Now maybe I just under conspiracy thing, maybe I watching too much tv, or maybe the common sense kicking in. Thus the beauty of the forum and reviewing old posts came into helping me make this conclusion.
I was lil idle over the past few days and I was thinking to myself....Why would we deliberately pick a weak team, and why would our own PFL team screw us over?
Then developments take place....Why if we agree with Jabloteh for players why we only get 2. Why no Cyd, or Wolfe or WHitley?...why we cyar get all 8? ............and the threat that the players could be banned from club action if they ent show up for training.
Forumites the TTFF win. The plan they hatched since Nov 18th with the players impasse has finally bore fruit. This is our new national team and we have to accept it as such and wish them fellas the best because dais it for the Germany squad.
Alyuh remember this post TTFF threaten to go local for 2010 (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=22779.0)
Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) general secretary Richard Groden yesterday declared his intention to eradicate the "anxieties" and "distractions" facing his organisation on the road to the 2010 South Africa World Cup, referring to their own players.
In a press release entitled "Update on Soca Warriors conflict", the T&TFF revealed they are considering asking players from the Trinidad and Tobago Pro League, as well as the Under-20 and Under-17 squads, to shoulder the responsibility of the 2010 World Cup campaign.
"We are actively contemplating a swifter than originally envisaged consideration of incorporating the rising brood of players," stated Groden's release, "from our Professional League, under-20 and even under-17 squads to form the nucleus of our team for 2010."
Groden, via a release, explained that the T&TFF were "contemplating" this "consideration" as a result of the players' "vacillation" over 2006 World Cup bonuses.
Now if you remember this post Update on Soca Warriors Conflict (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=22778.0)
These are the names of the fellas who strike:
6. Essentially, the 13 players involved publicly accused the TTFF of reneging on a contractual obligation made during the 2006 World Cup build-up. Captain Dwight Yorke read a prepared statement, which said (inter-alia): "We, the players of the National Team that participated in the World Cup 2006, would like to announce our consideration to retire from international football immediately after our next two games."
7. Appearing in demonstration of solidarity with the position articulated by Captain Yorke were: Dennis Lawrence, David Atiba Charles, Avery John, Chris Birchall, Carlos Edwards, Colin Samuel, Stern John, Kenwyne Jones, Jason Scotland, Brent Sancho and Cornell Glen.
So the locals, Whitley, Cyd, Theobold and Wolfe. Hush they mouth eat they biscuit and didnt stand in solidarity with the others cause they needed the TTFF to continue their careers.
Of those in training the non Jabloteh man make it. They use Fenwick as the cover to say they cyar play but really Cyd too old and not in the plans for 2010. Cyd done went on trials after WC and ent get tru with nuttin, dais it for he. Wolfe is Beenie boy and Beenie not here so he ent gettin pick and Whitley didn't go no training even doe he was invited.
Thus Theobold make it cause the ttff wanna give him cap so that he could fly out and give somebody a piece of money. If they wanted to write off theobold they could do so, but they using him to say they have experience in the side.
Also Daniel and Baptiste strengthenin the squad but they are the two hopefuls to next get contact abroad as they prove they could handle it so they there for caps...and Fenwick just waiting to collect a piece of money for them.
Watch meh this sounding like a good TV show eh, but watch it good. It making complete sense.
Oliver Camps, the president of the T&TFF, insisted that he knew of no such "blacklist" and suggested Rijsbergen had omitted the likes of Kenwyne Jones, Brent Sancho and Samuel on his own accord.
actually, this is real sad news for T&T football...cuz we cyah go nowhere without we best players. Even if them fellas work out they differences, them players ent go have no respect for wim..and yuh can't go nowhere with that situation either. The only way we going to make next world cup now, is if we hire a new coach who not affiliated with any of this BS. Jack double cross wim to take the fall for him man.poor wim since d man get he job them men giving he a raw deal. Now we await for wims response seeing that it suppose to be the coach to pick d team. the truth will come out soon :'(
Rijsbergen, a former Holland World Cup player, declined the opportunity to confirm or deny the existence of a blacklist.This says it all right here.
"That is something between the Federation and me," said the Dutchman. "I cannot give you an answer on that."
time to move people
if yuh really love tnt football.....the time is now
I know a lot ah man here go cuss me out but, I must say:-
QuoteI know a lot ah man here go cuss me out but, I must say:-
you sum it up right there horse....to put it mildly this post shows a complete lack of understanding of what really going on in T&T football. Ask coops and some of the older heads how long Jack and dem using blacklist to keep control and keep tiefin money while we players who sweat and eat they heart out for T&T treated like slaves.
I know a lot ah man here go cuss me out but, I must say:-I dunno if I misunderstand what u sayin eh bro, but from what I see the players say that they are available for selection. If u saying they should play regardless of the situation, I don't think that is the issue they dealing with. Once this lawsuit is pending TTFF plan is to fustrate dem by not picking dem cause as Stern said he is available. :beermug: :beermug:
As a player don't you have a responsibility to your country and your fans. ???
I know we cannot allow the administration to keep doing what they doing but, come one too, when you go abroad you also take on that responsibility of being called up for your country. Is either yes or know, depending on your heart.
I know that they owe dem money and thing, and is real f*ck up that Jackula is de one who reap all de benefits especially with the Timpaul scheme, but I remember George Weah playing for Liberia when de federation could not afford to field a team, he was one who was putting up de money.
Just a question!
Rijsbergen, a former Holland World Cup player, declined the opportunity to confirm or deny the existence of a blacklist.
"That is something between the Federation and me," said the Dutchman. "I cannot give you an answer on that."
Wim is a Puppet >:(
Look how well de overseas Warriors doing...rippin up Scotland & the Championship, likely to get promoted to the EPL, impressing in de Eriedivisie, standing out in the MLS..
and this. T&T football can't be where it can be because some real fools calling the shots. We best footballers can't even play for the sake of some happiness in T&T and Trinis abroad even.
people the time is now in truth.
If i was a gambling man i would bet a small fortune that youssss guysss would talk your self to sleep until the ttff piss youssss off again then yousss will awaken and fume and fuss and name call a little more bout jackula scamps rodent this that and the other, blah blah blah blah blah then more talk again and noooooo action will be taken what so ever. as long as it have fete carib and buss up shot in tribago jackulaa scamps and rodent alright,dey doh hah nutun tuh worry bout atall, cause noooo action will be taken just pure lyrics, it's a trini trade mark.Ahh daiz the whole point of a internet forum ???
Rijsbergen, a former Holland World Cup player, declined the opportunity to confirm or deny the existence of a blacklist.So Very True
"That is something between the Federation and me," said the Dutchman. "I cannot give you an answer on that."
Wim is a Puppet >:(
How you always jumping down my throat so man , you ain't have nothing better to do. wah hapen bredder you know me.If i was a gambling man i would bet a small fortune that youssss guysss would talk your self to sleep until the ttff piss youssss off again then yousss will awaken and fume and fuss and name call a little more bout jackula scamps rodent this that and the other, blah blah blah blah blah then more talk again and noooooo action will be taken what so ever. as long as it have fete carib and buss up shot in tribago jackulaa scamps and rodent alright,dey doh hah nutun tuh worry bout atall, cause noooo action will be taken just pure lyrics, it's a trini trade mark.Ahh daiz the whole point of a internet forum ???
QuoteRijsbergen, a former Holland World Cup player, declined the opportunity to confirm or deny the existence of a blacklist.This says it all right here.
"That is something between the Federation and me," said the Dutchman. "I cannot give you an answer on that."
I love how Lasana writes, however, this article making the players look desperate to get back on the team. Jack Warner must be laughing all now. Dont give Jack Warner anything to feed on, dont show him you weak or else he will devour you.Sam ah see where yuh coming from., but when I read it I thought the players were just trying to show how professional they are by saying "we know we taking legal action against de TTFF, but we still are available and we seperating the 2 things"......den Jackula/TTFF and Wim look like total arse holes.....esp Wim....
Come on Stern and Kelvin, allyuh make up allyuh mind, you may NEVER play for T&T again once Jack Warner there. Its to late to quit, so keep going strong and dont look back with what you guys are doing.
Allyuh get this PFA off de ground, many will always remember you for this. This have more value right now as it will benefit the younger ones, the TTFF will bring you down.
Together, we all can bring Jack Warner down to de lowest point of his life, but we must pull together and stick together.
Them players who dont want to stand up with you guys like Dwight, Lawrence, Edwards, Latapy, Scotland etc etc. is PUNKS !!!!! not for the money promised, but atleast to help get this PFA off the ground.
:banginghead: :banginghead:
i so fed up
I doh tink Wim in on it. I tink dat was Wim roundabout way of confirming dat it have a list and exposing de federation. If he was in on it, he woulda be in on de lie too and just say 'no' like de rest of them.QuoteRijsbergen, a former Holland World Cup player, declined the opportunity to confirm or deny the existence of a blacklist.This says it all right here.
"That is something between the Federation and me," said the Dutchman. "I cannot give you an answer on that."
Beenie lose real stripes wid me..... :flamethrower: fuh he too....he make it sound like he in on de whole thing too....."between de Federation and me"....WTF he mean by dat.....look more :flamethrower: fuh he...
Right now, I could think of a few plausible scenarios where it would be foolish for Wim to go to the press with a blacklist expose. Perhaps he is working it out with the TTFF (which is why he said it is between him and TTFF) and things may be at sensitive stage. Talking to the press would be like shooting himself in the foot. He also knows that if the press backs the TTFF in a corner..things would probably only get worse. Wim needs the foreign-based more than anyone here...I could understand why he might be trying to use diplomacy and tact in the face of the serpent
Brownsugar, did he mention why the TTFF has to treat players the way they do?
oi...it simple yuh know...lets just blacklist the fans now....simpleno mro ehunger strike? or protest?
If i was a gambling man i would bet a small fortune that youssss guysss would talk your self to sleep until the ttff piss youssss off again then yousss will awaken and fume and fuss and name call a little more bout jackula scamps rodent this that and the other, blah blah blah blah blah then more talk again and noooooo action will be taken what so ever. as long as it have fete carib and buss up shot in tribago jackulaa scamps and rodent alright,dey doh hah nutun tuh worry bout atall, cause noooo action will be taken just pure lyrics, it's a trini trade mark.
If i was a gambling man i would bet a small fortune that youssss guysss would talk your self to sleep until the ttff piss youssss off again then yousss will awaken and fume and fuss and name call a little more bout jackula scamps rodent this that and the other, blah blah blah blah blah then more talk again and noooooo action will be taken what so ever. as long as it have fete carib and buss up shot in tribago jackulaa scamps and rodent alright,dey doh hah nutun tuh worry bout atall, cause noooo action will be taken just pure lyrics, it's a trini trade mark.
Well said my brother,the day I see people in trinidad come out an protest in the thousands for anything,then and only then I would say we have guts and strength in numbers,but for now is only ah bunch ah sheep we have back home,with some abroad,following ah different sheepherder.
I on this board for over ah year now,and I see,hear, all kinda controvesy develop in our football,local and overseas and I eh see no protest list,or marches or even a representative for the people taking on the thieves......
When is enough going to be enough that's the question?