunderland a better team now than they had in the past?i could have never imagined a Triniless Sunderland.
Their defense seems to be better than last season....
That is what has made the difference so far. It have nothing to do with offense because dat still is level shit in SAFC. So the selling of KJ eh make no difference to their goal scoring rate nor opportunities. If wasn fuh ah few penalties Bent would have what 2 goals?
Not really, he had been muttering on about changing how he plays away before the season started, so I think it was going to be 451 either way.
He comes across stubborn and has favourites without a doubt, he tried Welbeck up front with Bent for a game or 2 and it didn't really work, but in reality that wasn't enough time. The system now was somewhat forced upon him with the obvious lack of fitness of Gyan so I doubt he will change it until forced. The league is very tight and we could easily be near the bottom over the next few weeks / month, the 2nd highest score is OG. We are simply not getting enough players forwards often enough in open play and hence don't create anything, its a bit like Sbragia and a point a game mentality. I just think Bruce is living upto what his record shouts which is average / mediorce manager.
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It seems the decisions Bruce made is working for him?all who used to critiqe Bruce have to give him some pips,is Sunderland a better team now than they had in the past?i could have never imagined a Triniless Sunderland.
Their defense seems to be better than last season....
That is what has made the difference so far. It have nothing to do with offense because dat still is level shit in SAFC. So the selling of KJ eh make no difference to their goal scoring rate nor opportunities. If wasn fuh ah few penalties Bent would have what 2 goals?
Not really, he had been muttering on about changing how he plays away before the season started, so I think it was going to be 451 either way.
He comes across stubborn and has favourites without a doubt, he tried Welbeck up front with Bent for a game or 2 and it didn't really work, but in reality that wasn't enough time. The system now was somewhat forced upon him with the obvious lack of fitness of Gyan so I doubt he will change it until forced. The league is very tight and we could easily be near the bottom over the next few weeks / month, the 2nd highest score is OG. We are simply not getting enough players forwards often enough in open play and hence don't create anything, its a bit like Sbragia and a point a game mentality. I just think Bruce is living upto what his record shouts which is average / mediorce manager.
Bruce is just plain dumb. If Bent hates being a target man then why would he relish the lone striker role?!! Part of the problem is a lack of foresight. He sold jones in a hurry because he was enamoured with Campbell and figured Wellbeck to be good enough to plug in when needed. Luckily the defense has stood up so far. Given the notables hanging around in the second 10 of the table, I hope he is prepared to slip back down to where this quality team belongs. Draws will not cut it!
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It seems the decisions Bruce made is working for him?all who used to critiqe Bruce have to give him some pips,is Sunderland a better team now than they had in the past?i could have never imagined a Triniless Sunderland.
Their defense seems to be better than last season....
That is what has made the difference so far. It have nothing to do with offense because dat still is level shit in SAFC. So the selling of KJ eh make no difference to their goal scoring rate nor opportunities. If wasn fuh ah few penalties Bent would have what 2 goals?
Not really, he had been muttering on about changing how he plays away before the season started, so I think it was going to be 451 either way.
He comes across stubborn and has favourites without a doubt, he tried Welbeck up front with Bent for a game or 2 and it didn't really work, but in reality that wasn't enough time. The system now was somewhat forced upon him with the obvious lack of fitness of Gyan so I doubt he will change it until forced. The league is very tight and we could easily be near the bottom over the next few weeks / month, the 2nd highest score is OG. We are simply not getting enough players forwards often enough in open play and hence don't create anything, its a bit like Sbragia and a point a game mentality. I just think Bruce is living upto what his record shouts which is average / mediorce manager.
Bruce is just plain dumb. If Bent hates being a target man then why would he relish the lone striker role?!! Part of the problem is a lack of foresight. He sold jones in a hurry because he was enamoured with Campbell and figured Wellbeck to be good enough to plug in when needed. Luckily the defense has stood up so far. Given the notables hanging around in the second 10 of the table, I hope he is prepared to slip back down to where this quality team belongs. Draws will not cut it!
I think thats part of it, but also think he was told to sell someone if he wanted to spend real money (like Gyan type money). It was obvious a long time ago he didn't want Kenwyne and by the price he got for him, shows how eager he was to sell him, why god knows and it is a big gamble considering Gyan's lack of fitness and needing to settle. Campbell and Welbeck aren't target men type pure and simple and Bruce can say what he wants about Bent liking that role unfortunately he is on record a couple of times saying how he dislikes it.
I don't think he is getting the best out of what he has by a long chalk.
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I think thats part of it, but also think he was told to sell someone if he wanted to spend real money (like Gyan type money). It was obvious a long time ago he didn't want Kenwyne and by the price he got for him, shows how eager he was to sell him, why god knows and it is a big gamble considering Gyan's lack of fitness and needing to settle. Campbell and Welbeck aren't target men type pure and simple and Bruce can say what he wants about Bent liking that role unfortunately he is on record a couple of times saying how he dislikes it.
I don't think he is getting the best out of what he has by a long chalk.
Well he is what he is so expecting him to get the best out of his players might be out of his range as a manager. I guess Jones is the only one he could have sold to get a decent return, but considering defense and midfield were the real problems he goofed. If he had kept KJ and strengthened the middle and back, the team would have seen improved standing. I like Campbell but even if he didnt go down, there isn't enough good passing and movement to have allowed him or Bent to have successful campaigns this season.
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Newcastle v Sunderland KO 1.30 PM GMT
Links http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=91325&part=sports
For both sets of fans most important game/s of the season, interesting to see if we "turn up" today and if Cattermole manages to stay on the pitch.
If you want to watch should be plenty of working links as live on Sky Sports.
Hope everybody had/has a nice weekend and Happy Halloween
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I have a Geordie partner. He have this one circle on his calendar since the schedule come out.
Big game. Good luck!
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i think sunderland fans believe they are a bigger club than they really are last season they started just as they are now 2-2 with manu,1-0 to arsenal, etc and then bruce start to talk shyte and middle season collapse i think the same will happen again because as far as i see they are an all right club with a good stadium and the fans are not rooted in reality but all in all i don't wish them well ,and big up to newcastle
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i think sunderland fans believe they are a bigger club than they really are last season they started just as they are now 2-2 with manu,1-0 to arsenal, etc and then bruce start to talk shyte and middle season collapse i think the same will happen again because as far as i see they are an all right club with a good stadium and the fans are not rooted in reality but all in all i don't wish them well ,and big up to newcastle
This is how I feel.
I like kev, but in general, those fans are just as arrogant and deluded as the Newcastle fans they hate.
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What a cut arse :devil:
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not looking so good at the Derby...
5 nil to Newcastle after 74mins and down to 10 men
I think damage control is in order...
EDIT: btw, where is Bent and Gyan? They playing today?
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Somebody call the police!
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this team still alive?
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Welcome back to the Premiership Newcastle....enjoy your early Xmas present.
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i saw dis scoreline an it only now dawn on me that wait nuh...dis is d derby...so i went n dust off mih ole sun'lun hat put it on an was like oh shiiiiiiiiiiitttt...den i took it off and resumed laffin..
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Didn't turn up, no big surprise to me anyway.
I have watched the smb spout shite for the past few weeks about 2nd best defensive record etc and in common with some fans of other clubs, thought I have been watching a different team.
Played 541 and changed it when 3-0 down just before halftime, but took the wrong player off. Still never got anybody forward in support of the front men and took until 70 minutes to have a shot on target. As I have said before its been the same all season. The sending off was fair enough one of those that could of just been a yellow or red, bad defending got on wrong side but unlike the other ones this season not a stupid one.
Stoke next week and can't defend crosses.
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Kev , yuh know sunlun is a club i love, BC the damn club grew on me and we've been supporting yuhs guys since you was in the CCC when carlos and yorke donned the red and white, but ah have to say today i was hoping that yuhs team got destroyed by the mags, and they didn't disappoint!
ah know yuh wondering why would i want ah team that i liked get stumped? simple, BC i fackin hate that bang up faced lion head steve fackin bruce and the jerks on the SMB!!!!! he never liked any of our boys and treated KJ like an absolute shmuck and to my suprise , most makems applaud this move!!
i also wanted latapy to fail so he would get fired, and i love my national team to shreads. i want bruce to fail and fail miserably.
as for the SMB, i wanted them to feel what i felt when they talked shyte about KJ. the yute wasn't that bad to your team, as ah matter of fact his goals kept yuhs in the prem for three seasons, and with the exception of you/kev, NZjoe, perry quil, and stubber, i wish the nasty arseholes especially ppl like major major, lauder makem, thecozmo and facthunt/ fatcont ah lousy fackin hang over sunday!!!!!! :devil: :devil:
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JC I think you go on most boards and you will find that the club / present manager and players can do no wrong, when they leave its usually a different story, but I'm afraid thats what people are like. They quote stats to help their cause when it suits them.
Strangley Bruce has been playing all season as if Kenwyne is still up front, which has meant Bent is even more isolated. I have done it to death the last few games about trying not to lose rather than win. Hopefully this is a wake up call for the club with regards Bruce.
Although I understand he isn't liked on here I have always made my thoughts plain on him since his appointment uninspired and average. He may get lucky one season, but I can't see the club really progressing that much with him as manager tbh as for me he simply doesn't get teh best from what he has got, nor is he able to change it when its going wrong.
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Stoke next week and can't defend crosses.
And Kewnyne Jones GUARANTEED to score against Sunderland. This just always happens when you sell a striker in acrimonious circumstances.
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After 20 pages, the departure of John, Yorke, Carlos and Kenwyne and a good cutarse from a superior team ..it is time to put this thread to rest.
It's been an "okay" trip Sunderland, buy forever came a little early :devil:
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Wha bout Shola Ameobi's goal off the rebound ... screamer!!
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After 20 pages, the departure of John, Yorke, Carlos and Kenwyne and a good cutarse from a superior team ..it is time to put this thread to rest.
It's been an "okay" trip Sunderland, buy forever came a little early :devil:
Yuh mad?? this thing now getting good! i want tuh see steve bruce self destruct and be able to post about it. that lion head kakahole have tuh feel it. the thread eh going no where, plus ah like kev, he's ah cool english brother.
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Stoke next week and can't defend crosses.
And Kewnyne Jones GUARANTEED to score against Sunderland. This just always happens when you sell a striker in acrimonious circumstances.
honestly, as far as striker transfers go, that was as "acrimonious" as Winnie the Pooh trying to get his head out of a jar of honey...
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After 20 pages, the departure of John, Yorke, Carlos and Kenwyne and a good cutarse from a superior team ..it is time to put this thread to rest.
It's been an "okay" trip Sunderland, buy forever came a little early :devil:
Is this a mags thing, must be the same all over the world, never hear from them then all come out of the woodwork when things going their way. Its staying so if you don't want to read it don't I am sure there will be other threads you don't read, nobody is breaking your arm you to click on it.
Stoke next week and can't defend crosses.
And Kewnyne Jones GUARANTEED to score against Sunderland. This just always happens when you sell a striker in acrimonious circumstances.
honestly, as far as striker transfers go, that was as "acrimonious" as Winnie the Pooh trying to get his head out of a jar of honey...
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BTW we lack creativity in midfield and Bruce loans out Andy Reid for a month, I just find him bewildering. He was / in a similar position to Kenwyne in the fact its obvious Bruce doesn't want him and only got into teh team last season on his cup performances and he could really drop him.
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Where is the Stoke vs Sunderland game being played?
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Where is the Stoke vs Sunderland game being played?
Stadium of Light
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Kenwyne going and administer a dosage of poison on Bruce this weekend.
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http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?p=8721819
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Game might be live here
http://www.firstrow.net/
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watching it at 1pm et on fsc. so ill be avoiding spoilers here or twitter
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Sunderland v Stoke KO 3.00 PM GMT
Link http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=93711&part=sports
I doubt there will be a working link just have to wait and see.
I think Kenwyne is a knocking bet to score today.
Bruce has alreday stated (Tuesday) that he will be making changes and Gyan will play, but as Bent says in the other thread will take time for them. Why he let Stoke know days before the match is beyond me tbh. although he seems to be panicing from last weeks result.
Expect an awful game and Cattermole had to be subbed last week to stop him getting a red card, wouldn't be at all surprised to see him get one today.
Hope everyone has a nice weekend and been careful with the fireworks.
(I know its a UK thing)
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Steve Bruce has no fear of Kenwyne Jones
By Mark Douglas (The Journal)
STEVE Bruce says he has no fears about Kenwyne Jones returning to pile more misery on him – as he prepares to finally unleash the Stoke striker’s £13m replacement Asamoah Gyan.
Sunderland begin their mission to salvage pride after their Tyne-Wear derby humiliation with the visit of Stoke this afternoon, who are spearheaded by former Black Cat Jones.
The Trinidad and Tobago international was effectively forced out over the summer after Bruce became frustrated by his inconsistency, but has proved his goalscoring pedigree with three goals in nine games since moving to the Britannia Stadium. Another at the Stadium of Light would make life awkward for the Sunderland boss, who knows he has plenty of work to do to repair his reputation on Wearside. But he insists he is just another opposition striker.
“Kenwyne has nothing to prove and we have nothing to prove to Kenwyne,” the Black Cats boss said. “There was never any falling out as people said and selling him enabled me to bring in Gyan and do something different.
“But make no mistake, he’s a very good player and we’ll have to play very well to keep him quiet. No matter what anyone says, I’ve got a huge amount of respect for Kenwyne.
“On his day he’s a very, very good footballer but you make decisions as a manager and I think he’d run his course for us here. I think a staleness had crept in. I wish him well – but not on Saturday.”
Sunderland supporters would certainly feel more comfortable if Gyan hits the ground running. So far his Black Cats career has been a slow burner – a fine debut goal against Wigan followed by numerous forgettable cameos as a substitute.
But Bruce is urging people not to judge him on his short appearances so far. “Bringing him in is a response to what’s happened last week because our Achilles heel is not scoring,” he said. “He is ready, make no mistake about it.
“He’s champing at the bit – I told him on Tuesday he’d be playing. It’s right to give the kid his chance. He can give everyone a spark and lift with his first Premier League start.
“Darren Bent’s played very well (as a lone striker) and his goal tally’s there for everyone to see, I’m sure he’d enjoy a bit of help.
“Gyan’s something different, I’m sure he’ll be a big hit in the Premier League. He’s a bit off-the-wall and he has that brilliance to win you a match. We’ve invested a lot of money in the kid and I hope he’ll come and give us a spark the crowd will enjoy.
“I haven’t needed to put him in yet. We have let him settle in and we were playing well and I didn’t want to tinker with it.”
Of course Jones is not the only Stoke player with intimate knowledge of life on Wearside.
Former skipper Dean Whitehead staffs their midfield engine room, while Danny Collins and goalkeeper Thomas Sørensen are also former Black Cats.
Add to the mix Danny Higgin-botham and Rory Delap and there is plenty of potential for former players to return to haunt Sunderland.
“We will welcome back the one or two who performed very, very well for us while they were here,” Bruce said. “But they know what it is all about here and I’m sure Tony Pulis will be saying to them ‘Keep the crowd quiet for 20 minutes’ and all the rest of that.
“We have to handle all of that.”
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9' Goal! Sunderland 1, Stoke City 0. Asamoah Gyan (Sunderland) right footed shot from very close range to the centre of the goal.
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what's the HT score.
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1-0 at the half to Sunderland
Bent thief Jones head with he article yesterday...
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:rotfl: and Thanks
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Jones is a Jedi, he mash up Mensah without contact.
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Definitely need a review on them 2 goals KJ should have had
The second was close but the first was blatant
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Gyan proving his worth.
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twice they had goal line clearances off Jones headers sunderland win 2-0 thanks to gyan
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woosah. the first jones header was a hand ball by sunderland. EPL needs replay video by refs
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Kenwyne totally disappoint meh today, he had ah good opportunity to rub salt in bruce's face today and choked! as ah matter of fact, he let bruce show him up and in return made bruce look like ah genius for getting rid of him since his two replacements tore stoke ah new arsehole!
on another note, this stoke team reminds me of the first promoted sunlun team and play this hoof game that is so sickening. they can't string two passes together. that whole midfield is loaded with mediocre players.
if KJ is ever to make an impact in the prem, he needs to leave all these fringe team alone and join ah top team like chelsea, manU, arsenal, man city, liverpool,or villa, but these other team have no creativity and in order for him to shine, he needs to be on ah top team.
i really can't watch stoke city anymore, it's just senseless to do so! they play real unattractive football.
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woosah. the first jones header was a hand ball by sunderland. EPL needs replay video by refs
let him start to shoot with his feet
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Bent injury meant 451 with Gyan up front.
The atmosphere was strange, nervous / angry, I don't think Bruce can afford many bad results before the crowd turns on him tbh.
The game was poor really, surprised Stoke looked poor in defence considering they play percentage football, weren't really in the game before the goal if truth be told. The penalty was strange to me a tangle of legs one of those sometimes the ref gives it sometimes not if its in your favour your happy, but understandable if it goes against you when your not. Everybody was astounded that Malbranque took it when Gyan would of been the natural choice. No real surprise when it was saved but give all the hoo haa Bruce had when Bent let Kenwyne take one last season, it didn't look like anybody was the designated taker, poor.
Should of been a penalty for handball by Cattermole without doubt, so got very lucky there, but Stoke got away with an even more blatant one at our place last game so even things out. Don't think anybody could argue with the sending off.
Gyan is not a replacement for Kenwyne, not the same type of players. Gyan is probably more of the finisher than Kenwyne, can head it but certainly not a target man. I think him and Bent could work together and cause defences problems, but the team, midfield would have to change to make it work, the question is, is Bruce upto it. Doubt it myself.
Playing Spuds away Tuesday night.
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Kenwyne totally disappoint meh today, he had ah good opportunity to rub salt in bruce's face today and choked! as ah matter of fact, he let bruce show him up and in return made bruce look like ah genius for getting rid of him since his two replacements tore stoke ah new arsehole!
on another note, this stoke team reminds me of the first promoted sunlun team and play this hoof game that is so sickening. they can't string two passes together. that whole midfield is loaded with mediocre players.
if KJ is ever to make an impact in the prem, he needs to leave all these fringe team alone and join ah top team like chelsea, manU, arsenal, man city, liverpool,or villa, but these other team have no creativity and in order for him to shine, he needs to be on ah top team.
i really can't watch stoke city anymore, it's just senseless to do so! they play real unattractive football.
JC I think you are missing the point, Stoke bought Kenwyne because of his aerial ability. Stoke play percentage football, pressure, high balls, set pieces Delap throw ins etc. Tuncay who I think is a good player has hardly had a game, scored a good goal the other week when brought on and forced himself into the team, Pulis will drop him again. Pulis and Bruce aren't that far apart on attitudes tbh.
1st was a deffo penalty 2nd wasn't in or very close tbh. Don't think Kenwyne did enough tbh, if it wasn't for the handball and clearance hardly noticed him. I noticed a couple of times when other players score at Stoke he doesn't really join in the celebrations, just makes me wonder if he is really happy there.
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let him start to shoot with his feet
when iz d last time KJ take ah shot at goal with ANY of he two foot?
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let him start to shoot with his feet
when iz d last time KJ take ah shot at goal with ANY of he two foot?
yesterday.
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Bent injury meant 451 with Gyan up front.
The atmosphere was strange, nervous / angry, I don't think Bruce can afford many bad results before the crowd turns on him tbh.
The game was poor really, surprised Stoke looked poor in defence considering they play percentage football, weren't really in the game before the goal if truth be told. The penalty was strange to me a tangle of legs one of those sometimes the ref gives it sometimes not if its in your favour your happy, but understandable if it goes against you when your not. Everybody was astounded that Malbranque took it when Gyan would of been the natural choice. No real surprise when it was saved but give all the hoo haa Bruce had when Bent let Kenwyne take one last season, it didn't look like anybody was the designated taker, poor.
Should of been a penalty for handball by Cattermole without doubt, so got very lucky there, but Stoke got away with an even more blatant one at our place last game so even things out. Don't think anybody could argue with the sending off.
Gyan is not a replacement for Kenwyne, not the same type of players. Gyan is probably more of the finisher than Kenwyne, can head it but certainly not a target man. I think him and Bent could work together and cause defences problems, but the team, midfield would have to change to make it work, the question is, is Bruce upto it. Doubt it myself.
Playing Spuds away Tuesday night.
Kev, are you really from sunderland, ah find it strange that you know the game so well, but when i visit the SMB there's so much slop and wacky opinions to make your head spin. ah have to give it to you bro, you defo watch this game with eyes wide open, BC every thing you said sounds just about right.
if i was to guess from your post past and present, i would assume you coach or work around the sport, maybe a sports writer of some sort?
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JC, no not a writer or coach but the area only football really exists whichever side you support. I have watched Sunderland for more than 30 years and boy have I seen some tata in that time, the team at the minute is like Brazil compared with some I have had to sit through.
You have to remember the SMB is a very small percentage of fans, a lot of them are just kids. I too have been through the stage where you see everything through Red & White glasses and the club, manager etc could do know wrong, like everything else in life you wise up eventually. You really need to stop confusing teh nutters on the SMB with the normal average Sunderland fan and taking it to heart. This place will have the same without doubt.
For me as I have said on many occasions performances it was matters, this team simply isn't performing well enough, often enough, Bruce got lucky again yesterday, but the mood has changed towards him and he needs a fair few results to change it back. Most people on the smb just care about the result and table and thats it no more no less. I don't dislike Bruce as on here but I don't honestly believe the club will move forward significantly with him in charge, if you can't be good make sure your lucky seems to be his motto.
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If Kj work on the mental and physical side of his game he could be Kevin Davies. He doesn't have to go to a more skillful side to improve those areas just ask Davies.
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On both Jones' headers he outjumped the friggin goalkeeper.
Nobody gets at those crosses like him, he was just real unlucky with both tries.
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Kenwyne totally disappoint meh today, he had ah good opportunity to rub salt in bruce's face today and choked! as ah matter of fact, he let bruce show him up and in return made bruce look like ah genius for getting rid of him since his two replacements tore stoke ah new arsehole!
on another note, this stoke team reminds me of the first promoted sunlun team and play this hoof game that is so sickening. they can't string two passes together. that whole midfield is loaded with mediocre players.
if KJ is ever to make an impact in the prem, he needs to leave all these fringe team alone and join ah top team like chelsea, manU, arsenal, man city, liverpool,or villa, but these other team have no creativity and in order for him to shine, he needs to be on ah top team.
i really can't watch stoke city anymore, it's just senseless to do so! they play real unattractive football.
I agree with you here ...he wont develop as a footballer with Stoke ...a high jumper maybe ? I pity all the fans who get mid pitch seats .....for Stoke you just need two linesmen, a referee and air traffic control !
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Spurs v Sunderland KO 8.00 PM GMT
Should be able to get a link.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=93717&part=sports
Looks like Bent is out for a few weeks with hamstring, tbt he hasn't really looked fully fit all season so far, it seems one niggle after another. So 451 with Gyan up front, Bruce is on about changes I would expect Gordon to come back and changes to mf.
Chelsea next game on Saturday.
Don't expect anything from either game tbh, so a point or 2 would be a bonus.
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Well a point.
It was basically a training match attack against defence, Spurs weren't that good really only troubled us when Crouch came on. Spurs may of had a penalty, but also their goal was handball so probably evened itself out.
Can't really rememeber Gomes having to make a save, but Gyan took his chance well again. Bruce must be feeling the pressure a bit because unusually for him he changed at half time. Very strange season, but last year our best away performance came at Spurs and we deserved at least a draw probably a win, but got nothing so I suppose its evening itself out.
Chelsea on Saturday
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Chelsea v Sunderland KO 4.00 PM GMT.
Live game on Sky so plenty of links.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=93738&part=sports
Bent is still injured, no doubt he will change it again. See if the luck holds out or not.
Hope everyone had a nice weekend
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Live on FSC at 11 am EDT here in the US.
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Well he started this match as he finished at Spurs with 442 and more importantly also tried to get a couple of midfield players forward particularly Zenden. Chelsea looked jittery in defence from the start and Gyan had an early chance. Chelsea never really caused us many problems. Gyan is a different player from Kenwyne, but holds the ball well, brings in other players and has shown a lot of composure in front of goal. I think he has played 5 matches (in minutes) and 5 goals.
I couldn't understand why he hasn't played Zenden, last season he had 2 kids in mf and got thumped.
Well worth the win, Chelsea should of been down to 10 men, and could of easily won by more.
Will help in other matches as teams will have to take care of Gyan/Welbeck/Bent.
Bruce has been forced into it from the result a couple of weeks ago.
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Amazing result Kev, you guys deserved it. Wellbeck is one for the future, hope he opts to play for Ghana at senior level
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gorm boy kev does always soun so normal dred smileys up d thread na..geh on like ah damn skettel na yuh side f**k chelsea wit a cold prick!
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Well he started this match as he finished at Spurs with 442 and more importantly also tried to get a couple of midfield players forward particularly Zenden. Chelsea looked jittery in defence from the start and Gyan had an early chance. Chelsea never really caused us many problems. Gyan is a different player from Kenwyne, but holds the ball well, brings in other players and has shown a lot of composure in front of goal. I think he has played 5 matches (in minutes) and 5 goals.
I couldn't understand why he hasn't played Zenden, last season he had 2 kids in mf and got thumped.
Well worth the win, Chelsea should of been down to 10 men, and could of easily won by more.
Will help in other matches as teams will have to take care of Gyan/Welbeck/Bent.
Bruce has been forced into it from the result a couple of weeks ago.
Well done, you played us off the park :beermug:
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gorm boy kev does always soun so normal dred smileys up d thread na..geh on like ah damn skettel na yuh side f**k chelsea wit a cold prick!
Translation: "geez, kev always sounds so calm and collected, post some smileys man... act like a Southwick tart for crissakes, your side just...."
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gorm boy kev does always soun so normal dred smileys up d thread na..geh on like ah damn skettel na yuh side f**k chelsea wit a cold prick!
Translation: "geez, kev always sounds so calm and collected, post some smileys man... act like a Southwick tart for crissakes, your side just...."
BNS thanks Google struggled :rotfl:
I was in shock :o been screaming about getting more men forward and stop just trying not to get beat and its the only time he has done it, do think he was/is under pressure after Newcastle result, so needs must. Lets hope he sticks to it, becasue 3 points in one game is the same as 3 draws.
Happy as a Pig in Tata ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Boudewijn "Bolo" Zenden About this sound pronunciation (help·info); born 15 August 1976 in Maastricht) is a Dutch footballer who plays for Sunderland as a midfielder. He is perhaps best known for his fantastic dancing and was allegedly targeted for the most recent series of popular television show, strictly come dancing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudewijn_Zenden
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I remember laughing watching him try to do the Gyan... now saw this posted on a forum
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Boudewijn "Bolo" Zenden About this sound pronunciation (help·info); born 15 August 1976 in Maastricht) is a Dutch footballer who plays for Sunderland as a midfielder. He is perhaps best known for his fantastic dancing and was allegedly targeted for the most recent series of popular television show, strictly come dancing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudewijn_Zenden
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I remember laughing watching him try to do the Gyan... now saw this posted on a forum
He look like one macomeh man tryin to do Gyan dance, ah was like WTF
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He look like one macomeh man tryin to do Gyan dance, ah was like WTF
Macomeh man is joke.
http://www.youtube.com/v/Pz6vP6yLobw
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He look like one macomeh man tryin to do Gyan dance, ah was like WTF
Macomeh man is joke.
http://www.youtube.com/v/Pz6vP6yLobw
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Fantastic display by Sunderland.
I was very impressed with Danny Welbeck!! Excellent performance!! He actually looked a class player
ah love it!!
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BNS thanks Google struggled :rotfl:
I was in shock :o been screaming about getting more men forward and stop just trying not to get beat and its the only time he has done it, do think he was/is under pressure after Newcastle result, so needs must. Lets hope he sticks to it, becasue 3 points in one game is the same as 3 draws.
Happy as a Pig in Tata ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Lol... indeed ;D
This is the most positive I have ever seen Sunderland play in the three seasons that I've been watching. Even after they had scored and most similarly situated squads might have been tempted to bunker down, they kept pressuring, especially in midfield... and especially on the wings. They kept Cole from making his probing runs down the left... and in fact, more than just him, they funneled everything inside and I thought it completely stifled the Chelsea attack. To go to Stamford Bridge and get a point against this offensive juggernaut which had yet to concede at home all season... and I think even going back some 30-something matches, was huge. To get a win was fantastic. To do so AND to shut them out... and in such dominating fashion to boot, incredible.
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Sunderland v Everton KO 8.00PM GMT.
Showing live on Sky in UK so should be links if anybody wants to watch.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=95550&part=sports
Bent looks like he will be available from hamstring but whether he will start I don't know. Suspect he will keep it teh same apart from Bent. Everton are a bogey team so god knows and which side will turn up remains to be seen.
BNS I thought Keane usually give it a go against all bar top 4, but simply never had the players. He did that upto getting hammered off Everton at Goodison and then never seemed to be able to get over it, so shut up shop from then on, beginning of the end for him in restrospect.
Hope everyone had a nice weekend.
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Firstly the Everton match, thought Everton were the better team and lucky to get a point tbh. I don't think we have ever played against Cahill without him scoring. Gyan didn't play as he picked up a knock with Ghana
Today
Wolves v Sunderland KO 3.00 GMT.
Turner and Bramble are both out until the New Year with injuries so that will have to change. Bruce has already stated Welbeck will start so thats either with Bent or Gyan. As usual don't know which side will turn up, I have seen a couple of Wolves games and playing better than the results they are getting.
Don't think there will be a working link but you can try if you want to
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=95558&part=sports
Have a nice weekend
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Strange game, never turned up for an hour, then went behind, took the lead and lost it.
Got what we deserved from the game which was nothing, maybe the luck has ran out with regards to results v performances.
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Strange game, never turned up for an hour, then went behind, took the lead and lost it.
Got what we deserved from the game which was nothing, maybe the luck has ran out with regards to results v performances.
ah hate tuh say it, but without titus bramble yuhs guy are flat in the back, he's the engineer in that defense. good luck in the rest of your game without titus ox.
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Sunderland v West Ham KO 4.00 PM GMT.
On Sky Sports so should be plenty of working links.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=97218&part=sports
Haven't got a clue what will happen today as still don't know which team is going to turn up, a boring but highly repetitive team.
JC the defence is a miss, but the fact the team turns up in a match for 15 minutes has a much greater bearing on the result imho. Bruce blamed the defence but ignored the obvious.
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Old adage game of 2 halves. Good 1st half, poor 2nd half again West Ham changed it around 2nd half, Bruce didn't. 3 points and Fulham Saturday.
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Fulham v Sunderland 3.00 KO GMT
Maybe get a working link don't know.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=97222&part=sports
Gyan a doubt as is Gordon.
Haven't a clue as usual because I don't know whether the team will turn up and for how long, I wish I did.
Have a nice weekend
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0 - 0 Bore draw, another fortunate point.
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0 - 0 Bore draw, another fortunate point.
Did gyan and bent played up front today or did the three strikers ran out instead?
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Gyan injured his toe so came on late. Bent really hasn't hit form yet this season, although tbh he wasn't fully fit for a fair bit.
Bent and Gyan haven't played enough yet, but also revealed this week that they haven't / aren't training together / on different teams. It was also said just before the Chelsea game that all the work on the training pitch has been 451 not 442 don't know if thats change since though.
It really is a strange league and a bad run could see it alter quite a bit, performance wise it hasn't been that good tbh, results have been better. Gyan has looked a good player when he has played.
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Sunderland v Bolton KO 12.45 GMT
Early match on Sky so should get a link.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=98895&part=sports
Team news defence is a worry Turner, Bramble still out. He does even rate Da Silva so anybody else bar him will play.
Gyan is fit again so should play.
Bolton have had a good start and changed their style under Coyle (who I think is a good manager). Haven't a clue because don't know what team will turn up.
Have a nice weekend.
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Sunderland v Bolton KO 12.45 GMT
Early match on Sky so should get a link.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=98895&part=sports
Team news defence is a worry Turner, Bramble still out. He does even rate Da Silva so anybody else bar him will play.
Gyan is fit again so should play.
Bolton have had a good start and changed their style under Coyle (who I think is a good manager). Haven't a clue because don't know what team will turn up.
Have a nice weekend.
Lol...nice
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This thread just refuses to die...
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This thread just refuses to die...
Just shows how stubborn I am. I wouldn't have an excuse to visit here otherwise ;D
Hard fought 3 points, very strange season.
College sorry missed the n't off should of read doesn't (couldn't find a smiley for Dum Dum)
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This thread just refuses to die...
Just shows how stubborn I am. I wouldn't have an excuse to visit here otherwise ;D
Hard fought 3 points, very strange season.
College sorry missed the n't off should of read doesn't (couldn't find a smiley for Dum Dum)
Keep it coming kev, i'm still a sunlun supporter, it's just that i have a serious dislike for steve bruce, but i still support the lads so keep it coming.
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This thread just refuses to die...
Just shows how stubborn I am. I wouldn't have an excuse to visit here otherwise ;D
Hard fought 3 points, very strange season.
College sorry missed the n't off should of read doesn't (couldn't find a smiley for Dum Dum)
Kev, pay the naysayers no mind... you contribute here and in other threads from time to time. Besides, with every complaint they help to keep the thread alive ;)
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is this thread make me check that s'land high up in the table.
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This thread just refuses to die...
Just shows how stubborn I am. I wouldn't have an excuse to visit here otherwise ;D
Hard fought 3 points, very strange season.
College sorry missed the n't off should of read doesn't (couldn't find a smiley for Dum Dum)
I know what you were saying but it ended up like something a Trini would say...
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I know what you were saying but it ended up like something a Trini would say...
I saw that too, lol. Kev, the way you used 'rate' is the way a Trini would ("I doh even rate Bramble"). I think you been hanging around these parts too long ;D
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I know what you were saying but it ended up like something a Trini would say...
I saw that too, lol. Kev, the way you used 'rate' is the way a Trini would ("I doh even rate Bramble"). I think you been hanging around these parts too long ;D
Nah, dey does talk so over there too.
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I know what you were saying but it ended up like something a Trini would say...
I saw that too, lol. Kev, the way you used 'rate' is the way a Trini would ("I doh even rate Bramble"). I think you been hanging around these parts too long ;D
Maybe, must try harder, anyway some from your area lot the way we say Man (apologies if thats Jamacia not TnT), so I think its only fair. ;D
PS I do genuinely enjoy reading the board and do have my say on things now and again, less agro now that Kenwyne has moved. It must be a record for the thread as I haven't seen "Tata Team" for at least a dozen posts (mostly mine).
As the next match is after Christmas, I will wish you all a very Merry Christmas now. I hope Santa is good to one and all, remember be good, if you can't be good, be careful, if you can't do either, don't get caught.
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I can see one of the reasons Bruce replaced Jones with Gyan; Sunderland are looking to play the ball more on the ground and also incorporate more movement when going forward. The forwards are making darting runs and playing one twos among themselves things that were not Jones' strengths. Gyan is a better fit to that type of play along with Wellbeck and Bent.
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Hope Santa was good to everyone!
Manu v Sunderland KO 3.00 PM GMT.
Top 4 so should be working links.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=98921&part=sports
Fair few injuries, Meyler is injured, but don't think he was anywhere near fit when played a couple of weeks ago, Richardson is out and Welbeck can't play, not sure what team will be put out of whether they will turn up.
giggsy11
Bruce has always liked a big forward to lump it to, but Kenwyne always gave the defenders / midfielders an easy out, in a panic hoof it, mentioned a few times on the individual game threads before this one started. That option has largely been taken away, still lump it forward for Bent to chase (but he really hasn't had more than a run of 2 games fully fit so far). With Welbeck out and very limited options in midfield it will be interesting to see today. Gyan is a totally different type of player, don't really notice him then he will do something in a game, still settling in.
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I know what you were saying but it ended up like something a Trini would say...
I saw that too, lol. Kev, the way you used 'rate' is the way a Trini would ("I doh even rate Bramble"). I think you been hanging around these parts too long ;D
Maybe, must try harder, anyway some from your area lot the way we say Man (apologies if thats Jamacia not TnT), so I think its only fair. ;D
PS I do genuinely enjoy reading the board and do have my say on things now and again, less agro now that Kenwyne has moved. It must be a record for the thread as I haven't seen "Tata Team" for at least a dozen posts (mostly mine).
As the next match is after Christmas, I will wish you all a very Merry Christmas now. I hope Santa is good to one and all, remember be good, if you can't be good, be careful, if you can't do either, don't get caught.
lol @"remember be good, if you can't be good, be careful, if you can't do either, don't get caught."
lol kev think I'm gonna borrow that quote ........ in any event gonna need sunderland to take some points off manu! manu's offense is no where near as potent as they used to be and you guys pla stubborn "d" and to that if your strikers run directly at their defense I think they will crack!
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Only 2 which was lucky.
Not a surprise made not the quickest Manu team look like the USA 100 Metres Champions.
Blackpool, Tuesday.
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Sunderland v Blackpool KO 3.00 GMT
Maybe get a link.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=99743&part=sports
Like Blackpool, Holloway is a star (mad as a hatter)
Cattermole is back from suspension (not the last time that phrase will be used this season), Welbeck should be back in and maybe Bramble.
Performances haven't been great, but we keep getting away with it, Blackpool can't really defend so have to see.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9317216.stm
Sunderland 0 - 2 Blackpool
By Owen Phillips
DJ Campbell grabbed a second-half double as Blackpool made Sunderland pay for a host of missed chances to secure a fifth away league win of the season.
Asamoah Gyan, Darren Bent and Danny Welbeck all squandered good openings and visiting goalkeeper Richard Kingson made a number of excellent stops.
But Campbell shot home from Ian Evatt's headed flick to make it 1-0.
Bent hit the bar with a fine free-kick but Campbell added a second in injury time from Matt Phillips's low cross.
But Sunderland will be left scratching their heads at the result after creating enough chances to have won two games in a refreshingly open and frantic first period.
Welbeck, Bent, Jordan Henderson and Gyan all spurned at least two opportunities apiece as the hosts dominated possession and territory.
Bent twice sent efforts wide of the far post after cutting in from the left, Wellbeck missed his kick from an inviting centre and failed to get on the end of a looping pass when six yards out.
Henderson's best strike on goal saw goalkeeper Kingson uncomfortably fumble his measured shot around the post.
But Gyan missed the best openings, shooting into the side-netting after showing good strength when chasing a long pass, and then hopelessly miskicking from six yards out.
Blackpool were not without their opportunities - thanks to their willingness to commit and leave men forward even when under severe pressure - and they looked very capable of scoring on the break.
Campbell, in particular, looked bright and sharp and one clever turn on the edge of the box after a breathtaking run from first-half substitute Phillips - on for the injured Elliott Grandin - almost produced a great counter-attacking goal.
Luke Varney also tested home keeper Craig Gordon and Campbell whistled a shot narrowly wide after a purposeful run.
But because of their dominance in the middle of the park and the sheer volume of chances, Sunderland boss Steve Bruce must have been staggered and sickened in equal measure when the visitors took the lead five minutes after the break.
Clever interplay on the right allowed Neal Eardley to deliver the ball into the box and when his cross was flicked on by Evatt, Campbell was on hand to fire home from 10 yards.
The Seasiders could have doubled their lead with Gary Taylor-Fletcher almost converting a far-post cross and Craig Cathcart somehow missing a free header when it seemed easier to score.
But as the second half wore on, Sunderland piled forward at every opportunity and their relentless pressure looked certain to be rewarded in the closing stages.
Blackpool, chasing a seventh win in 17 league matches, simply could not contain Sunderland's rampant attack and had to resort to a combination of last-ditch defending, fine goalkeeping and a large slice of fortune.
Substitute Steed Malbranque's strike was beaten away by the over-worked - if not entirely convincing - Kingson, and the keeper also did well to keep out Henderson's 18-yard strike.
The best chances, however, came in the last 10 minutes.
Some comical defending involving two terrible clearances saw Kingson called on to block Welbeck's strike and then Evatt made amends for his shocking miscue by heading Bent's powerful follow-up over the bar.
Bent then came the closest to a home goal all afternoon with a stunning 25-yard free-kick that crashed back down off the bar and to safety.
And Blackpool made the game safe in injury-time when the impressive Phillips tricked his way into the box and crossed for Campbell who smashed the ball home via the bar.
Blackpool boss Ian Holloway was incensed that Titus Bramble - an early replacement for the injured Nedum Onuoha - was only shown a yellow card for a late challenge.
However nothing could spoil another wonderful day for a side who are in eighth spot in the Premier League table. They sit just two points behind Sunderland but because of their three recent postponements they also have three games in hand.
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First off what a cracking game, crazy games like this is why people fall in love with football.
How we managed to lose is a bit of a mystery, Bent should of had 3 (plus a free kick off the underside of the bar), Gyan missed 2 sitters and a couple of blocks by other players, keeper.
We lost because of a combination of poor finishing and poor defending. But we have had many more points this season that we didn't deserve so no complaints from me.
I really hope Blackpool survive, they should do, but can't continue carrying luck like that similar to ourselves, but it shows other chairman / players what is possible and they don't need to be spending money on those kinds of wages for mediorce players. Bruce should take a look at their passing and movement, how quickly they get both players and the ball forward, not just hoofing it.
Next match, New Years day v Blackburn.
Everyone take care and have a safe New Years Eve, see you all on the hangover side :cheers:
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Sunderland v Blackburn KO 3.00 PM GMT
Possible link ( but doubt it)
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=100184&part=sports
Team news, Sunderland are without Cattermole, Gyan and Onuoha are also likely to miss due to injury. Blackburn have quite a few missing aswell Robinson, Samba and a few others through injury / suspensions. Unlikely to be like the Blackpool game and not expecting much entertainment.
Hope everyone and a great night and happy New Year to all, Hope 2011 brings everything you wish for.
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Sunderland v Blackburn KO 3.00 PM GMT
Possible link ( but doubt it)
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=100184&part=sports
Team news, Sunderland are without Cattermole, Gyan and Onuoha are also likely to miss due to injury. Blackburn have quite a few missing aswell Robinson, Samba and a few others through injury / suspensions. Unlikely to be like the Blackpool game and not expecting much entertainment.
Hope everyone and a great night and happy New Year to all, Hope 2011 brings everything you wish for.
Good win by Sun'lun... as is to be expected against Blackburn.
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It was a decent game, Bent missed an absolute sitter aswell as scoring a good goal, as did Gyan. Not so sure about his injuries though, I suspect exagerated. Blackburn were poor, constantly giving the ball away and it was a bit of a training match tbh. Another 10 points and can relax.
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Villa v Sunderland KO 7.45 GMT
possible links
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=100194&part=sports
Villa are having a poor season but getting there players back now. Few injury concerns for us.
Haven't a clue as I still don't know which team will turn up.
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Scrappy game but another 3 points at a cost.
Meyler done his knee again, same as last time no tackle involved, looked bad, feel really sorry for the young lad, if it is what I think it is won't see him again this season.
Welbeck done his hamstring, again out for a while. Struggling for bodies in midfield.
As above the game was scrappy, Heskey got sent off for putting a hand on / upto Hendersons face, I would say it was soft (although letter of the law) and would be agrieved if it had of been one of our players. The ref evened it up by giving Zenden a soft 2nd yellow, both harsh. 3 more wins safe.
Gyan missed a sitter to put the match to bed.
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Sunderland v Notts County FA Cup KO 3.00 pm GMT
There won't be any links.
Struggling with injuries Bruce has recalled Reid and Colback from loans and will likely play them along with other youngsters so will be a very different team put out today.
Some good news on Meyler it is looking like he has done his medial not cruciate again (sorry if spelling is wrong, or wrong way around) so not as bad as thought / looked. Waiting result of scans, hope the lad is OK and he looks like a decent prospect.
On the transfer side Bruce is trying to get Muntari (Inter) and Sessegnon (PSG) on loan and another one in. Only know a little about Muntari from a couple of games I seen him against us, just remember I was surprised he went to inter for so much. Haved looked at the obligatory Utube vid of Sessegnon and looks like he has a few tricks and a possible intermittent balance problem ;D but can't really tell until you have seen them for a decent amount of games. Still no news on a LB though ???
Hope you all have a nice weekend
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Sunderland v Notts County FA Cup KO 3.00 pm GMT
There won't be any links.
Struggling with injuries Bruce has recalled Reid and Colback from loans and will likely play them along with other youngsters so will be a very different team put out today.
Some good news on Meyler it is looking like he has done his medial not cruciate again (sorry if spelling is wrong, or wrong way around) so not as bad as thought / looked. Waiting result of scans, hope the lad is OK and he looks like a decent prospect.
On the transfer side Bruce is trying to get Muntari (Inter) and Sessegnon (PSG) on loan and another one in. Only know a little about Muntari from a couple of games I seen him against us, just remember I was surprised he went to inter for so much. Haved looked at the obligatory Utube vid of Sessegnon and looks like he has a few tricks and a possible intermittent balance problem ;D but can't really tell until you have seen them for a decent amount of games. Still no news on a LB though ???
Hope you all have a nice weekend
Very good center mid, better than anything you have on your roster right now including henderson. i'm really surprised that he's even considering playing for yuhs guys especially when teams like chelsea and liverpool who are struggling would love to have such a talent in their midfield, i'm also surprised that man city didn't put in a bid.
my guess iz, gyan is probably trying to get him to sign since they are international teammates. but a very good prospect is he.
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JC hope your keeping well and had a good festive period.
Henderson isn't a CM imho although Bruce plays him there, he is better wide.
Muntari's wife wants to be in London, so I would imagine thats where he will end up tbh.
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JC hope your keeping well and had a good festive period.
Henderson isn't a CM imho although Bruce plays him there, he is better wide.
Muntari's wife wants to be in London, so I would imagine thats where he will end up tbh.
Please, those african guys don't listen to their wives. ;D i believe gyan will pull him through for yuhs guys since i heard rumors that gyan is feeling home sick, i'm pretty sure a familiar face would cheer him up.
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Bruce: Paul Ince pointed gun at Sir Alex
January 8, 2011
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Steve Bruce has revealed that Paul Ince once arrived at the club's training ground with his gun in jest to get Sir Alex Ferguson to put him in the Manchester United team.
Sunderland boss Bruce, speaking ahead of his date with Ince's Notts County in the FA Cup, said that Ince turned up with an air rifle and pointed it around the door at the United boss.
"Paul was nuts when he was a kid," said Bruce. "I don't think Fergie was ever attacked by a rifle before.
"I remember when he brought in his gun. He poked it around the door and it was a big air rifle. Fergie must have shouted at him or something like that to provoke it.
"Incey was larger than life and a good character to have around. He must have had something about him to threaten Fergie with a gun. We saw him do it. He poked the gun through the door and he was only 22 at the time.
"It was just tongue in cheek, though. He just knocked on the door and said something like, 'You'd better stop picking on me' or, 'You had better play me on Saturday'.
"He liked to think he was the Guv'nor. It just showed you how much front and bottle he had to be called the Guv'nor even when he first walked in the door.
"I just thought, 'Who's this cocky little thing from West Ham?' But when you're cocky like him you have to be able to back it up - and by god he was a good player. To have him and Roy Keane in front of me in their prime, with Andrei Kanchelskis and Ryan Giggs on the wings and Mark Hughes and Eric Cantona up front, that was some team I can tell you. It could do everything.
"We respected Incey straight away as a player. He has mellowed and matured since he became a dad. He just carries a pistol now rather than a rifle!
"He'll be going grey around the gills now and he won't like that, but he's a good lad."
Ince talked about his friendship with Bruce at Old Trafford, with the pair striking up a good relationship off the pitch.
"When I went to United I gravitated towards Bruce because he likes a beer - still does by the size of him. We are very good friends. Our houses were about 200 yards apart and we mixed socially. We go on holiday every year to the Algarve. We are very close.
"He looked after me at United and I get pleasure in seeing him do well at Sunderland. He can hopefully go on and become England manager.
"Bruce has the respect of players at Sunderland. The players can relate to him. You've got to have a bond with them. They have to be able to come to you with their problems, even if it's not football-related."
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Deservedly beaten, didn't turn up, although a lot of changes and 2 of the midfield have only been back at the club a day or 2, but still. Bent still off form although scored from the spot. Performances still not good.
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Sunderland v Newcastle KO 12.00 GMT.
Timed to avoid drink and crowd trouble.
Not live in UK but plenty others, so may get it here.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=100214&part=sports
I cannot stress how important this game is for the locals especially after the debacle at St James Park. Had rumours of return of some injured players and Bruce's usually "will only risk if 100% fit" which means he will of course.
Newcastle are missing Caroll and Tiote ( looked a good player for me).
I haven't a clue on the team or whether they will turn up, expect a blood and guts affair, I doubt it will be a pretty sight.
No real news on transfers except Sessegnon deal looks like it will have to be a purchase not a loan for PSG to let him away, understandable and Muntari looks like he can leave with the probable destination London.
Hope you had a nice weekend.
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Boy i would love tuh see nolan do his chicken dance today. :devil: no disrespect to your team kev, but the kevin nolan chicken dance is ah classic and funny as all hell. :rotfl:
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u tellin me newcastle cudnt come wit ah plain colour kit?...mus b do it fuh spite..
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De flikin picture change to a cooking show oui.
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Gyan ent even know what happen dey.
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Boy i would love tuh see nolan do his chicken dance today. :devil: no disrespect to your team kev, but the kevin nolan chicken dance is ah classic and funny as all hell. :rotfl:
Pock pock pock pock pococ :devil: :devil: way tuh go nolan, yuh made my morning. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :heehee:
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Nee problem JC.
Game as expected another fortunate point, bottled it again. ???
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According to BBC, Darren Bent handed in a transfer request after yesterday's derby. Looks like he's going to Villa - 18 mil rising to 24 mil. Ready to Go message board in meltdown!
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He has, he is in Birmingham waiting for permission to speak to them. He handed a request in August aswell just been reported on SSN As I have been saying hasn't looked quite right, makes sense of the Gyan signing. I don't know whats gone on, but Newcastle where he has been living is a small city he got his car done by newcastle fans and he is a southern lad. He seems to like City life as he had an apartment on the quayside, might of decided he just doesn't need the hassle of another big pay day, who knows. I know where we would of been without him.
I think the club will let him go, as last season they seen Kenwyne's value drop significantly and its pointless keeping a player that doesn't want to be here. The squad needs a fair injection and a couple of good midfielders would make a big difference. Good luck to him whatever happens.
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According to BBC, Darren Bent handed in a transfer request after yesterday's derby. Looks like he's going to Villa - 18 mil rising to 24 mil. Ready to Go message board in meltdown!
18mil-24mil for what? :o How sides does keep putting out big money for this fella is shocking! If Aston Villa pays that for him they deserve to be relegated! Open the trap door!
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According to BBC, Darren Bent handed in a transfer request after yesterday's derby. Looks like he's going to Villa - 18 mil rising to 24 mil. Ready to Go message board in meltdown!
18mil-24mil for what? :o How sides does keep putting out big money for this fella is shocking! If Aston Villa pays that for him they deserve to be relegated! Open the trap door!
The man is the main reason Sunderland still in the Premiership. He score 32 goals in 58 games. Not too shabby
He's a very good player. He ent playing for the top 4 teams but if he was he would easily score 20-25 goals ah season with the abundance of chances those teams create compared to Sunderland where is few and far between.
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Bent asks to quit Black Cats
Skysports.com
Villa make £18million bid for England striker
Sunderland striker Darren Bent has handed in a transfer request after Aston Villa made an £18million move for the England international.
Bent has been a regular scorer for the Black Cats since joining from Tottenham 18 months ago, but he has now asked to quit the North East.
He has scored 36 goals in 63 appearances during his time on Wearside following his £10million switch from Tottenham.
The 26-year-old has flourished under Steve Bruce's management at the Stadium of Light, but now appears to be bringing the curtain down on his time with Sunderland.
Sunderland have confirmed Bent's request to leave and have a big decision to make over whether to accept Villa's huge offer.
A club statement read: "The club can confirm that it received a written transfer request from Darren Bent following yesterday's Wear-Tyne derby match."
Villa boss Gerard Houllier is trying to assemble a squad capable of staying in the Premier League and goals have been in short supply this season.
Coup
The team have scored just 24 goals in 22 Premier League games this term and Stewart Downing is the top scorer with five, followed by fellow winger Marc Albrighton with four goals.
The current strikers at Houllier's disposal have failed to fire, with Emile Heskey scoring three times, while John Carew and Gabriel Agbonlahor have yet to get off the mark in the Premier League.
A deal for Bent would provide Houllier's squad with a major injection of goals and lift a Villa team that are currently short on confidence.
The offer for the former Charlton Athletic hit-man also represents a major show of support in Houllier from Villa owner Randy Lerner following a difficult start to the Frenchman's tenure at Villa Park.
Houllier has already splashed out £6million to sign Jean II Makoun in January, in addition to bringing in Kyle Walker on loan, and a swoop for Bent would be a coup for Villa at this stage of the season.
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According to BBC, Darren Bent handed in a transfer request after yesterday's derby. Looks like he's going to Villa - 18 mil rising to 24 mil. Ready to Go message board in meltdown!
18mil-24mil for what? :o How sides does keep putting out big money for this fella is shocking! If Aston Villa pays that for him they deserve to be relegated! Open the trap door!
This might have something to do with it:
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Bent has one of the best strike rates during recent seasons in the Premier League.
Since 2005 he has scored 81 league goals, with only Manchester United's Wayne Rooney and Chelsea forward Didier Drogba ahead of him in the scoring charts with 82.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/9364092.stm
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According to BBC, Darren Bent handed in a transfer request after yesterday's derby. Looks like he's going to Villa - 18 mil rising to 24 mil. Ready to Go message board in meltdown!
18mil-24mil for what? :o How sides does keep putting out big money for this fella is shocking! If Aston Villa pays that for him they deserve to be relegated! Open the trap door!
The man is the main reason Sunderland still in the Premiership. He score 32 goals in 58 games. Not too shabby
He's a very good player. He ent playing for the top 4 teams but if he was he would easily score 20-25 goals ah season with the abundance of chances those teams create compared to Sunderland where is few and far between.
I thought he success at Sunderland was due to KJ's presence? ;) But seriously I don't rate as a player, even scoring the goals he has, don't think he is a 18mil-24mil player. I don't think he could cut it at a top 4 side; he can't even get run in England's shitty squad. IMO.
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According to BBC, Darren Bent handed in a transfer request after yesterday's derby. Looks like he's going to Villa - 18 mil rising to 24 mil. Ready to Go message board in meltdown!
18mil-24mil for what? :o How sides does keep putting out big money for this fella is shocking! If Aston Villa pays that for him they deserve to be relegated! Open the trap door!
he guarantees you at least 15 prem goals a season... 18 million pounds is nothing in Football these days.. f**king Jo was 20+ million
he is a goal scorer... he is 26.. that is good value
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According to BBC, Darren Bent handed in a transfer request after yesterday's derby. Looks like he's going to Villa - 18 mil rising to 24 mil. Ready to Go message board in meltdown!
18mil-24mil for what? :o How sides does keep putting out big money for this fella is shocking! If Aston Villa pays that for him they deserve to be relegated! Open the trap door!
This might have something to do with it:
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Bent has one of the best strike rates during recent seasons in the Premier League.
Since 2005 he has scored 81 league goals, with only Manchester United's Wayne Rooney and Chelsea forward Didier Drogba ahead of him in the scoring charts with 82.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/9364092.stm
Yet Drogba is 50x better than Rooney right ::) ::)
Rooney is like 7 years younger than Drogba and has the same amount of prem goals... and does more for the team..can play multiple positions
It feels like Drog scores more.. but thanks to the stats.. he doesnt
Forza Wazza
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Darren Bent is a prolific scorer....IF he's your main striker and doesn't have to compete for his place. From what I've seen if he loses his spot rather than work hard to regain his place he'll just sulk. I don't know if he's worth 18 million but Villa is a good fit for him and his goals will definitely keep them in the premiership so it's a win for everybody (at least until Villa improve their strike force and Bent goes off the boil again.
Maybe Sunderland will take that money and get Robbie Keane off our payroll ;D
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According to BBC, Darren Bent handed in a transfer request after yesterday's derby. Looks like he's going to Villa - 18 mil rising to 24 mil. Ready to Go message board in meltdown!
18mil-24mil for what? :o How sides does keep putting out big money for this fella is shocking! If Aston Villa pays that for him they deserve to be relegated! Open the trap door!
Bent is what he is and thats a goalscorer, no more no less. He isn't a target man, doesn't pretend to be a fancy footballer, but here's the bit, he puts the ball in the net regular as clockwork, he misses his fair share, but doesn't give a monkeys will be there for the next.
The EPL is worth about £35-40 Million a season to clubs, (at least) so Villa are in danger of relegation, if (when) he goes there he will score goals as he has wherever he has been. Now if that happens and he makes the difference between in or out of the league, guess what the owner, manager and all the fans will say cheap at the price.
His goals kept us in the division last year, more than paid his fee 3 times over.
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I just read 4 of that 18 million goes to Spurs....if the transfer goes through ;D
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I just read 4 of that 18 million goes to Spurs....if the transfer goes through ;D
May be they will use that to buy and sign Pienaar.
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This news is shocking. Bent seemed to have found his football home at Sunderland. He is worth the 18 mil especially if he is going to Villa, or stated differently 18 mil is a fair price for Villa to pay given their circumstances. Steve Bruce probably has the managerial skills to make a wonder move for another player --- we will see.
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This news is shocking. Bent seemed to have found his football home at Sunderland. He is worth the 18 mil especially if he is going to Villa, or stated differently 18 mil is a fair price for Villa to pay given their circumstances. Steve Bruce probably has the managerial skills to make a wonder move for another player --- we will see.
More faith than me
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Bent seals Aston Villa switch
January 18, 2011
By ESPNsoccernet staff
New Aston Villa striker Darren Bent said he can't way to play for "a massive football club" after completing his transfer from Sunderland on Tuesday.
Bent will be officially unveiled as a Villa player at 1900 GMT following his move from the Stadium of Light for an undisclosed fee, believed to be in the region of £24 million including add-ons..
The former Tottenham and Charlton frontman has signed a four-and-a-half year deal with Villa and becomes Gerard Houllier's second January signing after Jean Makoun, who arrived from Lyon for £6 million last week.
Bent completed a medical and agreed personal terms and will be available to make his Villa debut against Manchester City on Saturday at Villa Park.
"Aston Villa is a massive football club and as soon as I knew they were interested in signing me I wanted to join," Bent said. "The size of the football club and the history of the club are major reasons for me coming here.
"There are some top, top players here too, real quality, and I've been able to speak to the manager and the chairman about their ambitions for the club, so I'm very excited about being a part of what we hope to achieve."
Sunderland manager Steve Bruce was fuming at Bent's exit. He told the club's official website: "It's hugely disappointing that Darren has decided that his future lies away from Sunderland and the players, our supporters and the club as a whole have every right to feel massively let down.
"The timing is especially hard to take, given that we are progressing positively and are in a great position to push on. Everyone has been nothing but supportive of Darren in his time at Sunderland but it's obvious he's not been himself in training and we've certainly not seen the best of him in games in recent weeks - and we now understand why.
"I've always stated that my aim is to build a talented, young squad for the long-term to help the club achieve sustained success and I want Sunderland fans to know that our ambitions haven't changed on that front."
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/867547/darren-bent-seals-aston-villa-switch-s?cc=3888
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I just read 4 of that 18 million goes to Spurs....if the transfer goes through ;D
May be they will use that to buy and sign Pienaar.
Done!
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I just read 4 of that 18 million goes to Spurs....if the transfer goes through ;D
May be they will use that to buy and sign Pienaar.
Done!
I guss he figure he will grt more run playing for Spurs than if he went to Chelski. Will be interesting to see how he fits in. By the way why does it seem that Arry doesn't like Robbie Keane or why has he become out of favor?
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Robbie came back from Liverpool a shadow of his former self and has never got any where near the form he had before he left. To be fair the dynamic of the team was different when he came back so that may be part of the problem.
Maybe a change of scenery would do him good...What do you think Kev ;) ?
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Robbie came back from Liverpool a shadow of his former self and has never got any where near the form he had before he left. To be fair the dynamic of the team was different when he came back so that may be part of the problem.
Maybe a change of scenery would do him good...What do you think Kev ;) ?
I forgot dude when to Liverpool and ended up limpin back! He should return to Scotland, seems like it suits he at this stage of his career.
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Bent's gone load of rubbish being printed about money etc. personally think there's more to it than that, as I ahve said for many weeks he has looked out of sorts. A big headline amking transfer fee means getting linked with everone and their dog. Hopefully will sort out midfeild with some of the cash.
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Ouch that must be painful for Sunderland.
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They real slaggin off bent on the SMB! :o it's almost like he never scored ah single goal for that club, barely any compliments were paid to the guy, in comparison, KJ looked like a complete saint, and he was. ;D
funny how bent said yesterday that he loved playing with KJ, (that's BC KJ is not ah selfish prick like most strikers!) i guess that's not saying much for gyan's ability in the assist department, and rightfully so! i saw on many occasions where gyan went for glory rather than pass to an open bent.
i believe bruce and his policies was the reason for both their departure. JMO. :devil:
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Yeh they sayin Bent asked to be transferred in the last off-season. That would have meant losing their top 2 strikers at once and so they kept Bent until they could sign replacements.
Something is off in the Sunderland camp.
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The reason why so many people are upset at Bent he kept going on about how much he loved the club, wanted to be a legend etc. and fans being fans beleieved him, so thats why so upset as they feel betrayed. I ahve seen it far too many times off players from different clubs to believe any of that tata, so personally not bothered. But there is more to it than money as I stated before imho.
To make matters worse Welbeck has to have an exploratory knee op so is out for at least 6 weeks, so down to Gyan as only striker. Club are looking for a target type man as short term, to get them to the summer as they are simply not going to get a replacement this window, various names Carew, Bothroyd have ben linked. Need a body in there and makes sense. But need to sort out midfield.
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The reason why so many people are upset at Bent he kept going on about how much he loved the club, wanted to be a legend etc. and fans being fans beleieved him, so thats why so upset as they feel betrayed. I ahve seen it far too many times off players from different clubs to believe any of that tata, so personally not bothered. But there is more to it than money as I stated before imho.
To make matters worse Welbeck has to have an exploratory knee op so is out for at least 6 weeks, so down to Gyan as only striker. Club are looking for a target type man as short term, to get them to the summer as they are simply not going to get a replacement this window, various names Carew, Bothroyd have ben linked. Need a body in there and makes sense. But need to sort out midfield.
This much i understand, but yet still, i read @ least 7 threads all doggin the guy and callin him a money grabber, in which case most modern sports figurs are. ;D
i don't blame any player for trying to get paid, especially since club football has evolved into a billion dollar industry, so why shouldn't the main attraction (which are the players of course) seek their fair share ?
i think most english club fans are seriously deluded to think anyone of these players gives ah rat's arse about a club, they are stuck in the past when there was true grit gut pride football, but those glory days are long gone ! i guess what i meant to say is, the true football glory (playing for pride and honor) is international football, but as we all know, club football presently is pure unadulterated business, the fans should know better.
i'm sure kenwyne is laughing his arse off as we speak. :devil:
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JC it's all about how he went on when at the club, the board is not as well managed as this or some others, there are always a number of threads on the same subject (no matter what it is) on the same page, mostly because people like to shout I'm here look at me.
Kenwyne never got anywhere near that stick because he didn't do anything like Bent, the only time Kenwyne got that stick was when he said he was off if we were relegated the week of the last game, quite rightly so aswell imho. All he got was the usual he's tata anyway, which is par for the course by some fans of all clubs when a player leaves
We all know its about money, nothing more nothing less, there are of course the very few exceptions.
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Chase on for Potters pair
Black Cats and Blues keen on Fuller and Tuncay
Skysports.com understands Sunderland and Birmingham are to battle it out for Stoke duo Ricardo Fuller and Tuncay.
The Black Cats are in the market for attacking talent after offloading Darren Bent to Aston Villa.
While they are disappointed to have seen their top marksman head for the exits, they do have money to spend after recouping an initial £18million from Villa.
They have wasted little in time in identifying potential replacements for England international Bent, and feel Fuller and Tuncay would be useful additions.
Birmingham are also keeping a close eye on the situation, though, with Alex McLeish having spent much of the winter window looking to bolster his attacking ranks.
Bolton are also reportedly keen on Fuller, but it is believed that Sunderland currently lead the chase for the Jamaican frontman and his Potters team-mate Tuncay.
Fuller remains an important part of Tony Pulis' plans at the Britannia Stadium, so it is likely a sizeable bid will be required to lure him away, but Turkey international Tuncay has struggled to hold down a regular role since joining the club from Middlesbrough and may be tempted to try his luck elsewhere.
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I'll show my arse in shepards window (used to be a big high street shop) if we sign Fuller. Always thought Tuncay is a good player, never really given a chance at Stoke as not 6ft plus and will be moved on, waste really.
I have lost count of how many players we have been linked with over the past couple of days, Sessegnon is supposedly still ongoing, think the club are trying the normal window signing of NZogbia (decent player).
They do need a body up front as it has been confirmed that Welbeck is out for 6-8 weeks.
Oops I might just be doing that, not a pretty sight I can assure you, although it is my best feature :D
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Sunderland agree fee for Stoke City striker Fuller
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/9369178.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/9369178.stm)
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Kev??
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Sunderland agree fee for Stoke City striker Fuller
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/9369178.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/9369178.stm)
Latest news is Fuller to Sunderland is not now going ahead. It was initially thought that the deal could be done in time for Sunderland's game against Blackpool tomorrow, but Fuller has travelled with Stoke to Fulham.
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Kev??
The latest stuff going around is SSN reported the Fuller report was way off the mark, the fee being touted up here is £1.5 Million not £3 Million. Injury record etc just doesn't make sense to me. We are going to have to get a body in "target man" but who is anybodies guess. Fuller wouldn't even pass a medical, if I was the owner I wouldn't let it though tbh. Any striker will be short term, I thought the club might get Bothroyd from Cardiff as in last 6 months of contract.
We are supposedly very close to Sessegnon. (reported he is coming for medical at weekend)
We have made an approach (again) for Nzogbia
Muntari thing is still going on but still looks like London.
I might not yet have to bare my cheeks as above post, but I'm not holding my breath.
Blackpool tomorrow (We are supposedly after Charlie Adam aswell)
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Blackpool V Sunderland KO 3.00 PM GMT
Doubt there will be any working links but you can try.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=101957&part=sports
Still quite a few out injured and only Gyan available up front, still wonder which team will turn up no matter who's playing. Good game at home with Blackpool, still don't know how we managed to lose that one, should be a decent game today. Hopefully a couple of new recruits for next match.
Hope you all have a nice weekend
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Decent game another 3 points only need 3-6 more and job done. Never a penalty.
Hope to get a couple of new players, the papers are now saying we are favourites to land Mutari on Tuesday possibly, West Ham being another just have to wait and see.
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Muntari is at Sunderland with a view to loan move, might even be completed today.
Sessegnon is also at the club sorting out a move, again might be completed today.
No further news on striker, Fuller is crazy money for injuries / age / goal, club would be mad.
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http://www.safc.com/news/20110129/sunderland-complete-muntari-deal_2256213_2279598
Sunderland complete Muntari deal
Sunderland have tied up a loan deal for Internazionale midfielder Sulley Muntari.
Sunderland have signed Internazionale midfielder Sulley Muntari on loan until the end of the season.
The Ghana international, 26, won the treble under Jose Mourinho last season, picking up Serie A, Coppa Italia and Champions' League winners medals.
Muntari's CV also includes an FA Cup, a second Serie A championship, a FIFA Club World Cup and a Supercoppa Italia.
He joins international team-mates Asamoah Gyan and John Mensah on Wearside.
Signed by Udinese from Liberty Professionals in 2001, Muntari made 125 appearances for the Italian club and played alongside Gyan at the Stadio Friuli.
He spent a season with Portsmouth in 2007-08, winning the FA Cup with the Fratton Park club before Inter paid 16m euros to acquire his services in July 2008.
Muntari became a cornerstone of Mourinho's powerhouse Inter side and played a key role as the Nerazzuri swept all before them last season.
He has made 59 appearances for Inter, scoring five goals.
The midfielder will not figure against Chelsea on Tuesday but should be available for next Saturday's trip to Stoke.
http://www.safc.com/news/20110129/black-cats-sign-psgs-sessegnon_2256213_2279702
Black Cats sign PSG's Sessegnon
Sunderland have signed playmaker Stephane Sessegnon from PSG, safc.com can confirm.
Sunderland have completed the signing of Paris Saint-Germain midfielder Stephane Sessegnon.
The 26-year-old moves to the Stadium of Light for a fee of 7million euros (£6m approx) and has signed a three and a half year deal.
Sessegnon is Steve Bruce's second signing of the day, with the deal going through just a couple of hours after Sulley Muntari joined on loan from Internazionale.
Capped 36 times by Benin, Sessegnon can be deployed in a variety of attacking midfield roles or alongside a striker.
Sessegon began his career in his home country with Requins D'Atlantique before moving to France to join Creteil of Ligue 2, for whom he made 68 appearances.
The skilful midfielder's impressive form earned him a move to the French top flight and Le Mans, appearing 61 times for club during two years in north west France.
PSG paid a reported 8million euros to take the Sessegnon to the Parc des Princes in summer 2008, and he quickly became a regular in a playmaking role.
The player's efforts were rewarded when he was named in the Ligue 1 Team of the Year at the end of the 2008-09 season after helping PSG to an impressive domestic campaign and a spot in the quarter finals of the UEFA Cup.
He was also nominated for the French player of the year award, which was eventually won by Bordeaux's Yoann Gourcuff.
Sessegnon, who could make his debut against Chelsea on Tuesday, made a total of 76 appearances for PSG, scoring eight goals before making his move to Wearside.
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Well yuh finally got a solid center mid who could also play on the left flank, so i don't want tuh hear you complaining about not having a good holding mid. good luck wid dat.
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Well yuh finally got a solid center mid who could also play on the left flank, so i don't want tuh hear you complaining about not having a good holding mid. good luck wid dat.
Its not holding I have a problem with its creativity and getting men forward, hopefully Muntari will help with Sessegnon on one side and Henderson on the other and both getting forward. Alternatively with only one strikr he might play Sessegnon just behind Gyan in a 5 man midfeild.
Chelsea Tuesday so have to wait and see.
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Well my cheeks remain covered, although I think it was a closer run thing than I care to imagine, down to greed really, Stoke wanting too much money and player too much wages.
Sunderland v Chelsea KO 7.45
Should be a working link or two.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=103720&part=sports
Muntari won't be playing to Sessegnon will be, looking forward to seeing him, wonder how long he will last as hasn't really been training for a month.
Torres won't be playing for Chelski.
Don't know what team will turn up, but hope we can do the double and pray Gyan doesn't pick up a knock as he is the only fit striker we have.
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Cracking game, poor defending, Chelsea certainly played liked they owed us one.
Sessegnon must of thought the game was on Fast Forward or something, given how fast end to end it was, not surprisingly it mostly passed him by. Like Gyan had to he will have to learn very quickly there is no waltzing around in this league.
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Stoke v Sunderland KO 12.45 PM GMT
On live in UK should be plenty of links.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=103730&part=sports
WE have never played well at Stoke so here's praying ;)
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That didn't take very long...
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Gordon attacking some of those high balls like a blind man who trying to feel his way around! I like the new short man from the French league Sunderland just get in the transfer window. Low center of gravity and skill full. Sunderland have a good African mix in the side.
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Stoke eh pretty atall, but they effective.
In fact, my mouth doh have spit b/c i steupsin over bad passing, but let them get a set play near the box...
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Stoke eh pretty atall, but they effective.
In fact, my mouth doh have spit b/c i steupsin over bad passing, but let them get a set play near the box...
Pennant was pure poison....
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About what I expected from teh defence although Gordon seemed to lose it. Some strange decisions along the way aswell. Had a few computer problems so didn't get to see it all, managed to see all the Stoke goals neither of ours. aarghhh!
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Sunderland v Spuds KO 5.30 PM GMT
Its on live in the UK EPSN? so should be plenty of working links.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=103748&part=sports
Spuds have a game midweek in Champions League so I suspect they will have one eye on that rather than this game.
Will be interesting to see how Muntari and Sessengon get on having had a little more time with the squad and probably a better game for the latter to show something. Still only have Gyan as fit striker. Should be a decent game and hope Bruce doesn't put 5 at the back like last week.
Have a nice weekend
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Tough luck today Kev. To say I'm delighted with 3 points is an understatement, our midfield was pretty makeshift and few have won at the Stadium of Light this season.
You had a lot more play going forward but it was too narrow and made it easy for us to defend. We had 2 shots on goal and scored them both otherwise we didn't have much in terms of attack.
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Sunderland gone from Trini, UK to Ghana, UK ::)
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Tough luck today Kev. To say I'm delighted with 3 points is an understatement, our midfield was pretty makeshift and few have won at the Stadium of Light this season.
You had a lot more play going forward but it was too narrow and made it easy for us to defend. We had 2 shots on goal and scored them both otherwise we didn't have much in terms of attack.
I thought the game should of been put to bed 1st half that we dominated, but didn't really create that much. Poor defending again for the 2 goals. The midfield caught clogged up, didn't really use Sessegnon as pace and width, suppose its a little understandable given 2 of the 4 are new into the team. We were far too narrow at both ends of the pitch was the way I seen it aswell. Thought it was a decent game, but you were there for the taking and couldn't manage it.
2 weeks to the next game.
Gyan looks like he is settling well and took his goal from a poor ball in really well.
Thought the ref again made some strange decision, we seem to be in silly season for them at the minute, in all EPL games not just ours.
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Everton v Sunderland KO 3.00 PM GMT
Maybe a working link
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=106279&part=sports
http://www.atdhenet.tv/
Never do well against Everton and Cahill always scores (if he plays), will we turn up, anybodies guess. I have low expectations of this one tbh.
Bruce has just signed an extended contract until 2014 ::)
Have a nice weekend
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As expected a truly woeful performance
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Arsenal v Sunderland KO 3.00 PM GMT
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=107184&part=sports
With injuries and a Champions League game against Barcelona coming up it should be a good time to play Arsenal, but it should of been the same against Spurs. Very low expectations of the match again and the team "turning up".
Have a nice weekend.
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A very exciting game today! Sunderland displayed one of the best defensive efforts I have seen in a long time, and it is true that they did have a little bit of luck. The team could still end the season in a respectable position.
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A decent performance against a fairly lack lustre Arsenal to be honest. A little luck, offside that was given but one of those so close that you couldn't blame the linesman whatever way he gave it and a possible penalty. Defence was iffy again.
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Man City v Sunderland 4.00 PM GMT KO
Live in UK so should be plenty of links if you want
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=110857&part=sports
Table is looking interesting need to limp over the line, a couple of bad results and good ones for those at the bottom and could be right in it. One win should be enough.
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The EPL game on Sunday is at a very convenient time (breakfast time) for us on the West Coast and so it is usually nice to catch it.
Sunderland gave up after the second goal.
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The EPL game on Sunday is at a very convenient time (breakfast time) for us on the West Coast and so it is usually nice to catch it.
Sunderland gave up after the second goal.
Personally think they had given up before KO.
Adject although not surprising performance.
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The EPL game on Sunday is at a very convenient time (breakfast time) for us on the West Coast and so it is usually nice to catch it.
Sunderland gave up after the second goal.
Personally think they had given up before KO.
Adject although not surprising performance.
No Jones + No Bent = No Good
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The EPL game on Sunday is at a very convenient time (breakfast time) for us on the West Coast and so it is usually nice to catch it.
Sunderland gave up after the second goal.
Personally think they had given up before KO.
Adject although not surprising performance.
No Jones + No Bent = No Good
Na, try again
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The EPL game on Sunday is at a very convenient time (breakfast time) for us on the West Coast and so it is usually nice to catch it.
Sunderland gave up after the second goal.
Personally think they had given up before KO.
Adject although not surprising performance.
Does Lee Catermoe (excsuse the spelling) have a footballing brain? And what exactly does he bring to the team besides English agression? I would love to see their win loss record with and with out him in the side. Sunderland needs decent/creative midfielders. They have good forwards and a decent defense. They also need to play Henderson less; he looks like he bun!
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The EPL game on Sunday is at a very convenient time (breakfast time) for us on the West Coast and so it is usually nice to catch it.
Sunderland gave up after the second goal.
Personally think they had given up before KO.
Adject although not surprising performance.
No Jones + No Bent = No Good
The absence of Jones is not a real loss for Sunderland, and in some ways the team seems to be playing better without him. Sunderland is a good side. The new defender Mensah is good; Welbeck is impressive …. etc .
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The EPL game on Sunday is at a very convenient time (breakfast time) for us on the West Coast and so it is usually nice to catch it.
Sunderland gave up after the second goal.
Personally think they had given up before KO.
Adject although not surprising performance.
Does Lee Catermoe (excsuse the spelling) have a footballing brain? And what exactly does he bring to the team besides English agression? I would love to see their win loss record with and with out him in the side. Sunderland needs decent/creative midfielders. They have good forwards and a decent defense. They also need to play Henderson less; he looks like he bun!
Cattermole doesn't have a brain full stop. Bruce made him captain and got send off twice in a couple of games, he lacks pace so dives in, even after a yellow card he will do it again. Bruce took him to Wigan from Boro and then here, personally don't think he brings a lot, red card waiting to happen in every game he plays.
We need a creative CM, but disagree about the defence, we have needed a LB for 2 seasons and a CH. As for Henderson he is a young player being constantly played out of position, no matter how hard Bruce wishes / wants he is not a CM as he can't tackle / track back. He really needed to be taken out of the limelight a fair while ago, but there was no one else, like any young player form goes up and down, confidence is low atm and its showing. I think he is a decent player in his right position but not upto the hype.
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Sunderland v West Brom KO 3.00 PM GMT
Haven't a clue how this is going to turn out.
Possible links
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=110864&part=sports
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Oh deary me ::)
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Sunderland v West Brom KO 3.00 PM GMT
Haven't a clue how this is going to turn out.
Possible links
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=110864&part=sports
In the post match interview Bruce complained about the injuries and to be fair it is not so easy to dismiss that point.
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Sunderland v West Brom KO 3.00 PM GMT
Haven't a clue how this is going to turn out.
Possible links
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=110864&part=sports
In the post match interview Bruce complained about the injuries and to be fair it is not so easy to dismiss that point.
Tata happens you deal with it, he didn't. Same excuses same old same old. Far too many poor performances, thank god for the luck we carried early in the season. I am not Bruce's biggest fan as I think he is a mediorce manager, hopefully we survive just and he is replaced in the summer, live in hope.
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Birmingham v Sunderland KO 3.00 PM GMT
Possible links
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=112016&part=sports
Haven't a clue, he's putting in a couple of youngsters.
Some of you will be happy to hear he's starting to get grief and squirming like a pig about injuries, luck etc.
My hope now is that we just scrape by by the bare minimum and start afresh with a new manager next season, most will know I am and never have been Bruce's biggest fan.
Some sad news for Campbell as his knee has gone gain and will need another op, so will be out for a very long while, if indeed it will stand up when done.
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The EPL game on Sunday is at a very convenient time (breakfast time) for us on the West Coast and so it is usually nice to catch it.
Sunderland gave up after the second goal.
Personally think they had given up before KO.
Adject although not surprising performance.
Does Lee Catermoe (excsuse the spelling) have a footballing brain? And what exactly does he bring to the team besides English agression? I would love to see their win loss record with and with out him in the side
It's actually better with him...something like 6-8-5 vs 3-3-5
that doesn't say much though because the bulk of the matches he missed coincided with Bent's and Welbeck's...
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The EPL game on Sunday is at a very convenient time (breakfast time) for us on the West Coast and so it is usually nice to catch it.
Sunderland gave up after the second goal.
Personally think they had given up before KO.
Adject although not surprising performance.
Does Lee Catermoe (excsuse the spelling) have a footballing brain? And what exactly does he bring to the team besides English agression? I would love to see their win loss record with and with out him in the side
It's actually better with him...something like 6-8-5 vs 3-3-5
that doesn't say much though because the bulk of the matches he missed coincided with Bent's and Welbeck's...
It seem swhen he play he always doing something dotish to hurt the side. Not sure what Bruce's plan is for that side or the long term vision.
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The EPL game on Sunday is at a very convenient time (breakfast time) for us on the West Coast and so it is usually nice to catch it.
Sunderland gave up after the second goal.
Personally think they had given up before KO.
Adject although not surprising performance.
Does Lee Catermoe (excsuse the spelling) have a footballing brain? And what exactly does he bring to the team besides English agression? I would love to see their win loss record with and with out him in the side
It's actually better with him...something like 6-8-5 vs 3-3-5
that doesn't say much though because the bulk of the matches he missed coincided with Bent's and Welbeck's...
It seem swhen he play he always doing something dotish to hurt the side. Not sure what Bruce's plan is for that side or the long term vision.
Neither is Bruce tbh :devil:
Lost but to be fair put in a better performance albeit against a poor Birmingham side, 2 soft goals again. I know the 2nd was a screamer, but wtf was he doing with that much time and space in teh middle of the field.
natives are past restless ;D
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kev,I had said these
I don't think its none in practice bruce just don't have him in his plans simple as that... carlos to talented to fail to make a squad because of practice especially behind henderson... hard luck with the lost Sunderland hey it happens but Jones and Bent need to produce against these teams...
Is the right answer imho, for whatever reason.
and I think he will make his mind up one way or the other on Kenwyne between now and Jan / next summer.
Bruce was never good for we, buh as far as Sunderland go (or Bruce or any pro team),it eh bout we, so I cool....the thing I pussonally doh like bout Bruce doh, is when Stern was doing the job, consistently performing/scoring, Bruce was still playing everybody else before him, and still tun an trade the man, even if for Yorke..buh Yorke wasn't really a TTian, he was done trained british....nuthen wrong with that...so alldoh ah feel Jones could play to his trying best under the man, ah don't think Bruce could develop him, and he do need some, an ah sure like Stern & Los, Bruce go eventually stress him to leave or trade his tail for ah one game slump...now ah is usually ah rational man eh, buh ah swear ah TTian musbe horne he rass or someting.....if he really let Carlos go, he didn't give the man ah chance at all, even if Keane did give him ah big one...buh d man now start to come back, and he letting him go..buh Keane done see that if Bruce can't..cause ah d horne...dat man do wha no trinis in camp, round he wife an daughter at all. :devil: ..musbe was Dwight self....yuh see how rumour does start :rotfl:
with the deputies outta town, the sheriff betta hightail it outta Dodge...ah done see how dat outlaw does abuse TT strikers, doh care to see it again...head for the hills, even if Tottenham have none,KJ, if yuh have any say in the matter...Bruce too influenced by Cantona, English, French, then rest ah Europe, after comes everybody else
But who is this guy
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/900738/sunderland-boss-steve-bruce-angrily-denies-racism-claims?cc=5901
personally: I disagree, he is not racist..rightful promotion of British players first, where possible, yes...so therefore, to some measure, I would say nationalist, but think it's far from dislike or dissing of fellow human being thing.....either way, he is still ah chupid coach, an ah not saying that because he from Man U.. :D
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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11695_6884587,00.html
Gordon out for six months
Sunderland have suffered a blow with the news goalkeeper Craig Gordon is to miss their relegation run-in.
The Scotland international is out for four to six months after undergoing knee surgery in Sweden on Monday.
The 28-year-old flew out to see world-renowned tendon specialist Professor Hakan Alfredson and is now recuperating after the operation went well.
Sunderland boss Steve Bruce told the club's official website on Tuesday: "Craig had the operation yesterday and it went well. "He'll be out for about four to six months now.
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Its only half the goalkeeper story.
Mignolet is a young keeper and with young players you expect the form to vary and mistakes, he made mistakes for both goals on Saturday, but tahts what you have to put up with with playing young players and obviously keeper mistakes tend to have more serious reprocussions for the team.
Gordon has been injured a while and been on the bench, holding a watching brief on his knee.
Yesterday morning the papers were running a story in which Bruce was being quoted as saying.
We have asked Gordon to delay his operation due to the situation we are in, and he will be coming back in (into the team) on Saturday.
Now in the afternoon SAFC reeased the news he had had his op and was out for 6 months.
My take on it is that it is farical and extremely poor man management.
Firstly he hasn't done Mignolet's confidence any good by telling everybody he will be out on Saturday. Now he has no choice but with put him back in when Mignolet knows Bruce didn't want him in.
The situation throws up more questions than answers and again put a question mark around Bruce.
If there wsa any question around Gordon having the operation and the appointment was the following day, why didn't Bruce just say nothing and then the whole situation would of been avoided.
It has been obvious for whatever reason that Bruce doesn't get along with Gordon (similar to KJ) he has been very quick to criticise him yet let others players that deserved it off scot free. Gordon in the summer is also in his last year of his contract and the vibes coming from Bruce seemed to suggest he would be moved on (again similar to KJ).
I have no real evidence or facts to back it up but here how I think its gone down, Bruce has pissed off Gordon and asked him to delay the op, Gordon has said something along the lines see what the specialist says and when seen the specialist erred towards the op. Given he has been on the bench the last few weeks would suggest he wasn't that serious / immediate and if the relationship was good between Bruce and Gordon I would of thought the player would of done everything possible. I don't attach any blame on Gordon for doing whats right for him.
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I am getting very worried for Sunderland.......but i think their main mistake is in attack. They dont have any proven premier league goal scorers.
Gyan and Welbeck is not enough for a team that is as big as Sunderland is.
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Sunderland v Wigan 3.00 KO
haven't a clue what will happen today
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=112031&part=sports
Andre
Problem is just not attack, defence and midfield.
natives are worried aswell and getting more restless by the day.
hope everyone has a nice weekend
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Well thats us about safe, now all we need to do is get rid of Bruce the 23rd May.
Poor game Wigan just collapsed really.
Welbeck had a late fitness test on his hamstring, no real surprise he pulled up and had to be subbed, Malbranque came on and we held onto the ball much better after. But another injury down to Bruce really.
Gyan pulled up with a hamstring aswell, so probably no recognised senior strikers for the rest of the season.
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Sunderland v Fulham KO 3.00 GMT
Possible links
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=113876&part=sports
Meaningless game and no strikers, even the youth that might of played got injured in the youngsters game through the week.
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As expected a truly woeful performance
ditto
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Bolton v Sunderland KO 3.00 Pm GMT
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=115774&part=sports
More players injured, personally think Bruce is over egging the pudding, to show how hard done by he is. Expect another defeat.
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Well last game of the season v West Ham.
Still a load of injuries and can live in hope Bruce will be given the heave ho.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=115802&part=sports
Hope you all had a nice weekend.
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A top 10 finish – I guess all is well that ends well.
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HI lads how are you, been busy so not been on, just got back in to see match.
Well a lot of changes strangely not on the pitch today, don't expect anything.
With Bruce's buys so far a packed midfield and kick it up top and bring a big lad on when game gone.
Hope everybody is OK
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HI lads how are you, been busy so not been on, just got back in to see match.
Well a lot of changes strangely not on the pitch today, don't expect anything.
With Bruce's buys so far a packed midfield and kick it up top and bring a big lad on when game gone.
Hope everybody is OK
Sessegnon has looked bright for Sunderland... but that's about it. Gyan is being asked by Bruce to do too much by himself up top.
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Bakes, he has gone back to where he started last season, packed midfield no support up front, as I suspected he changed it to lumping it with Dong up front.
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Bakes, he has gone back to where he started last season, packed midfield no support up front, as I suspected he changed it to lumping it with Dong up front.
Possible that was only for this game though?
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Bakes, he has gone back to where he started last season, packed midfield no support up front, as I suspected he changed it to lumping it with Dong up front.
Possible that was only for this game though?
Don't think it is for me the squad has been bought with that in mind, at some point (not too far off) we will see a striker playing on the wing same as last season.
The big one today Sunderland v Newcastle at 12.00.
Not a clue what will happen, or the team just have to wait and see what happens over the forthcoming weeks.
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Swansea v Sunderland
Bruce getting a bit arsey, beaten by Newcastle and knocked out of the league cup by Brighton, complaining we are missing chances, but then plays a team for the cup without any strikers, madness.
haven't a clue how its going to go today again, thought it was a poor game last week.
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f$#k sunderland , big up kev
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f$#k sunderland , big up kev
Thanks I think ;D
Chelsea today 3.00 PM kickoff.
Expect to get beat
Gyan is going on loan to Al-Ain why god knows but Bruce keeps falling out with strikers ??? ??? ???
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f$#k sunderland , big up kev
Thanks I think ;D
Chelsea today 3.00 PM kickoff.
Expect to get beat
Gyan is going on loan to Al-Ain why god knows but Bruce keeps falling out with strikers ??? ??? ???
that's why I hate that fat facker...
good luck against Chelsea :beermug:
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f$#k sunderland , big up kev
Thanks I think ;D
Chelsea today 3.00 PM kickoff.
Expect to get beat
Gyan is going on loan to Al-Ain why god knows but Bruce keeps falling out with strikers ??? ??? ???
Wow... are you serious? Let's see if he lasts the season... must have some nice blackmail pics of Quinn.
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Steve Bruce is ah mad man oui..
Yuh go loan out the one good striker yuh had at the club and pin yuh hopes on shitong Bendnter??
If he had some disagreement with Gyan, best he had keep him there on the bench. At least in case Bendtner get injured yuh could have him as a backup to come in and do a job.
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Kev, is Ipswich a mini Sunderland, are the towns close. Is it a very similar environment...just wondering, so many ex Sunderland players in Ipswich line up today.
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Use tuh back Bruce but he seems tuh be very clueless in managing and coaching the side. it seems like he has hit his peek as a manager. The side seems tuh be up and down/inconsistency which I think reflects Bruce's management style. I think he needs tuh take a seat and let a new manage with a fresh outlook tuh work this team over. Is not like they don't open the checkbook for him tuh get players either. I wouldn't mind seeing Chris Hutton get another chance but his affiliation with Newcastle might not fly.
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I wouldn't be surprise if Kiko Macheda ends up at Sunderland on loan if Bruce still has the job in January.
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Use tuh back Bruce but he seems tuh be very clueless in managing and coaching the side. it seems like he has hit his peek as a manager. The side seems tuh be up and down/inconsistency which I think reflects Bruce's management style. I think he needs tuh take a seat and let a new manage with a fresh outlook tuh work this team over. Is not like they don't open the checkbook for him tuh get players either. I wouldn't mind seeing Chris Hutton get another chance but his affiliation with Newcastle might not fly.
Lucky to get away with that scoreline today.
Felt sorry for the young kid Meyler in particular, shouldn't of been put in that position so early in his career against those players with the players around him, I hoped he learned a lot today.
maxg if you look back I called the Bruce appointment uninspired I think he is an average manager tbh, Kenwyne has for the last year just stood and let players jump all over him, I don't understand it myself tbh. I have been critical of Bruce, we are racked with injuries and never stood a chance but he got it wrong again today (not the 1st time) given the players he had available and who the opposition was as soon as I seen the team I could see nothing more than a good old tonking coming. Bruce choose to sell players which I didn't have a problem with tbh, I did however have big concerns about not brining in replacements, but what do I know I am not a qualified coach. Even with teh players back from injury there are only a couple I would keep in the team tbh.
you put it to nicely, Bruce is ah rank shithong, take it from one who didn't even like him as a player, doh he was a better player than a manager, yet those playing days, I was dreaming to get a chance to go against him and prove, and got hurt just before I did...As a manager, ah say ok, new leaf, give a chance, but is when he start bouncing my players is when I really started watching him, and now, I'm certain, is not like it's the 1st time we playing Chelsea, is not like no one else has shown where the defiencies are repeatedly over the last couple weeks, so what he do...somehow, he manage to further weaken those areas...on KJ - since with Keene, KJ is getting the same service, losing the same balls, getting the same shots, and scoring the same goals, others teams recognize and adjusted....and Bruce have the man, still making the same runs, feeding at the same trough, and the predators keep eating him up at the same waterhole, week in, week out...next week, same service, same runs, same defensive strategy,same offensive startegy, wheter is ManU or Bolton, Sunderland playing, no matter who Bruce pick...well it doh have enuff Beach balls on the field to help Sunderland win.....The man is, like quite a few others,using his ManU rep to get management job, posturing right, talking a good game, as many players, fans and both dotish and knowledable ppl do, the difference is the knowledgable learn and adjust to achieve and maintain successes, the dotish(or mad) continue with the same behavior....meanwhile everyone saying nah, it cyah be he, he was a big no nonsense this, and take no prisoners that...it must be them guys who not listening to him....For KJs' sake I wish Quinn trades him, and I hope you as a fan stay with socawarriors.net too...yet the sooner KJ move away from Bruce(observed after that SJ fiasco), the better my nerves....ok ah don rant , sorry...i'm ok now :devil:
Opinion unchanged...maybe next year
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Training session for Chelsea
f$#k sunderland , big up kev
Thanks I think ;D
Chelsea today 3.00 PM kickoff.
Expect to get beat
Gyan is going on loan to Al-Ain why god knows but Bruce keeps falling out with strikers ??? ??? ???
Wow... are you serious? Let's see if he lasts the season... must have some nice blackmail pics of Quinn.
Aye Gone as I said on Kenwyne thread he has been giving him stick / snide remarks last few weeks, with Bentdner coming in maybe didn't see any point hanging around with a manager that doesn't want him. Similar remarks with Kenwyne and Gordon (who is still here only because injured imho)
Kev, is Ipswich a mini Sunderland, are the towns close. Is it a very similar environment...just wondering, so many ex Sunderland players in Ipswich line up today.
No 250-300 miles apart maxg. but Keane took a few players and a couple more went since. Most got Sunderland out of the championship so see it quite often managers trying to replicate it sometimes works sometimes doesn't they tend to forget players age and teams change.
Use tuh back Bruce but he seems tuh be very clueless in managing and coaching the side. it seems like he has hit his peek as a manager. The side seems tuh be up and down/inconsistency which I think reflects Bruce's management style. I think he needs tuh take a seat and let a new manage with a fresh outlook tuh work this team over. Is not like they don't open the checkbook for him tuh get players either. I wouldn't mind seeing Chris Hutton get another chance but his affiliation with Newcastle might not fly.
Still think he is average at best.
I wouldn't be surprise if Kiko Macheda ends up at Sunderland on loan if Bruce still has the job in January.
Hope he hasn't.
have a nice week everyone
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Bruce unhappy with Gyan
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/955350/sunderland-boss-steve-bruce-hits-out-at-asamoah-gyan-over-uae-move?campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=3888
Steve Bruce has hit out at Asamoah Gyan after the Ghana striker left Sunderland to join United Arab Emirates side Al-Ain on loan.
Bruce claimed Gyan had assured him he wanted to stay at Sunderland, and only found out about the loan deal on Saturday morning.
"I had a conversation with Gyan 48 hours ago, with his agent. He shook me by the hand and he said he wanted to stay here, play here because the nonsense had gone on too long," Bruce said after Sunderland's 2-1 defeat to Chelsea.
"I will let everyone else make up their conclusions over why he has left the Premier League to go to the United Arab Emirates. What are you going to the United Arab Emirates for? No disrespect to the country of course.
"Sometimes things disappoint you in football which are quite unbelievable. If we are being brutally honest he has been unhappy and unsettled for weeks and months, but to start with it was Real Madrid and it has ended up with the United Arab Emirates. It is disappointing."
Gyan, who cost the Black Cats £13 million last summer, has three years left on his Sunderland contract and Bruce had said when the deal was announced that he was hopeful the player would be back at the start of next season. However, that now appears extremely unlikely.
"He can come back but I can't see it," Bruce said. "All I will say is that we got the best possible deal for Sunderland Football Club. The one thing I would say is that I have never ever kept a person at a football club who didn't want to be there and that belief will always be there, whether I manage Sunderland or any other club.
"If you don't want to play for the team, the club or the jersey, what is the point? We decided to cut our cloth and get the best deal possible and move on. We will not panic. All we can do is batten down the hatches and get on with it."
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If your own player leaving and you don't know. That says something about you.... ::)
One year you paying 13m and then next year he sweating in the UAE? You could have sold him in the transfer window. Heads should roll.
Say what. You have Bentdner. The greatest striker in the world!
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If your own player leaving and you don't know. That says something about you.... ::)
One year you paying 13m and then next year he sweating in the UAE? You could have sold him in the transfer window. Heads should roll.
Say what. You have Bentdner. The greatest striker in the world!
Can't really disagree, some details have emerged.
The club got £6 Million loan fee for the season.
Gyan is on £200,000 a week
I think I would happily play in the desert for a year in front of 1000 fans or so for that kind of money
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If your own player leaving and you don't know. That says something about you.... ::)
One year you paying 13m and then next year he sweating in the UAE? You could have sold him in the transfer window. Heads should roll.
Say what. You have Bentdner. The greatest striker in the world!
Not a Bruce fan, but I can't fault him on this one... if the man says that 48 hours earlier he spoke to Gyan about it, that means that he did know something was wrong and sought to address it with his player. Bruce said that after Gyan had a good game against England at Wembley last month he was unsettled by people who were more or less scouting him in the stands. Gyan hasn't been the same player for Sunderland since and they tried to sort it out. If Gyan assured him he was staying, then two days later he bolts for more money... hard to pin that one on Bruce.
I still say he deserves blame for the larger state of the club.... the board has spent money, unlike what Pardew has to deal with at Newcastle, and unlike what Moyes has to deal with at Everton.
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Bakes, I agree to a certain extent, but after working with him a year he should have some idea what he is like. He came back unfit, not interested and obvious he wanted away. What was said and how it was handled is anybodies guess, but Bruce was criticising him in the press, probably not the best thing to do when the player is already unhappy.
For me it looks like Bruce's man management leaves a lot to be desired, unless you are one of his favourites (like most managers) too many players have come and gone quickly or never been on the pitch, there seems to be a mismatch between getting them to the club and keeping them happy once at the club, begs the question whats going on. When under pressure he tends to play the blame game and use excuses like squad, injuries, youth and inexperience with little thought for any knock on effects to the players themselves or morale. As you know I am not a big fan of Bruce, it can by argued that he has not spent a lot of money (and is by some) but the reality is he has had the money to spend more than the majority of clubs that we can compete with in the league and not spent it wisely. The team is unbalanced, still no LB lacks pace and guile, he has bought 20 odd players in his 2 years but still can't field a balanced team, its incredulous tbh.
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Can't really disagree, some details have emerged.
The club got £6 Million loan fee for the season.
Gyan is on £200,000 a week
I think I would happily play in the desert for a year in front of 1000 fans or so for that kind of money
Now this puts a serious twist............thats alot of money.........Everyone benefits here!!
Well everyone except Sunderland fans!!
Out - Bent, Gyan, Jones, Welbeck
In - Bentner, Don-Wong-Ji, Wickham (who i read they paid around 18m for)
Where are the goals going to come from? Sunderland in some serious trouble........Bruce too busy trying to audition for the Manutd job that he facking up Sunderland....LOL
ah love it!!
ps: I feel David Moyes will succeed Fergie
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Andre...yuh really spell it out there.
Yuh get rid of 4 top strikers and bring in a shithond and two unknowns :rotfl:
Madness.
Even if yuh side is a bunch of labourers...yuh need a bess goalkeeper and a bess striker.
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Andre...yuh really spell it out there.
Yuh get rid of 4 top strikers and bring in a shithond and two unknowns :rotfl:
Madness.
Even if yuh side is a bunch of labourers...yuh need a bess goalkeeper and a bess striker.
The South Korean guy ( Ji or Wong-Ji) could turn out to be a miracle signing. To me, it seems as though the Koreans play well in the big leagues. I don't understand the crowd reaction after he scored.
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Can't really disagree, some details have emerged.
The club got £6 Million loan fee for the season.
Gyan is on £200,000 a week
I think I would happily play in the desert for a year in front of 1000 fans or so for that kind of money
Now this puts a serious twist............thats alot of money.........Everyone benefits here!!
Well everyone except Sunderland fans!!
Out - Bent, Gyan, Jones, Welbeck
In - Bentner, Don-Wong-Ji, Wickham (who i read they paid around 18m for)
Where are the goals going to come from? Sunderland in some serious trouble........Bruce too busy trying to audition for the Manutd job that he facking up Sunderland....LOL
ah love it!!
ps: I feel David Moyes will succeed Fergie
Andre, not sure on what currency your using but I think its reported as could rise to £8 Million.
But this for me really sums Bruce up, over the past few weeks he has said and changed since.
Sessegnon as a striker (ish)
Gyan
Won and Whickam
Then had a go at Gyan
Forgotten about Sessegnon as a striker because he isn't
said Won and Whickham won't be ready for a year 18 months, great motivational skills
Got Bendtner
Lost Gyan
So as you have rightly pointed out we have gone from various combinations of Kenwyne, Bent, Gyan, Welbeck
To Bendtner & 2 kids.
You add to that a midfield taht lacks any pace or skill (Sessegnon apart) and you don't need a FA Coaching badge to figure out you might be in for a bit of trouble scoring goals.
Madness totalmadness, depends on long his luck holds really.
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Andre...yuh really spell it out there.
Yuh get rid of 4 top strikers and bring in a shithond and two unknowns :rotfl:
Madness.
Even if yuh side is a bunch of labourers...yuh need a bess goalkeeper and a bess striker.
The South Korean guy ( Ji or Wong-Ji) could turn out to be a miracle signing. To me, it seems as though the Koreans play well in the big leagues. I don't understand the crowd reaction after he scored.
Not sure what you mean
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Sunderland v Stoke KO 3.00 PM GMT
I wonder if Kenwyne will play and score today, he should get a decent reception from most of the crowd. Haven't a clue whats going to happen, should really beat them especially since had a long trip a couple of days ago, but who knows what team will turn up. Certainly not me or Bruce, who it seems the pressure is starting to tell a bit.
Hope everyone had a nice weekend.
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A good result, prolonged Bruce for a bit longer (:cursing:), you know what they say if you can't be good be lucky. Kenwyne got a decent reception even though some booed (normal practice) and looked desperate to score, should of really passed near the end but didn't.
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Norwich v Sunderland KO 8.00 PM GMT
Not a clue whats going to happen.
Hope everyone is well
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Norwich v Sunderland KO 8.00 PM GMT
Not a clue whats going to happen.
Hope everyone is well
Norwich is a good club... Paul Campbell has them playing some really good football. The lack options up front and there are still questions at the back, particularly LB, De Laet. But their midfield is solid and I like their keeper, Ruddy. Haven't seen enough of them to know what their bench players are like though, but I'm a big fan of Campbell. Anyone who can secure back to back promotion in successive years is doing one heckuva job. Should be an interesting chess match.
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As expected, norwich buss that ass. ;D
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Norwich v Sunderland KO 8.00 PM GMT
Not a clue whats going to happen.
Hope everyone is well
Norwich is a good club... Paul Campbell has them playing some really good football. The lack options up front and there are still questions at the back, particularly LB, De Laet. But their midfield is solid and I like their keeper, Ruddy. Haven't seen enough of them to know what their bench players are like though, but I'm a big fan of Campbell. Anyone who can secure back to back promotion in successive years is doing one heckuva job. Should be an interesting chess match.
Bakes, not like you but I think you mean Paul Lambert (don't know where you got Campbell from), I agree I think he is a good manager.
Awful game, lambert changed it around a bit, Bruce did the usual and picked his nose and stood and watched. I really hope Bruce's luck runs out soon, its driving me mad here. The natives are getting decidely restless just hope the owner is aswell.
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Bakes, not like you but I think you mean Paul Lambert (don't know where you got Campbell from), I agree I think he is a good manager.
Awful game, lambert changed it around a bit, Bruce did the usual and picked his nose and stood and watched. I really hope Bruce's luck runs out soon, its driving me mad here. The natives are getting decidely restless just hope the owner is aswell.
Brain cramp? :D
Ironically enough, when I made the comment about their lack of options up front I was thinking specifically of Morison and the fact that he is older and lacks pace.... only to see later on that he scored. He also scored their lone item against Chelsea on that brilliant over the head shot, so slow or not, I guess there is something to him.
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Sunderland v West Brom 3.00 PM GMT KO
Sorry but usual not a clue, Bruce far from happy and looks increasingly lost (again), I wish he would get lost.
Bramble won't be playing (well he hasn't this season anyway, although been on the pitch) as he has been suspended. The latest to be caught up (after his brother) in a sex / drugs case. He is under investigation for an alleged sexual assault and posession of a Class A drug. He was out clubbing through the week got in a taxi with a girl to go home, the taxi driver got concerned about what was going on in the back and drove to a police station instead. What can you say.
Sums it up really, Bruce complaining about discipline but we have no discipline on the pitch so its nnot any real surprise we don't off it.
Have a nice weekend
Bakes,
Morrison crash in a good header but was helped by some very poor defending.
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Arsenal v Sunderland 1.30 KO.
Think its lucky Arsenal are in a bit of a mess at the minute, but somehow I don't think it will make a jot of difference to the result.
Club news Quinn stepped down as Chairman and is doing something International Marketing, Short is now Chairman. Which is not so good news for Bruce as Quinny would never sack him, Short will and I hope the sooner the better. Bruce is spouting usual tata and seems a tad under pressure.
Hope everyone had a nice weekend.
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No surprises
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I think Sunderland did well two turning points ..... the header that was saved from Scez point blank from Lee Catermole and also in the 60th minute Wes Brown got a second yellow yes two yellows and he stayed on the pitch the first one he got when he took out RVP from behind and the second when he took out Theo... he's a lucky lad. All things considered I wouldnt say crisis too much quality in the squad for it to go down. In all fairness it took a RVP gem to win it but if I hd to comoare the two I'd probably give sunderlands freekick the award!
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I think Sunderland did well two turning points ..... the header that was saved from Scez point blank from Lee Catermole and also in the 60th minute Wes Brown got a second yellow yes two yellows and he stayed on the pitch the first one he got when he took out RVP from behind and the second when he took out Theo... he's a lucky lad. All things considered I wouldnt say crisis too much quality in the squad for it to go down. In all fairness it took a RVP gem to win it but if I hd to comoare the two I'd probably give sunderlands freekick the award!
He didn't and I think you watched a different match. Although he should of got a yellow early in 1st half when ref played on after clattering somebody, looked like he was going to come back to it but ball stayed in play a long time and he forgot about it. Too many plodders, not enough pace and no forwards and a clueless lump as a manager.
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Why do defenders do that .... just crash into players from behind ... that's not football!!!
I could have sworn Wes got a yellow for the Van P tackle might be wrong I'll research.
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Bolton v Sunderalnd KO 3.00 GMT.
Again not a clue, Bruce been slagging off the supporters this week, so hopefully not long left now.
Have a nice weekend everyone
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Sunderland v Villa 3.00 GMT KO.
Not a clue again, return of Bent who will get a lot of stick but a knocking bet he'll score.
As for Bolton, well they were poor we weren't much better but won.
Have a nice weekend
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Kev,
I don't respond much to your postings but I always check in. Thanks for your untiring contributions. I hope the office works out the administrative side of things at Sunderland. Good luck.
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Kev,
I don't respond much to your postings but I always check in. Thanks for your untiring contributions. I hope the office works out the administrative side of things at Sunderland. Good luck.
Agreed... Sunderland just aren't that interesting to me which is why I hardly ever weigh in. I don't even know who's left on the squad to be honest, besides Seb Larsson. But Kev does a nice job of repping his club with the updates... the fans deserve better than the clueless Bruce.
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Kev,
I don't respond much to your postings but I always check in. Thanks for your untiring contributions. I hope the office works out the administrative side of things at Sunderland. Good luck.
Agreed... Sunderland just aren't that interesting to me which is why I hardly ever weigh in. I don't even know who's left on the squad to be honest, besides Seb Larsson. But Kev does a nice job of repping his club with the updates... the fans deserve better than the clueless Bruce.
Even I'm struggling at the minute to be honest and it will remain that way as long as Bruce stays, its like watching grass grow in the dark. Larsson strange its a bit like American Football and special team duties. Both teams seemed to settle for a draw yesterday and ended up scoring another one each.
Live in hope I suppose, Manu next week.
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Kev,
I don't respond much to your postings but I always check in. Thanks for your untiring contributions. I hope the office works out the administrative side of things at Sunderland. Good luck.
Agreed... Sunderland just aren't that interesting to me which is why I hardly ever weigh in. I don't even know who's left on the squad to be honest, besides Seb Larsson. But Kev does a nice job of repping his club with the updates... the fans deserve better than the clueless Bruce.
Even I'm struggling at the minute to be honest and it will remain that way as long as Bruce stays, its like watching grass grow in the dark. Larsson strange its a bit like American Football and special team duties. Both teams seemed to settle for a draw yesterday and ended up scoring another one each.
Live in hope I suppose, Manu next week.
Haha@ the 'special teams' reference. A lot of blame resides with the board as well, at this point it is plain negligent to still keep Bruce at the helm since it's clearly to the detriment of the team. In a morbid sense it's almost as bad as it has been being a fan of the Socawarriors.... what, with the chronic mismanagement and corruption under Jack Warner et al.
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Bakes,
Quinny is genuinely one of lifes nice guys and I think he he believes Bruce would be a success with enough time and money and wants him to succeed. That in conjunction with an American Owner who knew little about football or what he was watching meant he bowed to Quinny's experience, as I am sure he can't be happy watching other teams with a fraction of the investment out performing his team on a regular basis. I think now he has taken the Chairmans role and Quinny has been moved sideways opens the door for Bruce to go, probably needs just a couple of bad results (but Bruce is a lucky manager), I came to realise a while ago Bruce wasn't going to ever be sacked by Quinny.
As for the Socawarriors, well its looks like T N T don't have anybody to run them at the minute as getting out while the going is good, I would love to say I'm surprised there hasn't been more made of it or action taken, but having been on here a few years now, I'm not. At least it gives you a chance but someone else may just look at it as a cash cow instead. Hope for football sake in T N T it doesn't pan out that way.
I've been busy the last few months which is part of the reason I haven't been here much or contributed much in other threads, be that way for a while to come yet, but will try to keep upto date as it just annoys a few. ;)
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Missed putting the manu game on which was absolute rubbish.
Tomorrow is Sunderland v Fulham 3.00 KO.
Not a clue whats going to happen and tbh don't really care at the minute.
Have a nice weekend
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Missed putting the manu game on which was absolute rubbish.
Tomorrow is Sunderland v Fulham 3.00 KO.
Not a clue whats going to happen and tbh don't really care at the minute.
Have a nice weekend
Now now Kev. . .don't let T&T vibes rub off on you. . .Fulham is no real threat ;)
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Missed putting the manu game on which was absolute rubbish.
Tomorrow is Sunderland v Fulham 3.00 KO.
Not a clue whats going to happen and tbh don't really care at the minute.
Have a nice weekend
Now now Kev. . .don't let T&T vibes rub off on you. . .Fulham is no real threat ;)
Its not TnT its the fat Fecker Bruce thats got to me, I have a 3month old puppy that has more idea than him.
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Sunderland v Wigan 3.00 GMT
Usual not a clue, but 1st real audible shouts of Bruce Out I think if get beat today there will be a few more shouting it.
Have a nice weekend.
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Bruce Out!
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Bruce Out!
Their message board in a meltdown.
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I couldn't go or see it on Saturday so wasn't suprised to see the result late on Saturday tbh.
But once a lot of the crowd start there's no way back. Interesting article from the Guardian, the woman has a good connection with the club and has always written positive articles so looks like a change of direction, I hope so the sooner the better for me.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/27/sunderland-wigan-steve-bruce
Steve Bruce on brink as Sunderland fans' vitriol reaches fever pitch
• Manager receives abuse after defeat to Wigan
• I cannot help where I was born, says Sunderland manager
By early Saturday evening some Sunderland fans were running sweepstakes, with wagers placed on the day and hour of Steve Bruce's predicted sacking. Others preferred to debate the succession and ponder the respective merits of, among others, Mark Hughes, Martin O'Neill, David Moyes and Steve McClaren. By 5.30pm Sunday bookmakers had suspended betting on Bruce's dismissal.
For the moment, at least, he remains in charge at the Stadium of Light, but although he maintains resignation is not an option – and having signed a lucrative new long‑term contract in February there has never been much likelihood of Sunderland's manager waving a white flag – even he concedes that his relationship with the Wearside public has possibly fractured beyond repair.
After witnessing two home wins since New Year's Day, this defeat to a Wigan Athletic team who had begun the day seemingly glued to the bottom of the table proved a watershed. With chants of "Bruce Out" and "You fat Geordie bastard, get out of our club" echoing in the late afternoon gloom, the atmosphere was so vitriolic it felt suspiciously close to mutiny.
Bruce was asked if things had reached the point of no return. "Can I turn the relationship around?" he mused. "I don't know. It's going to be very, very difficult. I would never walk away, never. But If I thought that by going it would help everybody then I would consider it, I'd certainly have a think about it. I don't think that at the minute, though.
"I just want to try to get it right. Hopefully the criticism has bottomed out today; I don't think it's ever been as bad as that. It borders on abuse. That's just the way it is, though, and I have to accept it. I cannot help where I was born."
That last somewhat disingenuous comment will not play well with the majority of Sunderland fans, who simply do not care about Bruce's roots or his boyhood adoration of Newcastle United.
Instead, most Stadium of Light season-ticket holders are far more concerned about the reasons why he has signed 30 players – several of whom have since moved on – since the summer of 2009, the apparent lack of an overall playing philosophy or tactical strategy, and Bruce's persistent failure to tweak his teams and formations incisively during games.
Why, they wonder, has he rushed key players back following serious injuries only to see them relapse, why was Anton Ferdinand allowed to join Queens Park Rangers when he was in the best defensive form of his career, and why were three former key strikers, Darren Bent, Kenwyne Jones and Asamoah Gyan, so desperate to depart?
If attacking options are limited, a lack of control and creativity in central midfield leaves Sunderland unable to dictate play and set the tempo. It explains why, after taking an early lead through Sebastian Larsson and missing several subsequent chances, they permitted Wigan back into a contest altered irrevocably by Jordi Gomez's conversion of a controversial 44th‑minute penalty.
Aware sporadic bouts of pleasing passing were being betrayed by alarming defending, Roberto Martínez tightened his team's positional discipline at half‑time. "Defensively we were giving too much space to Kieran Richardson and Nicklas Bendtner and they were getting in little holes to really hurt us," Wigan's manager said. "We tried to get a little bit tighter and that helped neutralise the threat. Small details won us the match. I wouldn't say we had too much flair and, to be honest, I thought it was one of our worst performances of the last three weeks, but we were really professional."
Martínez also made an inspired 84th‑minute substitution. Franco Di Santo was clutching a corner flag while performing an elaborate stretching routine when the command to get stripped for action finally came and, judging by the way he ambled down the touchline and then spent an inordinate amount of time adjusting his shorts, the Argentinian striker looked an almost reluctant participant.
If Di Santo's demeanour lulled Bruce into a vague sense of security it was short-lived as within minutes Wes Brown had been caught, horribly, in possession and, with Keiren Westwood lured off his line, James McArthur rolled the ball for the former Chelsea forward to sidefoot into an empty net.
In the match programme Ellis Short, Sunderland's reclusive chairman, had made a rare public pronouncement, claiming that while he was unhappy with the team's league position and sought an improvement in results and performances, he saw no reason to panic.
Short, who did not speak to Bruce before leaving the stadium, has a big decision to make. Does he offer the manager a chance to spark an improvement at Wolves on Sunday and at home to Blackburn Rovers the following weekend, or should he implement an immediate change?
On the slide
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Home league matches Sunderland have won from 15 played since January. Nine have been lost
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Players signed by Steve Bruce over the summer for a total of £23.35m, offset by money from sales
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Points Sunderland have taken from their past 27 league games. This time last season they were seventh
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Increase in the gate for Saturday's match from the last home game of November last season – despite the struggles the fans are still loyal
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Link: http://www.safc.com/news/20111130/sunderland-part-company-with-manager_2256213_2533347
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Link: http://www.safc.com/news/20111130/sunderland-part-company-with-manager_2256213_2533347
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about time...hope things improve for you kev
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about time...hope things improve for you kev
Things just have, massively thank you
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What's next for Sunderland now??
I am thinking that someone in the mold of Martin O'Neil would be a favorite here!
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Who's available?
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Who's available?
A few decent ones, it depends on Short really and if they want to come.
Martin O'Neil - favourite with the bookies and fans great record and was a Sunderland fan as a kid. However Short and Learner at Villa are friends so may put the jinx on that.
Hughes - good manager wouldn't mind
Rafa - pass
After that the usual merrygoround suspects, just have to wait and see.
I don't think the owner will hang around though so not expecting having to wait that long to find out.
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Who's available?
A few decent ones, it depends on Short really and if they want to come.
Martin O'Neil - favourite with the bookies and fans great record and was a Sunderland fan as a kid. However Short and Learner at Villa are friends so may put the jinx on that.
Hughes - good manager wouldn't mind
Rafa - pass
After that the usual merrygoround suspects, just have to wait and see.
I don't think the owner will hang around though so not expecting having to wait that long to find out.
Sunderland should be so lucky... "pass" my ass.
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Who's available?
A few decent ones, it depends on Short really and if they want to come.
Martin O'Neil - favourite with the bookies and fans great record and was a Sunderland fan as a kid. However Short and Learner at Villa are friends so may put the jinx on that.
Hughes - good manager wouldn't mind
Rafa - pass
After that the usual merrygoround suspects, just have to wait and see.
I don't think the owner will hang around though so not expecting having to wait that long to find out.
Sunderland should be so lucky... "pass" my ass.
Bakes have no problem with his record, but thats as far as it goes.
The guy is poison look at teh way he went on at Liverpool. Wasn't it Milan he went after that? How would he cope at somewhere like Sunderland, basically has come out and said he only real interest is the Liverpool job but will take another while he waits, reading between the lines. Would you really want someone like that, having said that at your club if it wasn't Liverpool. I don't think so. But thats my personal opinion and tahts the beauty of the game everybody sees things differently. Toys and Pram dfefinately spring to mind. Not many Chairman will take the risk with him aswell given how he conducted himself, if I had a 3 yo bairn I would smack its arse for going on like he did.
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Bakes have no problem with his record, but thats as far as it goes.
The guy is poison look at teh way he went on at Liverpool. Wasn't it Milan he went after that? How would he cope at somewhere like Sunderland, basically has come out and said he only real interest is the Liverpool job but will take another while he waits, reading between the lines. Would you really want someone like that, having said that at your club if it wasn't Liverpool. I don't think so. But thats my personal opinion and tahts the beauty of the game everybody sees things differently. Toys and Pram dfefinately spring to mind. Not many Chairman will take the risk with him aswell given how he conducted himself, if I had a 3 yo bairn I would smack its arse for going on like he did.
Kev... no offense but you are woefully misinformed on this issue. Talk to any knowledgeable Liverpool fan, Rafa is still beloved at Anfield. In fact he and his wife still live in Liverpool and do a lot of philanthropy in the city. Rafa was forced out of Liverpool by the then owners, Hicks and Gillette. He made some unsuccessful buys, without a doubt (Babel, N'gog, Aquilani, Dossena etc.), but he also was promised money to improve the club only to have the owners renege on that promise. Hicks and Gillette weren't interested in what was best for Liverpool, for them it was a financial investment and they sought to leverage as much profit from the club as possible, while running it into the ground. They sought to handcuff Benitez at every turn, then criticized him for not winning. Had he won the title in 2009 with the resources he was given there'd be statues erected in his honor all over Merseyside... that's how difficult they made his job.
To suggest that Benitez left Liverpool in the lurch so that he could run off to Inter is just plain inaccurate.
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Bakes,
I understand perfectly well what went on and know what pool fans think of him, so read my post again with your eyes not heart and see what I am saying and why. He isn't that well thought of by many "neutrel" fans tbh and not beacuse of his record.
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Bakes,
I understand perfectly well what went on and know what pool fans think of him, so read my post again with your eyes not heart and see what I am saying and why. He isn't that well thought of by many "neutrel" fans tbh and not beacuse of his record.
Kev, I read very well what you wrote... to wit, "The guy is poison look at teh way he went on at Liverpool." You also made mention of "how he conducted himself", quite frankly I haven't the faintest clue as to what's wrong with how he "conducted himself"... before, during and after Liverpool. Maybe you can elaborate on what aspect of his conduct you find so objectionable.
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Sorry bakes your right its not clear what I was going on about.
I was going on about the way he conducted himself at News Conferences, the bit with the refs reading from lists, slacking off everybody, polar vision he got away with murder only beacuse of the club he was with, wouldn't happen at a lesser club. Dragging dirty washing out in public and not many chairman will take the risk of him throwing his bricks out of the pram again.
Again Paraphrasing what he said a while ago is that he really just wants the Liverpool job again but will take one (providing its the right one) until he gets his chance again at Liverpool. Not exactly committing himself to whatever cause he ends up with.
Thats why I said I have no truck with his record, just him and the way he will go on when its not going his way.
I don't think it has helped by differences in what I wrote intention wise and how you have easily interpreted into what you have thought I meant by it. I do sometimes forget I am on a different countries board and post as I do in England.
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Well you have a right to your opinion of him... but Ferguson, Mourinho and any number of managers currently in the EPL and other European leagues are guilty of the same conduct you decry. Roy Keane ring a bell? Yet fans tired of Keane only because he wasn't winning, not because he was a colossal jackass, which only seemed to come clearer into focus at the end.
As for him pining after the Liverpool job, that's news to me... but admittedly I haven't seen every single one of his press conferences. I can see nothing from his time at Inter that suggests that he was not committed to the job.
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Bakes the managers you mention are all guilty of the same things, notice their clubs, none have really done the dirty washing in public as badly as him and none to be honest looked so childish / spolit brattish.
The interview was probably 6 /9 months ago ish and thats how I interpreted it and a few other people, obviously it you haven't read it then you can't comment on it.
Your well aware I didn't really want Bruce for different reason more record, I don't particularly want rafa for the reasons stated but for 1 that has my opinion of him there will be someone else who has your opinion of him, its no big deal as I said in my original post its just my personal opinion.
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Bakes the managers you mention are all guilty of the same things, notice their clubs, none have really done the dirty washing in public as badly as him and none to be honest looked so childish / spolit brattish.
The interview was probably 6 /9 months ago ish and thats how I interpreted it and a few other people, obviously it you haven't read it then you can't comment on it.
Your well aware I didn't really want Bruce for different reason more record, I don't particularly want rafa for the reasons stated but for 1 that has my opinion of him there will be someone else who has your opinion of him, its no big deal as I said in my original post its just my personal opinion.
Yes Kev, it's indeed your opinion (I think I actually said so myself) and as you said others may agree or disagree. You're also correct, I didn't see/read the interview... however, given that he lives in Liverpool and interacts most often with the Mersey media, I wouldn't be surprised if the comment was made to local press. A bit of speculation on my part, but if that was the context in which the comment was made then it's hard to really look at that objectively and take offense to it. But that's just my take.
As for other managers not airing dirty laundry in public, or come off as bratty... matter of opinion. Arsene Whinger didn't get the name by accident, Kean was never shy about savaging his players publicly, McLeish did the same at Rangers, Ferguson did... and does it at ManU, just ask Yorke and Cole, for starters. Not airing dirty laundry you say? I guess it all depends on what you consider dirty laundry then. I'm a lifelong fan of Liverpool and honestly this is the first time I've ever heard the charge leveled at Benitez... stunned to hear it, honestly. Again, all depends on what you consider dirty laundry.
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Bakes I think this is the inteview referred to here that I seen about his "Dream job" http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/03/24/rafael-benitez-wants-dream-return-to-liverpool/
Liverpool were absolute top dogs and respected when I was younger and always dignified for me Rafa turned that on its head. Towards the end it was more about points scoring and getting his opinion across, how hard done by he was by the club than the club itself. Whinger was/ is disliked for similar reasons by the neutrels but you have never seen any on them have a dig at their clubs in such a manner or over a long period. Thats what I meant by Chairman being very wary of him.
I didn't want Keane as manager because I thought he would lose it very quickly, he did at the end but given the basket case of a club he took over and where it was to when he left his demons finally getting the better of him, he did a very good job in bringing back pride and belief in the club.
With Rafa I get the impression its all about Rafa. I do think he genuinely cares about Liverpool, I don't think that will be the case with another club however.
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Liverpool were absolute top dogs and respected when I was younger and always dignified for me Rafa turned that on its head. Towards the end it was more about points scoring and getting his opinion across, how hard done by he was by the club than the club itself. Whinger was/ is disliked for similar reasons by the neutrels but you have never seen any on them have a dig at their clubs in such a manner or over a long period. Thats what I meant by Chairman being very wary of him.
Have a dig at the club?? His dispute was with Gillette and Hicks (and their cronies) and everybody in Europe knew they were shit. What dig at the club are you referencing? The same club that he considers his dream job? Again, granted I'm not there on the ground in England to get every bit of news, but in addition to being a lifelong fan I cover the club for a an online media outlet... I have never seen anything suggesting Rafa having a "dig at the club." If any owner/chairman is wary of hiring Rafa over his beef with the previous owners then that owner/chairman is an idiot, plain and simple. Rafa's only concerns have always been what's in the best interest of the club. The fact that he has remained close to players and staff... and the people of Liverpool underscores that point. Any owner should hope to have an employee that loyal to the club.
As for the article... people can find "offense" wherever they want I suppose. If him saying that he "wouldn't mind going back to Liverpool in the future" is cause enough for concern to you... then what can I tell you? Your club's loss is another's gain.
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Bakes we are just going round and round in circles pal, we have totally different opinions of him for our own reasons, lets both just quit while we are behind eh ;)
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O'Neill "says yes to Sunderland"
Martin O'Neill has agreed to succeed Steve Bruce as Sunderland manager, BBC Sport understands.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/15997197.stm
Good coach... always liked him, ever since his Celtic days about 10 yrs ago.
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Bakes,
He's a great coach, but its dragging on hope it hasn't hit a snag. Doesn't play the prettiest football but knows what he is doing.
If he does come its a shame Kenwyne's still not here because he would of made or broke him. If you remember when all the stuff was going on I suggested Villa would be the best place for him because of MON. He likes a target man aswell.
Can't expect miracles straight away but should be able to steady the ship until he gets a chance to change it around a bit in the summer. Think a few of the players are in for a shock.
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Well its Wolves v Sunderland on Sunday 4.00 PM KO.
Santa came early this year.
http://www.safc.com/news/20111203/sunderland-appoint-martin-oneill_2256213_2536081
Sunderland appoint Martin O'Neill
Martin O'Neill has officially become Sunderland's new manager, signing a three-year contract.
Sunderland AFC can confirm that Martin O'Neill has been appointed as the club's new manager.
The 59-year-old has agreed a three-year deal on Wearside and will take charge of the Black Cats from Monday.
Vastly experienced, O'Neill has built a reputation as one of British football's most admired managers, steering Aston Villa to three successive sixth-place finishes in the Barclays Premier League between 2008 and 2010 after successful spells at the helm of Leicester City and Celtic - winning domestic honours and securing European qualification with both.
Speaking after officially joining the club, O'Neill said: "It's a very nice feeling to be back in football and to be the manager of Sunderland. It's a big moment for me.
"I'd heard about what a good club it was but coming here, seeing the stadium and training ground, I've been bowled over. It's absolutely fantastic.
"I hope I can help Sunderland to very successful period. That's what I've come for and that's my driving ambition."
After cutting his managerial teeth with Grantham Town and Shepshed Charterhouse, O'Neill rose to prominence in charge of Wycombe Wanderers between 1990 and 1995, taking the Chairboys from the Football Conference to the third tier of English football in successive seasons before a brief spell with Norwich City.
He swapped Carrow Road for Filbert Street in December 1995, steering Leicester City to promotion to the Premier League via the play-offs in his first season.
Winning two League Cups (1997 and 2000) and finishing runners-up in a third League Cup Final (1999) during his tenure in the East Midlands, he also guided the Foxes to four consecutive top ten finishes between 1997 and 2000.
O'Neill's success with Leicester attracted the advances of Scottish Premier League side Celtic and, in summer 2000, he moved north to Glasgow to guide a side which had finished 20 points behind champions Rangers in the preceding campaign to the domestic treble in his first season.
The Northern Irishman won three SPL titles, three Scottish Cups and a League Cup in his five years at Celtic Park, guiding the Bhoys to UEFA Champions League qualification on three occasions and the 2003 UEFA Cup Final. He also set a British record of 25 consecutive victories.
He left Parkhead in May 2005, returning to football - and the Barclays Premier League - a year later where he revitalised Aston Villa's fortunes to guide the club to 11th in his first campaign and sixth-place in the next three consecutive seasons. O'Neill led Villa to the League Cup Final in 2010, finishing as runners-up.
O'Neill is expected to be in the stands at Molineux for Sunday's clash with Wolves, however Eric Black takes charge of the team for the game.
He will be enough to steady the ship for this season and start the building in the summer, good coach.
I am a very happy bunny.
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The broadcast showed a glimpse of O'Neill in the stands at Molineux... living and dying with every half chance. That was really great to see... only in charge a couple hours and already emotionally invested in the club. I would be surprised if he couldn't turn the club around. There are decent players in the squad... Larsson, Bendtner, O'Shea, Brown... and perhaps my favorite on the team, Sessegnon.. what a terrific player. In watching them against Wolves though, they lack a clear identity.
I'm still trying to figure out what Lee Catermole's role on the pitch is... the guy's a foul magnet pub league player yet he's Sunderland's captain. Meanwhile Craig Gordon... geez, I think it's time for Sunderland to just cut that kid loose. There's adequate cover in Mignolet and now Millwood, and I simply don't think he was ever worth the 12 million quid they paid for him, especially since he's always injured.
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Lack any real pace, guile or organisation tbh. As I said above a few players are in for a big shock this week. Got a hard set of games coming after Blackburn, we lack balance so MON will have to find a work around until January.
He doesn't suffer fools so its going to be an interesting month or so.
As for Gordon he is still injured, but in the last year of his contract. There was something between him and Bruce similar to what went on with Kenwyne imho. We paid £9 for him, but that was to make a statement and had to overpay for everyone.
I think you mean Westwood who looks a decent keeper, but would like to see Gordon back tbh.
MON starts tomorrow, John Robertson isn't coming with him so he will have to find a new sidekick. Bruce left a few good players, but no balance and big gaps. Place will be buzzing next week whatever teh result.
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This team needs a huge injection of confidence that a new manager should bring. I watched them self destruct yesterday without being pressured by Wolves.
I have always liked ONeil as a manager. His work at Aston Villa was phenomenal and i hope he takes Sunderland to the next level that they crave.
I am curious to see how he cleans house.........
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Sunderland v Blackburn KO 1.30 PM GMT
Well start of a new era, don't expect any massive changes apart from attitude as he can only work with what he has, but would expect an improvement. I do believe we were in severe danger of relegation under Bruce, with MON we have a much better chance.
Andre,
MON is a cautious manager and changes will be gradual, I would expect to see a couple in January (possibly even just short term quick fixes) and the real work to start in the summer, but it won't happen in 1 or 2 transfer windows. You look at his record anywhere and it is good, sometimes it just doesn't work for a manager or a player at a particular club, I hope thats not the case this time. There will be a big crowd today which isn't bad considering the state of the economy, time of year, live on Sky and we have won 2/3 games all year at home.
I don't think its going to be pretty he has already mentioned getting set piece defending right, no pace, confidence and working with what he has. But its a long time since I have looked forward to a match and many others feel the same way.
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Got the result, but got away with a couple of things. Few hard matches coming up so needed the points. Showed up perfectly what we are missing just hope he gets some money in January to sort it out.
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Spurs v Sunderland.
half way through 1st half, anything from here is a bonus.
Funny fact after a couple of players being investigated, we have more players on bail at teh minute than wins. Sums up Bruce's time and attitude I think.
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QPR v Sunderland KO 8.00 GMT
Don't know what will happen in this game QPR blow a bit hot and cold and MON hasn't had that much time yet.
The Spurs game was surprisingly even, helped that Bale was injured and Lenon went off, but we were more organised and up for it, but sadly still lacking because of the available players, need a couple in january. Given Bruce signed 30 or so players in 2 years I think it speaks volumes we are still so short on quality.
Transfer rumour time and there is a story doing the rounds about Kenwyne either moving to QPR, Wolves US or Villa (Bent maybe leaving, stress rumour only). I suspect there maybe some mileage in this as these stories with players not playing / getting pitch times are either started by the agent so the player can play or the club wanting him moved on or off the wage bill. Just have to wait and see.
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The QPR game was a bit scrappy, went 2-0 up, then 2-2 and won it at the death, MON does them a bit better but it still showed where we are short. can't argue that much as Santa already was very kind to me and came early this year with MON becoming our manager, but a couple of decent players wouldn't come a miss in January.
Sunderland v Everton KO 3.00 GMT.
Everton always seem to win and Cahill always scores, even though he hasn't scored in ages we must be one of his favourite teams to play against. Everton are having a bit of a hard time scoring. A win would be nice.
I hope everyone had a great and safe Christmas and the fat bar steward in the red coat was kind to you. I will take this opportunity to wish you all a wonderful, New Year and may 2012 bring you everything you wish for. Please remember, be good, if you can't be good be careful and if you can do neither, don't get caught. Take care.
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I had a chance to see the game (Sunderland vs Everton) today. The goal by Sunderland was in some ways deserved, although there was a little bit of luck. The penalty was unfortunate. Everton was surprisingly poor.
Kev, thanks very much for the updates. Wishing Sunderland the best of luck for the remainder of the season!
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The game showed where both teams are short, up front, thought the result was about right. The penalty, well there is not a lot you can say, sometimes there is a tangle of legs and the ref gives it or not and can go for and against you in the season. This one I don't know what he thinks he sees because nobody attempted a tackle Osman kicked the ground and went over (not a dive imho). The only thing I can think is that he tought a leg had caught a sunderland player, but as nobody tried to tackle it has to be intentional, so how he came to teh decision is baffling tbh.
Man City New Years Day should be interesting the way Brown and O'Shea have been defending.
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Sunderland v Man City KO 3.00 PM GMT.
Few injuries not expecting antging, should be "interesting" given our lack of pace especially in defence.
Everyone have a good safe night and say hello to the hang over for me.
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KEV!!!
Play yuhself. :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
Unbelievable!
Ji was offside though. But we go take it.
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Well played Sunderland! :beermug: The difference in the side with O'neil vs Bruce night and day. Side better organized, disciplined and appears to have a plan to follow on the field. Bendtner is the worse!
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Two Man City players cost more than the entire Sunderland squad and yet!!! Offside? Yes! But calls like that usually even out by the end of the season.
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Two Man City players cost more than the entire Sunderland squad and yet!!! Offside? Yes! But calls like that usually even out by the end of the season.
Seems like City needs a second wind and a plan B.
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Two Man City players cost more than the entire Sunderland squad and yet!!! Offside? Yes! But calls like that usually even out by the end of the season.
Seems like City needs a second wind and a plan B.
;D always happens when yuh spoilt for choice, hard to make up yuh mind
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Two Man City players cost more than the entire Sunderland squad and yet!!! Offside? Yes! But calls like that usually even out by the end of the season.
Seems like City needs a second wind and a plan B.
;D always happens when yuh spoilt for choice, hard to make up yuh mind
The interesting thing with City is they only have one midfield creator (Silva), and very inconsistent wideplayers. Teams I think figuring out how to defend against their skilled players in and around the box. Nasir might as well still be at Arsenal for all his contributing to the side.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Well what can you say, the club kept the illness very quiet so I was fearing the worst when I seen the teamsheet with no proper fullbacks etc.
Strange game really, City had the vast majority to only really created 1 or 2 really good chances we also had 2 very good chances that should of done better with.
I got the impression that City players just thought they had to turn up to win tbh, I was surprised as I have been very impressed by them this season. But would of been happy with a small defeat or draw before the game and during tbh.
As for the offside, well its one of those sometimes its given sometimes not the linesman is just behind so probably doesn't see Ji through the Man City player so can't give offside. But as I have said before about this very tight decisions it happens and is understandable whatever way it goes. Having said that it makes up for the 2 points the non penalty cost us last week, that wasn't even debatable tbh.
The difference under MON is there for all to see, from an unorganised, ill discipled rabble with no Plan A let alone Plan B to a team that actually has some idea of what to do. It is also nice to see him constantly telling them what to do, encouraging them and even today was pushing them forward at the end.
Well played Sunderland! :beermug: The difference in the side with O'neil vs Bruce night and day. Side better organized, disciplined and appears to have a plan to follow on the field. Bendtner is the worse!
Bendtner is truely awful, won't compete, can't hold it up and has the heart of a mouse, desperately need some pace and someone that can hold up the ball, compete with CH's.
Hope everyone has a good rest of the holidays I know I will.
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Never cease to amaze me what a difference a good coach could make in a team.
From day one since O'neill took control of this team, they have been a whole lot more solid and structured and play with a great deal more confidence. All the players starting on a clean slate pushing to impress the manager and earn a spot in the squad.
What even more amazing is the players he doing it with. Mclean? Kilgallon? Colback? Ji? Vaughan? I mean really??
Average players at best punching well above their weight.
With some good purchases in the January window, Sunderland could have a strong 2nd half of the season.
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Pure offside goal......no two ways about it.
Did you all see the man turn Ji head and drag he tongue, while they celebrating?
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Wigan v Sunderland 7.45 KO.
I really haven't got a lot of expectation tonight, given the illness and injury situation most of the team will consist of those on Sunday, that much running off the ball and another very heavy pitch, can't expect a great deal. Would of been happily taken 3 points from these 2 games ( 1 tbh) so anything really would be a bonus.
elan, I know the goal was offside, but understandable the linesman didn't give it from his position. Its OK having all these replays. lines on pitch and deciding the player is offside by an inch or so, but its not that easy live when not in position and linesman simply aren't going to get them right all the time, some will go for you some will go against. A lot more difficult to understand the blatant ones when the linemans in line and the player is a yard onside though.
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Wigan v Sunderland 7.45 KO.
I really haven't got a lot of expectation tonight, given the illness and injury situation most of the team will consist of those on Sunday, that much running off the ball and another very heavy pitch, can't expect a great deal. Would of been happily taken 3 points from these 2 games ( 1 tbh) so anything really would be a bonus.
elan, I know the goal was offside, but understandable the linesman didn't give it from his position. Its OK having all these replays. lines on pitch and deciding the player is offside by an inch or so, but its not that easy live when not in position and linesman simply aren't going to get them right all the time, some will go for you some will go against. A lot more difficult to understand the blatant ones when the linemans in line and the player is a yard onside though.
Sorry, but did not need a replay to see that one. In the build up and the movement you could have seen that easily. The lines man has the best position to see the offside ??? His entire body was beyond the defender. Maybe the linesman can argue that a defender pass the ball towards the attacking player?
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Elan,
I think its one of those understandable ones, he's a couple of yards behind JI and watching when the ball is played and when it is JI runs across the pitch rather than through towards goal and the City guy comes back a bit, so by the time he eyes have shifted he can't really see JI through the city player (as he is not in line) and he has to be certain, now if he had been that 2 yards further down when he looked up he would of seen JI in front and would of give it. Its all about opinions but for me that mistake is understandable given teh circumstances, now the penalty last week, totally different.
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Well won 4-1 score flattered us a bit but happily take it.
Couple of cracking goals although don't think it was a free kick for the 1st and carried a little bit of luck, as said score was hard on Wigan.
Bendtner proved yet again he's useless.
What can you say about MON, 6 games 13 points
Posh away next in the cup on Sunday.
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Posh v Sunderland KO 3.30 PM.
Live on terestial TV in UK after City v Untied match.
Don't know what teh team is going to be, MON might give another couple of youngsters a go. Colback is injured, picked up an injury during the warm up at Wigan and played through. Would like to go through so just have to wait and see, as many will know you just couldn't guess whether the team would ever turn up under Bruce it was always 50 / 50. Whatever team it is today will turn up under MON.
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Boring game, MON just had them sat back and picked them off, very organised - professional. Nice draw for next round Boro at home.
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Chelsea v Sunderland 3.00 GMT KO
See if our luck holds, Chelsea not in best of form and not firing on all cylinders, so 7-0 to Chelsea then ;D
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Bendtner killin Sunderland's and the EPL's brand by attempting tuh pass himself off as a footballer! Jah he needs tuh be shot with shite!
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No argument from me.
Could possibly should of got something out of the game, ah well onwards and upwards.
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Somebody needs tuh start a Nicholas Bendtner does not belong in the EPL thread! At least Ade scores and top sides still want him, Bendtner headed straight tuh League 1 or out of England.
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Bendtner does remind me of that one fellah in the small goal sweat who does dress like ah pro, warm up like a pro, make sign of the cross and run on the field like a pro, then proceed to be the shittiest ting in a pair of tugs..
And no amount of cuss and steups from his teammates week after week could ever bring him around to the reality that he is a shithound, because in his mind he is a pro.
A real waste of break.
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Sunderland v Swansea KO 3.00 GMT.
Expect it to be a decent game today, I think could go either way. I like Rodgers think he is going to be a good manager.
Still a few players missing and no real rumours with regards transfers, if we do get anybody it will only be tweaking until the summer. MON has enough about him to cope with it, although I won't be that pleased.
I see Bendtner is as popular as a turd in a swimming pool on here. For me he is what I call a 10 minute player, only shows 5 minutes each half usually towards teh end so everyone thinks he has had a good game. Lacks composure and backbone.
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3 points 2 great goals thats about it.
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FA Cup Sunderland v Boro KO 1.30 pm GMT
Two local teams not a lot of love lost between the supporters so it will be interesting. Boro like to play football, so expect us to let them get on with it and try to pick them off.
No Bendtner as he has a broken nose and eye injury looks like he will be missing for a month at least, which means no real striker just Sessegnon and 2 kids Wickham and Ji.
Don't think we are going to do anything in this window although the club seem to be trying to find a Stop Gap striker / hold up player until the summer, this may end up someone like Davis from Bolton or a loan, don't know.
Have a nice weekend
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No Bendtner as he has a broken nose and eye injury looks like he will be missing for a month at least, which means no real striker just Sessegnon and 2 kids Wickham and Ji.
Some would say you didn't have a real striker before the injury... ::)
Boro leading 1-0
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No Bendtner as he has a broken nose and eye injury looks like he will be missing for a month at least, which means no real striker just Sessegnon and 2 kids Wickham and Ji.
Some would say you didn't have a real striker before the injury... ::)
Boro leading 1-0
Me included ;D
Poor game today, never got started.
Nice to see Campbell back after 18 months out with his knee.
Strange the "goal" was disallowed for offside but it wasn't, it was a handball so all's well that ends well.
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Sunderland v Norwich KO 20.00 GMT
Got a fair few injuries so not sure what team will play or how they will play, no new striker. Signed Bridge on loan and a greek guy, Bridge is available for tonight, but not a player I rate personally.
Think it will be very cagey, just another 4 wins in the league and season is done for me and start again in summer transfer window.
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Wayne Bridge is not the player he once was............i hope martin oneil can bring the best out of him.
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Wayne Bridge is not the player he once was............i hope martin oneil can bring the best out of him.
I never really understood why he went for so much money (twice) in the first place.
The team was everything it wasn't against Boro in the cup, suspect they got a bollocking.
Campbell played well, scored a good goal and went off after 70 mins, touch wood seems over his injury, so really happy for the lad. Comfortable night really 3 points, Stoke on Saturday.
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Stoke v Sunderland KO 3.00 GMT
Well I expect a totally different game from Wednesday, so it will be interesting to see what he does, I wonder if he will put in the big greek lad to add some height. I would expect Sessegnon and campbell to get a bit of rough handling today, wonder how he will cope with it.
The couple of times I have seen Stoke they haven't played well but got the points so haven't a clue what teams will turn up, we are still missing a few from injury but at the minute its hard to tell as we don't appear to miss them that much.
Have a nice weekend
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Stoke v Sunderland KO 3.00 GMT
Well I expect a totally different game from Wednesday, so it will be interesting to see what he does, I wonder if he will put in the big greek lad to add some height. I would expect Sessegnon and campbell to get a bit of rough handling today, wonder how he will cope with it.
The couple of times I have seen Stoke they haven't played well but got the points so haven't a clue what teams will turn up, we are still missing a few from injury but at the minute its hard to tell as we don't appear to miss them that much.
Have a nice weekend
I'm backing stoke on this one. after steve bruce tenure i lost all love for sunderland, great team, but hated bruce with ah passion, and that was way before the KJ fiasco. will take a long time for me to feel good about sunderland again
PS: i also hated the way the fans treated bent and KJ after their departure especially bent , who happens to be one of my favorite players.
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JC you need to lighten up man.
When players leave clubs there are always fans that will call them tata etc. thats the way fans are. KJ lost an awful lot of respect by the fans when he said if we went down he would leave just a couple of days before a vital last game, why only he knows but never the brightest move.
As for Bent its not that he left, more what he said and the way he left he is always going to get abuse. He went out of his way quite regularly going on about how much he loved the club, supporters, area etc. Nobody made him say it, he could of just been like the rest and kept his head down and said little. He went to a hotel in Brum without permission and made it clear he wasn't coming back, then made out he left for football reasons, when Villa were in danger of relegation. Him and him alone put himself in that position he took the plaudits and enjoyed them, he has to take the consequences.
It would be like me telling you how great you are, best friends, love you and never leave you, to buy me beer in the bar all night. Then someone else comes into the bar that will buy me Champagne I just bugger off and start telling them you can peel an orange in your pocket because you "only bought me beer" and never appreciated me and would never be any good for me if I stayed with you. Don't think you would be too happy, that is what basically Bent done to them in the fans eyes.
As always with these things there is very rarely just one side although people tend to pick them.
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Bit of a farce of a game, ball holding up etc. didn't really suit us at all. Very harsh sending off, well it wasn't one really. But Stoke hadn't bothered us before or after tbh.
Another 3 points, cup game midweek then Arsenal next week
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Boro v Sunderland 7.45 KO GMT
FA Cup replay, its due to be cold and both teams have a few injuries, likely to be a bit "lively". Suspect usual tactics of tryng to sit and pick them off. Bit of a derby so normal rules don't tend to apply.
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Not a great game won 2-1 after extra time.
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Sunderland v Arsenal KO 3.00 GMT
1st of 2 games in a week against Arsenal, we have them next week in the FA Cup.
We are on a great run of results just hope it continues another couple of wins and we are safe (probably just about now tbh).
The extra time wouldn't of helped through the week, expect roughly same team, just have to see how the game pans out.
Although Arsenal hammered Blackburn last week haven't been in great form before then and look vulnerable particularly on the road, they also have a CL match in mid week so not sure what team Wenger will send out. Given their form, position and injuries can't really send out that much of a "weakened" team.
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Tired performance today, although lucky lead with injury, but Arsenal never really troubled badly, bad defending for the winner. Can't complain given the run we have had, but would hope for a much better performance next week in teh cup, although we haven't really so far.
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FA Cup Sunderland v Arsenal 5.15 KO GMT
A repeat of last week, only this time Arsenal have played midweek and we have had a weeks rest.
For me it all depends how we set up and start the game off. If we do teh same as last week I can see Arsenal winning again, if more on teh front foot can see a totally different outcome. Arsenal are fragile and debatable how they will react to the heavy midweek beating.
Just wish I knew which way it was going to pan out.
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Well into next round, don't think they really bothered us at all, had a penalty shout that is one those that are sometimes given, sometimes not on this occasion not. Arsenal lack any real bottle.
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WBA v Sunderland KO 3.00 GMT
Expect usual again, let them play and hit on the break. WBA haven't got a great home record, we are showing signs of flagging last few weeks, 1 point would be handy 3 would be wonderful.
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Awful game, everybody had an off day, I think O'Neill would of changed 10 if he could today. Next week Newcastle.
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Awful game, everybody had an off day, I think O'Neill would of changed 10 if he could today. Next week Newcastle.
Sess didn't show up to work today.
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Awful game, everybody had an off day, I think O'Neill would of changed 10 if he could today. Next week Newcastle.
Newcastle looked vulnerable against Wolves today so it's a good time to play them.
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Awful game, everybody had an off day, I think O'Neill would of changed 10 if he could today. Next week Newcastle.
Sess didn't show up to work today.
Nobody turned up for work today, Sess aswell, passing was poor, everything went wrong.
Awful game, everybody had an off day, I think O'Neill would of changed 10 if he could today. Next week Newcastle.
Newcastle looked vulnerable against Wolves today so it's a good time to play them.
MON has done wonderfully well with a bit of luck and some great individual goals. He has them set up to get the points we so desperately needed with what he has available to him. There lies the problem, we don't have anybody up front that can hold the ball up, we have very similar players in midfield apart from Sessegnon and the defence isn't great although have gotten away with it. The players seem to be running on empty at the minute and a fair few won't be back until Friday with internationals. I think he has a fair bit of work to do in the summer to bring in some variety, striker and a more solid balanced defence. Just have to see what happens.
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Missed last week as busy, draw was a probably a fair result, Titeo maybe not be out of hospital yet the way he went down. ;D
Liverpool today 3.00 KO, should be interestly like watching grass grow, no Sessegnon means no guile really except a bit from McClean if he plays well. A match that always seem to have an incident Beach ball, passing for the keeper to take a kick and score, Gerrard only booked for deliberate elbow (sorry that happens quite often, not the booking of course). Roll on end of the season and some changes in the squad, far too many players that are alike, lack pace and guile, not bad players really just not enough of the other stuff to make a difference often enough.
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Another lucky shit goal in this fixture to cap a shit performance. Liverpool got a deserved result.
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Game as expected really MON inherited the squad and has them playing to get points, thats his excuse and a valid one, don't know what Daglish's is. It was awful and Liverpool were very poor but 3 points. FA Cup next week.
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Game as expected really MON inherited the squad and has them playing to get points, thats his excuse and a valid one, don't know what Daglish's is. It was awful and Liverpool were very poor but 3 points. FA Cup next week.
Kev, i might be wrong but for a man whose team is doing as well as it is since O'Neill took over I find you are really reserved in praise for Sunderland.
Sunderland have been excellent since Bruce departed and O'Neill took over. And with that playing staff at his disposal he drawing blood from a stone.
You just beat Liverpool. It not going to get any better than this for allyuh, enjoy it nuh man free up yuhself.
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Dinho
I enjoy a good game of football, I watched Bruce suck the ambition and fun out of the club and blame the fans for having too high expectations. I witnessed him by a shed load of similar players, the only way he could play was packed midfield, big lad up front when panic set in and he couldn't even manage that properly. I was absolutely estactic when he was sacked.
I was absolutely made up MON got the job because he is probably the best manager we have had since I started to support us. It however didn't take a good as manger as MON to realise you have to play a team to its strengths, with what he had left him all which are mostly same type of players that lack any real pace in defence or midfield. So what he has done is played the defence deep (beacuse of lack of pace), protected them with the midfield and when the opportunity arises get foward. Its never going to be pretty, the real difference is under Bruce the players didn't have a clue what they were suppposed to be doing and couldn't be arsed to do it often enough. Under MON they know exactly what they are supposed to be doing and better turn up most of the time. It was always going to be a grind to see out the season, with a bit of luck and some wonder goals for a few weeks running it made life more comfortable, sooner than expected for which I am eternally grateful and MON deserves enormous credit for because under Bruce it was looking very likely we would be a strong relegation candidate.
The game was awful again today and if you watched my posts over the years I am not a result based person, I judge it on performances. I don't blame MON for anything, there is a lot of changes that need to be made over the next few transfer windows. More pacey and better defenders means the team can play slightly higher up, the same with midfield with more pace and guile, a forward that can hold up the ball and MON will be able to play the way he likes, with better performances and probably better results.
I am really looking forward to the summer and hope he is given the money aswell as sales to rebuild the squad into a better, more balanced and varied unit. Then I can get excited again about where he can take us. This season is basically a write off except the cup and I just can't wait for it to finish so the rebuild can start. The other advantage with MOn is that the players will probably fetch higher prices as they all look decent in their own way.
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MON is a class act. Love his work. In recent years, he's been my favorite manager at unfashionable teams.
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Everton v Sunderland FA Cup 12.45 KO GMT
I cannot even remember the last time we beat Everton, so low expectations, but we are due a result. Similar to last week no Sessegnon so very little from us going forward, usual hit on break stuff. Very unusually Cahill didn't score against us last time, surely not 2 games in a row, he always scores against us, even when he used to play for Millwall.
Moyes rested a couple of players for the merseyside derby which was unusual given the status of that game. Celebrated 10 years in charge this week, what a great job he has done given what little money relatively speaking he has had to work with.
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Fair enough results, Cahill scored so got that right.
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Blackburn v Sunderland 8.00 KO GMT
Few injuries tonight so don't know as of yet who is missing, still No Sessegnon (who looks like he's going back to France in the summer) but last game of his ban.
Blackburn have been playing quite well lately and didn't have a fixture at the weekend so should have a bit of an advantage. Expect usual tactics and a better showing than the West Brom game, but thats about it.
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Sess back to France?? Are you serious? He has been one of the signings of the season!!
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Sess back to France?? Are you serious? He has been one of the signings of the season!!
Wife and child? still in Paris, she doesn't want to move to England I guess, he's even had time off during his ban. Think he will be gone in the summer, PSG have been rumoured for ages.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11695/7603174/O-Neill-awaits-Sessegnon-fight
O'Neill awaits Sessegnon fight
Martin O'Neill is expecting a lot of interest in Stephane Sessegnon after admitting the player's homesickness has become a serious issue.
The Benin international joined the Black Cats from Paris St Germain in January 2011 and has caught the eye with a series of impressive performances this season.
O'Neill is desperate to keep hold of the 27-year-old but accepts that a number of other clubs are likely to be monitoring his situation.
Sessegnon, who is banned for Saturday's FA Cup quarter-final against Everton, has been allowed to spend time with his family during his suspension.
He has found it difficult to settle in England but O'Neill is ready to do everything he can to sort out the problem, with Sessegnon under contract at the Stadium of Light for two more years.
Attention
"We wouldn't want to lose Sessegnon because of homesickness," said the manager.
"His family concerns are something we really have to look at now.
"We have someone at the club who's in constant touch with Sess and we will do everything we can.
"He is going to attract an awful lot of attention from big clubs."
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Under Bruce he probably would of been gone in the January window, MON isn't that daft or much of a pushover
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Another awful game, didn't even really have a shot on target, MON wasn't a happy bunny, got exactly what we deserved.
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Sunderland v QPR KO 3.00 GMT
MON reacted badly to the much desreved defeat at Blackburn, a sign that we are safe and he no longer has to stroke the players ego's so much. Sessegnon is back today, but the team look like all they have on their minds is Tuesday's FA Cup QF replay. Don't know what team MON will pick, but no doubt he will use the last 10 games or so to decide who stays and goes in the summer (if he hasn't decided already) in an effort to get a more balanced effective side.
Have a nice weekend.
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Looked like the bollocking worked, more at it yesterday, but Sessegnon makes a huge difference and McClean played really well, QPR weren't really at it tbh.
Cisse got sent off for a 2 footed lunge, one born out of frustration that he let the ball get away from him, last season probably a yellow this a straight red, can't really argue.
FA Cup replay on Tuesday night against Everton next.
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Sunderland v Everton 8.00 KO GMT
FA Cup QF replay, could go either way, Cahill is slipping only scored last time, wouldn't bet against him repeating the feat.
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Cisse like he having fits of madness.
With the suspensions how many games will he actually end up playing for QPR?
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Beat 2-0 could of been a lot worse no complaints really, we were poor.
Cisse like he having fits of madness.
With the suspensions how many games will he actually end up playing for QPR?
He is suspended for 4 matches this time as already had a 3 match ban. So he has started 5 games ( 2 sendings off 30 mins and 60 mins or so) and when he comes back QPR will have 4 matches left.
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Man City v Sunderland 3.00 KO GMT
Well if we play like we did on Tuesday, we will get hammered. Some likely changes no real LB, haven't a clue but odds are getting beat.
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Come on sunderland !!!
2-1 Sunderland 49 min!!
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How yuh mean! Sunderland have players Citeh need tuh respect their talents. When resident shithong Bendtner scoring yuh know yuh in for a long day! We will take it doh!
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bbbbbbbahahahahahahaha 3-1 Sunderland :rotfl: :rotfl:
edit: Bess goal too, nice passing
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Ah yeah! :laugh: Arsenal for second! This game also doing wonders for the gol difference!
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Once again, ah cyah say enough about Martin O'Neill. The man is a boss.
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lol Ballotelli fighting with he team mates to take the free kick (Man nearly fight on the pitch) :rotfl: what a waste of a team :rotfl:
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Any sightings of Citeh fans crying yet?
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Any sightings of Citeh fans crying yet?
u might find them on the chelsea board :rotfl:
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wow bullshit!!!
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Well im hoping for a draw now
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ill take the draw .
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Much better performance than Tuesday.
Limited to hopeful shots really, one great one by the mad Italian and one the keeper didn't see. Thought the penalty was a bit soft aswell.
At least they can't take our record of winning every home game in the top flight anymore, poetic justice we killed that dream for this season anyway.
MON didn't look happy again.
Hope everyone has a good weekend.
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Martin O'Neill on Bendtner- "I thought he played like a proper centre-forward," the manager said. "When he plays like that, he justifies his own self-vaunted opinion."
Priceless! :laugh:
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Martin O'Neill is a big coach. A bit spoiled when he doesn't get his way, but watch Sunderland's ascent since he took over.
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Tenorsaw, I think there was a bit more to it when he left Villa.
Sunderland v Spuds KO 12.45 GMT
A game I think could go either way depending on which teams turn up, Spuds haven't really been playing lately as well as they were earlier in the season.
Have a nice weekend.
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Strange manager MON, he played on Saturday like I thought he would at Man City, a point at the end of the day was fair enough but it was a boring game of containment.
Everton v Sunderland KO 3.00 GMT.
Well ist Everton, not only do they appear to have the hodoo over us, Cahill didn't score last time, I don't think he has ever played two games in a row against us and not scored. But Everton have the semi final coming up so maybe a few changes, I think MON will want a performance this time as we simply didn't turn up for the QF.
Hope everybody had an enjoyable Easter.
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4-0 bad 2nd half, ran out of legs, next game please and busy transfer window.
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Villa v Sunderland 3.00 GMT KO
Was away so didn't see last weeks game against Wolves, apparently dire do. Team has the feeling of ran out of legs / on holidays except against big teams. 4 games in a row MON has gone on about needing to strenghen so hope for a good summer, certainly need to mix it up with some different kind of players.
MON goes back to Villa for the 1st time today with a lot of Villa fans still upset he left them on the eve of the season and blaming him for all their current woes, so should be interesting. Villa are nothing special but neither are we, but I suspect better this week as it is MON's return.
Have a nice weekend.
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Last weeks game was OK, very close call on an offside, usually the linesman has to give the benefit of teh doubt to the forward, but given the last few weeks when blatant offside goals have been allowed no real surprise the flag went up. One of those that can go either way tbh. Also Gardner sent off for 2nd bookable offence, again very harsh decision, went to tackle pulled his foot away just caught the lad and a 2nd booking in the last minute or so, a nothing tackle really if the ref keeps booking players for tackles like that there would be no players left at the end of the game.
Sunderland v Bolton KO 3.00 GMT.
We're on hols so anything can happen. MON again this week went on about different players so hoping for quite a bit new blood in the summer.
Have a nice weekend.
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OK game 2-2 should of really seen it out but didn't.
MON on yet again about players, needing to do things better etc. So roll on the summer.
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Fulham v Sunderland 2.00 pm KO (GMT)
Not a clue, still on hols so just have to see. I think by the sounds of it MON has made his mind up who he wants to stay go next season and the players have been on hols for a while now.
Hope everybody has a nice weekend
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Sunderland v Manu KO 3.00 GMT
Well last game of the season, still in the EPL, which looked very unlikely when Bruce was here.
The team has been on hols for weeks now, so today doesn't really matter apart from the title thing.
Most talk for the last few weeks has been about players and next season, says it all really.
Hope everyone has a nice weekend.
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Well another season done, game as expected.
Looking forward to the summer and next season hoping MON gets some cash to buy the players he needs to sort the team out, obviously as every manager there will be one or two that don't fit. At least it won't be the same old same old with Bruce 6/7/8 players, need time to settle, need 1 or 2 more etc. etc. etc.
Don't think any of teh loanees will be staying, well would be amazed. Bendtner didn't play Sunday wasn't in teh squad, he missed the team bus so MON put him in the stands. He really is a 1st class prat. (Bendtner not MON), but I,m afraid sums up far too many present players attitudes.
Hope everyone has a great summer, pop in the odd time and see you next season.
(I know Tata Team blah blah blah) Thought I would get it in 1st. ;D
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Thanks for your faithfullness in keeping us updated on the team Kev. Hope Sunderland get sorted out next season. (we who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones) So for me, no Tata team. My team (T&T) is at it's lowest.
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Until next season Kev... looking forward to your contributions.
Meanwhile... a stunning reminder of the failures under Keane one time most expensive goalkeeper in England get released (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1074443/sunderland-release-nine-players-including-craig-gordon?cc=5901)
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Hi everyone, just when you thought it was safe to read the site I turn up again.
Hope everyone is well and your team does well this season apart from when playing us.
I,ve not been on much as am busy atm, so my apologies, haven't seen the match today and just got in, even forgot to put it up this morning.
Not a lot to say really, part from need some pace all over, still need a Left Back, CH and a winger aswell as some forwards. Only got Cuellar in, so if it stays like that will be a long old season.
Bakes as for Gordon, overpaid because of where we were, but also injury really has messed him up the last season and a half. If I could be bothered I would look back in the thread for who put his foot in delibrately imho. He did his job and kept us up, but expensive goalkeepers never seem to work out as so visible when make mistakes. I'm shocked he hasn't been fixed up though. (at least I don't think he has decent keeper if a bit draculish)
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Didn't see the game, but promising start for Sunderland. If Brown can stay healthy and support for Sessegnon can be found then Sunderland will threaten to climb into the upper half. If not, then more of the same I'm afraid.
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Welcome back Kev! I find Sunderland has been disappointing in the transfer market this summer...especially in the striker department. Fletcher was not in Wolves' squad today...so hopefully that works out. Good result today though!
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I won't get a chance tomorrow to log on in the morning so we are playing Reading at home KO 3.00 pm.
Haven't a clue the game could go either way.
Good news is that we have signed Fletcher and Adam Johnson today, I like Johnson as a player and I think MON will work on him, not really seen enough of Fletcher to have an opinion on way or the other so will just have to wait and see.
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I won't get a chance tomorrow to log on in the morning so we are playing Reading at home KO 3.00 pm.
Haven't a clue the game could go either way.
Good news is that we have signed Fletcher and Adam Johnson today, I like Johnson as a player and I think MON will work on him, not really seen enough of Fletcher to have an opinion on way or the other so will just have to wait and see.
Good signing... if for no other reason than we'll stop hearing of him being linked to LFC. Reading are a good team, played much better than anything I expected against Chelsea and deserved the win. Pogrebnyak is the truth, as is their captain (McAllum?).
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Another transfer window gone, clubs seemed to have reigned in a bit (not usual suspects).
Business was 2 x Free Cuellar and Saha, 1 x Loan Rose and 2 permanent Fletcher and Johnson. Still short so it will take a few more windows to sort the team out.
Today we are at Swansea, not a clue what will happen, again won't get a chance to see it as too busy, so will hopefully catch the highlights at some point, so no usual comment from me as there are always misleading.
Hope everyone has a nice weekend.
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Still mad busy so still not upto speed this season not getting a chance to see much football at all, still short and not enough change in summer.
Wigan tomorrow @ 3.00 pm, haven't a clue whats going to happen if I am honest.
Have a nice weekend
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Still busy so won't get a chance to see the match tomorrow.
As for last week, there was nothing between the teams until the sending off, thought it was soft although could understand it as he lunged with studs showing. Was has made it a bit confusing is that it got rescinded so back to not knowing when studs up what it is yellow or red. As I said would of been upset to see one of ours sent off for it.
Play Man City tomorrow 12.45 just have to see what happens.
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Sunderland 1 – 1 Newcastle
A decent game today, sunderland deserved the point. More impressed with Newcastle: a balanced team with firepower up front.
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Beat me to it, still busy never got a chance to post prematch.
The Man City match I didn't miss much, well deserved defeat.
Yesterday just confirmed to me that we simply didn't do enough in the summer. Couldn't of really complained if we had of got beat, but settle for a point. Too slow in thought and deed and none of Johnson, McClean or Sessegnon have hit any kind of form this season so far which makes it very hard going.
Stoke next, don't think Kenwyne will get a look in, but there are rumours of him going on loan to "Dirty Leeds".
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Well KJ get the start tomorrow and punish his old team? :challenge: ...... probably not :-\
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Well KJ get the start tomorrow and punish his old team? :challenge: ...... probably not :-\
Pulis doesn't want to play him, been obvious for a year, even to a blind man on a galloping horse.
3.00 PM Kickoff in no sort of form at all, so not much hope, but Stoke aren't that good so anything can happen really. One thing is for sure it won't be a great game to watch, paint drying springs to mind.
Have a nice weekend
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As expected, more like sticking pins in your eyes than watching paint dry ::) ::) ::)
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Still busy so didn't get a chance last week.
Played a little better in parts against Villa still won't score in a brothel though. Draw would of been a fair result but shit happens.
This week its Everton, well nothing more to say really.
Have a nice weekend.
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Not big suprise on teh result, however should of came away with at least a draw. It was a better performance and the last 2 games have seen an improvement beacuse it needs to lets hope it continues.
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Fulham away today 4.00pm.
Better performances last couple of games, but still short and table not looking good with a few bad games coming up. Not a clue whats going to happen today again.
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A very scrappy win against 10 men for a long time, but teh points are very welcome. Still no real form and its hard work watching it atm.
As for the sending off I can understand why he was sent off, but would may angry if it had of been one of ours sent off for that.
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Sunderland v West Brom 12.45 KO GMT
Still no real form as of yet, West Brom are going well so haven't a clue.
Have a nice weekend
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kev holding a lonely vigil on this thread
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Sunderland v West Brom 12.45 KO GMT
Still no real form as of yet, West Brom are going well so haven't a clue.
Have a nice weekend
Good game all the way through but sunderland's keeper made a terrible mistake.
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Showed another slight improvement, gifted 2 goals and the 3rd a very dubious penalty, well it wasn't a penalty. However I cant really blame the ref for that as at 1st look at the match I thought it was a penalty only after replays its obvious it wasn't.
Still comes back to not enough done in the transfer window another long season ahead.
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Sunderland v QPR 7.45 KO
Arry's 1st game as manager, we're still not playing well and the small amount that I have seen of QPR they have been OK. So could go either way, no doubt a few of their players will be out to impress the manager.
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Awful game against QPR enough said really.
Norwich v Sunderland 4.00 KO.
Not a clue tbh, a bit like the players it seems.
Have a nice weekend.
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Awful 1st half, decent 2nd half should of really got something out of the game.
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Awful 1st half, decent 2nd half should of really got something out of the game.
Prepare yourself for relegation this season...
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Awful 1st half, decent 2nd half should of really got something out of the game.
Prepare yourself for relegation this season...
Could happen as any than about 8 it can happen to with bad form and/or injuries, said it long enough not enough done in the summer.
Chelsea tomorrow KO 3.00.
Cattermole out for 2 months (no big deal) Fletcher a doubt.
Anything could happen but play like we did in teh 1st half and will get beat very easily.
Have a nice weeekend.
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Played better than the result suggests.
Very poor first 15 minutes or so could of been 3 down instead of 1. After that it was much better then gifted 2 goals either side of half time, a ridiculous challenge for a penalty and miscontrol in teh penalty area. Our goal was a mistake by Czech really, he took his hands away thinking it was going wide, he had to make a couple of decent saves hit the bar, so a better performance.
We play Reading Tuesday night which was postponed a while ago due to waterlogged pitch.
Need a few playesr in jan though, its going to be a long season.
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Didn't have time to post last night, 3-0 victory OK performance, points are the only thing that matters at the moment. Very hard run upto Christmas can't see many points coming our way.
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Just to let you guys know, Central F.C. received a signed photo from Sunderland and a letter of best wishes.
Very thoughtful, so big up to S.F.C.
(Although the guys down the road at Middlesboro sent a signed pennant and 6 posters!!)
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Away to Manu today KO 3.00
Not a lot of expectation ;)
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Away to Manu today KO 3.00
Not a lot of expectation ;)
I was expecting ManU to run over Sunderland, but that was not the case. Sunderland started off slowly in the first half, but certainly played well in the second half. ManU’s 1st and last goal were really due to poor defending.
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Same again really, awful start woeful defending gifting goals then played better when the game was over really.
Roll on January see who's available and whether we invest or not.
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Away at Southampton today KO 3.00.
haven't really seen them play so I simply don't know what it will be like, hope to pick up a point or 3. Haven't a clue what will happen really.
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I hope everybody had a nice Christmas and Santa was very good to you. I wish you and yours all the best for the New Year and hope it brings success, happiness and most importantly health. As always be good (too much rum, as usual ;D ), if you can't be good be careful, if you can do neither, don't get caught.
Man City today KO 3.00, not a lot to say really, not a lot of expectation either. Its a drudge this season and hopefully a couple of players this window will help to change it just have to wait and see.
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Have a happy and safe holiday season Kev.
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Have a happy and safe holiday season Kev.
Kev somewhere having a pint right about now lol
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why do I keep responding to my own posts? lol
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Man City manager said that it is the same year after year at the Stadium of Light. Merry Xmas to fans of Sunderland!
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Whooo Hoo, a quiet pint with a wry smile (well smirk tbh).
1st 20 minutes was a bit hair raising after that it was fairly even. We made the more clear cut chances and should of really sown the game up. Bit of luck with the goal should of been a foul but Kompany should of also been sent off, so evened itself out.
Mancini doesn't really like us much, very ungracious but what the hell, 3 very welcome and unexpected points, might make it that little bit easier to attract a couple of decent players in January. Spuds on Saturday.
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Sunderland v Spuds 12.45 KO
Early kick off on Sky. No real expectation today either apart from MON will have them sitting back a bit due to Spuds pace and our complete lack of it.
Have a nice weekend
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Sessegnon looking bright early... hope you beat Spurs.
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Sessegnon looking bright early... hope you beat Spurs.
Nope ;)
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Welcome back to reality kev :devil:
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Welcome back to reality kev :devil:
Not really, a bit better than expected tbh.
Liverpool - Wednesday
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Happy New Year - Happy Hang Over (or if your still pissed, get back to work ;) )
Liverpool tonight KO 7.45.
Again not a clue, but Liverpool are no great shakes so here's hoping.
Have a good one
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Happy New Year - Happy Hang Over (or if your still pissed, get back to work ;) )
Liverpool tonight KO 7.45.
Again not a clue, but Liverpool are no great shakes so here's hoping.
Have a good one
Not great... but a great deal better than Sunderbland.
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Happy New Year - Happy Hang Over (or if your still pissed, get back to work ;) )
Liverpool tonight KO 7.45.
Again not a clue, but Liverpool are no great shakes so here's hoping.
Have a good one
Not great... but a great deal better than Sunderbland.
Not really Bakes if you watched it, missed 2 sitters and another 2 good chances 1st half, gifted you 3 goals with absolute woeful defending (see past comments last few weeks) even a schoolboy team would be embarrassed about, 2nd half was dead, game gone headless chickens. Stand by what I said before the game, Liverpool are no great shakes and easy to get at as we proved 1st half but failed to take the chances and we aren't that good at making them either.
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Not really Bakes if you watched it, missed 2 sitters and another 2 good chances 1st half, gifted you 3 goals with absolute woeful defending (see past comments last few weeks) even a schoolboy team would be embarrassed about, 2nd half was dead, game gone headless chickens. Stand by what I said before the game, Liverpool are no great shakes and easy to get at as we proved 1st half but failed to take the chances and we aren't that good at making them either.
I watched every minute. Easy to "get at" you say? No mention of the two Liverpool goals that were ruled offside, one on Downing's pass to Allen where Downing was ruled to be offside (good call), the other on Johnson's goal (very iffy call, looked even). Your squad could have been embarrassed off the pitch. But okay, Liverpool were easy to get at. As a Reds supporter I thank your side for spotting us 3 goals while displaying an inability to deal with the Liverpool attack then.
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Is that an official bite Bakes, getting over sensitive in your old age.
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Sorry missed last week. A decent performance and 3 points against a West Ham that didnt turn up. Then back to a very poor performance against Bolton in the Cup, which seems to have upset Mon a bit. 2 signings so far 1 loan N'Daiye and Magane with a couple of more muted.
Today its Wigan away KO 3.00 dont know what will happen tbh. Hope you have a nice weekend
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3 points 1 good half 1 poor half and a 2 week break. Talk about possibly getting Zarate on loan maybe just agents drumming up business
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Sunderland v Swansea tonight.
Haven't a clue what will happen. N'Diaye looked OK but tired badly towards end of Wigan game, still have a few injuries and not done enough in the window, hope to see at least 2 more new faces before Friday.
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The Swansea game was awful lucky to get away with a point.
Reading away today who have been doing well lately so just have to see what happens.
Ended up signing Graham so still didn't do enough hope its enough to see the season out.
Have a nice weekend
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For Reading read Swansea.
Arsenal today, suspect an improved performance, but more of the same, as for the result not a clue although my expectations are low.
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Arsenal game was better but toothless really.
West Brom away today not a clue, still busy elsewhere hence short and sweet.
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2 average teams, penalty (given for handball, one of those that sometimes given sometimes not, but fair enough imho) and rebound off the keeper, missed a sitter at the end, still a drudge and still not safe.
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Fulham at home today, Fulham are not great away from home (understatement) but still haven't a clue at the likely outcome, although have played better lately.
Have a nice weekend
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Draw with Fulham after gifting 2 goals again.
QPR away today, an important match as need to keep the gap, what will happen is anybodies guess.
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Poor defence again last week, although good strikes far too easy.
Norwich at home today @ 1.30, if don't get anything it really is twitchy bum time ;D can't honestly say which way it will go. Repetitive but unfortunately true.
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Poor defence again last week, although good strikes far too easy.
Norwich at home today @ 1.30, if don't get anything it really is twitchy bum time ;D can't honestly say which way it will go. Repetitive but unfortunately true.
Sunderland got lucky three times in this game! Maybe they will stay up after all.
Even since Norwich entered the Premier league (with that magical run up the leagues) they are one of two small clubs that I look at with some favor.
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Sunderland got lucky three times in this game! Maybe they will stay up after all.
Even since Norwich entered the Premier league (with that magical run up the leagues) they are one of two small clubs that I look at with some favor.
"Lucky"... that's one way of describing it. Chris Foy had as poor a day as any Premier League official in a very long time. This is Rob Stiles, Graham Poll territory here. Shockingly poor performance by him and the near side assistant.
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I would say very lucky although having seen it on the box again, I can understand why teh decision went that way, but would of been very unhappy had it gone against us. FRom where the ref was it looked like the keeper handled outside the area, indeed it did hit his hands, having made that decision there was only one outcome after that, the penalty the linesman gave and that was a bit more clear cut as he did make a move with his arm after he chested it, Norwich should of also had a penalty, not sure where the ref was but it would of been hard on the linesman to spot as he was in the air and very close to the line.
It was very hard to spot one team was down to 10 men, poor again and have said it all season, not enough done in the summer. It is very squeaky bum time now with the games we have left and how poor we are. ;D
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I would say very lucky although having seen it on the box again, I can understand why teh decision went that way, but would of been very unhappy had it gone against us. FRom where the ref was it looked like the keeper handled outside the area, indeed it did hit his hands, having made that decision there was only one outcome after that, the penalty the linesman gave and that was a bit more clear cut as he did make a move with his arm after he chested it, Norwich should of also had a penalty, not sure where the ref was but it would of been hard on the linesman to spot as he was in the air and very close to the line.
It was very hard to spot one team was down to 10 men, poor again and have said it all season, not enough done in the summer. It is very squeaky bum time now with the games we have left and how poor we are. ;D
All of this sounds a lot like excuse making. If there was any contact on Bunn's "hand" it was his arm pit. Foy was so sure about his wrong decision that he never even consulted the assistant. As for the assistant... he's the same dunce who called Bassong for the handball when the ball rolled off his chest and maybe... maybe, then onto his arm. The player was running... kinda hard to run and not move your arms, no? As for the Norwich penalty that wasn't given... the linesman had (or should have had) a clear view of Rose's left foot landing six inches inside the box. Not that hard to spot from his perspective, there's a reason why the line is white and the grass green.
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I would say very lucky although having seen it on the box again, I can understand why teh decision went that way, but would of been very unhappy had it gone against us. FRom where the ref was it looked like the keeper handled outside the area, indeed it did hit his hands, having made that decision there was only one outcome after that, the penalty the linesman gave and that was a bit more clear cut as he did make a move with his arm after he chested it, Norwich should of also had a penalty, not sure where the ref was but it would of been hard on the linesman to spot as he was in the air and very close to the line.
It was very hard to spot one team was down to 10 men, poor again and have said it all season, not enough done in the summer. It is very squeaky bum time now with the games we have left and how poor we are. ;D
All of this sounds a lot like excuse making. If there was any contact on Bunn's "hand" it was his arm pit. Foy was so sure about his wrong decision that he never even consulted the assistant. As for the assistant... he's the same dunce who called Bassong for the handball when the ball rolled off his chest and maybe... maybe, then onto his arm. The player was running... kinda hard to run and not move your arms, no? As for the Norwich penalty that wasn't given... the linesman had (or should have had) a clear view of Rose's left foot landing six inches inside the box. Not that hard to spot from his perspective, there's a reason why the line is white and the grass green.
Ain't no maybe in the Bassong incident. The ball rolled down his arm clearly. The only question is one of intent. I think it was the wrong call too, but not because the handling didn't happen.
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Ain't no maybe in the Bassong incident. The ball rolled down his arm clearly. The only question is one of intent. I think it was the wrong call too, but not because the handling didn't happen.
The ball was rolling laterally across his chest so it couldn't roll down his arm, if anything it may have rolled off his bicep. People does also get tie up with the "intent" thing. The player doesn't have to intentionally handle the ball (although that's what the rule should be). Instead FIFA in their infinite lack of wisdom rule that the player must make an "intentional" movement with his arm... whether to handle the ball or not. So even if you waving at somebody in the stands (exaggerated example) and the ball hit your hand... that by the book is what they interpreted as a hand ball. Micah Richards slides to block a shot on the ground in the box and his hands instinctively go up... ball deflects of his thigh and onto his hands... handball, penalty. Harsh, stupid interpretation.
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I would say very lucky although having seen it on the box again, I can understand why teh decision went that way, but would of been very unhappy had it gone against us. FRom where the ref was it looked like the keeper handled outside the area, indeed it did hit his hands, having made that decision there was only one outcome after that, the penalty the linesman gave and that was a bit more clear cut as he did make a move with his arm after he chested it, Norwich should of also had a penalty, not sure where the ref was but it would of been hard on the linesman to spot as he was in the air and very close to the line.
It was very hard to spot one team was down to 10 men, poor again and have said it all season, not enough done in the summer. It is very squeaky bum time now with the games we have left and how poor we are. ;D
All of this sounds a lot like excuse making. If there was any contact on Bunn's "hand" it was his arm pit. Foy was so sure about his wrong decision that he never even consulted the assistant. As for the assistant... he's the same dunce who called Bassong for the handball when the ball rolled off his chest and maybe... maybe, then onto his arm. The player was running... kinda hard to run and not move your arms, no? As for the Norwich penalty that wasn't given... the linesman had (or should have had) a clear view of Rose's left foot landing six inches inside the box. Not that hard to spot from his perspective, there's a reason why the line is white and the grass green.
Not making any excuses, the ball hit the underarm of the keeper the ref was head on so from his angle he would look like handball especially as he had his arms up, most refs don't consult with their assistants if they feel they have made the right decision.
AS for the penalty it clearly hit his arm which was outstretched so as DM says its all about intent.
The Rose incident was a penalty but again he was in the air and from a side view that the linesman had it would be hard for him to tell whether it was a penalty or not. Not an excuse just an observation.
A lot of fans are very black and white about officials being right or wrong after seeing many replays and slow motion, on many occasions on here I have said the decisions were wrong but understand how the refs could give them / not give them, they only get one shot at real time and have to make the decision, I don't mind the understandable ones I hate the blatant ones, but it will continue to happen, indeed it happened in both the Everton and Wigan games with handballs at the weekend
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Not making any excuses, the ball hit the underarm of the keeper the ref was head on so from his angle he would look like handball especially as he had his arms up, most refs don't consult with their assistants if they feel they have made the right decision.
AS for the penalty it clearly hit his arm which was outstretched so as DM says its all about intent.
The Rose incident was a penalty but again he was in the air and from a side view that the linesman had it would be hard for him to tell whether it was a penalty or not. Not an excuse just an observation.
A lot of fans are very black and white about officials being right or wrong after seeing many replays and slow motion, on many occasions on here I have said the decisions were wrong but understand how the refs could give them / not give them, they only get one shot at real time and have to make the decision, I don't mind the understandable ones I hate the blatant ones, but it will continue to happen, indeed it happened in both the Everton and Wigan games with handballs at the weekend
Well no sense going back and forth... the calls were clear to me, but objectively-speaking, close enough to generate debate. So we can agree to disagree :beermug:
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Manu today @ 12.45 so an easy game then ;D
Very squeaky bum time now as Fletcher is out for the rest of the season having damaged his ankle playing for Scotland, not a good thing for a team that doesn't really look like scoring.
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Martin O'Neill: Sunderland 'part company' with manager
BBC Sport
Relegation-threatened Sunderland have announced they have "parted company" with manager Martin O'Neill.
The Black Cats currently sit one point above the Premier League relegation zone with seven games to play after the 1-0 defeat by Manchester United.
That result extended their winless spell to eight games.
A successor to O'Neill, who joined the club in 2011, "will be made in the coming days" the club added.
More to follow.
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Wtf? ???
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A surprising but understandable move by the board; a good manager but it is not working.
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Damn good manager.
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Damn good manager.
Good for short term. He seems tuh be one overly intense manager who doesn't know when tuh pull back and appears to work his players' nerves and they tune him out. And he gets burned out because he only has one gear,hence his lack of longevity at clubs. Also he walked out on Villa/ his players just as the season was about tuh start a few seasons ago.
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Damn good manager.
Good for short term. He seems tuh be one overly intense manager who doesn't know when tuh pull back and appears to work his players' nerves and they tune him out. And he gets burned out because he only has one gear,hence his lack of longevity at clubs. Also he walked out on Villa/ his players just as the season was about tuh start a few seasons ago.
Not really
Wycombe 5 years
Norwich Months
Leciester 5 years
Celtic 5 Years
Down to simply not enough change in the players, didn't take the opportunity to improve it by the required amount in January, whether him or money. Owner has seen has hit panic button. I wasn't happy but would of liked to seen him given the summer, has one of the best records.
Paulo Di Canio is on his way for talks, it basically sums it up how little Short understands the game.
As for the game it showed exactly where we have been lacking too slow in thought and deed by a mile.
Villa 4 years
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Damn good manager.
Good for short term. He seems tuh be one overly intense manager who doesn't know when tuh pull back and appears to work his players' nerves and they tune him out. And he gets burned out because he only has one gear,hence his lack of longevity at clubs. Also he walked out on Villa/ his players just as the season was about tuh start a few seasons ago.
Not really
Wycombe 5 years
Norwich Months
Leciester 5 years
Celtic 5 Years
Down to simply not enough change in the players, didn't take the opportunity to improve it by the required amount in January, whether him or money. Owner has seen has hit panic button. I wasn't happy but would of liked to seen him given the summer, has one of the best records.
Paulo Di Canio is on his way for talks, it basically sums it up how little Short understands the game.
As for the game it showed exactly where we have been lacking too slow in thought and deed by a mile.
Villa 4 years
Why does he always leave after 5 or 4 years? IMO David Moyes is a better manager who season after season continues to produce teams on a smaller budget, that play attractive football and compete in matches consistently. O'Neil seems tuh have problems motivating his players, and himself after a while of being in the job and ends up leaving before he gets fired. And the usual excuse is he didn't get money to buy more players.
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Damn good manager.
Good for short term. He seems tuh be one overly intense manager who doesn't know when tuh pull back and appears to work his players' nerves and they tune him out. And he gets burned out because he only has one gear,hence his lack of longevity at clubs. Also he walked out on Villa/ his players just as the season was about tuh start a few seasons ago.
Absolute nonsense.
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Damn good manager.
Good for short term. He seems tuh be one overly intense manager who doesn't know when tuh pull back and appears to work his players' nerves and they tune him out. And he gets burned out because he only has one gear,hence his lack of longevity at clubs. Also he walked out on Villa/ his players just as the season was about tuh start a few seasons ago.
Absolute nonsense.
Same to you!
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The average time for a manager in the prem is less than 2 years at a club, I think that what has been said before. That includes long stays for Ferguson, Wenger and Moyes. MON has a history of his 1st full season being his worse then it tends to improve. The fact he has had relatively few jobs speaks volumes. Anyway its done so no point in going on about it.
Di Canio has been confirmed http://www.safc.com/news/club-news/2013/march/new-head-coach-confirmed
Its a strange one but I don't think there will be a dull moment for however long it lasts, I suspect not too long.
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The average time for a manager in the prem is less than 2 years at a club, I think that what has been said before. That includes long stays for Ferguson, Wenger and Moyes. MON has a history of his 1st full season being his worse then it tends to improve. The fact he has had relatively few jobs speaks volumes. Anyway its done so no point in going on about it.
Di Canio has been confirmed http://www.safc.com/news/club-news/2013/march/new-head-coach-confirmed
Its a strange one but I don't think there will be a dull moment for however long it lasts, I suspect not too long.
Kev it looks like yuhs guy will be traveling to darby and wolves next season. :rotfl:
what all those loud mouths like captain fishpaste and the other KJ haters like major major with the "dog with a balloon" comments, what they wouldn't give to have mr greedy money bags (bent) and dog with ah ballon (KJ) back @ sunderland for the remaining seven games.
the old folks had a saying, "never damn the bridge that you crossed, for God know you might need to cross it again". hoping that yuhs guys survive, stoke and sunderland both, but would love to see villa and wigan take the tumble though. :rotfl: :rotfl:
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The average time for a manager in the prem is less than 2 years at a club, I think that what has been said before. That includes long stays for Ferguson, Wenger and Moyes. MON has a history of his 1st full season being his worse then it tends to improve. The fact he has had relatively few jobs speaks volumes. Anyway its done so no point in going on about it.
Di Canio has been confirmed http://www.safc.com/news/club-news/2013/march/new-head-coach-confirmed
Its a strange one but I don't think there will be a dull moment for however long it lasts, I suspect not too long.
Only because of my respect for you Kev that I won't laugh at your misery... but I seriously have to wonder if your ownership and management have anything resembling a clue. Martin O'Neill won't be out of work long. I wish DiCanio well, but I don't see him improving on the exeperiences of Kean, Bruce and O'Neill.
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The average time for a manager in the prem is less than 2 years at a club, I think that what has been said before. That includes long stays for Ferguson, Wenger and Moyes. MON has a history of his 1st full season being his worse then it tends to improve. The fact he has had relatively few jobs speaks volumes. Anyway its done so no point in going on about it.
Di Canio has been confirmed http://www.safc.com/news/club-news/2013/march/new-head-coach-confirmed
Its a strange one but I don't think there will be a dull moment for however long it lasts, I suspect not too long.
Only because of my respect for you Kev that I won't laugh at your misery... but I seriously have to wonder if your ownership and management have anything resembling a clue. Martin O'Neill won't be out of work long. I wish DiCanio well, but I don't see him improving on the exeperiences of Kean, Bruce and O'Neill.
He's american he hasn't a clue, fairly obvious with leaving Bruce in charge for so long, players bought etc. There have been rumours about MON's wife again for a while and tbh he hasn't looked / sounded like himself for a while. A good manager decent man that will have his pride wounded.
There is no real reason / logic to this he might get the players up for a while but Keane will seem like a choir boy in comparison. There is nothing to suggest PDC can manage in the prem and its a mess, fortunately I have been through a lot worse with my team so no real biggie.
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Chelsea away today, should be interesting to see what happens, your guess is as good as mine. A bemusing season.
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2 crap goals chelsea score...real hard luck for sunderland...dey look deflated
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We did OK in the game, 2 own goals and a deflection. Chelsea never really bothered the keeper much, by teh same token we didn't bother Czech. Next week Newcastle away so blood and thunder time.
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Newcastle away 12.00 KO, big squeaky bum time, a dose of blood and thunder which would make a big change, is it guns blazing or out with a whimper I wish I could say which one it will be, hope for the former, dread the latter.
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In Sunderland, the trains run on time.
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3 very good and much needed points. ;D
Unusually for this fixture also a decent game to watch and 3 cracking goals, couple of iffy decisions, including a penalty or two and a possible sending off.
Still very squeaky bum time.
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3 very good and much needed points. ;D
Unusually for this fixture also a decent game to watch and 3 cracking goals, couple of iffy decisions, including a penalty or two and a possible sending off.
Still very squeaky bum time.
Di Canio is pure Blockbuster Stuff.. His celebrations were beyond epic
;D
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Shaka Hislop on Paolo Di Canio: He's no racist but he does need to explain himself
Former West Ham goalkeeper Shaka Hislop does not believe his ex-teammate Paolo Di Canio is a racist, but has called on his former colleague to offer a proper explanation of his political belief
Full story here (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/shaka-hislop-paolo-di-canio-1816518)
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I was away over the weekend so didn't get a chance to post or go to the match, no biggie as we never get anything from Everton, but did this time, probably need 3 more points to be safe with QPR and Reading looking like they have gone.
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Villa away tonight @ 8.00.
Only 1 relegation place left and still squeaky bum time, a win tonight should see that off, but not a clue what will happen.
Hope everybody had a nice weekend
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Hit for six! ;D
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Strangely a decent game certainly to watch, we have played worse this season some good goals, some poor defending as above in a few posts, deflection and a sending off (bit harsh imo), difference this time was chased the game. My bum is squeaked out atm, 3 games left, 3 points needed, Stoke next.
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Stoke tonight at home KO 8.00.
With results at the weekend not being great my bum is squeaked out, what will happen god only knows could win, will we be hit for 6 again, I suspect putting red hot pins in your eyes maybe a less painful option than watching this one.
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Stoke tonight at home KO 8.00.
With results at the weekend not being great my bum is squeaked out, what will happen god only knows could win, will we be hit for 6 again, I suspect putting red hot pins in your eyes maybe a less painful option than watching this one.
This game will either end in a draw or a stoke win! if sunderland loses then they can forget the prem, for we all know that wiggle out of relegation wigan will survive ..... as usual!! and either sunderland or norwich will get the hurt! :pissedoff:
for once i will like to see no spending broke arse waste of space wigan get fackin relegated, they defo belong in the dogone championship @ best, but we all know they will make a late run to fend off relegation and survive once again. :frustrated:
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The Di Canio effect wear off real fast.
Them trains running late again.
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for once i will like to see no spending broke arse waste of space wigan get fackin relegated, they defo belong in the dogone championship @ best, but we all know they will make a late run to fend off relegation and survive once again. :frustrated:
Wigan is the 'TT in Germany' of the Prem. If you anti-underdog, you anti- us achieving anything of note. Hope Wigan do well.
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for once i will like to see no spending broke arse waste of space wigan get fackin relegated, they defo belong in the dogone championship @ best, but we all know they will make a late run to fend off relegation and survive once again. :frustrated:
Wigan is the 'TT in Germany' of the Prem. If you anti-underdog, you anti- us achieving anything of note. Hope Wigan do well.
Fack wigan! they deserve to be relegated!!
what do you say about a team who sell their best players yr in yr out and still wants to stay in the big leagues and compete well??:pissedoff:
they sold antonio vallencia, titus bramble, jason roberts, wilson palacios, charles Nzogbia, victor moses, hugho rodellaga, and i know i missed someone somewhere in there, and the worst part? they don't ever spend the money to replace the players they sold.
i'm fedup of them always making late runs just to stay in the prem, but during the season they just compete really badly. i'd much rather see teams like QPR and nowrich stay up who really wants to be there!
so fack all the lame comparisons like T&T being in the WC, and mind you that was a one shot deal that worked against us severely, IMO i would much rather have seen all that money we spend to go to a WC went into youth development centers and academies.
wigan on the other hand has been in the prem for ten yrs or more and all they do is compete badly and make late runs to stay in the prem yr after yr! it's time for them to ride the fack out!!
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Wigan there since 2005.
I like them though... every year like clockwork they does skate in. yuh does just have to smile man.
One day they ent go make it... maybe this year. Just enjoy the drama.
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Wigan there since 2005.
I like them though... every year like clockwork they does skate in. yuh does just have to smile man.
One day they ent go make it... maybe this year. Just enjoy the drama.
Well it seemed like they were there forever!
it's not that i hatin on wigan, but you have to admit that they are an abysmal club!
they sell their best players every season and never replace them with anyone decent, then they bum the first half of the season and coming down to the wire they start playing spoiler just to escape relegation.
i tired ah dem now.
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Well it seemed like they were there forever!
it's not that i hatin on wigan, but you have to admit that they are an abysmal club!
they sell their best players every season and never replace them with anyone decent, then they bum the first half of the season and coming down to the wire they start playing spoiler just to escape relegation.
i tired ah dem now.
Watch de problem there... You right and you wrong at the same time.
Martinez is a good coach with a good eye for talent. He actually does replace the players with good talent. That Wigan team is loaded with good cheap talent, but because he bring in players who catch the eye, bigger clubs come in and poach.
Lets face it, Wigan is a small time club and part of their business model is selling on players. Now, and I firmly believe this is a factor, because every year Wigan does have to start fresh, they always behind the 8 ball. Then they will get reinforcements in December and by March they now start to gel and play football. Is a vicious cycle they are stuck in.
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This game will either end in a draw or a stoke win! if sunderland loses then they can forget the prem, for we all know that wiggle out of relegation wigan will survive ..... as usual!! and either sunderland or norwich will get the hurt! :pissedoff:
for once i will like to see no spending broke arse waste of space wigan get fackin relegated, they defo belong in the dogone championship @ best, but we all know they will make a late run to fend off relegation and survive once again. :frustrated:
Nah breds, you definitely on shit on dat one... Wigan is class, Martinez just never get the horses he wants to run his style of football. They play hard and they play the game with both style and integrity. They always seem to be piddling along until the second half of the season when they tend to hit a Feb/March vein of form that seems to salvage the season and stave off relegation. Plus he has Dennis Lawrence on staff... can't agree with you on wishing relegation on them.
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Well it seemed like they were there forever!
it's not that i hatin on wigan, but you have to admit that they are an abysmal club!
they sell their best players every season and never replace them with anyone decent, then they bum the first half of the season and coming down to the wire they start playing spoiler just to escape relegation.
i tired ah dem now.
Watch de problem there... You right and you wrong at the same time.
Martinez is a good coach with a good eye for talent. He actually does replace the players with good talent. That Wigan team is loaded with good cheap talent, but because he bring in players who catch the eye, bigger clubs come in and poach.
Lets face it, Wigan is a small time club and part of their business model is selling on players. Now, and I firmly believe this is a factor, because every year Wigan does have to start fresh, they always behind the 8 ball. Then they will get reinforcements in December and by March they now start to gel and play football. Is a vicious cycle they are stuck in.
Spot on! And not only do they sell, but they are forced to sell. This is the genius of Martinez as a coach and talent evaluator... he buys cheap and coaches his players up to the point that they almost uniformly leave the club more valuable than when they arrive. Take for instance Beausejour, it's a wonder that they've been able to hold onto him given how good he is at crossing the ball. An attacking winger who can cross the ball is an extremely desirable commodity in English football. Consider this then, for this current campaign, only two other players in the entire EPL has sent in more crosses than Beausejour... Lleyton Baines and Gareth Bale. That is very heady company the Chilean keeping.
The problem of course is that Wigan can't spend like the other moneyed clubs and so they perennially doomed to being mediocre just on talent alone. This creates a conundrum for talented players like a Victor Moses who have aspirations of playing on a winning team. Just Cool faulting them for selling players, but not matter how big or small the club, once a player expresses a desire to play elsewhere it's next to impossible to keep him, so they have to sell.
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Well a draw, having thought last weeks red card was harsh, this weeks wasn't. Strangely better after going down to 10 men.
As for Wigan they haven't got any choice but to sell players its the way they keep going, however with the new TV and a lot more money coming in it may not be case as much.
Southampton on Saturday.
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Southampton at home today 3.00. A win will see us safe unless absolutely trashed at Spuds on last day, I wish I could say it will happen but not a clue. Southampton themselves are aren't of it.
A lot of teams will have their eyes on Wigan at Arsenal on Tuesday.
Hope you had a nice weekend.
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An abysmal 1st half showed all the reasons why down there, better 2nd half when actually got a few players over the half way line, but couldn't see it out. Could need a draw at Spuds if Wigan beat Arsenal and Villa.
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Well it seemed like they were there forever!
it's not that i hatin on wigan, but you have to admit that they are an abysmal club!
they sell their best players every season and never replace them with anyone decent, then they bum the first half of the season and coming down to the wire they start playing spoiler just to escape relegation.
i tired ah dem now.
Nice article on Wigan, Martinez and their owner Whelan. Touches on the football side and the business model.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/15/wigan-athletic-roberto-martinez
Why Wigan need the Roberto Martínez way to get back into Premier League
Though Martínez deserves to be operating at a higher level it would be easy to imagine Wigan looking ordinary without him
So much for the power of positive thinking. It turns out you still have to defend to Premier League standards, otherwise you leak goals, lose matches and eventually get relegated, even if you did stun the world only three days earlier by winning the FA Cup.
Everyone could see Wigan Athletic were in danger, indeed since their calamitous home defeat to Swansea City a week ago the mood music has been intensifying like the score to a Hitchcock film, yet apparently the trapdoor to the Championship came as a complete surprise to their manager. "I never, ever expected us to get relegated," Roberto Martínez said after losing 4-1 at Arsenal confirmed the worst. "We had to win the last two games but I was very confident my team could do that. We are not a team that deserves to be in the bottom three."
Oh yes you are, Roberto, because the league table says so, and everyone knows what they say about league tables. Wigan have been in or around the bottom three for most of the season and, like leaving yourself in a situation where you have to win at the Emirates in order to be able to duke it out against Aston Villa on the last day, that is not the best way to go about staying in the top flight. The Wigan fans have known this for months, of course, in fact plenty of Wigan fans feared their side might actually win against Arsenal then blow up against Villa at home, but at least doing it this way puts an end to the misery and suspense and clears the last day for the weirdest ever FA Cup homecoming.
Strictly speaking, especially from a financial point of view, staying in the Premier League is supposed to be more important than winning the FA Cup, but with Wigan surviving so many relegation scrapes over the years, and so few teams outside the top four or five getting their hands on major silverware, this might be an exception.
If you had suggested to Wigan supporters earlier in the year that they would go down but take the FA Cup with them, many would have jumped at the bargain. Wigan were the envy of just about every club outside the Champions League elite at Wembley on Saturday, and after the thin gruel on which the club has subsisted for much of this season, a break in the Championship with Lancashire derbies against Bolton, Burnley, Blackpool and Blackburn is perhaps not the worst of outcomes.
As Arsène Wenger said on Tuesday, the Wigan team as currently constructed need have no fears in the Championship and would quite possibly bounce back at the first time of asking, though a lot depends on whether Martínez goes or stays. Wigan might have found it hard to hang on to players such as Callum McManaman, Shaun Maloney and Arouna Koné even had they stayed up, but they are used to selling on players each season, it is part of their business model. The future of the manager is far more important to the future of the club.
Put simply, if Wigan want to get back at the first or second attempt, they need to retain Martínez and keep the same system going. The way the Latics finished last season and the way they have performed in the FA Cup this year suggests they are doing quite a lot right, not least bringing the best out of players who might look ordinary anywhere else. Credit for that must go to Martínez, who must know that if he does jump ship, to Everton or anywhere else, it will take time to impose his style and demands on a new set of players, while a new set of fans would not be as patient or grateful as the DW crowd during the transition. Conversely, a new manager at Wigan, stripped of some of this season's best players, might find it difficult to recapture the highs of the Premier League era. It would be easy to imagine Wigan without Martínez looking, well, ordinary.
Martínez himself is the main enigma here. On the one hand the likeable and eloquent Wigan manager clearly deserves to be operating at a higher level – though one wonders how well his relegation denial routine went down among hard-nosed Everton supporters – and on the other he famously turned down Aston Villa a couple of years ago because he had unfinished business at Wigan. He has even more unfinished business now, and though few would begrudge him an onwards and upwards move, he has such a unique relationship with his chairman that it would not be the greatest surprise were he to stay to try to repair the damage, not to mention lead the Tics into Europe.
Dave Whelan is a less enigmatic figure. Think traditional Victorian mill owner. Absolute genius when it comes to making money, a bit less enthusiastic when it comes to spending it. While it is true that Wigan would have made more money by remaining in the top flight, it is also the case that they would have had to retain players and find new ones on the sort of stratospheric salaries that make old-fashioned businessmen wince. In his wildest dreams Whelan could never have expected eight seasons in the Premier League. No one could. But parachute payments and the chance to prune the wage bill every now and again probably do not strike Whelan as such a bad idea either.
Wigan were a well-run club in the Premier League and will continue to be a well-run club in the Championship. They might be back next year, they might be away some time, but beyond a certain level of spending to remain competitive, they will not be throwing silly money around to get promoted.
Perhaps the most satisfying aspect of a highly eventful eight seasons capped by a truly remarkable FA Cup success was that silly money was not involved. Yes, Whelan is a multimillionaire, and without his backing none of this would have happened, but football runs on money these days, you don't get anywhere on dreams alone. Wigan have not broken any transfer records or been threatened with bankruptcy. They have survived and flourished in the shadow of absolutely huge spending by Manchester City, Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool – all of whom they have beaten – and they have brought through or showcased an impressive list of players.
Wigan might still be synonymous with rugby league rather than football, but among those who owe it thanks are Leighton Baines, Jimmy Bullard, Arjan de Zeeuw, Jason Roberts, Antonio Valencia, Victor Moses, Paul Scharner, Mohamed Diamé, Charles N'Zogbia and Hugo Rodallega, not to mention Emmerson Boyce, Ben Watson and the Cup final crop of new discoveries.
All this, and northern soul too. Where else in the world would you get Do I Love You (Indeed I Do) by Frank Wilson at half-time? If the DJ at the DW is as good on Sunday as he (or she) has been in the past, the party proceedings against Villa will undoubtedly close with what the Wigan Casino audience knew as the three before eight. The all-night sessions would end at 8am, and every week the same time-related tunes would be played in the same order, as a reminder to people having a great time that nothing lasts forever, but you can always look forward to doing it again. If you can name the three records, in the right order, you are probably a Wiganer, a dancer or a musicologist. For everyone else, they are, or were: Long After Tonight Is All Over, by Jimmy Radcliffe; Tobi Legend's Time Will Pass You By, then I'm On My Way, by Dean Parrish. As Martínez would undoubtedly confirm, Wigan has a certain style.
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Spuds today and thanks to Arsenal nothing riding on it for us. We survived through the failing of others rather than ourselves. Di Canio has had a lot to say since and a lot of players will be coming in who probably are Bosmans / frees etc. because as I said at the beginning we simply didn't change enough.
Di Canio is a bit like Keane, without some demons but a little more volatile, it will be interesting seeing what happens, although less so listening, whatever it won't be boring for however long he lasts ( I suspect not that long).
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Spuds today and thanks to Arsenal nothing riding on it for us. We survived through the failing of others rather than ourselves. Di Canio has had a lot to say since and a lot of players will be coming in who probably are Bosmans / frees etc. because as I said at the beginning we simply didn't change enough.
Di Canio is a bit like Keane, without some demons but a little more volatile, it will be interesting seeing what happens, although less so listening, whatever it won't be boring for however long he lasts ( I suspect not that long).
Your comparison to Keane is apt. I'm not sold on Di Canio yet, you'll have to sweat through the 1st half of next season to find out.
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Got away with a 1-0 defeat, Spurs should of had a penalty really. Another sending off for 2 bookings, 1st one a bit harsh I thought 2nd yellow typical tackle from a slow player on a quick player but nothing nasty this time.
Di Canio has had a rant about players professionalism etc. don't think he wants to keep many, personally can't blame him, but really should keep his mouth shut.
Have a nice summer I am still busy so won't pop in much.
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Sunderland will be the new Wigan in the prem. Good luck keeping head above water. :salute:
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Sunderland will be the new Wigan in the prem. Good luck keeping head above water. :salute:
Yeh right.... ::)
bro sunderland have money and name, wigan was broke!
good players don't go to broke teams that is struggling. remember sunderland attracted the likes of bent, gyan, sessegnon, danny rose, and o'shea. watch and see if di canni eh bring in ah bunch of big name players next season
have you noticed that teams with very little funding normally makes the fall? pompey, darby, borough, now wigan, these teams never make the fall and bounce right back like new castle and west-ham.
ellis short have real bread son, and he's pumping it into sunderland, and as long as he's there the likelyhood of them being relegated is slim to none. ;)
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Sunderland will be the new Wigan in the prem. Good luck keeping head above water. :salute:
Sunderland are something like top 5 in spending in the prem over the last 5 / 7 years the money isn't the problem whats bought with it has been. Look back at last year beginning of this year and you will see I wasn't happy with the squad at all. Bruce bought a lot of squad players not too many 1st team players. Our problem is the number of players we need and its always a gamble when you change so many.
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Well here we are again. I hope I find everyone well I'm still very busy but there is light at the end of the tunnel. I haven't even looked in on the board all summer which is unusual for me.
Well we have signed "10 players" some young for the development squad which I suspect will be pushed into the 1st team sold a few including Mignolet to Liverpool, he basically kept us in the Prem last season.
I haven't a clue what to expect this season lots of new players (which were desperately needed) foreign, young no Prem experience it could be OK or it could go very horribly wrong, add to that the volatile manager (will he see out of the season) and I am sure it won't be dull whichever way it goes.
Still haven't got a Left or Right back, Bardsley isn't going to play a part and also Cattermole has been told to find a new club and still need a CH.
Fulham at home today 3.00 KO literally haven't a clue what will happen apart from there will be more going forward.
Hope your team has a good season and at least 3 have a worse one than us.
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A game in which we dominated possession and lost to some poor defending at Fulhams only corner and real chance on goal.
Having said that apart from 2 saves their keeper had little to do as most were long range shots, didn't create many clear cut chances, which given the amount of the ball we had should of. I can't remember our keeper having to make a save tbh. Still a couple of players short as PDC knows, a workmanlike performance which will be enough on some occasions but probably not enough, however it wasn't as disjointed as I thought it might be. The fixture list hasn't been kind so it could easily run into a confidence thing we will just have to wait and see what the next 2 weeks brings. Southampton away next week.
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Southampton away today 3.00 KO.
Again not a clue as I haven't seen enough of them, PDC hoping for at least 1 more signing this week, bought another 19 yo Greek winger Marvias last week after failing to get him on loan, however PDC says he isn't fit enough yet.
In for an interesting week ahead.
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Total opposite of last week, they had all possession we got a goal through bad defending from a set piece. At the end some more bad defending cost us 2 points, still probably a point more than we deserved.
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The good news is that Frazier Campbell scored twice. Oh wait...
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The good news is that Frazier Campbell scored twice. Oh wait...
I quite like Campbell but it was one of those that never worked out at a club, mainly I think because of the two bad injuries he had, change of manager and trying to get back to fitness, then coming to the end of his contract, with his injuries do you extend his contract, let him go for free in the summer or get a small fee. Good luck to the lad I hope he continues scoring.
You have got yourself a decent keeper there, but has 2 areas he needs to improve be more agressive/confident on crosses and get off his line quicker when needs must, but still very young for a keeper.
Palace away today KO 5.30 need to get some points because of our up and coming fixtures, haven't a clue whether we will or not. Won 4-2 through teh week but teh score hides the poor performance.
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Beat 3-1 with even more Keystone Cop defending with O'Shea sent off. International break and I would suggest he works on defending especially in the air we are really awful at it. We are not really creating anything with a lot of possession but at least Fletcher is back. nd of the transfer window tomorrow still need a few players. The next lot of fixtures aren't good including, Manu, Arsenal, Liverpool and teh derby against Newcastle PDC is already feeling teh pressure so it will be interesting to watch.
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Arsenal at home today @ 3.00. Don't expect anything, we continue to defend like we are and its only a matter of when not if we get a right hiding.
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Arsenal should of been out of sight by half time, 2nd half was different. REf blew for a foul and Altidore went on to score, fair enough really, probably a bit too quick with his whistle but it happens, but he should of seen red not yellow, ref had a hint it was a goal scoring opportunity after the ball ended up in the net. Usual bias at play again.
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West Brom away today @ 3, haven't a clue tbh but need a point or 3.
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Hard luck there Kev.
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What is the scene with Di Canio?
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What is the scene with Di Canio?
Is long time he mad lol
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Do we keep this thread when they relegated to the championship division? Kev may have to start supporting Newcastle soon enough :o. All Sunderland's money may not be able to bail them out this time...
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Two poor teams in reality, we played OK for 20 minutes or so and the goal came against run of play really, then they went to a shambles, 3 subs and Fletcher then got injured (dislocated shoulder so out for a while) and 2 more goals from again poor defending.
What is the scene with Di Canio?
If you may score I struggle to figure him out, he is a bit hard to warm to for me as its always about him. He may of passed his badges with honours but his man management is tata, blames players, says wrong things and trying to play a system that we simply haven't got the players for. I feel sorry for him as I said at the beginning of the season cutting costs when you need a lot of improvement in the squad doesn't bode well. Add to that he lack of experience, no experience of the new team that are supposed to be buying players its all a big risk and somewhat predictable. Not only that he makes Keane look stable ;D
Do we keep this thread when they relegated to the championship division? Kev may have to start supporting Newcastle soon enough :o. All Sunderland's money may not be able to bail them out this time...
My 1st season ticket was after we got relegated to the old 3rd division (League One now) for the 1st time in our history, what money they haven't spent anything when they needed to most. Thread will keep on going come what may as I have seen it all before so no big deal
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Paolo Di Canio: Sunderland reign that lasted only six months
I thought that I would not pay much attention to Sunderland this season. The presence of the controversial manager (Di Canio) was a minor factor. However with the hiring of Jozy Altidore, things changed a little. Now that Di Canio has been fired, I think the team will improve.
Both pundits on NBC sports network were saying that they though he would not be fired and that he would get at least a few more weeks to straighten things out.
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Well that was short, a bit shorter than I thought this season but only a matter of when not if, said it in previous posts, owner making same obvious mistakes.
The fans at WBA were signing sacked in the morning to him as he stood and took abuse for a good while in front of them on the pitch at full time. I will give him his due he didn't hide and said a lot about current state of play with players, their attitudes etc. that struck a chord with many fans of probably a lot of clubs, probably not delivered in the best way though.
All too predictable I'm afraid a blind man on a galloping horse could see what was going to happen the day he was given the job.
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don't know what de hell Sunderland board was thinking in de first place. You don't play Russian roulette with your team.
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Liverpool today @ 4.00 no expectation whatsoever
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Didn't get to the game busy, didn't even see the highlights just caught the goals so can't really comment on last week, will get today. Manu @ 5.30 so same as above really. The owner might be a successful businessman man but he is tata at running a football club, clueless which you would expect from an American but after 4 years you would of thought he would of learned something but apparently not.
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It was an OK performance against a below par Manu, seem to be suffering the Moyes slow start he used to have at Everton. Again poor defending, thank god for the international break. If rumours are to be believed Poyet is due to be appointment in the next day or so.
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Gus Poyet got next. I almost feel sorry for him...
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Don't know if another experiment is the way to go. No telling if Poyet could handle Prem management. Pulis woulda had them safe. The football would've been terrible, but I could absolutely see the players that Sunderland have fitting that Stoke system very well.
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Well Poyet's first match is Swansea away @ 3.00. haven't a clue and very little expectation, that hasn't changed since before the season tbh.
As for Poyet being an experiment / gamble the reality is nobody decent wanted the job even if available, not surprised really bottom of the table, little no money and no control over transfers or indeed the players. I wish the guy luck he will need it, but a lot of changes need to be made in the summer.
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Well last weeks game was a typical performance did OK for half of it, went to pieces after a goal, 2 own goals and a stupid penalty all goals poor defending again and the keeper to thank for a few saves. Poyet has already started hinting about dropping players, his problem is its the "senior" ones that got rid of Di Canio so a problem for him to solve.
Big one today Newcastle at home KO 1.30. Again I have little expectation we will just have to wait and see how it all pans out, I think I already know as I have seen it a good few times now.
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Big up yuhself Kev!
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I like that he's sticking by Bardsley, who was obviously laughing at DiCanio's failure and not the club/fans.
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Well 3 points last week, very welcome even at this stage of teh season its more about points, depressing already. Hull away today @ 3.00, Bruce already going on about a mistake to take the Sunderland job because of where he was from etc. Not really he wasn't sacked because he was a Geordie he was sacked because he was useless, he is right in a way, it was the clubs mistake to give him the job in the 1st place.
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Another own goal, keeper injured and subbed and 2 sent off, not a bad first half by our standards. ;D ;D ;D
Its a very bad sign the gallows humour has started so early into the season. We never really looked like scoring again even with 11 on the pitch including 3 forwards, usual problem balance and defence.
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Well Man City at home today KO 2.05.
No expectation whatsoever with this one, a deal of apprehension though.
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Well Man City at home today KO 2.05.
No expectation whatsoever with this one, a deal of apprehension though.
I predict this is gonna be ugly...
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Another very welcome 3 points so doesn't look as bad. Good 1st half performance and hardly touched the ball 2nd half, having said that City didn't really have that many clear cut chances. No game next week due to international break, have a good week.
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Stoke away today @ 3.00. As usual no real clue as to what will happen, Stoke are struggling a bit aswell so don't expect a thrilling game. A point or 3 would be very handy and put us back into the mix a bit. WE are poor in the air at the back (an understatement) so wonder if Kenwyne will play.
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Beaten 2-0 but the real talking point was Wes Brown being sent off (no change there this season) however might aswell give in football if that red card is upheld. To add insult to injury Bergovic caught Fletcher chest high with his studs, no foul no card and was much more dangerous than Browns. Personally thought just one of those things but cant understand how the ref can see one as dangerous play and not the other, joke.
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Beaten 2-0 but the real talking point was Wes Brown being sent off (no change there this season) however might aswell give in football if that red card is upheld. To add insult to injury Bergovic caught Fletcher chest high with his studs, no foul no card and was much more dangerous than Browns. Personally thought just one of those things but cant understand how the ref can see one as dangerous play and not the other, joke.
Kev those kind of decisions even themselves out during the course of a season. Unfortunately for you a third of the season is gone and you're in last place. Focus on the play and not the decisions ;)
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Beaten 2-0 but the real talking point was Wes Brown being sent off (no change there this season) however might aswell give in football if that red card is upheld. To add insult to injury Bergovic caught Fletcher chest high with his studs, no foul no card and was much more dangerous than Browns. Personally thought just one of those things but cant understand how the ref can see one as dangerous play and not the other, joke.
Kev those kind of decisions even themselves out during the course of a season. Unfortunately for you a third of the season is gone and you're in last place. Focus on the play and not the decisions ;)
People always say that, but it's seldom true when you at the bottom.
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Well Brown got his 3 match ban removed and the ref isn't doing the next 2 lots of prem matches. Away to Villa today so just have to wait and see if we manage to keep 11 on the pitch.
Hope everyone has a nice weekend
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0-0 draw so a point is a good thing and 11 men on the pitch what more can you ask, it was an awful game, Chelsea midweek.
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Chelsea at home 7.45 KO no clue, nor expectation so any points will be a bonus.
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It would be easier if you didn't score on yourselves.
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It would be easier if you didn't score on yourselves.
and they get to gifts on top of dat , Altidore deserve full credit for dat shot though
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It would be easier if you didn't score on yourselves.
What about tradition, we don't do things easy ;D
Not a bad game but again poor defending from a poor defence and sloppy midfield.
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Spurs at home KO 5.30 GMT (SNF SS).
Usual not a clue so just have to wait and see after the midweek antics.
Have a nice weekend
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It would be easier if you didn't score on yourselves.
:banginghead:
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It would be easier if you didn't score on yourselves.
:banginghead:
He's our top goal scorer good player that OG.
Didn't deserve anything :frustrated:
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West Ham away today @ 3.00. Its looked bad since teh summer but really need some points todays or it will be looking grim indeed as the gap will grow. Wonder what it will be today, own goals, sending offs or yet more blatantly wrong refs decision, seems to be that way, but having said all that we are tata.
Have a nice weekend.
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0-0 didn't or couldn't take the chance to win depending on your viewpoint.
Good news we managed to keep 11 on the pitch and no own goals, grateful for small mercies.
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Big up yourself Kev!
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Big up yourself Kev!
After yet another own goal.
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Big up yourself Kev!
After yet another own goal.
I forget...
It would be easier if you didn't score on yourselves.
:banginghead:
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Big up yourself Kev!
After yet another own goal.
I forget...
It would be easier if you didn't score on yourselves.
:banginghead:
Last time I remember scoring so many own goals was in the 15 point season, 3 in one game so seen it before lets hope with a different result this time, but its only hope rather than expectation.
Norwich at home today @ 3.00 really need 3 points to get somewhere near the ones above, also to help persuade the owner its worthwhile investing in January just have to wait and see how it pans out.
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A very boring 0-0 that does nothing for us really and a player sent off in the last minute.
On a brighter note I want to wish everyone and their families a very happy christmas and hope Santa is good to all of you.
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A very boring 0-0 that does nothing for us really and a player sent off in the last minute.
On a brighter note I want to wish everyone and their families a very happy christmas and hope Santa is good to all of you.
Same to you and yours! :beermug:
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Everton away today @ 3.00, we always seem to struggle with Everton who are doing very well atm, so no real expectation. Hope everyone had a nice Christmas.
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Merry Christmas Kev... hopefully your team delivers a Boxing Day present to supporters (and LFC fans :D )
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Merry Christmas Kev... hopefully your team delivers a Boxing Day present to supporters (and LFC fans :D )
Ask and ye shall receive ;)
Well 1-0, penalty and keeper sent off (rightly) strange its usually us playing with 10 men. Looked the other way around 2nd half and rode our luck a bit, again a change as we haven't exactly had the rub of the green so far this season. A late present and very grateful for it.
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Merry Christmas Kev... hopefully your team delivers a Boxing Day present to supporters (and LFC fans :D )
Ask and ye shall receive ;)
Well 1-0, penalty and keeper sent off (rightly) strange its usually us playing with 10 men. Looked the other way around 2nd half and rode our luck a bit, again a change as we haven't exactly had the rub of the green so far this season. A late present and very grateful for it.
Still a ways to go to get off the bottom, but this is a start :beermug:
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Cardiff away today @ 5.30. Cardiff sacked their manager yesterday, another club who seems to have found itself in foreign ownership that doesn't give a stuff or a lot of thought. Anything out of Everton was a bonus, today is a chance to build on it or waste it I wish I could predict which way but haven't a clue. 3 points would put us right back in the mix and make up for only drawing with Norwich.
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Cardiff away today @ 5.30. Cardiff sacked their manager yesterday, another club who seems to have found itself in foreign ownership that doesn't give a stuff or a lot of thought. Anything out of Everton was a bonus, today is a chance to build on it or waste it I wish I could predict which way but haven't a clue. 3 points would put us right back in the mix and make up for only drawing with Norwich.
Wow, did they? Probably better for Mackay. Not really fair to the fans, but I hope they get relegated.
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Football is the strangest game a 2-2 draw that never looked on the cards and a point that we didn't deserve at all, we were woeful. Another 1st the Cardiff owner Booing at the end along with the fans, I don't think he realised most of them were booing at him, it takes all sorts.
I would like to wish you all a Happy New Year and a wonderful and healthy 2014, as usual be good (although I suspect too much rum will be consumed), if you can't be good, be careful and if you can do neither, don't get caught. :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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Sunderland on network TV (in the U.S) and during prime sports-time on Saturday morning! The background stories with Cardiff owner and former manager was as interesting as the game. The last minute comeback seemed fair. The team is definitely on the rebound. How come Altidore is not scoring? What luck and tenacity against Everton earlier in the week!
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How come Altidore is not scoring?
Don't know of it's a lack of confidence or lack of Premier League quality, but Altidore looking terrible.
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How come Altidore is not scoring?
Don't know of it's a lack of confidence or lack of Premier League quality, but Altidore looking terrible.
He playing in a real league. Goals don't come easy in henglad footie.
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How come Altidore is not scoring?
Don't know of it's a lack of confidence or lack of Premier League quality, but Altidore looking terrible.
I think its a bit of both imho, he is not only not scoring he is now not holding up the ball, hitting players with simple passes (same as some of the team) but seems more interested in falling over and whinging to the ref about possible "soft fouls" you can see his head go down when it happens. Personally think he needs to be taken out for a while but haven't got the numbers.
Villa at home today @ 3.00 a chance to get out of the bottom 3 if results go our way, will we take it - your guess is as good as mine and I suspect Poyet feels the same way. We have signed Alonso (Fullback used to be at Bolton) on loan.
If your squinting can't read this, your head feeling like someone is tapping it with a hammer and a bit queasy you had too much last night, if your still pissed fair play to you. (Oh for youth again). Hope everyone had a good one.
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Beaten 1-0 might of well as been another OG after a Cattermole mistake, if that wasn't enough he tried his best to gift them another couple, didn't come out for the 2nd half. Performance was better as much as I said we didn't deserve anything out of Cardiff, we didn't deserve to get beat in this one. Had a goal disallowed for offside a very close decision and wouldn't of been surprised if it had been allowed after seeing the replay, but in our position you just don't get them.
A special mention to the ref who was hopeless today, lost control and made some strange decision, booked Gia for diving when obviously caught as the Villa player actually limped after the challenge, KI got elbowed (one of those you could look at either deliberate or accidental) but then booked Ki for complaining, Colback then got completely cleaned out (no foul) and then proceeded to push the player (by rules should of been sent off) he booked both. We have had some poor obvious decisions go against us this season, but he was particularly poor today throughout the match.
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Away to Fulham today @ 3.00, could do with 3 points but as usual haven't a clue which team will turn up. Really need to get a couple of results against teams in the bottom half. We are supposed to be signing the Argentinian CB Vergini, I haven't a clue what he is like but no doubt some on here will watch South American leagues.
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4-1 today, so have given ourselves a lifeline, whether we will take it is a totally different matter. For me it will depend on new players coming in.
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Southampton at home today 12.45 KO. An opportunity to build on last week, will they take it though or will they have an eye on Wednesday. I wish I knew but with this team its the old Forest Gump joke about chocolates.
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Got away with it again, very similar to Cardiff game, no surprises really.
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Stoke at home tonight KO 7.45, its usually preferable to stick hot pins in your eyes than watch this match. We are owed for this fixture for the ridiculous Brown sending off. Still haven't a clue what will happen, we are also supposed to be signing Scocco (sp?) from Brazil.
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Not a great performance but a 1-0 win is 3 much needed points. Stoke had a man sent off for 2nd bookable offence, easy decision for the ref although Hughes disagrees.
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Away to Newcastle today @ 12.45, deep breaths and blood and thunder time. Not a clue what will happen. We signed Bridcutt from Brighton who Poyet brought through there and Scocco from Brazil. Have we done enough in Jan, I don't honestly know but suspect we needed more.
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3-0 Out of bottom 3 played really well, can't ask for much more :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Adam Johnson playing like a brand new man.
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They did play pretty well today. Apparently they are inspired by the rivalry games.
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Newcastle were abject.
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Adam Johnson playing like a brand new man.
:beermug:
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Sunderland's confident style is pleasing on the eye, says Dwight Yorke
By Dwight Yorke (Sky Sports)
Sunderland's Tyne-Wear derby win shows the turnaround in confidence Gus Poyet has installed, says Dwight Yorke.
Sunderland won their third derby victory on the trot in what was their successive 3-0 victory at St James' Park, to put them up to 14th in the Premier League before Sunday's fixtures - their highest position in the table all season.
Former Black Cats striker Dwight Yorke joined SNF Match Choice to analyse the game and told host Sarah-Jane Mee how impressed he's been with the confidence Gus Poyet has Sunderland playing with.
Yorke said: "I'm dead chuffed for Gus because I know him personally and he's done a remarkable job. I also have a relationship after playing with that football club for three years.
"It's great to see that turnaround and see the confidence that Sunderland are playing with. The players seem to buy in to what Gus is doing and it's made a big change.
"The fact that they have turned United over and got to the Capital One Cup final means there's a huge bit of confidence flying around there and more than anything else this 3-0 result against Newcastle - which I didn't see coming - goes to show the kind of confidence the players are playing with under Gus Poyet."
Experience
Saturday's win makes it three on bounce in the Premier League for the North East club and Adam Johnson, scorer of the second goal, made it nine in all competitions for the season; Yorke says it's great to see the former Man City winger playing so well.
He said: "There's always been a lot expected of Adam Johnson because he came with a big price tag and under Di Canio didn't seem to have done it, but under Gus Poyet it's like he's found his confidence, he's scoring, he's playing freely at the moment."
Defence
Yorke also highlighted his former Manchester United team mates Wes Brown and John O'Shea and the impact they've made with their defensive stability for the rest of the side to build on.
"We talk about their goal scoring opportunities and how they're playing nice football at the moment and scoring goals but the defensive pairing of Wes Brown and John O'Shea - both of them have been fantastic - they're two very experienced players and good friends off the pitch as well, which I think helps and you can throw Phil Bardsley in there as well, a sort of combination of Man United.
"In the last six games they've played they've managed to keep four clean sheets and as much as the goal scorers get the credit I think the defenders deserve it. It's something that had not been happening under Paulo Di Canio but is under Gus Poyet. It's pleasing on the eye as well."
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Hull at home today @ 3.00, this sees the return of the much loved (on here anyway) Mr Bruce. Don't know whats going to happen, past caring really as long as we get 3 points.
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Newcastle were abject.
Weren't that good.
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Old habits die hard, Brown sent off after 2/3 minutes after a mistake by Bardsley. 0-2 with some bad fixtures and a Cup Final coming up not great news, ah well onward.
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Well after last nights games back in the bottom 3, with Man City away tonight, then Arsenal and Liverpool, not a lot of expectation with those then. ;D
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City v Sunderland postponed due to weather conditions.
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Away to Arsenal today @ 3.00. Not a lot of expectation tbh, don't know what teams will turn up. How tired Arsenal are from their midweek exploits and how we are going to turn up/out with the cup final against City next week. It could be messy today.
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Well got the answer, the one I was expecting the only surprise was it wasn't more messy than the 4-1. More down to Arsenal than us it has to be said.
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Well no prem game for us this weekend and a trip to Wembley. A mixture of excitement and apprehension, don't know what to expect really, hope we win, suspect we might not, scared it could get very messy. Just have to wait and see and enjoy the occasion.
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In the U.S the game is on BeIn Sports. Some of us are not lucky enough to be taking part in carnival. Anyway, …. game time 5:55 am PST (8:55 EST).
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Sunderland played well. Borini is certainly a good addition. It took two fantastic goals to knock the wind out of Sunderland sails.
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It was a decent game although the keepers weren't that busy tbh, it had 3 wonderfully finished goals and could of gone either way upto the end. The 3rd was when pushing forward. At least we turned up, didn't get messy and had a decent day. We are not playing in the prem next week as we play Hull in the QF of FA Cup, maybe we might just be able to keep 11 men on the pitch who knows, 3rd time the charm.
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Hard luck dey Kev.
2 3 - 0!.
Allyuh have to check them defenders bank account. Half-ass tackles, suicide back passes... :thinking:
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Hard luck dey Kev.
2 3 - 0!.
Allyuh have to check them defenders bank account. Half-ass tackles, suicide back passes... :thinking:
Thanks Bitter, but Poyet had been warning about the changes he was going to make, how big the game next weekend is etc. So to be honest it was expected, but it showed yet again how poor we are at defending and gifted them 3 goals. Its a regular theme this season gifting goals, players sent off, own goals, players not trying and poor ref decisions. I thought he was poor yesterday, let a few dives off, gave fouls he shouldn't of give and I haven't a clue why Scocco was booked for trying to block the ball, Cattermole booking was given by the hull players.
It isn't like Hull were hard to beat but they have beaten us 3 times this season and been tata, 2 players sent off, 1 player sent off after a couple of minutes and a missed penalty with 3 mistakes, I don't know what you are inferring but he did sign 3 of those players and gave them good contracts. ;)
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Palace at home 3.00 KO today.
If we lose today then looking at the rest of the fixtures we have left you would have to say we are gone or at the least the fat lass is warming her voice up. I wish I could say with some confidence we won't lose but I can't, a draw isn't much good either. Just a wait and see what happens.
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0-0 draw not a lot of use just like the players really.
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Away to Norwich today KO 3.00. Looking at the remaining away fixtures you would have to say this will be our last opportunity to get points away from home, I know football doesn't always work out but we can't rely on points from elsewhere. As usual what turns up is anyones guess. Have a nice weekend.
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Dire 2-0. Joke of a 1st goal, poor defending for the 2nd again - But what a cracking goal by the lad. Player sent off last minute again, old habits die hard ;D
Not looking forward to Wednesday
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Well Liverpool away tonight who are scoring for fun and playing very well at the minute. It could get a tad embarrassing with our woeful defenders, but as we all know football is a funny old game as they say. See how it plays out, I think I know the likely outcome.
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Well Liverpool away tonight who are scoring for fun and playing very well at the minute. It could get a tad embarrassing with our woeful defenders, but as we all know football is a funny old game as they say. See how it plays out, I think I know the likely outcome.
Let's hope you continue your abject form, Sunderland is one of those mid-table teams (along with Stoke and West Brom) who always give us fits for some reason. Seems we finally got those other two monkeys off our backs this season.
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Well Liverpool away tonight who are scoring for fun and playing very well at the minute. It could get a tad embarrassing with our woeful defenders, but as we all know football is a funny old game as they say. See how it plays out, I think I know the likely outcome.
Let's hope you continue your abject form, Sunderland is one of those mid-table teams (along with Stoke and West Brom) who always give us fits for some reason. Seems we finally got those other two monkeys off our backs this season.
I wish.
Well nobody would of came up with that line up in the sweep. Got off better than thought, very poor defending again.
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I wish.
Well nobody would of came up with that line up in the sweep. Got off better than thought, very poor defending again.
Liverpool made it much closer than it needed to be. Poor finishing by Suarez and Sturridge along with greediness on both their parts... Suarez in particular went for goal when he could have set up Sturridge for a back post tap-in. The late concession was disappointing, but overall a good performance for us. Sunderland acquitted themselves well considering the place and opposition. I'm hoping that you guys and Fulham don't get relegated, would much rather see WBA go... but that's up to you guys.
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2-1 off West Ham, that fat lass has put her warm up act on now. Same old same old really.
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Tough luck kev... sorry that your squad has led you and the other supporters down. Barring a near miracle, looks like they'l be going down this year.
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The team started losing steam and, instead of persisting until they picked up again, Gus started chopping and changing and being weird.
Unless their form is absolutely abysmal, there's no excuse for ever keeping Ki and Johnson on the subs bench. Those two and Borini are the only non-laborers available.
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Tough luck kev... sorry that your squad has led you and the other supporters down. Barring a near miracle, looks like they'l be going down this year.
No real shock tbh. The weekend results make it even more probable.
Spurs away tonight so we will see.
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Summed up the season really, there's not a lot can be said that hasn't been said before
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Everton at home today, thats OK we always get something out of Everton ;)
Everything this week seems to about acceptance of our fate, but truth be told I think that happened a good few weeks ago within the club.
Hope everybody has a nice weekend.
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It would be easier if you didn't score on yourselves.
:banginghead:
You were saying ;D
1-0 and yes another own goal what can you say.
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2 games in hand. Keep the faith, Kev :beermug:
From a neutral point of view, it's a fascinating relegation battle. I don't think Villa are safe, so everyone from 14th to 20th is at risk
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2 games in hand. Keep the faith, Kev :beermug:
From a neutral point of view, it's a fascinating relegation battle. I don't think Villa are safe, so everyone from 14th to 20th is at risk
Love the optimism our 3 games in hand were / are Liverpool (gone), Man City (wed) and Chelsea all away. I will be astounded if we get anything, as you have no doubt perceived I have been resigned to our fate a long time, I think this is the 7th/8th time around lost count now.
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Man City tonight, nice easy game then 3 points no bother ;D
It could be a little messy.
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Crazy game thats football, gifted them a goal after 2 minutes and at the end (should of been handball imho), but been doing that all season. Inbetween missed easy chances to get goals. A below par City really and worrying for them poor at the back. Another esay game at the weekend, Chelsea.
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as a chelsea fan I would like to sincerely thank you and your team for d assistance with City, saturday will be interesting given chelsea's inconsistent play over d past weeks......d bridge though is a fortress....somehow dem fellas will look like crap on the road but come to the bridge and tear all comers apart.....will wish yuh best of luck.....though grudgingly :beermug:
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Chelsea tonight 5.30, we will just have to wait and see what happens because I haven't a clue tbh.
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Chelsea tonight 5.30, we will just have to wait and see what happens because I haven't a clue tbh.
Chelsea dropping points would do nicely... :beermug: :praying:
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Talk about a glorious Saturday! ;D
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Crazy game it surely is, you would of got very long odds for us to get 4 points from the last 2 games and if anybody had of told me that I would of said keep taking the tablets. I accepted our fate a long time ago, I am not changing that now.
We rode our luck a bit, the penalty will be argued about but it was one of those that sometimes you get sometimes not and can understand why it was given. The elbow was blatant by Ramires and Chelsea should of been down to 10 men in the 1st half, it was right in front of the ref so either he didn't see it or didn't do anything about it we will find out in due course. Broke Chelsea record to add insult to injury, I love football.
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Happy for you kev.
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Crazy game it surely is, you would of got very long odds for us to get 4 points from the last 2 games and if anybody had of told me that I would of said keep taking the tablets. I accepted our fate a long time ago, I am not changing that now.
We rode our luck a bit, the penalty will be argued about but it was one of those that sometimes you get sometimes not and can understand why it was given. The elbow was blatant by Ramires and Chelsea should of been down to 10 men in the 1st half, it was right in front of the ref so either he didn't see it or didn't do anything about it we will find out in due course. Broke Chelsea record to add insult to injury, I love football.
Not quite atonement yet, but those 4 points are helping make up for Beachball gate ;D
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Crazy game it surely is, you would of got very long odds for us to get 4 points from the last 2 games and if anybody had of told me that I would of said keep taking the tablets. I accepted our fate a long time ago, I am not changing that now.
We rode our luck a bit, the penalty will be argued about but it was one of those that sometimes you get sometimes not and can understand why it was given. The elbow was blatant by Ramires and Chelsea should of been down to 10 men in the 1st half, it was right in front of the ref so either he didn't see it or didn't do anything about it we will find out in due course. Broke Chelsea record to add insult to injury, I love football.
Not quite atonement yet, but those 4 points are helping make up for Beachball gate ;D
I think you've had enough atonement off referees the last 3 games to see you through 10 reincarnations ;)
Cardiff today, whoever loses is gone imho, a draw not good enough for either so just wait and see. 12.00 KO
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;D :beermug: Out of the relegation zone!
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I think you've had enough atonement off referees the last 3 games to see you through 10 reincarnations ;)
Cardiff today, whoever loses is gone imho, a draw not good enough for either so just wait and see. 12.00 KO
Really? Do tell... the ref has won us games?
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I think you've had enough atonement off referees the last 3 games to see you through 10 reincarnations ;)
Cardiff today, whoever loses is gone imho, a draw not good enough for either so just wait and see. 12.00 KO
Really? Do tell... the ref has won us games?
No ground bait required, 2 or 3 definite penalties last few games against you not given? Sensitive or what?
Well its in our hands, still not believing ;D the bastards.
Think that probably puts pay to Cardiff.
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No ground bait required, 2 or 3 definite penalties last few games against you not given? Sensitive or what?
Well its in our hands, still not believing ;D the bastards.
Think that probably puts pay to Cardiff.
Sensitive about what... look at where LFC is and where Sunderland is? It just seemed a gratuitous (and inaccurate) shot, but if that's how you feel then good for you. Your team is a Championship squad at best... you'd better pray that's not where you'll be traveling to away games next season.
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Manu away today @ 3.00 the easy games just keep on coming ;) again not a clue.
Bakes it was a throw away comment like and in response to the beachball comment, I'll spell it out for you I was taking the piss, ground bait equals fishing, fishing is awaiting a bite which you did and now again, but it wasn't inaccurate, handball and foul both absolute stone wall penalties. I know fine well what our squad is and have said it often enough and have expected to play in the championship next season for a good while now I have seen enough relegations 6 / 7 or so its no biggie. To borrow a scouse phrase Calm Down, Calm Down FFS.
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Manu away today @ 3.00 the easy games just keep on coming ;) again not a clue.
Bakes it was a throw away comment like and in response to the beachball comment, I'll spell it out for you I was taking the piss, ground bait equals fishing, fishing is awaiting a bite which you did and now again, but it wasn't inaccurate, handball and foul both absolute stone wall penalties. I know fine well what our squad is and have said it often enough and have expected to play in the championship next season for a good while now I have seen enough relegations 6 / 7 or so its no biggie. To borrow a scouse phrase Calm Down, Calm Down FFS.
Let me spell it out for you... since your obviously struggling with reality. Skrtel did not handle the ball since it was clearly in the act of him jumping to head the ball... natural movement of the arm. That's without even mentioning that his head was turned and eyes closed (negates the "intent" factor) and he was being shoved in the back while in the air. Stone wall my ass... must be the same stone wall against which you're "taking the piss". To borrow a phrase from Wearside... oh that's right, no one gives a f**k about Wearside.
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Just to help settle the argument, FA rules say teh following about handball;
Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with
the ball with his hand or arm. The referee must take the following into
consideration:
• the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
• the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
• the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an
infringement
• touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.)
counts as an infringement
• hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) counts as an
infringement
Rules on fouling are here; http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct.aspx
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Quite a comfortable 3 points, what can you say.
Manu away today @ 3.00 the easy games just keep on coming ;) again not a clue.
Bakes it was a throw away comment like and in response to the beachball comment, I'll spell it out for you I was taking the piss, ground bait equals fishing, fishing is awaiting a bite which you did and now again, but it wasn't inaccurate, handball and foul both absolute stone wall penalties. I know fine well what our squad is and have said it often enough and have expected to play in the championship next season for a good while now I have seen enough relegations 6 / 7 or so its no biggie. To borrow a scouse phrase Calm Down, Calm Down FFS.
Let me spell it out for you... since your obviously struggling with reality. Skrtel did not handle the ball since it was clearly in the act of him jumping to head the ball... natural movement of the arm. That's without even mentioning that his head was turned and eyes closed (negates the "intent" factor) and he was being shoved in the back while in the air. Stone wall my ass... must be the same stone wall against which you're "taking the piss". To borrow a phrase from Wearside... oh that's right, no one gives a f**k about Wearside.
Bakes I am not going to bother responding after this because you are either blind or daft, he punched the ball over a couple of his players the fact he refused to comment speaks volumes its here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47hsFzqBsOU
I don't give a f**k about Wearside, its nearly as big as shit tip as Liverpool, btw for reference I'm actually classed as a Geordie as I am from the Heed. If you have a spare few bob go and buy a sense of humour FFS, because you need to.
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congrats kev!
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congrats kev!
Thank you
West Brom tonight @ 7.30 and given the goal difference we need a point to survive if Norwich win at Arsenal (nothing to play for and the Cup Final next week). I still don't know what is going to happen and certainly not counting any chickens given what an insane season this has been for results.
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Poyet or Pulis for Coach of the year.
Amazing escape.
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Well 2-0 and safe, never ever in doubt :bs:
I've seen it but still don't believe it, the team has had the stench of relegation all season, can't score, can't defend and couldn't beat teams around them, the last 3 weeks have just been mad.
Onto next season, lots of players out of contract and going, all doesn't seem 100% between Poyet and the club and an owner who has stopped investing an "interesting" close season coming up again I feel.
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Well last day and a nothing game against Swansea, a couple of weeks ago I thought today would of been a nothing game but for a very different reason as we would of been gone by gone. Mad season, just place money to play for a couple of million. Should of picked a team thats a bit easier on the ticker.
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Normal service resumed 1-3, didn't turn up ;D
Hopefully most will be gone next season, hope you all have a nice summer.
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You live in interesting times Kev.
From bottom of the championship to promotion in 2007, and now this great escape. Enjoy the summer.
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You live in interesting times Kev.
From bottom of the championship to promotion in 2007, and now this great escape. Enjoy the summer.
Still can't believe it tbh, paper did a poll and 90% of fans thought we were dead and buried.
On to this season and like last season we haven't done enough in the transfer window although there is still 2 weeks left. Last year teh pundits had us for the drop this year most haven't, I can't see why myself. ;D
West Brom today at 3 not a clue, just hope we get off to a decent start, but its hope rather than expectation.
I hope everyone has had a good few months off.
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2-2 draw with both teams huffing and puffing really. Gaps are there to be seen, a penalty that was very soft, if going to give penalties for that then there are going to be an awful lot of them. TBF it was evened out by an equally soft decision to disallow a WB goal. 2 weeks left to get some in and its needed badly.
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Manu today at 4, no additions to the players over the last week, I haven't a clue as to what is going to happen, who how they will play so just have to hope everything is OK.
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Well 1-1 draw and a match really like last week. Manu are all over the place at the back, its just aswell how the fixture list has worked out for them.
We desperately need some players but they are likely only to be loans (if at all), needs some pace and tempo or I will be falling asleep again.
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QPR away today, no new faces, no clue.
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Beaten 1 - 0 nothing between the teams really, same old same old. I thought the ref was poor today in both directions.
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Spurs at home today @ 3.00. 2 new faces in the last day Coates from Liverpool and Alvarez from Inter, the latter will need time to adjust the from the highlights I've seen. No real expectation for today tbh.
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A good away point, oops but we were at home, think it says what the game was like.
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Burnley away today, neither team has won yet, maybe today is the day, can't say which one it would be though and thats the problem.
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Well no surprises a bore draw from 2 poor teams really.
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Swansea at home today, still looking for our 1st win, will it be today?
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Another 0-0 still no win, however a couple of changes and a bit better performance (wouldn't be hard).
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Stoke at home today, still haven't a clue whats going to happen.
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Well our first win last time out, normally a game between these two it is a toss up between watching the match or putting hot needles in your eyes, this was a decent game to watch tbf.
Southampton away today who are doing very well especially considering how many players were sold over the summer. Haven't a clue but expectation isn't that high given how each team has been playing for the most part.
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Cannot believe the present score Southampton 6 - 0 Sunderland .
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Cannot believe the present score Southampton 6 - 0 Sunderland .
8
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Shit team.
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Watched it, after the first 10 mins which they dominated, Sunderland was awful. I feel embarrassed for the fans, but credit to those who stayed and sung their heart out until the last minute :beermug:
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match fixing..check the lead up to the first own goal...them men ent serious
http://hoofoot.com/?match=Southampton_8_-_0_Sunderland_AFC_2014_10_18
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8 mucking 0, EIGHT FFS ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
2 OG's 3 gifts and it looked OK for the 1st 10 minutes. You have to laugh.
match fixing..check the lead up to the first own goal...them men ent serious
http://hoofoot.com/?match=Southampton_8_-_0_Sunderland_AFC_2014_10_18
You haven't seen much of them then, because that kind of play has been par for the course the last 2 seasons. However the great news is we have extended O'Sheas contract for another 2 years, which again is par for the course as a zimmerframe has more mobility. Arsenal next week and a week of BS to put up from the usual suspects.
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Sunderland fans to receive refund for 8-0 defeat at Southampton
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29681235
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Check their bank accounts and under their mattresses.
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Arsenal at home today 3.00 KO. Should be an interesting start, how they react if at all and again I am clueless which way they will go. Arsenal aren't firing on all cylinders at the minute so we are the ideal team to put that right for them ;D I am not so sure we will finish with 11 on the pitch either.
The final goal last week has now been given an a OG, so thats 3 OG's the last time we did that (yes we have been here before) we set a then record low points tally and it wasn't a good season, we won't be doing that this season.
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Check their bank accounts and under their mattresses.
You were saying.
2-0 no real surprise but the goals were more of a farce than last week, if thats possible.
In reality a poor game and a bit of a training session for Arsenal, onwards and upwards or downwards whatever the case may be.
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Palace away tonight, need to take some points off them really but again more hope than expectation, Christ the last few seasons have been a grind.
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A 3-1 win and a welcome much needed 3 points given the next few fixtures.
The game was OK given the reality is it was 2 poor teams. We got away with a stonewall penalty in the 1st minute, how only the ref knows.
Nice to see we are continuing to lead in the OG stakes and look like retaining that accolade easily this season. Go OG ;D
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1-1 draw with Everton, a bit of a surprise because we don't usually get anything off them, thats 2 seasons in a row. They scored with a penalty that didn't look like one live, but stonewall when seen on TV. The ref got dogs sbuse for a couple of "wrong decisions" off the crowd but no doubt feeling rather smug with himself on watching replays. 2 weeks off again.
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Leicester away today@ 3.00. They are doing OK so expect a tight game which way it goes is anybodies guess, it will depend who turns up or not as the case maybe.
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0-0 we had better of the game for a good while, so did they for parts. In the end 2 similar teams that struggle to score and an iffy defence, next 3 matches are tough for us so a welcome point.
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Nice easy game today Chelski at home 5.30.
No problem ;) ;)
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Good game ;D
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Good game ;D
Aye it was, disgraceful we dropped points against a team like Chelski. ;)
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Another easy game tonight Man City at home, easy peasey ;)
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WE were robbed, honest your honour ;D
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Liverpool away today, 3rd time the charm :)
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Another 2 points dropped, when will we learn. ::)
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West Ham at home today, who are doing very well at the minute so we'll see what happens.
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A fairly even game nothing really between the teams finishing 1-1, we got a very soft penalty which I would be very unhappy with if it was given against us, but denied an obvious one for handball so suppose it evened itself out.
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The big big one today, Newcastle away @ 1.30. Not sure what to expect really, its usually all blood and thunder but not much of that the last few times so we will have to wait and see.
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Sucker Punch
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Sucker Punch
Thought it was an even game, back to blood and thunder and kick and rush a bit. Strange Newcastle had the pressure but not really many clear cut chances, we missed 2 sitters and hit the bar as well as the goal but only fleeting pressure. Football is a strange game which is why we all love it, I also thought the ref did well could of easily sent a few players off for 2nd bookable offences but seemed to clam down after a bit, still amazed it finished with everybody on the pitch.
I hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas and you and your families enjoy and look after yourselves and each other.
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Hope everyone had a nice Christmas.
Hull at home today, see if we can manage to keep 11 on the pitch this time (make a change ;D ), not a clue what's going to happen tbh.
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An insipid performance to say the least.
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Villa away at 3.00 today, god knows what will happen.
Hope everyone has a great News Years Eve, as usual be good, if you can't be good be careful and if you can do neither remember don't get caught.
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0 - 0 Draw not unexpected given both teams find it hard to score in a brothel. Did play against 10 men for the vast majority of the 2nd half and never really noticed. It was a little soft but some refs would give a red some yellow, I would be upset if it had of been given against us but can understand how it was seen as a red.
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Nice easy start to the New Year Man City away, no problem ;)
When everybody sobers up, wish you and your family a great 2015
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Beaten 3 - 2, 1st half training exercise attack against defence, 2nd once scored opened up into a decent game 5 goals in about a quarter an hour could of been another 5 quite easily.
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Liverpool at home today the early match @ 12.45, a draw would be OK and I expect to set up as we do away, but there isn't a lot of difference anyway.
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familiar territory ;D
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familiar territory ;D
If only I was surprised :D
Strange game a dire 1st half from us (thats saying something considering how poor we have been), better 2nd despite playing it with 10 men (maybe it helped). Have to see the replays but for me I was struggling to see why Bridcutt was booked at all never mind twice.
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The first one on Gerrard was a foul, the second on Can was arguable. Neither should have been carded, but it's all academic since Ouverpool were denied a stonewall penalty when Brown tripped Markovic in the box.
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The first one on Gerrard was a foul, the second on Can was arguable. Neither should have been carded, but it's all academic since Ouverpool were denied a stonewall penalty when Brown tripped Markovic in the box.
The 1st was a foul, but bookable I doubt it the 2nd wasn't even a foul if he is booking for that then welcome to 3 a side. Yes it was a stonewall penalty.
Spurs today away @ 3, we got away with it massively when we played them at home, hope for similar luck today. We have signed Defoe and sent Altidore (or Antiscore as some wags have dubbed him) the other way.
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Beaten 2-1 with the winner coming in the last 5 minutes or so, but a fair result in the end. We played for a while with more purpose going forward so theres always hope.
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Burnley at home today @ 3.00, its an important match which way it will go I haven't a clue. The natives are becoming a little restless so it could get a little interesting if it goes the wrong way.
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2-0 win, fairly comfortable really but not a lot between them keepers didn't have to work much. The 2nd goal was a little offside but one of those where the decision could of went either way in real time, so not really a big mistake by the linesman.
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Swansea away today @ 3.00, I wish I knew which way it was going to go. Poyet has finally realised you have to score the odd goal now and again which means you need to be in the opposition half. How long taht will last depends on his bottle, because the defence ain't great.
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1-1 draw didn't create a lot, but on the wrong side of a stonewall penalty decision this week.
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QPR at home tonight 7.45 KO.
A win tonight would give a nice little gap at the bottom, so here's hoping.
QPR haven't got a point away from home this season and have a few players missing due to injuries, so it should be plain sailing. Nailed on QPR win then ;D
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Woeful 1st half slightly better 2nd.
0-2 no surprise there then ::)
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Time for Sunderland to go down this season... 2 points above the zone. Every year they seem to be hovering around there with uninspiring football...
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Time for Sunderland to go down this season... 2 points above the zone. Every year they seem to be hovering around there with uninspiring football...
I wish it was that good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well West Brom at home today KO 3.00
As usual not a clue because not sure what will turn up.
Poyet looks like he is coming to the end, the natives are very restless, he's used everybody as an excuse and even blamed the press for misquoting him. There was a chant last week at Bradford "Its always our fault" from the away fans, which prompted an open letter to us on the club website. If the game / result goes the wrong way today it could get a tad interesting, either way it won't last long now.
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0-0 Draw were were a bit more direct, a bit better but still nowhere near enough.
We did score a "good goal" but it was ruled offside wrongly, however it was one of those that you can understand why the linesman got it wrong, so fair enough sometimes it goes you way sometimes not.
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Piece of Piss today, Manu away @ 3.00, no problem with our flowing high tempo attacking football and line up it will be lambs to the slaughter.
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Sunder playing a good defensive and counter game. Cat and mouse basically.
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Strange game, first 20 minutes or so looked OK breaking, Manu looked all the over the place at the back (as they have done), then just got further back again and just didn't compete. Same old same old.
Officials have been poor particularly this year and it is becoming an issue generally. The ref sent off Brown for a foul, which everybody just thought was mistaken identity as both players were close together and should of sent off O'Shea. They are now saying it wasn't and Brown was sent off rightly. It was a penalty, it was a red card and I can even understand from the refs angle how he could think it was Brown (being very generous), I cant understand how they can say Brown was a red card though.
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Hull away tonight and need the points, whether we get any is a different matter.
On a shadier note Johnson has been bailed while the police investigate having sex with an under age girl (15), he has obviously been suspended by the club while it is ongoing. There aren't any further details for obvious reasons, whatever the circumstances I still can't for the life of me understand why footballers get themselves in such situations. Especially given the fact Johnson isn't a kid himself (27).
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1-1 Draw with Hull, Poyet put out an awful team set up, got away with it.
Villa today at home another big game at the bottom, really need 3 points and just as important to not give Villa any. Anybodys guess whats going to happen.
Sjows where my head is try next week instead :clown: (looked for a dum dum smiley but couldn't see one)
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Stadium of bLight...
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Shouldn't of turned up last week instead, it would of been more entertaining. ;D
Nowt you can say really that hasn't been said before, natives extremely restless.
Stadium of bLight...
You just cannot resist can you, got under your skin have I, like a little bairn you can't wait to turn up and rub it in, point and shout HA HA an extremely myopic dumbed down version of Nelson off the Simpson's, you really are a prize dick aren't you!
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You just cannot resist can you, got under your skin have I, like a little bairn you can't wait to turn up and rub it in, point and shout HA HA an extremely myopic dumbed down version of Nelson off the Simpson's, you really are a prize dick aren't you!
Don't flatter yourself, you're really not that important. Your side has been shit all season, but this performance is just about the worst in 5 years, hence me posting about the game. But if you'd rather think my comments are about you then feel free.
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Shouldn't of turned up last week instead, it would of been more entertaining. ;D
Nowt you can say really that hasn't been said before, natives extremely restless.
What the hell happened this weekend? Were Villa that good, Sunderland that bad or both?
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Listened to Poyet's post-match comments and thought he was being optimistic regarding his future at the club.
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Shouldn't of turned up last week instead, it would of been more entertaining. ;D
Nowt you can say really that hasn't been said before, natives extremely restless.
What the hell happened this weekend? Were Villa that good, Sunderland that bad or both?
We were bad, a 5 year old team could score against us.
Listened to Poyet's post-match comments and thought he was being optimistic regarding his future at the club.
What future, gone should of went a while ago.You just cannot resist can you, got under your skin have I, like a little bairn you can't wait to turn up and rub it in, point and shout HA HA an extremely myopic dumbed down version of Nelson off the Simpson's, you really are a prize dick aren't you!
Don't flatter yourself, you're really not that important. Your side has been shit all season, but this performance is just about the worst in 5 years, hence me posting about the game. But if you'd rather think my comments are about you then feel free.
For the most part bar a couple of seasons my team have been shite for the 30 odd years I have supported them.
The comments are about you, your a snide on I'll ignore you completely.
West Ham today @ 5.30 with Dick Advocatt in charge, regarded as a bit of a disciplinarian he should have fun, at least his name is like a drink so will have something in common with a few of the players. As usual not a clue, I suspect he will shut up shop after last week, the defence only works when there is 9 of them.
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Look at the date, Kev. Most figured he was gone, but his public comments projected that he could right the ship. Include me amongst those who thought he was being optimistic. Despite perhaps a measure of posturing, one got the sense that Poyet legitimately felt he could reverse the rot. Indeed, his subsequent comments seem to confirm that.
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Gus Poyet Statement
"Certainly I am very disappointed to have left Sunderland but I am extremely honoured to have served this special club as their manager.
"When I arrived in October 2013, Sunderland had played 7 matches and lost 6, gaining only 1 point and they were bottom of the Barclays Premier League.
"31 matches later, at the end of the season, we had won 10 and drawn 8, taking us to the complete safety of 14th position.
"I will always remember fondly that miracle unbeaten run, a vein of form for which I was honoured to be shortlisted for the Barclays Premier League Manager of the Year Award.
"I leave Sunderland feeling proud of all of our achievements during my tenure, not least reaching the club’s first cup final in 22 years when we took more than 30,000 fans to the Capital One Cup Final at Wembley. Of the three Tyne-Wear derby matches since I joined the club as manager, I am very proud that we were able to win all three, two of which were away from home.
"I will never forget winning at Old Trafford last May, Sunderland’s first league victory there since 1968, which came shortly after beating Chelsea at Stamford Bridge.
"This season, Sunderland remains the only team not to have conceded to Chelsea and the club has remained outside of the bottom three throughout.
"I would like to take this opportunity to thank Chairman Ellis Short for giving me my first opportunity to manage in the Barclays Premier League, without a doubt the greatest league in the world.
"I also thank my staff for their valuable assistance, the players for all their efforts and, in particular, the fans who demonstrate such unbelievable passion for the club.
"I sincerely wish everyone connected with Sunderland the very best for the remainder of the season and beyond."
Gus Poyet: Overall Managerial Record
BRIGHTON & HOVE ALBION 10 Nov 2009 – 24 June 2013
P W D L %Win
194 86 59 49 44.3
SUNDERLAND 8 Oct 2013 – 16 March 2015
P W D L %Win
75 23 22 30 30.7
OVERALL
P W D L %win
269 109 81 79 40.5
HONOURS
BRIGHTON
2010-11 League One Champions
2010-11 League One Manager of the Year
2011-12 Football League Awards: Outstanding Managerial Performance
- See more at: http://www.leaguemanagers.com/news/lma-latest/gus-poyet-statement/#sthash.keodXFwa.dpuf
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For the most part bar a couple of seasons my team have been shite for the 30 odd years I have supported them.
The comments are about you, your a snide on I'll ignore you completely.
You poor baby. Well, take heart that it will all soon be over... we don't talk about Championship sides here on this board, so pretty soon you won't have much reason to come back and subject yourself to my abuse.
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For the most part bar a couple of seasons my team have been shite for the 30 odd years I have supported them.
The comments are about you, your a snide on I'll ignore you completely.
You poor baby. Well, take heart that it will all soon be over... we don't talk about Championship sides here on this board, so pretty soon you won't have much reason to come back and subject yourself to my abuse.
You really think championship football gonna stop kev and this thread? ::)
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For the most part bar a couple of seasons my team have been shite for the 30 odd years I have supported them.
The comments are about you, your a snide on I'll ignore you completely.
You poor baby. Well, take heart that it will all soon be over... we don't talk about Championship sides here on this board, so pretty soon you won't have much reason to come back and subject yourself to my abuse.
You really think championship football gonna stop kev and this thread? ::)
A man that knows his onions ;D Only when I shuffle off.
West Ham game, disappointing to lose late on, but truth be told the goal was coming for a long time and we didn't really deserve anything.
The big one for most fans today, Newcastle @ 4.00. The last couple of seasons we have gone into this game with a new manager and came away with the points against the odds, hope for the same thing again today after yesterdays results we need the points. I wish I could call it but as it has been for a good while haven't a clue which team will decide to turn up.
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Once again Kev. Big up yuhself. You guys are making a habit of the great escape. This means that Advocat is getting fired in the middle of next season, of course.
As for the goal. That was a hell of a strike. What a way to end the weekend!
That's what 70k a week gets you. I wonder how come Defoe never did that in the MLS.
:notworthy: :notworthy:
http://mediacdn.fanatix.com/media/2e/3b/d59fbce581b98f229b68b02670b23df7e4c0/upload.fanatix.mp4
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Once again Kev. Big up yuhself. You guys are making a habit of the great escape. This means that Advocat is getting fired in the middle of next season, of course.
As for the goal. That was a hell of a strike. What a way to end the weekend!
That's what 70k a week gets you. I wonder how come Defoe never did that in the MLS.
:notworthy: :notworthy:
http://mediacdn.fanatix.com/media/2e/3b/d59fbce581b98f229b68b02670b23df7e4c0/upload.fanatix.mp4
Yes that was a spectacular strike, what a rocket....this weekend had some nice goals around the board
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Once again Kev. Big up yuhself. You guys are making a habit of the great escape. This means that Advocat is getting fired in the middle of next season, of course.
As for the goal. That was a hell of a strike. What a way to end the weekend!
That's what 70k a week gets you. I wonder how come Defoe never did that in the MLS.
:notworthy: :notworthy:
http://mediacdn.fanatix.com/media/2e/3b/d59fbce581b98f229b68b02670b23df7e4c0/upload.fanatix.mp4
He is only supposed to be in charge to end of season, being paid a lot of money and the rumour being he doesn't want it full time. So it will be his replacement that is sacked come Jan / Feb next year then. ;)
Not really a lot of blood and thunder for this particular game, it was OK but lit up by a great goal. Points are the most important thing so just have to make sure these 3 aren't wasted as we have too far too many times before.
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Look at the date, Kev. Most figured he was gone, but his public comments projected that he could right the ship. Include me amongst those who thought he was being optimistic. Despite perhaps a measure of posturing, one got the sense that Poyet legitimately felt he could reverse the rot. Indeed, his subsequent comments seem to confirm that.
Sorry I meant to reply to this but have been really busy.
For me Poyet is a strange guy, hard to like and is like Paulo Di Canio but more calculating. He whinged about signings then and not being in charge then comes out and admits he was looking at the same players for ages and bought 2 ex Brighton players, it doesn't look like he had no say from the outside.
PDC was bang on there is an attitude in the dressing room and has been for a while. As I have said on this thread on many occasions over the past few seasons. They turn it on when they want or a new manager comes in, it happened under MON, PDC and Poyet.
The stats may back him up, but stats don't tell the whole story. We were dead and buried last season, he was suicidal in January, the stats tell us points per game and it looks OK, look deeper and the majority of those points came in the last few games against the top opposition, take those out and points per game is woeful. Indeed the last game when safe was back to a heartless display against Swansea at home. The system he played was not lose and defend, keeping the ball is fine but keeping it in your own half does nothing with the inevitable odd lump forward, there was no tempo and it was like watching in ultra slow motion.
Short (the owner) is a strange man, bought the club as an investment and has invested heavily until the last 2 seasons. His only goal now is to stay in the prem. For a very successful man he has made some weird decisions, at best could be called naive but in reality extremely poor. PDC was a last ditch appointment to try to avoid relegation and he got away with it, but it was always going to end the way it did. The fact the players revolted tells its own story, he appointed an agent as DOF and proceeded to buy foreign / free players young with some chance of sell on value, so went in the next season with a mad manager, players that had no prem experience, DOF with no prem experience and a worse team because he has filled the team by using the loan system. Last season he got Poyet and was dead and buried until that once in a lifetime run, sacked the DOF got a new one. Went into this season with a worse team (loans gone) and the players still here. Like the PDC thing it was always going to be a long old season the only surprise to me is that we haven't spent as long in the bottom 3. It remains to be seen whether he gets away with it again and its more hope than expectation.
Palace today at home, been playing well and have a bit of pace about them which isn't great for us. Pardew the ex newcastle manager would love to get this. What will happen god knows and any result apart from a hefty win for us wouldn't surprise me.
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Well that went well, Sunday League defending with a high line and pacey opposition, woeful. I would love to say I was surprised but alas no.
Onwards and upwards (or is that downwards) :)
A special mention to the ref who was awful and lost control early on, it should of been a lot worse, how Rodwell stayed on the field after 15 minutes is beyond me and the vast majority of fans.
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Stoke away today who are doing OK, its mystic meg time because I won't guess at the outcome, but we need the points, so its hope rather than expectation, an all too familiar theme.
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Well a 1-1 draw which is better than nothing, but other results didn't go our way. Maybe the owners luck has ran out this season we shall see.
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Southampton, Everton, Leicester, Arsenal and Chelsea to close off...
Honestly I only see Sunderland winning maybe one of those games.
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Which one? Leicester?
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Which one? Leicester?
Yup
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Yuh know when yuh back against de wall yuh does fight like a cat.
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Southampton, Everton, Leicester, Arsenal and Chelsea to close off...
Honestly I only see Sunderland winning maybe one of those games.
TBH I think we might win a game but only because of averages, nothing the team has shown. Last years miracle was once in a lifetime, this year it is closer but showing absolutely nothing, don't think anyone has anything to complain about if we go this season. The only saving graces (a faint hope) is that the league will be done and dusted for the Chelsea game and Arsenal have a FA Cup Final the following week.
Southampton at home today, again a bit of pace so a bit of a worry (understatement alert) but who knows I certainly don't, once more into blah blah blah.
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Southampton, Everton, Leicester, Arsenal and Chelsea to close off...
Honestly I only see Sunderland winning maybe one of those games.
TBH I think we might win a game but only because of averages, nothing the team has shown. Last years miracle was once in a lifetime, this year it is closer but showing absolutely nothing, don't think anyone has anything to complain about if we go this season. The only saving graces (a faint hope) is that the league will be done and dusted for the Chelsea game and Arsenal have a FA Cup Final the following week.
Southampton at home today, again a bit of pace so a bit of a worry (understatement alert) but who knows I certainly don't, once more into blah blah blah.
hangin in there :D
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2-1 win both penalties which were right so no worries ;D
Other results were not good so status quo maintained and still in the deep tata. Same old same old for me so just see what pans out. Have a nice week.
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Away to Everton in the early kick off 12.45. We don't tend to get anything from Everton, although we did last year when they went down to 10 earlyish on. Hope for a repeat, but thats all it is.
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:frustrated: ...seems like they're gonna pull it off again {sigh}
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:frustrated: ...seems like they're gonna pull it off again {sigh}
Lets not count our chickens, you nasty man ;)
A massive 3 points today, hammered and 2 deflections aswell. Will the owners luck hold out again, haven't a clue but we were dead and buried last season and got away with it. This is far from over Leicester is the big one, 3 points and I think that will be enough, but what do I know.
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Well Leicester at home today 3.00 KO, probably biggest game of the season a win here and there is a very good chance we will get away with it again, but so many twists and turns my head hurts. Only one thing to do sit back, see what happens and take it like a man either way.
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Hmm.... Curious result! :thinking:
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A draw which was not quite good enough. To go down now Newcastle have to avoid defeat and Hull have to win their last game and we have to lose both ours by more than 5 goals. That isn't that ridiculous as we have Arsenal on Wednesday and Chelsea next Sunday. Hull have Manu and Newcastle West Ham.
I suspect our formation maybe 10-0-0 in our last 2 games as a point is all we need. You always get strange results towards the end as a lot of nothing games but the past 5 or 6 weeks have been stranger than ever with the teams in danger or relegation have put a couple of wins together at various stages which no one could see coming.
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Beat Arsenal
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Arsenal tonight a point will do.
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Arsenal tonight a point will do.
:D
one more season.
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Arsenal tonight a point will do.
:D
one more season.
point taken........ BPL next year.
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:frustrated: ...seems like they're gonna pull it off again {sigh}
And you were right :cheers:
Got away with it again, I suppose thats all that counts, but the owner seriously can't believe 4 in a row, can he :banginghead:
Alls well that ends well
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Chelsea away today with both teams on holiday / on the piss. Our lot have never needed an excuse to down tools even when it did matter. ;D
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Chelsea away today with both teams on holiday / on the piss. Our lot have never needed an excuse to down tools even when it did matter. ;D
I was just talking to an old colleague of mine in England. Mad Chelsea supporter. He arranged for me to take a young lad to Chelsea vs Sunderland 7 years ago. He messaged to wish Central luck vs Connection today. He's going to the game today and I pointed out that we will both be cheering CFC vs one of Kenwyne Jones old clubs!!
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Well another end to the season, actually played better than I thought they would, but no surprise in the result.
The club have offered Dick the job, but his wife wanted him to retire home and it was only for the rest of the season when he took it. He has gone away to talk it over with his family and we will find out this week. Good luck to him whatever he decides, if he takes it he will need it.
This should be a big summer, but so should of the last 2, whether it will happen remains to be seen, keep buying bog standard squad players and fiddling at the edges and yet another season of struggle and dreary football awaits. I am getting too old for this tata.
Hope everybody has a good summer and see you next season, hopefully a bit more time on my hands so I can read the board a bit more.
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Well another end to the season, actually played better than I thought they would, but no surprise in the result.
The club have offered Dick the job, but his wife wanted him to retire home and it was only for the rest of the season when he took it. He has gone away to talk it over with his family and we will find out this week. Good luck to him whatever he decides, if he takes it he will need it.
This should be a big summer, but so should of the last 2, whether it will happen remains to be seen, keep buying bog standard squad players and fiddling at the edges and yet another season of struggle and dreary football awaits. I am getting too old for this tata.
Hope everybody has a good summer and see you next season, hopefully a bit more time on my hands so I can read the board a bit more.
He's leaving. Wise decision.
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Well bad penny time ;)
Hope everyone is well and had a good summer.
Advocaat had a change of heart and is here for another year, so here's hoping, but we might be looking for his replacement around the usual time ;D
Again we haven't done enough in the transfer window (so far) in terms of both quantity and quality. Matthews is a young(ish) full back from Scotland who needs to improve if to make his mark, not that hard to make it into the team imho.
Coates made his loan permanent, I don't particularly rate him but fits into slow lumbering mould of our other CB's.
Lens looks a good player but will need to adjust but is a decent signing.
Just signed M'Vila on loan for a year, who was / is a good player but seems to have off field issues so have to wait and see how that pans out.
Sold Wickham, no big loss really but needs replacing.
Leicester away today @ 3.00 who have a new manager, we haven't had a good preseason so just have to see what happens.
As things stand in for another stressful year. Onwards and upwards.
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All the best to the team this season Kev. Your time will come again, bro. Thanks for your faithful updates.
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Not this again! ::)
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They look in solid mid-season form.
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Good cur arse
Jumbie all these teams:Stoke Sunderland Southhampton Bournemouth
Bring back KJ - or else the jumbie on all your arse all season lol
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Good cur arse
Jumbie all these teams:Stoke Sunderland Southhampton Bournemouth
Bring back KJ - or else the jumbie on all your arse all season lol
OK I know Tata WTF jumbie - curse? If so we could do with some Vodoo ;D
KJ can't move anywhere in England, won't get a work permit, I think
Another good Saturday ruined, at least its consistent.
Defending was a joke, forgot we also added Kaboul, who was OK but rumours about injuries affecting him looked true off yesterdays performance but he did not look fit to me or at least hope not. If he is see Coates above.
Not this again! ::)
Behave man, you know the score ;)
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Good cur arse
Jumbie all these teams:Stoke Sunderland Southhampton Bournemouth
Bring back KJ - or else the jumbie on all your arse all season lol
OK I know Tata WTF jumbie - curse? If so we could do with some Vodoo ;D
KJ can't move anywhere in England, won't get a work permit, I think
Another good Saturday ruined, at least its consistent.
Defending was a joke, forgot we also added Kaboul, who was OK but rumours about injuries affecting him looked true off yesterdays performance but he did not look fit to me or at least hope not. If he is see Coates above.
Not this again! ::)
Behave man, you know the score ;)
i hope you know that these guys are joking, it's how trinis get their kiks. i feel for you mate being huge saddlers supporter myself for many years and felt the pain of the promotion and relegation and hoping for top flight football which never happened in my life time. at least you makems had the pleasure of playing in the premiere league. good luck to you this season you will need it.
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Good cur arse
Jumbie all these teams:Stoke Sunderland Southhampton Bournemouth
Bring back KJ - or else the jumbie on all your arse all season lol
OK I know Tata WTF jumbie - curse? If so we could do with some Vodoo ;D
KJ can't move anywhere in England, won't get a work permit, I think
Another good Saturday ruined, at least its consistent.
Defending was a joke, forgot we also added Kaboul, who was OK but rumours about injuries affecting him looked true off yesterdays performance but he did not look fit to me or at least hope not. If he is see Coates above.
Not this again! ::)
Behave man, you know the score ;)
i hope you know that these guys are joking, it's how trinis get their kiks. i feel for you mate being huge saddlers supporter myself for many years and felt the pain of the promotion and relegation and hoping for top flight football which never happened in my life time. at least you makems had the pleasure of playing in the premiere league. good luck to you this season you will need it.
No I am very upset, everyone knows how sensitive I am.
Norwich at home today, M'Vila may play given last weeks performances (if you could call it that). As mentioned above he has a demon or two and played in the U21 game and got sent off for a headbutt, so should make an interesting watch if he does start.
The same goes as usual not a clue what is going to happen and no expectation so wait and see. No new players and 2 weeks left.
Have a nice weekend.
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The canaries are devouring the black cats at present. What irony!
:praying: Please let this be the year!!!
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The canaries are devouring the black cats at present. What irony!
:praying: Please let this be the year!!!
You nasty man.
It should of been year before last and last year, can't keep doing it luck will run out. Interestingly gallows humour has started already between fans, which is not the best sign 2 games in. M'Vila did OK.
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The canaries are devouring the black cats at present. What irony!
:praying: Please let this be the year!!!
You nasty man.
It should of been year before last and last year, can't keep doing it luck will run out. Interestingly gallows humour has started already between fans, which is not the best sign 2 games in. M'Vila did OK.
:rotfl:
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Swansea at home today, which could well be fun.
A week and a bit left of the transfer window and Advocaat isn't a happy bunny, very big week, wouldn't be surprised if nothing forthcoming Advocaat will be gone in the short term. Wouldn't blame the lad either.
Have a nice weekend.
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Dick Advocaat tells Sunderland players they are all for sale
By Louise Taylor (The Guardian, UK).
• Sunderland manager says club is already facing relegation fight
• Advocaat says Jermain Defoe will not play as centre-forward
After saying every senior Sunderland player is available for sale Dick Advocaat declined invitations to confirm he intends to see out his one-year contract.
“I don’t want to discuss that now,” he said. “It’s not an issue, we’re concentrating on the Swansea game.” Even so, it is clear he is not exactly thrilled with a side tthat have conceded seven goals in two games. “Every player is for sale,” said a man already braced for a relegation battle. “If the player wants to go then he can go.”
He hopes any departures would fund new arrivals. ”I have definitely said to our owner [Ellis Short] we needed five or six new players,” he said. “He says we have four or five [already]. But I said we need quality players. You always get what you pay for. But I have to be fair to the owner; he never mentioned a figure to me.
“We can compete to stay in the league, but no more. Financially, at the moment we can’t compete with other clubs.” Asked if Sunderland faced a relegation fight, he said: “Yes, the problem is that all the other teams are spending fortunes, and we cannot.”
Sunderland’s manager also made it plain Jermain Defoe will not be offered a central attacking role: “Jermain Defoe will play on the left or the right side – or on the bench. Nobody can tell me where he has to play. I decide which player plays where, not players.”
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Swansea at home today, which could well be fun.
A week and a bit left of the transfer window and Advocaat isn't a happy bunny, very big week, wouldn't be surprised if nothing forthcoming Advocaat will be gone in the short term. Wouldn't blame the lad either.
Have a nice weekend.
History has a habit of repeating itself – but rarely with the debilitating frequency experienced at Sunderland. The cycle goes like this: the team struggles to the point where relegation seems inevitable, the manager is sacked, a replacement parachuted in and the Championship somehow averted. Shortly afterwards, the players regress into bad habits and what has become an alarmingly recurring theme continues.
Martin O’Neill, Paolo Di Canio and Gus Poyet have all fallen victim to the syndrome and now even Dick Advocaat is experiencing it. The difference today is that, unless things change radically, the 67-year-old former Holland coach is unlikely to hang around waiting to be dismissed a few months down the line.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/16/sunderland-dick-advocaat-cannot-go-on-norwich-city
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Well a point is more than I expected tbh. The players put in some effort at least, which was different from the 1st 2. Carried a bit of luck but its a start. League Cup against Exeter during the week expect a much changed team.
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Villa away today as usual not a clue, however Villa have a bug in the dressing room so might have a few players missing and / or playing under the weather. WE have signed some Swede on loan for the season yesterday.
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2-2 draw which was fair enough probably, open game teh new boys were the best performers so another welcome and surprised point. Have a nice weekend
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Spurs at home today @ 1.30. Just have to wait and see what happens. In the last week of the transfer window we "resigned" Borini on a permanent from Liverpool and Yedlin on loan from Spurs, we desperately need a half decent fullback on each side but know nothing about him, having said that he wouldn't have to be much cop to be better than we already have.
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I'm tempted to feel sorry for this group especially after this loss... But the last time I felt sorry they avoided being relegated.... So keep it up guys ;D
At least you have a chance of catching Chelsea :o
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A 1-0 defeat, but we will play worse and get points. A better game to watch than the score suggests and a draw would of been a fair result, we hit the post (should of scored) and the bar. Defence still a big worry, much better going forward and playing with a quicker tempo. Still a long old season ahead.
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Bournemouth away today, it will be interesting to see if the improvement last week is maintained, I wish I knew the answer.
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Bournemouth away today, it will be interesting to see if the improvement last week is maintained, I wish I knew the answer.
Brace for it kev, relegation seems likely. That display today was horrid.
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:busshead: :busshead: Least said soonest mender about sums that up, I think :busshead: :busshead:
Bournemouth away today, it will be interesting to see if the improvement last week is maintained, I wish I knew the answer.
Brace for it kev, relegation seems likely. That display today was horrid.
I have been braced for it the past 3 seasons, I honestly don't know how we are still here.
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Nice easy one today Manu away, no problem with the superb form we are showing ;D
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Senior moment and forgot to update last week, 3-0 wasn't a big surprise, but can't say anything as didn't get a chance to watch it and didn't bother with MOTD.
At home to West Am today @ 3.00. We shall see.
There is a very strong rumour that irrelevant of the result Advocatt is gone after today, no big shock, it would of been/ will be a much bigger shock if he gets through the season, never going to happen!
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A draw from a game we should of easily won by half time. 2 week break and highly probable change of manager so we shall see what the next act in the farce. Of farce a special mention for the ref who made some terrible decisions mostly against us. (Lens 2 yellows not being any of them)
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Well another 2 weeks gone and another manager, Allardyce's first match is away to West Brom, so we will see how the players get on. Not a big surprise last performance as everybody and their dog knew Advocatt was off.
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Well another 2 weeks gone and another manager, Allardyce's first match is away to West Brom, so we will see how the players get on. Not a big surprise last performance as everybody and their dog knew Advocatt was off.
What' your take on the hiring of Big Sam kev?
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same ole sunderland ;D
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Well another 2 weeks gone and another manager, Allardyce's first match is away to West Brom, so we will see how the players get on. Not a big surprise last performance as everybody and their dog knew Advocatt was off.
What' your take on the hiring of Big Sam kev?
Mixed really, considering the farce the club is / has been last couple of years, I thought it would be another nothing appointment like PDC. I think the prem has/is moving on and needs a different approach than a few years ago. The team needs a solid defence that is organised, Fat Sam can do that, but he will even struggle given the players available to him, unless we go back to Poyets approach. We have got away with murder particularly the last 2 seasons and given we have failed again to address the issues this season is no surprise. I simply have no idea how it is going to pan out as the problems have been obvious, I hope he can sort it out for a season or 2 then move on, by the same token I wouldn't be that shocked if we are on our 3rd manager come Feb.
same ole sunderland ;D
Don't think we played as well as we did against West Ham, poor goal to give away and didn't really create enough. The sad thing was West Brom were poor and should of taken advantage, but we have a nasty habit of gifting points.
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Newcastle at home today @ 12.00, for many the only 2 matches that matter this season, given the mood, get beat and god forbid if you need to get through to the samaritans, because it will be constantly engaged. Both teams desperate for the points, just have to wait and see.
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kev, you should be happy. Suds up one with a "lucky" penalty. But it is a good match.
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kev boy, Suds 3-0 today!!!
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3 goals, 3 points thats all you can ask, how is a different matter. Don't think it was a "lucky" penalty personally thought it was an obvious one, the sending off though was very harsh imho. Still 2nd best team even against 10 men
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Everton away today at 1.30. We stole 3 points there last season, lets see if it can happen again. Well you can live in hope.
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Like is cricket... Hit for six! ;D
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Like is cricket... Hit for six! ;D
A truly bizarre game given Allardyce is supposed to be in charge.
15 minutes gone should of been 2 up and in charge. Everton score go to pieces and then another, we score just before half time against all the play and equalise shortly after break. Then an avalanche of poor goals and still had a few more chances to score. I think Allardyce is a triffid.
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Southampton at home today which may or may not be fun, anybodys guess.
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I don't think I've ever seen big Sam hold his head in his hands like he did after the tackle that gave away the penalty. If nothing else he's definitely got to earn his paycheck this time around.
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A nothing game really, score summed it up, doubt anybody would say we should of got something out of it tbh.
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Palace away tonight, should be interesting considering they have a bit of pace about them.
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Similar to Southampton, only we had the slightly better of it and a bad mistake for our goal, makes a change from us. Welcome 3 points boy did we need them.
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Tried to log on last week but the site was down, but a very welcome and much needed 3 points, who knew?
Arsenal away today so no expectation whatsoever.
Have a nice weekend.
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Well a 3-1 defeat no change, but it was a strange game as the last few, lots of forward players because of a couple of injuries, but really could and should of got something from the match. A more pleasing performance so see if we can keep it up.
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Watford at home today, who have had a much better start than us (didn't everybody ;) ), really need the 3 points and just as importantly keep points away from Watford. You would think it was nearing the end of the season already, buts its not even Christmas.
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1-0 defeat, it was cold and a grind in a nothing match, feeling my age me thinks, as the saying goes, don't let the bar stewards grind you down.
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Chelsea away today, a sentence on BBC sport made me chuckle earlier in the week before Jose went, "At this Saturday home to fellow strugglers Sunderland" Well just have to wait and see what happens, should be interesting viewing either way.
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Woeful defending so nothing new easy Man City Liverpool next ;)
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I hope everyone that a great and safe xmas and the fat man in the red coat brought you something nice.
Well Man City away today should be good for a laugh, ho ho ho.
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From the time i saw the Sunderland starting line up, it was clear that Big Sam wasnt interested in getting a result in today
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Well I was right it was fun, the only surprise was how long before they scored.
From the time i saw the Sunderland starting line up, it was clear that Big Sam wasnt interested in getting a result in today
tbf thats all he has a few injuries doesn't help, but I have had the feeling the last few weeks that he is just trying anything and making a point hoping it will make a difference for transfer window. We will have to wait and see. Can't really complain because should of gone last 3 times in reality.
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Liverpool tonight so haven't a clue, not watched a lot of football lately but their results seem to be a bit up and down????
I would like to wish everyone a happy new year and hope you all have a great 2016. Please remember, be good, failing that be careful, if you can do neither don't get caught.
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Apart from saying tonight instead of tomorrow ( I lost a day somehow) it was a nothing match really.
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Villa at home today, could be a defining game depending on the transfer window. As usual not a clue haven't seen Villa at all so just have to wait and see, its an achievement in its own right to have less points than us. ;D
Happy New Year :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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Horrible game with 2 poor sides but 3 points anyway woo hoo ;D
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Swansea away tonight who are also struggling a bit, lets hope for a repeat.
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Well 3 points again in a 4-2 win, but this was all about the ref and linesman. 2 of our goals could of been flagged offside, 1 I can understand the other not really, a penalty to them for the guy kicking the ground and falling over and a very harsh red card that should be rescinded. We also missed a couple of sitters. Hard to see how the ref can have a game worse than this in the rest of his time.
Onwards and upwards, or in our case more likely awaiting the next kick in the balls.
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Away to Spurs today, early KO. Anything would be an unexpected bonus.
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4-1 but like attack v defence training, wasn't really worthy 4-1 but we were not worthy of anything from the game so fair enough really.
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At home to Bournemouth today so a big match regarding result and Bournemouth having been doing well considering they have some key injuries. Have to wait and see.
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A turgid display and still got a point, WTF
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Man City away tonight, start of a run of 4 games that really not expecting anything from so a Brucie Bonus would be nice.
Couple of new players in from France CH and attacker have to wait and see how they settle and get on. Can't be any worse, famous last words. ;D ;D ;D
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A 1-0 defeat but actually a good game and we deserved more, but it all evens itself out as above. Onwards and upwards (or downwards) whichever it is to be.
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Can't understand why Sunderland can't win, they play pretty decent football.
Maybe they need to come on preseason in T&T and sign up one or two young talents.
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Can't understand why Sunderland can't win, they play pretty decent football.
Maybe they need to come on preseason in T&T and sign up one or two young talents.
You obviously didn't see 1st half against Bournemouth. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Liverpool away today, who seem to blow hot and cold, but anything in my eyes would be a bonus. The big thing for me is can we repeat the Man City performance with the new lads in the side or is it another Bournemouth, our problem is has always has been for the last few seasons 1 followed by half a dozen of the other.
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A very unlikely 2-2 draw with 10 or so minutes left, not a good performance either so par for the course really following the midweek performance.
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Manu at home in the early kick off today, so wait and see but as above anything a bonus.
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A good 3 points ;D actually probably deserved on the balance of play but desperately needed no game for a couple of weeks now.
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West Ham away today on the early match. Players have been away in Dubai and 3 games this week, a very big week and just have to wait and see how it pans out. I gave in predicting 2 years ago.
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1-0 loss, but should of got at least a point from the game, a combination of atrocious defending and poor finishing.
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Sunderland should have won that game yesterday but Defoe and Khazri was wasteful.
Ah have a few Trinis for you Kev, tell your boss to give them a trial, they can help your team and they would not cost much.
Pick a couple out of this list...
Jomal Williams, Andre Ettiene, Shackiel Henry, Aikim Andrews, Sean De Silva, Robert Primus, Kishun Seecharan, Daneil Cyrus and Alvin Jones.
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Don't know about the players but the avatar gives this old man a smile, not so sure its good for the old ticker though. (Is there a smiley for A Dirty Old Man ?? ) ;D
Palace at home tonight running out of games a point would be OK but really need 3. We shall have to see.
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Another game we should of really taken 3 points, but ended up taking 1 with a last minute equaliser which will be debated forever whether it was meant or not.
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Away to Southampton today, could do with a point or 3 but just wait and see.
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1-1 which was probably a fair result, but with being 1-0 up against 10 men and a minute or so to go we should of got all 3 again. Ah well. No game for 2 weeks as Everton are involved in the cup next weekend.
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Away to Newcastle today so the big one for most North East fans and very important given both teams are in real danger of relegation. Usually this time of year we have changed managers and won, this time Newcastle have changed and have Benitez so have to wait and see. Today would make it 7 in a row extending the record by any one team. Should be an interesting game.
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1-1 draw that should of really been 3 points, the last couple of games could be our undoing this year. No game again for a couple of weeks due to international break.
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West Brom at home today, need a win simple as that. Whether we get one remains to be seen, as fans our saying goes "It's the Hope we can't stand" ;D
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0-0 Draw which wasn't a lot of use really. Onwards and upwards or downwards whichever the football gods sees fit.
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Kev, I sense an upset brewing for Sunday.
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We play League Leaders Leicester today, a sentence I never thought I would be typing this time of year. I am one of the ones that are really hoping they can win it as the rest fall aside, think it would be good for the league and shut the money league arrogant bar stewards up.
On a selfish note I hope they get nothing today, as with every team that wins it they have been going through a scraping result period and getting away with it a bit. Just have to wait and see. The deciding game will be against Norwich next week, imho.
Kev, I sense an upset brewing for Sunday.
Here's hoping ;)
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A game with nothing in it until last 15 minutes or so, missed a few easy chances should of really took something from it.
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Well I think today might be the day, things are sorted out. Norwich away in the early game and if we get beat we are toast, a draw isn't really any good either tbh. Time for the team to "Shit or get off the pot" as we say.
I wish I could say which one but after watching them to 4 years turn up when they want to, it would only be a stab in the dark guess.
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Congrats, Kev.
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Thank you,
Down to a 4 game season, usually 6 or 7 but will take it.
Thought we didn't play as well as in other games but 3-0 so points are all that matters now.
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Arsenal at home today, its just all about points. They 3rd game this week, but was hoping the league would be sorted by now. Wait and see again.
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Sunderland played a hell of a game today. they more than deserve the 1 pot. Could have been 3 .
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Well 0-0 but the game was better than the scoreline would suggest. Not for the first time in recent weeks but should have got more from the game. Ah well onwards and upwards / downwards which ever the football gods see fit.
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Stoke away today and we're into "very squeaky bum" time, all about our and others results / points. I'm sure it will all come out in the wash.
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Well a 1-1 draw which again could of been more, but back in the drop zone for the time being at least :nailbiting:
A special mention to the ref who had a poor game with some obvious strange decisions and non decisions.
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Well the fat lass is into her final week, how it will end is anybodies guess, literally. Home to Chelsea today who have had a strange season, but a more normal one for them before they became Chelski.
Not a clue but really need a win.
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Sunderland 4ever & ever? (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36176565)
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Defoe turn back the years with that control and finish.
And the volley for the first goal was hard like a 90's sizzla track.
Special thanks to Kounty Biller
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Well that was fun, 3-2 a couple of really good goals (for a change) and in our own hands, win 1 or the last 2 games and safe again. I'm far too old for this shite year on year.
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Everton at home tonight, a win and the fat lass will be singing her heart out, again. ;D
Could go either way, so just wait and see.
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steups.... :P
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I hope Everton poison allyuh lol
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I hope Everton poison allyuh lol
So much for that. ;D
kev boy take a drink because you live in interesting times. :beermug: :beermug:
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Well the fat lass has sung her over worked heart out and we live to fight another year, a very big pay day.
Good match, but Everton on hols, who cares ;D ;D ;D ;D
steups.... :P
I know you were very worried about us all season, so thank you for you concern.
I hope Everton poison allyuh lol
Thanks and divvent let the door hit your arse on the way out.
I hope Everton poison allyuh lol
So much for that. ;D
kev boy take a drink because you live in interesting times. :beermug: :beermug:
Aye, we shall have to wait and see if any lessons have been learnt and we get decent players this summer.
Thanks.
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Well done SAFC for securing another year of Premiership football. They have escaping relegation down to a fine art. Even sweeter for their fans that it came at Newcastle's expense ;D
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Well away to Watford today, who have strangely decided to change manager the lad has done a great job. A meaningless game as nothing to play for and throwing in some kids to have a look at. Hopefully a better and busier summer to be had in the transfer market, we shall see.
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2-2 draw in a game that just went along merrily as expected given nothing to play for, even the officials got in on the act with some couldn't careless decisions, onto the summer. Hope everyone has a good summer take care.
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/07/roberto-mancini-england-manager-harry-redknapp (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/07/roberto-mancini-england-manager-harry-redknapp)
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The FA are seeking a manager who can create a strong team identity for England over the long term, imposing a philosophy that will run through the various age groups within the development teams at St George’s Park into the senior squad. Sunderland’s Sam Allardyce, Roberto Martínez and Jürgen Klinsmann, are likely to be considered, although the England under-21s manager, Gareth Southgate, has no interest in the role even on an interim basis. Arsène Wenger is willing to speak with the FA to offer advice, but is unlikely to pursue the job for himself.
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Loses manager to England (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36850753)
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Well under starters orders for another season, I would hope not more of the same, but at this point its only hope.
Easy start at Man City for Peps 1st game the late KO. Having said that they haven't looked that fluid in a short preseason and look a tad rusty on the new system, so all is not lost, 6-0 then. ;D
A fairly normal summer for us:-
Allardyce gone to England (unusual for us, swapping managers isn't) Moyes in.
I must admit I like Moyes, but he has something to prove as regarded as damaged goods from his last 2 jobs, we shall see.
On the player front same old same old we haven't done anywhere near enough.
A few players have gone out of contract and a few more sold, so short on quality (as always) and numbers.
Kone is working his ticket for a move and new contract 6 months into a 4 year deal, so I think he is gone. (Everton)
In
Chelsea CB - Djilobodji, from Senegal played in France and Chelsea bought him last season then loaned to Germany. One of those players you think why did they buy him. Supposed to be OK so we will see.
McNair from Manu a young CB / Midfield again I know very little about him.
Love the same RB
We have also done a season long loan for Adnan Januzaj from Manu.
Still need a RB, LB CH MF and Striker so not much then.
M'Vila still hasn't been signed as club want £5 Million for him with 6 months left on contract.
A lot of injuries at the minute so down to bare bones and a few youngsters have been playing preseason, done OK tbf.
So the usual "We haven't done enough" lets hope that changes over the next 2 weeks.
Hope you had a good summer and all well
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ent goh lie kev, yuh have real dedication.....is how many years since ah trini suit up for Sun'land .....anyways best of luck to u :beermug: :beermug:
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A few, its just belligerence and me being thick really.
The team sheet raised more than a few eyebrows and thoughts of here we go, shows how much we need.
2-1 wasn't a bad defeat, despite all City's possession they didn't create much and won by an own goal, 3 minutes from time. So no big deal for us.
City are poor defensively and unless they get their act together very quickly will not be within the league this year.
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Boro at home today @ 1.30. Expect a similar team to last week and have no expectation with regards the result.
No further players in but Kaboul has left the room and Kone is banned from training until 1st Sept or waves goodbye on his way to Everton. So really just the normal pre / early season start for us.
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2-1 defeat, makeshift young side who did OK'ish huffed and puffed a lot. Cracking 1st goal for Boro.
Natives unhappy, same old same old.
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Away to Southampton today @ 3.00, with another makeshift team and lost the keeper for 3 months. Not a big deal as Pickford is a good young keeper and not much between them if truth be told. But lacks experience and behind a makeshift defence / midfield isn't really a great combination.
Signed Manquillo on loan the Full Back that was on loan at Liverpool but didn't play much, suspect he might be in for a baptism of fire. Haven't seen him so no idea what he is like tbh.
Just a few days left in the transfer window so need to get their skates on.
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Well a 1-1, tbf a better performance with a makeshift team against a misfiring Southampton. We scored from a penalty, should of had another and they scored from a goalkeeper error, helped by poor defending. A point more than expected tbh. International break and end of transfer window so see what comes in and a chance to get the team on the training pitch and better drilled.
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Everton at home tonight with some players making it back into contention.
We didn't do enough in the window and had a couple of Moyes ex's on Freebies Pienaar and Anichibee, N'Dong from LOrient? for a huge fee for us and for him? and a keeper as our only other fit was is Pickford who is still young and inexperienced.
Have to see how it pans out but looks like a long old season again.
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3-0 Defeat, which was probably a fair result, a little harsh but poor defending. Still a work in progress line up.
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Spurs away today, a couple of players making it back but will not be match fit. No expectation of anything, great this football lark. ;D
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An extremely one sided 1-0, only kept taht way by teh keeper and poor finishing, ironically the goal was a howler of a defensive mistake.
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At home to Palace today, could do with the points or natives will start to get restless again.
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Stadium of Blight
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Stadium of Blight
Breds, what ah thing. Imagine that. With a couple mins. To go.
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2-3 1 minute or so to go all goals again poor defending. Awful game about what I expected tbh. Onto next week see what delights that brings.
Stadium of Blight
See the turd has turned up in the swimming pool again. ;D ;D ;D
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West Brom at home today, like all of last season, one before................... not a clue. The natives have become increasing restless after last weeks last minute capitulation.,
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1-1 draw, played OK then went behind and panic stations. It was an entertaining game in its own way, a bit like watching 2 packs of dogs chasing a balloon. A point is better than nothing, back to needing 3 teams to be worse than us this season and its a bit of an ask, roll on January.
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Stoke away today an ideal game for the scholars of the beautiful game ;D ;D ;D ;D ;
See what happens a couple of more injuries so nothing really new to report.
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Beat 2-0 woeful, inept etc. This just might be the season ;D
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West Ham away today, see what happens as they have been pretty poor. Always a reason to play us as tend to push that form aside.
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Kev, any thoughts on why Moyes took the position? Aside from merely wanting to manage in the PL, are there enough arguments to support it being considered a career-enhancing decision?
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Well a 1-0 defeat in the last seconds by a debatable goal but that just how it is atm. I may add the 1st 30 minutes was as bad as I have seen and trust me through the many years I have seen some tata. ;D
As the quote doesn't seem to want to work atm, it just keeps "Loading".
After his last couple of jobs I think Moyes maybe regarded as "damaged goods" by some. I don't think any manager / player thinks joining is a career enhancing decision, I think the money is very good and they don't have to do much for it. The owner has tried previously to get Moyes so maybe he felt really wanted, it didn't do Allardyce any real harm. He is honest a little dour and has made a few mistakes in the things he has said to the press, interestingly he and the CEO have been on a charm offensive with the fans this week, going unannounced and uninvited to a supporters group meeting.
Its a strange one, he was far and away the obvious candidate, the only doubt I had was the same as Martin O'Neil a little too late and without his right hand man seemed a shadow of his former self.
He hasn't been dealt a very good hand, a ridiculous amount of injuries and by all accounts he was always very studious / long winded around buying players, he didn't have that luxury in the summer. We needed at least 4 1st team players, not bodies/ squad fillers or kids. As above again we failed to do it and this has been compounded by having to throw them and kids in and "his signings" haven't looked anywhere near up to it. The jurys out to whether he will be afforded the time, once the fans go the other way it only ends in tears, they have already had "clear the air talks" this week which is never a good sign. He may not of been dealt a good hand, been a bit unlucky, but I doubt think anybody can argue he hasn't played it very well. From my side I hope he gets through it, but we have a very old saying in supporting the club "Its the Hope I can't Stand" ;D ;D ;D
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Arsenal at home today early kick off match. This might get very very messy today. My hope is for a little bit untidy ;)
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Well it got a bit messy but not that quickly, it was better than I expected, which says a lot given we were beaten 4-1
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Bournemouth away today, who knows we might get a point, big might. The natives aren't happy and sense the mood is about to change if something doesn't on the pitch.
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Well a much needed 3 points, how I am not so sure. A crazy game, Bournemouth on top for 30 minutes scored, then we scored Bournemouth went to pieces. 2nd half Pienaar got sent off, all over the place how Bournemouth didn't score a couple is beyond me. Penalty and 2-1 victory. Madness
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HUll at home, given the points situation could do with a win and keep them off Hull, have to wait and see.
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3 points awful performance but who cares table looks a bit better roll on January
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Away to Liverpool today, a bit like the Arsenal game really, settle for a little untidy rather than a big mess very quickly.
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d kinda diligence and commitment kev have to this thread is inspiring
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No just bloody mindedness, its the way we are bred unfortunately.
2-0 defeat, Liverpool had all the possession didn't really do a lot with it, cross come shot and a penalty.
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Home to last years champions Leicester today, who aren't having a great time atm. Most neutrals expected a more usual season from this year but worse than thought they would do. Hopefully we get pick up some points, just have to wait and see.
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Well 2-1 win 3 points OK performance but you could see why both teams are struggling atm.
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Glad Sunderland get some useful games from Defoe. That off season when he left Toronto was a bit infuriating tbh.
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Away to Swansea today, some points would be nice especially given their position
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3-0 Defeat ah well, poor defending and a silly penalty
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Chelsea at home tonight so a tad apprehensive ;D
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A 1-0 defeat that was probably better than could be expected.
More importantly Bradley was the mascot and had a good time, so alls good.
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Watford at home today, who are doing well again but hope for a point or 3.
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A very welcome 3 points is the kindest thing you can say.
Next match boxing day.
So I hope everybody gets what they want of the fat man in a red suit, and you and yours have a great and safe Christmas.
As usual be good, if you can't be good be careful and if you can do neither, don't get caught.
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Hope everybody had a nice Christmas.
Man Utd away today so a nice easy one after the Xmas Lunch.
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Sorry Kev. Merry Christmas anyway.
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Sorry Kev. Merry Christmas anyway.
The same.
Expected defeat but not that bad a performance so no big deal.
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Burnley away today so really need a result.
The injuries just keep coming Pickford the latest one to do his knee (although not that badly). Awful lot this year, but thats the way it goes.
Hope everybody has a safe night tonight and all the best for 2017
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Happy New Year everyone, hope you are all safe.
As for yesterday, nothing I can say except ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Got waylaid yesterday, but given the injuries and rest I would of thought turning up at the match with your boots might put you in contention for a place.
So happy about the point against Liverpool.
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Got waylaid yesterday, but given the injuries and rest I would of thought turning up at the match with your boots might put you in contention for a place.
So happy about the point against Liverpool.
Happy New Year.. Game could have been different, if Dafoe didn`t uncharacteristically flub that breakway..didn;t see 2nd half doh
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As long as you have Defoe, you have a chance.
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Stoke at home today, need some points really so see what happens.
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3-1 defeat Keystone Cop defending, it was tata with capital T.
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West Brom away today, should be fun.
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A very easy run of the mill 2-0 defeat.
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Spurs at home tonight a point or 3 would be nice, but anything would be a bonus I feel.
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Spurs at home tonight a point or 3 would be nice, but anything would be a bonus I feel.
1 point, good result.
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Got waylaid a point was very good against Spuds.
Away to Palace today another point would be useful.
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Got waylaid a point was very good against Spuds.
Away to Palace today another point would be useful.
What boy, Kev. Allyuh in form today. 4-0. Allyuh smashup the Palace.
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Wow, Wow and Wow.
Feels like the Twilight Zone, 4-0 at half time. Can't be right ;D
Lost for words.
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Kev I watched a special today on Sunderland AFC and it gave an insight to the clubs history and what it means to the people. Supporting the club is like a religion and everyone in the community is fully committed, it means everything to all those coal miners from back in the day. Sunderland is a massive club man.
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I suspect "Never Lose the Faith" it can be seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix3Wcl193BU in parts.
The big club thing has been skewed somewhat by money, Chelsea being the prime example. Look at our part of the world and the pathetic level of success over the past 50 years ours and Newcastle level of support home and away is astounding. Very few other clubs would do the same.
Today its Southampton at home, who aren't having a great time. The crux is to make the most of last weeks points by getting 3 more this weeks. Southampton aren't playing well and have the EFL Final on their minds which is their next match after teh international break. So here's hoping.
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The Lord giveth...................................................................
Thought keep the them for th week.
0-4 at least only 0-2 at half time. Its fun this lark 2 week break grateful for small mercies.
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Away to Everton today who have been a bit hit and miss lately so you can always hope.
Everton have been great to Bradley a little Sunderland supporting lad who is not long for this world, they donated money for him to go to the states before the latest test results that confirmed it was too late for the treatment. Sometimes, not often football doesn't really matter and that is saying a lot from our area.
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A regulation 2-0 defeat not much else to say really.
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Man City at home today could do with a point or 3 as table is looking tad scary.
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Burnley at home, desperately needing a result, the fat lady seems to be well warmed up this season, again. ;)
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Awful game and a 0-0 draw, not what was needed, her volume went up a notch.
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Watford away today, as always hope rather than expectation.
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1-0 defeat, really can't be arsed with this season can we not end it now?
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Manu at home today and looking increasingly bleak. Similar to a few seasons ago when we looked dead and buried with the games to play we had no chance. Better run of fixtures this time but like then I believe we are gone, nothing new then!
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Manu at home today and looking increasingly bleak. Similar to a few seasons ago when we looked dead and buried with the games to play we had no chance. Better run of fixtures this time but like then I believe we are gone, nothing new then!
Sunderland played like a side going down today. That's it !!
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It did not help their cause playing with ten men. The tackle by Larson was not called for. Granted he just grazed Herrera, the studs in the air was a problem. I think they need 10 pts from 5 games. It could be done.
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Manu at home today and looking increasingly bleak. Similar to a few seasons ago when we looked dead and buried with the games to play we had no chance. Better run of fixtures this time but like then I believe we are gone, nothing new then!
Sunderland played like a side going down today. That's it !!
it was ah fair run with about 3yrs or more of lucky breaks....no last gasp sequence of good results to save alyuh dis time....sorry boy kev it was good while lasted and thank for givin so many trinis ah run :applause: :applause: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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It did not help their cause playing with ten men. The tackle by Larson was not called for. Granted he just grazed Herrera, the studs in the air was a problem. I think they need 10 pts from 5 games. It could be done.
nah deeks dey would also need d teams above to have bad results for more than half dey remainin games doh see dat happening.....it would take two games to get ahead of middlesbrough alone, which includes middlesbrough away....tough nut!
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Lefty man, have some faith Nah!
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Lefty man, have some faith Nah!
deeks d numbers doh support it on Sunderland current form dais all I saying......at this stage dey normal late surge if it come might be just, just too late...sun'land need 3 "unanswered" wins jus to get to 18 and with dat hull or/and palace to have poor runs to d end to get to 17....hull not goin and lose 4 straight
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Sorry kev... I need this team to go down so badly.... Should have happened years ago.
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Don't know why you "need" it to go down badly, but your right should of happened years ago, last chance today, but think this year is it. (famous last words again)
West ham home today.
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Draw no good really, think we're toast now. Not such a bad thing imho.
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Boro tonight don't think it makes no odds as above. Bit of honey on it nice.
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1-0 defeat looks certain the fat lady will get to perform this year, I'm sure she has a great voice. :)
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kev let me be honest with you and tell you what none of these nice individuals want to tell you. This thread was only created in support of Yorkie, Carlos, Stern and Kenwyne. We don't really care about the fortunes of the black cats especially as we have no connection to them now or for the last couple of years well! So.... I would suggest that this thread be discontinued finally at the end of the season when Sunderland finally goes down!!! What do you think? ;)
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so only Manu, Barca & Chelsea threads from now on? Do yuh ting eh Kev!! I ent think nobody elect a spokesman.
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so only Manu, Barca & Chelsea threads from now on? Do yuh ting eh Kev!! I ent think nobody elect a spokesman.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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kev let me be honest with you and tell you what none of these nice individuals want to tell you. This thread was only created in support of Yorkie, Carlos, Stern and Kenwyne. We don't really care about the fortunes of the black cats especially as we have no connection to them now or for the last couple of years well! So.... I would suggest that this thread be discontinued finally at the end of the season when Sunderland finally goes down!!! What do you think? ;)
But everyone knows that and has for the past few years.
You know that simply isn't going to happen, the thread, not Sunderland going down.
so only Manu, Barca & Chelsea threads from now on? Do yuh ting eh Kev!! I ent think nobody elect a spokesman.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
The worst kind of plastic fans.
Bournemouth today at home, doesn't make any odds, me thinks.
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I feel it for the fans... but good riddance to bad trash.
#Sunderbland aka #Blunderland
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down :thumbsdown:
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I feel it for the fans... but good riddance to bad trash.
#Sunderbland aka #Blunderland
i only agree with the 1st part. 34000+ fans to see them relegated. after the few disappointed jeers, applause for players leaving the field. young children and women crying in their sunderland jerseys. this dude coming in here religiously to post on his team. How many lessons T&T fans have to learn from this team!?
That defense is schoolboy. A good few MLS teams carrying better, which is unacceptable for prem [they should take a look and stock up next season]. Defoe don't deserve to go down. They should buy 'tulla ;)
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Hard luck dey Kev
You guys ran out of lives. It's not looking promising for a quick bounce-back either.
In general, terrible. I want to strangle Khazri every time he take a corner.
I think the commentator said most of the starting team is out of contract at the end of the season.
Rebuilding should already be starting
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I feel it for the fans... but good riddance to bad trash.
#Sunderbland aka #Blunderland
i only agree with the 1st part. 34000+ fans to see them relegated. after the few disappointed jeers, applause for players leaving the field. young children and women crying in their sunderland jerseys. this dude coming in here religiously to post on his team. How many lessons T&T fans have to learn from this team!?
That defense is schoolboy. A good few MLS teams carrying better, which is unacceptable for prem [they should take a look and stock up next season]. Defoe don't deserve to go down. They should buy 'tulla ;)
So... what exactly do you disagree with?
Jermain Defoe- 14 goals. Rest of the team- 11. 9 managers in 10 seasons since 2006 (including Keane, not counting Ball and Black). The current manager is facing FA charges (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/apr/26/david-moyes-sunderland-charged-fa-female-reporter-slap-remark) for 'joking' about slapping a female journalist for asking uncomfortable questions, while management carries on fiddling. And about that 'management'... kept on playing Adam Johnson while he was still in court dealing with charges he tried to screw a 15-year old. Not being satisfied with that, they then paid Margaret Byrne £750,000 in hush money for her mishandling of the related fiasco.
I suppose they're 'good' trash then? Be honest, the entire set up is rubbish.
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Somebody has to end up last. Unfortunately the Suds have the dubious pleasure of being in that position.
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I feel it for the fans... but good riddance to bad trash.
#Sunderbland aka #Blunderland
quelle surprise, look who's turn up again to gloat.
You really are the biggest Myopic Dick on the board (if not the world) aren't you! ;D ;D
Well fat lady has sung, she sounds sweet, thought the crowd would of been bigger but suppose a bit like me have become weary, I haven't really been watching away games for a month or so now. Nobody but nobody can't say we didn't deserve it. Should of cleared the decks after the Di Canio fiasco with the players, nows his chance.
Onto next week and then next season.
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I feel it for the fans... but good riddance to bad trash.
#Sunderbland aka #Blunderland
quelle surprise, look who's turn up again to gloat.
You really are the biggest Myopic Dick on the board (if not the world) aren't you! ;D ;D
Well fat lady has sung, she sounds sweet, thought the crowd would of been bigger but suppose a bit like me have become weary, I haven't really been watching away games for a month or so now. Nobody but nobody can't say we didn't deserve it. Should of cleared the decks after the Di Canio fiasco with the players, nows his chance.
Onto next week and then next season.
I actually tried to be kind to you as a supporter by acknowledging the pain of the fans, but God bless you, you weren't bright enough to pick up on the fact. Calling me all the names in the book doesn't change the fact that the team you support, and arguably the club itself, is utter rubbish. That's not a personal attack on you, no need for it, you shame enough yourself as it is, but rather an honest appraisal of where the club is at the moment. But no matter, I look forward to your updates from the Championship next season :beermug:
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Bakes seems pleasant.
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Hull away today and don't think thye have sold allocation which tells its own story and that very rarely happens, onwards and upwards.
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Sunderland looked like a decent team today. In the U.S, the game was on network TV (that is: not cable, not satellite) and during a prime time on Saturday morning. To those who say, local fans were only interested when the local players were on the team; that is not quite true. On a somewhat related note: I was at a conference in Washington some years ago, and saw a fan wearing a Sunderland shirt, so I greeted him. He responded but I could tell that it was a little awkward for both of us. In any case when one starts to follow a team (as I did because of the locals), then other things come into focus. The team really did not play well this year. Sunderland has had some fantastic escapes in the last few years; and it is those that bring on the smile.
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A win Woo - Hoo ;D
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Swansea at home today, only interest is to see what the crowd is and how they react.
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A defeat by Swansea, poor crowd and natives restless.
Regulation defeat by Arsenal poor game, poor Arsenal crowd and quiet as sin, 21st season in row in Champions league for them. Just shows you, wonder what the crowds would be like if they had the last 21 years we have had.
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You ain't see nuttin yet. Sunderland kev, come on down, the price is right, I'm sure Central Kev could make arrangements
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Chelsea away today last one in the prem for a while. Truth be told I wont miss it that much.
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All too predictable defeat, but tbh I didn't watch it, in fact I haven't watched an away match for a while now, I think that sums it up really.
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The DailyMail have a breakdown of all the money's received by premier league clubs. Chelsea got 150 mil. Suds got 93 million. Not bad for coming last.
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Here we go again, different division same old tata. ;D
New Manager, nothing spent, extended contracts, poor preseason, aborted tempt to sell club. No money, no decent players.
Its like groundhog season.
Derby tonight, god only knows.
Good to be back.
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1-1 draw so OK I suppose.
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No update for a while as been away / sidelined. Not missed much few draws / losses reality sinking in with the fans, so no biggie really.
Sheffield at home today, like last season not a clue. No money, not enough brought in not enough moved on, same old same old really.
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Another loss and he natives are extremely restless.
More importantly I hope everyone came through safe from the hurricane.
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Another loss and he natives are extremely restless.
More importantly I hope everyone came through safe from the hurricane.
hey kev how goes it.....
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It would be fine if it wasn't for my knee and what is supposed to be football, thanks for asking.
Forest tonight as above really.
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Late goal for Forest another defeat, although not as bad. Not that unexpected either onward and downward ;D
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It would be fine if it wasn't for my knee and what is supposed to be football, thanks for asking.
Forest tonight as above really.
sorry to here that about your knees.....I have issues with one of mine too....only when sit for too long or in cramped spaces so at least moving around is not an issue.....yet at least
as for for the football, take from your comments that the suffering continues, if so I feel for you, TT football in ah total mess right now too, so I know how you feel.
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Sunderland still playing poorly and losing in the Championship with a team that should be handling business. That club's problems are at the root, not the leaves.
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To be frank the club has had major issues for a long time now and they have never been resolved as the end of season survival luck continued the hole got just bigger.
One of my knees is cattled, so need a new one. (That age) ;D
Hull away again same no idea whats going to happen.
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1-1 Draw after leading most of the game, 2 poor teams, a poor game.
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At home to Cardiff today, no idea or opinion as to what is going to happen
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2-1 loss and natives becoming restless and frustrated
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Away to Preston today could be fun - not.
Missed update on midweek match lost away to Ispwich 5 - 2.
Onwards and downwards ;D
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2 - 2 draw so a tad better, but not much.
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After the break QPR at home today, just have to see what happens
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Another poor 1-1 draw onwards and downwards ;D
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Away to Brentford today, just have to see what happens
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hoping my current relationship has as much staying power as kev in this thread
thanks for the updates pal
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3-3 Draw threw away 2 goal lead ah well.
Football is always a greater love than a woman and usually longer ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Bristol at home today, still clueless a bit like on the pitch really
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2-1 defeat natives are way past restless ;D
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Sorry missed posting 3-3 Draw with Bolton and 1 manager sacked, not a bad night really.
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Boro today, like the owner not a clue.
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very defensive team and 1-0 defeat, might get a new manager this week
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Sorry got waylaid on Saturday but a 2-2 draw which gave us another record, 1st team to go 20 League Games without a win. Yeepee ;D ;D ;D
Nearly forgot a new manager in Chris Coleman.
Away to Villa tonight so have to wait and see.
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2-1 defeat so no big deal as expected really
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Burton away today, might just keep on extending that record.
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Just when you expect them to extend that record they go and win 2-0, go figure ;D
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At home to Reading today so have to see how it goes.
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1-3 defeat with a man sent off for a needless handball, ah well onwards and downwards.
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Wolves away today so not expecting anything
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Well 0-0 draw a point more than expected so happy days
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dripping sarcasm
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No actually, brutal honesty
Fulham at home today just have to see what happens
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A 1-0 win, yes a win we have only waited 364 days since our last home win, typical Sunderland chick it in a day before our anniversary. ;D ;D ;D
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Birmingham at home today again wait and see.
Hope everybody has a good and safe Christmas, be good, if you can't be good be careful and if neither don't get caught, if you do deny everything.
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1-1 Draw so another point should of really been 3 as played against 10 men for last 20 minutes or so
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Big up to Kenwyn Jones..
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Sheffield away today, so again just wait and see
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3-0 defeat too much xmas pudding ;D
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A fortunate 1-0 win away at Forest has helped the points situation greatly, another win at home to Barnsley today would be more than welcome New Year present.
I hope everyone came through the holidays OK and all the best for a great 2018
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Normal service resumed a 1-0 defeat at home to Barnsley ah well.
Away to Cardiff today who are going well so don't expect to come away with anything
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Got waylaid 4-0 defeat with a soft sending off, may only of made a difference to the score not the result me thinks.
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Might be to late, but the obvious facts are, 1. y'all need to hire Yorke as coach 2. Hire a couple TTians with some decent, long term contracts. All our National players way better than 3 rd Division, pick anyone. Individually we can compete. Is the home Team football game where TTians have issue, with few exceptions, especially around Carnival time. :devil:
isn't it strange doh, that 2 of our most famous players both played at the 2 bottom table teams, in higher divisions. As a matter of fact, I think Stern put Birmingham up in premier. Some teams just need a Trini for luck and to not slide so much. We like winter tires. Yuh don't absolutely have to have, but when the weather get bad, good to have them on ;D
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Jesus April 1st already how time flies ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hull today who are as about tata as us so we will see.
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1-0 Win so all good this week at least
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Another defeat through the week at Brum, Ispwich at home today just have to see how it goes.
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Kev, yuh have to teach the guys here yuh timex secret.. takes a licking and keep on ticking.. TTians acting like we winning all the time, long long time..at least we win now and ..... then... Buh Sunderland FC is real tears .. a win deserve ah Town holiday and a Carnival jump up round the park at least ;)
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Just brought up thick, no secret. ;D
Been here before with them, so no big deal, might see another revival but shouldn't see another relapse. (not because it wont happen, i will but I wont be around).
Oh aye there was a match another week another defeat.
Never let the bastards grind you down.
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Away at Bristol today again have to see how it pans out.
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Bristol saved by the bell. 2 sequential wins and y’all might be able to crawl out the grave, if not the graveyard
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relegation from championship too! dam!
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relegation from championship too! dam!
Been there done that, actually 1st season I had a season ticket it was called 3rd Division them the ones above being 2nd and 1st. Despite reports the leagues in England didn't start when the premiership did 1992.
3 -3 draw very unlikely point after being 3-0 down at half time.
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Brentford at home today, no opinion really so we will see.
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2-0 defeat so a bit grim, good news not that many left, so every cloud.............. ;D
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A midweek game and an all too familiar defeat.
Today at home to Boro so wait and see.
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Away to Millwall today, as usual not a clue.
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Away to Millwall today, as usual not a clue.
they in 12th, you in 24th (last). I can give a hint, but the ball is round, it can roll any which way sometimes. With some Bent luck and a ballon wierd weather, it could go Sunderland way. :devil:
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A draw so not so bad, still last so still in the tata, not massively behind but being massively shite doesn't bode well. ;D
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Another regulation loss in midweek, QPR away today so who knows, what I do know its getting close to another drop and deservedly so
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Another 1-0 defeat another step closer.
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At home to Preston today, still no clue.
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Another week another regulation defeat.
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Missed Fridays at Derby game as waylaid elsewhere, maybe should do it more often as won 4-1 :applause:
Sheffield today continue the good work or return to form, your guess is as good as mine.
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Reverted to type no real surprise 3-1 defeat.
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Been away so missed last few games which were draws. Burton today so have to see, not looking great atm though. ;)
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Sunderland For Never.
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Sunderland For Never.
You’re pleasant.
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Sunderland For Never.
Always and forever see the biggest dickhead on here is back again.
League 1 or in old money (like me ;D ) Division 3, actually fond memories of last time we were there 1st season as a season ticket holder (wasn't the norm then) and enjoyed the away days, mud sliding etc. But too old for away days now. This "team" had it written all over them for a few seasons.
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Well last game of the season against Wolves. See what happens.
Not much happened the last week, the regulation defeat on Friday, club is changing ownership Short going but clearing club debt and manager gone. So normal week for us.
Struggled to understand Short really, he obviously was out of his depth as to be expected 1st couple of season, made some very poor decision, which I suspect were advised and then compounded them season on season, he never seemed to come to terms with it. He has just kept the club afloat and spent a fair chunk of his own money (very badly advised / personal appointments) in the process. If he has written off the debt fair play to him, because he didn't have to and certainly no doubt the club have been a thorn in his side for the last few years.
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Meaningless win in a meaningless game, sums up the club at the minute.
Roll on next season
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And you thought it was safe to go back into the water ;D ;D ;D ;D
Well welcome to league 1 or in proper money when I was a lad Division 3.
Been here before and it was a fresh start and good turnaround hope history repeats itself.
I know nothing about this league or the players we have signed apart from most are young, enthiusiastic and hungry so a massive change there then. New owners, new players here's hoping off to a good start.
At home to Charlton today, hope for a repeat of the playoff final game (one of best ever if not best ever) for exicitment but a better result.
Onwards and Upwards. :praying:
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Off to a winning start (albeit a bit last minute lucky) but 30,000 plus there so no so bad.
Away to Luton today, still haven't a clue couple of more signings this week, it will still take a few more weeks (at least) to settle down for new players manager etc. Hope for more of the same from last week while that happens.
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A 1-1 draw last week which was OK I suppose.
Today at home to Sc**thorpe so wait to see how it goes.
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4-1 win through the week and away to Wimbledon today so we will see.
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Another late winner last week and at home to Oxford today wait and see.
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Draw last week playing with 10 men for two thirds of the match, got a tad lucky.
Fleetwood at home today so we will see.
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seems like y'all finally putting together a turnaround. jinx.
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Away to Burton today see what goes on.
seems like y'all finally putting together a turnaround. jinx.
Its like a pub league truth be told and we have scraped a couple of results.
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Away to Burton today see what goes on.
seems like y'all finally putting together a turnaround. jinx.
Burn the witch :D
Lost last week, got away with a couple of times but catches you in the end.
Rochdale at home to day we'll see what happens
Its like a pub league truth be told and we have scraped a couple of results.
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A nice win last week so alls good again, well upto today.
Away to Coventry, the home of the now deceased big chinned cheating scumbag known as Jimmy Hill. A win is a must really given the history.
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2 Draws this week, couldn't beat the cheating scum Coventry.
Away to Bradford today, a nice old club, see what happens.
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You all need to give Yorkie a try as a Manager. Can't be worse than Di Canio
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On you wag you .
Been away 3 wins since away to Plymouth today, plodding along as always
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time for me to give the goat mouth again. Good run S'land!
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Cup game last week at home to Wycombe Wanderers this week.
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A couple of Cup games and a midweek match won 4-2.
Today Accrington Stanley see what happens
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Been side tracked nothing much happened really the above match was abandoned with 15 minutes or so to go because of water logged pitch.
A FA Cup defeat
A couple of wins and a draw.
A sending off ( 6 or 7 this season, 1 rescinded)
A Defeat.
A crowd slightly over 46,000 for Boxing day, not bad for old 3rd division.
Hope everybody had a good Christmas.
All the best for 2019.
Take care New Years Eve, Be Good, if you can't be good, Be Careful, if you can do neither, Don't Get Caught.
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They have a decent series on NetFlix.
https://www.netflix.com/title/80207046
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A draw away at Charlton yesterday so not so bad
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Last week another sending off and another draw. 8th or 9th sending this season and the 2nd one in a row to be rescinded. The standard of refereeing is worse than the football and thats saying something.
Another draw (undeserved) this weekend so same old same old
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A 1-0 win against Wimbledon yesterday, couple of new players a couple of games in hand still in contention for promotion
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I haven't been on for years... but is league one sunderland in now??!! ;D :devil:
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Aye
Another week another 2 draws. Seems like a pattern