Those rankings should not be taken at face value in my opinion, England beat the U.S. just the other in the U.S. and England was much the better team.These rankings don't go by who beat who.I can't explain the criteria can someone?may be Observer.
PANAMA 83 ---------> whatch out TT
Not meaning to take anything away from the US or Mexico for that matter, but if they were in Eurpoe, they wouldn't be 5 & 6. If they played the likes of Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Czech Rep, Portugal etc, on a regular basis, instead of T&T, Costa Rica and Jamaica, their position would be vastly different.
England beat the US without their first-string team.
Not meaning to take anything away from the US or Mexico for that matter, but if they were in Eurpoe, they wouldn't be 5 & 6. If they played the likes of Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Czech Rep, Portugal etc, on a regular basis, instead of T&T, Costa Rica and Jamaica, their position would be vastly different.
England beat the US without their first-string team.
It says a lot that the US and Mexico have ah bunch ah tiny countries (and Canada who barely recoginze the sport)Â and does hold they own against European Competition when they meet them.
They would probably be ranked higher if they got that constant tough competition because lets face it...they does take things serious and hate losing. The better competition they play against consistently I could definitely see them being even better than they already are.
They play against countries that playin the game decades now professionally and just start the MLS and look how they advancing.
Give Jack he Jacket. We could learn a lot from them.
Saying all that we could still pull off ah upset.
I don't know if anyone have an explanation for this,i notice there are no African teams mentioned on that list ,are those countries that bad?
If we beat the USA in AUg we will more than leap up the chart.
If we beat the USA in AUg we will more than leap up the chart.
Don't you mean WHEN....?? ;D ;D
Allyuh men really have such a low opinion of the US still? I hate the States...iI dislike losing to Jamaica plenty but I have real animosity against the US team ...but I recognise that they are a BIG side now. Doh get tie up with the US. France, Italy and them have pedigree and history but they drawing with small sides and playin boring ta-ta football for over a year now, while Spain and Portugal look pretty and only win against small sides but cah beat the big guns. The states is definitely in their class, consistently since the last World Cup. Allyh forget the States beat Germany 3-0 within the past 5 years. How many sides in the world could say they do that in their history?
TOUCHES, thanks for the explanation, sorry for my mistakes!
And by the way, I've already posted in other countries message boards.
fifa rankings is a load of rubbish.
usa and mexico in de top 10? mexico is 5 but france is 6? usa is 7 but spain is 8? italy and germany not in de top 10?
iran is 18 but ireland is 21?
pure and utter dotishness.
Men real testy these days ....... :rotfl: :beermug:yeah dred....man forget to eat he crix and cheese and drink he Milo to start de morning
de only thing i doh agree with is how us could b ranked higher than germany england italy.it doh make sense.us do not belong in the top 12.i mean united states
I have a lot of faith in what the rankings represent but I a lill suprised we didnt go up more than 3 places.
We beat the then number 5 team, also won away from home, I guess Panama 76 rating didnt mean as much.
I thought we woulda at least break in the top 50.
Also, jamaica got hammered by a australia team ranked 50 something, yet they moved up one and australia fell 4 places.
Interesting.
What was our highest ever ranking? 28 in late 2000 and early 2001?
Dem rankings always suspect to me. There's gotta be a better formula that FIFA could employ.
We haven't done anything YET to deserve a higher ranking......stress on the word YET.......
That is a subjective statement kicker. In my opinion we do deserve to be ahead of a few of the countries in de top 50. Me eh calling no names because ah not in de mood to start nuttin with ah certain fellow islander. ;D
Ah vibezing it up!
Dem rakings is pure ta-ta hole!
Australia just demolished Jamaica 5=0 and the scoreline could have been worse!
But Jamaica ranked higher dan Australia....
hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha!
In my opinion we deserve to be at least at #39 so that certain cousins up north are forced to face who is boss round these parts but we've got something much more important to deal with right now which is to put two good beatings a certain Asian team and let them Bah and Rain tears for so after our games on 12th & 16th Nov. ;)
T&T and Soca Warriors we love you!
Dem rakings is pure ta-ta hole!
Australia just demolished Jamaica 5=0 and the scoreline could have been worse!
But Jamaica ranked higher dan Australia....
hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha!
So Trinidad beats Mexico, ranked 5. Does that mean Trinidad should be ranked 4? Or Jamaica ties Brazil, does it mean that Brazil and Jamaica are joint #1? The rankings are not based on one match, nor is it based on 3 matches for that matter. Its an index of games played over a particular period of time. If Trinidad beats Brazil in a friendly game tomorrow, Trinidad doesnt automatically jump to #1 in the world and Brazil to 100.
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Oct-2005,00.html
Check it out. Bahrain
Ah wonder if Jack fix this too ? :rotfl: :devil: :beermug: :rotfl: :devil: :beermug: :rotfl: :devil: :beermug:
Do friendlies count towards the ranking?
We should and would at least move above Bahrain the standings.We're ALREADY above Bahrain in the standings.
We should and would at least move above Bahrain the standings.we were already ahead of them b4 de game.bahrain56 tnt 53
we r above bahrain in the standings. they 55th nd us 53rd
Actually we're 53, Australia 54, and Bahrain 55. We might actually drop in the standings because Australia beat Uruguay, who're ranked 17th, yesterday.
we should be in the top 32
how de hell jamaica still rankin better than we when australia now light them up >:(
we should be in the top 32
how de hell jamaica still rankin better than we when australia now light them up >:(
what makes us deserving of a top 32 placing?
Curious....I know we in de WC and is 32 teams but dat eh de logic behind de rankings...so????
we should be in the top 32
how de hell jamaica still rankin better than we when australia now light them up >:(
what makes us deserving of a top 32 placing?
Curious....I know we in de WC and is 32 teams but dat eh de logic behind de rankings...so????
congrats on de promotion... :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
trutrini i jusst joking bredda ;D
yuh rell lighting man up lately boy
by de way i finally made E-5 ;D
we should be in the top 32Ja ranking wouldn't necessarily fall if they lose to a team like Aus. If they geh light up by a team like St. Vincent or Barbados then their ranking will certainly fall.
how de hell jamaica still rankin better than we when australia now light them up >:(
we should be in the top 32
how de hell jamaica still rankin better than we when australia now light them up >:(
we should be in the top 32
how de hell jamaica still rankin better than we when australia now light them up >:(
Key for Trinidad to move into the top 32 before now and the finals, is to play and beat teams ranked above them, at least 3 times. That will guarantee T&T making up on the 31 points gap that currently exists between them and Jamaica.
Key for Trinidad to move into the top 32 before now and the finals, is to play and beat teams ranked above them, at least 3 times. That will guarantee T&T making up on the 31 points gap that currently exists between them and Jamaica.
Wow, didnt know Ja was ranked 22 in the world. ;D
Key for Trinidad to move into the top 32 before now and the finals, is to play and beat teams ranked above them, at least 3 times. That will guarantee T&T making up on the 31 points gap that currently exists between them and Jamaica.
Wow, didnt know Ja was ranked 22 in the world. ;D
That is JA maths.
All working must be shown in GREEN ink.
Key for Trinidad to move into the top 32 before now and the finals, is to play and beat teams ranked above them, at least 3 times. That will guarantee T&T making up on the 31 points gap that currently exists between them and Jamaica.
Wow, didnt know Ja was ranked 22 in the world. ;D
That is JA maths.
All working must be shown in GREEN ink.
It's actually 30 points. Ja has 626, TT has 596.
:rotfl:
Key for Trinidad to move into the top 32 before now and the finals, is to play and beat teams ranked above them, at least 3 times. That will guarantee T&T making up on the 31 points gap that currently exists between them and Jamaica.
Wow, didnt know Ja was ranked 22 in the world. ;D
:rotfl:
That is JA maths.
All working must be shown in GREEN ink.
I just can't wait
12.09.05/mas-pst/ Schedule-2006_WR-WWR.doc
FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking Schedule 2006
Final version
Published: Monthly on Wednesdays
Deadline: Thursday prior to the release date
Month Release Date Deadline Interval (weeks)
(December Mon 19 Dec 2005)
January 18 Jan 12 Jan 4
February1 15 Feb 09 Feb 4
March° 15 Mar 09 Mar 4
April 19 Apr 13 Apr 5
May° 17 May 11 May 4
June2 NO RANKING NO RANKING NO RANKING
July 12 Jul FWC Final 8
August 16 Aug 10 Aug 5
September° 13 Sep 07 Sep 4
October 18 Oct 12 Oct 5
November 22 Nov 16 Nov 5
December 3° 20 Dec 14 Dec 4
1 Following CAN 2006 (ending 10 Feb)
2 No publication due to FIFA World Cup Germany™ (9 June – 9 July)
Wonder where Trinidad is going to be placed
 Yes we were ranked 29th or 24th in the world if I remember correctly! Who knows for sure can enlighten me but I know it was somewhere around there.
We were ranked #29 after we did not qualify for WC 1990.
 Yes we were ranked 29th or 24th in the world if I remember correctly! Who knows for sure can enlighten me but I know it was somewhere around there.
We were ranked #29 after we did not qualify for WC 1990. I don't think we would move that much since we drew at home and had a slim 1-0 victory from a lower ranking team. we would be in the the mid 40's maybe.
The FIFA rankings are a pile of @$$ and have little bearing on the relative strength of national teams especially among the top 25%.
i'll make some bold predictions knowing that i risk a lot... I don't see us gaining more than 25 points... I think between 10 and 20 is a safe estimate.
We aren't going to overtake : ghana (beat saudi (a)) , ivory coast (win romania (n), draw italy (n)), belgium (draw lithuania(a)), bulgaria (draw malta (a) win georga (h), win mexico (n), slovakia (draw russia (h)loss spain (a), draw spain (h), finland (lose cze (h) draw estonia (h)), serbie (win bosnia (h) win china (a), loss south korea (a)
We are going to overtake : zimbabwe (no activity), togo (loss iran(a), paraguay(n)), south africa (loss to senegal (h)) isreal (beat faroes (h))
i don't know about: jamaica (no activity), honduras (no activity) both 30 points ahead of us and i think that would be hoping for too much...but you never know with the point swing
Well this was sure fun....please don't hit me tomorrow  ;D
it always feel better when a #51 ranked team beats a top 20 team!! ENT???amen to dat brotha :beermug:
are u serioussssssssssssssss? yea fifa rankings is complete shit
dat rankin completely suprised me!!!! but eh, T&T going in as de underdogs, and will upset some teams in WC.
Morvantman congrats sweetheart....althought ah doh know what E5 mean, it sounds/look like something to be proud of and
I'm guessing it is a promotion. :-*
Ppl we have moved from number 53 to 2 spot up at number 51 now. Slow and steady we shall rise.
dat rankin completely suprised me!!!! but eh, T&T going in as de underdogs, and will upset some teams in WC.
1. I know the ranking procedure.
2. I don't post to please you.
1. I know the ranking procedure.
2. I don't post to please you.
3. I Don't F***ING care
1. I know the ranking procedure.
2. I don't post to please you.
remember de fifa rankings are heavily funded by US investors, so de US will b up dey, but dey dont deserve dat ranking, dey cant even beat croatia or italy, far less sweden
remember de fifa rankings are heavily funded by US investors, so de US will b up dey, but dey dont deserve dat ranking, dey cant even beat croatia or italy, far less sweden
remember de fifa rankings are heavily funded by US investors, so de US will b up dey, but dey dont deserve dat ranking, dey cant even beat croatia or italy, far less sweden
They there because they winning. What craziness yuh talking Triniinfinite ??? Steups.
We playin Paraguay...you playin Paranoid
U.S. is No. 7 in FIFA rankingsFIFA ranking eat cock ..FIFA ranking is for wishers!!!!!! But memba wey war sey..U.S.A shocking de whole flicking world!!!!!!!! dem beating from a flicking side !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Associated Press
Posted: 1 hour ago  Â
ZURICH, Switzerland (AP) - The U.S. national soccer team advanced one place to No. 7 Wednesday in FIFA's rankings for January.
FIFA WORLD RANKING
Top 20 January 2006Â
Rank Country Points +/-Â
1 Brazil 839 -1Â
2 Czech Rep. 796 -Â
3 Netherlands 790 -1Â
4 Argentina 772 -Â
5 France 768 -Â
5 Spain 768 -Â
7 Mexico 767 -1Â
7Â USAÂ 767Â -
9 England 757 -Â
10 Portugal 753 -1Â
11 Turkey 748 -Â
12 Italy 741 -Â
13 Denmark 733 -Â
14 Sweden 731 -1Â
15 Japan 714 -1Â
16 Greece 708 -Â
17 Germany 707 -1Â
18 Uruguay 705 -1Â
19 Iran 703 -Â
20 Croatia 701 -Â
Ranking criteriaÂ
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Brazil maintained the top spot it has held since July 2002, a month after it won its record fifth World Cup. The next three teams also were unchanged - Czech Republic, Netherlands and Argentina. France shared fifth with Spain.
Mexico, which was tied for fifth last month, dropped into a tie for seventh with the U.S. England remained ninth, ahead of Portugal.
The next 10 places were almost the same: Turkey was No. 11, followed by Italy, Denmark, Sweden, Japan, Greece, Germany, Uruguay, Iran and Croatia. Only Germany changed places, dropping to 17th from a tie for 16th.
Among teams in the top 20, only Turkey, Denmark, European champion Greece and Uruguay failed to qualify for the 32-nation World Cup, which begins in June 9 in Germany.
(Trinidad still at 50)
Keep allyuh bias in check..the US is a decent team who by the way we haven't beaten in a long time.
Keep allyuh bias in check..the US is a decent team who by the way we haven't beaten in a long time.
Americans does take rankings and stats too serious. That is why they never play the tournaments they get invited too. How come they didn't beat Scotland last year? I think hands down that Trinidad could beat USA. I would never say that bout most European teams. I just waiting to see them get a good washing this WC.Didnt we collect 5 from scotland..yet still we talking bout we go beat England..and one a dem saying bout how cum U.S.A rank higher than England..and we aint beat U.S.A in donkey years!!!!!!!!!! Did yu see de U.S.A Scotland game?? Trus mi Dem thief a 3rd string U.S.A team.. USA beating from a side cum this wrl cup Trus mi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is it going to take for de US to prove they deserve a top 10 ranking? Beat Brazil? Done. Give a good WC performance? Done. Win de WC? Well that is not so easy to do... but we working on it. ;)
beat brazil in ur dreams my friend, u must b hallucinating on dat us propaganda shit dey feeding u, u prob couldnt even tell me where brazil is
beat brazil in ur dreams my friend, u must b hallucinating on dat us propaganda shit dey feeding u, u prob couldnt even tell me where brazil isWhat is it going to take for de US to prove they deserve a top 10 ranking? Beat Brazil? Done. Give a good WC performance? Done. Win de WC? Well that is not so easy to do... but we working on it. ;)
MEP though worry wid dem fellas..dem fools a cum to this board and write wey dem wish..dem doh deal wid reality..we aint beat U.S.A in about a century and dem bawling bout U.S.A is a shitty team.. USA beating everyboy from a side listne to what am seying people..!!!!!!!!! ..and check mi to all who dislike de country get tuh bumboclaut out.. USA beating from a side cum this wrl cup!!!!!!!!!!!bias my foot. name one star on that shyt team. allyuh never beat nobody with that shyt squad to be ranked 7QuoteAllyuh? I is ah born and bred trini padnah...I jes keepin it real....the same criteria that is used to rank us is also used to rank the USA...the USA performs credibly in international competitions....I for one would always say TnT has better individual players but as a team the USA is better.........You don't need to have stars on your team to be a good team....look at Real Madrid all dem stars and they aren't the best team in the world.......don't let your dislike for the country cloud your opinionQuote
eh moe mep wuhever yuh name is, usa HAVE NO RIGHT TO B IN DE TOP 20.FURTHER MORE TOP 10.ANYWAY ALL WILL BE CLARIFIED BY THIS COMIN SUMMER.bias my foot. name one star on that shyt team. allyuh never beat nobody with that shyt squad to be ranked 7QuoteAllyuh? I is ah born and bred trini padnah...I jes keepin it real....the same criteria that is used to rank us is also used to rank the USA...the USA performs credibly in international competitions....I for one would always say TnT has better individual players but as a team the USA is better.........You don't need to have stars on your team to be a good team....look at Real Madrid all dem stars and they aren't the best team in the world.......don't let your dislike for the country cloud your opinionQuote
TrinInfinite, go back and read Filho's post. You just showed how ignorant you are. And to think I am the one (American) who knows nothing about soccer. You must have been asleep since 98... but I'm dreaming? I guess you'll tell me I'm dreaming when I tell you we've also beaten Germany.
Anyway, for the record, I hope T&T does well in Germany and Big Up Concacaf. So as we continue to spank that ass (T&T) is more respect we'll get for it.Quote
eh green beret haul yuh yankee ass. usa is shit and dont deserve to be 7th
TrinInfinite, go back and read Filho's post. You just showed how ignorant you are. And to think I am the one (American) who knows nothing about soccer. You must have been asleep since 98... but I'm dreaming? I guess you'll tell me I'm dreaming when I tell you we've also beaten Germany.
Anyway, for the record, I hope T&T does well in Germany and Big Up Concacaf. So as we continue to spank that ass (T&T) is more respect we'll get for it.Quote
eh green beret haul yuh yankee ass. usa is shit and dont deserve to be 7th
And you, DOTISH, as you Trinis say, "haul yuh stinkin pokey-hole." You could call us a shit side all you want, but Trini Hasn't beaten us in recent history. In fact, when was the last time? Probably not since we spanked that ass in 89 and went to Italy in YOUR place. Remember that????
But again, I reiterate that I hope you guys do good so that we could get some decent competition within CONCACAF, besides Mex and CR.
TrinInfinite, go back and read Filho's post. You just showed how ignorant you are. And to think I am the one (American) who knows nothing about soccer. You must have been asleep since 98... but I'm dreaming? I guess you'll tell me I'm dreaming when I tell you we've also beaten Germany.
Anyway, for the record, I hope T&T does well in Germany and Big Up Concacaf. So as we continue to spank that ass (T&T) is more respect we'll get for it.Quote
eh green beret haul yuh yankee ass. usa is shit and dont deserve to be 7th
And you, DOTISH, as you Trinis say, "haul yuh stinkin pokey-hole." You could call us a shit side all you want, but Trini Hasn't beaten us in recent history. In fact, when was the last time? Probably not since we spanked that ass in 89 and went to Italy in YOUR place. Remember that????
But again, I reiterate that I hope you guys do good so that we could get some decent competition within CONCACAF, besides Mex and CR.
Excuse me, can you stop saying "Spank that ass," because you're sounding like a macomere man. Since you're so hip on the Trini lingo you should know what that means.
P.S. It's F-O-O-T-B-A-L-L not Soccer. ::)
Real ignorance goin on here. How de ass we could call the US a shit side and big up mexico all the damn time? US giving them good licks regular since the US beat mexico in the world cup. It have no damn reason mexico could be in the top 10 and not the US. allyuh only talking who is the star and who is the star when we ent realize they still beating good sides and only losing slimly to big sides. As for we beating the US, i want it to happen bad and it could. But we ent beat them years now..last time was in a fete match to commemorate 1989. When we start beating them then we could talk. For now fellas, talk allyuh crap...the US is still a big side in world football right now and yeah they have a damn hard group in germany but no doubt they is a big side. and by big side i mean they could run with the traditional big boys--and in the case of mexico cut dey arse
Sorry to offend you SMALLY.
And yeah, I know wha dat mean. Learn to spell it right nah?
And since you don't have anything factual or of substance to dispute my team's status, you come at me with some weak rhetorical crap about "football not soccer"? Very weak. Very weak. You know, some years ago, the English Premier league used to be televised as, "Star Soccer"? So there you go. In this country, it is convenient to say SOCCER so as not to confuse with the other game. Seen?
But I sure yuh done know dat.Â
Sorry to offend you SMALLY.
And yeah, I know wha dat mean. Learn to spell it right nah?
And since you don't have anything factual or of substance to dispute my team's status, you come at me with some weak rhetorical crap about "football not soccer"? Very weak. Very weak. You know, some years ago, the English Premier league used to be televised as, "Star Soccer"? So there you go. In this country, it is convenient to say SOCCER so as not to confuse with the other game. Seen?
But I sure yuh done know dat.Â
Wait...who you calling Smallie? LOL N spell it right nah! N dat is de way macomere man is spelt so ketch yuhself. Buh the "Football" correction was actually in relation to your previous post. Ah just doh like to see people call it "Soccer". And I was never trying to dispute anything you said. If I were, I would have done just that.
LOL - I am calling YOU Smally, with your little cute self. Yeah, I saw your picture a while back in another post. LOL
Anyway, dat is not how I see dat word spelled in ah Punch my bredren show me.
Ketch myself why? Am I falling?
LOL - I am calling YOU Smally, with your little cute self. Yeah, I saw your picture a while back in another post. LOL
Anyway, dat is not how I see dat word spelled in ah Punch my bredren show me.
Ketch myself why? Am I falling?
Well yuh should learn not to put too much stock in what the "Punch" has to say. So wham, yuh have Trini roots or yuh does just lime with plenty Trinis?
LOL - I am calling YOU Smally, with your little cute self. Yeah, I saw your picture a while back in another post. LOL
Anyway, dat is not how I see dat word spelled in ah Punch my bredren show me.
Ketch myself why? Am I falling?
Well yuh should learn not to put too much stock in what the "Punch" has to say. So wham, yuh have Trini roots or yuh does just lime with plenty Trinis?
If Birchall is Trini (and thank God he is), then I am more Trini than he. He only have 1 Trini parent. LOL
But I know nuff Trinis too. Actually, I spent a year there during my teens. I did a semester at St. Mary's.
LOL - I am calling YOU Smally, with your little cute self. Yeah, I saw your picture a while back in another post. LOL
Anyway, dat is not how I see dat word spelled in ah Punch my bredren show me.
Ketch myself why? Am I falling?
Well yuh should learn not to put too much stock in what the "Punch" has to say. So wham, yuh have Trini roots or yuh does just lime with plenty Trinis?
If Birchall is Trini (and thank God he is), then I am more Trini than he. He only have 1 Trini parent. LOL
But I know nuff Trinis too. Actually, I spent a year there during my teens. I did a semester at St. Mary's.
Orrrr so you gorn against! Yuh shoulda never leh dah info slip horse, cos dey'll crucify yuh on this site.
T, how I gone against?
I wouldn't sit by and here nobody bad talk De Soca Warriors. I support de warriors too.
But men on here talking bad about de US. I am US too, so I juss saying, beat de US, then talk bad. I go to all T&T vs USA games here, and I lime in de middle of de drums and iron. In August, I wore my Finta to de game in CT. So I represent.
You doh have de dilema dat I have. I have to split my alegiance.
But I was only trying to wild some men. Dat is all, and I will continue to do so as long as they continue to diss my squad. Seen?
No disrespect.
I used to want Ato to buss up Mo Green.
Oh, I forgot, I bleed red, white and blue-black. LOL
T, how I gone against?
I wouldn't sit by and here nobody bad talk De Soca Warriors. I support de warriors too.
But men on here talking bad about de US. I am US too, so I juss saying, beat de US, then talk bad. I go to all T&T vs USA games here, and I lime in de middle of de drums and iron. In August, I wore my Finta to de game in CT. So I represent.
You doh have de dilema dat I have. I have to split my alegiance.
But I was only trying to wild some men. Dat is all, and I will continue to do so as long as they continue to diss my squad. Seen?
No disrespect.
I used to want Ato to buss up Mo Green.
Oh, I forgot, I bleed red, white and blue-black. LOL
Yeah okay, I can respect where you're coming from. We cool as long as yuh stop saying "Soccer."Â :devil:
T, how I gone against?
I wouldn't sit by and here nobody bad talk De Soca Warriors. I support de warriors too.
But men on here talking bad about de US. I am US too, so I juss saying, beat de US, then talk bad. I go to all T&T vs USA games here, and I lime in de middle of de drums and iron. In August, I wore my Finta to de game in CT. So I represent.
You doh have de dilema dat I have. I have to split my alegiance.
But I was only trying to wild some men. Dat is all, and I will continue to do so as long as they continue to diss my squad. Seen?
No disrespect.
I used to want Ato to buss up Mo Green.
Oh, I forgot, I bleed red, white and blue-black. LOL
Yeah okay, I can respect where you're coming from. We cool as long as yuh stop saying "Soccer."Â :devil:
Ah-ight T, well we straight.
I waitin for a Trini friend to bring me ah Rotee. (aaaahhhhh, I juss wilding yuh. I know is ROTI).
Den I bout to hit this B/D party.
Nice chatting with ya. Nuff Luv and big-up de Warriors.
june 11 2000 usa 3 - mexico 0
oct 25 2000 usa 2 - mexico 0
feb 28 2001usa 2 - mexico 0
july 1 2001 usa 0- mexico 1
april 3 2002 usa 1- mexico 0
june 17 2002 usa 2- mexico 0 *in world cup knockout stages
may 8 2003 usa 0- mexico 0
april 28 2003 usa 1- mexico 0
may 27 2005 usa 1- mexico 2
sept 3 2005 usa 2- mexico 0
In summary, from 2000 to present, the us record vs mexico reads as 7 wins-1draw-2 losses
pretty good licks if u ask me
toppa yuh eh see de man is ah flikkin buller.instead ah watchin gyul skin dey puss on de beach.he focusin on vocabulary.
LOL - I am calling YOU Smally, with your little cute self. Yeah, I saw your picture a while back in another post. LOL
Anyway, dat is not how I see dat word spelled in ah Punch my bredren show me.
Ketch myself why? Am I falling?
Well yuh should learn not to put too much stock in what the "Punch" has to say. So wham, yuh have Trini roots or yuh does just lime with plenty Trinis?
10 games is not really that short term and that's over 5 years..obviously the US is now getting better..they not a traditonal powerhouse..did i say that??? and read my post before and u will see i said recently..5 years is a damn long time for football rankings..those have to factor heavily in the rankings..if u wanna make a ranking system that factors in more than 5 years go ahead breds 8)
toppa yuh eh see de man is ah flikkin buller.instead ah watchin gyul skin dey puss on de beach.he focusin on vocabulary.
LOL - I am calling YOU Smally, with your little cute self. Yeah, I saw your picture a while back in another post. LOL
Anyway, dat is not how I see dat word spelled in ah Punch my bredren show me.
Ketch myself why? Am I falling?
Well yuh should learn not to put too much stock in what the "Punch" has to say. So wham, yuh have Trini roots or yuh does just lime with plenty Trinis?
ALyuh gettin tie up bad bad.Touches dat is a true football fan talking..not sum of de fellas who does cum and type wey dem wish and do not deal wid facts!!!!!!!!
The US is a big side!
They may play boring unattractive robot football, but they are never embarrassed, they hold their own against any other big team in the world and they are very disciplined, fit and technically skilled in the free kick and corner department.
If they manage to come out their group in the WC they could damn well make a semi-finals.
With their so called lesser skilled players they does manners us like little children.
Shithound Jeff Agoos and Lalas had Yorke in he Manchester United Prime in they back pocket, he couldnt make a note.
Doe diss the USA........dislike them yes, but respect them as a footballing nation.
They Better than TT in every dept.......take orf alyuh emotional patriotic googles.
USA is a team and they have never looked back since 89.
Their 7th place ranking is deserved and they will not get more than 2 goals from any other team in the top 20
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
cant wait until the world cup.
These rankngs are real entertainment. USA just moving on up like the Jeffersons.
you mean beating FIU and the Honduran club was not good enough to move up? damn!
the matches we played in the US don't qualify as fifa matches
:mackdaddy:you mean beating FIU and the Honduran club was not good enough to move up? damn!
you mean beating FIU and the Honduran club was not good enough to move up? damn!
you mean beating FIU and the Honduran club was not good enough to move up? damn!
we should go back up after we put 5 on iceland.
Head to head..how does Mexico stack up to USA?
you mean beating FIU and the Honduran club was not good enough to move up? damn!
Look yuh have point man laughing at yuh
the matches we played in the US don't qualify as fifa matchesbredda de man on kix
:mackdaddy:you mean beating FIU and the Honduran club was not good enough to move up? damn!
if we drop den jamaica mus be drop 2??
you mean beating FIU and the Honduran club was not good enough to move up? damn!
Yeah man, the team looked great and it's great for the team's confidence... Â
Then I read subsequent reports like this one Trinidad coach says his team will spring surprises in Germany http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2006/3/2/sports/13542588&sec=sports , I just hope we not getting ahead of ourselves because the bottom line is we played a sh!t team. Â I juss hoping we take the rest of our preparations very seriously and not get swell headed from dat victory as great as it was...
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Feb-2006,00.html
Just something to keep in mind. The team looked great but let's remember we played a very weak team. I say much more preparation is needed, and am looking forward to the warmups against the better teams. It seems the media took that 2-0 defeat and ran with it, people saying is 2nd rong for TnT and all kindah ting, I say mash yuh brakes....
Iceland also won one game against Malta and lost eight in Euro qualifiers http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/zone/standings.html?zone=eur ....
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Feb-2006,00.html
Just something to keep in mind. The team looked great but let's remember we played a very weak team. I say much more preparation is needed, and am looking forward to the warmups against the better teams. It seems the media took that 2-0 defeat and ran with it, people saying is 2nd rong for TnT and all kindah ting, I say mash yuh brakes....
Iceland also won one game against Malta and lost eight in Euro qualifiers http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/zone/standings.html?zone=eur ....
I understand what you are saying but this is my input. Iceland was in the same group with sweden during the World Cup qualifies. I think they finished 2nd-to-last in there group and they had lost 3-1 and 4-1 to Sweden respectively. I think beenie man wanted to test us with a team that played sweden to see where we were at. Did you know that Iceland trashed South Africa 4-1? and South Africa ranks 50th according to fifa. All and all, I THINK the fifa ranking is flawed. But i understand your point and concern. We still do not need to take the win to head. It was good for confidence though and analysis.
Kingman
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Feb-2006,00.html
Just something to keep in mind. The team looked great but let's remember we played a very weak team. I say much more preparation is needed, and am looking forward to the warmups against the better teams. It seems the media took that 2-0 defeat and ran with it, people saying is 2nd rong for TnT and all kindah ting, I say mash yuh brakes....
Iceland also won one game against Malta and lost eight in Euro qualifiers http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/zone/standings.html?zone=eur ....
I understand what you are saying but this is my input. Iceland was in the same group with sweden during the World Cup qualifies. I think they finished 2nd-to-last in there group and they had lost 3-1 and 4-1 to Sweden respectively. I think beenie man wanted to test us with a team that played sweden to see where we were at. Did you know that Iceland trashed South Africa 4-1? and South Africa ranks 50th according to fifa. All and all, I THINK the fifa ranking is flawed. But i understand your point and concern. We still do not need to take the win to head. It was good for confidence though and analysis.
Kingman
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Feb-2006,00.html
Just something to keep in mind. The team looked great but let's remember we played a very weak team. I say much more preparation is needed, and am looking forward to the warmups against the better teams. It seems the media took that 2-0 defeat and ran with it, people saying is 2nd rong for TnT and all kindah ting, I say mash yuh brakes....
Iceland also won one game against Malta and lost eight in Euro qualifiers http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/zone/standings.html?zone=eur ....
I understand what you are saying but this is my input. Iceland was in the same group with sweden during the World Cup qualifies. I think they finished 2nd-to-last in there group and they had lost 3-1 and 4-1 to Sweden respectively. I think beenie man wanted to test us with a team that played sweden to see where we were at. Did you know that Iceland trashed South Africa 4-1? and South Africa ranks 50th according to fifa. All and all, I THINK the fifa ranking is flawed. But i understand your point and concern. We still do not need to take the win to head. It was good for confidence though and analysis.
Kingman
In the past 3 years, Iceland have also beaten Italy and drawn with Germany, Italy and Mexico. They also have more Premiership players than we do.
So by your indications T&T should come last in the world cup because if we go by FIFA ranking we are the lowest and weakest.... ranked 51...
FIFA ranking dont mean much.... according to Doc- doh trouble your heart, its 11v11 on game day... we almost didn't beat St Vincent and them is 100 and something...
England is number 9..
woohoo ::)
Is the US #1 yet? ;D
well i could happen sooner than you think I believeneva,neva ,neva.
wuh was de reason fifa would not let us in de wc.de haiti ting?look back in 1973 I say FIFA would NEVER let TnT in de World Cup, and where are we going to be in 2006.......You get my driftwell i could happen sooner than you think I believeneva,neva ,neva.
woohoo ::)
Is the US #1 yet? ;D
Niggah plz Us at number 1 if dat happen buy meh in de pitch lake....alive
woohoo ::)
Is the US #1 yet? ;D
Niggah plz Us at number 1 if dat happen buy meh in de pitch lake....alive
Forget about England for starts, how is the USA to get to no.1 without being able to beat teams like Brazil, Agentina, the Czech Republic & Holland even in friendlies?
The USA is only no.5 on paper I don't think they are better than England but then again I don't think England is better than us other than on paper! Â ;) Â 8)
oh yuh lucky jeffers
Shouldn't our entering in de world cup move us atleast tuh 32 .....???? ;D ;D :rotfl:
well i could happen sooner than you think I believe
woohoo ::)
Is the US #1 yet? ;D
Who you steupsing at likkle pickney eh ah slap yuh till yuh white yuh know....hahahahaha :rotfl:
Wait nah we ain't even get ah run against Ja before de world cup ah wonder y?
THAT IS THE MOST FLAWED SYSTEM IN THE HISTORY OF ANYSPORT.. Emagine the USA is # 5?
Sport Illsutrated said it that same thing some time back..
USA is playing a bunch of Mickey mouse teams.. I will love to see dem cum up against Brazil..France and England.. . The game against Germany will be a huge test But I gurantee dey winning dat game 2-1 .. also anyone in de ohio area ..I mekin a trip there (possibly) to see USA against. Venezuela..venezuela collecting at least 5 in dat game trus mi..I don't hate the USA as a nation but in sport I love to see economic superpowers fall. I don't know about allyuh but I watch football in the same way somebody watch fine art or listen to music. I like the game for its artisitic elements and its something I never see with the US. They play a kind of glorified smash and grab brand that I just can't identify with. I like to see them lose. The FIFA rankings quite clearly are flawed and one can read nothing into them. USA 5th in the World ? STEUPS. With the exception of Keller not one American player (Donovan and Beasely included) would be able to make the squad of any "real" top 5 team.
everyone know mi backing De U.S and TNT to win de world cup..Winning de wrl cup is a dream for war for TNT ..But I honestly think sey USA could win de world cup cum 2010 .. Memba war sey so..
Gwan USA show de haters we beating from a side cum 2006..
Warmonga...
allyuh haters go commit sucide when USA win de world cup, watch mi ..
TNT and USA all de way bredda..
the dutch dont have one foreigner in their team
zero
because they a not white does not mean that they are not dutch
check the history of our country,then you know
the only player that is a foreigner and want himself to play in our squad is Kalou,and he asked himself,but it is not allowed for the time being.
ok?
Fifa have we at 50... they always have we weh back there! Dont' worry we'll make people feel real sick in June. They have Mexico and the US in the top ten we'll fix that soon! :devil:You know, we were up to #27 in 2000 when we didn't make the world cup :rotfl:
They be treating we like bottom feeders! After we handle Iceland... trust me now teams are like"This lil Soca County is for real" We deserve more respect... but we'll receive it after the worldcup!Fifa have we at 50... they always have we weh back there! Dont' worry we'll make people feel real sick in June. They have Mexico and the US in the top ten we'll fix that soon! :devil:You know, we were up to #27 in 2000 when we didn't make the world cup :rotfl:
I'll make a bold prediction here and now. The USA will not make it to the quarter final. as a matter of fact I am not sure they will even get out their group, unless its the best 3rd place finish.
  I just glad that Jamaica keep dropping and we rising, I cannot wait for we to overtake yes overtake Jamaica. I support them because they represent Concacaf and the Caribbean but when it comes to between us in Concacaf fire fuh them. I went on their website the other day if you here them bussing up they mouth saying we are still the Number one team in the Caribbean ahead of Trinidad and Tobago, ok yes they win the Caribbean Cup is true but it real sound to me like we best team in Caribbean we ain't make it to World Cup but we still better than Trini. Soon they are right there they are 45th we are 49th just 13 points away and check this they going down even more because USA going to put some licks on them. We go still be rising because We beating Peru and we looking to clean up them other team and them so Boyaka, jamaica SHOT CALL.
Fifa have we at 50... they always have we weh back there! Dont' worry we'll make people feel real sick in June. They have Mexico and the US in the top ten we'll fix that soon! :devil:we at 49.
Think about this:
When it comes to playing international basketball...the US theoretically should be #1.....but they're NOT.....why....other teams in the world like Argentina and Serbia/Mont play a team sport...they don't have a major talent pool or extremely talented players, yet they win and they are World Champions....Reason they win is they play a team game....team strategy and play a lot of games together...
Now apply that to football....the US has used that in the reverse.....they do NOT have a lot of naturally skilled players but they have very good team strategy and play team ball...thats why they play a very structured game and favor them very highly in the WC...they will not win the cup but they will impress....
So before your respond to what I wrote try to think out your response a bit more objectively instead of vomitting emotions on the forum..
I'll make a bold prediction here and now. The USA will not make it to the quarter final. as a matter of fact I am not sure they will even get out their group, unless its the best 3rd place finish.
And I suppose if you're right, that will say what about the US?
Just a question, considering that France and Argentina didn't make it out of the 1st rounds last time.
Because sometimes, there is a tendency to look only at the score, or the final outcome, and disregard that those do not always tell the whole story.
I'm saying this because the US has made a strong claim for the # 1 position in CONCACAF. So if the US is eliminated in the first rounds and Mex, CR and T&T advance to the second rounds, I am certain, when we all come back across the pond, it will be business as usual when we face these teams. We will continue to make that claim for #1 in the region. And you know it too.
Nuff Respect though!
Green Beret ...DON"T BE AN ASS !!!!
First of all you may need a few more Community College classes in comprehension and understanding...
If you read my post again I was actually trying to make an objective post in support of the USA's approach and recent success..
Also I tried to somewhat validate the USA's success and not put them down like some posters like to do because they simply DO NOT LIKE THE US team (which they are entitled to)
To answer your question though..YES I do theorize a lot...I am an Engineer.
Secondly, I agree with them being ranked highly (NOT 5th...top 15 maybe)...
Now, though you are a big supporter of the US, you have resorted to the same tactics as the ones who just hate the US regardless of how far they have progressed....but again ur entitled to your opinion..
remind me what tht pic is about !!!After the USA game, we were down to 10 men in the first half yet we still held the game to a respectable 0:1 loss. Jack saved like a real boss.
1. Brazilië
2. Tsjechië
3. Nederland
4. Argentinië
5. Verenigde Staten
6. Spanje
7. Mexico
8. Frankrijk
9. Engeland
10. Portugal
11. Turkije
12. Italië
12. Nigeria
14. Denemarken
15. Kameroen
haha usa better then spain,france england.
how great!
i think this is to promote the usa
they still are the biggest richest,best country in the world off course
and then it is NOT possible that the usa are lower than place 20.
i think the americans are a bit dissapointed that they are just on the 5th place.with their top players like.................?
they completely deserve to be numberr ONE!!!!
and Kingman, meh pardner Kelvin Jack was ah real boss 'keeper oui
(http://www.socawarriorssc.com/gallery/albums/seniorteam/player/j/jack_kelvin/tt/vsUSA_08172005_1.jpg)
1. Brazilië
2. Tsjechië
3. Nederland
4. Argentinië
5. Verenigde Staten
6. Spanje
7. Mexico
8. Frankrijk
9. Engeland
10. Portugal
11. Turkije
12. Italië
12. Nigeria
14. Denemarken
15. Kameroen
haha usa better then spain,france england.
how great!
i think this is to promote the usa
they still are the biggest richest,best country in the world off course
and then it is NOT possible that the usa are lower than place 20.
i think the americans are a bit dissapointed that they are just on the 5th place.with their top players like.................?
they completely deserve to be numberr ONE!!!!
:rotfl: ;D :rotfl: Biggest? Sorry, incorrect. Best? Sorry, Maybe in your opinion. Richest? incorrect again. If you said best/fastest growing economy i would agree. I mean i would expect this coming from a new comer. Welcome son. :beermug:
Kingman
1. Brazilië
2. Tsjechië
3. Nederland
4. Argentinië
5. Verenigde Staten
6. Spanje
7. Mexico
8. Frankrijk
9. Engeland
10. Portugal
11. Turkije
12. Italië
12. Nigeria
14. Denemarken
15. Kameroen
haha usa better then spain,france england.
how great!
i think this is to promote the usa
they still are the biggest richest,best country in the world off course
and then it is NOT possible that the usa are lower than place 20.
i think the americans are a bit dissapointed that they are just on the 5th place.with their top players like.................?
they completely deserve to be numberr ONE!!!!
:rotfl: ;D :rotfl: Biggest? Sorry, incorrect. Best? Sorry, Maybe in your opinion. Richest? incorrect again. If you said best/fastest growing economy i would agree. I mean i would expect this coming from a new comer. Welcome son. :beermug:
Kingman
Kingman
Ah tink de man was jokin. A bit of sarcasm
plus...is the USA really the 4th best team in the world???
If you read the method of calculating the rankings, it makes a lot more sense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Rankings#Overview
Having said that, the method is a pack of chupidness. But as someone said above, it's the best we have. :beermug:
and Jamiaica still ahead ah we...
FIFA is changing its calculation system for the new rankings, awarding points on matches over the last four years instead of the last eight.
The new rankings will also take into account the World Cup results.
I think we might go mid to low 30's.
I read somewhere that the ranking formula is getting overhauled anyway after this cup.
I always thought the rankings are based on the amount of cash FIFA can extract from the national football association rather than the success of the football team.
I always thought the rankings are based on the amount of cash FIFA can extract from the national football association rather than the success of the football team.
Lemme guess. If it were an "honest" ranking, England would be #1? ;D ;D
TNT will move like 10 spots at the most I think
I always thought the rankings are based on the amount of cash FIFA can extract from the national football association rather than the success of the football team.
Lemme guess. If it were an "honest" ranking, England would be #1? ;D ;D
We've got no money left, we gave it all to Sven ;D
TNT will move like 10 spots at the most I think
Ten spots on A draw on two loses? Hell Nooooooooooo
but u made it to the world cup..and they didnt.
FIFA has announced that the ranking system will be updated again following the 2006 World Cup. The evaluation period will be cut from eight to four years and the rankings will be based on a simplified method of calculation.[2] The new calculation principles will be released to the public in Berlin during the final week of the 2006 World Cup, with the new rankings to be released on 12 July 2006.
Where did we finish out of 32 teams?? Nobody knows, because they dont rank teams based on fairy tale WC performances.
-----FIFA has announced that the ranking system will be updated again following the 2006 World Cup. The evaluation period will be cut from eight to four years and the rankings will be based on a simplified method of calculation.[2] The new calculation principles will be released to the public in Berlin during the final week of the 2006 World Cup, with the new rankings to be released on 12 July 2006.
And as I have said before... we going and get some hard jamming!!
Because... all we good results from 1998-2001 getting thrown out... especially that undefeated year in 1999! This period was our largest point gains ever in de rankings....
Now that they going de last 4 years.... taking into account other teams falling as well..... I think we will end up sixty something in de rankings maybe fifty-something!! Possibly much lower!
[b]15-Jun-2006Â NUREMBERG (Germany)Â England vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]10-Jun-2006Â DORTMUND (Germany)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Sweden 0:0Â [/b]
[b]28-Feb-2006Â LONDON (England)Â Iceland vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:2 (0:1)Â [/b]
[b]16-Nov-2005Â MANAMA (Bahrain)Â Bahrain vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]12-Oct-2005Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Mexico 2:1 (1:1)Â [/b]
[b]8-Oct-2005Â PANAMA CITY (Panama)Â Panama vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]3-Sep-2005Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Guatemala 3:2 (0:1)Â [/b] [b]10-Jul-2005Â MIAMI (USA)Â Panama vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:2 (1:1)Â [/b]
[b]6-Jul-2005Â MIAMI (USA)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Honduras 1:1 (1:1)Â [/b]
[b]4-Jun-2005Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Panama 2:0 (1:0)Â [/b]
[b]30-Mar-2005Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Costa Rica 0:0Â [/b]Â
[b]10-Oct-2004Â MARABELLA (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. St. Kitts and Nevis 5:1 (2:1)Â [/b]
[b]4-Sep-2004Â BASSETERRE (St. Kitts and Nevis)Â St. Kitts and Nevis vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:2 (1:1)Â [/b]
[b]18-Aug-2004Â KINGSTOWN (St. Vincent and the Grenadines)Â St. Vincent / Grenadines vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:2 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]14-Jul-2004Â SEOUL (Korea Republic)Â Korea Republic vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:1 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]20-Jun-2004Â MARABELLA (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Dominican Republic 4:0 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]13-Jun-2004Â SANTO DOMINGO (Dominican Republic)Â Dominican Republic vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:2 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]23-May-2004Â WEST BROMWICH (England)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Iraq 2:0 (1:0)Â [/b]
[b]31-Mar-2004Â CAIRO (Egypt)Â Egypt vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:1 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]19-Nov-2003Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Cuba 2:1 (2:0)Â [/b] [b]2-Aug-2003Â BASSETERRE (St. Kitts and Nevis)Â St. Kitts and Nevis vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:2 (0:2)Â [/b]
[b]3-Jul-2003Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Venezuela 2:2 (0:1)Â [/b]
[b]14-Jun-2003Â PORT ELIZABETH (South Africa)Â South Africa vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:1 (1:1)Â [/b]
[b]10-Jun-2003Â GABORONE (Botswana)Â Botswana vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:0Â [/b]
[b]31-May-2003Â NAIROBI (Kenya)Â Kenya vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:1 (1:1)Â [/b]
[b]28-Mar-2003Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Western Samoa vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]26-Mar-2003Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Antigua and Barbuda 2:0 (1:0)Â [/b]
[b]15-Nov-2002Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. St. Kitts and Nevis 2:0 (1:0)Â [/b]
[b]25-Jul-2002Â BASSETERRE (St. Kitts and Nevis)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Barbados 0:0 [/b]
[b]20-Jan-2002Â MIAMI (USA)Â Costa Rica vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:1 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]11-Jan-2002Â ST. GEORGE'S (Grenada)Â Grenada vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:3 (1:1)Â [/b]
[b]11-Nov-2001Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. USA 0:0Â [/b]
[b]7-Oct-2001Â SAN PEDRO SULA (Honduras)Â Honduras vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]5-Sep-2001Â MEXICO CITY (Mexico)Â Mexico vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:0 (2:0) [/b]
[b]3-Aug-2001Â SHANGHAI (China PR)Â Kuwait vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:1 a.e.t (1:1, 0:0) 4:3 PSOÂ [/b]
[b]17-May-2001Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Jamaica 2:1 (0:1)Â [/b]
[b]15-May-2001Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Barbados 5:0Â [/b]
[b]25-Apr-2001Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Mexico 1:1 (1:0)Â [/b]
[b]24-Mar-2001Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Guatemala 3:1Â [/b]
[b]15-Nov-2000Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Panama vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 (0:1)Â [/b]
[b]3-Sep-2000Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Canada 4:0 (2:0)Â [/b]
[b]16-Aug-2000Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Panama 6:0 (3:0)Â [/b]
[b]23-Jul-2000Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Mexico 1:0 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]16-Jul-2000Â EDMONTON (Canada)Â Canada vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:2 (0:1)Â [/b]
[b]16-Apr-2000Â SAN CRISTOBAL (Dominican Republic)Â Dominican Republic vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]2-Apr-2000Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Dominican Republic 3:0 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]20-Feb-2000Â SAN DIEGO (USA)Â Costa Rica vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:2 a.e.t (1:1, 0:1) [/b]Â
[b]15-Feb-2000Â LOS ANGELES (USA)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Guatemala 4:2 (2:1) [/b]Â
[b]8-Sep-1999Â MIAMI (USA)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Colombia 4:3Â [/b] [b]11-Jun-1999Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Haiti 6:1Â [/b]
[b]5-Jun-1999Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Grenada 7:0Â [/b] [b]3-Jun-1999Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Jamaica 1:0Â [/b]
[b]6-May-1999Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. South Africa 2:0 (0:0)[/b]Â
[b]28-Mar-1999Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Jamaica 2:0 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]29-Jul-1998Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Haiti 4:1 (0:0)Â [/b]
[b]26-Jul-1998Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Dominica 8:0 (0:0)Â [/b]
well its about time cuase i eh understand how de ass usa is no 5 in the world
Quote from: jose on Today at 07:13:22 AM
well its about time cuase i eh understand how de ass usa is no 5 in the world
no matter how easy or complicated the system is, if it shows USA as 5th, then anyone with a pair of eyes can see the system is wrong!
Rank Team Pts: Jul 06 +/-Rank May 06 +/-Pts: May 06
1 Brazil 1630 0 803
2 Italy 1550 11 822
3 Argentina 1472 6 726
4 France 1462 4 713
5 England 1434 5 693
6 Netherlands 1322 -3 554
7 Spain 1309 -2 553
8 Portugal 1301 -1 551
9 Germany 1229 10 533
10 Czech Republic 1223 -8 451
11 Nigeria 1149 0 413
12 Cameroon 1109 3 387
13 Switzerland 1028 22 380
14 Uruguay 985 8 296
15 Ukraine 961 30 352
16 USA 933 -11 177
17 Denmark 927 -6 191
18 Mexico 924 -14 166
19 Paraguay 915 14 262
20 Côte d'Ivoire 909 12 240
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38 Honduras 695 4 83
45 Costa Rica 636 -19 -47
53 Guatemala 587 9 22
54 Canada 567 29 52
59 Panama 522 22 -1
64 T&T 487 -17 -117
78 Jamaica 409 -32 -198
Panana, Guatemala, Honduras and CANADA over us..... what a blasted joke....
If we reach over 75 does this mean our players cannot sign a UK contract.
What wrong with allyuh!!??
Allyuh does just have some knee jerk reaction without even doin ah ounce of research... or trying to understand....
I saying this 2 months now.... that we supposed to drop ever since dey annonunce de new ranking procedure.... Midknight also been saying de same ting.....
This is about right..... It certainly better than de old rankings.......... Allyuh get over it
Canada has 2 wins (Luxembourg, Austria) and a draw (USA) in their last 3 matches (all on the road).
How many internationals have T&T played without a victory ? Didn't you lose a pack before the World Cup ?Â
I agree you had a good World Cup, but you tell me what your record is in the last 6 -8 internationals ?
First of all I think that the 32 teams who made it to the world cup should be ranked in that order and then everyone else.
Canada has 2 wins (Luxembourg, Austria) and a draw (USA) in their last 3 matches (all on the road).
How many internationals have T&T played without a victory ? Didn't you lose a pack before the World Cup ?Â
I agree you had a good World Cup, but you tell me what your record is in the last 6 -8 internationals ?
Canada has 2 wins (Luxembourg, Austria) and a draw (USA) in their last 3 matches (all on the road).
How many internationals have T&T played without a victory ? Didn't you lose a pack before the World Cup ?Â
I agree you had a good World Cup, but you tell me what your record is in the last 6 -8 internationals ?
who has Canada played in their last 6-8 internationals, how did they do?
Canada has 2 wins (Luxembourg, Austria) and a draw (USA) in their last 3 matches (all on the road).
How many internationals have T&T played without a victory ? Didn't you lose a pack before the World Cup ?
I agree you had a good World Cup, but you tell me what your record is in the last 6 -8 internationals ?
who has Canada played in their last 6-8 internationals, how did they do?
according to the fifa site, the last 8 for Canada:
austria 0 - 2 canada in vienna, Mar 1, 2006
usa 0-0 canada in san diego, Jan 22, 2006
luxembourg 0-1 canada in hesperance, Nov 16, 2005
spain 2-1 canada in santandar, Sep 3, 2005
cuba 1-2 canada in foxboro, Jul 12, 2005
usa 2-0 canada in seattle, Jul 9, 2005
costa rica 1-0 in seattle, Jul 7, 2005
honduras 2-1 in vancouver, Jul 2, 2005
3 wins, 1 draw, 4 losses
Canada has 2 wins (Luxembourg, Austria) and a draw (USA) in their last 3 matches (all on the road).
How many internationals have T&T played without a victory ? Didn't you lose a pack before the World Cup ?Â
I agree you had a good World Cup, but you tell me what your record is in the last 6 -8 internationals ?
who has Canada played in their last 6-8 internationals, how did they do?
according to the fifa site, the last 8 for Canada:
austria 0 - 2 canada  in vienna, Mar 1, 2006
usa 0-0 canada  in san diego, Jan 22, 2006
luxembourg 0-1 canada  in hesperance, Nov 16, 2005
spain 2-1 canada  in santandar, Sep 3, 2005
cuba 1-2 canada  in foxboro, Jul 12, 2005
usa 2-0 canada  in seattle, Jul 9, 2005
costa rica 1-0 Â in seattle, Jul 7, 2005
honduras 2-1 Â in vancouver, Jul 2, 2005
3 wins, 1 draw, 4 losses
Canada has 2 wins (Luxembourg, Austria) and a draw (USA) in their last 3 matches (all on the road).
Canada has 2 wins (Luxembourg, Austria) and a draw (USA) in their last 3 matches (all on the road).
How many internationals have T&T played without a victory ? Didn't you lose a pack before the World Cup ?Â
I agree you had a good World Cup, but you tell me what your record is in the last 6 -8 internationals ?
who has Canada played in their last 6-8 internationals, how did they do?
according to the fifa site, the last 8 for Canada:
austria 0 - 2 canada  in vienna, Mar 1, 2006
usa 0-0 canada  in san diego, Jan 22, 2006
luxembourg 0-1 canada  in hesperance, Nov 16, 2005
spain 2-1 canada  in santandar, Sep 3, 2005
cuba 1-2 canada  in foxboro, Jul 12, 2005
usa 2-0 canada  in seattle, Jul 9, 2005
costa rica 1-0 Â in seattle, Jul 7, 2005
honduras 2-1 Â in vancouver, Jul 2, 2005
3 wins, 1 draw, 4 losses
AND YUH POINT IS ?
Yep they do. In 2004 29,000 Trinis were blocked from coming to the UK I believe.Panana, Guatemala, Honduras and CANADA over us..... what a blasted joke....
If we reach over 75 does this mean our players cannot sign a UK contract.
I don't think these rankings are even worth worrying about, they are so far off the mark.
I'm not sure if TnT nationals need a work permit for the UK do they? if so, then they use an avaerage ranking over a period of time, rather than the ranking that applies at the time of the application. Any rejections are usually overturned by appeal anyway.
ok so ah hearin one setta people sayin dat de rankin system is ta ta and we should not be ranked so low.....think about it logically (TI) ;D and give your OPINION as to where we should be ranked.
Canada has 2 wins (Luxembourg, Austria) and a draw (USA) in their last 3 matches (all on the road).
How many internationals have T&T played without a victory ? Didn't you lose a pack before the World Cup ?Â
I agree you had a good World Cup, but you tell me what your record is in the last 6 -8 internationals ?
who has Canada played in their last 6-8 internationals, how did they do?
according to the fifa site, the last 8 for Canada:
austria 0 - 2 canada  in vienna, Mar 1, 2006
usa 0-0 canada  in san diego, Jan 22, 2006
luxembourg 0-1 canada  in hesperance, Nov 16, 2005
spain 2-1 canada  in santandar, Sep 3, 2005
cuba 1-2 canada  in foxboro, Jul 12, 2005
usa 2-0 canada  in seattle, Jul 9, 2005
costa rica 1-0 Â in seattle, Jul 7, 2005
honduras 2-1 Â in vancouver, Jul 2, 2005
3 wins, 1 draw, 4 losses
AND YUH POINT IS ?
aks mr mc, he brought forward the question.
Canada has 2 wins (Luxembourg, Austria) and a draw (USA) in their last 3 matches (all on the road).
How many internationals have T&T played without a victory ? Didn't you lose a pack before the World Cup ?Â
I agree you had a good World Cup, but you tell me what your record is in the last 6 -8 internationals ?
who has Canada played in their last 6-8 internationals, how did they do?
according to the fifa site, the last 8 for Canada:
austria 0 - 2 canada  in vienna, Mar 1, 2006
usa 0-0 canada  in san diego, Jan 22, 2006
luxembourg 0-1 canada  in hesperance, Nov 16, 2005
spain 2-1 canada  in santandar, Sep 3, 2005
cuba 1-2 canada  in foxboro, Jul 12, 2005
usa 2-0 canada  in seattle, Jul 9, 2005
costa rica 1-0 Â in seattle, Jul 7, 2005
honduras 2-1 Â in vancouver, Jul 2, 2005
3 wins, 1 draw, 4 losses
AND YUH POINT IS ?
aks mr mc, he brought forward the question.
Or I did'nt realize yuh wok was to just post Canada international stats when man ask....sorry sorry I though yuh had ah mind ah yuh own an had an opinion on the topic,my bad.
SSSttteeeuppps....ah know something was wrong with this blasted thing when ah see team like de USA ranking 5th and ting....
And what de hell Canada do in de last month to rank above we.....Chupss I say, Chupsss...
ok so ah hearin one setta people sayin dat de rankin system is ta ta and we should not be ranked so low.....think about it logically (TI) ;D and give your OPINION as to where we should be ranked.
just about 64th
ok so ah hearin one setta people sayin dat de rankin system is ta ta and we should not be ranked so low.....think about it logically (TI) ;D and give your OPINION as to where we should be ranked.
why u singling me out like if im de only one advocating a better ranking ??? haul yuh ass, if you think canada should b ranked higher, ur an idiot juss like de fifa rankings committee :devil:
....so in other words beatin pakistan is the same as beating brazil to fifa....
First of all I think that the 32 teams who made it to the world cup should be ranked in that order and then everyone else.
get serious .... That's something a primary school student would say....
You and I know the World Cup is not about the 32 best teams in the World....I can't believe this hour of the day, people still talking that kinda nonsense.
im kinda pissed about de rankings also, but hey look at de bright side atleast we ranked higher than jamaica :chilling:
Canada has 2 wins (Luxembourg, Austria) and a draw (USA) in their last 3 matches (all on the road).
How many internationals have T&T played without a victory ? Didn't you lose a pack before the World Cup ?Â
I agree you had a good World Cup, but you tell me what your record is in the last 6 -8 internationals ?
who has Canada played in their last 6-8 internationals, how did they do?
according to the fifa site, the last 8 for Canada:
austria 0 - 2 canada  in vienna, Mar 1, 2006
usa 0-0 canada  in san diego, Jan 22, 2006
luxembourg 0-1 canada  in hesperance, Nov 16, 2005
spain 2-1 canada  in santandar, Sep 3, 2005
cuba 1-2 canada  in foxboro, Jul 12, 2005
usa 2-0 canada  in seattle, Jul 9, 2005
costa rica 1-0 Â in seattle, Jul 7, 2005
honduras 2-1 Â in vancouver, Jul 2, 2005
3 wins, 1 draw, 4 losses
AND YUH POINT IS ?
aks mr mc, he brought forward the question.
First of all I think that the 32 teams who made it to the world cup should be ranked in that order and then everyone else.
get serious .... That's something a primary school student would say....
You and I know the World Cup is not about the 32 best teams in the World....I can't believe this hour of the day, people still talking that kinda nonsense.
Kicker, like de crack in de liberty bell ha allyuh yankee minds up in smoke or war, de last time I check the world cup is about the best 32 teams at that point in time, an ask any primary school kid who win de world cup they go tell yuh Italy, it matters not if Italy loses after the world cup but for that month they were the best in the world. An this fifa ranking, what do we expect from corrupt organization, a straight forward easy to follow guide, or something yuh have to pull out a calculator and one setta stats later to tell we Brazil is still no.1 even though the whole world would disagree.
If it was any good the top 32 teams would have been in the top ranks of their own confederations.
How come Honduras Guatemala, Canada move up and we move down??? How come they better than we...
Costa Rica better than we ????
USA higher than Mexico, but Mexico was in 2nd rounds???
System is flawed..... Error is in the ratio factor of confederation ranking.
Costa Rica better than we ????
First of all I think that the 32 teams who made it to the world cup should be ranked in that order and then everyone else.
get serious .... That's something a primary school student would say....
You and I know the World Cup is not about the 32 best teams in the World....I can't believe this hour of the day, people still talking that kinda nonsense.
First of all I think that the 32 teams who made it to the world cup should be ranked in that order and then everyone else.
get serious .... That's something a primary school student would say....
You and I know the World Cup is not about the 32 best teams in the World....I can't believe this hour of the day, people still talking that kinda nonsense.
Kicker, like de crack in de liberty bell ha allyuh yankee minds up in smoke or war, de last time I check the world cup is about the best 32 teams at that point in time, an ask any primary school kid who win de world cup they go tell yuh Italy, it matters not if Italy loses after the world cup but for that month they were the best in the world. An this fifa ranking, what do we expect from corrupt organization, a straight forward easy to follow guide, or something yuh have to pull out a calculator and one setta stats later to tell we Brazil is still no.1 even though the whole world would disagree.
Big deal if we ranked 64th. At the end of the day, when two team meet on the field for battle all we need to do is get the results and ensure that football in Trinidad continues to grow.
Kingman
Dat list is a crock of f**kin shit yuh have teams like Uzbekestan ranked highly above us...
i mean... Panama are above us... the last three games we played against Panama we beat them 5-0, 2-0 and 1-0. And they are how many places infront of us!?
Fifa is a bunch ah f**kin jokers.
All this Rankings thing is pure rubbish. Countries are just going to do what Norway and USA did. Figure out the system, play games to match them and move up the rankings. USA did it, top 5 in the World, Please! Norway back a few years Top 5 in the World. Please!
Right there people should of just steups.
For the sceptical among us, I have put the results of both teams (Canada and TNT) multiplied by the Intercontinental weightings, the tournament rating and (as accurately as possible) the weighting for the strength of the opposition I used the actual strength as i can't be bothered to go back and check every ranking at every date)
Canada
1-Mar-2006 Â VIENNA (Austria) Â Austria vs. Canada 0:2 (0:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.925 X 1.4
22-Jan-2006 Â SAN DIEGO (USA) Â USA vs. Canada 0:0 Â 1 X 1 X 0.85 X 1.84
16-Nov-2005 Â (Luxembourg) Â Luxembourg vs. Canada 0:1 (0:0) 3 X 1 X 0.925 X 0.5
3-Sep-2005 Â SANTANDER (Spain) Â Spain vs. Canada 2:1 (1:0) Â
12-Jul-2005 Â FOXBORO/BOSTON (USA) Â Canada vs. Cuba 2:1 (0:0) 3 X 3 X 0.85 X 1.04
These matches are multiplied by 1
388.5 + 156.4 + 138.75 + 795.6 = 1479.25/5 = 295.8
TNT
20-Jun-2006 Â KAISERSLAUTERN (Germany) Â Paraguay vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (1:0) Â
15-Jun-2006 Â NUREMBERG (Germany) Â England vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (0:0) Â
10-Jun-2006 Â DORTMUND (Germany) Â TNT vs. Sweden 0:0 1 X 4 X 0.925 X 1.78
3-Jun-2006 Â PRAGUE (Czech Republic) Â Czech Republic vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:0 (3:0) Â
31-May-2006 Â CELJE (Slovenia) Â Slovenia vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:1 (2:1) Â
27-May-2006 Â GRAZ (Austria) Â Wales vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:1 (1:1)
10-May-2006 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Peru 1:1 (0:1) 1 X 1 X 0.915 X 1.58
28-Feb-2006 Â LONDON (England) Â Iceland vs. TNT 0:2 (0:1) 3 X 1 X 0.925 X 0.93
16-Nov-2005 Â MANAMA (Bahrain) Â Bahrain vs. TNT 0:1 (0:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.06
12-Nov-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) TNT vs. Bahrain 1:1 (0:0) 1 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.06
12-Oct-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Mexico 2:1 (1:1) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X Â 1.82
8-Oct-2005 Â (Panama) Â Panama vs. TNT 0:1 (0:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.41 Â
7-Sep-2005 Â SAN JOSE (Costa Rica) Â Costa Rica vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (1:0) Â
3-Sep-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Guat 3:2 (0:1) Â 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.47
17-Aug-2005 Â HARTFORD (USA) Â USA vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:0 (1:0) Â
12-Jul-2005 Â MIAMI (USA) Â Colombia vs. TNT 2:0 (0:0)
These matches are multiplied by 1
685.6 + 144.57 + 258.075 + 675.75 + 225.25 + 1160.25 + 898.875 + 937.125 = 4985.495/16 = 311.59
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Canada
9-Jul-2005 Â SEATTLE (USA) Â USA vs. Canada 2:0 (0:0) Â
7-Jul-2005 Â SEATTLE (USA) Â Canada vs. Costa Rica 0:1 (0:1) Â
2-Jul-2005 Â VANCOUVER (Canada) Â Canada vs. Honduras 1:2 (0:0) Â
26-Mar-2005 Â BARCELOS (Portugal) Â Portugal vs. Canada 4:1 (2:0) Â
9-Feb-2005 Â BELFAST (NI) Â Northern Ireland vs. Canada 0:1 (0:1) Â 3 X 1 X 0.925 X 1.25
17-Nov-2004 Â GUATEMALA-CITY Â Guat vs. Canada 0:1 (0:0) Â 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.47
13-Oct-2004 Â VANCOUVER (Canada) Â Canada vs. Costa Rica 1:3 (1:0) Â
9-Oct-2004 Â (Honduras) Â Honduras vs. Canada 1:1 (0:0) Â 1 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.62
8-Sep-2004 Â SAN JOSE (Costa Rica) Â Costa Rica vs. Canada 1:0 (0:0) Â
4-Sep-2004 (Canada) Â Canada vs. Honduras 1:1 (0:0) Â 1 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.62
18-Aug-2004 Â VANCOUVER (Canada) Â Canada vs. Guatemala 0:2 (0:1)
These points are multiplied by 0.5
346.875 + 937.125 + 344.25 + 344.25 = 1972.5/11 =179.31*0.5 = 89.65
TNT
10-Jul-2005 Â MIAMI (USA) Â Panama vs. TNT 2:2 (1:1) 3 X 3 X 0.85 X 1.41
6-Jul-2005 Â MIAMI (USA) Â TNT vs. Honduras 1:1 (1:1) 3 X 3 X 0.85 X 1.62
8-Jun-2005 Â MONTERREY (Mexico) Â Mexico vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (0:0) Â
4-Jun-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Panama 2:0 (1:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.41 Â
27-May-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Bermuda 1:0 (1:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
25-May-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Bermuda 4:0 (1:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
30-Mar-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Costa Rica 0:0 1 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.55
26-Mar-2005 Â GUATEMALA-CITY (Guatemala) Â Guatemala vs. Trinidad and Tobago 5:1 (3:1) Â
24-Feb-2005 Â BRIDGETOWN (Barbados) Â Barbados vs. TNT 2:3 (1:2) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
22-Feb-2005 Â BRIDGETOWN (Barbados) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Cuba 1:2 (1:1) Â
20-Feb-2005 Â BRIDGETOWN (Barbados) Â Jamaica vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:1 (2:1) Â
9-Feb-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. USA 1:2 (0:1) Â
6-Feb-2005 Â SCARBOROUGH (Trinidad and Tobago) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Haiti 0:1 (0:1) Â
3-Feb-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Haiti 2:1 (2:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.77
1-Feb-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Haiti 1:0 (0:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.77
23-Jan-2005 Â MARABELLA (TNT) Â TNT vs. Azerbaijan 2:0 (1:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.925 X 0.91
21-Jan-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. AZER 1:0 (1:0) 3 X 1 X 0.925 X 0.91
16-Jan-2005 Â KINGSTOWN (SVG) Â SVG vs. TNT 1:0 (0:0) Â
12-Jan-2005 Â ST. JOHN'S (A+B) Â A+B vs. TNT 2:1 (0:0) Â
9-Jan-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. SVG 3:1 (0:1) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.71
19-Dec-2004 Â TUNAPUNA (TNT) Â TNT vs. BVI 2:0 (1:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
12-Dec-2004 Â TORTOLA (BVI) Â BVI vs. TNT 0:4 (0:1) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
28-Nov-2004 Â TUNAPUNA (TNT) Â TNT vs. Surinam 1:0 (0:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
26-Nov-2004 Â TUNAPUNA (TNT) Â TNT vs. Grenada 2:0 (1:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
24-Nov-2004 Â TUNAPUNA (TNT) Â TNT vs. Puerto Rico 5:0 (2:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5 Â
17-Nov-2004 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. SVG 2:1 (0:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.71
13-Oct-2004 Â PUEBLA (Mexico) Â Mexico vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:0 (1:0) Â
10-Oct-2004 Â MARABELLA (TNT) Â TNT vs. SKN 5:1 (2:1) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.64
8-Sep-2004 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Mexico 1:3 (1:2)
4-Sep-2004 Â BASSETERRE (SKN) Â SKN vs. TNT 1:2 (1:1) Â 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.64
18-Aug-2004 Â KINGSTOWN (SVG) Â SVG vs. TNT 0:2 (0:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.71
11-Aug-2004 Â GUATEMALA CITY (Guatemala) Â Guatemala vs. Trinidad and Tobago 4:1 (0:0) Â
14-Jul-2004 Â SEOUL (Korea) Â Korea vs. TNT 1:1 (0:0) Â 1 X 1 X 0.85 X 1.44
These matches are multiplied by 0.5
1078.65+1239.3+898.875+127.5+127.5+329.375+127.5+196.35+196.35+252.525+252.525+181.75 + 127.5+ 127.5 + 127.5 + 127.5 + 127.5 + 452.625 + 408 + 408 + 452.625 + 122.4 = 7361.8504/33 = 223.09*0.5 = 111.54
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Canada
3-Jul-2004 Â NASHVILLE (USA) Â USA vs. Canada 1:0 (0:0) Â
16-Jun-2004 Â (ONTARIO) (Canada) Â Belize vs. Canada 0:4 (0:1) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.5
13-Jun-2004 Â (ONTARIO) (Canada) Â Canada vs. Belize 4:0 (1:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.5
30-May-2004 Â WREXHAM (Wales) Â Wales vs. Canada 1:0 (1:0) Â
18-Jan-2004 (Barbados) Â Barbados vs. Canada 0:1 (0:1) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
18-Nov-2003 Â DUBLIN (Republic of Ireland) Â Republic of Ireland vs. Canada 3:0 (1:0) Â
15-Nov-2003 Â TEPLICE (Czech Republic) Â Czech Republic vs. Canada 5:1 (1:0) Â
11-Oct-2003 Â TAMPERE (Finland) Â Finland vs. Canada 3:2 (3:0) Â
14-Jul-2003 Â FOXBORO/BOSTON (USA) Â Canada vs. Cuba 0:2 (0:1) Â
12-Jul-2003 Â FOXBORO (USA) Â Costa Rica vs. Canada 0:1 (0:0) 3 X 3 X 0.85 X 1.55
These points are multiplied by 0.3
= 318.75 + 318.75 + 127.5 + 1185.75 = 1950.75/10 = 195.075*0.3 = 58.52
TNT
10-Jul-2004 Â BANGKOK (Thailand) Â Thailand vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:2 (0:2) Â
20-Jun-2004 Â (Trinidad and Tobago) Â TNT vs. DR 4:0 (0:0) Â 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.5
13-Jun-2004 Â (Dominican Republic) Â DR vs. TNT 0:2 (0:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.5
6-Jun-2004 Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago) Â TNT vs. Northern Ireland 0:3 (0:2) Â
30-May-2004 Â EDINBURGH (Scotland) Â Scotland vs. Trinidad and Tobago 4:1 (4:0) Â
23-May-2004 Â WEST BROMWICH (England) Â TNT vs. Iraq 2:0 (1:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 1.12
31-Mar-2004 Â CAIRO (Egypt) Â Egypt vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:1 (0:0) Â
2-Mar-2004 Â (Trinidad and Tobago) Â TNT vs. Guyana 1:0 (1:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.69
12-Feb-2004 Â HAMILTON (Bermuda) Â Bermuda vs. TNT 2:2 (1:1) 1 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
10-Feb-2004 Â HAMILTON (Bermuda) Â Bermuda vs. TNT 0:1 (0:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
19-Nov-2003 (TNT) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Cuba 2:1 (2:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 1.02
10-Sep-2003 Â MARRAKECH (Morocco) Â Morocco vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (1:0) Â
2-Aug-2003 Â (St. Kitts and Nevis) Â SKN vs. TNT 1:2 (0:2) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.64
31-Jul-2003 Â BASSETERRE (St. Kitts and Nevis) Â Haiti vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (0:0) Â
These matches are multiplied by 0.3
=318.75 + 318.75 + 285.6+ 175.95 + 42.5+127.5 + 260.1 + 163.2 = 1692.35/14*0.3 = 36.26
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Canada
1-Jun-2003 Â WOLFSBURG (Germany) Â Germany vs. Canada 4:1 (1:1) Â
29-Mar-2003 Â TALLINN (Estonia) Â Estonia vs. Canada 2:1 (0:0) Â
12-Feb-2003 Â TRIPOLIS (Libya) Â Libya vs. Canada 2:4 (1:2) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 1.21
18-Jan-2003 Â FORT LAUDERDALE (USA) Â USA vs. Canada 4:0 (3:0) Â
15-Oct-2002 Â EDINBURGH (Scotland) Â Scotland vs. Canada 3:1 (1:1)
These points are multiplied by 0.2
= 308.55/5 = 61.71*0.2 = 12.342
TNT
3-Jul-2003 (TNT) Â TNT vs. Venezuela 2:2 (0:1) 1 X 1 X 0.915 X 1.32
14-Jun-2003 Â PORT ELIZABETH (South Africa) Â South Africa vs. TNT 2:1 (1:1) Â
10-Jun-2003 Â (Botswana) Â Botswana vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:0 1 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.96
31-May-2003 Â (Kenya) Â Kenya vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:1 (1:1) 1 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.83
30-Apr-2003 Â SAN CRISTOBAL (Venezuela) Â Venezuela vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:0 (2:0) Â
25-Apr-2003 Â FORT-DE-FRANCE (Martinique) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Honduras 0:2 (0:0) Â
23-Apr-2003 Â FORT-DE-FRANCE (Martinique) Â Martinique vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:2 (0:2) Â
30-Mar-2003 Â (Trinidad and Tobago) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Cuba 1:3 (1:1) Â
28-Mar-2003 Â (TNT) Â Western Samoa vs. TNT 0:1 (0:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.50
26-Mar-2003 Â (TNT) Â TNT vs. Antigua and Barbuda 2:0 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.54 Â
29-Jan-2003 Â (TNT) Â TNT vs. Finland 1:2 (1:0) Â
17-Nov-2002 Â (TNT) Â St. Lucia vs. TNT 1:0 (0:0) Â
15-Nov-2002 Â (TNT) Â TNT vs. St. Kitts and Nevis 2:0 (1:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.64
28-Jul-2002 Â (St. Kitts and Nevis) Â St. Kitts and Nevis vs. TNT 2:1 (0:1) Â
27-Jul-2002 Â BASSETERRE (St. Kitts and Nevis) Â TNT vs. Chinese Taipei 0:1 (0:1) Â
25-Jul-2002 Â (St. Kitts and Nevis) Â TNT vs. Barbados 0:0 Â 1 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
These matches are multiplied by 0.2
120.78 + 81.6 + 70.55 + 127.5 + 137.7 + 163.2 + 42.5 = 743.83/16*0.2 = 9.298
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CAN 12.342 + 58.52 + 89.65 + 295.8 = 456.312 BUT Can 567
TNT 9.298 + 36.26 + 111.54 + 311.59 = 468.68 BUT TNT 487
Obviously my calculations are always going to be in trouble since i don't check the ranking of each team at the moment each match was played. Nevertheless Trinidad's actual and calculated toatals aren't that off. I have a huge disparity for Canada's though that I can't explain just that way. Anyone care to tackle it?
It would seem though that Canada's opponents that they've beaten have more of a tendency to be teams that have droppes dorribly in the rankings between the time they playe them and now. In particular the two victories over Cuba and Costa Rica in the gold Cup give the Canadains 40 more points than I calculated when I used the rankings at the date of the games to calculate those matches.
My question is if the old system needed overhauling so badly why are we still using the rankings from the system to calculate the new overhauled rankings  ???
For the sceptical among us, I have put the results of both teams (Canada and TNT) multiplied by the Intercontinental weightings, the tournament rating and (as accurately as possible) the weighting for the strength of the opposition I used the actual strength as i can't be bothered to go back and check every ranking at every date)
Canada
1-Mar-2006 Â VIENNA (Austria) Â Austria vs. Canada 0:2 (0:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.925 X 1.4
22-Jan-2006 Â SAN DIEGO (USA) Â USA vs. Canada 0:0 Â 1 X 1 X 0.85 X 1.84
16-Nov-2005 Â (Luxembourg) Â Luxembourg vs. Canada 0:1 (0:0) 3 X 1 X 0.925 X 0.5
3-Sep-2005 Â SANTANDER (Spain) Â Spain vs. Canada 2:1 (1:0) Â
12-Jul-2005 Â FOXBORO/BOSTON (USA) Â Canada vs. Cuba 2:1 (0:0) 3 X 3 X 0.85 X 1.04
These matches are multiplied by 1
388.5 + 156.4 + 138.75 + 795.6 = 1479.25/5 = 295.8
TNT
20-Jun-2006 Â KAISERSLAUTERN (Germany) Â Paraguay vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (1:0) Â
15-Jun-2006 Â NUREMBERG (Germany) Â England vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (0:0) Â
10-Jun-2006 Â DORTMUND (Germany) Â TNT vs. Sweden 0:0 1 X 4 X 0.925 X 1.78
3-Jun-2006 Â PRAGUE (Czech Republic) Â Czech Republic vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:0 (3:0) Â
31-May-2006 Â CELJE (Slovenia) Â Slovenia vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:1 (2:1) Â
27-May-2006 Â GRAZ (Austria) Â Wales vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:1 (1:1)
10-May-2006 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Peru 1:1 (0:1) 1 X 1 X 0.915 X 1.58
28-Feb-2006 Â LONDON (England) Â Iceland vs. TNT 0:2 (0:1) 3 X 1 X 0.925 X 0.93
16-Nov-2005 Â MANAMA (Bahrain) Â Bahrain vs. TNT 0:1 (0:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.06
12-Nov-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) TNT vs. Bahrain 1:1 (0:0) 1 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.06
12-Oct-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Mexico 2:1 (1:1) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X Â 1.82
8-Oct-2005 Â (Panama) Â Panama vs. TNT 0:1 (0:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.41 Â
7-Sep-2005 Â SAN JOSE (Costa Rica) Â Costa Rica vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (1:0) Â
3-Sep-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Guat 3:2 (0:1) Â 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.47
17-Aug-2005 Â HARTFORD (USA) Â USA vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:0 (1:0) Â
12-Jul-2005 Â MIAMI (USA) Â Colombia vs. TNT 2:0 (0:0)
These matches are multiplied by 1
685.6 + 144.57 + 258.075 + 675.75 + 225.25 + 1160.25 + 898.875 + 937.125 = 4985.495/16 = 311.59
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Canada
9-Jul-2005 Â SEATTLE (USA) Â USA vs. Canada 2:0 (0:0) Â
7-Jul-2005 Â SEATTLE (USA) Â Canada vs. Costa Rica 0:1 (0:1) Â
2-Jul-2005 Â VANCOUVER (Canada) Â Canada vs. Honduras 1:2 (0:0) Â
26-Mar-2005 Â BARCELOS (Portugal) Â Portugal vs. Canada 4:1 (2:0) Â
9-Feb-2005 Â BELFAST (NI) Â Northern Ireland vs. Canada 0:1 (0:1) Â 3 X 1 X 0.925 X 1.25
17-Nov-2004 Â GUATEMALA-CITY Â Guat vs. Canada 0:1 (0:0) Â 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.47
13-Oct-2004 Â VANCOUVER (Canada) Â Canada vs. Costa Rica 1:3 (1:0) Â
9-Oct-2004 Â (Honduras) Â Honduras vs. Canada 1:1 (0:0) Â 1 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.62
8-Sep-2004 Â SAN JOSE (Costa Rica) Â Costa Rica vs. Canada 1:0 (0:0) Â
4-Sep-2004 (Canada) Â Canada vs. Honduras 1:1 (0:0) Â 1 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.62
18-Aug-2004 Â VANCOUVER (Canada) Â Canada vs. Guatemala 0:2 (0:1)
These points are multiplied by 0.5
346.875 + 937.125 + 344.25 + 344.25 = 1972.5/11 =179.31*0.5 = 89.65
TNT
10-Jul-2005 Â MIAMI (USA) Â Panama vs. TNT 2:2 (1:1) 3 X 3 X 0.85 X 1.41
6-Jul-2005 Â MIAMI (USA) Â TNT vs. Honduras 1:1 (1:1) 3 X 3 X 0.85 X 1.62
8-Jun-2005 Â MONTERREY (Mexico) Â Mexico vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (0:0) Â
4-Jun-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Panama 2:0 (1:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.41 Â
27-May-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Bermuda 1:0 (1:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
25-May-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Bermuda 4:0 (1:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
30-Mar-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Costa Rica 0:0 1 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 1.55
26-Mar-2005 Â GUATEMALA-CITY (Guatemala) Â Guatemala vs. Trinidad and Tobago 5:1 (3:1) Â
24-Feb-2005 Â BRIDGETOWN (Barbados) Â Barbados vs. TNT 2:3 (1:2) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
22-Feb-2005 Â BRIDGETOWN (Barbados) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Cuba 1:2 (1:1) Â
20-Feb-2005 Â BRIDGETOWN (Barbados) Â Jamaica vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:1 (2:1) Â
9-Feb-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. USA 1:2 (0:1) Â
6-Feb-2005 Â SCARBOROUGH (Trinidad and Tobago) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Haiti 0:1 (0:1) Â
3-Feb-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Haiti 2:1 (2:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.77
1-Feb-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. Haiti 1:0 (0:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.77
23-Jan-2005 Â MARABELLA (TNT) Â TNT vs. Azerbaijan 2:0 (1:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.925 X 0.91
21-Jan-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. AZER 1:0 (1:0) 3 X 1 X 0.925 X 0.91
16-Jan-2005 Â KINGSTOWN (SVG) Â SVG vs. TNT 1:0 (0:0) Â
12-Jan-2005 Â ST. JOHN'S (A+B) Â A+B vs. TNT 2:1 (0:0) Â
9-Jan-2005 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. SVG 3:1 (0:1) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.71
19-Dec-2004 Â TUNAPUNA (TNT) Â TNT vs. BVI 2:0 (1:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
12-Dec-2004 Â TORTOLA (BVI) Â BVI vs. TNT 0:4 (0:1) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
28-Nov-2004 Â TUNAPUNA (TNT) Â TNT vs. Surinam 1:0 (0:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
26-Nov-2004 Â TUNAPUNA (TNT) Â TNT vs. Grenada 2:0 (1:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
24-Nov-2004 Â TUNAPUNA (TNT) Â TNT vs. Puerto Rico 5:0 (2:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5 Â
17-Nov-2004 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â TNT vs. SVG 2:1 (0:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.71
13-Oct-2004 Â PUEBLA (Mexico) Â Mexico vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:0 (1:0) Â
10-Oct-2004 Â MARABELLA (TNT) Â TNT vs. SKN 5:1 (2:1) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.64
8-Sep-2004 Â PORT OF SPAIN (TNT) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Mexico 1:3 (1:2)
4-Sep-2004 Â BASSETERRE (SKN) Â SKN vs. TNT 1:2 (1:1) Â 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.64
18-Aug-2004 Â KINGSTOWN (SVG) Â SVG vs. TNT 0:2 (0:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.71
11-Aug-2004 Â GUATEMALA CITY (Guatemala) Â Guatemala vs. Trinidad and Tobago 4:1 (0:0) Â
14-Jul-2004 Â SEOUL (Korea) Â Korea vs. TNT 1:1 (0:0) Â 1 X 1 X 0.85 X 1.44
These matches are multiplied by 0.5
1078.65+1239.3+898.875+127.5+127.5+329.375+127.5+196.35+196.35+252.525+252.525+181.75 + 127.5+ 127.5 + 127.5 + 127.5 + 127.5 + 452.625 + 408 + 408 + 452.625 + 122.4 = 7361.8504/33 = 223.09*0.5 = 111.54
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Canada
3-Jul-2004 Â NASHVILLE (USA) Â USA vs. Canada 1:0 (0:0) Â
16-Jun-2004 Â (ONTARIO) (Canada) Â Belize vs. Canada 0:4 (0:1) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.5
13-Jun-2004 Â (ONTARIO) (Canada) Â Canada vs. Belize 4:0 (1:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.5
30-May-2004 Â WREXHAM (Wales) Â Wales vs. Canada 1:0 (1:0) Â
18-Jan-2004 (Barbados) Â Barbados vs. Canada 0:1 (0:1) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
18-Nov-2003 Â DUBLIN (Republic of Ireland) Â Republic of Ireland vs. Canada 3:0 (1:0) Â
15-Nov-2003 Â TEPLICE (Czech Republic) Â Czech Republic vs. Canada 5:1 (1:0) Â
11-Oct-2003 Â TAMPERE (Finland) Â Finland vs. Canada 3:2 (3:0) Â
14-Jul-2003 Â FOXBORO/BOSTON (USA) Â Canada vs. Cuba 0:2 (0:1) Â
12-Jul-2003 Â FOXBORO (USA) Â Costa Rica vs. Canada 0:1 (0:0) 3 X 3 X 0.85 X 1.55
These points are multiplied by 0.3
= 318.75 + 318.75 + 127.5 + 1185.75 = 1950.75/10 = 195.075*0.3 = 58.52
TNT
10-Jul-2004 Â BANGKOK (Thailand) Â Thailand vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:2 (0:2) Â
20-Jun-2004 Â (Trinidad and Tobago) Â TNT vs. DR 4:0 (0:0) Â 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.5
13-Jun-2004 Â (Dominican Republic) Â DR vs. TNT 0:2 (0:0) 3 X 2.5 X 0.85 X 0.5
6-Jun-2004 Â PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago) Â TNT vs. Northern Ireland 0:3 (0:2) Â
30-May-2004 Â EDINBURGH (Scotland) Â Scotland vs. Trinidad and Tobago 4:1 (4:0) Â
23-May-2004 Â WEST BROMWICH (England) Â TNT vs. Iraq 2:0 (1:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 1.12
31-Mar-2004 Â CAIRO (Egypt) Â Egypt vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:1 (0:0) Â
2-Mar-2004 Â (Trinidad and Tobago) Â TNT vs. Guyana 1:0 (1:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.69
12-Feb-2004 Â HAMILTON (Bermuda) Â Bermuda vs. TNT 2:2 (1:1) 1 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
10-Feb-2004 Â HAMILTON (Bermuda) Â Bermuda vs. TNT 0:1 (0:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
19-Nov-2003 (TNT) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Cuba 2:1 (2:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 1.02
10-Sep-2003 Â MARRAKECH (Morocco) Â Morocco vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (1:0) Â
2-Aug-2003 Â (St. Kitts and Nevis) Â SKN vs. TNT 1:2 (0:2) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.64
31-Jul-2003 Â BASSETERRE (St. Kitts and Nevis) Â Haiti vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (0:0) Â
These matches are multiplied by 0.3
=318.75 + 318.75 + 285.6+ 175.95 + 42.5+127.5 + 260.1 + 163.2 = 1692.35/14*0.3 = 36.26
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Canada
1-Jun-2003 Â WOLFSBURG (Germany) Â Germany vs. Canada 4:1 (1:1) Â
29-Mar-2003 Â TALLINN (Estonia) Â Estonia vs. Canada 2:1 (0:0) Â
12-Feb-2003 Â TRIPOLIS (Libya) Â Libya vs. Canada 2:4 (1:2) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 1.21
18-Jan-2003 Â FORT LAUDERDALE (USA) Â USA vs. Canada 4:0 (3:0) Â
15-Oct-2002 Â EDINBURGH (Scotland) Â Scotland vs. Canada 3:1 (1:1)
These points are multiplied by 0.2
= 308.55/5 = 61.71*0.2 = 12.342
TNT
3-Jul-2003 (TNT) Â TNT vs. Venezuela 2:2 (0:1) 1 X 1 X 0.915 X 1.32
14-Jun-2003 Â PORT ELIZABETH (South Africa) Â South Africa vs. TNT 2:1 (1:1) Â
10-Jun-2003 Â (Botswana) Â Botswana vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:0 1 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.96
31-May-2003 Â (Kenya) Â Kenya vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:1 (1:1) 1 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.83
30-Apr-2003 Â SAN CRISTOBAL (Venezuela) Â Venezuela vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:0 (2:0) Â
25-Apr-2003 Â FORT-DE-FRANCE (Martinique) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Honduras 0:2 (0:0) Â
23-Apr-2003 Â FORT-DE-FRANCE (Martinique) Â Martinique vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:2 (0:2) Â
30-Mar-2003 Â (Trinidad and Tobago) Â Trinidad and Tobago vs. Cuba 1:3 (1:1) Â
28-Mar-2003 Â (TNT) Â Western Samoa vs. TNT 0:1 (0:0) Â 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.50
26-Mar-2003 Â (TNT) Â TNT vs. Antigua and Barbuda 2:0 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.54 Â
29-Jan-2003 Â (TNT) Â TNT vs. Finland 1:2 (1:0) Â
17-Nov-2002 Â (TNT) Â St. Lucia vs. TNT 1:0 (0:0) Â
15-Nov-2002 Â (TNT) Â TNT vs. St. Kitts and Nevis 2:0 (1:0) 3 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.64
28-Jul-2002 Â (St. Kitts and Nevis) Â St. Kitts and Nevis vs. TNT 2:1 (0:1) Â
27-Jul-2002 Â BASSETERRE (St. Kitts and Nevis) Â TNT vs. Chinese Taipei 0:1 (0:1) Â
25-Jul-2002 Â (St. Kitts and Nevis) Â TNT vs. Barbados 0:0 Â 1 X 1 X 0.85 X 0.5
These matches are multiplied by 0.2
120.78 + 81.6 + 70.55 + 127.5 + 137.7 + 163.2 + 42.5 = 743.83/16*0.2 = 9.298
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CAN 12.342 + 58.52 + 89.65 + 295.8 = 456.312 BUT Can 567
TNT 9.298 + 36.26 + 111.54 + 311.59 = 468.68 BUT TNT 487
Obviously my calculations are always going to be in trouble since i don't check the ranking of each team at the moment each match was played. Nevertheless Trinidad's actual and calculated toatals aren't that off. I have a huge disparity for Canada's though that I can't explain just that way. Anyone care to tackle it?
It would seem though that Canada's opponents that they've beaten have more of a tendency to be teams that have droppes dorribly in the rankings between the time they playe them and now. In particular the two victories over Cuba and Costa Rica in the gold Cup give the Canadains 40 more points than I calculated when I used the rankings at the date of the games to calculate those matches.
My question is if the old system needed overhauling so badly why are we still using the rankings from the system to calculate the new overhauled rankings  ???
hey midnight, - is there any process for normalizing the results? look at how many games t&t play compared to canada over the same time span - if it's just based on points than teams will be encouraged to play more games to boost their ranking. a side that plays 20 friendlies and wins 5 will have more points than a team that plays 5 games and wins 4. is it correct that losses do not factor into the ratings at all?
The 32 best teams in the world at the end of the day are those that qualify for the world cup, an teams should not be robbed of their braging rights when the opportunity for all is based on a zonal system that has a balance to produce 32 of the best teams in the world at that point in time. When Holland did not qualify for a former WC were we to make excuses for them or say you have 14 spots in your zone if you did not get in well, see you next WC, Greece won the euro cup but did not qualify, football is unpredictable, first-timers Austrailia got thru to the 16 , TNT which before our first game was billed as the laughing stock of this world cup, came out with respect despite a poor end result. May be the balance needs fine tuning give or take a team or two and increase the euro zone, but saying teams from one zone that did not qualify are better that teams that did qualify from another zone, is questionable because different teams peak at different times, an when a big name team does not have it's act together will result in not qualifying, so when you factor in all the ingredients of zones having more spots etc.. the WC produces the 32 best teams in the world for that time...
The 32 best teams in the world at the end of the day are those that qualify for the world cup, an teams should not be robbed of their braging rights when the opportunity for all is based on a zonal system that has a balance to produce 32 of the best teams in the world at that point in time. When Holland did not qualify for a former WC were we to make excuses for them or say you have 14 spots in your zone if you did not get in well, see you next WC, Greece won the euro cup but did not qualify, football is unpredictable, first-timers Austrailia got thru to the 16 , TNT which before our first game was billed as the laughing stock of this world cup, came out with respect despite a poor end result. May be the balance needs fine tuning give or take a team or two and increase the euro zone, but saying teams from one zone that did not qualify are better that teams that did qualify from another zone, is questionable because different teams peak at different times, an when a big name team does not have it's act together will result in not qualifying, so when you factor in all the ingredients of zones having more spots etc.. the WC produces the 32 best teams in the world for that time...
very well said, right now these teams are the best in the world, until the next 4 years when other teams qualify and show they are the bess at that given time period :beermug:
The 32 best teams in the world at the end of the day are those that qualify for the world cup, an teams should not be robbed of their braging rights when the opportunity for all is based on a zonal system that has a balance to produce 32 of the best teams in the world at that point in time. When Holland did not qualify for a former WC were we to make excuses for them or say you have 14 spots in your zone if you did not get in well, see you next WC, Greece won the euro cup but did not qualify, football is unpredictable, first-timers Austrailia got thru to the 16 , TNT which before our first game was billed as the laughing stock of this world cup, came out with respect despite a poor end result. May be the balance needs fine tuning give or take a team or two and increase the euro zone, but saying teams from one zone that did not qualify are better that teams that did qualify from another zone, is questionable because different teams peak at different times, an when a big name team does not have it's act together will result in not qualifying, so when you factor in all the ingredients of zones having more spots etc.. the WC produces the 32 best teams in the world for that time...
very well said, right now these teams are the best in the world, until the next 4 years when other teams qualify and show they are the bess at that given time period :beermug:
I do not believe I seeing this..... man posting that... and ah next man endorsing it??
That post is FANTASTIC RUBBISH (copyright real madness)
Not a coherent logical argument to be found....
The 32 best teams in the world at the end of the day are those that qualify for the world cup, an teams should not be robbed of their braging rights when the opportunity for all is based on a zonal system that has a balance to produce 32 of the best teams in the world at that point in time.
saying teams from one zone that did not qualify are better that teams that did qualify from another zone, is questionable because different teams peak at different times, an when a big name team does not have it's act together will result in not qualifying, so when you factor in all the ingredients of zones having more spots etc.. the WC produces the 32 best teams in the world  for that time...
10-Jun-2006Â DORTMUND (Germany)Â TNT vs. Sweden 0:0 1 X 4 X 0.925 X 1.78
685.6 + 144.57 + 258.075 + 675.75 + 225.25 + 1160.25 + 898.875 + 937.125 = 4985.495/16 = 311.59
Midknight, check your maths:10-Jun-2006Â DORTMUND (Germany)Â TNT vs. Sweden 0:0 1 X 4 X 0.925 X 1.78
685.6 + 144.57 + 258.075 + 675.75 + 225.25 + 1160.25 + 898.875 + 937.125 = 4985.495/16 = 311.59
1x4x0.925x1.78 = 6.586 * 100 = 658.6
i calling price waterhouse for the rest. ;D
5-1 shouldn't get same exact amount of points as 1-0...should be some small extra weight put on the scoreline since in reality the vast majority of times it indicates a gap betw the two teams. I suppose people who say the result is all that matter (win loss or draw) wud be happy.
Take a look at the best 16 teams in the world cup at this stage you still Ghana Aust Mex Arg Braz Ecua, then the best 8 teams in the world, then 4 - 2 and the number one winner Italy, it's reality so kicker give de Forum Fag sleeping next to you a good kick, he only dreaming bout berlin an world cup done....
Canada has 2 wins (Luxembourg, Austria) and a draw (USA) in their last 3 matches (all on the road).
Congrats on your hard fought 1-nil victory against the mighty Luxembourg, ranked 194 in the world  :applause:
Look at their record in WC qualifying last year:
Team MP W D L GF GA Pts
Portugal 12 9 3 0 35 5 30
Slovakia 12 6 5 1 24 8 23
Russia 12 6 5 1 23 12 23
Estonia 12 5 2 5 16 17 17
Latvia 12 4 3 5 18 21 15
Liechtenstein 12 2 2 8 13 23 8
Luxembourg 12 0 0 12 5 48 0
Take a look at the best 16 teams in the world cup at this stage you still Ghana Aust Mex Arg Braz Ecua, then the best 8 teams in the world, then 4 - 2 and the number one winner Italy, it's reality so kicker give de Forum Fag sleeping next to you a good kick, he only dreaming bout berlin an world cup done....
Take a look at the best 16 teams in the world cup at this stage you still Ghana Aust Mex Arg Braz Ecua, then the best 8 teams in the world, then 4 - 2 and the number one winner Italy, it's reality so kicker give de Forum Fag sleeping next to you a good kick, he only dreaming bout berlin an world cup done....
Take a look at the best 16 teams in the world cup at this stage you still Ghana Aust Mex Arg Braz Ecua, then the best 8 teams in the world, then 4 - 2 and the number one winner Italy, it's reality so kicker give de Forum Fag sleeping next to you a good kick, he only dreaming bout berlin an world cup done....
Dred, is this English?
This is so poorly constructed that it is actually incomprehensible.
What is a Forum Fag?
It's posts like these that are discouraging people from posting.
shame
ON DE BLOCK need to get off d block/crack and fast
i think i see what point odb is making.
alot of man making claims that cameroon is better than t&t. that a bunch of european sides that didn't make it are better than t&t. that teams that did not make it to germany are better than t&t. all this without the teams playing a match on the field.
at the end of the day, world cup qualification is a concrete achievement - not idle speculation which is what is passing for logical sound judgement in this thread so far.
world cup qualification is a standard for a team's ability and a test of which teams are "the best". it is a real and concrete thing.
but there are those that prefer their own judgement and the judgement of others over the results on the pitch. they use this to justify that t&t is not among the best. probably the same ppl will tell you that greece wasn't the best team in europe when they won the european championship.
the difference is between concrete achievements and opinion. everyone can follow their own standard.
i think i see what point odb is making.
alot of man making claims that cameroon is better than t&t. that a bunch of european sides that didn't make it are better than t&t. that teams that did not make it to germany are better than t&t. all this without the teams playing a match on the field.
at the end of the day, world cup qualification is a concrete achievement - not idle speculation which is what is passing for logical sound judgement in this thread so far.
world cup qualification is a standard for a team's ability and a test of which teams are "the best". it is a real and concrete thing.
but there are those that prefer their own judgement and the judgement of others over the results on the pitch. they use this to justify that t&t is not among the best. probably the same ppl will tell you that greece wasn't the best team in europe when they won the european championship.
the difference is between concrete achievements and opinion. everyone can follow their own standard.
"I have never seen India play Brazil but I will tell you that Brazil is a better team."
Not that side Perreira put out against France.
India woulda run rings around dat side :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yes we lost to Wales and Slovania but what was the significance of those games, we got 3 from the Checz as far as I cud remember those were all meaningless games.the only thing concrete about that is those games meant absolutely nothing,why don't you talk about what we  did in our first real competive game or is that not concrete enough ?
This thread is real kicks...kicker said it in very simple terms....The WC tournament is contested by the best teams in each region.
I would like to add that some regions are stronger than others therefore due to a limit on the number of spots available to each region there are very good teams that do not qualify for the WC. Â A few examples are Uruguay, Nigeria, Cameroon, Denmark,Greece.
So the WC does not include the best 32 teams in the world. Â Saying it is the best 32 teams in the world at that time is FANTASTIC RUBBISH. TnT finished 27th in the WC, does that mean we are the 27th best team in the world?
Yes we lost to Wales and Slovania but what was the significance of those games, we got 3 from the Checz as far as I cud remember those were all meaningless games.the only thing concrete about that is those games meant absolutely nothing,why don't you talk about what we  did in our first real competive game or is that not concrete enough ?
So let me guess because we draw Sweden in our 'first real competetive game' we should be equal to them in the ranking? But wait, we loss 2-0 to Paraguay in our 'third real competetive game' so they should be ranked ahead of us and also ahead of Sweden. But wait, Sweden draw with England, who beat Paraguay so how come... ???
Hoss give it a rest...
Real yuh right is not the best teams playing in the WC I agree 100% But if yuh have a competition that include the whole world and after the qualififying rounds 32 teams are left standing,what would you call those 32 in relation to the competion.
Yes we lost to Wales and Slovania but what was the significance of those games, we got 3 from the Checz as far as I cud remember those were all meaningless games.the only thing concrete about that is those games meant absolutely nothing,why don't you talk about what we  did in our first real competive game or is that not concrete enough ?
So let me guess because we draw Sweden in our 'first real competetive game' we should be equal to them in the ranking? But wait, we loss 2-0 to Paraguay in our 'third real competetive game' so they should be ranked ahead of us and also ahead of Sweden. But wait, Sweden draw with England, who beat Paraguay so how come... ???
Hoss give it a rest...
Take win boy,if you hear me say we should be equal to Sweden in de rankins den it eh make sense replying to you.
Seeing that it have ppl that want to down play the teams in the WC as not the best in de world, then why have qualifications to get in ? why fifa just doh pick the top 32 teams based on the fifa world rankings, becuz as some ah all put it, is not the best teams playing in the WC.
If yuh fail to qualify for ah WC then you were not good or better than the teams that did,in or outta of yuh region.Im not saying TnT are better than the teams that did not qualify but TnT did what they had to do to get to the WC don't try and dilute that achievement becuz other higher ranked teams fail to do what we did.
Seeing that it have ppl that want to down play the teams in the WC as not the best in de world, then why have qualifications to get in ? why fifa just doh pick the top 32 teams based on the fifa world rankings, becuz as some ah all put it, is not the best teams playing in the WC.
If yuh fail to qualify for ah WC then you were not good or better than the teams that did,in or outta of yuh region.Im not saying TnT are better than the teams that did not qualify but TnT did what they had to do to get to the WC don't try and dilute that achievement becuz other higher ranked teams fail to do what we did.
That's the entire problem with this thread..people looking at it like it's a belittling of T&T's achievement and getting defensive......
That's not the point.
The point is that as much as FIFA would love the World Cup to be a competition amongst the Worlds best 32 teams...at this point in time with the disparity in regions, it's just not the case.
The winner of the World Cup can claim to be the best in the World, because he competed against the best teams FROM EACH REGION and won......It's actually a pretty strong claim that is difficult to argue against
Qualifying teams could boast of being in the top 32 in the World if they wish....In theory fine, but as a claim it's a little more difficult to back up.........(please don't ask the difference between the two claims)......because of glaring imperfections in the qualification system.
Final thoughts
1. Bahrain was a whisper away from Qualifying for the World Cup 2006. Is Bahrain honestly anything close to being a top 32 team in the World ?
2. Had CONCACAF not had the extra half spot, T&T would not have made it to the World Cup. Are we saying that the difference between being in the top 32 teams in the World and not being in the top 32, is a FIFA ruling ?......If yes, then we should not have a damn word to say against the FIFA rankings......
Seeing that it have ppl that want to down play the teams in the WC as not the best in de world, then why have qualifications to get in ? why fifa just doh pick the top 32 teams based on the fifa world rankings, becuz as some ah all put it, is not the best teams playing in the WC.
If yuh fail to qualify for ah WC then you were not good or better than the teams that did,in or outta of yuh region.Im not saying TnT are better than the teams that did not qualify but TnT did what they had to do to get to the WC don't try and dilute that achievement becuz other higher ranked teams fail to do what we did.
That's the entire problem with this thread..people looking at it like it's a belittling of T&T's achievement and getting defensive......
That's not the point.
The point is that as much as FIFA would love the World Cup to be a competition amongst the Worlds best 32 teams...at this point in time with the disparity in regions, it's just not the case.
The winner of the World Cup can claim to be the best in the World, because he competed against the best teams FROM EACH REGION and won......It's actually a pretty strong claim that is difficult to argue against
Qualifying teams could boast of being in the top 32 in the World if they wish....In theory fine, but as a claim it's a little more difficult to back up.........(please don't ask the difference between the two claims)......because of glaring imperfections in the qualification system.
Final thoughts
1. Bahrain was a whisper away from Qualifying for the World Cup 2006. Is Bahrain honestly anything close to being a top 32 team in the World ?
2. Had CONCACAF not had the extra half spot, T&T would not have made it to the World Cup. Are we saying that the difference between being in the top 32 teams in the World and not being in the top 32, is a FIFA ruling ?......If yes, then we should not have a damn word to say against the FIFA rankings......
i think i see what point odb is making.
alot of man making claims that cameroon is better than t&t. that a bunch of european sides that didn't make it are better than t&t. that teams that did not make it to germany are better than t&t. all this without the teams playing a match on the field.
at the end of the day, world cup qualification is a concrete achievement - not idle speculation which is what is passing for logical sound judgement in this thread so far.
world cup qualification is a standard for a team's ability and a test of which teams are "the best". it is a real and concrete thing.
but there are those that prefer their own judgement and the judgement of others over the results on the pitch. they use this to justify that t&t is not among the best. probably the same ppl will tell you that greece wasn't the best team in europe when they won the european championship.
the difference is between concrete achievements and opinion. everyone can follow their own standard.
really? hmmm. we lost to Wales and Slovenia on the eve of the World Cup..that is something very concrete. We came up against one shit side and one OK side and lost both times. Pure facts..you cannot dispute that...I guess they deserve to be considered better than us. They 'proved' their superiority on the field...but wait...they didn't qualify for the world cup. Sorry, we are better than them because a team that does not qualify for the WC cannot be better than a team that has...right? Real results must mean nothing.
We all watch a lot of football and know much better than this...I have never seen India play Brazil but I will tell you that Brazil is a better team. My second point is, we all watch enough football to make educated judgements even if two teams have not met. It is not idle speculation. And noone is trying to belittle T&T's achievement.....that is a sad attempt to try and assign shame to make a point in an argument. Make your point without trying to infer self-loathing. That is just lame
i think i see what point odb is making.
alot of man making claims that cameroon is better than t&t. that a bunch of european sides that didn't make it are better than t&t. that teams that did not make it to germany are better than t&t. all this without the teams playing a match on the field.
at the end of the day, world cup qualification is a concrete achievement - not idle speculation which is what is passing for logical sound judgement in this thread so far.
world cup qualification is a standard for a team's ability and a test of which teams are "the best". it is a real and concrete thing.
but there are those that prefer their own judgement and the judgement of others over the results on the pitch. they use this to justify that t&t is not among the best. probably the same ppl will tell you that greece wasn't the best team in europe when they won the european championship.
the difference is between concrete achievements and opinion. everyone can follow their own standard.
Very weak point.
T&T finishing behind Mexico, US & Costa Rica vs Ireland finishing behind France, Switzerland & Israel in their qualifying is not a concrete measure of T&T being better than Ireland.........or a better example Romania finishing beind CZEC & Holland.
If Greece is the best team in Europe, why didn't they qualify for W.C. ?
How did Slovenia & Wales beat us..and they didn't make it to the World Cup ? What is more concrete ?
How did Morocco beat the U.S......and not make it to the World Cup ? What is more concrete ?
W.C. qualification is monumental, but it's not a concrete measure of the 32 best teams in the World.....AND THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE FIGHTING THAT DOWN IS BECAUSE T&T QUALIFIED FOR THE WORLD CUP THIS YEAR-FULL STOP...ADMIT IT AND DONE THIS TALK FOR GOOD
W.C. is a tournament contested by the best teams in each region.....it's that simple.
i think i see what point odb is making.
alot of man making claims that cameroon is better than t&t. that a bunch of european sides that didn't make it are better than t&t. that teams that did not make it to germany are better than t&t. all this without the teams playing a match on the field.
at the end of the day, world cup qualification is a concrete achievement - not idle speculation which is what is passing for logical sound judgement in this thread so far.
world cup qualification is a standard for a team's ability and a test of which teams are "the best". it is a real and concrete thing.
but there are those that prefer their own judgement and the judgement of others over the results on the pitch. they use this to justify that t&t is not among the best. probably the same ppl will tell you that greece wasn't the best team in europe when they won the european championship.
the difference is between concrete achievements and opinion. everyone can follow their own standard.
really? hmmm. we lost to Wales and Slovenia on the eve of the World Cup..that is something very concrete. We came up against one shit side and one OK side and lost both times. Pure facts..you cannot dispute that...I guess they deserve to be considered better than us. They 'proved' their superiority on the field...but wait...they didn't qualify for the world cup. Sorry, we are better than them because a team that does not qualify for the WC cannot be better than a team that has...right? Real results must mean nothing.
We all watch a lot of football and know much better than this...I have never seen India play Brazil but I will tell you that Brazil is a better team. My second point is, we all watch enough football to make educated judgements even if two teams have not met. It is not idle speculation. And noone is trying to belittle T&T's achievement.....that is a sad attempt to try and assign shame to make a point in an argument. Make your point without trying to infer self-loathing. That is just lame
filho, back up the train. why were we playing wales and slovenia? because we had already qualified for wc2006.
the point i'm trying to make is that tournaments are prizes by which one could judge the greatness of a team. the measure of "best" is being bandied about alot but i can tell by the way that it is used that it involves some speculative judgement.
What wrong with allyuh!!??
Allyuh does just have some knee jerk reaction without even doin ah ounce of research... or trying to understand....
I saying this 2 months now.... that we supposed to drop ever since dey annonunce de new ranking procedure.... Midknight also been saying de same ting.....
This is about right..... It certainly better than de old rankings.......... Allyuh get over it
First of all I think that the 32 teams who made it to the world cup should be ranked in that order and then everyone else.
get serious .... That's something a primary school student would say....
You and I know the World Cup is not about the 32 best teams in the World....I can't believe this hour of the day, people still talking that kinda nonsense.
I hear yuh kicker,and I agree wid you and Real M, it have better teams out there than the final 32. That being said ......just some food for thought ... say Mexico won the WC this year, would you consider them the best team in the world ? ..even though they came out of the weakest if not one of the weakest regions to qualify ?
.......now replace Mexico with TnTÂ ...................just ah thought !!
The winner of the World Cup can claim to be the best in the World, because he competed against the best teams FROM EACH REGION and won......It's actually a pretty strong claim that is difficult to argue against
world cup qualification is a standard for a team's ability and a test of which teams are "the best". it is a real and concrete thing.
Very weak point.
T&T finishing behind Mexico, US & Costa Rica  vs Ireland finishing behind France, Switzerland & Israel in their qualifying is not a concrete measure of T&T being better than Ireland.........or a better example Romania finishing beind CZEC & Holland.
well here you are going back into the hypothetical instead of staying in reality. did we have to play ireland for a spot in the world cup? would we ever have to play ireland to get to the world cup? ireland is in a different conference. you are getting tied up trying to sort out who's better for fixtures that don't even exist!
again, returning to my point, some people prefer to use world cup qualification as the standard for the quality of a side. you are free to stick to your imaginary pairings.
If Greece is the best team in Europe, why didn't they qualify for W.C. ?
should have slipped in the phrase "in 2004".
How did Slovenia & Wales beat us..and they didn't make it to the World Cup ? What is more concrete ?
How did Morocco beat the U.S......and not make it to the World Cup ? What is more concrete ?
??? what, teams should play their best games during the friendlies but when it's world cup qualifiers they can fete? morocco, slovenia and wales ... all after qualification was obtained. so obvious - why do i have to point this out?
again, some choose to look at world cup qualification as the standard for excellence. ask someone taking esl what "standard" means if you are stuck.
Take a look at the best 16 teams in the world cup at this stage you still Ghana Aust Mex Arg Braz Ecua, then the best 8 teams in the world, then 4 - 2 and the number one winner Italy, it's reality so kicker give de Forum Fag sleeping next to you a good kick, he only dreaming bout berlin an world cup done....
Dred, is this English?
This is so poorly constructed that it is actually incomprehensible.
What is a Forum Fag?
It's posts like these that are discouraging people from posting.
shame
ON DE BLOCK need to get off d block/crack and fast
Take a look at the best 16 teams in the world cup at this stage you still Ghana Aust Mex Arg Braz Ecua, then the best 8 teams in the world, then 4 - 2 and the number one winner Italy, it's reality so kicker give de Forum Fag sleeping next to you a good kick, he only dreaming bout berlin an world cup done....
Dred, is this English?
This is so poorly constructed that it is actually incomprehensible.
What is a Forum Fag?
It's posts like these that are discouraging people from posting.
shame
ON DE BLOCK need to get off d block/crack and fast
Marcos and Filho I was responding to kicker and FF. FF in his post said I was talking 'fantastic rubbish' and in true trini style not knowing what FF stood for I gave it my own meaning, kicker got offended an truly did not understand that I put in some ole talk at the end of that post jus to spice it up, an this leads me to say waggonist will get lost when come to true trini ole talk.
and kicker on slovenia beating TNT, france beating china at the expense of losing a key player having broken his leg, and mexico sending a 'b' team to TNT after they qualify, all this sez is Benhakker knew better..
and my post was about if we disagree that the 32 teams are not the best in the world for that cup, then can we agree on 16 of the best teams, if not 16 then may be 8 of the best teams etc.. etc... when we come down to the fact of let the record show, it will show Lara's record, Ato's record, etc ... and TNT record in the 2006 fifa world cup.
Take a look at the best 16 teams in the world cup at this stage you still Ghana Aust Mex Arg Braz Ecua, then the best 8 teams in the world, then 4 - 2 and the number one winner Italy, it's reality so kicker give de Forum Fag sleeping next to you a good kick, he only dreaming bout berlin an world cup done....
Dred, is this English?
This is so poorly constructed that it is actually incomprehensible.
What is a Forum Fag?
It's posts like these that are discouraging people from posting.
shame
ON DE BLOCK need to get off d block/crack and fast
Marcos and Filho I was responding to kicker and FF. FF in his post said I was talking 'fantastic rubbish' and in true trini style not knowing what FF stood for I gave it my own meaning, kicker got offended an truly did not understand that I put in some ole talk at the end of that post jus to spice it up, an this leads me to say waggonist will get lost when come to true trini ole talk.
and kicker on slovenia beating TNT, france beating china at the expense of losing a key player having broken his leg, and mexico sending a 'b' team to TNT after they qualify, all this sez is Benhakker knew better..
and my post was about if we disagree that the 32 teams are not the best in the world for that cup, then can we agree on 16 of the best teams, if not 16 then may be 8 of the best teams etc.. etc... when we come down to the fact of let the record show, it will show Lara's record, Ato's record, etc ... and TNT record in the 2006 fifa world cup.
So now I'm a waggonist ? ...wateva breds enjoy yuhself. I wasn't offended. I just doh resort to callin' people fags just because we disagree. That's not even typical Trini ole talk & picong...so I eh know what you talkin' about.
And by your logic, "Beenie knew better".....you're saying we were truly better than Slovenia but stayed in second gear ? you could stay there and feel so. I watched the game and disagree. We were outplayed, not just physically but in every department of the game.
I agree with you though that as you narrow down the World Cup field to the top 16,8,4 etc....you're likely get a better impression of the "better" teams in the World.....barring the suprise teams that hit a short period of form, or get "lucky" etc.....
Take a look at the best 16 teams in the world cup at this stage you still Ghana Aust Mex Arg Braz Ecua, then the best 8 teams in the world, then 4 - 2 and the number one winner Italy, it's reality so kicker give de Forum Fag sleeping next to you a good kick, he only dreaming bout berlin an world cup done....
Dred, is this English?
This is so poorly constructed that it is actually incomprehensible.
What is a Forum Fag?
It's posts like these that are discouraging people from posting.
shame
ON DE BLOCK need to get off d block/crack and fast
Marcos and Filho I was responding to kicker and FF. FF in his post said I was talking 'fantastic rubbish' and in true trini style not knowing what FF stood for I gave it my own meaning, kicker got offended an truly did not understand that I put in some ole talk at the end of that post jus to spice it up, an this leads me to say waggonist will get lost when come to true trini ole talk.
and kicker on slovenia beating TNT, france beating china at the expense of losing a key player having broken his leg, and mexico sending a 'b' team to TNT after they qualify, all this sez is Benhakker knew better..
and my post was about if we disagree that the 32 teams are not the best in the world for that cup, then can we agree on 16 of the best teams, if not 16 then may be 8 of the best teams etc.. etc... when we come down to the fact of let the record show, it will show Lara's record, Ato's record, etc ... and TNT record in the 2006 fifa world cup.
So now I'm a waggonist ? ...wateva breds enjoy yuhself. I wasn't offended. I just doh resort to callin' people fags just because we disagree. That's not even typical Trini ole talk & picong...so I eh know what you talkin' about.
And by your logic, "Beenie knew better".....you're saying we were truly better than Slovenia but stayed in second gear ? you could stay there and feel so. I watched the game and disagree. We were outplayed, not just physically but in every department of the game.
I agree with you though that as you narrow down the World Cup field to the top 16,8,4 etc....you're likely get a better impression of the "better" teams in the World.....barring the suprise teams that hit a short period of form, or get "lucky" etc.....
Kicker the waggonist ting was not directed at you but if it fall in yuh garden, then whatever, an in trini we really don't use de word fag, but on de block I grew up on the word 'buller' was used quite loosely around friends poking fun at one another,
As far as staying in 2nd gear, I would say non of the warm up games was our A game ever seen, it was a game of hide an seek up to when we got to sweden, the up hill climb really begins all over again, an what is our A game really, under Bennie is John up front with nine defenders, I hoping our attacking style can come to front in the near future....
wow looks like a big correction for canada, panama, and honduras.
Midknight, I think FIFA noticed what you noticed last month. :)
still a bunch ah shit.
still a bunch ah shit.
tru dat!
Someone explain to me who de hell Guinea is and how de hell dey could be 22nd in the world. They doh even know what the world cup is.:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Someone explain to me who de hell Guinea is and how de hell dey could be 22nd in the world. They doh even know what the world cup is.:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
chking fifa website there last match was in the african nation's cup in february where they lost to senegal after the grp stage...................dis maths en adding up at all ;D
Someone explain to me who de hell Guinea is and how de hell dey could be 22nd in the world. They doh even know what the world cup is.
Someone explain to me who de hell Guinea is and how de hell dey could be 22nd in the world. They doh even know what the world cup is.
Someone explain to me who de hell Guinea is and how de hell dey could be 22nd in the world. They doh even know what the world cup is.
The system is based on points earned from matches that a team has played during a certain period of time. Therefore, the more active a national team is, the higher its rank would likely be. So, if TnT lures Jamaica to POS and beat the boyz every saturday night, the warriors would be number 1 team in the world at the end of the year! (that is if the boyz agree to cooperate ;D)
still a bunch ah shit.
Anybody want to explain how Guatemala are ranked ahead of us?
Based on what should Haiti be ranked higher. Just asking a question here, other than the youth teams recent success, I am unaware of what the senior team has done, though I dont doubt they are probably just as formidable.
Based on what should Haiti be ranked higher. Just asking a question here, other than the youth teams recent success, I am unaware of what the senior team has done, though I dont doubt they are probably just as formidable.
My comments are based on my opinion rather than on hard facts! I simply extrapolated the performances of their youth team to what I would expect of their senior team. Just running meh mouth to create a discussion but maybe I shoulda just keep meh damn self quiet! ;D
Alyuh men does just like to raise ppl pressure. Any time ppl talk about rankings you does understand all those who just content to sit down and bump they gum to complain without actually understanding what they talking about.
When a man actually sit down and criticise the SYSTEM that produce the rankings, I have respect for him. All those who does just watch the final results and say dat is shit...well whatever.
Haiti might deserve a better ranking, but the fact is that 118 is the one they get under the system with the results thay had in the last 4 years. If you right about them deserving better, you should see a notable improvement in the next 6T months or so.
TNT ranking in august had already included the Japan match. So men talking about us losing a match and going up is wrong. We actually didn't play anything in between the August rankings and the September ones.
How we go up? Well I refuse to do the math for alyuh lazy behinds, but it would seem that a couple of other teams above us fall hard, notably guatemala, uzbekistan, wales and austria. How we gain more point? well it could be that some real shit results from the august september period get devalue each year.
For the last time Inform yourself before you criticise.
Peace out.
Alyuh men does just like to raise ppl pressure. Any time ppl talk about rankings you does understand all those who just content to sit down and bump they gum to complain without actually understanding what they talking about.
When a man actually sit down and criticise the SYSTEM that produce the rankings, I have respect for him. All those who does just watch the final results and say dat is shit...well whatever.
Haiti might deserve a better ranking, but the fact is that 118 is the one they get under the system with the results thay had in the last 4 years. If you right about them deserving better, you should see a notable improvement in the next 6T months or so.
TNT ranking in august had already included the Japan match. So men talking about us losing a match and going up is wrong. We actually didn't play anything in between the August rankings and the September ones.
How we go up? Well I refuse to do the math for alyuh lazy behinds, but it would seem that a couple of other teams above us fall hard, notably guatemala, uzbekistan, wales and austria. How we gain more point? well it could be that some real shit results from the august september period get devalue each year.
For the last time Inform yourself before you criticise.
Peace out.
I don't understand how england reach fourth....
T&T play one game since the WC lost and went up 5 points. Ok I will keep ::)
T&T play one game since the WC lost and went up 5 points. Ok I will keep ::)
It's not so much the change in rank (because other teams above could have done worse and slipped by us), but the increase in points that's a mystery. We went from 490 in Aug to 507 in Sep. A loss against Japan = +17 points? (Japan lost 16 points since August)
Brasil remained highest ranked but lost 75 points since Aug.
T&T play one game since the WC lost and went up 5 points. Ok I will keep ::)A loss against Japan = +17 points? (Japan lost 16 points since August)
The gain in points is probably due to the re-balancing of the weightings that take place every month... 1 month falls off from 4 years ago.... and the weighting is adjusted for all the months in each of the most recent 4 years
The gain in points is probably due to the re-balancing of the weightings that take place every month... 1 month falls off from 4 years ago.... and the weighting is adjusted for all the months in each of the most recent 4 yearsyeah, but if we eh gain any points in the last month, the total shouldn't go up. best case scenario is that the month that leaving the standings is another month we gain no points in.
It's not as if any of the months in the middle are increasing in weight, at most they are staying the same, with a few actually decreasing in weight.
unless of course, they actually changing the point value of previous months before applying the weights
TNT (13 sep 2005 - 13 sep 2006)
(july) 658.6 + 144.57 + 258.075 + 675.75 + 225.25 + 1160.25 + 898.875 + 937.125 = 4985.495/16 = 308.03
(september) 658.6 + 144.57 + 258.075 + 675.75 + 225.25 + 1160.25 + 898.875 = 4021.37/13 = 309.33
TNT (13 sep 2004 - 13 sep 2005)
These matches are multiplied by 0.5
(july) 359.565+413.1+898.875+127.5+127.5+329.375+127.5+196.35+196.35+252.525+252.525+181.75 + 127.5+ 127.5 + 127.5 + 127.5 + 127.5 + 452.625 + 408 + 408 + 452.625 + 122.4 = 5944.065/33 = 180.123*0.5 = 90.061
(september)
937.125 + 359.565+413.1+898.875+127.5+127.5+329.375+127.5+196.35+196.35+252.525+252.525+181.75 + 127.5+ 127.5 + 127.5 + 127.5 + 127.5 + 452.625 + 408 = 5898.165/32*0.5 = 92.158
TNT (13 sep 2003 - 13 sep 2004)
These matches are multiplied by 0.3
(july) 318.75 + 318.75 + 285.6+ 175.95 + 42.5+127.5 + 260.1 + 163.2 = 1692.35/14*0.3 = 36.26
(september) 408 + 452.625 + 122.4 + 318.75 + 318.75 + 285.6+ 175.95 + 42.5+127.5 + 260.1 = 2512.175/16*0.3 = 47.103
TNT (13 sep 2002- 13 sep 2003)
These matches are multiplied by 0.2
(july) 120.78 + 81.6 + 70.55 + 127.5 + 137.7 + 408 + 42.5 = 988.63/16*0.2 = 12.357
(september) 1109.33/16*0.2 = 13.86
T&T play one game since the WC lost and went up 5 points. Ok I will keep ::)
It's not so much the change in rank (because other teams above could have done worse and slipped by us), but the increase in points that's a mystery. We went from 490 in Aug to 507 in Sep. A loss against Japan = +17 points? (Japan lost 16 points since August)
Brasil remained highest ranked but lost 75 points since Aug.
Ent 80 is the cutoff point for the British home office to grant work permits?
I guess it better if we play all the Digicell and WC qualifiers then.
jamaica eh loss to st vincent?!?
these ranksings r the worst...
brazil still on top and they is sh*t right now
Jamaica went up because of the 2 wins they had in competitive games.
jamaica eh loss to st vincent?!?
these ranksings r the worst...
brazil still on top and they is sh*t right now
St. vincent moved up 44 places as a result. Recall also that Jamaica ticked off Canada, who was ranked significantly higher than us.
I agree, these rankings cause more confusion than anything else. The way this thing looking, it seems as if a team can move from 100th in teh world to first place in less than 2 months.
Jamaica went up because of the 2 wins they had in competitive games.
yes they beat canada and who else?
Jamaica went up because of the 2 wins they had in competitive games.
yes they beat canada and who else?
Haiti, St. Somebody
Is a 2-1 loss really a cut-arse.Jamaica went up because of the 2 wins they had in competitive games.
yes they beat canada and who else?
Haiti, St. Somebody
yes and st vincent cut they arse and they move up ....plus the get 4-1 from ghana and 6 from england. I guess we need to lorse to st vincent to move up also
Any way austria is ranked 74 so if we lorse to them well well we may slipp
ok so Jamaica lost to St.Vincent at home 2-1... we beat them 5-0 at home and St.Vincent is only 5 places behind us while JAMAICA... is 57th!!
THEY WENT UP 20 POINTS WHILE WE WENT BACK 24!!
HOW THE f**k DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE!!
All this angst about the rankings. The formula is clear, it's published online for anyone to see and calculate themselves. ( http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/rank/procedures/0,2540,3,00.html)
So if you still have to ask questions like:ok so Jamaica lost to St.Vincent at home 2-1... we beat them 5-0 at home and St.Vincent is only 5 places behind us while JAMAICA... is 57th!!
THEY WENT UP 20 POINTS WHILE WE WENT BACK 24!!
HOW THE f**k DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE!!
Perhaps some remedial reading is in order?
Allyuh relax nah.
I said before that these rankings are very volatile and it turning out to be true.
Plenty movement in short spaces of time.
After the Digicel series I expect we will move up some and JA will move down being out of competition.
When Gold Cup comes around is more incentive to get past the first round.
It would be nice to see the behind the scenes numbers so countries can predict when they might move up or down based on past results being weighted less. I sure we could do it ourselves and have a sense of what might happen.
ok so Jamaica lost to St.Vincent at home 2-1... we beat them 5-0 at home and St.Vincent is only 5 places behind us while JAMAICA... is 57th!!
THEY WENT UP 20 POINTS WHILE WE WENT BACK 24!!
HOW THE f**k DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE!!
Ent 80 is the cutoff point for the British home office to grant work permits?
I guess it better if we play all the Digicell and WC qualifiers then.
Ent 80 is the cutoff point for the British home office to grant work permits?
I guess it better if we play all the Digicell and WC qualifiers then.
I thought it was 75!
Ok we need to form some kinda cup between us and Jamaica. Invite some other team. Cut both team a$$ and hopefully that will be good cause it have no way the difference between Trini and Jamica is 20 something teams.
wat austria ranked??
these is d worst rankings ever
oh well
How is it that Panama is ranked higher than us and we just beat them?
Ent 80 is the cutoff point for the British home office to grant work permits?
I guess it better if we play all the Digicell and WC qualifiers then.
I thought it was 75!
Ok we need to form some kinda cup between us and Jamaica. Invite some other team. Cut both team a$$ and hopefully that will be good cause it have no way the difference between Trini and Jamica is 20 something teams.
MODIFIED:
On a serious note, playing Austria not going to help the rankings. We need to play teams in the 40's and up. I was now looking at the rankings and the top 40 actually look bout correct.
We badly need to play and beat some high class teams do you all see that we dragged ourselves in a hole by playing lowly ranked teams!!!!!!!!Compared to Jamaica T&T has not done well against high-class teams or those ranked a little above them. All the teams that T&T have beaten since the start of 2006 is ranked below them.
ok so Jamaica lost to St.Vincent at home 2-1... we beat them 5-0 at home and St.Vincent is only 5 places behind us while JAMAICA... is 57th!!
THEY WENT UP 20 POINTS WHILE WE WENT BACK 24!!
HOW THE f**k DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE!!
you guys need to stop focusing primarily on your position relative to Jamaica. If you look at the grand scheme of things, you have moved from a position of 4th in CONCACAF to about 9th or tenth within a month. Its not about Jamaica vs St. vincent or St. vincent vs T&T, its more about what the other teams in the region have been doing. The two teams you played and beat recently were St. Vincent and Panama, both of those teams were ranked below you at the outset. St. Vincent jumped all of 44th places by virtue of them beating Jamaica, who was well ahead of them in teh rankings last month.
So tell your coach that instead of chickening out and cancelling games agaianst the likes of Mexico and Columbia, these are the teams he should be targeting for future games - teams ranked higher than your current ranking.
It appears the new ranking system compensates handsomely the team that beat a higher ranked team...while at the same time takes little away from the higher ranked team who loses to the a lower ranked one. Bottomn line is try to play the teams ranked above you.
We badly need to play and beat some high class teams do you all see that we dragged ourselves in a hole by playing lowly ranked teams!!!!!!!!Compared to Jamaica T&T has not done well against high-class teams or those ranked a little above them. All the teams that T&T have beaten since the start of 2006 is ranked below them.
Jamaica on the other hand have consistently beaten and been beaten by teams ranked above them.
We badly need to play and beat some high class teams do you all see that we dragged ourselves in a hole by playing lowly ranked teams!!!!!!!!Compared to Jamaica T&T has not done well against high-class teams or those ranked a little above them. All the teams that T&T have beaten since the start of 2006 is ranked below them.
Jamaica on the other hand have consistently beaten and been beaten by teams ranked above them.
name the teams jamaica has consistently beaten above them?
ok so Jamaica lost to St.Vincent at home 2-1... we beat them 5-0 at home and St.Vincent is only 5 places behind us while JAMAICA... is 57th!!
THEY WENT UP 20 POINTS WHILE WE WENT BACK 24!!
HOW THE f**k DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE!!
you guys need to stop focusing primarily on your position relative to Jamaica. If you look at the grand scheme of things, you have moved from a position of 4th in CONCACAF to about 9th or tenth within a month. Its not about Jamaica vs St. vincent or St. vincent vs T&T, its more about what the other teams in the region have been doing. The two teams you played and beat recently were St. Vincent and Panama, both of those teams were ranked below you at the outset. St. Vincent jumped all of 44th places by virtue of them beating Jamaica, who was well ahead of them in teh rankings last month.
So tell your coach that instead of chickening out and cancelling games agaianst the likes of Mexico and Columbia, these are the teams he should be targeting for future games - teams ranked higher than your current ranking.
It appears the new ranking system compensates handsomely the team that beat a higher ranked team...while at the same time takes little away from the higher ranked team who loses to the a lower ranked one. Bottomn line is try to play the teams ranked above you.
Jamaica on the other hand have consistently beaten and been beaten by teams ranked above them.
but your coach is a chicken, he cancelled games vs Mexico and Columbia.
We badly need to play and beat some high class teams do you all see that we dragged ourselves in a hole by playing lowly ranked teams!!!!!!!!
these rankings reflect the last 4 years and i dont even think they include the last two friendlies
Yes these are the rankings for games played till september.
New ranking for Bafana
IT might be little more than crumbs for comfort to be designated 65th in the world – but for Bafana Bafana the new rankings announced by Fifa yesterday had the effect of removing a monkey from their backs.
It ended an alarming downward spiral in which South Africa’s rating during the past two seasons plummeted from the mid 30s to an alarming 76th in September.
Bafana’s commendable 1-0 victory in the away game against Zambia earlier in the month had the effect of halting the slide, as well as reviving South Africa’s prospects of qualifying for the 2008 African Nations Cup finals.
It has also provided an encouraging platform from which former Brazil World Cup coach Carlos Alberto Parreira can begin his tenure as Bafana coach early next year.
Bafana have also improved their African ranking to 15th – sandwiched, as it were, between Burkina Faso and the DRC, but a considerable distance behind the continent’s top-ranked Nigeria (11th in the world) and second-placed Cameroon (12th in the world) ...
Scotland soar up world rankings
ANGUS WRIGHT
TWO years ago the national team was at its lowest ebb. A home defeat by Norway followed by failure to win in Moldova signalled the end of the Berti Vogts era and the combination of results sent Scotland plummeting to an all-time low of 88th in the world rankings.
Yesterday, statistical evidence of the revival brought about by his successor Walter Smith was as startling as it was welcome.
Scotland are up to 25th place in the official FIFA table, a remarkable rise of 63 places since that record low was posted in March 2005, shortly before Smith's first match in charge.
If the Moldovan saga was the nadir, the victory over France in European Championship qualifying earlier this month was the high point so far of the post-Berti era.
Smith's team have moved up nine places in the table since last month after Gary Caldwell scored the only goal of the game at Hampden Park on 7 October.
The win gave the Scots their third successive win in the group stages after beating the Faroe Islands and Lithuania in September. Although a 2-0 reverse by Ukraine in Kiev four days after the France win ended their 100 per cent record, the progress up the rankings has continued.
Under Vogts Scotland fell below the likes of Thailand, Qatar and Guatemala in the FIFA rankings. They are now placed above World Cup qualifiers Poland, Ecuador, Costa Rica, Paraguay, Trinidad & Tobago, Serbia, Iran, Angola, Japan, Australia, Togo, South Korea, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia and, most remarkably of all, the United States. :)
Smith's side are four places above the Americans who are 29th, and yet the US were rated the fourth best team in the world as recently as April.
Scotland are now closing in on their highest ever ranking of 20th place, which was last reached in May 2001 when Craig Brown was manager.
Northern Ireland have also made great strides in the FIFA table, moving into the top 50 for the first time in more than ten years. Impressive victories over Spain and Latvia, plus a draw away to Denmark, in Euro 2008 qualifying have lifted Lawrie Sanchez's side to 45th.
After rising 13 places since September's rankings were issued, they are now four places above the Republic of Ireland, who have slipped down six places to 49th following a difficult start to Steve Staunton's reign as manager.
Under Sanchez, Northern Ireland have risen from 124th place. However, their progress did not stop the former Wimbledon defender considering his position last month after receiving criticism he felt his team did not deserve.
But the new rankings mean he has already fulfilled one aim, after he stated two weeks ago: "In the course of my time in charge I would like to think we could go above the Republic in the rankings."
The Republic have slipped badly, thanks in the main to a shocking 5-2 defeat in Cyprus, while Wales - beaten 5-1 at home by Slovakia recently - have dropped 15 places to 77th, with the likes of Venezuela, Algeria and Panama just ahead of them.
England, who have also endured mixed fortunes under their new coach Steve McClaren, have gone down one place since last month's rankings to fifth in the world.
Brazil still lead the rankings, but World Cup winners Italy are closing in on them, rising three places to second spot.
Despite their triumph in Berlin on 9 July, Italy slumped after Roberto Donadoni took over from Marcello Lippi. However, victories over Ukraine and Georgia in European Championship qualifying games have pushed the team up the rankings from fifth.
France slipped to third after the defeat in Glasgow while Argentina, beaten 3-0 by Brazil in a friendly, are down one spot to fourth.
Germany, who have started well in Euro 2008 qualifying with three straight victories, have jumped two places to sixth. European champion Greece return to the top 20 - at 14th - after winning three qualifying games.
Otto Rehhagel's team have now moved up 18 places in two months.
I don't know if I missed it, but I cannot find any games that the US MNT played after the WC. Can anyone say when did they play after the WC?
These rankings are not very valid. Competitive games as a marker is not a bad idea. But it seems that player growth, pro leagues, and players playing professionally are no longer used in the ranking process. Does anyone know other markers for the ranking system?
In 2006 T&T has played 11 matches so far. 7 of those teams had been high-class teams of which T&T have won none, drawn 2 and lost 6.We badly need to play and beat some high class teams do you all see that we dragged ourselves in a hole by playing lowly ranked teams!!!!!!!!Compared to Jamaica T&T has not done well against high-class teams or those ranked a little above them. All the teams that T&T have beaten since the start of 2006 is ranked below them.
Jamaica on the other hand have consistently beaten and been beaten by teams ranked above them.
name the teams jamaica has consistently beaten above them?
Since the beginning of 2006 Jamaica has played the US, Ghana, England, Canada(twice), St Lucia, St Vincent and Haiti, so I guess de so called "high class teams" he is referring to that they have "consistently" beaten this year are St Lucia, Haiti and Canada. Yeah dat real make sense ::)
In 2006 T&T has played 11 matches so far. 7 of those teams had been high-class teams of which T&T have won none, drawn 2 and lost 6.We badly need to play and beat some high class teams do you all see that we dragged ourselves in a hole by playing lowly ranked teams!!!!!!!!Compared to Jamaica T&T has not done well against high-class teams or those ranked a little above them. All the teams that T&T have beaten since the start of 2006 is ranked below them.
Jamaica on the other hand have consistently beaten and been beaten by teams ranked above them.
name the teams jamaica has consistently beaten above them?
Since the beginning of 2006 Jamaica has played the US, Ghana, England, Canada(twice), St Lucia, St Vincent and Haiti, so I guess de so called "high class teams" he is referring to that they have "consistently" beaten this year are St Lucia, Haiti and Canada. Yeah dat real make sense ::)
For Jamaica, who played 7 matches. 3 have been high-class teams with Canada ranked a liitle below Jamaica. There were 3 losses to Ghana, England & Canada. A draw with the USA and a victory against Canada.
So what did the rankings averages account for: the most wins, draws or losses against high-ranked teams.
You specified 2006 from this:
All the teams that T&T have beaten since the start of 2006 is ranked below them.
Jamaica on the other hand have consistently beaten and been beaten by teams ranked above them.
Well since "being consistent" means doing something more than once and you want to stick to 2006 facts then I repeat: Jamaica has lost to 2 teams ranked above them and drawn one.
Now! Of all 7 top teams that T&T has lost to. With the same preparation that T&T had. How many of those top ranked teams do you think would have beaten Jamaica?
You specified 2006 from this:Seeing that you seriously thought this through I will ask this: if you played the teams in your World Cup group again. How many goals would you lose by? :devil: :devil:
All the teams that T&T have beaten since the start of 2006 is ranked below them.
Jamaica on the other hand have consistently beaten and been beaten by teams ranked above them.
Well since "being consistent" means doing something more than once and you want to stick to 2006 facts then I repeat: Jamaica has lost to 2 teams ranked above them and drawn one.
Now! Of all 7 top teams that T&T has lost to. With the same preparation that T&T had. How many of those top ranked teams do you think would have beaten Jamaica?
Well let me think... :whistling: Ahhh ALL OF THEM :loser:
You specified 2006 from this:
All the teams that T&T have beaten since the start of 2006 is ranked below them.
Jamaica on the other hand have consistently beaten and been beaten by teams ranked above them.
Well since "being consistent" means doing something more than once and you want to stick to 2006 facts then I repeat: Jamaica has lost to 2 teams ranked above them and drawn one.
Now! Of all 7 top teams that T&T has lost to. With the same preparation that T&T had. How many of those top ranked teams do you think would have beaten Jamaica?
After looking at the ranking formula it looks like there is no benefit from playing friendlies against the likes of St Vincent at all.
The players do not really benefit.
Our ranking does not really benefit.
Does anyone benefit?
Unnuh nuh shame? All dat winey winey inna speedos an unnuh still 40 places behind the SHOTTA BOYZ :)hey man u real cool dred.
Unnuh nuh shame? All dat winey winey inna speedos an unnuh still 40 places behind the SHOTTA BOYZ :)hey man u real cool dred.
yuh right about lots of things yes. i does jus be laughing
but jus one question
i eh seem to understand Why your keep the picture of one man squeezing ha next man penis?
Most men woulda make thye point and move on. put up ah lil picture of ah sexy woman to counter act all the testosterone
but u seem to enjoy that pic lil more than usual?
Why may i ask?
Panama 74
Peru 79
Trinidad and Tobago 80
and now!
Panama 74
Peru 79
Trinidad and Tobago 80
and now!
Sup all...Im here again!what were panama's results like?
Your squad are playing a few games since last World Cup! and Panama played a lot of games!
Whats You expect to have more points? :rotfl:
Panama 74Congrats Panama!!!!
Peru 79
Trinidad and Tobago 80
and now!
Panama 74
Peru 79
Trinidad and Tobago 80
and now!
and now what Carlitos Colon ???
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Nov-2006,00.htmlTHIS IS FU##%# RIDICULOUS NOW! WHO THE ASS IN CHARGE OF THAT BLASTED SYSTEM ANYWAY!
This ought to generate some lively talk...
how up to date are these rankings?....ah guess whipping the 'Vincey heat' 5-0 doh count fuh nothing then! ???
So much for further UK contracts for our players as our team has to stay above # 70 in the rankings for this.
how up to date are these rankings?....ah guess whipping the 'Vincey heat' 5-0 doh count fuh nothing then! ???Beating a team ranked below you doesn't score much points even though a win is 3 points.
They need to rewrite that entire system using COMMON SENSE. What a friggin joke those rankings are. And they affect our permit situations too.The English FA ranking is much different from FIFA for countries. When Jamaica was rank 78 in FIFA's ranking. The English FA had us rank at 40.
o gosh Mali is 36th ranked
now i know we gone down in de dumps :rotfl:
o gosh Mali is 36th ranked
now i know we gone down in de dumps :rotfl:
yuh know is :bs: when yuh see teams like uzbekistan ranked at 45th.
Dred I done with FIFA rankings yes...even if yuh explain de methodology behind it using figures and points it eh go make me feel better about that position. I go stay in my ignorance. I know what my team could do on a good day and I eh letting any "official" ranking tell me the quality of meh team. 4k dat.
o gosh Mali is 36th ranked
now i know we gone down in de dumps :rotfl:
yuh know is :bs: when yuh see teams like uzbekistan ranked at 45th.
u serious bredda? uzbekistan is 45th, wat de ass :rotfl: these men doin lines of the white b4 dey do de ranking or wha ??? >:(
how up to date are these rankings?....ah guess whipping the 'Vincey heat' 5-0 doh count fuh nothing then! ???Beating a team ranked below you doesn't score much points even though a win is 3 points.
Points are more important in tournaments. So by beating Jamaica was a big plus for them.how up to date are these rankings?....ah guess whipping the 'Vincey heat' 5-0 doh count fuh nothing then! ???Beating a team ranked below you doesn't score much points even though a win is 3 points.
So where did SVG get all these points that put it ahead of Haiti and TnT? Both teams humiliated SVG. Other than one close victory over Jamaica, I am not aware that the vincies have beaten any significant opponent. They suffer 3 heavy losses in less than three months!
Points are more important in tournaments. So by beating Jamaica was a big plus for them.how up to date are these rankings?....ah guess whipping the 'Vincey heat' 5-0 doh count fuh nothing then! ???Beating a team ranked below you doesn't score much points even though a win is 3 points.
So where did SVG get all these points that put it ahead of Haiti and TnT? Both teams humiliated SVG. Other than one close victory over Jamaica, I am not aware that the vincies have beaten any significant opponent. They suffer 3 heavy losses in less than three months!
Points are more important in tournaments. So by beating Jamaica was a big plus for them.how up to date are these rankings?....ah guess whipping the 'Vincey heat' 5-0 doh count fuh nothing then! ???Beating a team ranked below you doesn't score much points even though a win is 3 points.
So where did SVG get all these points that put it ahead of Haiti and TnT? Both teams humiliated SVG. Other than one close victory over Jamaica, I am not aware that the vincies have beaten any significant opponent. They suffer 3 heavy losses in less than three months!
The teams we beat, including SVG, we beat them in tournaments also. So, how come we still behind TnT? I thought everybody was leaving TnT behind ;D ,
o gosh Mali is 36th ranked
now i know we gone down in de dumps :rotfl:
o gosh Mali is 36th ranked
now i know we gone down in de dumps :rotfl:
MALI
Mohammed Sissoko - Liverpool
Fredde Kanote - Sevilla
Mohamudo Diarra - Real Madrid
Mali are a good team pal!!
73 Cyprus 428 7 16
76 Zimbabwe 424 6 14
77 Slovenia 414 1 -4
78 Cape Verde Islands 413 5 4
79 Algeria 412 -6 -35
I say we play these teams, here we sure to win,maybe we will get in the 100's ranking lol ZIMBABWE? STEUPS
I told you it'd get worse before it got better...
All I have to say is we better win all our matches in the digicell cup
I cant remember the last time we were ranked this low ???
With dat ranking we should'nt qualify for nothing , not even Gold Cup farless World cup .
how st vincent can be ranked above us , we just hit them 5
Cuba has played 6 games since September and has not lost and drawn only one. The same cannot be said of T&T so Cuba rightly deserves the spot as the #1 Caribbean ranked team.With dat ranking we should'nt qualify for nothing , not even Gold Cup farless World cup .
Royal doh study it. How Cuba ranked so high? When last they played? How often they play? Imagine Cuba ranked higher than Costa Rica & T&T whom played in the WC. FIFA should scrap that shit and concentrate on rankin its officials :devil:
Good Morning Guys.
Please don't take that seriously. The only real ranking is when two teams take the field and battle to the end. Coca Cola rankings is sponsor money for FIFa. Peace
Here are Cuba's matches since September.Cuba has played 6 games since September and has not lost and drawn only one. The same cannot be said of T&T so Cuba rightly deserves the spot as the #1 Caribbean ranked team.QuoteQuote
Who did Cuba play since September that they deserve a higher ranking?
Good Morning Guys.
Please don't take that seriously. The only real ranking is when two teams take the field and battle to the end. Coca Cola rankings is sponsor money for FIFa. Peace
There is a very legitimate reason for people to get upset about these rankings......people do take them seriously, namely, the British Home office who issue work permits!! Britian employs the great majority of our foreign based and most recognised professionals. As of our current ranking any future T&T player offered a contract by a UK club will be immediatley blanked. All permit applications (even some for renewals) for T&T players will have to go to an appeals panel. If Colin Samuel, Josh Johnson, Hector Sam or Kenwyne Jones's contracts were up for renewal today them fellas would seriously be sweating about wether their contracts would be renewed or not! All these fellas are balancing percariously on the min spec of appearing in 75% of their clubs fixtures for their contract duration.
We may critisise the rankings and dismiss them, but they have a serious bearing on the wellfare of T&T footballers.
Though I don't think T&T currently are as good as 46th in the world neither do I think we should be as low as 91st! I also can't see how Cuba should be 46 more like 60. Who's fault is it...well mainly FIFA for such a SH*T system but also the TTFF for not playing more internationals....even against crap opposition, is not like they doh know the rules of the ranking system.
1. The ranking that the British home office uses is an average of our ranking in the last 2 years. Obviously falling to 91 doesn't help, but its not as dramatic as you make it sound Also the ranking is not the only criteria that determines if the work permits are given or not, which is why men like scotland who should be in the scottish premiership playin first division...
2. At this stage, playing more internationals would not necessarily help us, at least not when they're friendlies, and defiitely not if we lost them. The main problem is us getting to host the Digicell Cup. I think if we had to qualify (and did) we would be somewhere in the 50s or so, definitely not lower than the 60s
1. The ranking that the British home office uses is an average of our ranking in the last 2 years. Obviously falling to 91 doesn't help, but its not as dramatic as you make it sound Also the ranking is not the only criteria that determines if the work permits are given or not, which is why men like scotland who should be in the scottish premiership playin first division...
2. At this stage, playing more internationals would not necessarily help us, at least not when they're friendlies, and defiitely not if we lost them. The main problem is us getting to host the Digicell Cup. I think if we had to qualify (and did) we would be somewhere in the 50s or so, definitely not lower than the 60s
I agree it is not the only criteria but for a country like T&T unfortunately it is as dramatic as I make it sound. The first criteria for RENEWALS of work permits is club appearances (I did mention this). And it is 75% of appearances over the DURATION of their expiring contract. The guys I mentioned will have had to go to appeal, if, as I said their contracts were up for renewal TODAY!. The two year rankings average is used for players who are new to UK football, have no noted pro experience for the panel to refer to and their teams current ranking is below 70. Other than maybe Silvio Spann, I doubt any other T&T local based pro would have an easy ride getting a permit. This is what I mean. If your ranking is higher than 70 and you have played in 75% or more of your countries internationals in the past two years you will get a permit...any disparity with this and it has to go to appeal.
Unless like Yorkie, yuh is ah bigtime pro anyhow.
1. The ranking that the British home office uses is an average of our ranking in the last 2 years. Obviously falling to 91 doesn't help, but its not as dramatic as you make it sound Also the ranking is not the only criteria that determines if the work permits are given or not, which is why men like scotland who should be in the scottish premiership playin first division...
2. At this stage, playing more internationals would not necessarily help us, at least not when they're friendlies, and defiitely not if we lost them. The main problem is us getting to host the Digicell Cup. I think if we had to qualify (and did) we would be somewhere in the 50s or so, definitely not lower than the 60s
I agree it is not the only criteria but for a country like T&T unfortunately it is as dramatic as I make it sound. The first criteria for RENEWALS of work permits is club appearances (I did mention this). And it is 75% of appearances over the DURATION of their expiring contract. The guys I mentioned will have had to go to appeal, if, as I said their contracts were up for renewal TODAY!. The two year rankings average is used for players who are new to UK football, have no noted pro experience for the panel to refer to and their teams current ranking is below 70. Other than maybe Silvio Spann, I doubt any other T&T local based pro would have an easy ride getting a permit. This is what I mean. If your ranking is higher than 70 and you have played in 75% or more of your countries internationals in the past two years you will get a permit...any disparity with this and it has to go to appeal.
Unless like Yorkie, yuh is ah bigtime pro anyhow.
I see mih error. nuff respect for the correction. In your initial post you had stated 75% of their clubs appearances and i took 'club' to mean the english team...
A little off topic eh...i was wondering the same thing when i read that Angloma was playing for Guadulupe.
Seeing that Martinique and Guadelupe are wards of France and cant play in WCQ's...and that Angloma is running out for Guad. now, suppose one day, all them big french stars decide to jus come and play for Martinique to get them to the Gold Cup, allyuh feel FIFA will allow that?
Imagine Henry warming up on the side of the national stadium getting ready to come in after T&T went 2-1 up vs them 2 nights ago...
Man from T&T start pulling muscle and thing yes, LOL.
Imagine Henry warming up on the side of the national stadium getting ready to come in after T&T went 2-1 up vs them 2 nights ago...
Man from T&T start pulling muscle and thing yes, LOL.
Imagine Henry warming up on the side of the national stadium getting ready to come in after T&T went 2-1 up vs them 2 nights ago...
Man from T&T start pulling muscle and thing yes, LOL.
Thas the same way the Martiniquans must have felt when they see Hardest in de starting line up
:rotfl: :rotfl: classic arrow postImagine Henry warming up on the side of the national stadium getting ready to come in after T&T went 2-1 up vs them 2 nights ago...
Man from T&T start pulling muscle and thing yes, LOL.
Thas the same way the Martiniquans must have felt when they see Hardest in de starting line up
how panama in front ah we ???
Forget that, how Jamaica or Canada in front of we?
Dis FIFA ranking ting is shyte! >:(
The most trustworthy source is ELO:
one question, how does cuba get ranked 48th, please tell me, bc tt holds de most caribbean cups and the most hex appearances, not to mention most gold cup appearances and we below these teams, dat is bullshit... >:(
Simply because they only look at 1 team and not the whole.one question, how does cuba get ranked 48th, please tell me, bc tt holds de most caribbean cups and the most hex appearances, not to mention most gold cup appearances and we below these teams, dat is bullshit... >:(
Is every month you does ask the same stupid question?
According to the latest FIFA ranking, I just realised that we beat Cuba which is ranked the Caribbean number one team.....
Bravo.... ;)
This Caribbean cup should do wonders for us as far as this ranking goes. Especially if we take Haiti again in the final.
This Caribbean cup should do wonders for us as far as this ranking goes. Especially if we take Haiti again in the final.
Well, do we count the win vs Martinique also ?
My guess is 55.
Or somewhere between 50 and 60.
If these games count as continental qualifiers (Ranking System (http://www.fifa.com/documents/tournaments/FIFA_WR_revision_E.pdf)), then we supposed to get 1873 points from these matches.
Divide that by the number of mtches we played in the last 12 months and that would be the amount of ranking points we gaining.
More than likely it wouldn't weigthed as a continental qualifer but a "small regional tournament" which is same as a friendly. Then you hadda divide 749 by the number of matches in the last 12 months to see how much points we gain. all this not counting the points we lose from games 4 years ago and others that now being weigthed less.
4 matches in Digicel....3 WC....how many international friendlies?
How de ass Jamaica ahead of us?
FIFA ranking system useless no ass!
Confused. Can the experts help me?Its because you guys have not had good results against Canada and Peru
Haiti was 92nd in Jan and Haiti remains 92nd. Cuba has been winning matches although against lower ranked teams, but instead of gaining pts Cuba actually lost 29 pts ??? Help, Help, Help ;D
Confused. Can the experts help me?Its because you guys have not had good results against Canada and Peru
Haiti was 92nd in Jan and Haiti remains 92nd. Cuba has been winning matches although against lower ranked teams, but instead of gaining pts Cuba actually lost 29 pts ??? Help, Help, Help ;D
Haiti was 92nd in Jan and Haiti remains 92nd.
Haiti was 92nd in Jan and Haiti remains 92nd.
Toussaint that ranking system is some crazy shit.
Best thing to do is just ignore, it not worth the worry.
Or if u know who administers it, hit dem a big stone.
Ah hear W Connection beating Chivas is seen as a T&T victory over Mex. So we moving up 2 spots next ranking.;D ;D ;D He need ah purge
acctually JA still riding on points they made during ouer WC run. They acquired alot of points then and since we are playing more matches now we should catch up with them and surpass them or they just fall like normal ;D
| Rank | Team . | Pts: . | +/-Rank . | +/-Pts: |
| 6 | England | 1330 | 0 | -29 |
| 16 | Sweden | 894 | -2 | -64 |
| 19 | Mexico | 857 | 2 | -26 |
| 28 | USA | 783 | 3 | -9 |
| 30 | Parag | 755 | 5 | 10 |
| 34 | Chile | 706 | 6 | 6 |
| 41 | Japan | 649 | 5 | 9 |
| 51 | Cuba | 590 | -3 | -29 |
| 54 | CR | 535 | 12 | 75 |
| 56 | JA | 531 | 1 | 4 |
| 59 | HON | 504 | -3 | -34 |
| 62 | Guinea | 495 | -40 | -386 |
| 66 | VEN | 452 | 7 | 18 |
| 67 | Peru | 447 | 3 | 0 |
| 68 | T&T | 446 | 19 | 74 |
| 74 | Panama | 423 | 6 | 12 |
| 87 | Canada | 362 | -6 | -37 |
| 87 | Guat | 362 | 18 | 80 |
| 92 | Haiti | 354 | 0 | 8 |
| 98 | Bahrain | 313 | -1 | -8 |
| 100 | SVG | 308 | 4 | 23 |
acctually JA still riding on points they made during ouer WC run. They acquired alot of points then and since we are playing more matches now we should catch up with them and surpass them or they just fall like normal ;D
Since they did not play any match in the past month, they cannot possibly earn new pts. Assuming their accumulated pts have not yet started devaluating, they can at most have the same pts they had in the previous month unless someone here can make sense out of that.
Rank Team . Pts: . +/-Rank . +/-Pts: 6 England 1330 0 -29 16 Sweden 894 -2 -64 19 Mexico 857 2 -26 28 USA 783 3 -9 30 Parag 755 5 10 34 Chile 706 6 6 41 Japan 649 5 9 51 Cuba 590 -3 -29 54 CR 535 12 75 56 JA 531 1 4 59 HON 504 -3 -34 62 Guinea 495 -40 -386 66 VEN 452 7 18 67 Peru 447 3 0 68 T&T 446 19 74 74 Panama 423 6 12 87 Canada 362 -6 -37 87 Guat 362 18 80 92 Haiti 354 0 8 98 Bahrain 313 -1 -8 100 SVG 308 4 23
Wayys...Guines was up in the 20s? Shot back down to earth.
A lot of teams losing points but some still move up by losing less than others. So maybe Haiti lost points from previous good results. How many games you'll played for the year? Cuba was the highest ranked team in the Digicel so beating them was the biggest scalp.
In January, we won 4 matches without counting the wins over Martinique and Guadeloupe.
Notice that since TnT beat the same teams we beat and their victory over Cuba sure handed them more points than us, we expected TnT to remain ahead of us. But, for us not to move at all is quite unbelievable.
The biggest uncertainity in this whole ranking is how much points u going to lose in the coming month due to previous games being weighted less.
Some months u will lose none...others u might actually pick up small points and then sometimes a big loss. Like come June we will see the Sweden game lose some value.
The biggest uncertainity in this whole ranking is how much points u going to lose in the coming month due to previous games being weighted less.
Some months u will lose none...others u might actually pick up small points and then sometimes a big loss. Like come June we will see the Sweden game lose some value.
That explains how a team can actually move up the ranking without earning new points. But, it does not explain how a team actually earn pts without playing at all. In our case, Jamaica earned 4pts. How?
Jan last 2 years u tied with Costa Rica in a friendly (impressive) and beat T&T...and draw with Cuba in a GC qualifier (Digicel?)...so them points get devalued. We were ranked higher then so that is a good bit of points.
U lose a little points from WC qualifiers in Jan/Feb 2004 against Turks..a friendly draw with Nicaragua
How many games u'll play in 2005? Real little bit.
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/results/resultsdetails.html
But, how do you earn pts without playing?
But, how do you earn pts without playing?
By having a loss go away. It makes the number of games played go down so your average score is better.
They didn't really earn any points. Just the number of games u averaging over is less so they get a better score.
It kinda weird but u hadda take into account past results and see if what u doing now could replace your results from a year ago...2 years ago for the same month. So not playing this month is better than losing one year ago so they gain some points.
Dais de best i cud do to explain it. :-\
And Panama is now #54
Awaiting the many posts of indignation over the rankings.
My monthly fix...
Awaiting the many posts of indignation over the rankings.
My monthly fix...
argentina is my team but I dont agree that they deserve the no 1 spot after one victory against a team not rated as the top. Their record after the WC is poor ...
T & T @ 68th.
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Mar-2007,00.html
Argentina No. 1 in FIFA rankings for first time
March 14, 2007
ZURICH, Switzerland (AP) -- Argentina claimed the top spot in the FIFA rankings for the first time since they began in 1993, displacing World Cup champion Italy on Wednesday.
The United States dropped two places to No. 30, nine behind Mexico, the top-ranked team from the North and Central American and Caribbean region.
Italy fell to second, one spot ahead of Brazil, which had been No. 1 for 55 consecutive months before the Azzurri took over in February.
Argentina's move to the top was boosted by its 1-0 exhibition victory last month over World Cup runner-up France, which remained in fourth. Les Bleus were followed by Germany, England and the Netherlands, Portugal, the Czech Republic and Spain.
T & T @ 68th.
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Mar-2007,00.html
Argentina No. 1 in FIFA rankings for first time
March 14, 2007
ZURICH, Switzerland (AP) -- Argentina claimed the top spot in the FIFA rankings for the first time since they began in 1993, displacing World Cup champion Italy on Wednesday.
The United States dropped two places to No. 30, nine behind Mexico, the top-ranked team from the North and Central American and Caribbean region.
Italy fell to second, one spot ahead of Brazil, which had been No. 1 for 55 consecutive months before the Azzurri took over in February.
Argentina's move to the top was boosted by its 1-0 exhibition victory last month over World Cup runner-up France, which remained in fourth. Les Bleus were followed by Germany, England and the Netherlands, Portugal, the Czech Republic and Spain.
Fire bun Argentina!
stop de hatred bredda. :challenge:point de day we paths cross,ah might have cause to damage yuh.lol.T & T @ 68th.
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Mar-2007,00.html
Argentina No. 1 in FIFA rankings for first time
March 14, 2007
ZURICH, Switzerland (AP) -- Argentina claimed the top spot in the FIFA rankings for the first time since they began in 1993, displacing World Cup champion Italy on Wednesday.
The United States dropped two places to No. 30, nine behind Mexico, the top-ranked team from the North and Central American and Caribbean region.
Italy fell to second, one spot ahead of Brazil, which had been No. 1 for 55 consecutive months before the Azzurri took over in February.
Argentina's move to the top was boosted by its 1-0 exhibition victory last month over World Cup runner-up France, which remained in fourth. Les Bleus were followed by Germany, England and the Netherlands, Portugal, the Czech Republic and Spain.
Fire bun Argentina!
capo,i believe in every human being there is some sort of racism,larceny and criminal intent.
yuh never deal with argentines or wha? they is a set ah racist scum.
capo,
yuh never deal with argentines or wha? they is a set ah racist scum.
!!??? So you will tolerate racism, and even like racists!!?...Even when they racist against you and yuh whole family who never do nobody nutten!!?capo,i believe in every human being there is some sort of racism,larceny and criminal intent.
yuh never deal with argentines or wha? they is a set ah racist scum.
capo,
yuh never deal with argentines or wha? they is a set ah racist scum.
Supa agree wid yuh 100%, fire fuh dem. A few years ago ah went wid ah touring team tuh Argentina, fuh ah airline tournament, and trust meh fuh who doh know, dey is the biggest set ah racist yuh cud find. Ah Jamaican breddah and myself were the only black players on de team, and it wasn't ah nice experience over dey. Dey cud only try dat shit over dey doh, dey cah come here wid dat cuz is :flamethrower: :flamethrower: However, give credit where it is due, dey does produce some ah best talent yuh could find in de world. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Supa agree wid yuh 100%, fire fuh dem. A few years ago ah went wid ah touring team tuh Argentina, fuh ah airline tournament, and trust meh fuh who doh know, dey is the biggest set ah racist yuh cud find. Ah Jamaican breddah and myself were the only black players on de team, and it wasn't ah nice experience over dey. Dey cud only try dat shit over dey doh, dey cah come here wid dat cuz is :flamethrower: :flamethrower: However, give credit where it is due, dey does produce some ah best talent yuh could find in de world. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Supa I goh agree wid yuh on dis one . Dem is one setah elitist minded %@#^. Ah use to wuk with a Argentinian an when he see TnT playing de man use tuh rel tun up he face and telling me why you watching those fellas for, dat ain't football. I use to wah cuss he #$%@ bad bad.
From all things I have heard of Argentinians is they are very elitist minded an he prove jus what I've heard of them.
But I will give them the credit because I think they are the best team out there right now.
i am ah fukin racist,wat i also doh like is people who talk trivial shit.from my statement my friend,there is some sort of racism in every fukin body.to each his own.in this life there is nothin like perfection.everything in this world is flawed.if there is no crime,you will need no police,if yuh dont litter,there will be no garbagemen.choose yuh path,go with de flow and live with de consequences my friend.!!??? So you will tolerate racism, and even like racists!!?...Even when they racist against you and yuh whole family who never do nobody nutten!!?capo,i believe in every human being there is some sort of racism,larceny and criminal intent.
yuh never deal with argentines or wha? they is a set ah racist scum.
Worst yet, from your statement, are YOU a racist?
Come again breddah...get yuh head out de sand.
Ah wonder what race you are?
i am ah f**kin racist???
if yuh dont litter,there will be no garbagemen.
all trinis only like to drink, fete, storm ppl wedding, skip wuk, lime for no reason, small talk and catch kicks whole day...so all trinis lazy and good for nothing.
ent messi now turn 18 or someting?
how yuh lookin to rob de cradle so gyirl....leave de people an dem chirren alone :devil:
:rotfl: :rotfl:all trinis only like to drink, fete, storm ppl wedding, skip wuk, lime for no reason, small talk and catch kicks whole day...so all trinis lazy and good for nothing.
that is an accurate description for the most part.
yuh forget the part bout running woman though.
toppa,
yuh like m-m-m-m-midget?
dat boy is 5' 3" max.
dat boy is 5' 3" max.
dat boy is 5' 3" max.
About the only thing that make sense here is the part where yuh cuss and proudly state that you are a racist. Seek help.i am ah f**kin racist,wat i also doh like is people who talk trivial shit.from my statement my friend,there is some sort of racism in every f**kin body.to each his own.in this life there is nothin like perfection.everything in this world is flawed.if there is no crime,you will need no police,if yuh dont litter,there will be no garbagemen.choose yuh path,go with de flow and live with de consequences my friend.!!??? So you will tolerate racism, and even like racists!!?...Even when they racist against you and yuh whole family who never do nobody nutten!!?capo,i believe in every human being there is some sort of racism,larceny and criminal intent.
yuh never deal with argentines or wha? they is a set ah racist scum.
Worst yet, from your statement, are YOU a racist?
Come again breddah...get yuh head out de sand.
Ah wonder what race you are?
Supa agree wid yuh 100%, fire fuh dem. A few years ago ah went wid ah touring team tuh Argentina, fuh ah airline tournament, and trust meh fuh who doh know, dey is the biggest set ah racist yuh cud find. Ah Jamaican breddah and myself were the only black players on de team, and it wasn't ah nice experience over dey. Dey cud only try dat shit over dey doh, dey cah come here wid dat cuz is :flamethrower: :flamethrower: However, give credit where it is due, dey does produce some ah best talent yuh could find in de world. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Supa I goh agree wid yuh on dis one . Dem is one setah elitist minded %@#^. Ah use to wuk with a Argentinian an when he see TnT playing de man use tuh rel tun up he face and telling me why you watching those fellas for, dat ain't football. I use to wah cuss he #$%@ bad bad.
From all things I have heard of Argentinians is they are very elitist minded an he prove jus what I've heard of them.
But I will give them the credit because I think they are the best team out there right now.
hmmm. your co-worker is a cacahole. but it's kinda sad that meeting one person like that could make you believe a stereotype. Imagine if everyone thought this way ??? ??? think about this...supposed you met a woman who said that all her life people told her that Trinis were lazy and the first time she met a Trini was at the workplace and he was not very smart and not very motivated and simply did no work. She now asserts that based on meeting ONE entire whole Trini she can say with confidence that Trinis are lazy......I don't think that's rational...do you?
Dale BOCA
In fact maradona has often said messi and kun should lead the Argentina frontline at senior level...
I say bring whoever is responsible for producing that kind of talent on a regular basis to T&T yes....I believe we have the raw material ..!
Supa agree wid yuh 100%, fire fuh dem. A few years ago ah went wid ah touring team tuh Argentina, fuh ah airline tournament, and trust meh fuh who doh know, dey is the biggest set ah racist yuh cud find. Ah Jamaican breddah and myself were the only black players on de team, and it wasn't ah nice experience over dey. Dey cud only try dat shit over dey doh, dey cah come here wid dat cuz is :flamethrower: :flamethrower: However, give credit where it is due, dey does produce some ah best talent yuh could find in de world. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Supa I goh agree wid yuh on dis one . Dem is one setah elitist minded %@#^. Ah use to wuk with a Argentinian an when he see TnT playing de man use tuh rel tun up he face and telling me why you watching those fellas for, dat ain't football. I use to wah cuss he #$%@ bad bad.
From all things I have heard of Argentinians is they are very elitist minded an he prove jus what I've heard of them.
But I will give them the credit because I think they are the best team out there right now.
hmmm. your co-worker is a cacahole. but it's kinda sad that meeting one person like that could make you believe a stereotype. Imagine if everyone thought this way ??? ??? think about this...supposed you met a woman who said that all her life people told her that Trinis were lazy and the first time she met a Trini was at the workplace and he was not very smart and not very motivated and simply did no work. She now asserts that based on meeting ONE entire whole Trini she can say with confidence that Trinis are lazy......I don't think that's rational...do you?
Dale BOCA
Filho I am much more educated than to think all ppl of a country are a certain way. I was just saying that by my experience together from what I have heard he filled the stereotype very well. But will my next introduction to another Argentinian lead me to be negative, or hostile because of his countryman? No it won't because I would never be so closed mind. I was just venting my experience that's all. ;D
stop de hatred bredda. :challenge:point de day we paths cross,ah might have cause to damage yuh.lol.T & T @ 68th.
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Mar-2007,00.html
Argentina No. 1 in FIFA rankings for first time
March 14, 2007
ZURICH, Switzerland (AP) -- Argentina claimed the top spot in the FIFA rankings for the first time since they began in 1993, displacing World Cup champion Italy on Wednesday.
The United States dropped two places to No. 30, nine behind Mexico, the top-ranked team from the North and Central American and Caribbean region.
Italy fell to second, one spot ahead of Brazil, which had been No. 1 for 55 consecutive months before the Azzurri took over in February.
Argentina's move to the top was boosted by its 1-0 exhibition victory last month over World Cup runner-up France, which remained in fourth. Les Bleus were followed by Germany, England and the Netherlands, Portugal, the Czech Republic and Spain.
Fire bun Argentina!
it's funny how dis topic of racism is always raise itself in every argentian, italian, or spanish thread.....
I doh understnad how men could be so ignorant, and sterotype an entire country racists because ah 1 or 2 assholes yuh meet, or 1 bad experience yuh had.
I have 2 really good Argentinian friends. My coach is Argentinian and they are easily 3 of the best people I know. I have visted Argentina, and I have had no problems there. Side note: the women there sweet too bad ;D
People have to accept they are racist assholes in every country, but labelling the entire country racists based on 1 or 2 experiences doh makes sense.
e.g.
(1) Some Athletico madrid fans wavin the confederates flag, therefore all of the sudden all spanish people racists
(2) A Lazio fan makes racist comment, therefore the whole of Italy is a racist country
(3) A man had a bad experience in Argentina, the whole ah argentina is some racist pigs...
I was walking down fredrick street with my cousin in Trinidad, and he is chinese. Dis man start to call him bruce lee and shouting fake chinese words at us....so wait, Trinidad racist too ??? Should I label all Trinis racist based on dat asshole, and N.B. this happens all the time in Trinidad
*long flicking steups*
it's funny how dis topic of racism is always raise itself in every argentian, italian, or spanish thread.....
I doh understnad how men could be so ignorant, and sterotype an entire country racists because ah 1 or 2 assholes yuh meet, or 1 bad experience yuh had.
I have 2 really good Argentinian friends. My coach is Argentinian and they are easily 3 of the best people I know. I have visted Argentina, and I have had no problems there. Side note: the women there sweet too bad ;D
People have to accept they are racist assholes in every country, but labelling the entire country racists based on 1 or 2 experiences doh makes sense.
e.g.
(1) Some Athletico madrid fans wavin the confederates flag, therefore all of the sudden all spanish people racists
(2) A Lazio fan makes racist comment, therefore the whole of Italy is a racist country
(3) A man had a bad experience in Argentina, the whole ah argentina is some racist pigs...
I was walking down fredrick street with my cousin in Trinidad, and he is chinese. Dis man start to call him bruce lee and shouting fake chinese words at us....so wait, Trinidad racist too ??? Should I label all Trinis racist based on dat asshole, and N.B. this happens all the time in Trinidad
*long flicking steups*
Yow, in case yuh doh know, you is the only person I see giving supporting remarks about Argentina, ah will go dat far tuh tell yuh talking real shit. Fuh yuh info, up tuh recently, Supa use tuh play wid an airline touring team, and I made about 3 tours each tuh Argentina, Chile and Uruguay, and 1 tour to Brazil, just tuh name ah few of meh tours. Ah not trying tuh show off or anything of that nature, cuz yuh would see in meh other post, ah didn't mention all dem countries ah toured, but when ah see yuh type dat shit about a bad experience, ah have tuh let yuh know dat I been there not once, but 3 times, yuh doh have ah damn clue about Argentina. Yuh probably made a one trip, lock up in yuh hotel room, like ah lil scared baby boy, people probably take yuh around on ah tourist guide bus, tuh may be 2 or 3 places and yuh hop back on yuh flight and go home, and yuh want yuh come here and rate dem, man doh f**k we up nah. De Argentine youth, de Jamaican breddah, another youth from Chile and Supa, we hit de streets like some real rude bois, and de same crew also hit de streets a couple times at night fuh a lil night life, so meh boi I've tasted the raw life in Argentina. So go and run up yuh mouth by some body who never travel and know de real deal out dey. Yuh get meh real f*****g mad wid dat, there are young and older folks on de forum that never had the opportunity tuh be in dat country, so why de hell yuh want tuh mislead dem about a very important topic (Racist) like this, de people must know de damn truth man. Fellah is 3 f*****g times ah went there, nice food, beautiful ladies, extremely talented soccer players, but they are f*****g racist. Guess what, the best player and one of the friendliest guys on de touring team is from Argentina, but he came to USA, when he was a lil kid, so he basically (I hope) look at life differently. When we were leaving tuh go there the first time, he told us not tuh be offended, but almost all of Argentina are racist people. He is from there and he could admit that, but yuh want tuh come here wid that shit talk. Look boi, DO SO NAH . HIGHLY BLESSED.
Yow, in case yuh doh know, you is the only person I see giving supporting remarks about Argentina, ah will go dat far tuh tell yuh talking real shit. Fuh yuh info, up tuh recently, Supa use tuh play wid an airline touring team, and I made about 3 tours each tuh Argentina, Chile and Uruguay, and 1 tour to Brazil, just tuh name ah few of meh tours. Ah not trying tuh show off or anything of that nature, cuz yuh would see in meh other post, ah didn't mention all dem countries ah toured, but when ah see yuh type dat shit about a bad experience, ah have tuh let yuh know dat I been there not once, but 3 times, yuh doh have ah damn clue about Argentina. Yuh probably made a one trip, lock up in yuh hotel room, like ah lil scared baby boy, people probably take yuh around on ah tourist guide bus, tuh may be 2 or 3 places and yuh hop back on yuh flight and go home, and yuh want yuh come here and rate dem, man doh f**k we up nah. De Argentine youth, de Jamaican breddah, another youth from Chile and Supa, we hit de streets like some real rude bois, and de same crew also hit de streets a couple times at night fuh a lil night life, so meh boi I've tasted the raw life in Argentina. So go and run up yuh mouth by some body who never travel and know de real deal out dey. Yuh get meh real f*****g mad wid dat, there are young and older folks on de forum that never had the opportunity tuh be in dat country, so why de hell yuh want tuh mislead dem about a very important topic (Racist) like this, de people must know de damn truth man. Fellah is 3 f*****g times ah went there, nice food, beautiful ladies, extremely talented soccer players, but they are f*****g racist. Guess what, the best player and one of the friendliest guys on de touring team is from Argentina, but he came to USA, when he was a lil kid, so he basically (I hope) look at life differently. When we were leaving tuh go there the first time, he told us not tuh be offended, but almost all of Argentina are racist people. He is from there and he could admit that, but yuh want tuh come here wid that shit talk. Look boi, DO SO NAH . HIGHLY BLESSED.
:rotfl: I know dis a serious topic but yuh post had meh rolling dred
I could tell you's a youth man, so I go ease yuh up.
First off, don't assume you know anything about me, cause yuh don't.
You obviously had bad experiences with Argentinians, and I sorry to hear that.
But don't try to tell me what I have experienced is wrong, or your experience some how better than mine or more truly reflects how Argentina really is.
You are entitled to your opinion, and I entitled to mine. :beermug:
Lickslikefire, look around and go back and start from page 1 of this thread, and you would see that even de members and dem dat never travel tuh Argentina, dey know about de racist people they are. Boi wey ever yuh Argentina coach give yuh tuh rub, it look like yuh swallow, cuz yuh damn hook on dem and cah see de light. Anyway doh worry tuh ease up on Supa nah, meh boi bring it on anytime, cuz Supa is ah original and real rude boi, so bother try test meh, member me told yuh dat star . We are big people so do feel no way, ah hope yuh doh go in ah corner and start tuh cry, Supa doh have nothing personal wid yuh (no beef) when is time fuh beef, is time fuh beef, but we are not responsible fuh their behavior in Argentina, but that is how ah does deal wid any matter, ah doh hold back no chat and ah doh take back no chat. Is like this, if ah see yuh tomorrow and yuh hail out Supa, ah go still sit down and beat ah 2 Guinness wid yuh, and deal wid de matter de same way, cuz dat is how big men should be, not act like some lil girl :beermug:. HIGHLY BLESSED.:rotfl: ;D breds yuh killing meh here....
lickslikefire, do me a favour, ask your Argentine friends about racism in Argentina, let me know what they say.
Soon we will be No.1 in the Caribbean again...Cuba has dropped alot in last few months and JA is rightfully behind us... :)
Soon we will be No.1 in the Caribbean again...Cuba has dropped alot in last few months and JA is rightfully behind us... :)
Heh heh. I suspect we wont be hearing many complaints from people here about the stupidity of the FIFA rankings. It all looks to make sense now doesnt it?
Recent losses (2-0 to Switzerland) and (1-1 tie at home to Panama) is to be blamed for Jamaica's 7 points drop. No surprises there. Who's T&T's next opponent?
I place my trust only in the ELO Ratings. ;D But I love FIFA tournaments. ;D
Soon we will be No.1 in the Caribbean again...Cuba has dropped alot in last few months and JA is rightfully behind us... :)
Heh heh. I suspect we wont be hearing many complaints from people here about the stupidity of the FIFA rankings. It all looks to make sense now doesnt it?
Recent losses (2-0 to Switzerland) and (1-1 tie at home to Panama) is to be blamed for Jamaica's 7 points drop. No surprises there. Who's T&T's next opponent?
You are forgetting the upcoming tournament (in may) at the Center of excellence which involves T&T, Mexico and two other teams ;D
thats perfect fifa...keep dem brits below usdey at dey rightfull where dey belong :devil:
;D ;D The unfortunate thing about the FIFA ranking is that the U-17 and U-20 teams of a nation does not help the rankings. And they have no ranking of their own. ???I place my trust only in the ELO Ratings. ;D But I love FIFA tournaments. ;D
The G O L D C U P is a fifa tournament, isn't it? :whistling: ( ;D)
;D ;D The unfortunate thing about the FIFA ranking is that the U-17 and U-20 teams of a nation does not help the rankings. And they have no ranking of their own. ???I place my trust only in the ELO Ratings. ;D But I love FIFA tournaments. ;D
The G O L D C U P is a fifa tournament, isn't it? :whistling: ( ;D)
I just can't get these rankings.
I recalled a prediction I made after the England tour debacle that the Jamaica/Reggae Boyz ranking would be in the 100's by the time Boxhill's reign was over.
Only 3 months left to see if my prediction will come to pass.
mexico deserve to be in top 10.
Dais like falling in a bottomless pit. 25 spots in one month :oCheck out the thrashing the U-20 Reggae Boyz getting from Argentina in their PanAm match now on ESPN Deportes.
Dat go be hard to take. Imagine Guyana at 100 might be looking to pass dem with only 15 points separating them.
I wonder if we go make a big fall sometime...I hope not but we eh have nothing to predict when we scheduled to lose points from old matches. I sure the US have something in place already and might even schedule matches taking that into consideration. Allyuh programmers need to fix we up with something.
Brazil take over the #1 spot.Yaaay Brasil! Yaaay Mexico!
Check out the thrashing the U-20 Reggae Boyz getting from Argentina in their PanAm match now on ESPN Deportes.
Check out the thrashing the U-20 Reggae Boyz getting from Argentina in their PanAm match now on ESPN Deportes.
Check out the thrashing the U-20 Reggae Boyz getting from Argentina in their PanAm match now on ESPN Deportes.
That is a very good result. I wonder how much points you get for it.
This is not a result for Boxhill in as so much a moral victory for the Young Boyz and Coach Downsell who did not get the time allowed for preparations for the game.Check out the thrashing the U-20 Reggae Boyz getting from Argentina in their PanAm match now on ESPN Deportes.
So Boxhill does get all de blame when results are bad.
Who gets credit for a good result?
Not sure. But the Young Boyz are still getting a lot of good preparation against some top young teams.Check out the thrashing the U-20 Reggae Boyz getting from Argentina in their PanAm match now on ESPN Deportes.
That is a very good result. I wonder how much points you get for it.
So from this point onward. There is nowhere to go but UP. ;D ;D
Boxhill got his four year term like any other JFF President. He has failed to qualify any of the Reggae Boyz and Girlz unit for their respective World Cups.So from this point onward. There is nowhere to go but UP. ;D ;D
Dais what Boxhill plan was all along. I trust u don't doubt him anymore.
check this out...T&T is now 63rd overall...Iraq and South Africa right around us
didnt we draw with Iraq a couple yrs ago in England? (know it mighta been a weaker iraq side cause of their situation...Sadaam was still alive etc...)
anyways...the link showin we was like 87th in January 07...now we 63rd..thas a serious jump...
but unless i suffering from short term memory..what games we play and win since then that push us up so?
only thing i could think of is digicel cup...and is not no big sides in
that..
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=tri/ranking/gender=m/index.html
note that we reached as high as 25th!!!!!!!!!! study dat
and here r the full rankings
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html
The present FIFA rankings will not stop Jamaican footballers from getiing permits to play in England since their FA utilizes a different ranking system.
You know anytime someone posts the FIFA Rankings, there are always people who cry it down as being insignificant and largely inaccurate.
However, I think the recently publicised difficulties in our guys securing work permits shows the importance of staying at or above 70th place in the world.
It would be interesting to note what's the situation with JA footballers trying to get work permits in UK, as their 95th place does not assist them in any way.
The present FIFA rankings will not stop Jamaican footballers from getiing permits to play in England since their FA utilizes a different ranking system.
You know anytime someone posts the FIFA Rankings, there are always people who cry it down as being insignificant and largely inaccurate.
However, I think the recently publicised difficulties in our guys securing work permits shows the importance of staying at or above 70th place in the world.
It would be interesting to note what's the situation with JA footballers trying to get work permits in UK, as their 95th place does not assist them in any way.
The present FIFA rankings will not stop Jamaican footballers from getiing permits to play in England since their FA utilizes a different ranking system.
You know anytime someone posts the FIFA Rankings, there are always people who cry it down as being insignificant and largely inaccurate.
However, I think the recently publicised difficulties in our guys securing work permits shows the importance of staying at or above 70th place in the world.
It would be interesting to note what's the situation with JA footballers trying to get work permits in UK, as their 95th place does not assist them in any way.
That's right. And the US team is made up of immigrants. ;DThe present FIFA rankings will not stop Jamaican footballers from getiing permits to play in England since their FA utilizes a different ranking system.
You know anytime someone posts the FIFA Rankings, there are always people who cry it down as being insignificant and largely inaccurate.
However, I think the recently publicised difficulties in our guys securing work permits shows the importance of staying at or above 70th place in the world.
It would be interesting to note what's the situation with JA footballers trying to get work permits in UK, as their 95th place does not assist them in any way.
Most Jamaican footballers are from the U.K anyways :heehee:
Sorry. I cannot elaborate. That's just how they explained in a nutshell when Jamaica fell to 73 in the FIFA rankings about 2 years ago. ???The present FIFA rankings will not stop Jamaican footballers from getiing permits to play in England since their FA utilizes a different ranking system.
You know anytime someone posts the FIFA Rankings, there are always people who cry it down as being insignificant and largely inaccurate.
However, I think the recently publicised difficulties in our guys securing work permits shows the importance of staying at or above 70th place in the world.
It would be interesting to note what's the situation with JA footballers trying to get work permits in UK, as their 95th place does not assist them in any way.
If this is the case, I'm assuming that they use the same one that they use to judge our players right? If that is the case can you please elaborate cos quite a few people here misguided
NONSENSE.The present FIFA rankings will not stop Jamaican footballers from getiing permits to play in England since their FA utilizes a different ranking system.
You know anytime someone posts the FIFA Rankings, there are always people who cry it down as being insignificant and largely inaccurate.
However, I think the recently publicised difficulties in our guys securing work permits shows the importance of staying at or above 70th place in the world.
It would be interesting to note what's the situation with JA footballers trying to get work permits in UK, as their 95th place does not assist them in any way.
Sorry. I cannot elaborate. That's just how they explained in a nutshell when Jamaica fell to 73 in the FIFA rankings about 2 years ago. ???
I think I'm going to believe the FA official that made the statement on BBC World News at the time rather that old rules that can be interpretted.NONSENSE.The present FIFA rankings will not stop Jamaican footballers from getiing permits to play in England since their FA utilizes a different ranking system.
You know anytime someone posts the FIFA Rankings, there are always people who cry it down as being insignificant and largely inaccurate.
However, I think the recently publicised difficulties in our guys securing work permits shows the importance of staying at or above 70th place in the world.
It would be interesting to note what's the situation with JA footballers trying to get work permits in UK, as their 95th place does not assist them in any way.
I will post it again for the 4th time on this forum..
To be eligible for a work permit:
A player must have played for his country in at least 75% of its competitive ‘A’ team matches he was available for selection, during the two years preceding the date of the application; and,
The player’s country must be at or above 70th place in the official FIFA world rankings when averaged over the two years preceding the date of the application.
http://www.workingintheuk.gov.uk/working_in_the_uk/en/homepage/work_permits0/applying_for_a_work/sports_and_entertainers/football_players.html
Now, notwithstanding what I’ve said above, we all know that certain players can and do get around these restrictions, with the benefit of various assurances given by national and club coaches in the appeal hearings when a player does not satisfy the criteria.
Jamaica going for a century!!
Jamaica going for a century!!
TT go be heading for century too if they don't get their act together and play some meanngful games.
true dat.Jamaica going for a century!!
TT go be heading for century too if they don't get their act together and play some meanngful games.
Jamaica going for a century!!
TT go be heading for century too if they don't get their act together and play some meanngful games.
:applause: :applause: :applause: Boxhill out of the JFF. And like I predicted he would have Jamaica ranking in the 90s or 100 by the time his four years is up.
costa rica below honduras and panama, not mention cuba... thats a joke.. :rotfl: also..Its an objective measure of results achieved with known weighting for games played. Its not an opinion.
God is de BOSS...
Men just vex Vincy ahead of us.
All the other teams above us have been active playing friendly matches while we play one game vs El Salvador.
But if anybody could tell me who vincy play to jump up 24 places it will be appreciated.
Unless it happens to also endorse your personal estimation of the teams...then the rankings mean everything.
These rankings doh mean jackshit !!!
Men just vex Vincy ahead of us.
All the other teams above us have been active playing friendly matches while we play one game vs El Salvador.
But if anybody could tell me who vincy play to jump up 24 places it will be appreciated.
In other sports, individuals maintain rankings based on the Elo algorithm. These are usually unofficial, not endorsed by the sport's governing body. The World Football Elo Ratings rank national teams in men's football (soccer). Jeff Sagarin publishes team rankings for American college football and basketball, with "Elo chess" being one of the two rankings he presents. In 2006, Elo ratings were adapted for Major League Baseball teams by Nate Silver of Baseball Prospectus.[13] Based on this adaptation, Baseball Prospectus also makes Elo-based Monte Carlo simulations of the odds of whether teams will make the playoffs.[14] One of the few Elo-based rankings endorsed by a sport's governing body is the FIFA Women's World Rankings, based on a simplified version of the Elo algorithm, which FIFA uses as its official ranking system for national teams in women's football (soccer).
But if anybody could tell me who vincy play to jump up 24 places it will be appreciated.
please stop posting these rankings they are use less
please stop posting these rankings they are use less
If utility was a criteria for posting anything on this board, 98% of our members would be deleted
But if anybody could tell me who vincy play to jump up 24 places it will be appreciated.
When the results came out in October however, certain of their year y stats (october 2005-october 2006) were pushed back to year y - 1 (and most notably their 2 digicel cup qualifier wins over Jamaica and St. Lucia). Having now 'played' 6 matches during that period, and having gained 2 supplementary competitive (2.5 multiplier) wins in the period, their points gained increased by about 120 on just that period alone. Their subsequent points lost in the other years didn't do enough to devaluate this increase.
hmmm
if dese rankings are meaningless .. .then how do we compare teams? do we only rely on de standings in international tournaments?
until a superior system is created, dese rankings still paint de best picture , imperfect as dey may be ..
;D. It's really Jamaica's fault. Because as Midnight said: SVG beat Jamaica 2 times in the Digicel qualifiers. :rotfl: :rotfl:But if anybody could tell me who vincy play to jump up 24 places it will be appreciated.
When the results came out in October however, certain of their year y stats (october 2005-october 2006) were pushed back to year y - 1 (and most notably their 2 digicel cup qualifier wins over Jamaica and St. Lucia). Having now 'played' 6 matches during that period, and having gained 2 supplementary competitive (2.5 multiplier) wins in the period, their points gained increased by about 120 on just that period alone. Their subsequent points lost in the other years didn't do enough to devaluate this increase.
I knew it :idea: :idea: :idea: It's Jamaica's fault ( :heehee:)
hmmm
if dese rankings are meaningless .. .then how do we compare teams? do we only rely on de standings in international tournaments?
until a superior system is created, dese rankings still paint de best picture , imperfect as dey may be ..
By head to head competetion...how much time mexico cut we arse...when last we beat usa or how much time we beat up antigua,grenada,st vincent... dias how. ;)
Although we love to bash these rankings, they do have significant implications in addition to getting work permits for the UK.
The draw for the WC qualifiers is 2 days away and rankings are used...
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/preldraw/2010%5ffwc%5fpreliminary%5fdrawinformation%5fnorth%5fcentral%5famerica%5fcaribbean%5fe%5f28448.pdf
We will enter the competition in the second stage.
Although we love to bash these rankings, they do have significant implications in addition to getting work permits for the UK.
The draw for the WC qualifiers is 2 days away and rankings are used...
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/preldraw/2010%5ffwc%5fpreliminary%5fdrawinformation%5fnorth%5fcentral%5famerica%5fcaribbean%5fe%5f28448.pdf
We will enter the competition in the second stage.
They used May's rankings...it was set quite a while ago
STAGE ONE
The 23 PMAs ranked 13 to 35 constitute the 23 Stage One teams.
The stage consists of 12 sub-groups played as 11 home-and-away series and one bye, St. Vincent and the
Grenadines.
The winners and St. Vincent and the Grenadines advance to Stage Two and meet the highest ranked teams in their respective groups.
So let me get this straight...El Salvador lost to Jamaica and jumped 7 places up...while Jamaica lost 1 place down. :rotfl:
So let me get this straight...El Salvador lost to Jamaica and jumped 7 places up...while Jamaica lost 1 place down. :rotfl:
Kaka hole, maybe El Salvador played other games and won too, you won two game vs El Salvador and Guatemala when you won those games was JAM under them in the FIFA ranking ? because sometime if you play a weaker team in the FIFA ranking you dont normaly move up.
This FIFA ranking thing is bogus anyways....
So let me get this straight...El Salvador lost to Jamaica and jumped 7 places up...while Jamaica lost 1 place down. :rotfl:
Kaka hole, maybe El Salvador played other games and won too, you won two game vs El Salvador and Guatemala when you won those games was JAM under them in the FIFA ranking ? because sometime if you play a weaker team in the FIFA ranking you dont normaly move up.
This FIFA ranking thing is bogus anyways....
I believe Jamaica was the last game el Salvador played. But anyway...the rankings are what they are.
So let me get this straight...El Salvador lost to Jamaica and jumped 7 places up...while Jamaica lost 1 place down. :rotfl:Correction. Jamaica moved up 1 place from 98 to 97.
now that is progress.So let me get this straight...El Salvador lost to Jamaica and jumped 7 places up...while Jamaica lost 1 place down. :rotfl:Correction. Jamaica moved up 1 place from 98 to 97.
Slowly, but surely. Horace Burrell and Rene Simones will restore the Reggae Boyz back to their rightful place in CONCACAF.now that is progress.So let me get this straight...El Salvador lost to Jamaica and jumped 7 places up...while Jamaica lost 1 place down. :rotfl:Correction. Jamaica moved up 1 place from 98 to 97.
Slowly, but surely. Horace Burrell and Rene Simones will restore the Reggae Boyz back to their rightful place in CONCACAF.now that is progress.So let me get this straight...El Salvador lost to Jamaica and jumped 7 places up...while Jamaica lost 1 place down. :rotfl:Correction. Jamaica moved up 1 place from 98 to 97.
16 Mexico -1
26 USA - 6
50 Honduras +4
58 Canada - 2
63 Panama +1
71 Costa Rica -2
88 Cuba -17
90 Jamaica +8
94 Guatemala +11
98 Trinidad & Tobago -20
100 Haiti -27
CONCACAF. (http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=23914&rank=166)
International. (http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=0&rank=166)
16 Mexico -1
26 USA - 6
50 Honduras +4
58 Canada - 2
63 Panama +1
71 Costa Rica -2
88 Cuba -17
90 Jamaica +8
94 Guatemala +11
98 Trinidad & Tobago -20
100 Haiti -27
CONCACAF. (http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=23914&rank=166)
International. (http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=0&rank=166)
guatemala moves up 11 places and got a 5-0 cut ass ::)
I hope jack smiling now... look where we reach
is only ah matter of time until we hit triple digits. :-[Ah hearing a slow hand clap ..... Things have just gotten worse for Cornell >:(
But, ??? are the true Kings rising, while the Pretenders fall.
neither did our game against Guadeloupe. Probably lost points cuz of matches played getting devalued. At the same time thats a hell of a drop. African Nations Cup probably might have factored in as well.
Are you sure that T&T is ready to face this resurgent Reggae Boyz squad. In the words of some of your countrymen when Jamaica's was plummeting under Brainless Boxhill's tenure: "Jamaica a s..t team. Better to play some other Caribbean teams.But, ??? are the true Kings rising, while the Pretenders fall.
JA2099.....doh worry when you blaze all yuh up in "de Office" on March 26th, we goh know who Pretending and who is Kings....idiot...
JA2099, seeing as you like to compare so much.??? I need you to elaborate.
when you going and construct a list of Jamaica football accomplishments for us to compare with the one posted here??
How de song does go again? "We reach, tell dem we reach."eh?
We have sunk to a new low as far as our ranking is concerned.. Dis is our lowest FIFA ranking ever. Prior to now, our lowest ranking was 95, which occurred in April 1994.
and some say that you do not have a sense of humour :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:JA2099, seeing as you like to compare so much.??? I need you to elaborate.
when you going and construct a list of Jamaica football accomplishments for us to compare with the one posted here??
JA2099, seeing as you like to compare so much.??? I need you to elaborate.
when you going and construct a list of Jamaica football accomplishments for us to compare with the one posted here??
Have no fear JA's 5-0 cutarse awaits ... look for them to plummet ... buh in trute ah not sure/doh think these rankings reflect games played on February 6.
Sorry! But that thread is rather anti-climatic for me. And if you noticed I just returned to this forum yesterday which means I don't have the time.JA2099, seeing as you like to compare so much.??? I need you to elaborate.
when you going and construct a list of Jamaica football accomplishments for us to compare with the one posted here??
Peruse this thread..
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=33840.0
then come up with the equivalent for Jamaica..
educate us please.
Have no fear JA's 5-0 cutarse awaits ... look for them to plummet ... buh in trute ah not sure/doh think these rankings reflect games played on February 6.
LOL. You are correct, the Feb 6 games have not been factored in. Those will come into play next month.
Sorry! But that thread is rather anti-climatic for me. And if you noticed I just returned to this forum yesterday which means I don't have the time.JA2099, seeing as you like to compare so much.??? I need you to elaborate.
when you going and construct a list of Jamaica football accomplishments for us to compare with the one posted here??
Peruse this thread..
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=33840.0
then come up with the equivalent for Jamaica..
educate us please.
I have to work on my daughters school tuition.
But how many of those games were a Jamaica vs T&T clash? Those stats would be more important. Wouldn't they?
[Sorry! But that thread is rather anti-climatic for me. And if you noticed I just returned to this forum yesterday which means I don't have the time.
If you take time to list Jamaica's football accomplishments using the same format, I'm sure you would be left with MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME to work on your daughter's school tuition. :rotfl:woop wap :devil: :devil:
JA2099, seeing as you like to compare so much.??? I need you to elaborate.
when you going and construct a list of Jamaica football accomplishments for us to compare with the one posted here??
Peruse this thread..
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=33840.0
then come up with the equivalent for Jamaica..
educate us please.
If you take time to list Jamaica's football accomplishments using the same format, I'm sure you would be left with MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME to work on your daughter's school tuition. :rotfl:woop wap :devil: :devil:
nice one Omar ;D
If you take time to list Jamaica's football accomplishments using the same format, I'm sure you would be left with MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME to work on your daughter's school tuition. :rotfl:woop wap :devil: :devil:
nice one Omar ;D
LOL. there is a Trini poster on the RBZ site that constantly give us a list of eligible players in the UK with Jamaican lineage...maybe we can get him to supply a list of all the players Jamaica has exported to various leagues in the world. As of right now, I can tell you there is no less than 20 that left Jamaica in the past 5 years....No need to go back to 1910.
98? Wow, that's sad.dais ok man
98? Wow, that's sad.
SIX runs..........bowler change :D :D98? Wow, that's sad.
We not at 103 yet, but now we know how all yuh was feeling. ;)
98? Wow, that's sad.
We not at 103 yet, but now we know how all yuh was feeling. ;)
SIX runs..........bowler change :D :D98? Wow, that's sad.
We not at 103 yet, but now we know how all yuh was feeling. ;)
If you take time to list Jamaica's football accomplishments using the same format, I'm sure you would be left with MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME to work on your daughter's school tuition. :rotfl:woop wap :devil: :devil:
nice one Omar ;D
LOL. there is a Trini poster on the RBZ site that constantly give us a list of eligible players in the UK with Jamaican lineage...maybe we can get him to supply a list of all the players Jamaica has exported to various leagues in the world. As of right now, I can tell you there is no less than 20 that left Jamaica in the past 5 years....No need to go back to 1910.
i think you need to revisit the definitions of 'export' and 'import'
98? Wow, that's sad.
We not at 103 yet, but now we know how all yuh was feeling. ;)
Considering that you have Jamaica next month....its just a matter of timebefore you hit 113 ;)
Listing and comparing Jamaica's accomplishments against T&T holds more interest for me.Sorry! But that thread is rather anti-climatic for me. And if you noticed I just returned to this forum yesterday which means I don't have the time.JA2099, seeing as you like to compare so much.??? I need you to elaborate.
when you going and construct a list of Jamaica football accomplishments for us to compare with the one posted here??
Peruse this thread..
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=33840.0
then come up with the equivalent for Jamaica..
educate us please.
I have to work on my daughters school tuition.
But how many of those games were a Jamaica vs T&T clash? Those stats would be more important. Wouldn't they?
why am i not surprised?
Fear not Ja2099.
If you take time to list Jamaica's football accomplishments using the same format, I'm sure you would be left with MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME to work on your daughter's school tuition.
:rotfl:
oh gaumSIX runs..........bowler change :D :D98? Wow, that's sad.
We not at 103 yet, but now we know how all yuh was feeling. ;)
you dropped 20 places in one month....aftre losing to Jamaica, you could well drop another 20 places. where does that leave you? :)
Don't T&T have to beat El Salvador first. ;Doh gaumSIX runs..........bowler change :D :D98? Wow, that's sad.
We not at 103 yet, but now we know how all yuh was feeling. ;)
you dropped 20 places in one month....aftre losing to Jamaica, you could well drop another 20 places. where does that leave you? :)
you an all know dat ent happening....not two months in a row....yard is we rebound :devil:
de 21st is ah warmup for de REAL ting on the 26th ;)Don't T&T have to beat El Salvador first. ;Doh gaumSIX runs..........bowler change :D :D98? Wow, that's sad.
We not at 103 yet, but now we know how all yuh was feeling. ;)
you dropped 20 places in one month....aftre losing to Jamaica, you could well drop another 20 places. where does that leave you? :)
you an all know dat ent happening....not two months in a row....yard is we rebound :devil:
dais de warmup for de REAL ting on the 26th ;)Don't T&T have to beat El Salvador first. ;Doh gaumSIX runs..........bowler change :D :D98? Wow, that's sad.
We not at 103 yet, but now we know how all yuh was feeling. ;)
you dropped 20 places in one month....aftre losing to Jamaica, you could well drop another 20 places. where does that leave you? :)
you an all know dat ent happening....not two months in a row....yard is we rebound :devil:
ya betta get allya Office Supplies ready ehdais de warmup for de REAL ting on the 26th ;)Don't T&T have to beat El Salvador first. ;Doh gaumSIX runs..........bowler change :D :D98? Wow, that's sad.
We not at 103 yet, but now we know how all yuh was feeling. ;)
you dropped 20 places in one month....aftre losing to Jamaica, you could well drop another 20 places. where does that leave you? :)
you an all know dat ent happening....not two months in a row....yard is we rebound :devil:
Explain how u will warm up for a beating? You goin to let El Salvador win 3-0 so u can get a feel of how the 26th will be?
Keep pressing on Warriors! Is qualification that matters!
Hmmm not surprising that yardies will come to a Trini board and disrespect TrinisAre you sure it's us Yardies that are disrespectful. Or FIFA for naming T&T, Haiti and Nigeria as the worse movers. :angel:
I"m sure its you and ur Bitch Ass crew that consistently come over here to disrespect us!..Now am not into the back and forth chat with you and ur infant gang, so keep that in mind because I know you always have a dumb ass comeback for your Bitch Ass attitude..Hmmm not surprising that yardies will come to a Trini board and disrespect TrinisAre you sure it's us Yardies that are disrespectful. Or FIFA for naming T&T, Haiti and Nigeria as the worse movers. :angel:
Bitch Ass attitude or pure cofidence. ;DI"m sure its you and ur Bitch Ass crew that consistently come over here to disrespect us!..Now am not into the back and forth chat with you and ur infant gang, so keep that in mind because I know you always have a dumb ass comeback for your Bitch Ass attitude..Hmmm not surprising that yardies will come to a Trini board and disrespect TrinisAre you sure it's us Yardies that are disrespectful. Or FIFA for naming T&T, Haiti and Nigeria as the worse movers. :angel:
Bitch Ass attitude or pure cofidence. ;DI eagerly await your excuse after the El Savador game.Quote
Glad to see you're regaining it, Nostradamass. Ah hope yuh dig up a nice one of Jamaica 2099 excuses for after the game... ::)
Bitch Ass attitude or pure cofidence. ;DI eagerly await your excuse after the El Savador game.Quote
Glad to see you're regaining it, Nostradamass. Ah hope yuh dig up a nice one of Jamaica 2099 excuses for after the game... ::)
I glad we still have a ranking:rotfl:
Check where Honduras reach.
That ranking is so bloody rubbish...we could beat Etheopia and Libya combined with our first team(with all available players),they should stop leading people astray.
Check where Honduras reach.
Check where we reach..... :'(
That ranking is so bloody rubbish...we could beat Etheopia and Libya combined with our first team(with all available players),they should stop leading people astray.
That ranking is so bloody rubbish...we could beat Etheopia and Libya combined with our first team(with all available players),they should stop leading people astray.
Check where Honduras reach.
Even Salaslie Aye (sp) and them knocking better ball than we.
Maybe we can get the bobo shantee them in trinidad to pray for Jack and the TTFF.
But all Joke aside some Ethopians that I used to go to school with was some bad ballers,
Plently drama in the country so maybe the football getting fight down but in the past they was tops in africa.
I was thinking Iraq...they won the Asian cup...and are known to be the home of the Tigris and Euphrates...
I was thinking Iraq...they won the Asian cup...and are known to be the home of the Tigris and Euphrates...
yeah let dem come and play against de land of de Caura and de Caroni
Check de current..like yuh feel is river lime or wha?
Let me throw out tis idea: To level out the rankings and to incite some international rivalries. Do you think there would be more merit and more fan support if world cup qualifications were based on FIFA rankings?
Given that, the top 100 nations would begin a world wide home and away playoffs based on ranking in order to make it into the top 5;. then top 25 then top 15 . This would mean that in the last two years leading up to WC, teams will begin the quest playing against international competition for a 'true' FIFA ranking based on the level and quality of the opposition based on international seeding.
So instead of regional representatives, you may truly get some of the best teams on the big stage. FIFA ranking would then take on a different meaning and instead ah we only fighting up with Jamaica for Caribbean supremacy, we might have to being to set our targets higher given the varied international oppositions.
This will also give fans an opportunity to witness different teams from various regions of the world and to allow for more international competitions.
not a bad idea in hind sight...
Alluyh eh see Bermuda up 21
I doh ever really even take on the FIFA rankings anymore...actually to think of it never!
no worries, it only there for the sake of it :angel:
Congrats Bermuda! We are proud of you, you've worked very hard, but still a way's to go! (I know this is a Soca Warriors forum but I had to get that in) ;D
Congrats Bermuda! We are proud of you, you've worked very hard, but still a way's to go! (I know this is a Soca Warriors forum but I had to get that in) ;D
All yuh eh set up all yuh own forum to drown yuh sorrows on yet?? :devil: wha yuh waiting for??
Congrats Bermuda! We are proud of you, you've worked very hard, but still a way's to go! (I know this is a Soca Warriors forum but I had to get that in) ;D
All yuh eh set up all yuh own forum to drown yuh sorrows on yet?? :devil: wha yuh waiting for??
Umm, we didn't fall 15 points we gained 21, nothing to be sorry about there. They worked very hard, even before they faced Trinidad.
I just on here to "Spread the Love" ;D
All will be restored in 6 months time.
By next month even after our 5 friendly games and 2 qualifiers we could well be back into 70th position.
So now I understand that Centennial means the year T&T are ranked in the 100's:D :D
At least we making improvements and that's important.
Still no where close to 70....steups
Ah wonder if the nit pickin would continue, since nuff ah dem doh rate the coach.At least we making improvements and that's important.
Still no where close to 70....steups
Beat Guyana who ranked in the 100's and move up 10 points, so it stands to reason just play games and win. Guyana loss and still move up 4, so maybe it don't stand to reason :-\
Glad to see we movin back up cause dat three figure rankin really look bad fuh we...we is ah whey better footballin nation dan dat...anybody remember our highest rank..ent it was like 32 or something?
Anyways i hope we keep improvin not only in the rankin but on the field.
Beat Guyana who ranked in the 100's and move up 10 points, so it stands to reason just play games and win. Guyana loss and still move up 4, so maybe it don't stand to reason :-\
It does stand to reason... while you don't lose or gain points for a loss... points awarded four years ago will drop off...
Therefore you can move up and down relative to other teams even though you ent gaining points or inactive in the current period
Beat Guyana who ranked in the 100's and move up 10 points, so it stands to reason just play games and win. Guyana loss and still move up 4, so maybe it don't stand to reason :-\
It does stand to reason... while you don't lose or gain points for a loss... points awarded four years ago will drop off...
Therefore you can move up and down relative to other teams even though you ent gaining points or inactive in the current period
So help me to understand. Pretty soon all the points gained four years ago (2004 say when T&T was beating teams in Digicel & WCQ) will drop off and more than likely we will slip even further down.
Concacaf as a whole looking bad...
2 teams in the top 50.
Beat Guyana who ranked in the 100's and move up 10 points, so it stands to reason just play games and win. Guyana loss and still move up 4, so maybe it don't stand to reason :-\
Beat Guyana who ranked in the 100's and move up 10 points, so it stands to reason just play games and win. Guyana loss and still move up 4, so maybe it don't stand to reason :-\
These rankings are indeed weird. Ja, played El Salvador to a tie....before that, we hammred Bahamas 13-0 agregate...yet still we slipped 14 places down...Who has Guyana beaten in recent time? they gained all of 4 spots!
And to think that FIFA uses this system as a basis for granting worlk permits.
These rankings are indeed weird. Ja, played El Salvador to a tie....before that, we hammred Bahamas 13-0 agregate...yet still we slipped 14 places down...Who has Guyana beaten in recent time? they gained all of 4 spots!
And to think that FIFA uses this system as a basis for granting worlk permits.
These rankings are indeed weird. Ja, played El Salvador to a tie....before that, we hammred Bahamas 13-0 agregate...yet still we slipped 14 places down...Who has Guyana beaten in recent time? they gained all of 4 spots!
And to think that FIFA uses this system as a basis for granting worlk permits.
Hi RF,
Long time no chat! Glad to see you are hopefully fit & well and ready to receive some licks when our teams next meet (despite our coach)!
Btw your JA squad looks seriously strong for the Olympics!
Do you reckon you can finally emulate T&T and win the 100m gold which is the most coverted medal of any Olympic games since the Olympics began?! ;D
Anyway this is a football forum & I don't want to go off topic so you don't have to answer & get yourself in trouble! :angel:
Socapro
These rankings are indeed weird. Ja, played El Salvador to a tie....before that, we hammred Bahamas 13-0 agregate...yet still we slipped 14 places down...Who has Guyana beaten in recent time? they gained all of 4 spots!
And to think that FIFA uses this system as a basis for granting worlk permits.
Hi RF,
Long time no chat! Glad to see you are hopefully fit & well and ready to receive some licks when our teams next meet (despite our coach)!
Btw your JA squad looks seriously strong for the Olympics!
Do you reckon you can finally emulate T&T and win the 100m gold which is the most coverted medal of any Olympic games since the Olympics began?! ;D
Anyway this is a football forum & I don't want to go off topic so you don't have to answer & get yourself in trouble! :angel:
Socapro
When did T&T win Olympic Gold? Who did it? Dont recall that happening. Well, when you consider that donovan Bailey and Ben Johnson Of Canada are born and grwon Jamaican....we have won the gold "indirectly" if yo ufeel me.
BTW, we just played each other twice irecently (football). Still waiting for you to beat us.
Why are we putting stock in those rankings. In the finali analysis, the real rankings is on the field of play, not guesstimation from some coke drinking official in Switzerland.
These rankings are indeed weird. Ja, played El Salvador to a tie....before that, we hammred Bahamas 13-0 agregate...yet still we slipped 14 places down...Who has Guyana beaten in recent time? they gained all of 4 spots!
And to think that FIFA uses this system as a basis for granting worlk permits.
Hi RF,
Long time no chat! Glad to see you are hopefully fit & well and ready to receive some licks when our teams next meet (despite our coach)!
Btw your JA squad looks seriously strong for the Olympics!
Do you reckon you can finally emulate T&T and win the 100m gold which is the most coverted medal of any Olympic games since the Olympics began?! ;D
Anyway this is a football forum & I don't want to go off topic so you don't have to answer & get yourself in trouble! :angel:
Socapro
When did T&T win Olympic Gold? Who did it? Dont recall that happening. Well, when you consider that donovan Bailey and Ben Johnson Of Canada are born and grwon Jamaican....we have won the gold "indirectly" if yo ufeel me.
BTW, we just played each other twice irecently (football). Still waiting for you to beat us.
These rankings are indeed weird. Ja, played El Salvador to a tie....before that, we hammred Bahamas 13-0 agregate...yet still we slipped 14 places down...Who has Guyana beaten in recent time? they gained all of 4 spots!
And to think that FIFA uses this system as a basis for granting worlk permits.
Hi RF,
Long time no chat! Glad to see you are hopefully fit & well and ready to receive some licks when our teams next meet (despite our coach)!
Btw your JA squad looks seriously strong for the Olympics!
Do you reckon you can finally emulate T&T and win the 100m gold which is the most coverted medal of any Olympic games since the Olympics began?! ;D
Anyway this is a football forum & I don't want to go off topic so you don't have to answer & get yourself in trouble! :angel:
Socapro
When did T&T win Olympic Gold? Who did it? Dont recall that happening. Well, when you consider that donovan Bailey and Ben Johnson Of Canada are born and grwon Jamaican....we have won the gold "indirectly" if yo ufeel me.
BTW, we just played each other twice irecently (football). Still waiting for you to beat us.
These rankings are indeed weird. Ja, played El Salvador to a tie....before that, we hammred Bahamas 13-0 agregate...yet still we slipped 14 places down...Who has Guyana beaten in recent time? they gained all of 4 spots!
And to think that FIFA uses this system as a basis for granting worlk permits.
Hi RF,
Long time no chat! Glad to see you are hopefully fit & well and ready to receive some licks when our teams next meet (despite our coach)!
Btw your JA squad looks seriously strong for the Olympics!
Do you reckon you can finally emulate T&T and win the 100m gold which is the most coverted medal of any Olympic games since the Olympics began?! ;D
Anyway this is a football forum & I don't want to go off topic so you don't have to answer & get yourself in trouble! :angel:
Socapro
When did T&T win Olympic Gold? Who did it? Dont recall that happening. Well, when you consider that donovan Bailey and Ben Johnson Of Canada are born and grwon Jamaican....we have won the gold "indirectly" if yo ufeel me.
BTW, we just played each other twice irecently (football). Still waiting for you to beat us.
OH Gosh ah have to laugh at this again :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ah weak!
Hasely Crawrford...right! wow. I think if he had been Jamaican he would have been much more of a houshold name not only in Ja but around the world.
Hasely Crawrford...right! wow. I think if he had been Jamaican he would have been much more of a houshold name not only in Ja but around the world.
Hasely Crawrford...right! wow. I think if he had been Jamaican he would have been much more of a houshold name not only in Ja but around the world.
The average Jamaican household in denial so I not surprised.
Don Quarrie knows who his daddy is. :)
On a side note. Guatemala beat Bolivia 3-0 today. IN Bolivia. ???
Hasely Crawrford...right! wow. I think if he had been Jamaican he would have been much more of a houshold name not only in Ja but around the world.
The average Jamaican household in denial so I not surprised.
Don Quarrie knows who his daddy is. :)
heh heh...I could still see the look of anguish on Quarrie face. Crawfie use to lace he with picong before dat race. It hurt....IT STILL HURTING TRUST MIH!!
Doh try dat RF, being Jamaican.......Crawford name burned into yuh memory..bout "who is dat?"
Hasely Crawrford...right! wow. I think if he had been Jamaican he would have been much more of a houshold name not only in Ja but around the world.
The average Jamaican household in denial so I not surprised.
Don Quarrie knows who his daddy is. :)
Unfortunately, you'll be going down 8 places in the October FIFA Ranking (http://www.football-rankings.info/2008/09/fifa-ranking-october-2008-preview-iv.html).
2 posts and you're already the bearer of bad news?
Things slow over on big soccer lol?
Welcome :beermug: .
This is what i like about this forum,when T&T went to one hundred and something on FIFA Rankings all hell broke loose,all kind of remarks was posted about JW,Pacho,Corneals etc,you know how long these rankings were posted i was waiting to hear when someone would say something about it.My thing is i don't mind criticisms of the technical staff or anyone for that matter but be constructive,give credit when and where ever it is due,what beats me it still have those that talking about team going down.
It's not a matter of being proud,the point is why waist down everybody and the whole system when we drop in the rankings if it's nothing to be proud of,regardless to how anyone feels about the rankings it affects the average T&T fan because they like to boast especially if we under Jamaica,Bermuda,Cuba etc etc By the way i feel it's something to feel good about based on what this team has been through,some i'm sure some still questioning why or how we got there.This is what i like about this forum,when T&T went to one hundred and something on FIFA Rankings all hell broke loose,all kind of remarks was posted about JW,Pacho,Corneals etc,you know how long these rankings were posted i was waiting to hear when someone would say something about it.My thing is i don't mind criticisms of the technical staff or anyone for that matter but be constructive,give credit when and where ever it is due,what beats me it still have those that talking about team going down.
Coops,
There was just something fittingly ironic about us hitting our lowest ever ranking (under 100) in our centennial year during the nonsense that has passed for football administration in the last year and a half.
Anyone who takes the FIFA ranking seriously i.e. who doesn't take it seriously knows exactly how random it is outside of the top 60 and probably figured out that it would rise as soon as the semi final qualifiers started, provided we got points out of the games we were supposed to.
All that said 81st...and soon to be 89th isn't exactly anything to be proud off - particularly in light of the work permit situation.
Bălţi, Moldova?2 posts and you're already the bearer of bad news?Just another quiet day at the office :)
Things slow over on big soccer lol?
Welcome :beermug: .
Thanks! :cheers:
Bălţi, Moldova?
CoolBălţi, Moldova?
Go west a little bit. Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=47%C2%B09%2732.29%22N+27%C2%B035%2727.24%22E&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16).
It's not a matter of being proud,the point is why waist down everybody and the whole system when we drop in the rankings if it's nothing to be proud of,regardless to how anyone feels about the rankings it affects the average T&T fan because they like to boast especially if we under Jamaica,Bermuda,Cuba etc etc By the way i feel it's something to feel good about based on what this team has been through,some i'm sure some still questioning why or how we got there.This is what i like about this forum,when T&T went to one hundred and something on FIFA Rankings all hell broke loose,all kind of remarks was posted about JW,Pacho,Corneals etc,you know how long these rankings were posted i was waiting to hear when someone would say something about it.My thing is i don't mind criticisms of the technical staff or anyone for that matter but be constructive,give credit when and where ever it is due,what beats me it still have those that talking about team going down.
Coops,
There was just something fittingly ironic about us hitting our lowest ever ranking (under 100) in our centennial year during the nonsense that has passed for football administration in the last year and a half.
Anyone who takes the FIFA ranking seriously i.e. who doesn't take it seriously knows exactly how random it is outside of the top 60 and probably figured out that it would rise as soon as the semi final qualifiers started, provided we got points out of the games we were supposed to.
All that said 81st...and soon to be 89th isn't exactly anything to be proud off - particularly in light of the work permit situation.
I think FIFA needs to get rid of this ranking system because it is a joke. FIFA rankings should not be used for anything football related like work permits or world cup qualifying seedings. Men on hear does bash de system when we drop low in de rankings then celebrate when we move up.
Look at where El Salvador is ranked and where Haiti is ranked. But Haiti was destroyed by El Salvador last month in world cup qualifying.
I think FIFA needs to get rid of this ranking system because it is a joke. FIFA rankings should not be used for anything football related like work permits or world cup qualifying seedings. Men on hear does bash de system when we drop low in de rankings then celebrate when we move up.
Look at where El Salvador is ranked and where Haiti is ranked. But Haiti was destroyed by El Salvador last month in world cup qualifying.
And El Salvador will presumably gain points for that victory.
There's a reason why the games are played right?
Don't get me wrong guys,agreed the rankings might be meaningless but if you notice every time it's posted we are going through the same old talk,it has an effect on countries(teams/players),where/how you are seeded in tournaments,how it affects players contracts etc etc it's something we just can't disregard.I think FIFA needs to get rid of this ranking system because it is a joke. FIFA rankings should not be used for anything football related like work permits or world cup qualifying seedings. Men on hear does bash de system when we drop low in de rankings then celebrate when we move up.
Look at where El Salvador is ranked and where Haiti is ranked. But Haiti was destroyed by El Salvador last month in world cup qualifying.
And El Salvador will presumably gain points for that victory.
There's a reason why the games are played right?
So then you agree with me that the rankings are meaningless
I think FIFA needs to get rid of this ranking system because it is a joke. FIFA rankings should not be used for anything football related like work permits or world cup qualifying seedings. Men on hear does bash de system when we drop low in de rankings then celebrate when we move up.
Look at where El Salvador is ranked and where Haiti is ranked. But Haiti was destroyed by El Salvador last month in world cup qualifying.
Allyuh need to give dem shit rankings ah rest. They mean nothing.
I ent seeing Jamaica? ??? 8)
If a players is good they will come for him. Everybody put too much into this ranking crap.
Last Updated 12 Nov 2008Next Release 17 Dec 2008Ranking Zonal Ranking Concacaf
Team Pts
Nov 08 +/- Ranking
Oct 08 +/- Pts
24 1 USA 834 -3 -27
25 2 Mexico 827 -1 -14
46 3 Honduras 623 4 22
57 4 Costa Rica 542 12 66
73 5 Cuba 460 25 94
78 6 Trinidad and Tobago 443 10 39
81 7 Canada 434 3 19
83 8 Jamaica 421 33 126
89 9 Panama 404 2 19
100 10 Barbados 361 14 61
105 11 Haiti 341 -1 1
108 12 Guatemala 321 -19 -73
109 13 El Salvador 306 11 21
116 14 Guyana 283 2 -7
122 15 St. Vincent and the Grenadines 266 3 5
126 16 Bermuda 251 3 0
129 17 Suriname 239 -21 -72
133 18 Antigua and Barbuda 216 0 -16
139 19 Grenada 199 2 7
141 20 Puerto Rico 180 3 0
155 21 Netherlands Antilles 128 -4 -41
163 22 St. Kitts and Nevis 105 -7 -18
164 23 Cayman Islands 101 -2 0
169 24 Turks and Caicos Islands 83 0 0
171 25 Bahamas 81 -1 0
172 26 St. Lucia 75 -11 -33
176 27 Belize 71 -3 0
177 28 British Virgin Islands 67 -1 0
179 29 Dominican Republic 66 -2 0
185 30 Nicaragua 45 -4 0
191 31 Dominica 25 0 0
193 32 Aruba 22 0 0
195 33 US Virgin Islands 17 -1 0
201 34 Anguilla 0 -1 0
201 35 Montserrat 0 -1 0
By the end of this Caribbean tourney, we should have put away Jamaica and Cuba.
By the end of the Hex next year we should have put away the US, Costa Rica and Possibly Jamaica.
i wonder why reggae-fan
i wonder why
The rankings are like Tennis rankings. Points from your older results lose weight and are replaced by your recent ones.
I am not sure how long the cycle is but Cuba are doing much better this rounds than they did 4 years ago. TnT on the other hand is doing about the same. Last time Cuba didn't even make the semis so in effect they have points earned from 5 matches that they did not even play last time around, hence the net positive points for them.
I remember reading once that FIFA rankings is not a sole representation of how the Mens NTs perform - however, it is a major factor.
Other factors to be considered are:
1. Womens' Teams performances
2. Youth Teams performances
3. Infrastructure development/ maintenance
Maybe Cuba is hiding something behind their iron curtain that we are not seeing!!
I remember reading once that FIFA rankings is not a sole representation of how the Mens NTs perform - however, it is a major factor.
Other factors to be considered are:
1. Womens' Teams performances
2. Youth Teams performances
3. Infrastructure development/ maintenance
Maybe Cuba is hiding something behind their iron curtain that we are not seeing!!
I remember reading once that FIFA rankings is not a sole representation of how the Mens NTs perform - however, it is a major factor.there is separate rankin fuh women.youth team have nutten to do with it.
Other factors to be considered are:
1. Womens' Teams performances
2. Youth Teams performances
3. Infrastructure development/ maintenance
Maybe Cuba is hiding something behind their iron curtain that we are not seeing!!
Ah wish FIFA get rid of this rankings shit. These rankings should never be used for anything important like work permits or seedings in competitions. Every month is de same talk about rankings.
I will keep saying it over and over. FIFA rankings is bullshit.
Ah wish FIFA get rid of this rankings shit. These rankings should never be used for anything important like work permits or seedings in competitions. Every month is de same talk about rankings.
I will keep saying it over and over. FIFA rankings is bullshit.
Agreeed...I dont see how cuba above wee, and jamaica right behind us...
these ranking is tata...and ah not tryn to be bias...
is relly dotishness...nuthing tuh hut wee head ova
I remember reading once that FIFA rankings is not a sole representation of how the Mens NTs perform - however, it is a major factor.
Other factors to be considered are:
1. Womens' Teams performances
2. Youth Teams performances
3. Infrastructure development/ maintenance
Maybe Cuba is hiding something behind their iron curtain that we are not seeing!!
So FIFA rank Panama and Barbados above Haiti and Guatemala! Really? Somebody loco!
Ah wish FIFA get rid of this rankings shit. These rankings should never be used for anything important like work permits or seedings in competitions. Every month is de same talk about rankings.
I will keep saying it over and over. FIFA rankings is bullshit.
Agreeed...I dont see how cuba above wee, and jamaica right behind us...
these ranking is tata...and ah not tryn to be bias...
is relly dotishness...nuthing tuh hut wee head ova
Ah wish FIFA get rid of this rankings shit. These rankings should never be used for anything important like work permits or seedings in competitions. Every month is de same talk about rankings.
I will keep saying it over and over. FIFA rankings is bullshit.
Agreeed...I dont see how cuba above wee, and jamaica right behind us...
these ranking is tata...and ah not tryn to be bias...
is relly dotishness...nuthing tuh hut wee head ova
Jamaica right behind you because we just beat regional kingpins Mexico and regional 3rd placed Honduras.
Dont worry, when we beat you later this month in the Digicel you wont be asking that question.
Dont worry about rankings ???
I am sure if Mr Einstein was still alive he cannot figure out how FIFA does it either :rotfl:
These Rankings continue to be a source of debate. Personally, I think that it is good to have a world football ranking system, but I challenge the way FIFA does theirs. They use a number of variables such as strength of the region - CONCACAF vs UEFA, match importance - friendy vs WCQ, socreline etc.
The type of match has a large wieght on the points.
I think that they should not count friendlies into the system.
A lot of teams send B squads or very under strength teams
If anything, more global competitions would give a better assesment of rank from region to region. like expanding the Confederations cup to include more teams.
Grenada moved up 21 places.........WOW!!
Every month when someone posts the FIFA rankings I will post my disclaimer.
FIFA rankings are a joke and should never be used for anything important such as obtaining work permits or for seedings in tournaments. FIFA rankings are for entertainment and argument purposes only.
Don't understand how Jamaica jump 16 places and T&T only move up one. How is that possible??
Don't understand how Jamaica jump 16 places and T&T only move up one. How is that possible??
Still doh make sense...T&T in the final 6 to qualify for WC2010, Jamaica..win the Digicel cup....no comparison...
So in other words.....someone new to the sport would look at the rankings and think...way boy...Jamaica is ah much better team than T&T. I don't have anything against Jamaica, just making a comparison..
Ok...so Jamaica full squad better than T&T full squad then????
Still doh make sense...T&T in the final 6 to qualify for WC2010, Jamaica..win the Digicel cup....no comparison...
So in other words.....someone new to the sport would look at the rankings and think...way boy...Jamaica is ah much better team than T&T. I don't have anything against Jamaica, just making a comparison..
Don't understand how Jamaica jump 16 places and T&T only move up one. How is that possible??Jamaiaca beat mexico, hunduras, canada, barbados, grenada in ah row, then they drew with T&T beat haiti then beat grenada to win ah regional championship the digicel cup! what's not to understand, i could understand that clearly.
Don't understand how Jamaica jump 16 places and T&T only move up one. How is that possible??
Doh try to figure it out...just accept it and yuh blood pressure wouldn't raise.
Still doh make sense...T&T in the final 6 to qualify for WC2010, Jamaica..win the Digicel cup....no comparison...
You are totally clueless. The Hex games are not played yet...so T&T will not have gained points for unplayed games.
Fella, my logic was that T&T moved on to the final 6, where as Jamaica watching those games on the TV. So then which team is better....a team that made it to the final 6 to advance to the WC2010, or one that win the Digicel Cup....played by Caribbean Teams.
Fella, my logic was that T&T moved on to the final 6, where as Jamaica watching those games on the TV. So then which team is better....a team that made it to the final 6 to advance to the WC2010, or one that win the Digicel Cup....played by Caribbean Teams.Still doh make sense...T&T in the final 6 to qualify for WC2010, Jamaica..win the Digicel cup....no comparison...
You are totally clueless. The Hex games are not played yet...so T&T will not have gained points for unplayed games.
Fella, my logic was that T&T moved on to the final 6, where as Jamaica watching those games on the TV. So then which team is better....a team that made it to the final 6 to advance to the WC2010, or one that win the Digicel Cup....played by Caribbean Teams.Still doh make sense...T&T in the final 6 to qualify for WC2010, Jamaica..win the Digicel cup....no comparison...
You are totally clueless. The Hex games are not played yet...so T&T will not have gained points for unplayed games.
Sanchez you ent making no sense... how you could rank teams and say who better based on World Cup Qualifying when we both played different teams and was in different groups completely... that is foolishness!
Now everybody know T&T is the better side... but that is beside the point ;D
Ok Ok.....allyuh catch meh...I do have a grudge against Jamaica...all meh JamRock pardners feel Jamaica is a better team than T&T and that they shouldda be moving on to the final 6 instead of T&T....
CONGRATS TO JAMAICA....take yuh ranking and watch we play some "WORLD CUP' fittball
shithongsssssssssssssss
Das what ah talking 'bout.... :devil:
Don't understand how Jamaica jump 16 places and T&T only move up one. How is that possible??
Jamaica win ah championship!
We lorse to Grenada...
So in other words.....someone new to the sport would look at the rankings and think...way boy...Jamaica is ah much better team than T&T. I don't have anything against Jamaica, just making a comparison..
LOL. And they wouldnt be wrong!
Ok...so Jamaica full squad better than T&T full squad then????Jamaica Full Squad is better than TnT full Squad , No unbias or Patriotic BS ...
Well! You will have a deeper grudge to bear when the January rankings come out. Why do you think T&T moved up 1 place and not down as expected? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Simple. The Digicel Championship numbers have not been factored in as yet.Fella, my logic was that T&T moved on to the final 6, where as Jamaica watching those games on the TV. So then which team is better....a team that made it to the final 6 to advance to the WC2010, or one that win the Digicel Cup....played by Caribbean Teams.Still doh make sense...T&T in the final 6 to qualify for WC2010, Jamaica..win the Digicel cup....no comparison...
You are totally clueless. The Hex games are not played yet...so T&T will not have gained points for unplayed games.
Sanchez you ent making no sense... how you could rank teams and say who better based on World Cup Qualifying when we both played different teams and was in different groups completely... that is foolishness!
Now everybody know T&T is the better side... but that is beside the point ;D
Ok Ok.....allyuh catch meh...I do have a grudge against Jamaica...all meh JamRock pardners feel Jamaica is a better team than T&T and that they shouldda be moving on to the final 6 instead of T&T....
Ok...so Jamaica full squad better than T&T full squad then????Jamaica Full Squad is better than TnT full Squad , No unbias or Patriotic BS ...
From my analysis and you guys knows , am rarely unbias . Jamaica First 11 is 1 to 3 Goals better
than Trinidad and Tobago First 11 . However if the game is played in Port of Spain , Jamaica can tie
or go down by a margin .
This current FIFA ranking do not reflect Jamaica . The reggaeboyz have not lost a Home Game versus
any opponent in almost 2 years . And am hearing from good sources that our ranking of 65 may go down
to 50+ in January . The Finals of Caribbean Nation Cup was not calculated .
...T&T beats Jamaica at home by 2 goals and draws away...
Ok...so Jamaica full squad better than T&T full squad then????Jamaica Full Squad is better than TnT full Squad , No unbias or Patriotic BS ...
From my analysis and you guys knows , am rarely unbias . Jamaica First 11 is 1 to 3 Goals better
than Trinidad and Tobago First 11 . However if the game is played in Port of Spain , Jamaica can tie
or go down by a margin .
This current FIFA ranking do not reflect Jamaica . The reggaeboyz have not lost a Home Game versus
any opponent in almost 2 years . And am hearing from good sources that our ranking of 65 may go down
to 50+ in January . The Finals of Caribbean Nation Cup was not calculated .
...T&T beats Jamaica at home by 2 goals and draws away...
Trin, just curios.....when did T&T beat Jamaica by 2 clear goals in POS??? Or is that just speculation.
...T&T beats Jamaica at home by 2 goals and draws away...
Trin, just curios.....when did T&T beat Jamaica by 2 clear goals in POS??? Or is that just speculation.
Youth teams included?
This current FIFA ranking do not reflect Jamaica . The reggaeboyz have not lost a Home Game versus
any opponent in almost 2 years . And am hearing from good sources that our ranking of 65 may go down
to 50+ in January . The Finals of Caribbean Nation Cup was not calculated .
...T&T beats Jamaica at home by 2 goals and draws away...
Trin, just curios.....when did T&T beat Jamaica by 2 clear goals in POS??? Or is that just speculation.
Swap Mexico for Honduras based on what?
5th in CONCACAF
Ranking Zonal Ranking Team Pts
Sep 09
11 1 USA 974 1 -17
24 2 Mexico 835 6 36
39 3 Costa Rica 735 -1 -7
42 4 Honduras 712 4 48
63 5 Trinidad and Tobago 517 7 39
66 6 Canada 504 0 6
69 7 Jamaica 477 0 -12
75 8 Panama 431 3 14
85 9 El Salvador 398 -4 -10
87 10 Cuba 393 1 10
FIFA Ranking (Sept 2) (http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=0&rank=185&page=2)
what make us jump to 63? we wasn't doing much lately ::)
Wow imagine where we will be if we beat Honduras and USA then...what make us jump to 63? we wasn't doing much lately ::)
12/08 TRI 1:0 (1:0) SLV FIFA World Cup™ Qualifier 758.63 pts.
Wow imagine where we will be when we beat Honduras and USA then...what make us jump to 63? we wasn't doing much lately ::)
12/08 TRI 1:0 (1:0) SLV FIFA World Cup™ Qualifier 758.63 pts.
5th in CONCACAF
Ranking Zonal Ranking Team Pts
Sep 09
11 1 USA 974 1 -17
24 2 Mexico 835 6 36
39 3 Costa Rica 735 -1 -7
42 4 Honduras 712 4 48
63 5 Trinidad and Tobago 517 7 39
66 6 Canada 504 0 6
69 7 Jamaica 477 0 -12
75 8 Panama 431 3 14
85 9 El Salvador 398 -4 -10
87 10 Cuba 393 1 10
FIFA Ranking (Sept 2) (http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=0&rank=185&page=2)
Once we are above Jamaica that is all that matters! ;D
Egypt ???daiz shit eh !
I would like to know (not that I not going to take in improved ranking) what did we do to move up 19 places?
FF why u rig the rankings?.. ;D Brazil is 3rd and Holland is 2nd...
I would like to know (not that I not going to take in improved ranking) what did we do to move up 19 places?
nothing
FF why u rig the rankings?.. ;D Brazil is 3rd and Holland is 2nd...
;D I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT. NONE WHAT SO EVER ;D
Egypt not being in the 2010 WC does not take away the fact that they were African champs recently and was very unlucky to be knocked out by Algeria.They are worthy of their position and would have beaten quite a few teams that were present in the WC,didn't yall see them torture the other African teams over the last 3 years.OK if not 9 they are definitely in the first 20 teams.
I would like to know (not that I not going to take in improved ranking) what did we do to move up 19 places?
Egypt not being in the 2010 WC does not take away the fact that they were African champs recently and was very unlucky to be knocked out by Algeria.They are worthy of their position and would have beaten quite a few teams that were present in the WC,didn't yall see them torture the other African teams over the last 3 years.OK if not 9 they are definitely in the first 20 teams.
I would like to know (not that I not going to take in improved ranking) what did we do to move up 19 places?
I would like to know (not that I not going to take in improved ranking) what did we do to move up 19 places?
allyuh din see d awe inspirin football we play against chile or wha........dat alone worth 18 spots.........steups :angel:
I would like to know (not that I not going to take in improved ranking) what did we do to move up 19 places?
I would like to know (not that I not going to take in improved ranking) what did we do to move up 19 places?
we hired a world class coach thats what. ;)
All yuh does really put stock in that crap???
All yuh does really put stock in that crap???
That crap could help determine whether or not our players get foreign contracts.
FIFA rankings is to be taken with a grain of saltThat grain of salt still affects players work permits .
BOTH El Salvador and Cuba are plenty better sides dan we at de moment.
FIFA rankings is to be taken with a grain of saltThat grain of salt still affects players work permits .
BOTH El Salvador and Cuba are plenty better sides dan we at de moment.
FIFA rankings is to be taken with a grain of saltThat grain of salt still affects players work permits .
BOTH El Salvador and Cuba are plenty better sides dan we at de moment.
FIFA rankings is to be taken with a grain of saltThat grain of salt still affects players work permits .
BOTH El Salvador and Cuba are plenty better sides dan we at de moment.
it aint lookin like any ah dem mite need it anytime soon
allyuh men ent catch palos heights at all
allyuh men ent catch palos heights at all
allyuh men ent catch palos heights at all
First century we score since Lara retire :-)
This is our lowest ranking ever. Our previous low was 102 in July 2008.
Ah remember when we was rank in the 30's and there was nuff complaints that FIFA ranking is bogus.
Well the computer wokin now
First century we score since Lara retire :-)
I say that ranking is SPOT ON! :rotfl:
(http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2008/12/4/saupload_limbo.jpg)
Yuh know we have a real interesting way of dealing with depressing news.....I was so wrong, we eh wailing and gnashing at all....we in full kicks mode!!.... ;D
Triniy Cross, good one. Not entirely sure What guyana has done in recent times to have jumped that high on the tables. FIFA ranking system is a joke. I find the ELO rankings more stable http://www.eloratings.net/world.html (scroll down the page to see the actual rankings of the various nations) T&T has a more respectable 85th ranking, which i think is about where you should be on the world charts.
Having said that, I think CONCACAF needs to take note of the rise of Panama as a force in regional football. In fact, they have managed to do what both Jamaica and T&T are yet to do: they have gotten to the final of the Gold Cup. Panama is currently ranked 4th in CONCACAF, a spot normally reserved for Costa Rica or Honduras.
Dem fellas should feel shame dat Guyana ranked higher dan dem.
I mean is one ting to see JA above us in the ranking but Guyana?
Den again they beat us in the 20/20 cricket as well so maybe they ketching some form.
Why is Guyana # 98 has a better ranking than TT???
Shahdon Winchester Celtic move will still go through. FIFA has Guyana as a better team so when we beat them and qualify for the DCC by January we should be about 76th. We'll get a massive jump for beating a better team...lol.
Shahdon Winchester Celtic move will still go through. FIFA has Guyana as a better team so when we beat them and qualify for the DCC by January we should be about 76th. We'll get a massive jump for beating a better team...lol.
http://www.youtube.com/v/O9hvjxiShKQ
Guyana have not lost in a year, including 3 competitive wins (continental qualifier matches)...against better or similar opposition.
T&T have not played a competitive match in the last year and obtained 3 wins and 2 draws from 9 matches against substantially weaker opposition.
Remember you don't even get so much as token points for a loss now, even to Brazil, and a friendly draw with Belize is the equivalent of fanning yourself with a sheet of galvanise to keep cool - not really worth the energy expended. Our big mistake was playing all these low ranked teams and not beating them.
In the meantime, we've lost all our points from our World Cup run in 2005, have few World Cup points to account for in 2009, fewer Continental qualifier points and no Gold Cup points. In truth, apart from drawing with Mexico at the end of the hex, most of our points are coming from our semifinal round qualifiers in 2008, which are now worth 30%-50% of their initial value.
From a rankings perspective, the worst thing we can possibly do is not go all the way in the digicel...
doh study dem baller, right now some poeple living in a fantasy land thinking T&T football still good.
First century we score since Lara retire :-)
Why the hating on Guyana? Reggaefan and others.
If you were at the match when Trinidad played Guyana you could see how well Guyana has improved and why we have been unbeaten for so long. To be fair, Trinidad was outplayed in that match and in my view were it not for the poor finishing could easily have been beaten 4-2 or even 5-2. Yes it was that bad and neither Jackie Chan nor Codrington played for Guyana in that match. Except for Peltier, Jorsling and the goalkeeper, no one else from Trinidad's team had a really good game. I don't think Latapy was all to blame, the players were not good enough. They could not do what he was asking them to do which was to attack against Guyana the home team. They could not respond - they were average. Guyana just had too much pace and energy. They had the same belief like some of you that Trinidad would put six in Guyana but 10 minutes into the game realised that the game was on.
Someday Guyana will be giving Jamaica fits too, just like the USA is finding out with basketball. For those who can remember - Guyana did well in the last Digicel Cup and I believe also had the leading scorer for the tournament in Codrington.
Unlike Jamaicans, most Guyanese genuinely like Trinidad's football team and it is sad what is happening with Trinidad but belittling and dis-respecting Guyana and going on as if Guyana's football is undeservedly ranked at 98 will not help Trinidad football get any better.
First century we score since Lara retire :-)
106, not out....play will resume tomorrow.
First century we score since Lara retire :-)
106, not out....play will resume tomorrow.
First century we score since Lara retire :-)
106, not out....play will resume tomorrow.
World Zone Team Move
24 1 USA 1 Up
28 2 Mexico 0 Equal
57 3 Honduras -3 Down
63 4 Costa Rica 3 Up
64 5 Panama -5 Down
78 6 Trinidad and Tobago 28 Up
82 7 Jamaica -3 Down
85 8 Canada -2 Down
86 9 Guyana 12 Up
91 10 Grenada 34 Up
World Zone Team Move
78 1 Trinidad and Tobago 28 Up
82 2 Jamaica -3 Down
86 3 Guyana 12 Up
91 4 Grenada 34 Up
94 5 Cuba 27 Up
101 6 Haiti 27 Up
115 7 Antigua and Barbuda 16 Up
120 8 Barbados -13 Down
121 9 Suriname -8 Down
122 10 St. Kitts and Nevis 7 Up
Well at least I now feel that this ranking system ent that bad. Just reward for our recent results.???
Well at least I now feel that this ranking system ent that bad. Just reward for our recent results.???
how we reach so high?
I thought that those last 3 games should not be taken into consideration this soon ??? Should it not be results from around mid year coming into play now?
Eman way yuh thread explaining this.
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I thought that those last 3 games should not be taken into consideration this soon ??? Should it not be results from around mid year coming into play now?
Eman way yuh thread explaining this.
??? ??? ??? ??? ???
between me and Midknight we fed up explain these rankings...
rankings are current up to the prior month leading up til the rankings release... what would be the point if they now considering mid year results??
I do actually understand that FF. My response was more aimed at the "just rewards for our recent results" part of Rastaman's post. Other than those last 3 competitive wins I didn't think we'd had particularly good results recently. I was actually figuring that maybe we had some poor results from a year ago falling out of consideration for the rankings. Thanks for the info nevertheless.Well at least I now feel that this ranking system ent that bad. Just reward for our recent results.???
it seems inconsistent and vikie vie... but if you understand the points system and the multipliers for competitive games then it makes sense
We gained net 120 points for those last 3 competitive victories and points dropping out from 4 years prior
in comparison... Jamaica gained net 1 point....
I thought that those last 3 games should not be taken into consideration this soon ??? Should it not be results from around mid year coming into play now?
Eman way yuh thread explaining this.
??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Good news. As long as we continue we'll soon be above 70.Be careful with dem kinda statements. Remember that it is the net result of points gained from recent results minus points gained from results 1 yr ago that are now out of consideration. That's the reason why Jamaica only gained net 1 point and dropped 3 places.
Good news. As long as we continue we'll soon be above 70.Be careful with dem kinda statements. Remember that it is the net result of points gained from recent results minus points gained from results 1 yr ago that are now out of consideration. That's the reason why Jamaica only gained net 1 point and dropped 3 places.
Maybe because our wins were apart of a tournament and not friendlies could be a reason why we jumped so high.
Good news. As long as we continue we'll soon be above 70.Be careful with dem kinda statements. Remember that it is the net result of points gained from recent results minus points gained from results 1 yr ago that are now out of consideration. That's the reason why Jamaica only gained net 1 point and dropped 3 places.
Good news. As long as we continue we'll soon be above 70.
I'm just trying to understand what you are trying to say,"most folks here can't speak proper English so our players may find the language barrier difficult" are you saying it will be easier for them going to Spain,Protugal,Holland,Germany etc ?Good news. As long as we continue we'll soon be above 70.
Our players don't all have to come to England! It is not the best league in the world and the weather ain't all that great! Plus most folks here can't speak proper English so our players may find the language barrier difficult!!
In other words if we remain below 70 its not a big deal if our players can alternatively go to Spain, Portugal, Holland, Germany or some other European or South American league as opposed to coming to England! They may actually develope into better all round players going elswhere rather than coming to England!! Have you not seen the state of the English team recently?! They can't even win at home in Wembley! They are trying to blame the coach but the truth is their players aren't good enough as compared with the other top European countries! ;)
I'm just trying to understand what you are trying to say,"most folks here can't speak proper English so our players may find the language barrier difficult" are you saying it will be easier for them going to Spain,Protugal,Holland,Germany etc ?Good news. As long as we continue we'll soon be above 70.
Our players don't all have to come to England! It is not the best league in the world and the weather ain't all that great! Plus most folks here can't speak proper English so our players may find the language barrier difficult!!
In other words if we remain below 70 its not a big deal if our players can alternatively go to Spain, Portugal, Holland, Germany or some other European or South American league as opposed to coming to England! They may actually develope into better all round players going elswhere rather than coming to England!! Have you not seen the state of the English team recently?! They can't even win at home in Wembley! They are trying to blame the coach but the truth is their players aren't good enough as compared with the other top European countries! ;)
how we reach so high?
By doing the opposite of what we did to get so low
I'm just trying to understand what you are trying to say,"most folks here can't speak proper English so our players may find the language barrier difficult" are you saying it will be easier for them going to Spain,Protugal,Holland,Germany etc ?Good news. As long as we continue we'll soon be above 70.
Our players don't all have to come to England! It is not the best league in the world and the weather ain't all that great! Plus most folks here can't speak proper English so our players may find the language barrier difficult!!
In other words if we remain below 70 its not a big deal if our players can alternatively go to Spain, Portugal, Holland, Germany or some other European or South American league as opposed to coming to England! They may actually develope into better all round players going elswhere rather than coming to England!! Have you not seen the state of the English team recently?! They can't even win at home in Wembley! They are trying to blame the coach but the truth is their players aren't good enough as compared with the other top European countries! ;)
Intitally it will be harder as they will need to learn a 2nd language like Latapy had to do but long term I believe it will benefit our players and our team!! As I said before the English league is not the best European league!
Did you see the England vs French game today? England got schooled by a French team with a new coach that is rebuilding! Could it be that their players aren't as good as the French players?! Could it be that the French league produces better all-round players?! 8)
I'm just trying to understand what you are trying to say,"most folks here can't speak proper English so our players may find the language barrier difficult" are you saying it will be easier for them going to Spain,Protugal,Holland,Germany etc ?Good news. As long as we continue we'll soon be above 70.
Our players don't all have to come to England! It is not the best league in the world and the weather ain't all that great! Plus most folks here can't speak proper English so our players may find the language barrier difficult!!
In other words if we remain below 70 its not a big deal if our players can alternatively go to Spain, Portugal, Holland, Germany or some other European or South American league as opposed to coming to England! They may actually develope into better all round players going elswhere rather than coming to England!! Have you not seen the state of the English team recently?! They can't even win at home in Wembley! They are trying to blame the coach but the truth is their players aren't good enough as compared with the other top European countries! ;)
Intitally it will be harder as they will need to learn a 2nd language like Latapy had to do but long term I believe it will benefit our players and our team!! As I said before the English league is not the best European league!
Did you see the England vs French game today? England got schooled by a French team with a new coach that is rebuilding! Could it be that their players aren't as good as the French players?! Could it be that the French league produces better all-round players?! 8)
So it harder to learn the local English slang and accent than to learn a whole other language?
That doh make sense at all.
Anyway I agree with you on the other part, England shouldn't be the main goal for our players, but the reality is that England and Scotland are where our players like to go. They have links through agents and past players, plus the language.
If you have a link to the Barca scoutin network then by all means let Bleeder and friends know so we could get them signed up.
Two trialists also featured for United. Jamaican international Jason Morrison played 70 minutes at the heart of the midfield
rankings are overated
Let the weeping and wailing begin......or we in too much of a comatose state to care??.... :-\
RF yuh jes like a grenadian ka-ka roach
RF yuh jes like a grenadian ka-ka roach
why u say that brother? :o
Soca Warriors fourth in CFU rankings.
T&T Guardian.
Fri, 2011-04-22
Jamaica and Cuba suffered significant drops in the latest Federation of International Football Associations (Fifa) world rankings but this has not impacted on their standing in the Caribbean, as they remain the top two sides in the region.
The Jamaicans, the Digicel Caribbean Cup champions, dropped 16 places and the Cubans 18 spots to 64th and 82nd, respectively, in the world. In a shake-up of the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) top five, T&T which has not played an international friendly for 2011 has moved up to third and Haiti, fourth after Grenada dropped five places in the world to 99th and are now the CFU fifth ranked team.
A little further down, the only other major news is that Antigua & Barbuda have advanced one place to reach the top-100 in the world for the first time, since the world rankings were launched 18 years ago. The rest of the rankings remain largely unchanged, with Guyana and Suriname slipping in their standing in the world.
Fifa reported that 124 international matches were played since the last edition of the world ranking five weeks ago, which has doubled the total number of games played for the year to 248, and all have impacted in determining the latest rankings.
Of the 124 matches contested, 50 were qualifiers for confederation championships (29 in Europe and 21 in Africa). The other 74 games were friendly internationals. World Cup champions, Spain is still the top team in the world followed by South Africa runner-up Holland, Brazil, Germany and Argentina.
England stays at sixth, ahead of Uruguay, Portugal, Italy and Croatia to complete the top ten. The USA at 22nd, down three places is the top ranked country in Concacaf ahead of Mexico (26th), Honduras (43rd), Costa Rica (55th), Jamaica, Canada (75th), El Salvador (87th) and T&T (94th).
Soca Warriors fourth in CFU rankings.
T&T Guardian.
Fri, 2011-04-22
Jamaica and Cuba suffered significant drops in the latest Federation of International Football Associations (Fifa) world rankings but this has not impacted on their standing in the Caribbean, as they remain the top two sides in the region.
The Jamaicans, the Digicel Caribbean Cup champions, dropped 16 places and the Cubans 18 spots to 64th and 82nd, respectively, in the world. In a shake-up of the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) top five, T&T which has not played an international friendly for 2011 has moved up to third and Haiti, fourth after Grenada dropped five places in the world to 99th and are now the CFU fifth ranked team.
A little further down, the only other major news is that Antigua & Barbuda have advanced one place to reach the top-100 in the world for the first time, since the world rankings were launched 18 years ago. The rest of the rankings remain largely unchanged, with Guyana and Suriname slipping in their standing in the world.
Fifa reported that 124 international matches were played since the last edition of the world ranking five weeks ago, which has doubled the total number of games played for the year to 248, and all have impacted in determining the latest rankings.
Of the 124 matches contested, 50 were qualifiers for confederation championships (29 in Europe and 21 in Africa). The other 74 games were friendly internationals. World Cup champions, Spain is still the top team in the world followed by South Africa runner-up Holland, Brazil, Germany and Argentina.
England stays at sixth, ahead of Uruguay, Portugal, Italy and Croatia to complete the top ten. The USA at 22nd, down three places is the top ranked country in Concacaf ahead of Mexico (26th), Honduras (43rd), Costa Rica (55th), Jamaica, Canada (75th), El Salvador (87th) and T&T (94th).
Soca Warriors fourth in CFU rankings.
T&T Guardian.
Fri, 2011-04-22
Jamaica and Cuba suffered significant drops in the latest Federation of International Football Associations (Fifa) world rankings but this has not impacted on their standing in the Caribbean, as they remain the top two sides in the region.
The Jamaicans, the Digicel Caribbean Cup champions, dropped 16 places and the Cubans 18 spots to 64th and 82nd, respectively, in the world. In a shake-up of the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) top five, T&T which has not played an international friendly for 2011 has moved up to third and Haiti, fourth after Grenada dropped five places in the world to 99th and are now the CFU fifth ranked team.
A little further down, the only other major news is that Antigua & Barbuda have advanced one place to reach the top-100 in the world for the first time, since the world rankings were launched 18 years ago. The rest of the rankings remain largely unchanged, with Guyana and Suriname slipping in their standing in the world.
Fifa reported that 124 international matches were played since the last edition of the world ranking five weeks ago, which has doubled the total number of games played for the year to 248, and all have impacted in determining the latest rankings.
Of the 124 matches contested, 50 were qualifiers for confederation championships (29 in Europe and 21 in Africa). The other 74 games were friendly internationals. World Cup champions, Spain is still the top team in the world followed by South Africa runner-up Holland, Brazil, Germany and Argentina.
England stays at sixth, ahead of Uruguay, Portugal, Italy and Croatia to complete the top ten. The USA at 22nd, down three places is the top ranked country in Concacaf ahead of Mexico (26th), Honduras (43rd), Costa Rica (55th), Jamaica, Canada (75th), El Salvador (87th) and T&T (94th).
Well yes allyuh see dat!? Big team is big team and big coach is big coach yes!!
Hey Fellas, I think Pfister know what he doing yes!
No games since he got hired and we already move up to third place in CONCACAF!
Allyuh watch and see what will happen with our rankings after we drop some licks on teams like Antigua, St Kitts & Bermuda!!
Well is now self I joining the bandwagon!!Brazil 2014 here we come! :wavetowel:
Best we cancel all friendlies and jus move up de ranks ;D
No games since he got hired and we already move up to third place in CONCACAF!
No games since he got hired and we already move up to third place in CONCACAF!
3rd in CFU not CONCACAF...where we still languishing at 10th spot
so we move up 7 spots to 90th without playing a game ??? what a ting !!!!!
so we move up 7 spots to 90th without playing a game ??? what a ting !!!!!
Every month, same story... ::)
This thread always serves as my reminder that education is a constant process.
Every month, same story... ::)
This thread always serves as my reminder that education is a constant process.
Actually, there is a formula you can use to calculate the ranking. Theres a thread on the rbz forum that accurately projected jamaicas 38 ranking for June.
so we move up 7 spots to 90th without playing a game ??? what a ting !!!!!Maybe is best we doh play... Grenada and Cuba moved down 19 and 20 spots respectively for their gold cup participation :devil: ... Seriously though even though some forumites try to disregard these rankings as rubbish, the fact is it is important to our footballers obtaining european contracts, workpermits, etc...
Every month, same story... ::)
This thread always serves as my reminder that education is a constant process.
Netherlands trumps spain for #1 spot :bs:
Ah RF just you wait until Holland plays Spain again! And yeah boy ENGLAND 4th ??? Ha Ha HA HA HA iz like I feel asleep and woke up in some Bizarro world yes!Netherlands trumps spain for #1 spot :bs:
That shift happened for historical reasons and not anything happening in the last month. Holland didn't play any games and Spain lost to Italy in a friendly gaining 0 points.
England moving up to 4th is the real joke.
So the match with India was really not an 'A' international. No points earned:
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=tri/ranking/gender=m/index.html
GO ORANJE!!!
#1 for the first time.... :wavetowel: ;D
So the match with India was really not an 'A' international. No points earned:
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=tri/ranking/gender=m/index.html
I think the game vs India will count in the next set of FIFA ranking ?
So the match with India was really not an 'A' international. No points earned:
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=tri/ranking/gender=m/index.html
I think the game vs India will count in the next set of FIFA ranking ?
So the match with India was really not an 'A' international. No points earned:
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=tri/ranking/gender=m/index.html
I think the game vs India will count in the next set of FIFA ranking ?
No. It's listed for this month on that link. Plus if you reread one of the articles announcing the game they even said it wasn't going to be an 'A' international, but if that's the case I don't get why they list it at all.
"We have just found out that the tour matches will not add to India's points (in the ranking system). It's just a friendly tour and makes no sense to release players right in the middle of pre-season. We have conveyed our decision to the AIFF in writing," said Chirag Tanna, Pune FC director of operations.
who did england beat ?
Netherlands trumps spain for #1 spot :bs:
who did england beat ?
JW!
We down 3 spots to 91 for those who interested.
Historically it seems as though our best years in terms of ranking was between 2000 and 2001.
Allyuh remember what the squad, coaches, games was like that would have earned us that ranking ?
Historically it seems as though our best years in terms of ranking was between 2000 and 2001.
Allyuh remember what the squad, coaches, games was like that would have earned us that ranking ?
The 2001 ranking was a joke and many figured JW might have somethin to do with it when he hit around number 25 in the world.
From '99 - early 2001, we were on a nice run. We started off by beating J'ca in our first exhibition with most foreign based (2-0) we drew or beat S. Africa, beat Colombia 4-3 - Latas with a hat trick; Stern arrived in Honduras the day of or before the match and scored 2, as we went down 3-2.
Could be mixing up year but think we had some decent games vs. Egypt, S. Korea and S. Afric away from home.
Had a decent G. Cup, beat C. Rica and dominated Canada in the semis but lost 1-0.
They fired Bertille and under Porters we play real crap.
Historically it seems as though our best years in terms of ranking was between 2000 and 2001.
Allyuh remember what the squad, coaches, games was like that would have earned us that ranking ?
The 2001 ranking was a joke and many figured JW might have somethin to do with it when he hit around number 25 in the world.
From '99 - early 2001, we were on a nice run. We started off by beating J'ca in our first exhibition with most foreign based (2-0) we drew or beat S. Africa, beat Colombia 4-3 - Latas with a hat trick; Stern arrived in Honduras the day of or before the match and scored 2, as we went down 3-2.
Could be mixing up year but think we had some decent games vs. Egypt, S. Korea and S. Afric away from home.
Had a decent G. Cup, beat C. Rica and dominated Canada in the semis but lost 1-0.
They fired Bertille and under Porters we play real crap.
BS it was earned... we was undefeated for a long time from 1999 into 2000
So we move up to 80th position in the rankings! Here is the link:
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=0&rank=208&page=2
And this link is for the CONCACAF rankings:
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=23914&rank=208
I think the 1st goal is for T&T to always be at least in the top 70 in the FIFA rankings so our players can get more signings in Europe and England if they see it in their interest from a professional & development perspective to move there!
The 2nd goal is for T&T to always be ranked as one of the top 3 teams in CONCACAF!!
So we move up to 80th position in the rankings! Here is the link:
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=0&rank=208&page=2
And this link is for the CONCACAF rankings:
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=23914&rank=208
I think the 1st goal is for T&T to always be at least in the top 70 in the FIFA rankings so our players can get more signings in Europe and England if they see it in their interest from a professional & development perspective to move there!
The 2nd goal is for T&T to always be ranked as one of the top 3 teams in CONCACAF!!
So we move up to 80th position in the rankings! Here is the link:
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=0&rank=208&page=2
And this link is for the CONCACAF rankings:
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=23914&rank=208
I think the 1st goal is for T&T to always be at least in the top 70 in the FIFA rankings so our players can get more signings in Europe and England if they see it in their interest from a professional & development perspective to move there!
The 2nd goal is for T&T to always be ranked as one of the top 3 teams in CONCACAF!!
So we move up to 80th position in the rankings! Here is the link:
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=0&rank=208&page=2
And this link is for the CONCACAF rankings:
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=23914&rank=208
I think the 1st goal is for T&T to always be at least in the top 70 in the FIFA rankings so our players can get more signings in Europe and England if they see it in their interest from a professional & development perspective to move there!
The 2nd goal is for T&T to always be ranked as one of the top 3 teams in CONCACAF!!
like the positive thinking :beermug:
22,Dec-2011
T&T move up ten places in world rankings.
T&T Express.
Reigning Caribbean champions Jamaica finished the year at the top of the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) rankings.
This followed the publication of the last edition of the World Rankings for the year yesterday by the sport's world governing body, FIFA.
The Reggae Boyz maintained their hold on the No.1 spot, despite a seven-place drop that leaves them 54th in the World Rankings.
There was plenty movement in this month's rankings, following the conclusion of the quarter-final stage of CONCACAF qualification for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.
Surprisingly, Trinidad and Tobago advanced ten places in the World Rankings to 76th, making them the second-best side in the CFU.
It was the biggest move in the CFU and occurred despite the Soca Warriors failing to advance to the next stage of World Cup qualifying, after a string of feeble results and having little or no playing time in the last month.
As a result, Haiti, ranked 81st in the world, and Antigua & Barbuda, ranked 87th, were displaced and are now the CFU's No.3 and No.4 sides.
Guyana, ranked 91st in the world after reaching the second-last stage of World Cup qualification by advancing from the same group that included T&T, complete the CFU Top 5.
Recent strong results have also shaken up the remainder of the top ten. Bermuda has been elevated to 107th in the world and Puerto Rico to 108th. This meant that they are now the sixth and seventh best sides in the CFU.
Cuba has fallen on hard times in recent matches and plummeted a whopping 23 places in the world to 115th, leaving them eighth in the CFU.
St. Kitts & Nevis advanced to 116th in the world and Suriname dropped three places to 125th to close out the top ten.
Grenada, semi-finalists in the Caribbean Cup a year ago and a contestant at this year's CONCACAF Gold Cup in the United States, have also endured hard times, slumping 28 places to 134th in the world and 12th in the CFU.
The Spice Boyz's plunge in the World Rankings is the biggest in the CFU and CONCACAF region, summing up a disastrous year for them.
An eight-place rise for Aruba to 164th in the world and 16th in the CFU is the only other news of significance in the CFU region.
Reigning world and European champions Spain remain unchallenged at the top of the table, followed by the Netherlands, Germany and Uruguay, who are all still competing in an exciting head-to-head battle for second place.
As the top team at year-end, Spain are the Team-of-the-Year for the fourth year in a row.
FIFA said the results of 57 new 'A' international matches have been recognised in the current edition of the World Rankings, of which 51 were friendly matches and the remaining six were Oceania Football Confederation World Cup qualification matches.
In total, 1,046 matches were taken into account over the course of the year.
The next World Rankings will be published on January 18.
Following are the latest Caribbean Football Union rankings released on Wednesday:
Maybe the rankings are upside down ???
Maybe the rankings are upside down ???
loooooooooool, ............u sure u eh born here ;D ;D ;D
Dear baby jesus,Maybe the rankings are upside down ???
loooooooooool, ............u sure u eh born here ;D ;D ;D
I keep hoping one day everyone will understand how the rankings work and we will just read the article and move on. :-\
Dear baby jesus,Maybe the rankings are upside down ???
loooooooooool, ............u sure u eh born here ;D ;D ;D
I keep hoping one day everyone will understand how the rankings work and we will just read the article and move on. :-\
Please take time out from helping Tim Tebow to grant us this wish
Amen
Brazil out of the top 10. Wow! :cursing:Why is England ranked higher than Brazil or even France?
Brazil out of the top 10. Wow! :cursing:Why is England ranked higher than Brazil or even France?
Also why did an inactive T&T rise 2 places to 80 while an active Jamaica drop 3 places to 63?
Apparently T&T is still ranked in the top 10 in CONCACAF.
fifa rankings are overratedAs a ranking system, yes they are overrated and pretty much worthless. However to a player they can be the difference between getting a work permit and not, so in that sense no they are not.
Need a good Gold Cup showing to get into the top 70 and start back getting players eligible for work permits in the UK.:beermug:
Latest Rankings released for August. Up 9 places to 78th.
Rnk Zon. Rnk Team Pts +/- Pos
19 1 USA 960 3
20 2 Mexico 879 0
40 3 Panama 679 11
42 4 Costa Rica 651 -3
43 5 Honduras 640 12
74 6 Haiti 476 -5
76 7 Jamaica 469 1
78 8 Trinidad and Tobago 452 9
83 9 El Salvador 431 11
86 10 Dominican Republic 421 4
Points Last Month
MEX - TRI 1:0 0
HON - TRI 0:2 1148.4
TRI - HAI 0:2 0
SLV - TRI 2:2 279.84
should we rejoice over this. Ratings eh all that!!!!
http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html
70 was the magic number to get our players into England, barring the other barriers.
http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html
70 was the magic number to get our players into England, barring the other barriers.
Yes, but you have to be consistently in the top 70 for two years to open the doors. Appeals can be made, but most UK clubs would not want the hassle. Remember, they have to sign the player before they can apply for a permit, so it's a risk most club's won't take.
Also, FYI, the player has to play 75% of FIFA competetive matches : WC, GC etc. Friendlies don't count!
http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html
70 was the magic number to get our players into England, barring the other barriers.
Yes, but you have to be consistently in the top 70 for two years to open the doors. Appeals can be made, but most UK clubs would not want the hassle. Remember, they have to sign the player before they can apply for a permit, so it's a risk most club's won't take.
Also, FYI, the player has to play 75% of FIFA competetive matches : WC, GC etc. Friendlies don't count!
http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html
70 was the magic number to get our players into England, barring the other barriers.
Yes, but you have to be consistently in the top 70 for two years to open the doors. Appeals can be made, but most UK clubs would not want the hassle. Remember, they have to sign the player before they can apply for a permit, so it's a risk most club's won't take.
Also, FYI, the player has to play 75% of FIFA competetive matches : WC, GC etc. Friendlies don't count!
I thought that clubs could make signings conditional on obtaining a work permit? I've seen a couple stires in the past couple years about players' transfers falling through as they couldn't get the work permit that the move was conditional on.
TNT does allow dual citizenship. I've got both a British and TNT passport. My wife who is born to a Trini mother is only allowed one through ancestry and not marriage. This is because she has not lived in TnT for 2 years. Don't be surprised if KJ hasn't gotten one as he's not married to a Brit and neither him nor his parents were born here. It's not inconceivable hat he's still only allowed a work permit!
Not a bad year for T&T football as we are finally moving our football back up to where we know it should be and will hopefully move up into the 50's and 40's during 2014 if we continue to play the right opponents and to get the right results.
The FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking - Ranking Table - FIFA.com (http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html?intcmp=fifacom_hp_module_ranking) then click CONCACAF Tab.
Once we get our FIFA ranking above 70 more of our players should be able to get trials and be signed to the top UK clubs meaning more experienced players to call on playing at the higher professional levels.
Okay thanks for the correction about the two year period of being in the top 70.Not a bad year for T&T football as we are finally moving our football back up to where we know it should be and will hopefully move up into the 50's and 40's during 2014 if we continue to play the right opponents and to get the right results.
The FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking - Ranking Table - FIFA.com (http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html?intcmp=fifacom_hp_module_ranking) then click CONCACAF Tab.
Once we get our FIFA ranking above 70 more of our players should be able to get trials and be signed to the top UK clubs meaning more experienced players to call on playing at the higher professional levels.
Yeah, but remember, the rule is that the nation has to be consistently in the top 70 for two years to automatically qualify!
Terrible news on the ranking :( Whilst the friendlies were great in nearly every way, they've had a harsh effect on the rankings. Another reason why the Rankings are stupid to be a simple average of points.
Our womens team has dropped 77 spots to 125th in the rankings. Lack of games I guess.
Further movement up the rankings expected after the final round next month. Top 30 perhaps ;D ;D
Will this help us with players trying to penetrate the English leagues?
August Rankings
Men
55 Jamaica
56 Trinidad and Tobago
84 Haiti
105 Antigua and Barbuda
women
48 Trinidad and Tobago
63 Haiti
74 Jamaica
98 Cuba
August Rankings
Men
55 Jamaica
56 Trinidad and Tobago
84 Haiti
105 Antigua and Barbuda
women
48 Trinidad and Tobago
63 Haiti
74 Jamaica
98 Cuba
If I am correct, we have been ranked in the top 70 for
2 years according to Fifa website. I guess our guys can get the much needed UK work permit.
August Rankings
Men
55 Jamaica
56 Trinidad and Tobago
84 Haiti
105 Antigua and Barbuda
women
48 Trinidad and Tobago
63 Haiti
74 Jamaica
98 Cuba
If I am correct, we have been ranked in the top 70 for
2 years according to Fifa website. I guess our guys can get the much needed UK work permit.
Good observations :beermug:
August Rankings
Men
55 Jamaica
56 Trinidad and Tobago
84 Haiti
105 Antigua and Barbuda
women
48 Trinidad and Tobago
63 Haiti
74 Jamaica
98 Cuba
If I am correct, we have been ranked in the top 70 for
2 years according to Fifa website. I guess our guys can get the much needed UK work permit.
Good observations :beermug:
No dudes. The new regulations are in effect and it is top 50 now.
Posted last week
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=64165.msg935651#msg935651
August Rankings
Men
55 Jamaica
56 Trinidad and Tobago
84 Haiti
105 Antigua and Barbuda
women
48 Trinidad and Tobago
63 Haiti
74 Jamaica
98 Cuba
If I am correct, we have been ranked in the top 70 for
2 years according to Fifa website. I guess our guys can get the much needed UK work permit.
Good observations :beermug:
No dudes. The new regulations are in effect and it is top 50 now.
Posted last week
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=64165.msg935651#msg935651
That is rough! Not even a grandfather clause for fellas who already in?
No dudes. The new regulations are in effect and it is top 50 now.
Posted last week
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=64165.msg935651#msg935651
Thanks FF. I forget that we have to break 50 now.
I read that Rodolph Austin has to leave his family behind in the UK because of the new regulations. I guess the English FA has a better way of controlling the amount of Non-European players entering their leagues.
That is rough! Not even a grandfather clause for fellas who already in?
No dudes. The new regulations are in effect and it is top 50 now.
Posted last week
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=64165.msg935651#msg935651
Thanks FF. I forget that we have to break 50 now.
I read that Rodolph Austin has to leave his family behind in the UK because of the new regulations. I guess the English FA has a better way of controlling the amount of Non-European players entering their leagues.
ridiculous rule especially coming from a country that benefited immensely by having foreign players join their league. my opinion is that commonwealth countries should have preference over other football associations in landing contracts in the english leagues. it bothered my uncle to no ends when west indians were not allowed to participate in county cricket anymore, he was a lancashire diehard but stopped supporting them when this rule came down, it almost seem like the same with this new football ruling concerning foreign players.That is rough! Not even a grandfather clause for fellas who already in?
No dudes. The new regulations are in effect and it is top 50 now.
Posted last week
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=64165.msg935651#msg935651
Thanks FF. I forget that we have to break 50 now.
I read that Rodolph Austin has to leave his family behind in the UK because of the new regulations. I guess the English FA has a better way of controlling the amount of Non-European players entering their leagues.
Just read an article...we're ranked 56th...while Jamaica is at 55...they top the cfu rankings...and obliviously we're second...Haiti is 3rd at 84...
That draw against panama Jed...just can't get over that 😐
After dropping down, we have moved back up 5 spaces to 54 once again in the World Rankings.
The other good part is we have overtaken Jamaica as Caribbean #1
http://m.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/index
CONCACAF TOP 6
24 MEX Mexico
33 USA USA
40 CRC Costa Rica
54 TRI Trinidad and Tobago
61 JAM Jamaica
65 PAN Panama
After dropping down, we have moved back up 5 spaces to 54 once again in the World Rankings.
The other good part is we have overtaken Jamaica as Caribbean #1
http://m.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/index
CONCACAF TOP 6
24 MEX Mexico
33 USA USA
40 CRC Costa Rica
54 TRI Trinidad and Tobago
61 JAM Jamaica
65 PAN Panama
At this point in time, does ranking matters?
We at 49 and 54. We so good we deserve two spots?
While we wait for them to sort that out, how cape verde reach so high up?
We at 49 and 54. We so good we deserve two spots?
While we wait for them to sort that out, how cape verde reach so high up?
Being inside the top 50 is a tremendous for our program and it can open more opportunities for our players, way to finish the year strong. Congrats to coach Hart and the team :beermug:We at 49 and 54. We so good we deserve two spots?
While we wait for them to sort that out, how cape verde reach so high up?
Latest ranking today we at
Worldwide #49
CONCACAF #4
CFU #1
We at 49 and 54. We so good we deserve two spots?Not only that, but they fell 7 spots and still sitting pretty.
While we wait for them to sort that out, how cape verde reach so high up?
We at 49 and 54. We so good we deserve two spots?Not only that, but they fell 7 spots and still sitting pretty.
While we wait for them to sort that out, how cape verde reach so high up?
We at 49 and 54. We so good we deserve two spots?
While we wait for them to sort that out, how cape verde reach so high up?
Must be your internet cache was not cleared from the last time. Jamaica is 54 and it is updated as far as I see
We at 49 and 54. We so good we deserve two spots?Not only that, but they fell 7 spots and still sitting pretty.
While we wait for them to sort that out, how cape verde reach so high up?
Cape Verde's squad isn't that bad actually - I think they have some good 2nd gen migrants - typical for island nations :p
Interesting that the only CAF nation in the Top 30 is Ivory Coast.
Interesting that the only CAF nation in the Top 30 is Ivory Coast.
Don't mean to step in and correct yuh Asylum. But Algeria is in Africa too. They are the second CAF nation under 30.
I know what you mean though. Geographically the North African teams are CAF. But culturally they have more ties to the middle east than Sub Sahara Africa. I occasionally make the mistake of not identifying them as a CAF team too.
I think Ghana is probably better than Ivory Coast. But the ranking tools say otherwise.
Interesting that the only CAF nation in the Top 30 is Ivory Coast.
Don't mean to step in and correct yuh Asylum. But Algeria is in Africa too. They are the second CAF nation under 30.
I know what you mean though. Geographically the North African teams are CAF. But culturally they have more ties to the middle east than Sub Sahara Africa. I occasionally make the mistake of not identifying them as a CAF team too.
I think Ghana is probably better than Ivory Coast. But the ranking tools say otherwise.
Good call. Dahis de price of skimming casually. Did not notice them above Ghana.
don't get carried away now..
and miss all the nice mangoes, gauva and breadfruit in the trees, aim a little lower and for stuff more beneficial..like a decent and consistent development program loldon't get carried away now..
Not getting carried away! But to reach the moon you need to aim for the stars!! :thumbsup:
The Haiti loss had nothing to do with it.How so, wasn't it an official FIFA competitive game? I thought those games carry more weight.
The Haiti loss had nothing to do with it.How so, wasn't it an official FIFA competitive game? I thought those games carry more weight.
That Haiti loss caused our decline, just to get things back in order and build on the wins from the last 2 games.
Here are the Top 10 in CONCACAF in the April 2016 FIFA Rankings:
16. Mexico (up 6)
25. Costa Rica (up 8.)
29. USA (up 1)
52. Panama (up 3)
53. Trinidad and Tobago (down 4)
54. Jamaica (down 2)
71. Haiti (down 7)
85. Antigua and Barbuda (up 5)
86. Honduras (up 3)
89. Guatemala (up 6)
Got you. I figured you dropped points for losing.The Haiti loss had nothing to do with it.How so, wasn't it an official FIFA competitive game? I thought those games carry more weight.
You don't lose points for losing number 1.
Number 2 those points were already factored in previously.
Number 3. Relative strength of opponents. The teams around us gained more points by beating stronger opponents. Full stop.
Number 4. Results fall off after 4 years. So results from March 2012 falling off may have affected our ranking. But I don't recall us being active in that month.
Well no surprise T&T continue to slide in the rankings. Watch earlier posts and you will see how far we have fallen. Look where Haiti and Curacao reach!
Here are the Top 10 in CONCACAF in the July 2017 FIFA Rankings.
16. Mexico
26. Costa Rica
36. USA
49. Haiti
52. Panama
68. Curacao
72. Honduras
76. Jamaica
78. Trinidad & Tobago
100. Canada
The Trinidad and Tobago National Senior Team slumped to their lowest international ranking in seven years today, as FIFA listed the Soca Warriors as 99th in the world, joint 10th in CONCACAF and fourth in the Caribbean.
Or, to put that into context, the last time the Warriors were ranked this low was in 2010 when then head coach Russell Latapy’s team were eliminated by Grenada in the group stage of the Caribbean Cup. Trinidad and Tobago were subsequently ranked 106th in the world.
Today’s FIFA rankings mean the Warriors have fallen a remarkable 50 places since David John-Williams was elected as Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president in November 2015.
At present, Trinidad and Tobago are on a seven game losing streak while current head coach Dennis Lawrence has won just two from 10 outings—against Panama and Barbados—since his appointment in February.
John-Williams recently told the media that Lawrence, a former assistant coach at Everton but now on his first assignment as head coach, will be given time to rebuild the national team. But the figures do not suggest that the Warriors have improved under the current coach or president; and, arguably, again put the president’s sacking of former coach Stephen Hart into focus.
Trinidad and Tobago were ranked 87th in the world by FIFA when then TTFA president Raymond Tim Kee announced the hiring of Hart as head coach.
And by the time John-Williams replaced Tim Kee at the helm, three years later, the Warriors—under Hart—had soared to 49th in the world and were fourth in CONCACAF and first in the Caribbean.
Had Trinidad and Tobago retained that average FIFA ranking, it would have meant that local footballers would be eligible for work permits in Britain for the first time since 2006.
Instead, the Warriors’ fortunes went in the opposite direction.
QuoteThe Trinidad and Tobago National Senior Team slumped to their lowest international ranking in seven years today, as FIFA listed the Soca Warriors as 99th in the world, joint 10th in CONCACAF and fourth in the Caribbean.
Or, to put that into context, the last time the Warriors were ranked this low was in 2010 when then head coach Russell Latapy’s team were eliminated by Grenada in the group stage of the Caribbean Cup. Trinidad and Tobago were subsequently ranked 106th in the world.
Today’s FIFA rankings mean the Warriors have fallen a remarkable 50 places since David John-Williams was elected as Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president in November 2015.
At present, Trinidad and Tobago are on a seven game losing streak while current head coach Dennis Lawrence has won just two from 10 outings—against Panama and Barbados—since his appointment in February.
John-Williams recently told the media that Lawrence, a former assistant coach at Everton but now on his first assignment as head coach, will be given time to rebuild the national team. But the figures do not suggest that the Warriors have improved under the current coach or president; and, arguably, again put the president’s sacking of former coach Stephen Hart into focus.
Trinidad and Tobago were ranked 87th in the world by FIFA when then TTFA president Raymond Tim Kee announced the hiring of Hart as head coach.
And by the time John-Williams replaced Tim Kee at the helm, three years later, the Warriors—under Hart—had soared to 49th in the world and were fourth in CONCACAF and first in the Caribbean.
Had Trinidad and Tobago retained that average FIFA ranking, it would have meant that local footballers would be eligible for work permits in Britain for the first time since 2006.
Instead, the Warriors’ fortunes went in the opposite direction.
FULL STORY (https://wired868.com/2017/09/14/t-warriors-now-50-places-below-pre-djw-position/)
Ranking is overrated.
Don't be fooled by this. We have been playing one match per international break while other teams play two.
...
Our ranking has completely fallen through the floor.
There is no strategy, direction or plan in the scheduling of friendlies to move the ranking forward. We just playing whoever like a lucky dip.
...
This is all on this admin.
Exactly. Part of the remit of federation should be charting a way forward to improving the ranking of the senior national teams.
We have no clear plan or direction in that regard
During the course of three calendar years, the national team’s ranking has plummeted almost 50 places. Nevertheless, the squad’s rank is not exclusively a complete reflection of Trinidad and Tobago’s quality on the field, or of the program’s budget limitations, but is also indicative of internal policies that are not strategically directed to the key indicators that most influence positive movement in the rankings".
https://www.socawarriors.net/senior-team-news/21803-2019-concacaf-gold-cup-guide-trinidad-and-tobago.html
we just slide down down and down
Overated!tell that to the 8 teams who go straight to the final round of World Cup qualifying, and the teams who are in the gold cup finals. won’t mind being overrated like that.
Not one African team in there and never a caribbean team..there’s not one afro caribbean or any afro team there not for a lack of talent but because they wank off too much, if you want to join such an illustrious group then you have to spend your money and spend it well. this is not rocket science, those who put in the work will reap the rewards. we in CFU can’t even come together to have a knock out league but we want positions of prominence?
That alone should tell both regions they need to break away ... no progress
August 2021 Concacaf Rankings:
1 Mexico (9th)
2 USA (10th)
3 Costa Rica (44th)
4 Jamaica (50th)
5 Canada (59th)
6 Honduras (63rd)
7 El Salvador (64th)
8 Panama (74th)
9 Curacao (78th)
10 Haiti (90th)
11 T&T (103rd)
Tajikistan 115 ranking lends some credence to the ranking system.
Nope, just meant that the teams on the field didn't look leagues apart. Always wondered about that in terms of teams from different federations that don't face each other often.Tajikistan 115 ranking lends some credence to the ranking system.
How so? Were they notably inferior?
I haven't seen the September ranking, but last month they were above 115. We should have the aim of entering the 90s and figuring out an ascent to cracking 70.
Tajikistan 115 ranking lends some credence to the ranking system.
How so? Were they notably inferior?
I haven't seen the September ranking, but last month they were above 115. We should have the aim of entering the 90s and figuring out an ascent to cracking 70.
Based on the highlight alone, TJK should be and soon would be ranked higher than many teams in its region. We on the other hand might take ah lil while.
Nope, just meant that the teams on the field didn't look leagues apart. Always wondered about that in terms of teams from different federations that don't face each other often.Tajikistan 115 ranking lends some credence to the ranking system.
How so? Were they notably inferior?
I haven't seen the September ranking, but last month they were above 115. We should have the aim of entering the 90s and figuring out an ascent to cracking 70.