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Title: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on January 31, 2007, 02:48:17 PM
In the context of so many young, well intentioned, but under-informed posters who feel overwhelmed by Jack Warner's destruction of the few heroes in our society (our Warriors), I thought that a thread that is educational about Jack Warner would be useful. Meant to address allegations about him, his profile, his source of power, his hidden backers, his source of apparent teflon and his unknown vulnerabilities. Also welcome are ideas that can offer constructive strategies to minimize his damaging actions and manipulative measures, to democratically remove him and his cronies, empower the T&T people he exploits, protect the footballers that he persecutes and give people, business, NGOs more confidence to lobby/agitate for his removal. There is also a need for him/TTFF to account for monies that have allegedly been stolen by Jackula/TTFF from the country/players. It is thought by some, that he is completely untouchable and that it is futile trying to confront him. I'm not too sure I buy that. It's also thought that his whip of persecution and vengeance is so potent that it is advisable to run from him. I don't buy that either. I think it's time to be more analytical.  :beermug:
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FIFA chief's World Cup ticket scam
Sunday, September 17, 2006
The Sports Policy Blog

http://sportspolicy.blogspot.com/2006/09/fifa-chiefs-world-cup-ticket-scam.html

Here is a portion of an article from: http://www.intix.org/news.php?ArticleID=2360

One of FIFA’s most senior figures secretly set up deals to sell thousands of World Cup tickets worth millions of pounds — including 900 destined for England fans — on the black market, Sportsmail can reveal.

Vice-president Jack Warner flagrantly defied FIFA’s rules, but confidential auditors’ reports exposing his activities before and during the tournament have been suppressed. Sportsmail has acquired the confidential reports produced for FIFA by auditors Ernst & Young revealing how Warner was allowed to amass a fortune trading in tickets for Germany 2006.

One report estimated he and son Daryan cleared a profit of at least £500,000 on 5,400 tickets for England, Mexico and Japan matches The lenient treatment of Warner — who controls 35 crucial votes that keep FIFA president Sepp Blatter in power — contrasts starkly with the fate of fellow executive committee member Ismail Bhamjee in June.

‘Every ticket on the black market is a ticket that has been initially supplied by FIFA to someoneONE of FIFA’s most senior figures secretly set up deals to sell thousands of World Cup tickets worth millions of pounds — including 900 destined for England fans — on the black market, Sportsmail can reveal.

Sportsmail has acquired the confidential reports produced for FIFA by auditors Ernst & Young revealing how Warner was allowed to amass a fortune trading in tickets for Germany 2006. One report estimated he and son Daryan cleared a profit of at least £500,000 on 5,400 tickets for England, Mexico and Japan matches.

The huge volume of tickets demanded by Warner rang alarm bells in FIFA’s ticket office and a further Ernst & Young report submitted on July 8 to FIFA listed another 292 tickets ordered and paid for by Warner Snr, then resold at huge profits.

They concluded: ‘Tickets (bought by) Jack Warner were transferred or resold into the secondary market in breach of 2006 World Cup ticketing general terms and conditions.’ Yet again FIFA did not act. Warner Snr submitted a further demand for an astonishing 1,245 tickets for second-round matches. It was not fulfilled.

Four years ago Sportsmail alleged that Warner Snr had made a $350,000 profit selling World Cup tickets in 2002. Last night, FIFA spokesman Andreas Herren declined to reveal how many tickets Warner Snr ordered or received or explain why the audit reports had been kept secret for so long. Herren claimed the matter would be discussed at this Friday’s executive committee meeting in Zurich at the request of Jack Warner — although there is no mention of it on the agenda published last week.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on January 31, 2007, 02:55:16 PM
Fifa to appoint British watchdog to safeguard international ethics
Friday September 15, 2006
Martyn Ziegler, The Guardian

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...872921,00.html


Fifa will today announce that a Briton is to head the world governing body's first independent watchdog - and his first task will be to deal with the World Cup ticket scandal that has engulfed the vice-president Jack Warner.

The name of the chairman of the independent ethics commission will be announced by Fifa's president Sepp Blatter in Zurich. The appointment of the high-profile figure is aimed to show that Fifa has embraced transparency after years of criticism that their old internal ethics committee was toothless.

The timing is not good for Warner, a Fifa vice-president from Trinidad & Tobago, who this week was revealed to have been identified by Fifa's auditors as being involved in a World Cup ticket scandal.

Warner has been embroiled in similar situations before but until now has always kept his position because under Fifa's statutes only his confederation can remove him - not Blatter and not his fellow executive committee members.

As Warner effectively controls the Concacaf federation, his position has until now been invulnerable, but all that could be set to change. One Fifa insider said: "The idea is that the new ethics commission is both independent and has teeth."

The auditors Ernst & Young traced numerous World Cup tickets bought by Warner as having been quickly resold through a Florida-based agency at up to three times their face value.In their confidential report to Fifa, the accountants say: "We can confirm that tickets included in orders under customer reference 201498572 [Mr Jack Warner] were transferred or resold into the secondary market in breach of the 2006 Fifa World Cup Germany ticketing general terms and conditions."

Warner escaped censure in March despite Fifa's ruling that he was guilty of a clear conflict of interest. Warner, a special adviser to the Trinidad & Tobago FA, broke the code of conduct after his family's travel company, Simpaul, secured exclusive rights to sell his country's entire World Cup ticket allocation.

Warner told Fifa that he and his wife had sold their shares in Simpaul and had no idea he had violated any rules. In the 1980s and 90s Warner obtained Fifa's TV rights for the Caribbean for a pittance and then sold them on to broadcasters.

Meanwhile, the Uefa president Lennart Johansson, also a Fifa vice-president, has called for tougher rules to regulate football agents and club ownership. He said: "We should be concerned about the situation with agents, bribery, illegal betting, racism and hooliganism."


http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...872921,00.html
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Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on January 31, 2007, 03:06:41 PM
Fifa vice-president escapes action over ticket scandal
Published: 07 December 2006
By Martyn Ziegler, The Independent  

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/news/article2054513.ece


Jack Warner, one of Fifa's most senior and controversial figures, has been reprimanded after being involved in a World Cup ticket scandal - but has escaped any disciplinary action.

Fifa's executive committee expressed their "disapproval" at the behaviour of Warner, a Fifa vice-president from Trinidad & Tobago. Warner was identified in a report by auditors Ernst & Young as having bought World Cup tickets which were then re-sold at up to three times their face value. A Fifa investigation found Warner's son Daryan was involved in the scandal but that there was "no concrete evidence" that the vice-president himself had played an active role.

Sepp Blatter, the Fifa president, said: "The executive committee has expressed its disapproval over the conduct of Mr Warner. This disapproval of the conduct of the vice-president draws his attention to the fact that he should be more prudent and cautious when it comes to ticketing and should also oversee the activities of his son a little more. That is all there is to say in relation to this affair and we now consider the case closed." Blatter said it would be up to the Fifa administration whether the Warner family's Simpaul travel agency would be allowed to sell tickets for future World Cups.

In their report to Fifa which was leaked, Ernst & Young said the tickets were bought in Warner's name and then picked up by Daryan in Germany before they were bought from ticket agency Kick Sports for €400 (£270) apiece - collectively €54,000 (£37,000) more than face value.

Fifa's disciplinary committee also rejected complaints from Warner about the behaviour of the world governing body's general secretary Urs Linsi, Fifa's administration, and Ernst & Young regarding the case.

Warner has been embroiled in similar situations before but under Fifa's statutes only his confederation can remove him - not Blatter and not his fellow executive committee members. As Warner effectively controls CONCACAF, the North and Central American and Caribbean football federation, his position has until now been invulnerable.

In the future, similar scandals may have different results as the new Fifa ethics commission, headed by Lord Sebastian Coe, will be given considerable powers to take action.

Warner escaped censure in March despite Fifa's ruling that he was guilty of a clear conflict of interest when Simpaul secured exclusive rights to sell Trinidad's entire World Cup ticket allocation. Warner told Fifa that he and his wife had sold their shares in Simpaul and had no idea he had violated any rules. In the 1980s and 1990s, Warner obtained Fifa's television rights for the Caribbean for a low price and then controversially sold them on to broadcasters.

* Uefa's executive committee will reconsider Gibraltar's controversial request for Uefa membership this week in the face of opposition from the Spanish FA. The committee had been expected to approve their membership last month but delayed a decision after the Spanish FA submitted new documents.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on January 31, 2007, 04:05:13 PM
FIFA's 'Republic of cousins'
Monday, August 07, 2006

http://mofyc.blogspot.com/2006/08/fifas-republic-of-cousins.html


Soccer is one of the most lucrative parts of the entertainment industry in the world. Just to give you a tiny idea of how much money is involved, US broadcasters recently paid $425 million just for the rights to air six month-long tournaments, the overwhelmingly majority of which was for only two (the 2010 and 2014 men's World Cups). And that's just the broadcast rights for one country, a country where soccer is hardly the biggest thing on the sport radar screen.

Yet for an industry with so much money involved, there sure are a lot of shady dealings.

Take the case of the Trinidadian Jack Warner. Warner is the president of CONCACAF, the regional confederation that governs (if you can call it that) soccer in North and Central America and the Caribbean. He is also a vice-president for the international soccer federation FIFA. As such, he was instrumental in seeing his home country awarded the 2001 World Youth Championships. According to The Trinidad Express, Warner was allegedly involved in some curious business practices surrounding stadium construction and renovations for the tournament.

The paper reports that along with some partners, Warner formed a company called Concacaf, which conveniently had the same acronym as the confederation he heads but for a different purpose: to arrange stadium construction and renovation. The budget for the projects skyrocketed more than 2 1/2 fold after the involvement of Concacaf (the company). The Trinidad and Tobago government is still repaying the loan, having been a guarantor. Subcontractors have complained that Concacaf (the company) has demanded they pay an extra two and a half percent for the development of Trinidad and Tobago's national soccer team. They were told in writing that they would not get contracts in the future if they failed to comply.

Warner has also been found guilty of violating FIFA's code of ethics (snicker) because of his involvement with a travel agency that sold tickets to this year's World Cup in Germany.

That story was also broken by The Trinidad Express as well as a report that Warner was misrepresenting the amount that the Trinidad and Tobago soccer federation would receive for qualifying for the recent World Cup.

As for the reporter who broke all of these stories, Warner tried to deny him accreditation to cover to World Cup, but FIFA overruled him.

This sort of greed and ethically challenged 'leadership' is why the Gold Cup, the most prestigious tournament in CONCACAF (the confederation), is not available on free television in English in the United States. This is why American TV viewers can watch Deportivo Quito try to win the Ecuadorian league or Trabzonspor's quest for the UEFA Cup but not the US national team's attempts to win North America's continental championship.

After such embarassment, you'd think the international governing body would try maintain at least the appearance of propriety. Yet, The International Herald Tribune reports that of all the people who could've been chosen to head a Swiss company that trades in soccer's lucrative broadcasting rights, the 'best' person they could find for the job was none other than Philippe Blatter... son of FIFA's Swiss president Sepp Blatter.
The elder Blatter insisted that his son's position would not affect FIFA's business relationship with the company.

I'm sure the company only hired the younger Blatter because he dressed well.

You'd think the international federation's code of ethics (snicker) would ban dealings between FIFA and companies run by employees of FIFA or their relatives. But apparently not. This incestuous culture in the world's most popular sport has led one German writer to deride the federation's mindset as a 'Republic of cousins.'

FIFA's motto is 'For the good of the game.' Perhaps they mean 'For the good of the lords of the game.'

Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on January 31, 2007, 04:17:13 PM
FIFA to Avoid Legal Battle
Friday, January 19, 2007

http://EzineArticles.com/?expert=Nigel_Kerry
 

FIFA vice-president Jack Warner will very likely drop his planned legal action against the authors of a report and some FIFA officials.

A report conducted by the auditors of FIFA, Ernst and Young, alleged that Trinidadian Warner and his son had been involved in World Cup ticketing scams. By abandoning his intentions to sue FIFA will escape an embarrassing public affair.

According to the report he and his family are accused of selling World Cup tickets for much more than face value. The report linked the company Simpaul Travel, run by Warner's son Daryan, to thousands of tickets for games involving England, Trinidad and Tobago, Mexico and Japan at the World Cup. The Ernst & Young report shows 900 tickets for England matches, 1,500 for Mexico games and 3,000 for Japan were obtained by the Warners and sold through the travel company which had exclusive rights in the Caribbean to ticket- and-hotel packages worth more than $1 million.

Another report conducted by a lawyer, Collins, accused Ernst and Young of containing incomplete information and drawing false conclusions. Warner wanted to use the Collins report to sue. Finally he accepted to stop his legal action according to a compromise found with FIFA representative. Warner will let FIFA's internal disciplinary committee decide the matter.

Nigel Kerry is an American free lance writer born in Los Angeles, California. Kerry writes among others for Sportus.com - Sportsbook reviews, UsBookies.com - Sports Betting Online and Get-best-mortgage-loan.com - Mortgage lenders, get the best mortgage loan

Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on January 31, 2007, 04:36:25 PM
Accusations Link FIFA President Sepp Blatter’s Election With Corruption Scandal Involving CONCACAF’s Jack Warner
June 12th, 2006  

http://gerakmalaysia.org/web/?p=131


According to a BBC’s Panorama, credible evidence link FIFA president Sepp Blatter’s election with vote corruption. The programe is revealing a widespread corruption case in which huge sums exchanged hands.

According to the programe, CONCACAF Football Executive and FIFA Vice-President Jack Austin Warner took huge bribes in return for the votes of 30 Football Associations he controls.

BBC’s Andrew Jennings has been intentionally banned by FIFA from all FIFA press conferences and FIFA venues, such as the World Cup.

The officials from the World Football’s “Governing Body” do not comment on the allegations and with silly excuses they constantly change the subject. This comes after a series of allegations were made the past few years, but which mr Blatter has declined to say anything when asked by reporters, an attitude which looks very suspicious to many press representatives, including us. The news could spell big trouble for FIFA, especially while we are in the first few days of the World Cup 2006 in Germany.

The allegations provide evidence that the so called “Football Development” programmes of FIFA in African and other developing countries are operated as a cover-up for a multi million (possibly billion) dollar buyout of votes from the CONCACAF confederation. There are many decisions of FIFA in the past which have caused controversy and several measures to maximise the earnings of FIFA’s tournaments. Although FIFA says that this money is used to develop football in poor counties, it is people like Jack Warner that enjoy a lavish life in Trinidad & Tobago, while the country’s youth lack even the basic facilities to learn football.

Authorities in Switzerland, although did not confirm towards which individual their investigation about a particular bribing case which involved a payment of over one million pounds (sterling) which was pocketed by FIFA officials in order to favour particular sponsors for the World Cup.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on January 31, 2007, 05:47:25 PM
THE SIMPAUL SAGA: FIFA VICE PRESIDENT
CAUGHT WITH HIS HAND IN THE TILL
Nov 6, 2006
By: Lasana Liburd

http://www.playthegame.org/blog/sitecore/content/Home/Knowledge%20Bank/Articles/The_Simpaul_saga.aspx

 
Trinidad Express journalist Lasana Liburd looks back on an investigative World Cup ticket story that shook FIFA

On December 13, 2005, FIFA vice-president Jack Warner announced at a press conference that Simpaul’s Travel Service had paid the T&TFF TT$.5 million (63,860 Euro) to be the official World Cup ticket distributor for the 2006 World Cup.

Warner is the T&TFF’s special advisor—an ambiguous position he created for himself with the cooperation of compliant president Oliver Camps. Camps was twice employed as national team manager while Warner was general secretary of the local football organizing body and always allows his former boss to make important announcements as well as speak last at functions.

I did not attend that particular press conference but my head whirred once the news went public. The ownership of Simpaul’s had long been subject to a whispering campaign as the company was clearly a preferred business partner of the T&TFF. But there had never been an inquest.

A thousand excuses could be offered for the failure of the media to shine light into such areas. The truth is that conflicts of interest are not uncommon in Trinidad and Tobago society. In football, though, I felt that the 63-year-old Warner made it into a mission statement.
 
Trinidad Express reporter, Lasana Liburd, was subjected to personal attacks by Jack Warner, when he dug into the ticket scandal

Warner is the T&TFF’s special advisor—an ambiguous position he created for himself with the cooperation of compliant president Oliver Camps. Camps was twice employed as national team manager while Warner was general secretary of the local football organizing body and always allows his former boss to make important announcements as well as speak last at functions.

I did not attend that particular press conference but my head whirred once the news went public. The ownership of Simpaul’s had long been subject to a whispering campaign as the company was clearly a preferred business partner of the T&TFF. But there had never been an inquest.

A thousand excuses could be offered for the failure of the media to shine light into such areas. The truth is that conflicts of interest are not uncommon in Trinidad and Tobago society. In football, though, I felt that the 63-year-old Warner made it into a mission statement.

When Trinidad and Tobago hosted the 2001 FIFA World Youth Championship, for instance, Warner and his immediate family benefited with multi-million dollar contracts for everything from catering and IT to travel packages and construction.

There were audible grumbles but Warner bullied critics into submission. Their envy, he suggested, might be heard in Zurich and then FIFA would surely be upset and take football back from the tiny twin-island republic of just over 1.2 million people.

To prove his point, FIFA president Sepp Blatter turned up and seemed indifferent to the allegations of corruption. The general public decided, one sensed, that Warner’s opulence did not make them poorer and normal service resumed.

"Ticket or leave it!"
Fast forward to November 2005. Trinidad and Tobago was in raptures at the team’s historic qualification for the World Cup final. A sea of fans in red and white dress awaited the team at the PiarcoInternationalAirport after the decisive win over Bahrain on November 16.

Goodwill and gratitude washed over everything loosely related to the self-titled “Soca Warriors” including the controversial and enigmatic Warner. Trinidad and Tobago was dreaming of a brighter future and prepared to forgive to achieve it.

How did Warner respond to his sudden popularity boost in his homeland?

First, he asked the local government for a “blank cheque”—to help the team’s preparation, of course.  I responded negatively to his request in an editorial, in firm but respectful tones, and so did the government.

Then came the Simpaul saga and an announcement from the travel agency that anyone who wished to see T&T play in Germany would have to pay TT$30,000 (3,832 Euro) for the privilege.

“Ticket or leave it!” screamed the advertisements.
 
I knew then that a wolf could never become a vegetarian. And, as a journalist, I would do my duty by allowing the general public access to information that was denied them. 

Three-part series exposed Warner's ownership of Simpaul
At this point, I began work on a three-part series that would not only prove the ownership of Simpaul but also scrutinize the relationship between the T&TFF and Warner and the way it impacted on the country and local football.

The first signs of dissent were beginning to be manifest by the odd complaint casting aspersions on Simpaul’s ownership in the letters pages of the Trinidad Express Newspaper.

The first part of my series made front-page news on Christmas morning. The trickle of disapproving letters about Warner’s conduct turned into tide of outrage by the New Year. This time, Warner’s actions affected the public directly and they took the opportunity to vent.

On the street, I was congratulated for my bravery but warned of the backlash. I was fully aware of the possible repercussions. 

Before my first story was published, a former editor, who I respect very much, advised me not to go through with it for fear that I would be denied accreditation for the World Cup. My career needed the fillip of writing from the prestigious tournament while, he reasoned, the gains from such a piece would be minimal at best. FIFA officials, he explained, are not dictated to by the conscience of individual journalists.

I retorted that I would rather watch the World Cup on television than be untrue to myself.

The investigative series was not written to bring attention to myself or for money—I asked for no more than my usual freelance rate. It was done out of professional pride. Warner did what he felt he could and I responded by doing what I felt was my obligation to the profession.

The word was out that Simpaul’s sales had slowed considerably. Naturally, I was pleased although more for my countrymen than myself. I was happy that they were making themselves heard in the only way they could. 

Warner must respond now. I expected him to tell the public that Simpaul’s prices—Warner would pocket near TT$16,000 (2,044 Euro) profit per package sold—were an error and make a concession to satisfy fans who wanted to go to Germany; not protest. He would then, I felt, mock my series as a gross exaggeration and then matter would be closed.

I would view as success any change in the price and manner in which tickets allocated by FIFA forTrinidad and Tobago fans actually reached them.

Attack by press conference
On January 3, the T&TFF staged a press conference without giving any particulars about its content. I turned up early to face the consequences head on and, sensing that something was up, the entire local media as well as some regional wire services showed up as well.

Warner barely finished acknowledging the audience before he slung his first barb at me. Forty-five minutes later, Warner was still talking and I was the focal point. I was called everything from “a creature” to “an inveterate liar” and “political hatchet man” while derogatory references were made towards all from my schooling to my patriotism.

I giggled at first. Stunned by the ferociousness and immaturity of the attack and its glaring inaccuracies and untruths.

Much of the local media, I sensed, smirked in their seats. There are just three local newspapers. At the Trinidad Guardian, sport editor Valentino Singh wrote Warner’s first biography and was already working on the second. The FIFA bigwig had similarly cosy relations, I felt, with many of my compatriots. 

I would be lying if I did not admit to looking around the room with disgust although there were brave and probing questions too from a few fellow reporters.
 
Warner, after a 50-minute rant, offered the press just 15 minutes to pose questions. I wanted to correct the inaccuracies regarding my person but decided to avoid making the issue a personal one. I felt he had not adequately addressed the concerns expressed in my series.

Was he not abusing his power and bringing FIFA and the T&TFF into disrepute? Why were Trinidad and Tobago fans being charged so much?

Warner thundered that he not abused his power and even suggested the T&TFF was the real winner by having a business partner who could appreciate and sympathise with its problems. As for Simpaul’s purchase of the country’s World Cup tickets, he assured me the company had done similar business for the last three successive World Cup tournaments.

As far as confessions went, I felt that would do quite nicely.

Curiously, Warner also claimed that Simpaul had not received a single ticket from the T&TFF as yet and did not even know how many would be allocated. He insisted that the tickets Simpaul had already sold were purchased from a mysterious “European tour operator”.

I had another question. Why, as he claimed, would FIFA allow Germany, as the host nation, to tax 21 percent of income owed to all football associations at the tournament?

“Jesus Christ!” Warner shouted, in mock exasperation at a question too stupid to possibly respond to.

The press conference was promptly brought to a close.

In the following day’s paper, I responded to his personal attacks in roughly two paragraphs but again sought Warner’s indulgence in responding to the more serious points that were raised. It is a stance I tried to maintain throughout.

The whole world gets involved
There was one change to the climate. The international media had caught wind of the stink. In Trinidad, only one daily paper—my own—followed the story as fellow columnists showed their solidarity in the face of Warner’s attacks while our counterparts turned their backs. Now global reporters were doing their own calculations and Warner’s maneuvering space had shrunk.

Ten days after the infamous press conference, FIFA announced that Ernst & Young would act as independent auditors to investigate possible misconduct in World Cup ticket sales. On February 16, Warner appeared before the FIFA Ethics and Fair Play Committee to answer to a charge of conflict of interest.

I might have been more popular but my personal situation had worsened. My employers, CCN, owned the television rights for the 2006 World Cup and Warner openly hinted that their future business with CONCACAF—he is also president of the confederation—could be in jeopardy if they continued to employ me.  

I was also denied the right to apply for accreditation for the World Cup. I was, according to the T&TFF press officer, now deemed “persona non grata” by FIFA.

Harder for me to swallow was the intense mocking that came my way from several sections of the local media who tried to paint me as unpatriotic for supposedly trying to get a fellow countryman in trouble. Never mind that the countryman in question, to my mind, was attempting to rob his own people.

I was still writing, though. One by one, I tried to hold up his public uttering for scrutiny.

There was, for instance, no Germany taxation on money paid to the 32 participating associations in the World Cup while the T&TFF were already informed of its ticket quota. Simpaul’s package deal was also declared illegal by FIFA. Simpaul also admitted to selling nearly 2,000 tickets provided by the T&TFF.

By now, my work was greatly assisted by media colleagues from England and Germany while I was grateful to support from many other organizations including “Play the Game”.

It was the encouragement from my foreign counterparts that prompted me to seek out official response from FIFA on my “blacklisting”  after initially resigning myself to the cost of my belligerence. FIFA media chief, Andreas Herren, righted that wrong by accrediting me as an international journalist.

Even more, the Ethics and Fair Play Committee found Warner guilty of a conflict of interest. He was the first FIFA executive committee member to be convicted of anything and I suddenly felt that the world was not all doom and gloom.

Perhaps there was justice in the football corridors after all.

It turned out to be wishful thinking.
 
Ticket prices went down but Warner is safe
A Trinidad and Tobago government minister, enthused by the possibility to be rid of a political enemy and thorn, produced documentation that suggested an extraordinary act of fraud.

In 1999, Warner created a company called “Concacaf”—not to be mistaken with FIFA’s CONCACAF—and used it to acquire $365 million (46.6 million Euro) in State funds under the pretext that FIFA was personally involved with the construction of stadia for the World Youth Championship in Trinidad and Tobago.

Warner formed another company called “FIFA Stadia Project” to hire contractors and he and his son, Daryan Warner, acted as signatories. Warner even paid himself a $6 million (766,320 Euro) consultancy fee for his troubles.  

Open and shut case, I thought. But FIFA’s responses to my e-mails grew quite tense and I was told in no uncertain terms that they were not interested in pursuing the matter. I was told that my queries should be directed towards the 2001 World Youth Cup Local Organising Committee (LOC) instead.

The LOC chairman was, if no-one could guess, Warner himself.

The tide was turning.

On March 17, FIFA confirmed my fear. Warner emerged unscathed from a Zurich meeting meant to find an appropriate punishment for his indiscretion. Warner got no more than a warning and was commended for correcting the problem himself.

Prior to the meeting, Warner had his name legally removed from the list of directors at Simpaul’s Travel. There was no evidence to suggest that he had similarly sold his shares though

Warner viewed it as a victory and another sign of his superiority and promptly celebrated by putting full page advertisements in the local newspapers trumpeting his innocence and mocking certain cynics “masquerading as sport writers”.

I wonder who he meant?

By now, though, the public was allowed to purchase tickets at virtually cost price without being forced to accept Simpaul’s package while even rival travel companies got a piece of the action.

In spite of his subsequent acquittal, I felt Warner was shown to be less of a monarch and more of a bully. His stature was no longer quite as intimidating either. I had not been crushed and I have no intention of falling under anyone’s heel in the future either.

I prefer to dwell on the positive side of the saga. I had a nagging fear that the scandal might impact negatively on my country and the region by establishing a stigma of naked corruption. It is far from the truth, particularly in sport where adrenalin and high stakes often cause men and women to betray their own nature.

Cricket batting sensation, Brian Lara, is famous for ending his innings when he knows himself to be out—regardless of whether the umpire spotted his infraction. Football star and team captain Dwight Yorke never tries to con referees or get fellow professionals ejected. And sprint success and Olympic medallist, Ato Boldon, never degraded the many athletes he defeated not the few who flew past him.

In Warner’s case, the international public should note that his unscrupulous deeds were first exposed and condemned by his countrymen before the world governing football body gave him a lifeline.

The last year was a giddy ride between celebrating Trinidad and Tobago’s success on the field and then exposing the behaviour of its officials off it.

I would do it all over again in a flash. But I pray to God I will never have to.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: weary1969 on January 31, 2007, 05:57:28 PM
The key to cancer is early detection and it too long for us now tryin to address Jack. It will take a revolution in football where everybody under 0 to decide that they have had enough and eh go play until the TTFF goes under new management. That eh go happen so the most we can hold with this cancer is remission.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: kounty on January 31, 2007, 06:04:24 PM
The key to cancer is early detection and it too long for us now tryin to address Jack. It will take a revolution in football where everybody under 0 to decide that they have had enough and eh go play until the TTFF goes under new management. That eh go happen so the most we can hold with this cancer is remission.
brudder, you know when men give up hope.  Thaz how I feel with Jack.  I feel like nothing I or we or the play7ers could do to ever get rid of he.  IS like the rpisoners in guantanomo bay...no access to lawyers, breaking geneva conventions by use to semantics...hurt my heart every day but  anything I could do to bring it to an end?  or the crime situation in trinidad.
sometimes I does feel like some things just too big.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on January 31, 2007, 06:08:27 PM
Understand how yuh feel bounty. Dais how an abuser makes an abusee feel.......hopeless. Btw, weary is not really a brudder,..... if y'understand where ah comin' from.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on January 31, 2007, 09:42:35 PM
Interesting: (view as html)  :thinking: :waiting: :thinking: :shameonyou: :nailbiting:
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:lYwtbHDoE1EJ:www.transparencyinsport.org/downloads/files/april11.pdf+Warner+Group+of+Companies+in+Trinidad+and+Tobago&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=104&gl=us
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on January 31, 2007, 10:28:09 PM
THE HOUSE THAT JACK BUILT
FROM 'VILLAIN' TO GODFATHER, FIFA VICE-PRESIDENT, AUSTIN JACK WARNER TURNS MISFORTUNE INTO DOLLARS
January 13, 2000
By Camille Moreno, Business Guardian



Page 1

In the international football community, Austin "Jack" Warner is well known as a shrewd and tough administrator.

But for many others, particularly the players of the popular sport, Warner is a godfather who steps in and helps them out in their hour of need.

Such was the case last Friday when a footballer, fearful of losing his car which had been repossessed by a bank, caught up with Warner at the local Concacaf offices in Port of Spain.

It was by chance that the ever-busy football federation president turned up for work that day.  He had returned two nights earlier from Germany for a brief stopover before heading out on Monday to Brazil where the Fifa World Club Championships are being played Monday.

Preoccupied with last Saturday's friendly match between the senior national squad and Canada, as well as the launching of Carnival 2000 celebrations in his Arouca hometown the next day, Warner seemed a bit perplexed by the distressed young man's arrival at this offices.

Rather than wave him off with the excuse of a tight schedule, the 56 year-old Fifa vice-president ushered the contrite lad into his office and immediately got on the phone with the bankers.

"What would you have done if I weren't here?" chided Warner, sounding like a schoolteacher once again.

"Sorry sir, sorry sir!" replied the player, as if he were indeed a pupil in one of Warner's former classes.

And as quickly as he came in the grateful footballer was soon on his way out to the bank, hopefully to retrieve his car, after Warner arranged to a guarantee for his outstanding payments.

The gesture is an act, which the retired teacher of Polytechnic Institute, also known as Sixth Form Government Secondary, would perform for anyone once he had "the means to help".

That's why when Miss Universe 1998 Wendy Fitzwilliam was desperately seeking a sponsor for the trip to the international pageant in Hawaii, Warner quietly bought her a first class ticket.

Fitzwilliam, however, spilled the beans about his generosity.

"I have personally given away as much as $25,000 in a month once.  But I don't run here and there to pose for pictures of me making a donation.  It makes what I do seem less genuine," Warner admits cautiously.

That he is always wiling to lend a helping hand to youths stems from Warner's own struggles growing up in Rio Claro and Longdenville, Chaguanas.

Indeed, his own ascendancy to the millionaires club was not an easy climb for the Fifa executive who once cut cane in Central Trinidad to help out at home.

"We were poor, very poor.  I used to cut cane, look after pigs, and walk six miles to and from school.  Those were tough times," recalls the Presentation College, Chaguanas graduate.

The worn-out garb he wore in the fields is a far cry from the tailored three-piece suits Warner sports today.

Placing his personal worth in the $50 million range, the father of two is not shy about the "ultra-fantastic" paychecks he receives as Fifa vice-president, a position he assumed in 1997.

It, too, is a long way from his earnings as a teacher and general secretary of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA).

Ever ready to dip into his own pocket for the sake of football, Warner once mortgaged his Arouca home for $30,000 to bail out the former cash-strapped TTFA.

With such financial woes a thing of the past, Warner's current assets include the football club, Joe Public, the Scarlet Ibis hotel, real estate in Port of Spain, Westmoorings, St Augustine, Arouca and Salybia.  Also among his investments are a battery company in Costa Rica and "a few businesses" in the United States (US).

"I began buying properties across Trinidad from the salary and allowances I received from FIFA.  This made it easy for me to invest.  I have had one or two good fortunes."

Apart from a solid-gold letter opener, a gift from King Fahd of Saudi Arabia, Warner's most-prized fortune is Joe Public of which his wife Maureen and sons Daryan and Daryll are directors.

Ameer Edoo, executive chairman of WISE, the brokerage firm, and businessmen Peter Stone, Anand Persad and Curtis Forde round off the football club's board.

As owner of the only non-corporate sponsored team in the Professional Football League, Warner provides handsomely for his players, whose salaries range from $1,800 to $8,000 complete with insurance coverage and bonus benefits.

On the real estate front, the one-time president of the Caribbean Football Union (a position which gave him an automatic seat on the Fifa council prior to his vice-presidency) is currently remodeling the Scarlet Ibis hotel in St Augustine, which he bought in 1998 for $6 million.

Although he previously planned to use the 52-room structure to accommodate visiting football teams - a vision he also had for the controversial John John Towers for which he once made a $6 million bid - Warner has since decided to turn the hotel into an apartment block.

A multi-storey plaza is also being built next door on the hotel's car park, which the entrepreneur hopes to name "Shoppes of St Augustine".

In his adopted hometown of Arouca, Warner also owns and runs a small shopping mall, Kantac Plaza, and recently bought additional lands, which will be turned into a "Carnival City" for the eastern community's 2000 celebrations.

Warner's astute investments did not stop there.

Among the newest additions to Warner's real estate portfolio is a property in uptown Port of Spain, situated next door to his building on Edward Street, which he rents to Concacaf for its Trinidad offices.  He plans to share the additional space with the TTFA.

The list goes on and on and includes a local warehouse that he bought to store the gifts he had received from 129 countries.

Given his affluence, it seems Warner always had a flair for business.

But after more than 20 years as  a teacher (he retired from Polytechnic in 1993) and football administrator, Austin "Jack" Warner the businessman only came to the fore after the infamous Strike Squad November 19, 1989 loss in the World Cup qualifier against the US.

The defeat, which left Warner a broken man, turned out to be a blessing in disguise.

"When we lost I was vilified by the country.  I cried like a baby during that experience.  So that in April 1990 I thought I should leave the country because people outside were asking me to come and take over Concacaf.  It was then that Jack Warner, the businessman, began to emerge."

Pushed by Chuck Blazer, a New York accountant and businessman, Warner went up for the Concacaf presidency.

The hard-worn battle against Mexican, Joachim Terrazas, who ruled Concacaf for close to 30 years, was only the beginning of what turned out to be a bigger financial conflict for Warner.

"When I got into Concacaf, I met an organisation in Guatemala City that had been there for over 30 years and which was virtually bankrupt with a table, eight chairs and US $40,000."

But with Blazer at his side as Concacaf general secretary, Warner turned the struggling organisation into a US $4 million enterprise in just two years.

He did so by moving the football confederation to the financial capital of the world - New York.

There, Warner and his Concacaf team, courted some of the top US corporations, among them international soft drink giant, Coca Cola, American Airlines and Budweiser.

"I was able to sit in the boardrooms of these guys and talk one and one with them and so I was able to get certain benefits from them for Concacaf."

Drawing on his own diplomatic skills, hones in the classroom and in countless football meetings, Warner charmed leading US businessmen, among them real estate magnate Donald Trump, who gave Concacaf a ten-year-lease on an entire floor at Trump Towers in Manhattan.

The first year was free and as an added bonus Trump gave the football organisation the right to sublet.

That Fifa had named the US as the host country for the 1994 World Cup turned out to be just the extra luck Warner needed.

Indeed from as early as the 1986 World Cup, the Rio Claro-born native knew that football would burgeon into a worldwide billion-dollar industry.

"Fifa was able to raise over US $200 million from the two World Cups, (1986 and 1990).  I was then able to see that football and business are not enemies, that there is a kind of nexus between the two."

With that in mind, Warner capitalized on the 1994 World Cup fever in the US and struck up major sponsorship deals for Concacaf.

Today these include a multi-million dollar contract with US football marketers, Inter/Forever Sports which sponsors Concacaf tournaments - among them Copa Caribe - and the national football team.

The two partners have also hooked up to market the broadcast rights to the qualifying games for Concacaf countries leading up to World Cup 2002.

It is a deal like this, which helped to turn around the regional confederation's fortunes during the past ten years.

Today, Concacaf has over US $24 million in cash reserves, offices in Guatemala City, New York and Port of Spain and a staff of more than 40.

Indeed, Warner believes that eh local business fraternity continues to miss the boat when it comes to understanding the money-spinning potential of football.  And more importantly, they miss out on the chance to give back to the national community.

In the former respect, most companies are far behind international corporations, particularly those in the United States (US), which traditionally has not been known as a football, in their case soccer, country.

And even today, race and class remain an obstacle to the sport's development locally, affirms Warner.

"Football is still seen as a sport for the black, the destitute, the lower class.  It does not endear itself to the people who have money.  But the guys who have money fail to understand that they will be insecure as can be, if they fail to give a little help to the black kid on the block."

Past governments also did not escape Warner's criticism for their lack of vision when it comes to the development of football and sport in general.

The day former PNM sports minister Marilyn Gordon gave him $10,000 at the then National Stadium on the last leg of a 16-team tournament, stands out in Warner's mind as one of the low points in the history of local sport administration.

In light of his vision for the sport, though, Warner is perhaps his own best example of how football can translate into big business for players, corporate sponsors and a country
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 01, 2007, 11:44:37 AM
:waiting: :waiting: :waiting: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :shameonyou: :shameonyou:
Some have forgotten

Jack Warner silent as Trinidad Soca Warrior spirit fades
Players concerned about accuracy of T&TFF accounting
Published  10/9/2006
TrinidadExpress.com
 

Port-of-Spain---9 Oct. 2006---FIFA vice-president and Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) special adviser, Jack Warner, maintained his silence yesterday, as the Soca Warriors continued to slide towards disbandment. 

On Friday evening, the Warriors, led by team captain Dwight Yorke, declared their intention to resign from international duty due to an alleged breach of contract by the T&TFF.

A hasty release from T&TFF general secretary Richard Groden, which erroneously accused the players of planning a boycott of Saturday's friendly against St Vincent and the Grenadines, suggested that the problem lay with the distribution of sponsorship money.

Groden submitted an unaudited statement of income and expenditure to the national media, which claimed that the T&TFF received $18,255,952 for its part in the Germany 2006 World Cup.

The players are believed to be concerned about the accuracy of the T&TFF's accounting.

For starters, there was no mention of money accrued from television rights. The deal, which was agreed to between the players and Warner two days before the first leg World Cup play-off against Bahrain, controversially failed to share television money for the Bahrain legs, as well as a host of friendly matches against the likes of Iceland, Wales and the Czech Republic. These matches were televised throughout Europe by high-profile stations like Sky Sports and Euro Sports.

There is worry that several sponsors were omitted or figures doctored as well.

The T&TFF's accountant for this project, by its own admission, is Kenny Rampersad, who was revealed to be Warner's business partner during investigations on Simpaul Travel Services last December. Rampersad, at the time, was mandated to act on Simpaul's behalf.

Worse, as far as the players were concerned, the T&TFF then deducted expenses before handing over the Warriors' share. And a $9 million share was reduced to $141,102 to be split 25 ways-24 players and one share for the players' committee.

Last Thursday, Yorke and his teammates were told that their reward for taking Trinidad and Tobago to its inaugural World Cup-a feat that secured them a place in FIFA's history book as well as $1 million and a Chaconia (Gold) medal each from the Government-was worth TT$5,644.08 per player to the T&TFF.

In short, Groden contended that sponsors hustling to get on board after the team's qualification for the Germany World Cup insisted that the T&TFF put aside one third of their money for the 2010 campaign, which must not benefit the present players.

Even if the T&TFF was honest in its assessment that money be split only after deducting expenditure, the local body calculated expenses from February 2005 while the deal with the players was done nine months later.

The income and expenses section had questionable figures too.

In near two years-a period that included six World Cup qualifiers and the farewell fixture for retired legend Russell Latapy-the T&TFF claimed to receive just $5,217 from its bar. The bar was clearly a monumental failure considering that, in the expenses column, $238,715 was subtracted for refreshments.

A paltry $20,000 was budgeted for the sale of banners over the same period, with $300,000 for broadcast rights as well as $9.3 and $8.6 million for ticket sales and sponsorship, respectively.

Yorke might have been surprised to note that the players were paying their own salaries too. The players' match fees, allowances, accommodation and transportation were all deducted from their World Cup bonus package, as were the T&TFF's "FIFA/CONCACAF dues", gate equipment and scouting fees.

Yorke does not hold an accounting degree, but he clearly felt that something was awry.

"We cannot see how we can build on anything if the contracts that we enter into are not worth the paper they are written on. It is for these reasons we now feel the need to say goodbye to the international stage," said Yorke, who read from a prepared statement on Friday.

It is Warner who agreed a contract with the Warriors, but, to date, only Groden has defended the T&TFF's interpretation of it.

Yorke was scheduled to leave Trinidad yesterday evening to return to his employers, Sunderland FC in England. The Warriors' 5-0 win over St Vincent might be the last time that local fans see him sport national colours.

T&TFF press officer Shaun Fuentes could not confirm Warner's whereabouts yesterday.




 
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: takenoprisoners on February 01, 2007, 12:34:46 PM
Thanks Dreamer for posting these articles.
You are a true "warrior" indeed ! :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
 
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 01, 2007, 04:30:58 PM
We going through a confidence building phase right now. Most of us are afraid of Jackula and feel paralyzed by his intimidating power and his apparent historical untouchability. When you are made to think that you are a rare irrelevant voice concerned about him and the TTFF, then you feel timid at first and indulge in alot of denial.

But when there seems to be developing a new sense of a pack,.... then a crowd,......then a potent article from somebody like a Lasana,....... then validation by previously silent commentators,......then thousands jumping to the infectious crowd-psychology whipping-up by Blue, Bunji, Maximus as they wave to a new "Jackula" kaiso,....... then, as predicted, a suddenly suprised sounding editorial contribution by the mysteriously quiet dailes will appear,.....then a typical domino set of events will take place in the country as people compete for the financial benefit of being on that bandwaggon to address the Jackula Syndrome. Money and influential lobby power follows a cause after the cause takes time to germinate and sink in and spread. Right now this cause is still an embryo so if yuh looking for results today, sorry to disappoint you.

When Latas,Yorke, Sancho, Tallest, Jack, Glen and de rest see the gathering storm and realize that there is no turning back, then yuh go hear from them. Then, next will be the coaches, when people like them begin to feel that enough numbers, then present, makes them persecution-proof. Jackula will try to pass some good dullahs to some coaches and popular spokesmen to derail things but doh worry. He will then threaten, like a classic manipulator, to "wash his hands" of T&T football and go "farin" where he is properly appreciated, loved and given garlands, hoping that we say: "Please Uncle Jackula, we sorry, we now realize how much we took you for granted.....doh go nah Uncle ....without you we jess doh know what to do 

Steuuppsss.  Look, there are great people like Lincoln and many true patriots in local and foreign exile just waiting for the dictator to fall so that they can try to contribute in leadership. It is true that Jackula, Grodent and Scamps are plotting counter strategy all now. They are doing their research and are going to tighten the noose around Denzil's, Gray's and Whitley's neck, and through Joe Public, try to use Glasgow and others. They must be contacted and told that emotional and financial backing is on the way and that their sacrifice will be shared and a better day is coming. The players' union is a serious matter. Also needed maybe is a fans' footballer fund.

In the meantime, we go to our games and support Glasgow, Baptiste, Daniel and de rest with true sincerity, but I agree, simultaneously sending a message to Jackula, Grodent and Scamps whether it be by wearing a cap, showing a banner, wearing a t-shirt, singing a song or doing a "Maximus wave". I eh worried.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: kounty on February 01, 2007, 08:01:10 PM
We going through a confidence building phase right now. Most of us are afraid of Jackula and feel paralyzed by his intimidating power and his apparent historical untouchability. When you are made to think that you are a rare irrelevant voice concerned about him and the TTFF, then you feel timid at first and endulge in alot of denial.

But when there seems to be developing a new sense of a pack,.... then a crowd,......then a potent article from somebody like a Lasana,....... then validation by previously silent commentators,......then thousands jumping to the infectious crowd-psychology whipping-up by Blue, Bunji, Maximus as they wave to a new "Jackula" kaiso,....... then, as predicted, a suddenly suprised sounding editorial contribution by the mysteriously quiet dailes will appear,.....then a typical domino set of events will take place in the country as people compete for the financial benefit of being on that bandwaggon to address the Jackula Syndrome. Money and influential lobby power follows a cause after the cause takes time to germinate and sink in and spread. Right now this cause is still an embryo so if yuh looking for results today, sorry to disappoint you.

When Latas,Yorke, Sancho, Tallest, Jack, Glen and de rest see the gathering storm and realize that there is no turning back, then yuh go hear from them. Then, next will be the coaches, when people like them begin to feel that enough numbers, then present, makes them persecution-proof. Jackula will try to pass some good dullahs to some coaches and popular spokesmen to derail things but doh worry. He will then threaten, like a classic manipulator, to "wash his hands" of T&T football and go "farin" where he is properly appreciated, loved and given garlands, hoping that we say: "Please Uncle Jackula, we sorry, we now realize how much we took you for granted.....doh go nah Uncle ....without you we jess doh know what to do 

Steuuppsss.  Look, there are great people like Lincoln and many true patriots in local and foreign exile just waiting for the dictator to fall so that they can try to contribute in leadership. It is true that Jackula, Grodent and Scamps are plotting counter strategy all now. They are doing their research and are going to tighten the noose around Denzil's, Gray's and Whitley's neck, and through Joe Public, try to use Glasgow and others. They must be contacted and told that emotional and financial backing is on the way and that their sacrifice will be shared and a better day is coming. The players' union is a serious matter. Also needed maybe is a fans' footballer fund.

In the meantime, we go to our games and support Glasgow, Baptiste, Daniel and de rest with true sincerity, but I agree, simultaneously sending a message to Jackula, Grodent and Scamps whether it be by wearing a cap, showing a banner, wearing a t-shirt, singing a song or doing a "Maximus wave". I eh worried.
:applause: :applause: :applause:

this have to go down as one of the best posts I read on this board ever.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: Jefferz on February 01, 2007, 08:02:30 PM
We going through a confidence building phase right now. Most of us are afraid of Jackula and feel paralyzed by his intimidating power and his apparent historical untouchability. When you are made to think that you are a rare irrelevant voice concerned about him and the TTFF, then you feel timid at first and endulge in alot of denial.

But when there seems to be developing a new sense of a pack,.... then a crowd,......then a potent article from somebody like a Lasana,....... then validation by previously silent commentators,......then thousands jumping to the infectious crowd-psychology whipping-up by Blue, Bunji, Maximus as they wave to a new "Jackula" kaiso,....... then, as predicted, a suddenly suprised sounding editorial contribution by the mysteriously quiet dailes will appear,.....then a typical domino set of events will take place in the country as people compete for the financial benefit of being on that bandwaggon to address the Jackula Syndrome. Money and influential lobby power follows a cause after the cause takes time to germinate and sink in and spread. Right now this cause is still an embryo so if yuh looking for results today, sorry to disappoint you.

When Latas,Yorke, Sancho, Tallest, Jack, Glen and de rest see the gathering storm and realize that there is no turning back, then yuh go hear from them. Then, next will be the coaches, when people like them begin to feel that enough numbers, then present, makes them persecution-proof. Jackula will try to pass some good dullahs to some coaches and popular spokesmen to derail things but doh worry. He will then threaten, like a classic manipulator, to "wash his hands" of T&T football and go "farin" where he is properly appreciated, loved and given garlands, hoping that we say: "Please Uncle Jackula, we sorry, we now realize how much we took you for granted.....doh go nah Uncle ....without you we jess doh know what to do 

Steuuppsss.  Look, there are great people like Lincoln and many true patriots in local and foreign exile just waiting for the dictator to fall so that they can try to contribute in leadership. It is true that Jackula, Grodent and Scamps are plotting counter strategy all now. They are doing their research and are going to tighten the noose around Denzil's, Gray's and Whitley's neck, and through Joe Public, try to use Glasgow and others. They must be contacted and told that emotional and financial backing is on the way and that their sacrifice will be shared and a better day is coming. The players' union is a serious matter. Also needed maybe is a fans' footballer fund.

In the meantime, we go to our games and support Glasgow, Baptiste, Daniel and de rest with true sincerity, but I agree, simultaneously sending a message to Jackula, Grodent and Scamps whether it be by wearing a cap, showing a banner, wearing a t-shirt, singing a song or doing a "Maximus wave". I eh worried.
:applause: :applause: :applause:

this have to go down as one of the best posts I read on this board ever.

second that.  :beermug:


really good stuff dreamer.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 02, 2007, 03:13:40 PM
From the archives of socawarriors.net (posted Fed 22, 2006). Courtesy Toppa.

FIFA in New Jack Fray.
By: Anna Ramdass (Express).



Rowley calls on football body to investigate local Under-17 World Cup $348m spending.
Housing Minister Dr Keith Rowley is calling on FIFA to investigate the role of Jack Warner, one of its vice-presidents, in the more than doubling of the cost of four stadia that were built when Trinidad and Tobago hosted the Under-17 World Cup four years ago.
Warner, at Sunday's UNC rally, questioned why Rowley had been pointing fingers at him and, in response, the Housing Minister held a press conference at the Housing Development Corporation (HDC) to link the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation's Special Advisor to what he charged were inflated stadia costs.
Rowley reminded the media that in October 1995 the then PNM Cabinet had agreed to support the hosting of the FIFA Under-17 World Cup by building four stadia at the cost of $165 million.
However, elections were held later that year and the UNC came into power.
According to Rowley, in 1999 the UNC Cabinet revised the $165 million to $348 million with the cost increases being attributed to what Rowley described as interior fittings, bleachers, fixed spectator seatings, playing fields, flood lighting and score boards all of which, according to him, had been anticipated in the initial costing.
He said according to Cabinet notes, FIFA was to be the project manager for this project and funding was to be provided by Fincor.He added that under the development programme for the fiscal year 1999, $102 million was allocated in the budget for the project.
"Somewhere in the mix out of the blue that procedure was abandoned...the next thing you know the project was being done by another group of financiers, Fincor was nowhere in the programme," said Rowley.
He said at a Parliament sitting the matter was raised and then Sports Minister Manohar Ramsaran was questioned about the award of the contract and the financiers.
Ramsaran had responded that the Government would not be funding the construction of the stadia and that a consortium of Concacaf, Royal Merchant Bank, Guardian Life, and Barbados Mutual Life Assurance Society known as RGM Ltd was doing so.
Rowley made reference to a web which saw FIFA initially being featured prominently in Cabinet notes as the project manager only for a change that saw the contract being then put in the hands of Concacaf.
"It was illegal and improper for the Government to award any contract without tender to FIFA or Concacaf," the Minister charged.
He argued that the contracts had been awarded in a very strange manner to the point where the Trinidad and Tobago Contractors Association sent a letter to then Prime Minister Basdeo Panday expressing their concerns.
The question Rowley put to FIFA was what specific services the organisation and if, in fact, it had ever been involved as a contractor.
He said FIFA also had to tell the country whether it had been made aware of Concacaf's advancing itself in the project as well as how much that organisation was paid and for what services provided.
He also raised concern on Concacaf and asked whether or not it is the Concacaf or some local umbrella company.
These questions were being raised, Rowley said, because FIFA has shown an interest in ethics and was very much featured in the Government's business.
He added that if FIFA was terminated from the deal and the contract ended up with Concacaf, FIFA must also answer how that deal had been terminated.
"The reason why I raise all of this, is that huge sums of money was involved," said Rowley.
"He (Warner) is telling the country without batting an eyelid that he put $17 million to fund the national team...why is he so generous? Where this money come from?" he asked.
Rowley disclosed that the Government was still paying for a loan of $4 million a month on this project even as there remained still unanswered questions.
"I am taking the opportunity to call on FIFA to broaden their investigation in Trinidad and Tobago to answer all these questions where the agency has been featured prominently in Government business and for the benefit of the public to tell us the facts on this matter," he challenged.
Far from being content to leave the matter to FIFA, however, Rowley insisted that the PNM would ensure the questions be answered before the UNC "comes near the corridors of power". However, he was bringing via the media and was willing to supply the international organisation with the pertinent documentation.
Warner, for his part, told the Daily Express that he did not have to answer to Rowley and asked his own question: "Why did he wait four years to make this announcement?"
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 03, 2007, 12:24:03 PM
A tale of two executives.   :arguing: :loser: :nailbiting: :waiting: :shameonyou: :loser:


FIFA Embarrassed as Executive Official Caught Selling England v T&T Tickets Illegally
Sat, 17/06/2006 - 22:19.
Submitted by Pavlos Skoufis  

http://www.worldcuplatest.com/fifa-embarrassed-as-executive-official-c-4023.html


In another embarrassing incident, FIFA, the World Football governing body, admitted that one of its executives illegally sold tickets for the England v Trinidad & Tobago match, three times their original value.
Ismail Bhamjee, president of the Botswana Football Federation, admitted to selling 12 tickets for the England v Trinidad & Tobago match at three times the original price.

FIFA was quick to issue a statement condemning the incident and asking Bhamjee to leave Germany and resign from any FIFA positions he holds, including a statement from Bhamjee himself.

"I deeply regret this incorrect act and apologise to FIFA for violating the relevant terms and conditions governing the sale of tickets for the 2006 FIFA World Cup," read the statement written by Bhamjee himself .

However, what FIFA did not mention is that the tickets originated from the Trinidad & Tobago Football Federation, with which   Jack Warner has strong links  with.

Jack Warner was involved in a scandal with his Travel Company, SimPaul, which was selling World Cup tickets and is based in Trinidad & Tobago, including tickets to the England v Trinidad and Tobago, in contrast with FIFA regulations.

However, it is also alledged by BBC's 'Panorama' programme that Jack Warner was bribed, so that the 35 Football Associations he controls vote for Sepp Blatter's re-election as FIFA president. Proof that Jack Warner receives special treatment from the FIFA President himself is that he was not asked to step down, but continues to hold his CONCACAF Presidency.

It is worth to note that on the SimPaul case, FIFA only admitted any wrong-doing after a local press report condemned the exclusive allocation of Trinidad & Tobago's World Cup tickets to SimPaul, which was owned by Jack Warner and his wife.

FIFA Executives get paid $500 per day for their expenses while on FIFA duty and also get $100,000 per year, which by itself proves that the tickets involved were not just 12, as Ismail Bhamjee wouldn't risk his fat salary just to make a couple of thousand dollars, although there is no proof of this at the time of this writing.

"In such a situation, FIFA acts immediately and firmly," Sepp Blatter said about the incident, without giving any further details as usual.

FIFA's Jack Warner is accused of turning from a simple history teacher to a "property investor" via widespread corruption. Click on one of the article links below to read more about his involvement with FIFA.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 04, 2007, 08:07:40 PM
In light of CR 4---T&T 0:
Impact on Jackula, Warriors and fans
Feb 4, 2007


Every major football event involving local based and foreign based T&T ballers, impacts on strategy that Jackula intends to use, and on strategy that exploited Warriors and fans can use. I think it's important to see the bigger picture, see if you've lost ground or made major headway in cornering Jackula, Grodent and Scamps. Sometimes a tactical gain for the Warriors as a whole is hidden in apparent chaos. Today is a case in point.

T&T just lost 4-0 to Costa Rica. No matter how nice we might have looked (and we await a delayed broadcast web feed by generous men like Grande and e-man) a score like that sounds like a serious demoralizing whipping which would normally put the SW.net posse into immediate depression and start a whole new round of sectarian violence on the posts . Ah could see blows from a chaotic mix of militias coming from Touches, palos, Sam, truetrini, TI, dcs, warmonga, triniman, small Mag, vb, Jefferz, trinbago, Midknight, Grande, takenoprisoner and several others as tempers flare, innocent members get caught in the crossfire and deep humiliation aggravated by unrelenting flashbacks from the Bertille era trigger suicide-bomber collateral damage to quiet bystanders on the board . Men will be calling for Wim's head within minutes as they graduate from shock to anger phase and look for a scapegoat.

Well, while all this chaos and "ethnic cleansing" is unfolding, don't forget what this means for Jackula and co. I contend that there are 2 blessings in disguise in all this. Firstly, the baby Warriors would have learnt what  the real world is like out there, if and when they are called upon to serve as part of the senior team on the critical qualifier day. But more importantly, Jackula has had a setback in terms of his dirty war with the Warriors. His plan to literally  throw them into the rubbish dump of history has been simply cut down now. Jackula will now realize that unavoidably, a new team must be a transition team with several previous stars and leaders and they will clearly now be seen as indispensable. No spin nor propaganda could change that.

Jackula is a unique creature. Embarassment and shame doesn't necessarily affect him the way it does others. He ia a masochist for public insult. He is driven only by money. Yes money. Even if he has several million he needs more (like a cancer) and is thus hell bent on gulping the spoils from another World Cup appearance  (and Gold Cup success) even if Scamps, Grodent, Blatter and his family are all he has left as fans. To this end he will realize that he has to reverse course and invite Yorke, Sancho, Tallest, Carlos, Stern, Jones, Birchall, Jack, Gray, John, Theobald and others and any players previously or currently  involved in lawsuits against him.

This scenario would be good thing for our football as we get a reality check and the forces continue to reposition and align themselves before Gold Cup and World Cup. The balance of power swings now to the Warriors suing him. It is therefore important that John, Yorke, Carlos, Jones and the rest  keep their market value high and options for their career growth open, so as to make Jackula need them and not for them to need Jackula. They must not let Jackula make them let go of their principled stand
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 05, 2007, 03:30:30 PM
Warner's Address - A response to the allegations.
Shaun Fuentes

Truetrini almost blow a brain fuse in this thread. Serious fight almost break out oui..... Thank God for gun control.  Ah must ask truetrini if he is a member of FAWK......sorry.....(Federation Against Warner's Kingdom) that I think Jefferz belongs to. Jackula, yuh not easy.

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=9984.0
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 15, 2007, 10:25:10 AM
A blast from the past. Woe to those who want to forget  :liar: :thinking: :shameonyou: :waiting:

Phagwa Jack 'wines' on critics
(express -South Bureau)
Monday, March 20th 2006


 
Back home after being let off by the Executive Committee of FIFA on charges of ethics violations, Jack Warner wined on stage with Phagwa celebrants and then "wined" on his critics, although he said they wanted to kill him politically.

Warner said that before jetting home from Switzerland on Saturday night, he was the one who applied for, and was granted more tickets for sale to Trinidadians wanting to see the Soca Warriors in action in Germany.

Warner was in a celebratory mood last evening at a Phagwa function held at Palmiste Pastures, San Fernando.

Last Friday, FIFA President Joseph Sepp Blatter announced that Warner, a FIFA Vice President, had been cleared of all charges arising out of his family's ownership of Simpaul's Travel Agency. The agency is the sole ticketing agent for the World Cup. FIFA investigated the charges based on an exclusive Express investigation, and after Warner requested an investigation.

Warner, the UNC's Deputy Political Leader, said: "As we all know, the allegations was a political matter. They thought they would discredit me, kill my spirit, my good name and my standing in my country. They figured if they killed me, it would affect the UNC but it didn't work. But don't believe this would be the last time they will try this."

He added: "They will cross me again and I am ready for them. I am happy to be among my people. I feel at home."

Warner said of his family's travel agency: "I have severed ties with the travel service.

I asked FIFA to tell me where is the conflict of interest. They didn't tell me. I went to them, so what is the big hullabaloo?"

Warner, who was doused with abeer and plastered with coloured powder during his stage antics, also promised to tell all about the "level of treachery" involved in in the FIFA ticketing scandal.

About the World Cup tickets, Warner said: "We are getting more tickets.

All those people who wanted four (tickets) and under will get. I made an application and FIFA have accepted it. We will have more tickets than we need." -Richard Charan
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on February 15, 2007, 11:04:54 AM
Dreamer, are you writing a PHD Thesis on the "Leadership of CONTCACAF" ;)
darn, my keyboard is messin up today
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 16, 2007, 06:29:06 PM
Yeah Coast, ah just ensurin' that we chip away, bit by bit, at Jackula, Scamps and Grodent and let the youngsters who doh know dey sad history, have a chance to learn a li'l something and hopefully not repeat it.
An article a day keeps dem saddis' at bay and may just trigger something when we get the testicular fortitude. All closet Jackula bottom-lickers show allyuh corrupted hand now! I doing what I have to do.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 16, 2007, 07:14:23 PM
From the Socawarriors.net archive of Jan 26, 2007, posted by Flex  
 :bringiton: :challenge: :shameonyou: :waiting:  ..................     :wavetowel:

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T&T footballers give war declaration to T&TFF.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).

Warrior suit!  


The “Soca Warriors” yesterday declared that it was “on the verge of legal action” against the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) over a bonus dispute in what could be a landmark case in the country’s sport history and is sure to catch the attention of global football body, FIFA.

London sport lawyers, Athletes 1 Legal, issued a press release on behalf of 17 members of the national football team who represented Trinidad and Tobago at their historic debut showing at the 2006 World Cup in Germany.
The aggrieved players are Marvin Andrews, Kenwyne Jones, Chris Birchall, Collin Samuel, Atiba Charles, Brent Sancho, Cyd Gray, Ian Cox, Aurtis Whitley, Cornell Glen, Kelvin Jack, Shaka Hislop, Evans Wise, Avery John, Stern John, Anthony Wolfe and present squad captain Densill Theobald.

“The players are ready and willing to meet with the T&TFF to discuss matters but that option no longer appears available,” stated a release from Athletes 1 Legal. “The players have asked a series of detailed questions regarding revenues from the World Cup and associated expenses but none of these have been replied to. Therefore there appears little option but to sue the Federation in the Trinidad Courts for an order that the Federation produce a full account of the World Cup revenue, and thereafter pay to the players the percentage that was previously agreed.”

T&TFF press officer Shaun Fuentes told the Trinidad Express that his employers did not wish to respond “at this time” and the matter would be forwarded to their lawyers. Neither party has directly addressed the press on the matter apart from e-mailed releases or one press conference, staged by the players last September, which did not permit questions.

Notably absent from the Athletes 1 Legal list are World Cup captain Dwight Yorke and retired playmaker Russell Latapy as well as the quartet of Carlos Edwards, Dennis Lawrence, Jason Scotland and Clayton Ince.
The disagreement centers on the disbursement of sponsorship and commercial revenues, which arose from the country’s qualification for the World Cup, to the national players.

The players made a pact with FIFA vice-president Jack Warner in November 2005 for 30 percent of sponsorship and commercial revenue. They claimed that this figure rose to 50 percent during the World Cup.
Warner, at the time, negotiated in his capacity as T&TFF special advisor. He was later named as chairman of Local Organising Committee (LOC) Germany 2006, which dealt with all aspects of the team’s World Cup preparation including all commercial deals.

A similar deal was brokered between the Football Federation of Australia (FFA) and its players for the 2006 tournament. The “Socceroos” received $14.5 million ($3 million Australian dollars) to share among themselves from the $44.4 million ($9.2 million Australian dollars) paid to the FFA by FIFA for its team’s qualification. In addition, Australia’s World Cup players also received a third of the FFA’s spin-off income, which included shirt sales and merchandise.

The T&TFF, however, claimed to have earned just $18 million—inclusive of merchandising and sponsorship deals—last September. The local body further deducted expenses before presenting a share of $141,102 for the team or $5,644.08 per player.

The Warriors initially threatened strike action but decided to continue to represent their country while they retained Athletes 1 Legal to fight on their behalf.

Thus far, the T&TFF and Athletes 1 Legal have been unable to find a compromise.
Athletes One Legal’s chief solicitor, Mike Townley, insisted that the T&TFF’s financial statement was “substantially inaccurate and unreliable” and called on the Federation to “properly account to the players for the sponsorship and other commercial revenues generated from qualification”.

“The income figures do not match the amounts which the Federation previously claimed to have earned from sponsors and whole categories of income, such as licensing and merchandising, are excluded,” stated the release. “The Players’ view is that the accounts they have seen massively understate the income and overstate the expenses.”

Townley noted discrepancies in the T&TFF’s books and pointed to the Adidas deal, which was fingered in a Trinidad Express report last September.
“The Federation in their own press statements prior to the World Cup Finals stated that Adidas had agreed to sponsor the Warriors for the sum of US$11.5 million,” Townley stated. “Yet in the accounts that have now been produced income from Adidas is shown at just under US$300,000.

“The players first asked for this discrepancy to be explained in a letter of 24th October, and yet to date no explanation for this or any of the other identified discrepancies has been received.”
Townley also slammed the T&TFF’s alleged failure to release $225,000 (US$36,000) to the players for distribution to an unnamed charity. He claimed the two parties agreed to withhold this money for charity from the sum owed to the players as their share of the FIFA grant earned by qualification.

“The money was always intended to go to charity,” stated Townley. “Given the current relations between the players and the Federation it was felt best if that money was transferred to the Squad account while a decision was taken on who should receive it.

“A letter requesting that this sum be paid to the Warrior’s account was sent to the Federation lawyers on the 6th December but no payment has yet been made by the Federation. The players are very concerned that even this sum of US$36,000 is being retained when quite obviously no dispute exists in relation to it and it is unarguably due to the players.”

Athletes 1 Legal also accused the T&TFF of “discrimination” and acting “against the interests of T&T football” by ignoring players from national selection due to their involvement in the bonus dispute.

Last September, T&TFF general secretary Richard Groden referred to the Warriors as “delinquent” and “less than honourable” while, in November, he singled out the England-based pair of Brent Sancho and Kelvin Jack, who both represent England League One club Gillingham, as the leaders of the revolt. Neither player was invited to represent his country since the World Cup.

Groden also threatened to ignore the Warriors and, instead, use players from the local Pro League and national youth teams to “form the nucleus of our team for 2010”.

Theobald, the present captain, was the only World Cup player used at the 2007 Digicel Caribbean Cup tournament and it is now uncertain whether he will be allowed to keep his place   for upcoming friendly matches against Panama and Costa Rica. Trinidad and Tobago competed without most of its regular players at the regional competition and ended in second spot after a 2-1 loss to Haiti in the final.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 17, 2007, 11:06:03 AM
Warriors on fire today!! Sat 17th Feb, 2007 will go dong in history as a landmark day, with more implications than you would think. Stern buss 2, Jones leggo 2, Scotty ress dong 2. :challenge: :challenge: :challenge: Wheyysss!!  Jackula cyah tell Stern and dem boys nutten!!!!!!  Bring dem back for de Gold Cup!!!!!  Every man jack! ..........yuh hear me Jackula?! >:( . Talk done. :beermug:

Daiz power strategy right dey without any stupid talk. Doh beg Jackula, Let Jackula beg you. You control de agenda or else yuh goose cook ........ for good.

Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 18, 2007, 08:53:34 PM
International resignations on hold.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).
Socawarriors.net archives
Posted by Firebrand, Oct 13, 2006

WARRIORS IN LIMBO.


The "Soca Warriors", who made a maiden World Cup appearance at the 2006 tournament in Germany, cruised to a 5-0 win over St Vincent last Saturday and edged Panama 2-1 in a scrappy affair on Wednesday.

But they are not having it their own way with the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF).
The players have not drawn up resignation letters just yet, despite their threat to do so last Friday over the distribution of World Cup sponsorship money. But the future commitment of the Warriors remains in limbo as talks continue between the players and the Federation.

They must dispatch resignation letters at least a week before Trinidad and Tobago's next international assignment away to Austria on November 15 or, if they fail to turn out, the players could face sanctions from FIFA.

"We said that we would only change our minds, if there was a change from the T&TFF," said one player, who preferred to remain anonymous. "Nothing has changed yet, so we are still holding our position."
But the player admitted that the 2006 World Cup players had not penned resignation letters, nor had they agreed on a time to do so.

"We still have to meet as a group to decide on that," he said.

The paradoxical position of their verbal but non-binding retirement is symptomatic of the complexities and vagaries of the present impasse between players and administrators.

FIFA vice-president and T&TFF special adviser Jack Warner, according to the players, offered 50 per cent of revenue generated by the Federation in its 2006 World Cup campaign.

The T&TFF agreed to the split but insisted that expenses be deducted before paying the players and, as a result, a declared $18,255,952 bounty was whittled down to just $141,102 for the squad-$5,644.08 per player. The players declined the offer and announced their intention to resign.

But the "Warner World Cup agreement" is still a mystery to the general public and perhaps the players as well.

As both parties haggle over details, it is even less certain what promises were put to paper and which ones remained verbal.

The players admitted to initiating discussions with Sport Minister Roger Boynes as well but said those discussions were also "ongoing" and they were advised not to go public regarding details.

The Government's failure to publicly shed light on financial details with the T&TFF-particularly as the State has a controlling interest in the sporting body's main local sponsor, TSTT-is confusing.

Three months ago, the Government awarded Chaconia Gold Medals to the Warriors, but Prime Minister Patrick Manning and Boynes have not appeared as willing to stand alongside the players in recent times.
The players, too, seem starved for professional help.

The Football Players Association of Trinidad and Tobago (FPATT) was formed in 2003 and lists the England-based pair of defender Brent Sancho and goalkeeper Kelvin Jack as president and vice-president, respectively, with local midfielder Travis Mulraine as general secretary.

But FPATT has not held a meeting since and remains non-functional, while the players have not shown a clear link with any trade union.

As a result, players like Coventry City striker Stern John and Swansea defender Dennis Lawrence-both with minimal to no experience of such disputes-are left trying to negotiate with T&TFF president Oliver Camps and Warner, the FIFA finance committee deputy chairman.

The T&TFF look set to offer a new deal. Whether it will do justice to the initial agreement brokered between Warner and the Warriors is another thing altogether.


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Players' Association
From the recent Socawarriors.net archives
Oct 15, 2006
Posted by dcs



How much would they get if it was half the revenue?

I posted this in the comments right under the article:


Players' Association    Posted: 2006-10-13 08:31:00 AM

Please use the organisation that you formed in 2003. I am sure many citizens of T&T will offer their professional services to FPATT free of charge. Accountants, lawyers, name it...people will offer their services for free. The exposure alone will make it more than worth it.

I also agree that current players would find it difficult to run the assoc.  I was thinking people like Leonson Lewis, Angus Eve and others would be the most suitable.  Leonson was very vocal about past players being treated badly.  There are many past players who got college degrees and became professionals.  Look Dexter Skeene went Colombia and have a set of degrees.  I think Marlon Morris is another one.  Shaka's father was involved in getting FPATT off the ground from what I remember.  The players might be afraid of victimization but FPATT is actually there to protect them from that.
Maybe WN could talk to them to find out exactly what were the main problems they faced so we can see how best to help them (if they want help).


So who is volunteering to work on this?
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 18, 2007, 09:52:22 PM
Socawarriors.net members on de rampage  :whip:   early last year.  Nuff respec' to de collective awareness early o'clock then.

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=9983.0
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 19, 2007, 09:36:17 PM
JACKULA IN REAL TROUBLE   :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip:


CRO CRO decides to hold off singing "Just because of Greed" at Jean Pierre Complex Dimanche Gras Finals and wins with his next song. Stay tuned for the Jackula song by the vicious-mout', now-reigning, Calypso Monarch for 2007.

Papayo!
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on February 19, 2007, 09:46:12 PM
Calypso Monarch
1. Cro Cro - 'Nobody Eh Go Know' (428)
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on March 04, 2007, 11:36:30 AM
JACKULA IN REAL TROUBLE   :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip:


CRO CRO decides to hold off singing "Just because of Greed" at Jean Pierre Complex Dimanche Gras Finals and wins with his next song. Stay tuned for the Jackula song by the vicious-mout', now-reigning, Calypso Monarch for 2007.

Papayo!

Ah wish I had the lyrics for the "Just because of greed" kaiso. Could be very informative. Anybody who went to the tents and heard it, fix up..

Anyway, some issues to be addressed:

1. Update on Socawarriors' lawsuit.
2. Plans for set up of Players' Football Association. Need to be ready to negotiate for players b4 Gold Cup starts or   
    else is de same monkey pants all over again.  :waiting:
3. Clarification of whether any Socawarriors are blacklisted. Gold Cup draw coming up Tuesday March 6th!
4. What is the JDA and what does it stand for?  :thinking:  TTFF and T&T media should be asked bluntly in letters.
5. Update from the government on any communication / cooperation / feedback from Jackula.

Geh serious people.  Yeah, ah jumping up and wining   :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:  when Carlos, Yorkie and Stern-turn-inho score, but life eh so one-dimensional. Dat may be de Trini stereotype, but leh we destroy that myth nah....Oh shimms man >:(
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on March 12, 2007, 04:08:10 PM
Ok so Jackula threatening in his usual childish tantrum "I go dithband de thocawarriorth" as Minister Boynth refuseth to give uth any money and I am fed up morgaging my houth".

Steupppsss. Look take dat illiterate clown off my TV screen nah! FCOL >:(

I am worried about Carlos as he behaving like Jackula is a saint, and that smells of "someting pass" to me. Doh tell me he so chupiddy dat he eh reading the papers or the book "Foul!" to know what stinkness Jackula, Scamps and Rodent up to!  >:(

Look doh geh me vex now nah. Sancho, wey de lawsuit man?!

Anyway, anybody hear what was on i95.5 FM this past saturday with Andre Baptiste?  Was it only cricket tal;k or did dey tackle de football? Patriot say something please!
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dcs on March 12, 2007, 04:28:41 PM
I-95fm Sports Discussion on Football (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=25849.0)
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on March 13, 2007, 10:31:41 AM
I-95fm Sports Discussion on Football (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=25849.0)

Good info dcs. Respec'.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on March 22, 2007, 10:40:34 AM
People, this Jackula, Scamps and Rodent (J,S & R) saga is destroying our football just when we are showing more potential than ever to have top quality players in all positions playing high intensity professional football.

We need to get our act together, educate ourselves on local football, revise our posts, contribute to the threads and pass the word out to friends, encourage guests to sign up and post, support Lasana and Jennings, familiiarize ourselves with TTFF constitutional conspiracies, communicate privately with the Warriors on strategy, get the FPA going, write to the so-called mainstream newspapers and let J,S & R know that their propaganda attempts will not prevail.

We have only a few weeks before it will be finalized who will be blacklisted and barred from representing T&T..... and trust me, public pressure and newspaper spin (as ordered by Jackula  >:(  ) will have alot to do with this.

Let us not watch idly by and let the potentially great careers of Stern-turn-inho, Jones, Scotland, Wolfe, Glen, Birchall, Whitley, Theobald, Tallest, Sancho, Gray, Ince, Jack and others go down the drain when they are on the verge and perfectly poised to conquer Concacaf, appear in South Africa 2010 and set the stage for the younger ones in the production-line to follow.

Let us not allow our country to be sabotaged because of voracious greed, nepotisn and cronyism by a bunch of corrupt, blood-sucking, unpatriotic, manipulative, exploitative, back-stabbing, career-destroying and blackmail-inclined youth destroyers  >:(  who would rather fill their pockets to the brim than see T&T do well with a little less in their pockets

In case some of the several "guests" on this board don't realize, those above-mentioned Warriors read this board too. Even Ato Boldon reads and posts regularly (nuff respec' to him for that) and he seems to have decided to distance himself (a little) from Jackula now. For those who are being given spin about how innocent and sweet Jackula and baby Jackula are, just check on the amount of damning info generated by the workhorses on this site, a small fraction of which I tried to capture in generation of the thread.

It is obvious that many players are grabbing the opportunity (wisely I must say) to optimally position themselves for the wave of persecution coming by April/May in preparation for the June Gold Cup. There is a mad rush to change PFL clubs, join PFL clubs, head to the UK, Europe, USA and even Vietnam in order to save their careers. The sad thing is many will still not get on this evacuating boat. In this regard, the Footballers Players' Association is critical in protecting the welfare of our players and making sure that wickedness will never make them go hungry and end up as vagrants when their playing days are over or when they get an injury. Vulnerability is a recipe for explioitation.

Is crunch time fellas. Time to act, to write, to read, to influence, to be an advocate, to lobby, to move..........to slay. That's right, I said to slay. Jackula is preparing his army and if we are not ready, then we deserve to be slaves to his "mighty" enslavers. I like to crack a few jokes, but ah feel too passionate about this to clown around right now. Seeeeeerious bizness! Pen is power, not talk. Talk usually cyah lead to a lawsuit.

Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: D.H.W on March 22, 2007, 11:02:27 AM
wait nah dreamer jacko really seroius about blacklisting we players he have to be mad,  >:(
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on March 22, 2007, 11:30:17 AM
wait nah dreamer jacko really seroius about blacklisting we players he have to be mad,  >:(
YEARS now dat goin orn man

To DREAMER....you deserve an award for TRYING to educate the plebs an dem about the situation.

How can we get Transparency in the TTFF?
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: D.H.W on March 22, 2007, 01:21:56 PM

Is crunch time fellas. Time to act, to write, to read, to influence, to be an advocate, to lobby, to move..........to slay. That's right, I said to slay. Jackula is preparing his army and if we are not ready, then we deserve to be slaves to his "mighty" enslavers. I like to crack a few jokes, but ah feel too passionate about this to clown around right now. Seeeeeerious bizness! Pen is power, not talk. Talk usually cyah lead to a lawsuit.
by putting pressure on jacko and getting the public aware of this so called black list, we can stop this man from killing our football. Anybody try writing d local papers. Personaly jacko has no right to ban anybody, he doh own we football and he aint paying d bills again. feck you jacko >:(
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on March 22, 2007, 08:55:20 PM
Ah hear yuh. Respec' fellas

As ah reading various comments in de threads, is jess getting clearer to me dat we have become so numb to the abuse by Jackula that is like we almost accept it. Imagine man expec' for Jackula to blacklist and ruin de careers of talented ballers as if daiz life.

Step aside and think fuh a minute. Yuh think anywhere in the UK or US or Europe, one man can decide to persecute you as a baller (and here dis...fuh being ethical ! ) and get away with it so,... with no chance to be sued?  >:(  Worse yet the man who calls himself "Thpethial Advithor to the Football Fetherathun"  want to end the careers of most of the history-making nationally-awarded legends and nobody in our country cyah do nutten! Amazing!!!!

A nex' ting. De government jess watchin on even though is dem who give de players de millions. Why so much silence about Jackula everywhere you turn? Boy only in T&T.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on March 25, 2007, 06:45:21 PM
Let us campaign against blacklisting by Jackula now! Daiz de height of nastiness  >:( . Start de pressure now to ensure that Stern, Jones, Scotty, Glen, Wolfe, Samuel, Birch, Whitley, Carlos, Toussaint, Baptiste, Spann, Theobald, Sancho, Gray, Tallest. Jack, Ince and de rest all geh a chance to represent at de Gold Cup. Lobby-pressure people. We at de crossroads. This is it! Doh let all dat talent go to waste please. Lobby also for any players of potential that geyyin' a look now.


Dat right back fella (Drayton?) from Connection who played against Chivas should get a look but of course Jackula done say dat his Joe Public's Seon Power ha to geh pick...

"or elth no thocawarriorth will play again in thith thentury and there will be no contracth fuh anybothy  to play overtheath." " I am Thack Warner and I own this counthy  >:( . I own the thocawarriorth, I own the TheeTheeFF,  I own all the TV righth, Thimpaul, all the hotelth, the UNTHEE, the rothi and doubleth thold by all the catereth, even the thoilet paper in the thadium wathroom that yuh uth to wipe yuh bumthee". I even own the righth to blacklith any thporth perthon till they go on their kneeth and call me Uncle Thack.

"I want to own Thaka Hithlop, Thwight Yorke, Brenth Thancho and the thocawarriorth.neth ....  but them damn playerth are thuing me! Thit man!".

Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: D.H.W on March 25, 2007, 08:55:58 PM
Let us campaign against blacklisting by Jackula now! Daiz de height of nastiness  >:( . Start de pressure now to ensure that Stern, Jones, Scotty, Glen, Wolfe, Samuel, Birch, Whitley, Carlos, Toussaint, Baptiste, Spann, Theobald, Sancho, Gray, Tallest. Jack, Ince and de rest all geh a chance to represent at de Gold Cup. Lobby-pressure people. We at de crossroads. This is it! Doh let all dat talent go to waste please. Lobby also for any players of potential that geyyin' a look now.


Dat right back fella (Drayton?) from Connection who played against Chivas should get a look but of course Jackula done say dat his Joe Public's Seon Power ha to geh pick...

"or elth no thocawarriorth will play again in thith thentury and there will be no contracth fuh anybothy  to play overtheath." " I am Thack Warner and I own this counthy  >:( . I own the thocawarriorth, I own the TheeTheeFF,  I own all the TV righth, Thimpaul, all the hotelth, the UNTHEE, the rothi and doubleth thold by all the catereth, even the thoilet paper in the thadium wathroom that yuh uth to wipe yuh bumthee". I even own the righth to blacklith any thporth perthon till they go on their kneeth and call me Uncle Thack.

"I want to own Thaka Hithlop, Thwight Yorke, Brenth Thancho and the thocawarriorth.neth ....  but them damn playerth are thuing me! Thit man!".

dreamer yuh think if we write d local papers they might publish something ?
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on March 25, 2007, 10:40:05 PM
Won't hurt to try, die hard. Is true that they have a not-so-accidental silence on these matters but lobby pressure does get to them.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on March 29, 2007, 08:51:37 PM
So what Jackula up to now?  :waiting:

CFU CONGRESS CLOSES IN CURACAO ... Warner stays positive over development of regional game
March 28, 2007  

www.socawarriorstt.com

 
The 30th annual Congress of the Caribbean Football Union came to an end on Wednesday in Curacao, Netherlands Antilles following four days of intense workshops and discussions mapping the way forward for regional football.
 
CONCACAF and CFU President Jack Warner led his CFU members as well as executive members of CONCACAF in lavish settings at the Marriot Hotel and Clarion World Trade Centre as several announcements were made and proposals put forward for the development of the game.

Among the guests were FIFA Development Officer Mary Harvey as well as CONCACAF General Secretary Chuck Blazer, President of Central America (UNCAF) Rafael Tinoco and CFU Vice President Horace Burrell.

The CONCACAF  and CFU Executive Committee heard reports on all past, current and future competitions, as well as reports from the regional bodies of the Caribbean and Central America and CONCACAF department reports.
 
Warner, who was frequently applauded for his services and congratulated on his reelection as CONCACAF President took the opportunity to thank his members for making him their choice and highlighted the positive developments of the Union, also taking time to address some of the shortcomings which included the failure to implement certain development programs which he still felt confident would see improvement.
 
Both Blazer and Harvey, during their addresses also commended the CFU members for their progress over the years, citing that there was sufficient evidence that there was firm intentions for the proper development of the game regionally

Among the announcements was which Warner appeared excited over  was the setting up of a special committee entitled “Vision Caribe” which will be responsible for a comprehensive and detailed review of the state of Caribbean football and the way forward.

 This he said must reflect the official policy and views on the big issues facing Caribbean football including but not limited to such factors as the releasing of players by clubs for national teams; youth and women development; doping; racism and discrimination; political intervention and cooperation; competition structures; a licensing system for referees and coaches and sports journalism as it relates to football. This committee will run under the chairmanship of Bahamas’ Lionel Haven, vice-chairman of Luis Hernandez and also include T&T’s Keith Look Loy, St Kitts/Nevis’ Peter Jenkins and former Jamaican World Cup referee Peter Prendergast. The committee is empowered the consult all different stakeholders in football, various committees and panels, national governments, leagues and players, coaches and supporters clubs.

He also revealed  the relocating of the CFU Marketing Division from Kingston Jamaica to Port of Spain Trinidad where Horace Reid will take up position of marketing consultant.

“The Executive Committee felt that it would be better to have this office in what is considered the financial capital of the Caribbean,” Warner said. It would also allow the CFU to hand in hand with its sponsors Digicel which pledged its future support for the development of the game in the region through group sponsorship manager Kieran Foley who was at the Congress.

Warner said there would be a more aggressive policy adopted towards the promotions of CFU competitions and more efficient conduct of events such as the Boys and Girls Under 15 tournament which will now be held annually as an Under 15 event only, as well as the Digicel Caribbean Cup for national senior teams.
 
Warner made it clear too that the Union will go all out to assist its members in their acquisition of facilities for international matches. He added that football matches would save the newly constructed and renovated facilities for the Cricket World Cup from becoming white elephants.

“We have the feeling that Governments in the English speaking Caribbean have no regards when it comes to spending money for cricket facilities but we want to let you know that the flags of the different countries in the Caribbean are not flown on the field of cricket but instead on the field of football and so too is the playing of the national anthems.

“They have said that these facilities will be only for Cricket but I want to tell you that the only way these facilities will not become white elephants is by having football matches. Check it yourself and you would notice that if you put Barbados and Antigua to play a football game particularly a World Cup qualifying match it will draw much bigger crowds than if you put them to play a cricket match

“Yet our Governments are spending almost scandalously for cricket and to those governments who say that the facilities are only for cricket we want to say to you that time will tell,” Warner added to the ovation of the members present at the Congress.

He also relayed that the Mexican Federation disclosed that it will partner the CFU by setting up workshops for coaches, trainers and other members of staff from this region. And the US Soccer Federation will also provide training for national team administrators later this year. (Shaun Fuentes in Curacao, March 28, 2007.Photo shows Warner with Chuck Blazer and the CFU Members at the end of the CFU Congress on Wednesday.)

 
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on April 08, 2007, 11:58:39 AM
Let us campaign against blacklisting by Jackula now! Daiz de height of nastiness  >:( . Start de pressure now to ensure that Stern, Jones, Scotty, Glen, Wolfe, Samuel, Birch, Whitley, Carlos, Toussaint, Baptiste, Spann, Theobald, Sancho, Gray, Tallest. Jack, Ince   and de rest all geh a chance to represent at de Gold Cup. Lobby-pressure people. We at de crossroads. This is it! Doh let all dat talent go to waste please. Lobby also for any players of potential that geyyin' a look now.


Dat right back fella (Drayton?) from Connection who played against Chivas should get a look but of course Jackula done say dat his Joe Public's Seon Power ha to geh pick...

"or elth no thocawarriorth will play again in thith thentury and there will be no contracth fuh anybothy  to play overtheath." " I am Thack Warner and I own this counthy  >:( . I own the thocawarriorth, I own the TheeTheeFF,  I own all the TV righth, Thimpaul, all the hotelth, the UNTHEE, the rothi and doubleth thold by all the catereth, even the thoilet paper in the thadium wathroom that yuh uth to wipe yuh bumthee". I even own the righth to blacklith any thporth perthon till they go on their kneeth and call me Uncle Thack.

"I want to own Thaka Hithlop, Thwight Yorke, Brenth Thancho and the thocawarriorth.neth ....  but them damn playerth are thuing me! Thit man!".



Thank you Lasana for revealing the truth with what will be the breakthrough article  ;D ;) :wavetowel: :whip:  Of course Incey has jumped ship (for now)

Players claim blacklist in effect.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).
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The Radical 16:

Avery John, Anthony Wolfe, Atiba Charles, Aurtis Whitley, Brent Sancho, Christopher Birchall, Collin Samuel, Cornell Glen, Cyd Gray, Evans Wise, Ian Cox, Kelvin Jack, Kenwyne Jones, Marvin Andrews, Shaka Hislop, Stern John.

Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: Brownsugar on April 08, 2007, 06:18:27 PM
Dreamer I really applaud you on sticking with this  :applause: :applause:.....this here is madness yuh know...it just has to stop.....man....it's just got to stop...
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on April 26, 2007, 07:08:38 PM
Hooray, another four more years of Jack Warner and corruption


http://www.worldcupblog.org/general-banter/hooray-another-four-more-years-of-jack-warner-and-corruption.html

Fellas, keep up de pressure an' keep yuh eye on de ball. Sancho, we eh fuhget yuh. Hol' on breds
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on April 28, 2007, 01:22:59 PM
So Scamps finally admit to blacklisting. Nice. All along he was sayin' "me eh know nutten 'bout dat". Scoundrel!

Of course Jackula was saying "They will never play for the thoca warriorth again ethpethially if they are thuing me. "

Steuupppsssssssss!!  >:(
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: Brownsugar on April 29, 2007, 04:36:24 AM
So Scamps finally admit to blacklisting. Nice. All along he was sayin' "me eh know nutten 'bout dat". Scoundrel!
Of course Jackula was saying "They will never play for the thoca warriorth again ethpethially if they are thuing me. "

Steuupppsssssssss!!  >:(

Dreamer ah was now commenting on dat in another post.....and ah thought ah was wrong when ah quote Scamps and de person who say he eh know nutten bout no blacklist....

Now all of a sudden it is against FIFA rules....
Forumite, leave it so, we like it so..... >:(
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on April 29, 2007, 01:34:56 PM
Where Big Mag? Action time (yes,  >:(  even while we celebrating and drunk with Carlos's goal and Sunlun's promotion). We is big men and need to multitask. Setta scamps........jackulas.....and rodents!  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on April 30, 2007, 06:14:53 PM

Time to urgently send letters to de Express, Guardian, Newsday, Weeklies,  Minister of Sports, THA, UNC, COP,  Inter Religious Organization (IRO), The President,The Prime Minister, Opposition Leader, The Speaker of the House, Leader of the Senate, Independent Senators, The Chamber of Commerce, Royal Bank Young Leaders Committee, Servol, TTFF, BBC, Sunderland Echo, All Sunderland Fan Websites, TV6, CNC3, Sportsmax, Rape Crisis Centre, Trinidad and Tobago Review, UK Footballars Association, Barbados Nation, Jamaican Gleaner, Jamaican Observer, Guyana Starbroek News, Fox Soccer Channel and sports websites like Big Soccer and other blogs.

Letters to Allyson Hennessy, Fuentes, Prescott, Liburd, Valentino Singh, Dave Lammy, Fazeer Mohammed, Andre Baptiste-the fearless one, Peter O'Connor, Bobby Sookram, Ato Boldon, Hasely Crawford, Stephen Ames, Darren Ganga, Wha's de boy who geh de bronze swimming in de olympics? ..... oh ho.. Umm ... George Bovell III. Gally Cummings, Dinanath Ramnarine de cricketer and association president,  Brian Lara, Ranjie Nanan, Clayton Morris, Marlon Morris, Larry Gomes, Basil Ince (columnist and ex-minister of Sports), Raffique Shah, Butcher, Dexter Skeene, Larry Romany, Digicel CEO and Marketing Division, B Mobile CEO and Marketing Division, Maximus Dan, Brother Resistance, Destra, Machel, Denise Plummer,  Bunji Garlin, Cro Cro, Christopher Garcia, Sugar Aloes, Ricki Jai, Triveni Brass, 3 Canal, Chalkdust, Dinesh Ramdin, Singing Sandra. Paul Keens Douglas, Mungal Patasar, VS Naipaul, UWI Guild, www.socawarriorstt.com. TT Proleague website, Pan Trinbago, TTUTA, All Unions,  New York, Toronto and Washington DC West Indian radio station managers and copy de letters to influential people so dey cyah pretend dey never get de letter. Make them accountable in de full glare of de national, regional and international spotlight. Doh study who ha' dey hands tie. Set de pace and dey will jump when it suits their reputation at the right critical time

Flood de media and let de stinkin' kakahole smell of the hidden filthy nastiness of TTFF's exploitation, victimization, persecution and rip-off of our famous just-come-from-Germany Warriors, reach outside and stink up de room like a toollum fart. I eh joking. This is abuse kept secret like in a little dungeon of some backward banana republic, wit' only illiterate people around ruled by some incestuous cannabalistic monarch. Yuh think the world knows, but really in trut' dey eh quite know ..... and wait till yuh hear de gasps from de locals of "I can't believe this is happening" in de best possible "cornvornt" accent when dis hits de news. Write facts (not fiction) people, keep your poise, use proper language, do a spell check an stun people into action. Also emailing is easy peasy.

Get to work!
  >:(

 :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip:
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on April 30, 2007, 06:56:53 PM
So Scamps finally admit to blacklisting. Nice. All along he was sayin' "me eh know nutten 'bout dat". Scoundrel!
Of course Jackula was saying "They will never play for the thoca warriorth again ethpethially if they are thuing me. "
Steuupppsssssssss!!  >:(
Dreamer ah was now commenting on dat in another post.....and ah thought ah was wrong when ah quote Scamps and de person who say he eh know nutten bout no blacklist....
Now all of a sudden it is against FIFA rules....
Forumite, leave it so, we like it so..... >:(

Why the TTFF did not come right out and say this at the beginning?
unfortunately FIFA has all the cards stacked in their favour.
I wonder if these rules go against Labour Laws of any kind?
These players have no method of recourse against an unjust employer....very very sad!
Jackula you ent easy man.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on May 02, 2007, 05:20:55 PM
Yeah "Coast.

Is important to anticipate Jackula' moves. I believe he is planning the following:

1. Jackula is hoping that blackmail, divide and rule will force the socawarriors who are holding out, to give up de lawsuit, feel the pressure of alienation and lost opportunity and come with tail between their legs begging Jackula to be included in the Gold Cup squad. Sancho and John are seen as the current lynchpins of resistance and that once they crack, Jones, Birch, Samuel, Avery, Gray, Jack, Wolfe will follow.

2. Jackula's plan B is that just in case they doh crack, then he takes a big gulp and goes it alone without the top 2 strikers and 3 critical defenders, hoping that somehow the newbies do a ting fuh we and surprise everybody and do well, that super prized "scabs and ship jumpers " such as Carlos and Roberts shine so much that the fans have some glory to distract dem from reflection, criticism and demonstration and everybody forgets Stern, Jones, Sancho, Gray so that he Jackula could start stuttering a new mantra of "Who needs Thancho,Thtern John and thoth other traitorth anyway".

3. Jackula would then knock the lawsuit off the table as he would claim to be negotiating from a position of strength, having made these fickle, stand-for-nothing, wine-on-a-bumsee, drink-and-fete-all-night Trini fans distracted by the marketability and exaggerated hype over Carlos, not that we don't realy respec' de boy. Jackula would then aim to be made Emperor of T&T for life and even weary, truetrini, morvant, trinbago, 'coast, brownsugar and others who feel dey independent and outspoken would at some time have to go on dey knees and humble to de man. Daiz his hope.

4. He would then aim to complete the revisionism of our football history by getting a certain spalkin' man to write a book totally lambasting John, Jones, Jack, Sancho and de rest ensuring that there is complete charcter assassination so that nobody resurrects them as heroes while any of us are alive.

5. Recognizing that a wave of discontent and plans for protest bannersare sweeping over de land, he would try to ensure that all friendly games were  played away to avoid embarrassment.

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What Jackula  was not ready for  >:(.  next.......Stay tuned .
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on May 03, 2007, 04:14:05 AM
What Jackula was not ready for was:

1. Big influential fellas and inside power-players like Ananci spider coming out frankomen and sayin that Jackula pull some skullduggery on we warriors

2. So many sterotypically "laid-back" fans would be driven to bombard de  media and the lobby groups so

3. That Stern-turn-inho, one of the lynchpins of resistance, would get himself, Carlos and Yorkie promoted to the Premiership, effectively taking dem off de ketch-arse-looking-for-recognition-and-chance-to-play-hence-beggin'-Jackula-for-a-chance-nuh list. Stern has immunity now having got promotion, his job security, finacial future now looks real good and quite frankly he eh bound for no Gold Cup. He good to go and he eh need Jackula now (for de first time in his career)....but Jackula needs him!!!!!! Daiz real power dread  >:(

Stay tuned for more on what Jackula was not ready for....
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on May 03, 2007, 04:15:10 AM
allya need to read this book (http://www.transparencyinsport.org/)<--- click here

some more links for people to write to:

http://www.caribbeannews.com/trinidad_political_parties.html

http://www.ttparliament.org/contact.htm

contact your MP here: http://www.ttparliament.org/html/wmmp.htm

http://www.mondotimes.com/1/world/tt

http://radiostationworld.com/Locations/Trinidad_and_Tobago/

newspapers of the Caribbean: http://www.caribbeannewspapers.com/

world sports networks:  http://archive.museophile.org/broadcast/
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: true warrior on May 03, 2007, 05:40:25 AM
Thanks for educating de public, Dreamer. :applause:  A nation perishes for lack of knowledge.  History repeats itself  :shameonyou:  ONLY if it's forgotten. :shameonyou:

The power to change the future is in our hands. There is no greater day than today.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on May 03, 2007, 06:40:02 PM
Respec'

allya need to read this book (http://www.transparencyinsport.org/)<--- click here


Wheysss! Dis book looking deadly, dread. Someting coming dong people. If I were Jackula I would start planning de escape now oui, get false passport and a new identity an' ting to live off de Swsiss bank account in Chile or some place so yes.

Papayo!
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: true warrior on May 05, 2007, 02:50:35 AM
We need a Sports Museum.   The History of this nation must be carved in stone and preserved for generations..........less we forget.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on May 06, 2007, 03:46:55 PM
Anybody hear da rumor dat Jackula was seen in public cryin' today?
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: Jah Gol on May 06, 2007, 03:49:27 PM
Anybody hear da rumor dat Jackula was seen in public cryin' today?
Cryin fuh wa ?
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on May 06, 2007, 03:56:45 PM
Anybody hear da rumor dat Jackula was seen in public cryin' today?
wah happen?
he drop ah penny in de gutter ;)
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on May 07, 2007, 05:22:45 AM
Respec'
allya need to read this book (http://www.transparencyinsport.org/)<--- click here
Wheysss! Dis book looking deadly, dread. Someting coming dong people. If I were Jackula I would start planning de escape now oui, get false passport and a new identity an' ting to live off de Swsiss bank account in Chile or some place so yes.
Papayo!
Contact info for Mr Jennings here. (http://www.playthegame.org/Knowledge%20Bank/Authors/Andrew%20Jennings.aspx)

read an article about Blatter and his possible re-election here ("But Warner's power is declining. Five members of CONCACAF have declined to support him.")  (http://www.playthegame.org/Knowledge%20Bank/Articles/How%20Blatter%20is%20planning%20to%20rig%20the%20vote%20which%20could%20oust%20him.aspx)
if allya want to Contact the Member Nations of CONCACAF go here (http://www.concacaf.com/associations.asp) and look on the right side.
here is the contact info for all the FIFA  207 affiliated associations. (http://www.fifa.com/en/organisation/na/index.html)
maybe y'all can let all these people know how our good friend  ::) treats Our Football Heroes. (  :-[ Blacklist :-[ )
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: true warrior on May 08, 2007, 06:19:39 PM
Dis is History in the making... :violin:
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De same story but a different song
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on May 12, 2007, 06:43:43 PM
Since Andre hosted Wim Rijsbergen on I 95.5 today, there is definitely more pressue on Jackula to stop de foolishness.

Wim came across as definitely in favour of football unions as he went throughnthe same thing. Also he is part of a Dutch equivalent of FPATT and is also a member of a coahes union and let's de lawyer handle any crap that he may face or ppersecution etc.

Wim made it clear that the players should havestuck together and made their case stronger. In principle he is kinda in support

He decided to show that he is not as wimpy as the press makes him out to look and made it clear that he was not afraid to say that Jackula eh pay him for 3 months. Whether de money dat FIFA sent was diverted to his son's corrupton case penalty is not we problem.

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=27574.0

Apparently Wim is working behind de scenes telling Jackula to stop playin' de ass wit' we team and stop de blacklist. He just does not want to be in de front page of de papers doing it.  He did us a big favour by consistently using that word (blacklist) over and over till it began to hurt de ears of de listeners. Blacklisting is now a household term. Thank you Andre and Wim for exposing de stinkin' nastiness dat Jackula is up to and sensitizing de public. Landmark interview. Thanks to the footsoldiers on socawarriors.net for creating a small part of thr pressure. Leh we not stop  >:(

Apparently also, Jackula was forced, yes I say forced, to finally release a budget of how de money is to be spent on de coaches and Boynes is releasing funds. Excellent. Accountability is de watch word!!!!!!!  >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: kentsoulman on May 13, 2007, 06:08:33 AM
Since Andre hosted Wim Rijsbergen on I 95.5 today, there is definitely more pressue on Jackula to stop de foolishness.

Wim came across as definitely in favour of football unions as he went throughnthe same thing. Also he is part of a Dutch equivalent of FPATT and is also a member of a coahes union and let's de lawyer handle any crap that he may face or ppersecution etc.

Wim made it clear that the players should havestuck together and made their case stronger. In principle he is kinda in support

He decided to show that he is not as wimpy as the press makes him out to look and made it clear that he was not afraid to say that Jackula eh pay him for 3 months. Whether de money dat FIFA sent was diverted to his son's corrupton case penalty is not we problem.

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=27574.0

Apparently Wim is working behind de scenes telling Jackula to stop playin' de ass wit' we team and stop de blacklist. He just does not want to be in de front page of de papers doing it.  He did us a big favour by consistently using that word (blacklist) over and over till it began to hurt de ears of de listeners. Blacklisting is now a household term. Thank you Andre and Wim for exposing de stinkin' nastiness dat Jackula is up to and sensitizing de public. Landmark interview. Thanks to the footsoldiers on socawarriors.net for creating a small part of thr pressure. Leh we not stop  >:(

Apparently also, Jackula was forced, yes I say forced, to finally release a budget of how de money is to be spent on de coaches and Boynes is releasing funds. Excellent. Accountability is de watch word!!!!!!!  >:( >:(

Nice comments Dreamer.

This is exactly how the pressure is stepped up. More and more people are seeing that the players are being unfairly treated. Wim cannot speak against his employers directly, but by saying he was a member of a players union, he is really saying that he supports FPATT.

Wim just wants the freedom to select his best squad. He's got to perform as a manager to keep his job, so its a matter of survival for him.

FPATT need to attract more comments of support from football people around the world, to keep pressure on.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on May 17, 2007, 07:28:07 PM
People, this Jackula, Scamps and Rodent (J,S & R) saga is destroying our football just when we are showing more potential than ever to have top quality players in all positions playing high intensity professional football.

We need to get our act together, educate ourselves on local football, revise our posts, contribute to the threads and pass the word out to friends, encourage guests to sign up and post, support Lasana and Jennings, familiiarize ourselves with TTFF constitutional conspiracies, communicate privately with the Warriors on strategy, get the FPA going, write to the so-called mainstream newspapers and let J,S & R know that their propaganda attempts will not prevail.

We have only a few weeks before it will be finalized who will be blacklisted and barred from representing T&T..... and trust me, public pressure and newspaper spin (as ordered by Jackula  >:(  ) will have alot to do with this.

Let us not watch idly by and let the potentially great careers of Stern-turn-inho, Jones, Scotland, Wolfe, Glen, Birchall, Whitley, Theobald, Tallest, Sancho, Gray, Ince, Jack and others go down the drain when they are on the verge and perfectly poised to conquer Concacaf, appear in South Africa 2010 and set the stage for the younger ones in the production-line to follow.

Let us not allow our country to be sabotaged because of voracious greed, nepotisn and cronyism by a bunch of corrupt, blood-sucking, unpatriotic, manipulative, exploitative, back-stabbing, career-destroying and blackmail-inclined youth destroyers  >:(  who would rather fill their pockets to the brim than see T&T do well with a little less in their pockets

In case some of the several "guests" on this board don't realize, those above-mentioned Warriors read this board too. Even Ato Boldon reads and posts regularly (nuff respec' to him for that) and he seems to have decided to distance himself (a little) from Jackula now. For those who are being given spin about how innocent and sweet Jackula and baby Jackula are, just check on the amount of damning info generated by the workhorses on this site, a small fraction of which I tried to capture in generation of the thread.

It is obvious that many players are grabbing the opportunity (wisely I must say) to optimally position themselves for the wave of persecution coming by April/May in preparation for the June Gold Cup. There is a mad rush to change PFL clubs, join PFL clubs, head to the UK, Europe, USA and even Vietnam in order to save their careers. The sad thing is many will still not get on this evacuating boat. In this regard, the Footballers Players' Association is critical in protecting the welfare of our players and making sure that wickedness will never make them go hungry and end up as vagrants when their playing days are over or when they get an injury. Vulnerability is a recipe for explioitation.

Is crunch time fellas. Time to act, to write, to read, to influence, to be an advocate, to lobby, to move..........to slay. That's right, I said to slay. Jackula is preparing his army and if we are not ready, then we deserve to be slaves to his "mighty" enslavers. I like to crack a few jokes, but ah feel too passionate about this to clown around right now. Seeeeeerious bizness! Pen is power, not talk. Talk usually cyah lead to a lawsuit.



And so said.....Is like a script dat Jackula performing to oui. He really is very predictable and eh da bright really. Jackula could geh string up wit some booby trap easy peasy if we give it a little thought. Small ting dread.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on May 18, 2007, 08:36:22 PM
The mind of Jackula.


Fellas, let me tell yuh something eh.   :thinking:  Boy ah doh know how to say this......

Ok here we go. The very very dangerous thing, and I dare say frightening thing, about Jackula is that he epitomizes the most dangerous and darkest side of human nature. A Machiavellian, manipulative, deceiptful, personality who swears by, proudly uses and indoctrinates his "disciples" in a (by-any-means-necessary-I-will-trample-kill-lie-betray-steal-blackmail-hijack-abuse-intimidate) philosophy to get what he wants in life. It's an attitude that is completely and frighteningly devoid of a moral compass and is ...well.....tantamount to almost evil dread. I say this with no joke now.


I am convinced that without that spiritual rudder  :praying: to guide your deeds and intentions your purpose in life is jess a pseudo-purpose going nowhere, driven by an insatiable apetite for more corruptly acquired bonanzas and forming relationships of no genuine glue but the temporary leech-like need to exploit  :cheers: and suck the blood from the host until it becomes a corpse and yuh keep moving on like a hyena  :heehee:  till a next carnivore of the jungle rips you now to shreds with the same venomous hate that you previously projected on other prey in the jungle. It all comes around eventually like an eat-before-you-geh eaten food chain. Right now, at this moment Jackula is on top de food chain. But only for a while, never in de long run to be worth it.


For alot of people on this board, and I will not call names, Jackula is a role model  :salute: :notworthy:  maybe partly because some of these folks are from a particular generation, an unintentional product of the current hip-hop culture (at least one side of, and the worst side that the media chooses to promote) :afro:  They might not really know intimately or fully, the moral bankruptcy of Jackula, but they are drawn superficially to and admire  :salute:  his image of "presumed" success, mega-wealth   :violin: , international social climbing of the highest degree and the intoxicating feeling of having power over people  :whip:  who you would otherwise expect to express their contempt  :puking: for you.



The hip-hop generation, especially the men, have a recurrent theme, especially in their videos, that reflects being starved of and insatiably hungry for:
Respect  :bringiton: ; Power; Instant money; Trappings of overpowering wealth and bling; Immunity to rejection by women; Revenge for emasculation by society; Compensation of emasculation by a cathartic tables-turn-now "pimp and hoe" excess; ( like Snoop-Dog  :chilling: :mackdaddy: :party: :whistling: :afro: ), to the degree of runnin' an unmanageable harem where you are the ultimate provider (in TTFF fashion); Leveling of the playing field based on using financial power as leverage to smash open the discriminatory doors. Even fantasies of having the ultimate weapon..the gun.



All of this is a heavy heavy reaction to psychological abuse  :whip:  that is handled by this kinda acting out  :waiting: . Is one disease, with Jackula having these same unmet needs  :frustrated: and responses in a now different compartment of society


Jackula, I believe was a very deeply tormented  >:( , as he calls it, "zero to hero". The zero, taken from the title of his book, says alot. The hero is an unmet delusion  :angel: . I believe he is trying to super-compensate, but his brain damage from abuse  :banginghead:  :busshead: is so intense, that it manifests and has cross-fertilized with some other very dark intoxicating, almost  :devil: :devil:  evil, elements. Hence the product, Jackula, the mutant international sociopath in jacket and tie, feeding off others, totally immune to the concept of right and wrong, like a chameleon   :heehee: in his musical-chairs allegiances that can last from 5 years to 5 hours depending on the quest and the value of the prize for which he salivates  :drool: . Jackula, the sociopath that gets almost orgasmic joy  :justkidding: :rotfl:  in seeing others beg for him to be provider while he acts out a constant gripe of why he has to provide  :arguing: . The power to be SOLE provider instead of SOLE LONELY beggar was actually the fantasy come real for him  ;D .



Whatever the attraction to the temporary apparent gains, people, I promise you that this will end in a lonely return to disaster  :-[ , psychological collapse  :'( and often gruesome end  :nailbiting:  just like for Saddam, Noriega, Papa Doc, Dole Chadee, Hitler, Mussolini (de ultimate Machiavellian sicko), dat fella from Liberia......ahmmm.....Charles Taylor, Mano Benjamin and other abusers.


So really and truly, to get involved in a discussion  :arguing: of  whether Jackula is good or not for our football is a pointless exercise  :yawning: :duel: . A man like that will unfortunately fall on his sword and pull all his associates down in the flame with him   :flamethrower: . I'm sorry.  :'(


So leh we geh past de stage of debating whether he is good for us, other than a necessary evil, and prepare for rehabilitating his captives while we anticipate and plan for his stunning demise.
  :beermug:


Operation FPATT. Keep we eye on de ball
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: true warrior on May 19, 2007, 05:38:44 AM
Read
Operation FPATT. Keep we eye on de ball

Chameleon
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f6/Chameleon-jpatokal.jpg)
The name "chameleon" means "Earth lion" and is derived from the Greek words chamai (on the ground, on the earth) and leon (lion).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chameleon

A simple test....How Machiavellian Are You?   Click here  (http://killeenroos.com/2/Machiavelli.htm)
Get your score  here  (http://killeenroos.com/2/Machans.htm)
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on May 19, 2007, 10:35:36 AM
Daiz a wicked post true warrior. Ah using your research work dey. Let's see.

Leh we say de answers for agree, undecided, disagree are (a), (u) and (d) respectively. Then below are de answers dat little Jackula (Jackulito) would have given when he was in school wit' his lunch kit and gettin' heckle and tap up for his thy tongue.

                                    How Machiavellian Are You? (Courtesy true warrior)

Statements:                                                                                      Agree Undecided Disagree

Class: Mornin' Miss
Teacher: Everybody do their homework?
Class: Yeeeeeeeeeess Miss  ;D
Teacher: Ok Jackulito, let me see your homework answers.
Jackulito: Steupppsss!! How dis go help me. Look take yuh chuppid paper  >:(
Teacher: Hello, li'l boy wha' yuh say to me. Come here!!!!!
Jackulito:  ???  :o  :nailbiting:
Teacher: Ah said come here!!!   >:( >:(  Yuh hear me!?
Jackulito:  :notlistening: :notlistening:
Teacher: .... rushes into de back room and brings out a frightening weapon
Jackulito:  :-[  .......then before he could say "blacklist", he feels a  :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: all ova he backside, then he reluctantly releases his copybook for Miss to read.

Jackulito's answers:

1. Most people are honest       (d)
2. Most people think first of their pocket-books and later about right and wrong     (a) 
3. To get someone to like you, tell that person what he/she wants to hear.   (a)   
4. The best way to earn someone's respect is to be kind and honest     (d) 
5. The best way to earn someone's loyalty is show him or her your power.    (a)   
6. There are no absolute rights and wrongs. "Right" is what works.       (a)
7. A good president reads the polls to find out what people want and makes those things his policies.  (u) 
8. Most people are extremely selfish.      (u)
9. A promise is a sacred trust.      (d)
10. Nice guys finish last.      (a)
 
If your Machiavellian Score Is:

10-23 (Type A)
You are not at all Machiavellian. Some would say you are an idealist and an optimist about human nature. You have strong ideas about right and wrong.

24-36 (Type B)
You are more cautious about trusting human nature and less idealistic than those above. You know that selfishness can sometimes get in the way of lofty ideals.

37-50 (Type C)
You are extremely Machiavellian. Practical to the point of being a hard-headed cynic, not very trusting about human nature, and ready to deal with what is, rather than what ought to be.

Which Type are You?

JACKULITO'S SCORE 38!!  EXTREME MAC DREAD  :-[ :-[ :-[   ....and nutten eh change since dem days!


Niccolo Machiavelli:  Renaissance Political Thinker

One of the most important books of the Renaissance was a small volume called The Prince written by Niccolo Machiavelli (1469-1527). Machiavelli had been a government worker, close to powerful men, but never a leader himself. In this book he offered advice to princes on how to rule. His political philosophy (ideas on government) was startling. It was different from medieval ideas about the proper duties, obligations and policies of good rulers.
Where did Machiavelli get such ideas? Clearly not from the Bible. Nor did they come from the ancient Greek ( Athenian) philosophers who stressed the well-being of the entire community and the rule of law. His best sources were the rulers he observed--Franciesco Sforza, Lorenzo do Medici, and above all, Cesare Borgia. The biographies of these men reveal them to be powerful, tricky, and often dishonest. Some historians question whether or not Machiavelli was really as amoral (without standards of right and wrong) as he sounds. Perhaps he was actually making fun of men like Borgia and exposing the extremes to which they would go to keep themselves in power. Whatever his purpose the adjective Machiavellian" has come to mean unscrupulous, amoral, tricky, and manipulative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chameleon (courtesy true warrior)
 

Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: Savannah boy on May 19, 2007, 11:21:51 AM
Is dis post going to last forever? 
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: true warrior on May 24, 2007, 04:40:42 PM
Mr. J, ease up on the Soca Warriors .....nah!!!!    Yah cyah be so hard hearted on ya own Trini stars.    :banginghead: :notlistening: :justkidding:
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: Worry-er on May 26, 2007, 05:08:20 PM
I am just amazed about this information about Mr Warner. I could hardly absorb it all. How come I have to come on this site to see all this? I am stunned. Thanks to the people who run this football site.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: true warrior on May 27, 2007, 09:28:10 AM
I think soon there will be an explosion in de pressure cooker, read http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=28014.0
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on June 30, 2007, 12:29:30 PM
Explosion is right.

Peter wait, Peter wait, look Jackula by de gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait! Bun he, bun he...

Mr attorney sah, look look, ah have some files to help yuh wit de lawsuit and cross examination.

Time to revise de history on Jackula.  ;D

 :challenge: :challenge: :challenge: :challenge: :challenge:
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on June 30, 2007, 01:02:45 PM
I think soon there will be an explosion in de pressure cooker, read http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=28014.0

YES, True Warrior..
all we can do is HOPE!!!
HOPE for change in the relationship between players and the TTFF.
HOPE that ALL players, local or Foreign, can feel comfortable that they can bring concerns and difference of opinions forward without threats of being BlackListed.
HOPE that there will one day be transparency within the TTFF.
HOPE that one day the TTFF and Players both work TOGETHER for the best possible outcome in our quest for any Tournament.
HOPE that Player welfare, education, insurance, contract education, contract negotiation, attorney assistance, loans, career guidance, protection from exploitation, networking  and general support will one day be a reality.

HOPE my friends HOPE. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope) <-- click here
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: Brownsugar on June 30, 2007, 07:55:49 PM
I am just amazed about this information about Mr Warner. I could hardly absorb it all. How come I have to come on this site to see all this? I am stunned. Thanks to the people who run this football site.

Because except for Lasana Liburd and the Express.....all the other print media apparently fraid Jackula and his power.....

Dat is why we shouldn't take dis stance by the Jacklisted 16 lightly.....

DOH BACK DOWN FELLAS!!!.....GIVE DEM HELL!!!....
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: Brownsugar on June 30, 2007, 07:58:03 PM
Is dis post going to last forever? 

Yes Savannah Boy....lest we forget.....
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on July 01, 2007, 06:30:23 AM
Yeah "Coast.

Is important to anticipate Jackula' moves. I believe he is planning the following:

1. Jackula is hoping that blackmail, divide and rule will force the socawarriors who are holding out, to give up de lawsuit, feel the pressure of alienation and lost opportunity and come with tail between their legs begging Jackula to be included in the Gold Cup squad. Sancho and John are seen as the current lynchpins of resistance and that once they crack, Jones, Birch, Samuel, Avery, Gray, Jack, Wolfe will follow.

2. Jackula's plan B is that just in case they doh crack, then he takes a big gulp and goes it alone without the top 2 strikers and 3 critical defenders, hoping that somehow the newbies do a ting fuh we and surprise everybody and do well, that super prized "scabs and ship jumpers " such as Carlos and Roberts shine so much that the fans have some glory to distract dem from reflection, criticism and demonstration and everybody forgets Stern, Jones, Sancho, Gray so that he Jackula could start stuttering a new mantra of "Who needs Thancho,Thtern John and thoth other traitorth anyway".

3. Jackula would then knock the lawsuit off the table as he would claim to be negotiating from a position of strength, having made these fickle, stand-for-nothing, wine-on-a-bumsee, drink-and-fete-all-night Trini fans distracted by the marketability and exaggerated hype over Carlos, not that we don't realy respec' de boy. Jackula would then aim to be made Emperor of T&T for life and even weary, truetrini, morvant, trinbago, 'coast, brownsugar and others who feel dey independent and outspoken would at some time have to go on dey knees and humble to de man. Daiz his hope.

4. He would then aim to complete the revisionism of our football history by getting a certain spalkin' man to write a book totally lambasting John, Jones, Jack, Sancho and de rest ensuring that there is complete charcter assassination so that nobody resurrects them as heroes while any of us are alive.

5. Recognizing that a wave of discontent and plans for protest bannersare sweeping over de land, he would try to ensure that all friendly games were  played away to avoid embarrassment.

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What Jackula  was not ready for  >:(.  next.......Stay tuned .


....FPATT, Shaka, Kevin Harrison, SW.net, Sancho's resolve and Carlos's and Ince's character and repositioning on the ethical "ship" after they seemed to have jump ship. Brilliant set up chess move.
Of course the Tief Tief F F never thought that a lawsuit in dey kakhole was really coming and that nuff people would start donating to support legal fees. Is like dey open a pandora's box and every body all over de world want a piece ah Jackula head now.   :whip: :whip:
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: Savannah boy on July 01, 2007, 12:52:30 PM
Yuh come back again...is record yuh trying and break here?
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: takenoprisoners on September 15, 2007, 04:33:51 PM
Is dis post going to last forever? 

Thanks Dreamer. :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: broko on September 15, 2007, 07:41:01 PM
Well spoken dreamer
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: Joe Public on September 16, 2007, 04:04:16 PM
The bloke is a complete cock, i am ashamed to say i share his surname.  How a bloke like that gets to such a position i'll never know, why is it that the greatest game on earth has to be run by total and complete bell ends?  ???
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on November 02, 2007, 09:06:55 PM
I had to go back to page 15 to find this Thread.
Dreamer has done alot of work so as to inform those who dont know
So, for the benefit of people like Diambars, I am bumping this back to page 1
Please take a few moments of your time to read through this thread
here is the start of the thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=24764.msg271021#msg271021)
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: kentsoulman on November 04, 2007, 09:01:38 AM
West Coast/Dreamer, this thread should be maintained and brought back every few months as a history lesson to new members and a reminder to the others. I just read through this again and in light of the recent Panorama programme, have a question to ask.

The allegation by McBeth that Warner asked for money to be paid into his personal account made me think about Warners ability to move funds around in his best interest.

If that were true and TTFF money did go into his account, this would give him total control of TTFF money and how its spent. I wonder if the same thing happened with FIFA and CONCACAF funds. I'm not suggesting he used this money to make himself richer. But we see a lot of press about Jack personally paying for coaches wages etc. So if the money comes from his account, it makes him politically stronger, yet that money may originally be TTFF funds. The money is still reaching its intended target, but via Jack to give him this hero status. This may not be wrong from Jacks point of view, just "doing business" and he may never have benefitted financially. This may be how he's gained so much power, and thereby, as far as Jacks concerned, a ligitimate way of achieving more for Trinidad football.

When you consider the $173 million that was supposedly received, if some of that was paid into Jacks accounts, then he could make the great gesture of "personally" funding flights for people, obtaining tickets, paying for peoples food and hotel bills and generally buying favours.

The interesting thing is that when the case reaches arbitration, TTFFs income will be scrutinised minutely. So if, for instance, KFC paid money to TTFF, the arbitrator will want to see the money enter TTFFs accounts. If it doesn't, as I understand it, the arbitrator can access all bank accounts of Warner, Camps, Roden, their familes and businesses to trace the money.

If it shows that TTFF were paid $173 million, but only $100 million actually went through TTFF accounts, I would imagine the Trinidad Govt or Trinidad fraud police will automatically become involved. Particularly if there was an agreement whereby the govt matched all sponsorship and therefore public funds are involved.

I don't know how things work in Trinidad, but in England, this would be the biggest story of the year. Look at the recent coverage over Peter Risdales accusation over the Rio bung. Questions would be asked in Parliament and a public inquiry would be put in place. This would culminate in prison sentances for any wrongdoing and certain barring from football administration. In the UK, MPs have gone to prison for their wrongdoings. Multi millionaire author and MP Jeffery Archer went to prison for (I think) 4 years for perjury! How many lies have been told so far to cover up financial irregularities? Didn't TTFF present two different sets of accounts to the sports minister and they still didn't come close to the truth.

I think this will run for years, and anybody who even took a Carib from Warner and friends will be investigated.

Out of interest, how are fraud cases investigated in T&T. Are the processes thorough and robust and are the police able to stay focused? 
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on November 04, 2007, 10:41:14 AM
Kentsoulman,
in my extremely small humble opinion, everything you mention there is correct concerning HERO Jackula. he certainly tells people that All monies come from Him, so people are left GaGa (= awe struck) saying
"Thank You Thank You, you did it out of the kindness of your own heart, you used your own money, what a wonderful man you are, what a humanitarian"........and on and on and on..........you get my drift ;)
Jackula to me is just "A full belly man telling hungry belly men to keep heart"

JMHO: well if I was a betting man, Jackula's accounts are probably hidden or to be more realistic, his accounts have the appearance that there are in fact TTFF accounts.
Being the Special Advisor puts him in an unenviable position, compared to the people in the TTFF, of not being responsible for many things that the TTFF could be accused of
........hmmmmmmm,  As Shakespeare's Marcellus would say: "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark."

"I don't know how things work in Trinidad, but in England, this would be the biggest story of the year."..
well, Kenstoulman,  in my opinion, we DO things very differently in TnT, as past history has shown that court cases do not seem to follow precedent like in other jurisdictions.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: kentsoulman on November 04, 2007, 11:09:55 AM
Which, no doubt, i the reason the players lawyer was happy for the arbitration to take place in London.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: pardners on November 05, 2007, 01:55:51 PM
I suppose that today being elections day in T&T, from as early as 10PM tonight we would see the board light up with threads commenting on Jacks aspirations to be the prime minister of T&T.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: E-man on November 05, 2007, 03:27:43 PM
What is it with the name Jack Warner

Here is a quote from the time writers in Hollywood tried to unionize in the 30's - sound familiar?

Quote
Addressing his scribes, Jack Warner said anyone who joined a union full of "radical bastards and soap-box SOBs" would find themselves out of work forever, adding with a classic Warner-esque flourish that "it wouldn't be a blacklist because it would all be done over the telephone."
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on November 26, 2007, 05:29:36 AM
Bump
TriniScout,
I invite you to read this thread from the start.
Thank You
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on December 06, 2007, 03:48:19 AM
Bump.....
For the benefit of John Barnes........Open your eyes Man!!!!!
from what you say in this thread (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=32606.msg376738#msg376738), you dont want to admit we have a major problem in TnT.
"It’s a business now and once upon a time people were being exploited, particularly in Africa, and of course someone as powerful as Jack Warner will ensure that the players and the associations of this region who may have been exploited once upon a time will now not be exploited and they will benefit from having Jack on board,” Barnes added."
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on December 25, 2007, 10:26:31 AM
Thanks to Just Cool,
another Forumites perspective on Jackula.
Evil is Jackula.
TO SUPA, all the best for the new year bro,BC I man don't celebrate lies, so the new yr greeting IMO will be more appropriate. anyway supa, the man JW is ah real mercenary, he is also a hater of good will, just like every leader that took the helm of any post Independence Caribbean nation, with the exception of Errol barrow,Maurice bishop, Dr Walter Rodney, and Dr Eric Williams, of whom i believe stole money from us but also did a lot of good for the nation, so i exonerate these few men, but all the rest are bums, including jack, plus i hate ppl who abuse their authority of which JW is ever so guilty.

yuh know for years I'm hearing of how much wickedness that man has done to his own ppl, but i never got into it, you know living in a foreign country does have yuh caught up in your own affair seeking the bounty of the land trying to set up yourself in life,immediate gratification so to speak, does take precedence over all, so i never study him until i met ah youth in manhattan who played for the senior team in the 80ies, we became good friends and he let me into the world of Trinidad football.

I don't want to make an article of this ,even though it warrant's that kind of attention , but i will cut it short. the things i heard from him and other former players about T&T football made tears come to my eyes , and that very hard to do BC i'm a rough tough soldier who's been through hell in life, and my tears hard to come by , but when them bredders let me in on that F##in DOG, and his MO, it made me sad and enraged all at once.

the final straw was when he betrayed the 2006 soca worriors wid the small money he stole, and if that wasn't bad enough , he black listed the players BC they stood up to him, and if that wasn't bad enough, instead of him taking the momentum from comming off such a huge tourney and building on it with the up and comming youths , he opted to distroy that for crumbs, ah man wid multimillions, and if that wasn't bad enough.

 the man suspended the football BC he couldn't get his hands on the government money fast enough, sending the dutch man packin with no pay, and if that wasn't bad enough , he send ah bum team to make we look bad in the eyes of the region at the GC, when everyone even foreigners were looking forward to the team that drive england and Sweden in the ground, just BC of bad mind and greed, as you know he sent a C team to embarrass the nation.

 supa is yrs that man interupting the flow, with each campaign is unrest and strife. GERMANY in 74 with the Haiti controversy he sold out to the mafia and set up the ref to dunn we, 82 with the WC in Spain (he banned the best players), 89 with Italy he oversell the stadium plus he sabotage the players by bringing them all the way from south in traffic to such an important game, 2001 with japan he set up his coach to pick the team he want, together with poor coaching cost us, post germany 2006. he says of his verbal contract, i didn't say it was from the gross, then he said i was drunk and excited from the draw with Sweden, need i say more. supa i believe in karma! what goes around come's around. money can't be more valuable than ppl's sweat and dedication. and yes i hate him for that, he's a real vampire.

PS don't forget the latest, getting rid of yuh head coach at such a critical time, with no comparable replacement. he's setting we up for failiur again, all in the name of $. look at peltier, guerra and hyland, he could've helped those youths if he really wanted, how could he say that he love the game in T&T, instead he set up mc commie to blank the young men, how in the world yuh could like ah fella like that  ! common bro.

Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on February 02, 2008, 11:39:06 AM
another great post from TT

Listen, we had coaches who said that our Local league and players wasn't good enough, but for several years did nutten to assist or help change the standard.

We have ah setta shit hounds in charge of we Federation for umpteen years.

On reflection it is indeed sad to castigate and excoriate the locals when they too have insurmontable obstacles, ala Jack, Groden and Camps to scale.

Our football has been in a stagnated state forever, MANY HERE FEEL THAT WE HAD some sort of advancement becasue we SCRAPED, barely so into a world Cup via the play off route, on the last day of qualification too!!

The truth is that we made it to the World Cup despite, and in spite of the TTFF and Jack warner.

Let me remind you that even a BROKEN CLOCK IS RIGHT TWICE IN A DAY!


Jack warner and his yes men cronies, are nothing but a self serving bunch, who could really care about football beyond what it means to their wallets.

Let me serve as a reminder again, do you all remember the overcrowding of the National Stadium due to Jack's overselling of tickets? 

Even on what was supposed to be our BIGGEST sporting date back in 1989, whne the entire nation was caught up in the promise of our first World Cup appearance, Jack Warner was preoccupied with profiteering from the overselling of admission tickets!

His penchant for ticket sales was again manifested during his Infamous..: "Ticket or Leave it fiasco,"  which was given ample coverage by Andrew Jennings and most eloquently by our own Lasana Liburd.

His lack of care for the state of our football was again illustrated when he reneged on his agreement to pay out appearance and advertising compensation to our World Cup heroes.

His scorn for our football was highlighted when he Jack-Listed the same players when he stated that they were greedy, too old to represent the nation again, ungrateful, because they had the gumption to challenge him and HIS Federation.

His colusion to cancel friendlies due to lack of funds, is further evidence that he gives little care and love for OUR football. 

If anyone cares to examine the FACTS, they will see that Jack Warner is NOT responsible for our nation's first appearance in the World Cup, but rather he is the cause why we have not made more appearances on that illustrious stage!

Jack Warner has manipulated football in T&T to such an extent that he cannot be legitimately challenged nor his power usurped!  He has changed the structure of the leagues, changed the Constitution of the TTFF so that the voting is in his favour, he has surrounded himself with a gaggle of yes-men and he strips power from those around him who are capable of bringing change....Positive Change to our football.

Anyone wh questions him, he in an almost Bush (US Prez) like manner calls them unpatriotic, against sport and PNM!

The man's ego is ample, his haughtiness and rancor huge. 

I have often wondered, if as a child, Jack was taunted becasue of his stammering and stuttering speech.  I have often pondered if that were the case then he may be hell bent on making those f**kers who torrr...torrrrrmmmmmented meeee  pa...pa..pay!

I know that there are those here who love Jack and think of him as some sort of saviour.  These peeps feel he is a good man, a great man, a man deserving of the Trinity Cross.  I am at times conflicted about Jack, to be blatantly honest.

At times he is ah real enigma.  He will ride een and save a player from jail.  He will pay for the hospital care of an injured player.  At times he is a lesson in contradiciton.   He exudes class, then he is as baseless and class less as anyone can be.  He has done much for CONCACAF and the region, but was this done to make sure there was ample picking for him and his pack of wolves?

Our players are once again about to don the National Colours and face foes on the footballing battle field.  They may not be the best we ever produced, they may be less technically gifted than some of our opponents, but that did not prevent us from putting up fierce resistance when we faced Sweden! 

Our players are who they are, and what we have available, the best that are willing to put it out on the battlefield...90 minutes of Red, Black and White!
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on February 02, 2008, 01:11:15 PM
Nice footage.....wait nah!, so who ah seeing in da TTFF meeting dread ? (2nd video wit' Jackula)......


1.  Scampinho celebrates reappointment as Pressident of TTFF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjjRmwUr2dU&feature=related   :applause: :applause:

2.  Jackula at the TTFF AGM meeting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTrSyLWXMYA   :notworthy:
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on February 07, 2008, 11:51:22 AM
Absoule garbage!!!!

Fellas I held my tongue when we tied a bunch of Salsa dancers but to loose (yes I consider yesterday a lost) to a bunch of Thierry Henry wanabes?

To me this is the lowest point T&T football has reached since we bowed out of World Cup qualifying in 2001. From what I have been reading there seems to be no positives to come from yesterday.

Add to the news that Jamaica played exceptionally well yesterday versus a team that we have never beaten makes me wonder if South Africa is a pipe dream.





Why all the panic? Ok we had a bad game, it happens! When one considers the turmoil the TTFF (Jack) has put the squad through, we really should not be surprised. From all accounts the team did not do well against Puerto Rico & now Guad. However, both games gives the NEW staff the opportunity to evaluate players in competitive games.
If we were to take our minds back, we would see that the National team struggled with inconsistency in
the earlies under Bertil. With the introduction of Beenie, Yorke, Latas, Birc. etc the squad stabilized.
Respect the past, but don't live in it. A new squad must be built & that takes patience and time.


No offense but I keep asking this simple question: Why are we always at this point? Why do we always have to go through this rebuilding process?
We always like to find excuses for poor performances. If this was any other country where sport is important there would be a angry mob outside the stadium.

One  answer to that question: THE SPECIAL ADVISER

And in light of exerything that went on since WC 2006, u cud honestly say u expected a good performance? Welcome to reality
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on March 02, 2008, 07:55:48 PM
bump
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: Trini _2026 on March 02, 2008, 08:14:15 PM
To tackle warner and camps yuh need to to break warners  block of votes in concacaf. starting with the cfu
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: truetrini on March 03, 2008, 12:43:00 AM
To tackle warner and camps yuh need to to break warners  block of votes in concacaf. starting with the cfu

you used to kiss warner's ass, what made yuh change yuh mind?

answer me triniman..answer me.
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on May 20, 2008, 04:15:29 PM
Sincere congratulatios to the Warriors and their legal team. You've proven that principle triumphs over presumed institutional power advantage no matter how corrupted and untouchable their perception . When this campaign was started to make Jackulito show some fairness and retract his ugly actions, there was plenty loud steuppsin' and sometimes all kinda intellectualizing about how daiz a waste ah time etc. This landmark ruling in the arbitration matter really makes once intimidated victims more confident now that yuh eh bong to take exploitation from nobody just because of four-curry favors.  ::)

With coolheaded people like Shaka on board and other slick strategists doing dey ting with good legal support and of course will power, anybody who is breaking the law to keep you dong, can be overcome. Salute to FPATT and all those others who played a supportive role in their own small way. When de de crunchy peanut butter hit de fan, it eh have no frien' in dis ting dread so as was mentioned before, watch and see nuff man geh lick up as the frustration mounts. Rodent.. Yuh see he? He go be first to be "taken out". Scamps going nex'. Like any football team yuh mus' have a scapegoat when yuh ge relegated. The repercussions of this are humongous. Humongous. Iz really time to reflect.

I strongly recommend that Scampinho, Rodent and Jackula spend a few more hours each night trying to imagine how to try covering up alll the dirty money trails that will now be opened like Watergate. Iz too much damage control fuh dem, especially the weaker ones like Scampinho and it can only lead to a sense of paranoia as yuh spenin' all day lookin' over yuh back and waitin' to see who go doublecross whom to save dey own backside.  A mighty fall is coming. All those who want to keep on holding on to the radioactive coat-tails of Jackulito..... , go ahead at your own risk. And don't let the deafening silence by some be a spoke in de wheel either. People are noticing more than yuh think  ;)

One thing must be said. Big up to Tallman, Flex and palos and such moderators fuh lettin' diverse views survive and thrive on the message board. Respec' due. Serious ting.

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Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: WestCoast on May 20, 2008, 04:20:21 PM
Is like Chemotherapy for dis Malignancy eh Dreamer
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on May 20, 2008, 04:24:39 PM
Is like Chemotherapy for dis Malignancy eh Dreamer

Potent.. wit' plenty collateral damage so stay clear and always wash yuh hands ...... :beermug:
Title: Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy
Post by: dreamer on June 15, 2008, 07:29:44 PM
Even with these events at de Marvin Lee Stadium, (T&T 1, Bermuda 2) with the blaklisted players in de stands literallyabout to cry, it will still take a while for us to mature and understand how erosive tuh yuh wellbeing a malignant cancer is.

Radical surgery is needed now. Now! Now!! Now!!!
Cut and doh stop doc till healthy flesh is seen.
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