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Title: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: sinned on March 07, 2007, 05:59:51 PM
Just out of curiosity I want to see what the intellects of this forum think
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: D.H.W on March 07, 2007, 06:10:34 PM
Kaka aint have nothin on Ronaldo
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Blue on March 07, 2007, 06:16:29 PM
When they met the other day (Brazil vs. Portugal) it was Ronaldo who ran the show.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: DeSoWa on March 07, 2007, 06:20:36 PM
Lets face it CR only critiques are his diving and sometimes overdribbling...but take dat away and he is pure class  :beermug:

Big Up!
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: D.H.W on March 07, 2007, 06:21:41 PM
When they met the other day (Brazil vs. Portugal) it was Ronaldo who ran the show.
exactly tell them kaka fan boys tht nah
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Papachunks on March 07, 2007, 06:41:03 PM
Hands down Ronaldo....but i hadda say the man's diving skills does real lose him points. What i dont understand is why a fella who is top draw, hadda dive like that.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Grande on March 07, 2007, 06:42:41 PM
EPL fans say Ronaldo....suprise suprise.

Kaka is a higher class of player than C. Ronaldo.

C. Ronaldo is not a very intelligent player in my opinion. He dribbles too much, until either he gets fouled, loses the ball, or has to pass it back. As soon as he get the ball is automatic dribbling...and teammates does be wide open waiting for him to pass the ball. A tendency to dive too. I will give him props for his assist today though, but otherwise he was being his usual self. He lucky he young so he can learn the game more.

Kaka is wiser. Kaka not only has footballing feet but footballing brains: creativity, imagination, finesse and always an eye for goal. Milan should center their game around him more.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Organic on March 07, 2007, 06:47:48 PM
EPL fans say Ronaldo....suprise suprise.

Kaka is a higher class of player than C. Ronaldo.

C. Ronaldo is not a very intelligent player in my opinion. He dribbles too much, until either he gets fouled, loses the ball, or has to pass it back. As soon as he get the ball is automatic dribbling...and teammates does be wide open waiting for him to pass the ball. A tendency to dive too. I will give him props for his assist today though, but otherwise he was being his usual self. He lucky he young so he can learn the game more.

Kaka is wiser. Kaka not only has footballing feet but footballing brains: creativity, imagination, finesse and always an eye for goal. Milan should center their game around him more.
i arree kaka is a better all aroudn player
and have more common sense.

ronnaldo have bag ah skill but lord fadda..everything is a flick and a skip one ah dese days he go trip he self..lol
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: sinned on March 07, 2007, 06:50:14 PM
EPL fans say Ronaldo....suprise suprise.

Kaka is a higher class of player than C. Ronaldo.

C. Ronaldo is not a very intelligent player in my opinion. He dribbles too much, until either he gets fouled, loses the ball, or has to pass it back. As soon as he get the ball is automatic dribbling...and teammates does be wide open waiting for him to pass the ball. A tendency to dive too. I will give him props for his assist today though, but otherwise he was being his usual self. He lucky he young so he can learn the game more.

Kaka is wiser. Kaka not only has footballing feet but footballing brains: creativity, imagination, finesse and always an eye for goal. Milan should center their game around him more.

Couldn't agree more - Kaka is just the complete player - can shoot and pass brilliantly with both feet. He runs so hard all game and even if he's having an off game in terms of touch he makes up for it by running more and harder. He is so much more complete  than CR it's really not a contest in my mind
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Grande on March 07, 2007, 06:52:35 PM
EPL fans say Ronaldo....suprise suprise.

Kaka is a higher class of player than C. Ronaldo.

C. Ronaldo is not a very intelligent player in my opinion. He dribbles too much, until either he gets fouled, loses the ball, or has to pass it back. As soon as he get the ball is automatic dribbling...and teammates does be wide open waiting for him to pass the ball. A tendency to dive too. I will give him props for his assist today though, but otherwise he was being his usual self. He lucky he young so he can learn the game more.

Kaka is wiser. Kaka not only has footballing feet but footballing brains: creativity, imagination, finesse and always an eye for goal. Milan should center their game around him more.
i arree kaka is a better all aroudn player
and have more common sense.

ronnaldo have bag ah skill but lord fadda..everything is a flick and a skip one ah dese days he go trip he self..lol

yeah man to me that is pretty much de bottom line
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: DeSoWa on March 07, 2007, 06:56:39 PM
EPL fans say Ronaldo....suprise suprise.

Kaka is a higher class of player than C. Ronaldo.

C. Ronaldo is not a very intelligent player in my opinion. He dribbles too much, until either he gets fouled, loses the ball, or has to pass it back. As soon as he get the ball is automatic dribbling...and teammates does be wide open waiting for him to pass the ball. A tendency to dive too. I will give him props for his assist today though, but otherwise he was being his usual self. He lucky he young so he can learn the game more.

Kaka is wiser. Kaka not only has footballing feet but footballing brains: creativity, imagination, finesse and always an eye for goal. Milan should center their game around him more.

I hear yuh...buh check how much goals CR have dis season and then check how much assist he have to go wid it...he is not as selfish as some people make him out to be...doh let the diving cloud yuh judgement  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: trinikev on March 07, 2007, 07:10:59 PM
DeSowa is right, CR is not as selfish as ppl make him out to be. He is the sole reason IMO that Man Boo is leading the premiership this season, his goals and assists have them on top, he has definitely grown and matured as a player.

That being said, I still give the adge to Kaka right now, just because of his football intelligence. Grande man said it right, he plays just as much with his brain as he does with his feet, and he has the technical ability to match his imagination.

Watch out for CR tho, if he matures even more and plays a little bit more with his head, I think he would be better than Kaka
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Ponnoxx on March 07, 2007, 07:19:34 PM
 C.Ronaldo not even in Kaka book far less the same page...Kaka is pure class...C.Ronaldo having a great a season right now but he no way as influential as Kaka...Kaka could take a team on his back and come up with the goods...To me its no comparision...C.Ronaldo is nothing to Kaka...Allyuh studying the assist C.Ronaldo had today...Study the goal Kaka score today under greater pressure...Hopefully AC meet Man U and we will see the contest
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Grande on March 07, 2007, 07:40:26 PM
DeSowa is right, CR is not as selfish as ppl make him out to be. He is the sole reason IMO that Man Boo is leading the premiership this season, his goals and assists have them on top, he has definitely grown and matured as a player.

That being said, I still give the adge to Kaka right now, just because of his football intelligence. Grande man said it right, he plays just as much with his brain as he does with his feet, and he has the technical ability to match his imagination.

Watch out for CR tho, if he matures even more and plays a little bit more with his head, I think he would be better than Kaka

Trinikev I agree if C. Ronaldo matures more he'll be a better player than he is now, but remember Kaka will also be maturing at de same time, from what he is now...so ultimately I doh think my vote will change  :beermug:
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: banton on March 07, 2007, 07:48:33 PM
EPL fans say Ronaldo....suprise suprise.

Kaka is a higher class of player than C. Ronaldo.

C. Ronaldo is not a very intelligent player in my opinion. He dribbles too much, until either he gets fouled, loses the ball, or has to pass it back. As soon as he get the ball is automatic dribbling...and teammates does be wide open waiting for him to pass the ball. A tendency to dive too. I will give him props for his assist today though, but otherwise he was being his usual self. He lucky he young so he can learn the game more.

Kaka is wiser. Kaka not only has footballing feet but footballing brains: creativity, imagination, finesse and always an eye for goal. Milan should center their game around him more.


couldnt say it better my self
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Papachunks on March 07, 2007, 07:56:56 PM
Well dere really is only one way to settle it, Milan vs. Manchester Champions, Ronaldo will raise his game for it, he needs that kinda challenge.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Filho on March 07, 2007, 08:06:24 PM
I giving Kaka the edge because he has consistently been the better player up until WC 2006. Since then, CR has taken center stage.
C Ronaldo is in better form. I always liked him even when he was getting stick for diving, but lately, his play has been superior to just about every baller on the planet, including Kaka. But the same could be said of Kaka up until the WC when he was probably the best player at Milan and on the Brazil squad. Kaka started the WC well and scored a sweet goal against Croatia. But he also got injured in that game and played on despite his injury and faded badly in the tournament. So many of the Brazilians have been slow to recover from the disappointment of WC 2006. But Kaka is showing signs and is almost back to his best for Milan. This Is C. Ronaldo break out year as far as the EPL is concerned. His performances for Portugal have been eye-catching since Euro 2004. I real like both players but the kind of goals Kaka scores and some of his attacking play in the most notorioulsy defensive league is amazing. His goal against Argentina in the friendly at the Emirates. You have to admit...not too many players could do that. OR the pass to Crespo in the CL final that Liverpool won. Unreal. It is just a matter of personal preference I guess. Both are pure class though.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: JDB on March 07, 2007, 08:09:59 PM
You could choose either one depending on your taste. One is a classic winger the next is a central playmaker. You could say that Kaka looks more classy and I could say that Ronaldo is more powerful or explosive.

Ronaldo's job is to beat men, pressure teams with pace and put in crosses and get goals. Kaka's job is different. I would say that Kaka CANNOT do what Ronaldo does and it would be a waste of his talents to try. Ronaldo may not have the disposition to play Kaka's role and he definitely doesn't have experience playing the role. Also it wouldn't be the best use of his abilities. Remember the reason wingers are fast and play out wide is because that is where the space is.

Saying Ronaldo is less of a player than Kaka, based his style of play, is like saying that John Terry is less than Deco. Now if he wasn't good at what he does that would be a different story but the man is one of the best wingers in the world so he can't be that bad.

Also most of the Ronaldo knockers are basing their assessment on past performance and certainly not on current form. He has been very unselfish this season and he is reaping the benefits. For those who say that he has no end product and has been figured out look at the fact that he has increased his goals and assists every season. He is developing well.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: kicker on March 07, 2007, 08:14:35 PM
Both players are very good at what they do, they both work hard, have good individual skill and technique and they both benefit from a bit of the "great white hype" attention.....(especially Kaka).....so at the end of the day it's really six of one, half a dozen of the other....

In different situations and different parts of the field, they would each have their moment to shine.....
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Trini Madness on March 07, 2007, 08:16:31 PM
de underrated quaresma
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: jai john on March 07, 2007, 08:19:35 PM
I guess this is the emotional response column... how do you compare a winger with a midfield player ? is it who has the most goals, assists dribbles ?
unless you establish a criteria then its the oranges vs apples syndrome isn´t it ?
So when they meet ...what decides the better player again ?
Has anyone compared Ronaldo with quaresma ? These for me are the two best wingers in world football at the moment...lightening fast, score goals, fancy dribbles and a bit of style to go with all this ...does that mean that they are better footballers than Eissen for example ? he is less fancy, scores less goals, does less dribbles ????
So you see without a criteria its just you against me and that has as many verdicts as there are people with computers !

Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: D.H.W on March 07, 2007, 08:24:15 PM
feck all u ronaldo haters he is d best  ;D i say so  :P
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: sinned on March 07, 2007, 08:28:10 PM
I guess this is the emotional response column... how do you compare a winger with a midfield player ? is it who has the most goals, assists dribbles ?
unless you establish a criteria then its the oranges vs apples syndrome isn´t it ?
So when they meet ...what decides the better player again ?
Has anyone compared Ronaldo with quaresma ? These for me are the two best wingers in world football at the moment...lightening fast, score goals, fancy dribbles and a bit of style to go with all this ...does that mean that they are better footballers than Eissen for example ? he is less fancy, scores less goals, does less dribbles ????
So you see without a criteria its just you against me and that has as many verdicts as there are people with computers !



alright well if u can't compare them then pretend you are manager of a club team and you have no players yet and you are told you can either buy CR or Kaka as your first player to build your team around. who would you pick?
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: jai john on March 07, 2007, 08:39:00 PM
I guess this is the emotional response column... how do you compare a winger with a midfield player ? is it who has the most goals, assists dribbles ?
unless you establish a criteria then its the oranges vs apples syndrome isn´t it ?
So when they meet ...what decides the better player again ?
Has anyone compared Ronaldo with quaresma ? These for me are the two best wingers in world football at the moment...lightening fast, score goals, fancy dribbles and a bit of style to go with all this ...does that mean that they are better footballers than Eissen for example ? he is less fancy, scores less goals, does less dribbles ????
So you see without a criteria its just you against me and that has as many verdicts as there are people with computers !



alright well if u can't compare them then pretend you are manager of a club team and you have no players yet and you are told you can either buy CR or Kaka as your first player to build your team around. who would you pick?

Your simplistic analysis reminds me of the schoolboy days when you lined up behind de man who picked you .....  you should remember that it was not always the first pick player´s team which ended up the winner.
I would hope if I was a club manager that i would be given the choice to at least be given the option to select what position i wanted to fill first rather than which player i first wanted on my team. Football is not 1 v 1 but a team game and that is why I said unless you establish a criteria you cant compare the importance of players to a team if they are both very good in their respective individual roles.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: trinikev on March 07, 2007, 08:48:22 PM
DeSowa is right, CR is not as selfish as ppl make him out to be. He is the sole reason IMO that Man Boo is leading the premiership this season, his goals and assists have them on top, he has definitely grown and matured as a player.

That being said, I still give the adge to Kaka right now, just because of his football intelligence. Grande man said it right, he plays just as much with his brain as he does with his feet, and he has the technical ability to match his imagination.

Watch out for CR tho, if he matures even more and plays a little bit more with his head, I think he would be better than Kaka

Trinikev I agree if C. Ronaldo matures more he'll be a better player than he is now, but remember Kaka will also be maturing at de same time, from what he is now...so ultimately I doh think my vote will change  :beermug:

I hear what yuh saying Grande, respeck  :beermug:
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: JDB on March 07, 2007, 08:49:56 PM
Jai is right it is not a simple comparison.

Different managers will also have different philosophies. If you love 4-4-2 you could go with Ronaldo, if you play a different style you might pick Kaka.

Neither player is indubitably a better choice to build a side upon because they are bothe good players with tremendous potential.

 
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: sinned on March 07, 2007, 08:50:20 PM
I guess this is the emotional response column... how do you compare a winger with a midfield player ? is it who has the most goals, assists dribbles ?
unless you establish a criteria then its the oranges vs apples syndrome isn´t it ?
So when they meet ...what decides the better player again ?
Has anyone compared Ronaldo with quaresma ? These for me are the two best wingers in world football at the moment...lightening fast, score goals, fancy dribbles and a bit of style to go with all this ...does that mean that they are better footballers than Eissen for example ? he is less fancy, scores less goals, does less dribbles ????
So you see without a criteria its just you against me and that has as many verdicts as there are people with computers !



alright well if u can't compare them then pretend you are manager of a club team and you have no players yet and you are told you can either buy CR or Kaka as your first player to build your team around. who would you pick?

Your simplistic analysis reminds me of the schoolboy days when you lined up behind de man who picked you .....  you should remember that it was not always the first pick player´s team which ended up the winner.
I would hope if I was a club manager that i would be given the choice to at least be given the option to select what position i wanted to fill first rather than which player i first wanted on my team. Football is not 1 v 1 but a team game and that is why I said unless you establish a criteria you cant compare the importance of players to a team if they are both very good in their respective individual roles.

well sometimes isn't it fun to step back and take the most simplistic analysis? american sportcasters do it all the time and ask who they'll take first in a game of pickup whatever sport- i'm not saying the results of our analysis are anything useful or that we necessarily cast judgement on players because of it - i was just using the poll to merely get a sense of what forumites gut feeling was whether it be driven by emotion or not
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: lickslikefire on March 07, 2007, 10:27:44 PM
I not sure how anyone can answer this question...both players are in impeccable form, and it all comes down to personal preference....yuh could see the epl/man u players picking ronaldo, and the forumites who not biased towards the epl picking kaka or staying neutral...

ronaldo has been in blistering form this season, and IMO he's actually not selfish at all this season and is easily the best player in the premiership...if I was to choose a player based on this season alone I would go with ronaldo (and that hard coming from a diehard ac milan fan)...

but if yuh talking about just picking a player based on all past seasons, KAKA hands down.....
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Organic on March 07, 2007, 10:32:56 PM
as grande and other men said, kaka defends alot also..ronaldo much less. dat for me is very importnat.
is not like he is larsson who the want up here he is a winger.
what makes me dislike players alot is diving, he does it way to much.
when u ahve all dat skill why dive. also every lil flecking touch he get he does set up eh face liek he wanan cry wah de mc. is nto a bedroom sport
steups
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Grande on March 07, 2007, 11:09:56 PM
I giving Kaka the edge because he has consistently been the better player up until WC 2006. Since then, CR has taken center stage.
C Ronaldo is in better form. I always liked him even when he was getting stick for diving, but lately, his play has been superior to just about every baller on the planet, including Kaka. But the same could be said of Kaka up until the WC when he was probably the best player at Milan and on the Brazil squad. Kaka started the WC well and scored a sweet goal against Croatia. But he also got injured in that game and played on despite his injury and faded badly in the tournament. So many of the Brazilians have been slow to recover from the disappointment of WC 2006. But Kaka is showing signs and is almost back to his best for Milan. This Is C. Ronaldo break out year as far as the EPL is concerned. His performances for Portugal have been eye-catching since Euro 2004. I real like both players but the kind of goals Kaka scores and some of his attacking play in the most notorioulsy defensive league is amazing. His goal against Argentina in the friendly at the Emirates. You have to admit...not too many players could do that. OR the pass to Crespo in the CL final that Liverpool won. Unreal. It is just a matter of personal preference I guess. Both are pure class though.

some nice memories there

Kaka's pass to Crespo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNM2IKVy0gs

Kaka stretching Messi liver to put Brazil 3-0 up vs Argentina:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL6g_BRM7wg

Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Daft Trini on March 07, 2007, 11:15:13 PM
Even though I is ah Man U fan, Kaka is special boy, he does defend, pass accurate, dribble, score goals, mow de field, paint de lines, put up de net, fill de lucozade bottles etc, etc, etc..

Even though this is about 2 players who does play in 2 different positions. I like de Brazilian fuh meh team!
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Blue on March 08, 2007, 01:57:34 AM
For all those who mark Ronaldo as a diver - study how many times he gets genuinely hacked down every game. And how many players does just pelt kicks in his direction in frustration. I am amazed he hasn't been badly injured yet.

In many situations, the only way for him to maintain possession is a) dive and win a foul, or b) keep running, get hacked and win a foul. Personally, I cant blame him for leaping over all dem kicks and stamps.

And since when have we developed this English attitude that dribbling is a problem? As well as being an extremely effective player, the man is an entertainer - the more spanner he share out, the better  ;D
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 08, 2007, 02:27:24 AM
For all those who mark Ronaldo as a diver - study how many times he gets genuinely hacked down every game. And how many players does just pelt kicks in his direction in frustration. I am amazed he hasn't been badly injured yet.

In many situations, the only way for him to maintain possession is a) dive and win a foul, or b) keep running, get hacked and win a foul. Personally, I cant blame him for leaping over all dem kicks and stamps.

And since when have we developed this English attitude that dribbling is a problem? As well as being an extremely effective player, the man is an entertainer - the more spanner he share out, the better  ;D


    ...........You must be a relative of his.  EVERYBODY in the EPL gets kicked down, that's the nature of the league.  But players like ronaldo, robben and (as much as I hate to admit this) Drogba, go above and beyond the call of duty when it comes to flinging their bodies on the ground.  I would argue with you that Drogba is a player that genuinely gets hacked alot but he can make a meal of it sometimes, but ronaldo is just a plain out and out cheater with his bullshit, and as maybe one or two posters have quite rightly pointed out: he is waaaaaaay too good a player for that type of nonsense to be even necessary and it's bad for the game.  And for all the "goals" that ronaldo have scored this season, how many are penalties that he dove for and converted himself?  Let's start with the Middlesbrough game, if not further back........
    If more referees had the guts to do what is right, like the one in the CL game yesterday, we would then see these players in their best light and be better able to assess who is truly better for one team or another.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Fyzoman on March 08, 2007, 02:55:34 AM
kaka is obviously the classier more team-oriented player, and could real run at men, but right now in football it eh have no player does get me as excited as CR when he running at men.....yeah he does over dribble and sometimes doesn't pass, and dive, but lord, RIGHT NOW TO ME it eh have nobody more exciting RUNNING at men with ah ball at dey feet....oh and yuh know who too (to a lesser extent), Aaron Lennon, ah know he eh in dem fellahs class?, but he does excite me too, Ronaldhiino use too but ah fine man does be wetting him regularly
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Jah Gol on March 08, 2007, 05:03:34 AM
CR is a  little too duncy head for me.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: lickslikefire on March 08, 2007, 05:59:12 AM
as grande and other men said, kaka defends alot also..ronaldo much less. dat for me is very importnat.
is not like he is larsson who the want up here he is a winger.
what makes me dislike players alot is diving, he does it way to much.
when u ahve all dat skill why dive. also every lil flecking touch he get he does set up eh face liek he wanan cry wah de mc. is nto a bedroom sport steups

you must hate ronaldinho too then....dat man is cry at every lil touch
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Organic on March 08, 2007, 07:38:17 AM
as grande and other men said, kaka defends alot also..ronaldo much less. dat for me is very importnat.
is not like he is larsson who the want up here he is a winger.
what makes me dislike players alot is diving, he does it way to much.
when u ahve all dat skill why dive. also every lil flecking touch he get he does set up eh face liek he wanan cry wah de mc. is nto a bedroom sport steups

you must hate ronaldinho too then....dat man is cry at every lil touch
how i go hate rat boy  ;D
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: TRUwarrior on March 08, 2007, 08:19:11 AM
CR is a  little too duncy head for me.

duncy = having the ability tuh have defenders back peddlin and pelting wild kick for fear of gettin pass
            settin up countless goals
            being the second leadin scorer in d epl behind a pure striker
and men here does talk bout divin...dat is part of the modern game...deal widd it

CR for fifa player of the year
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Filho on March 08, 2007, 08:24:40 AM
some nice memories there

Kaka's pass to Crespo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNM2IKVy0gs

Kaka stretching Messi liver to put Brazil 3-0 up vs Argentina:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL6g_BRM7wg



magic....that turn and pass to Crespo. As someone mentioned..both players have different gifts but I will take a player with that kind of vision and poise any day. And the goal against Argentina....hmm.. nuff said. But big up to C. ronaldo as well. He have a few highlight reels that will leave your jaw on the ground. It would be fun to pick a World Under 25 side...it would probably mash up any other world 11.

C Ronaldo, Kaka, Petr Cech, Robben, Robinho, Rooney...the list goes on....sometimes I cannot believe the kind of players who are 24 years old or younger who lighting it up.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: lickslikefire on March 08, 2007, 08:25:54 AM
as soon as yuh say dat

and men here does talk bout divin...dat is part of the modern game...deal widd it


yuh loss all credibility......

diving is part of de modern game  ???....you mad or what.....
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: TRUwarrior on March 08, 2007, 08:35:47 AM
as soon as yuh say dat

and men here does talk bout divin...dat is part of the modern game...deal widd it


yuh loss all credibility......

diving is part of de modern game  ???....you mad or what.....

most of your favourite players are guilty of it.....men know how tuh create the contact and they know how tuh react after they get touch..............flop......that is how it is ;D
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 08, 2007, 09:07:32 AM
as soon as yuh say dat

and men here does talk bout divin...dat is part of the modern game...deal widd it


yuh loss all credibility......

diving is part of de modern game  ???....you mad or what.....

  Sadly, the reason it seems that diving has become part of the modern game is only because the governing bodies and the referees are not doing the slightest thing to curb it.  If more referees would punish players for "simulation" we would have less of it in the game.  Plain and simple.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: trinidad badboy on March 08, 2007, 09:35:15 AM


will have to say kaka is the better all rounded player. on an off the pitch to
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Marcos on March 08, 2007, 09:47:54 AM
Both players are very good at what they do, they both work hard, have good individual skill and technique and they both benefit from a bit of the "great white hype" attention.....(especially Kaka).....so at the end of the day it's really six of one, half a dozen of the other....

In different situations and different parts of the field, they would each have their moment to shine.....

way to take a stand kicker

Anyway, RIGHT NOW,
nobody touchin CR. If you don't like the way he plays right now you just biased against Man U.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Ngozi on March 08, 2007, 09:51:10 AM
I love Man u Christiano have skills but he's not the smartest player and a ball ho Kaka anyday that is a midfielder with vision and class
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Jah Gol on March 08, 2007, 11:02:47 AM
CR is a  little too duncy head for me.

duncy = having the ability tuh have defenders back peddlin and pelting wild kick for fear of gettin pass
            settin up countless goals
            being the second leadin scorer in d epl behind a pure striker
and men here does talk bout divin...dat is part of the modern game...deal widd it

CR for fifa player of the year
I never said that the man wasn't very talented. What I meant is that with all that talent he still makes bad decisions. He is young player and will probably improve further.I think Kaka is more intelligent than him.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: kicker on March 08, 2007, 11:05:18 AM


will have to say kaka is the better all rounded player. on an off the pitch to

You know those guys off the pitch ?
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Marcos on March 08, 2007, 12:41:05 PM
some nice memories there

Kaka's pass to Crespo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNM2IKVy0gs

Kaka stretching Messi liver to put Brazil 3-0 up vs Argentina:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL6g_BRM7wg



magic....that turn and pass to Crespo. As someone mentioned..both players have different gifts but I will take a player with that kind of vision and poise any day. And the goal against Argentina....hmm.. nuff said. But big up to C. ronaldo as well. He have a few highlight reels that will leave your jaw on the ground. It would be fun to pick a World Under 25 side...it would probably mash up any other world 11.

C Ronaldo, Kaka, Petr Cech, Robben, Robinho, Rooney...the list goes on....sometimes I cannot believe the kind of players who are 24 years old or younger who lighting it up.

I belive a BIG Problem for a lot of these young guys is that they start so young and play so much high level ball at a younger age that in addition to peaking earlier they also start fading earlier.

But dred I didn't realize that Cech is a youth.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Marcos on March 08, 2007, 12:41:36 PM


will have to say kaka is the better all rounded player. on an off the pitch to

You know those guys off the pitch ?

Sound like he pitch marbles with both a dem
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: sprog on March 08, 2007, 01:13:31 PM
I'll give it to Kaka right now but i see bigger and greater things in the future of Christiano Ronaldo, he just needs to be cautious if he makes a team move this summer cause it may wreck a promising career.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Observer on March 08, 2007, 04:23:39 PM
C. Ronaldo having a good season so this talk was bong to come up. But man forget Kaka doing the business for a few years now and has proven far more consistent (in one of the toughest leagues in football). At present Ronaldo shining, but Kaka is a far more balanced footballer, that can drop deep create, push forward score, defend and dictate an entire game.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Marcos on March 08, 2007, 04:28:15 PM
If you have a game tonight and had to choose between the two, who would you pick?
I think CR
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: sinned on March 08, 2007, 06:03:39 PM
If you have a game tonight and had to choose between the two, who would you pick?
I think CR
tonight, tomorrow night, Saturday night - any night I picking Kaka
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Observer on March 08, 2007, 07:31:32 PM
If you have a game tonight and had to choose between the two, who would you pick?
I think CR

Pardnah ah picking Kaka we. Outstanding in the CL this year, the best player in both games versus Celtic and top scorer of CL this season so far.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: davidephraim on March 09, 2007, 02:11:24 AM
EPL fans say Ronaldo....suprise suprise.

Kaka is a higher class of player than C. Ronaldo.

C. Ronaldo is not a very intelligent player in my opinion. He dribbles too much, until either he gets fouled, loses the ball, or has to pass it back. As soon as he get the ball is automatic dribbling...and teammates does be wide open waiting for him to pass the ball. A tendency to dive too. I will give him props for his assist today though, but otherwise he was being his usual self. He lucky he young so he can learn the game more.

Kaka is wiser. Kaka not only has footballing feet but footballing brains: creativity, imagination, finesse and always an eye for goal. Milan should center their game around him more.

Grande Boy, ah cya believe these fellas went with C. Ronaldo over Kaka. Granted Ronaldo has been impressive but everything you said about him I concur. In terms of his dribbling ability, I see that as being noteworthy when his opponents are english... other than that he does have to suck salt. In Champions league he does not look as impressive as in de EPL. Il take Kaka over Ronaldo any day but dont take my word for it because I will also take Rooney over Ronaldo anyday.... go figure...
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 09, 2007, 06:41:07 AM
EPL fans say Ronaldo....suprise suprise.

Kaka is a higher class of player than C. Ronaldo.

C. Ronaldo is not a very intelligent player in my opinion. He dribbles too much, until either he gets fouled, loses the ball, or has to pass it back. As soon as he get the ball is automatic dribbling...and teammates does be wide open waiting for him to pass the ball. A tendency to dive too. I will give him props for his assist today though, but otherwise he was being his usual self. He lucky he young so he can learn the game more.

Kaka is wiser. Kaka not only has footballing feet but footballing brains: creativity, imagination, finesse and always an eye for goal. Milan should center their game around him more.

Grande Boy, ah cya believe these fellas went with C. Ronaldo over Kaka. Granted Ronaldo has been impressive but everything you said about him I concur. In terms of his dribbling ability, I see that as being noteworthy when his opponents are english... other than that he does have to suck salt. In Champions league he does not look as impressive as in de EPL. Il take Kaka over Ronaldo any day but dont take my word for it because I will also take Rooney over Ronaldo anyday.... go figure...

  ......some people just prefer style over substance.  Cyah really knock dem fuh dat.  I had to watch that AC Milan-Celtic game TWICE yesterday, is how brilliant a game Kaka had.  The man makes some passes that are just sublime and head and shoulders above anything that c. ronaldo does at the club level.  He did have a masterful game when Portugal defeated Brazil the other day, but he doesn't do anything above and beyond the trick-pony show he puts on in the EPL (something Ronaldinho was labelled as doing some time ago):   the same step-over or two, a burst of speed (sometimes painting himself into a corner) a dive for a free kick/penalty , a goal.  There will always be a market for that in today's game, I guess, but the boy does have enough talent to take him on another level.  A different coach/team is needed to get him to thinking on that level.
Title: Re: C.Ronaldo or Kaka?
Post by: Papachunks on March 09, 2007, 05:49:31 PM
Here dis one....put CR in the italian league and dere he will learn what he needs to about intelligent passing and tactics.

Ironically, he will also go to the league that patented, and started diving. Dem italians love drama and show too much, but dat is where he will get a more intelligent game at this point.
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