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Title: Pele!
Post by: santacruz on March 06, 2007, 09:08:54 PM
i aint know if allyuh see this already, but as borat say we--wa-wa-wa!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFgkzOSBA2s


Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Pointman on March 06, 2007, 09:43:00 PM
i aint know if allyuh see this already, but as borat say we--wa-wa-wa!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFgkzOSBA2s




Whey all de Maradona lovers?
Maradona cyar carry Pele's jockstrap. The man was masterful, scoring goals with he right foot, left foot, head, penalty, direct, indirect.
Man getting beat left, right and center,
Pele=Football God...yuh hear dat Capo!! ;D

WHAT!!!
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: daryn on March 06, 2007, 10:25:48 PM
i aint know if allyuh see this already, but as borat say we--wa-wa-wa!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFgkzOSBA2s




Whey all de Maradona lovers?
Maradona cyar carry Pele's jockstrap. The man was masterful, scoring goals with he right foot, left foot, head, penalty, direct, indirect.
Pele=Football God...yuh hear dat Capo!! ;D

WHAT!!!

I really doh find them highlights compare to Zidane own (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYUtKKbBTkw).  In any case, is just highlights
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: saga pinto on March 07, 2007, 05:13:13 AM
i aint know if allyuh see this already, but as borat say we--wa-wa-wa!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFgkzOSBA2s




The problem though is peles era they was'nt pelting as much blade as when maradona played,they wanted to kill maradona and under those circumstances it's hard to measure if the roles were reversed who would have done better............

Whey all de Maradona lovers?
Maradona cyar carry Pele's jockstrap. The man was masterful, scoring goals with he right foot, left foot, head, penalty, direct, indirect.
Pele=Football God...yuh hear dat Capo!! ;D

WHAT!!!
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Fantastic on March 07, 2007, 09:41:55 AM
Long Live Diego!!!!!!!!!! Crackhead baller extraordinaire!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Fyzoman on March 07, 2007, 10:14:10 AM
the best 10-minutes ah de year so far for me...dis going and have all the maradona lovers scrambling for  highlights....oh and by de way i see real highlights ah other men, and ah never see dem get de kinda rugby tackle, and pull-off-pants tackle, dat pele get, the man nutmeging men by the threes dread.....ah agree is just highlights, but ah don't think it was staged?!?! level beat, drag, meg, you name it, de man do it.....ok lemme ketch meh breath....give thanks for the link bredda.....maradona who?!?!
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Mr Fix-it on March 07, 2007, 10:18:00 AM
the best 10-minutes ah de year so far for me...dis going and have all the maradona lovers scrambling for  highlights....oh and by de way i see real highlights ah other men, and ah never see dem get de kinda rugby tackle, and pull-off-pants tackle, dat pele get, the man nutmeging men by the threes dread.....ah agree is just highlights, but ah don't think it was staged?!?! level beat, drag, meg, you name it, de man do it.....ok lemme ketch meh breath....give thanks for the link bredda.....maradona who?!?!

De bess is when Pele belt 2 men wid de same belt :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: grskywalker on March 07, 2007, 10:37:24 AM
You ain't see them fouls geeeeezzz good thing they bring in that red card yes. Man was actually holding him from running
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Pointman on March 07, 2007, 04:31:14 PM
man was gehing Pele high fall and tings oui...and to think when I was small I thought man was just embellishing the Pele myth :o

The man was de BEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT!! WHEY CAAAAPPPPOOOOO!! :rotfl:
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Big Magician on March 07, 2007, 04:41:54 PM
enjoying pele really have nothing to do with dissing diego....two immortals of the game
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: trinikev on March 07, 2007, 04:47:01 PM
enjoying pele really have nothing to do with dissing diego....two immortals of the game

Well said Big Mag
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Pointman on March 07, 2007, 05:46:17 PM
enjoying pele really have nothing to do with dissing diego....two immortals of the game

Maradona don't belong in the same sentence with Pele. :devil:
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Daft Trini on March 07, 2007, 05:49:08 PM
enjoying pele really have nothing to do with dissing diego....two immortals of the game

Maradona don't belong in the same sentence with Pele. :devil:

I see him at the world cup and maradona let him self go, he eating real goo!
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Pointman on March 07, 2007, 05:59:25 PM
enjoying pele really have nothing to do with dissing diego....two immortals of the game

Maradona don't belong in the same sentence with Pele. :devil:

I see him at the world cup and maradona let him self go, he eating real goo!

Contrast that with how Pele look now...need I say more ::)
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Phensic on March 07, 2007, 06:06:56 PM
 :beermug: Sweet man.  There is footage there that I have never seen before...some amazing stuff.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Pointman on March 07, 2007, 06:41:02 PM
i aint know if allyuh see this already, but as borat say we--wa-wa-wa!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFgkzOSBA2s






Nobody was / is like Pele. talk done
Whey all de Maradona lovers?
Maradona cyar carry Pele's jockstrap. The man was masterful, scoring goals with he right foot, left foot, head, penalty, direct, indirect.
Pele=Football God...yuh hear dat Capo!! ;D

WHAT!!!

I really doh find them highlights compare to Zidane own (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYUtKKbBTkw).  In any case, is just highlights

Man might pound meh for this but Zizou is better than Diego, just my opinion.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: trinikev on March 07, 2007, 07:02:16 PM
enjoying pele really have nothing to do with dissing diego....two immortals of the game


Maradona don't belong in the same sentence with Pele. :devil:

I see him at the world cup and maradona let him self go, he eating real goo!

Contrast that with how Pele look now...need I say more ::)

Pointman, I could understand you saying Pele is better than Maradona based on his exploits on the field, but comparing how they both look now has nothing to do with who better
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: g on March 07, 2007, 07:21:54 PM
I'll always remember meh pops go on and on and on about this Edson Arantes do Nascimento all i know is Maradona in my young age but i real grateful to whoever put together that clip it will open up the eyes of many.

Yuh know yuh young when u watching d clip and saying he real looking like a young Ronaldo boy  ;D
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: daryn on March 07, 2007, 08:43:28 PM
i aint know if allyuh see this already, but as borat say we--wa-wa-wa!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFgkzOSBA2s





Man might pound meh for this but Zizou is better than Diego, just my opinion.

Nobody was / is like Pele. talk done
Whey all de Maradona lovers?
Maradona cyar carry Pele's jockstrap. The man was masterful, scoring goals with he right foot, left foot, head, penalty, direct, indirect.
Pele=Football God...yuh hear dat Capo!! ;D

WHAT!!!

I really doh find them highlights compare to Zidane own (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYUtKKbBTkw).  In any case, is just highlights

my point is that condensing pele career to 10 minutes of highlights will not settle the maradona vs pele debate.  nothing will.  I see plenty highlights of maradona that impress me just as much.  the only reason that Zidane doh figure in that debate very often is that he didn't have the "larger than life personality".

watch it again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYUtKKbBTkw
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: dumpalewie on March 07, 2007, 09:55:52 PM
i aint know if allyuh see this already, but as borat say we--wa-wa-wa!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFgkzOSBA2s





Man might pound meh for this but Zizou is better than Diego, just my opinion.

Nobody was / is like Pele. talk done
Whey all de Maradona lovers?
Maradona cyar carry Pele's jockstrap. The man was masterful, scoring goals with he right foot, left foot, head, penalty, direct, indirect.
Pele=Football God...yuh hear dat Capo!! ;D

WHAT!!!

I really doh find them highlights compare to Zidane own (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYUtKKbBTkw).  In any case, is just highlights

my point is that condensing pele career to 10 minutes of highlights will not settle the maradona vs pele debate.  nothing will.  I see plenty highlights of maradona that impress me just as much.  the only reason that Zidane doh figure in that debate very often is that he didn't have the "larger than life personality".

watch it again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYUtKKbBTkw
PELE FIRST

Anything else second.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Fyzoman on March 08, 2007, 02:58:24 AM
TALK DONE!
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Pointman on March 08, 2007, 07:27:06 AM
enjoying pele really have nothing to do with dissing diego....two immortals of the game


Maradona don't belong in the same sentence with Pele. :devil:

I see him at the world cup and maradona let him self go, he eating real goo!

Contrast that with how Pele look now...need I say more ::)

Pointman, I could understand you saying Pele is better than Maradona based on his exploits on the field, but comparing how they both look now has nothing to do with who better

True Trinikev, that was just one final stab(albeit below de belt) at Maradona. ;D
I really shouldn't be so harsh on Diego because I did like him in his hayday, he was a joy to watch. There really is no comparism between the two men though. Pele numbers/stats speak volumes.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Flex on March 08, 2007, 07:35:14 AM
 ;D  Football Freestyle (Zidane, Henry, C.Ronaldo, Ronaldinho.etc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttJlOZIW-Vk&mode=related&search=)
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: real madness on March 08, 2007, 07:36:36 AM
i aint know if allyuh see this already, but as borat say we--wa-wa-wa!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFgkzOSBA2s





Man might pound meh for this but Zizou is better than Diego, just my opinion.

Nobody was / is like Pele. talk done
Whey all de Maradona lovers?
Maradona cyar carry Pele's jockstrap. The man was masterful, scoring goals with he right foot, left foot, head, penalty, direct, indirect.
Pele=Football God...yuh hear dat Capo!! ;D

WHAT!!!

I really doh find them highlights compare to Zidane own (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYUtKKbBTkw).  In any case, is just highlights

my point is that condensing pele career to 10 minutes of highlights will not settle the maradona vs pele debate.  nothing will.  I see plenty highlights of maradona that impress me just as much.  the only reason that Zidane doh figure in that debate very often is that he didn't have the "larger than life personality".

watch it again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYUtKKbBTkw

personality have nothing to do with it...probably in the NBA that matters a lot (i.e. Tim Duncan).  Zidane not up there with Pele and Maradonna.  It is Pele and Maradonna..then everybody else..Ronaldinho, Zidane, Ronaldo, etc.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Pointman on March 08, 2007, 07:54:07 AM
i aint know if allyuh see this already, but as borat say we--wa-wa-wa!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFgkzOSBA2s





Man might pound meh for this but Zizou is better than Diego, just my opinion.

Nobody was / is like Pele. talk done
Whey all de Maradona lovers?
Maradona cyar carry Pele's jockstrap. The man was masterful, scoring goals with he right foot, left foot, head, penalty, direct, indirect.
Pele=Football God...yuh hear dat Capo!! ;D

WHAT!!!

I really doh find them highlights compare to Zidane own (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYUtKKbBTkw).  In any case, is just highlights

my point is that condensing pele career to 10 minutes of highlights will not settle the maradona vs pele debate.  nothing will.  I see plenty highlights of maradona that impress me just as much.  the only reason that Zidane doh figure in that debate very often is that he didn't have the "larger than life personality".

watch it again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYUtKKbBTkw

personality have nothing to do with it...probably in the NBA that matters a lot (i.e. Tim Duncan).  Zidane not up there with Pele and Maradonna.  It is Pele and Maradonna..then everybody else..Ronaldinho, Zidane, Ronaldo, etc.

Since Diego and Zinadine both have at least one world cup win to their names, I can put them in the same class. Pele in a whole other class, another level all together...he was the COMPLETE football package. Imagine Pele said the only feat he never accomplish in his career was to score a hatrick in a game with his head. I know plenty men who never even score a single goal with their head.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Pointman on March 08, 2007, 08:01:35 AM
Check de author

Monday, Jun. 14, 1999
The Phenomenon
By Henry Kissinger


Heroes walk alone, but they become myths when they ennoble the lives and touch the hearts of all of us. For those who love soccer, Edson Arantes do Nascimento, generally known as Pele, is a hero.

Performance at a high level in any sport is to exceed the ordinary human scale. But Pele's performance transcended that of the ordinary star by as much as the star exceeds ordinary performance. He scored an average of a goal in every international game he played--the equivalent of a baseball player's hitting a home run in every World Series game over 15 years. Between 1956 and 1974, Pele scored a total of 1,220 goals--not unlike hitting an average of 70 home runs every year for a decade and a half.

While he played, Brazil won the World Cup, staged quadrennially, three times in 12 years. He scored five goals in a game six times, four goals 30 times and three goals 90 times. And he did so not aloofly or disdainfully--as do many modern stars--but with an infectious joy that caused even the teams over which he triumphed to share in his pleasure, for it is no disgrace to be defeated by a phenomenon defying emulation.

He was born across the mountains from the great coastal cities of Brazil, in the impoverished town of Tres Coracoes. Nicknamed Dico by his family, he was called Pele by soccer friends, a word whose origins escape him. Dico shined shoes until he was discovered at the age of 11 by one of the country's premier players, Waldemar de Brito. Four years later, De Brito brought Pele to Sao Paulo and declared to the disbelieving directors of the professional team in Santos, "This boy will be the greatest soccer player in the world." He was quickly legend. By the next season, he was the top scorer in his league. As the Times of London would later say, "How do you spell Pele? G-O-D." He has been known to stop war: both sides in Nigeria's civil war called a 48-hour cease-fire in 1967 so Pele could play an exhibition match in the capital of Lagos.

To understand Pele's role in soccer, some discussion of the nature of the game is necessary. No team sport evokes the same sort of primal, universal passion as soccer. During the World Cup, the matches of the national football teams impose television schedules on the rhythm of life. Last year I attended a dinner for leading members of the British establishment and distinguished guests from all over the world at the staid Spencer House in London. The hosts had the bad luck to have chosen the night of the match between England and Argentina--always a blood feud, compounded on this occasion by the memory of the Falklands crisis. The impeccable audience (or at least enough of it to influence the hosts) insisted that television sets be set up at strategic locations, during both the reception and the dinner. The match went into overtime and required a penalty shoot-out afterward, so the main speaker did not get to deliver his message until 11 p.m. And since England lost, the audience was not precisely in a mood for anything but mourning.

When France finally won the World Cup, Paris was paralyzed with joy for nearly 48 hours, Brazil by dejection for a similar period of time. I was in Brazil in 1962 when the national team won the World Cup in Chile. Everything stopped for two days while Rio celebrated a premature carnival.

There is no comparable phenomenon in the U.S. Our fans do not identify with their teams in such a way partly because American team sports are more cerebral and require a degree of skill that is beyond the reach of the layman. Baseball, for instance, requires a bundle of disparate skills: hitting a ball thrown at 90 m.p.h., catching a ball flying at the speed of a bullet, and throwing long distances with great accuracy. Football requires a different set of skills for each of its 11 positions. The U.S. spectator thus finds himself viewing two discrete events: what is actually taking place on the playing field and the translation of it into detailed and minute statistics. He wants his team to win, but he is also committed to the statistical triumph of the star he admires. The American sports hero is like Joe DiMaggio--a kind of Lone Ranger who walks in solitude beyond the reach of common experience, lifting us beyond ourselves.

Soccer is an altogether different sort of game. All 11 players must possess the same type of skills--especially in modern soccer, where the distinction between offensive and defensive players has dissolved. Being continuous, the game does not lend itself to being broken down into a series of component plays that, as in football or baseball, can be practiced. Baseball and football thrill by the perfection of their repetitions, soccer by the improvisation of solutions to ever changing strategic necessities. Soccer requires little equipment, other than a pair of shoes. Everybody believes he can play soccer. And it can be played by any number of players as a pickup game. Thus soccer outside North America is truly a game for the masses, which can identify with its passions, its sudden triumphs and its inevitable disillusionments. Baseball and football are an exaltation of the human experience; soccer is its incarnation.

Pele is therefore a different phenomenon from the baseball or football star. Soccer stars are dependent on their teams even while transcending them. To achieve mythic status as a soccer player is especially difficult because the peak performance is generally quite short--only the fewest players perform at the top of their game for more than five years. Incredibly, Pele performed at the highest level for 18 years, scoring 52 goals in 1973, his 17th year. Contemporary soccer superstars never reach even 50 goals a season. For Pele, who had thrice scored more than 100 goals a year, it signaled retirement.

The mythic status of Pele derives as well from the way he incarnated the character of Brazil's national team. Its style affirms that virtue without joy is a contradiction in terms. Its players are the most acrobatic, if not always the most proficient. Brazilian teams play with a contagious exuberance. When those yellow shirts go on the attack--which is most of the time--and their fans cheer to the intoxicating beat of samba bands, soccer becomes a ritual of fluidity and grace. In Pele's day, the Brazilians epitomized soccer as fantasy.

I saw Pele at his peak only once, at the final of the World Cup in 1970. Brazil's opponent was Italy, which played its tough defense coupled with sudden thrusts to tie the game 1-1, demoralizing the Brazilians. Italy could very easily have massed its defense even more, until its frantic opponent began making the mistakes that would encompass its ruin. But, led by Pele, Brazil paid no attention. Attacking as if the Italians were a practice team, the Brazilians ran them into the ground, 4-1.

I saw Pele a few times afterward, when he was playing for the New York Cosmos. He was no longer as fast, but he was as exuberant as ever. By then, Pele had become an institution. Most modern fans never saw him play, yet they somehow feel he is part of their lives. He made the transition from superstar to mythic figure.

Henry Kissinger, former Secretary of State, was instrumental in bringing World Cup soccer to the U.S. in 1994
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: real madness on March 08, 2007, 08:25:25 AM
Pointman,
if u using world cup wins to separate pele and maradonna then put maradonna in the same class as zidane, then it is the case that cafu, mauro, zagalo,zito, djalma santos, zozimo and pepe are betther than zidane and diego because they won more than1 world cup. 

I understand what yuh saying about Pele..I agree that he is the best ever (just my opinion..no right or wrong answer to the best player ever unless yuh tell mih some stupidness like alibey or cristian ronaldo) but diego did his fair share of great stuff..i.e leading napoli to the top in Italy with a bunch of scrubs.  besides careca, alemao, and fernando de napoli there wasnt much else on that team.

I think maradonna will always lose out on the best ever player accolade because of his drug problems, that will always be a blemish on his career... :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Pointman on March 08, 2007, 08:29:46 AM
Pointman,
if u using world cup wins to separate pele and maradonna then put maradonna in the same class as zidane, then it is the case that cafu, mauro, zagalo,zito, djalma santos, zozimo and pepe are betther than zidane and diego because they won more than1 world cup. 

I understand what yuh saying about Pele..I agree that he is the best ever (just my opinion..no right or wrong answer to the best player ever unless yuh tell mih some stupidness like alibey or cristian ronaldo) but diego did his fair share of great stuff..i.e leading napoli to the top in Italy with a bunch of scrubs.  besides careca, alemao, and fernando de napoli there wasnt much else on that team.

I think maradonna will always lose out on the best ever player accolade because of his drug problems, that will always be a blemish on his career... :beermug: :beermug:


What about shear football stats like the ones mentioned in the above article? To me that alone should separate Pele from the pack.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 08, 2007, 08:39:18 AM
Pointman,
if u using world cup wins to separate pele and maradonna then put maradonna in the same class as zidane, then it is the case that cafu, mauro, zagalo,zito, djalma santos, zozimo and pepe are betther than zidane and diego because they won more than1 world cup. 

I understand what yuh saying about Pele..I agree that he is the best ever (just my opinion..no right or wrong answer to the best player ever unless yuh tell mih some stupidness like alibey or cristian ronaldo) but diego did his fair share of great stuff..i.e leading napoli to the top in Italy with a bunch of scrubs.  besides careca, alemao, and fernando de napoli there wasnt much else on that team.

I think maradonna will always lose out on the best ever player accolade because of his drug problems, that will always be a blemish on his career... :beermug: :beermug:


What about shear football stats like the ones mentioned in the above article? To me that alone should separate Pele from the pack.

    Not only that, but, once you really take it in, the article describes how, for the rest of the world, Pele's grace and abilities practically transcended the sport.  Upon his arrival on the international scene, the whole world stopped and watched as Pele did his magic, and he almost immediately became the barometer for greatness.......and to this day, he still is.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: FF on March 08, 2007, 09:09:44 AM
What separate Pele for me was indeed his completeness as a player.... allyuh find ah copy of Pele Eterno and watch dat....

for years many ppl did not know if Pele was a right footer or a left footer... de man scoring anyting... bullet... tap in ... header... solo bentley.... bicycle..... everything....

Maradona is de next boss..... but i personally give Pele the edge.... this don't take away from anybody who opinion different....
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: real madness on March 08, 2007, 09:15:30 AM
Pointman,
if u using world cup wins to separate pele and maradonna then put maradonna in the same class as zidane, then it is the case that cafu, mauro, zagalo,zito, djalma santos, zozimo and pepe are betther than zidane and diego because they won more than1 world cup. 

I understand what yuh saying about Pele..I agree that he is the best ever (just my opinion..no right or wrong answer to the best player ever unless yuh tell mih some stupidness like alibey or cristian ronaldo) but diego did his fair share of great stuff..i.e leading napoli to the top in Italy with a bunch of scrubs.  besides careca, alemao, and fernando de napoli there wasnt much else on that team.

I think maradonna will always lose out on the best ever player accolade because of his drug problems, that will always be a blemish on his career... :beermug: :beermug:


What about shear football stats like the ones mentioned in the above article? To me that alone should separate Pele from the pack.

i eh disagreeing that pele is de best, just saying be careful when yuh using stats to support an argument..a pele detractor can argue that pele didnt contribute much to the 1962 world cup win.  personally, i have seen more maradonna games than pele games (seen mostly highlights of pele..i.e. videos) and based on that i would say pele is de boss...i saw clips of pele not scoring goals that were fantastic because the plays he made to  create the chance were simply remarkable.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 08, 2007, 09:26:01 AM
enjoying pele really have nothing to do with dissing diego....two immortals of the game

Maradona don't belong in the same sentence with Pele. :devil:
ah cyar say silent,yuh overbearin,ah feel ah argentine thief yuh gyul from yuh.lol.there is no doubt about pele's skill and genius,the man is ah football god.but comparing zidane to diego,yuh higher than ah kite.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Pointman on March 08, 2007, 01:21:26 PM
enjoying pele really have nothing to do with dissing diego....two immortals of the game

Maradona don't belong in the same sentence with Pele. :devil:
ah cyar say silent,yuh overbearin,ah feel ah argentine thief yuh gyul from yuh.lol.there is no doubt about pele's skill and genius,the man is ah football god.but comparing zidane to diego,yuh higher than ah kite.

ah now saying like Capo dead or what, ah know you would surface sooner or later.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Fyzoman on March 08, 2007, 02:24:29 PM
ahh  boy Pointman dey cause yuh to go to dip in de archives for dat article, Brilliant!!
ah know real footballers and man who know dey football respect both Diego and Pele, but only men who REALLY know football KNOW dat PELE was/is/forever-will-be de best!! on a related note, yuh could imagine PELE scoring ah goal wid he hand in a big WC game like Diego did and running away and celebrating like Diego did???? sorry eh, but i cyah formulate dat image in meh head (dis is just me eh)....ahh de character of de great Pele.....
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Deeks on March 08, 2007, 09:24:12 PM
The debate goes on and on. they are both great. But they are from different eras. Both are great dribblers. Diego maybe the better midfield play maker, but Pele could carry the ball too. One thing I know,  Diego was not better at headers and bicycle kick. The  other thing Diego has over the King, is that he played in Europe and had all the tv exposure. In Pele's era, Brazilian hardly use to go Europe. That would be sacriligeous. But not now. My sentiments are with Pele, but Diego is very close. Even with all his problem. The debate continues.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Tenorsaw on March 08, 2007, 10:43:41 PM
i aint know if allyuh see this already, but as borat say we--wa-wa-wa!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFgkzOSBA2s




Whey all de Maradona lovers?
Maradona cyar carry Pele's jockstrap. The man was masterful, scoring goals with he right foot, left foot, head, penalty, direct, indirect.
Man getting beat left, right and center,
Pele=Football God...yuh hear dat Capo!! ;D

WHAT!!!

Ah have to concede that de man is ah boss.  He has so much time to play the ball .  touch on like ah boil corn, and he scoring and assisting.  Who really better boy:  Pele or Mara?  This video ain't do nothing to hurt Pele in that debate.  Now somebody bring ah Mara highlight reel.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Filho on March 08, 2007, 11:12:43 PM
that video nearly make me cry. Pele didn't eat nice at all. Even when you hit him a jam he still getting the lucky bounce. He wasn't a ball ho'...like the ball was a Pele ho'. And after all dat beat is a piping hot bullet. The ball in the back of the net and Pele toe still stick up in de air, leg straight out and his head almost touching he knee. There was a section where they show you the kind of blade dat used to pelt behind Pele. Man pulling down his pants all kinda thing. I read that yellow cards were finally introduced in the 1970 WC after FIFA realize that Pele literally got kicked out the 1966 WC. Not even trying to confirm that at this time of night. Somebody please enlighten me if I wrong. The opposition realize all they had to do was mash him up. Whey!!! And the saddest thing is in those days they did not film many of Pele's games...Unlike modern days where you can see everything Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo and co. did in their prime...what you see of Pele is just a fraction. There is so much more that will perish with the few that actually got to see it live
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Pointman on March 12, 2007, 02:36:06 PM
The debate goes on and on. they are both great. But they are from different eras. Both are great dribblers. Diego maybe the better midfield play maker, but Pele could carry the ball too. One thing I know,  Diego was not better at headers and bicycle kick. The  other thing Diego has over the King, is that he played in Europe and had all the tv exposure. In Pele's era, Brazilian hardly use to go Europe. That would be sacriligeous. But not now. My sentiments are with Pele, but Diego is very close. Even with all his problem. The debate continues.

This arguement has been used to support Diego's claim to football supremecy(sp) but Pele's Santos use to mash up dem same European teams in Championship matches. The level of football in Brazil in Pele'e era was quite high.

PS

Pele probably would have gone to Europe to play but was prevented from doing so by the Brazilian gov't.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Observer on March 12, 2007, 03:26:47 PM
For all the people who never really see Pele with Santos. I recommend a video called Pele Eterno.
It shows you Santos and Pele spanking the Champions of Europe at the time, Benfica, Milan and then to show it was no fluke Inter. Back to Back, with Benfica who had killed of the dominance of Real being spanked 5-0 in Portugal  oouch ;D
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: takenoprisoners on March 12, 2007, 05:53:33 PM
that video nearly make me cry. Pele didn't eat nice at all. Even when you hit him a jam he still getting the lucky bounce. He wasn't a ball ho'...like the ball was a Pele ho'. And after all dat beat is a piping hot bullet. The ball in the back of the net and Pele toe still stick up in de air, leg straight out and his head almost touching he knee. There was a section where they show you the kind of blade dat used to pelt behind Pele. Man pulling down his pants all kinda thing. I read that yellow cards were finally introduced in the 1970 WC after FIFA realize that Pele literally got kicked out the 1966 WC. Not even trying to confirm that at this time of night. Somebody please enlighten me if I wrong. The opposition realize all they had to do was mash him up. Whey!!! And the saddest thing is in those days they did not film many of Pele's games...Unlike modern days where you can see everything Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo and co. did in their prime...what you see of Pele is just a fraction. There is so much more that will perish with the few that actually got to see it live

You are correck, man name was Morais, also check out the link for the top ten hard men.
Gentile  of Italy was not easy.
http://worldcup.uk.msn.com/features/top10hardmen/

10 Morais
Portugal's 1966 World Cup team figured if they could stop Pele they could stop Brazil, and so it proved. Mario Coluna was given the man-marking duties on the Brazilian great but it was Morais who decided to give his team one less thing to worry about. A sublime shuffle of the feet from Pele took the ball away from Morais, whose late tackle sent him skyward before tumbling to earth. However, with the ball loose and no foul given, Pele was first to his feet, only for Morais to have a second bite at him, this time taking a shin-high swipe which forced Pele to limp off the pitch and out of the World Cup. Pele swore he would never play in the tournament again but thankfully relented for the 1970 finals in Mexico.
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 12, 2007, 10:26:42 PM
that video nearly make me cry. Pele didn't eat nice at all. Even when you hit him a jam he still getting the lucky bounce. He wasn't a ball ho'...like the ball was a Pele ho'. And after all dat beat is a piping hot bullet. The ball in the back of the net and Pele toe still stick up in de air, leg straight out and his head almost touching he knee. There was a section where they show you the kind of blade dat used to pelt behind Pele. Man pulling down his pants all kinda thing. I read that yellow cards were finally introduced in the 1970 WC after FIFA realize that Pele literally got kicked out the 1966 WC. Not even trying to confirm that at this time of night. Somebody please enlighten me if I wrong. The opposition realize all they had to do was mash him up. Whey!!! And the saddest thing is in those days they did not film many of Pele's games...Unlike modern days where you can see everything Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo and co. did in their prime...what you see of Pele is just a fraction. There is so much more that will perish with the few that actually got to see it live

You are correck, man name was Morais, also check out the link for the top ten hard men.
Gentile  of Italy was not easy.
http://worldcup.uk.msn.com/features/top10hardmen/

10 Morais
Portugal's 1966 World Cup team figured if they could stop Pele they could stop Brazil, and so it proved. Mario Coluna was given the man-marking duties on the Brazilian great but it was Morais who decided to give his team one less thing to worry about. A sublime shuffle of the feet from Pele took the ball away from Morais, whose late tackle sent him skyward before tumbling to earth. However, with the ball loose and no foul given, Pele was first to his feet, only for Morais to have a second bite at him, this time taking a shin-high swipe which forced Pele to limp off the pitch and out of the World Cup. Pele swore he would never play in the tournament again but thankfully relented for the 1970 finals in Mexico.

   Man, you eh lie at all, that is an understatement!! After that '82 World Cup, Claudio Gentile should have been charged with assault of the highest degree, and taken directly to jail to take Paolo Rossi's place.  No lie!!
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: takenoprisoners on March 13, 2007, 08:33:51 AM
that video nearly make me cry. Pele didn't eat nice at all. Even when you hit him a jam he still getting the lucky bounce. He wasn't a ball ho'...like the ball was a Pele ho'. And after all dat beat is a piping hot bullet. The ball in the back of the net and Pele toe still stick up in de air, leg straight out and his head almost touching he knee. There was a section where they show you the kind of blade dat used to pelt behind Pele. Man pulling down his pants all kinda thing. I read that yellow cards were finally introduced in the 1970 WC after FIFA realize that Pele literally got kicked out the 1966 WC. Not even trying to confirm that at this time of night. Somebody please enlighten me if I wrong. The opposition realize all they had to do was mash him up. Whey!!! And the saddest thing is in those days they did not film many of Pele's games...Unlike modern days where you can see everything Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo and co. did in their prime...what you see of Pele is just a fraction. There is so much more that will perish with the few that actually got to see it live

You are correck, man name was Morais, also check out the link for the top ten hard men.
Gentile  of Italy was not easy.
http://worldcup.uk.msn.com/features/top10hardmen/

10 Morais
Portugal's 1966 World Cup team figured if they could stop Pele they could stop Brazil, and so it proved. Mario Coluna was given the man-marking duties on the Brazilian great but it was Morais who decided to give his team one less thing to worry about. A sublime shuffle of the feet from Pele took the ball away from Morais, whose late tackle sent him skyward before tumbling to earth. However, with the ball loose and no foul given, Pele was first to his feet, only for Morais to have a second bite at him, this time taking a shin-high swipe which forced Pele to limp off the pitch and out of the World Cup. Pele swore he would never play in the tournament again but thankfully relented for the 1970 finals in Mexico.

   Man, you eh lie at all, that is an understatement!! After that '82 World Cup, Claudio Gentile should have been charged with assault of the highest degree, and taken directly to jail to take Paolo Rossi's place.  No lie!!

Yeah boss Gentile was not genteel. ;D

How did they stop Pele in 1966?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LgYDPrF18Q
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: ANC2 on March 13, 2007, 09:36:49 AM
Gentile rip off Zico shirt in the game yes. Diego take kick and cuff from him.
But I see Mataratzzi do worst than that. Dat is animal. I hope someone really
deal with he
Title: Re: Pele!
Post by: pardners on March 13, 2007, 11:33:23 AM
Allyuh accept the facts nah...

Two different men, different teams, different eras, different opponents, different rules, different pitches, different supporting casts....and ah could go on and on.

Accept the two of them for who they are, and what they did on the field nah.
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