Soca Warriors Online Discussion Forum
Sports => Football => Topic started by: Flex on June 08, 2007, 05:58:17 AM
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Greetings.
As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on the game vs United States (http://www.ussoccer.com/common/stContent.jsp_19-2007GoldCup.html) (09-Jun, 5pm TT time) in Home Depot Center will be posted here, this way, we can help maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.
Possible Live Internet Links.
Warrior Nation Gold Cup Coverage (http://www.thewarriornation.com/content/view/121/57/)
Warrior Nation Blog. (http://www.thewarriornation.com/component/option,com_jd-wp/Itemid,32/cat,5/)
TV Viewing.
Telefutura in Spanish (USA - 5:00PM Eastern)
FCS (USA - 5:00PM Eastern) - next day re-run (8:00AM Eastern)
Sportsmax (T&T - 5:00PM Eastern)
Crew Meet Up.
Final Roll Call for LA Gold Cup games (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=28284.msg319634#msg319634)
Live Chat. (http://guadeloupe.homedns.org/)
Head to head Gold Cup battle
P W L D F A
United States 2 2 0 0 5 3
Trinidad & Tobago 2 0 2 0 3 5
29.Jun.1991 USA - Trinidad & Tobago 2:1 (0:0) Pasadena, California USA
12.Jan.1996 USA - Trinidad & Tobago 3:2 (2:2) Anaheim, California USA
More Updates To Follow.
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We might score a goal in this game but I doubt we will win!
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take a ticket
5-0 trini
five free kicks from spann
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take a ticket
5-0 trini
five free kicks from spann
5 - 1 actually.. USA will get a PITTY penalty..
Good ticket..
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stueps we going to get mash up rel bad, poor wim dey making him look like a rel fool boy :(
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2 - 1 for the yung uns
[size=05pt]oh, by the way Jackula...haul ya armen[/size]
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Yeah for real doh balme WIM at all TTFF go make him a scapegoat after we get knock out! Man Dwight an dem would have crushed this team by 3 goals or more.
Wim try he best to get the players he needed but JACK and CAMPS f$%$ we in we ass!
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Sad to say...but the US goin to kill dis side.....Ah mean we could have hope but seriously the effecient robotic way that the US plays will definitely give an undisciplined backline real pressha!!!
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we're due.....is about time we flikkin beat usa.
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we're due.....is about time we flikkin beat usa.
YEAH BUT NOT WITH THIS TEAM
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i doh know if i have the stomach to watch this game.
how this team
TRINIDAD & TOBAGO GK: Marvin Phillip (North East Stars), Daurance Williams (San Juan Jabloteh), Jan Michael Williams (W Connection FC);
DF: Dwayne Jack (San Juan Jabloteh), Thomas Nickcolson (W Connection FC), Anthony Noreiga (Joe Public FC), Trent Noel (San Juan Jabloteh), Seon Power (Joe Public FC), Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public FC), Glenton Wolffe (North East Stars);
MD: Romauld Aguillera (United Petrotrin), Christon Baptiste (Defence Force), Kerry Baptiste (Joe Public FC), Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin), Andrei Pacheco (W Connection FC), Silvio Spann (W Connection FC), Densill Theobald (Caledonia AIA);
AT: Gary Glasgow (Joe Public FC), Kendall Jagdeosingh (North East Stars), Errol McFarlane (Superstar Rangers), Darryl Roberts (Sparta Rotterdam/NED), Andre Toussaint (W Connection FC).
TD: Wilhelmus/GLENTON RIJSBERGEN
go NOT lose against this team?
USA GK: Brad Guzan (Chivas USA), Tim Howard (Everton FC/ENG), Kasey Keller (Borussia Moenchengladbach/GER);
DF: Carlos Bocanegra (Fulham FC/ENG), Jonathan Bornstein (Chivas USA), Jay DeMerit (Watford FC/ENG), Frankie Hejduk (Columbus Crew), Oguchi Onyewu (Standard de Liege/BEL), Michael Parkhurst (New England Revolution), Frank Simek (Sheffield Wednesday/ENG), Jonathan Spector (West Ham United/ENG);
MD: DaMarcus Beasley (Manchester City/ENG), Michael Bradley (SC Heerenveen/NED), Ricardo Clark (Houston Dynamo), Clint Dempsey (Fulham FC/ENG), Benny Feilhaber (Hamburg SV/GER), Justin Mapp (Chicago Fire), Pablo Mastroeni (Colorado Rapids), Steve Ralston (New England Revolution);
AT: Brian Ching (Houston Dynamo), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Ed Johnson (Kansas City Wizards), Taylor Twellman (New England Revolution).
TD: Bob BRADLEY
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i doh know if i have the stomach to watch this game.
how this team
TRINIDAD & TOBAGO GK: Marvin Phillip (North East Stars), Daurance Williams (San Juan Jabloteh), Jan Michael Williams (W Connection FC);
DF: Dwayne Jack (San Juan Jabloteh), Thomas Nickcolson (W Connection FC), Anthony Noreiga (Joe Public FC), Trent Noel (San Juan Jabloteh), Seon Power (Joe Public FC), Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public FC), Glenton Wolffe (North East Stars);
MD: Romauld Aguillera (United Petrotrin), Christon Baptiste (Defence Force), Kerry Baptiste (Joe Public FC), Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin), Andrei Pacheco (W Connection FC), Silvio Spann (W Connection FC), Densill Theobald (Caledonia AIA);
AT: Gary Glasgow (Joe Public FC), Kendall Jagdeosingh (North East Stars), Errol McFarlane (Superstar Rangers), Darryl Roberts (Sparta Rotterdam/NED), Andre Toussaint (W Connection FC).
TD: Wilhelmus/GLENTON RIJSBERGEN
go NOT lose against this team?
USA GK: Brad Guzan (Chivas USA), Tim Howard (Everton FC/ENG), Kasey Keller (Borussia Moenchengladbach/GER);
DF: Carlos Bocanegra (Fulham FC/ENG), Jonathan Bornstein (Chivas USA), Jay DeMerit (Watford FC/ENG), Frankie Hejduk (Columbus Crew), Oguchi Onyewu (Standard de Liege/BEL), Michael Parkhurst (New England Revolution), Frank Simek (Sheffield Wednesday/ENG), Jonathan Spector (West Ham United/ENG);
MD: DaMarcus Beasley (Manchester City/ENG), Michael Bradley (SC Heerenveen/NED), Ricardo Clark (Houston Dynamo), Clint Dempsey (Fulham FC/ENG), Benny Feilhaber (Hamburg SV/GER), Justin Mapp (Chicago Fire), Pablo Mastroeni (Colorado Rapids), Steve Ralston (New England Revolution);
AT: Brian Ching (Houston Dynamo), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Ed Johnson (Kansas City Wizards), Taylor Twellman (New England Revolution).
TD: Bob BRADLEY
YEah ah think we go be for ah a** kickin tomorrow night
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Anyone what to hook up to watch de game tomorrow? In de GTA?
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Our side good for 2-3 goals from the US, EARLY. If Sean Powers start in LB, Landon Donovan will skin him alive.
I hope Wim adopts a highly defensive fomation and reinforces the need to concentrate cause the US looking to score plenty early so they can afford to not run for the 90 mins. The longer our team forces out a 0-0 situation, the better it will be to get under the US skin and force them to briefly lose their focus. THat said, our big side has not done that so if these young players can pull it off, will be something of a mini-miracle.
Personally, I not looking for this side to make it past the group stage. I more interested in seeing who steps up and shows consistency.
Just my 0.5cent
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I will have to cover my eyes for this one. USA might have its first 7-0 victory in a long time. Ah hope Jack Warner watching the product he putting out there. what a shame
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3-0 win for the usa..i supporting tnt as usual but yuh cant put a cockroach in ah horse race and expect to win.
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reality reality meh mudder c#nt reality....is a good ting i is ah dreamer.....
and if so..wham....we fraid to lose o what??...let de boys learn man....come on tnt
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reality reality meh mudder c#nt reality....is a good ting i is ah dreamer.....
and if so..wham....we fraid to lose o what??...let de boys learn man....come on tnt
Yu know big Mags, I was thinking de same thing......Is it dat ah vex dey lose or because of my own selfish reasons? It good for dem but I wish dey win......As a fan it does hurt me heart to watch de team they way dey are, but is not dem fault nor Wims...Is fu*kin Jackula and Camps fault....Now yu gone and make me vex again >:( >:( >:( >:( :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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When you have to take talk from jamaicans- Hondurans and everyone in Concacaf. Jealous because we made the world cup. it is hard to stomach especially when El salvador was beatable. this game was three points for the taking.
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Yeah, the El Salvador game...that was the one to get the three points, its a shame they couldn't hold that one goal lead.
USA will be tough but...hang in there with some hope.
Ive been watching soccer for thirty years and seen some crazy stuff...Ive seen teams dominate the entire match but cant seem to score in spite of a host of shots...then the other team counters and gets a lucky goal and wins 1-0.
Anything can happen and many times the best team doesn't win. Thats the nature of the game.
I will be there tomorrow at the Home Depot Center but I'm pissed that dint allow tailgating...I live in the LA area but I wont be going to many games at the HD Center, they take all the fun out of it with their chickenshite restrictive policies. No wonder the stadium is only half full or less for all the Galaxy and Chivas games.
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USA 8 T&T 2
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USA 8 T&T 2
That score looking just about right. Maybe if you take out the two you think TNT will score then I think you have it dey. I supporting the warriors eh but the fact is that this team plays with no urgency and the US will come at them real hard especially after watching that game with El Salvador. Them men wasn't thinking quick on the ball and it eh have nobody showing any creativity in midfield so is blows in we pweeffem
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USA 8 T&T 2
lol hell nah but i figure US 3 TT 0 this team doh have heart....rather than use the odds against them to stand up like men they using them as excuse to lie down I cyar respect a team that giving meh less than 100 percent I not seeing itif jamaica was leading theyd battle like dogs to hold dem we does give in too easy thas wy i cyah pull no punches on this team two men stand up watching in the box while this man setting up for a point blank shot on your goalie....madness...why yuh think thye love the soca warriors ....heart...heart this team jus wanna play they three games and go home.....no nuts
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i goin bold face dis rounds
T&T 1 USA 1
and we beating guatemala too
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Mark my word, this side getting six solid goals.
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take a ticket
5-0 trini
five free kicks from spann
like yuh crawl out from under de rock (Uncle SAM)...welcome back :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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it will be be tt pfl vs mls. this game is a good opportunity to look at the standards between the two leagues.
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reality reality meh mudder c#nt reality....is a good ting i is ah dreamer.....
and if so..wham....we fraid to lose o what??...let de boys learn man....come on tnt
Big M I dreaming like you for this game, ah trying to think a little positive but when ah read alyuh comments it making meh think twice about even watching de game... ;D 8-2 noway!!!
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Dat is wha dem boy dey need right now....lots of it....
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My tax return from 2005 due too but I eh get it. So all thou we due to beat the US I will luv it to happen tmorrow but remember that glass I talked bout.
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US 3- Sweet T&T 0 . Love of country is one thing, but reality is the team is weak.
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dais allyuh business yes...if it's not tuh be well cool scene but reality go have to come in tuh play after we loss fuh me...ah going down dying if ah have to..right now we and de States have ah point each & if we cyar take de States own & get de bonus point..at least we have ah point tuh try & keep....but allyuh gettin orn like we done lose it aready...steupsssss!! All de best tuh dem fellaz!!!
GO WARRIORS!!!
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We need to play faster.
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O.K fellas today expect a big turn out of local trinis' in the area.
I am in the same section again today 110. Will any forum members be there ?
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1-0 for T&T Watch and see!!!! TNT We want a Goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah, vibes it up!!...Go warriors!!! I doh like what Oliver sCamps and Jackula gettin on with but I am giving full support any team representing Trinidad and Tobago. Rep T&T to the fullest...do allyuh best Warriors. GO OUT THERE POSITIVE, AGGRESSIVE AND HUNGRY. Be true WARRIORS, pelt blade, dribble way men and buss up dee net with goals. Give it allyuh absolute best, thats all we askin for.
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The first 20 minutes gonna be very critical today.. If we can survive without conceding i think we will gain some confidence from it.
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We will need to play the game of our lives and hope for some good luck as well to come out of this game on either side of a respectable score line....
GO T&T !!
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online streams for the game:
ppstream link :
ppstream://125.93.52.5:44000/K3332FBZBQKDZYSQXL7VJRUEWOCGHHYB
sopcast link :
sop://sop.rojadirecta.com:3912/6543
ppmate link :
ppmates://playpps/id=PCASP477
they will not be in english .. but at least you will see the game . .. (sopcast link works best for me).
just copy them and paste them up in the addrss bar in your internet browser to open them ..
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O.K fellas today expect a big turn out of local trinis' in the area.
I am in the same section again today 110. Will any forum members be there ?
yeah people, expect much larger representation today
Picked up Tallman last night and hit Treehouse, place was bumpin pretty good
All dem men said they was going today.....weather dey drop the $25 and go is another thing :devil:
Look for a rhythm section today behind the south goal (to the right of the player bench)
The Warrior nation will be in 103, aye boy if you was there last match how come you ent drop by??
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Soca Warriors need to win this game. Its about respect. Its time to do it. Now is that time. The problem is not in attack but the back four and the goalkeeper. Williams makes too many mistakes and we all know that great keepers are the ones that instill confidence in the defenders. Shaka did it Germany.
Williams has to have an excellent game and lkead from the back. I dunno why the other W Connection keeper wasn't selected for this tournament. He played well in the Champions Cup tie against Chivas.
Also why wasn't any U-17 players like Stephen Knox selected for this tournament. I read somewhere that Yorke got into the WC team at 16 yrs old. This would've been good for the a few young warriors.
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reality reality meh mudder c#nt reality....is a good ting i is ah dreamer.....
and if so..wham....we fraid to lose o what??...let de boys learn man....come on tnt
a famous quote by Aristotle " we cannot learn without pain" so i guess this is the phase we have to go through. :devil: :devil: :beermug:
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O.K fellas today expect a big turn out of local trinis' in the area.
I am in the same section again today 110. Will any forum members be there ?
yeah people, expect much larger representation today
Picked up Tallman last night and hit Treehouse, place was bumpin pretty good
All dem men said they was going today.....weather dey drop the $25 and go is another thing :devil:
Look for a rhythm section today behind the south goal (to the right of the player bench)
The Warrior nation will be in 103, aye boy if you was there last match how come you ent drop by??
to answer your "q" I was with meh brother and he posse in section 130 at the last game . Could not make it to the treehouse last night i had to work this morning but, i'm leaving early though @11:00am
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reality reality meh mudder c#nt reality....is a good ting i is ah dreamer.....
and if so..wham....we fraid to lose o what??...let de boys learn man....come on tnt
a famous quote by Aristotle " we cannot learn without pain" so i guess this is the phase we have to go through. :devil: :devil: :beermug:
boy that is a phase lasting over 30 years now
Good luck in the game today to Wim and the Warriors. T&T all the way from the start to the final whistle...I do feel they will pull off a decent result.
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reality reality meh mudder c#nt reality....is a good ting i is ah dreamer.....
and if so..wham....we fraid to lose o what??...let de boys learn man....come on tnt
a famous quote by Aristotle " we cannot learn without pain" so i guess this is the phase we have to go through. :devil: :devil: :beermug:
boy that is a phase lasting over 30 years now
Good luck in the game today to Wim and the Warriors. T&T all the way from the start to the final whistle...I do feel they will pull off a decent result.
well i guess once we learning their will always be pain :rotfl: :rotfl: but the sad thing about it i wonda if the TTFF is feeling any or if they have any feelings at all..... :'( :'( :'(
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This morning on FSC they were talking about how the pay dispute with the international players of T&T has cause the nation to lose out on the hype, confidence and support coming off the WC. They said they received many emails from unhappy supporters about the situation. They also thought that it was a big blow to football in T&T.
However, they did say that the U.S will be in a predicament because they don't know who the players are that are representing T&T, which can be a plus for us.
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Elan, did they give an accurate account of the situation or are they still torn between a strike and a Jacklist?
because the Jacklist is the more accurate cause of the problem.
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They did not mention the blacklist, but listening to the show it gives the idea that the federation was the one holding out on the players. The guy who was talking about spoke in frustration ( at least I think so). Which shows that other people who are true football supporters are taking notice.
If those attending the game tonight bring out the protest banners I think they will get noticed.
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Thanks Elan
The FPATT have to send out a press release
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online streams for the game:
ppstream link :
ppstream://125.93.52.5:44000/K3332FBZBQKDZYSQXL7VJRUEWOCGHHYB (http://ppstream://125.93.52.5:44000/K3332FBZBQKDZYSQXL7VJRUEWOCGHHYB)
sopcast link :
sop://sop.rojadirecta.com:3912/6543 (http://sop://sop.rojadirecta.com:3912/6543)
ppmate link :
ppmates://playpps/id=PCASP477 (http://ppmates://playpps/id=PCASP477)
Will these links work later on? Because they not working now.
they will not be in english .. but at least you will see the game . .. (sopcast link works best for me).
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online streams for the game:
ppstream link :
ppstream://125.93.52.5:44000/K3332FBZBQKDZYSQXL7VJRUEWOCGHHYB (http://ppstream://125.93.52.5:44000/K3332FBZBQKDZYSQXL7VJRUEWOCGHHYB)
sopcast link :
sop://sop.rojadirecta.com:3912/6543 (http://sop://sop.rojadirecta.com:3912/6543)
ppmate link :
ppmates://playpps/id=PCASP477 (http://ppmates://playpps/id=PCASP477)
Will these links work later on? Because they not working now.
they will not be in english .. but at least you will see the game . .. (sopcast link works best for me).
i modified the post . . i dont know why the links didnt work . .but just copy the addresses and paste them in your internet browser . . they work now. ..
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heard de scene fellas ,i ent know bout this reality thing alyuh takin bout cuz tnt goin to draw with usa frist stop.
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any one plz help..the link isnt workin and i'm in canada for d weekend..its not showin on fox canada
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official score USA 5- TT 1 Glascow score..
Jackula hul yuh motha tin pan
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i will have to watch this game with one eye open :-X
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i have a joke fuh alyuh. Last night meh Padnah who is a Marine in Iraq come home(happy he back) check meh see meh watching teh Mexico game. so he ask meh if TT in it? ah say yeah, so not even two mins pass deh show highlights from the TT game and he ask meh but wait who is dem men on the field and what happen to Stern, Jones and ETC. ah tell him boy the only man that can answer that question fuh is JW. But ah tell him lewwe get some beers and i tell him the whole "story" until like 2 dis morning. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :beermug:
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I trying not to take God out meh thoughts but the pre-game ain't mention anything about the black listing. Our our team not furnishing the WC players or we went to the WC. Them fellas is real backside yes. God forgive meh. schueeeppss
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i have a joke fuh alyuh. Last night meh Padnah who is a Marine in Iraq come home(happy he back) check meh see meh watching teh Mexico game. so he ask meh if TT in it? ah say yeah, so not even two mins pass deh show highlights from the TT game and he ask meh but wait who is dem men on the field and what happen to Stern, Jones and ETC. ah tell him boy the only man that can answer that question fuh is JW. But ah tell him lewwe get some beers and i tell him the whole "story" until like 2 dis morning. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :beermug:
Is funny that you mention that...ah was talking to ah padnah of mine on de phone lastnight and he was asking me where Whitley, Stern Birchall and de rest of de players :rotfl: :rotfl: So ah give him de run down too...the thing is he wasn't in Iraq....He in freaking Trini and didn't have ah clue :o
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Game in start yet and ah getting ah headache!!!! ah not thinking reality here we go surprise them with ah 1-1 draw :beermug: :beermug:
Vibes It Up WARRIORS!!!!
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T&T Starting line up
21.Jan Michael Williams, 6. Nicholson Thomas, 20.Anthony Noreiga. 17.Seon Power, 5.Keyeno Thomas, 2.Romauld Aguillera, 15.Andrei Pacheco, 14.Darryl Roberts 16.Silvio Spann 18.Densill Theobald, 11.Andre Toussaint.
Subs – 1.Daurance Williams, 4.Dwayne Jack, 7.Trent Noel, 13, Christon Baptiste, 9.Errol McFarlane 8.Kerry Baptiste
US giving the youths a chance. Donavon, Dempsey and Beasley on the bench and Keller in the goal.
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GO TnT......
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Well kickoff is in 5 mins.
Suppose we win, draw, or lose very narrowly????
Will the TTFF be smiling ear to ear and no matter what happens again, they will feel justified and we might never see the Warriors again....
If we lose comprehensively, a drubbing of the sorts, then the pressure back on the TTFF. AND THEY WILL KNOW IT.
A full strength Soca Warriors will be very VERY competitive with this US team, we might not beat them, but will give them a very big worry.
So what do we want supporters??
Win today, feel good and celerate, but in the long run we might get shafted from the TTFF?
Lose today, take we loss like men (after all, its T&T, we used to losing and heartache), and the pressure is more on the TTFF...
My natural instinct is to support the boys today....or even if we have to lose, we go down fighting.
The game vs Guatemala shows that the US is not firing on all cylinders.
Boy i miss my warriors!
But I am very worried about our technical ability and fitness agasint the US machine.
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T&T Starting line up
21.Jan Michael Williams, 6. Nicholson Thomas, 20.Anthony Noreiga. 17.Seon Power, 5.Keyeno Thomas, 2.Romauld Aguillera, 15.Andrei Pacheco, 14.Darryl Roberts 16.Silvio Spann 18.Densill Theobald, 11.Andre Toussaint.
Subs – 1.Daurance Williams, 4.Dwayne Jack, 7.Trent Noel, 13, Christon Baptiste, 9.Errol McFarlane 8.Kerry Baptiste
Good luck... could have been a better side though
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Lord Seon Power starting ???
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T&T Starting line up
21.Jan Michael Williams, 6. Nicholson Thomas, 20.Anthony Noreiga. 17.Seon Power, 5.Keyeno Thomas, 2.Romauld Aguillera, 15.Andrei Pacheco, 14.Darryl Roberts 16.Silvio Spann 18.Densill Theobald, 11.Andre Toussaint.
Subs – 1.Daurance Williams, 4.Dwayne Jack, 7.Trent Noel, 13, Christon Baptiste, 9.Errol McFarlane 8.Kerry Baptiste
Good luck... could have been a better side though
Understatement of the year
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lol i meant a better selection of the players at hand lol
Anyway TV6 feed down >:(
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what station on sop cast plase
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No Glasgow even on de bench?
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No Glasgow even on de bench?
did he not come off hurt in the last game?
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No Glasgow even on de bench?
he injured
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yeah any online links...cause that link onlikecorn post not working
i also checked goltv on tvuplayer, and that not working either
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no matter what i say i cannot turn meh back on meh country. TNT we want ah goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Game start
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Match now start and dem boyz playin de a$$ ahready....mix up in defense...they lucky de US eh get the ball!!!
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HOLD DEM FELLAS!!!!!
DEFENCE
TnT WE WANT A GOAL
Jackula.........haul ya armen
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we just get away powers get beat oh gawd this go be a long 90 jan now make a save from he a$$
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US like they resting they bigg guns donavan, beasley,howard dempsy all on the bench
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folks who watching the game, give us an update.
thanks
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We look like we in for a rough afternoon....
We've been unable to keep the ball
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USA have speed to go behind the defence...TnT have to play smart and hard
we have not played in or beyond the centre 1/3 as yet :o
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US controlling the game...We eh make 3 consecutive passes yet!! GEEZZ!!!
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I ain't complaining, but Eddie Johnson wasn't offside. Linesman rescue we.
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Noriega injured in a clash. Madman Jack might be coming on.
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Noriega down...
Looks like he suffered a concussion....he headed Williams' shoulder and looked daze from the minute he hit the ground.
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williams break up Noriega game stop williams punch ah ball and puch him too
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I ain't complaining, but Eddie Johnson wasn't offside. Linesman rescue we.
TWICE....but who counting
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I ain't complaining, but Eddie Johnson wasn't offside. Linesman rescue we.
thank God for shitty linesmen ;D
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allyuh relax nah...wha allyuh go dead with every play...shim if allyuh had to be on the field now ..
the ref say offside,he fackin offside.
damn, wha happen to noreiga dey. he look out
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Oh lawd....somebody call the U-17 squad please!!! This team have mih scared bad!!! OH OH Noriega jus geh rough up from Ching...Noriega, Ching and Jan was rushin for the ball in the air and Noriega come out the worst....he still on the ground....Williams get injured too but he still lookin like he ok but Noriega not lookin too good.....game stop about 4 mins now!!
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Noriega injured in a clash. Madman Jack might be coming on.
nah if he coming in we go play short ;D
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Noriega down...
Looks like he suffered a concussion....he headed Williams' shoulder and looked daze from the minute he hit the ground.
On replay...his head hit the turf on the ground. Poor fella.
Paul Caligiuri seems to think concussion as well.
the backline needed the break to cut some of the US momentum
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i eh see a neck brace i hope is neck is ok
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sorry about the links. . they work . . its just that something is frigged up with the station . . guangdong sports was scheduled to show it .. and those are the links. . but right now. . guangdong is just showinga continuous loop of some old man and a big brass tea pot . .sorry . .
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Pow boy coming in. Christian Baptiste
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The Panamanian linesmen saving T&T so far. ;D
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Kerry Baptiste come on for Thomas
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good gawd...
dem fellas playing like they just born yesterday and trying tuh learn dis game...man getting all kinda ole beats and Trinidad like dey cyah play with ah ball at their feet.
Spector juss throw 'way...
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goal for US
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Goal USA...Ching scores
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we real playing some tata :-[
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This is disgusting to watch.
I switching over tuh de Mets game on Fox.
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We in an absolute mess
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Goal USA...Ching scores
28 mins....
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Who's dat man who stop runnin? Cheups.
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This is disgusting to watch.
I switching over tuh de Mets game on Fox.
i going and BBQ outside yes
Ah real hope we do better in the 2nd half
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Who's dat man who stop runnin? Cheups.
yuh mean the whole team?
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JACKULA HAUL YA ARMEN
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the tv ants link working fuh me
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ah have to admit, this ting kinda sad :'( :'( :'(
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this is just wrong, i haven't seen a worst display of football in a while
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powers have to put down he handbreaks that one could have been avoided if he had beaten the man to the ball >:( >:( >:(
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the tv ants link working fuh me
what's de link?
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Who's dat man who stop runnin? Cheups.
yuh mean the whole team?
A man was running with Mapp in a good position to make a tackle or take him off his path and... he see help coming from de right back and STOP runnin! Mapp breeze pass de right back cause he wasn't in position yet. Cross. Goal.
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http://www.myp2p.eu/Matches/Match4.htm
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this is just wrong, i haven't seen a worst display of football in a while
You obviously didnt watch on Thursday night
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maybe allyuh should tun off allyuh tv, or allyuh still likin the show
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warner better pray 4 me not to see himm >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(give de players they blasted money yuh stumeerr sticken dutty muthercont
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
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maybe allyuh should tun off allyuh tv, or allyuh still likin the show
why? because of the criticism?
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
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ah still supportin....GO T&T
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Powers cant even make a pass rasta fari
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
Strange eh... we could always still do worse. Check on your team.
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
Strange eh... we could always still do worse. Check on your team.
;D
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maybe allyuh should tun off allyuh tv, or allyuh still likin the show
why? because of the criticism?
yeah...how come is still only one
I see mny passes string together how come nobody right that...ah see williams saving like ah borse...not ah word
we get shot, we holding better
we even see now the goalie is Keller...not ah word
U S do something, is waste down for TT
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This is disgusting to watch.
I switching over tuh de Mets game on Fox.
i going and BBQ outside yes
Ah real hope we do better in the 2nd half
I cyah help...ah switch back. Hoping against hope.
Embarrassing really...since ah know Caligiuri and always hoping that we represent well.
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nice SHOT TNT we doing GOOD now
PRESSURE fellas
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
Oh you should be getting ready to watch JA vs.......ahhhh...I just rembered that you guys did not make it..
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
Strange eh... we could always still do worse. Check on your team.
Jamaica still does not have a team yet but our make-shift team that lost 1-nil to Chile would have beaten the El Salvador team. ;D
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what a freekick by spann :o :o :o :o had teh goalie going another way...... real real nice
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maybe allyuh should tun off allyuh tv, or allyuh still likin the show
why? because of the criticism?
yeah...how come is still only one
I see mny passes string together how come nobody right that...ah see williams saving like ah borse...not ah word
i think you'll hear more criticism than praise because at that point, we wasnt doing anything....anyhows....this team showing heart...lovely.
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
Oh you should be getting ready to watch JA vs.......ahhhh...I just rembered that you guys did not make it..
ba da bing ba da BOOM
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We're actually making a game of this in the dying minutes of the second half....
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
Strange eh... we could always still do worse. Check on your team.
Jamaica still does not have a team yet but our make-shift team that lost 1-nil to Chile would have beaten the El Salvador team. ;D
Show some class and stop trolling until the game is done.
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Jamaica still does not have a team yet but our make-shift team that lost 1-nil to Chile would have beaten the El Salvador team. ;D
one set of shoulda coulda woulda
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This is disgusting to watch.
I switching over tuh de Mets game on Fox.
i going and BBQ outside yes
Ah real hope we do better in the 2nd half
I cyah help...ah switch back. Hoping against hope.
Embarrassing really...since ah know Caligiuri and always hoping that we represent well.
nah nah...go back and watch yuh shyt team METS.....
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USA 1 - 0 T&T at the Half
T&T looks much better this match than against ES.
Apparently the USA is using only 1 player that was in the Guatemala match. Now that is depth.
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ACTUALLY DEM PLAYERS MAKING MEH EAT MEH WORDS.....I wonder how crow does taste with soy sauce?
T&T actually playing a decent game, we are too pedestrian at de back doh...and Spann is a borse with de dead ball. Dat corner against a lesser keeper was a goal....sweet corner kick, and what a try from outside again...had Keller going de wrong facking way.
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Finally!!!!!! A game. Silvio nearly kill Keller. He didn't have a prayer. Wicked shot.
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maybe allyuh should tun off allyuh tv, or allyuh still likin the show
Like I said...hoping against hope.
If yuh doh like de posts yuh reading yuh could always turn off yuh facking computer :peace:
In other news....
the team started playing a little better later on in the half...but is same ole khaki pants where TnT is concerned in our history against the USA....come out early, play shit...concede the lead...fight to save face.
Spann may have played his way into a foreign trial....beautiful swerving free kick from distance that would have stunned the world, just missed wide.
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Show some class and stop trolling until the game is done.
dais a major mistake to assume that he have Class
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nice fight to finish the half fellas - i had to explain to real people here in kentucky wud de mudda a$$ going wit de team and how it eh have no world cup players on de squad everybody here askin where shaka hislop, so im glad we made de waves we did in de world cup - and i hope we can continue with dese younger guys. keep on giving it all you have TnT..........lets go warriors!
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Terrible first 42 mins...
then..we started to play..
once we keep up the little pressure and tighten up the defence we should sneak a draw
Come on!!!!!!!!!!
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I have to say: Spann is a very powerful free kick taker ....he almost score again....
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
Oh you should be getting ready to watch JA vs.......ahhhh...I just rembered that you guys did not make it..
Guadeloupe has a point. See where I'm going with this. :rotfl:
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I have to say: Densil is a very powerful free kick taker ....he almost score again....
Densil?? ???
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USA 1 - 0 T&T at the Half
T&T looks much better this match than against ES.
disagree
We played SHIT for the first 42 mins
then we played good till the 51'(6 mins extra time)
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I have to say: Densil is a very powerful free kick taker ....he almost score again....
yuh mean Spann breds
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ACTUALLY DEM PLAYERS MAKING MEH EAT MEH WORDS.....I wonder how crow does taste with soy sauce?
Oh Gawd.......I ent kno atall, try some other sauces nuh ;D ;D I just kidding eh
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not so bad in attack, but the back line is very very slow and they are not reading the game well. Too much ball watchin. Lookin forward to a better second half. go warriors!!!!!
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nah nah...go back and watch yuh shyt team METS.....
ah rather watch yuh woman...but half de Mets look better.
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Terrible first 42 mins...
then..we started to play..
once we keep up the little pressure and tighten up the defence we should sneak a draw
Come on!!!!!!!!!!
yeah, they were really coming on there
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Allyuh feel US going with the big team 2nd half?
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The US did they homework...T&T free kick could be about 40 yds out but they still setting up wall when Spann kicking....
Oh and by the way ah now see why yuh switch back...Yuh METS getting dey arse kick 'een from Detroit ;D ;D
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i will say yes since bocanegra or whoever it was done start stretching to show bradley he want a lil sweat
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I have to say: Densil is a very powerful free kick taker ....he almost score again....
yuh mean Spann breds
Correction made.....the man not easy...
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The US did they homework...T&T free kick could be about 40 yds out but they still setting up wall when Spann kicking....
Oh and by the way ah now see why yuh switch back...Yuh METS getting dey arse kick 'een from Detroit ;D ;D
yeah...slow day in de sports world
but no scenes...still one of the best records in MLB.
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Show some class and stop trolling until the game is done.
dais a major mistake to assume that he have Class
How things have turned. Any of you Trinis recalled what you posted when Jamaica was being hammered 6-nil by England or more recently the U-17 qualifiers.
Look at the man in the mirror first before talking about class.
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
Oh you should be getting ready to watch JA vs.......ahhhh...I just rembered that you guys did not make it..
Guadeloupe has a point. See where I'm going with this. :rotfl:
I didn't know that you changed your citizenship....what a fair weather supporter...
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Show some class and stop trolling until the game is done.
dais a major mistake to assume that he have Class
How things have turned. Any of you Trinis recalled what you posted when Jamaica was being hammered 6-nil by England or more recently the U-17 qualifiers.
Look at the man in the mirror first before talking about class.
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Allyuh feel US going with the big team 2nd half?
wha Kinda bullerman thing is dat,watching baseball when T&T playing........
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I have to say: Densil is a very powerful free kick taker ....he almost score again....
yuh mean Spann breds
Correction made.....the man not easy...
Playing very well on set pieces...hope it translates into some kind of real opportunity for him. Darryl Roberts too I think is acquiting himself well. Defense and mid-field in a mess...but the forwards, like Caligiuri say...tracking back deeper to help out.
Better signs.
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We need to fake man a lil more in the middle. US wild wild. We need to compose we self go by one or to men and it go cause trouble. US can't play beauty ball but the will beat you if you try to knock with them. We need to take man on down the wings and pack the damn boxs. And tell them forward to stop this controling shyte in the box. ! touch towards goal MAN!!!!!
Blow the Whistle!!!!
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Well we start to make a game of it coming down to the end dere, b4 that it was hard to watch. We play so much SHITE for the majority of that half. And is it just me, or allyuh think Jackula pay off the linesman in T&T half? How wuch offside call he make that wasnt even close to offside? At least 3 or 4 blatant wrong calls. To me that seem kinda fishy. ::)
But say what, it keeping we in the game yes. Hope we keep some pressure on in the 2nd half
GO WARRIORS!!
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Winnipeg...are you serious...i guess you talking about after first goal...they had few chanced
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Show some class and stop trolling until the game is done.
dais a major mistake to assume that he have Class
How things have turned. Any of you Trinis recalled what you posted when Jamaica was being hammered 6-nil by England or more recently the U-17 qualifiers.
Look at the man in the mirror first before talking about class.
What ARE you on about
show me the link man ;)
get back in touch with me when you become a teenager
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Allyuh feel US going with the big team 2nd half?
wha Kinda bullerman thing is dat,watching baseball when T&T playing........
Why don't you tell us...seems you've been endowed with some kinda special abilities to spot "bullerman thing" in the most mundane adn trivial of situations.
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Wim Vs Beenie:
Wim look he lets the guys play more;we look a bit more attacking minded, without losing our shape. He could do wonders if he has all players at his disposal.
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Well we start to make a game of it coming down to the end dere, b4 that it was hard to watch. We play so much SHITE for the majority of that half. And is it just me, or allyuh think Jackula pay off the linesman in T&T half? How wuch offside call he make that wasnt even close to offside? At least 3 or 4 blatant wrong calls. To me that seem kinda fishy. ::)
But say what, it keeping we in the game yes. Hope we keep some pressure on in the 2nd half
GO WARRIORS!!
As soon as I see them bad calls i say JACK BOY!
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Allyuh feel US going with the big team 2nd half?
wha Kinda bullerman thing is dat,watching baseball when T&T playing........
i livin in de states almost 20 years now and i could still say baseball is de absolute gayest sport ever, even americans is make fun of how much shit baseball is, and trinidad playing to boot, i doh usually goh after people like dis but come on man......underdogs, jackula shittin up de whole federation, we have some inexperienced fellas out there who tryin there damn hardest and you talking about watching de mets play in a baseball game? wud de ass? ill let somebody else on de board post the pertinent punishment for such ignorance
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Show some class and stop trolling until the game is done.
dais a major mistake to assume that he have Class
How things have turned. Any of you Trinis recalled what you posted when Jamaica was being hammered 6-nil by England or more recently the U-17 qualifiers.
Look at the man in the mirror first before talking about class.
Breds...do yuh thing yes.... :rotfl:
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Allyuh feel US going with the big team 2nd half?
wha Kinda bullerman thing is dat,watching baseball when T&T playing........
Why don't you tell us...seems you've been endowed with some kinda special abilities to spot "bullerman thing" in the most mundane adn trivial of situations.
Yeah I feeel he mad..... ;D ;D
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I have to say: Densil is a very powerful free kick taker ....he almost score again....
yuh mean Spann breds
Correction made.....the man not easy...
Playing very well on set pieces...hope it translates into some kind of real opportunity for him. Darryl Roberts too I think is acquiting himself well. Defense and mid-field in a mess...but the forwards, like Caligiuri say...tracking back deeper to help out.
Better signs.
My problem with roberts is he displays poor control and awkard technique,but I like his hustle,toussaint remind meh ah stern john,he could complain boy! and sometimes he looks like ah girl on the field..........
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maybe allyuh should tun off allyuh tv, or allyuh still likin the show
Like I said...hoping against hope.
If yuh doh like de posts yuh reading yuh could always turn off yuh facking computer :peace:
In other news....
the team started playing a little better later on in the half...but is same ole khaki pants where TnT is concerned in our history against the USA....come out early, play shit...concede the lead...fight to save face.
Spann may have played his way into a foreign trial....beautiful swerving free kick from distance that would have stunned the world, just missed wide.
don't be foolish, you are a supporter and fan, if yuh don't want to see the team play badly, yuh for the wrong team
wha bout if ah doh like some ppl post, ah cyah turn orf the post...and right now ah cyah tun off the ppl either
oan
hope the confidence raise ah lil bit now, at least for the players and in each other
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Ball sah...well done Toussaint..What Wim feeding them men at half time?
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Allyuh feel US going with the big team 2nd half?
wha Kinda bullerman thing is dat,watching baseball when T&T playing........
Why don't you tell us...seems you've been endowed with some kinda special abilities to spot "bullerman thing" in the most mundane adn trivial of situations.
Yeah I feeel he mad..... ;D ;D
Lol...
Preach whey'z de scenes pardna? Long time...
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yuh in dig how Spann adjust the range on he boots dey ;D
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ok guys 4 luv of God and my sanity please not a repeat of the 2nd against ES. Dem yankees eh respect all yuh dey rest dey top guns. So please at least do lik ethe SQ in 89 score an equaliser and get we a pt
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any online streams for this game / audio or visual ?
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TnT We Want ah GOAL!!!
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don't be foolish, you are a supporter and fan, if yuh don't want to see the team play badly, yuh for the wrong team
wha bout if ah doh like some ppl post, ah cyah turn orf the post...and right now ah cyah tun off the ppl either
oan
hope the confidence raise ah lil bit now, at least for the players and in each other
Dude, watch me eh...and ah trying tuh be civil, but from de bottom of my heart haul yuh mudda c**t.
I'm a fan but when I feel my frustration mounting with the team I prefer to turn away and periodically check in rather than living and dying with ever pass...like somebody else say earlier.
If yuh don't like the manner and degree of my support you are free to kiss the crack of my ass and keep it moving.
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*steups*
Now self I vex....Donovan run 'rung man like they liming on de pitch.
Nice unselfish play doh.
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any online streams for this game / audio or visual ?
http://www.myp2p.eu/Matches/Match4.htm
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WHY DO OUR PLAYERS STOP RUNNING BACK TO DEFEND ???
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cyah say anything bout dat goal they catch us wit too much up front on de counter attack and our defense was spread thin and wide open
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cyah say anything bout dat goal they catch us wit too much up front on de counter attack and our defense was spread thin and wide open
Shit dat...West Coast said it best, dem man and dem juss keep giving up on ball.
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We looking tired in the back. Men can't chase, and we could only bring on one man. :(
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hm, good goal by the US...for a second there i thought was the azzuri playing
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Two ah we players wasn't sure who should go for de ball when we were in de US half...dat is why dat counter attack happened in de first place
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STEUPS
I tunn on de TV to ketch de game and 30 seconds later, I see T&T get string up
2-0
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http://www.tvtuga.com/ CLICK ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAT SAYS LIVE AND SCROLL TO FIND THE T&T VS USA
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Hey Mr P, yeah dese yung fellas trying day best
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if yuh don't want to see the team play badly, yuh for the wrong team
...btw
Implicit in this statement is that the team is only capable of badly...yuh might want to re-phrase, lol
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Hey Mr P, yeah dese yung fellas trying day best
I eh vex wid dem ... i juss wish I didden turn on de TV .. I feel is my fault a ( i sometimes get superstitious) :-\
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them men was ball watching fuh the second goal
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Hey Mr P, yeah dese yung fellas trying day best
I eh vex wid dem ... i juss wish I didden turn on de TV .. I feel is my fault
is goat mout ya sharing :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Nah nah I ent tink is you
is dat udda fella
JACKULA
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Hey Mr P, yeah dese yung fellas trying day best
I eh vex wid dem ... i juss wish I didden turn on de TV .. I feel is my fault
is goat mout ya sharing :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Nah nah I ent tink is you
is dat udda fella
JACKULA
yuh watching on GolTV?
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Theobald is very dissapointing....what a waste he's been today...
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yes man
i bought it yesterday ;)
0.50 more
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man i watching this game and i havent been in trinidad in years and i dont know de ins and outs of what happened with de federation but i hope de old players and tnt citizens and supporters real mad at what exactly went on
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http://www.tvtuga.com/ CLICK ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAT SAYS LIVE AND SCROLL TO FIND THE T&T VS USA
Thanks
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http://www.tvtuga.com/ CLICK ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAT SAYS LIVE AND SCROLL TO FIND THE T&T VS USA
Thanks
Aye
Welcome
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whats de score
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let me play for the TnT team - give me a chance and I will help them
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how power manage to make this team ???
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fellas, how many minutes left?
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man i watching this game and i havent been in trinidad in years and i dont know de ins and outs of what happened with de federation but i hope de old players and tnt citizens and supporters real mad at what exactly went on
here is a start to get an idea of what goin on
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=24764.msg271021#msg271021
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score????
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Is darryl roberts off the field?
I mean really...Toussaint hadda do everything on his own?
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Theobald is very dissapointing....what a waste he's been today...
nah man, ah certain man go say iz because hardest eh in de middle :devil:
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don't be foolish, you are a supporter and fan, if yuh don't want to see the team play badly, yuh for the wrong team
wha bout if ah doh like some ppl post, ah cyah turn orf the post...and right now ah cyah tun off the ppl either
oan
hope the confidence raise ah lil bit now, at least for the players and in each other
Dude, watch me eh...and ah trying tuh be civil, but from de bottom of my heart haul yuh mudda c**t.
I'm a fan but when I feel my frustration mounting with the team I prefer to turn away and periodically check in rather than living and dying with ever pass...like somebody else say earlier.
If yuh don't like the manner and degree of my support you are free to kiss the crack of my ass and keep it moving.
ok..sorry eh,, didn't realize yuh is dat kinda fan...btw yuh sure yuh know meh mom, to cuss her so bad...Her name is Sylia Goin...I'm Colin..meh fadder dead...who to tell her, cussin her so..an where are you
a) I really couldn't give two facks.
b) Moving on...
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whats de score
2 many to too little
and why BIG men does want to cuss people mudda jez so?
wait maybe is not BIG men doin that ;)
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score????
2-0 bad guys
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The coaching staff needs to lose a couple of these guys contact infomation.
I don't mind being outclassed, but not running hard and showing no heart is unforgivable.
Toussaint making me a lil proud though.
Power, my goodness man
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can anyone get a media player link ah not on mih own computer. Ah in Transit to VA so ah on a borough.
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Is darryl roberts off the field?
I mean really...Toussaint hadda do everything on his own?
I think Roberts tried...Toussaint was a good spark though.
2-0 Americans....in the 72nd....for those who inquired.
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Theobald is we captain dread???......What an embarassment....De man cyar even pass ah ball.....He play in de World Cup? Damn it man...yuh suppose to be the experience man on de pitch....He only running around tryin to feel he is Yorkie!!! Damn Sh!tHong!!!
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can anyone get a media player link ah not on mih own computer. Ah in Transit to VA so ah on a borough.
TTT check here
http://www.tvtuga.com/ CLICK ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAT SAYS LIVE AND SCROLL TO FIND THE T&T VS USA
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can anyone get a media player link ah not on mih own computer. Ah in Transit to VA so ah on a borough.
tony the tiges,yuh wicks boy, yuh feel bill gates on this forum?!
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I did it is for Tvants I have that on my home computer in Germany but can't do it here.
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can anyone get a media player link ah not on mih own computer. Ah in Transit to VA so ah on a borough.
tony the tiges,yuh wicks boy, yuh feel bill gates on this forum?!
We have ppl better dan he here.
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them fellas bun...now the wild tackles going to start
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can anyone get a media player link ah not on mih own computer. Ah in Transit to VA so ah on a borough.
tony the tiges,yuh wicks boy, yuh feel bill gates on this forum?!
We have ppl better dan he here.
who? Bill Gates giving more money to Africa dan all de whole EU <edit> combined. ;D
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
Oh you should be getting ready to watch JA vs.......ahhhh...I just rembered that you guys did not make it..
Guadeloupe has a point. See where I'm going with this. :rotfl:
aye all yuh hear good Jamaica doing in de Gold Cup!!!!!
oh ah fuhgetttttt de aint make de Gold Cup
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Hmmm! It seems T&T will have to defeat Guatemala by 3 clear goals to have a chance of finishing 3rd.
I don't see that happening. 8) 8)
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
Oh you should be getting ready to watch JA vs.......ahhhh...I just rembered that you guys did not make it..
Guadeloupe has a point. See where I'm going with this. :rotfl:
aye all yuh hear good Jamaica doing in de Gold Cup!!!!!
oh ah fuhgetttttt de aint make de Gold Cup
yeah he was saying that we fight dong Jakans for being hammered 6-nil by England ;D ;D :D :D
can you believe that ???
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i find it hard to believe that we cant find a better left back in T&T Seon Power is a rank shit hound!! meh balls have grass stains fuh so.. terrible on the ball cyah make a good pass. cant read the game at all at all!!!
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what a save !!
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what a save !!
looks like he paying for it
Jan doing GREAT in this game
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dis is a team with players from a setta clubs dat the international scene have never heard of.
dey get called up because the best not dere to represent us.
getting vex with dem not going to win de game
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he shouldnt have to make a save, no body tracking Donavan ...defenders tired and ball watching ..steups we real real ordinary!!
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dis is a team with players from a setta clubs dat the international scene have never heard of.
dey get called up because the best not dere to represent us.
getting vex with dem not going to win de game
can I say it now then?
Jack, HAUL ya armen
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two almost goals ..... :'(
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So with the games from the two Digicel tournaments plus the friendlies that this T&T squad play. You mean they are not a team yet? ::) ::)
Oh you should be getting ready to watch JA vs.......ahhhh...I just rembered that you guys did not make it..
Guadeloupe has a point. See where I'm going with this. :rotfl:
aye all yuh hear good Jamaica doing in de Gold Cup!!!!!
oh ah fuhgetttttt de aint make de Gold Cup
yeah he was saying that we fight dong Jakans for being hammered 6-nil by England ;D ;D :D :D
can you believe that ???
Don't be stupid.
I was commenting on the negative replies that Trinis were making during the 6-nil hammering.
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dis is a team with players from a setta clubs dat the international scene have never heard of.
dey get called up because the best not dere to represent us.
getting vex with dem not going to win de game
can I say it now then?
Jack, HAUL ya armen
yes .. say it again
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I doh see much crowd shots at all.
I feel that the President of CONCACAF told the Media to not show the Crowd ;)
Not that I would want to see any banners that anyone would have made for the occasion ;) ;)
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dais it
Final USA 2: T&T:0
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what a save !!
looks like he paying for it
Jan doing GREAT in this game
I duz ride him hard fuh he shit...but yeah, Jan-Michael Williams really show up today, he really made the scoreline a lot more respectable than it should have been.
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Theobald is very dissapointing....what a waste he's been today...
I second that kicker,what ah pile ah shit he played today,he looked so not a soca warrior it eh shame......
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Jack Yuh Mother coon coon thats all i have tuh say again the guys put up ah fight but they fell short again. Love how they work wim did his best so i have no negatives on that peace...................
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Jack Yuh Mother coon coon thats all i have tuh say again the guys put up ah fight but they fell short again. Love how they work wim did his best so i have no negatives on that peace...................
agreed, men bawl all kind of 5-0 woulda be the scoreline. but the boys did ok under the circumstances
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did we have more opprt. this game or last ?
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So the first of my predictions have come true.
The same predictions that were made on the "FAMOUS LAST WORDS" thread.
Well! At least T&T is still "Kings of the Caribbean" :devil: ;D
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ah now see what Wim was torkin bout when he mentioned fitness level......when Donovan collected that ball for the second goal..he blew the mid fielder like a full bus and none of the other defenders were able to adjust to as least delay him...
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So the first of my predictions have come true.
The same predictions that were made on the "FAMOUS LAST WORDS" thread.
Well! At least T&T is still "Kings of the Caribbean" :devil: ;D
Stop watching Trinidad and go watch dem man-face 'woman' allyuh have in Jamaica...and I ent talking about no cross-dressers neither.
Watching Passa Passa is only ugly woman I seeing skinning out in tree...no wonder allyuh Jamaican man rather stand up in circle and dance wid each other in allyuh bashment.
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We A squad would have done much better needless to say. Theobald Ent ready for this level. We should ah send a Inter Col team. The Guats can't wait.
Blow The Whistle!!
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The guys from PFL have nothing to feel shame about...USA have more depth, physically and technically more equipped and playing in higher ranked leagues...I feel no shame in this defeat...We have to organize that defense...This is just a stepping stone...plus if we beat Guatemala we have chance of going through....Go T&T!!!
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I think we need to complain to FSC about their distasteful commentators. One of our players was injured in what looks to be serious and there was no update whatsoever about it. Johnson has a little problem and they all over that. All so they need not have a commentary team which constantly berates the official when it goes against the US, but when the same calls are made to the opponents it is the right one. NO replays on attempts at goals or good saves on anything positive that the other team did.
I am really upset that we did not get any updates on Noriega. I am fuming right now.
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Jack Yuh Mother coon coon thats all i have tuh say again the guys put up ah fight but they fell short again. Love how they work wim did his best so i have no negatives on that peace...................
agreed, men bawl all kind of 5-0 woulda be the scoreline. but the boys did ok under the circumstances
YES...de fellas did way better than I was expecting them to do against the American Juggernaut.
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So the first of my predictions have come true.
The same predictions that were made on the "FAMOUS LAST WORDS" thread.
Well! At least T&T is still "Kings of the Caribbean" :devil: ;D
Stop watching Trinidad and go watch dem man-face 'woman' allyuh have in Jamaica...and I ent talking about no cross-dressers neither.
Watching Passa Passa is only ugly woman I seeing skinning out in tree...no wonder allyuh Jamaican man rather stand up in circle and dance wid each other in allyuh bashment.
Sorry! I have never been to a dance in my life and I'm not a Christian either.
I just LIVE! ;D 8)
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Toussaint has shown that he has the quality to play at a very high level. His awareness is very impressive (did more midfield play than Theobald), plus he has the technique to execute.
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I think we need to complain to FSC about their distasteful commentators. One of our players was injured in what looks to be serious and there was no update whatsoever about it. Johnson has a little problem and they all over that. All so they need not have a commentary team which constantly berates the official when it goes against the US, but when the same calls are made to the opponents it is the right one. NO replays on attempts at goals or good saves on anything positive that the other team did.
I am really upset that we did not get any updates on Noriega. I am fuming right now.
Maybe Tallman, Patiot and Ricky could let us know
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So the first of my predictions have come true.
The same predictions that were made on the "FAMOUS LAST WORDS" thread.
Well! At least T&T is still "Kings of the Caribbean" :devil: ;D
Stop watching Trinidad and go watch dem man-face 'woman' allyuh have in Jamaica...and I ent talking about no cross-dressers neither.
Watching Passa Passa is only ugly woman I seeing skinning out in tree...no wonder allyuh Jamaican man rather stand up in circle and dance wid each other in allyuh bashment.
you had to bring the man family into this hoss? DAMN WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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I think we need to complain to FSC about their distasteful commentators. One of our players was injured in what looks to be serious and there was no update whatsoever about it. Johnson has a little problem and they all over that. All so they need not have a commentary team which constantly berates the official when it goes against the US, but when the same calls are made to the opponents it is the right one. NO replays on attempts at goals or good saves on anything positive that the other team did.
I am really upset that we did not get any updates on Noriega. I am fuming right now.
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Elan boy just start you own Channel and send your own crew. Because Us ent give a rat's rectum about anybody else. And that's not by accident that's regulated proceedure.
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This still wasn't an America A team....so don't get too carried away with the score...the things the coaches in the PFL have to work on is fitness and speed...we have to be able to move that ball around a lot faster ...we looked like we were a day late and a dollar short for a good part of this game
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So the first of my predictions have come true.
The same predictions that were made on the "FAMOUS LAST WORDS" thread.
Well! At least T&T is still "Kings of the Caribbean" :devil: ;D
It doh bother you that you have to come to a Trini Msg board to critisize the Trinidad and Tobago national team at any chance you get?
I cant even feel upset reading your posts...all I feel is pity. Good on you though...you are consistently the most envious poster we have here...I think you've taken the crown from RF and Winipeg Fury. Carry on though...I'm sure others will pay you the attention that you seek.
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So the first of my predictions have come true.
The same predictions that were made on the "FAMOUS LAST WORDS" thread.
Well! At least T&T is still "Kings of the Caribbean" :devil: ;D
It doh bother you that you have to come to a Trini Msg board to critisize the Trinidad and Tobago national team at any chance you get?
I cant even feel upset reading your posts...all I feel is pity. Good on you though...you are consistently the most envious poster we have here...I think you've taken the crown from RF and Winipeg Fury. Carry on though...I'm sure others will pay you the attention that you seek.
RIMSHOT of the highest order ;D ;D
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Toussaint is a boss...simple as that...Given the opportunity he will flourish...Roberts is a nice player but his enthusiam does sometime hinder him...We need a good, fast, solid center back and a general in midfield
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So the first of my predictions have come true.
The same predictions that were made on the "FAMOUS LAST WORDS" thread.
Well! At least T&T is still "Kings of the Caribbean" :devil: ;D
It doh bother you that you have to come to a Trini Msg board to critisize the Trinidad and Tobago national team at any chance you get?
I cant even feel upset reading your posts...all I feel is pity. Good on you though...you are consistently the most envious poster we have here...I think you've taken the crown from RF and Winipeg Fury. Carry on though...I'm sure others will pay you the attention that you seek.
Well said! :beermug: :beermug:
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We bad mouth Wim about The Local League. The Fitness level showed.
On a positive note Williams- Roberts- Toussaint and we can work with / Pacheco/ Noreiga/ Thomas,
Six to add to the blacklisted- seems hopeful. Dont know what to make of Bleeder.
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Well I new to in here so I don't know exactly how allyuh does talk about d team or whateva...but i agree with ponnoxx and what he say.
Anyway...I not one to focus on negatives so as for the positves i think a few players at least doing a decent job of putting themselves into position to earn a foreign contract. I watched both games and I must say Spann and Toussaint doing no harm to themselves...Stock Up like Dow Jones. I real mad that the full team not out there to represent our country but maybe the one good thing in not havin all the top players is these guys have a chance to showcase themselves and well so far these 2 taking the chance. I'm sure alot of ppl will talk about tactics and all that and 'we shoulda do this or that' but that is just my take on things. If at least those 2 players earn deals then when the whole fiasco is over next time the coach have to pick a team he might have 2 more foreign base to call upon. blessed
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This still wasn't an America A team....so don't get too carried away with the score...the things the coaches in the PFL have to work on is fitness and speed...we have to be able to move that ball around a lot faster ...we looked like we were a day late and a dollar short for a good part of this game
MEP hush yuh ass nah boy...Well you go out dey and do it...steups
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I think Toussaint, Roberts and Spann should get some consistent playing time with the A team. By the way didn't it have a guy named keith Toussaint who played for trini once is this kid any relation????
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So the first of my predictions have come true.
The same predictions that were made on the "FAMOUS LAST WORDS" thread.
Well! At least T&T is still "Kings of the Caribbean" :devil: ;D
It doh bother you that you have to come to a Trini Msg board to critisize the Trinidad and Tobago national team at any chance you get?
I cant even feel upset reading your posts...all I feel is pity. Good on you though...you are consistently the most envious poster we have here...I think you've taken the crown from RF and Winipeg Fury. Carry on though...I'm sure others will pay you the attention that you seek.
Actually I just left the RBSC a minute ago after posting on this forum. I go back and forth on both forums. ;D
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We bad mouth Wim about The Local League. The Fitness level showed.
On a positive note Williams- Roberts- Toussaint and we can work with / Pacheco/ Noreiga/ Thomas,/ Spann
Seven to add to the blacklisted- seems hopeful. Dont know what to make of Bleeder.
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I think Toussaint, Roberts and Spann should get some consistent playing time with the A team. By the way didn't it have a guy named keith Toussaint who played for trini once is this kid any relation????
He had a brother in the strike squad camp , I know he train with the senior team but I doh tink he ever play at a time...Dillon Toussaint...Septimus
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Unlike you I eh wearin blinders....and you have to call it like it is...so stop lying to yourself.
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So the first of my predictions have come true.
The same predictions that were made on the "FAMOUS LAST WORDS" thread.
Well! At least T&T is still "Kings of the Caribbean" :devil: ;D
Yard man yuh wasting your time. yuh gloating out of season. come again when we A team get doged, this is we C team and by the looks of it they didn't lose by 6 clear goals against a U.S. A team, the same team that gave the WC champs a run for their money with 9 men. so to me that's a victory in it self. :P :P
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I think we need to complain to FSC about their distasteful commentators. One of our players was injured in what looks to be serious and there was no update whatsoever about it. Johnson has a little problem and they all over that. All so they need not have a commentary team which constantly berates the official when it goes against the US, but when the same calls are made to the opponents it is the right one. NO replays on attempts at goals or good saves on anything positive that the other team did.
I am really upset that we did not get any updates on Noriega. I am fuming right now.
Off-base and incorrect.
Paul Caligiuri, more than any other commentator in football gives the TnT squad it's just due...Dave Nelson also did a very fair job, other than in their questioning of the offsides calls...which went both ways. On the rebound off Spann's 90-minute shot on Keller, they opined that the linesman had erred in calling the follow up play offsides. It's one thing to criticize the bias filming of the game, another to call the commentators distasteful. The Producers have more say, and certainly the Director, in getting sideline reports...to suggest that the commentators are at fault is simply ridiculous. Who knows what information is available on Noriega? My guess is that they took him to the hospital as a precaution owning to the injury being to the head. Anyone who watches American football could right away tell that it was a concussion...they provided the info that they had.
As for the no replays on attempts at goals...maybe because there weren't that many TnT shots on goal? They showed both of Spann's attempts and they praised the ref for handing out warnings to twoTnT players who were guilty of clumsy challenges. In both instances the players should have been booked (and dismissed, since it was a second yellow for each player). Instead they lauded the ref for being fair.
FSC is marketing the game to an American audience...I wouldn't waste no energy getting worked up because they're not showing enough from the other team's perspective.
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So the first of my predictions have come true.
The same predictions that were made on the "FAMOUS LAST WORDS" thread.
Well! At least T&T is still "Kings of the Caribbean" :devil: ;D
Stop watching Trinidad and go watch dem man-face 'woman' allyuh have in Jamaica...and I ent talking about no cross-dressers neither.
Watching Passa Passa is only ugly woman I seeing skinning out in tree...no wonder allyuh Jamaican man rather stand up in circle and dance wid each other in allyuh bashment.
you had to bring the man family into this hoss? DAMN WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I find dat is de best way tuh shut some people up, ah nice hot dose ah reality.
I duz watch Passa Passa and I duz watch National Geographic....sometimes I cyah tell which is which.
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dis is a team with players from a setta clubs dat the international scene have never heard of.
dey get called up because the best not dere to represent us.
getting vex with dem not going to win de game
True words man.
I wasn't vex with de players b/c dey were trying...but whole time I was cussing Jack and the TTFF. The GOL TV pre-show commentary (Paul James esp) criticizing them well and letting international viewers know the situation.
Some may be glad dat we have 2 losses in a row, as it puts pressure on the TTFF to resolve the blacklist situation...
Some also may appreciate de opportunity to see players that should be included in the first-team mix should the blacklist be eradicated: Kerry Baptiste (I am a big fan of him), Spann, Toussaint, Noreiga (I hope he recovers quickly), J. M. Williams.
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T&T's overall game needs to step up a notch in every dept- from technique, to physical & mental fitness, to speed......
In the end, the boys fought hard and were able to keep the scoreline respectable...so cheers to that :beermug:
The linesman helped us out in the first half, and we were lucky to come up against an experimental US team. We grew in confidence toward the end of the first half and actually made a decent run of it for a short spell.....In all I think the guys can walk away from this one with some lessons learnt and continue to build. I was not as furious with this game as I was with the El Salvador game....
For those who bash Wim, based on what I've seen I think he's done a good job at bringing some organization and structure to our approach play given the players and resources..... I think he deserves alot of credit....
What is the latest with Noriega?
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T&T's overall game needs to step up a notch in every dept- from technique, to physical & mental fitness, to speed......
In the end, the boys fought hard and were able to keep the scoreline respectable...so cheers to that :beermug:
The linesman helped us out in the first half, and we were lucky to come up against an experimental US team. We grew in confidence toward the end of the first half and actually made a decent run of it for a short spell.....In all I think the guys can walk away from this one with some lessons learnt and continue to build. I was not as furious with this game as I was with the El Salvador game....
For those who bash Wim, based on what I've seen I think he's done a good job at bringing some organization and structure to our approach play given the players and resources..... I think he deserves alot of credit....
What is the latest with Noriega?
That is what bothers me most now.
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This still wasn't an America A team....so don't get too carried away with the score...the things the coaches in the PFL have to work on is fitness and speed...we have to be able to move that ball around a lot faster ...we looked like we were a day late and a dollar short for a good part of this game
MEP hush yuh ass nah boy...Well you go out dey and do it...steups
MEP has a point though...the lack of fitness was glaring. Americans was running pass defenders like dem Vincies in Morvant running from de police. Players looked slow, consistently out of place and indifferent on several key American runs.
The US were still without many of their key players for most...some for all of the game. But that's not to detract from the play of Spann, Roberts and Toussaint...and from the rest of the team who seemed to eventually settle down.
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T&T's overall game needs to step up a notch in every dept- from technique, to physical & mental fitness, to speed......
In the end, the boys fought hard and were able to keep the scoreline respectable...so cheers to that :beermug:
The linesman helped us out in the first half, and we were lucky to come up against an experimental US team. We grew in confidence toward the end of the first half and actually made a decent run of it for a short spell.....In all I think the guys can walk away from this one with some lessons learnt and continue to build. I was not as furious with this game as I was with the El Salvador game....
For those who bash Wim, based on what I've seen I think he's done a good job at bringing some organization and structure to our approach play given the players and resources..... I think he deserves alot of credit....
What is the latest with Noriega?
That is what bothers me most now.
It looked as though Terrance Babwah went with him to the hospital so if the WN crew in the area can contact him, we may get some information.
From the looks of it, he was put on oxygen immediately indicating that he was not conscious. I hope there was nothing wrong with his neck/spine.
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Quote from: elan on Today at 07:19:36 PM
I think we need to complain to FSC about their distasteful commentators. One of our players was injured in what looks to be serious and there was no update whatsoever about it. Johnson has a little problem and they all over that. All so they need not have a commentary team which constantly berates the official when it goes against the US, but when the same calls are made to the opponents it is the right one. NO replays on attempts at goals or good saves on anything positive that the other team did.
I am really upset that we did not get any updates on Noriega. I am fuming right now.
Off-base and incorrect.
Paul Caligiuri, more than any other commentator in football gives the TnT squad it's just due...Dave Nelson also did a very fair job, other than in their questioning of the offsides calls...which went both ways. On the rebound off Spann's 90-minute shot on Keller, they opined that the linesman had erred in calling the follow up play offsides. It's one thing to criticize the bias filming of the game, another to call the commentators distasteful. The Producers have more say, and certainly the Director, in getting sideline reports...to suggest that the commentators are at fault is simply ridiculous. Who knows what information is available on Noriega? My guess is that they took him to the hospital as a precaution owning to the injury being to the head. Anyone who watches American football could right away tell that it was a concussion...they provided the info that they had.
As for the no replays on attempts at goals...maybe because there weren't that many TnT shots on goal? They showed both of Spann's attempts and they praised the ref for handing out warnings to twoTnT players who were guilty of clumsy challenges. In both instances the players should have been booked (and dismissed, since it was a second yellow for each player). Instead they lauded the ref for being fair.
FSC is marketing the game to an American audience...I wouldn't waste no energy getting worked up because they're not showing enough from the other team's perspective.
YOu cannot be serious.......the only reason they give T&T props cause they was not sure about the outcome of the game. They kept playing up T&T and down playing their team to make the victory look bigger than it really is. The first time we got an offside Caliguiri said it was a good call, but all the offside calls against them was no good. They did not even give Jan his props for coming up big against "the man who created history". Keller made one save and "he can always be counted on to rise to the occasion." B.S my friend.
Even my US friends were sick of the commentary. YOu really cannot be serious.
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Ah just finish watching de game on de Spanish channel, me eh want tuh listen tuh dem other bias and boring English commentary on dem other channels. Ah know meh lil Spanish and de Spanish commentators more hype and in to de game, so I wid dem right true. When ah goal score, well boi, dat commentator does hold dat chord fuh goallllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, may be fuh 1 - 2 minutes. Of course ah disappointed wid dat loss, but by no means upset or embarrassed, cuz fuh de PFL players dey did pretty good, against ah world ranked USA team. When yuh really look at, where we fell short, some players just need some polishing up (we have time fuh de WCQ) and de ones dat are not ready, by de grace of de father de dey will make room fuh de Edwards and who ever world cup players Wim call up. People don't get frustrated, USA won, but dey didn't advantage and embarrassed us, we are on de right track, fit in those WC players wid de youths dat ready, and trust meh, fuh de WCQ, USA, Mexico and de rest ah teams will have ah solid game on dey hands from T&T. Give thanks. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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YOu cannot be serious.......the only reason they give T&T props cause they was not sure about the outcome of the game. They kept playing up T&T and down playing their team to make the victory look bigger than it really is. The first time we got an offside Caliguiri said it was a good call, but all the offside calls against them was no good. They did not even give Jan his props for coming up big against "the man who created history". Keller made one save and "he can always be counted on to rise to the occasion." B.S my friend.
Even my US friends were sick of the commentary. YOu really cannot be serious.
Never mind...I see you juss vex and blowing off steam.
Carry on.
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T&T's overall game needs to step up a notch in every dept- from technique, to physical & mental fitness, to speed......
In the end, the boys fought hard and were able to keep the scoreline respectable...so cheers to that :beermug:
The linesman helped us out in the first half, and we were lucky to come up against an experimental US team. We grew in confidence toward the end of the first half and actually made a decent run of it for a short spell.....In all I think the guys can walk away from this one with some lessons learnt and continue to build. I was not as furious with this game as I was with the El Salvador game....
For those who bash Wim, based on what I've seen I think he's done a good job at bringing some organization and structure to our approach play given the players and resources..... I think he deserves alot of credit....
What is the latest with Noriega?
That is what bothers me most now.
It looked as though Terrance Babwah went with him to the hospital so if the WN crew in the area can contact him, we may get some information.
From the looks of it, he was put on oxygen immediately indicating that he was not conscious. I hope there was nothing wrong with his neck/spine.
not only his neck and spine got twisted while in mid-air...he fell directly on his shoulder with his arm crushed under his upper torso. It didn't look like he was conscious.
Anxiously awaiting updates
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So the first of my predictions have come true.
The same predictions that were made on the "FAMOUS LAST WORDS" thread.
Well! At least T&T is still "Kings of the Caribbean" :devil: ;D
Yard man yuh wasting your time. yuh gloating out of season. come again when we A team get doged, this is we C team and by the looks of it they didn't lose by 6 clear goals against a US A team, the same team that gave the WC champs a run for their money with 9 men. so to me that's a victory in it self. :P :P
A,B,C or D team. It doesn't matter. A few months ago Trinis were posting that the present team is your "B" team and they were ready for the Gold Cup when they were beating all the Caribbean minnows in the Digicel Cup.
Then the FIFA rankings came out and T&T at # 67 are "Kings of the Caribbean" and yet T&T was beaten by 144th ranked El. Salvador that Jamaica's makeshift team would have beaten.
So tell me now. What tournament is this T&T "B" team going to prepare for next after their last game against Guatemala?
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Ah just finish watching de game on de Spanish channel, me eh want tuh listen tuh dem other bias and boring English commentary on dem other channels. Ah know meh lil Spanish and de Spanish commentators more hype and in to de game, so I wid dem right true. When ah goal score, well boi, dat commentator does hold dat chord fuh goallllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, may be fuh 1 - 2 minutes. Of course ah disappointed wid dat loss, but by no means upset or embarrassed, cuz fuh de PFL players did pretty good, against ah world ranked USA team. When yuh really look at, where we fell short, some players just need some polishing up (we have time fuh de WCQ) and de ones dat are not ready, by de grace of de father de dey will make room fuh de Edwards and who ever world cup players Wim call up. People don't get frustrated, USA won, but dey didn't advantage and embarrassed us, we are on de right track, fit in those WC players wid de youths dat ready, and trust meh, fuh de WCQ, USA, Mexico and de rest ah teams will have ah solid game on dey hands from T&T. Give thanks. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Did the biased distasteful Spanish commentators provide any update on Anthony Noriega?
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Or and by the way the majority of the Americans who actually watch soccer will be at the game. The majority of ppl in the US involved with soccer are Youths and they will tell you plain and simple they don't watch the game. Ask hem to name some top internationals they cannot (or very few can). It is us internationals who tune in to look at these games on television.
The commentary team is useless...imagine a player had "a fabulous game." Get real.
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FSC was not in control of the video feed. What you saw on screen had nothing to do with them.
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not only his neck and spine got twisted while in mid-air...he fell directly on his shoulder with his arm crushed under his upper torso. It didn't look like he was conscious.
Anxiously awaiting updates
He slammed his head into the turf when he fell...simple concussion would be my guess.
Easy for me to say though.
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Or and by the way the majority of the Americans who actually watch soccer will be at the game. The majority of ppl in the US involved with soccer are Youths and they will tell you plain and simple they don't watch the game. Ask hem to name some top internationals they cannot (or very few can). It is us internationals who tune in to look at these games on television.
The commentary team is useless...imagine a player had "a fabulous game." Get real.
man you are so wrong about the american soccer fan.......10 years ago you could've made that statement and i would have agreed with you but not now.....
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very poor performance from the "reds". This team cannot compete for the future. The back four is too slow and terrible at defending. The mdifield leaves alot to be desired. If this is the team for the future the prospects doesn't look bright.
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jamaica2099....What does be allyuh problem? Jamaica not even there...Yuh know when allyuh made the World Cup we supported allyuh, now allyuh vex because you couldn't even qualify for Gold Cup....Them same minnows T&T beat keep allyuh out the Gold Cup...Rankings doesn't mean anything because Teams like Ghana were ranked lower just year before so anything could happen with that...Study allyuh get 6 from England who had to cheat to beat us in WC...6 a de finest....Go T&T
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Ah just finish watching de game on de Spanish channel, me eh want tuh listen tuh dem other bias and boring English commentary on dem other channels. Ah know meh lil Spanish and de Spanish commentators more hype and in to de game, so I wid dem right true. When ah goal score, well boi, dat commentator does hold dat chord fuh goallllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, may be fuh 1 - 2 minutes. Of course ah disappointed wid dat loss, but by no means upset or embarrassed, cuz fuh de PFL players did pretty good, against ah world ranked USA team. When yuh really look at, where we fell short, some players just need some polishing up (we have time fuh de WCQ) and de ones dat are not ready, by de grace of de father de dey will make room fuh de Edwards and who ever world cup players Wim call up. People don't get frustrated, USA won, but dey didn't advantage and embarrassed us, we are on de right track, fit in those WC players wid de youths dat ready, and trust meh, fuh de WCQ, USA, Mexico and de rest ah teams will have ah solid game on dey hands from T&T. Give thanks. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Did the biased distasteful Spanish commentators provide any update on Anthony Noriega?
Tuh be honest not even de English commentator cud really give us much. However, dey said dat he is talking (not too much), and was being taken to de emergency room fuh all de different checks tuh be made, tuh make sure there is no internal bleeding etc. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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jamaica2099....What does be allyuh problem? Jamaica not even there...Yuh know when allyuh made the World Cup we supported allyuh, now allyuh vex because you couldn't even qualify for Gold Cup....Them same minnows T&T beat keep allyuh out the Gold Cup...Rankings doesn't mean anything because Teams like Ghana were ranked lower just year before so anything could happen with that...Study allyuh get 6 from England who had to cheat to beat us in WC...6 a de finest....Go T&T
Yeah is so them year man and then is GREEDY FEE ALL all dey care about i deh self.
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Tuh be honest not even de English commentator cud really give us much. However, dey said dat he is talking (not too much), and was being taken to de emergency room fuh all de different checks tuh be made, tuh make sure there is no internal bleeding etc. HIGHLY BLESSED.
good looking out...
Hopefully he'll get back to himself sooner rather than later and be able to rejoin his teammates.
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Wow, differences in opinion are amazing between people watching the same game.
My opinion is that the team put up a very brave fight.
They were outclassed by a better team on the day, no shame in that.
USA has their strongest possible team at their disposal, even if they didnt start Bocanegra and Beasley.
Didnt the Soca Warriors lose both home and away to the USA as well in 2005?
I can remeembr T&T teams with Dwight and Latas and Leonson Lewis being outclassed n a very similar manner on US soil in the past.
Theobald - Something hadda be wrong with me, I fond Bleeder had a decent game. He was the only midfielder who looked capable of competing with the US midfield. He was running all over, calling for the ball, slowing down the game, involving everybody with good passing. What do you want from him? To singlehandedly control the game in the middle versus 3-4 US midfielders who have WC and top international experience?? Or is it that we all just watching his position and trying to imagine Latas or Dwight playing? Give him a chance, rememebr he still like 22 years old, and to me, he is standing out in this competition for us.
Jan Williams had a very good game.
Andrei Pacheco - Again, maybe I am losing it, but in this player, I see perhaps the Carl Hooper of Trinidad's football. It reached a stage where I was hoping they came down the left wing to see how he would cope with the US attacks. He made a couple errors, but there were some plays where he broke up attacks, and also very cleverly got out of tigh situations, whether its little body feints, or slick passes...all looking extremely relaxed (sometimes I was a little nervous). But this yute has potential that I have not seen in a while. He looks the sort of player you can put anywhere.
Span - Wow, he almost totally bamboozle keller with that free kick in the first half. Lord, where did T&T get this kinda player from???? he rivals Me-mum with technique shoting the ball. Outplay wise, he is ok, needs some more work on fitness and confidence too though. Very similar player to Tiger.
Roberts - Had a decent game, really ran and fought.
Toussaint - Showed some flashes, but nothing special. What you would expect from a T&T national striker.
All the other players has average games ie they played to their CURRENT CAPABILITIES.
Thats all we can ask of them T&T.
The team fight in spurts was good to see.
Lets not cloud our logic by our personal feeling to Jack, or blind patriotism, we met a top level team today. they are perhaps the stringest team in CONCACAF. Them held world champs Italy to a draw in Germany 2006.
As much as we dont like to saay it, their players are technically a class better than us, they are faster, they are fitter, they are more competitve.
But they still not firing on all cylinders. I feel we only seeing the US at about 60% now.
A full strength SW team could have actually beaten this US team tonight.
The T&T team tonight played better than 2 days ago.
We actually gave the US defense much more stress than Guatemala.
The dislpay tonight was a typical pre-Leo T&T display, Warriors or not.
Dont be disheartened.
We playing this competition, and I am sure all the other teams and main supporters know we at about down to our 3rd string team.
I dont even know where and why we missing players like Benito, Tinto, Telesford (i think injured), Sealy, Tiger and Joel Bailey are, who were standouts at the Caribbean Cup. Then we missing Hardest.
Also, are we really that lacking for natural wingers in T&T right now after Carlos and Colin Samuel?
If we beat Guatemala next game, we still in with a chance.....
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Wow, differences in opinion are amazing between people watching the same game.
My opinion is that the team put up a very brave fight.
They were outclassed by a better team on the day, no shame in that.
USA has their strongest possible team at their disposal, even if they didnt start Bocanegra and Beasley.
Didnt the Soca Warriors lose both home and away to the USA as well in 2005?
I can remeembr T&T teams with Dwight and Latas and Leonson Lewis being outclassed n a very similar manner on US soil in the past.
Theobald - Something hadda be wrong with me, I fond Bleeder had a decent game. He was the only midfielder who looked capable of competing with the US midfield. He was running all over, calling for the ball, slowing down the game, involving everybody with good passing. What do you want from him? To singlehandedly control the game in the middle versus 3-4 US midfielders who have WC and top international experience?? Or is it that we all just watching his position and trying to imagine Latas or Dwight playing? Give him a chance, rememebr he still like 22 years old, and to me, he is standing out in this competition for us.
Jan Williams had a very good game.
Andrei Pacheco - Again, maybe I am losing it, but in this player, I see perhaps the Carl Hooper of Trinidad's football. It reached a stage where I was hoping they came down the left wing to see how he would cope with the US attacks. He made a couple errors, but there were some plays where he broke up attacks, and also very cleverly got out of tigh situations, whether its little body feints, or slick passes...all looking extremely relaxed (sometimes I was a little nervous). But this yute has potential that I have not seen in a while. He looks the sort of player you can put anywhere.
Span - Wow, he almost totally bamboozle keller with that free kick in the first half. Lord, where did T&T get this kinda player from???? he rivals Me-mum with technique shoting the ball. Outplay wise, he is ok, needs some more work on fitness and confidence too though. Very similar player to Tiger.
Roberts - Had a decent game, really ran and fought.
Toussaint - Showed some flashes, but nothing special. What you would expect from a T&T national striker.
All the other players has average games ie they played to their CURRENT CAPABILITIES.
Thats all we can ask of them T&T.
The team fight in spurts was good to see.
Lets not cloud our logic by our personal feeling to Jack, or blind patriotism, we met a top level team today. they are perhaps the stringest team in CONCACAF. Them held world champs Italy to a draw in Germany 2006.
As much as we dont like to saay it, their players are technically a class better than us, they are faster, they are fitter, they are more competitve.
But they still not firing on all cylinders. I feel we only seeing the US at about 60% now.
A full strength SW team could have actually beaten this US team tonight.
The T&T team tonight played better than 2 days ago.
We actually gave the US defense much more stress than Guatemala.
The dislpay tonight was a typical pre-Leo T&T display, Warriors or not.
Dont be disheartened.
We playing this competition, and I am sure all the other teams and main supporters know we at about down to our 3rd string team.
I dont even know where and why we missing players like Benito, Tinto, Telesford (i think injured), Sealy, Tiger and Joel Bailey are, who were standouts at the Caribbean Cup. Then we missing Hardest.
Also, are we really that lacking for natural wingers in T&T right now after Carlos and Colin Samuel?
If we beat Guatemala next game, we still in with a chance.....
You're absolutely out of mind about bleeder,I too was watching the game and also appreciate varying opinions about the game and the players but respectfully he was the worst of the whole lot today short and simple,here's a small laundry list for you:bad passes,no forward runs up the middle when in posession of the ball,to many back passes,not agressive enough,runs all around the field with no purpose.
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Wow, differences in opinion are amazing between people watching the same game.
My opinion is that the team put up a very brave fight.
They were outclassed by a better team on the day, no shame in that.
USA has their strongest possible team at their disposal, even if they didnt start Bocanegra and Beasley.
Didnt the Soca Warriors lose both home and away to the USA as well in 2005?
I can remeembr T&T teams with Dwight and Latas and Leonson Lewis being outclassed n a very similar manner on US soil in the past.
Theobald - Something hadda be wrong with me, I fond Bleeder had a decent game. He was the only midfielder who looked capable of competing with the US midfield. He was running all over, calling for the ball, slowing down the game, involving everybody with good passing. What do you want from him? To singlehandedly control the game in the middle versus 3-4 US midfielders who have WC and top international experience?? Or is it that we all just watching his position and trying to imagine Latas or Dwight playing? Give him a chance, rememebr he still like 22 years old, and to me, he is standing out in this competition for us.
Jan Williams had a very good game.
Andrei Pacheco - Again, maybe I am losing it, but in this player, I see perhaps the Carl Hooper of Trinidad's football. It reached a stage where I was hoping they came down the left wing to see how he would cope with the US attacks. He made a couple errors, but there were some plays where he broke up attacks, and also very cleverly got out of tigh situations, whether its little body feints, or slick passes...all looking extremely relaxed (sometimes I was a little nervous). But this yute has potential that I have not seen in a while. He looks the sort of player you can put anywhere.
Span - Wow, he almost totally bamboozle keller with that free kick in the first half. Lord, where did T&T get this kinda player from???? he rivals Me-mum with technique shoting the ball. Outplay wise, he is ok, needs some more work on fitness and confidence too though. Very similar player to Tiger.
Roberts - Had a decent game, really ran and fought.
Toussaint - Showed some flashes, but nothing special. What you would expect from a T&T national striker.
All the other players has average games ie they played to their CURRENT CAPABILITIES.
Thats all we can ask of them T&T.
The team fight in spurts was good to see.
Lets not cloud our logic by our personal feeling to Jack, or blind patriotism, we met a top level team today. they are perhaps the stringest team in CONCACAF. Them held world champs Italy to a draw in Germany 2006.
As much as we dont like to saay it, their players are technically a class better than us, they are faster, they are fitter, they are more competitve.
But they still not firing on all cylinders. I feel we only seeing the US at about 60% now.
A full strength SW team could have actually beaten this US team tonight.
The T&T team tonight played better than 2 days ago.
We actually gave the US defense much more stress than Guatemala.
The dislpay tonight was a typical pre-Leo T&T display, Warriors or not.
Dont be disheartened.
We playing this competition, and I am sure all the other teams and main supporters know we at about down to our 3rd string team.
I dont even know where and why we missing players like Benito, Tinto, Telesford (i think injured), Sealy, Tiger and Joel Bailey are, who were standouts at the Caribbean Cup. Then we missing Hardest.
Also, are we really that lacking for natural wingers in T&T right now after Carlos and Colin Samuel?
If we beat Guatemala next game, we still in with a chance.....
Look ting start ;)
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As much as we dont like to saay it, their players are technically a class better than us, they are faster, they are fitter, they are more competitve.
Much of what you say I respectfully disagree with...but none moreso than this.
Unless you mean specifically that the US players are better than this particular team of players.
Even so, I'll concede that they are more fundamentally sound. I don't think the problem is technical skill, more one of experience and confidence.
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What else did we expect? ???
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Listen man i am not one of these trini's who you could riled up with none sense. i love the game of foot ball and i am a strong supporter of the caribbean, i dont get into all that plantocracy and tribalism. when jamaica win i happy for them when cuba win i happy for them too when haiti win i happy for them. for me it's a caribbean and african thing. when england lose i glad, when the U.S. lose i more than glad, same for spain and them south american teams except brasil, only when france lose i vex and can't sleep for days. and another thing the reason i said your timing was bad cause 75% of the members on this board already expect this out come, there were no illussions about the results. you need to save it for when we A team lose , that would be more of a victory for a tribalist such as your self. and yes we have a B team and that's not it.
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From the WN Media Team: Nothing much to report post game, other than Noriega suffered a concussion and is in the hospital undergoing tests. Glasgow had a slight injury from the El Salvador game and will be available for the game against Guatemala.
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Or and by the way the majority of the Americans who actually watch soccer will be at the game. The majority of ppl in the US involved with soccer are Youths and they will tell you plain and simple they don't watch the game. Ask hem to name some top internationals they cannot (or very few can). It is us internationals who tune in to look at these games on television.
I think you'z de only one seriously buying this pack ah ass.
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Thanks 4 the update on Noriega
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Guadeloupe just beat Canada 2-1. What TTTF and Jackass Warner go say now.
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If anybody does use a torrent program and want to download the game it have it here
here (http://www.mininova.org/tor/745113)
or
here (http://torrents.huntparkinsider.com:6969/stats.html?info_hash=bbd193025d6350cfcc09d6e941f2d9a9da936502)
Download it and seed...might encourage men to upload future games involving the team.
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Guadeloupe just beat Canada 2-1. What TTTF and Jackass Warner go say now.
congrats guadeloupe, what else you want them to say. brother these old fellas in trinidadwell bad mind you know, they hate to see young energetic minds do better than them. they rather sabotage the programme than to see somone do much better than them, it'a a dumb egotistical selfish mind set that is prevalant amoungst the elders from our side of the world.
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Well Guatamala beat El Salvador giving them 3 points U.S.A got 6 points if we beat guatamala by say 4 0r 5 goals and U..S.A beat El Salvador we might have a chance of going through i think, correct me if i wrong.
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Noriega's fall reminded me of the collusion Trent Green had when he was in Kanas City - if any of you watch the NFL last season. Hope it is just a concussion and nothing else. The keeper played a boss game and Toussaint played better in the midfield. Everything else is a learning curve.
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i livin in de states almost 20 years now and i could still say baseball is de absolute gayest sport ever, even americans is make fun of how much shit baseball is, and trinidad playing to boot, i doh usually goh after people like dis but come on man......underdogs, jackula shittin up de whole federation, we have some inexperienced fellas out there who tryin there damn hardest and you talking about watching de mets play in a baseball game? wud de ass? ill let somebody else on de board post the pertinent punishment for such ignorance
Wait nah, I juss seeing dis..
"American is make fun of how much shit baseball is".... which Americans, the ones who packing yuh shit fuh yuh out in de boondocks in Kentuck? Me ent here to defend baseball because quite frankly it needs no defense. It's no more gay than cricket.
Yuh talking about "fellas out there who trying there damn hardest" ...fellas like who? De same ones I watching quit when man run past dem? De same ones who acting like they never kick ball before? Because in your eyes they trying hard that mean I cyah criticize dem? You musse paying my facking internet bill...like I really give a mangy rat's ass who like my criticism or not.
Talking about ''punishment" steups.
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Well Guatamala beat El Salvador giving them 3 points U.S.A got 6 points if we beat guatamala by say 4 0r 5 goals and U..S.A beat El Salvador we might have a chance of going through i think, correct me if i wrong.
shorthand fuh all ah dat is that we need prayers :rotfl:
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Not even prayerz could help that team .
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so nobody want to blame span for the 1st goal? syupa you say you was watching the spanish commentary - ent they comment on all the attacks thru we right side? to me span wasn't runnin down no ball nothing really special except corner and free kick. maybe he injured though so I go give him the benefit of the doubt. i jus hope he doh turn out to be anohter dwarika.
fellaz who commentin on how fsc bias, you have the power to not watch. galavision commentors love Jan Michael Williams and Seon PowerS ;) IS like the storeowners spittin on you and ytou still goin and buy from dem.
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I think Roberts tried...Toussaint was a good spark though.
Bake and Shark yuh right. Both players played more inspired in dis game.
Toussaint looking to me like he could play midfield.
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i livin in de states almost 20 years now and i could still say baseball is de absolute gayest sport ever, even americans is make fun of how much shit baseball is, and trinidad playing to boot, i doh usually goh after people like dis but come on man......underdogs, jackula shittin up de whole federation, we have some inexperienced fellas out there who tryin there damn hardest and you talking about watching de mets play in a baseball game? wud de ass? ill let somebody else on de board post the pertinent punishment for such ignorance
Wait nah, I juss seeing dis..
"American is make fun of how much shit baseball is".... which Americans, the ones who packing yuh shit fuh yuh out in de boondocks in Kentuck? Me ent here to defend baseball because quite frankly it needs no defense. It's no more gay than cricket.
Yuh talking about "fellas out there who trying there damn hardest" ...fellas like who? De same ones I watching quit when man run past dem? De same ones who acting like they never kick ball before? Because in your eyes they trying hard that mean I cyah criticize dem? You musse paying my facking internet bill...like I really give a mangy rat's ass who like my criticism or not.
Talking about ''punishment" steups.
Listen boss i ent tryin to fight with you cause it already seem like you just like seeing your own words on this site. I have been all over de US and i hear real people in real states talk shit about baseball, i hear they make fun of baseball on the simpsons the other day with some character was baffled about baseball being americas past time, if that was news to people, it wouldnt have been funny. and just so you know i live in florida i just go to school in kentucky so i only here to get my education cause of scholarships, thanks doh!.
But i also disagree wit your criticsm cause you personally dont know how those fellas fitness affected them and i doubt even more seriosly that you know 100% if they were actually trying or not but i would hate for you to criticize and assume that trinidad players the country you love would just let pick a side of men that would just let men run by them, that would just quit running, a bunch of apathetic no gooders and i hope thats not how you feel about the players. If you know them personally and they went out there to just let people run by them and quit running and act a fool out there, then i apologize in advance.
Baseball is terrible!
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Noriega's fall reminded me of the collusion Trent Green had when he was in Kanas City - if any of you watch the NFL last season. Hope it is just a concussion and nothing else. The keeper played a boss game and Toussaint played better in the midfield. Everything else is a learning curve.
Only difference Noriega dont have a helmet
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Listen boss i ent tryin to fight with you cause it already seem like you just like seeing your own words on this site. I have been all over de US and i hear real people in real states talk shit about baseball, i hear they make fun of baseball on the simpsons the other day with some character was baffled about baseball being americas past time, if that was news to people, it wouldnt have been funny.
These people whose opinion on baseball yuh rating...did you also ask them their opinion of 'soccer' and cricket? Yuh think is everybody will like any ONE sport...especially in a country of over 200 million people? Come with some sense and quit talking out yuh ass nuh man.
and just so you know i live in florida i just go to school in kentucky so i only here to get my education cause of scholarships, thanks doh!.
Happy fuh you and yuh scholarship. Me ent into no games of cyber one upmanship, but when yuh done earn yuh degree and on yuh way tuh earning a professional degree then come talk tuh me.
But i also disagree wit your criticsm cause you personally dont know how those fellas fitness affected them and i doubt even more seriosly that you know 100% if they were actually trying or not but i would hate for you to criticize and assume that trinidad players the country you love would just let pick a side of men that would just let men run by them, that would just quit running, a bunch of apathetic no gooders and i hope thats not how you feel about the players. If you know them personally and they went out there to just let people run by them and quit running and act a fool out there, then i apologize in advance.
Baseball is terrible!
Whether I personally know these fellas or not is immaterial. I don't have to personally know them to praise them and neither do I have to personally know them to criticize them. I dunno if is sleep you sleeping with somebody on de team why you taking my criticism so personally...but I offered no opinion on why man quit running fuh ball. Maybe it was disinterest...maybe fatigue...maybe genuine injury.
If you know them personally, and know that they were definitely trying their hardest, and you think that my criticism would upset them and be a detriment to their delicate psyches...then my apologies in advance.
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First of all i want everyone to know i'm not criticizing any one this is just my opinion.I don't get into discussions with members here because i don't know who i'm talking too plus how much experience individuals have in the game.
Yesterdays T&T game with the USA was the first time i've ever seen this T&T team play,mind you i don't know any of the players just heard/read about them i got my chance yesterday.
All i want to say in a nutshell is "well done guys",not making excuses but all the stupidness that went on before that tournament must affect their performance,players don't need to go through that kind of thing before games.
We have a very good bunch of players,what they are lacking is experience playing at that level,they need to be a little more composed they tend to panic too much,the opening seconds of the game tells me these guys not used to playing with each other,what i like is the spirit in which they played they fought the game through to the end.
If we can improve defensively we got a good team,our defence playing too square and through balls or runs are beating us all the time,when you are up against forwards that fast and don't have defenders that fast playing flat will not work,i feel their is no communication between the Goalkeeper and his defenders,too much mistakes in the back because of no communication.
I don't think the midfield is working as a unit and that's the reason why they ballwatch,they watching each other play and getting caught out of position,you still getting two/three players trying to get the ball from one player and that leaves players open,they are not working on both ends of the field it's either they attack or defend not both,give away ball too easily.
I must say the players that impress me the most on the team was Roberts and Tousaint,i think these guys have places to go,their mentality,skill etc etc is very good.
I think our Football is in good hands and the people directly involved are doing the best they can with what they have,i could just imagine when the impasse is over with the WC players what our team will look like,i'm not worried about results i worry about how we play.
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coops, explain this:
I think our Football is in good hands and the people directly involved are doing the best they can with what they have,i could just imagine when the impasse is over with the WC players what our team will look like,i'm not worried about results i worry about how we play.
I feel we football in shitty hands. We have a TD who hands tied, everyone saying de PFL not up to standards yet who is doing anything to correct it?
we players get $800 US from de federation despite what was promised. the same players get blacklisted, coaches eh getting paid despite de multi millions we get from sponsors, government and FIFA. De TTFF stop all football programs except de U-17 not too long ago becasue dey eh have money, yet dey eh pay de players becasue de money went to fund de WC 2010 effort???? I real confused about dat one.
Den we have clubs struggling to travel to play in tournaments becasue of lack of finances, clubs with such small fan base dat dey struggling tp make ends meet.
Jack and camps MUST GO NOW!
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As much as we dont like to saay it, their players are technically a class better than us, they are faster, they are fitter, they are more competitve.
Much of what you say I respectfully disagree with...but none moreso than this.
Unless you mean specifically that the US players are better than this particular team of players.
Even so, I'll concede that they are more fundamentally sound. I don't think the problem is technical skill, more one of experience and confidence.
They are technically better. I don't think you understand what that means. The fact that they can make more accurate passes consistently, control the ball and distribute better at a higher speed than us...means they are technically better. Technicall superiority has a lot to do with fundamentals. The ability to execute a wider variety of passes and shots with greater consistency and accuracy, as well as implement better ball control under pressure and at speed all spells technical superiority. USA is a technically better side than us..whether that is due to confidence, experience, better training, higher level of competence.... does not matter..they executing the fundamentals better than us. That is not to say we don't have technically gifted players that rival or are better than some of the US players (Spann, or Toussaint are a couple of examples)..But as a team overall, they are ahead of us.
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They are technically better. I don't think you understand what that means. The fact that they can make more accurate passes consistently, control the ball and distribute better at a higher speed than us...means they are technically better. Technicall superiority has a lot to do with fundamentals. The ability to execute a wider variety of passes and shots with greater consistency and accuracy, as well as implement better ball control under pressure and at speed all spells technical superiority. USA is a technically better side than us..whether that is due to confidence, experience, better training, higher level of competence.... does not matter..they executing the fundamentals better than us. That is not to say we don't have technically gifted players that rival or are better than some of the US players (Spann, or Toussaint are a couple of examples)..But as a team overall, they are ahead of us.
Lol,
boss...I appreciate you trying tuh break it down fuh mih eh, but I have firm grasp on the english language, I know what technical superiority means. Technical skill, by way of example:
The proper way to trap a ball.
The proper way to execute a pass.
The proper way to control a ground pass.
The proper way to position yourself between ball and defender.
The proper way for two defenders to triangulate an attacking player.
Fundamentally sound = The knowledge on how to do things correctly.
Technically sound = The ability to execute the fundamentals...not what you know but how you put that knowledge into play.
Not hard and fast definitions...but they may serve to provide a working understanding of the terms.
Are there individual American players with technical superiority over the TnT squad? Of course. Are there TnT players with more glaring technical deficiencies than others? Of course. Are the Americans as a team, more technically sound than the TnT players? Unlikely.
Technically...my personal belief is that the Soca Warriors have as much ability to execute the fundamentals as their American opponents. What is lacking is the experience; the ability to control instinctive tendencies and let training and discipline take over; the ability to shut out panic and execute under pressure; grace and composure under fire.
In case ah loss yuh, or yuh still not with mih either way...you and I study in class whole year. Both ah we do de same homework and getting similar marks whole year. To the casual observer you and I have the same abilities in the classroom. Yet at the end of the year we take exam and you lick mih up...why? Take it ah step higher...adolescents and CXC, some take lessons and routinely do better on average than others who don't. Differing abiliities? Perhaps. More likely... is that some students just don't perform well in examinations...they don't 'test' well. You lick me up come exam time because I doh perform well under test situations. CXC students who take lessons have tons of mock exams to get used to the pressure. Other poor students doh get that and some freeze up when they reach in dat room.
To bring it full circle...it's not that the US players are necessarily more skilled, or technically sound, it's that they have the requisite experience and composure to execute once placed on the field...relative to the young and inexperienced Soca Warriors. So once more I appreciate you trying to make me 'understand'...but my understanding really isn't compromised.
Thanks for playing, parting gifts at the door.
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Bake and Sharke- You not easy. I sincerely concur.
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Listen boss i ent tryin to fight with you cause it already seem like you just like seeing your own words on this site. I have been all over de US and i hear real people in real states talk shit about baseball, i hear they make fun of baseball on the simpsons the other day with some character was baffled about baseball being americas past time, if that was news to people, it wouldnt have been funny.
These people whose opinion on baseball yuh rating...did you also ask them their opinion of 'soccer' and cricket? Yuh think is everybody will like any ONE sport...especially in a country of over 200 million people? Come with some sense and quit talking out yuh ass nuh man.
and just so you know i live in florida i just go to school in kentucky so i only here to get my education cause of scholarships, thanks doh!.
Happy fuh you and yuh scholarship. Me ent into no games of cyber one upmanship, but when yuh done earn yuh degree and on yuh way tuh earning a professional degree then come talk tuh me.
But i also disagree wit your criticsm cause you personally dont know how those fellas fitness affected them and i doubt even more seriosly that you know 100% if they were actually trying or not but i would hate for you to criticize and assume that trinidad players the country you love would just let pick a side of men that would just let men run by them, that would just quit running, a bunch of apathetic no gooders and i hope thats not how you feel about the players. If you know them personally and they went out there to just let people run by them and quit running and act a fool out there, then i apologize in advance.
Baseball is terrible!
Whether I personally know these fellas or not is immaterial. I don't have to personally know them to praise them and neither do I have to personally know them to criticize them. I dunno if is sleep you sleeping with somebody on de team why you taking my criticism so personally...but I offered no opinion on why man quit running fuh ball. Maybe it was disinterest...maybe fatigue...maybe genuine injury.
If you know them personally, and know that they were definitely trying their hardest, and you think that my criticism would upset them and be a detriment to their delicate psyches...then my apologies in advance.
thank you for being more rational and not so critical, i wasnt taking de criticsm personal at all. i just believe if trinidad doing anything that could put us on de map or help us as a nation we should be supportive. i also believe in constructive criticsm theres two sides to every coin but doh come on here and say you embarrased and changing de game to watch de mets game on a trini football forum, wit a set of trinis on here dat jus puttin men in a tizic and as ethnocentric and patriotic as any trini is, men going to take that to heart and if any of them players were posters on de soca warriors website, i guarantee their delicate psyches would have been rattled.
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thank you for being more rational and not so critical,
I was being rational...AND very critical. I think you just missed my sarcasm.
i wasnt taking de criticsm personal at all. i just believe if trinidad doing anything that could put us on de map or help us as a nation we should be supportive.
...and of course dat mean "doh criticize"...GTFOH
i also believe in constructive criticsm theres two sides to every coin but doh come on here and say you embarrased and changing de game to watch de mets game on a trini football forum, wit a set of trinis on here dat jus puttin men in a tizic and as ethnocentric and patriotic as any trini is, men going to take that to heart
Dem men who take dat tuh heart...fack dem and fack de horse dey ride in on too.
and if any of them players were posters on de soca warriors website, i guarantee their delicate psyches would have been rattled.
And if dem delicate pyche, cyah-take-criticism, grown facking ass men getting dey panties bundled up over comments posted by some random dude on ah message board...then maybe professional football ent fuh dem. Maybe they should try golf...or perhaps badminton where comment is usually more muted.
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thank you for being more rational and not so critical,
I was being rational...AND very critical. I think you just missed my sarcasm.
i wasnt taking de criticsm personal at all. i just believe if trinidad doing anything that could put us on de map or help us as a nation we should be supportive.
...and of course dat mean "doh criticize"...GTFOH
i also believe in constructive criticsm theres two sides to every coin but doh come on here and say you embarrased and changing de game to watch de mets game on a trini football forum, wit a set of trinis on here dat jus puttin men in a tizic and as ethnocentric and patriotic as any trini is, men going to take that to heart
Dem men who take dat tuh heart...fack dem and fack de horse dey ride in on too.
and if any of them players were posters on de soca warriors website, i guarantee their delicate psyches would have been rattled.
And if dem delicate pyche, cyah-take-criticism, grown facking ass men getting dey panties bundled up over comments posted by some random dude on ah message board...then maybe professional football ent fuh dem. Maybe they should try golf...or perhaps badminton where comment is usually more muted.
tell dem bake and shark. It have some real clons here who always say doh say dat or doh dat de odder becasue de players reading dis board. As you say if dem psyche so delicate dem better suited to monopoly or tiddley winks oui.
steups.
Let dem bray!
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Technically sound = The ability to execute the fundamentals...not what you know but how you put that knowledge into play.
it's not that the US players are necessarily more skilled, or technically sound, it's that they have the requisite experience and composure to execute once placed on the field...
self-contradiction at it's highest. It is that same requisitie experience and composure that you speak about which gives them the ability to execute.....(which defines "technically sound" according to you)
By your own defintion of technically sound, you have explained why the U.S. team is more technically sound than ours...... in the same vein that you argue that they are not more technically sound than us....... ???
joker....
Our Gold Cup team is technically deficient by global standards and by all definitions....and the U.S. team is technically superior to ours.....they would be on the training ground, and on the field of play....it shouldn't even be up for debate (but for the seemingly football ignorant like yourself)......anyone who knows the game would attest to such....and who doh wanna hear it could block their ears...
Not to mention you contradicted yourself in the post, and hence made very little sense.....
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Lol,
Fundamentally sound = The knowledge on how to do things correctly.
Technically sound = The ability to execute the fundamentals...not what you know but how you put that knowledge into play.
To bring it full circle...it's not that the US players are necessarily more skilled, or technically sound, it's that they have the requisite experience and composure to execute once placed on the field...relative to the young and inexperienced Soca Warriors. So once more I appreciate you trying to make me 'understand'...but my understanding really isn't compromised.
Thanks for playing, parting gifts at the door.
Nice try..but you have just entered the sounding like an idiot territory :devil:
you have completely contradicted yourself..a technically superior player is one that can execute the fundamentals and more, more efficiently, under pressure, at speed to produce the desired result more consistently. It is a product of natural ability as well as practice and experience, fitness and mental capacity. You admit that compared to the US, T&T has neither the experience nor the ability to control their instincts to execute under pressure, at speed etc..in a game situation. Well Einstein..that means they are technically deficient compared to the US. We may assume that fundamentally, the players may be similar or even that T&T players may even be fundamentally better. But on the field, one team demonstrates greater ability to execute more efficiently and consistently and achieve the desired result. According to your definition...htat makes that team technically superior. And that team is the US. Look at the type in bold and console yourself. Yep..you wrote that..all by yourself. Hmmm. It seems that your knowledge was really never compromised...you still have none. I'll still take my parting gifts at the door while yuh scratch yuh head and wonder how yuh could set yourself up so...
joker
you even contradict yourself with your lame examples ;D ;D
catch yuhself :devil:
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I try to refrain from the name-calling, but I see you want to take it there...in your haste to join the conversation sideways, you fail to observe the chronological development of my statement. To wit:
As much as we dont like to saay it, their players are technically a class better than us, they are faster, they are fitter, they are more competitve.
Note the words with the bolded emphasis... these words imply that the American players are generally superior...not that they were superior on that day...but that in general are superior to our players. Hence my response:
Much of what you say I respectfully disagree with...but none moreso than this.
Unless you mean specifically that the US players are better than this particular team of players.
Even so, I'll concede that they are more fundamentally sound. I don't think the problem is technical skill, more one of experience and confidence.
Note well again my statements both above and below.
Technically sound = The ability to execute the fundamentals...not what you know but how you put that knowledge into play.
it's not that the US players are necessarily more skilled, or technically sound, it's that they have the requisite experience and composure to execute once placed on the field...
self-contradiction at it's highest. It is that same requisitie experience and composure that you speak about which gives them the ability to execute.....(which defines "technically sound" according to you)
By your own defintion of technically sound, you have explained why the U.S. team is more technically sound than ours...... in the same vein that you argue that they are not more technically sound than us....... ???
joker....
Our Gold Cup team is technically deficient by global standards and by all definitions....and the U.S. team is technically superior to ours.....they would be on the training ground, and on the field of play....it shouldn't even be up for debate (but for the seemingly football ignorant like yourself)......anyone who knows the game would attest to such....and who doh wanna hear it could block their ears...
Not to mention you contradicted yourself in the post, and hence made very little sense.....
Dumbass...I explained why THIS US team is more technically sound than the TnT Gold Cup squad...which is why I said in my initial statement that I disagree, unless in this specific application. I then said that I still disagree that they are more "technically skilled"... and provided examples Technical skill, by way of example:
The proper way to trap a ball.
The proper way to execute a pass.
The proper way to control a ground pass.
The proper way to position yourself between ball and defender.
The proper way for two defenders to triangulate an attacking player.
. My argument being that the TnT squad is equally adept at these skills, but are less technically sound... there is a difference that you in your pseudo-intellectuality fail to appreciate. I already suspected you of having deficient comprehensive abilities, you've all but confirmed it here.
If you insist on insinuating your ass all up in the conversation you'd do yourself a lot of good to read the entire discussion there by following the logical development of the arguments at work. Now if all that I said is too grand for you to wrap around your tiny brain then maybe it's time you give your fingers a rest and go back to sorting the lint in yuh navel over there in the idiot corner.
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Now for babbling jackass #2
Lol,
Fundamentally sound = The knowledge on how to do things correctly.
Technically sound = The ability to execute the fundamentals...not what you know but how you put that knowledge into play.
To bring it full circle...it's not that the US players are necessarily more skilled, or technically sound, it's that they have the requisite experience and composure to execute once placed on the field...relative to the young and inexperienced Soca Warriors. So once more I appreciate you trying to make me 'understand'...but my understanding really isn't compromised.
Thanks for playing, parting gifts at the door.
Nice try..but you have just entered the sounding like an idiot territory :devil:
you have completely contradicted yourself..a technically superior player is one that can execute the fundamentals and more, more efficiently, under pressure, at speed to produce the desired result more consistently. It is a product of natural ability as well as practice and experience, fitness and mental capacity. You admit that compared to the US, T&T has neither the experience nor the ability to control their instincts to execute under pressure, at speed etc..in a game situation. Well Einstein..that means they are technically deficient compared to the US. We may assume that fundamentally, the players may be similar or even that T&T players may even be fundamentally better. But on the field, one team demonstrates greater ability to execute more efficiently and consistently and achieve the desired result. According to your definition...htat makes that team technically superior. And that team is the US. Look at the type in bold and console yourself. Yep..you wrote that..all by yourself. Hmmm. It seems that your knowledge was really never compromised...you still have none. I'll still take my parting gifts at the door while yuh scratch yuh head and wonder how yuh could set yourself up so...
joker
you even contradict yourself with your lame examples ;D ;D
catch yuhself :devil:
See my response to babbling jackass #1 above.
if yuh still confused let me know so that I can break it down for you like the 5-year old you obviously are.
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coops, explain this:
I think our Football is in good hands and the people directly involved are doing the best they can with what they have,i could just imagine when the impasse is over with the WC players what our team will look like,i'm not worried about results i worry about how we play.
I feel we football in shitty hands. We have a TD who hands tied, everyone saying de PFL not up to standards yet who is doing anything to correct it?
we players get $800 US from de federation despite what was promised. the same players get blacklisted, coaches eh getting paid despite de multi millions we get from sponsors, government and FIFA. De TTFF stop all football programs except de U-17 not too long ago becasue dey eh have money, yet dey eh pay de players becasue de money went to fund de WC 2010 effort???? I real confused about dat one.
Den we have clubs struggling to travel to play in tournaments becasue of lack of finances, clubs with such small fan base dat dey struggling tp make ends meet.
Jack and camps MUST GO NOW!
If you all notice when ever i'm talking i talk Football,i'm not a politician so i don't get into the politics of TTFF etc etc i've had enough, some people on here just like our Footballers they need experience and exposure at the higher level in the game.
Why is it every time we try to talk about Football people have to bring up what JW do,players get blacklisted,players eh get paid and so on and so fourths,we taking Football Breds,i talking about how our players playing,the effort these guys are making,some people on here can't take criticism but always criticizing somebody,some have nothing positive to say about our Football,i don't care what nobody says it must have something positive to say about these guys,some people said they was getting five,every post that come up about T&T Football guys just repeating the same thing over and over,is time everybody on here know what's going on.
I'm so tired of the talk talk talk and no action,i told you all our guys are being set up,they fighting with the wrong person,everybody want to sit down behind a Computer and say what these guys should do,it's not your Bread on the line so it's very easy to say what they should do,three quarters of them struggling to make a descent living but they saying they on strike,you all can't understand they can't win.
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Bake and Shark in his reply to kicker says this....
Dumbass...I explained why THIS US team is more technically sound than the TnT Gold Cup squad...which is why I said in my initial statement that I disagree, unless in this specific application. I then said that I still disagree that they are more "technically skilled"... and provided examples.
.....My argument being that the TnT squad is equally adept at these skills, but are less technically sound... there is a difference that you in your pseudo-intellectuality fail to appreciate. I already suspected you of having deficient comprehensive abilities, you've all but confirmed it here.
Hmmm..Really. Ok..anyway. In his post before that he says:
To bring it full circle...it's not that the US players are necessarily more skilled, or technically sound, it's that they have the requisite experience and composure to execute once placed on the field...relative to the young and inexperienced Soca Warriors.
So they are not more technical sound now? Hmmmm? Hardy har har. Well you'd be surprised that is not the only contradiction in that statement..but the man embarass himself enough already. So I'll only point out that one
Oh...and check this:
Are there individual American players with technical superiority over the TnT squad? Of course. Are there TnT players with more glaring technical deficiencies than others? Of course. Are the Americans as a team, more technically sound than the TnT players? Unlikely.
Hmm..so again. Not more technically sound eh? haha. you really are a clown. I think you need to get some sleep Bake. Yuh really tootooing down yourself. Me and kicker have some pretty straightforward posts. You just contradicting yourself left right and center and making up things to try and win argument. Maybe it is time to stop. You do enough damage to your credibility to seriously have anything left to say..or you could continue to amuse us with another contradictory, change up tune post ;D
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I try to refrain from the name-calling, but I see you want to take it there...in your haste to join the conversation sideways, you fail to observe the chronological development of my statement.
You're arguing for arguing sake. I'm not trying to compete for any correctness prize here- I was just pointing out a serious weakness that was identified in your argument/logic...it's as clear as day that you contradicted yourself, and hence made a very weak point.....I might be a dumbass who is deficient in comprehension- congrats for being so perceptive in pointing that out and so be it...but the fact is your argument in this instance was weak.... so just concede, and say "hard luck"...iz really no scene. You're not the only one on the board who can think & reason...so no need to be pompous.... just chill out and respect other people's intelligence- giving credit where credit is due is not an indictment on your own intellect.
I understand that there is alot of pride taken in being intelligent and making good points & arguments, and based on many of your posts I'm assume you're an intelligent fella, but you failed in this instance and in trying to cover yourself, you're just making yourself look worse...but like I say, iz no scene....
have fun...
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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Responding to both Filho and Kicker
Rather than continue the back and forth, I'll leave it at this. I took issue with the notion that American players in general are technically superior to the players coming out of TnT. I agreed that with respect to Saturday's game, that THAT American team was technically (in every permutation of the word) superior to the TnT squad they competed against. There is and never was any contradiction. I dissented on the general application, assented on the specific.
This ent about winning argument or trading insult, if that were the case then neither of you would likely stand a chance. That's not arrogance talking that's just fact...and anybody who know me would confirm that for you. If you still fail to understand my point then no scenes...
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Responding to both Filho and Kicker
Rather than continue the back and forth, I'll leave it at this. I took issue with the notion that American players in general are technically superior to the players coming out of TnT. I agreed that with respect to Saturday's game, that THAT American team was technically (in every permutation of the word) superior to the TnT squad they competed against. The is and never was any contradiction.
This ent about winning argument or trading insult, if that were the case then neither of you would likely stand a chance. That's not arrogance talking that's just fact...and anybody who know me would confirm that for you. If you still fail to understand my point then no scenes...we can move on now.
:rotfl: wateva man...lay off the steroids, delusional drugs & testosterone supplements brother.......very comical though...cheers to that :beermug:
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:rotfl: wateva man...lay off the steroids, delusional drugs & testosterone supplements brother.......very comical though...cheers to that :beermug:
Your ass must be awfully lonely minus your head...I trying to be civil and let it go but yet you persist. No scenes if you insist on being a glutton for punishment I have some time on my hands...
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If you all notice when ever i'm talking i talk Football,i'm not a politician so i don't get into the politics of TTFF etc etc i've had enough, some people on here just like our Footballers they need experience and exposure at the higher level in the game.
Why is it every time we try to talk about Football people have to bring up what JW do,players get blacklisted,players eh get paid and so on and so fourths,we taking Football Breds,i talking about how our players playing,the effort these guys are making,some people on here can't take criticism but always criticizing somebody,some have nothing positive to say about our Football,i don't care what nobody says it must have something positive to say about these guys,some people said they was getting five,every post that come up about T&T Football guys just repeating the same thing over and over,is time everybody on here know what's going on.
I'm so tired of the talk talk talk and no action,i told you all our guys are being set up,they fighting with the wrong person,everybody want to sit down behind a Computer and say what these guys should do,it's not your Bread on the line so it's very easy to say what they should do,three quarters of them struggling to make a descent living but they saying they on strike,you all can't understand they can't win.
Coop's thanks for your post as I am one of those who make comments about the way players have been treated, so my enquiry is how do you suggest that I should be directing my online energy in a more positive way?
I have not played professional ball in TnT so I do not in any way have any idea how this is affecting any player.
Your suggestions of how I could be a more constructive poster concerning ANY player who is chosen to represent TnT on the pitch, would be most helpful to me.
You have had many years of experience and your help in this matter would do me and as a result others a great service.
Thanks in advance.
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:rotfl: wateva man...lay off the steroids, delusional drugs & testosterone supplements brother.......very comical though...cheers to that :beermug:
Your ass must be awfully lonely minus your head...I trying to be civil and let it go but yet you persist. No scenes if you insist on being a glutton for punishment I have some time on my hands...
calm down...I not on you
You are the one who called me dumbass etc.....not very civil in my books.
glutton for punishment ? :rotfl: Is this how your punish your adversaries..but posting petty insults on a message board.....pff...yeah I feel so punished :-\ ???
Fellas real jokey out here dread.......
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Bake n Shark talkin shit for a while now.
Ppl who are unable to use logic resort to petty namecalling and insults.
I hope he is a youth who doesn't know better.
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:rotfl: wateva man...lay off the steroids, delusional drugs & testosterone supplements brother.......very comical though...cheers to that :beermug:
Your ass must be awfully lonely minus your head...I trying to be civil and let it go but yet you persist. No scenes if you insist on being a glutton for punishment I have some time on my hands...
calm down...I not on you
You are the one who called me dumbass etc.....not very civil in my books.
glutton for punishment ? :rotfl: Is this how your punish your adversaries..but posting petty insults on a message board.....pff...yeah I feel so punished :-\ ???
Fellas real jokey out here dread.......
Fella...go back and read yuh own posts and see from where the discussion devolved, to wit your "joker" and "ignorant" comments.
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Bake n Shark talkin shit for a while now.
Ppl who are unable to use logic resort to petty namecalling and insults.
I hope he is a youth who doesn't know better.
...and what the fack is it to you either way homie? Really.
If you feel so pressed to run in co-signing from the sidelines feel free to put your "logic" into the mix and let's all see what an intellect you are. Or maybe you just feel more at home commenting from the peanut gallery?
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:rotfl: wateva man...lay off the steroids, delusional drugs & testosterone supplements brother.......very comical though...cheers to that :beermug:
Your ass must be awfully lonely minus your head...I trying to be civil and let it go but yet you persist. No scenes if you insist on being a glutton for punishment I have some time on my hands...
calm down...I not on you
You are the one who called me dumbass etc.....not very civil in my books.
glutton for punishment ? :rotfl: Is this how your punish your adversaries..but posting petty insults on a message board.....pff...yeah I feel so punished :-\ ???
Fellas real jokey out here dread.......
Fella...go back and read yuh own posts and see from where the discussion devolved, to wit your "joker" and "ignorant" comments.
ignorant was not meant as an insult..... a criticism ? yes..insult ? no- I meant the literal meaning of the word.....your post made you appear to be somewhat ignorant to the game of football- I take it back if I was mistakened. I'm way over it...
I still stand by the notion that you are a joker (take that to mean whatever you wish)....but it's not a bad thing because the board needs all types. You are the same one who was bumping your gum about people being overly sensitive and people getting their panties in a bundle, and now your thong is all moist when called a silly name....
Anyways, this board is kix....no offense meant, and certain none taken....any picong should be taken for what it's worth....nada.....and if we happen to cross paths at a WN event or otherwise in the real world, iz still beers on me (at least the first round)........ :beermug:
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Responding to both Filho and Kicker
Rather than continue the back and forth, I'll leave it at this. I took issue with the notion that American players in general are technically superior to the players coming out of TnT. I agreed that with respect to Saturday's game, that THAT American team was technically (in every permutation of the word) superior to the TnT squad they competed against. There is and never was any contradiction. I dissented on the general application, assented on the specific.
This ent about winning argument or trading insult, if that were the case then neither of you would likely stand a chance. That's not arrogance talking that's just fact...and anybody who know me would confirm that for you. If you still fail to understand my point then no scenes...
hehe..funny. whatever. now you agree they were technicaly superior to the TnT squad. And that is all I said from the beginning. My post was very simple. The US was technically superior. Exact words I used. So why did you disagree and go on and on if you agree to that simple point. Thanks for finally admitting, in your own indirect way that you were wrong. No need to let your pride get the better of you. Why did you go on trying to contradict my post, only to find yourself here? heheh
As for the rest of your post..it is kinda pathetic in a funny way. How would anyone who knows you confirm your intellectual 'gifts' relative to mine or kicker's or anyone elses when they don't know us. You follow..It's simple logic. You can't compare two things, when you only know one. At least you used the word 'likely'..then used the word 'fact'. Hmmm. Methinks you need some help with your debating skills. Unless you are so delusional to think you are more intelligent than anyone on the board ;D And since you started a long senseless diatribe in response to my simple statement that the US team is technically superior..only to come back and say yes...they are technically superior (after contradicting yourself regarding the meaning of technical superiority....and then failing in an attempt to pretend your were differentiating between being technically skill and technically sound), you have no basis for your arrogance cuz yuh really wet your knickers this rounds. You cannot even revisit what you wrote and admit..yeah..I talk shit..one moment I said this..the other I said the complete opposite. It's there for all to see. So handle yourself brainiac..it was fun. I'm sure all who know you are severely disappointed that their resident Einstein didn't look too sharp...
Thanks for playing..don't have any parting gifts..except the lil knowledge I donate to you for free :beermug:
Oh yeah...Second round on me...
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ignorant was not meant as an insult..... a criticism ? yes..insult ? no- I meant the literal meaning of the word.....your post made you appear to be somewhat ignorant to the game of football- I take it back if I was mistakened. I'm way over it...
By your convoluted logic maybe...
I still stand by the notion that you are a joker (take that to mean whatever you wish)....but it's not a bad thing because the board needs all types. You are the same one who was bumping your gum about people being overly sensitive and people getting their panties in a bundle, and now your thong is all moist when called a silly name....
Not even...I give as good as I take.
Anyways, this board is kix....no offense meant, and certain none taken....any picong should be taken for what it's worth....nada.....and if we happen to cross paths at a WN event or otherwise in the real world, iz still beers on me (at least the first round)........ :beermug:
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No scenes...I go give yuh ah pound same way
...right after ah remove de big stone from de back ah yuh head of course, lol
:beermug:
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Sweet...facking...Mary!
Is where dey duz find allyuh dred??
hehe..funny. whatever. now you agree they were technicaly superior to the TnT squad. And that is all I said from the beginning. My post was very simple. The US was technically superior. Exact words I used. So why did you disagree and go on and on if you agree to that simple point.
Dudette...I never took issue with anything you said. Go back and read...it's really that simple. I disagreed with Trini's statements. You then took it upon yuhself to come say yuh 'educating' me on the meaning of Technical superiority...which is both presumptuous at worst, schupid at best. My position has been consistent from my initial post to Trini...had you taken the time to properly read it you will see there is no difference between what I stated then, to my current position. This is why most ah de times I duz just read this board and shake my head. Man quick tuh rush een and prove deyself brighter dan next man and ent even understanding what de fack it is being argued. Reading truly is fundamental.
Thanks for finally admitting, in your own indirect way that you were wrong. No need to let your pride get the better of you. Why did you go on trying to contradict my post, only to find yourself here? heheh
Again...the only contradiction is in your head. I made it clear from the initial post that I was speaking about the technical abilities of Trini players being on par with US players. AT NO POINT was I arguing that there wasn't a disparity between the two team that played on Saturday. Let me reiterate for clarity, since in your persistent desire to score cyber points, you deliberately and persistently try and conflate my position...
THE STARTING 11 THAT THE US PLAYED WAS TECHNICALLY MORE SOUND THAT THE STARTING 11 THAT TNT PLAYED. Hopefully that part is clear. MY POSITION HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE THAT ON THE WHOLE THE PLAYERS COMING OUT OF TNT HAVE THE SAME TECHNICAL ABILITIES AS AMERICAN PLAYERS.
Hope that's clear enough for you. I hate typing in caps, but times like this it becomes necessary for the blind and intellectually-challenged.
As for the rest of your post..it is kinda pathetic in a funny way. How would anyone who knows you confirm your intellectual 'gifts' relative to mine or kicker's or anyone elses when they don't know us. You follow..It's simple logic. You can't compare two things, when you only know one. At least you used the word 'likely'..then used the word 'fact'. Hmmm. Methinks you need some help with your debating skills. Unless you are so delusional to think you are more intelligent than anyone on the board ;D And since you started a long senseless diatribe in response to my simple statement that the US team is technically superior..only to come back and say yes...they are technically superior (after contradicting yourself regarding the meaning of technical superiority....and then failing in an attempt to pretend your were differentiating between being technically skill and technically sound), you have no basis for your arrogance cuz yuh really wet your knickers this rounds. You cannot even revisit what you wrote and admit..yeah..I talk shit..one moment I said this..the other I said the complete opposite. It's there for all to see. So handle yourself brainiac..it was fun. I'm sure all who know you are severely disappointed that their resident Einstein didn't look too sharp...
First off...the comment about debate and argument was said tongue in cheek and not meant to be taken seriously. That you didn't get my sarcasm is understandable...inbred that you are.
Secondly, at no point did I say that the US are "technically superior". I have been very specific in saying that they are technically sound. The difference as I explained it is that there application of the fundamentals under pressure makes them sound. You don't have to agree with my definition of technically sound, but don't act like the definition wasn't given, then try to misconstrue my position. To say someone is technically superior, implies not just the ability to fall back on training under pressure...but that one is naturally BETTER in skill set.
I will be hard-pressed to EVER say that the US players are better in their overall mastery of football skills relative to the TnT players...as implicit in the term "technically superior". It is for this very reason I took great pains to provide a definition of what I was talking about. That you choose to dismiss it as me trying "to pretend your were differentiating between being technically skill and technically sound" is a product of your own failure to comprehend, as there was no equivocating on my part. My argument, and indeed my words have been consistent throughout.
Thanks for playing..don't have any parting gifts..except the lil knowledge I donate to you for free :beermug:
Oh yeah...Second round on me...
You could save that "knowledge" fuh yuhself pardna...or better yet, return it to the deep recesses of your ass, from whence you clearly derived said knowledge.
...make it ah Shandy btw
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This board does real hurt productivity yes.
Kix
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Bake..I'll def buy a shandy, or two or three. You def sound like an intelligent fella and yuh are rel kix, but yuh ego get the better of yuh htis rounds and this gone on too long. I'll summarize it for you.
I never tried to sound smarter than you..That's your ego speaking. You didn't sound like were making much sense so I expained what I meant by technically superior..to borrow your terms it is having better technical skills and being more technically sound in conjunction..not just the former. And I was only ever talking about the two teams that played on Saturday..I assumed that's all anyone was ever talking about.
You just wrote this: I agreed that with respect to Saturday's game, that THAT American team was technically (in every permutation of the word) superior to the TnT squad they competed against.
Then you write this: Secondly, at no point did I say that the US are "technically superior".
??? ??? ??? errrrr
This is also what you wrote:
I explained why THIS US team is more technically sound than the TnT Gold Cup squad.....
.....My argument being that the TnT squad is equally adept at these skills, but are less technically sound... [/b]
Right after you said this:
To bring it full circle...it's not that the US players are necessarily more skilled, or technically sound, it's that they have the requisite experience and composure to execute once placed on the field...relative to the young and inexperienced Soca Warriors.[/i]
huh..not more technically sound? errr
and this:
Are the Americans as a team, more technically sound than the TnT players? Unlikely.
C'mon man. You still want to argue that you have been consistent all along ;D :devil: :devil: too funny
And learn to take sarcasm yourself. A lot of what I say is just tongue in cheek too. You sure you really could take as good as yuh give?
Heheheh..peace bredda.
marcos..yuh right..this board does kill a man productivity and is real kix
mankind post clear for all to see and he swear he didn't say it ::) Last time I show contradictions in what he wrote he conveniently ignored it. Lewwe see him duck this one too
I good wit' dat
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Well yes...Bake n Shark have ah writing style like ah poster named SUB or SUB1. Total kix yes. If is not de same person this board will be very lively with two ah allyuh.
(Yes Bake n Shark it's a sideways insert without much substance. I know, I know.)
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Bake n Shark talkin shit for a while now.
Ppl who are unable to use logic resort to petty namecalling and insults.
I hope he is a youth who doesn't know better.
in short- joker...
Still in high school mode where to disagree yuh hadda shit up a man.....and then kill 'im dead he's the most civil intellectual...oh well....
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Bake..I'll def buy a shandy, or two or three. You def sound like an intelligent fella and yuh are rel kix, but yuh ego get the better of yuh htis rounds and this gone on too long. I'll summarize it for you.
I never tried to sound smarter than you..That's your ego speaking. You didn't sound like were making much sense so I expained what I meant by technically superior..to borrow your terms it is having better technical skills and being more technically sound in conjunction..not just the former. And I was only ever talking about the two teams that played on Saturday..I assumed that's all anyone was ever talking about.
How is that my 'ego' talking? Because you say so?? lol Why would you feel the need to explain something that was never in question? At no point did I question anything that you said, did I? From jump I was clarifying your own understanding of my position. You say that the americans are superior in both techincal skills, and the application of fundamentals under fire (my definition of being technically sound). That is where we disagree. There...my first actual disagreement with your position.
You just wrote this: I agreed that with respect to Saturday's game, that THAT American team was technically (in every permutation of the word) superior to the TnT squad they competed against.
Then you write this: Secondly, at no point did I say that the US are "technically superior".
??? ??? ??? errrrr
Sweet jeebus...
There are two statements here, the first relates to Gordon Bradleys American squad that played on 6/9/2007. The second statement refers to the American squads that competed up until that date. In sum, the American Mens Football team on the whole...the American football program, if you will.
For example...W Connection recently defeated Chivas in TnT. On THAT given night (for argument's sake) that W Connection team was more technically sound than Chivas. That is different from saying that W Connection in general (not just on that night) is technically superior to Chivas. I refuse to say that about the Americans vis-a-vis their technical superiority to all Trini Men's National Team squads.
This is also what you wrote:
I explained why THIS US team is more technically sound than the TnT Gold Cup squad.....
.....My argument being that the TnT squad is equally adept at these skills, but are less technically sound... [/b]
Right. That specific TnT squad that played on 6/9 was less technically sound, not technically inferior, but less technically sound. And those comments about "less technically sound" apply ONLY to that team...not previous teams with Latas et al.
Right after you said this:
To bring it full circle...it's not that the US players are necessarily more skilled, or technically sound, it's that they have the requisite experience and composure to execute once placed on the field...relative to the young and inexperienced Soca Warriors.[/i]
huh..not more technically sound? errr
It is not NECESSARILY (the case) that the US is more technically sound...but relative to THAT team of young inexperience Soca Warriors....they are.
and this:
Are the Americans as a team, more technically sound than the TnT players? Unlikely.
C'mon man. You still want to argue that you have been consistent all along ;D :devil: :devil: too funny
And learn to take sarcasm yourself. A lot of what I say is just tongue in cheek too. You sure you really could take as good as yuh give?
Heheheh..peace bredda.
marcos..yuh right..this board does kill a man productivity and is real kix
mankind post clear for all to see and he swear he didn't say it ::) Last time I show contradictions in what he wrote he conveniently ignored it. Lewwe see him duck this one too
I good wit' dat
I'm sure yuh going tuh come back with more shit about my ego this and I ducking that...If you still fail to grasp my point now then yuh'll never get it.
Agree to disagree and move on.
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Bake n Shark talkin shit for a while now.
Ppl who are unable to use logic resort to petty namecalling and insults.
I hope he is a youth who doesn't know better.
in short- joker...
Still in high school mode where to disagree yuh hadda shit up a man.....and then kill 'im dead he's the most civil intellectual...oh well....
Lol...
In one hand dis man extending olive branch...in de next he hiding stilletto. Allyuh men good oui boy. Anyways *puts on lawyer cap* let the record reflect that for the most part I was civil until all pretenses of civility was dropped. If yuh walk like ah dumbass, and talk like ah dumbass and Bakes call yuh ah dumbass...dai'z just Bakes calling yuh ah dumbass. Bakes woulda call yuh ah dumbass when he was in HS...and Bakes will still call yuh ah dumbass when he done wid he lawyerin'.
Then drink yuh Shandy same way.
...and Socafan, I've never posted under any other name on this board, in case there remains any doubt :beermug:
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I'm sure yuh going tuh come back with more shit about my ego this and I ducking that...If you still fail to grasp my point now then yuh'll never get it.
Agree to disagree and move on.
I would..except I doh know which point to agree on ;D..are the US more technically sound or not..you said one then the other :devil:
Then you agreed they were technically superior..then said you never once said that..jesus man. yuh making this too easy
oh yeah..and nice duck. still cyah deal with the fact that yuh contradicting yuhself. daiz yuh ego. whoops..am I that predictable? nice nice..yuh call it. why you doh just dissect my previous post and explain how consistent you've been all along? oh yeah..you can't.
let it go nah? yuh keep calling me back and yuh eh saying nutten.
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If you all notice when ever i'm talking i talk Football,i'm not a politician so i don't get into the politics of TTFF etc etc i've had enough, some people on here just like our Footballers they need experience and exposure at the higher level in the game.
Why is it every time we try to talk about Football people have to bring up what JW do,players get blacklisted,players eh get paid and so on and so fourths,we taking Football Breds,i talking about how our players playing,the effort these guys are making,some people on here can't take criticism but always criticizing somebody,some have nothing positive to say about our Football,i don't care what nobody says it must have something positive to say about these guys,some people said they was getting five,every post that come up about T&T Football guys just repeating the same thing over and over,is time everybody on here know what's going on.
I'm so tired of the talk talk talk and no action,i told you all our guys are being set up,they fighting with the wrong person,everybody want to sit down behind a Computer and say what these guys should do,it's not your Bread on the line so it's very easy to say what they should do,three quarters of them struggling to make a descent living but they saying they on strike,you all can't understand they can't win.
Coop's thanks for your post as I am one of those who make comments about the way players have been treated, so my enquiry is how do you suggest that I should be directing my online energy in a more positive way?
I have not played professional ball in TnT so I do not in any way have any idea how this is affecting any player.
Your suggestions of how I could be a more constructive poster concerning ANY player who is chosen to represent TnT on the pitch, would be most helpful to me.
You have had many years of experience and your help in this matter would do me and as a result others a great service.
Thanks in advance.
West Coast i really do appreciate your response,i want you all to know how much i look forward to hearing from you guys after games because i can't attend becuase of my busy ternary out here,it's the only way i can keep abreast of players and what's going on with our Football.
Is just that i find as a past player i know how much it used to hurt when you go out there and put your heart out for your country,the same people you play for are the ones that turn around and kick you when things don't go right.I love criticism but it must be constructive because if players/Coaches don't know or hear what they are doing wrong they can't correct it,but the persistant bashing of our Football/Footballers is not doing us any good,don't matter what even if we win/play well people does still find something negative to say(we play a soft side etc).
My job is teaching this game and i can tell you,there is always something a team does that you can criticize but if you just keep mentioning the faults and not what players are doing well nobody will want to play for you,when i played we did not have the best T&T team but the crowds were still huge,our country loves Football but it's hard to play under the conditions a player has to play under today,the demands are greater.When i came to the US you know what i realize and this is why their Football gone past us,they appreciate their players more than we do,we have to learn to turn pages rate our players as though they are the best in the world,lift them up and stop putting them down,if you are not used to playing at that level it's nerve wrecking and every team you play it's different.
Any how i can talk about this all day but all i'm saying is give the guys a chance don't be too hard on them.
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I'm sure yuh going tuh come back with more shit about my ego this and I ducking that...If you still fail to grasp my point now then yuh'll never get it.
Agree to disagree and move on.
I would..except I doh know which point to agree on ;D..are the US more technically sound or not..you said one then the other :devil:
Then you agreed they were technically superior..then said you never once said that..jesus man. yuh making this too easy
oh yeah..and nice duck. still cyah deal with the fact that yuh contradicting yuhself. daiz yuh ego. whoops..am I that predictable? nice nice..yuh call it. why you doh just dissect my previous post and explain how consistent you've been all along? oh yeah..you can't.
let it go nah? yuh keep calling me back and yuh eh saying nutten.
You could laff and galavant like ah jammette fuh yuh li'l gyurlfriends here all yuh want palos...winning or losing argument on the internet neither makes nor breaks me. If you want to insist that you are right and I'm wrong then feel free, makes me no never mind.
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Despite shutout of T&T, U.S. leaves room for improvement
For the second CONCACAF Gold Cup match in a row, the United States men managed a positive result, defeating Trinidad & Tobago 2-0 this afternoon at The Home Depot Center. However, the game was against what was in essence a semi-professional team and, in a match the Americans dominated from the start, they should have won by much more.
Still, the U.S. clinched advancement to the tournament quarterfinals with Tuesday's final Group B match against El Salvador in Foxborough, Mass., remaining. The U.S. sits atop the group as the only team at 2-0 and needs a draw to clinch first place, though the Americans could even win the group with a loss. "We need a point on Tuesday to win the group and now we have to get that job done." U.S. coach Bob Bradley said.
(continue) (http://www.soccertimes.com/usteams/2007/men/jun09)
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To say that players have technical skills, means that they are technically sound..no difference. Semantics at best!
Secondly, if one implies that players are technically skilled, then one has to see those skills in application...i.e during play.
USA players are technically better than T&T players...Talk done! Has always been the case, except for a few T&T players. But generally, USA is way ahead.
some may argue that fitness plays a great part in this, dat if yuh tired yuh cyar execute well...but overall, the USA has always been able to do those little things that make a great difference.
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I'm sure yuh going tuh come back with more shit about my ego this and I ducking that...If you still fail to grasp my point now then yuh'll never get it.
Agree to disagree and move on.
I would..except I doh know which point to agree on ;D..are the US more technically sound or not..you said one then the other :devil:
Then you agreed they were technically superior..then said you never once said that..jesus man. yuh making this too easy
oh yeah..and nice duck. still cyah deal with the fact that yuh contradicting yuhself. daiz yuh ego. whoops..am I that predictable? nice nice..yuh call it. why you doh just dissect my previous post and explain how consistent you've been all along? oh yeah..you can't.
let it go nah? yuh keep calling me back and yuh eh saying nutten.
You could laff and galavant like ah jammette fuh yuh li'l gyurlfriends here all yuh want palos...winning or losing argument on the internet neither makes nor breaks me. If you want to insist that you are right and I'm wrong then feel free, makes me no never mind.
Palos? ;D Nah..it not like dat. Truthfully..the level of squabbling and name calling on a thread like this kinda stale. You make your points, I make mine. It shouldn't really have nutten to do with who win argument and all that. Healthy exchange of ideas is what it is about. You obviously an intelligent fella with a good sense of humor. You had me really cracking up at times and you had me thinking too. Not just this post but the whole contact sports thread too. Your points are well taken, even if I disagree. Last I check, we all here for the same reasons so big up yourself. Is a shandy yuh say? :beermug: :beermug:
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That was then this is now. What have we learned in our approach to the USA? Are we better prepared to face the USA?